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foreign
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would be what would the general populace
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be more skeptical of Bigfoot or
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aliens
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definitely I mean Bigfoot no question
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but I'm definitely more tailored to be
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fascinated by ufology
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there is something that those people are
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drawn to
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I love exploring that plane it's color
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it's
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Joy
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it's mystery and living in that mystery
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I really think that it's okay that
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people go out in search of these things
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and want to know more about life Beyond
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Where We Are
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there's something there
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I really think people who go in search
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of Bigfoot and I think people who go in
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search of aliens I think they're very
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similar and and here's why
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a lot of people who studied and there
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are people who take just simply a
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scholarly academic approach to the study
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of the unknown and that's what science
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is all about
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you have a question that you don't know
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the answer to you have a hypothesis you
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test that hypothesis with evidence and
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if your hypothesis proves to be untrue
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you come back and you re-hypothesize it
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was Harry and the Hendersons the movie
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Harry and the Hendersons that that
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really sparked my interest in Bigfoot
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and similarly to ET which sparked my
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interest in extraterrestrials right
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there was this infusion of Love of
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tenderness of kindness in both of those
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films
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and so from the earliest age my interest
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in anything paranormal extraterrestrial
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and origin
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was grounded in this this idea that
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perhaps there are species out there
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yet undiscovered or proven
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to exist in the mainstream
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that are not caged and restricted
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by the same kind of shortcomings that
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human beings have
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the biggest difference between
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cryptozoology and ufology whether it's
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doing research speaking at conferences
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lectures TVs shows things like that the
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biggest difference is that a lot of UFO
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research is sort of historical going
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through files
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speaking with Witnesses cryptozoology
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because it's the study of unknown
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animals there's a great deal of research
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done out in the field in forests in
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woods in Lakes mountains so
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cryptozoology lends it more to
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Expeditions and being on the road
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whereas ufology is scrutinizing cases
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you know and documents and files so one
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is very much Outdoors another one is
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pouring over material that kind of thing
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so there's definitely a bit of a
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difference I think between the UFO and
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uh Bigfoot Community Bigfoot Community
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tell them to be a little more grounded a
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lot of these guys are just guys that
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live out in the woods
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you know they're pretty down to earth
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and then other animals and other species
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you know they just
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either I've had I've seen something
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unusual they can't explain you know they
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don't think of it in terms of I think so
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much in terms of like anthropology or
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biology a lot of these guys because
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these guys some of these guys are
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hunters or they're just guys that live
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on you know in the woods in there
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pretty regular people
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it doesn't attract
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as many crazy people to or let's say
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delusional to be honest you know as the
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UFO field does
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and it's not as
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there's less politics I think especially
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today the UFO field is very politically
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motivated you know everything it's it's
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been hijacked a little bit by
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a certain group of people that were you
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at the UFOs are coming second behind
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their worship of certain politicians or
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you know it's it gets tied up with like
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the Q Anon phenomena which I personally
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think is utterly ridiculous you know so
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there's a lot more conspiracy theory out
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there that I think are kind of going off
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the deep end and it attracts a lot of
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those guys
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yeah it's interesting because there is
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not much cultural crossover between the
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alien fans the ancient alien fans the
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conspiracy theorists about governments
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and and stuff like that the Bigfoot
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people the ghost people and there really
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should because basically we're all the
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same in the sense if you put us all
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together you'd have a really really
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massive block of of Voters and political
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activists because we're all people that
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recognize in one way or another that the
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world that we're presented on TV is not
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reality that there is a much deeper
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maybe darker but certainly more
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interesting reality that we exist in
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than what we're we're sold every day
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there's a lot more things going on than
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just who's going to win the Super Bowl
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the Chiefs by the way
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um you know there's more stuff going on
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than that and the you know the
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impeachment for us that's going on right
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now it's all it's all for show and it's
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all to keep us distracted from the
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ghosts and the bigfoots and the things
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that don't fit and the aliens and the
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Ancient Aliens is to keep us from really
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focused seen on the truth because if we
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did focus on that we might get
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distracted and not really think it was
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that important to go to work tomorrow
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and that's what keeps the engine of
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civilization running we had a
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fascinating conversation with Mike Barra
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on the way up the mountain
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he was taught this is before this whole
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virus thing came out and he started he
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was saying that yeah I got an Insider
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see a guy that has said that we have a
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virus that targets certain
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ethnic groups and we're and the whole
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everybody in the truck were just like
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what are you talking about and it's
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right as the whole thing was kind of
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Breaking Free but it doesn't look like
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that was the you know it just started in
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China or whatever but it was that's you
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know you get all kinds of Insider info
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from these guys and then when they say
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they got a contact it's hard not you
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I really think that it's okay that
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people go out in search of these things
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and want to know more about space and
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want to know more about life beyond
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where we are we have predilections to
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violence
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to disorder
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Vengeance anger hatred all these things
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and and when I saw those movies when I
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was a child
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I thought what if there really is a
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species out there that was kind
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and compassionate and they were not a
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species of War or conflict there are
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scientific species right like ET the
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Hendersons that maybe all these settings
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of Bigfoots which
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keep their distance for the most part
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Sasquatch or Yeti
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that they're intelligent enough to stay
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away from us because maybe they don't
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want to get involved with our conflicts
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and they can see how aggressive we can
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be not that we always are
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um but we have people out there that are
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with guns hunting for bigfoot which I
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just think is absolutely absurd and I
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highly highly condemn it I'm gonna
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really just ticks me off that people do
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um because there's just not enough good
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evidence
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that I've seen that Bigfoot or Sasquatch
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is
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aggressive and violent towards human
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beings
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um they may be at times confrontational
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in that they approach and come close to
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us to eyewitnesses
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but that does not justify
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looking for a trophy just to prove that
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some species exists because again for me
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it's something more meta it's bigger the
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the search for strange creatures or
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extraterrestrials visiting here whatever
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you're searching for for me it all means
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something much bigger than ourselves
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for me that's one of the main reasons
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why I kind of like cryptozoology in many
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ways more than ufology because I enjoy
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the sort of road trip Expedition aspect
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of it hitting the road and potentially
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you know staking out at a lake where
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something's been seen for seven days you
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know for me that's more exciting than
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just pouring over something that's been
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released on the freedom information act
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from 50 years ago which is really still
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core material but I kind of like that
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sort of hitting the road angle more than
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anything else yeah
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personally I think both
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UFOs and Bitcoin are equally believable
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but for different reasons I think
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because the UFO phenomena we have so
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much
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evidence now I don't want to say proof
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because we don't have the Smoking Gun
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you know but obviously recently we've
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seen how various governments including
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ours have admitted to the fact that
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there are flying objects out there they
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can't explain we have a paper trail you
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know that for example John Greenwald at
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The Black Vault has been able to dig up
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that talk about UFOs from official
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capacity in the US government other you
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know governments around the world have
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admitted to the fact that yeah these
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things fly around we have a plethora of
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footage at this point I mean granted a
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lot of it's fake but a plethora of good
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footage pictures
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accounts you know throughout the entire
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world so there's a lot there
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you know with Bigfoot we have much less
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I think and but on the other hand
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um 10 years ago I would say UFOs are
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more believable in Bigfoot but since
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we've all all that we know now about
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the fossil record and much further about
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going back to genetics have proven that
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something like Bigfoot only could exist
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but did exist you know a lot a bunch of
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times the last few million years so if
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it was possible then
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certainly there's no reason for it not
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to be possible now the only question is
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whether it could stay hidden in the
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modern world definitely I mean Bigfoot
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no question it's out there but I'm
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definitely more
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um tailored to be fascinated by ufology
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and and the technology
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do I have no problem whatsoever with a
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person who wants to know or go out and
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investigate whether or not there's a
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life beyond our solar system I don't
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know how you do that
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I have through my involvement with
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UFO research for the government and now
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I suppose as as somebody who writes and
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broadcasts on this I interact with the
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UFO Community I have a good knowledge I
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suppose of of ufology for want of a
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better word I know that there are other
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Mysteries are the fields of study so we
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have for example all sorts of anomalous
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creatures seen all around the the world
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monsters and and
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um I suppose most famously Bigfoot
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say and you have the whole
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cryptozoological community
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I suspect there are similarities
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differences between those communities
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well I've been interested in yeah I
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guess a lot of different things but to
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see the intertwining of the ufology
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ufology we have that subject but when
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you start going down that road and you
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start opening that that box it's
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literally Pandora's Box because you will
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discover as I have
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what is reality what are we doing here
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what why what what are what is a human
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being what is the purpose of our
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existence you know all of these big big
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questions
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you ask and you go deeper and you go
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deeper and you may find some answers you
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may find you know and it's very
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individualized but uh it's all
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interconnected so ghosts you know you
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mentioned Bigfoot earlier you know the
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indigenous teachings cultures but other
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religious belief systems it's all
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connected and it's all intertwined to
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the bigger greater story of what is it
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to be human so I think the positive and
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negative are two sides of the same coin
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for both cryptozoology and ufology
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so again the seeking I think is a a sort
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of mystical Quest so Ghost Hunters I'm
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cryptozoologists
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ufologists whatever it is
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they are seeking something that is
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bigger
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than what conventional thinking tells us
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our reality is beyond our five senses
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and science has teased this right that
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the world is so much bigger
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the universe is so much more magical and
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diverse than we may have imagined but it
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seems to me that our imagination often
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drives
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the search for answers we have to sort
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of imagine what could be before we can
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even seek it and so the idea that we can
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imagine that there might be these
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Elementals or Spirits or ghosts or
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chupacabras or Bigfoot
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that there might be extraterrestrials
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visiting our Earth from another planet
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that fills us with
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a wonder that I think just sort of
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feeds the spirit of living that it makes
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life exciting and
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in the search for that
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I think there is something almost
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spiritual about it and I think that is a
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very positive thing now some people
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might
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like they use other things fill the void
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um but I think most people it's not a
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void that they're filling
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it's just living the Journey of life and
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you know going down the enigmatic Road
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of Investigation into the unknown is
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something that
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broadens the mind
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in some sense both communities would
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regard themselves as somewhat Fringe and
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are regarded as somewhat Fringe and
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maybe eccentric by for example the
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mainstream scientific community
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a lot of these people might regard
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themselves as
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Outsiders Crusaders for the truth in a
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situation where maybe they feel the deck
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is stacked against them maybe from
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government media scientific Community
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whoever it might be the negative is that
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yes sometimes people can get obsessed
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and any kind of obsession is is
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um you know damaging and uh
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unfortunately I think sometimes there
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are
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researchers or individuals
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who need more
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out of life that then
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what an interest in ufology or
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cryptozoology can provide
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and maybe they begin to
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um
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fill their investigations with hyperbole
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so that they can get more attention
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maybe they start to take an experience
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and a
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embellish it too far too much and it's
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attention that they need it does happen
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so there there is that negative side to
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it
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and sometimes yeah just like a religion
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or a philosophy of any kind they might
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be using that to fill some kind of void
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in their soul and their heart and their
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psyche
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I'm sure there are some differences
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between the communities but there are
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some commonalities
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too and and I think that's very
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interesting it's whatever you believe
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about UFOs about Bigfoot I think
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actually it would be quite interesting
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almost sociologically
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to look at those communities so not
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looking so much at UFOs or at Bigfoot
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but the people that study them and and
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research them and maybe try to go out I
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mean I don't know what the difference is
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for example between people that go out
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on a sky watch with binoculars and
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infrared equipment night vision goggles
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and say the people that hunt Bigfoot and
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I I suspect that one one common thread
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is is Extreme dedication
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and these things aren't easy they you
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probably get ridiculed and disbelieved
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and you probably spend a lot of cold wet
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nights
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um when it might be easier to
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um drink some beer and watch the game so
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it's an interesting question about these
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different communities and as I say I'm
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sure there are there are some things
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that bind them together and other things
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that set them apart
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by and large most people especially in
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the Paranormal Community I love the
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people in the Paranormal Community
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um you know it's just just part of my
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tribe as it were and they're good people
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and we are very supportive of each other
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and I really appreciate that and there's
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a lot of positive thinking
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so I was into the whole UF audience
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thing prior to being into Bigfoot uh my
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introduction uh was through a French
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comic book on Aliens but inside they had
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like a story from Brazil about a little
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hairy monster as they were supposedly
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aliens so when I saw another book on the
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yeti I kind of recognized that model you
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know from the earlier uh UFO book so
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that got me interested into the yeti I'm
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like oh it's kind of like you know this
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uh UFO story in Brazil then obviously
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that went on to its own path but
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it even five years ago a UFO person oh
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those Bigfoot people they're stuck up
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they don't know they're they're you know
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they're tracking something
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you know we don't really care about them
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and then the Bigfoot people would be
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like no those guys are weird you know I
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spend my weekends out looking for a big
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hairy bipedal ape or something but those
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those UFO people are weird
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and because a lot of Bigfoot researchers
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and understandably saw a very scientific
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very hard fact we want Footprints we
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want photographs we want hair samples we
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want DNA
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we want sounds we want actual tangible
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evidence and UFO being a lot of
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sightings and encounters and hearsay
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having even less physical evidence than
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UFO World there was always a departure
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when I got invited to speak at upars La
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which is the LA chapter of mufon upar's
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universal paranormal
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um Association and then mufa and Orange
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County very nice people it was really
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refreshing because I'm so used to
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talking to people unless it's a
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paranormal podcast if I just talk to
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regular people who have an interest in
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it you spend the whole conversation
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about Bigfoot trying to convince them it
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exists
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and when you go talk to a group of 30 40
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50 60 people who study different alien
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races and UFOs and Consciousness and
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different astral planes and metaphysics
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and all this different kind of stuff and
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I'm like yeah my name's Matt I research
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bigfoots they're all like yeah and
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there's a big hairy North American
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creature exists they're like yeah and
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it's no big deal to them I mean when
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you're talking about
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parallel dimensions and wormholes and
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Ancient Aliens and civilizations and the
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real kind of outdoor stuff they talk
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about to them an Undiscovered species or
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an ape is just like or a species of
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human they're just kind of like yeah
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whatever and they were very interested
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and very welcoming and I heard some
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weird stories from some of the people
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who came up during the intermediate hi
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I'm a level three Shaman and I live in
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the woods here and I want to let you
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know that bigfoots Are Spiritual
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creatures and I saw one one day and I
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could see it perfectly clear but my
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boyfriend couldn't see it and it spoke
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to me in a dream later that night and
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I'm just like hi and I had other people
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come up to me and they're like uh yeah
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we're actually Satan worshipers and we
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worship demons and they're all gothened
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out and everything like that and I'm
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just like hi I'm Matt smiling politely
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you know and um they're telling me that
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oh yeah Bigfoot has you know some of the
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dark ones seed in it and they're
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genetically modified and all this and
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um the great evil one showed me this in
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a dream and I'm like
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yep it's nice to meet all you folks you
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know I mean give them listen to these
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people listen to them hear what they
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have to say you know whether you throw
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it out personally is up to you but it's
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certainly fascinating certainly
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entertaining at the very least
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Bigfoot in my opinion is the Nephilim
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the Nephilim are the byproduct The
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Offspring of the Fallen Angelic hosts
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and the human women of Earth creating a
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hybrid known as the Nephilim it's
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biblical it's right in there Genesis 6.
