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♪ Alright♪
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♪ Here we go again♪
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[man] Two guys in a garage
in Hollywood.
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[man #2] Mr. A was a musician.
Mr. M was a businessman.
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[Alpert] We just wanted
to release a record
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and see what would happen.
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♪ Give a little bit♪
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♪ Give a little bit
Of your love to me♪
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[man] I remember ordering
a million albums.
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It was a major success.
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♪ Oh, give a little bit♪
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♪ Give a little bit
Of my love to you♪
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[Childs] This was the '60s.
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This was the civil rights period
of time. This was Vietnam.
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♪ There's so much
That we need to share♪
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♪ So send a smile♪
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♪ And show you care♪
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[Alpert] And here we were, you
know, on Charlie Chaplin's lot.
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♪ Give a little bit,
Give a little bit♪
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-Hello, there.
-Hi.
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♪ Of my life for you♪
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[Hall] It was a really magical
place to be.
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♪ Give a little bit♪
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♪ Give a little bit
Of your love to me♪
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[Beeson]
There was music everywhere.
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[Mendes] It was a great
environment to make music.
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♪ Give a little bit♪
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♪ Give a little bit of my life♪
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[Friesen] They figured out
how to make a fantasy world
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in a kind of Disney-esque way
that was a record company.
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♪ Now's the time that
We need to share♪
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♪ So find yourself♪
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♪ We're on our way back home♪
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[woman] I remember the logo
on the insides of the records
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and just how important
those albums were to me.
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A&M's secret is, um...
well, I can't tell you.
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[Alpert] What is that element
that will give you goose bumps
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when you hear a song
on the radio?
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♪ Ooh, yeah, come along♪
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[Childs]
A&M changed the whole format.
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Believe in the music.
Believe in the artists.
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We were the luckiest people,
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the artists that
got to be on A&M.
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[Stevens] A&M were family.
You know, it was my home.
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[Adler] It was like a mama/papa
store looking like a giant.
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[man] They were real people.
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It wasn't like, you know, some
sort of faceless corporation.
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This was Mr. A and Mr. M.
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♪ Sing it tonight♪
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[Hall] Herb and Jerry
started A&M on a handshake,
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and they ended A&M
with a handshake and a hug.
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[man] Gentlemen, let me know
when you have speed.
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[man #2] Alright, do you need
a sentence from Jerry
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to do that, or we okay?
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-We rolling, gentlemen?
-Rolling.
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[man] Action.
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How official.
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So, you guys has met, I read,
when Herb was in New York,
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maybe a little bit,
and reconnect out here.
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Is that how it goes?
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I think this is one of the few
times that Jerry and I disagree.
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You know, I always remember
meeting Jerry in New York.
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For some reason, he remembers
meeting me in Los Angeles.
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[both chuckle]
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♪ Na, na, na, na,
Na, na, na, na, na♪
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♪ Na, na, na, na,
Na, na, na, na, na♪
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♪ Na, na, wa, wa, wa, wa♪
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♪ You turn me on
Then you put me down♪
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♪ Can't you run♪
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Well, Jerry and I met
because of Ted Fagan,
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who was the head promotion man
at Madison Records in New York,
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and Ted told me that he was
the number one promotion man
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in the country at the time.
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-That's what I heard.
-That's what he said.
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-Was that propaganda?
-Did Fagan actually say that?
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-He actually said that.
-Wow.
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-Did you pay him to say that?
-[man] It's promotion.
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I can't believe...
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♪ Oh, tell it to the birds
Wa, wa, wa, wa♪
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In '61 or '62,
we used to go out at night,
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and he'd take his horn
and play in piano bars
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up and down
La Cienega Boulevard.
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♪ Do you really think
That that's...♪
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And Herbie, all this time,
used to make records for RCA.
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♪ To a guy who loves you so♪
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Late summer of '62,
I made the suggestion,
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why don't you spend
about 400 bucks on your record,
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I spent about 400 bucks
on my record,
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and we'll make two releases
and see where we go.
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We called it
Carnival Records.
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And I was working on
this record called
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"Tell It To the Birds."
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♪ Oh, tell it to the birds♪
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♪ Wa, wa, wa, wa♪
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It became a moderate hit.
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You know, we got,
I think, $500 for it.
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-$750.
-$750. [laughs]
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What happened
to the other $250?
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[laughter]
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[crowd cheering]
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So with that money, we invested
in "The Lonely Bull."
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♪♪
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♪♪
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I didn't think at the time
we were starting
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a record company.
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We were just trying
to put out a record like so many
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other companies were doing
at that particular time in 1962.
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There were a lot of companies
just operating
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out of the trunks
of their car,
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and ours was a little more
sophisticated than that.
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We were operating
out of my garage.
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One of the things we used
to do together
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is go to the bullfights
in Tijuana.
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I was kind of engrossed with--
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There was like a brass band
in the stands.
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There was something
that gave me goose bumps
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when I heard this.
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And my impression
of those afternoons
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fell into this recording
of "The Lonely Bull."
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I was listening to Les Paul,
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and he layered his guitar
many times over,
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and I was thinking,
"Oh, that could be fun
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to try on the trumpet."
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And I had two tape machines,
and I went from one tape machine
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to the other and start layering
the trumpet and, bang,
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that was the genesis
of the Tijuana Brass sound.
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We made the record,
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and when it came
to sticking a label on it,
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we realized there were
two other Carnival Records.
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So in a rush to get it out,
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we just used the initials
of our names.
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And this became the first
A&M record.
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"The Lonely Bull,"
it was A&M 101,
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and the record took off.
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We were getting calls
from all over the world,
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all over the country.
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It was like a wonder.
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In like two, three days,
it was happening.
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[announcer]
The world hangs on the brink
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as Russia hesitates.
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The record was
a major, major success.
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And the Cuban Missile Crisis
was going on,
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and I was still
in the Reserves.
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[Kennedy] It shall be the policy
of this nation to regard
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any nuclear missile
launched from Cuba
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as an attack
by the Soviet Union.
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And I thought,
"Oh, my God,
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I got a hit record, and I'm
gonna have to go in the Army.
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We're going to war.
This is happening."
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[announcer]
Then the first break.
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The missiles go home.
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Thank God
everybody went backwards.
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♪♪
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Gil Friesen and I were friends.
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He was a promotion man
for Capitol.
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We thought, well, if we could
ever get to the point
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where we could hire
another person,
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Gil would be that person.
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[Friesen] Herb and Jerry
offered me a job
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to come do work for them at A&M.
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They offered me $250 a week
as the general manager.
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There were just Herb and Jerry
and Jolene Burton,
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who was the assistant secretary
in those days to Jerry and Herb.
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Jerry got the idea
to do an album that incorporated
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a lot of food titles.
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I came up with the idea of,
let's do a concept album
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of Whipped Cream
& Other Delights.
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The Whipped Cream
& Other Delightsalbum cover
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lives in history.
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It had a sexual innuendo to it.
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♪♪
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We had an art director
that we used,
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a guy named Peter Whorf,
and had found this model,
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and he had
photographed her.
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This cover, I remember seeing it
in the studio,
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and I thought to myself,
I said,
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"Man, this is maybe pushing it
a little bit too much."
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It was a beautiful girl with
whipped cream, and it worked.
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You know, whatever it was,
it worked.
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Whipped Cream,
the album, just took off.
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We had put out three
Tijuana Brass albums,
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and it carried all those
first three albums with it,
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so that at the end of the year,
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we'd sold maybe
five or six million albums.
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It was a breakthrough not just
for the small record label A&M.
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It was a breakthrough
in the record business.
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From that, we got
all the major shows--
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Andy Williams,
Ed Sullivan.
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When the door opens for you
and it starts raining,
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it starts pouring.
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It was beautiful.
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With Herbie's success,
all of a sudden,
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we now had the wherewithal
to really have a company.
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We bought
the Charlie Chaplin lot.
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We went in there
with 33 employees,
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and it was like very spacious
place, and my father said,
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"You think you guys
need all this room?" [chuckles]
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My name is Victor.
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I am the guard here
at the entrance to A&M.
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[Garcia] It was beautifully
self-contained.
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We had our own recording
studios, our own mix rooms.
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And you could ask for no more
interesting vibe or heritage
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than being located
on the Chaplin lot.
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We found that there was traces
of Charlie Chaplin's
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old swimming pool
underneath Studio A,
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which was really interesting,
'cause Charlie Chaplin's home
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was originally right up
on Sunset and La Brea.
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And the studios
were like his backyard.
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We never erased
the Chaplin footprints.
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They were just
always there.
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There were
definitely memories
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and ghosts
floating around that lot.
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It had character.
It had open space.
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It was an immediate campus.
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We hired a lot of people
we admired,
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salespeople and promotion people
and A&R people.
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So the lot
gave us room to grow.
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And room to dream.
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♪♪
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♪♪
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[Childs] In those days--
remember, this was the '60s,
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this was the civil rights period
of time. This was Vietnam.
