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Mr. M was a businessman. 5 00:00:17,619 --> 00:00:18,924 [Alpert] We just wanted to release a record 6 00:00:19,055 --> 00:00:20,448 and see what would happen. 7 00:00:20,578 --> 00:00:23,190 ♪ Give a little bit♪ 8 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:26,932 ♪ Give a little bit Of your love to me♪ 9 00:00:27,063 --> 00:00:29,413 [man] I remember ordering a million albums. 10 00:00:29,544 --> 00:00:31,415 It was a major success. 11 00:00:31,546 --> 00:00:33,809 ♪ Oh, give a little bit♪ 12 00:00:33,939 --> 00:00:37,552 ♪ Give a little bit Of my love to you♪ 13 00:00:37,682 --> 00:00:39,249 [Childs] This was the '60s. 14 00:00:39,380 --> 00:00:42,513 This was the civil rights period of time. This was Vietnam. 15 00:00:42,644 --> 00:00:46,430 ♪ There's so much That we need to share♪ 16 00:00:46,561 --> 00:00:48,867 ♪ So send a smile♪ 17 00:00:48,998 --> 00:00:51,870 ♪ And show you care♪ 18 00:00:52,001 --> 00:00:55,222 [Alpert] And here we were, you know, on Charlie Chaplin's lot. 19 00:00:55,352 --> 00:00:58,747 ♪ Give a little bit, Give a little bit♪ 20 00:00:58,877 --> 00:00:59,922 -Hello, there. -Hi. 21 00:01:00,052 --> 00:01:02,229 ♪ Of my life for you♪ 22 00:01:02,359 --> 00:01:04,927 [Hall] It was a really magical place to be. 23 00:01:05,057 --> 00:01:08,713 ♪ Give a little bit♪ 24 00:01:08,844 --> 00:01:12,500 ♪ Give a little bit Of your love to me♪ 25 00:01:12,630 --> 00:01:14,284 [Beeson] There was music everywhere. 26 00:01:14,415 --> 00:01:16,895 [Mendes] It was a great environment to make music. 27 00:01:17,026 --> 00:01:18,941 ♪ Give a little bit♪ 28 00:01:19,071 --> 00:01:21,726 ♪ Give a little bit of my life♪ 29 00:01:21,857 --> 00:01:24,120 [Friesen] They figured out how to make a fantasy world 30 00:01:24,251 --> 00:01:27,558 in a kind of Disney-esque way that was a record company. 31 00:01:27,689 --> 00:01:31,780 ♪ Now's the time that We need to share♪ 32 00:01:31,910 --> 00:01:34,522 ♪ So find yourself♪ 33 00:01:34,652 --> 00:01:38,656 ♪ We're on our way back home♪ 34 00:01:38,787 --> 00:01:41,485 [woman] I remember the logo on the insides of the records 35 00:01:41,616 --> 00:01:45,402 and just how important those albums were to me. 36 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:52,757 A&M's secret is, um... well, I can't tell you. 37 00:01:54,368 --> 00:01:57,109 [Alpert] What is that element that will give you goose bumps 38 00:01:57,240 --> 00:01:58,850 when you hear a song on the radio? 39 00:01:58,981 --> 00:02:00,852 ♪ Ooh, yeah, come along♪ 40 00:02:00,983 --> 00:02:03,290 [Childs] A&M changed the whole format. 41 00:02:03,420 --> 00:02:05,596 Believe in the music. Believe in the artists. 42 00:02:11,646 --> 00:02:13,909 We were the luckiest people, 43 00:02:14,039 --> 00:02:16,172 the artists that got to be on A&M. 44 00:02:16,303 --> 00:02:19,741 [Stevens] A&M were family. You know, it was my home. 45 00:02:19,871 --> 00:02:24,180 [Adler] It was like a mama/papa store looking like a giant. 46 00:02:24,311 --> 00:02:26,225 [man] They were real people. 47 00:02:26,356 --> 00:02:28,010 It wasn't like, you know, some sort of faceless corporation. 48 00:02:28,140 --> 00:02:29,881 This was Mr. A and Mr. M. 49 00:02:30,012 --> 00:02:31,970 ♪ Sing it tonight♪ 50 00:02:32,101 --> 00:02:36,627 [Hall] Herb and Jerry started A&M on a handshake, 51 00:02:36,758 --> 00:02:40,501 and they ended A&M with a handshake and a hug. 52 00:02:59,302 --> 00:03:02,958 [man] Gentlemen, let me know when you have speed. 53 00:03:03,088 --> 00:03:05,221 [man #2] Alright, do you need a sentence from Jerry 54 00:03:05,352 --> 00:03:08,267 to do that, or we okay? 55 00:03:08,398 --> 00:03:09,834 -We rolling, gentlemen? -Rolling. 56 00:03:14,099 --> 00:03:15,187 [man] Action. 57 00:03:15,318 --> 00:03:17,233 How official. 58 00:03:17,364 --> 00:03:20,671 So, you guys has met, I read, when Herb was in New York, 59 00:03:20,802 --> 00:03:22,064 maybe a little bit, and reconnect out here. 60 00:03:22,194 --> 00:03:24,240 Is that how it goes? 61 00:03:24,371 --> 00:03:26,982 I think this is one of the few times that Jerry and I disagree. 62 00:03:27,112 --> 00:03:30,855 You know, I always remember meeting Jerry in New York. 63 00:03:30,986 --> 00:03:33,728 For some reason, he remembers meeting me in Los Angeles. 64 00:03:33,858 --> 00:03:35,382 [both chuckle] 65 00:03:35,512 --> 00:03:39,037 ♪ Na, na, na, na, Na, na, na, na, na♪ 66 00:03:39,168 --> 00:03:42,606 ♪ Na, na, na, na, Na, na, na, na, na♪ 67 00:03:42,737 --> 00:03:46,262 ♪ Na, na, wa, wa, wa, wa♪ 68 00:03:46,393 --> 00:03:50,005 ♪ You turn me on Then you put me down♪ 69 00:03:50,135 --> 00:03:52,224 ♪ Can't you run♪ 70 00:03:52,355 --> 00:03:54,488 Well, Jerry and I met because of Ted Fagan, 71 00:03:54,618 --> 00:03:57,795 who was the head promotion man at Madison Records in New York, 72 00:03:57,926 --> 00:04:01,625 and Ted told me that he was the number one promotion man 73 00:04:01,756 --> 00:04:03,105 in the country at the time. 74 00:04:03,235 --> 00:04:04,933 -That's what I heard. -That's what he said. 75 00:04:05,063 --> 00:04:06,674 -Was that propaganda? -Did Fagan actually say that? 76 00:04:06,804 --> 00:04:08,458 -He actually said that. -Wow. 77 00:04:08,589 --> 00:04:10,852 -Did you pay him to say that? -[man] It's promotion. 78 00:04:10,982 --> 00:04:12,723 I can't believe... 79 00:04:12,854 --> 00:04:16,118 ♪ Oh, tell it to the birds Wa, wa, wa, wa♪ 80 00:04:16,248 --> 00:04:19,774 In '61 or '62, we used to go out at night, 81 00:04:19,904 --> 00:04:23,255 and he'd take his horn and play in piano bars 82 00:04:23,386 --> 00:04:25,083 up and down La Cienega Boulevard. 83 00:04:25,214 --> 00:04:28,086 ♪ Do you really think That that's...♪ 84 00:04:28,217 --> 00:04:32,351 And Herbie, all this time, used to make records for RCA. 85 00:04:32,482 --> 00:04:36,138 ♪ To a guy who loves you so♪ 86 00:04:36,268 --> 00:04:39,054 Late summer of '62, I made the suggestion, 87 00:04:39,184 --> 00:04:41,404 why don't you spend about 400 bucks on your record, 88 00:04:41,535 --> 00:04:43,319 I spent about 400 bucks on my record, 89 00:04:43,450 --> 00:04:45,321 and we'll make two releases and see where we go. 90 00:04:45,452 --> 00:04:47,149 We called it Carnival Records. 91 00:04:49,368 --> 00:04:51,109 And I was working on this record called 92 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:52,676 "Tell It To the Birds." 93 00:04:52,807 --> 00:04:55,026 ♪ Oh, tell it to the birds♪ 94 00:04:55,157 --> 00:04:56,680 ♪ Wa, wa, wa, wa♪ 95 00:04:56,811 --> 00:04:58,029 It became a moderate hit. 96 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:01,076 You know, we got, I think, $500 for it. 97 00:05:01,206 --> 00:05:04,079 -$750. -$750. [laughs] 98 00:05:04,209 --> 00:05:05,863 What happened to the other $250? 99 00:05:05,994 --> 00:05:06,908 [laughter] 100 00:05:07,038 --> 00:05:09,345 [crowd cheering] 101 00:05:09,476 --> 00:05:12,087 So with that money, we invested in "The Lonely Bull." 102 00:05:12,217 --> 00:05:22,140 ♪♪ 103 00:05:22,271 --> 00:05:31,933 ♪♪ 104 00:05:32,063 --> 00:05:33,804 I didn't think at the time we were starting 105 00:05:33,935 --> 00:05:35,545 a record company. 106 00:05:35,676 --> 00:05:37,895 We were just trying to put out a record like so many 107 00:05:38,026 --> 00:05:41,682 other companies were doing at that particular time in 1962. 108 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:45,120 There were a lot of companies just operating 109 00:05:45,250 --> 00:05:46,817 out of the trunks of their car, 110 00:05:46,948 --> 00:05:48,297 and ours was a little more sophisticated than that. 111 00:05:48,427 --> 00:05:50,647 We were operating out of my garage. 112 00:05:53,607 --> 00:05:55,478 One of the things we used to do together 113 00:05:55,609 --> 00:05:57,959 is go to the bullfights in Tijuana. 114 00:06:01,528 --> 00:06:03,747 I was kind of engrossed with-- 115 00:06:03,878 --> 00:06:07,534 There was like a brass band in the stands. 116 00:06:07,664 --> 00:06:09,710 There was something that gave me goose bumps 117 00:06:09,840 --> 00:06:11,102 when I heard this. 118 00:06:11,233 --> 00:06:14,192 And my impression of those afternoons 119 00:06:14,323 --> 00:06:15,846 fell into this recording of "The Lonely Bull." 120 00:06:20,242 --> 00:06:22,461 I was listening to Les Paul, 121 00:06:22,592 --> 00:06:24,551 and he layered his guitar many times over, 122 00:06:24,681 --> 00:06:25,769 and I was thinking, "Oh, that could be fun 123 00:06:25,900 --> 00:06:27,423 to try on the trumpet." 124 00:06:27,554 --> 00:06:30,339 And I had two tape machines, and I went from one tape machine 125 00:06:30,469 --> 00:06:32,559 to the other and start layering the trumpet and, bang, 126 00:06:32,689 --> 00:06:35,126 that was the genesis of the Tijuana Brass sound. 