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We would like to look
through the anomaly
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at an astronomical object
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over the triangle
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and see if they seem obscured.
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The object I just slewed
to a little while ago
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is now no longer
in the database.
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Erik, the cattle have scattered
through the entire field.
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Something's definitely scared them.
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What the hell is
that in the sky?
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That thing is big and spherical.
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Yes, it is. It's got a black
dot in the center of it.
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There's something that
I'd like to get your eyes on.
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- There. There.
- Oh, what was that?
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That's the brightest
thing in the sky!
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There is
a ranch in Northern Utah.
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It is considered the epicenter
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of the strangest and most
disturbing phenomena on Earth:
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animal mutilations,
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bizarre UFO sightings
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and unusual energies that
have proven harmful to humans.
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For 20 years, the
federal government
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tried to find
answers and failed.
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Now a new team of
dedicated scientists,
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researchers and
experts has taken over.
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They are determined to
solve the mystery and reveal...
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The Secret of Skinwalker Ranch.
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So, Kaleb just came in
after being out on patrol
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and mentioned that it looks like
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we have a downed cow
out here in the field, so,
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Kaleb, Thomas, myself...
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We're gonna go check it out.
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Oh, man, she doesn't
look good, does she?
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Yeah, she's not
doing well... at all.
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Boy, her eyes
don't look good, either.
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Yeah, she doesn't
look very healthy at all.
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Hey. Oh, you're good.
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You're good.
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Oh, come on up, girl.
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Get up. Come on.
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How many years did we go
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without any cattle having
any issues whatsoever,
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and now we're drilling,
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we're doing all kinds of
stuff, and all of a sudden,
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two out of three years, we've
got cows that are in bad shape?
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- How's it going?
- Good. How are you, Donavon?
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- Good.
- Good to see you.
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Good to see you, too.
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Morning, Richard.
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- Hey, Tommy.
- How are you?
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Good. How are you?
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Oh, doing pretty good.
Good to see you out.
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Yeah, good to be out.
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So, uh, we got this cow
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that's down here that
we called you about.
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There's one cow now
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that's starting to
separate herself
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from the group, and
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appears to be struggling.
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My first thought is to
always notify the rancher.
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These animals
don't belong to us.
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512 acres is a lot of
ground to maintain,
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and we bring the cows on
to help keep the grass down.
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You know, I don't... I don't
know what the deal is with her,
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or what her problem
is, but hopefully,
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you can look at her and
figure out what's going on.
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- Well, let's go see what she's doing.
- Okay.
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It's not that mysterious
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for a cow to get
sick on a ranch,
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but there were several odd
coincidences about this cow
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that Thomas, Dragon and
Kaleb found acting bizarre
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out in the south field.
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One... this happened
only a couple nights
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after our telescope
and rocket experiment
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where two different
UAPs appeared in the sky.
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I am getting
something on the 1.6.
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Two... those UAPs appeared
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just after Erik detected
another dangerous
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RF radiation reading
of 1.6 gigahertz,
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and the cows got all spooked
and started running around.
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Erik, the cows have
pushed in on us.
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And three...
This cow is acting strange
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in the exact same location
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where a cow actually
died two years ago
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just as a UAP appeared
in the sky above it.
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This herd seems pretty docile.
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Do you ever see
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aggression out of cows
anywhere other than here?
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Well, what seems weird to me
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is when you have one
cow out of the whole herd
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that starts going mental.
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And I've never had that
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- on our ranch.
- Hmm.
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- Only here?
- Only here.
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- Wow.
- Interesting.
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That's very interesting.
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Just as we have many
scientific instruments,
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sensors and cameras
deployed across the ranch,
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we also speak of
the animals here
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as bio sensors.
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And it's natural
for us to wonder
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whether there might be something
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connected to our
recent experiment.
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Well, see, there's, uh...
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Yeah, she's starting to move.
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Get up, get
up. There. Good deal.
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It's weird. It looks like
she's trying to move all...
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She's gonna go down, Donavon.
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You got to get in front of her.
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Wow.
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- She's down, she's down.
- Yeah. - She might be...
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- Yup. See, now she starts...
- Yes.
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- Getting aggressive right there. Shh. Shh.
- Yeah.
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- Shh.
- She's got a gaze on us.
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Dad, I got her, I
got her. Get back!
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- He's on her.
- Get back! Get back!
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Luca, back.
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Come on.
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Ah.
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Let her... let her lay down.
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- She's really in distress.
- Yeah.
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What I think we'll
do, Tommy, is take her home,
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and see if she acts
any different at home.
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She's totally agitated.
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I think there's something
going on. I don't know what it is.
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I don't like thinking about it,
I don't want to be around it.
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It's a mystery.
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Sorry this happened.
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We appreciate you coming and
bringing your animals out here.
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Hopefully, this doesn't sour
you on the place too much.
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Well, we'll see.
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After Erik and
I heard about the cow,
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we decided it was
time to reach back out
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to someone who
we know was not only
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a former investigator
on the ranch,
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but also had his own experiences
with bizarre cattle incidents...
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Retired Army Colonel
John Alexander.
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- Thanks for coming out. We appreciate it.
- Okay.
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Colonel
Alexander was a key member
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of billionaire Robert
Bigelow's team,
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who studied phenomena
on the ranch for two decades,
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starting back in 1996.
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Hey, guys. You remember
Colonel Alexander?
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So, given everything
we've been experiencing
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recently at the triangle,
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which now seems to be
affecting the cattle, as well,
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we were grateful that
he agreed to come back
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and share information that
could help our investigation.
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So, is this the first time
you've been back to the ranch
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since the Bigelow era?
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Been a couple decades.
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- Wow.
- Looks a little different.
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The topography looks
the same. The rest of it
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has kind of, uh... has
been updated quite a bit.
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I was a colonel in the Army,
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I was in special operations,
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and finally, as director of
advanced system concepts.
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The second career was Los
Alamos National Laboratory,
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where we did all the
non-lethal weapons concepts.
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I had just left Los
Alamos, and in mid '95,
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Bob Bigelow decided
to create NIDS...
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National Institute for
Discovery Science...
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And I was the first
NIDS employee.
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NIDS was formed for the
purpose of looking at UFOs.
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Skinwalker presented
that and so much more.
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We would like to see
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if you have some insight
from your past here
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that might spur us into
some other experiments
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that we might like to do.
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So, during the time
that you guys were here,
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can you, uh, think of a specific
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event that was the most
disturbing or impactful?
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Especially something, like, with a cow?
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I wouldn't know where
to begin with that one.
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Um, when NIDS was
created in mid '95,
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Terry Sherman was
prepared to sell the ranch,
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and so, Bob Bigelow
made him an offer.
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- After he s... bought the ranch...
- So he stayed on
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- as the ranch manager?
- He-he stayed on
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as the ranch manager.
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So it was calving
season. Terry went out,
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found a newborn,
tag it and weighed it.
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Drives across, as you
know, perfectly open field,
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finds another newborn, tags
it and weighs it, comes back.
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And the mother's going
berserk, and calf one is dead.
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Not only is it dead, but
there's about 40 pounds
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of stuff is missing.
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It's eviscerated, exsanguinated,
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ear had been sliced off.
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Hearing the
strange details of this calf
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being mutilated in broad
daylight reminds me again
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of the cow that died after
we first stimulated UAPs
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to appear above the
triangle two years ago.
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What in the world?
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Tom Winterton found
the cow right after it died,
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and alerted us to
go investigate it.
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The meter's just going crazy.
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Almost immediately, we
began detecting high readings
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of RF radiation with
our TriField meters,
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so we got out of there.
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What we'll do is go
forward very slowly.
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But then, we
reviewed the surveillance footage
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that captured the
moment of the cow's death
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and saw a UAP in
the sky right above it.
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Since that day, we've wondered
if we might have stopped
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a mutilation from happening.
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But it's also very curious
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that both the Bigelow
team and our team
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had cows die under very
inexplicable circumstances
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right after we first began
investigating phenomena
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on Skinwalker Ranch.
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It made me wonder
what other similarities
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we've both experienced.
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What's really interesting is, a
lot of times when we do have
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these anomalies, we are
detecting a strange signal
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that we can't identify at
1.6 something gigahertz.
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- Okay.
- And, so,
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I guess the question
we would have is,
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during the time that
you guys were here,
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did you record or see things
that looked like this signal
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at 1.6 gigahertz?
