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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:08,206 --> 00:00:13,931 It is the first and most highly documented alien abduction story ever told. 2 00:00:18,931 --> 00:00:21,241 Betty and Barney Hill, 3 00:00:21,275 --> 00:00:25,896 a couple in love were driving back from their honeymoon... 4 00:00:27,310 --> 00:00:30,793 when they were kidnapped by a UFO. 5 00:00:38,137 --> 00:00:40,310 Now clasp your hands in front of you. 6 00:00:40,311 --> 00:00:41,654 As they get tighter, you're going to sleep. 7 00:00:41,655 --> 00:00:44,206 You're going to a deep, deep sleep. Your eyes... 8 00:00:44,241 --> 00:00:46,758 Rare interviews under hypnosis, 9 00:00:46,793 --> 00:00:51,172 detail how alien beings subjected the couple 10 00:00:51,206 --> 00:00:53,034 to disturbing experiments. 11 00:01:01,758 --> 00:01:03,413 Newly uncovered evidence 12 00:01:03,448 --> 00:01:07,137 and declassified government documents confirm 13 00:01:07,172 --> 00:01:10,000 what happened to Betty and Barney was real. 14 00:01:15,241 --> 00:01:17,620 We are not alone. 15 00:01:17,655 --> 00:01:20,379 Extraterrestrials do exist. 16 00:01:23,137 --> 00:01:25,965 But what do they want from us? 17 00:01:52,551 --> 00:01:55,379 It was just an ordinary day in America. 18 00:01:57,103 --> 00:02:02,241 Betty, a social worker and Barney, a US postal employee 19 00:02:02,275 --> 00:02:06,275 were driving home after their honeymoon in Niagara Falls. 20 00:02:06,310 --> 00:02:09,413 A trip as their niece Kathleen explains, 21 00:02:09,448 --> 00:02:12,068 they would never forget. 22 00:02:12,103 --> 00:02:15,068 Betty and Barney had a wonderful time in Niagara Falls. 23 00:02:19,034 --> 00:02:23,586 They spent the following afternoon in Montreal. 24 00:02:23,620 --> 00:02:27,172 They thought about spending the night downtown. 25 00:02:27,206 --> 00:02:31,000 But they heard that there was a hurricane whirling up the coast. 26 00:02:32,206 --> 00:02:36,413 And they wanted to drive through the night if they could. 27 00:02:43,551 --> 00:02:48,448 I was 13 years old and I had arrived home from school in the afternoon. 28 00:02:53,206 --> 00:02:56,896 My mother was on the phone with my aunt, Betty. 29 00:02:56,931 --> 00:03:01,413 And I heard my mother's side of the conversation. 30 00:03:01,448 --> 00:03:04,000 When my mother hung up the phone, 31 00:03:04,034 --> 00:03:06,931 she told me that Betty and Barney 32 00:03:06,965 --> 00:03:11,344 had seen a flying saucer up close the night before, 33 00:03:11,379 --> 00:03:14,724 they were concerned that they might have been contaminated. 34 00:03:16,379 --> 00:03:18,482 I was in shock. 35 00:03:18,517 --> 00:03:21,172 I thought this was very, very strange. 36 00:03:30,965 --> 00:03:33,758 This is a 1966 radio interview 37 00:03:33,793 --> 00:03:36,689 with Betty and Barney in their own words. 38 00:03:37,482 --> 00:03:38,551 Now, as I understand it, 39 00:03:38,586 --> 00:03:41,034 we have to go back to 1961 to start this, 40 00:03:41,068 --> 00:03:43,103 this whole incident, don't we? 41 00:03:43,137 --> 00:03:46,068 Yes, that's right. September 19th, 1961. 42 00:03:48,172 --> 00:03:51,965 The night that changed their lives forever. 43 00:04:56,103 --> 00:04:59,413 Betty had never seen a satellite before. 44 00:04:59,448 --> 00:05:03,965 She knew that her father was very interested in satellites. 45 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:07,655 And so, Betty wondered could this be a satellite? 46 00:05:07,689 --> 00:05:12,000 But then, she thought, no, it's not behaving like a satellite. 47 00:05:26,517 --> 00:05:29,517 It's clear at this point, this was not a satellite. 48 00:05:29,551 --> 00:05:31,379 It does a circle. 49 00:05:31,413 --> 00:05:36,068 It seems to fly away to the west and then come back directly towards them. 50 00:05:38,551 --> 00:05:41,344 Barney is coming up with the other explanations. 51 00:05:41,379 --> 00:05:43,551 Maybe it's a passenger jet. 52 00:05:43,586 --> 00:05:45,862 Maybe it's a military helicopter. 53 00:05:45,896 --> 00:05:50,103 He's got all these explanations because that's how he thinks. 54 00:06:23,965 --> 00:06:27,517 Privately, he knew that this was unusual. 55 00:06:27,551 --> 00:06:33,000 But he said to Betty, "Oh, it's just a piper cub or a commercial airliner. 56 00:06:33,034 --> 00:06:37,103 Don't even think about that and let's get home. 57 00:06:47,586 --> 00:06:50,310 But then, as they continue driving south, 58 00:06:50,344 --> 00:06:54,172 Betty notices the aircraft appears to be stalking them. 59 00:06:55,793 --> 00:06:58,724 Betty said to Barney, "It's coming closer, Barney." 60 00:06:58,758 --> 00:07:03,172 As they looked at it, it flew in a zigzag pattern 61 00:07:03,206 --> 00:07:08,689 and then it appeared to bounce back and forth in the sky like a ping-pong ball. 62 00:07:11,068 --> 00:07:12,620 Barney starts to panic. 63 00:07:29,620 --> 00:07:33,689 Up until now, the sighting had been at quite a distance. 64 00:07:36,103 --> 00:07:40,413 But now that they've driven down the road, several miles and they look up. 65 00:07:41,206 --> 00:07:42,620 And it's still there. 66 00:07:43,724 --> 00:07:45,310 Fear starts to settle in. 67 00:07:46,517 --> 00:07:48,724 It knows that we're here. 68 00:07:48,758 --> 00:07:53,034 They're thinking this has a particular interest in us. 69 00:07:53,068 --> 00:07:55,517 There's no other cars on the highway. 70 00:07:55,551 --> 00:07:58,758 And this light is getting brighter and it's getting closer. 71 00:08:20,068 --> 00:08:22,000 The object, the metallic disc, 72 00:08:22,034 --> 00:08:24,413 the width and length of a commercial airliner 73 00:08:24,448 --> 00:08:29,000 and as flat as a pancake is now hovering over the road. 74 00:08:33,103 --> 00:08:37,172 Stunned and with nowhere to go, Barney stops the car. 75 00:08:40,379 --> 00:08:44,241 Barney is now determined, he's boiled over not just with curiosity, 76 00:08:44,275 --> 00:08:47,103 but almost a sense of duty. 77 00:08:47,137 --> 00:08:48,862 I can't continue this trip 78 00:08:48,896 --> 00:08:52,620 until we get rid of this thing or find out what it wants. 79 00:08:54,896 --> 00:08:56,758 So he gets out of the car 80 00:08:56,793 --> 00:08:59,482 and he starts walking in the field to approach it. 81 00:09:01,379 --> 00:09:03,793 Barney is a confirmed skeptic. 82 00:09:05,379 --> 00:09:07,448 Barney does not believe 83 00:09:07,482 --> 00:09:14,137 that this planet could possibly be visited by space aliens from elsewhere. 84 00:09:36,896 --> 00:09:38,724 And then he sees them. 85 00:09:41,586 --> 00:09:45,275 Gray uniform beings looking down. 86 00:09:46,758 --> 00:09:51,448 He sees occupants inside of the craft, which is now tilted towards him. 87 00:10:06,068 --> 00:10:09,103 They're dressed in shiny black uniforms. 88 00:10:10,965 --> 00:10:13,827 They were gray in complexion. 89 00:10:13,862 --> 00:10:16,758 They were completely hairless. 90 00:10:16,793 --> 00:10:20,068 They had eyes that wrapped around 91 00:10:20,103 --> 00:10:24,517 to the sides of their faces larger than human eyes. 92 00:10:26,965 --> 00:10:30,827 We would describe this as a Close Encounters of the Third Kind. 93 00:10:30,862 --> 00:10:33,275 The witness is not just seeing it at a distance, 94 00:10:33,310 --> 00:10:37,413 but they're actually seeing occupants within the, or outside of the craft. 95 00:10:39,448 --> 00:10:41,275 And windows are now visible 96 00:10:41,310 --> 00:10:43,344 with the occupants looking at Barney 97 00:10:43,379 --> 00:10:45,172 who's staring at them through binoculars. 98 00:10:46,206 --> 00:10:47,310 There's a direct, 99 00:10:47,344 --> 00:10:53,068 it seems, communication as if to say we came for you 100 00:10:53,103 --> 00:10:56,379 and we're not going to be satisfied until we get what we want. 101 00:11:16,586 --> 00:11:23,517 Little red lights started to slide out from the craft on fin-like structures. 102 00:11:23,551 --> 00:11:27,586 And something started to drop down from the bottom of the craft. 103 00:11:31,793 --> 00:11:37,068 Suddenly, Barney sees what appears to be a ramp or a ladder. 104 00:11:37,103 --> 00:11:39,689 And now, it seems like the craft is transforming 105 00:11:39,724 --> 00:11:41,689 as someone is planning to come out. 106 00:11:54,655 --> 00:11:58,758 Sensing danger, Barney rushes back to the car. 107 00:11:58,793 --> 00:12:02,586 Barney somehow knew that there was a plan 108 00:12:02,620 --> 00:12:07,896 and that that plan was to capture him like, "a bug in a net." 109 00:12:07,931 --> 00:12:11,034 They had to get out of there or they were going to be captured. 110 00:12:24,758 --> 00:12:27,000 But it's already too late. 111 00:12:36,551 --> 00:12:40,172 A close encounter with a UFO sends Barney Hill 112 00:12:40,206 --> 00:12:42,275 and his wife, Betty, into a panic. 113 00:12:46,413 --> 00:12:48,344 Betty and Barney are now on the run. 114 00:12:48,379 --> 00:12:51,793 They know that something is there that's not supposed to be there. 