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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Downloaded from YTS.MX 2 00:00:07,800 --> 00:00:14,800 -[birds chirping] -[wind through trees] 3 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.MX 4 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:21,880 [traffic] 5 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:26,880 We are a connected society. 6 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:29,040 We are connected to our families and friends, 7 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:31,040 but also to our jobs and duties. 8 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:33,760 We are connected over computer networks, 9 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:35,760 phone lines and traffic junctions. 10 00:00:36,480 --> 00:00:39,440 The world surrounding us is in constant movement and growth. 11 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:43,360 We left our houses made of wood to plant an artificial forest 12 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:45,520 from concrete, glass and metal. 13 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:49,560 It's not easy escaping a world where everything is connected, 14 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:53,320 to spend some time in the forest where we seek quiet and rest 15 00:00:53,400 --> 00:00:55,080 from our unsteady lives. 16 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:58,840 We expect to find some kind of wisdom in the forest, 17 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:01,280 but we don't understand the voice of nature. 18 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:03,800 If those trees could only talk! 19 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:06,080 Little do we know, 20 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:08,160 that in between this world of stillness, 21 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:10,039 words are rushing back and forth. 22 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:13,320 We only have to tilt our heads down and listen... 23 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:15,320 to our roots. 24 00:01:16,039 --> 00:01:20,600 [serene music] 25 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:40,240 The Coastal Pacific Rain forest of North America. 26 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:42,479 These forests are special 27 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:44,240 and known all over the world. 28 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:46,120 Here in British Columbia, 29 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:48,759 one can find trees of heights around 100 meters 30 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:50,920 and over 1 000 years of age. 31 00:01:51,759 --> 00:01:53,600 People walk amongst these ancient giants 32 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:56,400 in a sense of spiritual wonder and respect. 33 00:01:57,360 --> 00:01:59,960 But not anymore are these places only described 34 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:01,880 by mythological metaphors. 35 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:06,160 Scientists begin to understand the importance of these forests 36 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:08,759 as they discover more details about the relationships 37 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:10,960 between trees on a microscopic scale. 38 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:13,200 Here in Canada, 39 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:16,240 at the University of British Columbia in Vancouver, 40 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:20,000 Dr. Suzanne Simard, Professor of Forest Ecology, 41 00:02:20,079 --> 00:02:22,360 conducts ground-breaking research. 42 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:25,320 Together with a team of passionate forest scientists, 43 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:27,440 she tries to find out more about the methods 44 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:29,640 of communication amongst trees. 45 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:33,079 Before I became a professor 46 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:34,600 I was actually a forester. 47 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:36,079 And before that I grew up 48 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:38,480 in the Inland Rain forest of British Columbia. 49 00:02:39,079 --> 00:02:42,920 As a forester I really was 50 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:46,120 moving into an area that I loved dear to my heart. 51 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:47,480 I knew forests. 52 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:50,000 As I started working for the forest industry, 53 00:02:50,079 --> 00:02:52,920 I started to realize that what was happening 54 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:55,680 didn't really mesh very well 55 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:58,800 with what I understood forests to work like. 56 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:02,040 My job was to go into old clear cuts 57 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:06,560 or new clear cuts and prescribe trees to be planted. 58 00:03:06,640 --> 00:03:08,680 What the forest industry was doing then 59 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:12,720 was planting one or two species in clear cuts. 60 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:14,000 This was very different 61 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:16,120 than what I understood forests to grow like, 62 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:18,160 where there's mixes of species. 63 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:20,280 When we go walking in the woods 64 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:23,200 we expect to find nature untouched and pure, 65 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:25,320 but in fact we wander through an environment 66 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:27,880 that has been largely shaped by men. 67 00:03:28,640 --> 00:03:31,680 Pristine forests are rather unique in the world. 68 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:34,400 In a small country like Germany 69 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:36,320 forests have been intensively managed 70 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:37,960 by people for centuries, 71 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:39,760 almost everywhere you go. 72 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:43,320 In an old, close to natural Beech-forest in The Eifel, 73 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:45,720 a low mountain range in the West of Germany, 74 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:48,360 forest ranger Peter Wohlleben 75 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:51,760 is well aware of the value of the trees in his district. 76 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:55,040 For more than two decades he made his observations. 77 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:58,400 In his bestselling book "The hidden life of trees" 78 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:00,960 he describes the most curious and unexpected things 79 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:03,200 that are going on in his forest. 80 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:05,600 He knows that this place is a rare treasure 81 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:07,840 that needs to be protected. 82 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:10,720 Originally all of Germany would have looked 83 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:12,280 like this old Beech-forest. 84 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:15,360 80% of the area was covered with natural Beech-forest. 85 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:17,200 mixed with other tree species. 86 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:19,160 But today there's only a fraction left 87 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:21,200 and we have plantation-forests everywhere. 88 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:23,440 These consists mostly of plantations 89 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:25,200 with even edged conifers 90 00:04:25,280 --> 00:04:27,040 that have been planted and are managed 91 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:29,000 with heavy machinery. 92 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:40,159 What happened was that they ended up using 93 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:42,040 the same species everywhere. 94 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:46,720 The standard practice was to clear-cut and then plant 95 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:49,400 either Pine or Fir or Spruce. 96 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:50,800 One species. 97 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:53,800 And I thought, what was going on here. 98 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:56,080 The community was not intact any more. 99 00:04:56,159 --> 00:04:57,360 It was much different 100 00:04:57,440 --> 00:04:59,640 than what I grew knowing about these forests. 101 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:01,920 I studied forestry. 102 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:03,960 and started my career the classical way. 103 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:06,000 I prescribed small clear cuts. 104 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:08,840 Cut down such beautiful old Beech trees like these. 105 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:10,600 and used insecticides. 106 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:13,520 As a teenager I wanted to become a conservationist 107 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:14,880 but I started to realize, 108 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:17,200 that I was in fact destroying everything. 109 00:05:17,280 --> 00:05:19,720 And that wasn't what I wanted. 110 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:30,520 When I looked at those trees I found that they didn't 111 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:32,800 perform that well. They didn't grow very well. 112 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:36,320 They were sickly. They weren't that healthy. 113 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:38,040 As I became a scientist 114 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:40,520 after a few years as a forester, 115 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:43,280 I started to examine why these trees didn't seem 116 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:46,080 to grow well when they were by themselves. 117 00:05:46,159 --> 00:05:49,360 I found that when we remove certain species 118 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:52,800 of their neighbors that trees actually became ill. 119 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:56,520 They became diseased and more at risk of insect attack. 120 00:05:56,600 --> 00:05:59,159 I wanted to understand why that was the case. 121 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:05,200 I thought some of the story might be going on below ground. 122 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:07,200 What we call a tree 123 00:06:07,280 --> 00:06:09,400 is only what is visible above ground. 124 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:13,120 We consider a tree to consist only of trunk and crown. 125 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:16,920 However, the major part of its life takes place underground. 