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Well, as you know, I've dealt
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with the UFO
phenomena quite a bit,
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and-and that is one of
the perplexing aspects,
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is things like these
sort of signals.
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And these things occur
in many, many areas,
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and why is it that we see
things that shouldn't be there,
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and don't see things
that we should see?
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- Yup.
- For instance, we would set up cameras, and say,
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"Okay, we're gonna...
If it's happening here,
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we're gonna watch
in that location,"
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but you get nothing,
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and things would
happen off camera.
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Sometimes the
most important data
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are the ones we can't collect.
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The fact that something
is interfering, which is
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- very often the case here.
- Right.
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So, the other thing
I wanted to ask you is,
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we've heard about
opening portals.
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Uh, what can you
tell us about those?
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The closest to
what you're asking
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is the incident out at...
near the second homestead.
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You know, something
moving through
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the Russian olives out there,
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through the trees.
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We were aware of
kind of a slight distortion.
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You didn't see a thing; it was
more of distortions moving.
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After their investigation ended,
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the NIDS team put forth the idea
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that a portal connected
to another dimension
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causes the phenomena
that happened on the ranch.
251
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I don't know if that
could really explain
252
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what's happened
during our experiments,
253
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but we've seen some crazy
stuff at Homestead Two as well.
254
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Last year, we used
thermal imaging
255
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at night to capture a
circular temperature vortex
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that was at least
20 degrees colder
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than any of its surroundings.
258
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Oh, whoa.
259
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And when we reviewed our
footage, we saw something
260
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moving erratically in
front of the homestead.
261
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Now, I'm still not ready to say
a portal or a wormhole exists
262
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on Skinwalker Ranch,
but it is amazing
263
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that other researchers
264
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and scientists
believe that it could.
265
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So what I'm taking from this
is that there is a long history
266
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of unusual phenomena
without an identifiable source
267
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in this basin.
268
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And I'm learning that there
were no answers produced
269
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as a result of the
previous research here.
270
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- That's kind of surprising.
- Right.
271
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Because that burden
that we're bearing today is
272
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that our own conclusions
don't make sense to us yet.
273
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It's been a frustration,
almost become a joke.
274
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Yes, but I think you're
operating under the illusion
275
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that you're in control.
276
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You're not in control.
277
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There's an "it"
that's in control.
278
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Whatever "it" was seemed to
know how we would respond
279
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before the event even occurred.
280
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It was not responding
281
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in a way that we
would anticipate.
282
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And every time you
tried to anticipate,
283
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it would just morph to
something a little bit different.
284
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Like I say, you
like that? Try this.
285
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I'm really interested in how
you arrived at that impression,
286
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that overall assessment
of what was going on here,
287
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from having experiments
not go as you planned
288
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to there being an "it."
289
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When a physical
event had occurred,
290
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something would happen.
291
00:13:18,082 --> 00:13:20,250
Theoretically, can some
of these happen, yes,
292
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but when you
look at it practically,
293
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it just makes no sense at all.
294
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It was when "it" decided
295
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to present us with something
that the events occurred.
296
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We inherited this narrative
297
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that it's dangerous
to dig on the ranch.
298
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My question to you is,
299
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are you aware of any
exercises during the Bigelow era
300
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where they may have
done experiments
301
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that included
digging and watching?
302
00:13:47,375 --> 00:13:49,167
I'm familiar with that.
303
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The digging
304
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was to see if some sort
305
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of phenomena
would manifest itself.
306
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If we can do something
that will cause a response.
307
00:14:01,957 --> 00:14:04,832
And sometimes incidents happen.
308
00:14:04,917 --> 00:14:07,542
While we've got you here,
309
00:14:07,667 --> 00:14:09,000
we could take you around
310
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and show you some
places on the ranch.
311
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- You show us where you think things happened.
- Well, yeah,
312
00:14:13,125 --> 00:14:16,042
well, one of my areas
of interest is revisiting
313
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- where some of these events took place at.
- That would be great
314
00:14:18,207 --> 00:14:19,768
- for you to tell us that.
- That'd be helpful to us.
315
00:14:19,792 --> 00:14:21,018
- Yeah, that'd be very helpful.
- So, uh,
316
00:14:21,042 --> 00:14:23,207
with that in mind, I
think we should load up
317
00:14:23,332 --> 00:14:24,332
and head out.
318
00:14:27,207 --> 00:14:29,375
- This particular area is...
- This is the triangle?
319
00:14:29,500 --> 00:14:31,375
- Yeah, it's been...
- The infamous triangle.
320
00:14:33,417 --> 00:14:35,332
I'll tell you, it's really more
321
00:14:35,457 --> 00:14:39,125
about phenomena in the sky
above the triangle than actually
322
00:14:39,250 --> 00:14:41,707
- on the triangle.
- Oh, yeah.
323
00:14:41,832 --> 00:14:44,153
Colonel Alexander
told us a lot of different stories
324
00:14:44,207 --> 00:14:46,875
about phenomena they had
seen back in the Bigelow era.
325
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So, what we thought
was, him showing us
326
00:14:49,625 --> 00:14:52,375
where these things happened
might give us some insight
327
00:14:52,500 --> 00:14:54,259
of where we might want
to do some experiments
328
00:14:54,332 --> 00:14:57,332
to reproduce it and
maybe capture some data.
329
00:14:57,500 --> 00:15:01,167
- This place look familiar to you, John?
- Oh, yes.
330
00:15:01,250 --> 00:15:03,957
The story that sticks with me is
331
00:15:04,042 --> 00:15:07,832
your account of the
portal opening up.
332
00:15:07,957 --> 00:15:10,875
Oh, yes. Well, it was
a little bit farther up.
333
00:15:14,292 --> 00:15:16,667
Back in the NIDS
days, multiple eyewitnesses
334
00:15:16,792 --> 00:15:18,500
have written about
these phenomena.
335
00:15:18,625 --> 00:15:20,667
Maybe there is some connection
336
00:15:20,792 --> 00:15:23,082
with whatever these
phenomena are,
337
00:15:23,207 --> 00:15:25,875
what they've seen in the past,
and what we're seeing today.
338
00:15:28,792 --> 00:15:30,707
It was around this
corner right here
339
00:15:30,832 --> 00:15:33,500
where we had the
radiation spikes.
340
00:15:33,625 --> 00:15:35,167
Uh, near this cistern.
341
00:15:35,250 --> 00:15:37,957
Well, that's interesting because
this is one of the few areas
342
00:15:38,082 --> 00:15:40,582
I have some old pictures from.
343
00:15:40,707 --> 00:15:43,042
Y'all measured for gamma
rays and stuff like that?
344
00:15:43,167 --> 00:15:45,332
Yeah, what... They
used the TriField meters
345
00:15:45,417 --> 00:15:48,917
- and whatnot, but, uh...
- You know why this is open?
346
00:15:49,042 --> 00:15:50,350
Do you know why that's open?
347
00:15:50,375 --> 00:15:52,457
I don't know why
that's open, either.
348
00:15:54,542 --> 00:15:57,707
- I wonder who opened it up.
- Uh...
349
00:15:57,832 --> 00:15:59,975
'Cause I don't... Someone's
been here and opened this up.
350
00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:02,875
It's always closed.
351
00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:05,832
It usually is closed because
we don't want anyone
352
00:16:05,917 --> 00:16:07,167
or anything falling in there.
353
00:16:07,292 --> 00:16:10,332
Yeah, somebody's opened this up.
354
00:16:13,375 --> 00:16:16,332
Two years ago, I
was exposed to dangerous levels
355
00:16:16,457 --> 00:16:19,292
of ionizing radiation coming
directly from this cistern
356
00:16:19,417 --> 00:16:22,707
that left burns on
my hand and face.
357
00:16:22,832 --> 00:16:26,082
Ever since then, we've
had radiation sensors placed
358
00:16:26,207 --> 00:16:28,707
all around the
ranch just to be safe.
359
00:16:28,832 --> 00:16:31,792
And seeing the lid off this
cistern is not just curious.
360
00:16:31,917 --> 00:16:33,707
It's concerning.
361
00:16:33,832 --> 00:16:35,582
- I don't know why...
- That...
362
00:16:35,707 --> 00:16:36,988
It's heavy, too.
It ain't just...
363
00:16:37,082 --> 00:16:38,322
- It is.
- Yeah.
364
00:16:38,375 --> 00:16:40,042
You got it, Tom?
365
00:16:40,207 --> 00:16:41,917
Why is that open?
