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Hello. I'm a man who's attracted to men.
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I'm preparing to legally change my gender
from female to male.
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I'm lesbian now.
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I'm homosexual.
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I'm bisexual.
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I'm lesbian.
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I'm an FTM transgender.
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I'm gay.
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(Queer)
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(1. Strange, odd, 2. Homosexual)
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(Queer people...)
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(whom we see as different are among us.)
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(To some, it's a story of differences.)
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Ever since I could remember, I think...
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I always liked men.
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I was in elementary school
when I sensed that I liked girls.
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At first, the word, "gay,"
made me uncomfortable.
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I can tell people that
my significant other is transgender.
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I don't identify myself as a woman.
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I have dated men.
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But the feelings I had for them
didn't deepen to the point of love.
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(The world sees our lives as different.)
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(The world sees our lives as different.)
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(I thought it was irrelevant to me,
but it became relevant.)
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(I thought you would be
at least a bit understanding at first.)
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(This is a different matter
of having a bit of understanding.)
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(How am I going to live with this?)
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(I don't know where it went wrong.)
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(No parents will understand
their children on their first try.)
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Tears are just falling
at the thought of trying...
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to persuade your parents?
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(We can't have kids.)
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(I think you might change
your mind later.)
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(And another word to describe
a different me, "queer")
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(And another word to describe
a different me, "queer")
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(Restricted Area)
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(But on a closer look,)
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(our stories share more similarities
than differences.)
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(The ordinary stories
of extraordinary us will begin.)
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(The ordinary stories
of extraordinary us will begin.)
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(Hong Seok Cheon, Shin Dong Yeob, Hani)
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- Gosh. We only watched the prologue.
- Goodness.
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- You guys did an amazing job.
- Is this how it's going to be? Really?
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I thought this would be a fun show.
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The prologue was so moving.
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When I first got the offer
to be on this show,
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- I was quite surprised.
- Right.
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At last.
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I realized...
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- our society has changed a lot...
- Yes.
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and that people started to accept
these differences little by little.
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That crossed my mind.
How was it for you when you got the offer?
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I was very surprised as well.
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I thought that the world was finally ready
to see this kind of courage.
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I was excited and looking forward to this.
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Do you have any friends
who would be relevant to this show?
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No. I don't know anyone who would be.
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You probably haven't figured them out.
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(Laughing)
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- I'm sure there were a few.
- For sure.
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- For sure.
- I'm sure there were.
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- For sure.
- I see.
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- I'm sure there were some friends...
- Yes.
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- who liked her when they were in school.
- Yes.
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When your agency found out
that Seok Cheon and I would be...
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on the show with you,
didn't they try to stop you?
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- This could be a bit risky.
- Why?
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- Aren't you the least risky pair?
- Really?
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I see. In that sense,
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- we are quite safe.
- Of course.
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But the nature
and intensity of the program...
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could be serious.
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But I do feel
that our society has changed a lot...
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because people at my agency are
interested in the show.
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And they are looking forward to this.
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A long time ago,
after I came out, I hit a rough patch.
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Dong Yeob had been there for me
in so many ways.
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This is what I told him.
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"There might be a TV show later on,
talking about..."
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- "what I'm going through."
- That's right. You said that.
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- I did. Right?
- Yes.
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- Gosh. That's right. You did say that.
- Yes.
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- We thought it wouldn't be possible.
- Right.
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We weren't sure
if people would be willing...
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to share their innermost stories on TV.
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- Right.
- But people are proud to show that on TV.
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It's not like...
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- We're not keeping it hush-hush. Right.
- we're recommending this,
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- supporting these relationships blindly,
- We're not here to embellish it.
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- That's not it.
- or encouraging people.
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- We're just here to watch.
- Right.
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It's a chance for us...
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to observe different people
and different lives.
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And it's also a chance for us
to focus on their sincerity...
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in my opinion.
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(Coming out: All the mornings with you)
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Gosh. They are so lovey-dovey.
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Wake up.
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(Wake up. It's morning!)
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(Don't bother me.)
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Wake up already.
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I see. They weren't his fingers.
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(The fingers don't give up.)
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(Biting)
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Why did you bite me?
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(I'm going to get even with you!)
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(That's not nice.)
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Why are you so lazy?
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My mom said lazy guys are the worst.
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I have never been lazy.
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Yes, you have.
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I'll help you get up.
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Don't you think
those pajamas are so sweet?
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- Yes.
- They are matching pajamas.
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(They look so cute.)
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(I don't want to get up.)
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Stop it.
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(Playful)
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Don't touch me.
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(They seem so lovey-dovey like newlyweds.
Who are they?)
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We are in a relationship.
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It's been about 590 days
since we started dating. Right?
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It's been about 590 days.
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First of all, Min Jun is...
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very smart and has fair skin.
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And he was popular too.
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But now, he's all mine.
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(They are in a sweet phase.)
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When he works, he's really cool and sexy.
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Bo Sung is kind. He's a good driver.
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I find him the most lovable...
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when he's cleaning a big mess
in the house.
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What?
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What do you call that? Snake Bride?
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- Snail Bride.
- Snail Bride.
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What's Snake Bride?
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There was a time
when I touched him jokingly.
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(When were you certain
that he could be your partner?)
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Well, I wasn't sure
if I could just call our relationship...
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a mere friendship,
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so I gave him a peck on the lips.
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When I did, I felt a spark between us.
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(Feeling shy)
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That's when I felt this was it.
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(Laughing)
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What if only you got the spark?
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I think so too.
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- Do you want coffee?
- Yes.
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I'm worried.
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What am I going to cook for my friends
at our housewarming party?
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Buy some meal kits.
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(Dumbfounded)
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Then it will look like
I'm not making any effort.
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(Is that so?)
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We have some meat.
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I have to put them out
at room temperature.
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Let's cook that when they come over.
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(Pork neck and beef ribs)
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- And we'll eat the good cut?
- Yes.
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- I guess they're having friends over.
- Really?
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- It's a housewarming party.
- Yes.
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(They are cleaning
every inch of the house too.)
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Min Jun is cooking.
And Bo Sung is cleaning.
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- We should put in a new trash bag.
- Yes.
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(He's good at recycling too.)
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Bo Sung, is there anything
you want to eat later?
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- Yes.
- What?
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You.
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(Look at these kids.)
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(They are going to be this blunt?)
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That's so sweet.
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(Goodness.)
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(Studying his face)
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(He approaches Min Jun
and pokes him on the bottom.)
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(They are playful.)
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Goodness. They are so lovey-dovey.
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(Min Jun prepares breakfast.)
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(What's Bo Sung doing?)
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Come here.
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What?
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Bring your lips.
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(He figures it out.)
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Pout your lips.
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(Pecking)
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I didn't get any on my lips.
Maybe, you didn't put enough on your lips.
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There's no color on your lips.
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(This time, he dabs it on Min Jun's lips.)
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(He wraps it up with a kiss.)
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Dong Yeob, it's been a while
since you did that, right?
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No. Why do you say that?
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I do things I can't share on TV.
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(He's controlling himself as he's on TV.)
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That looks tasty.
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- Thanks for cooking, baby.
- Sure.
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- They are having meat for breakfast.
- Meat for breakfast?
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(This is tasty.)
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What do I have to buy
at the supermarket later?
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I should call my friends
and ask what they want to have.
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Then call them now
and ask what they want to eat.
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Hello?
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(Hello?)
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Hello.
