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Deception is an integral
part of human nature.
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From the age of one and two,
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we begin to lie by crying
to get attention.
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And it's estimated we all
lie up to nine times a day.
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People are better at lying actually,
than we are at detecting lies.
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But what if we created a world
in which we couldn't lie?
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In a radical experiment,
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pioneering scientists from across
Europe have come together
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to make this happen.
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Brand-new technology is allowing
them to rig three British people -
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priest, advertising exec
and YouTuber...
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I feel like I'm in, like, a
sci-fi movie or something.
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..to make it impossible
for them to lie undetected.
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Firstly, I went to
a networking party.
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I don't think that I ever lie.
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She said yes,
but she was nodding no.
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Yeah, they were fine,
they were fine.
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This is probably a lie.
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Then, they will be challenged
to live for a whole week without
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telling a single lie...
Have we been frustrating?
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Erm, not at all.
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..a bold social experiment to
discover the role of deception
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in our lives... Lying is a
fundamental part of being human.
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Is it really possible to
not lie for an entire week?
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..to investigate the impact
lying has on our mental state...
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You know it's stressful.
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What's so hard?
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..and the consequences of
it for our relationships.
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If I tell you, I think
we'll get divorced.
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Would the world be a better or
worse place if we couldn't lie?
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Three people are about to
take part in a world first -
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a lie detection study
of modern British life.
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I'm Mo Saha, I'm 37 years old,
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from East London and I'm a brand
and advertising consultant.
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I'm Ruth Newton, I'm 46 years old
and I am a parish priest
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and lay training officer
in the diocese of Leeds.
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My name is Ehiz, I am 19. I am
from East London and I'm a student
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at university and an online blogger.
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They are key in an experiment being
run by psychology experts to study
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the impact that lying
has on our lives today.
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I think it'd be great if we could
understand a little bit about their
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home lives, their social lives,
maybe...work as well.
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My interest in deception is
basically individual differences.
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So, the variety of motives for
people's lying, their performance,
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are they good liars,
good lie detectors?
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What's very different about this
experiment compared to almost
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everything else that any of the
deception researcher has done before
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is that we are following the same
people for an entire week.
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Normally participants come in
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and tell one truth or one lie,
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or maybe both and that's it.
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So, Ruth, are you as excited
and anxious as we are?
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Yes, I think I am, yeah.
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So, what do you do in
advertising then? What's the job?
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Well, I'm a consultant,
a freelance consultant.
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I try and find something interesting
about the product or the service and
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create campaigns off the back of it.
Borderline lying or...?
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Erm, positioning, I'd call it,
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putting it in its
best light, I think.
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Hopefully not lying. What we are
going to do is hook you up with
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three pieces of technology. OK.
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Key to this experiment
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is ground-breaking new
lie detection equipment
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the subjects will be wearing
throughout their normal lives.
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So, let's start with the watch.
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This state-of-the-art wrist
sensor detects changes
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in heart rate and sweat,
which can change when we lie,
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transmitting the data
to the science team.
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I'm a bit worried that I lie more
than I think I do
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because I think I'm
quite an honest person
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but, since I've been thinking
about it, I'm not 100% sure,
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so I'm very worried about that.
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This is going to measure
your heart rate,
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measure whether you
are sweating or not.
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So, I'll put it on your right
wrist. Yeah. Perfect.
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Lying increases the cognitive load,
or strain on our brains
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which, in turn, can affect
the movement of our bodies.
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I feel like I'm in, like, a
sci-fi movie or something.
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These unique suits use 17
accelerometers
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to pick up on the tiniest
of movements... Like that?
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..enabling the scientists
to sort truths from lies,
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with around 82% accuracy.
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I am nervous.
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I am nervous that I might be more
dishonest than I think I am
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and that would reflect
really badly on my self image
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and on my professional image.
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Stretch your arms out.
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Perfect. And walk back
to where you came from.
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The scientists' final tool
is language analysis,
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which looks for clusters of verbal
clues indicating deception.
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With the subjects fully rigged, it's
time for the experiment to begin.
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First, the scientists want to gain
an insight into the types of lies
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the subjects regularly use.
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Let me start with a toughie.
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Do you remember the last lie
that you told?
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I...had a cigarette, actually,
the other day and told my partner
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that I didn't and she
called me up on it.
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That was the last one
I can remember,
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it was a couple of days ago.
A lot of the lies that we tell
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are actually to protect ourselves,
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for example, because you did
something wrong, a transgression,
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and you are trying to hide it.
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My sister, she left some pancakes
in the fridge
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and she asked who ate them,
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and I said that it was not me.
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And then there are omissions,
where we don't tell the piece of
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information that perhaps might
have been relevant to the story.
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I think that I find it difficult
to tell people difficult truths.
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If they said, "Does my
bum look big in this?"
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It would have to look very big
for me to say, "Go and change."
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I think, at work, sometimes, when I
don't agree with the point of view,
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I'll go, "That's interesting,"
and kind of not address it,
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or say that I don't agree with you.
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We all have a unique relationship
with deception
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and why we choose to lie.
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Understanding this context
is key for the scientists.
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When I was a bit younger, I had
a little bit of a slippery
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relationship with the truth
cos I used to keep quite a lot...
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My parents are quite traditional,
Indian parents, so I didn't feel
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like I could be honest with
my parents about my sexuality
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and my relationships,
and my lifestyle.
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Jesus is the way,
the truth and the life,
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the important phrase
being, "The truth."
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But, if it's a choice
between truth and love,
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I always want to go with love.
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There must be a way of
being lovingly truthful,
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but I haven't quite learnt that yet.
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That sounds like a big challenge.
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I know, when I was in school,
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I was bullied a lot because of my
personality and the way I speak,
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and the way I behave.
And I even, to the extent,
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wanted to become somebody
who I was not happy being,
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which was this stereotypical,
"All right, mate," kind of guy.
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When we present to others
we have a front stage,
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which we prepare for
everybody to see and do,
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and then there's a backstage, which
we reserve to ourselves
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and maybe a few select others.
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So, I've come to find the
frontstage and backstage,
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and I've come to the decision
that I am going to be centre stage
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and I'm going to play my role and
be the best person I can be.
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We're now going to
move onto something
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we often do in a laboratory,
which is have people
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deliberately tell a lie,
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so we can see how it impacts on you
and the sorts of things you do.
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This context will help them create a
baseline of behaviour
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to assist in identifying
their lies in the real world.
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So, can you tell me
about your last holiday?
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My last holiday was to Seattle.
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We went to Scarborough,
in North Yorkshire.
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I went to the Maldives.
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So, in our research, we showed that
the majority of people actually more
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when they are lying. Mo is one of
the few people that move less when
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they are lying, so she sort of
freezes when she becomes deceptive.
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The most fascinating I find about
Ehiz's baseline
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is the amount of details he
includes in all of his stories.
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So, he first lied about
his trip to the Maldives
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and he actually included a lot
of interesting details.
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I'm not going to lie, the flight was
really horrible because it was very,
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very cramped because...
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Ruth's physiology we were monitoring
was quite stable, really,
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throughout the interactions with us,
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so she's going to be a tough one.
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The scientists are monitoring the
participants across a typical day,
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to uncover how important deception
is to our lives.
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One in five of our social
interactions usually involves some
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kind of deceit and 92% of us admit
to lying to our romantic partner.
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The scientists want to study if
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and how Mo lies to her
romantic partner, Sofia.
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Hiya. You all right?
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Can I get two smoothies, please,
and two soya lattes, please?
