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tony prince iran KNG why radio the
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prettiest face in radio they call me the
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mouthpiece of the average Joe very with
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you for next a couple of hours or so I
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want to talk about meat today get to the
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meat of the matter so to speak I love
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animals but I love eating them even more
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I think like you know if it lives and
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breathes I kind of want to taste it it's
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kind of strange it seems sort of
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arbitrary but we we think is appropriate
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to eat what's not appropriate to eat we
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can kill a cow or slaughter a pig that's
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no problem for some reason it's
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unacceptable to curl up from the
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television with a little cat on your
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plate so you know you want to surprise a
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victim too right because well they have
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time to get they know what's coming they
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panic these lemon starts going at this
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totally thinks of me yeah you can taste
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it yeah absolutely I mean ideally what
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you want is to keep him around him alive
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for three or four days just feed them
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water
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so you guys recording us right now
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why is that red light flashing over
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there there's a new camera something so
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how's this all going to work that I mean
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what's there you suppose fast me
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questions or you want me to acknowledge
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that you're in the car with me yeah well
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that's why I think we're kinda looking
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for certain kind of woman today because
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I wanted to make some stews long pigs do
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delete like human beings that are so
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arrogant so has to believe that they're
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better than every other kind of animal
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out there I mean a worm
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you know worms don't don't think about
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oh my god why did you know my mother you
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know mama worm like get eaten by the
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fish you know fish eats the worm and
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that's that it's completely accepted by
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the worm and the fish and a small fish
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gets heat invited like the big fish and
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if it was so wrong to eat it then why
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would it taste so good
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I'm looking for likes a marbled meat you
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know what I mean something nice and
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juicy
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there's
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yucks no thanks no sorry way too stringy
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mama
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yeah it depends on what I want to make
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like what I'm making and you no excuse
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but I like to match up body type but the
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kind of meat that I want oh there's this
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one no she's way more that's perfect
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yeah that's good people who eats to make
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perfect stew that's the figure probably
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I mean it sounds obvious it's true sign
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of health like students probably heard
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recent rash of prostitutes going missing
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I hear these left-wing groups are saying
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if one of these girls was the mayor's
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daughter the National Guard would be
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locking down the city look folks the
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mayor's daughter is not across let's go
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bring around the back here back of the
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house
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you don't mind it I don't really care
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what other people think but I'd rather
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them not be too nosy you know I'm not
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I'm sympathetic to the situation I'm
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just saying it's not that rare for
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something to happen to a prostitute I
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know it sounds cruel and I'm just
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telling it like it is
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okay so there you go basically going
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just like we're not even here it's nice
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a natural
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all right yeah
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mother's upstairs though so we're hunter
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like keep it down a bit wait we're going
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down we're going down here Lucy yeah go
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ahead
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just make yourself comfortable be a
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second oh yeah there's there's got to be
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in North America there's got to be I
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don't know if I've looked at the recent
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stats but 200 hundred actives at least
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100 active serial killers North America
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okay you want to get around there
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you know you could take police office
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all of us deal with death on a regular
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basis I've seen some some terrible
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terrible things in my career as a police
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officer you know just crime scenes that
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are just unbelievably and even dealing
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with decimal regular basis occurs and
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for us we can't become a cop teach
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individual thing I in any way had it
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going to talk to every single person
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okay you know I think number one if
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you're dealing with a sexual predator
