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MUSIC: Another Green World
by Brian Eno
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LOUD ROARING
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INSTRUMENTS PLAY DISCORDANTLY
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INDISTINCT SPEECH
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And seven. Ah, br... 200...
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TAPE RECORDING REWINDS
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DISTORTED
ALTERNATELY PANNED SPEECH
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ATMOSPHERIC MUSIC
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SUSTAINED BEEP
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Ten, nine, eight, seven,
six, five, four, three.
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This is one of my uni...universal
mixes, generally useful.
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You may have some of this later.
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OK. Coming up...
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Egypt, lot one.
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The same sync points as before,
at 230 feet,
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when the sun started to emerge
from the pyramid.
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We can, if we like, go to these
the sound generators here,
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electronic generators,
and we'll listen to three
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of the basic electronic sounds.
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First is the simplest sound of all,
which is a sine wave.
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SINE WAVE PLAYS
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As you see on the oscilloscope,
it has a very simple form
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and has a very pure sound.
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I once said Delia's a bit
like a diamond - it depends
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how you shine the light
through it
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and you get all sorts
of different Delias.
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Oh, she was sparkling and wonderful,
great, terrific fun.
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Her great joy was sound.
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She'd always talk about somebody
having a wonderful pair of ears,
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which means
they could appreciate sound.
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She's fascinating, cos she had
all this magic up her sleeve
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and she was doing it as
a regular job.
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Who was Delia Derbyshire for me?
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I think she was a friend,
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a very talented composer.
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Also very curious
about other people.
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But a tormented soul.
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You know, she had lots
of problems, unfortunately.
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You know, she was always
calculating stuff
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and she carried around reams
and reams of paper.
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Usually in a large shopping basket,
with a bottle.
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A more complex sound still
is white noise.
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We call it white because it contains
all sound frequencies
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in the same way as white light
contains all frequencies.
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WHITE NOISE PLAYS
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ATMOSPHERIC ELECTRONIC MUSIC PLAYS
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RADIO REPORTER: Now, we actually
have some sad news.
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The death has just been announced
of Delia Derbyshire,
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a pioneer of electronic music
in Britain
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and a prime mover in
the BBC's Radiophonic Workshop.
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She went on to influence many famous
musicians and composers
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around the world, but will probably
be best known for TV's most famous
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them tune - Doctor Who.
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It's come to me, but just
relevantly recently,
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that my love for abstract sounds
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were the sounds of the air raid
sirens.
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Because that is a sound you hear and
you don't know the source of it
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as a child.
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SIRENS BLARE, EXPLOSIONS
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And then the sound of
the all-clear...
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SHE IMITATES SIREN
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..that was electronic music.
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Seven feet is the beginning
of the dissolve into the tunnel.
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ATMOSPHERIC ELECTRONIC MUSIC PLAYS
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METAL CLANKING
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CLANKING
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Just think, Delia Derbyshire,
me, Cosey Fanni Tutti,
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spending our lives immersed
in music and art.
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I'm so drawn to Delia. There's
connections I hadn't expected.
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It'd be wonderful to leave Delia
and know that she could collect
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a point of contact
across the dimensions.
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The feel of the place makes me
speculate about the possibility
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of residual sounds being
held in the concrete,
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trace elements of life.
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ELECTRICITY BUZZES
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Musique concrete,
sourced from concrete.
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BICYCLE CLICKS
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I wonder how,
from what we leave behind,
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do expect people to have
any understanding
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of who we really are or the reasons
behind our life choices.
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MUSIC: Mattachin
by Delia Derbyshire
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RADIO PRESENTER: Back in the days
when that was recorded,
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it was a completely
different process.
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And that track you've just
listened to just now was Mattachin,
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put together at the BBC Radiophonic
Workshop back in the early '60s
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by Delia Derbyshire.
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Some time since you heard
that track, I guess?
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DELIA: Yes, since 1968, I think!
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THEY LAUGH
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I'm tickled pink by it!
It's charming, isn't it?
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I think that what you achieved
in the Radiophonic Workshop
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is something that maybe
we should define slightly for people
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listening to the programme who
maybe don't realise the processes
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that actually went into making
that kind of music...
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Freedom of the spirit.
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The gateway to
the next phase of life.
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A doorway into a new life.
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AMBIENT ELECTRONIC MUSIC PLAYS
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Perhaps I have a very strange mind,
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because I analyse everything -
not just music.
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I'm drawn so deep
into Delia's story.
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It's like a map of her life
through sound, or a coded message.
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There are so many subtleties
in the human voice.
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I think I've found the language
of a shared experience.
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Even when I'm listening to the news,
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I note every inflection,
every comma.
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I suppose, in a way, I was
experimenting in psychoacoustics.
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DISTORTED VOICE SOUNDS PLAY
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I came from...
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..well, I think what
they'd like to call
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the upper-working class
Catholic background.
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Catholic, Roman Catholic...
in Coventry.
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Delia! You're not going to throw
things out, but
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you're going to have to take them
straight back to Cambridge with you.
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I am.
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No, you're not. Yes, I am.
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Don't make me come up those stairs!
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I won't. How can I MAKE you come
up on the stairs?
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SHE PLAYS GYMNOPEDIE BY ERIK SATIE
ON HARPSICHORD
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RADIO TUNES
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MALE PRESENTER: The BBC presents
Private Dreams
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and Public Nightmares,
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a radiophonic poem
by Frederick Bradnum.
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The programme is introduced
by the producer Donald McWhinnie.
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This programme is an experiment,
an exploration.
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It's been put together
with enormous enthusiasm
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and equipment designed
for other purposes.
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It's not a masterpiece,
not even a minor one.
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And it's not a stunt.
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We think it's worth broadcasting
as a perfectly serious first attempt
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to find out whether we can convey
a new kind of emotional
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and intellectual experience by means
of what we call radiophonic effects.
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By radiophonic effects,
we mean something
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very near to what the French have
labelled musique concrete.
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The basis of it is an unlimited
supply of magnetic tape... Delia?
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..recording machine, razorblade...
Yes, just organising things!
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..and something to stick the bits
together with.
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And a group of technicians who think
nothing is too much trouble
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provided it works.
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You take a sound, any sound,
record it
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and then change its nature.
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A sort of modern magic.
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SHE SNIFFS
Hello.
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..they've been exploiting
it on the Continent for years,
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but strangely enough,
we've held it aloof.
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Partly from distrust,
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is it simply a new toy?
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Some musicians believe
that it can become an art form
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complete in itself.
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One thought does occur from time
to time, not entirely frivolously -
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would it not be more illuminating
to play the whole thing backwards?
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Oh, the radio, the radio, the radio
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was the most important thing
in my life.
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And music, music, music.
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I was told in no uncertain terms
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that the BBC does
not employ composers.
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And, so, it was only by gradually
sort of infiltrating the system
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that I managed to do music.
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I think you'd call that music,
wouldn't you?
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EXPERIMENTAL ELECTRONIC MUSIC PLAYS
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Well, what I'm really interested
in is sound.
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Sound? Yes.
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The sound of what?
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Well, I'm interested in sound.
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Music and acoustics.
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I see, Miss Derbyshire. You'd like
to combine your interest
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in mathematics with your interest
in music.
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Yes.
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As a career choice?
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Well, music is just an expression
of mathematics.
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It's an idea that was established
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way back in the 6th century
by Pythagoras.
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Yes, dear. But this is a careers
office - not ancient Greece.
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Do you see?
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Have you considered a career
in deaf aids, Miss Derbyshire?
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No, Mr Thompson.
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Have you?
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Angela! Tea!
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Christ alive.
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And you are?
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Delia. Delia Derbyshire.
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And where are you from? Coventry.
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Not much of it left, is there?
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Well... Totally decimated,
wasn't it?
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Yeah.
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Cambridge - ah!
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Girton.
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HE LAUGHS
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Good old Girton College.
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It's rather good, isn't it? Hm?
For girls.
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I studied music -
and mathematics too.
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Unusual. But do go on.
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Well, my interest is in sound
and acoustics.
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I'm also a musician.
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I play the piano and violin,
double bass,
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and I'd very much like to work
as a sound recordist,
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or, well, possibly a music balancer.
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Ah, yes. I'll have to stop
you there, Miss Derbyshire.
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Decca Records does not employ women
in its recording studios
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or any of its technical departments.
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Never has, probably never will.
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I see.
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And why would that be?
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Those are the house rules.
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I'm not paid to question them,
Miss Derbyshire -
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only to observe them.
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However, we do have posts for women
in our administration department
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and there may well be
a secretarial position available
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at the end of the month.
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Cheerio!
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Toodle-oo!
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He was probably the man
who turned down the Beatles.
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BLEEPS PLAY
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And this comes back to something
else I'd like to stress.
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You see, there's that sexist
thing again.
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One director came into the workshop,
said to me,
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"Oh, you must be
an ardent feminist."
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But I think I was a post-feminist
before feminism was even invented.
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I'd prefer to describe myself...
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..as an individualist.
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DISTORTED: An individualist.
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That's me.
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Golly, I realise that now.
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DISTORTED SPEECH CONTINUES
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DISTORTED: An individualist.
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An individualist.
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FADES: An individualist.
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And, so, I went to Geneva
to teach English,
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and that's when I started bombarding
the BBC with endless applications.
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And I finally ended up with
a three-month placement
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as a studio manager.
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I'm told you have
extraordinary powers.
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Oh, really?
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CHUCKLES: Yes.
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The fellows on Record Review
are little in awe.
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They tell me you can find a piece
of music on an LP
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just by looking at it.
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How? Magic.
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Hm, yes. Witchcraft was mentioned.
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I simply hold the disc up
to the light
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and look for where the groove
modulations
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break up the light the most.
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Trombones and strings are
particularly easy to spot.
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Mr Harper, could I please have
a placement
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at the Radiophonic Workshop
at Maida Vale?
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Are you mad?
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No, I'm neither mad nor a witch.
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I'm just fascinated by what they do
in there
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and I'd like to work
with tape manipulation.
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I must warn you,
nobody's ever requested to join
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that department before.
252
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People are normally sent
there unwillingly.
253
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Like to Coventry, as a punishment?
254
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Yes, in some cases.
255
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It's a... It's a very
particular environment
256
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that we're not sure is
altogether, er, healthy.
257
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May I ask you why?
258
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I'd like to create sounds
that have never existed
259
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in the world before and I'm not sure
where else to do it, Mr Harper.
260
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I'll call down.
261
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She joined about two months
before I did.
262
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It was around about Christmas time,
263
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cos you were only allowed to stay
for three months
264
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in case you went mad.
265
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I think it was a doctor friend
of one of the engineers
266
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who said that it could cause
psychological problems,
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being exposed to all these
strange noises.
268
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MUSIC: Time Beat
by Ray Cathode
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Michael, the producer,
was in yesterday,
270
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but I told him not to bother today.
271
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Help me with the screen,
would you, please?
272
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Lovely.
273
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HE WOLF WHISTLES
Oh! Ignore him.
274
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Set up a mic, would you, Delia?
275
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Yeah. Just about here? Uh-huh.
276
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I was doing this yesterday.
