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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:11,144 --> 00:00:14,214 Several women were victimized in Baton Rouge. 2 00:00:15,415 --> 00:00:17,784 [Dana] People that had high-risk lifestyles 3 00:00:17,817 --> 00:00:19,486 that were killed. 4 00:00:19,519 --> 00:00:21,888 There were women that were take from their homes and killed. 5 00:00:21,921 --> 00:00:23,466 [Christopher] We knew we had a serial killer 6 00:00:23,490 --> 00:00:24,991 operating in the city of Baton Rouge. 7 00:00:26,393 --> 00:00:28,237 [Pat] I think that the fear at Baton Rouge at that point 8 00:00:28,261 --> 00:00:30,163 was starting to get at a tipping point. 9 00:00:30,497 --> 00:00:32,198 Remain calm. I know there's a lot of fear 10 00:00:32,232 --> 00:00:33,533 in the city and I feel it. 11 00:00:33,566 --> 00:00:36,302 I didn't even know he was a serial killer. 12 00:00:36,703 --> 00:00:38,338 I believe I survived 13 00:00:38,371 --> 00:00:41,408 because God needed to use someone 14 00:00:41,441 --> 00:00:44,177 to bring justice for their loved ones. 15 00:00:44,744 --> 00:00:47,313 [Reporter] A break in the Louisiana serial killer case. 16 00:00:47,347 --> 00:00:49,482 An arrest warrant for Derrick Todd Lee 17 00:00:49,516 --> 00:00:51,818 has been issued at East Baton Rouge Parish. 18 00:00:51,851 --> 00:00:53,920 On the charges of first-degree murder 19 00:00:53,953 --> 00:00:55,355 and aggravated rape. 20 00:00:56,389 --> 00:00:58,324 [Dana] For the city of Baton Rouge, 21 00:00:58,358 --> 00:01:02,062 it was a collective sigh of relief. 22 00:01:02,629 --> 00:01:05,098 [Max] And then as soon as you can take a breath 23 00:01:05,131 --> 00:01:07,567 and you realize that that's over, it's not over. 24 00:01:08,168 --> 00:01:10,537 [Dana] We have these murders that are differen 25 00:01:10,570 --> 00:01:13,139 happening in downtown Baton Rouge. 26 00:01:13,173 --> 00:01:15,809 Could we have another serial killer? 27 00:01:16,343 --> 00:01:19,512 [Bryan] Katherine Hall was significantly cut 28 00:01:19,546 --> 00:01:21,247 where you could actually see the bone. 29 00:01:21,281 --> 00:01:22,615 [Max] On Johnnie Mae Williams, 30 00:01:22,649 --> 00:01:25,185 we discovered her hands had been removed. 31 00:01:25,685 --> 00:01:27,954 Donna Bennett Johnston, one of her arms 32 00:01:27,987 --> 00:01:30,457 had been severed from the elbow down. 33 00:01:30,490 --> 00:01:32,559 [Prem] You've got these ritualistic cuttings. 34 00:01:32,592 --> 00:01:35,095 This is a totally different animal. 35 00:01:35,562 --> 00:01:37,797 They absolutely know at this point, 36 00:01:38,164 --> 00:01:41,267 this is serial killer number two. 37 00:01:42,002 --> 00:01:44,971 [Dana] I couldn't even imagine what type of person 38 00:01:45,005 --> 00:01:46,239 would do this. 39 00:01:46,272 --> 00:01:48,174 It didn't make any sense. 40 00:01:48,208 --> 00:01:50,610 [Bryan] And there was more female victims 41 00:01:50,643 --> 00:01:51,811 popping up around town. 42 00:01:52,212 --> 00:01:55,148 It was incredible to even contemplate. 43 00:01:55,181 --> 00:01:57,317 And then the next one happened. 44 00:01:57,350 --> 00:02:01,388 But could there be a third serial killer? 45 00:02:01,421 --> 00:02:05,358 [music] 46 00:02:12,065 --> 00:02:16,536 ♪ Like a whisper in the hollow 47 00:02:16,569 --> 00:02:21,541 ♪ Tears fall down while they pray for tomorrow ♪ 48 00:02:21,841 --> 00:02:25,645 ♪ Nobody knows Nobody sees ♪ 49 00:02:25,679 --> 00:02:30,059 ♪ Search back of roads and cold city streets ♪ 50 00:02:30,083 --> 00:02:33,887 ♪ There's evil in the dark ♪ 51 00:02:34,754 --> 00:02:40,360 ♪ Blood on the hands and the devil will follow ♪ 52 00:02:43,697 --> 00:02:48,401 [music] 53 00:02:48,435 --> 00:02:52,806 February of '04, the body of Donna Johnston was recovered 54 00:02:52,839 --> 00:02:55,508 in a remote canal near LSU. 55 00:02:55,975 --> 00:02:58,445 When they were working the Donna Johnston scene, 56 00:02:58,478 --> 00:03:00,447 we discovered a tire track. 57 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:02,282 The tire that we were looking at 58 00:03:02,315 --> 00:03:05,785 was ultimately identified was a Goodyear Aquatred 3. 59 00:03:06,286 --> 00:03:08,488 When we identified the individuals 60 00:03:08,521 --> 00:03:10,724 that had the tire from Goodyear, 61 00:03:10,757 --> 00:03:13,126 one of those was Sean Vincent Gillis. 62 00:03:14,561 --> 00:03:17,697 The following day, I went to see Mr. Gillis 63 00:03:17,731 --> 00:03:19,666 at his residence. 64 00:03:20,367 --> 00:03:22,769 That's when we asked him for his swab. 65 00:03:22,802 --> 00:03:26,740 He readily volunteered to provide a DNA sample. 66 00:03:28,708 --> 00:03:32,746 Sean agreed to come down to the office for questioning. 67 00:03:33,813 --> 00:03:36,649 Before he got in the vehicle, he smoked half his cigarette, 68 00:03:36,683 --> 00:03:38,451 and he threw it on the ground, and he said, 69 00:03:38,485 --> 00:03:40,387 "Let's get this over with." 70 00:03:43,823 --> 00:03:46,559 [music] 71 00:03:50,530 --> 00:03:52,665 [Bryan] My first impression of Sean was 72 00:03:52,699 --> 00:03:56,836 that he was an intelligent person, well-spoken. 73 00:03:57,137 --> 00:03:59,639 He seemed at ease, but you could tell 74 00:03:59,673 --> 00:04:01,941 there was some underlying tension. 75 00:04:16,856 --> 00:04:19,059 [Bryan] The question then moved on to, 76 00:04:19,092 --> 00:04:21,461 had he ever been out to that field 77 00:04:21,494 --> 00:04:23,797 where Donna Johnston's body was found? 78 00:04:25,398 --> 00:04:27,567 And he said, yes, he had been familiar 79 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:29,135 with that pasture out there, 80 00:04:29,169 --> 00:04:30,970 that he used to go out there frequently 81 00:04:31,071 --> 00:04:32,372 to smoke weed. 82 00:04:43,183 --> 00:04:45,585 He said, in fact, couple nights prior, 83 00:04:45,618 --> 00:04:48,621 that he had gone out there on his way home. 84 00:04:54,627 --> 00:04:57,330 Gillis claimed that he had to use the restroom, 85 00:04:57,364 --> 00:05:00,166 so he proceeded to this field 86 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:02,369 where the body was located 87 00:05:02,402 --> 00:05:05,372 to get out and do his thing. 88 00:05:12,679 --> 00:05:15,348 So he put himself at that location 89 00:05:15,382 --> 00:05:16,750 where her body was. 90 00:05:16,783 --> 00:05:19,028 We said, "Well, why would you go there 91 00:05:19,052 --> 00:05:21,087 instead of going to your house? 92 00:05:21,588 --> 00:05:24,124 [Max] It would've been very easy for him 93 00:05:24,157 --> 00:05:25,291 to just go directly home. 94 00:05:25,325 --> 00:05:29,038 It wouldn't have been hardly any longer to get there, 95 00:05:29,062 --> 00:05:30,764 and it just didn't make sense. 