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it goes back in the seat of a dragon
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will be at War at enmity with the seed
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of the woman which sets up the rest of
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the biblical prophetic narrative that's
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not taught in most seminaries most
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Christians have no idea what that even
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is but it's there and it's coming into
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light and I'm one of the people my my
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mentor Chuck Missler and Dr ID Thomas I
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stand on their shoulders they stand on
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GH pember's shoulders so it's been there
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people have talked about it but the
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mainstream still goes whoa whoa that's
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too woo-woo for us so again if this is
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all Supernatural in my opinion the whole
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UFO phenomenon in my opinion is a
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supernatural occurrence not a uh an
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extraterrestrial one interdimensional
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one
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I don't necessarily have to believe
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everything I hear
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and obviously I don't just swallow and
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believe whatever evidence is
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you know placed in front of me
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but it's the conversation that I enjoy
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because what it says is that
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we're not being dogmatic
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or keeping the door open or asking
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questions even for the the strict
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almost dogmatic ufologists
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or Bigfoot researchers who say no
556
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Bigfoot is a physical being only he's a
557
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ape family descendant living amongst us
558
00:22:40,079 --> 00:22:45,298
secretly whereas others would say it's
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an interdimensional being
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either way
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they're they're searching for something
562
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and they're keeping that door open a
563
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little bit and I really do appreciate
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that one of the things that I encounter
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on my YouTube channel and in my research
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and shows that I've been on is just
567
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because I talk about a theory doesn't
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necessarily mean that that's what I
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think is going on
570
00:23:03,779 --> 00:23:07,379
you know just I talk about a Bigfoot UFO
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connection or a paranormal connection
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and Matt thinks they're they're
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paranormal or they think that they're
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the Nephilim or he thinks there's
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something biblical or they think they're
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that thinks they're in Alien well well I
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didn't say that I feel like any good
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00:23:18,500 --> 00:23:22,859
researcher or teacher or somebody
579
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exploring a subject you have to look at
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00:23:22,859 --> 00:23:27,058
these things without that necessarily
581
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being what your opinion is so I got to
582
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put that caveat out there right away
583
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I'm I think I'm probably more passionate
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about Bigfoot and I'm about UFOs because
585
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well first of all I have a BS in
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anthropology so you know it
587
00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:43,979
it's something that I can justify going
588
00:23:42,419 --> 00:23:45,419
to school for five years you know in one
589
00:23:43,980 --> 00:23:47,579
sense but for whatever reason that's
590
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captured my imagination a lot more than
591
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maybe UFOs
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I mean I'm passionate about UFOs just as
593
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well
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but I'm a little disillusioned by the
595
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everything that's went on in the UFO
596
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field you know and
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if it's a mess if I'm gonna be quite
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honest and
599
00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:05,159
there's a lot of people don't have the
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best interest of the field in mind and
601
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that's you know that's really
602
00:24:05,940 --> 00:24:09,179
frustrating
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00:24:07,500 --> 00:24:11,220
Bigfoot's it's a little bit smaller
604
00:24:09,179 --> 00:24:13,080
community and don't get me wrong a lot
605
00:24:11,220 --> 00:24:14,339
of people I don't personally like
606
00:24:13,079 --> 00:24:17,099
but
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it it's not as tainted you know as the
608
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UFO field today I think and
609
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I think there's a bigger chance for us
610
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to find proof of Bigfoot in the next
611
00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:26,940
year
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than there is of us you know funneling
613
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you know declaring you know aliens or
614
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whatever
615
00:24:29,460 --> 00:24:32,400
you know Chris you have a phenomena is
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real
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00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:36,120
term UFO it's really it encompasses a
618
00:24:34,919 --> 00:24:37,320
lot of modalities it's not we're not
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00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:39,239
just talking about aliens talking about
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secret aircrafts Maybe
621
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whatever right and it becomes there's so
622
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many factors involved and it factors in
623
00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:47,940
so much into the political world right
624
00:24:46,259 --> 00:24:50,940
because we're you're talking about a new
625
00:24:47,940 --> 00:24:52,860
type of energy probably that's that's
626
00:24:50,940 --> 00:24:55,200
very different what we have today
627
00:24:52,859 --> 00:24:58,259
and that affects everything
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00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:59,519
in the world it affects oil it affects
629
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government I mean imagine a US
630
00:24:59,519 --> 00:25:02,879
Government admitting tomorrow that
631
00:25:01,140 --> 00:25:04,799
aliens UFOs are real and they've been
632
00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:06,600
violating our airspace
633
00:25:04,798 --> 00:25:08,038
for generations and there's nothing we
634
00:25:06,599 --> 00:25:10,619
can do about it
635
00:25:08,038 --> 00:25:12,179
I mean even today which you know it's
636
00:25:10,619 --> 00:25:14,099
things a little chaotic with the US
637
00:25:12,179 --> 00:25:15,659
government but even that admittance is
638
00:25:14,099 --> 00:25:17,699
like it's Unthinkable right how do you
639
00:25:15,659 --> 00:25:19,320
admit something like that
640
00:25:17,700 --> 00:25:22,080
and I think that's part of the problem
641
00:25:19,319 --> 00:25:23,819
why we're not getting UFO disclosure
642
00:25:22,079 --> 00:25:26,879
with Bigfoot you know let's say someone
643
00:25:23,819 --> 00:25:28,379
discovers Bigfoot and now a greater
644
00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:30,179
creationist maybe up at Arms you know
645
00:25:28,380 --> 00:25:31,799
but ultimately everyone's going to get
646
00:25:30,179 --> 00:25:33,720
over it a week later
647
00:25:31,798 --> 00:25:35,879
oh look we found another species of man
648
00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:38,159
that's alive today that'll be huge right
649
00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:40,919
or we found a new type of ape that's
650
00:25:38,159 --> 00:25:42,778
bipedal so maybe the ape thing will be
651
00:25:40,919 --> 00:25:45,299
popular for a week and no one will care
652
00:25:42,778 --> 00:25:46,740
you know that or obviously if we found
653
00:25:45,298 --> 00:25:49,079
another species of human that's going to
654
00:25:46,740 --> 00:25:50,579
change things dramatically but look at
655
00:25:49,079 --> 00:25:51,839
the world today as really anybody's
656
00:25:50,579 --> 00:25:52,740
going to be up Anonymous about it a
657
00:25:51,839 --> 00:25:54,959
month later
658
00:25:52,740 --> 00:25:57,279
sadly probably not you know
659
00:25:54,960 --> 00:26:01,440
and people go back to their phones or
660
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I suppose if the you know humans are
662
00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:07,679
being abducted I wouldn't see any reason
663
00:26:05,759 --> 00:26:10,440
they wouldn't abduct a Bigfoot too or
664
00:26:07,679 --> 00:26:12,600
and the fact in the last few years you
665
00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:14,100
have seen a lot more crossover Ron
666
00:26:12,599 --> 00:26:16,079
Moorhead a lot of bigger Bigfoot
667
00:26:14,099 --> 00:26:17,639
researchers of giving more talks at UFO
668
00:26:16,079 --> 00:26:19,798
conferences and they're starting to show
669
00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:21,059
up more and you're starting to see a lot
670
00:26:19,798 --> 00:26:23,278
more crossover because I think both
671
00:26:21,058 --> 00:26:25,798
communities are kind of realizing
672
00:26:23,278 --> 00:26:28,798
this isn't just some physical creature
673
00:26:25,798 --> 00:26:30,900
in a craft some species visiting us from
674
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another planet there's more to it than
675
00:26:30,900 --> 00:26:33,900
that these stars are too far away for
676
00:26:32,519 --> 00:26:35,460
them to even travel at the speed of
677
00:26:33,900 --> 00:26:37,140
light and get here there's more to
678
00:26:35,460 --> 00:26:39,120
aliens than just them being Little Green
679
00:26:37,140 --> 00:26:40,559
Men from another planet and then people
680
00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:42,839
look at Bigfoot and there's more to
681
00:26:40,558 --> 00:26:46,019
these creatures than just being a big
682
00:26:42,839 --> 00:26:47,879
hairy human ape hybrid thing and so
683
00:26:46,019 --> 00:26:49,500
there's a lot of crossover
684
00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:52,200
who's to say Bigfoot's not a
685
00:26:49,500 --> 00:26:55,619
shape-shifter that you know one second
686
00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:57,120
he's uh you know a bear-like creature in
687
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the next second he's like an old Indian
688
00:26:57,119 --> 00:27:00,979
Chief and you know oh hey what's up I
689
00:26:59,220 --> 00:27:02,880
yeah who knows anything's possible
690
00:27:00,980 --> 00:27:04,679
coincidentally that's kind of where my
691
00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:06,059
research went is eventually and a lot of
692
00:27:04,679 --> 00:27:08,100
people encountered this in the Bigfoot
693
00:27:06,058 --> 00:27:09,538
world is you've read all the
694
00:27:08,099 --> 00:27:11,339
conventional stuff you've been out in
695
00:27:09,538 --> 00:27:13,440
the woods and had probably more than
696
00:27:11,339 --> 00:27:15,418
likely very very limited success on your
697
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:17,220
own researching Bigfoot in the fields
698
00:27:15,419 --> 00:27:18,600
you spend all day long camouflaged out
699
00:27:17,220 --> 00:27:19,919
with your comfort set and your face
700
00:27:18,599 --> 00:27:21,719
painted crawling through the woods
701
00:27:19,919 --> 00:27:23,640
watching every step setting up cameras
702
00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:25,019
you go back to the car and you stop to
703
00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:26,640
take a whiz on a tree and that's when
704
00:27:25,019 --> 00:27:28,859
you hear a tree snap and you hear a hoop
705
00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:30,600
and you're like I'm not ready you know
706
00:27:28,859 --> 00:27:31,918
or as soon as your camera dies you've
707
00:27:30,599 --> 00:27:33,240
been filming all day and you're tired
708
00:27:31,919 --> 00:27:34,980
and you're sitting on the porch and
709
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:36,538
you're gonna have a cocktail that's when
710
00:27:34,980 --> 00:27:37,919
you hear a tree knock over here and you
711
00:27:36,538 --> 00:27:40,140
