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There's been a murder.
I wouldn't have rung normally,
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but this one's unusual.
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Fun and games in here. Ray Collins,
arrested two and a half years ago
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on suspicion of sexual assault
of children under 13.
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I struggled to cope
with the guilt of what he did.
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It's a scar that never fades.
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We're dealing with two accused
yet unconvicted paedophiles,
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both attacked
with unusual brutality.
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This could just be the start.
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She's my daughter,
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and we will all be scarred by this
for the rest of our lives.
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She used the same words.
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Mr Regis, it is my responsibility
to inform you, you are free to go.
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Revenge diminishes us.
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When you decide you have the right
to enact your own punishment,
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where does it lead?
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Hi.
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Oh, sorry, man.
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Did I wake you up?
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No, no. No, you're good.
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I made some coffee. You want some?
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Er... Sure.
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Do you want some milk? Some sugar?
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No, thanks.
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So, how're you getting on with Hal?
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Erm...
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Harry.
Oh!
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Great, man.
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He's a really good boy.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, he's great.
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They can be hard work, though,
sometimes, can't they, kids?
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Yeah.
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He comes to stay here quite a bit,
to give his mum break,
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and, I mean,
he can be a right little sod.
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The amount of times
that I have nearly...
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You know?
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But that's the deal, isn't it?
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As a parent, or uncle, or anyone,
really, who's in charge of kids.
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You've gotta be better than that.
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Yeah.
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So there's no obvious connection
in the three cases at the CPS,
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and the lawyers handling the
Statham, Collins and Dawlish cases
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were all different.
And?
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And Statham
was attacked in early 2015.
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Why would the assailant then wait
over two years
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before attacking two more
in as many days? I don't know.
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I just...
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I just think it's significant
that all three were attacked in ways
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that inflicted fairly uniquely
appalling violence.
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I'm saying why does it necessarily
have to be one person
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rather than one idea
done by several people?
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You got any theories who?
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Yeah. I think we have to keep
looking at family connections.
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Friends of friends, maybe
an organised group of vigilantes.
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Absolutely. I'm just...
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saying, I see a very
distinct rage here.
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See one or recognise one?
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Sorry, that just...
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Sorry.
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If I'm right, we have a man in jail
in Nico Kashell
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who can tell us who owns that rage.
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Right, I have to go visit
my old governor.
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I've got to be there
at three o'clock.
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In the meantime, can you get me
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or can someone get me
Kashell's home address, please?
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Yeah. Do you want me to set up
an interview with his wife?
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No. Just the address for now.
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I could never have done such
horrible things to anyone, Lisa.
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Let alone a child!
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Which is why the case is collapsing,
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because I've been
the victim of an injustice.
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And all I'm asking now is if we
could just put the last six months
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behind us and get on with
the rest of our lives!
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You know what surprises me
more than anything, Mark?
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More than you being out, even?
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It's you thinking
I would ever want to spend
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a moment more with you
than these few minutes now.
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I sat in court.
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I heard the charges.
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I wept for that poor child
and her family.
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I wished you could
go to prison for life.
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I'm so ashamed of ever having had
any feelings for you.
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And I want you to leave, now.
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I only wanted a place to kip,
anyway.
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I'll see you around, Lisa.
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I promise you that.
Hm.
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Bitch!
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Hello, William.
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All right, boss?
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Hey!
Oh!
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Yeah, yeah.
Good to see you.
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All right. Don't overdo it.
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In you go.
Oh, thank you.
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Sorry about the, er... mess.
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I was never one
for the old domesticity.
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Sandra used to do all that.
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Yeah. Sorry to hear about that.
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Yeah, well...
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They all piss off in the end,
don't they?
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Can hardly blame them, really,
can we?
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Coffee?
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Er, no.
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Tea?
No, I'm fine, honestly.
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Little sharpener.
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I have to be back in town at five,
so...
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How are you?
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Yeah, I'm-I'm good.
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Two years clear now,
so fingers crossed.
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It's great to hear that.
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Sit.
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So... fire away.
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You wanted to hear about
the Statham case.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, I just want to see
if there's a link
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between that and two new cases.
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One GBH, one murder,
both known convicted paedophiles.
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A link?
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Yeah.
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What, you mean...
It can't be the perpetrator.
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Statham's man's doing
an eight-stretch, isn't he?
