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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:03,120 --> 00:00:05,460 You are listening to the Corbit report. 2 00:00:20,970 --> 00:00:26,520 It took President Bush an extraordinary 441 days after nine 11 to establish 3 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:30,270 a commission to investigate the events of September 11th, 2001. 4 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:33,690 And it was not just the case that Bush was slow in acting. 5 00:00:34,290 --> 00:00:38,220 He actively resisted any investigation for as long as he could. 6 00:00:38,224 --> 00:00:42,720 Taking the extraordinary and unprecedented step of personally asking Senate 7 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:46,530 Majority leader Tom Dashel to limit Congress' investigation into those. 8 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:53,129 In the end, the commission was severely underfunded, severely rushed, and as 9 00:00:53,129 --> 00:00:57,090 commission chairman Thomas Kane later admitted, we think the commission 10 00:00:57,090 --> 00:00:58,440 in many ways was set up to fail. 11 00:00:59,910 --> 00:01:02,940 But the most unmistakable sign that Bush was only interested in 12 00:01:02,940 --> 00:01:06,930 appointing a coverup commission to investigate the largest attack on 13 00:01:06,930 --> 00:01:10,980 US soil in modern history was his initial choice for commission Chairman. 14 00:01:12,750 --> 00:01:15,539 Today I'm pleased to announce my choice for commission Chairman. 15 00:01:16,725 --> 00:01:17,054 Dr. 16 00:01:17,054 --> 00:01:17,835 Henry Kissinger. 17 00:01:19,145 --> 00:01:19,495 Dr. 18 00:01:19,495 --> 00:01:23,595 Kissinger, do you have any concerns about once commission begins its work? 19 00:01:23,595 --> 00:01:27,525 If fingers point to valuable allies, say Saudi Arabia, for example? 20 00:01:27,795 --> 00:01:30,675 Um, the implications of policy implications this could have to 21 00:01:30,675 --> 00:01:32,835 the United States, particularly at this delicate time. 22 00:01:33,555 --> 00:01:41,745 Uh, I have been given every assurance, uh, by the president that we should, uh, 23 00:01:42,134 --> 00:01:44,595 that we should go where the facts leaders. 24 00:01:46,530 --> 00:01:49,950 Not even the New York Times could believe that Henry Kissinger, the 25 00:01:49,950 --> 00:01:54,270 consummate Washington Insider, could pretend to conduct an independent fact 26 00:01:54,270 --> 00:01:56,220 finding investigation into nine 11. 27 00:01:57,270 --> 00:01:59,520 It is tempting to wonder if the choice of Mr. 28 00:01:59,525 --> 00:02:03,690 Kissinger is not a clever maneuver by the White House to contain an investigation 29 00:02:03,900 --> 00:02:06,810 at long opposed the time editorialized. 30 00:02:06,810 --> 00:02:10,829 After the announcement, Kissinger may have been prepared for such 31 00:02:10,829 --> 00:02:12,630 polite disagreement with his appoint. 32 00:02:13,545 --> 00:02:17,174 But he was not prepared to meet the nine 11 widows whose tireless 33 00:02:17,174 --> 00:02:20,204 efforts had forced the creation of the commission in the first place. 34 00:02:21,105 --> 00:02:24,225 Several family members approached Kissinger and requested a meeting 35 00:02:24,225 --> 00:02:25,545 at his office in New York. 36 00:02:25,905 --> 00:02:28,965 Prior to the meeting, Kristin Bright Weiser conducted a thorough 37 00:02:28,965 --> 00:02:32,505 investigation of Kissinger's potential conflicts of interest. 38 00:02:33,805 --> 00:02:36,075 Probably much to the chagrin of some of the people in the room. 39 00:02:36,495 --> 00:02:40,095 Lori asked some very pointed questions. 40 00:02:40,395 --> 00:02:46,125 Would you have any Saudi American clients that you would like to tell us about? 41 00:02:46,875 --> 00:02:51,525 And he was very uncomfortable kind of twisting and turning on the couch. 