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[rain falling]
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[thunder crashing]
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[mysterious dramatic music]
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[thunder crashing]
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[haunting instrumental music]
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- [Narrator] Fear is
in the mind, they say,
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but I strongly believe
that the eyes manufacture
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the fear that resides in the
mind.
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I have portrayed this in
the movie "Mountain Devil,"
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a film that was very
difficult to bring to life.
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A story about two hunters
coming face-to-face
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with something they had never
seen before,
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a creature that was
suppose to be just a myth
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was now pounding on the
outside of their cabin door.
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But the human strength lies in
the ability
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to think of a solution out of a
crisis.
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And there it was: Rifles.
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- [Hunter] Shoot, Randy, Shoot!
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[guns blasting]
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- [Narrator] To bring down
that Goliath, so they thought.
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To bury it and try to forget
what they just experienced.
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But even in death,
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the creature still haunted
those terrified hunters.
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"Mountain Devil" had
become a very long journey
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and I felt satisfied when it was
time
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to bring it to an audience
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and then finally laying it to
rest.
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Searching for the truth
about Frank Peterson
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had become a emotional roller
coaster for several years.
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At the end,
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I will always wonder if the
truth was in
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that eight millimeter film.
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I felt I had said all
I needed to say about
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the Bigfoot phenomena in
Pennsylvania.
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Until now.
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Several years ago,
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I stumbled upon a book
titled "The Creature,"
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and I found myself
asking the same questions
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as I did while making "Mountain
Devil."
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But the question had become,
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could I go to that place one
more time?
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It was this book that
re-lit those memories.
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So I wanted to understand
the inspiration for the book,
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"The Creature."
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What propelled that art?
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Was it fiction or non-fiction?
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I believe the author has
his side to the story,
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just like I have a reason for
mine.
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I began to analyze the
book from front to back,
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looking for clues on each page.
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And my first clue was the
publishing company itself,
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the Allegheny Press.
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After a little searching online
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I found the address but no phone
number.
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My best effort was to write a
letter
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and my efforts did pay
off with a response.
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[relaxing instrumental music]
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[upbeat instrumental music]
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[upbeat instrumental music
continues]
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[upbeat instrumental music
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- My name is John Tomikel
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and I am 91 years old.
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And I was at one time
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the publisher of "The Creature."
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We would go to conventions
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and there is where I
met the man Jan Klement.
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And we were friends.
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We were friendly but we were not
friends.
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At one convention
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he asked me if I would consider
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publishing a book that he wrote.
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And
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I said, "Well, what's it about?"
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And he said,
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"It's about my experiences with
Bigfoot."
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[mysterious instrumental music]
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[relaxing instrumental music]
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- [Jan] Sometimes the mind
plays strange tricks upon us
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and with the passage of time,
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we find it difficult to
separate truth from fantasy.
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Time has passed, about
two years to be exact,
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and I feel that I'd
better write down my story
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before it passes into the
gray area of unreality.
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[relaxing instrumental music
continues]
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I have never seen such
a creature in my life.
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My first impression was that
the creature was ape-like
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or man-like, about seven feet
tall
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and covered with brown hair.
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The creature seems very powerful
with well-developed legs
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and shoulder muscles.
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I felt very fortunate
to see such a creature.
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It was no longer folklore to me.
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[relaxing instrumental music
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- [Narrator] We needed
to find out more about
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the locations where this story
"The Creature" took place
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so we headed south to
Dunbar, Pennsylvania,
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to meet up
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with some of the leading
experts in the Bigfoot field
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for some answers.
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I started with Stan Gordon,
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who has been researching
the Bigfoot phenomena
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near the Chestnut Ridge for many
years.
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- I've heard people tell me that
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they're familiar with the book
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and I've heard some people say
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who they thought who
possibly was involved,
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but nobody really had any proof,
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any really good information.
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I remember many, many years ago
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I tried to do some follow up on
it
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but really couldn't get
anywhere.
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And I was so busy
investigating current reports,
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I really couldn't donate a lot
of time to the investigation.
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But it's a very, very
interesting story.
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The question is,
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is how much there is truthful
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and how much may not be?
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But it is a very interesting
story
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and I'll keep an open
mind to all possibilities.
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[relaxing instrumental music]
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- [Narrator] Could we be
on the trail of discovering
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who the author truly was
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and the possible location of
where
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this encounter took place?
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- [Researcher] "The Creature,"
the book,
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is possibly fiction or
non-fiction?
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I know I already asked these
questions,
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but I'm just kind of repeating
them.
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- I'd like to believe
that it's true but...
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And as far as percentage is
concerned,
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I would lean toward maybe
60/40 that it's true
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and 40 that it isn't.
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The way he described the
creature,
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it's pretty believable.
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But like I also have
said to many people that
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some of the nuances
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and the little characteristics
of the creature,
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it's really hard to believe
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as far as
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its behavior with Jan Klement.
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As far as just staring at each
other for periods of up to
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an hour and half, two hours at a
time,
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just looking at each other
and observing each other.
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No real close interaction,
of course, as he had written.
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I believe it's possible. I
really do.
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- My name's Eric Altman.
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I'm from North Huntington,
Pennsylvania,
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in the southwestern corner of
the state.
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And I did investigating
sightings
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and claims of a Bigfoot
creature for going on
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close to 22 years now.
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The book and experiences
that Jan wrote about
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are very detailed.
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He provides extremely
detailed information about
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the creature itself,
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some of it's unusual behaviors
and habits.
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And he talks about having
almost daily encounters
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with the creature.
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And at that time, back in the
mid-1970s,
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before the book was released,
there was little information
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that was released to the public.
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Just the general encounters
that Jan had in the book,
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so it's very intriguing to
read that kind of minute detail
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that he writes about in the
story.
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There were some theories that
were put out
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by a few experienced Bigfoot
researchers.
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Loren Coleman proposed a theory,
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I believe Loren proposed
it was chemistry professor,
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Dr. Paul Johnson at the
University of Duquesne.
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But upon questioning Paul,
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myself and other people have
asked him,
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he said he absolutely was
not the author of the book.
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We know the author of the book
claims that
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he was an earth science
professor
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at a small university in
the Pittsburgh region,
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although we don't know who it
is.
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- [Narrator] Dr. Paul
Johnson is a professor
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at a local university in
Pennsylvania.
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For many years, people in the
Bigfoot community thought that
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Dr. Johnson had written
the book "The Creature."
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We attempted to reach out
to him for an interview
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but he denied.
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He did send the following email
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with his thoughts on the matter.
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The following is his email:
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Around 1995, a writer for
the "Mountain Journal,"
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who had previously interviewed
me,
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ran across the book, "The
Creature" in a yard sale.
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He photocopied the pages
and mailed it to me.
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I was told that the publisher
knew the author's true name
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and promised never to reveal it.
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I read the book and
decided it was fictional.
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Apparently someone decided that
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the author was a college science
teacher
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in Western Pennsylvania
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and the author choose the
pseudonym
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because Roberto Clemente was
his favorite ball player,
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so he changed the letter C to a
K
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and dropped the letter E at the
end.
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For the next 20 years,
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many researchers suspected
that I was the author
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because Roberto was my
favorite ball player
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and, of course, I teach at a
university.
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I always told them I was not the
author.
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Dr. Paul G. Johnson.
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- One of the stipulations that
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the man Klement wanted
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was his identity not to be known
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because even I was ridiculing
him,
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and so he was really upset about
that.
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And so
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we had to have an author
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and so I gave him the name Jan
Klement
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which was the name of
one of my grandfathers.
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[relaxing instrumental music]
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- [Jan] For about a week
thereafter
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I set apples on the railing with
no luck.
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I would set out two apples at a
time
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and would not leave more
than that overnight.
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Why should the creature want my
apples
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when he could pick his own from
any of the wild apple trees
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that abound in the area?
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The creature's appearance
at my home escaped me.
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Deep down I still hope to
able to see it one more time.
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After several weeks,
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the creature appeared
again for some apples.
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He came from around the cabin
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and was standing four feet from
the porch.
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I stood still for a moment,
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then I made slight hand motions
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for the creature to come to me.
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I realized at once that it was
not a human
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and hand motions meant nothing,
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so I retrieved an apple
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and tossed it at the creature's
feet.
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He picked up the apples and
began to chomp down on them.
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I threw him another and another.
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And on the third apple I
spoke in low hushed tones,
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increasing my volume to
normal about the 10th apple.
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The creature loaded most
of these in his arms
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and walked to the bushes
at the end of the clearing
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and disappeared.
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- During the time it happened,
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of course I was out there
investigating with my teams
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so many of the Bigfoot
sightings here in Pennsylvania.
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And it was being covered
extensively
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by the local news media.
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It was on radio and TV.
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Newspapers were giving
it a lot of coverage.
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There were a lot of details
about some of my investigations
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that were coming out at the
time.
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[somber instrumental music]
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- I guess I'm not surprised in
that
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a pact had been made with
the publisher with regard to
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not letting out the factual
information with regard to that.
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Especially if you can...
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The element of trust is
probably as strong today
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as it was yesteryear,
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but there had to be
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a good bond between the
author and the publisher
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in order to keep that story
safe.
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- If the author of the
book is still living today,
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there could be terms
that could be acceptable
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and agreed upon
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where the author could
still remain anonymous,
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that the alleged burial site
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would remain secret and
confidential,
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that even today, years later,
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a forensic scientific
investigation
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could be done on the site.
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And this author indicated that
he was very concerned over
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preserving the species
of this unknown creature.
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And if that was the case,
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this would help to first
strongly indicate
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and strongly confirm that
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there's some type of unknown
species of creature out there
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but may also help to protect
this unknown species as well.
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- We don't know exactly
where the cabin that
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he called The Diggins' was
or where it burned down,
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so we can't really
validate that information
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to say the book was a legitimate
book.