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Nico Kashell, yeah.
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Actually, if we can...
if we can come back to him.
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First, I just want to ask you,
why do you think the CPS
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didn't prosecute Statham
for the sexual assault?
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Well, the evidence wasn't brilliant.
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Why waste time trying to convict
a 30-70 case
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when you can convict half a dozen
80-20 cases for the same money?
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Oh, OK.
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And in terms of Kashell...
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..do you think it was definitely him
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who attacked Statham?
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He confessed, Will.
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Yeah, but, you know,
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people confess for all sorts of
reasons, don't they?
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It's not always cos they did it.
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His car was photographed
half a mile from Statham's house
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an hour before the attack.
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We found carpet fibres
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similar to the carpet
found in Statham's house
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inside Kashell's car.
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On the passenger side.
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I'm not saying that he wasn't
involved in some way.
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I just...
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..I don't buy him
being the actual assailant.
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His little girl
had been raped by this man.
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He destroyed their lives.
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And the rage?
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Well, the rage he felt
when they dropped the charges -
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the rage we all felt...
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I believe 100% he could have done
what he did.
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Give it up, fella.
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Eh?
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Cos the shape,
the order you're looking for...
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..doesn't exist.
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The world is random...
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..chaotic...
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and cruel.
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And you know that better than most.
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'Guv, it's Josie.
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'I've just texted you
the Kashell home address,
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'but his wife's not back until six.'
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'Let me know if you want me
to set up an interview.'
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If Kashell's wife had known I was
coming, she could have wiped it.
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Wiped what? You don't even know
there's anything on it.
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If I'm right, and Kashell
is doing someone else's time,
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then his wife must have known.
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My guess is she would
have been in on it,
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so emails, address books, contacts
are a good place to start.
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Except anything you find
you won't be able to use
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cos you got the information
illegally.
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Josie, there are going to be more
deaths unless we catch the killer,
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so does that really matter?
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Yes.
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Fine. I'll do it myself.
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OK, fine. I'll do it.
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I need to speak to the brief
from the CPS
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who handled the Statham case.
Can you set up a meeting?
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Yeah.
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So I went through all her contacts,
and not surprisingly,
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there was no number listed under
Debbie Collins or Gail Watkins.
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I went back and tried
the initials DC and GW,
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and that's when I found
a number for a Derek Collier.
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Did you ring it?
And?
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Debbie Collins answered.
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Yes!
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Ha!
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Was there any Gail Watkins
connection?
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Not that I've found yet.
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So you think it was actually them
together, or..?
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We'll have to run down
both their alibis,
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but it seems unlikely, doesn't it?
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I mean,
they're both small women physically.
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I doubt even together they could
have overpowered any of those men.
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It's not impossible, I guess.
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Maybe they paid someone.
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Maybe, but maybe
they didn't want money.
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Maybe a sense of justice done
was enough.
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Justice done for who?
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For the families, yeah, but why
would someone else do that for them,
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commit such brutal assaults?
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Cos they could.
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Cos they were unhinged.
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Cos they understood that pain.
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'It had nothing to do with
a lack of evidence.'
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If we think any case stands
half a decent chance of success,
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particularly one as serious
as Statham's, we take it to trial,
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and in this instance,
we authorised charges.
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So why didn't it go?
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This is all in the files.
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It was the parents.
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They withdrew their cooperation.
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What do you mean?
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Sorry - they withdrew
their cooperation?
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Yes, they didn't want
their daughter to testify
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or to be examined by counsel.
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Despite all the special measures
we put in place,
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they thought it
would be too traumatic for her.
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Might have still
secured a conviction
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but it would have made it
extraordinarily difficult.
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OK. OK. I need to talk to you
about couple of other cases.
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Oh, no, I'm sorry,
I've got to go to a conference.
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Or you could just come down
the station.
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Which cases?
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So, the parents in the Collins,
Dawlish and Statham cases
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all caused them to collapse
themselves by withdrawing
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the cooperation of their children
from the police and the CPS
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within the same three-month period.
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And why would anyone do that?
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Exactly.
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It's completely counterintuitive,
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unless... you come at it from a
different angle and ask yourselves
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if maybe they wanted to keep
the suspects out of prison.
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Shit!
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They thought prison was a let-off.
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Exactly.
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I think this group of parents
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collectively decided on
a far worse punishment
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for their children's abuser.
