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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,379 --> 00:00:04,379 foreign 2 00:00:10,759 --> 00:00:16,618 would be what would the general populace 3 00:00:13,980 --> 00:00:19,278 be more skeptical of Bigfoot or 4 00:00:16,618 --> 00:00:19,278 aliens 5 00:00:19,399 --> 00:00:23,909 [Music] 6 00:00:24,980 --> 00:00:29,640 definitely I mean Bigfoot no question 7 00:00:27,239 --> 00:00:32,460 but I'm definitely more tailored to be 8 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:35,100 fascinated by ufology 9 00:00:32,460 --> 00:00:36,109 there is something that those people are 10 00:00:35,100 --> 00:00:38,460 drawn to 11 00:00:36,109 --> 00:00:42,600 [Music] 12 00:00:38,460 --> 00:00:44,160 I love exploring that plane it's color 13 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:45,960 it's 14 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:50,640 Joy 15 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:53,160 it's mystery and living in that mystery 16 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:55,140 I really think that it's okay that 17 00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:58,019 people go out in search of these things 18 00:00:55,140 --> 00:01:00,239 and want to know more about life Beyond 19 00:00:58,020 --> 00:01:03,539 Where We Are 20 00:01:00,238 --> 00:01:06,420 there's something there 21 00:01:03,539 --> 00:01:09,960 I really think people who go in search 22 00:01:06,420 --> 00:01:11,760 of Bigfoot and I think people who go in 23 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:14,099 search of aliens I think they're very 24 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:16,680 similar and and here's why 25 00:01:14,099 --> 00:01:18,959 a lot of people who studied and there 26 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:22,140 are people who take just simply a 27 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:24,658 scholarly academic approach to the study 28 00:01:22,140 --> 00:01:26,460 of the unknown and that's what science 29 00:01:24,659 --> 00:01:28,259 is all about 30 00:01:26,459 --> 00:01:31,859 you have a question that you don't know 31 00:01:28,259 --> 00:01:34,019 the answer to you have a hypothesis you 32 00:01:31,859 --> 00:01:36,180 test that hypothesis with evidence and 33 00:01:34,019 --> 00:01:39,478 if your hypothesis proves to be untrue 34 00:01:36,180 --> 00:01:40,860 you come back and you re-hypothesize it 35 00:01:39,478 --> 00:01:42,780 was Harry and the Hendersons the movie 36 00:01:40,859 --> 00:01:46,739 Harry and the Hendersons that that 37 00:01:42,780 --> 00:01:50,460 really sparked my interest in Bigfoot 38 00:01:46,739 --> 00:01:53,759 and similarly to ET which sparked my 39 00:01:50,459 --> 00:01:57,899 interest in extraterrestrials right 40 00:01:53,759 --> 00:02:00,420 there was this infusion of Love of 41 00:01:57,899 --> 00:02:01,500 tenderness of kindness in both of those 42 00:02:00,420 --> 00:02:04,579 films 43 00:02:01,500 --> 00:02:08,219 and so from the earliest age my interest 44 00:02:04,578 --> 00:02:10,139 in anything paranormal extraterrestrial 45 00:02:08,219 --> 00:02:13,080 and origin 46 00:02:10,139 --> 00:02:15,899 was grounded in this this idea that 47 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:18,239 perhaps there are species out there 48 00:02:15,900 --> 00:02:20,900 yet undiscovered or proven 49 00:02:18,239 --> 00:02:26,219 to exist in the mainstream 50 00:02:20,900 --> 00:02:29,280 that are not caged and restricted 51 00:02:26,219 --> 00:02:32,120 by the same kind of shortcomings that 52 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:32,120 human beings have 53 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:39,060 the biggest difference between 54 00:02:35,959 --> 00:02:41,640 cryptozoology and ufology whether it's 55 00:02:39,060 --> 00:02:44,280 doing research speaking at conferences 56 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:47,039 lectures TVs shows things like that the 57 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:49,620 biggest difference is that a lot of UFO 58 00:02:47,039 --> 00:02:51,780 research is sort of historical going 59 00:02:49,620 --> 00:02:54,659 through files 60 00:02:51,780 --> 00:02:56,340 speaking with Witnesses cryptozoology 61 00:02:54,659 --> 00:02:58,680 because it's the study of unknown 62 00:02:56,340 --> 00:03:01,140 animals there's a great deal of research 63 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:04,040 done out in the field in forests in 64 00:03:01,139 --> 00:03:06,439 woods in Lakes mountains so 65 00:03:04,039 --> 00:03:08,659 cryptozoology lends it more to 66 00:03:06,439 --> 00:03:12,900 Expeditions and being on the road 67 00:03:08,659 --> 00:03:16,378 whereas ufology is scrutinizing cases 68 00:03:12,900 --> 00:03:19,980 you know and documents and files so one 69 00:03:16,378 --> 00:03:23,518 is very much Outdoors another one is 70 00:03:19,979 --> 00:03:24,899 pouring over material that kind of thing 71 00:03:23,519 --> 00:03:27,959 so there's definitely a bit of a 72 00:03:24,900 --> 00:03:30,360 difference I think between the UFO and 73 00:03:27,959 --> 00:03:31,800 uh Bigfoot Community Bigfoot Community 74 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:32,819 tell them to be a little more grounded a 75 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:34,140 lot of these guys are just guys that 76 00:03:32,818 --> 00:03:36,299 live out in the woods 77 00:03:34,139 --> 00:03:38,279 you know they're pretty down to earth 78 00:03:36,300 --> 00:03:39,780 and then other animals and other species 79 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:41,459 you know they just 80 00:03:39,780 --> 00:03:43,739 either I've had I've seen something 81 00:03:41,459 --> 00:03:45,360 unusual they can't explain you know they 82 00:03:43,739 --> 00:03:46,980 don't think of it in terms of I think so 83 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:48,239 much in terms of like anthropology or 84 00:03:46,979 --> 00:03:49,378 biology a lot of these guys because 85 00:03:48,239 --> 00:03:50,759 these guys some of these guys are 86 00:03:49,378 --> 00:03:52,979 hunters or they're just guys that live 87 00:03:50,759 --> 00:03:54,899 on you know in the woods in there 88 00:03:52,979 --> 00:03:56,818 pretty regular people 89 00:03:54,900 --> 00:04:00,120 it doesn't attract 90 00:03:56,818 --> 00:04:01,738 as many crazy people to or let's say 91 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:03,000 delusional to be honest you know as the 92 00:04:01,739 --> 00:04:04,799 UFO field does 93 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:07,019 and it's not as 94 00:04:04,799 --> 00:04:08,879 there's less politics I think especially 95 00:04:07,019 --> 00:04:12,000 today the UFO field is very politically 96 00:04:08,878 --> 00:04:14,878 motivated you know everything it's it's 97 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:17,220 been hijacked a little bit by 98 00:04:14,878 --> 00:04:19,620 a certain group of people that were you 99 00:04:17,220 --> 00:04:23,400 at the UFOs are coming second behind 100 00:04:19,620 --> 00:04:25,379 their worship of certain politicians or 101 00:04:23,399 --> 00:04:27,000 you know it's it gets tied up with like 102 00:04:25,379 --> 00:04:28,978 the Q Anon phenomena which I personally 103 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:31,199 think is utterly ridiculous you know so 104 00:04:28,978 --> 00:04:32,939 there's a lot more conspiracy theory out 105 00:04:31,199 --> 00:04:34,680 there that I think are kind of going off 106 00:04:32,939 --> 00:04:35,759 the deep end and it attracts a lot of 107 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:37,740 those guys 108 00:04:35,759 --> 00:04:40,259 yeah it's interesting because there is 109 00:04:37,740 --> 00:04:43,139 not much cultural crossover between the 110 00:04:40,259 --> 00:04:45,120 alien fans the ancient alien fans the 111 00:04:43,139 --> 00:04:47,759 conspiracy theorists about governments 112 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:50,100 and and stuff like that the Bigfoot 113 00:04:47,759 --> 00:04:51,900 people the ghost people and there really 114 00:04:50,100 --> 00:04:53,400 should because basically we're all the 115 00:04:51,899 --> 00:04:55,679 same in the sense if you put us all 116 00:04:53,399 --> 00:04:59,219 together you'd have a really really 117 00:04:55,680 --> 00:05:01,319 massive block of of Voters and political 118 00:04:59,220 --> 00:05:04,199 activists because we're all people that 119 00:05:01,319 --> 00:05:06,418 recognize in one way or another that the 120 00:05:04,199 --> 00:05:08,759 world that we're presented on TV is not 121 00:05:06,418 --> 00:05:10,859 reality that there is a much deeper 122 00:05:08,759 --> 00:05:12,540 maybe darker but certainly more 123 00:05:10,860 --> 00:05:14,280 interesting reality that we exist in 124 00:05:12,540 --> 00:05:16,560 than what we're we're sold every day 125 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:18,059 there's a lot more things going on than 126 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:20,040 just who's going to win the Super Bowl 127 00:05:18,060 --> 00:05:22,079 the Chiefs by the way 128 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:23,520 um you know there's more stuff going on 129 00:05:22,079 --> 00:05:25,019 than that and the you know the 130 00:05:23,519 --> 00:05:26,819 impeachment for us that's going on right 131 00:05:25,019 --> 00:05:29,038 now it's all it's all for show and it's 132 00:05:26,819 --> 00:05:31,379 all to keep us distracted from the 133 00:05:29,038 --> 00:05:33,300 ghosts and the bigfoots and the things 134 00:05:31,379 --> 00:05:35,399 that don't fit and the aliens and the 135 00:05:33,300 --> 00:05:37,918 Ancient Aliens is to keep us from really 136 00:05:35,399 --> 00:05:39,179 focused seen on the truth because if we 137 00:05:37,918 --> 00:05:41,099 did focus on that we might get 138 00:05:39,180 --> 00:05:42,360 distracted and not really think it was 139 00:05:41,100 --> 00:05:44,539 that important to go to work tomorrow 140 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:47,400 and that's what keeps the engine of 141 00:05:44,538 --> 00:05:49,139 civilization running we had a 142 00:05:47,399 --> 00:05:52,038 fascinating conversation with Mike Barra 143 00:05:49,139 --> 00:05:52,038 on the way up the mountain 144 00:05:52,439 --> 00:05:57,719 he was taught this is before this whole 145 00:05:54,918 --> 00:05:59,939 virus thing came out and he started he 146 00:05:57,720 --> 00:06:03,300 was saying that yeah I got an Insider 147 00:05:59,939 --> 00:06:06,360 see a guy that has said that we have a 148 00:06:03,300 --> 00:06:09,840 virus that targets certain 149 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:11,400 ethnic groups and we're and the whole 150 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:13,319 everybody in the truck were just like 151 00:06:11,399 --> 00:06:14,758 what are you talking about and it's 152 00:06:13,319 --> 00:06:16,439 right as the whole thing was kind of 153 00:06:14,759 --> 00:06:18,900 Breaking Free but it doesn't look like 154 00:06:16,439 --> 00:06:21,060 that was the you know it just started in 155 00:06:18,899 --> 00:06:23,038 China or whatever but it was that's you 156 00:06:21,060 --> 00:06:25,139 know you get all kinds of Insider info 157 00:06:23,038 --> 00:06:26,879 from these guys and then when they say 158 00:06:25,139 --> 00:06:28,259 they got a contact it's hard not you 159 00:06:26,879 --> 00:06:30,839 know 160 00:06:28,259 --> 00:06:32,759 I really think that it's okay that 161 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:35,519 people go out in search of these things 162 00:06:32,759 --> 00:06:37,919 and want to know more about space and 163 00:06:35,519 --> 00:06:40,620 want to know more about life beyond 164 00:06:37,918 --> 00:06:42,538 where we are we have predilections to 165 00:06:40,620 --> 00:06:44,538 violence 166 00:06:42,538 --> 00:06:48,060 to disorder 167 00:06:44,538 --> 00:06:51,538 Vengeance anger hatred all these things 168 00:06:48,060 --> 00:06:52,918 and and when I saw those movies when I 169 00:06:51,538 --> 00:06:54,478 was a child 170 00:06:52,918 --> 00:06:57,359 I thought what if there really is a 171 00:06:54,478 --> 00:07:00,180 species out there that was kind 172 00:06:57,360 --> 00:07:03,900 and compassionate and they were not a 173 00:07:00,180 --> 00:07:06,418 species of War or conflict there are 174 00:07:03,899 --> 00:07:08,818 scientific species right like ET the 175 00:07:06,418 --> 00:07:10,439 Extraterrestrial or Harry and the 176 00:07:08,819 --> 00:07:12,479 Hendersons that maybe all these settings 177 00:07:10,439 --> 00:07:14,939 of Bigfoots which 178 00:07:12,478 --> 00:07:18,060 keep their distance for the most part 179 00:07:14,939 --> 00:07:19,800 Sasquatch or Yeti 180 00:07:18,060 --> 00:07:22,019 that they're intelligent enough to stay 181 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:24,060 away from us because maybe they don't 182 00:07:22,019 --> 00:07:25,500 want to get involved with our conflicts 183 00:07:24,060 --> 00:07:27,959 and they can see how aggressive we can 184 00:07:25,500 --> 00:07:30,300 be not that we always are 185 00:07:27,959 --> 00:07:31,318 um but we have people out there that are 186 00:07:30,300 --> 00:07:33,660 actually 187 00:07:31,319 --> 00:07:37,020 with guns hunting for bigfoot which I 188 00:07:33,660 --> 00:07:39,900 just think is absolutely absurd and I 189 00:07:37,019 --> 00:07:42,000 highly highly condemn it I'm gonna 190 00:07:39,899 --> 00:07:43,258 really just ticks me off that people do 191 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:45,478 that 192 00:07:43,259 --> 00:07:46,919 um because there's just not enough good 193 00:07:45,478 --> 00:07:50,098 evidence 194 00:07:46,918 --> 00:07:52,198 that I've seen that Bigfoot or Sasquatch 195 00:07:50,098 --> 00:07:54,478 is 196 00:07:52,199 --> 00:07:55,978 aggressive and violent towards human 197 00:07:54,478 --> 00:07:58,500 beings 198 00:07:55,978 --> 00:08:01,019 um they may be at times confrontational 199 00:07:58,500 --> 00:08:04,199 in that they approach and come close to 200 00:08:01,019 --> 00:08:07,799 us to eyewitnesses 201 00:08:04,199 --> 00:08:10,680 but that does not justify 202 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:13,280 looking for a trophy just to prove that 203 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:16,918 some species exists because again for me 204 00:08:13,279 --> 00:08:20,899 it's something more meta it's bigger the 205 00:08:16,918 --> 00:08:22,560 the search for strange creatures or 206 00:08:20,899 --> 00:08:26,818 extraterrestrials visiting here whatever 207 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:29,399 you're searching for for me it all means 208 00:08:26,819 --> 00:08:31,800 something much bigger than ourselves 209 00:08:29,399 --> 00:08:35,399 for me that's one of the main reasons 210 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:37,799 why I kind of like cryptozoology in many 211 00:08:35,399 --> 00:08:41,458 ways more than ufology because I enjoy 212 00:08:37,799 --> 00:08:44,098 the sort of road trip Expedition aspect 213 00:08:41,458 --> 00:08:46,559 of it hitting the road and potentially 214 00:08:44,099 --> 00:08:49,080 you know staking out at a lake where 215 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:52,259 something's been seen for seven days you 216 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:55,500 know for me that's more exciting than 217 00:08:52,259 --> 00:08:57,000 just pouring over something that's been 218 00:08:55,500 --> 00:08:58,799 released on the freedom information act 219 00:08:57,000 --> 00:09:02,100 from 50 years ago which is really still 220 00:08:58,799 --> 00:09:04,379 core material but I kind of like that 221 00:09:02,100 --> 00:09:06,480 sort of hitting the road angle more than 222 00:09:04,379 --> 00:09:08,759 anything else yeah 223 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:10,800 personally I think both 224 00:09:08,759 --> 00:09:12,539 UFOs and Bitcoin are equally believable 225 00:09:10,799 --> 00:09:14,579 but for different reasons I think 226 00:09:12,539 --> 00:09:15,419 because the UFO phenomena we have so 227 00:09:14,580 --> 00:09:17,160 much 228 00:09:15,419 --> 00:09:18,179 evidence now I don't want to say proof 229 00:09:17,159 --> 00:09:20,639 because we don't have the Smoking Gun 230 00:09:18,179 --> 00:09:22,259 you know but obviously recently we've 231 00:09:20,639 --> 00:09:23,939 seen how various governments including 232 00:09:22,259 --> 00:09:25,620 ours have admitted to the fact that 233 00:09:23,940 --> 00:09:28,800 there are flying objects out there they 234 00:09:25,620 --> 00:09:31,139 can't explain we have a paper trail you 235 00:09:28,799 --> 00:09:33,659 know that for example John Greenwald at 236 00:09:31,139 --> 00:09:35,699 The Black Vault has been able to dig up 237 00:09:33,659 --> 00:09:38,399 that talk about UFOs from official 238 00:09:35,700 --> 00:09:39,360 capacity in the US government other you 239 00:09:38,399 --> 00:09:40,679 know governments around the world have 240 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:42,720 admitted to the fact that yeah these 241 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:44,219 things fly around we have a plethora of 242 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:45,959 footage at this point I mean granted a 243 00:09:44,220 --> 00:09:47,300 lot of it's fake but a plethora of good 244 00:09:45,958 --> 00:09:49,199 footage pictures 245 00:09:47,299 --> 00:09:51,838 accounts you know throughout the entire 246 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:54,240 world so there's a lot there 247 00:09:51,839 --> 00:09:57,839 you know with Bigfoot we have much less 248 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:59,820 I think and but on the other hand 249 00:09:57,839 --> 00:10:01,500 um 10 years ago I would say UFOs are 250 00:09:59,820 --> 00:10:04,200 more believable in Bigfoot but since 251 00:10:01,500 --> 00:10:06,480 we've all all that we know now about 252 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:08,519 the fossil record and much further about 253 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:10,320 going back to