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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:29,821 --> 00:00:32,032 ♪ Soft tense music ♪ 2 00:00:32,282 --> 00:00:33,492 [Serj] [sighs] Okay. 3 00:00:33,742 --> 00:00:36,411 [indistinct background chatter] 4 00:00:37,371 --> 00:00:39,891 [interviewer] So I wanna begin with a... with a simple question: 5 00:00:39,915 --> 00:00:42,626 You've been pursuing justice all your life, 6 00:00:42,876 --> 00:00:45,420 you've been singing about justice all your life. 7 00:00:45,671 --> 00:00:46,797 Right. 8 00:00:48,340 --> 00:00:51,468 [interviewer] So, can music change the world? 9 00:00:52,886 --> 00:00:56,515 ♪♪♪ 10 00:01:02,729 --> 00:01:06,233 [Serj] In 2015, System of a Down played our first show in 11 00:01:06,483 --> 00:01:07,651 Armenia. 12 00:01:11,530 --> 00:01:14,032 We were so excited to perform for our people. 13 00:01:14,950 --> 00:01:18,245 [crowd cheering] 14 00:01:18,787 --> 00:01:22,040 But there was something that was really gnawing at me. 15 00:01:22,499 --> 00:01:25,294 I knew that Armenia's government was corrupt to the core and 16 00:01:25,544 --> 00:01:27,296 needed to change. 17 00:01:27,546 --> 00:01:30,299 And the country's biggest square was filling up with people 18 00:01:30,549 --> 00:01:33,468 waiting to hear what we had to say. 19 00:01:33,719 --> 00:01:35,846 [crowd cheering] 20 00:01:36,096 --> 00:01:37,889 Before the show 21 00:01:38,724 --> 00:01:41,643 I had this sense of calmness that is rare. 22 00:01:42,519 --> 00:01:45,480 And I just looked at the guys and it almost felt like we 23 00:01:45,731 --> 00:01:48,108 were... created 24 00:01:48,358 --> 00:01:49,358 to play that night. 25 00:01:49,526 --> 00:01:51,486 We've come a long way, Armenia. 26 00:01:51,737 --> 00:01:53,697 But there's still a lot of fucking work to do. 27 00:01:53,947 --> 00:01:57,075 [crowd cheering] 28 00:01:57,326 --> 00:02:00,078 I didn't know how long it would take for the reversal 29 00:02:00,329 --> 00:02:02,080 of fortunes. 30 00:02:02,539 --> 00:02:03,739 But I knew that it was coming. 31 00:02:03,790 --> 00:02:07,878 We are System of a Down, and it's our responsibility 32 00:02:08,378 --> 00:02:11,882 to tell you these things and to rock you at the same time. 33 00:02:13,425 --> 00:02:18,388 [loud rock music and cheering] 34 00:02:22,643 --> 00:02:26,188 The Armenian hard rockers System of a Down are political 35 00:02:26,438 --> 00:02:27,438 and popular. 36 00:02:27,606 --> 00:02:28,916 They're a damn good rock and roll band! 37 00:02:28,940 --> 00:02:30,400 [man] System of a Down! 38 00:02:30,651 --> 00:02:31,818 [crowd cheering] 39 00:02:32,069 --> 00:02:33,338 [male reporter] The Grammy Award-winning band... 40 00:02:33,362 --> 00:02:35,131 [female reporter] Sold nearly 20 million CDs. 41 00:02:35,155 --> 00:02:37,115 -[female reporter] Propelled by the powerful band, 42 00:02:37,157 --> 00:02:38,492 frontman Serj Tankian... 43 00:02:38,742 --> 00:02:40,762 [male reporter] Serj Tankian has emerged as a voice of 44 00:02:40,786 --> 00:02:42,537 justice for the Armenian people. 45 00:02:42,788 --> 00:02:44,915 My grandfather's a survivor of the Armenian genocide. 46 00:02:45,165 --> 00:02:47,560 [male reporter] Calling on the world to recognize the forgotten 47 00:02:47,584 --> 00:02:52,130 Armenian genocide of 1915, but also taking on Armenia's own 48 00:02:52,381 --> 00:02:53,548 government. 49 00:02:53,799 --> 00:02:55,879 The people are out there, tired of a corrupt regime, 50 00:02:56,051 --> 00:02:57,594 and they want it to change. 51 00:02:57,844 --> 00:03:00,004 [male reporter] And calling on his millions of fans... 52 00:03:00,055 --> 00:03:01,598 [crowd cheering] 53 00:03:01,848 --> 00:03:03,141 To bring down the system. 54 00:03:03,392 --> 00:03:05,832 Continue your path of peaceful resistance and don't fall into 55 00:03:05,977 --> 00:03:07,813 the traps of provocateurs. 56 00:03:08,063 --> 00:03:12,776 [crowd chanting] 57 00:03:21,284 --> 00:03:26,248 ♪ Soft unsettling music ♪ 58 00:03:51,523 --> 00:03:53,984 This is our living room, and, uh, we're surrounded 59 00:03:54,234 --> 00:03:58,029 by trees and... and love living amongst them. 60 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:01,616 Because of touring, I... I don't get a lot of time to relax on 61 00:04:01,867 --> 00:04:04,995 the road, so when I come home, I like being in a silent place. 62 00:04:05,662 --> 00:04:08,415 So we've got, uh, a Grammy here. 63 00:04:08,665 --> 00:04:10,625 "System of a Down..." 64 00:04:10,959 --> 00:04:14,212 B.Y.O.B, Best Hard Rock Performance.” 65 00:04:14,671 --> 00:04:17,883 They used to be downstairs in my office but that turned into our 66 00:04:18,133 --> 00:04:19,885 son's room So 67 00:04:20,135 --> 00:04:21,803 now they hang out here. 68 00:04:22,512 --> 00:04:23,513 All right. 69 00:04:23,764 --> 00:04:25,056 So that's the closet. 70 00:04:25,974 --> 00:04:27,254 Music was always important to me. 71 00:04:27,476 --> 00:04:30,687 Um, you know, I listened to music at home as a kid. 72 00:04:30,937 --> 00:04:33,648 Let's see what's in here. 73 00:04:33,899 --> 00:04:37,068 But I've been writing poetry longer than I've been playing 74 00:04:37,319 --> 00:04:37,903 music. 75 00:04:38,153 --> 00:04:38,695 So this is '97. 76 00:04:38,945 --> 00:04:40,697 January 8, '97. 77 00:04:40,947 --> 00:04:44,451 So this is... this must be the year we got signed with System. 78 00:04:44,701 --> 00:04:47,078 Poetry, to me, was very important because it was a way 79 00:04:47,329 --> 00:04:50,248 of reaching the truth without necessarily, 80 00:04:50,499 --> 00:04:52,667 uh, reasonable prose. 81 00:04:53,126 --> 00:04:55,754 I had a habit of writing every night before I went to sleep. 82 00:04:56,004 --> 00:04:58,004 That's why a lot of it, I've converted into lyrics. 83 00:04:58,131 --> 00:05:00,759 Oh, here's... here's a... here's an early System song that no 84 00:05:01,009 --> 00:05:02,929 one's ever heard because we've never released it. 85 00:05:02,969 --> 00:05:03,969 It's called "Friik." 86 00:05:04,179 --> 00:05:06,264 F-R-double I-K. 87 00:05:06,515 --> 00:05:07,755 So it goes, "What's my problem?" 88 00:05:07,808 --> 00:05:08,808 Here's my problem. 89 00:05:09,017 --> 00:05:10,817 My problem is that I'm too visual to be blind, 90 00:05:10,936 --> 00:05:14,272 too audiological to be deaf, too idealogical to be in peace, 91 00:05:14,523 --> 00:05:17,275 too compassionate to be in war, too crazy to be sane, 92 00:05:17,526 --> 00:05:20,904 "too sane to be lazy, too emotional to be you." 93 00:05:21,154 --> 00:05:22,948 [laughs] 94 00:05:24,783 --> 00:05:26,928 It's kind of interesting because when [ first started music, 95 00:05:26,952 --> 00:05:30,497 I had no idea of where I would end up. 96 00:05:49,850 --> 00:05:52,352 ♪ Emotional piano music ♪ 97 00:05:52,602 --> 00:05:55,188 My own family came here to Los Angeles, 98 00:05:55,438 --> 00:05:57,941 migrated in 1975. 99 00:05:58,191 --> 00:05:59,943 You can see some of the signs, uh, 100 00:06:00,193 --> 00:06:01,403 written in Armenian. 101 00:06:01,653 --> 00:06:04,990 You can see a sign that says "Little Armenia" 102 00:06:05,282 --> 00:06:05,907 here. 103 00:06:06,157 --> 00:06:06,533 Where? 104 00:06:06,783 --> 00:06:07,993 I don't see it. 105 00:06:08,243 --> 00:06:10,579 Um, trust me, it's Little Armenia. 106 00:06:11,454 --> 00:06:12,734 Right in the middle of Hollywood, 107 00:06:12,873 --> 00:06:14,958 the Armenian community had a school, 108 00:06:15,208 --> 00:06:17,961 a church, different cafes, bakeries, 109 00:06:18,211 --> 00:06:18,962 restaurants. 110 00:06:19,212 --> 00:06:20,213 - Hey! - [man] Hey! 111 00:06:20,463 --> 00:06:21,607 - [Serj] How are you, bro? - [man] Hey, Ser;♪. 112 00:06:21,631 --> 00:06:23,568 [Serj] You know, it was... it was a settlement with Armenians 113 00:06:23,592 --> 00:06:24,593 from all over the world. 114 00:06:24,843 --> 00:06:25,843 - How's everything? - Good. 115 00:06:25,886 --> 00:06:26,469 - Good to see you. - Very good! 116 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:34,144 ♪ Traditional Armenian music ♪ 117 00:06:34,394 --> 00:06:36,813 You know, the different foods 118 00:06:38,273 --> 00:06:40,817 the smells that you'd get walking on Hollywood Boulevard 119 00:06:41,067 --> 00:06:42,067 or Fountain 120 00:06:42,277 --> 00:06:43,403 I mean, look at this. 121 00:06:43,653 --> 00:06:44,237 It's like heaven. 122 00:06:44,487 --> 00:06:45,780 Gata. 123 00:06:46,031 --> 00:06:48,471 Or the yelling on the streets and... and honking for someone to 124 00:06:48,617 --> 00:06:50,160 come down. 125 00:06:50,869 --> 00:06:54,414 All of those are kind of a really beautiful tapestry in... 126 00:06:54,664 --> 00:06:56,666 In my mind as a child. 127 00:06:58,293 --> 00:06:58,960 Mm. 128 00:06:59,210 --> 00:07:00,378 Wow. 129 00:07:00,629 --> 00:07:01,004 That's good. 130 00:07:01,254 --> 00:07:02,005 That looks good, too. 131 00:07:02,255 --> 00:07:03,381 I'm gonna try the same one. 132 00:07:03,673 --> 00:07:06,217 [Serj] When my parents came here, they had zero money and 133 00:07:06,468 --> 00:07:08,219 they did not neglect our education. 134 00:07:08,470 --> 00:07:11,598 From day one, they put us in Armenian school. 135 00:07:12,474 --> 00:07:16,019 And within that community, I made a lot of great friends. 136 00:07:16,269 --> 00:07:19,064 ♪ Soft emotional piano ♪ 137 00:07:19,314 --> 00:07:21,024 After graduating high school, 138 00:07:21,274 --> 00:07:24,277 I got accepted to Cal State University Northridge. 139 00:07:24,527 --> 00:07:26,821 At the time, I didn't really know what I wanted to do as a 140 00:07:27,072 --> 00:07:30,033 career, so I thought I'd do business. 141 00:07:30,909 --> 00:07:33,069 It's while I was going to university that I got a small. 142 00:07:33,286 --> 00:07:36,915 Casio keyboard and started playing it as a way to kind of 143 00:07:37,165 --> 00:07:41,044 relieve my senses from my mind always working, 144 00:07:41,294 --> 00:07:43,922 whether it was on studies or what was going on with the rest 145 00:07:44,172 --> 00:07:46,424 of my life at the time. 146 00:07:47,092 --> 00:07:48,885 I was always very rational, very studious, 147 00:07:49,135 --> 00:07:52,639 very... kind of thinking and the studying mind. 148 00:07:52,889 --> 00:07:55,892 But once I started doing music, I realized that the right side 149 00:07:56,142 --> 00:08:00,063 of my brain can really take off. 150 00:08:00,313 --> 00:08:05,026 [random noodling on instruments] 151 00:08:06,987 --> 00:08:08,655 The first band that I ever played in, 152 00:08:08,905 --> 00:08:10,073 uh, was called Forever Young. 153 00:08:10,323 --> 00:08:11,803 I started playing keyboards with them. 154 00:08:11,908 --> 00:08:14,285 ♪ Rock riff ♪ 155 00:08:14,536 --> 00:08:16,454 The one and only show that we ever played was 156 00:08:16,705 --> 00:08:19,457 at the Armenian Cultural Center in Hollywood. 157 00:08:19,708 --> 00:08:23,086 ♪♪♪ 158 00:08:23,336 --> 00:08:24,629 It was an interesting start, 159 00:08:24,879 --> 00:08:27,160 'cause first of all, we were doing songs in English and in 160 00:08:27,340 --> 00:08:28,675 Armenian. 161 00:08:32,178 --> 00:08:34,139 "Cause that really was our lives as young 162 00:08:34,389 --> 00:08:36,933 Armenian-Americans growing up in Los Angeles. 163 00:08:37,183 --> 00:08:40,353 You know, we were a part of both cultures simultaneously. 164 00:08:40,603 --> 00:08:45,567 ♪ Rock ballad ♪ 165 00:08:46,401 --> 00:08:47,152 [Serj] So while in Forever Young, 166 00:08:47,402 --> 00:08:51,072 we... we were sharing a rehearsal space with another band, 167 00:08:51,322 --> 00:08:53,700 ano... uh, a bunch of friends of ours. 168 00:08:53,950 --> 00:08:57,162 And at one point, they brought in a new guitarist, 169 00:08:57,412 --> 00:08:58,913 and that was Daron Malakian. 170 00:08:59,164 --> 00:09:03,168 ♪ "Waco Jesus" by Forever Young ♪ 171 00:09:03,418 --> 00:09:05,218 The first time we actually worked together was 172 00:09:05,253 --> 00:09:07,380 on a song called "Waco Jesus." 173 00:09:07,630 --> 00:09:10,008 It's a song that we both co-wrote along with the guys 174 00:09:10,258 --> 00:09:11,342 from Forever Young. 175 00:09:11,593 --> 00:09:16,306 ♪♪♪ 176 00:09:16,556 --> 00:09:20,143 And it's the first song I ever recorded as a vocalist. 177 00:09:20,393 --> 00:09:23,188 And the reason I sang on it was our singer wasn't around to sing 178 00:09:23,438 --> 00:09:25,774 and... and I had written the lyrics already for it. 179 00:09:26,024 --> 00:09:30,987 ♪♪♪ 180 00:09:31,488 --> 00:09:34,199 So after working on the song with Daron, 181 00:09:34,449 --> 00:09:35,784 we clicked. 182 00:09:36,201 --> 00:09:38,536 Dave Hakopyan was our bassist in both bands, 183 00:09:38,787 --> 00:09:40,997 so he joined us as our bassist. 184 00:09:41,247 --> 00:09:42,433 - [man] Is it recording? - [man] Yeah. 185 00:09:42,457 --> 00:09:44,626 [Serj] And formed a band called Soil. 186 00:09:44,876 --> 00:09:46,377 ♪ Why can't you ♪ 187 00:09:48,004 --> 00:09:49,964 ♪ Look at me... ♪ 188 00:09:50,256 --> 00:09:52,550 Soil was around for eight months. 189 00:09:52,801 --> 00:09:56,221 And it's in Soil that I started developing my chops. 190 00:09:56,471 --> 00:09:58,139 I was, like, going for anything. 191 00:09:58,389 --> 00:09:59,784 [man] Why did you guys play it so fast, 192 00:09:59,808 --> 00:10:01,184 man? 193 00:10:01,935 --> 00:10:03,454 I was playing music at nights, but still, 194 00:10:03,478 --> 00:10:06,856 I wouldn't admit to myself that that was my calling. 