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And how did they justify their
sudden non-cooperation to the CPS?
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They just...
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They just said it
would be to traumatic for the kids.
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We need to speak to Debbie Collins
again.
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Yes, and we need to get a warrant
for Nico Kashell's house.
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It's time to pay his wife a visit.
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So am I under arrest?
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No.
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Greta, you're not under arrest.
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But I am gonna ask you
some questions
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and I do have to caution you
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and tell you that you don't have
to say anything,
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but it may harm your defence
if you do not mention
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when questioned something
you later rely on in court,
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and anything you do say may be
used in evidence, OK?
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Yes.
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OK.
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Why would you disguise Debbie's name
258
00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:40,960
unless you didn't want people to
know that you were connected to her?
259
00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:42,960
I don't know.
260
00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:46,960
Maybe I was worried
when her husband got attacked.
261
00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:48,960
Worried that we might think
you were involved?
262
00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:50,640
Maybe.
Are you?
263
00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:51,960
No.
264
00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:55,320
So when did you last speak to her?
265
00:16:56,960 --> 00:16:59,960
Er... I don't know,
maybe a year ago?
266
00:16:59,960 --> 00:17:01,960
And how did you know her?
267
00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:05,960
There was a group I went to
for families
268
00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:08,960
who'd been affected by abuse.
269
00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:10,800
Was it this one?
270
00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:13,960
Yeah.
271
00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:15,160
Did you meet Gall Watkins there?
272
00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:18,960
Er... I only went a couple of times.
273
00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:20,320
I really don't remember.
274
00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:22,960
Who ran it?
275
00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:23,960
Er...
276
00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:27,960
It was a circle, you sat in a circle
of chairs and just talked.
277
00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:28,960
I don't think anyone...
278
00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:31,960
Someone must have booked
the hall, mustn't they?
279
00:17:31,960 --> 00:17:32,960
I guess.
280
00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:34,960
Well, whose number's this?
281
00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:36,960
It was just an answering service
282
00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:38,960
so that you could let them know
if you were going.
283
00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:39,960
Where was it?
284
00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:43,960
Some sort of old council building,
I think it was.
285
00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:46,960
It was... behind Warren Street.
286
00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:53,320
Greta, this file of phone contacts
was amended on the day
287
00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:55,160
that Ray Collins was murdered.
288
00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:56,960
In fact...
289
00:17:56,960 --> 00:17:58,960
I mean, look at that,
290
00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:01,800
it was only two hours after
our estimated time of his death.
291
00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:14,640
I have a daughter
who was sexually abused
292
00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:18,960
and a husband serving eight years
in a high security prison,
293
00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:20,960
so perhaps you'll understand why
294
00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:25,960
I don't weep for men like Collins,
but I didn't kill him.
295
00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:29,960
Debbie did call me to tell me
what had happened, but when he died,
296
00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:31,960
I was in church with my daughter.
297
00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:37,960
Thanking God for giving us all
the strength we needed to survive.
298
00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:42,320
She might have been telling
the truth about her alibi,
299
00:18:42,320 --> 00:18:44,960
but she's lying about other stuff.
300
00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:46,960
They all are.
301
00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:49,640
We keep the pressure on.
302
00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:50,960
'So, we just wanted to talk to you'
303
00:18:50,960 --> 00:18:53,960
about something you said
last time we spoke.
304
00:18:54,960 --> 00:19:01,960
You said, "I struggle to cope
with all the guilt at what he did,
305
00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:04,960
"what his lawyer did,
what the CPS did to our family."
306
00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:08,960
And I find that a bit odd.
307
00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:11,960
Cos actually, it was you
who withdrew your cooperation
308
00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:13,640
and caused the case to collapse,
wasn't it?
309
00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:15,640
Who told you that?
310
00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:16,960
I spoke with the CPS.
311
00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:18,960
Did they tell you why
I withdrew cooperation?
312
00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:20,320
Why don't you tell me?
313
00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:22,960
Because your lot messed up.
314
00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:25,160
You interviewed one of my girls
without a responsible adult.
315
00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:26,800
Because my solicitor said
316
00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:28,960
the defence would have made
mincemeat of her.
317
00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:30,960
Well, why not just have her be
interviewed again?
318
00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:34,160
I'm guessing you don't have kids.
