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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Downloaded from YTS.MX 2 00:00:04,732 --> 00:00:07,899 (uptempo organ music) 3 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.MX 4 00:00:14,506 --> 00:00:16,354 - [Jeremiah] Every group has a story 5 00:00:16,354 --> 00:00:18,605 about their religious faith, 6 00:00:18,605 --> 00:00:22,219 but some stories are undeniably unique. 7 00:00:22,219 --> 00:00:24,235 ♫ Traveling on 8 00:00:24,235 --> 00:00:25,997 - [Preacher] Every time you get a chance, 9 00:00:25,997 --> 00:00:28,414 spend some time in this book. 10 00:00:29,902 --> 00:00:31,149 (congregation cheers) 11 00:00:31,149 --> 00:00:35,316 Every time you get a chance, show up for Bible study. 12 00:00:37,044 --> 00:00:40,794 Show up for Sunday school, and you need both. 13 00:00:42,723 --> 00:00:43,556 - [Woman] Hi. 14 00:00:43,556 --> 00:00:44,389 - Hi. 15 00:00:44,389 --> 00:00:45,507 - [Woman] So I'm at the club Saturday night 16 00:00:45,507 --> 00:00:47,821 with my black friends, dancing, having a good time, 17 00:00:47,821 --> 00:00:50,004 and then the next day, Sunday morning, 18 00:00:50,004 --> 00:00:51,640 they're always running to church. 19 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:54,529 Why is it Saturday nights, they're always partying it up 20 00:00:54,529 --> 00:00:57,012 and then running to church Sunday morning? 21 00:00:57,012 --> 00:00:58,394 ("Freedom From Religion" by Dan Barker 22 00:00:58,394 --> 00:01:01,800 ♫ The freedom of religion 23 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:04,632 ♫ Some people say 24 00:01:05,522 --> 00:01:09,689 ♫ Is all the founding fathers meant 25 00:01:13,183 --> 00:01:16,920 ♫ But there can be no freedom 26 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:19,920 ♫ No freedom at all 27 00:01:21,173 --> 00:01:25,256 ♫ Without the freedom to dissent 28 00:01:28,735 --> 00:01:32,364 ♫ Freedom from religion 29 00:01:32,364 --> 00:01:35,063 ♫ Is freedom from fear 30 00:01:35,063 --> 00:01:39,229 ♫ It's the liberty to think just as I please 31 00:01:43,503 --> 00:01:47,283 ♫ I wouldn't trade it for anything 32 00:01:47,283 --> 00:01:49,912 ♫ Not for streets of gold for the praise 33 00:01:49,912 --> 00:01:50,745 - Another one of the questions 34 00:01:50,745 --> 00:01:54,268 that people ask me all the time is how did you make it? 35 00:01:54,268 --> 00:01:55,202 How did you make it? 36 00:01:55,202 --> 00:01:58,952 - He can walk on water, turn water into wine! 37 00:02:00,593 --> 00:02:03,057 - It was nothing but the grace of God. 38 00:02:03,057 --> 00:02:05,056 - Um, I have to thank God. 39 00:02:05,056 --> 00:02:07,801 - Nothing but the grace of God. 40 00:02:07,801 --> 00:02:11,427 - First, let me bless the blesser, and that's God. 41 00:02:11,427 --> 00:02:14,955 - I want to thank my God for ordering my steps. 42 00:02:14,955 --> 00:02:17,445 - First of all, I'd like to thank God, 43 00:02:17,445 --> 00:02:19,164 you know what I'm sayin', once again. 44 00:02:19,164 --> 00:02:20,525 - Thank you, God. 45 00:02:20,525 --> 00:02:23,692 - Until I got a relationship with God. 46 00:02:25,061 --> 00:02:26,588 - And first and foremost, I just gotta thank God 47 00:02:26,588 --> 00:02:27,541 for this opportunity. 48 00:02:27,541 --> 00:02:30,772 - First of all, I wanna thank God. 49 00:02:30,772 --> 00:02:33,667 - First, I'd like to thank God. 50 00:02:33,667 --> 00:02:34,500 - Yeah. 51 00:02:34,500 --> 00:02:36,036 - Importantly, I wanna thank my lord and savior, 52 00:02:36,036 --> 00:02:37,395 Jesus Christ, because without Him, 53 00:02:37,395 --> 00:02:38,683 none of it would be possible. (crowd cheers) 54 00:02:38,683 --> 00:02:41,610 - First and always first in my life, 55 00:02:41,610 --> 00:02:43,091 I'd like to thank my Heavenly Father, 56 00:02:43,091 --> 00:02:45,989 my lord and savior Jesus for blessing me so. 57 00:02:45,989 --> 00:02:48,483 - God is good, God Is good. 58 00:02:48,483 --> 00:02:50,983 - I just wanna say, thank God. 59 00:02:52,981 --> 00:02:54,926 - Who said God is not good? 60 00:02:54,926 --> 00:02:56,942 God is real good to me. 61 00:02:56,942 --> 00:02:59,966 (crowd applauds and cheers) 62 00:02:59,966 --> 00:03:03,799 (midtempo instrumental music) 63 00:03:12,786 --> 00:03:15,472 - This is my hometown, where it all started. 64 00:03:15,472 --> 00:03:18,234 It's where I got my first taste of religion. 65 00:03:18,234 --> 00:03:19,843 This my old church right here. 66 00:03:19,843 --> 00:03:21,926 Tri-Stone Baptist Church. 67 00:03:22,891 --> 00:03:24,618 It's no longer called that anymore, 68 00:03:24,618 --> 00:03:26,507 but it was called Tri-Stone Baptist Church. 69 00:03:26,507 --> 00:03:30,174 And of course, I was baptized here in blood, 70 00:03:31,347 --> 00:03:34,347 as they say, washed free of my sins. 71 00:03:35,396 --> 00:03:37,565 If I didn't make it to church on Sunday, 72 00:03:37,565 --> 00:03:39,891 it usually wasn't that big of a deal. 73 00:03:39,891 --> 00:03:42,075 But that all changed when I moved 74 00:03:42,075 --> 00:03:44,341 to what's called The Bible Belt. 75 00:03:44,341 --> 00:03:46,458 People would ask me what church I attended 76 00:03:46,458 --> 00:03:49,101 before they'd ask me my name. 77 00:03:49,101 --> 00:03:51,621 It seemed like everyone I met was trying to recruit me 78 00:03:51,621 --> 00:03:54,869 to join their church, and like most cities 79 00:03:54,869 --> 00:03:56,853 with a significant number of black people, 80 00:03:56,853 --> 00:03:59,437 there were churches everywhere. 81 00:04:49,776 --> 00:04:53,026 (midtempo organ music) 82 00:04:56,383 --> 00:04:59,769 There are over 85,000 predominantly black churches 83 00:04:59,769 --> 00:05:01,367 in the United States, 84 00:05:01,367 --> 00:05:03,185 an astronomically high number 85 00:05:03,185 --> 00:05:07,964 for people that represent roughly 12% of the population. 86 00:05:07,964 --> 00:05:10,820 - Now, certainly when you look back to scholarship 87 00:05:10,820 --> 00:05:14,987 by people like Benjamin E. Mays in the 1930s, 40s, 88 00:05:16,515 --> 00:05:19,160 Dr. Mays raised this issue. 89 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:21,314 Is the black community over churched? 90 00:05:21,314 --> 00:05:25,387 Are there too many churches in black communities? 91 00:05:25,387 --> 00:05:26,970 And I think he was looking at it particularly 92 00:05:26,970 --> 00:05:29,025 with this kind of calculus in mind. 93 00:05:29,025 --> 00:05:31,226 Are there more of these institutions 94 00:05:31,226 --> 00:05:33,643 than we can afford to support 95 00:05:34,601 --> 00:05:37,192 at the same time we have such great poverty 96 00:05:37,192 --> 00:05:39,850 in the African American community? 97 00:05:39,850 --> 00:05:42,600 - Why are there so many churches, 98 00:05:43,617 --> 00:05:46,540 and why are we doing so badly as black people, 99 00:05:46,540 --> 00:05:49,956 as a group, despite the extreme number of churches, 100 00:05:49,956 --> 00:05:51,614 and do you think there is a correlation 101 00:05:51,614 --> 00:05:55,697 between our high praise and our low productivity? 102 00:06:02,512 --> 00:06:03,680 - Hm, Now let me see. 103 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:06,680 This is a very challenging question. 104 00:06:09,416 --> 00:06:11,335 - [Jeremiah] The church has been described as a hospital 105 00:06:11,335 --> 00:06:13,926 for sick people, so what, then, 106 00:06:13,926 --> 00:06:17,372 does an abundance of churches actually indicate? 107 00:06:17,372 --> 00:06:19,746 Are there so many churches in black neighborhoods 108 00:06:19,746 --> 00:06:21,930 because the people are sick, 109 00:06:21,930 --> 00:06:26,914 or the people sick because there are so many churches? 110 00:06:26,914 --> 00:06:29,785 - Black people, while we've had a lot of suffering, 111 00:06:29,785 --> 00:06:32,488 and had a lot of heartache and trial, 112 00:06:32,488 --> 00:06:35,960 we've had two institutions that have really sustained us, 113 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:37,345 of course being the church, 114 00:06:37,345 --> 00:06:40,240 and the institution, the college. 115 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:41,463 Think about it, 116 00:06:41,463 --> 00:06:44,304 where would black folk be without the church? 117 00:06:44,304 --> 00:06:48,408 Where would black people be without our faith in God? 118 00:06:48,408 --> 00:06:49,466 - [Jeremiah] Good question. 119 00:06:49,466 --> 00:06:52,128 But to answer that question, we must first establish 120 00:06:52,128 --> 00:06:54,704 where black people actually are. 121 00:06:54,704 --> 00:06:57,142 - Black folk in America are in a world of trouble. 122 00:06:57,142 --> 00:07:00,319 Anybody tells you that black folk are progressing in America 123 00:07:00,319 --> 00:07:01,622 is lyin' to you. 124 00:07:01,622 --> 00:07:04,478 You've been intentionally misled and misdirected. 125 00:07:04,478 --> 00:07:07,375 You've been sent down the wrong road. 126 00:07:07,375 --> 00:07:10,451 We are exactly, exactly where we were 127 00:07:10,451 --> 00:07:12,680 as black folk in this country, 128 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:14,711 we're exactly where we were in 1860 129 00:07:14,711 --> 00:07:17,102 on the eve of the Civil War. 130 00:07:17,102 --> 00:07:21,166 You have not moved, not one iota, in 140 years. 131 00:07:21,166 --> 00:07:23,055 What you're doing is enjoying the fruits 132 00:07:23,055 --> 00:07:25,138 from the social illusion. 133 00:07:26,189 --> 00:07:28,200 (crowd cheers) 134 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:31,373 On 1860, on the eve of the Civil War, in this country, 135 00:07:31,373 --> 00:07:35,540 you only had about 287,000 black people that were free 136 00:07:36,850 --> 00:07:38,795 out of almost 4 1/2 million. 137 00:07:38,795 --> 00:07:42,883 The other 4 1/2 million were enslaved all over America. 138 00:07:42,883 --> 00:07:44,800 Only 287,000 were free. 139 00:07:47,766 --> 00:07:51,716 And yet, out of those 287,000 black people, 140 00:07:51,716 --> 00:07:55,883 they had succeeded in acquiring one half of one percent 141 00:07:57,260 --> 00:07:59,134 of the nation's wealth. 142 00:07:59,134 --> 00:08:01,884 Now here we are, 140 years later, 143 00:08:04,215 --> 00:08:06,798 in the richest nation on Earth. 144 00:08:08,232 --> 00:08:10,965 140 years later, you still own and control 145 00:08:10,965 --> 00:08:14,717 one half of one percent of this nation's wealth. 146 00:08:14,717 --> 00:08:18,884 - Do you consider many churches to be a gross misuse of time 147 00:08:20,902 --> 00:08:25,252 because on Sunday is where the masses of our people 148 00:08:25,252 --> 00:08:27,582 are held at bay for hours. 149 00:08:27,582 --> 00:08:30,576 We're being Petered and Pauled, David and Danieled, 150 00:08:30,576 --> 00:08:34,159 Josephed and Joshuaed, every single Sunday. 151 00:08:35,183 --> 00:08:36,948 And don't you think that is the platform 152 00:08:36,948 --> 00:08:40,253 to teach how to own your own business, 153 00:08:40,253 --> 00:08:42,717 how to support your communities, 154 00:08:42,717 --> 00:08:45,384 how to practice group economics? 155 00:08:47,156 --> 00:08:49,706 - Well, I certainly think that that is 156 00:08:49,706 --> 00:08:54,227 a part of what the gospel message should be about. 157 00:08:54,227 --> 00:08:58,218 Certainly, that is what my father believed, 158 00:08:58,218 --> 00:09:01,801 but that was not what all pastors believed. 159 00:09:02,672 --> 00:09:05,203 I think you have many churches 160 00:09:05,203 --> 00:09:08,536 who are fulfilling those missions today. 161 00:09:09,530 --> 00:09:11,337 No where near enough. 162 00:09:11,337 --> 00:09:12,498 - [Jeremiah] Why is it, 163 00:09:12,498 --> 00:09:14,888 despite the excessive number of churches, 164 00:09:14,888 --> 00:09:17,008 and the demonstrative love for God, 165 00:09:17,008 --> 00:09:20,045 are the masses of black people quickly becoming 166 00:09:20,045 --> 00:09:21,962 a permanent undercaste? 167 00:09:23,222 --> 00:09:26,552 Why are blacks the most church-going group in America 168 00:09:26,552 --> 00:09:30,599 and the least likely to question their faith? 169 00:09:30,599 --> 00:09:34,432 (rhythmic instrumental music) 170 00:09:43,849 --> 00:09:45,305 Oh what are we praying about? 171 00:09:45,305 --> 00:09:48,538 Are we praying that the group succeeds? 172 00:09:48,538 --> 00:09:49,371 Group success? 173 00:09:49,371 --> 00:09:50,961 Are we praying for individual stuff? 174 00:09:50,961 --> 00:09:52,809 You know, I want my car, I want my house, 175 00:09:52,809 --> 00:09:55,564 I want personal blessings. 176 00:09:55,564 --> 00:09:57,690 What's going on with that dynamic of prayer? 177 00:09:57,690 --> 00:10:00,858 Why are we amongst the most praising people, 178 00:10:00,858 --> 00:10:02,258 but yet we seem to be on the bottom 179 00:10:02,258 --> 00:10:04,591 of so many areas in society? 180 00:10:06,328 --> 00:10:07,425 - That's a very good point that you make. 181 00:10:07,425 --> 00:10:09,425 Are prayers being heard? 182 00:10:10,347 --> 00:10:13,682 Is God hearing the prayers of the black community, 183 00:10:13,682 --> 00:10:15,754 praying for better health, 184 00:10:15,754 --> 00:10:17,852 praying for better economic viability, 185 00:10:17,852 --> 00:10:21,171 praying for our young people to find their way. 186 00:10:21,171 --> 00:10:23,478 This might sound absurd, 187 00:10:23,478 --> 00:10:25,173 but if it comes down to the evidence 188 00:10:25,173 --> 00:10:28,126 of the prayers being answered, 189 00:10:28,126 --> 00:10:32,356 it appears that God speaks Spanish in Los Angeles. 190 00:10:32,356 --> 00:10:35,606 (midtempo piano music) 191 00:10:37,812 --> 00:10:40,729 - Most of our churches are full of, 192 00:10:42,339 --> 00:10:44,922 are largely women congregating. 193 00:10:46,102 --> 00:10:50,269 I mean, they're probably five, six women to every one man, 194 00:10:51,130 --> 00:10:53,213 so part of the problem is 195 00:10:54,292 --> 00:10:57,209 there's not enough male engagement. 196 00:10:58,294 --> 00:11:01,348 - I think that these preachers 197 00:11:01,348 --> 00:11:04,915 know who their target audience is, 198 00:11:04,915 --> 00:11:08,154 they know that, especially for example, for women 199 00:11:08,154 --> 00:11:12,003 and for the elderly, they're banking on them 200 00:11:12,003 --> 00:11:14,773 being more caught into their emotions, 201 00:11:14,773 --> 00:11:16,647 especially for black women 202 00:11:16,647 --> 00:11:18,301 with them buying into the statistics 203 00:11:18,301 --> 00:11:20,735 about how there are no good black men. 204 00:11:20,735 --> 00:11:24,237 - All the single ladies I know who are watching this program 205 00:11:24,237 --> 00:11:27,237 have made a list of the perfect guy. 206 00:11:29,236 --> 00:11:32,133 Now, Kim, have you made a list? 207 00:11:32,133 --> 00:11:33,044 - I have made a list. 208 00:11:33,044 --> 00:11:34,175 - Okay, all right. - Yes, I have. 209 00:11:34,175 --> 00:11:36,028 - So you're just like everybody else, right? 210 00:11:36,028 --> 00:11:36,861 - Yes. 211 00:11:36,861 --> 00:11:37,969 - And what's on the list? 212 00:11:37,969 --> 00:11:39,741 - Well, most importantly, most importantly, 213 00:11:39,741 --> 00:11:41,014 is he's gotta be man of God. 214 00:11:41,014 --> 00:11:42,314 - Okay, of course. 215 00:11:42,314 --> 00:11:43,506 - One who is in love with God, 216 00:11:43,506 --> 00:11:46,082 one who's a prayer, someone who prays a God 217 00:11:46,082 --> 00:11:47,507 on a daily basis. 218 00:11:47,507 --> 00:11:48,413 - [Interviewer] Right. 219 00:11:48,413 --> 00:11:51,692 - One who puts God first in his life. 220 00:11:51,692 --> 00:11:52,574 - Okay. 221 00:11:52,574 --> 00:11:55,781 - You know, one who is in ministry, working in the kingdom. 222 00:11:55,781 --> 00:11:56,614 - Right. 223 00:11:56,614 --> 00:11:57,879 - So basically, he's gotta be a Christian man 224 00:11:57,879 --> 00:11:59,417 all the way around. 225 00:11:59,417 --> 00:12:00,896 - The church preys on women. 226 00:12:00,896 --> 00:12:02,859 I mean, women are still, I mean, 227 00:12:02,859 --> 00:12:07,018 sexism is still alive and well, not only in this country 228 00:12:07,018 --> 00:12:08,795 but throughout the world. 229 00:12:08,795 --> 00:12:11,962 It's again, one of those subtle things 230 00:12:13,007 --> 00:12:15,232 that we've kind of become accustomed to, 231 00:12:15,232 --> 00:12:17,390 and I think it's almost accepted. 232 00:12:17,390 --> 00:12:19,014 Like, well, I don't have the best life now, 233 00:12:19,014 --> 00:12:22,302 and instead of trying to do things to make it better, 234 00:12:22,302 --> 00:12:25,292 I'm just going to pray my way into Heaven when I die 235 00:12:25,292 --> 00:12:27,754 so that I have a better life in my afterlife. 236 00:12:27,754 --> 00:12:30,050 I think, my main thing is education. 237 00:12:30,050 --> 00:12:31,842 I still think a lot of these things, 238 00:12:31,842 --> 00:12:34,981 whether it be racism, sexism, religion, 239 00:12:34,981 --> 00:12:36,325 it's based on ignorance. 240 00:12:36,325 --> 00:12:38,960 A lot of, I mean, churches are filled with women, 241 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:40,752 but it's also filled with a lot of women 242 00:12:40,752 --> 00:12:42,235 that are ignorant to the Bible. 243 00:12:42,235 --> 00:12:44,501 - Black women are the single most religious demographic 244 00:12:44,501 --> 00:12:46,125 in the United States. 