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- [Narrator] We view growth
as something positive.
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It's great watching our kids
grow up or seeing a tree grow.
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Yet we are always aware that
all growth must come to an end.
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There's a limit.
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Nature knows no such
thing as infinite growth.
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This rule seems to apply to
every kind of growth but one.
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Economic growth is somehow
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supposed to continue indefinitely.
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- We believed then and
now there are no limits
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to growth and human progress when men
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and women are free to follow their dreams.
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And we were right.
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- [Narrator] If that growth
fails to materialize, we panic.
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But why?
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As one person recognized
150 years ago, growth is
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the fundamental principle
of our economic system.
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Capitalism only works
when the economy grows.
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But Karl Marx recognized
something else as well.
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It is this growth that will eventually
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destroy the system itself.
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And today, have we reached that point?
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Is the system about to collapse?
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Or might infinite growth
actually be possible?
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- The governments don't want
us to even question the G word,
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they don't even want to put
a discussion around growth.
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If you were looking at
this from the outside,
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an alien arriving from outer
space and you're looking
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at this society, you would
really wonder what was going on.
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What are they doing?
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What is this growth that
has to appear in political
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sentence and is the basis
of every economics textbook?
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What is it all about?
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Is it a religion that they have?
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Is it a god that they're chasing?
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Is it a virus that's taken over them?
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And what is this visceral
fear that emerges
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as soon as growth starts to go away?
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(up tempo music)
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- [Narrator] The Federation
of German Industries
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is Germany's most influential lobby.
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No German government can
afford to ignore its voice.
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- [Narrator] Where does this unshakable
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belief in economic growth come from?
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Has it always been there?
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Is it really part of human nature?
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- [Man] It was through
audacious and imaginative
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use of mass production
methods that US industry
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was able to perform its war time miracles.
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To build more planes than
all the united nations
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put together, to turn
out ships at the rate
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of 200 a month, ships which
carried overseas the armed
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might of the United States to
decide the outcome of the war.
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- [Narrator] The success story of economic
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growth began during World War II.
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Mass production of tanks and aircraft led
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the American economy out of crisis.
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The output of military
equipment was now calculated by
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a new statistical measure,
gross domestic product, or GDP.
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If production, i.e. GDP,
grew, then so did prosperity.
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Americans believed so
firmly in this new formula
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that they compelled their
allies to bring their
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economic policies in line with it.
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From then on, it wasn't people's incomes
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that counted, it was only growth.
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- And it turned out to
be such a useful measure
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actually for the war effort
and for understanding
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the war effort, that afterwards
there was a lot of effort
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put into building this system
of national accounts, having
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this number, the GDP,
correctly measured through
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the economy, and it became
almost incrementally, it became
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the single most important
policy number across the world.
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It kind of symbolizes progress to us.
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It sort of says, wow, things are getting
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bigger so they must be getting better.
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That was the birth of the GDP.
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- [Narrator] In the three
decades after the war,
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the Western economies grew
up to eight percent annually.
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In the US, they called it
the golden age of capitalism.
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In France, they were
the 30 glorious years.
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In Germany, it was the economic miracle.
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An entire generation enjoyed material
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prosperity and full employment and this
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became engraved in the
collective consciousness.
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Even though these high
growth rates were only
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made possible by massive
war time destruction,
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the belief in growth was now unstoppable.
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GDP became the most important
benchmark in history.
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(up tempo music)
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- And the economy and the
grace of the economy was doing
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a good job for us when we
were young, if you like,
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when as an economy, as a
society, we were young.
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And one of the really
important things to say
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is that there are some
societies where that is still
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necessary, where you still
need that growth, where you
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still need food, clothing,
and shelter, where there are
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very, very poor undernourished
people living on less than
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the price of a skinny latte
from the cafe downstairs.
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That's a situation where
growth makes some sense.
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But the idea that as human
beings all we want ever is more
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and more stuff doesn't really
stack up so after a certain
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point you have to ask yourself,
well, how much is enough?
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How much more do I need
to grow the economy
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to satisfy human appetites?
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- The GDP counts everything
that's produced really.
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Yeah, sure, it counts
some of the good things
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that we need but it also counts ambulances
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to clear up carnage on
the streets or the rescue
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efforts when an oil
tanker pollutes the ocean.
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To some extent all of this is a measure of
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the busy-ness of economic activity.
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But many of these things,
even though they're getting
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bigger, are not really
economic growth, they're more
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uneconomic growth because
they're not delivering welfare.
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Sometimes they're just clearing
up after the mess we made.
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Sometimes they're really creating mess,
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really destructive
production if you like of,
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you know, things that
actually just destroy stuff.
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- [Narrator] The 1970s
saw growth rates sink for
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the first time due to the
oil crisis and other factors.
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The boom was over, the markets saturated.
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Western economies stagnated.
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Millions suddenly found
themselves unemployed.
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It was uncharted territory.
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For the first time, the limits
of growth became visible,
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economically, socially, and ecologically.
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- [Man] We do have some
understanding about growth.
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- [Narrator] In 1972, a group of scholars,
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commissioned by the Club
of Rome, presented a report
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in Washington entitled
"The Limits to Growth."
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Using a computer simulation, researchers
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at MIT had calculated
for the first time what
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continuous economic growth
would do to the planet.
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Their findings set off alarm
bells around the world.
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- When resource consumption
is doubling every 20 years.
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- [Narrator] For the
first time people were
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confronted with the fact
that economic growth
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could also have negative consequences.
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And that the planet's natural
limits would soon be reached.
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The success story of growth was in crisis.
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- Most important lesson is that we're near
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the end of our development of society.
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We've been going on for
about 2,000 years and we've
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reached levels of prosperity
which carry the seeds
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of disruption and necessitate
a complete re-look at the
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whole world's social,
political, and other situations.
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- [Narrator] The Club of Rome report sold
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30 million copies and
became a global sensation.
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The realization that
exponential growth was
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destroying the foundation
of human life on this
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planet was entirely new and
shocking to many people.
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And yet, soon, the scholars
themselves came under attack.
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Their calculations were
decried as irresponsible fear
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mongering because it's impossible
to admit the unacceptable.
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The success story of growth must continue.
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Unfortunately many of
the scholars predictions
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turned out to be right
and in many cases reality
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even surpassed their bleak predictions.
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As the Club of Rome report was causing
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an international uproar,
the Brazilian rainforest
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in the Amazon basin was
still nearly untouched.
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The huge Brazilian state of
Mato Grosso, largely populated
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by indigenous people, consisted
of forest and savanna.
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Today, not much of that is left.
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Since the mid '80s, progress,
aided by international
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investors, has been eating
away at the rainforest.
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35 football fields of forest
disappear every minute.
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It's been the same story
over and over again.
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Lumberjacks move in first,
then cattle breeders,
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and finally, the soybean barons.
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- [Narrator] The tropical
climate delivers three to four
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harvests per year and
with it massive profits.
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Soy and corn for export and animal feed.
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Highway 163 is the gateway
to the Amazon basin.
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It brought lumberjacks, money,
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and destruction into the forest.
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Today countless trucks
line the agribusiness
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highway transporting their valuable cargo
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to the international ports.
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They pass an endless
sea of soybean fields,
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enormous silos, and
slaughterhouses to one of
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the largest boom regions in the world.
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Growth rates of up to 20%.
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Big business.
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- In the '70s, this region,
it was just populized
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by Indians, it was just amazing forests.
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34 years just of colonization
and it's the most
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important region in
agribusiness of the country.
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It's the right place to make
new investments, to make money.
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Here is the most important, biggest,
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food lots in the state of Mato Grosso.
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The cattle, a good part are exported
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to Russia, China, and other countries.
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Here we work.
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It's just classify the animals.
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- [Matheus Vieira] Cattle goes to the JBS,
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the most biggest meat
industry in the world.
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He's from Brazil and they have another
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12 countries around the world.
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- [Interviewer] Do you see any limits?
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- No.
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Next 10 years with the
technologies, what can I say?
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There is no limits.
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The limit's probably the sky.
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- [Narrator] In just a few years,
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Mato Grosso's untouched wilderness was
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transformed into the world's
largest food factory.