127 00:06:38,347 --> 00:06:40,131 We made the record, 128 00:06:40,262 --> 00:06:42,351 and when it came to sticking a label on it, 129 00:06:42,481 --> 00:06:44,440 we realized there were two other Carnival Records. 130 00:06:44,571 --> 00:06:46,007 So in a rush to get it out, 131 00:06:46,137 --> 00:06:48,139 we just used the initials of our names. 132 00:06:48,270 --> 00:06:51,099 And this became the first A&M record. 133 00:06:54,581 --> 00:06:57,148 "The Lonely Bull," it was A&M 101, 134 00:06:57,279 --> 00:06:58,802 and the record took off. 135 00:06:58,933 --> 00:07:00,412 We were getting calls from all over the world, 136 00:07:00,543 --> 00:07:01,762 all over the country. 137 00:07:01,892 --> 00:07:03,328 It was like a wonder. 138 00:07:03,459 --> 00:07:04,242 In like two, three days, it was happening. 139 00:07:07,550 --> 00:07:09,160 [announcer] The world hangs on the brink 140 00:07:09,291 --> 00:07:10,553 as Russia hesitates. 141 00:07:10,684 --> 00:07:13,251 The record was a major, major success. 142 00:07:13,382 --> 00:07:15,863 And the Cuban Missile Crisis was going on, 143 00:07:15,993 --> 00:07:18,517 and I was still in the Reserves. 144 00:07:18,648 --> 00:07:21,608 [Kennedy] It shall be the policy of this nation to regard 145 00:07:21,738 --> 00:07:24,393 any nuclear missile launched from Cuba 146 00:07:24,523 --> 00:07:26,874 as an attack by the Soviet Union. 147 00:07:27,004 --> 00:07:29,137 And I thought, "Oh, my God, 148 00:07:29,267 --> 00:07:31,443 I got a hit record, and I'm gonna have to go in the Army. 149 00:07:31,574 --> 00:07:33,010 We're going to war. This is happening." 150 00:07:33,141 --> 00:07:34,403 [announcer] Then the first break. 151 00:07:34,533 --> 00:07:36,361 The missiles go home. 152 00:07:36,492 --> 00:07:37,885 Thank God everybody went backwards. 153 00:07:38,015 --> 00:07:47,024 ♪♪ 154 00:07:47,155 --> 00:07:49,070 Gil Friesen and I were friends. 155 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:51,507 He was a promotion man for Capitol. 156 00:07:51,638 --> 00:07:53,857 We thought, well, if we could ever get to the point 157 00:07:53,988 --> 00:07:55,206 where we could hire another person, 158 00:07:55,337 --> 00:07:57,382 Gil would be that person. 159 00:07:57,513 --> 00:08:00,821 [Friesen] Herb and Jerry offered me a job 160 00:08:00,951 --> 00:08:04,259 to come do work for them at A&M. 161 00:08:04,389 --> 00:08:09,307 They offered me $250 a week as the general manager. 162 00:08:11,658 --> 00:08:14,748 There were just Herb and Jerry and Jolene Burton, 163 00:08:14,878 --> 00:08:19,970 who was the assistant secretary in those days to Jerry and Herb. 164 00:08:23,626 --> 00:08:26,237 Jerry got the idea to do an album that incorporated 165 00:08:26,368 --> 00:08:28,370 a lot of food titles. 166 00:08:28,500 --> 00:08:30,938 I came up with the idea of, let's do a concept album 167 00:08:31,068 --> 00:08:32,809 of Whipped Cream & Other Delights. 168 00:08:37,292 --> 00:08:39,860 The Whipped Cream & Other Delightsalbum cover 169 00:08:39,990 --> 00:08:42,384 lives in history. 170 00:08:42,514 --> 00:08:45,300 It had a sexual innuendo to it. 171 00:08:45,430 --> 00:08:54,526 ♪♪ 172 00:08:54,657 --> 00:08:56,964 We had an art director that we used, 173 00:08:57,094 --> 00:09:00,097 a guy named Peter Whorf, and had found this model, 174 00:09:00,228 --> 00:09:03,144 and he had photographed her. 175 00:09:03,274 --> 00:09:05,973 This cover, I remember seeing it in the studio, 176 00:09:06,103 --> 00:09:07,757 and I thought to myself, I said, 177 00:09:07,888 --> 00:09:11,718 "Man, this is maybe pushing it a little bit too much." 178 00:09:11,848 --> 00:09:14,503 It was a beautiful girl with whipped cream, and it worked. 179 00:09:14,633 --> 00:09:16,418 You know, whatever it was, it worked. 180 00:09:18,507 --> 00:09:20,814 Whipped Cream, the album, just took off. 181 00:09:21,597 --> 00:09:24,600 We had put out three Tijuana Brass albums, 182 00:09:24,731 --> 00:09:27,559 and it carried all those first three albums with it, 183 00:09:27,690 --> 00:09:29,561 so that at the end of the year, 184 00:09:29,692 --> 00:09:33,304 we'd sold maybe five or six million albums. 185 00:09:33,435 --> 00:09:38,353 It was a breakthrough not just for the small record label A&M. 186 00:09:38,483 --> 00:09:42,183 It was a breakthrough in the record business. 187 00:09:42,313 --> 00:09:44,489 From that, we got all the major shows-- 188 00:09:44,620 --> 00:09:48,363 Andy Williams, Ed Sullivan. 189 00:09:48,493 --> 00:09:50,408 When the door opens for you and it starts raining, 190 00:09:50,539 --> 00:09:51,932 it starts pouring. 191 00:09:52,062 --> 00:09:53,411 It was beautiful. 192 00:09:58,721 --> 00:10:01,115 With Herbie's success, all of a sudden, 193 00:10:01,245 --> 00:10:04,292 we now had the wherewithal to really have a company. 194 00:10:06,685 --> 00:10:08,165 We bought the Charlie Chaplin lot. 195 00:10:11,473 --> 00:10:14,606 We went in there with 33 employees, 196 00:10:14,737 --> 00:10:17,566 and it was like very spacious place, and my father said, 197 00:10:17,696 --> 00:10:19,350 "You think you guys need all this room?" [chuckles] 198 00:10:24,442 --> 00:10:26,227 My name is Victor. 199 00:10:26,357 --> 00:10:29,621 I am the guard here at the entrance to A&M. 200 00:10:29,752 --> 00:10:31,841 [Garcia] It was beautifully self-contained. 201 00:10:31,972 --> 00:10:38,326 We had our own recording studios, our own mix rooms. 202 00:10:38,456 --> 00:10:43,026 And you could ask for no more interesting vibe or heritage 203 00:10:43,157 --> 00:10:46,116 than being located on the Chaplin lot. 204 00:10:49,990 --> 00:10:52,731 We found that there was traces of Charlie Chaplin's 205 00:10:52,862 --> 00:10:55,647 old swimming pool underneath Studio A, 206 00:10:55,778 --> 00:10:58,085 which was really interesting, 'cause Charlie Chaplin's home 207 00:10:58,215 --> 00:11:00,827 was originally right up on Sunset and La Brea. 208 00:11:00,957 --> 00:11:03,481 And the studios were like his backyard. 209 00:11:06,615 --> 00:11:09,705 We never erased the Chaplin footprints. 210 00:11:09,836 --> 00:11:12,229 They were just always there. 211 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:14,797 There were definitely memories 212 00:11:14,928 --> 00:11:17,974 and ghosts floating around that lot. 213 00:11:20,803 --> 00:11:24,372 It had character. It had open space. 214 00:11:24,502 --> 00:11:25,590 It was an immediate campus. 215 00:11:30,813 --> 00:11:32,684 We hired a lot of people we admired, 216 00:11:32,815 --> 00:11:35,122 salespeople and promotion people and A&R people. 217 00:11:37,428 --> 00:11:39,300 So the lot gave us room to grow. 218 00:11:40,736 --> 00:11:43,391 And room to dream. 219 00:11:43,521 --> 00:11:46,002 ♪♪ 220 00:11:55,490 --> 00:12:00,582 ♪♪ 221 00:12:00,712 --> 00:12:02,758 [Childs] In those days-- remember, this was the '60s, 222 00:12:02,889 --> 00:12:06,414 this was the civil rights period of time. This was Vietnam. 223 00:12:10,287 --> 00:12:12,159 [Garcia] We were going through the '60s riots. 224 00:12:12,289 --> 00:12:14,378 There were marches on Washington, 225 00:12:14,509 --> 00:12:16,554 marches on the Sunset Strip. 226 00:12:18,339 --> 00:12:21,690 Summer of Love. All that was going on. 227 00:12:21,820 --> 00:12:26,042 And here we were, you know, on Charlie Chaplin's lot. 228 00:12:28,915 --> 00:12:30,742 When you walked on that lot, 229 00:12:30,873 --> 00:12:34,137 there was Jews, Gentiles, Protestants, Catholics. 230 00:12:34,268 --> 00:12:38,620 It was a multicultural company. 231 00:12:38,750 --> 00:12:42,450 And the fact that there was no other Black executive 232 00:12:42,580 --> 00:12:45,148 that worked for a pop company in the business at that time 233 00:12:45,279 --> 00:12:48,935 showed you what kind of people they were. 234 00:12:51,459 --> 00:12:55,376 [Garcia] Herb and Jerry were on Nixon's "unfriendly" list. 235 00:12:55,506 --> 00:12:58,292 So A&M almost had this kind of reputation 236 00:12:58,422 --> 00:13:01,251 for being a bit off the cuff 237 00:13:01,382 --> 00:13:03,514 and, of course, being very independent. 238 00:13:06,735 --> 00:13:10,173 Tonight, I'm proud to present a new look, 239 00:13:10,304 --> 00:13:13,829 a new sound, a new approach. 240 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:22,403 That certainly spells Sérgio Mendes & Brasil '66. 241 00:13:22,533 --> 00:13:26,450 ♪ Are bound to follow, but The root is still that note♪ 242 00:13:26,581 --> 00:13:30,280 ♪ Now this new one Is the consequence of the one♪ 243 00:13:30,411 --> 00:13:32,021 The thing that we established very early on 244 00:13:32,152 --> 00:13:34,937 is that there were all kinds of music that affected us. 245 00:13:35,068 --> 00:13:38,245 We responded to different great people. 246 00:13:38,375 --> 00:13:42,423 And I would say the first major artist we signed 247 00:13:42,553 --> 00:13:45,687 was Sérgio Mendes & Brasil '66. 