42 00:02:52,065 --> 00:02:56,595 And then she asked whether he had any clients by the name of Bin Laden 43 00:02:57,975 --> 00:03:01,335 and he just about fell off his couch. 44 00:03:01,829 --> 00:03:05,790 Former Secretary of State Henry Kissinger stepped down from the position Friday. 45 00:03:06,750 --> 00:03:07,920 We thought the meeting went well. 46 00:03:09,750 --> 00:03:12,720 Kissinger was dethroned, and the commission went ahead under Chairman 47 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:14,910 Thomas Cain and Vice Chair Lee Hamilton. 48 00:03:15,750 --> 00:03:18,450 But while Kissinger's appointment and resignation received all the 49 00:03:18,450 --> 00:03:21,750 attention, the White House was busy slipping another agent into 50 00:03:21,750 --> 00:03:23,290 the commission through the back. 51 00:03:24,644 --> 00:03:29,265 In January of 2003, just weeks after Kissinger stepped down, it was 52 00:03:29,265 --> 00:03:33,105 quietly announced that Phillip d Zeka would take on the role of executive 53 00:03:33,105 --> 00:03:35,765 director as executive director. 54 00:03:36,045 --> 00:03:40,365 Zeka picked the areas of investigation, the briefing materials, the topics 55 00:03:40,370 --> 00:03:44,265 for hearings, the witnesses, and the lines of questioning for witnesses. 56 00:03:44,954 --> 00:03:49,365 In effect, this was the man in charge of running the investigation itself. 57 00:03:50,445 --> 00:03:52,275 So who was Phillip Zel? 58 00:03:53,250 --> 00:03:57,000 The commission's press release announcing his position described him as a man 59 00:03:57,000 --> 00:04:00,780 of high stature, who has distinguished himself as an academician lawyer, 60 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:05,160 author, and public servant, although they noted his position at the University 61 00:04:05,165 --> 00:04:08,790 of Virginia and his previous role as executive director for the National 62 00:04:08,790 --> 00:04:10,470 Commission on Federal Electoral Reform. 63 00:04:11,415 --> 00:04:15,405 Curiously missing from this brief bio are the multiple conflicts of interest 64 00:04:15,525 --> 00:04:19,214 that show how the Bush administration essentially put one of its own in 65 00:04:19,214 --> 00:04:23,595 charge of investigating how the Bush administration failed on nine 11. 66 00:04:24,885 --> 00:04:29,385 In 1995, Zeik how co-authored a book with Bush's National Security 67 00:04:29,385 --> 00:04:31,145 advisor, condo Aliza Rice. 68 00:04:31,935 --> 00:04:35,415 He was part of the transition team that helped the Bush administration take over 69 00:04:35,415 --> 00:04:37,035 the White House from the Clinton Adminis. 70 00:04:37,950 --> 00:04:42,180 . He was even a member of Bush's post nine 11 Foreign Intelligence Advisory 71 00:04:42,180 --> 00:04:47,160 Board, but perhaps most incredibly Zelikow actually authored the Bush 72 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:52,260 Administration's 2002 national security strategy that outlined the preemptive war 73 00:04:52,260 --> 00:04:54,510 doctrine that would be used against Iraq. 74 00:04:55,260 --> 00:04:58,470 This, however, is something that not even nine 11 Commissioners 75 00:04:58,470 --> 00:05:01,860 Kane or Hamilton themselves knew at the time the commission was. 76 00:05:03,915 --> 00:05:07,935 Zel was the author of a very important document issued by the White House 77 00:05:07,935 --> 00:05:12,915 in September, 2002 that really turned military doctrine on its head and said 78 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:16,515 that the United States could become involved in preemptive war preemptive 79 00:05:16,515 --> 00:05:20,115 defense, that we could attack a nation that didn't pose an immediate 80 00:05:20,115 --> 00:05:21,585 military threat to this country. 