319
00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:37,000
So you don't know what it's like,
320
00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:39,960
watching someone you love
more than anything else in the world
321
00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:43,960
have to dredge it all up again
and again and again.
322
00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:45,960
That's why.
323
00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:52,960
Hm.
324
00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:57,960
Tell me about your relationship
with Greta Kashell.
325
00:19:59,960 --> 00:20:01,960
I don't have a relationship
with Greta Kashell.
326
00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:03,960
Yeah, but you know she is,
don't you?
327
00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:04,960
I met her a few times.
328
00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:06,160
Where?
329
00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:09,960
At a support group I went to
occasionally, but we're not friends.
330
00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:13,960
I've met her... We've spoken
maybe twice in as many years.
331
00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:14,960
And Gail Watkins?
332
00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:16,960
Same.
At SCAR?
333
00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:18,960
Yes.
334
00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:25,960
Debbie, we have a warrant
to search your house.
335
00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:28,960
When we do, we're going to go
through your phone records
336
00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:31,960
and your computer and your diaries
and your address books.
337
00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:34,960
You really think it was us?
338
00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:35,960
Was it?
339
00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:37,960
No.
340
00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:39,960
Did you ask someone
to do it for you?
341
00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:41,960
No.
Do you know who did it?
342
00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:42,960
No.
343
00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:49,960
Debbie, this is your chance,
344
00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:51,960
this is your opportunity
to tell us your side of the story.
345
00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:58,960
Because I think in your heart
you want to talk to me.
346
00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:01,960
I think you are involved
in these events somehow,
347
00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:03,960
and I think you regret it.
348
00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:07,160
I think you regret it very much.
349
00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:11,960
I think you wanna talk.
350
00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:18,960
No.
351
00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:20,960
I have nothing further to say.
352
00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:34,960
..the assault and murder last week
of as yet unnamed man.
353
00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:38,160
It's been confirmed by local
residents that both men have been
354
00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:43,640
arrested previously in connection
with allegations of child sex abuse.
355
00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:44,960
Now, other news,
356
00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:47,960
and in the City,
the FTSE 100 is up...
357
00:21:56,960 --> 00:21:58,960
Staffe.
358
00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:01,000
A result from the search
of Debbie Collins' house.
359
00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:03,480
This was found in a kitchen drawer.
360
00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:06,320
It's got Greta Kashell in there
and Gail Watkins
361
00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:07,960
and a number of other names
362
00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:10,960
which I'm guessing are other parents
that she met at the support group.
363
00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:15,960
Can I...
364
00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:18,480
OK, OK, we need to run this through
Intel, PNC, CMS,
365
00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:19,960
Custody and Command And Control.
366
00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:21,960
I want to know what
the crimes against their kids were,
367
00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:23,960
whether the suspects
were prosecuted,
368
00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:26,960
where all the suspects are now
and where all those parents were
369
00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:29,960
when Statham, Collins
and Dawlish were attacked.
370
00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:32,960
Ah, yeah, we're getting closer,
we're getting closer.
371
00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:35,960
This is good work, Dave.
372
00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:53,960
Oi.
373
00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:55,960
Present.
374
00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:57,960
We all clubbed together.
375
00:22:57,960 --> 00:22:58,960
You shouldn't have.
376
00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:01,960
That's what I said.
It's just man flu.
377
00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:05,960
Er, so the answering service number,
did you get any joy from BT?
378
00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:07,640
Yeah, name and an address.
379
00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:10,960
Unfortunately, the name's
John Smith,
380
00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:14,960
line and bills were registered
to a serviced office in the city.
381
00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:15,960
What about how they paid?
382
00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:18,960
I'm waiting to hear
back from the billing department.
383
00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:21,960
They said it might take a couple
of days, so...
384
00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:23,000
Jesus, all right!
385
00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:24,960
Almost making me feel guilty.
386
00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:26,960
Almost.
387
00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:27,960
Right, I'm off to the SCAR
meeting hall.
388
00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:29,960
Call me on the billing as soon as.
389
00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:32,000
OK. Just to be clear, this isn't
what you give sick people.
390
00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:33,960
It hasn't been for about 20 years.
391
00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:35,480
It tastes nice, though, doesn't it?
392
00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:07,960
I'll let you know, girls, all right?
393
00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:12,960
Well, as I said, they always
paid in cash, I remember that.
394
00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:13,960
So when was the last time they came?