hear a tree knock over there and you
712
00:27:37,919 --> 00:27:41,580
hear the woods go quiet and you hear a
713
00:27:40,140 --> 00:27:44,038
whoop and you're like
714
00:27:41,579 --> 00:27:45,960
the camera is inside charging with no SD
715
00:27:44,038 --> 00:27:47,099
card in it you're like really really now
716
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:48,240
that's when it happens and you go get
717
00:27:47,099 --> 00:27:50,939
the camera and then nothing happens
718
00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:52,740
that's just the way it happens with all
719
00:27:50,940 --> 00:27:54,659
paranormal the and that's when you start
720
00:27:52,740 --> 00:27:56,759
getting into the Ghost Hunters people
721
00:27:54,659 --> 00:27:58,919
that go to the haunted you know the
722
00:27:56,759 --> 00:28:00,720
abandoned prison and abandoned Saiyan
723
00:27:58,919 --> 00:28:02,520
asylums in the old houses and try to do
724
00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:03,778
their EVPs and talk to the ghosts and
725
00:28:02,519 --> 00:28:04,609
everything because they have a lot of
726
00:28:03,778 --> 00:28:05,940
the same issues
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00:28:04,609 --> 00:28:07,859
[Music]
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00:28:05,940 --> 00:28:09,298
it's like Zen the harder you look for it
729
00:28:07,859 --> 00:28:11,819
the farther away from it you're gonna
730
00:28:09,298 --> 00:28:13,740
get and it's very interesting that the
731
00:28:11,819 --> 00:28:15,599
UFO world the Bigfoot world and the
732
00:28:13,740 --> 00:28:17,460
paranormal ghost world all kind of seem
733
00:28:15,599 --> 00:28:18,959
to have that I don't know that I was
734
00:28:17,460 --> 00:28:20,240
wondering where you how what the link
735
00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:23,278
was between
736
00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:24,480
Bigfoot and you know and the UFO culture
737
00:28:23,278 --> 00:28:26,880
and
738
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:28,079
I'm understanding a little bit more now
739
00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:31,260
for sure
740
00:28:28,079 --> 00:28:34,500
for all of you out there that
741
00:28:31,259 --> 00:28:36,599
that love these topics
742
00:28:34,500 --> 00:28:39,778
thank you thank you for for doing what
743
00:28:36,599 --> 00:28:41,278
you do because I think that on the
744
00:28:39,778 --> 00:28:43,558
periphery
745
00:28:41,278 --> 00:28:45,839
even though maybe you were the ones that
746
00:28:43,558 --> 00:28:49,440
are willing to put our faces out front
747
00:28:45,839 --> 00:28:52,079
and publicly discuss these things
748
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:55,019
on the periphery there are people that
749
00:28:52,079 --> 00:28:56,220
are watching and listening uh maybe
750
00:28:55,019 --> 00:28:58,379
they're not posting on their Facebook
751
00:28:56,220 --> 00:29:00,179
page you know latest article about
752
00:28:58,380 --> 00:29:01,799
cryptozoology but they might see our
753
00:29:00,179 --> 00:29:04,080
posts
754
00:29:01,798 --> 00:29:06,960
um maybe they tune into radio shows and
755
00:29:04,079 --> 00:29:09,298
they never talk to anyone else about it
756
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:10,919
outside of that they don't talk to
757
00:29:09,298 --> 00:29:12,839
people at work or family just kind of
758
00:29:10,919 --> 00:29:14,700
like their own little
759
00:29:12,839 --> 00:29:15,720
um you know mystical world that they
760
00:29:14,700 --> 00:29:18,000
created
761
00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:19,860
the similarities at conferences where
762
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:21,599
you've got big crowds and you know
763
00:29:19,859 --> 00:29:23,879
everybody's listening to the lectures
764
00:29:21,599 --> 00:29:26,359
and so on I mean that's pretty much the
765
00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:30,899
same whether you're talking about UFOs
766
00:29:26,359 --> 00:29:34,139
or if it's cryptozoology what I've found
767
00:29:30,898 --> 00:29:36,959
is that the lectures that are done in
768
00:29:34,140 --> 00:29:40,740
cryptozoology are far more visible in
769
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:44,220
terms of pictures and imagery you find
770
00:29:40,740 --> 00:29:46,679
that lectures and conferences in
771
00:29:44,220 --> 00:29:49,579
relations like bigfoots are far more
772
00:29:46,679 --> 00:29:53,100
picturesque you know location pictures
773
00:29:49,579 --> 00:29:54,720
uh pictures of the witnesses
774
00:29:53,099 --> 00:29:57,058
um you know shots at the local Lake
775
00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:59,880
where something's been seen pictures of
776
00:29:57,058 --> 00:30:03,658
Bigfoot casts so in other words the
777
00:29:59,880 --> 00:30:07,200
imagery for the audience is huge you
778
00:30:03,659 --> 00:30:10,260
tend to find very often with UFO
779
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:13,259
lectures it might be like two shots of
780
00:30:10,259 --> 00:30:15,658
the Roswell crash site somebody presents
781
00:30:13,259 --> 00:30:19,619
a document and there isn't really as
782
00:30:15,659 --> 00:30:21,539
much visual material as there is you
783
00:30:19,619 --> 00:30:23,579
know going out to have I've done a lot
784
00:30:21,538 --> 00:30:25,619
of times like Puerto Rico's El junkie
785
00:30:23,579 --> 00:30:28,199
rainforest looking for the
786
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um chupacabra I've done a lot of
787
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lectures where I've probably got 40
788
00:30:30,179 --> 00:30:35,880
pictures of the places we went to but
789
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you just don't get that with you know
790
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:40,860
lectures on the loudest UFO case there
791
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:44,038
might be a blob in the sky and a picture
792
00:30:40,859 --> 00:30:47,959
of the researcher pointing in the sky so
793
00:30:44,038 --> 00:30:47,960
that's a big difference as well yeah
794
00:30:49,019 --> 00:30:55,859
but I have heard of a lot of UFO and
795
00:30:52,259 --> 00:30:57,538
paranormal type connections and for
796
00:30:55,859 --> 00:30:58,979
every Bigfoot encounter was yeah it
797
00:30:57,538 --> 00:31:01,379
scratched his butt and walked across the
798
00:30:58,980 --> 00:31:03,839
road there are things that it vanished
799
00:31:01,380 --> 00:31:06,179
it cloaked like the Predator I saw a big
800
00:31:03,839 --> 00:31:08,058
flash of light its eyes were glowing red
801
00:31:06,179 --> 00:31:11,399
I don't mean I Shine from a flashlight
802
00:31:08,058 --> 00:31:13,500
its eyes were glowing red at me I felt
803
00:31:11,398 --> 00:31:15,418
an immense feeling of fear of dread like
804
00:31:13,500 --> 00:31:16,980
I was gonna die and it had glowing red
805
00:31:15,419 --> 00:31:18,538
eyes
806
00:31:16,980 --> 00:31:20,099
and when you start getting into things
807
00:31:18,538 --> 00:31:22,558
like that or it cloaked or it
808
00:31:20,099 --> 00:31:24,119
disappeared or
809
00:31:22,558 --> 00:31:25,619
you start getting to make things and
810
00:31:24,119 --> 00:31:27,119
from people who are scared to death and
811
00:31:25,619 --> 00:31:28,259
seem plausible and why would they make
812
00:31:27,119 --> 00:31:29,459
this up
813
00:31:28,259 --> 00:31:31,140
and then you're like well do I throw
814
00:31:29,460 --> 00:31:33,899
this encounter out
815
00:31:31,140 --> 00:31:35,460
no well some researchers do I don't
816
00:31:33,898 --> 00:31:37,079
blame them if you want the hard science
817
00:31:35,460 --> 00:31:38,220
but for me well let's let's listen to
818
00:31:37,079 --> 00:31:40,379
these people
819
00:31:38,220 --> 00:31:41,880
no they're all different I'd say they're
820
00:31:40,380 --> 00:31:43,860
all different everybody comes at it from
821
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their own way we had Linda Moulton Howe
822
00:31:43,859 --> 00:31:47,699
back in the beginning of the the first
823
00:31:45,359 --> 00:31:48,798
show and we had Stanton Friedman one of
824
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his last
825
00:31:48,798 --> 00:31:56,158
speaking engagements before he passed
826
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but um yeah just a great group it's cool
827
00:31:56,159 --> 00:32:00,600
to have the people come through Big Bear
828
00:31:58,259 --> 00:32:02,640
I don't know Bara kind of covers the
829
00:32:00,599 --> 00:32:05,219
whole spectrum and Nick Pope is he's
830
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:07,200
just he's fascinating to to conversate
831
00:32:05,220 --> 00:32:08,880
with
832
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:11,100
there's a lot of parallels in UFO world
833
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:13,080
people it's very post-traumatic stress
834
00:32:11,099 --> 00:32:15,359
Bigfoot isn't supposed to exist monsters
835
00:32:13,079 --> 00:32:17,158
aren't supposed to exist monsters aren't
836
00:32:15,359 --> 00:32:18,898
supposed to be real but then here you're
837
00:32:17,159 --> 00:32:20,640
confronted with a Bigfoot seven eight
838
00:32:18,898 --> 00:32:22,500
nine ten foot tall
839
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:24,538
built like the Incredible Hulk and has a
840
00:32:22,500 --> 00:32:26,278
mean look on its face you're at its
841
00:32:24,538 --> 00:32:28,980
Mercy if it wanted to come over here and
842
00:32:26,278 --> 00:32:30,538
tear you in half it could
843
00:32:28,980 --> 00:32:32,278
and it's kind of like that with UFOs
844
00:32:30,538 --> 00:32:33,658
you're at the UFO's Mercy it's something
845
00:32:32,278 --> 00:32:35,640
you don't understand so you have a
846
00:32:33,659 --> 00:32:38,340
post-traumatic type thing you have a
847
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:41,220
shunning of your weird you're out there
848
00:32:38,339 --> 00:32:43,619
oh Bill saw UFO once and Bill's weird or
849
00:32:41,220 --> 00:32:46,140
Matt oh he's he's he's the weirdo guy
850
00:32:43,619 --> 00:32:47,639
who's into Bigfoot you know like I said
851
00:32:46,140 --> 00:32:50,340
it's all fun and games until you see one
852
00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:51,840
and then you go to the cover-up and then
853
00:32:50,339 --> 00:32:53,038
you go to some of the more out there
854
00:32:51,839 --> 00:32:54,898
things that we were discussing and
855
00:32:53,038 --> 00:32:56,640
there's a lot of parallels and then I
856
00:32:54,898 --> 00:32:58,558
think one thing the UFO world because
857
00:32:56,640 --> 00:33:00,120
they're so driving for credibility even
858
00:32:58,558 --> 00:33:02,099
more than the Bigfoot world
859
00:33:00,119 --> 00:33:03,719
is you look at mufon and a lot of the
860
00:33:02,099 --> 00:33:05,278
big organizations and they have a very
861
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:06,720
strict rigid
862
00:33:05,278 --> 00:33:08,940
way that they conduct their
863
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:11,819
investigation is that's great time
864
00:33:08,940 --> 00:33:14,100
location temperature what was the
865
00:33:11,819 --> 00:33:16,319
traffic conditions on nearby roads what
866
00:33:14,099 --> 00:33:17,579
kind of what was the environment what
867
00:33:16,319 --> 00:33:20,038
was the State of Mind of the person
868
00:33:17,579 --> 00:33:21,720
where they calmed were they agitated did
869
00:33:20,038 --> 00:33:23,220
this person have a history of mental
870
00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:25,860
illness did they appear to be
871
00:33:23,220 --> 00:33:28,319
intoxicated are they into drugs of any
872
00:33:25,859 --> 00:33:30,058
kind what what was the conditions were
873
00:33:28,319 --> 00:33:31,619
there any other Witnesses is there any
874
00:33:30,058 --> 00:33:33,359
other historic they're very very good
875
00:33:31,619 --> 00:33:35,038
and I think the Bigfoot world could
876
00:33:33,359 --> 00:33:37,979
learn a lot from that from doing almost
877
00:33:35,038 --> 00:33:40,200
a law enforcement type investigation you
878
00:33:37,980 --> 00:33:41,640
know just the facts
879
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:44,580
I don't know it's kind of fascinating
880
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:46,140
the whole disappearances and like uh in
881
00:33:44,579 --> 00:33:48,418
some of the national forests too and
882
00:33:46,140 --> 00:33:49,919
what's that all about
883
00:33:48,419 --> 00:33:51,299
I've done a bunch of research in that
884
00:33:49,919 --> 00:33:53,100
and it's like
885
00:33:51,298 --> 00:33:54,839
walking with somebody one second and
886
00:33:53,099 --> 00:33:58,619
then they're just gone
887
00:33:54,839 --> 00:34:01,079
and then sometimes stuff turns up you
888
00:33:58,619 --> 00:34:03,178
know pieces of their luggage or their
889
00:34:01,079 --> 00:34:05,639
gear or whatever miles away where
890
00:34:03,179 --> 00:34:09,838
there's and you know the time frame
891
00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:11,940
doesn't match and who knows abducted I
892
00:34:09,838 --> 00:34:14,878
don't know you know Bigfoot ran off with
893
00:34:11,940 --> 00:34:16,320
them or who knows
894
00:34:14,878 --> 00:34:18,838
one thing when you get into military
895
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:20,460
Witnesses and police officers when you
896
00:34:18,838 --> 00:34:22,139
work in law enforcement you're a trained
897
00:34:20,460 --> 00:34:23,280
Observer you're meant to look at a crowd
898
00:34:22,139 --> 00:34:24,838
you're meant to pick out things you're
899
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:26,280
meant to interpret things that you have
900
00:34:24,838 --> 00:34:28,079
training and you have background and you
901
00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:30,060
do it for a living so when you have
902
00:34:28,079 --> 00:34:31,679
military and law enforcement there are
903
00:34:30,059 --> 00:34:33,599
plenty of sightings by cops plenty of
904
00:34:31,679 --> 00:34:36,418
sightings by firefighters and lawyers
905
00:34:33,599 --> 00:34:37,859
and judges when you get into military
906
00:34:36,418 --> 00:34:39,898
and law enforce these are trained
907
00:34:37,858 --> 00:34:42,239
observers and when they have that how
908
00:34:39,898 --> 00:34:44,579
much more credible do you want it to be
909
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:45,959
I mean you can't make this stuff up it
910
00:34:44,579 --> 00:34:49,079
always seems like there's some hard
911
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:51,240
evidence that changes their life forever
912
00:34:49,079 --> 00:34:54,418
and they're like I went from a
913
00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:56,819
non-believer to a full believer and in a
914
00:34:54,418 --> 00:35:00,358
second but it's I've always trusted it I
915
00:34:56,820 --> 00:35:03,240
always say trust no one
916
00:35:00,358 --> 00:35:05,039
and it's healthy very very healthy to be
917