81 00:05:21,675 --> 00:05:24,885 And obviously in September, 2002, it sure appeared that that document was 82 00:05:24,885 --> 00:05:26,805 being written with one target in mind. 83 00:05:26,805 --> 00:05:27,405 Iraq. 84 00:05:28,125 --> 00:05:33,555 Um, Now, as I say, the, the altar of the document at the time was anonymous. 85 00:05:33,555 --> 00:05:36,045 We didn't know that Phillip Zco had written this thing. 86 00:05:36,435 --> 00:05:39,495 Uh, and that becomes known, I think, widely on the staff, only in the 87 00:05:39,500 --> 00:05:43,515 final months of the nine 11 commission investigation, and it appeared to pose 88 00:05:43,605 --> 00:05:45,675 yet another conflict of interest for Zco. 89 00:05:45,975 --> 00:05:49,605 Uh, just to be clear, the, the preemptive, uh, doctrine memo 90 00:05:49,605 --> 00:05:51,645 comes out in September of 2002. 91 00:05:51,675 --> 00:05:55,065 The commission is created formally in, uh, December, 2002. 92 00:05:55,615 --> 00:05:59,545 Duque and Hamilton, when they hire Zel Laco, are they aware of his, uh, 93 00:05:59,815 --> 00:06:02,575 are they aware of his role as the author of the preemptive doctrine? 94 00:06:02,725 --> 00:06:03,415 I don't believe so. 95 00:06:05,155 --> 00:06:08,215 These conflicts of interest were not merely theoretical. 96 00:06:09,025 --> 00:06:11,995 After the victim's family members discovered Zel Cow's links to 97 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:15,175 the Bush administration, he was forced to recuse himself from the 98 00:06:15,175 --> 00:06:18,505 proceedings of the commission, which he himself was directing. 99 00:06:18,835 --> 00:06:22,255 That had to do with the Bush White House transition or the national security. 100 00:06:23,909 --> 00:06:25,500 Hearing of Ze Cow's appointment. 101 00:06:25,830 --> 00:06:29,400 Former counterterrorism are Richard Clark, who Zeka helped to 102 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:30,990 demote during the Bush transition. 103 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:35,010 Remarked that the fixes in wondering allowed, could anyone 104 00:06:35,010 --> 00:06:39,960 have a more obvious conflict of interest than Zeca key staffers? 105 00:06:39,990 --> 00:06:42,390 And even one of the commissioners threatened to quit the 106 00:06:42,390 --> 00:06:45,210 commission altogether when learning of Zel cow's history. 107 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:49,109 When the nine 11 victims' family members discovered Zel Cow's 108 00:06:49,109 --> 00:06:50,909 links, they protested his appoint. 109 00:06:51,615 --> 00:06:55,965 But unlike with Kissinger this time, their concerns were dismissed and Zeca 110 00:06:55,969 --> 00:07:02,055 plowed ahead as even Zeka himself admits his ties to the very figures he was 111 00:07:02,485 --> 00:07:07,185 supposedly investigating are a legitimate concern, and any real investigation of 112 00:07:07,185 --> 00:07:09,015 the nine 11 coverup would begin with him. 113 00:07:10,875 --> 00:07:15,315 There is a, a whole welter of conspiracy theories about nine 11 floating around 114 00:07:15,315 --> 00:07:17,534 the internet in video cassettes. 115 00:07:17,534 --> 00:07:22,395 And there's a whole cottage industry in this, um, which if you haven't read 116 00:07:22,395 --> 00:07:26,594 much about it and you're a fortunate person, um, I, I get a lot of this. 117 00:07:27,135 --> 00:07:28,695 I'm actually, I actually figure very largely. 118 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:31,260 And a number of the key conspiracy theories. 119 00:07:34,740 --> 00:07:34,950 No. 120 00:07:34,950 --> 00:07:38,520 Cause no, but be fair, I worked with Condi Rice, right? 121 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:41,520 I worked with her in, in the administration of Bush 41. 122 00:07:42,300 --> 00:07:46,050 Uh, so, you know, I could be, uh, I could be read as the plausible 123 00:07:46,055 --> 00:07:47,670 henchman executing the coverup. 