126 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:19,560 What happens in the forest 127 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:22,520 is actually more than what meets the eye. 128 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:23,840 The root system of a tree 129 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:26,400 can spread as far as two to four times 130 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:28,120 the diameter of its crown. 131 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:29,720 Only scientists 132 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:31,760 with state of the art research techniques 133 00:06:31,840 --> 00:06:34,000 are able to dig deep enough into this matter 134 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:38,040 to uncover that these roots are more than only water pipes. 135 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:40,159 I started looking at the root systems 136 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:42,440 and I found that the roots of these different species 137 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:43,960 when they grew together, 138 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:46,440 Birch and Fir and Cedar and Hemlock, 139 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:49,240 were all intertwined and linked together. 140 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:52,000 I learned later on through more research 141 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:53,440 as I went into my PhD 142 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:56,000 that these root systems actually formed what is called 143 00:06:56,080 --> 00:06:58,440 a Mycorrhizal Fungal Association. 144 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:02,400 Mycorrhizal fungi are certain species of fungi 145 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:06,000 which associate with all of the tree species worldwide. 146 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:08,360 They form a mutualistic relationship 147 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:11,080 where the fungus grows into the root 148 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:13,200 and provides the root 149 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:14,400 with nutrients and water 150 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:16,240 that the fungus gathers from the soil. 151 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:21,240 Mushrooms are only the fruiting bodies of fungi. 152 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:24,480 Just like apples are the fruit of apple trees. 153 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:27,600 Fungi are very underestimated organisms 154 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:30,680 because so far most of us appreciate only the fruit. 155 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:40,280 Fungi can spread over several square kilo meters. 156 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:42,159 One teaspoon of soil may contain 157 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:44,640 several kilo meters of string like hyphae 158 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:47,480 that form the internet of the forest. 159 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:48,840 For their services, 160 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:50,600 they charge sugar and other products 161 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:52,680 of tree photosynthesis. 162 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:54,400 The tree shares up to a third 163 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:57,040 of its total production with the fungi. 164 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:01,360 We found, when we mapped these forests, 165 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:02,760 that all of the trees were 166 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:06,200 all linked together in a single massive network. 167 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:08,800 So then I thought OK, if their linked below ground 168 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:11,120 then what are these linkages about. 169 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:14,040 How does this actually affect how trees are growing. 170 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:19,400 We did some more sophisticated experiments, 171 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:22,440 once we knew that those links were there. 172 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:25,200 We labeled one tree with an isotope 173 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:27,720 and traced it from that tree to its neighbor. 174 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:30,680 We found that carbon molecules 175 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:33,679 were moving from one tree to another tree 176 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:35,919 through these mycorrhizal networks. 177 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:37,760 Then we thought 178 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:39,200 if carbon is involved, 179 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:41,919 maybe there's other molecules involved as well. 180 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:43,799 We started labeling trees 181 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:48,120 with Nitrogen and Phosphorus and deuterated water. 182 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:50,120 We found that all of these elements 183 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:52,400 move back and forth between the trees. 184 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:54,320 That was the rudimentary 185 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:56,360 understanding of the language of trees. 186 00:08:56,720 --> 00:08:58,840 So these Birch trees here 187 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:01,120 will be linked to other Birch trees, 188 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:03,600 but also to the Douglas Fir 189 00:09:03,680 --> 00:09:06,120 and the Hemlock behind it. 190 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:08,520 You can see their root-systems coming down there. 191 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:10,800 They straight into the ground. 192 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:12,040 The mycorrhizal network 193 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:16,000 is just below the surface of the forest floor. 194 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:18,920 As you walk, you are only centimeters 195 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:22,080 or millimeters away, walking on top of this network. 196 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:25,680 The network below ground can easily be imagined 197 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:26,760 as a market place, 198 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:29,400 where the food is either offered or received 199 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:32,000 by all the trees that are linked together. 200 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:33,840 But what about competition? 201 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:35,800 If all are eating at the same table, 202 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:37,800 then why don't they steal from each other 203 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:39,120 and suck each other dry, 204 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:42,080 in a struggle for the survival of the fittest? 205 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:46,040 Trees of one species are not competitors. 206 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:47,480 On the contrary, 207 00:09:47,560 --> 00:09:51,320 They actually support each other almost unconditionally. 208 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:54,680 The weak are supported by the strong. 209 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:56,760 Only together they can for example, 210 00:09:56,840 --> 00:09:58,680 regulate the micro-climate 211 00:09:58,760 --> 00:10:00,720 and lower the air temperature. 212 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:03,600 Because trees love it cool and moist. 213 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:08,200 You can almost call this Tree Communism. 214 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:09,800 And it functions perfectly, 215 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:11,400 compared to human communism. 216 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:15,280 Here, the individual is not as important as the community. 217 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:16,800 Trees do care for each other. 218 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:21,000 We think of that as an interaction between trees, 219 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:24,840 but really they're looking after each other. 220 00:10:26,560 --> 00:10:28,840 [speaking foreign language] 221 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:37,480 My Name is Sm'hayetsk. 222 00:10:37,560 --> 00:10:39,120 I'm Teresa Ryan. I'm Tsimshian. 223 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:42,120 I'm from the Gitlan tribe of the Tsimshian. 224 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:44,080 My house is Xpe Hanaax. 225 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:47,360 I'm from the Ganhada Clan; Raven. 226 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:50,360 My interest in research is the relationships 227 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:53,160 of the forests to Salmon. 228 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:55,040 I'm a Fisheries Scientist. 229 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:57,320 A Fisheries Aquatic Ecologist. 230 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:01,200 I'm also a Cedar Weaver. 231 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:03,920 A traditional Tsimshian Cedar Weaver. 232 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:07,840 We have an understanding of 233 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:10,160 these ecosystems around us 234 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:13,240 and the relationships of things within them. 235 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:17,160 In many of our languages we have 236 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:19,640 certain words to describe that. 237 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:26,360 In Sm'algyax we say "of one heart". 238 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:28,880 The Nuu-chah-nulth people on Vancouver Island 239 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:34,840 say "Everything is one". 240 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:38,200 It demonstrates those relationships 241 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:40,600 that we've known and understood for a long time. 242 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:43,720 When we mistake trees for loners, 243 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:45,840 each of them growing by themselves, 244 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:48,680 oblivious to their neighbors and to the environment, 245 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:50,800 we underestimate them by far. 246 00:11:51,560 --> 00:11:53,280 If forests are actually 247 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:54,920 not the kind of harsh environment 248 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:56,360 we expect them to be. 249 00:11:56,440 --> 00:11:58,520 Where competition determines the survival 250 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:01,560 of the strongest, fastest and toughest, 251 00:12:01,640 --> 00:12:03,200 then maybe a closer look 252 00:12:03,280 --> 00:12:05,440 might reveal even further relationships 253 00:12:05,520 --> 00:12:08,040 that go beyond our expectations. 