genetics have proven that 254 00:10:08,519 --> 00:10:14,339 something like Bigfoot only could exist 255 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:15,839 but did exist you know a lot a bunch of 256 00:10:14,339 --> 00:10:17,580 times the last few million years so if 257 00:10:15,839 --> 00:10:18,959 it was possible then 258 00:10:17,580 --> 00:10:21,000 certainly there's no reason for it not 259 00:10:18,958 --> 00:10:22,559 to be possible now the only question is 260 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:24,899 whether it could stay hidden in the 261 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:27,179 modern world definitely I mean Bigfoot 262 00:10:24,899 --> 00:10:28,919 no question it's out there but I'm 263 00:10:27,179 --> 00:10:32,159 definitely more 264 00:10:28,919 --> 00:10:36,199 um tailored to be fascinated by ufology 265 00:10:32,159 --> 00:10:36,199 and and the technology 266 00:10:36,778 --> 00:10:42,659 do I have no problem whatsoever with a 267 00:10:39,899 --> 00:10:44,399 person who wants to know or go out and 268 00:10:42,659 --> 00:10:46,919 investigate whether or not there's a 269 00:10:44,399 --> 00:10:49,879 life beyond our solar system I don't 270 00:10:46,919 --> 00:10:49,879 know how you do that 271 00:10:50,220 --> 00:10:56,759 I have through my involvement with 272 00:10:54,000 --> 00:11:00,120 UFO research for the government and now 273 00:10:56,759 --> 00:11:01,980 I suppose as as somebody who writes and 274 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:05,339 broadcasts on this I interact with the 275 00:11:01,980 --> 00:11:08,459 UFO Community I have a good knowledge I 276 00:11:05,339 --> 00:11:10,820 suppose of of ufology for want of a 277 00:11:08,458 --> 00:11:14,879 better word I know that there are other 278 00:11:10,820 --> 00:11:17,579 Mysteries are the fields of study so we 279 00:11:14,879 --> 00:11:20,399 have for example all sorts of anomalous 280 00:11:17,578 --> 00:11:22,559 creatures seen all around the the world 281 00:11:20,399 --> 00:11:25,860 monsters and and 282 00:11:22,559 --> 00:11:27,859 um I suppose most famously Bigfoot 283 00:11:25,860 --> 00:11:30,959 say and you have the whole 284 00:11:27,860 --> 00:11:33,959 cryptozoological community 285 00:11:30,958 --> 00:11:36,619 I suspect there are similarities 286 00:11:33,958 --> 00:11:40,199 differences between those communities 287 00:11:36,620 --> 00:11:41,700 well I've been interested in yeah I 288 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:45,740 guess a lot of different things but to 289 00:11:41,700 --> 00:11:48,600 see the intertwining of the ufology 290 00:11:45,740 --> 00:11:50,459 ufology we have that subject but when 291 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:52,320 you start going down that road and you 292 00:11:50,458 --> 00:11:54,599 start opening that that box it's 293 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:57,778 literally Pandora's Box because you will 294 00:11:54,600 --> 00:12:00,060 discover as I have 295 00:11:57,778 --> 00:12:02,399 what is reality what are we doing here 296 00:12:00,059 --> 00:12:03,958 what why what what are what is a human 297 00:12:02,399 --> 00:12:05,820 being what is the purpose of our 298 00:12:03,958 --> 00:12:07,739 existence you know all of these big big 299 00:12:05,820 --> 00:12:09,839 questions 300 00:12:07,740 --> 00:12:11,519 you ask and you go deeper and you go 301 00:12:09,839 --> 00:12:12,660 deeper and you may find some answers you 302 00:12:11,519 --> 00:12:15,419 may find you know and it's very 303 00:12:12,659 --> 00:12:17,819 individualized but uh it's all 304 00:12:15,419 --> 00:12:19,919 interconnected so ghosts you know you 305 00:12:17,820 --> 00:12:22,740 mentioned Bigfoot earlier you know the 306 00:12:19,919 --> 00:12:24,778 indigenous teachings cultures but other 307 00:12:22,740 --> 00:12:27,539 religious belief systems it's all 308 00:12:24,778 --> 00:12:30,360 connected and it's all intertwined to 309 00:12:27,539 --> 00:12:32,639 the bigger greater story of what is it 310 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:34,800 to be human so I think the positive and 311 00:12:32,639 --> 00:12:38,159 negative are two sides of the same coin 312 00:12:34,799 --> 00:12:42,299 for both cryptozoology and ufology 313 00:12:38,159 --> 00:12:45,958 so again the seeking I think is a a sort 314 00:12:42,299 --> 00:12:47,899 of mystical Quest so Ghost Hunters I'm 315 00:12:45,958 --> 00:12:51,479 cryptozoologists 316 00:12:47,899 --> 00:12:53,940 ufologists whatever it is 317 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:55,259 they are seeking something that is 318 00:12:53,940 --> 00:12:58,980 bigger 319 00:12:55,259 --> 00:13:02,578 than what conventional thinking tells us 320 00:12:58,980 --> 00:13:04,980 our reality is beyond our five senses 321 00:13:02,578 --> 00:13:07,919 and science has teased this right that 322 00:13:04,980 --> 00:13:10,980 the world is so much bigger 323 00:13:07,919 --> 00:13:15,419 the universe is so much more magical and 324 00:13:10,980 --> 00:13:17,879 diverse than we may have imagined but it 325 00:13:15,419 --> 00:13:20,278 seems to me that our imagination often 326 00:13:17,879 --> 00:13:22,139 drives 327 00:13:20,278 --> 00:13:24,600 the search for answers we have to sort 328 00:13:22,139 --> 00:13:26,759 of imagine what could be before we can 329 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:29,278 even seek it and so the idea that we can 330 00:13:26,759 --> 00:13:32,338 imagine that there might be these 331 00:13:29,278 --> 00:13:35,700 Elementals or Spirits or ghosts or 332 00:13:32,339 --> 00:13:37,320 chupacabras or Bigfoot 333 00:13:35,700 --> 00:13:40,620 that there might be extraterrestrials 334 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:43,500 visiting our Earth from another planet 335 00:13:40,620 --> 00:13:46,919 that fills us with 336 00:13:43,500 --> 00:13:50,159 a wonder that I think just sort of 337 00:13:46,919 --> 00:13:53,639 feeds the spirit of living that it makes 338 00:13:50,159 --> 00:13:56,519 life exciting and 339 00:13:53,639 --> 00:13:58,560 in the search for that 340 00:13:56,519 --> 00:14:01,200 I think there is something almost 341 00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:02,939 spiritual about it and I think that is a 342 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:04,680 very positive thing now some people 343 00:14:02,940 --> 00:14:08,220 might 344 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:10,979 like they use other things fill the void 345 00:14:08,220 --> 00:14:12,540 um but I think most people it's not a 346 00:14:10,980 --> 00:14:16,500 void that they're filling 347 00:14:12,539 --> 00:14:20,099 it's just living the Journey of life and 348 00:14:16,500 --> 00:14:23,879 you know going down the enigmatic Road 349 00:14:20,100 --> 00:14:26,300 of Investigation into the unknown is 350 00:14:23,879 --> 00:14:29,578 something that 351 00:14:26,299 --> 00:14:31,919 broadens the mind 352 00:14:29,578 --> 00:14:34,679 in some sense both communities would 353 00:14:31,919 --> 00:14:36,539 regard themselves as somewhat Fringe and 354 00:14:34,679 --> 00:14:39,120 are regarded as somewhat Fringe and 355 00:14:36,539 --> 00:14:42,299 maybe eccentric by for example the 356 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:44,220 mainstream scientific community 357 00:14:42,299 --> 00:14:46,039 a lot of these people might regard 358 00:14:44,220 --> 00:14:50,040 themselves as 359 00:14:46,039 --> 00:14:52,799 Outsiders Crusaders for the truth in a 360 00:14:50,039 --> 00:14:55,259 situation where maybe they feel the deck 361 00:14:52,799 --> 00:14:57,838 is stacked against them maybe from 362 00:14:55,259 --> 00:15:00,958 government media scientific Community 363 00:14:57,839 --> 00:15:04,920 whoever it might be the negative is that 364 00:15:00,958 --> 00:15:08,399 yes sometimes people can get obsessed 365 00:15:04,919 --> 00:15:11,519 and any kind of obsession is is 366 00:15:08,399 --> 00:15:14,278 um you know damaging and uh 367 00:15:11,519 --> 00:15:15,620 unfortunately I think sometimes there 368 00:15:14,278 --> 00:15:19,139 are 369 00:15:15,620 --> 00:15:21,659 researchers or individuals 370 00:15:19,139 --> 00:15:25,019 who need more 371 00:15:21,659 --> 00:15:28,259 out of life that then 372 00:15:25,019 --> 00:15:31,198 what an interest in ufology or 373 00:15:28,259 --> 00:15:34,799 cryptozoology can provide 374 00:15:31,198 --> 00:15:35,698 and maybe they begin to 375 00:15:34,799 --> 00:15:38,039 um 376 00:15:35,698 --> 00:15:40,338 fill their investigations with hyperbole 377 00:15:38,039 --> 00:15:43,740 so that they can get more attention 378 00:15:40,339 --> 00:15:45,300 maybe they start to take an experience 379 00:15:43,740 --> 00:15:50,399 and a 380 00:15:45,299 --> 00:15:52,198 embellish it too far too much and it's 381 00:15:50,399 --> 00:15:54,899 attention that they need it does happen 382 00:15:52,198 --> 00:15:55,799 so there there is that negative side to 383 00:15:54,899 --> 00:15:57,899 it 384 00:15:55,799 --> 00:16:01,379 and sometimes yeah just like a religion 385 00:15:57,899 --> 00:16:04,019 or a philosophy of any kind they might 386 00:16:01,379 --> 00:16:06,958 be using that to fill some kind of void 387 00:16:04,019 --> 00:16:09,000 in their soul and their heart and their 388 00:16:06,958 --> 00:16:10,559 psyche 389 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:12,480 I'm sure there are some differences 390 00:16:10,559 --> 00:16:14,399 between the communities but there are 391 00:16:12,480 --> 00:16:17,459 some commonalities 392 00:16:14,399 --> 00:16:19,320 too and and I think that's very 393 00:16:17,458 --> 00:16:23,039 interesting it's whatever you believe 394 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:24,899 about UFOs about Bigfoot I think 395 00:16:23,039 --> 00:16:27,539 actually it would be quite interesting 396 00:16:24,899 --> 00:16:31,440 almost sociologically 397 00:16:27,539 --> 00:16:33,539 to look at those communities so not 398 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:36,839 looking so much at UFOs or at Bigfoot 399 00:16:33,539 --> 00:16:39,778 but the people that study them and and 400 00:16:36,839 --> 00:16:41,399 research them and maybe try to go out I 401 00:16:39,778 --> 00:16:44,338 mean I don't know what the difference is 402 00:16:41,399 --> 00:16:47,220 for example between people that go out 403 00:16:44,339 --> 00:16:50,639 on a sky watch with binoculars and 404 00:16:47,220 --> 00:16:54,300 infrared equipment night vision goggles 405 00:16:50,639 --> 00:16:58,079 and say the people that hunt Bigfoot and 406 00:16:54,299 --> 00:17:01,019 I I suspect that one one common thread 407 00:16:58,078 --> 00:17:03,778 is is Extreme dedication 408 00:17:01,019 --> 00:17:06,720 and these things aren't easy they you 409 00:17:03,778 --> 00:17:09,660 probably get ridiculed and disbelieved 410 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:11,400 and you probably spend a lot of cold wet 411 00:17:09,660 --> 00:17:14,819 nights 412 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:17,819 um when it might be easier to 413 00:17:14,818 --> 00:17:19,918 um drink some beer and watch the game so 414 00:17:17,818 --> 00:17:21,959 it's an interesting question about these 415 00:17:19,919 --> 00:17:24,000 different communities and as I say I'm 416 00:17:21,959 --> 00:17:26,880 sure there are there are some things 417 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:28,798 that bind them together and other things 418 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:32,400 that set them apart 419 00:17:28,798 --> 00:17:33,960 by and large most people especially in 420 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:36,120 the Paranormal Community I love the 421 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:37,440 people in the Paranormal Community 422 00:17:36,119 --> 00:17:42,239 um you know it's just just part of my 423 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:45,058 tribe as it were and they're good people 424 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:46,919 and we are very supportive of each other 425 00:17:45,058 --> 00:17:48,779 and I really appreciate that and there's 426 00:17:46,919 --> 00:17:50,940 a lot of positive thinking 427 00:17:48,779 --> 00:17:53,759 so I was into the whole UF audience 428 00:17:50,940 --> 00:17:55,919 thing prior to being into Bigfoot uh my 429 00:17:53,759 --> 00:17:58,319 introduction uh was through a French 430 00:17:55,919 --> 00:18:00,419 comic book on Aliens but inside they had 431 00:17:58,319 --> 00:18:01,859 like a story from Brazil about a little 432 00:18:00,419 --> 00:18:04,620 hairy monster as they were supposedly 433 00:18:01,859 --> 00:18:07,619 aliens so when I saw another book on the 434 00:18:04,619 --> 00:18:10,379 yeti I kind of recognized that model you 435 00:18:07,619 --> 00:18:12,119 know from the earlier uh UFO book so 436 00:18:10,380 --> 00:18:13,799 that got me interested into the yeti I'm 437 00:18:12,119 --> 00:18:16,079 like oh it's kind of like you know this 438 00:18:13,798 --> 00:18:19,819 uh UFO story in Brazil then obviously 439 00:18:16,079 --> 00:18:19,819 that went on to its own path but 440 00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:26,339 it even five years ago a UFO person oh 441 00:18:24,779 --> 00:18:27,899 those Bigfoot people they're stuck up 442 00:18:26,339 --> 00:18:29,639 they don't know they're they're you know 443 00:18:27,900 --> 00:18:31,559 they're tracking something 444 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:33,660 you know we don't really care about them 445 00:18:31,558 --> 00:18:35,879 and then the Bigfoot people would be 446 00:18:33,660 --> 00:18:37,798 like no those guys are weird you know I 447 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:40,140 spend my weekends out looking for a big 448 00:18:37,798 --> 00:18:42,119 hairy bipedal ape or something but those 449 00:18:40,140 --> 00:18:44,220 those UFO people are weird 450 00:18:42,119 --> 00:18:46,199 and because a lot of Bigfoot researchers 451 00:18:44,220 --> 00:18:48,179 and understandably saw a very scientific 452 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:50,160 very hard fact we want Footprints we 453 00:18:48,179 --> 00:18:51,538 want photographs we want hair samples we 454 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:54,840 want DNA 455 00:18:51,538 --> 00:18:58,200 we want sounds we want actual tangible 456 00:18:54,839 --> 00:19:00,240 evidence and UFO being a lot of 457 00:18:58,200 --> 00:19:02,759 sightings and encounters and hearsay 458 00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:05,220 having even less physical evidence than 459 00:19:02,759 --> 00:19:07,919 UFO World there was always a departure 460 00:19:05,220 --> 00:19:10,319 when I got invited to speak at upars La 461 00:19:07,919 --> 00:19:12,120 which is the LA chapter of mufon upar's 462 00:19:10,319 --> 00:19:14,639 universal paranormal 463 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:17,159 um Association and then mufa and Orange 464 00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:18,600 County very nice people it was really 465 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:20,640 refreshing because I'm so used to 466 00:19:18,599 --> 00:19:22,319 talking to people unless it's a 467 00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:24,120 paranormal podcast if I just talk to 468 00:19:22,319 --> 00:19:25,740 regular people who have an interest in 469 00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:27,599 it you spend the whole conversation 470 00:19:25,740 --> 00:19:28,859 about Bigfoot trying to convince them it 471 00:19:27,599 --> 00:19:31,199 exists 472 00:19:28,859 --> 00:19:33,719 and when you go talk to a group of 30 40 473 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:37,019 50 60 people who study different alien 474 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:39,419 races and UFOs and Consciousness and 475 00:19:37,019 --> 00:19:41,160 different astral planes and metaphysics 476 00:19:39,419 --> 00:19:42,960 and all this different kind of stuff and 477 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:45,179 I'm like yeah my name's Matt I research 478 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:46,740 bigfoots they're all like yeah and 479 00:19:45,179 --> 00:19:48,720 there's a big hairy North American 480 00:19:46,740 --> 00:19:50,819 creature exists they're like yeah and 481 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:52,679 it's no big deal to them I mean when 482 00:19:50,819 --> 00:19:54,659 you're talking about 483 00:19:52,679 --> 00:19:57,660 parallel dimensions and wormholes and 484 00:19:54,660 --> 00:19:59,160 Ancient Aliens and civilizations and the 485 00:19:57,660 --> 00:20:01,440 real kind of outdoor stuff they talk 486 00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:04,140 about to them an Undiscovered species or 487 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:05,640 an ape is just like or a species of 488 00:20:04,140 --> 00:20:07,440 human they're just kind of like yeah 489 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:09,900 whatever and they were very interested 490 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:12,120 and very welcoming and I heard some 491 00:20:09,900 --> 00:20:14,400 weird stories from some of the people 492 00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:16,619 who came up during the intermediate hi 493 00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:18,360 I'm a level three Shaman and I live in 494 00:20:16,619 --> 00:20:19,678 the woods here and I want to let you 495 00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:21,959 know that bigfoots Are Spiritual 496 00:20:19,679 --> 00:20:23,460 creatures and I saw one one day and I 497 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:25,380 could see it perfectly clear but my 498 00:20:23,460 --> 00:20:27,000 boyfriend couldn't see it and it spoke 499 00:20:25,380 --> 00:20:29,340 to me in a dream later that night and 500 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:31,319 I'm just like hi and I had other people 501 00:20:29,339 --> 00:20:33,240 come up to me and they're like uh yeah 502 00:20:31,319 --> 00:20:34,798 we're actually Satan worshipers and we 503 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:36,000 worship demons and they're all gothened 504 00:20:34,798 --> 00:20:37,679 out and everything like that and I'm 505 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:40,500 just like hi I'm Matt smiling politely 506 00:20:37,679 --> 00:20:42,600 you know and um they're telling me that 507 00:20:40,500 --> 00:20:44,279 oh yeah Bigfoot has you know some of the 508 00:20:42,599 --> 00:20:47,099 dark ones seed in it and they're 509 00:20:44,279 --> 00:20:48,779 genetically modified and all this and 510 00:20:47,099 --> 00:20:50,579 um the great evil one showed me this in 511 00:20:48,779 --> 00:20:53,220 a dream and I'm like 512 00:20:50,579 --> 00:20:54,960 yep it's nice to meet all you folks you 513 00:20:53,220 --> 00:20:57,120 know I mean give them listen to these 514 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:59,220 people listen to them hear what they 515 00:20:57,119 --> 00:21:01,678 have to say you know whether you throw 516 00:20:59,220 --> 00:21:02,759 it out personally is up to you but it's 517 00:21:01,679 --> 00:21:04,798 certainly fascinating certainly 518 00:21:02,759 --> 00:21:06,839 entertaining at the very least 519 00:21:04,798 --> 00:21:09,720 Bigfoot in my opinion is the Nephilim 520 00:21:06,839 --> 00:21:12,839 the Nephilim are the byproduct The 521 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:14,940 Offspring of the Fallen Angelic hosts 522 00:21:12,839 --> 00:21:16,558 and the human women of Earth creating a 523 00:21:14,940 --> 00:21:18,538 hybrid known as the Nephilim it's 524 00:21:16,558 --> 00:21:20,220 biblical it's right in there Genesis 6. 