245 00:12:46,125 --> 00:12:48,212 Yet we are the bottom of the totem pole 246 00:12:48,212 --> 00:12:52,426 on practically every measure of quality of life 247 00:12:52,426 --> 00:12:53,755 if you look at financial health, physical health, 248 00:12:53,755 --> 00:12:56,275 emotional health, all of these areas, 249 00:12:56,275 --> 00:13:00,378 and of course, one of the premises of Christianity 250 00:13:00,378 --> 00:13:04,336 is that the believer will live a prosperous, healthy life. 251 00:13:04,336 --> 00:13:05,665 ("Squared" by Greydon Square) 252 00:13:05,665 --> 00:13:08,036 ♫ Hey yo 253 00:13:08,036 --> 00:13:10,960 ♫ There was once a time 254 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:14,293 ♫ When everybody believed in 255 00:13:14,293 --> 00:13:16,421 ♫ At least some form of God 256 00:13:16,421 --> 00:13:19,526 ♫ And religion ruled the world 257 00:13:19,526 --> 00:13:22,599 ♫ It was called the Dark Ages 258 00:13:22,599 --> 00:13:25,136 ♫ Look 259 00:13:25,136 --> 00:13:28,231 - [Jeremiah] Despite the misogyny, nepotism, 260 00:13:28,231 --> 00:13:30,583 and irrational content within the Bible, 261 00:13:30,583 --> 00:13:33,002 there is one thing that most blacks are taught 262 00:13:33,002 --> 00:13:34,335 at an early age. 263 00:13:36,407 --> 00:13:38,382 - You can't question God. 264 00:13:38,382 --> 00:13:41,213 God do things for a reason. 265 00:13:41,213 --> 00:13:43,988 Okay, he do things for a reason. 266 00:13:43,988 --> 00:13:46,325 - [Jeremiah] Traditionally, in most black homes, 267 00:13:46,325 --> 00:13:48,132 free thinking was limited, 268 00:13:48,132 --> 00:13:51,012 especially regarding matters of religion. 269 00:13:51,012 --> 00:13:53,613 Questioning the Bible or the existence 270 00:13:53,613 --> 00:13:56,193 of an all-seeing, all-knowing God 271 00:13:56,193 --> 00:13:59,063 could result in a blow to the head. 272 00:13:59,063 --> 00:14:00,897 - You don't have the opportunity to be skeptical 273 00:14:00,897 --> 00:14:02,005 in a lot of households, 274 00:14:02,005 --> 00:14:04,702 because it's just not open to it. 275 00:14:04,702 --> 00:14:08,869 You know, you see God as the big black woman with the belt. 276 00:14:09,971 --> 00:14:13,163 That's what God is to most black people. 277 00:14:13,163 --> 00:14:14,757 Is a woman with a belt. 278 00:14:14,757 --> 00:14:16,086 - I'm gonna be a doctor. 279 00:14:16,086 --> 00:14:19,078 And everybody around here better understand that. 280 00:14:19,078 --> 00:14:21,462 - Sure, she gonna be a doctor honey, God willing. 281 00:14:21,462 --> 00:14:23,794 God hasn't got a thing to do with it. 282 00:14:23,794 --> 00:14:25,586 Lacey, it's all a matter of ideas, 283 00:14:25,586 --> 00:14:28,864 and God is just one idea that I don't accept. 284 00:14:28,864 --> 00:14:31,631 (dark ominous music) 285 00:14:31,631 --> 00:14:33,818 (slap smacks) 286 00:14:33,818 --> 00:14:36,338 - What happens with us, is we're young children, 287 00:14:36,338 --> 00:14:37,626 when we're three and four years old 288 00:14:37,626 --> 00:14:40,400 or even earlier, we're told about God, 289 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:41,729 we're told we have to believe, 290 00:14:41,729 --> 00:14:43,842 we're told that if we don't believe, 291 00:14:43,842 --> 00:14:45,720 we'll be ostracized from our families, 292 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:48,266 and so you really don't have much of a choice. 293 00:14:48,266 --> 00:14:51,167 Culturally, you are compelled to believe. 294 00:14:51,167 --> 00:14:53,265 - Our culture is heavily tied to our religion, 295 00:14:53,265 --> 00:14:55,768 so questioning God, it's questioning black culture, 296 00:14:55,768 --> 00:14:57,816 I think, I think that's how it's seen, 297 00:14:57,816 --> 00:15:00,138 or it's spitting on your ancestors 298 00:15:00,138 --> 00:15:03,263 who had to go through various struggles 299 00:15:03,263 --> 00:15:05,544 to get you to where you are now, 300 00:15:05,544 --> 00:15:07,041 so nobody wants to question, 301 00:15:07,041 --> 00:15:09,322 and a lot of blacks relied on faith, 302 00:15:09,322 --> 00:15:13,130 or arguably, a lot of blacks supposedly relied on faith 303 00:15:13,130 --> 00:15:15,777 to overcome these struggles. 304 00:15:15,777 --> 00:15:18,226 So I think a lot of black people 305 00:15:18,226 --> 00:15:20,496 are still holding on to this tradition of the church 306 00:15:20,496 --> 00:15:22,311 being the center of the community, 307 00:15:22,311 --> 00:15:25,017 and nobody wants to say hey, wait a minute, 308 00:15:25,017 --> 00:15:28,403 did we really need that building to do what we're doing? 309 00:15:28,403 --> 00:15:32,026 - This church can only be used as a meeting place only. 310 00:15:32,026 --> 00:15:34,661 This is the reason why you in church, 311 00:15:34,661 --> 00:15:37,685 having these meetings, to try to figure out 312 00:15:37,685 --> 00:15:40,185 how to appease your oppressor, 313 00:15:42,341 --> 00:15:45,841 how to get some type of freedom and relief 314 00:15:47,220 --> 00:15:48,603 from this oppression, 315 00:15:48,603 --> 00:15:51,226 and slavery from your oppressor. 316 00:15:51,226 --> 00:15:55,573 I can only say that church was a good place to meet. 317 00:15:55,573 --> 00:15:57,606 - I think the Civil Rights Movement found a home 318 00:15:57,606 --> 00:16:01,005 in black churches because it was a safe place, 319 00:16:01,005 --> 00:16:03,516 maybe the only safe place to congregate. 320 00:16:03,516 --> 00:16:06,596 - When many want to think and glorify 321 00:16:06,596 --> 00:16:07,727 The Civil Rights Movement 322 00:16:07,727 --> 00:16:09,407 as the movement of the black church, 323 00:16:09,407 --> 00:16:12,939 the reality is, is that most of the black churches 324 00:16:12,939 --> 00:16:15,638 did not participate in the movement as such 325 00:16:15,638 --> 00:16:19,293 that Dr. King and the Civil Rights Leadership 326 00:16:19,293 --> 00:16:22,007 could only count on two hands, really, 327 00:16:22,007 --> 00:16:25,132 the number of churches they could absolutely count on. 328 00:16:25,132 --> 00:16:27,764 - You cannot state unequivocally 329 00:16:27,764 --> 00:16:29,653 that there's been anything else in this world 330 00:16:29,653 --> 00:16:32,156 that has helped black people more than the church. 331 00:16:32,156 --> 00:16:33,165 - [Man] And their faith in God. 332 00:16:33,165 --> 00:16:34,398 - It cannot be. 333 00:16:34,398 --> 00:16:38,565 Every known leader has come of some type of house of prayer, 334 00:16:39,468 --> 00:16:41,342 whether it's Elijah Mohammed, 335 00:16:41,342 --> 00:16:45,490 whether it's all the many preachers and pastors that we have 336 00:16:45,490 --> 00:16:46,746 all come out of them. 337 00:16:46,746 --> 00:16:48,977 Harriet Tubman, out of church, all these people knew, 338 00:16:48,977 --> 00:16:51,930 had a deep faith in God, and went to church. 339 00:16:51,930 --> 00:16:54,704 - We have to be able to separate the church from religion. 340 00:16:54,704 --> 00:16:56,037 You can do that. 341 00:16:57,573 --> 00:16:59,182 The church was a building 342 00:16:59,182 --> 00:17:01,489 where we were able to come together, 343 00:17:01,489 --> 00:17:04,321 we were able to disseminate ideas, 344 00:17:05,327 --> 00:17:07,887 we were able to, it was an area 345 00:17:07,887 --> 00:17:09,863 where oftentimes we may be left alone. 346 00:17:09,863 --> 00:17:12,144 It's an are where we were kind of coming together 347 00:17:12,144 --> 00:17:14,944 to combat a lot of social injustices. 348 00:17:14,944 --> 00:17:16,374 You don't need the whole God part. 349 00:17:16,374 --> 00:17:18,823 And to me, and when someone says that, 350 00:17:18,823 --> 00:17:21,496 well, I mean, how incompetent do you think blacks are, 351 00:17:21,496 --> 00:17:25,470 that we wouldn't be able to say, you know, 352 00:17:25,470 --> 00:17:28,500 I don't wanna be treated like subhuman. 353 00:17:28,500 --> 00:17:32,655 I want to be treated equal to those that are beating me, 354 00:17:32,655 --> 00:17:35,076 not beat anyone, at least be a member of society. 355 00:17:35,076 --> 00:17:37,598 You do not need a god to be able to say 356 00:17:37,598 --> 00:17:38,901 I don't want to be beat every day. 357 00:17:38,901 --> 00:17:43,366 I won't want my wife being killed or raped or whatever 358 00:17:43,366 --> 00:17:44,199 in front of me. 359 00:17:44,199 --> 00:17:45,356 You don't need religion for that, 360 00:17:45,356 --> 00:17:47,723 you need humanity, maybe? 361 00:17:47,723 --> 00:17:50,355 But you definitely don't need a god for that. 362 00:17:50,355 --> 00:17:52,793 And on the flip side, for a god to allow that, 363 00:17:52,793 --> 00:17:56,293 why would you still be accepting of a god? 364 00:17:57,675 --> 00:18:00,745 - [Jeremiah] But rejecting the notion of an almighty God 365 00:18:00,745 --> 00:18:03,754 perceived to be the creator of all things 366 00:18:03,754 --> 00:18:06,401 is unthinkable for most people. 367 00:18:06,401 --> 00:18:10,625 Believers see god as an inextricable presence in their lives 368 00:18:10,625 --> 00:18:14,658 while others see things quite differently. 369 00:18:14,658 --> 00:18:17,319 - Well God's an imaginary friend for grown ups. 370 00:18:17,319 --> 00:18:18,486 - God is love. 371 00:18:19,729 --> 00:18:23,896 - This vehicle houses my eternal in-dwelling spirit. 372 00:18:25,527 --> 00:18:29,641 I am a god to 50 trillion individual cells, 373 00:18:29,641 --> 00:18:32,775 all of whom have come together in a reason for being 374 00:18:32,775 --> 00:18:36,148 because I, Keidi, infuse a spirit in them. 375 00:18:36,148 --> 00:18:38,898 So I am god to 50 trillion cells. 376 00:18:40,139 --> 00:18:43,889 - God as one person once said is a magnified man. 377 00:18:43,889 --> 00:18:46,482 When people create gods, they do so 378 00:18:46,482 --> 00:18:50,649 by projecting their greatest fears and their greatest wishes 379 00:18:51,970 --> 00:18:53,650 onto a supreme being. 380 00:18:53,650 --> 00:18:55,136 They can be whatever you want them to be. 381 00:18:55,136 --> 00:18:59,303 For a conservative, God is one who favors the death penalty. 382 00:19:00,426 --> 00:19:01,923 For a progressive, God is someone 383 00:19:01,923 --> 00:19:03,532 who is against the death penalty, 384 00:19:03,532 --> 00:19:07,019 so I believe that people come up with their own ideas 385 00:19:07,019 --> 00:19:08,850 and try to project their own ideas 386 00:19:08,850 --> 00:19:12,171 onto what this God supposedly wants. 387 00:19:12,171 --> 00:19:13,421 - God is a man. 388 00:19:15,389 --> 00:19:16,763 That's what God is. 389 00:19:16,763 --> 00:19:19,475 If you don't believe that God is not man, 390 00:19:19,475 --> 00:19:22,515 every time an individual uses the term or say the word God, 391 00:19:22,515 --> 00:19:24,842 they say he, he was a him. 392 00:19:24,842 --> 00:19:26,840 If you go to the dictionary and look up God, 393 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:30,290 it says, the first definition, a male deity. 394 00:19:30,290 --> 00:19:33,389 Second definition, a supreme being. 395 00:19:33,389 --> 00:19:37,623 Look up God as female, it says goddess, a female deity. 396 00:19:37,623 --> 00:19:40,123 It never said supreme being. 397 00:19:40,123 --> 00:19:43,873 So you have to first realize that God is man. 398 00:19:44,937 --> 00:19:47,851 - [Jeremiah] History has shown that anyone in power 399 00:19:47,851 --> 00:19:49,128 can create a god 400 00:19:49,128 --> 00:19:53,425 with whatever attributes and characteristics they so desire. 401 00:19:53,425 --> 00:19:57,457 The problem is when we attempt to make our created gods 402 00:19:57,457 --> 00:20:01,624 more righteous and powerful than the next created god. 403 00:20:03,470 --> 00:20:05,954 We may differ in the detailed nature 404 00:20:05,954 --> 00:20:09,874 of our gods or goddesses, but a pattern has emerged 405 00:20:09,874 --> 00:20:11,569 out of our beliefs. 406 00:20:11,569 --> 00:20:14,145 God is most cherished and embraced 407 00:20:14,145 --> 00:20:16,228 where there is more impoverishment, 408 00:20:16,228 --> 00:20:18,804 depravation, and powerlessness. 409 00:20:18,804 --> 00:20:21,926 God, therefore, has become a relative term 410 00:20:21,926 --> 00:20:24,785 that means different things to different people 411 00:20:24,785 --> 00:20:28,567 depending on where one lives and how one lives. 412 00:20:28,567 --> 00:20:32,719 And despite the desperate prayers of the weak and dependent, 413 00:20:32,719 --> 00:20:36,886 it is believed that God has a future plan, a divine reward, 414 00:20:38,169 --> 00:20:41,458 that will ultimately change their predicament. 415 00:20:41,458 --> 00:20:43,179 - The more religious a society, 416 00:20:43,179 --> 00:20:45,846 the less fluent they tend to be, 417 00:20:47,969 --> 00:20:51,214 and I see that so often, the more educated people 418 00:20:51,214 --> 00:20:53,894 tend to be the less religious people, 419 00:20:53,894 --> 00:20:55,862 and if you look at scientists, for example, 420 00:20:55,862 --> 00:20:57,310 in the United States, 421 00:20:57,310 --> 00:20:59,886 the vast majority of our top scientists 422 00:20:59,886 --> 00:21:03,903 in the United States are either atheist or agnostic, 423 00:21:03,903 --> 00:21:05,904 and that's like 93% of them. 424 00:21:05,904 --> 00:21:08,686 Only 7% profess a belief in God. 425 00:21:08,686 --> 00:21:11,142 - [Jeremiah] Evidence indicates 426 00:21:11,142 --> 00:21:14,263 that religious faith is declining, 427 00:21:14,263 --> 00:21:17,263 but not everywhere or with everyone. 428 00:21:18,492 --> 00:21:23,070 - Certainly not with respect to historically black churches. 429 00:21:23,070 --> 00:21:25,658 Now you do see decline in mainline protestant churches 430 00:21:25,658 --> 00:21:27,915 in the US, where there are African Americans 431 00:21:27,915 --> 00:21:31,402 that are affiliated with those institutions, 432 00:21:31,402 --> 00:21:34,319 but I think with historically black 433 00:21:35,352 --> 00:21:38,641 denominations in churches, Evangelical, 434 00:21:38,641 --> 00:21:42,154 Pentecostal, charismatic communions of churches, 435 00:21:42,154 --> 00:21:44,842 we don't see a decline, we probably see an increase, 436 00:21:44,842 --> 00:21:46,342 in many instances. 437 00:21:47,429 --> 00:21:49,431 You see an increase in Africa, 438 00:21:49,431 --> 00:21:50,925 across the continent of Africa, 439 00:21:50,925 --> 00:21:53,613 Christianity is growing by leaps and bounds. 440 00:21:53,613 --> 00:21:55,983 - [Jeremiah] But are Africans converting to Christianity 441 00:21:55,983 --> 00:22:00,336 in record numbers because it's proven to be empowering, 442 00:22:00,336 --> 00:22:04,003 or is there something more sinister at work? 443 00:22:05,238 --> 00:22:08,607 - It's a very Imperialistic idea 444 00:22:08,607 --> 00:22:11,209 to say I'll feed you, but here's this book on Jesus, 445 00:22:11,209 --> 00:22:13,459 or, you know, come with us, 446 00:22:16,936 --> 00:22:18,646 sometimes you don't have a choice, 447 00:22:18,646 --> 00:22:20,636 is what happened to African Americans 448 00:22:20,636 --> 00:22:22,885 and in the Philippines and many of the places 449 00:22:22,885 --> 00:22:26,277 where colonialism basically took people and said, 450 00:22:26,277 --> 00:22:30,996 you're now, you know, forget about your animistic religions 451 00:22:30,996 --> 00:22:33,680 or whatever faith you had before, 452 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:35,654 you'll either now be our faith 453 00:22:35,654 --> 00:22:37,487 or you'll not survive. 454 00:22:39,601 --> 00:22:41,296 - When the Europeans came to Africa, 455 00:22:41,296 --> 00:22:44,921 they had the Bible, we had the land. 456 00:22:44,921 --> 00:22:48,128 When the Europeans left, we had the Bible, 457 00:22:48,128 --> 00:22:49,950 and they had the land. - They had the land. 458 00:22:49,950 --> 00:22:54,318 - In many ways, Christianity has been used to enslave 459 00:22:54,318 --> 00:22:56,235 other groups of people. 460 00:22:57,383 --> 00:22:59,272 - Well, people are most vulnerable through their religion. 461 00:22:59,272 --> 00:23:03,875 More atrocities have been created in the name of religion, 462 00:23:03,875 --> 00:23:07,542 but still, that's where our faith is tested. 463 00:23:08,818 --> 00:23:10,737 - [Jeremiah] In Africa, as it is here 464 00:23:10,737 --> 00:23:12,290 in many parts of the Philippines, 465 00:23:12,290 --> 00:23:16,768 extreme poverty and extreme religiousness go hand in hand. 466 00:23:16,768 --> 00:23:20,201 In a country where over 80% of the people are Catholic, 467 00:23:20,201 --> 00:23:24,472 they rely on and trust heavily in the words of the pope, 468 00:23:24,472 --> 00:23:28,224 who is considered to be God's closest representative. 469 00:23:28,224 --> 00:23:31,862 The unrelenting faith in an external deity 470 00:23:31,862 --> 00:23:34,093 just may be preventing the human help 471 00:23:34,093 --> 00:23:37,356 that is so desperately needed. 472 00:23:37,356 --> 00:23:40,589 - Filipinos love idolizing somebody, 473 00:23:40,589 --> 00:23:44,756 and the head of the Roman Catholic Church is the pope, 474 00:23:46,107 --> 00:23:48,024 so for them, it's like, 475 00:23:50,012 --> 00:23:53,286 for them it's really a personification of God, 476 00:23:53,286 --> 00:23:56,086 it's the Pontiff, so when you go there, 477 00:23:56,086 --> 00:23:56,919 even if there's traffic, 478 00:23:56,919 --> 00:23:59,573 and that it's really really bad weather, 479 00:23:59,573 --> 00:24:01,895 they will still go and just to be there 480 00:24:01,895 --> 00:24:04,120 and just to be okay, I've seen the pope, 481 00:24:04,120 --> 00:24:05,871 it's like something for them, 482 00:24:05,871 --> 00:24:09,144 but that's the problem with religion in the Philippines, 483 00:24:09,144 --> 00:24:10,936 they humanize themselves 484 00:24:10,936 --> 00:24:12,631 and think that they're really subservient 485 00:24:12,631 --> 00:24:13,631 and nothing. 486 00:24:15,885 --> 00:24:20,370 Religion has poisoned the minds of most Filipinos. 