115 00:12:51,827 --> 00:12:55,275 They know it's some kind of flying saucer. 116 00:12:55,310 --> 00:12:58,275 They know that there are creatures inside it. 117 00:13:32,413 --> 00:13:35,655 The beeps are unlike anything they have ever heard. 118 00:13:46,413 --> 00:13:50,689 Suddenly, a tingling sensation comes over both Betty and Barney. 119 00:13:59,931 --> 00:14:01,827 Then silence. 120 00:14:03,344 --> 00:14:06,689 As if suspended in a dream. 121 00:14:06,724 --> 00:14:09,586 As if only a moment had passed, 122 00:14:09,620 --> 00:14:14,586 Betty and Barney heard another series of buzzing sounds. 123 00:14:14,620 --> 00:14:16,931 This time, they didn't see the craft. 124 00:14:16,965 --> 00:14:20,758 But it returned them to full consciousness. 125 00:14:20,793 --> 00:14:25,241 And they realized that they were 35 miles down the highway 126 00:14:25,275 --> 00:14:29,586 with very little memory of what had occurred in the interim. 127 00:14:58,758 --> 00:15:02,275 When people see extraordinary things, they can often be in denial. 128 00:15:02,310 --> 00:15:05,827 You'd have to say that that is possibly the case with Barney Hill. 129 00:15:05,862 --> 00:15:09,620 He's still not believing it, even though he's seen it with his own eyes. 130 00:15:48,034 --> 00:15:51,172 After arriving home, the Hills remain puzzled. 131 00:15:52,172 --> 00:15:55,000 They're both feeling a little creeped out. 132 00:15:55,034 --> 00:15:57,896 You know how you feel grimy after a long trip? 133 00:15:57,931 --> 00:16:00,000 They feel that, but it's a little different. 134 00:16:01,206 --> 00:16:04,241 Betty notices that her dress has been ripped. 135 00:16:04,275 --> 00:16:09,103 She only bought this dress just before and this is the first time she's ever worn it. 136 00:16:09,137 --> 00:16:10,551 She takes it off. 137 00:16:10,586 --> 00:16:13,344 She feels like she doesn't want to be associated with it 138 00:16:13,379 --> 00:16:17,413 and she puts it in her closet, and never wears it again. 139 00:16:17,448 --> 00:16:19,862 He's just trying to figure out what happened to him. 140 00:16:21,068 --> 00:16:22,793 And Barney doesn't really know. 141 00:16:22,827 --> 00:16:25,000 And it's got him deeply disturbed. 142 00:16:35,137 --> 00:16:38,827 Betty was very curious. She wanted to learn more. 143 00:16:38,862 --> 00:16:42,586 But Barney said, Betty, don't tell anyone. 144 00:16:42,620 --> 00:16:45,275 No good can ever come of this. 145 00:16:45,793 --> 00:16:47,241 And she disagreed. 146 00:16:47,275 --> 00:16:51,310 She walked to the phone and she called my mother. 147 00:16:54,551 --> 00:16:56,758 We had a neighbor who was a physicist. 148 00:16:56,793 --> 00:17:00,068 Betty was concerned about the contamination. 149 00:17:00,103 --> 00:17:03,034 And so, she asked my mother to call our neighbor 150 00:17:03,068 --> 00:17:06,172 to find out what she and Barney should do. 151 00:17:06,206 --> 00:17:09,034 He told, Betty, if she had a compass 152 00:17:09,068 --> 00:17:11,448 that she should take it out to the car 153 00:17:11,482 --> 00:17:13,793 to see how the needle reacts. 154 00:17:13,827 --> 00:17:15,965 That's not going to measure radiation, 155 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:18,482 that's going to measure a magnetic field. 156 00:17:18,517 --> 00:17:22,068 So apparently, he knew something about UFOs 157 00:17:22,103 --> 00:17:24,310 that Betty and Barney didn't know. 158 00:18:19,275 --> 00:18:21,517 Betty called my mother again. 159 00:18:21,551 --> 00:18:26,482 And the former Chief of Police of Newton, New Hampshire 160 00:18:26,517 --> 00:18:29,517 was at the house having a cup of coffee. 161 00:18:30,931 --> 00:18:33,137 He was my father's best friend. 162 00:18:33,172 --> 00:18:36,275 And he said to tell Betty 163 00:18:36,310 --> 00:18:40,413 that she and Barney need to make a report to Pease Air Force Base. 164 00:18:43,068 --> 00:18:47,310 Because they had notified all of the police departments 165 00:18:47,344 --> 00:18:50,379 that if anyone had a UFO sighting, they should report it. 166 00:18:51,965 --> 00:18:55,551 Peace Air Force Base is the local air force base 167 00:18:55,586 --> 00:18:59,344 in Portsmouth, New Hampshire in 1961. 168 00:18:59,379 --> 00:19:03,620 Betty and Barney know people that are involved in the military there. 169 00:19:03,655 --> 00:19:06,310 She gets hold of somebody at Peace Air Force Base 170 00:19:06,344 --> 00:19:10,965 who takes their story in isn't that interested in it. 171 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:14,137 Until they start talking about the extension wings 172 00:19:14,172 --> 00:19:15,448 and red lights coming out, 173 00:19:15,482 --> 00:19:18,344 then he's very interested in it. 174 00:19:18,379 --> 00:19:22,862 The next day, they actually hear from a captain Paul Henderson at Peace 175 00:19:22,896 --> 00:19:26,310 who wants to know the whole story in detail. 176 00:19:26,344 --> 00:19:30,758 So suddenly, they've told this story that is now being taken very seriously. 177 00:19:55,344 --> 00:20:00,310 Incredibly, the Hills are told of another sighting reported that night. 178 00:20:00,344 --> 00:20:05,827 The officer said that the controller at the tower had reported 179 00:20:05,862 --> 00:20:12,827 there was an unusual craft seen on radar at 2:14 a.m. 180 00:20:12,862 --> 00:20:15,896 on the night that Betty and Barney had their experience. 181 00:20:20,482 --> 00:20:22,310 Could the two be related? 182 00:20:28,137 --> 00:20:31,517 The following day, my parents and my two brothers 183 00:20:31,551 --> 00:20:35,275 and I drove to Portsmouth to Betty's and Barney's home. 184 00:20:37,103 --> 00:20:43,827 I was excited in anticipation of hearing their story for myself. 185 00:20:43,862 --> 00:20:46,965 And we finally arrived there. 186 00:20:48,034 --> 00:20:50,655 We went into the kitchen with Betty. 187 00:20:50,689 --> 00:20:54,586 And she told us about the close encounter. 188 00:20:54,620 --> 00:20:57,068 She told us about the buzzing sounds. 189 00:20:58,689 --> 00:21:01,965 We wanted to see the spots on the trunk of the car. 190 00:21:05,103 --> 00:21:09,344 So she took us down the hallway and out to the vehicle. 191 00:21:11,413 --> 00:21:15,482 I could see those very shiny spots. 192 00:21:15,517 --> 00:21:17,034 And I took my finger. 193 00:21:17,068 --> 00:21:20,586 And I attempted to rub a spot off. 194 00:21:20,620 --> 00:21:24,793 My mother saw me and said, "Don't touch it, don't touch that spot. 195 00:21:24,827 --> 00:21:26,344 It might harm you." 196 00:21:26,379 --> 00:21:30,551 And very quickly, I was taken back into Betty's and Barney's house. 197 00:21:32,931 --> 00:21:35,379 It was sort of an epiphany in the sense 198 00:21:35,413 --> 00:21:40,931 that here is something that I had no idea existed. 199 00:21:40,965 --> 00:21:46,275 But suddenly, I was clued into the fact that it was real. 200 00:21:46,310 --> 00:21:50,413 That epiphany will lead Kathleen on a lifelong mission 201 00:21:50,448 --> 00:21:54,206 to uncover what really happened to her aunt and uncle that night... 202 00:21:56,103 --> 00:21:57,103 outside... 203 00:21:58,482 --> 00:22:02,551 and then inside the UFO. 204 00:22:16,068 --> 00:22:18,758 Several days after her UFO encounter, 205 00:22:18,793 --> 00:22:21,034 Betty Hill visits her local library 206 00:22:21,068 --> 00:22:24,965 where she checks out The Flying Saucer Conspiracy 207 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:27,896 by retired Marine Corps major Donald Keyhoe. 208 00:22:29,655 --> 00:22:32,551 Widely regarded as a leading UFO expert, 209 00:22:32,586 --> 00:22:37,310 major Keyhoe is a proponent of various theories explaining UFOs, 210 00:22:37,344 --> 00:22:38,896 government cover-ups, 211 00:22:38,931 --> 00:22:41,931 and the threat of interplanetary war. 212 00:22:44,862 --> 00:22:47,965 Major Keyhoe as an authority on flying saucers, 213 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:51,586 do you yourself believe that they exist? 214 00:22:51,620 --> 00:22:53,413 Well, I'm positive they exist. 215 00:22:53,448 --> 00:22:57,517 The weight of the evidence makes it impossible to arrive at any other conclusion. 216 00:22:57,551 --> 00:23:00,379 What tangible evidence do you have? 217 00:23:00,413 --> 00:23:03,241 Well, at least 800 reports from trained observers, 218 00:23:03,275 --> 00:23:06,275 veteran pilots, radar men, guided missile trackers, 219 00:23:06,310 --> 00:23:10,551 weather bureau observers, all people who are trained to know things in the sky, 220 00:23:10,586 --> 00:23:13,862 who describe these objects maneuvering under intelligent control. 221 00:23:13,896 --> 00:23:15,827 There are hundreds of those reports 222 00:23:15,862 --> 00:23:18,896 where the sightings were confirmed visually and by radar, 223 00:23:18,931 --> 00:23:21,000 and in some cases by photograph. 