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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,084 --> 00:00:03,054 [announcer] The Star Trek USS Enterprise gift set with command chair, 2 00:00:03,129 --> 00:00:06,879 console, three telescreen cards, and five Star Trek action figures. 3 00:00:06,966 --> 00:00:09,256 [Gates McFadden] Years after its cancelation, 4 00:00:09,343 --> 00:00:11,683 the only new Star Trek characters on TV 5 00:00:11,762 --> 00:00:14,642 were about six inches tall and made of plastic. 6 00:00:14,724 --> 00:00:16,774 [announcer] Star Trek action figures also sold separately. 7 00:00:16,851 --> 00:00:18,271 [McFadden] With no new series, 8 00:00:18,352 --> 00:00:23,152 Gene Roddenberry could only watch as other people got rich off his idea. 9 00:00:23,232 --> 00:00:25,992 They sold $12 million worth of toys the first year, 10 00:00:26,068 --> 00:00:30,358 on a toy line of a television show that was off the air for half a decade. 11 00:00:30,448 --> 00:00:33,028 [McFadden] Desperate, Gene went cap in hand to Paramount, 12 00:00:33,117 --> 00:00:35,367 looking for a piece of the action, but instead... 13 00:00:35,453 --> 00:00:38,543 They said, "For 150,000, why don't you just buy everything?" 14 00:00:38,622 --> 00:00:42,212 [McFadden] A good deal for a franchise that's now worth $4 billion dollars. 15 00:00:42,293 --> 00:00:45,053 [Larry Nemecek] He could've been the George Lucas of Star Trek, 16 00:00:45,129 --> 00:00:47,129 but right at that time, he couldn't come up with the cash. 17 00:00:47,214 --> 00:00:49,514 [McFadden] But don't worry, help is on the way. 18 00:00:49,592 --> 00:00:52,052 Somebody's gotta write the goddamn script. 19 00:00:52,136 --> 00:00:53,256 [McFadden] Sort of. 20 00:00:55,055 --> 00:00:57,595 So beam aboard and hold on tight 21 00:00:57,683 --> 00:01:01,813 as we boldly go into the depths of Star Trek. 22 00:01:03,898 --> 00:01:08,568 And you can see it all from here in The Center Seat. 23 00:01:12,406 --> 00:01:16,786 Unable to come up with that cash, Gene looked to create another cash cow 24 00:01:16,869 --> 00:01:18,869 in the form of sci-fi pilots. 25 00:01:20,122 --> 00:01:22,542 Pumping them out one after the other. 26 00:01:22,625 --> 00:01:25,495 Phasers set to stun and jumpsuits set to kill. 27 00:01:25,586 --> 00:01:27,336 That thing is from your century? 28 00:01:27,421 --> 00:01:29,301 Yeah, we call them automobiles. 29 00:01:29,381 --> 00:01:31,631 [McFadden] But no matter how fetching the jumpsuits, 30 00:01:31,717 --> 00:01:34,007 nothing fit quite like Star Trek. 31 00:01:34,094 --> 00:01:36,064 The reruns were doing gangbusters. 32 00:01:36,138 --> 00:01:37,388 It went into syndication. 33 00:01:37,473 --> 00:01:39,433 They kept running it and kept running it and kept running it. 34 00:01:39,517 --> 00:01:43,807 So we watched that show all the time because it was on. 35 00:01:43,896 --> 00:01:48,816 I grew up watching the original series and, you know, reruns whenever it was on. 36 00:01:48,901 --> 00:01:50,991 Come home from school, you watched Star Trek. 37 00:01:51,070 --> 00:01:53,780 It was a perfect sales demographic. 38 00:01:53,864 --> 00:01:58,994 It was a show that appealed to 18-49, and they just ate it up. 39 00:01:59,078 --> 00:02:01,748 [McFadden] The networks were crying out for new Star Trek, 40 00:02:01,831 --> 00:02:05,001 but the show had already been consigned to history. 41 00:02:05,084 --> 00:02:07,004 Because they had destroyed the sets, 42 00:02:07,086 --> 00:02:10,206 they had given away the Enterprise to the Smithsonian Institute. 43 00:02:10,297 --> 00:02:14,177 [McFadden] But Paramount could no longer ignore the show's growing legion of fans. 44 00:02:14,260 --> 00:02:17,050 [Marc Cushman] It's everywhere. Fan fiction, books, it's just selling. 45 00:02:17,137 --> 00:02:18,807 The merchandising is selling. 46 00:02:18,889 --> 00:02:21,349 So they finally said, "Okay, let's do a Star Trek movie." 47 00:02:21,433 --> 00:02:22,813 [McFadden] Well, that was easy. 48 00:02:22,893 --> 00:02:26,863 The idea that a dead TV series would come back as a movie 49 00:02:26,939 --> 00:02:29,979 because the fandom demanded it, that was revolutionary. 50 00:02:30,067 --> 00:02:32,397 [McFadden] But for Gene, it was an opportunity, 51 00:02:32,486 --> 00:02:34,356 or even an answered prayer. 52 00:02:34,446 --> 00:02:37,736 So he wrote a feature film script entitled The God Thing. 53 00:02:37,825 --> 00:02:41,155 In which Kirk fights Jesus on the bridge of the Enterprise. 54 00:02:41,245 --> 00:02:44,115 Which involved the crew of the Enterprise, in essence, 55 00:02:44,206 --> 00:02:47,376 meeting what is perceived to be a god but not being God. 56 00:02:47,459 --> 00:02:49,419 [McFadden] But this wasn't to be God's chosen script 57 00:02:49,503 --> 00:02:53,173 because in 1974, The God Thing wasn't a thing. 58 00:02:53,257 --> 00:02:54,927 Barry Diller, who was running Paramount, was Catholic, 59 00:02:55,009 --> 00:02:58,429 and this script dealt with religion, and so he was bothered by it. 60 00:02:58,512 --> 00:03:01,472 [McFadden] But Gene wasn't the only one to pull up a pew, 61 00:03:01,557 --> 00:03:04,057 and another script had caught Paramount's eye. 62 00:03:04,143 --> 00:03:06,273 Called Star Trek: Planet of the Titans, 63 00:03:06,353 --> 00:03:09,773 a planet that the Klingons, the Federation, 64 00:03:09,857 --> 00:03:12,027 and a new alien race that was being introduced 65 00:03:12,109 --> 00:03:13,819 were trying to develop. 66 00:03:13,903 --> 00:03:15,823 Several versions of the script were written. 67 00:03:15,905 --> 00:03:18,155 [McFadden] And Gene didn't like any of them. 68 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:21,330 He keeps having to tell them that everything they wrote is not Star Trek. 69 00:03:21,410 --> 00:03:24,290 The characters aren't right. The Federation's not right. 70 00:03:24,371 --> 00:03:25,661 The starship's not right. 71 00:03:25,748 --> 00:03:27,578 "Have you seen any of the episodes, guys?" 72 00:03:27,666 --> 00:03:31,126 There were about a dozen scripts that were written 73 00:03:31,211 --> 00:03:32,461 that were never produced. 74 00:03:32,546 --> 00:03:35,876 [McFadden] After two years of false starts aiming for the silver screen, 75 00:03:35,966 --> 00:03:40,676 Paramount gave up, deciding it was now time to return to the small screen. 76 00:03:40,763 --> 00:03:43,393 Paramount decided, "Let's do what we know how to do." 77 00:03:43,474 --> 00:03:44,524 [McFadden] Uh, make movies? 78 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:47,140 "Let Gene make another TV series on Star Trek." 79 00:03:47,227 --> 00:03:49,187 [McFadden] So no movies, then? 80 00:03:49,271 --> 00:03:51,231 Which isn't as odd as it sounds 81 00:03:51,315 --> 00:03:55,605 because Paramount did have big plans to make content for the small screen. 82 00:03:55,694 --> 00:04:00,624 By the time you get to 1977, the only networks that existed 83 00:04:00,699 --> 00:04:04,539 in the United States were CBS, NBC, and ABC. 84 00:04:04,620 --> 00:04:08,460 Paramount decides it wants to try its hand at a fourth network. 85 00:04:08,540 --> 00:04:10,880 Now, you know, a decade before Fox, 86 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:13,590 here's Paramount trying to add to the Big Three. 87 00:04:13,671 --> 00:04:17,421 Star Trek was going to be the flagship of that network. 88 00:04:17,508 --> 00:04:20,218 They realize what their strength is, and they're gonna lead with that. 89 00:04:20,302 --> 00:04:23,262 [McFadden] They thought they needed TV people to make a TV show, 90 00:04:23,347 --> 00:04:25,517 and that's why this man entered the fray. 91 00:04:25,599 --> 00:04:27,269 I'm Harold Livingston. 92 00:04:27,351 --> 00:04:30,981 [McFadden] Harold was hired to produce Paramount's new Star Trek TV show 93 00:04:31,063 --> 00:04:32,563 called Phase II. 94 00:04:32,648 --> 00:04:35,478 All I know is Roddenberry called me in one day. 95 00:04:35,567 --> 00:04:37,187 They offered me this job. 96 00:04:37,277 --> 00:04:41,117 [McFadden] Harold had just one sci-fi credit, but it was a doozy. 97 00:04:41,198 --> 00:04:45,408 I was the story editor on a show called Future Cop. 98 00:04:45,494 --> 00:04:46,664 [McFadden] But now he'd be the writer 99 00:04:46,745 --> 00:04:50,785 for this perfectly named second Star Trek series, Phase II. 100 00:04:50,874 --> 00:04:54,174 We were going to do 13 one-hour episodes. 101 00:04:54,253 --> 00:04:56,673 [McFadden] There was just one rather pointy problem. 102 00:04:56,755 --> 00:04:59,085 Spock was not going to be in Phase II. 103 00:04:59,174 --> 00:05:00,594 That, sir, is illogical. 104 00:05:00,676 --> 00:05:02,216 [McFadden] It was all to do with differences 105 00:05:02,302 --> 00:05:04,762 regarding a chocolate breakfast cereal. 106 00:05:04,847 --> 00:05:06,097 Mr. Spock! 107 00:05:06,181 --> 00:05:09,061 My search for something super chocolatey has led me here. 108 00:05:09,143 --> 00:05:12,563 They'd let Pebbles cereal have Fred and Barney wearing pointed hears 109 00:05:12,646 --> 00:05:14,686 and making quasi-Vulcan jokes. 110 00:05:14,773 --> 00:05:16,863 Fascinating! 111 00:05:16,942 --> 00:05:21,202 There had been legal disputes involving royalties from the series, 112 00:05:21,280 --> 00:05:24,660 involving the use of the actors' faces in merchandising. 113 00:05:24,742 --> 00:05:26,202 [McFadden] Nimoy refused to sign on 114 00:05:26,285 --> 00:05:29,785 until the dispute over licensing his image was resolved. 115 00:05:29,872 --> 00:05:34,212 Ironically, the script he passed on was called In Thy Image. 116 00:05:34,293 --> 00:05:36,053 Everyone else is, "Yes, sign me up." 117 00:05:36,128 --> 00:05:39,208 [McFadden] And although the screenplay writing duties fell to Harold... 118 00:05:39,298 --> 00:05:42,428 The idea of the story came from Alan Dean Foster. 119 00:05:42,509 --> 00:05:46,259 Alan Dean Foster has been published in science-fiction magazines 120 00:05:46,346 --> 00:05:48,056 and has written science-fiction books. 