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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:03,480 CHILDREN CHEER 2 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:03,480 You recognise me? Who am I? 3 00:00:03,480 --> 00:00:05,080 CHILDREN SHOUT Elephant! Thank you very much. 4 00:00:05,080 --> 00:00:06,880 I'm Rabbi Elephant. 5 00:00:06,880 --> 00:00:09,360 Who's in this costume? Don't tell anyone! 6 00:00:09,360 --> 00:00:10,800 It's a really big secret, 7 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:14,360 but it is actually Rabbi Rubin, the one and only. 8 00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:17,000 Rabbi Rubin is the Senior Rabbi of Scotland, which means 9 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:18,920 he's right at the top there. 10 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:20,320 Moshe, you'd better go. 11 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:22,080 Well, here's the car keys. 12 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:25,200 What's a mensch, Tate? 13 00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:28,400 A mensch is a decent person. A decent person. 14 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:30,000 What do I do? 15 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:32,440 It's a difficult one. I'm the rabbi's wife. 16 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:34,680 The rabbi's wife is called the rebbetzin. 17 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:38,440 Some rebbetzin are quite, you know, THE rebbetzin, 18 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:40,040 but I don't think I'm like that. 19 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:42,640 My name is Mark Cohen. 20 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:45,840 I own the only kosher deli in Scotland. 21 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:47,920 The customer is always right. 22 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:49,720 My name is Kathleen Hagler. 23 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:53,080 I grew up in Hungary and then I lived in Israel 24 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:55,560 and then I came to Scotland. 25 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:59,520 My name's David Simons and my grandmother said when the tram 26 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:02,480 came to the Battlefield Rest, the conductor would shout out, 27 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:04,520 "Jerusalem, next stop." 28 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:07,320 OK, everybody, are you sitting comfortably? 29 00:01:07,320 --> 00:01:08,680 Which you appear to be. 30 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:11,640 My name is Rabbi Pete Tobias and I'm just back to help 31 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:14,360 this congregation find its way into the future, 32 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:16,000 whatever that future might be. 33 00:01:17,320 --> 00:01:19,400 There are people who say that they're Jewish 34 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:21,280 in every part of Scotland. 35 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:22,680 For some, it might be culture. 36 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:25,360 For some, it might be family history. 37 00:01:29,320 --> 00:01:32,200 SINGING 38 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:39,240 What being Jewish means to me, that's a very big question. 39 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:42,160 You probably wouldn't catch me going to a synagogue service 40 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:44,160 unless there was a particular reason. 41 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:46,120 We didn't want to get dressed up in a suit 42 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:47,800 and go to synagogue on a Saturday. 43 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:50,640 We wanted to be watching football on the telly. 44 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:54,000 I wear a kippah all the time. 45 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:55,440 I cover my hair. 46 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:56,920 This is a wig. 47 00:01:56,920 --> 00:01:58,320 That's the way I've been brought up. 48 00:01:58,320 --> 00:02:00,600 I don't even think about it any more. 49 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:04,120 I am not religious, so it is not the religion itself 50 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:05,640 that makes me Jewish. 51 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:08,680 It is...my history. 52 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:11,320 The history of my people. 53 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:14,360 For me, being Jewish revolves around food. 54 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:16,240 Latkes, gefilte fish. 55 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:18,120 Kosher haggis, that's the perfect 56 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:20,200 fusion of being Scottish and Jewish. 57 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:22,840 So you can be Jewish and not eat chicken soup. 58 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:24,720 The world has transformed. 59 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:27,680 I always felt this... 60 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:32,120 ..almost like an umbilical cord kind of pulling me to Judaism. 61 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:35,000 There's a kind of joke - ask two Jews, get three opinions. 62 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:39,040 I love that because, as a nerd, I feel like it's a culture 63 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:41,720 that really embraces nerds. 64 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:47,120 I think today in every community, you have to be a bit more creative. 65 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:50,160 Ultimately, the outside world is going to come inside. 66 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:53,680 If we're just this unique club that you can only be a member 67 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:57,240 if you have particular genetic credentials, 68 00:02:57,240 --> 00:03:01,320 there's a very bleak future for the community. 69 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:04,200 I personally take the view if you're daft enough 70 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:06,280 to want to be Jewish, then we'll have you! 71 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:16,240 # Light up the night with the candles burning bright 72 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:19,840 # On the festival of light here on Hanukkah... # 73 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:22,760 Good evening and happy Hanukkah. 74 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:28,480 Welcome to the Scottish National Hanukkah Celebration 2021. 75 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:30,400 CHEERING 76 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:49,000 These candles that we light are for the miracles and the wonders 77 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:50,720 performed by God. 78 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:53,240 HE SPEAKS HEBREW 79 00:03:56,000 --> 00:04:01,320 Hanukkah is the Jewish Festival of Light and we celebrate it 80 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:05,200 by lighting a special candelabrum that we only use on this festival. 81 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:06,920 THEY SING 82 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:12,240 SHE SINGS 83 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:18,080 Well, my granny was religious and she taught me 84 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:20,160 to read Hebrew, to read the prayers in Hebrew, 85 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:22,720 but I couldn't understand a single word. 86 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:26,160 I don't think my granny understood it either. 87 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:29,200 We light it every night for eight nights 88 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:31,880 and each night, we add an extra candle. 89 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:35,280 And I think the fact that it's so dark in Scotland 90 00:04:35,280 --> 00:04:38,360 so early makes it extra special. 91 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:44,120 When I first came to Scotland as a tourist in the '70s, 92 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:46,600 I fell in love with Scotland. 93 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:49,560 I fell in love with Scottish history. 94 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:53,160 I felt that the Scots suffered over the centuries... 95 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:59,280 ..just like the Jews suffered over the centuries and the millennia 96 00:04:59,280 --> 00:05:02,520 and I felt that I may just fit in. 97 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:07,200 No way. No, you cannot. That's cheating. 98 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:09,480 It has to be right side up. It doesn't HAVE to be right side up. 99 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:10,640 It really doesn't. 100 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:13,080 So this is the game of dreidel that we play on Hanukkah 101 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:15,640 and we're just playing for M&Ms. 102 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:19,320 The four letters on the dreidel are an acronym for a phrase 103 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:22,080 "a great miracle happen", which is a reference 104 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:23,880 to the miracle of Hanukkah. 105 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:25,200 OK, we'll play one more round. 106 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:26,640 My name is Emily Michelson. 107 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:29,800 I'm a lecturer in history at the University of St Andrews, 108 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:33,040 and that is how we moved to Scotland. 109 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:34,760 I'm Bill Shackman. 110 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:40,080 We have three children who are now 16, 13 and ten, 111 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:44,040 and the youngest was born here in St Andrews. 112 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:46,000 That's not tradition! Yeah. 113 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:50,360 We knew that we were taking a risk in leaving a Jewish community 114 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:52,920 in order to move here, erm... 115 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:55,640 ..but we did. And here we are. 116 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:00,480 We're not... All right, I get the pot. 117 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:02,720 How many do you think I could fit in my mouth at once? 17.5. 118 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:04,400 What happens to the other half? 119 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:22,560 Right, just bung it on top and I'll get a box, OK? 120 00:06:23,840 --> 00:06:27,040 We're busy because it's Hanukkah. 121 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:30,040 Lots of people want latkes and doughnuts. 122 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:33,840 So, latkes are like little potato fritters, but better. 