96 00:05:30,797 --> 00:05:32,866 [Bryan] He made some incredible statements 97 00:05:32,899 --> 00:05:34,734 that really tied into the victims, 98 00:05:34,768 --> 00:05:37,871 along with the fact that he said he knew Johnnie Mae 99 00:05:37,904 --> 00:05:40,206 and she had frequently ridden in his vehicle with him, 100 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:42,142 and he had had sex with her. 101 00:05:42,175 --> 00:05:44,577 He put himself at that location 102 00:05:44,611 --> 00:05:47,080 where Donna Johnston's body was found. 103 00:05:47,647 --> 00:05:49,716 Once he admitted that his car 104 00:05:49,749 --> 00:05:52,218 had absolutely made the tire track 105 00:05:52,252 --> 00:05:53,453 and that he had backed up 106 00:05:53,486 --> 00:05:57,624 exactly where the car would have backed up to dump the body, 107 00:05:57,657 --> 00:06:00,026 it became apparent that it was him. 108 00:06:00,593 --> 00:06:02,896 It was obvious he was starting to panic 109 00:06:02,929 --> 00:06:04,731 because of some of the things he said, 110 00:06:04,764 --> 00:06:07,667 which was only pointing a finger more at him. 111 00:06:08,768 --> 00:06:10,670 [Jeff] After several hours of questioning, 112 00:06:10,704 --> 00:06:13,606 Mr. Gillis, he didn't confess to anything. 113 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:15,608 And he looked at me and he said, 114 00:06:15,642 --> 00:06:17,577 "Jeff, you told me you'd take me home 115 00:06:17,610 --> 00:06:19,813 when I'm ready to go home. And I'm ready to go home." 116 00:06:20,513 --> 00:06:23,650 [Max] We were 99% sure it was him. 117 00:06:24,150 --> 00:06:25,952 We had developed probable cause. 118 00:06:26,052 --> 00:06:28,421 We certainly could have charged him at that point, 119 00:06:28,455 --> 00:06:30,123 but we wanted to make sure 120 00:06:30,156 --> 00:06:32,359 that we weren't wrong. 121 00:06:33,693 --> 00:06:36,496 We put surveillance on Mr. Gillis 122 00:06:36,529 --> 00:06:37,731 the minute he got home. 123 00:06:38,932 --> 00:06:40,676 [Bryan] At this point, it was just a waiting game 124 00:06:40,700 --> 00:06:42,268 for the crime lab to give us a word 125 00:06:42,302 --> 00:06:44,070 whether his DNA was a match. 126 00:06:44,304 --> 00:06:47,273 [Prem] Within four hours, they got a hit. 127 00:06:47,307 --> 00:06:48,608 "We've got a match, 128 00:06:48,641 --> 00:06:51,845 and the killer of these women is, in fact, 129 00:06:51,878 --> 00:06:53,680 Sean Vincent Gillis." 130 00:06:56,850 --> 00:06:58,184 [music] 131 00:06:58,218 --> 00:07:01,454 [Bryan] "Sean's DNA has matched to all three of our victims. 132 00:07:01,488 --> 00:07:04,557 It's him. Absolutely, it's him." 133 00:07:05,358 --> 00:07:07,594 I drafted an arrest warrant for him 134 00:07:07,627 --> 00:07:09,696 for the murder of Katherine Hall, 135 00:07:09,729 --> 00:07:12,165 Johnnie Mae Williams, and Donna Bennett Johnston. 136 00:07:13,299 --> 00:07:16,636 Once the warrants were signed, SWAT hits the house. 137 00:07:21,207 --> 00:07:22,676 My name is Terri Lemoine 138 00:07:22,709 --> 00:07:25,545 and I lived with Sean Gillis for nine years. 139 00:07:26,746 --> 00:07:29,549 [Terri] April 29th, 2004, 140 00:07:29,883 --> 00:07:33,186 I was off that night and home. 141 00:07:33,219 --> 00:07:35,522 And for some reason, Sean came to bed 142 00:07:35,555 --> 00:07:36,756 at the same time I did, 143 00:07:36,790 --> 00:07:40,060 which was something he never did. 144 00:07:40,927 --> 00:07:44,464 Not even 10 seconds after I had turned the light off, 145 00:07:44,497 --> 00:07:45,899 [metallic banging] 146 00:07:45,932 --> 00:07:48,702 there was what sounded like a crash in the kitchen. 147 00:07:48,735 --> 00:07:50,337 And people were yelling, 148 00:07:50,370 --> 00:07:52,339 and all of a sudden, the door got kicked in 149 00:07:52,372 --> 00:07:53,873 to the bedroom. 150 00:07:53,907 --> 00:07:56,876 And I'm standing in my bedroom, in my bed clothes, 151 00:07:56,910 --> 00:07:58,712 with a bunch of policemen around me. 152 00:07:58,745 --> 00:08:00,990 And I'm wanting to know what is going on. 153 00:08:01,014 --> 00:08:04,050 I want to know what's going on right now. 154 00:08:06,286 --> 00:08:09,222 The policemen turned around, and looked at me and said, 155 00:08:09,723 --> 00:08:12,492 "You didn't know you were living with a serial killer?" 156 00:08:16,396 --> 00:08:20,009 It was probably the most disturbing interrogation 157 00:08:20,033 --> 00:08:21,701 [Pat] I've ever heard in my life. 158 00:08:26,740 --> 00:08:29,242 Gillis liked to talk about what he did 159 00:08:29,275 --> 00:08:30,944 in vivid detail. 160 00:08:35,415 --> 00:08:37,617 He really enjoyed the attention. 161 00:08:37,650 --> 00:08:40,620 Once we opened those floodgates, it was hard to shut him up. 162 00:08:53,862 --> 00:08:57,565 I' 163 00:08:58,099 --> 00:08:59,734 With a bunch of policemen around me. 164 00:08:59,768 --> 00:09:02,337 I'm wanting to know what is going on. 165 00:09:02,771 --> 00:09:05,340 And the policeman turned around and looked at me and said, 166 00:09:05,373 --> 00:09:07,493 "You didn't know you were livin with a serial killer?" 167 00:09:08,309 --> 00:09:12,480 I looked over at Sean and he shrugged his shoulders. 168 00:09:12,781 --> 00:09:15,517 And said, "Sorry, honey bunny." 169 00:09:25,226 --> 00:09:28,396 [Terri] I met Sean Gillis, working the night shift 170 00:09:28,430 --> 00:09:30,298 at a convenience store. 171 00:09:30,699 --> 00:09:33,034 One of my friends decided that we should meet 172 00:09:33,068 --> 00:09:35,203 because we had a whole lot in common. 173 00:09:35,437 --> 00:09:38,807 Same likes, dislikes, movies. 174 00:09:39,808 --> 00:09:42,844 He made me laugh too. He was a geeky guy, 175 00:09:43,678 --> 00:09:46,047 the kind you'd wanna bring home to mom. 176 00:09:47,682 --> 00:09:50,485 I basically worked most of the time. 177 00:09:51,186 --> 00:09:54,155 I went to work at night from 11:00 to 7:00. 178 00:09:54,723 --> 00:09:57,192 But Sean would always stay home 179 00:09:57,225 --> 00:10:00,061 He didn't wanna go anywhere, didn't wanna do anything. 180 00:10:00,095 --> 00:10:03,064 That makes me angry to think back. 181 00:10:04,132 --> 00:10:07,168 Sean reminded me of someone who never wanted to grow up. 182 00:10:08,403 --> 00:10:10,171 I didn't know how to feel, 183 00:10:10,605 --> 00:10:13,575 because, in a way, it made me responsible 184 00:10:13,608 --> 00:10:15,844 because I was taking care of Sean. 185 00:10:16,778 --> 00:10:18,947 It made me feel like I was giving him 186 00:10:18,980 --> 00:10:21,716 the wherewithal to do what he wanted. 