525 00:21:18,538 --> 00:21:22,319 it goes back in the seat of a dragon 526 00:21:20,220 --> 00:21:23,880 will be at War at enmity with the seed 527 00:21:22,319 --> 00:21:25,379 of the woman which sets up the rest of 528 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:28,260 the biblical prophetic narrative that's 529 00:21:25,380 --> 00:21:30,480 not taught in most seminaries most 530 00:21:28,259 --> 00:21:33,000 Christians have no idea what that even 531 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:35,159 is but it's there and it's coming into 532 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:38,759 light and I'm one of the people my my 533 00:21:35,159 --> 00:21:40,559 mentor Chuck Missler and Dr ID Thomas I 534 00:21:38,759 --> 00:21:42,720 stand on their shoulders they stand on 535 00:21:40,558 --> 00:21:44,759 GH pember's shoulders so it's been there 536 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:46,679 people have talked about it but the 537 00:21:44,759 --> 00:21:49,619 mainstream still goes whoa whoa that's 538 00:21:46,679 --> 00:21:51,600 too woo-woo for us so again if this is 539 00:21:49,619 --> 00:21:53,939 all Supernatural in my opinion the whole 540 00:21:51,599 --> 00:21:57,779 UFO phenomenon in my opinion is a 541 00:21:53,940 --> 00:21:59,640 supernatural occurrence not a uh an 542 00:21:57,779 --> 00:22:00,480 extraterrestrial one interdimensional 543 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:02,720 one 544 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:05,400 I don't necessarily have to believe 545 00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:07,140 everything I hear 546 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:09,298 and obviously I don't just swallow and 547 00:22:07,140 --> 00:22:11,640 believe whatever evidence is 548 00:22:09,298 --> 00:22:15,779 you know placed in front of me 549 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:19,320 but it's the conversation that I enjoy 550 00:22:15,779 --> 00:22:22,079 because what it says is that 551 00:22:19,319 --> 00:22:24,418 we're not being dogmatic 552 00:22:22,079 --> 00:22:27,418 or keeping the door open or asking 553 00:22:24,419 --> 00:22:30,500 questions even for the the strict 554 00:22:27,419 --> 00:22:33,600 almost dogmatic ufologists 555 00:22:30,500 --> 00:22:36,839 or Bigfoot researchers who say no 556 00:22:33,599 --> 00:22:40,079 Bigfoot is a physical being only he's a 557 00:22:36,839 --> 00:22:42,720 ape family descendant living amongst us 558 00:22:40,079 --> 00:22:45,298 secretly whereas others would say it's 559 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:47,220 an interdimensional being 560 00:22:45,298 --> 00:22:48,859 either way 561 00:22:47,220 --> 00:22:51,120 they're they're searching for something 562 00:22:48,859 --> 00:22:52,500 and they're keeping that door open a 563 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:54,658 little bit and I really do appreciate 564 00:22:52,500 --> 00:22:57,179 that one of the things that I encounter 565 00:22:54,659 --> 00:22:58,620 on my YouTube channel and in my research 566 00:22:57,179 --> 00:23:00,600 and shows that I've been on is just 567 00:22:58,619 --> 00:23:02,279 because I talk about a theory doesn't 568 00:23:00,599 --> 00:23:03,779 necessarily mean that that's what I 569 00:23:02,279 --> 00:23:06,000 think is going on 570 00:23:03,779 --> 00:23:07,379 you know just I talk about a Bigfoot UFO 571 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:08,880 connection or a paranormal connection 572 00:23:07,380 --> 00:23:10,679 and Matt thinks they're they're 573 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:12,360 paranormal or they think that they're 574 00:23:10,679 --> 00:23:13,798 the Nephilim or he thinks there's 575 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:15,479 something biblical or they think they're 576 00:23:13,798 --> 00:23:18,500 that thinks they're in Alien well well I 577 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:20,940 didn't say that I feel like any good 578 00:23:18,500 --> 00:23:22,859 researcher or teacher or somebody 579 00:23:20,940 --> 00:23:24,360 exploring a subject you have to look at 580 00:23:22,859 --> 00:23:27,058 these things without that necessarily 581 00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:30,558 being what your opinion is so I got to 582 00:23:27,058 --> 00:23:30,558 put that caveat out there right away 583 00:23:30,599 --> 00:23:34,798 I'm I think I'm probably more passionate 584 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:37,259 about Bigfoot and I'm about UFOs because 585 00:23:34,798 --> 00:23:39,359 well first of all I have a BS in 586 00:23:37,259 --> 00:23:42,419 anthropology so you know it 587 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:43,979 it's something that I can justify going 588 00:23:42,419 --> 00:23:45,419 to school for five years you know in one 589 00:23:43,980 --> 00:23:47,579 sense but for whatever reason that's 590 00:23:45,419 --> 00:23:49,080 captured my imagination a lot more than 591 00:23:47,579 --> 00:23:50,879 maybe UFOs 592 00:23:49,079 --> 00:23:51,658 I mean I'm passionate about UFOs just as 593 00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:54,179 well 594 00:23:51,659 --> 00:23:55,799 but I'm a little disillusioned by the 595 00:23:54,179 --> 00:23:57,298 everything that's went on in the UFO 596 00:23:55,798 --> 00:23:59,400 field you know and 597 00:23:57,298 --> 00:24:01,200 if it's a mess if I'm gonna be quite 598 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:02,880 honest and 599 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:05,159 there's a lot of people don't have the 600 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:05,940 best interest of the field in mind and 601 00:24:05,159 --> 00:24:07,500 that's you know that's really 602 00:24:05,940 --> 00:24:09,179 frustrating 603 00:24:07,500 --> 00:24:11,220 Bigfoot's it's a little bit smaller 604 00:24:09,179 --> 00:24:13,080 community and don't get me wrong a lot 605 00:24:11,220 --> 00:24:14,339 of people I don't personally like 606 00:24:13,079 --> 00:24:17,099 but 607 00:24:14,339 --> 00:24:19,619 it it's not as tainted you know as the 608 00:24:17,099 --> 00:24:21,899 UFO field today I think and 609 00:24:19,619 --> 00:24:23,879 I think there's a bigger chance for us 610 00:24:21,900 --> 00:24:24,960 to find proof of Bigfoot in the next 611 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:26,940 year 612 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:28,558 than there is of us you know funneling 613 00:24:26,940 --> 00:24:29,460 you know declaring you know aliens or 614 00:24:28,558 --> 00:24:31,079 whatever 615 00:24:29,460 --> 00:24:32,400 you know Chris you have a phenomena is 616 00:24:31,079 --> 00:24:34,918 real 617 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:36,120 term UFO it's really it encompasses a 618 00:24:34,919 --> 00:24:37,320 lot of modalities it's not we're not 619 00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:39,239 just talking about aliens talking about 620 00:24:37,319 --> 00:24:41,639 secret aircrafts Maybe 621 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:44,400 whatever right and it becomes there's so 622 00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:46,259 many factors involved and it factors in 623 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:47,940 so much into the political world right 624 00:24:46,259 --> 00:24:50,940 because we're you're talking about a new 625 00:24:47,940 --> 00:24:52,860 type of energy probably that's that's 626 00:24:50,940 --> 00:24:55,200 very different what we have today 627 00:24:52,859 --> 00:24:58,259 and that affects everything 628 00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:59,519 in the world it affects oil it affects 629 00:24:58,259 --> 00:25:01,140 government I mean imagine a US 630 00:24:59,519 --> 00:25:02,879 Government admitting tomorrow that 631 00:25:01,140 --> 00:25:04,799 aliens UFOs are real and they've been 632 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:06,600 violating our airspace 633 00:25:04,798 --> 00:25:08,038 for generations and there's nothing we 634 00:25:06,599 --> 00:25:10,619 can do about it 635 00:25:08,038 --> 00:25:12,179 I mean even today which you know it's 636 00:25:10,619 --> 00:25:14,099 things a little chaotic with the US 637 00:25:12,179 --> 00:25:15,659 government but even that admittance is 638 00:25:14,099 --> 00:25:17,699 like it's Unthinkable right how do you 639 00:25:15,659 --> 00:25:19,320 admit something like that 640 00:25:17,700 --> 00:25:22,080 and I think that's part of the problem 641 00:25:19,319 --> 00:25:23,819 why we're not getting UFO disclosure 642 00:25:22,079 --> 00:25:26,879 with Bigfoot you know let's say someone 643 00:25:23,819 --> 00:25:28,379 discovers Bigfoot and now a greater 644 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:30,179 creationist maybe up at Arms you know 645 00:25:28,380 --> 00:25:31,799 but ultimately everyone's going to get 646 00:25:30,179 --> 00:25:33,720 over it a week later 647 00:25:31,798 --> 00:25:35,879 oh look we found another species of man 648 00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:38,159 that's alive today that'll be huge right 649 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:40,919 or we found a new type of ape that's 650 00:25:38,159 --> 00:25:42,778 bipedal so maybe the ape thing will be 651 00:25:40,919 --> 00:25:45,299 popular for a week and no one will care 652 00:25:42,778 --> 00:25:46,740 you know that or obviously if we found 653 00:25:45,298 --> 00:25:49,079 another species of human that's going to 654 00:25:46,740 --> 00:25:50,579 change things dramatically but look at 655 00:25:49,079 --> 00:25:51,839 the world today as really anybody's 656 00:25:50,579 --> 00:25:52,740 going to be up Anonymous about it a 657 00:25:51,839 --> 00:25:54,959 month later 658 00:25:52,740 --> 00:25:57,279 sadly probably not you know 659 00:25:54,960 --> 00:26:01,440 and people go back to their phones or 660 00:25:57,279 --> 00:26:04,200 [Music] 661 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:05,759 I suppose if the you know humans are 662 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:07,679 being abducted I wouldn't see any reason 663 00:26:05,759 --> 00:26:10,440 they wouldn't abduct a Bigfoot too or 664 00:26:07,679 --> 00:26:12,600 and the fact in the last few years you 665 00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:14,100 have seen a lot more crossover Ron 666 00:26:12,599 --> 00:26:16,079 Moorhead a lot of bigger Bigfoot 667 00:26:14,099 --> 00:26:17,639 researchers of giving more talks at UFO 668 00:26:16,079 --> 00:26:19,798 conferences and they're starting to show 669 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:21,059 up more and you're starting to see a lot 670 00:26:19,798 --> 00:26:23,278 more crossover because I think both 671 00:26:21,058 --> 00:26:25,798 communities are kind of realizing 672 00:26:23,278 --> 00:26:28,798 this isn't just some physical creature 673 00:26:25,798 --> 00:26:30,900 in a craft some species visiting us from 674 00:26:28,798 --> 00:26:32,519 another planet there's more to it than 675 00:26:30,900 --> 00:26:33,900 that these stars are too far away for 676 00:26:32,519 --> 00:26:35,460 them to even travel at the speed of 677 00:26:33,900 --> 00:26:37,140 light and get here there's more to 678 00:26:35,460 --> 00:26:39,120 aliens than just them being Little Green 679 00:26:37,140 --> 00:26:40,559 Men from another planet and then people 680 00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:42,839 look at Bigfoot and there's more to 681 00:26:40,558 --> 00:26:46,019 these creatures than just being a big 682 00:26:42,839 --> 00:26:47,879 hairy human ape hybrid thing and so 683 00:26:46,019 --> 00:26:49,500 there's a lot of crossover 684 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:52,200 who's to say Bigfoot's not a 685 00:26:49,500 --> 00:26:55,619 shape-shifter that you know one second 686 00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:57,120 he's uh you know a bear-like creature in 687 00:26:55,619 --> 00:26:59,219 the next second he's like an old Indian 688 00:26:57,119 --> 00:27:00,979 Chief and you know oh hey what's up I 689 00:26:59,220 --> 00:27:02,880 yeah who knows anything's possible 690 00:27:00,980 --> 00:27:04,679 coincidentally that's kind of where my 691 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:06,059 research went is eventually and a lot of 692 00:27:04,679 --> 00:27:08,100 people encountered this in the Bigfoot 693 00:27:06,058 --> 00:27:09,538 world is you've read all the 694 00:27:08,099 --> 00:27:11,339 conventional stuff you've been out in 695 00:27:09,538 --> 00:27:13,440 the woods and had probably more than 696 00:27:11,339 --> 00:27:15,418 likely very very limited success on your 697 00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:17,220 own researching Bigfoot in the fields 698 00:27:15,419 --> 00:27:18,600 you spend all day long camouflaged out 699 00:27:17,220 --> 00:27:19,919 with your comfort set and your face 700 00:27:18,599 --> 00:27:21,719 painted crawling through the woods 701 00:27:19,919 --> 00:27:23,640 watching every step setting up cameras 702 00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:25,019 you go back to the car and you stop to 703 00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:26,640 take a whiz on a tree and that's when 704 00:27:25,019 --> 00:27:28,859 you hear a tree snap and you hear a hoop 705 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:30,600 and you're like I'm not ready you know 706 00:27:28,859 --> 00:27:31,918 or as soon as your camera dies you've 707 00:27:30,599 --> 00:27:33,240 been filming all day and you're tired 708 00:27:31,919 --> 00:27:34,980 and you're sitting on the porch and 709 00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:36,538 you're gonna have a cocktail that's when 710 00:27:34,980 --> 00:27:37,919 you hear a tree knock over here and you 711 00:27:36,538 --> 00:27:40,140 hear a tree knock over there and you 712 00:27:37,919 --> 00:27:41,580 hear the woods go quiet and you hear a 713 00:27:40,140 --> 00:27:44,038 whoop and you're like 714 00:27:41,579 --> 00:27:45,960 the camera is inside charging with no SD 715 00:27:44,038 --> 00:27:47,099 card in it you're like really really now 716 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:48,240 that's when it happens and you go get 717 00:27:47,099 --> 00:27:50,939 the camera and then nothing happens 718 00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:52,740 that's just the way it happens with all 719 00:27:50,940 --> 00:27:54,659 paranormal the and that's when you start 720 00:27:52,740 --> 00:27:56,759 getting into the Ghost Hunters people 721 00:27:54,659 --> 00:27:58,919 that go to the haunted you know the 722 00:27:56,759 --> 00:28:00,720 abandoned prison and abandoned Saiyan 723 00:27:58,919 --> 00:28:02,520 asylums in the old houses and try to do 724 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:03,778 their EVPs and talk to the ghosts and 725 00:28:02,519 --> 00:28:04,609 everything because they have a lot of 726 00:28:03,778 --> 00:28:05,940 the same issues 727 00:28:04,609 --> 00:28:07,859 [Music] 728 00:28:05,940 --> 00:28:09,298 it's like Zen the harder you look for it 729 00:28:07,859 --> 00:28:11,819 the farther away from it you're gonna 730 00:28:09,298 --> 00:28:13,740 get and it's very interesting that the 731 00:28:11,819 --> 00:28:15,599 UFO world the Bigfoot world and the 732 00:28:13,740 --> 00:28:17,460 paranormal ghost world all kind of seem 733 00:28:15,599 --> 00:28:18,959 to have that I don't know that I was 734 00:28:17,460 --> 00:28:20,240 wondering where you how what the link 735 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:23,278 was between 736 00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:24,480 Bigfoot and you know and the UFO culture 737 00:28:23,278 --> 00:28:26,880 and 738 00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:28,079 I'm understanding a little bit more now 739 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:31,260 for sure 740 00:28:28,079 --> 00:28:34,500 for all of you out there that 741 00:28:31,259 --> 00:28:36,599 that love these topics 742 00:28:34,500 --> 00:28:39,778 thank you thank you for for doing what 743 00:28:36,599 --> 00:28:41,278 you do because I think that on the 744 00:28:39,778 --> 00:28:43,558 periphery 745 00:28:41,278 --> 00:28:45,839 even though maybe you were the ones that 746 00:28:43,558 --> 00:28:49,440 are willing to put our faces out front 747 00:28:45,839 --> 00:28:52,079 and publicly discuss these things 748 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:55,019 