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However, it does provide
a lot of details to it,
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especially to the creature,
his experiences with Kong.
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He does describe a lot of the
area
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and where the book may have
taken place
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in the Dunbar Mountains,
the Southern Chestnut Ridge
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in Southwestern PA, Fayette
County.
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continues]
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- [Loren] The book was
brought to my attention
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by other researchers
and it was so detailed.
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It was so realistic
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in terms of
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how I knew from my
investigations
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for over 50 years
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how people really do approach
contact.
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And what was remarkable was
done so matter-of-factly.
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I knew a lot of
researchers in Pennsylvania
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back in the 60s and 70s
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and thought maybe I could
even figure out who it was,
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the biology professor or at one
point,
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he called himself an
earth science professor.
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So it was nicely hidden in the
story,
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all of the clues to who this
was.
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And I asked various people,
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some of whom I even knew as
professors.
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They all denied being that
individual.
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But it did seem like,
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it definitely seemed like
there was something to there.
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It was a very privately
published publication
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and I felt that the
person that published it
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was perhaps the same person
that was being the hero
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or the narrator in the book.
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So I certainly think that's a
possibility.
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continues]
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[relaxing instrumental music]
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- [Jan] The next evening he
returned a little earlier
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and took apples from my hand,
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but would not really let me get
near him.
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As long as the railing
was between us he was calm
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and when I went to leave the
porch,
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he would walk away and
watch me over his shoulder.
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As you the viewer may ask,
"Was I not frightened?"
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I was terrified and
excited at the same time.
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I knew this creature could
end my life very quickly
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if it wanted to.
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On one occasion, a young
deer came up to the field.
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The creature noticed it and
quickly leaped to its feet
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and was off like a flash of
lighting.
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[relaxing instrumental music
continues]
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[birds chirping]
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[leaves rustling]
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[mouth chomping]
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[footsteps crunching]
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His speed was fantastic
and he ran the deer down
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before it got more than a 100
feet away.
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[footsteps crunching]
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He picked it up in his powerful
hands
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and slammed it to the ground.
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I assume, killing it instantly.
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Instead of returning to me,
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he put the deer under his arm
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and stalked off through the
brush.
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I did not see him again for five
days.
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I worried that the creature
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might want to try human flesh at
first,
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but after a while the
thought did not bother me.
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He ate none of his food in front
of me
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and perhaps he did not eat it at
all.
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I wondered if he had family
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and perhaps he was feeding them
that deer.
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That day I decided to give him a
name.
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I gave him the name Kong.
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[enchanting instrumental music]
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- He asked for all kinds of
guarantees.
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That I wouldn't mention his name
anywhere
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and that as far as he was
concerned he didn't exist.
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So that was
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one of the bargains that I made
with him
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and
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so far I have stuck to that
bargain.
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[enchanting instrumental music
continues]
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- [Narrator] I reached out to
Steve Kulls,
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a Bigfoot Investigator
located in Upstate New York.
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Steve had done extensive
research
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into the book "The
Creature," and the author.
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I wanted to get his ideas
on who the author could be
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and if the story held any merit.
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- Well, the first was to do
was actually read the book.
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And in my copy of the book
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I highlighted a number of
sections in it
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that contained biographical
data if you read the book.
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So in this case, Jan Klement is,
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well, the whole thing wrapped in
one.
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So I need to look at him as a
person
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to see, kind of build a profile.
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So I was looking for a college
professor
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who taught earth science,
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who got divorced shortly
after the book got published,
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who was in the military service
in 1952
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to '54 specifically.
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No person named Jan Klement
existed.
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I mean, I've run it even
through background services
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and it was a no-go.
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The funny thing is in
conversation
with some of the locals,
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one of them being,
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and I believe he's an
entomologist in the area
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who has a fascination
with the Bigfoot mystery,
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actually knew of a Klement's
Point.
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And this got me really
excited because I'm thinking,
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"Maybe the place does exist."
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So I get on the Google Maps
and look at the satellite shots
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and one of the giveaways in
the later editions was that
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the cabin in the 80s had been
burned down
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but the footprint of
the cabin still exists.
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And this Klement's Point had
this footprint of this cabin
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with a pond which back in
the 60s and 70s, early 70s,
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overlooked cow pastures so it
really fit.
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[enchanting instrumental music
continues]
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[relaxing instrumental music]
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- [Jan] My efforts at tracking
Kong were always in vain
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for he left no trails
or tracks of any kind.
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The forest area has many large
rock formations and caves.
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I often wondered if Kong
stayed in one of the caves
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in the area.
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Unfortunately, no Kong today.
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[relaxing instrumental music
continues]
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- Once again, attributed to the
fact that
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I'm sure he was a very
knowledgeable educated man
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in quite a few science fields.
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And, of course, he had a base of
friends.
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He had the zoology professor,
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anthropology people that
he could confer with
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in neighboring universities,
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whether it be Waynesburg
College,
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whether it be California State
College.
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Back then they weren't
universities.
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So he was handed, I think,
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a platter of good information
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that he would be to write from
in a very believable manner.
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- Yeah, I've been doing
this now going on 61 years.
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I knew many of the main people
involved in Bigfoot research
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back in those days and I've
learned of many others since,
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and I've never heard it brought
up
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that anybody who was involved
in investigations actively
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may have been involved with the
book.
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I've heard rumors of people who
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may have been involved with the
book
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that other people were following
up
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and trying to find out
who this person might be.
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But to be honest with you,
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I was so busy investigating
other reports
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I really didn't have time
to follow up on the book.
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[relaxing instrumental music
continues]
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I would think that somebody
who had their first encounter
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as talked about in the book,
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they would have gone
through much more detail.
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Also the behavior of the
creature
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that's described in the book.
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So the author is talking
about the fact that
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this creature after a period of
time
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begins to make frequent, almost
daily,
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visits to the property,
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that they're actually
having meals together
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and they get very close.
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And that's something again of
the
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hundreds of Bigfoot cases I've
worked on,
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this is something that
just doesn't come up.
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- The author, he's using a pen
name.
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We don't know exactly where the
cabin
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that he called The Diggins'
was or where it burned down,
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so we can't really
validate that information.
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However, without any way
to validate who he was
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or where the actual cabin sat,
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we can't follow up on those
claims.
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And to this day,
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no one really knows if it is a
non-fiction
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or a fictional book.
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- [Researcher] This road
in particular is where
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Jan Klement had taken
Kong after Kong's death,
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from the northern portion
towards Chestnut Ridge
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and Dunbar Township and Game
Lands 51,
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in a south direction onto Wind
Gaps Road
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and decided he was going
to bury the creature.
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He did so off to the side of the
road
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because it was very handy.
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Unfortunately, also cumbersome
in that
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he was trying to handle
the weight of the creature
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by himself.
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- I believe I was looking at a
map,
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I wanna say circa 1968,
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1967, somewhere in there of that
area.
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And sure enough, there was
a pull-off before the border
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and there looked like there
could be
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some trails in that particular
area.
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The description in the book
says that he could see the hill,
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over the next hill was
actually West Virginia.
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So that could really only equate
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for three different areas really
that where he would be able
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to see a hill on the
other side of the border.
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00:29:12,923 --> 00:29:16,685
So it came down to like three
different fingers almost
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as this site came.
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But getting out to that site
is the last step, you know?
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[soft mysterious music]
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- [Narrator] It seemed as if
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I had more questions than
answers.
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Who was this mystery writer?
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00:29:42,159 --> 00:29:45,887
And why would they hide
after writing such a story?
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My thoughts ran in several
directions.
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Was the story even true?
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00:29:51,548 --> 00:29:53,412
Or a complex hoax?
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00:29:54,931 --> 00:29:57,934
Or could there be the remains of
a Bigfoot
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in the foothills of Pennsylvania
waiting to be discovered?
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00:30:06,494 --> 00:30:09,877
I headed north towards
Indiana, Pennsylvania,
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to meet up with another
group of Bigfoot researchers
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and hoped to find an answer to
the mystery of the creature.
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[soft mysterious music
continues]
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00:30:35,661 --> 00:30:39,561
- I am the Director of the
Fayette County
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Pennsylvania Bigfoot Research
Project
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and also West Virginia Center
for Unexplained Events.
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- [Researcher] And your name is?
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- Fred Saluga.
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[camera snapping]
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I believe he may have had some
interaction with the Bigfoot
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but I don't think that, I mean,
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00:30:58,546 --> 00:31:00,720
towards the end of the book
where he chopped him up and that
508
00:31:00,755 --> 00:31:02,619
I don't really believe that.
509
00:31:02,653 --> 00:31:05,656
But again, with the apple,
the apples and that.
510
00:31:05,691 --> 00:31:08,556
And also, I recently went out
511
00:31:08,590 --> 00:31:10,489
and was doing some research
on the police chief
512
00:31:10,523 --> 00:31:13,354
because he talked about the
police chief had nine kids.
513
00:31:13,388 --> 00:31:17,841
And I talked to a lady in
a township up by Dunbar.
514
00:31:17,876 --> 00:31:19,360
She said that the police chief
up there
515
00:31:19,394 --> 00:31:22,397
had anywhere between seven to
nine kids.
516
00:31:22,432 --> 00:31:24,089
So it's very possible
that was the police chief,
517
00:31:24,123 --> 00:31:25,055
but he's dead now.
518
00:31:30,681 --> 00:31:32,787
- Yeah, we have talked
to people about the book
519
00:31:32,821 --> 00:31:36,411
and it seems like a lot of
people don't believe in it.
520
00:31:36,446 --> 00:31:38,689
There's always that but, you
know?
521
00:31:38,724 --> 00:31:41,485
What if there is some truth in
this book?