277
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After trying a couple
of different methods,
278
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it was by far the best sound
for what we needed.
279
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Yet Michael, the producer,
kept laughing at me.
280
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In the end, I said, "If I spot
you laughing at me one more time,
281
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"I'm going home."
And he did, so I left.
282
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Quite right. Shall I? Mm.
283
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ROCKS CRUNCH AND GRIND
284
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That's beautiful.
Well, it's music, isn't it?
285
00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:07,080
Oh... Shh, shh. Why...?
286
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It's forbidden, the word.
287
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What word? The M word.
288
00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:15,160
So, what are you supposed to be
making in here, then?
289
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Special sounds. Oh, gosh.
290
00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:20,440
As we're seen by some of the music
department as charlatans
291
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using sound technology to disguise
our lack of musical ability.
292
00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:27,720
Well, I see. So the musical
integrity of the nation is at stake?
293
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So, if you're not musicians,
294
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what are you being asked to call
yourselves?
295
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Sound assistants,
studio technicians.
296
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If a sound isn't notable,
then it's not music -
297
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that's the thinking.
298
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But it's the abstract sound
that's organised.
299
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That's music, isn't it -
abstract music?
300
00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:53,640
ABSTRACT SOUNDS PAN QUICKLY
301
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We have also sound houses
where we practise
302
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and demonstrate all sounds
and their generation.
303
00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:03,800
We have harmonies,
which you have not,
304
00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:06,840
of quarter-sounds
and lesser slides of sounds.
305
00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:08,840
KNOCKING
Hello?
306
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Brian. Remember me? Yes, of course.
Delia. Delia...
307
00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:14,480
Yes, of course I remember,
the induction week.
308
00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:17,280
Sorry, I was engrossed.
309
00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:19,760
Have you been posted here,
as it were?
310
00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:22,840
Well, yeah. Uh... A long story,
but, yes, yes, in a way.
311
00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:26,600
This is extraordinary, isn't it?
312
00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:28,360
It's 1620
313
00:21:28,360 --> 00:21:31,040
and he's talking about reverberation
and delays.
314
00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:34,840
Look - "artificial echoes,
reflecting the voice many times".
315
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Mm, mm.
316
00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:38,480
It's incredible, yes.
317
00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:41,360
Look - "sounds in trunks
and pipes".
318
00:21:41,360 --> 00:21:44,640
Sounds like microphone leads,
do you think? Mm.
319
00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:46,160
"In strange lines and distances".
320
00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:48,280
Well, that could be broadcasting.
321
00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:51,000
It's Francis Bacon's vision for
a utopian society
322
00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:52,520
called New Atlantis.
323
00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:54,600
Apparently, Daphne Oram
put this up the day
324
00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:57,400
the workshop opened in 1958.
325
00:21:57,400 --> 00:22:01,400
She said that Bacon's premonition
had inspired her to persuade the BBC
326
00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:04,480
they needed to create a space
to experiment with sound.
327
00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:06,480
Of course, if we were in France
or Germany...
328
00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:08,960
Oh, they'd have given up an entire
department to it. Yeah! Yes.
329
00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:12,800
It's curious, isn't it, how
terrified people are of this place,
330
00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:16,440
like it might be the root of some
hideous Continental sound invasion.
331
00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:20,760
Do we have to whisper?
Possibly, yes.
332
00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:22,320
They don't want composers making...
333
00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:23,560
WHISPERS: ..music...
334
00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:25,440
..in here, apparently.
335
00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:27,600
Look, look.
336
00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:29,360
This is magnificent.
337
00:22:29,360 --> 00:22:32,120
I know. Look.
338
00:22:32,120 --> 00:22:33,960
It's the Crystal Palace.
339
00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:37,600
Oh, look - and this 1887 harmonium
with mouse-proof pedals.
340
00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:39,680
See, look. "Mouse-proof"!
341
00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:41,720
THEY CHUCKLE
Super.
342
00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:44,560
It's a good job, as they're plagued
with mice in here, I believe.
343
00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:46,800
But do you think they can read?
Well, some of them.
344
00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:50,200
But they're usually the ones that
cause the most trouble, aren't they?
345
00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:51,400
At least, in my experience.
346
00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:54,600
OBJECT CLATTERS
Oh, dear! Sorry! Sorry.
347
00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:56,600
Christ! What the blazes...?
348
00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:58,720
Desmond, so sorry.
349
00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:00,600
This is, um...Brian. Hello.
350
00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:02,760
Yes, I was going to introduce
myself. Brian.
351
00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:05,080
Well, you've certainly made
an impression already.
352
00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:07,760
Where's your tie, man? Well, I
prefer to wear a cravat, actually.
353
00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:12,160
Hodgson, isn't it?
Yes, that's right, sir.
354
00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:15,120
Yes. Well, I've heard
all about you from Bumps.
355
00:23:15,120 --> 00:23:17,800
But if you're to secure your
reputation as a snappy dresser,
356
00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:19,680
Brian, perhaps you should
concentrate on
357
00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:21,680
your professional reputation first.
358
00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:29,680
Yes. I'm sorry. Sorry.
359
00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:31,480
Shall we help you?
360
00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:33,920
BOTTLES CLATTER
There we go!
361
00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:37,880
When I first came here,
I was expecting to find
362
00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:41,960
beautiful chromium-faced equipment
and everybody wearing white coats.
363
00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:45,360
And, in fact, I found
the tattiest studio,
364
00:23:45,360 --> 00:23:49,120
all full of virtually redundant
antique equipment.
365
00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:56,440
Interesting stuff?
366
00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:58,080
SHE CHUCKLES LIGHTLY
367
00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:00,320
Well, potentially,
but it's full of mistakes.
368
00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:01,720
Do you see?
369
00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:04,760
No.
370
00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:09,840
Well, they've not allowed
for the Pythagorean comma,
371
00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:11,280
so, all these scales are wrong.
372
00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:13,160
Hm, oh...
373
00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:17,120
And it's the reason why
a Pythagorean 12-pointed star
374
00:24:17,120 --> 00:24:19,560
will never close on one side,
because there ought
375
00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:22,640
to be a discrepancy between
the 12 justly tuned perfect fifths.
376
00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:25,280
Oh. Would you mind
if I corrected it?
377
00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:27,880
Oh, well, as I've never seen anyone
so much as look it,
378
00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:29,240
you do what you need to.
379
00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:31,520
I really ought to.
It's a beautiful progression.
380
00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:34,040
But, then, I suppose, if you're
using two-dimensional models
381
00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:35,680
to explain four-dimensional
concepts,
382
00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:38,720
you will end up with weird
harmonics eventually.
383
00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:42,320
Well, you can be our very own
enchantress of numbers.
384
00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:47,720
I'm a mathematician, Desmond.
385
00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:51,040
Right.
386
00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:57,880
DELIA VOICEOVER: I think I've always
been a very independent thinker,
387
00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:02,920
but I must say that I...I go back
to first principles.
388
00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:07,320
When it comes to the music,
I go back to the Greeks
389
00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:09,640
and the original...
390
00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:12,640
..well, the simple harmonic series.
391
00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:16,240
I think that's a very healthy thing
to do for anyone.
392
00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:33,760
It is 0830 hours,
September the 14th, 1988.
393
00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:36,720
These are children of our time.
394
00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:38,600
They should live to be 100.
395
00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:40,920
They may colonise the stars.
396
00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:44,680
They will not toil,
they need never be unhappy.
397
00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:49,000
But, this morning, as every morning,
there is a problem -
398
00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:54,120
how to spend a golden lifetime,
what to do with so much time.
399
00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:02,800
From this September morning in 1988,
400
00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:05,120
look back across
a quarter of a century.
401
00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:10,720
We really make the use of computers
rather than the human brain
402
00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:13,720
for the control of processes
and systems.
403
00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:17,560
The new cybernetic machines
go one step further.
404
00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:20,640
In fact, they simulate
the human brain.
405
00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:22,800
That's what the word
cybernation means.
406
00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:24,520
RECORDING STOPS
407
00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:31,400
DISTORTED SLOW TEMPO: Cybernetic
machines...
408
00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:34,240
So, how's 1988 sounding?
409
00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:37,640
Like a very bad dream.
410
00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:43,960
We also have a new commission.
411
00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:50,920
So, Structures Sonores from Paris.
412
00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:53,560
Well, Verity Lambert
can't afford them,
413
00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:56,080
but she would like us
to sound like them.
414
00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:58,440
They have glass rod set in steel,
415
00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:00,280
a massive grant
from their government
416
00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:05,160
and a 20-paid ensemble of musicians.
417
00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:08,080
There are five of us
being paid peanuts.
418
00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:10,320
We use square and sine wave
generators
419
00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:13,320
and are mostly interested
in dissecting white noise.
420
00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:19,480
Hm. She would like it to sound
familiar, but different.
421
00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:23,960
Yes. We've been given a scrap of
manuscript from the composer
422
00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:27,480
Ron Grainer, with a few bars
scribbled on there
423
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:30,200
with a melody and a bass line.
424
00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:31,360
Yes?
425
00:27:31,360 --> 00:27:35,280
And a mood description
of "wind, bubbles and clouds".
426
00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:37,840
Yes. Interesting.
427
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:41,720
It's for a drama about
a time-travelling doctor.
428
00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:43,600
But, of course, they're doing
it on the cheap
429
00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:47,600
and, not very surprisingly,,
that's where we come in.
430
00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:50,640
They want us to prove we are
as capable of tunefulness
431
00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:52,720
as uncanniness.
432
00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:54,360
Christ. Uff...
433
00:27:54,360 --> 00:27:57,400
And, as you all know, we are
inundated at the moment.
434
00:27:57,400 --> 00:28:01,000
Does anyone in this room
have any idea how to do this?
435
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:03,560
Well... Hm? Yes?
436
00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:05,440
How? Um...
437
00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:11,760
SHE PLAYS MELODY ON
LOOSLY STRINGED INSTRUMENTS
438
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:25,200
Ah...
439
00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:28,880
Listen to this.
440
00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:32,680
SHE PLAYS MELODY ON
LOOSLY STRINGED INSTRUMENTS
441
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:36,360
Something like that.
442
00:28:36,360 --> 00:28:38,120
That's what he's written.
443
00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:40,920
I think we can do something
with that.
444
00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:42,480
This is very impressive.
445
00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:45,160
You know, I think most of what I've
ever needed to know about anything
446
00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:47,480
at all has come from that book. Huh?
447
00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:49,520
That's quite a claim.
448
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:53,400
I'm translating notes on the page
into cycles per second,
449
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:56,240
and then I'm going to translate
the duration of notes
450
00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:57,880
into inches of tape.
451
00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:00,760
That's why I have this and this.
452
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:03,040
And this. I wondered why you were
was so engrossed
453
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:05,000
in the BBC Tennis Club newsletters.
454
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:08,240
Was I? You are aware that these are
the as yet undistributed
455
00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:11,000
June editions and that Maddelena
is the club chair?
456
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:13,960
It's a good job
she likes me, then.
457
00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:17,640
Well, not any more, love.
No, no, no, that is naughty.
458
00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:19,720
Don't tell her.
