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I was 7 or 8 years old.
The phone rang.
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A man told me to convince my father
to give up refereeing.
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Otherwise, one day
he'd come home in a coffin.
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I told my father what the stranger said.
He continued to referee.
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The Second Game
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- You were 38 years old?
- Yes.
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Back in '88.
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Look.
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One of the linesmen is
Crăciunescu, the other is Salomir.
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God rest his soul.
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How did you decide that
the match should go ahead?
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When I checked before the match started,
it was snowing continuously.
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I came out about 3 times to check
whether the pitch was playable.
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I mean, the ball had to bounce
and not get stuck.
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But the most important thing
was visibility.
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You had to be able see the goal
from the half-way line.
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Visibility was acceptable.
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The fact that the pitch
was covered with a layer of snow...
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wasn't normal, but didn't
break any of the regulations.
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Anyway, the match was being televised,
the crowds were there.
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If the match hadn't gone ahead?
Did you think about that?
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It wouldn't have been a problem,
I'd just have called it off.
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So it was the Army team
versus the Police team?
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Actually, the Army
and the Secret Police.
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The Police and the Secret Police
were on the same side.
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And the Army
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They weren't just the Army...
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they were also Ceauescu's
favourite team.
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Weren't you scared
about these kinds of matches?
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No, there was nothing
they could do to me.
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If they caught you with anything,
they'd use it against you.
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And then you weren't a referee,
you were their slave.
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You had to carry out their orders.
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In these kinds of matches, both sides
knew what they had to do.
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They knew your
entire biography.
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They knew everything
there was to know.
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I refereed more of these matches
than anyone else.
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Interestingly, the first match
between them I refereed,
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was after only 6 matches in the First League.
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They chose me to referee.
I was completely unknown.
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The teams accepted me.
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Steaua and Dinamo
knew nothing about me.
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After I was chosen,
both teams came looking for me,
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even though it wasn't
professional or correct.
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It brings back memories.
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First the guys from Steaua
came looking for me,
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they even came here,
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through this Colonel...
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Colonel Popescu,
who had an important position.
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He may have even been
Club Manager.
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And Dinamo - I was refereeing
a Second League match,
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a Police commander was waiting
for me in Ibot train station.
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I arrived on a sleeper train
and he was waiting.
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He wanted to take me to
Commander Bărbulescu, in Bucharest.
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And did they propose a deal?
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Of course,
they said they had to win
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Then, on Tuesday I arrived
at the Football Federation
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and I told them that both teams
had tried to influence me.
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All of a sudden,
they told me to speak quietly.
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I said there was no need, I was just
telling them what had happened.
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Anyway, the National
Sports Council found out,
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and both sides
started to get worried.
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In the end,
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I found out later,
both teams were saying:
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"The referee is crazy!"
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"He told everyone Steaua and Dinamo
had come looking for him."
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"Leave him alone
and let him referee."
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It suited me perfectly.
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I refereed without any problems
at all. That was the first match.
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This one on screen was the 3rd or 4th,
I can't quite remember.
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In moments like this,
where did you position yourself?
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On the diagonal.
On a 'flexible diagonal'.
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I mean, you had to be everywhere.
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But you had to keep your eyes
on the linesman.
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And you always have to be
where the problems are.
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When you blow the whistle,
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you have to be nearby,
I mean, near where...
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the foul occurred.
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And it's very important
to be present, to ensure fair play.
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The pitch they're playing on
here is to Steaua's disadvantage,
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they're a technical, fast team,
with better possession.
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Dinamo were still developing,
they had important players.
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Cămătaru in attack,
Stelea in goal,
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Andone, Rednic in defence
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Do you remember...
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Did it keep snowing
after the match?
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Had I worked in agriculture,
like today, then I'd remember,
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but I wasn't in agriculture,
so I can't remember.
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After the match,
I left. I got on the train,
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it was a five hour journey
to get home to Vaslui.
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Do you think Steaua were playing
for a draw at Dinamo's stadium?
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I have no idea.
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If I'd started thinking about
such things, then...
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But Steaua were
playing away, right?
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Of course, they were playing
away, but it didn't matter
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They often played
in the National Stadium.
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I remember that my debut in '85 was there.
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With 85,000 fans watching.
Another Steaua-Dinamo match.
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Do you remember
their standing in the league?
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They had to be
in the top 2 positions.
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There were lots of 'satellite' teams.
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But back then Steaua were
already flying high
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after winning
the Champions League.
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If I'm not mistaken,
they were playing this match
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after another big final
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This was in '88. In '89
they played AC Milan, no?
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I can't remember.
But anyway, they were...
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They were the top teams.
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Look! Dan Petrescu.
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I refereed Dan Petrescu a few times
when he played for FC Olt.
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Steaua borrowed him,
along with Ilie Dumitrescu.
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Back then, I refereed
the toughest matches.
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Especially Steaua playing away.
I refereed them at home just once.
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It was a really controversial
match with FC Olt,
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when I sent off Lăcătu.
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Both Steaua and Dinamo had
lots of smaller teams that were
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subordinate to them.
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They'd always beat these teams 2-0.
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They only played a few matches
with their rival's 'satellite' teams.
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Apart from these, only the
Steaua-Dinamo matches mattered.
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Back then I refereed more
of these matches than anyone.
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They kept a secret record
on every referee
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and both teams wanted
to have a record on me, too.
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Dinamo had the secret police and
Steaua had their own power...
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Look!
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...their own powers.
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I was really proud
of the fact
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that I had nothing
to do with either team.
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Also, it was a period
when I went abroad
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as an international referee.
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At each match, at least 1 or 2
of the 3 referees
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was an informer
for the Secret Police.
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Anyway, these things
are past history now.
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They're not interesting to anyone.
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Just like this match isn't really
of interest to anyone.
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Nobody cares how many
Steaua-Dinamo matches there were.
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Time passes, things change,
it's always moving forwards...
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Hagi.
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How old was Hagi back then?
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About 20-21,
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He left...
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He left to play for Real
right after the revolution?
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In '90, yeah.
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Foul.
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The pitch was becoming a mudbath.
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If it hadn't snowed to cover it,
then it would have become...
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because it wasn't so cold.
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It was snowing...
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but it was no more
than -1, -2 degrees.
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I remember seeing this match.
I was so scared!
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- How old were you?
- 13.
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13 years old.
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The guy at the back,
was he the photographer?
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Yes, the photographer.
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- Dangerous tackle?
- No.
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You use
the 'advantage' rule a lot.
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The role of the referee
is to keep the game flowing.
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Now, the rules of the game
have changed.
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The changes were
a huge help to the referee,
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because you can re-call a decision.
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You give them the advantage,
and if it doesn't materialize,
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you can re-call it
and give a free kick.
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Before, it was risky to make those calls.
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You let them have the advantage
but couldn't re-call it.
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Yeah, you couldn't re-call it.
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You'd have preferred
to stop the match more often.
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No. In this kind of game you had
to intervene, and use the whistle.
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If you just gave the advantage,
and let the game flow freely,
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it would get out of hand.
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Only when you're on top of the
game, could you allow it...
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I refereed in Qatar
for 3 months,
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and if you didn't blow the whistle,
they'd challenge you.
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I was with Sándor Puhl.