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- Jae Hee.
- Yes?
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What do you want to eat later?
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What do you want me to cook for you?
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- Gujeolpan.
- Gujeolpan?
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- That's the hardest Korean dish to make.
- Or the royal hot pot.
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(Boiling with annoyance)
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(He ends the call mercilessly.)
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(Laughing)
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What should I cook?
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(Getting annoyed)
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Then call another friend.
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Right. I should call Ji Soo.
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- Hello.
- Yes.
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Is there anything you want to eat later?
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(Ji Soo was a man?)
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- What can you cook?
- He must have other gay friends.
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- What can I cook?
- Yes.
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I can cook anything.
Tell me what you want to eat.
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I just want Korean food.
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What kind of Korean food?
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Stew? Like kimchi stew or some soup?
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(I see.)
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What's wrong with your voice?
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I just woke up.
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I'm tired.
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(Acting cute)
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(Clenching)
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Why are you suddenly trying to sound cute?
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I'm not trying to sound cute.
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Are you trying to hit on me?
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(I can't believe them!)
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(Is he teasing his friend?)
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(Or is he serious?)
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You should start dating men now.
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I'm curious too.
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No.
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(Boiling with anger)
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- Okay. See you later.
- Bo Sung seems really bothered.
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- He's just a friend.
- Okay.
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- They can make jokes and all.
- Right.
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(A suspicious gaze)
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- What's the deal with you guys?
- What?
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- What's the deal with you guys?
- He's my friend from high school.
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- Really?
- Yes.
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- They are high school friends.
- I have a question.
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When you call other guys,
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do you say
that they are trying to hit on you?
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Because they do hit on me.
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You're sick.
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I want to be nice to you,
but you make it impossible for me.
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- I do? Why?
- Yes.
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I want to pet you like this,
but I want to smack you too.
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- Why?
- Because you're annoying.
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- They are walking on thin ice now.
- Yes.
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Of course, he would be jealous.
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- Should we get ready now?
- Yes.
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They use brushes.
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They wake up together in the morning...
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and talk to each other in a loving manner.
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And I bet the viewers
have never seen this before.
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- Probably.
- Even I don't do that on TV.
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- Right.
- So...
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a lot of them might be flustered...
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- and find it unfamiliar.
- Yes.
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I think that's possible.
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Even I felt this was new.
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"How should I accept this?"
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It's definitely new,
and we haven't seen this before.
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But I think I'll get used to seeing this.
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I understand that...
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watching 2 men in their early
and mid-20s together on TV...
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might be awkward.
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(Right.)
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- But that's the point.
- Right.
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To them, this is completely natural.
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(They visit the supermarket
to prepare for the housewarming party.)
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What do we need for vegetables?
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We need to buy...
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There it is.
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(Spotting their ingredient)
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- Hold on.
- And a bag of Cheongyang chili peppers.
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- They did makeup to go grocery shopping?
- What else?
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And we probably have to buy tofu.
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Right here.
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- Can I try some?
- Of course.
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Thank you.
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(Trying the food)
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(Humming in approval)
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- Hey, what are you doing?
- This is so good.
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Are you guys idol stars?
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No.
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- I'll take this.
- Okay.
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- Thank you.
- Enjoy.
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It's okay.
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- Can I have one more?
- Of course.
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- Thank you.
- Stop eating.
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(I love sampling food.)
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Thank you.
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By the way, we look like newlyweds
grocery shopping.
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(Stop it.)
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Come here.
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(Stop it.)
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- What?
- People are watching.
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(Stop it.)
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No. An old lady might collapse
if she sees us.
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- No.
- She will.
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Not in Korea yet.
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(They are cute.)
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"Not in Korea yet." Right.
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They are lovey-dovey.
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Oh, no. We're so behind schedule.
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- Start cooking. I'll set up the table.
- Okay.
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Even if my friends say it's not good,
you have to say it's good.
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Sure.
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(Ringing)
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- They are already here.
- His friends are here.
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Who is that?
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No way. It's Jae Hee.
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- Really?
- Yes.
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(He's happy to see his friend.)
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Hello.
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(Hello.)
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- Jae Hee is here.
- Jae Hee? Jae Hee!
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- Hey.
- It's been a while.
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- What are you doing?
- I'm cooking.
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What are you doing?
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- I'm washing the dishes.
- She's friends with both of them.
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What delicious food
are you going to cook for us?
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- Kimchi stew.
- Kimchi stew?
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(Min Jun's anticipated dish, kimchi stew)
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- Let me try that.
- Okay.
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- Hey, see what else I should add.
- This.
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Let's see.
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(Let's see.)
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(This is edible, right?)
15:46.220 --> 15:47.479
(Slurping)
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(How is it?)
15:49.290 --> 15:51.290
(Tasting)
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Hey, this will be good
once you add some sugar.
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- Sugar?
- Yes.
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- You need a sweet flavor in kimchi stew.
- Just sugar?
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- Yes, just sugar.
- Right.
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How much?
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(Pouring)
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- This much?
- No.
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But the sugar just poured out.
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Hold on.
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Hey, this will be too sweet.
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No. It's okay.
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(I can salvage this.)
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- I'm glad she came first.
- Yes.
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If your friend came first,
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I might have been awkward
because I don't know him.
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- You?
- Yes.
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(It looks somewhat tasty.)
16:20.779 --> 16:22.790
- That...
- It looks tasty at least.
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- It does. But the sugar water is boiling.
- Who is it?
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(He's here!)
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- It's Ji Soo.
- Open it. He's my friend.
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It's that friend.
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He made Bo Sung nervous.
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- Why am I opening the door?
- Open the door.
16:36.330 --> 16:38.070
(First impressions are important.)
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- Hello.
- Hello.
16:40.440 --> 16:42.310
- Who are you?
- I'm Min Jun's friend.
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Min Jun's friend.
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(The friend in question
shows up bearing gifts.)
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Ji Soo.
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I didn't buy anything.
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- Hello.
- Hello.
16:52.149 --> 16:53.279
(Awkward)
16:53.279 --> 16:54.320
(It's so awkward.)
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It's awkward.
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- Go and sit over there.
- It's been so long.
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(Long time no see.)
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- Which one?
- Why do you look like a robot?
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- You can sit there.
- Okay.
17:04.729 --> 17:06.330
- Can I start?
- Yes.
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- Thank you for the food.
- Thank you for the food.
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I cooked the stew. Try it.
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You tried it?
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He's good at cooking.
17:14.400 --> 17:16.470
(A lot of sugar
went into the kimchi stew.)
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This is good.
17:17.640 --> 17:19.009
(She didn't mean it.)
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- He added too much sugar earlier.
- He added too much sugar.
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(It's better than he thought.)
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It's pretty good.
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- He complimented on the food.
- Maybe, it's my preference.
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You said you wanted to have this,
so I cooked it. How is it?
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It's just okay.
17:32.019 --> 17:33.120
(Just okay?)
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- Just okay?
- Yes. It's a compliment coming from me.
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Can you introduce us?
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Right. Let me introduce you.
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This is Ji Soo.
He sat next to me in high school.
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And this is Jae Hee.
She's a close friend of mine.
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And this is Bo Sung, my boyfriend.
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I saw your photos online
when you were a Facebook star.
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- A Facebook star?
- How was he in high school?
17:57.650 --> 17:59.120
- When he was in high school?
- Yes.
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He was chatty and kind.
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He got along with other friends well.