on the periphery there are people that 749 00:28:52,079 --> 00:28:56,220 are watching and listening uh maybe 750 00:28:55,019 --> 00:28:58,379 they're not posting on their Facebook 751 00:28:56,220 --> 00:29:00,179 page you know latest article about 752 00:28:58,380 --> 00:29:01,799 cryptozoology but they might see our 753 00:29:00,179 --> 00:29:04,080 posts 754 00:29:01,798 --> 00:29:06,960 um maybe they tune into radio shows and 755 00:29:04,079 --> 00:29:09,298 they never talk to anyone else about it 756 00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:10,919 outside of that they don't talk to 757 00:29:09,298 --> 00:29:12,839 people at work or family just kind of 758 00:29:10,919 --> 00:29:14,700 like their own little 759 00:29:12,839 --> 00:29:15,720 um you know mystical world that they 760 00:29:14,700 --> 00:29:18,000 created 761 00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:19,860 the similarities at conferences where 762 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:21,599 you've got big crowds and you know 763 00:29:19,859 --> 00:29:23,879 everybody's listening to the lectures 764 00:29:21,599 --> 00:29:26,359 and so on I mean that's pretty much the 765 00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:30,899 same whether you're talking about UFOs 766 00:29:26,359 --> 00:29:34,139 or if it's cryptozoology what I've found 767 00:29:30,898 --> 00:29:36,959 is that the lectures that are done in 768 00:29:34,140 --> 00:29:40,740 cryptozoology are far more visible in 769 00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:44,220 terms of pictures and imagery you find 770 00:29:40,740 --> 00:29:46,679 that lectures and conferences in 771 00:29:44,220 --> 00:29:49,579 relations like bigfoots are far more 772 00:29:46,679 --> 00:29:53,100 picturesque you know location pictures 773 00:29:49,579 --> 00:29:54,720 uh pictures of the witnesses 774 00:29:53,099 --> 00:29:57,058 um you know shots at the local Lake 775 00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:59,880 where something's been seen pictures of 776 00:29:57,058 --> 00:30:03,658 Bigfoot casts so in other words the 777 00:29:59,880 --> 00:30:07,200 imagery for the audience is huge you 778 00:30:03,659 --> 00:30:10,260 tend to find very often with UFO 779 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:13,259 lectures it might be like two shots of 780 00:30:10,259 --> 00:30:15,658 the Roswell crash site somebody presents 781 00:30:13,259 --> 00:30:19,619 a document and there isn't really as 782 00:30:15,659 --> 00:30:21,539 much visual material as there is you 783 00:30:19,619 --> 00:30:23,579 know going out to have I've done a lot 784 00:30:21,538 --> 00:30:25,619 of times like Puerto Rico's El junkie 785 00:30:23,579 --> 00:30:28,199 rainforest looking for the 786 00:30:25,619 --> 00:30:30,178 um chupacabra I've done a lot of 787 00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:33,000 lectures where I've probably got 40 788 00:30:30,179 --> 00:30:35,880 pictures of the places we went to but 789 00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:39,240 you just don't get that with you know 790 00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:40,860 lectures on the loudest UFO case there 791 00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:44,038 might be a blob in the sky and a picture 792 00:30:40,859 --> 00:30:47,959 of the researcher pointing in the sky so 793 00:30:44,038 --> 00:30:47,960 that's a big difference as well yeah 794 00:30:49,019 --> 00:30:55,859 but I have heard of a lot of UFO and 795 00:30:52,259 --> 00:30:57,538 paranormal type connections and for 796 00:30:55,859 --> 00:30:58,979 every Bigfoot encounter was yeah it 797 00:30:57,538 --> 00:31:01,379 scratched his butt and walked across the 798 00:30:58,980 --> 00:31:03,839 road there are things that it vanished 799 00:31:01,380 --> 00:31:06,179 it cloaked like the Predator I saw a big 800 00:31:03,839 --> 00:31:08,058 flash of light its eyes were glowing red 801 00:31:06,179 --> 00:31:11,399 I don't mean I Shine from a flashlight 802 00:31:08,058 --> 00:31:13,500 its eyes were glowing red at me I felt 803 00:31:11,398 --> 00:31:15,418 an immense feeling of fear of dread like 804 00:31:13,500 --> 00:31:16,980 I was gonna die and it had glowing red 805 00:31:15,419 --> 00:31:18,538 eyes 806 00:31:16,980 --> 00:31:20,099 and when you start getting into things 807 00:31:18,538 --> 00:31:22,558 like that or it cloaked or it 808 00:31:20,099 --> 00:31:24,119 disappeared or 809 00:31:22,558 --> 00:31:25,619 you start getting to make things and 810 00:31:24,119 --> 00:31:27,119 from people who are scared to death and 811 00:31:25,619 --> 00:31:28,259 seem plausible and why would they make 812 00:31:27,119 --> 00:31:29,459 this up 813 00:31:28,259 --> 00:31:31,140 and then you're like well do I throw 814 00:31:29,460 --> 00:31:33,899 this encounter out 815 00:31:31,140 --> 00:31:35,460 no well some researchers do I don't 816 00:31:33,898 --> 00:31:37,079 blame them if you want the hard science 817 00:31:35,460 --> 00:31:38,220 but for me well let's let's listen to 818 00:31:37,079 --> 00:31:40,379 these people 819 00:31:38,220 --> 00:31:41,880 no they're all different I'd say they're 820 00:31:40,380 --> 00:31:43,860 all different everybody comes at it from 821 00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:45,360 their own way we had Linda Moulton Howe 822 00:31:43,859 --> 00:31:47,699 back in the beginning of the the first 823 00:31:45,359 --> 00:31:48,798 show and we had Stanton Friedman one of 824 00:31:47,700 --> 00:31:52,440 his last 825 00:31:48,798 --> 00:31:56,158 speaking engagements before he passed 826 00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:58,259 but um yeah just a great group it's cool 827 00:31:56,159 --> 00:32:00,600 to have the people come through Big Bear 828 00:31:58,259 --> 00:32:02,640 I don't know Bara kind of covers the 829 00:32:00,599 --> 00:32:05,219 whole spectrum and Nick Pope is he's 830 00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:07,200 just he's fascinating to to conversate 831 00:32:05,220 --> 00:32:08,880 with 832 00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:11,100 there's a lot of parallels in UFO world 833 00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:13,080 people it's very post-traumatic stress 834 00:32:11,099 --> 00:32:15,359 Bigfoot isn't supposed to exist monsters 835 00:32:13,079 --> 00:32:17,158 aren't supposed to exist monsters aren't 836 00:32:15,359 --> 00:32:18,898 supposed to be real but then here you're 837 00:32:17,159 --> 00:32:20,640 confronted with a Bigfoot seven eight 838 00:32:18,898 --> 00:32:22,500 nine ten foot tall 839 00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:24,538 built like the Incredible Hulk and has a 840 00:32:22,500 --> 00:32:26,278 mean look on its face you're at its 841 00:32:24,538 --> 00:32:28,980 Mercy if it wanted to come over here and 842 00:32:26,278 --> 00:32:30,538 tear you in half it could 843 00:32:28,980 --> 00:32:32,278 and it's kind of like that with UFOs 844 00:32:30,538 --> 00:32:33,658 you're at the UFO's Mercy it's something 845 00:32:32,278 --> 00:32:35,640 you don't understand so you have a 846 00:32:33,659 --> 00:32:38,340 post-traumatic type thing you have a 847 00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:41,220 shunning of your weird you're out there 848 00:32:38,339 --> 00:32:43,619 oh Bill saw UFO once and Bill's weird or 849 00:32:41,220 --> 00:32:46,140 Matt oh he's he's he's the weirdo guy 850 00:32:43,619 --> 00:32:47,639 who's into Bigfoot you know like I said 851 00:32:46,140 --> 00:32:50,340 it's all fun and games until you see one 852 00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:51,840 and then you go to the cover-up and then 853 00:32:50,339 --> 00:32:53,038 you go to some of the more out there 854 00:32:51,839 --> 00:32:54,898 things that we were discussing and 855 00:32:53,038 --> 00:32:56,640 there's a lot of parallels and then I 856 00:32:54,898 --> 00:32:58,558 think one thing the UFO world because 857 00:32:56,640 --> 00:33:00,120 they're so driving for credibility even 858 00:32:58,558 --> 00:33:02,099 more than the Bigfoot world 859 00:33:00,119 --> 00:33:03,719 is you look at mufon and a lot of the 860 00:33:02,099 --> 00:33:05,278 big organizations and they have a very 861 00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:06,720 strict rigid 862 00:33:05,278 --> 00:33:08,940 way that they conduct their 863 00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:11,819 investigation is that's great time 864 00:33:08,940 --> 00:33:14,100 location temperature what was the 865 00:33:11,819 --> 00:33:16,319 traffic conditions on nearby roads what 866 00:33:14,099 --> 00:33:17,579 kind of what was the environment what 867 00:33:16,319 --> 00:33:20,038 was the State of Mind of the person 868 00:33:17,579 --> 00:33:21,720 where they calmed were they agitated did 869 00:33:20,038 --> 00:33:23,220 this person have a history of mental 870 00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:25,860 illness did they appear to be 871 00:33:23,220 --> 00:33:28,319 intoxicated are they into drugs of any 872 00:33:25,859 --> 00:33:30,058 kind what what was the conditions were 873 00:33:28,319 --> 00:33:31,619 there any other Witnesses is there any 874 00:33:30,058 --> 00:33:33,359 other historic they're very very good 875 00:33:31,619 --> 00:33:35,038 and I think the Bigfoot world could 876 00:33:33,359 --> 00:33:37,979 learn a lot from that from doing almost 877 00:33:35,038 --> 00:33:40,200 a law enforcement type investigation you 878 00:33:37,980 --> 00:33:41,640 know just the facts 879 00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:44,580 I don't know it's kind of fascinating 880 00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:46,140 the whole disappearances and like uh in 881 00:33:44,579 --> 00:33:48,418 some of the national forests too and 882 00:33:46,140 --> 00:33:49,919 what's that all about 883 00:33:48,419 --> 00:33:51,299 I've done a bunch of research in that 884 00:33:49,919 --> 00:33:53,100 and it's like 885 00:33:51,298 --> 00:33:54,839 walking with somebody one second and 886 00:33:53,099 --> 00:33:58,619 then they're just gone 887 00:33:54,839 --> 00:34:01,079 and then sometimes stuff turns up you 888 00:33:58,619 --> 00:34:03,178 know pieces of their luggage or their 889 00:34:01,079 --> 00:34:05,639 gear or whatever miles away where 890 00:34:03,179 --> 00:34:09,838 there's and you know the time frame 891 00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:11,940 doesn't match and who knows abducted I 892 00:34:09,838 --> 00:34:14,878 don't know you know Bigfoot ran off with 893 00:34:11,940 --> 00:34:16,320 them or who knows 894 00:34:14,878 --> 00:34:18,838 one thing when you get into military 895 00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:20,460 Witnesses and police officers when you 896 00:34:18,838 --> 00:34:22,139 work in law enforcement you're a trained 897 00:34:20,460 --> 00:34:23,280 Observer you're meant to look at a crowd 898 00:34:22,139 --> 00:34:24,838 you're meant to pick out things you're 899 00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:26,280 meant to interpret things that you have 900 00:34:24,838 --> 00:34:28,079 training and you have background and you 901 00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:30,060 do it for a living so when you have 902 00:34:28,079 --> 00:34:31,679 military and law enforcement there are 903 00:34:30,059 --> 00:34:33,599 plenty of sightings by cops plenty of 904 00:34:31,679 --> 00:34:36,418 sightings by firefighters and lawyers 905 00:34:33,599 --> 00:34:37,859 and judges when you get into military 906 00:34:36,418 --> 00:34:39,898 and law enforce these are trained 907 00:34:37,858 --> 00:34:42,239 observers and when they have that how 908 00:34:39,898 --> 00:34:44,579 much more credible do you want it to be 909 00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:45,959 I mean you can't make this stuff up it 910 00:34:44,579 --> 00:34:49,079 always seems like there's some hard 911 00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:51,240 evidence that changes their life forever 912 00:34:49,079 --> 00:34:54,418 and they're like I went from a 913 00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:56,819 non-believer to a full believer and in a 914 00:34:54,418 --> 00:35:00,358 second but it's I've always trusted it I 915 00:34:56,820 --> 00:35:03,240 always say trust no one 916 00:35:00,358 --> 00:35:05,039 and it's healthy very very healthy to be 917 00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:07,259 suspicious we've all heard that line 918 00:35:05,039 --> 00:35:08,519 before trust no one from the X-Files but 919 00:35:07,260 --> 00:35:10,140 you have to ask them what does that 920 00:35:08,519 --> 00:35:12,900 really mean 921 00:35:10,139 --> 00:35:16,078 because if I have subscribed to the 922 00:35:12,900 --> 00:35:19,079 mainstream Media or if I subscribe to 923 00:35:16,079 --> 00:35:21,780 what I was taught in school growing up 924 00:35:19,079 --> 00:35:24,599 and then I have this realization later 925 00:35:21,780 --> 00:35:27,420 on that what I've been told is not 926 00:35:24,599 --> 00:35:30,480 entirely the truth and I start 927 00:35:27,420 --> 00:35:33,119 discovering new information and I get 928 00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:36,000 that sense of betrayal 929 00:35:33,119 --> 00:35:37,440 then I'll start looking at other sources 930 00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:38,880 of information 931 00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:41,780 and those other sources of information 932 00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:44,338 may offer some truths but those truths 933 00:35:41,780 --> 00:35:46,560 can be mixed in 934 00:35:44,338 --> 00:35:48,719 with 935 00:35:46,559 --> 00:35:51,239 falsehoods 936 00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:53,098 and let's just say mainstream Media or 937 00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:55,500 what you're taught in school let's say 938 00:35:53,099 --> 00:35:58,039 there's an agenda there if I look to 939 00:35:55,500 --> 00:36:00,179 some other source 940 00:35:58,039 --> 00:36:03,059 and they may be telling me some other 941 00:36:00,179 --> 00:36:05,039 truth that they weren't telling me maybe 942 00:36:03,059 --> 00:36:06,900 I will believe that 943 00:36:05,039 --> 00:36:08,219 but if they had agendas how do I know 944 00:36:06,900 --> 00:36:10,079 this other person 945 00:36:08,219 --> 00:36:11,819 doesn't have an agenda 946 00:36:10,079 --> 00:36:13,920 and we have to be really really careful 947 00:36:11,820 --> 00:36:17,160 so I think you have to look at all 948 00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:19,079 aspects of a conspiracy all aspects of 949 00:36:17,159 --> 00:36:21,899 evidence whether it's cryptozoology and 950 00:36:19,079 --> 00:36:24,960 ufology and try to be objective as you 951 00:36:21,900 --> 00:36:26,460 can it's okay to entertain all these 952 00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:28,079 um theories 953 00:36:26,460 --> 00:36:30,300 and explanations as to what the 954 00:36:28,079 --> 00:36:32,099 phenomena is 955 00:36:30,300 --> 00:36:35,880 but 956 00:36:32,099 --> 00:36:38,099 whether it's a conspiracy like Q Anon 957 00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:41,579 or whether it's a government cover-up of 958 00:36:38,099 --> 00:36:45,300 the Roswell crash if you believe all 959 00:36:41,579 --> 00:36:48,300 conspiracies then none of them can be 960 00:36:45,300 --> 00:36:51,180 true and so I just think it's healthy to 961 00:36:48,300 --> 00:36:54,900 step back be objective you know enjoy 962 00:36:51,179 --> 00:36:57,118 the the the the prospect of 963 00:36:54,900 --> 00:36:58,980 discovering truth 964 00:36:57,119 --> 00:37:01,559 that has been hidden from us I think 965 00:36:58,980 --> 00:37:04,500 that's very fun and exciting but you 966 00:37:01,559 --> 00:37:07,019 need to be responsible and not 967 00:37:04,500 --> 00:37:08,400 just shift your faith from one voice to 968 00:37:07,019 --> 00:37:10,380 another voice to another person to 969 00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:12,720 another source 970 00:37:10,380 --> 00:37:14,940 um wholeheartedly and blindly so that 971 00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:16,379 that's a very slippery negative side to 972 00:37:14,940 --> 00:37:18,960 all of these topics 973 00:37:16,380 --> 00:37:20,519 personally I do think at some point or 974 00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:21,780 another we've had contact with aliens 975 00:37:20,519 --> 00:37:23,460 and I think maybe at some point or 976 00:37:21,780 --> 00:37:26,339 another we've had their recovered craft 977 00:37:23,460 --> 00:37:28,679 or given to us technology which is where 978 00:37:26,338 --> 00:37:30,119 stealth you look at where technology was 979 00:37:28,679 --> 00:37:31,559 20 years ago and you look at where it 980 00:37:30,119 --> 00:37:32,599 was 50 years ago and you look at where 981 00:37:31,559 --> 00:37:35,400 it is now 982 00:37:32,599 --> 00:37:37,500 microchips and lithium batteries and all 983 00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:39,720 that kind of stuff and every new plane 984 00:37:37,500 --> 00:37:41,400 that comes out is already you know they 985 00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:43,379 say that we're 30 years behind what the 986 00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:45,480 government and Labs already have you 987 00:37:43,380 --> 00:37:46,559 know and I think that's very true I 988 00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:48,119 think they're getting it from I think 989 00:37:46,559 --> 00:37:50,219 some of it could be very well reverse 990 00:37:48,119 --> 00:37:51,960 engineered you know where did Titanium 991 00:37:50,219 --> 00:37:54,719 come from how do you smelt it how do you 992 00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:56,639 work with it aluminum even in the 40s 993 00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:58,259 and 50s coming up was a very new thing 994 00:37:56,639 --> 00:37:59,460 where do we work with all these 995 00:37:58,260 --> 00:38:01,440 different how do you know things that 996 00:37:59,460 --> 00:38:03,599 