195 00:10:07,107 --> 00:10:09,776 And after university, uh, started working with my uncle in 196 00:10:10,026 --> 00:10:12,237 the jewelry business in downtown LA. 197 00:10:12,487 --> 00:10:15,657 You know, uh, doing trade shows and being on the calls, 198 00:10:15,907 --> 00:10:17,450 taking orders. 199 00:10:18,034 --> 00:10:21,579 And a few years in, I was... I was really disgruntled. 200 00:10:21,830 --> 00:10:23,456 I'm like, "This IS not my vision. 201 00:10:23,706 --> 00:10:25,583 This is not my path." 202 00:10:26,084 --> 00:10:27,794 After a long day of work downtown, 203 00:10:28,044 --> 00:10:31,214 I drove to Long Beach, uh, to take these Kaplan classes to, 204 00:10:31,464 --> 00:10:34,259 uh, learn how to take the L-SAT, and I realized I had zero 205 00:10:34,509 --> 00:10:37,679 enthusiasm for the legal field, even though I thought I could do 206 00:10:37,929 --> 00:10:39,139 it, you know? 207 00:10:39,389 --> 00:10:44,102 And I remember going once or twice and it was horrible. 208 00:10:45,436 --> 00:10:47,230 I... I... I didn't know what I was doing there. 209 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:48,231 I was fuckin' depressed. 210 00:10:48,481 --> 00:10:50,650 It was really late at night, raining like crazy, 211 00:10:50,900 --> 00:10:52,110 and I had an epiphany, I just 212 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:53,360 I got overwhelmed. 213 00:10:53,528 --> 00:10:55,655 My subconscious literally took over. 214 00:10:55,905 --> 00:10:57,657 I slammed on the... on the brakes. 215 00:10:57,907 --> 00:11:01,619 I started hitting my dashboard and going "I wanna fucking do music. 216 00:11:01,870 --> 00:11:03,204 Fuck all this shit." 217 00:11:05,915 --> 00:11:08,251 And from there, my life changed. 218 00:11:08,501 --> 00:11:11,254 ♪ Ambient drone ♪ 219 00:11:13,715 --> 00:11:15,508 [man] 603, take two, common mark. [Clap] 220 00:11:15,758 --> 00:11:17,093 Ouch. [Laughter] 221 00:11:17,343 --> 00:11:19,470 I was playing in a band 222 00:11:19,721 --> 00:11:23,224 off of Verdugo in Burbank at Nightingale Studios where Serj 223 00:11:23,474 --> 00:11:25,143 was at, so that's where I met Serj. 224 00:11:25,393 --> 00:11:27,729 I kind of saw him as a keyboard player. 225 00:11:28,188 --> 00:11:30,332 He was always, like, the elder and he had businesses and he was 226 00:11:30,356 --> 00:11:31,356 doing other things. 227 00:11:31,524 --> 00:11:33,127 He's always done too many... a lot of things. 228 00:11:33,151 --> 00:11:33,735 [laughs] I said "too many." 229 00:11:33,985 --> 00:11:35,278 He's always done a lot of things. 230 00:11:35,528 --> 00:11:38,114 ♪ Soft piano music ♪ 231 00:11:38,364 --> 00:11:41,492 Two weeks later, I get a call from their bass player, 232 00:11:41,743 --> 00:11:43,345 Dave, and he's like, "You know, I'm not gonna be in the band 233 00:11:43,369 --> 00:11:44,579 anymore. 234 00:11:44,829 --> 00:11:46,949 I don't know if... I think they want to play with you." 235 00:11:47,582 --> 00:11:49,667 And I'm like, "What do you mean 'play with me?" 236 00:11:50,126 --> 00:11:52,545 A couple of days... a couple of weeks passed and 237 00:11:52,795 --> 00:11:54,982 we talked and we said, "We're gonna do a different band." 238 00:11:55,006 --> 00:11:55,465 We're not doing Soil. 239 00:11:55,715 --> 00:11:56,341 We're not continuing Soil. 240 00:11:56,591 --> 00:11:58,760 Soil is... Soil was what it was. 241 00:11:59,010 --> 00:12:00,490 We're gonna go somewhere else with me. 242 00:12:00,595 --> 00:12:02,138 "And we'll find a drummer." 243 00:12:02,388 --> 00:12:03,973 So, it was on. 244 00:12:05,225 --> 00:12:07,065 [Serj] Daron's always been a great songwriter. 245 00:12:07,227 --> 00:12:11,064 I was bringing in the lyrics, Shavo would bring in a riff or two. 246 00:12:11,314 --> 00:12:14,192 But I can tell you, I remember the day when John first played 247 00:12:14,442 --> 00:12:15,485 with us. 248 00:12:15,735 --> 00:12:18,738 System of a Down's sound went from this 249 00:12:18,988 --> 00:12:19,988 to this. 250 00:12:20,031 --> 00:12:21,366 Praise the Lord! 251 00:12:21,616 --> 00:12:23,910 Pass the ammunition! 252 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:25,995 God wants you to go to war. 253 00:12:26,246 --> 00:12:30,583 ♪ "War" by System of a Down ♪ 254 00:12:44,264 --> 00:12:45,741 [John] Being that we're all Armenian, 255 00:12:45,765 --> 00:12:47,350 it is pretty unique, you know? 256 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:50,228 Um, not too many people knew what Armenians were, 257 00:12:50,478 --> 00:12:52,522 especially in the United States at that time. 258 00:12:52,772 --> 00:12:54,774 Uh, there were no Kardashians yet. 259 00:12:59,195 --> 00:13:01,739 [Beno] It wasn't just a band playing music. 260 00:13:01,990 --> 00:13:06,202 It was a musical cause taking the stage. 261 00:13:06,452 --> 00:13:09,831 And Serj came with a chip on his shoulder. 262 00:13:14,877 --> 00:13:17,755 Once you're onstage, I've called it the "truth serum" in a 263 00:13:18,006 --> 00:13:20,550 way, because I don't think about what I'm going to say, 264 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:22,385 how I'm going to say it. 265 00:13:22,635 --> 00:13:24,804 I just open my mouth and it comes out. 266 00:13:27,056 --> 00:13:28,433 [crowd cheering] 267 00:13:32,687 --> 00:13:35,231 [crowd cheering] 268 00:13:35,732 --> 00:13:38,359 But all of it comes from a personal place. 269 00:13:40,445 --> 00:13:44,782 ♪ "Bari Aragil" by Rouben Matevosyan ♪ 270 00:13:45,033 --> 00:13:47,201 One of the songs that I remember from my childhood very 271 00:13:47,452 --> 00:13:50,830 vividly is a song that my dad used to always sing. 272 00:13:51,247 --> 00:13:53,499 A song called "Bari Aragil." 273 00:14:03,259 --> 00:14:05,386 [Serj] As a kid, I didn't know what the lyrics meant. 274 00:14:05,636 --> 00:14:10,058 "Bari aragil," uh, literally translated means "kind stork.” 275 00:14:10,308 --> 00:14:13,853 And the stork is known as the bird that returns home. 276 00:14:14,103 --> 00:14:18,483 And so, um, it's been used as a symbolism for Armenians that 277 00:14:18,733 --> 00:14:21,486 want to return home because most Armenians are diasporan 278 00:14:21,736 --> 00:14:22,945 Armenians. 279 00:14:23,196 --> 00:14:25,823 Most Armenians have lived outside of the homeland. 280 00:14:26,074 --> 00:14:27,909 ♪ Emotional piano music ♪ 281 00:14:28,159 --> 00:14:29,887 The reason that the Armenian community is spread 282 00:14:29,911 --> 00:14:33,331 around the world is because of the genocide. 283 00:14:33,915 --> 00:14:36,115 During the first World War, the Ottomans committed their 284 00:14:36,334 --> 00:14:37,919 atrocities, there was a genocide, 285 00:14:38,169 --> 00:14:39,837 one-and-a-half million people were killed, 286 00:14:40,088 --> 00:14:41,464 and those that escaped... you know, 287 00:14:41,714 --> 00:14:44,300 the orphans and whatnot... Made it all the way to the. 288 00:14:44,550 --> 00:14:47,470 Middle East and different parts of the world. 289 00:14:50,598 --> 00:14:52,910 When we were at an age where we could actually understand and 290 00:14:52,934 --> 00:14:55,645 speak about these things, my grandparents explained to us 291 00:14:55,895 --> 00:14:59,273 their family story and how they survived the genocide. 292 00:15:07,740 --> 00:15:10,660 After witnessing the murder of his father and going blind from 293 00:15:10,910 --> 00:15:13,454 hunger, my grandfather eventually ended up in an 294 00:15:13,704 --> 00:15:16,082 orphanage in Lebanon. 295 00:15:16,541 --> 00:15:19,168 So I was actually born in Beirut. 296 00:15:19,544 --> 00:15:23,965 But a civil war in 1975 forced my family to escape again, 297 00:15:24,215 --> 00:15:26,717 this time, to Los Angeles. 298 00:15:28,261 --> 00:15:31,305 The continued denial of the genocide by the government of 299 00:15:31,556 --> 00:15:34,559 Turkey has further fueled this trauma. 300 00:15:42,608 --> 00:15:46,320 And it doesn't help the US government being a NATO ally for 301 00:15:46,571 --> 00:15:50,908 political expediency or to sell them more Apache helicopters or 302 00:15:51,159 --> 00:15:52,535 different economic reasons. 303 00:15:52,785 --> 00:15:54,972 [male reporter] Congress has once again failed to recognize 304 00:15:54,996 --> 00:15:58,207 the Armenian genocide, presumably fearing repercussions 305 00:15:58,458 --> 00:15:59,458 from Turkey. 306 00:15:59,667 --> 00:16:02,587 A sour note for the Armenian community. 307 00:16:02,837 --> 00:16:04,380 - [laughing] Hey, wow. - How are you? 308 00:16:04,630 --> 00:16:07,175 - Such a long time, how are you? - I know, good seeing you... 309 00:16:07,425 --> 00:16:09,194 In other words, we're dealing with a country that has 310 00:16:09,218 --> 00:16:11,721 committed genocide that is not admitting that they've committed 311 00:16:11,971 --> 00:16:12,971 genocide. 312 00:16:13,055 --> 00:16:15,141 And we're treating them like a close ally. 313 00:16:15,391 --> 00:16:16,934 And that is wrong in anybody's book. 314 00:16:17,185 --> 00:16:20,146 You guys are the generation to come up with new ways and new 315 00:16:20,396 --> 00:16:23,566 interesting, uh, empathetic ways of, 316 00:16:23,816 --> 00:16:27,570 uh, having people understand not just the Armenian genocide but, 317 00:16:27,820 --> 00:16:29,947 because of our history and what we've experienced, 318 00:16:30,198 --> 00:16:33,534 having people understand the scourge of genocide in general. 319 00:16:33,784 --> 00:16:37,955 [cheers and applause] 320 00:16:38,247 --> 00:16:39,749 We have a surprise for you. 321 00:16:39,999 --> 00:16:41,799 - [Serj] Okay. - And we really hope you like it. 322 00:16:42,001 --> 00:16:43,211 Okay. 323 00:16:43,794 --> 00:16:44,545 Oh, wow. 324 00:16:44,795 --> 00:16:46,422 A musical number. 325 00:16:58,434 --> 00:17:01,437 [Serj] For me, the recognition of the Armenian genocide has 326 00:17:01,687 --> 00:17:03,814 always been a personal quest. 327 00:17:05,858 --> 00:17:07,068 Amazing, wow. 328 00:17:07,318 --> 00:17:09,195 Before my grandfather passed away, 329 00:17:09,445 --> 00:17:12,823 I made a promise that I would do my best to take this issue to 330 00:17:13,074 --> 00:17:16,202 the forefront of whatever I do in my life. 331 00:17:23,292 --> 00:17:24,460 Wow. 332 00:17:24,710 --> 00:17:27,630 [cheers and applause] 333 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:29,423 You guys are awesome. 334 00:17:29,924 --> 00:17:31,217 [speaking Armenian] 335 00:17:31,509 --> 00:17:33,094 That was beautiful. 336 00:17:33,761 --> 00:17:35,263 That's awesome, thank you. 337 00:17:35,513 --> 00:17:37,306 ♪ Rolicking rock music ♪ 338 00:17:37,557 --> 00:17:39,437 [Beno] A lot of the labels were scared of them. 339 00:17:39,559 --> 00:17:40,643 They didn't get it. 340 00:17:40,893 --> 00:17:43,213 How do you market four Armenian guys that are not scared to 341 00:17:43,354 --> 00:17:45,856 speak their mind, that can polarize people by speaking 342 00:17:46,107 --> 00:17:48,107 about the lack of recognition of Armenian genocide, 343 00:17:48,317 --> 00:17:51,445 about... about politics, about corruption. 344 00:17:51,696 --> 00:17:53,656 -[Serj] Free-thinkers are dangerous! 345 00:17:54,865 --> 00:17:56,200 ♪ "Mind" by System of a Down ♪ 346 00:17:56,450 --> 00:17:57,678 [Beno] And that's one of the things that people really 347 00:17:57,702 --> 00:17:59,328 latched onto as fans. 348 00:17:59,579 --> 00:18:02,665 And so through time, that uniqueness became their biggest 349 00:18:02,915 --> 00:18:03,915 power. 350 00:18:03,958 --> 00:18:07,461 ♪ Need the ones you love and ♪ 351 00:18:07,712 --> 00:18:11,674 ♪ Love the ones you bleed... ♪ 352 00:18:12,383 --> 00:18:15,678 [Serj] By the time that we actually played the Viper Room, 353 00:18:15,928 --> 00:18:18,639 our manager mentioned that he'd love to have Rick Rubin hear our 354 00:18:18,889 --> 00:18:19,640 band. 355 00:18:19,890 --> 00:18:20,890 And we were like, "What? 356 00:18:20,975 --> 00:18:22,852 Rick Rubin might come to see us play? 357 00:18:23,102 --> 00:18:23,686 Wow." 358 00:18:23,936 --> 00:18:25,771 Like, we were blown away. 359 00:18:26,856 --> 00:18:31,277 From Def Jam to, you know, Slayer to everything he had 360 00:18:31,527 --> 00:18:33,487 done, the Chili Peppers and, you know, 361 00:18:33,738 --> 00:18:36,073 it's... we just thought it would be perfect. 362 00:18:37,325 --> 00:18:41,078 So we started playing, and we see Rick Rubin walking in 363 00:18:41,329 --> 00:18:43,497 and sitting right there. 364 00:18:44,165 --> 00:18:48,085 ♪ It'll be all right ♪ 365 00:18:49,754 --> 00:18:54,717 ♪ soft mellow music ♪ 366 00:19:00,222 --> 00:19:02,725 -[both] Hey! [laughter] 367 00:19:02,975 --> 00:19:04,161 [Rick] The Viper Room was packed. 368 00:19:04,185 --> 00:19:06,145 I can remember where I was sitting in the booth. 369 00:19:06,395 --> 00:19:08,540 Sitting up on the top of the booth because it was... you 370 00:19:08,564 --> 00:19:10,964 couldn't ♪... everybody was so wild that you had to be up high 371 00:19:11,150 --> 00:19:12,902 to be able to see anything. 372 00:19:13,152 --> 00:19:15,738 And I remember watching the show and just laughing. 373 00:19:15,988 --> 00:19:18,616 - [laughs] - And I... it was so 374 00:19:18,866 --> 00:19:23,120 extreme and different than anything that I saw before that 375 00:19:23,371 --> 00:19:24,955 the... the only reaction was to laugh. 376 00:19:25,206 --> 00:19:28,584 What it sounded like to me was a combination of ancient folk 377 00:19:28,834 --> 00:19:32,546 music mixed with heavy metal, and I'd never heard that 378 00:19:32,797 --> 00:19:33,797 combination. 