254 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:13,200 The forest industry wants trees to grow quickly. 255 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:15,760 Initially trees do grow quite fast, 256 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:17,280 when they grow by themselves 257 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:19,280 However that is not what they prefer. 258 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:21,000 Normally trees would rather cuddle 259 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:22,880 and stand closely together. 260 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:25,400 They love company and like to take things slow. 261 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:28,440 We need to relearn that trees do not need to be separated 262 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:30,200 from alleged competitors. 263 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:32,120 On the contrary, we need to allow them 264 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:34,640 to live in tight groups just as they like it. 265 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:38,960 There is in fact friendship among trees. 266 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:40,360 It doesn't happen very often 267 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:42,240 because tree seedlings cannot choose 268 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:43,840 whom they will be growing next to 269 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:45,440 for the rest of their lives. 270 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:46,920 Maybe one out of 50 trees 271 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:48,880 will become friends with its neighbor. 272 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:50,200 Like these two. 273 00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:52,640 They grow their branches away from each other, 274 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:54,200 so that they don't interfere. 275 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:00,960 Their roots intertwine intensively. 276 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:04,800 It's like an old couple. If one of them dies 277 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:06,440 The one left behind might suffer, 278 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:08,400 and die soon after. 279 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:11,520 For a tree, 280 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:14,280 it is a disaster when the social network collapses 281 00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:16,760 You can observe this right here in this forest. 282 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:18,760 Three trees have blown over. 283 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:21,880 The remaining tree is now left by itself and gets sick. 284 00:13:21,960 --> 00:13:23,720 The tips of its branches die back. 285 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:25,440 The leaves turn earlier in the fall 286 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:27,800 so it can't photosynthesize properly 287 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:29,200 It really suffers. 288 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:31,880 In case it is not able to reconnect with other trees, 289 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:34,080 it will likely die as well. 290 00:13:34,560 --> 00:13:36,600 Do trees have a sense of friendship? 291 00:13:37,680 --> 00:13:40,640 It's language that we are using here 292 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:44,080 to describe how trees relate to each other. 293 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:47,560 In ecology we call those things interactions. 294 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:51,000 Interactions is a very clinical term. 295 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:53,520 When we think of interactions, we think of: 296 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:56,280 Do they help each other? Do they compete with each other? 297 00:13:56,360 --> 00:13:58,680 Is one a parasite or a pathogen? 298 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:01,760 Species interact in a myriad of ways. 299 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:04,240 Some of them are beneficial. 300 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:06,800 In Science we call this facilitation. 301 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:09,360 In human relations we call that friendship. 302 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:13,120 A grove of Maple Trees with Cedar in it 303 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:18,080 will indicate to us that the Cedar has enough moisture. 304 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:20,320 It's got the right moisture regime. 305 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:23,320 When Cedar and Maple are growing together, 306 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:26,680 there is a relationship with those two trees. 307 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:28,560 So it's just a matter of language. 308 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:31,800 When I think back to my early work with plantations 309 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:34,880 and we were planting single species of trees 310 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:37,520 and weeding out the species we didn't want, 311 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:39,640 I found that Douglas Fir would suffer, 312 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:41,720 when we took Birch away from it. 313 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:45,840 We were affecting that facilitation between them. 314 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:48,080 The transfer of Carbon back and forth, 315 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:50,920 the nutrition that the Birch provided for the Fir. 316 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:54,000 The resistance against the pathogens in the soil. 317 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:55,960 When we took the Birch away, 318 00:14:56,040 --> 00:14:58,160 Douglas Fir lost its friend. 319 00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:00,000 They lost its facilitator. 320 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:02,040 So is there friendship in forests? 321 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:03,640 I can use that language. 322 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:05,600 Sure there is friendship in forests. 323 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:08,480 There are mutualistic facilitative relationships 324 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:10,040 going on all the time. 325 00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:13,600 Tree connections may form bonds of friendship, 326 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:15,000 but they also link each tree 327 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:17,120 to all the others over hubs, 328 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:19,880 very similar to a computer network. 329 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:22,320 Scientists who try to visualize these connections 330 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:24,280 have been creating complex models 331 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:25,760 that look like a map. 332 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:28,720 A map of the Wood Wide Web. 333 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:33,920 We were also able to identify by looking at this map, 334 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:36,600 which trees were the most important 335 00:15:36,680 --> 00:15:37,680 part of the network. 336 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:39,800 Which ones were the most highly linked. 337 00:15:39,880 --> 00:15:41,880 We found that the biggest, oldest trees 338 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:44,120 were the most highly linked. 339 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:46,840 We ended up calling these Mother Trees, 340 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:49,920 because we discovered through this map, 341 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:53,040 that the younger ones were growing up by 342 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:54,520 hooking into the network 343 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:57,000 and growing up around these Mother Trees. 344 00:15:58,240 --> 00:16:00,200 Trees are very social beings. 345 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:02,280 The parents, the mother trees, 346 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:04,240 are looking after their offspring. 347 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:05,520 Their roots grow together 348 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:08,000 and they feed them with a sugar solution. 349 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:09,800 One could say that the mother tree 350 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:11,880 suckle their offspring. 351 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:14,320 To some it may seem strange comparing the flow 352 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:16,920 of nutrients between older trees and their kin 353 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:18,880 with human relationships. 354 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:20,840 Analogies like that, 355 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:23,440 based on the observations of a practitioner 356 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:27,040 should rather stand on a solid ground of scientific facts. 357 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:30,640 At UBC, students from the faculty of forestry 358 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:32,880 conduct basic research about the relationships 359 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:36,280 between Mother Trees and their kin. 360 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:39,280 All of our experiments involve both field 361 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:41,360 and greenhouse experiments. 362 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:44,360 We use similar techniques in both, 363 00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:47,520 to verify what is going on in the other one. 364 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:52,040 We go into a Douglas Fir forest to gather soil. 365 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:55,840 That soil has a mixture of mycorrhizal fungi 366 00:16:55,920 --> 00:16:58,600 that prefer to associate with Douglas Fir. 367 00:16:58,680 --> 00:17:01,760 We use that mixture to inoculate our trees. 368 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:05,839 We grow 'Mother trees', basically seedlings in pots, 369 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:08,000 inside mesh-bags. 370 00:17:08,079 --> 00:17:09,920 These mesh-bags would either allow 371 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:11,599 the mycorrhizal network to form 372 00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:14,640 with the neighboring seedling, or not. 373 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:16,680 We use mesh-bag to keep the roots 374 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:18,839 from going through and touching each other 375 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:21,200 and transferring between roots. 