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[Garcia] We were going through
the '60s riots.
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There were marches
on Washington,
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marches on the Sunset Strip.
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Summer of Love.
All that was going on.
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And here we were, you know,
on Charlie Chaplin's lot.
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When you walked on that lot,
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there was Jews, Gentiles,
Protestants, Catholics.
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It was a multicultural
company.
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And the fact that there was
no other Black executive
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that worked for a pop company
in the business at that time
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showed you what kind of people
they were.
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[Garcia] Herb and Jerry were
on Nixon's "unfriendly" list.
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So A&M almost had
this kind of reputation
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for being a bit off the cuff
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and, of course,
being very independent.
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Tonight, I'm proud to present
a new look,
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a new sound, a new approach.
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That certainly spells
Sérgio Mendes & Brasil '66.
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♪ Are bound to follow, but
The root is still that note♪
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♪ Now this new one
Is the consequence of the one♪
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The thing that we established
very early on
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is that there were all kinds
of music that affected us.
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We responded
to different great people.
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And I would say the first
major artist we signed
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was Sérgio Mendes
& Brasil '66.
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♪ There's so many people who can
Talk and talk and talk♪
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♪ And just say nothing
Or nearly nothing♪
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In the summer of '63,
the Jobim album was one of
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my favorite albums,
still is, of all time,
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and I loved Brasil '65.
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You know, it was just
incredible bossa nova music.
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♪ I will pour into
That one note♪
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♪ All the love I feel for you♪
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And as luck would have it,
I was having breakfast
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with our Seattle distributor,
and he said,
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"Capitol let Sérgio go,
and they're doing a new band,
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and it's Brasil '66 now.
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He's got two new singers,
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and they're rehearsing
at Geordie Hormel's."
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[scatting]
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♪♪
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We walked in the room
and heard this incredible sound.
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It was terrific.
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It was something
we hadn't heard before.
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[Mendes] I call it the magic
of the encounter,
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and I liked them immediately.
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It was like, wow,
here I'm meeting somebody
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that is starting
a new company, very fresh.
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So it's a great opportunity
for me.
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[scatting]
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♪♪
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♪ He will find himself
With no show♪
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♪ Better play the note
You know♪
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♪ He will find himself
With no show♪
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♪ Better play the note you♪
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♪ Know♪
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And then Herbie said,
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"Look, not only
will I produce you,
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but you'll come on the road
with me."
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♪♪
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At that time, The Tijuana Brass
was screaming hot,
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and we had them
open the show for us.
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It was really
an amazing experience
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because we had been playing
in small clubs.
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We were playing to maybe
120 people a night,
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and all of a sudden, we were
in front of 20,000 people.
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And then when they returned
to L.A., I produced
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their first few records,
and then, bang, it happened.
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It's called
Herb Alpert Presents
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Sérgio Mendes & Brasil '66.
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It's on A&M,
and it's a tremendous album.
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[Mendes] "Mas Que Nada" became
my first hit.
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The first time a Brazilian song
in Portuguese hit the charts.
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[Hall] I don't speak Portuguese,
but when I heard this music,
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I wanted very much
to sound authentic.
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And so I would write
everything phonetically,
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and I really worked hard
on the accent.
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[Mendes]
I met Lani Hall in Chicago.
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I was putting together a group
that became Brasil '66.
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Lani was the sound
of Brasil '66.
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That's really Lani singing
all those songs.
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Some of today's finest music
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is written by John Lennon
and Paul McCartney,
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the Rodgers and Hart
of Carnaby Street.
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And this is one of their latest.
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♪♪
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♪♪
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♪ Day after day♪
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♪ Alone on a hill♪
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♪ The man with the foolish grin
Is keeping perfectly still♪
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♪ But nobody wants to know him♪
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♪ They can see that
He's just a fool♪
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We were
around Herb Alpert a lot
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because we opened the show,
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and then when we came back
from the tour,
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he produced the albums.
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So all of a sudden,
we were becoming friends.
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And then, of course,
became something that we both
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didn't imagine it becoming.
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We both fell in love.
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♪ Spinning 'round♪
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He's just the most
wonderful man I know.
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I mean, he's, uh--he's bright,
he's funny.
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Handsome. He's very handsome.
[laughs]
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00:17:34,655 --> 00:17:37,919
And he's very creative.
He's an original.
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He's a great trumpet player.
[laughs]
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00:17:40,835 --> 00:17:46,057
♪ A thousand voices talking
Perfectly loud♪
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Lani has this little
magical little something.
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She doesn't sing anything unless
it's coming from a deep place.
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♪ Seems to notice♪
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00:17:53,761 --> 00:17:56,764
♪ But the fool on the hill♪
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She's my muse
and best friend.
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00:18:00,158 --> 00:18:02,683
Best thing that ever happened
in my life.
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00:18:02,813 --> 00:18:07,949
♪ In his head, see the world♪
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00:18:08,079 --> 00:18:11,996
♪ Spinning 'round♪
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[cheers and applause]
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That's "Alfie."
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-The song, not this.
-[laughter]
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00:18:23,965 --> 00:18:26,315
I've never really given
this a name.
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00:18:26,446 --> 00:18:29,666
Although at times I felt like
calling it a couple things.
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00:18:29,797 --> 00:18:32,582
The man who wrote "Alfie"
and "What the World Needs Now"
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00:18:32,713 --> 00:18:35,063
and so many other songs
is probably one
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of the most important
modern composers today.
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Mr. Burt Bacharach.
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00:18:41,199 --> 00:18:44,028
[applause]
348
00:18:49,207 --> 00:18:51,079
I knew Burt Bacharach
from the early days.
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00:18:51,209 --> 00:18:53,081
We worked out of the same office
in the Brill Building
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in New York.
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00:18:56,084 --> 00:18:58,129
And he became just
absolutely huge
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00:18:58,260 --> 00:18:59,914
as a songwriter
in the early '60s.
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00:19:00,044 --> 00:19:02,046
It was just one hit
after another.
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00:19:04,484 --> 00:19:08,749
In 1966, I got a phone call
from Burt that he'd just done
355
00:19:08,879 --> 00:19:10,751
the soundtrack
to Casino Royale,
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00:19:10,881 --> 00:19:12,840
and would Herbie be interested
in doing a song?
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00:19:15,190 --> 00:19:16,757
Within a matter
of a couple of days,
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00:19:16,887 --> 00:19:18,672
got a dub over to Herbie,
Herbie liked it,
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00:19:18,802 --> 00:19:20,064
we recorded it.
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00:19:20,195 --> 00:19:22,066
It brought me in contact
with Burt again.
361
00:19:22,197 --> 00:19:24,460
[applause]
362
00:19:24,591 --> 00:19:32,338
♪♪
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00:19:32,468 --> 00:19:34,122
I said, "Well, why don't you
just come with us?
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00:19:34,252 --> 00:19:36,298
We can provide
a tremendous home for you.
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00:19:36,429 --> 00:19:38,648
You can record
whatever you like."
366
00:19:38,779 --> 00:19:40,694
I wasn't even looking
for a record company.
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00:19:40,824 --> 00:19:43,958
I mean, I just was a composer
making records for other people.
368
00:19:44,088 --> 00:19:45,960
And Jerry said,
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00:19:46,090 --> 00:19:49,659
"Why don't you take your songs
and make an album?"
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00:19:49,790 --> 00:19:51,400
So he did--came over
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00:19:51,531 --> 00:19:55,230
and became just a magnificent
presence in our lives.
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00:19:55,361 --> 00:19:58,625
If it hadn't been for him--
you know, I needed a push.
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I needed somebody to say,
"Why don't you do this?"
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00:20:02,542 --> 00:20:06,110
Burt Bacharach was a huge
addition to our whole culture.
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00:20:06,241 --> 00:20:07,503
Burt Bacharach.
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00:20:07,634 --> 00:20:09,679
[applause]
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00:20:16,860 --> 00:20:18,209
I had the experience.
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00:20:18,340 --> 00:20:20,255
I'd recorded
for a major record company,
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00:20:20,386 --> 00:20:22,257
and I was listening
to a playback
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00:20:22,388 --> 00:20:25,347
of one of the songs I did,
and I wanted a little more bass,
381
00:20:25,478 --> 00:20:28,089
so I went over to the bass pot
and lifted it up,
382
00:20:28,219 --> 00:20:30,352
and the engineer
slapped my hand,
383
00:20:30,483 --> 00:20:33,224
and he said, "Don't ever touch
that board again."
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00:20:33,355 --> 00:20:34,791
You know, I looked at him,
thinking to myself,
385
00:20:34,922 --> 00:20:37,141
"Man, isn't this
music business
386
00:20:37,272 --> 00:20:40,144
supposed to revolve
around the artist?"
387
00:20:40,275 --> 00:20:42,669
And I said if I ever had
a chance to have my own company,
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00:20:42,799 --> 00:20:44,888
it's gonna revolve
around the artist.