we've had but how do we work with it to 997 00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:06,420 microchips to Battery Technology to 998 00:38:03,599 --> 00:38:08,519 touch screen technology to propulsion 999 00:38:06,420 --> 00:38:11,400 all these different things 1000 00:38:08,519 --> 00:38:13,199 and it seems to me that it's coming from 1001 00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:15,119 some other place other than our own 1002 00:38:13,199 --> 00:38:17,279 minds and our own research the 1003 00:38:15,119 --> 00:38:19,559 government either officially in some 1004 00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:21,240 capacity has some contact and continuing 1005 00:38:19,559 --> 00:38:22,500 contact with alien races or 1006 00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:25,139 interdimensional whatever these 1007 00:38:22,500 --> 00:38:26,460 creatures are and they're probably more 1008 00:38:25,139 --> 00:38:28,559 advanced than us and we're probably 1009 00:38:26,460 --> 00:38:30,358 getting some kind of a trade either 1010 00:38:28,559 --> 00:38:32,639 they're trading humans for abductions or 1011 00:38:30,358 --> 00:38:34,500 experiment purposes for technology who 1012 00:38:32,639 --> 00:38:36,179 knows what kind of you know deal in the 1013 00:38:34,500 --> 00:38:37,559 darks being made so yeah I think they 1014 00:38:36,179 --> 00:38:39,480 definitely want to keep it under wraps 1015 00:38:37,559 --> 00:38:41,940 and it kind of you know we're alone in 1016 00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:43,500 the universe and we went to the moon and 1017 00:38:41,940 --> 00:38:45,599 we weren't asked to leave the moon and 1018 00:38:43,500 --> 00:38:48,420 the space program and all our modern 1019 00:38:45,599 --> 00:38:50,460 science and Columbus discovered America 1020 00:38:48,420 --> 00:38:51,838 and all that it's all predicated on what 1021 00:38:50,460 --> 00:38:53,519 we know in our science and I think when 1022 00:38:51,838 --> 00:38:56,159 you introduce aliens not to mention 1023 00:38:53,519 --> 00:38:58,320 religion and God there's a lot of 1024 00:38:56,159 --> 00:39:00,000 questions that come up if you suddenly 1025 00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:02,099 acknowledge aliens existed and they're 1026 00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:03,599 more advanced and when you start getting 1027 00:39:02,099 --> 00:39:05,338 into 1028 00:39:03,599 --> 00:39:07,200 a lot of alien stuff about there seems 1029 00:39:05,338 --> 00:39:09,179 to be multiple and even hundreds even 1030 00:39:07,199 --> 00:39:11,460 thousands of species of aliens some that 1031 00:39:09,179 --> 00:39:12,899 look like insects and some that look 1032 00:39:11,460 --> 00:39:14,280 like big Nordic people and some that 1033 00:39:12,900 --> 00:39:16,500 look like the little gray aliens and 1034 00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:19,500 everything else and some are good for us 1035 00:39:16,500 --> 00:39:21,119 some are benign some are evil you know 1036 00:39:19,500 --> 00:39:23,219 if you want to some don't have our best 1037 00:39:21,119 --> 00:39:25,500 interest in mind so I think it's a big 1038 00:39:23,219 --> 00:39:27,779 can of worms for the government 1039 00:39:25,500 --> 00:39:29,519 yeah so for 10 or 13 years I was a 1040 00:39:27,780 --> 00:39:30,540 director of Investigations from Newfound 1041 00:39:29,519 --> 00:39:32,699 Los Angeles 1042 00:39:30,539 --> 00:39:36,000 where my job was essentially to go out 1043 00:39:32,699 --> 00:39:37,679 and investigate you know UFOs and in 1044 00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:39,900 that time period I've 1045 00:39:37,679 --> 00:39:41,460 I'm sure I invested over 300 cases you 1046 00:39:39,900 --> 00:39:43,260 know obviously a lot of them I was able 1047 00:39:41,460 --> 00:39:45,960 to kind of debunk right off the bat you 1048 00:39:43,260 --> 00:39:48,119 know but there's enough there 1049 00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:50,280 that was really compelling including we 1050 00:39:48,119 --> 00:39:51,420 had a case in Pine Mountain which is 1051 00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:54,060 about an hour and a half of Los Angeles 1052 00:39:51,420 --> 00:39:57,059 to two hours it's a little community 1053 00:39:54,059 --> 00:39:59,039 and we had a case where an object was 1054 00:39:57,059 --> 00:40:00,480 seen flying above someone's house by 1055 00:39:59,039 --> 00:40:03,239 different Witnesses from different 1056 00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:05,280 houses on two consecutive nights they 1057 00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:06,598 claim they landed in the forest and they 1058 00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:08,339 saw occupants 1059 00:40:06,599 --> 00:40:09,420 and if it wasn't for the quality of you 1060 00:40:08,338 --> 00:40:11,039 know of witnesses I'd be a little 1061 00:40:09,420 --> 00:40:12,240 skeptical because we're talking a pretty 1062 00:40:11,039 --> 00:40:14,519 far out story are we talking about 1063 00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:16,019 occupants but this came from a former uh 1064 00:40:14,519 --> 00:40:17,940 correctional officer 1065 00:40:16,019 --> 00:40:19,739 and like I said cooperated with a 1066 00:40:17,940 --> 00:40:21,720 neighbor that saw it and independently 1067 00:40:19,739 --> 00:40:23,519 and not only that but we walked to the 1068 00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:26,279 force and found a spot where supposedly 1069 00:40:23,519 --> 00:40:29,639 landed notes this big round circular uh 1070 00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:31,560 mark on in the middle of this field that 1071 00:40:29,639 --> 00:40:33,779 you know was hard to dismiss can 1072 00:40:31,559 --> 00:40:35,039 considering the stories we just heard so 1073 00:40:33,780 --> 00:40:36,780 normally a sighting would come in 1074 00:40:35,039 --> 00:40:38,519 somebody would either uh they would fill 1075 00:40:36,780 --> 00:40:40,500 out as a database for me some people 1076 00:40:38,519 --> 00:40:42,300 would fill it out and then that gets 1077 00:40:40,500 --> 00:40:44,099 funneled into like different sections 1078 00:40:42,300 --> 00:40:46,500 around the country where there's 1079 00:40:44,099 --> 00:40:47,760 different chapters right and Los Angeles 1080 00:40:46,500 --> 00:40:49,500 probably gets the most amount of 1081 00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:51,660 sightings just because it's a big you 1082 00:40:49,500 --> 00:40:54,119 know it's a big community and stuff 1083 00:40:51,659 --> 00:40:56,159 and um so that comes so I get emails I 1084 00:40:54,119 --> 00:40:58,380 also get emails about sightings and it 1085 00:40:56,159 --> 00:41:00,420 was my job to either sign someone 1086 00:40:58,380 --> 00:41:02,160 to do it which rarely there was anybody 1087 00:41:00,420 --> 00:41:03,480 else besides me you know occasionally 1088 00:41:02,159 --> 00:41:04,858 people would come in for a month or two 1089 00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:07,320 and they would quit 1090 00:41:04,858 --> 00:41:10,799 and then it was my job to follow up 1091 00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:12,420 and um usually you know most people kind 1092 00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:13,740 of just make a phone call 1093 00:41:12,420 --> 00:41:15,539 you know and then you know fill out the 1094 00:41:13,739 --> 00:41:16,500 database and all that but I have a 1095 00:41:15,539 --> 00:41:18,480 little more interest in it so I always 1096 00:41:16,500 --> 00:41:20,639 always try to go meet with someone so 1097 00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:22,500 then you go to the spot you try to go 1098 00:41:20,639 --> 00:41:24,598 the same time but they've had their 1099 00:41:22,500 --> 00:41:25,800 sighting around the same type of 1100 00:41:24,599 --> 00:41:27,838 conditions just in case if it's 1101 00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:28,920 something mundane a lot of times you can 1102 00:41:27,838 --> 00:41:30,299 see it rather you're like oh look it was 1103 00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:31,619 a blimp because it comes around around 1104 00:41:30,300 --> 00:41:33,240 that time you know 1105 00:41:31,619 --> 00:41:34,380 and then you kind of you know depending 1106 00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:35,199 what the case is you kind of go from 1107 00:41:34,380 --> 00:41:37,440 there 1108 00:41:35,199 --> 00:41:39,598 [Music] 1109 00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:40,880 I was looking this morning hoping to 1110 00:41:39,599 --> 00:41:43,680 find something 1111 00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:46,440 it's definitely harder to find good 1112 00:41:43,679 --> 00:41:49,919 footage of Bigfoot than it is of UFOs 1113 00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:52,320 when it comes to the UFO stuff uh when 1114 00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:53,940 you get into cattle mutilations and you 1115 00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:56,460 get into places like the Skinwalker 1116 00:41:53,940 --> 00:41:57,900 Ranch where they had UFO sightings there 1117 00:41:56,460 --> 00:42:00,000 are certain places if you follow my 1118 00:41:57,900 --> 00:42:02,400 channel really deep in there I call 1119 00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:04,079 places of high strangeness there are 1120 00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:05,700 places like Yosemite National Park which 1121 00:42:04,079 --> 00:42:07,440 is a missing 4-1-1 missing person 1122 00:42:05,699 --> 00:42:09,838 capital of the world hundreds of people 1123 00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:13,019 in the last 30 or 40 years have gone 1124 00:42:09,838 --> 00:42:14,639 missing in Yosemite National Park lots 1125 00:42:13,019 --> 00:42:17,639 and lots of missing people I think in 1126 00:42:14,639 --> 00:42:19,500 2017 there was 10 or 12 people that they 1127 00:42:17,639 --> 00:42:21,199 never found and I don't mean tripped and 1128 00:42:19,500 --> 00:42:24,900 fell or fell down a mountain I mean just 1129 00:42:21,199 --> 00:42:27,480 stories of kids kids too 1130 00:42:24,900 --> 00:42:29,160 elderly people where they're 15 20 feet 1131 00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:30,539 and they go around a rock or around a 1132 00:42:29,159 --> 00:42:32,219 corner and then they're never seen again 1133 00:42:30,539 --> 00:42:34,679 and found days later in weird 1134 00:42:32,219 --> 00:42:37,078 circumstances in these areas we'll have 1135 00:42:34,679 --> 00:42:38,759 UFO sighting strange lights in the skies 1136 00:42:37,079 --> 00:42:40,560 and then I'll also have Bigfoot 1137 00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:43,380 encounters too it seems like they just 1138 00:42:40,559 --> 00:42:47,338 get this paranormal you know to me it's 1139 00:42:43,380 --> 00:42:50,760 like Bigfoot is 99 well it's probably 80 1140 00:42:47,338 --> 00:42:52,380 percent human 19 ape and then one 1141 00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:54,780 percent something we don't know 1142 00:42:52,380 --> 00:42:56,400 something like if the Paranormal is a 1143 00:42:54,780 --> 00:42:58,680 pool it's got its big toe it's kicking 1144 00:42:56,400 --> 00:43:00,420 its toes in the Paranormal pool it's not 1145 00:42:58,679 --> 00:43:03,118 a paranormal entity it's not like a 1146 00:43:00,420 --> 00:43:06,300 ghost or something like that or a demon 1147 00:43:03,119 --> 00:43:07,800 but it definitely has that side to them 1148 00:43:06,300 --> 00:43:10,200 so there are all sorts of different 1149 00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:12,300 theories that I've heard out there that 1150 00:43:10,199 --> 00:43:14,818 bigfoots are spies for different alien 1151 00:43:12,300 --> 00:43:17,039 species I've heard encounters from 1152 00:43:14,818 --> 00:43:19,500 people who've had habituations with 1153 00:43:17,039 --> 00:43:21,539 Bigfoot families who where their family 1154 00:43:19,500 --> 00:43:23,039 lived on a property for many many years 1155 00:43:21,539 --> 00:43:25,139 and their bigfoots that live in the 1156 00:43:23,039 --> 00:43:27,900 areas and they would trade with them or 1157 00:43:25,139 --> 00:43:29,699 talk with them and even some people 1158 00:43:27,900 --> 00:43:31,858 communicate with them learn part of 1159 00:43:29,699 --> 00:43:33,539 their language it's out there stories 1160 00:43:31,858 --> 00:43:34,559 I've heard though can either confirm or 1161 00:43:33,539 --> 00:43:37,019 deny 1162 00:43:34,559 --> 00:43:38,940 talk that when bigfoots get to a certain 1163 00:43:37,019 --> 00:43:40,619 age they go with the star people 1164 00:43:38,940 --> 00:43:41,940 and then they come back I've heard 1165 00:43:40,619 --> 00:43:43,440 stories like that 1166 00:43:41,940 --> 00:43:45,240 and then there's other stories of people 1167 00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:46,679 you know a couple guys out in you know 1168 00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:48,539 out in the country drinking beer on 1169 00:43:46,679 --> 00:43:50,659 their tailgate and the UFO lands and 1170 00:43:48,539 --> 00:43:54,380 bigfoots get out 1171 00:43:50,659 --> 00:43:56,879 one of the most exciting aspects of 1172 00:43:54,380 --> 00:43:59,760 similarities between ufology and 1173 00:43:56,880 --> 00:44:03,079 cryptozoology are associated events 1174 00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:05,960 cattle mutilation often you see orbs 1175 00:44:03,079 --> 00:44:09,740 people have witnessed lights in the sky 1176 00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:13,199 UFOs associated with cattle mutilations 1177 00:44:09,739 --> 00:44:15,179 crop circles and Bigfoot sightings as 1178 00:44:13,199 --> 00:44:18,000 well encrypted events 1179 00:44:15,179 --> 00:44:22,139 so what does that mean if Bigfoot 1180 00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:24,059 is nothing more than another ape family 1181 00:44:22,139 --> 00:44:26,400 member 1182 00:44:24,059 --> 00:44:30,659 in the hominin branch that has yet to be 1183 00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:32,639 discovered our cousin you know out there 1184 00:44:30,659 --> 00:44:34,858 I've heard a lot of good explanations as 1185 00:44:32,639 --> 00:44:38,118 to why we haven't 1186 00:44:34,858 --> 00:44:38,119 caught them on camera 1187 00:44:39,358 --> 00:44:44,219 but at some point you would think why 1188 00:44:41,519 --> 00:44:47,219 why haven't we gotten enough 1189 00:44:44,219 --> 00:44:49,679 evidence with hair sampling and DNA 1190 00:44:47,219 --> 00:44:51,480 testing to just outright proof that 1191 00:44:49,679 --> 00:44:53,460 there's a brand new species I know 1192 00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:55,980 there's some good evidence out there 1193 00:44:53,460 --> 00:44:59,000 But ultimately with all the 1194 00:44:55,980 --> 00:44:59,000 the cameras 1195 00:44:59,338 --> 00:45:05,400 no one has caught a Bigfoot really 1196 00:45:02,338 --> 00:45:09,599 except for the Patterson film 1197 00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:12,119 so what what is Bigfoot doing that keeps 1198 00:45:09,599 --> 00:45:13,800 them so elusive 1199 00:45:12,119 --> 00:45:16,619 of course we have tracks and that sort 1200 00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:19,200 of thing I think I think there might be 1201 00:45:16,619 --> 00:45:22,380 something else going on here 1202 00:45:19,199 --> 00:45:24,539 I know it it's you know getting a little 1203 00:45:22,380 --> 00:45:27,358 bit out there 1204 00:45:24,539 --> 00:45:29,960 but the more and more I think about it I 1205 00:45:27,358 --> 00:45:33,019 I feel like 1206 00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:35,460 the idea that 1207 00:45:33,019 --> 00:45:38,039 extraterrestrials as people suspect them 1208 00:45:35,460 --> 00:45:41,400 to be are simply these physical nuts and 1209 00:45:38,039 --> 00:45:44,219 bolts beings that are coming here 1210 00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:46,800 um or that Bigfoot is a physical being 1211 00:45:44,219 --> 00:45:49,618 just living in the woods 1212 00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:53,339 may not be entirely true 1213 00:45:49,619 --> 00:45:55,880 uh it seems to me that Bigfoot has the 1214 00:45:53,338 --> 00:46:00,900 ability to slip in and out of detection 1215 00:45:55,880 --> 00:46:03,599 far too easily for some mammal that's 1216 00:46:00,900 --> 00:46:07,139 just yet to be caught on film 1217 00:46:03,599 --> 00:46:13,079 and with extraterrestrials 1218 00:46:07,139 --> 00:46:17,219 they too seem to have a will over 1219 00:46:13,079 --> 00:46:19,800 physics or reality as we understand it 1220 00:46:17,219 --> 00:46:21,659 and can manipulate 1221 00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:22,680 uh the world that we see in our five 1222 00:46:21,659 --> 00:46:24,779 senses 1223 00:46:22,679 --> 00:46:27,118 and slip in and out 1224 00:46:24,780 --> 00:46:28,680 of that view as well 1225 00:46:27,119 --> 00:46:32,460 and because those two things are 1226 00:46:28,679 --> 00:46:34,318 happening and we see events where they 1227 00:46:32,460 --> 00:46:37,318 overlap 1228 00:46:34,318 --> 00:46:38,400 maybe just maybe 1229 00:46:37,318 --> 00:46:40,739 um 1230 00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:41,760 these are these are beings that are 1231 00:46:40,739 --> 00:46:44,279 Beyond 1232 00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:46,440 uh just biological 1233 00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:48,420 here's the problem a lot of people have 1234 00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:50,220 with that and here's the problem a lot 1235 00:46:48,420 --> 00:46:52,200 of people have and I seem to be 1236 00:46:50,219 --> 00:46:54,779 defending those people who believe these 1237 00:46:52,199 --> 00:46:57,358 things are real without question now and 1238 00:46:54,780 --> 00:47:00,180 I'm not really doing that but here here 1239 00:46:57,358 --> 00:47:02,598 is something I will say I guess in