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the first thing you have to realize is
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you guys are gonna be editing this I
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take it the first thing you have to
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realize that they're fucking they're
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just not wired right their brains are
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just not wired no no way
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I mean this looks sexual really to you
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well it's not I mean you know weak or
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anything like that most adults who have
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this kind of any social or violent
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behavior
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sociopaths if you will psychopaths it is
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most definitely traced back to some form
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of abuse in a childhood more often than
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not it's of a sexual nature this all
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culinary man this is very you know it's
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hard work you've seen this already right
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you know if you take pleasure in your
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work I guess but it's about the end
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result it's not this part right I guess
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it's all kind of hassle as far as I'm
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concerned it's okay over here yeah I
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just think of the end result you know
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you guys are gonna get a nice Stewart at
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this
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no just want to get the drip pan
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underneath her okay I don't really think
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I've ever dealt with what you would
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typically call a serial killer people
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commit these atrocious crimes because
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they want to be recognized they don't
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want to be caught but they want to be
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seen they also want to get into a
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dialogue with a greater authority so
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outsmarting the police outsmarting the
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media it's going to give this kind of
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personality this narcissistic
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personality a huge boost to their ego
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does anybody like Fink like that really
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for the whole time yeah there's always
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some good shots like if you got any
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closer to I was thinking you know I'm
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not trying to tell you how to do your
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job you know what they say every
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cannibal wants to be director right and
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I'm just like looking into the camera
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right any time okay okay well as you can
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see I guess any hunter would recognize
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this position we got the corpse hanging
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from the ankles some people refer to it
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as the configuration well again we know
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because he's become immortalized
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Leatherface Norman Bates Buffalo Bill
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and yet who is he
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he's a socially inept lonely one could
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say pathetic man you know what there's
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no there's no sympathy for some scrote
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who sits there and rips the body part
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I've got no sympathy page all right so
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the first thing I want to do is I'm
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gonna make a little incision here and
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I'm going to tie off the anus all right
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that's just to stop contamination from
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the feces I mean you would do that
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whether it was a deer carcass or a cow
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or a person obviously right you could
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have seen there like the first time I I
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did this like it was it was pretty ugly
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just like hacking away and going by feel
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here mostly as you can see it's a pretty
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bloody oh here we go it's a little
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slippery but yeah just want to give
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yourself enough room obviously be able
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to tie it off absolutely necessary to
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for health reasons tape and we got that
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tied off and it's gonna make a incision
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across your argument and well the idea
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is to just between the ribs and the
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pelvis yeah essentially I mean you know
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there's no learning and X courses for
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this kind of thing I suppose right when
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you look at our methods over time of how
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we are dealing with our social aberrant
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it's always been in a cruel barbaric
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manner saying that these people should
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be locked up or done away with I mean
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we've been hearing that for centuries
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now and it does not solve the problem
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bedlam did not solve the problem the
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bottom ization did not solve the problem
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electroshock therapy is not solving the
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problem
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so certainly to break these people off
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or to ignore their behavior or think
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that it's when you go away if we kill
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them this is not going to help it it's
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absolutely our duty as individuals and
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as a society to understand these people
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and try to help them as difficult as
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that might seem you know I I leave it to
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the liberal side of our society to to be
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the warm and fuzzy I'm more the reality
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and I think if you guys could could see
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one body that's been ripped apart you
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see that you quickly become desensitized