123 00:06:33,840 --> 00:06:37,600 It's potato, onion, wee bit of matzo meal, which is like flour, 124 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:40,200 a lightly shallow fried. 125 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:41,400 They are incredible. 126 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:43,680 We literally can't make them fast enough. 127 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:47,040 The festival of Hanukkah, 128 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:51,640 it celebrates a miracle when a bottle of oil in the temple 129 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:54,560 lasted eight days instead of one day. 130 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:58,400 Doughnuts are fried in oil, latkes are fried in oil. 131 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:02,640 All Jewish festivals are surrounding food, basically. 132 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:04,640 Hello. Any latkes today? 133 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:05,880 They're being made as we speak. 134 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:07,240 How many would you like? 135 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:08,560 Eight. Eight. 136 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:10,600 Right, I need eight latkes, please. 137 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:14,280 This is ten kilos of potatoes, 138 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:19,080 12 eggs, six onions, salt, pepper and flour. 139 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:20,680 That's all that goes into latkes. 140 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:23,360 There's no secret ingredients. 141 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:28,960 I'm Doreen Cohen and I help my son, Mark, in his deli. 142 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:32,280 I retired from my own catering company and I thought 143 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:35,720 I was going to be a lady of leisure, but that didn't happen. 144 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:36,840 Oh. Come again. 145 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:38,880 Oh, right, right, sorry. 146 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:40,760 My mum and I work very well together. 147 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:42,440 We can shout and scream at each other 148 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:46,040 and then, by the end of the day, you've forgotten all about it. 149 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:48,440 You know, what goes on in the shop stays in the shop. 150 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:51,040 She's the cook. She can make good food. 151 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:53,480 I tried to make a chopped liver brulee - 152 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:55,760 I wanted to fuse two things that I liked together, 153 00:07:55,760 --> 00:07:57,200 a creme brulee and chopped liver - 154 00:07:57,200 --> 00:07:58,680 and it was horrible. 155 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:01,360 Right, so that's another... 156 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:04,400 That's two. Fresh latkes, literally just made. 157 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:07,080 Ta-da! That's eight. OK? 158 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:08,480 Oh, no, I meant eight packets. 159 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:10,720 Eight packets?! Uh-huh! 160 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:12,840 Right, so it's 48 latkes I need, not eight. 161 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:35,480 MAN SINGS 162 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:45,520 I am Rabbi Moshe Rubin. 163 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:49,200 I am the Senior Rabbi of Scotland. 164 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:53,360 My pulpit position is at Giffnock Newton Mearns Synagogue. 165 00:08:56,160 --> 00:08:59,120 When I came here 33 years ago, my own congregation 166 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:01,480 had over 1,000 members. 167 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:02,680 We don't have that today, 168 00:09:02,680 --> 00:09:07,600 but what hasn't really changed in Glasgow community is the buzz. 169 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:09,200 Glasgow's an interesting community. 170 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:11,240 It seems to punch way above its weight. 171 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:16,000 Hello, everyone. 172 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:18,240 OTHERS GREET HIM 173 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:21,400 My senior role deals with many other areas of work. 174 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:25,160 For instance, chaplain to Calderwood Lodge Primary School, 175 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:27,200 which is the only Jewish school in Scotland. 176 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:28,520 So, boys and girls, 177 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:31,840 each and every one of you in this room are blessed 178 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:33,920 with amazing talent. 179 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:36,360 Some of you might be brilliant at maths. 180 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:38,920 Trust me, I'm not one of them. 181 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:41,640 Calderwood Lodge is run by East Renfrewshire Council 182 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:46,120 and it combines Jewish studies and secular studies. 183 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:49,360 # Torah, Torah, Torah 184 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:51,560 # Torah, Torah, Torah 185 00:09:51,560 --> 00:09:55,120 # Tziva lanu Moshe. # 186 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:56,880 The kippah is part of uniform. 187 00:09:56,880 --> 00:09:59,720 The food that's served from the kitchen is all kosher. 188 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:01,880 We have a lot of children in the school who are Jewish, 189 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:04,160 but we have a lot of children in the school from other 190 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:05,280 faiths as well. 191 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:08,320 We have Muslim children in the school and children of no 192 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:09,720 denomination as well. 193 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:13,320 # Bim bam, bim bam, bim bam 194 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:16,800 # Bim bam, bim bam, bim bam... # 195 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:20,240 It's important that they have that strong identity of who they are, 196 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:24,040 of their story, of their history and the importance of community. 197 00:10:24,040 --> 00:10:26,800 All this comes from Calderwood Lodge Primary School. 198 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:30,560 There are plenty of songs that you all know, so please join in 199 00:10:30,560 --> 00:10:33,840 and sing along or, in true Glasgow fashion, sing "lai lai lai". 200 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:34,880 LAUGHTER 201 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:38,320 I was born in America. 202 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:41,760 I left America just after my Bar Mitzvah when I was 13 years old 203 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:44,800 and then when I was 20, I married my wife. 204 00:10:46,560 --> 00:10:50,440 So, I met my husband on what's called the shidduch. 205 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:56,760 So, somebody who knows both families will traditionally call up and say, 206 00:10:56,760 --> 00:11:01,320 "I've got a boy for your daughter. I've got a daughter for your son." 207 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:05,080 There's phone calls and phone calls to friends, to rabbis, to teachers, 208 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:07,360 just so you get a picture of what the family is like, 209 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:08,840 if the families are compatible. 210 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:13,080 And the funny thing was that my father-in-law was speaking 211 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:16,880 to somebody before we got engaged and said, 212 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:20,760 "Oh, I need somebody for my son, a girl for my son, 213 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:24,960 "but not from the traditional Hasidic families, I need somebody 214 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:28,280 "a bit more...with a bit more worldly view." 215 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:31,640 And he said, "What you want is one of the Cohen girls." 216 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:32,880 APPLAUSE 217 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:37,840 We're blessed with eight children. 218 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:39,480 Five are married. 219 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:41,760 Some live in America. 220 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:44,960 When we got married, we decided to come and live in Glasgow. 221 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:48,520 Almost 33 years later, it still feels like two years. 222 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:56,200 I always refer to my community as a family of families. 223 00:11:56,200 --> 00:11:59,520 And, yes, I'm maybe at the head of this family 224 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:01,760 and so is my wife and my children. 225 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:05,280 You know, it's the first family in Glasgow. 226 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:07,800 You're missing one number. 227 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:09,160 What did I get wrong? 228 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:11,440 Because you didn't times it by 100. 229 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:14,280 So it's 4%, not 1.4%. 230 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:19,440 So the two kids I've got at home, Perele is 16 and Solly is 13. 231 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:20,920 He just had his Bar Mitzvah. 232 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:25,480 And even before lockdown, we were home-schooling them to make 233 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:28,920 sure that specifically their Jewish knowledge was on par 234 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:31,800 with their peers in other places. 235 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:32,920 These are the easy ones. 236 00:12:32,920 --> 00:12:34,880 All you've got to do is move the decimal point. 237 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:39,200 I teach girls who are coming up to their Bat Chayil, 238 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:41,360 which is their 12th birthday. 239 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:43,560 We have guests Friday night, 240 00:12:43,560 --> 00:12:46,200 so that's my domain to do the cooking. 241 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:54,560 PHONE RINGS 242 00:12:56,200 --> 00:12:57,960 Hello, Mark's Deli. 243 00:12:57,960 --> 00:13:01,720 There's lots of places in Scotland where there is a Jewish family. 