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[narrator] Tonight, Silicon Valley
billionaire Chris Sacca
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joins the Sharks.
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Ideas are cheap. Execution is everything.
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[narrator] In the Tank,
entrepreneurs seek an investment
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to start, grow, or save their businesses.
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[narrator] Who are the Sharks?
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They're self-made business experts
worth billions.
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Kevin O'Leary
is a shrewd venture capitalist
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who made his fortune
selling a children's educational company
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for over $4 billion.
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Robert Herjavec,
son of an immigrant factory worker,
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founded one of the world's preeminent
cyber-security firms.
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Lori Greiner, the queen of QVC,
holds over 100 patents,
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and has launched more than 400 products,
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grossing over
a half a billion dollars in sales.
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Mark Cuban,
esteemed billionaire tech mogul
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and the outspoken owner
of the Dallas Mavericks.
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And billionaire investor Chris Sacca
left his high-profile position at Google
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at the height of his career
to start his own venture-capital fund,
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which is now one of the highest performing
investment funds in history
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with early investments in Twitter,
Instagram, and Uber.
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First into the Tank is a tech solution
to the dreaded parking ticket.
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My name is David Hegarty,
and I'm from San Francisco, California.
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My company is Fixed,
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and we are seeking a $700,000 investment
for a five percent equity stake.
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Let's talk about the last time
that you guys got a parking ticket.
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What was that one emotion you felt
more than all the other emotions?
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Anger, right?
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What is it about a parking ticket
that generates such anger in us?
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It's the injustice of the situation.
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You know that they make these signs
confusing on purpose.
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You know that they sit by the meter
waiting for it to expire.
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You know that the man
has just screwed you over,
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and there is nothing
that you can do about it.
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[laughing]
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-[Kevin] Until now.
-Until now.
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Fixed is the app that fights back.
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So how does it work?
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Step one, take a photograph
of your parking ticket.
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Step two, that's it.
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There is no step two. It's that simple.
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We take that parking ticket,
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we run it
through our proprietary algorithm
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to look for issues and errors
that make that ticket invalid.
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When we find an issue,
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we assemble a contest letter
on your behalf and send it to the city.
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Four weeks later, you find out
that your ticket has been dealt with.
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We need your help
to expand to as many cities
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as quickly as we can
because every city needs a ticket hero.
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-[Mark] Oh. Ha, ha.
-[Lori laughs]
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-So tell us the business model.
-[David] Certainly. Uh.
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It's a free app download.
You submit your ticket.
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If we beat your ticket,
we charge a 35 percent success fee.
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What's the success rate?
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We win about 20 to 30 percent
of our contests.
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So how many people just do it themselves?
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So in San Francisco, only five percent
of parking tickets are contested,
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and those that are contested,
I think the win rate is about 20 percent.
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What is the typical reason
that a ticket would be...
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-[David] Dismissed?
-Dismissed, yeah.
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There's lots of different reasons.
So, uh, initially, we look for errors.
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So the statutory information
that the officer has to write down.
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Frequently, they're in a rush,
they don't write that information,
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they made a typo on the license plate,
they wrote Acura when it's an Audi.
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We look for all these issues
that make the ticket invalid.
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Okay, but you're not really selling
a higher success rate.
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You're really selling the fact
that you're contesting it,
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'cause only five percent of people
actually contest.
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[David] We're actually selling both.
Firstly it's time consuming.
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Additionally, most people don't know
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that their ticket is invalid for,
like, X, Y, and Z,
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so we're basically winning those tickets
they would never have contested.
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But, David, how many tickets
are issued per year in America?
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We estimate 100 million tickets
written a year.
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So this is a major source of income
for the police.
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Oh, a huge source.
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What's the average penalty, or ticket?
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In San Francisco,
the average ticket is about $70.
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Are you operating anywhere else right now?
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Yeah, we are in San Francisco,
Oakland, Los Angeles, and New York.
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Tell us about the business.
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You have a $14 million value
on the business.
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-[David] Yeah.
-It must be huge. What are your sales?
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This year alone, I think we've done
$80,000 in-- in net revenue.
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What does it cost you to contest a ticket?
Between the crowd workers, the software,
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people working at your place,
what does it cost?
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From an average ticket, we make about
five to six bucks in revenue.
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You only make $5 or $6 per success?
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That's a combination of our 35 percent
win rate when we beat the ticket,
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and if we have to pay the ticket for you,
we charge you a 1.95 convenience fee.
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What's it cost you to acquire
the incremental customer?
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We acquire users for a blended average
of about four to five bucks.
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-That's not exciting.
-[Chris] Is that paid marketing?
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-I mean, is that Facebook and Twitter ads?
-Uh, no.
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We have a team of people
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that follow the street-cleaning
vehicles in the city...
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-[laughs]
-Come on.
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...and put a flyer on the cars
that have a parking ticket.
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-[Kevin] Whoa.
-It's actually smart. It's just expensive.
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It's not that expensive.
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You make $5 average on profit.
It costs you $5 to acquire the customer.
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This sounds like a deal
Mark Cuban should put some money into.
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-[laughing]
-[David] We-- No, no.
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So once we have the user, we have
70 percent retention rate. So our users--
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The only way you grow
is they abuse the law more and more.
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-They constantly get more parking tickets.
-No, it's the other way around.
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-No.
-They get abused by the law.
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On average, our users get about
six parking tickets a year.
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I'm not worried
about the cost side of this.
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I don't think there's gonna be
enough people to use it, ultimately.
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I think it's hard for you
to find the users,
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and frankly, I'm an investor in Uber.
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-Yeah.
-And Uber has shown
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-that car ownership is going away.
-[David] Okay.
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You've got a shrinking market
you're addressing.
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Okay, but let me paint
this vision for you.
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Parking tickets alone is about
a $500 million opportunity for us.
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Speeding tickets and moving violations,
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that's another $3 to $4 billion
opportunity for us.
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You're going to get people off
of speeding tickets as well?
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Correct.
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For most people, it's the same thing.
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There's a lot of issues and errors
in the ticket that they're unaware of.
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We want to help users basically handle
their moving violations more efficiently.
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There's $100 billion spent each year in
the U.S. by consumers on legal services.
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So we have acquired
40,000 users over a year.
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They sent us their traffic tickets.
They're like,
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-"I don't know what to do with this."
-Your business is bringing in customers...
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-Exactly.
-...that you can scale up
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-over a period of time.
-Exactly. We are--
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-I get it, and it's clever.
-[David] Yeah.
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How is that worth $14 million today?
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Okay, so I'll-- I'll break it down.
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If we continue the growth we have
with parking tickets
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to the end of this year, we'll be
at an $11 million revenue run rate.
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You're gonna go from 80,000 now
to 11 million next year?
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At a run rate by the end of next year.
Since January this year,
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we've been growing
at 33 percent month over month.
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If my three-year-old continues to grow
at the same rate she's growing now,
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she's gonna be an eight-footer
within a few years
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-and she'll be playing in the WNBA.
-[chuckles]
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We haven't gone into traffic
and other moving violations yet.
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-How much have you raised?
-We've raised $1.8 million in total.
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-At what value?
-That's not bad.
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Uh, the last round
was at a $10 million cap.
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Wow!
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Let me ask you a question, David,
philosophically.
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Your basic premise is
you build out to other services,
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you're gonna shrink government revenues.
That's basically it.
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What do you think the chances are
you're gonna get audited a lot?
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[laughing]
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Uh, David, listen,
I'm not buying the scale
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from 80,000
to 11 million run rate next year.
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I'm out.
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Here's my problem with it, okay?
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I'm in the mutual fund business.
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I'm the most regulated guy in the world.
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The government looks
at my business every day.
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They let me make money
because I stay compliant.
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Yeah.
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I don't think I want
to invest in a business
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that goes to war
with government revenue.
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-I just think it's bad karma for me.
-[laughing]
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-I'm out.
-Okay.
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The problem for me
is you're asking for $700,000
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-for a five percent equity stake.