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00:20:46,107 --> 00:20:49,371
And you can't force
a musician to play well.
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00:20:49,502 --> 00:20:52,243
You can't force a writer
to write great.
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00:20:52,374 --> 00:20:56,204
And--But what you can do is
you can create the environment
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00:20:56,334 --> 00:20:59,468
for creative things
to take place.
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00:20:59,599 --> 00:21:02,950
And essentially, I mean,
that's what A&M is all about.
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00:21:03,907 --> 00:21:06,997
The key was we were
an artist-friendly label,
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00:21:07,128 --> 00:21:11,219
and certainly the fact that one
of the partners was an artist
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00:21:11,349 --> 00:21:15,179
was a bit of magic
that no one else could claim.
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00:21:18,008 --> 00:21:20,533
They were behind
the artist all the way.
398
00:21:20,663 --> 00:21:24,580
And I think that's what made A&M
so important and so different.
399
00:21:27,235 --> 00:21:29,890
Our competition
in those days was fierce.
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00:21:30,020 --> 00:21:32,675
A&M had a certain style--
believe in the music,
401
00:21:32,806 --> 00:21:34,198
believe in the artists.
402
00:21:36,418 --> 00:21:40,378
Every other company
was a profit machine
403
00:21:40,509 --> 00:21:42,424
with responsibility
to stockholders
404
00:21:42,555 --> 00:21:45,819
and was run strictly
as a business.
405
00:21:45,949 --> 00:21:49,387
A&M was the only one that was
run with the orientation
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00:21:49,518 --> 00:21:53,087
of doing right by the artists
first and making money second.
407
00:21:53,217 --> 00:21:55,742
One of the exciting things
is watching
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00:21:55,872 --> 00:21:57,700
people develop
over a period of time
409
00:21:57,831 --> 00:22:01,791
and watching artists happen,
you know?
410
00:22:01,922 --> 00:22:03,967
We realized we were good
at what we were doing.
411
00:22:04,098 --> 00:22:07,275
We were gonna come at this
business with respect for it
412
00:22:07,405 --> 00:22:11,409
and honor people
as they honored us.
413
00:22:11,540 --> 00:22:14,761
If you were that way,
you had a better chance,
414
00:22:14,891 --> 00:22:17,328
especially as a smaller company,
415
00:22:17,459 --> 00:22:21,419
to pull an artist in,
to seduce them.
416
00:22:21,550 --> 00:22:25,032
It became the formula
on how to run a record company
417
00:22:25,162 --> 00:22:27,425
and how to deal with artists.
418
00:22:27,556 --> 00:22:28,862
[Friesen] Herb Alpert
and Jerry Moss
419
00:22:28,992 --> 00:22:30,559
are what make all of this work
420
00:22:30,690 --> 00:22:33,083
and what make all of this
a very special experience.
421
00:22:33,214 --> 00:22:35,695
The A&M secret is people.
422
00:22:35,825 --> 00:22:37,174
So, that's how
we competed.
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00:22:37,305 --> 00:22:40,177
It was our treatment of people
and our essence,
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00:22:40,308 --> 00:22:43,920
so to speak,
that made us different.
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00:22:44,051 --> 00:22:47,054
And that's what we wanted to be.
We wanted to be different.
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00:22:48,490 --> 00:22:51,537
[guitar playing]
427
00:22:51,667 --> 00:22:55,279
1967, Jerry goes to
the Monterey Pop Festival.
428
00:22:56,498 --> 00:22:59,849
We were basically
the first rock-and-roll festival
429
00:22:59,980 --> 00:23:01,068
of that size.
430
00:23:01,198 --> 00:23:02,330
♪ Rock me, baby♪
431
00:23:02,460 --> 00:23:04,462
♪ Rock me all night long♪
432
00:23:04,593 --> 00:23:06,464
Jerry was in
a different music business.
433
00:23:06,595 --> 00:23:08,205
The nomenclature at the time,
I think,
434
00:23:08,336 --> 00:23:10,425
was M.O.R.--
middle-of-the-road music.
435
00:23:10,556 --> 00:23:12,558
But it was not radical.
436
00:23:12,688 --> 00:23:14,298
The Monterey Pop Festival
was about as radical
437
00:23:14,429 --> 00:23:16,910
as music was at that point.
438
00:23:17,911 --> 00:23:19,956
We did not have
a performer there,
439
00:23:20,087 --> 00:23:22,959
and that bothered me because
I saw all this amazing music
440
00:23:23,090 --> 00:23:25,005
and we were not
represented.
441
00:23:25,135 --> 00:23:28,225
I came home, and I told Herbie
we should do something about it.
442
00:23:32,665 --> 00:23:34,318
That was the pivotal
moment for him.
443
00:23:34,449 --> 00:23:36,886
He realized he needed
to get into the rock business.
444
00:23:37,017 --> 00:23:38,453
You're in a business
445
00:23:38,584 --> 00:23:40,411
where the future kills
the present.
446
00:23:40,542 --> 00:23:42,022
You have to have the next thing
in order to keep going.
447
00:23:45,373 --> 00:23:49,203
The future of the label
required us to do
448
00:23:49,333 --> 00:23:52,598
what Jerry saw clearly
at the Monterey Pop Festival.
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00:23:54,774 --> 00:23:58,647
So through a bunch of deals
in England with Island,
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00:23:58,778 --> 00:24:03,217
Regal Zonophone, Chrysalis,
they got their rock acts.
451
00:24:04,348 --> 00:24:07,961
From that came an outpouring
of some amazing music,
452
00:24:08,091 --> 00:24:10,790
and I realized that we had
to have our own company
453
00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:12,182
in Great Britain.
454
00:24:12,313 --> 00:24:13,880
We hired four people,
455
00:24:14,010 --> 00:24:16,099
and that was
the beginning of A&M UK.
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00:24:19,189 --> 00:24:22,062
In 1969, we got a tape
in the mail,
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00:24:22,192 --> 00:24:25,543
and it was a song
called "Marjorine."
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00:24:25,674 --> 00:24:29,939
♪ Marjorine,
where have you been?♪
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00:24:30,070 --> 00:24:32,463
♪ Did you meet the Queen,
Marjorine?♪
460
00:24:32,594 --> 00:24:34,944
A&M was a small company.
461
00:24:35,075 --> 00:24:36,946
All of a sudden has Joe Cocker,
and that's a blip
462
00:24:37,077 --> 00:24:38,034
that goes all the way
to the top.
463
00:24:38,165 --> 00:24:40,080
♪ Why did you go?♪
464
00:24:40,210 --> 00:24:41,995
Joe Cocker
is an amazing performer.
465
00:24:42,125 --> 00:24:43,431
It was impossible for him
466
00:24:43,561 --> 00:24:45,476
to sing out of time
or out of tune.
467
00:24:45,607 --> 00:24:47,522
His voice was just
that magnificent.
468
00:24:47,653 --> 00:24:49,829
♪ Searching for me♪
469
00:24:49,959 --> 00:24:53,267
♪ Marjorine♪
470
00:24:53,397 --> 00:24:56,357
And by '69, at Woodstock,
we had Joe Cocker.
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00:24:56,487 --> 00:24:59,839
♪ What would you do♪
472
00:24:59,969 --> 00:25:03,538
♪ If I sang out of tune?♪
473
00:25:03,669 --> 00:25:07,977
♪ Would you stand up
And walk out on me?♪
474
00:25:08,108 --> 00:25:11,241
He's the real deal.
Nobody could make Joe Cocker up.
475
00:25:11,372 --> 00:25:13,287
Nobody could,
in the studio, say,
476
00:25:13,417 --> 00:25:15,071
"Joe, be a little wilder
on that vocal."
477
00:25:15,202 --> 00:25:17,987
♪ Oh, baby, I get by♪
478
00:25:18,118 --> 00:25:20,903
♪ With a little help
From my friends♪
479
00:25:21,034 --> 00:25:22,992
♪ All I need is my buddies♪
480
00:25:23,123 --> 00:25:26,430
♪ Try with a little help
From my friends♪
481
00:25:26,561 --> 00:25:29,390
A&M was just marketing
and promoting him
482
00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:31,305
and presenting him to the world.
483
00:25:31,435 --> 00:25:33,524
It was kind of
capturing lightning.
484
00:25:33,655 --> 00:25:37,180
♪ Said I'm gonna make it
For my friends♪
485
00:25:37,311 --> 00:25:40,140
♪ Ooh, ooh, ooh♪
486
00:25:40,270 --> 00:25:42,185
I didn't really understand
rock and roll
487
00:25:42,316 --> 00:25:44,840
until we signed Joe Cocker.
488
00:25:48,670 --> 00:25:50,933
And the Mad Dogs
& Englishmen,
489
00:25:51,064 --> 00:25:53,414
they were rehearsing
on the A&M sound stage.
490
00:25:53,544 --> 00:25:55,546
I sat on the sound stage
491
00:25:55,677 --> 00:25:58,898
and started listening to this
thing that was like, "Wow."