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Two soya lattes. Thanks very much.
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Mo's baseline taught us that she
really owns her truths,
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compared to her lies.
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When she lies, she shuts down and
she becomes much more concerned
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about making sure she is saying the
right things and not giving it away.
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Will the scientists' baseline
observation that Mo doesn't speak
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her mind play out in real life?
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How do you feel about
Brighton next weekend?
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Are you looking forward to it?
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Yeah, I mean, I don't know
your two friends that well,
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but I'm up for going
and I want to stay in Brighton,
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and it'll be nice
to go, you know, hang out,
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get out of London for a bit.
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I think it'll be fun. I don't know
anyone, but I think it'll be good.
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Truth or lie?
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So, this is a really interesting
one, from a language perspective.
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What we see here is Mo using
very positive, effective language
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to give a top-level answer,
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which is masquerading
perhaps some deeper concerns
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about what's happening.
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I'm up for going and I want to stay
in Brighton and it'll be nice to go,
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you know, hang out and get
out of London for a bit.
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From a movement perspective,
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this one was very
interesting as well
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because she was sitting almost
completely still.
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So, if we have a look here,
then you can see
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she's not using her hands
at all for gesturing.
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It looks like she's holding
her chair almost, yeah.
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Yeah, it looks like she's holding
her chair and, from the baseline,
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we know that Mo, whenever
she's telling the truth
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that she actually uses
her hands quite a lot,
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so I think, based on her movements,
that this is probably a lie.
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So, either lying or certainly
perhaps covering up
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a more mixed feeling about that
trip to Brighton? Definitely.
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I do want to get out of London
and I do want to go to Brighton.
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It wouldn't be, like, my
first choice of thing to do,
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to go to someone's birthday
party that I don't know.
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But if that's the case and it
makes her happy, then I'll do it.
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If you have one conversation,
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then the chances are
the highest that
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if this conversation is with a
stranger, that you are lying.
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But because you talk so much more
often to people
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that you are very close to -
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for example, your romantic
partner, your best friends,
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maybe your boss - if you add up
all the lies that we tell,
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actually the majority of the lies
are to people
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that we are very close to and
that on top of this list is,
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I'm sorry, Mum, but mothers!
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Lying to avoid confrontation is
a common form of deception.
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Studies show that this regularly
occurs in the workplace.
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How are you doing? Yeah, good.
I haven't seen you in ages...
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The scientists are keen to observe
how this plays out in real life.
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Today, I've got a meeting with
one of my brand clients.
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Going to be having a
catch-up basically,
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a bit of a recap of
some of the work we've done.
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You know, they're new clients, so I
don't want to be too overly direct.
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Actually, I think the fact that
there is tension that we can't quite
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nail right now is a good thing.
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Yeah, I'm totally here to bounce
off. I'm around all of next week.
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Have we been frustrating?
Not at all, I just think
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it's probably been the most
challenging one of these I've done,
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but because of the reason...
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..that there wasn't a
"why" to start with...
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..that works in today's marketplace.
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A tough question.
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You are sat in front of your clients
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and with colleagues beside you,
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you're asked a very direct question,
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I certainly saw her respond with
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increased arousal during that
whole phase of questioning.
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We see that she doesn't move
that much but, actually,
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I think later on, she's going
to explain it a bit more,
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she starts moving more, so probably
the initial answer,
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"No, you're not," that's
maybe not completely true,
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but then, afterwards, she is going
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to explain exactly
what the challenges are.
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I don't think they
have been frustrating.
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I think I'm frustrated at myself
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for not spotting how to
get them there quicker.
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I think she could be a
little bit harsher with us.
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She could say to us, "Guys, come
on, we've talked around this
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"a few times, where are
you coming down on it?"
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Mo often has to lie
when she presents herself
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in the workplace publicly.
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That is, she doesn't like to be
in the limelight, but her work,
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like it does for so many of us,
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forces us into a position where we
have to be that extrovert
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and that can be really quite
draining for someone who that's not
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their natural way of interacting.
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70% of us say that it is OK to lie
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in order to protect someone
or avoid hurt feelings.
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Parish priest Ruth
is one of those people.
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In Sharrow, North Yorkshire,
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the scientists will be monitoring
Ruth's honestly levels
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on a typical Sunday to
see how much she lies
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and what impact this has on her.
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I'm feeling very excited.
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I'm not feeling too
nervous about the service
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because I don't think that
I ever lie during a service.
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Although, perhaps afterwards,
during coffee, who knows?
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Good morning, everyone,
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and welcome to St John's.
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Since I've thought about this
experiment that I'm involved with,
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I've noticed that I sometimes
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struggle to challenge
people with the truth.
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After hearing some special prayers
from members of her congregation...
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And pour out your love on us.
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..it's time for coffee
with her parishioners.
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Our early interactions
with Ruth taught us
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she tends to be overly
positive when she lies,
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so she uses that positive
emotion as a way of
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glossing over the underlying truth.
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She also uses a great
amount of omissions.
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So, she doesn't actually
tell a deceit,
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she doesn't actually conceal
information, but what she does
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is not answer the question,
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or not address the issue at hand.
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Hi, how are you? OK.
Lovely, lovely service.
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Thank you. Yes, and the
prayers, were they...?
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Yeah, they were fine,
they were fine, yeah.
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They...covered the brief.
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So, yeah, I think...
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And, um, they were very clear,
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everybody could hear
what was going on.
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Good. So, yeah, I think
you did really well.
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Really? Yeah. Thanks, Ruth.
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Well done, Richard. Thank
you very much. Bye now.
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In a bid to better
understand how we lie,
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one of the methods the scientists
employ is language analysis,
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recording everything Ruth says and
highlighting patterns
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and changes in her speech.
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Ruth's answer is
quite factual based.
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"It was to the brief," for example.
Yeah.
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If you actually think
about what that means,
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it's, "That was satisfactory.
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"That just kind of did the job."
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Also, commenting on the fact the
prayers were audible, you know.
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If you really can't say anything
else, then talk about audible.
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Looking at the data we are getting
from the watch
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and the physiological response
there, it's quite interesting.
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During that interaction she was
having there about the prayers,
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there was certainly a spike in how
sweaty her fingers were getting,
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so the electrodermal activity.
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What I found very interesting
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is that she said, "Yes,"
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but she was nodding,
"No," when she was saying
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that the prayers were fine.
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The prayers, yeah, they were fine.
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They were fine, yeah.
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They covered the brief.
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With her, I find that, quite
strikingly, that her nonverbal
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behaviour and her verbal
behaviour doesn't always match.
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Absolutely. So, to just sum it up,
do we think she was lying here?
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It sounds like she's trying to
present to Richard
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a more positive story than she
actually believes.
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I think so too, yeah.
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I think that I probably told Richard
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that his prayers were
better than they were.
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If things are good enough,
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then I tend not to say how
they can be made better.
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I just want to encourage people that
they've done a good enough job.
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Hi. Come in. Hi.
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Next, Ruth has a visit
from a couple she's marrying.
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And then we have the final hymn,
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and then a blessing.
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They have a general chat
about the upcoming wedding,
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but bride Paraskevi has a more
probing question for her.
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We're having our wedding on
a Saturday, aren't we?
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Do you feel like your weekends
get taken up with weddings?
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I like taking a wedding.
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You do? It makes...
It makes...a happy day.
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There's lots of things that I do
that aren't really very enjoyable,
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because they're to do with people
being sad, or people being ill,
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or people needing support.
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But weddings are
real happy occasions.
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So, you don't mind your weekends
being taken up with them?
