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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,375 --> 00:00:04,517 - I got a headache bro. - Uh, his head is starting to hurt. 2 00:00:04,541 --> 00:00:06,375 Here, jump in here real quick. 3 00:00:06,500 --> 00:00:08,500 We may have to get you off the ranch. 4 00:00:08,625 --> 00:00:11,958 The fact that something would be interfering 5 00:00:12,041 --> 00:00:15,125 points to malevolent intent. 6 00:00:15,208 --> 00:00:18,667 In our tradition, if you see something, 7 00:00:18,832 --> 00:00:20,207 you don't talk about it. 8 00:00:21,375 --> 00:00:23,332 Hey, Look! UAP right there. Yup. 9 00:00:23,457 --> 00:00:27,707 So we have a region in altitude that tells us 10 00:00:27,875 --> 00:00:29,250 there is some kind on phenomenon 11 00:00:29,375 --> 00:00:32,250 taking place right here over the triangle. 12 00:00:33,125 --> 00:00:36,542 There is a ranch in Northern Utah. 13 00:00:37,332 --> 00:00:39,500 It is considered the epicenter 14 00:00:39,582 --> 00:00:44,125 of the strangest and most disturbing phenomena on Earth: 15 00:00:44,207 --> 00:00:46,625 animal mutilations, 16 00:00:46,707 --> 00:00:48,792 bizarre UFO sightings 17 00:00:48,875 --> 00:00:53,917 and unusual energies that have proven harmful to humans. 18 00:00:54,042 --> 00:00:56,917 For 20 years, the federal government 19 00:00:57,042 --> 00:00:59,917 tried to find answers and failed. 20 00:01:00,042 --> 00:01:04,250 Now a new team of dedicated scientists, 21 00:01:04,375 --> 00:01:08,250 researchers and experts has taken over. 22 00:01:08,375 --> 00:01:12,375 They are determined to solve the mystery and reveal... 23 00:01:14,582 --> 00:01:18,125 The Secret of Skinwalker Ranch. 24 00:01:24,082 --> 00:01:26,457 I don't know if it's 25 00:01:26,542 --> 00:01:28,750 the things we're doing that's stimulating these things 26 00:01:28,875 --> 00:01:30,375 like launching rockets. 27 00:01:30,500 --> 00:01:32,750 But there seems to be something happening that is 28 00:01:32,875 --> 00:01:35,167 jamming, hacking, spoofing us. 29 00:01:35,250 --> 00:01:37,125 We've recently conducted 30 00:01:37,207 --> 00:01:39,542 two new experiments at the triangle and have gotten 31 00:01:39,667 --> 00:01:41,917 more confirmation that something strange 32 00:01:42,042 --> 00:01:44,332 is happening about a mile above that area. 33 00:01:45,292 --> 00:01:48,500 Three, two, one, bottle drop. 34 00:01:48,582 --> 00:01:50,292 First, we dropped GPS units 35 00:01:50,417 --> 00:01:52,792 from Brandon's helicopter down through it. 36 00:01:52,875 --> 00:01:54,792 Holy cow. Look at that. 37 00:01:54,917 --> 00:01:56,116 So we threw it out right there 38 00:01:56,207 --> 00:01:58,332 and then, look, it goes upwind. 39 00:01:58,500 --> 00:02:00,000 But something we couldn't see 40 00:02:00,125 --> 00:02:01,500 seemed to deflect our instruments 41 00:02:01,667 --> 00:02:02,957 away from the spot. 42 00:02:03,042 --> 00:02:05,332 The rocket is going hot. 43 00:02:07,207 --> 00:02:08,933 Then, we launched rockets up there with a team 44 00:02:08,957 --> 00:02:12,125 of former military experts who brought a specialized 45 00:02:12,250 --> 00:02:13,707 tracking system for studying UAP. 46 00:02:13,832 --> 00:02:16,792 - Hey look, UAP right there. - Yep. I see it. 47 00:02:16,917 --> 00:02:19,058 We did stimulate something to appear in the sky, 48 00:02:19,082 --> 00:02:20,625 but the tracking system 49 00:02:20,707 --> 00:02:23,125 mysteriously shut down over and over... 50 00:02:23,207 --> 00:02:24,625 You got to be kidding me. 51 00:02:24,707 --> 00:02:26,375 Preventing us from getting any data. 52 00:02:26,542 --> 00:02:28,292 Everything just went off-line. 53 00:02:28,375 --> 00:02:32,082 We need to find a way to collect data in that zone 54 00:02:32,207 --> 00:02:34,207 for a sustained period of time 55 00:02:34,332 --> 00:02:37,292 to figure out just what's causing these strange events 56 00:02:37,375 --> 00:02:39,417 that keep happening on Skinwalker Ranch. 57 00:02:39,542 --> 00:02:41,667 Well, you know, these rockets are great 58 00:02:41,792 --> 00:02:44,082 and we're seeing this data. The problem with them is 59 00:02:44,207 --> 00:02:45,957 they go up so fast and come down so fast, 60 00:02:46,042 --> 00:02:48,401 I don't feel like you guys are really getting a lot of data. 61 00:02:48,542 --> 00:02:50,500 A typical flight trajectory is, 62 00:02:50,625 --> 00:02:53,207 even with a very big chute on them, 63 00:02:53,375 --> 00:02:55,332 is less than 20 or 30 seconds. 64 00:02:55,457 --> 00:02:58,332 - Yeah. - So, it would be nice to linger there 65 00:02:58,500 --> 00:03:01,082 like with a fixed-wing aircraft that we could just keep fly... 66 00:03:01,207 --> 00:03:03,832 Orbiting over the spot, or something. 67 00:03:03,957 --> 00:03:05,417 You know, where we just make 68 00:03:05,542 --> 00:03:07,667 a push broom-type of pattern at various altitudes. 69 00:03:07,832 --> 00:03:11,167 You could do that with, like, a Cessna or something like that 70 00:03:11,332 --> 00:03:13,207 and you could put plenty of instruments in it. 71 00:03:13,375 --> 00:03:15,534 They could go about a hundred miles an hour, or slower, 72 00:03:15,582 --> 00:03:19,125 and just push broom back and forth over the ranch. 73 00:03:19,207 --> 00:03:20,608 And then you could go up in altitude 74 00:03:20,707 --> 00:03:22,292 and do it again and keep doing it. 75 00:03:22,417 --> 00:03:24,832 We could get a complete 3D map 76 00:03:24,917 --> 00:03:28,167 of GPS, gamma rays, radio, 77 00:03:28,250 --> 00:03:29,832 whatever we wanted to do like that. 78 00:03:29,957 --> 00:03:32,292 Well, we've talked about this for a while, I say we do it. 79 00:03:32,375 --> 00:03:34,167 - Right. - I'll bet you 80 00:03:34,292 --> 00:03:36,917 that Cameron knows somebody, 81 00:03:37,042 --> 00:03:39,750 that's got a plane that would do this, that would help us out. 82 00:03:39,875 --> 00:03:41,832 Okay, should we go do it? 83 00:03:41,957 --> 00:03:44,183 We need to reach out to Cameron to see if he can help us out. 84 00:03:44,207 --> 00:03:45,332 Sounds good. 85 00:03:45,417 --> 00:03:46,792 Thanks, Erik. 86 00:03:58,375 --> 00:04:01,167 Right up here is where the petroglyph is. 87 00:04:01,250 --> 00:04:02,957 Okay. 88 00:04:03,082 --> 00:04:04,417 While we were preparing 89 00:04:04,542 --> 00:04:06,250 for the experiment above the triangle, 90 00:04:06,375 --> 00:04:07,750 Tom Lewis and Kandus Linde went to 91 00:04:07,875 --> 00:04:10,207 nearby McConkie Ranch to meet with a respected 92 00:04:10,375 --> 00:04:12,667 Navajo Nation's member named Jon Dover. 93 00:04:12,792 --> 00:04:15,332 I think he said he was going to meet us 94 00:04:15,417 --> 00:04:17,500 - just at the trailhead up here. - Hello! 95 00:04:17,625 --> 00:04:18,500 - I'm up here. - Jon. 96 00:04:18,625 --> 00:04:19,875 Hello. 97 00:04:20,042 --> 00:04:21,042 Come on up. 98 00:04:21,081 --> 00:04:22,167 Let's head on up. 99 00:04:22,331 --> 00:04:24,000 Now, we want 100 00:04:24,125 --> 00:04:26,581 any information that can help us with our investigation 101 00:04:26,706 --> 00:04:28,581 and the Indigenous people in this region 102 00:04:28,706 --> 00:04:31,667 have a long history with all kinds of strange phenomenon. 103 00:04:31,792 --> 00:04:34,667 - You're good? - Oh, yeah. 104 00:04:34,792 --> 00:04:37,500 Just recently, we met with Corey Serawop 105 00:04:37,581 --> 00:04:39,167 who shared a story with us 106 00:04:39,292 --> 00:04:41,706 about his experience in the Uinta Basin. 107 00:04:41,875 --> 00:04:44,292 One thing he brought up was that we should visit 108 00:04:44,375 --> 00:04:46,917 McConkie Ranch and check out the petroglyphs there. 