379 00:19:34,006 --> 00:19:35,633 And it was thrilling. 380 00:19:35,883 --> 00:19:40,846 ♪ Balearic beat ♪ 381 00:19:41,263 --> 00:19:44,642 [both] [gibberish] 382 00:19:50,981 --> 00:19:53,818 [Serj] This is Rick's house's studio. 383 00:19:54,068 --> 00:19:57,446 Look, we've got machinery, we've got animals... 384 00:19:57,697 --> 00:19:57,988 Molly! 385 00:19:58,239 --> 00:19:58,823 Molly! 386 00:19:59,073 --> 00:20:00,408 [Serj growling] 387 00:20:00,658 --> 00:20:05,037 ♪ Heavy metal music ♪ 388 00:20:09,709 --> 00:20:12,795 So when the record was ready, we went on tour with Slayer. 389 00:20:13,045 --> 00:20:14,765 We are in System of a Down's dressing room. 390 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:16,799 Serj, the resident terrorist. 391 00:20:17,049 --> 00:20:21,595 And that was like bootcamp, to learn how to deal with a Slayer 392 00:20:21,846 --> 00:20:23,180 audience. 393 00:20:23,431 --> 00:20:27,810 There was this one show where we played the first song and no one 394 00:20:28,060 --> 00:20:29,854 reacted to it. 395 00:20:30,771 --> 00:20:33,399 And I think it was Daron's idea to just play the song again. 396 00:20:33,649 --> 00:20:34,859 We're System of a Down. 397 00:20:35,109 --> 00:20:37,236 And whether you like us or you hate us... 398 00:20:37,486 --> 00:20:38,779 They're gonna kill us! 399 00:20:39,029 --> 00:20:40,990 I'm like, "I'm so glad you loved that song. 400 00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:42,600 We're gonna play it for you again." 401 00:20:42,658 --> 00:20:44,994 We played it again and we got their respect. 402 00:20:45,244 --> 00:20:48,998 [cheering and loud music] 403 00:20:49,248 --> 00:20:51,834 That experience basically prepared me 404 00:20:52,084 --> 00:20:53,627 for a touring career. 405 00:20:53,878 --> 00:20:57,631 See, you can play a lampshade and consider yourself an artist. 406 00:20:57,882 --> 00:21:00,718 If you do it right, it there's lights going on and off and on 407 00:21:00,968 --> 00:21:02,261 and off and on 408 00:21:02,511 --> 00:21:05,014 [Shavo] I'm so lucky to be playing music with three of 409 00:21:05,264 --> 00:21:07,266 my best friends in the world. 410 00:21:07,516 --> 00:21:08,809 That's my life, you know? 411 00:21:09,059 --> 00:21:11,079 I don't have to play... 'cause if I had a 9-to-5 job at a bank 412 00:21:11,103 --> 00:21:13,063 like I used to or delivering flowers, 413 00:21:13,314 --> 00:21:16,275 I'd still go home at night and play my guitar. 414 00:21:16,525 --> 00:21:19,236 [Serj] Those first two and a half years of touring is what 415 00:21:19,487 --> 00:21:22,031 solidified System permanently. 416 00:21:23,365 --> 00:21:27,328 Created that one-on-one interaction with people that 417 00:21:27,578 --> 00:21:28,913 became the early System fans. 418 00:21:29,163 --> 00:21:30,498 System of a Down, man! 419 00:21:30,748 --> 00:21:31,832 Wooh! 420 00:21:32,082 --> 00:21:34,043 [Serj] They're the ones that spread the gospel. 421 00:21:34,293 --> 00:21:37,922 We are having our say and we are having our voice on... on 422 00:21:38,172 --> 00:21:40,212 political issues, but they're putting it into music, 423 00:21:40,299 --> 00:21:42,927 which is getting out to loads of people across... across the 424 00:21:43,177 --> 00:21:44,303 world. 425 00:21:44,553 --> 00:21:45,906 ♪ Why'd you leave the keys upon the table? ♪ 426 00:21:45,930 --> 00:21:46,555 ♪ (You wanted to) ♪ 427 00:21:46,806 --> 00:21:47,966 ♪ I don't think you trust... ♪ 428 00:21:48,182 --> 00:21:49,725 We were writing our second record, 429 00:21:49,975 --> 00:21:53,270 in the studio recording the song "Chop Suey."” 430 00:21:53,521 --> 00:21:55,898 So we were writing, you know, the... the lyrics but that 431 00:21:56,148 --> 00:21:58,901 middle, the breakdown part, I was stuck. 432 00:21:59,151 --> 00:22:01,529 [Rick] We went to the library of my house and I said, 433 00:22:01,779 --> 00:22:04,099 "Just pick a book randomly" and you picked a book randomly, 434 00:22:04,156 --> 00:22:06,784 and I said, "Open it up randomly and just point to a phrase." 435 00:22:07,034 --> 00:22:10,329 I couldn't believe it when I put my finger and I read it. 436 00:22:10,621 --> 00:22:13,082 [Rick] The universe is conspiring on our behalf all the 437 00:22:13,332 --> 00:22:16,293 time if you're... if you're open. 438 00:22:16,544 --> 00:22:19,505 And that ended up being the first line of the bridge. 439 00:22:19,755 --> 00:22:20,995 "Father, have you forsaken me? 440 00:22:21,048 --> 00:22:22,108 Father, have you forsaken me?" 441 00:22:22,132 --> 00:22:23,551 ♪ Father! (Father!) ♪ 442 00:22:23,801 --> 00:22:25,719 ♪ Father! (Father!) ♪ 443 00:22:25,970 --> 00:22:29,348 ♪ Father, into your hands, I commend my spirit ♪ 444 00:22:29,598 --> 00:22:34,562 ♪ Father, into your hands, why have you forsaken me? ♪ 445 00:22:35,187 --> 00:22:38,607 ♪ In your eyes forsaken me ♪ 446 00:22:38,858 --> 00:22:42,361 ♪ in your thoughts forsaken me ♪ 447 00:22:42,611 --> 00:22:45,948 ♪ I cry ♪ 448 00:22:46,198 --> 00:22:48,993 ♪ When angels deserve to die... ♪ 449 00:22:49,243 --> 00:22:52,413 [Beno] "Toxicity' was released September of 2001." 450 00:22:52,663 --> 00:22:55,958 And the day before, we were gonna have a show in Hollywood 451 00:22:56,208 --> 00:22:57,448 to obviously set up the record. 452 00:22:57,668 --> 00:22:59,128 It was a free show. 453 00:22:59,670 --> 00:23:03,924 And I don't think anyone knew how big the band was. 454 00:23:05,092 --> 00:23:07,553 [Serj] As were about to play the show 455 00:23:08,637 --> 00:23:10,277 we're told that there are too many people. 456 00:23:10,431 --> 00:23:12,975 This was supposed to be a free concert by the group System of a. 457 00:23:13,225 --> 00:23:15,769 Down, and it did go downhill fast. 458 00:23:16,020 --> 00:23:17,187 Police on horseback... 459 00:23:17,438 --> 00:23:19,478 The fire marshal won't let us on the stage to play. 460 00:23:19,690 --> 00:23:21,084 -[female reporter] Breaking down barricades, 461 00:23:21,108 --> 00:23:23,152 fans tipped over speakers onstage, 462 00:23:23,402 --> 00:23:25,362 took off running with expensive equipment, 463 00:23:25,613 --> 00:23:26,822 and vandalized anything... 464 00:23:27,072 --> 00:23:28,633 [Shavo] They didn't know who the riot was about, 465 00:23:28,657 --> 00:23:29,366 what was happening. 466 00:23:29,617 --> 00:23:30,159 Like, what? 467 00:23:30,409 --> 00:23:31,702 This is all about a band? 468 00:23:31,952 --> 00:23:34,455 [male reporter] Like wildfire, through the crowd and then the 469 00:23:34,705 --> 00:23:35,873 streets of Hollywood... 470 00:23:36,123 --> 00:23:39,585 The newswire circulated nationwide on the eve of our 471 00:23:39,835 --> 00:23:41,045 record release. 472 00:23:41,420 --> 00:23:43,857 [male reporter] Are System of a Down fans taking the message of 473 00:23:43,881 --> 00:23:46,383 political rebellion too far? 474 00:23:47,134 --> 00:23:49,261 I mean, who the hell thought System of a Down, 475 00:23:49,511 --> 00:23:53,682 four Armenian kids, misfits that came together and made music 476 00:23:53,933 --> 00:23:56,393 that never should have been popular, 477 00:23:56,644 --> 00:24:00,022 now we're on CNN and there's a riot because of us? 478 00:24:00,522 --> 00:24:01,815 And that was it, man. 479 00:24:02,066 --> 00:24:04,026 That was the spark. 480 00:24:05,152 --> 00:24:09,448 ♪ When angels deserve to die ♪ 481 00:24:09,698 --> 00:24:12,868 And then, it was like two weeks later and [shaps]. 482 00:24:15,454 --> 00:24:17,098 [female reporter] It is beautiful outside, 483 00:24:17,122 --> 00:24:18,999 perfect September day with lots of sunshine. 484 00:24:19,249 --> 00:24:20,249 Oh, would you look at... 485 00:24:20,334 --> 00:24:21,669 [female reporter] This just in. 486 00:24:21,919 --> 00:24:24,230 You are looking at, obviously, a very disturbing live shot there. 487 00:24:24,254 --> 00:24:26,048 That is the World Trade Center and we have... 488 00:24:26,298 --> 00:24:26,882 [female reporter] Oh, my God. 489 00:24:27,132 --> 00:24:28,217 Another plane has just hit. 490 00:24:28,467 --> 00:24:29,653 [female reporter] Oh, another one just hit! 491 00:24:29,677 --> 00:24:30,877 [female reporter] Oh, my God. 492 00:24:31,095 --> 00:24:32,095 [Serj] It was fucked up. 493 00:24:32,179 --> 00:24:33,239 Like, everything felt out-of-control. 494 00:24:33,263 --> 00:24:35,641 Everything felt like there was no one in charge. 495 00:24:35,891 --> 00:24:37,744 I saw smoke coming out and everybody started running out 496 00:24:37,768 --> 00:24:40,479 and we saw the plane on the other ♪... side of the building 497 00:24:40,729 --> 00:24:42,958 and there was smoke everywhere and people were jumping out the 498 00:24:42,982 --> 00:24:44,024 windows... over there! 499 00:24:44,274 --> 00:24:45,693 They're jumping out the windows 500 00:24:45,943 --> 00:24:48,654 [Serj] I was so depressed by what was going on that it made 501 00:24:48,904 --> 00:24:51,448 me really look into the causes. 502 00:24:51,699 --> 00:24:54,034 What can cause something like this? 503 00:24:54,284 --> 00:24:58,455 [echoing] "Understanding oil, September 13, 2001." 504 00:24:58,706 --> 00:24:59,873 So I wrote an essay... 505 00:25:00,124 --> 00:25:02,876 [echoing] "Why did these people do this horrific act of violence 506 00:25:03,127 --> 00:25:04,211 and destruction? 507 00:25:04,461 --> 00:25:05,689 To be able to understand the answer to this, 508 00:25:05,713 --> 00:25:07,715 we must first look at our US Mid-East policy" 509 00:25:07,965 --> 00:25:12,928 I kind of analyzed what type of dictators and despots have the 510 00:25:13,220 --> 00:25:16,098 US supported over the last 50 years. 511 00:25:16,348 --> 00:25:17,909 [echoing] "What everyone fails to realize is that the bombings" 512 00:25:17,933 --> 00:25:21,145 are a reaction to existing injustices around the world, 513 00:25:21,395 --> 00:25:23,063 generally unseen to most Americans... 514 00:25:23,313 --> 00:25:25,583 The wars waged by our government have landed smack in the middle 515 00:25:25,607 --> 00:25:26,607 "of our living room..." 516 00:25:26,817 --> 00:25:28,777 So I posted it to the band's website. 517 00:25:29,028 --> 00:25:31,363 And I didn't think anything of it. 518 00:25:34,324 --> 00:25:36,952 And then all hell broke loose. 519 00:25:38,996 --> 00:25:41,749 [John] Serj, without discussing it with anybody in the band, 520 00:25:41,999 --> 00:25:44,168 put up something that was really... 521 00:25:44,418 --> 00:25:46,712 It wasn't... it wasn't untrue. 522 00:25:46,962 --> 00:25:48,815 But you don't go to somebody that just had a death in the 523 00:25:48,839 --> 00:25:52,134 family and talk about how shitty that person was to them. 524 00:25:52,384 --> 00:25:54,738 And it certainly didn't represent the way the rest of us felt. 525 00:25:54,762 --> 00:25:56,305 I was really pissed. 526 00:25:56,555 --> 00:25:57,973 The way it came off is "Fuck you", 527 00:25:58,223 --> 00:25:59,391 America. 528 00:25:59,641 --> 00:26:01,369 It's your fault that this happened to your people.” 529 00:26:01,393 --> 00:26:03,103 And that was uncool. 530 00:26:04,563 --> 00:26:06,523 We got banned everywhere, you know? 531 00:26:06,774 --> 00:26:09,610 For the first month of our record release. 532 00:26:09,860 --> 00:26:11,820 ♪ Melancholic ambient music ♪ 533 00:26:12,071 --> 00:26:15,157 Clear Channel sent out a bunch of titles of songs that they 534 00:26:15,407 --> 00:26:16,992 wanted removed from the playlists. 535 00:26:17,242 --> 00:26:19,411 One of them was "Chop Suey." 536 00:26:19,661 --> 00:26:21,942 "Trust in my self-righteous suicide," the... the main lyric 537 00:26:22,081 --> 00:26:23,332 in the chorus. 538 00:26:23,582 --> 00:26:24,976 [Stern on radio] The lead singer of System of a Down 539 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:26,585 is gonna call in, Serj, because 540 00:26:26,835 --> 00:26:28,155 -[Quivers on radio] Oh, wonderful. 541 00:26:28,212 --> 00:26:29,814 [Stern on radio] He wants to explain himself. 542 00:26:29,838 --> 00:26:31,274 That he's just a man of peace and love and he's getting 543 00:26:31,298 --> 00:26:33,008 I remember being in a hotel room, 544 00:26:33,258 --> 00:26:36,386 having to wake up at 4AM to get on the Howard Stern Show and 545 00:26:36,637 --> 00:26:38,764 defend my words and... And... and explain that, 546 00:26:39,014 --> 00:26:40,992 "Look, I'm just trying to understand what's going on. 547 00:26:41,016 --> 00:26:42,643 Everything I've said is factual. 548 00:26:42,893 --> 00:26:45,187 And... and I'd be happy to talk about it." 549 00:26:45,437 --> 00:26:47,022 But I also felt scared. 550 00:26:47,272 --> 00:26:49,191 We were getting personal death threats. 551 00:26:49,441 --> 00:26:51,777 The band pulled me into a room, sat me down, 552 00:26:52,027 --> 00:26:54,822 and goes, "What the fuck are you trying to do to us, 553 00:26:55,072 --> 00:26:56,198 get us killed?!" 554 00:26:56,448 --> 00:26:57,768 And I'm like, "Guys, I'm so sorry, 555 00:26:57,825 --> 00:27:00,244 I'm just... it's... Honestly, it's the truth!" 556 00:27:00,494 --> 00:27:04,039 Like, I was so naive that I thought that because it was the 557 00:27:04,289 --> 00:27:06,208 truth, that it was okay to say it. 558 00:27:06,458 --> 00:27:08,311 [Stern on radio] Did we deserve to be bombed...? 559 00:27:08,335 --> 00:27:09,753 -[Serj on radio] Oh, absolutely not. 560 00:27:10,003 --> 00:27:10,587 [Stern] I think people think that maybe that's what you're 561 00:27:10,838 --> 00:27:12,023 saying, that we deserved to be bombed. 