244 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:04,280 I know that because we send random things that they can't 245 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:05,720 get anywhere else. 246 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:07,720 If people want to eat kosher food, they need to be able 247 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:09,080 to buy kosher food. 248 00:13:14,680 --> 00:13:16,920 We don't mix milk and meat. 249 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:19,160 We have lots of dishes in Jewish households. 250 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:21,240 You know, I have a meat set of dishes 251 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:23,040 and I have a milk set of dishes. 252 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:25,000 And then I've got a good set of milk dishes 253 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:26,520 and a good set of meat dishes. 254 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:28,760 So everything is kept separate. 255 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:32,280 I'm the fourth generation of my family 256 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:34,200 to be in the kosher food business. 257 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:40,160 My great-grandparents came to Scotland between 1900-1910, 258 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:43,480 I would think, and they all came from either Poland or Lithuania. 259 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:49,040 You know, they found their way to the Gorbals, 260 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:50,640 the centre of the Jewish community, 261 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:53,400 and they found help, you know, to settle. 262 00:13:56,960 --> 00:13:59,920 My great-great-aunt was Sophie Geneen, 263 00:13:59,920 --> 00:14:02,960 who had a kosher hotel and restaurant in the Gorbals. 264 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:05,600 Very well known for feeding refugees 265 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:08,240 if they came to Glasgow, for example. 266 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:11,360 So, following on from that, was my great-aunt, Annie Cooper, 267 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:15,720 who had Cohen's Deli, and people even now talk about my Auntie Annie, 268 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:18,440 you know, how they used to go in, they'd get a wee bit of wurst 269 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:21,080 if they were a kid, just to munch on so their mum could do the shopping 270 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:22,600 without any interruptions. 271 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:24,440 And she was basically everyone's Auntie Annie, 272 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:25,920 whether you were blood family or not. 273 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:29,720 So then after my Auntie Annie was my mum. 274 00:14:29,720 --> 00:14:31,280 It's in our blood. 275 00:14:31,280 --> 00:14:35,040 We keep the community fed on kosher food, basically that's it. 276 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:53,920 I'm Deborah Haase. 277 00:14:53,920 --> 00:14:57,800 I'm Glasgow born and raised and we're in Garnethill Synagogue, 278 00:14:57,800 --> 00:15:00,720 which is the oldest purpose-built synagogue in Glasgow. 279 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:07,280 I'm the honorary curator with the Scottish Jewish Archive Centre. 280 00:15:07,280 --> 00:15:11,120 Garnethill Synagogue traces back to the oldest community, 281 00:15:11,120 --> 00:15:15,480 which started down in the high street in Glasgow about 1823. 282 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:18,120 Edinburgh a little bit earlier, about 1816. 283 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:21,400 Dundee's coming along at that time as well. 284 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:24,840 It's the industrialisation of Scotland that's attracting people 285 00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:28,720 into traditional areas for trade and so on. 286 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:37,000 Just before the First World War, we saw a big influx of Jewish people 287 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:39,800 who are fleeing from what, essentially, was the beginning 288 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:42,160 of the collapse of the Russian Empire, 289 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:47,000 so Latvia, Lithuania, Poland, Belarus, Russia itself and so on, 290 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:51,120 and most of them tended to settle at that time in the Gorbals area. 291 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:53,720 There was the Jewish bakers, 292 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:54,960 the Jewish butchers, 293 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:57,440 the Jewish grocers, everything. 294 00:15:57,440 --> 00:15:59,760 People lived in the area, they worked in the area 295 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:01,840 and there were a myriad of synagogues. 296 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:03,920 You could call it the Glasgow shtetl. 297 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:14,720 Couldn't recommend a good barber, could you? 298 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:16,600 LAUGHTER 299 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:17,640 Erm... 300 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:20,200 Mine's gone out of business. 301 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:21,560 I'm Ephraim Borowski. 302 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:26,040 I'm the director of the Scottish Council of Jewish Communities. 303 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:28,080 I'm an interesting hybrid. 304 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:35,360 My mother's family arrived in Scotland at the beginning 305 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:40,480 of the 20th century as refugees from Russia. 306 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:46,480 And my father was a Holocaust survivor who arrived 307 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:52,120 just before the war, which probably saved his life because six 308 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:54,440 of his siblings did not survive. 309 00:16:56,560 --> 00:17:00,040 And then there's a third wave between 2-3,000 people 310 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:06,680 who escaped from the Nazis and found sanctuary in Scotland. 311 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:08,560 While a lot of people are flowing through, 312 00:17:08,560 --> 00:17:10,240 A lot of people were sticking. 313 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:26,520 I don't know if anybody would consider me Scottish... 314 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:30,880 ..but I consider myself, yes. 315 00:17:32,360 --> 00:17:35,600 Well, I used to speak five languages. 316 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:38,680 That's Hungarian, followed by Russian, 317 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:41,520 followed by German, followed by English, 318 00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:43,320 followed by Hebrew. 319 00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:47,000 But...I forgot my Russian now. 320 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:50,440 If you don't use it, you lose it. 321 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:55,600 I was born Jewish. 322 00:17:55,600 --> 00:18:00,200 My grandmother, who brought me up, was an Orthodox Jew. 323 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:03,200 She was a lovely, lovely person and I loved her very much. 324 00:18:04,480 --> 00:18:06,240 Then I lived with my aunt, 325 00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:08,920 but I was the black sheep in the family. 326 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:10,400 I wanted to learn things. 327 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:11,600 I loved education. 328 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:13,240 I loved school. 329 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:15,640 They were not interested in all those things, 330 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:17,320 so I went to live on a kibbutz. 331 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:23,000 As a child, my granny made all my decisions for me. 332 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:28,240 As a young adult, my aunt made all the decisions for me. 333 00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:30,880 The kibbutz then made all the decisions for me 334 00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:34,360 and I said, "When am I going to make my own life?" 335 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:38,920 So I left the kibbutz and I came to Scotland. 336 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:46,000 Inverness was, in the '70s, much smaller than it is today. 337 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:51,000 It has changed now, but I grew old here and I got used to it. 338 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:52,760 I suppose people got used to me. 339 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:05,000 Well, you wanted to see pictures. 340 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:09,160 My granny kept them. 341 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:11,000 That's the only reason I have them. 342 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:20,440 SHE CHUCKLES 343 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:21,480 That's me. 344 00:19:22,720 --> 00:19:24,760 That's a small child. 345 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:26,200 Had very long hair. 346 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:28,280 Two huge plaits. 347 00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:35,960 And that was my mother and my father on their wedding day 348 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:38,520 in 1930-something. 349 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:40,560 I don't even know the date. 350 00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:44,520 My father was probably an accountant. 351 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:47,040 I don't know for sure. 352 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:49,160 I think that my mother was a housewife. 353 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:56,120 I never knew my parents. 354 00:19:56,120 --> 00:20:01,440 My father was taken into slave labour when I was a baby. 355 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:09,000 My mother, my brother and my sister were all killed in Auschwitz. 356 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:10,880 My father never came back. 357 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:15,560 Nobody knows where he died, when he died or how he died 358 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:17,440 and nobody will ever know. 359 00:20:20,360 --> 00:20:23,520 That's my brother and me. 360 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:30,000 The only reason I know his age when he died was because there is 361 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:32,440 a date on the back of the picture. 362 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:40,400 I've got the pictures of my brother, not of my sister. 363 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:42,560 She never had a picture. 364 00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:45,400 My father didn't even know he had another daughter. 