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to offer any level of compassion to you
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to the perpetrator that's about it you
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know I just want to clean it out a
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little bit and let's move on you can't
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justify you can't you can't even make
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sense out of it you know like you could
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sit here and say well you know why are
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they doing at the end of the day it
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doesn't matter what you say they just
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have to be screwed in their hats you
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know it just separates - from the
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tenants you hit a snag just work through
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it go slow okay that's just a perfect
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little portion all right let's go I'm
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hungry
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perfect
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all right then I can hardly wait for
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this right now
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whoa this is so good I hope someone out
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there tries it and I'm pretty
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politically motivated I don't think it's
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at anybody cares any less prostitute
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chooses this line of work and that's why
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people are not surprised don't confuse
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not surprised if not interested in not
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caring social life of a serial killer
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well if you wanna look case studies
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often these people are loners typically
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but sometimes they may be surrounded by
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a small group of friends you know who's
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the kind of person who would have a
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serial killer as a friend you know it's
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just the beer league it's the way to
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blow off some steam you know bunch of
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regular guys out there no one's really
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good some guys think we're in the NHL
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but me I'm pretty good on hold my own
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you know I mean I would want to fuck
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around with me okay yeah pressing the
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button help
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right
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go right there's a boat there as long as
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these wires don't touch that kind of
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wrapped around it right now so friends
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of serial killers they're going to be
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people who are very easily influenced
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often simple minded and who that serial
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killer can keep under their thumb it can
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happen that these people will
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inadvertently be drawn into the
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activities of said serial killer and
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unwittingly will become accomplices in
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their crimes
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that's nice ribs on this baby the only
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way to company yes it's just there's no
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animal by-products or anything like you
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can reload that's sizzle man that says
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it all one day I'm gonna write like a
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cookbook yeah you know if I ever get
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busted or something like I never nothing
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jail like you know he's been one right
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so what they're crying today right it's
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gonna write like a cookbook
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yeah exactly you know I see it become
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like a cult classic you know right man
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but I have the restaurant if I ever got
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a restaurant med that's my maitre d
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right there imagine him at the door when
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you walk in try the ribs oh man nothing
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beats barbecue man
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nothing beats barbed claw hmm if I
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requires the Caribbean name that they
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gave for the grill that they used in
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cannibalistic rituals oh you know has a
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rich history man this whole thing rich
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in wonderful history go for it
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oh that looked you see I had a pretty
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good butcher right so he did those up
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nicely for me yep so I'm cutting up for
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two I guess a right John come on get it
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Ben losers plants are alive wheat plants
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there is no serial killer gene but
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predetermines this kind of behavior I
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mean at least nobody has discovered it
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yet it may not be the case all the time
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but you know people who have these
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disruptive personalities have endured a
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kind of horrific abuse often there is a
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monster standing behind that closet door
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and that monster is mummy or daddy I
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just want to ask you a couple questions
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because you're my mom no they're really
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they're nice guys they've been really
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nice guys so
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yeah I don't think he liked it very much
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at first but hey gordi she likes it now
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though let's do it by social side of
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things too especially it's a plane yeah
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they're not keeping you prisoner that
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makes me feel really bad when you say
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that because it's for your own good
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no I'll be there I'll be there with you
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the whole time I love you too
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bye bye yeah basically it's one thing
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you guys should know my mom Alzheimer's
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she loves the movies though yeah she