121 00:05:48,140 --> 00:05:54,060 He also wrote the novelization books based on the animated Star Trek series. 122 00:05:54,146 --> 00:05:55,016 Fascinating. 123 00:05:55,105 --> 00:05:57,225 [McFadden] Well, hopefully, Harold would make it so 124 00:05:57,316 --> 00:05:59,226 as he began working on the script. 125 00:05:59,318 --> 00:06:03,028 I went home and locked the doors and wrote this script. 126 00:06:03,113 --> 00:06:03,953 [McFadden] And what a script. 127 00:06:04,031 --> 00:06:05,741 [John Tenuto] There's a supreme intelligence 128 00:06:05,824 --> 00:06:08,334 on its way to Earth to meet its creator. 129 00:06:08,410 --> 00:06:10,370 The Enterprise is sent to intercept it. 130 00:06:10,454 --> 00:06:12,874 [McFadden] But then, another supreme intelligence 131 00:06:12,956 --> 00:06:14,536 intercepted Harold's script. 132 00:06:14,625 --> 00:06:19,795 Roddenberry, he said, "All right, you've done your job, now I'll do mine." 133 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:22,420 And Gene Roddenberry rewrote Harold's script. 134 00:06:22,508 --> 00:06:25,968 It was about 40 pages longer and very poor. 135 00:06:26,053 --> 00:06:26,893 Just dreadful. 136 00:06:26,970 --> 00:06:29,720 [McFadden] Possibly because Gene had replaced his beloved Spock 137 00:06:29,807 --> 00:06:31,727 with an inferior facsimile. 138 00:06:31,809 --> 00:06:34,899 The character of Xon was a full Vulcan 139 00:06:34,978 --> 00:06:38,228 but wanted to be on a mostly human ship 140 00:06:38,315 --> 00:06:41,935 because he wanted to explore the human element more. 141 00:06:42,027 --> 00:06:45,067 [McFadden] The man lined up to replace Spock wasn't from Vulcan, 142 00:06:45,155 --> 00:06:47,065 he was the man from Atlantis. 143 00:06:47,157 --> 00:06:50,787 Oh, not the Man from Atlantis, a different one. 144 00:06:50,869 --> 00:06:54,619 My list of credits, other than the theater plays that I'd done, 145 00:06:54,706 --> 00:06:56,326 was the Man from Atlantis. 146 00:06:56,416 --> 00:06:59,746 Oh. Pass freely. I haven't the heart. 147 00:06:59,837 --> 00:07:01,917 [McFadden] It was just a humble guest spot, 148 00:07:02,005 --> 00:07:03,295 but it led to this. 149 00:07:04,424 --> 00:07:06,144 Will Decker. 150 00:07:06,218 --> 00:07:07,048 How do you do, sir? 151 00:07:07,136 --> 00:07:08,466 [McFadden] With so little experience, 152 00:07:08,554 --> 00:07:11,224 David was brought in for a full makeup screen test, 153 00:07:11,306 --> 00:07:13,096 to see if he had the chops... 154 00:07:13,183 --> 00:07:14,773 Lieutenant, you're erasing those tapes. 155 00:07:14,852 --> 00:07:16,812 [McFadden] ...and the ears for the role. 156 00:07:16,895 --> 00:07:20,105 Sir, if I am to function efficiently as science officer, 157 00:07:20,190 --> 00:07:23,610 I must become intimately familiar with each circuit in this system. 158 00:07:23,694 --> 00:07:24,954 Carry on. 159 00:07:25,028 --> 00:07:26,908 Thank you, sir. I will. 160 00:07:26,989 --> 00:07:29,949 [McFadden] But just as the new kid was about to be cast, 161 00:07:30,033 --> 00:07:31,833 a new kid on the block arrived for sci-fi, 162 00:07:31,910 --> 00:07:35,000 and he had people queuing around the block for his movie. 163 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:40,630 Mr. Roddenberry told me that he was very wistful one day in 1977 164 00:07:40,711 --> 00:07:42,961 when he drove by the theater 165 00:07:43,046 --> 00:07:47,256 and saw the long line around the block for Star Wars, 166 00:07:47,342 --> 00:07:51,222 wishing that it could have been for a Star Trek film. 167 00:07:51,305 --> 00:07:54,015 [McFadden] Even if Paramount was having second thoughts 168 00:07:54,099 --> 00:07:58,479 about doing TV instead of a movie, it was too late to change course. 169 00:07:58,562 --> 00:08:01,572 When Star Wars became a hit, they didn't wanna do a movie 170 00:08:01,648 --> 00:08:03,278 because they said, "Now it's been done. 171 00:08:03,358 --> 00:08:05,568 Who needs another? It's a one-time thing." 172 00:08:05,652 --> 00:08:07,912 [McFadden] Well, then a TV series it is. 173 00:08:07,988 --> 00:08:10,408 Well, that's the real trick, isn't it? 174 00:08:10,490 --> 00:08:11,950 [McFadden] Actually, yes, 175 00:08:12,034 --> 00:08:15,334 because Paramount's plan to turn on a fourth network 176 00:08:15,412 --> 00:08:16,832 was about to be turned off. 177 00:08:16,914 --> 00:08:20,834 Because no one wanted to really commit the dollars for a fourth network. 178 00:08:20,918 --> 00:08:23,048 [McFadden] The TV network was faltering, 179 00:08:23,128 --> 00:08:26,218 and if Paramount thought George Lucas was a one-trick pony... 180 00:08:26,298 --> 00:08:28,128 They didn't think there'd be sequels to Star Wars. 181 00:08:28,217 --> 00:08:29,717 They didn't think there'd be Close Encounters. 182 00:08:29,801 --> 00:08:31,471 I wanna speak to someone in charge! 183 00:08:31,553 --> 00:08:33,813 [McFadden] Along came a film whose dazzling lights 184 00:08:33,889 --> 00:08:37,309 proved just how hypnotic science fiction at the movies could be. 185 00:08:37,392 --> 00:08:39,812 [musical tones playing] 186 00:08:39,895 --> 00:08:42,015 [McFadden] There was no denying it, 187 00:08:42,105 --> 00:08:45,025 the big money in sci-fi was moving to the big screen. 188 00:08:45,108 --> 00:08:47,648 After seeing Close Encounter's success, 189 00:08:47,736 --> 00:08:50,656 Paramount executives called David Gautreaux to their offices 190 00:08:50,739 --> 00:08:53,159 for a close encounter of their own kind. 191 00:08:53,242 --> 00:08:55,492 I'm brought right up to Gene Roddenberry's office now. 192 00:08:55,577 --> 00:09:00,037 I'm in a big room, a lovely office, and there's a lot of men in this room. 193 00:09:00,123 --> 00:09:02,673 [McFadden] Including Paramount's top brass. 194 00:09:02,751 --> 00:09:05,091 [David Gautreaux] There was Jeffrey Katzenberg and Michael Eisner, 195 00:09:05,170 --> 00:09:07,630 and there's Gene, and he's got a drink in his hand, 196 00:09:07,714 --> 00:09:09,134 and he's offering me, "What would you like, David?" 197 00:09:09,216 --> 00:09:11,636 I go, "Well, I happen to like bourbon." "Pour David a bourbon." 198 00:09:11,718 --> 00:09:14,298 So Gene is really the master of ceremonies for this. 199 00:09:14,388 --> 00:09:16,718 And so it was two things going on at the same time. 200 00:09:16,807 --> 00:09:21,977 "David, congratulations, you are our Xon. Hurrah!" 201 00:09:22,062 --> 00:09:24,272 A big toast. I'm so happy I'm standing there. 202 00:09:24,356 --> 00:09:27,526 "Now we have another announcement we wanted to make with all of you here. 203 00:09:27,609 --> 00:09:30,069 We're going to be a motion picture!" 204 00:09:30,153 --> 00:09:33,493 [McFadden] So not a TV show, a movie, again. 205 00:09:33,573 --> 00:09:34,913 "Huzzah!" 206 00:09:34,992 --> 00:09:39,622 [McFadden] And so now all they had to do was repurpose Harold's pilot... 207 00:09:39,705 --> 00:09:40,535 [coughs] 208 00:09:40,622 --> 00:09:43,832 [McFadden] ...that had been repurposed by Gene for the big screen. 209 00:09:43,917 --> 00:09:45,457 So we all go and we read it. 210 00:09:45,544 --> 00:09:49,514 And he's sitting there, he had a desk that was about two feet higher 211 00:09:49,589 --> 00:09:52,339 so he looked down on you like Mussolini. 212 00:09:52,426 --> 00:09:56,716 He had this grin on his face, expectantly. "What'd you think?" 213 00:09:56,805 --> 00:09:58,845 So I said, "Gene, it is shit." 214 00:09:58,932 --> 00:10:00,812 And the grin fades. 215 00:10:00,892 --> 00:10:03,852 We had a few words, and he got a little angry. 216 00:10:03,937 --> 00:10:05,477 "Well, we'll let the studio decide!" 217 00:10:05,564 --> 00:10:08,694 [McFadden] That gave studio head Michael Eisner the deciding vote 218 00:10:08,775 --> 00:10:12,025 between Gene's rewrite or Harold's original pilot. 219 00:10:12,112 --> 00:10:15,952 He says, "This is a good script, Gene, but it's a television script." 220 00:10:16,033 --> 00:10:17,783 He says, "Harold's is a movie." 221 00:10:19,036 --> 00:10:20,536 I though Gene was gonna faint. 222 00:10:24,249 --> 00:10:28,129 [McFadden] By the mid-1970s, it seemed Star Trek the TV series 223 00:10:28,211 --> 00:10:30,381 was suffering an identity crisis. 224 00:10:30,464 --> 00:10:33,184 What was always meant to be a TV series became... 225 00:10:33,258 --> 00:10:35,718 The movie that was a movie, but then it was a TV show, 226 00:10:35,802 --> 00:10:37,222 but then it was a movie again. 227 00:10:37,304 --> 00:10:40,314 [McFadden] Nearly everyone had lost track of the trek until... 228 00:10:40,390 --> 00:10:43,940 The decision is made to take In Thy Image and turn it into a motion picture. 229 00:10:44,019 --> 00:10:46,769 The pilot that we were commissioned to do 230 00:10:46,855 --> 00:10:49,895 is being morphed into a major motion picture. 231 00:10:49,983 --> 00:10:53,573 [McFadden] And in more ways than one, Paramount was shooting for the stars. 232 00:10:53,653 --> 00:10:56,243 They were aspiring to do 2001. 233 00:10:56,323 --> 00:10:58,163 [Dr. Dave Bowman] Open the pod bay doors, please, HAL. 234 00:10:58,241 --> 00:11:01,371 [McFadden] George Lucas had shown sci-fi could pull a crowd, 235 00:11:01,453 --> 00:11:04,003 but Paramount didn't think movies were the way to keep them. 236 00:11:04,081 --> 00:11:07,291 People think Paramount said, "Oh, we gotta have a movie like Star Wars." 237 00:11:07,376 --> 00:11:09,126 And it's gonna cost you something extra. 238 00:11:09,211 --> 00:11:12,211 [Cushman] The reality was Star Wars had very little to do with it. 239 00:11:12,297 --> 00:11:16,007 Science fiction was not by any stretch of the imagination a guaranteed thing 240 00:11:16,093 --> 00:11:17,893 just because Star Wars had been successful. 241 00:11:17,969 --> 00:11:23,229 The concept of a sustained, profitable, growing science-fiction franchise 242 00:11:23,308 --> 00:11:24,938 had never really existed before. 