365 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:53,880 I was stolen out of the Munkacs ghetto as a toddler 366 00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:58,440 and was brought up by my maternal grandmother and my aunt. 367 00:21:07,360 --> 00:21:10,920 They realised there is something wrong. Very, very wrong. 368 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:17,960 They paid somebody, a Christian man, and he went to try to get us out 369 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:19,600 from the ghetto. 370 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:22,320 The idea was to get my brother out. 371 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:24,040 He was nine years old by that time. 372 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:30,680 I was saved by mistake because my brother was ill at the time, 373 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:34,480 so he couldn't go, so he took me out instead. 374 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:42,480 And then he went back a week or ten days later to get him out. 375 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:44,560 By that time, there was nobody left. 376 00:21:52,360 --> 00:21:59,160 Have you ever heard about... the idea of survivor's guilt? 377 00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:02,600 I survived... 378 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:06,960 ..but I shouldn't have survived. 379 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:09,280 It should have been my brother who should... 380 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:10,840 ..should have survived. 381 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:18,040 I don't think I can ever forgive myself... 382 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:21,240 ..for being the one who survived. 383 00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:29,000 It's not that... I don't think about it every day. 384 00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:33,000 It's not my fault. 385 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:34,520 I realise it's not my fault. 386 00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:35,960 Nothing is my fault. 387 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:38,560 But... 388 00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:44,000 ..my brother should have survived, not me. 389 00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:59,280 I'm just not a religious person by nature, 390 00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:03,880 but there is a prayer that I say six times a year. 391 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:08,760 It's called Yizkor, which means "remember", 392 00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:13,920 and it's to remember not just my parents, but to all the Jews 393 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:16,600 who were killed over the history. 394 00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:20,640 If anybody made me Jewish, 395 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:25,080 it was Hitler that made me sure that I remain Jewish forever. 396 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:50,520 Oh, gosh. Look at that. 397 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:52,520 That is the best. 398 00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:54,280 This is challah. 399 00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:00,120 SHE SPEAKS HEBREW 400 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:08,040 Challah's become a special bread for Shabbat, to remember the manner 401 00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:11,720 that we had when the Jewish people were wandering in the desert 402 00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:15,080 and on a Friday it would be a double portion because they wouldn't be 403 00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:17,800 able to go out on the Sabbath to collect it, 404 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:21,720 so to remember that, we have two challahs at every meal. 405 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:23,640 It is like a special woman's mitzvah, 406 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:25,320 a special, like, woman's commandment, 407 00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:29,280 so I guess the women in the house... Do it together. 408 00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:30,320 ..do it together, yeah. 409 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:32,560 Is it always women that do the baking? 410 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:34,000 Is that... Are men allowed to? 411 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:36,400 No, there's plenty men who do it. 412 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:39,320 There's men... men in the community who do it. 413 00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:44,360 The men in our house don't do so much baking, erm... 414 00:24:44,360 --> 00:24:46,640 ..but they do quality control, so... 415 00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:50,160 For normal Shabbat, we do either a four plait or a six plait. 416 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:53,440 It is quite time-consuming, 417 00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:55,640 so when my older children were little, 418 00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:57,320 I didn't do it for many years. 419 00:24:57,320 --> 00:25:00,080 Now you see them all grown up, it's fabulous. 420 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:02,480 And then they come home and become children again! 421 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:03,840 LAUGHTER 422 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:04,880 PHONE CHIMES 423 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:08,040 Oh... Speaking of which! That's her. That'll be her, from Israel. 424 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:11,880 Hello. I haven't spoken to you since Monday, I just realised. 425 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:13,920 "I didn't speak to you since Monday!" 426 00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:15,000 LAUGHTER 427 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:17,560 They call, like, at least three times every day. 428 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:20,600 One sister, I think, one time, called eight times in one day 429 00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:22,640 and she was like, "Oh, I made a new record." 430 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:25,680 I will speak to you later. Bye, Mum. Bye! 431 00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:27,920 So that was daughter number three in Israel. 432 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:36,760 Shabbat is a special day when everybody goes to the synagogue. 433 00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:39,360 On Shabbat, you really stop everything. 434 00:25:39,360 --> 00:25:43,200 No electricity, erm... and so that includes no phones. 435 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:47,040 And so, for 25 hours, even in the 21st century, 436 00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:49,040 you're not checking your emails 437 00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:50,920 or doing this or doing that or even cooking. 438 00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:53,440 Like, you're just...just being. Just being. 439 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:13,360 It's four o'clock now and Shabbat starts in just about two hours. 440 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:18,800 So, because we don't cook on Shabbat and we don't turn electricity 441 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:22,080 on and off, we need a way to keep food warm, 442 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:25,920 so we have this lovely hotplate and all we have to do on Shabbat 443 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:28,640 is remember to put the food on it a couple of hours 444 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:30,760 before we want to eat. 445 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:34,240 So it will be on until ten o'clock tonight. 446 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:38,680 And we have a massive urn so that we can have a hot drink 447 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:40,040 without heating up the water 448 00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:43,280 because even heating up the water counts as cooking. 449 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:49,440 The Sabbath, Shabbat, has rules about things that you should do 450 00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:52,320 and rules about things that you should not do, 451 00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:56,320 and that's intended to help you have a day of rest. 452 00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:57,400 And we rest. 453 00:26:57,400 --> 00:27:02,240 We rest really, really hard, I would say. 454 00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:03,760 At sunset or just before sunset, 455 00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:06,120 we will light the Shabbat candles and that is the moment 456 00:27:06,120 --> 00:27:07,200 when Shabbat starts. 457 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:09,440 I tend to light them and then say... 458 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:11,040 SHE SIGHS 459 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:11,040 .."we made it." 460 00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:16,520 To be perfectly honest, I will say that when we say goodbye 461 00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:19,760 to Shabbat on a Saturday night, the first thing that happens 462 00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:22,240 afterwards is that everybody runs for their phone - 463 00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:24,160 and I have to include myself in this - 464 00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:26,400 and, at the moment, we have to... 465 00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:28,520 ..we have to maintain our Wordle streaks. 466 00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:37,720 When we moved here, we moved to a place that didn't 467 00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:39,840 have any Jewish infrastructure. 468 00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:42,560 There were no other Jewish families, to our knowledge. 469 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:46,520 Yeah, the closest synagogue was in Dundee. It sadly closed. 470 00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:51,920 When we realised we were here for the long term, 471 00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:56,800 we very consciously started having Rosh Hashanah and Yom Kippur 472 00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:58,800 services here for the students. 473 00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:03,200 We lived in Jerusalem, we lived in New York City. 474 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:05,400 I miss having a Shabbat community. 475 00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:06,920 I missed having a synagogue. 476 00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:09,960 I miss the learning opportunities that my kids have not had. 477 00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:22,120 Our kids won't to have a community in the way that we envisioned 478 00:28:22,120 --> 00:28:25,120 and would have wanted ideally for them. 479 00:28:25,120 --> 00:28:30,320 And, unfortunately, to feel really comfortable in a Jewish community, 480 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:33,760 it really helps to have practical skills, 481 00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:37,160 like some level of comfort with Hebrew language, 482 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:39,240 knowing your way around a prayer book, 483 00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:42,080 knowing the festivals enough that you don't feel intimidated 484 00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:44,040 around certain practices. 