366
00:16:42,042 --> 00:16:43,832
Somebody opened it.
367
00:16:43,917 --> 00:16:47,000
I'm just trying to
figure out who.
368
00:16:47,125 --> 00:16:49,167
We need to get to
the bottom of that.
369
00:16:49,250 --> 00:16:51,082
Did y'all have weird
stuff like that happen?
370
00:16:51,207 --> 00:16:53,875
You know, things
being one orientation,
371
00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:55,417
and you come
back, and it's moved?
372
00:16:55,542 --> 00:16:59,167
Yeah, but it's... The
problem was like this...
373
00:16:59,292 --> 00:17:01,125
You notice it after the fact.
374
00:17:03,457 --> 00:17:05,665
So, where do you
think the, uh, portal was?
375
00:17:05,790 --> 00:17:07,892
- From... out in the field. Yeah.
- Oh, from out there?
376
00:17:07,915 --> 00:17:09,355
Oh, show us... show
us where that is.
377
00:17:11,125 --> 00:17:15,375
Yeah, out in this general area.
378
00:17:15,500 --> 00:17:19,000
And it's sort of moving
through the treetops here.
379
00:17:19,125 --> 00:17:21,415
Again, it was
more of a distortion.
380
00:17:22,583 --> 00:17:26,250
This was early evening.
Our guys were down there,
381
00:17:26,375 --> 00:17:28,125
and it was kind
of a disturbance.
382
00:17:28,208 --> 00:17:29,958
You didn't actually see a thing.
383
00:17:30,041 --> 00:17:31,625
It was more of
distortions moving.
384
00:17:31,708 --> 00:17:34,333
Just so I'm
clear, it was almost like
385
00:17:34,416 --> 00:17:36,875
- the cloaked movement...
- Yeah, like something moving
386
00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:38,183
- through the treetops.
- Okay.
387
00:17:38,208 --> 00:17:39,518
- A disturbance...
- Mm-hmm.
388
00:17:39,541 --> 00:17:42,416
In the visual spectrum
as it goes across.
389
00:17:44,583 --> 00:17:46,308
They only were able to
see it through the night vision
390
00:17:46,333 --> 00:17:47,583
cameras? Is that correct?
391
00:17:47,708 --> 00:17:50,458
- Yeah.
- Okay.
392
00:17:50,583 --> 00:17:51,916
- Okay.
- Well.
393
00:17:52,041 --> 00:17:54,291
So, why don't we head that way?
394
00:17:54,375 --> 00:17:57,041
Let's go up through here
so we can avoid the water.
395
00:17:57,166 --> 00:17:59,500
Okay, you lead the way, Thomas.
396
00:17:59,583 --> 00:18:02,666
It's a good thing to reach out
to people that have been here
397
00:18:02,791 --> 00:18:04,518
and other research efforts
to understand this place.
398
00:18:04,541 --> 00:18:07,583
This is a strange place.
Weird things happen.
399
00:18:07,708 --> 00:18:11,416
Anybody that has any insight...
That's gonna be useful data.
400
00:18:12,500 --> 00:18:14,875
The caretakers
that were here after,
401
00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:18,000
uh, the Shermans
left, had indicated that
402
00:18:18,125 --> 00:18:21,166
Bigelow's team... They
actually used a bulldozer,
403
00:18:21,291 --> 00:18:23,750
and done some
trenches here in this field.
404
00:18:23,875 --> 00:18:25,666
It was more a disturbance.
405
00:18:25,750 --> 00:18:29,916
The intent was not to
dig, per se. It was just,
406
00:18:30,041 --> 00:18:32,375
we'll screw with
things and see if...
407
00:18:32,500 --> 00:18:35,083
- See if you could stimulate it?
- Oh, yeah.
408
00:18:35,208 --> 00:18:36,625
To quote Travis,
they were trying
409
00:18:36,708 --> 00:18:38,000
to poke the hornet's nest?
410
00:18:38,125 --> 00:18:39,416
- Yeah.
- I see.
411
00:18:39,541 --> 00:18:41,250
Do you know, did they ever feel
412
00:18:41,375 --> 00:18:44,541
like they got a response
from any of that?
413
00:18:44,666 --> 00:18:48,291
Yeah. Well, we just discussed
the one with the portal.
414
00:18:48,375 --> 00:18:51,833
- Yeah.
- You get something like that...
415
00:18:51,916 --> 00:18:53,458
- Sure.
- It wasn't like we tried
416
00:18:53,541 --> 00:18:56,166
to orchestrate the response.
417
00:18:56,250 --> 00:18:58,125
It was, do we get a response?
418
00:18:58,250 --> 00:19:00,208
- What does that look like?
- Okay.
419
00:19:00,375 --> 00:19:02,666
- Yeah.
- Listening to you talk about it, you know, I...
420
00:19:02,791 --> 00:19:04,500
in the back of my mind I say,
421
00:19:04,625 --> 00:19:07,208
"Well, if Bigelow's
team dug there once,
422
00:19:07,333 --> 00:19:09,625
"I want to go dig
there again and see
423
00:19:09,708 --> 00:19:12,083
- "if strange things happen."
- Right.
424
00:19:12,208 --> 00:19:14,166
We dig again to
see if it's repeatable.
425
00:19:14,250 --> 00:19:15,916
- Yup.
- And so, do you reckon
426
00:19:16,041 --> 00:19:18,125
that if we were to
come in and dig again,
427
00:19:18,208 --> 00:19:19,958
we would get a response?
428
00:19:20,083 --> 00:19:23,458
Um... don't know.
429
00:19:23,541 --> 00:19:25,541
Where you dig
makes a difference.
430
00:19:27,041 --> 00:19:29,333
Well, we find
support for the idea that when
431
00:19:29,458 --> 00:19:33,666
we do things, we do see what
we interpret as a response.
432
00:19:33,791 --> 00:19:36,101
- Right.
- And so, that's what we're weighing out right now.
433
00:19:36,125 --> 00:19:37,666
How do we proceed with that?
434
00:19:37,791 --> 00:19:39,833
Well, while we've been
standing here talking,
435
00:19:39,958 --> 00:19:42,041
I've been scanning
over this field.
436
00:19:42,208 --> 00:19:43,847
- Mm-hmm.
- You know, for it being a level
437
00:19:43,958 --> 00:19:47,916
field, I see a pretty good
bulldozer-width indentation
438
00:19:48,041 --> 00:19:50,000
right here between
these two trees.
439
00:19:50,125 --> 00:19:51,666
- Oh, yeah.
- I think
440
00:19:51,791 --> 00:19:54,500
that that would be a great
spot to come in and dig again.
441
00:19:54,625 --> 00:19:56,500
Oh, that would
be a real good idea.
442
00:19:56,625 --> 00:19:58,833
- Then see what happens with the front.
- Yeah.
443
00:19:58,916 --> 00:20:02,125
Well, John, thank you so
much for coming out here.
444
00:20:02,208 --> 00:20:04,875
I know we're losing daylight, so
we want to get you back safely,
445
00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:06,893
- so, if we pile in and head out?
- Whenever you're ready, so...
446
00:20:06,916 --> 00:20:08,433
- Yeah, let's head back.
- Okay, thank you. - Yeah.
447
00:20:08,458 --> 00:20:10,166
Colonel Alexander
448
00:20:10,250 --> 00:20:11,833
and the previous team
witnessed so many
449
00:20:11,958 --> 00:20:13,666
stunning events that really
450
00:20:13,791 --> 00:20:16,666
laid the foundation
for the research
451
00:20:16,791 --> 00:20:19,875
that we took forward
to present day.
452
00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:23,416
The information and insight
that he had shared with the team
453
00:20:23,541 --> 00:20:25,666
helped shape the nature
of our investigation.
454
00:20:25,791 --> 00:20:28,333
Well, we all got
quite a bit on our plates.
455
00:20:35,791 --> 00:20:38,375
After Colonel
John Alexander told us
456
00:20:38,500 --> 00:20:41,166
that the NIDS team dug
near Homestead Two,
457
00:20:41,291 --> 00:20:43,166
and stimulated
what they believed
458
00:20:43,250 --> 00:20:45,458
to be portal activity
on the ranch,
459
00:20:45,541 --> 00:20:47,375
Thomas rented an
industrial-sized bulldozer
460
00:20:47,541 --> 00:20:49,666
so we could dig in
that exact same area
461
00:20:49,833 --> 00:20:51,166
to see what might happen.