243 00:11:25,018 --> 00:11:28,768 [McFadden] So Paramount planned to make one and one movie only. 244 00:11:28,855 --> 00:11:32,145 "With big money, big box office, no reason to every make a second one. 245 00:11:32,234 --> 00:11:35,154 The fans will never come out to watch a second Star Trek movie. 246 00:11:35,237 --> 00:11:36,777 And then we'll launch our network, 247 00:11:36,863 --> 00:11:40,283 and then doing the series off of the strength of the movie." 248 00:11:40,367 --> 00:11:42,697 [McFadden] But no matter how much Paramount said, 249 00:11:42,786 --> 00:11:46,456 "May the fourth network be with you," it never would be. 250 00:11:46,540 --> 00:11:47,960 But in any case... 251 00:11:48,041 --> 00:11:51,591 You still have a lot of money that has been invested. 252 00:11:51,670 --> 00:11:55,590 [McFadden] The studio's Star Trek project resembled a real-life space program, 253 00:11:55,674 --> 00:12:00,804 and felt almost as costly with sets, props, and even a brand-new spaceship. 254 00:12:00,887 --> 00:12:03,467 An entire overhaul and update of the Enterprise itself. 255 00:12:03,557 --> 00:12:05,477 [McFadden] They had a new ship for a new production, 256 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:08,439 but who would captain this risky mission? 257 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:09,350 Robert Wise. 258 00:12:09,438 --> 00:12:12,268 [McFadden] Paramount thought veteran director Robert wise 259 00:12:12,357 --> 00:12:14,187 would be a safe pair of hands. 260 00:12:14,276 --> 00:12:19,816 Robert Wise was the first and only director on the list considered. 261 00:12:19,906 --> 00:12:22,276 [McFadden] Wise couldn't make a flop if he tried, 262 00:12:22,367 --> 00:12:24,487 not after this song and dance. 263 00:12:24,578 --> 00:12:25,408 West Side Story. 264 00:12:25,495 --> 00:12:27,495 This is the guy who made The Sound of Music. 265 00:12:27,581 --> 00:12:29,541 [McFadden] And he knew sci-fi from way back 266 00:12:29,624 --> 00:12:32,344 when it was lasers, not phasers. 267 00:12:32,419 --> 00:12:34,499 He had done a classic science-fiction movie 268 00:12:34,588 --> 00:12:36,298 called The Day the Earth Stood Still. 269 00:12:39,885 --> 00:12:43,425 Which is still regarded as one of the greatest science-fiction movies ever made. 270 00:12:43,513 --> 00:12:46,523 [McFadden] The pieces were falling into place for Paramount, 271 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:49,560 but there was still something, or someone, missing. 272 00:12:49,644 --> 00:12:52,774 Mr. Nimoy was still not involved in the project. 273 00:12:52,856 --> 00:12:56,316 Robert Wise, he agreed to do the film. 274 00:12:56,401 --> 00:12:59,951 His wife was a Trekker and her son was a Trekker, 275 00:13:00,030 --> 00:13:03,490 and they told him, "It's crazy to do it without Spock. 276 00:13:03,575 --> 00:13:05,325 It'd be like doing it without Kirk." 277 00:13:05,410 --> 00:13:10,370 And so Wise went to Paramount and said exactly what they had told him 278 00:13:10,457 --> 00:13:13,287 and said, "There's got to be a way that we can get him." 279 00:13:13,376 --> 00:13:16,126 [McFadden] Scheduling conflicts and a bigger conflict 280 00:13:16,213 --> 00:13:19,673 over licensing and royalties had taken it down to the wire. 281 00:13:19,758 --> 00:13:24,928 Days before the press conference to announce Star Trek: The Motion Picture, 282 00:13:25,013 --> 00:13:28,103 all of those issues were quickly resolved, 283 00:13:28,183 --> 00:13:30,023 and Leonard Nimoy came on board. 284 00:13:30,101 --> 00:13:31,941 Science Officer Spock, 285 00:13:32,020 --> 00:13:33,520 reporting as ordered, Captain. 286 00:13:33,605 --> 00:13:36,145 [McFadden] The movie was announced to huge fanfare. 287 00:13:36,233 --> 00:13:39,153 Leonard Nimoy was already getting into character, 288 00:13:39,236 --> 00:13:42,656 and when asked why it had taken him so long to confirm... 289 00:13:42,739 --> 00:13:44,869 And probably the thing that took the most time was the fact 290 00:13:44,950 --> 00:13:48,660 that the mail service between here and Vulcan is still pretty slow. 291 00:13:48,745 --> 00:13:50,455 [audience laughs] 292 00:13:50,539 --> 00:13:53,119 [McFadden] But Paramount still had a mountain to climb. 293 00:13:53,208 --> 00:13:58,048 Since Star Trek last took to the airwaves, science fiction had gotten real. 294 00:13:58,129 --> 00:14:02,009 Now audiences are expecting Star Wars-level and Close Encounters-level 295 00:14:02,092 --> 00:14:03,132 quality special effects. 296 00:14:03,218 --> 00:14:05,388 [musical tones playing] 297 00:14:05,470 --> 00:14:08,930 [McFadden] Aggressive presales had also painted Paramount into a corner, 298 00:14:09,015 --> 00:14:11,175 with a terrifyingly close release date. 299 00:14:11,268 --> 00:14:15,808 The distributors were promised that there would be a Star Trek movie 300 00:14:15,897 --> 00:14:20,237 that they could show in their theaters on December 7th, 1979. 301 00:14:20,318 --> 00:14:24,278 They had penalty contracts where if they could not deliver this movie by the 7th, 302 00:14:24,364 --> 00:14:26,664 because these theaters are holding open the space for them, 303 00:14:26,741 --> 00:14:29,161 they were out the wazoo for millions of dollars. 304 00:14:29,244 --> 00:14:32,624 [Tenuto] So that only gives them 18 months, basically, 305 00:14:32,706 --> 00:14:36,286 to take what was a television show and turn it into a motion picture. 306 00:14:36,418 --> 00:14:39,128 [McFadden] At least they had a brilliantly inventive title. 307 00:14:39,212 --> 00:14:40,922 This motion picture would be called... 308 00:14:41,006 --> 00:14:42,086 Star Trek: The Motion Picture. 309 00:14:42,173 --> 00:14:43,013 [McFadden] Huh? 310 00:14:44,509 --> 00:14:47,219 [John Dykstra] The body politic that was making the movie went, 311 00:14:47,304 --> 00:14:49,854 "You better let everybody know that this is a motion picture, 312 00:14:49,931 --> 00:14:53,141 as opposed to an adapted TV show." 313 00:14:53,226 --> 00:14:56,346 [McFadden] The fact was this was an adaptation. 314 00:14:56,438 --> 00:15:00,228 [Tenuto] You had what was meant to be a teleplay for a TV show 315 00:15:00,317 --> 00:15:03,317 has to become a major motion picture for large screens. 316 00:15:03,403 --> 00:15:05,283 [McFadden] Which brings us back to Harold. 317 00:15:05,363 --> 00:15:07,823 Somebody's gotta write the goddamn script. 318 00:15:07,907 --> 00:15:10,827 There was a deadline looming. They had to start shooting. 319 00:15:10,910 --> 00:15:14,080 So Roddenberry invited Harold Livingston back. 320 00:15:14,164 --> 00:15:16,044 [McFadden] Harold's original script 321 00:15:16,124 --> 00:15:19,714 seemed to have gotten its DNA mixed up in the transporter. 322 00:15:19,794 --> 00:15:22,634 In fact, it had gained a whole new Gene. 323 00:15:22,714 --> 00:15:25,554 "In Thy Image, written by Gene Roddenberry." 324 00:15:25,634 --> 00:15:27,974 He took all the credit. He didn't share it. 325 00:15:28,053 --> 00:15:29,223 His name is on top. 326 00:15:29,304 --> 00:15:31,854 [McFadden] Harold felt his script was now a rewrite, 327 00:15:31,931 --> 00:15:33,101 and a write-off. 328 00:15:33,183 --> 00:15:35,733 So he decided to draw a line in the sand 329 00:15:35,810 --> 00:15:38,560 when meeting Roddenberry and director Bob Wise. 330 00:15:38,647 --> 00:15:40,317 [Harold Livingston] The first thing Wise says to me is, 331 00:15:40,398 --> 00:15:41,648 "What'd you think of the script?" 332 00:15:41,733 --> 00:15:45,573 I said, "What I think, Mr. Wise, is you ought to take cyanide. 333 00:15:45,654 --> 00:15:46,614 Total crap." 334 00:15:46,696 --> 00:15:48,736 And that one brought a big laugh. [laughs] 335 00:15:48,823 --> 00:15:50,913 So they asked me if I would rewrite it. 336 00:15:50,992 --> 00:15:54,952 I said, "I'll rewrite it as long as it is contractually agreed 337 00:15:55,038 --> 00:15:57,828 that Gene Roddenberry does not put word on paper." 338 00:15:57,916 --> 00:16:02,296 I mean, I hated him because he couldn't keep his fingers off a script. 339 00:16:02,379 --> 00:16:03,459 He had to rewrite everything. 340 00:16:03,546 --> 00:16:04,956 "Agreed." 341 00:16:05,048 --> 00:16:06,378 And they gave me a lot of money. 342 00:16:06,466 --> 00:16:08,216 [McFadden] Harold set about writing a script 343 00:16:08,301 --> 00:16:11,721 the whole franchise was riding on, safe in the knowledge 344 00:16:11,805 --> 00:16:14,515 that Gene Roddenberry would not have his way with it. 345 00:16:14,599 --> 00:16:18,099 [Livingston] I write a first draft, which Eisner wants to see. 346 00:16:18,186 --> 00:16:22,266 I give it to Gene's secretary to send to Eisner. 347 00:16:22,357 --> 00:16:24,147 About three days later, my phone rings. 348 00:16:24,234 --> 00:16:26,404 It's Eisner calling me from Paris. 349 00:16:26,486 --> 00:16:29,276 He said, "What kind of shit did you send me?" 350 00:16:29,364 --> 00:16:30,374 Honest to God. 351 00:16:30,448 --> 00:16:31,778 I said, "What are you talking about?" 352 00:16:31,866 --> 00:16:34,866 I said it was a good script. I said Bob liked it. 353 00:16:34,953 --> 00:16:37,373 He said, "Nobody could like this crap." 354 00:16:37,455 --> 00:16:41,575 We find out what happened was I gave the script to Gene's secretary, 355 00:16:41,668 --> 00:16:45,258 and she sent Gene's rewrite to Eisner in Paris. 356 00:16:45,338 --> 00:16:46,918 [McFadden] You can't write this stuff, 357 00:16:47,006 --> 00:16:49,966 which is why director Bob Wise was amazed. 358 00:16:50,051 --> 00:16:52,141 Wise said to me, direct quote, 359 00:16:52,220 --> 00:16:55,180 "Harold, I've been in this business for 40 years, 360 00:16:55,265 --> 00:16:57,975 and I've never had an experience like this." 361 00:16:58,059 --> 00:16:59,599 [McFadden] Not for the first time, 362 00:16:59,686 --> 00:17:03,056 Star Trek, the fourth iteration was back to square one. 363 00:17:03,148 --> 00:17:06,608 We threw Gene's rewrite out and went back to what I did. 364 00:17:09,946 --> 00:17:12,066 [McFadden] The signing of Leonard Nimoy as Spock 365 00:17:12,157 --> 00:17:15,657 had Star Trek: The Motion Picture headed in the right direction... 