492
00:25:59,028 --> 00:26:00,508
I mean, I was getting
goose bumps.
493
00:26:00,638 --> 00:26:02,379
And, you know, Joe was
doing his gyrations.
494
00:26:02,510 --> 00:26:03,903
I don't know. He thought
he was a guitar player,
495
00:26:04,033 --> 00:26:05,165
whatever it was.
496
00:26:05,295 --> 00:26:06,427
It was great.
497
00:26:06,557 --> 00:26:09,125
♪ Ride, Louise, ride♪
498
00:26:12,085 --> 00:26:13,956
Eh?
499
00:26:14,087 --> 00:26:16,959
♪ Ride, Louise, ride♪
500
00:26:17,090 --> 00:26:20,310
♪ Let me be your guide♪
501
00:26:20,441 --> 00:26:25,359
♪ Take you anyplace
You wanna go♪
502
00:26:25,489 --> 00:26:29,929
You think that Joe Cocker
is that guy.
503
00:26:30,059 --> 00:26:31,495
Mad Dogs.
504
00:26:31,626 --> 00:26:34,411
He's very shy,
and he's very quiet.
505
00:26:34,542 --> 00:26:37,284
♪ And I'll show you
All the things♪
506
00:26:37,414 --> 00:26:40,243
It's something about
that's deeper
507
00:26:40,374 --> 00:26:46,336
about the persona of
the musician that's encompassed
508
00:26:46,467 --> 00:26:50,514
through the music
that he expresses.
509
00:26:50,645 --> 00:26:53,343
Here's the person,
here's the music,
510
00:26:53,474 --> 00:26:56,085
and there's something else
about that person.
511
00:26:56,216 --> 00:26:59,393
If you really look hard,
you'll see something
512
00:26:59,523 --> 00:27:02,788
come through,
and that's like a secret.
513
00:27:06,661 --> 00:27:11,405
The really fun part was
to see somebody just explode.
514
00:27:11,535 --> 00:27:13,799
It's those moments
when you know that
515
00:27:13,929 --> 00:27:17,324
there was something
historically happening.
516
00:27:17,454 --> 00:27:19,848
[cheers and applause]
517
00:27:21,415 --> 00:27:23,330
Joe was really hot.
518
00:27:23,460 --> 00:27:27,638
And then they decided to go
on the road with this big group.
519
00:27:27,769 --> 00:27:30,380
♪ Give me a ticket
For an aeroplane♪
520
00:27:33,383 --> 00:27:36,473
♪ I ain't got time
To take no fast train♪
521
00:27:36,604 --> 00:27:39,607
One of A&M's first movies,
Mad Dogs and Englishmen,
522
00:27:39,737 --> 00:27:43,698
directed by Pierre Adidge,
an A&M film.
523
00:27:43,829 --> 00:27:46,222
This was a big project for A&M,
524
00:27:46,353 --> 00:27:49,225
a big way
of exposing Joe Cocker,
525
00:27:49,356 --> 00:27:50,618
a big way of putting their foot
into the film business.
526
00:27:50,748 --> 00:27:52,576
♪ Listen to me, mister♪
527
00:27:52,707 --> 00:27:54,709
♪ Don't you hear me ravin'♪
528
00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:58,321
♪ For my baby once more?♪
529
00:27:58,452 --> 00:28:01,107
♪ Anyway♪
530
00:28:01,237 --> 00:28:05,024
Joe was the kind of guy
that he really worked
531
00:28:05,154 --> 00:28:06,721
and worked hard.
532
00:28:06,852 --> 00:28:09,028
♪ I'm gonna find my way♪
533
00:28:09,158 --> 00:28:12,640
It took a toll.
534
00:28:12,770 --> 00:28:14,468
-[man] Joe Cocker.
-[woman] I can't believe it.
535
00:28:14,598 --> 00:28:17,297
It surprised me so much...
536
00:28:17,427 --> 00:28:19,125
[chuckles]
537
00:28:23,651 --> 00:28:28,047
Joe really had a problem
with taking certain additives
538
00:28:28,177 --> 00:28:29,875
in those days, you know?
539
00:28:32,921 --> 00:28:35,228
[man] Jerry Moss was saying
that to get you back on the road
540
00:28:35,358 --> 00:28:37,578
at first, it was more
or less a hard thing to do.
541
00:28:37,708 --> 00:28:39,536
There was a lot of people
sitting down having a talk
542
00:28:39,667 --> 00:28:41,321
about a loss of sessions.
543
00:28:41,451 --> 00:28:43,453
Was it a hard decision
to make to go back after
544
00:28:43,584 --> 00:28:45,542
such a long period of being off?
545
00:28:45,673 --> 00:28:47,893
They got these worries that
I was turning into an alcoholic.
546
00:28:48,023 --> 00:28:50,199
And they, you know,
asked me to go into
547
00:28:50,330 --> 00:28:53,550
this hospital
and get a check-out.
548
00:28:53,681 --> 00:28:57,511
And when the tour was over,
he just slipped into the inkwell
549
00:28:57,641 --> 00:29:00,209
or went back to England,
and he was nowhere around.
550
00:29:00,340 --> 00:29:02,646
♪ Yeah, baby♪
551
00:29:02,777 --> 00:29:05,084
The Mad Dogs and Englishmen
album became a huge hit
552
00:29:05,214 --> 00:29:07,477
for us in 1970.
553
00:29:07,608 --> 00:29:09,566
♪ I've got some whiskey♪
554
00:29:09,697 --> 00:29:12,134
[audience cheering]
555
00:29:12,265 --> 00:29:14,136
Joe Cocker had had his apogee,
556
00:29:14,267 --> 00:29:17,487
and then there's this
continuation of a career
557
00:29:17,618 --> 00:29:19,315
that could've gone south.
558
00:29:19,446 --> 00:29:21,578
♪ Have some cocaine♪
559
00:29:21,709 --> 00:29:24,016
[audience cheering]
560
00:29:24,146 --> 00:29:27,845
But you hear Joe's voice, and
it's like no one has that voice,
561
00:29:27,976 --> 00:29:30,370
and no one's had
that voice since him.
562
00:29:30,500 --> 00:29:35,244
♪ I'm gonna keep moving,
Darling♪
563
00:29:39,901 --> 00:29:44,210
♪ Till I'm back
In your arms again♪
564
00:29:44,340 --> 00:29:49,389
♪♪
565
00:29:49,519 --> 00:29:54,742
♪♪
566
00:29:54,872 --> 00:29:56,962
Let's talk about
the good old days.
567
00:30:00,139 --> 00:30:06,580
In those days, we listened
to music all day, all night.
568
00:30:06,710 --> 00:30:08,799
It was a thing
about album covers.
569
00:30:08,930 --> 00:30:10,671
It was a toy.
570
00:30:10,801 --> 00:30:14,501
My job was to create things
for kids to collect.
571
00:30:17,504 --> 00:30:19,897
The product we make,
it's art.
572
00:30:20,028 --> 00:30:23,597
You don't sell it the same way
you sell packaged goods.
573
00:30:26,904 --> 00:30:30,212
[Young] We didn't need
marketing and strategies.
574
00:30:30,343 --> 00:30:32,867
We just had, "I know
when I listen to this,
575
00:30:32,998 --> 00:30:35,261
someone's gonna like it."
576
00:30:37,959 --> 00:30:39,700
[Ayeroff] Words like "tonnage,"
which were loosely used
577
00:30:39,830 --> 00:30:42,007
all through the industry,
were banned at A&M.
578
00:30:42,137 --> 00:30:44,835
We were not allowed to call
a big ship on a record tonnage.
579
00:30:44,966 --> 00:30:46,576
This wasn't appropriate.
580
00:30:46,707 --> 00:30:49,275
This isn't the way
you talk about art.
581
00:30:52,887 --> 00:30:55,977
I remember getting a call,
I was in the office at the time,
582
00:30:56,108 --> 00:30:58,588
from our distributor
in St. Louis,
583
00:30:58,719 --> 00:31:02,723
ordering 104,000 albums.
584
00:31:02,853 --> 00:31:04,638
I said, "Are you kidding?"
585
00:31:04,768 --> 00:31:06,640
He says, "No, and you got
to get 'em to me quickly."
586
00:31:06,770 --> 00:31:08,250
I said, "You must really
like this album."
587
00:31:08,381 --> 00:31:09,991
He said, "I never heard it."
588
00:31:10,122 --> 00:31:12,733
But he said--this is something
that's stuck in my head,
589
00:31:12,863 --> 00:31:14,604
and it'll stay there
forever.
590
00:31:14,735 --> 00:31:17,607
He said, "I'm selling
a lot of tonnage."
591
00:31:17,738 --> 00:31:20,523
You know, it's the first time
I thought of music as weight.
592
00:31:20,654 --> 00:31:22,569
[laughs]
593
00:31:24,049 --> 00:31:28,705
Hi. I'm Roland Young, graphics
director of A&M Records.