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No. That's nice.
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Right, I just want to
jump in on this one.
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So, when she's asked about whether
she enjoys working at the weekends,
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we see a little bit of a spike,
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an increase in her
electrodermal activity,
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so that response where the wrist
gets slightly more sweaty,
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and her heart rate drops as well.
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So, that's making me
start to question
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whether she's being
entirely honest...
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That's interesting, because I think,
from a language point of view,
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we see a similar thing, which
is almost lying by omission,
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a strategy that we
know some people use.
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There's lots of things that I do
that aren't really very enjoyable
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because they are to do with people
being sad, or people being ill,
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or people needing support.
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In this case, what Ruth is doing
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is she's choosing a more negative
option and reflecting on the fact
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that weddings are more positive.
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So, by comparing it to very
sad and negative events,
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a wedding on Saturday is perfect.
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Yes. On the other hand,
I can't really blame her.
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This is a bride who's very excited
about her one special day,
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probably planning it
for months or years.
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Isn't this the perfect
example of white lies?
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That white lies serve
a particular purpose.
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It's a great example of the fact
that lying is not inherently bad.
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There are times when it has
a role in our interactions
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and our relationships with others.
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When it comes to telling
white lies, Ruth's not alone.
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Around three quarters of us
admit to telling white lies.
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They account for around
80% of the fibs we tell.
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Saturdays, every
other week, is my day off
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and, if I get a run of weddings
and I don't get my day off,
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then that is quite annoying.
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But I just didn't think it was good
to say
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I'd rather be doing the
shopping than doing the wedding.
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And somehow that's not
entirely true either.
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# I got a ticket
for the long way round
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# I brought a whisky for the way
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# And I sure would like
some sweet company
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# There's something...
What do you say? #
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19-year-old drama student
and online blogger Ehiz
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lives at home with
his three siblings,
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who have their own theories
about his lying techniques.
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We've been brought up not to lie and
just to be truthful with everything,
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no matter how bad it is.
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But when he does lie, he does,
like, a little lip quiver
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and his eye does this, and
I also know that he becomes
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very dismissive and
defensive as well.
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People are better
at lying, actually,
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than we are at detecting lies.
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But we do think we are pretty good
at lie detection,
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so our confidence
levels are quite high.
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We probably over-rely on lots of
nonverbal behaviour
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and things like that,
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which we think is
indicative of deception -
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which, in actual fact, isn't.
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We're usually about a
coin toss accuracy, 50-50
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or 54%, the research says.
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# You're gonna miss me
when I'm gone. #
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Yeah!
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Over the course of a week, we lie to
a third of the people in our lives.
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And research shows that many of us
tell a lot more self-centred lies
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than those that benefit others.
Why would I wear your clothes?
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The scientists want to study how
this theory works in the real world,
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so they are monitoring how Ehiz
deals with tricky questions
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from his family. His baseline taught
us, when he's trying to construct
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his lie, he completely distances
himself from what's being said.
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So, there's no first person pronoun
use, no pronoun use at all almost,
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it's all third person,
describing what was going on,
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until he's got a story in his head
that he can then move forward with.
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When Mum and Dad are calling
you to come and do something,
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do you purposely ignore
when they are calling you?
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You know the walls are very thick...
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No. ..so it's very, very hard
to, like, hear and, like, interact.
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Do you pretend to sleep when we
call you downstairs
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to come and do something? You know
how much I work hard, you know...
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No, no, no... No, no, no.
You know I work very hard. Yeah.
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I go to uni and I go to work and
I've got band practice
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and church on Sunday.
You know it's stressful.
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00:22:54,300 --> 00:22:56,260
I'm living a very stressful life.
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But I remember on Christmas Day,
I saw you quickly hide your phone
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under your pillow and
slap your head on the pillow,
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and you covered yourself,
and you were laughing. No, no.
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Laughing... But you do
know that, like, at times...
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..I sleep talk and that?
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Sleep talking! You can
have dreams where you are...
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I actually did have
one the other day.
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You were sending voice notes.
No, I wasn't.
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Yes, you were. I don't know what
room you went to
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cos I was not... In the morning,
I don't talk to anyone,
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so I don't know
what you're on about.
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Wow. So, from a language
perspective,
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there's two really interesting
things occurring here.
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Firstly, when he starts
to answer that question,
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he uses absolutely no
first person pronoun.
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Really? There's no use
of I, or my or me,
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which research has shown is often
associated with lying
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or trying to avoid
telling the truth.
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Then he starts to give
lots and lots of detail
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about a thing that's
completely peripheral to the
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question that's being asked.
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You know I work very hard.
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I go to uni, I go to work and
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then I've got band practice,
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then I'm at church on Sunday.
You know it's stressful.
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One of the things that's been
observed in research in the amount
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of details people give is actually
truth tellers and liars
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don't often differ in the
amount of details they give,
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what they differ in is the
quality of those details.
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So, truth tellers really
talk about the substance,
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the context, the smells,
the sites, the sounds,
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the experiences they felt.
460
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Whereas liars often talk
in superficial details,
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they try and pad out their story
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to try and make it
sound more realistic.
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00:24:28,300 --> 00:24:31,020
I wasn't expecting that at all.
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00:24:31,020 --> 00:24:34,380
I didn't tell one fib, one little
white lie, you know I didn't.
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I just said it as it is.
Literally, all just as it is.
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The scientists think he's lying,
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his siblings say he's lying,
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but Ehiz is adamant he's not.
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Or this an embellishment, too?
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He's appeared to lie to cover up
of some his wrongdoings
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and that's actually something
we do from a very early age.
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From the age of one and two,
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we begin to lie by
crying to get attention.
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There's sort of an increase in how
much and how proficient people are
475
00:25:02,500 --> 00:25:06,260
at lying. From the age of six up to
roughly adolescence,
476
00:25:06,260 --> 00:25:07,740
and then when we get older,
477
00:25:07,740 --> 00:25:09,900
we actually don't lie
that much any more.
478
00:25:09,900 --> 00:25:12,660
You see that whenever people hit
roughly 60 years
479
00:25:12,660 --> 00:25:15,620
and they are back at the level
of lying of six-year-olds,
480
00:25:15,620 --> 00:25:16,980
which I think is wonderful.
481
00:25:18,260 --> 00:25:21,180
My schedule has just been
jam-packed, it's so busy.
482
00:25:21,180 --> 00:25:24,220
I am here networking, auditions...
483
00:25:25,460 --> 00:25:27,500
Networking, repeat.
484
00:25:27,500 --> 00:25:31,260
Where's networking? Thursday,
I went to a networking party...
485
00:25:31,260 --> 00:25:33,420
Did you, like, make any
contacts, anyone important?
486
00:25:33,420 --> 00:25:36,460
I got there, listen...
I opened the door...
487
00:25:36,460 --> 00:25:40,500
He puts a great deal of effort into
the presentation of his persona.
488
00:25:40,500 --> 00:25:43,740
It's nonverbals, it's facial
expressions, it's tone of voice,
489
00:25:43,740 --> 00:25:46,180
it's accent and all these sorts
of things,
490
00:25:46,180 --> 00:25:48,620
but you've got to think
that a lot of hard work.
491
00:25:48,620 --> 00:25:51,060
Got work on Friday and Saturday,
then church on Sunday.
492
00:25:51,060 --> 00:25:53,060
Then, Monday, Tuesday,
Wednesday, Thursday...
493
00:25:53,060 --> 00:25:54,500
So, what's the benefit?