487 00:24:20,370 --> 00:24:21,648 - [Jeremiah] The history of the Philippines 488 00:24:21,648 --> 00:24:24,225 being conquered and converted to Christianity 489 00:24:24,225 --> 00:24:26,698 has a familiar ring to it. 490 00:24:26,698 --> 00:24:30,803 Blacks, too, were conquered, and in 1660, 491 00:24:30,803 --> 00:24:33,363 Charles II Of England ordered 492 00:24:33,363 --> 00:24:35,548 the Council of Foreign Plantations 493 00:24:35,548 --> 00:24:39,715 to devise strategies for converting all enslaved Africans 494 00:24:40,633 --> 00:24:41,966 to Christianity. 495 00:24:43,229 --> 00:24:47,263 Unlike other groups, blacks were threatened to believe. 496 00:24:47,263 --> 00:24:51,239 At one time, adopting Christianity was the law, 497 00:24:51,239 --> 00:24:53,030 and subscribing to anything but 498 00:24:53,030 --> 00:24:55,269 could result in a severe beating 499 00:24:55,269 --> 00:24:57,989 and was even punishable by death. 500 00:24:57,989 --> 00:25:01,222 There was a clear distinction in the treatment of a slave 501 00:25:01,222 --> 00:25:03,055 and a Christian slave. 502 00:25:04,063 --> 00:25:07,237 - The Bible so that we could learn how to follow. 503 00:25:07,237 --> 00:25:08,917 - But why would I want anything-- 504 00:25:08,917 --> 00:25:12,422 - Follow, just period, to give us that, 505 00:25:12,422 --> 00:25:14,815 okay I had to follow my leader, 506 00:25:14,815 --> 00:25:16,763 so it can put in the slave's mind, 507 00:25:16,763 --> 00:25:20,930 okay the master is my leader, so I need to follow him. 508 00:25:22,102 --> 00:25:23,975 - [Jeremiah] What was once a tool 509 00:25:23,975 --> 00:25:27,249 to help cope with suffering is now a crutch 510 00:25:27,249 --> 00:25:29,249 and permanent obsession. 511 00:25:30,090 --> 00:25:32,360 Dependence on supernatural intervention 512 00:25:32,360 --> 00:25:34,443 has become a way of life. 513 00:25:35,776 --> 00:25:39,609 (rhythmic instrumental music) 514 00:25:47,708 --> 00:25:49,174 - There was a newspaper article 515 00:25:49,174 --> 00:25:54,006 a couple of years ago about the prevalence of churches 516 00:25:54,006 --> 00:25:55,906 on the west side of Chicago 517 00:25:55,906 --> 00:25:58,489 in the midst of extreme poverty 518 00:25:59,524 --> 00:26:01,331 on the west side of Chicago. 519 00:26:01,331 --> 00:26:02,475 - If you live in a community 520 00:26:02,475 --> 00:26:05,908 in a country that's dysfunctional, that you're hungry, 521 00:26:05,908 --> 00:26:07,980 things are not working, things are bad, 522 00:26:07,980 --> 00:26:10,194 you don't have jobs, you don't have health care, 523 00:26:10,194 --> 00:26:12,777 their infant mortality is high, 524 00:26:15,092 --> 00:26:17,340 and women are not respected and are not equal. 525 00:26:17,340 --> 00:26:19,177 When you live in countries like that, 526 00:26:19,177 --> 00:26:20,954 well then it's the sames impulse 527 00:26:20,954 --> 00:26:22,661 that makes you wanna buy a lottery ticket. 528 00:26:22,661 --> 00:26:27,237 I want some escape, I need to get out of this mess. 529 00:26:27,237 --> 00:26:29,369 - [Jeremiah] Because of an American past 530 00:26:29,369 --> 00:26:31,665 marred in struggle, blacks a have become 531 00:26:31,665 --> 00:26:34,506 the segment of society mostly committed 532 00:26:34,506 --> 00:26:37,250 to the idea of godly intervention 533 00:26:37,250 --> 00:26:39,785 and are encouraged by their pastors 534 00:26:39,785 --> 00:26:42,555 to accept and depend on miracles 535 00:26:42,555 --> 00:26:45,090 to bring about changes in their lives. 536 00:26:45,090 --> 00:26:47,819 But what are the psychological consequences 537 00:26:47,819 --> 00:26:49,906 of using one's belief as a crutch 538 00:26:49,906 --> 00:26:53,989 and perceiving oneself as powerless and helpless? 539 00:26:56,447 --> 00:26:58,702 - [T.D.] We need you, Jesus. 540 00:26:58,702 --> 00:27:00,408 We need you, Lord. 541 00:27:00,408 --> 00:27:03,335 We can't breathe without you. 542 00:27:03,335 --> 00:27:06,766 - Turn away from your own self-sufficiency. 543 00:27:06,766 --> 00:27:08,879 - [T.D] We can't take without you, 544 00:27:08,879 --> 00:27:10,421 we can't move without you, 545 00:27:10,421 --> 00:27:12,590 we can't make decisions without you, 546 00:27:12,590 --> 00:27:14,251 Lord, we need you. 547 00:27:14,251 --> 00:27:16,834 - Depend on him for everything. 548 00:27:19,545 --> 00:27:20,635 That's what it's gotta be. 549 00:27:20,635 --> 00:27:24,473 I gotta depend on Jesus for everything. 550 00:27:24,473 --> 00:27:26,769 - I see people, I can read it in their eyes, 551 00:27:26,769 --> 00:27:28,662 they think that if they do certain things, 552 00:27:28,662 --> 00:27:31,895 if they dot certain Is and cross certain Ts 553 00:27:31,895 --> 00:27:35,478 they believe that if they think positively, 554 00:27:36,976 --> 00:27:39,470 if they get better from day to day, 555 00:27:39,470 --> 00:27:42,759 that somehow, miraculously they'll be prepared 556 00:27:42,759 --> 00:27:46,873 to go to heaven based on what they have done. 557 00:27:46,873 --> 00:27:49,475 Self-sufficiency will never work. 558 00:27:49,475 --> 00:27:54,054 - The church continues to foster and perpetuate dependency, 559 00:27:54,054 --> 00:27:56,804 almost like arrested development, 560 00:27:57,778 --> 00:27:59,962 so that I don't grow up to become more autonomous 561 00:27:59,962 --> 00:28:00,996 and self-thinking. 562 00:28:00,996 --> 00:28:02,930 That's perhaps our greatest complaint 563 00:28:02,930 --> 00:28:05,576 about the modern-day institution of the church. 564 00:28:05,576 --> 00:28:09,720 And not only is it fostering a dependency 565 00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:13,887 upon supernatural forces in a paternalistic manner 566 00:28:14,902 --> 00:28:17,448 but also the same dependency 567 00:28:17,448 --> 00:28:20,935 is also manifesting in other aspects of people life. 568 00:28:20,935 --> 00:28:25,159 Without the government, we cannot function as a community. 569 00:28:25,159 --> 00:28:29,152 Without these corporations, we don't know what health is. 570 00:28:29,152 --> 00:28:32,053 Without the medical, pharmaceutical drug complex, 571 00:28:32,053 --> 00:28:35,702 I don't know what to do about my high blood sugar. 572 00:28:35,702 --> 00:28:39,658 - Some people use religion as a anesthesia, 573 00:28:39,658 --> 00:28:42,075 to anesthetize their reality. 574 00:28:42,988 --> 00:28:46,525 And when you begin to use religion as a vehicle 575 00:28:46,525 --> 00:28:49,734 to escape your pain, you're not interested 576 00:28:49,734 --> 00:28:53,817 in the true authenticity or the originality of it 577 00:28:55,181 --> 00:28:58,181 because this is your drug of choice. 578 00:28:59,336 --> 00:29:01,550 - [Jeremiah] If religion is perceived by many 579 00:29:01,550 --> 00:29:04,054 to be a drug, then where there are drugs, 580 00:29:04,054 --> 00:29:06,080 there's addiction. 581 00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:08,798 Where there's addiction, there's dependence. 582 00:29:08,798 --> 00:29:12,762 But what are the consequences of an over reliance 583 00:29:12,762 --> 00:29:17,209 about supernatural remedies to solve problems? 584 00:29:17,209 --> 00:29:20,042 - Our God is able to fix our race. 585 00:29:21,181 --> 00:29:24,649 - The only way you can really find real hope 586 00:29:24,649 --> 00:29:26,232 is in Jesus Christ! 587 00:29:28,140 --> 00:29:30,615 - Who if God if not had been by my side, 588 00:29:30,615 --> 00:29:33,198 I would've lost my mind by now. 589 00:29:34,467 --> 00:29:36,947 I'd have been crazy by now. 590 00:29:36,947 --> 00:29:38,958 I'd have been institutionalized by now. 591 00:29:38,958 --> 00:29:43,059 - The churches can help mobilize and organize, 592 00:29:43,059 --> 00:29:44,346 but it's not just the churches, 593 00:29:44,346 --> 00:29:47,913 it really is gonna take the entire communities. 594 00:29:47,913 --> 00:29:49,962 It's gonna take our elected officials. 595 00:29:49,962 --> 00:29:53,460 - We don't need the Democrat Party or any party, 596 00:29:53,460 --> 00:29:54,460 we need God. 597 00:29:55,644 --> 00:29:57,548 God will take care of us. 598 00:29:57,548 --> 00:29:59,646 - [Preacher] Raise your hands, uh. 599 00:29:59,646 --> 00:30:01,862 For without you we can do nothing, uh. 600 00:30:01,862 --> 00:30:04,445 - If had not been for the Lord, 601 00:30:06,038 --> 00:30:07,886 you'd be strung out on drugs. 602 00:30:07,886 --> 00:30:10,168 - No human on Earth came out of their mother's womb 603 00:30:10,168 --> 00:30:14,534 using drugs, they didn't do that, that's unnatural. 604 00:30:14,534 --> 00:30:18,649 It was created by man, given to man to control man. 605 00:30:18,649 --> 00:30:20,916 That's what it's about, control. 606 00:30:20,916 --> 00:30:22,053 - [Jeremiah] What is that you smokin'? 607 00:30:22,053 --> 00:30:23,031 - [Woman] Crack cocaine. 608 00:30:23,031 --> 00:30:24,700 - [Jeremiah] Why you smokin' that? 609 00:30:24,700 --> 00:30:26,117 - It's addicting. 610 00:30:27,877 --> 00:30:28,997 - [Jeremiah] Let me ask you something. 611 00:30:28,997 --> 00:30:30,535 Do you go to church? 612 00:30:30,535 --> 00:30:31,597 - Yes I do. 613 00:30:31,597 --> 00:30:32,581 - [Jeremiah] Do you love the lord? 614 00:30:32,581 --> 00:30:33,498 - Yes I do. 615 00:30:36,089 --> 00:30:37,688 You see how I'm smokin'. 616 00:30:37,688 --> 00:30:38,754 I can't stop. 617 00:30:38,754 --> 00:30:42,670 - [Jeremiah] Have you prayed to stop smokin'? 618 00:30:42,670 --> 00:30:44,916 - I asked God to take the taste out of my mouth. 619 00:30:44,916 --> 00:30:47,059 - [Jeremiah] Did he do it? 620 00:30:47,059 --> 00:30:50,068 - It's common, 'cause I be out here every day. 621 00:30:50,068 --> 00:30:51,593 - [Jeremiah] If somebody told you 622 00:30:51,593 --> 00:30:53,891 they'll take your addiction to crack away 623 00:30:53,891 --> 00:30:57,027 if you would give up Jesus, would you do it? 624 00:30:57,027 --> 00:30:58,931 - Jesus come number one in my life. 625 00:30:58,931 --> 00:31:00,396 - [Jeremiah] So you wouldn't give up your smokin' 626 00:31:00,396 --> 00:31:01,236 before Jesus. 627 00:31:01,236 --> 00:31:04,348 - Jesus is the number one key in my life. 628 00:31:04,348 --> 00:31:06,848 (organ music) 629 00:31:09,358 --> 00:31:11,583 - Do you think that you would still be good 630 00:31:11,583 --> 00:31:16,372 without church, without the Bible, without religion, 631 00:31:16,372 --> 00:31:17,452 without your faith? 632 00:31:17,452 --> 00:31:18,333 - No. 633 00:31:18,333 --> 00:31:19,890 No, I don't think so. 634 00:31:19,890 --> 00:31:21,092 - Where do our morals come from? 635 00:31:21,092 --> 00:31:23,530 Can we be good without God? 636 00:31:23,530 --> 00:31:25,139 - I don't think you can. 637 00:31:25,139 --> 00:31:29,306 - It's really sad that people think that you cannot live 638 00:31:32,217 --> 00:31:34,593 without believing in God, 639 00:31:34,593 --> 00:31:35,883 especially in the black community. 640 00:31:35,883 --> 00:31:38,138 - Because no matter how great you are, 641 00:31:38,138 --> 00:31:40,094 everything about you is miserable, right? 642 00:31:40,094 --> 00:31:42,069 That's what the church teaches. 643 00:31:42,069 --> 00:31:44,339 You can't survive without God, you're an evil, 644 00:31:44,339 --> 00:31:46,355 horrible, sinner person. 645 00:31:46,355 --> 00:31:48,397 - Lucifer, let her go! 646 00:31:48,397 --> 00:31:50,331 Lucifer, let her go! 647 00:31:50,331 --> 00:31:52,804 - You're by no means up to God's standard. 648 00:31:52,804 --> 00:31:56,379 - Well, morality first come from reason, 649 00:31:56,379 --> 00:31:58,251 experience, and observation. 650 00:31:58,251 --> 00:32:01,587 For example, we say rape is wrong, 651 00:32:01,587 --> 00:32:04,049 we say murder is wrong, we stay stealing is wrong, 652 00:32:04,049 --> 00:32:06,500 we say lying is wrong, but why are those wrong? 653 00:32:06,500 --> 00:32:08,346 They're not wrong because the Bible says so, 654 00:32:08,346 --> 00:32:12,883 they're wrong because they have negative effects 655 00:32:12,883 --> 00:32:14,990 for individuals in society. 656 00:32:14,990 --> 00:32:17,644 It doesn't matter whether or not God exists, 657 00:32:17,644 --> 00:32:20,948 if I stab you, that's wrong because it's harmful to you 658 00:32:20,948 --> 00:32:22,755 and I have no right to harm you. 659 00:32:22,755 --> 00:32:24,795 Our morals come about because they work, 660 00:32:24,795 --> 00:32:25,859 because they last. 661 00:32:25,859 --> 00:32:27,932 There's a great free thinker, Robert Ingersoll 662 00:32:27,932 --> 00:32:30,466 of the 19th century, and he said, 663 00:32:30,466 --> 00:32:32,443 there have always been laws against murder, 664 00:32:32,443 --> 00:32:33,634 and there always will be 665 00:32:33,634 --> 00:32:36,572 as long as men object to being murdered. 666 00:32:36,572 --> 00:32:38,084 It just makes perfectly good sense. 667 00:32:38,084 --> 00:32:40,942 It's in your best interest to have laws against murder, 668 00:32:40,942 --> 00:32:44,636 against stealing, and all of these other actions 669 00:32:44,636 --> 00:32:46,807 which cause harm to human beings. 670 00:32:46,807 --> 00:32:49,035 - Do you think you can be good, a good person, 671 00:32:49,035 --> 00:32:51,989 a good moral person without attending church? 672 00:32:51,989 --> 00:32:56,006 - I think I can be more improved by attending church. 673 00:32:56,006 --> 00:32:56,839 - [Jeremiah] Okay. 674 00:32:56,839 --> 00:32:57,880 If you didn't go to church-- 675 00:32:57,880 --> 00:32:59,213 - There are plenty more people goin' to hell. 676 00:32:59,213 --> 00:33:00,046 - [Jeremiah] Right. 677 00:33:00,046 --> 00:33:01,158 (woman laughs) 678 00:33:01,158 --> 00:33:03,790 - Because they have accept Jesus as their lord and savior. 679 00:33:03,790 --> 00:33:04,623 - [Jeremiah] Okay. 680 00:33:04,623 --> 00:33:09,502 - 'Cause people can be, like have a really good personality. 681 00:33:09,502 --> 00:33:11,117 - Right. - They don't bother nobody, 682 00:33:11,117 --> 00:33:13,092 they go to work, they go, you know, 683 00:33:13,092 --> 00:33:14,563 they do good unto all men. - Right. 684 00:33:14,563 --> 00:33:16,872 - And they can be good, 685 00:33:16,872 --> 00:33:19,491 but your goodness and your righteousness is like filthy rags 686 00:33:19,491 --> 00:33:20,779 in the eyesight of God. 687 00:33:20,779 --> 00:33:22,653 We must be born again. 688 00:33:22,653 --> 00:33:23,570 Born in the spirit. 689 00:33:23,570 --> 00:33:24,604 - [Jeremiah] So just being good-- 690 00:33:24,604 --> 00:33:25,504 - It don't get you into heaven. 691 00:33:25,504 --> 00:33:26,495 - [Jeremiah] It's not good enough. 692 00:33:26,495 --> 00:33:27,523 - No, it's not good enough. 693 00:33:27,523 --> 00:33:29,647 You have to be born again, there is no other way. 694 00:33:29,647 --> 00:33:31,486 - What about the amputees? 695 00:33:31,486 --> 00:33:33,575 The people who've been completely disfigured 696 00:33:33,575 --> 00:33:36,388 due to war or crime or whatever the case may be, 697 00:33:36,388 --> 00:33:40,140 and then, you know, God gonna bless them? 698 00:33:40,140 --> 00:33:42,955 He's gonna grown their limbs back? 699 00:33:42,955 --> 00:33:43,948 All the belief in the world 700 00:33:43,948 --> 00:33:47,069 is not gonna make God grow my limbs back. 701 00:33:47,069 --> 00:33:48,987 God has never grown a limb back. 702 00:33:48,987 --> 00:33:51,101 - [Jeremiah] But that's my transgression, 703 00:33:51,101 --> 00:33:53,453 that's all from Adam's sin, 704 00:33:53,453 --> 00:33:55,764 if Adam hadn't have done that, you know. 705 00:33:55,764 --> 00:33:58,605 - Then this is a horribly run existence. 706 00:33:58,605 --> 00:34:01,878 Then that god should be fired on the spot. 707 00:34:01,878 --> 00:34:03,380 You had a horrible plan. 708 00:34:03,380 --> 00:34:05,564 This is a terrible game. 709 00:34:05,564 --> 00:34:07,076 You need to start over. 710 00:34:07,076 --> 00:34:09,204 - He even told Adam not to eat the fruit, 711 00:34:09,204 --> 00:34:11,907 but he already knew that they were gonna do it, 712 00:34:11,907 --> 00:34:15,362 so he already planned on what was gonna happen next, 713 00:34:15,362 --> 00:34:16,667 like everything after that, 714 00:34:16,667 --> 00:34:18,597 it just don't make no sense. 715 00:34:18,597 --> 00:34:21,324 - See, we assign these attributes to God, 716 00:34:21,324 --> 00:34:24,246 and say that he's all-knowing, all-powerful, 717 00:34:24,246 --> 00:34:25,902 every experience, blah, blah, blah, 718 00:34:25,902 --> 00:34:27,150 and then we sell him so short 719 00:34:27,150 --> 00:34:30,062 into creating such a flawed existence like this. 720 00:34:30,062 --> 00:34:31,686 He would make me pay for some shit 721 00:34:31,686 --> 00:34:34,186 that I had nothing to do with? 722 00:34:35,594 --> 00:34:37,344 And you believe this? 723 00:34:38,896 --> 00:34:41,259 Pat on the head, walk away. 724 00:34:41,259 --> 00:34:42,409 That's all you can do! 725 00:34:42,409 --> 00:34:45,489 - Well, morals certainly do not come from the Bible. 726 00:34:45,489 --> 00:34:49,348 The Bible is an amoral or immoral book. 727 00:34:49,348 --> 00:34:50,596 There's some good teachings in it, 728 00:34:50,596 --> 00:34:53,635 but on balance, it's not a good moral guide. 729 00:34:53,635 --> 00:34:56,857 Morals don't have to come from anywhere. 730 00:34:56,857 --> 00:34:59,769 If you ask the question, where do morals come from, 731 00:34:59,769 --> 00:35:01,964 it's like you're waiting for something outside of yourself 732 00:35:01,964 --> 00:35:04,641 to bestow them upon you. 733 00:35:04,641 --> 00:35:06,067 Oh, I need some ten commandments, 734 00:35:06,067 --> 00:35:09,130 oh, I need a code, oh I need some pope, 735 00:35:09,130 --> 00:35:11,538 or I need some religious leader to tell me. 736 00:35:11,538 --> 00:35:13,612 Morals are an inner thing. 