-It's a steal.
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I think you're, like...
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-just climbing the mountain of this.
-Mm-hmm.
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It's a good idea,
but I don't think you're there yet,
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and I can't wrap my hands around
if it's gonna really work or not.
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And for that reason, I'm out.
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Look, I know the size of the market
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of traffic ticket
and ambulance-chasing lawyers...
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-Yeah.
-How much money they spend...
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-Yeah.
-...to acquire customers.
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It's a huge market,
and I don't think anyone's nailed it
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in the app business yet.
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But for me,
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placing a bet on this business
is placing a bet against Uber.
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I think car ownership goes away,
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and I think pretty soon
we're gonna have automated drivers,
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we're gonna have
robotic cars going around,
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and that's where I wanna be
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is investing in the future,
not in the present.
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So for that reason, I'm out.
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Okay.
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I don't agree with Chris that, you know,
car ownership is going away.
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Yeah, I don't buy that.
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Well, the guys in the Ferraris
don't buy it.
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No, I don't have a Ferrari.
I'm not a car guy.
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Look, I love the idea of kicking
the government up the ass.
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-Oh, that's such a bad idea.
-There's nothing I like more.
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We're in the same boat.
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-[Mark] Nothing I like--
-Wait.
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But this is the money
that actually builds the roads,
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funds the libraries,
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-builds the homeless shelters.
-Oh, wait.
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You wanna be on that side?
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This from the person that says,
"You know what? No more cars,"
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which means no more tax money from that,
no more sales tax.
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You're considering this a tax.
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This is the most regressive tax
that is out there.
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-I completely agree.
-The people getting parking tickets
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are not the people with Ferraris
you can put in a garage,
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but people who don't have a garage
who need their car for their job.
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-It is the most regressive tax.
-Amen. Amen.
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What are you doing, Mark? Yes or no?
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-[Mark] Um...
-On or off, up or down?
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So the concept of us
standing out there and saying,
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"You know what,
the government has come after you
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because you can't afford a garage
because--" I love that idea.
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-Yeah, it's great.
-I think operationally,
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there's some challenges
in order to scale far more quickly
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that I can help you with.
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So, what I'll offer you
is your $700,000...
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for seven percent, right?
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And we can structure
that extra two percent
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as advisory fees, whatever you want.
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That makes it a flat round,
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which is not great
for our existing investors.
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Not if it's two percent for advisory fees.
It's not a flat round.
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That means you put no value on a Shark.
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Well, we've progressed a ton since we--
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-[Mark] That's fine.
-Okay, so--
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And you're gonna progress even more
when I get involved.
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I get that.
But I wanna make sure that I have you on--
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Like, two percent is a lot, a lot.
I wanna make sure that that's time--
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You can e-mail me anytime night or day,
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and you're gonna get a return e-mail
from me almost immediately.
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[Kevin] What are you gonna do?
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Make a decision.
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'Cause I think you're getting
a parking ticket outside right now.
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I wanna make sure that I have your word
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that we have, you know,
a full commitment from you
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and you're available
when we need you to help us out.
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Sure.
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-We have a deal.
-Done.
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[Lori chuckling]
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-Congratulations.
-Thank you very much.
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-It'll be worth it, trust me.
-I'm psyched about this.
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Good luck.
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-See you at the audit.
-[laughing]
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You just paid $700,000 for a company
doing $80,000 in revenue.
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I paid $300,000 for a company
with no revenue. It was called Uber.
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Interesting.
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[David] We have a big vision.
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Now that Mark is part of that vision,
it really is the sky's the limit.
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He's a contrarian thinker,
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and that's exactly what we need
on the team.
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[narrator] In season five,
Rob Dickens and Brad Scudder
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struck a deal with Mark Cuban
for their events company Rugged Races.
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We'd like to strike a deal with you,
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-1.75 million for the 25 percent.
-Deal.
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[narrator] Let's see
what they're up to now.
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[air horn blowing]
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We've been working like maniacs
since we made our deal on Shark Tank.
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Mark Cuban invested $1.75 million
in our company,
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and that's allowed us
to really accelerate our growth.
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We've expanded to 28 cities,
and our attendance has exploded.
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Over 200,000 people
have now registered for our races,
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and we're getting as many
as 18,000 people out to a single event.
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This has all translated
into huge sales for us.
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In the year before Shark Tank,
we had 4.2 million.
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After Shark Tank,
we've got $10.5 million in sales.
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All right, guys, here's the course map
for our New England event tomorrow.
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We've moved to new offices,
we've hired 20 new people.
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We've got a great space now
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that's really helping our creativity
and our production.
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-What's up, guys?
-How you doing, Mark?
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Saying that we are partners
with Mark Cuban opens doors.
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Where are we at with sponsors?
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I think we're gonna see 30 to 40 percent
growth going into next year.
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Venues now wanna work with us,
sponsors now wanna work with us.
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Having Mark on our team really gives us
a foot up on everybody else.
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Keep in touch, and congratulations, guys.
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-Thanks, Mark. Good to see you.
-Thanks a lot.
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Good job, guys. Good job.
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We have a lot of big things
planned for the future.
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We've already expanded into Canada.
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We have a new event series
called Costume Dash 5K
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and we're looking at other
event production opportunities as well.
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When people think
of obstacle course racing,
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we want them to think Rugged Maniac.
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We want to be the pinnacle of the sport.
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-Maniacs!
-[cheering]
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-I'm Ann.
-And I'm Dave.
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And we live in Palo Alto, California,
with our kids Maya, Derek, and Ben.
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Our kids are absolutely
the center of our world.
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Becoming a parent is amazing,
but is also scary.
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-So close.
-Yay!
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When my daughter Maya was born
I tried to breastfeed her,
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but I realized
that she was losing too much weight.
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I was really anxious,
and I took her to the doctor regularly
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to make sure she was growing
and that she was okay.
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We know how scary it is
to bring a baby home from the hospital
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and to not know how she's developing.
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We want to help ease some of those
worries that every new parent has.
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[Dave] We have a lot of knowledge
in the baby industry,
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but we've never sold
a physical product before.
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We want the Sharks
because we've seen the power
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of what they can do for businesses,
and we are absolutely thrilled
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to get the chance to pitch to them.
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-Hi. My name is Ann Crady-Weiss.
-And I'm her husband, Dave Weiss.
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[Dave] And together,
we're the co-founders of Hatch Baby.
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We are seeking $250,000
for 2.5 percent of our company.
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-Becoming a new parent is full of wonder.
-And worry.
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It is scary to bring a new infant
home from the hospital
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and to blindly trust
that she's developing as she should.
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[Dave] The biggest predictor of infant
health in the early days is weight gain.
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Babies are checked at doctor's visits,
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but what about all the time
in between those visits?
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We're here to put parent's minds at ease.
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We developed the smart changing pad.
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It's a modern redesign
of the traditional diaper-changing pad
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found in every baby nursery.
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It has a built-in Wi-Fi enabled scale
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so that you can see
how much your baby weighs
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and tell how much you're nursing
during a feeding.
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All of the information syncs
to your smartphone.
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No matter who is taking care of your baby,
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you can check in anytime, anywhere,
and be ready to share
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all the information that you
and your pediatrician care about,
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and that leaves more time
for the good stuff.
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Sharks, please join us
in helping babies stay on track
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and parents stay sane.
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We welcome your questions.
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Interesting, because you're right.
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That product's been around for a long time
without any fundamental change,
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but do I really need to know
that level of detail every time?
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When I first became a mom 12 years ago,
I prepared a ton.
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And then I brought my baby home,
and I was terrified.
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I really wanted to breastfeed her,
but why was she crying?
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Was she crying
because she didn't have enough?
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Was she crying for another reason?
Why was she crying?
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And I know now that I'm not alone.
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More than 90 percent of moms
have anxiety in the first weeks.
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More than two-thirds of moms
don't meet their own breastfeeding goals
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because they're worried
about their supply.