248 00:13:45,817 --> 00:13:47,863 ♪ There's so many people who can Talk and talk and talk♪ 249 00:13:47,994 --> 00:13:51,475 ♪ And just say nothing Or nearly nothing♪ 250 00:13:51,606 --> 00:13:54,348 In the summer of '63, the Jobim album was one of 251 00:13:54,478 --> 00:13:55,697 my favorite albums, still is, of all time, 252 00:13:55,827 --> 00:13:57,960 and I loved Brasil '65. 253 00:13:58,091 --> 00:14:00,310 You know, it was just incredible bossa nova music. 254 00:14:00,441 --> 00:14:02,269 ♪ I will pour into That one note♪ 255 00:14:02,399 --> 00:14:04,358 ♪ All the love I feel for you♪ 256 00:14:04,488 --> 00:14:06,664 And as luck would have it, I was having breakfast 257 00:14:06,795 --> 00:14:09,406 with our Seattle distributor, and he said, 258 00:14:09,537 --> 00:14:12,583 "Capitol let Sérgio go, and they're doing a new band, 259 00:14:12,714 --> 00:14:14,237 and it's Brasil '66 now. 260 00:14:14,368 --> 00:14:16,239 He's got two new singers, 261 00:14:16,370 --> 00:14:17,762 and they're rehearsing at Geordie Hormel's." 262 00:14:17,893 --> 00:14:20,591 [scatting] 263 00:14:20,722 --> 00:14:26,380 ♪♪ 264 00:14:26,510 --> 00:14:29,513 We walked in the room and heard this incredible sound. 265 00:14:29,644 --> 00:14:30,949 It was terrific. 266 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:33,865 It was something we hadn't heard before. 267 00:14:33,996 --> 00:14:36,390 [Mendes] I call it the magic of the encounter, 268 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:37,782 and I liked them immediately. 269 00:14:37,913 --> 00:14:39,697 It was like, wow, here I'm meeting somebody 270 00:14:39,828 --> 00:14:42,700 that is starting a new company, very fresh. 271 00:14:42,831 --> 00:14:44,485 So it's a great opportunity for me. 272 00:14:44,615 --> 00:14:47,314 [scatting] 273 00:14:47,444 --> 00:14:54,625 ♪♪ 274 00:14:54,756 --> 00:14:56,671 ♪ He will find himself With no show♪ 275 00:14:56,801 --> 00:14:59,500 ♪ Better play the note You know♪ 276 00:14:59,630 --> 00:15:01,763 ♪ He will find himself With no show♪ 277 00:15:01,893 --> 00:15:03,547 ♪ Better play the note you♪ 278 00:15:04,983 --> 00:15:05,897 ♪ Know♪ 279 00:15:06,028 --> 00:15:07,464 And then Herbie said, 280 00:15:07,595 --> 00:15:08,813 "Look, not only will I produce you, 281 00:15:08,944 --> 00:15:10,728 but you'll come on the road with me." 282 00:15:10,859 --> 00:15:16,778 ♪♪ 283 00:15:16,908 --> 00:15:19,520 At that time, The Tijuana Brass was screaming hot, 284 00:15:19,650 --> 00:15:22,914 and we had them open the show for us. 285 00:15:23,045 --> 00:15:25,569 It was really an amazing experience 286 00:15:25,700 --> 00:15:28,659 because we had been playing in small clubs. 287 00:15:28,790 --> 00:15:32,010 We were playing to maybe 120 people a night, 288 00:15:32,141 --> 00:15:35,797 and all of a sudden, we were in front of 20,000 people. 289 00:15:38,887 --> 00:15:40,976 And then when they returned to L.A., I produced 290 00:15:41,107 --> 00:15:43,544 their first few records, and then, bang, it happened. 291 00:15:43,674 --> 00:15:44,893 It's called Herb Alpert Presents 292 00:15:45,023 --> 00:15:46,764 Sérgio Mendes & Brasil '66. 293 00:15:46,895 --> 00:15:50,116 It's on A&M, and it's a tremendous album. 294 00:15:50,246 --> 00:15:53,554 [Mendes] "Mas Que Nada" became my first hit. 295 00:15:53,684 --> 00:15:57,949 The first time a Brazilian song in Portuguese hit the charts. 296 00:15:59,125 --> 00:16:04,042 [Hall] I don't speak Portuguese, but when I heard this music, 297 00:16:04,173 --> 00:16:07,611 I wanted very much to sound authentic. 298 00:16:07,742 --> 00:16:10,048 And so I would write everything phonetically, 299 00:16:10,179 --> 00:16:14,401 and I really worked hard on the accent. 300 00:16:14,531 --> 00:16:16,185 [Mendes] I met Lani Hall in Chicago. 301 00:16:16,316 --> 00:16:19,057 I was putting together a group that became Brasil '66. 302 00:16:19,188 --> 00:16:22,452 Lani was the sound of Brasil '66. 303 00:16:22,583 --> 00:16:24,846 That's really Lani singing all those songs. 304 00:16:24,976 --> 00:16:27,370 Some of today's finest music 305 00:16:27,501 --> 00:16:30,460 is written by John Lennon and Paul McCartney, 306 00:16:30,591 --> 00:16:32,897 the Rodgers and Hart of Carnaby Street. 307 00:16:33,028 --> 00:16:34,638 And this is one of their latest. 308 00:16:34,769 --> 00:16:40,644 ♪♪ 309 00:16:40,775 --> 00:16:46,650 ♪♪ 310 00:16:46,781 --> 00:16:49,392 ♪ Day after day♪ 311 00:16:49,523 --> 00:16:52,134 ♪ Alone on a hill♪ 312 00:16:52,265 --> 00:16:57,792 ♪ The man with the foolish grin Is keeping perfectly still♪ 313 00:16:57,922 --> 00:17:00,751 ♪ But nobody wants to know him♪ 314 00:17:00,882 --> 00:17:02,449 ♪ They can see that He's just a fool♪ 315 00:17:02,579 --> 00:17:05,539 We were around Herb Alpert a lot 316 00:17:05,669 --> 00:17:07,018 because we opened the show, 317 00:17:07,149 --> 00:17:09,412 and then when we came back from the tour, 318 00:17:09,543 --> 00:17:11,022 he produced the albums. 319 00:17:11,153 --> 00:17:13,851 So all of a sudden, we were becoming friends. 320 00:17:13,982 --> 00:17:16,463 And then, of course, became something that we both 321 00:17:16,593 --> 00:17:18,856 didn't imagine it becoming. 322 00:17:18,987 --> 00:17:20,902 We both fell in love. 323 00:17:21,032 --> 00:17:26,516 ♪ Spinning 'round♪ 324 00:17:26,647 --> 00:17:28,910 He's just the most wonderful man I know. 325 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:31,869 I mean, he's, uh--he's bright, he's funny. 326 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:34,524 Handsome. He's very handsome. [laughs] 327 00:17:34,655 --> 00:17:37,919 And he's very creative. He's an original. 328 00:17:38,049 --> 00:17:40,704 He's a great trumpet player. [laughs] 329 00:17:40,835 --> 00:17:46,057 ♪ A thousand voices talking Perfectly loud♪ 330 00:17:46,188 --> 00:17:49,235 Lani has this little magical little something. 331 00:17:49,365 --> 00:17:51,933 She doesn't sing anything unless it's coming from a deep place. 332 00:17:52,063 --> 00:17:53,630 ♪ Seems to notice♪ 333 00:17:53,761 --> 00:17:56,764 ♪ But the fool on the hill♪ 334 00:17:56,894 --> 00:18:00,028 She's my muse and best friend. 335 00:18:00,158 --> 00:18:02,683 Best thing that ever happened in my life. 336 00:18:02,813 --> 00:18:07,949 ♪ In his head, see the world♪ 337 00:18:08,079 --> 00:18:11,996 ♪ Spinning 'round♪ 338 00:18:15,870 --> 00:18:17,567 [cheers and applause] 339 00:18:20,701 --> 00:18:21,832 That's "Alfie." 340 00:18:21,963 --> 00:18:23,834 -The song, not this. -[laughter] 341 00:18:23,965 --> 00:18:26,315 I've never really given this a name. 342 00:18:26,446 --> 00:18:29,666 Although at times I felt like calling it a couple things. 343 00:18:29,797 --> 00:18:32,582 The man who wrote "Alfie" and "What the World Needs Now" 344 00:18:32,713 --> 00:18:35,063 and so many other songs is probably one 345 00:18:35,193 --> 00:18:39,589 of the most important modern composers today. 346 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:41,069 Mr. Burt Bacharach. 347 00:18:41,199 --> 00:18:44,028 [applause] 348 00:18:49,207 --> 00:18:51,079 I knew Burt Bacharach from the early days. 349 00:18:51,209 --> 00:18:53,081 We worked out of the same office in the Brill Building 350 00:18:53,211 --> 00:18:55,039 in New York. 351 00:18:56,084 --> 00:18:58,129 And he became just absolutely huge 352 00:18:58,260 --> 00:18:59,914 as a songwriter in the early '60s. 353 00:19:00,044 --> 00:19:02,046 It was just one hit after another. 354 00:19:04,484 --> 00:19:08,749 In 1966, I got a phone call from Burt that he'd just done 355 00:19:08,879 --> 00:19:10,751 the soundtrack to Casino Royale, 356 00:19:10,881 --> 00:19:12,840 and would Herbie be interested in doing a song? 357 00:19:15,190 --> 00:19:16,757 Within a matter of a couple of days, 358 00:19:16,887 --> 00:19:18,672 got a dub over to Herbie, Herbie liked it, 359 00:19:18,802 --> 00:19:20,064 we recorded it. 360 00:19:20,195 --> 00:19:22,066 It brought me in contact with Burt again. 361 00:19:22,197 --> 00:19:24,460 [applause] 362 00:19:24,591 --> 00:19:32,338 ♪♪ 363 00:19:32,468 --> 00:19:34,122 I said, "Well, why don't you just come with us? 364 00:19:34,252 --> 00:19:36,298 We can provide a tremendous home for you. 365 00:19:36,429 --> 00:19:38,648 You can record whatever you like." 366 00:19:38,779 --> 00:19:40,694 I wasn't even looking for a record company. 367 00:19:40,824 --> 00:19:43,958 I mean, I just was a composer making records for other people. 368 00:19:44,088 --> 00:19:45,960 And Jerry said, 369 00:19:46,090 --> 00:19:49,659 "Why don't you take your songs and make an album?" 370 00:19:49,790 --> 00:19:51,400 So he did--came over 371 00:19:51,531 --> 00:19:55,230 and became just a magnificent presence in our lives. 372 00:19:55,361 --> 00:19:58,625 If it hadn't been for him-- you know, I needed a push. 373 00:19:58,755 --> 00:20:02,411 I needed somebody to say, "Why don't you do this?" 374 00:20:02,542 --> 00:20:06,110 Burt Bacharach was a huge addition to our whole culture. 375 00:20:06,241 --> 00:20:07,503 Burt Bacharach. 