109 00:04:47,042 --> 00:04:48,206 This is amazing. 110 00:04:48,375 --> 00:04:50,250 Wow, yeah. 111 00:04:50,375 --> 00:04:52,292 Jon Dover has a deep understanding 112 00:04:52,417 --> 00:04:54,375 of the petroglyphs and pictographs that are up 113 00:04:54,542 --> 00:04:55,781 on the walls at McConkie Ranch. 114 00:04:55,875 --> 00:04:59,500 And so, Kandus and I are very interested 115 00:04:59,581 --> 00:05:01,500 to hear what Jon has to say. 116 00:05:01,625 --> 00:05:04,166 - Ah, there you are. Hi. - Hey, there. 117 00:05:04,333 --> 00:05:06,750 - Glad you made it. - Thanks so much for having us. 118 00:05:06,875 --> 00:05:08,000 - Kandus. - Jon. 119 00:05:08,125 --> 00:05:09,500 Jon, nice to meet you. 120 00:05:09,666 --> 00:05:11,000 - And I'm Tom. - Hi, Tom. 121 00:05:11,166 --> 00:05:12,583 My name is Jonathan Dover. 122 00:05:12,708 --> 00:05:14,875 I spent 27 years 123 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:19,167 as a, uh, archeological resource investigator 124 00:05:19,292 --> 00:05:22,167 with the Navajo Nation Rangers. 125 00:05:22,250 --> 00:05:23,831 Oh, wow. 126 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:26,000 Yeah, this place is amazing. 127 00:05:26,081 --> 00:05:30,167 This is one place of a whole bunch of places 128 00:05:30,292 --> 00:05:32,500 that have petroglyphs 129 00:05:32,625 --> 00:05:36,081 that were put on these rocks a thousand years ago 130 00:05:36,206 --> 00:05:37,956 or even earlier than that. 131 00:05:38,042 --> 00:05:39,667 Mm-hmm. 132 00:05:39,750 --> 00:05:41,667 The ancient people that populated 133 00:05:41,831 --> 00:05:45,456 this place and some of the other places around here show 134 00:05:45,581 --> 00:05:47,331 that the natives back then 135 00:05:47,500 --> 00:05:50,500 were seeing unusual things happening 136 00:05:50,625 --> 00:05:52,500 and were recording them, too. 137 00:05:52,667 --> 00:05:56,331 There's a lot of information that's put on these rocks 138 00:05:56,500 --> 00:05:59,792 and they are put on in successive "timescape." 139 00:05:59,875 --> 00:06:04,166 Everybody that came through would add something to it. 140 00:06:04,250 --> 00:06:06,416 They're a record and... 141 00:06:06,541 --> 00:06:09,291 unusual things would be documented on them. 142 00:06:09,416 --> 00:06:12,625 They could depict clans, they could depict Gods, 143 00:06:12,750 --> 00:06:17,000 they could even depict maps of the area. 144 00:06:17,125 --> 00:06:21,417 Yeah, we have a few small panels at the ranch and we're really 145 00:06:21,542 --> 00:06:23,475 trying to tie anything together that's in this region 146 00:06:23,500 --> 00:06:25,625 to the ranch, to see if there's 147 00:06:25,706 --> 00:06:27,625 connections or anything that we could draw 148 00:06:27,750 --> 00:06:28,956 lines to. 149 00:06:29,081 --> 00:06:30,762 We'll definitely see some connections here. 150 00:06:30,875 --> 00:06:31,625 Excellent. 151 00:06:31,750 --> 00:06:33,292 If we go further down here, 152 00:06:33,417 --> 00:06:35,331 we're going to take a look at one of them. 153 00:06:35,456 --> 00:06:37,581 - Great. - Show us the way. 154 00:06:37,706 --> 00:06:39,456 Wow. 155 00:06:39,581 --> 00:06:42,167 Here is the most interesting one that I've found so far, 156 00:06:42,250 --> 00:06:45,542 is this spiral right here. 157 00:06:45,667 --> 00:06:48,331 The spiral seems to be universal. 158 00:06:48,456 --> 00:06:50,206 All through 159 00:06:50,331 --> 00:06:52,167 the United States, through the Southwest, 160 00:06:52,331 --> 00:06:54,375 in Europe, in Africa. 161 00:06:54,542 --> 00:06:58,375 Some archeologists tell me that this spiral 162 00:06:58,500 --> 00:07:01,625 could refer to some kind of a portal. 163 00:07:01,708 --> 00:07:03,833 - A portal? - Yeah, a portal. 164 00:07:03,958 --> 00:07:05,583 Okay. 165 00:07:05,708 --> 00:07:08,333 And, uh, we think that there's something 166 00:07:08,500 --> 00:07:09,666 called infrasound. 167 00:07:09,833 --> 00:07:13,458 Which is different frequencies of sound 168 00:07:13,583 --> 00:07:17,167 that you can't detect them with human hearing. 169 00:07:17,292 --> 00:07:19,500 And we believe that it's very possible 170 00:07:19,625 --> 00:07:22,000 that these different frequencies 171 00:07:22,167 --> 00:07:25,875 can open portals to other places. 172 00:07:27,331 --> 00:07:28,831 For two years now, 173 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:32,167 all over Skinwalker Ranch we've seen this strange signal 174 00:07:32,331 --> 00:07:35,081 with an RF frequency of 1.6 gigahertz. 175 00:07:36,375 --> 00:07:37,667 We've got liftoff. 176 00:07:37,750 --> 00:07:39,581 Oh, my God, during launch 177 00:07:39,706 --> 00:07:41,417 the electromagnetic spectrum is going 178 00:07:41,542 --> 00:07:43,456 crazy, guys... I've never seen anything like it. 179 00:07:43,542 --> 00:07:45,831 No technology that we know of 180 00:07:45,917 --> 00:07:49,792 uses this specific 1.6 gigahertz frequency, 181 00:07:49,875 --> 00:07:51,667 but we often see it when people have 182 00:07:51,750 --> 00:07:53,706 physiological episodes on the ranch, 183 00:07:53,831 --> 00:07:56,875 and also, when we've seen UAPs. 184 00:07:57,000 --> 00:08:00,541 Now, the idea that UAP and strange frequencies 185 00:08:00,708 --> 00:08:04,000 are somehow connected to a phenomenon like a portal, 186 00:08:04,125 --> 00:08:05,458 is very interesting, 187 00:08:05,541 --> 00:08:07,833 especially since many of the Indigenous people 188 00:08:07,916 --> 00:08:12,125 in this area truly believe that connection exists. 189 00:08:12,208 --> 00:08:16,125 You're saying this is a portal? Or could be a portal? 190 00:08:16,250 --> 00:08:18,581 This very much could be a portal. 191 00:08:19,456 --> 00:08:22,206 The significance of portals 192 00:08:22,375 --> 00:08:24,750 or dimensional gates, if you would... 193 00:08:24,875 --> 00:08:25,875 Mm-hmm. 194 00:08:25,917 --> 00:08:28,706 Is that the Navajos themselves 195 00:08:28,875 --> 00:08:31,581 talk about a people coming to visit. 196 00:08:31,706 --> 00:08:35,167 Different dimensions are not like walls. 197 00:08:35,331 --> 00:08:36,667 If you can imagine... 198 00:08:37,500 --> 00:08:39,250 they're interlaced together. 199 00:08:39,375 --> 00:08:41,042 So, 200 00:08:41,206 --> 00:08:44,707 what if every now and then something just leaks through? 201 00:08:44,875 --> 00:08:46,875 - Mm-hmm. - You could travel, 202 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:48,600 - we just don't know how to do it. - Yeah. 203 00:08:48,707 --> 00:08:50,750 Even the Navajo creation story 204 00:08:50,875 --> 00:08:54,167 talks about coming through several different worlds 205 00:08:54,332 --> 00:08:56,500 until they see a hole in the sky 206 00:08:56,582 --> 00:08:59,875 and they climb up into this world. 207 00:09:00,875 --> 00:09:03,917 We think that there's something going on with frequency... 208 00:09:04,667 --> 00:09:07,082 that is creating this effect. 209 00:09:07,207 --> 00:09:08,667 Wow. 210 00:09:08,832 --> 00:09:10,875 There's a lot more we need to look at up here. 211 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:13,167 - All right. - So, we'll move along here. 212 00:09:15,292 --> 00:09:18,082 As we were looking at this spiral petroglyph 213 00:09:18,207 --> 00:09:20,667 described as a portal, Kandus and I realized 214 00:09:20,750 --> 00:09:22,667 there is some sort of connection here 215 00:09:22,832 --> 00:09:24,832 with what's happening on the ranch 216 00:09:24,957 --> 00:09:27,375 and possibly at the triangle. 