their 1240 00:47:00,179 --> 00:47:02,598 defense 1241 00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:09,720 we are curious by Nature 1242 00:47:06,539 --> 00:47:11,940 what we have to be careful is is that we 1243 00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:14,879 don't automatically assume we know the 1244 00:47:11,940 --> 00:47:17,940 answers and project that answer on the 1245 00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:20,280 research if someone comes knocking at my 1246 00:47:17,940 --> 00:47:22,920 door at two o'clock in the morning 1247 00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:25,920 immediately I think uh oh something's 1248 00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:29,300 wrong or that could be somebody trying 1249 00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:33,000 to rob me that's a different supposition 1250 00:47:29,300 --> 00:47:34,440 than oh I just saw something walk by my 1251 00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:36,000 window oh that could have been a ghost 1252 00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:38,220 or a Bigfoot 1253 00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:39,719 that's an immediate conclusion that 1254 00:47:38,219 --> 00:47:42,239 you've projected 1255 00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:45,059 the proper way to handle that is well I 1256 00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:48,419 wonder what that was or I wonder who it 1257 00:47:45,059 --> 00:47:51,000 was so you turn on your lights maybe you 1258 00:47:48,420 --> 00:47:53,338 go to another window and investigate and 1259 00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:56,880 if you never figure out what or who it 1260 00:47:53,338 --> 00:47:59,039 was you don't immediately project an 1261 00:47:56,880 --> 00:48:01,019 answer without any evidence and that's 1262 00:47:59,039 --> 00:48:03,119 what a lot of people do 1263 00:48:01,019 --> 00:48:04,858 on the flip side of that that gets 1264 00:48:03,119 --> 00:48:07,920 people in trouble and that's what makes 1265 00:48:04,858 --> 00:48:10,019 this group of people so anti or are 1266 00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:12,720 drastically opposed to the investigation 1267 00:48:10,019 --> 00:48:15,500 and pursuit in the first place they look 1268 00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:18,598 at those people who are very 1269 00:48:15,500 --> 00:48:21,179 misdirected and have good intentions but 1270 00:48:18,599 --> 00:48:22,980 are very misdirected and they say well 1271 00:48:21,179 --> 00:48:24,598 that's the that's the standard of 1272 00:48:22,980 --> 00:48:27,059 reference for people who believe in 1273 00:48:24,599 --> 00:48:29,099 mysterious things or want to go out in 1274 00:48:27,059 --> 00:48:32,578 pursuit in search of the unknown well in 1275 00:48:29,099 --> 00:48:34,800 reality that's not that's not true 1276 00:48:32,579 --> 00:48:37,318 those people who just automatically 1277 00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:40,260 assume that you know this is all Bonkers 1278 00:48:37,318 --> 00:48:42,119 it's good to be a skeptic but it's not 1279 00:48:40,260 --> 00:48:44,220 good to be a cynic 1280 00:48:42,119 --> 00:48:47,519 don't be cynical just be skeptical 1281 00:48:44,219 --> 00:48:49,980 that's why I like Joe Nichol people hate 1282 00:48:47,519 --> 00:48:52,199 that guy has a PHD I believe in English 1283 00:48:49,980 --> 00:48:55,318 from the University of Kentucky and 1284 00:48:52,199 --> 00:48:58,259 works for an organization that pretty 1285 00:48:55,318 --> 00:49:00,838 much goes out and debunks things I 1286 00:48:58,260 --> 00:49:04,280 respect Joe Nichol because he applied 1287 00:49:00,838 --> 00:49:07,440 doesn't make fun of anybody he applies 1288 00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:08,579 that scientific inquiry and integrity to 1289 00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:11,700 the question 1290 00:49:08,579 --> 00:49:13,260 and he really wants to know the answer 1291 00:49:11,699 --> 00:49:15,659 to the question but he's not going to 1292 00:49:13,260 --> 00:49:19,140 immediately assume that it was Bigfoot 1293 00:49:15,659 --> 00:49:23,219 an alien Loch Ness the Nessie from Loch 1294 00:49:19,139 --> 00:49:24,838 Ness or ghost or a demon he doesn't jump 1295 00:49:23,219 --> 00:49:27,179 to those conclusions 1296 00:49:24,838 --> 00:49:29,338 there are other people however who are 1297 00:49:27,179 --> 00:49:32,338 so close-minded they don't even want to 1298 00:49:29,338 --> 00:49:35,338 investigate Joe will investigate 1299 00:49:32,338 --> 00:49:38,759 because it requires them to reorganize 1300 00:49:35,338 --> 00:49:39,858 their world view see we all have a 1301 00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:43,440 worldview 1302 00:49:39,858 --> 00:49:46,259 and if we were to find out if we were to 1303 00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:48,119 have an an experience 1304 00:49:46,260 --> 00:49:50,400 if we were to go hiking through the 1305 00:49:48,119 --> 00:49:53,579 woods and come upon one of these 1306 00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:56,760 creatures if they exist 1307 00:49:53,579 --> 00:49:59,400 and it's incontrovertible proof to us 1308 00:49:56,760 --> 00:50:01,079 and we are looking eye to eye 1309 00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:04,019 at this creature 1310 00:50:01,079 --> 00:50:08,119 and we live to tell about it we have to 1311 00:50:04,019 --> 00:50:08,119 then reorganize our entire world view 1312 00:50:09,539 --> 00:50:13,559 and just it's off it's fascinating I 1313 00:50:11,699 --> 00:50:15,960 mean bigfoots are given and so all you 1314 00:50:13,559 --> 00:50:18,719 got to do is find one I just don't know 1315 00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:21,119 if you're gonna do it on Bigfoot Hunters 1316 00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:23,939 you know eventually though 1317 00:50:21,119 --> 00:50:26,160 eventually we'll all wake up I would 1318 00:50:23,940 --> 00:50:28,740 think if you look at it for more of a 1319 00:50:26,159 --> 00:50:31,139 scientific hard fact if you accept the 1320 00:50:28,739 --> 00:50:33,000 possibility of alien life if you then 1321 00:50:31,139 --> 00:50:35,639 want to make the leap to people are 1322 00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:36,900 seeing UFOs in UFO means unidentified 1323 00:50:35,639 --> 00:50:38,400 flying object it just doesn't 1324 00:50:36,900 --> 00:50:40,019 necessarily mean alien it just means we 1325 00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:42,000 don't know what it is 1326 00:50:40,019 --> 00:50:43,559 and if you take the other leap and want 1327 00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:45,599 to go and yeah I believe aliens visit 1328 00:50:43,559 --> 00:50:48,318 the earth I believe you know the crash 1329 00:50:45,599 --> 00:50:52,079 at Roswell and the government cover-up 1330 00:50:48,318 --> 00:50:54,000 and and you believe that you know on 1331 00:50:52,079 --> 00:50:56,400 occasion you know these alien species 1332 00:50:54,000 --> 00:51:00,059 want to do abduct people for whatever 1333 00:50:56,400 --> 00:51:01,858 reason nefarious are good they want to 1334 00:51:00,059 --> 00:51:03,660 do experiments on us they want to 1335 00:51:01,858 --> 00:51:06,058 collect our DNA they want to study us 1336 00:51:03,659 --> 00:51:08,279 just like amazingly oh why would aliens 1337 00:51:06,059 --> 00:51:10,260 want to take people and study them what 1338 00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:12,119 do we do when we go study species as 1339 00:51:10,260 --> 00:51:14,700 humans as biologists 1340 00:51:12,119 --> 00:51:16,920 we tranquilize them we tag them we radio 1341 00:51:14,699 --> 00:51:18,480 collar them we take their height we take 1342 00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:20,220 their weight we check their teeth we 1343 00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:21,719 checked their claws and then we release 1344 00:51:20,219 --> 00:51:23,639 them back in the wild we do it every day 1345 00:51:21,719 --> 00:51:26,159 with bears and mountain lions and 1346 00:51:23,639 --> 00:51:27,719 coyotes and Badgers and gorillas and 1347 00:51:26,159 --> 00:51:28,858 chimpanzees and crocodiles and 1348 00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:30,959 everything else 1349 00:51:28,858 --> 00:51:33,179 so it would make sense to me if I was an 1350 00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:35,220 alien life form and I wanted to study 1351 00:51:33,179 --> 00:51:37,199 Earth for whatever reason and I was 1352 00:51:35,219 --> 00:51:39,000 abducting people what are these very 1353 00:51:37,199 --> 00:51:41,879 large hairy people that hide out in the 1354 00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:45,119 woods maybe I'm going to abduct them too 1355 00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:47,160 maybe they are genetically 1356 00:51:45,119 --> 00:51:48,960 manipulated by an ancient civilization 1357 00:51:47,159 --> 00:51:51,659 that's a theory about them maybe they're 1358 00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:54,358 genetically manipulated by aliens maybe 1359 00:51:51,659 --> 00:51:56,519 some ancient civilization tens of 1360 00:51:54,358 --> 00:51:58,980 thousands 20 30 000 years ago had some 1361 00:51:56,519 --> 00:52:00,480 advanced technology maybe we're not the 1362 00:51:58,980 --> 00:52:01,980 only ones that ever had what we call 1363 00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:04,079 technology 1364 00:52:01,980 --> 00:52:05,940 maybe they had influences from Aliens 1365 00:52:04,079 --> 00:52:07,740 there's all sorts of theories on where 1366 00:52:05,940 --> 00:52:09,960 their creation could be some of their 1367 00:52:07,739 --> 00:52:12,358 more paranormal abilities some of the 1368 00:52:09,960 --> 00:52:13,619 sightings of people like there's been a 1369 00:52:12,358 --> 00:52:15,358 lot of reports I've talked to people 1370 00:52:13,619 --> 00:52:17,338 from military bases who worked on 1371 00:52:15,358 --> 00:52:19,139 military bases as MPS and stuff and they 1372 00:52:17,338 --> 00:52:21,000 would see UFOs sightings all the time 1373 00:52:19,139 --> 00:52:23,039 and it was always don't ask don't tell 1374 00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:24,539 you didn't see anything but they also 1375 00:52:23,039 --> 00:52:26,940 had a lot of Bigfoot encounters too 1376 00:52:24,539 --> 00:52:28,259 Bigfoot's coming up to the fence and the 1377 00:52:26,940 --> 00:52:29,760 lights would flicker for a second into 1378 00:52:28,260 --> 00:52:33,180 bigfoots on the inside of the fence 1379 00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:34,559 strange stuff you know and the guards on 1380 00:52:33,179 --> 00:52:37,139 the perimeter are like yeah we see 1381 00:52:34,559 --> 00:52:39,839 bigfoots yep we see UFOs like it's a 1382 00:52:37,139 --> 00:52:41,699 weird ass world out there you know and 1383 00:52:39,838 --> 00:52:42,900 these are soldiers these are people you 1384 00:52:41,699 --> 00:52:44,639 know they don't have anything to gain 1385 00:52:42,900 --> 00:52:45,900 you know actually most a lot of people 1386 00:52:44,639 --> 00:52:47,639 want to remain anonymous because you 1387 00:52:45,900 --> 00:52:48,900 have everything to lose by talking about 1388 00:52:47,639 --> 00:52:51,000 Bigfoot 1389 00:52:48,900 --> 00:52:53,519 so there's definitely a connection there 1390 00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:55,199 what it is no one can definitively say 1391 00:52:53,519 --> 00:52:56,940 if I ever get abducted by aliens I'm 1392 00:52:55,199 --> 00:52:59,279 going to ask them you know hey before 1393 00:52:56,940 --> 00:53:00,900 you guys you know do your thing what's 1394 00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:03,059 the deal with Bigfoot is that you guys 1395 00:53:00,900 --> 00:53:05,579 or is that another tribe available or 1396 00:53:03,059 --> 00:53:07,019 species of aliens is uh what's going on 1397 00:53:05,579 --> 00:53:09,720 with that you know 1398 00:53:07,019 --> 00:53:11,400 and see we have as humans always been at 1399 00:53:09,719 --> 00:53:13,139 the top of the food chain 1400 00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:15,240 you know we're supposed to be the 1401 00:53:13,139 --> 00:53:17,098 smartest species I question that every 1402 00:53:15,239 --> 00:53:20,219 day but 1403 00:53:17,099 --> 00:53:21,780 if you come face to face with a bipedal 1404 00:53:20,219 --> 00:53:24,118 creature that stands about eight and 1405 00:53:21,780 --> 00:53:26,760 eight or nine feet tall and is smart 1406 00:53:24,119 --> 00:53:27,780 enough to have evaded detection and 1407 00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:29,940 capture 1408 00:53:27,780 --> 00:53:31,680 and live in the areas and the 1409 00:53:29,940 --> 00:53:34,019 environments that they live in just fine 1410 00:53:31,679 --> 00:53:36,259 then we have to reorganize our world 1411 00:53:34,019 --> 00:53:36,259 view 1412 00:53:37,260 --> 00:53:40,200 a certain portion of the UFO Community 1413 00:53:38,699 --> 00:53:41,219 which is it's a growing portion too it's 1414 00:53:40,199 --> 00:53:43,078 pretty big 1415 00:53:41,219 --> 00:53:45,058 think that space force was specifically 1416 00:53:43,079 --> 00:53:47,579 announced 1417 00:53:45,059 --> 00:53:48,720 because of the alien presence and UFOs 1418 00:53:47,579 --> 00:53:51,059 you know 1419 00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:52,500 and that you know the the White House 1420 00:53:51,059 --> 00:53:54,599 you know Trump and Pence and all that 1421 00:53:52,500 --> 00:53:56,818 are in in on the secret and they're 1422 00:53:54,599 --> 00:53:58,440 secretly fighting you know aliens you 1423 00:53:56,818 --> 00:53:59,818 know on the moon or whatever starting 1424 00:53:58,440 --> 00:54:03,599 right here 1425 00:53:59,818 --> 00:54:07,858 and right now because this moment is 1426 00:54:03,599 --> 00:54:09,960 your moment it belongs to you 1427 00:54:07,858 --> 00:54:12,058 I don't buy that at all personally and 1428 00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:13,920 I'm okay with the space force thing you 1429 00:54:12,059 --> 00:54:16,079 know I'm not a fan of thinking military 1430 00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:18,119 first in terms of space exploration 1431 00:54:16,079 --> 00:54:20,099 versus scientific exploration so that 1432 00:54:18,119 --> 00:54:21,599 bothers me a little bit but I'm okay 1433 00:54:20,099 --> 00:54:23,519 with it but 1434 00:54:21,599 --> 00:54:25,200 it's just that's not how any of this 1435 00:54:23,519 --> 00:54:27,239 works now you know whether you like 1436 00:54:25,199 --> 00:54:30,419 Trump or not regardless I I don't care 1437 00:54:27,239 --> 00:54:31,379 but that's not present isn't going to be 1438 00:54:30,420 --> 00:54:33,599 in the know 1439 00:54:31,380 --> 00:54:34,920 not a gas from the outside of the if 1440 00:54:33,599 --> 00:54:36,359 anybody knows it's someone that's 1441 00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:39,240 involved in the military-industrial 1442 00:54:36,358 --> 00:54:41,699 complex you know and that would be maybe 1443 00:54:39,239 --> 00:54:43,558 Bush would be the last the Father Bush 1444 00:54:41,699 --> 00:54:45,179 would be the last guy maybe that would 1445 00:54:43,559 --> 00:54:46,740 be in the know 1446 00:54:45,179 --> 00:54:48,539 I don't think necessarily presidents 1447 00:54:46,739 --> 00:54:49,379 know the whole story and certainly 1448 00:54:48,539 --> 00:54:51,000 they're not going to create a whole 1449 00:54:49,380 --> 00:54:52,980 space for us just to fight aliens I mean 1450 00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:54,719 that sounds like fantasy to me you know 1451 00:54:52,980 --> 00:54:57,719 yeah I think of all the presidents the 1452 00:54:54,719 --> 00:54:59,578 you know the older Bush I has really 1453 00:54:57,719 --> 00:55:01,439 talked about UFOs if ever but I think it 1454 00:54:59,579 --> 00:55:03,839 makes sense in terms of he was a CIA guy 1455 00:55:01,440 --> 00:55:05,220 those guys you know have aren't going to 1456 00:55:03,838 --> 00:55:07,440 talk they're in it for life you know and 1457 00:55:05,219 --> 00:55:10,139 if anybody out of the president's from 1458 00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:11,280 from baby Bush to Clinton to Trump is 1459 00:55:10,139 --> 00:55:13,078 going to know anything he would be the 1460 00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:15,359 guy but it would be the last guy I would 1461 00:55:13,079 --> 00:55:17,760 expect to actually talk about it you 1462 00:55:15,358 --> 00:55:20,159 know I think it's so compartmentalized 1463 00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:22,859 and it's such a need to know basis that 1464 00:55:20,159 --> 00:55:24,299 so few people know the whole story I 1465 00:55:22,858 --> 00:55:26,400 don't think I need a presence 1466 00:55:24,300 --> 00:55:28,619 certainly not the vice presidents or you 1467 00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:29,639 know it's become very popular now right 1468 00:55:28,619 --> 00:55:31,200 for someone that's running for president 1469 00:55:29,639 --> 00:55:33,299 they're like well I'm going to disclose 1470 00:55:31,199 --> 00:55:35,098 I'm gonna look into the alien thing I 1471 00:55:33,300 --> 00:55:37,200 see these articles or this post on 1472 00:55:35,099 --> 00:55:39,960 Facebook almost daily now it's just not 1473 00:55:37,199 --> 00:55:42,419 the way it works you know 1474 00:55:39,960 --> 00:55:44,280 with Jimmy Carter reporting 1475 00:55:42,420 --> 00:55:47,280 some years later he didn't immediately 1476 00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:51,900 do it but several years later when he 1477 00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:55,859 reported the UFO it went into the annals 1478 00:55:51,900 --> 00:55:59,099 of History it is now a documented UFO 1479 00:55:55,858 --> 00:56:01,739 Reporting again that is a scientific 1480 00:55:59,099 --> 00:56:03,720 term if I were to walk outside my front 1481 00:56:01,739 --> 00:56:07,318 