376 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:24,880 We want just the fungi to meet in the middle. 377 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:27,599 Over a period of a few months, 378 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:29,320 we allow these two seedlings, 379 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:30,840 the 'Mother Tree' and her kin, 380 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:32,400 or the 'Mother Tree' and the stranger, 381 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:34,160 to communicate with each other 382 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:37,440 through this mycorrhizal network that had formed. 383 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:39,720 We had to be able to do the experiment 384 00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:41,760 in the greenhouse, so we couldn't bring in 385 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:43,960 a big old Mother Tree and plant her in a plot. 386 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:45,200 We had to use seedlings, 387 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:48,120 because of the restrictive environment of a greenhouse. 388 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:51,560 The seedling that grew up first 389 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:56,560 was well established and had more nutrients 390 00:17:56,640 --> 00:18:00,840 to spare than the one that was planted later. 391 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:03,600 That one that was previously established 392 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:06,280 had more resources than it needed. 393 00:18:06,360 --> 00:18:09,320 It was able to shuttle some of those resources 394 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:13,680 to its little brother that was growing up next to it. 395 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:17,520 The term Mother Tree is a really nice term 396 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:20,160 because we understand the importance 397 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:22,120 of mothers in families. 398 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:25,560 It's a term that resonates with people. 399 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:30,400 But it's probably not the most scientifically accurate term. 400 00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:33,200 What we are really talking about is relatedness. 401 00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:36,320 Whether Mother Trees are related 402 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:39,960 to trees around her or new trees 403 00:18:40,040 --> 00:18:42,240 that are coming up in her neighborhood. 404 00:18:42,320 --> 00:18:47,360 It's really about whether their genetics 405 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:51,160 are well related to each other or not. 406 00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:53,280 Whether they are distant or close together. 407 00:18:53,360 --> 00:18:55,440 One of the differential responses was 408 00:18:55,520 --> 00:18:58,320 when the new seedling, 409 00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:01,400 the younger sibling if you will, 410 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:05,960 was related to the older seedling. 411 00:19:06,040 --> 00:19:09,960 the big seedling actually slowed down its growth rate. 412 00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:12,000 It appeared that it would make room 413 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:13,960 for its younger sibling to grow. 414 00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:16,760 We would label these mother trees with Carbon 13. 415 00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:20,520 Which is an isotope that we injected 416 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:22,720 into a plastic bag around the seedling. 417 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:27,240 That bag completely seals in the air. 418 00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:29,800 Then we allow the seedling to photosynthesize. 419 00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:33,080 As we apply the treatment, 420 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:37,240 the seedling is only able to photosynthesize with 13 CO2. 421 00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:41,400 Any sugars, any products that it makes will be labeled. 422 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:46,160 We then look for that C13 in the recipient plants. 423 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:49,000 Remember the recipients are either kin or stranger. 424 00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:50,400 So we'll look at the ratio 425 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:53,080 of the amount of carbon that is present. 426 00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:56,840 We bring the pots into the potting room, 427 00:19:56,920 --> 00:19:59,840 we clip them and then we clean all the roots, 428 00:19:59,920 --> 00:20:03,360 we brush-off all the dirt, we wash them 429 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:06,000 and then they are ready to be morphotyped. 430 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:08,200 We do that using a microscope. 431 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:11,160 We look for all the fungal connections on the root-tips. 432 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:14,520 After that they are ready to be dried. 433 00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:17,200 We do that in a large drying oven. 434 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:20,480 After that each one of those portions 435 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:25,120 is frozen separately using liquid nitrogen. 436 00:20:25,360 --> 00:20:27,440 Then you are able to grind them 437 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:29,360 using mortar and pestle. 438 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:32,120 That creates a powder 439 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:35,960 that is weighed in very small increments. 440 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:40,720 We send those to the lab for some micro-spectroscopy. 441 00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:44,680 to evaluate how much C13 is in the sample. 442 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:49,680 And we found out that seedlings that were kin seedlings 443 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:53,160 were receiving more Carbon from Mother Trees 444 00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:55,600 than strangers were. 445 00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:59,040 Then it starts to look like a family. 446 00:20:59,120 --> 00:21:01,720 The Mother Tree is nurturing her own family 447 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:04,640 but she is also looking out for her whole neighborhood. 448 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:07,440 So it's not just a family. 449 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:09,760 It's a whole community of trees. 450 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:14,600 Each with their own role to play in the forest. 451 00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:16,320 Mothers who care lovingly 452 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:18,400 for their neighborhood and their children? 453 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:19,960 Also Peter Wohlleben 454 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:22,240 has a way of expressing the behaviors of trees 455 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:24,120 in a very humanized language. 456 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:26,560 When guiding groups of visitors through his forest, 457 00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:28,520 this helps to make biological mechanisms 458 00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:30,560 understandable for everyone. 459 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:32,160 When he talks about tree families 460 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:33,640 he goes further by claiming 461 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:36,240 that they even provide a good education. 462 00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:40,480 This a typical Beech kindergarten. 463 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:43,680 Beech trees grow up in groups, just like this one. 464 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:46,160 Parents raise their children very strictly. 465 00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:48,480 by limiting the available light. 466 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:51,240 Only three percent of the sunlight reaches the ground. 467 00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:54,840 So that the small trees need to stretch to the remaining light. 468 00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:57,920 The benefit of this is that they grow straight trunks 469 00:21:58,000 --> 00:21:59,920 Which can resist strong winds. 470 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:02,480 However like in any class or kindergarten, 471 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:05,200 there are little rascals that do as they please. 472 00:22:05,360 --> 00:22:07,200 They grow this way, they grow that way. 473 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:09,840 They think "I don't have to stretch towards the light" 474 00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:11,600 Slowly their classmates surpass them 475 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:13,400 and switch off the last bit of light 476 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:15,000 so that they die off. 477 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:16,920 Eventually, from this entire bunch 478 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:19,840 Only one or two trees will remain to grow old. 479 00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:22,440 We discovered that the Mother Tree 480 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:24,680 was affecting how those seedlings grew. 481 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:28,320 So if we changed the linkages 482 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:29,920 or we removed them, 483 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:32,960 those seedlings would behave differently. 484 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:35,480 They would either grow worse 485 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:37,120 or they would grow better. 486 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:39,160 What we were gathering from this: 487 00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:40,960 If the Mother Tree was trying 488 00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:43,320 to make a favorable place for her seedlings 489 00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:45,480 then she would encourage their growth, 490 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:48,520 so send more nutrients to those seedlings 491 00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:50,280 and they would grow better. 492 00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:52,120 If the Mother Tree knew that 493 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:53,560 the environment around her 494 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:56,040 was not very hospitable for her young, 495 00:22:56,120 --> 00:22:58,000 in other words, if there were diseases 496 00:22:58,080 --> 00:22:59,240 or insects around, 497 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:02,440 she would it make more difficult for those seedlings to grow. 498 00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:04,280 She would be antagonistic towards them 499 00:23:04,360 --> 00:23:06,320 or become more competitive. 