459
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:23,440
PLAYS DOCTOR WHO THEME
460
00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:25,600
HE WAILS
461
00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:27,200
Something like that?
462
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:31,600
LAUGHTER
463
00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:36,440
DELIA VOICEOVER: Ron wrote the score
with abstract things on,
464
00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:39,640
like "wind clouds" and "sweeps"
465
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:46,000
and "swoops" and "wind bubble,"
all sort of beautiful descriptions
466
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:49,080
but with a carefully
worked-out rhythm.
467
00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:53,080
And so I got to work
and put it all together.
468
00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:56,800
So, are we all set?
Yes, just about there. OK.
469
00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:59,640
Bass, bass, melody, details.
You're on bass.
470
00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:01,560
I'll do melody and details. OK?
471
00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:04,560
This will work.
472
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:10,560
Three, two, one.
473
00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:13,760
DOCTOR WHO THEME
474
00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:17,320
WHOOSHES
475
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:27,040
WAILS
476
00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:32,760
It was a magic experience because I
couldn't see from the music
477
00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:37,440
how it was going to sound and it was
just Ron's brilliant aural
478
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:40,560
imagination because when he heard
the results,
479
00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:42,600
oh, he was really tickled pink!
480
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:50,040
SNEEZES AND COUGHS
481
00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:53,280
She had this almost
permanent state of sniffles.
482
00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:57,240
This old man said, "You've got
a very bad cold, my dear."
483
00:30:57,240 --> 00:31:00,800
And she said, "No, no, I've got
vasomotor rhinitis."
484
00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:02,640
And he said, "You should try some of
this,"
485
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:04,120
and he gave her a pinch of snuff.
486
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:05,400
SNEEZES
487
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:08,840
Which immediately cleared her head.
488
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:13,600
She didn't realise at that point
it's one of the most addictive
489
00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:16,800
substances you can ever
let go up your nose.
490
00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:21,240
And that became her recurrent habit.
491
00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:28,440
Knock knock. Who's there?
Doctor. Doctor who?
492
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:31,720
Airs tomorrow between
Grandstand and Juke Box Jury.
493
00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:33,760
That's still not a punch line!
494
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:37,000
BOTH SIGH
495
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:38,440
GUNSHOT
496
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:41,360
Hello, Leonard. Hello, yes.
497
00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:43,600
Yes, OK, go ahead, then. Righto.
498
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:46,080
Well, as long as you realise all
I've got in front of me is a pile
499
00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:48,560
of tape, which I'm just ripping
off the printer, which you can
500
00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:51,160
probably hear in the background now.
Hello, London.
501
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:55,040
This is Leonard Parkin calling radio
newsreel from Washington.
502
00:31:55,040 --> 00:32:00,000
President Kennedy and Governor John
Connally of Texas were shot today
503
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:03,880
from an ambush as President
Kennedy's motorcade left the centre
504
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:06,480
of Dallas,
where the President went on...
505
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:14,280
DOCTOR WHO THEME PLAYS
506
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:46,920
Let me read it to you.
507
00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:53,320
"Verity's new sound is way out.
Verity Lambert walked
508
00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:56,760
"into the workshop and said, 'I want
a new sound that is way out
509
00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:59,880
"'and catchy.'" Mm, a version of
events.
510
00:32:59,880 --> 00:33:04,680
"Mr Briscoe and his team looked
over the notes and went to work
511
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:08,000
"without using a single musician
or musical instrument.
512
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:12,000
"They did it all with electronics,
and this is the first time
513
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:16,040
"that electronics has been used
to produce a recognisable tune."
514
00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:18,640
It sounds as if they think
the tune's been manifested
515
00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:20,480
by some kind of radiophonic alien.
516
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:26,200
Ron was so sweet, he said to me,
"You should be getting half
517
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:29,840
"of my royalties." We can't claim
individual authorship, can we?
518
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:31,560
We're just seen as technicians.
519
00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:33,840
Do your job and know your place,
my dear.
520
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:35,360
It's bloody appalling.
521
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:39,920
SHE SIGHS
522
00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:46,040
I feel like I'm traversing time,
tapping into frequencies
523
00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:51,200
as I'm making sound from fragments
of Delia's life, from her music
524
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:54,160
and her voice, her words.
525
00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:56,560
In many ways,
our lives are a reflection
526
00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:59,920
of each other's, our determination
to be heard
527
00:33:59,920 --> 00:34:02,200
and our seeking the unheard.
528
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:06,000
Our vision of sound
as an image or a feeling...
529
00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:11,240
..and the excitement of discovery
and redrawing rules.
530
00:34:11,240 --> 00:34:15,400
When I was doing the inventions with
Barry Bermange, he wanted sounds
531
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:18,440
which would sound like
a Gothic altarpiece.
532
00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:20,880
He said, "Oh, give me a pencil
and paper."
533
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:22,240
I did.
534
00:34:22,240 --> 00:34:24,960
And, with great care and
elaboration,
535
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:30,040
he drew me a beautiful Gothic
altarpiece and said,
536
00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:32,400
"That's the sort of sound I want."
537
00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:35,920
The Afterlife,
an Invention For Radio.
538
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:39,560
All the voices
were recorded from life and arranged
539
00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:44,920
in a setting of pure electronic
sound in five movements.
540
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:50,040
Light, light.
541
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:51,480
ECHOES
542
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:58,200
Everywhere is light, light.
543
00:34:58,200 --> 00:34:59,920
"LIGHT" ECHOES
544
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:07,360
The vastness of space, space.
545
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:09,160
"SPACE" ECHOES
546
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:15,040
It's so clear, clear.
547
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:17,480
"CLEAR" ECHOES
548
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:29,080
Green fields.
549
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:33,280
Valleys.
550
00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:37,800
Clear running water.
551
00:35:41,720 --> 00:35:44,760
It's so clear. Clear.
552
00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:53,280
My most beautiful sound at that time
553
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:55,720
was made by a tatty old BBC
lampshade
554
00:35:55,720 --> 00:35:58,000
I found lying around the studio,
555
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:01,560
but it had the most beautiful
ringing sound to it.
556
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:03,800
LOW RINGING
557
00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:10,840
ECHOES
558
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:17,960
Like joining forces,
an exchange between us.
559
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:23,480
This was a documentary
560
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:28,800
programme about the Tuareg tribe,
561
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:31,040
the Tuareg tribe of nomads
562
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:33,360
in the Sahara Desert.
563
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:39,040
I tried to convey the distance
of the horizon and the heat haze.
564
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:41,200
ATMOSPHERIC MUSIC
565
00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:52,360
There's this very high, slow,
reedy sound.
566
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:55,960
That indicates, like, this strand
567
00:36:55,960 --> 00:37:00,440
of camels seen at a distance,
wandering across the desert.
568
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:06,920
That in fact was made from square
waves put through every filter
569
00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:11,800
I could possibly find to take out
all the bass frequencies.
570
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:13,800
Four - the castrated oboe.
571
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:18,440
# Ahhhh. #
572
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:20,040
RECORDED AND DISTORTED: Ahhhh.
573
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:26,760
PLAYS DISTORTED VERSIONS
574
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:38,320
OBOE SOUND
575
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:48,120
CONTINUES
576
00:38:04,240 --> 00:38:06,480
SOFTER ELEMENT
577
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:19,360
AMBIENT MUSIC
578
00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:28,440
So the camels rode off into
the sunset with my voice
579
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:32,680
in their hooves and green
lampshades on their backs.
580
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:35,200
It has to be something
out of this world.
581
00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:51,040
Most of the programmes that I did
582
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:54,360
were either in
the far distant future,
583
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:57,440
the far distant past,
or in the mind.
584
00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:00,400
I think this was
a science fiction play
585
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:02,760
called The Prophet.
586
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:05,520
It ended up with all these robots
587
00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:08,040
and they sang a song of praise
588
00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:11,720
to this bloke,
presumably The Prophet.
589
00:39:11,720 --> 00:39:14,320
And this was the song they sang.
590
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:17,440
It is difficult to pronounce
because it's made
591
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:19,520
from backwards chanting.
592
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:24,080
I think if you play it forwards,
it would say something like
593
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:26,120
"Praise to the master...
594
00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:28,360
"..his wisdom
and his reason."
595
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:30,520
Ooh, ooh, ooh... Uh-huh.
596
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:39,600
Praise to the master,
his wisdom and his reason.
597
00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:42,880
Ooh, ooh...
598
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:44,040
What?
599
00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:46,240
"Ooh". It's a bit...
Could you...? No.
600
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:50,880
I did train as an actor
I know what I'm doing. Yes, I know.
601
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:53,400
So you keep telling me,
let's move on.
602
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:55,160
There is a God, there must be a God.
603
00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:56,840
You certainly didn't, did you?
604
00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:59,640
You're so mean.
Have a go at that one.
605
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:07,600
There is a God, there must be a God,
there must be a God, there is a God.
606
00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:11,680
Ooh, ooh, ooh...
607
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:13,880
Great.
608
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:19,040
OK?
609
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:23,640
And now we're going to rewind.
610
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:26,400
Ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh...
611
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:29,680
DISTORTED BACKWARDS
612
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:33,040
Didn't you have a deadline tomorrow
morning? You know my deadlines
613
00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:34,680
are always tomorrow morning,
614
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:37,320
and the closer they get,
the more I find better things to do.
615
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:40,600
I think I suffer from a kind
of reverse adrenaline.
616
00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:44,560
But we're not flying our own kites,
are we, darling?
617
00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:47,800
We spring into action for when
the department needs a tune.
618
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:52,680
Let's get a drink.
619
00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:55,040
Another one?
620
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:57,840
VOICEOVER: Well, as far as I
remember, it was like this -
621
00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:00,880
I had a very complicated studio
622
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:05,280
and definitely wanted
to make the studio better.
623
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:07,880
And at this time, I'd heard of,
624
00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:12,160
I'd heard of the Radiophonic
Workshop, but I'd never been there.
625
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:16,040
And, then, one day,
Brian and Delia came to see me.
626
00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:18,160
I think they just knocked
on the door at Putney.
627
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:21,720
They said, "What about joining
forces
628
00:41:21,720 --> 00:41:24,520
"and making commercial music?
629
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:30,760
"To make money." And I thought
this was...this was rather amazing,
630
00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:33,600
that Radiophonic Workshop
should come to me.
631
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:38,800
I hadn't at that stage realised
that what they were proposing was
632
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:42,080
not part of the Radiophonic
Workshop, but something different.
633
00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:46,320
Peter had met Delia
and she involved me.
634
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:50,520
And that's when we started
Unit Delta Plus.
635
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:55,080
He was very, naturally, as everybody
was, impressed by her.
636
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:59,520
Well, it gives her a range
of facilities that weren't available
637
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:04,160
to us. And a studio to work in,
where we could sort of
638
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:05,840
not feel entrapped.
639
00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:10,120
Peter Zinovieff was doing
the most interesting things.
640
00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:12,320
He didn't claim to be a musician.
641
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:14,720
He didn't claim to be a composer.
642
00:42:14,720 --> 00:42:18,440
But imagine one of those beautiful
London townhouses.