door and see a bright red glowing object 1482 00:56:03,719 --> 00:56:09,959 in the sky that I couldn't identify as a 1483 00:56:07,318 --> 00:56:11,279 plane or the Goodyear blimp which I I 1484 00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:13,440 don't understand I don't think it would 1485 00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:15,119 ever glow in the orange if I have no 1486 00:56:13,440 --> 00:56:17,220 evidence to contrary then I'm just going 1487 00:56:15,119 --> 00:56:20,760 to say there was an unidentified object 1488 00:56:17,219 --> 00:56:23,338 flying in the sky above my home that's a 1489 00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:25,800 scientific explanation of the unknown 1490 00:56:23,338 --> 00:56:28,440 it's it you know at that moment that it 1491 00:56:25,800 --> 00:56:30,780 was a flying and it was B unidentified 1492 00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:33,119 and you can identify say the location 1493 00:56:30,780 --> 00:56:35,280 that's the best you can do those are all 1494 00:56:33,119 --> 00:56:37,079 very accurate statements so what Jimmy 1495 00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:39,540 Carter did he brought an air of 1496 00:56:37,079 --> 00:56:43,260 credibility to the reporting but Jimmy 1497 00:56:39,539 --> 00:56:47,159 Carter was and still is at 96 years oh a 1498 00:56:43,260 --> 00:56:50,280 very credible individual I surmised he 1499 00:56:47,159 --> 00:56:52,259 lost the presidency in 1980 to Ronald 1500 00:56:50,280 --> 00:56:54,839 Reagan because he was just too honest 1501 00:56:52,260 --> 00:56:56,940 and that's what we've got to have that 1502 00:56:54,838 --> 00:57:00,239 that is one thing we've got to look for 1503 00:56:56,940 --> 00:57:02,579 when we do research into the unknown and 1504 00:57:00,239 --> 00:57:05,879 we try to we try to resolve these issues 1505 00:57:02,579 --> 00:57:07,559 and solve Mysteries you have to look for 1506 00:57:05,880 --> 00:57:10,619 the more credible 1507 00:57:07,559 --> 00:57:12,300 the more reliable resources and reports 1508 00:57:10,619 --> 00:57:13,858 you have to and that's why it's so 1509 00:57:12,300 --> 00:57:15,059 important to know the people reporting 1510 00:57:13,858 --> 00:57:17,000 these phenomena 1511 00:57:15,059 --> 00:57:21,059 the other major difference between 1512 00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:22,260 ufology and cryptozoology is the 1513 00:57:21,059 --> 00:57:24,480 evidence 1514 00:57:22,260 --> 00:57:27,260 cryptozoology doesn't have nearly as 1515 00:57:24,480 --> 00:57:29,699 much supportive evidence 1516 00:57:27,260 --> 00:57:33,720 compared to ufology and I know that 1517 00:57:29,699 --> 00:57:37,578 Ruffles some feathers yes there are uh 1518 00:57:33,719 --> 00:57:39,899 Footprints yes we have some sampling yes 1519 00:57:37,579 --> 00:57:42,240 we have 1520 00:57:39,900 --> 00:57:43,318 some video not really the best in 1521 00:57:42,239 --> 00:57:44,818 general 1522 00:57:43,318 --> 00:57:48,058 but 1523 00:57:44,818 --> 00:57:51,239 nephology has a rich history 1524 00:57:48,059 --> 00:57:53,220 all the way back to the 1947 Nathan 1525 00:57:51,239 --> 00:57:54,779 Twining memo Lieutenant General Nathan 1526 00:57:53,219 --> 00:57:57,419 20. 1527 00:57:54,780 --> 00:58:00,300 openly in his report 1528 00:57:57,420 --> 00:58:04,920 speculating that Kraft witnessed by 1529 00:58:00,300 --> 00:58:06,839 pilots and and military personnel 1530 00:58:04,920 --> 00:58:10,200 could possibly be something that's 1531 00:58:06,838 --> 00:58:12,480 off-world and there's a rich history all 1532 00:58:10,199 --> 00:58:15,118 the way through a numerous public and 1533 00:58:12,480 --> 00:58:18,300 secretive projects 1534 00:58:15,119 --> 00:58:20,460 um regarding the investigation of UFOs 1535 00:58:18,300 --> 00:58:22,619 and that leads all the way through 1536 00:58:20,460 --> 00:58:23,760 Project Blue Book up until the atip 1537 00:58:22,619 --> 00:58:27,960 program 1538 00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:30,839 and so you combine that with the number 1539 00:58:27,960 --> 00:58:32,338 of eyewitnesses who are pilots and 1540 00:58:30,838 --> 00:58:34,019 military personnel that have come 1541 00:58:32,338 --> 00:58:36,779 forward over the years 1542 00:58:34,019 --> 00:58:39,298 uh coronal Colonel Philip Corso I mean 1543 00:58:36,780 --> 00:58:41,280 controversial as he may be 1544 00:58:39,298 --> 00:58:42,838 you know there's a rich history there 1545 00:58:41,280 --> 00:58:44,400 people saying look I've worked behind 1546 00:58:42,838 --> 00:58:46,139 the scenes 1547 00:58:44,400 --> 00:58:48,000 um and this is what happened this is 1548 00:58:46,139 --> 00:58:50,879 what I saw 1549 00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:54,239 and so when the government is spending 1550 00:58:50,880 --> 00:58:58,380 so much time energy and resource and 1551 00:58:54,239 --> 00:59:00,000 money into investigating UFOs 1552 00:58:58,380 --> 00:59:02,579 um 1553 00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:04,920 there must be something there 1554 00:59:02,579 --> 00:59:06,780 whereas with cryptozoology you just 1555 00:59:04,920 --> 00:59:07,500 don't have that 1556 00:59:06,780 --> 00:59:10,260 um 1557 00:59:07,500 --> 00:59:13,079 you know I guess 1558 00:59:10,260 --> 00:59:16,020 I guess if the government thought that 1559 00:59:13,079 --> 00:59:16,980 Cryptids were more of a 1560 00:59:16,019 --> 00:59:19,079 um 1561 00:59:16,980 --> 00:59:21,179 National Security 1562 00:59:19,079 --> 00:59:23,400 threat then they would maybe investigate 1563 00:59:21,179 --> 00:59:24,358 those things I don't know 1564 00:59:23,400 --> 00:59:25,980 um 1565 00:59:24,358 --> 00:59:28,619 you know we had 1566 00:59:25,980 --> 00:59:31,500 we had psychic programs 1567 00:59:28,619 --> 00:59:34,200 only because you know for remote viewing 1568 00:59:31,500 --> 00:59:35,639 only because the Russians were doing 1569 00:59:34,199 --> 00:59:39,419 this so 1570 00:59:35,639 --> 00:59:40,500 would we have ever looked into 1571 00:59:39,420 --> 00:59:43,680 um 1572 00:59:40,500 --> 00:59:44,940 using psychics to remote view unless the 1573 00:59:43,679 --> 00:59:48,419 Russians were doing it so that's a 1574 00:59:44,940 --> 00:59:49,619 national security issue right there so 1575 00:59:48,420 --> 00:59:51,119 that's the only reason I could think 1576 00:59:49,619 --> 00:59:52,798 that maybe the government would 1577 00:59:51,119 --> 00:59:56,640 investigate 1578 00:59:52,798 --> 01:00:00,480 that the problem is so many Cryptids 1579 00:59:56,639 --> 01:00:03,539 um get mixed and there's a cross over 1580 01:00:00,480 --> 01:00:04,980 effect between imagine Pure Imagination 1581 01:00:03,539 --> 01:00:08,039 of 1582 01:00:04,980 --> 01:00:10,380 you know creatures from our mythologies 1583 01:00:08,039 --> 01:00:13,338 to actual 1584 01:00:10,380 --> 01:00:16,920 creatures that have been eyewitnessed 1585 01:00:13,338 --> 01:00:19,380 or blurly caught on camera 1586 01:00:16,920 --> 01:00:21,119 so there's just I 1587 01:00:19,380 --> 01:00:24,119 I support 1588 01:00:21,119 --> 01:00:27,119 actually spending more time and energy 1589 01:00:24,119 --> 01:00:28,440 and money into investing Cryptids and I 1590 01:00:27,119 --> 01:00:31,039 think that there's a lot more that can 1591 01:00:28,440 --> 01:00:34,019 be done and I think that in ufology 1592 01:00:31,039 --> 01:00:36,838 there's just been way more Collective 1593 01:00:34,019 --> 01:00:38,940 resource put into the investigation from 1594 01:00:36,838 --> 01:00:41,519 civilians and the government and 1595 01:00:38,940 --> 01:00:44,780 institutions and Academia in general 1596 01:00:41,519 --> 01:00:46,400 there's just not nearly as much effort 1597 01:00:44,780 --> 01:00:49,079 investigating 1598 01:00:46,400 --> 01:00:50,579 cryptozoology so that's a whole other 1599 01:00:49,079 --> 01:00:51,660 door that I think that that should be 1600 01:00:50,579 --> 01:00:53,700 opened 1601 01:00:51,659 --> 01:00:55,858 well in terms of my favorite evidence 1602 01:00:53,699 --> 01:00:59,159 for UFO sightings is probably my own 1603 01:00:55,858 --> 01:01:02,219 sighting which I had as a kid 1604 01:00:59,159 --> 01:01:03,719 it was I was about I was age 10. yeah I 1605 01:01:02,219 --> 01:01:05,279 lived right here in Los Angeles and 1606 01:01:03,719 --> 01:01:07,439 we're hanging out by the pool with my 1607 01:01:05,280 --> 01:01:09,720 mom and I believe it was a hairdresser 1608 01:01:07,440 --> 01:01:11,460 it was throughout the time you know so 1609 01:01:09,719 --> 01:01:13,019 hang out by the pool probably maybe 1610 01:01:11,460 --> 01:01:14,519 eating something getting some drinks it 1611 01:01:13,019 --> 01:01:17,219 was pretty late well I wasn't drinking 1612 01:01:14,519 --> 01:01:18,960 not go August you know I was 10 but 1613 01:01:17,219 --> 01:01:20,818 but and then all of a sudden we saw this 1614 01:01:18,960 --> 01:01:22,740 big light that kind of came down and 1615 01:01:20,818 --> 01:01:24,960 hovered above us about 30 feet above our 1616 01:01:22,739 --> 01:01:28,439 heads above the pool uh completely 1617 01:01:24,960 --> 01:01:30,119 silent uh about you know 30 foot across 1618 01:01:28,440 --> 01:01:32,460 about three foot up in the air so about 1619 01:01:30,119 --> 01:01:33,780 30 by 30. and I'd say they're selling 1620 01:01:32,460 --> 01:01:36,659 and it kind of either blinked off or 1621 01:01:33,780 --> 01:01:38,040 took off you know three of us saw it 1622 01:01:36,659 --> 01:01:39,598 and 1623 01:01:38,039 --> 01:01:41,639 so after seeing something like that even 1624 01:01:39,599 --> 01:01:42,900 at age 10 and you know as you get older 1625 01:01:41,639 --> 01:01:45,358 you kind of go back and you're like well 1626 01:01:42,900 --> 01:01:46,920 maybe I misunderstood what I saw was a 1627 01:01:45,358 --> 01:01:49,619 helicopter or whatever but you know I 1628 01:01:46,920 --> 01:01:52,019 still ask my mom once in a while and 1629 01:01:49,619 --> 01:01:54,119 to me I just can't deny what I saw so 1630 01:01:52,019 --> 01:01:56,759 from that standpoint that's by far the 1631 01:01:54,119 --> 01:01:59,338 most believable you know UFO 1632 01:01:56,760 --> 01:02:00,540 um event otherwise I mean you know you 1633 01:01:59,338 --> 01:02:02,460 look through history there's that 1634 01:02:00,539 --> 01:02:05,338 there's a lot of anything that has to do 1635 01:02:02,460 --> 01:02:07,139 with like fighter pilots or airline 1636 01:02:05,338 --> 01:02:08,400 pilots that cufos are obviously very 1637 01:02:07,139 --> 01:02:11,279 believable because they're trained up 1638 01:02:08,400 --> 01:02:14,099 server I even interviewed us uh pilot 1639 01:02:11,280 --> 01:02:16,619 that was an Air France ballad and uh he 1640 01:02:14,099 --> 01:02:18,240 was 747 at the time pilot he told me 1641 01:02:16,619 --> 01:02:20,519 that he used to see UFOs 1642 01:02:18,239 --> 01:02:21,838 pretty regularly in cross-atlantic 1643 01:02:20,519 --> 01:02:23,159 flights and he's like I'm going to be 1644 01:02:21,838 --> 01:02:25,318 honest with you he's like a lot of us 1645 01:02:23,159 --> 01:02:26,759 have seen him he showed me a map in fact 1646 01:02:25,318 --> 01:02:28,318 of where all the sightings took place 1647 01:02:26,760 --> 01:02:30,180 from like various Pilots that he 1648 01:02:28,318 --> 01:02:31,739 interviewed and it was like it was 1649 01:02:30,179 --> 01:02:33,539 filled it was filled he had all these 1650 01:02:31,739 --> 01:02:35,279 dots everywhere 1651 01:02:33,539 --> 01:02:36,838 and he's like we all see him we all know 1652 01:02:35,280 --> 01:02:38,700 they're there but 1653 01:02:36,838 --> 01:02:39,960 you know we don't lose our job so we 1654 01:02:38,699 --> 01:02:41,279 don't talk about it you know so that 1655 01:02:39,960 --> 01:02:43,500 kind of evidence obviously you know 1656 01:02:41,280 --> 01:02:46,380 extremely compelling and I was reading 1657 01:02:43,500 --> 01:02:48,358 this this article from a science website 1658 01:02:46,380 --> 01:02:51,599 a credible science website where they've 1659 01:02:48,358 --> 01:02:54,480 recently found evidence that there could 1660 01:02:51,599 --> 01:02:57,240 possibly be a life-sustaining planet in 1661 01:02:54,480 --> 01:02:58,858 or planets in other systems that we're 1662 01:02:57,239 --> 01:03:01,558 kind of to a point now where we're 1663 01:02:58,858 --> 01:03:03,179 almost ready to accept that that is a 1664 01:03:01,559 --> 01:03:06,180 distinct possibility 1665 01:03:03,179 --> 01:03:08,219 so if that's a distinct possibility and 1666 01:03:06,179 --> 01:03:12,358 we've done really well in this on this 1667 01:03:08,219 --> 01:03:14,759 planet then there is certainly 1668 01:03:12,358 --> 01:03:17,699 um there's certainly the possibility 1669 01:03:14,760 --> 01:03:20,220 that life is developed quicker and more 1670 01:03:17,699 --> 01:03:22,259 intelligently and more technologically 1671 01:03:20,219 --> 01:03:24,838 advanced in other systems who are trying 1672 01:03:22,260 --> 01:03:26,760 to contact us I have never seen any 1673 01:03:24,838 --> 01:03:30,000 evidence of that but I keep a very open 1674 01:03:26,760 --> 01:03:34,040 mind that doesn't 1675 01:03:30,000 --> 01:03:34,039 that doesn't really scare me 1676 01:03:35,880 --> 01:03:39,660 so most people will tell you that with 1677 01:03:37,500 --> 01:03:41,039 uf4 settings it's pretty random but I 1678 01:03:39,659 --> 01:03:42,719 don't believe that's the case now 1679 01:03:41,039 --> 01:03:44,818 granted a lot of them are pretty random 1680 01:03:42,719 --> 01:03:46,019 you know because it occurs all over the 1681 01:03:44,818 --> 01:03:48,358 world right but there's definitely 1682 01:03:46,019 --> 01:03:50,699 specific areas around the world that 1683 01:03:48,358 --> 01:03:52,558 have a long history of sightings 1684 01:03:50,699 --> 01:03:53,818 and there's still current there's a 1685 01:03:52,559 --> 01:03:55,440 Kazakhstan 1686 01:03:53,818 --> 01:03:56,338 for whatever reason hot in the middle of 1687 01:03:55,440 --> 01:03:58,260 nowhere there's a lot of sightings 1688 01:03:56,338 --> 01:04:00,779 Siberia in the United States you have 1689 01:03:58,260 --> 01:04:02,520 the St Louis mountains St Louis Valley 1690 01:04:00,780 --> 01:04:04,500 I'm sorry which is in Southern Colorado 1691 01:04:02,519 --> 01:04:07,380 which had sightings 1692 01:04:04,500 --> 01:04:08,818 for generations and until and still 1693 01:04:07,380 --> 01:04:10,260 today you have a plethora of sightings 1694 01:04:08,818 --> 01:04:13,259 you have Kettle mutilations a lot of 1695 01:04:10,260 --> 01:04:15,839 related phenomena in a very in a smaller 1696 01:04:13,260 --> 01:04:17,760 geographical area and I think that we 1697 01:04:15,838 --> 01:04:19,500 don't spend enough time going to those 1698 01:04:17,760 --> 01:04:21,920 spots that have a long history of 1699 01:04:19,500 --> 01:04:21,920 sightings 1700 01:04:22,920 --> 01:04:25,680 so you get to a point where your 1701 01:04:24,358 --> 01:04:27,058 research with Bigfoot where you've read 1702 01:04:25,679 --> 01:04:28,739 the books you watch the documentaries 1703 01:04:27,059 --> 01:04:30,599 and you're like I want more 1704 01:04:28,739 --> 01:04:32,519 and then you start looking in the UFO 1705 01:04:30,599 --> 01:04:34,798 world you start looking in not just 1706 01:04:32,519 --> 01:04:36,960 Bigfoot but the bigger cryptological 1707 01:04:34,798 --> 01:04:38,699 umbrella and you start realizing all 1708 01:04:36,960 --> 01:04:40,079 across the United States I mean my 1709 01:04:38,699 --> 01:04:42,179 primary research is in the United States 1710 01:04:40,079 --> 01:04:43,440 but all over the world you're like parts 1711 01:04:42,179 --> 01:04:45,179 of the United States they're seeing a 1712 01:04:43,440 --> 01:04:46,858 goat man parts of the United States like 1713 01:04:45,179 --> 01:04:48,838 in Loveland Ohio they're seeing a giant 1714 01:04:46,858 --> 01:04:50,699 frog man so yeah I think you get to a 1715 01:04:48,838 --> 01:04:52,019 certain level with your Bigfoot research 1716 01:04:50,699 --> 01:04:54,000 where you almost have to start looking 1717 01:04:52,019 --> 01:04:55,739 at the bigger cryptos illogical umbrella 1718 01:04:54,000 --> 01:04:57,659 you have to start looking at the 1719 01:04:55,739 --> 01:04:59,338 Paranormal side of it what are ghost 1720 01:04:57,659 --> 01:05:02,159 hunters experiencing what are they doing 1721 01:04:59,338 --> 01:05:03,659 what are the UFO people doing how do 1722 01:05:02,159 --> 01:05:05,818 they conduct their investigations what 1723 01:05:03,659 --> 01:05:07,500 do they do with Witnesses what problems 1724 01:05:05,818 --> 01:05:09,480 do they have and you realize you're all 1725 01:05:07,500 --> 01:05:12,059 kind of it's different subjects but you 1726 01:05:09,480 --> 01:05:15,179 have all the same issues 1727 01:05:12,059 --> 01:05:18,000 what I enjoy most about both 1728 01:05:15,179 --> 01:05:20,699 cryptozoology and uthology honestly is 1729 01:05:18,000 --> 01:05:24,059 the camaraderie the people in those 1730 01:05:20,699 --> 01:05:25,618 communities are just so enjoy having 1731 01:05:24,059 --> 01:05:27,059 conversations with them and working 1732 01:05:25,619 --> 01:05:28,318 together 1733 01:05:27,059 --> 01:05:30,240 um with them 1734 01:05:28,318 --> 01:05:31,699 there's a lot of 1735 01:05:30,239 --> 01:05:34,858 support 1736 01:05:31,699 --> 01:05:38,279 and um 1737 01:05:34,858 --> 01:05:39,480 and I think that might come from the 1738 01:05:38,280 --> 01:05:42,240 fact that 1739 01:05:39,480 --> 01:05:43,260 often people I think see those of us who 1740 01:05:42,239 --> 01:05:47,578 are interested 1741 01:05:43,260 --> 01:05:50,299 in these fields as a little off 1742 01:05:47,579 --> 01:05:53,400 um maybe like we have disassociative 1743 01:05:50,298 --> 01:05:56,880 associative disorders or something 1744 01:05:53,400 --> 01:05:57,480 um or that we're sad and uneducated and 1745 01:05:56,880 --> 01:05:59,280 um 1746 01:05:57,480 --> 01:06:00,719 and that's really unfair 1747 01:05:59,280 --> 01:06:05,160 in fact 1748 01:06:00,719 --> 01:06:07,980 there's a lot of very smart people that 1749 01:06:05,159 --> 01:06:09,358 are investigating these things and we 1750 01:06:07,980 --> 01:06:10,740 have a sense of humor about this stuff 1751 01:06:09,358 --> 01:06:12,539 too 1752 01:06:10,739 --> 01:06:14,699 um you know we get it that that we're 1753 01:06:12,539 --> 