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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:18,975 --> 00:00:20,977 - ♪ Imagine me and you 2 00:00:21,021 --> 00:00:24,415 ♪ I do, I think about you day and night ♪ 3 00:00:24,459 --> 00:00:28,419 ♪ It's only right to think about the girl you love ♪ 4 00:00:28,463 --> 00:00:34,860 ♪ And hold her tight, so happy together ♪ 5 00:00:34,904 --> 00:00:37,950 ♪ If I should call you up, invest a dime ♪ 6 00:00:37,994 --> 00:00:40,518 ♪ And you say you belong to me ♪ 7 00:00:40,562 --> 00:00:42,042 ♪ And ease my mind 8 00:00:42,085 --> 00:00:44,348 ♪ Imagine how the world could be ♪ 9 00:00:44,392 --> 00:00:49,701 ♪ So very fine, so happy together ♪ 10 00:01:09,199 --> 00:01:11,854 - ♪ Me and you and you and me ♪ 11 00:01:11,897 --> 00:01:14,161 ♪ No matter how they toss the dice ♪ 12 00:01:14,204 --> 00:01:18,078 ♪ It had to be the only one for me is you ♪ 13 00:01:18,121 --> 00:01:24,127 ♪ And you for me, so happy together ♪ 14 00:01:24,171 --> 00:01:27,957 ♪ So happy together 15 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:32,135 ♪ And how is the weather 16 00:01:32,179 --> 00:01:35,834 ♪ So happy together 17 00:01:35,878 --> 00:01:40,143 ♪ We're happy together 18 00:01:40,187 --> 00:01:44,408 ♪ So happy together 19 00:01:44,452 --> 00:01:47,890 ♪ Happy together 20 00:01:47,933 --> 00:01:51,807 ♪ So happy together 21 00:01:51,850 --> 00:01:56,116 ♪ So happy together 22 00:02:13,002 --> 00:02:15,787 - I made a list of everyone I could think of 23 00:02:15,831 --> 00:02:19,139 that I photographed in Laurel Canyon. 24 00:02:37,461 --> 00:02:38,984 A lot of people. 25 00:02:47,123 --> 00:02:49,995 I first came to LA in '63 26 00:02:50,039 --> 00:02:52,433 with a four-part folk group. 27 00:02:52,476 --> 00:02:54,826 We came over to seek our fortunes, 28 00:02:54,870 --> 00:02:56,176 and played at the Troubadour 29 00:02:56,219 --> 00:02:58,221 the second night we were in town. 30 00:02:58,265 --> 00:02:59,570 ["How The West Was Won" playing] 31 00:02:59,614 --> 00:03:02,094 - ♪ I'll bid goodbye 32 00:03:02,138 --> 00:03:04,227 ♪ To the whip and the line 33 00:03:04,271 --> 00:03:06,011 - ♪ Yeah 34 00:03:06,055 --> 00:03:10,015 - ♪ And drive no more in the wintertime ♪ 35 00:03:10,059 --> 00:03:12,192 - Got a manager and a record company 36 00:03:12,235 --> 00:03:15,020 and all that very quickly. 37 00:03:15,064 --> 00:03:17,327 Within a week, I went up to somebody's party 38 00:03:17,371 --> 00:03:19,242 at the Laurel Canyon. 39 00:03:19,286 --> 00:03:22,550 You could see it was a very cool place. 40 00:03:22,593 --> 00:03:25,205 The main boulevard is Laurel Canyon Boulevard, 41 00:03:25,248 --> 00:03:26,902 and it goes from Hollywood, 42 00:03:26,945 --> 00:03:28,338 straight up into the Hollywood Hills, 43 00:03:28,382 --> 00:03:30,427 crests over the top at Mulholland, 44 00:03:30,471 --> 00:03:34,736 and goes down into what they call the Valley. 45 00:03:34,779 --> 00:03:38,218 Off of that main road that curves around a bit, 46 00:03:38,261 --> 00:03:42,265 there are little arteries that go off like Kirkwood 47 00:03:42,309 --> 00:03:44,920 and Lookout Mountain Avenue. 48 00:03:44,963 --> 00:03:46,487 Then you go up those avenues, 49 00:03:46,530 --> 00:03:48,880 and there's little capillaries that go off, 50 00:03:48,924 --> 00:03:52,275 Weepah Way and Rosilla Place, 51 00:03:52,319 --> 00:03:54,712 and that's where I first moved to Laurel Canyon. 52 00:03:54,756 --> 00:03:56,888 I had a little one-room studio. 53 00:03:58,412 --> 00:03:59,978 Coyotes at night. 54 00:04:00,022 --> 00:04:02,154 Very quiet except for owl. 55 00:04:05,984 --> 00:04:07,159 Sometimes in the afternoon, 56 00:04:07,203 --> 00:04:09,379 you hear a, like, uh, a solo guitar, 57 00:04:09,423 --> 00:04:11,512 kind of echoing from somewhere in the hillside, 58 00:04:11,555 --> 00:04:14,254 drifting through the Canyon. 59 00:04:18,170 --> 00:04:19,389 ["Mr. Tambourine" playing] 60 00:04:23,611 --> 00:04:25,482 ♪ Play a song for me 61 00:04:25,526 --> 00:04:27,092 - I moved to Laurel Canyon 62 00:04:27,136 --> 00:04:29,443 right after the success of "Mr. Tambourine Man." 63 00:04:29,486 --> 00:04:32,620 - ♪ There ain't no place I'm goin' to ♪ 64 00:04:32,663 --> 00:04:35,971 - I'm up by the market, and I run into this fella. 65 00:04:36,014 --> 00:04:37,755 He was a dentist, a young guy. 66 00:04:37,799 --> 00:04:39,844 And he says, "Are you looking for a place to live?" 67 00:04:39,888 --> 00:04:42,107 And I said, "Yeah." 68 00:04:42,151 --> 00:04:44,501 I go up there, and this house was at the end 69 00:04:44,545 --> 00:04:47,112 of a dirt road at the top of Kirkwood. 70 00:04:47,156 --> 00:04:49,245 And it overlooked the entire city. 71 00:04:49,289 --> 00:04:50,812 So you can imagine at night 72 00:04:50,855 --> 00:04:53,031 what that looked like, beautiful. 73 00:04:53,075 --> 00:04:54,990 Rented it, and start furnishing it. 74 00:04:55,033 --> 00:04:56,861 Now I had a house. 75 00:04:56,905 --> 00:05:01,170 At same time, David Crosby moved over to Willow Glen. 76 00:05:01,213 --> 00:05:03,303 Roger lived across the Canyon. 77 00:05:03,999 --> 00:05:06,610 - It was serene, it was beautiful. 78 00:05:06,654 --> 00:05:09,700 Winding, hilly, it was like living in the country, 79 00:05:09,744 --> 00:05:11,354 but you're in a big city. 80 00:05:11,398 --> 00:05:13,487 - The only person who moved there before we did 81 00:05:13,530 --> 00:05:16,794 might have been Zappa. 82 00:05:16,838 --> 00:05:18,230 It wasn't a scene yet. 83 00:05:18,274 --> 00:05:20,145 It was just a better place to live, 84 00:05:20,189 --> 00:05:24,062 above the smog. It was so magical. 85 00:05:24,106 --> 00:05:25,890 Literally, within four, five minutes, 86 00:05:25,934 --> 00:05:28,763 you could be down on the Sunset Strip into Hollywood. 87 00:05:28,806 --> 00:05:31,766 ["You Showed Me" playing] 88 00:05:36,771 --> 00:05:38,816 - ♪ You showed me how to do 89 00:05:38,860 --> 00:05:42,777 ♪ Exactly what to do how I fell in love with you ♪ 90 00:05:42,820 --> 00:05:47,477 ♪ Oh, oh, oh, it's true, Oh, oh, I love you ♪ 91 00:05:47,521 --> 00:05:49,392 - Rock harmonies were going folk, you see, 92 00:05:49,436 --> 00:05:52,439 and we were doing rock and roll inspired folk music. 93 00:05:52,482 --> 00:05:55,746 - ♪ You showed me how to say exactly what to say ♪ 94 00:05:55,790 --> 00:05:58,532 - We did songs that were entirely different 95 00:05:58,575 --> 00:06:00,360 from anything anybody had tried before. 96 00:06:00,403 --> 00:06:02,318 - ♪ Oh, oh, oh, it's true 97 00:06:02,362 --> 00:06:04,276 - We wanted to stretch. 98 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:06,191 We wanted to push back the barriers. 99 00:06:06,235 --> 00:06:08,672 We wanted to be the innovators. 100 00:06:08,716 --> 00:06:11,501 - The Byrds--they were a major influence 101 00:06:11,545 --> 00:06:14,286 on everybody in Hollywood, really. 102 00:06:14,330 --> 00:06:17,377 Even though we had been together for quite some time, 103 00:06:17,420 --> 00:06:20,902 we were initially trying to be a clone of The Byrds. 104 00:06:20,945 --> 00:06:22,207 - I knew I could do the things 105 00:06:22,251 --> 00:06:24,035 that I saw The Byrds doing. 106 00:06:24,079 --> 00:06:26,124 Packin' the house every night, all these people jumping up 107 00:06:26,168 --> 00:06:28,300 and carrying on. So then I jumped on the wagon. 108 00:06:28,344 --> 00:06:31,086 I said, "I'm gonna do this thing until I'm capable 109 00:06:31,129 --> 00:06:32,522 of doing my thing." 110 00:06:32,566 --> 00:06:33,915 ["The Devil Went Down to Georgia" playing] 111 00:06:33,958 --> 00:06:35,525 - ♪ I went to Georgia 112 00:06:35,569 --> 00:06:38,441 ♪ I went to Florida, I went to Missi ♪ 113 00:06:38,485 --> 00:06:40,400 ♪ Tripped in Missippi, but now you... ♪ 114 00:06:40,443 --> 00:06:42,010 - There was four of them, and I made the fifth 115 00:06:42,053 --> 00:06:43,533 when I joined the group, and I said, 116 00:06:43,577 --> 00:06:45,405 "I hear you're looking for a rhythm guitarist. 117 00:06:45,448 --> 00:06:47,624 I'd give my right arm to be in your group." 118 00:06:47,668 --> 00:06:49,583 Arthur said, "No, you're gonna need it." 119 00:06:52,020 --> 00:06:55,719 - Bryn McLean lived right down the street from me. 120 00:06:55,763 --> 00:06:58,896 We lived there because mostly other musicians 121 00:06:58,940 --> 00:07:02,726 and artists lived there, and also because it was cheap. 122 00:07:02,770 --> 00:07:06,164 We used to call it Oz. 123 00:07:06,208 --> 00:07:07,992 The people that came to the clubs 124 00:07:08,036 --> 00:07:09,820 would just follow us into our houses, 125 00:07:09,864 --> 00:07:12,954 and we'd continue playing all night. 126 00:07:12,997 --> 00:07:16,131 - Once you got above 20 or 30 of us living up there, 127 00:07:16,174 --> 00:07:17,611 it was a kind of a community. 128 00:07:17,654 --> 00:07:19,177 We would go around and visit each other 129 00:07:19,221 --> 00:07:20,744 quite a bit. 130 00:07:20,788 --> 00:07:22,703 - David Crosby was quite near us, 131 00:07:22,746 --> 00:07:25,270 and gave us some pretty good advice. 132 00:07:25,314 --> 00:07:28,099 "Johnny, there's already one Byrds, 133 00:07:28,143 --> 00:07:30,319 so if you guys wanna make it, 134 00:07:30,362 --> 00:07:34,845 you're gonna have to come up with your own sound." 135 00:07:34,889 --> 00:07:36,325 In elementary school, 136 00:07:36,368 --> 00:07:38,458 one of the kids had a guitar, 137 00:07:38,501 --> 00:07:40,590 and he allowed me to hold it. 138 00:07:40,634 --> 00:07:43,201 I started strumming it, and the vibration 139 00:07:43,245 --> 00:07:45,421 just kind of tickled my soul. 140 00:07:45,465 --> 00:07:49,512 That was a love affair that's lasted to this day. 141 00:07:49,556 --> 00:07:51,296 I started playing the guitar, 142 00:07:51,340 --> 00:07:52,950 and I heard Arthur sing. 143 00:07:52,994 --> 00:07:57,041 He was also a poet, and so, we played together, 144 00:07:57,085 --> 00:07:59,391 and we had so many different names 145 00:07:59,435 --> 00:08:02,351 before we became Love. 146 00:08:02,394 --> 00:08:04,701 We just loved music. 147 00:08:04,745 --> 00:08:07,530 We would pick up little snippets of songs 148 00:08:07,574 --> 00:08:11,186 from here, or styles from there. 149 00:08:11,229 --> 00:08:14,276 Little Richard also was in the area, 150 00:08:14,319 --> 00:08:16,234 and he would give me advice 151 00:08:16,278 --> 00:08:18,585 and hints and stuff like that. 152 00:08:18,628 --> 00:08:23,241 In 1964, I went to England with Little Richard. 153 00:08:23,285 --> 00:08:24,939 ["Lucille" playing] 154 00:08:24,982 --> 00:08:26,897 - ♪ Lucille 155 00:08:26,941 --> 00:08:29,073 ♪ Why won't you do your sisters will? ♪ 156 00:08:29,117 --> 00:08:31,815 - We met these four guys there, and they used to follow 157 00:08:31,859 --> 00:08:34,818 Richard around, fawning and deferential, 158 00:08:34,862 --> 00:08:37,517 sycophants, as far as I could see. 159 00:08:39,127 --> 00:08:41,216 Later on in Los Angeles, 160 00:08:41,259 --> 00:08:43,914 I was invited to see The Beatles. 161 00:08:43,958 --> 00:08:45,742 I didn't believe it. 162 00:08:45,786 --> 00:08:48,658 These little guys that ran around, chasing Richard, 163 00:08:48,702 --> 00:08:51,835 are the biggest thing in the world. 164 00:08:51,879 --> 00:08:54,011 - The Beatles. Wow. 165 00:08:54,055 --> 00:08:55,796 It was a huge experience of life. 166 00:08:55,839 --> 00:08:59,234 We wanted every day to be a huge experience of life. 167 00:08:59,277 --> 00:09:01,366 So, when the Beatles played Ed Sullivan, 168 00:09:01,410 --> 00:09:04,761 all the folk groups went electric. 169 00:09:04,805 --> 00:09:06,850 We traded our stand up bass 170 00:09:06,894 --> 00:09:08,199 into an electric bass. 171 00:09:08,243 --> 00:09:09,853 We electrified our acoustic guitars. 172 00:09:09,897 --> 00:09:13,291 I electrified my banjo, and we got a drummer. 173 00:09:13,335 --> 00:09:17,078 ♪ why I waited around ♪ 174 00:09:17,121 --> 00:09:21,082 ♪ I wasn't running around put me down ♪ 175 00:09:21,125 --> 00:09:22,692 - That's the kind of music we wanna make. 176 00:09:22,736 --> 00:09:25,042 What are we singing about the Ox Driver for? 177 00:09:25,086 --> 00:09:26,391 We could be-- 178 00:09:26,435 --> 00:09:29,394 we could be making joyful music. 179 00:09:29,438 --> 00:09:31,396 We were booked into the Troubadour, 180 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:33,050 doing our sound check, and we plugged in 181 00:09:33,094 --> 00:09:34,443 our electric instruments, 182 00:09:34,486 --> 00:09:36,227 and Doug Weston came running down 183 00:09:36,271 --> 00:09:37,359 from the upstairs. 184 00:09:37,402 --> 00:09:39,317 "No, no, what are you doing? 185 00:09:39,361 --> 00:09:41,885 "I don't have electric music in this club. 186 00:09:41,929 --> 00:09:43,844 You know, this is a folk club." 187 00:09:43,887 --> 00:09:45,889 - The Troubadour, just a few blocks 188 00:09:45,933 --> 00:09:47,282 from Hollywood Boulevard, 189 00:09:47,325 --> 00:09:50,415 is known as an avant-garde café. 190 00:09:50,459 --> 00:09:53,201 Sundays and Mondays are Hoot nights, Hootenanny, 191 00:09:53,244 --> 00:09:55,377 that is, and the entertainment features 192 00:09:55,420 --> 00:09:57,161 half a dozen or more performers, 193 00:09:57,205 --> 00:09:59,250 who specialize in folk music. 194 00:09:59,294 --> 00:10:00,687 - The folk community back then 195 00:10:00,730 --> 00:10:03,124 were snobbish about electric music. 196 00:10:03,167 --> 00:10:06,257 They considered it bubblegum, kid stuff. 197 00:10:06,301 --> 00:10:07,911 I was opening up for Hoyt Axton, 198 00:10:07,955 --> 00:10:11,001 playing folk songs with a Beatle beat, 199 00:10:11,045 --> 00:10:13,438 and the only person who liked it was Gene Clark. 200 00:10:13,482 --> 00:10:15,527 He came backstage after my set, and said, 201 00:10:15,571 --> 00:10:17,007 "Hey, I get what you're doing. 202 00:10:17,051 --> 00:10:18,748 "I like The Beatles, I like folk music. 203 00:10:18,792 --> 00:10:20,358 Let's write some songs, and see what happens." 204 00:10:22,752 --> 00:10:24,580 - That's when I met Roger and Gene. 205 00:10:24,624 --> 00:10:26,538 They were singing songs, and I started singing 206 00:10:26,582 --> 00:10:28,279 harmony to them. They liked that. 207 00:10:28,323 --> 00:10:32,893 - ♪ You showed me how to do exactly what you do ♪ 208 00:10:32,936 --> 00:10:35,852 ♪ How I fell in love with you Oh, oh, oh, it's true ♪ 209 00:10:35,896 --> 00:10:37,898 - David knew this guy who had a recording studio 210 00:10:37,941 --> 00:10:40,814 we could use, Jim Dickson, and he became our manager, 211 00:10:40,857 --> 00:10:43,207 and we got Michael Clarke and Chris Hillman 212 00:10:43,251 --> 00:10:44,818 to join the group. 213 00:10:44,861 --> 00:10:46,646 - There wasn't a lot in common with each of us, 214 00:10:46,689 --> 00:10:48,822 but we had all come out of folk music. 