643
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:22,120
The drawing room on the first floor
was totally crammed with telephone
644
00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:25,760
relay equipment, where he was
working on his random sequences.
645
00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:30,000
And I thought, "Golly, this is
the way things should go."
646
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:33,160
That was a beautifully
interesting time.
647
00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:35,360
Everything was mechanical.
648
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:38,960
It was all part of a very fertile
sort of area,
649
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:42,320
a wonderful sort of creative time.
650
00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:44,600
Things were happening
all over London.
651
00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:47,320
Units were the most popular thing.
652
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:53,520
And then the Delta was for Delia,
really, plus Peter and me.
653
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:57,320
So, we gave this concert
and I don't know
654
00:42:57,320 --> 00:42:59,680
how it came to be in Newbury.
655
00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:03,160
Yes, Peter knew the people who had
the theatre
656
00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:06,680
and I think was Peter's
idea to do it.
657
00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:10,640
I suppose they must have asked us,
somebody must have asked us.
658
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:13,840
It wasn't much of an affair.
It was a country,
659
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:15,760
you know, village thing.
660
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:17,880
There was a light projection
being done
661
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:20,040
by the Hornsey College of Art.
662
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:29,200
I think my forte is, well, apart
from having an analytical mind
663
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:33,120
to do electronic sound,
at the opposite end,
664
00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:36,440
I'm very good at writing
665
00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:41,280
extended melody, for which there was
not really an opening at the BBC.
666
00:43:42,720 --> 00:43:44,800
And, so, I met this guy.
667
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:48,360
I was giving a lecture at Morley
College in London, and he came
668
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:52,360
up to me afterwards and he played
the double bass, same as I did.
669
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:54,840
And he was already doing
tracks for the Ballet Rambert.
670
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:59,760
And, so, we got together
and we started this album.
671
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:01,360
We got together.
672
00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:05,360
UPBEAT ELECTRONIC MUSIC
673
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:18,160
I was doing a postgrad degree
in the physics of electronics.
674
00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:24,960
We hear there's this lecture on
electronic music in the next hall,
675
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:30,160
given by some people from the
Radiophonic Workshop - Brian, Delia
676
00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:33,760
and Peter Zinovieff, who call
themselves Unit Delta Plus.
677
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:36,120
But I thought, "Christ.
678
00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:38,320
"Yes, absolutely. I want to see it."
679
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:40,600
So, I shot along to this thing.
680
00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:45,000
And, sure enough, these people
were actually doing what, to me,
681
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:46,520
had just been a fantasy.
682
00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:49,320
Also, I think there's some chemistry
683
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:51,960
between Delia and I, and we
sort of hit it off.
684
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:57,600
Yes, David sort of erupted
out of the audience at the end
685
00:44:57,600 --> 00:44:59,400
of the lecture.
686
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:04,160
Complete bearded hippie.
687
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:08,160
A bit like an excitable Peter Pan,
really.
688
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:13,480
And, er... I know he won't mind me
saying, he still is!
689
00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:17,000
"Unit Delta Plus! I remember you
guys were playing last week
690
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:20,400
"at the Roundhouse." And we got
to talking after, and we just got
691
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:22,560
on like a house on fire.
692
00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:26,280
And, within a week,
we'd started Kaleidophon.
693
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:29,240
Is this OK?
694
00:45:29,240 --> 00:45:30,520
Yes.
695
00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:31,680
I'm here this time,
696
00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:33,640
most nights, no-one comes in.
697
00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:36,480
The night porter thinks I'm a very
strange beast, and I am.
698
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:52,800
Oh, yeah, wow.
699
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:56,960
Where's the frequency shifter?
Frequency shifter? Er,
700
00:45:56,960 --> 00:45:58,880
it's there. There. There!
701
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:01,360
Ah, yes.
702
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:06,080
OK.
703
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:07,760
Yeah.
704
00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:11,360
Well, let's - we can start there,
can't we?
705
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:13,560
Erm. Fantastic. Careful with that.
706
00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:14,760
Uh-huh.
707
00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:19,800
How many you got? 12. 12?! Yeah.
708
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:21,360
Frequency shifter.
709
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:24,360
And then we have the, erm...
Incredible. ..these.
710
00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:26,000
And Phillips's of course.
711
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:28,880
OK. OK.
712
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:31,400
ECHOES
713
00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:35,720
Well, we might as well get going,
right? Right.
714
00:46:35,720 --> 00:46:38,840
OK, is that linked up to there?
Cos I can't see the...
715
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:41,640
Yes, of course. Of course
it is, fantastic.
716
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:43,520
ECHOING
717
00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:46,520
All right, look,
straight away...
718
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:47,880
ECHOING DISTORTION
719
00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:50,200
LOUD DISTORTION
720
00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:53,720
OK. I do know. I use it every day.
Yeah.
721
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:57,160
CHIMING
722
00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:05,080
So, psyche-Delia...
723
00:47:07,240 --> 00:47:08,840
..who are you?
724
00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:13,640
Hm...
725
00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:14,960
Now...
726
00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:18,640
What are you doing?
727
00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:21,440
HE MUMBLES
728
00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:23,400
Golly.
729
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:28,280
OK.
730
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:34,080
Oh, oh, gosh, where to start?
Go on...
731
00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:38,840
Um, no...I can't.
732
00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:42,160
Please, please, please. OK.
733
00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:44,760
Music... No, I'm not doing this.
734
00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:46,240
Mm! No. Mm.
735
00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:51,680
SHE LAUGHS
736
00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:59,360
Well, I studied music
and mathematics at Cambridge.
737
00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:05,520
You see, I'm fascinated by harmonics
and the numbers that are built
738
00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:11,840
into nature - clouds, mountains,
and coastlines, and ferns,
739
00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:14,840
and natural fractals.
740
00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:17,320
And, of course, our bodies
respond to those numbers,
741
00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:18,760
even at a subconscious level.
742
00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:21,040
And, electronic music...
743
00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:23,280
Well, I don't, I don't know.
744
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:27,480
I was three years old
during the Coventry Blitz,
745
00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:31,600
and I can still hear the sound
of the, the air raid sirens,
746
00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:34,360
a sort of permanent background hum.
747
00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:40,560
And then there was silence, followed
by the sound of the all-clear.
748
00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:43,480
And I can remember my mother
counting in the gaps
749
00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:45,360
between the bombs falling.
750
00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:51,560
Sorry, is this really boring?
751
00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:56,120
No, no, I'm closing my eyes
so I can hear you properly.
752
00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:59,080
Yes, yes, I do that sometimes.
753
00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:01,600
And I am very, very stoned.
754
00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:08,480
Go on, go on and on and on,
it's nice. No, it's not nice,
755
00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:11,280
not nice at all, David.
756
00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:17,880
Go on, you were talking about your
mother, please. Yes, yeah.
757
00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:22,160
Well, she didn't pray, which was
strange because she was a devout
758
00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:24,040
Catholic, she counted.
759
00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:26,800
And I think
there was something very,
760
00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:29,920
very potent within those spaces,
a sort of lifetime of faith
761
00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:31,600
for my mother.
762
00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:34,640
And, as a child, you don't know
what that is, of course.
763
00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:36,560
And I think those experiences,
764
00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:39,880
they must live in every cell
of your body.
765
00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:42,120
FAINT AMBIENT MUSIC
766
00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:48,280
Oh, I don't know,
it's just a silly theory.
767
00:50:28,120 --> 00:50:29,760
AMBIENT DRONE
768
00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:48,760
Stop! Stop, stop, stop...
769
00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:51,920
No, no, I don't care...
What do you mean?
770
00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:55,400
I like using...voices, just not
771
00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:58,000
as conventional vocals.
What do you mean?
772
00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:02,880
So, if, um, if somebody maybe,
in the background,
773
00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:05,000
was having an orgasm...
774
00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:06,960
Right. Yeah?
775
00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:09,960
Then we should use it as one
of the waveforms
776
00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:14,120
and then the listener will never
know what they're hearing.
777
00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:17,280
DISTORTED SOUND EFFECTS
778
00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:18,840
WOMAN CRIES
779
00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:24,360
HEARTBEATS
780
00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:27,240
SIREN AND SOUND EFFECTS
781
00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:35,400
I mean, it's marvellous.
782
00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:37,640
But, yes, they've turned it down.
783
00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:40,080
What was the problem this time?
784
00:51:40,080 --> 00:51:43,000
Well, you're not here most days,
are you?
785
00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:45,560
But I'm here every day,
I work through the night.
786
00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:47,800
What's that got to do with them?
Well, I can only assume
787
00:51:47,800 --> 00:51:50,680
you have other priorities. I've
always preferred to work at night.
788
00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:53,720
You know that. You've seen
how I work. Not recently, no.
789
00:51:53,720 --> 00:51:56,360
It's too crowded in here,
Desmond, during the day.
790
00:51:56,360 --> 00:51:59,080
There's too much work and there's
no space to work in.
791
00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:00,760
Yes.
792
00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:03,920
Well, according to this, it's, uh,
it's unforeseen circumstances
793
00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:06,200
that have prevented them
from using the piece.
794
00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:11,440
Desmond, they asked for a
light-hearted cartoon-like music for
795
00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:14,440
a car-maintenance programme,
not the national bloody anthem.
796
00:52:19,160 --> 00:52:21,080
Are we...are we wizards?
797
00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:23,360
Are we...?
798
00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:27,960
Electronic wizards. You know,
sound, sound wizards. Yeah...
799
00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:30,320
Oh, and this...
800
00:52:30,320 --> 00:52:32,480
..this sound here, right, Delia...
801
00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:37,040
..it put me in mind of, like,
an electronic blizzard.
802
00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:40,720
Oh, what, like a wizard
in a blizzard?!
803
00:52:40,720 --> 00:52:43,200
LAUGHTER
804
00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:44,720
Yeah.
805
00:52:44,720 --> 00:52:46,480
Why, why not?
806
00:52:46,480 --> 00:52:47,880
A wizard in a blizzard.
807
00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:49,680
Yes, why not.
808
00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:53,280
I mean, you might...you might laugh
but, listen, this album
809
00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:56,760
could be a sonic rite of passage
for future generations.
810
00:52:56,760 --> 00:52:58,920
Yeah? Yeah?
811
00:52:58,920 --> 00:53:01,520
SHE LAUGHS
812
00:53:01,520 --> 00:53:03,000
Just think of it.
813
00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:04,680
It's a romantic triangle, OK?
814
00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:06,640
Because there's, there's us in one
corner,
815
00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:08,200
there's the music in the other.
816
00:53:08,200 --> 00:53:10,120
And up here, right,
817
00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:13,840
is the future listeners
who we're giving birth to
818
00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:16,880
in this room right here, together.
819
00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:20,280
It's...it's pure electronic sex.
820
00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:24,680
Oh, yes! I love triangles!
821
00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:26,680
I do love triangles. Look...
822
00:53:28,360 --> 00:53:29,920
Yeah.
823
00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:32,000
Mm.
824
00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:37,840
And all their associated forms,
tripods, pyramids,
825
00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:39,480
cones...
826
00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:45,080
..and prisms. Yeah. Cones. Cones.
827
00:53:45,080 --> 00:53:46,600
Yeah.