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During one match,
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a fight broke out when he
allowed an advantaged to be played.
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Even the spectators
started fighting.
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Why?
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If you didn't blow the whistle
straight away for a clear foul,
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and if you let them play on,
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then they'd challenge you,
and start a fight.
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You mean they didn't understand
the concept of 'advantage'?
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No, they didn't understand
that the referee can...
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can let the game continue
instead of whistling for a foul.
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They would need to see the guy
who committed the foul punished,
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and they'd start fighting.
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The players have started arguing.
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Hagi is angry.
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- He's shouting at you?
- No, they wouldn't dare...
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The referee had to command
respect through his decisions.
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They knew who the referee was.
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Sometimes it was hard,
these players were hard to control.
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When did they put
a bandage on Cămătaru?
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- Who?
- Cămătaru.
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When did they bandage him?
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In the opening minutes, he fouled
someone when going for a header.
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He hit his eyebrow.
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And back then you could
just leave the pitch?
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Perhaps...
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Perhaps they didn't show it on the TV.
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He couldn't have put
the bandage on himself.
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You can see him wearing it.
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Probably the footage they chose
didn't include him leaving the pitch.
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He couldn't bandage himself,
on the pitch. It's obvious.
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If it were filmed today,
they'd have shown him leaving.
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Back then they'd rather
show the spectators.
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Look how he's sliding...
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I refereed for them plenty of times,
but I never liked them.
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I still feel the same way.
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It brings me great pleasure
when the team from Vaslui...
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when we beat Steaua or Dinamo.
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They were 2 very important
clubs. Steaua is still famous.
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They had a great record.
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It's the team put together
by Valentin Ceauescu.
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Ando...
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Young and happy.
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And...
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The...
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- Foul?
- Yeah. Dangerous play.
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Someone's arguing again.
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No.
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And all those people coming
to the match in this weather...
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The Dinamo stadium was full, right?
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Steaua had their fans,
over by the stadium entrance.
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- But the stadium was full?
- Yeah. For all these matches.
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At Steaua's stadium, and Dinamo's
stadium, and the National stadium.
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They were all real footballers,
which Romania no longer has.
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See the speed of play? It's fast,
despite the bad conditions.
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You can see these kinds of matches,
in the German Championship,
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and in lots of other Championships,
they play in the snow.
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Look, you can see they've not
played down the left side.
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Where they've played a lot
it's all turned black.
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As I remember, Steaua
played down the wings.
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Maybe they changed
their tactics for this pitch?
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They didn't change,
they played in a tight group,
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they couldn't just open up.
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So rather Dinamo played
with Cămătaru as the pivot?
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What did it take for you
to give a yellow card?
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What do you mean?
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00:24:16,706 --> 00:24:22,670
I mean, when did you give yellows?
You weren't that strict.
242
00:24:22,795 --> 00:24:26,841
- I'd have given 2 yellows already.
- Why?
243
00:24:27,842 --> 00:24:30,303
It would have stalled the game.
244
00:24:31,679 --> 00:24:39,812
Any warning you give needs to be
absolutely justified in the rules.
245
00:24:42,231 --> 00:24:44,066
You provoke and annoy the players.
246
00:24:44,192 --> 00:24:47,528
If you give 4 or 5 yellows
you irritate them even more.
247
00:24:47,653 --> 00:24:51,949
Then when something happens later
and you give a second yellow,
248
00:24:52,074 --> 00:24:55,703
you ruin the equilibrium.
You can't start playing around.
249
00:24:55,828 --> 00:24:59,540
Any game you're refereeing
needs to be balanced.
250
00:24:59,665 --> 00:25:05,087
If you start tinkering and giving
out yellows just because you can,
251
00:25:05,213 --> 00:25:12,220
then you make the match difficult
and unpleasant for yourself.
252
00:25:23,564 --> 00:25:26,901
I can remember
there was a scandal
253
00:25:27,026 --> 00:25:31,239
when you gave Niculescu a yellow,
and he made the sign of the cross.
254
00:25:33,115 --> 00:25:36,369
- Yeah, I gave him a yellow.
- And it was the second...
255
00:25:36,494 --> 00:25:40,581
No. I gave him one yellow,
and he crossed himself.
256
00:25:40,706 --> 00:25:46,045
Ostentatiously and making fun of me.
257
00:25:46,170 --> 00:25:48,881
And so I automatically
gave him a second yellow.
258
00:25:49,006 --> 00:25:54,220
He got sent off, so he could
pray in the changing rooms.
259
00:26:09,652 --> 00:26:14,949
Dinamo are better,
they're more suited to the pitch,
260
00:26:15,074 --> 00:26:17,868
they're more powerful.
261
00:26:17,994 --> 00:26:20,955
Steaua are more technical...
262
00:26:22,498 --> 00:26:24,000
Look at that.
263
00:26:38,848 --> 00:26:44,645
The rules today wouldn't allow us
to play with Cămătaru bleeding.
264
00:26:46,689 --> 00:26:49,358
- Today?
- See, that's a foul...
265
00:26:49,650 --> 00:26:50,693
But then?
266
00:26:51,652 --> 00:26:53,112
- What?
- Then?
267
00:26:54,405 --> 00:26:57,658
- Could he play on?
- Yeah, he could play on.
268
00:26:57,783 --> 00:26:59,869
I had to send him
to change his bandage.
269
00:26:59,994 --> 00:27:02,413
Which is exactly what happened...
270
00:27:07,293 --> 00:27:08,502
You had a watch with...
271
00:27:08,628 --> 00:27:10,713
- A stopwatch, right?
- Yeah.
272
00:27:10,838 --> 00:27:14,425
And you stopped it
for things like this?
273
00:27:14,550 --> 00:27:18,971
No. I'm not a basketball referee.
274
00:27:21,474 --> 00:27:23,726
This is wasted time
that gets added onto
275
00:27:26,062 --> 00:27:28,314
He pushes with his hand, too.
276
00:27:46,957 --> 00:27:49,585
Dinamo are more aggressive.
277
00:27:49,710 --> 00:27:53,089
And here,
what a slide-tackle...
278
00:27:53,214 --> 00:27:55,466
They played hard, right?
279
00:27:55,591 --> 00:27:58,886
They had this attitude...
280
00:28:02,139 --> 00:28:05,267
These matches were highly charged.
281
00:28:08,896 --> 00:28:15,736
There was an indescribable
rivalry between the leaders
282
00:28:15,861 --> 00:28:23,327
of the 2 different systems.
The focus of power in Romania,
283
00:28:24,662 --> 00:28:27,164
which these 2 teams represented.
284
00:28:30,584 --> 00:28:32,837
Imagine back then if a referee had...
285
00:28:32,962 --> 00:28:39,093
Lots of them messed up.
Not many escaped unscathed.
286
00:28:41,929 --> 00:28:46,892
Their reputations, I mean.
But I was fine.
287
00:28:47,017 --> 00:28:50,771
Without false modesty,
I never had problems, during matches.
288
00:28:53,107 --> 00:28:55,735
And for you,
these were real matches, right?
289
00:28:55,860 --> 00:29:00,197
- What?
- They were real matches?
290
00:29:00,322 --> 00:29:07,413
They still are.
They're Championship derbies.