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He was so close to girls.
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Is that when you came out?
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- When did I come out?
- You...
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When we got pretty close,
you called me at night and said,
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"You know I like men, right?"
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I was a little taken aback,
but I had a hunch earlier.
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- There's a feeling you get.
- That's true. You get a feeling.
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If I'm sleeping, he'd poke me in the side.
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I'd think, "That's weird.
Why is he doing that?"
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After he came out,
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I said it didn't matter
since he didn't like me in that way.
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We're friends,
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- so as long as he doesn't like me...
- As long as he doesn't like me.
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There wasn't anything like that.
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I'm really grateful to Ji Soo...
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because when I came out,
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I think a lot of guys could think,
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"Maybe he likes me."
18:49.370 --> 18:52.799
But he wasn't like that at all,
so I'm grateful when I think about it.
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Every shoe has its pair.
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Of the people you know,
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did anyone react negatively...
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when you came out?
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- React negatively?
- Yes.
19:05.620 --> 19:07.920
- It couldn't have been all good.
- That's true.
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When I came out,
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my friends were split 5 to 5,
or more like 7 to 3.
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- Good reactions for the seven?
- Yes, good ones.
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(Positive reactions were 7.)
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They acknowledged it.
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Things have changed so much.
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We couldn't even dream of this
back in my day.
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Even when Seok Cheon came out,
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most people were already aware.
19:29.870 --> 19:32.079
We had our suspicions confirmed.
19:32.079 --> 19:35.110
We always knew he was different.
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That's because I kept dropping hints.
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"Please catch on before I have to say it."
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It was scary for me to bring it up first,
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and I was worried I would be attacked
or left by people if I told them.
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But I dropped hints here and there,
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and the more tactful friends I had...
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sensed that I was different.
19:53.799 --> 19:57.600
Some of them asked me what was going on,
and that's when I told them.
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- It was easier to say something then.
- Yes, at that time.
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At the time, Song Seung Heon,
Seok Cheon, and I...
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were filming together often.
20:06.640 --> 20:09.509
It wasn't easy to bring that topic up.
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He might not turn out to be gay after all.
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It might just be his style.
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If he said he wasn't gay,
it would've been very rude of us.
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Another important thing is,
20:22.630 --> 20:24.799
what if we asked him, he said he was,
20:24.799 --> 20:26.430
and he suddenly came on to me?
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That's why.
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Why are you worried about that?
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I told you so many times
you aren't my type.
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I only had eyes for Seung Heon then.
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When I came out and told everyone,
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they all said they already knew.
20:41.239 --> 20:44.049
You must've dropped a lot of hints.
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You can tell by watching him,
from his behavior.
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How was it for you, Bo Sung?
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When did you come out?
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For me,
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I knew it in middle school.
20:55.430 --> 21:00.299
"Do I like women or men?"
was what I was wondering then.
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- There was a debate.
- Everyone goes through that stage.
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Then, I knew for sure when I was 20.
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When I was in high school,
I was trying more to fit in.
21:12.410 --> 21:13.710
- In high school?
- Yes.
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Because I didn't have any friends like me.
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I just dated women then.
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And I'd break up with them after a year.
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That's when I knew.
21:25.059 --> 21:26.120
(He discovered his identity
at 20 years old.)
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That's when I knew, at 20.
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So how did everyone react
when they found out?
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When they found out,
21:33.630 --> 21:35.930
some friends naturally distanced
themselves from me.
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- Really?
- Yes.
21:37.229 --> 21:39.539
How? By avoiding your calls?
21:39.739 --> 21:40.799
At first, yes.
21:40.870 --> 21:43.069
They were shocked that I was dating a man.
21:44.610 --> 21:45.839
That's true.
In the beginning, it's like that.
21:46.680 --> 21:48.850
There are always friends who say
it's dirty or it doesn't make sense.
21:48.850 --> 21:50.279
That must be so hurtful.
21:50.979 --> 21:54.350
Didn't anyone say anything rude
if you told people...
21:54.350 --> 21:57.089
that you were friends with me?
21:57.120 --> 21:58.660
That did happen to me.
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As you know, they'd ask who goes where.
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Saying it's dirty?
22:04.130 --> 22:05.360
A lot of people said it was dirty.
22:05.360 --> 22:06.799
That's when I always said,
22:07.130 --> 22:09.600
"Even if that were true,
they make better money than you,"
22:09.670 --> 22:10.970
"they live better than you,"
22:10.970 --> 22:12.769
"and they're much better looking
than you are."
22:12.970 --> 22:16.440
(How refreshing.)
22:16.509 --> 22:18.210
- That happened.
- Thank you.
22:18.579 --> 22:20.710
You guys turned out so great.
22:21.140 --> 22:24.009
- It's good to see.
- Yes, totally.
22:24.009 --> 22:27.180
Bo Sung and I have lived together...
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For how long now?
22:29.089 --> 22:31.860
- It's been over a year.
- That's right.
22:32.860 --> 22:36.259
We're thinking
about registering our marriage.
22:36.660 --> 22:39.499
- That's a different problem altogether.
- Getting married?
22:40.499 --> 22:41.769
Now they're feeling complicated things.
22:41.769 --> 22:42.829
(Flustered)
22:44.499 --> 22:47.039
Her fingers don't know where to go.
22:47.640 --> 22:48.809
This caught me off guard.
22:50.710 --> 22:54.579
Did you tell your parents about this?
22:54.579 --> 22:56.549
- The family has to be involved.
- At first, my mom just laughed,
22:56.549 --> 22:58.819
like it was something absurd.
22:58.850 --> 23:03.650
- She laughed?
- Laughing or crying, I don't know.
23:04.190 --> 23:05.920
But what my mother said was,
23:06.620 --> 23:08.860
"I hope you don't have a hard time."
23:10.289 --> 23:13.100
There are a lot of people who would leave
terrible comments about that.
23:13.100 --> 23:16.100
Yes, she was saying that
because she cared about you.
23:16.100 --> 23:17.569
She must've meant...
23:17.630 --> 23:20.140
that you shouldn't pay attention to them
and live your life proudly.
23:20.140 --> 23:21.200
- That's right.
- Yes.
23:21.200 --> 23:22.339
- What about you, Min Jun?
- And Min Jun?
23:23.069 --> 23:25.579
When I was about 20,
23:25.579 --> 23:27.680
I told my mother,
23:27.839 --> 23:29.710
"I'm going to marry a man."
23:31.309 --> 23:32.819
What did she say
when you first told her that?
23:32.819 --> 23:34.450
It must've been when you came out.
23:34.519 --> 23:36.319
When I first came out to her
in high school?
23:36.319 --> 23:38.289
- Yes, what did your mother say?
- She was bedridden for three days.
23:38.289 --> 23:39.989
That's a natural reaction.
23:42.630 --> 23:45.059
That's a normal reaction from a parent.
23:45.200 --> 23:46.229
What about after that?
23:46.430 --> 23:51.100
My mother got up on the third day
and said,
23:51.200 --> 23:56.069
"If you live as an LGBTQ person,
isn't that really hard?"
23:56.739 --> 23:57.910
That's what she said.
23:58.009 --> 24:00.239
But I think she knew.
24:00.479 --> 24:02.309
There's a woman among my mom's friends...
24:02.309 --> 24:04.850
who's especially close with her.
24:04.850 --> 24:06.819
I talked about that friend
and asked my mother,
24:06.819 --> 24:11.489
"If someone told you to marry that friend,
could you do it?"
