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It could have been Ince, or Adams, even McManaman! 00:56.960 --> 00:59.760 D'you want to get out of here alive tonight? 01:00.760 --> 01:04.400 Hey... this'll cheer you up. 01:04.400 --> 01:05.920 A wee disco shandy! 01:05.920 --> 01:07.600 Do you know how many police drink in here? 01:07.600 --> 01:10.800 Don't be a handbrake, Alex, I'll get rid of it, quickly. 01:13.880 --> 01:17.480 That Rosie, eh? World class. 01:17.480 --> 01:20.560 I don't trust you... She's all right. 01:20.560 --> 01:22.520 I'll get her to come tonight. 01:22.520 --> 01:25.520 Don't scare her. She won't anyway. 01:25.520 --> 01:27.640 Not for you, she won't. 01:27.640 --> 01:31.680 'Set You Free' by N-Trance 01:33.400 --> 01:35.280 This song, again?! 01:35.280 --> 01:37.840 ♪ Only love can set you free. ♪ 01:37.840 --> 01:40.440 Well, can love clean the glass-washer plughole? Just once? 01:40.440 --> 01:42.080 Is he in here? 01:42.080 --> 01:45.040 Who? Your man. Don't have a man. 01:45.040 --> 01:46.960 Yes, you do, you just won't tell me who it is. 01:46.960 --> 01:48.800 You got me. It's your dad. 01:48.800 --> 01:51.040 Oh, screw you. 01:51.040 --> 01:53.000 Hello, beautiful. 01:53.000 --> 01:54.880 Ah. Iona'll help you. 01:54.880 --> 01:57.400 I don't want Iona. I want you. 02:02.000 --> 02:03.440 He better watch it. 02:05.480 --> 02:06.880 Her brothers'll crush him. 02:06.880 --> 02:09.600 Right. So, are you gonna go, or am I? 02:12.640 --> 02:14.920 Party time, weasels! 02:14.920 --> 02:16.120 Youse go, I'll catch you up. 02:16.120 --> 02:18.840 Road beer? Aye, one for me, too! 02:32.960 --> 02:34.720 Rosie... 02:35.960 --> 02:38.520 ...that's where we'll be. 02:47.280 --> 02:49.920 Football's a simple game, mate. Oh, God. 02:49.920 --> 02:52.080 22 men chase the ball round for 90 minutes... 02:52.080 --> 02:53.280 Can you just let me grieve? 02:53.280 --> 02:55.120 And at the end, the Germans always win. 02:55.120 --> 02:58.080 Where's your team, huh? # It's coming home 02:58.080 --> 03:03.000 ♪ It's coming home, it's coming Football's coming home. ♪ 03:07.480 --> 03:10.680 You mind if I pop out? Where you going? 03:10.680 --> 03:14.280 If Col or Bri or anyone ask, just say I'm changing the line. 03:14.280 --> 03:16.560 They're out their tree, they won't notice. 03:16.560 --> 03:19.680 You going to meet him? I'll be back before you close up. 03:19.680 --> 03:21.240 Everyone's steamin', Rosie. 03:21.240 --> 03:24.840 Well, if there's trouble, call the police. They're on table 9. 03:24.840 --> 03:26.280 Enjoy your shag. 03:48.240 --> 03:49.600 ENGINE REVS 03:57.520 --> 03:59.760 SCREAMS 04:05.400 --> 04:07.560 RADIO STATIC 04:09.560 --> 04:13.040 'The Prime Minister condemned the violence as disgraceful.' 04:13.040 --> 04:15.040 'These people should not besmirch soccer. 04:15.040 --> 04:18.320 'They are not soccer supporters, they do damage to soccer.' 04:18.320 --> 04:21.120 'However, the violence was not confined to London...' 04:21.120 --> 04:23.600 SEARCHING FOR CHANNEL 04:23.600 --> 04:26.560 MUSIC 04:31.000 --> 04:34.280 INDISTINCT SHOUTING, ENGINE STARTS 04:43.440 --> 04:47.200 Hey. Hey, break it up. 04:48.520 --> 04:52.520 I'm going to need a statement from you... and one from the box. 04:52.520 --> 04:56.480 Oh, Janice, don't you start. Start what? You're drunk. 05:03.440 --> 05:05.360 I need a lift. 05:05.360 --> 05:07.560 Do I look like a cabbie? Come on. 05:07.560 --> 05:10.080 This is public intoxication. 05:11.680 --> 05:13.880 Let me come home with you, then? 05:13.880 --> 05:17.520 Ah, nae funny business. I promise. I won't even try it. 05:18.760 --> 05:21.040 TURNS MUSIC UP Have a nice walk, Colin. 05:30.400 --> 05:34.680 'Baby Lover' by Petula Clark 05:34.680 --> 05:37.920 ♪ Come share with me 05:37.920 --> 05:40.280 ♪ All of life's Precious schemes... ♪ 05:40.280 --> 05:42.160 SHE GASPS 05:45.120 --> 05:47.360 Police. Police... 05:47.360 --> 05:50.000 You stay right there. No, no, you need to come. 05:50.000 --> 05:52.120 What's happened? Ambulance, call an ambulance. 05:52.120 --> 05:53.680 We... We tried to help her. Help who? 05:53.680 --> 05:56.680 We just found her, we didn't do it. 05:58.960 --> 06:02.440 I said stay there! Call an ambulance, she's dying! 06:07.760 --> 06:10.760 Quebec Sierra Five Three. Urgent assistance needed, 06:10.760 --> 06:13.720 possible fatality in the cathedral grounds. 06:15.320 --> 06:17.520 Ziggy... I've got the police. 06:17.520 --> 06:19.400 Where is she? 06:19.400 --> 06:22.600 She's there, she's there. 06:28.680 --> 06:31.280 RETCHING 06:33.120 --> 06:34.480 Rosie. 06:36.320 --> 06:37.840 Rosie. 07:04.800 --> 07:07.680 'The Turning Of Our Bones' by Arab Strap 07:11.440 --> 07:13.440 ♪ Dig us up and hold us high 07:16.400 --> 07:19.440 ♪ Raise our carcass to the sky 07:21.360 --> 07:24.480 ♪ Wrap us up in sequin sky 07:25.880 --> 07:29.400 ♪ And we can dance again in sin 07:32.120 --> 07:34.680 ♪ Just take my hand and be brave 07:34.680 --> 07:37.080 ♪ We'll say goodbye to this grave 07:37.080 --> 07:39.760 ♪ Tonight we salsa, we rave 07:39.760 --> 07:42.040 ♪ We are upcycled and saved 07:42.040 --> 07:44.320 ♪ We've got the hay, so let's roll 07:44.320 --> 07:46.840 ♪ Surrender all self-control 07:46.840 --> 07:49.400 ♪ Quick, now, before the bell tolls 07:49.400 --> 07:52.760 ♪ Let's sing the sighs From their souls. ♪ 08:12.080 --> 08:14.960 'I'm walking amongst the ruins of an old cathedral. 08:17.120 --> 08:19.760 'Ancient archways and crumbling spires, 08:19.760 --> 08:23.160 'emerging out of a cliff on the eastern edge of Scotland. 08:24.240 --> 08:27.680 'It's picturesque, like most of St Andrews. 08:27.680 --> 08:30.760 'A charming and historic university town. 08:30.760 --> 08:34.640 'But I'm trying to imagine something much darker 08:34.640 --> 08:37.920 'and more devastating. 08:37.920 --> 08:42.360 'Because on 27th June 1996, 08:42.360 --> 08:45.640 'a 19-year-old barmaid named Rosemary Duff 08:45.640 --> 08:48.840 'was found here strangled, cut across the stomach 08:49.320 --> 08:52.360 'and left to bleed out into the grass. 08:53.520 --> 08:56.880 'Three boys that she knew were found leaving the scene. 08:56.880 --> 09:00.160 'Did they stumble across her on the way home from a party 09:00.160 --> 09:01.680 'like they said they did? 09:01.680 --> 09:05.000 'Were they covered in her blood because they tried to save her life? 09:05.000 --> 09:08.400 'Or was that all a clever cover story? 09:11.280 --> 09:13.800 'It's now 25 years later... 09:13.800 --> 09:16.720 'and the murder remains unsolved. 09:16.720 --> 09:20.640 'I'm Bel Richmond, this is Echoes: The Rosie Duff Case. 09:20.640 --> 09:23.160 'And I'm here to ask.... why? 09:23.160 --> 09:27.560 'Why did they feel this young woman didn't deserve justice?' 09:27.560 --> 09:31.520 This... This is what passes for journalism now, is it? 09:31.520 --> 09:33.640 A sultry voice and a bit of a jingle? 09:33.640 --> 09:36.440 Her angle seems to be that the original investigation 09:36.440 --> 09:39.000 was negligent. Victim-blaming. 09:39.000 --> 09:42.040 That because Rosie was out by herself in the early hours, 09:42.040 --> 09:43.760 we didn't prioritise the case. 09:43.760 --> 09:46.120 Well, you were there, was that true? 09:46.120 --> 09:47.640 No! Of course not. 09:47.640 --> 09:49.920 But, admittedly, it doesn't look good 09:49.920 --> 09:52.120 that we've never launched a review. 09:52.120 --> 09:55.400 Because there's no new evidence. We'd be going through the motions 09:55.400 --> 09:58.880 because some woke millennial's found a microphone. 09:58.880 --> 10:01.240 Listen, we underestimate her at our peril. 10:01.240 --> 10:03.320 She gave the Met hell over a missing person's case 10:03.320 --> 10:05.720 and the Chief Constable doesn't want the same for us. 10:05.720 --> 10:08.880 We have to stay ahead of her. Right. 10:08.880 --> 10:12.120 So I put some poor sod on it for damage control, 10:12.120 --> 10:13.880 with no hope of solving it. 10:13.880 --> 10:16.720 It's good experience for a young detective. 10:16.720 --> 10:20.200 And, given the angle of the podcast, 10:20.200 --> 10:23.960 I think it would help the optics if it was a female officer. 10:23.960 --> 10:25.200 Eh... 10:25.200 --> 10:27.480 You got one of those? 10:27.480 --> 10:31.000 DISTANT MUSIC AND SHOUTING 10:37.840 --> 10:40.720 These flats are tiny. 10:40.720 --> 10:46.160 There's no way he hid 50k worth of stuff in there and she had no idea. 10:46.160 --> 10:49.760 Yeah, women should be more vigilant. 10:49.760 --> 10:51.440 "I really like him, sweetheart, 10:51.440 --> 10:54.080 "but you just make sure he's not hiding stolen iPads 10:54.080 --> 10:56.640 "under your floorboards." Right. 10:56.640 --> 10:59.280 Tracey, we're just here to get your witness statement. 10:59.280 --> 11:02.240 It's not a good time. Are you OK? 11:02.240 --> 11:04.840 Yeah, yeah. Tracey! 11:04.840 --> 11:06.560 D'you need help? No. No, I'm fine. 11:06.560 --> 11:09.560 Come on, let me in. What is that noise? 11:09.560 --> 11:13.320 Oh. He's here... we're back together. 11:13.320 --> 11:15.680 Right... Come on, darling, let me in. 11:15.680 --> 11:18.080 But he came home drunk... Right... 11:18.080 --> 11:20.880 BANGING So I locked him out on the balcony. 11:20.880 --> 11:23.200 Right. We're coming in now, Tracey. 11:23.200 --> 11:27.280 Why don't me and you have a chat in here? 11:27.280 --> 11:29.040 I've changed my mind about testifying. 11:29.040 --> 11:31.760 We're with the police. I'm gonna need you to come inside, please. 11:31.760 --> 11:34.080 What's the police doing here? We've talked about this. 11:34.080 --> 11:35.680 I'm not gonna help you put him away. 11:35.680 --> 11:37.680 You will be an accessory to his crimes, Tracey. 