500 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:08,920 This said to me that 501 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:12,400 the Mother Tree was communicating with her young, 502 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:15,520 in order to favor the survival of those seedlings, 503 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:18,080 whether they should be further away or close to her 504 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:20,920 depending on how favorable the environment was. 505 00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:23,320 We are doing these experiments 506 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:24,640 out in the forest as well. 507 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:27,080 So we'll go to big old Mother Trees 508 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:29,600 and grow seedlings that are related 509 00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:31,520 or distantly related to her 510 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:33,200 and see how they perform. 511 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:36,040 So we will verify what we are seeing in the greenhouse 512 00:23:36,120 --> 00:23:38,160 with what's going on in the forest. 513 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:40,720 Trees are studied and measured, 514 00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:42,520 cultivated and cut. 515 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:44,200 They seem defenseless, 516 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:46,720 because they can't run away from any threat. 517 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:48,040 Some plants however, 518 00:23:48,120 --> 00:23:51,680 have developed amazing skills to react to attacks. 519 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:53,040 The response of this Mimosa 520 00:23:53,120 --> 00:23:54,440 makes it obvious 521 00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:57,200 that even plants don't like to be hurt. 522 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:00,720 Trees have feelings. 523 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:02,160 They can feel pain. 524 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:04,840 But can also have emotions such as fear. 525 00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:08,720 This is apparent for example, in this Oak behind us. 526 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:10,760 It grows these clusters of twigs. 527 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:12,520 Signs of great distress. 528 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:15,160 But the Oak will behave differently if for example, 529 00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:17,920 attacked by insects that bore into its bark. 530 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:19,480 It would feel pain. 531 00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:21,880 Electrical signals would run through its fiber 532 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:25,360 and the Oak would accumulate defense substances. 533 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:27,840 At the same time it will alarm its colleagues 534 00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:29,960 via root networks and fungi. 535 00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:32,800 So that they could already accumulate defense substances 536 00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:35,080 although they haven't been attacked yet. 537 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:38,920 Once the insects arrive, the other Oaks will be prepared. 538 00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:43,480 A forest is much healthier and more resistant 539 00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:46,280 when individual trees warn the rest of the community. 540 00:24:46,360 --> 00:24:49,200 as soon as they realize something is wrong. 541 00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:51,240 At the same time that we were looking 542 00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:53,480 at Carbon transfer, or this energy transfer, 543 00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:56,840 we were also looking at defense signal transfers 544 00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:58,600 through these mycorrhizal networks. 545 00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:01,240 It's mysterious that a plant 546 00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:05,800 would leak these particular compounds 547 00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:07,640 and that a fungus would pick them up 548 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:11,720 and transmit them through their hyphae 549 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:13,080 to another plant. 550 00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:14,560 We haven't seen this before, 551 00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:16,200 this flow of signaling molecules. 552 00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:19,480 We're trying to figure out what these signals are. 553 00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:21,320 We have an idea that there are certain 554 00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:23,240 compounds involved. 555 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:26,080 What happens is that the injured seedling 556 00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:27,760 sends defense signals. 557 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:29,680 The seedling that receives the signal, 558 00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:31,560 or that piece of communication, 559 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:34,280 those words, if you can think of it that way, 560 00:25:34,360 --> 00:25:37,920 Then they up-regulate their defense genes. 561 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:41,320 Those genes start to produce more defense enzymes. 562 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:44,440 Those enzymes increase the defense of those seedlings 563 00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:47,080 against the attack by those insects. 564 00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:50,200 When you are scared, 565 00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:54,200 your body is producing chemicals 566 00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:57,640 that are telling your whole body 567 00:25:57,760 --> 00:25:59,320 that you are scared. 568 00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:02,320 It's getting your legs ready to run, 569 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:04,800 and your arms ready to do whatever they need to do. 570 00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:08,400 Those chemicals are specific for that purpose. 571 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:11,080 If those would leak out of your feet 572 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:13,600 and something in the ground, 573 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:15,040 let's say a fungus, 574 00:26:15,120 --> 00:26:17,360 would pick up those chemicals 575 00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:20,400 and transmit them through the ground. 576 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:22,520 and someone else standing nearby 577 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:24,960 would pick up those chemicals through their feet 578 00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:26,120 and get scared, 579 00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:27,720 because they would get those 580 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:29,240 scary chemicals in their body. 581 00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:31,680 That's what we are looking at with the trees. 582 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:33,200 This guy gets scared 583 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:35,840 it's sending those chemicals among its own body 584 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:37,840 and then they go out into the roots. 585 00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:39,680 The question is, whether the fungi, 586 00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:42,320 which are an entirely different organism, 587 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:43,880 not a tree, 588 00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:47,240 are moving those chemicals through the ground. 589 00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:50,160 and if those are being picked up by the other trees. 590 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:52,560 Specifically, I am looking at 591 00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:54,800 defense signals, which I induce 592 00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:56,960 using Western Spruce Budworm 593 00:26:57,040 --> 00:26:58,120 onto Douglas Fir. 594 00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:01,520 The tree that has the Western Spruce Budworm 595 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:03,600 elicits a response from the tree 596 00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:07,080 which is sent into the mycorrhizal network 597 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:10,000 and gets transferred to an adjacent seedling 598 00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:12,360 that is attached via a mycorrhizal network. 599 00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:14,520 Two plants in a pot. 600 00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:16,120 They are Douglas Fir seedlings; 601 00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:17,920 which is what we tend to use, 602 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:22,640 they form strong mycorrhizal networks. 603 00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:25,520 They are planted inside mesh-bags. 604 00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:28,640 Those mesh-bags can either be very small 605 00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:31,600 in their pore-size and block mycorrhizal networks 606 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:34,600 or a bit larger and allow mycorrhizal networks. 607 00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:37,000 So we compare treatments, where they are networks 608 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:38,640 to treatment where there are not, 609 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:40,920 and see if that transfer occurs. 610 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:44,280 This is where we place the Spruce Budworms 611 00:27:44,360 --> 00:27:49,360 and entice them to eat these little budding areas. 612 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:52,400 You clip off the branches 613 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:54,680 and then you dip them in liquid nitrogen. 614 00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:56,400 You scrape off the needles 615 00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:58,640 and put the stem in another vile. 616 00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:01,280 You dip it in liquid nitrogen, 617 00:28:01,360 --> 00:28:05,440 because you want to freeze what is happening. 618 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:07,360 You measure gene expression 619 00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:08,720 by looking at RNA, 620 00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:12,560 which is a really short-lived chemical. 