522
00:31:42,866 --> 00:31:44,972
- Did he write it to be so
unbelievable
523
00:31:45,006 --> 00:31:48,009
that people wouldn't believe
it so they wouldn't pursue
524
00:31:48,044 --> 00:31:52,496
the location that maybe
it actually did happen?
525
00:31:52,531 --> 00:31:55,327
[camera snapping]
526
00:31:55,361 --> 00:31:57,950
Even though you say there
wasn't many resources back then,
527
00:31:57,985 --> 00:31:59,193
we did not have the internet
528
00:31:59,227 --> 00:32:01,298
but there were many books
written
529
00:32:01,333 --> 00:32:03,956
back in the 60s and 70s on
Bigfoot
530
00:32:03,991 --> 00:32:06,545
and there were a lot of
articles and magazines out.
531
00:32:06,579 --> 00:32:10,238
So he did have that as resources
as opposed to the internet.
532
00:32:10,273 --> 00:32:11,067
- [Researcher] Do you really
believe
533
00:32:11,101 --> 00:32:13,000
this guy had that experience?
534
00:32:13,034 --> 00:32:14,933
- Ah...
535
00:32:14,967 --> 00:32:19,627
I would not say he
completely didn't, all right?
536
00:32:19,661 --> 00:32:22,009
I believe that there are people
537
00:32:22,043 --> 00:32:25,150
that actually been talking to
Bigfoot for the last 15 years.
538
00:32:25,184 --> 00:32:28,187
I mean, down in West Virginia
they were telling us that
539
00:32:28,222 --> 00:32:30,224
they used to run the
Bigfoot out of the barn
540
00:32:30,258 --> 00:32:32,502
because he was eating the cow
stuff.
541
00:32:32,536 --> 00:32:35,539
I think Bigfoot was like a
family member to a lot of
people.
542
00:32:39,336 --> 00:32:40,579
- Now the first time I read the
book,
543
00:32:40,613 --> 00:32:43,478
I just read it through
as just reading a story.
544
00:32:43,513 --> 00:32:46,274
The second time I was paying
more attention to the details
545
00:32:46,309 --> 00:32:48,000
and trying to figure things out.
546
00:32:49,174 --> 00:32:51,141
But it says in the book that
everything,
547
00:32:51,176 --> 00:32:54,420
names have been changed,
locations have been changed.
548
00:32:54,455 --> 00:32:57,216
So could it have been somewhere
else?
549
00:32:57,251 --> 00:33:00,185
Could it have been actually
in the area of Fayette County
550
00:33:00,219 --> 00:33:02,566
and Dunbar, like it says in the
book,
551
00:33:02,601 --> 00:33:05,052
and he's just trying to throw
people off?
552
00:33:05,086 --> 00:33:06,294
Who knows?
553
00:33:06,329 --> 00:33:08,331
It coulda happened in West
Virginia, Ohio, Pennsylvania.
554
00:33:09,228 --> 00:33:11,368
- It was very general what he
said,
555
00:33:11,403 --> 00:33:12,645
so it would be kinda like
556
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:14,199
looking for a needle in a
haystack.
557
00:33:14,233 --> 00:33:15,027
- [Terrie] Exactly.
558
00:33:15,062 --> 00:33:16,235
- [Brian] Where exactly it was.
559
00:33:16,270 --> 00:33:19,342
So that's why we never
researched it ourself.
560
00:33:22,172 --> 00:33:25,279
- [Loren] When you think
about it, 1976 was so early.
561
00:33:26,383 --> 00:33:30,594
That's why a lot of people
never really discovered
562
00:33:32,631 --> 00:33:35,703
the book, "The Creature," until
the 80s
563
00:33:35,737 --> 00:33:37,981
because it kinda got lost.
564
00:33:38,016 --> 00:33:41,226
It was almost like this
guy had this experience,
565
00:33:41,260 --> 00:33:43,331
he wanted to self-publish it
566
00:33:43,366 --> 00:33:46,679
and sort of get it off his
chest,
567
00:33:46,714 --> 00:33:49,441
and it wasn't really promoted.
568
00:33:49,475 --> 00:33:52,478
It wasn't a book that was pushed
a lot
569
00:33:52,513 --> 00:33:55,447
or even shared with that many
other people
570
00:33:55,481 --> 00:33:57,035
so I found it
571
00:33:58,105 --> 00:34:02,557
kind of engaging at some
level for that reason
572
00:34:02,592 --> 00:34:06,630
because it wasn't a book that
was produced
573
00:34:06,665 --> 00:34:07,666
to make a lot of money.
574
00:34:07,700 --> 00:34:08,770
It seemed to be a very
575
00:34:08,804 --> 00:34:11,532
personal mission of the one
individual
576
00:34:13,327 --> 00:34:16,399
who had an experience
and wanted to publish it.
577
00:34:23,337 --> 00:34:24,371
- Well, I'll tell you what.
578
00:34:24,407 --> 00:34:25,649
No matter what, I'm gonna have a
beer.
579
00:34:25,684 --> 00:34:28,824
- That's right. Ya gotta chug
down a couple more of these.
580
00:34:28,859 --> 00:34:30,860
- Yeah, that's why I'm here.
581
00:34:30,896 --> 00:34:33,105
- [Jan] I did wish to
tell someone about Kong
582
00:34:33,139 --> 00:34:35,003
but whom could I trust?
583
00:34:35,038 --> 00:34:36,487
My choice was Joe,
584
00:34:36,522 --> 00:34:40,181
a friend whom I occasionally
beleaguered with confidences.
585
00:34:40,216 --> 00:34:43,529
I asked Joe to meet me
one afternoon after work.
586
00:34:43,563 --> 00:34:45,773
We walked around drinking a few
beers
587
00:34:45,806 --> 00:34:48,120
and I tossed a few
apples out into the yard
588
00:34:48,155 --> 00:34:50,121
hoping Kong would come out.
589
00:34:50,157 --> 00:34:52,745
I could tell Joe was just
here to drink my beer
590
00:34:52,780 --> 00:34:54,299
and make small talk.
591
00:34:54,333 --> 00:34:55,748
He had no other interest.
592
00:34:55,783 --> 00:34:58,268
I decided to keep my secret to
myself.
593
00:35:04,757 --> 00:35:05,689
One afternoon I thought
594
00:35:05,724 --> 00:35:08,416
I would try to get
Kong's picture as proof.
595
00:35:08,451 --> 00:35:09,452
I was sitting on the porch
596
00:35:09,486 --> 00:35:11,937
as he chomped down on a few
apples.
597
00:35:11,971 --> 00:35:14,802
I pulled out the camera
slowly from my pocket
598
00:35:14,836 --> 00:35:17,701
and Kong immediately
got up and walked off.
599
00:35:17,736 --> 00:35:20,118
This occurred on several
occasions.
600
00:35:20,152 --> 00:35:23,569
I could not understand Kong's
fear of the metallic objects
601
00:35:23,604 --> 00:35:27,884
and so I started to read
voraciously on primate behavior.
602
00:35:27,918 --> 00:35:30,024
One source by George Shaler
603
00:35:30,058 --> 00:35:33,924
and his experiences with
gorillas were similar to mine.
604
00:35:33,959 --> 00:35:35,236
His books were published by
605
00:35:35,271 --> 00:35:39,585
the University of Chicago
Press in 1963 and 1974.
606
00:35:45,143 --> 00:35:46,144
He states that
607
00:35:46,178 --> 00:35:48,284
until the gorillas were
thoroughly used to him,
608
00:35:48,318 --> 00:35:50,872
he never looked them directly in
the eye
609
00:35:50,907 --> 00:35:54,048
nor did he point a pair of
field glasses or camera at them
610
00:35:54,082 --> 00:35:56,154
in case they might have
interpreted the staring eye
611
00:35:56,188 --> 00:35:58,535
or the eye of the camera as a
threat.
612
00:35:58,570 --> 00:36:01,366
There was no reason for Kong
to be threatened around me,
613
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:03,713
so my attempts at taking
pictures ended.
614
00:36:08,407 --> 00:36:10,168
- Well, there's a lot of
activity there right now
615
00:36:10,202 --> 00:36:12,066
but it's not being reported
again.
616
00:36:12,100 --> 00:36:13,999
A lot of people don't wanna
say nuthin' to anybody
617
00:36:14,033 --> 00:36:16,035
because they think they're
goofy.
618
00:36:16,070 --> 00:36:18,383
So they don't really say
anything.
619
00:36:20,143 --> 00:36:25,010
We recently had sightings,
people talking about sightings,
620
00:36:25,044 --> 00:36:27,599
of a dog body and human heads.
621
00:36:27,633 --> 00:36:29,325
And we got four of them
from four different people,
622
00:36:29,359 --> 00:36:32,051
so I mean, did they really see
that?
623
00:36:32,086 --> 00:36:33,156
I mean, again,
624
00:36:34,709 --> 00:36:37,436
Bigfoot sightings around
here all the time.
625
00:36:37,471 --> 00:36:39,231
- Well, one of the-
626
00:36:39,266 --> 00:36:43,787
We always heard that Paul
Johnson was one of the gentleman
627
00:36:43,822 --> 00:36:45,099
who actually wrote the book.
628
00:36:45,133 --> 00:36:46,100
We know Paul pretty well.
629
00:36:46,134 --> 00:36:47,205
We've known him for-
630
00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:48,413
He's a member of our
organization
631
00:36:48,447 --> 00:36:51,623
and we've known him for
probably about 15 years I think
632
00:36:51,657 --> 00:36:54,384
and he assures us that it wasn't
him.
633
00:36:54,419 --> 00:36:56,731
- [Researcher] Do you
think the book was a hoax?
634
00:36:56,766 --> 00:37:01,219
- I think there was some
possible truth to it.