494
00:25:54,500 --> 00:25:57,140
Interestingly, we find that some
people actually display
495
00:25:57,140 --> 00:25:59,820
what we call duper's delight.
496
00:25:59,820 --> 00:26:01,740
It's the enjoyment of lying,
497
00:26:01,740 --> 00:26:05,420
it's the enjoyment of potentially
getting one over on somebody.
498
00:26:05,420 --> 00:26:07,700
It's potentially a sense of power.
499
00:26:07,700 --> 00:26:10,540
And I think we certainly see
that sometimes in Ehiz.
500
00:26:13,020 --> 00:26:16,020
Did it even cross my mind
that I may have been lying?
501
00:26:16,020 --> 00:26:18,340
Possibly, did it
even subconsciously...?
502
00:26:18,340 --> 00:26:21,220
I've not even realised and the
people I'm speaking to
503
00:26:21,220 --> 00:26:25,140
probably didn't realise themselves.
In the end, you are just building
504
00:26:25,140 --> 00:26:28,500
a lively conversation and that
is part of human interaction.
505
00:26:31,140 --> 00:26:33,460
OK, guys, without further ado,
let's get on...
506
00:26:33,460 --> 00:26:37,620
Like many of us now, Ehiz has
a strong online presence.
507
00:26:37,620 --> 00:26:39,700
As a blogger, he has an alter ego.
508
00:26:41,100 --> 00:26:44,620
Subscribe, subscribe, subscribe.
509
00:26:44,620 --> 00:26:48,140
But there's little difference
between his tendency to exaggerate
510
00:26:48,140 --> 00:26:51,260
and embellish online and offline.
511
00:26:51,260 --> 00:26:53,820
New forms of communication
technology
512
00:26:53,820 --> 00:26:56,260
have opened up brand-new platforms,
513
00:26:56,260 --> 00:26:59,340
where we have to
decide how honest to be.
514
00:26:59,340 --> 00:27:02,140
But is this technology actually
causing us to lie more?
515
00:27:07,660 --> 00:27:11,460
There is a real concern in almost
every area of the Internet...
516
00:27:12,900 --> 00:27:16,180
..online dating, hiring people,
517
00:27:16,180 --> 00:27:19,700
friendships, that people
lie more with technology.
518
00:27:20,860 --> 00:27:23,620
Professor Jeff Hancock
is a world-leading expert
519
00:27:23,620 --> 00:27:27,740
in understanding how technology
and deception fit together.
520
00:27:27,740 --> 00:27:30,220
I don't think technology
is making us lie more,
521
00:27:30,220 --> 00:27:33,580
it's changing the way we lie and
the way we trust each other.
522
00:27:35,020 --> 00:27:38,740
One example is, we had
people apply for a job.
523
00:27:38,740 --> 00:27:42,260
They could do it on LinkedIn,
or in a paper resume.
524
00:27:42,260 --> 00:27:47,220
And we found surprisingly that the
LinkedIn profiles were more honest.
525
00:27:47,660 --> 00:27:51,780
One of the reasons for this is
because of this network right here.
526
00:27:51,780 --> 00:27:56,380
So, this is all the people that
are connected to me and so,
527
00:27:56,380 --> 00:28:00,740
lying on my LinkedIn profile
can show up to these folks.
528
00:28:00,740 --> 00:28:04,300
So, the network acts as a, kind
of, constraint on deception,
529
00:28:04,300 --> 00:28:07,340
and so I can't lie about those
kinds of big job things.
530
00:28:08,540 --> 00:28:12,220
Also, when we asked people to
record all their lies for a week,
531
00:28:12,220 --> 00:28:16,100
we actually found that they lied the
most on the phone and least of all,
532
00:28:16,100 --> 00:28:19,740
in their e-mail. This is really
surprising for people usually,
533
00:28:19,740 --> 00:28:23,980
but one of the reasons we see more
lies on the phone and face-to-face
534
00:28:23,980 --> 00:28:25,700
is because it's spontaneous.
535
00:28:26,820 --> 00:28:30,740
I can get asked things where
truth isn't a good option for me,
536
00:28:30,740 --> 00:28:33,340
so I might say, "What do
you think of my beard?"
537
00:28:33,340 --> 00:28:35,580
You hate beards and you say,
538
00:28:35,580 --> 00:28:38,820
"Yeah, it's nice,
your shirt's really nice,"
539
00:28:38,820 --> 00:28:41,260
because you don't want
to make me feel bad.
540
00:28:41,260 --> 00:28:43,700
Where e-mail and text messaging
gives us a little time,
541
00:28:43,700 --> 00:28:46,900
and we can actually come up with
answers that are more honest
542
00:28:46,900 --> 00:28:49,180
than if we were just
put on the spot right away.
543
00:28:51,540 --> 00:28:54,220
So, we're probably not
telling more lies,
544
00:28:54,220 --> 00:28:58,380
we may just be changing when
we lie and the way we do it.
545
00:28:58,380 --> 00:29:02,340
But does technology make us more
likely to be deceived?
546
00:29:02,340 --> 00:29:05,180
So, some kind of lies,
we're much more susceptible to.
547
00:29:05,180 --> 00:29:09,300
This is one of the reasons why
fake news has been so problematic.
548
00:29:09,300 --> 00:29:11,540
When I see something
that's highly emotional,
549
00:29:11,540 --> 00:29:14,020
it triggers a truth-first response.
550
00:29:14,020 --> 00:29:17,620
So I believe that. The reason we
have that truth response is if there
551
00:29:17,620 --> 00:29:19,820
was a sabre-tooth tiger over here
552
00:29:19,820 --> 00:29:22,500
and I felt an emotion
and I disregarded it with,
553
00:29:22,500 --> 00:29:24,300
"I'm going to doubt that first,"
554
00:29:24,300 --> 00:29:27,420
then I would die and my genes
wouldn't be passed on.
555
00:29:27,420 --> 00:29:32,540
So, this truth bias, or
trust default that we have,
556
00:29:32,860 --> 00:29:36,300
comes from our evolution and so
fake news takes advantage
557
00:29:36,300 --> 00:29:39,540
of that default trust. Highly
emotional, must be important,
558
00:29:39,540 --> 00:29:41,780
I'd better spread it.
559
00:29:44,180 --> 00:29:47,900
With false news being shared
more and reaching more people,
560
00:29:47,900 --> 00:29:49,940
how do we combat it?
561
00:29:49,940 --> 00:29:52,980
I think technology and deception
is kind of like an arms race.
562
00:29:52,980 --> 00:29:55,860
So we do get more tools
to deceive other people,
563
00:29:55,860 --> 00:29:58,060
this is what fake news
is taking advantage of,
564
00:29:58,060 --> 00:30:01,900
but at the same time we get tools
that we can detect deception.
565
00:30:01,900 --> 00:30:03,220
So, take the headline,
566
00:30:03,220 --> 00:30:06,180
copy the headline and put
it into the search bar.
567
00:30:06,180 --> 00:30:07,580
That's as simple as it is.
568
00:30:07,580 --> 00:30:11,260
Deception ability increases,
but then detection increases.
569
00:30:11,260 --> 00:30:12,900
So, I don't think, overall,
570
00:30:12,900 --> 00:30:16,340
technology makes it harder
for us to detect deception.
571
00:30:21,820 --> 00:30:23,700
The first part of the experiment
572
00:30:23,700 --> 00:30:27,460
studying how we lie in the
real world is complete.
573
00:30:27,460 --> 00:30:31,980
Hello again. How are you?
Hi, Ruth. Hi.