215 00:10:48,865 --> 00:10:51,651 We were not a garage rock and roll band. 216 00:10:51,694 --> 00:10:53,304 We didn't have a blueprint. 217 00:10:53,348 --> 00:10:54,958 We didn't know what we were doing. 218 00:10:55,002 --> 00:10:57,657 The Byrds needed something to get us in the door. 219 00:11:00,442 --> 00:11:02,226 - Randomly, Jim Dickson heard a couple 220 00:11:02,270 --> 00:11:03,532 of record producers 221 00:11:03,575 --> 00:11:05,273 mainly talking about Bob Dylan. 222 00:11:05,316 --> 00:11:07,797 "Wow, it's a shame, Bob can't use that great new song 223 00:11:07,841 --> 00:11:09,799 you just wrote, because Ramblin' Jack Elliott, 224 00:11:09,843 --> 00:11:11,279 he was singing out of tune on it." 225 00:11:11,322 --> 00:11:13,150 ["Mr. Tambourine Man" playing] 226 00:11:13,194 --> 00:11:16,893 - ♪ Hey, Mr. Tambourine man, play a song for me ♪ 227 00:11:16,937 --> 00:11:19,983 - Bob--he never overdubbed, he just turned on the machine, 228 00:11:20,027 --> 00:11:21,985 and whatever happened happened. 229 00:11:22,029 --> 00:11:25,510 So, he decided not to use it, wouldn't go back and fix it. 230 00:11:25,554 --> 00:11:27,991 Dixon got a copy of this demo, and it was flawed, 231 00:11:28,035 --> 00:11:29,732 it couldn't be released. 232 00:11:29,776 --> 00:11:31,516 - Initially, "Mr. Tambourine Man," 233 00:11:31,560 --> 00:11:33,997 we didn't like it. And then he sat us down, 234 00:11:34,041 --> 00:11:37,000 said, "What you guys need to do is put some substance 235 00:11:37,044 --> 00:11:38,654 "and depth into your songs. 236 00:11:38,698 --> 00:11:40,830 "You wanna make a record that you're gonna like 237 00:11:40,874 --> 00:11:42,658 in 40 years." 238 00:11:44,051 --> 00:11:47,010 ["Mr. Tambourine Man" playing] 239 00:11:52,407 --> 00:11:56,411 - ♪ Hey! Mr. Tambourine man 240 00:11:56,454 --> 00:11:59,414 ♪ Play a song for me 241 00:11:59,457 --> 00:12:04,071 ♪ I'm not sleepy and there ain't no place ♪ 242 00:12:04,114 --> 00:12:07,291 ♪ I'm going to 243 00:12:07,770 --> 00:12:09,772 - I remember Bob came to Ciro's, and said, 244 00:12:09,816 --> 00:12:11,556 "Wow, man, you can dance to it." 245 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:14,690 He got on stage with us. 246 00:12:14,734 --> 00:12:16,866 - He loved what we did with "Tambourine Man." 247 00:12:16,910 --> 00:12:19,739 We took it, and we changed the groove. 248 00:12:19,782 --> 00:12:22,350 - The next day, everybody in this town 249 00:12:22,393 --> 00:12:23,917 was talking about, 250 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:25,788 "Hey, have you seen this band, The Byrds, man? 251 00:12:25,832 --> 00:12:28,835 I heard Dylan showed up there the other night." 252 00:12:28,878 --> 00:12:30,750 - People start coming in. Word of mouth, 253 00:12:30,793 --> 00:12:32,490 word of mouth, word of mouth. 254 00:12:32,534 --> 00:12:34,144 All of a sudden, people are lining up 255 00:12:34,188 --> 00:12:37,365 after about the second, third week we were there. 256 00:12:39,933 --> 00:12:42,239 - It was every young band's dream 257 00:12:42,283 --> 00:12:44,459 to catch fire, 258 00:12:44,502 --> 00:12:47,288 to become the subject of conversation. 259 00:12:49,116 --> 00:12:50,944 It was completely exciting, 260 00:12:50,987 --> 00:12:54,295 and I was a kid, and kids live on excitement. 261 00:12:55,426 --> 00:12:57,080 ["Mr. Tambourine Man playing] 262 00:12:57,124 --> 00:13:00,431 - ♪ In the jingle jangle morning ♪ 263 00:13:00,475 --> 00:13:04,958 ♪ I'll come following you 264 00:13:05,001 --> 00:13:08,265 - When I heard that music, here's this electric version 265 00:13:08,309 --> 00:13:09,963 of this song, 266 00:13:10,006 --> 00:13:11,834 it really inspired me 267 00:13:11,878 --> 00:13:15,229 to go to California to start a band. 268 00:13:26,849 --> 00:13:28,895 - This is the Buffalo Springfield. 269 00:13:28,938 --> 00:13:31,854 Brennan Stone say they'll be giant stars. 270 00:13:31,898 --> 00:13:35,162 It's up to you to make them such. 271 00:13:35,205 --> 00:13:36,337 - My name is Neil Young. 272 00:13:36,380 --> 00:13:37,686 - Hi, Neil. How do you do? 273 00:13:37,729 --> 00:13:39,340 - I'm lead guitar player. How do you do? 274 00:13:39,383 --> 00:13:41,255 - All right. - Uh, this is Richie Furay. 275 00:13:41,298 --> 00:13:42,734 - Hello, Richie. Nice to see you. 276 00:13:42,778 --> 00:13:44,258 - Good ol' Richie from Yellow Springs, Ohio. 277 00:13:44,301 --> 00:13:46,826 - Up in the back? - Big Dewey Martin. 278 00:13:46,869 --> 00:13:48,218 - Hello, Dewey. 279 00:13:48,262 --> 00:13:50,481 - Bruce Palmer from Toronto, Canada. 280 00:13:50,525 --> 00:13:51,787 Steve Stills from New Orleans. 281 00:13:51,831 --> 00:13:53,484 - Hello, Steve. Nice to see you. 282 00:13:53,528 --> 00:13:55,660 How does three Canadians and a couple of other fellas 283 00:13:55,704 --> 00:13:57,401 all fall in together? How did that happen? 284 00:13:57,445 --> 00:13:59,099 - I'd-- - They were-- 285 00:13:59,142 --> 00:14:01,449 - We knew each other from New York, 286 00:14:01,492 --> 00:14:02,929 from folk music. 287 00:14:04,234 --> 00:14:08,064 We decided we were gonna go out to California, 288 00:14:08,108 --> 00:14:09,761 Stephen and I first, 289 00:14:10,719 --> 00:14:12,068 and then Neil Young-- 290 00:14:12,112 --> 00:14:14,505 he came down to Los Angeles later on, 291 00:14:14,549 --> 00:14:15,898 but he couldn't find us. 292 00:14:15,942 --> 00:14:18,640 And so, he was actually leaving, 293 00:14:18,683 --> 00:14:21,382 going west on Sunset Boulevard. 294 00:14:21,425 --> 00:14:23,688 Stephen and I were going east. 295 00:14:23,732 --> 00:14:25,821 - And I saw him in a band 296 00:14:25,865 --> 00:14:27,344 going the other way on Sunset, 297 00:14:27,388 --> 00:14:29,259 and he stopped, and we stopped, 298 00:14:29,303 --> 00:14:31,435 and we all stopped, and then we started. 299 00:14:31,479 --> 00:14:33,524 - About three or four days after that, 300 00:14:33,568 --> 00:14:35,004 we found a drummer. 301 00:14:35,048 --> 00:14:37,615 It just all happened very fast. 302 00:14:37,659 --> 00:14:39,530 - It's a question of, okay, fellas. 303 00:14:39,574 --> 00:14:41,184 Let's get real. 304 00:14:41,228 --> 00:14:43,839 Let's do it right, professional, 305 00:14:43,883 --> 00:14:47,538 and without losing the magic of the music. 306 00:14:47,582 --> 00:14:49,714 - I ran into the Buffalo Springfield 307 00:14:49,758 --> 00:14:51,760 before they had any work in LA. 308 00:14:51,803 --> 00:14:53,196 They had just gotten together, 309 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:55,895 and I got them a job at the Whisky. 310 00:14:55,938 --> 00:14:57,853 I'm a 23-year-old kid, and I said, 311 00:14:57,897 --> 00:15:00,116 "Will you hire these guys, and they're a great band. 312 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:01,248 Trust me." 313 00:15:01,291 --> 00:15:04,251 ["Mr. Soul" playing] 314 00:15:07,776 --> 00:15:09,647 - ♪ Oh, hello, Mr. Soul 315 00:15:09,691 --> 00:15:13,129 ♪ I dropped by to pick up a reason ♪ 316 00:15:14,652 --> 00:15:17,612 ♪ For the thought that I caught that my head ♪ 317 00:15:17,655 --> 00:15:20,745 ♪ Is the event of the season 318 00:15:21,964 --> 00:15:25,228 ♪ Why in crowds just a trace of my face ♪ 319 00:15:25,272 --> 00:15:28,057 ♪ Could seem so pleasing 320 00:15:29,319 --> 00:15:31,104 ♪ I'll cop out to the change 321 00:15:31,147 --> 00:15:32,888 ♪ But a stranger is putting the tease on ♪ 322 00:15:32,932 --> 00:15:35,891 - We were playing in the Whisky a Go Go. 323 00:15:35,935 --> 00:15:37,849 We ended up being on a double bill 324 00:15:37,893 --> 00:15:40,200 with The Doors and with Love. 325 00:15:40,243 --> 00:15:43,246 - ♪ I was down on a frown when the messenger ♪ 326 00:15:43,290 --> 00:15:45,118 ♪ Brought me a letter - ♪ Brought me a letter 327 00:15:45,161 --> 00:15:47,685 - At the time, it seemed like such a big place. 328 00:15:47,729 --> 00:15:50,253 - ♪ I was raised by the praise of a fan ♪ 329 00:15:50,297 --> 00:15:52,603 ♪ Who said I upset her - ♪ Who said I upset her 330 00:15:52,647 --> 00:15:53,822 - The Beach Boys were happening, 331 00:15:53,865 --> 00:15:55,476 The Turtles were happening. 332 00:15:55,519 --> 00:15:58,435 When they recorded "Happy Together" was the time 333 00:15:58,479 --> 00:15:59,828 I lived with Mark Volman 334 00:15:59,871 --> 00:16:02,352 up on Lookout Mountain. 335 00:16:02,396 --> 00:16:05,007 - ♪ She said, "You're strange, but don't change." ♪ 336 00:16:05,051 --> 00:16:07,575 - You didn't move there because you were wealthy. 337 00:16:07,618 --> 00:16:09,707 You moved there because it was right 338 00:16:09,751 --> 00:16:11,318 in the middle of town, 339 00:16:11,361 --> 00:16:13,711 but was really cheap to live. 340 00:16:13,755 --> 00:16:15,975 Richie stayed there about a year, 341 00:16:16,018 --> 00:16:18,542 then moved down the street. 342 00:16:18,586 --> 00:16:20,457 - Laurel Canyon was a place people 343 00:16:20,501 --> 00:16:21,893 were attracted to. 344 00:16:21,937 --> 00:16:23,373 It was like a magnet. 345 00:16:23,417 --> 00:16:26,594 Neil Young, when he lived up Kirkwood, 346 00:16:26,637 --> 00:16:29,031 we were creative people. We were young. 347 00:16:29,075 --> 00:16:31,991 We were ambitious. We loved the music. 348 00:16:34,167 --> 00:16:36,560 - Okay. We're rolling. Take four. 349 00:16:36,604 --> 00:16:38,736 - We weren't required to make one song 350 00:16:38,780 --> 00:16:40,738 sound like another song. 351 00:16:41,870 --> 00:16:43,611 We did have our freedom. 352 00:16:43,654 --> 00:16:44,742 There was folk music. 353 00:16:44,786 --> 00:16:46,135 There was country music. 354 00:16:46,179 --> 00:16:48,659 Our style of rockabilly music. 355 00:16:48,703 --> 00:16:51,140 Stephen will do a Spanish song, 356 00:16:51,184 --> 00:16:53,142 a bluegrass type song. 357 00:16:53,186 --> 00:16:55,449 The spectrum that we covered 358 00:16:55,492 --> 00:16:56,754 was incredible. 359 00:16:56,798 --> 00:16:58,321 ["Broken Arrow" playing] 360 00:16:58,365 --> 00:17:02,151 - ♪ Come to see her in the river ♪ 361 00:17:02,195 --> 00:17:06,503 ♪ She'll be there to wave to you ♪ 362 00:17:06,547 --> 00:17:08,244 ♪ In the hope that you'll forgive her ♪ 363 00:17:08,288 --> 00:17:10,855 - We were just three individual songwriters, 364 00:17:10,899 --> 00:17:13,336 Neil Young, Stephen Stills, and myself, 365 00:17:13,380 --> 00:17:15,512 writing from different perspectives, 366 00:17:15,556 --> 00:17:17,036 bringing that together, 367 00:17:17,079 --> 00:17:18,385 and that's what collectively 368 00:17:18,428 --> 00:17:20,735 made us Buffalo Springfield. 369 00:17:22,084 --> 00:17:26,654 - ♪ Find out that now was the answer to answers ♪ 370 00:17:26,697 --> 00:17:30,962 ♪ That you gave later 371 00:17:31,006 --> 00:17:35,445 ♪ She did the things that we both did before ♪ 372 00:17:35,489 --> 00:17:38,057 ♪ Now and who forgave her? 373 00:17:38,100 --> 00:17:39,536 - I had a really good relationship 374 00:17:39,580 --> 00:17:41,582 with the Buffalo Springfield. 375 00:17:41,625 --> 00:17:43,279 I always had fun with them. 376 00:17:45,194 --> 00:17:48,197 They were the house band for a while at the Whisky. 377 00:17:48,241 --> 00:17:50,286 Packed every night. 378 00:17:52,854 --> 00:17:56,727 I genuinely love the music. 379 00:17:57,989 --> 00:18:00,470 I got here in '66, 380 00:18:00,514 --> 00:18:03,343 just past the folky scene. 381 00:18:03,386 --> 00:18:05,606 At first, I was considered a groupie, 382 00:18:05,649 --> 00:18:07,129 for sure. 383 00:18:07,173 --> 00:18:09,218 Then I got jobs at the Troubadour 384 00:18:09,262 --> 00:18:11,525 and at the Whisky doing the lights. 385 00:18:11,568 --> 00:18:13,135 I had to interact 386 00:18:13,179 --> 00:18:15,485 with the musicians in terms of, 387 00:18:15,529 --> 00:18:17,052 you know, setting the lights, 388 00:18:17,096 --> 00:18:19,489 the sound, and the shows, 389 00:18:19,533 --> 00:18:23,624 so I wasn't as much of a groupie anymore, you know. 390 00:18:23,667 --> 00:18:26,844 Uh, I had a legitimate job. 391 00:18:26,888 --> 00:18:29,760 I just carried my camera everywhere I went, 392 00:18:29,804 --> 00:18:31,284 enjoyed taking the pictures. 393 00:18:31,327 --> 00:18:34,548 I wanted to document what I was seeing, 394 00:18:34,591 --> 00:18:36,202 not having any idea 395 00:18:36,245 --> 00:18:39,205 that this would be interesting to somebody else. 396 00:18:41,685 --> 00:18:46,386 - ♪ She did the things that we both did before now ♪ 397 00:18:46,429 --> 00:18:51,260 ♪ And who forgave her? 398 00:18:51,304 --> 00:18:53,001 - This is The Doors. 399 00:18:54,002 --> 00:18:56,265 Jim was a great guy. I really liked him. 400 00:18:56,309 --> 00:18:58,137 He really had charisma on the stage. 401 00:18:58,180 --> 00:18:59,964 ["When The Music's Over" playing] 402 00:19:00,008 --> 00:19:05,100 - ♪ Cancel my subscription to the Resurrection ♪ 403 00:19:08,538 --> 00:19:14,370 ♪ Send my credentials to the House of Detention ♪ 404 00:19:17,286 --> 00:19:22,857 ♪ I got some friends inside 405 00:19:26,252 --> 00:19:27,688 - The Doors were the house band 406 00:19:27,731 --> 00:19:28,819 at the Whisky a Go Go. 407 00:19:28,863 --> 00:19:30,299 We were the opening act. 408 00:19:30,343 --> 00:19:31,996 God, it was amazing. 409 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:34,956 Then we played with Love, Buffalo Springfield, 410 00:19:34,999 --> 00:19:37,001 The Turtles. 411 00:19:37,045 --> 00:19:39,569 - All of a sudden, you had groups like The Doors 412 00:19:39,613 --> 00:19:41,223 that really brought 413 00:19:41,267 --> 00:19:45,488 a whole different mood to everything. 414 00:19:51,190 --> 00:19:53,583 - There were no rules anymore. 415 00:19:53,627 --> 00:19:57,065 It was a good time to be starting a band. 416 00:19:58,893 --> 00:20:00,938 - At the time, The Doors were looked at 417 00:20:00,982 --> 00:20:04,725 by some people as a gloom and doom band. 418 00:20:04,768 --> 00:20:06,248 ["Light My Fire" playing] 419 00:20:06,292 --> 00:20:08,207 - ♪ Come on, baby, light my fire ♪ 420 00:20:08,250 --> 00:20:11,079 - When in fact, The Doors were about joy, 421 00:20:11,122 --> 00:20:13,734 light, Light My Fire, 422 00:20:13,777 --> 00:20:15,518 burning up in existence. 423 00:20:15,562 --> 00:20:17,390 -♪ Fire. Yeah 424 00:20:20,915 --> 00:20:23,918 - I think we're the band you love to hate, 425 00:20:23,961 --> 00:20:26,137 universally despised. 426 00:20:26,181 --> 00:20:28,401 We're on a monstrous ego trip. 427 00:20:28,444 --> 00:20:31,055 They hate us because we're so good. 428 00:20:31,099 --> 00:20:33,188 - You want people to like you? 429 00:20:33,232 --> 00:20:36,060 - Well, I'd like them to listen. 430 00:20:36,104 --> 00:20:39,760 I'd like them to, uh, give the music a chance. 