562 00:27:12,047 --> 00:27:13,316 [Serj] Oh, no, man, absolutely... 563 00:27:13,340 --> 00:27:14,692 [Quivers on radio] That we brought it on ourselves. 564 00:27:14,716 --> 00:27:16,319 - [Stern] Right. - [Serj] No, absolutely not... 565 00:27:16,343 --> 00:27:20,472 When I hung up that phone, I remember feeling like shit. 566 00:27:20,722 --> 00:27:23,433 I was playing a line where I was defending myself, 567 00:27:23,684 --> 00:27:26,645 but I couldn't really get into the main issues and kind of 568 00:27:26,895 --> 00:27:28,605 really fight for my words. 569 00:27:28,856 --> 00:27:30,607 And that made me feel really bad. 570 00:27:30,858 --> 00:27:32,234 If... I felt constrained. 571 00:27:32,484 --> 00:27:33,735 I felt 572 00:27:33,986 --> 00:27:36,280 I felt like I couldn't say what I wanted in a well-known 573 00:27:36,530 --> 00:27:36,822 democracy. 574 00:27:37,072 --> 00:27:38,675 [Stern on radio] I don't know what Serj said. Believe me... 575 00:27:38,699 --> 00:27:40,779 [Quivers on radio] He wasn't gonna say what he said. 576 00:27:40,868 --> 00:27:42,720 [Stern] Yeah, I don't know... I don't know what kind of 577 00:27:42,744 --> 00:27:44,305 guy Serj is so, you know, I gave Serj the opportunity to speak 578 00:27:44,329 --> 00:27:46,623 and... and what the hell, you make your own conclusions. 579 00:27:46,874 --> 00:27:49,209 [Rick] That's the true artist's role in society. 580 00:27:49,459 --> 00:27:51,628 That's why we're here. 581 00:27:52,713 --> 00:27:55,257 The things you're talking about are reflecting what's really 582 00:27:55,507 --> 00:27:56,592 going on. 583 00:27:56,842 --> 00:27:58,844 A lot of people just don't want to talk about it. 584 00:27:59,136 --> 00:28:02,055 Not talking about it doesn't make it go away. 585 00:28:02,431 --> 00:28:06,476 So it is... it is our responsibility to push back. 586 00:28:06,727 --> 00:28:09,646 ♪ Soft ambient music ♪ 587 00:28:09,897 --> 00:28:11,332 -[female reporter] Despite controversy, 588 00:28:11,356 --> 00:28:15,068 "Toxicity' has hit number one on the Billboard 200." 589 00:28:15,319 --> 00:28:17,154 System of a Down has arrived. 590 00:28:17,404 --> 00:28:19,465 System of a Down officially announced that they're going to 591 00:28:19,489 --> 00:28:21,450 release 'Steal This Album, a collection of 592 00:28:21,700 --> 00:28:23,035 previously-recorded... 593 00:28:23,285 --> 00:28:25,645 So at the time there was the whole build up to the Iraq War 594 00:28:25,704 --> 00:28:26,704 movement. 595 00:28:26,788 --> 00:28:29,082 Simply stated, there is no doubt 596 00:28:29,333 --> 00:28:32,294 that Saddam Hussein now has weapons of mass destruction. 597 00:28:32,544 --> 00:28:35,297 Alliances with terrorists could allow the Iraqi regime to attack. 598 00:28:35,547 --> 00:28:37,174 America 599 00:28:37,633 --> 00:28:40,135 without leaving any fingerprints. 600 00:28:40,385 --> 00:28:42,113 [Serj] I remember having a meeting with the band and 601 00:28:42,137 --> 00:28:43,513 management. 602 00:28:43,931 --> 00:28:45,909 And they were like, "Okay, well, we're gonna release this other 603 00:28:45,933 --> 00:28:46,516 record. 604 00:28:46,767 --> 00:28:48,685 You know, we should pick a single." 605 00:28:48,936 --> 00:28:52,147 And I'm just holding... Holding my breath going, 606 00:28:52,397 --> 00:28:54,197 "I know everyone's gonna hate what I say now," 607 00:28:54,399 --> 00:28:54,775 you know? 608 00:28:55,025 --> 00:28:56,025 Kind of thing. 609 00:28:56,235 --> 00:28:59,696 And I said, "I think we should make a video for the song." 610 00:28:59,947 --> 00:29:03,784 "'Boom" which talks about bombing people and the adverse 611 00:29:04,034 --> 00:29:08,997 effects of war, uh, and I think Michael Moore should direct it. 612 00:29:09,831 --> 00:29:11,166 Let's just make a statement.” 613 00:29:11,416 --> 00:29:12,626 ♪ "Boom" by System of a Down ♪ 614 00:29:12,876 --> 00:29:14,996 As a Vietnam vet, I do not believe that war should be 615 00:29:15,045 --> 00:29:16,380 fought in America's name. 616 00:29:16,630 --> 00:29:17,910 It's the most ridiculous thing 617 00:29:18,006 --> 00:29:20,509 I'm here because my brother is in the Navy and we want him to 618 00:29:20,759 --> 00:29:21,759 come home alive. 619 00:29:21,802 --> 00:29:23,804 [crowd cheering] 620 00:29:24,054 --> 00:29:27,224 I don't understand why dropping bombs on children is the best 621 00:29:27,474 --> 00:29:29,935 way to achieve peace. 622 00:29:30,686 --> 00:29:35,399 ♪ Why must we ♪ 623 00:29:36,233 --> 00:29:41,196 ♪ Kill our own kind? ♪ 624 00:29:43,448 --> 00:29:46,743 ♪ Boom! Boom! Boom! Boom! ♪ 625 00:29:48,495 --> 00:29:49,538 [Tom] I went to... 626 00:29:49,788 --> 00:29:51,832 I... I think it was an Ozzfest. 627 00:29:52,207 --> 00:29:55,043 I was outraged that there were a I... it was in San Bernardino and 628 00:29:55,294 --> 00:29:58,338 there were a lot of, like, Nazi and white power tattoos in the 629 00:29:58,588 --> 00:29:59,798 audience. 630 00:30:00,048 --> 00:30:02,968 And onstage, almost every band had at least one non-white 631 00:30:03,218 --> 00:30:04,469 member in it. 632 00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:06,447 And I just thought, "That's like a... that's just... that's not 633 00:30:06,471 --> 00:30:07,471 right. 634 00:30:07,681 --> 00:30:09,200 And somebody needs to do something about that." 635 00:30:09,224 --> 00:30:10,785 And I had the idea to form an organization called Axis of. 636 00:30:10,809 --> 00:30:12,060 Justice. 637 00:30:12,311 --> 00:30:13,788 [man] They preach out to a community and to an audience 638 00:30:13,812 --> 00:30:16,606 [Serj] Tom said, "Look, would you be interested in... in... in 639 00:30:16,857 --> 00:30:17,357 talking about this?" 640 00:30:17,607 --> 00:30:19,276 And I said, "Fuck yeah." 641 00:30:19,526 --> 00:30:22,612 [Tom] I think the very first time we met was at an action. 642 00:30:22,863 --> 00:30:27,826 Santa Monica had outlawed people feeding homeless people, 643 00:30:28,660 --> 00:30:30,054 and we were... in defiance of this ordinance, 644 00:30:30,078 --> 00:30:32,873 we were going to feed all the homeless people in sight. 645 00:30:33,123 --> 00:30:34,600 Stewart Copeland goes over to Travis Barker, 646 00:30:34,624 --> 00:30:36,418 taps him on the shoulder and goes 647 00:30:36,668 --> 00:30:37,836 - [laughs] Oh, no way! 648 00:30:38,086 --> 00:30:38,420 No way! 649 00:30:38,670 --> 00:30:39,880 That's awesome! 650 00:30:40,130 --> 00:30:42,674 I had only known Serj as like sort of the painted sort of 651 00:30:42,924 --> 00:30:46,094 hysterical shaman of... of Armenian, 652 00:30:46,345 --> 00:30:47,387 you know, death metal. 653 00:30:47,637 --> 00:30:50,432 Uh, and he was the gentlest soul 654 00:30:50,891 --> 00:30:52,535 maybe in the history of rock and roll music. 655 00:30:52,559 --> 00:30:54,394 This is the Axis of Justice... 656 00:30:54,644 --> 00:30:55,644 Radio Network. 657 00:30:55,729 --> 00:30:56,313 I'm Tom Morello. 658 00:30:56,563 --> 00:30:57,856 I'm Serj Tankian. 659 00:30:58,106 --> 00:31:00,126 And for the next hour, we are going to be spinning rebel jams 660 00:31:00,150 --> 00:31:03,111 of various genres and revealing dangerous truths. 661 00:31:03,362 --> 00:31:04,529 Very dangerous. 662 00:31:04,780 --> 00:31:06,382 [Tom] And that's how we very much saw ourselves, 663 00:31:06,406 --> 00:31:08,726 as... as being social justice warriors and really moving the 664 00:31:08,867 --> 00:31:13,038 goalposts for what ideas could be discussed in popular music. 665 00:31:15,082 --> 00:31:18,460 [Serj] Press gravitated toward us earlier on because of our 666 00:31:18,710 --> 00:31:21,713 political message, and that's fine and that's totally cool. 667 00:31:21,963 --> 00:31:23,643 But one of the reactions that I always got, 668 00:31:23,882 --> 00:31:25,675 especially from the other guys is, 669 00:31:25,926 --> 00:31:27,469 "They're only talking about, you know, 670 00:31:27,719 --> 00:31:29,721 our two, three songs out of the 12." 671 00:31:29,971 --> 00:31:32,516 It takes people like System of a Down to get the word out. 672 00:31:32,766 --> 00:31:34,206 And I think they do a good job of it. 673 00:31:34,267 --> 00:31:37,062 Without them, there would be nobody out there that does that. 674 00:31:37,521 --> 00:31:40,857 We didn't want to, uh, pigeonhole ourselves as purely a 675 00:31:41,108 --> 00:31:42,401 political band. 676 00:31:42,651 --> 00:31:44,891 And we also didn't want the politics to be more important 677 00:31:44,986 --> 00:31:46,947 than the music. 678 00:31:48,573 --> 00:31:50,773 Yeah, we had to have some talks about that and just say, 679 00:31:50,951 --> 00:31:54,913 "Look, let's not alienate half our audience every night." 680 00:31:55,163 --> 00:31:56,483 [Serj] We've got Axis of Justice, 681 00:31:56,581 --> 00:31:59,084 we've got Amnesty International, Darfur Action Committee, 682 00:31:59,334 --> 00:32:01,014 uh, each with their own booths to pass out, 683 00:32:01,211 --> 00:32:04,131 uh, information about causes that people wouldn't necessarily 684 00:32:04,381 --> 00:32:05,549 see at a rock event. 685 00:32:05,799 --> 00:32:07,735 [John] But if you know Serj, he's a... a little bit of a 686 00:32:07,759 --> 00:32:09,094 stubborn guy. 687 00:32:09,344 --> 00:32:12,389 If he thinks he's right, if the entire world thinks the 688 00:32:12,639 --> 00:32:16,101 opposite, he's still right in his head and that's that. 689 00:32:18,228 --> 00:32:20,689 [Serj] One thing our band always did agree upon is, 690 00:32:20,939 --> 00:32:23,733 you know, pursuing recognition for the Armenian genocide 691 00:32:23,984 --> 00:32:27,154 because all our grandparents are survivors of the genocide. 692 00:32:27,404 --> 00:32:29,990 Tonight is not just the 90th anniversary of the Armenian 693 00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:31,324 genocide. 694 00:32:31,575 --> 00:32:32,909 [crowd cheering] 695 00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:35,328 It's also time to break down all the walls of 696 00:32:35,579 --> 00:32:39,332 hypocrisy around the world with all genocides known and 697 00:32:39,583 --> 00:32:40,917 unknown 698 00:32:41,168 --> 00:32:43,503 accepted or not accepted... 699 00:32:43,753 --> 00:32:46,715 It's time to make the Turkish government 700 00:32:48,049 --> 00:32:50,552 pay for their fucking crime! 701 00:32:50,802 --> 00:32:55,515 [crowd cheers] 702 00:32:55,765 --> 00:32:56,975 ♪ Ignition ♪ 703 00:32:58,602 --> 00:32:59,853 ♪ Ignition ♪ 704 00:33:00,103 --> 00:33:03,231 I was making a documentary, um, for British television, 705 00:33:03,482 --> 00:33:05,609 and I had a colleague at the time who said, 706 00:33:05,859 --> 00:33:09,154 "Hey, do you know about this Armenian band, 707 00:33:09,404 --> 00:33:10,947 System of a Down?" 708 00:33:11,198 --> 00:33:13,241 And I said, "Well, sure, but, you know, 709 00:33:13,492 --> 00:33:16,536 I'm working on human rights, political documentaries. 710 00:33:16,786 --> 00:33:18,146 Why would I be interested in that?" 711 00:33:18,246 --> 00:33:20,624 ♪ A whole race, genocide ♪ 712 00:33:20,874 --> 00:33:23,376 ♪ Taking away all of our pride ♪ 713 00:33:23,627 --> 00:33:26,630 ♪ A whole race, genocide ♪ 714 00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:29,799 ♪ Taken away (Watch it all fall down) ♪ 715 00:33:30,050 --> 00:33:34,596 In 2004, you had a movement in Congress to get the 716 00:33:34,846 --> 00:33:36,014 genocide recognized. 717 00:33:36,264 --> 00:33:38,558 - All in favor, say "Aye." - [multiple] Aye. 718 00:33:38,808 --> 00:33:40,477 - Opposed, "nay." - [multiple] Nay. 719 00:33:40,727 --> 00:33:42,437 The ayes have it. 720 00:33:42,687 --> 00:33:44,167 [Schiff] We're over a very difficult, 721 00:33:44,314 --> 00:33:45,607 important hurdle. 722 00:33:45,857 --> 00:33:47,710 We haven't had a, uh, victory in this committee for half a 723 00:33:47,734 --> 00:33:48,443 decade. 724 00:33:48,693 --> 00:33:51,446 But now we're up, uh, against just as difficult, 725 00:33:51,696 --> 00:33:55,575 uh, opposition in getting it scheduled for the House floor. 726 00:33:55,825 --> 00:33:57,452 Uh, this committee received, last night, 727 00:33:57,702 --> 00:33:59,622 a letter from the State Department opposing these 728 00:33:59,829 --> 00:34:00,997 resolutions. 729 00:34:01,248 --> 00:34:03,625 So we're gonna have to fight to get this done. 730 00:34:04,459 --> 00:34:05,627 [Serj] Hello? 731 00:34:05,877 --> 00:34:08,421 At one point, I remember being in Chicago for a show and, 732 00:34:08,672 --> 00:34:12,842 uh, we realized that it's the hometown of Dennis Hastert, 733 00:34:13,093 --> 00:34:14,693 who at the time was Speaker of the House. 734 00:34:14,844 --> 00:34:17,472 We found out that it's back to Dennis Hastert's hands, 735 00:34:17,722 --> 00:34:19,683 the Speaker of the House, to... you know, 736 00:34:19,933 --> 00:34:22,435 it's... it's under his power to... Whether he's gonna allow it to 737 00:34:22,686 --> 00:34:23,913 go to a full house vote or not. 738 00:34:23,937 --> 00:34:27,482 And there's all these claims about him taking hush money from 739 00:34:27,732 --> 00:34:29,109 different Turkish sources. 740 00:34:29,359 --> 00:34:32,028 Yeah, we just decided to ramp up the process. 741 00:34:32,279 --> 00:34:33,655 [laughs] 742 00:34:33,905 --> 00:34:35,240 Hey, way to keep it medium-level, 743 00:34:35,490 --> 00:34:36,074 Serj. 744 00:34:36,324 --> 00:34:38,493 You can't deny the truth! 745 00:34:38,743 --> 00:34:40,328 [crowd] You can't deny the truth! 