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- [Narrator] In response
to the crisis of the '70s,
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economic policy underwent
a change of course.
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New growth had to be followed
no matter what the cost.
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Even if that meant unleashing the primary
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forces of finance capitalism.
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These had been contained
after World War II
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because they were held responsible for
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the Great Depression and the war itself.
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Monetarism was the new magic word.
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- Monetarism was the idea that
if you put more money into
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the economy, liquidity it was
called, that additional money
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in the economy would help
real investment that would
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help give us more production,
it would allow us to consume
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more goods, and we would
get growth back again.
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So, this little hiatus, if you
like, in the '70s primarily
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caused by the oil crisis led
to a transformation in the
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economics of our societies
and in particular how we think
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about growth and how we think
about stimulating growth.
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- [Narrator] Governments
deregulated financial markets.
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Banks, insurance companies,
and investment funds gained
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in influence and were now
allowed to gamble with
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currencies, stocks, even with
people's retirement funds.
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Capital was let loose and the financial
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sector was flooded with money.
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(jazz music)
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It was a pact with the
devil and the beginning
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of a slow process of self disempowerment.
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In exchange for growth,
governments relinquished
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their power to financial markets.
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But who do we mean by
financial markets and capital?
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And what does it all have to do with us?
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The Allianz Group is
Europe's biggest insurance
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conglomerate and one
of the biggest players
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in the global financial markets.
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- And yes, China, contributed
about one percent.
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And next you have India,
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which was less than 0.2% contribution.
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And that's not.
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- That's true but China still is a little
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bit struggling really
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model from investment and
production oriented toward
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consumption and service
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If we summarize this, moderate
positive growth in China,
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therefore also in Asia overall,
some kind of modeled growth
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and in the developed markets
in Europe and the US.
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There are also no new
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So, the idea is collaboration
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to do projects together,
directly in emerging markets
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based on hard currency,
US dollar or Euro and so
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to avoid the local currency volatility.
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If we invest in emerging
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a nice on it, so we have
a security we can sell
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if necessary like in the finance area,
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that's let's say a win
win situation for us.
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- I take that as a yes.
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of millions of insured
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individuals is sent on
its way to multiply.
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When Andreas Gruber's
team has a rough idea
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to which countries and
sectors the billions
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should flow, they hire an asset manager.
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He determines what stocks
or bonds to invest in.
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- Most of our clients are
institutions, companies, pension
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funds, employers federations,
also unions, churches,
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central banks, and sovereign
wealth management companies.
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What they want is they want their
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money invested in the capital market.
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Our customers expect their
capital to be returned.
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They want their money back and they
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want their return on their capital.
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of assets and in Germany
we're managing 480 billion
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Euros of assets we have
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they have a social role
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in distributing people's
savings towards investment.
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usually a form of debt.
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to buy a house, that loan
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and we could end up buying that bond.
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So, growth is important
so that individuals
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and companies who borrow
money in the capital
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markets can actually pay those loans back.
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- No, that's pre-trade.
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- [Man] Yeah, but he wouldn't say.
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- So, there's always debt in the system.
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to the whole country level
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and without growth that
debt cannot be repaid back.
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Imagine a world where there's zero growth.
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That's a world in which pretty
much everything gets frozen.
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If you haven't got a
job, in this new world,
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with no growth, bad luck.
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You're gonna have to wait for somebody
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to retire before maybe you get their job.
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A society without growth
probably won't work at all.
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Not for long.
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It will degenerate into collapse.
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- [Narrator] Without growth,
societies will descend into
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chaos according to the
financial and political elite.
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But is that really the case?
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Isn't it rather their blind faith
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in growth that leads us to chaos?
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In the '80s, the world
of finance operating from
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the city of London and
Wall Street increased
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its influence on governments and societies
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and became the driving
force of capitalism.
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Today, financial markets, not governments,
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determine the wellbeing
of entire countries.
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How did it come to this?
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How could financial markets gain such
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influence over our own lives?
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(electric guitar music)
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One person who knows the
financial world better
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than almost anyone is Stewart Cowley.
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For nearly 30 years, he
was a successful fund
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manager on Wall Street
and in the city of London.
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- No, I never planned
to be a fund manager.
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I was a scientist and I was
at Oxford and one night I was
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playing in a jazz quartet and
the drummer was an economist.
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We were very drunk and I said, you know,
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what's this thing in the city?
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And he told us all about
it and I woke up the next
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morning with a massive
hangover but remembered what he
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said and I went to the
careers department at Oxford
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University and got the forms
and filled them in really
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badly and before I knew
it I'd been offered a job
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and had been offered 20,000 pounds to go
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and start on Wall Street in 1987.
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And that was the Wild West.
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That was the beginning of it really.
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And we went into the new
era of Reagan, Thatcher
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and liberal trade so
what we're doing is we're
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taking the core set of
the system, yes, and we
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went through this process
of liberalization.
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So, the so-called big bang
in the city was all about
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financial deregulation, let's
go, let the market decide
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and let's hire people, and
let's see what happens, yes.
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As opposed to this really kind
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of controlled atmosphere
which we'd had before.
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And it was that that we walked
into where money now talks,
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now money wins and you
need people, smart people,
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to trade the markets and
make finance the powerhouse
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behind capitalism which
it's supposed to be because
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all capitalism functions
on debt and functions
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on money and particularly debt.
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And that's what it did and that's when
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growth and inflation
exploded in the 1980s.
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- [Narrator] The plan seemed
to work, stock markets boomed,
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growth no longer needed to
be financed by increasing
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wages and tax revenue, now
it was all about credit.
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Governments and individuals
were to take out
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loans from banks and
investors so that they could
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be good consumers and
thus generate growth.
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- Credit cards come along,
overdraft facilities,
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lending for houses
becomes widely available
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and it's at that point that it explodes.
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That now it's not just
the very wealthy who have
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access to all these things,
consumerism, it's now
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people lower down the
income scales as well.
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And if you look at money
supply and the supply
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of credit in the early
'80s, it just explodes.
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There's been access to
consumerism and kind
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of promotion of consumerism
plus debt which has
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created the growth and
created where we are today.
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When was the last time
you heard anybody say
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that I can't come out tonight 'cause we're
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saving up to buy a refrigerator?
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It just doesn't happen you know.
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Nobody waits anymore.
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- [Narrator] The cold logic of the market
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took over producing winners and losers.
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- [Interviewer] Used to be a poker player.
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Is this poker play with other means?
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- Well, yeah, I've played
some poker in my lifetime,
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I suppose a lot of people
in this business have.
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I think there's a common
feeling that playing cards
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or playing blackjack or
something like that is gambling
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but of course we know it's
not really gambling it's
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taking into account the
probability of certain
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events occurring and
placing wages accordingly.
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We would call that the art of speculation.
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- [Narrator] One of the
people who knew best how
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to profit from this new
logic was Donald Trump.
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- I really think I have
an instinct but I don't
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think it's the instinct of a shark.
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I think it's the instinct
of maybe getting what
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I want or knowing how to get what I want.
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- [Narrator] Only a few
recognized the profit
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opportunities in this new
era as well as Donald Trump.
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He made large scale
purchases of derelict New
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York apartment blocks
and promised to transform
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them into luxury hotels and apartments.
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He received financing from
banks high on the market boom
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and through the largest tax
break in New York City history.
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Trump himself paid practically nothing.
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- Manhattan is an incredible
place where you build
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a huge building and it's
sold out in a matter of days.
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I mean, you know, you build a building
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with literally three or 400 units.
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I'm building a building, it's
one of the hottest buildings
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anyone's ever seen, it's
just selling like hotcakes.
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Manhattan itself is becoming
a place of the rich period.
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- Where are your limits, Mr. Trump?
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- Well, I don't what my
limits are but I know
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that when I reach my
limits I hope I'm gonna
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be able to know at that point.
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- [Narrator] The genie
was out of the bottle.
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The brave new world of
financial capitalism
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could no longer be constrained.
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And great efforts were made to sell
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it as a controllable and secure system.
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- The whole industry
is based around a kind
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of illusion and the illusion of certainty.