594
00:31:28,836 --> 00:31:31,404
Everything you see
coming out of here
595
00:31:31,534 --> 00:31:33,841
is my responsibility.
596
00:31:33,971 --> 00:31:36,539
After Monterey Pop,
we were so impressed
597
00:31:36,670 --> 00:31:38,889
with what we'd seen up there
598
00:31:39,020 --> 00:31:40,891
that we took on
the whole art department.
599
00:31:41,022 --> 00:31:42,371
We didn't have any artists
up there,
600
00:31:42,502 --> 00:31:44,634
but we picked up
their art department.
601
00:31:44,765 --> 00:31:49,944
Herb, Jerry, Gil, and I,
we were in our 30s!
602
00:31:50,075 --> 00:31:54,731
Not knowing, but because of not
knowing, it was the start
603
00:31:54,862 --> 00:31:57,299
of something that we've never
done before.
604
00:31:57,430 --> 00:32:00,694
And Gil had the instinct.
605
00:32:02,087 --> 00:32:04,872
Gil was one of the first guys
in the record business really
606
00:32:05,002 --> 00:32:08,745
to think about the advertising
and album covers
607
00:32:08,876 --> 00:32:11,444
being an extension
of what the artist did
608
00:32:11,574 --> 00:32:13,098
and not just a marketing tool.
609
00:32:14,795 --> 00:32:16,927
The amount of attention
610
00:32:17,058 --> 00:32:21,628
that A&M gave
to its album covers,
611
00:32:21,758 --> 00:32:24,674
it will never be repeated again.
612
00:32:24,805 --> 00:32:27,677
Every artist had a personality,
613
00:32:27,808 --> 00:32:31,638
and what you tried to do
was to absorb that.
614
00:32:31,768 --> 00:32:34,771
We were influenced by the music.
615
00:32:34,902 --> 00:32:39,820
But it also had to be
incorporating the person.
616
00:32:40,603 --> 00:32:43,606
You were really following
the artist.
617
00:32:45,434 --> 00:32:53,703
♪♪
618
00:32:53,834 --> 00:32:56,750
♪ My lady D'Arbanville♪
619
00:32:59,187 --> 00:33:02,059
♪ Why do you sleep so still?♪
620
00:33:02,190 --> 00:33:04,149
I grew up in
the West End London,
621
00:33:04,279 --> 00:33:07,500
which is kind of like Broadway,
so music and entertainment
622
00:33:07,630 --> 00:33:09,154
were surrounding me,
and neon lights and everything.
623
00:33:09,284 --> 00:33:12,200
So it was a natural
kind of step for me.
624
00:33:12,331 --> 00:33:16,900
And music was just a fast track
to expressing myself.
625
00:33:17,031 --> 00:33:20,469
♪ My lady D'Arbanville♪
626
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:23,255
Cat Stevens,
he's a very magical artist.
627
00:33:23,385 --> 00:33:26,388
This is a guy who you sat down,
and he did his album covers,
628
00:33:26,519 --> 00:33:27,650
and he worked with Roland.
629
00:33:27,781 --> 00:33:28,782
He loved Roland Young.
630
00:33:28,912 --> 00:33:30,349
And I would sit and watch.
631
00:33:30,479 --> 00:33:33,047
♪ Why do you breathe so low?♪
632
00:33:33,178 --> 00:33:35,615
All the albums
were designed by me,
633
00:33:35,745 --> 00:33:38,052
drawn by me or painted
or photographed by me.
634
00:33:38,183 --> 00:33:40,185
I was always
in the art department.
635
00:33:41,621 --> 00:33:44,885
He wanted to be
a graphic designer at one time.
636
00:33:45,015 --> 00:33:48,410
Thank God he decided
to become a musician instead.
637
00:33:48,541 --> 00:33:51,065
♪ I loved you, my lady♪
638
00:33:51,196 --> 00:33:52,588
[Stevens] A&M was family.
639
00:33:52,719 --> 00:33:54,721
You know, it was my home
in a way
640
00:33:54,851 --> 00:33:57,158
because it was such a nice team.
641
00:33:57,289 --> 00:33:59,508
Jerry, you know,
was always, you know,
642
00:33:59,639 --> 00:34:02,816
"Hey, you know, whatever
you want to do, it's up to you."
643
00:34:02,946 --> 00:34:05,079
I thought, "Wow, you know,
fantastic."
644
00:34:05,210 --> 00:34:08,865
♪ This rose will never die
I loved you♪
645
00:34:08,996 --> 00:34:10,998
They just let you do
what you naturally want to do,
646
00:34:11,128 --> 00:34:13,043
you know, as far as music
is concerned.
647
00:34:13,174 --> 00:34:15,089
They're not hung up with
the business end of it.
648
00:34:15,220 --> 00:34:17,091
It's just the independent--
I mean, people who have
649
00:34:17,222 --> 00:34:19,876
good ideas are now coming to
the front, which is great.
650
00:34:20,007 --> 00:34:22,052
You don't have to go through
the big mill.
651
00:34:22,183 --> 00:34:25,578
♪ La, la, la, la, la, la♪
652
00:34:25,708 --> 00:34:30,670
♪ La, la, la, la, la, la, la,
La, la, la, la, la♪
653
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:34,630
Cat Stevens had
his peak of success with us
654
00:34:34,761 --> 00:34:37,894
with Tea for the Tillerman
and Teaser and the Firecat.
655
00:34:38,025 --> 00:34:40,506
Those two albums each sold
five million each
656
00:34:40,636 --> 00:34:42,638
in the first year,
and then just kept on going.
657
00:34:46,816 --> 00:34:49,993
♪ Ooh, baby, baby,
It's a wild world♪
658
00:34:52,692 --> 00:34:54,433
[woman] You set yourself
a really hectic schedule,
659
00:34:54,563 --> 00:34:56,565
a whole world tour.
660
00:34:56,696 --> 00:34:58,088
Doesn't this worry you
that maybe it's a bit
661
00:34:58,219 --> 00:34:59,960
too much to take on?
662
00:35:00,090 --> 00:35:03,268
You know, that four months
almost of solid touring,
663
00:35:03,398 --> 00:35:05,400
that it might
sort of weaken you somewhat?
664
00:35:05,531 --> 00:35:07,402
No.
665
00:35:07,533 --> 00:35:14,627
♪♪
666
00:35:14,757 --> 00:35:15,845
Did you touch him,
did you?
667
00:35:15,976 --> 00:35:17,369
-Yes!
-What was it like?
668
00:35:17,499 --> 00:35:20,154
Beautiful!
669
00:35:20,285 --> 00:35:22,983
Fame creates
a kind of separation
670
00:35:23,113 --> 00:35:25,681
between you and yourself,
671
00:35:25,812 --> 00:35:27,117
and you're creating an image
672
00:35:27,248 --> 00:35:29,903
which has to be bigger
than life.
673
00:35:30,033 --> 00:35:32,035
I mean, I toured
with Jimi Hendrix, you know,
674
00:35:32,166 --> 00:35:35,822
and you can imagine what
kind of lifestyle we adapted to.
675
00:35:35,952 --> 00:35:38,564
He was an artist
who was out there.
676
00:35:38,694 --> 00:35:41,044
You know, it was sex, drugs,
and rock and roll.
677
00:35:41,175 --> 00:35:43,046
[Stevens] And then you find out,
you know, a few years later,
678
00:35:43,177 --> 00:35:44,961
Jimi Hendrix dies, and you say,
679
00:35:45,092 --> 00:35:48,182
"Well, hang on.
I don't want to do that."
680
00:35:48,313 --> 00:35:50,619
There is something
very heavy
681
00:35:50,750 --> 00:35:54,536
about being as big a star
as Cat Stevens.
682
00:35:54,667 --> 00:35:57,757
Around 1977, there was the sense
683
00:35:57,887 --> 00:36:00,934
that Cat Stevens
was running too fast.
684
00:36:05,286 --> 00:36:07,114
I was trying
to look after my future,
685
00:36:07,244 --> 00:36:08,724
but one of the big questions
was, you know,
686
00:36:08,855 --> 00:36:10,944
"Well, what is the future?"
687
00:36:11,074 --> 00:36:13,381
♪ Well, if you want to
Sing out, sing out♪
688
00:36:13,512 --> 00:36:15,905
And that's where I started
looking deeper into my life
689
00:36:16,036 --> 00:36:17,951
and my identity
and where I was going.
690
00:36:18,081 --> 00:36:21,041
♪ 'Cause there's
A million things to be♪
691
00:36:21,171 --> 00:36:24,436
My music was based,
most of it, on my real life
692
00:36:24,566 --> 00:36:28,178
and what I was searching for,
and that resounded so strongly
693
00:36:28,309 --> 00:36:30,224
with so much of my generation.
694
00:36:30,355 --> 00:36:33,575
♪ You can do what you want♪
695
00:36:33,706 --> 00:36:35,751
♪ The opportunity's on♪
696
00:36:35,882 --> 00:36:37,797
It became important to them,
697
00:36:37,927 --> 00:36:39,668
so important to them
as it was to me.