187 00:10:23,885 --> 00:10:25,887 When you have a lot of time to think, 188 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:28,623 you question a lot of decisions that you made. 189 00:10:33,061 --> 00:10:35,063 And when the policeman turned around and said, 190 00:10:35,096 --> 00:10:37,999 "You didn't know you were living with a serial killer," 191 00:10:38,333 --> 00:10:39,477 I just looked at him, I said, 192 00:10:39,501 --> 00:10:42,003 "Boy, have you got the wrong house?" 193 00:10:44,506 --> 00:10:47,042 I've told that to people over and over. 194 00:10:47,742 --> 00:10:49,844 None of what they were saying made any sense. 195 00:10:49,878 --> 00:10:51,446 There was no way possible. 196 00:10:51,479 --> 00:10:53,748 Not Sean. No way. 197 00:11:07,862 --> 00:11:10,041 We said, "We absolutely have him on Katherine Hall, 198 00:11:10,065 --> 00:11:12,500 Johnnie Mae Williams, and Donna Bennett Johnston. 199 00:11:12,534 --> 00:11:14,803 "He can't deny that." 200 00:11:22,777 --> 00:11:25,146 We knew that he absolutely had more victims. 201 00:11:25,180 --> 00:11:27,782 So our interview strategy was gonna be 202 00:11:27,816 --> 00:11:29,617 we're not gonna press him real hard. 203 00:11:30,785 --> 00:11:33,755 We knew, from his prior interrogation, 204 00:11:33,788 --> 00:11:35,190 that, you know, he liked to talk. 205 00:11:57,979 --> 00:11:59,781 He just got to a point 206 00:11:59,814 --> 00:12:02,450 where he was kind of consigned to the fact 207 00:12:02,484 --> 00:12:03,785 that he was caught. 208 00:12:03,818 --> 00:12:07,288 And I said, "Why don't you tell us 209 00:12:07,322 --> 00:12:09,457 any others, Sean." 210 00:12:09,491 --> 00:12:12,093 And I remember he said, "Do you have a pencil?" 211 00:12:15,330 --> 00:12:18,867 Once we opened those floodgates, it was hard to shut him up. 212 00:12:18,900 --> 00:12:21,302 And he wanted to talk and talk and talk. 213 00:12:23,371 --> 00:12:26,274 [Max] He really enjoyed the attention. 214 00:12:26,307 --> 00:12:29,077 He identified several homicides that he had committed. 215 00:12:29,110 --> 00:12:31,579 It seemed to be important for him 216 00:12:31,613 --> 00:12:32,981 to have more bodies to his credit 217 00:12:33,081 --> 00:12:35,150 than Derrick Todd Lee. 218 00:12:43,892 --> 00:12:47,862 He knew that Derrick Todd Lee had already been arrested 219 00:12:47,896 --> 00:12:50,074 and was in the process of going to trial. 220 00:12:50,098 --> 00:12:51,833 He'd been following it. 221 00:13:04,312 --> 00:13:07,349 [music] 222 00:13:11,252 --> 00:13:13,388 [Max] In addition to the three homicides 223 00:13:13,421 --> 00:13:14,589 that we were working, 224 00:13:14,622 --> 00:13:16,458 he confessed to killing Ann Bryan, 225 00:13:16,491 --> 00:13:18,226 Joyce Williams, Marilyn Nevils, 226 00:13:18,259 --> 00:13:21,129 Hardee Schmidt, and Lillian Robinson. 227 00:13:21,162 --> 00:13:24,041 All were women who were killed in the Baton Rouge area 228 00:13:24,065 --> 00:13:27,268 in the years previous to catching him. 229 00:13:28,103 --> 00:13:30,638 [Bryan] He was very meticulous. 230 00:13:30,672 --> 00:13:33,141 He gave us names, places, 231 00:13:33,174 --> 00:13:36,053 graphic details at each scene, 232 00:13:36,077 --> 00:13:38,179 intimate details about each victim. 233 00:13:43,118 --> 00:13:45,062 The Johnnie Mae Williams case, 234 00:13:45,086 --> 00:13:47,455 he said that, one night, he and Johnnie Mae 235 00:13:47,489 --> 00:13:48,723 were riding around, 236 00:13:48,757 --> 00:13:51,197 and, you know they were doing their drugs, listening to music. 237 00:13:51,526 --> 00:13:53,928 And he said he pulled off behind a restaurant 238 00:13:53,962 --> 00:13:56,164 in the southeast part of Baton Rouge. 239 00:14:00,669 --> 00:14:01,846 He said they were just sitting there, 240 00:14:01,870 --> 00:14:02,871 listening to music, 241 00:14:02,904 --> 00:14:05,840 and he said Johnnie Mae actually fell asleep. 242 00:14:19,754 --> 00:14:21,656 He said something just took over. 243 00:14:22,123 --> 00:14:24,459 And so he said, "I just slipped it around her neck 244 00:14:24,492 --> 00:14:25,827 and killed her." 245 00:14:27,729 --> 00:14:29,130 [music] 246 00:14:29,164 --> 00:14:30,699 [Max] As soon as you can take a breath 247 00:14:30,732 --> 00:14:33,301 and realize that that's over, it's not over. 248 00:14:33,335 --> 00:14:35,046 [Reporter] Many plenty other cold cases 249 00:14:35,070 --> 00:14:36,705 that have remained unsolved. 250 00:14:36,738 --> 00:14:38,206 [Johnnie] He started choking me, 251 00:14:38,239 --> 00:14:40,675 put both of his hands on either side of my neck, 252 00:14:40,709 --> 00:14:42,110 and he just started squeezing. 253 00:14:42,143 --> 00:14:44,055 [Reporter] A suspected serial killer 254 00:14:44,079 --> 00:14:45,413 is behind bars tonight. 255 00:14:45,447 --> 00:14:49,284 I think I survived because I had a purpose. 256 00:15:00,361 --> 00:15:02,930 [Bryan] Once Sean Gillis started confessing, 257 00:15:03,030 --> 00:15:04,131 he talked and talked. 258 00:15:04,164 --> 00:15:08,869 He gave us names, places, intimate details. 259 00:15:15,209 --> 00:15:20,047 It was probably the most disturbing interrogation 260 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:22,082 I've ever heard in my life. 261 00:15:23,250 --> 00:15:24,551 With Katherine Hall's body, 262 00:15:24,585 --> 00:15:27,187 the most striking thing was the cuttings. 263 00:15:27,621 --> 00:15:30,691 He talked about when he cut Katherine Hall's leg, 264 00:15:30,724 --> 00:15:31,959 he said he cut it deep 265 00:15:32,059 --> 00:15:34,261 and he said it kind of laid open. 266 00:15:42,436 --> 00:15:46,306 He said that the moonlight had hit her bone 267 00:15:46,340 --> 00:15:49,343 and "It was so white, I just wanted to touch it." 268 00:16:05,392 --> 00:16:08,495 Sean told us that he had the perfect situation 269 00:16:08,529 --> 00:16:10,597 with his relationship with Terri. 270 00:16:11,031 --> 00:16:14,201 He would drive her to work and drop her off, 271 00:16:14,234 --> 00:16:16,203 he said, which basically gave him 272 00:16:16,236 --> 00:16:17,771 eight free hours to roam the streets, 273 00:16:17,805 --> 00:16:21,642 and he actually called it hunting, "to go hunting." 274 00:16:31,218 --> 00:16:32,820 [Reporter] Sean Gillis has confessed 275 00:16:32,853 --> 00:16:34,822 to the murder of at least eight women. 276 00:16:34,855 --> 00:16:36,766 [Reporter 2] Gillis led members of the task force 277 00:16:36,790 --> 00:16:38,292 to locations 278 00:16:38,325 --> 00:16:40,070 where he allegedly hid the bodies of his victims. 