11:37.680 --> 11:40.320 I didn't know what he was doing. You'll have to prove that in court. 11:40.320 --> 11:42.600 Do you really want to go through all of that for him? 11:44.040 --> 11:46.160 Ah... 11:46.160 --> 11:49.920 Right. Why don't... we go down to the station, Tracey? 11:49.920 --> 11:51.160 Don't! Mind your step. 11:51.160 --> 11:54.520 And we can talk about this properly. I'm not going. Don't touch me! 11:54.520 --> 11:57.120 RETCHES Oh... 11:58.360 --> 12:01.120 SPITS AND COUGHS 12:15.560 --> 12:17.520 Pub? 12:17.520 --> 12:20.360 I need to be hosed down. 12:20.360 --> 12:22.720 Mine's round the corner. 12:22.720 --> 12:26.880 I've got half a bottle of Echo Falls and some Bacardi Breezers. 12:26.880 --> 12:29.360 What would I need the pub for? 12:30.880 --> 12:34.280 Just... approach the shower slowly. 12:34.280 --> 12:37.400 It hasn't seen a naked man in some time. 12:42.160 --> 12:44.880 LAUGHING Wait, you don't remember it? 12:44.880 --> 12:47.440 No! That hen party? 12:50.120 --> 12:55.000 Yeah! They were all fighting each other. 12:55.000 --> 12:57.160 Hair extensions flying. 12:57.160 --> 13:00.600 I walked in first, and I was screaming at the top of my lungs, 13:00.600 --> 13:02.920 and they took no notice of me, and then you walked in... 13:02.920 --> 13:05.400 They thought I was a stripper. No, they didn't! 13:05.400 --> 13:10.280 Aye! They did! One of them tried to ride me like a pony. 13:10.280 --> 13:11.960 Best day of your life. 13:11.960 --> 13:16.560 Well, today, I got to wear your fun run T-shirt, so... 13:16.560 --> 13:18.640 Take it off if you don't like it. 13:18.640 --> 13:21.280 No, no, you'd enjoy that too much. 13:22.480 --> 13:25.200 That's pretty cocky for a man that smells like sick. 13:26.640 --> 13:27.960 Are you serious? 13:29.560 --> 13:30.880 Nah. 13:43.120 --> 13:45.120 Erm... 13:52.920 --> 13:57.440 Hey, you hear Serious Crime are putting together a Case Review team? 13:57.440 --> 13:59.000 No? 13:59.000 --> 14:01.440 Unsolved murder from '96. 14:05.720 --> 14:08.680 I've been waiting for this kind of opening. 14:08.680 --> 14:12.960 I've been speaking to Lees for so long about DS positions, 14:12.960 --> 14:14.920 it's gotta be me next. 14:14.920 --> 14:17.360 You going up in the world? 14:17.360 --> 14:19.920 If everything goes to plan. 14:19.920 --> 14:21.960 You don't wanna be vommed on 14:21.960 --> 14:25.160 and humped by the riff-raff for me any more? 14:25.160 --> 14:27.160 I mean, I hope not. 14:28.520 --> 14:32.280 Who are you trying to get away from? Riff-raff or me? 14:32.280 --> 14:34.080 What's the difference? 14:38.720 --> 14:41.680 You're an arsehole. You know that? 14:41.680 --> 14:43.760 Yeah... 14:46.200 --> 14:48.560 ...but I think you like it. 15:09.240 --> 15:11.800 PHONE CHIMES 15:23.880 --> 15:26.120 DS Pirie. 15:27.760 --> 15:30.200 Oh... 15:31.520 --> 15:34.800 Yeah, fine. Fine. 15:34.800 --> 15:38.160 OK. Wow! 15:39.400 --> 15:41.080 Great. 15:41.080 --> 15:45.000 Delighted. Just surprised, really. 15:45.000 --> 15:48.680 Thank you, Sir. I'll speak to you soon. 15:51.560 --> 15:53.680 Was that Robertson? 15:56.400 --> 15:58.320 DI Lees. 16:01.160 --> 16:02.920 Why was he calling? 16:06.520 --> 16:08.760 Was it the review? 16:13.720 --> 16:16.040 Does he want to meet you? 16:17.840 --> 16:19.920 I'm running it. 16:21.640 --> 16:23.520 What? 16:25.120 --> 16:28.720 I'm running the review. Apparently. 16:48.640 --> 16:51.440 I'm sorry. Don't... 16:51.440 --> 16:54.200 Don't be sorry. 16:58.240 --> 17:00.760 I don't understand this. It's... 17:02.840 --> 17:04.760 It's fine. 17:06.760 --> 17:09.120 You're getting up and you're getting dressed, 17:09.120 --> 17:11.400 so it doesn't seem that fine. 17:14.920 --> 17:19.320 Look. I'll, er... I'll speak to you later, OK? 17:19.320 --> 17:21.880 I just... 17:21.880 --> 17:25.280 I need... I need some air. 17:31.000 --> 17:33.480 DOOR OPENS 17:33.480 --> 17:37.480 DOOR CLOSES, SCOFFS 17:39.720 --> 17:41.920 PHONE ALERT 17:45.360 --> 17:48.320 'Nine out of ten murders are committed by men. 17:48.320 --> 17:52.320 'Two women a week are killed by a current or ex-partner. 17:52.320 --> 17:53.920 'And one in three women 17:53.920 --> 17:57.480 'will experience domestic abuse in their lifetime. 17:57.480 --> 18:00.120 'Take that in. 18:01.480 --> 18:04.640 'Every woman I know has accepted it as a fact 18:04.640 --> 18:07.240 'that she should call a friend when she walks home at night, 18:07.240 --> 18:11.440 'that she should placate and speak sweetly to men 18:11.440 --> 18:13.800 'so as not to provoke violence. 18:13.800 --> 18:17.200 'That she should have her keys ready between her knuckles. 18:17.200 --> 18:21.080 'When are we going to admit that it's not enough? 18:21.080 --> 18:25.200 'That it will never be enough? That we were never the problem. 18:26.400 --> 18:30.240 'Rosie Duff had a sex life. She had secrets. 18:30.240 --> 18:33.200 'She went out at night alone to meet someone. 18:33.200 --> 18:36.400 'And I... I think that's why the police 18:36.400 --> 18:39.040 'gave up on her case so quickly. 18:39.040 --> 18:42.080 'A woman who isn't doing everything in her power 18:42.080 --> 18:44.960 'not to get murdered deserves what she gets? 18:44.960 --> 18:50.200 'No, Rosie and all the Rosies deserve better.' 18:51.680 --> 18:54.160 We were friends. We spoke every day. 18:54.160 --> 18:57.000 Friends who wanted to ride each other. 19:00.280 --> 19:02.880 Maybe, after he got what he wanted...? 19:02.880 --> 19:04.560 Or maybe he just really wanted that job. 19:04.560 --> 19:07.640 I've no idea why they gave it to me. Uh, because you're brilliant. 19:07.640 --> 19:10.800 Phil's brilliant. And he's got a better success rate than me. 19:10.800 --> 19:12.280 He's worked with Lees before, 19:12.280 --> 19:14.240 and he's been waiting longer to move up. 19:14.240 --> 19:16.120 So, why did they give it to you? 19:16.120 --> 19:19.920 I'm joking! I did say you were brilliant first! 19:21.280 --> 19:23.880 I don't have a clue what I'm doing. Just pretend you do. 19:23.880 --> 19:25.160 Like everyone else. 19:44.760 --> 19:47.280 'Doors closing.' 19:55.800 --> 19:58.040 DS Pirie, DI Lees. 19:58.040 --> 19:59.880 Welcome to Serious Crime. Happy to have you. 19:59.880 --> 20:02.160 Pleasure to be here, Sir. Walk with me. 20:02.160 --> 20:04.080 I'll introduce you to the rest of the team, 20:04.080 --> 20:05.560 but first I want to get you briefed. 20:05.560 --> 20:07.120 We haven't got time to waste on this. 20:07.120 --> 20:09.320 No, I suppose it'll be 26 years soon, eh? 20:09.320 --> 20:11.440 Yeah. 20:11.440 --> 20:13.720 I gather you're from Fife, Pirie? 20:13.720 --> 20:16.320 Methil, Sir. You remember it, then? 20:16.320 --> 20:19.000 Rosie Duff murder? Would've been all over the news. 20:19.000 --> 20:22.600 I was three, Sir. Three? Jesus. 20:22.600 --> 20:25.360 Well, at least you'll be up with all the podcasting nonsense, then. 20:25.360 --> 20:26.800 Yes, Sir. Good. 20:26.800 --> 20:28.840 Ideally, we would have shut the whole thing down, 20:28.840 --> 20:31.440 but we don't have the power. So just watch her closely, 20:31.440 --> 20:34.440 if she oversteps the mark, then we can slap her with an injunction. 20:34.440 --> 20:35.960 Watch her closely. Got it. 20:35.960 --> 20:38.560 I've had all your files brought up and I'm around if you need me, 20:38.560 --> 20:40.560 but I'm across six other investigations, so... 20:40.560 --> 20:41.760 Get on with it. 20:41.760 --> 20:44.480 Yeah. Get on with it, yeah. 20:44.480 --> 20:46.120 Sir, the team? 20:46.120 --> 20:48.960 Ah. Yeah, where is he? 20:48.960 --> 20:52.720 Mint. Mint! 20:59.080 --> 21:02.880 DS Pirie, DC Murray. 21:02.880 --> 21:05.560 There we are, there's your team. 21:05.560 --> 21:07.160 Constant updates, please. 21:11.920 --> 21:14.360 Murray, mints. I get it. 21:14.360 --> 21:17.240 Yeah. The lads gave it to me. I was pushing for The Machine. 21:17.240 --> 21:19.360 Wow. The Machine. 21:19.360 --> 21:21.640 Well, I got the department record on the bleep test, 21:21.640 --> 21:23.720 but you don't get to choose your own, so... 21:23.720 --> 21:26.120 Oh, will I get one? You've already got one. 21:26.120 --> 21:27.560 What is it? 21:27.560 --> 21:32.640 Er... I don't think it was you, actually. 21:32.640 --> 21:36.200 No, go on. It was someone else. 21:37.520 --> 21:40.840 Right... Well, I'd quite like one. 21:40.840 --> 21:44.160 It's not been the greatest time to be called Karen. 21:45.400 --> 21:47.480 Is this the incident room? 21:48.640 --> 21:51.240 Have you listened to the podcast? 21:51.240 --> 21:54.800 Yeah. It's quite... It's quite feminist, eh? 21:54.800 --> 21:56.680 And you don't like that? 21:56.680 --> 21:59.880 No, no, no, absolutely. Do your thing. Fight the fight. 21:59.880 --> 22:01.240 Mmm. 22:01.240 --> 22:04.920 Well, I suppose we should start at the beginning. 22:07.760 --> 22:09.760 Who was at the crime scene? 22:11.360 --> 22:14.080 What was at the crime scene? 22:17.040 --> 22:18.760 And why? 22:18.760 --> 22:20.560 'Call an ambulance, she's dying!' 22:26.120 --> 22:29.080 You three, come over here where I can see you! 22:34.720 --> 22:37.000 Still warm... 22:42.920 --> 22:45.640 I'm a medical student. Can I help? 22:54.600 --> 22:56.640 You say you found her? 22:56.640 --> 23:00.440 On our way home. Why did you leave? 23:00.440 --> 23:02.680 To find a phone. 23:02.680 --> 23:05.480 But you're a medic. Why didn't you stay with her? 23:05.480 --> 23:07.680 Why didn't one of the others go? 23:14.160 --> 23:16.880 SIRENS 23:26.080 --> 23:30.120 I've tried to resuscitate, but I think she's gone. 23:30.120 --> 23:32.280 You got an ID? 23:32.280 --> 23:35.240 Rosie Duff... Sir. 23:37.920 --> 23:40.440 Two of them were at the scene... 