635
00:37:02,875 --> 00:37:05,533
But I mean, if you read the
whole thing
636
00:37:05,568 --> 00:37:07,121
you could look it as being true
637
00:37:07,155 --> 00:37:08,122
and you could look at
it as not being true,
638
00:37:08,156 --> 00:37:09,365
whichever way you wanna look at
it.
639
00:37:09,399 --> 00:37:10,711
I mean...
640
00:37:10,745 --> 00:37:11,643
- Possibly.
641
00:37:11,677 --> 00:37:13,783
Also with this documentary
coming out,
642
00:37:13,817 --> 00:37:15,647
maybe if it gets into
the hands of more people
643
00:37:15,681 --> 00:37:17,096
you might get a breakthrough
644
00:37:17,131 --> 00:37:19,064
and somebody might actually
come up to you and say,
645
00:37:19,098 --> 00:37:21,239
"I actually think I know who it
was,"
646
00:37:21,273 --> 00:37:23,793
and they may be able to direct
you towards
647
00:37:23,827 --> 00:37:24,966
where The Diggins' actually are,
648
00:37:25,001 --> 00:37:30,006
so you could be actually
helping find the truth out
649
00:37:30,317 --> 00:37:34,044
by this documentary coming out.
650
00:37:34,079 --> 00:37:37,910
[relaxing instrumental music]
651
00:37:43,847 --> 00:37:48,852
- As do I think the author
had a stable mental health?
652
00:37:50,129 --> 00:37:53,512
And the answer is definitely
yes.
653
00:37:53,547 --> 00:37:55,307
Definitely yes.
654
00:37:55,342 --> 00:37:58,034
He started out as a
655
00:38:00,381 --> 00:38:02,072
high school teacher
656
00:38:03,108 --> 00:38:06,698
and he ended up as a
657
00:38:07,561 --> 00:38:10,011
part-time teacher in college
658
00:38:10,046 --> 00:38:12,186
and then a full-time teacher.
659
00:38:13,774 --> 00:38:16,915
And in my association with him,
660
00:38:16,949 --> 00:38:21,851
he was perfectly normal and
logical.
661
00:38:21,885 --> 00:38:22,714
And
662
00:38:24,612 --> 00:38:28,271
we never developed a
really firm friendship,
663
00:38:28,306 --> 00:38:32,965
but in our association the
only time he got mad was
664
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:34,312
when I challenged
665
00:38:36,624 --> 00:38:38,212
his authenticity.
666
00:38:40,835 --> 00:38:43,010
- [Jan] It had been several
months of Kong visiting me
667
00:38:43,044 --> 00:38:44,632
and eating my apples.
668
00:38:44,667 --> 00:38:48,256
I had grown use to him and
welcomed every chance to see
him.
669
00:38:48,291 --> 00:38:52,260
He was probably my best friend
and he didn't even know it.
670
00:38:52,295 --> 00:38:54,849
In our many hours of just
sitting and squatting
671
00:38:54,884 --> 00:38:56,264
and looking at each other,
672
00:38:56,299 --> 00:38:58,715
there seemed to be no purpose on
his part.
673
00:38:58,750 --> 00:39:01,166
He seemed to anticipate that
I would devise something
674
00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:03,479
or do something to give him
something.
675
00:39:03,513 --> 00:39:05,412
It does not seem strange to me
676
00:39:05,446 --> 00:39:08,104
that we would sit and look
at each other for hours.
677
00:39:08,138 --> 00:39:11,728
The longest Kong and I stared
at each other in one stretch
678
00:39:11,763 --> 00:39:14,352
was roughly 2 1/2 hours.
679
00:39:14,386 --> 00:39:16,388
During one of our staring
sessions,
680
00:39:16,423 --> 00:39:20,012
Kong did actually move toward
me and touch my finger.
681
00:39:20,047 --> 00:39:21,600
We touched for a brief moment
682
00:39:21,635 --> 00:39:25,259
and he turned back to his
squatting spot and ate his
apples.
683
00:39:25,293 --> 00:39:27,261
He was obviously shy of humans,
684
00:39:27,295 --> 00:39:30,575
yet he had made contact with
me and seemed to enjoy it.
685
00:39:30,609 --> 00:39:32,715
Or at least he kept coming back
for more.
686
00:39:36,063 --> 00:39:38,410
[relaxing instrumental music
continues]
687
00:39:38,445 --> 00:39:40,378
- [Narrator] We traveled
north to meet with
688
00:39:40,412 --> 00:39:43,795
a group of Bigfoot
researchers from Cryptovania,
689
00:39:43,829 --> 00:39:45,348
Bigfoot researchers who are
690
00:39:45,383 --> 00:39:49,317
on the cutting-edge of finding
proof that Bigfoot exists.
691
00:39:49,352 --> 00:39:51,078
We met with Tommy Cooper
692
00:39:51,112 --> 00:39:53,908
and his team for a late
night investigation
693
00:39:53,943 --> 00:39:55,323
and to get their opinion
694
00:39:55,358 --> 00:39:58,326
if the story of "The
Creature" was possible.
695
00:40:01,364 --> 00:40:04,367
- [Researcher] As far as the
animal getting used to you,
696
00:40:04,402 --> 00:40:07,508
becoming sort of like friends
type thing?
697
00:40:08,647 --> 00:40:10,649
- Personally, I would never tell
anyone
698
00:40:10,684 --> 00:40:12,444
not to do it or to do it.
699
00:40:12,479 --> 00:40:14,964
Me personally, I don't think
it's a good idea though.
700
00:40:15,965 --> 00:40:17,207
I think there's a reason
701
00:40:17,242 --> 00:40:19,796
we don't have a good
relationship
with these creatures.
702
00:40:19,831 --> 00:40:23,179
And quite frankly, I
think in a lot of ways
703
00:40:23,213 --> 00:40:24,870
they're a lot smarter than we
are.
704
00:40:24,905 --> 00:40:27,666
And I don't think that's a
relationship
705
00:40:27,701 --> 00:40:30,428
that people should seek to get
into.
706
00:40:30,462 --> 00:40:33,085
I mean, it's something fun
707
00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:36,261
and interesting and exhilarating
to study.
708
00:40:36,295 --> 00:40:41,059
But as far as buddying up
with one or with a group,
709
00:40:41,093 --> 00:40:42,094
I think it's a bad idea.
710
00:40:42,129 --> 00:40:44,234
I think you're asking
for trouble honestly.
711
00:40:44,269 --> 00:40:46,409
- [Researcher] Kinda like
the guy with the brown bear.
712
00:40:46,444 --> 00:40:47,652
- Yeah the Grizzly Man, yeah.
713
00:40:47,686 --> 00:40:48,756
- [Researcher] Grizzly bear.
714
00:40:48,791 --> 00:40:51,000
- Yeah. That may or may
not happen, I don't know.
715
00:40:51,034 --> 00:40:55,487
But there's a reason that
the stories of the Wild Men
716
00:40:55,522 --> 00:40:57,178
persist all through history
717
00:40:57,213 --> 00:41:00,492
but yet it's still
something that's so rare
718
00:41:00,527 --> 00:41:04,151
that most people question its
existence.
719
00:41:04,185 --> 00:41:05,221
- [Researcher] "The Creature,"
720
00:41:05,255 --> 00:41:06,671
the book that we're really
investigating,
721
00:41:06,705 --> 00:41:08,051
would you say that that author
722
00:41:08,086 --> 00:41:10,571
probably gave his story in that
book?
723
00:41:11,503 --> 00:41:12,504
- Yes.
724
00:41:12,539 --> 00:41:13,160
- [Researcher] There was
no internet, you know?
725
00:41:13,194 --> 00:41:14,299
- Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah.
726
00:41:14,333 --> 00:41:18,890
And you had the written word
and books and magazines,
727
00:41:18,924 --> 00:41:20,132
and that was really it.
728
00:41:20,167 --> 00:41:22,341
And even then, stuff was
729
00:41:24,033 --> 00:41:29,038
you had to fit your narrative
to who was writing the check.
730
00:41:30,039 --> 00:41:32,524
Unlike now,
731
00:41:32,559 --> 00:41:35,769
if you wanted to put out
a book in the 70s and 80s,
732
00:41:35,803 --> 00:41:37,943
you really had to fill it with
733
00:41:37,978 --> 00:41:40,498
what the editors wanted
you to fill it with.
734
00:41:40,532 --> 00:41:43,535
And nowadays, anybody can
publish a book.
735
00:41:43,570 --> 00:41:48,298
I can pick an idea out of the
air and write a book about it
736
00:41:48,333 --> 00:41:51,474
and have it published
on Amazon within a month
737
00:41:51,509 --> 00:41:55,305
with very low monetary
investment.
738
00:41:55,340 --> 00:41:57,515
And that's really freeing.
739
00:41:58,654 --> 00:42:00,310
- This was based on...
740
00:42:01,484 --> 00:42:02,692
"Mountain Devil 2," is based on
741
00:42:02,727 --> 00:42:04,211
a book called "The Creature,"
742
00:42:05,246 --> 00:42:06,558
and a lot of people that we
talked to,
743
00:42:06,593 --> 00:42:09,319
or some of the people we talked
to, say, "That's ridiculous.
744
00:42:09,354 --> 00:42:11,563
"There's a lot of fake stuff in
there."
745
00:42:11,598 --> 00:42:12,806
But, okay.
746
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:16,430
What's your thoughts on could
a real story be wound into
747
00:42:17,914 --> 00:42:20,676
something that was exaggerated
a little bit to make a story?
748
00:42:20,710 --> 00:42:21,953
You know?
749
00:42:21,987 --> 00:42:24,680
- Well, I mean, sure 'cause you
look at like a lot of stuff.