00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:07,259
suspicious we've all heard that line
918
00:35:05,039 --> 00:35:08,519
before trust no one from the X-Files but
919
00:35:07,260 --> 00:35:10,140
you have to ask them what does that
920
00:35:08,519 --> 00:35:12,900
really mean
921
00:35:10,139 --> 00:35:16,078
because if I have subscribed to the
922
00:35:12,900 --> 00:35:19,079
mainstream Media or if I subscribe to
923
00:35:16,079 --> 00:35:21,780
what I was taught in school growing up
924
00:35:19,079 --> 00:35:24,599
and then I have this realization later
925
00:35:21,780 --> 00:35:27,420
on that what I've been told is not
926
00:35:24,599 --> 00:35:30,480
entirely the truth and I start
927
00:35:27,420 --> 00:35:33,119
discovering new information and I get
928
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:36,000
that sense of betrayal
929
00:35:33,119 --> 00:35:37,440
then I'll start looking at other sources
930
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:38,880
of information
931
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:41,780
and those other sources of information
932
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:44,338
may offer some truths but those truths
933
00:35:41,780 --> 00:35:46,560
can be mixed in
934
00:35:44,338 --> 00:35:48,719
with
935
00:35:46,559 --> 00:35:51,239
falsehoods
936
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:53,098
and let's just say mainstream Media or
937
00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:55,500
what you're taught in school let's say
938
00:35:53,099 --> 00:35:58,039
there's an agenda there if I look to
939
00:35:55,500 --> 00:36:00,179
some other source
940
00:35:58,039 --> 00:36:03,059
and they may be telling me some other
941
00:36:00,179 --> 00:36:05,039
truth that they weren't telling me maybe
942
00:36:03,059 --> 00:36:06,900
I will believe that
943
00:36:05,039 --> 00:36:08,219
but if they had agendas how do I know
944
00:36:06,900 --> 00:36:10,079
this other person
945
00:36:08,219 --> 00:36:11,819
doesn't have an agenda
946
00:36:10,079 --> 00:36:13,920
and we have to be really really careful
947
00:36:11,820 --> 00:36:17,160
so I think you have to look at all
948
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:19,079
aspects of a conspiracy all aspects of
949
00:36:17,159 --> 00:36:21,899
evidence whether it's cryptozoology and
950
00:36:19,079 --> 00:36:24,960
ufology and try to be objective as you
951
00:36:21,900 --> 00:36:26,460
can it's okay to entertain all these
952
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:28,079
um theories
953
00:36:26,460 --> 00:36:30,300
and explanations as to what the
954
00:36:28,079 --> 00:36:32,099
phenomena is
955
00:36:30,300 --> 00:36:35,880
but
956
00:36:32,099 --> 00:36:38,099
whether it's a conspiracy like Q Anon
957
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:41,579
or whether it's a government cover-up of
958
00:36:38,099 --> 00:36:45,300
the Roswell crash if you believe all
959
00:36:41,579 --> 00:36:48,300
conspiracies then none of them can be
960
00:36:45,300 --> 00:36:51,180
true and so I just think it's healthy to
961
00:36:48,300 --> 00:36:54,900
step back be objective you know enjoy
962
00:36:51,179 --> 00:36:57,118
the the the the prospect of
963
00:36:54,900 --> 00:36:58,980
discovering truth
964
00:36:57,119 --> 00:37:01,559
that has been hidden from us I think
965
00:36:58,980 --> 00:37:04,500
that's very fun and exciting but you
966
00:37:01,559 --> 00:37:07,019
need to be responsible and not
967
00:37:04,500 --> 00:37:08,400
just shift your faith from one voice to
968
00:37:07,019 --> 00:37:10,380
another voice to another person to
969
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:12,720
another source
970
00:37:10,380 --> 00:37:14,940
um wholeheartedly and blindly so that
971
00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:16,379
that's a very slippery negative side to
972
00:37:14,940 --> 00:37:18,960
all of these topics
973
00:37:16,380 --> 00:37:20,519
personally I do think at some point or
974
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:21,780
another we've had contact with aliens
975
00:37:20,519 --> 00:37:23,460
and I think maybe at some point or
976
00:37:21,780 --> 00:37:26,339
another we've had their recovered craft
977
00:37:23,460 --> 00:37:28,679
or given to us technology which is where
978
00:37:26,338 --> 00:37:30,119
stealth you look at where technology was
979
00:37:28,679 --> 00:37:31,559
20 years ago and you look at where it
980
00:37:30,119 --> 00:37:32,599
was 50 years ago and you look at where
981
00:37:31,559 --> 00:37:35,400
it is now
982
00:37:32,599 --> 00:37:37,500
microchips and lithium batteries and all
983
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:39,720
that kind of stuff and every new plane
984
00:37:37,500 --> 00:37:41,400
that comes out is already you know they
985
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:43,379
say that we're 30 years behind what the
986
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:45,480
government and Labs already have you
987
00:37:43,380 --> 00:37:46,559
know and I think that's very true I
988
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:48,119
think they're getting it from I think
989
00:37:46,559 --> 00:37:50,219
some of it could be very well reverse
990
00:37:48,119 --> 00:37:51,960
engineered you know where did Titanium
991
00:37:50,219 --> 00:37:54,719
come from how do you smelt it how do you
992
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:56,639
work with it aluminum even in the 40s
993
00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:58,259
and 50s coming up was a very new thing
994
00:37:56,639 --> 00:37:59,460
where do we work with all these
995
00:37:58,260 --> 00:38:01,440
different how do you know things that
996
00:37:59,460 --> 00:38:03,599
we've had but how do we work with it to
997
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:06,420
microchips to Battery Technology to
998
00:38:03,599 --> 00:38:08,519
touch screen technology to propulsion
999
00:38:06,420 --> 00:38:11,400
all these different things
1000
00:38:08,519 --> 00:38:13,199
and it seems to me that it's coming from
1001
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:15,119
some other place other than our own
1002
00:38:13,199 --> 00:38:17,279
minds and our own research the
1003
00:38:15,119 --> 00:38:19,559
government either officially in some
1004
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:21,240
capacity has some contact and continuing
1005
00:38:19,559 --> 00:38:22,500
contact with alien races or
1006
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:25,139
interdimensional whatever these
1007
00:38:22,500 --> 00:38:26,460
creatures are and they're probably more
1008
00:38:25,139 --> 00:38:28,559
advanced than us and we're probably
1009
00:38:26,460 --> 00:38:30,358
getting some kind of a trade either
1010
00:38:28,559 --> 00:38:32,639
they're trading humans for abductions or
1011
00:38:30,358 --> 00:38:34,500
experiment purposes for technology who
1012
00:38:32,639 --> 00:38:36,179
knows what kind of you know deal in the
1013
00:38:34,500 --> 00:38:37,559
darks being made so yeah I think they
1014
00:38:36,179 --> 00:38:39,480
definitely want to keep it under wraps
1015
00:38:37,559 --> 00:38:41,940
and it kind of you know we're alone in
1016
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:43,500
the universe and we went to the moon and
1017
00:38:41,940 --> 00:38:45,599
we weren't asked to leave the moon and
1018
00:38:43,500 --> 00:38:48,420
the space program and all our modern
1019
00:38:45,599 --> 00:38:50,460
science and Columbus discovered America
1020
00:38:48,420 --> 00:38:51,838
and all that it's all predicated on what
1021
00:38:50,460 --> 00:38:53,519
we know in our science and I think when
1022
00:38:51,838 --> 00:38:56,159
you introduce aliens not to mention
1023
00:38:53,519 --> 00:38:58,320
religion and God there's a lot of
1024
00:38:56,159 --> 00:39:00,000
questions that come up if you suddenly
1025
00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:02,099
acknowledge aliens existed and they're
1026
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:03,599
more advanced and when you start getting
1027
00:39:02,099 --> 00:39:05,338
into
1028
00:39:03,599 --> 00:39:07,200
a lot of alien stuff about there seems
1029
00:39:05,338 --> 00:39:09,179
to be multiple and even hundreds even
1030
00:39:07,199 --> 00:39:11,460
thousands of species of aliens some that
1031
00:39:09,179 --> 00:39:12,899
look like insects and some that look
1032
00:39:11,460 --> 00:39:14,280
like big Nordic people and some that
1033
00:39:12,900 --> 00:39:16,500
look like the little gray aliens and
1034
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:19,500
everything else and some are good for us
1035
00:39:16,500 --> 00:39:21,119
some are benign some are evil you know
1036
00:39:19,500 --> 00:39:23,219
if you want to some don't have our best
1037
00:39:21,119 --> 00:39:25,500
interest in mind so I think it's a big
1038
00:39:23,219 --> 00:39:27,779
can of worms for the government
1039
00:39:25,500 --> 00:39:29,519
yeah so for 10 or 13 years I was a
1040
00:39:27,780 --> 00:39:30,540
director of Investigations from Newfound
1041
00:39:29,519 --> 00:39:32,699
Los Angeles
1042
00:39:30,539 --> 00:39:36,000
where my job was essentially to go out
1043
00:39:32,699 --> 00:39:37,679
and investigate you know UFOs and in
1044
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:39,900
that time period I've
1045
00:39:37,679 --> 00:39:41,460
I'm sure I invested over 300 cases you
1046
00:39:39,900 --> 00:39:43,260
know obviously a lot of them I was able
1047
00:39:41,460 --> 00:39:45,960
to kind of debunk right off the bat you
1048
00:39:43,260 --> 00:39:48,119
know but there's enough there
1049
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:50,280
that was really compelling including we
1050
00:39:48,119 --> 00:39:51,420
had a case in Pine Mountain which is
1051
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:54,060
about an hour and a half of Los Angeles
1052
00:39:51,420 --> 00:39:57,059
to two hours it's a little community
1053
00:39:54,059 --> 00:39:59,039
and we had a case where an object was
1054
00:39:57,059 --> 00:40:00,480
seen flying above someone's house by
1055
00:39:59,039 --> 00:40:03,239
different Witnesses from different
1056
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:05,280
houses on two consecutive nights they
1057
00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:06,598
claim they landed in the forest and they
1058
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:08,339
saw occupants
1059
00:40:06,599 --> 00:40:09,420
and if it wasn't for the quality of you
1060
00:40:08,338 --> 00:40:11,039
know of witnesses I'd be a little
1061
00:40:09,420 --> 00:40:12,240
skeptical because we're talking a pretty
1062
00:40:11,039 --> 00:40:14,519
far out story are we talking about
1063
00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:16,019
occupants but this came from a former uh
1064
00:40:14,519 --> 00:40:17,940
correctional officer
1065
00:40:16,019 --> 00:40:19,739
and like I said cooperated with a
1066
00:40:17,940 --> 00:40:21,720
neighbor that saw it and independently
1067
00:40:19,739 --> 00:40:23,519
and not only that but we walked to the
1068
00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:26,279
force and found a spot where supposedly
1069
00:40:23,519 --> 00:40:29,639
landed notes this big round circular uh
1070
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:31,560
mark on in the middle of this field that
1071
00:40:29,639 --> 00:40:33,779
you know was hard to dismiss can
1072
00:40:31,559 --> 00:40:35,039
considering the stories we just heard so
1073
00:40:33,780 --> 00:40:36,780
normally a sighting would come in
1074
00:40:35,039 --> 00:40:38,519
somebody would either uh they would fill
1075
00:40:36,780 --> 00:40:40,500
out as a database for me some people
1076
00:40:38,519 --> 00:40:42,300
would fill it out and then that gets
1077
00:40:40,500 --> 00:40:44,099
funneled into like different sections
1078
00:40:42,300 --> 00:40:46,500
around the country where there's
1079
00:40:44,099 --> 00:40:47,760
different chapters right and Los Angeles
1080
00:40:46,500 --> 00:40:49,500
probably gets the most amount of
1081
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:51,660
sightings just because it's a big you
1082
00:40:49,500 --> 00:40:54,119
know it's a big community and stuff
1083
00:40:51,659 --> 00:40:56,159
and um so that comes so I get emails I
1084
00:40:54,119 --> 00:40:58,380
also get emails about sightings and it
1085
00:40:56,159 --> 00:41:00,420
was my job to either sign someone
1086
00:40:58,380 --> 00:41:02,160
to do it which rarely there was anybody
1087
00:41:00,420 --> 00:41:03,480
else besides me you know occasionally
1088
00:41:02,159 --> 00:41:04,858
people would come in for a month or two
1089
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:07,320
and they would quit
1090
00:41:04,858 --> 00:41:10,799
and then it was my job to follow up
1091
00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:12,420
and um usually you know most people kind
1092
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:13,740
of just make a phone call
1093
00:41:12,420 --> 00:41:15,539
you know and then you know fill out the
1094
00:41:13,739 --> 00:41:16,500
database and all that but I have a
1095
00:41:15,539 --> 00:41:18,480
little more interest in it so I always
1096
00:41:16,500 --> 00:41:20,639
always try to go meet with someone so
1097
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:22,500
then you go to the spot you try to go
1098
00:41:20,639 --> 00:41:24,598
the same time but they've had their
1099
00:41:22,500 --> 00:41:25,800
sighting around the same type of
1100
00:41:24,599 --> 00:41:27,838
conditions just in case if it's
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00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:28,920
something mundane a lot of times you can
1102
00:41:27,838 --> 00:41:30,299
see it rather you're like oh look it was
1103
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:31,619
a blimp because it comes around around
1104
00:41:30,300 --> 00:41:33,240
that time you know
1105
00:41:31,619 --> 00:41:34,380
and then you kind of you know depending
1106
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:35,199
what the case is you kind of go from
1107
00:41:34,380 --> 00:41:37,440
there
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[Music]
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00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:40,880
I was looking this morning hoping to
1110
00:41:39,599 --> 00:41:43,680
find something
1111
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:46,440
it's definitely harder to find good
1112
00:41:43,679 --> 00:41:49,919
footage of Bigfoot than it is of UFOs
1113
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:52,320
when it comes to the UFO stuff uh when
1114
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:53,940
you get into cattle mutilations and you
1115
00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:56,460
get into places like the Skinwalker
1116
00:41:53,940 --> 00:41:57,900
Ranch where they had UFO sightings there
1117
00:41:56,460 --> 00:42:00,000