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-How did the scale help?
-How does this track that?
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-[Kevin] Yeah.
-So the way it tracks it
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is, um, before you nurse,
you do your normal thing,
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you change your baby.
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You tap the feeding button,
records a weight.
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You go and you nurse your baby,
then you bring the baby back,
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touch the same button again,
put the baby down,
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it will tell you, you fed 2.75 ounces.
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-It's that sensitive a scale?
-It's that sensitive a scale.
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That's the primary function of Hatch Baby,
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is to determine how much breast milk
the child is consuming?
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The primary function of Hatch Baby
is to reassure parents
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that their babies are developing
as they should be,
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and also to make sure that moms
can meet their own breastfeeding goals.
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-Have you sold any yet?
-We have not sold any.
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This is in preproduction.
So we launched our website last week.
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We're doing pre-sales
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-in the coming weeks.
-Last week?
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And we will have product shipping to moms
in the coming month.
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So you've got a $10 million valuation
on the pre-revenue, pre-nothing.
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-And we'd love to tell you why.
-Oh, we wanna hear it. [laughs]
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-[laughs] I bet you do.
-I really wanna hear this.
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We are experienced entrepreneurs
and executives in this industry.
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So I started a company
that I sold to Johnson & Johnson.
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Johnson & Johnson
has a division called BabyCenter.
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Forty million moms worldwide
use BabyCenter.
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Dave and I met at BabyCenter,
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and between the two of us
we ran everything consumer-facing.
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We ran product, editorial, design,
engineering, and marketing.
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It is literally the place you go
for answers in this space.
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So, you know, I have two young girls
and one more on the way,
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and that's where you go.
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You're freaked out, you need an answer.
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You wanna know what to do
about this fever, or that color poop,
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-you're going to BabyCenter.
-Yeah.
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So you've got great experience.
Sold me on that. Check.
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So, to go on about the valuation,
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The way we got to it
is we went back to the same investors
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who funded my last company.
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We raised $1.7 million
on a convertible note last September,
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when this was essentially concept phase.
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What makes you think it has legs?
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Well, our experience
from BabyCenter tells us,
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um, that this is a product that moms want.
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There's a lot more information
you want to track
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other than just things
that are weight-based.
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Absolutely, and we see the future.
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We see there absolutely will be
a smart nursery and--
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One of the things
I think you've missed is that,
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apart from just dealing with the anxiety,
there's just the vanity
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and the geeky desire
to aggregate all this data.
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-I could get a sensitive scale...
-You could weigh a baby.
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...and I could weigh the child
before and after.
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Oh, and there's--
I'm sure there's Bluetooth-based scales
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that connect to an app.
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[Kevin] Talk about this product.
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Price to make it,
what you're gonna sell it for.
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So to make it, it costs $89,
and we'll sell it for $299.
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Wow.
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And the price is in line with other
premium baby products out there.
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I'm just trying to understand
for the average family
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-that makes $33,000 a year...
-Right.
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...can I really get $250 worth
of value from a scale?
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Some wanna pay more because this
is the health and safety of their baby.
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00:19:00,606 --> 00:19:04,476
But also, we can look at other comparables
like the stroller market.
404
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You look at, you know, 20 years ago,
strollers were a utility.
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We use them to push our kids around.
Now they are...
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You know, $500 is the minimum,
and they are selling like hotcakes.
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00:19:13,919 --> 00:19:15,921
You have so much credibility
in this space.
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It's like, the analogy would be
a great recording artist.
409
00:19:19,658 --> 00:19:22,694
-Gets a huge hit album, you know?
-[chuckling]
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And then the next album, five tracks suck.
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-You just don't know.
-[laughs]
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So, we disagree.
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-I know I--
-[Kevin] Of course we disagree.
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But, you know, this is a scale.
A $300 scale, that is--
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You could say that a Fitbit
was a $100 pedometer.
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They're about to IPO
for a billion dollars,
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and we're backed by the same people.
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The baby market
time and time again has shown
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that price is not what parents
are concerned about.
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-I agree.
-There's any time in your entire life
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that you will throw your budget
out the window, it is for your baby.
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How are you gonna get it to market?
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At first, we're exclusively selling online
on our site.
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And so, what do you think
you're gonna sell in the first year?
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In the first year, we forecast
we're gonna sell 20,000 units.
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-Twenty-thousand units?
-What's the revenue of that?
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Six million dollars.
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You're gonna go to 20,000 units
first year?
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-Yes.
-We think it's a tiny fraction
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of one percent
of the changing pad market.
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00:20:15,948 --> 00:20:18,350
-We think--
-It is, but it's optimistic.
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The challenge is whether your device
will win in that competition
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with all the other devices.
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I'm not buying that it is.
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There's no question that there are
other players in the smart baby market,
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but absolutely someone will win,
and who would you rather make a bet on?
437
00:20:35,634 --> 00:20:37,769
-You know what Mike Tyson said, right?
-No.
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00:20:37,836 --> 00:20:39,805
Everybody has a plan
until they get punched in the face.
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I see the value, but I don't know
if that's a feature of some other product
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or it's enough to carry it on its own,
and for those reasons, I'm going out.
441
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Past success is not always an indicator
for future success.
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-So--
-I just don't buy
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into this $300 changing table.
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I'm out.
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00:21:03,662 --> 00:21:06,832
I've been in the product arena
for a very, very long time
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and I do think that while people
may like it and they may want to buy it,
447
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not everybody across America
can afford a $300 changing table.
448
00:21:16,241 --> 00:21:19,544
I'm not sure it's a big enough problem
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where people will really stretch out
of their budgets that far to buy it.
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And so for that reason, I'm out.
451
00:21:28,687 --> 00:21:31,323
I don't think this thing is going to be
as successful as you suggest
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because I don't think
America can afford it.
453
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And for your valuation,
you have to pretty well
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have everybody say,
"I have to have a Hatch Baby."
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I think this is your third album,
and it's not so good.
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We do want a Shark on--
I mean, we want a Shark--
457
00:21:44,469 --> 00:21:47,205
-We do want a Shark on our team.
-It won't be me because I'm out.
458
00:21:49,875 --> 00:21:52,511
Four Sharks are out. Chris Sacca's left.
459
00:21:53,345 --> 00:21:55,380
And he's the target market.
He has a child on the way.
460
00:21:56,148 --> 00:21:58,884
I'm looking at this,
and I like smart nursery,
461
00:21:58,950 --> 00:22:01,453
I like changing table as a platform.
462
00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:05,757
I completely identify with that anxiety
in the early days of bringing a kid home.
463
00:22:05,824 --> 00:22:09,461
The issue you're solving
is a relatively short-term issue,
464
00:22:09,528 --> 00:22:12,431
and so what I worry about is you haven't
built something that has longevity,
465
00:22:12,497 --> 00:22:15,667
that makes this thing
necessary and indispensable
466
00:22:15,734 --> 00:22:17,703
to justify that kind of ticket item.
467
00:22:17,769 --> 00:22:20,005
I'd be very interested in the other things
that go in the room.
468
00:22:20,072 --> 00:22:22,974
The monitoring, the temperature taking,
the heart rate--
469
00:22:23,041 --> 00:22:25,444
This is the opportunity
to get in early before we get there.
470
00:22:25,510 --> 00:22:27,612
Yeah. So I love to get in early
in companies.
471
00:22:28,447 --> 00:22:30,782
I got into Uber at a $3 million valuation,
472
00:22:30,849 --> 00:22:33,919
and that's why at a $50 billion valuation
I'm feeling really good about it.
473
00:22:35,454 --> 00:22:37,622
But we already had cars on the road,
474
00:22:37,689 --> 00:22:39,558
there were users on the service.
It was working.
475
00:22:40,225 --> 00:22:44,996
Uh, this at the prototype stage
I think this is overvalued. I'm out.
476
00:22:46,932 --> 00:22:50,936
I'm so sorry to hear that,
but I do wanna take one more shot.