431 00:20:39,803 --> 00:20:42,937 - ♪ Try to set the night on fire ♪ 432 00:20:44,591 --> 00:20:46,375 - I mean, we knew our stuff was good. 433 00:20:46,419 --> 00:20:48,943 As good as anybody's, but that doesn't always 434 00:20:48,986 --> 00:20:51,467 translate into getting big. 435 00:20:51,511 --> 00:20:53,077 Who was gonna sign us? 436 00:20:54,427 --> 00:20:56,559 - The whole transition from folk music 437 00:20:56,603 --> 00:20:59,301 to singer-songwriters was working itself out, 438 00:20:59,345 --> 00:21:01,085 and there were not that many artists 439 00:21:01,129 --> 00:21:03,044 I wanted to record. 440 00:21:03,087 --> 00:21:05,046 I was looking for a new direction, 441 00:21:05,089 --> 00:21:06,743 and I came out here. 442 00:21:06,787 --> 00:21:09,137 I would get a free magazine, and I'd go through all 443 00:21:09,180 --> 00:21:12,619 the ads, and I came to one that said Love. 444 00:21:12,662 --> 00:21:15,883 ["Hey Joe" playing] 445 00:21:15,926 --> 00:21:17,798 - ♪ Hey, Joe 446 00:21:17,841 --> 00:21:20,583 ♪ Where you going with all that money in your hand now ♪ 447 00:21:20,627 --> 00:21:22,411 - I was gripped by the music. 448 00:21:22,455 --> 00:21:24,195 - ♪ Well, I said, hey, Joe, where are you goin'... ♪ 449 00:21:24,239 --> 00:21:26,328 - I went backstage and made them an offer, 450 00:21:26,372 --> 00:21:28,199 said, "We've never done rock and roll. 451 00:21:28,243 --> 00:21:30,506 You strike me as a good place to start." 452 00:21:30,550 --> 00:21:34,467 - ♪ She's been runnin' around with some other man now ♪ 453 00:21:34,510 --> 00:21:36,338 ♪ Well, I said, I'm goin' after my woman ♪ 454 00:21:36,382 --> 00:21:38,340 - We had been offered a contract by Capitol 455 00:21:38,384 --> 00:21:41,125 and Columbia, and a couple of other labels, 456 00:21:41,169 --> 00:21:44,999 but they wouldn't allow us to own the publishing. 457 00:21:45,042 --> 00:21:46,522 Little Richard had told me 458 00:21:46,566 --> 00:21:48,916 that's where most of the money comes from, 459 00:21:48,959 --> 00:21:50,309 owning the copyrights 460 00:21:50,352 --> 00:21:52,180 and the publishing for your songs, 461 00:21:52,223 --> 00:21:53,834 because if someone else records them, you get paid, 462 00:21:53,877 --> 00:21:57,098 or if they're used in a commercial, you get paid. 463 00:21:57,141 --> 00:21:59,579 Elektra allowed us to own the publishing. 464 00:21:59,622 --> 00:22:04,366 That's why we signed up with a relatively unknown folk label. 465 00:22:04,410 --> 00:22:07,021 - If you can come up with a distinctive sound in music, 466 00:22:07,064 --> 00:22:09,110 your chances of getting a hit are a lot better. 467 00:22:09,153 --> 00:22:11,634 This certainly has what's called a distinctive sound, 468 00:22:11,678 --> 00:22:13,157 the sound of "My Little Red Book." 469 00:22:13,201 --> 00:22:14,855 Again, here's Love. 470 00:22:14,898 --> 00:22:17,510 ["My Little Red Book" playing] 471 00:22:17,553 --> 00:22:20,426 - ♪ I just got out my little red book ♪ 472 00:22:20,469 --> 00:22:25,039 ♪ The minute that you said goodbye ♪ 473 00:22:25,082 --> 00:22:27,346 ♪ I thumbed right through my little red book ♪ 474 00:22:27,389 --> 00:22:29,739 ♪ I wasn't gonna sit and cry 475 00:22:29,783 --> 00:22:33,134 - " My Little Red Book" was a national hit. 476 00:22:33,177 --> 00:22:35,702 What Arthur and the guys did with that adaptation 477 00:22:35,745 --> 00:22:37,268 was genius. 478 00:22:37,312 --> 00:22:38,835 We all felt that it was only a matter of time 479 00:22:38,879 --> 00:22:40,620 until Love conquered America. 480 00:22:40,663 --> 00:22:42,012 - ♪ And as I held them 481 00:22:42,056 --> 00:22:44,232 ♪ All I did was to talk about you ♪ 482 00:22:44,275 --> 00:22:46,626 ♪ Hear your name and I'd start to cry ♪ 483 00:22:46,669 --> 00:22:50,325 ♪ There's just no getting over you ♪ 484 00:22:50,369 --> 00:22:53,807 - We had an issue playing other places 485 00:22:53,850 --> 00:22:56,026 that heard us professionally. 486 00:22:56,070 --> 00:22:58,246 We couldn't play in the South and all, 487 00:22:58,289 --> 00:22:59,639 because when they found out 488 00:22:59,682 --> 00:23:01,858 the racial makeup of the group, 489 00:23:01,902 --> 00:23:03,469 they would cancel bookings, 490 00:23:03,512 --> 00:23:08,125 or sometimes we wouldn't even get them at all. 491 00:23:08,169 --> 00:23:10,650 So we were not happy with Elektra Records 492 00:23:10,693 --> 00:23:11,999 because of the first album. 493 00:23:12,042 --> 00:23:13,870 We thought it was done cheaply, 494 00:23:13,914 --> 00:23:15,785 and MCA came to us 495 00:23:15,829 --> 00:23:18,701 and offered us a really tremendous deal. 496 00:23:18,745 --> 00:23:21,530 But we knew Elektra wasn't gonna let us go. 497 00:23:21,574 --> 00:23:24,185 We were their ticket into the game. 498 00:23:24,228 --> 00:23:26,317 We were the first, and at that point, 499 00:23:26,361 --> 00:23:28,929 the only rock group they had. 500 00:23:28,972 --> 00:23:31,453 Our songs were moving up the charts, 501 00:23:31,497 --> 00:23:33,977 and they were doing well with us. 502 00:23:34,021 --> 00:23:36,415 We knew that was a non-starter, 503 00:23:36,458 --> 00:23:40,288 so Arthur and I came up with the brilliant idea. 504 00:23:40,331 --> 00:23:43,247 If we hooked them up with The Doors, 505 00:23:43,291 --> 00:23:45,249 they would let us go. 506 00:23:45,293 --> 00:23:47,556 Because The Doors had a good following at the Whisky, 507 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:51,299 and the young girls just love Jim. 508 00:23:51,342 --> 00:23:54,998 But it was problematic, because Jim would get drunk. 509 00:23:55,042 --> 00:23:57,087 Playing on stage was kind of 510 00:23:57,131 --> 00:23:58,654 a problem with the venues, 511 00:23:58,698 --> 00:24:00,351 and members of his group, 512 00:24:00,395 --> 00:24:02,571 but we asked Jack to come down. 513 00:24:02,615 --> 00:24:04,094 ["Lucille" playing] 514 00:24:04,138 --> 00:24:06,357 - ♪ Lucille 515 00:24:06,401 --> 00:24:10,492 ♪ Won't you do your sister's will ♪ 516 00:24:10,536 --> 00:24:12,233 - Jim, true to form, was drunk, 517 00:24:12,276 --> 00:24:14,540 and stumbling around the stage. 518 00:24:14,583 --> 00:24:15,758 - I didn't get it. 519 00:24:15,802 --> 00:24:17,151 I was tired. 520 00:24:17,194 --> 00:24:18,979 It was 2:00 in the morning. 521 00:24:19,022 --> 00:24:21,285 - Jack said, "Hell, no." - ♪ You ran off and married 522 00:24:21,329 --> 00:24:24,288 ♪ But I love you still - Months go by, 523 00:24:24,332 --> 00:24:26,334 and we asked them, "Why don't you come 524 00:24:26,377 --> 00:24:28,510 one more time and see The Doors?" 525 00:24:28,554 --> 00:24:32,645 Jack said, "I'm not going," but we talked him into it. 526 00:24:32,688 --> 00:24:35,648 ["Break On Through" playing] 527 00:24:37,519 --> 00:24:39,826 - ♪ You know the day destroys the night ♪ 528 00:24:39,869 --> 00:24:42,611 ♪ Night divides the day 529 00:24:42,655 --> 00:24:43,830 ♪ Tried to run 530 00:24:43,873 --> 00:24:45,309 ♪ Tried to hide 531 00:24:45,353 --> 00:24:47,703 ♪ Break on through to the other side ♪ 532 00:24:47,747 --> 00:24:50,271 ♪ Break on through to the other side ♪ 533 00:24:50,314 --> 00:24:53,970 ♪ Break on through to the other side yeah ♪ 534 00:24:54,014 --> 00:24:56,059 - Jim was on his best behavior. 535 00:24:56,103 --> 00:24:58,018 Sober and in his element. 536 00:24:58,061 --> 00:25:01,064 - ♪ I found an island in your arms ♪ 537 00:25:01,108 --> 00:25:03,458 ♪ Country in your eyes 538 00:25:03,502 --> 00:25:04,938 ♪ Arms that chained us 539 00:25:04,981 --> 00:25:06,417 ♪ Eyes that lied 540 00:25:06,461 --> 00:25:08,724 ♪ Break on through to the other side ♪ 541 00:25:08,768 --> 00:25:11,727 ♪ Break on through to the other side ♪ 542 00:25:11,771 --> 00:25:13,860 ♪ Break on through, oh 543 00:25:13,903 --> 00:25:17,298 ♪ Oh, yeah - They sounded so much better. 544 00:25:17,341 --> 00:25:20,823 And Jack saw what we saw. 545 00:25:20,867 --> 00:25:22,521 - It was so magical. 546 00:25:22,564 --> 00:25:25,088 Morrison was like a comet 547 00:25:25,132 --> 00:25:26,655 streaking across the sky. 548 00:25:26,699 --> 00:25:29,397 He was incandescent and burning. 549 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:31,486 -♪ Deep and wide 550 00:25:31,530 --> 00:25:33,532 - I thought they were gonna be the most significant 551 00:25:33,575 --> 00:25:36,404 artist we have had up until that time. 552 00:25:36,447 --> 00:25:37,927 - ♪ Break on through 553 00:25:37,971 --> 00:25:39,233 ♪ Break on through 554 00:25:39,276 --> 00:25:40,756 ♪ Break on through 555 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:42,105 ♪ Break on through 556 00:25:42,149 --> 00:25:43,803 ♪ Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah 557 00:25:43,846 --> 00:25:46,675 - That same night, they signed The Doors. 558 00:25:46,719 --> 00:25:48,590 We thought, "Great. Now it's cool. 559 00:25:48,634 --> 00:25:51,898 They gonna let us go." And they said, "Hell, no. 560 00:25:51,941 --> 00:25:53,856 You guys aren't going." 561 00:25:53,900 --> 00:25:55,554 - All of a sudden, man, 562 00:25:55,597 --> 00:26:00,515 they're pushing The Doors like crazy, you know. 563 00:26:00,559 --> 00:26:05,085 - All of the resources that had been allocated to us 564 00:26:05,128 --> 00:26:08,088 were moved to The Doors. 565 00:26:08,131 --> 00:26:11,265 Publicity and radio, 566 00:26:11,308 --> 00:26:12,527 shots in magazines, 567 00:26:12,571 --> 00:26:14,398 and "The Ed Sullivan Show." 568 00:26:14,442 --> 00:26:16,749 - ♪ Break on through to the other side ♪ 569 00:26:16,792 --> 00:26:19,490 ♪ Break on through to the other side ♪ 570 00:26:19,534 --> 00:26:22,363 - We basically shot ourselves in the ass, 571 00:26:22,406 --> 00:26:23,712 by doing that. 572 00:26:23,756 --> 00:26:26,585 We were put on the back burner. 573 00:26:26,628 --> 00:26:28,935 - Jack had this idea to do a billboard 574 00:26:28,978 --> 00:26:31,502 for The Doors' first album. 575 00:26:31,546 --> 00:26:35,245 Nobody had ever had one before for a record. 576 00:26:35,289 --> 00:26:37,770 They let us climb up on top of it. 577 00:26:39,162 --> 00:26:40,599 And it was pretty cool. 578 00:26:41,338 --> 00:26:42,905 - I had realized 579 00:26:42,949 --> 00:26:45,386 my Southern California dream at that point. 580 00:26:45,429 --> 00:26:47,475 We could pay the rent. 581 00:26:47,518 --> 00:26:51,087 - John and I got a place up on Lookout, 582 00:26:51,131 --> 00:26:53,568 nice view of the whole Canyon. 583 00:26:55,788 --> 00:26:58,834 And Jim got a place right next to us. 584 00:26:58,878 --> 00:27:01,402 - That was, for Jim, the perfect setting 585 00:27:01,445 --> 00:27:03,273 to do his music. 586 00:27:03,317 --> 00:27:05,406 He was, at heart, a poet, 587 00:27:05,449 --> 00:27:08,148 but he set his poetry to music. 588 00:27:09,671 --> 00:27:11,455 - One night up in Laurel Canyon, 589 00:27:11,499 --> 00:27:14,458 Jim was in one of his moods where he was just 590 00:27:14,502 --> 00:27:17,026 down in the doldrums. 591 00:27:17,070 --> 00:27:18,767 - I said, "Hey, let's go up 592 00:27:18,811 --> 00:27:21,552 "to the top of Laurel Canyon and watch the sun come up. 593 00:27:21,596 --> 00:27:24,164 Maybe that'll give you a different mood." 594 00:27:24,207 --> 00:27:25,644 And it worked. 595 00:27:25,687 --> 00:27:29,125 He realized that people are strange. 596 00:27:29,169 --> 00:27:31,562 - ♪ When you're strange 597 00:27:31,606 --> 00:27:35,175 ♪ Faces come out of the rain 598 00:27:35,218 --> 00:27:37,568 ♪ When you're strange 599 00:27:37,612 --> 00:27:40,659 ♪ No one remembers your name 600 00:27:40,702 --> 00:27:42,530 ♪ When you're strange 601 00:27:42,573 --> 00:27:45,707 - Jim always says, write about something universal, 602 00:27:45,751 --> 00:27:49,711 that 40 years from now might still mean something. 603 00:27:49,755 --> 00:27:53,672 - ♪ People are strange when you're a stranger ♪ 604 00:27:53,715 --> 00:27:57,719 ♪ Faces look ugly when you're alone ♪ 605 00:27:57,763 --> 00:28:00,983 - The Doors had just broken before we left Phoenix. 606 00:28:01,027 --> 00:28:02,942 Jim Morrison was the most outrageous character 607 00:28:02,985 --> 00:28:05,901 at the time, but he was still a hero. 608 00:28:05,945 --> 00:28:07,337 Rock needs a villain. 609 00:28:10,776 --> 00:28:14,605 - Alice Cooper, we saw horror and comedy in rock 610 00:28:14,649 --> 00:28:16,216 all in bed together. 611 00:28:16,259 --> 00:28:17,696 We were theatrical. 612 00:28:17,739 --> 00:28:19,219 I played the character Alice Cooper. 613 00:28:19,262 --> 00:28:20,873 This villain born. 614 00:28:20,916 --> 00:28:23,614 We had become the biggest band in Phoenix, 615 00:28:23,658 --> 00:28:26,052 quit college, and moved to Los Angeles, 616 00:28:26,095 --> 00:28:28,750 not realizing that every single best band 617 00:28:28,794 --> 00:28:31,013 in every single city was there in LA. 618 00:28:31,057 --> 00:28:32,841 It was pretty competitive. 619 00:28:32,885 --> 00:28:34,713 We had been turned down by every label. 620 00:28:34,756 --> 00:28:36,715 They wanted the next Buffalo Springfield. 621 00:28:36,758 --> 00:28:38,760 They didn't wanna any freaks like us. 622 00:28:38,804 --> 00:28:42,459 The whole band was like a walking nightmare. 623 00:28:42,503 --> 00:28:44,070 There's real blood on the stage. 624 00:28:44,113 --> 00:28:45,419 ["Nobody Likes Me" playing] 625 00:28:45,462 --> 00:28:48,074 - ♪ Nobody likes me 626 00:28:48,117 --> 00:28:51,773 ♪ It's all my fault 627 00:28:51,817 --> 00:28:54,210 - This one night, the music we played 628 00:28:54,254 --> 00:28:55,864 was just white noise. 629 00:28:55,908 --> 00:28:57,736 - The audience could not take it. 630 00:28:57,779 --> 00:29:00,390 Within four minutes, we had cleared the place. 631 00:29:00,434 --> 00:29:02,479 Only one person left standing there, 632 00:29:02,523 --> 00:29:04,090 and it was Frank Zappa. 633 00:29:04,133 --> 00:29:07,746 Frank looked at us. He said, "What was that?" 634 00:29:07,789 --> 00:29:09,878 - People had a very violent response to it. 635 00:29:09,922 --> 00:29:11,488 Invariably, when they would play, 636 00:29:11,532 --> 00:29:12,663 people would leave the room, 637 00:29:12,707 --> 00:29:14,404 and I knew they had something. 638 00:29:14,448 --> 00:29:17,016 - But Frank Zappa was just starting his record label, 639 00:29:17,059 --> 00:29:18,582 Bizarre Records. 640 00:29:18,626 --> 00:29:21,063 And he wanted some new look, some new sound. 641 00:29:21,107 --> 00:29:22,804 So, Frank says, "Okay. 642 00:29:22,848 --> 00:29:24,240 "Why don't you guys come over to my house at 7:00, 643 00:29:24,284 --> 00:29:26,068 and I'll listen to you?" 644 00:29:26,112 --> 00:29:28,723 We were so anxious because everybody wanted to 645 00:29:28,767 --> 00:29:30,769 meet Frank Zappa. In the music business, 646 00:29:30,812 --> 00:29:33,597 there was nobody more revered. 647 00:29:33,641 --> 00:29:36,035 Zappa was the maestro. 648 00:29:36,078 --> 00:29:39,386 So we go to Frank's house in Laurel Canyon, 649 00:29:39,429 --> 00:29:42,650 the log cabin, at 7:00 in the morning. 650 00:29:42,693 --> 00:29:44,304 We just set up down in the basement, 651 00:29:44,347 --> 00:29:47,611 and started playing. 