224 00:23:21,034 --> 00:23:22,413 There's kind of an evolution 225 00:23:22,448 --> 00:23:25,310 that takes place with UFOs in the United States. 226 00:23:26,241 --> 00:23:28,551 In the 40s and into the 50s, 227 00:23:28,586 --> 00:23:31,206 the government was primarily concerned with the panic. 228 00:23:33,103 --> 00:23:36,482 They wanted to be able to control the reaction of the public. 229 00:23:38,551 --> 00:23:43,620 There was an official government policy to ridicule and debunk 230 00:23:43,655 --> 00:23:45,724 and really make the witnesses feel 231 00:23:45,758 --> 00:23:48,793 as if they are the fringe, they are the crazy ones. 232 00:23:48,827 --> 00:23:52,862 And they don't deserve any merit because people really aren't seeing these things. 233 00:23:52,896 --> 00:23:55,655 So when the, the Hill incident happens, 234 00:23:55,689 --> 00:23:59,965 it's among all of this frenzy of UFO activity. 235 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:02,448 But yet, people don't know how to feel about it. 236 00:24:05,586 --> 00:24:08,379 Curious to know more about her own experience, 237 00:24:08,413 --> 00:24:10,172 Betty writes to major Keyhoe. 238 00:24:15,655 --> 00:24:19,517 She has begun, what will become a lifelong search for the truth. 239 00:24:23,517 --> 00:24:26,793 What she finds will shock the world. 240 00:24:33,172 --> 00:24:35,586 Located an hour north of Boston, 241 00:24:35,620 --> 00:24:38,310 Portsmouth is New Hampshire's oldest settlement 242 00:24:38,344 --> 00:24:39,862 and only seaport. 243 00:24:43,551 --> 00:24:45,793 In addition to its historic importance, 244 00:24:47,482 --> 00:24:50,758 by the 1960s, the city and surrounding area 245 00:24:50,793 --> 00:24:53,000 had become noted for its fishing industry... 246 00:24:54,448 --> 00:24:56,655 strategic military importance... 247 00:25:00,103 --> 00:25:03,000 and beautiful beaches. 248 00:25:03,034 --> 00:25:07,103 Betty was a child welfare worker for the state of New Hampshire. 249 00:25:08,310 --> 00:25:11,482 She cared for other people. 250 00:25:11,517 --> 00:25:15,517 She cared for children who were being abused 251 00:25:15,551 --> 00:25:19,586 by their parents or children who were being neglected. 252 00:25:19,620 --> 00:25:22,344 And then she worked in adoption. 253 00:25:22,379 --> 00:25:26,724 She was eventually promoted to the position of supervisor. 254 00:25:26,758 --> 00:25:28,517 She had an opinion on everything. 255 00:25:28,551 --> 00:25:30,206 She loved to express it. 256 00:25:30,241 --> 00:25:33,413 And if you took her on and you battled her about it, she was even happier. 257 00:25:33,448 --> 00:25:37,068 She wanted to be part of the world. 258 00:25:41,965 --> 00:25:45,275 Betty met Barney at Hampton Beach, New Hampshire, 259 00:25:45,310 --> 00:25:48,931 which was very close to her home in Portsmouth. 260 00:25:48,965 --> 00:25:53,413 And she was working during the summers down there sometimes. 261 00:25:55,551 --> 00:26:01,206 Betty had friends in Portsmouth and they knew Barney. 262 00:26:01,241 --> 00:26:04,275 So they met and she said to Barney, 263 00:26:04,310 --> 00:26:09,896 well, I have an apartment that I rent to tourists. 264 00:26:09,931 --> 00:26:14,310 And if you and your family ever come up here again, 265 00:26:14,344 --> 00:26:16,413 I'd be happy to rent it to you. 266 00:26:16,448 --> 00:26:19,896 So it was sort of a congenial relationship. 267 00:26:23,379 --> 00:26:28,206 Barney was highly intelligent. His IQ was 140. 268 00:26:28,241 --> 00:26:31,931 He wanted to go to college to become an engineer. 269 00:26:31,965 --> 00:26:35,275 But he was told that that was not something 270 00:26:35,310 --> 00:26:38,068 that he would ever be able to do 271 00:26:38,103 --> 00:26:40,758 because of the color of his skin. 272 00:26:40,793 --> 00:26:45,724 He ended up joining the army before the outbreak of World War II. 273 00:26:45,758 --> 00:26:49,103 He was a marksman. He was a truck driver. 274 00:26:49,137 --> 00:26:52,310 And he ended up being wounded. 275 00:26:52,344 --> 00:26:55,896 He then was able to get a job at the Post Office. 276 00:26:55,931 --> 00:26:59,689 And he worked for the US Post Office for many years. 277 00:26:59,724 --> 00:27:04,931 He married. He had two sons. But he and his wife divorced. 278 00:27:04,965 --> 00:27:09,724 So this is when he began a relationship with Betty. 279 00:27:17,068 --> 00:27:19,586 Barney eventually moves to Portsmouth. 280 00:27:21,275 --> 00:27:25,896 And after dating for a few years, he and Betty marry. 281 00:27:25,931 --> 00:27:29,827 They were one of the few mixed marriages in Portsmouth. 282 00:27:29,862 --> 00:27:31,931 Although Portsmouth this time, 283 00:27:31,965 --> 00:27:35,862 there was fairly large African-American population. 284 00:27:35,896 --> 00:27:38,379 But you don't want to think of Portsmouth 285 00:27:38,413 --> 00:27:40,448 or pretty much any New England town 286 00:27:40,482 --> 00:27:44,413 as being a northern town without racism. 287 00:27:44,448 --> 00:27:48,551 I mean, systemic racism is the name of the game 288 00:27:48,586 --> 00:27:51,827 as much through New England really as the south. 289 00:27:51,862 --> 00:27:54,793 Barney was one of the people fighting this with Betty. 290 00:27:54,827 --> 00:27:57,034 He was an activist in the NAACP. 291 00:27:57,068 --> 00:28:00,586 He was doing what he could to bring this to light. 292 00:28:00,620 --> 00:28:02,862 Always leading to the idea 293 00:28:02,896 --> 00:28:07,034 that to come out as an abductee of aliens 294 00:28:07,068 --> 00:28:09,620 was a huge risk on his part. 295 00:28:09,655 --> 00:28:12,241 And he was very concerned about his personality 296 00:28:12,275 --> 00:28:14,655 and how he was seen by other people. 297 00:28:14,689 --> 00:28:16,586 So this was a massive risk to him, 298 00:28:16,620 --> 00:28:18,344 which I think leads to the idea 299 00:28:18,379 --> 00:28:22,827 of how much he and Betty's story is actually, a love story. 300 00:28:25,379 --> 00:28:28,965 But little do they know the UFO incident is not over 301 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:31,103 and will continue to haunt them. 302 00:28:34,137 --> 00:28:37,241 Ten days after their encounter in the White Mountains, 303 00:28:37,275 --> 00:28:42,103 Betty suffers a series of vivid dreams that last over five nights. 304 00:28:44,689 --> 00:28:48,931 In her dreams, there was an encounter 305 00:28:48,965 --> 00:28:51,517 with very human-like entities. 306 00:28:56,586 --> 00:28:58,517 They surrounded the car 307 00:28:58,551 --> 00:29:03,103 and then they took Betty and Barney onto the craft 308 00:29:03,137 --> 00:29:07,206 where they did highly unusual physical examination. 309 00:29:13,620 --> 00:29:16,655 In this rare interview from 1968, 310 00:29:16,689 --> 00:29:21,068 Betty describes what happened on board the alien craft. 311 00:29:21,103 --> 00:29:25,379 First, they took Barney into one room and I went into a second room. 312 00:29:25,413 --> 00:29:31,137 In this room, they did what I would call a fairly simple physical examination. 313 00:29:31,172 --> 00:29:37,103 They seem to have mostly interest in my skin. 314 00:29:37,137 --> 00:29:40,758 I had the idea they were taking pictures of my skin. 315 00:29:40,793 --> 00:29:44,482 Also, interest in my hands and my feet. 316 00:29:44,517 --> 00:29:48,344 They also did a test which they call checking my nervous system. 317 00:29:48,368 --> 00:29:49,688 Throughout the whole examination, 318 00:29:49,689 --> 00:29:52,448 it would be like picking up some kind of a strange animal 319 00:29:52,482 --> 00:29:56,344 and looking it over, giving it a checkup and putting it back down again 320 00:29:56,379 --> 00:29:58,655 without any intentions of harming it. 321 00:30:00,551 --> 00:30:05,000 The vivid nature of the dreams along with the strange buzzing sounds 322 00:30:05,034 --> 00:30:08,551 are too much for Betty to simply dismiss. 323 00:30:08,586 --> 00:30:14,206 She was wondering if, if this somehow represented reality. 324 00:30:16,103 --> 00:30:20,517 Now, she was a social worker. She had studied psychology. 325 00:30:20,551 --> 00:30:25,827 And dreams that you have just before you wake up in the morning 326 00:30:25,862 --> 00:30:29,517 when you're sort of in a hypnotic state 327 00:30:29,551 --> 00:30:33,689 can include information that really occurred. 328 00:30:33,724 --> 00:30:37,172 Yet, there can be fantasy added. 329 00:30:37,206 --> 00:30:41,655 Betty initially jotted her dreams down on note paper. 330 00:30:41,689 --> 00:30:45,379 And she couldn't forget about them. 331 00:30:45,413 --> 00:30:49,379 And she spoke to her supervisor who said to her. 332 00:30:49,413 --> 00:30:53,655 Maybe this represents what really happened to you 333 00:30:53,689 --> 00:30:56,068 between those buzzing sounds. 334 00:30:56,103 --> 00:31:01,344 And maybe this is what happened during that period that you can't remember. 