24:12.620 --> 24:13.819
- Straightforwardly.
- Yes.
24:13.819 --> 24:16.630
"If they say women have to marry women,
could you do it?"
24:16.630 --> 24:18.029
That's what I asked my mother.
24:18.029 --> 24:20.160
- My mother said she couldn't.
- She said she couldn't.
24:20.160 --> 24:22.200
So I told my mother,
24:22.200 --> 24:23.400
that's the same for me.
24:23.729 --> 24:28.339
"When I think of women,
I think of them the same way you do."
24:28.339 --> 24:29.839
You won her over.
24:30.239 --> 24:33.839
I think she started to think...
24:33.839 --> 24:35.450
that she needed to accept this about me.
24:35.450 --> 24:36.979
(She was able to understand
Min Jun's feelings.)
24:36.979 --> 24:38.279
It is the same.
24:39.950 --> 24:42.690
Social status and other factors...
24:42.690 --> 24:46.319
lead people to hide the fact
that they're gay.
24:46.319 --> 24:49.630
But to naturally date women,
24:49.630 --> 24:53.259
kiss them, and marry them...
24:54.729 --> 24:57.170
That's as difficult for them...
24:57.470 --> 25:02.440
as it is for Hani to kiss and marry...
25:02.440 --> 25:05.309
a member of EXID.
25:05.309 --> 25:07.380
That sounds so hard.
25:07.539 --> 25:09.410
- That's exactly it.
- So hard.
25:09.410 --> 25:11.049
That's how hard it is.
25:11.049 --> 25:14.150
But because of social expectations...
25:14.150 --> 25:15.890
and certain social standards...
25:15.890 --> 25:18.789
Making a choice that you hate so much,
25:18.789 --> 25:20.319
I don't think I could do it.
25:20.460 --> 25:22.229
When I didn't know better,
25:22.229 --> 25:25.829
I thought that if people tried, they could
change their sexual orientation.
25:26.029 --> 25:28.200
That's exactly what my parents said.
25:28.430 --> 25:30.269
"Seok Cheon, if you try,
you can change this."
25:30.269 --> 25:31.569
- They said this to me.
- But that's...
25:31.569 --> 25:32.739
Because they didn't know better.
25:32.739 --> 25:33.799
(Misunderstanding and bias
stemmed from ignorance.)
25:33.799 --> 25:37.239
Older people might think
that it's something you can fix.
25:37.239 --> 25:41.180
And they would use an expression
that implies it's wrong.
25:41.509 --> 25:43.610
But in actuality, that's not the case.
25:43.809 --> 25:45.380
You're just like my father.
25:47.049 --> 25:48.249
Get that hand out of my face.
25:50.549 --> 25:51.860
I congratulate you sincerely,
25:52.319 --> 25:54.089
- but I'm a little worried.
- About what?
25:54.089 --> 25:55.160
The two of you.
25:55.259 --> 25:58.190
If you do something like that...
25:58.190 --> 26:00.130
when people don't look favorably
on same-sex couples,
26:00.999 --> 26:02.470
- things could get harder for you.
- Things could get tough.
26:02.470 --> 26:04.930
- Right.
- I did think a lot about that.
26:05.769 --> 26:08.910
I think I'll regret it...
26:08.910 --> 26:10.739
if I don't marry Bo Sung.
26:11.440 --> 26:13.910
I don't think it can be anyone
other than Min Jun.
26:14.880 --> 26:16.309
At first, I was against marriage.
26:17.110 --> 26:18.779
But as we lived together,
26:19.180 --> 26:21.749
I found we share the same values,
and everything was going well,
26:23.120 --> 26:24.350
so I decided on this.
26:25.920 --> 26:28.529
I hope you change
the social perceptions on this issue.
26:28.559 --> 26:30.960
That's right. Break them down.
26:30.960 --> 26:32.529
We genuinely want to do that too.
26:32.900 --> 26:35.829
For anyone who comments badly,
26:35.829 --> 26:37.470
I'm going to add mean comments
to their posts too.
26:37.829 --> 26:39.970
- How reliable!
- What a good friend to have.
26:39.970 --> 26:41.339
How reliable.
26:41.339 --> 26:43.039
I really congratulate you
on your marriage.
26:43.610 --> 26:45.410
- Thank you.
- Thank you.
26:45.479 --> 26:48.279
They have a couple of friends
who really understand them.
26:48.450 --> 26:50.509
(That's such a relief.)
26:50.610 --> 26:55.220
Honestly, we can cheer for them,
26:55.220 --> 26:58.350
but the path they've chosen won't be easy.
26:58.350 --> 27:01.489
In Korea,
27:01.489 --> 27:05.999
can two men apply for a marriage license?
27:07.029 --> 27:08.569
- Not yet.
- No.
27:08.569 --> 27:10.400
That's so sad.
27:10.400 --> 27:14.299
They've made a decision
for their own personal happiness,
27:14.299 --> 27:15.670
but this is standing in their way.
27:15.670 --> 27:18.940
They're blocking off the road...
27:18.940 --> 27:20.779
to my own happiness.
27:20.779 --> 27:23.049
I've asked friends around me...
27:23.049 --> 27:26.380
when they feel the most affected by that.
27:26.380 --> 27:30.289
Let's say the two of us are a couple.
Let's say I suddenly fall ill.
27:30.289 --> 27:32.559
So we go to the hospital,
27:32.559 --> 27:36.190
and they ask, "Are you the caretaker?"
27:36.190 --> 27:39.360
In those situations, they can't be
each other's legal caretakers.
27:39.559 --> 27:41.729
Even though they've lived together
for ten years,
27:41.729 --> 27:43.769
just like a married couple.
27:43.769 --> 27:46.499
- It seems they should have that right.
- But they don't.
27:46.499 --> 27:49.269
Just because they're the same sex,
27:49.509 --> 27:51.009
these problems arise.
27:51.009 --> 27:53.579
- Everything is blocked.
- A lot of things are, yes.
27:57.809 --> 28:00.850
(A refreshing morning that starts off
with the sound of an alarm)
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Who is this couple?
28:07.519 --> 28:08.930
- Look, puppies!
- They have puppies!
28:10.029 --> 28:11.160
They're so cute.
28:12.660 --> 28:13.960
(Tapping)
28:14.460 --> 28:16.870
(Rustling about)
28:20.039 --> 28:21.140
Kiss me.
28:24.640 --> 28:26.279
(Giggling)
28:28.380 --> 28:30.009
You look so ugly.
28:30.479 --> 28:32.519
The first thing they say to each other
is "You look so ugly"?
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- We should go to a swimming pool.
- They're a real couple, all right.
28:35.789 --> 28:37.720
(Overflowing with love)
28:37.720 --> 28:39.089
Get up.
28:40.420 --> 28:42.190
(Get off me.)
28:42.190 --> 28:43.559
(Chuckling)
28:43.630 --> 28:46.160
Get off me, everybody.
28:46.160 --> 28:47.160
That's so cute.
28:47.759 --> 28:48.870
"Get off me, everybody."
28:50.630 --> 28:51.700
Let's go.
28:53.339 --> 28:54.769
Hello.
28:55.569 --> 28:58.880
We've been dating for about two years.
28:58.880 --> 29:01.440
- I'm Min Ju.
- I'm Ji Hae.
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I'm preparing to legally change my gender
from female to male.
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I'm an FTM transgender.