291
00:29:07,538 --> 00:29:09,874
Steaua and Dinamo are still
the most prestigious teams
292
00:29:09,999 --> 00:29:12,835
that Romania has ever produced.
293
00:29:14,420 --> 00:29:19,133
They had power, influence
and focussed players.
294
00:29:24,513 --> 00:29:30,186
See where play has been centred?
In the centre third...
295
00:29:33,314 --> 00:29:40,863
where Dinamo was attacking
and Steaua defending.
296
00:29:44,784 --> 00:29:49,288
- They were dominating.
- Now you give a yellow card.
297
00:29:50,706 --> 00:29:56,378
Ilie, who fouled once every 3 months,
got a yellow.
298
00:30:00,424 --> 00:30:03,677
But until now,
he hardly touched the ball.
299
00:30:05,846 --> 00:30:10,309
The strikers hardly touched the ball:
Marius Lăcătu, Ilie, Piurcă.
300
00:30:10,434 --> 00:30:12,061
Dinamo played hard.
301
00:30:12,186 --> 00:30:16,440
No, it was an aggressive defence
302
00:30:18,901 --> 00:30:22,488
they had better possession.
303
00:30:22,613 --> 00:30:24,740
- What a side-foot pass!
- Yeah...
304
00:30:34,708 --> 00:30:37,795
Dinamo's coach was...
305
00:30:38,879 --> 00:30:41,841
- Foul?
- Yes, yes...
306
00:30:41,966 --> 00:30:43,300
Lucescu,
307
00:30:45,636 --> 00:30:47,179
and...
308
00:30:48,430 --> 00:30:51,267
Steaua had Lordănescu.
309
00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:58,065
It may have been Mr Emi,
but I think it was Lordănescu.
310
00:31:14,039 --> 00:31:16,458
Look how hard they're playing.
311
00:31:17,751 --> 00:31:18,836
Letting nothing through.
312
00:31:18,961 --> 00:31:22,256
I like it that even
the cameraman is confused!
313
00:31:24,091 --> 00:31:28,053
He's anticipating,
letting them play the 'advantage'.
314
00:31:28,178 --> 00:31:30,472
They're filming with...
315
00:31:35,561 --> 00:31:38,022
with 2 cameras, I think.
316
00:31:38,147 --> 00:31:40,274
- No, more.
- What?
317
00:31:40,399 --> 00:31:42,443
Well, there's this one,
another...
318
00:31:46,113 --> 00:31:48,532
at pitch level...
319
00:31:50,826 --> 00:31:52,536
This one.
320
00:31:52,661 --> 00:31:55,164
This is the 2nd camera,
321
00:31:58,542 --> 00:32:00,377
and the 1st again...
322
00:32:25,986 --> 00:32:28,739
- What's that?
- Just a scrum.
323
00:32:30,491 --> 00:32:34,328
They switch to the stands,
so they don't show it...
324
00:32:35,371 --> 00:32:36,747
That's the 3rd camera.
325
00:32:36,872 --> 00:32:40,459
The 3rd camera which was
specially for this kind of thing.
326
00:32:40,584 --> 00:32:42,419
So that you couldn't see who...
327
00:32:43,337 --> 00:32:47,508
In the socialist era...
the communist era,
328
00:32:47,633 --> 00:32:50,260
you couldn't show bad sportsmanship.
329
00:32:53,389 --> 00:32:57,226
Really, it's quite funny,
the Army against the Police...
330
00:32:57,351 --> 00:33:03,524
It should have been the Communist
Party against the bourgeoisie...
331
00:33:03,649 --> 00:33:07,569
It was the Communist Party
against the Communist Party.
332
00:33:07,695 --> 00:33:11,615
Weren't the Army and the
Secret Police both communists?
333
00:33:11,740 --> 00:33:14,451
There were big egos involved,
334
00:33:18,288 --> 00:33:19,540
it all became
335
00:33:19,665 --> 00:33:21,792
Look at that...
Boom!
336
00:33:22,876 --> 00:33:24,837
- Did the ball go off?
- No.
337
00:33:24,962 --> 00:33:29,591
You see? There is still
untrodden snow over there.
338
00:33:29,717 --> 00:33:37,641
There's no need to have
devices to monitor the action,
339
00:33:37,766 --> 00:33:40,602
or player possession,
because we can see it in the snow.
340
00:34:06,879 --> 00:34:08,964
It's really snowing!
341
00:34:16,889 --> 00:34:23,062
It was that kind of snow
you can't really see in these images.
342
00:34:23,187 --> 00:34:27,066
They didn't have the technology
they do today
343
00:34:27,191 --> 00:34:30,486
but you can't really complain
about the image quality,
344
00:34:30,611 --> 00:34:33,864
because you can see
everything, right?
345
00:34:34,740 --> 00:34:37,618
It's hard to see the ball, but...
346
00:34:37,743 --> 00:34:41,121
You can see it fine,
if you follow it.
347
00:34:42,956 --> 00:34:46,835
It's yellow, it's impossible
not to see it.
348
00:35:04,770 --> 00:35:06,438
Now Steaua have really
started playing.
349
00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:13,195
- Foul.
- Yeah.
350
00:35:20,244 --> 00:35:23,205
They were the most
aggressive, Mateu and...
351
00:35:25,916 --> 00:35:27,459
Lăcătu.
352
00:35:36,260 --> 00:35:40,055
Did you give a yellow?
353
00:35:40,180 --> 00:35:41,557
No. For what?
354
00:35:44,476 --> 00:35:46,186
For that shoving...
355
00:35:46,311 --> 00:35:48,981
That wasn't shoving,
they were huddling together.
356
00:35:49,106 --> 00:35:53,735
You shouldn't give a yellow
for just anything...
357
00:35:53,861 --> 00:35:55,904
The referee isn't...
How can I put this...
358
00:35:56,029 --> 00:36:00,075
He's not like
a teacher or a judge,
359
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:09,585
who gives a yellow card
if you raise your voice a little.
360
00:36:41,325 --> 00:36:44,119
The wall is too close.
361
00:36:49,666 --> 00:36:52,753
I don't think they are
9.15 metres away.
362
00:36:52,878 --> 00:36:54,296
No...
363
00:36:57,633 --> 00:37:02,262
Yeah, I should have measured,
as there aren't any reference points.
364
00:37:02,387 --> 00:37:10,270
There are marks at 5.5 metres
and the semicircle at 16 metres.
365
00:37:10,395 --> 00:37:16,276
- There was no mark there.
- Because of the snow.
366
00:37:19,279 --> 00:37:22,199
I guess the wall
was around 6-7 meters.
367
00:37:39,258 --> 00:37:41,426
A dangerous tackle.
368
00:37:44,263 --> 00:37:47,849
Mateu was small,
but he had a big mouth.
369
00:37:54,439 --> 00:37:57,276
- It's almost like a film.
- What?
370
00:37:57,401 --> 00:37:59,695
It's almost like a film.
371
00:38:02,656 --> 00:38:05,075
But you couldn't make
a film out of this.
372
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:07,369
- Of this?
- Yeah.
373
00:38:07,494 --> 00:38:08,870
Let's see.
374
00:38:14,251 --> 00:38:17,421
Nobody would watch it,
it's all in the past.