574
00:30:31,980 --> 00:30:35,620
Its purpose was to take deception
studies out of the lab and discover,
575
00:30:35,620 --> 00:30:39,700
for the first time, how deceptive
we are in our everyday lives.
576
00:30:39,700 --> 00:30:42,540
So, the technology has been
examining your behaviour.
577
00:30:42,540 --> 00:30:45,580
Now, what we're with you is
sometimes you omit details
578
00:30:45,580 --> 00:30:47,420
and you go off on other paths.
579
00:30:47,420 --> 00:30:50,980
It's distracting somebody from
the question they've asked
580
00:30:50,980 --> 00:30:53,300
that you don't want to answer -
is that really lying?
581
00:30:53,300 --> 00:30:57,980
Well, interestingly, scientists
view it as a form of lying.
582
00:30:57,980 --> 00:30:59,660
OK, so I didn't realise that,
583
00:30:59,660 --> 00:31:01,820
the technology was going
to pick up omission.
584
00:31:01,820 --> 00:31:04,540
I thought that I was going to be
able to use that really well,
585
00:31:04,540 --> 00:31:06,740
and really cunningly, to not lie.
586
00:31:08,180 --> 00:31:10,820
So, Mo, that meeting you had with
some clients
587
00:31:10,820 --> 00:31:14,060
seemed fairly intense to me and,
when you are in those scenarios,
588
00:31:14,060 --> 00:31:18,180
do you feel you're, kind of, almost
projecting an alternative you,
589
00:31:18,180 --> 00:31:21,540
and to what extent is that a lie?
590
00:31:21,540 --> 00:31:24,820
It is a performance, to some extent.
591
00:31:24,820 --> 00:31:27,540
In that way, I think it's
not entirely honest.
592
00:31:27,540 --> 00:31:30,860
I've got a deep interest in how
society is increasingly favouring
593
00:31:30,860 --> 00:31:34,140
the extrovert - the person who is
happy to be gregarious
594
00:31:34,140 --> 00:31:36,980
and go to all of the meetings,
and presenting all the time -
595
00:31:36,980 --> 00:31:39,820
over the introvert - who has to make
a lot of effort
596
00:31:39,820 --> 00:31:42,020
to fit into that society.
597
00:31:42,020 --> 00:31:44,460
Yeah, it's funny because I
think most of my clients
598
00:31:44,460 --> 00:31:47,500
would assume I'm like that
all the time and I'm not really.
599
00:31:47,500 --> 00:31:49,380
So, it is difficult.
600
00:31:51,060 --> 00:31:53,620
To truly study the effect
lying has on society,
601
00:31:53,620 --> 00:31:57,500
the experts have a radical second
part to their experiment,
602
00:31:57,500 --> 00:32:01,820
challenging the participants to live
completely honestly 24/7
603
00:32:01,820 --> 00:32:06,100
for a whole week. For a week, we
just want you to be fully honest.
604
00:32:06,100 --> 00:32:09,060
So, what does that mean?
What do we expect from you?
605
00:32:09,060 --> 00:32:13,940
Fabrications, downright lies -
those aren't allowed.
606
00:32:14,460 --> 00:32:17,900
These lies of omissions,
I think, are off the table.
607
00:32:17,900 --> 00:32:22,260
I'm just trying to imagine doing
this and it sounds difficult.
608
00:32:22,260 --> 00:32:24,780
I'm really excited to
get some new insight
609
00:32:24,780 --> 00:32:26,540
into if it's really possible
610
00:32:26,540 --> 00:32:28,580
to not lie for an entire week.
611
00:32:28,580 --> 00:32:31,620
We are hoping that we see some
behavioural change
612
00:32:31,620 --> 00:32:34,660
and also a better understanding
of when it's appropriate
613
00:32:34,660 --> 00:32:36,260
and not appropriate to lie.
614
00:32:37,300 --> 00:32:39,540
They'll keep wearing the smartwatch
615
00:32:39,540 --> 00:32:41,700
to provide the scientists with data
616
00:32:41,700 --> 00:32:45,180
and it will also act as a
reminder to be honest.
617
00:32:45,180 --> 00:32:46,660
Hi there, day five...
618
00:32:46,660 --> 00:32:49,380
They'll all be keeping in close
contact with the scientists
619
00:32:49,380 --> 00:32:51,100
throughout, via video diaries.
620
00:32:59,660 --> 00:33:03,500
For Ruth in Yorkshire, whose
aim is always to be kind,
621
00:33:03,500 --> 00:33:07,780
she's off to a slow start
on her dishonesty detox.
622
00:33:07,780 --> 00:33:11,420
This morning, I went for an
appointment and, on the way,
623
00:33:11,420 --> 00:33:15,180
I met a couple of people, who
seemed really pleased to see me.
624
00:33:15,180 --> 00:33:17,020
But I didn't know who they were.
625
00:33:17,020 --> 00:33:20,780
Now this is incredibly
embarrassing and I didn't say,
626
00:33:20,780 --> 00:33:23,660
"I'm sorry I don't remember you,
or know who you are."
627
00:33:23,660 --> 00:33:27,500
That would have been quite hurtful
to think that you weren't memorable.
628
00:33:27,500 --> 00:33:32,060
So, I played along and I asked them
lots of neutral questions
629
00:33:32,060 --> 00:33:34,580
and I think that I convinced them
630
00:33:34,580 --> 00:33:36,460
that I knew who they were
631
00:33:36,460 --> 00:33:39,460
and that I remembered
about their life.
632
00:33:39,460 --> 00:33:42,300
But, actually, I
didn't have a clue.
633
00:33:44,940 --> 00:33:48,780
The scientists have learned that
Ruth often tells little white lies
634
00:33:48,780 --> 00:33:52,100
and lies by omission to
be kind to other people.
635
00:33:52,100 --> 00:33:55,900
So, they challenged her not to do
this during her week of honesty,
636
00:33:55,900 --> 00:33:58,540
to study the effect it has.
637
00:34:00,180 --> 00:34:03,060
Ruth's role as a parish priest
is one that's fraught with tension,
638
00:34:03,060 --> 00:34:06,140
in terms of her relationship
with deception.
639
00:34:06,140 --> 00:34:08,940
She's got to navigate being honest
to many people
640
00:34:08,940 --> 00:34:11,100
who have put a lot of trust in her,
641
00:34:11,100 --> 00:34:14,020
while also not
needlessly upsetting them, or
642
00:34:14,020 --> 00:34:17,860
turning them away from the good work
that they're doing in the church.
643
00:34:19,300 --> 00:34:21,580
How will she, and
those around her, cope
644
00:34:21,580 --> 00:34:25,740
when that perceived
kindness is taken away?
645
00:34:25,740 --> 00:34:29,220
Ruth is conducting her weekly
church committee meeting.
646
00:34:29,220 --> 00:34:30,660
Good morning. Thank you.
647
00:34:31,860 --> 00:34:36,580
I'm looking at the agenda for
this morning and, so far,
648
00:34:36,580 --> 00:34:41,420
we have, "Looking at the worship for
the duration of March,"
649
00:34:41,420 --> 00:34:46,060
and we are talking about what we're
going to do for our grand opening
650
00:34:46,060 --> 00:34:47,340
of the building.
651
00:34:47,340 --> 00:34:50,140
Are there any other items
you want to go on the agenda?
652
00:34:50,140 --> 00:34:52,580
I don't think so. OK.
653
00:34:52,580 --> 00:34:55,220
If we start with the
fun thing,
654
00:34:55,220 --> 00:34:59,620
which is the worship in March,
I just want to...