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He's changing his legal gender.
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(Gender change: To legally change
one's gender)
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I'm bisexual.
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Min Ju is a very positive person,
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so when we're together,
I get her positive energy.
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One of her cons is that she's lazy,
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so when we're home together,
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all she wants to do is laze around
and watch dramas.
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(Smiling)
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My boyfriend is well-mannered,
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has a nice body, is sexy,
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doesn't talk much,
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and looks very sincere,
but once he starts talking,
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he has so much charm.
That's one of his pros.
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And he says he loves me very much.
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(Moved)
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They're so cute.
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When we brush our teeth,
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we should put our hands on our hips
and brush our teeth.
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You know that, right?
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(You got something on yourself.)
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(Hold my hair, please.)
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Hold my hair for me too.
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Sure.
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She's holding on to that tiny bit.
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- Have you ever learned to swim?
- No.
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- Do you know how?
- Oh, actually I have.
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You have?
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When I was in elementary school,
I learned Taekwondo.
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And anyone who wanted to learn to swim
could learn it too.
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I learned how to swim then, as a kid.
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(Patting)
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- I'm nervous about swimming.
- Me too.
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I want to swim a lot
so my shoulders get broader.
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He must like sports.
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I'm all done now.
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(So pretty!)
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I'm all done now.
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- I'm fast, right?
- So pretty!
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- Don't lie.
- It's the truth.
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Do I really look pretty?
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Don't lie.
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(Sweet and loving)
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Should we try on our bathing suits?
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(Gasping)
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We have to pack towels and stuff too.
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(Ji Hae changes into his swimsuit.)
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(Rustling)
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- Are you done changing?
- Yes.
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- Are you done changing?
- Yes.
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(A dashing man)
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- How do I look?
- It looks good on you.
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- But there's a problem.
- What is it?
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It looks too empty down there for me.
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(Exclaiming)
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(Feeling pity)
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That's something only he can feel.
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Let me see.
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(Looking this way and that)
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Turn to the side.
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Like this?
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(Well...)
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You shouldn't worry about that.
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Should I put something in there?
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It looks too empty.
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But you're going in the water.
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It'll start floating.
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When we're doing warmup exercises.
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- Warmup exercises.
- Take a look.
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- It looks fine.
- And 1, 2, 3!
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(Laughing her head off)
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- How is it?
- I said it looks fine.
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It looks too empty.
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No one's going to look at you there.
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Should I put one of these in?
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(Please don't.)
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- Let's put one in.
- Stop that.
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When the socks get wet,
they'll get soggy and heavy.
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Socks?
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(Stuffing it in)
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(Oh, my gosh.)
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- How does it look?
- What are you doing?
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Confidence.
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- What do you think?
- It's weird and obvious.
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It doesn't look good?
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This is a serious problem for him.
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I can see that.
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He said he was transgender before,
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but he added some letters to it.
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Yes, there are differences.
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There is FTM,
which stands for "female to male".
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Then there's the opposite, MTF,
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which stands for "male to female".
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- Ji Hae...
- Ji Hae...
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has gotten breast reduction surgery.
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He also exercises a lot,
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and he must be undergoing hormone therapy.
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(Ji Hae tries jogging vigorously.)
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Does it look more natural now?
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It looks too obvious. Don't do it.
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I'm the only one who looks so empty.
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No one will care.
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- Will no one look at me?
- Definitely not.
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Everyone will be busy swimming,
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not staring at yours.
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I've never looked straight on
at someone's crotch like that,
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ever.
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No one looks straight on.
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You must've seen it out of
the corners of your eyes though.
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(Laughing and clapping)
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Just a peek,
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even if it wasn't on purpose,
just here and there.
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You can tell from peeking...
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whether someone is well-developed.
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You're gay, so you look a lot.
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- I do?
- At the pool, is that even necessary?
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I've never really looked.
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But people are walking around
in bathing suits,
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so sometimes you just see it.
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Even when he's swimming,
he only watches the backstroke.
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(Bursting into laughter)
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Men's backstroke.
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This is my first time
going to a real swimming pool,
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not one in an amusement park.
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Ever since I was young,
I wanted to go to a pool,
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but there was my chest, and they wanted
me to wear a women's bathing suit.
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You must've really hated
the women's bathing suit part.
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- Of course I did.
- So you must not have gone.
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I only wanted to go.
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I never even thought, "Let's go."
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If I were alone, I wouldn't have
the courage to go to a swimming pool.
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I only have the courage now
because I'm with you.
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- That's why I'm so scared now.
- I bet.
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Once I get more muscle,
I won't even wear a rashguard.
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I'm just going to go topless.
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I'm so nervous.
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(At the pool in Cheonan)
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This is going to be fun.
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- Hello.
- Hello.
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Is it your first time here?
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- Yes.
- I'll go over the basics with you then.
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First, the man can take this key...
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and go to the changing room
on the first floor.
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The woman can go to the second floor.
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But...
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I'm in the process of changing my gender
from female to male.
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So the changing rooms are a problem.
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- I see.
- My birth certificate hasn't changed yet.
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(Seok Cheon has turned to stone.)
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It hasn't changed yet.
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So that employee has to decide
which changing room to assign.
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How will he do that?
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That's so complicated.
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You're not uncomfortable both using
the second-floor changing room then?
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You don't want to go into
the women's changing room?
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(Ji Hae and Min Ju become quiet.)
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Of course.
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- So that's how it is.
- So that's a problem.
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I thought you were a couple,
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so I thought it would be fine to guide you
as a man and a woman,
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but because this time might overlap
with others using the pool,
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I will need to go through
some confirmation processes first.
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I'll help you with entry after seeing
your passport or ID card.
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- Then we'll have to go back home.
- We'll have to get them from home.
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I'm afraid that will be necessary
even if it's inconvenient for you.
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(What?)
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- Then we'll show them to you later.
- All right.
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So they're going home?
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- They couldn't go to the pool?
- But they were so excited.
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There are so many things
that are inconvenient.
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(Sighing deeply)
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There are a lot of things
you can't take for granted.
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Are you feeling okay, honey?
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I did anticipate this,
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but everything is inconvenient.
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It's because we haven't finished
your legal gender change.
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That's why you're going through...
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so many difficult things.
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For MTF transgenders,
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once they finish going through
their legal gender change,
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they can go to women's bathhouses too.
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They can shower as women
in the swimming pools.
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But in our case,
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changing genders doesn't change anything.
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Whenever there's a situation like this,
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I want to get gender-affirming surgery
for my genitals too.
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- Gender-affirming surgery for genitals?
- Yes.
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(Min Ju feels more concerned
since she knows how Ji Hae feels.)
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Hello?
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Yes, I'm calling from the pool...
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- which you visited earlier.
- Hello.
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This is the first time we've experienced
this kind of situation,
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so we need to confer before we make
any final decisions.
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I'm calling to say you should come back
another time.
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- What?
- So we can't come back today?
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Yes, I think that will be difficult.
I'm sorry.
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- They were denied entry.
- All right.
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I'm sorry. See you again next time.
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All right.
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Gosh.
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(One phone call makes
even their smallest hope vanish.)
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Wait a minute, this is...
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They were so excited,
trying on their bathing suits earlier.
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So even if they brought their IDs,
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they still wouldn't be allowed in.
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- That's very...
- That must be so painful.
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Changing rooms, bathrooms,
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saunas, swimming pools, etc.
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When transgender people go
to these places,
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these kinds of problems often crop up.