124 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:48,930 Uh, no. 125 00:07:48,930 --> 00:07:53,220 About, uh, and it's a, it's, it's a, it's a legitimate concern, especially 126 00:07:53,220 --> 00:07:56,430 if I hadn't had 81 other staffers keeping their eagle eye on me. 127 00:07:59,070 --> 00:08:02,880 Conveniently left out a ze cow's story about the 81 staffers. 128 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:06,690 Keeping their eye on his decisions is that they were staffers who were hired 129 00:08:06,690 --> 00:08:09,330 by him and under his complete control. 130 00:08:10,140 --> 00:08:14,580 In fact, Zelikow took over the hiring of the commission staff and even stopped 131 00:08:14,580 --> 00:08:17,970 staffers from communicating directly with the commissioners themselves. 132 00:08:19,005 --> 00:08:22,724 In the first few months, the nine 11 commissioners themselves rarely even 133 00:08:22,724 --> 00:08:26,685 visited the commission because Zeca denied them their own offices or the 134 00:08:26,685 --> 00:08:28,604 ability to hire their own staffers. 135 00:08:29,685 --> 00:08:33,900 The most remarkable example of ze cow's dictatorial control came in March, 136 00:08:33,900 --> 00:08:38,385 2003, just three months after the commission's 16 month investigation began. 137 00:08:39,194 --> 00:08:42,674 It was at that time before the commission had even convened a single 138 00:08:42,674 --> 00:08:46,905 hearing that zeka, along with longtime associate and commission consultant, 139 00:08:46,905 --> 00:08:54,360 Ernest, Co-wrote a complete outline of the final report before the, before 140 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:56,580 the staff even had its first meeting. 141 00:08:57,000 --> 00:09:03,270 The Laka had written along with his former professor, Ernest May, a detailed 142 00:09:03,270 --> 00:09:06,630 outline of the commission's report He. 143 00:09:08,025 --> 00:09:11,805 complete as Shean put it with chapter headings, subheadings, 144 00:09:11,955 --> 00:09:13,695 and sub subheadings. 145 00:09:14,505 --> 00:09:18,705 When Kaan Hamilton were later shown this outline, they worried that it would 146 00:09:18,705 --> 00:09:24,555 be seen as evidence that the report's outcome had been predetermined . So 147 00:09:24,555 --> 00:09:28,215 the three of them decided to keep it a secret from the rest of the staff. 148 00:09:29,685 --> 00:09:34,125 When the staff did finally learn about this outline, a year later, they were. 149 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:39,780 Some of them circulated, a parody entitled the Warren Commission 150 00:09:39,780 --> 00:09:41,939 Report, preemptive outline. 151 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:45,480 , one of his chapter headings. 152 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:47,189 Read Single bullet. 153 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:51,480 We haven't seen the evidence yet, but really we're sure. 154 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:56,880 The implication was that the crucial chapter in the Zeka may 155 00:09:56,939 --> 00:09:58,829 outline could have been headed. 156 00:09:59,530 --> 00:10:01,589 Osama Bin Laden and Al-Qaeda. 157 00:10:01,829 --> 00:10:05,610 We haven't seen the evidence yet, but really we're sure. 158 00:10:07,829 --> 00:10:11,430 So what exactly did Zeka do as executive director? 159 00:10:12,420 --> 00:10:15,390 He allowed information in the commission's final report derived 160 00:10:15,390 --> 00:10:19,680 from illegal CIA a torture sessions, despite not having access to the 161 00:10:20,130 --> 00:10:23,730 evidence of those sessions themselves, which were later illegally destroyed. 162 00:10:24,420 --> 00:10:28,200 This included the testimony of alleged in nine 11 Mastermind Khalid Sheik 163 00:10:28,205 --> 00:10:33,090 Mohammed, who was water boarded 183 times in a single month, whose 164 00:10:33,090 --> 00:10:36,900 children were kidnapped by the cia, who was told that his children were 165 00:10:36,900 --> 00:10:38,790 going to be tortured with insect. 