279 00:16:40,094 --> 00:16:41,628 [Terri] After going to court 280 00:16:41,662 --> 00:16:44,665 and listening to how some of the things occurred 281 00:16:45,265 --> 00:16:47,801 one thing I had found out was that 282 00:16:47,835 --> 00:16:51,572 he had dismembered one of his victims 283 00:16:51,605 --> 00:16:53,049 on the kitchen floor. 284 00:16:53,073 --> 00:16:55,476 And I made a point to go home 285 00:16:55,509 --> 00:16:58,445 and tear up my floor in the kitchen. 286 00:16:58,479 --> 00:17:02,349 And as I was pulling it up, underneath the tile, 287 00:17:02,383 --> 00:17:05,452 there was still big spots of blood. 288 00:17:08,655 --> 00:17:11,001 It made me feel guilty 289 00:17:11,025 --> 00:17:12,659 and then it made me feel angry 290 00:17:12,693 --> 00:17:14,695 because I was feeling guilty. 291 00:17:15,863 --> 00:17:18,732 And everybody told me I wasn't supposed to feel guilty. 292 00:17:20,868 --> 00:17:22,469 How can you not? 293 00:17:25,539 --> 00:17:27,741 So many people have asked me, 294 00:17:27,775 --> 00:17:30,044 "How could you not know?" 295 00:17:30,077 --> 00:17:32,279 Why would I know? 296 00:17:33,514 --> 00:17:37,785 If your husband stays gone for an odd amount of time, 297 00:17:38,318 --> 00:17:39,753 and you're gonna think he's off 298 00:17:40,120 --> 00:17:42,589 I'll say the word, actually killing someone? 299 00:17:43,357 --> 00:17:44,668 First thing you're gonna think about is, 300 00:17:44,692 --> 00:17:47,061 "Oh, he might be seeing another woman." 301 00:17:54,068 --> 00:17:56,337 This was a letter that Sean wrote to me 302 00:17:56,370 --> 00:17:59,740 right after he was arrested in 2004. 303 00:17:59,773 --> 00:18:01,608 "My dearest Terri, 304 00:18:02,242 --> 00:18:04,745 thank you so much for the last eight years. 305 00:18:04,778 --> 00:18:06,880 I wish we had 80 more. 306 00:18:06,914 --> 00:18:09,316 I have never loved a woman so much 307 00:18:09,350 --> 00:18:11,919 that each day from you seems like a year. 308 00:18:12,019 --> 00:18:16,223 The closer my time daws near, the less courage I have. 309 00:18:16,890 --> 00:18:18,926 I do not wanna die this way. 310 00:18:19,593 --> 00:18:22,363 I know there is something wrong with my brain, 311 00:18:22,396 --> 00:18:25,566 but no one gives a damn to check it out. 312 00:18:25,599 --> 00:18:28,202 Well, it's not over until it's over. 313 00:18:28,235 --> 00:18:31,438 Love you so much, Honey Bunny. Sean." 314 00:18:34,742 --> 00:18:36,243 Excuse me. 315 00:18:38,312 --> 00:18:41,048 I know I can't change anything that happened. 316 00:18:41,081 --> 00:18:43,484 I mean, I would if I could. 317 00:18:44,151 --> 00:18:46,720 Sean took away the lives of those people. 318 00:18:47,488 --> 00:18:50,257 I can't let him take away mine also. 319 00:18:58,766 --> 00:19:01,068 [Reporter] The first full day of testimony underway 320 00:19:01,101 --> 00:19:02,369 of the first-degree murder tria 321 00:19:02,403 --> 00:19:05,439 of accused serial killer Derrick Todd Lee. 322 00:19:09,777 --> 00:19:11,478 [music] 323 00:19:11,512 --> 00:19:14,381 [Ann] The trial itself was surreal. 324 00:19:15,416 --> 00:19:17,994 It's like being caught in a story that can't be true, 325 00:19:18,018 --> 00:19:19,720 but you can't get out of it. 326 00:19:20,387 --> 00:19:21,922 [Dianne] My being in the same room 327 00:19:22,022 --> 00:19:23,390 with Derrick Todd Lee 328 00:19:23,424 --> 00:19:25,001 wasn't strange for me 329 00:19:25,025 --> 00:19:26,427 because I had prayed. 330 00:19:26,460 --> 00:19:30,097 I prayed and asked God to let me face him, 331 00:19:30,130 --> 00:19:32,333 and let me look him in the eye 332 00:19:32,366 --> 00:19:35,936 so that he would know that I know 333 00:19:36,036 --> 00:19:37,871 what he had done to me. 334 00:19:39,039 --> 00:19:41,475 [Prem] God bless Dianne Alexander. 335 00:19:41,508 --> 00:19:44,345 Dianne Alexander spoke for the dead. 336 00:19:44,378 --> 00:19:48,048 She spoke for all the women who came before her 337 00:19:48,782 --> 00:19:51,418 who had lost their lives in a violent way. 338 00:19:52,052 --> 00:19:56,290 She was the voice of the dead through her life. 339 00:19:57,057 --> 00:19:58,892 [Ann] She is unflappable. 340 00:19:58,926 --> 00:20:01,996 And she identified him absolutely positively 341 00:20:02,029 --> 00:20:04,164 with no reservations, 342 00:20:04,698 --> 00:20:06,266 and that's the deal. 343 00:20:06,300 --> 00:20:08,669 She is the nail in his coffin. 344 00:20:10,170 --> 00:20:15,376 [music] 345 00:20:19,713 --> 00:20:21,849 [Ann] And when the verdict came down, 346 00:20:21,882 --> 00:20:23,283 we were so happy, 347 00:20:23,317 --> 00:20:26,420 and you get such an intense relief. 348 00:20:26,453 --> 00:20:29,423 We thought when it came back so quickly... 349 00:20:31,025 --> 00:20:32,526 I'm sorry. 350 00:20:34,528 --> 00:20:37,798 I just can't believe it's finally happened. 351 00:20:42,036 --> 00:20:43,537 I'm overwhelmed. 352 00:20:43,570 --> 00:20:47,641 [music] 353 00:20:49,209 --> 00:20:50,678 [Anchor] Authorities say Derrick Lee 354 00:20:50,711 --> 00:20:52,780 and serial killer Sean Gillis together 355 00:20:52,813 --> 00:20:54,682 have killed 15 women, 356 00:20:54,715 --> 00:20:56,917 but there are many, many other cold cases 357 00:20:56,950 --> 00:20:58,118 that have remained unsolved. 358 00:20:58,452 --> 00:21:00,030 Authorities say about 60 women 359 00:21:00,054 --> 00:21:03,057 have been murdered in and aroun Baton Rouge since 1992. 360 00:21:03,824 --> 00:21:05,359 With the trial of Derrick Todd Lee 361 00:21:05,392 --> 00:21:08,062 and the trial of Sean Vincent Gillis, 362 00:21:08,395 --> 00:21:09,806 we have two serial killers being tried 363 00:21:09,830 --> 00:21:11,832 for killing women in Baton Rouge. 364 00:21:11,865 --> 00:21:15,302 At the same time, they got homicides that's not solved yet 365 00:21:15,769 --> 00:21:17,271 [Bryan] They're both in jail now. 366 00:21:17,738 --> 00:21:20,374 There's still a lot of unsolved homicides. 367 00:21:20,407 --> 00:21:24,645 There's also more female victims popping up around town. 368 00:21:24,678 --> 00:21:27,214 We had quite a few high-risk lifestyle women 369 00:21:27,247 --> 00:21:28,682 killed in the same general area, 370 00:21:28,716 --> 00:21:31,385 Florida Edwards and also Sylvia Cobb. 371 00:21:31,418 --> 00:21:34,064 [Dana] I think that law enforcement was concerned 372 00:21:34,088 --> 00:21:37,925 that because they were both posed, both bound 373 00:21:37,958 --> 00:21:40,494 in areas that were frequented 374 00:21:40,527 --> 00:21:43,731 by drug users and prostitutes, 375 00:21:43,764 --> 00:21:47,267 that these victims may have been murdered by the same person. 