477
00:22:51,837 --> 00:22:53,872
We believe in this business.
478
00:22:53,939 --> 00:22:55,640
We put our heart and soul
into this business.
479
00:22:55,707 --> 00:22:59,478
We do think that we're worth $10 million
and we know that we can get the money,
480
00:22:59,544 --> 00:23:03,715
but the reality is we know
what you guys do for companies.
481
00:23:03,782 --> 00:23:04,649
We want you guys,
482
00:23:04,716 --> 00:23:06,718
-and so if valuation is a concern--
-Well, I--
483
00:23:06,785 --> 00:23:10,288
We would love to find a way
to be creative. Here is an idea.
484
00:23:10,355 --> 00:23:15,093
We raised money last September.
We have $250,000 left on that note.
485
00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:17,062
We would love to bring you guys in
on that note.
486
00:23:17,129 --> 00:23:20,565
We'll give you the same terms as we gave
people when it was concept phase.
487
00:23:20,632 --> 00:23:24,035
-The first money in.
-What was the valuation?
488
00:23:24,102 --> 00:23:27,539
Well, it's on a convertible note,
so it's a $7.5 million cap.
489
00:23:27,606 --> 00:23:28,907
We're here to make a deal.
490
00:23:28,974 --> 00:23:33,245
We believe that with you guys as partners,
this can get to every parent.
491
00:23:37,182 --> 00:23:41,586
I'll do the 250k under the terms
of the convertible note.
492
00:23:43,054 --> 00:23:45,090
But I wanna make sure
I'm on the same terms
493
00:23:45,157 --> 00:23:47,859
as all the other investors
who lead the deal at the series.
494
00:23:50,829 --> 00:23:51,696
Is that a done deal?
495
00:23:53,098 --> 00:23:55,033
-Yes! Absolutely!
-All right.
496
00:23:55,100 --> 00:23:56,201
-Congratulations, Chris.
-Congratulations.
497
00:23:56,268 --> 00:23:58,069
We've heard amazing,
amazing things about you.
498
00:23:58,136 --> 00:24:00,338
-Thank you so much.
-Yeah. Right on, man.
499
00:24:00,405 --> 00:24:02,507
-Congratulations.
-Congratulations, guys.
500
00:24:02,574 --> 00:24:03,642
-[Lori] Good luck.
-Thank you.
501
00:24:06,344 --> 00:24:07,879
-[laughs]
-[Dave] We couldn't be happier.
502
00:24:07,946 --> 00:24:10,816
Chris is a new dad.
We love his investment profile.
503
00:24:10,882 --> 00:24:12,551
We've seen what he can do to companies.
504
00:24:12,617 --> 00:24:15,454
He's Twitter, he's Uber,
he's... he's amazing.
505
00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:17,989
-We're so glad to have him as a partner.
-Totally.
506
00:24:23,028 --> 00:24:25,797
[narrator] Next up is a business
that hopes to ease the pain
507
00:24:25,864 --> 00:24:27,332
of paying for college.
508
00:24:35,340 --> 00:24:36,775
Hello, Sharks.
509
00:24:36,842 --> 00:24:39,110
-My name is Antonio Adams.
-And I'm Tasha Adams.
510
00:24:39,177 --> 00:24:41,146
-And we're twins.
-From Denver, Colorado.
511
00:24:41,213 --> 00:24:43,114
Our company is Village Scholarships.
512
00:24:43,181 --> 00:24:46,351
And we're here today seeking $125,000
513
00:24:46,418 --> 00:24:48,720
in exchange for ten percent equity
of our company.
514
00:24:48,787 --> 00:24:52,624
Getting accepted into college
is a big deal.
515
00:24:52,691 --> 00:24:55,627
-But figuring out how to pay for it...
-Is an ordeal.
516
00:24:55,694 --> 00:24:59,097
But what if there was a solution to solve
future student debt that was both...
517
00:24:59,164 --> 00:25:01,099
-Viable and profitable?
-Yes.
518
00:25:01,166 --> 00:25:03,468
Well, there is with Village Scholarships.
519
00:25:03,535 --> 00:25:05,604
It's where matchmaking meets
a new type of crowd funding
520
00:25:05,670 --> 00:25:08,206
that forms homemade scholarships
funded by...
521
00:25:08,273 --> 00:25:10,075
-People you know...
-And matched by...
522
00:25:10,141 --> 00:25:12,410
-People who care.
-Anyone interested
523
00:25:12,477 --> 00:25:14,412
in helping college students
achieve their college dream
524
00:25:14,479 --> 00:25:16,615
can contribute to their college fund.
525
00:25:16,681 --> 00:25:17,782
[both] It's that easy.
526
00:25:17,849 --> 00:25:19,384
[Antonio] Here's how it works.
527
00:25:19,451 --> 00:25:21,786
Students come to our website,
and they create a profile.
528
00:25:21,853 --> 00:25:25,490
You simply input your institution,
your major, and your tuition goal,
529
00:25:25,557 --> 00:25:27,859
and you share your profile
with your select family or friends
530
00:25:27,926 --> 00:25:29,594
or your entire social network.
531
00:25:29,661 --> 00:25:31,096
After the completion
of a student's campaigns,
532
00:25:31,162 --> 00:25:34,633
their funds will be directly transferred
to their university accounts.
533
00:25:34,699 --> 00:25:38,103
-Sharks, help us make a difference...
-[both] And join the village today.
534
00:25:38,169 --> 00:25:42,641
Isn't that really just a way for family
and friends to give somebody money?
535
00:25:42,707 --> 00:25:44,409
Uh, we're a traditional
crowd-funding website,
536
00:25:44,476 --> 00:25:47,312
but what differentiates us
is the matching fund opportunity.
537
00:25:47,379 --> 00:25:49,214
So the reason people solicit funds
from their family members
538
00:25:49,281 --> 00:25:51,416
is really to develop enough money
so they can match
539
00:25:51,483 --> 00:25:53,084
a scholarship fund with someone else.
540
00:25:53,151 --> 00:25:55,420
How many users have actually
entered the data into this?
541
00:25:55,487 --> 00:25:57,689
Well, currently at this time,
we have users that entered their data,
542
00:25:57,756 --> 00:25:59,324
but the website itself
is not completely finished--
543
00:25:59,391 --> 00:26:01,560
-So this is a concept.
-So you're just starting?
544
00:26:01,626 --> 00:26:03,995
-Yes, we are just starting.
-[Lori] So just starting, it's a concept.
545
00:26:04,062 --> 00:26:06,298
-You haven't really gotten--
-Ah, it's a concept. There we go.
546
00:26:06,364 --> 00:26:08,967
-And you haven't made any money yet.
-No.
547
00:26:09,034 --> 00:26:13,505
-Isn't it really just a way to donate?
-Yes.
548
00:26:13,572 --> 00:26:14,606
It's not really a business.
549
00:26:15,373 --> 00:26:17,642
Well, they're gonna take a percentage
at some point, right?
550
00:26:17,709 --> 00:26:20,779
Yes, we're-- It's gonna be based
on the traditional service and fees.
551
00:26:20,845 --> 00:26:22,113
What's your fee gonna be?
552
00:26:22,180 --> 00:26:25,283
The fee is 8.5 percent on the completion
of a student's campaign.
553
00:26:25,350 --> 00:26:26,618
-Damn.
-[Antonio] And the reason--
554
00:26:26,685 --> 00:26:29,187
-That's actually standard commission--
-I don't think so. Wow.
555
00:26:29,254 --> 00:26:30,655
That's the standard commission fee
for crowd funding.
556
00:26:30,722 --> 00:26:32,624
The difference
between a crowd-funding site,
557
00:26:32,691 --> 00:26:33,959
you know, for, like, Kickstarter--
558
00:26:34,025 --> 00:26:37,095
I'm an investor in Kickstarter.
It brings distribution to your projects.
559
00:26:37,162 --> 00:26:39,030
So if nobody's heard
of your project before,
560
00:26:39,097 --> 00:26:41,232
you put it there, it gets featured.