485 00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:48,240 And it's much harder to give our kids that on our own. 486 00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:52,760 And so I fear that they will someday move to a place with more community, 487 00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:56,080 and although they have felt really Jewish their whole lives, 488 00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:59,000 somehow they won't feel welcome or they won't feel like they know 489 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:02,080 enough, or they won't feel like they're similar enough to other people. 490 00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:04,520 They won't feel at home. They won't feel at home. Yeah. 491 00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:10,360 It's a big gamble and we won't know how that pays off. 492 00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:13,720 This is our heritage and our tradition. 493 00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:18,680 And it's important to us and important to pass on. Yeah. 494 00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:21,720 And we hope that they also want to carry it on in some way. 495 00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:41,760 The Jewish experience in Scotland has changed so much in my lifetime. 496 00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:44,080 I mean, when I was growing up in the '50s, 497 00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:48,920 there must have been around 15,000 or so Jewish people in Glasgow 498 00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:51,880 and maybe 20 plus or whatever across Scotland. 499 00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:55,880 I mean, now we argue is there are four or five or 6,000 Jewish 500 00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:57,280 people in Scotland. 501 00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:07,840 My name is David Simons and I'm a novelist. 502 00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:11,480 We're standing outside the old Queen's Park Synagogue. 503 00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:15,440 This is where I had my Bar Mitzvah, it's where my parents were married. 504 00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:18,840 And, and it's now been turned into a block of flats. 505 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:27,960 This was a very bustling and vibrant community, 506 00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:30,600 not just during the week, but especially the high holidays 507 00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:32,920 of Rosh Hashanah and Yom Kippur. 508 00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:37,000 There weren't enough seats, I mean, and it is a big synagogue. 509 00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:40,480 And so we always remember that we used to have to lay out rows 510 00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:43,840 of folding chairs to accommodate the overspill. 511 00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:47,800 And it's hard to believe now that that is no longer the case. 512 00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:56,120 I was brought up in in Pollokshields. 513 00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:59,480 My maternal grandfather was one of the founders 514 00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:04,440 of Langside Synagogue, which sadly is now just a shell of a building. 515 00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:09,520 I mean, the irony is if you took your religion seriously, 516 00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:12,640 then probably Glasgow wasn't, 517 00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:17,560 it wasn't Jewish enough or religious enough to, to be an Orthodox Jew. 518 00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:20,640 And so you would move to Manchester, you would move to Leeds 519 00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:24,040 or you'd move to, you know, more than likely to London. 520 00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:27,640 Then there's a lot of intermarriage which dissipated the community. 521 00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:29,600 Many of the children grew up, 522 00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:31,840 they went to London, they went to Israel. 523 00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:35,240 And the parents, you know, once their own houses got empty, 524 00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:38,440 they followed and they went to live near their children. 525 00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:44,160 Orthodox people will want to have a synagogue within walking 526 00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:48,120 distance because they don't drive or travel on Shabbat. 527 00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:52,480 And, therefore, it's inevitable that as people move, 528 00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:55,840 the synagogue that's no longer within walking distance 529 00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:57,000 gets left behind. 530 00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:01,360 It's like a brick wall. 531 00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:03,720 You take a little brick out of the wall, 532 00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:06,240 the whole wall threatens to crumble. 533 00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:08,480 And that does affect the community. 534 00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:10,800 When a shul closes here a shul closes there, 535 00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:12,240 it just leaves a mark, 536 00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:15,080 it leaves a feeling the community is shrinking. 537 00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:19,320 I mean, there may still be a significant number of Jewish 538 00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:24,080 people, but their lives don't centre around the synagogue any more. 539 00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:38,880 RADIO: Monday morning. Good morning, Scotland. 540 00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:41,720 And our thought for the day comes from Rabbi Pete Tobias 541 00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:43,920 of the Glasgow Reform Synagogue. 542 00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:46,840 Good morning, Gary. Can this really be happening? 543 00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:50,000 Are we really on the verge of another war in Europe? 544 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:54,360 The war to end all wars ended just over 100 years ago, 545 00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:57,640 and yet was followed by another just two decades later. 546 00:32:57,640 --> 00:32:59,520 And once again, it would seem... 547 00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:01,240 My name is Rabbi Pete Tobias. 548 00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:03,560 When I first got here, people only joined the synagogue 549 00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:06,240 because they were not allowed to join an Orthodox synagogue 550 00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:09,720 because of Judaism's fairly strict rules about Jewish status. 551 00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:14,320 I'm not sure how much that's changed, but in a traditional Jewish 552 00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:17,600 world, if your mother ain't Jewish, then you ain't. 553 00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:23,120 The reform movement takes a slightly less rigid view. 554 00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:32,600 Shabbat shalom to you, Zoomers, and Shabbat shalom 555 00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:35,480 to those of you who are here this morning. 556 00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:40,480 When Reformed synagogues were first established over 200 years ago 557 00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:44,600 in Germany, initially they were based on the idea that it's meant 558 00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:46,760 to be far more inclusive. 559 00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:51,000 In a reformed synagogue, men and women sit together 560 00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:54,840 as an acceptance that some, if not all, 561 00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:57,680 of what's in the Torah was written by human beings. 562 00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:00,800 HE SINGS IN HEBREW 563 00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:04,480 Everybody has a kind of a different point where they draw a line 564 00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:06,880 where they decide, "Yes, I'll do that on the Sabbath, 565 00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:09,160 "even though I know I'm not supposed to". 566 00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:13,520 Reform Judaism encourages people to make their own decisions on these matters. 567 00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:16,840 "And no fire shall be lit in any of your settlements 568 00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:18,360 "on the Sabbath day." 569 00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:21,760 So once the rabbis got their hands on, it led to a whole series 570 00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:24,640 of interpretations of Sabbath ovens, 571 00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:27,160 and not switching this on and not heating that up, 572 00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:32,720 suddenly became a big part of the observance of Shabbat. 573 00:34:32,720 --> 00:34:35,240 Judaism has always adapted. Always. 574 00:34:35,240 --> 00:34:39,280 I mean, if Moses turned up in Glasgow tomorrow and he went 575 00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:42,760 to an Orthodox siddur, he wouldn't recognise any of it. 576 00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:49,960 PRAYING IN HEBREW IN DISTANCE 577 00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:52,560 UNTRANSLATED 578 00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:54,520 Now, in Orthodox tradition, 579 00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:56,520 three times a day we have our services. 580 00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:59,680 So we have morning, afternoon and evening. 581 00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:02,040 In order to be able to do the service properly, 582 00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:03,760 you have to have ten men. 583 00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:06,240 We work hard to make sure we get that and sometimes 584 00:35:06,240 --> 00:35:08,400 we have a have to send out a WhatsApp. 585 00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:10,280 "We need an extra man, extra two men." 586 00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:11,920 Why do we have ten? 587 00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:14,680 So, ten, the number ten signifies community... 