335 00:31:01,379 --> 00:31:05,000 So Betty sat down and she typed those dreams out. 336 00:31:09,310 --> 00:31:12,275 Betty knew she and Barney saw something that night. 337 00:31:14,413 --> 00:31:16,137 But what? 338 00:31:16,172 --> 00:31:18,551 What about those buzzing sounds? 339 00:31:18,586 --> 00:31:22,448 Why did the car have those strange shiny spots? 340 00:31:23,482 --> 00:31:26,000 Could her nightmares be true? 341 00:31:41,275 --> 00:31:46,344 Betty Hill's letter to Major Donald Keyhoe generates interest at NICAP, 342 00:31:46,379 --> 00:31:50,517 the National Investigations Committee on Aerial Phenomena. 343 00:31:50,551 --> 00:31:52,206 According to their records, 344 00:31:52,241 --> 00:31:54,758 similar looking unidentified craft 345 00:31:54,793 --> 00:32:00,344 had been reported flying over California, Kentucky and Indiana. 346 00:32:00,379 --> 00:32:05,689 NICAP in the '50s and '60s is one of the only legitimate and true organizations 347 00:32:05,724 --> 00:32:09,517 dedicated to the scientific study of UFOs. 348 00:32:09,551 --> 00:32:11,862 Now, Project Blue Book is the government's arm 349 00:32:11,896 --> 00:32:14,241 of the air force officially investigating. 350 00:32:14,275 --> 00:32:16,310 But as a citizen group, 351 00:32:16,344 --> 00:32:19,586 only NICAP and a few others were those who brought in 352 00:32:19,620 --> 00:32:22,862 scientists, medical professionals 353 00:32:22,896 --> 00:32:26,965 and had a very rigid way of investigating these events. 354 00:32:32,965 --> 00:32:38,655 In October, 1961, Boston-based NICAP investigator Walter Webb 355 00:32:38,689 --> 00:32:42,241 interviews the Hills at their home in Portsmouth, New Hampshire. 356 00:32:42,275 --> 00:32:46,068 Walter Webb was an investigator for NICAP. 357 00:32:46,103 --> 00:32:50,068 He wanted to know, in as much detail as possible, 358 00:32:50,103 --> 00:32:53,551 where the sighting occurred initially. 359 00:32:55,275 --> 00:32:57,586 How the craft reacted. 360 00:32:58,724 --> 00:33:01,793 How this changed as they observed it. 361 00:33:03,068 --> 00:33:06,827 What Barney saw as he stood in that field. 362 00:33:13,034 --> 00:33:17,896 Walter Webb believed their story because they didn't enlarge on it. 363 00:33:17,931 --> 00:33:21,965 They were serious in retelling what happened. 364 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:25,551 They were consistent in their details. 365 00:33:25,586 --> 00:33:30,172 Because he interviewed them separately before he interviewed them together. 366 00:33:30,206 --> 00:33:32,965 And so, everything meshed. 367 00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:39,137 He thought that they were reliable, intelligent individuals, 368 00:33:39,172 --> 00:33:43,586 with no reason to want to make something like this up. 369 00:33:43,620 --> 00:33:48,689 The scientific community, at least those who are interested in the subject, took note 370 00:33:48,724 --> 00:33:51,172 that we have some very credible witnesses here. 371 00:33:51,206 --> 00:33:54,000 They're in high standing in society. 372 00:33:54,034 --> 00:33:55,379 They have a lot to lose. 373 00:33:55,413 --> 00:33:57,724 And so, given the credibility of it, 374 00:33:57,758 --> 00:34:02,000 it's kind of one of the first times that many of them had taken note 375 00:34:02,034 --> 00:34:05,655 that we should listen to the alleged abductees. 376 00:34:12,758 --> 00:34:14,068 A few weeks later, 377 00:34:14,103 --> 00:34:17,000 when another set of investigators question the Hills, 378 00:34:17,034 --> 00:34:19,034 they make a startling revelation. 379 00:34:44,758 --> 00:34:48,862 What happened during those two hours of missing time? 380 00:35:01,827 --> 00:35:03,517 Imagine you're Betty and Barney, 381 00:35:03,551 --> 00:35:05,965 you've seen this UFO, you've seen these creatures 382 00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:10,137 and then you begin to realize that there's a couple hours that are unaccounted for. 383 00:35:10,172 --> 00:35:12,034 They started to get an inkling 384 00:35:12,068 --> 00:35:17,000 that maybe there was more to that two-hour period than it first met the eye. 385 00:35:22,275 --> 00:35:27,068 Could Betty's dreams be nightmares of something real? 386 00:35:27,103 --> 00:35:32,344 Is it possible they were abducted by aliens during the missing time? 387 00:35:32,379 --> 00:35:35,034 Betty and Barney decide to investigate further. 388 00:35:36,310 --> 00:35:40,793 Shortly after Betty and Barney met with Homan & Jackson, 389 00:35:40,827 --> 00:35:45,310 they made trips up to the White Mountains. 390 00:35:45,344 --> 00:35:51,758 They were attempting to remember more to jog their memories of what had occurred. 391 00:35:56,413 --> 00:36:01,172 In Betty's dreams, she remembered a huge fiery orb 392 00:36:01,206 --> 00:36:05,310 that seemed to be sitting on the ground of a roadblock. 393 00:36:05,344 --> 00:36:08,206 But she didn't know where or when that occurred 394 00:36:08,241 --> 00:36:12,172 of a dirt road with tall trees all around. 395 00:36:12,206 --> 00:36:14,275 And this was very perplexing. 396 00:36:20,827 --> 00:36:23,862 The whole experience from the days, the months and the years 397 00:36:23,896 --> 00:36:28,413 after the event took a major toll on their relationship. 398 00:36:30,551 --> 00:36:35,172 Betty wanted to understand this and to unlock the secrets, 399 00:36:35,206 --> 00:36:37,586 if you will, of everything that happened. 400 00:36:37,620 --> 00:36:40,137 What were the events that were haunting her? 401 00:36:41,517 --> 00:36:43,344 Barney wanted to keep quiet. 402 00:36:43,379 --> 00:36:45,379 He didn't want it to affect their public life 403 00:36:45,413 --> 00:36:47,620 and his standing in the civil rights movements 404 00:36:47,655 --> 00:36:51,068 and everything that they were involved in. 405 00:36:51,103 --> 00:36:56,413 Barney was still attempting to forget about it, but he wouldn't. 406 00:36:56,448 --> 00:37:03,275 It was really eating away at him and was deeply troubling. 407 00:37:04,448 --> 00:37:06,655 Concerned over a worsening ulcer, 408 00:37:06,689 --> 00:37:10,068 Barney visits a psychiatrist hoping to find relief. 409 00:37:56,655 --> 00:37:59,655 Barney prepares to go under hypnosis. 410 00:37:59,689 --> 00:38:03,068 After years of blocking out what happened, 411 00:38:03,103 --> 00:38:07,137 will Barney finally come face-to-face with his demons? 412 00:38:24,034 --> 00:38:27,448 Two years after the UFO encounter, 413 00:38:27,482 --> 00:38:30,551 Betty and Barney Hill travel to Boston 414 00:38:30,586 --> 00:38:33,655 for a visit with one of the country's leading experts 415 00:38:33,689 --> 00:38:37,827 in regressive hypnosis, Dr. Benjamin Simon. 416 00:38:39,862 --> 00:38:44,344 Dr. Simon had earned a reputation for himself when he was a colonel in the army. 417 00:38:45,655 --> 00:38:47,758 He developed a special technique 418 00:38:47,793 --> 00:38:52,793 using deep trance hypnosis in order to resolve the trauma 419 00:38:52,827 --> 00:38:57,344 that soldiers who were returning from the war had experienced. 420 00:38:57,379 --> 00:39:00,103 That caused physiological ailments. 421 00:39:00,104 --> 00:39:01,999 When I snapped my finger, you'll be able to let go 422 00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:04,400 and then you'll get sleepy and your eyes are getting heavier. 423 00:39:07,413 --> 00:39:10,793 Is it possible that Betty and Barney were experiencing 424 00:39:10,827 --> 00:39:14,103 post-traumatic stress after their UFO encounter? 425 00:39:17,586 --> 00:39:19,931 And could Dr. Simon help them? 426 00:39:23,137 --> 00:39:27,827 In a rare interview, Dr. Simon discusses his treatment of the Hills. 427 00:40:01,448 --> 00:40:02,827 Over the next six months, 428 00:40:02,862 --> 00:40:06,724 both Betty and Barney undergo a series of treatments. 429 00:40:06,758 --> 00:40:11,413 During these sessions, Dr. Simon induces them into a deep trance. 430 00:40:11,448 --> 00:40:15,586 Now, clasp your hands in front of you tight, tight, tight, tight, tight, tighter. 431 00:40:15,587 --> 00:40:17,205 As they get tighter, you're going to sleep. 432 00:40:17,206 --> 00:40:19,034 You're going to a deep, deep sleep. 433 00:40:19,068 --> 00:40:20,344 Your eyes are getting heavy. 434 00:40:20,379 --> 00:40:22,482 They're closing. They're closing tight. 435 00:40:22,517 --> 00:40:25,724 Now, your hands are relaxed. We're going back. 436 00:40:25,758 --> 00:40:30,310 We're going back to September 19th, 1961, when you were returning from your vacation. 437 00:40:30,344 --> 00:40:33,275 We're going back to September 19th, 1961. 