376 00:20:07,634 --> 00:20:09,679 [applause] 377 00:20:16,860 --> 00:20:18,209 I had the experience. 378 00:20:18,340 --> 00:20:20,255 I'd recorded for a major record company, 379 00:20:20,386 --> 00:20:22,257 and I was listening to a playback 380 00:20:22,388 --> 00:20:25,347 of one of the songs I did, and I wanted a little more bass, 381 00:20:25,478 --> 00:20:28,089 so I went over to the bass pot and lifted it up, 382 00:20:28,219 --> 00:20:30,352 and the engineer slapped my hand, 383 00:20:30,483 --> 00:20:33,224 and he said, "Don't ever touch that board again." 384 00:20:33,355 --> 00:20:34,791 You know, I looked at him, thinking to myself, 385 00:20:34,922 --> 00:20:37,141 "Man, isn't this music business 386 00:20:37,272 --> 00:20:40,144 supposed to revolve around the artist?" 387 00:20:40,275 --> 00:20:42,669 And I said if I ever had a chance to have my own company, 388 00:20:42,799 --> 00:20:44,888 it's gonna revolve around the artist. 389 00:20:46,107 --> 00:20:49,371 And you can't force a musician to play well. 390 00:20:49,502 --> 00:20:52,243 You can't force a writer to write great. 391 00:20:52,374 --> 00:20:56,204 And--But what you can do is you can create the environment 392 00:20:56,334 --> 00:20:59,468 for creative things to take place. 393 00:20:59,599 --> 00:21:02,950 And essentially, I mean, that's what A&M is all about. 394 00:21:03,907 --> 00:21:06,997 The key was we were an artist-friendly label, 395 00:21:07,128 --> 00:21:11,219 and certainly the fact that one of the partners was an artist 396 00:21:11,349 --> 00:21:15,179 was a bit of magic that no one else could claim. 397 00:21:18,008 --> 00:21:20,533 They were behind the artist all the way. 398 00:21:20,663 --> 00:21:24,580 And I think that's what made A&M so important and so different. 399 00:21:27,235 --> 00:21:29,890 Our competition in those days was fierce. 400 00:21:30,020 --> 00:21:32,675 A&M had a certain style-- believe in the music, 401 00:21:32,806 --> 00:21:34,198 believe in the artists. 402 00:21:36,418 --> 00:21:40,378 Every other company was a profit machine 403 00:21:40,509 --> 00:21:42,424 with responsibility to stockholders 404 00:21:42,555 --> 00:21:45,819 and was run strictly as a business. 405 00:21:45,949 --> 00:21:49,387 A&M was the only one that was run with the orientation 406 00:21:49,518 --> 00:21:53,087 of doing right by the artists first and making money second. 407 00:21:53,217 --> 00:21:55,742 One of the exciting things is watching 408 00:21:55,872 --> 00:21:57,700 people develop over a period of time 409 00:21:57,831 --> 00:22:01,791 and watching artists happen, you know? 410 00:22:01,922 --> 00:22:03,967 We realized we were good at what we were doing. 411 00:22:04,098 --> 00:22:07,275 We were gonna come at this business with respect for it 412 00:22:07,405 --> 00:22:11,409 and honor people as they honored us. 413 00:22:11,540 --> 00:22:14,761 If you were that way, you had a better chance, 414 00:22:14,891 --> 00:22:17,328 especially as a smaller company, 415 00:22:17,459 --> 00:22:21,419 to pull an artist in, to seduce them. 416 00:22:21,550 --> 00:22:25,032 It became the formula on how to run a record company 417 00:22:25,162 --> 00:22:27,425 and how to deal with artists. 418 00:22:27,556 --> 00:22:28,862 [Friesen] Herb Alpert and Jerry Moss 419 00:22:28,992 --> 00:22:30,559 are what make all of this work 420 00:22:30,690 --> 00:22:33,083 and what make all of this a very special experience. 421 00:22:33,214 --> 00:22:35,695 The A&M secret is people. 422 00:22:35,825 --> 00:22:37,174 So, that's how we competed. 423 00:22:37,305 --> 00:22:40,177 It was our treatment of people and our essence, 424 00:22:40,308 --> 00:22:43,920 so to speak, that made us different. 425 00:22:44,051 --> 00:22:47,054 And that's what we wanted to be. We wanted to be different. 426 00:22:48,490 --> 00:22:51,537 [guitar playing] 427 00:22:51,667 --> 00:22:55,279 1967, Jerry goes to the Monterey Pop Festival. 428 00:22:56,498 --> 00:22:59,849 We were basically the first rock-and-roll festival 429 00:22:59,980 --> 00:23:01,068 of that size. 430 00:23:01,198 --> 00:23:02,330 ♪ Rock me, baby♪ 431 00:23:02,460 --> 00:23:04,462 ♪ Rock me all night long♪ 432 00:23:04,593 --> 00:23:06,464 Jerry was in a different music business. 433 00:23:06,595 --> 00:23:08,205 The nomenclature at the time, I think, 434 00:23:08,336 --> 00:23:10,425 was M.O.R.-- middle-of-the-road music. 435 00:23:10,556 --> 00:23:12,558 But it was not radical. 436 00:23:12,688 --> 00:23:14,298 The Monterey Pop Festival was about as radical 437 00:23:14,429 --> 00:23:16,910 as music was at that point. 438 00:23:17,911 --> 00:23:19,956 We did not have a performer there, 439 00:23:20,087 --> 00:23:22,959 and that bothered me because I saw all this amazing music 440 00:23:23,090 --> 00:23:25,005 and we were not represented. 441 00:23:25,135 --> 00:23:28,225 I came home, and I told Herbie we should do something about it. 442 00:23:32,665 --> 00:23:34,318 That was the pivotal moment for him. 443 00:23:34,449 --> 00:23:36,886 He realized he needed to get into the rock business. 444 00:23:37,017 --> 00:23:38,453 You're in a business 445 00:23:38,584 --> 00:23:40,411 where the future kills the present. 446 00:23:40,542 --> 00:23:42,022 You have to have the next thing in order to keep going. 447 00:23:45,373 --> 00:23:49,203 The future of the label required us to do 448 00:23:49,333 --> 00:23:52,598 what Jerry saw clearly at the Monterey Pop Festival. 449 00:23:54,774 --> 00:23:58,647 So through a bunch of deals in England with Island, 450 00:23:58,778 --> 00:24:03,217 Regal Zonophone, Chrysalis, they got their rock acts. 451 00:24:04,348 --> 00:24:07,961 From that came an outpouring of some amazing music, 452 00:24:08,091 --> 00:24:10,790 and I realized that we had to have our own company 453 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:12,182 in Great Britain. 454 00:24:12,313 --> 00:24:13,880 We hired four people, 455 00:24:14,010 --> 00:24:16,099 and that was the beginning of A&M UK. 456 00:24:19,189 --> 00:24:22,062 In 1969, we got a tape in the mail, 457 00:24:22,192 --> 00:24:25,543 and it was a song called "Marjorine." 458 00:24:25,674 --> 00:24:29,939 ♪ Marjorine, where have you been?♪ 459 00:24:30,070 --> 00:24:32,463 ♪ Did you meet the Queen, Marjorine?♪ 460 00:24:32,594 --> 00:24:34,944 A&M was a small company. 461 00:24:35,075 --> 00:24:36,946 All of a sudden has Joe Cocker, and that's a blip 462 00:24:37,077 --> 00:24:38,034 that goes all the way to the top. 463 00:24:38,165 --> 00:24:40,080 ♪ Why did you go?♪ 464 00:24:40,210 --> 00:24:41,995 Joe Cocker is an amazing performer. 465 00:24:42,125 --> 00:24:43,431 It was impossible for him 466 00:24:43,561 --> 00:24:45,476 to sing out of time or out of tune. 467 00:24:45,607 --> 00:24:47,522 His voice was just that magnificent. 468 00:24:47,653 --> 00:24:49,829 ♪ Searching for me♪ 469 00:24:49,959 --> 00:24:53,267 ♪ Marjorine♪ 470 00:24:53,397 --> 00:24:56,357 And by '69, at Woodstock, we had Joe Cocker. 471 00:24:56,487 --> 00:24:59,839 ♪ What would you do♪ 472 00:24:59,969 --> 00:25:03,538 ♪ If I sang out of tune?♪ 473 00:25:03,669 --> 00:25:07,977 ♪ Would you stand up And walk out on me?♪ 474 00:25:08,108 --> 00:25:11,241 He's the real deal. Nobody could make Joe Cocker up. 475 00:25:11,372 --> 00:25:13,287 Nobody could, in the studio, say, 476 00:25:13,417 --> 00:25:15,071 "Joe, be a little wilder on that vocal." 477 00:25:15,202 --> 00:25:17,987 ♪ Oh, baby, I get by♪ 478 00:25:18,118 --> 00:25:20,903 ♪ With a little help From my friends♪ 479 00:25:21,034 --> 00:25:22,992 ♪ All I need is my buddies♪ 480 00:25:23,123 --> 00:25:26,430 ♪ Try with a little help From my friends♪ 481 00:25:26,561 --> 00:25:29,390 A&M was just marketing and promoting him 482 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:31,305 and presenting him to the world. 483 00:25:31,435 --> 00:25:33,524 It was kind of capturing lightning. 484 00:25:33,655 --> 00:25:37,180 ♪ Said I'm gonna make it For my friends♪ 485 00:25:37,311 --> 00:25:40,140 ♪ Ooh, ooh, ooh♪ 486 00:25:40,270 --> 00:25:42,185 I didn't really understand rock and roll 487 00:25:42,316 --> 00:25:44,840 until we signed Joe Cocker. 488 00:25:48,670 --> 00:25:50,933 And the Mad Dogs & Englishmen, 489 00:25:51,064 --> 00:25:53,414 they were rehearsing on the A&M sound stage. 490 00:25:53,544 --> 00:25:55,546 I sat on the sound stage 491 00:25:55,677 --> 00:25:58,898 and started listening to this thing that was like, "Wow." 492 00:25:59,028 --> 00:26:00,508 I mean, I was getting goose bumps. 493 00:26:00,638 --> 00:26:02,379 And, you know, Joe was doing his gyrations. 494 00:26:02,510 --> 00:26:03,903 I don't know. He thought he was a guitar player, 495 00:26:04,033 --> 00:26:05,165 whatever it was. 496 00:26:05,295 --> 00:26:06,427 It was great. 