652 00:29:47,655 --> 00:29:49,352 Our hair was down to our waist. 653 00:29:49,396 --> 00:29:51,485 We were in chrome pants. 654 00:29:52,791 --> 00:29:55,184 Frank comes down the stairs, he's got his robe on 655 00:29:55,228 --> 00:29:56,577 and a coffee. 656 00:29:56,620 --> 00:29:58,448 He goes, "What are you doing?" 657 00:29:58,492 --> 00:29:59,928 I said, "Well, you said 7:00." 658 00:29:59,972 --> 00:30:02,583 And he said, "I meant 7:00 at night. 659 00:30:02,626 --> 00:30:04,411 Go ahead. Go ahead." 660 00:30:04,454 --> 00:30:08,328 - ♪ Very rarely worry utmost constantly ♪ 661 00:30:08,371 --> 00:30:11,853 ♪ Could you be receptive 662 00:30:11,897 --> 00:30:13,637 - Frank listened, and he goes, 663 00:30:13,681 --> 00:30:15,814 "The song doesn't go anywhere. It just stops." 664 00:30:15,857 --> 00:30:17,641 And I went, "Well, is that good or bad?" 665 00:30:17,685 --> 00:30:19,339 And he goes, "Oh, no, no. I'm gonna sign you 666 00:30:19,382 --> 00:30:21,080 because I don't get it." 667 00:30:21,123 --> 00:30:23,691 - The record company that I had was called Bizarre. 668 00:30:23,734 --> 00:30:27,129 So, I figured, well, here we go. 669 00:30:27,173 --> 00:30:30,219 - Frank produced the first album for us. 670 00:30:30,263 --> 00:30:32,091 When I finally could afford to buy a house, 671 00:30:32,134 --> 00:30:36,269 I bought a house right above Frank's log cabin. 672 00:30:36,312 --> 00:30:37,966 It was a very odd place to be 673 00:30:38,010 --> 00:30:40,621 because it was right next door to Micky Dolenz 674 00:30:40,664 --> 00:30:42,841 from the Monkees. 675 00:30:42,884 --> 00:30:45,887 And the club house was Frank's house. 676 00:30:45,931 --> 00:30:48,281 You might see two or three of The Mothers of Invention, 677 00:30:48,324 --> 00:30:51,153 Frank's band, the most underground group, 678 00:30:51,197 --> 00:30:54,243 sitting there talking to Davy Jones and Micky Dolenz 679 00:30:54,287 --> 00:30:56,376 from The Monkees. 680 00:30:56,419 --> 00:30:58,117 And I was Alice Cooper. 681 00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:00,989 - Alice Cooper, that was a different kind of music. 682 00:31:01,033 --> 00:31:03,209 But nonetheless, he lived in Laurel Canyon. 683 00:31:03,252 --> 00:31:07,387 It wasn't all peace and love hippies up there. 684 00:31:07,430 --> 00:31:09,041 - Everybody was a fraternity. 685 00:31:09,084 --> 00:31:11,347 You're The Mothers, we're The Monkees, so what? 686 00:31:11,391 --> 00:31:13,262 ["The Monkees" playing] 687 00:31:17,223 --> 00:31:19,660 - ♪ Hey, hey, we're The Monkees ♪ 688 00:31:19,703 --> 00:31:21,749 ♪ You never know where we'll be found ♪ 689 00:31:21,792 --> 00:31:23,272 - And now, a remembrance. 690 00:31:23,316 --> 00:31:26,058 Peter Tork, best known as the keyboardist 691 00:31:26,101 --> 00:31:30,584 and bassist for the 1960s hit band The Monkees, has died. 692 00:31:30,627 --> 00:31:31,933 - Yeah. You know what? 693 00:31:31,977 --> 00:31:33,717 I should put a picture of Peter Tork up 694 00:31:33,761 --> 00:31:37,460 on my Facebook on The Monkees set, 695 00:31:37,504 --> 00:31:39,593 okay? Bye. 696 00:31:42,030 --> 00:31:46,295 In the '60s, we wanted to learn, just awaken, 697 00:31:46,339 --> 00:31:48,297 just kind of awaken your imagination 698 00:31:48,341 --> 00:31:49,951 and your thought. 699 00:31:49,995 --> 00:31:53,563 We all started reading the Indian gurus, 700 00:31:53,607 --> 00:31:56,044 the book called "Autobiography of a Yogi," 701 00:31:56,088 --> 00:32:00,831 and that really opened up my life, reading that book. 702 00:32:00,875 --> 00:32:03,008 We're all here to learn. 703 00:32:03,051 --> 00:32:04,052 We're all students, 704 00:32:04,096 --> 00:32:05,271 but you should think of yourself 705 00:32:05,314 --> 00:32:07,403 as the only student, 706 00:32:07,447 --> 00:32:09,884 and everybody else is your teacher. 707 00:32:11,581 --> 00:32:13,322 When you die, you don't die. 708 00:32:13,366 --> 00:32:14,976 You just leave your body. 709 00:32:15,020 --> 00:32:17,326 And it's just like walking into another room. 710 00:32:17,370 --> 00:32:19,938 I bought a stack of them, never given one 711 00:32:19,981 --> 00:32:22,636 to Peter Tork on The Monkees set. 712 00:32:22,679 --> 00:32:24,072 I did a group shot 713 00:32:24,116 --> 00:32:25,769 of The Monkees sitting on a couch, 714 00:32:25,813 --> 00:32:27,423 and he was reading the Yogananda book. 715 00:32:27,467 --> 00:32:29,643 I felt so good about that. 716 00:32:30,644 --> 00:32:34,604 And today, he walked into the other room. 717 00:32:34,648 --> 00:32:36,432 He left the mortal coil. 718 00:32:36,476 --> 00:32:38,565 He left. He left us. 719 00:32:43,570 --> 00:32:47,574 In about '65, when they were auditioning for players 720 00:32:47,617 --> 00:32:49,097 of The Monkees, every musician 721 00:32:49,141 --> 00:32:51,839 went down there. 722 00:32:51,882 --> 00:32:54,798 And Stephen Stills almost was one of The Monkees. 723 00:32:54,842 --> 00:32:56,713 He went to audition, and they said, 724 00:32:56,757 --> 00:32:58,628 "Well, your tooth doesn't really work." 725 00:32:58,672 --> 00:33:00,979 He had a snaggletooth. 726 00:33:01,022 --> 00:33:03,111 He said, "Well, let me send my roommate in 727 00:33:03,155 --> 00:33:05,200 to see you guys." 728 00:33:06,854 --> 00:33:08,682 - And that was Peter Tork. 729 00:33:11,554 --> 00:33:13,817 -Why do you wanna be a Monkee? 730 00:33:13,861 --> 00:33:15,645 - Well, it's my natural inheritance. 731 00:33:17,169 --> 00:33:19,040 - ♪ Hey, hey, we're The Monkees ♪ 732 00:33:19,084 --> 00:33:21,173 ♪ And people say we monkey around ♪ 733 00:33:21,216 --> 00:33:22,826 - The Monkees, as a whole thing, 734 00:33:22,870 --> 00:33:24,176 was thought of as a package 735 00:33:24,219 --> 00:33:26,265 for actors who played characters 736 00:33:26,308 --> 00:33:28,267 with their own names. 737 00:33:28,310 --> 00:33:30,269 - ♪ We're just trying to be friendly ♪ 738 00:33:30,312 --> 00:33:33,011 - The music was not terribly representative of the '60s. 739 00:33:33,054 --> 00:33:34,838 It certainly didn't break any new ground. 740 00:33:34,882 --> 00:33:36,797 It was just good bubble gum pop music. 741 00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:40,061 - ♪ And we've got something to say ♪ 742 00:33:40,105 --> 00:33:42,324 ♪ Hey, hey, we're The Monkees ♪ 743 00:33:42,368 --> 00:33:45,371 ♪ You never know where we'll be found ♪ 744 00:33:45,414 --> 00:33:48,156 ♪ So you'd better get ready 745 00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:52,378 ♪ We may be coming to your town ♪ 746 00:33:52,421 --> 00:33:54,858 - Now, for the people who haven't caught your TV show, 747 00:33:54,902 --> 00:33:56,599 what kind of things happen on it? 748 00:33:56,643 --> 00:33:57,992 - In a nutshell, it's a cross between 749 00:33:58,036 --> 00:33:59,602 the Marx Brothers and The Beatles. 750 00:33:59,646 --> 00:34:01,039 - Uh-hmm. - And it's like a situation 751 00:34:01,082 --> 00:34:02,997 about four guys in a rock and roll band 752 00:34:03,041 --> 00:34:05,043 that just get themselves in all kinds of mix-ups. 753 00:34:05,086 --> 00:34:06,914 ["Last Train to Clarksville" playing] 754 00:34:06,957 --> 00:34:09,134 - ♪ Take the last train to Clarksville ♪ 755 00:34:09,177 --> 00:34:11,745 ♪ And I'll meet you at the station ♪ 756 00:34:11,788 --> 00:34:13,703 ♪ You can be there by 4:30 - I knew The Monkees 757 00:34:13,747 --> 00:34:15,401 from Laurel Canyon. 758 00:34:15,444 --> 00:34:19,231 I was coming down to the set a lot to take pictures. 759 00:34:21,102 --> 00:34:23,583 It was such a silly show, but it was fun. 760 00:34:23,626 --> 00:34:25,933 It was supposed to be a rip-off of The Beatles. 761 00:34:25,976 --> 00:34:29,067 Four young guys, musicians, living together. 762 00:34:30,416 --> 00:34:33,462 - "The Monkees" was about an imaginary group 763 00:34:33,506 --> 00:34:35,551 who wanted to be The Beatles, 764 00:34:35,595 --> 00:34:37,727 and never made it. 765 00:34:37,771 --> 00:34:41,122 It spoke to all those kids trying, 766 00:34:41,166 --> 00:34:43,777 practicing, and playing in their garages, 767 00:34:43,820 --> 00:34:45,300 in their living rooms, 768 00:34:45,344 --> 00:34:47,476 in their basements. It was in the air. 769 00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:51,393 - ♪ And I don't know if I'm ever coming home ♪ 770 00:34:51,437 --> 00:34:54,309 - The record companies, television, film companies, 771 00:34:54,353 --> 00:34:57,704 and they saw this new generation coming along. 772 00:34:57,747 --> 00:35:00,489 There was a huge publicity push for us 773 00:35:00,533 --> 00:35:03,753 and the Lauren Canyon scene, shall we say. 774 00:35:03,797 --> 00:35:07,105 - ♪ And a bit of conversation 775 00:35:07,148 --> 00:35:09,411 ♪ Oh, no, no, no 776 00:35:09,455 --> 00:35:12,240 ♪ Oh, no, no, no - The place I moved into 777 00:35:12,284 --> 00:35:14,068 looked like you're in the middle 778 00:35:14,112 --> 00:35:15,939 of the Rocky Mountains. It was an old cabin 779 00:35:15,983 --> 00:35:17,637 a Disney animator had built, and it looked like 780 00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:20,901 a Swiss chalet, massive pine trees, 781 00:35:20,944 --> 00:35:22,424 rock gardens. 782 00:35:22,468 --> 00:35:25,035 It did turn out to be a gathering place. 783 00:35:25,079 --> 00:35:27,603 We'd began to throw these soirees 784 00:35:27,647 --> 00:35:30,780 along with a ping pong tournament. 785 00:35:30,824 --> 00:35:34,393 - Up the street were The Turtles, 786 00:35:34,436 --> 00:35:36,656 and Zappa was a little further down. 787 00:35:36,699 --> 00:35:39,137 People were just everywhere, 788 00:35:39,180 --> 00:35:42,009 literally wandering around the little streets, 789 00:35:42,052 --> 00:35:44,620 not even knocking on your door, 790 00:35:44,664 --> 00:35:46,056 just walking in, "How you doing? 791 00:35:46,100 --> 00:35:47,449 What do you got to eat?" 792 00:35:47,493 --> 00:35:50,060 "Stephen, oh, good to see you." 793 00:35:50,104 --> 00:35:52,628 It was a very small community of musicians 794 00:35:52,672 --> 00:35:54,674 and long-haired weirdoes. 795 00:35:54,717 --> 00:35:56,502 - It was a friendly Canyon. 796 00:35:56,545 --> 00:35:58,634 People were very open. 797 00:35:58,678 --> 00:36:01,159 I lived on Lookout Mountain, 798 00:36:01,202 --> 00:36:04,074 and then I moved to Tork's house. 799 00:36:04,118 --> 00:36:06,468 Peter was like my best friend. 800 00:36:06,512 --> 00:36:08,818 I was always taking pictures of Peter. 801 00:36:08,862 --> 00:36:11,517 I took more pictures of him than anybody else. 802 00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:14,868 So good. A mensch, as they say. 803 00:36:14,911 --> 00:36:16,957 - He was a really lovely guy, 804 00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:18,611 and I enjoyed being around him. 805 00:36:18,654 --> 00:36:20,830 Except Peter was a nudist. 806 00:36:20,874 --> 00:36:24,269 I had just got a really cool love seat, and I come home, 807 00:36:24,312 --> 00:36:28,186 and there is butt-naked Peter, sitting on my love seat. 808 00:36:28,229 --> 00:36:30,362 I wasn't pleased with that. 809 00:36:30,405 --> 00:36:32,146 - That's me playing the banjo. And I'm gonna do some more 810 00:36:32,190 --> 00:36:34,409 of that. I hope you're ready. 811 00:36:34,453 --> 00:36:37,195 - Peter--he had this great house on the other side 812 00:36:37,238 --> 00:36:40,459 of Laurel Canyon, on the Valley side. 813 00:36:40,502 --> 00:36:42,896 Swimming pool, and a dressing room, 814 00:36:42,939 --> 00:36:44,289 great view. 815 00:36:44,332 --> 00:36:47,205 Harrison Ford built his music room, 816 00:36:47,248 --> 00:36:48,554 and there were a lot of people, 817 00:36:48,597 --> 00:36:49,859 just came to hang out, 818 00:36:49,903 --> 00:36:51,470 smoke pot. 819 00:36:51,513 --> 00:36:54,299 The Beatles, Buffalo Springfield. 820 00:36:54,342 --> 00:36:56,649 You know, it was fun, 821 00:36:56,692 --> 00:36:58,390 and no responsibilities. 822 00:36:58,433 --> 00:37:01,306 They were all playing at the local clubs. 823 00:37:01,349 --> 00:37:03,482 And when I think about it now, 824 00:37:03,525 --> 00:37:07,660 we were so, you know, in our little bubble. 825 00:37:07,703 --> 00:37:09,314 We were so apolitical. 826 00:37:09,357 --> 00:37:12,273 The group of people that hung out in these clubs 827 00:37:12,317 --> 00:37:14,057 loved the music and everything, 828 00:37:14,101 --> 00:37:16,277 but there was far more going on in the world, 829 00:37:16,321 --> 00:37:19,193 and it took a while for us to evolve, you know, 830 00:37:19,237 --> 00:37:21,326 and get to that place where we cared. 831 00:37:26,461 --> 00:37:30,248 - The commercial merchants on Sunset Boulevard, 832 00:37:30,291 --> 00:37:33,294 they had decided that the element of young people 833 00:37:33,338 --> 00:37:36,776 that was on the street every night 834 00:37:36,819 --> 00:37:41,171 was not conducive to commercial enterprise. 835 00:37:41,215 --> 00:37:43,086 - But just because we're not going along with society, 836 00:37:43,130 --> 00:37:44,653 like everybody else goes-- they want everybody 837 00:37:44,697 --> 00:37:46,307 to do the same thing. All they want you to do 838 00:37:46,351 --> 00:37:47,917 is they want you to grow up, get an education, 839 00:37:47,961 --> 00:37:49,397 raise children, and die. 840 00:37:49,441 --> 00:37:51,269 - I got it. - There's been a lot of talk 841 00:37:51,312 --> 00:37:52,792 about the riots that have been going on 842 00:37:52,835 --> 00:37:54,228 in the Sunset Strip. 843 00:37:54,272 --> 00:37:56,056 - They haven't really been riots. 844 00:37:56,099 --> 00:37:57,927 And in actuality, since I-- since I was there, 845 00:37:57,971 --> 00:37:59,538 they'd been demonstrations. 846 00:37:59,581 --> 00:38:02,932 - Well, it's mostly kids from the ages of 15 to 20. 847 00:38:02,976 --> 00:38:06,632 There's a 10:00 curfew imposed on these young people. 848 00:38:06,675 --> 00:38:10,418 Under 18, it's a California law that you're not able 849 00:38:10,462 --> 00:38:12,725 to go into a teenage night club. 850 00:38:12,768 --> 00:38:16,206 - There was a club called Pandora's Box, 851 00:38:16,250 --> 00:38:18,339 where Crescent Height, Sunset Boulevard, 852 00:38:18,383 --> 00:38:20,820 and Laurel Canyon all came together. 853 00:38:20,863 --> 00:38:24,302 The kids gathered there, and Stephen was just observing 854 00:38:24,345 --> 00:38:28,349 what was going on one night, coming home from the Whisky. 855 00:38:28,393 --> 00:38:31,744 - What happened was just a bunch of kids got together 856 00:38:31,787 --> 00:38:34,660 on a street corner, and said, 857 00:38:34,703 --> 00:38:36,662 "We aren't moving." 858 00:38:36,705 --> 00:38:38,228 Then about three busloads 859 00:38:38,272 --> 00:38:41,580 of the Los Angeles Police showed up. 860 00:38:50,632 --> 00:38:54,419 - And they say, "Jesus, America is in great danger 861 00:38:54,462 --> 00:38:56,899 of turning politically to the right." 