438 00:40:58,655 --> 00:41:00,103 While under hypnosis, 439 00:41:00,137 --> 00:41:03,724 Barney recalls everything in his conscious memory, 440 00:41:03,758 --> 00:41:06,275 including the drive through the White Mountains 441 00:41:06,310 --> 00:41:09,310 and seeing the strange light up in the sky. 442 00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:17,344 But when he gets to the part about standing out in a field and seeing a UFO, 443 00:41:17,379 --> 00:41:20,862 a mental block forms, a panic sets in. 444 00:41:59,758 --> 00:42:05,206 When Dr. Simon pushes Barney to go beyond 445 00:42:05,241 --> 00:42:08,172 that mental block that he had developed, 446 00:42:08,206 --> 00:42:11,413 Barney says, "Please, doctor, don't make me go there, 447 00:42:11,448 --> 00:42:13,379 please don't let me remember that." 448 00:42:13,413 --> 00:42:16,827 And Dr. Simon said, "You will remember that. 449 00:42:16,862 --> 00:42:18,344 It won't hurt you now." 450 00:42:49,034 --> 00:42:50,724 Calm down. 451 00:42:50,758 --> 00:42:56,482 Barney had a very explosive what's called an abreaction, 452 00:42:56,517 --> 00:43:00,896 where he released a great deal of emotion. 453 00:43:04,551 --> 00:43:08,034 Dr. Simon guides Barney past his mental block, 454 00:43:08,068 --> 00:43:13,793 where he recalls for the first time a powerful force controlling him. 455 00:43:58,482 --> 00:44:01,034 Listening to Barney is very difficult. 456 00:44:01,068 --> 00:44:03,103 He's hysterical. He's screaming. 457 00:44:03,137 --> 00:44:07,724 He is reliving the most terrifying moments of his entire life. 458 00:44:07,758 --> 00:44:09,758 This is a man that was in World War II. 459 00:44:13,137 --> 00:44:15,965 Later, during another hypnosis session, 460 00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:22,275 Barney recalls hearing the mysterious beeps and what happens next. 461 00:44:22,310 --> 00:44:27,206 Suddenly, he's driving, and he's driving, and he's driving. 462 00:44:27,241 --> 00:44:29,896 And he makes a turn. 463 00:44:29,931 --> 00:44:36,379 And he says, "I don't know why I had to make that turn." 464 00:44:36,413 --> 00:44:41,241 And then he finds himself on a dirt road with tall trees all around. 465 00:44:51,620 --> 00:44:54,758 There's a fiery orb that he sees. 466 00:44:54,793 --> 00:45:01,241 And he sees these entities standing in the road dressed in shiny black uniforms. 467 00:45:01,275 --> 00:45:03,793 And then Barney says, it's them. 468 00:45:07,931 --> 00:45:11,931 It's the ones I saw when I was standing in the field 469 00:45:11,965 --> 00:45:14,586 looking through binoculars. 470 00:45:14,620 --> 00:45:19,689 As the entities close in on the car, this time, there is no escape. 471 00:45:28,413 --> 00:45:34,068 In early 1964, two years after her UFO encounter, 472 00:45:34,103 --> 00:45:39,034 Betty Hill also undergoes hypnosis designed to recall what happened that night. 473 00:45:45,862 --> 00:45:52,724 Under hypnosis, Betty remembers everything that she had conscious recall for. 474 00:45:52,758 --> 00:45:58,862 And then she remembers Barney taking a sharp turn in the road 475 00:45:58,896 --> 00:46:03,034 and they were then on a dirt road with tall trees all around. 476 00:46:32,793 --> 00:46:35,275 There were figures standing in the road. 477 00:46:35,310 --> 00:46:38,413 And she observed this huge fiery orb. 478 00:46:40,551 --> 00:46:44,586 And she's talking to Barney, what is this? 479 00:46:44,620 --> 00:46:47,413 Are we being robbed? Is there an accident ahead? 480 00:46:47,448 --> 00:46:50,241 Barney says to Betty, "It's them." 481 00:46:54,068 --> 00:46:56,206 Betty becomes terrified. 482 00:46:56,241 --> 00:47:00,931 She has never been so terrified in her entire life. 483 00:47:00,965 --> 00:47:02,758 She puts her hand on the door. 484 00:47:02,793 --> 00:47:05,517 She's going to run into the woods to hide, 485 00:47:05,551 --> 00:47:09,482 but she's intercepted and she loses consciousness. 486 00:47:12,413 --> 00:47:14,137 The next thing Betty remembers 487 00:47:14,172 --> 00:47:17,551 is the alien beings escorting her through the woods 488 00:47:17,586 --> 00:47:19,689 and onto the spacecraft. 489 00:47:41,724 --> 00:47:46,413 They're saying to Betty, there's nothing to be afraid of, 490 00:47:46,448 --> 00:47:49,034 we only need to do a few simple tests, 491 00:47:49,068 --> 00:47:53,724 you won't be harmed and then you'll very quickly be on your way. 492 00:47:53,758 --> 00:47:55,103 She doesn't trust them. 493 00:47:57,275 --> 00:48:01,517 She kicks the one who is beside her... 494 00:48:03,103 --> 00:48:05,586 and this tears the hem on her dress down... 495 00:48:07,517 --> 00:48:11,724 and tears the lining of the dress from waist to hemline. 496 00:48:11,758 --> 00:48:14,034 They've regained control of her. 497 00:48:14,068 --> 00:48:18,137 And she is taken into an examining room on the craft. 498 00:48:32,482 --> 00:48:36,275 That's where Betty meets someone she calls the Examiner. 499 00:49:07,137 --> 00:49:13,827 They use some kind of stylus pressing on the vertebrae in her spine. 500 00:49:16,758 --> 00:49:18,931 They take skin samples. 501 00:51:26,862 --> 00:51:29,379 And then it was Barney's turn. 502 00:51:43,344 --> 00:51:46,551 While under hypnosis, Barney Hill recalls 503 00:51:46,586 --> 00:51:49,034 how after being abducted by entities, 504 00:51:49,068 --> 00:51:51,896 he too was subjected to a physical examination. 505 00:51:53,586 --> 00:51:57,413 Barney is placed on a table and his clothes removed. 506 00:52:00,206 --> 00:52:05,206 They are interested in his muscular structure as well. 507 00:52:05,241 --> 00:52:08,310 In his nervous system, he's rolled over. 508 00:52:08,344 --> 00:52:14,310 He can feel what seems to be something pushing along the vertebrae in his spine. 509 00:52:51,172 --> 00:52:56,275 Something slid very easily into Barney's rectum 510 00:52:56,310 --> 00:52:58,344 and then was removed very rapidly. 511 00:52:58,379 --> 00:52:59,896 It wasn't painful. 512 00:52:59,931 --> 00:53:05,034 Then kind of a cup-like device was placed over his genitals. 513 00:53:05,068 --> 00:53:08,655 There was apparently a sperm sample taken. 514 00:53:11,034 --> 00:53:12,655 And then it was over. 515 00:53:18,103 --> 00:53:20,482 After completing their examinations, 516 00:53:20,517 --> 00:53:24,724 the entities escort the Hills off the ship and back to their car. 517 00:55:33,862 --> 00:55:38,344 It is the most extraordinary story Dr. Simon has ever heard. 518 00:55:38,379 --> 00:55:40,862 I've never been so afraid in my life. 519 00:55:40,896 --> 00:55:43,241 Were these made-up memories? 520 00:55:43,275 --> 00:55:47,379 Or did Barney and Betty really get abducted by aliens? 521 00:56:19,344 --> 00:56:22,241 Dr. Simon felt that the best explanation 522 00:56:22,275 --> 00:56:24,344 might very well be that the two of them 523 00:56:24,379 --> 00:56:27,000 had had some kind of transference between them 524 00:56:27,034 --> 00:56:30,724 allowing them to sort of create and build the story 525 00:56:30,758 --> 00:56:34,551 that Betty might have had a stronger feeling about this 526 00:56:34,586 --> 00:56:39,620 and her memories or dreams contaminated Barney's memories or dreams. 527 00:56:39,655 --> 00:56:41,655 But he wasn't accusing them of hoaxing. 528 00:56:41,689 --> 00:56:45,034 He just felt that it was a psychological condition. 529 00:56:47,344 --> 00:56:51,034 While grateful for the chance to tell their stories through hypnosis, 530 00:56:51,068 --> 00:56:56,620 Betty and Barney disagree with Dr. Simon's conclusions. 531 00:56:56,655 --> 00:57:00,793 They believe their independent accounts or further confirmation 532 00:57:00,827 --> 00:57:03,862 that what they experienced was real. 533 00:57:06,344 --> 00:57:09,724 They couldn't go along with Dr. Simon's suggestions 534 00:57:09,758 --> 00:57:15,000 that this had to be Barney's absorbing Betty's dreams. 535 00:57:15,034 --> 00:57:19,758 And so, Barney just accepted it as real. 536 00:57:19,793 --> 00:57:24,931 And he felt a lot better because he had military officers 537 00:57:24,965 --> 00:57:28,482 who were encouraging him, who were telling him 538 00:57:28,517 --> 00:57:31,379 that, yes, all of these things are true 539 00:57:31,413 --> 00:57:35,413 that we know there are extraterrestrial craft coming to visit our planet. 540 00:57:35,448 --> 00:57:37,172 And there's no reason to believe 541 00:57:37,206 --> 00:57:39,448 that they're not visiting humans. 542 00:57:39,482 --> 00:57:42,655 And so, Barney felt much better. 543 00:57:45,413 --> 00:57:49,448 While the Hills are comforted that the truth has come to light, 544 00:57:49,482 --> 00:57:51,448 they're determined to keep it private. 545 00:57:54,689 --> 00:57:56,379 Little do they know, 546 00:57:56,413 --> 00:58:02,000 it's impossible to keep the first and greatest abduction story ever told, 547 00:58:02,034 --> 00:58:04,724 secret for long. 548 00:58:20,068 --> 00:58:25,862 By the fall of 1965, four years have passed since the Hill's UFO encounter. 549 00:58:26,965 --> 00:58:29,689 Their hypnosis sessions too were in the past. 550 00:58:30,931 --> 00:58:32,758 Barney was now feeling better. 551 00:58:32,793 --> 00:58:36,793 And so, he and Betty had moved on with their lives. 552 00:58:36,827 --> 00:58:41,551 Barney was still so involved in the civil rights movement 553 00:58:41,586 --> 00:58:44,482 and his speaking engagements. 