497 00:26:06,557 --> 00:26:09,125 ♪ Ride, Louise, ride♪ 498 00:26:12,085 --> 00:26:13,956 Eh? 499 00:26:14,087 --> 00:26:16,959 ♪ Ride, Louise, ride♪ 500 00:26:17,090 --> 00:26:20,310 ♪ Let me be your guide♪ 501 00:26:20,441 --> 00:26:25,359 ♪ Take you anyplace You wanna go♪ 502 00:26:25,489 --> 00:26:29,929 You think that Joe Cocker is that guy. 503 00:26:30,059 --> 00:26:31,495 Mad Dogs. 504 00:26:31,626 --> 00:26:34,411 He's very shy, and he's very quiet. 505 00:26:34,542 --> 00:26:37,284 ♪ And I'll show you All the things♪ 506 00:26:37,414 --> 00:26:40,243 It's something about that's deeper 507 00:26:40,374 --> 00:26:46,336 about the persona of the musician that's encompassed 508 00:26:46,467 --> 00:26:50,514 through the music that he expresses. 509 00:26:50,645 --> 00:26:53,343 Here's the person, here's the music, 510 00:26:53,474 --> 00:26:56,085 and there's something else about that person. 511 00:26:56,216 --> 00:26:59,393 If you really look hard, you'll see something 512 00:26:59,523 --> 00:27:02,788 come through, and that's like a secret. 513 00:27:06,661 --> 00:27:11,405 The really fun part was to see somebody just explode. 514 00:27:11,535 --> 00:27:13,799 It's those moments when you know that 515 00:27:13,929 --> 00:27:17,324 there was something historically happening. 516 00:27:17,454 --> 00:27:19,848 [cheers and applause] 517 00:27:21,415 --> 00:27:23,330 Joe was really hot. 518 00:27:23,460 --> 00:27:27,638 And then they decided to go on the road with this big group. 519 00:27:27,769 --> 00:27:30,380 ♪ Give me a ticket For an aeroplane♪ 520 00:27:33,383 --> 00:27:36,473 ♪ I ain't got time To take no fast train♪ 521 00:27:36,604 --> 00:27:39,607 One of A&M's first movies, Mad Dogs and Englishmen, 522 00:27:39,737 --> 00:27:43,698 directed by Pierre Adidge, an A&M film. 523 00:27:43,829 --> 00:27:46,222 This was a big project for A&M, 524 00:27:46,353 --> 00:27:49,225 a big way of exposing Joe Cocker, 525 00:27:49,356 --> 00:27:50,618 a big way of putting their foot into the film business. 526 00:27:50,748 --> 00:27:52,576 ♪ Listen to me, mister♪ 527 00:27:52,707 --> 00:27:54,709 ♪ Don't you hear me ravin'♪ 528 00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:58,321 ♪ For my baby once more?♪ 529 00:27:58,452 --> 00:28:01,107 ♪ Anyway♪ 530 00:28:01,237 --> 00:28:05,024 Joe was the kind of guy that he really worked 531 00:28:05,154 --> 00:28:06,721 and worked hard. 532 00:28:06,852 --> 00:28:09,028 ♪ I'm gonna find my way♪ 533 00:28:09,158 --> 00:28:12,640 It took a toll. 534 00:28:12,770 --> 00:28:14,468 -[man] Joe Cocker. -[woman] I can't believe it. 535 00:28:14,598 --> 00:28:17,297 It surprised me so much... 536 00:28:17,427 --> 00:28:19,125 [chuckles] 537 00:28:23,651 --> 00:28:28,047 Joe really had a problem with taking certain additives 538 00:28:28,177 --> 00:28:29,875 in those days, you know? 539 00:28:32,921 --> 00:28:35,228 [man] Jerry Moss was saying that to get you back on the road 540 00:28:35,358 --> 00:28:37,578 at first, it was more or less a hard thing to do. 541 00:28:37,708 --> 00:28:39,536 There was a lot of people sitting down having a talk 542 00:28:39,667 --> 00:28:41,321 about a loss of sessions. 543 00:28:41,451 --> 00:28:43,453 Was it a hard decision to make to go back after 544 00:28:43,584 --> 00:28:45,542 such a long period of being off? 545 00:28:45,673 --> 00:28:47,893 They got these worries that I was turning into an alcoholic. 546 00:28:48,023 --> 00:28:50,199 And they, you know, asked me to go into 547 00:28:50,330 --> 00:28:53,550 this hospital and get a check-out. 548 00:28:53,681 --> 00:28:57,511 And when the tour was over, he just slipped into the inkwell 549 00:28:57,641 --> 00:29:00,209 or went back to England, and he was nowhere around. 550 00:29:00,340 --> 00:29:02,646 ♪ Yeah, baby♪ 551 00:29:02,777 --> 00:29:05,084 The Mad Dogs and Englishmen album became a huge hit 552 00:29:05,214 --> 00:29:07,477 for us in 1970. 553 00:29:07,608 --> 00:29:09,566 ♪ I've got some whiskey♪ 554 00:29:09,697 --> 00:29:12,134 [audience cheering] 555 00:29:12,265 --> 00:29:14,136 Joe Cocker had had his apogee, 556 00:29:14,267 --> 00:29:17,487 and then there's this continuation of a career 557 00:29:17,618 --> 00:29:19,315 that could've gone south. 558 00:29:19,446 --> 00:29:21,578 ♪ Have some cocaine♪ 559 00:29:21,709 --> 00:29:24,016 [audience cheering] 560 00:29:24,146 --> 00:29:27,845 But you hear Joe's voice, and it's like no one has that voice, 561 00:29:27,976 --> 00:29:30,370 and no one's had that voice since him. 562 00:29:30,500 --> 00:29:35,244 ♪ I'm gonna keep moving, Darling♪ 563 00:29:39,901 --> 00:29:44,210 ♪ Till I'm back In your arms again♪ 564 00:29:44,340 --> 00:29:49,389 ♪♪ 565 00:29:49,519 --> 00:29:54,742 ♪♪ 566 00:29:54,872 --> 00:29:56,962 Let's talk about the good old days. 567 00:30:00,139 --> 00:30:06,580 In those days, we listened to music all day, all night. 568 00:30:06,710 --> 00:30:08,799 It was a thing about album covers. 569 00:30:08,930 --> 00:30:10,671 It was a toy. 570 00:30:10,801 --> 00:30:14,501 My job was to create things for kids to collect. 571 00:30:17,504 --> 00:30:19,897 The product we make, it's art. 572 00:30:20,028 --> 00:30:23,597 You don't sell it the same way you sell packaged goods. 573 00:30:26,904 --> 00:30:30,212 [Young] We didn't need marketing and strategies. 574 00:30:30,343 --> 00:30:32,867 We just had, "I know when I listen to this, 575 00:30:32,998 --> 00:30:35,261 someone's gonna like it." 576 00:30:37,959 --> 00:30:39,700 [Ayeroff] Words like "tonnage," which were loosely used 577 00:30:39,830 --> 00:30:42,007 all through the industry, were banned at A&M. 578 00:30:42,137 --> 00:30:44,835 We were not allowed to call a big ship on a record tonnage. 579 00:30:44,966 --> 00:30:46,576 This wasn't appropriate. 580 00:30:46,707 --> 00:30:49,275 This isn't the way you talk about art. 581 00:30:52,887 --> 00:30:55,977 I remember getting a call, I was in the office at the time, 582 00:30:56,108 --> 00:30:58,588 from our distributor in St. Louis, 583 00:30:58,719 --> 00:31:02,723 ordering 104,000 albums. 584 00:31:02,853 --> 00:31:04,638 I said, "Are you kidding?" 585 00:31:04,768 --> 00:31:06,640 He says, "No, and you got to get 'em to me quickly." 586 00:31:06,770 --> 00:31:08,250 I said, "You must really like this album." 587 00:31:08,381 --> 00:31:09,991 He said, "I never heard it." 588 00:31:10,122 --> 00:31:12,733 But he said--this is something that's stuck in my head, 589 00:31:12,863 --> 00:31:14,604 and it'll stay there forever. 590 00:31:14,735 --> 00:31:17,607 He said, "I'm selling a lot of tonnage." 591 00:31:17,738 --> 00:31:20,523 You know, it's the first time I thought of music as weight. 592 00:31:20,654 --> 00:31:22,569 [laughs] 593 00:31:24,049 --> 00:31:28,705 Hi. I'm Roland Young, graphics director of A&M Records. 594 00:31:28,836 --> 00:31:31,404 Everything you see coming out of here 595 00:31:31,534 --> 00:31:33,841 is my responsibility. 596 00:31:33,971 --> 00:31:36,539 After Monterey Pop, we were so impressed 597 00:31:36,670 --> 00:31:38,889 with what we'd seen up there 598 00:31:39,020 --> 00:31:40,891 that we took on the whole art department. 599 00:31:41,022 --> 00:31:42,371 We didn't have any artists up there, 600 00:31:42,502 --> 00:31:44,634 but we picked up their art department. 601 00:31:44,765 --> 00:31:49,944 Herb, Jerry, Gil, and I, we were in our 30s! 602 00:31:50,075 --> 00:31:54,731 Not knowing, but because of not knowing, it was the start 603 00:31:54,862 --> 00:31:57,299 of something that we've never done before. 604 00:31:57,430 --> 00:32:00,694 And Gil had the instinct. 605 00:32:02,087 --> 00:32:04,872 Gil was one of the first guys in the record business really 606 00:32:05,002 --> 00:32:08,745 to think about the advertising and album covers 607 00:32:08,876 --> 00:32:11,444 being an extension of what the artist did 608 00:32:11,574 --> 00:32:13,098 and not just a marketing tool. 609 00:32:14,795 --> 00:32:16,927 The amount of attention 610 00:32:17,058 --> 00:32:21,628 that A&M gave to its album covers, 611 00:32:21,758 --> 00:32:24,674 it will never be repeated again. 612 00:32:24,805 --> 00:32:27,677 Every artist had a personality, 613 00:32:27,808 --> 00:32:31,638 and what you tried to do was to absorb that. 614 00:32:31,768 --> 00:32:34,771 We were influenced by the music. 615 00:32:34,902 --> 00:32:39,820 But it also had to be incorporating the person. 616 00:32:40,603 --> 00:32:43,606 You were really following the artist. 617 00:32:45,434 --> 00:32:53,703 ♪♪ 618 00:32:53,834 --> 00:32:56,750 ♪ My lady D'Arbanville♪ 619 00:32:59,187 --> 00:33:02,059 ♪ Why do you sleep so still?♪ 620 00:33:02,190 --> 00:33:04,149 I grew up in the West End London, 621 00:33:04,279 --> 00:33:07,500 which is kind of like Broadway, so music and entertainment 622 00:33:07,630 --> 00:33:09,154 were surrounding me, and neon lights and everything. 623 00:33:09,284 --> 00:33:12,200 So it was a natural kind of step for me. 624 00:33:12,331 --> 00:33:16,900 And music was just a fast track to expressing myself. 