737 00:35:13,612 --> 00:35:17,526 A moral decision is a value decision of a functioning mind. 738 00:35:17,526 --> 00:35:21,359 (midtempo instrumental music) 739 00:35:25,293 --> 00:35:26,704 - Of the many thousands of churches 740 00:35:26,704 --> 00:35:28,830 concentrated in black neighborhoods, 741 00:35:28,830 --> 00:35:31,004 it would be disingenuous to conclude 742 00:35:31,004 --> 00:35:34,070 that there are no churches feeding the hungry 743 00:35:34,070 --> 00:35:37,457 or providing clothing or shelter for the needy. 744 00:35:37,457 --> 00:35:40,325 But does one need religion to do good? 745 00:35:40,325 --> 00:35:43,269 The fact is, there are more secular charities 746 00:35:43,269 --> 00:35:45,972 in the United States than non-secular. 747 00:35:45,972 --> 00:35:49,989 Perhaps one religious belief can inspire them to do good, 748 00:35:49,989 --> 00:35:52,554 but there are many who choose to do good 749 00:35:52,554 --> 00:35:56,483 simply because it's the right thing to do. 750 00:35:56,483 --> 00:35:58,908 I see that you all are doing some good things, 751 00:35:58,908 --> 00:36:00,939 you're feeding the community. 752 00:36:00,939 --> 00:36:02,755 So how did that get started? 753 00:36:02,755 --> 00:36:05,490 What are you actually doing for the community? 754 00:36:05,490 --> 00:36:07,588 - I'm a community worker. 755 00:36:07,588 --> 00:36:09,365 - This is a small. - Very small. 756 00:36:09,365 --> 00:36:11,379 - Community church, obviously people 757 00:36:11,379 --> 00:36:12,964 who don't have a lot of money, 758 00:36:12,964 --> 00:36:17,097 and you take the time out to help these people. 759 00:36:17,097 --> 00:36:19,419 Say, for instance, that you were not a pastor, 760 00:36:19,419 --> 00:36:23,252 and that you were not a believer in the Bible. 761 00:36:24,597 --> 00:36:26,094 Would you still do this? 762 00:36:26,094 --> 00:36:28,812 - I believe so, I would. 763 00:36:28,812 --> 00:36:30,846 - Okay, so. - I love my people, 764 00:36:30,846 --> 00:36:32,179 I love the poor. 765 00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:36,447 (midtempo jazz music) 766 00:36:38,992 --> 00:36:41,497 - World renowned jazz musician Lonnie Plaxico 767 00:36:41,497 --> 00:36:45,580 has very practical take on religion and morality. 768 00:36:47,656 --> 00:36:50,752 - I don't use the word higher power or creator, 769 00:36:50,752 --> 00:36:52,583 none of that stuff. 770 00:36:52,583 --> 00:36:54,825 - [Jeremiah] Describe the place that you're in 771 00:36:54,825 --> 00:36:56,885 in terms of your-- 772 00:36:56,885 --> 00:36:59,081 - The place I'm in, is if you need some food, 773 00:36:59,081 --> 00:37:01,504 and I have some food, I'm gonna give you some food. 774 00:37:01,504 --> 00:37:03,045 And the food come from nature, 775 00:37:03,045 --> 00:37:06,462 so whatever responsible for the universe, 776 00:37:07,720 --> 00:37:11,024 which I don't claim to know, has provided that for us. 777 00:37:11,024 --> 00:37:13,443 And to me, it's up to us to just share it. 778 00:37:13,443 --> 00:37:15,030 That's where I come from. 779 00:37:15,030 --> 00:37:18,280 (midtempo organ music) 780 00:37:20,886 --> 00:37:22,726 - [Jeremiah] If goodness and morality 781 00:37:22,726 --> 00:37:25,328 are perceived to be brought on by one faith, 782 00:37:25,328 --> 00:37:29,208 then prayer is the means by which they come about. 783 00:37:29,208 --> 00:37:30,862 Blacks have developed a mindset 784 00:37:30,862 --> 00:37:33,296 that not only expects divine intervention, 785 00:37:33,296 --> 00:37:37,463 but also relies on prayer as a first line of defense. 786 00:37:39,009 --> 00:37:40,995 - We're gonna be praying that God does one of three things, 787 00:37:40,995 --> 00:37:43,713 actually, the first is stabilize the economy, 788 00:37:43,713 --> 00:37:45,587 two, bring peace to the Middle East, 789 00:37:45,587 --> 00:37:47,756 and three, bring down gas prices. 790 00:37:47,756 --> 00:37:50,067 - [Jeremiah] Is prayer the irrational assumption 791 00:37:50,067 --> 00:37:53,666 that our pleas to an invisible but listening God 792 00:37:53,666 --> 00:37:57,235 is causing the results of what we prayed for? 793 00:37:57,235 --> 00:38:00,696 Or is prayer simply the act of rolling the dice enough times 794 00:38:00,696 --> 00:38:03,779 that our number must eventually fall? 795 00:38:04,642 --> 00:38:06,673 Are those who believe that prayer works 796 00:38:06,673 --> 00:38:09,245 guilty of confirmation bias, 797 00:38:09,245 --> 00:38:11,403 where we give selective attention 798 00:38:11,403 --> 00:38:14,946 only to those prayers we believe have been answered 799 00:38:14,946 --> 00:38:17,828 while simply ignoring the countless other prayers 800 00:38:17,828 --> 00:38:19,915 that go unanswered? 801 00:38:19,915 --> 00:38:20,923 - If he has a plan in place, 802 00:38:20,923 --> 00:38:22,588 and he already knows what's gonna happen, 803 00:38:22,588 --> 00:38:25,639 then you can't say, well then, prayer works. 804 00:38:25,639 --> 00:38:26,941 It doesn't work, 805 00:38:26,941 --> 00:38:29,317 because if he knows what happens in the future, 806 00:38:29,317 --> 00:38:32,358 by definition, he can't change it. 807 00:38:32,358 --> 00:38:34,221 It's either he knows or he doesn't know. 808 00:38:34,221 --> 00:38:35,901 - Well it's one of Atlanta's oldest 809 00:38:35,901 --> 00:38:39,343 and most historic institutions, Morris Brown College. 810 00:38:39,343 --> 00:38:42,789 It once joined the ranks of Spelman and Morehouse 811 00:38:42,789 --> 00:38:45,445 as a highly-acclaimed, historically black college, 812 00:38:45,445 --> 00:38:47,278 but $13.1 million debt 813 00:38:48,333 --> 00:38:49,748 and now the threat of foreclosure 814 00:38:49,748 --> 00:38:52,354 threaten to shut down the school for good. 815 00:38:52,354 --> 00:38:53,595 Now, the school's board of trustees 816 00:38:53,595 --> 00:38:55,273 says they are not throwing up their hands, 817 00:38:55,273 --> 00:38:56,651 they're not giving up yet. 818 00:38:56,651 --> 00:38:59,604 They're calling for a day of prayer this Saturday. 819 00:38:59,604 --> 00:39:01,564 They're asking people to meet at the school gym. 820 00:39:01,564 --> 00:39:05,134 - God did not bring us this far to leave us now. 821 00:39:05,134 --> 00:39:06,384 - And with God, 822 00:39:09,094 --> 00:39:10,427 we will make it. 823 00:39:12,318 --> 00:39:13,775 - [Jeremiah] Do you pray? 824 00:39:13,775 --> 00:39:15,018 - Absolutely. 825 00:39:15,018 --> 00:39:17,685 - Are all your prayers answered? 826 00:39:19,474 --> 00:39:23,287 - No, but that does not mean there's not a God. 827 00:39:23,287 --> 00:39:24,433 For a reason. 828 00:39:24,433 --> 00:39:25,904 - And I think even moreso than that, 829 00:39:25,904 --> 00:39:28,831 my prayers may not be answered 830 00:39:28,831 --> 00:39:30,369 because they're not the right things 831 00:39:30,369 --> 00:39:31,584 that need to be answered. 832 00:39:31,584 --> 00:39:33,545 - [Jeremiah] Do ya'll go to church? 833 00:39:33,545 --> 00:39:34,610 - I don't go to church. 834 00:39:34,610 --> 00:39:35,857 - Nah, man. 835 00:39:35,857 --> 00:39:37,451 There ain't even no point, man. 836 00:39:37,451 --> 00:39:39,370 - [Jeremiah] You say there's no point, why? 837 00:39:39,370 --> 00:39:40,419 - Because, like, they're sayin' like, 838 00:39:40,419 --> 00:39:43,499 it don't matter how much you try to pray to God 839 00:39:43,499 --> 00:39:46,478 and junk like that, niggas still be in the same predicament. 840 00:39:46,478 --> 00:39:49,181 Like, I could've prayed the other day. 841 00:39:49,181 --> 00:39:50,619 We didn't have no food in the house, 842 00:39:50,619 --> 00:39:53,187 but I ain't wake up there wasn't nothin' in the house. 843 00:39:53,187 --> 00:39:56,125 See, I'm sayin' there ain't no point to it. 844 00:39:56,125 --> 00:39:57,230 - Your power was given to you 845 00:39:57,230 --> 00:39:58,757 when you came out of your mother's womb. 846 00:39:58,757 --> 00:40:01,590 And what you do, is that you then, 847 00:40:02,569 --> 00:40:04,163 indoctrinated in these various religions, 848 00:40:04,163 --> 00:40:05,841 you give all that power away. 849 00:40:05,841 --> 00:40:08,852 So these various religions, there's the deified image 850 00:40:08,852 --> 00:40:10,338 on the cross, to the Bible, 851 00:40:10,338 --> 00:40:12,033 and anything that's connected to a religion. 852 00:40:12,033 --> 00:40:12,866 You give it away. 853 00:40:12,866 --> 00:40:15,255 So therefore, we as an African people 854 00:40:15,255 --> 00:40:16,401 living in the United States of America, 855 00:40:16,401 --> 00:40:19,143 go out and sittin' up in the pews of a church, 856 00:40:19,143 --> 00:40:21,527 we are powerless people 857 00:40:21,527 --> 00:40:23,810 because we gave all our power away. 858 00:40:23,810 --> 00:40:27,259 - Have you noticed the postures of prayer, for example. 859 00:40:27,259 --> 00:40:28,547 What is prayer? 860 00:40:28,547 --> 00:40:30,619 You're kneeled down, you're hunched over, 861 00:40:30,619 --> 00:40:32,357 your head's bowed, your hands are shackled. 862 00:40:32,357 --> 00:40:35,844 This position is a shackling of the wrists 863 00:40:35,844 --> 00:40:37,722 before the slave master. 864 00:40:37,722 --> 00:40:40,251 Oh please, I beg of you, please be good to me. 865 00:40:40,251 --> 00:40:42,323 Get me something, don't hurt me, you know. 866 00:40:42,323 --> 00:40:44,763 So all of this praise, really, 867 00:40:44,763 --> 00:40:48,418 is a slave humility, is what it is, to the lord. 868 00:40:48,418 --> 00:40:50,351 And what is the god of the Bible? 869 00:40:50,351 --> 00:40:52,154 He's the king, we are slaves, 870 00:40:52,154 --> 00:40:54,776 even Paul said, I am a doulos, a slave of Christ, 871 00:40:54,776 --> 00:40:56,355 and slaves obey your master. 872 00:40:56,355 --> 00:40:57,417 So there's a certain mentality 873 00:40:57,417 --> 00:40:59,144 that if you're an oppressed person, 874 00:40:59,144 --> 00:41:02,209 you need to humble yourself before the great man 875 00:41:02,209 --> 00:41:05,345 and say please be nice to me, be good to me, 876 00:41:05,345 --> 00:41:06,872 give me something to eat. 877 00:41:06,872 --> 00:41:09,362 ♫ Take a picture 878 00:41:09,362 --> 00:41:12,670 ♫ I want you to remember 879 00:41:12,670 --> 00:41:16,087 ♫ When I profess my love 880 00:41:17,598 --> 00:41:19,853 ♫ Press the button 881 00:41:19,853 --> 00:41:21,869 ♫ I hope that you're recording 882 00:41:21,869 --> 00:41:25,786 ♫ Every word I'm saying to you 883 00:41:26,905 --> 00:41:27,799 - Anthony David. 884 00:41:27,799 --> 00:41:28,632 - What up? 885 00:41:28,632 --> 00:41:29,694 - Pleasure meetin' you, man. 886 00:41:29,694 --> 00:41:30,870 - Pleasure to meet you to, man, finally. 887 00:41:30,870 --> 00:41:33,397 - And congratulations, man, to all your success. 888 00:41:33,397 --> 00:41:34,424 - Thank you, appreciate it. 889 00:41:34,424 --> 00:41:37,095 - What would be your biggest problem with religion? 890 00:41:37,095 --> 00:41:37,928 - Yeah. 891 00:41:37,928 --> 00:41:39,617 - If you had, just your number one issue with religion, 892 00:41:39,617 --> 00:41:40,557 what would that be? 893 00:41:40,557 --> 00:41:42,640 - First the idea to even question one religion 894 00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:44,168 came from another religion, you know. 895 00:41:44,168 --> 00:41:48,323 Whether or not there is some other intelligence or whatever, 896 00:41:48,323 --> 00:41:49,279 they don't know what it is, 897 00:41:49,279 --> 00:41:50,608 they're just makin' it up to be 898 00:41:50,608 --> 00:41:53,438 politically against something else. 899 00:41:53,438 --> 00:41:56,361 Just the idea of just sayin', 900 00:41:56,361 --> 00:41:59,512 tryin' to pretend you know something you can't know. 901 00:41:59,512 --> 00:42:02,929 You can't be set up, walked down the path 902 00:42:05,056 --> 00:42:06,807 of certain consequences, 903 00:42:06,807 --> 00:42:09,162 then try to change the game in the ninth inning 904 00:42:09,162 --> 00:42:11,075 with your prayer, you know what I mean? 905 00:42:11,075 --> 00:42:12,130 - Right. - You know what I mean? 906 00:42:12,130 --> 00:42:14,793 And use that, the only thing that the actual belief 907 00:42:14,793 --> 00:42:17,791 as the reason that anybody would think well of you. 908 00:42:17,791 --> 00:42:20,606 ♫ Oh, shake the hand 909 00:42:20,606 --> 00:42:23,034 ♫ Of my imaginary friend 910 00:42:23,034 --> 00:42:24,884 ♫ See the trouble he gets in 911 00:42:24,884 --> 00:42:27,049 ♫ Can traced back to me 912 00:42:27,049 --> 00:42:28,938 - [Woman] What is happening between Somalia and Ethiopia 913 00:42:28,938 --> 00:42:31,626 is not a mere war between two African countries. 914 00:42:31,626 --> 00:42:34,344 It as Islamic conflict with a Christian country 915 00:42:34,344 --> 00:42:36,177 representing the West. 916 00:42:37,020 --> 00:42:39,902 ♫ And when he gets angry 917 00:42:39,902 --> 00:42:42,522 ♫ He can make the lay man strike 918 00:42:42,522 --> 00:42:44,804 ♫ He can help me with the fight 919 00:42:44,804 --> 00:42:46,790 ♫ With his power 920 00:42:46,790 --> 00:42:49,396 ♫ Yes he speaks through me 921 00:42:49,396 --> 00:42:52,979 ♫ And it's always positive 922 00:43:02,196 --> 00:43:06,924 ♫ What God said 923 00:43:06,924 --> 00:43:08,996 ♫ You put the blame on me 924 00:43:08,996 --> 00:43:11,854 ♫ I'm doin' what God said 925 00:43:11,854 --> 00:43:13,926 ♫ What God said 926 00:43:13,926 --> 00:43:16,926 ♫ What God said, oh 927 00:43:19,777 --> 00:43:21,969 - [Jeremiah] Proclamations of what God said 928 00:43:21,969 --> 00:43:26,609 or allegedly has said is standard practice amongst believers 929 00:43:26,609 --> 00:43:28,776 and, of course, preachers. 930 00:43:30,585 --> 00:43:33,367 - So if God said it, that settled it. 931 00:43:33,367 --> 00:43:36,061 - If God said it, that settles it. 932 00:43:36,061 --> 00:43:38,505 ♫ If God said it 933 00:43:38,505 --> 00:43:39,372 ♫ I believe it 934 00:43:39,372 --> 00:43:43,755 ♫ That settles it all for me 935 00:43:43,755 --> 00:43:45,306 - [Jeremiah] But how can we be sure 936 00:43:45,306 --> 00:43:48,713 of what any one of the millions of gods 937 00:43:48,713 --> 00:43:51,610 worshiped around the world today have actually said? 938 00:43:51,610 --> 00:43:53,611 As far as preachers are concerned, 939 00:43:53,611 --> 00:43:57,151 how can we be sure of those who've boldly claimed 940 00:43:57,151 --> 00:43:59,607 to have been called by God to preach, 941 00:43:59,607 --> 00:44:02,504 especially when lacking witnesses? 942 00:44:02,504 --> 00:44:05,215 Are preachers honestly called to preach? 943 00:44:05,215 --> 00:44:08,257 Or is it the lucrative potential of becoming a preacher 944 00:44:08,257 --> 00:44:12,976 and the ease and simplicity in the qualification process? 945 00:44:12,976 --> 00:44:15,073 - I heard folks sayin' they was sittin' at the bus stop 946 00:44:15,073 --> 00:44:16,855 gettin' ready to eat a bologna sandwich, 947 00:44:16,855 --> 00:44:18,703 sing if my bologna had a first name, 948 00:44:18,703 --> 00:44:21,279 and you heard the voice of God. 949 00:44:21,279 --> 00:44:24,260 I was smokin' a joint with Big Daddy when he called me. 950 00:44:24,260 --> 00:44:25,742 - One of the greatest weaknesses of the church 951 00:44:25,742 --> 00:44:29,759 has been the educational level of the pastor. 952 00:44:29,759 --> 00:44:33,974 - Our Old Testament professor, his name is David Carr, 953 00:44:33,974 --> 00:44:36,647 told us about four years ago 954 00:44:36,647 --> 00:44:40,343 that everything in the Bible happened. 955 00:44:40,343 --> 00:44:41,926 Some of it is true. 956 00:44:43,311 --> 00:44:44,849 Did you hear what I said? 957 00:44:44,849 --> 00:44:48,516 Everything in the Bible, everything is true, 958 00:44:49,535 --> 00:44:50,381 and some of it happened. 959 00:44:50,381 --> 00:44:52,388 Everything is true, and some of it happened. 960 00:44:52,388 --> 00:44:53,853 - The biggest contradiction to me is 961 00:44:53,853 --> 00:44:56,596 how could you have an Old Testament and a New Testament? 962 00:44:56,596 --> 00:44:58,589 Or what's so, or what'd you get wrong 963 00:44:58,589 --> 00:45:00,782 in the Old Testament that made you have to create 964 00:45:00,782 --> 00:45:02,906 this New Testament, and then you say 965 00:45:02,906 --> 00:45:05,346 not to go by the Old Testament. 966 00:45:05,346 --> 00:45:06,731 - Why was it revised? 967 00:45:06,731 --> 00:45:07,739 - [Man] Yeah, why is it revised? 968 00:45:07,739 --> 00:45:08,721 - To take books out. 969 00:45:08,721 --> 00:45:10,177 - Why would you revise something 970 00:45:10,177 --> 00:45:12,832 that's supposed to be the word of God? 971 00:45:12,832 --> 00:45:15,000 - If we're just repeating the same rhetoric 972 00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:19,167 that we have for the last, you know, hundred years, 973 00:45:21,045 --> 00:45:24,081 do you not consider that a gross misuse of time? 974 00:45:24,081 --> 00:45:26,293 - Weeping may endure for a night. 975 00:45:26,293 --> 00:45:28,437 - Found him to be. (audience cheer) 976 00:45:28,437 --> 00:45:30,177 A doctor in the sickroom. 977 00:45:30,177 --> 00:45:32,394 - You and I serve a God, amen, 978 00:45:32,394 --> 00:45:34,122 that's been God from the beginning. 979 00:45:34,122 --> 00:45:38,182 - There is nothing too hard for my God. 980 00:45:38,182 --> 00:45:41,590 - Anyone interested in becoming an ordained minister 981 00:45:41,590 --> 00:45:44,888 can do so with just a few clicks of the mouse. 982 00:45:44,888 --> 00:45:46,505 Unlike many other professions 983 00:45:46,505 --> 00:45:50,302 that require exams or academic achievements for qualifying, 984 00:45:50,302 --> 00:45:53,326 it seems the primary credentials for preaching 985 00:45:53,326 --> 00:45:57,493 is to have the ability to produce emotional responses. 