746 00:34:40,579 --> 00:34:42,289 [man through megaphone] Recognize it now! 747 00:34:42,539 --> 00:34:44,124 [crowd] Recognize it now! 748 00:34:44,374 --> 00:34:46,694 It just so happens that people gravitate more towards the 749 00:34:46,876 --> 00:34:48,461 political aspect of the band. 750 00:34:48,712 --> 00:34:49,855 And when it concerns this, this is, 751 00:34:49,879 --> 00:34:51,548 for us, a personal issue. 752 00:34:51,798 --> 00:34:53,067 - [Serj] How are you? - I'm fine, nice to see you. 753 00:34:53,091 --> 00:34:54,301 - I'm Serj, how are you? - Good. 754 00:34:54,551 --> 00:34:56,303 I'm... I'm from the band System of a Down. 755 00:34:56,553 --> 00:34:58,346 - From where? - From the band System of a Down. 756 00:34:58,597 --> 00:34:59,306 - Oh, yeah, right. - Yeah. 757 00:34:59,556 --> 00:35:00,557 Yeah, great, very good. 758 00:35:00,807 --> 00:35:02,076 We came to your office to give you to a letter. 759 00:35:02,100 --> 00:35:02,726 Oh, excellent. 760 00:35:02,976 --> 00:35:03,976 Yeah. 761 00:35:04,102 --> 00:35:05,102 Did you happen to get it? 762 00:35:05,186 --> 00:35:06,506 Not... I haven't looked at it yet, 763 00:35:06,605 --> 00:35:07,856 "cause I've been 764 00:35:08,106 --> 00:35:09,458 - I'm sure you're very busy. - One of those days, yeah, right. 765 00:35:09,482 --> 00:35:10,501 I'll look at it... I do that usually in the evening. 766 00:35:10,525 --> 00:35:12,587 Well, we've been here meeting members of Congress and some 767 00:35:12,611 --> 00:35:15,488 senators, talking about the Armenian genocide resolution... 768 00:35:15,739 --> 00:35:16,739 Okay. 769 00:35:16,948 --> 00:35:18,092 And the importance to pass it, you know, 770 00:35:18,116 --> 00:35:21,536 regarding our history and the Armenian community and, 771 00:35:21,786 --> 00:35:24,539 you know, how important it is to all of us to face a historical 772 00:35:24,789 --> 00:35:28,752 reality and help get over this with with Turkey. 773 00:35:29,044 --> 00:35:30,712 And everyone's been very receptive and... 774 00:35:30,962 --> 00:35:31,962 That's good. 775 00:35:32,047 --> 00:35:32,756 It's been going great and, you know, 776 00:35:33,006 --> 00:35:35,091 we know that it's in your hands and [inaudible]. 777 00:35:35,342 --> 00:35:36,622 I'll take a look at your letter. 778 00:35:36,843 --> 00:35:37,843 Okay. 779 00:35:37,886 --> 00:35:39,166 - Thank you very much. - Thank you. 780 00:35:40,972 --> 00:35:43,767 Before System of a Down came onto the scene, 781 00:35:44,017 --> 00:35:48,730 we had artists who happened to be Armenian but who did not wear 782 00:35:49,773 --> 00:35:51,691 their Armenian identity on their sleeves, 783 00:35:51,941 --> 00:35:54,152 like Cher, for example. 784 00:35:55,070 --> 00:35:56,613 And suddenly, you see these guys, 785 00:35:56,863 --> 00:36:00,950 who are heavy metal rockers, who are having a huge impact. 786 00:36:01,868 --> 00:36:06,831 I think Armenians in the diaspora craved somebody to have 787 00:36:08,041 --> 00:36:12,754 the power of celebrity to get real political change. 788 00:36:14,172 --> 00:36:18,551 ♪ Joyful music ♪ 789 00:36:21,596 --> 00:36:25,350 [crowd cheering] 790 00:36:26,851 --> 00:36:28,019 - [man] Brains! - Brains! 791 00:36:28,269 --> 00:36:28,978 Brains! 792 00:36:29,229 --> 00:36:30,456 [Serj] Touring was always fun. 793 00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:31,940 [groaning] 794 00:36:32,190 --> 00:36:35,819 [Serj] Going from city to city and meeting different people... 795 00:36:36,069 --> 00:36:38,571 [male reporter] System of a Down is filling stadiums, 796 00:36:38,822 --> 00:36:39,572 sweeping awards... 797 00:36:39,823 --> 00:36:40,156 System of a Down! 798 00:36:40,407 --> 00:36:41,407 System of a Down! 799 00:36:41,616 --> 00:36:42,826 [man] System of a Down! 800 00:36:43,076 --> 00:36:43,827 [crowd cheering] 801 00:36:44,077 --> 00:36:45,429 [male reporter] And changing the world. 802 00:36:45,453 --> 00:36:47,789 [man] Talk to me a little bit about your grandfather. 803 00:36:48,039 --> 00:36:53,002 Your grandfather miraculously somehow survived this holocaust 804 00:36:53,294 --> 00:36:54,294 in 805 00:36:54,462 --> 00:36:55,648 -[male reporter] Just this year, Canada, 806 00:36:55,672 --> 00:37:00,427 Russia, Argentina, and a dozen other countries have recognized 807 00:37:00,677 --> 00:37:01,803 the Armenian genocide. 808 00:37:02,053 --> 00:37:04,180 The Armenian genocide is recognized by a number of 809 00:37:04,431 --> 00:37:06,599 nations in the world already, and eventually, 810 00:37:06,850 --> 00:37:09,018 the US will have to do it as well. 811 00:37:09,269 --> 00:37:11,646 [crowd cheering] 812 00:37:11,896 --> 00:37:13,736 Whe... when you do it for a long period of time, 813 00:37:13,898 --> 00:37:16,693 it... it wears on you, you know? 814 00:37:19,904 --> 00:37:21,823 ♪ Soft unsettling music ♪ 815 00:37:22,073 --> 00:37:23,408 "Claustrophobia." 816 00:37:26,911 --> 00:37:29,831 Losing sight of the eternal garden could be devastating at 817 00:37:30,081 --> 00:37:31,207 best. 818 00:37:31,458 --> 00:37:34,711 What drives me insane are the catastrophic perplexities of 819 00:37:34,961 --> 00:37:37,881 those close souls with whom I have drunk from the pure 820 00:37:38,131 --> 00:37:39,799 fountain of harmony. 821 00:37:40,049 --> 00:37:41,885 "As long as there is a way..." 822 00:37:43,094 --> 00:37:46,431 The whole concept behind bands staying together and, 823 00:37:46,681 --> 00:37:49,517 uh, continuing a long tradition of something is, 824 00:37:49,768 --> 00:37:53,104 uh, I think it's commercially motivated. 825 00:37:53,354 --> 00:37:56,858 And I don't think anything, uh, in life and especially art 826 00:37:57,108 --> 00:38:00,862 should be, uh, put in that much of a format, 827 00:38:01,112 --> 00:38:02,363 you know? 828 00:38:02,614 --> 00:38:03,924 So I personally don't think bands should exist forever, 829 00:38:03,948 --> 00:38:05,241 to be honest with you. 830 00:38:05,492 --> 00:38:07,744 I'm gonna quit the band after this interview. 831 00:38:07,994 --> 00:38:09,913 [laughter] 832 00:38:10,205 --> 00:38:12,665 [Serj] The way I think Daron always saw this band and... and 833 00:38:12,916 --> 00:38:14,918 maybe even the other guys, I gotta say, 834 00:38:15,168 --> 00:38:17,337 is that we each had a role, like a sports team, 835 00:38:17,587 --> 00:38:19,756 is... is how it's been described before. 836 00:38:20,006 --> 00:38:23,092 And that we should each kind of excel at that role and then 837 00:38:23,343 --> 00:38:26,930 bring the unit together as a team to score. 838 00:38:27,180 --> 00:38:28,848 Like, if you want to use sporting, 839 00:38:29,098 --> 00:38:31,059 uh, terminology. 840 00:38:32,519 --> 00:38:34,521 And that's fine if you think of it that way. 841 00:38:34,771 --> 00:38:36,898 And there's some truth to that. 842 00:38:37,148 --> 00:38:39,068 But I've always thought as an artist as more than 843 00:38:39,192 --> 00:38:42,278 just... playing a guitar or, you know, 844 00:38:42,529 --> 00:38:44,409 I'm only supposed to write lyrics or... you know, 845 00:38:44,531 --> 00:38:47,951 as you grow as an artist, you have more to give. 846 00:38:48,660 --> 00:38:49,900 And for me, that's what it was. 847 00:38:49,994 --> 00:38:51,871 I felt artistically stifled. 848 00:38:52,121 --> 00:38:54,958 "The enigmatic loss of vision and its accompanying diverse 849 00:38:55,208 --> 00:38:59,504 avenues of existence caused this lockdown hysteria."" 850 00:39:01,172 --> 00:39:03,212 I told the guys that, "Look, after the next record," 851 00:39:03,424 --> 00:39:05,304 which turned out to be two records, 'Mesmerize'/ 852 00:39:05,343 --> 00:39:07,971 'Hypnotize, ' "I want to do my own thing, take a hiatus." 853 00:39:08,221 --> 00:39:10,157 [male reporter] The announcement has sent shockwaves 854 00:39:10,181 --> 00:39:11,891 around the rock world. 855 00:39:12,141 --> 00:39:15,562 With two number one albums and a Grammy just this year, 856 00:39:15,812 --> 00:39:19,899 System of a Down is stepping off the stage. 857 00:39:23,987 --> 00:39:28,950 ♪ Playing melodica ♪ 858 00:39:31,828 --> 00:39:35,748 From the rainmaker sound to, uh, 859 00:39:35,999 --> 00:39:38,126 a baby Chinese accordion... [laughs] 860 00:39:38,376 --> 00:39:40,420 Splaying accordiond. 861 00:39:40,670 --> 00:39:43,172 Working on my first solo record, 'Elect the Dead, ' was a lot of 862 00:39:43,423 --> 00:39:45,183 fun, 'cause it was a whole different process. 863 00:39:45,425 --> 00:39:47,343 Okay, uh, kalimba. 864 00:39:47,594 --> 00:39:48,970 ♪ Playing kalimba ♪ 865 00:39:49,220 --> 00:39:51,806 I'm making a rock record without a rock band. 866 00:39:52,056 --> 00:39:55,018 Splaying instrumentdd. 867 00:39:55,268 --> 00:39:57,079 So it... it doesn't sound great without really being 868 00:39:57,103 --> 00:39:58,438 hooked up. 869 00:39:58,688 --> 00:40:00,374 You throw a little delay pedal on there and... and some phaser 870 00:40:00,398 --> 00:40:02,150 and stuff and it sounds phenomenal. 871 00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:03,760 It's great for composing, really... 872 00:40:03,902 --> 00:40:05,302 Now, I'm writing every aspect of it. 873 00:40:05,403 --> 00:40:07,572 I'm writing, you know, the rhythmical patterns for the 874 00:40:07,822 --> 00:40:08,948 drums, the bass lines... 875 00:40:09,198 --> 00:40:10,825 That's the pianos. 876 00:40:12,076 --> 00:40:14,662 So I started with that, with just the pianos. 877 00:40:14,913 --> 00:40:17,999 ♪ Piano riff ♪ 878 00:40:18,249 --> 00:40:20,019 And... and most of the songs are written either on 879 00:40:20,043 --> 00:40:22,253 acoustic guitar or piano with vocals, 880 00:40:22,503 --> 00:40:23,838 uh, to start with. 881 00:40:24,088 --> 00:40:26,007 And then just building up. 882 00:40:26,925 --> 00:40:28,593 And then brought in the vocals. 883 00:40:28,843 --> 00:40:31,387 ♪ Pretentious attention ♪ 884 00:40:31,638 --> 00:40:34,057 ♪ Dismissive apprehension ♪ 885 00:40:34,307 --> 00:40:38,853 ♪ Don't waste your time on coffins today... ♪ 886 00:40:39,103 --> 00:40:40,983 And just, you know, tracking the whole thing and 887 00:40:41,064 --> 00:40:43,504 then bringing live musicians to replace some of the stuff that 888 00:40:43,733 --> 00:40:45,276 I've performed on. 889 00:40:46,653 --> 00:40:51,240 ♪ Don't waste your time on coffins today... ♪ 890 00:40:51,491 --> 00:40:53,034 It's... it's... it's invigorating. 891 00:40:53,284 --> 00:40:54,702 It's emancipating. 892 00:40:54,953 --> 00:40:56,273 ♪ Desolate and full of yearning ♪ 893 00:40:56,329 --> 00:40:57,664 ♪ Dying of anticipation ♪ 894 00:40:57,914 --> 00:40:59,207 ♪ Choking from intoxication ♪ 895 00:40:59,457 --> 00:41:01,057 ♪ Don't you see their bodies burning? ♪ 896 00:41:01,167 --> 00:41:04,003 I remember that there was this one point in the recording 897 00:41:04,253 --> 00:41:08,091 studio by myself, listening back to some of the tracks. 898 00:41:08,341 --> 00:41:09,821 I was, like, running around and, like, 899 00:41:09,926 --> 00:41:12,637 really amped into it by myself, which probably would look 900 00:41:12,887 --> 00:41:14,487 ridiculous if you saw someone doing that. 901 00:41:14,681 --> 00:41:16,015 Insane. 902 00:41:16,265 --> 00:41:19,060 But that's when I really knew that the music would connect. 903 00:41:19,310 --> 00:41:23,106 And rock is a unique delivery mechanism for rebellion. 904 00:41:23,356 --> 00:41:24,876 ♪ Don't you see their bodies burning? ♪ 905 00:41:24,941 --> 00:41:26,221 ♪ Desolate and full of yearning ♪ 906 00:41:26,317 --> 00:41:27,652 ♪ Dying of anticipation ♪ 907 00:41:27,902 --> 00:41:29,112 ♪ Choking from intoxication ♪ 908 00:41:29,362 --> 00:41:30,881 ♪ Don't you see their bodies burning? ♪ 909 00:41:30,905 --> 00:41:32,323 ♪ Desolate and full of yearning... ♪ 910 00:41:32,573 --> 00:41:34,283 "Empty Walls" actually, you know, 911 00:41:34,534 --> 00:41:38,329 had a lot of radio play and we made this incredible video. 912 00:41:38,579 --> 00:41:42,875 There was a reenactment of 9/11 with kids and the Abu Ghraib 913 00:41:43,126 --> 00:41:44,126 situation. 914 00:41:44,293 --> 00:41:48,297 ♪ Taunt you to see from behind those empty walls ♪ 915 00:41:48,548 --> 00:41:52,343 ♪ I want you to be left behind... ♪ 916 00:41:52,593 --> 00:41:54,473 And then, I got an offer to do something with an 917 00:41:54,512 --> 00:41:56,931 orchestra and I... I was bewildered by that. 918 00:41:57,181 --> 00:41:59,559 I was like, "Wow, that could be really interesting." 919 00:42:00,810 --> 00:42:05,273 So, uh, I was able to rearrange my music from 'Elect the Dead' 920 00:42:05,523 --> 00:42:07,567 and create a symphonic version of it. 921 00:42:07,817 --> 00:42:09,777 And it turned into 'Elect the Dead' symphony. 922 00:42:10,028 --> 00:42:14,991 ♪ I want you to be left behind those empty walls ♪ 923 00:42:17,535 --> 00:42:21,122 ♪ Taunt you to see ♪ 924 00:42:21,372 --> 00:42:23,916 ♪ Left behind those empty walls ♪ 925 00:42:24,167 --> 00:42:27,336 ♪ Taunt you to seed ♪ 926 00:42:27,587 --> 00:42:30,715 ♪ From behind those empty walls ♪ 927 00:42:30,965 --> 00:42:33,801 ♪ From behind those fucking walls ♪ 928 00:42:34,052 --> 00:42:35,386 ♪ From behind those... ♪ 929 00:42:35,636 --> 00:42:38,036 [male reporter] System of a Down's frontman Serj Tankian and 930 00:42:38,181 --> 00:42:41,100 his Serjical Strike Records have hit a little smooth sailing. 