366 00:17:15,744 --> 00:17:18,164 Well, so help me, I'm actually pleased to see you. 367 00:17:18,246 --> 00:17:21,286 [McFadden] ...and Paramount breathing a sigh of relief. 368 00:17:21,374 --> 00:17:23,464 [Tenuto] Because we're not gonna risk Star Trek property 369 00:17:23,543 --> 00:17:26,593 that doesn't have its most recognizable and one of the most popular, 370 00:17:26,671 --> 00:17:28,381 if not the most popular character. 371 00:17:28,465 --> 00:17:31,885 [McFadden] But Spock's return was still throwing a wrench in the works. 372 00:17:31,968 --> 00:17:34,678 In essence, you have to write Spock into the movie, right? 373 00:17:34,763 --> 00:17:36,473 He wasn't even in In Thy Image. 374 00:17:36,556 --> 00:17:38,386 [McFadden] What was good for Leonard Nimoy 375 00:17:38,475 --> 00:17:40,725 was not so good for David Gautreaux. 376 00:17:40,810 --> 00:17:42,900 [Will Decker] Are you trying to tell me all that work was done for nothing? 377 00:17:42,979 --> 00:17:44,899 That is the logical conclusion, sir. 378 00:17:44,981 --> 00:17:48,231 [McFadden] Whose Johnny-come-lately Vulcan character, Xon, 379 00:17:48,318 --> 00:17:50,148 was suddenly on the chopping block. 380 00:17:50,236 --> 00:17:53,106 Spock is vital to this core. 381 00:17:53,198 --> 00:17:54,658 [McFadden] And knowing Xon wasn't, 382 00:17:54,741 --> 00:17:56,871 David met with Gene for reassurance. 383 00:17:56,951 --> 00:17:59,911 [Gautreaux] And he gave me a thousand assurances. 384 00:17:59,996 --> 00:18:03,666 "We're definitely, definitely, definitely, we're building this to go into series." 385 00:18:03,750 --> 00:18:06,540 [McFadden] Executives insisted Xon was a Vulcan 386 00:18:06,628 --> 00:18:08,548 who would live long and prosper. 387 00:18:08,630 --> 00:18:12,630 "Xon is key to the future of this franchise." 388 00:18:13,551 --> 00:18:14,841 I went, "Okay." 389 00:18:14,928 --> 00:18:17,598 [McFadden] So all David had to worry about was learning his lines. 390 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:18,850 [Gautreaux] They send me the script. 391 00:18:18,932 --> 00:18:22,232 There is no Xon in the screenplay. 392 00:18:22,310 --> 00:18:25,730 And I realize, "Oh, it's over." 393 00:18:25,814 --> 00:18:28,784 [McFadden] Fortunately for David, another envelope arrived, 394 00:18:28,858 --> 00:18:32,238 and it contained the next best thing an actor can hope for. 395 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:35,320 "Here is your payoff. You're free." 396 00:18:35,406 --> 00:18:36,736 All in one gesture, 397 00:18:36,825 --> 00:18:42,285 and a very large check well above what the pilot figure was. 398 00:18:42,372 --> 00:18:45,542 I felt completely liberated. 399 00:18:45,625 --> 00:18:49,205 [McFadden] But Mr. Spock himself was feeling anything but relief 400 00:18:49,295 --> 00:18:51,545 over the Spock-versus-Xon debacle. 401 00:18:51,631 --> 00:18:53,841 So Nimoy summoned David to ask him... 402 00:18:53,925 --> 00:18:56,175 [imitating Leonard Nimoy] "How did it affect you 403 00:18:56,261 --> 00:19:01,181 when I took that role away from you?" 404 00:19:01,266 --> 00:19:03,306 [McFadden] For David, Nimoy's olive branch 405 00:19:03,393 --> 00:19:05,653 was compensation enough for his loss. 406 00:19:05,728 --> 00:19:08,398 I certainly never, ever once said, 407 00:19:08,481 --> 00:19:11,441 "That Nimoy guy coming back and taking my role." 408 00:19:11,526 --> 00:19:16,026 I never viewed it that way because... he's Spock. 409 00:19:16,114 --> 00:19:17,034 You are correct. 410 00:19:17,115 --> 00:19:20,075 [McFadden] And even by the standards of a Vulcan, this was... 411 00:19:20,159 --> 00:19:22,199 It was very human, very humane, 412 00:19:22,287 --> 00:19:24,537 that he would ask such a challenging question. 413 00:19:24,622 --> 00:19:27,542 [McFadden] And David still got to learn some lines for the movie. 414 00:19:27,625 --> 00:19:29,625 That's within Klingon boundaries. Who are they fighting? 415 00:19:29,711 --> 00:19:30,841 Unknown, sir. 416 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:34,920 They did say, "David, we'd like you to play Commander Branch." 417 00:19:35,008 --> 00:19:36,798 So I agreed. I played Commander Branch. 418 00:19:36,885 --> 00:19:39,635 [McFadden] Here he is commanding, albeit briefly. 419 00:19:39,721 --> 00:19:40,851 [alarm sounds] 420 00:19:40,930 --> 00:19:42,640 We are under attack! 421 00:19:42,724 --> 00:19:45,484 [McFadden] And while Xon, the new Vulcan didn't make it, 422 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:50,020 for the first time in nearly a decade, the original cast was tight again, 423 00:19:50,106 --> 00:19:51,686 like peas in a space pod. 424 00:19:51,774 --> 00:19:52,824 I appreciate the welcome. 425 00:19:52,901 --> 00:19:54,531 [McFadden] Including Mr. Chekov. 426 00:19:54,611 --> 00:19:55,451 Aye, sir. 427 00:19:55,528 --> 00:19:57,818 [McFadden] Walter Koenig finally came in from the cold 428 00:19:57,906 --> 00:20:00,156 after missing the animated series. 429 00:20:00,241 --> 00:20:02,661 I thought were in for a grand time. 430 00:20:02,744 --> 00:20:06,214 When we came back to do the first really big one that we did 431 00:20:06,289 --> 00:20:10,669 after being away so long, it was amazing! 432 00:20:10,752 --> 00:20:11,962 They're the same people. 433 00:20:12,045 --> 00:20:15,005 [McFadden] And there were mysterious new characters too, 434 00:20:15,089 --> 00:20:18,429 smuggled in from the original Phase II TV pilot. 435 00:20:18,509 --> 00:20:20,549 She's Deltan, Captain. 436 00:20:20,637 --> 00:20:23,557 [Tenuto] A Deltan, which was a new alien race. 437 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:25,310 Her species was bald. 438 00:20:25,391 --> 00:20:28,691 They possessed a pheromone that was something 439 00:20:28,770 --> 00:20:31,810 that humans just could not steel themselves against. 440 00:20:31,898 --> 00:20:34,568 [McFadden] Which was especially inconvenient for humans because... 441 00:20:34,651 --> 00:20:37,071 My oath of celibacy is on record, Captain. 442 00:20:37,153 --> 00:20:39,743 [McFadden] Lieutenant Ilia was played by a new face, 443 00:20:39,822 --> 00:20:44,122 and not just any face, Miss India 1965. 444 00:20:44,202 --> 00:20:47,662 Persis Khambatta was an exceptionally beautiful woman. 445 00:20:47,747 --> 00:20:50,667 [McFadden] It wasn't just her looks that set Persis apart. 446 00:20:50,750 --> 00:20:53,960 Unlike a lot of actors, she was willing to part with her hair. 447 00:20:54,045 --> 00:20:57,795 [McFadden] This was no simple matter of a few hours of makeup and a bald cap. 448 00:20:57,882 --> 00:21:03,352 Persis was prepared to go baldly where no Star Trek actress had gone before. 449 00:21:03,429 --> 00:21:05,639 There are really heartbreaking images of her crying 450 00:21:05,723 --> 00:21:08,523 while they were doing that, but that's how committed she was 451 00:21:08,601 --> 00:21:11,561 to playing the character and bringing an authenticity to the role. 452 00:21:11,646 --> 00:21:14,396 [McFadden] Also new, the character of Commander Decker. 453 00:21:14,482 --> 00:21:17,782 But actor Stephen Collins got to keep his locks. 454 00:21:17,860 --> 00:21:20,950 But getting the part was a bit of a close shave. 455 00:21:21,030 --> 00:21:24,620 Because at this point in his career, his biggest film role had been 456 00:21:24,701 --> 00:21:27,791 as one of the many men in All the President's Men. 457 00:21:27,870 --> 00:21:29,910 Now Stephen had a meaty role, 458 00:21:29,998 --> 00:21:33,328 playing a character with deep ties to Star Trek. 459 00:21:33,418 --> 00:21:36,458 Who's the son of Will Decker from "The Doomsday Machine" 460 00:21:36,546 --> 00:21:37,586 from the original series. 461 00:21:37,672 --> 00:21:40,172 Commodore Decker, you are relieved of command. 462 00:21:40,258 --> 00:21:43,178 [McFadden] The cast for the motion picture was in shipshape, 463 00:21:43,261 --> 00:21:45,891 but unfortunately the script wasn't. 464 00:21:45,972 --> 00:21:48,522 [Tenuto] It was not perfect because it had been rushed 465 00:21:48,599 --> 00:21:51,309 to convert In Thy Image to Star Trek: The Motion Picture. 466 00:21:51,394 --> 00:21:53,734 Ready or not, she launches in 12 hours. 467 00:21:53,813 --> 00:21:57,483 [McFadden] So much so that principal photography began in 1978 468 00:21:57,567 --> 00:21:59,817 before a script had even been finished. 469 00:21:59,902 --> 00:22:03,412 Paramount was also behind on commissioning special effects. 470 00:22:03,489 --> 00:22:05,159 [screams] 471 00:22:05,241 --> 00:22:07,991 [Cushman] They wanted to give it to Industrial Light & Magic, 472 00:22:08,077 --> 00:22:09,117 but they weren't available. 473 00:22:09,203 --> 00:22:10,793 [McFadden] Meaning there was a risk 474 00:22:10,872 --> 00:22:13,212 their special effects might not be so special. 475 00:22:13,291 --> 00:22:14,171 And so... 476 00:22:14,250 --> 00:22:17,380 Paramount hired Robert Abel and Associates. 477 00:22:17,462 --> 00:22:20,512 [McFadden] Which in movie circles was not an obvious choice. 478 00:22:20,590 --> 00:22:23,010 Had never done a movie. They were doing TV commercials. 479 00:22:23,092 --> 00:22:25,142 [announcer] Enough of this kissing, little registered mark. 480 00:22:25,219 --> 00:22:29,889 [McFadden] Not just any TV commercials, but effects-heavy extravaganzas. 481 00:22:29,974 --> 00:22:33,604 And they had just gotten a lot of attention for a 7UP TV commercial, 482 00:22:33,686 --> 00:22:35,476 which had a lot of effects in it. 483 00:22:35,563 --> 00:22:39,233 ♪ We see the light of 7UP ♪ 484 00:22:39,317 --> 00:22:42,067 [McFadden] While it was more soda than Yoda, 485 00:22:42,153 --> 00:22:44,863 it wasn't a million light years away from sci-fi. 486 00:22:44,947 --> 00:22:46,697 So Robert Abel was hired. 487 00:22:46,783 --> 00:22:49,243 To do all these mind-blowing special effects 488 00:22:49,327 --> 00:22:53,537 that are, in an industry perspective, having to compete with Star Wars. 489 00:22:53,623 --> 00:22:55,633 [McFadden] Desperate for fresh ideas, 490 00:22:55,708 --> 00:22:58,458 Robert Abel hired a hotshot young designer... 