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‫Hello, I'm Marshall Goldsmith, I'm here with my wonderful friend and co-author Sally Helgason, World
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‫Authority on Women in Leadership in our new book, How Women Rise.
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‫We talk about classic challenges faced by successful leaders, especially women leaders, on their journey
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‫to the top and give us some ideas that are particularly suited to help women achieve greater levels
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‫of power and influence in large organizations.
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‫One of my favorite chapters is called Ruminate.
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‫Don't Ruminate So Much.
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‫Tell me what you mean by ruminate.
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‫I love this ruminate research.
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‫Neurological research shows that women spend a lot more time ruminating, that is thinking about things
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‫going over them.
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‫What did I say?
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‫How did that land?
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‫How did he feel?
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‫Oh, my goodness.
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‫Marshall's nodding in a certain way.
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‫Does he really mean that is his not stern trying to over interpret the environment and wondering what
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‫you would have done differently, beating yourself up for not having handled something like the perfect,
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‫wonderful person that you aspire to be, etc.?
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‫It's a more common thing for women than men.
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‫A lot of research showing that and it's not helpful.
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‫I got a question they'll tell to tell everybody ruminate.
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‫What does that term come from?
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‫I like this.
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‫Part of the term ruminate comes from cows.
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‫Cows are known as ruminants.
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‫That is because they can only extract protein from the herbs and grasses they eat when they chew it
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‫and chew it and chew it before it goes to the first and second stomach.
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‫So if you're ruminant, you can extract a lot of protein by continually chewing, chewing the cod,
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‫as we call it.
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‫But if you are a human being chewing over what you think you did, how you could have handled it differently,
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‫how you might have said it differently, you're not going to get any protein out of that.
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‫You're going to keep yourself stuck.
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‫I love a phrase rumination is for cows, so don't over ruminate.
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‫Yeah.
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