931 00:42:41,350 --> 00:42:44,395 So next year, Serj and his label will release several projects, 932 00:42:44,645 --> 00:42:47,315 including Kittens for Christian and avant-garde goth art punk 933 00:42:47,565 --> 00:42:48,858 band... 934 00:42:49,108 --> 00:42:49,734 [Serj] We had signed this amazing band called Fair to. 935 00:42:49,984 --> 00:42:51,319 Midland out of Texas. 936 00:42:51,569 --> 00:42:53,380 Serj says he'll put out five albums a year and continue to 937 00:42:53,404 --> 00:42:54,947 sign bands that inspire him. 938 00:42:55,198 --> 00:42:56,449 [claps] 939 00:42:56,699 --> 00:42:58,761 And there were a number of record companies interested, 940 00:42:58,785 --> 00:43:01,996 and through Atlantic, uh, the head of Atlantic Records at the 941 00:43:02,246 --> 00:43:05,333 time, I got a, you know, unexpected visit with, 942 00:43:05,583 --> 00:43:08,377 uh, the old, uh, co-chair, you know, 943 00:43:08,628 --> 00:43:12,215 the old CEO, Ahmet Ertegun, who was Turkish. 944 00:43:14,258 --> 00:43:16,844 So we sat down and had a great conversation about music and... 945 00:43:17,095 --> 00:43:19,764 And how much I appreciated the bands that he had signed like. 946 00:43:20,014 --> 00:43:21,349 Zeppelin and... And Ray and, like, 947 00:43:21,599 --> 00:43:22,850 all this stuff. 948 00:43:23,101 --> 00:43:25,245 And then, on my way home, I just... something... there was an 949 00:43:25,269 --> 00:43:29,190 inkling feeling inside of me that I needed to kind of ex... 950 00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:32,360 Uh, figure out what it was and I typed his name, 951 00:43:32,610 --> 00:43:35,363 Ahmet Ertegun, and I put the world "genocide" behind it and. 952 00:43:35,613 --> 00:43:39,784 Googled it, and I realized that he had paid for a lot of foreign 953 00:43:40,034 --> 00:43:44,914 policy think tanks and trusts that were encouraging Congress 954 00:43:45,164 --> 00:43:47,792 not to recognize the Armenian genocide. 955 00:43:48,751 --> 00:43:53,005 He had also paid for chairs at universities that had encouraged 956 00:43:53,256 --> 00:43:55,424 scholars, uh, so-called scholars, 957 00:43:55,675 --> 00:43:57,426 uh, that would deny the Armenian genocide. 958 00:43:57,677 --> 00:43:59,887 Now, this became a big problem, uh, 959 00:44:00,138 --> 00:44:03,641 for me personally, uh, and for the band ultimately. 960 00:44:04,851 --> 00:44:07,061 And then, you know, at that time, 961 00:44:07,311 --> 00:44:11,190 I got news from a very reliable source that there possibly could 962 00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:16,195 be Turkish intelligence sources looking at me to assassinate me, 963 00:44:16,445 --> 00:44:19,490 uh, because of my activism against Dennis Hastert. 964 00:44:19,740 --> 00:44:23,411 Art can be very dangerous, um, which is why tyrants and 965 00:44:23,661 --> 00:44:27,081 tyrannical states love to clamp down on artists. 966 00:44:27,331 --> 00:44:29,208 Um, in February... 967 00:44:29,458 --> 00:44:32,628 There are many situations in life where you don't expect, 968 00:44:32,879 --> 00:44:36,632 you know, something that... that is political or that is social 969 00:44:36,883 --> 00:44:39,218 to interact with the business that you do or with the other 970 00:44:39,468 --> 00:44:40,761 work that you do. 971 00:44:41,012 --> 00:44:44,265 And somehow, it pops up and it challenges your kind of... the... 972 00:44:44,515 --> 00:44:47,268 The narrative of your moral compass. 973 00:44:48,895 --> 00:44:52,064 In the end, we ended up not working with Ahmet Ertegun. 974 00:44:53,482 --> 00:44:56,652 I wanted to talk to you about the latest in terms of genocide 975 00:44:56,903 --> 00:44:58,279 recognition in the US. 976 00:44:58,529 --> 00:45:02,283 Both the Senate and the House introduced new legislation. 977 00:45:02,533 --> 00:45:05,286 It's not just US recognition of the genocide, 978 00:45:05,536 --> 00:45:07,246 it's also a matter of prevention of... 979 00:45:07,496 --> 00:45:10,875 - Right. - Of just genocides in general. 980 00:45:11,125 --> 00:45:15,129 I want us all to put up our right arms in protest, 981 00:45:15,379 --> 00:45:16,881 and I want us all to say... 982 00:45:17,131 --> 00:45:21,677 [all] As President, I will recognize the Armenian genocide! 983 00:45:21,928 --> 00:45:23,512 As President, I will recognize... 984 00:45:23,763 --> 00:45:25,908 [male reporter] Barack Obama has joined a long line of. 985 00:45:25,932 --> 00:45:28,684 Presidents who broke their campaign promise to recognize 986 00:45:28,935 --> 00:45:30,895 the Armenian genocide. 987 00:45:33,189 --> 00:45:37,777 ♪ Pensive electronic music ♪ 988 00:45:38,361 --> 00:45:41,697 Social media has given unadulterated access for 989 00:45:41,948 --> 00:45:43,783 artists, uh, directly to their fanbase, 990 00:45:44,033 --> 00:45:45,493 which didn't exist before. 991 00:45:45,743 --> 00:45:48,204 That's one of the positive aspects for me about it. 992 00:45:48,579 --> 00:45:50,122 But it also allowed me, as an activist, 993 00:45:50,373 --> 00:45:51,999 to express myself. 994 00:45:52,250 --> 00:45:54,228 [echoing] "We have a lot to learn from the Chilean students 995 00:45:54,252 --> 00:45:55,492 protesting here in Santiago" 996 00:45:55,586 --> 00:45:58,923 "I hope the Occupy Wall Street movement truly turns into a 997 00:45:59,173 --> 00:46:00,424 political force" 998 00:46:00,675 --> 00:46:01,384 "I support the Global Zero movement to eliminate all 999 00:46:01,634 --> 00:46:02,927 nuclear weapons by 2030" 1000 00:46:03,177 --> 00:46:06,347 I was thrilled to see the impact I was making on so many issues 1001 00:46:06,597 --> 00:46:07,848 across the world. 1002 00:46:08,099 --> 00:46:09,576 [echoing] "I'm appalled by Obama's closeness to this 1003 00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:11,411 hypocrite named Erdogan, Turkey's Prime Minister..." 1004 00:46:11,435 --> 00:46:12,746 Of course, there was the other side of this, 1005 00:46:12,770 --> 00:46:13,770 loo. 1006 00:46:13,813 --> 00:46:15,398 ♪ Emotional piano music ♪ 1007 00:46:15,648 --> 00:46:17,608 As time went by and System of a Down didn't make a 1008 00:46:17,775 --> 00:46:21,404 record, there was a, uh, growing disgruntlement, 1009 00:46:21,654 --> 00:46:24,949 uh, among fans to get a new System record. 1010 00:46:34,875 --> 00:46:36,377 [laughs] 1011 00:46:36,627 --> 00:46:38,587 I love the fact the he represents the entire metal 1012 00:46:38,796 --> 00:46:40,423 community, or she. 1013 00:46:48,431 --> 00:46:49,974 ♪♪♪ 1014 00:46:50,224 --> 00:46:52,435 I don't want to come across that I know everything 1015 00:46:52,685 --> 00:46:54,645 and... and... and whatnot, but, you know, 1016 00:46:54,895 --> 00:46:57,857 whatever statement I make is based on an injustice occurring 1017 00:46:58,107 --> 00:47:00,568 somewhere that I want to rectify. 1018 00:47:00,818 --> 00:47:03,195 And whether I'm right or wrong to do it is... is... is another 1019 00:47:03,446 --> 00:47:04,196 factor. 1020 00:47:04,447 --> 00:47:05,197 But I need to do it. 1021 00:47:05,448 --> 00:47:06,782 It's... it's... it's the truth. 1022 00:47:07,033 --> 00:47:08,073 Like, it's gotta come out. 1023 00:47:08,242 --> 00:47:09,285 And same with justice. 1024 00:47:09,535 --> 00:47:12,621 I feel like the environmental balance that is, 1025 00:47:12,872 --> 00:47:16,792 you know, that we're seeing in... in... in climate change is, 1026 00:47:17,043 --> 00:47:21,464 uh, also indicative of the human imbalance that is existing due 1027 00:47:21,714 --> 00:47:24,842 to wars, profits over people, and all of this stuff. 1028 00:47:25,092 --> 00:47:28,596 We have to change our ways in every way for us to survive. 1029 00:47:28,846 --> 00:47:29,846 [laughs] 1030 00:47:30,056 --> 00:47:31,658 Uh, both in the spiritual world and in the 1031 00:47:31,682 --> 00:47:32,682 physical world. 1032 00:47:32,725 --> 00:47:34,435 They're all mirrors of each other. 1033 00:47:34,685 --> 00:47:35,978 ♪ "Harakiri" by Serj Tankian ♪ 1034 00:47:36,228 --> 00:47:36,854 [Reagan] We are at war with the most dangerous enemy 1035 00:47:37,104 --> 00:47:39,023 that has ever faced mankind in his long climb... 1036 00:47:39,273 --> 00:47:41,251 [Serj] With 'Harakiri, ' I took on a whole new set of 1037 00:47:41,275 --> 00:47:42,275 political issues. 1038 00:47:42,443 --> 00:47:43,110 [Reagan] There's no place to escape to. 1039 00:47:43,361 --> 00:47:45,404 This is the last stand on Earth. 1040 00:47:45,654 --> 00:47:48,449 [Serj] From corporate greed to climate change. 1041 00:47:48,699 --> 00:47:51,827 ♪ We're the day birds ♪ 1042 00:47:52,078 --> 00:47:55,331 ♪ Deciding to fly against the sky ♪ 1043 00:47:55,581 --> 00:47:56,624 ♪ Within our dreams... ♪ 1044 00:47:56,874 --> 00:48:00,252 But a voice for justice always needs to evolve. 1045 00:48:00,503 --> 00:48:03,255 So, I began to experiment. 1046 00:48:04,382 --> 00:48:07,093 I did 'Orca, ' which was my first symphony. 1047 00:48:10,096 --> 00:48:11,847 "I did 'Jazz is Christ," a jazz record, 1048 00:48:12,098 --> 00:48:14,266 with a bunch of really amazing musicians. 1049 00:48:14,517 --> 00:48:17,269 ♪ Jazz noodling on keys ♪ 1050 00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:20,314 I did a musical called 'Prometheus Bound.' 1051 00:48:21,524 --> 00:48:24,568 And I also started painting for the first time. 1052 00:48:25,694 --> 00:48:27,488 All of my paintings are musically scored, 1053 00:48:27,738 --> 00:48:28,739 like a film. 1054 00:48:28,989 --> 00:48:30,509 For example, the first piece that I ever did, 1055 00:48:30,533 --> 00:48:32,386 you can actually read the music of the first measure. 1056 00:48:32,410 --> 00:48:33,410 And it's a piano piece. 1057 00:48:33,577 --> 00:48:34,930 It's a beautiful, haunting piano piece. 1058 00:48:34,954 --> 00:48:36,455 And I've always thought, like films, 1059 00:48:36,705 --> 00:48:38,958 how would one score a series of paintings? 1060 00:48:39,208 --> 00:48:42,294 So I started [clears throat] inserting speakers and MP3 1061 00:48:42,545 --> 00:48:44,672 players within the actual, uh, painting. 1062 00:48:44,922 --> 00:48:47,174 So you've got two speakers on the sides, 1063 00:48:47,425 --> 00:48:48,717 stereo speakers... 1064 00:48:48,968 --> 00:48:51,554 And I got lost in that world and it became another new artistic 1065 00:48:51,804 --> 00:48:52,972 expression. 1066 00:48:54,265 --> 00:48:56,410 Doing all this stuff and coming into my own and feeling 1067 00:48:56,434 --> 00:48:58,936 confident of myself as a songwriter, 1068 00:48:59,186 --> 00:49:00,688 uh, as a composer... 1069 00:49:00,938 --> 00:49:02,481 That sounds much better. 1070 00:49:02,731 --> 00:49:05,526 Uh, it really kind of changed the way that I looked at System 1071 00:49:05,776 --> 00:49:09,697 again, to a point where, when there was that opening for us to 1072 00:49:09,947 --> 00:49:13,701 discuss touring together again, I was way more open to it and... 1073 00:49:13,951 --> 00:49:16,271 And be like "Okay, well, I've done all these things and I'm 1074 00:49:16,412 --> 00:49:17,955 gonna continue doing all these things, 1075 00:49:18,205 --> 00:49:20,016 but if you guys wanna play some music together, 1076 00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:21,417 I think that might be really fun." 1077 00:49:21,667 --> 00:49:22,667 Hello. 1078 00:49:22,793 --> 00:49:23,335 Just want to say hi. 1079 00:49:23,586 --> 00:49:24,336 Hi. 1080 00:49:24,587 --> 00:49:26,187 - [Serj] Serj. - Michael, nice to meet you. 1081 00:49:26,380 --> 00:49:27,380 [giggling] 1082 00:49:27,590 --> 00:49:31,594 [cheering] 1083 00:49:33,804 --> 00:49:35,389 We are [inaudible]! 1084 00:49:35,639 --> 00:49:36,639 We're System of a Down! 1085 00:49:36,849 --> 00:49:37,849 [inaudible]! 1086 00:49:38,017 --> 00:49:39,393 [crowd cheering] 1087 00:49:39,643 --> 00:49:40,936 So I shot everything. 1088 00:49:41,187 --> 00:49:41,729 [man] Whoa. 1089 00:49:41,979 --> 00:49:43,147 [woman] Yo, watch out! 1090 00:49:43,397 --> 00:49:44,607 [laughter] 1091 00:49:44,857 --> 00:49:46,525 [Serj] I strapped a camera on my head 1092 00:49:46,775 --> 00:49:48,611 I just blinded you with science. 1093 00:49:48,861 --> 00:49:51,572 [man] ♪ She blinded me with science ♪ 1094 00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:53,782 [Serj] I had spy glasses... 1095 00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:55,576 These are skinny mirrors. 1096 00:49:55,826 --> 00:49:57,995 If you are skinny, you will be skinnier. 1097 00:49:58,245 --> 00:49:58,787 How are you, man? 1098 00:49:59,038 --> 00:50:00,182 - How are you? - Everything cool? 1099 00:50:00,206 --> 00:50:01,433 - [Serj] Good to see you again. - Sounds good in the house. 1100 00:50:01,457 --> 00:50:03,751 -[Serj] Great, thank you. Thanks for everything. 1101 00:50:04,001 --> 00:50:07,004 I... I think the reason that I wanted to shoot all of that 1102 00:50:07,254 --> 00:50:11,258 was because, irrespective of feeling confident coming back to 1103 00:50:11,509 --> 00:50:15,596 the System camp, there was still some lingering insecurities 1104 00:50:15,846 --> 00:50:16,846 and... and fears. 1105 00:50:17,056 --> 00:50:18,056 You fuckin' fuck. 1106 00:50:18,265 --> 00:50:18,807 [laughter] 1107 00:50:19,058 --> 00:50:20,392 [inaudible] over your head. 1108 00:50:20,643 --> 00:50:23,979 [Serj] So I think by having a camera in the middle to be able 1109 00:50:24,230 --> 00:50:28,275 to look through kind of gave me the perspective that I needed to 1110 00:50:28,526 --> 00:50:31,862 more comfortably and unemotionally reconnect with my 1111 00:50:32,112 --> 00:50:33,614 past and with my band. 1112 00:50:33,864 --> 00:50:36,575 [crowd cheering] 1113 00:50:38,869 --> 00:50:40,287 That was a such a great show. 1114 00:50:40,538 --> 00:50:42,581 That felt like a badass fucking show. 1115 00:50:42,831 --> 00:50:43,831 Woo! 1116 00:50:44,041 --> 00:50:45,521 My girlfriend Ang was on tour with me. 1117 00:50:45,668 --> 00:50:47,086 Hold on, hold on, hold on. 1118 00:50:48,671 --> 00:50:49,213 Okay, got it. 1119 00:50:49,463 --> 00:50:51,215 [Serj] And George, my manager. 