166 00:10:39,195 --> 00:10:42,855 And who eventually confessed to a whole series of plots, including 167 00:10:42,860 --> 00:10:46,555 bombing a bank that didn't exist at the time he was arrested. 168 00:10:47,565 --> 00:10:51,135 More than one quarter of the footnotes in the final commission report sourced 169 00:10:51,135 --> 00:10:55,785 from this torture testimony and a zeka himself admitted quite a bit. 170 00:10:55,845 --> 00:10:58,875 If not most of the commission's information on the nine 11 171 00:10:58,875 --> 00:11:01,225 plot itself came from this t. 172 00:11:02,925 --> 00:11:06,675 Zko denied interviews and documents to staffers investigating the 173 00:11:06,675 --> 00:11:09,915 Saudi connection to the attacks, eventually firing one of them 174 00:11:09,975 --> 00:11:13,245 and removing the text of their investigation from the final report. 175 00:11:14,445 --> 00:11:18,915 He personally rewrote a commission staff statement to suggest a systematic link 176 00:11:18,915 --> 00:11:23,855 between Al-Qaeda and Iraq before nine 11 Outraging, the authors of the original. 177 00:11:25,500 --> 00:11:29,400 He worked behind his own staffer's back to stop them from serving the Pentagon. 178 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:33,449 A subpoena to answer about information NORAD was withholding from the commission. 179 00:11:34,470 --> 00:11:38,910 He sat on a proposal to open a criminal investigation into F a a and military 180 00:11:38,915 --> 00:11:42,480 officials who lied to the commission for months and then forwarded that 181 00:11:42,510 --> 00:11:46,410 proposal not to the Justice Department who could have brought criminal charges, 182 00:11:46,650 --> 00:11:48,480 but to the Inspector General who could. 183 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:53,969 And he covered up information on Able Danger, a military intelligence 184 00:11:53,969 --> 00:11:57,239 team that had identified several of the alleged nine 11 hijackers 185 00:11:57,245 --> 00:11:59,010 in the country before nine 11. 186 00:12:00,089 --> 00:12:01,739 After the initial disclosure, Dr. 187 00:12:01,739 --> 00:12:04,290 Zeka came to me at the end of the meeting, gave me his card and said, what you 188 00:12:04,290 --> 00:12:06,239 said today is is critically important. 189 00:12:06,239 --> 00:12:06,489 Very important. 190 00:12:07,229 --> 00:12:10,050 Please come see me when we return to Washington dc. 191 00:12:10,410 --> 00:12:13,290 I returned to Washington DC January of 2004. 192 00:12:13,829 --> 00:12:14,489 Call in. 193 00:12:14,550 --> 00:12:16,260 They say, we want to see you standby. 194 00:12:16,439 --> 00:12:17,069 Nothing happens. 195 00:12:17,074 --> 00:12:18,510 A week goes by, I call again, they. 196 00:12:19,845 --> 00:12:20,805 We don't need you to come in. 197 00:12:20,805 --> 00:12:23,444 We, we have all the information on Able danger we need. 198 00:12:23,595 --> 00:12:23,955 Thank you. 199 00:12:23,955 --> 00:12:25,395 Anyway, and that was the, where it ended. 200 00:12:25,545 --> 00:12:25,814 All right. 201 00:12:25,814 --> 00:12:27,795 So the information that you told Dr. 202 00:12:27,795 --> 00:12:32,325 Zeka in Afghanistan about the CIA interfering with your ability to 203 00:12:32,325 --> 00:12:36,015 provide actionable intelligence to the United States government intelligence 204 00:12:36,020 --> 00:12:39,255 that might have helped them find out who caused uh, nine 11, you 205 00:12:39,255 --> 00:12:40,905 were not permitted to testify about. 206 00:12:40,905 --> 00:12:41,444 That's correct. 