462
00:20:51,250 --> 00:20:53,750
Oh, here he comes.
463
00:20:54,875 --> 00:20:56,018
- What's up, Thomas?
- How was... how was
464
00:20:56,041 --> 00:20:57,291
your sports car ride over here?
465
00:20:57,375 --> 00:20:58,694
- Rough.
- Yeah, I'll bet.
466
00:20:58,833 --> 00:21:00,500
I'll bet it was.
467
00:21:00,625 --> 00:21:03,083
So I'm thinking we just go
down, what, four or five feet?
468
00:21:03,208 --> 00:21:05,308
That makes sense. The height
of the blade or something, right?
469
00:21:05,333 --> 00:21:07,101
- Or until we hit water, I guess.
- Yeah, yeah.
470
00:21:07,125 --> 00:21:08,333
I don't want to bury that.
471
00:21:08,416 --> 00:21:11,541
So you maybe take
about a-a foot off first,
472
00:21:11,666 --> 00:21:14,083
and we can look at it, and
then, take another couple of feet.
473
00:21:14,208 --> 00:21:15,851
- Oh, yeah.
- Then maybe get down to where...
474
00:21:15,875 --> 00:21:17,683
- Maybe something like that?
- Yeah, that sounds good.
475
00:21:17,708 --> 00:21:20,166
Well, it goes without saying,
476
00:21:20,291 --> 00:21:22,000
we need to just keep
an eye on ourselves.
477
00:21:22,125 --> 00:21:24,000
If you start feeling
anything funny,
478
00:21:24,125 --> 00:21:26,500
obviously, let
somebody know, because
479
00:21:26,583 --> 00:21:29,208
when you dig, bad stuff
actually does happens.
480
00:21:29,333 --> 00:21:31,500
Yeah, so if you guys see
481
00:21:31,625 --> 00:21:33,518
- anything start to elevate, let me know...
- Yeah.
482
00:21:33,541 --> 00:21:34,683
- And I'm gonna shut her down.
- I'm gonna sit here and watch.
483
00:21:34,708 --> 00:21:36,228
I'm gonna sit here
and watch constantly
484
00:21:36,333 --> 00:21:37,851
while you're doing it.
I'm not gonna let you
485
00:21:37,875 --> 00:21:39,768
be out here digging
without this... without one us
486
00:21:39,791 --> 00:21:41,183
- being out here with a Geiger counter.
- Yeah.
487
00:21:41,208 --> 00:21:42,125
- Yeah. What are you reading?
- Right now,
488
00:21:42,208 --> 00:21:43,375
we're at normal background.
489
00:21:43,541 --> 00:21:45,833
- 12. Yeah.
- 12 micro?
490
00:21:45,916 --> 00:21:48,208
As a precaution
for this experiment, Erik had
491
00:21:48,375 --> 00:21:50,000
the spectrum analyzer
scanning the area
492
00:21:50,166 --> 00:21:52,750
for the 1.6 gigahertz RF signal,
493
00:21:52,875 --> 00:21:56,375
and we both also had
Geiger counter devices
494
00:21:56,541 --> 00:21:59,083
to look out for harmful
spikes in gamma radiation.
495
00:21:59,208 --> 00:22:00,916
When we dug last
year in the south field
496
00:22:01,041 --> 00:22:02,833
near where the cow died,
497
00:22:02,916 --> 00:22:05,750
we detected gamma rays
three times the normal level.
498
00:22:05,875 --> 00:22:08,625
All right, I think, uh... I
think we got it covered.
499
00:22:08,750 --> 00:22:10,916
- Thomas, you ready to dig?
- Yeah, I'm ready to dig.
500
00:22:16,791 --> 00:22:20,625
Rolling this D8 dozer
across... This is definitely
501
00:22:20,708 --> 00:22:23,107
the largest bulldozer that has
ever been on Skinwalker Ranch.
502
00:22:27,541 --> 00:22:29,083
Nothing unusual.
503
00:22:29,208 --> 00:22:30,333
After seeing
504
00:22:30,458 --> 00:22:31,643
some of the data
that we've received
505
00:22:31,666 --> 00:22:33,375
after digging other
holes on the ranch,
506
00:22:33,500 --> 00:22:35,099
it'll be interesting to
see what happens.
507
00:22:38,041 --> 00:22:40,458
That looks like that may be
a little harder to dig, don't it?
508
00:22:40,541 --> 00:22:41,833
It does.
509
00:22:43,666 --> 00:22:45,708
Hey, Dragon, Erik,
y'all seeing anything?
510
00:22:47,375 --> 00:22:49,333
Yeah. Me, either.
511
00:22:59,083 --> 00:23:02,041
Ugh. That's not good.
512
00:23:02,166 --> 00:23:03,833
We really haven't
513
00:23:03,916 --> 00:23:05,625
even gotten that
deep down in the soil
514
00:23:05,708 --> 00:23:08,291
when the bulldozer
just bogs down and dies.
515
00:23:08,416 --> 00:23:12,000
This big of a dozer should be
able to handle this very easily.
516
00:23:12,166 --> 00:23:14,625
It's just another event in
a long list of experiments
517
00:23:14,708 --> 00:23:16,791
that haven't gone the
way that we planned.
518
00:23:16,875 --> 00:23:20,708
So, guys, I didn't shut it off.
It bogged down, and it-it died.
519
00:23:20,833 --> 00:23:23,750
But, uh, it's telling me
it's got a dead battery.
520
00:23:23,875 --> 00:23:25,833
Didn't they
just put two new ones in it?
521
00:23:25,958 --> 00:23:27,351
- Like, an hour ago.
- Yeah.
522
00:23:27,375 --> 00:23:29,333
I got to tell you,
523
00:23:29,416 --> 00:23:30,643
I wish I had a
voltmeter out here.
524
00:23:30,666 --> 00:23:32,250
So why don't we run back
525
00:23:32,375 --> 00:23:33,851
- and get one just to see?
- Yeah. - Yeah.
526
00:23:33,875 --> 00:23:35,625
It doesn't look like
that's going anywhere.
527
00:23:35,708 --> 00:23:38,166
It was like, here we go again.
528
00:23:38,291 --> 00:23:41,458
We just get started digging
to stimulate a ranch response,
529
00:23:41,583 --> 00:23:44,750
and the fully-charged
battery in the bulldozer dies.
530
00:23:44,875 --> 00:23:46,476
I'm gonna keep
fidgeting around with this.
531
00:23:46,500 --> 00:23:47,893
- Yeah, yeah. All right.
- Maybe it'll...
532
00:23:47,916 --> 00:23:49,500
Okay.
533
00:23:51,541 --> 00:23:54,666
- Man, were you expecting that?
- No.
534
00:23:54,791 --> 00:23:57,625
Was that the ranch
responding? I don't know.
535
00:23:57,708 --> 00:23:59,791
So while Erik and
Dragon went back
536
00:23:59,875 --> 00:24:01,555
to the command center
to get his voltmeter,
537
00:24:01,708 --> 00:24:03,458
and also to process
the collected data
538
00:24:03,541 --> 00:24:05,375
from gamma ray detector,
539
00:24:05,500 --> 00:24:07,083
the rest of us hung back
540
00:24:07,208 --> 00:24:10,916
just in case something even
more strange would happen next.
541
00:24:14,583 --> 00:24:16,125
Hey, Bryant,
542
00:24:16,250 --> 00:24:18,000
I want you to see this.
543
00:24:18,125 --> 00:24:20,875
We've got a couple flavors of
strangeness going here, Bryant.
544
00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:25,125
- Look! What the actual hell is this?
- What?
545
00:24:25,208 --> 00:24:27,666
While the guys were
trying to fix the bulldozer,
546
00:24:27,791 --> 00:24:29,750
I saw a massive
spike in radiation
547
00:24:29,875 --> 00:24:32,833
in our gamma ray detectors
stationed near Homestead Two
548
00:24:32,958 --> 00:24:35,583
in the area where
they were digging.
549
00:24:35,708 --> 00:24:38,208
It could be very dangerous
for anyone in that location.
550
00:24:38,333 --> 00:24:40,541
- This is not seven!
- Is that 3400?
551
00:24:40,708 --> 00:24:42,791
It's almost 3500.
552
00:24:42,875 --> 00:24:46,500
These are very
inexplicable spikes,
553
00:24:46,583 --> 00:24:49,125
as if something artificial
could be generating them.