23:40.440 --> 23:44.200 one of them ran out right in front of my car. 23:50.720 --> 23:53.240 Thanks, Jimmy. 23:53.240 --> 23:55.640 They said they found her like this. 23:55.640 --> 23:58.200 The one that left said he was running for help. 24:01.280 --> 24:03.360 Detain them, Jimmy. 24:08.120 --> 24:11.160 I've never seen anything like... 24:11.160 --> 24:14.880 Keep it together, Jan, eh? For her. 24:15.920 --> 24:17.720 She was strangled. 24:17.720 --> 24:18.880 Ligatures? 24:18.880 --> 24:21.680 By hand. Is that how she died? 24:21.680 --> 24:25.920 The autopsy concluded that she was throttled until she was unconscious, 24:25.920 --> 24:29.640 but it was the stomach wound that killed her. 24:29.640 --> 24:31.040 She bled to death? 24:31.040 --> 24:33.440 Would have taken 20 minutes, maybe more. 24:33.440 --> 24:35.520 She was just... lying there... 24:35.520 --> 24:39.280 Jesus. Why do that? Cut across the stomach? Such a slow death. 24:39.280 --> 24:41.720 And why leave her in the cathedral? 24:41.720 --> 24:44.120 I suppose a graveyard makes some sense. 24:46.560 --> 24:49.720 If you want to get rid of a body, you bury it, 24:49.720 --> 24:51.200 dump it in the sea, burn it, 24:51.200 --> 24:53.520 you don't leave it in the middle of a tourist attraction, 24:53.520 --> 24:57.440 right in the middle of summer. Unless you want someone to find it. 24:57.440 --> 25:00.440 You think that has some significance? A religious aspect? 25:00.440 --> 25:01.920 I don't know yet. 25:03.000 --> 25:04.640 What was the weapon? 25:04.640 --> 25:07.040 They think it was a kitchen knife. They didn't find it? 25:07.040 --> 25:09.040 No. Never. 25:09.040 --> 25:12.200 There was another thing - when they analysed Rosie's clothing, 25:12.200 --> 25:15.560 they found fibres from the interior carpet of a car. 25:15.560 --> 25:18.240 They moved the body. 25:18.240 --> 25:21.240 There's a second crime scene. But we don't know where. 25:23.040 --> 25:26.760 OK. So, she's choked unconscious, 25:26.760 --> 25:29.480 moved by car, laid out in the graveyard 25:29.480 --> 25:31.080 and cut across the stomach... 25:31.080 --> 25:34.320 but there's no sign of a murder weapon when the police arrive. 25:34.320 --> 25:35.640 Or a vehicle. 25:38.560 --> 25:40.640 Can I have your names, please? 25:43.040 --> 25:44.760 Alex Gilbey. 25:44.760 --> 25:47.360 He's Tom Mackie. And you? 25:47.360 --> 25:50.560 Sigmund Malkiewicz. I just wanna go home. 25:50.560 --> 25:53.160 They need to speak to us, Weird, we're witnesses. 25:53.160 --> 25:55.160 Alex Gilbey, Tom Mackie, Sigmund Malkiewicz, 25:55.160 --> 25:56.800 I'm detaining you under Section 14 25:56.800 --> 25:58.920 of the Criminal Procedure Scotland Act 1995, 25:58.920 --> 26:00.600 for the murder of Rosie Duff. What? 26:00.600 --> 26:03.440 You're not obliged to say anything, but anything you do say may be noted 26:03.440 --> 26:04.560 and used in evidence. 26:04.560 --> 26:06.240 No, you don't understand. We found her. 26:06.240 --> 26:08.360 We need to take you to the station and question you. 26:08.360 --> 26:12.000 You said "detain". You said de... 26:12.000 --> 26:13.520 Wait, what are you doing? 26:13.520 --> 26:16.800 Don't make this harder than it needs to be. 26:19.520 --> 26:21.280 Stop it. 26:21.280 --> 26:23.320 STRUGGLING 26:23.320 --> 26:26.320 Why are you handcuffing us? We didn't do anything! 26:28.120 --> 26:31.000 What are you doing? Stop it! 26:34.520 --> 26:37.640 Listen. We didn't see her tonight. 26:37.640 --> 26:40.080 We don't know her. OK? 26:40.080 --> 26:42.640 Didn't see her. Don't know her. 26:44.280 --> 26:46.720 Could you hear me, Weird? 26:46.720 --> 26:48.560 Are you getting this? 26:48.560 --> 26:50.760 Didn't see her. Don't know her. 26:54.960 --> 26:57.520 'Because they were never charged with the murder, 26:57.520 --> 26:59.720 'legally, I cannot name the three students 26:59.720 --> 27:01.360 'that were at the scene of the crime. 27:01.360 --> 27:03.880 'So, instead, I will be giving them aliases. 27:05.400 --> 27:09.800 'The Historian. Because he was a history student. 27:09.800 --> 27:11.960 'An eccentric, by all accounts. 27:11.960 --> 27:13.640 'A party-boy with a penchant for drugs, 27:13.640 --> 27:16.920 'who was suspended from St Andrews several times... 27:18.680 --> 27:22.640 '..only to become a university lecturer himself later. 27:22.640 --> 27:28.320 'He could be teaching you, or your child, or your sister... 27:28.320 --> 27:31.600 'right now. 27:31.600 --> 27:35.960 'Then there's The Artist, the hardest of the three to research. 27:35.960 --> 27:38.440 'He has no social media presence, 27:38.440 --> 27:40.960 'barely any internet footprint at all. 27:40.960 --> 27:44.880 'Everyone has a right to privacy, but... 27:44.880 --> 27:47.600 'it does prompt the question... 27:47.600 --> 27:49.920 'does he have something to hide? 27:52.280 --> 27:56.880 'And then The Medic. Now a celebrated surgeon, 27:56.880 --> 27:59.720 'people put their lives in his hands every day. 27:59.720 --> 28:03.400 'He's been described as a prolific man. 28:03.400 --> 28:06.880 'An incessant perfectionist. A workaholic. 28:08.600 --> 28:11.000 'He's doing a lot of good in the world. 28:11.000 --> 28:13.080 'And for that, we should be thankful. 28:14.640 --> 28:17.360 'But I have to ask what's driving him. 28:17.360 --> 28:19.600 'Is it guilt?' 28:58.600 --> 29:00.560 I'm sorry. 29:01.800 --> 29:04.000 So... they could only hold the boys for six hours, 29:04.000 --> 29:05.920 so they interviewed them immediately. 29:05.920 --> 29:10.320 Sigmund Malki... Malkiewicz. Is that right? 29:11.520 --> 29:14.120 Polish, is it? It's Ziggy. 29:14.120 --> 29:16.640 Ziggy. Right. 29:16.640 --> 29:19.440 Well, I'm Detective Inspector Maclennan, 29:19.440 --> 29:21.320 this is Detective Sergeant Lawson, 29:21.320 --> 29:26.240 and we're going to have a wee chat about what happened tonight. Hmm? 29:26.240 --> 29:29.640 So, shall we start at the beginning? 29:29.640 --> 29:35.960 We were just walking home from a party and... we found her. 29:35.960 --> 29:38.280 That's not the beginning, though, is it? 29:38.280 --> 29:40.560 We watched the match. 29:40.560 --> 29:43.520 Where? The... 29:43.520 --> 29:46.240 The Lammas pub. 29:47.680 --> 29:51.680 Which is where Rosie worked. Yeah... I guess so. 29:51.680 --> 29:53.640 And did you see her there? 29:55.480 --> 29:58.720 It was really busy. Is that a yes or a no? 30:00.360 --> 30:02.800 Just from afar. 30:02.800 --> 30:04.360 Did your friends? 30:06.960 --> 30:09.040 They might have. Have you ever spoken to her? 30:12.440 --> 30:15.040 I've ordered drinks from her. So, you knew her? 30:19.640 --> 30:21.120 No... 30:23.840 --> 30:25.560 What time did you leave the Lammas? 30:28.000 --> 30:31.440 Er, 10:30... 11:00-ish. 30:31.440 --> 30:33.080 'And where did you go?' 30:34.200 --> 30:37.200 'To a party.' 'Whose party?' 30:37.200 --> 30:41.040 Some, erm... Some fourth years. 30:41.040 --> 30:43.080 And where was this party? 30:43.080 --> 30:45.520 I... 30:46.960 --> 30:50.040 I don't know. What time did you get to the party? 30:51.280 --> 30:53.040 I'm not sure. 30:53.040 --> 30:56.120 How long did you stay at the party? Until we walked home. 30:56.120 --> 30:58.320 Which was at what time? 30:58.320 --> 31:00.760 BUZZING 31:03.600 --> 31:05.920 I'm sorry, what? 31:05.920 --> 31:08.400 Are you on something, Tom? No. 31:08.400 --> 31:11.280 We'll be testing you, so you might want to be honest. 31:16.000 --> 31:18.400 Was this party at Scooniehill Lane? 31:22.400 --> 31:24.160 At this address? 31:29.520 --> 31:31.480 He seems to think it happened at the party. 31:31.480 --> 31:35.880 It is a big house. It's an abandoned manor, old, dilapidated... 31:35.880 --> 31:38.600 So plenty of places to sneak away to... 31:38.600 --> 31:42.480 To have sex, do drugs. Or, you know, kill someone. 31:42.480 --> 31:46.720 I think that, at the pub, you invited her to the party. 31:46.720 --> 31:48.360 You wrote the address down here for her. 31:48.360 --> 31:51.240 She turned up, and something went very, very wrong. 31:51.240 --> 31:53.680 No! She never came. So you did invite her? 31:53.680 --> 31:54.800 But she didn't turn up. 31:54.800 --> 31:56.840 That doesn't feel very likely, Ziggy. 31:56.840 --> 31:59.040 I mean, you invited this girl to a party, 31:59.040 --> 32:01.520 and then we find your friends with her body, 32:01.520 --> 32:03.600 and you trying to flee the scene, covered in blood. 32:03.600 --> 32:05.600 No, I was... I was getting help. 32:05.600 --> 32:07.520 And then you hide evidence. 32:07.520 --> 32:10.240 I didn't... It... 32:10.240 --> 32:12.840 It fell out of her pocket when I was helping her, 32:12.840 --> 32:15.200 I didn't realise I still had it on me. 32:15.200 --> 32:18.160 So you dropped it and obscured it. Because I thought it would look bad! 32:18.160 --> 32:19.440 This looks very bad, Ziggy. 32:19.440 --> 32:23.920 And your story is, you invite her to the party, she doesn't turn up, 32:23.920 --> 32:28.520 and you just happen to stumble across her on the way home. 32:28.520 --> 32:31.760 Accept the cathedral isn't on your way home, Ziggy, is it? 32:31.760 --> 32:34.520 It adds a good ten minutes to your journey. 32:34.520 --> 32:38.640 Sometimes we just walk that way! I don't know... 32:38.640 --> 32:40.200 You do know, Ziggy. 32:40.200 --> 32:44.240 You took her there. Either dead or alive, you took her there. 32:44.240 --> 32:45.880 No! Something happened at that party. 32:45.880 --> 32:47.440 Someone else did this. 32:47.440 --> 32:49.000 Were you sleeping with her? No! 32:49.000 --> 32:50.640 Did you want to? No. 32:50.640 --> 32:52.720 Maybe she resisted? And you didn't like that. No! 32:52.720 --> 32:54.520 Maybe it was one of your friends. No. 32:54.520 --> 32:56.960 Maybe they did this, and you helped cover it up. No! 32:56.960 --> 32:59.920 Why did you kill her, Ziggy? Why did you strangle her? 32:59.920 --> 33:01.520 I didn't. One of you did. No! 33:01.520 --> 33:04.320 Or did you rape her? Didn't want her to tell anyone? 