828
00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:48,200
LAUGHTER
829
00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:50,160
Prisms! Yeah.
830
00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:52,480
Aren't we, Brian?
831
00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:54,200
It's a triangle, isn't it?
832
00:53:54,200 --> 00:53:56,320
It's a romantic triangle, Brian.
833
00:53:57,880 --> 00:53:59,360
Bri...
834
00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:00,640
TRIANGLE CHIMES
835
00:54:04,520 --> 00:54:06,080
CHIME ECHOES
836
00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:24,400
You know, I've always
been nonconformist.
837
00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:28,440
I don't like, you know,
the eight-bar standard thing,
838
00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:30,160
or the 12-bar blues.
839
00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:32,680
They're beautiful in their way,
840
00:54:32,680 --> 00:54:36,560
but why not explore
different phrase length?
841
00:54:41,120 --> 00:54:44,960
Oh, I've exploded my Daleks.
Good. Where are you off to
842
00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:46,920
in such a hurry, Delilah?
843
00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:50,360
Brian Jones. Brian Jones is here.
I love him.
844
00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:51,960
What, Brian "Rolling Stones" Jones?
845
00:54:51,960 --> 00:54:53,640
I love him. No, look.
846
00:54:53,640 --> 00:54:56,800
I've got him now. You can have him
later. Go and explode your Dalek.
847
00:54:58,200 --> 00:54:59,520
Brian Jones?!
848
00:55:01,520 --> 00:55:03,200
Goodness me.
849
00:55:03,200 --> 00:55:06,520
There we were with our
12 oscillators,
850
00:55:06,520 --> 00:55:09,040
hand-tuned oscillators.
851
00:55:09,040 --> 00:55:11,680
And eight...circuits...
852
00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:15,240
..and he sort of went to it...
853
00:55:15,240 --> 00:55:17,120
..with his...
854
00:55:17,120 --> 00:55:21,480
Oh, I remember him so vividly,
with his frilly cuffs, and things.
855
00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:25,080
And he went to it so he could play
it as a musical instrument!
856
00:55:25,080 --> 00:55:27,280
SHE LAUGHS
857
00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:29,160
I think he was too spaced out!
858
00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:36,480
AMBIENT MUSIC
859
00:55:41,480 --> 00:55:44,440
I didn't want to go back
to cutting up tape,
860
00:55:44,440 --> 00:55:47,080
because I was so against
tape machines.
861
00:55:47,080 --> 00:55:49,520
I was incredibly romantic
862
00:55:49,520 --> 00:55:52,920
and Brian and Delia
were very practical.
863
00:55:54,200 --> 00:55:56,560
They really weren't interested
in the fact that
864
00:55:56,560 --> 00:56:01,000
in the future, wonderful, exotic
things could be done by computers.
865
00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:04,240
They were interested
in what could be done today.
866
00:56:06,360 --> 00:56:09,560
The next item,
Partita For Unattended Computer,
867
00:56:09,560 --> 00:56:13,960
by Peter Zinovieff, is a true live
performance in the sense that
868
00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:16,520
no magnetic tape has
been used at all.
869
00:56:16,520 --> 00:56:19,800
Furthermore, the computer
has a choice, at various stages
870
00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:22,680
in the procedure, and the piece
therefore comes out different every
871
00:56:22,680 --> 00:56:24,880
time it's played. The performance
872
00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:27,880
you're about to hear is therefore
unique and unrepeatable.
873
00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:29,480
First of all, checks are made...
874
00:56:29,480 --> 00:56:31,120
VOICEOVER: Right from the beginning,
875
00:56:31,120 --> 00:56:33,600
it never really clicked.
876
00:56:33,600 --> 00:56:37,600
I don't think we quarrelled,
but just nothing happened.
877
00:56:39,320 --> 00:56:42,920
Pity it didn't work out with Peter.
Hm. I think he's accepted
878
00:56:42,920 --> 00:56:46,000
that we're all pulling
in different directions now.
879
00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:47,760
I hope so. I think he's a genius.
880
00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:49,200
I just can't work that way.
881
00:56:51,280 --> 00:56:54,120
What do you think of his idea
for an unattended computer?
882
00:56:54,120 --> 00:56:55,640
Well, it's very difficult to say.
883
00:56:55,640 --> 00:56:57,360
I think it's thrilling as a concept.
884
00:56:57,360 --> 00:57:00,040
But are the sounds
interesting enough?
885
00:57:00,040 --> 00:57:03,200
He's a visionary, a futurist.
886
00:57:03,200 --> 00:57:04,480
Hm.
887
00:57:07,040 --> 00:57:10,080
LOW RUMBLING
888
00:57:10,080 --> 00:57:11,960
Um. Toodaloo.
889
00:57:11,960 --> 00:57:13,400
Golly.
890
00:57:14,680 --> 00:57:16,400
What's that?
891
00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:18,680
Oh, yeah...
892
00:57:18,680 --> 00:57:21,520
Yeah, it's just, um, yeah,
I don't know.
893
00:57:21,520 --> 00:57:23,200
I don't know.
894
00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:25,440
I've just been, I've just
been working on it.
895
00:57:25,440 --> 00:57:27,680
It's sort of like an electric bass,
but it's got
896
00:57:27,680 --> 00:57:30,120
an electro conductive tape, here.
897
00:57:30,120 --> 00:57:31,720
Yeah. I'm not sure yet.
898
00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:33,360
I don't know.
899
00:57:33,360 --> 00:57:35,720
I dunno. Could be good.
Interesting. Could be good.
900
00:57:35,720 --> 00:57:38,080
Yeah. Could be. Yeah.
901
00:57:38,080 --> 00:57:40,240
Good news. I've got good news.
Very good news.
902
00:57:40,240 --> 00:57:42,240
Sit down. Sit down.
903
00:57:42,240 --> 00:57:44,960
Oh, just tell us,
will you, I can't bear it.
904
00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:47,600
I took some of the stuff we're
working on to my friend Chris
905
00:57:47,600 --> 00:57:51,960
at Island Records,
and he absolutely loved it.
906
00:57:51,960 --> 00:57:54,000
Absolutely loved it. Loved it.
907
00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:55,840
Great. And he said,
"What do you want?"
908
00:57:55,840 --> 00:57:58,320
And I said, "Well, we'd quite
like to do a single."
909
00:57:58,320 --> 00:58:01,440
And then he said, "David, how much
do you think a single makes?"
910
00:58:01,440 --> 00:58:04,040
I said, "I don't know, Chris.
I've really no idea."
911
00:58:04,040 --> 00:58:05,560
He stopped me there.
912
00:58:05,560 --> 00:58:07,360
And then then he said, "ยฃ3,000."
913
00:58:07,360 --> 00:58:09,000
And, so, there and then,
914
00:58:09,000 --> 00:58:12,920
he wrote me a cheque... No.
..for ยฃ3,000, said,
915
00:58:12,920 --> 00:58:15,560
"He's your single.
Now, go make an album."
916
00:58:15,560 --> 00:58:17,760
No! Yeah.
917
00:58:17,760 --> 00:58:20,280
Oh, that's marvellous!
Yeah, yeah.
918
00:58:21,360 --> 00:58:23,160
Well done, well done.
919
00:58:23,160 --> 00:58:24,440
That's marvellous.
920
00:58:24,440 --> 00:58:26,240
Let's hear it - come on.
921
00:58:26,240 --> 00:58:27,760
Well done. Where is it?
922
00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:31,640
# I'm just as high
in a rug looking up
923
00:58:31,640 --> 00:58:34,440
# As I was in a cloud
looking down... #
924
00:58:34,440 --> 00:58:35,640
Der, um, dum...
925
00:58:35,640 --> 00:58:37,440
# Fire burn... #
926
00:58:37,440 --> 00:58:38,440
Etc.
927
00:58:41,960 --> 00:58:45,960
Yes, Brian arranged that,
a meeting with Chris Blackwell.
928
00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:49,040
I think David had some contacts
at Island Records.
929
00:58:49,040 --> 00:58:50,680
I spent as much time
930
00:58:50,680 --> 00:58:53,520
as I could in the studio there,
which was on the top floor.
931
00:58:53,520 --> 00:58:57,960
The living accommodation
was quite horrendous.
932
00:58:57,960 --> 00:59:01,520
By then, Delia was getting
into sort of hippiedom.
933
00:59:01,520 --> 00:59:05,040
The ceiling had a parachute draped
from it and she had a cat -
934
00:59:05,040 --> 00:59:08,160
it had fleas, always.
935
00:59:08,160 --> 00:59:11,400
So, we got our numbers together.
936
00:59:11,400 --> 00:59:15,160
SHE SCREAMS
937
00:59:15,160 --> 00:59:17,680
All right, all right, all right,
listen, listen...
938
00:59:17,680 --> 00:59:19,920
Think about it, Jen,
right, your boyfriend,
939
00:59:19,920 --> 00:59:22,000
he's just...he's just crashed
his car.
940
00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:25,320
So, you're running away, in the
woods, somewhere off the A1,
941
00:59:25,320 --> 00:59:26,800
through a lay-by.
942
00:59:26,800 --> 00:59:29,480
You are wearing hardly any clothes.
Brutal rain, crashing down!
943
00:59:29,480 --> 00:59:30,960
This is horrific.
944
00:59:30,960 --> 00:59:32,600
So, so, give me some more. OK?
945
00:59:32,600 --> 00:59:33,960
Give me more.
946
00:59:33,960 --> 00:59:36,400
SHE SCREAMS
947
00:59:36,400 --> 00:59:38,000
More!
948
00:59:38,000 --> 00:59:39,440
SHE SCREAMS
949
00:59:39,440 --> 00:59:40,840
SHE WAILS
950
00:59:40,840 --> 00:59:42,480
Yeah...
951
00:59:44,280 --> 00:59:45,840
Yes!
952
00:59:45,840 --> 00:59:48,960
SHE WAILS
953
00:59:48,960 --> 00:59:50,200
YES!
954
00:59:50,200 --> 00:59:52,160
The rain is...
955
00:59:52,160 --> 00:59:54,240
Blood and piss and rain...
956
00:59:54,240 --> 00:59:56,080
SHE SCREAMS
957
00:59:57,920 --> 01:00:02,320
SCREAMING CONTINUES
958
01:00:03,440 --> 01:00:05,520
Is that the sort of thing?
959
01:00:05,520 --> 01:00:08,320
That's incredible. Right...
960
01:00:08,320 --> 01:00:09,600
Hey.
961
01:00:09,600 --> 01:00:10,880
Hi, darling, hey!
962
01:00:11,920 --> 01:00:13,640
Right.
963
01:00:13,640 --> 01:00:16,400
I did a piece for
the Ballet Rambert,
964
01:00:16,400 --> 01:00:18,680
and a couple of actresses
965
01:00:18,680 --> 01:00:24,320
from the Royal Shakespeare Company
came over to record their voices.
966
01:00:24,320 --> 01:00:30,840
And I remember we were...we'd
recorded them telling stories
967
01:00:30,840 --> 01:00:34,520
of new experiences,
and stuff like that.