561
00:26:41,299 --> 00:26:45,236
What happens here, though,
is that the majority of your fundraising
562
00:26:45,303 --> 00:26:46,771
is coming from people you know.
563
00:26:46,838 --> 00:26:50,642
People that are either friends, family,
or maybe one degree away from you.
564
00:26:50,709 --> 00:26:53,712
And so that fee that you're taking
starts to feel huge,
565
00:26:53,778 --> 00:26:57,182
and you're not really bringing anything
to the table that they don't already have.
566
00:26:57,248 --> 00:26:59,551
Well, actually, currently with websites,
like our major competitor
567
00:26:59,618 --> 00:27:00,685
would be, like, a GoFundMe.
568
00:27:00,752 --> 00:27:04,389
They've in the last three years alone
seen a 4,500 percent increase in raising--
569
00:27:04,456 --> 00:27:05,323
Fundraising for college tuition alone.
570
00:27:05,390 --> 00:27:08,360
But Chris hit the nail on the head.
They bring people with money
571
00:27:08,426 --> 00:27:09,594
to people without money.
572
00:27:10,662 --> 00:27:13,798
What is the primary competitive
advantage of this site?
573
00:27:13,865 --> 00:27:15,367
[Antonio] Competitive advantage
of this site
574
00:27:15,433 --> 00:27:18,003
is actually the matching fund aspect.
575
00:27:18,069 --> 00:27:22,807
You're saying that the primary advantage
is that strangers will match funds.
576
00:27:22,874 --> 00:27:24,109
Am I getting that right?
577
00:27:24,175 --> 00:27:27,479
The fundamentals of the website is,
we'll first start with crowd funding.
578
00:27:27,545 --> 00:27:31,683
An individual would recruit friends
or family to the website to solicit funds.
579
00:27:31,750 --> 00:27:33,218
-That's what they would bring themselves.
-Yes.
580
00:27:33,284 --> 00:27:35,286
That's where, on our end,
we're recruiting and we're building out
581
00:27:35,353 --> 00:27:38,590
a network of individuals that already
create scholarships on their own.
582
00:27:38,657 --> 00:27:42,260
So this becomes their platform.
They elect to use this one to gift.
583
00:27:42,327 --> 00:27:45,163
Yes, and allowing people, individuals
like yourself or myself to say,
584
00:27:45,230 --> 00:27:48,566
"I want to create a $5 scholarship
to this category so that anyone
585
00:27:48,633 --> 00:27:51,136
that matches these criteria
can then match their funds with me."
586
00:27:51,202 --> 00:27:53,004
How did you guys pay for college?
587
00:27:53,071 --> 00:27:55,373
I, during undergrad, received a full ride
588
00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:57,208
in optical engineering
at Norfolk State University.
589
00:27:57,275 --> 00:27:59,344
And then I have a fellowship
590
00:27:59,411 --> 00:28:01,079
at the University of Arizona
for Optical Science.
591
00:28:01,146 --> 00:28:02,414
-And what's your background?
-Very interesting.
592
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:05,216
My background is I've started
three start-up companies in my past,
593
00:28:05,283 --> 00:28:07,352
but also,
I'm a former college basketball player.
594
00:28:07,419 --> 00:28:10,755
And how the idea came to fruition
is I lost two athletic scholarships
595
00:28:10,822 --> 00:28:12,190
due to season-ending injuries.
596
00:28:12,257 --> 00:28:17,862
You have to either have a lot of donors
or you have to have a lot of applicants.
597
00:28:17,929 --> 00:28:21,866
Because the value to donors is you have
a very large base of applicants,
598
00:28:21,933 --> 00:28:24,302
and the value to the applicants
is "I'm gonna get money
599
00:28:24,369 --> 00:28:25,837
besides family and friends."
600
00:28:25,904 --> 00:28:29,808
I don't buy that the friends and family
are gonna pay you eight percent,
601
00:28:29,874 --> 00:28:32,243
to donate the money
they could give you directly.
602
00:28:32,310 --> 00:28:34,279
The market actually says otherwise
in some respects.
603
00:28:34,345 --> 00:28:37,248
Hundreds of thousands of students
are currently already using crowd funding,
604
00:28:37,315 --> 00:28:38,850
knowing there's a fee
already on top of it.
605
00:28:38,917 --> 00:28:41,086
Look, you can't charge 8.5 percent.
It's not gonna happen.
606
00:28:41,152 --> 00:28:42,020
Okay.
607
00:28:42,087 --> 00:28:44,789
Uh, I'm already invested
in Honeyfund and Plumfund,
608
00:28:44,856 --> 00:28:47,525
which is competing with you
on a broader scale.
609
00:28:47,592 --> 00:28:49,427
Doesn't mean you won't be successful,
610
00:28:49,494 --> 00:28:51,763
but it means I'm not gonna invest
in a competitor, obviously.
611
00:28:51,830 --> 00:28:52,697
-Understand.
-Understandable.
612
00:28:52,764 --> 00:28:55,200
For that reason, and with full respect
to you guys, I'm out.
613
00:28:57,268 --> 00:28:58,937
You know, I think the idea has merit.
614
00:28:59,003 --> 00:29:01,973
I think you guys spent
a lot of time thinking about it.
615
00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:05,610
There's something there,
but I'm not clear how it's gonna work.
616
00:29:05,677 --> 00:29:06,678
I'm out.
617
00:29:07,879 --> 00:29:12,250
Last year, Daymond and I invested
in the Scholly scholarship app,
618
00:29:12,317 --> 00:29:13,785
and it's doing really well,
619
00:29:13,852 --> 00:29:16,087
and it's helping a lot of people
get connected with scholarships.
620
00:29:16,788 --> 00:29:18,656
This is interesting to me
because in some ways,
621
00:29:18,723 --> 00:29:23,128
maybe we could do something
that integrates the two together.
622
00:29:24,195 --> 00:29:28,767
But you're just at the beginning stages.
Like, you haven't started yet.
623
00:29:30,168 --> 00:29:32,103
So for that reason, I'm out.
624
00:29:33,605 --> 00:29:37,175
You know, I'm seeing
four different businesses pitched.
625
00:29:37,242 --> 00:29:39,444
I'm seeing a platform
where friends and family
626
00:29:39,511 --> 00:29:41,880
can give to a student's
college experience.
627
00:29:41,946 --> 00:29:46,351
I'm seeing a platform
where strangers can give directly
628
00:29:46,417 --> 00:29:49,954
to a student's education
the way that a GoFundMe site goes.
629
00:29:50,021 --> 00:29:52,624
I'm seeing a platform
for setting up a scholarship,
630
00:29:52,690 --> 00:29:54,492
whether an individual or foundation.
631
00:29:54,559 --> 00:29:57,829
I'm seeing a platform where a student
can come and find scholarships
632
00:29:57,896 --> 00:30:01,299
that they might be eligible for that were
set up by an individual or foundation.
633
00:30:01,366 --> 00:30:05,069
All four of those things
are interesting ideas.
634
00:30:05,136 --> 00:30:07,539
I don't think you can tackle
all four of them.
635
00:30:07,605 --> 00:30:10,041
Without that kind of focus, I'm out.
636
00:30:12,210 --> 00:30:14,345
I apologize for making it confusing
637
00:30:14,412 --> 00:30:16,447
by not addressing it
in a more organized manner,
638
00:30:16,514 --> 00:30:20,118
-but we do have a plan.
-The problem is, you came too early.
639
00:30:20,185 --> 00:30:23,021
If you had already gone
through that process
640
00:30:23,087 --> 00:30:27,325
of turning it in from idea,
to plan, to tangible,
641
00:30:27,392 --> 00:30:28,793
I think you'd have a shot,
642
00:30:28,860 --> 00:30:31,529
but you're not there yet,
and for those reasons, I'm out.
643
00:30:33,064 --> 00:30:34,732
-We sincerely appreciate your time.
-Thank you, guys.