are certain places if you follow my
1118
00:41:57,900 --> 00:42:02,400
channel really deep in there I call
1119
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:04,079
places of high strangeness there are
1120
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:05,700
places like Yosemite National Park which
1121
00:42:04,079 --> 00:42:07,440
is a missing 4-1-1 missing person
1122
00:42:05,699 --> 00:42:09,838
capital of the world hundreds of people
1123
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:13,019
in the last 30 or 40 years have gone
1124
00:42:09,838 --> 00:42:14,639
missing in Yosemite National Park lots
1125
00:42:13,019 --> 00:42:17,639
and lots of missing people I think in
1126
00:42:14,639 --> 00:42:19,500
2017 there was 10 or 12 people that they
1127
00:42:17,639 --> 00:42:21,199
never found and I don't mean tripped and
1128
00:42:19,500 --> 00:42:24,900
fell or fell down a mountain I mean just
1129
00:42:21,199 --> 00:42:27,480
stories of kids kids too
1130
00:42:24,900 --> 00:42:29,160
elderly people where they're 15 20 feet
1131
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:30,539
and they go around a rock or around a
1132
00:42:29,159 --> 00:42:32,219
corner and then they're never seen again
1133
00:42:30,539 --> 00:42:34,679
and found days later in weird
1134
00:42:32,219 --> 00:42:37,078
circumstances in these areas we'll have
1135
00:42:34,679 --> 00:42:38,759
UFO sighting strange lights in the skies
1136
00:42:37,079 --> 00:42:40,560
and then I'll also have Bigfoot
1137
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:43,380
encounters too it seems like they just
1138
00:42:40,559 --> 00:42:47,338
get this paranormal you know to me it's
1139
00:42:43,380 --> 00:42:50,760
like Bigfoot is 99 well it's probably 80
1140
00:42:47,338 --> 00:42:52,380
percent human 19 ape and then one
1141
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:54,780
percent something we don't know
1142
00:42:52,380 --> 00:42:56,400
something like if the Paranormal is a
1143
00:42:54,780 --> 00:42:58,680
pool it's got its big toe it's kicking
1144
00:42:56,400 --> 00:43:00,420
its toes in the Paranormal pool it's not
1145
00:42:58,679 --> 00:43:03,118
a paranormal entity it's not like a
1146
00:43:00,420 --> 00:43:06,300
ghost or something like that or a demon
1147
00:43:03,119 --> 00:43:07,800
but it definitely has that side to them
1148
00:43:06,300 --> 00:43:10,200
so there are all sorts of different
1149
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:12,300
theories that I've heard out there that
1150
00:43:10,199 --> 00:43:14,818
bigfoots are spies for different alien
1151
00:43:12,300 --> 00:43:17,039
species I've heard encounters from
1152
00:43:14,818 --> 00:43:19,500
people who've had habituations with
1153
00:43:17,039 --> 00:43:21,539
Bigfoot families who where their family
1154
00:43:19,500 --> 00:43:23,039
lived on a property for many many years
1155
00:43:21,539 --> 00:43:25,139
and their bigfoots that live in the
1156
00:43:23,039 --> 00:43:27,900
areas and they would trade with them or
1157
00:43:25,139 --> 00:43:29,699
talk with them and even some people
1158
00:43:27,900 --> 00:43:31,858
communicate with them learn part of
1159
00:43:29,699 --> 00:43:33,539
their language it's out there stories
1160
00:43:31,858 --> 00:43:34,559
I've heard though can either confirm or
1161
00:43:33,539 --> 00:43:37,019
deny
1162
00:43:34,559 --> 00:43:38,940
talk that when bigfoots get to a certain
1163
00:43:37,019 --> 00:43:40,619
age they go with the star people
1164
00:43:38,940 --> 00:43:41,940
and then they come back I've heard
1165
00:43:40,619 --> 00:43:43,440
stories like that
1166
00:43:41,940 --> 00:43:45,240
and then there's other stories of people
1167
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:46,679
you know a couple guys out in you know
1168
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:48,539
out in the country drinking beer on
1169
00:43:46,679 --> 00:43:50,659
their tailgate and the UFO lands and
1170
00:43:48,539 --> 00:43:54,380
bigfoots get out
1171
00:43:50,659 --> 00:43:56,879
one of the most exciting aspects of
1172
00:43:54,380 --> 00:43:59,760
similarities between ufology and
1173
00:43:56,880 --> 00:44:03,079
cryptozoology are associated events
1174
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:05,960
cattle mutilation often you see orbs
1175
00:44:03,079 --> 00:44:09,740
people have witnessed lights in the sky
1176
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:13,199
UFOs associated with cattle mutilations
1177
00:44:09,739 --> 00:44:15,179
crop circles and Bigfoot sightings as
1178
00:44:13,199 --> 00:44:18,000
well encrypted events
1179
00:44:15,179 --> 00:44:22,139
so what does that mean if Bigfoot
1180
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:24,059
is nothing more than another ape family
1181
00:44:22,139 --> 00:44:26,400
member
1182
00:44:24,059 --> 00:44:30,659
in the hominin branch that has yet to be
1183
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:32,639
discovered our cousin you know out there
1184
00:44:30,659 --> 00:44:34,858
I've heard a lot of good explanations as
1185
00:44:32,639 --> 00:44:38,118
to why we haven't
1186
00:44:34,858 --> 00:44:38,119
caught them on camera
1187
00:44:39,358 --> 00:44:44,219
but at some point you would think why
1188
00:44:41,519 --> 00:44:47,219
why haven't we gotten enough
1189
00:44:44,219 --> 00:44:49,679
evidence with hair sampling and DNA
1190
00:44:47,219 --> 00:44:51,480
testing to just outright proof that
1191
00:44:49,679 --> 00:44:53,460
there's a brand new species I know
1192
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:55,980
there's some good evidence out there
1193
00:44:53,460 --> 00:44:59,000
But ultimately with all the
1194
00:44:55,980 --> 00:44:59,000
the cameras
1195
00:44:59,338 --> 00:45:05,400
no one has caught a Bigfoot really
1196
00:45:02,338 --> 00:45:09,599
except for the Patterson film
1197
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:12,119
so what what is Bigfoot doing that keeps
1198
00:45:09,599 --> 00:45:13,800
them so elusive
1199
00:45:12,119 --> 00:45:16,619
of course we have tracks and that sort
1200
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:19,200
of thing I think I think there might be
1201
00:45:16,619 --> 00:45:22,380
something else going on here
1202
00:45:19,199 --> 00:45:24,539
I know it it's you know getting a little
1203
00:45:22,380 --> 00:45:27,358
bit out there
1204
00:45:24,539 --> 00:45:29,960
but the more and more I think about it I
1205
00:45:27,358 --> 00:45:33,019
I feel like
1206
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:35,460
the idea that
1207
00:45:33,019 --> 00:45:38,039
extraterrestrials as people suspect them
1208
00:45:35,460 --> 00:45:41,400
to be are simply these physical nuts and
1209
00:45:38,039 --> 00:45:44,219
bolts beings that are coming here
1210
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:46,800
um or that Bigfoot is a physical being
1211
00:45:44,219 --> 00:45:49,618
just living in the woods
1212
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:53,339
may not be entirely true
1213
00:45:49,619 --> 00:45:55,880
uh it seems to me that Bigfoot has the
1214
00:45:53,338 --> 00:46:00,900
ability to slip in and out of detection
1215
00:45:55,880 --> 00:46:03,599
far too easily for some mammal that's
1216
00:46:00,900 --> 00:46:07,139
just yet to be caught on film
1217
00:46:03,599 --> 00:46:13,079
and with extraterrestrials
1218
00:46:07,139 --> 00:46:17,219
they too seem to have a will over
1219
00:46:13,079 --> 00:46:19,800
physics or reality as we understand it
1220
00:46:17,219 --> 00:46:21,659
and can manipulate
1221
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:22,680
uh the world that we see in our five
1222
00:46:21,659 --> 00:46:24,779
senses
1223
00:46:22,679 --> 00:46:27,118
and slip in and out
1224
00:46:24,780 --> 00:46:28,680
of that view as well
1225
00:46:27,119 --> 00:46:32,460
and because those two things are
1226
00:46:28,679 --> 00:46:34,318
happening and we see events where they
1227
00:46:32,460 --> 00:46:37,318
overlap
1228
00:46:34,318 --> 00:46:38,400
maybe just maybe
1229
00:46:37,318 --> 00:46:40,739
um
1230
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:41,760
these are these are beings that are
1231
00:46:40,739 --> 00:46:44,279
Beyond
1232
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:46,440
uh just biological
1233
00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:48,420
here's the problem a lot of people have
1234
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:50,220
with that and here's the problem a lot
1235
00:46:48,420 --> 00:46:52,200
of people have and I seem to be
1236
00:46:50,219 --> 00:46:54,779
defending those people who believe these
1237
00:46:52,199 --> 00:46:57,358
things are real without question now and
1238
00:46:54,780 --> 00:47:00,180
I'm not really doing that but here here
1239
00:46:57,358 --> 00:47:02,598
is something I will say I guess in their
1240
00:47:00,179 --> 00:47:02,598
defense
1241
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:09,720
we are curious by Nature
1242
00:47:06,539 --> 00:47:11,940
what we have to be careful is is that we
1243
00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:14,879
don't automatically assume we know the
1244
00:47:11,940 --> 00:47:17,940
answers and project that answer on the
1245
00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:20,280
research if someone comes knocking at my
1246
00:47:17,940 --> 00:47:22,920
door at two o'clock in the morning
1247
00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:25,920
immediately I think uh oh something's
1248
00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:29,300
wrong or that could be somebody trying
1249
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:33,000
to rob me that's a different supposition
1250
00:47:29,300 --> 00:47:34,440
than oh I just saw something walk by my
1251
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:36,000
window oh that could have been a ghost
1252
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:38,220
or a Bigfoot
1253
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:39,719
that's an immediate conclusion that
1254
00:47:38,219 --> 00:47:42,239
you've projected
1255
00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:45,059
the proper way to handle that is well I
1256
00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:48,419
wonder what that was or I wonder who it
1257
00:47:45,059 --> 00:47:51,000
was so you turn on your lights maybe you
1258
00:47:48,420 --> 00:47:53,338
go to another window and investigate and
1259
00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:56,880
if you never figure out what or who it
1260
00:47:53,338 --> 00:47:59,039
was you don't immediately project an
1261
00:47:56,880 --> 00:48:01,019
answer without any evidence and that's
1262
00:47:59,039 --> 00:48:03,119
what a lot of people do
1263
00:48:01,019 --> 00:48:04,858
on the flip side of that that gets
1264
00:48:03,119 --> 00:48:07,920
people in trouble and that's what makes
1265
00:48:04,858 --> 00:48:10,019
this group of people so anti or are
1266
00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:12,720
drastically opposed to the investigation
1267
00:48:10,019 --> 00:48:15,500
and pursuit in the first place they look
1268
00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:18,598
at those people who are very
1269
00:48:15,500 --> 00:48:21,179
misdirected and have good intentions but
1270
00:48:18,599 --> 00:48:22,980
are very misdirected and they say well
1271
00:48:21,179 --> 00:48:24,598
that's the that's the standard of
1272
00:48:22,980 --> 00:48:27,059
reference for people who believe in
1273
00:48:24,599 --> 00:48:29,099
mysterious things or want to go out in
1274
00:48:27,059 --> 00:48:32,578
pursuit in search of the unknown well in
1275
00:48:29,099 --> 00:48:34,800
reality that's not that's not true
1276
00:48:32,579 --> 00:48:37,318
those people who just automatically
1277
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:40,260
assume that you know this is all Bonkers
1278
00:48:37,318 --> 00:48:42,119
it's good to be a skeptic but it's not
1279
00:48:40,260 --> 00:48:44,220
good to be a cynic
1280
00:48:42,119 --> 00:48:47,519
don't be cynical just be skeptical
1281
00:48:44,219 --> 00:48:49,980
that's why I like Joe Nichol people hate
1282
00:48:47,519 --> 00:48:52,199
that guy has a PHD I believe in English
1283
00:48:49,980 --> 00:48:55,318
from the University of Kentucky and
1284
00:48:52,199 --> 00:48:58,259
works for an organization that pretty
1285
00:48:55,318 --> 00:49:00,838
much goes out and debunks things I
1286
00:48:58,260 --> 00:49:04,280
respect Joe Nichol because he applied
1287
00:49:00,838 --> 00:49:07,440
doesn't make fun of anybody he applies
1288
00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:08,579
that scientific inquiry and integrity to
1289
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:11,700
the question
1290
00:49:08,579 --> 00:49:13,260
and he really wants to know the answer
1291
00:49:11,699 --> 00:49:15,659
to the question but he's not going to
1292
00:49:13,260 --> 00:49:19,140
immediately assume that it was Bigfoot
1293
00:49:15,659 --> 00:49:23,219
an alien Loch Ness the Nessie from Loch
1294
00:49:19,139 --> 00:49:24,838
Ness or ghost or a demon he doesn't jump
1295
00:49:23,219 --> 00:49:27,179
to those conclusions
1296
00:49:24,838 --> 00:49:29,338
there are other people however who are
1297
00:49:27,179 --> 00:49:32,338
so close-minded they don't even want to
1298
00:49:29,338 --> 00:49:35,338
investigate Joe will investigate
1299
00:49:32,338 --> 00:49:38,759
because it requires them to reorganize
1300
00:49:35,338 --> 00:49:39,858
their world view see we all have a
1301
00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:43,440
worldview
1302
00:49:39,858 --> 00:49:46,259
and if we were to find out if we were to
1303
00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:48,119
have an an experience
1304
00:49:46,260 --> 00:49:50,400
if we were to go hiking through the
1305
00:49:48,119 --> 00:49:53,579
woods and come upon one of these
1306
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:56,760
creatures if they exist
1307
00:49:53,579 --> 00:49:59,400
and it's incontrovertible proof to us
1308
00:49:56,760 --> 00:50:01,079
and we are looking eye to eye
1309
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:04,019
at this creature
1310
00:50:01,079 --> 00:50:08,119
and we live to tell about it we have to
1311
00:50:04,019 --> 00:50:08,119
then reorganize our entire world view
1312
00:50:09,539 --> 00:50:13,559
and just it's off it's fascinating I
1313
00:50:11,699 --> 00:50:15,960
mean bigfoots are given and so all you
1314
00:50:13,559 --> 00:50:18,719
got to do is find one I just don't know
1315
00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:21,119
if you're gonna do it on Bigfoot Hunters
1316
00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:23,939
you know eventually though
1317
00:50:21,119 --> 00:50:26,160
eventually we'll all wake up I would
1318
00:50:23,940 --> 00:50:28,740
think if you look at it for more of a
1319
00:50:26,159 --> 00:50:31,139
scientific hard fact if you accept the
1320
00:50:28,739 --> 00:50:33,000
possibility of alien life if you then
1321
00:50:31,139 --> 00:50:35,639