986 00:45:59,014 --> 00:46:02,681 (midtempo electronic music) 987 00:46:07,079 --> 00:46:10,215 There are numerous sites that offer instant ordination. 988 00:46:10,215 --> 00:46:14,176 One can go from proletariat to pastor in a flash, 989 00:46:14,176 --> 00:46:17,422 or on one particular site, for a modest fee. 990 00:46:17,422 --> 00:46:19,481 One can obtain a religious title, 991 00:46:19,481 --> 00:46:21,317 a doctorate of divinity certificate 992 00:46:21,317 --> 00:46:22,846 with an ordination package 993 00:46:22,846 --> 00:46:25,616 that includes an impressive credential 994 00:46:25,616 --> 00:46:28,093 for hanging on your wall, a clergy badge, 995 00:46:28,093 --> 00:46:31,926 wallet card credential, and a parking placard. 996 00:46:35,761 --> 00:46:36,849 But should preaching requirements 997 00:46:36,849 --> 00:46:39,344 be held to higher standards? 998 00:46:39,344 --> 00:46:41,984 Should the bar on the qualifications of ordainment 999 00:46:41,984 --> 00:46:45,205 be raised, particularly in light of recent surveys 1000 00:46:45,205 --> 00:46:48,723 that indicate that believers are less knowledgeable 1001 00:46:48,723 --> 00:46:52,262 on the subject of religion than non-believers? 1002 00:46:52,262 --> 00:46:55,237 - I definitely think that the bar should be raised 1003 00:46:55,237 --> 00:46:59,461 because in order to be able to rightly divine the word, 1004 00:46:59,461 --> 00:47:01,176 it's just like anything else in life, 1005 00:47:01,176 --> 00:47:03,915 you would not be able to go in and open up a patient 1006 00:47:03,915 --> 00:47:05,807 as a physician, just because you say 1007 00:47:05,807 --> 00:47:07,428 I'm called to be a physician. 1008 00:47:07,428 --> 00:47:09,283 Because you can't share with someone else 1009 00:47:09,283 --> 00:47:11,520 what you don't know for yourself. 1010 00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:13,729 - And Americans are really functionally illiterate 1011 00:47:13,729 --> 00:47:14,928 when it comes to religion, 1012 00:47:14,928 --> 00:47:16,281 they don't know much about their own religions, 1013 00:47:16,281 --> 00:47:17,228 and they don't know much 1014 00:47:17,228 --> 00:47:19,097 about the religions of other people. 1015 00:47:19,097 --> 00:47:22,264 (midtempo jazz music) 1016 00:47:28,662 --> 00:47:30,882 - [Jeremiah] Is the lack of knowledge amongst believers 1017 00:47:30,882 --> 00:47:35,093 a mere reflection of the ignorance of their pastors? 1018 00:47:35,093 --> 00:47:38,285 - America is one of the most religious countries on Earth, 1019 00:47:38,285 --> 00:47:40,144 but today's new poll shows that many of us 1020 00:47:40,144 --> 00:47:43,268 struggle to answer basic questions about faith. 1021 00:47:43,268 --> 00:47:44,771 - [Jeremiah] Where was the first Christian church 1022 00:47:44,771 --> 00:47:45,854 in the world? 1023 00:47:48,977 --> 00:47:50,464 - The Greeks came first. 1024 00:47:50,464 --> 00:47:51,506 - Yes, the Greeks first. 1025 00:47:51,506 --> 00:47:53,928 - Then the Romans, then the Christians. 1026 00:47:53,928 --> 00:47:57,592 - Jesus came first before them, so, okay, all right. 1027 00:47:57,592 --> 00:48:00,842 - Who started the Baptist denomination? 1028 00:48:02,664 --> 00:48:04,224 - Uh, who started the Baptists? 1029 00:48:04,224 --> 00:48:05,724 Is that a, I mean? 1030 00:48:11,271 --> 00:48:12,474 - How you gonna say you're part of something 1031 00:48:12,474 --> 00:48:15,510 if you don't even know what it started from? 1032 00:48:15,510 --> 00:48:16,343 - [Jeremiah] Did you learn anything 1033 00:48:16,343 --> 00:48:18,401 from the service today? 1034 00:48:18,401 --> 00:48:19,283 - Oh, I did, I did. 1035 00:48:19,283 --> 00:48:20,866 I learned about uh. 1036 00:48:22,255 --> 00:48:24,693 You know, just keepin' the faith, and you know, 1037 00:48:24,693 --> 00:48:27,458 prayin' to God, and you know, in order, 1038 00:48:27,458 --> 00:48:29,533 and struggle's gonna be over. 1039 00:48:29,533 --> 00:48:32,087 - What I learned is that um, 1040 00:48:32,087 --> 00:48:35,837 no matter what you do, Jesus still loves you. 1041 00:48:36,925 --> 00:48:38,722 - [Jeremiah] What did you learn today? 1042 00:48:38,722 --> 00:48:41,867 - [Woman] Oh my goodness. (laughs) 1043 00:48:41,867 --> 00:48:44,067 I'm gonna break it down. 1044 00:48:44,067 --> 00:48:46,463 - [Jeremiah] What did you learn today? 1045 00:48:46,463 --> 00:48:47,675 - What'd I learn today? - Uh-huh. 1046 00:48:47,675 --> 00:48:48,895 - Just sit and wait on the lord, 1047 00:48:48,895 --> 00:48:49,728 and God is gonna provide. 1048 00:48:49,728 --> 00:48:51,911 My whole message, everything I need 1049 00:48:51,911 --> 00:48:53,087 is already taken care of. 1050 00:48:53,087 --> 00:48:54,967 - God doesn't require work on your part. 1051 00:48:54,967 --> 00:48:55,835 All you gotta do is sit on your ass 1052 00:48:55,835 --> 00:48:58,752 and be like, yes, Jesus, I believe! 1053 00:48:59,795 --> 00:49:01,347 - [Jeremiah] But faith without works, 1054 00:49:01,347 --> 00:49:03,359 still gotta work, right? 1055 00:49:03,359 --> 00:49:07,098 - And do what, convert other people to do the same thing? 1056 00:49:07,098 --> 00:49:09,983 What does that work actually consist of? 1057 00:49:09,983 --> 00:49:11,675 Telling people that if they don't believe 1058 00:49:11,675 --> 00:49:13,743 in your particular sky daddy, 1059 00:49:13,743 --> 00:49:17,055 they're not gonna get free ice cream for eternity? 1060 00:49:17,055 --> 00:49:20,387 - [Jeremiah] He's gonna bless you in this life. 1061 00:49:20,387 --> 00:49:23,169 - Yeah, tell people in Liberia that. 1062 00:49:23,169 --> 00:49:26,559 Tell people in certain parts of Nigeria, in Lagos. 1063 00:49:26,559 --> 00:49:27,979 You know, tell people 1064 00:49:27,979 --> 00:49:31,229 in certain parts of South America that. 1065 00:49:32,750 --> 00:49:35,138 - [Jeremiah] Are preachers teachers, too? 1066 00:49:35,138 --> 00:49:38,011 People expect their pastors to be knowledgeable 1067 00:49:38,011 --> 00:49:42,178 on matters pertaining to history, science, or world affairs. 1068 00:49:45,479 --> 00:49:48,436 If pastors had deeper levels of knowledge 1069 00:49:48,436 --> 00:49:51,463 other than the Bible, would believers achieve more 1070 00:49:51,463 --> 00:49:55,543 in the way students achieve more with better teachers? 1071 00:49:55,543 --> 00:49:57,498 - Some people have, in my opinion, 1072 00:49:57,498 --> 00:50:00,075 some people have a higher level of intellectual vigilance 1073 00:50:00,075 --> 00:50:01,325 than others do. 1074 00:50:03,538 --> 00:50:05,992 Some people don't like thinking. 1075 00:50:05,992 --> 00:50:08,378 - The Bible doesn't allow us to think. 1076 00:50:08,378 --> 00:50:10,316 It's like what you're told you believe 1077 00:50:10,316 --> 00:50:12,032 and you run with that. 1078 00:50:12,032 --> 00:50:14,878 I think we need to practice thinking. 1079 00:50:14,878 --> 00:50:19,045 - [Jeremiah] But thinking was never a requirement for faith. 1080 00:50:21,216 --> 00:50:22,999 Early black religious gatherings 1081 00:50:22,999 --> 00:50:26,252 were under the strict supervision of whites. 1082 00:50:26,252 --> 00:50:27,751 Black preachers were ordered 1083 00:50:27,751 --> 00:50:30,116 to preach a particular doctrine 1084 00:50:30,116 --> 00:50:34,450 which would maintain a system of mental enslavement. 1085 00:50:34,450 --> 00:50:38,456 Blacks were forced to preach primarily three things, 1086 00:50:38,456 --> 00:50:40,434 the doctrine of hard work, 1087 00:50:40,434 --> 00:50:44,760 to see their enslaved position as something ordained by God, 1088 00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:47,870 the doctrine of the master and slave relationship, 1089 00:50:47,870 --> 00:50:51,647 and to see themselves as a slave doing the will of God, 1090 00:50:51,647 --> 00:50:54,787 and the doctrine of pie in the sky, 1091 00:50:54,787 --> 00:50:58,954 that their blessings would come only in the next life. 1092 00:51:03,472 --> 00:51:04,487 (gentle piano music) 1093 00:51:04,487 --> 00:51:07,253 One armed with official-looking documents, 1094 00:51:07,253 --> 00:51:10,043 preachers use at least six techniques 1095 00:51:10,043 --> 00:51:14,719 to set the stage for a lifetime of entertainment. 1096 00:51:14,719 --> 00:51:17,136 (bell rings) 1097 00:51:20,263 --> 00:51:22,559 - First we have the hooker. 1098 00:51:22,559 --> 00:51:26,719 The hook, like in a song, is the catchy, repetitive thing 1099 00:51:26,719 --> 00:51:29,359 that is emphasized throughout the sermon. 1100 00:51:29,359 --> 00:51:32,571 Hooks allow preachers to sell their sermons 1101 00:51:32,571 --> 00:51:34,727 more effectively by reinforcing the message 1102 00:51:34,727 --> 00:51:36,644 over and over and over. 1103 00:51:38,487 --> 00:51:41,799 - Get up, you've been sleeping too long. 1104 00:51:41,799 --> 00:51:43,591 Get up. (audience applauds) 1105 00:51:43,591 --> 00:51:45,967 You've been in bondage too long. 1106 00:51:45,967 --> 00:51:48,467 Get up, you've been strugglin' 1107 00:51:48,467 --> 00:51:51,447 with the same bad habit too long. 1108 00:51:51,447 --> 00:51:54,571 - Servin' for joy, some servin' for peace, 1109 00:51:54,571 --> 00:51:56,827 some servin' for strength. 1110 00:51:56,827 --> 00:51:58,499 - They who stumbled over their own feet, 1111 00:51:58,499 --> 00:52:01,599 they who are double-tongued and double mind, 1112 00:52:01,599 --> 00:52:04,842 they who ran up your credit card bill. 1113 00:52:04,842 --> 00:52:07,835 - Next, we have the storm chaser. 1114 00:52:07,835 --> 00:52:10,839 Preachers, usually at the beginning of their sermons, 1115 00:52:10,839 --> 00:52:13,591 deliberately point out all the bad stuff 1116 00:52:13,591 --> 00:52:15,673 that's going on in our lives. 1117 00:52:15,673 --> 00:52:18,395 They calculatingly place people in storm clouds 1118 00:52:18,395 --> 00:52:20,507 because it gives them the opportunity 1119 00:52:20,507 --> 00:52:23,719 to act as the sunshine and come to their rescue 1120 00:52:23,719 --> 00:52:26,283 towards the end of their sermons. 1121 00:52:26,283 --> 00:52:27,679 - You're worried about your bills, 1122 00:52:27,679 --> 00:52:29,035 you're worried about your son, 1123 00:52:29,035 --> 00:52:31,023 you're worried about your house, 1124 00:52:31,023 --> 00:52:32,995 you're worried about your health. 1125 00:52:32,995 --> 00:52:37,667 - To those of you who are going through some big stuff. 1126 00:52:37,667 --> 00:52:38,999 (thunder booms) 1127 00:52:38,999 --> 00:52:41,827 I ain't talkin' to those of you goin' through little stuff. 1128 00:52:41,827 --> 00:52:44,367 - That on the darkest day of your life, 1129 00:52:44,367 --> 00:52:45,895 when your back is against the wall, 1130 00:52:45,895 --> 00:52:48,219 and it looks like there is no way 1131 00:52:48,219 --> 00:52:49,135 for you to go any further. 1132 00:52:49,135 --> 00:52:51,007 - When you thought you were gonna die, 1133 00:52:51,007 --> 00:52:53,383 and you thought you couldn't take any more, 1134 00:52:53,383 --> 00:52:55,592 and you thought you were gonna lose your mind. 1135 00:52:55,592 --> 00:52:59,560 ♫ So much trouble in my way 1136 00:52:59,560 --> 00:53:02,007 ♫ I held the cross sometime 1137 00:53:02,007 --> 00:53:04,216 - They are trained, they are deliberate, 1138 00:53:04,216 --> 00:53:07,883 and they go to school to learn how to do it. 1139 00:53:08,748 --> 00:53:12,303 They attend seminars, when they have national conferences, 1140 00:53:12,303 --> 00:53:16,220 part of their instruction might be on whoopin', 1141 00:53:18,175 --> 00:53:20,795 or how to create the hook. 1142 00:53:20,795 --> 00:53:24,764 It is intentional, it is planned, it is thought out, 1143 00:53:24,764 --> 00:53:26,097 it is practiced. 1144 00:53:27,767 --> 00:53:30,174 - Next, there's the assigner. 1145 00:53:30,174 --> 00:53:33,529 Assigners give their congregations assignments to do. 1146 00:53:33,529 --> 00:53:37,696 One must constantly turn to, slap, hug, high-five, 1147 00:53:38,676 --> 00:53:41,402 or say something to the person sitting next to them, 1148 00:53:41,402 --> 00:53:44,025 usually called their neighbor. 1149 00:53:44,025 --> 00:53:46,103 Assignments provide interaction between the preacher 1150 00:53:46,103 --> 00:53:47,712 and the people. 1151 00:53:47,712 --> 00:53:49,727 Assignments also keep the people busy 1152 00:53:49,727 --> 00:53:51,583 and provide an element of entertainment 1153 00:53:51,583 --> 00:53:55,453 while igniting the most boring of sermons. 1154 00:53:55,453 --> 00:53:56,495 - You can't fall asleep in a black church. 1155 00:53:56,495 --> 00:53:59,163 You got stuff to do, you got assignments. 1156 00:53:59,163 --> 00:54:00,820 (audience laughs) 1157 00:54:00,820 --> 00:54:02,633 You gotta turn to your neighbor. 1158 00:54:02,633 --> 00:54:05,011 - Tell your neighbor, say neighbor! 1159 00:54:05,011 --> 00:54:06,485 - Give somebody a high-five! 1160 00:54:06,485 --> 00:54:08,101 - Touch your neighbor! 1161 00:54:08,101 --> 00:54:10,189 - Go 'round about five people, 1162 00:54:10,189 --> 00:54:11,911 tell 'em I'm leavin' outta here with a miracle. 1163 00:54:11,911 --> 00:54:13,999 - Look at somebody and say, please be real. 1164 00:54:13,999 --> 00:54:15,393 - Look at your neighbor and say, 1165 00:54:15,393 --> 00:54:16,917 God didn't do it, but he knew it. 1166 00:54:16,917 --> 00:54:18,932 - Look at your neighbor and say, 1167 00:54:18,932 --> 00:54:20,238 you don't have to get out of trouble. 1168 00:54:20,238 --> 00:54:22,738 - Come on, tell your neighbor. 1169 00:54:24,124 --> 00:54:27,124 - [Man] Keep hope alive, keep hope alive! 1170 00:54:27,124 --> 00:54:29,384 - Next, we have the hope dealer. 1171 00:54:29,384 --> 00:54:31,823 Hope dealers promise that today, tomorrow, 1172 00:54:31,823 --> 00:54:33,737 or sometime in the near future 1173 00:54:33,737 --> 00:54:36,405 that everything will be just fine. 1174 00:54:36,405 --> 00:54:38,446 Preachers understand the importance of hope 1175 00:54:38,446 --> 00:54:41,710 and how it once served blacks on the plantation. 1176 00:54:41,710 --> 00:54:43,713 Administering large doses of hope 1177 00:54:43,713 --> 00:54:45,578 is one of the most effective tools 1178 00:54:45,578 --> 00:54:47,495 available to preachers. 1179 00:54:48,987 --> 00:54:49,912 - The kingdom is coming! 1180 00:54:49,912 --> 00:54:51,933 The kingdom is coming! 1181 00:54:51,933 --> 00:54:53,334 - Don't worry about it. 1182 00:54:53,334 --> 00:54:55,529 God's already fixed it. 1183 00:54:55,529 --> 00:54:57,776 - This year, God's gettin' ready to take me 1184 00:54:57,776 --> 00:55:00,343 to a whole 'nother level! 1185 00:55:00,343 --> 00:55:04,473 - Tell your neighbor, make room for your blessin'. 1186 00:55:04,473 --> 00:55:06,054 - But I here come to tell you tonight 1187 00:55:06,054 --> 00:55:09,376 that God is gettin' ready to thrust the mantle onto you. 1188 00:55:09,376 --> 00:55:12,248 - [Jeremiah] There are over seven billion people 1189 00:55:12,248 --> 00:55:13,435 in the world today, 1190 00:55:13,435 --> 00:55:16,311 and over a million known other species. 1191 00:55:16,311 --> 00:55:17,714 What is it that would make 1192 00:55:17,714 --> 00:55:20,305 one mere individual human being believe 1193 00:55:20,305 --> 00:55:23,647 that a god is bestowing personal favors 1194 00:55:23,647 --> 00:55:25,545 specifically upon them 1195 00:55:25,545 --> 00:55:28,148 in light of all the other human beings that are suffering 1196 00:55:28,148 --> 00:55:29,565 around the world? 1197 00:55:30,535 --> 00:55:33,348 1/3 of the world's people are at war. 1198 00:55:33,348 --> 00:55:35,885 There are approximately 30 million slaves 1199 00:55:35,885 --> 00:55:39,075 and 30,000 children dying every day 1200 00:55:39,075 --> 00:55:41,919 from starvation and disease. 1201 00:55:41,919 --> 00:55:44,993 Are our assumptions regarding divine favor 1202 00:55:44,993 --> 00:55:49,116 really just an inconspicuous form of arrogance and ego 1203 00:55:49,116 --> 00:55:50,949 disguised as humility? 1204 00:55:55,391 --> 00:55:56,814 - I just grabbed everybody hands 1205 00:55:56,814 --> 00:55:58,232 and we just said no weapon. 1206 00:55:58,232 --> 00:56:00,710 As team formed against this impossible. 1207 00:56:00,710 --> 00:56:02,028 No weapon! 1208 00:56:02,028 --> 00:56:04,748 Man can't control what God has already built 1209 00:56:04,748 --> 00:56:06,287 and blessed and destined, man. 1210 00:56:06,287 --> 00:56:07,954 - Well, how's it predestined 1211 00:56:07,954 --> 00:56:10,119 if you had the choice all along? 1212 00:56:10,119 --> 00:56:11,163 You didn't have to play football. 1213 00:56:11,163 --> 00:56:13,806 You didn't have to do anything. 1214 00:56:13,806 --> 00:56:15,313 You didn't have to put yourself in that position, 1215 00:56:15,313 --> 00:56:16,329 it wasn't given to you. 1216 00:56:16,329 --> 00:56:19,534 If it was that easy, then everyone that aspires to be 1217 00:56:19,534 --> 00:56:21,201 a professional athlete - Would just pray. 1218 00:56:21,201 --> 00:56:22,289 - Would be a professional athlete, yeah. 1219 00:56:22,289 --> 00:56:23,360 - [Woman In White] Just pray about it. 1220 00:56:23,360 --> 00:56:25,943 - But the money is comin' now! 1221 00:56:25,943 --> 00:56:28,828 It's gonna be released to God's people. 1222 00:56:28,828 --> 00:56:31,828 - I'm lookin' for unexpected income! 1223 00:56:32,872 --> 00:56:35,622 Tonight, my bills are bein' paid! 1224 00:56:37,452 --> 00:56:40,285 Tonight, my money is comin' to me! 1225 00:56:42,343 --> 00:56:44,593 Tonight, I deny bein' poor! 1226 00:56:46,165 --> 00:56:48,832 I'll never be broke another day! 1227 00:56:49,730 --> 00:56:53,897 You gonna receive your money tonight, in Jesus name! 1228 00:56:55,938 --> 00:56:57,856 - Then we have the messenger. 