554 00:58:44,517 --> 00:58:49,655 Because that was what he was really truly fighting for, was civil rights. 555 00:58:51,965 --> 00:58:53,827 But then, in October... 556 00:58:55,137 --> 00:58:58,206 their lives turn upside down once again 557 00:58:58,241 --> 00:59:02,068 when theBoston Traveler prints a five-part series 558 00:59:02,103 --> 00:59:06,448 detailing the Hill's UFO sighting and hypnosis sessions. 559 00:59:08,793 --> 00:59:10,655 It was a huge story. 560 00:59:10,689 --> 00:59:13,655 It ran for five days in the newspaper. 561 00:59:13,689 --> 00:59:17,137 Betty and Barney were extremely distressed. 562 00:59:17,172 --> 00:59:19,827 The Boston Traveler newspaper series, 563 00:59:19,862 --> 00:59:22,827 it blew the cover off the story 564 00:59:22,862 --> 00:59:25,103 that they've been telling a small group of people 565 00:59:25,137 --> 00:59:26,379 to a large group of people. 566 00:59:29,724 --> 00:59:31,344 When I first heard about the story, 567 00:59:31,379 --> 00:59:36,758 I couldn't imagine that somebody would either come up with that or lie about it 568 00:59:36,793 --> 00:59:38,758 for several years, 569 00:59:38,793 --> 00:59:42,965 and meet with Air Force officials and just make up a story. 570 00:59:43,000 --> 00:59:44,931 I mean, why would somebody do that? 571 00:59:44,965 --> 00:59:50,034 And especially, two Portsmouth people who were very respectable and respected. 572 00:59:51,689 --> 00:59:56,448 There was a violation of confidentiality in 1965. 573 00:59:58,034 --> 01:00:02,862 John Luttrell who was a reporter for theBoston Traveler in Boston 574 01:00:02,896 --> 01:00:08,758 had received confidential information from a friend of Betty's. 575 01:00:08,793 --> 01:00:11,896 And this woman had told him everything that she knew 576 01:00:11,931 --> 01:00:14,862 about the encounter and the hypnosis. 577 01:00:14,896 --> 01:00:18,482 He contacted Betty and Barney and wanted to interview them. 578 01:00:18,517 --> 01:00:23,206 Betty and Barney said, no, we do not want this story told. 579 01:00:30,482 --> 01:00:32,068 In this rare interview, 580 01:00:32,103 --> 01:00:35,241 award-winning investigative reporter John Luttrell 581 01:00:35,275 --> 01:00:38,000 explains why he went ahead with the story. 582 01:00:39,482 --> 01:00:42,862 These people deserved every single consideration. 583 01:00:42,896 --> 01:00:46,137 But then, where do you draw the line 584 01:00:46,172 --> 01:00:49,517 between maintaining a certain degree of personal privacy 585 01:00:49,551 --> 01:00:52,344 or the public's right to know? 586 01:00:52,379 --> 01:00:54,586 And in making this decision, 587 01:00:54,620 --> 01:00:58,655 it had to be made abundantly clear to all of the readers that number one, 588 01:00:58,689 --> 01:01:02,655 the Hills themselves did not initiate this with theBoston Traveler. 589 01:01:02,689 --> 01:01:07,000 They have not chosen to talk about any of the incidents at all. 590 01:01:10,551 --> 01:01:13,137 The sensational tale of an alien abduction 591 01:01:13,172 --> 01:01:16,206 thrusts Betty and Barney into the public spotlight. 592 01:01:18,172 --> 01:01:23,275 This had an impact not only on Betty and Barney, but on the entire family. 593 01:01:23,310 --> 01:01:29,241 We were a very respectable family who had many accomplishments. 594 01:01:29,275 --> 01:01:34,241 And we sat down and we talked about how should we handle this? 595 01:01:34,275 --> 01:01:37,034 Where will we go from here? 596 01:01:37,068 --> 01:01:42,793 And we decided as a family that since it did in fact happen 597 01:01:42,827 --> 01:01:49,103 and since the story had been told that Betty and Barney should tell the truth. 598 01:01:50,965 --> 01:01:54,000 Unable to avoid the intense media spotlight, 599 01:01:54,034 --> 01:01:57,862 the Hills cooperate with author John Fuller in the writing 600 01:01:57,896 --> 01:02:04,206 ofThe Interrupted Journey: Two Lost Hours Aboard a Flying Saucer. 601 01:02:04,241 --> 01:02:07,482 The Interrupted Journey went worldwide. 602 01:02:07,517 --> 01:02:10,103 It was aNew York Times bestseller. 603 01:02:10,137 --> 01:02:13,000 There was a tremendous amount of public interest. 604 01:02:14,655 --> 01:02:18,206 They literally shook the world when their story came out. 605 01:02:26,965 --> 01:02:28,931 In today's terms, The Interrupted Journey 606 01:02:28,965 --> 01:02:32,448 was like the final movie in the AvengersSaga. 607 01:02:32,482 --> 01:02:33,793 I mean, it was huge. 608 01:02:33,827 --> 01:02:35,965 I mean, everybody knew about it. 609 01:02:36,000 --> 01:02:37,896 It was a book club selection. 610 01:02:37,931 --> 01:02:40,620 It was excerpted in newspapers around the country. 611 01:02:40,655 --> 01:02:41,975 People couldn't get enough of it. 612 01:02:47,275 --> 01:02:51,310 Betty's story, which is so dramatically told 613 01:02:51,344 --> 01:02:54,413 in which she's talking to the aliens. 614 01:02:54,448 --> 01:02:56,620 There's all these things that are going on. 615 01:02:56,655 --> 01:02:58,034 This story wrote itself. 616 01:02:59,689 --> 01:03:02,172 What makes the Betty and Barney case so extraordinary 617 01:03:02,206 --> 01:03:04,344 is it's just a case about first. 618 01:03:04,379 --> 01:03:07,000 They were the first Americans to claim to be abducted. 619 01:03:07,034 --> 01:03:10,862 It's the first time that anyone had missing time. 620 01:03:13,344 --> 01:03:17,758 It's the first time that hypnosis was used to regress people 621 01:03:17,793 --> 01:03:19,172 to recover those memories. 622 01:03:19,206 --> 01:03:23,448 And it's also the first time that anyone had described the aliens 623 01:03:23,482 --> 01:03:27,000 as what is now popularly known as the greys. 624 01:03:27,034 --> 01:03:31,068 So Betty and Barney really just laid the template out there. 625 01:03:36,103 --> 01:03:38,517 The story explodes into popular culture 626 01:03:38,551 --> 01:03:41,896 when book excerpts are reprinted inLook Magazine. 627 01:03:43,034 --> 01:03:46,655 You got to remember that if this is not like today, 628 01:03:46,689 --> 01:03:49,275 it's not like we each have our own radio station 629 01:03:49,310 --> 01:03:52,655 and our own podcast and our own TV channel that we watch exclusively. 630 01:03:53,482 --> 01:03:55,482 There was minimum amount of media. 631 01:03:55,517 --> 01:03:57,241 And so, they end up inLook Magazine. 632 01:03:57,275 --> 01:03:58,379 That's huge. 633 01:04:03,275 --> 01:04:06,655 The book release changed Betty's and Barney's lives, 634 01:04:06,689 --> 01:04:12,379 because Barney had been appointed to the US Civil Rights Commission. 635 01:04:12,413 --> 01:04:18,758 He also was very actively involved in politics, as was Betty. 636 01:04:18,793 --> 01:04:23,172 And they had to put those activities aside for the time being. 637 01:04:23,206 --> 01:04:29,689 And to publicize this book, they took time off from work. 638 01:04:29,724 --> 01:04:32,655 So that they could travel to do television shows. 639 01:04:32,689 --> 01:04:36,413 - What is your name, please? - My name is Barney Hill. 640 01:04:36,448 --> 01:04:40,379 And they did many, many radio shows as well. 641 01:04:41,517 --> 01:04:43,206 My name is Barney Hill. 642 01:04:45,241 --> 01:04:48,517 This was kind of exciting to our family. 643 01:04:48,551 --> 01:04:51,068 Because at that point, 644 01:04:51,103 --> 01:04:56,068 we believed that finally this was being acknowledged as real. 645 01:04:56,103 --> 01:04:59,965 Which one of these three gentlemen in truth is Barney Hill? 646 01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:04,827 Will the real Barney Hill please stand up? 647 01:05:15,655 --> 01:05:18,000 The publicity surrounding the abduction 648 01:05:18,034 --> 01:05:19,758 brings out a number of skeptics 649 01:05:19,793 --> 01:05:25,793 who refuse to believe the Hills, leaving many to wonder, what really happened? 650 01:05:28,689 --> 01:05:33,931 It's a question Kathleen has been trying to answer since she was a teenager. 651 01:05:53,448 --> 01:05:57,931 For the past 40 years, Betty and Barney's niece Kathleen 652 01:05:57,965 --> 01:06:01,517 has been investigating the truth behind the Hill abduction. 653 01:06:03,241 --> 01:06:05,758 I decided to investigate this story 654 01:06:05,793 --> 01:06:11,551 because I was hearing about it on television, 655 01:06:11,586 --> 01:06:17,034 I was reading about it in magazine articles and newspaper articles. 656 01:06:17,068 --> 01:06:22,034 But what I was reading was not consistent with my memories of what actually occurred. 657 01:06:24,379 --> 01:06:29,000 In the process, she has uncovered classified documents kept secret 658 01:06:29,034 --> 01:06:32,206 and a government conspiracy to hide the truth. 659 01:06:32,241 --> 01:06:37,034 I wanted to look at the Project Blue Book documents 660 01:06:37,068 --> 01:06:41,137 that had been recorded at Pease Air Force Base, 661 01:06:41,172 --> 01:06:44,379 but also the documents that went to headquarters. 