376 00:21:47,935 --> 00:21:50,771 [Prem] It was incredible to even contemplate, 377 00:21:50,804 --> 00:21:55,242 but could there be a third serial killer 378 00:21:55,275 --> 00:21:57,444 here at Baton Rouge. 379 00:22:03,075 --> 00:22:06,178 [Reporter] It's been more than two years and four month 380 00:22:06,212 --> 00:22:08,247 since LSU grad student Murray Pace 381 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:09,482 was brutally murdered. 382 00:22:09,515 --> 00:22:11,293 [Reporter 2] Louisiana investigators are searching 383 00:22:11,317 --> 00:22:12,618 for more possible victims 384 00:22:12,651 --> 00:22:15,588 of alleged serial killer Derrick Todd Lee. 385 00:22:16,756 --> 00:22:19,725 In 2002, while law enforcement is investigating 386 00:22:19,759 --> 00:22:22,828 the deaths of Gina Green and Murray Pace, 387 00:22:22,862 --> 00:22:25,898 there were a lot of murders in downtown Baton Rouge, 388 00:22:25,931 --> 00:22:29,402 under somewhat different circumstances. 389 00:22:30,336 --> 00:22:32,405 I think it was just concern that, 390 00:22:32,438 --> 00:22:35,074 "Oh, we've got another dead woman here. 391 00:22:35,107 --> 00:22:36,409 I mean, what is going on?" 392 00:22:36,442 --> 00:22:38,611 And then the next one happened. 393 00:22:38,644 --> 00:22:41,814 [music] 394 00:22:45,451 --> 00:22:46,919 [Christopher] We got a phone call 395 00:22:46,952 --> 00:22:50,089 from a local resident that observed a female body 396 00:22:50,122 --> 00:22:53,592 near the south side of the old Dillard's store. 397 00:22:54,927 --> 00:22:58,297 This was the place where the body was discovered 398 00:22:58,331 --> 00:22:59,765 on that morning. 399 00:22:59,799 --> 00:23:01,834 Ten feet from the building south of the structure. 400 00:23:02,535 --> 00:23:04,503 She was in a flower bed, 401 00:23:04,537 --> 00:23:07,473 just about this area here. 402 00:23:08,307 --> 00:23:10,142 The victim is laid on her back. 403 00:23:10,543 --> 00:23:14,022 Her legs was positioned between the two smaller trees. 404 00:23:14,046 --> 00:23:15,848 Her shirt was pulled above 405 00:23:16,182 --> 00:23:17,917 her breast area near her throat. 406 00:23:19,051 --> 00:23:22,388 [Dana] She was laid out in the flower bed. 407 00:23:22,421 --> 00:23:24,490 It appeared that she had been posed. 408 00:23:25,157 --> 00:23:26,501 [Christopher] It was obvious she was strangled 409 00:23:26,525 --> 00:23:28,060 because there was blood on her T-shirt. 410 00:23:28,928 --> 00:23:31,297 It appears that the shirt that was on her body 411 00:23:31,330 --> 00:23:32,665 may have been used as a ligature 412 00:23:32,698 --> 00:23:34,834 to choke and strangle the victim. 413 00:23:36,302 --> 00:23:42,050 [music] 414 00:23:42,074 --> 00:23:44,810 [Dana] She was found in downtown Baton Rouge 415 00:23:44,844 --> 00:23:47,880 closer to where Sylvia and Florida were found. 416 00:23:47,913 --> 00:23:50,883 The three murders had several things in common. 417 00:23:50,916 --> 00:23:52,385 All three of the victims 418 00:23:52,418 --> 00:23:54,353 appeared to be sexually assaulted. 419 00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:57,957 And all three of them were in areas 420 00:23:57,990 --> 00:24:02,728 where there were drugs, prostitution, high-risk areas. 421 00:24:03,796 --> 00:24:08,300 [music] 422 00:24:08,334 --> 00:24:11,537 We processed the crime scene and the victim was identified 423 00:24:11,570 --> 00:24:13,105 as Renee Newman. 424 00:24:13,706 --> 00:24:17,176 DNA was ultimately run on the evidence found 425 00:24:17,209 --> 00:24:18,778 on Florida Edwards' body 426 00:24:18,811 --> 00:24:21,213 as well as evidence on Renee Newman's body. 427 00:24:21,247 --> 00:24:22,882 They connected those two, 428 00:24:22,915 --> 00:24:25,117 but they didn't know who the killer was. 429 00:24:25,151 --> 00:24:29,455 [music] 430 00:24:30,556 --> 00:24:32,525 [Christopher] Working as a homicide detective, 431 00:24:32,558 --> 00:24:35,361 you really wanna solve every case that you work. 432 00:24:36,062 --> 00:24:38,397 You wanna bring closure to the families. 433 00:24:39,065 --> 00:24:41,634 It takes a toll on you as an investigator. 434 00:24:42,234 --> 00:24:45,204 You always thinking about the case that you're working. 435 00:24:45,971 --> 00:24:48,808 You always thinking, "What is i I could've done different, 436 00:24:49,408 --> 00:24:51,143 what clues I may have overlooked." 437 00:25:00,553 --> 00:25:03,022 While investigating Renee Newman's homicide, 438 00:25:03,055 --> 00:25:05,624 we received a tip that maybe Sean Vincent Gillis 439 00:25:05,658 --> 00:25:06,859 may have known her. 440 00:25:08,427 --> 00:25:10,763 That prompted us to interview Sean Gillis 441 00:25:10,796 --> 00:25:12,865 relative to that investigation. 442 00:25:14,734 --> 00:25:16,435 Sean was very forthcoming 443 00:25:16,469 --> 00:25:18,337 with the previous murder investigations. 444 00:25:18,938 --> 00:25:21,741 I would actually say in the ones involving Renee Newman 445 00:25:21,774 --> 00:25:23,609 and also the ones done in Baton Rouge, 446 00:25:23,642 --> 00:25:27,046 since he was accused of killing high-risk lifestyle women. 447 00:25:37,289 --> 00:25:39,725 [Christopher] Sometimes it takes a killer to know a killer 448 00:25:39,759 --> 00:25:41,394 and Sean can shed life 449 00:25:41,427 --> 00:25:43,763 not only on himself as being a killer 450 00:25:43,796 --> 00:25:46,098 but also any additional killers that he may know. 451 00:26:10,790 --> 00:26:13,125 Sean told me that, while he was out there 452 00:26:13,159 --> 00:26:14,593 searching for a victim, 453 00:26:14,627 --> 00:26:18,030 he observed another hunter, another serial killer. 454 00:26:18,464 --> 00:26:19,432 [Bryan] He said, "I'm telling you, 455 00:26:19,465 --> 00:26:20,666 when our eyes locked, 456 00:26:20,700 --> 00:26:23,011 we both knew exactly why we were there. 457 00:26:23,035 --> 00:26:25,304 [music] 458 00:26:25,338 --> 00:26:26,806 [Christopher] Sean would not tell me 459 00:26:26,839 --> 00:26:29,017 what the other hunter looked like. 460 00:26:29,041 --> 00:26:31,043 I guess maybe they've got some kind 461 00:26:31,077 --> 00:26:33,679 of strict code of conduct 462 00:26:33,713 --> 00:26:35,915 when it comes to killers recognizing other killers 463 00:26:35,948 --> 00:26:38,050 not to divulge who the other person was. 464 00:26:39,185 --> 00:26:40,486 He refused to give that 465 00:26:40,519 --> 00:26:42,321 and that's when the interview stopped. 466 00:26:42,655 --> 00:26:45,624 [music] 467 00:26:59,338 --> 00:27:01,874 [Johnnie] I am Johnnie Martinez. 468 00:27:02,375 --> 00:27:03,843 I decided to catch my bus 469 00:27:03,876 --> 00:27:06,545 to go to the store to get me some medications. 