217 00:09:27,542 --> 00:09:29,750 We've heard a lot of 218 00:09:29,875 --> 00:09:32,417 very interesting stories about seeing portals 219 00:09:32,542 --> 00:09:34,125 that opened right above people's heads 220 00:09:34,250 --> 00:09:38,000 and figures coming out of these portals. 221 00:09:38,832 --> 00:09:40,167 - It's amazing. - Yeah. 222 00:09:40,292 --> 00:09:42,292 Oh, yeah. I see it. 223 00:09:42,375 --> 00:09:45,582 - Oh, and that's like a human... - It's another figure. 224 00:09:45,707 --> 00:09:48,000 One thing I've just thought about is, you know, 225 00:09:48,125 --> 00:09:50,332 just on this rock wall right here, 226 00:09:50,457 --> 00:09:52,457 and it is speculation and inference... 227 00:09:52,542 --> 00:09:53,957 - Right. - But... 228 00:09:54,042 --> 00:09:56,332 we could have a skinwalker shape-shifter. 229 00:09:56,417 --> 00:09:57,875 We could have... 230 00:09:58,042 --> 00:09:59,850 - aliens. - Somebody coming through another dimension. 231 00:09:59,875 --> 00:10:02,667 - Through other dimensions. - Right. 232 00:10:02,832 --> 00:10:05,125 The idea of Navajo skinwalkers, 233 00:10:05,207 --> 00:10:08,832 gods coming from the sky, 234 00:10:08,957 --> 00:10:10,875 even UFOs, 235 00:10:11,042 --> 00:10:13,792 all had one thing in common and that's this idea 236 00:10:13,875 --> 00:10:17,000 of dimensions and portals, 237 00:10:17,082 --> 00:10:20,417 and it's the one thing that ties everything together. 238 00:10:20,542 --> 00:10:22,500 With the spirals back here that you were 239 00:10:22,667 --> 00:10:25,917 talking about could be indicative of-of a portal, 240 00:10:26,042 --> 00:10:27,832 it could be that it was right here 241 00:10:27,957 --> 00:10:29,457 or maybe off in the distance? 242 00:10:29,542 --> 00:10:30,875 What do you think? 243 00:10:31,042 --> 00:10:33,000 It-it could be a whole range of things. 244 00:10:33,082 --> 00:10:34,332 We've actually 245 00:10:34,457 --> 00:10:38,457 had stories involving UAPs that have 246 00:10:38,542 --> 00:10:42,082 entered into mesas... 247 00:10:43,750 --> 00:10:46,625 and just gone right into the rock. 248 00:10:53,875 --> 00:10:56,082 This idea of portals, of dimensions, 249 00:10:56,207 --> 00:11:00,832 it all ties together, and that's what we're seeing with a lot 250 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:03,375 of these places and I think that's what you're 251 00:11:03,500 --> 00:11:05,667 experiencing in the Uinta Basin there. 252 00:11:05,792 --> 00:11:09,750 A lot of phenomenon that's associated 253 00:11:09,875 --> 00:11:11,625 with cross-dimensional things going on. 254 00:11:11,707 --> 00:11:14,167 Wow. We'd really love 255 00:11:14,250 --> 00:11:17,000 to have you come to the ranch and look at a few things. 256 00:11:17,082 --> 00:11:18,542 Based on what you've told us today 257 00:11:18,707 --> 00:11:20,292 and your interpretation of these panels, 258 00:11:20,375 --> 00:11:23,500 I think there's a good chance that the same 259 00:11:23,625 --> 00:11:25,125 people that were here 260 00:11:25,250 --> 00:11:27,625 could've very well been on our ranch at one point. 261 00:11:27,750 --> 00:11:30,125 I think we'd both benefit 262 00:11:30,207 --> 00:11:33,667 from you coming to the ranch and giving your insight to 263 00:11:33,750 --> 00:11:35,707 - what we've seen there. - We have some 264 00:11:35,832 --> 00:11:38,167 very interesting things right on the Skinwalker Ranch. 265 00:11:38,250 --> 00:11:40,292 It might be things you've never seen before, so... 266 00:11:40,417 --> 00:11:42,750 - I'd love to come over there. - Great. 267 00:11:42,875 --> 00:11:44,667 Lead the way. 268 00:11:50,042 --> 00:11:52,167 I think we should stop right here. 269 00:11:52,292 --> 00:11:54,500 Because of what happened last year with the sensors 270 00:11:54,582 --> 00:11:56,000 on Brandon's helicopter 271 00:11:56,167 --> 00:11:57,792 detecting an object right below us, 272 00:11:57,875 --> 00:12:00,750 and also, what happened just two weeks ago 273 00:12:00,875 --> 00:12:03,792 when we dropped GPS units into the triangle anomaly 274 00:12:03,875 --> 00:12:05,457 which appeared to just bounce off 275 00:12:05,582 --> 00:12:08,167 of an invisible object in the sky above the ranch... 276 00:12:08,250 --> 00:12:10,667 - Hey, Kendra, how are you? - Hey. 277 00:12:10,792 --> 00:12:12,183 We really wanted to go further 278 00:12:12,207 --> 00:12:13,667 with attempting to map that anomaly. 279 00:12:13,792 --> 00:12:14,975 So, to conduct today's experiment 280 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:16,832 above the triangle area, 281 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:19,957 Cameron Fugal put us in touch with a pilot named Kendra Hart 282 00:12:20,042 --> 00:12:21,957 who's agreed to take Erik up in her Cessna 283 00:12:22,042 --> 00:12:23,832 to help us collect our data. 284 00:12:23,957 --> 00:12:26,582 Since you fly out here, have you flown over the property? 285 00:12:26,707 --> 00:12:28,207 The ranch itself? 286 00:12:28,332 --> 00:12:29,625 I have not. 287 00:12:29,750 --> 00:12:31,625 Most of my students stay further west and so, 288 00:12:31,707 --> 00:12:33,308 this will be my first time this far out east 289 00:12:33,332 --> 00:12:34,792 and especially over the ranch, so... 290 00:12:34,917 --> 00:12:36,433 - Really? - Yeah, it will be my first time. 291 00:12:36,457 --> 00:12:38,308 - First time? - First time. - So... 292 00:12:38,332 --> 00:12:41,917 What we want to do is fly from here over to the ranch. 293 00:12:42,042 --> 00:12:43,667 When you get there, 294 00:12:43,792 --> 00:12:45,832 we would like for you to do a grid pattern, 295 00:12:45,917 --> 00:12:48,332 at, uh, five different altitudes. 296 00:12:48,457 --> 00:12:50,250 Erik will show you the points of interest, 297 00:12:50,375 --> 00:12:52,475 but there's a triangle right in the middle of the property 298 00:12:52,500 --> 00:12:54,832 and directly above that, 299 00:12:54,957 --> 00:12:57,832 between, say, 2,500 and 5,000 feet, 300 00:12:57,957 --> 00:12:59,667 we've seen some weird things. 301 00:12:59,792 --> 00:13:01,667 - Okay. - And, so we're hoping to get 302 00:13:01,750 --> 00:13:04,000 some instrumentation in that area 303 00:13:04,167 --> 00:13:06,018 and see if we can figure out what those weird things are. 304 00:13:06,042 --> 00:13:08,082 - Awesome. - One thing that, 305 00:13:08,207 --> 00:13:11,000 uh, not to scare you, but occasionally, 306 00:13:11,125 --> 00:13:12,707 when people are on the ranch and even 307 00:13:12,832 --> 00:13:14,917 above the ranch have 308 00:13:15,042 --> 00:13:17,707 sort of a physiological response to being there. 309 00:13:17,875 --> 00:13:19,554 If you start feeling anything at any point, 310 00:13:19,625 --> 00:13:20,792 you know, you're the pilot, 311 00:13:20,917 --> 00:13:22,542 if it's time to abort the mission 312 00:13:22,707 --> 00:13:24,725 'cause you got a weird feeling, then you abort the mission. 313 00:13:24,750 --> 00:13:26,082 - All right? - Mm-hmm. 314 00:13:26,207 --> 00:13:28,542 Well, we've got some work to do to get ready to go 315 00:13:28,667 --> 00:13:29,933 and you may have some flight prep 316 00:13:29,957 --> 00:13:31,292 - or something. - Absolutely. 317 00:13:31,375 --> 00:13:33,542 So, we'll be maybe in and out of the cargo area 318 00:13:33,667 --> 00:13:36,332 - for the next couple minutes and then we'll be ready to go. - Okay. 319 00:13:36,417 --> 00:13:38,475 - Let's get it done. - All right, Erik, let's grab everything. 