33:04.320 --> 33:06.880 No! Maybe you argued, huh? 33:06.880 --> 33:09.520 Your hands went up to her neck... No, I swear! 33:09.520 --> 33:11.600 What did she do to make you so mad, Ziggy? 33:11.600 --> 33:13.720 Nothing! She must have wound you up somehow. 33:13.720 --> 33:15.120 No! 33:18.840 --> 33:22.480 I didn't know her, I didn't see her. 33:24.480 --> 33:26.480 I didn't kill her. 33:28.360 --> 33:32.280 He's missing two things - murder weapon and a second crime scene. 33:32.280 --> 33:35.320 Is there any witness accounts that place Rosie at the party? 33:35.320 --> 33:38.200 They interviewed everyone and nobody saw her. 33:38.200 --> 33:40.360 But they must have searched it top to bottom. 33:40.360 --> 33:42.360 Yeah, they did, and they didn't find anything. 33:42.360 --> 33:46.720 Not a single hair, a drop of blood, or any sign of a murder weapon. 33:46.720 --> 33:49.400 Can we go? It's since been demolished. 33:49.400 --> 33:52.000 Brilliant. Right... 33:53.160 --> 33:55.520 So, the last place she was seen was...? 33:55.520 --> 33:59.720 CCTV on the high street at midnight. 34:05.960 --> 34:08.880 See? She ducks. Doesn't want to be seen. 34:08.880 --> 34:12.640 Iona, her friend, said that she left the pub to meet someone. 34:12.640 --> 34:14.080 One of these students? 34:14.080 --> 34:16.720 Rosie didn't tell her. She didn't tell anyone. 34:16.720 --> 34:18.440 Why? 34:18.440 --> 34:21.560 Probably her brothers. Colin and Brian Duff. 34:21.560 --> 34:24.600 Both extremely protective. And they were there that night? 34:24.600 --> 34:29.280 Mm. Both tough bastards - criminal records, drunk driving, assault. 34:30.680 --> 34:32.400 Did she have sex? 34:32.400 --> 34:36.160 There's signs in the postmortem. But no semen. 34:36.160 --> 34:39.920 So, condom, or didn't finish. Or she could have been interrupted. 34:41.120 --> 34:44.200 Signs of assault? Rape? Nothing definitive. 34:44.200 --> 34:46.680 It could have just been rough sex. 34:49.520 --> 34:51.240 But, look, this is interesting. 34:51.240 --> 34:53.000 She was cut right across the abdomen. 34:53.000 --> 34:55.760 No, look below. She has a caesarean scar. Across her lower stomach. 34:55.760 --> 34:58.040 It's barely mentioned in the reports. 34:58.040 --> 34:59.440 Rosie had a baby? 34:59.440 --> 35:03.080 But there's no mention of when it happened, what happened to it, 35:03.080 --> 35:04.520 or who the father was. 35:04.520 --> 35:07.000 Surely an ex would be the first place you'd look. 35:07.000 --> 35:09.720 Why didn't they investigate it? I don't know. 35:09.720 --> 35:12.520 But maybe the brothers can shine a light. 35:12.520 --> 35:16.280 So, get across the forensics tonight. 35:17.640 --> 35:19.600 Tonight? 35:19.600 --> 35:22.640 Yeah. Well, we'll go and see the Duffs tomorrow. 35:23.880 --> 35:25.880 Right. OK. 35:25.880 --> 35:27.680 You got somewhere to be? 35:27.680 --> 35:30.160 Just a HIIT class. 35:31.360 --> 35:34.320 Right. Well, I could, er... I could put one box on one side of the room 35:34.320 --> 35:36.920 and on the other. And you could run between them, if you like? 35:36.920 --> 35:39.440 And try and beat your time? I can play some bleeps, if you like? 35:39.440 --> 35:42.080 OK, OK. Yeah, cos you said you were really good at the bleep test. 35:42.080 --> 35:44.160 Yeah, I'll do my homework. 35:44.160 --> 35:47.400 Was one of the first things that you said to me, actually. 36:12.080 --> 36:14.600 Hey. Hey. 36:14.600 --> 36:17.160 How's it going? 36:17.160 --> 36:19.200 All right. 36:20.680 --> 36:23.040 You not going to text me back, then? 36:24.840 --> 36:29.640 I'm sorry, KP. I'm really sorry. 36:29.640 --> 36:33.000 I keep writing things, then deleting them. 36:33.000 --> 36:35.240 I've been trying to find the right words. 36:35.240 --> 36:39.000 Well, heh... Anything would've been better than nothing. 36:40.000 --> 36:41.520 I know. 36:45.000 --> 36:49.200 We've known each other too long to be falling out over a job. 36:51.880 --> 36:55.080 I-I-I get it now. It should be you on this job. 36:55.080 --> 36:57.920 It's right that it's you. What do you mean? 36:57.920 --> 37:02.400 I-I spoke to Lees about it and he explained everything. 37:02.400 --> 37:04.400 Explained what? 37:04.400 --> 37:08.320 Just what, you know, with the... the podcast. 37:08.320 --> 37:11.360 All the accusations she's making out against the police 37:11.360 --> 37:13.800 about gender violence and, you know, 37:13.800 --> 37:17.240 it's appropriate that they got... Sorry. Wait.... 37:19.440 --> 37:22.840 Are you saying they put me on this because I'm a woman? 37:24.360 --> 37:26.120 Not just that. 37:26.120 --> 37:28.280 And that you've all been talking about it, 37:28.280 --> 37:31.520 saying that a female has to be on this because it'll look better? 37:31.520 --> 37:33.880 It's not a bad thing, Karen. 37:35.280 --> 37:37.960 There's a bunch of mediocre white men in the building 37:37.960 --> 37:39.880 that get promoted all the time, 37:39.880 --> 37:42.440 who cares why we move up, as long as we're moving up? 37:42.440 --> 37:45.000 I care, Phil. Because I don't want to walk around this office 37:45.000 --> 37:47.200 with men thinking that I'm a fraud with a pair of tits. 37:47.200 --> 37:49.720 No-one thinks that, Karen! 37:49.720 --> 37:52.840 Jesus! Everyone knows you're a good detective. 37:52.840 --> 37:56.000 And a walking, talking PR win for the service. 37:57.240 --> 38:00.200 I'm not the enemy here, Karen. No... 38:00.200 --> 38:02.720 but you still agree with them. 38:15.520 --> 38:18.560 What the files won't tell you, but Facebook will, 38:18.560 --> 38:22.360 is that PC Janice Hogg married Colin Duff in 2001. 38:22.360 --> 38:25.120 PC Hogg, as in, from this investigation? 38:25.120 --> 38:28.600 The one that found Rosie. And Rosie's brother? 38:28.600 --> 38:31.720 Small towns are small towns. 38:31.720 --> 38:34.200 And murder cases are very sexy. 38:35.720 --> 38:39.440 They moved into the old Duff family home after Rosie's dad died. 38:48.880 --> 38:51.480 Hello. Janice. 38:52.600 --> 38:54.240 Oh, no... 38:54.240 --> 38:56.640 What have my boys done now? 38:56.640 --> 39:00.480 It's, er... It isn't about your boys, Archie. 39:02.240 --> 39:04.240 May we come in? 39:05.640 --> 39:08.880 Aye. Aye, of course. Come in. 39:16.400 --> 39:19.200 Tea or coffee? No, thank you. 39:29.920 --> 39:33.960 They're taking it seriously, then. Giving it to some kids. 39:36.160 --> 39:39.680 We're taking it very seriously, Mr Duff. 39:40.840 --> 39:43.640 I'm DS Karen Pirie, this is DC Murray. 39:46.920 --> 39:48.680 I'm sorry, Archie. 39:48.680 --> 39:51.200 Thinking about Eileen. 39:51.200 --> 39:53.280 I've let her down. 39:54.960 --> 39:57.240 I lost our baby. 39:58.720 --> 40:00.840 I let this happen to our poor baby. 40:00.840 --> 40:02.800 It's not your fault, Archie. 40:04.280 --> 40:07.800 It's not. She'd know that. 40:09.040 --> 40:11.680 We've detained three people for questioning. 40:11.680 --> 40:13.000 Who?! 40:13.000 --> 40:15.280 I can't tell you any more than that at this stage. 40:15.280 --> 40:19.000 You have to. Who?! 40:20.840 --> 40:23.480 I promise, I will keep you updated, as and when... 40:23.480 --> 40:25.440 Update us now! 40:25.440 --> 40:27.400 If you don't, we'll find out somehow. 40:27.400 --> 40:29.120 Colin! 40:32.800 --> 40:35.720 Just let Barney do his job. 40:39.440 --> 40:42.000 Colin, we're going to want to talk to you and Brian 40:42.000 --> 40:43.760 about where you were last night. 40:45.320 --> 40:46.880 What do you mean? 40:46.880 --> 40:50.000 We'd just like your recollections from the night. 40:51.240 --> 40:53.800 You're going to make us go through all this again. 40:53.800 --> 40:56.440 I'm sorry. I wish I didn't have to. 41:02.480 --> 41:05.240 Started in the pub. Both of us. 41:05.240 --> 41:07.760 Rosie was behind the bar. 41:07.760 --> 41:13.240 She left at some point and... and we never noticed. 41:15.760 --> 41:18.760 Brian went off with some girl... 41:20.440 --> 41:23.040 ...said he'd come back and get us after he was done. 41:25.680 --> 41:28.760 When the pub emptied out, that's when I noticed she wasn't there. 41:30.880 --> 41:34.200 I asked Iona where she'd gone, she said she didn't know. 41:35.760 --> 41:37.960 Maybe she'd popped out. 41:39.440 --> 41:41.800 What time was this? 41:41.800 --> 41:43.680 Half two. 41:46.160 --> 41:48.960 Iona gave us the keys and said I could wait in the pub 41:48.960 --> 41:51.160 until Brian or Rosie turned up. 41:54.640 --> 41:56.560 Only they never did. 41:57.800 --> 42:00.720 I fell asleep in this girl's bed. 42:00.720 --> 42:03.040 I wish I hadnae. 42:03.040 --> 42:05.320 Every day, I wish I hadnae. 42:08.800 --> 42:11.120 Wish I'd never gone wi' her. 42:12.200 --> 42:13.840 How long were you in her house? 42:13.840 --> 42:17.000 Till eight in the morning. 42:18.200 --> 42:20.040 Came back to my dad crying. 42:21.160 --> 42:23.080 Never seen him cry before. 42:23.080 --> 42:25.280 SOBBING 42:29.840 --> 42:35.000 Iona said that Rosie went to meet someone. But didn't know who. 42:37.240 --> 42:39.400 We know who it was. 42:39.400 --> 42:42.080 You do? Of course we do. 42:42.080 --> 42:45.800 I saw him talking to her that night. Little dark-haired one. Pathetic. 42:45.800 --> 42:47.200 Ziggy Malkiewicz. 42:47.200 --> 42:49.200 He was inviting her to the party. 42:50.960 --> 42:54.880 But... why am I explaining this to you?! 42:54.880 --> 42:57.240 You know all this, it's in the files. 42:57.240 --> 42:59.320 It's been there for 25 years. 