want to make the leap to people are
1322
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:36,900
seeing UFOs in UFO means unidentified
1323
00:50:35,639 --> 00:50:38,400
flying object it just doesn't
1324
00:50:36,900 --> 00:50:40,019
necessarily mean alien it just means we
1325
00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:42,000
don't know what it is
1326
00:50:40,019 --> 00:50:43,559
and if you take the other leap and want
1327
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:45,599
to go and yeah I believe aliens visit
1328
00:50:43,559 --> 00:50:48,318
the earth I believe you know the crash
1329
00:50:45,599 --> 00:50:52,079
at Roswell and the government cover-up
1330
00:50:48,318 --> 00:50:54,000
and and you believe that you know on
1331
00:50:52,079 --> 00:50:56,400
occasion you know these alien species
1332
00:50:54,000 --> 00:51:00,059
want to do abduct people for whatever
1333
00:50:56,400 --> 00:51:01,858
reason nefarious are good they want to
1334
00:51:00,059 --> 00:51:03,660
do experiments on us they want to
1335
00:51:01,858 --> 00:51:06,058
collect our DNA they want to study us
1336
00:51:03,659 --> 00:51:08,279
just like amazingly oh why would aliens
1337
00:51:06,059 --> 00:51:10,260
want to take people and study them what
1338
00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:12,119
do we do when we go study species as
1339
00:51:10,260 --> 00:51:14,700
humans as biologists
1340
00:51:12,119 --> 00:51:16,920
we tranquilize them we tag them we radio
1341
00:51:14,699 --> 00:51:18,480
collar them we take their height we take
1342
00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:20,220
their weight we check their teeth we
1343
00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:21,719
checked their claws and then we release
1344
00:51:20,219 --> 00:51:23,639
them back in the wild we do it every day
1345
00:51:21,719 --> 00:51:26,159
with bears and mountain lions and
1346
00:51:23,639 --> 00:51:27,719
coyotes and Badgers and gorillas and
1347
00:51:26,159 --> 00:51:28,858
chimpanzees and crocodiles and
1348
00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:30,959
everything else
1349
00:51:28,858 --> 00:51:33,179
so it would make sense to me if I was an
1350
00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:35,220
alien life form and I wanted to study
1351
00:51:33,179 --> 00:51:37,199
Earth for whatever reason and I was
1352
00:51:35,219 --> 00:51:39,000
abducting people what are these very
1353
00:51:37,199 --> 00:51:41,879
large hairy people that hide out in the
1354
00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:45,119
woods maybe I'm going to abduct them too
1355
00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:47,160
maybe they are genetically
1356
00:51:45,119 --> 00:51:48,960
manipulated by an ancient civilization
1357
00:51:47,159 --> 00:51:51,659
that's a theory about them maybe they're
1358
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:54,358
genetically manipulated by aliens maybe
1359
00:51:51,659 --> 00:51:56,519
some ancient civilization tens of
1360
00:51:54,358 --> 00:51:58,980
thousands 20 30 000 years ago had some
1361
00:51:56,519 --> 00:52:00,480
advanced technology maybe we're not the
1362
00:51:58,980 --> 00:52:01,980
only ones that ever had what we call
1363
00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:04,079
technology
1364
00:52:01,980 --> 00:52:05,940
maybe they had influences from Aliens
1365
00:52:04,079 --> 00:52:07,740
there's all sorts of theories on where
1366
00:52:05,940 --> 00:52:09,960
their creation could be some of their
1367
00:52:07,739 --> 00:52:12,358
more paranormal abilities some of the
1368
00:52:09,960 --> 00:52:13,619
sightings of people like there's been a
1369
00:52:12,358 --> 00:52:15,358
lot of reports I've talked to people
1370
00:52:13,619 --> 00:52:17,338
from military bases who worked on
1371
00:52:15,358 --> 00:52:19,139
military bases as MPS and stuff and they
1372
00:52:17,338 --> 00:52:21,000
would see UFOs sightings all the time
1373
00:52:19,139 --> 00:52:23,039
and it was always don't ask don't tell
1374
00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:24,539
you didn't see anything but they also
1375
00:52:23,039 --> 00:52:26,940
had a lot of Bigfoot encounters too
1376
00:52:24,539 --> 00:52:28,259
Bigfoot's coming up to the fence and the
1377
00:52:26,940 --> 00:52:29,760
lights would flicker for a second into
1378
00:52:28,260 --> 00:52:33,180
bigfoots on the inside of the fence
1379
00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:34,559
strange stuff you know and the guards on
1380
00:52:33,179 --> 00:52:37,139
the perimeter are like yeah we see
1381
00:52:34,559 --> 00:52:39,839
bigfoots yep we see UFOs like it's a
1382
00:52:37,139 --> 00:52:41,699
weird ass world out there you know and
1383
00:52:39,838 --> 00:52:42,900
these are soldiers these are people you
1384
00:52:41,699 --> 00:52:44,639
know they don't have anything to gain
1385
00:52:42,900 --> 00:52:45,900
you know actually most a lot of people
1386
00:52:44,639 --> 00:52:47,639
want to remain anonymous because you
1387
00:52:45,900 --> 00:52:48,900
have everything to lose by talking about
1388
00:52:47,639 --> 00:52:51,000
Bigfoot
1389
00:52:48,900 --> 00:52:53,519
so there's definitely a connection there
1390
00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:55,199
what it is no one can definitively say
1391
00:52:53,519 --> 00:52:56,940
if I ever get abducted by aliens I'm
1392
00:52:55,199 --> 00:52:59,279
going to ask them you know hey before
1393
00:52:56,940 --> 00:53:00,900
you guys you know do your thing what's
1394
00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:03,059
the deal with Bigfoot is that you guys
1395
00:53:00,900 --> 00:53:05,579
or is that another tribe available or
1396
00:53:03,059 --> 00:53:07,019
species of aliens is uh what's going on
1397
00:53:05,579 --> 00:53:09,720
with that you know
1398
00:53:07,019 --> 00:53:11,400
and see we have as humans always been at
1399
00:53:09,719 --> 00:53:13,139
the top of the food chain
1400
00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:15,240
you know we're supposed to be the
1401
00:53:13,139 --> 00:53:17,098
smartest species I question that every
1402
00:53:15,239 --> 00:53:20,219
day but
1403
00:53:17,099 --> 00:53:21,780
if you come face to face with a bipedal
1404
00:53:20,219 --> 00:53:24,118
creature that stands about eight and
1405
00:53:21,780 --> 00:53:26,760
eight or nine feet tall and is smart
1406
00:53:24,119 --> 00:53:27,780
enough to have evaded detection and
1407
00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:29,940
capture
1408
00:53:27,780 --> 00:53:31,680
and live in the areas and the
1409
00:53:29,940 --> 00:53:34,019
environments that they live in just fine
1410
00:53:31,679 --> 00:53:36,259
then we have to reorganize our world
1411
00:53:34,019 --> 00:53:36,259
view
1412
00:53:37,260 --> 00:53:40,200
a certain portion of the UFO Community
1413
00:53:38,699 --> 00:53:41,219
which is it's a growing portion too it's
1414
00:53:40,199 --> 00:53:43,078
pretty big
1415
00:53:41,219 --> 00:53:45,058
think that space force was specifically
1416
00:53:43,079 --> 00:53:47,579
announced
1417
00:53:45,059 --> 00:53:48,720
because of the alien presence and UFOs
1418
00:53:47,579 --> 00:53:51,059
you know
1419
00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:52,500
and that you know the the White House
1420
00:53:51,059 --> 00:53:54,599
you know Trump and Pence and all that
1421
00:53:52,500 --> 00:53:56,818
are in in on the secret and they're
1422
00:53:54,599 --> 00:53:58,440
secretly fighting you know aliens you
1423
00:53:56,818 --> 00:53:59,818
know on the moon or whatever starting
1424
00:53:58,440 --> 00:54:03,599
right here
1425
00:53:59,818 --> 00:54:07,858
and right now because this moment is
1426
00:54:03,599 --> 00:54:09,960
your moment it belongs to you
1427
00:54:07,858 --> 00:54:12,058
I don't buy that at all personally and
1428
00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:13,920
I'm okay with the space force thing you
1429
00:54:12,059 --> 00:54:16,079
know I'm not a fan of thinking military
1430
00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:18,119
first in terms of space exploration
1431
00:54:16,079 --> 00:54:20,099
versus scientific exploration so that
1432
00:54:18,119 --> 00:54:21,599
bothers me a little bit but I'm okay
1433
00:54:20,099 --> 00:54:23,519
with it but
1434
00:54:21,599 --> 00:54:25,200
it's just that's not how any of this
1435
00:54:23,519 --> 00:54:27,239
works now you know whether you like
1436
00:54:25,199 --> 00:54:30,419
Trump or not regardless I I don't care
1437
00:54:27,239 --> 00:54:31,379
but that's not present isn't going to be
1438
00:54:30,420 --> 00:54:33,599
in the know
1439
00:54:31,380 --> 00:54:34,920
not a gas from the outside of the if
1440
00:54:33,599 --> 00:54:36,359
anybody knows it's someone that's
1441
00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:39,240
involved in the military-industrial
1442
00:54:36,358 --> 00:54:41,699
complex you know and that would be maybe
1443
00:54:39,239 --> 00:54:43,558
Bush would be the last the Father Bush
1444
00:54:41,699 --> 00:54:45,179
would be the last guy maybe that would
1445
00:54:43,559 --> 00:54:46,740
be in the know
1446
00:54:45,179 --> 00:54:48,539
I don't think necessarily presidents
1447
00:54:46,739 --> 00:54:49,379
know the whole story and certainly
1448
00:54:48,539 --> 00:54:51,000
they're not going to create a whole
1449
00:54:49,380 --> 00:54:52,980
space for us just to fight aliens I mean
1450
00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:54,719
that sounds like fantasy to me you know
1451
00:54:52,980 --> 00:54:57,719
yeah I think of all the presidents the
1452
00:54:54,719 --> 00:54:59,578
you know the older Bush I has really
1453
00:54:57,719 --> 00:55:01,439
talked about UFOs if ever but I think it
1454
00:54:59,579 --> 00:55:03,839
makes sense in terms of he was a CIA guy
1455
00:55:01,440 --> 00:55:05,220
those guys you know have aren't going to
1456
00:55:03,838 --> 00:55:07,440
talk they're in it for life you know and
1457
00:55:05,219 --> 00:55:10,139
if anybody out of the president's from
1458
00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:11,280
from baby Bush to Clinton to Trump is
1459
00:55:10,139 --> 00:55:13,078
going to know anything he would be the
1460
00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:15,359
guy but it would be the last guy I would
1461
00:55:13,079 --> 00:55:17,760
expect to actually talk about it you
1462
00:55:15,358 --> 00:55:20,159
know I think it's so compartmentalized
1463
00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:22,859
and it's such a need to know basis that
1464
00:55:20,159 --> 00:55:24,299
so few people know the whole story I
1465
00:55:22,858 --> 00:55:26,400
don't think I need a presence
1466
00:55:24,300 --> 00:55:28,619
certainly not the vice presidents or you
1467
00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:29,639
know it's become very popular now right
1468
00:55:28,619 --> 00:55:31,200
for someone that's running for president
1469
00:55:29,639 --> 00:55:33,299
they're like well I'm going to disclose
1470
00:55:31,199 --> 00:55:35,098
I'm gonna look into the alien thing I
1471
00:55:33,300 --> 00:55:37,200
see these articles or this post on
1472
00:55:35,099 --> 00:55:39,960
Facebook almost daily now it's just not
1473
00:55:37,199 --> 00:55:42,419
the way it works you know
1474
00:55:39,960 --> 00:55:44,280
with Jimmy Carter reporting
1475
00:55:42,420 --> 00:55:47,280
some years later he didn't immediately
1476
00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:51,900
do it but several years later when he
1477
00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:55,859
reported the UFO it went into the annals
1478
00:55:51,900 --> 00:55:59,099
of History it is now a documented UFO
1479
00:55:55,858 --> 00:56:01,739
Reporting again that is a scientific
1480
00:55:59,099 --> 00:56:03,720
term if I were to walk outside my front
1481
00:56:01,739 --> 00:56:07,318
door and see a bright red glowing object
1482
00:56:03,719 --> 00:56:09,959
in the sky that I couldn't identify as a
1483
00:56:07,318 --> 00:56:11,279
plane or the Goodyear blimp which I I
1484
00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:13,440
don't understand I don't think it would
1485
00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:15,119
ever glow in the orange if I have no
1486
00:56:13,440 --> 00:56:17,220
evidence to contrary then I'm just going
1487
00:56:15,119 --> 00:56:20,760
to say there was an unidentified object
1488
00:56:17,219 --> 00:56:23,338
flying in the sky above my home that's a
1489
00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:25,800
scientific explanation of the unknown
1490
00:56:23,338 --> 00:56:28,440
it's it you know at that moment that it
1491
00:56:25,800 --> 00:56:30,780
was a flying and it was B unidentified
1492
00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:33,119
and you can identify say the location
1493
00:56:30,780 --> 00:56:35,280
that's the best you can do those are all
1494
00:56:33,119 --> 00:56:37,079
very accurate statements so what Jimmy
1495
00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:39,540
Carter did he brought an air of
1496
00:56:37,079 --> 00:56:43,260
credibility to the reporting but Jimmy
1497
00:56:39,539 --> 00:56:47,159
Carter was and still is at 96 years oh a
1498
00:56:43,260 --> 00:56:50,280
very credible individual I surmised he
1499
00:56:47,159 --> 00:56:52,259
lost the presidency in 1980 to Ronald
1500
00:56:50,280 --> 00:56:54,839
Reagan because he was just too honest
1501
00:56:52,260 --> 00:56:56,940
and that's what we've got to have that
1502
00:56:54,838 --> 00:57:00,239
that is one thing we've got to look for
1503
00:56:56,940 --> 00:57:02,579
when we do research into the unknown and
1504
00:57:00,239 --> 00:57:05,879
we try to we try to resolve these issues
1505
00:57:02,579 --> 00:57:07,559
and solve Mysteries you have to look for
1506
00:57:05,880 --> 00:57:10,619
the more credible
1507
00:57:07,559 --> 00:57:12,300
the more reliable resources and reports
1508
00:57:10,619 --> 00:57:13,858
you have to and that's why it's so
1509
00:57:12,300 --> 00:57:15,059
important to know the people reporting
1510
00:57:13,858 --> 00:57:17,000
these phenomena
1511
00:57:15,059 --> 00:57:21,059
the other major difference between
1512
00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:22,260
ufology and cryptozoology is the
1513
00:57:21,059 --> 00:57:24,480
evidence
1514
00:57:22,260 --> 00:57:27,260
cryptozoology doesn't have nearly as
1515
00:57:24,480 --> 00:57:29,699
much supportive evidence
1516
00:57:27,260 --> 00:57:33,720
compared to ufology and I know that
1517
00:57:29,699 --> 00:57:37,578
Ruffles some feathers yes there are uh
1518
00:57:33,719 --> 00:57:39,899
Footprints yes we have some sampling yes
1519
00:57:37,579 --> 00:57:42,240
we have
1520
00:57:39,900 --> 00:57:43,318
some video not really the best in
1521
00:57:42,239 --> 00:57:44,818
general
1522
00:57:43,318 --> 00:57:48,058
but
1523
00:57:44,818 --> 00:57:51,239
nephology has a rich history
1524
00:57:48,059 --> 00:57:53,220
all the way back to the 1947 Nathan
1525
00:57:51,239 --> 00:57:54,779
Twining memo Lieutenant General Nathan
1526
00:57:53,219 --> 00:57:57,419
20.