375
00:38:17,546 --> 00:38:19,840
Better to make a film
about how Dobrin played,
376
00:38:19,965 --> 00:38:23,218
or about Dobrin's life,
but nobody would watch it either.
377
00:38:24,219 --> 00:38:28,598
If you made a film
about Messi in 6 years,
378
00:38:28,724 --> 00:38:32,436
about how Messi played,
and how he conquered the world,
379
00:38:32,561 --> 00:38:33,895
still nobody
would watch it.
380
00:38:34,021 --> 00:38:36,690
It's like when people talk
about Ronhaldino now.
381
00:38:36,815 --> 00:38:39,985
I was referee observer
in 3 of his matches.
382
00:38:41,486 --> 00:38:46,116
Everyone was crazy about him,
the crowd roared when he appeared.
383
00:38:47,034 --> 00:38:50,329
Now nobody cares.
384
00:38:51,413 --> 00:38:55,042
Football is like everything else
385
00:38:55,167 --> 00:38:58,211
It's like cinema, and art.
386
00:38:58,337 --> 00:39:04,760
They all have their moment,
you consume it and it's over.
387
00:39:04,885 --> 00:39:08,930
This is just a Dinamo-Steaua
match played in the snow.
388
00:39:09,056 --> 00:39:12,225
They played thousands
of matches in the snow.
389
00:39:12,351 --> 00:39:16,021
More important matches than this one,
in the Bundesliga...
390
00:39:16,146 --> 00:39:17,773
- But you weren't refereeing them.
- What?
391
00:39:17,898 --> 00:39:20,400
You weren't refereeing them.
392
00:39:20,525 --> 00:39:26,073
What about a Champions League match,
Liverpool and Manchester.
393
00:39:26,198 --> 00:39:29,910
It was 3-0 at one point
for Manch... No, for Liverpool.
394
00:39:30,035 --> 00:39:33,580
No, Manchester playing a German
team, I can't remember which,
395
00:39:33,914 --> 00:39:35,832
Bayern perhaps.
396
00:39:39,544 --> 00:39:41,755
And they won 4-3.
397
00:40:02,317 --> 00:40:04,528
Lupu's a great player,
I like him best.
398
00:40:04,653 --> 00:40:06,196
- Who?
- Lupu.
399
00:40:06,321 --> 00:40:10,659
He was a player with certain limits.
400
00:40:10,784 --> 00:40:11,827
He's very technical.
401
00:40:20,544 --> 00:40:28,677
If the match had taken place in 1989,
you could say it had anticipated the Revolution.
402
00:40:28,802 --> 00:40:33,890
They're fighting tooth and nail,
but not like in other matches.
403
00:40:34,015 --> 00:40:38,061
Once, they had to stop play,
and Dinamo took the cup home.
404
00:40:38,186 --> 00:40:41,189
You could say that was important.
405
00:40:44,609 --> 00:40:46,778
When? One year earlier?
406
00:40:48,989 --> 00:40:51,908
- In '87.
- In '87, yeah.
407
00:40:52,033 --> 00:40:55,412
- The match was never finished.
- Yes. The match was never finished.
408
00:40:55,537 --> 00:40:58,540
What happened?
Dinamo left the pitch, right?
409
00:40:58,665 --> 00:41:01,418
No. Steaua left
because of an offside goal.
410
00:41:01,543 --> 00:41:03,086
Dinamo?
411
00:41:03,211 --> 00:41:04,296
No.
412
00:41:04,421 --> 00:41:05,255
Steaua.
413
00:41:05,380 --> 00:41:09,384
- They scored an offside goal?
- They scored an offside goal.
414
00:41:09,509 --> 00:41:13,305
No. Steaua scored a goal,
and they didn't allow it.
415
00:41:13,430 --> 00:41:15,307
Balint scored the goal.
416
00:41:15,432 --> 00:41:18,643
And the referee didn't allow it.
417
00:41:18,768 --> 00:41:20,479
Linesman George Ionescu called it.
418
00:41:20,604 --> 00:41:23,690
The referee was Radu Petrescu,
who died.
419
00:41:30,322 --> 00:41:33,575
The match stopped
and Dinamo took the cup.
420
00:41:33,700 --> 00:41:36,161
Moraru took it home.
421
00:41:36,286 --> 00:41:39,956
Then, I don't know how many
years after the revolution,
422
00:41:40,081 --> 00:41:42,834
they gave the cup back.
423
00:41:46,963 --> 00:41:52,511
- Why did you give Mihăescu a yellow?
- A late tackle.
424
00:41:52,636 --> 00:41:55,597
- But he wasn't the first, right?
- No.
425
00:41:58,016 --> 00:42:00,435
You wrote it all
in that little notebook.
426
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:02,687
- It was blue, no?
- Yes.
427
00:42:09,152 --> 00:42:14,157
All my kit was in my bag.
Your mother always packed it for me.
428
00:42:14,866 --> 00:42:16,701
Everything was in it.
429
00:42:20,747 --> 00:42:23,708
You were in the First League
when my brother cut up your...
430
00:42:23,833 --> 00:42:25,710
- What, my shorts?
- Yeah.
431
00:42:25,835 --> 00:42:27,045
Yeah.
432
00:42:27,170 --> 00:42:29,965
What match?
433
00:42:30,090 --> 00:42:31,591
Jiul versus Steaua.
434
00:42:37,556 --> 00:42:39,432
- Advantage.
- Yeah.
435
00:42:40,559 --> 00:42:44,271
Ok, that was a mistake, now I see,
436
00:42:44,396 --> 00:42:46,982
I let them play on advantage,
they took possession,
437
00:42:47,107 --> 00:42:50,986
but if it had been a more
dangerous tackle, then...
438
00:42:52,862 --> 00:42:56,032
Look how well Lupu's
protecting the ball.
439
00:42:56,157 --> 00:43:01,538
This pitch was good for him.
He was well-built and muscular,
440
00:43:01,663 --> 00:43:04,624
he had powerful legs and
441
00:43:05,875 --> 00:43:07,544
And technical, too...
442
00:43:17,512 --> 00:43:19,931
What's this,
an indirect free kick?
443
00:43:20,056 --> 00:43:23,560
A foul, but I shouldn't
have given it indirect.
444
00:43:23,685 --> 00:43:25,895
It should have been direct,
they made contact.
445
00:43:26,021 --> 00:43:30,108
I gave an indirect because
there was an obstruction.
446
00:43:30,233 --> 00:43:34,404
An obstruction doesn't mean contact.
447
00:43:34,529 --> 00:43:38,950
He got in front of him,
and they made contact.
448
00:43:42,912 --> 00:43:44,539
He barged him.
449
00:43:46,625 --> 00:43:53,214
It would be hard to score
from a direct kick anyway.
450
00:43:54,090 --> 00:43:56,593
He'd still have to pass.
451
00:44:21,868 --> 00:44:23,119
Dangerous tackle.
452
00:44:34,422 --> 00:44:37,050
You left him like that,
on the ground?
453
00:46:02,260 --> 00:46:05,096
They're asking for
a 2nd yellow for Ilie.
454
00:46:45,386 --> 00:46:46,513
Yes?
455
00:46:51,476 --> 00:46:52,769
Hello.
456
00:46:54,854 --> 00:46:57,106
Thanks...