621 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:14,360 It can degrade very quickly. 622 00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:17,280 You want to take it off the live plant 623 00:28:17,360 --> 00:28:19,640 and dip it in the liquid nitrogen 624 00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:20,920 as fast as you can. 625 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:23,080 The defense signals, or the warning signals, 626 00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:25,240 are happening really quickly. 627 00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:27,280 So when there is an injury, 628 00:28:27,360 --> 00:28:30,880 there is an almost instant communication. 629 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:34,160 There is an immediate up-regulation of genes 630 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:35,520 that increases the defense. 631 00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:39,640 It is actually knowledge that is being passed on 632 00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:42,320 from the seedling that is injured to the new one. 633 00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:45,040 That knowledge, is based in wisdom. 634 00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:48,280 I think of it more as passing on wisdom. 635 00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:50,880 [BURIAL FOREST] 636 00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:53,960 [โ™ชโ™ชโ™ช] 637 00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:03,240 It's important for a forest to sustain all its members. 638 00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:05,840 Including old and dying trees. 639 00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:07,640 Even stumps that you would expect 640 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:09,280 to have died 100's of years ago 641 00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:11,320 are being kept alive. 642 00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:14,880 Possibly they have stored memories that they can pass on. 643 00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:18,160 This is an ancient stump, 644 00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:20,000 and it is still alive. 645 00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:22,280 The inner part of the tree, the hardwood. 646 00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:23,360 Is without life. 647 00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:25,160 Much like dead bone. 648 00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:28,000 That's why this one is rotten inside. 649 00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:31,280 In trees, life is located in the sapwood. 650 00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:32,680 In the cambium, 651 00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:34,440 and in the roots. 652 00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:37,400 And all of this is still alive in this one here. 653 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:38,920 The question is, 654 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:40,840 how can this be possible? 655 00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:42,600 It doesn't have any more leaves 656 00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:44,440 to photosynthesize and nourish itself. 657 00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:47,880 Still, it must consume sugar, otherwise it would die. 658 00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:49,840 The only possible explanation 659 00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:51,400 is that this tree over there 660 00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:53,920 keeps the stump alive via root connections, 661 00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:55,360 that are running across here. 662 00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:57,240 It appears very social and touching 663 00:29:57,320 --> 00:29:59,720 that this old stump is still being nurtured. 664 00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:03,080 The forest's own nursery home for the elderly. 665 00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:07,440 When trees are cut, 666 00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:10,720 fall over or break over with the wind 667 00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:12,640 the stump continues to live. 668 00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:14,280 We can tell that it's living, 669 00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:16,760 because the cambium in the bark 670 00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:19,120 grow over the top of the stump. 671 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:21,040 There is no way it will grow into a new tree, 672 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:23,000 because is there is no seed 673 00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:24,800 or there is no epical meristem there. 674 00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:27,360 The stump is still alive, 675 00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:30,080 because it's root systems are grafted 676 00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:31,880 to its neighbors, 677 00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:32,960 or they are linked in 678 00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:35,080 through their mycorrhizal networks, or both. 679 00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:37,200 When you have that pathway, 680 00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:40,640 the trees that are alive around it 681 00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:44,280 are sending Carbon from the foliage 682 00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:46,160 down into the root systems of the stump 683 00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:47,920 and keeping that stump alive. 684 00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:51,240 Where does a tree store its information? 685 00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:54,200 How valuable is such a stump to the community? 686 00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:57,520 So far, we don't know where a tree's memory is located 687 00:30:57,600 --> 00:30:59,320 and where it stores experiences. 688 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:01,080 For example, 689 00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:03,120 droughts that occurred a long time ago 690 00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:06,560 can influence a tree's behavior over many years. 691 00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:10,000 This demonstrates they store this information somewhere 692 00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:13,520 It is quite likely that this storage sits partially 693 00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:15,520 or even entirely in the roots. 694 00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:18,280 An ancient stump like this might pass on its knowledge 695 00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:20,920 to the neighboring trees and it's descendants. 696 00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:24,880 It's now known that processes occur in the root tips 697 00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:27,160 which are quite similar to those of the brain. 698 00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:30,720 Obviously it is presumptuous to claim that trees 699 00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:32,640 have a brain just like animals. 700 00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:36,040 However, they make decisions within seconds 701 00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:38,600 that are partially processed electrically. 702 00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:41,680 All of this takes place in the roots. 703 00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:44,960 So maybe, we can call this a tree brain. 704 00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:48,080 Through these various experiments 705 00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:51,200 and our discoveries, I've started to think about 706 00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:54,600 the root systems of trees in forests 707 00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:56,680 as the brains of the forest. 708 00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:59,800 There is a number of reasons for this. 709 00:31:59,880 --> 00:32:03,680 First it's the pattern of these connections, 710 00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:05,760 the pattern of the network. 711 00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:09,000 When we look at how it's arranged, 712 00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:12,480 it's very much like how a brain is organized. 713 00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:17,640 There are certain central hubs in forests, 714 00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:19,440 where things are highly connected. 715 00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:21,200 Then there are satellite nodes, 716 00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:23,040 where things are less connected. 717 00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:24,920 If you look at a neural network, 718 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:27,680 it's patterned very much in the same way. 719 00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:34,760 Secondly, the idea that there are chemicals 720 00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:38,040 that are transmitting from a mycorrhizal root-tip 721 00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:41,040 or root of one tree through the mycorrhizal network 722 00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:42,160 to another tree. 723 00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:44,280 This is like in our brains 724 00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:45,800 we have neurotransmitters. 725 00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:47,880 It's not that much different than 726 00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:52,520 Carbon, Methyl Jasmonate, Nitrogen and water 727 00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:53,640 moving back and forth 728 00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:55,400 through these mycorrhizal networks. 729 00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:58,760 There is another part to the story as well. 730 00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:00,480 In dying Pine forests, for example, 731 00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:02,920 that are attacked by Mountain Pine Beetle, 732 00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:07,080 those dying trees affect the mycorrhizal communities. 733 00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:10,200 Seedlings in healthy forests 734 00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:12,320 have a better suite of defense enzymes 735 00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:14,600 than those from dying forests. 736 00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:17,960 We know that it's not just a Carbon legacy 737 00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:20,560 that is passed on, it's also messages 738 00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:22,840 about the defense chemistry 739 00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:24,800 of the new seedlings coming up. 740 00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:28,840 We really need to think more carefully 741 00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:31,120 about how we manage these dying forests. 