625 00:33:17,031 --> 00:33:20,469 ♪ My lady D'Arbanville♪ 626 00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:23,255 Cat Stevens, he's a very magical artist. 627 00:33:23,385 --> 00:33:26,388 This is a guy who you sat down, and he did his album covers, 628 00:33:26,519 --> 00:33:27,650 and he worked with Roland. 629 00:33:27,781 --> 00:33:28,782 He loved Roland Young. 630 00:33:28,912 --> 00:33:30,349 And I would sit and watch. 631 00:33:30,479 --> 00:33:33,047 ♪ Why do you breathe so low?♪ 632 00:33:33,178 --> 00:33:35,615 All the albums were designed by me, 633 00:33:35,745 --> 00:33:38,052 drawn by me or painted or photographed by me. 634 00:33:38,183 --> 00:33:40,185 I was always in the art department. 635 00:33:41,621 --> 00:33:44,885 He wanted to be a graphic designer at one time. 636 00:33:45,015 --> 00:33:48,410 Thank God he decided to become a musician instead. 637 00:33:48,541 --> 00:33:51,065 ♪ I loved you, my lady♪ 638 00:33:51,196 --> 00:33:52,588 [Stevens] A&M was family. 639 00:33:52,719 --> 00:33:54,721 You know, it was my home in a way 640 00:33:54,851 --> 00:33:57,158 because it was such a nice team. 641 00:33:57,289 --> 00:33:59,508 Jerry, you know, was always, you know, 642 00:33:59,639 --> 00:34:02,816 "Hey, you know, whatever you want to do, it's up to you." 643 00:34:02,946 --> 00:34:05,079 I thought, "Wow, you know, fantastic." 644 00:34:05,210 --> 00:34:08,865 ♪ This rose will never die I loved you♪ 645 00:34:08,996 --> 00:34:10,998 They just let you do what you naturally want to do, 646 00:34:11,128 --> 00:34:13,043 you know, as far as music is concerned. 647 00:34:13,174 --> 00:34:15,089 They're not hung up with the business end of it. 648 00:34:15,220 --> 00:34:17,091 It's just the independent-- I mean, people who have 649 00:34:17,222 --> 00:34:19,876 good ideas are now coming to the front, which is great. 650 00:34:20,007 --> 00:34:22,052 You don't have to go through the big mill. 651 00:34:22,183 --> 00:34:25,578 ♪ La, la, la, la, la, la♪ 652 00:34:25,708 --> 00:34:30,670 ♪ La, la, la, la, la, la, la, La, la, la, la, la♪ 653 00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:34,630 Cat Stevens had his peak of success with us 654 00:34:34,761 --> 00:34:37,894 with Tea for the Tillerman and Teaser and the Firecat. 655 00:34:38,025 --> 00:34:40,506 Those two albums each sold five million each 656 00:34:40,636 --> 00:34:42,638 in the first year, and then just kept on going. 657 00:34:46,816 --> 00:34:49,993 ♪ Ooh, baby, baby, It's a wild world♪ 658 00:34:52,692 --> 00:34:54,433 [woman] You set yourself a really hectic schedule, 659 00:34:54,563 --> 00:34:56,565 a whole world tour. 660 00:34:56,696 --> 00:34:58,088 Doesn't this worry you that maybe it's a bit 661 00:34:58,219 --> 00:34:59,960 too much to take on? 662 00:35:00,090 --> 00:35:03,268 You know, that four months almost of solid touring, 663 00:35:03,398 --> 00:35:05,400 that it might sort of weaken you somewhat? 664 00:35:05,531 --> 00:35:07,402 No. 665 00:35:07,533 --> 00:35:14,627 ♪♪ 666 00:35:14,757 --> 00:35:15,845 Did you touch him, did you? 667 00:35:15,976 --> 00:35:17,369 -Yes! -What was it like? 668 00:35:17,499 --> 00:35:20,154 Beautiful! 669 00:35:20,285 --> 00:35:22,983 Fame creates a kind of separation 670 00:35:23,113 --> 00:35:25,681 between you and yourself, 671 00:35:25,812 --> 00:35:27,117 and you're creating an image 672 00:35:27,248 --> 00:35:29,903 which has to be bigger than life. 673 00:35:30,033 --> 00:35:32,035 I mean, I toured with Jimi Hendrix, you know, 674 00:35:32,166 --> 00:35:35,822 and you can imagine what kind of lifestyle we adapted to. 675 00:35:35,952 --> 00:35:38,564 He was an artist who was out there. 676 00:35:38,694 --> 00:35:41,044 You know, it was sex, drugs, and rock and roll. 677 00:35:41,175 --> 00:35:43,046 [Stevens] And then you find out, you know, a few years later, 678 00:35:43,177 --> 00:35:44,961 Jimi Hendrix dies, and you say, 679 00:35:45,092 --> 00:35:48,182 "Well, hang on. I don't want to do that." 680 00:35:48,313 --> 00:35:50,619 There is something very heavy 681 00:35:50,750 --> 00:35:54,536 about being as big a star as Cat Stevens. 682 00:35:54,667 --> 00:35:57,757 Around 1977, there was the sense 683 00:35:57,887 --> 00:36:00,934 that Cat Stevens was running too fast. 684 00:36:05,286 --> 00:36:07,114 I was trying to look after my future, 685 00:36:07,244 --> 00:36:08,724 but one of the big questions was, you know, 686 00:36:08,855 --> 00:36:10,944 "Well, what is the future?" 687 00:36:11,074 --> 00:36:13,381 ♪ Well, if you want to Sing out, sing out♪ 688 00:36:13,512 --> 00:36:15,905 And that's where I started looking deeper into my life 689 00:36:16,036 --> 00:36:17,951 and my identity and where I was going. 690 00:36:18,081 --> 00:36:21,041 ♪ 'Cause there's A million things to be♪ 691 00:36:21,171 --> 00:36:24,436 My music was based, most of it, on my real life 692 00:36:24,566 --> 00:36:28,178 and what I was searching for, and that resounded so strongly 693 00:36:28,309 --> 00:36:30,224 with so much of my generation. 694 00:36:30,355 --> 00:36:33,575 ♪ You can do what you want♪ 695 00:36:33,706 --> 00:36:35,751 ♪ The opportunity's on♪ 696 00:36:35,882 --> 00:36:37,797 It became important to them, 697 00:36:37,927 --> 00:36:39,668 so important to them as it was to me. 698 00:36:39,799 --> 00:36:43,237 I do realize that, let's say the public, 699 00:36:43,368 --> 00:36:45,108 when people listen to me, 700 00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:47,241 really get involved in what I'm saying, 701 00:36:47,372 --> 00:36:51,332 and they associate a musician or a lyricist or a poet 702 00:36:51,463 --> 00:36:53,900 can be like someone that you trust, 703 00:36:54,030 --> 00:36:57,773 and you follow their instincts, and you follow their ideas. 704 00:36:57,904 --> 00:37:00,689 ♪ Now, I've been happy lately♪ 705 00:37:00,820 --> 00:37:03,649 ♪ Thinking about The good things to come♪ 706 00:37:03,779 --> 00:37:06,956 ♪ And I believe it could be♪ 707 00:37:07,087 --> 00:37:10,264 For the majority of my kind of musical years, 708 00:37:10,395 --> 00:37:12,701 I was searching for my identity. 709 00:37:12,832 --> 00:37:15,791 ♪ Dreaming about The world as one♪ 710 00:37:15,922 --> 00:37:19,229 So therefore I had to go through a great learning curve, 711 00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:21,710 which didn't end for many, many, many years. 712 00:37:21,841 --> 00:37:23,756 ♪ I was on the edge Of darkness♪ 713 00:37:23,886 --> 00:37:27,194 Before I actually found out a little bit more about who I was. 714 00:37:27,324 --> 00:37:30,197 ♪ Well, peace train Take this country♪ 715 00:37:30,327 --> 00:37:31,981 ♪ Come take me home again♪ 716 00:37:35,115 --> 00:37:37,987 There's another major part 717 00:37:38,118 --> 00:37:42,035 which Jerry of A&M played in my life, 718 00:37:42,165 --> 00:37:44,777 and that was when I went over to his beach house 719 00:37:44,907 --> 00:37:48,084 one afternoon for lunch. 720 00:37:48,215 --> 00:37:51,174 I went for a swim, and that was the day 721 00:37:51,305 --> 00:37:52,828 I discovered that I was human. 722 00:37:58,834 --> 00:37:59,879 So, we were at the beach house, 723 00:38:00,009 --> 00:38:01,837 and we were talking with his manager 724 00:38:01,968 --> 00:38:04,187 and noticed that Steve was having some little difficulty 725 00:38:04,318 --> 00:38:06,146 in the water. 726 00:38:06,276 --> 00:38:08,931 I was not able to stay afloat. 727 00:38:09,062 --> 00:38:13,893 It was a point in time where I'd lost all my energy. 728 00:38:14,023 --> 00:38:18,985 And I could see the house on the beach. 729 00:38:19,115 --> 00:38:20,987 And I could not get any closer. 730 00:38:24,773 --> 00:38:26,209 This was gonna be death. 731 00:38:30,605 --> 00:38:33,869 That moment, I didn't have any hesitation 732 00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:36,698 in finding out what I believed. 733 00:38:36,829 --> 00:38:39,962 I called out to God, and I made a promise. 734 00:38:46,403 --> 00:38:49,102 This wave came and pushed me forward 735 00:38:49,232 --> 00:38:51,931 as if the tide had turned. 736 00:38:56,501 --> 00:39:00,374 And it's a miraculous thing I can't explain, 737 00:39:00,505 --> 00:39:03,551 because suddenly I was back, 738 00:39:03,682 --> 00:39:06,206 you know, and my life had been handed back to me. 739 00:39:08,077 --> 00:39:09,426 He came back in a little shaken, 740 00:39:09,557 --> 00:39:12,342 but we, you know, dried him off, and he was fine. 741 00:39:12,473 --> 00:39:16,390 Now, supposedly, he had an epiphany in the water 742 00:39:16,521 --> 00:39:20,481 and went home that night and had a meeting with his brother, 743 00:39:20,612 --> 00:39:22,527 who gave him a copy of the Koran, 744 00:39:22,657 --> 00:39:26,269 and he took that as a sign to do what he had to do. 745 00:39:28,620 --> 00:39:31,971 Jerry was very understanding when I came to the point 746 00:39:32,101 --> 00:39:34,016 where I said, "You know what, I want to just take a break." 