588 00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:19,720 ..and the Orthodox tradition is a tradition of followers that we say 589 00:35:19,720 --> 00:35:24,040 that what was taught in the Torah was taught to us from Mt Sinai. 590 00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:26,480 And whatever was taught, don't change. 591 00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:30,800 In an Orthodox world, 592 00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:33,680 by and large, women can only be spectators. 593 00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:35,280 That is changing. 594 00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:41,320 There is a very large Orthodox feminist movement that is engaging 595 00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:43,040 with Torah learning. 596 00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:47,880 I was born into an Orthodox Jewish family, 597 00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:50,960 so I really don't have much choice. I'm a Jewish person. 598 00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:54,120 I just could not reconcile this question in 599 00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:57,520 the Orthodox tradition that women play no part in the service. 600 00:35:57,520 --> 00:36:00,560 And it seemed to me terribly, you know, sort of sexist 601 00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:02,560 and I didn't, I didn't like that. 602 00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:05,720 THEY CHANT IN HEBREW 603 00:36:05,720 --> 00:36:09,640 Part of the idea of why we have the men 604 00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:12,400 sort of in one area and the women in another area 605 00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:17,200 is so that, is not... It's just to keep distraction to a limit, right? 606 00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:22,680 You know, so it's not about one gender being, you know, 607 00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:24,480 lesser than another gender. 608 00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:27,880 I believe in equality. 609 00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:32,880 And yet every time I go into an Orthodox prayer service, 610 00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:37,560 I have to kind of put that aside in order to participate. 611 00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:42,240 We come from a background that says men and women can participate 612 00:36:42,240 --> 00:36:44,560 equally in leading a service... 613 00:36:45,720 --> 00:36:47,880 ..in reading the Torah. 614 00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:50,360 BOY CHANTS IN HEBREW 615 00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:59,600 You know, I think the pride I have in my son standing 616 00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:02,320 there and reading the Torah is that he can do it. 617 00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:04,640 Now, I don't know if he wants to go into the rabbinic, 618 00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:07,320 so I don't know if that's his... Maybe he's more into music. 619 00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:09,680 Might want to become a rock star. I don't know, maybe. 620 00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:11,680 CONTINUES CHANTING 621 00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:13,120 My dad makes me do it, actually. 622 00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:14,920 But no, it's fun. 623 00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:16,720 It's good. It's a good skill to have. 624 00:37:16,720 --> 00:37:19,280 And it gives you a sense of, of reward, 625 00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:21,560 being part of a community more. 626 00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:24,920 Being on the egalitarian part of the Jewish spectrum, 627 00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:28,240 for me, means being able to contribute to my community. 628 00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:46,400 My name is Ash. I live in Dundee. 629 00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:52,880 I'm a voice actor and an illustrator. 630 00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:57,720 I wasn't born into a Jewish family. 631 00:37:57,720 --> 00:38:00,040 I wasn't raised Jewish. 632 00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:03,200 I'm in the process of converting to Judaism. 633 00:38:05,240 --> 00:38:08,560 A few years ago, I started reaching out to synagogues in Scotland 634 00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:10,840 that I thought I might want to visit. 635 00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:16,560 I eventually found the Sukkat Shalom community in Edinburgh. 636 00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:19,520 I noticed that there were a bunch of people with pride flags, 637 00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:21,920 like badges on and things, so I was like, 638 00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:24,760 "Ah, right, this is a place where other queer people feel safe". 639 00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:27,480 And that was really, really important to me 640 00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:29,840 as a queer-trans person. 641 00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:32,360 SINGING IN HEBREW 642 00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:42,800 CONTINUES SINGING 643 00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:50,000 I mean, I've been in transition since 2013. 644 00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:54,120 It has been a bit like a second adolescence. 645 00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:56,920 I've been kind of joking about having a Bar Mitzvah at some 646 00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:59,680 point because I never, you know, got that, 647 00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:03,040 not, not being brought up Jewish and 648 00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:05,600 not knowing I was a boy at the time. 649 00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:15,200 For me, community and belonging is really, really important 650 00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:16,960 cos I didn't always have that. 651 00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:23,360 I grew up in a place where being different was not OK, 652 00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:25,360 like any kind of different. 653 00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:32,080 So for a queer neurodivergent kid, it was not a healthy place for me. 654 00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:37,480 So once I was in my 30s, I, and kind of living independently, 655 00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:40,000 I sort of realised that that had been holding me back my whole 656 00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:41,960 life and I didn't really know who I was. 657 00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:51,360 We're at Tentsmuir Beach. 658 00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:57,080 It's a place that I've always associated 659 00:39:57,080 --> 00:39:59,000 with peacefulness and reflection. 660 00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:02,920 I don't know any other Jewish people in Dundee, so I had to do a lot 661 00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:07,360 of things to do with festivals or to do with ritual observance on my own. 662 00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:10,040 So I like to come here quite a lot now. 663 00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:16,880 It can be so hard to measure Jewishness. 664 00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:19,080 My perception of it certainly is 665 00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:22,000 it's kind of a sort of three-pillar system where there's, 666 00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:25,600 there's the ethnicity component, there's the cultural component 667 00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:29,600 and the religious component, and you can have any one of them 668 00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:31,000 and be Jewish. 669 00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:34,080 You don't need to have all of them, but you do need at least one. 670 00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:41,600 I feel very at peace when I'm with these people. 671 00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:46,000 So it's really, um... 672 00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:47,600 SNIFFLES 673 00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:48,640 Sorry. 674 00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:52,520 I already feel like I'm part of it. 675 00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:55,280 I felt like I was part of it from the first day I went. 676 00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:59,000 So for me, this is just kind of making it official. 677 00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:17,480 My name is Elisa. I grew up in Aberdeen. 678 00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:21,080 I live in Edinburgh and I'm a marketing executive. 679 00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:24,320 May I please have two flat lights? 680 00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:25,520 Course you can. Thank you. 681 00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:26,960 I roast it all myself. 682 00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:29,560 Hellishly strong and devilishly good. 683 00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:31,480 We'll see about that. 684 00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:35,880 Judaism in Scotland is a topic that is, by and large, completely 685 00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:37,680 untouched by Scottish education. 686 00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:40,320 I was the only Jewish person in my primary school. 687 00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:42,880 I was the only Jewish person in my secondary school. 688 00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:46,240 Which meant that when you know little about something, you stick 689 00:41:46,240 --> 00:41:49,120 to the stereotypes, because that's all you tend to know. 690 00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:53,400 And unfortunately, those were strong anti-Semitic tropes. 691 00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:58,600 In primary school, it manifested mostly in physical bullying. 692 00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:03,800 I wouldn't say that the kids knew exactly what they were talking 693 00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:07,760 about, but just regurgitating things maybe their parents have said 694 00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:09,520 or something they've read online. 695 00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:13,000 You know, "Hitler should have finished the job", 696 00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:16,080 which was, like, as a 13-year-old, 697 00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:18,480 quite nasty to hear and quite scary. 698 00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:23,120 That being said, being Jewish in Scotland, 699 00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:25,680 actually I'm met more with curiosity now, 700 00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:30,840 rather than immediate up-front anger or violence. 