862 00:38:56,943 --> 00:38:58,988 It's the fascist stories. - Move out. 863 00:38:59,032 --> 00:39:00,512 - I get home, and I'd run, and I'd pick up 864 00:39:00,555 --> 00:39:02,122 my acoustic guitar, 865 00:39:02,165 --> 00:39:03,819 and all of a sudden, it turned into a song. 866 00:39:03,863 --> 00:39:06,387 - ♪ It's time we stop, hey, what's that sound ♪ 867 00:39:06,431 --> 00:39:09,521 ♪ Everybody look what's going down ♪ 868 00:39:11,218 --> 00:39:12,915 - A lot of people wanna apply the song 869 00:39:12,959 --> 00:39:14,395 to the Vietnam War. 870 00:39:14,439 --> 00:39:16,223 That's what makes the song so special, 871 00:39:16,266 --> 00:39:19,661 how the audience interpret it for themselves. 872 00:39:19,705 --> 00:39:22,577 - ♪ What a field-day for the heat ♪ 873 00:39:22,621 --> 00:39:25,188 - That war was an undercurrent of our lives. 874 00:39:25,232 --> 00:39:27,408 We were right at the age where we would be 875 00:39:27,452 --> 00:39:29,758 first in line to be shipped over there, 876 00:39:29,802 --> 00:39:32,892 so we were all concerned that they were gonna take us 877 00:39:32,935 --> 00:39:34,197 out of Oz, and send us 878 00:39:34,241 --> 00:39:37,636 into some godforsaken jungle. 879 00:39:37,679 --> 00:39:40,639 - ♪ It's time we stop, hey, what's that sound ♪ 880 00:39:40,682 --> 00:39:43,990 ♪ Everybody look what's going down ♪ 881 00:39:45,252 --> 00:39:47,863 - People started, like, tuning into the news 882 00:39:47,907 --> 00:39:51,040 and realizing that Sunset Boulevard 883 00:39:51,084 --> 00:39:53,434 was not the end-all and be all of the world. 884 00:39:53,478 --> 00:39:56,437 There were things going on out there. 885 00:39:56,481 --> 00:39:58,744 - You see the flames coming out of the buildings 886 00:39:58,787 --> 00:40:00,223 directly across the street. 887 00:40:00,267 --> 00:40:01,790 - What leads a person to do this, 888 00:40:01,834 --> 00:40:04,663 bring about a situation that might explode? 889 00:40:04,706 --> 00:40:07,405 Maybe we have something to do with it. 890 00:40:07,448 --> 00:40:10,190 - ♪ You step out of line, the man come ♪ 891 00:40:10,233 --> 00:40:11,800 ♪ And take you away 892 00:40:11,844 --> 00:40:14,716 - People started to come out of their own egos. 893 00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:18,851 The songs changed and became much more relevant. 894 00:40:18,894 --> 00:40:20,374 - ♪ Hey, what's that sound 895 00:40:20,418 --> 00:40:22,028 ♪ Everybody look what's going down ♪ 896 00:40:22,071 --> 00:40:23,159 ♪ It's time to stop now 897 00:40:23,203 --> 00:40:24,596 ♪ What's that sound? 898 00:40:24,639 --> 00:40:25,858 - Protests, 899 00:40:25,901 --> 00:40:27,425 integration-- 900 00:40:27,468 --> 00:40:30,732 it was like the collision of these meteors 901 00:40:30,776 --> 00:40:33,213 all over the United States. 902 00:40:33,256 --> 00:40:38,087 There was a freedom that exploded the music, 903 00:40:38,131 --> 00:40:39,872 the fashion. 904 00:40:39,915 --> 00:40:42,222 The '60s were a change 905 00:40:42,265 --> 00:40:45,443 in almost every facet of our lives. 906 00:40:49,142 --> 00:40:52,232 - We had sort of a communal type existence. 907 00:40:52,275 --> 00:40:55,104 We wanted a name that would indicate 908 00:40:55,148 --> 00:40:57,759 that there were both men and women in the group, 909 00:40:57,803 --> 00:40:59,282 because it was the first group 910 00:40:59,326 --> 00:41:01,894 that actually was sexually integrated. 911 00:41:01,937 --> 00:41:05,027 - When we had formed The Mamas & The Papas, 912 00:41:05,071 --> 00:41:06,507 I was with John Phillips. 913 00:41:06,551 --> 00:41:08,596 We'd been married for about a year. 914 00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:11,599 - John has written an epic tone poem 915 00:41:11,643 --> 00:41:12,905 of historical nature, 916 00:41:12,948 --> 00:41:14,341 describing our very get together, 917 00:41:14,384 --> 00:41:16,909 and so we like to sing it for you now. 918 00:41:16,952 --> 00:41:18,171 Cue the tape. 919 00:41:18,214 --> 00:41:21,479 ["Creeque Alley" playing] 920 00:41:24,786 --> 00:41:28,137 - ♪ John and Mitchy were getting kind of itchy ♪ 921 00:41:28,181 --> 00:41:31,576 ♪ Just to leave the folk music behind ♪ 922 00:41:31,619 --> 00:41:34,796 ♪ Zal and Denny, working for a penny ♪ 923 00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:38,060 ♪ Trying to get a fish on the line ♪ 924 00:41:38,104 --> 00:41:41,629 ♪ In a coffee house Sebastian sat ♪ 925 00:41:41,673 --> 00:41:44,850 ♪ And after every number they'd pass the hat ♪ 926 00:41:44,893 --> 00:41:49,376 ♪ McGuinn and McGuire just a-getting higher in LA ♪ 927 00:41:49,419 --> 00:41:52,074 ♪ You know where that's at 928 00:41:52,118 --> 00:41:53,989 ♪ And no one's getting fat 929 00:41:54,033 --> 00:41:56,818 ♪ Except Mama Cass 930 00:41:56,862 --> 00:41:59,517 - "And no one's getting fat except Mama Cass." 931 00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:01,954 John came up with the lyric, and I said, 932 00:42:01,997 --> 00:42:03,999 "Yeah, but what are really gonna say there?" 933 00:42:04,043 --> 00:42:05,610 He says, "That's the lyric." 934 00:42:05,653 --> 00:42:10,658 And she laughs so hard. She said, "I love that." 935 00:42:10,702 --> 00:42:13,269 - I think that we were offensive 936 00:42:13,313 --> 00:42:14,967 to the point of being inoffensive. 937 00:42:15,010 --> 00:42:17,360 There were things about the group physically 938 00:42:17,404 --> 00:42:19,232 that startled people. 939 00:42:19,275 --> 00:42:20,755 The fact that these four people 940 00:42:20,799 --> 00:42:22,670 would come together and look like that, 941 00:42:22,714 --> 00:42:25,934 and make that kind of music live in concert. 942 00:42:25,978 --> 00:42:27,849 - ♪ And no one's getting fat 943 00:42:27,893 --> 00:42:30,373 ♪ Except Mama Cass 944 00:42:30,417 --> 00:42:31,810 - The Mamas & The Papas sound 945 00:42:31,853 --> 00:42:34,247 was a combination of the blues, 946 00:42:34,290 --> 00:42:37,380 rock and roll, jazz, folk. 947 00:42:37,424 --> 00:42:39,731 It was the first time that those influences 948 00:42:39,774 --> 00:42:42,429 had been brought together in pop music. 949 00:42:42,472 --> 00:42:47,260 - ♪ Like a California dreaming is becoming a reality ♪ 950 00:42:50,872 --> 00:42:54,659 ♪ Becoming a reality 951 00:43:01,230 --> 00:43:03,189 - At that point, Laurel Canyon 952 00:43:03,232 --> 00:43:04,756 was very well-developed. 953 00:43:04,799 --> 00:43:06,496 There was a charm to it, 954 00:43:06,540 --> 00:43:09,891 very green, cute little houses. 955 00:43:09,935 --> 00:43:13,416 Most musicians really were coming from New York. 956 00:43:13,460 --> 00:43:16,811 When we all heard The Byrds had a hit, 957 00:43:16,855 --> 00:43:20,162 everything kind of shifted from New York to California 958 00:43:20,206 --> 00:43:22,077 in the music business. 959 00:43:22,121 --> 00:43:23,731 You'd have a friend who'd say, 960 00:43:23,775 --> 00:43:25,385 "If you're looking for a place, you ought to try 961 00:43:25,428 --> 00:43:28,083 some place up in Laurel Canyon." 962 00:43:28,127 --> 00:43:32,087 That's how people ended up there. 963 00:43:32,131 --> 00:43:36,309 John and I lived on Lookout Mountain with Denny. 964 00:43:38,006 --> 00:43:39,617 I was pretty insulated 965 00:43:39,660 --> 00:43:42,881 with my relationship with John. 966 00:43:47,276 --> 00:43:49,365 - Michelle and I had an affair. 967 00:43:49,409 --> 00:43:52,194 That was just a pure and simple mistake. 968 00:43:52,238 --> 00:43:54,632 - When this surfaced, 969 00:43:54,675 --> 00:43:57,722 it was very hard for John to accept 970 00:43:57,765 --> 00:43:59,288 that his wife and his best friend 971 00:43:59,332 --> 00:44:01,987 had had an affair. 972 00:44:02,030 --> 00:44:03,423 But to Cass, 973 00:44:03,466 --> 00:44:05,643 it was the greatest betrayal of all, 974 00:44:05,686 --> 00:44:08,384 because she was very much in love with Denny, 975 00:44:08,428 --> 00:44:10,822 and she had always hoped that someday, 976 00:44:10,865 --> 00:44:14,086 she and Denny would actually be together. 977 00:44:14,129 --> 00:44:17,393 It was very, very difficult to overcome. 978 00:44:17,437 --> 00:44:21,354 But we decided the group was gonna continue. 979 00:44:23,182 --> 00:44:25,750 So, John moved out with Denny, 980 00:44:25,793 --> 00:44:28,927 and I stayed at the house on Lookout Mountain. 981 00:44:28,970 --> 00:44:31,059 Now, while they were living together, 982 00:44:31,103 --> 00:44:33,192 they were living the fantasy life 983 00:44:33,235 --> 00:44:34,323 of two rock and rollers. 984 00:44:34,367 --> 00:44:35,977 ["I Saw Her Again" playing] 985 00:44:36,021 --> 00:44:38,588 - ♪ I saw her again last night ♪ 986 00:44:38,632 --> 00:44:41,548 ♪ And you know that I shouldn't ♪ 987 00:44:41,591 --> 00:44:45,944 - There were girls everywhere. 988 00:44:45,987 --> 00:44:48,686 I used to live down the street from them. 989 00:44:48,729 --> 00:44:50,688 So when he and Michelle were split, 990 00:44:50,731 --> 00:44:52,254 you know, they weren't together, 991 00:44:52,298 --> 00:44:54,692 John used to come and just talk. 992 00:44:54,735 --> 00:44:58,391 He needed to talk, and I was, like, there. 993 00:44:59,044 --> 00:45:01,089 I don't know, you know what happens. 994 00:45:01,133 --> 00:45:03,701 Who can explain attraction? 995 00:45:03,744 --> 00:45:07,356 - I started seeing Gene Clark from The Byrds 996 00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:08,706 clandestinely. 997 00:45:08,749 --> 00:45:12,013 He lived down the street from me. 998 00:45:12,057 --> 00:45:14,363 I knew that if John found out that I was seeing Gene, 999 00:45:14,407 --> 00:45:15,713 he would be furious, 1000 00:45:15,756 --> 00:45:17,540 in spite of his own girlfriend. 1001 00:45:17,584 --> 00:45:19,629 So we kept it quiet. 1002 00:45:19,673 --> 00:45:22,241 When we were gonna play Melodyland, Gene asked me 1003 00:45:22,284 --> 00:45:24,156 if he could have a couple of tickets to the concert, 1004 00:45:24,199 --> 00:45:26,549 and I said, "Absolutely." I called the office. 1005 00:45:26,593 --> 00:45:27,899 I didn't realize they were gonna put him 1006 00:45:27,942 --> 00:45:29,335 in the front row. 1007 00:45:29,378 --> 00:45:34,427 - ♪ Got a feeling that I'm wasting ♪ 1008 00:45:34,470 --> 00:45:39,432 ♪ Time on you, babe 1009 00:45:39,475 --> 00:45:42,261 ♪ Got a feeling that 1010 00:45:42,304 --> 00:45:49,050 ♪ You're been untrue 1011 00:45:49,094 --> 00:45:51,052 - When Cass saw Gene, 1012 00:45:51,096 --> 00:45:52,401 she knew that there could be 1013 00:45:52,445 --> 00:45:56,710 a murder on stage any minute. 1014 00:45:56,754 --> 00:46:01,541 And then, John realized what was going on. 1015 00:46:01,584 --> 00:46:06,589 - ♪ The joke's on you 1016 00:46:06,633 --> 00:46:11,203 ♪ Baby, it's true 1017 00:46:11,246 --> 00:46:16,904 ♪ The joke's on you 1018 00:46:16,948 --> 00:46:20,212 - At the end of the concert, John took his mic, and yelled, 1019 00:46:20,255 --> 00:46:22,605 "Get the fuck over here." 1020 00:46:22,649 --> 00:46:24,303 I ran up the stage, out the backdoor, 1021 00:46:24,346 --> 00:46:25,957 and into my car. 1022 00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:28,698 But John was hot on my heels, and he grabbed me, 1023 00:46:28,742 --> 00:46:31,919 and he said, "You are fired, you are fired." 1024 00:46:31,963 --> 00:46:33,442 And I said, "Well, I don't think 1025 00:46:33,486 --> 00:46:35,096 "you really have the legal right 1026 00:46:35,140 --> 00:46:36,445 to do that, John." 1027 00:46:36,489 --> 00:46:40,972 He said, "You wait and see." 1028 00:46:41,015 --> 00:46:42,887 - It's one thing for a guy to sleep around, 1029 00:46:42,930 --> 00:46:46,542 that's macho, you know, A guy is really, you know. 1030 00:46:46,586 --> 00:46:48,718 But for a woman, it was still--you know, 1031 00:46:48,762 --> 00:46:51,460 '60s were too close to the '50s. 1032 00:46:51,504 --> 00:46:53,854 You don't just lose that overnight. 1033 00:46:53,898 --> 00:46:55,987 There was a difference between men and women. 1034 00:46:56,030 --> 00:46:58,859 I mean, women were subordinate to men. 1035 00:46:58,903 --> 00:47:01,296 I'm sorry, but that's the way it was. 1036 00:47:01,340 --> 00:47:04,299 - There was no free love, as far as I was concerned, 1037 00:47:04,343 --> 00:47:07,302 but there was nothing that I could do about it. 1038 00:47:07,346 --> 00:47:09,130 I was thrown out of the group. 1039 00:47:09,174 --> 00:47:12,655 - It took a lot of pleading and groveling to get back in. 1040 00:47:12,699 --> 00:47:14,222 It was hard to beg, 1041 00:47:14,266 --> 00:47:17,312 but I knew that it meant going back with John. 1042 00:47:17,356 --> 00:47:18,879 - Hey, Michelle, 1043 00:47:18,923 --> 00:47:20,750 take this until Dionne Warwick comes on, will you? 1044 00:47:24,058 --> 00:47:26,539 - They got offices on Sunset Boulevard, 1045 00:47:26,582 --> 00:47:29,411 Monterey Pop offices, to make phone calls 1046 00:47:29,455 --> 00:47:31,196 and set up this pop festival. 1047 00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:32,501 Oh, nothing's happened. 1048 00:47:32,545 --> 00:47:35,330 Let's press on. 1049 00:47:35,374 --> 00:47:38,594 - Well, this is John Phillips of The Mamas and Papas. 1050 00:47:38,638 --> 00:47:40,553 - ♪ All the leaves are brown 1051 00:47:40,596 --> 00:47:42,120 - ♪ All the leaves are brown 1052 00:47:42,163 --> 00:47:44,209 - ♪ And the sky is gray 1053 00:47:44,252 --> 00:47:46,776 - ♪ And the sky is gray 1054 00:47:46,820 --> 00:47:48,430 - ♪ I've been for a walk 1055 00:47:48,474 --> 00:47:50,345 - ♪ I've been for a walk 1056 00:47:50,389 --> 00:47:52,391 - ♪ On a winter's day 1057 00:47:52,434 --> 00:47:55,176 - ♪ On a winter's day 1058 00:47:55,220 --> 00:47:56,525 - ♪ I'd be safe and warm 1059 00:47:56,569 --> 00:47:58,527 - ♪ I'd be safe and warm 1060 00:47:58,571 --> 00:48:00,660 - ♪ If I was in LA 1061 00:48:00,703 --> 00:48:03,141 - ♪ If I was in LA 1062 00:48:03,184 --> 00:48:06,666 - ♪ California dreamin' - ♪ California dreamin' 1063 00:48:06,709 --> 00:48:10,670 - ♪ On such a winter's day - ♪ On such a winter's day 1064 00:48:10,713 --> 00:48:13,194 - "California Dreamin'" was written in New York 1065 00:48:13,238 --> 00:48:15,936 in the early '60s, 1066 00:48:15,980 --> 00:48:18,808 years before we actually recorded it. 1067 00:48:18,852 --> 00:48:22,160 - I was begging John to go up to California, 1068 00:48:22,203 --> 00:48:23,726 and he said, "We can't. 1069 00:48:23,770 --> 00:48:25,554 "That's not where the business is. 1070 00:48:25,598 --> 00:48:27,556 The business is in New York." 1071 00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:31,038 But one night, John woke me up in the middle of the night, 1072 00:48:31,082 --> 00:48:34,955 "Wake up, I'm writing a song. Listen to this." 1073 00:48:34,999 --> 00:48:38,654 - ♪ I'd be safe and warm 1074 00:48:38,698 --> 00:48:43,355 ♪ If I was in LA 1075 00:48:43,398 --> 00:48:46,880 ♪ California dreamin' 1076 00:48:46,924 --> 00:48:49,752 ♪ On such a winter's day 1077 00:48:49,796 --> 00:48:52,581 - I said, "It's beautiful, John." 1078 00:48:52,625 --> 00:48:54,192 He says, "Help me write it." 1079 00:48:54,235 --> 00:48:56,411 I said, "Tomorrow." He said, "No, 1080 00:48:56,455 --> 00:48:59,197 help me write it now." 1081 00:48:59,240 --> 00:49:01,416 - ♪ Well, I got down on my knees ♪ 1082 00:49:01,460 --> 00:49:03,375 - ♪ I got down on my knees 1083 00:49:03,418 --> 00:49:05,768 - ♪ And I pretend to pray 1084 00:49:05,812 --> 00:49:07,770 - ♪ I pretend to pray 1085 00:49:07,814 --> 00:49:09,772 - ♪ You know the preacher liked the cold ♪ 1086 00:49:09,816 --> 00:49:11,774 - ♪ Preacher liked the cold 1087 00:49:11,818 --> 00:49:13,994 - ♪ He knows I'm gonna stay 1088 00:49:14,038 --> 00:49:16,779 - ♪ He knows I'm gonna stay 1089 00:49:16,823 --> 00:49:20,609 - ♪ California dreamin' - ♪ California dreamin' 1090 00:49:20,653 --> 00:49:26,615 ♪ On such a winter's day 1091 00:49:34,014 --> 00:49:35,973 - The Monterey Pop Festival, we didn't know 1092 00:49:36,016 --> 00:49:39,889 that it would be a historical landmark in music. 