395
00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:16,960
What? The SCAR group,
when was the last time they met?
396
00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:17,960
Oh, I don't know.
397
00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:19,800
About 18 months ago.
398
00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:20,960
Here's the paperwork.
399
00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:23,960
I should have chucked this out.
400
00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:26,960
In fact, I only saw it
was still there when you rang.
401
00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:29,960
Do you think if we asked
you to take part in a video ID,
402
00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:31,960
you'd be able to recognise
any of the people that were here?
403
00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:33,960
Maybe the ones
that paid you the rent?
404
00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:35,960
Oh, I don't know, really.
405
00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:37,160
Long time ago.
406
00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:38,320
Maybe.
407
00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:40,160
OK. Well, we'll give you
a shout when we're done.
408
00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:41,640
Thanks a lot for your help.
409
00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:57,640
Give me that.
410
00:24:57,640 --> 00:24:58,960
It's just a kid's drawing.
411
00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:05,960
Will?
412
00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:08,960
This is printed on a HOLMES page.
413
00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:09,960
Our HOLMES?
414
00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:11,480
Yeah.
415
00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:13,960
Only a copper would be
able to print this out.
416
00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:16,960
Yeah.
417
00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:17,960
RINGING
418
00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:19,960
Staffe.
419
00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:21,960
Shit. When?
420
00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:23,640
OK.
421
00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:29,960
Nico Kashell just tried
to top himself.
422
00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:31,960
Shit!
423
00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:34,960
I'm beginning to have
a very unpleasant thought.
424
00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:39,960
Kashell would have known
Bob Jessop pretty well.
425
00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:42,960
He'd have had a lot of contact
with him through the investigation.
426
00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:43,960
Whoa, that is quite a thing.
427
00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:45,960
Do you seriously think Jessop
could be involved?
428
00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:47,960
I dunno.
This way.
429
00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:50,160
I dunno, I hope not, but...
430
00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:52,960
I'm going to consider it
a possibility anyway.
431
00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:54,960
I guess.
432
00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:56,960
Just keep this between us, yeah?
433
00:25:57,960 --> 00:25:59,320
Of course.
434
00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:04,320
DI Jessop.
435
00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:08,960
What about him?
436
00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:09,960
Well...
437
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:16,960
..you must have got to know him
through the investigation.
438
00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:22,160
I met him twice.
439
00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:26,320
Our relationship was with
the family liaison officer.
440
00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:30,800
Hardly knew Jessop.
441
00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:35,320
Who attacked Statham, Nico?
442
00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:39,800
Cos it wasn't you, was it?
443
00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:40,960
Did you pay someone?
444
00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:42,960
Did Jessop introduce you to someone?
445
00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:45,960
I mean, you're an accountant,
for Christ's sake!
446
00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:48,960
How did you-how did you
get hold of chloroform, huh?
447
00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:50,960
How did you get into his house?
Guv.
448
00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:52,960
Just stop lying to us,
you little prick! Guv!
449
00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:07,960
'We will all be scarred
by this for the rest of our lives.'
450
00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:10,320
'I dreamed
about killing him a million times.
451
00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:13,960
'I thought about what I'd do,
to make him suffer.
452
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:17,800
'The rage he felt
when they dropped the charges -
453
00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:18,960
'the rage we all felt...'
454
00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:23,160
He's not a happy bunny.
455
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:27,160
What?
456
00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:29,800
I went through the list
and checked all the names.
457
00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:33,960
Of the other victims' cases, they
all went to trial, no halted cases,
458
00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:34,960
no parents pulling out...
459
00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:35,960
OK. OK.
460
00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:36,960
Except then, this morning,
461
00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:38,960
I saw an update on HOLMES
462
00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:42,960
relating to one of the surnames
in Debbie Collins' diary,
463
00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:44,480
another parent whose daughter
464
00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:47,000
was allegedly assaulted by a man
named Mark Regis.
465
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:48,960
This guy?
466
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:49,960
Yeah.
467
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:52,480
So it turns out that Regis
was released two days ago,
468
00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:56,960
when the victim's family suddenly
withdrew their cooperation.
469
00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:02,960
Do we have an address for him?
470
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:04,960
His bail address was his wife's,
471
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:06,960
but she just told me
she chucked him out.
472
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:07,960
Did she have any idea where he went?
473
00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:09,320
No.