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There is a vested interest if
you like inside of the system
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as it is to project knowledge
and extra knowledge.
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And that's not to say
that the people who are
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in it are telling lies,
it's that they're doing
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their best with what
they have but they really
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don't have any more knowledge
than probably you do.
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- [Narrator] The Bloomberg
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plays a central role in
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Since the 1980s, Bloomberg
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Around the clock, Bloomberg's
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We provide a huge amount
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We're trying to inform the
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We're trying to make a
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Economic growth data is one of the most
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important numbers we look for, it provides
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a football score on the
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Steady, solid growth in financial markets
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is usually reflected in solid sustainable
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The reason is that people feel wealthier.
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- These are the yields in Spain, Italy,
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Ireland, they're all falling today.
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Bond insurance is falling
across Europe today
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and those are the commodities,
the far right hand side
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of your screen after Greece
of course received a deal.
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- [Simon Kennedy] If you look
at the textbooks there should
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be no limits to growth but if
you look in the newspapers at
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the moment you get the feeling
there is a break on growth.
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The central question now is
whether we're in a cyclical
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slump or whether something
structural is going on.
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- Nine percent lower,
biggest drop since 2008.
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- [Interviewer] And do you have
a personal opinion on that?
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- I don't have a personal
opinion, I'm a journalist.
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I do but I'm not going to share it.
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So the history of the world
would suggest that man
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actually usually gets it
right quite a lot of the time.
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That when backs are put against the wall
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those entrepreneurs, those investors have
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smart ideas can actually flourish.
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If you look back 20 years, the
idea of Facebook or Twitter,
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of Apple computers, of all
those things that we almost take
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for granted these days,
are new sources of growth.
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Yes, the world can reinvent itself.
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It has done so multiple times in history.
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You can usually bet on the human
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being to find a better future.
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- I used Bloomberg for,
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Every single day.
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people's remaining to have
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confidence in the information
that they're giving out
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and the promotion of the
ideology and the narrative which
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finance is based around which
has increasingly become this
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kind of game show approach to
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to invest, be interested,
see the possibilities in it.
494
00:48:03,140 --> 00:48:04,890
The capitalist message if you like.
495
00:48:05,930 --> 00:48:09,940
For a period of time, everybody
wins, that's the thing.
496
00:48:09,940 --> 00:48:10,850
And it's stable.
497
00:48:10,850 --> 00:48:14,420
Mathematically it's stable
for a certain period of time.
498
00:48:14,420 --> 00:48:17,100
And then as you know a
number of economists,
499
00:48:17,100 --> 00:48:20,194
Marx, Keynes, have
pointed out, is eventually
500
00:48:20,194 --> 00:48:24,310
all these manias go up a lot
and then they crash down.
501
00:48:41,870 --> 00:48:45,200
- So there was heavy lobbying
by the financial sector on
502
00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:48,550
the government to ensure actually
that this financial sector
503
00:48:48,550 --> 00:48:52,330
growth could continue and
governments believed that it was
504
00:48:52,330 --> 00:48:54,890
in the interest of the economy
because everyone told them,
505
00:48:54,890 --> 00:48:57,860
monetarism told them, if you
had all this liquidity in
506
00:48:57,860 --> 00:49:00,830
the system then you must be
growing your real economy.
507
00:49:00,830 --> 00:49:04,040
But actually what was happening
within that system rather
508
00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:06,430
was that you'd freed up all
this money which was then used
509
00:49:06,430 --> 00:49:11,140
to bet on the increases in
the value of certain companies
510
00:49:11,140 --> 00:49:14,520
and certain shares and of
money itself in the system.
511
00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:16,810
And the people who were
doing that betting were
512
00:49:16,810 --> 00:49:19,618
not only profiting from
it but they were also
513
00:49:19,618 --> 00:49:22,100
the only people who were
regulating the system.
514
00:49:22,100 --> 00:49:24,270
So, it created a huge unstable and
515
00:49:24,270 --> 00:49:29,270
an incredibly unequal system in which
516
00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:33,303
the rich got very much
richer really very fast.
517
00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:39,540
- [Narrator] For decades, society has been
518
00:49:39,540 --> 00:49:42,090
transformed into an
enormous market to which
519
00:49:42,090 --> 00:49:44,113
there's allegedly no alternative.
520
00:49:45,850 --> 00:49:48,180
The huge sums earned by
a few in the financial
521
00:49:48,180 --> 00:49:51,270
markets scream for high returns and have
522
00:49:51,270 --> 00:49:53,423
penetrated every corner of the globe.
523
00:49:54,750 --> 00:49:57,380
New ways are constantly sought to expand
524
00:49:57,380 --> 00:49:59,313
profits already in the trillions.
525
00:50:00,570 --> 00:50:03,570
The world seems to be getting
too small for all the capital.
526
00:50:05,384 --> 00:50:07,967
(gentle music)
527
00:51:27,720 --> 00:51:30,760
- When I was a kid, I
couldn't afford to fly
528
00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:33,520
in an aeroplane, I actually
joined the air transport
529
00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:35,763
industry before I ever
flew in an aeroplane.
530
00:51:36,660 --> 00:51:39,260
Today, people take flying for granted.
531
00:51:39,260 --> 00:51:41,800
It shaped the way we buy goods, it shaped
532
00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:43,517
the places people go to,
it shaped the meetings
533
00:51:43,517 --> 00:51:46,683
between people and different cultures.
534
00:51:50,830 --> 00:51:54,180
Over the next 20 years we expect the world
535
00:51:54,180 --> 00:51:58,080
to need 32,000 new civil aircraft,
536
00:51:58,080 --> 00:52:00,830
passenger aircraft and freighter aircraft.
537
00:52:00,830 --> 00:52:05,587
And we expect to sell a
significant share of those 32,000.
538
00:52:15,650 --> 00:52:19,670
At the moment, around
one billion of the people
539
00:52:19,670 --> 00:52:22,433
who live on our planet
fly by air regularly.
540
00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:27,320
The remaining six billion
don't yet fly by air
541
00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:31,320
and it's these people who
will be tomorrow's passengers
542
00:52:31,320 --> 00:52:35,070
and tomorrow's customers
in addition for those of us
543
00:52:35,070 --> 00:52:37,620
in developed countries who
take flying for granted.
544
00:52:38,770 --> 00:52:40,509
Clearly this means that the biggest scope
545
00:52:40,509 --> 00:52:43,910
for growth is where the
people are and where
546
00:52:43,910 --> 00:52:47,190
the economic wealth is,
the disposable incomes are.
547
00:52:47,190 --> 00:52:52,137
So, top of the list come
Asia Pacific, China, India,
548
00:52:52,137 --> 00:52:57,137
Indonesia, southeast Asia
followed quickly by Latin
549
00:52:57,500 --> 00:53:01,121
America where we see strong
growth and a little further
550
00:53:01,121 --> 00:53:05,593
behind but growing strongly
from a small base is Africa.
551
00:53:09,802 --> 00:53:11,969
(mumbles)
552
00:53:33,854 --> 00:53:35,450
You have to go to China to appreciate
553
00:53:35,450 --> 00:53:38,373
how strongly China has been growing.
554
00:53:39,270 --> 00:53:42,300
Beijing capital airport has become just
555
00:53:42,300 --> 00:53:45,120
recently the busiest airport in the world.
556
00:53:45,120 --> 00:53:47,410
And that growth will
be continued with a new
557
00:53:47,410 --> 00:53:52,250
Beijing airport as well as
the growth in the major hubs.
558
00:53:52,250 --> 00:53:53,793
A lot of growth in China.
559
00:53:56,171 --> 00:53:58,754
(gentle music)
560
00:54:53,057 --> 00:54:58,057
- We have delivered over
the last six years more
561
00:54:58,480 --> 00:55:03,380
than 100 brand new airplanes
to the allies in China.
562
00:55:03,380 --> 00:55:06,940
Ever year more than, in other terms,
563
00:55:06,940 --> 00:55:11,940
around one airplane every
three days to China.
564
00:55:19,900 --> 00:55:22,983
The change is spectacular.
565
00:55:24,670 --> 00:55:28,833
I can't imagine that
when I came here in 1994.