750
00:42:24,714 --> 00:42:28,200
I mean, that's gonna be based
on a little bit of truth,
751
00:42:28,235 --> 00:42:30,582
but you also wanna try to sell a
story too
752
00:42:30,617 --> 00:42:32,308
so you gotta embellish a little
bit
753
00:42:32,342 --> 00:42:34,241
and make it sound it little
bit bigger than what it was.
754
00:42:34,275 --> 00:42:35,483
But I mean,
755
00:42:35,518 --> 00:42:38,728
there's gotta be some type
of kernel of truth to it too.
756
00:42:38,763 --> 00:42:41,731
Unless you're just like a
crazy imaginative person,
757
00:42:41,766 --> 00:42:45,114
I mean, to come up with a
story like that is just,
758
00:42:45,148 --> 00:42:47,772
like off the bat, is just crazy.
759
00:42:47,806 --> 00:42:48,635
[Nick laughing]
760
00:42:48,669 --> 00:42:49,601
There's gotta be something to
it.
761
00:42:49,636 --> 00:42:51,879
He had to have had some type of
experience
762
00:42:51,914 --> 00:42:53,985
and whatever experience it was,
763
00:42:54,019 --> 00:42:57,126
obviously it was pretty profound
to him.
764
00:42:57,160 --> 00:43:00,336
But yeah, whether or not
it's as crazy as what it was,
765
00:43:00,370 --> 00:43:01,958
I mean, there's still something.
766
00:43:03,132 --> 00:43:04,340
- [Researcher] Are we in danger
767
00:43:04,374 --> 00:43:06,722
when we go out there looking
for what we're looking for?
768
00:43:06,756 --> 00:43:09,069
- I think the danger is real.
769
00:43:09,103 --> 00:43:13,176
Like so many people have said,
they're a lot like people.
770
00:43:13,211 --> 00:43:15,213
There's good ones, there's bad
ones.
771
00:43:15,247 --> 00:43:17,284
There might be mating seasons.
772
00:43:17,318 --> 00:43:18,768
There might be food shortages.
773
00:43:18,803 --> 00:43:22,151
What? Any number of things
might factor into it.
774
00:43:22,185 --> 00:43:24,360
But is there legit danger?
775
00:43:24,394 --> 00:43:25,499
Yes, there is.
776
00:43:25,533 --> 00:43:30,297
I can't say that it's always
gonna be peace and love.
777
00:43:30,331 --> 00:43:34,335
- With people coming out with
these ideas
778
00:43:34,370 --> 00:43:35,992
that are against the mainstream,
779
00:43:36,027 --> 00:43:38,512
a lot of times you're hesitant
780
00:43:38,546 --> 00:43:40,790
to come out with your sightings
781
00:43:40,825 --> 00:43:43,690
and your ideas and your
experiences.
782
00:43:43,724 --> 00:43:44,691
And it really-
783
00:43:44,725 --> 00:43:46,900
How can you have accurate data
784
00:43:46,934 --> 00:43:49,454
if people are afraid to come
forward?
785
00:43:49,488 --> 00:43:52,768
And so, if you want accuracy
786
00:43:52,802 --> 00:43:57,842
you've gotta accept all of the
phenomenon.
787
00:43:57,876 --> 00:44:00,672
You can't just restrict
it to the ones that
788
00:44:00,707 --> 00:44:04,227
if you only accept
things that can be proven
789
00:44:04,262 --> 00:44:07,886
right here, right now,
you're gonna limit yourself,
790
00:44:07,921 --> 00:44:12,201
you're gonna limit the data
that you have for crunching.
791
00:44:14,548 --> 00:44:16,412
- [Researcher] Would you have
a relationship with Bigfoot
792
00:44:17,758 --> 00:44:18,759
coming around?
793
00:44:20,036 --> 00:44:22,487
- Well, I mean, the one guy
that we did an interview with
794
00:44:22,521 --> 00:44:24,800
and he came up for the weekend,
Greg Yost,
795
00:44:24,834 --> 00:44:29,839
I mean, he has a
relationship built with them.
796
00:44:30,219 --> 00:44:31,427
It was really kind of wild,
797
00:44:31,461 --> 00:44:33,567
'cause he says that they follow
him
798
00:44:33,601 --> 00:44:36,156
and that gets into the
whole interdimensional thing
799
00:44:36,190 --> 00:44:37,433
which that might be it.
800
00:44:37,467 --> 00:44:39,746
But when we were up on top of
the hill
801
00:44:39,780 --> 00:44:41,575
and we started getting this
noise,
802
00:44:41,609 --> 00:44:43,819
and he started talking to the
one
803
00:44:43,853 --> 00:44:47,546
and he was saying the name
of the Bigfoot that he knew.
804
00:44:47,581 --> 00:44:50,377
And as soon as he said that
name, I mean it was crazy.
805
00:44:50,411 --> 00:44:51,930
There was stuff getting tossed,
806
00:44:51,965 --> 00:44:55,002
there was stuff running just
right outside of our view.
807
00:44:55,037 --> 00:44:58,385
But it was just crazy how
as soon as he said, "Inky,"
808
00:44:58,419 --> 00:45:00,283
that was the name of the
Bigfoot.
809
00:45:00,318 --> 00:45:01,526
As soon as he said that,
810
00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:03,942
it was just like it just lit
up with activity around us.
811
00:45:03,977 --> 00:45:05,944
So that was pretty crazy.
812
00:45:05,979 --> 00:45:08,706
So yeah, I think you can have
a relationship with them.
813
00:45:10,431 --> 00:45:11,950
I think you gotta be pretty
open-minded
814
00:45:11,985 --> 00:45:14,297
and just kinda open heart
and just kinda go into it.
815
00:45:14,332 --> 00:45:17,542
But yeah, it could also get bad
I feel.
816
00:45:20,062 --> 00:45:22,305
- [Loren] I think it's a ongoing
mystery
817
00:45:22,340 --> 00:45:25,136
and I really do think that's an
unknown.
818
00:45:26,206 --> 00:45:29,347
It's one of those mysteries
in the Bigfoot field
819
00:45:29,381 --> 00:45:33,627
that will keep being discussed
because it's so compelling.
820
00:45:33,661 --> 00:45:36,872
And seems as if, what if it was
real?
821
00:45:36,906 --> 00:45:40,772
What if it was an interaction
between a professor
822
00:45:40,807 --> 00:45:44,189
and a Bigfoot in the
hills of Pennsylvania?
823
00:45:44,224 --> 00:45:49,229
That would be a pretty
remarkable event to document.
824
00:45:49,885 --> 00:45:54,234
And let's hopefully get
more and more on it.
825
00:45:54,268 --> 00:45:56,132
Maybe some relative,
826
00:45:56,167 --> 00:46:00,481
maybe some grandkid of the
professor
827
00:46:00,516 --> 00:46:03,691
will come forth someday and
we'll be able to know more.
828
00:46:05,279 --> 00:46:09,111
[relaxing instrumental music]
829
00:46:15,358 --> 00:46:18,258
- [Jan] It had been a few
days since I had seen Kong.
830
00:46:18,292 --> 00:46:21,502
I was worried due to the
hunting season being in effect.
831
00:46:21,537 --> 00:46:24,298
Every time I heard a gun
shot off in the distance,
832
00:46:24,333 --> 00:46:26,404
I was worried it was Kong.
833
00:46:26,438 --> 00:46:27,681
But another side of me hoped
that
834
00:46:27,715 --> 00:46:30,511
he was just resting deep in the
forest.
835
00:46:30,546 --> 00:46:33,066
My property was connected
to Chestnut Ridge
836
00:46:33,100 --> 00:46:35,482
by a wide band of forest.
837
00:46:35,516 --> 00:46:40,038
Chestnut Ridge was about 16
miles away as a crow flies.
838
00:46:40,073 --> 00:46:43,455
It is entirely forested from
the West Virginia border,
839
00:46:43,490 --> 00:46:46,424
almost to the northern
border of Pennsylvania.
840
00:46:46,458 --> 00:46:50,773
It contains Forbes State
Forest and Laurel Caverns.
841
00:46:50,808 --> 00:46:52,188
I'm hoping Kong lived in
842
00:46:52,223 --> 00:46:54,639
some section of the unexplored
caverns.
843
00:46:56,123 --> 00:46:57,849
No Kong this evening.
844
00:46:57,884 --> 00:47:00,679
Perhaps the hunters in the
area are keeping him away.
845
00:47:00,714 --> 00:47:02,164
I just hope that he is safe.
846
00:47:05,098 --> 00:47:08,687
[somber instrumental music]
847
00:47:08,722 --> 00:47:10,034
Hunting season had passed
848
00:47:10,068 --> 00:47:12,864
and I had high hopes
that Kong would return.
849
00:47:12,899 --> 00:47:14,555
I got a beer out of the fridge
850
00:47:14,590 --> 00:47:16,247
and walked out on the porch,
851
00:47:16,281 --> 00:47:18,594
and there he was squatting down.
852
00:47:18,628 --> 00:47:20,113
He seemed a bit off.
853
00:47:20,147 --> 00:47:22,978
No signs that he had
been shot by any hunters.
854
00:47:23,012 --> 00:47:25,843
I pulled some apples out
and tossed them his way
855
00:47:25,877 --> 00:47:27,879
but he had no interest in them.
856
00:47:27,914 --> 00:47:30,088
I could tell something
was wrong with Kong.
857
00:47:32,366 --> 00:47:36,854
[somber instrumental music
continues]
858
00:47:42,342 --> 00:47:44,102
Slowly I made my way toward him
859
00:47:44,137 --> 00:47:46,794
and he slowly extended his hand.
860
00:47:46,829 --> 00:47:49,797
I touched his extended
hand and held it awhile.
861
00:47:49,832 --> 00:47:51,799
He drew it closer to his body
862
00:47:51,834 --> 00:47:54,457
and held my hand close to his
chest.