320 00:13:38,500 --> 00:13:41,250 I'll be going up in the Cessna aircraft today 321 00:13:41,375 --> 00:13:42,917 with some GPS trackers 322 00:13:43,042 --> 00:13:45,125 and a data-logging radiation meter, 323 00:13:45,207 --> 00:13:48,207 our standard equipment set including our spectrum analyzer, 324 00:13:48,375 --> 00:13:49,875 Geiger counter 325 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:52,957 and other local equipment to observe whether 326 00:13:53,082 --> 00:13:55,082 there are any GPS anomalies 327 00:13:55,207 --> 00:13:57,707 up near the 5,000-foot point over the triangle. 328 00:13:57,832 --> 00:13:59,500 All right. 329 00:13:59,582 --> 00:14:01,832 I'm gonna close it up and then go put it in the plane. 330 00:14:01,957 --> 00:14:03,500 Sounds good. 331 00:14:03,625 --> 00:14:05,332 Today, the plan is to fly 332 00:14:05,417 --> 00:14:08,332 the Cessna in a sequential push broom pattern over the ranch 333 00:14:08,457 --> 00:14:11,167 sweeping back and forth over the triangle 334 00:14:11,292 --> 00:14:14,000 at various altitudes. At the same time, 335 00:14:14,125 --> 00:14:16,417 using the GPS sensors to collect data 336 00:14:16,542 --> 00:14:18,667 that we hope will give us a three-dimensional model 337 00:14:18,792 --> 00:14:20,457 of the anomaly 338 00:14:20,582 --> 00:14:22,957 that we believe is up there somewhere between 339 00:14:23,042 --> 00:14:25,875 3,000 and 5,000 feet above the ground. 340 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:27,879 - What do you got there? - This is your headset. 341 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:31,750 - Got it. - Okay, and then, this is the radio 342 00:14:31,875 --> 00:14:34,000 that we are using for the radio source. 343 00:14:34,082 --> 00:14:36,832 For this experiment, we're also making use of 344 00:14:36,917 --> 00:14:39,000 a new avionic comm system, 345 00:14:39,167 --> 00:14:40,707 making it easier for us to directly 346 00:14:40,832 --> 00:14:43,042 communicate from the aircraft to the ground. 347 00:14:43,167 --> 00:14:45,542 I'm gonna head back over to the ranch. 348 00:14:45,667 --> 00:14:48,000 You guys get in the air. We're burning daylight, right? 349 00:14:48,082 --> 00:14:50,250 - See you. - All right, see you in a bit. 350 00:15:12,082 --> 00:15:14,207 While I'm in the plane above the ranch, 351 00:15:14,332 --> 00:15:16,457 the rest of the team will be monitoring from below. 352 00:15:16,582 --> 00:15:19,457 I'm really excited to see what happens 353 00:15:19,542 --> 00:15:21,250 during the course of the experiment. 354 00:15:29,500 --> 00:15:31,207 I've got these antennas running. 355 00:15:31,375 --> 00:15:34,332 - This is going out to the two jaggies. - Okay. 356 00:15:34,457 --> 00:15:37,582 Once she gets over here, we should, uh, 357 00:15:37,707 --> 00:15:39,457 see her start tracking on there. 358 00:15:39,542 --> 00:15:40,832 Okay. 359 00:15:40,957 --> 00:15:42,183 We're going to monitor this experiment 360 00:15:42,207 --> 00:15:43,518 with a couple of different systems. 361 00:15:43,542 --> 00:15:45,542 First, we have an ADSB. 362 00:15:45,707 --> 00:15:48,167 Now, that identifies all the air traffic flying 363 00:15:48,250 --> 00:15:51,125 in the vicinity of the ranch and shows them on a map. 364 00:15:51,207 --> 00:15:53,082 We've also mounted two antennas 365 00:15:53,207 --> 00:15:54,667 on the deck of the command center. 366 00:15:54,792 --> 00:15:56,582 Those are pointed at the triangle 367 00:15:56,707 --> 00:15:59,500 to track the signals being broadcast from Kendra's plane 368 00:15:59,625 --> 00:16:01,167 as well as scan 369 00:16:01,250 --> 00:16:02,832 for any dangerous energy spikes 370 00:16:02,957 --> 00:16:04,542 like we've detected there in the past. 371 00:16:04,667 --> 00:16:07,417 All right, great. Ah, let me get this going. 372 00:16:08,417 --> 00:16:10,500 There it is, got it. All right, both are... 373 00:16:10,582 --> 00:16:13,332 Both antennas and radios are functioning properly. 374 00:16:14,332 --> 00:16:15,707 Hey, Kaleb. 375 00:16:15,875 --> 00:16:17,792 This is the command center, do you copy? 376 00:16:17,875 --> 00:16:19,667 Go ahead. 377 00:16:19,832 --> 00:16:21,292 Start keeping an eye out, 378 00:16:21,375 --> 00:16:23,417 probably five to ten minutes before we see them. 379 00:16:23,542 --> 00:16:26,582 10-4. You guys will be the first to know. 380 00:16:48,542 --> 00:16:51,457 This may be them right here 'cause this looks like... 381 00:16:51,582 --> 00:16:53,042 would this be Roosevelt right here? 382 00:16:53,207 --> 00:16:55,917 No. So, Roosevelt Airport is about right here. 383 00:16:56,042 --> 00:16:58,082 Oh, then why are we not seeing their ADSB take off? 384 00:16:58,207 --> 00:16:59,417 I don't understand that. 385 00:16:59,542 --> 00:17:01,542 We're not getting them. 386 00:17:01,667 --> 00:17:05,333 So, we need to make sure that their, uh, ADSB is transponding. 387 00:17:05,458 --> 00:17:08,333 Even though the Cessna was approaching the ranch, 388 00:17:08,458 --> 00:17:11,040 it never showed up on the ADSB system. 389 00:17:11,165 --> 00:17:14,165 All the other air traffic in the area appeared on the map, 390 00:17:14,250 --> 00:17:16,000 and I could see with our antenna set up 391 00:17:16,165 --> 00:17:18,000 that she was still broadcasting. 392 00:17:18,165 --> 00:17:20,208 What could cause Kendra's plane 393 00:17:20,375 --> 00:17:22,040 not to show up on the ADSB like that? 394 00:17:22,165 --> 00:17:23,583 It makes no sense. 395 00:17:23,708 --> 00:17:26,000 - Why are we not... - We're not picking them up. 396 00:17:34,708 --> 00:17:36,000 Here. 397 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:39,416 Hey, Erik, this is Travis, do you copy? 398 00:17:42,041 --> 00:17:45,166 We-we are not seeing you on the ADSB. 399 00:17:49,041 --> 00:17:51,333 I wonder if Kaleb's gotten eyes on them. 400 00:17:51,416 --> 00:17:53,166 Yeah, call Kaleb and ask him. 401 00:17:56,583 --> 00:17:57,875 Go ahead. 402 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:00,000 Have you gotten eyes on the plane yet? 403 00:18:00,083 --> 00:18:02,083 10-4. 404 00:18:02,208 --> 00:18:05,041 It's, uh, going over the property now. 405 00:18:16,541 --> 00:18:18,458 What the heck is going on up there? 406 00:18:25,666 --> 00:18:29,333 So... why are we not picking her up? 407 00:18:30,708 --> 00:18:32,166 Hey, Erik, it's Bryant. 408 00:18:32,333 --> 00:18:36,333 We are still not picking you up on the flight tracker. 409 00:18:36,416 --> 00:18:40,666 Do you have any other traffic on the display right now? 410 00:18:40,791 --> 00:18:42,416 - Tell him yes. - Yes, we do. 411 00:18:42,541 --> 00:18:45,083 We are seeing all sorts of air traffic. 412 00:18:47,125 --> 00:18:49,083 But she's broadcasting on the ADSB. 413 00:18:49,208 --> 00:18:50,666 I'm watching her. 414 00:18:50,750 --> 00:18:52,666 This is her, right here with both antennas. 415 00:18:52,791 --> 00:18:54,250 She's broadcasting... 416 00:18:54,375 --> 00:18:56,174 - Yeah, I can see that. - The signal. 417 00:18:57,041 --> 00:18:58,351 I mean, this is picking up 418 00:18:58,375 --> 00:19:00,416 planes that are a hundred miles away 419 00:19:00,541 --> 00:19:02,268 - and 30,000 feet up. - That doesn't... 420 00:19:02,291 --> 00:19:03,875 That doesn't make any sense. 421 00:19:05,583 --> 00:19:08,333 I had antennas that were tuned to that frequency, 422 00:19:08,500 --> 00:19:11,208 and I could pick up the signal coming from the airplane, 423 00:19:11,333 --> 00:19:12,333 but for some reason 424 00:19:12,458 --> 00:19:14,708 her system isn't working. 425 00:19:14,833 --> 00:19:17,250 This is what's so weird about the ranch. 