470 00:27:07,246 --> 00:27:09,148 I get off of the bus, 471 00:27:09,181 --> 00:27:12,118 but the store is still a ways around 472 00:27:12,151 --> 00:27:14,153 from where the bus is. 473 00:27:14,186 --> 00:27:15,521 On the right-hand side, 474 00:27:15,554 --> 00:27:18,858 there's a big bush, wooded area. 475 00:27:19,892 --> 00:27:22,228 And as I'm walking down the pathway, 476 00:27:22,762 --> 00:27:25,131 I see a man coming down towards me. 477 00:27:25,164 --> 00:27:27,833 He was walking towards the bus stop. 478 00:27:27,867 --> 00:27:30,036 He said, "You have some extra change?" 479 00:27:31,737 --> 00:27:33,773 When I reached out to give it to him, 480 00:27:33,806 --> 00:27:35,141 he grabbed my wrist. 481 00:27:38,544 --> 00:27:41,514 He threw a punch, kind of dazed me a bit. 482 00:27:41,547 --> 00:27:43,025 And when I look, 483 00:27:43,049 --> 00:27:45,885 he was drawing me towards those big old woods. 484 00:27:46,752 --> 00:27:47,787 And I was helpless. 485 00:27:47,820 --> 00:27:49,055 There was nothing I could do 486 00:27:49,088 --> 00:27:51,057 to prevent him from taking me in there. 487 00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:58,040 He was a lot larger than me, real kind of big-looking guy. 488 00:27:58,064 --> 00:28:01,901 He had droopy cheeks like Droopy the dog. 489 00:28:02,001 --> 00:28:04,737 That's how I remembered him, by his cheeks. 490 00:28:05,104 --> 00:28:07,273 I determined that I would give him 491 00:28:07,306 --> 00:28:10,009 the same eye each time he went to punch me 492 00:28:10,042 --> 00:28:13,312 because I saw him with the other eye 493 00:28:13,746 --> 00:28:16,449 and I wanted to make sure that if 494 00:28:16,482 --> 00:28:18,684 I would get out of there alive, 495 00:28:18,718 --> 00:28:21,120 that I wanted to be able to identify. 496 00:28:30,296 --> 00:28:34,467 I think I survived because I had a purpose. 497 00:28:35,034 --> 00:28:37,103 God only knows what your purpose is. 498 00:28:37,136 --> 00:28:41,040 And he presents it to you at that point in your life. 499 00:28:42,441 --> 00:28:44,377 He started choking me, 500 00:28:45,044 --> 00:28:47,146 put both of his big fat hands 501 00:28:47,179 --> 00:28:50,316 on either side of my neck and he just started squeezing. 502 00:28:51,417 --> 00:28:54,887 [Dana] Johnnie decided the best way to survive 503 00:28:55,354 --> 00:28:57,723 was to tell him, 504 00:28:57,757 --> 00:28:59,659 as he tried to sexually assault her, 505 00:28:59,692 --> 00:29:00,826 that she had AIDS. 506 00:29:00,860 --> 00:29:02,128 She did not have AIDS, 507 00:29:02,161 --> 00:29:03,639 but she was hoping that would keep her 508 00:29:03,663 --> 00:29:05,331 from being sexually assaulted. 509 00:29:06,332 --> 00:29:07,976 Once he couldn't rape me, 510 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:11,170 there was not much he could do but steal my purse. 511 00:29:12,004 --> 00:29:14,640 She decided that she had a chance 512 00:29:14,674 --> 00:29:18,411 to survive if she just played dead. 513 00:29:20,246 --> 00:29:22,081 I take a little breath 514 00:29:23,883 --> 00:29:26,018 and close my eyes. 515 00:29:29,088 --> 00:29:32,024 And I feel him get off of me. 516 00:29:34,927 --> 00:29:37,096 And once he got off of me, 517 00:29:37,763 --> 00:29:40,099 I waited a few more seconds. 518 00:29:43,502 --> 00:29:45,071 And he was gone. 519 00:29:53,245 --> 00:29:55,414 [Reggie] I get a call and the call is in reference 520 00:29:55,448 --> 00:29:58,884 to someone that was beaten, possibly attempted rape, 521 00:29:58,918 --> 00:30:00,886 really in bad condition. 522 00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:02,722 And they said, "Hey, the person that's injured 523 00:30:02,755 --> 00:30:03,923 you know, 524 00:30:03,956 --> 00:30:05,133 and she says she knows you well." 525 00:30:05,157 --> 00:30:06,826 And I said, "Well, who would that be?" 526 00:30:06,859 --> 00:30:08,694 And it was Johnnie. 527 00:30:08,728 --> 00:30:10,329 And, you know, I was shocked. 528 00:30:11,063 --> 00:30:13,699 [Reggie] Johnnie worked at a fast food restaurant 529 00:30:13,733 --> 00:30:15,501 that, during our patrol hours, 530 00:30:15,534 --> 00:30:17,403 I would go over there and eat. 531 00:30:17,436 --> 00:30:20,072 And me and Johnnie became really good friends. 532 00:30:20,706 --> 00:30:22,842 [Reggie] I immediately got dressed 533 00:30:22,875 --> 00:30:24,944 and I went to the hospital. 534 00:30:26,412 --> 00:30:28,547 I can tell you this, I walked into the room 535 00:30:28,581 --> 00:30:29,958 and I stood to the back of the room. 536 00:30:29,982 --> 00:30:31,817 And when I saw her, 537 00:30:31,851 --> 00:30:34,286 pretty much, tears came from my eyes. 538 00:30:35,721 --> 00:30:38,324 [Johnnie] I had one big swollen eye 539 00:30:38,724 --> 00:30:40,793 with knots on the side of it. 540 00:30:41,260 --> 00:30:43,929 I had marks all on the side of my neck. 541 00:30:44,897 --> 00:30:46,866 I looked just like a monster. 542 00:30:46,899 --> 00:30:48,901 My friends came to visit me 543 00:30:48,934 --> 00:30:50,703 after it happened. 544 00:30:50,736 --> 00:30:51,937 They were all crying, 545 00:30:51,971 --> 00:30:53,939 and it hurt me more 546 00:30:53,973 --> 00:30:56,909 because I didn't want them to cry for me. 547 00:30:58,277 --> 00:31:00,279 [Reggie] We knew that her purse was missing. 548 00:31:01,047 --> 00:31:02,782 She said she had a debit card 549 00:31:02,815 --> 00:31:05,851 and it had, possibly, $700 or so on it. 550 00:31:05,885 --> 00:31:08,054 So we asked her to make the phone call. 551 00:31:08,821 --> 00:31:10,056 [Dana] He took her purse, 552 00:31:10,089 --> 00:31:12,034 and he went to an ATM, 553 00:31:12,058 --> 00:31:15,161 and he used her card at the ATM. 554 00:31:15,194 --> 00:31:17,963 And they have a beautiful picture of him using the card. 555 00:31:20,132 --> 00:31:22,568 So this was the break we was looking for. 556 00:31:26,439 --> 00:31:28,207 [Johnnie] I threw the picture down. 557 00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:29,975 I said, "Man, that's the guy." 558 00:31:30,843 --> 00:31:32,211 That was him. 559 00:31:32,244 --> 00:31:34,547 He said, "You sure?" I said, "I'm positive." 560 00:31:34,580 --> 00:31:37,216 Remember I told you he had droopy cheeks? 561 00:31:37,249 --> 00:31:39,418 Look at his droopy cheeks on there. 562 00:31:40,086 --> 00:31:42,355 She immediately identified the guy, 563 00:31:42,388 --> 00:31:44,223 the best feeling ever. 564 00:31:50,229 --> 00:31:54,600 [Dana] Police identified him as Jeffery Guillory 565 00:31:54,633 --> 00:31:56,602 and found that he had frequented, 566 00:31:56,635 --> 00:31:58,237 I think, a halfway house 567 00:31:58,270 --> 00:32:01,841 that was in close proximity to where she was attacked. 