863
00:47:54,492 --> 00:47:56,114
He closed his eyes.
864
00:47:56,149 --> 00:47:57,840
He was obviously ill.
865
00:47:57,875 --> 00:48:00,739
I sat with Kong for a few
hours before he got up
866
00:48:00,774 --> 00:48:02,569
and walked off into the forest.
867
00:48:04,847 --> 00:48:09,334
[somber instrumental music
continues]
868
00:48:43,472 --> 00:48:47,959
[somber instrumental music
continues]
869
00:49:05,528 --> 00:49:09,360
[relaxing instrumental music]
870
00:49:13,398 --> 00:49:16,505
- I do believe that there
would be some sort of burial
871
00:49:16,539 --> 00:49:20,612
because in the few times I've
heard the encounters of people
872
00:49:20,647 --> 00:49:22,442
that said they actually
shot one and dropped it,
873
00:49:22,476 --> 00:49:23,650
or whatever they say,
874
00:49:23,684 --> 00:49:26,929
another one swings in, grabs
it and skedaddles with it.
875
00:49:26,964 --> 00:49:31,002
So I think they do do
something with the bodies.
876
00:49:31,037 --> 00:49:32,866
But that being said,
877
00:49:32,900 --> 00:49:35,179
how many times you seen
a dead bear in the woods?
878
00:49:35,213 --> 00:49:38,976
How many times have you seen
a dead bobcat or a coyote?
879
00:49:39,010 --> 00:49:41,116
Nature's pretty efficient.
880
00:49:41,150 --> 00:49:42,841
Bones don't last long.
881
00:49:42,876 --> 00:49:44,705
Soft tissue doesn't last long.
882
00:49:44,740 --> 00:49:46,949
There's too many things out
there looking for a meal
883
00:49:46,984 --> 00:49:48,709
and especially around here.
884
00:49:48,744 --> 00:49:51,126
I mean, in a matter of a few
short days
885
00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:52,506
everything's gonna be gone.
886
00:49:53,714 --> 00:49:55,647
[relaxing instrumental music
continues]
887
00:49:55,682 --> 00:49:59,617
- I think as a rule if there
was a systematic problem,
888
00:49:59,651 --> 00:50:01,067
I think we would already know
889
00:50:01,101 --> 00:50:03,034
because I think these things are
around us
890
00:50:03,069 --> 00:50:07,314
almost a lot of the time
when we're in the woods.
891
00:50:07,349 --> 00:50:10,835
So if there was a problem,
if they were out to get us,
892
00:50:10,869 --> 00:50:13,769
I think we would already know as
a rule.
893
00:50:13,803 --> 00:50:18,532
- And I also like to encourage
people to come forward
894
00:50:18,567 --> 00:50:23,572
and share their experiences
without fear of ridicule.
895
00:50:24,745 --> 00:50:29,750
Because if we only listen
to the brave and the bold,
896
00:50:30,613 --> 00:50:33,582
we're not gonna get all of the
story.
897
00:50:33,616 --> 00:50:36,309
And if you are looking
for what exactly this is,
898
00:50:36,343 --> 00:50:39,036
you have to explore all that
phenomenon
899
00:50:39,070 --> 00:50:41,383
and you have to explore
the people that have
900
00:50:41,417 --> 00:50:44,075
what you might call crazy
experiences.
901
00:50:44,110 --> 00:50:48,252
And you have to include that.
902
00:50:48,286 --> 00:50:49,977
If you're just picking and
choosing,
903
00:50:50,012 --> 00:50:52,601
you're not doing any science.
904
00:50:52,635 --> 00:50:54,499
You're not even really
doing any crunching,
905
00:50:54,534 --> 00:50:57,951
you're just building a narrative
906
00:50:57,985 --> 00:50:59,953
is kinda how I look at it.
907
00:50:59,987 --> 00:51:01,023
- [Researcher] Let's talk about
gifting.
908
00:51:01,058 --> 00:51:02,852
Good idea or bad idea?
909
00:51:02,887 --> 00:51:05,545
- I mean, I wouldn't be
doing it in my backyard.
910
00:51:08,168 --> 00:51:09,549
If you're gonna gift it like my
sister,
911
00:51:09,583 --> 00:51:11,965
she was at this party
spot they used to hang out
912
00:51:11,999 --> 00:51:13,000
down by a crick or whatever.
913
00:51:13,035 --> 00:51:14,830
Well, the one night they had an
experience
914
00:51:14,864 --> 00:51:17,212
where something came into
where they were hanging out
915
00:51:17,246 --> 00:51:19,110
and they all quit going
there and hanging out.
916
00:51:19,145 --> 00:51:20,111
Well, she started going there
917
00:51:20,146 --> 00:51:21,768
just trying to figure out what
it was
918
00:51:21,802 --> 00:51:24,598
and she started leaving fruits
and vegetables out there.
919
00:51:24,633 --> 00:51:27,222
And then she started going there
920
00:51:27,256 --> 00:51:29,016
and there was little round rocks
and stuff
921
00:51:29,051 --> 00:51:30,673
that was getting left on the log
922
00:51:30,708 --> 00:51:32,917
in place of the fruits
that she was leaving.
923
00:51:33,814 --> 00:51:34,608
But yeah, I just told her, I was
like,
924
00:51:34,643 --> 00:51:35,885
"That's cool out there
925
00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:37,439
"but don't be doing that by
your house and everything
926
00:51:37,473 --> 00:51:40,235
"'cause once you quit then
927
00:51:40,269 --> 00:51:42,237
"I think you're pulling in some-
928
00:51:42,271 --> 00:51:43,100
"You're gonna make them mad.
929
00:51:43,134 --> 00:51:44,066
"You're gonna piss them off."
930
00:51:44,101 --> 00:51:45,792
Because they get use to this
relationship
931
00:51:45,826 --> 00:51:47,104
or whatever that you're
building with them,
932
00:51:47,138 --> 00:51:48,312
and then you just cut ties
933
00:51:48,346 --> 00:51:50,590
and stuff is just gonna get bad
I feel.
934
00:51:52,316 --> 00:51:56,009
[somber instrumental music]
935
00:52:11,507 --> 00:52:13,992
- [Loren] He didn't kill
it but he found it dead
936
00:52:14,027 --> 00:52:15,270
and then he buried it,
937
00:52:15,304 --> 00:52:17,927
and he felt that people could
claim that
938
00:52:17,962 --> 00:52:22,208
he had been involved in the
demise of this creature.
939
00:52:22,242 --> 00:52:25,970
So I don't know.
940
00:52:26,004 --> 00:52:28,593
It's one of those cases
where I'd have to say
941
00:52:28,628 --> 00:52:30,181
I don't know at the end of the
day.
942
00:52:30,216 --> 00:52:34,185
But I thought the possibility
was there
943
00:52:34,220 --> 00:52:36,498
enough for me to wanna pursue it
944
00:52:36,532 --> 00:52:40,605
and look at the various details
of it.
945
00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:45,645
And it was in an area that
there had been a lot of tales,
946
00:52:45,852 --> 00:52:47,267
folklore and sightings,
947
00:52:47,302 --> 00:52:50,719
so it seemed realistic in that
regard too.
948
00:52:57,312 --> 00:53:00,591
- Yeah, well, as I told
you I believe John Tomikel
949
00:53:00,625 --> 00:53:04,491
was the actual writer of "The
Creature."
950
00:53:06,562 --> 00:53:09,116
You know in looking at some of
the things.
951
00:53:09,151 --> 00:53:11,533
He was in the army in 1952.
952
00:53:11,567 --> 00:53:13,362
He was divorced shortly after
953
00:53:13,397 --> 00:53:15,226
the first publication of "The
Creature."
954
00:53:15,261 --> 00:53:19,161
I think it was around
1975, '76 he got divorced.
955
00:53:19,196 --> 00:53:20,369
And the funny this is,
956
00:53:20,404 --> 00:53:23,683
is the way I determined that
was from property records.
957
00:53:23,717 --> 00:53:25,236
As a private investigator,
958
00:53:25,271 --> 00:53:27,480
one of the things I do is,
959
00:53:27,514 --> 00:53:29,447
all right, I don't need
to talk to anybody.
960
00:53:29,482 --> 00:53:32,588
Let's see if there is evidence
961
00:53:32,623 --> 00:53:35,246
to back up the claim of the
book.
962
00:53:35,281 --> 00:53:38,007
And at looking at, okay,
963
00:53:38,042 --> 00:53:41,390
we know John Tomikel
was in the Korean War.
964
00:53:41,425 --> 00:53:44,048
We know John Tomikel was
an earth science teacher.
965
00:53:44,082 --> 00:53:48,190
We know John Tomikel got
divorced
966
00:53:49,226 --> 00:53:52,229
shortly after the first
publication of the book.
967
00:53:52,263 --> 00:53:53,954
And then we look at Jan Klement.
968
00:53:53,989 --> 00:53:57,958
Jan Klement was in the army in
'52.
969
00:53:59,339 --> 00:54:01,893
Jan Klement was an earth science
teacher.
970
00:54:01,928 --> 00:54:04,965
Jan Klement got divorced in the
70s.
971
00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:07,968
And even more to the fact was
972
00:54:08,003 --> 00:54:13,008
the copyright found at
the Library of Congress
973
00:54:13,284 --> 00:54:15,907
and the item number was
actually,
974
00:54:15,942 --> 00:54:18,945
it was A757910,
975
00:54:18,979 --> 00:54:19,980
"The Creature."
976
00:54:21,327 --> 00:54:24,985
[somber instrumental music]
977
00:54:40,069 --> 00:54:41,588
- [Jan] Several days passed.
978
00:54:41,623 --> 00:54:43,038
When I went out to look for
Kong,
979
00:54:43,072 --> 00:54:45,005
he was nowhere to be found.