457
00:46:57,232 --> 00:46:58,441
Bye.
458
00:47:12,247 --> 00:47:16,960
Yes, it was generally
a good first half...
459
00:47:19,045 --> 00:47:20,171
for Dinamo.
460
00:47:22,465 --> 00:47:24,551
Wow! What a foul.
461
00:47:28,930 --> 00:47:32,767
What's he saying?
"I didn't mean to."
462
00:47:37,605 --> 00:47:39,482
Did the players swear
at you behind your back?
463
00:47:39,607 --> 00:47:40,358
What?
464
00:47:40,483 --> 00:47:42,235
The players swore at you
behind your back?
465
00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:45,488
Who knows. If you hear them,
you hear them...
466
00:47:46,823 --> 00:47:49,868
No, they weren't swearing.
It was a clear yellow.
467
00:47:49,993 --> 00:47:52,662
Look what images these idiots
are showing now.
468
00:47:55,874 --> 00:47:58,376
And so many people...
469
00:48:23,109 --> 00:48:24,652
This was Dinamo's bench.
470
00:48:35,663 --> 00:48:39,584
Look, Flacăra Moreni and
ASA Tg. Mure, two satellite teams.
471
00:48:39,709 --> 00:48:42,086
Flacăra Moreni were with Dinamo,
472
00:48:43,254 --> 00:48:44,839
and ASA Tg. Mure...
473
00:48:45,715 --> 00:48:49,427
Tg. Mure were more honest.
They beat Steaua once.
474
00:48:49,552 --> 00:48:51,387
I was the referee.
475
00:49:02,148 --> 00:49:07,195
It seems to be snowing harder now.
476
00:49:08,154 --> 00:49:11,824
The snow started coming down
harder after the game started.
477
00:49:11,950 --> 00:49:16,621
If this snow had fallen
2 hours before the game,
478
00:49:16,746 --> 00:49:19,958
then we couldn't have played.
479
00:49:47,610 --> 00:49:50,488
Dinamo are now in blue.
480
00:49:52,657 --> 00:49:55,535
Look, Ianul.
481
00:49:55,660 --> 00:49:57,370
He died, too.
482
00:49:57,495 --> 00:50:01,624
They should really keep
the same colours.
483
00:50:03,710 --> 00:50:09,549
They didn't have
another white kit.
484
00:50:10,591 --> 00:50:13,136
Nowadays they wouldn't
allow this kind of thing.
485
00:50:16,723 --> 00:50:19,058
Yes, Viorel, tell me.
486
00:50:28,067 --> 00:50:30,194
You brought them already?
487
00:50:43,499 --> 00:50:44,625
The cakes?
488
00:51:03,186 --> 00:51:04,979
I'll call you later.
489
00:51:11,444 --> 00:51:15,490
Did they say at half time,
"We're changing shirts"?
490
00:51:15,615 --> 00:51:17,867
The rules actually don't allow
that kind of thing.
491
00:51:17,992 --> 00:51:21,412
You should keep the strip
you're playing in.
492
00:51:22,830 --> 00:51:28,252
It's not allowed now.
Back then, you could.
493
00:51:28,377 --> 00:51:32,507
You announced the kit before
the game, and you couldn't change it.
494
00:51:32,632 --> 00:51:35,468
The referee checked the kit
before the game.
495
00:51:35,593 --> 00:51:38,638
So, you were allowed, then?
496
00:51:39,764 --> 00:51:44,018
The rules said at half-time
you could announce the change.
497
00:51:45,645 --> 00:51:49,607
You could change the colour
of the shirt. Now you can't.
498
00:51:51,359 --> 00:51:53,820
It's snowing hard. It's covered.
499
00:51:56,197 --> 00:51:57,782
Real action!
500
00:52:00,910 --> 00:52:03,204
I think that's Lupu...
501
00:52:03,329 --> 00:52:04,872
- No, Cămătaru.
- Cămătaru?
502
00:52:10,002 --> 00:52:15,842
The picture quality
is from the stone age.
503
00:52:27,353 --> 00:52:29,397
They've brought Dragnea on.
504
00:53:24,577 --> 00:53:26,913
I should have given him
a yellow here.
505
00:53:27,038 --> 00:53:28,748
Did I? Let's see.
506
00:53:34,337 --> 00:53:36,005
He already had a yellow.
507
00:53:37,465 --> 00:53:39,592
It was Mihăescu.
He already had a yellow.
508
00:53:42,762 --> 00:53:48,059
Yes, Mihăescu did something
that deserved a warning.
509
00:53:48,184 --> 00:53:50,102
But he already had a yellow.
510
00:53:50,228 --> 00:53:53,689
To send a player off for
throwing the ball down is...
511
00:53:54,982 --> 00:53:57,818
No, I think I made
the right decision.
512
00:54:00,613 --> 00:54:05,117
It wasn't worth damaging the flow
of play for a stupid gesture.
513
00:54:12,959 --> 00:54:18,297
Back then if you kicked it to the
keeper he could pick it up.
514
00:54:18,422 --> 00:54:22,051
The rules of the game
have changed,
515
00:54:22,176 --> 00:54:26,430
because you wasted
lots of time picking it up.
516
00:54:28,557 --> 00:54:31,102
They changed it all
for the spectacle.
517
00:54:49,287 --> 00:54:51,289
What a slide!
518
00:54:58,129 --> 00:55:00,589
Dinamo is still playing
more aggressively.
519
00:55:05,803 --> 00:55:10,725
I don't remember, but I think that
based on league placement,
520
00:55:11,851 --> 00:55:14,979
Dinamo knew they needed to win.
521
00:55:15,104 --> 00:55:19,775
Steaua are playing aggressively,
but without conviction.
522
00:55:19,900 --> 00:55:22,778
But they're a more powerful team.
523
00:55:22,903 --> 00:55:25,865
That's Dragnea.
They brought him on.
524
00:56:20,169 --> 00:56:21,545
See how fast he is.
525
00:56:23,255 --> 00:56:23,881
What a cross!
526
00:56:26,342 --> 00:56:28,677
Who did that scissor-kick?
527
00:56:36,477 --> 00:56:37,728
Was it Lupu?
528
00:56:39,563 --> 00:56:40,856
Great execution.
529
00:56:40,981 --> 00:56:43,192
Sabău made the cross.
530
00:56:49,490 --> 00:56:51,867
Sabău set it up, but...
531
00:56:52,993 --> 00:56:56,288
- Sabău was on the right wing?
- On the right, he made the cross.
532
00:57:25,818 --> 00:57:32,616
Now, you can't pick it up,
you kick it back. It speeds up play.
533
00:57:46,797 --> 00:57:53,262
Dinamo have got
better possession.
534
00:57:54,388 --> 00:58:00,102
- They're better during this half.
- Dinamo were pretty frustrated.
535
00:58:00,227 --> 00:58:03,606
They'd been playing together
for a while, without much success.
536
00:58:03,731 --> 00:58:08,694
Steaua had won everything,
and now they were really annoyed.
537
00:58:08,819 --> 00:58:12,656
But they were a good team.
Stelea in goal,
538
00:58:12,781 --> 00:58:16,035
Mihăescu right-back,
Rednic, Andone...
539
00:58:17,077 --> 00:58:20,080
Who was the left-back, I wonder?