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always loved movies and I'm sure once
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she sees a camera she'll warm up you
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guys well these thing can be honest Dan
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yeah I mean if she starts to like you
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know have some discretion like if she
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starts short like well she's six or
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anything
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I guess we could I could talk to about
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it yeah okay thanks
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you guys been following this little
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scandal down at City Hall you've heard
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of Simon Sullivan he's the third
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generation millionaire he's a spoiled
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brat is what he is really this is the
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kind of thing that most people brush
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right over there's no big deal
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but folks this is our money you are
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giving your money so that's some rich
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brat to make fancy backroom deals with
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his friends we should be pissed about
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this this is the kind of thing society
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needs to stop and get behind and get
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pissed off and do something that's nice
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that's very nice I was just leaving so
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you're anything but you're still here
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you still on the clock I'm paying you to
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smoke a cigarette I don't think that's
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right now is he I know I was gonna close
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tonight just to give Jonah make
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decisions I know what you're trying to
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do with the overtime trying to make the
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house and behind my back you think I do
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you think I'm not aware of that okay
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this is not gonna happen tonight
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you know the only thing was meant like I
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would never talk to me like that
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never talk to me like that if you just
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bumped into me on the street man it's
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because of this fucking jacket this guy
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says one word to me and I swear to god
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I'm gonna take him down that's it no no
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last time he was a fuckin bitch you know
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I just fucking close I just posed right
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like like I just better play our paths
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never cross again us we got mad because
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I don't think he absolutely pushed from
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there meet in the now I guarantee that
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will only be one of us walking out of
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there man guys
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hey you guys see that guy I know where
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he lives
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how about 158 tall Cedar Drive guys up
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for a field trip tomorrow yeah I'm gonna
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take them down I'm gonna take them
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fucking down yeah
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I said you're you right you get angry at
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people all the time I can let it slide
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off that's maybe you can learn something
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I don't know how the fuck you do it man
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I don't know I just know bad things are
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gonna happen to people who act like
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assholes
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say goodbye assignment you let me see in
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this place no more now we're learning a
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little more about the connections he may
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have had with people he might have hung
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around with and it's starting to appear
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like a professional mob hit this guy was
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kind of a slimy frat boy type that we
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think he is maybe he had it coming
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I'm not condoning any of this I'm just
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saying again look folks you know you
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hang around with the wrong people these
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are the kind of things are gonna happen
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I can impress today with my hand slide
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flat the tire needs there there's no air
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it's flat I don't have to play do you
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all right how'd it go to store their gas
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station I'm gonna let the head I guess
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that's a first got to make it up to that
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obviously as we have any other option I
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mean we can't come to it's Rock even if
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we wanted to is it that body the trunk
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for god sakes you guys suggested here I
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don't know nothin about an apartment I'm
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gonna talk to him I don't want it not
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I'd rather get rid this problem first
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before we start talking to people let's
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try
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murmurs always got access to actually
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that's pretty good idea maybe she's not
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going to what kind of form is this
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anyway Wow so you actually slaughter
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pigs here too and that's the way you go
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to market you cannot say now I want to
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put this onto this bunch together yeah
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they kill each other really though are
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they all males it doesn't matter Merrill
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really all fix I carry them all okay
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they gotta be fixed because if he's not
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castrate them the government or whatever
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the sale be given nothing for them
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really nothing this work not to do some
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people will tell you that the fix that
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do it fix it you telling me strong I'm