491 00:22:58,544 --> 00:23:02,764 I was recommended right out of school to work on Star Trek: The Motion Picture. 492 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:05,800 [McFadden] ...and gave him a suitably entry-level job to start. 493 00:23:05,885 --> 00:23:07,545 Build a whole new Enterprise. 494 00:23:07,637 --> 00:23:11,517 [McFadden] Completely redesign one of television's most iconic vehicles, 495 00:23:11,599 --> 00:23:12,599 and do it fast. 496 00:23:12,683 --> 00:23:15,483 The Enterprise had already been built, but it was too small. 497 00:23:15,561 --> 00:23:19,771 It was like six feet long. They decided on maybe a 10-foot model. 498 00:23:19,857 --> 00:23:23,437 [McFadden] For the big screen, Paramount needed a big ship. 499 00:23:23,528 --> 00:23:25,568 So the Enterprise was upsized. 500 00:23:25,655 --> 00:23:28,025 And they build this beautiful model. Huge. 501 00:23:28,116 --> 00:23:30,116 [Cushman] He rebuilt most of the miniatures. 502 00:23:30,201 --> 00:23:33,291 And the ones he didn't rebuild, he had to redesign in some way or another. 503 00:23:33,371 --> 00:23:36,871 [McFadden] But with the script still in flux and with shooting underway, 504 00:23:36,958 --> 00:23:39,498 who knew which of the new ships would even fly? 505 00:23:40,169 --> 00:23:42,419 They were rewriting that script as they were filming it. 506 00:23:42,505 --> 00:23:45,005 We were shooting without pages at times. 507 00:23:45,091 --> 00:23:47,301 [McFadden] None of this helped director Robert Wise, 508 00:23:47,385 --> 00:23:51,465 whose vast experience counted for little in the Star Trek universe. 509 00:23:51,556 --> 00:23:54,476 He did not know Star Trek, and he was at the mercy of people 510 00:23:54,559 --> 00:23:56,139 who said, "This is the way this should be done." 511 00:23:56,227 --> 00:23:59,517 [McFadden] And at the mercy of people pestering him for close-ups. 512 00:23:59,605 --> 00:24:05,065 Each time I tell this, I hope I tried to relieve myself 513 00:24:05,153 --> 00:24:07,363 of the embarrassment, the humiliation, 514 00:24:07,446 --> 00:24:10,656 the guilt that I felt at the time. 515 00:24:10,741 --> 00:24:14,411 [McFadden] A shocking burden that Walter carries with him to this day. 516 00:24:14,495 --> 00:24:16,955 We were shooting. It was very early in the shoot. 517 00:24:17,039 --> 00:24:20,079 And I went up to... 518 00:24:20,168 --> 00:24:23,918 I called him Mr. Wise from start to finish. 519 00:24:24,005 --> 00:24:29,295 I said, "Mr. Wise, are we gonna come back and do a close-up of Chekov?" 520 00:24:29,385 --> 00:24:33,005 [dramatic music playing] 521 00:24:36,184 --> 00:24:38,274 I can't. [laughs] 522 00:24:38,352 --> 00:24:41,402 He said to me, "Please don't. 523 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:44,360 Please don't talk about those actor things to me." 524 00:24:45,735 --> 00:24:48,645 Ugh. It destroyed me. 525 00:24:48,738 --> 00:24:51,528 I mean, he was absolutely right. Absolutely right. 526 00:24:51,616 --> 00:24:54,616 You know, I was thinking of me, me, me, me, me. 527 00:24:54,702 --> 00:24:56,122 [McFadden] You can't blame a guy for trying. 528 00:24:56,204 --> 00:24:57,164 [Walter Koenig] Me, me, me, me. 529 00:24:57,246 --> 00:24:59,246 [McFadden] But under the circumstances, 530 00:24:59,332 --> 00:25:04,002 Robert Wise had much bigger issues monopolizing all of his attention. 531 00:25:04,086 --> 00:25:06,206 There were changes coming down by the hour. 532 00:25:06,297 --> 00:25:08,547 We had to do all kinds of scenes. 533 00:25:08,633 --> 00:25:12,513 [McFadden] Soon, the movie's right hand was no longer talking to its left. 534 00:25:12,595 --> 00:25:16,175 Script pages were coming down to the set after the scenes had already been shot. 535 00:25:17,308 --> 00:25:19,638 And any kind of script or vision that you have causes problems. 536 00:25:19,727 --> 00:25:23,147 You may need to set up that scene in a different location, 537 00:25:23,231 --> 00:25:24,861 do the camera movement in a different way. 538 00:25:24,941 --> 00:25:27,111 That's all time. That's all money. 539 00:25:27,193 --> 00:25:29,653 Both of which the film didn't have enough of. 540 00:25:29,737 --> 00:25:31,947 [McFadden] The writer and producer were barely talking either. 541 00:25:32,031 --> 00:25:34,411 [Livingston] Gene would continually rewrite. 542 00:25:34,492 --> 00:25:37,702 Somebody would sneak it back to me, and I'd rewrite him. 543 00:25:37,787 --> 00:25:40,917 The rewrite of the rewrite of the rewrite would get rewritten. 544 00:25:40,998 --> 00:25:42,538 And it became script wars. 545 00:25:42,625 --> 00:25:45,955 He wouldn't stop. He was just maniacal about it. 546 00:25:46,045 --> 00:25:48,335 [Koenig] I guess that was a trademark of Gene's. 547 00:25:48,422 --> 00:25:50,472 He had to rewrite everybody's work. 548 00:25:50,549 --> 00:25:52,009 And he was a bad writer. 549 00:25:52,093 --> 00:25:54,933 [McFadden] Ironically, some of the best dialogue 550 00:25:55,012 --> 00:25:59,272 and the most electrifying scenes were playing out between Harold and Gene. 551 00:25:59,350 --> 00:26:02,730 We'd sit there, insulting each other, calling each other "stupid" 552 00:26:02,812 --> 00:26:04,062 and "a piece of shit" 553 00:26:04,146 --> 00:26:05,816 and, "You don't know what the hell you're doing. 554 00:26:05,940 --> 00:26:07,530 Get out of my sight." 555 00:26:07,608 --> 00:26:09,278 We are at each other's throats. 556 00:26:09,360 --> 00:26:10,530 [male voice] Emergency alert. 557 00:26:10,611 --> 00:26:11,901 [McFadden] But Star Trek: The Motion Picture 558 00:26:11,988 --> 00:26:15,028 now had a problem money alone couldn't solve. 559 00:26:15,116 --> 00:26:18,996 I said, "I'm not gonna put up with this and I don't care, and I quit!" 560 00:26:25,376 --> 00:26:28,876 [McFadden] Star Trek: The Motion Picture was now months into shooting, 561 00:26:28,963 --> 00:26:30,923 but fast running out of script. 562 00:26:31,007 --> 00:26:32,877 They gave us an unfinished script. 563 00:26:32,967 --> 00:26:35,507 [McFadden] And the only thing worse than not having a script 564 00:26:35,594 --> 00:26:37,604 is not having a writer to fix that. 565 00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:39,430 So I get a call from Katzenberg. 566 00:26:39,515 --> 00:26:40,805 [McFadden] Writer Harold Livingston had... 567 00:26:40,891 --> 00:26:41,771 Quit! 568 00:26:41,851 --> 00:26:44,271 [McFadden] And Paramount executives rushed to save their production. 569 00:26:44,353 --> 00:26:48,693 Katzenberg sends a car for me, brings me to his office at 7:00 PM. 570 00:26:48,774 --> 00:26:53,114 I walk into his office. The secretary locks the door. 571 00:26:53,195 --> 00:26:54,355 "Would you like something to drink?" 572 00:26:54,447 --> 00:26:56,657 So I said, "Yeah, I'd like some gin on the rocks." 573 00:26:56,741 --> 00:26:58,661 Brings me a full glass. 574 00:26:58,743 --> 00:27:00,583 So I'm sitting there, I'm drinking. 575 00:27:00,661 --> 00:27:01,501 I drank. 576 00:27:01,579 --> 00:27:04,289 Half-hour later, Katzenberg comes in. 577 00:27:04,373 --> 00:27:06,423 "All right, you're gonna come back to work." 578 00:27:06,500 --> 00:27:07,380 I said, "No, I'm not." 579 00:27:07,460 --> 00:27:09,170 And I'm drunk, I'm whacked out of my head. 580 00:27:09,253 --> 00:27:11,673 [McFadden] Perhaps the gin had not swayed Harold, 581 00:27:11,756 --> 00:27:13,466 but it had given him some courage. 582 00:27:13,549 --> 00:27:16,389 I said, "I want $10,000 a week." "Got it." 583 00:27:16,469 --> 00:27:18,969 "And I want a picture commitment, a script commitment." 584 00:27:19,055 --> 00:27:20,255 "You got it." 585 00:27:20,348 --> 00:27:22,058 So that's what I had to do. 586 00:27:22,141 --> 00:27:25,021 [McFadden] But just as Harold had tied one on with Katzenberg 587 00:27:25,102 --> 00:27:28,152 and been tied down, Gene was unraveling. 588 00:27:28,230 --> 00:27:32,110 Gene was already starting to show signs of substance abuse. 589 00:27:32,193 --> 00:27:33,743 He was on drugs all the time. 590 00:27:33,819 --> 00:27:37,279 He smoked a lot of pot, and I know he was on cocaine, 591 00:27:37,365 --> 00:27:39,905 and he was a prodigious drinker. 592 00:27:39,992 --> 00:27:41,292 [Gerrold] Gene Roddenberry was probably 593 00:27:41,369 --> 00:27:43,579 one of the most complicated people I've ever met. 594 00:27:43,662 --> 00:27:46,752 He had power, he had authority, he had ability. 595 00:27:46,832 --> 00:27:49,212 He wasted it by being a substance abuser. 596 00:27:49,293 --> 00:27:51,503 But when he was at his best, he was the best. 597 00:27:51,587 --> 00:27:53,667 And when he was at his worst, he was the worst. 598 00:27:53,756 --> 00:27:55,716 [McFadden] Sidelined from his own production, 599 00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:58,180 Gene was losing touch with his life's work. 600 00:27:58,260 --> 00:28:00,890 [Livingston] I understand that this was Gene's baby. 601 00:28:00,971 --> 00:28:02,221 It was his whole life. 602 00:28:02,306 --> 00:28:04,846 And without Star Trek, he was gone. 603 00:28:04,934 --> 00:28:06,064 He was nothing. 604 00:28:06,143 --> 00:28:07,563 [McFadden] The creator of Star Trek 605 00:28:07,645 --> 00:28:10,435 tried harder to force his will on the production. 606 00:28:10,523 --> 00:28:15,953 Roddenberry was always trying to imbue his own ideas into the script, 607 00:28:16,028 --> 00:28:17,238 into the picture. 608 00:28:17,321 --> 00:28:19,161 He drove everybody crazy. 609 00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:23,580 He was more than a pain in the ass, he was a monumental nuisance. 610 00:28:24,453 --> 00:28:25,963 [McFadden] On set, director Robert Wise 611 00:28:26,038 --> 00:28:29,328 was feeling stymied by his overreaching producer. 