1229 00:56:57,856 --> 00:57:00,317 Messengers are the self-appointed profits. 1230 00:57:00,317 --> 00:57:03,103 They make bold claims about how God has given them 1231 00:57:03,103 --> 00:57:07,293 specific messages to share with their congregation. 1232 00:57:07,293 --> 00:57:08,791 Messengers distinguish themselves 1233 00:57:08,791 --> 00:57:11,343 as chosen representatives of God. 1234 00:57:11,343 --> 00:57:13,505 This instantly establishes reverence, 1235 00:57:13,505 --> 00:57:15,422 respect, and authority. 1236 00:57:16,424 --> 00:57:19,061 - If God simply told me to let you know tonight. 1237 00:57:19,061 --> 00:57:21,370 - And the lord told me to tell ya. 1238 00:57:21,370 --> 00:57:24,620 Today is your last cryin' paining time. 1239 00:57:26,619 --> 00:57:28,173 - See, God told me to tell you. 1240 00:57:28,173 --> 00:57:30,319 - So God is tellin' me right now to tell you. 1241 00:57:30,319 --> 00:57:31,665 - You know what the lord told me? 1242 00:57:31,665 --> 00:57:34,708 He said Bethany, I'm gettin' ready to turn some wigs around. 1243 00:57:34,708 --> 00:57:37,044 - But I am God's messenger. 1244 00:57:37,044 --> 00:57:39,870 - Lastly, we have the terrorist. 1245 00:57:39,870 --> 00:57:40,798 A terrorist's goal 1246 00:57:40,798 --> 00:57:43,714 is literally to frighten the hell out of people. 1247 00:57:43,714 --> 00:57:46,074 Playing the devil card is a clever tool 1248 00:57:46,074 --> 00:57:47,352 to ensure that people will be afraid 1249 00:57:47,352 --> 00:57:49,971 not to attend to church. 1250 00:57:49,971 --> 00:57:51,537 (dark ominous music) 1251 00:57:51,537 --> 00:57:53,817 - I know the lord sure came up on my side, 1252 00:57:53,817 --> 00:57:58,180 gives you the ability to keep the devil at bay. 1253 00:57:58,180 --> 00:58:01,690 - That's the devil tellin' you that! 1254 00:58:01,690 --> 00:58:04,466 - Satan wants a different gospel. 1255 00:58:04,466 --> 00:58:06,466 - Devil wants your mind! 1256 00:58:07,829 --> 00:58:10,123 - When you use the fear factor 1257 00:58:10,123 --> 00:58:14,253 to cause a person to produce the results that you want, 1258 00:58:14,253 --> 00:58:15,849 that is a criminal act. 1259 00:58:15,849 --> 00:58:18,533 Well, actually the reason why you can't prosecute them 1260 00:58:18,533 --> 00:58:22,794 is simply because of the psycho-manipulation process 1261 00:58:22,794 --> 00:58:24,623 that they use. 1262 00:58:24,623 --> 00:58:26,668 They speak in such a way 1263 00:58:26,668 --> 00:58:30,875 and use what has come to be respected as the word of God 1264 00:58:30,875 --> 00:58:34,950 to cause a person to volunteer it, voluntarily respond 1265 00:58:34,950 --> 00:58:36,098 to what they're saying. 1266 00:58:36,098 --> 00:58:38,519 So the person is actually saying, 1267 00:58:38,519 --> 00:58:41,376 I'm choosing to do this of my own free will and accord, 1268 00:58:41,376 --> 00:58:43,290 when in reality, they're not doing it 1269 00:58:43,290 --> 00:58:44,286 of their own free will and accord, 1270 00:58:44,286 --> 00:58:46,144 they've been manipulated. 1271 00:58:46,144 --> 00:58:48,089 - Creflo Dollar used an urban legend 1272 00:58:48,089 --> 00:58:51,132 to frighten his parishioners by telling them about 1273 00:58:51,132 --> 00:58:54,146 an unconfirmed team of Russians in Siberia 1274 00:58:54,146 --> 00:58:56,613 who drilled nine miles into the earth 1275 00:58:56,613 --> 00:58:58,484 with a heat-tolerant microphone 1276 00:58:58,484 --> 00:59:03,265 claiming to detect sounds of tormented souls in hell. 1277 00:59:03,265 --> 00:59:04,963 It was later proven to be a hoax, 1278 00:59:04,963 --> 00:59:09,130 a remix of sounds from the 1972 movie Baron Blood. 1279 00:59:11,550 --> 00:59:15,915 - Thousands and perhaps millions of tormented souls. 1280 00:59:15,915 --> 00:59:18,665 This is what they heard, play it. 1281 00:59:21,626 --> 00:59:24,459 (group shrieking) 1282 00:59:30,448 --> 00:59:32,288 - [Jeremiah] Do you believe there is a real devil 1283 00:59:32,288 --> 00:59:34,758 in our lives deliberately trying to destroy us? 1284 00:59:34,758 --> 00:59:35,829 - Oh yeah. 1285 00:59:35,829 --> 00:59:38,552 - The devil is ruling this world. 1286 00:59:38,552 --> 00:59:41,687 - We've given, through the theology that we've been taught, 1287 00:59:41,687 --> 00:59:45,770 we've given a great deal of authority and respect 1288 00:59:47,278 --> 00:59:49,695 to the idea called the devil, 1289 00:59:50,800 --> 00:59:53,550 and it's extremely hard to break. 1290 00:59:55,498 --> 00:59:58,331 (group shrieking) 1291 00:59:59,814 --> 01:00:01,133 - There are a lot of things to be afraid of. 1292 01:00:01,133 --> 01:00:02,685 That ain't it. 1293 01:00:02,685 --> 01:00:03,741 And then there's this idea 1294 01:00:03,741 --> 01:00:05,368 that if you don't believe what we believe, 1295 01:00:05,368 --> 01:00:07,851 you're gonna suffer for it. 1296 01:00:07,851 --> 01:00:11,431 And this idea that if you don't believe what we believe, 1297 01:00:11,431 --> 01:00:13,593 that's okay, your time's gonna come, 1298 01:00:13,593 --> 01:00:15,723 and you're gonna bow before God. 1299 01:00:15,723 --> 01:00:16,941 And then when you do bow before God, 1300 01:00:16,941 --> 01:00:20,487 he's gonna punish you because you didn't believe. 1301 01:00:20,487 --> 01:00:22,549 Not because of what you did, 1302 01:00:22,549 --> 01:00:24,999 not because of what you actually did, 1303 01:00:24,999 --> 01:00:28,582 but because you didn't think a certain way. 1304 01:00:30,143 --> 01:00:33,143 That's the ultimate type of slavery. 1305 01:00:34,933 --> 01:00:37,016 The dominance of thought. 1306 01:00:38,147 --> 01:00:41,065 To dominate how you think and what you feel 1307 01:00:41,065 --> 01:00:43,315 and how you love something. 1308 01:00:44,433 --> 01:00:45,299 No. 1309 01:00:45,299 --> 01:00:47,486 - [Jeremiah] Whether it's hooking, storm chasing, 1310 01:00:47,486 --> 01:00:51,398 assigning, hope dealing, messaging, or terrorizing, 1311 01:00:51,398 --> 01:00:53,834 if we are aware, there are some preachers 1312 01:00:53,834 --> 01:00:58,814 that incorporate all six techniques in every Sunday sermon. 1313 01:00:58,814 --> 01:01:00,616 - I'm in a faith fight. 1314 01:01:00,616 --> 01:01:03,200 I'm in a faith fight, baby, I'm in a faith fight. 1315 01:01:03,200 --> 01:01:06,378 I'm in a faith fight, I'm in a faith fight. 1316 01:01:06,378 --> 01:01:07,520 Before you go in the storm, 1317 01:01:07,520 --> 01:01:10,361 and you didn't even know if you was gonna make it this far. 1318 01:01:10,361 --> 01:01:12,356 This ain't the first time you've had a little hell 1319 01:01:12,356 --> 01:01:13,288 hit your life. 1320 01:01:13,288 --> 01:01:15,218 The doctor gave up on you! 1321 01:01:15,218 --> 01:01:16,885 Before you go in your storm. 1322 01:01:16,885 --> 01:01:18,290 Ya'll shake your neighbor's hands. 1323 01:01:18,290 --> 01:01:19,586 And ya'll look over your left shoulder. 1324 01:01:19,586 --> 01:01:22,479 Turn around in your section and say, baby. 1325 01:01:22,479 --> 01:01:23,439 Ya'll touch your neighbor. 1326 01:01:23,439 --> 01:01:25,922 Nothin' but goodness and blessin's are fallin'. 1327 01:01:25,922 --> 01:01:28,719 Goodness and mercy is gettin' ready to follow you. 1328 01:01:28,719 --> 01:01:30,783 Now you can get ready for some blessings 1329 01:01:30,783 --> 01:01:31,899 coming your direction. 1330 01:01:31,899 --> 01:01:33,459 God told me to tell ya'll. 1331 01:01:33,459 --> 01:01:35,667 God told me to tell somebody. 1332 01:01:35,667 --> 01:01:37,338 And God told me, tell some folk up here. 1333 01:01:37,338 --> 01:01:38,958 But God told me to tell you. 1334 01:01:38,958 --> 01:01:41,776 Here's the first time the devil has messed with you. 1335 01:01:41,776 --> 01:01:43,326 It ain't the first time 1336 01:01:43,326 --> 01:01:46,048 the devil has tried to rob you of relationships. 1337 01:01:46,048 --> 01:01:48,832 This year, the devil wanted to rob you of some stuff. 1338 01:01:48,832 --> 01:01:50,380 It's that no matter what hell 1339 01:01:50,380 --> 01:01:52,035 the devil throws your direction, 1340 01:01:52,035 --> 01:01:54,282 the doors of the church are open. 1341 01:01:54,282 --> 01:01:56,449 The invitation's extended. 1342 01:01:57,586 --> 01:02:00,108 The opportunity is yours. 1343 01:02:00,108 --> 01:02:01,191 Glory to God. 1344 01:02:03,771 --> 01:02:06,891 - [Jeremiah] God, known by many names, 1345 01:02:06,891 --> 01:02:10,409 and thought of as a singular and supreme being, 1346 01:02:10,409 --> 01:02:14,475 described as all-powerful and all-knowing. 1347 01:02:14,475 --> 01:02:17,259 God's infinite wisdom is said to know the answers 1348 01:02:17,259 --> 01:02:18,426 to everything. 1349 01:02:19,373 --> 01:02:23,334 The number of grains of sand on all the world's beaches, 1350 01:02:23,334 --> 01:02:26,275 the number of hairs on every human's head, 1351 01:02:26,275 --> 01:02:30,025 and even the number of stars in the universe. 1352 01:02:31,083 --> 01:02:33,233 Many believers claim to have dialogue 1353 01:02:33,233 --> 01:02:36,228 with this being of infinite wisdom. 1354 01:02:36,228 --> 01:02:38,043 If this claim is true, 1355 01:02:38,043 --> 01:02:40,852 then shouldn't believers be more wise, 1356 01:02:40,852 --> 01:02:43,098 intelligent, and knowledgeable? 1357 01:02:43,098 --> 01:02:46,972 Where are the great minds to behold and admire, 1358 01:02:46,972 --> 01:02:50,997 and what kind of information, knowledge, or wisdom 1359 01:02:50,997 --> 01:02:55,806 has God been sharing with believers during their lives? 1360 01:02:55,806 --> 01:02:57,437 Now, does God talk to you all? 1361 01:02:57,437 --> 01:02:59,625 - Yes, absolutely. 1362 01:02:59,625 --> 01:03:00,943 - [Jeremiah] And you talk to God? 1363 01:03:00,943 --> 01:03:01,776 - Yes. 1364 01:03:01,776 --> 01:03:04,385 - [Jeremiah] And what kind of messages 1365 01:03:04,385 --> 01:03:05,218 do you get from God? 1366 01:03:05,218 --> 01:03:06,855 - It comes at different times. 1367 01:03:06,855 --> 01:03:09,499 There was a time in prison when I was anticipating something 1368 01:03:09,499 --> 01:03:11,815 and I was sitting on the bed, and I was about to get up, 1369 01:03:11,815 --> 01:03:13,043 and I felt something. 1370 01:03:13,043 --> 01:03:14,121 No one was around me, 1371 01:03:14,121 --> 01:03:16,233 I just felt something place their hand on my leg 1372 01:03:16,233 --> 01:03:18,816 and a word just came out, wait. 1373 01:03:19,733 --> 01:03:23,483 - [Mario] The person who feels a need for God 1374 01:03:24,398 --> 01:03:28,565 does not want, I think, a God that created the universe 1375 01:03:31,434 --> 01:03:33,629 however many years ago 1376 01:03:33,629 --> 01:03:37,516 and then left this universe to its own devices. 1377 01:03:37,516 --> 01:03:39,832 A person, I think, who has a need for God 1378 01:03:39,832 --> 01:03:43,836 needs a god that is there for him or her 1379 01:03:43,836 --> 01:03:46,752 every day, every minute, every second. 1380 01:03:46,752 --> 01:03:50,835 Science has nothing to say about a god like this. 1381 01:03:54,048 --> 01:03:55,824 - [Jeremiah] You talk to God? 1382 01:03:55,824 --> 01:03:56,688 - I sure do, baby. 1383 01:03:56,688 --> 01:03:57,521 - [Jeremiah] Out loud? 1384 01:03:57,521 --> 01:04:00,525 - I talk to him out loud, I talk to him low, 1385 01:04:00,525 --> 01:04:03,596 I talk to God, I talk to God. 1386 01:04:03,596 --> 01:04:05,246 - [Jeremiah] Does he talk back to you? 1387 01:04:05,246 --> 01:04:09,246 - He talks back to me. (laughs) 1388 01:04:11,509 --> 01:04:14,326 ♫ Lutherans have liturgies 1389 01:04:14,326 --> 01:04:17,342 ♫ Calvinists have creeds 1390 01:04:17,342 --> 01:04:20,366 ♫ Muslims have their minarets 1391 01:04:20,366 --> 01:04:23,878 ♫ Catholics have their beads 1392 01:04:23,878 --> 01:04:26,038 ♫ Methodists have methods 1393 01:04:26,038 --> 01:04:28,885 ♫ Holy truth to ascertain 1394 01:04:28,885 --> 01:04:30,565 ♫ But poor little me 1395 01:04:30,565 --> 01:04:33,732 ♫ I only have a brain 1396 01:04:47,521 --> 01:04:49,513 - [Jeremiah] Does belief, trust, faith, 1397 01:04:49,513 --> 01:04:52,608 and dependence in a supernatural being 1398 01:04:52,608 --> 01:04:55,215 affect our intelligence? 1399 01:04:55,215 --> 01:04:59,219 Does religion, which claims to know the answers to life 1400 01:04:59,219 --> 01:05:01,371 promote closed-mindedness 1401 01:05:01,371 --> 01:05:04,421 in matters pertaining to the origins of life 1402 01:05:04,421 --> 01:05:06,520 where new scientific discoveries 1403 01:05:06,520 --> 01:05:09,480 are clashing with biblical doctrine? 1404 01:05:09,480 --> 01:05:11,851 - Clearly now, you may have those 1405 01:05:11,851 --> 01:05:14,141 who are arguing against evolution, 1406 01:05:14,141 --> 01:05:17,718 and based on their reading of the scripture, 1407 01:05:17,718 --> 01:05:20,792 they say those things are incompatible and inconsistent 1408 01:05:20,792 --> 01:05:23,960 and therefore that may translate 1409 01:05:23,960 --> 01:05:28,360 into certain kinds of suspicions of science. 1410 01:05:28,360 --> 01:05:29,672 - But if you don't believe in God, 1411 01:05:29,672 --> 01:05:31,691 I mean, really, you gotta have an explanation for this. 1412 01:05:31,691 --> 01:05:34,872 You just can't tell me this spun out of a gasterous ball. 1413 01:05:34,872 --> 01:05:37,477 - Every atom in our bodies came from stars that exploded. 1414 01:05:37,477 --> 01:05:38,931 The atoms in my left hand 1415 01:05:38,931 --> 01:05:41,341 may have come from a different star than my right hand. 1416 01:05:41,341 --> 01:05:43,240 We are literally stardust 1417 01:05:43,240 --> 01:05:44,672 because all the elements that make us up, 1418 01:05:44,672 --> 01:05:47,518 the heavy elements, carbon, nitrogen, oxygen, iron, 1419 01:05:47,518 --> 01:05:50,197 all of those things were created in the big bang. 1420 01:05:50,197 --> 01:05:53,520 The only place they're created is the fiery cores 1421 01:05:53,520 --> 01:05:55,518 and furnaces at the cores of stars. 1422 01:05:55,518 --> 01:05:56,971 And the only way they can get into our body 1423 01:05:56,971 --> 01:05:59,410 is if those stars were kind enough to explode. 1424 01:05:59,410 --> 01:06:03,037 And about 200 million stars have exploded in our galaxy 1425 01:06:03,037 --> 01:06:06,870 before our sun formed, and we're the stardust, 1426 01:06:07,941 --> 01:06:09,171 we're literally star children, 1427 01:06:09,171 --> 01:06:11,451 and I find that so remarkable. 1428 01:06:11,451 --> 01:06:13,131 It's so much more interesting as it is. 1429 01:06:13,131 --> 01:06:16,312 The reality of, the poetry of reality 1430 01:06:16,312 --> 01:06:19,812 is so much more interesting than the myths 1431 01:06:20,661 --> 01:06:22,971 created by Bronze Age or Iron Age peasants 1432 01:06:22,971 --> 01:06:25,701 who didn't even know the Earth orbited the sun. 1433 01:06:25,701 --> 01:06:28,861 These facts are so amazing that it saddens me 1434 01:06:28,861 --> 01:06:31,930 that so many people are afraid of them 1435 01:06:31,930 --> 01:06:33,851 because they figure it'll confront their faith 1436 01:06:33,851 --> 01:06:36,480 that they'd rather not either learn them 1437 01:06:36,480 --> 01:06:38,371 or have their children learn them 1438 01:06:38,371 --> 01:06:40,949 or celebrate these remarkable facts. 1439 01:06:40,949 --> 01:06:42,417 The fact that every atom in your body 1440 01:06:42,417 --> 01:06:44,530 has experienced the most violent explosion 1441 01:06:44,530 --> 01:06:46,291 that happens in the universe. 1442 01:06:46,291 --> 01:06:49,509 When a whole star collapses in second, and just amazing. 1443 01:06:49,509 --> 01:06:50,858 - And then all of a sudden, 1444 01:06:50,858 --> 01:06:53,577 then we were evolved from monkeys, why we still got monkeys? 1445 01:06:53,577 --> 01:06:55,979 There's too much open here, I just believe. 1446 01:06:55,979 --> 01:06:58,638 - If we're descended from chimpanzees, 1447 01:06:58,638 --> 01:07:00,779 how come there are still chimpanzees? 1448 01:07:00,779 --> 01:07:03,337 Well, we're not descended from chimpanzees, 1449 01:07:03,337 --> 01:07:05,926 we're both descended from a common ancestor 1450 01:07:05,926 --> 01:07:09,648 who lived there, about six million years ago. 1451 01:07:09,648 --> 01:07:12,405 That common ancestor then produced two branches, 1452 01:07:12,405 --> 01:07:15,099 one of which went to us humans, 1453 01:07:15,099 --> 01:07:17,768 and one of which went to chimpanzees, 1454 01:07:17,768 --> 01:07:22,179 branching further to produce bonobos and common chimpanzees. 1455 01:07:22,179 --> 01:07:23,926 We are all cousins. 1456 01:07:23,926 --> 01:07:27,087 We are not descended from chimpanzees. 1457 01:07:27,087 --> 01:07:30,254 (midtempo jazz music) 1458 01:07:41,760 --> 01:07:43,168 - [Jeremiah] You say you minister. 1459 01:07:43,168 --> 01:07:44,669 - Yes, I'm a minister. 1460 01:07:44,669 --> 01:07:48,549 - [Jeremiah] Now, how were you called to minister? 1461 01:07:48,549 --> 01:07:50,799 - Well, I was called by God 1462 01:07:52,379 --> 01:07:55,479 a still, small, wonderful voice. 1463 01:07:55,479 --> 01:07:58,128 I did not go to school to get this calling. 1464 01:07:58,128 --> 01:07:59,711 It came from above, 1465 01:08:01,259 --> 01:08:05,006 and I wouldn't trade it for all the school in the world. 1466 01:08:05,006 --> 01:08:08,899 - [Jeremiah] Why do you think that in the black community 1467 01:08:08,899 --> 01:08:13,829 we have so many churches but yet so many problems? 1468 01:08:13,829 --> 01:08:16,326 - [Minister] You wanna know why? 1469 01:08:16,326 --> 01:08:17,279 You really wanna know why? 1470 01:08:17,279 --> 01:08:18,719 - [Jeremiah] Yes. 1471 01:08:18,719 --> 01:08:22,386 - Because the church, there's so many church 1472 01:08:24,959 --> 01:08:27,376 when people are called by God 1473 01:08:28,765 --> 01:08:32,600 and want to do things in the old way, 1474 01:08:32,600 --> 01:08:35,768 here come these new educated people. 