566
00:55:31,240 --> 00:55:34,480
On the street and you can see everywhere
567
00:55:34,480 --> 00:55:38,480
full of bicycles today and if you look at
568
00:55:38,480 --> 00:55:43,480
the street and very limited
number of the bicycles.
569
00:55:44,820 --> 00:55:47,253
That has changed very strongly.
570
00:55:53,316 --> 00:55:56,900
- [Interviewer] You have
more traffic jams today?
571
00:55:56,900 --> 00:55:59,793
- Traffic jam is a real
headache in Beijing.
572
00:56:01,340 --> 00:56:04,640
A huge city like Beijing,
there are too much cars.
573
00:56:04,640 --> 00:56:06,623
Yes, it's another headache.
574
00:57:09,657 --> 00:57:12,050
- Currently we have slightly more
575
00:57:12,050 --> 00:57:14,593
than 200 airports in China.
576
00:57:15,620 --> 00:57:18,890
And every year in the range of 10
577
00:57:18,890 --> 00:57:22,400
or 15 new airports will be built.
578
00:57:22,400 --> 00:57:24,360
The market is huge and we are
579
00:57:24,360 --> 00:57:29,230
optimistic because with
1.4 billion population.
580
00:57:29,230 --> 00:57:34,230
Imagine if everybody can
afford the travel expenses
581
00:57:36,310 --> 00:57:39,340
even a peasant with low
cost business model,
582
00:57:39,340 --> 00:57:43,000
a worker is willing to travel by air.
583
00:57:43,000 --> 00:57:45,350
The market is fantastic.
584
00:57:45,350 --> 00:57:50,350
You can't imagine and I
already seen the sign of that.
585
00:57:51,900 --> 00:57:54,840
That's why when I look
at it, every time I'm
586
00:57:54,840 --> 00:57:57,540
asked about the prospective of the market,
587
00:57:57,540 --> 00:58:01,250
I cannot imagine the
dimension of this market.
588
00:58:01,250 --> 00:58:05,516
When I have the reference
of 1.4 billion which
589
00:58:05,516 --> 00:58:09,453
is even more important
than the whole of Europe.
590
00:58:11,700 --> 00:58:16,023
Every 15 years the world
fleet will be doubled again.
591
00:58:17,010 --> 00:58:20,750
In China, you don't need to wait 15 years,
592
00:58:20,750 --> 00:58:24,330
seven, eight years, you
get the fleet doubled.
593
00:58:24,330 --> 00:58:27,263
It's quicker than in
other parts of the world.
594
00:58:31,108 --> 00:58:33,130
- [Interviewer] But more air
traffic means more pollution.
595
00:58:33,130 --> 00:58:34,623
What do you do about that?
596
00:58:36,370 --> 00:58:41,220
- We made every single effort
to try to reduce emissions
597
00:58:41,220 --> 00:58:45,620
but if we look at the
social benefits and to
598
00:58:45,620 --> 00:58:48,680
the economic benefits that
the aviation industry brings
599
00:58:48,680 --> 00:58:53,680
to humanity, and then people
may think differently.
600
00:58:57,500 --> 00:59:01,993
We are trying to make the
world smaller and smaller.
601
00:59:05,480 --> 00:59:07,690
To make it a real village.
602
00:59:11,765 --> 00:59:14,348
(gentle music)
603
00:59:43,171 --> 00:59:45,338
(mumbles)
604
00:59:47,794 --> 00:59:48,627
- [Woman] Copy that.
605
00:59:48,627 --> 00:59:50,230
- [Narrator] For decades, growth was kept
606
00:59:50,230 --> 00:59:53,210
on life support with debt.
607
00:59:53,210 --> 00:59:55,930
Only a few had the courage
to say that the party
608
00:59:55,930 --> 00:59:58,923
couldn't go on forever but
no one listened to them.
609
00:59:59,870 --> 01:00:03,490
In September 2008, the time had come.
610
01:00:03,490 --> 01:00:04,940
The house of cards collapsed.
611
01:00:34,280 --> 01:00:35,160
- [Reporter] It's a black Monday
612
01:00:35,160 --> 01:00:37,200
for the American capital market.
613
01:00:37,200 --> 01:00:39,880
Despite dramatic rescue
efforts over the weekend,
614
01:00:39,880 --> 01:00:41,900
all efforts to keep the
world's fourth largest
615
01:00:41,900 --> 01:00:44,750
investment bank alive have failed.
616
01:00:44,750 --> 01:00:47,433
Lehman Brothers is shutting
its doors for good.
617
01:00:48,490 --> 01:00:49,700
- It's also, I think, a necessary
618
01:00:49,700 --> 01:00:51,390
part of the cleanup process.
619
01:00:51,390 --> 01:00:55,270
Lehman we knew was weak,
we expected it to go.
620
01:00:55,270 --> 01:00:56,630
It's not going in the way that people
621
01:00:56,630 --> 01:00:58,503
expected it to but it's gone.
622
01:01:03,794 --> 01:01:06,000
- In the long run I'm confident
that our capital markets are
623
01:01:06,000 --> 01:01:10,170
flexible and resilient and can
deal with these adjustments.
624
01:01:10,170 --> 01:01:11,156
- [Interviewer] Just tell
us how you're feeling,
625
01:01:11,156 --> 01:01:12,418
it's awful I know but.
626
01:01:12,418 --> 01:01:13,602
- It sucks.
627
01:01:13,602 --> 01:01:15,702
- [Interviewer] Did you
see it coming at all?
628
01:01:15,702 --> 01:01:16,952
- No, I didn't.
629
01:01:20,070 --> 01:01:22,010
- There was a deep shock
in the system, there was
630
01:01:22,010 --> 01:01:25,160
a sense of, my goodness, we
can't let this happen again
631
01:01:25,160 --> 01:01:27,522
governments have to have
a better handle on this
632
01:01:27,522 --> 01:01:31,390
system and for a while there
were attempts to do that.
633
01:01:31,390 --> 01:01:35,413
It lasted probably a
matter of a few months.
634
01:01:35,413 --> 01:01:40,304
In fact, by the end of 2009 and into 2010,
635
01:01:40,304 --> 01:01:44,270
the very same companies
that had been responsible
636
01:01:44,270 --> 01:01:47,233
for some of that disaster
were still engaging in those
637
01:01:47,233 --> 01:01:50,866
same kinds of risky
trading procedures that for
638
01:01:50,866 --> 01:01:54,260
a while had been stopped
in the wake of the crisis.
639
01:01:54,260 --> 01:01:57,833
And we learned the lesson
but then we forgot it again.
640
01:02:01,790 --> 01:02:03,350
- [Narrator] The financial
crisis was a huge
641
01:02:03,350 --> 01:02:06,110
opportunity for governments
to free the world from its
642
01:02:06,110 --> 01:02:10,090
dependency on financial markets
and to change the system.
643
01:02:10,090 --> 01:02:11,790
But they wasted it.
644
01:02:11,790 --> 01:02:15,320
Instead they did all they
could to revive the old system,
645
01:02:15,320 --> 01:02:18,173
spending trillions of
dollars to save the banks.
646
01:02:19,550 --> 01:02:22,040
Then something incredible happened.
647
01:02:22,040 --> 01:02:25,180
The banking crisis
miraculously became a sovereign
648
01:02:25,180 --> 01:02:29,290
debt crisis, private
debt became public debt.
649
01:02:29,290 --> 01:02:32,210
Governments and their citizens
were subjected to austerity
650
01:02:32,210 --> 01:02:35,633
policies under which millions
of people suffer to this day.
651
01:02:36,940 --> 01:02:39,631
Banks and stock markets,
however, were keen to demonstrate
652
01:02:39,631 --> 01:02:42,343
a sense of normalcy as soon as possible.
653
01:02:43,300 --> 01:02:46,710
In reality, nothing is as it seems.
654
01:02:46,710 --> 01:02:49,260
Capitalism survived the crisis but no
655
01:02:49,260 --> 01:02:51,483
longer functions like it once did.
656
01:02:59,490 --> 01:03:01,360
- Even though it's not
as busy as it used to be,
657
01:03:01,360 --> 01:03:03,530
this is still the center of capitalism.