747 00:39:34,147 --> 00:39:37,150 I think he understood my creative energy 748 00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:39,065 was no longer the same as it was before, 749 00:39:39,195 --> 00:39:41,154 so I needed that break. 750 00:39:43,591 --> 00:39:45,419 We didn't know it was gonna be 27 years, 751 00:39:45,550 --> 00:39:48,814 but, you know, that was a surprise. 752 00:39:51,556 --> 00:39:55,168 ♪ Oh, it's not time To make a change♪ 753 00:39:55,298 --> 00:39:58,258 ♪ Just relax, take it easy♪ 754 00:39:58,388 --> 00:40:00,216 ♪ You're still young♪ 755 00:40:00,347 --> 00:40:02,044 ♪ That's your fault♪ 756 00:40:02,175 --> 00:40:04,612 ♪ There's so much You have to know♪ 757 00:40:04,743 --> 00:40:08,181 I realized in the end that it's what you do in this world 758 00:40:08,311 --> 00:40:09,922 is what you take with you, 759 00:40:10,052 --> 00:40:13,403 is, you know, your belief and your good deeds. 760 00:40:13,534 --> 00:40:15,275 And I certainly hadn't piled up enough of those, 761 00:40:15,405 --> 00:40:16,668 as far as I was concerned. 762 00:40:16,798 --> 00:40:18,365 ♪ To become♪ 763 00:40:18,495 --> 00:40:21,063 ♪ When you found something♪ 764 00:40:21,194 --> 00:40:24,893 I think my fans, when I left, some of them understood 765 00:40:25,024 --> 00:40:28,418 because I'd--by God, I'd said it in my songs that, 766 00:40:28,549 --> 00:40:30,246 you know, I'm on the road to find it. 767 00:40:30,377 --> 00:40:32,901 You know, if I find out, well, come on. 768 00:40:33,032 --> 00:40:35,469 Time to--you know, to get off this machine 769 00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:37,166 and, you know, start living. 770 00:40:41,431 --> 00:40:44,652 ♪ How can I try to explain♪ 771 00:40:44,783 --> 00:40:47,960 But I think the big problem was that the media took 772 00:40:48,090 --> 00:40:51,616 a rather aggressive approach to my freedom of choice, 773 00:40:51,746 --> 00:40:55,141 and it was because of that, more than anything, 774 00:40:55,271 --> 00:40:57,404 I found impossible to live with. 775 00:40:57,534 --> 00:40:59,406 And so I just had to cut myself off 776 00:40:59,536 --> 00:41:01,495 because I couldn't endure that. 777 00:41:01,626 --> 00:41:07,457 ♪ There's a way, and I know That I have to go away♪ 778 00:41:07,588 --> 00:41:09,242 ♪ I know♪ 779 00:41:09,372 --> 00:41:12,419 That epiphany is what set him off 780 00:41:12,549 --> 00:41:16,118 on a spiritual journey that has probably satisfied him 781 00:41:16,249 --> 00:41:20,166 a lot more than his actual career did in music. 782 00:41:20,296 --> 00:41:22,429 Some people burn out. 783 00:41:22,559 --> 00:41:24,213 You know, they just fall out of the bottom. 784 00:41:24,344 --> 00:41:26,128 He kind of flew out of the top. 785 00:41:28,696 --> 00:41:31,307 Cat Stevens had a voice that compelled you 786 00:41:31,438 --> 00:41:33,309 to listen to a lyric, which is what I think 787 00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:35,137 a voice is all about. 788 00:41:35,268 --> 00:41:38,924 It certainly happened with The Carpenters. 789 00:41:39,054 --> 00:41:41,535 We got this tape, and I forget whether the tape 790 00:41:41,666 --> 00:41:45,147 was flung over the gate, but the tape made its way to Herb. 791 00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:52,546 ♪ Talking to myself And feeling old♪ 792 00:41:52,677 --> 00:41:54,983 I put on this tape, you know, not expecting anything. 793 00:41:55,114 --> 00:41:57,594 Had my eyes closed, and this voice came out. 794 00:41:57,725 --> 00:41:59,858 It felt like this chick was sitting right next to me. 795 00:41:59,988 --> 00:42:03,252 ♪ Hanging around♪ 796 00:42:03,383 --> 00:42:06,473 ♪ Nothing to do but frown♪ 797 00:42:06,603 --> 00:42:12,435 ♪ Rainy days and Mondays Always get me down♪ 798 00:42:12,566 --> 00:42:14,437 Karen had a presence in her voice 799 00:42:14,568 --> 00:42:16,570 that was just extraordinary. 800 00:42:16,701 --> 00:42:22,097 ♪ What I got they Used to call the blues♪ 801 00:42:22,228 --> 00:42:23,577 And the sound was beautiful. 802 00:42:23,708 --> 00:42:25,057 There was this passion. 803 00:42:25,187 --> 00:42:26,493 It was this type of music 804 00:42:26,623 --> 00:42:28,190 that came right through The Carpenters. 805 00:42:28,321 --> 00:42:29,539 It was love. 806 00:42:29,670 --> 00:42:32,455 ♪ Walking around♪ 807 00:42:32,586 --> 00:42:35,545 ♪ Some kind of lonely cloud♪ 808 00:42:35,676 --> 00:42:41,203 ♪ Rainy days and Mondays Always get me down♪ 809 00:42:41,334 --> 00:42:43,379 Herbie heard the tape, 810 00:42:43,510 --> 00:42:46,078 we signed the contract, we took a picture, 811 00:42:46,208 --> 00:42:47,732 and that was pretty much it. 812 00:42:47,862 --> 00:42:49,559 When we finally did get into A&M records, 813 00:42:49,690 --> 00:42:53,346 it took Herb Alpert, who was a musician, 814 00:42:53,476 --> 00:42:57,698 and he saw what he liked musically in it 815 00:42:57,829 --> 00:43:00,570 and didn't stop to think whether it would sell or not. 816 00:43:00,701 --> 00:43:02,485 He just took us because he dug it. 817 00:43:02,616 --> 00:43:05,140 ♪ Go while the going is good ♪ 818 00:43:05,271 --> 00:43:07,534 ♪ Knowing when to leave may be The smartest thing♪ 819 00:43:07,664 --> 00:43:09,449 Herbie said, "This is the kind of music 820 00:43:09,579 --> 00:43:12,017 I'm proud to have on A&M. 821 00:43:12,147 --> 00:43:15,063 ♪ Foolish as it seems♪ 822 00:43:15,194 --> 00:43:18,371 Guiding in our philosophy was figuring out artists 823 00:43:18,501 --> 00:43:20,547 that had something new to say, 824 00:43:20,677 --> 00:43:24,333 that were artists instead of entertainers or performers. 825 00:43:24,464 --> 00:43:26,031 And most other labels were concerned 826 00:43:26,161 --> 00:43:28,381 with finding the next Bob Dylan. 827 00:43:28,511 --> 00:43:31,732 ♪ I'm sure that no one can tell When our wishes and hopes♪ 828 00:43:31,863 --> 00:43:33,429 So when Herb signed the Carpenters, 829 00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:35,431 he wasn't signing the next anything. 830 00:43:35,562 --> 00:43:38,434 ♪ Sail when the wind Starts to blow♪ 831 00:43:38,565 --> 00:43:42,221 ♪ But like a fool, I don't know♪ 832 00:43:42,351 --> 00:43:47,574 ♪ When to♪ 833 00:43:47,704 --> 00:43:49,532 ♪ Leave♪ 834 00:43:49,663 --> 00:43:52,013 The one thing you noticed was that Karen 835 00:43:52,144 --> 00:43:54,276 was the band's drummer. 836 00:43:54,407 --> 00:43:56,757 If you'd ask Karen, I said, "What's your strength? 837 00:43:56,888 --> 00:43:59,716 What are you really, really, really, really good at?" 838 00:43:59,847 --> 00:44:02,110 She'd say, "I'm really a good drummer." 839 00:44:02,241 --> 00:44:05,113 I mean, this girl with this magical voice 840 00:44:05,244 --> 00:44:06,506 thought she was a drummer, you know. 841 00:44:12,512 --> 00:44:14,296 If you play drums, you're doing four things 842 00:44:14,427 --> 00:44:16,342 simultaneously anyway. 843 00:44:16,472 --> 00:44:18,170 Then you add a vocal into that, 844 00:44:18,300 --> 00:44:21,390 and she was all of 19, and she could do all of this. 845 00:44:26,265 --> 00:44:28,093 The Carpenters, "Close to You," take one. 846 00:44:31,748 --> 00:44:34,403 I call Hal David, and I asked him a question. 847 00:44:34,534 --> 00:44:36,188 I said, "Man, is there a song you find yourself 848 00:44:36,318 --> 00:44:37,885 whistling in the shower?" 849 00:44:38,016 --> 00:44:40,453 Well, three days later, he sent me "Close To You." 850 00:44:40,583 --> 00:44:47,199 ♪ Why do birds suddenly appear♪ 851 00:44:47,329 --> 00:44:49,592 And, you know, luck be have it, I gave it to The Carpenters, 852 00:44:49,723 --> 00:44:52,508 and, bang, that was the song. 853 00:44:52,639 --> 00:44:54,641 ♪ And just like me♪ 854 00:44:54,771 --> 00:44:57,557 [Carpenter] I remember saying, "To me, this is either gonna go 855 00:44:57,687 --> 00:45:00,908 to number one, or it's never going to see the light of day." 856 00:45:03,563 --> 00:45:08,220 ♪ On the day that you were born, The angels got together♪ 857 00:45:08,350 --> 00:45:12,877 ♪ And decided to create A dream come true♪ 858 00:45:13,007 --> 00:45:18,883 It debuted at 56, then went to 37, 14, then 7, 859 00:45:19,013 --> 00:45:22,190 then 3, then 1, and it stayed there for a month. 860 00:45:22,321 --> 00:45:28,501 ♪ That is why All the girls in town♪ 861 00:45:28,631 --> 00:45:30,720 ♪ Follow you♪ 862 00:45:30,851 --> 00:45:34,420 ♪ All around♪ 863 00:45:34,550 --> 00:45:37,031 ♪ Just like me♪ 864 00:45:37,162 --> 00:45:39,468 ♪ They long to be♪ 865 00:45:39,599 --> 00:45:42,689 ♪ Close to you♪ 866 00:45:42,819 --> 00:45:45,735 Once "Close To You" clicked, one person wrote, 867 00:45:45,866 --> 00:45:49,739 "The Carpenters didn't just hit, they exploded." 868 00:45:49,870 --> 00:45:52,177 We were headliners within a year and a half. 869 00:46:02,491 --> 00:46:05,364 Richard Carpenter was very instrumental 870 00:46:05,494 --> 00:46:07,192 in the success of The Carpenters. 