980
00:54:45,040 --> 00:54:47,422
No evidences indicated his
presence
981
00:54:47,456 --> 00:54:50,252
at any time since our last
encounter.
982
00:54:50,287 --> 00:54:53,497
Each evening I built a
fire and had a cold beer.
983
00:54:53,531 --> 00:54:56,845
That night in particular
was colder than the others.
984
00:54:56,879 --> 00:54:58,605
I decided to head inside for the
night
985
00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:01,608
when I noticed something
laying off in the distance.
986
00:55:01,643 --> 00:55:03,507
I shined my light on the object.
987
00:55:03,541 --> 00:55:05,681
I was stunned to see Kong lying
there.
988
00:55:07,545 --> 00:55:09,892
Stood there in a frozen
state for several minutes
989
00:55:09,927 --> 00:55:12,447
before I tried to test his
state.
990
00:55:12,481 --> 00:55:15,898
He was dead and rigor mortis had
set in.
991
00:55:15,933 --> 00:55:16,761
What to do?
992
00:55:17,659 --> 00:55:18,625
My first thought was that
993
00:55:18,660 --> 00:55:21,387
I now had evidence of a species
to measure
994
00:55:21,421 --> 00:55:23,458
and to show to the public.
995
00:55:23,492 --> 00:55:25,494
The horror of the public
asking me questions
996
00:55:25,529 --> 00:55:29,774
and invading my private
life was too much for me.
997
00:55:29,809 --> 00:55:32,398
It wasn't fair to Kong either.
998
00:55:32,432 --> 00:55:34,434
My decision was to bury Kong
999
00:55:34,469 --> 00:55:35,953
with the idea that I could dig
him up
1000
00:55:35,987 --> 00:55:39,232
if I ever decided to do
so and needed to do so.
1001
00:55:40,302 --> 00:55:44,789
[somber instrumental music
continues]
1002
00:55:45,928 --> 00:55:48,966
It was almost impossible to
get his body into my vehicle
1003
00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:52,383
but I was able to manage with
a picnic table and a rope.
1004
00:55:52,418 --> 00:55:54,385
I grabbed some tools and a
shovel
1005
00:55:54,420 --> 00:55:58,182
and headed toward Winds
Gap in Chestnut Ridge.
1006
00:55:58,216 --> 00:55:59,425
It was a remote area.
1007
00:56:07,398 --> 00:56:08,468
I thought about the fact that
1008
00:56:08,503 --> 00:56:11,920
no dead creatures like
him have ever been found.
1009
00:56:11,954 --> 00:56:14,543
Perhaps I got to him before
the others of his kind
1010
00:56:14,578 --> 00:56:15,648
could gather him up.
1011
00:56:18,996 --> 00:56:22,206
I should have buried him on
my property where he fell,
1012
00:56:22,240 --> 00:56:23,241
but at that time
1013
00:56:23,276 --> 00:56:25,865
I was not thinking as
logically as I am now.
1014
00:56:27,970 --> 00:56:31,457
[somber orchestral music]
1015
00:56:36,116 --> 00:56:38,774
[door clicking]
1016
00:56:41,432 --> 00:56:44,401
[engine roaring]
1017
00:56:44,435 --> 00:56:48,750
[somber orchestral music
continues]
1018
00:56:55,239 --> 00:56:57,828
[rain falling]
1019
00:57:08,390 --> 00:57:10,806
[ax cutting]
1020
00:57:13,602 --> 00:57:16,225
[rain falling]
1021
00:57:30,688 --> 00:57:34,209
I drove over the ridge through
the gap and cut the motor,
1022
00:57:34,243 --> 00:57:36,314
drifting down the road
to where I could stop
1023
00:57:36,349 --> 00:57:37,281
and do the burial.
1024
00:57:38,558 --> 00:57:41,768
I tried to drag Kong into the
woods but he was too heavy.
1025
00:57:41,803 --> 00:57:43,874
There was only one thing I could
do.
1026
00:57:43,908 --> 00:57:44,944
I took out the ax
1027
00:57:44,978 --> 00:57:47,671
and started cutting him
into moveable pieces.
1028
00:57:47,705 --> 00:57:49,638
First, his head came off.
1029
00:57:49,673 --> 00:57:52,503
I moved to his arms and legs
next.
1030
00:57:52,538 --> 00:57:55,472
I was crying uncontrollably
the entire time.
1031
00:57:56,300 --> 00:57:59,510
With the rest of the energy
I had left I dug a grave.
1032
00:57:59,545 --> 00:58:02,513
The pieces of Kong lay
in disarray about me.
1033
00:58:02,548 --> 00:58:04,791
I stood there for a
moment to catch my breath
1034
00:58:04,826 --> 00:58:06,828
when I noticed a car wheel.
1035
00:58:06,862 --> 00:58:09,071
The West Virginia,
Pennsylvania border is strewn
1036
00:58:09,106 --> 00:58:11,453
with car parts from the mountain
people
1037
00:58:11,488 --> 00:58:13,835
that live in these isolated
areas.
1038
00:58:13,869 --> 00:58:15,146
I took the wheel with the idea
that
1039
00:58:15,181 --> 00:58:18,115
if I ever wanted to find
the grave site again,
1040
00:58:18,149 --> 00:58:20,497
all I had to do was
bury the wheel with Kong
1041
00:58:20,531 --> 00:58:22,809
and use my metal detector to
find it.
1042
00:58:22,844 --> 00:58:26,572
I covered him quickly and
thought about Kong, my friend.
1043
00:58:28,194 --> 00:58:29,575
[somber orchestral music
continues]
1044
00:58:29,609 --> 00:58:32,301
♪ Oh, oh, oh
1045
00:58:32,336 --> 00:58:37,306
♪ Oh, oh
1046
00:58:37,341 --> 00:58:41,932
♪ Oh, oh, oh
1047
00:58:41,966 --> 00:58:46,695
♪ Oh, oh, oh
1048
00:58:46,730 --> 00:58:49,664
♪ Oh
1049
00:58:49,698 --> 00:58:54,703
♪ Oh, oh
1050
00:58:56,394 --> 00:59:01,399
♪ Oh, oh, oh
1051
00:59:02,193 --> 00:59:04,299
♪ Oh, oh
1052
00:59:06,197 --> 00:59:07,820
- [Jan] Weeks had passed slowly
1053
00:59:07,854 --> 00:59:11,548
and I reflected upon my
association with Kong.
1054
00:59:11,582 --> 00:59:15,482
He was a creature of the
deep forest, a quiet soul.
1055
00:59:17,036 --> 00:59:18,485
There are days when I just sit
here
1056
00:59:18,520 --> 00:59:22,006
and hope that I see my
friend one more time.
1057
00:59:22,041 --> 00:59:24,250
I listen really hard to the
forest.
1058
00:59:24,284 --> 00:59:26,286
At times I trick myself to
thinking
1059
00:59:26,321 --> 00:59:29,496
Kong was coming through the
woods for one last apple.
1060
00:59:33,811 --> 00:59:36,469
Perhaps I just miss my friend.
1061
00:59:38,195 --> 00:59:42,544
[somber orchestral music
continues]
1062
00:59:51,449 --> 00:59:54,280
- I really hate to tell you this
story
1063
00:59:55,971 --> 00:59:56,903
but I'll do it.
1064
00:59:59,492 --> 01:00:02,012
Since I'm 91 years old,
1065
01:00:02,046 --> 01:00:05,567
I should set the record
straight.
1066
01:00:09,157 --> 01:00:13,333
It was about three years
after the book was published
1067
01:00:13,368 --> 01:00:15,025
and I had buried
1068
01:00:16,302 --> 01:00:19,546
the 500 copies,
1069
01:00:19,581 --> 01:00:20,409
and
1070
01:00:25,863 --> 01:00:30,005
I had written a couple of books
myself on
1071
01:00:31,938 --> 01:00:33,802
scientific subjects.
1072
01:00:34,907 --> 01:00:39,946
Someone might get the
impression since I write books,
1073
01:00:39,981 --> 01:00:42,466
novels, that I wrote
1074
01:00:44,502 --> 01:00:46,194
"The Creature."
1075
01:00:46,228 --> 01:00:51,061
I edited "The Creature,"
but I did not write it.
1076
01:00:51,095 --> 01:00:54,202
The story is the work of Jan
Klement.
1077
01:00:57,550 --> 01:01:02,555
There was a picnic at a
place called Mingo Creek
1078
01:01:02,935 --> 01:01:06,248
which is in Southwestern
Pennsylvania,
1079
01:01:07,767 --> 01:01:09,700
and I was
1080
01:01:11,978 --> 01:01:13,566
the kind of the feature there
1081
01:01:13,600 --> 01:01:17,915
because I had prepared all
these edible wild plants.
1082
01:01:17,950 --> 01:01:20,815
And there were other
people involved there.
1083
01:01:20,849 --> 01:01:24,819
And Jan Klement showed up.
1084
01:01:27,787 --> 01:01:29,306
When we were
1085
01:01:31,411 --> 01:01:32,792
kind of by ourselves,
1086
01:01:32,827 --> 01:01:37,417
I started berating him
about "The Creature"
1087
01:01:37,452 --> 01:01:38,453
and saying,
1088
01:01:40,110 --> 01:01:43,251
"You know it's unbelievable."
1089
01:01:43,285 --> 01:01:47,013
And he got quite mad at me.
1090
01:01:47,048 --> 01:01:47,980
And he said,
1091
01:01:50,189 --> 01:01:55,194
"Okay, I'll show you where he's
buried."
1092
01:01:55,435 --> 01:01:58,542
And right away, my eyes, I said,
1093
01:01:58,576 --> 01:02:01,821
"This was gonna be it."