1093 00:49:39,933 --> 00:49:43,067 It was the height of the Anti-Vietnam movement 1094 00:49:43,110 --> 00:49:46,809 of flower power, make love, not war. 1095 00:49:46,853 --> 00:49:49,638 Most people were out of this conventional 1096 00:49:49,682 --> 00:49:51,771 state of mind. 1097 00:49:51,814 --> 00:49:54,774 It was a very diverse group of artists 1098 00:49:54,817 --> 00:49:56,602 that would never ordinarily perform 1099 00:49:56,645 --> 00:49:58,299 on the same bill together. 1100 00:49:58,343 --> 00:50:00,301 - It was the first time that it happened. 1101 00:50:00,345 --> 00:50:03,826 A whole gang of us played at the same place like that. 1102 00:50:03,870 --> 00:50:05,480 Very exciting. 1103 00:50:05,524 --> 00:50:07,787 It was the first time that I'd seen The Who live, 1104 00:50:07,830 --> 00:50:09,615 and that was a bit of a shock. 1105 00:50:09,658 --> 00:50:12,270 - The Who, the Jefferson Airplane, 1106 00:50:12,313 --> 00:50:16,317 Otis Redding, Ravi Shankar was there, 1107 00:50:16,361 --> 00:50:18,145 Buffalo Springfield. 1108 00:50:18,189 --> 00:50:20,713 - I'm--I'm here to fulfill a function 1109 00:50:20,756 --> 00:50:22,454 this particular time around, 1110 00:50:22,497 --> 00:50:24,934 one which I revel in and glory in, 1111 00:50:24,978 --> 00:50:27,154 that I'm introducing the next group 1112 00:50:27,198 --> 00:50:28,547 who are my favorites 1113 00:50:28,590 --> 00:50:30,940 because of long-standing friendships 1114 00:50:30,984 --> 00:50:33,682 with individuals, as well as, uh-- 1115 00:50:33,726 --> 00:50:35,989 I like the music. 1116 00:50:36,033 --> 00:50:38,426 I'd like you to welcome my favorite group, 1117 00:50:38,470 --> 00:50:39,688 The Buffalo Springfield. 1118 00:50:41,560 --> 00:50:45,520 ["For What It's Worth" playing] 1119 00:50:45,564 --> 00:50:47,609 - Just before the festival, 1120 00:50:47,653 --> 00:50:50,873 The Springfield was reaching its demise. 1121 00:50:50,917 --> 00:50:54,660 - ♪ There's battle lines being drawn ♪ 1122 00:50:54,703 --> 00:50:59,143 ♪ Nobody's right if everybody's wrong ♪ 1123 00:50:59,186 --> 00:51:01,841 - ♪ Oh, yeah - ♪ Young people speaking... 1124 00:51:01,884 --> 00:51:03,364 - Neil made it a point to be in the band, 1125 00:51:03,408 --> 00:51:05,758 out of the band, in the band, out of the band, 1126 00:51:05,801 --> 00:51:09,066 and so we kept going back and forth. 1127 00:51:09,109 --> 00:51:10,719 - ♪ We got to stop, children 1128 00:51:10,763 --> 00:51:12,199 ♪ What's that sound? 1129 00:51:12,243 --> 00:51:15,463 ♪ Everybody look, what's going down? ♪ 1130 00:51:15,507 --> 00:51:17,335 - We were at Monterey. We were down a man 1131 00:51:17,378 --> 00:51:19,946 and we got David Crosby to come and sit in with us, 1132 00:51:19,989 --> 00:51:23,123 and everybody got really uptight. 1133 00:51:23,167 --> 00:51:27,519 - There's David up there with The Buffalo Springfield. 1134 00:51:27,562 --> 00:51:29,738 - Well, that wispy, you could hear the vibrations 1135 00:51:29,782 --> 00:51:31,218 going through the entire open hall. 1136 00:51:31,262 --> 00:51:32,828 - It--it put a lot of people uptight. 1137 00:51:32,872 --> 00:51:34,134 - It sure did. 1138 00:51:34,178 --> 00:51:35,788 - But he didn't put me uptight. 1139 00:51:35,831 --> 00:51:36,963 - No. - He didn't put Stephen Stills 1140 00:51:37,006 --> 00:51:38,530 uptight. - No. 1141 00:51:38,573 --> 00:51:39,661 - 'Cause we were two musicians 1142 00:51:39,705 --> 00:51:41,098 and we wanted to make music. 1143 00:51:41,141 --> 00:51:42,925 And to heck with the rules, man. 1144 00:51:42,969 --> 00:51:44,927 - ♪ Stop, children, what's that sound? ♪ 1145 00:51:44,971 --> 00:51:46,581 - He was okay up there with him. 1146 00:51:46,625 --> 00:51:48,844 It didn't bother me that much at the time. 1147 00:51:48,888 --> 00:51:50,542 I had a feeling David was getting restless 1148 00:51:50,585 --> 00:51:52,935 and he felt that it was time to do something else. 1149 00:51:52,979 --> 00:51:54,023 And he was sort of looking around 1150 00:51:54,067 --> 00:51:56,983 for something else to do. 1151 00:51:57,026 --> 00:52:01,596 - ♪ Paranoia strikes deep 1152 00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:03,555 ♪ Into your life 1153 00:52:03,598 --> 00:52:06,123 ♪ It will creep 1154 00:52:06,166 --> 00:52:09,822 ♪ It starts when you're always afraid ♪ 1155 00:52:09,865 --> 00:52:11,258 ♪ Step out of the line 1156 00:52:11,302 --> 00:52:12,781 - I wasn't really highly regarded 1157 00:52:12,825 --> 00:52:15,219 in The Byrds as a writer. 1158 00:52:15,262 --> 00:52:18,831 You know, that was one of the bones of contention. 1159 00:52:18,874 --> 00:52:20,441 - David Crosby was very talented, 1160 00:52:20,485 --> 00:52:23,444 but he also had an ego the size of the moon. 1161 00:52:23,488 --> 00:52:26,273 He became very difficult to work with. 1162 00:52:26,317 --> 00:52:28,232 - I was very competitive with Roger, 1163 00:52:28,275 --> 00:52:32,105 who was always central in The Byrds, and rightly so. 1164 00:52:32,149 --> 00:52:34,368 - Well, the Byrds were like a pirate ship as opposed 1165 00:52:34,412 --> 00:52:36,979 to a close-knit group of brothers. 1166 00:52:37,023 --> 00:52:39,243 The differences were in who got their songs 1167 00:52:39,286 --> 00:52:40,548 on the record. 1168 00:52:40,592 --> 00:52:41,897 Terry Melcher was our producer. 1169 00:52:41,941 --> 00:52:43,290 He was my friend. 1170 00:52:43,334 --> 00:52:44,987 He would get my songs on there. 1171 00:52:45,031 --> 00:52:46,467 And he didn't like David Crosby, 1172 00:52:46,511 --> 00:52:48,339 and David Crosby didn't like Terry Melcher, 1173 00:52:48,382 --> 00:52:51,342 so David wasn't getting his songs on there. 1174 00:52:51,385 --> 00:52:53,170 And that was a problem. 1175 00:52:53,213 --> 00:52:57,870 They were good songs, but it was politics. 1176 00:52:57,913 --> 00:52:59,480 - I wanted more of everything. 1177 00:52:59,524 --> 00:53:00,916 I wanted more attention. 1178 00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:04,485 My position in that band was wingman. 1179 00:53:04,529 --> 00:53:06,531 That was part of the grid and the gears 1180 00:53:06,574 --> 00:53:09,360 that eventually made that one come unglued. 1181 00:53:09,403 --> 00:53:12,014 So, they let me go. 1182 00:53:12,058 --> 00:53:13,668 I've never been good with roles. 1183 00:53:13,712 --> 00:53:15,409 But life has changed. 1184 00:53:15,453 --> 00:53:19,196 Everything changes all the time. 1185 00:53:21,807 --> 00:53:23,069 - Okay. 1186 00:53:23,112 --> 00:53:24,810 So... 1187 00:53:24,853 --> 00:53:26,725 who you are, what your name is? 1188 00:53:26,768 --> 00:53:28,857 What you really do? 1189 00:53:28,901 --> 00:53:31,773 - Who I am? 1190 00:53:31,817 --> 00:53:33,949 Let's see. 1191 00:53:40,173 --> 00:53:42,262 That's a hard departure point. 1192 00:53:42,306 --> 00:53:44,090 What'll be... 1193 00:53:44,133 --> 00:53:45,787 the synopsis, I don't know. 1194 00:53:45,831 --> 00:53:46,962 - Your name. 1195 00:53:47,006 --> 00:53:48,529 - Oh, just identification? 1196 00:53:48,573 --> 00:53:50,096 I'm Joni Mitchell. 1197 00:53:50,139 --> 00:53:53,360 ["Ladies Of The Canyon" playing] 1198 00:53:59,148 --> 00:54:02,369 - ♪ Trina wears her wampum beads ♪ 1199 00:54:02,413 --> 00:54:07,287 ♪ She fills her drawing book with line ♪ 1200 00:54:07,331 --> 00:54:10,116 - I remember, so when I first got here 1201 00:54:10,159 --> 00:54:13,380 driving around up in the canyons 1202 00:54:13,424 --> 00:54:15,991 with a good stereo. 1203 00:54:16,035 --> 00:54:17,341 There were no sidewalks. 1204 00:54:17,384 --> 00:54:19,430 There were no regimented lines. 1205 00:54:19,473 --> 00:54:22,737 The ruralness of it, the friendliness of it... 1206 00:54:22,781 --> 00:54:24,913 No one locked their doors. 1207 00:54:24,957 --> 00:54:28,308 ♪ Trimmed with antique luxury ♪ 1208 00:54:28,352 --> 00:54:33,313 ♪ She is a lady of the canyon ♪ 1209 00:54:38,362 --> 00:54:40,799 - Having lived in New York and then come here, 1210 00:54:40,842 --> 00:54:42,279 having trees in the yard, 1211 00:54:42,322 --> 00:54:44,150 having ducks in my neighbor's yard 1212 00:54:44,193 --> 00:54:46,108 floating around on the pond, 1213 00:54:46,152 --> 00:54:48,415 the ducks on the Ladies of the Canyon album 1214 00:54:48,459 --> 00:54:51,200 were actually on the pond that I could see 1215 00:54:51,244 --> 00:54:52,941 from my dining room window. 1216 00:54:56,293 --> 00:54:58,817 - Joni's house on Lookout Mountain Avenue was-- 1217 00:54:58,860 --> 00:55:00,601 was one of those little typical 1218 00:55:00,645 --> 00:55:03,735 Laurel Canyon bungalows. 1219 00:55:03,778 --> 00:55:06,738 Wood shingles and a wood roof. 1220 00:55:06,781 --> 00:55:10,002 Big windows all over. 1221 00:55:10,045 --> 00:55:12,874 Big, beautiful, natural wood grand piano 1222 00:55:12,918 --> 00:55:15,007 in the living room, her paintings, 1223 00:55:15,050 --> 00:55:17,488 her drawings, and little crystals 1224 00:55:17,531 --> 00:55:19,533 hanging in front of the window, 1225 00:55:19,577 --> 00:55:24,277 very conducive for the kind of music that she wrote. 1226 00:55:24,321 --> 00:55:26,584 The record company needed publicity pictures, 1227 00:55:26,627 --> 00:55:29,500 so I went up there with my partner, Gary Burden. 1228 00:55:29,543 --> 00:55:31,328 But as we approached the house, 1229 00:55:31,371 --> 00:55:33,634 she was leaning on the window waiting for us. 1230 00:55:33,678 --> 00:55:37,812 And luckily, Gary got into a whole conversation with her, 1231 00:55:37,856 --> 00:55:41,642 which allowed me to change from wide angle to telephoto 1232 00:55:41,686 --> 00:55:45,037 and just kept clicking away as long as she was talking. 1233 00:55:47,692 --> 00:55:49,084 - Joni Mitchell, 1234 00:55:49,128 --> 00:55:52,174 very young lady, Saskatchewan-born. 1235 00:55:52,218 --> 00:55:54,481 You're just starting out, sort of, aren't you? 1236 00:55:54,525 --> 00:55:56,483 - I consider that I've only started 1237 00:55:56,527 --> 00:55:58,703 within the last year because I've only felt 1238 00:55:58,746 --> 00:56:02,402 that I've begun to have my own--my own way to go, 1239 00:56:02,446 --> 00:56:04,186 my own songs, and my own guitar style, 1240 00:56:04,230 --> 00:56:07,799 and--and I'm starting to get my own vocal styling now. 1241 00:56:07,842 --> 00:56:09,409 - Joni had 20 1242 00:56:09,453 --> 00:56:11,629 of the best songs I'd ever heard. 1243 00:56:11,672 --> 00:56:13,500 And I said, "I would do anything 1244 00:56:13,544 --> 00:56:15,676 to work with you. What do I have to do?" 1245 00:56:15,720 --> 00:56:17,243 Joan did everything herself. 1246 00:56:17,286 --> 00:56:19,071 She booked her tour, she was her own agent. 1247 00:56:19,114 --> 00:56:20,681 She traveled all alone. And she said, 1248 00:56:20,725 --> 00:56:22,509 "I'm leaving for Detroit tomorrow. 1249 00:56:22,553 --> 00:56:24,729 "If you come with me, spend your own money. 1250 00:56:24,772 --> 00:56:26,208 I could use the company." 1251 00:56:26,252 --> 00:56:27,558 And so we went on the road together 1252 00:56:27,601 --> 00:56:30,430 for about three and a half, four weeks. 1253 00:56:30,474 --> 00:56:34,391 When we came back, Joni became my first client. 1254 00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:40,788 - All the New York companies passed, Sony and RCA and MGM. 1255 00:56:40,832 --> 00:56:43,443 They didn't really want any folk artist. 1256 00:56:43,487 --> 00:56:47,404 Vanguard had Joan Baez and Elektra had Judy Collins, 1257 00:56:47,447 --> 00:56:50,276 so it was very hard for Joni to get a deal. 1258 00:56:50,319 --> 00:56:52,234 - My music--it's on a guitar. 1259 00:56:52,278 --> 00:56:53,888 I look like a folk singer, and folk music 1260 00:56:53,932 --> 00:56:55,368 was already dead. 1261 00:56:55,412 --> 00:56:57,239 I had come in so late in the movement. 1262 00:56:57,283 --> 00:56:58,937 And everybody assumed I was a folk singer. 1263 00:56:58,980 --> 00:57:01,548 But in fact, I was really a classical musician 1264 00:57:01,592 --> 00:57:03,332 in a certain way. 1265 00:57:03,376 --> 00:57:07,685 - My goal was to go out to California. 1266 00:57:07,728 --> 00:57:10,427 And I played her demos for Warner Bros. 1267 00:57:10,470 --> 00:57:13,081 ["Song To A Seagull" playing] - ♪ Fly silly seabirds 1268 00:57:13,125 --> 00:57:16,998 ♪ No dreams can possess you 1269 00:57:17,042 --> 00:57:20,567 - That was my first deal I had ever made. 1270 00:57:20,611 --> 00:57:22,134 I hired David Crosby 1271 00:57:22,177 --> 00:57:25,180 to produce Joni's album for her first album. 1272 00:57:25,224 --> 00:57:27,400 He had just been kicked out of The Byrds 1273 00:57:27,444 --> 00:57:28,836 four or five months earlier. 1274 00:57:28,880 --> 00:57:30,490 He had met Joni in Florida. 1275 00:57:30,534 --> 00:57:33,580 - ♪ Have names they must call me ♪ 1276 00:57:33,624 --> 00:57:35,060 - I walked in the door. 1277 00:57:35,103 --> 00:57:36,583 She was singing "Michael From Mountains" 1278 00:57:36,627 --> 00:57:40,282 or "Both Sides Now," and just stunned me. 1279 00:57:40,326 --> 00:57:43,198 I was in love with her for a year. 1280 00:57:43,242 --> 00:57:44,635 - We were both just so excited 1281 00:57:44,678 --> 00:57:46,463 to bring her out to California. 1282 00:57:46,506 --> 00:57:49,683 - ♪ The seagulls fly out of reach... ♪ 1283 00:57:49,727 --> 00:57:51,772 - It was just a plethora of great bands 1284 00:57:51,816 --> 00:57:53,513 coming out of LA at that time. 1285 00:57:53,557 --> 00:57:56,951 The Doors and The Turtles and Mamas and Papas. 1286 00:57:56,995 --> 00:57:58,170 ["Twelve Thirty" playing] 1287 00:57:58,213 --> 00:58:00,694 - ♪ Young girls are coming 1288 00:58:00,738 --> 00:58:06,744 ♪ To the canyon 1289 00:58:06,787 --> 00:58:08,572 ♪ And in the mornings 1290 00:58:08,615 --> 00:58:14,099 ♪ I can see them walking 1291 00:58:14,142 --> 00:58:16,536 - California--my work is there. 