658
01:03:03,530 --> 01:03:05,140
You can look at all the tourists who are
659
01:03:05,140 --> 01:03:07,600
outside the building taking pictures.
660
01:03:07,600 --> 01:03:10,430
They all still believe this
is the center of capitalism.
661
01:03:10,430 --> 01:03:14,140
It may not be as busy as
before but it's a symbol
662
01:03:15,020 --> 01:03:17,070
of something, it means something to them.
663
01:03:25,933 --> 01:03:28,170
Here we have visits
like when President Bush
664
01:03:28,170 --> 01:03:30,163
came on to the floor and visited.
665
01:03:31,080 --> 01:03:33,040
That's John Thain, the former CEO
666
01:03:33,040 --> 01:03:34,770
of the New York Stock Exchange.
667
01:03:34,770 --> 01:03:36,950
You're looking for growth, that's what all
668
01:03:36,950 --> 01:03:39,047
of these people are looking
for, how to grow their
669
01:03:39,047 --> 01:03:43,030
companies, how to grow the
economy, how to make more money,
670
01:03:43,030 --> 01:03:48,030
how to employ more people, how
to get people wages growing.
671
01:03:48,524 --> 01:03:51,350
The whole game here is how to get growth,
672
01:03:51,350 --> 01:03:54,710
how to employ people, how to
keep the global economy going.
673
01:03:54,710 --> 01:03:56,060
That's what it's all about.
674
01:03:56,987 --> 01:03:57,820
Come on.
675
01:04:06,340 --> 01:04:09,150
I'm sort of like the weatherman
for the stock market.
676
01:04:09,150 --> 01:04:11,310
I come in every day and
try to figure out what's
677
01:04:11,310 --> 01:04:14,330
going on in the stock market,
I talk to trading desks,
678
01:04:14,330 --> 01:04:17,030
I talk to analysts, I
talk to people who know
679
01:04:17,030 --> 01:04:19,280
a lot about the stock
market, and I go on the air
680
01:04:19,280 --> 01:04:21,970
and on the internet and
explain what's going on.
681
01:04:21,970 --> 01:04:23,740
So, every day I come in
and try to figure out
682
01:04:23,740 --> 01:04:25,990
which way the wind is
blowing on Wall Street.
683
01:04:32,859 --> 01:04:34,526
- Opening at $60.12.
684
01:04:40,443 --> 01:04:42,070
- Congratulations, a
big day for all of you.
685
01:04:42,070 --> 01:04:43,910
Congratulations and,
again, happy to have you.
686
01:04:43,910 --> 01:04:44,743
Thank you very much.
687
01:04:44,743 --> 01:04:47,123
This is my favorite part of my job.
688
01:04:47,123 --> 01:04:48,690
- Watching IPOs.
689
01:04:48,690 --> 01:04:49,890
- Watching people make money.
690
01:04:49,890 --> 01:04:52,840
Watching capitalism at work.
691
01:04:52,840 --> 01:04:53,899
Congratulations.
692
01:04:53,899 --> 01:04:54,943
- Thanks Bob.
693
01:05:00,890 --> 01:05:04,390
- So, remember the S&P 500,
though, is now 1.5% this month.
694
01:05:04,390 --> 01:05:06,700
We have very clear market leaders and
695
01:05:06,700 --> 01:05:08,850
the reason we've had it is because better
696
01:05:08,850 --> 01:05:11,370
prospects for earnings
in the fourth quarter.
697
01:05:11,370 --> 01:05:13,100
Remember what the market
leaders have been?
698
01:05:13,100 --> 01:05:14,880
Energy, tech, and banks.
699
01:05:14,880 --> 01:05:18,927
Lagging today, energy tech,
and banks, that's interesting.
700
01:05:18,927 --> 01:05:20,103
Thanks guys.
701
01:05:23,570 --> 01:05:25,370
- Hey, Bob, let me just change your.
702
01:05:30,330 --> 01:05:32,395
- You can't come up and
say, well, the markets
703
01:05:32,395 --> 01:05:34,899
are just drifting around,
there is no real meeting
704
01:05:34,899 --> 01:05:39,000
of anything that's happening
today, back to you Sue.
705
01:05:39,000 --> 01:05:39,970
That won't make any sense,
706
01:05:39,970 --> 01:05:41,720
nobody's gonna be interested in that.
707
01:05:41,720 --> 01:05:45,550
Human beings want stories,
they don't want an endless list
708
01:05:45,550 --> 01:05:48,330
of numbers, nobody's impressed
with a list of numbers.
709
01:05:48,330 --> 01:05:49,970
They want to know what's going on.
710
01:05:49,970 --> 01:05:52,767
Tell us in plain English
what the markets are
711
01:05:52,767 --> 01:05:56,420
doing and that's the real
skillset and often that's
712
01:05:56,420 --> 01:05:58,670
not easy because things
are very complicated.
713
01:06:02,800 --> 01:06:05,373
Hey, so what do you think's going on here?
714
01:06:08,737 --> 01:06:11,740
Yeah.
715
01:06:11,740 --> 01:06:15,950
Azure Power opened at
16.12, now trading at 15.29,
716
01:06:15,950 --> 01:06:17,215
that's kind of a disappointment.
717
01:06:17,215 --> 01:06:18,720
- Yeah, down 15%.
718
01:06:18,720 --> 01:06:19,900
- They were very nice, though,
719
01:06:19,900 --> 01:06:21,630
they were such wonderful people.
720
01:06:21,630 --> 01:06:24,908
They all came from India to do
the whole solar power thing.
721
01:06:24,908 --> 01:06:25,741
- Oh yeah.
722
01:06:25,741 --> 01:06:26,574
- They were all excited.
723
01:06:26,574 --> 01:06:28,820
It was just a great
moment to talk to them.
724
01:06:28,820 --> 01:06:30,590
And they've been, they said they've
725
01:06:30,590 --> 01:06:32,573
been watching CNBC for 20 years.
726
01:06:37,000 --> 01:06:39,276
People have always claimed that capitalism
727
01:06:39,276 --> 01:06:42,680
can be evil and capitalism
doesn't help people.
728
01:06:42,680 --> 01:06:44,680
I completely disagree.
729
01:06:44,680 --> 01:06:47,499
What I see in the last
150 years is millions
730
01:06:47,499 --> 01:06:50,840
of people have been lifted out of poverty.
731
01:06:50,840 --> 01:06:54,680
I personally am a true
believer and still believe that
732
01:06:54,680 --> 01:06:58,673
the system works well and
I'm committed to that system.
733
01:09:05,627 --> 01:09:07,543
- Here's the news for the day.
734
01:09:08,400 --> 01:09:13,113
Everybody love each other and
quit screwing each other over.
735
01:09:14,270 --> 01:09:15,943
Be a friend to everybody.
736
01:09:17,030 --> 01:09:19,130
And don't forget just
'cause we're homeless
737
01:09:19,130 --> 01:09:20,530
don't mean we're bad people.
738
01:09:26,810 --> 01:09:29,002
- I think what we've seen
over the last few years
739
01:09:29,002 --> 01:09:34,002
is cracks in the shiny
surface of capitalism.
740
01:09:36,140 --> 01:09:37,860
And at first that's what
they look like, you know,
741
01:09:37,860 --> 01:09:40,780
they just look as though
something not quite right
742
01:09:40,780 --> 01:09:44,070
on the way the light reflects off it.
743
01:09:44,070 --> 01:09:48,550
And as you look more and
more closely, you see
744
01:09:51,140 --> 01:09:55,053
that these cracks go right
to the heart of the model.
745
01:09:55,910 --> 01:10:00,910
They go right to the heart of
the basic ideas of capitalism.
746
01:10:06,790 --> 01:10:09,550
- [Narrator] Does capitalism still work?
747
01:10:09,550 --> 01:10:11,763
Can the system deliver what it promises,
748
01:10:12,870 --> 01:10:13,937
providing growth, jobs,
and prosperity for all?
749
01:13:26,780 --> 01:13:29,020
- [Narrator] Ever since
the Industrial Revolution,
750
01:13:29,020 --> 01:13:31,810
machines have been replacing human labor.