662 01:06:44,413 --> 01:06:49,034 I wanted to find any evidence of further investigation 663 01:06:49,068 --> 01:06:52,344 that was done by the Air Force and further documentation. 664 01:06:54,896 --> 01:07:00,931 I found that a false letter was written in 1963 665 01:07:00,965 --> 01:07:05,862 that contradicted the results of Betty's and Barney's statements 666 01:07:05,896 --> 01:07:08,034 in the Project Blue Book report. 667 01:07:09,896 --> 01:07:13,827 Betty and Barney talked about the movement of the craft, 668 01:07:13,862 --> 01:07:20,379 how it moved erratically in a zigzag fashion, how it swooped down. 669 01:07:20,413 --> 01:07:25,965 So I wanted to compare that to what was written in 1963. 670 01:07:26,000 --> 01:07:32,551 In '63, it said that it was a star-like object at all times 671 01:07:32,586 --> 01:07:35,724 and that there was no movement. 672 01:07:36,517 --> 01:07:39,275 And so, that was just a lie. 673 01:07:39,310 --> 01:07:43,551 Over the years, there's certainly been a lot of debate back and forth 674 01:07:43,586 --> 01:07:46,068 about why doesn't the government just tell us what it knows. 675 01:07:46,103 --> 01:07:47,896 And the government has said, 676 01:07:47,931 --> 01:07:51,724 "Well, there's really nothing to see here" and tried to minimize it. 677 01:07:51,758 --> 01:07:54,000 And it's even worse on the abduction phenomenon, 678 01:07:54,034 --> 01:07:58,965 which nobody seems to, to want to talk about on an official capacity. 679 01:07:59,000 --> 01:08:01,896 And it's really not a surprise because why would they, 680 01:08:01,931 --> 01:08:05,000 if what happened to Betty and Barney has been repeated 681 01:08:05,034 --> 01:08:10,931 hundreds, thousands or tens of thousands of times since 1961. 682 01:08:10,965 --> 01:08:15,068 What that says is we have a really out of control situation going on. 683 01:08:21,896 --> 01:08:25,689 One of the greatest pieces of evidence that the Betty and Barney Hill case 684 01:08:25,724 --> 01:08:31,551 could so desperately use would be a bunch of witnesses saying, I saw that thing too. 685 01:08:31,586 --> 01:08:34,137 And that is what the original reporter 686 01:08:34,172 --> 01:08:37,137 for the Boston Traveler, John Luttrell thought he had. 687 01:08:39,310 --> 01:08:44,241 In 1976, John Luttrell admitted to interviewing these witnesses 688 01:08:44,275 --> 01:08:47,448 in a letter to nuclear physicist and UFO investigator, 689 01:08:47,482 --> 01:08:49,862 Stanton Friedman. 690 01:08:49,896 --> 01:08:55,586 Before Stanton Friedman passed away, he gave me a letter written by John Luttrell. 691 01:09:00,689 --> 01:09:07,793 And John Luttrell spoke of 12 to 14 people in the White Mountains 692 01:09:07,827 --> 01:09:11,551 who had observed a craft by the same description 693 01:09:11,586 --> 01:09:14,689 on the same night in the same time frame 694 01:09:14,724 --> 01:09:17,068 that Betty and Barney saw this. 695 01:09:20,206 --> 01:09:22,896 His editors didn't feel that that needed to be included 696 01:09:22,931 --> 01:09:26,517 in the five articles that he wrote in 1965. 697 01:09:26,551 --> 01:09:29,655 Well, when Luttrell left the Boston Traveler, 698 01:09:29,689 --> 01:09:34,827 he actually gave the file to his editor with all those witnesses in it. 699 01:09:34,862 --> 01:09:36,103 And guess what? 700 01:09:36,137 --> 01:09:38,482 That file has disappeared. 701 01:09:47,137 --> 01:09:49,241 Perhaps the most compelling clue 702 01:09:49,275 --> 01:09:53,172 is the dress Betty wore the night of her abduction. 703 01:09:53,206 --> 01:09:55,620 She had placed it in her closet. 704 01:09:55,655 --> 01:10:00,862 And the next time she took it out, she thought about throwing the dress away. 705 01:10:00,896 --> 01:10:03,931 But on second thought, she thought she would keep it 706 01:10:03,965 --> 01:10:07,206 because it might hold a clue to what happened that night. 707 01:10:11,034 --> 01:10:14,482 Over the years, several tests have been done on this dress, 708 01:10:14,517 --> 01:10:18,034 where there are areas where it appears there are stains. 709 01:10:21,551 --> 01:10:27,724 Now, some of these results indicate that there's an organic material of some sort. 710 01:10:27,758 --> 01:10:31,586 But it wasn't until recently when I re-examined the dress 711 01:10:31,620 --> 01:10:33,965 that I found something very, very peculiar. 712 01:10:35,724 --> 01:10:39,620 Now, we knew about several stains from the outside. 713 01:10:39,655 --> 01:10:42,413 But as I turn the dress inside out, 714 01:10:42,448 --> 01:10:46,965 there's an inner lining to it, where I found a series of three spots. 715 01:10:49,068 --> 01:10:50,344 What's that from? 716 01:10:51,379 --> 01:10:53,896 The location of the stains is important 717 01:10:53,931 --> 01:10:55,551 because some might say 718 01:10:55,586 --> 01:11:00,206 that it's, you know, residue from female menstruation, for example. 719 01:11:00,241 --> 01:11:03,275 But this area was higher up. 720 01:11:03,310 --> 01:11:07,827 It's higher in the abdomen and pretty much where I would expect 721 01:11:07,862 --> 01:11:11,517 if the story is true that a needle was inserted. 722 01:11:11,551 --> 01:11:14,758 You've got different bodily fluids that would have leaked out. 723 01:11:14,793 --> 01:11:20,689 But from the inside, staining the lining of the dress on the inside 724 01:11:20,724 --> 01:11:23,137 and not going through to the outside. 725 01:11:28,448 --> 01:11:32,344 We've confirmed that this fluid does belong to Betty, 726 01:11:32,379 --> 01:11:35,551 and that she put this dress away and never wore it again. 727 01:11:35,586 --> 01:11:41,137 To me, this is consistent with the procedure of having put the clothing back on 728 01:11:41,172 --> 01:11:46,310 or wearing it through the procedure and indicating it happened as she said. 729 01:11:49,793 --> 01:11:52,344 It seems pretty clear what the aliens were doing 730 01:11:52,379 --> 01:11:57,586 based on the regression tapes and the testimony of Betty and Barney. 731 01:11:57,620 --> 01:12:00,310 They're taking a sperm sample from Barney. 732 01:12:00,344 --> 01:12:03,551 They're testing Betty to see if she's pregnant. 733 01:12:03,586 --> 01:12:08,034 Obviously, there's a reproductive issue that's being looked into. 734 01:12:08,068 --> 01:12:10,689 But they're also scraping skin samples. 735 01:12:10,724 --> 01:12:12,965 It's clearly a medical exam. 736 01:12:23,206 --> 01:12:26,551 It seems like they want to know more about our biology. 737 01:12:26,586 --> 01:12:29,241 Why else would they be conducting medical experiments? 738 01:12:35,206 --> 01:12:37,689 It seems like they don't have all the answers. 739 01:12:37,724 --> 01:12:39,344 So, do they keep coming back? 740 01:12:39,379 --> 01:12:41,000 Have they gotten what they want? 741 01:12:41,001 --> 01:12:42,619 Do they know everything they need to know? 742 01:12:42,620 --> 01:12:44,310 Or is there a further motive? 743 01:12:48,551 --> 01:12:50,275 In the 1970s, 744 01:12:50,310 --> 01:12:55,379 the controversy surrounding the Hill abduction explodes in the media once more. 745 01:12:55,413 --> 01:13:00,344 This time, when a schoolteacher in Ohio claims the Hill story is real 746 01:13:00,379 --> 01:13:04,137 and she knows where the aliens came from. 747 01:13:14,448 --> 01:13:17,862 One unanswered question has always been, 748 01:13:17,896 --> 01:13:20,344 where did these entities come from? 749 01:13:21,482 --> 01:13:24,068 During her dreams and during hypnosis, 750 01:13:24,103 --> 01:13:27,275 Betty Hill described seeing a star map 751 01:13:27,310 --> 01:13:30,413 that one of the alien creatures had showed her a map, 752 01:13:30,448 --> 01:13:34,517 a destination map of the routes that had been traveled. 753 01:13:35,965 --> 01:13:39,896 She said to the Leader, "I know you're not from around here. 754 01:13:39,931 --> 01:13:42,241 Where's your home port?" 755 01:13:42,275 --> 01:13:47,724 And he produced this three-dimensional star map. 756 01:15:01,206 --> 01:15:03,862 Under instructions from Dr. Simon, 757 01:15:03,896 --> 01:15:06,551 Betty later reproduced the map from memory. 758 01:15:08,137 --> 01:15:15,103 Then in 1974, the school teacher in Ohio claims to have deciphered the map 759 01:15:15,137 --> 01:15:19,379 and located the star system where the entities originated. 760 01:15:19,413 --> 01:15:23,482 Marjorie Fish was a brilliant woman from Ohio. 761 01:15:23,517 --> 01:15:27,517 She had studied biology in college. 762 01:15:27,551 --> 01:15:31,344 And she was an amateur astronomer, a member of Mensa. 763 01:15:31,379 --> 01:15:33,586 Meaning that she had a very high IQ. 764 01:15:33,620 --> 01:15:37,103 She saw Betty's star map in the first book 765 01:15:37,137 --> 01:15:40,896 that was written about the abduction. 766 01:15:40,931 --> 01:15:45,172 And she was interested in it. She was skeptical. 