540
00:58:23,626 --> 00:58:26,337
I think it was Varga. Yes.
541
00:58:28,172 --> 00:58:29,590
And Lupescu in the middle.
542
00:58:29,715 --> 00:58:33,135
Perhaps they changed him
for Dragnea during half-time.
543
00:58:33,260 --> 00:58:36,180
- Mateu...
- I just saw Lupescu.
544
00:58:36,305 --> 00:58:39,225
- What?
- I just saw Lupescu...
545
00:58:39,350 --> 00:58:40,351
I don't understand.
546
00:58:40,476 --> 00:58:43,521
I saw Lupescu in the second half,
he made a pass.
547
00:58:43,646 --> 00:58:49,151
Probably. But Dragnea came on.
548
00:58:55,324 --> 00:58:58,369
Who's this fast guy, Piurcă?
549
00:58:58,494 --> 00:59:01,747
No. Lăcătu I think.
550
00:59:01,872 --> 00:59:05,042
All you can see
are black shadows.
551
00:59:25,104 --> 00:59:29,400
Someone's had an accident,
trying to attack. Who was it?
552
00:59:51,088 --> 00:59:56,051
It'd be great to have snow
like that right now, over here.
553
01:01:02,743 --> 01:01:05,204
They forgot to move the camera.
554
01:01:15,589 --> 01:01:18,550
Don't you think it looks like
one of my films?
555
01:01:18,676 --> 01:01:19,301
What?
556
01:01:19,426 --> 01:01:22,388
Don't you think this match
looks like one of my films?
557
01:01:22,513 --> 01:01:24,348
It's long, and nothing happens.
558
01:01:24,473 --> 01:01:25,849
Yeah, but...
559
01:01:29,853 --> 01:01:31,980
And you'd be the main character.
560
01:01:32,106 --> 01:01:34,650
And what would this
main character do?
561
01:01:34,775 --> 01:01:37,027
The referee who... No.
562
01:01:37,903 --> 01:01:41,448
And what would the film be about?
A match in the snow...
563
01:01:41,573 --> 01:01:45,119
that was almost unplayable, right?
564
01:01:46,495 --> 01:01:49,998
And the referee? I refereed well.
565
01:01:50,124 --> 01:01:54,420
It was a very difficult match,
like all the Dinamo-Steaua matches.
566
01:01:56,797 --> 01:01:59,883
I like the snow,
it has a certain poetry...
567
01:02:00,008 --> 01:02:02,302
There's no poetry here.
568
01:02:02,428 --> 01:02:05,931
What poetry is there in a football
pitch like a farmer's field?
569
01:02:06,056 --> 01:02:09,810
The pitch looks like
a farmer's field.
570
01:02:09,935 --> 01:02:12,938
It's all so archaic.
571
01:02:13,063 --> 01:02:14,940
It was 25 years ago.
572
01:02:17,025 --> 01:02:19,069
Yes, but it's not...
573
01:02:19,194 --> 01:02:24,283
Nobody would watch
this kind of thing now.
574
01:02:24,408 --> 01:02:28,996
Look at the great TV shows made
by Mitran. Have you seen them?
575
01:02:29,121 --> 01:02:35,210
Yeah, that's where I saw
20 minutes of this match.
576
01:02:35,335 --> 01:02:39,173
They showed 20 minutes,
they show all kinds of things,
577
01:02:39,298 --> 01:02:43,594
but nobody watches.
They have shitty ratings.
578
01:02:43,719 --> 01:02:46,972
They want to drop the show 'Replay'.
579
01:02:47,097 --> 01:02:53,145
There's no audience, even though
they show real national matches.
580
01:02:53,270 --> 01:02:56,774
Like Steaua winning the finals.
581
01:02:56,899 --> 01:02:59,109
People live in the present.
582
01:02:59,234 --> 01:03:03,989
Football is not a subject.
It's a perishable product.
583
01:03:04,114 --> 01:03:07,367
You have to consume it
straight away. Eat it now.
584
01:03:45,614 --> 01:03:47,991
What slide-tackles!
585
01:05:06,361 --> 01:05:08,906
Look how hard they're playing.
586
01:05:17,831 --> 01:05:19,833
Look at that...
587
01:05:19,958 --> 01:05:23,128
That was something.
588
01:05:24,212 --> 01:05:28,634
- What happened?
- They had a real chance there.
589
01:05:28,759 --> 01:05:31,345
They're really playing.
590
01:05:33,388 --> 01:05:35,349
They're not managing to score,
591
01:05:36,266 --> 01:05:41,897
but they're aggressive and combative.
592
01:05:42,022 --> 01:05:44,524
They have attitude.
593
01:05:50,238 --> 01:05:52,199
That's great receiving.
594
01:05:57,579 --> 01:06:00,499
I let them have the advantage.
595
01:06:00,624 --> 01:06:05,128
It's a shame we can't
rewind it to see it better.
596
01:06:05,253 --> 01:06:11,510
Someone pulled Cămătaru's shirt,
but he kept running.
597
01:06:11,635 --> 01:06:14,096
I allowed the advantage,
and couldn't change the decision.
598
01:06:14,221 --> 01:06:16,139
Today, I could have re-called it.
599
01:06:16,264 --> 01:06:21,144
- And you would have given...
- A free kick, from 20 metres.
600
01:06:21,269 --> 01:06:25,482
I was right. He had the advantage.
How could I stop him?
601
01:06:32,072 --> 01:06:34,866
They didn't cheat.
Nowadays, I think any striker
602
01:06:34,992 --> 01:06:38,745
falls over if someone
touches him, right?
603
01:07:02,144 --> 01:07:05,439
How they're playing!
Dinamo are playing really well.
604
01:07:10,902 --> 01:07:19,536
Looking back at the match,
Steaua were rated more highly.
605
01:07:20,537 --> 01:07:24,249
They were already wearing a halo from
their Champions League matches,
606
01:07:24,374 --> 01:07:28,962
or 'Liga Campionilor' as it was first known.
607
01:07:29,087 --> 01:07:32,340
But seeing the game again,
608
01:07:32,466 --> 01:07:36,928
Dinamo were dominating them
from just about every point of view.
609
01:07:37,054 --> 01:07:40,974
Steaua are a technical team,
a fast team, a team with...
610
01:07:41,099 --> 01:07:45,979
But the pitch wasn't to their
advantage. Dinamo had more power.
611
01:07:46,104 --> 01:07:50,817
But neither of them
had many chances to score.
612
01:07:53,236 --> 01:07:55,489
If he'd have managed
that scissor kick...
613
01:07:56,615 --> 01:07:58,742
It was hard on this pitch.
614
01:08:39,616 --> 01:08:41,201
But look now...
615
01:08:42,119 --> 01:08:44,371
This was their big chance.
616
01:08:52,254 --> 01:08:55,799
I like it. It's a beautiful match.
617
01:08:57,008 --> 01:09:00,011
There's no beauty in it,
618
01:09:00,137 --> 01:09:02,722
besides the players' tenacity.
619
01:09:02,848 --> 01:09:04,891
But they're technical.
620
01:09:05,016 --> 01:09:10,355
You can see it as they
come in on the left wing.
621
01:09:10,480 --> 01:09:12,816
They're dazzling.