644
00:30:34,799 --> 00:30:36,034
And thank you for your feedback,
645
00:30:36,100 --> 00:30:38,136
and we will make sure
we take it constructively
646
00:30:38,203 --> 00:30:39,437
-and improve our company.
-Thank you.
647
00:30:39,504 --> 00:30:41,039
-[Mark] Thank you so much.
-Yeah. Good luck.
648
00:30:44,742 --> 00:30:45,944
You can't get eight percent for it.
649
00:30:46,010 --> 00:30:47,545
-You hit a ceiling at one percent.
-Doesn't matter.
650
00:30:47,612 --> 00:30:49,547
They're not even to the point
where it's even relevant.
651
00:30:49,614 --> 00:30:51,916
-The business model is--
-Ideas are cheap. Execution is everything.
652
00:30:57,021 --> 00:31:00,725
[narrator] Next into the Tank is a product
designed to maintain domestic bliss.
653
00:31:10,068 --> 00:31:13,104
Good day, Sharks.
I am King Nicholas Galekovic...
654
00:31:13,171 --> 00:31:15,173
-[Mark laughing]
-...protector of the face follicles.
655
00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:19,377
And I am Queen Alessia Galekovic,
the queen of the kingdom.
656
00:31:19,444 --> 00:31:21,746
And together,
we are the founders of Beard King.
657
00:31:21,813 --> 00:31:26,718
We are seeking $100,000
for 20 percent of our entire kingdom.
658
00:31:26,784 --> 00:31:31,155
So, Sharks, as long as there's been men,
there's been facial hair.
659
00:31:31,222 --> 00:31:34,525
Now, whether that's a beard,
mustache, sideburns,
660
00:31:34,592 --> 00:31:38,563
or any facial hair for that matter,
we all have one problem in common.
661
00:31:38,630 --> 00:31:42,467
The fact is grooming facial hair
can be a very messy
662
00:31:42,533 --> 00:31:44,903
and time-consuming task.
663
00:31:44,969 --> 00:31:49,040
So imagine all those disgusting
little hairs all over your sink,
664
00:31:49,107 --> 00:31:51,509
all over your counter, all over your soap,
all over your toothbrush,
665
00:31:51,576 --> 00:31:53,578
eventually clogging your sink.
666
00:31:53,645 --> 00:31:57,749
But most importantly,
guess who has to clean that up?
667
00:31:57,815 --> 00:31:59,617
-Me.
-You sound exactly like my wife.
668
00:31:59,684 --> 00:32:00,718
-[Alessia] Thank you.
-Yes.
669
00:32:00,785 --> 00:32:03,454
-[laughs]
-Exactly. Now, Lord O'Leary,
670
00:32:03,521 --> 00:32:09,694
I know you once related to this madness
with your once almighty beard.
671
00:32:09,761 --> 00:32:11,496
-[Lori] You had a beard?
-[Kevin] Oh!
672
00:32:11,562 --> 00:32:13,364
-[laughing]
-[Kevin] Oh!
673
00:32:13,431 --> 00:32:16,100
That's Kevin? No way!
674
00:32:16,167 --> 00:32:18,569
-[Kevin] Just a beautiful-looking guy.
-[laughing]
675
00:32:18,636 --> 00:32:23,241
And, as you know, with a great beard
comes great responsibility.
676
00:32:23,308 --> 00:32:27,045
And we have invented the solution
for this very hairy situation.
677
00:32:27,111 --> 00:32:31,683
Lords and ladies, presenting
the world's first and only grooming tool
678
00:32:31,749 --> 00:32:35,353
that eliminates manual clean up
and allows for an easy disposal.
679
00:32:35,420 --> 00:32:38,456
The beard bib. And here's how it works.
680
00:32:39,223 --> 00:32:41,326
[narrator on TV]
Pull the contents out of the pouch.
681
00:32:41,392 --> 00:32:42,794
Attach the neck straps.
682
00:32:43,761 --> 00:32:46,898
Stick the suction cups to the mirror,
then move the levers down.
683
00:32:46,965 --> 00:32:48,700
-[laughing]
- Perform your normal grooming regimen.
684
00:32:48,766 --> 00:32:49,867
[Robert] Oh, you're not serious!
685
00:32:49,934 --> 00:32:52,770
Once completed,
flip the suction cup units up and remove.
686
00:32:52,837 --> 00:32:54,305
Lower over the trash can
and gently shake.
687
00:32:55,306 --> 00:32:56,874
-Yep.
-So...
688
00:32:56,941 --> 00:32:58,309
Seriously?
689
00:32:58,376 --> 00:32:59,444
-[laughs]
-[Alessia] Yes.
690
00:33:00,311 --> 00:33:01,879
-Are you guys together?
-[Alessia] We're married.
691
00:33:01,946 --> 00:33:03,147
-[Nicholas] Yes.
-Okay.
692
00:33:03,214 --> 00:33:04,582
So this comes up.
This isn't a hypothetical.
693
00:33:04,649 --> 00:33:06,617
-Real-life situation.
-This is how we came up with it.
694
00:33:06,684 --> 00:33:08,886
He would always make a mess.
I'm a neat freak.
695
00:33:08,953 --> 00:33:10,221
-I was sick of it.
-[Nicholas] Right.
696
00:33:10,288 --> 00:33:12,423
-[Alessia] It was a constant battle.
-Have you sold any of these?
697
00:33:12,490 --> 00:33:13,524
-[Alessia] Yes.
-[Nicholas] Oh, of course.
698
00:33:13,591 --> 00:33:17,161
To date, we have $140,000 in sales
just in eight months.
699
00:33:17,228 --> 00:33:18,162
[Mark] Wow.
[clapping]
700
00:33:18,229 --> 00:33:19,130
-Yeah.
-[Alessia] Thank you.
701
00:33:19,197 --> 00:33:21,399
Just last month, we did $80,000 in sales.
702
00:33:21,466 --> 00:33:23,634
How? How did you do $80,000
in a single month?
703
00:33:23,701 --> 00:33:27,638
Our video went viral on social media.
We had over 20 million views.
704
00:33:27,705 --> 00:33:28,773
-[laughing]
-[Nicholas] Seriously.
705
00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:30,742
-Our, our strength--
-That video you showed us?
706
00:33:30,808 --> 00:33:32,310
-Yes, that video there.
-Yes, it was hysterical.
707
00:33:32,377 --> 00:33:36,014
So our background and our strength,
for me, is brand development.
708
00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:38,483
So I create all the content,
we did all the branding,
709
00:33:38,549 --> 00:33:39,751
we did everything ourselves.
710
00:33:39,817 --> 00:33:42,153
And so by word of mouth
people are catching onto it,
711
00:33:42,220 --> 00:33:44,389
and every day
it just keeps growing and growing.
712
00:33:44,455 --> 00:33:46,290
How much does it cost you?
What's your profit?
713
00:33:46,357 --> 00:33:51,863
We just last month, got our costs down
to $7, and we sell it for $29.
714
00:33:51,929 --> 00:33:53,164
-[Lori] Wow.
-Good margins, good margins.
715
00:33:53,231 --> 00:33:55,933
-The margins are good--
-They can get even better with your help.
716
00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:58,302
With your help,
we can get the margin to about--
717
00:33:58,369 --> 00:34:00,338
-Can we see the packaging?
-[Alessia] Of course.
718
00:34:00,405 --> 00:34:02,507
Our packaging I love,
so you better love.
719
00:34:02,573 --> 00:34:04,509
-[Lori chuckles]
-Wow. I'm scared not to love it.
720
00:34:04,575 --> 00:34:07,678
Is there anything to stop anybody else
from making this?
721
00:34:07,745 --> 00:34:10,314
-It is patent pending.
-It's a patent on the utility--
722
00:34:10,381 --> 00:34:13,317
An apparatus attached to a mirror
around one's neck.
723
00:34:13,384 --> 00:34:15,853
Gotta tell you, when I first saw it,
I thought it was a joke,
724
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:20,992
but $140,000 in sales, 20 million views,
I mean, you're-- you're doing it.