42:59.320 --> 43:01.920 We are going to talk to Dr Malkiewicz as soon as we can. 43:07.720 --> 43:11.040 Er, Mr Duff, we noticed from the forensic reports 43:11.040 --> 43:13.760 that Rosie had a caesarean scar on her stomach. 43:13.760 --> 43:16.840 Did Rosie have a child? I don't see how this is relevant. 43:16.840 --> 43:19.200 There just wasn't much information on the reports. 43:19.200 --> 43:21.800 All right, that's enough, time to go. 43:21.800 --> 43:23.920 Colin... They don't know what they're doing. 43:23.920 --> 43:27.560 I'm sorry, Mr Duff... Go on, get out. Get out of my house! 43:30.120 --> 43:32.280 We're sorry to have taken up so much of your time. 43:38.400 --> 43:42.440 Call the pathologist, Jan. Tell them to expedite the post-mortem. 43:42.440 --> 43:44.920 We've gotta let those boys go in a few hours. 43:44.920 --> 43:46.880 We need every bit of help we can get. 43:53.320 --> 43:54.960 DS Pirie? 43:54.960 --> 43:56.640 Sorry, er... 43:57.600 --> 44:01.600 The, er... The baby didn't survive. A day or two, maybe. 44:03.040 --> 44:05.120 Oh. I'm sorry. 44:06.560 --> 44:09.480 The father was a local boy, John Stobie, 44:09.480 --> 44:12.000 just some kid from her class at school. 44:13.320 --> 44:15.520 Did you ever take a look into him? 44:16.800 --> 44:21.040 Yeah. He was at university somewhere, I think. 44:21.040 --> 44:22.720 He had nothing to do with it. 44:22.720 --> 44:23.920 It's a dead end. 44:26.000 --> 44:28.960 Thanks, Janice. I appreciate it. 44:53.360 --> 44:56.840 Well, I didn't quite soil myself, but I was close. 44:56.840 --> 44:59.120 Call Register House, will you? 44:59.120 --> 45:01.840 See if you can get a birth certificate for Rosie's baby, 45:01.840 --> 45:04.440 and a death certificate, too. 45:04.440 --> 45:06.240 We need to know what happened. 45:07.520 --> 45:10.440 And see if you can track down a John Stobie. 45:14.360 --> 45:15.680 I mean now. 45:16.760 --> 45:19.600 Yeah, sorry. Just waiting for my heart rate to come down. 45:27.080 --> 45:28.440 Dr Malkiewicz. 45:29.600 --> 45:31.120 DS Karen Pirie. 45:33.360 --> 45:35.040 Would you like a drink, Karen? 45:36.080 --> 45:38.880 Surgery always makes me thirsty. 45:39.960 --> 45:41.280 Sure. 45:43.000 --> 45:47.680 I'm sorry, just, you're in there six, eight hours, 45:47.680 --> 45:49.160 and the focus gets you through, 45:49.160 --> 45:51.760 but then you come out and you realise you haven't eaten anything 45:51.760 --> 45:53.000 since last night 45:53.000 --> 45:55.800 and you can't remember the last time you had a glass of water. 45:56.840 --> 46:01.520 Well, I'd be a bit worried if my surgeon was that dehydrated. 46:01.520 --> 46:05.040 Well, if I passed out, they'd just stick an IV straight in to me. 46:06.520 --> 46:08.120 It's a joke. 46:08.120 --> 46:10.720 I know what I'm doing in there. 46:10.720 --> 46:12.440 Ha-ha. 46:13.640 --> 46:16.200 You haven't returned any of my calls. 46:16.200 --> 46:18.960 Well, I don't really have to talk to you. This is just a courtesy. 46:18.960 --> 46:22.120 Well, then, I will offer you a courtesy right back. 46:22.120 --> 46:25.320 I've been listening to your initial interview from 1996 46:25.320 --> 46:27.200 and wanted to give you the opportunity 46:27.200 --> 46:29.400 to add anything you may have missed out. 46:29.400 --> 46:31.480 Missed out? 46:31.480 --> 46:35.360 Well, it's been a long time. Perspective can change things. 46:35.360 --> 46:36.880 No, nothing's changed. 46:36.880 --> 46:38.800 You stand by your testimony? 46:38.800 --> 46:42.160 You saw Rosie in the pub, and then you found her at the cathedral? 46:42.160 --> 46:43.800 That's right. 46:45.040 --> 46:46.720 I've been speaking to the Duff brothers. 46:46.720 --> 46:49.440 Well, you can immediately discount anything they have to say. 46:49.440 --> 46:50.560 That's very convenient. 46:50.560 --> 46:52.920 They seem pretty sure you were involved with their sister. 46:52.920 --> 46:56.840 They're a pair of vicious thugs. Rosie was terrified of them. 46:56.840 --> 46:59.640 They controlled her life. And how do you know that? 46:59.640 --> 47:01.080 Well, everyone knew that. 47:02.120 --> 47:03.760 Right. 47:05.440 --> 47:07.320 But you did know her, didn't you? 47:07.320 --> 47:08.840 You were seeing her, weren't you? 47:08.840 --> 47:10.080 I'm gay, Detective. 47:11.320 --> 47:12.840 Married now. 47:12.840 --> 47:14.560 Happily. To a man. 47:16.680 --> 47:19.080 Have you ever had relationships with women? 47:20.320 --> 47:22.840 Well, there was a time when I was working myself out. 47:22.840 --> 47:24.160 Rosie involved in that? 47:24.160 --> 47:26.000 No. 47:27.880 --> 47:30.680 You know, I don't think I want to talk to you any more. 47:32.560 --> 47:33.880 Not without a lawyer. 47:44.120 --> 47:45.960 RADIO CHATTER 47:48.320 --> 47:49.960 SIREN 48:38.240 --> 48:41.680 SIRENS 48:48.720 --> 48:51.680 Right. Nothing incriminating in the students' house 48:51.680 --> 48:52.880 or the party house. 48:52.880 --> 48:55.000 And all three boys are maintaining their innocence. 48:55.000 --> 48:57.040 You don't think we have enough to charge? 48:57.040 --> 48:58.880 No, not yet. 48:58.880 --> 49:02.080 Release them, but we'll keep eyes on them. 49:02.080 --> 49:03.600 Sir, how can we release them? 49:03.600 --> 49:05.680 They are still under investigation, Janice. 49:07.600 --> 49:09.160 We've got to let them go. 49:11.720 --> 49:13.480 DOOR SLAMS 49:15.360 --> 49:17.040 DOOR OPENS 49:23.080 --> 49:24.200 DOOR OPENS 49:57.840 --> 50:01.280 Register House just sent over a birth certificate for Rosie's baby. 50:01.280 --> 50:03.440 Does it have a father on there? Printing now. 50:07.760 --> 50:12.200 Orla Rose Duff, born August 21st '93... 50:13.680 --> 50:14.880 No dad. 50:20.680 --> 50:22.520 Zoom in to that part. 50:31.640 --> 50:33.360 Adopted? 50:33.360 --> 50:37.120 How can she be adopted if she only lived a day or two? 50:38.640 --> 50:40.160 Maybe she didn't die... 50:42.120 --> 50:44.080 ...but that means Rosie lied to everyone. 50:45.400 --> 50:46.720 Why? 50:56.240 --> 50:57.760 DS Karen Pirie. 50:57.760 --> 50:59.360 Hi. John Stobie. 51:00.560 --> 51:01.720 Thank you. 51:01.720 --> 51:07.680 I mean, I knew her. We were friends when we were wee. 51:07.680 --> 51:09.440 You never had a relationship with her? 51:09.440 --> 51:11.040 Not even close. 51:11.040 --> 51:14.920 We used to walk home from school together sometimes, 51:14.920 --> 51:17.080 that was the extent of it. 51:17.080 --> 51:18.880 Did you ever sleep with her? 51:18.880 --> 51:20.200 Never. 51:23.360 --> 51:25.000 Is this... 51:25.000 --> 51:26.680 from her brothers? 51:34.080 --> 51:40.400 I don't really know where it came from, or why. 51:42.120 --> 51:47.000 I just remember one day, they were waiting outside school for me. 51:47.000 --> 51:49.560 They followed me halfway home, 51:49.560 --> 51:52.560 then, when there was no-one around... 51:54.240 --> 51:55.800 ...they jumped me. 51:56.960 --> 51:58.440 Battered me. 51:58.440 --> 52:00.200 Black and blue. 52:02.080 --> 52:03.640 Did they say why? 52:03.640 --> 52:07.120 They said I'd slept with Rosie. 52:07.120 --> 52:09.680 Got her pregnant. 52:09.680 --> 52:13.040 Wouldn't believe me when I said it wasn't true. 52:13.040 --> 52:14.440 Did you talk to Rosie about it? 52:15.760 --> 52:18.360 I stayed far away from her after that. 52:20.200 --> 52:21.680 They broke my nose. 52:23.480 --> 52:25.200 Collarbone. 52:26.400 --> 52:28.000 Couple of ribs. 52:30.600 --> 52:32.400 I'm so sorry. 52:32.400 --> 52:34.160 It's a long time ago now. 52:36.880 --> 52:38.840 I have always wondered, though, 52:38.840 --> 52:40.920 why me? 52:42.720 --> 52:45.360 Why did she tell them it was me? 52:47.320 --> 52:51.000 It sounds as though she was protecting someone else. 52:59.400 --> 53:01.560 Please! 53:01.560 --> 53:03.240 HELP! 53:08.640 --> 53:10.440 PLEASE! 53:10.440 --> 53:13.000 PANTING 53:15.240 --> 53:16.560 Hm. 53:17.800 --> 53:19.160 You OK? 53:19.160 --> 53:21.680 Yeah... 53:21.680 --> 53:22.960 Yeah. 53:24.520 --> 53:27.040 What was it? 53:27.040 --> 53:29.720 Did you dream I cheated on you with Dua Lipa again? 53:31.080 --> 53:32.360 No. 53:35.080 --> 53:37.440 That would be so much worse. 53:38.800 --> 53:40.680 Everything's gonna be OK. 53:43.680 --> 53:45.360 Say it again. 53:46.400 --> 53:49.480 Everything is going to be OK. 54:01.400 --> 54:02.920 Sir? 54:02.920 --> 54:04.720 Sir. 54:06.600 --> 54:08.360 Thanks for taking the time. 54:08.360 --> 54:11.000 Not at all, I've been looking forward to meeting you, Karen. 54:13.960 --> 54:16.560 DCS Lawson was there the first time around, 54:16.560 --> 54:19.280 so will be an invaluable source for you. 54:19.280 --> 54:20.840 Thank you, sir. 54:22.200 --> 54:25.320 Rosie's baby... Getting straight into it, I see. 54:25.320 --> 54:27.840 There's barely any mention of it in the files. 54:27.840 --> 54:30.520 There's a brief reference to it in the post-mortem, 54:30.520 --> 54:32.360 but no further details. Why? 54:32.360 --> 54:37.280 Well, DI MacLennan was very good friends with Rosie's father, Archie. 54:37.280 --> 54:40.040 He wanted it kept out of the reports as much as possible. 54:41.200 --> 54:44.840 She was 15 when she got pregnant. He didn't want people finding out, 54:44.840 --> 54:46.320 judging her, for being so young. 54:47.800 --> 54:49.520 Right. 54:49.520 --> 54:51.840 Why wouldn't you look into who the father was? 54:51.840 --> 54:53.200 The family answered that for us. 54:53.200 --> 54:54.400 John Stobie? 54:54.400 --> 54:56.880 Yeah. A local boy, as far as I remember. 54:58.640 --> 55:01.880 Rosie told her family the baby died. 55:01.880 --> 55:03.200 It didn't. 55:04.200 --> 55:06.960 There's no death certificate, we've checked. 55:11.880 --> 55:13.640 It was adopted. 