622
01:09:57,903 --> 01:10:01,323
Were there times in the game
when you got tired?
623
01:10:05,577 --> 01:10:09,122
You had to be
physically prepared.
624
01:10:09,247 --> 01:10:13,293
They could get rid of you
in a second if you weren't careful.
625
01:10:13,418 --> 01:10:19,966
There were times
after long sprints that...
626
01:10:20,091 --> 01:10:24,095
Now I had to run, see?
627
01:10:26,431 --> 01:10:29,100
Keeping tight to the diagonal.
628
01:10:36,274 --> 01:10:38,610
What diagonal do you mean?
629
01:10:38,735 --> 01:10:44,616
The pitch is rectangular,
and you go along the diagonal.
630
01:10:45,742 --> 01:10:49,454
So we have this diagonal here,
631
01:10:49,579 --> 01:10:54,793
and you don't run straight down
the pitch, you take the diagonal.
632
01:10:55,877 --> 01:11:01,299
And you must always
keep the ball to your left.
633
01:11:01,424 --> 01:11:04,344
See how it is now?
634
01:11:04,469 --> 01:11:06,596
The ball is there.
635
01:11:06,721 --> 01:11:11,726
You go towards it, coming from
the right, along this long diagonal.
636
01:11:12,727 --> 01:11:16,648
You keep it tight until...
See? You get to here.
637
01:11:16,773 --> 01:11:20,235
And now... If they attack,
you come back on the left.
638
01:11:20,360 --> 01:11:22,988
If the other side attacks,
you go down their left.
639
01:11:23,113 --> 01:11:25,573
You run towards it,
coming from the left,
640
01:11:25,699 --> 01:11:30,036
so you can always have it
in your field of vision.
641
01:11:52,475 --> 01:11:54,019
He called offside.
642
01:12:53,745 --> 01:12:56,539
The wall was bad again.
643
01:13:40,708 --> 01:13:43,378
- That should be a yellow, no?
- No.
644
01:13:44,504 --> 01:13:46,005
But nowadays?
645
01:13:46,881 --> 01:13:48,258
- What?
- What about nowadays?
646
01:13:48,383 --> 01:13:50,593
No. Why should you
give a yellow?
647
01:13:50,718 --> 01:13:52,971
Because of a tackle from behind.
648
01:13:53,096 --> 01:13:58,810
Do you give a yellow just
because the wind blows harder?
649
01:13:58,935 --> 01:14:04,107
Why a yellow?
It's foul play, a shove.
650
01:14:13,950 --> 01:14:16,995
- I thought it came from behind.
- What?
651
01:14:17,120 --> 01:14:20,665
Today, everything from behind
gets a yellow.
652
01:14:20,790 --> 01:14:23,168
Not everything...
653
01:14:23,293 --> 01:14:26,129
A foul from behind?
654
01:14:29,424 --> 01:14:32,010
Only if it's a dangerous one.
655
01:14:37,390 --> 01:14:39,309
See how close I was?
656
01:14:48,526 --> 01:14:50,570
I had to be right in there.
657
01:15:54,259 --> 01:15:56,511
Mateu was a good striker.
658
01:15:58,263 --> 01:16:00,431
Yeah, Lupescu is on the pitch.
659
01:16:26,708 --> 01:16:27,875
Răducioiu.
660
01:16:28,793 --> 01:16:31,421
So young! How old was he?
661
01:16:32,463 --> 01:16:34,465
17? Like the number on his shirt?
662
01:16:34,591 --> 01:16:37,302
18-19...
663
01:16:38,303 --> 01:16:40,471
and Gabi Balint.
664
01:17:33,399 --> 01:17:34,984
What does he want?
665
01:17:38,363 --> 01:17:40,698
It's hard to see the line!
666
01:17:48,790 --> 01:17:50,416
Watch this...
667
01:17:58,841 --> 01:18:01,803
Steaua have started to push forward.
668
01:18:57,483 --> 01:18:58,443
Hagi...
669
01:19:04,824 --> 01:19:08,828
I don't notice your interventions
in the game anymore.
670
01:19:08,953 --> 01:19:12,248
- What?
- You really got into the game.
671
01:19:12,373 --> 01:19:16,127
You set the game through
your first interventions,
672
01:19:16,252 --> 01:19:19,130
then you just have to be careful
not to make mistakes.
673
01:19:21,382 --> 01:19:24,552
I think you depend
too much on advantage play.
674
01:19:24,677 --> 01:19:26,971
It worked, but it was risky.
675
01:20:03,925 --> 01:20:06,135
How fast they're passing.
676
01:20:10,765 --> 01:20:14,143
They're real footballers.
Such difficult executions!
677
01:20:14,268 --> 01:20:17,980
And what passes
on a pitch like this!
678
01:20:25,530 --> 01:20:28,199
They're the best of the best.
679
01:20:28,324 --> 01:20:29,992
Dangerous play.
680
01:20:38,668 --> 01:20:40,253
Cămătaru and who?
681
01:20:47,760 --> 01:20:50,137
Did he say
he was fit to play on?
682
01:20:51,514 --> 01:20:52,849
Belodedici.
683
01:22:21,812 --> 01:22:23,272
That's a foul.
684
01:22:38,663 --> 01:22:45,503
In fact, this snow started about
1-1½ hours before the match,
685
01:22:45,628 --> 01:22:48,005
but it wasn't as strong.
686
01:22:48,130 --> 01:22:52,093
If it had snowed
for 2-3 hours like this,
687
01:22:52,218 --> 01:22:54,220
the pitch would
have been unplayable,
688
01:22:54,345 --> 01:22:57,181
the snow would
have been too thick.
689
01:22:58,140 --> 01:23:00,142
But it snowed continually,
690
01:23:00,267 --> 01:23:04,605
it didn't stop
at all during the 90 minutes.
691
01:23:04,730 --> 01:23:05,982
And after?
692
01:23:07,441 --> 01:23:10,861
I don't know.
It might have kept snowing.
693
01:23:10,987 --> 01:23:14,240
It wasn't a hard winter.
694
01:23:34,176 --> 01:23:37,054
Steaua are wasting time now.
695
01:23:39,765 --> 01:23:42,852
Steaua are wasting time.
696
01:23:45,479 --> 01:23:47,940
I guess they were happy
with the score.
697
01:23:51,902 --> 01:23:54,321
But Dinamo were playing at home.
698
01:25:16,987 --> 01:25:20,533
What an advantage! Crossbar.
699
01:25:21,575 --> 01:25:26,163
I let them play the advantage.
It's a penalty.
700
01:25:26,288 --> 01:25:31,085
I let him play on - it was
just him and the keeper.
701
01:25:32,294 --> 01:25:37,174
It's a foul, the ball goes to Ilie.
He shoots and hits the bar.
702
01:25:37,299 --> 01:25:40,511
People talked about this a lot.
703
01:25:41,554 --> 01:25:43,722
I remember it well.
704
01:25:43,848 --> 01:25:49,228
With the new rules I could have
re-called it and given a penalty.
705
01:25:49,353 --> 01:25:51,522
The advantage didn't materialize.
706
01:25:51,647 --> 01:25:57,862
They played on
and he hit the bar.
707
01:25:57,987 --> 01:26:00,573
Interesting
I remember this part.