655
00:34:59,620 --> 00:35:04,300
We do have this concept about
speaking the truth to one another
656
00:35:04,300 --> 00:35:06,180
in love, in order to
stop another person
657
00:35:06,180 --> 00:35:08,020
going in a different direction,
658
00:35:08,020 --> 00:35:11,060
or for the harmonious
relationships within the church.
659
00:35:11,060 --> 00:35:13,900
I particularly,
as the parish priest,
660
00:35:13,900 --> 00:35:16,060
have an obligation to do that.
661
00:35:16,060 --> 00:35:17,980
So, I think we've arrived at
662
00:35:17,980 --> 00:35:20,820
a fairly decent
consensus on everything,
663
00:35:20,820 --> 00:35:23,860
so we'll just conclude with the
grace, unless...
664
00:35:23,860 --> 00:35:26,460
Sam, you look like you
want to say something else.
665
00:35:26,460 --> 00:35:29,500
Yes, I think, just a piece of AOB.
666
00:35:29,500 --> 00:35:33,020
I think the standing committee
ought to have a brief report
667
00:35:33,020 --> 00:35:34,620
on the situation on the gas.
668
00:35:35,860 --> 00:35:38,100
I was about to conclude,
669
00:35:38,100 --> 00:35:41,660
but then someone came in with
more any other business.
670
00:35:41,660 --> 00:35:43,140
I wouldn't have really minded,
671
00:35:43,140 --> 00:35:45,780
except that I'd asked at the
beginning of the meeting
672
00:35:45,780 --> 00:35:47,220
what the agenda items were,
673
00:35:47,220 --> 00:35:50,940
so that I could time the meeting
properly, get it finished on time.
674
00:35:50,940 --> 00:35:55,740
As you know, the gas leak was
discovered finally last Friday
675
00:35:55,740 --> 00:35:58,820
and that...they've
had to put a stop,
676
00:35:58,820 --> 00:36:02,660
an emergency stop on the gas, so
we've had no heating since then.
677
00:36:02,660 --> 00:36:07,340
So, I was quite irritated,
in a way, by that,
678
00:36:07,340 --> 00:36:12,420
so I decided that it would be an
act of omission to ignore that.
679
00:36:13,820 --> 00:36:17,900
I think it would be better
if in future, if...
680
00:36:17,900 --> 00:36:22,580
If we, sort of, had all the
agenda items at the beginning,
681
00:36:22,580 --> 00:36:27,620
you know, rather than some of
this stuff coming up at the end.
682
00:36:28,500 --> 00:36:32,340
Whilst I do want to know
about the gas, it...
683
00:36:32,340 --> 00:36:36,300
You know, I got a little bit
ambushed by stuff at the end.
684
00:36:36,300 --> 00:36:39,620
I didn't like doing it,
I did feel uncomfortable.
685
00:36:39,620 --> 00:36:41,900
I have great empathy with my people,
686
00:36:41,900 --> 00:36:45,940
they work really hard and
sometimes they get things wrong.
687
00:36:45,940 --> 00:36:47,780
But I had stated that was the way
688
00:36:47,780 --> 00:36:51,220
I wanted meetings to run
and they'd forgotten.
689
00:36:51,220 --> 00:36:53,260
The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ
690
00:36:53,260 --> 00:36:56,780
and love of God in the Fellowship
of the Holy Spirit...
691
00:36:56,780 --> 00:37:00,740
So I think, in the long run,
it'll probably be beneficial,
692
00:37:00,740 --> 00:37:02,860
but I didn't like doing it.
693
00:37:02,860 --> 00:37:05,100
Thank you, there we go.
694
00:37:05,100 --> 00:37:07,060
Thank you.
695
00:37:12,940 --> 00:37:15,940
Hello there, guys. My Uber is here.
696
00:37:15,940 --> 00:37:19,420
How are you guys doing?
Today is day one of the...
697
00:37:19,420 --> 00:37:22,500
Hi, it's me. OK...
698
00:37:22,500 --> 00:37:24,980
Got to have an Uber this morning,
I mean this afternoon,
699
00:37:24,980 --> 00:37:26,180
cos I've got work now.
700
00:37:26,180 --> 00:37:27,980
Hi, you all right?
701
00:37:27,980 --> 00:37:31,020
Sorry, don't mind me,
I'm talking to my camera.
702
00:37:31,020 --> 00:37:32,700
I've got a project to do.
703
00:37:34,340 --> 00:37:38,300
I think Ehiz will find his week
of living honestly difficult.
704
00:37:38,300 --> 00:37:42,220
I think the embellishments and
exaggeration he includes
705
00:37:42,220 --> 00:37:46,500
are so much part of him and his
storytelling, and who he is,
706
00:37:46,500 --> 00:37:51,540
to remove those and to eliminate
them from every aspect of his life
707
00:37:51,900 --> 00:37:54,180
will really mean
redefining who Ehiz is
708
00:37:54,180 --> 00:37:56,620
and that's going to
be a real challenge.
709
00:37:59,220 --> 00:38:01,740
OK, that's when the beat came in
and I had to keep quiet
710
00:38:01,740 --> 00:38:06,420
because it was just...on another
level, it was just so cool.
711
00:38:06,420 --> 00:38:09,820
The videos that I actually
do enjoy a lot is...
712
00:38:09,820 --> 00:38:12,060
..making reaction videos to a song,
713
00:38:12,060 --> 00:38:13,860
that maybe an artist may have,
714
00:38:13,860 --> 00:38:16,940
you know, recently released.
715
00:38:16,940 --> 00:38:19,980
The scientists want to study
the impact that lying has
716
00:38:19,980 --> 00:38:22,300
on our society and, for Ehiz,
717
00:38:22,300 --> 00:38:25,860
that means both his offline
and online personas.
718
00:38:27,340 --> 00:38:29,300
Hey, yay.
719
00:38:31,580 --> 00:38:33,940
ON VIDEO: I actually loved it.
Do you know what?
720
00:38:33,940 --> 00:38:37,540
I'm literally just so much, I'm
too much. I'm honestly so much...
721
00:38:37,540 --> 00:38:40,900
I laugh because it's so funny, you
know, just to see how comical I am.
722
00:38:42,700 --> 00:38:46,540
Having created an exaggerated alter
ego of himself both online
723
00:38:46,540 --> 00:38:49,940
and in the real world, what impact
will it have on Ehiz
724
00:38:49,940 --> 00:38:53,740
to revert to complete honesty
for the first time in years?
725
00:38:53,740 --> 00:38:55,380
Hello, guys it's me...
726
00:38:58,020 --> 00:38:59,420
What you do post online
727
00:38:59,420 --> 00:39:02,220
sometimes isn't all what
life is behind the camera.
728
00:39:03,220 --> 00:39:07,220
I came up with this persona
called Jordan Banks.
729
00:39:07,220 --> 00:39:09,060
That's not my
name, it's not my birth name,
730
00:39:09,060 --> 00:39:11,940
but it's almost like an alter ego.
731
00:39:11,940 --> 00:39:14,620
Having a hard time in secondary
school didn't help
732
00:39:14,620 --> 00:39:17,260
and it got to a point where I didn't
even know, in myself,
733
00:39:17,260 --> 00:39:18,740
what my identity was.
734
00:39:18,740 --> 00:39:21,020
And it ended up leading to a
lot of depression you know.
735
00:39:21,020 --> 00:39:23,180
Didn't talk to anybody,
had no friends.