871 00:46:07,322 --> 00:46:09,585 He understood a good song. 872 00:46:09,716 --> 00:46:11,718 He knew how to get the best out of Karen. 873 00:46:11,848 --> 00:46:13,676 He was very good at creating, you know, 874 00:46:13,807 --> 00:46:15,678 these vocal backgrounds that he wrote. 875 00:46:15,809 --> 00:46:17,767 So it was the combination of the two. 876 00:46:17,898 --> 00:46:19,465 It was The Carpenters. 877 00:46:19,595 --> 00:46:24,513 ♪ We go on hurting each other♪ 878 00:46:24,644 --> 00:46:29,301 ♪ We go on Hurting each other♪ 879 00:46:29,431 --> 00:46:33,958 ♪ Making each other cry Hurting each other♪ 880 00:46:34,088 --> 00:46:37,439 It's just an easy listening sound that appeals to all ages, 881 00:46:37,570 --> 00:46:39,659 not necessarily everybody, but to all ages. 882 00:46:39,789 --> 00:46:44,577 ♪ Can't we stop Hurting each other?♪ 883 00:46:44,707 --> 00:46:49,495 ♪ Gotta stop Hurting each other♪ 884 00:46:49,625 --> 00:46:51,540 ♪ Making each other cry♪ 885 00:46:51,671 --> 00:46:55,283 [applause] 886 00:46:55,414 --> 00:46:57,416 How about this? Fourteen gold records, 887 00:46:57,546 --> 00:46:59,331 20 million sales, and they keep singing 888 00:46:59,461 --> 00:47:01,159 "We've Only Just Begun." 889 00:47:01,289 --> 00:47:02,638 [laughter] 890 00:47:06,860 --> 00:47:09,732 Once the records hit, Richard and Karen 891 00:47:09,863 --> 00:47:12,387 became everybody's favorite musical act. 892 00:47:12,518 --> 00:47:16,348 ♪ We've only just begun♪ 893 00:47:16,478 --> 00:47:20,787 ♪ To live♪ 894 00:47:20,917 --> 00:47:26,619 ♪ White lace and promises♪ 895 00:47:26,749 --> 00:47:31,885 ♪ A kiss for luck, And we're on our way♪ 896 00:47:32,016 --> 00:47:34,627 ♪ We've only begun♪ 897 00:47:34,757 --> 00:47:38,848 ♪ Before the rising sun♪ 898 00:47:38,979 --> 00:47:43,244 ♪ We fly♪ 899 00:47:43,375 --> 00:47:48,902 ♪ So many roads to choose♪ 900 00:47:49,033 --> 00:47:54,342 ♪ We'll start out walkin' And learn to run♪ 901 00:47:54,473 --> 00:47:56,779 Lou Adler-- dear friend of mine-- 902 00:47:56,910 --> 00:48:01,306 we started together in the business in 1956, I think. 903 00:48:01,436 --> 00:48:03,569 Lou, at the time, wrote poetry. 904 00:48:03,699 --> 00:48:05,701 I put some music to his poetry, 905 00:48:05,832 --> 00:48:07,921 and we went into Specialty Records. 906 00:48:08,052 --> 00:48:10,532 This was like 1957, I think. 907 00:48:10,663 --> 00:48:12,404 Sonny Bono was the A&R man. 908 00:48:12,534 --> 00:48:15,233 And Sonny listened to our material and says, 909 00:48:15,363 --> 00:48:17,017 he says, "I'm serious, 910 00:48:17,148 --> 00:48:18,671 I think you guys ought to get out of the business. 911 00:48:18,801 --> 00:48:20,499 I mean, you guys don't have it." 912 00:48:20,629 --> 00:48:23,502 -[laughs] -That was encouraging. 913 00:48:24,590 --> 00:48:27,332 Everybody admired Lou, and it was time for him 914 00:48:27,462 --> 00:48:30,335 to take his label Ode Records somewhere. 915 00:48:30,465 --> 00:48:32,902 And we made a distribution deal. 916 00:48:33,033 --> 00:48:35,818 I couldn't deal with the corporate system. 917 00:48:35,949 --> 00:48:38,517 I was much more independent feeling. 918 00:48:38,647 --> 00:48:42,521 That's why the A&M fit was so good. 919 00:48:42,651 --> 00:48:46,568 Lou brought us Mary Clayton, Peggy Lipton, and Carole King. 920 00:48:49,615 --> 00:48:53,488 The Tapestryalbum was recorded in Studio B at A&M. 921 00:48:57,623 --> 00:48:58,928 Lou did a very clever thing. 922 00:48:59,059 --> 00:49:01,670 He recorded Carole King like it was a demo. 923 00:49:01,801 --> 00:49:03,585 He didn't overproduce it. 924 00:49:03,716 --> 00:49:07,328 It was very simple, just relying on great songs. 925 00:49:07,459 --> 00:49:14,030 ♪ Tonight, you're mine Completely♪ 926 00:49:14,161 --> 00:49:17,860 She'd come to the office at A&M, 927 00:49:17,991 --> 00:49:19,819 and we'd go over the songs. 928 00:49:19,949 --> 00:49:22,213 She'd play them on piano. 929 00:49:22,343 --> 00:49:25,520 ♪ So sweetly♪ 930 00:49:27,827 --> 00:49:30,656 Lou Adler, when I was making Tapestry, 931 00:49:30,786 --> 00:49:33,572 had the ability to just quietly make a suggestion, 932 00:49:33,702 --> 00:49:35,139 "Why don't you layer your voice?" 933 00:49:35,269 --> 00:49:39,404 And with each new layer, I heard new parts. 934 00:49:40,927 --> 00:49:48,717 ♪ But will you love me Tomorrow?♪ 935 00:49:51,894 --> 00:49:53,896 ♪ Is this a lasting♪ 936 00:49:54,027 --> 00:49:55,724 The drift and the buzz and everything 937 00:49:55,855 --> 00:49:58,379 came from the A&M lot. 938 00:49:58,510 --> 00:50:01,774 The buzz was this is a special record. 939 00:50:01,904 --> 00:50:08,476 ♪ Tonight with words unspoken♪ 940 00:50:08,607 --> 00:50:10,826 Tapestryhappens, and the next thing you know, 941 00:50:10,957 --> 00:50:12,698 she's the biggest artist in the world. 942 00:50:12,828 --> 00:50:16,528 Literally sells millions and millions and millions of albums. 943 00:50:16,658 --> 00:50:18,834 ♪ Only one♪ 944 00:50:24,013 --> 00:50:25,798 You know, my time at A&M 945 00:50:25,928 --> 00:50:29,018 was like chapter headings in a great book. 946 00:50:29,149 --> 00:50:31,195 You know, you get to the end of one chapter, 947 00:50:31,325 --> 00:50:34,676 and there's a great story that ends that chapter, 948 00:50:34,807 --> 00:50:38,114 and Tapestrywas one of those great stories. 949 00:50:38,245 --> 00:50:43,859 There was always a chapter to read, to experience at A&M. 950 00:50:48,821 --> 00:50:52,041 We were able to start the '70s with three major artists-- 951 00:50:52,172 --> 00:50:55,741 The Carpenters, Cat Stevens, and Carole King. 952 00:50:58,700 --> 00:51:00,398 And we were feeling pretty good as a label. 953 00:51:00,528 --> 00:51:02,095 We were feeling real good. 954 00:51:02,226 --> 00:51:04,184 As a matter of fact, people offered us a lot of money 955 00:51:04,315 --> 00:51:06,055 to sell the label and do all that thing. 956 00:51:06,186 --> 00:51:10,930 But we enjoyed doing what we were doing and... 957 00:51:11,060 --> 00:51:12,671 and making these records. 958 00:51:12,801 --> 00:51:15,804 This was fun. This was really great fun. 959 00:51:16,849 --> 00:51:19,504 We were at the right place at the right time, 960 00:51:19,634 --> 00:51:21,070 and we walked right through the door, 961 00:51:21,201 --> 00:51:23,856 and it was-- it was pretty beautiful. 962 00:51:23,986 --> 00:51:32,038 ♪♪ 963 00:51:32,168 --> 00:51:35,128 ♪ Peace Train sounding louder♪ 964 00:51:35,259 --> 00:51:38,000 ♪ Glide on the Peace Train♪ 965 00:51:38,131 --> 00:51:41,047 ♪ Ooh, ah, ee, ah, ooh♪ 966 00:51:41,177 --> 00:51:43,702 ♪ Come on now, Peace Train♪ 967 00:51:43,832 --> 00:51:47,053 ♪ Yes, Peace Train holy roller♪ 968 00:51:47,183 --> 00:51:49,882 ♪ Everyone jump up on The Peace Train♪ 969 00:51:50,012 --> 00:51:52,972 ♪ Ooh, ah, ee, ah, ooh♪ 970 00:51:53,102 --> 00:51:55,540 ♪ Come on now, Peace Train♪ 971 00:51:55,670 --> 00:51:58,847 ♪ Get your bags together♪ 972 00:51:58,978 --> 00:52:01,459 ♪ Go bring your Good friends, too♪ 973 00:52:01,589 --> 00:52:04,549 ♪ 'Cause it's getting nearer♪ 974 00:52:04,679 --> 00:52:07,073 ♪ It soon will be with you♪ 975 00:52:07,203 --> 00:52:10,163 ♪ Now come and join the living♪ 976 00:52:10,294 --> 00:52:12,818 ♪ It's not so far from you♪ 977 00:52:12,948 --> 00:52:16,125 ♪ And it's getting nearer♪ 978 00:52:16,256 --> 00:52:18,606 ♪ Soon it will all be true♪ 979 00:52:18,737 --> 00:52:21,566 ♪ Oh, Peace Train Sounding louder♪ 980 00:52:21,696 --> 00:52:24,569 ♪ Glide on the Peace Train♪ 981 00:52:24,699 --> 00:52:27,876 ♪ Ooh, ah, ee, ah, ooh♪ 982 00:52:28,007 --> 00:52:29,661 ♪ Come on now, Peace Train♪ 983 00:52:29,791 --> 00:52:32,054 ♪ Peace Train♪ 984 00:52:36,189 --> 00:52:38,974 ♪ Ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh♪ 985 00:52:41,847 --> 00:52:45,111 ♪ Now I've been crying lately♪ 986 00:52:45,241 --> 00:52:48,114 ♪ Thinkin' about The world as it is♪ 987 00:52:48,244 --> 00:52:51,596 ♪ Why must we go on hating?♪ 988 00:52:51,726 --> 00:52:54,033 ♪ Why can't we live in bliss?♪ 989 00:52:54,163 --> 00:52:57,210 ♪ 'Cause out on The edge of darkness♪ 990 00:52:57,341 --> 00:52:59,821 ♪ There rides a Peace Train♪ 991 00:52:59,952 --> 00:53:03,216 ♪ Oh, Peace Train Take this country♪ 992 00:53:03,347 --> 00:53:05,653 ♪ Come take me home again♪ 993 00:53:05,784 --> 00:53:08,743 ♪ Oh, Peace Train Sounding louder♪ 994 00:53:08,874 --> 00:53:11,833 ♪ Glide on the Peace Train♪ 995 00:53:11,964 --> 00:53:14,967 ♪ Ooh, ah, ee, ah, ooh♪ 996 00:53:15,097 --> 00:53:17,622 ♪ Come on now, Peace Train♪ 997 00:53:17,752 --> 00:53:20,668 ♪ Yes, Peace Train holy roller♪ 998 00:53:20,799 --> 00:53:23,149 ♪ Everyone jump up on The Peace Train♪ 999 00:53:23,279 --> 00:53:26,631 ♪ Ooh, ah, ee, ah, ooh♪ 1000 00:53:26,761 --> 00:53:28,633 ♪ Come on, come on, come on♪ 73792

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