554
00:24:49,208 --> 00:24:52,500
- You got to get those people out of there.
- Okay.
555
00:24:52,583 --> 00:24:54,833
That... that's...
556
00:25:02,041 --> 00:25:03,541
What's wrong?
557
00:25:03,666 --> 00:25:06,916
Erik pulled the data.
There was a spike at 3400.
558
00:25:07,041 --> 00:25:08,541
- 3400?
- 3400.
559
00:25:08,708 --> 00:25:11,500
Everybody out of here
now! Everybody out.
560
00:25:11,583 --> 00:25:16,250
Erik just picked up a gamma
ray source that was 3400
561
00:25:16,375 --> 00:25:19,166
micro roentgen per hour.
562
00:25:19,250 --> 00:25:21,416
That's a significant dose.
563
00:25:21,541 --> 00:25:24,250
That's enough dose ray
that it could be dangerous.
564
00:25:24,375 --> 00:25:26,208
In terms of gamma rays,
565
00:25:26,333 --> 00:25:29,000
that's almost 300 times what
would be normal and safe.
566
00:25:29,125 --> 00:25:30,666
You guys, come on.
567
00:25:30,833 --> 00:25:34,083
We had to immediately
evacuate the area
568
00:25:34,208 --> 00:25:36,791
and go see if we could get to
the bottom of what's going on.
569
00:25:36,875 --> 00:25:39,166
Erik was like,
"Go get 'em out of there."
570
00:25:40,833 --> 00:25:42,666
What's going on, Erik?
571
00:25:42,791 --> 00:25:46,166
Travis, you got to see this.
572
00:25:46,291 --> 00:25:47,666
You are not going to like it.
573
00:25:47,833 --> 00:25:49,712
I want you to see... This
is what we just logged
574
00:25:49,750 --> 00:25:52,250
in that field between Homestead
Two and Homestead Three.
575
00:25:52,375 --> 00:25:53,666
- Okay, now, look.
- Holy...
576
00:25:53,791 --> 00:25:55,041
- Look what we got.
- Yeah.
577
00:25:55,166 --> 00:25:57,083
- And I want you to see...
- Look at that.
578
00:25:57,208 --> 00:26:01,166
It's-it's almost 3,500
micro roentgens per hour.
579
00:26:01,333 --> 00:26:03,958
Now get this. You've got other
strange behavior here that...
580
00:26:04,041 --> 00:26:06,833
- Uh-oh. Zeroes. Yeah.
- Zeroes.
581
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:08,680
- Something has interfered...
- Oh.
582
00:26:08,791 --> 00:26:10,833
With the data
collection process.
583
00:26:10,958 --> 00:26:12,393
- There's three hours missing here.
- It's gone.
584
00:26:12,416 --> 00:26:13,833
It's gone.
585
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:15,916
What's really weird is,
586
00:26:16,041 --> 00:26:18,625
there was a big spike
in the gamma rays,
587
00:26:18,750 --> 00:26:21,958
and then, there was a
complete hole in the data,
588
00:26:22,041 --> 00:26:25,625
meaning the meter
said zero radiation.
589
00:26:25,708 --> 00:26:27,291
A gamma ray
detector can't do that.
590
00:26:27,416 --> 00:26:29,083
Even if you put
it in a lead box,
591
00:26:29,208 --> 00:26:33,083
it's still gonna give you some
background reading, not zero.
592
00:26:33,208 --> 00:26:36,583
Here's the thing. So,
either we're getting
593
00:26:36,708 --> 00:26:39,875
these horrible gamma rays
594
00:26:40,041 --> 00:26:41,518
- at this level... Okay.
- Yeah.
595
00:26:41,541 --> 00:26:43,291
Or something's hacking us.
596
00:26:43,416 --> 00:26:45,625
Either one isn't good, but
597
00:26:45,708 --> 00:26:47,018
we got to treat it like
it's the gamma rays
598
00:26:47,041 --> 00:26:48,558
'cause that's the most
dangerous right now.
599
00:26:48,583 --> 00:26:51,125
If this is saying,
"Don't dig here,"
600
00:26:51,208 --> 00:26:52,726
then that's the big,
blinky sign that says,
601
00:26:52,750 --> 00:26:54,666
we need to dig right there.
602
00:26:54,791 --> 00:26:56,751
- Right.
- And that's what I've said from day one.
603
00:26:56,875 --> 00:26:58,666
And I guess... this
only reinforces that.
604
00:26:58,791 --> 00:27:00,791
My question in response is,
605
00:27:00,875 --> 00:27:02,625
what is the smartest
way to follow up,
606
00:27:02,750 --> 00:27:04,833
and what is the safest
way to follow up?
607
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:09,101
Well, the smartest,
safest way, the first thing
608
00:27:09,125 --> 00:27:10,666
we got to do is, we
need to determine
609
00:27:10,791 --> 00:27:12,500
- what this is, right?
- Mm-hmm.
610
00:27:12,625 --> 00:27:14,666
If something was to happen
611
00:27:14,833 --> 00:27:18,916
to any of us, I mean,
this is bad stuff.
612
00:27:19,041 --> 00:27:21,208
Now that the
radiation levels are back
613
00:27:21,333 --> 00:27:23,833
to normal, I think we
should wait until tonight,
614
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:26,666
and go back out there to see
what else we can stimulate.
615
00:27:26,750 --> 00:27:28,833
We'll be careful
like Dragon wants,
616
00:27:28,958 --> 00:27:31,416
monitoring the whole
time with Geiger counters
617
00:27:31,541 --> 00:27:32,666
and the spectrum analyzer,
618
00:27:32,791 --> 00:27:34,875
but we need to
keep poking this nest
619
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:38,291
to see what we can reveal
about Skinwalker Ranch.
620
00:27:38,375 --> 00:27:40,518
To be honest, I'm not worried
about going back out there,
621
00:27:40,541 --> 00:27:43,125
if you're there monitoring.
622
00:27:43,208 --> 00:27:44,666
All right, great.
623
00:27:44,750 --> 00:27:46,166
Thanks, Erik.
624
00:27:50,125 --> 00:27:52,958
Yeah, right in
here in all these damn weeds.
625
00:27:53,041 --> 00:27:55,000
We waited until nightfall
626
00:27:55,125 --> 00:27:57,000
to go back out near
Homestead Two
627
00:27:57,166 --> 00:27:59,708
to see if we could stimulate
more phenomena to appear
628
00:27:59,833 --> 00:28:01,666
that might prove or disprove
629
00:28:01,833 --> 00:28:04,125
Colonel Alexander
and NIDS' theory
630
00:28:04,250 --> 00:28:06,791
that a portal might exist
on Skinwalker Ranch.
631
00:28:06,875 --> 00:28:09,416
All right, I want to get
where I can see the bulldozer.
632
00:28:09,541 --> 00:28:11,021
Well, I think we can see it...
633
00:28:12,291 --> 00:28:14,412
- Yeah, it's right there.
- Yeah, there it is.
634
00:28:14,458 --> 00:28:17,000
Let's get our stuff set up.
635
00:28:17,166 --> 00:28:20,208
Now, the plan was to
set up a safe distance
636
00:28:20,333 --> 00:28:22,000
from the dead bulldozer
637
00:28:22,125 --> 00:28:24,541
and use what's become
our tried-and-true method
638
00:28:24,666 --> 00:28:25,333
for stimulating phenomena.
639
00:28:25,500 --> 00:28:26,500
Watch your hand.
640
00:28:26,625 --> 00:28:27,500
Launching a rocket.
641
00:28:27,583 --> 00:28:29,833
We are ready to launch!
642
00:28:29,958 --> 00:28:32,833
We also set up a spectrum
analyzer to look out
643
00:28:32,916 --> 00:28:34,000
for any strange RF energy.
644
00:28:34,125 --> 00:28:36,166
Okay, so this is up and running.
645
00:28:36,250 --> 00:28:37,518
And we put a Geiger
counter right next
646
00:28:37,541 --> 00:28:39,250
to the stalled bulldozer
647
00:28:39,375 --> 00:28:41,166
to check for any more
dangerous gamma rays.
648
00:28:41,291 --> 00:28:44,166
- That's really, really low.
- Good. That makes me happy.
649
00:28:44,250 --> 00:28:45,916
We also brought out
650
00:28:46,041 --> 00:28:48,000
a night vision
monocular scope so that
651
00:28:48,166 --> 00:28:49,875
we could safely
observe from a distance
652
00:28:50,041 --> 00:28:52,708
if anything weird
happened over there.