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They're always running into walls.
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Right, and they have to think of ways
to get around those obstacles.
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You said you were going
to make me dinner tonight.
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What are we going to eat?
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What are you making for me today?
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Since you've had no energy lately...
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- I'm going to make you abalone porridge.
- Abalone porridge.
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We're also having sliced raw octopus.
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- You know how to make abalone porridge?
- She's cooking for him.
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Yes.
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But you haven't made it before.
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It'll be fine. Trust me.
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If you use these,
you'll get a lot of guts to use.
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- About three of them, right?
- Or eight.
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Why are you suddenly making me
abalone porridge?
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You seem to be low on energy lately,
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so it's to give you more energy.
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- Isn't that impressive?
- What will I do with more energy?
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With more energy, be energetic!
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(Giggling)
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What do you mean by that?
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- Be energetic with more energy.
- I'm making it for you.
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- I'm so moved.
- So moved.
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Here you go.
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- Thank you.
- Are you a married couple?
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- Yes.
- Yes.
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(Giggling)
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Have a fun life!
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- Thank you.
- Thank you.
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- We must be a married couple.
- We're newlyweds.
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I'll make abalone porridge for you.
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(Sighing)
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They're alive.
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- They're moving.
- They have to clean them first.
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- Look, the dirt's coming off.
- That's right.
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We have to go to the bathhouse too.
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I can't go there.
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Oh, no.
39:49.089 --> 39:51.089
We went once a long time ago.
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I guess that was our first and last time.
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That's true.
39:54.959 --> 39:57.100
For the two of them to go
to the bathhouse together,
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they'll have to go to the women's bath,
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but Ji Hae can't do that.
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Because they started dating
when they were both women.
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I'll just scrub your back for you at home.
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That sounds great.
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We just do this, and then boil.
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(Working hard)
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It's starting to look like porridge.
40:17.489 --> 40:22.319
(Adding the finishing touch)
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(Dropping the egg on top)
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We're done cooking.
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Min Ju, thank you for the meal.
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No problem.
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- It looks so tasty.
- Eat up.
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I gave you a lot of abalones,
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so you can have more energy.
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(Taking a bite)
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(Eyes widening, brows furrowing)
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- Is it really good?
- Yes.
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- But is it really good?
- Yes.
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(Happy)
40:49.750 --> 40:50.950
It's so delicious.
40:51.390 --> 40:52.620
Really.
40:52.689 --> 40:54.290
The abalone is so tender.
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- It's really good.
- It's really good.
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Really.
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They're so pretty together.
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(Proud of them)
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Min Ju,
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I want to legally change my gender
from female to male.
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When I told you I wanted to change
my legal gender to male,
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how did you feel?
41:16.950 --> 41:18.549
At first, what I thought was,
41:19.520 --> 41:22.379
"Really? Is that necessary?"
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And that's because...
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I hadn't talked with you
about this topic seriously yet,
41:27.689 --> 41:32.189
so I didn't know you wanted
to become a man, honestly.
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I thought we could just live
the way we were living.
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I wondered if it was necessary
to change your gender.
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In any case, if I change my gender
from female to male,
41:40.140 --> 41:41.799
- I become transgender.
- Right.
41:41.799 --> 41:43.739
But for me,
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as I'm sure it was for many people,
41:45.669 --> 41:49.109
I didn't feel comfortable hearing that.
41:49.239 --> 41:52.080
"You're a tranny?"
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That doesn't feel nice.
41:53.319 --> 41:55.750
But what I'm curious about...
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is when you completely transition
to being male,
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what's the first thing you want to do?
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The very first thing.
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When you become a Korean male.
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What do you want to do first?
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(Thinking deeply)
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- I was curious about that too.
- Maybe start with military service?
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(Chuckling)
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For example,
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marry me?
42:17.839 --> 42:19.310
(Bursting into laughter)
42:19.310 --> 42:21.040
It seems like there was a right answer
before she asked the question.
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The answer is already set.
42:23.109 --> 42:24.509
(For example,)
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(marry...)
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(me?)
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No, not that.
42:30.020 --> 42:31.149
Well...
42:31.149 --> 42:32.189
(Snorting with laughter)
42:33.220 --> 42:36.029
- That's disappointing.
- Not that.
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(Thinking for a while)
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When you go to the hospital,
42:40.759 --> 42:43.629
there's a figure of a woman
drawn on my chart.
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It says "Yu Ji Hae, female."
42:45.870 --> 42:49.609
There's a female drawing on my chart,
and it says "female" on it.
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Even if I go to the hospital,
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they ask me if the gender
on my ID card is wrong.
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The first thing I'll do...
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- is go to the hospital and change my ID.
- Go to the hospital.
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I want it to show a male figure.
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That must be a life trauma for him.
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That's right.
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Everyone feels natural about it.
43:12.629 --> 43:14.560
(Feeling sorry)
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Honestly,
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as your partner,
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I can understand you broadly
and support you with warmth,
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but our parents and families
might not be able to do that.
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This is how I did it.
43:31.480 --> 43:34.480
I didn't tell them I wanted
to change my legal gender at first.
43:34.480 --> 43:37.120
I told my mother I just wanted
gender-affirming top surgery first.
43:37.120 --> 43:39.560
She said no, so I insisted on doing it.
43:39.560 --> 43:41.160
So I got top surgery...
43:41.520 --> 43:45.089
and then told my mother that
I could now get my uterus removed...
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and change my legal gender to male.
43:46.859 --> 43:49.060
My mother said she wouldn't allow that.
43:49.569 --> 43:52.470
I told her that until now,
43:52.470 --> 43:55.939
it's been so hard for me to live
as a woman.
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"Mom, you don't know how that feels,
do you?" Then my mom said...
44:00.180 --> 44:02.540
that she respected me.
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That's a true parent.
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That's why I'm so grateful to my mother.
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I'm amazed by that.
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That's so impressive.
44:16.859 --> 44:19.230
Min Ju, what do your parents...
44:19.230 --> 44:21.600
think about your sexual orientation?
44:21.700 --> 44:23.069
(Hesitating)
44:23.069 --> 44:26.899
Before I started dating you,
I only dated men.
44:27.439 --> 44:30.040
My parents probably never dreamed...
44:30.040 --> 44:32.370
that I liked other genders.
44:32.370 --> 44:35.680
But after meeting you...
44:35.680 --> 44:38.680
and bringing you home
to meet my parents as my partner...
44:38.680 --> 44:41.350
I said you were a woman,
even if you seemed like a man.
44:41.350 --> 44:42.989
They asked me if I was lying.
44:42.989 --> 44:46.560
"How can he be a woman?
He's definitely a man."
44:46.560 --> 44:48.089
That's what they said at first.
44:48.089 --> 44:50.830
They weren't opposed to it, per se,
44:51.259 --> 44:53.500
but they weren't supportive.
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They just respect me.
44:55.830 --> 44:58.500
- They respect it but don't like it.
- They don't like it.
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But for me,
45:01.669 --> 45:03.810
I've dated countless women in the past...
45:03.810 --> 45:04.810
Countless women?
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- He has to be careful what he says.
- You're so full of yourself.
45:07.609 --> 45:10.180
I've dated countless...
45:10.980 --> 45:14.020
You've dated countless men,
and I've dated countless women.
45:14.020 --> 45:15.319
It's not countless for me.
45:15.319 --> 45:16.989
- It's more than ten though.