742 00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:35,480 We will be dealing with this more and more. 743 00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:38,880 Tree species will be changing as the climate changes. 744 00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:40,480 There's going to be a mortality. 745 00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:42,800 Our response has been to cut those trees down 746 00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:44,440 as quickly as possible, 747 00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:46,640 make them into two-by-fours and sell them. 748 00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:49,920 You can easily see that 749 00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:52,720 by doing that we're cutting off the opportunity 750 00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:54,480 for the old trees, the dying trees, 751 00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:57,440 to pass their legacy onto the new generations. 752 00:33:57,520 --> 00:33:59,400 When we cut down trees, 753 00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:02,200 not only do we disturb the micro-climate of the forest, 754 00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:04,760 But also the relationship between the trees. 755 00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:05,880 They become loners, 756 00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:07,480 and we won't be able to observe 757 00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:10,159 these wonderful processes anymore. 758 00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:13,120 Managed forests are a convenient way 759 00:34:13,199 --> 00:34:14,920 to transform the natural disorder 760 00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:17,480 into efficient, fast growing plantations 761 00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:18,920 of rogue trees. 762 00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:20,840 It's getting quiet. 763 00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:23,360 Planted forests don't talk much. 764 00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:28,080 Plantations are like a group of only children 765 00:34:28,159 --> 00:34:29,880 without parental guidance. 766 00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:33,800 These trees are planted with clipped and damaged roots. 767 00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:36,280 which results in disrupted communication. 768 00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:39,080 Along with many other dysfunctions. 769 00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:45,520 The trees are forced to fend for themselves. 770 00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:47,560 Which leaves them more vulnerable. 771 00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:49,560 If a tree suffers, 772 00:34:49,639 --> 00:34:52,159 it won't receive help from its neighbors. 773 00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:54,280 If one thrives and could share, 774 00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:56,239 It would rather grow a little faster. 775 00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:58,200 Which is also not healthy. 776 00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:02,240 In a forest, speed is always negative. 777 00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:08,800 In Germany there are no more pristine forests left. 778 00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:11,120 In the past centuries, numerous activities 779 00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:13,160 took place everywhere in the forests. 780 00:35:13,240 --> 00:35:16,160 Here for example, charcoal production took place. 781 00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:19,280 This forest will likely be very close to natural again, 782 00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:21,280 In about 100 to 200 years. 783 00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:24,560 Only very few places like this still exist in Germany. 784 00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:26,520 But currently the forest industry 785 00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:28,440 is becoming increasingly radical 786 00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:30,920 and more wood is being harvested. 787 00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:33,400 Sadly we are turning back the clock. 788 00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:36,280 [heavy machinery] 789 00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:40,840 These plantations are increasingly managed 790 00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:42,040 with heavy machinery, 791 00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:44,280 and these machines compress the soil. 792 00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:46,000 They destroy the pore volume 793 00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:48,240 and life in the soils suffocates. 794 00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:50,000 This includes also the fungi 795 00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:53,280 which are extremely important for communication between trees. 796 00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:57,880 Most machines have wide tires 797 00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:01,120 so damage caused is not so visible on the surface. 798 00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:03,280 However compaction remains 799 00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:05,840 and increases with the size of the tires. 800 00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:09,040 The soil becomes compacted down to two meters. 801 00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:11,840 This is comparable to a sponge that has been squeezed. 802 00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:14,880 But unlike a sponge, soil doesn't recover. 803 00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:18,160 Pore size is lost along with Oxygen content. 804 00:36:18,240 --> 00:36:20,440 Compared to before in some cases, 805 00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:23,640 only as little as five percent of the water can be stored. 806 00:36:23,720 --> 00:36:25,680 This is extremely dangerous for trees 807 00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:27,320 because here, during summer, 808 00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:30,000 trees depend on winter precipitation. 809 00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:32,000 And if this can't be stored anymore, 810 00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:34,480 the trees may die of thirst during summer. 811 00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:36,600 According to geologists, 812 00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:40,040 soil damage below 20 cm remains beyond repair 813 00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:42,560 until the next Ice-age. 814 00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:54,640 In horse logging, 815 00:36:54,720 --> 00:36:58,520 harvested stems are first cut to a maximum of 5 m. 816 00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:01,240 A length that a horse can handle. 817 00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:04,800 The horse navigates gently around big and small trees, 818 00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:08,600 and barely causes any damage. 819 00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:17,200 Even today, horse logging could be done on a large scale. 820 00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:20,040 However most horse loggers don't find enough work. 821 00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:22,000 Because there isn't sufficient demand 822 00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:23,360 One could argue that 823 00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:25,800 if all harvesting were done only with horses 824 00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:28,320 it would exceed the number of horses available. 825 00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:30,800 That may be true but when the demand grew, 826 00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:33,880 more people would be motivated to practice horse logging. 827 00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:36,520 It is a wonderful job that has already been practiced 828 00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:37,880 For thousands of years. 829 00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:41,160 I am certain that today it could be just as successful. 830 00:37:41,240 --> 00:37:43,160 Obviously we would need more personnel 831 00:37:43,240 --> 00:37:44,720 to replace large machinery. 832 00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:47,280 One harvester replaces 12 workers. 833 00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:51,000 If we could turn back time, we could create 12 new jobs. 834 00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:53,480 Interestingly enough, this pays off. 835 00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:55,880 We earn more because we preserve the soil 836 00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:57,920 and the forest is more productive. 837 00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:00,360 It grows more wood and better quality. 838 00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:02,480 While we generate more jobs. 839 00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:04,440 More money, more jobs. 840 00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:06,160 I like that. 841 00:38:06,240 --> 00:38:08,680 We didn't treat forests like families at all. 842 00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:12,920 We've treated them like rows of corn plants, basically. 843 00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:16,440 This new understanding that we suddenly had, 844 00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:19,920 that Mother Trees were linked to all these seedlings 845 00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:22,880 and other trees below ground and favoring her kin, 846 00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:25,800 completely turned the idea of how 847 00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:27,640 we manage forests upside down. 848 00:38:27,720 --> 00:38:30,000 Now, instead of rows of trees, 849 00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:31,360 it's families of trees. 850 00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:33,880 How you treat a family of trees 851 00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:35,920 is going to be very different 852 00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:39,000 than how you would treat individual rows of trees. 853 00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:42,840 As a forester, you like to think that you are helping the forest. 854 00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:45,160 But in fact, its comparable to a small child 855 00:38:45,240 --> 00:38:46,840 that fiddles with the clockwork, 856 00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:49,600 thinking that it can make it run smoother afterwards. 857 00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:52,560 That means we need to keep out of such an ecosystem 858 00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:53,960 if we want it to function. 859 00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:56,120 We can take something every once in a while 860 00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:58,040 but once we start to destroy things 861 00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:01,160 we will eventually reach a point of no return. 862 00:39:01,240 --> 00:39:03,360 We as humans make great demands. 