1292 00:58:16,580 --> 00:58:18,843 I record there and I do a lot of television there. 1293 00:58:18,886 --> 00:58:23,282 But all work and no play makes Cass a dull girl. 1294 00:58:23,325 --> 00:58:26,633 - ♪ And I can't keep myself... ♪ 1295 00:58:26,677 --> 00:58:29,201 - I looked at 78 houses before I bought my house. 1296 00:58:29,244 --> 00:58:30,811 My house looks like it was just snatched 1297 00:58:30,855 --> 00:58:32,247 out of Connecticut and sat right there 1298 00:58:32,291 --> 00:58:33,814 in the middle of California. 1299 00:58:33,858 --> 00:58:38,123 A lot of roses and a lot of grounds around it. 1300 00:58:38,166 --> 00:58:39,951 - Very often, Mama Cass-- 1301 00:58:39,994 --> 00:58:41,518 she would be on a TV show 1302 00:58:41,561 --> 00:58:43,171 with The Mamas and Papas. 1303 00:58:43,215 --> 00:58:45,086 And she would meet young groups 1304 00:58:45,130 --> 00:58:47,088 from England over for the first time. 1305 00:58:47,132 --> 00:58:49,003 And that was the case with Cream, 1306 00:58:49,047 --> 00:58:50,831 and she met Eric Clapton. 1307 00:58:50,875 --> 00:58:52,180 He didn't know anybody. 1308 00:58:52,224 --> 00:58:53,704 He'd never been to the US before. 1309 00:58:53,747 --> 00:58:55,227 She said, "Well, come up to my house. 1310 00:58:55,270 --> 00:58:56,837 "I'll bring some friends over. 1311 00:58:56,881 --> 00:58:59,187 We'll have a little barbecue in the backyard." 1312 00:58:59,231 --> 00:59:01,363 She invited Micky Dolenz. 1313 00:59:01,407 --> 00:59:04,236 He came over with a sixteen-millimeter camera 1314 00:59:04,279 --> 00:59:06,455 and David Crosby. 1315 00:59:06,499 --> 00:59:08,849 Crosby brought his new protégé, 1316 00:59:08,893 --> 00:59:11,722 his new find, this young girl 1317 00:59:11,765 --> 00:59:14,028 who sang her own songs. 1318 00:59:14,072 --> 00:59:17,684 And she came over and sat on the grass with her guitar. 1319 00:59:22,559 --> 00:59:24,561 Eric Clapton was sitting there, 1320 00:59:24,604 --> 00:59:27,868 staring at her because she tuned to a chord. 1321 00:59:27,912 --> 00:59:30,436 It's a kind of a folk tuning. You tune to a chord 1322 00:59:30,479 --> 00:59:32,960 and then you don't do the normal fingering. 1323 00:59:33,004 --> 00:59:34,440 He had never seen this before. 1324 00:59:34,483 --> 00:59:36,877 He sat there just amazed. 1325 00:59:36,921 --> 00:59:39,576 - ♪ Fly silly seabird 1326 00:59:39,619 --> 00:59:44,624 ♪ No dreams can possess you 1327 00:59:44,668 --> 00:59:47,322 ♪ No voices can blame you 1328 00:59:47,366 --> 00:59:52,458 ♪ For sun on your wings 1329 00:59:52,501 --> 00:59:54,025 - I produced her first album. 1330 00:59:54,068 --> 00:59:56,593 - ♪ My gentle relations 1331 00:59:56,636 --> 00:59:58,420 - I didn't really know what I was doing. 1332 00:59:58,464 --> 01:00:00,771 I just knew that I wanted to get her on tape 1333 01:00:00,814 --> 01:00:04,426 without a lot of other crud being put on top of it. 1334 01:00:04,470 --> 01:00:10,563 - ♪ Freedom of all flying things ♪ 1335 01:00:10,607 --> 01:00:12,652 - I think perhaps without David's protection, 1336 01:00:12,696 --> 01:00:15,133 they might have set some kind of producer on me 1337 01:00:15,176 --> 01:00:17,526 who would try to make an apple out of an orange. 1338 01:00:17,570 --> 01:00:20,268 His instincts were, "I wanna pretend to produce you 1339 01:00:20,312 --> 01:00:21,748 and I'm not gonna do anything." 1340 01:00:21,792 --> 01:00:24,403 He basically was going to protect it 1341 01:00:24,446 --> 01:00:26,927 because he liked it the way it was. 1342 01:00:26,971 --> 01:00:30,278 - ♪ I came to the city 1343 01:00:30,322 --> 01:00:34,195 ♪ And lived like old Crusoe 1344 01:00:34,239 --> 01:00:37,416 ♪ On an island of noise 1345 01:00:37,459 --> 01:00:39,505 - When I climbed up my first palm tree 1346 01:00:39,548 --> 01:00:41,463 at Los Angeles International Airport, 1347 01:00:41,507 --> 01:00:44,336 I--I never wanted to go back to England after that. 1348 01:00:44,379 --> 01:00:45,511 ["Carrie Anne" playing] 1349 01:00:45,554 --> 01:00:47,295 - ♪ Hey, Carrie Anne 1350 01:00:47,339 --> 01:00:49,123 ♪ What's your game now? 1351 01:00:49,167 --> 01:00:52,083 ♪ Can anybody play? 1352 01:00:52,126 --> 01:00:54,302 - I had come to Los Angeles with my band 1353 01:00:54,346 --> 01:00:55,956 from the north of England. 1354 01:00:56,000 --> 01:00:58,959 I'd already been in The Hollies for seven years. 1355 01:00:59,003 --> 01:01:00,961 They had struck a formula for success, 1356 01:01:01,005 --> 01:01:04,225 and were content to drive that formula into the ground. 1357 01:01:04,269 --> 01:01:06,401 They didn't wanna follow my urge 1358 01:01:06,445 --> 01:01:08,708 to keep getting better and moving forward. 1359 01:01:08,752 --> 01:01:12,669 - ♪ When the lesson's over, you'll be with me ♪ 1360 01:01:12,712 --> 01:01:15,193 - I began to realize that... 1361 01:01:15,236 --> 01:01:17,064 I was in the wrong place. 1362 01:01:17,108 --> 01:01:19,850 - ♪ Hey, Carrie Anne 1363 01:01:19,893 --> 01:01:22,417 - The Hollies were being thrown a party 1364 01:01:22,461 --> 01:01:24,376 by a record company. 1365 01:01:24,419 --> 01:01:25,856 This kid comes up to us and he goes, 1366 01:01:25,899 --> 01:01:27,684 "What are you guys doing after this? 1367 01:01:27,727 --> 01:01:28,989 "I have these friends that are making a record 1368 01:01:29,033 --> 01:01:30,599 "down the street. 1369 01:01:30,643 --> 01:01:32,166 They're called The Mamas and the Papas." 1370 01:01:32,210 --> 01:01:34,386 I said, "Let's go." 1371 01:01:34,429 --> 01:01:36,823 We went down to this recording studio. 1372 01:01:36,867 --> 01:01:39,217 John and Michelle and Denny were recording, 1373 01:01:39,260 --> 01:01:40,914 but Cass was standing outside. 1374 01:01:40,958 --> 01:01:44,178 And Cass said to me, "What are you doing tomorrow?" 1375 01:01:44,222 --> 01:01:46,877 She picked me up at noon in her convertible Porsche. 1376 01:01:46,920 --> 01:01:49,531 She drove me 10 minutes to Laurel Canyon, 1377 01:01:49,575 --> 01:01:52,230 very close to Hollywood, drove up to this place 1378 01:01:52,273 --> 01:01:55,363 with another convertible Porsche in that driveway. 1379 01:01:55,407 --> 01:01:57,452 We walked up the stairs. 1380 01:01:57,496 --> 01:01:58,845 There was the guy playing 1381 01:01:58,889 --> 01:02:00,717 an acoustic guitar on the couch. 1382 01:02:00,760 --> 01:02:02,762 And he's got a shoebox, the lid is full of grass, 1383 01:02:02,806 --> 01:02:04,721 and he's separating the grass from the stems 1384 01:02:04,764 --> 01:02:08,072 and rolling perfect joints while still talking to me, 1385 01:02:08,115 --> 01:02:10,291 never losing eye contact. 1386 01:02:10,335 --> 01:02:13,033 I'm going, "Wow. This is insane." 1387 01:02:13,077 --> 01:02:14,556 That's how I first met Crosby. 1388 01:02:14,600 --> 01:02:17,342 And my life has never been the same. 1389 01:02:19,431 --> 01:02:20,911 - I had the best pot in town. 1390 01:02:20,954 --> 01:02:24,566 I'd give people a joint and they get stomped, 1391 01:02:24,610 --> 01:02:27,047 completely stoned out of their gourds. 1392 01:02:27,091 --> 01:02:30,268 And I said, "Hey, Johnny. Why don't you sing a song?" 1393 01:02:30,311 --> 01:02:32,531 They'd listen to her sing, and then their brains 1394 01:02:32,574 --> 01:02:34,576 would run out their nose on the floor in a puddle, 1395 01:02:34,620 --> 01:02:36,361 and that'd be that. 1396 01:02:38,537 --> 01:02:41,105 - Drugs in the '60s-- 1397 01:02:41,148 --> 01:02:44,673 they did some good and they did some harm, obviously. 1398 01:02:46,458 --> 01:02:49,069 I took two tabs of acid one time 1399 01:02:49,113 --> 01:02:50,767 and saw electricity. 1400 01:02:50,810 --> 01:02:52,899 Not only that, I saw theoretical physics 1401 01:02:52,943 --> 01:02:55,336 with my own eyes. I saw the luminous fibers 1402 01:02:55,380 --> 01:02:57,295 that chain everything together. 1403 01:02:59,471 --> 01:03:02,082 Everything, from rocks to trees, 1404 01:03:02,126 --> 01:03:04,911 we were all suspended in this plasma. 1405 01:03:04,955 --> 01:03:07,784 These are nature's telephone wires. 1406 01:03:08,697 --> 01:03:10,351 Man doesn't make anything 1407 01:03:10,395 --> 01:03:12,745 that he doesn't imitate from nature. 1408 01:03:14,225 --> 01:03:16,705 The insights that came from that one trip 1409 01:03:16,749 --> 01:03:18,620 changed my psychology so radically 1410 01:03:18,664 --> 01:03:21,754 that I had to withdraw and think about it. 1411 01:03:21,798 --> 01:03:23,843 A writer can move time around. 1412 01:03:23,887 --> 01:03:25,540 You can take incidents that happened 1413 01:03:25,584 --> 01:03:27,064 over a span of 15 years 1414 01:03:27,107 --> 01:03:29,675 and make them all occur in the same moment. 1415 01:03:29,718 --> 01:03:31,677 Maybe the truth doesn't rhyme. 1416 01:03:33,505 --> 01:03:35,246 - It was really a spiritual practice. 1417 01:03:35,289 --> 01:03:39,816 We smoked grass to understand, to learn. 1418 01:03:40,860 --> 01:03:43,297 As Ray Manzarek once famously said, 1419 01:03:43,341 --> 01:03:44,472 "These weren't drugs. 1420 01:03:44,516 --> 01:03:46,518 These were sacraments." 1421 01:03:47,127 --> 01:03:50,130 - My experiments with dope opened my eyes 1422 01:03:50,174 --> 01:03:52,567 to the fact that there was much more to music 1423 01:03:52,611 --> 01:03:55,701 than creating a three-minute pop hit, 1424 01:03:55,744 --> 01:03:58,835 which The Hollies were really in that. 1425 01:03:58,878 --> 01:04:01,968 - Music--it's an expression of the younger generation. 1426 01:04:02,012 --> 01:04:04,057 We can go in front of a television camera, 1427 01:04:04,101 --> 01:04:05,754 we can go on the air, 1428 01:04:05,798 --> 01:04:09,106 we can stop world wars before they ever started. 1429 01:04:09,149 --> 01:04:11,064 Love rules the world. 1430 01:04:12,674 --> 01:04:14,894 - The Hollies were doing a show in Ottawa. 1431 01:04:14,938 --> 01:04:16,591 We were in one of those places 1432 01:04:16,635 --> 01:04:18,158 where you get a cheap glass of wine, 1433 01:04:18,202 --> 01:04:20,421 and my tour manager is talking in my ear. 1434 01:04:20,465 --> 01:04:22,119 And I'm saying, "Please. Please." 1435 01:04:22,162 --> 01:04:23,772 And he's going on me. And I said, "Please. 1436 01:04:23,816 --> 01:04:25,426 "I'm trying to catch the eye 1437 01:04:25,470 --> 01:04:27,211 of this fucking beautiful woman in the corner." 1438 01:04:27,254 --> 01:04:28,995 He said, "Well, if you'd fucking listen to me, 1439 01:04:29,039 --> 01:04:31,476 "I'm trying to tell you that's Joni Mitchell. 1440 01:04:31,519 --> 01:04:33,521 And she wants to see you." 1441 01:04:33,565 --> 01:04:35,045 So, I go over to Joni, 1442 01:04:35,088 --> 01:04:38,004 she has this pale, blue silk dress on, 1443 01:04:38,048 --> 01:04:41,660 and a music box with a broken note on her lap. 1444 01:04:41,703 --> 01:04:44,576 And it would go 1445 01:04:44,619 --> 01:04:46,099 And--and we laughed about that. 1446 01:04:46,143 --> 01:04:48,885 You know, that's how I met Joni. 1447 01:04:50,060 --> 01:04:52,018 It's a simple stuff. 1448 01:04:52,062 --> 01:04:53,802 But I was in love from the moment 1449 01:04:53,846 --> 01:04:55,935 that I ever spent any time with her. 1450 01:04:57,241 --> 01:05:00,157 I went back to undo my life in England after that. 1451 01:05:03,987 --> 01:05:07,773 - By this time, I had moved to Laurel Canyon. 1452 01:05:07,816 --> 01:05:11,342 My house was two houses down from Joni's house. 1453 01:05:11,385 --> 01:05:14,519 Everyone was just living there, doing demos, 1454 01:05:14,562 --> 01:05:16,086 forming bands, 1455 01:05:16,129 --> 01:05:18,566 forming relationships. 1456 01:05:18,610 --> 01:05:20,307 I wanted to start my own company, 1457 01:05:20,351 --> 01:05:24,050 so I opened my own office, Lookout Management. 1458 01:05:24,094 --> 01:05:26,357 We were in the recording studio, 1459 01:05:26,400 --> 01:05:27,924 Sunset Sound. 1460 01:05:27,967 --> 01:05:29,926 Someone came in and said, "Hey, Joan, 1461 01:05:29,969 --> 01:05:32,580 The Buffalo Springfield are in Room B. 1462 01:05:32,624 --> 01:05:34,756 You should come by and say hello." 1463 01:05:34,800 --> 01:05:36,280 Joni had been an old friend of Neil's. 1464 01:05:36,323 --> 01:05:38,935 They had gone the Toronto Folk Circuit. 1465 01:05:38,978 --> 01:05:41,241 So after our session, we went by 1466 01:05:41,285 --> 01:05:43,113 where The Springfield were recording. 1467 01:05:43,156 --> 01:05:45,376 That night, we went to Ben Frank's, 1468 01:05:45,419 --> 01:05:46,986 a diner that was open late 1469 01:05:47,030 --> 01:05:48,683 where all the musicians usually would come 1470 01:05:48,727 --> 01:05:50,990 after they played around midnight. 1471 01:05:51,034 --> 01:05:53,601 The Springfield had just fired their manager, 1472 01:05:53,645 --> 01:05:57,562 and you could see that Neil wanted to leave the band. 1473 01:05:58,432 --> 01:06:00,173 - Neil, The Buffalo Springfield 1474 01:06:00,217 --> 01:06:02,262 lasted two and a half years and produced 1475 01:06:02,306 --> 01:06:04,699 some of the more interesting sounds on the scene. 1476 01:06:04,743 --> 01:06:07,311 Why is it in existence no longer? 1477 01:06:07,354 --> 01:06:08,790 - Well, we didn't achieve 1478 01:06:08,834 --> 01:06:10,314 anywhere near the success 1479 01:06:10,357 --> 01:06:12,272 that we expected or wished to. 1480 01:06:12,316 --> 01:06:14,492 It's hard enough to live with yourself 1481 01:06:14,535 --> 01:06:17,234 when you've considered what you've done a failure. 1482 01:06:17,277 --> 01:06:18,975 Living with four other guys 1483 01:06:19,018 --> 01:06:20,802 is even harder, you know. 1484 01:06:20,846 --> 01:06:22,543 Just couldn't do it. 1485 01:06:22,587 --> 01:06:25,372 And I--I quit. 1486 01:06:25,416 --> 01:06:27,374 - We couldn't quite clear that final hump. 1487 01:06:27,418 --> 01:06:29,681 We get the big gigs and get paid all that money, 1488 01:06:29,724 --> 01:06:32,075 press agents, management, whatever. 1489 01:06:32,118 --> 01:06:33,902 And I think we were on the verge of it 1490 01:06:33,946 --> 01:06:37,297 when Neil took off to do his solo album 1491 01:06:37,341 --> 01:06:39,821 and David Crosby and I, 1492 01:06:39,865 --> 01:06:42,868 both having seen demise of our respective bands, 1493 01:06:42,911 --> 01:06:45,392 we were hanging out together for a period of months 1494 01:06:45,436 --> 01:06:48,134 trying to figure out what we're gonna do next. 1495 01:06:52,225 --> 01:06:56,012 - I had come to Los Angeles to spend some time with Joni. 1496 01:06:56,055 --> 01:06:58,666 There's other voices in the house. 1497 01:06:58,710 --> 01:07:00,146 It was David and Stephen. 1498 01:07:00,190 --> 01:07:02,627 After dinner, we smoked a big joint. 1499 01:07:02,670 --> 01:07:04,368 The Springfield had broken up. 1500 01:07:04,411 --> 01:07:06,196 David had been thrown out of The Byrds. 