725
00:34:22,326 --> 00:34:25,329
-[Robert] So why do you need the money?
-We need the money to scale manufacturing.
726
00:34:25,396 --> 00:34:28,132
See, that's our problem right now.
We can't keep up with the demand.
727
00:34:28,199 --> 00:34:29,534
[Mark] Wait, wait, wait.
728
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:32,470
-You sold $140,000, your margin--
-$80,000 last month alone.
729
00:34:32,537 --> 00:34:33,838
-Right.
-Correct.
730
00:34:33,905 --> 00:34:36,307
[Mark] Your margins are huge,
so you've got 75 percent margins.
731
00:34:36,374 --> 00:34:37,408
[Nicholas] Well, here's the thing.
732
00:34:37,475 --> 00:34:40,611
The first seven months,
our margins were only 40 percent.
733
00:34:40,678 --> 00:34:44,081
-Just right now, we got it to 75 percent.
-So you need the cash for...
734
00:34:44,148 --> 00:34:45,850
-For scaling manufacturing.
-For inventory.
735
00:34:46,651 --> 00:34:48,352
What's the projection for next year?
736
00:34:48,419 --> 00:34:50,521
400k conservatively on the growth rate
we're going.
737
00:34:50,588 --> 00:34:53,624
How are you gonna go
from the current sales to $400,000?
738
00:34:54,358 --> 00:34:55,393
[Lori] Have you talked to retailers?
739
00:34:55,460 --> 00:34:57,328
Have you tried to approach
a big box score?
740
00:34:57,395 --> 00:34:58,396
[Nicholas] Good question. Uh.
741
00:34:58,463 --> 00:35:02,100
We've actually been approached
by many wholesale and distributors,
742
00:35:02,166 --> 00:35:05,303
and we wanted to stay focused
on our online distribution channel,
743
00:35:05,369 --> 00:35:07,872
but, you know, with your help,
I think we can get there.
744
00:35:07,939 --> 00:35:10,908
Don't know if that's a good idea,
because you'll cut your margins in half...
745
00:35:10,975 --> 00:35:11,843
-Right.
-Correct.
746
00:35:11,909 --> 00:35:13,411
-...you'll own a lot of inventory.
-Correct.
747
00:35:13,478 --> 00:35:16,080
Here's my challenge with it.
You're doing great.
748
00:35:16,147 --> 00:35:18,382
Your margins are fantastic.
749
00:35:18,449 --> 00:35:22,620
You make enough margin
to bootstrap this thing.
750
00:35:22,687 --> 00:35:27,091
I don't know why you need
$100,000 today for inventory
751
00:35:27,158 --> 00:35:29,093
because you can do it on your own.
752
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:30,928
And that way, you can prove the scale.
753
00:35:30,995 --> 00:35:34,899
I'm just-- I'm not sure how my money
is going to accelerate this business.
754
00:35:34,966 --> 00:35:35,833
I'm out.
755
00:35:35,900 --> 00:35:37,301
-Thank you.
-Thank you very much.
756
00:35:37,368 --> 00:35:38,436
-[laughs]
-We appreciate your time.
757
00:35:39,337 --> 00:35:42,206
Look, when I look at a company,
I try to see what the core competency is.
758
00:35:42,273 --> 00:35:46,444
What is it that they're good at,
and how far can that take them?
759
00:35:46,511 --> 00:35:48,646
Really, what you've talked about
as your core competency
760
00:35:48,713 --> 00:35:50,615
is your ability to create content.
761
00:35:50,681 --> 00:35:54,385
If you were to come in here and said,
"You know what, this is our first product.
762
00:35:54,452 --> 00:35:56,587
We are so good at creating content.
763
00:35:56,654 --> 00:35:59,323
This is one example of a viral video
we created.
764
00:35:59,390 --> 00:36:02,293
Here's three other things
that we've done," I'd be interested.
765
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:05,363
We do. We have a beard,
a beard bib that's disposable.
766
00:36:05,429 --> 00:36:08,533
We wanna gain
as much sink share as we can
767
00:36:08,599 --> 00:36:09,734
-from the men's bathroom...
-That's our--
768
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:11,903
-We wanna do combs and oils, we have--
-[Chris] Sink share?
769
00:36:11,969 --> 00:36:13,304
-Sink share?
-[Nicholas] That's our key--
770
00:36:13,371 --> 00:36:14,238
That's your key metric?
771
00:36:14,305 --> 00:36:15,506
-[Alessia] Sink share, yes.
-[Nicholas] Sink share.
772
00:36:15,573 --> 00:36:21,012
What I'm saying is if this was the first
of many products of a wide scope,
773
00:36:21,078 --> 00:36:23,614
not just sink share,
but you are showing me
774
00:36:23,681 --> 00:36:27,785
you are the king of creating viral videos
to sell products,
775
00:36:27,852 --> 00:36:28,753
that would be interesting.
776
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:32,456
But that's not what you're trying
to sell me. I'm out.
777
00:36:34,592 --> 00:36:38,329
It's an interesting idea,
but it's not a company.
778
00:36:38,396 --> 00:36:40,531
It's a product. It's a beard diaper.
779
00:36:41,966 --> 00:36:43,534
Let's call it what it is.
780
00:36:43,601 --> 00:36:45,970
We have a disposable bib,
we have beard oils,
781
00:36:46,037 --> 00:36:48,272
-we have beard combs, we have apparel.
-But I think all that stuff,
782
00:36:48,339 --> 00:36:50,441
I can get it in 90,000 places.
783
00:36:50,508 --> 00:36:52,510
And we've had other companies up here
selling the same thing.
784
00:36:52,577 --> 00:36:54,478
Have you seen a beard bib before?
You haven't.
785
00:36:54,545 --> 00:36:58,115
-It's the first in its market. The first--
-No, no, but-- The bib thing, I get it.
786
00:36:58,182 --> 00:37:01,385
But it's a single product.
How would I get my money back?
787
00:37:02,553 --> 00:37:03,854
By investing in us.
788
00:37:03,921 --> 00:37:06,857
-No. Oh.
-[laughing]
789
00:37:07,625 --> 00:37:08,726
-Oh.
-[Nicholas] Well...
790
00:37:08,793 --> 00:37:11,095
You know, look, my beard days are over.
791
00:37:11,162 --> 00:37:14,298
Thank you for sharing the photo,
brought me down memory lane.
792
00:37:14,365 --> 00:37:15,433
But I'm out.
793
00:37:17,735 --> 00:37:19,470
I love the logo. I love the positioning.
794
00:37:20,371 --> 00:37:23,074
I am a company investor.
I build companies.
795
00:37:23,140 --> 00:37:25,676
I invest for the long term.
This is a product.
796
00:37:25,743 --> 00:37:28,512
I don't know
how I'd be that helpful to you.
797
00:37:28,579 --> 00:37:29,847
Unfortunately, I'm out.
798
00:37:30,581 --> 00:37:31,449
Okay, got you.
799
00:37:31,515 --> 00:37:33,584
-I'm very sad to hear that, I have to say.
-Oh.
800
00:37:33,651 --> 00:37:35,253
Well, there's... there's one Shark.
801
00:37:35,319 --> 00:37:36,387
-Lori.
-There's one beardless shark.
802
00:37:36,454 --> 00:37:37,521
-Queen Lori.
-One beardless Shark.
803
00:37:37,588 --> 00:37:40,658
I would like to share my crown with you.
804
00:37:40,725 --> 00:37:41,959
-Well...
-[Alessia chuckles]
805
00:37:42,026 --> 00:37:46,530
What's interesting to me
is that the women
806
00:37:46,597 --> 00:37:48,466
are left with the hair in the sink.
807
00:37:48,532 --> 00:37:51,269
-It's a common problem.
-Because there's really no solution.
808
00:37:51,869 --> 00:37:52,970
-Right.