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sorry my friend you come to my bar
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yeah even table walking okay it's not
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sticky Stanley but it's a farm yeah are
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we gonna do yeah
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little friendly right there and you you
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can cook that meal from that like a
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butter the top of the great maestro cows
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this is a bacon spareribs
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this is the kielbasa three feet long
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I can take it out for its perfect blend
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Anthony I'm not cheap but that's not
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even out there but that's when you eat
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raw we go to Houston for lunch if you
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want to type I never had like authentic
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cabbage roll actually it's a lot no I'll
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never go hungry that's for sure we can
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get that tire the way thank you for
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lunch so yeah thanks
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that was a hell of a nice family yeah
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those are great people unbelievable end
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of the day we end up dealing with two
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types of abductions that we're getting a
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confession pre-planned
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and spontaneous pre-planned would
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generally in many cases mean that maybe
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they've educated themselves because if
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you're going to the steps of planning go
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on and make sure you don't get caught
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again we have 5000 reports a year and if
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we're every missing person put 200
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officers while our budget would need to
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be about 15 times what it is you know
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again actively we have almost 700 cases
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right now
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most people know the hair and the skin
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are pretty easy to get rid of the most
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difficult part really is the bones right
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so here's what I do start with a good
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reciprocal saw probably thought about
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just throwing the body in a dumpster or
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something like that but you gotta have
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the discipline this is where the
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discipline comes into play no graft can
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keep this a good cleaning afterwards I
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think this is juice okay it's just that
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simple once you get a little pile of
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bones like that like these ones here I
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prepared for us
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and turn it up high all the way now it's
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got to go to at least 2,600 degrees
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Fahrenheit this thing goes up to 3,000
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so and that's it you know it's pretty
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straightforward you just keep repeating
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the process so you got it all done and
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you've got nothing but a sh it's time to
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take a little Drive little something I
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learned from a TV movie well very
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different types of serial killers but
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one of the most dangerous is the
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visionary killer this is a person who
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believes they're bettering society
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they're ridding a world of evil vermin
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however they or whoever they perceive
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that to be
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all right justice can can drive someone
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towards killing a lot of people and it
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also gives the ego a high degree of
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motivation for doing so
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got this
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right away can you smell that it's curry
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right you guys know that Chris I used to
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think it was a joke too
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but it's completely true then like what
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do you eat it just gets in you comes out
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your pores it flavors your your meat
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plate as your flesh
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I know it's especially for Chinese too I
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don't know why why would anyone want to
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eat the flesh of another human being
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what inspires cannibalism somewhere in
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the tzimmes damaged psyche we're taking
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a violent act to the this pent-up
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frustration sexual with abuse whatever
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is causing it we're taking it out on our
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environment around us controlling it and
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then taking it in transforms the actual
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act of killing into something that is
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that is nourishing so that doesn't it
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doesn't it's not bad anymore yeah it was
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kind of an experiment I guess remember
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that girl I told you about that John
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brought over laughter that one time she
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started coming over like fairly
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regularly which is great she's really
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affordable certainly sexual frustration
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you know is a common cause of violence
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homicidal behavior we call them the
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hedonists so this is a person whose
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degree of sexual frustration is so
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humiliating and embarrassing for them
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that they are painful really that
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they've gone on to the perpetrator their
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violent acts in a sexual framework
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anyway she was a really sweet girl I
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know she must have had like and call it
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arrhythmia yeah she just don't over she