1120 00:50:51,465 --> 00:50:52,865 I tried to come here two hours late. 1121 00:50:52,925 --> 00:50:54,677 I only got here an hour late. [Laughter] 1122 00:50:54,927 --> 00:50:55,469 I'm so disappointed. 1123 00:50:55,719 --> 00:50:57,096 You know, it was just like 1124 00:50:57,346 --> 00:50:59,265 w... we just... we were having so much fun. 1125 00:50:59,515 --> 00:51:03,227 ♪ Joyful music ♪ 1126 00:51:05,563 --> 00:51:06,814 [inaudible]. 1127 00:51:07,064 --> 00:51:08,899 Look at that view of Jordan. 1128 00:51:09,567 --> 00:51:12,903 And I also filmed my family as we went back to Lebanon. 1129 00:51:16,574 --> 00:51:19,014 We visited the orphanage that took in my grandfather after the 1130 00:51:19,118 --> 00:51:20,536 genocide. 1131 00:51:22,037 --> 00:51:24,057 We went back to the home we lived in before moving to Los 1132 00:51:24,081 --> 00:51:25,249 Angeles. 1133 00:51:33,507 --> 00:51:36,468 And I even got to have a concert there with my dad and sing the 1134 00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:39,054 song he taught me so long ago. 1135 00:52:01,785 --> 00:52:05,748 [cheers and applause] 1136 00:52:14,548 --> 00:52:16,759 The Armenian homeland was destroyed by the genocide in 1137 00:52:17,009 --> 00:52:18,510 1915. 1138 00:52:18,761 --> 00:52:21,597 But a small part of Armenia actually did survive. 1139 00:52:21,847 --> 00:52:24,558 After two years of independence, it became part of the Soviet. 1140 00:52:24,808 --> 00:52:29,772 Union, until finally regaining its independence in 1991. 1141 00:52:30,981 --> 00:52:35,319 I had been to Armenia in 2005, and at that time, 1142 00:52:35,569 --> 00:52:37,988 I was starting to get more interested politically. 1143 00:52:38,238 --> 00:52:41,909 ♪ Emotional strings ♪ 1144 00:52:42,159 --> 00:52:43,577 The more I visited Armenia, 1145 00:52:43,827 --> 00:52:46,014 the more I started to see some of the injustices occurring in 1146 00:52:46,038 --> 00:52:48,916 Armenia, mostly having to do with the ruling elite, 1147 00:52:49,166 --> 00:52:52,586 a very corrupt ruling elite, post-Soviet oligarchic ruling 1148 00:52:52,836 --> 00:52:56,131 elite, that felt that they could do whatever they like, 1149 00:52:56,382 --> 00:52:58,133 uh, with impunity. 1150 00:52:59,218 --> 00:53:00,636 There was a depopulation occurring, 1151 00:53:00,886 --> 00:53:02,947 people were leaving the country, they were voting with their 1152 00:53:02,971 --> 00:53:04,765 feet, as it's called. 1153 00:53:05,224 --> 00:53:06,504 Because they couldn't find jobs. 1154 00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:09,395 They didn't have, uh, justice in the courts. 1155 00:53:09,645 --> 00:53:13,357 They weren't able to provide a great comfort and security and... 1156 00:53:13,607 --> 00:53:15,984 And... and lifestyle for their children. 1157 00:53:17,986 --> 00:53:19,839 Now, this was taboo in the Armenian community in the 1158 00:53:19,863 --> 00:53:22,157 diaspora because diasporan Armenians, 1159 00:53:22,408 --> 00:53:25,244 they didn't really want to talk about the injustices in Armenia. 1160 00:53:25,494 --> 00:53:28,580 When you're going to Congress asking for the recognition of 1161 00:53:28,831 --> 00:53:32,418 the genocide, it's not cool for you to mention that there's 1162 00:53:32,668 --> 00:53:34,896 corruption in Armenia, there's some bad shit happening in 1163 00:53:34,920 --> 00:53:37,172 Armenia that need to be resolved as well. 1164 00:53:37,423 --> 00:53:41,593 [crowd shouting and chanting] 1165 00:53:44,430 --> 00:53:49,393 March 1, 2008 is, uh, kind of indelibly sketched into modern 1166 00:53:50,477 --> 00:53:55,107 Armenian history because there were 10 deaths at a protest 1167 00:53:55,357 --> 00:53:59,653 protesting the election of Serzh Sargsyan as President. 1168 00:53:59,903 --> 00:54:02,990 In Armenia, at least nine people now have died in clashes 1169 00:54:03,240 --> 00:54:05,826 between police and opposition protesters. 1170 00:54:06,076 --> 00:54:09,621 Outgoing President Robert Kocharyan has imposed a... 1171 00:54:09,872 --> 00:54:13,292 [Serj] People were dying, uh, making their voices heard. 1172 00:54:13,542 --> 00:54:16,062 [male reporter] The protesters accuse the government of rigging 1173 00:54:16,128 --> 00:54:18,464 last month's presidential election. 1174 00:54:19,506 --> 00:54:21,258 [screaming] 1175 00:54:21,508 --> 00:54:24,636 And I was really, really heartbroken that... that Armenia 1176 00:54:24,887 --> 00:54:27,222 is going through this injustice and that, 1177 00:54:27,473 --> 00:54:30,726 you know, this... This hold on, you know, 1178 00:54:30,976 --> 00:54:34,104 uh, the populace and their destiny was happening by a 1179 00:54:34,354 --> 00:54:36,732 handful of el... Elitists, corrupt elitists. 1180 00:54:36,982 --> 00:54:39,109 And so I wrote a public letter. 1181 00:54:54,082 --> 00:54:56,162 So after writing that public letter to the President, 1182 00:54:56,376 --> 00:54:59,338 I... I didn't expect a response, a... actually, 1183 00:54:59,588 --> 00:55:01,465 uh, but he did respond, in public, 1184 00:55:01,715 --> 00:55:02,883 with his own letter. 1185 00:55:23,529 --> 00:55:26,365 2015 was the centennial of the Armenian genocide. 1186 00:55:26,615 --> 00:55:28,134 [male reporter] Thursday's vote in the German parliament 1187 00:55:28,158 --> 00:55:30,786 recognizing a genocide of 1.5 million Armenians 1188 00:55:31,036 --> 00:55:32,931 [Serj] Germany officially recognized the genocide, 1189 00:55:32,955 --> 00:55:35,874 the... the Vatican officially recognized the genocide. 1190 00:55:43,590 --> 00:55:45,109 [Serj] It was the first time System of a Down ever played 1191 00:55:45,133 --> 00:55:46,593 in Armenia, as well. 1192 00:55:46,844 --> 00:55:49,721 [crowd cheering] 1193 00:55:53,141 --> 00:55:54,781 Here I was, dealing with a government that 1194 00:55:54,977 --> 00:55:55,978 was unjust... 1195 00:55:56,228 --> 00:55:59,398 [crowd cheering] 1196 00:56:00,399 --> 00:56:01,984 That I was really rallying against, 1197 00:56:02,234 --> 00:56:04,111 yet I was also 1198 00:56:04,361 --> 00:56:06,738 spent my whole life fighting for recognition of the Armenian 1199 00:56:06,989 --> 00:56:08,907 genocide, an external injustice. 1200 00:56:09,157 --> 00:56:13,996 [crowd cheering] 1201 00:56:14,788 --> 00:56:19,751 ♪ Singing in Armenian ♪ 1202 00:56:20,252 --> 00:56:22,564 You know, I... I stayed up for two nights thinking about how 1203 00:56:22,588 --> 00:56:24,798 I'm... how am I gonna deal with this? 1204 00:56:26,133 --> 00:56:28,453 At the time, it just came to me in the middle of the night, 1205 00:56:28,677 --> 00:56:30,387 and I just said, "You know what?" 1206 00:56:30,637 --> 00:56:32,347 I'm a fucking musician, I'm an artist. 1207 00:56:32,598 --> 00:56:34,850 I'm gonna say everything I need to say from my stage, 1208 00:56:35,100 --> 00:56:36,226 from our stage. 1209 00:56:36,476 --> 00:56:38,937 "And the rest can fall where it may." 1210 00:56:42,024 --> 00:56:44,943 Before the show, we got together with the guys from. 1211 00:56:45,193 --> 00:56:47,863 System in the lobby of the hotel we were at before we got 1212 00:56:48,113 --> 00:56:48,780 onstage. 1213 00:56:49,031 --> 00:56:50,049 I'm honored to be with you guys. 1214 00:56:50,073 --> 00:56:51,073 Me too. 1215 00:56:51,283 --> 00:56:53,368 This... this, like, even more this time... 1216 00:56:53,619 --> 00:56:55,162 [Serj] And we hugged each other. 1217 00:56:57,039 --> 00:57:00,000 I had this sense of calmness that is rare. 1218 00:57:00,292 --> 00:57:03,170 And I just looked at the guys and it almost felt like we 1219 00:57:03,420 --> 00:57:05,964 were... crealted 1220 00:57:06,214 --> 00:57:08,050 to play that night. 1221 00:57:08,675 --> 00:57:09,819 Now, let's go wait for 20 more minutes. 1222 00:57:09,843 --> 00:57:11,261 Where are they? 1223 00:57:11,511 --> 00:57:12,822 [Shavo] From day one, we had songs about being Armenian and 1224 00:57:12,846 --> 00:57:14,056 the whole cause, you know? 1225 00:57:14,306 --> 00:57:15,974 And it was like one head, two head, 1226 00:57:16,224 --> 00:57:17,224 three head, four head. 1227 00:57:17,309 --> 00:57:18,060 [rolls tongue] 1228 00:57:18,310 --> 00:57:19,621 And a whole nation got... heard us. 1229 00:57:19,645 --> 00:57:22,040 They're like, "Fuck, they're... They're... those young boys are... 1230 00:57:22,064 --> 00:57:23,815 Are... are fucking soldiers." 1231 00:57:24,066 --> 00:57:27,402 We were soldiers with a fucking... with a voice to say 1232 00:57:27,653 --> 00:57:28,278 something. 1233 00:57:28,528 --> 00:57:29,738 [crowd cheering] 1234 00:57:29,988 --> 00:57:32,658 [John] It was as poignant moment because all the drama of 1235 00:57:32,908 --> 00:57:35,077 the last 20 years, it just went away. 1236 00:57:35,577 --> 00:57:39,039 And it was just four guys going onstage and playing for their 1237 00:57:39,289 --> 00:57:40,289 people. 1238 00:57:40,457 --> 00:57:43,418 [crowd cheering] 1239 00:57:44,711 --> 00:57:47,047 ♪ Emotional piano music ♪ 1240 00:57:47,297 --> 00:57:49,466 [Serj] We played an amazing show. 1241 00:57:49,967 --> 00:57:52,469 It was raining, it was really dramatic. 1242 00:57:52,886 --> 00:57:55,305 And the audience was going crazy. 1243 00:57:56,682 --> 00:57:58,058 And I started talking. 1244 00:57:58,308 --> 00:57:59,893 The truth serum kicked in. 1245 00:58:00,143 --> 00:58:03,021 ♪ Ominous guitar riff ♪ 1246 00:58:04,106 --> 00:58:06,233 For the last few days 1247 00:58:07,317 --> 00:58:09,736 I haven't been able to sleep well. 1248 00:58:10,779 --> 00:58:13,448 All I can think about is my grandparents. 1249 00:58:14,324 --> 00:58:16,118 My grandfather... 1250 00:58:17,452 --> 00:58:19,812 My grandfather was five years old when he saw his own father 1251 00:58:19,913 --> 00:58:21,248 die. 1252 00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:25,252 He lost his sight from hunger. 1253 00:58:26,420 --> 00:58:31,133 And I spoke about the hypocrisy of Obama talking about 1254 00:58:31,591 --> 00:58:34,052 recognition of the genocide as a senator before he became. 1255 00:58:34,302 --> 00:58:37,472 President and not using the word "genocide" because of Turkish 1256 00:58:37,723 --> 00:58:38,723 pressure. 1257 00:58:38,807 --> 00:58:40,934 So the fact that the US government 1258 00:58:41,560 --> 00:58:44,146 picks the wrong word to recognize what we know is 1259 00:58:44,396 --> 00:58:47,774 genocide is not only appalling to us, 1260 00:58:48,025 --> 00:58:50,318 it's appalling to Americans. 1261 00:58:50,819 --> 00:58:52,505 And then I talked about the Armenian government. 1262 00:58:52,529 --> 00:58:54,531 We've come a long way, Armenia. 1263 00:58:54,823 --> 00:58:57,075 But there's still a lot of fucking work to do. 1264 00:58:57,325 --> 00:59:00,287 [crowd cheers] 1265 00:59:00,537 --> 00:59:02,177 It is the responsibility of the government 1266 00:59:02,205 --> 00:59:04,750 of the Republic of Armenia 1267 00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:09,129 to bring in the principles of egalitarian civic society. 1268 00:59:09,379 --> 00:59:11,757 [crowd cheers] 1269 00:59:14,760 --> 00:59:17,763 Getting rid of the institutional injustice abound... 1270 00:59:18,013 --> 00:59:22,517 [crowd cheering] 1271 00:59:22,768 --> 00:59:26,188 And stopping the depopulation that is occurring. 1272 00:59:26,438 --> 00:59:28,398 [crowd cheers] 1273 00:59:28,648 --> 00:59:30,942 I didn't know long it would take for the 1274 00:59:31,193 --> 00:59:35,530 reversal of fortunes, but I knew that it was coming. 1275 00:59:35,781 --> 00:59:40,744 ♪ Unsettling electonic music ♪ 1276 00:59:44,998 --> 00:59:47,834 In 2017, there were parliamentary elections. 1277 00:59:48,085 --> 00:59:51,838 I saw that as the last hope for Armenia to be able to come back 1278 00:59:52,089 --> 00:59:56,343 into progressive democracy from this oligarchic decline. 1279 00:59:56,593 --> 00:59:57,177 Calm down, man. 1280 00:59:57,427 --> 00:59:58,095 Calm down. 1281 00:59:58,345 --> 00:59:58,762 It's gonna be okay. [Laughs] 1282 00:59:59,012 --> 00:59:59,596 It's gonna be okay. 1283 00:59:59,846 --> 01:00:00,347 You're gonna be fine. 1284 01:00:00,597 --> 01:00:01,723 You're gonna be just fine. 1285 01:00:01,973 --> 01:00:03,576 Just... as long as you vote, you're gonna be fine. 1286 01:00:03,600 --> 01:00:05,244 As long as you vote, you're gonna be fine. 1287 01:00:05,268 --> 01:00:06,268 As long as you vote. 1288 01:00:06,478 --> 01:00:07,838 [Serj] Myself and a number of, uh, 1289 01:00:08,063 --> 01:00:11,191 artist friends, we went under the coalition called Justice. 1290 01:00:11,441 --> 01:00:12,567 Within Armenia. 1291 01:00:12,818 --> 01:00:13,860 Young people, please vote. 1292 01:00:14,111 --> 01:00:17,072 Don't block these elections, because this is your only chance 1293 01:00:17,322 --> 01:00:18,031 to make your voice heard. 1294 01:00:18,281 --> 01:00:20,867 Irrespective of corruption, irrespective of all the 1295 01:00:21,118 --> 01:00:22,327 limitations... 