698
00:36:39,799 --> 00:36:43,237
I do realize
that, let's say the public,
699
00:36:43,368 --> 00:36:45,108
when people listen to me,
700
00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:47,241
really get involved
in what I'm saying,
701
00:36:47,372 --> 00:36:51,332
and they associate a musician
or a lyricist or a poet
702
00:36:51,463 --> 00:36:53,900
can be like someone
that you trust,
703
00:36:54,030 --> 00:36:57,773
and you follow their instincts,
and you follow their ideas.
704
00:36:57,904 --> 00:37:00,689
♪ Now, I've been happy lately♪
705
00:37:00,820 --> 00:37:03,649
♪ Thinking about
The good things to come♪
706
00:37:03,779 --> 00:37:06,956
♪ And I believe it could be♪
707
00:37:07,087 --> 00:37:10,264
For the majority
of my kind of musical years,
708
00:37:10,395 --> 00:37:12,701
I was searching for my identity.
709
00:37:12,832 --> 00:37:15,791
♪ Dreaming about
The world as one♪
710
00:37:15,922 --> 00:37:19,229
So therefore I had to go through
a great learning curve,
711
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:21,710
which didn't end for many,
many, many years.
712
00:37:21,841 --> 00:37:23,756
♪ I was on the edge
Of darkness♪
713
00:37:23,886 --> 00:37:27,194
Before I actually found out a
little bit more about who I was.
714
00:37:27,324 --> 00:37:30,197
♪ Well, peace train
Take this country♪
715
00:37:30,327 --> 00:37:31,981
♪ Come take me home again♪
716
00:37:35,115 --> 00:37:37,987
There's another major part
717
00:37:38,118 --> 00:37:42,035
which Jerry of A&M
played in my life,
718
00:37:42,165 --> 00:37:44,777
and that was when I went over
to his beach house
719
00:37:44,907 --> 00:37:48,084
one afternoon for lunch.
720
00:37:48,215 --> 00:37:51,174
I went for a swim,
and that was the day
721
00:37:51,305 --> 00:37:52,828
I discovered that I was human.
722
00:37:58,834 --> 00:37:59,879
So, we were
at the beach house,
723
00:38:00,009 --> 00:38:01,837
and we were talking
with his manager
724
00:38:01,968 --> 00:38:04,187
and noticed that Steve was
having some little difficulty
725
00:38:04,318 --> 00:38:06,146
in the water.
726
00:38:06,276 --> 00:38:08,931
I was not able
to stay afloat.
727
00:38:09,062 --> 00:38:13,893
It was a point in time
where I'd lost all my energy.
728
00:38:14,023 --> 00:38:18,985
And I could see the house
on the beach.
729
00:38:19,115 --> 00:38:20,987
And I could not get any closer.
730
00:38:24,773 --> 00:38:26,209
This was gonna be death.
731
00:38:30,605 --> 00:38:33,869
That moment, I didn't have
any hesitation
732
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:36,698
in finding out
what I believed.
733
00:38:36,829 --> 00:38:39,962
I called out to God,
and I made a promise.
734
00:38:46,403 --> 00:38:49,102
This wave came
and pushed me forward
735
00:38:49,232 --> 00:38:51,931
as if the tide had turned.
736
00:38:56,501 --> 00:39:00,374
And it's a miraculous thing
I can't explain,
737
00:39:00,505 --> 00:39:03,551
because suddenly I was back,
738
00:39:03,682 --> 00:39:06,206
you know, and my life
had been handed back to me.
739
00:39:08,077 --> 00:39:09,426
He came back in
a little shaken,
740
00:39:09,557 --> 00:39:12,342
but we, you know, dried him off,
and he was fine.
741
00:39:12,473 --> 00:39:16,390
Now, supposedly, he had
an epiphany in the water
742
00:39:16,521 --> 00:39:20,481
and went home that night and had
a meeting with his brother,
743
00:39:20,612 --> 00:39:22,527
who gave him a copy
of the Koran,
744
00:39:22,657 --> 00:39:26,269
and he took that as a sign
to do what he had to do.
745
00:39:28,620 --> 00:39:31,971
Jerry was very understanding
when I came to the point
746
00:39:32,101 --> 00:39:34,016
where I said, "You know what,
I want to just take a break."
747
00:39:34,147 --> 00:39:37,150
I think he understood
my creative energy
748
00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:39,065
was no longer the same
as it was before,
749
00:39:39,195 --> 00:39:41,154
so I needed that break.
750
00:39:43,591 --> 00:39:45,419
We didn't know
it was gonna be 27 years,
751
00:39:45,550 --> 00:39:48,814
but, you know,
that was a surprise.
752
00:39:51,556 --> 00:39:55,168
♪ Oh, it's not time
To make a change♪
753
00:39:55,298 --> 00:39:58,258
♪ Just relax, take it easy♪
754
00:39:58,388 --> 00:40:00,216
♪ You're still young♪
755
00:40:00,347 --> 00:40:02,044
♪ That's your fault♪
756
00:40:02,175 --> 00:40:04,612
♪ There's so much
You have to know♪
757
00:40:04,743 --> 00:40:08,181
I realized in the end that it's
what you do in this world
758
00:40:08,311 --> 00:40:09,922
is what you take with you,
759
00:40:10,052 --> 00:40:13,403
is, you know, your belief
and your good deeds.
760
00:40:13,534 --> 00:40:15,275
And I certainly hadn't
piled up enough of those,
761
00:40:15,405 --> 00:40:16,668
as far as I was concerned.
762
00:40:16,798 --> 00:40:18,365
♪ To become♪
763
00:40:18,495 --> 00:40:21,063
♪ When you found something♪
764
00:40:21,194 --> 00:40:24,893
I think my fans, when I left,
some of them understood
765
00:40:25,024 --> 00:40:28,418
because I'd--by God,
I'd said it in my songs that,
766
00:40:28,549 --> 00:40:30,246
you know, I'm on the road
to find it.
767
00:40:30,377 --> 00:40:32,901
You know, if I find out,
well, come on.
768
00:40:33,032 --> 00:40:35,469
Time to--you know,
to get off this machine
769
00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:37,166
and, you know, start living.
770
00:40:41,431 --> 00:40:44,652
♪ How can I try to explain♪
771
00:40:44,783 --> 00:40:47,960
But I think the big problem
was that the media took
772
00:40:48,090 --> 00:40:51,616
a rather aggressive approach
to my freedom of choice,
773
00:40:51,746 --> 00:40:55,141
and it was because of that,
more than anything,
774
00:40:55,271 --> 00:40:57,404
I found impossible to live with.
775
00:40:57,534 --> 00:40:59,406
And so I just had
to cut myself off
776
00:40:59,536 --> 00:41:01,495
because I couldn't endure that.
777
00:41:01,626 --> 00:41:07,457
♪ There's a way, and I know
That I have to go away♪
778
00:41:07,588 --> 00:41:09,242
♪ I know♪
779
00:41:09,372 --> 00:41:12,419
That epiphany
is what set him off
780
00:41:12,549 --> 00:41:16,118
on a spiritual journey
that has probably satisfied him
781
00:41:16,249 --> 00:41:20,166
a lot more than
his actual career did in music.
782
00:41:20,296 --> 00:41:22,429
Some people burn out.
783
00:41:22,559 --> 00:41:24,213
You know, they just
fall out of the bottom.
784
00:41:24,344 --> 00:41:26,128
He kind of flew out of the top.
785
00:41:28,696 --> 00:41:31,307
Cat Stevens had a voice
that compelled you
786
00:41:31,438 --> 00:41:33,309
to listen to a lyric,
which is what I think
787
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:35,137
a voice is all about.
788
00:41:35,268 --> 00:41:38,924
It certainly happened
with The Carpenters.
789
00:41:39,054 --> 00:41:41,535
We got this tape,
and I forget whether the tape
790
00:41:41,666 --> 00:41:45,147
was flung over the gate, but
the tape made its way to Herb.
791
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:52,546
♪ Talking to myself
And feeling old♪
792
00:41:52,677 --> 00:41:54,983
I put on this tape, you know,
not expecting anything.
793
00:41:55,114 --> 00:41:57,594
Had my eyes closed,
and this voice came out.
794
00:41:57,725 --> 00:41:59,858
It felt like this chick was
sitting right next to me.
795
00:41:59,988 --> 00:42:03,252
♪ Hanging around♪
796
00:42:03,383 --> 00:42:06,473
♪ Nothing to do but frown♪
797
00:42:06,603 --> 00:42:12,435
♪ Rainy days and Mondays
Always get me down♪
798
00:42:12,566 --> 00:42:14,437
Karen had a presence
in her voice
799
00:42:14,568 --> 00:42:16,570
that was just
extraordinary.
800
00:42:16,701 --> 00:42:22,097
♪ What I got they
Used to call the blues♪
801
00:42:22,228 --> 00:42:23,577
And the sound
was beautiful.