612 00:28:29,417 --> 00:28:34,167 [Gerrold] Robert Wise was used to having a much greater degree of autonomy 613 00:28:34,255 --> 00:28:36,045 to getting things to work, 614 00:28:36,132 --> 00:28:39,552 and Roddenberry's meddling and micromanaging 615 00:28:39,635 --> 00:28:41,795 was not working well for him. 616 00:28:41,887 --> 00:28:44,057 It was not a happy experience for him. 617 00:28:44,140 --> 00:28:46,640 Roddenberry was the worst producer he ever had to work with. 618 00:28:46,725 --> 00:28:48,185 [McFadden] Adding to the trouble, 619 00:28:48,269 --> 00:28:52,729 Katzenberg and Harold's gin-fueled accord had already broken down. 620 00:28:52,815 --> 00:28:56,565 I got so disgusted with everything that I didn't care about the money or anything. 621 00:28:56,652 --> 00:28:57,612 I just walked out. 622 00:28:57,695 --> 00:28:58,565 [McFadden] Again. 623 00:28:58,654 --> 00:29:00,364 Which was not the end of the story 624 00:29:00,448 --> 00:29:02,318 because the story still had no end. 625 00:29:02,408 --> 00:29:04,828 They didn't have an ending for Star Trek: The Motion Picture. 626 00:29:04,910 --> 00:29:08,960 They gave us a two-act script in a three-act movie. 627 00:29:09,039 --> 00:29:11,459 I had trouble writing the ending myself. 628 00:29:11,542 --> 00:29:13,462 I mean, I can't blame anybody for that 629 00:29:13,544 --> 00:29:15,504 because I couldn't come up with a decent ending. 630 00:29:15,588 --> 00:29:17,588 [McFadden] And without a writer on board, 631 00:29:17,673 --> 00:29:21,973 the only writing being done was a series of angry memos. 632 00:29:22,052 --> 00:29:24,892 Lots of memos going back and forth, including from Paramount. 633 00:29:24,972 --> 00:29:26,472 "What's the ending gonna be?" 634 00:29:26,557 --> 00:29:28,887 And nobody could agree on what the ending was gonna be. 635 00:29:28,976 --> 00:29:30,896 [McFadden] Literally at a loose end, 636 00:29:30,978 --> 00:29:33,858 they even turned to the movie's two stars for ideas. 637 00:29:33,939 --> 00:29:38,279 Bill and Leonard joining the party, there's a trap there of self-interest. 638 00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:41,030 [McFadden] Meaning roles that were written for other characters. 639 00:29:41,113 --> 00:29:42,533 "I'll do that part." [chuckles] 640 00:29:42,615 --> 00:29:45,405 That's what I was imagining that was going on. 641 00:29:45,576 --> 00:29:51,416 You know, there were so many voices and so many... so much self-interest 642 00:29:51,499 --> 00:29:54,879 that it interfered with them finding the end of the story. 643 00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:58,420 [McFadden] But actually, rumor has it Shatner was a little more generous 644 00:29:58,506 --> 00:30:00,126 than previously suggested. 645 00:30:00,216 --> 00:30:01,926 "I'll do that part." [laughs] 646 00:30:02,009 --> 00:30:03,429 [McFadden] No. Actually... 647 00:30:03,511 --> 00:30:07,641 Bill Shatner said, "Let's have Chekov do this" 648 00:30:07,723 --> 00:30:09,933 on a couple of occasions. 649 00:30:10,017 --> 00:30:12,347 That would have substantially boosted my part. 650 00:30:12,436 --> 00:30:16,066 [McFadden] Maybe Walter would have that close-up after all. 651 00:30:16,148 --> 00:30:17,528 They didn't. They didn't go for it. 652 00:30:17,608 --> 00:30:19,488 [McFadden] Ooh, right. 653 00:30:19,568 --> 00:30:23,568 But Bill Shatner had come out in favor of Walter Koenig. 654 00:30:23,656 --> 00:30:25,946 [McFadden] Well, whoever got the close-ups, 655 00:30:26,033 --> 00:30:29,163 it was pretty obvious that not having a third act was bad. 656 00:30:29,245 --> 00:30:30,615 But there was another problem 657 00:30:30,704 --> 00:30:33,424 that couldn't simply be solved with a typewriter. 658 00:30:33,499 --> 00:30:35,959 The special effects people were not producing what he needed. 659 00:30:36,043 --> 00:30:38,343 So the question would be, why wouldn't they come forward and say, 660 00:30:38,420 --> 00:30:39,630 "Hey, we're having a problem"? 661 00:30:39,713 --> 00:30:41,173 Well, because you don't wanna get fired. 662 00:30:41,257 --> 00:30:44,427 They were feeling that they would somehow find a way to pull it through. 663 00:30:44,510 --> 00:30:46,720 [McFadden] The director was getting nervous. 664 00:30:46,804 --> 00:30:48,354 Paramount presold this. 665 00:30:48,430 --> 00:30:50,470 There was a locked premiere date. 666 00:30:50,558 --> 00:30:52,808 [McFadden] With the movie already booked in theaters, 667 00:30:52,893 --> 00:30:55,733 Wise knew how true the teaser poster really was. 668 00:30:55,813 --> 00:31:00,323 The adventure was only just beginning when it should have been nearly finished. 669 00:31:00,401 --> 00:31:02,441 They were opening the movie in nine months. 670 00:31:02,528 --> 00:31:03,818 She needs more work, sir! 671 00:31:03,904 --> 00:31:06,744 Bob Wise finally said, "Come show me what you have." 672 00:31:06,824 --> 00:31:08,704 He'd been asking to see it for a while. 673 00:31:08,784 --> 00:31:10,664 [McFadden] The effects crew played a test reel, 674 00:31:10,744 --> 00:31:12,714 hoping the director would see the light. 675 00:31:12,788 --> 00:31:15,288 And so they brought it in, and they screened it. 676 00:31:15,374 --> 00:31:17,214 [McFadden] Robert Wise saw the light all right. 677 00:31:17,293 --> 00:31:19,093 The probe itself, which was a physical thing, 678 00:31:19,169 --> 00:31:20,629 putting out a huge amount of light. 679 00:31:20,713 --> 00:31:21,803 [McFadden] But that was all he saw. 680 00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:23,510 [Cushman] And he said, "Okay, show me what else you have." 681 00:31:23,591 --> 00:31:25,011 They said, "That's everything." 682 00:31:25,092 --> 00:31:28,102 And they failed terribly. They were over their heads. 683 00:31:28,178 --> 00:31:30,008 They didn't know how to do something like this. 684 00:31:30,097 --> 00:31:32,677 [McFadden] Worse, this humble on-camera effect 685 00:31:32,766 --> 00:31:35,436 was not what Robert Abel had promised. 686 00:31:35,519 --> 00:31:38,649 Bob had bitten off a huge chunk. 687 00:31:38,731 --> 00:31:43,361 He had proposed and pursued doing the effects for the movie 688 00:31:43,444 --> 00:31:45,034 in a digital environment 689 00:31:45,112 --> 00:31:49,452 with computers that were not even as powerful as your cellphone. 690 00:31:49,533 --> 00:31:53,333 [McFadden] Unbeknownst to the director, the digital effects had failed. 691 00:31:53,412 --> 00:31:56,792 And the only stunning visual effect Robert Wise saw 692 00:31:56,874 --> 00:31:58,754 was the disappearing budget. 693 00:31:58,834 --> 00:32:00,464 About five million was squandered. 694 00:32:00,544 --> 00:32:02,554 Robert Wise had a meltdown, 695 00:32:02,630 --> 00:32:06,260 to just storm out and say, "I never wanna see that man again." 696 00:32:06,342 --> 00:32:08,552 [McFadden] That man was soon-to-be-replaced 697 00:32:08,636 --> 00:32:10,716 special effects supervisor Robert Abel. 698 00:32:10,804 --> 00:32:13,064 "Find me somebody else. I don't care who. 699 00:32:13,140 --> 00:32:15,680 I will never have anything to do with that man again." 700 00:32:15,768 --> 00:32:18,598 [McFadden] The numbers were all bad for Star Trek: The Motion Picture. 701 00:32:18,687 --> 00:32:23,227 Six months until the premiere, only two of three acts scripted 702 00:32:23,317 --> 00:32:26,397 and just one miserable minute of special effects. 703 00:32:29,740 --> 00:32:31,370 [McFadden] Nearly a year into production, 704 00:32:31,450 --> 00:32:34,660 Star Trek: The Motion Picture still had no special effects, 705 00:32:34,745 --> 00:32:36,785 no ending, and seemingly no hope. 706 00:32:36,872 --> 00:32:38,542 Systems overloading, Captain! 707 00:32:38,624 --> 00:32:42,344 [McFadden] Only one thing could make this classic Hollywood nightmare worse: 708 00:32:42,419 --> 00:32:43,249 lawyers. 709 00:32:43,337 --> 00:32:45,957 Exhibitors put a lot of pressure on the studio 710 00:32:46,048 --> 00:32:47,798 in the form of a potential lawsuit 711 00:32:47,883 --> 00:32:53,013 to make sure that the movie was completed on the date that they had proposed. 712 00:32:53,097 --> 00:32:56,387 [McFadden] There's nothing like the threat of legal action to get things moving. 713 00:32:56,475 --> 00:33:00,185 Fearing the worst, Paramount made plans to shift liability. 714 00:33:00,270 --> 00:33:02,900 I believe they had to have a fall guy. 715 00:33:02,981 --> 00:33:07,571 [McFadden] Overwhelmed and underachieving, Robert Abel was cast in that role. 716 00:33:07,653 --> 00:33:12,953 Bob Abel became the force majeure that the studio had to have 717 00:33:13,033 --> 00:33:16,373 in case they were sued by the exhibitors 718 00:33:16,453 --> 00:33:20,123 to avoid a $100 million class-action suit. 719 00:33:20,207 --> 00:33:22,417 [McFadden] Dreaming up legal strategies was one thing, 720 00:33:22,501 --> 00:33:26,301 but what Paramount needed was someone to dream up an ending to their film. 721 00:33:26,380 --> 00:33:28,630 [Cushman] And John Povill, who was associate producer, 722 00:33:28,716 --> 00:33:30,676 came up with the ending in the 11th hour 723 00:33:30,759 --> 00:33:35,719 with this idea that V'Ger is trying to achieve consciousness. 724 00:33:35,806 --> 00:33:38,766 [McFadden] That's V'Ger, the giant, amorphous energy cloud. 725 00:33:38,851 --> 00:33:41,651 And how better to do it than to merge with the Creator? 726 00:33:41,729 --> 00:33:43,519 -And who is the Creator? -A human. 727 00:33:43,605 --> 00:33:44,435 [McFadden] That's this human. 728 00:33:44,523 --> 00:33:46,573 [Cushman] And Decker can merge with Ilia. 729 00:33:46,650 --> 00:33:47,900 [McFadden] That's this woman. 730 00:33:47,985 --> 00:33:49,735 The Creator has not answered. 731 00:33:49,820 --> 00:33:51,070 [Cushman] Which is also merging with V'Ger. 732 00:33:51,155 --> 00:33:52,275 Who is V'Ger? 733 00:33:52,406 --> 00:33:54,736 V'Ger is that which seeks the Creator. 734 00:33:54,825 --> 00:33:57,365 Which allows V'Ger to merge with humankind. 735 00:33:57,453 --> 00:33:58,503 It became a living thing. 