1296 01:00:22,577 --> 01:00:24,430 Some people in... in the government accused us of being 1297 01:00:24,454 --> 01:00:28,208 foreign spies, and to be called a foreign spy in my own, 1298 01:00:28,458 --> 01:00:31,670 you know, cultural homeland, you know? 1299 01:00:31,920 --> 01:00:34,214 And... that really pissed us all off. 1300 01:00:34,464 --> 01:00:36,067 [singing] ;/ don't give a fuck about the FBI} 1301 01:00:36,091 --> 01:00:38,218 ♪ I don't give a fuck about the CIA ♪ 1302 01:00:38,468 --> 01:00:40,220 ♪ I don't give a fuck about the KGB ♪ 1303 01:00:40,470 --> 01:00:42,806 ♪ I don't give a fuck about the FSB ♪ 1304 01:00:43,056 --> 01:00:44,808 Okay, so, [inaudible]... 1305 01:00:45,058 --> 01:00:47,060 [laughter and applause] 1306 01:00:47,310 --> 01:00:49,497 We wrote all these statements encouraging monitors to come to 1307 01:00:49,521 --> 01:00:53,316 Armenia and be eyewitnesses to what's going on. 1308 01:01:06,329 --> 01:01:08,623 [Serj] I went to at least 12 polling stations around the 1309 01:01:08,874 --> 01:01:10,083 country. 1310 01:01:10,333 --> 01:01:12,836 Some guy's writing stuff on a car. 1311 01:01:13,295 --> 01:01:16,256 But we realized quickly that the votes were already bought and 1312 01:01:16,506 --> 01:01:17,632 paid for ahead of time. 1313 01:01:17,883 --> 01:01:20,844 We had a guy who basically was keeping tabs on the voters, 1314 01:01:21,094 --> 01:01:23,430 sitting right behind the ballot box. 1315 01:01:23,680 --> 01:01:26,224 [Serj] Right in front of the eyes of the OSC, 1316 01:01:26,474 --> 01:01:29,895 right in front of the eyes of the European Council of Nations. 1317 01:01:33,690 --> 01:01:37,068 [Serj] Right in front of the eyes of all us monitors. 1318 01:01:45,911 --> 01:01:48,914 [Serj] I was so disappointed, I couldn't even bring myself to go 1319 01:01:49,164 --> 01:01:51,666 speak at the post-election press conference. 1320 01:01:51,917 --> 01:01:55,670 [speaking in Armenian] 1321 01:01:55,921 --> 01:01:58,757 [female reporter] President Serzh Sargsyan's ruling party is 1322 01:01:59,007 --> 01:02:01,885 well ahead in Armenia's landmark election. 1323 01:02:02,135 --> 01:02:04,971 This is the first ballot to usher in a new parliamentary 1324 01:02:05,222 --> 01:02:07,682 system of government, yet critics see the change as an 1325 01:02:07,933 --> 01:02:10,352 effort to prolong his political life. 1326 01:02:10,602 --> 01:02:13,188 And with claims of voting fraud multiplying... 1327 01:02:13,438 --> 01:02:17,567 [Serj] The Republican Party of Armenia won a huge majority, 1328 01:02:17,817 --> 01:02:21,571 and so it seemed like Armenia's progressive democratic future 1329 01:02:21,821 --> 01:02:22,906 was doomed. 1330 01:02:23,156 --> 01:02:26,117 ♪ Singing in Armenian ♪ 1331 01:02:26,368 --> 01:02:29,204 And I was fucking depressed. 1332 01:02:33,750 --> 01:02:38,713 ♪ Singing in Armenian ♪ 1333 01:02:44,261 --> 01:02:49,224 ♪ soft melancholic music ♪ 1334 01:02:55,230 --> 01:02:58,191 Power is always afraid of... of means that can 1335 01:02:58,441 --> 01:03:01,361 break out of it: Music, dancing, you know, 1336 01:03:01,611 --> 01:03:04,322 anything that can move a soul, you know? 1337 01:03:04,572 --> 01:03:06,950 And stir the soul. 1338 01:03:09,077 --> 01:03:12,789 [interviewer] So... can music change the world? 1339 01:03:15,625 --> 01:03:17,836 Music changes our intuitive hearts. 1340 01:03:18,086 --> 01:03:20,406 Like, our... our... our... music changes the way we feel about 1341 01:03:20,630 --> 01:03:22,007 things. 1342 01:03:22,424 --> 01:03:25,176 How we feel about things can overwhelm our logic. 1343 01:03:25,427 --> 01:03:26,654 -[John] [echoing] Four Armenian kids. 1344 01:03:26,678 --> 01:03:29,597 And now, we're on CNN and there's a riot because of us? 1345 01:03:29,848 --> 01:03:32,225 [Serj] And our logic being a part of the process can change 1346 01:03:32,475 --> 01:03:33,768 the world. 1347 01:03:34,019 --> 01:03:35,663 [Shavo] [echoing] We were soldiers with a voice to say 1348 01:03:35,687 --> 01:03:37,063 something. 1349 01:03:37,314 --> 01:03:39,458 [Rick] [echoing] That's the true artist's role in society. 1350 01:03:39,482 --> 01:03:42,569 It is our responsibility to push back. 1351 01:03:42,819 --> 01:03:45,613 [Serj] But it requires people realizing that they have the 1352 01:03:45,864 --> 01:03:47,282 power. 1353 01:03:48,450 --> 01:03:50,785 [echoing] Open your eyes, open your mouths, 1354 01:03:51,036 --> 01:03:53,204 close your hand and make a fist. 1355 01:03:53,455 --> 01:03:55,582 [crowd cheering] 1356 01:03:56,291 --> 01:03:58,043 Down with the system. 1357 01:04:15,477 --> 01:04:17,854 So it's the end of March and Ang goes, 1358 01:04:18,104 --> 01:04:20,144 "Hey, did you check out what's going on in Armenia?" 1359 01:04:20,315 --> 01:04:21,691 And she was looking at Facebook. 1360 01:04:36,331 --> 01:04:37,611 [Serj] Nikol Pashinyan, who was, 1361 01:04:37,707 --> 01:04:40,126 uh, an opposition member of parliament, 1362 01:04:40,377 --> 01:04:43,254 started a protest walk. 1363 01:04:48,510 --> 01:04:50,845 [Serj] And this little movement was starting. 1364 01:05:21,334 --> 01:05:23,878 [Serj] What was really unique about this movement were the 1365 01:05:24,129 --> 01:05:29,092 ethos. 1366 01:05:29,634 --> 01:05:32,137 [Serj] They said that we want a completely peaceful movement. 1367 01:05:38,726 --> 01:05:40,895 [blast, screaming] 1368 01:05:43,648 --> 01:05:46,109 [shouting] 1369 01:06:03,668 --> 01:06:06,546 [honking and shouting] 1370 01:06:08,047 --> 01:06:10,192 [Serj] The only way to describe it is decentralized civil 1371 01:06:10,216 --> 01:06:11,217 disobedience. 1372 01:06:11,468 --> 01:06:14,137 [shouting] 1373 01:06:16,806 --> 01:06:17,825 Police would come and go, "All right", 1374 01:06:17,849 --> 01:06:19,618 you gotta unblock this intersection,” and they would 1375 01:06:19,642 --> 01:06:21,745 just go on the sidewalk and the police would walk away and 1376 01:06:21,769 --> 01:06:23,646 they'd jump, the police would come back 1377 01:06:25,482 --> 01:06:27,001 [Serj] I mean, it was like Tom and Jerry! 1378 01:06:27,025 --> 01:06:28,526 It was almost funny. 1379 01:06:30,778 --> 01:06:33,740 ♪ Dramatic music ♪ 1380 01:06:33,990 --> 01:06:37,952 This was an ingenious way to show the people that they 1381 01:06:38,203 --> 01:06:39,787 owned the country. 1382 01:06:48,087 --> 01:06:50,590 I want to congratulate you for, so far, 1383 01:06:50,840 --> 01:06:52,960 holding one of the most successful civil disobendience 1384 01:06:53,092 --> 01:06:55,762 campaigns in all of Armenian history. 1385 01:06:56,012 --> 01:06:58,452 You've realized this cultural awakening and decision to pursue 1386 01:06:58,681 --> 01:07:00,975 justice is a basic human right. 1387 01:07:01,226 --> 01:07:04,812 I can see the love in your eyes and in your hearts like I did 1388 01:07:05,063 --> 01:07:08,775 when we played in 2015 with System of a Down from the stage. 1389 01:07:12,862 --> 01:07:15,216 [Serj] Finally, the government of Armenia realizes that there 1390 01:07:15,240 --> 01:07:17,575 is no way around these protests. 1391 01:07:32,840 --> 01:07:34,676 Serzh Sargsyan, the President, says, 1392 01:07:34,926 --> 01:07:38,221 "Let's talk about what... What your demands are." 1393 01:07:38,471 --> 01:07:41,224 And Nikol says, "We only have one demand..." 1394 01:08:03,913 --> 01:08:06,624 [Serj] So at this point, I've got this horrendous flu from 1395 01:08:06,874 --> 01:08:07,874 hell. 1396 01:08:08,042 --> 01:08:09,144 There's, like, shit running out of my nose, 1397 01:08:09,168 --> 01:08:10,168 I've got fever. 1398 01:08:10,295 --> 01:08:14,299 But I'm, like, obsessed just watching this 24/7. 1399 01:08:15,133 --> 01:08:16,551 [Serj] And then suddenly... 1400 01:08:28,146 --> 01:08:30,857 "Serj Tankian, it's time that you come and join your people." 1401 01:08:31,107 --> 01:08:32,692 And I'm like... 1402 01:08:33,526 --> 01:08:35,069 "Oh, my God." [laughs] 1403 01:08:41,909 --> 01:08:44,078 [crowd cheering] 1404 01:08:52,337 --> 01:08:55,673 [crowd cheering] 1405 01:09:01,554 --> 01:09:05,183 [crowd chanting] 1406 01:09:07,018 --> 01:09:09,395 Next thing you know, you see priests, 1407 01:09:09,646 --> 01:09:12,732 you see soldiers on the street with the people, 1408 01:09:12,982 --> 01:09:14,192 walking arm-to-arm. 1409 01:09:14,442 --> 01:09:17,987 [honking and cheering] 1410 01:09:19,238 --> 01:09:22,992 ♪ Exciting theme music ♪ 1411 01:09:27,830 --> 01:09:31,084 And the announcement comes that the Prime Minister of Armenia has resigned. 1412 01:09:31,334 --> 01:09:32,710 "Serzh Sargsyan has resigned." 1413 01:09:32,960 --> 01:09:36,339 [cheering] 1414 01:09:38,049 --> 01:09:40,593 [female reporter] An eruption on the streets of Yerevan as 1415 01:09:40,843 --> 01:09:44,555 tens of thousands of citizens flood the capital to celebrate 1416 01:09:44,806 --> 01:09:48,559 the miraculous resignation of Serzh Sargsyan. 1417 01:09:49,060 --> 01:09:51,187 [male reporter] It was a David versus Goliath battle, 1418 01:09:51,437 --> 01:09:53,606 as peaceful protests brought down the most powerful 1419 01:09:53,856 --> 01:09:57,777 government in the history of this post-Soviet nation. 1420 01:09:58,820 --> 01:10:02,949 [cheering] 1421 01:10:03,616 --> 01:10:07,161 ♪ Uplifting music ♪ 1422 01:10:07,412 --> 01:10:11,457 [cheering] 1423 01:10:36,065 --> 01:10:40,403 [cheering] 1424 01:11:11,476 --> 01:11:13,644 [cheering] 1425 01:11:14,687 --> 01:11:17,023 [honking] 1426 01:11:18,357 --> 01:11:20,902 [Serj] There were so many people on the street greeting us 1427 01:11:21,152 --> 01:11:22,862 that we couldn't drive. 1428 01:11:24,155 --> 01:11:26,657 [cheering] 1429 01:11:26,908 --> 01:11:29,869 I saw thousands of people on the street 1430 01:11:30,703 --> 01:11:34,040 with the most joy in their eyes that I've ever seen in my life. 1431 01:11:34,290 --> 01:11:37,960 [cheering] 1432 01:11:42,507 --> 01:11:44,467 And they were honoring him, 1433 01:11:44,717 --> 01:11:49,680 and me, with traditional Armenian gata and cognac and 1434 01:11:50,014 --> 01:11:51,724 stuff like that, you know? [Laughs] 1435 01:11:54,018 --> 01:11:55,853 It's just so surreal, man. 1436 01:11:56,103 --> 01:11:58,314 It's so surreal. 1437 01:12:05,530 --> 01:12:06,530 [beep] 1438 01:12:06,739 --> 01:12:09,742 [cheering and applause] 1439 01:12:15,164 --> 01:12:19,377 [Serj] We, uh, went to have some tea and... and some dessert. 1440 01:12:19,627 --> 01:12:23,506 He... he's... he's executed the perfect revolution, 1441 01:12:23,756 --> 01:12:26,517 and I'm asking, "So, wh... how many of you were there in the beginning? 1442 01:12:26,551 --> 01:12:27,861 And how was it? How did you plan this? 1443 01:12:27,885 --> 01:12:29,303 Was that planned? Was that... 1444 01:12:29,554 --> 01:12:31,554 Like, he's just, like, answering them and laughing. 1445 01:12:41,983 --> 01:12:44,819 And at one point, he says, "Do you realize something?" 1446 01:12:45,069 --> 01:12:50,032 He goes, "You realize that Anna and I, my wife and I", 1447 01:12:50,825 --> 01:12:53,953 were in the audience in 2015 watching you in System of a. 1448 01:12:54,203 --> 01:12:55,203 "Down." 1449 01:12:57,206 --> 01:12:58,374 Oh, yeah? 1450 01:13:02,086 --> 01:13:05,923 He goes, "I figured, if you guys can bring 50,000 people", 1451 01:13:06,173 --> 01:13:09,010 we should be able to bring 50... More... more than 50,000 people 1452 01:13:09,260 --> 01:13:10,511 and do a revolution."" 1453 01:13:10,761 --> 01:13:12,364 He goes, "That made me feel like this is all possible." 1454 01:13:12,388 --> 01:13:13,848 And I was like... 1455 01:13:14,098 --> 01:13:14,849 [sighs] 1456 01:13:15,099 --> 01:13:17,560 [crowd cheering] 1457 01:13:26,611 --> 01:13:29,864 [cheering] 1458 01:13:47,256 --> 01:13:50,259 [cheering] 1459 01:13:59,101 --> 01:14:02,438 [cheering] 1460 01:14:17,119 --> 01:14:20,623 I'm so proud that I come from a nation... 1461 01:14:25,252 --> 01:14:30,216 ♪ "Bari Aragil" singing continues ♪ 1462 01:14:43,688 --> 01:14:44,855 All right. 1463 01:14:45,106 --> 01:14:48,025 I'm so proud that I come from a nation that created a peaceful 1464 01:14:48,275 --> 01:14:53,239 revolution that... that was able to hand people their destiny. 1465 01:14:55,116 --> 01:14:58,452 And it's a lesson to the world that positive change can occur 1466 01:14:58,703 --> 01:15:00,913 in today's era of division. 1467 01:15:01,330 --> 01:15:04,875 And, uh, all this right-wing extremism and all this fucking 1468 01:15:05,126 --> 01:15:07,503 shit going on in the world, there is hope. 1469 01:15:09,380 --> 01:15:14,093 ♪ Soft emotional music ♪ 1470 01:15:23,019 --> 01:15:25,938 The House voted overwhelmingly to recognize the century-old 1471 01:15:26,188 --> 01:15:27,948 - mass killings... - Mass killings of Armenians 1472 01:15:28,190 --> 01:15:29,734 by Ottoman Turks as genocide. 1473 01:15:29,984 --> 01:15:32,144 [Pelosi] As international observers wrote at the time, 1474 01:15:32,361 --> 01:15:35,364 "It was a campaign of race extermination." 1475 01:15:35,614 --> 01:15:38,117 One that we, as members of Congress and as freedom-loving 1476 01:15:38,367 --> 01:15:41,912 people, have a moral obligation to never forget. 1477 01:15:42,163 --> 01:15:44,307 A moment when the House of Representatives refused to be 1478 01:15:44,331 --> 01:15:47,376 enlisted in the cause of genocide denial. 1479 01:15:47,626 --> 01:15:50,546 [male reporter] The non-binding resolution passed 405 to 11. 1480 01:15:50,796 --> 01:15:52,089 The resolution is adopted. 1481 01:15:52,339 --> 01:15:53,382 [cheering] 1482 01:15:53,632 --> 01:15:58,137 ♪ "Electric Yerevan" by Serj Tankian ♪ 110905

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