701 00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:34,240 Up until the 1500s, coffee was known as the Devil's Drink. 702 00:42:34,240 --> 00:42:35,600 Oh, no kidding? 703 00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:37,120 My God, every day's a school day. 704 00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:38,360 Thank you. 705 00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:44,920 My parents, whilst ethnically Jewish, aren't practising Jews. 706 00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:48,480 So as a child, I remember researching how religious women 707 00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:52,440 would wrap their hair in scarves, much to the horror of my mother. 708 00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:55,560 But I always felt this strong connection. 709 00:42:55,560 --> 00:43:00,000 So I'm beginning to delve further and further into Judaism. 710 00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:05,000 While I was at university, being surrounded by Jews my age 711 00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:07,200 was a complete revelation for me. 712 00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:11,880 So I choose to practise in a reform way. 713 00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:19,120 I go on my phone on a Friday and Saturday. 714 00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:21,720 I dress in jeans during the day. 715 00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:26,680 Some women feel comfortable covering their hair, 716 00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:27,920 and that's their choice. 717 00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:33,200 But I don't think I will ever reach the point of doing that myself. 718 00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:35,720 However, I guess it depends on who I marry. 719 00:43:35,720 --> 00:43:40,160 If they feel particularly strongly about, I would consider it. 720 00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:46,280 I think there is a great deal to learn from Ultra-Orthodox Jews, 721 00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:48,480 which is why I do go to Chabad, 722 00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:51,040 which is an Ultra-Orthodox synagogue. 723 00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:56,160 I think it is counterintuitive that, as a young person, 724 00:43:56,160 --> 00:44:00,120 I am drawn to that kind of orthodoxy. 725 00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:05,280 DIRECTOR: Arranged marriage. 726 00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:08,320 Is that something you would contemplate? 727 00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:09,920 Oh, yes. 728 00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:13,840 But I feel like in this day and age, it's... 729 00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:18,200 ..difficult to try and explain and to justify why 730 00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:21,960 you're considering it to, to non-Jewish people. 731 00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:25,680 But, yeah, a husband would be nice. 732 00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:26,880 Cut that out. 733 00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:28,080 Don't leave that in. 734 00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:29,760 SHE LAUGHS 735 00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:31,360 LAUGHTER DROWNS OUT DIRECTOR 736 00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:52,120 "Jacob Stein raised his arms to his side as if to weigh the worth 737 00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:53,880 "of what he was to say next. 738 00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:56,120 "'Justice and fair play. 739 00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:57,840 "'Never forget that, Avram. 740 00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:00,040 "'We Jews have been treated well here. 741 00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:03,160 "'In other countries, we were persecuted for our religion. 742 00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:04,360 "'In other countries, 743 00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:08,320 "'to be a Jew is to carry a death sentence over your head. 744 00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:11,920 "'And do you know why Scotland is such a fine place for us?' 745 00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:13,880 "'No, sir.' 746 00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:17,120 "'There is so much hatred between the Protestants and the Catholics, 747 00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:19,680 "'and when they are not hating each other, 748 00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:21,760 "'they combine to hate the English. 749 00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:24,600 "'Ha, what a wonderful city Glasgow is. 750 00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:27,840 "'No-one has any hatred left over for us Jews.'" 751 00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:31,920 All writers are writing about themselves. 752 00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:34,920 And I think for me, when I look back now, writing the Credit Draper, 753 00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:40,680 was the opportunity to write about my Scottish-Jewish identity. 754 00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:45,560 But what was interesting for me was that I expected 755 00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:49,240 there to be all kinds of conflict when this sort of, you know, 756 00:45:49,240 --> 00:45:53,280 these Jews would turn up in these villages and Scotland and so on. 757 00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:57,680 But I actually found that there was a lot in common between Scottish 758 00:45:57,680 --> 00:45:59,440 and Jewish cultures. 759 00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:02,920 The violin music, there would be the schnapps, the bran... 760 00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:05,240 You know, the little the whiskies and the brandies. 761 00:46:05,240 --> 00:46:09,800 There would be social values, I think, you know, 762 00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:13,880 respect for education and social justice, which I think are both part 763 00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:16,280 of the Jewish and Scottish culture. 764 00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:20,640 Growing up, for me, there was quite a divide between my Jewish life 765 00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:23,400 and my non-Jewish life. 766 00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:26,640 We used to come as a family to the synagogue here, 767 00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:28,080 Queen's Park Synagogue. 768 00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:30,960 And I think that walk sums it up for me. 769 00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:33,720 Here we were sort of all dressed up with, 770 00:46:33,720 --> 00:46:35,800 with these prayer shawl bags, 771 00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:39,120 with a star of David on it, kind of quite conspicuous walking, 772 00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:44,480 not walk of shame, but certainly a walk of shyness or embarrassment. 773 00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:50,040 I went to a cheder, the, you know, Jewish school, after school, 774 00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:52,560 three weekdays and on the Sunday. 775 00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:55,880 You know, learned Hebrew and studied the, you know, the Talmud. 776 00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:59,680 And I don't think my non-Jewish friends really had any idea 777 00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:02,240 what was going on with us after school. 778 00:47:02,240 --> 00:47:04,880 And we had our separate assemblies. 779 00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:07,760 The Jewish kids were, were siphoned off. 780 00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:10,880 And of course, we had different holidays as well 781 00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:15,480 when we would be off and it would be very conspicuous 782 00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:17,080 that we were different. 783 00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:24,680 Yeah, there's a definite feeling of being alien. 784 00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:33,680 Anti-Semitism is a form of racism directed against Jewish people, 785 00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:37,480 stereotyping Jews as having particular traits. 786 00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:43,040 There's a long history of conspiracy theories about Jewish control 787 00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:49,240 of the media or the banks, as well as religious persecution, I suppose. 788 00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:54,920 I grew up in Hungary where being Jewish was a problem. 789 00:47:56,120 --> 00:48:01,000 As a small child, I remember myself actually lying about it when people 790 00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:03,520 asked me because I was afraid. 791 00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:07,520 I've been frightened about being Jewish all my life, 792 00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:10,360 so it didn't just change all of a sudden. 793 00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:20,520 Because people feel vulnerable, they are less inclined to display 794 00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:23,880 open signs of Jewishness. 795 00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:28,360 My friend, who lived across the road, was not Jewish 796 00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:31,600 and she was a member of the local tennis club and I wanted to join 797 00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:33,720 and they would not let a Jewish child join. 798 00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:38,160 If you went through the Gorbals or places, you would see signs, 799 00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:40,720 you know, "No blacks, no Jews, no dogs". 800 00:48:40,720 --> 00:48:42,160 That's what it was. 801 00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:43,840 We have moved on a lot. 802 00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:50,560 In more recent times, it's much more focused on anti-Israeli 803 00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:53,440 sentiment and the way that the Israeli government behaves 804 00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:55,280 towards the Palestinians. 805 00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:58,560 There are political problems concerning Israel, 806 00:48:58,560 --> 00:49:01,480 and I have the same problems concerning Israel. 807 00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:07,120 But because I'm Jewish, the problems become my problems. 808 00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:35,360 Och, that's lovely. 809 00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:40,360 I'm looking at a film that was made of my mum and dad's wedding. 810 00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:42,720 They got married and Pollokshields Synagogue 811 00:49:42,720 --> 00:49:45,920 on the 22nd of March, 1949. 812 00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:47,760 Four coats. 813 00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:50,960 It's March the 22nd, they've all on their fur jackets. 