Well, we need to find him, now.
474
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:42,960
Yeah, can I have the number
for my local police station, please?
475
00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:48,960
That's OK.
476
00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:52,960
Hello?
477
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:57,960
And Harry's really loved spending
time with you, so thank you.
478
00:28:57,960 --> 00:28:59,960
What time are you pushing off
tomorrow?
479
00:28:59,960 --> 00:29:03,160
Paolo's got a job interview
about three o'clock,
480
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:05,960
then he'll come back here
and we'll probably push off then.
481
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:07,960
I mean... You can...
482
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:10,960
You could stay tomorrow night if
you want. I can cook you something.
483
00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:12,960
He's got to meet a friend in town,
so...
484
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:16,320
Well, why don't the three of us
go out,
485
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:18,960
you, me and Harry, catch a film?
486
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:21,480
It's probably just best
that I go with him.
487
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:29,960
Well, I'm gonna miss you both.
488
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:35,960
He's asked me to marry him.
489
00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:44,960
He wants to have more children,
a brother or sister for Harry...
490
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:51,960
..a-and you know how much
I wanted a real family, Will.
491
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:55,960
And he's the loveliest person when
he doesn't drink, I promise you.
492
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:03,960
Dinner!
493
00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:07,960
Well, if, um...
494
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:14,960
..if that's
what'll make you happy...
495
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:19,960
..I'm happy for you.
496
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:37,800
Mm, smells delicious.
497
00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:38,960
Thank you.
498
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:39,960
What is this?
499
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:41,320
Risotto. Mushroom.
500
00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:12,960
Hey.
501
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:14,960
You've been ignoring my calls.
502
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:16,800
Er, yeah, sorry.
503
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:17,960
Work's been insane.
504
00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:21,960
Well, I was just calling to say
if you do need me tomorrow,
505
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:23,960
I'm still around.
506
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:27,960
How about if I need you now?
507
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:09,960
'We can certainly expect
some thunder and heavy rain,
508
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:11,960
'lasting well into the afternoon,
509
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:14,960
'with scattered showers
carrying on until the night...'
510
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:16,960
'Heavy showers
and high humidity levels.
511
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:20,960
'This will last
well into the evening...'
512
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:21,960
'It was the last attack.
513
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:24,960
'Police believe that further
assaults may be possible
514
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:26,960
'and have asked
members of the public...'
515
00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:28,000
Fuck!
516
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:54,960
So is this the case?
517
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:57,960
Or tomorrow, or...?
518
00:32:59,960 --> 00:33:01,640
Christ knows.
519
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:06,960
Hardly even know
my own name at the moment.
520
00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:11,960
My latest wild theory
is that Bob Jessop did it.
521
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:14,960
How's old Bob?
522
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:17,960
Yeah, if you think
I'm in bad shape...
523
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:20,960
I heard Sandra left him.
524
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:22,640
How did you hear that?
525
00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:24,960
You know.
She rang me after you and me split.
526
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:26,960
We stayed in touch.
527
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:29,960
I've always liked Sandra.
528
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:31,960
She didn't deserve what he did.
529
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:33,960
What did he do?
530
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:34,960
Had an affair.
531
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:37,960
What?
532
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:40,640
You're joking me?
533
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:43,960
Somebody actually let Bob Jessop
put his penis inside them.
534
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:44,960
I thought you knew.
535
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:46,320
Oh, my God!
536
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:48,160
Who was the unlucky lady?
537
00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:49,960
Some woman from the CPS.
538
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:51,960
Yeah?
He met her on a case.
539
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:52,960
A Ruth...
540
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:55,000
Ruth...someone.
541
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:18,960
Boss, it's me.
542
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:20,960
It's Will.
543
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:23,960
I need to talk to you.
544
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:25,160
I know you were seeing Ruth
545
00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:28,960
at the same time that she was
handling the Kashell case.
546
00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:30,960
I can see your light
from the street, sir.
547
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:31,960
I know you're in there.
548
00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:34,960
Open the door, sir!
549
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:42,960
Suppose you'd better come in, then.
550
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:47,480
Argh!
551
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:55,640
I told you to walk away, lad!
552
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:27,960
Yeah?
Boss?
553
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:29,960
Yeah?
You all right?
554
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:30,960
Yeah.
555
00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:33,960
What's up?
556
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:36,640
Bob Jessop just sent us a note.