736
00:39:23,180 --> 00:39:27,540
But I've always had this persona to
give me a confidence boost
737
00:39:27,540 --> 00:39:30,540
and it helped me in a really
big way because, you know,
738
00:39:30,540 --> 00:39:34,140
every single time I thought about
Jordan Banks, his life was perfect,
739
00:39:34,140 --> 00:39:37,580
you know. He had friends,
he had money,
740
00:39:37,580 --> 00:39:39,180
he had everything
741
00:39:39,180 --> 00:39:41,420
and I always look towards
that as motivation.
742
00:39:43,460 --> 00:39:46,540
One of the things about Ehiz is
he's a very creative individual.
743
00:39:46,540 --> 00:39:49,540
It is interesting, though,
to think about what we call
744
00:39:49,540 --> 00:39:51,580
the "dark side" of creativity.
745
00:39:52,900 --> 00:39:56,700
People who are particularly
creative can lie more,
746
00:39:56,700 --> 00:40:01,140
can be more inclined to choose a
slightly more creative moral route,
747
00:40:01,140 --> 00:40:04,180
let's say, which I think
is really interesting.
748
00:40:04,180 --> 00:40:06,780
Even just suggesting
creativity to people,
749
00:40:06,780 --> 00:40:09,540
one of the ways in
which they then start
750
00:40:09,540 --> 00:40:12,620
to exploit that is by
being more deceptive.
751
00:40:12,620 --> 00:40:16,220
The scientists don't hear much
from Ehiz for a few days,
752
00:40:16,220 --> 00:40:18,820
and then they get this.
753
00:40:18,820 --> 00:40:22,460
I was meant to go into work today,
but I called in sick.
754
00:40:22,460 --> 00:40:24,500
Yeah...
755
00:40:24,500 --> 00:40:26,940
It's not going to happen. Um...
756
00:40:26,940 --> 00:40:28,740
I feel like
757
00:40:28,740 --> 00:40:31,420
it's going to affect the
experiment in a big way
758
00:40:31,420 --> 00:40:34,420
because I'm trying to use this week
as much as possible
759
00:40:34,420 --> 00:40:37,140
to live as truthfully as possible
760
00:40:37,140 --> 00:40:39,860
and I'm restricted
from doing that today
761
00:40:39,860 --> 00:40:41,540
because of my illness.
762
00:40:44,220 --> 00:40:48,260
100% honesty may be proving
too much for Ehiz.
763
00:40:50,900 --> 00:40:54,140
Introvert advertising exec Mo,
on the other hand,
764
00:40:54,140 --> 00:40:57,940
is taking to the idea of telling
people what she really thinks,
765
00:40:57,940 --> 00:41:00,860
rather than saying,
"Yes," when she means, "No."
766
00:41:00,860 --> 00:41:03,020
Are you going? Yeah.
767
00:41:03,020 --> 00:41:06,940
So, I just told the truth
quite consciously, then.
768
00:41:06,940 --> 00:41:11,340
We just saw a couple of
people and Sofia asked me,
769
00:41:11,340 --> 00:41:12,820
"Do you want to stop and say hello?"
770
00:41:12,820 --> 00:41:15,580
And normally I would have said,
"Yeah, sure, let's say hello."
771
00:41:15,580 --> 00:41:17,900
This time I said,
"No, I don't, really."
772
00:41:22,620 --> 00:41:25,660
But how will Mo cope in a
high-pressure work situation,
773
00:41:25,660 --> 00:41:28,660
where she has to be assertive
to stick to the experiment?
774
00:41:30,100 --> 00:41:34,980
What I want is to get these three
musicians - Maxine, Matthew...
775
00:41:34,980 --> 00:41:38,620
Mo, I think has a lot of potential
for learning during this week.
776
00:41:38,620 --> 00:41:40,860
I think she'll find it challenging,
777
00:41:40,860 --> 00:41:43,380
but also I think she could find it
quite liberating,
778
00:41:43,380 --> 00:41:47,180
as she begins to realise that,
actually, being more honest
779
00:41:47,180 --> 00:41:50,420
has a lot of positive,
as well as negative, consequences.
780
00:41:51,820 --> 00:41:55,780
Mo has a new commission
from the Musicians' Union.
781
00:41:55,780 --> 00:41:58,540
First, she's filming some
social media content for them,
782
00:41:58,540 --> 00:42:01,700
and then she's meeting
her client to discuss.
783
00:42:01,700 --> 00:42:03,620
It might be a bit tricky
to navigate today
784
00:42:03,620 --> 00:42:06,500
because I'm meeting
my client, Naomi.
785
00:42:06,500 --> 00:42:09,460
When you have a new client,
you're generally trying to put
786
00:42:09,460 --> 00:42:11,340
a good impression across, you know,
787
00:42:11,340 --> 00:42:14,580
look like you're completely in
control, those kind of things,
788
00:42:14,580 --> 00:42:17,140
and also we might be talking a
little bit about budget
789
00:42:17,140 --> 00:42:19,660
and we're always really
transparent with costs,
790
00:42:19,660 --> 00:42:22,580
but I just hope there's no
tricky questions around that.
791
00:42:24,540 --> 00:42:26,460
Off to meet the new client.
792
00:42:27,580 --> 00:42:29,620
I think we're on time. Good, yeah.
793
00:42:34,300 --> 00:42:37,140
Thanks for meeting me, Naomi.
No worries.
794
00:42:37,140 --> 00:42:39,380
Really excited
about kicking this off.
795
00:42:39,380 --> 00:42:41,580
So, did you want to
show me some stuff?
796
00:42:41,580 --> 00:42:44,100
Yeah, this is all the video.
Just little moments, like this.
797
00:42:44,100 --> 00:42:45,700
MUSIC BLARES
I'll turn it down...
798
00:42:47,500 --> 00:42:50,380
They were just getting
their instruments out.
799
00:42:50,380 --> 00:42:54,180
It sounds good, even though they're
just warming up, doesn't it? Yeah.
800
00:42:54,180 --> 00:42:56,860
In terms of format, has that been
discussed on your side?
801
00:42:56,860 --> 00:42:59,460
There might be a possibility
of making a connection
802
00:42:59,460 --> 00:43:02,300
with a cinema chain and actually
getting some cinema ads,
803
00:43:02,300 --> 00:43:04,540
so do you think we
might be able to do that
804
00:43:04,540 --> 00:43:07,220
with the footage
that we've got or...?
805
00:43:07,220 --> 00:43:10,580
Well, I think...
I think it's a great idea.
806
00:43:10,580 --> 00:43:13,700
There's a slight change in request
for the content we're doing
807
00:43:13,700 --> 00:43:17,340
to be maybe made for a cinema,
when it was always for social.
808
00:43:17,340 --> 00:43:19,220
That wasn't in the original brief.
809
00:43:19,220 --> 00:43:22,100
Normally, I'd be like, "Yes, yes,
yes," cos that's client service
810
00:43:22,100 --> 00:43:25,140
but I'm trying to be
as honest as I can.
811
00:43:25,140 --> 00:43:27,380
I think, you know,
with cinema in mind,
812
00:43:27,380 --> 00:43:29,940
I probably would have done
it slightly differently,
813
00:43:29,940 --> 00:43:31,980
or we would have set it up...
814
00:43:31,980 --> 00:43:34,620
I think I need to go away
and have a think about it
815
00:43:34,620 --> 00:43:37,260
but, at the moment, it's not set up
816
00:43:37,260 --> 00:43:41,140
to be, sort of, displayed
on the cinema screen.
817
00:43:41,140 --> 00:43:43,460
It would have budgetary
implications.