736 00:33:58,579 --> 00:34:00,999 [McFadden] If that sounds confusing, that's because it is. 737 00:34:01,123 --> 00:34:02,833 And Paramount felt the same way. 738 00:34:02,916 --> 00:34:07,756 Paramount hated it, hated it, but Robert Wise said, "I like it." 739 00:34:07,838 --> 00:34:10,668 And of course, when Bob Wise liked it, then Paramount liked it, 740 00:34:10,758 --> 00:34:11,878 and so it got filmed. 741 00:34:11,967 --> 00:34:13,797 [McFadden] Working out the end was a start. 742 00:34:13,886 --> 00:34:16,426 But in June of '79, Paramount still had 743 00:34:16,513 --> 00:34:19,393 an incomplete film with no special effects. 744 00:34:19,475 --> 00:34:21,305 [Tenuto] Paramount brings in Doug Trumbull, 745 00:34:21,393 --> 00:34:24,653 who is one of the special effects world's most amazing artists, 746 00:34:24,730 --> 00:34:26,230 working on 2001. 747 00:34:26,315 --> 00:34:27,975 [McFadden] Stanley Kubrick's classic opus 748 00:34:28,066 --> 00:34:31,646 had virtually defined the look and feel of space on film. 749 00:34:31,737 --> 00:34:34,657 Nobody knew how to do space effects better than Doug Trumbull. 750 00:34:34,740 --> 00:34:37,950 [McFadden] Paramount needed Trumbull to do the same for Star Trek, 751 00:34:38,035 --> 00:34:39,155 and at warp speed. 752 00:34:39,244 --> 00:34:42,164 What Star Trek needed was a new way of doing things. 753 00:34:42,247 --> 00:34:46,207 And luckily for Trumbull, John Dykstra had invented just that, 754 00:34:46,293 --> 00:34:48,213 courtesy of Star Wars again. 755 00:34:48,295 --> 00:34:49,335 Here's where the fun begins. 756 00:34:49,421 --> 00:34:53,881 When we did the Star Wars stuff, it opened up a whole new realm 757 00:34:53,967 --> 00:34:56,177 for lots and lots of material. 758 00:34:56,261 --> 00:34:58,431 [McFadden] Motion control, still a new technique, 759 00:34:58,514 --> 00:35:01,484 had made it possible to realistically depict spaceflight. 760 00:35:01,558 --> 00:35:02,388 Take us out. 761 00:35:02,476 --> 00:35:07,516 We were using technology we designed for an earlier project 762 00:35:07,648 --> 00:35:12,028 to achieve a new result, but there was so much work to do 763 00:35:12,110 --> 00:35:13,400 in such a short period of time. 764 00:35:13,487 --> 00:35:15,657 When I joined them, it was triage. 765 00:35:15,739 --> 00:35:20,579 Suddenly, there was a crash rush at the end of coming up to the release date. 766 00:35:20,661 --> 00:35:22,371 [Dykstra] We immediately went into a nightmare. 767 00:35:22,454 --> 00:35:23,914 Everybody's hair was on fire. 768 00:35:23,997 --> 00:35:26,917 We were working three eight-hour shifts. 769 00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:28,000 They brought beds in. 770 00:35:28,085 --> 00:35:31,165 I think the quote was from Michael Eisner was, 771 00:35:31,255 --> 00:35:34,415 "You're coming out on the release date we have set. 772 00:35:34,508 --> 00:35:38,638 I don't care if there's black leader in place of where the effects should be, 773 00:35:38,720 --> 00:35:39,720 the movie's coming out." 774 00:35:39,805 --> 00:35:42,015 Don't worry, she'll launch on schedule 775 00:35:42,099 --> 00:35:43,479 if we have to tow her out with our bare hands. 776 00:35:43,559 --> 00:35:45,729 [McFadden] With the hardest of hard deadlines, 777 00:35:45,811 --> 00:35:49,061 John and Doug divided the work between their studios. 778 00:35:49,147 --> 00:35:52,607 Doug was really, I think, focusing on the Enterprise. 779 00:35:52,693 --> 00:35:54,993 [McFadden] The iconic and now redesigned mothership 780 00:35:55,070 --> 00:35:57,030 was destined to be the centerpiece. 781 00:35:57,114 --> 00:35:58,994 Doug did the drydock sequence. 782 00:35:59,074 --> 00:36:00,914 And they do the tour around the Enterprise. 783 00:36:00,993 --> 00:36:02,623 And if you're a Star Trek fan, it's ahh... 784 00:36:03,829 --> 00:36:07,419 The introduction of the Enterprise had to be orgasmic. 785 00:36:07,499 --> 00:36:10,459 I'm in heaven. You know, you could stop now, I'll die happy. 786 00:36:10,544 --> 00:36:12,924 [McFadden] This cinematic climax was made possible 787 00:36:13,005 --> 00:36:14,755 by some ingenious smoke and mirrors. 788 00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:17,720 [Dykstra] Trick is, is that we're trying to create an illusion. 789 00:36:17,801 --> 00:36:19,551 You put a light source on the ship, 790 00:36:19,636 --> 00:36:23,426 and you want it to focus on a particular thing. 791 00:36:23,515 --> 00:36:26,345 [Andrew Probert] So much white lighting on the side of the ship 792 00:36:26,435 --> 00:36:28,145 kind of took away from the scale of the ship, 793 00:36:28,228 --> 00:36:33,188 and he thought it'd be better to neutralize all of that lighting down 794 00:36:33,275 --> 00:36:37,395 and just use these spotlights to give the ship more scale. 795 00:36:37,487 --> 00:36:39,107 [McFadden] That epic scale came from something 796 00:36:39,197 --> 00:36:40,737 small enough to fit in your mouth. 797 00:36:40,824 --> 00:36:43,294 There was dental mirrors, a lot of dental mirrors. 798 00:36:43,368 --> 00:36:45,868 Take a new light source, it's a focused beam 799 00:36:45,954 --> 00:36:48,964 bouncing off a dental mirror, and it puts a spot of light over here, 800 00:36:49,041 --> 00:36:52,131 and it looks like that light is sourced from here. 801 00:36:52,210 --> 00:36:53,750 [McFadden] But to get the party started, 802 00:36:53,837 --> 00:36:56,877 it wasn't the Enterprise that needed to look imperious. 803 00:36:56,965 --> 00:36:59,755 John Dykstra's outfit did the opening shot, 804 00:36:59,843 --> 00:37:03,723 which was of the Klingon ship looming into view. 805 00:37:03,805 --> 00:37:06,175 They knew how important it was for the picture. 806 00:37:06,266 --> 00:37:08,516 [McFadden] If the Enterprise was going to be majestic, 807 00:37:08,602 --> 00:37:11,522 her enemies needed to be electrifying. 808 00:37:12,522 --> 00:37:13,612 We had lots of weird stuff. 809 00:37:13,690 --> 00:37:18,200 We had a Tesla coil, which is a lightning generator. 810 00:37:18,278 --> 00:37:23,028 It would throw a six-foot arc in helium with the no vacuum, 811 00:37:23,116 --> 00:37:25,366 which is a long piece of lightning. 812 00:37:27,287 --> 00:37:32,127 It used 60 amps at 440 volts, which is a lot of electricity. 813 00:37:33,794 --> 00:37:38,174 And we had to build a cage around it because we're near the airport there, 814 00:37:38,340 --> 00:37:40,800 and when we fired it up, it would interfere 815 00:37:40,884 --> 00:37:44,974 with radio transmissions from the tower with the airplanes. 816 00:37:45,055 --> 00:37:48,555 Maybe that wasn't the best way to do it, but it was the way that we figured 817 00:37:48,642 --> 00:37:50,392 we could get it done in the time that we had. 818 00:37:50,477 --> 00:37:53,477 [McFadden] While incredible explosions were being rendered to film, 819 00:37:53,563 --> 00:37:57,863 something else was exploding like a supernova, and it wasn't pretty. 820 00:37:57,943 --> 00:37:58,993 It went way over budget. 821 00:37:59,069 --> 00:38:02,279 It doubled and then tripled, and then eventually was $45 million. 822 00:38:02,364 --> 00:38:03,824 Money wasn't an issue. 823 00:38:03,907 --> 00:38:05,027 And worked around the clock 824 00:38:05,117 --> 00:38:08,577 and finished the last of the special effects 825 00:38:08,662 --> 00:38:11,422 about a week before the movie was going to open. 826 00:38:11,498 --> 00:38:14,248 [McFadden] A lot had gone into Star Trek: The Motion Picture. 827 00:38:14,334 --> 00:38:15,504 Nobody had seen the movie. 828 00:38:15,585 --> 00:38:17,745 [McFadden] And a lot of it ended up on screen. 829 00:38:17,838 --> 00:38:19,968 It was an incredible human effort. 830 00:38:20,048 --> 00:38:23,678 [McFadden] So it was no surprise that, following their first screening, 831 00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:25,760 the L-word was used. 832 00:38:25,846 --> 00:38:28,306 And suddenly, it's feeling long. 833 00:38:28,390 --> 00:38:30,600 [McFadden] Along with the B-word. 834 00:38:30,684 --> 00:38:32,604 It's feeling a little boring. 835 00:38:32,686 --> 00:38:34,056 [McFadden] However, somewhat ironically, 836 00:38:34,146 --> 00:38:37,316 Robert Wise just didn't have enough time to fix it. 837 00:38:37,399 --> 00:38:41,399 He wanted more time to shave off some of those moments 838 00:38:41,486 --> 00:38:44,776 that people complained about where there's a little too much special effects, 839 00:38:44,865 --> 00:38:48,115 add a little bit more of the humanity into the film. 840 00:38:48,201 --> 00:38:51,291 [McFadden] But with the premiere looming, Paramount had the bigger problem 841 00:38:51,371 --> 00:38:55,501 of finishing their final cut, or any cut, in time for the opening. 842 00:38:55,584 --> 00:38:58,254 They were just hoping that they could get it done. 843 00:39:04,843 --> 00:39:07,183 [McFadden] December 7th, 1979. 844 00:39:07,262 --> 00:39:10,602 There was a red carpet thing. Everybody was in tuxedos. 845 00:39:10,682 --> 00:39:12,982 [McFadden] As everyone made their way to the premiere... 846 00:39:13,060 --> 00:39:16,650 Robert Wise is carrying with him the print, and it's still wet. 847 00:39:16,730 --> 00:39:18,150 They just made the print. 848 00:39:18,231 --> 00:39:21,691 [Gerrold] They came out of the developer into the can still wet 849 00:39:21,777 --> 00:39:25,657 with the idea that they would be dried off by their first trip through the projector 850 00:39:25,739 --> 00:39:26,819 when they got to the theater. 851 00:39:26,907 --> 00:39:31,537 The last roll of visual effects had been done the night before. 852 00:39:31,620 --> 00:39:33,040 They got into the theater. 853 00:39:33,121 --> 00:39:35,871 [McFadden] The feeling in the room was euphoric. 854 00:39:35,957 --> 00:39:38,707 The opening to Star Trek: The Motion Picture is glorious. 855 00:39:39,669 --> 00:39:42,959 There's so much going on, the effects are marvelous. 856 00:39:43,048 --> 00:39:46,218 The audience cheered and applauded when they saw the Klingon ships. 857 00:39:47,761 --> 00:39:50,261 [McFadden] Paramount had a hit on their hands. 858 00:39:50,347 --> 00:39:52,307 It's amazing. It's insane. 