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just seized up one night I couldn't do
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anything about it and I tried to I
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didn't really know what to do yeah like
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in bed about a question I don't know
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like I know she'd have any family and
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the thought of calling the cops she's
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gonna be around forever I'm certainly
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gonna remember her when she's a part of
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me now she's always gonna be around I
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know that
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where she is you know it's it's an
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ultimate control of our own environment
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to the point of which we're taking it
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inside of ourselves so if we look at you
543
00:39:38,020 --> 00:39:42,100
know serial killer in their past we may
544
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:44,620
discover that they are impotent they are
545
00:39:42,100 --> 00:39:46,090
unable to perform also it could be
546
00:39:44,620 --> 00:39:48,700
something as traumatizing as a rejection
547
00:39:46,090 --> 00:39:51,280
a strong sexual rejection from an early
548
00:39:48,700 --> 00:40:18,270
partner really it all boils down to a
549
00:39:51,280 --> 00:40:18,270
lack of love they don't even know
550
00:40:21,390 --> 00:40:26,260
exactly right everyone expects like
551
00:40:24,490 --> 00:40:27,940
ahead of Elector character right for a
552
00:40:26,260 --> 00:40:30,490
serial killer so on the exterior no
553
00:40:27,940 --> 00:40:33,970
one's ever gonna suspect me no one's
554
00:40:30,490 --> 00:40:35,380
going to suspect Fla I mean ideally you
555
00:40:33,970 --> 00:40:38,860
know you want to eat something that's
556
00:40:35,380 --> 00:40:45,990
been killed when it's 3-4 years old even
557
00:40:38,860 --> 00:40:48,060
younger okay right that's right yeah
558
00:40:45,990 --> 00:40:50,560
yeah I did actually
559
00:40:48,060 --> 00:40:53,470
well you get curious after a while like
560
00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:54,850
I mean like you totally it doesn't make
561
00:40:53,470 --> 00:40:58,900
a difference they did make a difference
562
00:40:54,850 --> 00:41:01,270
too it was very tender but it was pretty
563
00:40:58,900 --> 00:41:03,460
bad experience it was just like it
564
00:41:01,270 --> 00:41:04,720
brought on way too much heat like this
565
00:41:03,460 --> 00:41:07,330
you know what I was just talking about
566
00:41:04,720 --> 00:41:09,220
you know like because when kids go
567
00:41:07,330 --> 00:41:11,230
missing the whole world flips out right
568
00:41:09,220 --> 00:41:16,360
too much trouble and just I'd rather not
569
00:41:11,230 --> 00:41:18,370
have to deal with it you ever Ashley as
570
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:21,150
like Sedgwick I think you know I hardly
571
00:41:18,370 --> 00:41:26,170
remember it myself anymore
572
00:41:21,150 --> 00:41:30,600
yeah it was all over the TV no I think
573
00:41:26,170 --> 00:41:33,100
so no it was just the one time mm yeah
574
00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:35,860
it was just the ones they actually it
575
00:41:33,100 --> 00:41:37,690
was a huge case around here we have had
576
00:41:35,860 --> 00:41:39,220
and continued to follow some of the
577
00:41:37,690 --> 00:41:40,450
leads and certainly the case hasn't gone
578
00:41:39,220 --> 00:41:41,650
cold
579
00:41:40,450 --> 00:41:43,480
you know we still have it infected
580
00:41:41,650 --> 00:41:45,069
that's assigned to it doing follow-up we
581
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:46,089
did when it originally happened you know
582
00:41:45,069 --> 00:41:48,880
of course keep in mind this is almost
583
00:41:46,089 --> 00:41:51,010
two years ago now we had hundreds of
584
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:52,510
calls came in for the public but yeah
585
00:41:51,010 --> 00:42:25,329
generally speaking it's you know we're
586
00:41:52,510 --> 00:42:27,369
still working our name is Ashley
587
00:42:25,329 --> 00:42:29,440
Elizabeth Sedgwick this is the most
588
00:42:27,369 --> 00:42:32,799
recent picture I've got of her here she
589
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:36,849
was seven and she'll be nine in April
590
00:42:32,799 --> 00:42:39,640
she disappeared on December 6 of 2001
591
00:42:36,849 --> 00:42:41,349
from very Park that's just over there
592
00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:43,839
last she was seen that we were able to
593
00:42:41,349 --> 00:42:47,559
confirm was 4:30 about afternoon under
594
00:42:43,839 --> 00:42:49,690
76 her father about an hour later I
595
00:42:47,559 --> 00:42:52,269
called her what they've done for us to
596
00:42:49,690 --> 00:42:54,460
call her into for dinner actually wasn't
597
00:42:52,269 --> 00:42:57,050
important you can imagine it's any
598
00:42:54,460 --> 00:42:59,300
parent's nightmare come true
599
00:42:57,050 --> 00:43:02,450
all right this went into the other room
600
00:42:59,300 --> 00:43:06,500
for not even 30 seconds next time I look
601
00:43:02,450 --> 00:43:08,680
at I don't see her I figured she's just
602
00:43:06,500 --> 00:43:15,620
gone over to the store on the corner
603
00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:20,840
candy later Bieber's health and scoured
604
00:43:15,620 --> 00:43:22,880
the area everybody was so good the way
605
00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:24,920
that the the investigation has gone with
606
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:26,350
Ashley's we now believe it's a stranger
607
00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:28,280
abduction it was a stranger abduction
608
00:43:26,350 --> 00:43:29,720
we've gone through the process of
609
00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:32,540
dealing with family and friends and it's
610
00:43:29,720 --> 00:43:34,160
certainly the the information we have in
611
00:43:32,540 --> 00:43:35,720
the way the investigation has moved it's
612
00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:38,780
now meaning that Ashley was abducted by
613
00:43:35,720 --> 00:43:40,340
a stranger a fairly bold abduction a
614
00:43:38,780 --> 00:43:42,140
fairly bold a doctor no it's not about
615
00:43:40,340 --> 00:43:45,110
morality it's just it's a crapshoot I
616
00:43:42,140 --> 00:43:49,210
mean how many people die every day you
617
00:43:45,110 --> 00:43:49,210
know in every conceivable possible way
618
00:43:51,790 --> 00:43:57,220
tough luck like I mean that's you know
619
00:43:54,710 --> 00:43:57,220
that's what happens
620
00:43:58,390 --> 00:44:09,250
small flies here there but I found the
621
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:09,250
frustration
622
00:44:15,210 --> 00:44:22,750
not often library you know they would
623
00:44:18,580 --> 00:44:25,120
give live doesn't happen very often but
624
00:44:22,750 --> 00:44:27,400
you know the odds are vastly against it
625
00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:29,320
certainly it has happened but you know
626
00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:32,130
it's likely a point zero zero zero five
627
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:32,130
percent chance of it happening
628
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:49,059
I can't give up hope I'm sure then we'll
629
00:44:45,519 --> 00:44:51,099
find Ashley someday and all it takes is
630
00:44:49,059 --> 00:44:53,410
you know something like this where if
631
00:44:51,099 --> 00:44:55,450
someone saw this tape maybe maybe they'd
632
00:44:53,410 --> 00:44:56,019
recognize her from her picture there it
633
00:44:55,450 --> 00:44:57,130
is again
634
00:44:56,019 --> 00:44:58,180
the certainly since you guys are doing
635
00:44:57,130 --> 00:44:59,769
this documentary this would be an
636
00:44:58,180 --> 00:45:00,910
excellent opportunity to say that you
637
00:44:59,769 --> 00:45:03,279
know if there is anyone out there that
638
00:45:00,910 --> 00:45:04,930
has any information on the Ashley
639
00:45:03,279 --> 00:45:08,170
Chadwick case that you know come forward
640
00:45:04,930 --> 00:45:10,509
if you think they have seen these just
641
00:45:08,170 --> 00:45:12,220
just make that phone call tell
642
00:45:10,509 --> 00:45:15,130
authorities it's a devastating thing
643
00:45:12,220 --> 00:45:16,660
when you take a look at you know you
644
00:45:15,130 --> 00:45:18,880
look at Ashley she's she's a beautiful
645
00:45:16,660 --> 00:45:20,650
younger beautiful young girl and you
646
00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:22,359
take her and take her away from her
647
00:45:20,650 --> 00:45:23,799
family taking away from the father it's
648
00:45:22,359 --> 00:45:25,210
a traumatic event and you know the