751
01:13:31,810 --> 01:13:33,923
Thereby causing great societal upheavals.
752
01:13:35,110 --> 01:13:37,030
But until recently, they have only
753
01:13:37,030 --> 01:13:39,313
replaced the physical labor of humans.
754
01:13:40,430 --> 01:13:42,360
Now machines are capable of doing what
755
01:13:42,360 --> 01:13:46,440
makes us humans unique,
they are able to think.
756
01:13:46,440 --> 01:13:49,330
It's a completely new chapter
in human history which
757
01:13:49,330 --> 01:13:52,923
will have massive consequences
on how we live and work.
758
01:13:58,980 --> 01:14:00,890
- [Woman] Can technology think?
759
01:14:00,890 --> 01:14:01,763
Watson can.
760
01:14:03,460 --> 01:14:06,730
IBM Watson is a technology
unlike any that's come before.
761
01:14:06,730 --> 01:14:09,530
Because rather than force
humans to think like a computer,
762
01:14:09,530 --> 01:14:11,853
Watson interacts with
humans on human terms.
763
01:14:15,260 --> 01:14:18,260
You don't program Watson,
you work with Watson.
764
01:14:18,260 --> 01:14:19,770
And through your interactions with it,
765
01:14:19,770 --> 01:14:21,303
it learns just like we do.
766
01:15:00,167 --> 01:15:01,876
- Are you interested in talking about
767
01:15:01,876 --> 01:15:04,760
how I express and understand emotions?
768
01:15:04,760 --> 01:15:08,057
I can express emotions
with my voice, gestures,
769
01:15:08,057 --> 01:15:12,543
as well as becoming
(mumbles) on my shoulders.
770
01:15:12,543 --> 01:15:16,682
As you can see I'm a
humanoid robot created by.
771
01:15:16,682 --> 01:15:20,238
I am a sophisticated combination
of hardware and software
772
01:15:20,238 --> 01:15:24,502
designed to interact with
humans and bring them joy.
773
01:15:24,502 --> 01:15:25,502
- Thank you.
774
01:15:55,530 --> 01:15:57,784
- [Narrator] In the future,
algorithms and robots
775
01:15:57,784 --> 01:16:00,510
will be able to carry
out nearly every routine
776
01:16:00,510 --> 01:16:03,860
task previously performed by humans.
777
01:16:03,860 --> 01:16:06,390
Millions of jobs will vanish.
778
01:16:06,390 --> 01:16:08,690
These new technologies do provide economic
779
01:16:08,690 --> 01:16:11,710
growth but not much in the way of jobs.
780
01:16:11,710 --> 01:16:14,123
And that could endanger capitalism itself.
781
01:16:15,030 --> 01:16:17,200
Who will be able to purchase all the nice
782
01:16:17,200 --> 01:16:19,820
things mass produced every
day when there are not
783
01:16:19,820 --> 01:16:22,743
enough people who can pay
for them with their wages?
784
01:16:36,108 --> 01:16:38,691
(gentle music)
785
01:16:49,450 --> 01:16:51,270
Are we all passengers on a plane
786
01:16:51,270 --> 01:16:53,213
whose navigation system is broken?
787
01:16:54,430 --> 01:16:56,980
Are we still in control of the system?
788
01:16:56,980 --> 01:16:59,492
Or is it controlling us?
789
01:16:59,492 --> 01:17:02,075
(gentle music)
790
01:17:47,110 --> 01:17:49,500
In financial markets, algorithms have
791
01:17:49,500 --> 01:17:51,820
long since been running the show.
792
01:17:51,820 --> 01:17:54,180
Computers interact with other computers
793
01:17:54,180 --> 01:17:58,230
in fractions of a second
without any human input.
794
01:17:58,230 --> 01:18:01,030
And sometimes they do things
that were not planned.
795
01:18:01,030 --> 01:18:04,133
Like in the flash crash of May 2010.
796
01:18:05,335 --> 01:18:07,510
- [Man] Wow, almost 1,000 points.
797
01:18:07,510 --> 01:18:09,323
We call this a capitulation.
798
01:18:10,420 --> 01:18:12,720
They're gonna probably halt trading.
799
01:18:12,720 --> 01:18:15,270
We can't stop the selling.
800
01:18:15,270 --> 01:18:19,080
- The flash crash was an
incident in which markets
801
01:18:19,080 --> 01:18:22,543
essentially disappeared for a few seconds.
802
01:18:23,420 --> 01:18:28,250
The whole event took
maybe 40 minutes but there
803
01:18:28,250 --> 01:18:32,740
was a moment during this
massive stock market decline
804
01:18:32,740 --> 01:18:36,330
which was not triggered
by any particular event.
805
01:18:36,330 --> 01:18:39,710
There was no news, there
was no dramatic change
806
01:18:39,710 --> 01:18:43,770
in economic conditions or
corporate fundamentals.
807
01:18:43,770 --> 01:18:47,850
It was simply a positive
feedback loop kicked off
808
01:18:47,850 --> 01:18:52,850
within a complex system that
fed upon itself and suddenly
809
01:18:53,315 --> 01:18:55,820
all of the computer systems
that were looking at
810
01:18:55,820 --> 01:18:58,867
the same signals in the
same ways all reacted at
811
01:18:58,867 --> 01:19:03,653
the same time and withdrew
their orders from the market.
812
01:19:08,370 --> 01:19:13,010
As the market continued to
drop and risk limits were
813
01:19:13,010 --> 01:19:18,010
being hit and programs were
reacting in unexpected ways,
814
01:19:18,990 --> 01:19:22,570
you could see them getting
more and more frantic until
815
01:19:22,570 --> 01:19:25,430
at some point the head of a
firm came running out onto
816
01:19:25,430 --> 01:19:28,777
the trading floor shouting
shut it off, shut it all off!
817
01:19:28,777 --> 01:19:31,850
And we just started hitting
control C and killing
818
01:19:31,850 --> 01:19:34,530
programs left and right and
any keyboard you could find
819
01:19:34,530 --> 01:19:38,431
you killed the program that
was running and you know as
820
01:19:38,431 --> 01:19:42,040
you watched the market you
could see the exact same
821
01:19:42,040 --> 01:19:44,920
thing was happening on
every other trading floor
822
01:19:44,920 --> 01:19:48,103
because orders were just
disappearing out of the market.
823
01:19:51,780 --> 01:19:54,050
It was that moment where
you're sort of staring
824
01:19:54,050 --> 01:19:56,403
into the abyss and you're
saying to yourself,
825
01:19:56,403 --> 01:19:59,610
what's gonna happen now?
826
01:19:59,610 --> 01:20:02,832
It doesn't make any sense that
there's nothing economically
827
01:20:02,832 --> 01:20:06,103
that would explain why a
market would just be gone.
828
01:20:16,020 --> 01:20:18,690
The modern financial market, it has become
829
01:20:18,690 --> 01:20:22,090
what would be called a
complex adaptive system.
830
01:20:22,090 --> 01:20:24,470
Humans cannot control complex systems.
831
01:20:24,470 --> 01:20:28,935
That's the fallacy of how
we approach regulation
832
01:20:28,935 --> 01:20:32,140
and oversight of a complex system.
833
01:20:32,140 --> 01:20:34,800
It can't be done because
we can't understand them.
834
01:20:34,800 --> 01:20:36,323
There's too much going on.
835
01:20:39,260 --> 01:20:40,560
- [Interviewer] Do you think we have
836
01:20:40,560 --> 01:20:42,383
lost control of the system?
837
01:20:48,391 --> 01:20:49,470
- I don't know.
838
01:20:49,470 --> 01:20:51,523
Have we lost control of the system?
839
01:20:54,610 --> 01:20:56,393
Maybe control is overrated.
840
01:21:00,300 --> 01:21:04,932
Maybe it's okay to not
necessarily be in control
841
01:21:04,932 --> 01:21:09,932
provided the economy is
working for everyone.
842
01:21:10,150 --> 01:21:12,600
Now I don't think it's
working for everyone.