- It's not.
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(Snorting)
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You want me to count? Now?
45:20.160 --> 45:22.160
You know all of them?
Should I count them all?
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No, first of all,
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I'll take out the "countless".
45:26.560 --> 45:29.060
I've dated a lot of women,
45:29.330 --> 45:33.200
but none of them told their parents
about me,
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which I found disappointing.
But when we started dating,
45:36.140 --> 45:39.839
I didn't even ask you to say anything,
but you told your parents on your own.
45:39.839 --> 45:40.839
(Smiling)
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That moved me.
45:42.310 --> 45:44.450
I was never embarrassed.
45:44.450 --> 45:46.180
So that's when you fell for me?
45:46.580 --> 45:48.480
Yes, you were so impressive.
45:49.220 --> 45:52.620
Other couples, regular couples,
45:52.620 --> 45:55.819
don't find it moving when they tell
each other's parents...
45:56.089 --> 45:58.790
that they have a boyfriend or girlfriend.
That's just how it is.
45:59.330 --> 46:01.359
- I'm sure it is.
- It is.
46:02.700 --> 46:05.299
I just told them without thinking
that I was dating you,
46:05.299 --> 46:08.669
and it upsets me a little that it's
something you would find moving.
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She's got a deep heart.
46:10.939 --> 46:13.109
- Min Ju does.
- Yes.
46:14.680 --> 46:16.509
We didn't eat any of the octopus.
46:18.350 --> 46:20.250
Because of the swimming pool incident,
46:21.279 --> 46:25.020
because of me,
46:25.089 --> 46:26.859
we couldn't go in.
46:28.520 --> 46:31.390
Right now, I'm neither male nor female.
46:31.529 --> 46:32.629
You're mid-male.
46:32.629 --> 46:34.129
(Giggling)
46:34.230 --> 46:38.100
Later, once I legally change my gender,
46:38.100 --> 46:40.140
I'll just enter the men's changing room.
46:40.140 --> 46:42.540
For me, honestly,
46:42.700 --> 46:44.770
if I were to live your life,
46:46.040 --> 46:47.910
I would change my gender.
46:49.339 --> 46:53.020
The gender I want, the work I want to do,
I'm going to achieve all of these.
46:53.750 --> 46:54.819
You can do it.
46:55.279 --> 46:56.520
Do it all.
46:56.549 --> 46:58.419
(Giggling)
46:58.620 --> 47:01.290
They're so adorable.
47:01.720 --> 47:04.029
To support so reliably beside him.
47:04.029 --> 47:08.359
"Do everything you want to do.
Go everywhere you want to go."
47:08.359 --> 47:09.500
(That's so beautiful!)
47:09.500 --> 47:12.100
Hani keeps saying beside me
that it's so impressive...
47:12.100 --> 47:14.470
how they support each other
with what they tell one another.
47:14.470 --> 47:18.069
Regardless of them being LGBTQ,
47:18.069 --> 47:20.939
the way they care for one another...
47:20.939 --> 47:22.480
is so adorable to watch,
47:22.480 --> 47:26.919
the way they think of each other,
take care of each other, and support.
47:27.080 --> 47:29.480
That's so visible. It was lovely to see.
47:29.480 --> 47:32.250
What I found very moving...
47:32.750 --> 47:35.589
is that telling your parents honestly...
47:35.660 --> 47:39.359
about your partner...
47:39.660 --> 47:42.230
is a really hard thing to do
in this world.
47:42.230 --> 47:43.230
(I see.)
47:43.230 --> 47:44.970
It's really hard.
47:45.000 --> 47:48.399
Gay couples,
47:48.799 --> 47:53.939
transgender and bisexual couples...
47:54.009 --> 47:56.950
They are all people loving each other...
47:56.950 --> 47:58.980
as a human being to a human being.
47:59.250 --> 48:01.720
It's good to see something like that,
48:01.819 --> 48:03.589
- and it's beautiful to see.
- It really is.
48:03.589 --> 48:04.790
That's what I think.
48:05.089 --> 48:07.290
It's not that different from watching
"My Little Old Boy".
48:07.290 --> 48:09.689
(Giggling)
48:11.259 --> 48:13.160
(The day I want to remember forever:
July 6, 2020)
48:13.160 --> 48:14.660
Where should I call first?
48:15.330 --> 48:20.200
(Ka Ram is lost in thought
in the morning.)
48:21.470 --> 48:23.040
Should I try here first?
48:24.470 --> 48:25.709
What are you doing?
48:25.870 --> 48:28.480
We agreed to call these places today.
48:29.850 --> 48:31.680
I don't know where to start.
48:31.910 --> 48:34.020
Let's start at the top
and call all of them.
48:34.020 --> 48:35.779
We'll have to call around
to several places anyway.
48:35.779 --> 48:37.589
- I'm a little worried.
- Why?
48:37.620 --> 48:41.589
They won't reject us just because
we're a lesbian couple, will they?
48:41.859 --> 48:44.689
No. That's why you have to be
confident when you're asking.
48:44.830 --> 48:47.259
If you act hesitant,
48:47.259 --> 48:49.660
they'll assume you're asking
for something odd.
48:49.660 --> 48:51.200
- So I have to be confident?
- Yes.
48:51.200 --> 48:52.270
Should we try?
48:52.270 --> 48:53.299
(Worried)
48:53.299 --> 48:54.569
I'm a bit nervous.
48:54.569 --> 48:55.870
(Nervous)
48:56.299 --> 48:57.609
What are they trying to do?
48:59.709 --> 49:01.640
Yes, thank you for calling.
49:01.640 --> 49:05.950
Hello, we wanted a consultation
with a wedding planner.
49:06.009 --> 49:09.149
(A consultation with a wedding planner?)
49:09.149 --> 49:10.149
All right.
49:10.149 --> 49:14.419
We're a lesbian couple,
but is this possible regardless?
49:14.620 --> 49:16.089
- Wedding planning.
- A wedding.
49:16.089 --> 49:18.060
- Just a moment.
- Yes.
49:18.129 --> 49:19.230
All right.
49:20.230 --> 49:22.359
- She's flustered.
- Yes.
49:22.359 --> 49:23.470
(Will it be possible?)
49:23.470 --> 49:25.270
The one picking up the call was flustered.
49:25.270 --> 49:27.239
(Very nervous)
49:28.069 --> 49:29.770
She's going to ask someone.
49:30.239 --> 49:31.770
She didn't hang up, right?
49:32.709 --> 49:34.080
No, she didn't.
49:34.080 --> 49:35.540
- Hello?
- Yes.
49:35.540 --> 49:37.980
We'll need to confirm first...
49:37.980 --> 49:40.680
before we go ahead
with booking your appointment.
49:40.680 --> 49:42.319
I see.
49:42.580 --> 49:45.489
We don't have a date in mind.
49:45.489 --> 49:47.290
If you tell us possible dates,
49:47.290 --> 49:49.319
we'll cater to your schedule.
49:49.419 --> 49:51.959
All right. Let me just check this,
49:51.959 --> 49:54.799
and call you back on this number.
Thank you.
49:54.799 --> 49:56.870
Yes, thank you.
49:57.430 --> 49:58.870
I don't think she'll call back.
50:00.100 --> 50:02.270
She said she'll confirm and call us back.
50:02.370 --> 50:04.739
But what she's confirming...
50:04.810 --> 50:07.910
Is it confirming the number of guests...