968
01:00:34,520 --> 01:00:40,800
And, then, just the sounds
of laughing, crying, screaming...
969
01:00:42,480 --> 01:00:48,080
..whispering - just about every
emotion you could think of.
970
01:00:49,200 --> 01:00:54,640
And we were mixing these things
later, after everyone had left.
971
01:00:56,000 --> 01:00:58,200
And, erm...
972
01:00:58,200 --> 01:01:02,600
..oh, yeah, there was this banging
at the door, really violent
973
01:01:02,600 --> 01:01:04,920
and I opened the door.
974
01:01:04,920 --> 01:01:08,840
The police came in and pushed me
aside, searched the place.
975
01:01:08,840 --> 01:01:13,160
When they found there wasn't anybody
there, they stopped and told me
976
01:01:13,160 --> 01:01:15,360
what it was about.
977
01:01:15,360 --> 01:01:20,000
They said there'd been a complaint
that somebody had heard a girl
978
01:01:20,000 --> 01:01:23,160
being hysterically raped in my room.
979
01:01:24,480 --> 01:01:28,320
So, this is what mixing tapes
in the night is.
980
01:01:28,320 --> 01:01:33,080
The next day, the guy
underneath us dies,
981
01:01:33,080 --> 01:01:37,480
and, less than a week later,
the guy next door dies.
982
01:01:37,480 --> 01:01:41,040
And one of them was 98,
the other had cancer.
983
01:01:41,040 --> 01:01:45,160
But that didn't stop
the people around saying
984
01:01:45,160 --> 01:01:49,480
it's these new electronic sounds
that have done them in.
985
01:01:49,480 --> 01:01:52,920
And we were like Frankensteins,
986
01:01:52,920 --> 01:01:56,320
and the villagers had come
with their pitchforks,
987
01:01:56,320 --> 01:02:01,400
you know, and we were evicted
from that place so damn fast.
988
01:02:07,640 --> 01:02:09,520
WOMAN SOBS
989
01:02:16,280 --> 01:02:19,200
CHANTING
990
01:02:40,120 --> 01:02:42,040
EERIE AMBIENT MUSIC
991
01:02:42,040 --> 01:02:45,520
ROCK AND ROLL DRUMS BEAT
992
01:02:54,000 --> 01:02:59,640
AMBIENT VOICES
993
01:03:05,920 --> 01:03:07,520
ROCK MUSIC PLAYS
994
01:03:30,560 --> 01:03:31,960
Thank you.
995
01:03:33,400 --> 01:03:35,480
Slob.
996
01:03:40,840 --> 01:03:45,240
RADIO: The death has been announced
today of former the Rolling Stones
997
01:03:45,240 --> 01:03:48,800
guitarist Brian Jones. He was found
dead at his parents' home
998
01:03:48,800 --> 01:03:50,600
in Hatfield, East Sussex.
999
01:03:52,320 --> 01:03:54,960
Yeah, I wept into my
washing-up bowl.
1000
01:03:54,960 --> 01:03:59,080
At that time, I was living
with David Vorhaus, I think.
1001
01:03:59,080 --> 01:04:04,120
At his parents' country home,
country retreat.
1002
01:04:05,760 --> 01:04:08,800
Oh, golly, all these people dying.
1003
01:04:12,000 --> 01:04:14,240
EERIE MUSIC
1004
01:04:44,680 --> 01:04:47,120
YOUNG GIRL: The land
at the bottom of the sea.
1005
01:04:49,960 --> 01:04:53,760
WOMAN: It wasn't a stormy sea
but it was a frightening sea.
1006
01:04:56,720 --> 01:05:00,280
And I had the sensation
that I was going to drown.
1007
01:05:06,440 --> 01:05:07,800
TRANSCENDENTAL MUSIC
1008
01:05:11,520 --> 01:05:13,400
MALE VOICE: The dream condition.
1009
01:05:23,160 --> 01:05:26,080
Mary, hello, how was your journey?
1010
01:05:26,080 --> 01:05:27,240
Oh, magnificent.
1011
01:05:27,240 --> 01:05:29,040
I took the 38 bus from Somers Town,
1012
01:05:29,040 --> 01:05:30,440
it was terribly easy.
1013
01:05:30,440 --> 01:05:31,920
Oh, Ada will be here soon.
1014
01:05:31,920 --> 01:05:34,000
I just...I don't know where to
begin.
1015
01:05:34,000 --> 01:05:36,720
You must have a clear idea
of where you want to end up.
1016
01:05:36,720 --> 01:05:40,240
Otherwise, you'll just be blown
about by every momentary
1017
01:05:40,240 --> 01:05:42,360
gust of feeling.
1018
01:05:42,360 --> 01:05:46,640
You must stand firm, my dear, and
accept that people will not like it.
1019
01:05:48,040 --> 01:05:49,560
Let's have a drink.
1020
01:05:49,560 --> 01:05:52,760
All the civilised women
of the present century are anxious
1021
01:05:52,760 --> 01:05:56,040
only to inspire love, when they
ought to have the nobler aim of
1022
01:05:56,040 --> 01:05:58,560
getting respect for
their abilities and virtues.
1023
01:05:58,560 --> 01:06:00,320
KNOCK ON DOOR
Oh, Ada, Ada.
1024
01:06:00,320 --> 01:06:02,960
Ada, Hello. Please come in.
Thank you for coming.
1025
01:06:02,960 --> 01:06:05,840
Mary's been helping me come
to terms with a broken heart.
1026
01:06:05,840 --> 01:06:08,440
I need to clarify my own wave
patterns and clear them
1027
01:06:08,440 --> 01:06:10,080
of all irrelevancies.
1028
01:06:10,080 --> 01:06:12,720
If anything is blocking that
process, your natural resonances
1029
01:06:12,720 --> 01:06:14,440
will be stifled.
1030
01:06:14,440 --> 01:06:17,120
Firstly, you must not wish
to have power over men.
1031
01:06:17,120 --> 01:06:19,120
But power over yourself.
1032
01:06:19,120 --> 01:06:20,440
Is that fair, Ada?
1033
01:06:20,440 --> 01:06:24,720
Yes, and perhaps not always happy,
perhaps, and not always fulfilled.
1034
01:06:26,880 --> 01:06:29,400
But at one with myself. Yes.
1035
01:06:29,400 --> 01:06:34,080
You need to find friends
in women and fellows in men.
1036
01:06:34,080 --> 01:06:36,840
Yes. I'll drink to that.
1037
01:06:36,840 --> 01:06:40,280
Your best and wisest refuge
from all troubles
1038
01:06:40,280 --> 01:06:43,400
is in your science, Delia.
1039
01:06:43,400 --> 01:06:47,080
Yes. Essential truth and beauty
through music.
1040
01:06:47,080 --> 01:06:49,080
Let the pattern of mathematics
1041
01:06:49,080 --> 01:06:51,320
be my road map to fulfilment.
And love,
1042
01:06:51,320 --> 01:06:54,640
by its very nature,
must be transitory.
1043
01:06:54,640 --> 01:06:58,240
So, to friendship. To friendship!
To friendship.
1044
01:07:01,360 --> 01:07:04,520
CLINKING SOUND RESONATES
1045
01:07:06,240 --> 01:07:08,160
WIND WHISTLES
1046
01:07:15,800 --> 01:07:20,960
FEMALE VOICE: It is raining women's
voices as if they were dead.
1047
01:07:20,960 --> 01:07:24,960
Sorry, sorry, it's just
a little too posh.
1048
01:07:24,960 --> 01:07:29,160
Uh, yes, that makes sense.
Do you want me to do it again?
1049
01:07:29,160 --> 01:07:30,800
Yeah.
1050
01:07:32,760 --> 01:07:35,480
It is raining - oh, hell,
that's not it at all. No.
1051
01:07:35,480 --> 01:07:38,000
It is raining. Women's voices...
1052
01:07:38,000 --> 01:07:40,240
Can we just do the whole thing...
1053
01:07:40,240 --> 01:07:42,000
There should be two of these.
1054
01:07:42,000 --> 01:07:44,200
I left... Did you take
the other one?
1055
01:07:45,920 --> 01:07:47,200
Bloody hell!
1056
01:07:47,200 --> 01:07:50,200
OK, that's enough, come on now,
everybody out. We're overheating.
1057
01:07:50,200 --> 01:07:52,760
Of course we are, because we're
sealed in here
1058
01:07:52,760 --> 01:07:54,520
like a tinned shepherd's pie.
1059
01:07:56,640 --> 01:07:58,120
Right, going out.
1060
01:07:58,120 --> 01:08:00,760
I can't stand
the sight of Desmond today.
1061
01:08:00,760 --> 01:08:03,160
Delia's depressions
grew out of pressure.
1062
01:08:05,040 --> 01:08:08,000
I mean, a depression is basically
when you back off from life,
1063
01:08:08,000 --> 01:08:10,960
you depress yourself away from it,
and I think that's
1064
01:08:10,960 --> 01:08:12,960
how it all started.
1065
01:08:12,960 --> 01:08:16,000
Everything was expected of Delia.
She was the, you know,
1066
01:08:16,000 --> 01:08:18,160
the clever girl at school.
1067
01:08:18,160 --> 01:08:21,000
She was... She shone
in everything she did.
1068
01:08:22,240 --> 01:08:25,480
She also, we must remember,
she was a mathematician,
1069
01:08:25,480 --> 01:08:29,560
and, very often, mathematicians
burn out quite early on in life.
1070
01:08:30,960 --> 01:08:34,320
And I think the circumstances
around her private life
1071
01:08:34,320 --> 01:08:36,120
were getting a bit complex.
1072
01:08:37,760 --> 01:08:40,720
I remember, at one point,
Ron Grainer saying to her,
1073
01:08:40,720 --> 01:08:42,600
"Delia, you drink too much."
1074
01:08:42,600 --> 01:08:44,200
And she said, "No, I don't."
1075
01:08:44,200 --> 01:08:46,880
It was self-medication,
to keep her calm I think.
1076
01:08:49,240 --> 01:08:53,360
And the trouble with any sort
of medication is it goes
1077
01:08:53,360 --> 01:08:57,360
on and on. They were
starting in the '70s.
1078
01:08:57,360 --> 01:08:59,640
You know, the late '60s and '70s,
and...
1079
01:09:01,000 --> 01:09:03,720
..went on, really, for the rest of
her life.
1080
01:09:03,720 --> 01:09:05,960
She was not a conformist in any way.
1081
01:09:07,360 --> 01:09:10,280
I did rebel against a lot of, um...
1082
01:09:11,960 --> 01:09:14,080
Ah! Yes, yes, I did.
1083
01:09:14,080 --> 01:09:17,120
I did all sorts of things
I was told I couldn't do.
1084
01:09:22,640 --> 01:09:26,000
Peter says it's not ready for
commercial use yet, may never be.
1085
01:09:26,000 --> 01:09:28,600
They just want to see
how we get on with it.
1086
01:09:28,600 --> 01:09:32,520
But the filters and oscillators
are much more stable than the VCS 3.
1087
01:09:32,520 --> 01:09:35,560
It's based around a combination of
three VCS 3 systems,
1088
01:09:35,560 --> 01:09:37,840
combined into one massive
synthesiser.