-And women would buy it
809
00:37:53,037 --> 00:37:54,839
-to keep themselves happy.
-Over 60 percent
810
00:37:54,905 --> 00:37:56,540
of our customer base is women,
811
00:37:56,607 --> 00:38:00,244
women that have a boyfriend,
a husband, a son.
812
00:38:00,911 --> 00:38:02,647
I could see it making women happy.
813
00:38:03,648 --> 00:38:06,651
But I'm not quite sure
how well this will do--
814
00:38:06,717 --> 00:38:09,420
[Nicholas] Before you go out,
could you make us an offer then?
815
00:38:09,487 --> 00:38:11,188
-[laughing]
-What do you think--?
816
00:38:11,255 --> 00:38:15,893
What... what do you think it would--?
What would you think on the equity side?
817
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:17,361
What do you think you would be--
818
00:38:17,428 --> 00:38:20,598
You know, it be worth to you,
to take... to take that jump with us?
819
00:38:24,602 --> 00:38:29,940
[all] Lori! Lori! Lori! Lori!
820
00:38:35,413 --> 00:38:36,580
-[all] Lori! Lori!
-I-- [laughs]
821
00:38:36,647 --> 00:38:39,850
[all] Lori! Lori! Lori!
822
00:38:39,917 --> 00:38:42,320
-[Mark] Come on.
-[Nicholas] You gotta do it, Lori.
823
00:38:44,455 --> 00:38:45,323
Oh, my gosh.
824
00:38:45,389 --> 00:38:47,124
We have de-risked you
by just proving a market.
825
00:38:47,191 --> 00:38:50,328
We have proved the market.
There's growing sales every month.
826
00:38:50,394 --> 00:38:52,463
-You know, as--
-Eighty thousand dollars in one month.
827
00:38:52,530 --> 00:38:53,764
-That's pretty impressive.
-It's pretty good.
828
00:38:53,831 --> 00:38:56,500
-You can't say that it isn't.
-And still on track for this month, so...
829
00:38:56,567 --> 00:38:59,103
That's what I'm saying to you.
What do you think?
830
00:38:59,170 --> 00:39:02,440
Because I see this as so, so, so risky...
831
00:39:06,911 --> 00:39:09,480
I would have to take
51 percent of the company.
832
00:39:10,815 --> 00:39:11,949
-Oh.
-[Kevin] Whoa.
833
00:39:12,016 --> 00:39:14,051
-Boo-yah.
-Okay.
834
00:39:14,118 --> 00:39:15,686
-Wow.
-[Kevin] Are you serious?
835
00:39:15,753 --> 00:39:17,254
Fifty-one percent?
836
00:39:17,321 --> 00:39:19,590
-Lori is offering--
-I was serious because you would--
837
00:39:19,657 --> 00:39:21,325
-That's your counter.
-Well, listen. You said--
838
00:39:21,392 --> 00:39:24,095
That is a steep offer and I know it.
839
00:39:24,161 --> 00:39:25,896
-Correct.
-But I was going out.
840
00:39:25,963 --> 00:39:27,298
-Correct.
-Well, and they countered.
841
00:39:27,365 --> 00:39:29,100
So you said what would I do.
842
00:39:29,166 --> 00:39:30,034
I don't want to--
843
00:39:30,101 --> 00:39:32,837
Don't you see this doing very well
on your QVC? It's a direct--
844
00:39:32,903 --> 00:39:33,771
It is direct to consumer.
845
00:39:33,838 --> 00:39:35,573
As soon as you see it,
it triggers an emotion.
846
00:39:35,639 --> 00:39:37,408
It triggers... It triggers something
in everybody because--
847
00:39:37,475 --> 00:39:40,177
I thought it was a very,
very clever video.
848
00:39:40,244 --> 00:39:44,148
Really. It made everybody laugh.
Everybody could relate to it. I get it.
849
00:39:45,916 --> 00:39:48,552
Well, we don't want to give up
control of the company.
850
00:39:49,587 --> 00:39:52,590
We would consider max...
851
00:39:53,824 --> 00:39:55,726
-What do you think?
-[mumbles]
852
00:39:55,793 --> 00:39:58,929
-Hmm?
-We would do 45 with you if you...
853
00:39:58,996 --> 00:40:01,665
-If you're willing to go there.
-We would do 45 percent. Max.
854
00:40:01,732 --> 00:40:03,000
You have to count the fact
855
00:40:03,067 --> 00:40:05,035
-that we are so great at our marketing...
-Lori. Lori.
856
00:40:05,102 --> 00:40:06,504
-...and branding and sharing...
-[laughing]
857
00:40:06,570 --> 00:40:08,005
-...doing viral content.
-Lori. Lori.
858
00:40:08,072 --> 00:40:11,542
I mean, that's huge.
We've done this from nothing.
859
00:40:12,276 --> 00:40:13,677
Lori, what are you going to do?
860
00:40:14,745 --> 00:40:16,981
-We work so hard. This is all we do.
-We do.
861
00:40:19,250 --> 00:40:21,385
Will you throw in the shirt?
The Beard King shirt?
862
00:40:21,452 --> 00:40:23,721
I'll throw in the shirt.
And something else you don't know.
863
00:40:23,788 --> 00:40:25,456
-[Lori] What?
-What? Maybe we want back in.
864
00:40:25,523 --> 00:40:27,358
-[Lori] Oh, my God. [chuckles]
-Maybe. Maybe...
865
00:40:27,425 --> 00:40:29,260
-[Alessia] Maybe you do.
-This could change everything.
866
00:40:29,693 --> 00:40:30,561
[Alessia] This could.
867
00:40:30,628 --> 00:40:31,996
-[laughing]
-[all] Oh!
868
00:40:32,062 --> 00:40:35,599
[Mark] Lori, you gotta do it!
You gotta do it!
869
00:40:35,666 --> 00:40:36,534
-Lori!
-Oh!
870
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:38,302
I'm ready to crown you.
871
00:40:39,370 --> 00:40:40,237
Done.
872
00:40:40,304 --> 00:40:43,174
-[cheering]
-[Mark] Standing ovation for Lori.
873
00:40:43,240 --> 00:40:44,108
-[clapping]
-[Lori] Oh.
874
00:40:44,175 --> 00:40:45,242
-[Mark] Yay.
-[Lori] Oh.
875
00:40:45,309 --> 00:40:47,178
[Chris] Gotta stand.
We're in the presence of royalty.
876
00:40:47,244 --> 00:40:49,346
-[Mark] Yeah! Wow.
-Thank you, Lori.
877
00:40:49,413 --> 00:40:50,448
You're our new queen.
878
00:40:50,514 --> 00:40:53,284
-[humming "Hail to the Chief"]
-[laughing]
879
00:40:53,350 --> 00:40:56,120
-[Kevin] Oh, my goodness.
-Thank you for the opportunity.
880
00:40:56,187 --> 00:40:57,354
[Lori] Oh, my God.
881
00:40:57,421 --> 00:40:58,656
-[Alessia] Thank you.
-[Lori] All right.
882
00:40:58,722 --> 00:41:00,057
-[Kevin] Lori! Lori!
-[Lori] Oh.
883
00:41:00,124 --> 00:41:01,959
-My new Shark Tank outfit.
-Thank you, guys, so much.
884
00:41:02,026 --> 00:41:03,861
-[laughing]
-You're great.
885
00:41:03,928 --> 00:41:05,196
-Thank you, guys.
-Bye.
886
00:41:05,262 --> 00:41:06,597
[Lori] Oh, my gosh.
887
00:41:06,664 --> 00:41:09,200
You-- you are gonna be a hero
to women everywhere.
888
00:41:10,568 --> 00:41:11,802
Oh, my God.
889
00:41:11,869 --> 00:41:13,237
[Nicholas]
A little higher than what we wanted.
890
00:41:13,304 --> 00:41:14,371
-But...
-It was. Yeah.
891
00:41:14,438 --> 00:41:16,474
She's... she's the perfect Shark.
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