767 01:15:45,206 --> 01:15:50,448 But she thought that if this place really did exist in our galaxy, 768 01:15:50,482 --> 01:15:52,206 that she'd be able to find it. 769 01:15:55,862 --> 01:16:00,655 In order to understand the perspective from which the map was drawn, 770 01:16:00,689 --> 01:16:06,655 Fish constructed an elaborate 3D model using fishing line and colored beads. 771 01:16:08,793 --> 01:16:12,862 I set up a number of criteria when I started the search. 772 01:16:12,896 --> 01:16:15,551 One was that the sun had to be in the pattern 773 01:16:15,586 --> 01:16:18,000 and it had be one of the stars with a line to it. 774 01:16:18,034 --> 01:16:21,931 Because the one Betty called the Leader had said, 775 01:16:21,965 --> 01:16:27,034 "Where are you in the map and indicating that the sun was in the map?" 776 01:16:27,068 --> 01:16:29,206 And this was difficult in those days. 777 01:16:29,241 --> 01:16:30,724 She didn't have a computer. 778 01:16:30,758 --> 01:16:34,620 She had to hand copy all of the distance data 779 01:16:34,655 --> 01:16:39,517 that was available on the stars in our local galactic neighborhood. 780 01:16:39,551 --> 01:16:42,344 And the properties of those stars 781 01:16:42,379 --> 01:16:46,862 out 54 light years from our sun in every direction. 782 01:16:49,379 --> 01:16:52,965 In all, she constructed 14 models. 783 01:16:53,000 --> 01:16:55,655 She still didn't have a match. 784 01:16:55,689 --> 01:17:00,241 But there was a new catalog that was released. 785 01:17:00,275 --> 01:17:02,862 She took the new distance data back. 786 01:17:02,896 --> 01:17:06,482 She constructed a model. She found a match. 787 01:17:08,862 --> 01:17:14,000 I had all 12 points plus three background stars. 788 01:17:14,034 --> 01:17:17,758 And at this point, I was very elated and very happy. 789 01:17:17,793 --> 01:17:19,172 I didn't sleep at all that night. 790 01:17:22,000 --> 01:17:24,034 According to her evidence, 791 01:17:24,068 --> 01:17:29,172 the beings that abducted the Hills came from Zeta Reticuli, 792 01:17:29,206 --> 01:17:33,689 a binary star system located 39 light years from Earth. 793 01:17:36,241 --> 01:17:39,862 What we know about these stars is that they're very similar to our sun. 794 01:17:39,896 --> 01:17:41,896 They're called main sequence stars. 795 01:17:41,931 --> 01:17:45,206 And so, they're the right age, the right temperature. 796 01:17:45,241 --> 01:17:48,793 If there are planets revolving around them, 797 01:17:48,827 --> 01:17:53,862 they could be at the perfect what we call goldilocks, you know, distance, 798 01:17:53,896 --> 01:17:55,482 where they could support life. 799 01:17:57,931 --> 01:18:01,482 We may never know for certain 800 01:18:01,517 --> 01:18:07,689 if there is indeed life on planets around Zeta Reticuli one and two. 801 01:18:07,724 --> 01:18:13,034 But there is a good possibility that there is. 802 01:18:13,068 --> 01:18:19,620 We have discovered that that area of space 803 01:18:19,655 --> 01:18:23,689 that these extraterrestrials allegedly came from 804 01:18:23,724 --> 01:18:26,965 is rich in exoplanets. 805 01:18:30,241 --> 01:18:32,620 For a long, long time, I had the feeling 806 01:18:32,655 --> 01:18:36,344 that I had sort of lived through a tragedy in some way. 807 01:18:36,379 --> 01:18:39,241 And sometimes, even now, I still have this feeling. 808 01:18:39,275 --> 01:18:41,448 Because it's something that's haunting. 809 01:18:42,655 --> 01:18:46,068 It's something that's always on my mind. 810 01:18:46,103 --> 01:18:48,793 No matter where I go or what I do. 811 01:18:48,827 --> 01:18:51,896 It's the last thing I think of when I go to bed at night. 812 01:18:51,931 --> 01:18:56,655 And it's the first thing I think of in the morning when I wake up. 813 01:18:56,689 --> 01:19:01,310 And I expect it'll probably be that way for the rest of my life. 814 01:19:14,586 --> 01:19:18,068 Of course after this happened, there's no doubt in my mind 815 01:19:18,103 --> 01:19:22,655 that these are real solid crafts and they're astronauts from another solar system 816 01:19:22,689 --> 01:19:24,379 because they told me so themselves. 817 01:19:25,827 --> 01:19:29,275 Today, six decades after their UFO encounter... 818 01:19:30,620 --> 01:19:34,310 Betty Hill and her husband, Barney are no longer with us. 819 01:19:39,172 --> 01:19:42,379 They are buried together beside Betty's sister, Janet 820 01:19:42,413 --> 01:19:46,206 in a small picturesque cemetery in Kingston, New Hampshire. 821 01:19:49,793 --> 01:19:53,827 These were two people, long ago, who lived in Portsmouth... 822 01:19:56,275 --> 01:19:58,862 who have now passed on. 823 01:19:58,896 --> 01:20:03,000 But they've left us with a message of something they experienced. 824 01:20:06,896 --> 01:20:11,517 There are aliens out there who may be visiting us, 825 01:20:11,551 --> 01:20:15,551 might not be harmful, might want to know about us, 826 01:20:15,586 --> 01:20:17,724 might want to examine us... 827 01:20:19,206 --> 01:20:23,241 and may just want to be inquisitive about what we're about. 828 01:20:23,275 --> 01:20:25,724 And maybe someday, who knows when. 829 01:20:25,758 --> 01:20:28,413 But maybe someday, they're going to say hello. 830 01:21:00,103 --> 01:21:02,931 The good question is, why are they coming here? 831 01:21:02,965 --> 01:21:05,793 I don't think the government knows any more than we do. 832 01:21:05,827 --> 01:21:07,620 They're just as puzzled as we are. 833 01:21:09,310 --> 01:21:10,896 I mean, we know they're here. 834 01:21:10,931 --> 01:21:13,413 We know there are beings on board. 835 01:21:13,448 --> 01:21:14,931 We don't know why they're here. 836 01:21:23,310 --> 01:21:26,172 This question of why recently resurfaced 837 01:21:26,206 --> 01:21:31,172 following the 2017 release of the so-called Tic-tac video. 838 01:21:31,206 --> 01:21:33,620 These images of a purported UFO 839 01:21:33,655 --> 01:21:36,034 were captured by a navy fighter jet 840 01:21:36,068 --> 01:21:40,793 and radar on board the nuclear-powered aircraft carrier, USS Nimitz. 841 01:21:47,241 --> 01:21:51,448 Peace Air Force Base located in Portsmouth, New Hampshire, in 1961, 842 01:21:51,482 --> 01:21:54,448 was the home of the Strategic Air Command. 843 01:21:54,482 --> 01:21:58,344 And that's where the bombers with the nuclear bombs were housed. 844 01:21:58,379 --> 01:22:01,586 A few years earlier, in 1947, 845 01:22:01,620 --> 01:22:05,758 the Strategic Air Command bombers were held at Roswell. 846 01:22:08,517 --> 01:22:12,793 So UFOs, aliens, nuclear weapons 847 01:22:12,804 --> 01:22:14,964 kind of have this thing where they're brought together, 848 01:22:14,965 --> 01:22:17,034 which would make me say, 849 01:22:17,068 --> 01:22:21,862 it's one reason to believe that the Betty and Barney case might not be random, 850 01:22:21,896 --> 01:22:24,137 but might be something that's related to that 851 01:22:24,172 --> 01:22:27,551 since they lived very close to this nuclear bomber base. 852 01:22:29,758 --> 01:22:34,206 Six decades after risking their reputations and careers, 853 01:22:34,241 --> 01:22:39,931 many, no longer view Betty and Barney Hill as frauds, but as heroes. 854 01:22:41,068 --> 01:22:43,275 After UFOs are generally acknowledged, 855 01:22:43,310 --> 01:22:45,793 you can call that disclosure or whatever you want to call it. 856 01:22:45,827 --> 01:22:49,034 But when the world is finally saying, yeah, these things are real, 857 01:22:49,068 --> 01:22:51,896 then the history books are going to have to be rewritten. 858 01:22:51,931 --> 01:22:55,206 Betty and Barney Hill, they're going to be in history books. 859 01:22:55,241 --> 01:22:59,965 I always remind people, when I hear the skepticism of, 860 01:23:00,000 --> 01:23:02,275 well, there's no physical evidence, 861 01:23:02,310 --> 01:23:04,344 you could have a murder conviction 862 01:23:04,379 --> 01:23:10,241 from one or two very credible witnesses of seeing an event. 863 01:23:10,275 --> 01:23:15,034 Imagine the implications of that or someone goes to prison or is put to death. 864 01:23:15,068 --> 01:23:17,413 Yet, we ridicule somebody who says 865 01:23:17,448 --> 01:23:21,620 that they had a very fantastical story of a UFO report. 866 01:23:21,655 --> 01:23:26,068 But, yet, this same credibility exists with these witnesses. 867 01:23:26,103 --> 01:23:27,551 I think we should start listening. 868 01:23:34,310 --> 01:23:38,137 I think that if Betty and Barney were alive today, 869 01:23:38,172 --> 01:23:42,241 they would be satisfied that they had been vindicated. 870 01:23:42,275 --> 01:23:47,517 We know so much more scientifically than we knew in that time frame. 871 01:23:47,551 --> 01:23:53,620 And Betty's and Barney's knowledge was consistent with what we understand today. 872 01:24:00,172 --> 01:24:02,344 I'm Betty Hill, 873 01:24:02,379 --> 01:24:08,551 and my husband, Barney and I were the first persons on this planet 874 01:24:08,586 --> 01:24:12,413 to be abducted by astronauts from another solar system. 76288

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