1527
00:57:54,780 --> 00:58:00,300
openly in his report
1528
00:57:57,420 --> 00:58:04,920
speculating that Kraft witnessed by
1529
00:58:00,300 --> 00:58:06,839
pilots and and military personnel
1530
00:58:04,920 --> 00:58:10,200
could possibly be something that's
1531
00:58:06,838 --> 00:58:12,480
off-world and there's a rich history all
1532
00:58:10,199 --> 00:58:15,118
the way through a numerous public and
1533
00:58:12,480 --> 00:58:18,300
secretive projects
1534
00:58:15,119 --> 00:58:20,460
um regarding the investigation of UFOs
1535
00:58:18,300 --> 00:58:22,619
and that leads all the way through
1536
00:58:20,460 --> 00:58:23,760
Project Blue Book up until the atip
1537
00:58:22,619 --> 00:58:27,960
program
1538
00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:30,839
and so you combine that with the number
1539
00:58:27,960 --> 00:58:32,338
of eyewitnesses who are pilots and
1540
00:58:30,838 --> 00:58:34,019
military personnel that have come
1541
00:58:32,338 --> 00:58:36,779
forward over the years
1542
00:58:34,019 --> 00:58:39,298
uh coronal Colonel Philip Corso I mean
1543
00:58:36,780 --> 00:58:41,280
controversial as he may be
1544
00:58:39,298 --> 00:58:42,838
you know there's a rich history there
1545
00:58:41,280 --> 00:58:44,400
people saying look I've worked behind
1546
00:58:42,838 --> 00:58:46,139
the scenes
1547
00:58:44,400 --> 00:58:48,000
um and this is what happened this is
1548
00:58:46,139 --> 00:58:50,879
what I saw
1549
00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:54,239
and so when the government is spending
1550
00:58:50,880 --> 00:58:58,380
so much time energy and resource and
1551
00:58:54,239 --> 00:59:00,000
money into investigating UFOs
1552
00:58:58,380 --> 00:59:02,579
um
1553
00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:04,920
there must be something there
1554
00:59:02,579 --> 00:59:06,780
whereas with cryptozoology you just
1555
00:59:04,920 --> 00:59:07,500
don't have that
1556
00:59:06,780 --> 00:59:10,260
um
1557
00:59:07,500 --> 00:59:13,079
you know I guess
1558
00:59:10,260 --> 00:59:16,020
I guess if the government thought that
1559
00:59:13,079 --> 00:59:16,980
Cryptids were more of a
1560
00:59:16,019 --> 00:59:19,079
um
1561
00:59:16,980 --> 00:59:21,179
National Security
1562
00:59:19,079 --> 00:59:23,400
threat then they would maybe investigate
1563
00:59:21,179 --> 00:59:24,358
those things I don't know
1564
00:59:23,400 --> 00:59:25,980
um
1565
00:59:24,358 --> 00:59:28,619
you know we had
1566
00:59:25,980 --> 00:59:31,500
we had psychic programs
1567
00:59:28,619 --> 00:59:34,200
only because you know for remote viewing
1568
00:59:31,500 --> 00:59:35,639
only because the Russians were doing
1569
00:59:34,199 --> 00:59:39,419
this so
1570
00:59:35,639 --> 00:59:40,500
would we have ever looked into
1571
00:59:39,420 --> 00:59:43,680
um
1572
00:59:40,500 --> 00:59:44,940
using psychics to remote view unless the
1573
00:59:43,679 --> 00:59:48,419
Russians were doing it so that's a
1574
00:59:44,940 --> 00:59:49,619
national security issue right there so
1575
00:59:48,420 --> 00:59:51,119
that's the only reason I could think
1576
00:59:49,619 --> 00:59:52,798
that maybe the government would
1577
00:59:51,119 --> 00:59:56,640
investigate
1578
00:59:52,798 --> 01:00:00,480
that the problem is so many Cryptids
1579
00:59:56,639 --> 01:00:03,539
um get mixed and there's a cross over
1580
01:00:00,480 --> 01:00:04,980
effect between imagine Pure Imagination
1581
01:00:03,539 --> 01:00:08,039
of
1582
01:00:04,980 --> 01:00:10,380
you know creatures from our mythologies
1583
01:00:08,039 --> 01:00:13,338
to actual
1584
01:00:10,380 --> 01:00:16,920
creatures that have been eyewitnessed
1585
01:00:13,338 --> 01:00:19,380
or blurly caught on camera
1586
01:00:16,920 --> 01:00:21,119
so there's just I
1587
01:00:19,380 --> 01:00:24,119
I support
1588
01:00:21,119 --> 01:00:27,119
actually spending more time and energy
1589
01:00:24,119 --> 01:00:28,440
and money into investing Cryptids and I
1590
01:00:27,119 --> 01:00:31,039
think that there's a lot more that can
1591
01:00:28,440 --> 01:00:34,019
be done and I think that in ufology
1592
01:00:31,039 --> 01:00:36,838
there's just been way more Collective
1593
01:00:34,019 --> 01:00:38,940
resource put into the investigation from
1594
01:00:36,838 --> 01:00:41,519
civilians and the government and
1595
01:00:38,940 --> 01:00:44,780
institutions and Academia in general
1596
01:00:41,519 --> 01:00:46,400
there's just not nearly as much effort
1597
01:00:44,780 --> 01:00:49,079
investigating
1598
01:00:46,400 --> 01:00:50,579
cryptozoology so that's a whole other
1599
01:00:49,079 --> 01:00:51,660
door that I think that that should be
1600
01:00:50,579 --> 01:00:53,700
opened
1601
01:00:51,659 --> 01:00:55,858
well in terms of my favorite evidence
1602
01:00:53,699 --> 01:00:59,159
for UFO sightings is probably my own
1603
01:00:55,858 --> 01:01:02,219
sighting which I had as a kid
1604
01:00:59,159 --> 01:01:03,719
it was I was about I was age 10. yeah I
1605
01:01:02,219 --> 01:01:05,279
lived right here in Los Angeles and
1606
01:01:03,719 --> 01:01:07,439
we're hanging out by the pool with my
1607
01:01:05,280 --> 01:01:09,720
mom and I believe it was a hairdresser
1608
01:01:07,440 --> 01:01:11,460
it was throughout the time you know so
1609
01:01:09,719 --> 01:01:13,019
hang out by the pool probably maybe
1610
01:01:11,460 --> 01:01:14,519
eating something getting some drinks it
1611
01:01:13,019 --> 01:01:17,219
was pretty late well I wasn't drinking
1612
01:01:14,519 --> 01:01:18,960
not go August you know I was 10 but
1613
01:01:17,219 --> 01:01:20,818
but and then all of a sudden we saw this
1614
01:01:18,960 --> 01:01:22,740
big light that kind of came down and
1615
01:01:20,818 --> 01:01:24,960
hovered above us about 30 feet above our
1616
01:01:22,739 --> 01:01:28,439
heads above the pool uh completely
1617
01:01:24,960 --> 01:01:30,119
silent uh about you know 30 foot across
1618
01:01:28,440 --> 01:01:32,460
about three foot up in the air so about
1619
01:01:30,119 --> 01:01:33,780
30 by 30. and I'd say they're selling
1620
01:01:32,460 --> 01:01:36,659
and it kind of either blinked off or
1621
01:01:33,780 --> 01:01:38,040
took off you know three of us saw it
1622
01:01:36,659 --> 01:01:39,598
and
1623
01:01:38,039 --> 01:01:41,639
so after seeing something like that even
1624
01:01:39,599 --> 01:01:42,900
at age 10 and you know as you get older
1625
01:01:41,639 --> 01:01:45,358
you kind of go back and you're like well
1626
01:01:42,900 --> 01:01:46,920
maybe I misunderstood what I saw was a
1627
01:01:45,358 --> 01:01:49,619
helicopter or whatever but you know I
1628
01:01:46,920 --> 01:01:52,019
still ask my mom once in a while and
1629
01:01:49,619 --> 01:01:54,119
to me I just can't deny what I saw so
1630
01:01:52,019 --> 01:01:56,759
from that standpoint that's by far the
1631
01:01:54,119 --> 01:01:59,338
most believable you know UFO
1632
01:01:56,760 --> 01:02:00,540
um event otherwise I mean you know you
1633
01:01:59,338 --> 01:02:02,460
look through history there's that
1634
01:02:00,539 --> 01:02:05,338
there's a lot of anything that has to do
1635
01:02:02,460 --> 01:02:07,139
with like fighter pilots or airline
1636
01:02:05,338 --> 01:02:08,400
pilots that cufos are obviously very
1637
01:02:07,139 --> 01:02:11,279
believable because they're trained up
1638
01:02:08,400 --> 01:02:14,099
server I even interviewed us uh pilot
1639
01:02:11,280 --> 01:02:16,619
that was an Air France ballad and uh he
1640
01:02:14,099 --> 01:02:18,240
was 747 at the time pilot he told me
1641
01:02:16,619 --> 01:02:20,519
that he used to see UFOs
1642
01:02:18,239 --> 01:02:21,838
pretty regularly in cross-atlantic
1643
01:02:20,519 --> 01:02:23,159
flights and he's like I'm going to be
1644
01:02:21,838 --> 01:02:25,318
honest with you he's like a lot of us
1645
01:02:23,159 --> 01:02:26,759
have seen him he showed me a map in fact
1646
01:02:25,318 --> 01:02:28,318
of where all the sightings took place
1647
01:02:26,760 --> 01:02:30,180
from like various Pilots that he
1648
01:02:28,318 --> 01:02:31,739
interviewed and it was like it was
1649
01:02:30,179 --> 01:02:33,539
filled it was filled he had all these
1650
01:02:31,739 --> 01:02:35,279
dots everywhere
1651
01:02:33,539 --> 01:02:36,838
and he's like we all see him we all know
1652
01:02:35,280 --> 01:02:38,700
they're there but
1653
01:02:36,838 --> 01:02:39,960
you know we don't lose our job so we
1654
01:02:38,699 --> 01:02:41,279
don't talk about it you know so that
1655
01:02:39,960 --> 01:02:43,500
kind of evidence obviously you know
1656
01:02:41,280 --> 01:02:46,380
extremely compelling and I was reading
1657
01:02:43,500 --> 01:02:48,358
this this article from a science website
1658
01:02:46,380 --> 01:02:51,599
a credible science website where they've
1659
01:02:48,358 --> 01:02:54,480
recently found evidence that there could
1660
01:02:51,599 --> 01:02:57,240
possibly be a life-sustaining planet in
1661
01:02:54,480 --> 01:02:58,858
or planets in other systems that we're
1662
01:02:57,239 --> 01:03:01,558
kind of to a point now where we're
1663
01:02:58,858 --> 01:03:03,179
almost ready to accept that that is a
1664
01:03:01,559 --> 01:03:06,180
distinct possibility
1665
01:03:03,179 --> 01:03:08,219
so if that's a distinct possibility and
1666
01:03:06,179 --> 01:03:12,358
we've done really well in this on this
1667
01:03:08,219 --> 01:03:14,759
planet then there is certainly
1668
01:03:12,358 --> 01:03:17,699
um there's certainly the possibility
1669
01:03:14,760 --> 01:03:20,220
that life is developed quicker and more
1670
01:03:17,699 --> 01:03:22,259
intelligently and more technologically
1671
01:03:20,219 --> 01:03:24,838
advanced in other systems who are trying
1672
01:03:22,260 --> 01:03:26,760
to contact us I have never seen any
1673
01:03:24,838 --> 01:03:30,000
evidence of that but I keep a very open
1674
01:03:26,760 --> 01:03:34,040
mind that doesn't
1675
01:03:30,000 --> 01:03:34,039
that doesn't really scare me
1676
01:03:35,880 --> 01:03:39,660
so most people will tell you that with
1677
01:03:37,500 --> 01:03:41,039
uf4 settings it's pretty random but I
1678
01:03:39,659 --> 01:03:42,719
don't believe that's the case now
1679
01:03:41,039 --> 01:03:44,818
granted a lot of them are pretty random
1680
01:03:42,719 --> 01:03:46,019
you know because it occurs all over the
1681
01:03:44,818 --> 01:03:48,358
world right but there's definitely
1682
01:03:46,019 --> 01:03:50,699
specific areas around the world that
1683
01:03:48,358 --> 01:03:52,558
have a long history of sightings
1684
01:03:50,699 --> 01:03:53,818
and there's still current there's a
1685
01:03:52,559 --> 01:03:55,440
Kazakhstan
1686
01:03:53,818 --> 01:03:56,338
for whatever reason hot in the middle of
1687
01:03:55,440 --> 01:03:58,260
nowhere there's a lot of sightings
1688
01:03:56,338 --> 01:04:00,779
Siberia in the United States you have
1689
01:03:58,260 --> 01:04:02,520
the St Louis mountains St Louis Valley
1690
01:04:00,780 --> 01:04:04,500
I'm sorry which is in Southern Colorado
1691
01:04:02,519 --> 01:04:07,380
which had sightings
1692
01:04:04,500 --> 01:04:08,818
for generations and until and still
1693
01:04:07,380 --> 01:04:10,260
today you have a plethora of sightings
1694
01:04:08,818 --> 01:04:13,259
you have Kettle mutilations a lot of
1695
01:04:10,260 --> 01:04:15,839
related phenomena in a very in a smaller
1696
01:04:13,260 --> 01:04:17,760
geographical area and I think that we
1697
01:04:15,838 --> 01:04:19,500
don't spend enough time going to those
1698
01:04:17,760 --> 01:04:21,920
spots that have a long history of
1699
01:04:19,500 --> 01:04:21,920
sightings
1700
01:04:22,920 --> 01:04:25,680
so you get to a point where your
1701
01:04:24,358 --> 01:04:27,058
research with Bigfoot where you've read
1702
01:04:25,679 --> 01:04:28,739
the books you watch the documentaries
1703
01:04:27,059 --> 01:04:30,599
and you're like I want more
1704
01:04:28,739 --> 01:04:32,519
and then you start looking in the UFO
1705
01:04:30,599 --> 01:04:34,798
world you start looking in not just
1706
01:04:32,519 --> 01:04:36,960
Bigfoot but the bigger cryptological
1707
01:04:34,798 --> 01:04:38,699
umbrella and you start realizing all
1708
01:04:36,960 --> 01:04:40,079
across the United States I mean my
1709
01:04:38,699 --> 01:04:42,179
primary research is in the United States
1710
01:04:40,079 --> 01:04:43,440
but all over the world you're like parts
1711
01:04:42,179 --> 01:04:45,179
of the United States they're seeing a
1712
01:04:43,440 --> 01:04:46,858
goat man parts of the United States like
1713
01:04:45,179 --> 01:04:48,838
in Loveland Ohio they're seeing a giant
1714
01:04:46,858 --> 01:04:50,699
frog man so yeah I think you get to a
1715
01:04:48,838 --> 01:04:52,019
certain level with your Bigfoot research
1716
01:04:50,699 --> 01:04:54,000
where you almost have to start looking
1717
01:04:52,019 --> 01:04:55,739
at the bigger cryptos illogical umbrella
1718
01:04:54,000 --> 01:04:57,659
you have to start looking at the
1719
01:04:55,739 --> 01:04:59,338
Paranormal side of it what are ghost
1720
01:04:57,659 --> 01:05:02,159
hunters experiencing what are they doing
1721
01:04:59,338 --> 01:05:03,659
what are the UFO people doing how do
1722
01:05:02,159 --> 01:05:05,818
they conduct their investigations what
1723
01:05:03,659 --> 01:05:07,500
do they do with Witnesses what problems
1724
01:05:05,818 --> 01:05:09,480
do they have and you realize you're all
1725
01:05:07,500 --> 01:05:12,059
kind of it's different subjects but you
1726
01:05:09,480 --> 01:05:15,179
have all the same issues
1727
01:05:12,059 --> 01:05:18,000
what I enjoy most about both
1728
01:05:15,179 --> 01:05:20,699
cryptozoology and uthology honestly is
1729
01:05:18,000 --> 01:05:24,059
the camaraderie the people in those
1730
01:05:20,699 --> 01:05:25,618
communities are just so enjoy having
1731
01:05:24,059 --> 01:05:27,059
conversations with them and working
1732
01:05:25,619 --> 01:05:28,318
together
1733
01:05:27,059 --> 01:05:30,240
um with them
1734
01:05:28,318 --> 01:05:31,699
there's a lot of
1735
01:05:30,239 --> 01:05:34,858
support
1736
01:05:31,699 --> 01:05:38,279
and um
1737
01:05:34,858 --> 01:05:39,480
and I think that might come from the
1738
01:05:38,280 --> 01:05:42,240
fact that
1739
01:05:39,480 --> 01:05:43,260
often people I think see those of us who
1740
01:05:42,239 --> 01:05:47,578
are interested
1741
01:05:43,260 --> 01:05:50,299
in these fields as a little off
1742
01:05:47,579 --> 01:05:53,400
um maybe like we have disassociative
1743
01:05:50,298 --> 01:05:56,880
associative disorders or something
1744
01:05:53,400 --> 01:05:57,480
um or that we're sad and uneducated and
1745
01:05:56,880 --> 01:05:59,280
um
1746
01:05:57,480 --> 01:06:00,719
and that's really unfair
1747
01:05:59,280 --> 01:06:05,160
in fact
1748
01:06:00,719 --> 01:06:07,980
there's a lot of very smart people that
1749
01:06:05,159 --> 01:06:09,358
are investigating these things and we
1750
01:06:07,980 --> 01:06:10,740
have a sense of humor about this stuff
1751
01:06:09,358 --> 01:06:12,539
too
1752
01:06:10,739 --> 01:06:14,699
um you know we get it that that we're
1753
01:06:12,539 --> 01:06:16,798
discussing things that are like just
1754
01:06:14,699 --> 01:06:18,779
totally out there
1755
01:06:16,798 --> 01:06:22,380
um but that's okay that's part of the
1756
01:06:18,780 --> 01:06:24,780
fun of it as well and uh and I think
1757
01:06:22,380 --> 01:06:26,099
that you know because you can be judged
1758
01:06:24,780 --> 01:06:28,559
harshly for having these sort of
1759
01:06:26,099 --> 01:06:30,900
interests that in a way it almost brings
1760
01:06:28,559 --> 01:06:33,839
you together and
1761
01:06:30,900 --> 01:06:36,480
um it causes you to have some sort of uh
1762
01:06:33,838 --> 01:06:38,460
empathy for each other
1763
01:06:36,480 --> 01:06:39,780
um a connection that sense of belonging
1764
01:06:38,460 --> 01:06:43,380
to a tribe
1765
01:06:39,780 --> 01:06:45,298
as it were uh and that you know that we
1766
01:06:43,380 --> 01:06:47,599
will be there to support and um defend
1767
01:06:45,298 --> 01:06:47,599
each other
1768
01:06:49,500 --> 01:06:52,619
you know a lot of people talk about
1769
01:06:50,579 --> 01:06:55,079
disclosure but they're waiting on this
1770
01:06:52,619 --> 01:06:56,519
like almost like on this Messiah to give
1771
01:06:55,079 --> 01:06:58,440
you disclosure and it's not going to
1772
01:06:56,519 --> 01:06:59,519
happen you know obviously I mean every
1773
01:06:58,440 --> 01:07:01,318
year it's like this is going to be the
1774
01:06:59,519 --> 01:07:03,059
year you know I think we should be
1775
01:07:01,318 --> 01:07:04,619
focusing a lot more on being proactive
1776
01:07:03,059 --> 01:07:06,539
and hitting those areas that a lot of
1777
01:07:04,619 --> 01:07:09,059
people want to go into you know instead
1778
01:07:06,539 --> 01:07:09,839
of reacting you know be proactive which
1779
01:07:09,059 --> 01:07:11,819
is
1780
01:07:09,838 --> 01:07:13,380
in the sense the same way we do Bigfoot
1781
01:07:11,818 --> 01:07:15,239
research where I try to be proactive go
1782
01:07:13,380 --> 01:07:17,880
and get the evidence and found you know
1783
01:07:15,239 --> 01:07:20,279
Bigfoot ourselves and I think whatever
1784
01:07:17,880 --> 01:07:21,420
strange you know phenomena or modalities
1785
01:07:20,280 --> 01:07:23,960
you're dealing with I think that should
1786
01:07:21,420 --> 01:07:23,960
be the approach
1787
01:07:24,900 --> 01:07:31,980
are they are they are they meat eaters I
1788
01:07:27,298 --> 01:07:33,599
would think right and what Hana bear
1789
01:07:31,980 --> 01:07:36,000
go tackle a bear
1790
01:07:33,599 --> 01:07:37,859
cook them up I don't know if I was a
1791
01:07:36,000 --> 01:07:39,900
Bigfoot hunter the first thing I would
1792
01:07:37,858 --> 01:07:41,639
be going after is well what is this you
1793