426 00:19:17,375 --> 00:19:19,458 One thing we do know is, 427 00:19:19,583 --> 00:19:23,916 uh, her system does record the ADSB data, 428 00:19:24,041 --> 00:19:26,375 and even though we will get a text file 429 00:19:26,500 --> 00:19:30,666 that we can reinterpret after the flight, but I wanted it now. 430 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:33,500 It wasn't ideal, 431 00:19:33,583 --> 00:19:36,833 but we knew that Erik was collecting GPS data 432 00:19:36,958 --> 00:19:40,791 and Kendra was recording the ADSB data. 433 00:19:40,916 --> 00:19:43,916 We hoped that would be enough to salvage some of this experiment. 434 00:19:44,041 --> 00:19:45,666 So should I still keep going over or...? 435 00:19:45,750 --> 00:19:46,791 Oh, yeah. 436 00:19:53,958 --> 00:19:55,791 Over the middle of the triangle. 437 00:19:55,875 --> 00:19:57,708 - All right. - Got it. 438 00:19:57,833 --> 00:20:00,166 Wait, is that... There they are. Right there, look. 439 00:20:00,250 --> 00:20:01,890 Thomas, in the middle. Look in the middle. 440 00:20:01,958 --> 00:20:03,226 - Look way up there. - Okay, yup. 441 00:20:03,250 --> 00:20:04,166 There they are, right there. 442 00:20:04,250 --> 00:20:06,375 November 8-4-7-1-7, 443 00:20:06,500 --> 00:20:08,833 could you tell us your pressure altitude, please? 444 00:20:12,375 --> 00:20:13,750 So, that's... 445 00:20:13,875 --> 00:20:15,833 Going up to 4,000 feet above ground level. 446 00:20:15,958 --> 00:20:17,166 Gosh, she's moving fast. 447 00:20:18,541 --> 00:20:20,708 Thomas, I got them coming in eastbound 448 00:20:20,875 --> 00:20:22,333 over the triangle again. 449 00:20:23,458 --> 00:20:25,178 While Erik and Kendra were continuing 450 00:20:25,250 --> 00:20:27,166 their pattern sweep above the triangle, 451 00:20:27,250 --> 00:20:29,333 all we could do back in the command center 452 00:20:29,458 --> 00:20:32,333 was just hope that they were getting data that we could use. 453 00:20:33,458 --> 00:20:36,250 Hopefully, the GPS trackers are the saving grace 454 00:20:36,375 --> 00:20:38,101 for this experiment, because we're not getting 455 00:20:38,125 --> 00:20:39,484 - what we want out of this. - Yeah, 456 00:20:39,541 --> 00:20:41,833 I'm hoping I can salvage something out of it. 457 00:20:41,958 --> 00:20:43,250 We have not had 458 00:20:43,375 --> 00:20:45,541 a single experiment out at the triangle, 459 00:20:45,666 --> 00:20:48,666 up in the air, that has gone per plan. 460 00:20:48,791 --> 00:20:51,208 So, what is it about the triangle 461 00:20:51,333 --> 00:20:53,833 and us trying to do experiments at the triangle 462 00:20:53,958 --> 00:20:56,875 that seems to trigger, you know, irregularities? 463 00:20:57,000 --> 00:20:58,333 It seems 464 00:20:58,458 --> 00:21:02,458 like someone or something, doesn't want us 465 00:21:02,541 --> 00:21:03,916 to collect data from the triangle. 466 00:21:05,375 --> 00:21:07,250 That's what it seems like. 467 00:21:07,375 --> 00:21:09,166 It's a pattern. 468 00:21:09,250 --> 00:21:10,791 It's certainly making it hard for us. 469 00:21:19,875 --> 00:21:21,416 Copy that. 470 00:21:27,166 --> 00:21:29,541 What happened? What the heck is that? 471 00:21:31,750 --> 00:21:35,291 What just suddenly popped up on... What? 472 00:21:35,375 --> 00:21:37,000 That 1.6. 473 00:21:37,125 --> 00:21:39,143 It was there for a couple seconds, now it's gone. 474 00:21:39,166 --> 00:21:40,166 It sure as heck was. 475 00:21:56,166 --> 00:21:58,250 What are you hearing? 476 00:22:06,458 --> 00:22:08,625 All right, what's going on? 477 00:22:08,708 --> 00:22:10,518 - We're not broadcasting anything like that. - All right. 478 00:22:10,541 --> 00:22:12,583 So, yeah, we're not broadcasting anything like that. 479 00:22:31,791 --> 00:22:36,000 Negative, Erik, there's, uh, nothing within 480 00:22:36,083 --> 00:22:39,500 40, 50 miles of the ranch. 481 00:22:42,250 --> 00:22:44,375 Is it another airplane? 482 00:22:53,083 --> 00:22:55,666 We were all totally mystified 483 00:22:55,750 --> 00:22:59,541 when both Erik and Kendra, the pilot, suddenly reported 484 00:22:59,666 --> 00:23:02,625 that some kind of shadow was tracking along with the Cessna. 485 00:23:02,708 --> 00:23:05,375 That's extremely strange. 486 00:23:05,500 --> 00:23:07,666 We checked our ADSB system 487 00:23:07,791 --> 00:23:10,166 and there was no other plane in the area. 488 00:23:10,333 --> 00:23:12,250 It immediately made me think of last year 489 00:23:12,375 --> 00:23:13,833 when Erik and I were 490 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:15,500 in the helicopter with Cameron Fugal 491 00:23:15,625 --> 00:23:17,916 over the triangle and something showed up 492 00:23:18,041 --> 00:23:19,958 on his radar just 50 feet beneath us. 493 00:23:22,750 --> 00:23:24,916 There's something underneath us according to the radar. 494 00:23:25,625 --> 00:23:28,166 That we later identified in camera footage 495 00:23:28,291 --> 00:23:30,958 as some kind of shadowy UAP. 496 00:23:31,791 --> 00:23:34,250 Kaleb, do you have eyes 497 00:23:34,375 --> 00:23:35,500 on a second aircraft? 498 00:23:35,625 --> 00:23:38,083 I am scanning now. 499 00:23:43,750 --> 00:23:46,583 - Look at that. - The 1.6 is going crazy. 500 00:23:46,708 --> 00:23:49,500 I don't know what that is. 501 00:23:50,833 --> 00:23:53,208 In the middle of all this chaos, once again 502 00:23:53,375 --> 00:23:56,791 the spectrum analyzer suddenly registered an RF radiation spike 503 00:23:56,875 --> 00:24:00,458 at a frequency of 1.6 gigahertz. 504 00:24:00,541 --> 00:24:02,541 Now, that's the same kind of energy spike 505 00:24:02,666 --> 00:24:06,833 we've seen over and over when UAPs have appeared in the past. 506 00:24:06,916 --> 00:24:10,083 And it happened at the same time Erik and Kendra were seeing 507 00:24:10,208 --> 00:24:12,750 the shadow of some sort of mysterious aircraft. 508 00:24:18,541 --> 00:24:19,683 What is that? 509 00:24:19,708 --> 00:24:21,833 What the heck? 510 00:24:22,875 --> 00:24:24,083 What? 511 00:24:25,208 --> 00:24:27,125 Why is that picking us up? 512 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:30,250 Uh... It's picking us all up. 513 00:24:30,375 --> 00:24:33,083 Just after the 1.6 gigahertz RF spike 514 00:24:33,208 --> 00:24:36,625 in the control room, we suddenly heard our own voices 515 00:24:36,708 --> 00:24:40,041 being broadcast and echoing back at us. 516 00:24:40,166 --> 00:24:42,875 Call them and tell them to give me the signal. 517 00:24:45,375 --> 00:24:48,333 Stand by, stand by for one moment, please. 518 00:24:48,458 --> 00:24:50,666 There's no way that should have been possible. 519 00:24:50,791 --> 00:24:52,541 It was like we were being recorded 520 00:24:52,666 --> 00:24:55,291 by someone or something in real time. 521 00:24:56,750 --> 00:24:58,875 Maybe it's in here. 522 00:25:06,750 --> 00:25:09,041 That is telling us that one of us 523 00:25:09,166 --> 00:25:14,041 is broadcasting at 1.623800 gigahertz. 524 00:25:14,166 --> 00:25:16,875 That is really odd. 525 00:25:18,041 --> 00:25:20,541 Erik and I have been having a conversation lately 526 00:25:20,708 --> 00:25:22,666 that we think that there could be 527 00:25:22,750 --> 00:25:25,500 an eavesdropping device here. 528 00:25:26,500 --> 00:25:29,833 Maybe we've been detecting it with the spectrum analyzers. 529 00:25:29,916 --> 00:25:31,500 And it... 530 00:25:31,625 --> 00:25:33,208 That might be it. 531 00:25:33,333 --> 00:25:34,708 Really? 532 00:25:34,875 --> 00:25:36,625 And so, somebody is turning it on and off 533 00:25:36,750 --> 00:25:39,125 which is why we're not seeing it all the time. 534 00:25:39,208 --> 00:25:41,041 Possibly. 535 00:25:41,166 --> 00:25:43,875 The strange energy spike along with the sound frequency 536 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:46,500 from the radio and our voices being 537 00:25:46,625 --> 00:25:49,500 broadcast and echoing back at us could mean 538 00:25:49,625 --> 00:25:51,750 that we are being surveilled on the ranch. 