653
00:28:52,833 --> 00:28:54,192
At this stage in
the investigation,
654
00:28:54,291 --> 00:28:57,041
safety was still
paramount, as always.
655
00:28:57,166 --> 00:28:58,583
Going hot!
656
00:28:58,708 --> 00:29:00,375
But we all agree that we need
657
00:29:00,500 --> 00:29:02,916
to be aggressive in order
to get some answers.
658
00:29:03,041 --> 00:29:05,000
- Thomas, you ready?
- Yeah, whenever you are.
659
00:29:05,083 --> 00:29:08,583
All right, here we go. Five,
660
00:29:08,708 --> 00:29:11,250
four, three,
661
00:29:11,375 --> 00:29:13,458
two,
662
00:29:13,541 --> 00:29:15,708
one.
663
00:29:22,958 --> 00:29:24,683
- Oh, got the chute.
- We got the chute!
664
00:29:24,708 --> 00:29:26,916
It's coming down
right over here.
665
00:29:27,041 --> 00:29:29,666
Coming down fast.
666
00:29:29,791 --> 00:29:33,000
The chute hasn't opened.
667
00:29:33,125 --> 00:29:34,416
Boom!
668
00:29:35,625 --> 00:29:37,166
Now, Kaleb, you got it?
669
00:29:37,291 --> 00:29:40,125
Oh, yeah, it landed
right in a tree.
670
00:29:40,208 --> 00:29:43,750
I'm looking for any UAPs.
671
00:29:44,708 --> 00:29:47,500
I don't see nothing.
672
00:29:47,583 --> 00:29:49,726
While Kaleb's getting that, I'm
gonna go over here and check
673
00:29:49,750 --> 00:29:51,041
the instruments and stuff.
674
00:29:51,208 --> 00:29:53,208
He may need some
help. I don't know.
675
00:29:53,333 --> 00:29:55,000
Kaleb, you need help?
676
00:29:55,166 --> 00:29:57,833
I got it.
677
00:29:57,958 --> 00:30:01,083
I can't figure out why the
chute didn't open, though.
678
00:30:01,208 --> 00:30:03,625
Erik, are you doing
something at 1.6?
679
00:30:03,708 --> 00:30:05,875
I'm not broadcasting.
680
00:30:06,041 --> 00:30:07,333
What are you seeing?
681
00:30:07,416 --> 00:30:09,250
A signal?
682
00:30:09,375 --> 00:30:12,791
1.60000...
683
00:30:12,875 --> 00:30:15,833
When the chute failed to open,
684
00:30:15,916 --> 00:30:17,833
and the rocket crashed
down near the homestead,
685
00:30:17,958 --> 00:30:19,500
I didn't want to
jump to conclusions,
686
00:30:19,666 --> 00:30:21,208
but then, right on cue,
687
00:30:21,333 --> 00:30:23,708
Erik's spectrum analyzer
registered that freaky,
688
00:30:23,833 --> 00:30:26,875
1.6 gigahertz energy
level that has coincided
689
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:30,041
with almost every phenomenon
we've witnessed out here.
690
00:30:30,208 --> 00:30:33,625
- You want me sweeping around? It's...
- Yeah, yeah, I do.
691
00:30:33,750 --> 00:30:35,791
Something was
starting to happen.
692
00:30:35,875 --> 00:30:39,541
Oh, whoa, whoa! Right there.
693
00:30:39,666 --> 00:30:42,250
The one signal went away.
694
00:30:42,375 --> 00:30:44,166
Go back the other way.
695
00:30:44,250 --> 00:30:47,125
Well, it's coming back. Oh,
right there, right there. Stop.
696
00:30:47,250 --> 00:30:49,208
- So, it's very directional?
- Yes.
697
00:30:50,416 --> 00:30:52,000
That's southwest.
698
00:30:52,166 --> 00:30:53,726
That's right where
the rocket just went.
699
00:30:53,750 --> 00:30:55,500
Yeah.
700
00:30:55,583 --> 00:30:57,875
Are you kidding me?
701
00:30:58,041 --> 00:30:59,875
Thomas's thought
to turn the antenna
702
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,291
connected to the
spectrum analyzer
703
00:31:02,416 --> 00:31:05,083
was brilliant because
it clearly showed us
704
00:31:05,208 --> 00:31:07,000
that the 1.6 gigahertz signal
705
00:31:07,125 --> 00:31:09,666
was coming from the
same direction in the sky
706
00:31:09,750 --> 00:31:12,291
that the rocket had
just flown through.
707
00:31:12,416 --> 00:31:14,333
The question was,
what the hell was it?
708
00:31:14,416 --> 00:31:17,083
Let me... let me go
up and down with it.
709
00:31:20,708 --> 00:31:21,958
Whoa, whoa, whoa. Stop.
710
00:31:24,291 --> 00:31:27,833
Suddenly, two signals
right when you did that.
711
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:30,000
So, look, we've got three peaks.
712
00:31:30,166 --> 00:31:32,791
That means nothing to me.
713
00:31:32,916 --> 00:31:34,183
Well, it doesn't mean
a lot to us except,
714
00:31:34,208 --> 00:31:35,683
usually, if it's a
communication signal,
715
00:31:35,708 --> 00:31:37,018
you'll see one big
one in the middle
716
00:31:37,041 --> 00:31:38,666
and then, two smaller
ones on the side.
717
00:31:38,750 --> 00:31:39,625
- At equal distances.
- And that's kind of
718
00:31:39,708 --> 00:31:41,000
what we're seeing,
719
00:31:41,083 --> 00:31:42,883
but this one's coming
and going, which is odd.
720
00:31:44,041 --> 00:31:46,916
- Want to try and listen to it?
- Yeah.
721
00:31:52,916 --> 00:31:56,125
It's chirping in frequency.
722
00:31:56,208 --> 00:31:59,791
That's a communication
signal or something.
723
00:31:59,916 --> 00:32:02,208
- That's...
- So all that disappears
724
00:32:02,375 --> 00:32:04,291
- when you go off down here?
- Yeah, yeah.
725
00:32:04,375 --> 00:32:06,083
I mean, it's got to
be right there, and...
726
00:32:06,208 --> 00:32:09,166
I mean, it's got to... It's a
small, a very small cone.
727
00:32:09,250 --> 00:32:10,791
That's interesting.
728
00:32:10,916 --> 00:32:13,958
So, if it were a
deep sky object,
729
00:32:14,041 --> 00:32:16,166
- in 15 minutes, it'd be gone.
- Mm-hmm.
730
00:32:16,333 --> 00:32:18,125
Because of the
rotation of the Earth.
731
00:32:18,208 --> 00:32:19,807
From my experience
as a rocket scientist,
732
00:32:19,875 --> 00:32:22,166
this sound frequency was
733
00:32:22,250 --> 00:32:24,333
like the kind of communication
signal you would get
734
00:32:24,458 --> 00:32:26,250
from a satellite
orbiting the Earth,
735
00:32:26,375 --> 00:32:28,458
or even farther out in space.
736
00:32:28,583 --> 00:32:30,083
Listen to that!
737
00:32:30,208 --> 00:32:31,958
But the signal was
coming from the area
738
00:32:32,083 --> 00:32:34,583
above the ranch where
we shot the rocket,
739
00:32:34,708 --> 00:32:37,541
and it was pointed
directly at Homestead Two.
740
00:32:37,708 --> 00:32:40,166
So, what would be broadcasting
a communication signal
741
00:32:40,250 --> 00:32:44,166
like that, and where
could it be coming from?
742
00:32:44,250 --> 00:32:45,875
Okay, so you say it's pointed
743
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:47,333
to where we just
shot the rocket.
744
00:32:47,416 --> 00:32:49,208
So, what? That's our message,
745
00:32:49,333 --> 00:32:51,375
and this is the
message coming back?
746
00:32:51,500 --> 00:32:56,125
I mean, I know that's a stretch,
but, after everything
747
00:32:56,250 --> 00:32:58,125
that's gone down
today, I have no clue.
748
00:32:58,208 --> 00:33:00,166
That's not a... I don't know.
749
00:33:00,291 --> 00:33:03,000
I swear that sounds like
a communication signal.
750
00:33:07,041 --> 00:33:08,583
It stopped.
751
00:33:17,125 --> 00:33:19,166
I don't know what elsep
to say about it. I mean,
752
00:33:19,291 --> 00:33:21,916
everything's been quiet,
except for that thing.