01:07:39,900 --> 01:07:43,798
know let's do some let's spend some real
1794
01:07:41,639 --> 01:07:45,298
quality time researching what we think
1795
01:07:43,798 --> 01:07:48,538
this thing eats and
1796
01:07:45,298 --> 01:07:49,259
and go where the food is follow the
1797
01:07:48,539 --> 01:07:51,059
money
1798
01:07:49,260 --> 01:07:52,740
like Bigfoot so when you go research
1799
01:07:51,059 --> 01:07:54,539
Bigfoot in the field now occasionally
1800
01:07:52,739 --> 01:07:56,639
it'll be just like a UFO saying when
1801
01:07:54,539 --> 01:07:58,200
you'll get a sightings report somewhere
1802
01:07:56,639 --> 01:08:00,440
in an area and you can follow up on it
1803
01:07:58,199 --> 01:08:02,939
but a lot of times a lot more remote
1804
01:08:00,440 --> 01:08:04,260
than a UFO setting so it's very hard to
1805
01:08:02,940 --> 01:08:06,119
get out there you know in time you know
1806
01:08:04,260 --> 01:08:09,780
and it costs money and time and all that
1807
01:08:06,119 --> 01:08:12,539
the crossover between Cryptids
1808
01:08:09,780 --> 01:08:13,980
and extraterrestrials
1809
01:08:12,539 --> 01:08:18,119
UFOs
1810
01:08:13,980 --> 01:08:21,420
is that there's this meeting of the
1811
01:08:18,119 --> 01:08:25,559
tangible and intangible
1812
01:08:21,420 --> 01:08:28,259
and I love that Nexus where both of
1813
01:08:25,560 --> 01:08:31,140
those worlds meet
1814
01:08:28,259 --> 01:08:35,100
um our understanding of time space is
1815
01:08:31,140 --> 01:08:39,000
expanding our understanding of the very
1816
01:08:35,100 --> 01:08:41,400
structure of the nature of reality is
1817
01:08:39,000 --> 01:08:43,859
almost getting looser and more
1818
01:08:41,399 --> 01:08:46,858
interesting it's expanding as well
1819
01:08:43,859 --> 01:08:50,819
and that means there are just
1820
01:08:46,859 --> 01:08:53,880
perhaps infinite possibilities
1821
01:08:50,819 --> 01:08:55,500
and so if we imagine something to be
1822
01:08:53,880 --> 01:08:58,460
real
1823
01:08:55,500 --> 01:08:58,460
if we imagine
1824
01:08:58,619 --> 01:09:03,838
that we can Traverse the cosmos and be
1825
01:09:01,798 --> 01:09:05,880
at the another part of the Galaxy within
1826
01:09:03,838 --> 01:09:07,979
just a few minutes
1827
01:09:05,880 --> 01:09:10,980
if we can imagine that
1828
01:09:07,979 --> 01:09:14,818
Consciousness exists
1829
01:09:10,979 --> 01:09:17,278
everywhere almost simultaneously
1830
01:09:14,819 --> 01:09:19,199
if science teases that all these things
1831
01:09:17,279 --> 01:09:21,779
are possible
1832
01:09:19,198 --> 01:09:23,338
that there are multiple dimensions
1833
01:09:21,779 --> 01:09:26,339
then of course
1834
01:09:23,338 --> 01:09:29,278
why couldn't there be Cryptids
1835
01:09:26,338 --> 01:09:33,600
walking side by side living right
1836
01:09:29,279 --> 01:09:38,160
amongst us and we have no clue that that
1837
01:09:33,600 --> 01:09:39,600
to me is fun it's like I it's just fun I
1838
01:09:38,159 --> 01:09:40,979
know it sounds kind of ridiculous but
1839
01:09:39,600 --> 01:09:43,560
it's fun
1840
01:09:40,979 --> 01:09:45,419
that makes life really interesting and I
1841
01:09:43,560 --> 01:09:47,759
don't need it to make
1842
01:09:45,420 --> 01:09:49,859
life interesting for me to to be happy
1843
01:09:47,759 --> 01:09:51,539
or to be content
1844
01:09:49,859 --> 01:09:54,420
um
1845
01:09:51,539 --> 01:09:57,119
but it's like science right uh reading
1846
01:09:54,420 --> 01:10:00,480
the latest news in science the latest
1847
01:09:57,119 --> 01:10:03,539
Discovery to me that's fun I love it
1848
01:10:00,479 --> 01:10:05,339
so that Nexus where all those worlds
1849
01:10:03,539 --> 01:10:08,100
meet
1850
01:10:05,340 --> 01:10:09,079
is probably the most exciting thing
1851
01:10:08,100 --> 01:10:12,239
about
1852
01:10:09,079 --> 01:10:14,519
cryptozoology and ufology there's too
1853
01:10:12,238 --> 01:10:15,539
many uh eyewitnesses and it's you know
1854
01:10:14,520 --> 01:10:19,679
they're hard to take a picture of
1855
01:10:15,539 --> 01:10:20,819
because they're you know shy of people
1856
01:10:19,679 --> 01:10:23,279
I was just watching something this
1857
01:10:20,819 --> 01:10:25,679
morning and where they took a print of a
1858
01:10:23,279 --> 01:10:27,599
well we got a baby Bigfoot and like pour
1859
01:10:25,679 --> 01:10:29,520
the mold and everything
1860
01:10:27,600 --> 01:10:32,400
and they're talking about how the toes
1861
01:10:29,520 --> 01:10:33,600
were spread out different than our toes
1862
01:10:32,399 --> 01:10:35,639
are
1863
01:10:33,600 --> 01:10:37,260
pushed in because we wear shoes all the
1864
01:10:35,640 --> 01:10:39,420
time and they're like this is this is
1865
01:10:37,260 --> 01:10:42,300
the evidence of that and it's pretty
1866
01:10:39,420 --> 01:10:46,920
interesting but ultimately I think that
1867
01:10:42,300 --> 01:10:49,020
both Fields encourage us to say yes take
1868
01:10:46,920 --> 01:10:51,060
a look behind the veil and see what's
1869
01:10:49,020 --> 01:10:51,960
there that's exciting there's a buzz
1870
01:10:51,060 --> 01:10:56,340
there
1871
01:10:51,960 --> 01:11:01,260
and living in that mystery
1872
01:10:56,340 --> 01:11:04,079
um I think gives one a sense of
1873
01:11:01,260 --> 01:11:10,219
connection to something bigger than
1874
01:11:04,079 --> 01:11:10,219
themselves and because these fields are
1875
01:11:10,319 --> 01:11:15,840
for the most part non-dogmatic meaning
1876
01:11:13,219 --> 01:11:17,760
unlike a religion or something right
1877
01:11:15,840 --> 01:11:20,159
there there are not
1878
01:11:17,760 --> 01:11:23,520
a set of rules that someone says You
1879
01:11:20,158 --> 01:11:26,359
must abide by this you must believe this
1880
01:11:23,520 --> 01:11:30,000
you can have that spiritual search
1881
01:11:26,359 --> 01:11:31,859
through these Mysteries without anybody
1882
01:11:30,000 --> 01:11:33,719
saying
1883
01:11:31,859 --> 01:11:36,899
um your
1884
01:11:33,719 --> 01:11:39,000
spiritual belief or your
1885
01:11:36,899 --> 01:11:41,119
um sense of wonder
1886
01:11:39,000 --> 01:11:46,560
or your curiosity
1887
01:11:41,119 --> 01:11:50,340
is inherently evil or wrong or bad I
1888
01:11:46,560 --> 01:11:52,140
find it really freeing and um
1889
01:11:50,340 --> 01:11:54,300
you know even if we find out something
1890
01:11:52,140 --> 01:11:56,400
is not true
1891
01:11:54,300 --> 01:11:58,560
that's okay I'm glad that we went on
1892
01:11:56,399 --> 01:12:01,139
this journey together I'm glad to be a
1893
01:11:58,560 --> 01:12:03,239
part of the community and the people out
1894
01:12:01,140 --> 01:12:05,880
there who do this
1895
01:12:03,238 --> 01:12:07,139
um you know it's for me ultimately it's
1896
01:12:05,880 --> 01:12:11,100
all about
1897
01:12:07,140 --> 01:12:12,780
peace and love and harmony and
1898
01:12:11,100 --> 01:12:14,460
um compassion and empathy and caring
1899
01:12:12,779 --> 01:12:19,139
about each other
1900
01:12:14,460 --> 01:12:22,800
and the Paranormal world is a playground
1901
01:12:19,140 --> 01:12:26,940
that says you don't have to have all
1902
01:12:22,800 --> 01:12:30,060
these boundaries that institutions or
1903
01:12:26,939 --> 01:12:32,698
governments or your local culture or
1904
01:12:30,060 --> 01:12:34,739
societies are history has said that you
1905
01:12:32,698 --> 01:12:35,399
have to abide by
1906
01:12:34,738 --> 01:12:37,379
um
1907
01:12:35,399 --> 01:12:41,039
it's like in The Big Lebowski when the
1908
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when the booth dude says the Dude abides
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he's not abiding by the rule of society
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right he's abiding
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by something bigger and it means not
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taking everything so damn seriously all
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the time
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that sometimes you've just gotta let go
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go with the flow and enjoy and um for me
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that's what the Paranormal is it's
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really just letting go and enjoying what
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discoveries or stories I might find
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along the way gosh I would think there
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it's it's always been around it goes
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back to the uh there's a fascinating
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thing with the Cherokee Indians and that
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they would uh put like grains or
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something at the edge of their camp and
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the to feed them and they would come up
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and take them and
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and go back into the woods and it was
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like their peace offering and they would
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protect them and that's there's no I
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mean Indian there's no reason to doubt
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any of that you know and they probably
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have are more
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able to see um because they're less
1934
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fearful of them than the standard him
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especially like a Bigfoot hunter get out
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of here
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I mean you know you know you good luck
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seeing one or you could bring in your
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gun too they're like no way I can smell
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the gunfire I'm out of here I'm not
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gonna get shot
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but I it's I don't know yeah and why
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don't why haven't maybe there has been
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one in captive
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there's no reason to think there
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wouldn't be but I wouldn't think he'd be
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that happy about it
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and I don't know is there a female
1949
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there's got to be female Bigfoot too
1950
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right
1951
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so the UFO world's a much bigger
1952
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Paradigm and you know if you think about
1953
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it a UFO sighting can occur anywhere in
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the world and there's a lot more
1955
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interesting people report those a lot
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more versus the Bigfoot phenomena you
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have to have very specific geographical
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area for SPC to live
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so I think from that standpoint you're
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naturally going to have a lot more
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interest and a lot of more people
1962
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talking about UFOs and aliens and
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and I think people are naturally more
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interested in the whole UFO thing
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because it's about it's about the future
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it's about going out in space and what's
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out there in a bigger picture you know
1968
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Bigfoot doesn't seem quite of his big
1969
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story from that standpoint so I think
1970
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there's much less interest than Bigfoot
1971
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than there is you know and you have
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fallen aliens
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they are a community
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they may be a diverse Community there
1975
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may be some let's not kid ourselves that
1976
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there aren't some fairly crazy people
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involved in cryptozoology and in ufology
1978
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let's not kid ourselves that there
1979
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aren't some charlatans and fraudsters in
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in both these communities but
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essentially most of the people are
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involved whether they're Witnesses or
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whether they're researchers are
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sincere dedicated individuals who are
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intrigued by a mystery and want to push
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the boundaries of human knowledge and
1987
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rightly so and that's what being human
1988
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and being intelligent should be about
1989
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pushing those boundaries asking those
1990
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questions trying to expand
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the the sum of all human knowledge and
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if that takes us into some difficult
1993
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uncomfortable territories well you know
1994
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that's how we maybe make big advances
1995
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through adversity you know investigating
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the Paranormal
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it's like the light on the hill that
1998
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you're sort of looking out to
1999
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um it's not necessarily that that light
2000
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is the answer although maybe you will
2001
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find the answer to the big questions and
2002
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I love asking the big questions
2003
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but it's the journey and so going
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towards the light meaning
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what is out there what is in the
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distance what's behind the veil that we
2007
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don't quite see
2008
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but we if we keep going that way we'll
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get answers along the way
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that's exciting because hopefully we do
2011
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learn about ourselves and I think I
2012
01:16:39,719 --> 01:16:45,060
think we do I think we become more
2013
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accepting and loving and tolerant people
2014
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and forget tolerance accepting people
2015
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because we're entering this weird world
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where
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anything seems to be possible and I
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think that if you're going in with that
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mindset then
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for the most part there are exceptions
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to this rule your your brain is more
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elastic you know you're able to adapt to
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new ideas to keep an open mind and that
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is is the core of the euphological and
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cryptological uh community
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foreign
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