1475 01:08:35,768 --> 01:08:38,109 - [Jeremiah] Have blacks become so despaired, 1476 01:08:38,109 --> 01:08:40,568 that luck, liquor, and the lord 1477 01:08:40,568 --> 01:08:42,985 seem to be the only solution? 1478 01:08:43,968 --> 01:08:46,898 All black communities have liquor stores and churches. 1479 01:08:46,898 --> 01:08:47,732 - Yeah. 1480 01:08:47,732 --> 01:08:48,565 - [Jeremiah] Why do you think so? 1481 01:08:48,565 --> 01:08:49,818 - Why do I think so? 1482 01:08:49,818 --> 01:08:51,087 - [Jeremiah] Yeah. 1483 01:08:51,087 --> 01:08:53,487 - Because it's the poorest area. 1484 01:08:53,487 --> 01:08:57,679 You know, churches try to get you to come in, (laughs) 1485 01:08:57,679 --> 01:09:00,087 liquor store tryin' to get you to come in too, right? 1486 01:09:00,087 --> 01:09:01,928 This is the poorest area, man. 1487 01:09:01,928 --> 01:09:04,126 That's where most of 'em at, in the poorest area, right? 1488 01:09:04,126 --> 01:09:04,959 - [Jeremiah] Right. 1489 01:09:04,959 --> 01:09:05,808 - Yep. - In the poorest areas. 1490 01:09:05,808 --> 01:09:06,640 - Yep. 1491 01:09:06,640 --> 01:09:08,349 - [Jeremiah] Now you got a lottery in your hair. 1492 01:09:08,349 --> 01:09:10,448 Now they also, we play a lot of lottery. 1493 01:09:10,448 --> 01:09:11,808 (man laughs) 1494 01:09:11,808 --> 01:09:13,680 And we prayin' too, right? 1495 01:09:13,680 --> 01:09:14,513 - [Man] Yep. 1496 01:09:14,513 --> 01:09:16,647 - [Jeremiah] Is that all we have is Jesus and the lottery? 1497 01:09:16,647 --> 01:09:17,619 - It's most of what you got. 1498 01:09:17,619 --> 01:09:20,968 You ain't got much to look forward to, so, 1499 01:09:20,968 --> 01:09:21,879 you know what I mean? 1500 01:09:21,879 --> 01:09:22,711 - [Jeremiah] What'd you say? 1501 01:09:22,711 --> 01:09:24,726 - You don't have too much to look forward to, 1502 01:09:24,726 --> 01:09:25,559 so what you gonna do? 1503 01:09:25,559 --> 01:09:28,709 Gamble, drink, go to church. 1504 01:09:28,709 --> 01:09:31,959 (midtempo piano music) 1505 01:09:33,308 --> 01:09:35,603 - [Jeremiah] Beginning in 1667, 1506 01:09:35,603 --> 01:09:39,058 the Virginia legislature wrote into law 1507 01:09:39,058 --> 01:09:41,268 the principle that God himself 1508 01:09:41,268 --> 01:09:43,233 had rendered the slaves inferior 1509 01:09:43,233 --> 01:09:46,733 because God was on the side of the master. 1510 01:09:48,277 --> 01:09:51,241 The American colonies codified into law 1511 01:09:51,241 --> 01:09:53,606 the notions of black inferiority. 1512 01:09:53,606 --> 01:09:56,570 Blacks were considered savages and heathens, 1513 01:09:56,570 --> 01:09:59,273 and Christianity was the civilizing agent 1514 01:09:59,273 --> 01:10:02,068 that was intended to cure them 1515 01:10:02,068 --> 01:10:05,568 from the unfortunate disease of blackness. 1516 01:10:07,650 --> 01:10:09,528 ♫ Southerns hear your country call ye 1517 01:10:09,528 --> 01:10:11,519 ♫ Up lest worse than death befall you 1518 01:10:11,519 --> 01:10:13,635 ♫ To arms, to arms 1519 01:10:13,635 --> 01:10:16,184 - Even like me comin' out of the church, 1520 01:10:16,184 --> 01:10:17,481 'cause that's where I was raised at 1521 01:10:17,481 --> 01:10:18,761 because I had to be 1522 01:10:18,761 --> 01:10:20,514 because my grandma picked me up every Sunday 1523 01:10:20,514 --> 01:10:23,323 I mean, people don't ever wanna question 1524 01:10:23,323 --> 01:10:24,764 why they even goin' to church. 1525 01:10:24,764 --> 01:10:26,626 They just do it 'cause they have to. 1526 01:10:26,626 --> 01:10:28,210 And then when you tell somebody 1527 01:10:28,210 --> 01:10:29,251 that you don't go to church, 1528 01:10:29,251 --> 01:10:31,369 or when you tell somebody that you don't pray every night, 1529 01:10:31,369 --> 01:10:33,032 or when you start eatin' a meal 1530 01:10:33,032 --> 01:10:34,465 and you don't pray over your meal first, 1531 01:10:34,465 --> 01:10:36,038 people look at you like you're crazy. 1532 01:10:36,038 --> 01:10:37,987 - Well, basically my mom used to like 1533 01:10:37,987 --> 01:10:39,156 force me to go to church, 1534 01:10:39,156 --> 01:10:41,665 it wasn't like a, oh, do you wanna believe in God, 1535 01:10:41,665 --> 01:10:44,044 or, anything, like do you believe he's there? 1536 01:10:44,044 --> 01:10:46,438 Like my mom forced it on me, it's like, 1537 01:10:46,438 --> 01:10:49,895 there is a God, Christianity is your religion, 1538 01:10:49,895 --> 01:10:52,041 like this is what you are, 1539 01:10:52,041 --> 01:10:54,380 and really, I feel like that's still wrong, too 1540 01:10:54,380 --> 01:10:58,305 because even, I feel, like if I don't know anything about it 1541 01:10:58,305 --> 01:11:00,420 how are you gonna make me devote my life and soul 1542 01:11:00,420 --> 01:11:03,141 into something, and it's something I don't even know about, 1543 01:11:03,141 --> 01:11:06,157 but you claim that you know it, you know? 1544 01:11:06,157 --> 01:11:09,395 - [Jeremiah] But because there is no empirical evidence 1545 01:11:09,395 --> 01:11:12,189 indicating that believers are faring better 1546 01:11:12,189 --> 01:11:14,868 than non believers, believers are inclined 1547 01:11:14,868 --> 01:11:19,035 to view their faith as a kind of after life insurance policy 1548 01:11:20,641 --> 01:11:22,141 motivated by fear. 1549 01:11:23,771 --> 01:11:24,957 - I don't know that you wanna be wrong 1550 01:11:24,957 --> 01:11:27,207 about the existence of God. 1551 01:11:28,151 --> 01:11:31,519 I don't know that you'd wanna be living your life 1552 01:11:31,519 --> 01:11:35,208 as though God does not exist or God does not matter, 1553 01:11:35,208 --> 01:11:40,102 only to discover that you were very, very wrong about that. 1554 01:11:40,102 --> 01:11:43,442 - [Jeremiah] Is that Pascal's wager? 1555 01:11:43,442 --> 01:11:45,809 - Well, call it what you like, you know. 1556 01:11:45,809 --> 01:11:48,487 - I don't like being scared into something. 1557 01:11:48,487 --> 01:11:51,334 I feel like if I'm supposed to believe in something 1558 01:11:51,334 --> 01:11:55,065 that is so powerful, I don't wanna be scared into it, 1559 01:11:55,065 --> 01:11:56,923 I don't wanna say, I don't want you to tell me 1560 01:11:56,923 --> 01:11:58,637 do this, or I'm goin' to hell. 1561 01:11:58,637 --> 01:12:00,382 - Thousands of people that I try to reach, 1562 01:12:00,382 --> 01:12:02,695 that's the first thing they say. 1563 01:12:02,695 --> 01:12:04,348 Well, what about your soul? 1564 01:12:04,348 --> 01:12:06,570 You know, what's gonna happen to your soul when you die? 1565 01:12:06,570 --> 01:12:08,155 That's the thing in their head, man. 1566 01:12:08,155 --> 01:12:09,430 So they have this fear factor, 1567 01:12:09,430 --> 01:12:12,263 so if I dare question or challenge 1568 01:12:14,360 --> 01:12:17,943 or try to analyze, okay, this belief system 1569 01:12:21,223 --> 01:12:23,432 because the Bible has, you know, 1570 01:12:23,432 --> 01:12:24,871 they're brainwashed to that degree. 1571 01:12:24,871 --> 01:12:29,138 - I personally think that it's just a afterlife thing. 1572 01:12:29,138 --> 01:12:31,178 Where I'm gonna go when I pass. 1573 01:12:31,178 --> 01:12:33,415 I don't think that it's something 1574 01:12:33,415 --> 01:12:34,665 that's for now. 1575 01:12:35,950 --> 01:12:37,368 - [Woman In White] Are you afraid to die? 1576 01:12:37,368 --> 01:12:39,967 - I don't wanna go to hell, I don't wanna burn. 1577 01:12:39,967 --> 01:12:42,577 I know that's what the Bible say, I'm gonna burn. 1578 01:12:42,577 --> 01:12:45,141 - I still wanna go to heaven, you know. 1579 01:12:45,141 --> 01:12:48,585 I wanna be conscious, but I still wanna go to heaven. 1580 01:12:48,585 --> 01:12:49,911 - My brothers. 1581 01:12:49,911 --> 01:12:52,213 You're my big brother now, okay. 1582 01:12:52,213 --> 01:12:54,851 You're a believer, and I'm not. 1583 01:12:54,851 --> 01:12:57,018 You go to heaven, I don't. 1584 01:12:58,362 --> 01:12:59,529 Are you happy? 1585 01:13:01,351 --> 01:13:04,018 How do you feel, we're brothers. 1586 01:13:05,355 --> 01:13:07,924 Did I get what I deserved? 1587 01:13:07,924 --> 01:13:11,841 How do you reconcile that while being in heaven? 1588 01:13:11,841 --> 01:13:14,261 Has God changed the way you feel about it, 1589 01:13:14,261 --> 01:13:16,782 so now you're not even you? 1590 01:13:16,782 --> 01:13:17,966 That doesn't work. 1591 01:13:17,966 --> 01:13:20,761 - Now how do I deal with that? 1592 01:13:20,761 --> 01:13:22,930 Okay, I'm conscious, I know all this stuff, 1593 01:13:22,930 --> 01:13:24,791 I know the Council of Nicea, 1594 01:13:24,791 --> 01:13:26,415 I know all this stuff about religion 1595 01:13:26,415 --> 01:13:28,482 and how it got started and all this stuff, 1596 01:13:28,482 --> 01:13:31,065 but I still keep the God in me. 1597 01:13:32,239 --> 01:13:33,344 I still wanna keep the God in me, 1598 01:13:33,344 --> 01:13:34,177 even though I know 1599 01:13:34,177 --> 01:13:37,321 a lot of this religious stuff is man made. 1600 01:13:37,321 --> 01:13:39,987 So how do I, how do I do it? 1601 01:13:39,987 --> 01:13:41,702 - The current age of information 1602 01:13:41,702 --> 01:13:44,992 is undoubtedly beginning to shake the foundations 1603 01:13:44,992 --> 01:13:47,593 of long-established beliefs. 1604 01:13:47,593 --> 01:13:51,777 Many are faced with a decision of whether to continue 1605 01:13:51,777 --> 01:13:55,195 or discontinue believing in the primitive stories 1606 01:13:55,195 --> 01:13:57,169 within the Bible. 1607 01:13:57,169 --> 01:14:00,169 (gentle jazz music) 1608 01:14:36,193 --> 01:14:37,471 When reading the Bible, 1609 01:14:37,471 --> 01:14:40,227 I've always wondered why people of African descent 1610 01:14:40,227 --> 01:14:41,839 were reading the books called Romans 1611 01:14:41,839 --> 01:14:43,957 and books named after Greeks, 1612 01:14:43,957 --> 01:14:46,934 such as Corinthians or Galatians. 1613 01:14:46,934 --> 01:14:50,391 Why weren't blacks reading books called Malians, 1614 01:14:50,391 --> 01:14:53,123 Ghanaians or Ethopians? 1615 01:14:53,123 --> 01:14:54,862 Blacks were trained to abandon the ways 1616 01:14:54,862 --> 01:14:56,489 of their ancestors 1617 01:14:56,489 --> 01:14:59,972 and to forsake their own beliefs and culture, 1618 01:14:59,972 --> 01:15:03,405 and religion was used as the most effective tool 1619 01:15:03,405 --> 01:15:06,733 to divert attention away from a collective agenda 1620 01:15:06,733 --> 01:15:11,144 to individual goals focused on individual salvation 1621 01:15:11,144 --> 01:15:14,977 which has created a peculiar sense of loyalty. 1622 01:15:20,842 --> 01:15:22,844 Which one do you think is more important, 1623 01:15:22,844 --> 01:15:24,362 the blood that our ancestors shed 1624 01:15:24,362 --> 01:15:26,406 for us to have a better life, 1625 01:15:26,406 --> 01:15:30,573 or the blood that Jesus shed for us to have a better life? 1626 01:15:31,606 --> 01:15:32,920 - The blood of Jesus. 1627 01:15:32,920 --> 01:15:35,103 - Of Jesus, the blood of Jesus. 1628 01:15:35,103 --> 01:15:37,562 It was a process for them to go through, our ancestors, 1629 01:15:37,562 --> 01:15:40,942 but the blood of Jesus says that I can have a life 1630 01:15:40,942 --> 01:15:42,956 and have it more abundantly, 1631 01:15:42,956 --> 01:15:47,139 and that submission, Jesus first, I mean, you know. 1632 01:15:47,139 --> 01:15:50,049 - I think I heard you once say, I read somewhere 1633 01:15:50,049 --> 01:15:53,547 where you said that actually it was the stars and not Jesus 1634 01:15:53,547 --> 01:15:55,003 who gave up their lives. 1635 01:15:55,003 --> 01:15:55,887 - Well, it was a joke in some sense, 1636 01:15:55,887 --> 01:15:57,745 but we're here because of the stars. 1637 01:15:57,745 --> 01:15:59,815 I mean, that, you know, you can claim Jesus, 1638 01:15:59,815 --> 01:16:01,746 we're here because of Jesus in some way, 1639 01:16:01,746 --> 01:16:03,389 but all that is is a claim. 1640 01:16:03,389 --> 01:16:05,233 - [Jeremiah] Some people look at Martin Luther King 1641 01:16:05,233 --> 01:16:06,583 as our savior. 1642 01:16:06,583 --> 01:16:09,391 He did give his life for us, he did die for us, 1643 01:16:09,391 --> 01:16:10,485 he did sacrifice. 1644 01:16:10,485 --> 01:16:13,657 - He did not wash away my sins. (chuckles) 1645 01:16:13,657 --> 01:16:16,337 His blood could not wash away my sins. 1646 01:16:16,337 --> 01:16:19,157 I do thank him, he was a great man, 1647 01:16:19,157 --> 01:16:21,353 and he's made great strides in America, 1648 01:16:21,353 --> 01:16:23,825 but the blood of Jesus was the only blood 1649 01:16:23,825 --> 01:16:27,427 that could wash away my sins and save me. 1650 01:16:27,427 --> 01:16:29,115 - You know that this don't make no sense. 1651 01:16:29,115 --> 01:16:30,207 You know it don't make no sense. 1652 01:16:30,207 --> 01:16:33,535 You know good and well nobody walked on water. 1653 01:16:33,535 --> 01:16:34,380 You know that. 1654 01:16:34,380 --> 01:16:37,826 Everything in your being tells you that did not happen. 1655 01:16:37,826 --> 01:16:39,664 Everything in your being tells you 1656 01:16:39,664 --> 01:16:42,385 no one took two fish and five loaves of bread 1657 01:16:42,385 --> 01:16:46,528 and fed 5,000 men, not counting women and children. 1658 01:16:46,528 --> 01:16:48,299 Everything in your intellect tells you 1659 01:16:48,299 --> 01:16:50,355 that doesn't even make sense. 1660 01:16:50,355 --> 01:16:54,202 - Definitely the blood of Jesus, that he shed for us 1661 01:16:54,202 --> 01:16:56,373 is better and best for our life. 1662 01:16:56,373 --> 01:16:57,206 - [Jeremiah] All right. 1663 01:16:57,206 --> 01:16:58,207 - The one that can get you into heaven. 1664 01:16:58,207 --> 01:16:59,468 - [All] The blood of Jesus. 1665 01:16:59,468 --> 01:17:00,300 - [Jeremiah] The blood of Jesus. 1666 01:17:00,300 --> 01:17:01,134 - Amen. - Oh yes. 1667 01:17:01,134 --> 01:17:01,967 - [Jeremiah] All right. 1668 01:17:01,967 --> 01:17:03,406 - Oh, definitely the blood of Jesus, 1669 01:17:03,406 --> 01:17:04,627 and I'll tell you why. 1670 01:17:04,627 --> 01:17:07,327 Because the blood of ancestors, that's great, 1671 01:17:07,327 --> 01:17:09,110 they fought for us and things like that, 1672 01:17:09,110 --> 01:17:10,702 but Jesus redeemed us. 1673 01:17:10,702 --> 01:17:12,852 My ancestors could've brought cancer to me, too. 1674 01:17:12,852 --> 01:17:14,603 They could've brought tumors to me, too. 1675 01:17:14,603 --> 01:17:16,636 They could've brought me a whole lot of generational crises, 1676 01:17:16,636 --> 01:17:19,614 too, but that blood of Jesus redeems, 1677 01:17:19,614 --> 01:17:21,954 washes, and takes away. 1678 01:17:21,954 --> 01:17:25,088 - I mean, you know, any of you should know 1679 01:17:25,088 --> 01:17:26,100 that the blood of Jesus 1680 01:17:26,100 --> 01:17:30,050 is the most important thing spiritually. 1681 01:17:30,050 --> 01:17:34,690 - [Jeremiah] Now how do you know that Jesus is real? 1682 01:17:34,690 --> 01:17:38,278 - I know he's real because I'm alive today. 1683 01:17:38,278 --> 01:17:42,445 Last year, this time, I was addicted to drugs and alcohol. 1684 01:17:45,041 --> 01:17:47,666 - You're giving credit to a specter 1685 01:17:47,666 --> 01:17:48,772 for something you did yourself. 1686 01:17:48,772 --> 01:17:52,105 Maybe your idealistic notion of a person 1687 01:17:53,376 --> 01:17:56,907 or a god named Jesus called to you, 1688 01:17:56,907 --> 01:17:59,848 meant something to you, that gave you some aspiration 1689 01:17:59,848 --> 01:18:04,809 to pick yourself up and start anew, but I would say 1690 01:18:04,809 --> 01:18:07,904 that you should be giving that credit to yourself, 1691 01:18:07,904 --> 01:18:12,615 not to a deity, but it can't be proven to exist. 1692 01:18:12,615 --> 01:18:15,150 There is no such person as Jesus. 1693 01:18:15,150 --> 01:18:17,916 Maybe some Mexicans named Jesus. 1694 01:18:17,916 --> 01:18:20,465 - Even the doctors that you thank God that they saved you, 1695 01:18:20,465 --> 01:18:21,663 you don't even thank the doctor, 1696 01:18:21,663 --> 01:18:24,575 you just go ahead and thank God, but he just cured you. 1697 01:18:24,575 --> 01:18:25,574 - [Woman In White] He went through 10 years 1698 01:18:25,574 --> 01:18:27,960 of medical school, sleepless nights. 1699 01:18:27,960 --> 01:18:28,812 - He did all of that, 1700 01:18:28,812 --> 01:18:31,062 and you didn't give him any credit for it. 1701 01:18:31,062 --> 01:18:33,812 You just thank God automatically. 1702 01:18:34,924 --> 01:18:37,080 That's just so selfish to me. 1703 01:18:37,080 --> 01:18:40,830 - And it's been, April will be a year for me. 1704 01:18:44,152 --> 01:18:46,737 And my faith has gotten stronger 1705 01:18:46,737 --> 01:18:49,639 since I've not been using. 1706 01:18:49,639 --> 01:18:53,028 - There's also people that have just gone through so much, 1707 01:18:53,028 --> 01:18:54,670 like, traumatic experiences in their life, 1708 01:18:54,670 --> 01:18:55,827 and all types of stuff, 1709 01:18:55,827 --> 01:18:57,374 so they really do start seein' stuff, 1710 01:18:57,374 --> 01:19:00,726 but the mind is like the strongest thing we have, 1711 01:19:00,726 --> 01:19:03,627 like your mind can play all kinds of tricks on you 1712 01:19:03,627 --> 01:19:04,813 if you let it. 1713 01:19:04,813 --> 01:19:07,153 - [Jeremiah] Do you think that you could've overcome 1714 01:19:07,153 --> 01:19:10,090 your addiction without Jesus? - No. 1715 01:19:10,090 --> 01:19:12,624 - [Jeremiah] Just on your own volition, your own will. 1716 01:19:12,624 --> 01:19:14,614 - No, I've tried that, it never worked. 1717 01:19:14,614 --> 01:19:18,531 I've been in and out of addiction for 15 years. 