814 00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:52,600 LAUGHS 815 00:49:52,600 --> 00:49:54,920 Och, there's my dad and grandma and grandpa. 816 00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:56,240 Och, that's lovely. 817 00:49:58,400 --> 00:49:59,600 Oh, that is fantastic. 818 00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:05,040 It's my mum under the chuppah, so a very traditional Jewish wedding. 819 00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:08,960 But then there was also a big working-class population 820 00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:11,440 and the weddings would not have been quite like that, 821 00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:13,040 not in Pollokshields Synagogue. 822 00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:16,360 They would have been in one of the shuls in the Gorbals at this time. 823 00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:18,800 Look at this line of cars. 824 00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:20,840 Absolutely fantastic. 825 00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:29,040 Ay, ay, ay! 826 00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:31,080 Ay, ay, ay! 827 00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:31,080 LAUGHS 828 00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:33,680 That's a very good question. 829 00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:35,680 What kind of a Jew am I? 830 00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:37,320 It's my being, isn't it, 831 00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:41,480 even though I'm not an actively religious, observant person? 832 00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:44,960 I still don't like the negative bits about it. 833 00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:48,560 And there are lots of negative bits about Jewish religious life 834 00:50:48,560 --> 00:50:49,920 and, and so on. 835 00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:54,880 I'm the youngest of three and we were absolutely brought up 836 00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:57,960 in a Jewish-Orthodox, Jewish environment. 837 00:50:57,960 --> 00:50:59,880 When I got to university, 838 00:50:59,880 --> 00:51:03,280 equal rights for women, equal pay for women. 839 00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:06,760 Women's right to choose was a very important campaign for me. 840 00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:10,280 I was quite aware that that did not sit comfortably 841 00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:12,320 with Orthodox Judaism. 842 00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:16,280 It's like, in a way, I decided to give up eating meat 843 00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:19,560 and the last thing I gave up was my mother's chicken soup. 844 00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:22,640 It was quite a thing to go home and say, 845 00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:24,800 "I'm not going to eat your chicken soup". 846 00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:27,240 So you're kind of living a parallel life in a way. 847 00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:31,840 But I do like tradition. 848 00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:44,920 My mum and my dad. 849 00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:50,040 I tend to come before Yom Kippur, the Day of Atonement, 850 00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:53,280 and just pay my respects, talk to them, 851 00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:56,080 bring them up to date with the news. 852 00:51:56,080 --> 00:51:58,600 SHE LAUGHS 853 00:51:58,600 --> 00:52:01,760 The question of the Jewish way of death. 854 00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:05,880 The tradition is, in the Orthodox, is that it's burial 855 00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:08,320 and it should happen as quick as possible. 856 00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:12,080 I mean, when my mother passed away, she died in the morning. 857 00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:15,280 We buried her in the afternoon, which might seem shocking. 858 00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:18,360 After somebody has died, 859 00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:21,760 there's a period of a week where, of shiva, 860 00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:24,200 where you're in deep mourning, 861 00:52:24,200 --> 00:52:28,440 and you will remember the person who's gone and stories 862 00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:31,280 and people will come and give their condolences and so on. 863 00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:36,160 And it's an incredibly nurturing and supportive kind of period. 864 00:52:36,160 --> 00:52:38,280 When it comes to the bit, 865 00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:40,640 I'm, I'm a member of the Burial Society. 866 00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:43,760 I want to be buried in that graveyard. 867 00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:46,800 It's not the most pretty one in the world, but that's the one. 868 00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:51,200 Yes, I pay my dues so I'm going to end up here. 869 00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:53,200 SHE LAUGHS 870 00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:55,840 We joke about all the characters. 871 00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:57,560 I mean, I obviously don't know, 872 00:52:57,560 --> 00:52:59,400 there are so many people buried here. 873 00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:02,760 So I kind of have this vision of this underlife 874 00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:05,120 that's going on, or upperlife, 875 00:53:05,120 --> 00:53:07,360 but I think of an underlife that's going on. 876 00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:12,360 But how does one make sense of, of death? 877 00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:14,560 It's part of what happens in life. 878 00:53:14,560 --> 00:53:17,000 And... But it's not, it's not easy. 879 00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:46,920 I am here today to go to the mikvah, 880 00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:51,520 the next stage in my conversion process. 881 00:53:51,520 --> 00:53:55,280 I always sort of gravitate towards the really colourful ones. 882 00:53:55,280 --> 00:53:57,080 I'm really excited. 883 00:53:57,080 --> 00:54:02,320 This has been a two-and-a-bit-year process of kind of actively working 884 00:54:02,320 --> 00:54:04,280 towards this moment. 885 00:54:09,640 --> 00:54:14,000 You can do this in a kind of have natural free-flowing body of water. 886 00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:16,840 But in Scotland that's not ideal. 887 00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:21,880 I thought about going to Tentsmuir for it and I think if I'd been doing 888 00:54:21,880 --> 00:54:25,040 this in July, that might have swung it. 889 00:54:25,040 --> 00:54:26,840 But in March, no. 890 00:54:29,520 --> 00:54:32,720 I think I joked once about it being putting a Jewish coating on me. 891 00:54:32,720 --> 00:54:35,080 Symbolically, that's kind of what it's about, 892 00:54:35,080 --> 00:54:38,040 is because the water has to touch every part of you. 893 00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:44,840 I mean, I think I see a lot of parallels between my Jewish 894 00:54:44,840 --> 00:54:47,200 journey and my trans journey. 895 00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:51,680 They are both kind of transitions that have taken a lot of time, 896 00:54:51,680 --> 00:54:55,680 but have also been essentially just confirming 897 00:54:55,680 --> 00:54:57,960 what has always been there. 898 00:54:59,560 --> 00:55:02,760 Mazel tov. Mazel tov. 899 00:55:02,760 --> 00:55:04,400 Thank you so much. 900 00:55:15,680 --> 00:55:18,400 Why am I extra happy today? 901 00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:20,000 Why am I extra happy? 902 00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:21,400 Oh, it's... 903 00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:22,880 I forgot... 904 00:55:22,880 --> 00:55:25,400 THEY SING 905 00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:27,880 Do I consider myself Jewish and Scottish? 906 00:55:27,880 --> 00:55:29,760 Yeah. 907 00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:33,920 That is the Jewish story of being everywhere and anywhere. 908 00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:36,360 There's no conflict... Exactly, yeah. 909 00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:39,080 ..being Scottish and Jewish, that's absolutely fine. 910 00:55:39,080 --> 00:55:42,960 The beauty of being Jewish is that you could be Jewish anywhere. 911 00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:49,040 Growing up, I lived in a tenement in Pollokshields and we were only 912 00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:53,040 half a block away from a kosher grocer. 913 00:55:53,040 --> 00:55:57,640 There were Hebrew classes after school in the local state school. 914 00:55:57,640 --> 00:56:01,200 So in that sense, we felt at home. 915 00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:06,800 You know, I think Scotland is pretty welcoming. 916 00:56:06,800 --> 00:56:08,720 We were exactly the same. 917 00:56:08,720 --> 00:56:12,040 Don't forget that. We were asylum seekers and economic migrants. 918 00:56:12,040 --> 00:56:13,480 That's who we were. 919 00:56:13,480 --> 00:56:16,360 Being Jewish means being part of a conversation 920 00:56:16,360 --> 00:56:18,920 that goes on over centuries. 921 00:56:18,920 --> 00:56:23,640 This is a tradition that is 3,000 years old and we carry with us 922 00:56:23,640 --> 00:56:25,520 all of that evolution. 923 00:56:26,640 --> 00:56:29,120 Well, hopefully, while there's a community in Glasgow, 924 00:56:29,120 --> 00:56:31,400 there will always be a kosher deli. 925 00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:36,400 No two ladies buy the same chicken stock for making their chicken soup, 926 00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:38,360 and they'll make the best chicken soup as well. 927 00:56:38,360 --> 00:56:40,640 There is a very particular kind of Jewish humour, 928 00:56:40,640 --> 00:56:44,400 finding things to laugh about when things are really dark. 929 00:56:44,400 --> 00:56:47,760 And I can very much see why that's a really important part 930 00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:49,840 of the Jewish character. 931 00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:54,120 I'm immensely glad that my family washed up into Glasgow 932 00:56:54,120 --> 00:56:57,240 and allowed us to have peaceful lives. 933 00:56:58,360 --> 00:57:01,440 I was a happy child and I'm a happy adult 934 00:57:01,440 --> 00:57:03,680 and I'm a happy old person. 935 00:57:03,680 --> 00:57:05,680 I'm very lucky. 936 00:57:05,680 --> 00:57:09,680 I'm slowly learning about where my boundaries are with the religion, 937 00:57:09,680 --> 00:57:11,320 but I bake really good bread, 938 00:57:11,320 --> 00:57:13,480 so maybe that will be my redeeming factor. 939 00:57:13,480 --> 00:57:15,120 SHE LAUGHS 940 00:57:15,120 --> 00:57:17,120 INDISTINCT 941 00:57:17,120 --> 00:57:19,640 My sisters always come here and when they eat the challah 942 00:57:19,640 --> 00:57:22,240 that my mum makes, they just give, like, the sigh of, like, 943 00:57:22,240 --> 00:57:23,960 ah, it's like it's home. 944 00:57:23,960 --> 00:57:26,920 It tastes like home, it tastes like our home. 945 00:57:30,320 --> 00:57:32,720 MAN SINGS IN HEBREW 122833

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