753
00:33:22,041 --> 00:33:23,933
But, yeah, the Geiger
counter hadn't had a single
754
00:33:23,958 --> 00:33:27,791
thing over, like,
15 or 16 all night.
755
00:33:27,875 --> 00:33:29,458
- Good.
- I know.
756
00:33:29,541 --> 00:33:31,375
- Good.
- Right?
757
00:33:31,541 --> 00:33:33,833
Uh, confusing, but good.
758
00:33:33,958 --> 00:33:36,041
We've had a hell of a day.
759
00:33:36,208 --> 00:33:38,333
That mysterious 1.6 gigahertz
760
00:33:38,416 --> 00:33:41,416
frequency sound
suddenly stopped.
761
00:33:41,541 --> 00:33:44,583
Now, I'm not sure, but to
me, it sounded like some sort
762
00:33:44,708 --> 00:33:46,333
of communication signal.
763
00:33:46,458 --> 00:33:48,541
It's crazy to think
about, but we need to try
764
00:33:48,666 --> 00:33:51,000
and figure out what
in the heck it could be
765
00:33:51,166 --> 00:33:53,333
and why we're receiving it.
766
00:33:53,416 --> 00:33:55,791
All right, well,
let's-let's load up.
767
00:33:55,875 --> 00:33:57,250
- All right.
- Okay.
768
00:34:04,166 --> 00:34:05,958
What's going on, Erik?
769
00:34:06,083 --> 00:34:08,666
- Well, I'm looking through some footage.
- Yeah?
770
00:34:08,791 --> 00:34:10,666
Yeah, I've got
something to show you.
771
00:34:10,791 --> 00:34:12,666
The day after
our night experiment
772
00:34:12,833 --> 00:34:14,992
at Homestead Two, Erik
called us in to review something
773
00:34:15,041 --> 00:34:16,500
in his surveillance footage
774
00:34:16,625 --> 00:34:20,000
that got him both excited
and a little freaked out.
775
00:34:20,083 --> 00:34:21,768
You know, we've got all
these new cameras out
776
00:34:21,791 --> 00:34:23,708
at the homesteads, so, you know,
777
00:34:23,833 --> 00:34:26,541
I-I get plenty
of critter activity.
778
00:34:26,666 --> 00:34:28,186
We have a lot deer,
we have a lot of...
779
00:34:28,333 --> 00:34:29,875
At night, we have birds
780
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:31,500
and bats, especially.
781
00:34:31,625 --> 00:34:33,333
But between all of that,
782
00:34:33,458 --> 00:34:35,791
once in a while, we get
some things that just don't fit in.
783
00:34:35,916 --> 00:34:38,541
You know? You know what it
looks like when you've got a,
784
00:34:38,708 --> 00:34:41,708
you know, moth, or a, you
know, some kind of insect, or
785
00:34:41,833 --> 00:34:44,083
a piece of debris flying
across your field of view.
786
00:34:44,208 --> 00:34:46,750
But I've got something
here that doesn't fit in.
787
00:34:46,875 --> 00:34:48,458
- Really?
- Yeah.
788
00:34:48,541 --> 00:34:51,666
It happened just last
night after our experiment.
789
00:34:51,833 --> 00:34:54,500
I'm gonna play this real time.
790
00:34:54,583 --> 00:34:58,166
So, what camera are
we looking at specifically here?
791
00:34:58,291 --> 00:35:00,500
This is out at the
Carriage House.
792
00:35:00,583 --> 00:35:02,833
Now, Car... That's the
thing across the road
793
00:35:02,958 --> 00:35:04,666
- from Homestead Two, right?
- Yeah.
794
00:35:04,750 --> 00:35:06,829
So, looking back toward
Homestead Two? It's that one?
795
00:35:06,875 --> 00:35:08,625
- Yeah.
- Okay, so across the canal.
796
00:35:08,708 --> 00:35:10,083
Yeah.
797
00:35:12,875 --> 00:35:16,083
What on Earth is that?
798
00:35:16,208 --> 00:35:18,791
What the hell is that?
799
00:35:18,875 --> 00:35:20,583
Okay, so, let's
play this through,
800
00:35:20,708 --> 00:35:23,708
and I really want your
thoughts on what this might be.
801
00:35:23,875 --> 00:35:27,041
Oh, it's behind the
tree, so it's far enough away.
802
00:35:27,208 --> 00:35:28,666
Right.
803
00:35:28,791 --> 00:35:30,583
- Play that again.
- Sure.
804
00:35:30,708 --> 00:35:32,351
You can see
the other particles around.
805
00:35:32,375 --> 00:35:35,416
So, it's leaving a trail.
806
00:35:35,541 --> 00:35:37,625
- Go back, Erik. Go back...
- Sure.
807
00:35:37,708 --> 00:35:39,916
- About, um...
- Sure. Yeah, point out the trail.
808
00:35:40,041 --> 00:35:41,625
Is that camera lag?
809
00:35:41,708 --> 00:35:43,101
- It could be.
- Stop right there.
810
00:35:43,125 --> 00:35:44,375
Uh-huh.
811
00:35:44,500 --> 00:35:45,291
You can even see
the trail behind it.
812
00:35:45,375 --> 00:35:46,916
Now let it... watch it go.
813
00:35:47,041 --> 00:35:48,561
It leaves a trail
behind it as it goes.
814
00:35:50,583 --> 00:35:52,750
- All right, stop. You see it?
- Sure.
815
00:35:52,875 --> 00:35:55,125
You see it back there?
816
00:35:55,208 --> 00:35:57,083
Now, what's the frame
rate of this camera?
817
00:35:57,208 --> 00:36:00,416
Um, these are set,
I believe, to 24. I...
818
00:36:00,541 --> 00:36:03,375
- Well, that's not moving much faster than that.
- No.
819
00:36:03,500 --> 00:36:06,791
So it shouldn't be
causing frame delay.
820
00:36:06,916 --> 00:36:09,018
- I mean, there's frame rate...
- There's a black line
821
00:36:09,041 --> 00:36:10,416
through the
center of this thing.
822
00:36:10,541 --> 00:36:12,541
- Interesting.
- If you look,
823
00:36:12,666 --> 00:36:15,000
there's a line going right
through the center of it.
824
00:36:15,083 --> 00:36:17,041
And it's like this.
825
00:36:17,208 --> 00:36:19,000
So, let it play and
see if it continues.
826
00:36:19,125 --> 00:36:22,041
Okay. Yeah.
827
00:36:22,166 --> 00:36:23,791
Yeah, it stays through it.
828
00:36:26,083 --> 00:36:28,500
- Let it keep going.
- Okay.
829
00:36:28,625 --> 00:36:31,916
So it's not a
bug inside the field of view
830
00:36:32,041 --> 00:36:33,625
because it goes
behind this tree, right?
831
00:36:33,750 --> 00:36:36,250
Well, it's not...
Look at the bugs, Travis.
832
00:36:36,375 --> 00:36:37,601
- You can see the bugs zooming by.
- Yeah.
833
00:36:37,625 --> 00:36:39,541
This thing looks like a balloon
834
00:36:39,666 --> 00:36:42,166
- floating around on the wind.
- Yeah, and then it goes
835
00:36:42,291 --> 00:36:44,416
behind the tree over here.
836
00:36:44,541 --> 00:36:48,000
- Yeah, but the movement is ver...
- Yeah, that one.
837
00:36:48,083 --> 00:36:49,563
Is very organic, I would say.
838
00:36:49,625 --> 00:36:51,875
It's-it's irregular,
it's not even just
839
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:53,666
smoothly moving
through the scene.
840
00:36:53,750 --> 00:36:54,583
Well, the interesting thing
is, you look at the grass
841
00:36:54,708 --> 00:36:56,375
and the trees.
842
00:36:56,500 --> 00:36:59,166
I don't see really
any wind, you know?
843
00:36:59,333 --> 00:37:02,625
- Good point.
- And so you see it, it drifts over to the right with
844
00:37:02,708 --> 00:37:05,250
no wind going that
direction, and then it drifts and
845
00:37:05,375 --> 00:37:07,184
just slowly... Like I
said, it almost looks like
846
00:37:07,208 --> 00:37:09,750
a balloon just floating around.
847
00:37:09,875 --> 00:37:12,333
That's not being
affected by the same forces
848
00:37:12,458 --> 00:37:14,333
that are carrying
the rest of it.