539 00:25:51,875 --> 00:25:55,041 But what I can't even begin to explain, 540 00:25:55,166 --> 00:25:57,458 especially given that Erik and Kendra saw 541 00:25:57,541 --> 00:25:59,500 what they believed to be a UAP, 542 00:25:59,666 --> 00:26:02,166 is what the source of that surveillance could be. 543 00:26:02,291 --> 00:26:04,500 I'm gonna walk outside and see if somehow it's on me 544 00:26:04,583 --> 00:26:06,250 and then maybe you guys take turns. 545 00:26:06,375 --> 00:26:09,625 So, you go out and talk. 546 00:26:09,708 --> 00:26:11,500 - Right. - We'll listen for you. 547 00:26:11,625 --> 00:26:14,208 - Okay. Yep. - And then we can send him out there with you. 548 00:26:16,333 --> 00:26:19,875 Hello, can you guys hear me? Hello, testing, testing... 549 00:26:20,041 --> 00:26:21,666 - Well, we can hear him. - Yeah. 550 00:26:21,750 --> 00:26:23,190 This has me really concerned. 551 00:26:23,250 --> 00:26:25,083 The fact that 552 00:26:25,208 --> 00:26:29,208 there is something or someone that could be listening to us 553 00:26:29,333 --> 00:26:33,000 and actually broadcasting our sound back to us again? 554 00:26:34,416 --> 00:26:35,791 Why is this happening? 555 00:26:35,875 --> 00:26:38,500 So, we could still hear you outside. 556 00:26:38,583 --> 00:26:40,000 Huh. 557 00:26:40,166 --> 00:26:42,333 Testing, testing, testing. 558 00:26:42,458 --> 00:26:45,916 Are you guys picking me up at all? Testing, testing. 559 00:26:46,041 --> 00:26:48,875 The most troubling thing for me 560 00:26:49,041 --> 00:26:51,916 was hearing Travis, Bryant 561 00:26:52,041 --> 00:26:54,875 and myself being broadcast over this frequency. 562 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:57,000 What in the crap does that mean? 563 00:26:57,083 --> 00:26:58,541 I've said before, 564 00:26:58,708 --> 00:27:00,833 is there not any safe place on the ranch? 565 00:27:00,958 --> 00:27:04,750 I would say now, is there any private place on the ranch? 566 00:27:07,625 --> 00:27:09,375 The signal stopped. 567 00:27:10,333 --> 00:27:12,666 - What have we played with? - What just happened? 568 00:27:12,791 --> 00:27:15,500 That was really odd. 569 00:27:15,625 --> 00:27:18,041 So, we are descending now... 570 00:27:31,583 --> 00:27:33,083 We were getting this interference 571 00:27:33,208 --> 00:27:35,125 on our, on our comms. 572 00:27:38,041 --> 00:27:40,000 Erik, I don't like that. 573 00:27:40,083 --> 00:27:43,916 I would advise that you come down, from a safety standpoint. 574 00:27:51,875 --> 00:27:54,208 Head on back to the airport from there. 575 00:28:02,875 --> 00:28:05,000 Well, they're done. That's it. 576 00:28:05,125 --> 00:28:06,484 They're headed back to the airport. 577 00:28:06,583 --> 00:28:08,000 Erik's still got the handheld 578 00:28:08,083 --> 00:28:09,833 if we want to talk to him on his way, 579 00:28:09,916 --> 00:28:11,768 but they'll be at the airport in five or ten minutes. 580 00:28:11,791 --> 00:28:13,458 All right. 581 00:28:13,583 --> 00:28:15,125 The main bit of data 582 00:28:15,208 --> 00:28:17,458 that we're really looking forward to 583 00:28:17,583 --> 00:28:20,000 is the GPS data that Erik and I put 584 00:28:20,125 --> 00:28:22,333 in the plane, it's collecting it real time 585 00:28:22,458 --> 00:28:24,875 on the computer so we know it's actually working. 586 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:27,708 And when he gets on the ground and we crunch that, 587 00:28:27,833 --> 00:28:31,666 we're gonna be able to create a GPS anomaly map 588 00:28:31,791 --> 00:28:34,041 over the entire ranch from a thousand feet 589 00:28:34,166 --> 00:28:36,208 to 6,000 feet above ground level. 590 00:28:37,916 --> 00:28:39,333 They'll be there before I get there, 591 00:28:39,416 --> 00:28:40,518 so I probably need to get going. 592 00:28:40,541 --> 00:28:42,125 - Okay. - Okay. 593 00:28:53,041 --> 00:28:54,708 - Well, hey, Jon. - Hey, hello. 594 00:28:54,875 --> 00:28:56,500 After meeting 595 00:28:56,666 --> 00:28:59,000 with Jon at McConkie, it was obvious that he needed 596 00:28:59,166 --> 00:29:01,166 to come to Skinwalker Ranch. 597 00:29:01,333 --> 00:29:02,500 His interpretation 598 00:29:02,666 --> 00:29:03,987 of the petroglyphs and pictographs 599 00:29:04,041 --> 00:29:06,250 that are up on the walls at McConkie Ranch 600 00:29:06,375 --> 00:29:09,708 could be really interesting to Erik and Travis. 601 00:29:09,875 --> 00:29:12,208 There's a lot of similarities in what we saw there 602 00:29:12,375 --> 00:29:14,833 and then there are some things here that 603 00:29:14,916 --> 00:29:16,333 I've never seen before and we hope 604 00:29:16,500 --> 00:29:17,791 you can give us some insight on. 605 00:29:17,875 --> 00:29:19,541 Right, I'd love to see them. 606 00:29:19,666 --> 00:29:22,125 Let's jump in the Ranger and head down. 607 00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:28,500 We've found a strange notable location 608 00:29:28,583 --> 00:29:29,958 on top of the mesa, 609 00:29:30,041 --> 00:29:31,708 and we are hoping to get his take 610 00:29:31,875 --> 00:29:33,041 on what it is. 611 00:29:33,166 --> 00:29:34,958 So, it is just right 612 00:29:35,041 --> 00:29:38,333 kind of at the top of this mesa, so it's a little bit of a hike. 613 00:29:39,250 --> 00:29:40,833 It's important that we explore 614 00:29:40,916 --> 00:29:42,333 what all these sites could mean 615 00:29:42,416 --> 00:29:46,416 in the bigger picture of the ranch. 616 00:29:47,375 --> 00:29:51,291 Yeah, so, this spot is some sort of mound. 617 00:29:53,916 --> 00:29:56,166 Absolutely amazing. 618 00:29:59,333 --> 00:30:01,250 The fact that there's all of these stones 619 00:30:01,375 --> 00:30:04,875 around what seems to be some sort of mound 620 00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:07,291 in the very middle. 621 00:30:07,375 --> 00:30:09,208 What do you think? 622 00:30:09,333 --> 00:30:12,916 I get the sense that this is something sacred here. 623 00:30:13,041 --> 00:30:15,041 That it was purpose-built. 624 00:30:15,166 --> 00:30:17,458 I was gonna make a suggestion. 625 00:30:17,541 --> 00:30:18,833 - Mm-hmm. - Um... 626 00:30:18,958 --> 00:30:22,916 In a lot of native cultures, your... 627 00:30:23,041 --> 00:30:26,666 you approach things from a clockwise direction. 628 00:30:26,791 --> 00:30:31,500 So, uh, what I'd like to do is approach this and go around 629 00:30:31,625 --> 00:30:33,166 in a clockwise manner 630 00:30:33,250 --> 00:30:35,125 - and take a look at things. - Okay. 631 00:30:35,208 --> 00:30:40,000 It's just a sign of respect on any type of sacred site 632 00:30:40,083 --> 00:30:43,166 and we just want to honor that here. 633 00:30:43,291 --> 00:30:47,083 If you go counterclockwise, it's kind of a negative thing. 634 00:30:47,208 --> 00:30:49,528 - Let's do that. - Yeah, why don't you lead the way? 635 00:30:52,208 --> 00:30:54,833 We got up to the top of the mesa there 636 00:30:54,958 --> 00:30:57,208 and to me it looked almost like 637 00:30:57,333 --> 00:30:59,916 a Stonehenge-type structure 638 00:31:00,041 --> 00:31:02,958 with these rocks in a circular pattern around there. 639 00:31:03,041 --> 00:31:06,375 Traditional beliefs with the Navajo are 640 00:31:06,541 --> 00:31:08,916 something that is brought up when you're a child. 641 00:31:09,041 --> 00:31:10,458 You grow up 642 00:31:10,583 --> 00:31:12,166 in that there is a certain way to act, 643 00:31:12,291 --> 00:31:13,958 there is a certain way to do things 644 00:31:14,083 --> 00:31:19,125 and so, you would start and go clockwise around it 645 00:31:19,250 --> 00:31:24,083 and come back to it to complete the circle before you entered. 