557
00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:39,640
It's a confession to the attacks.
558
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:42,960
I'm on my way.
559
00:35:57,960 --> 00:35:59,960
'It was dropped in by him
at two in the morning'
560
00:35:59,960 --> 00:36:03,960
and it's a full confession
to Statham, Collins and Dawlish.
561
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:06,960
We've got a team
checking the airports and the ports,
562
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:10,960
but that was only opened at eight,
so he'll have a head start.
563
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:15,640
If you're gonna run...
564
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:19,960
..why not just run?
565
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:22,960
And why all this?
566
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:30,960
Unless it's a distraction.
567
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:35,960
You said we've got people
searching the ports for Jessop,
568
00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:36,960
searching the airports.
569
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:38,960
Have we got anyone looking for him?
570
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:41,960
Mark Regis? Oh, shit!
571
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:43,960
We've got an address for him now,
so...
572
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:44,960
I'm coming.
573
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:48,960
And, you know, I'm sure I'm wrong,
574
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:51,960
Jessop's our man and Regis is fine
575
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:53,960
but it's just best to check, OK?
576
00:36:57,640 --> 00:36:58,960
What's that?
577
00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:00,960
It's a list of SCAR attendees.
578
00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:05,960
The one we found
at Debbie Collins' house.
579
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:07,320
Richard and Rebecca Allerton?
580
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:08,960
Yeah?
581
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:12,960
What was their story?
582
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:15,960
Er, their daughter
was raped three years ago.
583
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:17,960
There was a full investigation
but no-one was caught.
584
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:20,960
Er...
585
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:22,960
OK.
586
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:25,960
OK, um, you guys...
587
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:28,640
I'll meet you downstairs, all right,
I'm just going to make a call.
588
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:49,960
'Rick.'
589
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:51,960
Hello, Will.
590
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:53,960
'Hi. Where are you?'
591
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:57,000
Oh, just, er, out.
592
00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:00,640
'Do we need to talk?'
593
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:03,960
What about?
594
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:06,960
'You and your missus.'
595
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:10,960
Why would we need to talk about
me and Becca?
596
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:15,000
I've just seen
a couple's name on a list.
597
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:20,960
Richard and Rebecca Allerton.
598
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:22,960
'That's a good spot.
599
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:25,960
'We never did get married
in the end.'
600
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:31,320
Er... Right, you got a pen
and I'll give you an address?
601
00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:33,960
Poplar DLR...
602
00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:39,000
You go on.
603
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:40,960
Something else has come up.
604
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:41,960
Is everything OK?
605
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:42,960
It's fine.
606
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:44,800
I'll meet you there.
607
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:13,160
Hello, sir.
608
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:14,960
You called our station.
609
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:16,960
Yeah, I did.
Thanks for coming, officer.
610
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:18,960
My pleasure entirely, Mark.
611
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:26,960
This one here.
612
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:27,960
Yeah.
613
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:32,960
Mr Regis?
614
00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:36,800
Mr Regis, it's DI Pulford
and DC Chancellor from the police.
615
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:38,960
We just want to make sure you're OK.
616
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:41,960
Mr Regis?
617
00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:42,960
Mr Regis, are you down here?
618
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:01,960
Rick?
619
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:13,800
Rick?
620
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:19,800
Hello, mate.
621
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:21,960
Do go through.
622
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:26,960
Oh, Jesus Christ!
623
00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:30,960
Fun and games, eh?
624
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:32,480
MARK GROANS
625
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:34,960
Rick, what are you doing?
This is insane!
626
00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:38,960
Do you know what Mark here
did to his victims, the details?
627
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:40,960
Yeah, I read the files.
He raped her, Will.
628
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:42,800
I didn't.
629
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:45,320
When she was 11 years old.
630
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:50,960
And then, he told her if she went
to the police he'd find out
631
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:55,320
where she lived and then
rape and kill her mother.
632
00:40:57,480 --> 00:40:59,960
Been a bit of a star at school
up till then.
633
00:40:59,960 --> 00:41:01,960
Six months later, she's
cutting herself, smoking weed.
634
00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:04,000
Now, my little...
635
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:07,480
..Siany...
636
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:09,960
chose pills.
637
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:11,960
Becca found her in time.
638
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:14,960
I'm so sorry, Rick.
639
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:17,960
I didn't know any of that
till today.