55:13.640 --> 55:15.760 And that local boy? I've spoken to him. 55:15.760 --> 55:18.560 He can't be the father because he never slept with her. 55:18.560 --> 55:21.200 How do you know? Have you looked into him as a suspect? 55:21.200 --> 55:23.200 He's got a solid alibi for the night she died. 55:23.200 --> 55:24.760 He was away at Leeds, at university. 55:24.760 --> 55:26.400 There's no way he could have killed her. 55:26.400 --> 55:27.920 And the important thing here is... 55:27.920 --> 55:29.560 Her child is still alive. 55:29.560 --> 55:31.240 And we don't know who the father was. 55:31.240 --> 55:32.960 No. I don't think that's important - 55:32.960 --> 55:35.640 a relationship from three years previous? How's it connected? 55:35.640 --> 55:38.560 The lies. Why would she hide it? 55:38.560 --> 55:41.600 She was 15, that's why. Why would you cover up who the father was? 55:41.600 --> 55:44.000 Maybe he was 17, and knew the family would press charges. 55:44.000 --> 55:45.760 We should be looking into that! 55:45.760 --> 55:48.720 I'd like to go to Child Services... Hang on. 55:48.720 --> 55:50.920 I can trace the child... These things are sensitive. 55:50.920 --> 55:52.040 Ask her to take a DNA test. 55:52.040 --> 55:54.840 The Duff family would disagree. ...I could probably find the father. 55:54.840 --> 55:56.680 PIRIE! 55:58.640 --> 56:02.800 Tracing adopted children should always, always be a last resort. 56:02.800 --> 56:06.360 We can't just go marching into people's lives causing chaos! 56:06.360 --> 56:08.520 These things, they have to be properly considered. 56:08.520 --> 56:10.680 This person could be living a perfectly happy life, 56:10.680 --> 56:13.400 completely unaware that their birth mother was murdered, 56:13.400 --> 56:15.840 and that that murder remains unsolved. But, Sir... 56:15.840 --> 56:16.880 No. 56:19.400 --> 56:22.800 No. We are already under the microscope. 56:22.800 --> 56:25.280 Anything we do, any slip-up, it'll be podcasted 56:25.280 --> 56:27.520 and bloody message-forumed all over the internet... 56:27.520 --> 56:29.800 Oh, sir, that's... DI Lees is right, Karen. 56:29.800 --> 56:31.880 We have to tread gently. 56:32.920 --> 56:35.000 It's good to know that we have that option, 56:35.000 --> 56:36.920 should all other avenues be exhausted. 56:39.360 --> 56:41.240 Have you considered the possibility 56:41.240 --> 56:44.160 that one of the students could have been the father? 56:44.160 --> 56:45.680 They weren't in St Andrews yet. 56:45.680 --> 56:49.360 No. But two of them lived in Kirkcaldy. Only half an hour away. 56:49.360 --> 56:51.480 And they were older than her. 56:51.480 --> 56:55.080 As Lees says, that would give her a good reason to hide it. 56:57.600 --> 56:59.080 I'll look into it, Sir. 57:00.840 --> 57:01.960 Do. 57:03.720 --> 57:05.240 Good work, Sergeant. 57:05.240 --> 57:08.600 We could have done with some of that thinking first time around. 57:16.320 --> 57:17.840 All right, quick as you can. 57:18.960 --> 57:21.120 I've been hassling forensics for the report. 57:21.120 --> 57:22.200 Any luck? 57:22.200 --> 57:24.920 Not yet, but they've given us a heads-up. They found a certain type 57:24.920 --> 57:26.520 of fibre all over Rosie's clothes. 57:26.520 --> 57:27.680 It needs further tests, 57:27.680 --> 57:30.040 but they reckon they're from carpeting found in a car. 57:30.040 --> 57:31.400 What, over everything? 57:34.000 --> 57:38.200 She was lying on the carpet, probably in the boot. 57:38.200 --> 57:40.400 She was moved. 57:41.640 --> 57:44.040 Did the students have any access to a vehicle? 57:44.040 --> 57:45.560 I can find out. 57:48.480 --> 57:49.880 We need to move the car. 57:51.280 --> 57:54.240 How are we going to do that? They're gonna be watching us! 57:54.240 --> 57:55.480 We don't know that. 57:55.480 --> 57:57.240 That's what they do - they monitor you. 57:57.240 --> 57:59.160 It's not worth the risk, Zig. We just got out. 57:59.160 --> 58:01.760 But think about how bad it'll be if they find it. 58:10.800 --> 58:12.880 Where did you leave it, Weird? 58:14.080 --> 58:15.880 I'm not sure. 58:15.880 --> 58:17.520 How can you not be sure? 58:17.520 --> 58:20.240 I was off my face, Ziggy! You shouldn't have been driving. 58:20.240 --> 58:21.600 Jeez, arrest me! 58:25.880 --> 58:27.520 Right, the girl - 58:27.520 --> 58:29.440 the one you're driving home - 58:29.440 --> 58:30.880 where does she live? 58:30.880 --> 58:33.440 Well, call her! I can't! They'll be listening in on the phone. 58:33.440 --> 58:35.000 Don't be stupid! 58:35.000 --> 58:37.160 And I don't have her number. Where are the keys? 58:37.160 --> 58:38.400 Think I left them in there. 58:38.400 --> 58:40.240 Well, that's one smart thing that you did. 58:49.280 --> 58:51.000 I just wanna go home. 58:52.280 --> 58:54.200 They said that we could go back to Kirkcaldy. 58:56.200 --> 58:59.840 You can go to Weird's, and I'll stay here tonight. 58:59.840 --> 59:01.320 And do what? 59:01.320 --> 59:04.520 I'll go out after dark to find the car. And I'll move it. 59:04.520 --> 59:06.240 I'll take it back. 59:11.720 --> 59:13.240 'Did you hear about that case' 59:13.240 --> 59:15.240 where someone threw a brick off an overpass 59:15.240 --> 59:17.880 and it smashed through the windscreen and killed the driver? 59:17.880 --> 59:19.240 No. What? 59:19.240 --> 59:21.040 They found traces of DNA on the brick 59:21.040 --> 59:23.400 and then they traced him through an ancestry website. 59:23.400 --> 59:25.360 Oh. And didn't you... 59:25.360 --> 59:26.960 No. ..go on some dates... No. 59:26.960 --> 59:29.120 ...with that guy from that site? What was his name? 59:29.120 --> 59:31.680 Rob, and I am not going back there. Hear me out. 59:31.680 --> 59:34.720 Rosie lied about who the father of her baby was. 59:34.720 --> 59:37.120 That means there's a story there. 59:37.120 --> 59:38.680 Something is up. 59:38.680 --> 59:40.920 But Lees and Lawson won't let me go to Child Services 59:40.920 --> 59:42.520 to find out where she is. 59:42.520 --> 59:44.880 So you want to go to WhatsMyHeritage.com? 59:44.880 --> 59:46.120 That's what it's called! 59:47.400 --> 59:50.920 I know it sounds mad, but loads of people use them now, 59:50.920 --> 59:53.120 and they have these huge DNA banks 59:53.120 --> 59:55.600 that might be bigger than the police's. 59:55.600 --> 59:56.880 I don't see how this connects. 59:56.880 --> 59:59.880 Say you're adopted, like Rosie's child was, 59:59.880 --> 1:00:02.360 you'd probably be quite interested in finding out 1:00:02.360 --> 1:00:04.200 who your long lost family were. 1:00:04.200 --> 1:00:07.880 You'd sign up to a site like that and send in your DNA. 1:00:07.880 --> 1:00:10.800 So you wanna send Rosie's DNA in? 1:00:10.800 --> 1:00:13.000 Yeah. See if there's any matches. 1:00:13.000 --> 1:00:16.520 If I can find the kid's, then I can find the father, Rosie's ex, 1:00:16.520 --> 1:00:19.000 and I can find out what Rosie was hiding. 1:00:19.000 --> 1:00:20.400 The only problem is, 1:00:20.400 --> 1:00:23.160 they don't open up their databases to just anyone. 1:00:24.240 --> 1:00:25.320 No. 1:00:25.320 --> 1:00:28.320 Oh, come on, I thought you liked Rob? I did! 1:00:28.320 --> 1:00:30.160 If anything, too much. 1:00:30.160 --> 1:00:33.680 It was... intense. 1:00:33.680 --> 1:00:35.040 Doesn't sound bad. 1:00:35.040 --> 1:00:38.840 He sexted me all the time, non-stop. 1:00:38.840 --> 1:00:41.320 I honestly ran out of things to say. 1:00:41.320 --> 1:00:42.800 I ran out of... 1:00:44.760 --> 1:00:47.920 ...camera angles. It was exhausting - it had to end. 1:00:47.920 --> 1:00:50.040 Come on, take one for the team! 1:00:50.040 --> 1:00:53.200 It's poking a bear, Karen. A horny bear. 1:00:53.200 --> 1:00:55.240 OK. 1:00:55.240 --> 1:00:56.800 Will you just think about it? 1:00:56.800 --> 1:01:00.760 Fine. I mean, I do feel for you with this podcast lady. 1:01:00.760 --> 1:01:02.080 What do you mean? 1:01:02.080 --> 1:01:04.760 On Twitter, she's always riling everyone up. Look at this. 1:01:04.760 --> 1:01:09.280 "Fife Police - victim-shaming" and there's the video. 1:01:09.280 --> 1:01:10.360 What video? 1:01:11.440 --> 1:01:15.840 In light of these events, I would like to ask the women, 1:01:15.840 --> 1:01:18.200 particularly the young women of St Andrews 1:01:18.200 --> 1:01:22.320 and the surrounding areas, to be particularly vigilant. 1:01:22.320 --> 1:01:26.640 I would also advise against venturing outdoors alone after dark. 1:01:26.640 --> 1:01:28.760 And you should also make sure that someone knows 1:01:28.760 --> 1:01:30.200 where you are at all times. 1:01:30.200 --> 1:01:34.760 If at any point you feel threatened or see anything out of the ordinary, 1:01:34.760 --> 1:01:37.520 please contact the police straight away. 1:01:37.520 --> 1:01:39.160 Any further questions? 1:01:39.160 --> 1:01:42.320 Your warning implies that it's up to the women of St Andrews 1:01:42.320 --> 1:01:43.800 to keep themselves safe. 1:01:44.960 --> 1:01:47.800 I just want to take any measures we can, 1:01:47.800 --> 1:01:50.560 combined with excellent policing, to keep our daughters, 1:01:50.560 --> 1:01:55.920 granddaughters, sisters, out of harm's way. 1:01:55.920 --> 1:01:58.280 You detained three people and have since released them. 1:01:58.280 --> 1:02:00.080 Is that not putting women in more danger? 1:02:00.080 --> 1:02:01.880 As is law in Scotland, 1:02:01.880 --> 1:02:04.560 an arrest cannot be made without sufficient evidence. 1:02:04.560 --> 1:02:06.920 Enquiries are ongoing. Can you reveal their names? 1:02:06.920 --> 1:02:09.080 Not until they are charged, if they are charged. 1:02:09.080 --> 1:02:11.760 So you'll protect them, but not the women of St Andrews? 1:02:11.760 --> 1:02:13.760 'We are doing everything in our power 1:02:13.760 --> 1:02:15.760 'to bring Rosie's killer to justice. 