863 00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:05,160 We want to be warm during the winter 864 00:39:05,240 --> 00:39:06,960 so we heat our homes with wood. 865 00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:09,080 We want furniture. We want to use paper. 866 00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:10,680 That's OK, but obviously 867 00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:13,720 this clashes with the idea of an intact forest. 868 00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:16,080 We should be aware that when we use a chainsaw 869 00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:17,760 we can't be doing any good. 870 00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:20,600 We pretty much slaughter a tree. 871 00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:28,000 [chainsaw buzzing] 872 00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:35,240 [giant crash] 873 00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:37,320 As long as there is a certain limit to it, 874 00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:39,040 the forest will be able to cope. 875 00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:41,720 But if we take too much it will be destroyed. 876 00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:45,080 What every one of us can do to take better care of forests, 877 00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:47,680 is simply to reduce consumption. 878 00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:49,840 With over seven billion people, 879 00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:52,920 we can't be going on at this level. 880 00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:57,840 Is this a survival of the fittest after all? 881 00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:00,400 We use trees to provide wood for our homes, 882 00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:04,680 which we then build where once these trees used to be. 883 00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:07,600 Our cities grow and displace the forests. 884 00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:09,480 Have we unwillingly turned to enemies, 885 00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:11,640 who compete for the same ground? 886 00:40:11,720 --> 00:40:15,000 Is there an alternative to how we treat forests, 887 00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:16,720 so that we are able to coexist 888 00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:18,920 and preserve what is still left? 889 00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:21,400 In the world of forestry, 890 00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:26,280 foresters generally don't pay any attention to it. 891 00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:29,160 They either don't know about it 892 00:40:29,240 --> 00:40:34,640 or they're so wrapped up in the traditional ways 893 00:40:34,720 --> 00:40:35,960 of practicing forestry. 894 00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:41,160 They've become so rigid in how they do things, 895 00:40:41,240 --> 00:40:44,360 that the idea, that things can be connected below ground 896 00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:46,840 and therefore, to conserve those connections 897 00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:49,680 would mean doing forestry in a very different way. 898 00:40:51,240 --> 00:40:53,400 We need to change terminology. 899 00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:55,920 We shouldn't claim that we are tending to the forest 900 00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:58,720 when we are in fact utilizing wood. 901 00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:01,120 Just as a butcher is not an animal keeper, 902 00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:03,640 a forester is no forest keeper. 903 00:41:03,720 --> 00:41:06,040 Once we realize that we always destroy something 904 00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:07,440 when we use a chainsaw, 905 00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:09,920 we might start to treat the forest more carefully. 906 00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:14,880 I think that there is an enormous opportunity 907 00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:18,240 to transform how we practice forestry, 908 00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:21,880 so that our forest are more wise, 909 00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:24,480 have their language intact, 910 00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:26,560 have their families intact. 911 00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:28,600 They're going to be around in the future. 912 00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:31,200 Whereas the planted forests that we are putting back, 913 00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:33,760 where we don't conserve those features, 914 00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:35,640 or those qualities of a community, 915 00:41:35,720 --> 00:41:38,320 those ones will be way more at risk. 916 00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:41,840 Just like if we become isolated in our societies, 917 00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:43,400 we are more at risk. 918 00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:45,920 It's not any different than forests. 919 00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:50,360 The municipality of Hรผmmel, where I'm a forest ranger. 920 00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:53,000 Has placed all of the remaining Beech tree forests 921 00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:54,560 under protection. 922 00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:56,520 That's very rare in Germany. 923 00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:59,840 At over 200, these Beech trees are comparatively old. 924 00:41:59,920 --> 00:42:01,680 Here they can live their social lives 925 00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:03,760 entirely undisturbed. 926 00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:06,960 Only in forests like this, can one observe the intact 927 00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:09,000 social life of trees. 928 00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:11,120 It is possible to manage forests so gently, 929 00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:14,160 that they can emulate pristine forest processes. 930 00:42:14,240 --> 00:42:17,320 But that means removing only single trees here and there. 931 00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:20,160 Leaving the rest of the social community alone. 932 00:42:20,240 --> 00:42:21,720 Planting, tending, 933 00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:23,520 producing great wood qualities. 934 00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:26,000 Trees can manage this all by themselves. 935 00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:27,520 We can pretty much sit back. 936 00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:32,040 When people hear about connections below ground 937 00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:35,880 and that there is mothering going on in forests, 938 00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:38,640 people immediate say: "Of course, 939 00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:40,160 I see this all the time. 940 00:42:40,240 --> 00:42:42,080 I knew this all the time." 941 00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:45,080 I am so glad that you've done the science 942 00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:48,680 that validates what I've always felt about a forest. 943 00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:52,480 To me, that's hugely powerful. 944 00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:55,200 There's already a sense out there. 945 00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:57,280 We as humans are part of that forest 946 00:42:57,360 --> 00:42:59,800 and what we're perceiving is really valuable. 947 00:42:59,880 --> 00:43:02,000 We should be paying attention to that, 948 00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:03,160 because it's true. 949 00:43:03,240 --> 00:43:05,760 It's true in our hearts and it's true in the forest. 950 00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:09,880 To me that's a super important message 951 00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:11,480 that this is a natural fit. 952 00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:13,760 It's a natural fit in forests 953 00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:16,560 and it's a natural fit with how we interact with forests. 954 00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:18,760 It's something we can learn from forests 955 00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:22,680 to bring to our own sense of community and family as well. 956 00:43:23,720 --> 00:43:26,480 Hopefully scientists like Suzanne Simard 957 00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:28,480 and observers like Peter Wohlleben 958 00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:31,440 are able to change the way we look at trees. 959 00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:33,960 Looking at nature has often helped engineers 960 00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:37,640 to find inspiration for groundbreaking inventions. 961 00:43:37,720 --> 00:43:40,000 Looking at the forest might inspire us to live 962 00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:41,840 in a healthy human community 963 00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:45,600 that appreciates the natural processes surrounding us. 964 00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:53,160 Next time we take a walk in the forest 965 00:43:53,240 --> 00:43:55,560 and ask ourselves if trees can talk, 966 00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:58,080 the answer lies below the surface. 967 00:43:58,160 --> 00:43:59,800 Trees do talk. 968 00:43:59,880 --> 00:44:02,840 What they want to tell us remains yet to be uncovered. 969 00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:04,800 Maybe all they say is, 970 00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:05,920 "Let us be." 971 00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:07,520 Can you imagine, being a tree 972 00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:09,040 living by yourself? 973 00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:10,440 Without neighbors? 974 00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:12,720 Without others around to care for you? 975 00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:15,560 Trees don't do well when they're by themselves. 976 00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:19,880 They blow over, or they get too much sun 977 00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:21,160 or too much water 978 00:44:21,240 --> 00:44:23,560 or they're more at risk of getting a disease. 979 00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:25,600 But when they are in a community 980 00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:29,120 and they have neighbors around that protect them, 981 00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:30,800 they are caring for each other. 982 00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:32,120 They're making sure they 983 00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:34,240 are a productive, healthy, vibrant, 984 00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:37,440 diverse community of trees. 985 00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:39,160 Families of trees. 986 00:44:41,240 --> 00:44:47,080 [โ™ชโ™ชโ™ช] 71644

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