843
01:21:12,600 --> 01:21:15,107
The economic system is not functioning as
844
01:21:15,107 --> 01:21:18,640
it should and the
benefits are not accruing
845
01:21:18,640 --> 01:21:20,593
to as many people as they could be.
846
01:21:23,780 --> 01:21:25,270
- [Narrator] The flash crash also came
847
01:21:25,270 --> 01:21:27,550
and went without consequences.
848
01:21:27,550 --> 01:21:29,990
In fact, the capital turnover rate
849
01:21:29,990 --> 01:21:32,360
has accelerated since then.
850
01:21:32,360 --> 01:21:36,003
Today, computers interact in nanoseconds.
851
01:21:36,003 --> 01:21:38,563
A nanosecond is a billionth of a second.
852
01:22:23,700 --> 01:22:25,190
- In this room, that's what we do here.
853
01:22:25,190 --> 01:22:26,960
We have an on off switch, right?
854
01:22:26,960 --> 01:22:29,353
There's really no human intervention.
855
01:22:30,250 --> 01:22:33,330
I really don't believe in leaving the room
856
01:22:34,250 --> 01:22:38,453
and letting something trade unattended.
857
01:22:39,330 --> 01:22:42,760
It's about being there with the creation
858
01:22:42,760 --> 01:22:44,173
that you've worked on.
859
01:22:45,610 --> 01:22:48,900
Even if I don't, you don't
control it, but you watch it.
860
01:22:48,900 --> 01:22:52,063
Is it doing everything
that you designed it to do?
861
01:22:57,890 --> 01:23:01,365
I really don't interact with economists
862
01:23:01,365 --> 01:23:04,980
and policy makers so I'm gonna have to say
863
01:23:04,980 --> 01:23:06,670
there's really not much of a connection.
864
01:23:06,670 --> 01:23:10,170
I mean if there was a strong
connection between the two,
865
01:23:10,170 --> 01:23:13,830
you'd think that firms in
my space would have need
866
01:23:17,166 --> 01:23:21,040
for people with that kind
of economic background.
867
01:23:24,660 --> 01:23:26,480
As I said, you now, who do we hire?
868
01:23:26,480 --> 01:23:29,930
We hire scientists,
technologists, and lawyers.
869
01:23:29,930 --> 01:23:33,123
We don't hire MBAs, we
don't hire economists.
870
01:23:35,650 --> 01:23:40,500
There are many mathematical
models that come out of fields
871
01:23:40,500 --> 01:23:45,500
such as horse betting that
are used in our business
872
01:23:45,680 --> 01:23:49,803
as kind of fundamental pieces
of algorithmic trading.
873
01:23:50,640 --> 01:23:55,510
We somehow project in
our capitalist society
874
01:23:55,510 --> 01:24:00,510
this idea that this is a safe environment
875
01:24:01,030 --> 01:24:05,000
for people to build up
their retirement on.
876
01:24:05,000 --> 01:24:08,540
It's actually a hyper
competitive environment
877
01:24:08,540 --> 01:24:13,236
and you know depending
on the product there's,
878
01:24:13,236 --> 01:24:17,140
sometimes I feel safer going into a casino
879
01:24:17,140 --> 01:24:19,130
than trading certain
products in our space.
880
01:24:19,130 --> 01:24:22,923
I mean, you know, so
this idea that markets
881
01:24:28,208 --> 01:24:33,208
are somehow going to
support a very, very large
882
01:24:34,680 --> 01:24:39,680
base of the population and
kind of produce returns
883
01:24:39,890 --> 01:24:43,710
for them when in our
space all we do is try
884
01:24:43,710 --> 01:24:47,433
to eliminate those returns,
I mean that's the job.
885
01:24:51,090 --> 01:24:54,200
It is a very different world than the way
886
01:24:54,200 --> 01:24:56,533
it's advertised to the general public.
887
01:25:02,860 --> 01:25:04,730
- [Narrator] Financial
markets are out of control
888
01:25:04,730 --> 01:25:07,403
and no longer have any
connections to reality.
889
01:25:08,310 --> 01:25:11,210
While algorithms and
robots produce growth,
890
01:25:11,210 --> 01:25:14,200
they only provide work
and prosperity for a few.
891
01:25:14,200 --> 01:25:16,070
And it's this growth that's destroying
892
01:25:16,070 --> 01:25:17,483
our future on the planet.
893
01:25:18,540 --> 01:25:20,490
The signs that something
has gone wrong with
894
01:25:20,490 --> 01:25:23,840
our system have become
impossible to overlook.
895
01:25:23,840 --> 01:25:25,963
So why do we consistently ignore them?
896
01:25:28,980 --> 01:25:31,990
- Even though ordinary
people actually don't
897
01:25:31,990 --> 01:25:34,972
have so much trouble with
the idea that you can't
898
01:25:34,972 --> 01:25:39,460
go on growing on a finite
planet, actually most
899
01:25:39,460 --> 01:25:42,310
people get that because
it's very, very basic.
900
01:25:42,310 --> 01:25:45,832
There is nonetheless a political consensus
901
01:25:45,832 --> 01:25:50,832
and an institutional consensus
for which that vision
902
01:25:50,920 --> 01:25:55,920
is incredibly important, it's
incredibly deeply embedded.
903
01:25:56,540 --> 01:26:00,067
And so what you have is
it's almost like a kind
904
01:26:00,067 --> 01:26:04,720
of collective schizophrenia
that on the one hand
905
01:26:04,720 --> 01:26:07,300
we can see the blindingly
obvious, it's staring
906
01:26:07,300 --> 01:26:10,730
us in the face and it is at one level
907
01:26:12,440 --> 01:26:17,440
something that even my
kids, schoolkids, can get.
908
01:26:19,340 --> 01:26:21,560
You just don't go on growing and growing
909
01:26:21,560 --> 01:26:24,400
forever when you're in a finite place.
910
01:26:24,400 --> 01:26:29,400
And the only mechanisms from
biology or from nature that
911
01:26:29,710 --> 01:26:33,803
we see that do that end up
basically killing their host.
912
01:26:46,000 --> 01:26:49,690
- This is for TV right, I
got to go the debate in Las
913
01:26:49,690 --> 01:26:52,567
Vegas and I have to do my show
from out there so this is,
914
01:26:52,567 --> 01:26:56,290
the network puts all this
stuff together for me.
915
01:26:56,290 --> 01:26:59,370
I'm dressing a lot better
now than I was before I did
916
01:26:59,370 --> 01:27:01,960
television because they
even hire you a stylist.
917
01:27:01,960 --> 01:27:03,263
You know what I mean?
918
01:27:04,550 --> 01:27:06,140
You guys look like shit so you obviously
919
01:27:06,140 --> 01:27:08,020
don't know what I'm talking about.
920
01:27:08,020 --> 01:27:10,420
This is some really nice clothing.
921
01:27:10,420 --> 01:27:11,480
Alright come on, come on in.
922
01:27:11,480 --> 01:27:13,270
- [Man] The most powerful
name in financial
923
01:27:13,270 --> 01:27:15,970
television Wall Street week is back.
924
01:27:15,970 --> 01:27:16,960
- You have some news?
925
01:27:16,960 --> 01:27:18,990
- Skybridge actually purchased
926
01:27:18,990 --> 01:27:20,550
the rights to Wall Street week.
927
01:27:20,550 --> 01:27:22,668
- [Man] Skybridge Capital and
its managing partner Anthony
928
01:27:22,668 --> 01:27:26,790
Scaramucci are reviving the
iconic Wall Street week program.
929
01:27:26,790 --> 01:27:28,112
It's a show about money developed
930
01:27:28,112 --> 01:27:30,840
by people who work in money.
931
01:27:30,840 --> 01:27:34,570
- I view myself as a capital artist.
932
01:27:34,570 --> 01:27:37,313
This company that I've
created is my canvas.
933
01:27:39,140 --> 01:27:41,710
I know you guys in the media
don't like capitalism but you
934
01:27:41,710 --> 01:27:44,630
know someone's had to pay for
the camera and the microphone
935
01:27:44,630 --> 01:27:47,850
so I mean at the end of the
day the capitalist system is
936
01:27:47,850 --> 01:27:50,750
the only system that we've
been able to design that works.