1:02:15.760 --> 1:02:18.720 'If anyone out there knows anything, anything at all, 1:02:18.720 --> 1:02:21.480 'please do not hesitate to get in touch.' 1:02:59.800 --> 1:03:02.440 Apparently, all the rooms have Jacuzzi baths. 1:03:02.440 --> 1:03:04.040 Head in the game, Murray. 1:03:07.160 --> 1:03:08.840 Are you looking for me? 1:03:08.840 --> 1:03:10.120 Bel Richmond? 1:03:10.120 --> 1:03:13.240 Thought so. You don't look like golf tourists. 1:03:13.240 --> 1:03:15.040 DS Pirie. This is DC Murray. 1:03:15.040 --> 1:03:19.000 An expensive place to stay for a couple of weeks. 1:03:19.000 --> 1:03:21.600 Yeah, I'm lucky. They've been so supportive. 1:03:21.600 --> 1:03:24.240 The hotel? The chain. They sponsor us. 1:03:24.240 --> 1:03:27.960 Oh. Great business opp. A dead girl... 1:03:29.480 --> 1:03:31.520 Oh, this is off the record, by the way. 1:03:31.520 --> 1:03:33.440 No, I won't use any of it on the podcast. 1:03:33.440 --> 1:03:35.160 That's right. 1:03:40.640 --> 1:03:41.920 Thank you. 1:03:41.920 --> 1:03:44.080 Just need to be sure. Yeah. 1:03:45.440 --> 1:03:47.960 I'm delighted you're reopening the case. 1:03:47.960 --> 1:03:52.240 Oh, you are? Oh, you seem sceptical of the police on the podcast. 1:03:52.240 --> 1:03:54.440 I have to ask questions. 1:03:54.440 --> 1:03:56.880 Sometimes, those questions aren't very helpful. 1:03:56.880 --> 1:04:00.440 Well, I think the Duff family want them answered. 1:04:01.640 --> 1:04:04.680 I can't stop you reporting, we both know that. 1:04:04.680 --> 1:04:07.040 And why would you? I think the pressure helps. 1:04:07.040 --> 1:04:09.200 Very sure of your opinions. 1:04:09.200 --> 1:04:11.880 You can't think the original investigation was well run? 1:04:11.880 --> 1:04:14.920 I don't think you know much about the original investigation. 1:04:14.920 --> 1:04:20.040 I know they haven't re-examined the case for a quarter of a century. 1:04:21.680 --> 1:04:25.280 Aren't they supposed to review these things every few years? 1:04:25.280 --> 1:04:27.040 Why didn't they? 1:04:27.040 --> 1:04:28.760 Until... 1:04:28.760 --> 1:04:30.960 I came along. 1:04:32.520 --> 1:04:35.600 If mistakes were made, I am correcting them now. 1:04:35.600 --> 1:04:36.880 Well... 1:04:36.880 --> 1:04:38.880 I'd like to help you. 1:04:39.920 --> 1:04:43.240 I have done a lot of research. 1:04:43.240 --> 1:04:46.640 I've spent weeks on my hands and knees in people's attics, 1:04:46.640 --> 1:04:50.320 going through old boxes of photos, yearbooks, 1:04:50.320 --> 1:04:51.840 tracked down friends of Rosie's... 1:04:51.840 --> 1:04:53.560 Well, we'll take a look at all of that. 1:04:53.560 --> 1:04:55.720 Oh, no, I'm not sure that... 1:04:55.720 --> 1:04:58.720 You wouldn't want to withhold evidence, would you? 1:05:01.000 --> 1:05:02.760 No, of course not. 1:05:13.720 --> 1:05:14.800 Right. 1:05:17.440 --> 1:05:18.840 Great. 1:05:18.840 --> 1:05:20.600 Jesus Christ! 1:05:20.600 --> 1:05:22.680 I need to protect my sources, 1:05:22.680 --> 1:05:24.840 so you won't be able to take any of it away with you. 1:05:24.840 --> 1:05:26.360 I'll have to supervise. 1:05:28.240 --> 1:05:29.840 Yeah, no problem. 1:05:30.880 --> 1:05:32.480 Murray'll stay. 1:05:33.520 --> 1:05:35.640 I... 1:05:35.640 --> 1:05:39.000 Can I just have a minute with you, sarge? 1:05:46.920 --> 1:05:48.080 You can't be serious? 1:05:48.080 --> 1:05:50.360 We need to know what she has so we can be one step ahead. 1:05:50.360 --> 1:05:53.200 What if she's got 18 boxes of flippin' nothing? 1:05:53.200 --> 1:05:56.760 Well, then, you've had a nice day in a hotel room with a charming lady. 1:05:56.760 --> 1:05:58.600 You're not staying? No, I'll kill her. 1:05:58.600 --> 1:06:00.640 Oh, she's gonna grill me all day. 1:06:00.640 --> 1:06:01.920 And you can't say a thing. 1:06:01.920 --> 1:06:03.480 Or you'll kill me. Correct. 1:06:06.000 --> 1:06:10.000 Oh, Murray, don't get in the Jacuzzi bath. 1:06:13.600 --> 1:06:15.600 'The person you've called is not available. 1:06:15.600 --> 1:06:17.680 'Please leave your message after the tone.' 1:06:17.680 --> 1:06:18.720 BEEP 1:06:18.720 --> 1:06:20.880 Hi, Mr Mackie. It's DS Karen Pirie here again. 1:06:20.880 --> 1:06:24.040 I'm just wondering if I can get a moment of your time. 1:06:24.040 --> 1:06:27.040 I wanted to let you know we're re-examining the Rosie Duff case 1:06:27.040 --> 1:06:30.840 and I'd like to speak to you about your recollections of that. 1:06:39.400 --> 1:06:41.640 HEARTBEAT 1:06:48.280 --> 1:06:50.440 BUZZING 1:06:57.720 --> 1:07:00.120 Sir, would you like to have a look at your baby? 1:07:31.200 --> 1:07:33.400 You look after yourself, OK? 1:07:33.400 --> 1:07:35.280 I'll be back in Kirkcaldy tomorrow. 1:07:38.160 --> 1:07:40.440 Love you, bro. 1:08:17.120 --> 1:08:20.440 'Police have continued to shock the residents of St Andrews 1:08:20.440 --> 1:08:23.120 'following the discovery of the body of a young woman 1:08:23.120 --> 1:08:27.040 'in the cathedral grounds in the early hours of yesterday morning. 1:08:27.040 --> 1:08:31.360 'The woman, identified by the police as Rosie Duff, was discovered...' 1:08:37.440 --> 1:08:39.480 So, why this case, anyway? 1:08:39.480 --> 1:08:42.040 It doesn't sound like you're from round here. 1:08:42.040 --> 1:08:43.880 I went to St Andrews. 1:08:45.040 --> 1:08:47.880 People would always talk about it, you know? 1:08:47.880 --> 1:08:50.160 Someone knew someone who knew Rosie, 1:08:50.160 --> 1:08:52.800 someone's girlfriend was living in the three students' house, 1:08:52.800 --> 1:08:55.000 someone heard a rumour about who really did it... 1:08:55.000 --> 1:08:56.360 Who was that, then? 1:08:59.400 --> 1:09:01.040 Could save me some time. 1:09:01.040 --> 1:09:04.920 Trust me, I went down those roads - didn't lead anywhere. 1:09:06.840 --> 1:09:08.520 So... 1:09:08.520 --> 1:09:11.560 Why podcasting, then? What got you into that? 1:09:11.560 --> 1:09:14.480 Are you asking me questions so I don't ask anything of you? 1:09:15.840 --> 1:09:18.040 Erm... Absolutely. 1:09:18.040 --> 1:09:19.800 Mm. Sneaky. 1:09:19.800 --> 1:09:22.400 Doesn't mean I'm not interested. 1:09:22.400 --> 1:09:24.560 Er... 1:09:26.000 --> 1:09:29.680 It's just a really direct way of telling a story. 1:09:30.800 --> 1:09:33.800 I like that people who maybe wouldn't read the paper 1:09:33.800 --> 1:09:36.200 or a long piece online might tune in. 1:09:36.200 --> 1:09:38.840 I guess that's me, then. I listen to it in the gym. 1:09:38.840 --> 1:09:41.920 As long as you're listening, I don't mind where. 1:09:45.160 --> 1:09:47.440 OK, my turn. 1:09:47.440 --> 1:09:49.720 What sort of physical evidence...? 1:09:49.720 --> 1:09:53.280 No. No. No. No, you're gonna have to try harder than that. 1:09:59.040 --> 1:10:02.800 Mr Gilbey. Hi, just thought I'd try you again. 1:10:02.800 --> 1:10:05.360 It's DS Karen Pirie here. 1:10:05.360 --> 1:10:08.880 I'd really appreciate a chat if possible. 1:10:08.880 --> 1:10:10.520 Er, you can... 1:10:10.520 --> 1:10:14.000 you can find me on this number. Thanks. 1:10:16.360 --> 1:10:18.080 Celebration? 1:10:18.080 --> 1:10:20.560 Sort of, yeah. 1:10:20.560 --> 1:10:23.120 I spoke to Lawson and... 1:10:24.080 --> 1:10:25.920 ...he's moving me up to Murder Squad. 1:10:29.720 --> 1:10:31.200 That's great. 1:10:41.680 --> 1:10:43.760 I'm sorry, KP. 1:10:46.720 --> 1:10:49.080 I'm an arsehole. 1:10:50.320 --> 1:10:51.760 Yeah. 1:10:51.760 --> 1:10:53.480 But I knew that before. 1:10:55.160 --> 1:10:57.560 Yeah, and you used to like it. 1:10:58.680 --> 1:11:00.120 OK, Phil. 1:11:00.120 --> 1:11:03.520 Look, have you got time for a drink, now? 1:11:06.320 --> 1:11:09.640 No. Not really. 1:11:09.640 --> 1:11:13.000 I'm gonna have to drink this all by myself, which... 1:11:13.000 --> 1:11:14.880 is a bit sad. 1:11:16.040 --> 1:11:17.560 Yeah. 1:11:19.440 --> 1:11:21.040 I'll see you around. 1:12:01.880 --> 1:12:03.200 Hey. 1:12:10.320 --> 1:12:12.200 It's starting again. 1:12:12.200 --> 1:12:14.120 The questions from the police. 1:12:16.200 --> 1:12:18.080 The press attention. 1:12:19.360 --> 1:12:21.800 The... looks, 1:12:21.800 --> 1:12:24.880 the whispers - and it's worse this time, 1:12:24.880 --> 1:12:27.360 because there's the internet. 1:12:31.240 --> 1:12:33.960 I think... 1:12:33.960 --> 1:12:37.880 we need to do this differently this time. 1:12:40.360 --> 1:12:42.280 What do you mean by that? 1:12:45.240 --> 1:12:47.880 I think we need to tell them the truth. 1:12:47.880 --> 1:12:49.160 You started this, Ziggy. 1:12:49.160 --> 1:12:52.240 Which is why I'm the one suggesting that we come clean. 1:12:52.240 --> 1:12:53.760 No, not after all this time. 1:12:53.760 --> 1:12:56.680 I can't eat, I can't sleep, 1:12:56.680 --> 1:12:57.960 I keep on running and running, 1:12:57.960 --> 1:13:00.200 thinking it's gonna clear my head. I'm cracking up! 1:13:00.200 --> 1:13:03.080 We're all cracking up, Ziggy. Yes, but my job needs me lucid! 1:13:03.080 --> 1:13:04.400 There won't be work in prison. 1:13:08.000 --> 1:13:11.120 We've all got responsibilities. We've all got something to lose. 1:13:11.120 --> 1:13:12.680 I've got a baby on the way. 1:13:15.920 --> 1:13:18.280 But we made promises to each other... 1:13:18.280 --> 1:13:20.080 and we can't go back on them now. 1:13:22.600 --> 1:13:24.800 It will pass. Alex, I... 1:13:24.800 --> 1:13:26.280 It will pass. 1:13:29.760 --> 1:13:31.800 It did before. 1:13:35.840 --> 1:13:37.360 Hold the course. 1:13:38.480 --> 1:13:40.480 We stick to the story. 1:13:41.960 --> 1:13:43.160 I-I just... 1:13:44.280 --> 1:13:45.960 ...I don't think I can. 1:13:52.000 --> 1:13:55.800 Well, you better, Ziggy, OK? 1:14:23.000 --> 1:14:25.760 I think it's time to start drinking. 1:14:25.760 --> 1:14:27.480 I'm technically on the clock. 