649
00:45:23,799 --> 00:45:27,279
family's already had to deal with with
650
00:45:25,210 --> 00:45:29,410
tragedy because Ashley's mother had died
651
00:45:27,279 --> 00:45:33,329
a few years before that's before father
652
00:45:29,410 --> 00:45:33,329
had to lost his wife
653
00:45:49,470 --> 00:45:54,780
it's not much that I can't imagine doing
654
00:45:52,390 --> 00:45:57,010
for the worthless piece of scum
655
00:45:54,780 --> 00:45:59,050
perpetrate these kinds of crimes it's a
656
00:45:57,010 --> 00:46:01,690
father of two young girls I can tell you
657
00:45:59,050 --> 00:46:02,740
what I would do I would be responsible
658
00:46:01,690 --> 00:46:04,450
for my actions to death when I could
659
00:46:02,740 --> 00:46:05,920
tell you that right now I'm the type of
660
00:46:04,450 --> 00:46:08,070
person that likes to bring clothes and
661
00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:11,230
everything you have a say in cases that
662
00:46:08,070 --> 00:46:13,390
don't have closure don't have a certain
663
00:46:11,230 --> 00:46:14,830
degree of frustration but the end of the
664
00:46:13,390 --> 00:46:16,570
day I have a job to do you need to
665
00:46:14,830 --> 00:46:20,230
remain professionally you need to remain
666
00:46:16,570 --> 00:46:24,310
focused okay thank you nothing really
667
00:46:20,230 --> 00:46:26,340
appreciated thank Savannah okay take
668
00:46:24,310 --> 00:46:26,340
care
669
00:46:40,460 --> 00:46:47,910
deities come in places like this the
670
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:50,780
playgrounds no arcades swimming pools
671
00:46:47,910 --> 00:46:54,770
any place gates congregate
672
00:46:50,780 --> 00:46:57,950
it's like a supermarket for tech yeah I
673
00:46:54,770 --> 00:46:57,950
mean we're getting
674
00:46:58,530 --> 00:47:09,119
I didn't hurt her at all I mean it was
675
00:47:01,590 --> 00:47:19,470
very quick and I tried not to scare her
676
00:47:09,119 --> 00:47:20,849
too much I fully thought about it they
677
00:47:19,470 --> 00:47:24,030
made the most sexist we're not beyond 11
678
00:47:20,849 --> 00:47:27,300
I mean I didn't know she lived right
679
00:47:24,030 --> 00:47:29,940
there but double-pointed uniform
680
00:47:27,300 --> 00:47:57,240
she's very trusting but it was very
681
00:47:29,940 --> 00:47:59,250
quick like I planned it so that we're
682
00:47:57,240 --> 00:48:01,320
not going to stop we're going to
683
00:47:59,250 --> 00:48:04,230
continue and we will eventually be
684
00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:06,000
successful in locating you so the best
685
00:48:04,230 --> 00:48:09,210
thing you can do is to come forward now
686
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:10,950
and communicate with us so that we can
687
00:48:09,210 --> 00:48:13,410
bring closure to these incidents Tony
688
00:48:10,950 --> 00:48:15,060
Prince here with you the Prince of
689
00:48:13,410 --> 00:48:17,970
Darkness II sometimes call me they also
690
00:48:15,060 --> 00:48:19,170
call me prettiest face in radio the
691
00:48:17,970 --> 00:48:21,450
voice of reason if you prefer we've been
692
00:48:19,170 --> 00:48:22,349
following this Simon Sullivan case and
693
00:48:21,450 --> 00:48:24,540
folks this keeps getting more
694
00:48:22,349 --> 00:48:25,680
interesting it turns out he wasn't
695
00:48:24,540 --> 00:48:26,369
running well he may been running with
696
00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:28,770
the wrong crowd but they weren't
697
00:48:26,369 --> 00:48:30,810
involved in this murder and I may be led
698
00:48:28,770 --> 00:48:33,119
people to believe that Sullivan got we
699
00:48:30,810 --> 00:48:36,470
deserved turns out he was murdered by a
700
00:48:33,119 --> 00:48:38,490
disgruntled restaurant valet who
701
00:48:36,470 --> 00:48:39,750
apparently Sullivan ghost his restaurant
702
00:48:38,490 --> 00:48:46,710
regularly in his valet had a run-in with
703
00:48:39,750 --> 00:48:50,010
him the previous night I guess it's no
704
00:48:46,710 --> 00:48:52,710
secret you know John hated the guy and I
705
00:48:50,010 --> 00:48:55,170
guess a lot of people hated him so in
706
00:48:52,710 --> 00:48:57,480
the days leading up to his disappearance
707
00:48:55,170 --> 00:48:59,609
yeah things leading up to Sullivan's
708
00:48:57,480 --> 00:49:02,310
disappearance I thought John was acting
709
00:48:59,609 --> 00:49:03,510
maybe a little aggressively you know and
710
00:49:02,310 --> 00:49:06,260
then after his disappearance
711
00:49:03,510 --> 00:49:08,099
Sullivan's disappearance I thought
712
00:49:06,260 --> 00:49:11,200
changed a little bit started acting
713
00:49:08,099 --> 00:49:16,720
different different way
714
00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:18,700
no been weirder when somebody started
715
00:49:16,720 --> 00:49:21,390
closing trash that's when you suspect to
716
00:49:18,700 --> 00:49:24,010
be involved in his disappearance yeah
717
00:49:21,390 --> 00:49:27,400
yeah when I saw Sullivan's bloody suit
718
00:49:24,010 --> 00:49:28,559
in his trash bin that's when I said to
719
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:34,210
myself
720
00:49:28,559 --> 00:49:35,829
John John man what have you done and you
721
00:49:34,210 --> 00:49:37,869
know I wanted to be a good citizen
722
00:49:35,829 --> 00:49:40,270
it's not easy turning in your best
723
00:49:37,869 --> 00:49:44,890
friend but I just had to come you guys
724
00:49:40,270 --> 00:49:46,900
so you know this this valet besides he
725
00:49:44,890 --> 00:49:48,910
can just take out some of them this is
726
00:49:46,900 --> 00:49:50,020
his reaction to some kind of little
727
00:49:48,910 --> 00:49:52,450
run-in this is what people think they
728
00:49:50,020 --> 00:49:54,609
can just take their anger to the extreme
729
00:49:52,450 --> 00:49:57,450
and murder someone simply because they
730
00:49:54,609 --> 00:49:57,450
might have tipped you enough
731
00:50:53,490 --> 00:50:58,390
anyway I I would like to apologize to
732
00:50:56,470 --> 00:51:01,930
the Sullivans family just for for that
733
00:50:58,390 --> 00:51:02,950
part of my earlier statements maybe he
734
00:51:01,930 --> 00:51:07,030
certainly didn't deserve this
735
00:51:02,950 --> 00:51:09,360
John Villar a guy taking them out you
736
00:51:07,030 --> 00:51:09,360
guys see that
737
00:51:41,340 --> 00:51:58,360
okay okay what do i do do I show up
738
00:51:51,610 --> 00:51:59,590
right away okay grace not right now it's
739
00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:01,770
kind of important call I'll be down
740
00:51:59,590 --> 00:52:01,770
there
741
00:52:09,060 --> 00:52:14,680
okay yeah
742
00:52:10,599 --> 00:52:16,990
sorry but thank you sir I think I need
743
00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:22,440
you guys to leave you have to leave I
744
00:52:16,990 --> 00:52:22,440
just got back call my mom she's dead
745
00:52:24,300 --> 00:52:39,720
somebody no no no I don't think that's
746
00:52:33,690 --> 00:52:39,720
right now absolutely
747
00:53:26,250 --> 00:54:34,740
come on guys I really want you guys here
748
00:53:28,690 --> 00:54:38,920
to begin with you guys sickness at all
749
00:54:34,740 --> 00:54:47,349
follow me around my boring life
750
00:54:38,920 --> 00:54:50,500
I don't know maybe something new will
751
00:54:47,349 --> 00:54:55,450
change but nothing major
752
00:54:50,500 --> 00:54:57,339
I mean I figure you know I've got a
753
00:54:55,450 --> 00:54:58,539
second chance at things I guess the near
754
00:54:57,339 --> 00:55:02,920
always makes it think that way I don't
755
00:54:58,539 --> 00:55:15,690
know especially with recent events as
756
00:55:02,920 --> 00:55:15,690
soon as it soon as it hits 12 week old
757
00:55:16,740 --> 00:55:21,130
besides that once more tricks there then
758
00:55:20,079 --> 00:55:23,369
we should go back to my place for some
759
00:55:21,130 --> 00:55:23,369
more
760
00:56:10,339 --> 00:56:17,520
yeah okay sure let's let's get up though
761
00:56:13,260 --> 00:56:18,540
you guys gotta get up okay so who does
762
00:56:17,520 --> 00:56:23,520
it that's host I guess I'd do it right
763
00:56:18,540 --> 00:56:26,849
now okay there's an old one
764
00:56:23,520 --> 00:56:28,950
I remember your here's the champagne for
765
00:56:26,849 --> 00:56:32,420
real friends and real pain for sham
766
00:56:28,950 --> 00:56:32,420
friends Cheers
767
00:56:33,920 --> 00:56:46,640
still probably wrote that for filmmakers
768
00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:46,640
here so this is basically it right
769
00:56:50,060 --> 00:57:00,839
awesome and when when are people gonna
770
00:56:53,430 --> 00:57:02,280
see it what happens when you're finished
771
00:57:00,839 --> 00:57:07,680
with that like editing it what happens
772
00:57:02,280 --> 00:57:09,930
to all the tapes so when's the money
773
00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:18,990
start rolling in like possibly if
774
00:57:09,930 --> 00:57:21,510
someone buys it that's the process I
775
00:57:18,990 --> 00:57:27,869
also want to make sure I get whatever my
776
00:57:21,510 --> 00:57:32,089
share of the money is we're all men of
777
00:57:27,869 --> 00:57:32,089
our word yeah
778
00:57:32,859 --> 00:57:37,990
no no I mean obviously not like it's
779
00:57:35,599 --> 00:57:37,990