1089
01:09:39,920 --> 01:09:44,080
Well, you know, I'm sorry, Desmond,
but it's hopeless. Right...
1090
01:09:44,080 --> 01:09:45,640
DISCORDANT BEEPING
1091
01:09:45,640 --> 01:09:47,920
Listen, these sounds
have nothing to them.
1092
01:09:47,920 --> 01:09:50,040
I think we need to give it
a little bit more time to see
1093
01:09:50,040 --> 01:09:51,920
how you can help us.
1094
01:09:53,200 --> 01:09:54,840
Well... That's much faster.
1095
01:09:56,040 --> 01:09:57,720
Certainly won't help me.
1096
01:10:02,840 --> 01:10:06,520
It was called Delaware
or they wanted to call it Delaware.
1097
01:10:06,520 --> 01:10:09,520
So, it wasn't even
a Synthi 100, then.
1098
01:10:09,520 --> 01:10:12,960
We only made about 30,
1099
01:10:12,960 --> 01:10:14,920
35 or something.
1100
01:10:14,920 --> 01:10:16,680
But they're marvellous machines.
1101
01:10:16,680 --> 01:10:19,360
I was really looking forward
to having synthesisers
1102
01:10:19,360 --> 01:10:21,920
because I knew it would speed up
the work so much.
1103
01:10:21,920 --> 01:10:25,400
I was looking forward to being able
to do things much more quickly.
1104
01:10:25,400 --> 01:10:29,520
But I think I'm still disappointed
with synthesisers and what one can
1105
01:10:29,520 --> 01:10:32,080
do with them,
with the flexibility of them.
1106
01:10:32,080 --> 01:10:34,680
I think the trouble was she was
too in advance of her time.
1107
01:10:34,680 --> 01:10:37,040
Really, if you look back on it,
we all thought
1108
01:10:37,040 --> 01:10:39,360
it was the best thing
since sliced bread,
1109
01:10:39,360 --> 01:10:40,960
but it was a very primitive machine.
1110
01:10:40,960 --> 01:10:44,120
I'd still like to get inside it
somehow and make it do
1111
01:10:44,120 --> 01:10:46,320
a more human sound
than what it does.
1112
01:10:46,320 --> 01:10:48,280
We have a new commission,
1113
01:10:48,280 --> 01:10:51,560
from the Institute
of Electrical Engineers.
1114
01:10:52,640 --> 01:10:56,800
We are going to do
a radiophonic workshop in concert.
1115
01:10:56,800 --> 01:10:59,800
We can really show off
our Synthi 100, here.
1116
01:10:59,800 --> 01:11:01,520
So, let's wow them.
1117
01:11:01,520 --> 01:11:04,080
Remember, audience-wise,
1118
01:11:04,080 --> 01:11:07,280
while there will be a natural
interest in music, electronics,
1119
01:11:07,280 --> 01:11:09,600
and the arts, the social nature of
the event
1120
01:11:09,600 --> 01:11:13,160
and the presence of the ladies
will require that the programme
1121
01:11:13,160 --> 01:11:15,440
is not too technical,
but entertaining
1122
01:11:15,440 --> 01:11:17,320
and aesthetically pleasing.
1123
01:11:17,320 --> 01:11:18,680
So, Delia...
1124
01:11:18,680 --> 01:11:20,360
What are you doing?
1125
01:11:20,360 --> 01:11:22,080
Decomposing.
1126
01:11:23,480 --> 01:11:24,680
Mm.
1127
01:11:27,280 --> 01:11:28,640
This is a nightmare.
1128
01:11:35,440 --> 01:11:37,080
There's a deadline looming
1129
01:11:37,080 --> 01:11:39,520
and we haven't heard anything
from you yet.
1130
01:11:44,400 --> 01:11:45,560
Right.
1131
01:11:51,280 --> 01:11:53,120
HE CLEARS THROAT
1132
01:11:58,080 --> 01:12:00,400
Gladstone...
1133
01:12:00,400 --> 01:12:03,000
..congratulates Edison.
1134
01:12:05,160 --> 01:12:08,160
Morse code.
1135
01:12:08,160 --> 01:12:10,000
And a space rocket...
1136
01:12:11,920 --> 01:12:13,440
..taking off.
1137
01:12:15,480 --> 01:12:21,560
Use the scaffolding, fit it
1138
01:12:21,560 --> 01:12:23,120
where it fits.
1139
01:12:23,120 --> 01:12:26,960
It was a big, official number
1140
01:12:26,960 --> 01:12:30,960
which was being performed in front
of the Queen at the Festival Hall
1141
01:12:30,960 --> 01:12:34,160
and she'd been commissioned
to do a short piece
1142
01:12:34,160 --> 01:12:37,080
using the Delaware synthesiser,
1143
01:12:37,080 --> 01:12:41,480
which was, by then, you know,
that was the bee's knees
1144
01:12:41,480 --> 01:12:44,120
of modern equipment.
1145
01:12:44,120 --> 01:12:48,160
I began by interpreting
the actual letters,
1146
01:12:48,160 --> 01:12:52,040
IEE100, in two different ways.
1147
01:12:52,040 --> 01:12:55,680
The first one in
a Morse code version
1148
01:12:55,680 --> 01:12:59,840
using the Morse for IEE100.
1149
01:12:59,840 --> 01:13:02,960
This I found extremely dull
rhythmically.
1150
01:13:02,960 --> 01:13:06,600
MORSE CODE PATTERN PLAYS ON A LOOP
1151
01:13:15,920 --> 01:13:19,200
That's just awful.
It's just awful!
1152
01:13:19,200 --> 01:13:22,520
It's just bad.
1153
01:13:22,520 --> 01:13:23,920
SHE SWITCHES MUSIC OFF
1154
01:13:25,560 --> 01:13:28,360
SYNTHESISER SOUNDS
1155
01:13:28,360 --> 01:13:30,680
SHE SIGHS
1156
01:13:30,680 --> 01:13:34,120
TAPE REWINDS
1157
01:13:34,120 --> 01:13:39,120
And I said to him, whatever you do,
when you get to the final mix,
1158
01:13:39,120 --> 01:13:42,880
run tapes in the next door studio
as well, don't tell her.
1159
01:13:42,880 --> 01:13:45,920
Run duplicates and bring me
the duplicates yourself.
1160
01:13:45,920 --> 01:13:48,120
PHONE RINGS
1161
01:13:49,880 --> 01:13:52,560
Did you get it on with the machine?
1162
01:13:52,560 --> 01:13:53,720
Well done.
1163
01:13:55,760 --> 01:13:58,440
I most definitely suffered
from what I'd call
1164
01:13:58,440 --> 01:14:00,400
reverse adrenaline.
1165
01:14:00,400 --> 01:14:02,240
ECHOING: Reverse adrenaline...
1166
01:14:02,240 --> 01:14:06,680
When a project deadline got closer,
my output slowed down enormously
1167
01:14:06,680 --> 01:14:09,120
and there were just
other things to do.
1168
01:14:10,600 --> 01:14:13,680
But I went to the event.
I did my bit.
1169
01:14:16,800 --> 01:14:19,200
Though I was furious
with Brian at the time.
1170
01:14:22,240 --> 01:14:23,960
I think it went well.
1171
01:14:25,480 --> 01:14:27,800
The Queen liked it, apparently.
1172
01:14:29,280 --> 01:14:32,440
I'm not even sure she stayed
till the end.
1173
01:14:32,440 --> 01:14:34,040
I certainly didn't.
1174
01:14:34,040 --> 01:14:40,240
I've tried to get into it a feeling
of simplicity and loneliness.
1175
01:14:41,720 --> 01:14:43,760
Of a man on a moon.
1176
01:15:00,400 --> 01:15:03,000
It's...it's anaemic.
1177
01:15:04,720 --> 01:15:06,800
We'll play it to them
and then we'll see.
1178
01:15:06,800 --> 01:15:09,400
The programme's going into colour
now and there's a new Doctor.
1179
01:15:09,400 --> 01:15:13,160
So? It's my job to make sure
that we stay afloat
1180
01:15:13,160 --> 01:15:15,840
under this particular regime.
1181
01:15:15,840 --> 01:15:20,320
CACOPHONOUS SOUNDS
1182
01:15:32,240 --> 01:15:35,200
The world went out of tune
with itself.
1183
01:15:40,440 --> 01:15:47,520
Looking back, there was something
at that time, '72, '73, '74,
1184
01:15:47,520 --> 01:15:49,760
that went wrong.
1185
01:16:08,440 --> 01:16:10,960
It's hard to say why I left.
1186
01:16:14,200 --> 01:16:16,200
Self-preservation, I think.
1187
01:16:28,360 --> 01:16:31,800
I finally left the Workshop in 1973.
1188
01:16:33,840 --> 01:16:35,720
I don't have any bitterness.
1189
01:16:35,720 --> 01:16:37,600
I made my own choices.
1190
01:16:49,240 --> 01:16:52,760
DISTORTED BIRDSONG
1191
01:17:02,720 --> 01:17:04,560
Can you hear what I hear?
1192
01:17:09,440 --> 01:17:13,400
Partly why she left the BBC was
there was a lot of pressure on her
1193
01:17:13,400 --> 01:17:16,680
and at the same time no recognition.
1194
01:17:16,680 --> 01:17:19,760
I think I met Delia in '72.
1195
01:17:19,760 --> 01:17:21,400
I got on quite well with her.
1196
01:17:21,400 --> 01:17:25,120
We looked at Circle Of Light
and listened to the soundtrack.
1197
01:17:25,120 --> 01:17:26,880
And I was very impressed.
1198
01:17:26,880 --> 01:17:31,160
I said, OK, I'd like to work
with her. So, we went to a pub.
1199
01:17:31,160 --> 01:17:36,000
We asked her up to collaborate on
our first film, One Of These Days,
1200
01:17:36,000 --> 01:17:39,200
which I made with Elsa Stansfield.
1201
01:17:39,200 --> 01:17:42,320
And she was telling, you know,
that she was really fed up
1202
01:17:42,320 --> 01:17:45,160
with the BBC and wanted
to do her own things,
1203
01:17:45,160 --> 01:17:50,640
and very curious to hear about
the film, and what we wanted to do,
1204
01:17:50,640 --> 01:17:54,480
that she could come
to the Netherlands, and like that.
1205
01:17:54,480 --> 01:17:56,400
She felt no restrictions
1206
01:17:56,400 --> 01:17:59,600
and I think that appealed
very much to her.
1207
01:17:59,600 --> 01:18:01,800
She was totally free.
1208
01:18:03,680 --> 01:18:06,680
MUSIC: Circle Of Light, Part 2 by
Delia Derbyshire and Elsa Stansfield
1209
01:18:18,800 --> 01:18:24,280
I just had to sleep. To me,
everything was out of tune
1210
01:18:24,280 --> 01:18:30,280
in the world, so I'd go as far north
in England as I can,
1211
01:18:30,280 --> 01:18:34,200
so, I went there.
I had a lovely house
1212
01:18:34,200 --> 01:18:37,600
built from stones and Hadrian's
wall, yeah.