1:14:27.480 --> 1:14:29.080 Oh, come on! 1:14:29.080 --> 1:14:30.800 And driving. 1:14:30.800 --> 1:14:32.280 It's Chateauneuf du Pape. 1:14:40.320 --> 1:14:42.320 One can't hurt. 1:14:42.320 --> 1:14:43.640 Thanks. 1:14:48.040 --> 1:14:50.120 I know your plan. 1:14:50.120 --> 1:14:51.480 Get me drunk... 1:14:51.480 --> 1:14:53.120 lock the door. 1:14:53.120 --> 1:14:55.920 Torture me until I tell you something you don't already know. 1:14:57.440 --> 1:15:00.840 Is it so bad to want to enjoy a glass of wine with our work? 1:15:00.840 --> 1:15:02.000 It's heavy stuff. 1:15:02.000 --> 1:15:03.280 Where are these from? 1:15:05.040 --> 1:15:07.280 Oh... another student. 1:15:07.280 --> 1:15:09.600 There's a couple of the boys there, but nothing that I... 1:15:09.600 --> 1:15:11.520 I need to take this. Wait, what? 1:15:11.520 --> 1:15:13.120 I'm sorry - thank you for the wine... 1:15:13.120 --> 1:15:14.600 No, no, wait, what?! 1:15:35.680 --> 1:15:39.120 Whose party is this?! Toad of Toad Hall? 1:15:39.120 --> 1:15:42.120 Some fourth years found it and, apparently, nobody lives here, 1:15:42.120 --> 1:15:45.040 so it's all ours! 1:15:48.240 --> 1:15:51.160 DANCE MUSIC PLAYING 1:15:52.800 --> 1:15:55.480 Hey, drink some water, man. 1:15:55.480 --> 1:15:58.720 That Dorothy's all right, eh? Kind of looks a bit like Rosie. 1:15:58.720 --> 1:16:01.160 Maybe chew some gum. I'm gonna chew on her. 1:16:01.160 --> 1:16:03.200 The lucky girl! 1:16:05.800 --> 1:16:08.200 Come on! 1:16:08.200 --> 1:16:11.400 Come on. Come on. 1:16:11.400 --> 1:16:14.800 ♪ She came from Greece She had a thirst for knowledge 1:16:14.800 --> 1:16:17.480 ♪ She studied sculpture At St Martin's College 1:16:17.480 --> 1:16:20.640 ♪ That's where I... # Come on! 1:16:20.640 --> 1:16:21.960 ♪ Caught her eye 1:16:24.240 --> 1:16:27.120 ♪ And then in 30 seconds' time 1:16:27.120 --> 1:16:32.080 ♪ She said I wanna live like common people 1:16:32.080 --> 1:16:35.400 ♪ I wanna do whatever Common people do. ♪ 1:16:43.080 --> 1:16:46.400 Hey! You came. 1:16:46.400 --> 1:16:48.880 You all right? Yeah. 1:16:48.880 --> 1:16:51.680 I've gotta say something. 1:16:51.680 --> 1:16:57.600 You need to stop messing around. You're either in it or you're not. 1:17:00.200 --> 1:17:02.160 And if you're not... 1:17:02.160 --> 1:17:04.320 then go and do one, Rosie. 1:17:23.400 --> 1:17:27.320 Sarge! 1:17:27.320 --> 1:17:29.560 I tried to call - you didn't pick up. 1:17:29.560 --> 1:17:31.320 It's kind of urgent, though. 1:17:31.320 --> 1:17:34.480 They lied. She was at the party with Ziggy. 1:17:36.040 --> 1:17:37.520 Where did this come from? 1:17:37.520 --> 1:17:39.640 Another student. Bel didn't think they were useful. 1:17:49.000 --> 1:17:51.040 Smells good. Where you been? 1:17:51.040 --> 1:17:53.560 Oh, you know, surgery ran over. Complications. 1:17:53.560 --> 1:17:57.280 Go OK in the end? Yeah, it was fine. 1:17:57.280 --> 1:18:00.480 Ah! No. No. You're not running now. 1:18:00.480 --> 1:18:02.080 My mind's going... 1:18:02.080 --> 1:18:05.360 No, come on, sit down, talk to me. I've got to, OK? It's... 1:18:06.480 --> 1:18:08.520 It's the only thing keeping me sane at the minute. 1:18:08.520 --> 1:18:10.880 Do you really think it's keeping you sane? 1:18:14.840 --> 1:18:18.960 OK! But we're eating dinner together afterwards, though. 1:18:18.960 --> 1:18:21.000 No phones. 1:18:22.360 --> 1:18:25.280 But you must remember something about where you left it? 1:18:25.280 --> 1:18:27.360 Well, can you at least try, Weird? 1:18:27.360 --> 1:18:30.520 It's a freaking car, not a contact lens. 1:18:31.760 --> 1:18:33.280 SIGHS 1:18:33.280 --> 1:18:36.120 All right. All right, I'm gonna go. 1:18:42.160 --> 1:18:45.120 No, no, the pigs are out the front. 1:18:47.040 --> 1:18:50.400 Yeah, I'll go out the back. They won't see me. 1:18:51.800 --> 1:18:53.280 All right. 1:18:53.280 --> 1:18:55.240 All right, bye. 1:19:16.360 --> 1:19:19.360 You haven't said anything in about 20 minutes, Col. 1:19:24.920 --> 1:19:26.800 Yeah, there's not much to say. 1:19:28.720 --> 1:19:30.120 I know. 1:19:31.120 --> 1:19:32.800 I know. 1:19:51.520 --> 1:19:54.000 I just want to hurt something! 1:19:59.720 --> 1:20:01.480 I know where they live. 1:20:04.320 --> 1:20:07.720 The three they caught. I saw them, going home. 1:20:07.720 --> 1:20:10.240 Why didn't you tell me earlier?! 1:20:10.240 --> 1:20:12.080 Get in the car. 1:20:31.960 --> 1:20:34.560 Col, that was one of them! No, it wasn't. 1:20:47.760 --> 1:20:49.400 See, I told you! 1:20:49.400 --> 1:20:50.800 Are you one of them? 1:20:50.800 --> 1:20:53.440 It is, Colin, I swear, we've seen them in the pub, talking to her! 1:20:53.440 --> 1:20:54.920 Right, let me out. 1:20:56.040 --> 1:20:58.760 Come here. Come here. 1:21:00.600 --> 1:21:02.200 Get off! 1:21:03.760 --> 1:21:04.920 Get off! 1:21:04.920 --> 1:21:07.840 Get in. Get in. 1:21:07.840 --> 1:21:10.400 Go, Donnie! Go! Go! 1:21:12.240 --> 1:21:15.560 This is huge. I asked him yesterday, to his face, 1:21:15.560 --> 1:21:18.680 "Do you want to change your story," and he said no, 1:21:18.680 --> 1:21:21.440 he saw her at the pub and then the cathedral. 1:21:21.440 --> 1:21:24.680 But now we know she was at the party with him. MacLennan was right. 1:21:24.680 --> 1:21:26.040 Her brothers were right. 1:21:26.040 --> 1:21:30.480 He's been lying all this time, and finally we've caught him in it. 1:21:36.600 --> 1:21:37.840 You knew my sister. No! 1:21:37.840 --> 1:21:39.160 Don't lie to me. 1:21:39.160 --> 1:21:42.520 You were seen hanging around the Lammas bar. 1:21:42.520 --> 1:21:44.920 I saw you talking to her, you and your pals. I can't breathe! 1:21:44.920 --> 1:21:46.400 Did she meet you three? No! 1:21:46.400 --> 1:21:48.400 See, I don't believe you. Where are you taking me? 1:21:48.400 --> 1:21:50.600 To make you tell the truth. 1:21:59.640 --> 1:22:00.920 No. 1:22:00.920 --> 1:22:02.760 Every time you do this, it gets worse for you. 1:22:02.760 --> 1:22:04.960 No, please, stop, stop! Stop, please! 1:22:04.960 --> 1:22:06.680 Climb it. 1:22:06.680 --> 1:22:09.880 Climb it or I will kill you. 1:22:09.880 --> 1:22:11.880 I don't care any more. 1:22:11.880 --> 1:22:13.520 We lost Rosie. 1:22:15.360 --> 1:22:17.760 Rosie's dead. 1:22:17.760 --> 1:22:20.200 CRIES OUT 1:22:22.960 --> 1:22:25.360 Bottle dungeon. Always wondered what was down there. 1:22:34.880 --> 1:22:36.240 I did warn you. 1:22:36.240 --> 1:22:41.320 No. No. What's down there? No! No! No. No. 1:22:41.320 --> 1:22:44.720 Tell me what happened and I'll let you go. 1:22:44.720 --> 1:22:46.720 I've told you everything! 1:22:46.720 --> 1:22:48.680 Why are you still lying to me? 1:22:50.520 --> 1:22:52.120 Hold onto me, Donnie. 1:22:52.120 --> 1:22:53.440 Why do you think I'm lying?! 1:22:53.440 --> 1:22:55.280 I heard you were there, covered in her blood. 1:22:57.280 --> 1:22:58.360 You killed her! 1:22:58.360 --> 1:23:00.360 No, I swear, I swear to God. 1:23:02.600 --> 1:23:04.080 HE YELLS 1:23:42.480 --> 1:23:45.560 DS Karen Pirie, this is DC Murray - what's going on? 1:23:45.560 --> 1:23:47.760 Hit and run. White male, early 40s. 1:23:47.760 --> 1:23:49.760 Can we approach? Ma'am. 1:24:04.440 --> 1:24:07.720 DS Karen Pirie, Serious Crime. Do you have an ID on this victim? 1:24:07.720 --> 1:24:09.880 Sure. Here you are. 1:24:12.280 --> 1:24:14.200 Is he injured or...? No, he's... 1:24:16.320 --> 1:24:18.000 He's dead. 1:24:23.200 --> 1:24:26.360 'Trauma can have a ripple effect. 1:24:28.240 --> 1:24:30.600 'At the centre is the victim - 1:24:30.600 --> 1:24:34.760 'the individual who has directly experienced the traumatic event, 1:24:34.760 --> 1:24:38.760 'and may or may not be physically injured.' 1:24:38.760 --> 1:24:41.120 DOORBELL RINGS 1:24:44.280 --> 1:24:48.040 'Then, moving outwards, there are the grieving relatives. 1:24:54.760 --> 1:24:57.760 'The friends and colleagues of the victim.' 1:25:01.120 --> 1:25:02.600 SOBS 1:25:02.600 --> 1:25:07.240 'Or those who were at close physical proximity to the event. 1:25:10.800 --> 1:25:14.280 'At the next level are the rescue and recovery teams. 1:25:16.160 --> 1:25:20.120 'The fire service, the paramedics, the police. 1:25:22.200 --> 1:25:26.000 'And the ripples continue onwards and outwards 1:25:26.000 --> 1:25:28.800 'unless something changes 1:25:28.800 --> 1:25:33.240 'because trauma needs to be processed, 1:25:33.240 --> 1:25:34.840 'wounds need to heal, 1:25:34.840 --> 1:25:40.000 'victims need answers, or the pain and disruption, 1:25:40.000 --> 1:25:41.520 it carries on.' 1:25:46.040 --> 1:25:47.920 My main suspect is dead! 1:25:47.920 --> 1:25:51.440 Alex. Alex! 1:25:53.120 --> 1:25:56.800 What you need to do right now, Alex, is answer our questions honestly. 1:26:00.400 --> 1:26:02.920 SCREAMING 1:26:02.920 --> 1:26:05.080 Rosie was in the car with Weird that night. 1:26:05.080 --> 1:26:06.440 Who was she there to see? 1:26:07.480 --> 1:26:09.160 I really don't know. 1:26:09.160 --> 1:26:12.320 I will kill you with my bare hands. 1:26:12.320 --> 1:26:16.120 Colin, your alibi for the time of Rosie's murder isn't solid. 1:26:16.120 --> 1:26:19.520 You don't think that I'm feeling some consequences? 1:26:22.160 --> 1:26:23.680 I felt like I needed to do something. 1:26:23.680 --> 1:26:25.800 They've posted pictures of Ziggy and Weird. 1:26:25.800 --> 1:26:29.560 They've been named on the internet. So their identities are out there? 1:26:29.560 --> 1:26:33.480 You have sabotaged this case so profoundly 1:26:33.480 --> 1:26:36.080 that I am in one mind to take you off it completely. 1:26:39.000 --> 1:26:40.320 SHE YELLS 1:26:42.080 --> 1:26:44.680 We were young. We were drunk. 1:26:48.880 --> 1:26:50.920 Subtitles by accessibility@itv.com 89877

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