802
00:42:23,708 --> 00:42:25,057
There was this passion.
803
00:42:25,187 --> 00:42:26,493
It was this type of music
804
00:42:26,623 --> 00:42:28,190
that came right through
The Carpenters.
805
00:42:28,321 --> 00:42:29,539
It was love.
806
00:42:29,670 --> 00:42:32,455
♪ Walking around♪
807
00:42:32,586 --> 00:42:35,545
♪ Some kind of lonely cloud♪
808
00:42:35,676 --> 00:42:41,203
♪ Rainy days and Mondays
Always get me down♪
809
00:42:41,334 --> 00:42:43,379
Herbie heard the tape,
810
00:42:43,510 --> 00:42:46,078
we signed the contract,
we took a picture,
811
00:42:46,208 --> 00:42:47,732
and that was pretty much it.
812
00:42:47,862 --> 00:42:49,559
When we finally did get
into A&M records,
813
00:42:49,690 --> 00:42:53,346
it took Herb Alpert,
who was a musician,
814
00:42:53,476 --> 00:42:57,698
and he saw what he liked
musically in it
815
00:42:57,829 --> 00:43:00,570
and didn't stop to think
whether it would sell or not.
816
00:43:00,701 --> 00:43:02,485
He just took us
because he dug it.
817
00:43:02,616 --> 00:43:05,140
♪ Go while the going is good ♪
818
00:43:05,271 --> 00:43:07,534
♪ Knowing when to leave may be
The smartest thing♪
819
00:43:07,664 --> 00:43:09,449
Herbie said,
"This is the kind of music
820
00:43:09,579 --> 00:43:12,017
I'm proud to have on A&M.
821
00:43:12,147 --> 00:43:15,063
♪ Foolish as it seems♪
822
00:43:15,194 --> 00:43:18,371
Guiding in our philosophy
was figuring out artists
823
00:43:18,501 --> 00:43:20,547
that had something new to say,
824
00:43:20,677 --> 00:43:24,333
that were artists instead
of entertainers or performers.
825
00:43:24,464 --> 00:43:26,031
And most other labels
were concerned
826
00:43:26,161 --> 00:43:28,381
with finding the next Bob Dylan.
827
00:43:28,511 --> 00:43:31,732
♪ I'm sure that no one can tell
When our wishes and hopes♪
828
00:43:31,863 --> 00:43:33,429
So when Herb signed
the Carpenters,
829
00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:35,431
he wasn't signing
the next anything.
830
00:43:35,562 --> 00:43:38,434
♪ Sail when the wind
Starts to blow♪
831
00:43:38,565 --> 00:43:42,221
♪ But like a fool,
I don't know♪
832
00:43:42,351 --> 00:43:47,574
♪ When to♪
833
00:43:47,704 --> 00:43:49,532
♪ Leave♪
834
00:43:49,663 --> 00:43:52,013
The one thing you noticed
was that Karen
835
00:43:52,144 --> 00:43:54,276
was the band's drummer.
836
00:43:54,407 --> 00:43:56,757
If you'd ask Karen, I said,
"What's your strength?
837
00:43:56,888 --> 00:43:59,716
What are you really, really,
really, really good at?"
838
00:43:59,847 --> 00:44:02,110
She'd say,
"I'm really a good drummer."
839
00:44:02,241 --> 00:44:05,113
I mean, this girl
with this magical voice
840
00:44:05,244 --> 00:44:06,506
thought she was
a drummer, you know.
841
00:44:12,512 --> 00:44:14,296
If you play drums,
you're doing four things
842
00:44:14,427 --> 00:44:16,342
simultaneously anyway.
843
00:44:16,472 --> 00:44:18,170
Then you add
a vocal into that,
844
00:44:18,300 --> 00:44:21,390
and she was all of 19,
and she could do all of this.
845
00:44:26,265 --> 00:44:28,093
The Carpenters, "Close to You,"
take one.
846
00:44:31,748 --> 00:44:34,403
I call Hal David,
and I asked him a question.
847
00:44:34,534 --> 00:44:36,188
I said, "Man, is there
a song you find yourself
848
00:44:36,318 --> 00:44:37,885
whistling in the shower?"
849
00:44:38,016 --> 00:44:40,453
Well, three days later,
he sent me "Close To You."
850
00:44:40,583 --> 00:44:47,199
♪ Why do birds suddenly appear♪
851
00:44:47,329 --> 00:44:49,592
And, you know, luck be have it,
I gave it to The Carpenters,
852
00:44:49,723 --> 00:44:52,508
and, bang,
that was the song.
853
00:44:52,639 --> 00:44:54,641
♪ And just like me♪
854
00:44:54,771 --> 00:44:57,557
[Carpenter] I remember saying,
"To me, this is either gonna go
855
00:44:57,687 --> 00:45:00,908
to number one, or it's never
going to see the light of day."
856
00:45:03,563 --> 00:45:08,220
♪ On the day that you were born,
The angels got together♪
857
00:45:08,350 --> 00:45:12,877
♪ And decided to create
A dream come true♪
858
00:45:13,007 --> 00:45:18,883
It debuted at 56,
then went to 37, 14, then 7,
859
00:45:19,013 --> 00:45:22,190
then 3, then 1,
and it stayed there for a month.
860
00:45:22,321 --> 00:45:28,501
♪ That is why
All the girls in town♪
861
00:45:28,631 --> 00:45:30,720
♪ Follow you♪
862
00:45:30,851 --> 00:45:34,420
♪ All around♪
863
00:45:34,550 --> 00:45:37,031
♪ Just like me♪
864
00:45:37,162 --> 00:45:39,468
♪ They long to be♪
865
00:45:39,599 --> 00:45:42,689
♪ Close to you♪
866
00:45:42,819 --> 00:45:45,735
Once "Close To You" clicked,
one person wrote,
867
00:45:45,866 --> 00:45:49,739
"The Carpenters didn't just hit,
they exploded."
868
00:45:49,870 --> 00:45:52,177
We were headliners
within a year and a half.
869
00:46:02,491 --> 00:46:05,364
Richard Carpenter
was very instrumental
870
00:46:05,494 --> 00:46:07,192
in the success
of The Carpenters.
871
00:46:07,322 --> 00:46:09,585
He understood a good song.
872
00:46:09,716 --> 00:46:11,718
He knew how to get
the best out of Karen.
873
00:46:11,848 --> 00:46:13,676
He was very good at creating,
you know,
874
00:46:13,807 --> 00:46:15,678
these vocal backgrounds
that he wrote.
875
00:46:15,809 --> 00:46:17,767
So it was the combination
of the two.
876
00:46:17,898 --> 00:46:19,465
It was The Carpenters.
877
00:46:19,595 --> 00:46:24,513
♪ We go on hurting each other♪
878
00:46:24,644 --> 00:46:29,301
♪ We go on
Hurting each other♪
879
00:46:29,431 --> 00:46:33,958
♪ Making each other cry
Hurting each other♪
880
00:46:34,088 --> 00:46:37,439
It's just an easy listening
sound that appeals to all ages,
881
00:46:37,570 --> 00:46:39,659
not necessarily everybody,
but to all ages.
882
00:46:39,789 --> 00:46:44,577
♪ Can't we stop
Hurting each other?♪
883
00:46:44,707 --> 00:46:49,495
♪ Gotta stop
Hurting each other♪
884
00:46:49,625 --> 00:46:51,540
♪ Making each other cry♪
885
00:46:51,671 --> 00:46:55,283
[applause]
886
00:46:55,414 --> 00:46:57,416
How about this?
Fourteen gold records,
887
00:46:57,546 --> 00:46:59,331
20 million sales,
and they keep singing
888
00:46:59,461 --> 00:47:01,159
"We've Only Just Begun."
889
00:47:01,289 --> 00:47:02,638
[laughter]
890
00:47:06,860 --> 00:47:09,732
Once the records hit,
Richard and Karen
891
00:47:09,863 --> 00:47:12,387
became everybody's
favorite musical act.
892
00:47:12,518 --> 00:47:16,348
♪ We've only just begun♪
893
00:47:16,478 --> 00:47:20,787
♪ To live♪
894
00:47:20,917 --> 00:47:26,619
♪ White lace and promises♪
895
00:47:26,749 --> 00:47:31,885
♪ A kiss for luck,
And we're on our way♪
896
00:47:32,016 --> 00:47:34,627
♪ We've only begun♪
897
00:47:34,757 --> 00:47:38,848
♪ Before the rising sun♪
898
00:47:38,979 --> 00:47:43,244
♪ We fly♪
899
00:47:43,375 --> 00:47:48,902
♪ So many roads to choose♪
900
00:47:49,033 --> 00:47:54,342
♪ We'll start out walkin'
And learn to run♪
901
00:47:54,473 --> 00:47:56,779
Lou Adler--
dear friend of mine--
902
00:47:56,910 --> 00:48:01,306
we started together in the
business in 1956, I think.