1213
01:18:37,600 --> 01:18:39,440
SHE CHUCKLES
1214
01:18:40,560 --> 01:18:43,160
Crazy, crazy, crazy!
1215
01:18:43,160 --> 01:18:46,280
London needs you, Delilah, darling.
1216
01:18:46,280 --> 01:18:50,600
I've set up my studio permanently
now at 8, 9 and 10 Studios,
1217
01:18:50,600 --> 01:18:52,680
Neal's Yard, Covent Garden.
1218
01:18:52,680 --> 01:18:55,520
I've called it Electrophon.
1219
01:18:55,520 --> 01:18:57,840
Perhaps I could lure you back.
1220
01:18:57,840 --> 01:18:59,680
With love from B.
1221
01:18:59,680 --> 01:19:01,560
Please get in touch.
1222
01:19:01,560 --> 01:19:03,360
I miss you.
1223
01:19:04,960 --> 01:19:06,960
I was in a disused quarry.
1224
01:19:08,160 --> 01:19:12,800
They advertised for
a French-speaking radio operator.
1225
01:19:15,120 --> 01:19:18,800
And, as soon as I saw the word
"radio," I applied.
1226
01:19:18,800 --> 01:19:20,400
Bonjour.
1227
01:19:20,400 --> 01:19:22,320
Delia went to work originally
1228
01:19:22,320 --> 01:19:23,640
on the gas pipeline
1229
01:19:23,640 --> 01:19:26,240
that was being laid across Cumbria.
1230
01:19:26,240 --> 01:19:27,720
It was all around sound
1231
01:19:27,720 --> 01:19:28,720
and language.
1232
01:19:28,720 --> 01:19:30,160
She was a French speaker
1233
01:19:30,160 --> 01:19:32,440
and would have been bilingual.
1234
01:19:32,440 --> 01:19:36,400
She told me that she'd met
her husband when he was laying
1235
01:19:36,400 --> 01:19:37,960
the gas pipelines.
1236
01:19:40,720 --> 01:19:45,200
We kept in touch after Delia
left for Cumbria
1237
01:19:45,200 --> 01:19:50,880
and went to marry a local man
there in Gilsland.
1238
01:19:50,880 --> 01:19:55,440
It looked like they'd nothing
in common apart from the drinking.
1239
01:19:55,440 --> 01:19:57,960
There wasn't much else.
They were so different.
1240
01:20:00,360 --> 01:20:03,600
And I think, in a little village,
like she was,
1241
01:20:03,600 --> 01:20:07,520
people thought she was
some kind of screwball, really.
1242
01:20:09,120 --> 01:20:11,800
Delia broke up with her husband.
1243
01:20:11,800 --> 01:20:15,080
It was inevitable, it was always
going to happen,
1244
01:20:15,080 --> 01:20:18,360
and she went to the LYC
and got some work there.
1245
01:20:18,360 --> 01:20:21,280
It was an incredible place.
1246
01:20:21,280 --> 01:20:25,040
She moved into an environment
which was much more her
1247
01:20:25,040 --> 01:20:29,600
because it was artists,
and stimulation, and things to do.
1248
01:20:29,600 --> 01:20:33,320
I think Delia is one of those people
that I met in life
1249
01:20:33,320 --> 01:20:35,560
a bit like a meteor, really.
1250
01:20:35,560 --> 01:20:38,160
It was this incredible flash,
1251
01:20:38,160 --> 01:20:40,840
this woman who did all these things
1252
01:20:40,840 --> 01:20:43,080
and then just went,
1253
01:20:43,080 --> 01:20:44,720
but I won't ever forget her.
1254
01:20:46,480 --> 01:20:49,240
I lived and worked with one of
the first group
1255
01:20:49,240 --> 01:20:52,320
of Chinese abstract artists,
Li Yuan-chia,
1256
01:20:52,320 --> 01:20:56,160
at his art gallery and museum
by Hadrian's Wall.
1257
01:20:57,760 --> 01:21:01,360
Well, Li was
a very hard working man,
1258
01:21:01,360 --> 01:21:04,800
and not really a people person,
1259
01:21:04,800 --> 01:21:07,760
you know, kind of shy and afraid.
1260
01:21:07,760 --> 01:21:11,080
And his LYC was really his artwork.
1261
01:21:11,080 --> 01:21:15,560
The museum was his artwork,
like a social sculpture.
1262
01:21:15,560 --> 01:21:19,720
And it was also kind of a space
where you could drink tea
1263
01:21:19,720 --> 01:21:23,560
in a library, and where children
could play.
1264
01:21:23,560 --> 01:21:30,360
So it was a very open space
with a lot of good exhibitions.
1265
01:21:30,360 --> 01:21:34,240
But I met also Winifred Nicholson
through him.
1266
01:21:34,240 --> 01:21:39,440
Li got the first building partly
through Winifred.
1267
01:21:42,000 --> 01:21:45,040
Did you really convert
this place single-handedly?
1268
01:21:46,760 --> 01:21:48,320
No.
1269
01:21:48,320 --> 01:21:51,160
All the help I need comes
from the birds
1270
01:21:51,160 --> 01:21:53,560
and my good friend
Winifred Nicholson.
1271
01:21:55,600 --> 01:21:57,240
Let's play a game.
1272
01:21:57,240 --> 01:22:00,000
We each write in only two words
1273
01:22:00,000 --> 01:22:02,760
the absolute essence of something,
1274
01:22:02,760 --> 01:22:05,560
or nothing. Like your cosmic point.
1275
01:22:07,200 --> 01:22:11,280
Yes, then we throw the paper
and pass to the next person.
1276
01:22:11,280 --> 01:22:15,240
And am I right in saying that
the cosmic point is not an object,
1277
01:22:15,240 --> 01:22:18,280
but a proposition
about space and time?
1278
01:22:20,120 --> 01:22:22,800
GIGGLING
1279
01:22:22,800 --> 01:22:26,320
OK, so, shall I read them out?
1280
01:22:26,320 --> 01:22:29,720
I've done two because
I couldn't decide. Yes.
1281
01:22:29,720 --> 01:22:33,480
A dot, a prism, an octave.
1282
01:22:33,480 --> 01:22:35,200
HE LAUGHS
1283
01:22:35,200 --> 01:22:37,040
A concrete poem.
1284
01:22:38,280 --> 01:22:40,720
Do you think perhaps we've written
the same thing?
1285
01:23:02,960 --> 01:23:06,080
CHORAL SINGING
1286
01:23:46,000 --> 01:23:48,280
NEWSREEL: I condemn all
contraception...
1287
01:23:48,280 --> 01:23:51,520
Euro pollution control
has failed to neutralise its...
1288
01:23:56,400 --> 01:24:00,520
OVERLAPPING POP SONGS PLAY
1289
01:24:04,960 --> 01:24:07,800
Let me read it to you,
it's quite funny.
1290
01:24:07,800 --> 01:24:10,480
"Delia Derbyshire,
who battled depression..."
1291
01:24:10,480 --> 01:24:12,760
Did I? Golly, maybe I did.
1292
01:24:12,760 --> 01:24:16,480
"Died aged only 64 in 2001."
1293
01:24:16,480 --> 01:24:18,840
Yes. That was a shame.
1294
01:24:18,840 --> 01:24:22,080
"She was the godmother of
electronic dance music."
1295
01:24:22,080 --> 01:24:25,320
No idea about any of that.
Sounds good, doesn't it?
1296
01:24:25,320 --> 01:24:27,160
"A hopeless alcoholic."
1297
01:24:27,160 --> 01:24:30,040
Actually, I was rather
a successful alcoholic.
1298
01:24:30,040 --> 01:24:33,280
Who writes this stuff?
Really, honestly.
1299
01:24:33,280 --> 01:24:37,200
"She carried out pioneering work
for the BBC Radiophonic Workshop
1300
01:24:37,200 --> 01:24:38,560
"in the early 1960s,
1301
01:24:38,560 --> 01:24:42,200
"producing the familiar Doctor Who
signature theme."
1302
01:24:42,200 --> 01:24:44,720
Will they ever stop
going on about that?
1303
01:24:44,720 --> 01:24:48,280
I very much doubt it.
"And collaborating with Brian Jones
1304
01:24:48,280 --> 01:24:50,200
"and Jimi Hendrix and others."
1305
01:24:50,200 --> 01:24:53,840
Hardly! I glimpsed Jimi once
and had a chat with Brian.
1306
01:24:53,840 --> 01:24:57,440
Oh, I loved him and his frilly
cuffs, but who didn't.
1307
01:24:57,440 --> 01:25:00,240
"Miss Derbyshire was also
a woman of her times,
1308
01:25:00,240 --> 01:25:03,640
"clad in Biba" - never
- "and Mary Quant."
1309
01:25:03,640 --> 01:25:05,320
What, on my wages?
1310
01:25:05,320 --> 01:25:08,600
"Her hair in a Vidal Sassoon bob."
Wrong.
1311
01:25:08,600 --> 01:25:12,640
Too busy for hairstyles. "A fixture
of parties of swinging London."
1312
01:25:12,640 --> 01:25:14,880
Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
1313
01:25:14,880 --> 01:25:18,560
Here we go.
Now, this is why I'm here, you see.
1314
01:25:18,560 --> 01:25:22,200
"She left the BBC
a disillusioned woman."
1315
01:25:22,200 --> 01:25:23,880
No, I didn't.
1316
01:25:23,880 --> 01:25:25,480
"She struggled with drink."
1317
01:25:25,480 --> 01:25:28,000
It was never a struggle,
always a pleasure.
1318
01:25:28,000 --> 01:25:30,160
"Had a series of unsuitable jobs."
1319
01:25:30,160 --> 01:25:32,560
I had some lovely ones,
as a matter of fact.
1320
01:25:32,560 --> 01:25:35,200
"At one time, she married
an out-of-work miner."
1321
01:25:35,200 --> 01:25:37,080
It was a blip,
and he wasn't a miner.
1322
01:25:37,080 --> 01:25:41,440
"But settled in the Midlands where
she lived in relative obscurity
1323
01:25:41,440 --> 01:25:43,800
"and would rail between drinks."
SHE LAUGHS
1324
01:25:43,800 --> 01:25:45,120
Wrong!
1325
01:25:47,160 --> 01:25:49,240
Golly, am I glad I came back.
1326
01:25:51,040 --> 01:25:52,680
Otherwise...
1327
01:25:52,680 --> 01:25:54,680
..who designs the myths?
1328
01:25:54,680 --> 01:26:02,000
MUSIC: Circle of Light by Delia
Derbyshire and Elsa Stansfield
1329
01:26:26,600 --> 01:26:29,840
The sun starts to emerge.
1330
01:27:44,960 --> 01:27:50,840
It's only now that in perspective
that people are saying...
1331
01:27:52,400 --> 01:27:54,320
..how important it was.
1332
01:27:56,800 --> 01:28:02,040
But for the kids! I mean,
just for the children, like you.
1333
01:28:21,480 --> 01:28:26,800
MUSIC: Circle of Light by
Delia Derbyshire and Elsa Stansfield
1334
01:29:39,360 --> 01:29:45,160
Egypt, reel three and one closing!
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