640
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:20,960
No, well, why should you?
Private matter.
641
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:26,960
Yeah, so, the thing is, it's not
enough, is it, just to lock them up?
642
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:28,000
Not even to kill them.
643
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:31,960
What they really need
to understand is the pain...
644
00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:36,960
..so then they can tell
the others like them
645
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:41,960
what it's like and then maybe,
maybe they'll stop.
646
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:43,960
Yeah.
647
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:46,160
I mean, I'm not gonna lie,
it's hard to get it right,
648
00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:48,960
and one of the fuckers
went and died on me,
649
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:50,800
so I'm gonna go
easy on old Mark here.
650
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:52,640
Please, please don't.
651
00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:54,960
Rick. Rick!
What do you reckon?
652
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:55,960
Both feet?
653
00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:59,000
Foot and a hand?
What about Becca and Siany?
654
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:01,960
Huh? How are they gonna cope?
655
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:03,960
How are they gonna cope
with the pain
656
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:05,960
of you been taken away
for a life sentence?
657
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:09,800
Ah. Already lost me, I'm afraid.
658
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:11,960
You were wrong about the man flu.
659
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:14,800
Tumour.
660
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:16,960
Metastasised,
661
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:20,960
stage IV as of three weeks ago.
662
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:24,960
There is no stage V.
663
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:26,960
'Guv, it's Josie.'
664
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:29,480
Just wondering where you are.
Call me.
665
00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:31,960
Did he say anything
about where he was going, Ray?
666
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:33,960
'No, but... Oh, hang on.
667
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:35,800
'Yeah, there's a post-it
on his desk.
668
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:37,320
'An address in Poplar.'
669
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:42,960
It was actually at the Marsden
where I met Bob Jessop,
670
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:44,960
and we got chatting, as you do.
671
00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:47,960
Found out we were both old bill,
and then one day,
672
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:51,960
he started to tell me
about the Kashell case.
673
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:53,960
Course, then I told him all about...
674
00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:59,960
..Siany, and...
675
00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:04,960
..he suggested we try SCAR
676
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:07,640
cos Greta and Nico went there,
677
00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:09,160
and then we did.
678
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:11,960
You know?
679
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:14,960
We all knew it wasn't enough.
680
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:17,960
And then...
681
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:19,160
well,
682
00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:21,960
one day Bob had this idea...
683
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:25,960
..for a rougher type of justice.
684
00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:29,960
After I did what I did
to Statham, I was asked to stop,
685
00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:34,800
but then last month I found out I
only had a few weeks and I thought,
686
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:35,960
"No, fuck it, let's have some fun."
687
00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:40,960
And then when you rang just now,
well, I thought, "Yeah...
688
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:46,960
"..this is my chance...
689
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:51,960
"..to give something back."
690
00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:54,160
Something back?
691
00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:57,960
A chance for you to see what it
looks like, what it feels like,
692
00:43:57,960 --> 00:43:59,960
proper revenge.
693
00:43:59,960 --> 00:44:01,960
You think I could do
something like this?
694
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:04,960
If you had the people
who killed your parents
695
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:08,480
here in this room right now,
yes, mate, I do.
696
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:11,480
But, eh, there's no point
arguing the toss.
697
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:15,960
Let's just find out...
698
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:17,960
what it feels like.
699
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:29,960
No.
700
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:28,960
Gov?
701
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:29,960
Gov!
702
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:36,960
Sorry, sweetheart.
703
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:37,960
Will!
704
00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:39,960
Arrgh...
705
00:45:59,960 --> 00:46:01,480
Got it.
706
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:02,960
Cheers.
707
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:05,160
They've got Jessop.
708
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:06,960
Where?
709
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:07,960
Dover.
710
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:13,960
How much do you think
they did know? The other families?
711
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:31,960
Enough.
712
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:34,320
Bring 'em in.
713
00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:37,960
All of them.
714
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:59,320
Listen, um...if you and Paolo
ever need any time to yourself,
715
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:02,960
I mean, then Harry can always
come and stay at mine.
716
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:06,000
I mean, I'll take leave, I'll do
whatever needs to be done
717
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:09,960
just to make sure that
his well-being
718
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:11,960
was our number one priority.
719
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:17,960
We'll be fine.
720
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:19,960
Thank you.
721
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:27,960
Bye, Uncle Will.
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