646 00:31:24,208 --> 00:31:28,458 Um, that's just traditional... Most native tribes. 647 00:31:28,541 --> 00:31:31,166 So, I want to stop and show you something 648 00:31:31,333 --> 00:31:33,083 on this boulder. 649 00:31:33,208 --> 00:31:37,500 Maybe you want to step over and look at it here yourself 650 00:31:37,625 --> 00:31:41,125 for just a minute, but there were a few things... 651 00:31:42,083 --> 00:31:44,541 that seemed worth noting. 652 00:31:46,625 --> 00:31:47,958 What do you think of those? 653 00:31:48,083 --> 00:31:53,166 What I'm seeing here is four distinct lines 654 00:31:53,291 --> 00:31:55,791 that are carved into this rock 655 00:31:55,916 --> 00:31:58,291 and, uh, typically, 656 00:31:58,375 --> 00:32:00,708 they could be marking periods of time. 657 00:32:00,833 --> 00:32:02,541 We don't know what the time was. 658 00:32:02,708 --> 00:32:04,867 - And then... - And around the side there, you'll see... 659 00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:06,393 You see right where you're standing. 660 00:32:06,416 --> 00:32:08,375 - You see that little... - Yeah. 661 00:32:08,500 --> 00:32:12,041 We understand the erosion here, but that hole... 662 00:32:12,875 --> 00:32:15,333 - Right. - Yeah, so... 663 00:32:17,041 --> 00:32:18,708 That looks like it could be natural? 664 00:32:18,833 --> 00:32:23,000 Well, this one, uh, if you... if you sight through it, 665 00:32:23,083 --> 00:32:24,883 - it's right on the horizon. - Mm-hmm. 666 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:26,833 When you're looking at it. 667 00:32:26,916 --> 00:32:30,041 And during spring and fall, 668 00:32:30,166 --> 00:32:32,416 when the sun rises, 669 00:32:32,541 --> 00:32:34,750 it-it comes straight through this hole. 670 00:32:34,875 --> 00:32:36,708 Yeah. 671 00:32:36,875 --> 00:32:38,833 So, what do you believe this is? 672 00:32:38,916 --> 00:32:41,125 - This place? - This is, uh, 673 00:32:41,208 --> 00:32:43,125 is rather interesting. 674 00:32:43,250 --> 00:32:46,541 Uh, when I see mounds like this, 675 00:32:46,708 --> 00:32:49,833 it could be a holy place. 676 00:32:49,958 --> 00:32:52,666 I'm thinking here's a place 677 00:32:52,750 --> 00:32:54,625 where prayers were offered. 678 00:32:54,708 --> 00:32:56,083 A sacred place. 679 00:32:57,875 --> 00:32:59,625 I believe that this area was used 680 00:32:59,708 --> 00:33:02,958 as a talisman to keep the evil on that side. 681 00:33:11,875 --> 00:33:12,500 That's incredible. 682 00:33:12,666 --> 00:33:13,708 Hmm. 683 00:33:13,833 --> 00:33:14,833 I'm thinking there's 684 00:33:14,875 --> 00:33:16,833 definitely something here. 685 00:33:16,958 --> 00:33:19,291 And I-I just, I can... 686 00:33:19,375 --> 00:33:21,791 - I can feel it in my bones, you know? Mm-hmm. 687 00:33:21,916 --> 00:33:23,083 Yeah. 688 00:33:23,208 --> 00:33:24,433 Well, let's continue around 689 00:33:24,458 --> 00:33:26,666 - and complete the circle. - Okay. 690 00:33:26,750 --> 00:33:29,916 Looking at this place in its entirety, it struck me 691 00:33:30,041 --> 00:33:31,875 as a holy place. 692 00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:36,458 It could have been used as some kind of protection ceremony 693 00:33:36,541 --> 00:33:40,916 to keep whatever is historically here on Skinwalker Ranch 694 00:33:41,041 --> 00:33:44,375 from traveling over the mesa. 695 00:33:44,500 --> 00:33:48,791 And we have basically a spiral right here... 696 00:33:49,750 --> 00:33:54,125 that's been put into this ground here. 697 00:33:54,250 --> 00:33:57,750 And as we've seen today at McConkie 698 00:33:57,875 --> 00:33:59,708 and maybe here, that spiral 699 00:33:59,833 --> 00:34:01,416 is indicative of... 700 00:34:01,541 --> 00:34:04,708 A portal, a dimensional rift, an opening. 701 00:34:06,500 --> 00:34:09,708 The ancient people that populated this land 702 00:34:09,833 --> 00:34:11,666 knew of this place. 703 00:34:11,791 --> 00:34:15,458 There's evil there, there is something that can kill you, 704 00:34:15,583 --> 00:34:20,166 whether it's skinwalkers or some kind of malignant power. 705 00:34:20,333 --> 00:34:22,083 So, it doesn't strike me 706 00:34:22,208 --> 00:34:26,916 as unusual, this spiritual idea, this warding off 707 00:34:27,041 --> 00:34:28,750 of what could come that way. 708 00:34:28,875 --> 00:34:30,166 So, Jon, 709 00:34:30,291 --> 00:34:32,166 you've enlightened us so much 710 00:34:32,250 --> 00:34:34,333 and given us so much more to work on, 711 00:34:34,458 --> 00:34:36,375 and added greatly to our investigation, so... 712 00:34:36,500 --> 00:34:38,500 - Well, good, good. I'm glad. - Yeah. 713 00:34:38,625 --> 00:34:40,333 Thank you for having me out here. 714 00:34:40,458 --> 00:34:43,666 Thank you for coming and spending this much time with us. 715 00:34:43,791 --> 00:34:45,208 Yeah, let's head back down. 716 00:34:55,125 --> 00:34:56,708 We're going to take a look at 717 00:34:56,833 --> 00:35:00,958 the data that we got out of the experiment with the Cessna. 718 00:35:01,041 --> 00:35:03,083 I've got our own data. 719 00:35:03,208 --> 00:35:05,041 We also have some data from the pilot. 720 00:35:05,166 --> 00:35:06,708 Oh, good. 721 00:35:06,833 --> 00:35:08,512 The day after our Cessna experiment 722 00:35:08,583 --> 00:35:11,708 over the triangle, Erik has all the data sorted out. 723 00:35:11,833 --> 00:35:14,333 So, we're eager to see what he was able to collect, 724 00:35:14,500 --> 00:35:17,333 given all the bizarre things that happened during the flight. 725 00:35:17,416 --> 00:35:19,541 I'm glad that you had instruments on board 726 00:35:19,666 --> 00:35:21,027 because we got bubkes of data here. 727 00:35:21,083 --> 00:35:22,708 Right. 728 00:35:22,833 --> 00:35:25,000 Now, I know, during the course of the experiment, 729 00:35:25,125 --> 00:35:28,500 we could never pick her up on the radar. 730 00:35:28,625 --> 00:35:29,893 You're talking about the ADSB receiver? 731 00:35:29,916 --> 00:35:31,458 - Yeah. - Yeah. 732 00:35:31,541 --> 00:35:34,166 Yeah, we saw you leave Roosevelt and go back to Roosevelt, 733 00:35:34,291 --> 00:35:35,750 - but that's it. - Right after 734 00:35:35,875 --> 00:35:37,958 all the frustrations I know we had on the ground. 735 00:35:38,083 --> 00:35:41,125 I mean, the stuff that I got out of the actual data logging, 736 00:35:41,250 --> 00:35:42,833 it's really perplexing. 737 00:35:42,958 --> 00:35:44,458 Get this. 738 00:35:44,541 --> 00:35:46,083 These little guys, they receive signals 739 00:35:46,208 --> 00:35:47,791 directly from the satellites. 740 00:35:47,875 --> 00:35:49,208 They're GPS tracker units. 741 00:35:49,375 --> 00:35:51,916 I had five of these things on the flight. 742 00:35:52,041 --> 00:35:56,958 The data from four of the five was either absent or garbled. 743 00:35:57,041 --> 00:35:58,500 And get this. 744 00:35:58,583 --> 00:36:01,000 The one that worked, it's flawless. 745 00:36:01,083 --> 00:36:03,500 This is really suggestive 746 00:36:03,583 --> 00:36:05,833 that there is something locally going on here. 747 00:36:06,583 --> 00:36:07,833 Well, let's see it. 748 00:36:07,958 --> 00:36:10,166 Yeah, let me bring this up. 749 00:36:14,875 --> 00:36:17,375 So, here we are at the Roosevelt airstrip. 750 00:36:17,500 --> 00:36:19,208 And we did, just as planned, 751 00:36:19,375 --> 00:36:22,833 we did several altitudes making those S-turns 752 00:36:22,958 --> 00:36:25,791 and, uh, doing what we call the push broom pattern. 753 00:36:25,875 --> 00:36:28,500 So, you said that her system data-logged... 