1094
01:02:01,856 --> 01:02:04,479
So we decided to take his truck
1095
01:02:05,445 --> 01:02:08,586
and I put my shovel in the back
of it,
1096
01:02:08,621 --> 01:02:11,417
and he was gonna let me dig it
up.
1097
01:02:14,972 --> 01:02:16,008
We got out
1098
01:02:19,011 --> 01:02:21,772
and we started walking through
underbrush.
1099
01:02:21,807 --> 01:02:24,602
It was multi-floral rows
1100
01:02:24,637 --> 01:02:28,192
and it was very difficult to get
through.
1101
01:02:28,227 --> 01:02:32,610
And this was three years after
the fact.
1102
01:02:34,129 --> 01:02:38,168
So he said, "Why don't
you go down the right
1103
01:02:38,202 --> 01:02:40,342
"and I'll go to the left
1104
01:02:40,377 --> 01:02:45,209
"and you look for a mound of
dirt."
1105
01:02:46,521 --> 01:02:49,524
He said, "It shouldn't be hard
to find."
1106
01:02:49,558 --> 01:02:54,563
So I'm scrabbling around
and he's on the other side,
1107
01:02:55,426 --> 01:02:59,914
and all of a sudden he
hollers, "Son of a bitch!"
1108
01:03:00,949 --> 01:03:04,815
And I raced over
1109
01:03:04,850 --> 01:03:07,093
through all kinds of underbrush
1110
01:03:08,163 --> 01:03:11,753
and there he was standing beside
1111
01:03:12,823 --> 01:03:16,793
a hole in the ground that was
about the size of a bath tub.
1112
01:03:19,071 --> 01:03:20,727
And I looked at it
1113
01:03:20,762 --> 01:03:25,767
and it was full of
golden rod and thistles,
1114
01:03:27,251 --> 01:03:30,082
but it was a good depression.
1115
01:03:30,116 --> 01:03:34,224
And then there was a mound of
dirt on the other side of it.
1116
01:03:35,846 --> 01:03:36,674
And
1117
01:03:38,228 --> 01:03:41,818
I remember he said that he had
buried
1118
01:03:42,991 --> 01:03:46,167
a car wheel or truck wheel with
it.
1119
01:03:46,201 --> 01:03:48,548
So I scraped around and, sure
enough,
1120
01:03:48,583 --> 01:03:52,207
there was a truck wheel there.
1121
01:03:53,312 --> 01:03:54,140
And
1122
01:03:56,073 --> 01:04:01,078
that was it and we rode back in
silence.
1123
01:04:01,596 --> 01:04:05,807
And he was really upset.
1124
01:04:05,842 --> 01:04:09,086
And we got back to our vehicles.
1125
01:04:09,121 --> 01:04:12,434
He went his way and I went mine
1126
01:04:13,677 --> 01:04:14,816
and that was that.
1127
01:04:17,267 --> 01:04:21,616
[choir singing in foreign
language]
1128
01:04:26,966 --> 01:04:31,315
[choir singing in foreign
language]
1129
01:04:39,530 --> 01:04:43,880
[choir singing in foreign
language]
1130
01:04:52,681 --> 01:04:55,132
[choir singing in foreign
language]
1131
01:04:55,167 --> 01:04:56,168
- [Jan] To this day,
1132
01:04:56,202 --> 01:04:58,756
I will not discuss Kong
with anyone personally.
1133
01:04:58,791 --> 01:05:02,070
And even if you, the viewer,
should discover who I am,
1134
01:05:02,105 --> 01:05:05,073
I will refuse to discuss
these events with you.
1135
01:05:05,108 --> 01:05:07,075
Just assume that this is fiction
1136
01:05:07,110 --> 01:05:09,560
and not worth legitimate time.
1137
01:05:11,769 --> 01:05:16,084
[choir singing in foreign
language]
1138
01:05:24,990 --> 01:05:27,164
[choir singing in foreign
language]
1139
01:05:27,199 --> 01:05:29,097
- [Narrator] Since the first
edition of "The Creature"
1140
01:05:29,132 --> 01:05:31,928
was published, there have
been many phone calls
1141
01:05:31,962 --> 01:05:34,447
concerning the identity of the
author.
1142
01:05:34,482 --> 01:05:37,795
The publisher has pledged to
keep the author anonymous.
1143
01:05:37,830 --> 01:05:40,660
The only other information
that has been provided is that
1144
01:05:40,695 --> 01:05:43,974
the cabin and its property
was sold years ago.
1145
01:05:47,081 --> 01:05:51,844
In 1986, the cabin was burned
to the ground by arsonists.
1146
01:05:51,878 --> 01:05:54,019
The ruins of the cabin are still
there,
1147
01:05:54,053 --> 01:05:56,124
as well as remnants of the pond.
1148
01:05:56,159 --> 01:05:59,438
The property is overgrown
with weeds and brush.
1149
01:05:59,472 --> 01:06:02,959
Several very expensive houses
have been built in the area
1150
01:06:02,993 --> 01:06:06,963
and the present owner has
refused to sell to developers.
1151
01:06:08,895 --> 01:06:12,727
There continues to be sightings
of creatures in the area
1152
01:06:12,761 --> 01:06:13,831
to this day.
1153
01:06:17,145 --> 01:06:21,494
[choir singing in foreign
language]
1154
01:06:22,599 --> 01:06:26,948
[choir singing in foreign
language]
1155
01:06:29,847 --> 01:06:34,162
[choir singing in foreign
language]
1156
01:06:42,757 --> 01:06:47,072
[choir singing in foreign
language]
1157
01:06:48,728 --> 01:06:53,043
[choir singing in foreign
language]
1158
01:06:55,494 --> 01:06:59,843
[choir singing in foreign
language]
1159
01:07:01,879 --> 01:07:06,194
[choir singing in foreign
language]
1160
01:07:14,064 --> 01:07:18,241
- [Narrator] In 1976, a
book titled "The Creature"
1161
01:07:18,275 --> 01:07:21,071
by Jan Klement was published.
1162
01:07:21,106 --> 01:07:22,762
A story about a man
1163
01:07:22,797 --> 01:07:25,696
and his interactions
with a Bigfoot creature.
1164
01:07:26,732 --> 01:07:29,976
For many years the book was a
mystery.
1165
01:07:30,011 --> 01:07:32,393
Could the book just be an
elaborate hoax?
1166
01:07:33,601 --> 01:07:36,259
Or could the remains of a
Bigfoot
1167
01:07:36,293 --> 01:07:40,125
be buried in the
foothills of Pennsylvania?
1168
01:07:40,159 --> 01:07:43,266
[choir singing in foreign
language]
1169
01:07:43,300 --> 01:07:46,372
[film reel clicking]
1170
01:07:50,756 --> 01:07:53,862
[film reel clicking]
1171
01:07:56,831 --> 01:07:59,903
[film reel clicking]
1172
01:08:06,323 --> 01:08:09,671
[relaxing guitar music]
1173
01:08:14,676 --> 01:08:19,681
♪ Do not stand at my grave and
weep ♪
1174
01:08:23,064 --> 01:08:28,068
♪ I am not there, I do not sleep
♪
1175
01:08:32,073 --> 01:08:37,077
♪ I am a thousand winds that
blow ♪
1176
01:08:40,357 --> 01:08:45,362
♪ I am the diamond glimpse on
the snow ♪
1177
01:08:49,539 --> 01:08:54,544
♪ I am the sunlight or ripened
grain ♪
1178
01:08:57,649 --> 01:09:02,655
♪ I am the gentle autumn rain
1179
01:09:06,934 --> 01:09:11,940
♪ When you waken in the morning
hush ♪
1180
01:09:14,908 --> 01:09:19,914
♪ I am the swift uplifting rush
♪
1181
01:09:23,607 --> 01:09:28,612
♪ Of quiet birds in circle of
flight ♪
1182
01:09:33,169 --> 01:09:38,174
♪ I am the soft stars
that shine at night ♪
1183
01:09:42,246 --> 01:09:47,217
♪ Do not stand at my grave and
cry ♪
1184
01:09:50,255 --> 01:09:54,259
♪ I am not there, I did not die
♪
1185
01:09:55,708 --> 01:09:59,367
[somber instrumental music]
1186
01:10:58,737 --> 01:11:03,259
[somber instrumental music
continues]
1187
01:11:33,875 --> 01:11:37,707
[haunting instrumental music]
1188
01:12:00,799 --> 01:12:05,459
[haunting instrumental music
continues]
1189
01:12:53,576 --> 01:12:57,269
[relaxing orchestral music]
1190
01:13:29,508 --> 01:13:34,030
[relaxing orchestral music
continues]
1191
01:13:38,724 --> 01:13:43,764
♪ Oh, oh, oh
1192
01:13:43,798 --> 01:13:47,353
♪ Oh, oh, oh
1193
01:13:47,388 --> 01:13:52,393
♪ Oh, oh, oh
1194
01:13:53,187 --> 01:13:57,950
♪ Oh, oh, oh
1195
01:13:57,985 --> 01:14:02,610
♪ Oh, oh, oh
1196
01:14:02,645 --> 01:14:05,337
♪ Oh
1197
01:14:05,371 --> 01:14:07,339
♪ Oh
1198
01:14:07,373 --> 01:14:12,378
♪ Oh, oh
1199
01:14:12,413 --> 01:14:15,830
♪ Oh, oh
1200
01:14:15,865 --> 01:14:20,870
♪ Oh, oh, oh
1201
01:14:22,009 --> 01:14:25,530
♪ Oh, oh
1202
01:14:25,564 --> 01:14:27,980
♪ Oh, oh, oh
1203
01:14:31,777 --> 01:14:36,299
[relaxing orchestral music
continues]
1204
01:15:00,219 --> 01:15:05,224
[thunder crashing]
[rain falling]
1205
01:15:05,846 --> 01:15:08,745
[thunder crashing]
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