568 00:32:02,842 --> 00:32:06,045 We found that Guillory was from Lake Charles, 569 00:32:06,078 --> 00:32:07,646 was from a family of 10. 570 00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:09,181 He had several convictions 571 00:32:09,215 --> 00:32:11,751 including burglary and drug convictions. 572 00:32:12,685 --> 00:32:15,354 [Christopher] So our detective got a warrant for his arrest 573 00:32:15,388 --> 00:32:18,057 for that particular case with using the ATM machine 574 00:32:18,090 --> 00:32:20,726 with a stolen credit card. 575 00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:23,162 [Dana] When he was arrested 576 00:32:23,195 --> 00:32:26,165 for the attack on Johnnie Martinez, 577 00:32:26,198 --> 00:32:28,434 police took his fingerprints 578 00:32:28,467 --> 00:32:30,770 as well as his DNA. 579 00:32:30,803 --> 00:32:36,642 [music] 580 00:32:36,676 --> 00:32:41,681 [Dana] The DNA evidence that was taken from Florida Edwards 581 00:32:41,714 --> 00:32:43,182 as well as Renee Newman 582 00:32:43,215 --> 00:32:46,218 was in the system, and it was a hit. 583 00:32:47,420 --> 00:32:49,322 [Christopher] It was also able to match 584 00:32:49,355 --> 00:32:51,066 Jeffery Guillory's fingerprint 585 00:32:51,090 --> 00:32:53,659 to that of a beer can left at crime scene 586 00:32:53,693 --> 00:32:56,095 of Sylvia Cobb on North Arcadian. 587 00:32:56,696 --> 00:32:58,998 [Reporter] Jeffery Lee Guillory was charged today 588 00:32:59,098 --> 00:33:00,666 for the murders of three women, 589 00:33:00,700 --> 00:33:03,903 Florida Edwards, Sylvia Cobb, and Renee Newman. 590 00:33:04,403 --> 00:33:08,407 [music] 591 00:33:13,145 --> 00:33:14,914 [Dana] Investigators questioned him 592 00:33:14,947 --> 00:33:17,083 about Sylvia Cobb. 593 00:33:17,116 --> 00:33:18,651 They questioned him about Renee Newman 594 00:33:18,684 --> 00:33:21,187 and they questioned him about Florida Edwards. 595 00:33:24,156 --> 00:33:26,359 [Christopher] He denied knowing the females, 596 00:33:26,392 --> 00:33:28,561 but he was engaged in the conversation. 597 00:33:32,064 --> 00:33:33,108 [Christopher] I showed him eight photographs 598 00:33:33,132 --> 00:33:35,701 of the victims that was killed in that same area. 599 00:33:35,735 --> 00:33:39,071 Jeffery said he did not know any of the women. 600 00:33:39,105 --> 00:33:41,974 But he eventually said he knew Sylvia Cobb. 601 00:33:45,978 --> 00:33:48,681 The body of Sylvia Cobb was found 602 00:33:48,714 --> 00:33:52,451 in the same general area, in an abandoned house. 603 00:33:52,485 --> 00:33:56,222 This is all kind of close to downtown Baton Rouge. 604 00:33:57,256 --> 00:33:58,667 [Christopher] He knew her but he had never been 605 00:33:58,691 --> 00:34:00,860 at the house where her body was discovered. 606 00:34:01,260 --> 00:34:05,031 At times, he would smile and he was not intimidated. 607 00:34:22,148 --> 00:34:25,351 He seemed so calm and so cool. 608 00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:28,621 [Dana] He was totally unruffled. 609 00:34:29,088 --> 00:34:32,358 He just continued to deny any involvement. 610 00:34:39,298 --> 00:34:41,133 We had Jeffery DNA at a crime scene, 611 00:34:41,167 --> 00:34:43,045 so as an investigator, I'm thinking 612 00:34:43,069 --> 00:34:44,470 that he's gonna admit to what he did 613 00:34:44,503 --> 00:34:46,639 because we could prove that his DNA was there. 614 00:34:47,139 --> 00:34:48,974 I'm thinking that he's gonna man up 615 00:34:49,075 --> 00:34:52,078 and say, "I was there. I did kill the victims." 616 00:35:21,741 --> 00:35:23,509 [Christopher laughing] 617 00:35:24,677 --> 00:35:26,188 [Christopher] He never did admit to it, you know, 618 00:35:26,212 --> 00:35:28,047 so what do you get from that? 619 00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:29,682 How do you assess a person 620 00:35:29,715 --> 00:35:31,751 who don't wanna admit to the truth? 621 00:35:32,718 --> 00:35:35,588 Still, he's a killer, and I knew he was 622 00:35:35,621 --> 00:35:37,265 because of the fact that we were able to trace him 623 00:35:37,289 --> 00:35:39,158 to these three crime scenes. 624 00:35:53,606 --> 00:35:55,975 Authorities call Jeffery Lee Guillory 625 00:35:56,075 --> 00:35:57,543 a suspected serial killer, 626 00:35:57,576 --> 00:35:59,779 making him the third man accused of that title 627 00:35:59,812 --> 00:36:02,715 in the Baton Rouge area in the last 10 years. 628 00:36:02,748 --> 00:36:04,650 [Reporter] Guillory's fingerprints were found 629 00:36:04,684 --> 00:36:06,786 at the scene of Sylvia Cobb's murder 630 00:36:06,819 --> 00:36:08,220 but says DNA evidence 631 00:36:08,254 --> 00:36:10,690 links Guillory to both Newman and Edwards. 632 00:36:11,090 --> 00:36:13,225 The mother of one alleged victim 633 00:36:13,259 --> 00:36:14,760 is still in Baton Rouge tonight. 634 00:36:14,794 --> 00:36:17,563 Ora Lee Jackson, was at a loss for words 635 00:36:17,596 --> 00:36:21,033 after news of today's arrest in the death of Sylvia Cobb. 636 00:36:21,067 --> 00:36:24,236 I cried and seemed that I couldn't 637 00:36:24,270 --> 00:36:26,605 get that together, couldn't eat, couldn't sleep. 638 00:36:26,639 --> 00:36:28,774 And I said, "Well, thank you, Jesus. 639 00:36:28,808 --> 00:36:30,209 They found the killer." 640 00:36:31,110 --> 00:36:35,147 [music] 641 00:36:40,119 --> 00:36:42,355 [Dana] Johnnie Martinez came to trial 642 00:36:42,388 --> 00:36:44,623 in order to make sure 643 00:36:44,657 --> 00:36:47,960 that Jeffery Guillory would never be able 644 00:36:48,060 --> 00:36:50,796 to harm another woman. 645 00:37:01,173 --> 00:37:03,309 [Dana] Finally, we have our guy 646 00:37:03,342 --> 00:37:06,612 for these murders that occurred in 1999, 647 00:37:06,645 --> 00:37:09,749 2001, and 2002. 648 00:37:10,716 --> 00:37:12,461 [Christopher] With the arrest of Jeffery Guillory, 649 00:37:12,485 --> 00:37:14,387 now we have a third serial killer 650 00:37:14,420 --> 00:37:16,422 that's taken off the streets of Baton Rouge. 651 00:37:16,455 --> 00:37:18,758 I think that Jeffery's also responsible 652 00:37:18,791 --> 00:37:21,027 for the other homicides that took place in Baton Rouge. 653 00:37:21,427 --> 00:37:23,195 A pproximately 13 females 654 00:37:23,229 --> 00:37:25,197 with high-risk lifestyle was murdered 655 00:37:25,231 --> 00:37:26,565 in the same manner. 656 00:37:27,833 --> 00:37:30,336 I think he's also responsible for those murders as well. 657 00:37:34,407 --> 00:37:37,309 [Bryan] The arrest of serial killer Derrick Todd Lee, 658 00:37:37,343 --> 00:37:39,612 serial killer Sean Vincent Gillis, 659 00:37:39,645 --> 00:37:42,148 and serial killer Jeffery Guillory, 660 00:37:42,181 --> 00:37:44,150 all in Baton Rouge, 661 00:37:44,183 --> 00:37:46,452 all within a very short time period. 