849
00:37:14,458 --> 00:37:16,500
It's not a balloon, because
a balloon would have
850
00:37:16,625 --> 00:37:20,083
been more stochastically,
nautically moving about.
851
00:37:20,208 --> 00:37:25,541
And that looks like
it's moving with intent.
852
00:37:25,666 --> 00:37:27,916
Comes along, decides it
doesn't want to be here,
853
00:37:28,041 --> 00:37:29,625
and it decides
to go off this way.
854
00:37:29,750 --> 00:37:31,083
This is unique.
855
00:37:31,208 --> 00:37:32,476
- I...
- You know, and it's...
856
00:37:32,500 --> 00:37:33,860
I don't think I've
seen anything...
857
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:35,559
You've never shown
me anything close to that.
858
00:37:35,583 --> 00:37:37,708
Well, it goes in front of
those trees and behind
859
00:37:37,875 --> 00:37:42,083
that tree, so that tells us
it's at least 30 feet away.
860
00:37:42,208 --> 00:37:45,333
So it's about the
size of a volleyball.
861
00:37:45,458 --> 00:37:48,291
Think of it this way. In
one night, one span there,
862
00:37:48,416 --> 00:37:51,833
we see a strange
communication beam,
863
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:54,708
and then we see this thing.
864
00:37:54,833 --> 00:37:56,750
Is there a connection?
865
00:38:04,500 --> 00:38:06,018
What's particularly bizarre
about this phenomenon
866
00:38:06,041 --> 00:38:08,000
is it happened just after
our rocket experiment
867
00:38:08,083 --> 00:38:09,458
at Homestead Two
868
00:38:09,541 --> 00:38:11,666
when we heard
that really strange
869
00:38:11,750 --> 00:38:15,458
1.6 gigahertz signal. It
all looks to be connected.
870
00:38:15,541 --> 00:38:17,208
I just don't know
how or why yet.
871
00:38:17,375 --> 00:38:20,125
In the beginning, it
almost looks like it changes
872
00:38:20,250 --> 00:38:21,416
shape a little bit to me.
873
00:38:21,541 --> 00:38:23,166
Is it more, though, that,
874
00:38:23,250 --> 00:38:26,333
looking at the end
would be a circle,
875
00:38:26,416 --> 00:38:29,250
but then as it
turns, a cigar shape,
876
00:38:29,375 --> 00:38:31,208
because you're
getting more of a 3D...
877
00:38:31,333 --> 00:38:33,875
Just like this, right?
If you're looking at this
878
00:38:34,041 --> 00:38:36,083
- end on, you think it's a circle, right?
- Sure.
879
00:38:36,208 --> 00:38:38,875
If you look at it like this,
it's like a line or something,
880
00:38:39,041 --> 00:38:40,333
you know, cigar-shaped.
881
00:38:40,416 --> 00:38:42,333
I'll tell you what
it reminds me of.
882
00:38:42,458 --> 00:38:45,291
The Tic Tac, the UAP video.
883
00:38:45,416 --> 00:38:47,500
The UAP that appeared in
884
00:38:47,625 --> 00:38:49,458
the Tic Tac video
that was recorded by
885
00:38:49,583 --> 00:38:52,166
the USS Nimitz group in 2004
886
00:38:52,250 --> 00:38:55,541
appeared to be cigar-shaped
when viewed from certain angles.
887
00:38:55,666 --> 00:38:58,791
But it was reported to look
more spherical by the Navy pilots
888
00:38:58,875 --> 00:39:00,666
when it flew straight
towards them.
889
00:39:00,791 --> 00:39:04,375
Do any of those objects move
around so organically, like...
890
00:39:04,541 --> 00:39:06,458
- As we see here?
- Yes, and they amorphously
891
00:39:06,541 --> 00:39:09,666
change shape, depending
on the direction they turn.
892
00:39:09,791 --> 00:39:13,625
So, we've measured a signal
many times when we've seen
893
00:39:13,708 --> 00:39:18,500
phenomena occur specifically
around 1.6 gigahertz.
894
00:39:18,583 --> 00:39:21,250
We're seeing
whatever this thing is,
895
00:39:21,375 --> 00:39:23,125
and interestedly enough,
896
00:39:23,208 --> 00:39:28,791
at the same instant, we see
this signal at 1.6 gigahertz.
897
00:39:28,916 --> 00:39:30,416
It's pretty bizarre.
898
00:39:31,500 --> 00:39:33,291
It's crazy is what it is.
899
00:39:33,375 --> 00:39:35,166
I don't know
what to say of this,
900
00:39:35,291 --> 00:39:39,208
but I would say you've captured
a UAP on camera here, Erik,
901
00:39:39,375 --> 00:39:41,500
and we don't know what it is.
902
00:39:41,625 --> 00:39:43,875
Well, this is just
one more case of
903
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:45,833
strange activity out
at the homesteads.
904
00:39:45,916 --> 00:39:47,476
You know, Homestead
Two is a place where we see
905
00:39:47,500 --> 00:39:49,250
a lot of this stuff.
906
00:39:49,375 --> 00:39:51,208
So, I'm not going
to be satisfied
907
00:39:51,375 --> 00:39:52,655
until I've spent some time doing
908
00:39:52,708 --> 00:39:54,226
- some image processing on this.
- Sure.
909
00:39:54,250 --> 00:39:55,351
And I'll come back
to you guys and
910
00:39:55,375 --> 00:39:56,655
let you know if I find anything.
911
00:39:56,708 --> 00:39:59,125
All right. Thanks,
guys. Good job, Erik.
912
00:40:00,583 --> 00:40:03,916
Our fascination, our
speculation about the ranch
913
00:40:04,041 --> 00:40:06,458
phenomenon and about
how the ranch fits into
914
00:40:06,583 --> 00:40:09,208
the larger picture has
only been elevated.
915
00:40:09,333 --> 00:40:11,333
We realize we're not
dealing with a simple
916
00:40:11,458 --> 00:40:14,041
problem set, but one
that is very complex.
917
00:40:14,208 --> 00:40:17,333
All of this new data
that we have tells us there are
918
00:40:17,458 --> 00:40:19,541
some really weird anomalies.
919
00:40:19,708 --> 00:40:21,027
We don't know
what's causing that.
920
00:40:21,083 --> 00:40:23,291
There's so much data.
921
00:40:23,416 --> 00:40:25,833
What is the next level
of experimentation
922
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:28,958
that we need to do to
determine what this is?
923
00:40:29,041 --> 00:40:31,791
You can't just go dig everywhere
under the ranch to find this.
924
00:40:31,875 --> 00:40:34,833
We're gonna have to find
a better way to look deeper
925
00:40:34,916 --> 00:40:37,166
under the surface to figure
out what's causing that.
926
00:40:37,291 --> 00:40:39,958
The presence
of a signal or a frequency
927
00:40:40,041 --> 00:40:42,833
that seems to attend the
events and the activities
928
00:40:42,916 --> 00:40:45,875
on the property may be
our greatest discovery yet.
929
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:49,583
I had always hoped that
these activities would lead
930
00:40:49,708 --> 00:40:52,416
to our ability to
hopefully communicate
931
00:40:52,541 --> 00:40:56,166
with the entities
involved with the ranch.
932
00:40:56,333 --> 00:40:59,000
Now, I believe what
we may be seeing is
933
00:40:59,125 --> 00:41:00,875
communication back to us
934
00:41:01,041 --> 00:41:03,125
in ways that we
had not anticipated
935
00:41:03,208 --> 00:41:04,791
here at Skinwalker Ranch.
936
00:41:08,916 --> 00:41:10,750
It looks like something's
collapsed here.
937
00:41:10,875 --> 00:41:13,750
That tells me that was
done to hide something.
938
00:41:13,875 --> 00:41:17,041
There was an area I
found on this mesa slope,
939
00:41:17,166 --> 00:41:18,750
and it lead to this open cave.
940
00:41:18,875 --> 00:41:20,583
I'm pretty sure this is it.
941
00:41:20,708 --> 00:41:23,416
What were they
hiding in that mesa?
942
00:41:23,541 --> 00:41:27,041
Popping smoke. Look,
look, it's getting sucked in.
943
00:41:27,166 --> 00:41:29,541
You guys really stirred
the old hornet's nest.
944
00:41:29,708 --> 00:41:32,125
- Look, they're movin'.
- I've never seen this many
945
00:41:32,208 --> 00:41:33,458
mysterious lights in the sky.
73646
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