01:06:16,798 discussing things that are like just 1754 01:06:14,699 --> 01:06:18,779 totally out there 1755 01:06:16,798 --> 01:06:22,380 um but that's okay that's part of the 1756 01:06:18,780 --> 01:06:24,780 fun of it as well and uh and I think 1757 01:06:22,380 --> 01:06:26,099 that you know because you can be judged 1758 01:06:24,780 --> 01:06:28,559 harshly for having these sort of 1759 01:06:26,099 --> 01:06:30,900 interests that in a way it almost brings 1760 01:06:28,559 --> 01:06:33,839 you together and 1761 01:06:30,900 --> 01:06:36,480 um it causes you to have some sort of uh 1762 01:06:33,838 --> 01:06:38,460 empathy for each other 1763 01:06:36,480 --> 01:06:39,780 um a connection that sense of belonging 1764 01:06:38,460 --> 01:06:43,380 to a tribe 1765 01:06:39,780 --> 01:06:45,298 as it were uh and that you know that we 1766 01:06:43,380 --> 01:06:47,599 will be there to support and um defend 1767 01:06:45,298 --> 01:06:47,599 each other 1768 01:06:49,500 --> 01:06:52,619 you know a lot of people talk about 1769 01:06:50,579 --> 01:06:55,079 disclosure but they're waiting on this 1770 01:06:52,619 --> 01:06:56,519 like almost like on this Messiah to give 1771 01:06:55,079 --> 01:06:58,440 you disclosure and it's not going to 1772 01:06:56,519 --> 01:06:59,519 happen you know obviously I mean every 1773 01:06:58,440 --> 01:07:01,318 year it's like this is going to be the 1774 01:06:59,519 --> 01:07:03,059 year you know I think we should be 1775 01:07:01,318 --> 01:07:04,619 focusing a lot more on being proactive 1776 01:07:03,059 --> 01:07:06,539 and hitting those areas that a lot of 1777 01:07:04,619 --> 01:07:09,059 people want to go into you know instead 1778 01:07:06,539 --> 01:07:09,839 of reacting you know be proactive which 1779 01:07:09,059 --> 01:07:11,819 is 1780 01:07:09,838 --> 01:07:13,380 in the sense the same way we do Bigfoot 1781 01:07:11,818 --> 01:07:15,239 research where I try to be proactive go 1782 01:07:13,380 --> 01:07:17,880 and get the evidence and found you know 1783 01:07:15,239 --> 01:07:20,279 Bigfoot ourselves and I think whatever 1784 01:07:17,880 --> 01:07:21,420 strange you know phenomena or modalities 1785 01:07:20,280 --> 01:07:23,960 you're dealing with I think that should 1786 01:07:21,420 --> 01:07:23,960 be the approach 1787 01:07:24,900 --> 01:07:31,980 are they are they are they meat eaters I 1788 01:07:27,298 --> 01:07:33,599 would think right and what Hana bear 1789 01:07:31,980 --> 01:07:36,000 go tackle a bear 1790 01:07:33,599 --> 01:07:37,859 cook them up I don't know if I was a 1791 01:07:36,000 --> 01:07:39,900 Bigfoot hunter the first thing I would 1792 01:07:37,858 --> 01:07:41,639 be going after is well what is this you 1793 01:07:39,900 --> 01:07:43,798 know let's do some let's spend some real 1794 01:07:41,639 --> 01:07:45,298 quality time researching what we think 1795 01:07:43,798 --> 01:07:48,538 this thing eats and 1796 01:07:45,298 --> 01:07:49,259 and go where the food is follow the 1797 01:07:48,539 --> 01:07:51,059 money 1798 01:07:49,260 --> 01:07:52,740 like Bigfoot so when you go research 1799 01:07:51,059 --> 01:07:54,539 Bigfoot in the field now occasionally 1800 01:07:52,739 --> 01:07:56,639 it'll be just like a UFO saying when 1801 01:07:54,539 --> 01:07:58,200 you'll get a sightings report somewhere 1802 01:07:56,639 --> 01:08:00,440 in an area and you can follow up on it 1803 01:07:58,199 --> 01:08:02,939 but a lot of times a lot more remote 1804 01:08:00,440 --> 01:08:04,260 than a UFO setting so it's very hard to 1805 01:08:02,940 --> 01:08:06,119 get out there you know in time you know 1806 01:08:04,260 --> 01:08:09,780 and it costs money and time and all that 1807 01:08:06,119 --> 01:08:12,539 the crossover between Cryptids 1808 01:08:09,780 --> 01:08:13,980 and extraterrestrials 1809 01:08:12,539 --> 01:08:18,119 UFOs 1810 01:08:13,980 --> 01:08:21,420 is that there's this meeting of the 1811 01:08:18,119 --> 01:08:25,559 tangible and intangible 1812 01:08:21,420 --> 01:08:28,259 and I love that Nexus where both of 1813 01:08:25,560 --> 01:08:31,140 those worlds meet 1814 01:08:28,259 --> 01:08:35,100 um our understanding of time space is 1815 01:08:31,140 --> 01:08:39,000 expanding our understanding of the very 1816 01:08:35,100 --> 01:08:41,400 structure of the nature of reality is 1817 01:08:39,000 --> 01:08:43,859 almost getting looser and more 1818 01:08:41,399 --> 01:08:46,858 interesting it's expanding as well 1819 01:08:43,859 --> 01:08:50,819 and that means there are just 1820 01:08:46,859 --> 01:08:53,880 perhaps infinite possibilities 1821 01:08:50,819 --> 01:08:55,500 and so if we imagine something to be 1822 01:08:53,880 --> 01:08:58,460 real 1823 01:08:55,500 --> 01:08:58,460 if we imagine 1824 01:08:58,619 --> 01:09:03,838 that we can Traverse the cosmos and be 1825 01:09:01,798 --> 01:09:05,880 at the another part of the Galaxy within 1826 01:09:03,838 --> 01:09:07,979 just a few minutes 1827 01:09:05,880 --> 01:09:10,980 if we can imagine that 1828 01:09:07,979 --> 01:09:14,818 Consciousness exists 1829 01:09:10,979 --> 01:09:17,278 everywhere almost simultaneously 1830 01:09:14,819 --> 01:09:19,199 if science teases that all these things 1831 01:09:17,279 --> 01:09:21,779 are possible 1832 01:09:19,198 --> 01:09:23,338 that there are multiple dimensions 1833 01:09:21,779 --> 01:09:26,339 then of course 1834 01:09:23,338 --> 01:09:29,278 why couldn't there be Cryptids 1835 01:09:26,338 --> 01:09:33,600 walking side by side living right 1836 01:09:29,279 --> 01:09:38,160 amongst us and we have no clue that that 1837 01:09:33,600 --> 01:09:39,600 to me is fun it's like I it's just fun I 1838 01:09:38,159 --> 01:09:40,979 know it sounds kind of ridiculous but 1839 01:09:39,600 --> 01:09:43,560 it's fun 1840 01:09:40,979 --> 01:09:45,419 that makes life really interesting and I 1841 01:09:43,560 --> 01:09:47,759 don't need it to make 1842 01:09:45,420 --> 01:09:49,859 life interesting for me to to be happy 1843 01:09:47,759 --> 01:09:51,539 or to be content 1844 01:09:49,859 --> 01:09:54,420 um 1845 01:09:51,539 --> 01:09:57,119 but it's like science right uh reading 1846 01:09:54,420 --> 01:10:00,480 the latest news in science the latest 1847 01:09:57,119 --> 01:10:03,539 Discovery to me that's fun I love it 1848 01:10:00,479 --> 01:10:05,339 so that Nexus where all those worlds 1849 01:10:03,539 --> 01:10:08,100 meet 1850 01:10:05,340 --> 01:10:09,079 is probably the most exciting thing 1851 01:10:08,100 --> 01:10:12,239 about 1852 01:10:09,079 --> 01:10:14,519 cryptozoology and ufology there's too 1853 01:10:12,238 --> 01:10:15,539 many uh eyewitnesses and it's you know 1854 01:10:14,520 --> 01:10:19,679 they're hard to take a picture of 1855 01:10:15,539 --> 01:10:20,819 because they're you know shy of people 1856 01:10:19,679 --> 01:10:23,279 I was just watching something this 1857 01:10:20,819 --> 01:10:25,679 morning and where they took a print of a 1858 01:10:23,279 --> 01:10:27,599 well we got a baby Bigfoot and like pour 1859 01:10:25,679 --> 01:10:29,520 the mold and everything 1860 01:10:27,600 --> 01:10:32,400 and they're talking about how the toes 1861 01:10:29,520 --> 01:10:33,600 were spread out different than our toes 1862 01:10:32,399 --> 01:10:35,639 are 1863 01:10:33,600 --> 01:10:37,260 pushed in because we wear shoes all the 1864 01:10:35,640 --> 01:10:39,420 time and they're like this is this is 1865 01:10:37,260 --> 01:10:42,300 the evidence of that and it's pretty 1866 01:10:39,420 --> 01:10:46,920 interesting but ultimately I think that 1867 01:10:42,300 --> 01:10:49,020 both Fields encourage us to say yes take 1868 01:10:46,920 --> 01:10:51,060 a look behind the veil and see what's 1869 01:10:49,020 --> 01:10:51,960 there that's exciting there's a buzz 1870 01:10:51,060 --> 01:10:56,340 there 1871 01:10:51,960 --> 01:11:01,260 and living in that mystery 1872 01:10:56,340 --> 01:11:04,079 um I think gives one a sense of 1873 01:11:01,260 --> 01:11:10,219 connection to something bigger than 1874 01:11:04,079 --> 01:11:10,219 themselves and because these fields are 1875 01:11:10,319 --> 01:11:15,840 for the most part non-dogmatic meaning 1876 01:11:13,219 --> 01:11:17,760 unlike a religion or something right 1877 01:11:15,840 --> 01:11:20,159 there there are not 1878 01:11:17,760 --> 01:11:23,520 a set of rules that someone says You 1879 01:11:20,158 --> 01:11:26,359 must abide by this you must believe this 1880 01:11:23,520 --> 01:11:30,000 you can have that spiritual search 1881 01:11:26,359 --> 01:11:31,859 through these Mysteries without anybody 1882 01:11:30,000 --> 01:11:33,719 saying 1883 01:11:31,859 --> 01:11:36,899 um your 1884 01:11:33,719 --> 01:11:39,000 spiritual belief or your 1885 01:11:36,899 --> 01:11:41,119 um sense of wonder 1886 01:11:39,000 --> 01:11:46,560 or your curiosity 1887 01:11:41,119 --> 01:11:50,340 is inherently evil or wrong or bad I 1888 01:11:46,560 --> 01:11:52,140 find it really freeing and um 1889 01:11:50,340 --> 01:11:54,300 you know even if we find out something 1890 01:11:52,140 --> 01:11:56,400 is not true 1891 01:11:54,300 --> 01:11:58,560 that's okay I'm glad that we went on 1892 01:11:56,399 --> 01:12:01,139 this journey together I'm glad to be a 1893 01:11:58,560 --> 01:12:03,239 part of the community and the people out 1894 01:12:01,140 --> 01:12:05,880 there who do this 1895 01:12:03,238 --> 01:12:07,139 um you know it's for me ultimately it's 1896 01:12:05,880 --> 01:12:11,100 all about 1897 01:12:07,140 --> 01:12:12,780 peace and love and harmony and 1898 01:12:11,100 --> 01:12:14,460 um compassion and empathy and caring 1899 01:12:12,779 --> 01:12:19,139 about each other 1900 01:12:14,460 --> 01:12:22,800 and the Paranormal world is a playground 1901 01:12:19,140 --> 01:12:26,940 that says you don't have to have all 1902 01:12:22,800 --> 01:12:30,060 these boundaries that institutions or 1903 01:12:26,939 --> 01:12:32,698 governments or your local culture or 1904 01:12:30,060 --> 01:12:34,739 societies are history has said that you 1905 01:12:32,698 --> 01:12:35,399 have to abide by 1906 01:12:34,738 --> 01:12:37,379 um 1907 01:12:35,399 --> 01:12:41,039 it's like in The Big Lebowski when the 1908 01:12:37,380 --> 01:12:44,219 when the booth dude says the Dude abides 1909 01:12:41,039 --> 01:12:47,219 he's not abiding by the rule of society 1910 01:12:44,219 --> 01:12:51,899 right he's abiding 1911 01:12:47,219 --> 01:12:56,039 by something bigger and it means not 1912 01:12:51,899 --> 01:12:57,059 taking everything so damn seriously all 1913 01:12:56,039 --> 01:13:00,000 the time 1914 01:12:57,060 --> 01:13:04,080 that sometimes you've just gotta let go 1915 01:13:00,000 --> 01:13:05,939 go with the flow and enjoy and um for me 1916 01:13:04,079 --> 01:13:09,600 that's what the Paranormal is it's 1917 01:13:05,939 --> 01:13:11,759 really just letting go and enjoying what 1918 01:13:09,600 --> 01:13:13,679 discoveries or stories I might find 1919 01:13:11,760 --> 01:13:15,780 along the way gosh I would think there 1920 01:13:13,679 --> 01:13:17,640 it's it's always been around it goes 1921 01:13:15,779 --> 01:13:19,679 back to the uh there's a fascinating 1922 01:13:17,640 --> 01:13:22,500 thing with the Cherokee Indians and that 1923 01:13:19,679 --> 01:13:24,899 they would uh put like grains or 1924 01:13:22,500 --> 01:13:26,760 something at the edge of their camp and 1925 01:13:24,899 --> 01:13:28,198 the to feed them and they would come up 1926 01:13:26,760 --> 01:13:30,539 and take them and 1927 01:13:28,198 --> 01:13:32,099 and go back into the woods and it was 1928 01:13:30,539 --> 01:13:34,439 like their peace offering and they would 1929 01:13:32,100 --> 01:13:37,199 protect them and that's there's no I 1930 01:13:34,439 --> 01:13:39,299 mean Indian there's no reason to doubt 1931 01:13:37,198 --> 01:13:41,399 any of that you know and they probably 1932 01:13:39,300 --> 01:13:43,679 have are more 1933 01:13:41,399 --> 01:13:45,599 able to see um because they're less 1934 01:13:43,679 --> 01:13:47,520 fearful of them than the standard him 1935 01:13:45,600 --> 01:13:48,380 especially like a Bigfoot hunter get out 1936 01:13:47,520 --> 01:13:51,780 of here 1937 01:13:48,380 --> 01:13:53,340 I mean you know you know you good luck 1938 01:13:51,779 --> 01:13:55,859 seeing one or you could bring in your 1939 01:13:53,340 --> 01:13:57,779 gun too they're like no way I can smell 1940 01:13:55,859 --> 01:13:59,219 the gunfire I'm out of here I'm not 1941 01:13:57,779 --> 01:14:02,099 gonna get shot 1942 01:13:59,219 --> 01:14:03,960 but I it's I don't know yeah and why 1943 01:14:02,100 --> 01:14:06,239 don't why haven't maybe there has been 1944 01:14:03,960 --> 01:14:07,800 one in captive 1945 01:14:06,238 --> 01:14:09,539 there's no reason to think there 1946 01:14:07,800 --> 01:14:11,579 wouldn't be but I wouldn't think he'd be 1947 01:14:09,539 --> 01:14:12,840 that happy about it 1948 01:14:11,579 --> 01:14:15,479 and I don't know is there a female 1949 01:14:12,840 --> 01:14:17,900 there's got to be female Bigfoot too 1950 01:14:15,479 --> 01:14:17,899 right 1951 01:14:18,060 --> 01:14:21,840 so the UFO world's a much bigger 1952 01:14:20,039 --> 01:14:24,479 Paradigm and you know if you think about 1953 01:14:21,840 --> 01:14:26,340 it a UFO sighting can occur anywhere in 1954 01:14:24,479 --> 01:14:28,439 the world and there's a lot more 1955 01:14:26,340 --> 01:14:30,239 interesting people report those a lot 1956 01:14:28,439 --> 01:14:31,678 more versus the Bigfoot phenomena you 1957 01:14:30,238 --> 01:14:35,459 have to have very specific geographical 1958 01:14:31,679 --> 01:14:37,500 area for SPC to live 1959 01:14:35,460 --> 01:14:38,460 so I think from that standpoint you're 1960 01:14:37,500 --> 01:14:39,960 naturally going to have a lot more 1961 01:14:38,460 --> 01:14:42,359 interest and a lot of more people 1962 01:14:39,960 --> 01:14:43,739 talking about UFOs and aliens and 1963 01:14:42,359 --> 01:14:45,420 and I think people are naturally more 1964 01:14:43,738 --> 01:14:48,479 interested in the whole UFO thing 1965 01:14:45,420 --> 01:14:50,579 because it's about it's about the future 1966 01:14:48,479 --> 01:14:52,198 it's about going out in space and what's 1967 01:14:50,579 --> 01:14:53,939 out there in a bigger picture you know 1968 01:14:52,198 --> 01:14:55,738 Bigfoot doesn't seem quite of his big 1969 01:14:53,939 --> 01:14:57,539 story from that standpoint so I think 1970 01:14:55,738 --> 01:14:58,619 there's much less interest than Bigfoot 1971 01:14:57,539 --> 01:14:59,939 than there is you know and you have 1972 01:14:58,619 --> 01:15:01,920 fallen aliens 1973 01:14:59,939 --> 01:15:04,139 they are a community 1974 01:15:01,920 --> 01:15:06,359 they may be a diverse Community there 1975 01:15:04,140 --> 01:15:08,239 may be some let's not kid ourselves that 1976 01:15:06,359 --> 01:15:11,579 there aren't some fairly crazy people 1977 01:15:08,238 --> 01:15:14,158 involved in cryptozoology and in ufology 1978 01:15:11,579 --> 01:15:17,158 let's not kid ourselves that there 1979 01:15:14,158 --> 01:15:18,779 aren't some charlatans and fraudsters in 1980 01:15:17,158 --> 01:15:20,460 in both these communities but 1981 01:15:18,779 --> 01:15:22,920 essentially most of the people are 1982 01:15:20,460 --> 01:15:26,279 involved whether they're Witnesses or 1983 01:15:22,920 --> 01:15:31,260 whether they're researchers are 1984 01:15:26,279 --> 01:15:33,658 sincere dedicated individuals who are 1985 01:15:31,260 --> 01:15:36,360 intrigued by a mystery and want to push 1986 01:15:33,658 --> 01:15:40,019 the boundaries of human knowledge and 1987 01:15:36,359 --> 01:15:42,479 rightly so and that's what being human 1988 01:15:40,020 --> 01:15:44,760 and being intelligent should be about 1989 01:15:42,479 --> 01:15:47,059 pushing those boundaries asking those 1990 01:15:44,760 --> 01:15:50,940 questions trying to expand 1991 01:15:47,060 --> 01:15:53,940 the the sum of all human knowledge and 1992 01:15:50,939 --> 01:15:56,460 if that takes us into some difficult 1993 01:15:53,939 --> 01:15:58,799 uncomfortable territories well you know 1994 01:15:56,460 --> 01:16:00,960 that's how we maybe make big advances 1995 01:15:58,800 --> 01:16:02,579 through adversity you know investigating 1996 01:16:00,960 --> 01:16:05,579 the Paranormal 1997 01:16:02,579 --> 01:16:08,158 it's like the light on the hill that 1998 01:16:05,579 --> 01:16:11,279 you're sort of looking out to 1999 01:16:08,158 --> 01:16:13,619 um it's not necessarily that that light 2000 01:16:11,279 --> 01:16:15,719 is the answer although maybe you will 2001 01:16:13,619 --> 01:16:17,760 find the answer to the big questions and 2002 01:16:15,719 --> 01:16:21,359 I love asking the big questions 2003 01:16:17,760 --> 01:16:23,640 but it's the journey and so going 2004 01:16:21,359 --> 01:16:26,039 towards the light meaning 2005 01:16:23,640 --> 01:16:28,860 what is out there what is in the 2006 01:16:26,039 --> 01:16:30,840 distance what's behind the veil that we 2007 01:16:28,859 --> 01:16:33,119 don't quite see 2008 01:16:30,840 --> 01:16:34,860 but we if we keep going that way we'll 2009 01:16:33,119 --> 01:16:38,099 get answers along the way 2010 01:16:34,859 --> 01:16:39,719 that's exciting because hopefully we do 2011 01:16:38,100 --> 01:16:41,760 learn about ourselves and I think I 2012 01:16:39,719 --> 01:16:45,060 think we do I think we become more 2013 01:16:41,760 --> 01:16:47,520 accepting and loving and tolerant people 2014 01:16:45,060 --> 01:16:51,120 and forget tolerance accepting people 2015 01:16:47,520 --> 01:16:52,500 because we're entering this weird world 2016 01:16:51,119 --> 01:16:55,800 where 2017 01:16:52,500 --> 01:16:57,119 anything seems to be possible and I 2018 01:16:55,800 --> 01:16:59,760 think that if you're going in with that 2019 01:16:57,119 --> 01:17:01,319 mindset then 2020 01:16:59,760 --> 01:17:03,840 for the most part there are exceptions 2021 01:17:01,319 --> 01:17:07,439 to this rule your your brain is more 2022 01:17:03,840 --> 01:17:10,440 elastic you know you're able to adapt to 2023 01:17:07,439 --> 01:17:13,738 new ideas to keep an open mind and that 2024 01:17:10,439 --> 01:17:17,599 is is the core of the euphological and 2025 01:17:13,738 --> 01:17:17,599 cryptological uh community 2026 01:17:20,158 --> 01:17:23,158 foreign 2027 01:17:33,119 --> 01:17:37,918 [Music] 2028 01:17:40,579 --> 01:17:48,109 [Music] 2029 01:17:49,380 --> 01:17:52,380 foreign 149006

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