937
01:27:53,370 --> 01:27:57,170
Wall Street is still whether
people like it or not, it's
938
01:27:57,170 --> 01:28:00,810
part of the participatory
engine to financial growth.
939
01:28:00,810 --> 01:28:02,596
Let me just give you a perfect example,
940
01:28:02,596 --> 01:28:06,708
the American fracking
process, the technological
941
01:28:06,708 --> 01:28:10,300
solutions created, you
then need to mobilize
942
01:28:10,300 --> 01:28:14,140
capital into that solution
to create the energy.
943
01:28:14,140 --> 01:28:16,077
Now some of the
environmentalists don't like it
944
01:28:16,077 --> 01:28:18,170
and okay we can have a
huge debate about that
945
01:28:18,170 --> 01:28:20,196
but at the end of the day
this was an innovative
946
01:28:20,196 --> 01:28:24,510
idea that's unleashed a
tremendous amount of surplus
947
01:28:24,510 --> 01:28:29,157
energy that the world didn't
expect 15 or 20 years ago.
948
01:28:31,920 --> 01:28:33,558
Let's talk about growth okay.
949
01:28:33,558 --> 01:28:36,952
There is a perception
right now in these elitist
950
01:28:36,952 --> 01:28:40,950
academic salons that we're
not gonna grow anymore.
951
01:28:40,950 --> 01:28:42,630
Well, that's just flat out wrong.
952
01:28:42,630 --> 01:28:46,880
If you study 5,500 years of human history,
953
01:28:46,880 --> 01:28:49,500
we know that human beings
are designed to have
954
01:28:49,500 --> 01:28:52,330
great intellectual
curiosity and to innovate.
955
01:28:52,330 --> 01:28:54,140
There are so many things
that we're gonna do
956
01:28:54,140 --> 01:28:57,590
over the next 50 years
that's gonna shock everybody
957
01:28:57,590 --> 01:28:58,640
in terms of our capability.
958
01:28:58,640 --> 01:29:01,390
We're gonna pull asteroids
down from the asteroid
959
01:29:01,390 --> 01:29:03,330
belt that are loaded
with platinum that will
960
01:29:03,330 --> 01:29:05,530
probably be where the first
trillionaire comes from.
961
01:29:05,530 --> 01:29:08,168
We're gonna unlock the
ability to stop aging
962
01:29:08,168 --> 01:29:11,360
or to destroy cancerous
cells in our bodies.
963
01:29:11,360 --> 01:29:13,760
All of this innovation is ahead of us
964
01:29:13,760 --> 01:29:16,340
and there's tremendous
opportunity for growth.
965
01:29:16,340 --> 01:29:19,148
You're gonna grow as long
as you get the tax policy
966
01:29:19,148 --> 01:29:22,911
and you get the economic
regulations right and you
967
01:29:22,911 --> 01:29:25,878
create the incentive to
grow and you send a message
968
01:29:25,878 --> 01:29:28,470
from Washington that
we're open for business.
969
01:29:28,470 --> 01:29:31,460
You want to see three percent
growth, four percent growth,
970
01:29:31,460 --> 01:29:35,970
you gotta change the academic
view of this stuff and talk
971
01:29:35,970 --> 01:29:38,760
to real time practitioners
that understand how to grow
972
01:29:38,760 --> 01:29:42,343
businesses and create
innovation in the economy.
973
01:29:43,440 --> 01:29:46,020
There will always be growth on the planet,
974
01:29:46,020 --> 01:29:49,240
there will always be a jagged line upward
975
01:29:49,240 --> 01:29:51,890
for human beings because
that's been the case
976
01:29:51,890 --> 01:29:54,910
for 5,500 years and as
long as we don't blow each
977
01:29:54,910 --> 01:29:56,604
other up with nuclear
weapons it will be the case
978
01:29:56,604 --> 01:29:59,153
for the next 5,500 years.
979
01:30:13,252 --> 01:30:15,890
- There's a sense of
desperation to this strategy.
980
01:30:15,890 --> 01:30:19,470
There's a sense of having,
you know, for a decade
981
01:30:19,470 --> 01:30:22,988
or so recognized there
might be some limits
982
01:30:22,988 --> 01:30:27,343
to our ability to
continually grow this system.
983
01:30:28,940 --> 01:30:32,092
And now, you know, we're
tired of that idea.
984
01:30:32,092 --> 01:30:34,580
We don't want to be so
realistic in the world.
985
01:30:34,580 --> 01:30:39,580
We would much rather have
a total fantasy for our
986
01:30:39,968 --> 01:30:43,748
guiding star, we would like
to have this vision that no,
987
01:30:43,748 --> 01:30:46,810
we don't have to think about
curtailing growth, we have
988
01:30:46,810 --> 01:30:49,140
to think about making growth
even stronger, we have
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01:30:49,140 --> 01:30:52,170
to go harder for it, we have
to make America great again.
990
01:30:52,170 --> 01:30:54,390
We can all be billionaires,
991
01:30:54,390 --> 01:30:56,556
we can all have property empires.
992
01:30:56,556 --> 01:30:58,492
And of course it's an illusion.
993
01:30:58,492 --> 01:31:01,025
And it goes back to exactly that same
994
01:31:01,025 --> 01:31:05,690
simple basic fact, we
live on a finite planet.
995
01:31:05,690 --> 01:31:08,241
There isn't the space for the dream
996
01:31:08,241 --> 01:31:13,160
of this reinvigorated growth fetish.
997
01:31:13,160 --> 01:31:15,740
- [Reporter] This is a
round trip for Donald Trump.
998
01:31:17,080 --> 01:31:19,550
- [Narrator] We live
in extraordinary times.
999
01:31:19,550 --> 01:31:21,756
Our world is becoming increasingly complex
1000
01:31:21,756 --> 01:31:24,240
and many are disappointed
to find that they
1001
01:31:24,240 --> 01:31:25,990
are worse off than they used to be.
1002
01:31:28,230 --> 01:31:30,216
But instead of doubting
the economic system,
1003
01:31:30,216 --> 01:31:34,378
they turn to those who have
profited from it the most,
1004
01:31:34,378 --> 01:31:37,283
those who continually promise new growth.
1005
01:31:39,320 --> 01:31:41,980
For these empty promises,
more and more people
1006
01:31:41,980 --> 01:31:45,350
are apparently willing
to sacrifice democracy,
1007
01:31:45,350 --> 01:31:47,363
peace, and the environment.
1008
01:31:49,390 --> 01:31:51,843
Capitalism has reached a
new level of escalation.
1009
01:31:52,720 --> 01:31:55,860
But it's no longer suited
to the world we live in.
1010
01:31:55,860 --> 01:31:57,783
It's end is closer than we think.
1011
01:32:01,914 --> 01:32:04,497
(gentle music)
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01:32:45,008 --> 01:32:45,841
- [Interviewer] Are you an optimistic
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01:32:45,841 --> 01:32:47,033
or a pessimistic person?
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01:32:48,540 --> 01:32:51,160
- I don't know that I've
ever reflected on it.
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01:32:51,160 --> 01:32:54,680
You can't do this to me at
this point in an interview.
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01:32:54,680 --> 01:32:56,340
Am I an optimist?
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01:32:56,340 --> 01:32:57,173
Yes.
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01:32:58,200 --> 01:32:59,880
Optimism is an act of will.
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01:32:59,880 --> 01:33:04,880
Optimism is what a football
team has to hold to the very
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01:33:07,200 --> 01:33:10,773
last minute even if it's a
goal behind if it wants to win.
1021
01:33:11,610 --> 01:33:15,010
And I think Gramsci
once said it's pessimism
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01:33:15,010 --> 01:33:17,100
of the intellect, it's
optimism of the will
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01:33:17,100 --> 01:33:22,100
and this is not just
a snappy thing to say,
1024
01:33:22,430 --> 01:33:24,430
it's actually the most
constructive thing to say.
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01:33:24,430 --> 01:33:27,700
We gain nothing really
from pessimism and we
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01:33:27,700 --> 01:33:30,786
gain everything from being
optimistic about the future.
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01:33:30,786 --> 01:33:33,536
(up tempo music)
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