754 00:36:28,625 --> 00:36:30,518 Uh-huh. - uh, on board. So, what did it show? 755 00:36:30,541 --> 00:36:32,125 You're not going to believe this. 756 00:36:32,208 --> 00:36:35,541 So, this is what one of our units got. 757 00:36:35,666 --> 00:36:39,250 - And as I said, it looks pristine. - It really does. 758 00:36:39,375 --> 00:36:40,684 I don't see anything in that, 759 00:36:40,708 --> 00:36:42,333 that looks like anything jumped out of... 760 00:36:42,458 --> 00:36:43,791 I mean, yeah. 761 00:36:43,916 --> 00:36:45,516 Now, you guys are not gonna believe this. 762 00:36:45,541 --> 00:36:47,958 Let me show you what I received from Kendra. 763 00:36:51,500 --> 00:36:53,375 Uh... is that under the ranch? 764 00:36:53,541 --> 00:36:55,291 So, yeah. I need to explain this. 765 00:36:55,375 --> 00:36:56,500 Look at that. 766 00:36:56,625 --> 00:36:58,000 - Uh-huh. - That's interesting. 767 00:36:58,083 --> 00:36:59,416 Just as you saw 768 00:36:59,541 --> 00:37:02,125 with the yellow tracks from our trackers, 769 00:37:02,208 --> 00:37:04,625 uh, you see the flight out. 770 00:37:04,750 --> 00:37:06,458 - Mm-hmm. - Okay? 771 00:37:06,541 --> 00:37:08,291 She's taking this path. 772 00:37:08,416 --> 00:37:12,041 We execute one loop, if you will, over the property 773 00:37:12,166 --> 00:37:13,625 and then everything falls apart. 774 00:37:16,583 --> 00:37:19,666 Many of the altitude readings 775 00:37:19,791 --> 00:37:21,791 that she reported were 776 00:37:21,875 --> 00:37:25,625 far beneath the ground; in fact, beneath sea level. 777 00:37:28,458 --> 00:37:30,708 And not just beneath sea level, but 62 and a half 778 00:37:30,833 --> 00:37:32,333 miles below sea level. 779 00:37:37,375 --> 00:37:39,333 - 62 and a half miles? - Yes. 780 00:37:39,416 --> 00:37:43,583 62 and a half miles is the altitude above sea level 781 00:37:43,708 --> 00:37:47,791 that is considered the von Kármán line 782 00:37:47,875 --> 00:37:49,666 where you go from atmosphere to space. 783 00:37:50,708 --> 00:37:52,791 And that's exactly 62 and a half? 784 00:37:52,875 --> 00:37:54,791 And this is-is exactly 62 and a half miles. 785 00:37:54,875 --> 00:37:56,916 So, why did this choose 62 and a half miles 786 00:37:57,041 --> 00:37:58,291 under the ground? 787 00:37:58,375 --> 00:38:00,708 What do you get when you go there? 788 00:38:00,833 --> 00:38:03,208 That is weird, though. 789 00:38:03,375 --> 00:38:05,375 But this also is not the first time we've had 790 00:38:05,500 --> 00:38:08,750 - GPS telling instrumentation that it's underground. - Below ground. 791 00:38:08,875 --> 00:38:10,795 - I know. That's right. - That's the point. 792 00:38:10,833 --> 00:38:14,333 These blue cubes appear to be 793 00:38:14,458 --> 00:38:17,250 70 feet below the surface of the mesa. 794 00:38:17,375 --> 00:38:18,625 Two weeks ago, 795 00:38:18,750 --> 00:38:20,625 when we flew up into the mile-high zone 796 00:38:20,708 --> 00:38:22,791 above the triangle in Brandon's helicopter, 797 00:38:22,916 --> 00:38:26,916 our GPS data indicated that we flew into the mesa 798 00:38:27,041 --> 00:38:29,500 and traveled through it for several hundred feet. 799 00:38:29,666 --> 00:38:31,875 It looks like you smashed into the mesa. 800 00:38:32,041 --> 00:38:33,833 What the heck? 801 00:38:33,958 --> 00:38:38,166 Now, this new GPS data collected over the same zone 802 00:38:38,250 --> 00:38:40,291 above the triangle indicates 803 00:38:40,375 --> 00:38:43,041 that the Cessna went into and below the mesa 804 00:38:43,166 --> 00:38:47,375 the same distance that it is from sea level to outer space. 805 00:38:47,500 --> 00:38:49,916 What in the hell could that possibly mean? 806 00:38:50,041 --> 00:38:51,791 Given this, 807 00:38:51,916 --> 00:38:54,416 and especially the fact that it seems like 808 00:38:54,541 --> 00:38:56,041 we're being monitored out here, 809 00:38:56,208 --> 00:38:57,791 with that strange 810 00:38:57,875 --> 00:39:00,666 projecting of our voices remotely, 811 00:39:00,791 --> 00:39:04,541 it's definitely a security issue and so, 812 00:39:04,708 --> 00:39:06,351 I'm going to let Brandon know what's going on 813 00:39:06,375 --> 00:39:07,833 and I'm sure he's going to be curious 814 00:39:07,916 --> 00:39:09,833 to know what's going on with the data as well. 815 00:39:09,958 --> 00:39:13,333 You know, I'm trying to think of other ways to look 816 00:39:13,416 --> 00:39:15,916 at this anomaly other than just GPS systems. 817 00:39:16,041 --> 00:39:18,500 What if we got some telescopes 818 00:39:18,583 --> 00:39:21,166 and we looked through the anomaly, 819 00:39:21,333 --> 00:39:23,333 and if it is some sort 820 00:39:23,416 --> 00:39:25,083 of optical or gravitational anomaly, 821 00:39:25,208 --> 00:39:27,708 our atmosphere should change. 822 00:39:27,833 --> 00:39:30,208 And it should change in a way that it's not supposed to. 823 00:39:30,333 --> 00:39:32,833 And then, we would measure, "Hey, look, there's something, 824 00:39:32,958 --> 00:39:35,875 an anomaly there," and that would be data. 825 00:39:36,791 --> 00:39:39,416 Well, I'm going to go call Brandon. 826 00:39:39,541 --> 00:39:41,625 Yeah, I'll reach out to the astronomy guys. 827 00:39:42,583 --> 00:39:44,041 That's cool stuff, Erik. 828 00:39:46,208 --> 00:39:48,291 Previous researchers have commented 829 00:39:48,416 --> 00:39:51,208 that theirs is the impression that the ranch phenomenology 830 00:39:51,333 --> 00:39:53,583 responds, if not anticipates, 831 00:39:53,708 --> 00:39:55,625 the experiments that they have attempted, 832 00:39:55,708 --> 00:39:58,333 and we do see some support for that 833 00:39:58,458 --> 00:40:00,250 in our experience here over the years. 834 00:40:00,375 --> 00:40:02,500 Perhaps what we're seeing with the ADSB 835 00:40:02,583 --> 00:40:07,083 transponder data receiver is an example of that interference. 836 00:40:08,208 --> 00:40:12,625 There are so many GPS anomalies that we're seeing. 837 00:40:12,750 --> 00:40:17,750 There could be actually some advanced physics 838 00:40:17,875 --> 00:40:19,833 like you would see in science fiction, 839 00:40:19,958 --> 00:40:22,000 or like the stories of portals opening up. 840 00:40:22,125 --> 00:40:25,166 Now, if that's the case, we could be on the edge 841 00:40:25,291 --> 00:40:27,416 of some amazing discoveries. 842 00:40:28,500 --> 00:40:30,458 Even with continued events 843 00:40:30,541 --> 00:40:33,166 occurring at the triangle, we have setbacks. 844 00:40:33,250 --> 00:40:36,541 It seems like something continues to push back on us 845 00:40:36,666 --> 00:40:38,166 and create obstacles. 846 00:40:38,291 --> 00:40:42,583 I think that just makes the team more determined than ever 847 00:40:42,708 --> 00:40:46,625 to try to find out what is behind 848 00:40:46,750 --> 00:40:48,375 a lot of the strange activity 849 00:40:48,541 --> 00:40:50,583 on Skinwalker Ranch. 850 00:40:55,916 --> 00:40:58,291 We would like to look through the anomaly 851 00:40:58,416 --> 00:41:00,333 at an astronomical object 852 00:41:00,416 --> 00:41:02,333 and see if they seem obscured. 853 00:41:02,458 --> 00:41:05,375 Erik, the cows have scattered through the entire field. 854 00:41:05,541 --> 00:41:07,833 Something's definitely scared them. 855 00:41:07,916 --> 00:41:09,875 What the hell is that in the sky? 856 00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:12,059 - That thing is big and spherical. - Yes, it is. 857 00:41:12,083 --> 00:41:14,043 - It's got a black dot in the center of it. - What? 858 00:41:14,208 --> 00:41:16,541 There is something I'd like to get your eyes on. 859 00:41:16,708 --> 00:41:18,143 - Whoa! What was that? - There, there. 860 00:41:18,166 --> 00:41:20,291 That's the brightest thing in the sky. 65571

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