50:08.009 --> 50:11.310
or is it confirming that same-sex
weddings are allowed there?
50:11.310 --> 50:12.480
Don't you think it'd be the former?
50:12.480 --> 50:16.350
But who is she checking with...
50:16.350 --> 50:17.589
to see if same-sex weddings are allowed?
50:19.589 --> 50:21.759
She's just an employee,
50:21.759 --> 50:24.390
so it seems like she's going to check
because she doesn't really know.
50:24.660 --> 50:27.200
But I'm not sure this is something
that needs to be double-checked.
50:27.200 --> 50:30.569
If the company presidents change
the way they think a bit,
50:30.569 --> 50:32.000
it will all be possible.
50:32.500 --> 50:34.470
Let's try someplace else.
50:35.100 --> 50:37.169
(What about this time?)
50:37.169 --> 50:38.509
Hello.
50:38.509 --> 50:43.009
Hello, we wanted to get a consultation
with a wedding planner.
50:43.180 --> 50:46.009
We are a lesbian couple.
50:46.009 --> 50:47.950
Does that matter?
50:48.819 --> 50:50.120
(Silence)
50:50.120 --> 50:51.720
No, it's fine.
50:51.720 --> 50:55.390
First, we'll find out which planner
we can assign to you,
50:55.390 --> 50:57.029
then connect you to the planner.
50:57.029 --> 50:59.859
- All right.
- We'll send you some simple questions,
50:59.859 --> 51:03.629
like your desired date, in a text.
51:03.629 --> 51:05.970
If you can reply to that,
51:05.970 --> 51:09.069
we can provide you with services
that align with your responses.
51:09.069 --> 51:10.310
(What a relief.)
51:10.310 --> 51:12.669
- It turned out well.
- That's so positive.
51:12.939 --> 51:16.509
- All right. Thank you.
- Thank you.
51:17.609 --> 51:18.910
She wasn't fazed at all.
51:19.009 --> 51:21.419
She was so cheerful throughout.
51:21.720 --> 51:23.819
Let's add it to the list.
51:23.890 --> 51:25.989
- Next place? Here?
- Let's call the next place.
51:25.989 --> 51:28.359
(Ka Ram and Seung Eun
gain courage from the positive reaction.)
51:28.359 --> 51:30.759
Yes, hello.
51:30.759 --> 51:34.859
Hello, we'd like a consultation
with a wedding planner.
51:35.160 --> 51:38.899
I see. Could I have the names
of the bride and groom?
51:38.899 --> 51:42.799
We are a lesbian couple. Does that matter?
51:43.709 --> 51:45.609
(Pausing)
51:45.609 --> 51:46.680
Is that so?
51:46.680 --> 51:49.439
Actually, we are no longer providing
consultations...
51:49.439 --> 51:51.509
to same-sex couples.
51:51.509 --> 51:52.750
Oh, really?
51:53.680 --> 51:54.980
- Yes.
- Why is that?
51:55.680 --> 51:58.649
Problems with family members
and parents who don't approve...
51:58.649 --> 52:00.160
kept arising.
52:03.020 --> 52:06.660
So there wasn't a single couple
that went through with the wedding?
52:07.129 --> 52:10.370
No, not yet.
52:10.770 --> 52:12.430
All right. I understand.
52:12.529 --> 52:13.899
All right.
52:15.339 --> 52:17.239
I think she just didn't want
to take us on as clients.
52:17.509 --> 52:19.640
There are a lot of parents who approve.
52:20.279 --> 52:22.910
Even for heterosexual couples,
52:22.910 --> 52:25.480
there are plenty of parents
who don't approve of marriage.
52:25.480 --> 52:27.950
This makes me fearful again for no reason.
52:28.480 --> 52:30.689
There are plenty of other places.
52:30.689 --> 52:33.919
But the other place we called
reacted so positively to us.
52:37.129 --> 52:39.830
This is something...
52:39.830 --> 52:40.830
(The MCs' hearts have grown heavy too.)
52:40.830 --> 52:45.930
where we can say we support
a beautiful love in our head.
52:45.930 --> 52:47.839
I've only thought about it
in these vague terms,
52:48.569 --> 52:52.470
but in reality,
there are so many obstacles,
52:52.470 --> 52:54.910
and so many difficulties encountered.
52:54.910 --> 52:55.939
(In reality, there are so many obstacles
and so many difficulties.)
52:55.939 --> 52:58.450
Earlier, Ji Hae mentioned...
52:58.980 --> 53:03.850
that everything is inconvenient.
53:04.419 --> 53:07.390
- That's right.
- Now I see what he means.
53:07.720 --> 53:10.390
They're confident in their love,
53:11.629 --> 53:14.500
but they know that's not obvious
to everyone.
53:14.500 --> 53:16.459
Every time they call,
they already anticipate this.
53:16.459 --> 53:19.470
There are obstacles they faced
in reality...
53:19.470 --> 53:22.100
and in actual situations,
53:22.239 --> 53:24.569
but for me, I kept thinking...
53:24.569 --> 53:27.080
that the nervousness they feel
while they call places,
53:27.410 --> 53:29.509
the inability to dream about things
in advance,
53:29.509 --> 53:31.379
I find that wall...
53:31.379 --> 53:34.450
- to be so tangible as well.
- That's true.
53:35.020 --> 53:36.989
But it's so strange.
53:37.350 --> 53:40.259
I had given up on these things.
53:40.859 --> 53:45.089
- But these couples are aiming for them.
- That's right.
53:45.259 --> 53:47.799
As I was watching this,
53:48.600 --> 53:49.859
I wondered,
53:50.029 --> 53:52.870
"Is there a difference between
Gen Z and the old generation here too?"
53:53.270 --> 53:56.739
I'm kind of an older generation gay.
53:57.239 --> 53:59.569
- I'm an older generation gay.
- Old Gay.
53:59.569 --> 54:00.839
Old Gay.
54:00.839 --> 54:02.080
Right now...
54:02.080 --> 54:04.480
They want to change...
54:04.480 --> 54:06.819
their gender legally,
54:06.819 --> 54:09.080
regardless of whether it's possible.
54:09.080 --> 54:12.250
It's thanks to the old generation of gays
that this is possible for them.
54:13.890 --> 54:15.689
To me, coming out is...
54:15.790 --> 54:17.560
To me, coming out is...
54:17.560 --> 54:19.189
To me, coming out is...
54:20.129 --> 54:21.430
a piece of cake.
54:21.859 --> 54:23.359
A turning point in my life.
54:23.669 --> 54:26.669
It's just telling the truth.
54:26.669 --> 54:28.339
It's the heaviest burden I bear.
54:29.100 --> 54:31.770
It's a gateway to becoming the real me.
54:32.109 --> 54:35.009
It can be poison or medicine.
54:35.439 --> 54:37.509
The more time passes, the more I know...
54:37.509 --> 54:40.250
that it's not something
to be embarrassed about.
54:40.250 --> 54:42.580
I believe it is not something
anyone should be embarrassed about.
54:42.980 --> 54:45.390
Before I came out,
54:45.390 --> 54:47.589
I was very worried as I went through life.
54:47.819 --> 54:50.089
But after I came out,
54:50.359 --> 54:53.660
I realized it wasn't that big a deal.
54:54.259 --> 54:58.299
You don't say it so you hear what you want
from others.
54:58.330 --> 55:01.500
Coming out makes me more like myself.
55:04.870 --> 55:10.709
(What is coming out to us?)
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