just you know
780
00:59:17,320 --> 00:59:20,950
way back to
781
00:59:24,420 --> 00:59:27,470
everything's changing
782
00:59:46,930 --> 00:59:51,710
well folks it's come to this I hope
783
00:59:50,390 --> 00:59:53,690
you're sitting down got a little
784
00:59:51,710 --> 00:59:56,170
surprise for you we've been promising
785
00:59:53,690 --> 00:59:58,940
you a special guest for awhile and
786
00:59:56,170 --> 01:00:00,260
specialist definitely in quotes on this
787
00:59:58,940 --> 01:00:03,910
we've been covering this case for a long
788
01:00:00,260 --> 01:00:07,100
time we have live from cellblock three
789
01:00:03,910 --> 01:00:09,830
Anthony McAlister and I'm going to give
790
01:00:07,100 --> 01:00:12,800
him two minutes to talk about his
791
01:00:09,830 --> 01:00:14,300
organic food program I know you'll be on
792
01:00:12,800 --> 01:00:15,800
the edge of your seats and then we'll
793
01:00:14,300 --> 01:00:18,140
get into what we really need to discuss
794
01:00:15,800 --> 01:00:19,310
well I'd like to say thank you first of
795
01:00:18,140 --> 01:00:20,780
all thanks to your producers anyway I
796
01:00:19,310 --> 01:00:22,250
know you weren't keen on having me on
797
01:00:20,780 --> 01:00:24,080
but as you know I've always been
798
01:00:22,250 --> 01:00:26,840
interested in nutrition I used to have
799
01:00:24,080 --> 01:00:28,940
very unfortunate and sick ideas on the
800
01:00:26,840 --> 01:00:31,250
topic but I will - annal a lot of that
801
01:00:28,940 --> 01:00:33,140
in energy into this new program which
802
01:00:31,250 --> 01:00:34,490
stresses natural foods organic foods
803
01:00:33,140 --> 01:00:35,750
when I first got here for instance me
804
01:00:34,490 --> 01:00:37,160
the inmates were just you know banging
805
01:00:35,750 --> 01:00:39,470
off the walls practically we were in
806
01:00:37,160 --> 01:00:41,300
lockdown every other day now since I've
807
01:00:39,470 --> 01:00:42,830
lobbied the authorities to take refined
808
01:00:41,300 --> 01:00:45,080
sugar for instance out of our diet a
809
01:00:42,830 --> 01:00:46,730
real wave of calmness has taken over the
810
01:00:45,080 --> 01:00:48,590
whole institution it's allowed to
811
01:00:46,730 --> 01:00:50,270
everyone to concentrate I think a bit
812
01:00:48,590 --> 01:00:51,500
deeper and to get on with their lives
813
01:00:50,270 --> 01:00:52,880
and to get on with learning how to
814
01:00:51,500 --> 01:00:54,590
reintegrate into society I think it's a
815
01:00:52,880 --> 01:00:57,200
fantastic program then we can assume
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that the guards are your fellow inmates
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are not part of what you call organic or
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natural food yeah you can assume that
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well I think it's warranted in this case
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anyway congratulations we're all very
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excited you know I don't appreciate the
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the mockery with which you eat me within
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my life with I mean well we don't know
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we don't appreciate all that you've done
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in our society either so let's call it
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even shall we well I tried to move on
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clearly well your your victims families
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can't move on your victims can't move on
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your I'm glad that you're moving on but
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some people aren't quite prepared to did
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you even understand that mr. McAlister
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do you feel any remorse for your crimes
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whatsoever of course I feel a great deal
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of remorse clearly I myself of terrible
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crimes and what I did I did because of
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that illness
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I had you know terrible understanding of
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the world
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a bad childhood - I'm not I'm not trying
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to make excuses I'm only explaining that
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what I did I did because I thought
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really what I was doing was normal and I
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know how sick that is but it's people
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like these like you and these two other
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gentlemen these filmmakers who profit
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off of my crime don't lump me in those
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filmmakers don't lump me in but those
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film I'm the one in prison and other
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01:02:09,950 --> 01:02:15,530
people are profiting from these crimes
850
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if cannibalism were legal today would
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you still be eating people you know why
852
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not that's certainly gonna come up with
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your parole hearings no first of all
854
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obviously that there's no chance that
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cannibalism you know whatever become
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legal but indulge me let's pretend it is
857
01:02:31,330 --> 01:02:37,570
well listen I I have no intention of
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going back to my former self my former
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lifestyle I don't want to live as it
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were or feed as it were off of other
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people's misery anymore unlike yourself
862
01:02:45,080 --> 01:02:49,910
why should I or anyone believe a word
863
01:02:46,820 --> 01:02:51,500
you're saying well why should I lie my
864
01:02:49,910 --> 01:02:52,670
life is an open book now well you should
865
01:02:51,500 --> 01:02:54,260
why because you're gonna wanna you want
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01:02:52,670 --> 01:02:55,580
to get out and on the outside and
867
01:02:54,260 --> 01:02:57,710
continue doing what you were doing you
868
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have every reason I don't want to be
869
01:02:57,710 --> 01:03:00,650
what I'm doing to do what I was doing I
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01:02:59,600 --> 01:03:02,510
mean that's your putting words into my
871
01:03:00,650 --> 01:03:04,070
mind oh I'm sure I'm giving you said why
872
01:03:02,510 --> 01:03:05,750
why should you lie and I'm telling you
873
01:03:04,070 --> 01:03:08,480
that's a very very valid reason why you
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01:03:05,750 --> 01:03:09,890
would but you can't see what's in me
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01:03:08,480 --> 01:03:12,110
though I mean you you can't know what's
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01:03:09,890 --> 01:03:13,910
in my heart and I can only tell you
877
01:03:12,110 --> 01:03:17,150
actually be honest well I can only be
878
01:03:13,910 --> 01:03:18,650
honest that I have no interest in you
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01:03:17,150 --> 01:03:20,180
know becoming or going back to the kind
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01:03:18,650 --> 01:03:21,920
of person I was well that's excellent
881
01:03:20,180 --> 01:03:24,140
we appreciate your your transparency
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01:03:21,920 --> 01:03:26,750
it's very noble of you thank you I don't
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01:03:24,140 --> 01:03:29,180
appreciate your mockery well we don't
884
01:03:26,750 --> 01:03:32,180
appreciate the circumstances that lead
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01:03:29,180 --> 01:03:34,670
you to even be on this program and I
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01:03:32,180 --> 01:03:35,990
normally thank guests for taking the
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time I don't feel it's appropriate in
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this case I just like to conclude thank
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you okay
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