859 00:39:52,390 --> 00:39:55,520 Star Trek: The Motion Picture was extremely successful. 860 00:39:55,602 --> 00:39:58,152 It's insane that the movie made as much money as it did. 861 00:39:58,230 --> 00:39:59,400 It made a fortune. 862 00:39:59,481 --> 00:40:02,821 Star Trek: The Motion Picture makes $139 million. 863 00:40:02,901 --> 00:40:05,321 [McFadden] After crawling over the finish line, 864 00:40:05,403 --> 00:40:08,323 the film still managed to take first place. 865 00:40:08,406 --> 00:40:11,156 It was number one at the box office for about three months. 866 00:40:11,243 --> 00:40:16,003 It made more money than any Star Trek film until Star Trek 2009. 867 00:40:16,081 --> 00:40:17,711 [McFadden] But critics were split. 868 00:40:17,791 --> 00:40:21,461 [Cushman] About half of them were very positive. Half weren't. 869 00:40:21,545 --> 00:40:23,755 [McFadden] For some, the rebirth of Star Trek 870 00:40:23,839 --> 00:40:25,259 was an achievement itself. 871 00:40:25,340 --> 00:40:28,180 [Tenuto] What a towering achievement Star Trek: The Motion Picture was 872 00:40:28,260 --> 00:40:31,470 that it was able to take a 1960s television show 873 00:40:31,555 --> 00:40:36,685 produced on a 1960s budget with 1960s special effects technology 874 00:40:36,768 --> 00:40:40,438 and transform it into something realistic and believable. 875 00:40:40,522 --> 00:40:42,322 It looks like you found a way. 876 00:40:42,399 --> 00:40:46,699 [McFadden] But for some, the film still moved at a 1960s pace. 877 00:40:46,778 --> 00:40:50,618 "Star Trek: The Motionless Picture" and things like that. 878 00:40:50,699 --> 00:40:52,449 [Koenig] The papers, they were brutal. 879 00:40:52,534 --> 00:40:57,084 They just said we were these old guys who should have stuck to television. 880 00:40:57,205 --> 00:40:58,115 It was just awful. 881 00:40:58,206 --> 00:41:02,206 The only thing was, I evidently was so anonymous in the picture 882 00:41:02,294 --> 00:41:06,844 that when the reviews came and they started naming the actors 883 00:41:06,923 --> 00:41:09,763 who were out of their league by being in this picture, 884 00:41:09,843 --> 00:41:12,803 they ignored my existence entirely. 885 00:41:12,888 --> 00:41:14,598 I-I was grateful. 886 00:41:14,681 --> 00:41:16,101 We're out of it. 887 00:41:16,183 --> 00:41:19,773 I always see all the flaws in it because I was there 888 00:41:19,853 --> 00:41:21,613 and I know where the compromises are. 889 00:41:21,688 --> 00:41:23,058 [McFadden] For Leonard Nimoy, 890 00:41:23,148 --> 00:41:25,648 the motion picture was like a faraway planet. 891 00:41:25,734 --> 00:41:29,364 V'Ger is barren, cold. 892 00:41:29,446 --> 00:41:31,196 It was cold, it was distant. 893 00:41:31,281 --> 00:41:32,821 It had very little to do with Star Trek. 894 00:41:32,908 --> 00:41:35,368 No meaning, no hope. 895 00:41:35,452 --> 00:41:38,912 Characters were not in shape in place, playing off of each other 896 00:41:38,997 --> 00:41:40,997 and with each other the way we did best. 897 00:41:41,082 --> 00:41:43,382 There were some reviews that called into question 898 00:41:43,460 --> 00:41:46,090 the missing sort of humanity of the characters. 899 00:41:46,171 --> 00:41:48,671 [McFadden] Then, there was possibly the most confusing ending 900 00:41:48,757 --> 00:41:51,837 to a sci-fi picture since 2001: A Space Odyssey. 901 00:41:51,927 --> 00:41:53,757 I wasn't crazy about the ending. 902 00:41:53,845 --> 00:41:57,425 What V'Ger needs in order to evolve is a human quality. 903 00:41:57,515 --> 00:42:01,645 And that's not because I didn't write it. It's because it made little sense to me. 904 00:42:01,728 --> 00:42:05,358 They all do a merge or do something. I don't know. 905 00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:08,900 But if it worked for the Star Trek people, okay, good. 906 00:42:08,985 --> 00:42:10,235 [McFadden] For director Robert Wise, 907 00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:12,780 it turned out to be one of his biggest hits, 908 00:42:12,864 --> 00:42:14,704 and one of his least favorite films. 909 00:42:14,783 --> 00:42:18,253 He said, "I've never made a movie before where we were rewriting the script 910 00:42:18,328 --> 00:42:21,328 as we were shooting and waiting for the special effects." 911 00:42:21,414 --> 00:42:23,464 Making Star Trek wasn't fun. 912 00:42:23,541 --> 00:42:25,541 [McFadden] The success of Star Trek: The Motion Picture 913 00:42:25,627 --> 00:42:27,627 had saved the franchise. 914 00:42:27,712 --> 00:42:29,462 [Cushman] Star Trek: The Motion Picture was such a big hit, 915 00:42:29,547 --> 00:42:30,917 of course there was gonna be a second movie 916 00:42:31,007 --> 00:42:31,967 and a third movie and so forth. 917 00:42:32,050 --> 00:42:35,930 It made it of worth to continue the Star Trek franchise. 918 00:42:36,012 --> 00:42:39,562 [McFadden] But this larger prize came at the expense of the TV show. 919 00:42:39,641 --> 00:42:42,441 So their Phase II went away for that reason, 920 00:42:42,519 --> 00:42:44,729 because of the success of the movie. 921 00:42:44,813 --> 00:42:48,533 [McFadden] For Gene Roddenberry, the motion picture was another example 922 00:42:48,608 --> 00:42:51,488 of Star Trek taking off without him on board. 923 00:42:51,569 --> 00:42:53,569 [Nemecek] You know, there were a lot of problems with the motion picture, 924 00:42:53,655 --> 00:42:59,365 both structurally and as a film, and a lot of that was not Gene's fault, 925 00:42:59,452 --> 00:43:00,702 but he was blamed. 926 00:43:00,787 --> 00:43:02,957 And he was demoted. 927 00:43:03,039 --> 00:43:06,329 After the motion picture, Gene was kicked upstairs. 928 00:43:06,418 --> 00:43:09,128 They gave him a new contract that said 929 00:43:09,212 --> 00:43:12,762 that he would be a very well-paid script consultant. 930 00:43:12,841 --> 00:43:15,391 [McFadden] For perhaps the first time in its history, 931 00:43:15,468 --> 00:43:18,138 but not the last, Star Trek had broken through 932 00:43:18,221 --> 00:43:21,221 despite its creator, as well as because of him. 933 00:43:21,308 --> 00:43:22,678 We wouldn't be here discussing Star Trek 934 00:43:22,767 --> 00:43:24,517 if it wasn't for Star Trek: The Motion Picture. 935 00:43:24,602 --> 00:43:27,732 Somebody had to go boldly where no one had gone before, 936 00:43:27,814 --> 00:43:29,324 and Robert Wise did it. 937 00:43:29,399 --> 00:43:32,939 It would be churlish and self-aggrandizing, I think, 938 00:43:33,028 --> 00:43:35,028 to not acknowledge the debt, 939 00:43:35,113 --> 00:43:38,833 even if, you know, I just learned things watching the movie 940 00:43:38,908 --> 00:43:40,988 that I didn't understand or wanted to change 941 00:43:41,077 --> 00:43:42,407 or thought could be done differently. 942 00:43:42,495 --> 00:43:47,535 It was also a sociological pop culture landmark. 943 00:43:47,625 --> 00:43:48,835 What do you make of all this? 944 00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:51,710 [McFadden] Just as the motion picture split critical opinion, 945 00:43:51,796 --> 00:43:55,296 fans were also split and still debate its worth today. 946 00:43:55,383 --> 00:43:57,893 The very first debate among the fans: 947 00:43:57,969 --> 00:44:00,509 Is Star Trek: The Motion Picture good or bad? 948 00:44:00,597 --> 00:44:04,387 It just didn't have the dynamics, didn't have the drama. 949 00:44:04,476 --> 00:44:05,726 I think it's a good movie. 950 00:44:05,810 --> 00:44:08,900 Most people excoriate it, but I like the first Star Trek movie. 951 00:44:08,980 --> 00:44:11,320 [McFadden] But for every fan of the original series 952 00:44:11,399 --> 00:44:14,939 who lamented the lack of a good villain or driving action... 953 00:44:15,028 --> 00:44:16,778 [grunting] 954 00:44:16,863 --> 00:44:20,083 [McFadden] ...there's a fan who sees pure science fiction. 955 00:44:20,158 --> 00:44:23,658 [Tenuto] It's a very cerebral, thoughtful commentary. 956 00:44:23,745 --> 00:44:25,865 It comments on the concept of faith. 957 00:44:25,955 --> 00:44:29,035 It deals with something that we are dealing with right now, 958 00:44:29,125 --> 00:44:32,245 in a profound way, which is the merger of humanity and machines. 959 00:44:32,337 --> 00:44:34,457 V'Ger and the Creator will become one. 960 00:44:34,547 --> 00:44:37,507 And so in some ways, again, like really great science fiction, 961 00:44:37,592 --> 00:44:38,512 ahead of its time. 962 00:44:38,593 --> 00:44:41,893 For all the slings and arrows that the motion picture takes as a piece of cinema, 963 00:44:41,971 --> 00:44:44,601 Star Trek broke so many norms. 964 00:44:44,682 --> 00:44:47,272 It broke so much new ground on so many levels. 965 00:44:47,352 --> 00:44:49,692 We are inside a living machine. 966 00:44:49,771 --> 00:44:52,271 Star Trek: The Motion Picture goes into who we are. 967 00:44:52,357 --> 00:44:54,227 What is life? What is the meaning of life? 968 00:44:54,317 --> 00:44:58,197 Star Trek: The Motion Picture keeps in line with Roddenberry's edict 969 00:44:58,279 --> 00:45:00,449 that Star Trek is us. 970 00:45:00,532 --> 00:45:05,542 I think we gave it the ability to create its own sense of purpose 971 00:45:05,620 --> 00:45:07,790 out of our own human weaknesses. 972 00:45:07,872 --> 00:45:09,832 [McFadden] Whatever its human weaknesses, 973 00:45:09,916 --> 00:45:14,836 Star Trek: The Motion Picture had put Star Trek, the franchise back on track, 974 00:45:14,921 --> 00:45:17,841 even if its makers felt like they had just survived a war. 975 00:45:17,924 --> 00:45:22,434 I've been in three wars. I've had the shit kicked out of me. 976 00:45:22,512 --> 00:45:24,972 My worst war was with Roddenberry. 977 00:45:25,056 --> 00:45:26,926 I don't know who else could have taken all that shit. 978 00:45:27,016 --> 00:45:29,636 [McFadden] Well, Harold would not be the last. 979 00:45:29,727 --> 00:45:31,807 [theme music playing] 980 00:45:31,857 --> 00:45:36,407 Repair and Synchronization by Easy Subtitles Synchronizer 1.0.0.0 85367

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