1718 01:19:19,452 --> 01:19:21,764 So no, my way does not work. 1719 01:19:21,764 --> 01:19:22,848 His way does. 1720 01:19:24,040 --> 01:19:25,222 - If you're the kind of person 1721 01:19:25,222 --> 01:19:28,252 that can't fight your alcoholism by any other means 1722 01:19:28,252 --> 01:19:31,081 than belief in God, then by all means, 1723 01:19:31,081 --> 01:19:33,296 do what you have to do to be sober, 1724 01:19:33,296 --> 01:19:34,713 even if you have to trick yourself 1725 01:19:34,713 --> 01:19:36,103 and believe in this higher power. 1726 01:19:36,103 --> 01:19:37,730 We'd rather have you sober than not, 1727 01:19:37,730 --> 01:19:40,028 and if that's what you need, fine. 1728 01:19:40,028 --> 01:19:42,226 But there's a lot of people who find secular alternatives 1729 01:19:42,226 --> 01:19:43,838 to sobriety as well. 1730 01:19:43,838 --> 01:19:46,371 - I'm not going to deny your senses, 1731 01:19:46,371 --> 01:19:50,539 I'm going to deny your attribution to those senses 1732 01:19:52,016 --> 01:19:54,224 because you don't know any better, 1733 01:19:54,224 --> 01:19:55,157 you see what I'm saying? 1734 01:19:55,157 --> 01:19:56,696 In other words, if you're taught 1735 01:19:56,696 --> 01:19:58,294 this is your cognitive reality, 1736 01:19:58,294 --> 01:20:01,418 that everything that's happening to you is Jesus at work. 1737 01:20:01,418 --> 01:20:03,206 It's much like the little child 1738 01:20:03,206 --> 01:20:07,112 who attributes the gifts under the Christmas tree 1739 01:20:07,112 --> 01:20:09,978 to Santa Claus because they don't know any better. 1740 01:20:09,978 --> 01:20:11,358 They don't know that their mommy and daddy 1741 01:20:11,358 --> 01:20:12,367 put those gifts there. 1742 01:20:12,367 --> 01:20:13,636 - The so-called religious experience, 1743 01:20:13,636 --> 01:20:16,302 the spiritual experience that believers talk about 1744 01:20:16,302 --> 01:20:19,013 that makes their life sublime, 1745 01:20:19,013 --> 01:20:22,207 that gives them these feelings of nobility or peace 1746 01:20:22,207 --> 01:20:25,490 or all that, they have no corner on that, 1747 01:20:25,490 --> 01:20:27,040 that's a human experience. 1748 01:20:27,040 --> 01:20:28,957 And for me, it's music. 1749 01:20:30,032 --> 01:20:33,380 I play jazz piano, I play in jazz combos, in big bands, 1750 01:20:33,380 --> 01:20:35,534 in jazz solo, and I write music. 1751 01:20:35,534 --> 01:20:38,617 (uptempo jazz music) 1752 01:20:42,958 --> 01:20:45,888 - A lot of people say we're living in the last days. 1753 01:20:45,888 --> 01:20:47,330 Are these the end times? 1754 01:20:47,330 --> 01:20:51,112 - According to the Bible, it is, yes. 1755 01:20:51,112 --> 01:20:52,258 - We truly believe that. 1756 01:20:52,258 --> 01:20:53,717 We see everything around us, 1757 01:20:53,717 --> 01:20:56,967 the evidence is all manifesting itself. 1758 01:20:57,912 --> 01:21:02,079 Each generation is getting more corrupt than the one before, 1759 01:21:03,029 --> 01:21:06,096 and it's just spiraling all the way down. 1760 01:21:06,096 --> 01:21:08,159 And we know it had a beginning, 1761 01:21:08,159 --> 01:21:10,019 and it's gonna have an end. 1762 01:21:10,019 --> 01:21:11,168 - Now, you said that each generation, 1763 01:21:11,168 --> 01:21:14,313 the end times are comin' because of the signs of the time. 1764 01:21:14,313 --> 01:21:16,950 Now, let me ask you this, what about, 1765 01:21:16,950 --> 01:21:18,963 and this is the argument that some would have, 1766 01:21:18,963 --> 01:21:21,713 what about when we were enslaved, 1767 01:21:23,679 --> 01:21:24,978 when black people were enslaved, 1768 01:21:24,978 --> 01:21:27,212 and shackles around our neck and shackles around our feet 1769 01:21:27,212 --> 01:21:28,576 and bein' whipped. 1770 01:21:28,576 --> 01:21:32,743 Wouldn't that be a worse time than what we are in right now? 1771 01:21:33,838 --> 01:21:36,965 - I guess it would depend on you individually, 1772 01:21:36,965 --> 01:21:39,648 what your circumstances was during the time. 1773 01:21:39,648 --> 01:21:41,833 Because if you're actually a slave and being beaten 1774 01:21:41,833 --> 01:21:43,537 and a host of other ills, 1775 01:21:43,537 --> 01:21:45,757 then it would be terrible for you. 1776 01:21:45,757 --> 01:21:47,956 But if you were a slave that was favored for some reason 1777 01:21:47,956 --> 01:21:52,002 because maybe you had some talents that they find enviable 1778 01:21:52,002 --> 01:21:53,425 and that they could utilize, 1779 01:21:53,425 --> 01:21:55,862 then perhaps you were treated well. 1780 01:21:55,862 --> 01:21:59,690 (dark ominous music) 1781 01:21:59,690 --> 01:22:01,505 - Once you come to grips with the reality, 1782 01:22:01,505 --> 01:22:04,200 that the root of the tree never existed, 1783 01:22:04,200 --> 01:22:08,494 then that immediately causes the branches and the leaves 1784 01:22:08,494 --> 01:22:09,969 to disappear. 1785 01:22:09,969 --> 01:22:12,045 - [Jeremiah] If Christianity promised 1786 01:22:12,045 --> 01:22:14,012 personal redemption and freedom, 1787 01:22:14,012 --> 01:22:15,827 Africans realized very quickly 1788 01:22:15,827 --> 01:22:19,146 that it was in their best interest to kneel down, 1789 01:22:19,146 --> 01:22:21,812 bow their heads and kiss the cross. 1790 01:22:21,812 --> 01:22:23,344 They may not have heard God's voice 1791 01:22:23,344 --> 01:22:27,871 while plowing the masters' fields or see heaven's light 1792 01:22:27,871 --> 01:22:29,884 while being whipped at the whipping post, 1793 01:22:29,884 --> 01:22:33,170 but if that's what it took to free them from pain, 1794 01:22:33,170 --> 01:22:38,014 then they would make sure that they convinced their masters 1795 01:22:38,014 --> 01:22:40,887 that they had heard their voice and seen the light. 1796 01:22:40,887 --> 01:22:44,219 A. Leon Higginbotham, shades of freedom. 1797 01:22:45,659 --> 01:22:47,509 It was the the law that stated 1798 01:22:47,509 --> 01:22:50,327 that blacks were made inferior by God. 1799 01:22:50,327 --> 01:22:53,088 Therefore, to convert them into Christianity 1800 01:22:53,088 --> 01:22:57,255 was to help them understand their condition, not change it. 1801 01:22:58,639 --> 01:23:00,898 The Bible was not only used 1802 01:23:00,898 --> 01:23:03,688 to justify the enslavement of blacks, 1803 01:23:03,688 --> 01:23:07,352 but paradoxically, Jesus was the collaborator 1804 01:23:07,352 --> 01:23:09,522 of black physical enslavement 1805 01:23:09,522 --> 01:23:12,373 yet the liberator of their souls. 1806 01:23:12,373 --> 01:23:16,540 On the other hand, the story of Jesus was a necessary one. 1807 01:23:18,388 --> 01:23:21,955 Having hope in something or someone to rescue them 1808 01:23:21,955 --> 01:23:25,035 from the anguish and torment from their enslavement 1809 01:23:25,035 --> 01:23:29,846 was required for their psychological well-being. 1810 01:23:29,846 --> 01:23:32,743 Black struggle worldwide may not only be attributed 1811 01:23:32,743 --> 01:23:36,930 to once having been conquered and enslaved and subjugated, 1812 01:23:36,930 --> 01:23:40,559 but it can also be the result of a belief system 1813 01:23:40,559 --> 01:23:43,271 which robs them of time, money, 1814 01:23:43,271 --> 01:23:47,023 and the intellectual capacity to adapt to change 1815 01:23:47,023 --> 01:23:49,487 in an age of information. 1816 01:23:49,487 --> 01:23:51,657 Many will continue to accept the Bible 1817 01:23:51,657 --> 01:23:53,894 as the infallible word of God, 1818 01:23:53,894 --> 01:23:55,861 but there are those who are choosing 1819 01:23:55,861 --> 01:23:59,562 to have a personal relationship with reality. 1820 01:23:59,562 --> 01:24:00,835 (uptempo jazz music) 1821 01:24:00,835 --> 01:24:04,753 There is a rise in non-belief amongst African Americans. 1822 01:24:04,753 --> 01:24:07,034 Not from people who are immoral 1823 01:24:07,034 --> 01:24:09,498 or because of an evil force at work, 1824 01:24:09,498 --> 01:24:12,770 but because everyday people are beginning to question 1825 01:24:12,770 --> 01:24:15,577 the nonsensical aspects of their faith, 1826 01:24:15,577 --> 01:24:18,871 realizing that prayer and belief cannot bring about 1827 01:24:18,871 --> 01:24:22,674 real change, respectability, or competitiveness, 1828 01:24:22,674 --> 01:24:26,249 individual salvation battles are losing out 1829 01:24:26,249 --> 01:24:30,344 to collective wars as there is no empirical evidence 1830 01:24:30,344 --> 01:24:33,844 in the long-term benefits of blind belief. 1831 01:24:34,916 --> 01:24:37,221 Religious faith is rapidly eroding, 1832 01:24:37,221 --> 01:24:38,992 and those who continue to live 1833 01:24:38,992 --> 01:24:40,998 by depending on the supernatural 1834 01:24:40,998 --> 01:24:45,165 will ultimately perish from depending on the supernatural. 1835 01:24:46,308 --> 01:24:47,329 - The great thing about science is, 1836 01:24:47,329 --> 01:24:49,359 you know, if there's any faith that's shakeable, 1837 01:24:49,359 --> 01:24:50,541 that's the great thing about science. 1838 01:24:50,541 --> 01:24:53,326 We like to be proved wrong, unlike religions, 1839 01:24:53,326 --> 01:24:55,451 which assume the answer before they ask the question, 1840 01:24:55,451 --> 01:24:57,745 claim to know the truth before they even ask 1841 01:24:57,745 --> 01:24:59,898 what the universe is like, and never want to change. 1842 01:24:59,898 --> 01:25:04,066 - Osmosis means to absorb a concept or a belief or an idea 1843 01:25:07,309 --> 01:25:12,081 from your surroundings, not because you know it to be fact, 1844 01:25:12,081 --> 01:25:14,251 but because you heard other people say it. 1845 01:25:14,251 --> 01:25:15,615 You've heard it said in testimony, 1846 01:25:15,615 --> 01:25:17,769 you've witnessed other people's things, 1847 01:25:17,769 --> 01:25:21,009 so therefore it became your cognitive reality. 1848 01:25:21,009 --> 01:25:22,993 - It would be a true miracle 1849 01:25:22,993 --> 01:25:26,304 if there were nothing useful in the Bible. 1850 01:25:26,304 --> 01:25:27,610 It was put together by human beings 1851 01:25:27,610 --> 01:25:29,532 who had different ideas, 1852 01:25:29,532 --> 01:25:32,868 and there are some good teachings in the Bible. 1853 01:25:32,868 --> 01:25:35,064 I compare it to a garden. 1854 01:25:35,064 --> 01:25:37,380 If you had a garden that had a beautiful rose in it, 1855 01:25:37,380 --> 01:25:39,303 there's a beautiful flower over here, 1856 01:25:39,303 --> 01:25:42,668 but it's all overrun with weeds, 1857 01:25:42,668 --> 01:25:45,441 there's gopher holes, there's trash, 1858 01:25:45,441 --> 01:25:47,673 there's disease, there's dead branches, 1859 01:25:47,673 --> 01:25:50,338 but you say ignore all that stuff, look, 1860 01:25:50,338 --> 01:25:51,794 look at that pretty flower! 1861 01:25:51,794 --> 01:25:54,068 Don't I have a beautiful garden? 1862 01:25:54,068 --> 01:25:56,746 And you can say well, you have an ugly garden, 1863 01:25:56,746 --> 01:25:59,201 but that is a beautiful flower, yeah, 1864 01:25:59,201 --> 01:26:00,611 so the Bible's kind of like that. 1865 01:26:00,611 --> 01:26:03,987 - Religion has been used effectively for some good causes 1866 01:26:03,987 --> 01:26:05,103 as well as some bad causes. 1867 01:26:05,103 --> 01:26:06,389 One has to be honest about that. 1868 01:26:06,389 --> 01:26:08,121 It's not because of an inherent property of religion, 1869 01:26:08,121 --> 01:26:11,007 it's the inherent ability of religion to unify people, 1870 01:26:11,007 --> 01:26:13,052 and Martin Luther King, for example, 1871 01:26:13,052 --> 01:26:15,197 used it very effectively, I think. 1872 01:26:15,197 --> 01:26:17,396 - Belief does not give you knowledge, 1873 01:26:17,396 --> 01:26:19,645 he don't give you no knowledge 'cause you believe. 1874 01:26:19,645 --> 01:26:21,414 Faith does not give you knowledge. 1875 01:26:21,414 --> 01:26:23,406 - I did my own research, I read a lot, 1876 01:26:23,406 --> 01:26:26,093 I did my own practical research. 1877 01:26:26,093 --> 01:26:28,118 - I believe all people have irrational belief. 1878 01:26:28,118 --> 01:26:30,324 It's the inability to change these irrational beliefs 1879 01:26:30,324 --> 01:26:32,565 upon, you know, coming into new information 1880 01:26:32,565 --> 01:26:33,982 that is an issue. 1881 01:26:34,924 --> 01:26:37,960 - If people are in trouble, they go to the churches. 1882 01:26:37,960 --> 01:26:39,621 If you don't have that trouble, 1883 01:26:39,621 --> 01:26:41,000 you don't need the churches. 1884 01:26:41,000 --> 01:26:44,534 - Religion is the divider between us as a people, 1885 01:26:44,534 --> 01:26:46,237 between families. 1886 01:26:46,237 --> 01:26:49,400 - I would like to see more educators who are skeptics, 1887 01:26:49,400 --> 01:26:52,885 who are able to communicate this message 1888 01:26:52,885 --> 01:26:55,472 of being skeptical of the world around you, 1889 01:26:55,472 --> 01:26:58,958 so you can improve on the flaws of previous generations. 1890 01:26:58,958 --> 01:27:02,356 - You have to base your actions on reality. 1891 01:27:02,356 --> 01:27:04,898 If you don't, you'll only ever make stupid actions. 1892 01:27:04,898 --> 01:27:06,291 And that's the problem 1893 01:27:06,291 --> 01:27:08,494 with living a life based on illusion. 1894 01:27:08,494 --> 01:27:11,358 - Religion feeds off of low self-esteem, 1895 01:27:11,358 --> 01:27:15,448 insecurity, as well as making you feel bad 1896 01:27:15,448 --> 01:27:19,615 about urges and feelings that are totally natural. 1897 01:27:21,249 --> 01:27:23,374 - You know, there have been many, many gods, 1898 01:27:23,374 --> 01:27:25,059 and they've all eventually died. 1899 01:27:25,059 --> 01:27:26,759 - We were all afraid, I was afraid 1900 01:27:26,759 --> 01:27:29,259 because it was the fear of God 1901 01:27:31,099 --> 01:27:34,067 that they have put into me when I was five years old. 1902 01:27:34,067 --> 01:27:36,886 - I think rise of non-belief is simply the rise of science, 1903 01:27:36,886 --> 01:27:38,218 the rise of the evidence of the fact 1904 01:27:38,218 --> 01:27:41,395 as people understand more about the physical world. 1905 01:27:41,395 --> 01:27:43,611 - Putting your faith, especially blind faith, 1906 01:27:43,611 --> 01:27:48,478 in an idea that hasn't been working for the community 1907 01:27:48,478 --> 01:27:50,385 for a long time. 1908 01:27:50,385 --> 01:27:53,547 - I think if we turn to a deity 1909 01:27:53,547 --> 01:27:56,379 to do the things that need to be done, they won't get done. 1910 01:27:56,379 --> 01:27:59,499 We're putting our humanity down, 1911 01:27:59,499 --> 01:28:03,558 we should be getting off our knees and getting to work. 1912 01:28:03,558 --> 01:28:04,414 - You gotta question 1913 01:28:04,414 --> 01:28:06,431 something about what you believe in sometimes. 1914 01:28:06,431 --> 01:28:11,110 - It's about researching, it's about developing as a people, 1915 01:28:11,110 --> 01:28:13,277 so I feel like if we've been into religion 1916 01:28:13,277 --> 01:28:16,413 for so many years, and we're still at the bottom, 1917 01:28:16,413 --> 01:28:18,255 it's time to change. 1918 01:28:18,255 --> 01:28:22,422 ("Squared" by Greydon Square and The Compton Effect) 1919 01:28:35,788 --> 01:28:36,734 ♫ One two 1920 01:28:36,734 --> 01:28:37,813 ♫ My lyrics describe the physics 1921 01:28:37,813 --> 01:28:39,074 ♫ Of the next time, yo 1922 01:28:39,074 --> 01:28:40,252 ♫ The collisions are even measured 1923 01:28:40,252 --> 01:28:41,471 ♫ In electron vaults 1924 01:28:41,471 --> 01:28:42,921 ♫ See, you're tryin' to convince me 1925 01:28:42,921 --> 01:28:44,050 ♫ To find some Jehovah 1926 01:28:44,050 --> 01:28:46,485 ♫ Me, I'm tryin' to find the same god as Spinoza 1927 01:28:46,485 --> 01:28:48,994 ♫ Most of the universe, hydrogen and helium 1928 01:28:48,994 --> 01:28:50,266 ♫ Galaxies in the billions 1929 01:28:50,266 --> 01:28:51,490 ♫ Traces of beryllium 1930 01:28:51,490 --> 01:28:54,077 ♫ Inhospitable to to most life that we experience 1931 01:28:54,077 --> 01:28:55,362 ♫ That's why we use loose the terms 1932 01:28:55,362 --> 01:28:56,541 ♫ Eternity and infinite 1933 01:28:56,541 --> 01:28:58,976 ♫ But really everything experienced is finite 1934 01:28:58,976 --> 01:29:00,075 ♫ I got the jaws of life 1935 01:29:00,075 --> 01:29:01,746 ♫ Ready to pry open your mind like 1936 01:29:01,746 --> 01:29:03,237 ♫ Start in tiny large numbers 1937 01:29:03,237 --> 01:29:04,308 ♫ I come to show you 1938 01:29:04,308 --> 01:29:05,626 ♫ Another zero you can stack at the end 1939 01:29:05,626 --> 01:29:08,523 ♫ Each one represents another factor of 10 1940 01:29:08,523 --> 01:29:09,356 ♫ Grow it 1941 01:29:09,356 --> 01:29:10,960 ♫ Factors is where the mathematics begin 1942 01:29:10,960 --> 01:29:12,446 ♫ Have to explain in dimensions 1943 01:29:12,446 --> 01:29:14,173 ♫ Below the one that you're in and show it 1944 01:29:14,173 --> 01:29:16,594 ♫ This is grossness, fecal matter overdosage 1945 01:29:16,594 --> 01:29:18,796 ♫ Soak it, every emcee is a poet 1946 01:29:18,796 --> 01:29:21,173 ♫ But not every rapper emcees and you know it 1947 01:29:21,173 --> 01:29:22,344 ♫ I'll believe in miracles 1948 01:29:22,344 --> 01:29:24,786 ♫ when I see a main stream rapper perform a lyrical 1949 01:29:24,786 --> 01:29:26,443 ♫ Without lookin' pitiful 1950 01:29:26,443 --> 01:29:27,460 ♫ I spit it uber-stupid 1951 01:29:27,460 --> 01:29:29,485 ♫ With less viscosity than super-fluids 1952 01:29:29,485 --> 01:29:31,360 ♫ Zero friction between me and the music 1953 01:29:31,360 --> 01:29:33,846 ♫ People say the words you use are too long for us 1954 01:29:33,846 --> 01:29:38,013 ♫ Scientists say the words I use aren't long enough 144296

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