662 00:37:47,286 --> 00:37:49,288 [Dana] The whole city was relieved, 663 00:37:49,322 --> 00:37:52,591 but the amount of loss 664 00:37:52,625 --> 00:37:56,329 and the amount of sadness, it's hard. 665 00:37:57,596 --> 00:37:59,565 [Prem] There was such grief 666 00:38:00,032 --> 00:38:02,635 for the mothers of those women, 667 00:38:02,668 --> 00:38:03,836 such grief, 668 00:38:03,869 --> 00:38:08,407 that I don't think that that sorrow has ever gone away. 669 00:38:10,109 --> 00:38:11,777 [Ann] The families of the victims 670 00:38:11,811 --> 00:38:16,515 of Derrick Todd Lee was a huge support 671 00:38:16,549 --> 00:38:19,385 from sharing that common horror. 672 00:38:19,885 --> 00:38:22,321 We felt very connected. 673 00:38:22,355 --> 00:38:23,889 We weren't alone. 674 00:38:23,923 --> 00:38:25,891 We had each other. 675 00:38:30,596 --> 00:38:32,531 [music] 676 00:38:32,565 --> 00:38:36,102 [Ann] I don't want to be overcritical of the police 677 00:38:36,135 --> 00:38:40,106 because I really do think they did the best they could. 678 00:38:40,139 --> 00:38:41,307 I do think that. 679 00:38:41,340 --> 00:38:43,409 [Ann] Before AFIS, before CODIS, 680 00:38:43,442 --> 00:38:45,077 before all those systems 681 00:38:45,111 --> 00:38:47,046 kind of created a network 682 00:38:47,079 --> 00:38:48,948 for law enforcement, 683 00:38:49,048 --> 00:38:51,117 things were very isolated. 684 00:38:51,150 --> 00:38:52,318 You could commit crimes 685 00:38:52,351 --> 00:38:54,854 in two counties in the same state. 686 00:38:55,221 --> 00:38:57,289 They wouldn't connect. 687 00:39:16,375 --> 00:39:17,843 That would be the question there. 688 00:39:17,877 --> 00:39:21,180 They're dropping this name that he's a serial killer. 689 00:39:21,614 --> 00:39:24,016 None of this really makes sense. 690 00:39:26,519 --> 00:39:28,454 [Ann] They were still utterly convinced 691 00:39:28,487 --> 00:39:32,792 that Randy's ex-husband was the person who had killed her. 692 00:39:33,259 --> 00:39:34,760 [Mike] I told them 693 00:39:34,794 --> 00:39:37,830 that the whole time while you're investigating me, 694 00:39:37,863 --> 00:39:40,933 the person responsible is still out there. 695 00:39:41,033 --> 00:39:43,602 And he killed six more women after that. 696 00:39:44,036 --> 00:39:45,671 In 1998, 697 00:39:45,705 --> 00:39:49,508 they did not run Derrick Lee's DNA, 698 00:39:49,542 --> 00:39:52,478 and think how that would've changed the world. 699 00:39:52,511 --> 00:39:54,847 Why didn't you ever try to get a DNA sample? 700 00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:56,949 Had that been the perfect world of now, 701 00:39:57,049 --> 00:40:00,152 Derrick Todd Lee, he would've been caught right away. 702 00:40:00,820 --> 00:40:02,989 We wanted to get Derrick Todd Lee's DNA. 703 00:40:03,022 --> 00:40:06,125 It was early on in the DNA era 704 00:40:06,158 --> 00:40:08,461 as what DNA could do 705 00:40:08,494 --> 00:40:11,764 and never had training on DNA up to the end, 706 00:40:11,797 --> 00:40:14,633 and really never understood it, what it could do. 707 00:40:14,667 --> 00:40:17,370 I mean, I understand what fingerprints can do. 708 00:40:17,403 --> 00:40:18,971 But being a small agency, 709 00:40:19,005 --> 00:40:21,073 we didn't know a whole lot about DNA. 710 00:40:27,013 --> 00:40:28,814 It was frustrating. 711 00:40:28,848 --> 00:40:30,883 There's probably mistakes we made too, 712 00:40:30,916 --> 00:40:33,319 and like I say, throughout my years 713 00:40:33,352 --> 00:40:35,521 of working investigations 714 00:40:35,554 --> 00:40:38,691 from '94 to 2010, it taught me a lot. 715 00:40:39,058 --> 00:40:40,826 And I think more communication 716 00:40:40,860 --> 00:40:42,328 would've been better on this case, 717 00:40:42,361 --> 00:40:44,563 and maybe we could've stopped some murders. 718 00:40:47,199 --> 00:40:49,669 [music] 719 00:40:50,436 --> 00:40:53,706 [Ann] That's a thing that you can't think about too much, 720 00:40:53,739 --> 00:40:58,744 the fact that, had they run that DNA in 1998, 721 00:40:59,512 --> 00:41:02,348 that Murray, Gina, 722 00:41:02,381 --> 00:41:06,285 Pam, Carrie, Dene, 723 00:41:06,318 --> 00:41:08,354 all of them would be alive 724 00:41:08,387 --> 00:41:10,056 'cause he would've been caught. 725 00:41:10,089 --> 00:41:15,494 It's just one of those horrible turns of life. 726 00:41:19,732 --> 00:41:22,902 [music] 727 00:41:26,906 --> 00:41:28,574 [Christopher] The wounds of that time 728 00:41:28,607 --> 00:41:30,676 are still open, it's not healed yet. 729 00:41:31,844 --> 00:41:34,347 The wounds are still fresh toda 730 00:41:34,380 --> 00:41:36,349 as it was back in the '90s 731 00:41:36,382 --> 00:41:38,084 and 2000s as well. 732 00:41:39,251 --> 00:41:40,553 It still haunts the city 733 00:41:40,586 --> 00:41:43,723 because that's a dark part of our history. 734 00:41:46,459 --> 00:41:48,094 [Ann] There are so many women 735 00:41:48,127 --> 00:41:50,629 who had been murdered 736 00:41:50,663 --> 00:41:53,399 whose cases were unsolved. 737 00:41:53,432 --> 00:41:56,635 And that's one thing you think of with ours, 738 00:41:57,136 --> 00:42:01,040 that we were fortunate to know what happened, 739 00:42:01,340 --> 00:42:05,311 and to know who and what and why, 740 00:42:05,578 --> 00:42:07,780 as much as you can know why. 741 00:42:09,181 --> 00:42:10,883 [Man] Eugenie Boisfontaine. 742 00:42:11,183 --> 00:42:13,085 Dianna Williams. 743 00:42:13,119 --> 00:42:15,030 Tannis Walker. 744 00:42:15,054 --> 00:42:16,822 Patricia Harkins. 745 00:42:18,624 --> 00:42:22,261 [Dana] It's upsetting to read so many names 746 00:42:22,294 --> 00:42:23,596 of so many victims 747 00:42:23,629 --> 00:42:26,465 that were killed during that period of time. 748 00:42:27,133 --> 00:42:28,601 And it's also upsetting 749 00:42:28,634 --> 00:42:32,371 that their killer was never made answerable 750 00:42:32,405 --> 00:42:33,973 for those murders. 751 00:42:34,073 --> 00:42:36,609 It may have been Jeffery Guillory. 752 00:42:36,642 --> 00:42:39,645 It may have been Derrick Todd Lee. 753 00:42:40,079 --> 00:42:42,114 It may have been Sean Vincent Gillis, 754 00:42:42,148 --> 00:42:44,750 or it may have been somebody totally unrelated. 755 00:42:44,784 --> 00:42:47,953 But their families have even less answers 756 00:42:48,321 --> 00:42:51,157 and have never received justice. 757 00:42:55,161 --> 00:42:57,229 [music] 60376

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