1501 01:07:06,239 --> 01:07:08,067 They were trying to get an Everly Brothers 1502 01:07:08,111 --> 01:07:11,201 duo thing together, and David said to Stephen, 1503 01:07:11,244 --> 01:07:12,637 "Sing that song." 1504 01:07:12,680 --> 01:07:13,681 ["You Don't Have To Cry" playing] 1505 01:07:13,725 --> 01:07:15,379 - ♪ In the mornin' 1506 01:07:15,422 --> 01:07:18,338 ♪ When you rise 1507 01:07:18,382 --> 01:07:19,948 ♪ Do you think of me 1508 01:07:19,992 --> 01:07:23,517 ♪ And how you left me cryin'? ♪ 1509 01:07:23,561 --> 01:07:24,953 - I said, "Holy shit. 1510 01:07:24,997 --> 01:07:26,825 Do me a favor. Sing it one more time." 1511 01:07:26,868 --> 01:07:30,350 - ♪ I said cry, my baby 1512 01:07:30,394 --> 01:07:34,746 ♪ You don't have to cry 1513 01:07:37,227 --> 01:07:39,098 - He got to the end of it and I said, 1514 01:07:39,142 --> 01:07:42,406 "I may sound crazy, but sing it one more time." 1515 01:07:42,449 --> 01:07:45,365 ♪ In the long run 1516 01:07:45,409 --> 01:07:48,368 ♪ It will make you cry 1517 01:07:48,412 --> 01:07:51,371 ♪ Make you crazy and old 1518 01:07:51,415 --> 01:07:54,374 ♪ Before your time 1519 01:07:54,418 --> 01:07:57,290 ♪ And the difference 1520 01:07:57,334 --> 01:07:59,597 ♪ Between me and you 1521 01:07:59,640 --> 01:08:01,903 ♪ I won't argue right or wrong ♪ 1522 01:08:01,947 --> 01:08:05,516 ♪ But I have time to cry, my baby ♪ 1523 01:08:05,559 --> 01:08:08,736 - The third time, he put the harmony on. 1524 01:08:08,780 --> 01:08:12,392 - It was an astounding thing. 1525 01:08:12,436 --> 01:08:14,394 - We stopped singing and said, 1526 01:08:14,438 --> 01:08:16,092 "What the fuck just happened?" 1527 01:08:16,135 --> 01:08:17,876 - Stephen and I didn't really know 1528 01:08:17,919 --> 01:08:20,792 what we wanted to do until we heard Graham. 1529 01:08:22,489 --> 01:08:24,578 Then we knew exactly 1530 01:08:24,622 --> 01:08:26,406 what we wanted to do, 1531 01:08:26,450 --> 01:08:27,625 and we did it. 1532 01:08:27,668 --> 01:08:31,063 ["Helplessly Hoping" playing] 1533 01:08:33,239 --> 01:08:36,112 ♪ Helplessly hoping 1534 01:08:36,155 --> 01:08:38,418 ♪ Her harlequin 1535 01:08:38,462 --> 01:08:41,160 ♪ Hovers nearby 1536 01:08:41,204 --> 01:08:43,641 ♪ Awaiting a word... 1537 01:08:43,684 --> 01:08:46,252 - We would go down to a friend's house and say, 1538 01:08:46,296 --> 01:08:49,647 "Listen to this," and we would blow their minds. 1539 01:08:49,690 --> 01:08:52,389 ♪ Of gentle true spirit 1540 01:08:52,432 --> 01:08:54,042 ♪ He runs 1541 01:08:54,086 --> 01:08:57,437 ♪ Wishing he could fly high 1542 01:08:57,481 --> 01:08:59,439 - We'd heard a lot of Peter, Paul, and Mary 1543 01:08:59,483 --> 01:09:01,267 and that three-part, 1544 01:09:01,311 --> 01:09:03,356 but we tried to make our voices 1545 01:09:03,400 --> 01:09:04,923 into one voice. 1546 01:09:04,966 --> 01:09:06,881 David's accent, and Stephen's accent, 1547 01:09:06,925 --> 01:09:08,753 and my accent, all coming together 1548 01:09:08,796 --> 01:09:10,146 with this one sound. 1549 01:09:10,189 --> 01:09:11,886 That's what was different. 1550 01:09:11,930 --> 01:09:15,238 ♪ He waits by the window ♪ 1551 01:09:15,281 --> 01:09:16,848 ♪ And wonders 1552 01:09:16,891 --> 01:09:20,373 ♪ At the empty place inside 1553 01:09:20,417 --> 01:09:21,940 - When a chemistry happens 1554 01:09:21,983 --> 01:09:23,463 between people, musically, 1555 01:09:23,507 --> 01:09:25,422 it's magic. 1556 01:09:26,858 --> 01:09:28,120 You can't predict it, 1557 01:09:28,164 --> 01:09:31,297 but something happens, 1558 01:09:31,341 --> 01:09:32,864 something new. 1559 01:09:34,518 --> 01:09:38,304 ♪ Or even... 1560 01:09:38,348 --> 01:09:41,002 ♪ Hello? 1561 01:09:41,046 --> 01:09:43,875 - We had almost finished the record, 1562 01:09:43,918 --> 01:09:46,486 but we didn't have an album cover. 1563 01:09:46,530 --> 01:09:48,836 Henry, he would hang out a lot in the studio 1564 01:09:48,880 --> 01:09:51,535 while we were making that first record. 1565 01:09:51,578 --> 01:09:55,103 - Took them in a car and drove around West Hollywood. 1566 01:09:55,147 --> 01:09:56,757 We'd just see whatever came up. 1567 01:09:56,801 --> 01:09:59,195 Wherever we were, we'd turn that into a picture. 1568 01:09:59,238 --> 01:10:01,980 I would just shoot everything that happened. 1569 01:10:03,373 --> 01:10:05,984 And then we found this little house. 1570 01:10:06,027 --> 01:10:09,074 The house was empty. It was kind of boarded up. 1571 01:10:09,117 --> 01:10:10,902 - It was obviously dilapidated. 1572 01:10:10,945 --> 01:10:12,338 It looked as if nobody had lived there 1573 01:10:12,382 --> 01:10:14,514 for a few years. It was funky. 1574 01:10:14,558 --> 01:10:16,603 But it suited the music 1575 01:10:16,647 --> 01:10:18,518 that we wanted to present. 1576 01:10:18,562 --> 01:10:21,042 Laid back, denim, 1577 01:10:21,086 --> 01:10:24,698 hippy, long hair, dope, 1578 01:10:24,742 --> 01:10:26,352 that kind of a feeling. 1579 01:10:28,528 --> 01:10:31,444 The next morning, Henry comes down to the studio 1580 01:10:31,488 --> 01:10:33,229 with the proofs and we go, 1581 01:10:33,272 --> 01:10:37,058 "Shit. That's the one right there." 1582 01:10:37,102 --> 01:10:39,496 And we're in the wrong order. 1583 01:10:39,539 --> 01:10:41,672 - Nash, Stills, and Crosby, 1584 01:10:41,715 --> 01:10:43,456 well, flip it over, 1585 01:10:43,500 --> 01:10:46,024 but then Stephen would be playing the guitar backwards. 1586 01:10:46,067 --> 01:10:47,547 That would be a controversy. 1587 01:10:47,591 --> 01:10:50,028 So, I remember saying, "Well, let's just go back. 1588 01:10:50,071 --> 01:10:51,638 "Jump on the couch in the right order. 1589 01:10:51,682 --> 01:10:52,726 it'll take five minutes." 1590 01:10:52,770 --> 01:10:54,075 So we went back in the car, 1591 01:10:54,119 --> 01:10:57,078 got there, and the house was gone. 1592 01:10:57,122 --> 01:11:00,081 - It was bulldozed into the back of the garden. 1593 01:11:00,125 --> 01:11:03,128 It was just a pile of shit. 1594 01:11:03,171 --> 01:11:06,827 And so we had to use the cover in the wrong order. 1595 01:11:10,614 --> 01:11:13,965 - Watching those guys discover their blend was exciting. 1596 01:11:14,008 --> 01:11:15,358 It was boys in love. 1597 01:11:15,401 --> 01:11:18,578 And I introduced them to Elliot, 1598 01:11:18,622 --> 01:11:20,406 so we became a stable. 1599 01:11:20,450 --> 01:11:24,062 - I was managing Joni, and Crosby, Stills, and Nash. 1600 01:11:24,105 --> 01:11:27,065 I liked working with artists, and their songs, 1601 01:11:27,108 --> 01:11:29,981 and developing them, and their show. 1602 01:11:30,024 --> 01:11:32,679 That first album is very unique. 1603 01:11:32,723 --> 01:11:34,725 - That first Crosby, Stills, & Nash record 1604 01:11:34,768 --> 01:11:38,119 was showing Stephen Stills to be the genius that he is. 1605 01:11:38,163 --> 01:11:40,078 He played almost every instrument 1606 01:11:40,121 --> 01:11:41,601 on that first record. 1607 01:11:41,645 --> 01:11:44,082 He played lead guitar, he played rhythm guitar, 1608 01:11:44,125 --> 01:11:45,562 he played bass, he played piano, 1609 01:11:45,605 --> 01:11:47,999 he played B3, he played percussion. 1610 01:11:48,042 --> 01:11:50,915 One night, we tried to cook "Long Time Gone" 1611 01:11:50,958 --> 01:11:52,351 and we weren't getting it. 1612 01:11:52,395 --> 01:11:54,179 He says, "You know what? Go home. Go." 1613 01:11:54,222 --> 01:11:55,963 And when we came back the next day, 1614 01:11:56,007 --> 01:11:59,793 he had created the track to "Long Time Gone." 1615 01:11:59,837 --> 01:12:01,882 ["Long Time Gone" playing] 1616 01:12:01,926 --> 01:12:05,495 - ♪ It's been a long 1617 01:12:06,626 --> 01:12:08,628 ♪ Time comin' 1618 01:12:08,672 --> 01:12:11,457 - We realized when the record was number one 1619 01:12:11,501 --> 01:12:13,851 that we would have to go out and play live. 1620 01:12:13,894 --> 01:12:15,374 Stephen realized that David and I 1621 01:12:15,418 --> 01:12:17,115 didn't play guitar well enough 1622 01:12:17,158 --> 01:12:18,986 to play lead with him. 1623 01:12:19,030 --> 01:12:21,206 He schemed with Elliot 1624 01:12:21,249 --> 01:12:23,513 and got Neil involved. 1625 01:12:24,427 --> 01:12:26,820 - And I said, "Wait a second here. 1626 01:12:26,864 --> 01:12:30,084 "We just created this beautiful harmony sound. 1627 01:12:30,128 --> 01:12:32,260 You wanna add another voice?" 1628 01:12:32,304 --> 01:12:33,653 I knew that he was a great writer. 1629 01:12:33,697 --> 01:12:35,481 I knew that he was a fine singer, 1630 01:12:35,525 --> 01:12:37,265 but I said, "Why the fuck should we invite you 1631 01:12:37,309 --> 01:12:39,093 into this band, Neil?" 1632 01:12:39,137 --> 01:12:40,617 He goes, "You ever heard me and Stephen 1633 01:12:40,660 --> 01:12:42,358 played guitar together?" 1634 01:12:42,401 --> 01:12:43,228 "Yeah." 1635 01:12:43,271 --> 01:12:45,796 He said, "That's why." 1636 01:12:58,852 --> 01:13:02,813 - Neil joined for the tour. We did Chicago Auditorium. 1637 01:13:02,856 --> 01:13:05,163 Two nights before Woodstock. 1638 01:13:29,143 --> 01:13:31,363 - The Woodstock... It's funny. 1639 01:13:31,407 --> 01:13:33,539 That whole thing started with one of those phone calls 1640 01:13:33,583 --> 01:13:35,715 in my kitchen in Laurel Canyon. 1641 01:13:35,759 --> 01:13:37,543 "Henry, you should be out here in New York. 1642 01:13:37,587 --> 01:13:40,459 We're gonna have a huge music concert." 1643 01:13:40,503 --> 01:13:42,418 So I got out there and spent two weeks 1644 01:13:42,461 --> 01:13:44,768 photographing the building of the whole stage, 1645 01:13:44,811 --> 01:13:46,247 and the grounds, 1646 01:13:46,291 --> 01:13:48,380 and the concert itself for three days. 1647 01:13:49,468 --> 01:13:51,427 - Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young. 1648 01:13:51,470 --> 01:13:54,473 We went there on a helicopter. 1649 01:13:54,517 --> 01:13:56,736 We were nearly about to go on. 1650 01:13:56,780 --> 01:14:00,000 Neil said, "I do not wanna be filmed. 1651 01:14:00,044 --> 01:14:02,002 "Period. I'm here for a concert. 1652 01:14:02,046 --> 01:14:04,004 "I'm gonna play my ass off 1653 01:14:04,048 --> 01:14:06,180 for the people that are here." 1654 01:14:07,312 --> 01:14:09,270 So he was never filmed. 1655 01:14:09,314 --> 01:14:13,274 - Ladies and gentleman, please welcome with us, 1656 01:14:13,318 --> 01:14:17,496 Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young. 1657 01:14:18,671 --> 01:14:21,674 - I remember being terrified. 1658 01:14:21,718 --> 01:14:24,068 But nobody had seen us try to get up 1659 01:14:24,111 --> 01:14:25,635 and sing harmony together, 1660 01:14:25,678 --> 01:14:27,027 so they all came. 1661 01:14:27,071 --> 01:14:28,507 ["Suite: Judy Blue Eyes" playing] 1662 01:14:28,551 --> 01:14:30,030 ♪ It's getting to the point ♪ 1663 01:14:30,074 --> 01:14:34,687 ♪ Where I'm no fun anymore 1664 01:14:35,906 --> 01:14:39,431 - ♪ I am sorry... 1665 01:14:40,519 --> 01:14:44,523 - Everybody we thought was cool in the world 1666 01:14:44,567 --> 01:14:45,785 was standing 1667 01:14:45,829 --> 01:14:48,135 in a huge semicircle behind us. 1668 01:14:48,179 --> 01:14:51,791 - Dead Airplane Band, Hendricks, Who-- 1669 01:14:51,835 --> 01:14:53,793 they were all standing there on stage. 1670 01:14:53,837 --> 01:14:55,273 If it was gonna collapse, 1671 01:14:55,316 --> 01:14:56,666 that's when it would've collapsed. 1672 01:15:45,584 --> 01:15:47,194 - Everybody is really excited. 1673 01:15:47,238 --> 01:15:49,066 You know, you're looking going, 1674 01:15:49,109 --> 01:15:51,764 "Wow, we've never seen this many people at a show before." 1675 01:15:53,636 --> 01:15:55,855 - When it happened for the first time, 1676 01:15:55,899 --> 01:15:58,205 it was something special, because there you were, 1677 01:15:58,249 --> 01:16:01,034 and then we're just realizing, "Hey, we have a generation. 1678 01:16:01,078 --> 01:16:02,688 "We are somebody. 1679 01:16:02,732 --> 01:16:04,734 All of these people are with us." 1680 01:16:04,777 --> 01:16:06,605 - Standing on the stage looking out, 1681 01:16:06,649 --> 01:16:08,520 a sea of faces going off 1682 01:16:08,564 --> 01:16:10,957 all the way back to the horizon. 1683 01:16:11,001 --> 01:16:13,525 All the way to the left and all the way to the right, 1684 01:16:13,569 --> 01:16:15,875 is solid people, 1685 01:16:15,919 --> 01:16:19,575 filling an entire valley, saying, "Wow." 1686 01:16:19,618 --> 01:16:21,751 That was the feeling of Woodstock. 1687 01:16:23,535 --> 01:16:25,885 - So the music is part of that. 1688 01:16:25,929 --> 01:16:29,236 The music is not a commodity or a content. 1689 01:16:29,280 --> 01:16:31,021 The music is the life. 1690 01:16:31,064 --> 01:16:33,501 You're singing your songs and the people are listening. 1691 01:16:33,545 --> 01:16:35,416 It's going back and forth right now. 1692 01:16:35,460 --> 01:16:37,462 That's what was so beautiful. 1693 01:16:38,768 --> 01:16:41,727 - There was a feeling going on with everybody at that point. 1694 01:16:41,771 --> 01:16:45,470 We felt very encouraged by seeing each other. 1695 01:16:45,513 --> 01:16:48,691 Everybody was thrilled that there were so many of us. 1696 01:16:49,953 --> 01:16:51,432 We thought, "Hey, 1697 01:16:51,476 --> 01:16:53,391 we're gonna change everything." 1698 01:16:56,133 --> 01:16:57,787 Didn't work out that way. 1699 01:17:13,933 --> 01:17:17,197 ["So You Want to Be a Rock 'n' Roll Star" playing] 1700 01:17:40,786 --> 01:17:43,484 - ♪ So you want to be a rock and roll star? ♪ 1701 01:17:43,528 --> 01:17:47,053 ♪ Then listen now to what I say ♪ 1702 01:17:47,097 --> 01:17:49,577 ♪ Just get an electric guitar ♪ 1703 01:17:49,621 --> 01:17:53,538 ♪ Then take some time and learn how to play ♪ 1704 01:17:53,581 --> 01:17:56,019 ♪ And with your hair swung right ♪ 1705 01:17:56,062 --> 01:17:57,498 ♪ And your pants too tight 1706 01:17:57,542 --> 01:17:59,805 ♪ It's gonna be all right 1707 01:17:59,849 --> 01:18:02,112 ♪ Then it's time to go downtown ♪ 1708 01:18:02,155 --> 01:18:06,203 ♪ Where the agent man won't let you down ♪ 1709 01:18:06,246 --> 01:18:08,118 ♪ Sell your soul to the company ♪ 1710 01:18:08,161 --> 01:18:12,165 ♪ Who are waiting there to sell plastic ware ♪ 1711 01:18:12,209 --> 01:18:15,995 ♪ And in a week or two if you make the charts ♪ 1712 01:18:16,039 --> 01:18:18,737 ♪ The girls will tear you apart ♪ 1713 01:18:43,240 --> 01:18:45,721 ♪ The price you paid for your riches and fame ♪ 1714 01:18:45,764 --> 01:18:47,418 ♪ Was it all a strange game? 1715 01:18:47,461 --> 01:18:49,289 ♪ You're a little insane 1716 01:18:49,333 --> 01:18:52,205 ♪ The money, the fame, and the public acclaim ♪ 1717 01:18:52,249 --> 01:18:53,641 ♪ Don't forget who you are 1718 01:18:53,685 --> 01:18:55,774 ♪ You're a rock and roll star ♪ 1719 01:18:55,775 --> 01:18:56,775 ffgff 1720 01:18:56,776 --> 01:18:57,776 34 tre fgg 1721 01:18:57,777 --> 01:18:58,777 yes yes 1722 01:18:58,778 --> 01:18:59,778 on no no the 129596

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