207 00:12:43,740 --> 00:12:47,880 From the initial outline to the final report, Zeik how carefully guided the 208 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:52,949 process hiring and firing the staff, directing their research efforts, deciding 209 00:12:52,949 --> 00:12:57,120 on witnesses, scrubbing information, and shielding his former colleagues in the 210 00:12:57,125 --> 00:13:01,650 White House from criticism, but perhaps more remarkable than the fact that the 211 00:13:01,650 --> 00:13:05,010 fix was in from the moment he took over the commission and began working on 212 00:13:05,010 --> 00:13:06,870 the predictive outline of the final. 213 00:13:07,740 --> 00:13:13,860 Is that he had in fact written about nine 11 and its eventual aftermath in 19 98, 3 214 00:13:13,860 --> 00:13:20,819 years before September 11th in an article entitled Catastrophic Terrorism Tackling 215 00:13:20,819 --> 00:13:24,420 The New Danger Written for the Council on Foreign Relations Foreign Affairs in 216 00:13:24,420 --> 00:13:30,180 November, 1998, Ze Cowen co-authors Ashton Carter and John Deutch ask readers to 217 00:13:30,329 --> 00:13:34,770 imagine a catastrophic act of terrorism, like the destruction of the world trade. 218 00:13:36,060 --> 00:13:37,170 like Pearl Harbor. 219 00:13:37,500 --> 00:13:42,390 The event would divide our past and future into a before and after the United States 220 00:13:42,390 --> 00:13:44,220 might respond with draconian measures. 221 00:13:44,220 --> 00:13:48,990 Scaling back civil liberties, allowing wider surveillance of citizens, detention 222 00:13:48,990 --> 00:13:51,360 of suspects, and use of deadly force. 223 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:57,060 More violence could follow either future terrorist attacks or US counter attacks. 224 00:13:58,020 --> 00:14:00,900 Belatedly Americans would judge their leaders negligent 225 00:14:01,050 --> 00:14:02,580 for not addressing terrorism. 226 00:14:02,700 --> 00:14:03,480 More urgent. 227 00:14:05,685 --> 00:14:09,704 How's amazing prediction becomes somewhat less remarkable when we learned his 228 00:14:09,704 --> 00:14:14,444 own self-described expertise in the creation and management of public myth. 229 00:14:15,255 --> 00:14:21,194 In a separate 1998 article on Public Myths, Zeik, how identifies generational 230 00:14:21,194 --> 00:14:25,275 myths that are formed by those pivotal events that become etched in the minds of 231 00:14:25,275 --> 00:14:27,344 those who have lived through them before. 232 00:14:27,344 --> 00:14:30,285 Noting that the current set of public myths formed during the 233 00:14:30,285 --> 00:14:33,045 New Deal in 1933 are currently fa. 234 00:14:34,575 --> 00:14:38,985 Convenient for Zika then that the Pearl Harbor event that would define the next 235 00:14:39,045 --> 00:14:43,635 generational myth known as the War on Terror, would arrive just three years 236 00:14:43,635 --> 00:14:48,285 later and that he would be in charge of the commission tasked with creating and 237 00:14:48,285 --> 00:14:53,775 managing the public perception of that myth indeed given his central role in 238 00:14:53,775 --> 00:14:57,795 the coverup of nine 11 and deflecting concern away from legitimate nine 11. 239 00:14:59,025 --> 00:15:03,375 Any true investigation into the events of September 11th would involve a 240 00:15:03,375 --> 00:15:07,245 thorough interrogation of Phillip Dzik? 241 00:15:09,235 --> 00:15:09,585 No. 242 00:15:09,590 --> 00:15:12,975 Cause no, but be fair, I worked with Condi Rice, right? 243 00:15:13,245 --> 00:15:15,735 I worked with her in, in the administration of Bush 41. 244 00:15:16,675 --> 00:15:20,505 Uh, so, you know, I could be, uh, I could be read as the plausible 245 00:15:20,505 --> 00:15:22,125 henchman executing the coverup. 246 00:15:22,795 --> 00:15:23,585 Uh, no. 247 00:15:23,585 --> 00:15:27,045 But, uh, and it's a, it's, it's a, it's a legitimate concern. 248 00:15:31,155 --> 00:15:33,585 Everything we're getting back from the sampling that we're 249 00:15:33,585 --> 00:15:35,745 doing is below background levels. 250 00:15:36,915 --> 00:15:41,175 I can tell you that there was no credible intelligence at that time. 23120

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