708
01:26:06,287 --> 01:26:09,039
We can't rewind it, no?
709
01:26:09,165 --> 01:26:10,541
No, we can't.
710
01:26:15,462 --> 01:26:17,882
That was a foul on...
711
01:26:18,007 --> 01:26:21,135
I think it was Piurcă, but it was
a clear foul in the box.
712
01:26:21,260 --> 01:26:23,179
You let them
play on advantage...
713
01:26:23,304 --> 01:26:27,558
He was 6 metres from the goal.
What more could he want?
714
01:26:27,683 --> 01:26:31,604
People criticised me after the match.
They said I should have given a penalty.
715
01:26:31,729 --> 01:26:36,442
But isn't being 6 metres from
the goal better than a penalty?
716
01:26:49,163 --> 01:26:52,833
You let them play advantage
the whole match.
717
01:26:52,958 --> 01:26:54,376
No, I...
718
01:26:55,461 --> 01:26:57,630
That's how you played it
from the start.
719
01:26:57,755 --> 01:27:00,049
No, it wasn't a mistake.
720
01:27:00,174 --> 01:27:02,801
He was on his own against the keeper,
721
01:27:02,927 --> 01:27:06,555
and hit the bar at 6 metres
722
01:27:06,680 --> 01:27:10,142
There's a saying:
723
01:27:11,518 --> 01:27:13,854
"You have the best
advantage at 11 metres."
724
01:27:16,273 --> 01:27:20,819
But if he'd scored, it would
have been a great advantage.
725
01:27:20,945 --> 01:27:24,740
No, it was the correct decision,
I've no reason to doubt it.
726
01:27:42,174 --> 01:27:43,884
What kind of criticism was there?
727
01:27:44,009 --> 01:27:46,428
Was it right afterwards,
in the changing rooms?
728
01:27:46,553 --> 01:27:51,350
No, it was the journalists.
729
01:27:51,475 --> 01:27:54,770
They commented on the decision.
730
01:27:54,895 --> 01:27:58,232
Because I'd let
the whole game flow as it did,
731
01:27:58,357 --> 01:28:01,235
there was no sense
to suddenly stop it then.
732
01:28:01,360 --> 01:28:03,779
If I'd have stopped play,
and he'd scored,
733
01:28:03,904 --> 01:28:05,614
if the ball hadn't hit the bar,
734
01:28:05,739 --> 01:28:09,368
then wouldn't it have been
a mistake to whistle for a penalty?
735
01:28:09,493 --> 01:28:15,958
But he was alone.
I signalled that Ilie had possession.
736
01:28:21,547 --> 01:28:26,552
If I were to joke about it, I'd say I
couldn't see the penalty spot anyway.
737
01:28:26,677 --> 01:28:29,013
I'd have to measure the distance.
738
01:28:29,138 --> 01:28:30,973
You couldn't see a thing!
739
01:28:31,098 --> 01:28:34,018
Look, where is
the 11 metres mark?
740
01:28:34,143 --> 01:28:36,228
Where do you kick from?
741
01:28:39,773 --> 01:28:46,822
If you made a mistake,
did you think about it a lot?
742
01:28:46,947 --> 01:28:50,701
No, it's like the dead. If you start
thinking about them, you're lost.
743
01:28:50,826 --> 01:28:52,703
No, I mean, after the match.
744
01:28:52,828 --> 01:28:57,833
Of course, after the match
I'd analyse everything.
745
01:28:59,626 --> 01:29:03,547
I'd watch it on video at home.
I'd analyse the tapes.
746
01:29:03,672 --> 01:29:05,799
I'd re-watch them.
747
01:29:09,386 --> 01:29:11,722
Look, look, what an advantage.
748
01:29:14,683 --> 01:29:15,601
Super!
749
01:29:17,227 --> 01:29:21,273
Look, it's so fluid.
750
01:29:27,237 --> 01:29:28,572
Right?
751
01:29:31,116 --> 01:29:36,455
If I'd stopped the game
it would have fragmented.
752
01:29:37,539 --> 01:29:39,375
Better to let them play!
753
01:29:54,223 --> 01:29:57,309
It was a fight to the death.
754
01:29:57,434 --> 01:29:58,477
Foul.
755
01:30:01,772 --> 01:30:05,526
Anyway, it's impossible
to referee a match perfectly, right?
756
01:30:09,530 --> 01:30:11,198
Perfectly?
757
01:30:11,323 --> 01:30:20,916
Look, the snow was...
the pitch was almost unplayable.
758
01:30:21,041 --> 01:30:23,210
Almost. But you couldn't...
759
01:30:24,586 --> 01:30:27,339
It's important to start a game,
760
01:30:27,464 --> 01:30:29,675
and equally important
to finish it.
761
01:30:52,990 --> 01:30:54,533
What a...
762
01:30:55,617 --> 01:30:57,327
What a struggle!
763
01:31:00,914 --> 01:31:02,791
You've started to like it.
764
01:31:02,916 --> 01:31:03,876
What?
765
01:31:04,001 --> 01:31:05,878
I said, you've started to like it.
766
01:31:07,754 --> 01:31:11,675
- The match.
- The match? Sure.
767
01:31:11,800 --> 01:31:13,135
Offside.
768
01:31:28,150 --> 01:31:29,651
How it snowed.
769
01:31:29,776 --> 01:31:32,613
The snowflakes
are even bigger now.
770
01:31:57,262 --> 01:32:03,685
What was really hard was
getting up close.
771
01:32:03,810 --> 01:32:08,857
You couldn't see the marks.
772
01:32:08,982 --> 01:32:13,320
If something happened
on the edge of the penalty area,
773
01:32:13,445 --> 01:32:16,031
then you couldn't see
the marks at all.
774
01:32:16,156 --> 01:32:19,785
You had to get close
to see the marks.
775
01:32:19,910 --> 01:32:24,998
But from this distance
you can't see.
776
01:33:18,635 --> 01:33:21,430
Look, it's Balint...
777
01:34:54,815 --> 01:34:56,566
Look how hard they're playing.
778
01:34:59,486 --> 01:35:01,571
That's it,
the whistle's coming.
779
01:35:01,697 --> 01:35:03,323
You see?
780
01:35:05,617 --> 01:35:09,287
No one's cheating,
they're not tripping each other.
781
01:35:09,413 --> 01:35:11,039
Look here...
782
01:35:17,546 --> 01:35:19,923
Kamikaze... Look at that...
783
01:35:25,887 --> 01:35:27,139
Foul.
784
01:35:28,390 --> 01:35:30,350
Didn't I call it?
785
01:35:30,475 --> 01:35:32,853
Play on advantage!
786
01:35:43,572 --> 01:35:45,198
Oh, my God...
787
01:35:48,577 --> 01:35:51,413
Look how hard they're playing!
788
01:36:48,678 --> 01:36:53,934
Look at this, straight from
one goal to another.
789
01:36:54,059 --> 01:36:57,020
See how the balance can shift?
790
01:36:59,898 --> 01:37:01,691
Look...
791
01:37:49,823 --> 01:37:51,491
I think I blow
the whistle now.
792
01:37:52,868 --> 01:37:54,744
Yeah.
793
01:37:54,870 --> 01:37:57,622
Bravo, old man. You refereed well.
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