903
00:48:01,436 --> 00:48:03,569
Lou, at the time,
wrote poetry.
904
00:48:03,699 --> 00:48:05,701
I put some music
to his poetry,
905
00:48:05,832 --> 00:48:07,921
and we went
into Specialty Records.
906
00:48:08,052 --> 00:48:10,532
This was like 1957,
I think.
907
00:48:10,663 --> 00:48:12,404
Sonny Bono
was the A&R man.
908
00:48:12,534 --> 00:48:15,233
And Sonny listened
to our material and says,
909
00:48:15,363 --> 00:48:17,017
he says, "I'm serious,
910
00:48:17,148 --> 00:48:18,671
I think you guys ought
to get out of the business.
911
00:48:18,801 --> 00:48:20,499
I mean, you guys
don't have it."
912
00:48:20,629 --> 00:48:23,502
-[laughs]
-That was encouraging.
913
00:48:24,590 --> 00:48:27,332
Everybody admired Lou,
and it was time for him
914
00:48:27,462 --> 00:48:30,335
to take his label
Ode Records somewhere.
915
00:48:30,465 --> 00:48:32,902
And we made
a distribution deal.
916
00:48:33,033 --> 00:48:35,818
I couldn't deal
with the corporate system.
917
00:48:35,949 --> 00:48:38,517
I was much more
independent feeling.
918
00:48:38,647 --> 00:48:42,521
That's why the A&M fit
was so good.
919
00:48:42,651 --> 00:48:46,568
Lou brought us Mary Clayton,
Peggy Lipton, and Carole King.
920
00:48:49,615 --> 00:48:53,488
The Tapestryalbum was recorded
in Studio B at A&M.
921
00:48:57,623 --> 00:48:58,928
Lou did
a very clever thing.
922
00:48:59,059 --> 00:49:01,670
He recorded Carole King
like it was a demo.
923
00:49:01,801 --> 00:49:03,585
He didn't overproduce it.
924
00:49:03,716 --> 00:49:07,328
It was very simple,
just relying on great songs.
925
00:49:07,459 --> 00:49:14,030
♪ Tonight, you're mine
Completely♪
926
00:49:14,161 --> 00:49:17,860
She'd come to
the office at A&M,
927
00:49:17,991 --> 00:49:19,819
and we'd go over the songs.
928
00:49:19,949 --> 00:49:22,213
She'd play them on piano.
929
00:49:22,343 --> 00:49:25,520
♪ So sweetly♪
930
00:49:27,827 --> 00:49:30,656
Lou Adler, when I was
making Tapestry,
931
00:49:30,786 --> 00:49:33,572
had the ability to just quietly
make a suggestion,
932
00:49:33,702 --> 00:49:35,139
"Why don't you layer
your voice?"
933
00:49:35,269 --> 00:49:39,404
And with each new layer,
I heard new parts.
934
00:49:40,927 --> 00:49:48,717
♪ But will you love me
Tomorrow?♪
935
00:49:51,894 --> 00:49:53,896
♪ Is this a lasting♪
936
00:49:54,027 --> 00:49:55,724
The drift and the buzz
and everything
937
00:49:55,855 --> 00:49:58,379
came from the A&M lot.
938
00:49:58,510 --> 00:50:01,774
The buzz was this
is a special record.
939
00:50:01,904 --> 00:50:08,476
♪ Tonight with words unspoken♪
940
00:50:08,607 --> 00:50:10,826
Tapestryhappens,
and the next thing you know,
941
00:50:10,957 --> 00:50:12,698
she's the biggest artist
in the world.
942
00:50:12,828 --> 00:50:16,528
Literally sells millions and
millions and millions of albums.
943
00:50:16,658 --> 00:50:18,834
♪ Only one♪
944
00:50:24,013 --> 00:50:25,798
You know, my time at A&M
945
00:50:25,928 --> 00:50:29,018
was like chapter headings
in a great book.
946
00:50:29,149 --> 00:50:31,195
You know, you get to the end
of one chapter,
947
00:50:31,325 --> 00:50:34,676
and there's a great story
that ends that chapter,
948
00:50:34,807 --> 00:50:38,114
and Tapestrywas one
of those great stories.
949
00:50:38,245 --> 00:50:43,859
There was always a chapter
to read, to experience at A&M.
950
00:50:48,821 --> 00:50:52,041
We were able to start the '70s
with three major artists--
951
00:50:52,172 --> 00:50:55,741
The Carpenters, Cat Stevens,
and Carole King.
952
00:50:58,700 --> 00:51:00,398
And we were feeling pretty good
as a label.
953
00:51:00,528 --> 00:51:02,095
We were feeling
real good.
954
00:51:02,226 --> 00:51:04,184
As a matter of fact,
people offered us a lot of money
955
00:51:04,315 --> 00:51:06,055
to sell the label
and do all that thing.
956
00:51:06,186 --> 00:51:10,930
But we enjoyed doing
what we were doing and...
957
00:51:11,060 --> 00:51:12,671
and making these records.
958
00:51:12,801 --> 00:51:15,804
This was fun.
This was really great fun.
959
00:51:16,849 --> 00:51:19,504
We were at the right place
at the right time,
960
00:51:19,634 --> 00:51:21,070
and we walked right
through the door,
961
00:51:21,201 --> 00:51:23,856
and it was--
it was pretty beautiful.
962
00:51:23,986 --> 00:51:32,038
♪♪
963
00:51:32,168 --> 00:51:35,128
♪ Peace Train sounding louder♪
964
00:51:35,259 --> 00:51:38,000
♪ Glide on the Peace Train♪
965
00:51:38,131 --> 00:51:41,047
♪ Ooh, ah, ee, ah, ooh♪
966
00:51:41,177 --> 00:51:43,702
♪ Come on now, Peace Train♪
967
00:51:43,832 --> 00:51:47,053
♪ Yes, Peace Train holy roller♪
968
00:51:47,183 --> 00:51:49,882
♪ Everyone jump up on
The Peace Train♪
969
00:51:50,012 --> 00:51:52,972
♪ Ooh, ah, ee, ah, ooh♪
970
00:51:53,102 --> 00:51:55,540
♪ Come on now, Peace Train♪
971
00:51:55,670 --> 00:51:58,847
♪ Get your bags together♪
972
00:51:58,978 --> 00:52:01,459
♪ Go bring your
Good friends, too♪
973
00:52:01,589 --> 00:52:04,549
♪ 'Cause it's getting nearer♪
974
00:52:04,679 --> 00:52:07,073
♪ It soon will be with you♪
975
00:52:07,203 --> 00:52:10,163
♪ Now come and join the living♪
976
00:52:10,294 --> 00:52:12,818
♪ It's not so far from you♪
977
00:52:12,948 --> 00:52:16,125
♪ And it's getting nearer♪
978
00:52:16,256 --> 00:52:18,606
♪ Soon it will all be true♪
979
00:52:18,737 --> 00:52:21,566
♪ Oh, Peace Train
Sounding louder♪
980
00:52:21,696 --> 00:52:24,569
♪ Glide on the Peace Train♪
981
00:52:24,699 --> 00:52:27,876
♪ Ooh, ah, ee, ah, ooh♪
982
00:52:28,007 --> 00:52:29,661
♪ Come on now, Peace Train♪
983
00:52:29,791 --> 00:52:32,054
♪ Peace Train♪
984
00:52:36,189 --> 00:52:38,974
♪ Ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh♪
985
00:52:41,847 --> 00:52:45,111
♪ Now I've been crying lately♪
986
00:52:45,241 --> 00:52:48,114
♪ Thinkin' about
The world as it is♪
987
00:52:48,244 --> 00:52:51,596
♪ Why must we go on hating?♪
988
00:52:51,726 --> 00:52:54,033
♪ Why can't we live in bliss?♪
989
00:52:54,163 --> 00:52:57,210
♪ 'Cause out on
The edge of darkness♪
990
00:52:57,341 --> 00:52:59,821
♪ There rides a Peace Train♪
991
00:52:59,952 --> 00:53:03,216
♪ Oh, Peace Train
Take this country♪
992
00:53:03,347 --> 00:53:05,653
♪ Come take me home again♪
993
00:53:05,784 --> 00:53:08,743
♪ Oh, Peace Train
Sounding louder♪
994
00:53:08,874 --> 00:53:11,833
♪ Glide on the Peace Train♪
995
00:53:11,964 --> 00:53:14,967
♪ Ooh, ah, ee, ah, ooh♪
996
00:53:15,097 --> 00:53:17,622
♪ Come on now, Peace Train♪
997
00:53:17,752 --> 00:53:20,668
♪ Yes, Peace Train holy roller♪
998
00:53:20,799 --> 00:53:23,149
♪ Everyone jump up on
The Peace Train♪
999
00:53:23,279 --> 00:53:26,631
♪ Ooh, ah, ee, ah, ooh♪
1000
00:53:26,761 --> 00:53:28,633
♪ Come on, come on, come on♪
73792
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