818
00:43:43,460 --> 00:43:46,620
It WOULD have budgetary
implications, yeah.
819
00:43:46,620 --> 00:43:50,060
It felt good being a bit
more... Clearer, I suppose,
820
00:43:50,060 --> 00:43:52,700
but there were definite
moments where I was like,
821
00:43:52,700 --> 00:43:55,300
"Ooh, I'm being a bit fluffy,"
I think.
822
00:43:55,300 --> 00:43:58,700
And I don't think that was good for
her or me, so it wasn't ideal.
823
00:44:00,820 --> 00:44:04,900
In a bid to study how and why
we lie in our normal lives,
824
00:44:04,900 --> 00:44:06,500
this experiment is pushing
825
00:44:06,500 --> 00:44:09,020
all of our subjects out
of their comfort zone.
826
00:44:09,020 --> 00:44:10,780
Cheers. Nice to see you.
827
00:44:12,060 --> 00:44:15,100
Mo meets best friend
Alice and partner Sofia
828
00:44:15,100 --> 00:44:17,820
to discuss how she's
finding the experience.
829
00:44:18,940 --> 00:44:21,740
So, how did the meeting
go this morning?
830
00:44:21,740 --> 00:44:25,220
I think I probably wasn't as direct
as I could have been, in terms
831
00:44:25,220 --> 00:44:27,780
of going, "Well, that wasn't
in the original scope."
832
00:44:27,780 --> 00:44:30,300
What was it that makes
you not do it, you know?
833
00:44:30,300 --> 00:44:32,300
Because in that moment,
what's the first thing
834
00:44:32,300 --> 00:44:34,940
that happens in your head?
I just want to please them.
835
00:44:34,940 --> 00:44:37,820
Yeah. I want to accommodate them
as a new client
836
00:44:37,820 --> 00:44:40,820
and make them feel
reassured and happy.
837
00:44:40,820 --> 00:44:43,180
If this was the old me,
838
00:44:43,180 --> 00:44:45,100
or if this was before this week,
839
00:44:45,100 --> 00:44:47,980
I wouldn't have even
tried to be more direct.
840
00:44:47,980 --> 00:44:51,220
No. So, do you think that
that is a shift?
841
00:44:51,220 --> 00:44:55,380
Yeah. You're much more aware of when
you're being honest and you're not,
842
00:44:55,380 --> 00:45:00,420
but you haven't quite tipped
into consistently being honest.
843
00:45:00,580 --> 00:45:02,380
I want to be more.
844
00:45:02,380 --> 00:45:05,820
I just... Have to find a
way you feel comfortable.
845
00:45:05,820 --> 00:45:07,900
Yeah. I suppose so.
I don't want to...
846
00:45:07,900 --> 00:45:09,900
Yeah.
847
00:45:09,900 --> 00:45:12,100
Are you all right? Yeah.
848
00:45:12,100 --> 00:45:13,700
Oh, no...
849
00:45:14,740 --> 00:45:17,100
Oh, what's so hard?
850
00:45:17,100 --> 00:45:18,580
Don't know.
851
00:45:21,820 --> 00:45:24,180
I just don't want to feel like I'm
going around being fake
852
00:45:24,180 --> 00:45:26,060
and having fake relationships,
853
00:45:26,060 --> 00:45:29,420
and putting on a front in a way
that's, like, disingenuous.
854
00:45:29,420 --> 00:45:31,580
And do you think you're doing that?
855
00:45:31,580 --> 00:45:32,860
I don't think I am.
856
00:45:32,860 --> 00:45:37,500
I don't think I am, but if I'm not
been totally direct
857
00:45:37,500 --> 00:45:39,300
then maybe I am, you know.
858
00:45:40,500 --> 00:45:44,420
Best friend Alice has
known Mo for 20 years.
859
00:45:44,420 --> 00:45:48,500
I don't think that she inherently
feels that who she really is
860
00:45:48,500 --> 00:45:52,140
is a totally OK thing
to show the world.
861
00:45:52,140 --> 00:45:56,980
There is such a fear of being
told that she is wrong
862
00:45:56,980 --> 00:46:00,020
or being inappropriate in any way,
863
00:46:00,020 --> 00:46:02,940
and I do think that
it's holding her back,
864
00:46:02,940 --> 00:46:05,940
actually, from, kind
of, proper happiness.
865
00:46:07,660 --> 00:46:10,220
You know, I'm halfway
through on day four.
866
00:46:10,220 --> 00:46:12,900
But I don't think I've fully,
full throttle, you know,
867
00:46:12,900 --> 00:46:15,100
been to be truthful and honest.
868
00:46:15,100 --> 00:46:18,340
I don't think I have done that yet.
869
00:46:18,340 --> 00:46:22,180
Yeah, I'm getting a bit upset
but I think it's more like...
870
00:46:22,180 --> 00:46:24,020
It's quite a deep, in a way.
871
00:46:37,020 --> 00:46:39,660
is her weekly school assembly.
872
00:46:39,660 --> 00:46:42,300
So, Ruth, we see lies by omission.
873
00:46:42,300 --> 00:46:44,260
It's a common thing many of us do.
874
00:46:45,380 --> 00:46:49,700
At assembly, I want to give genuine
feedback to the children.
875
00:46:49,700 --> 00:46:52,900
Maybe me just smiling
and saying, "Ooh, yes,
876
00:46:52,900 --> 00:46:56,620
"that's nice," doesn't help the
children to learn and grow.
877
00:46:56,620 --> 00:47:01,540
The story we're going to have today
is called The Boy Who Cries Wolf.
878
00:47:02,580 --> 00:47:07,180
That will be quite difficult
because you don't want to hurt the
879
00:47:07,180 --> 00:47:10,940
children's feelings and you do
need to be really careful.
880
00:47:10,940 --> 00:47:15,420
Do you think the boy
found it easier to cry wolf
881
00:47:15,420 --> 00:47:17,260
the first time,
882
00:47:17,260 --> 00:47:20,500
the second time, or the third time?
883
00:47:20,500 --> 00:47:24,940
I think the first one was easy
because they actually believed you,
884
00:47:24,940 --> 00:47:28,020
cos it was the first
time you shouted it.
885
00:47:28,020 --> 00:47:30,820
Now, I think you're
answering a question
886
00:47:30,820 --> 00:47:33,700
that is different to the
question I'm asking.
887
00:47:33,700 --> 00:47:36,740
I think what I did differently in
the assembly was that
888
00:47:36,740 --> 00:47:39,780
I was less affirming of the answers
889
00:47:39,780 --> 00:47:43,140
that weren't giving me
what I was hoping
890
00:47:43,140 --> 00:47:44,660
the question would deliver.
891
00:47:44,660 --> 00:47:46,700
What do you think this means?
892
00:47:46,700 --> 00:47:49,740
"What do you do makes
you who you are."
893
00:47:51,060 --> 00:47:54,580
Well, what you normally
do is the best thing
894
00:47:54,580 --> 00:47:56,300
to what you should do
895
00:47:56,300 --> 00:48:01,020
because what you normally do
is being yourself, so yeah.
896
00:48:01,020 --> 00:48:02,620
OK, so you think...
897
00:48:02,620 --> 00:48:04,100
That's not quite what I meant,
898
00:48:04,100 --> 00:48:05,580
but it's a good thought, isn't it?
899
00:48:05,580 --> 00:48:09,180
But the children need to know that,
whilst your thought was interesting,
900
00:48:09,180 --> 00:48:12,100
it wasn't exactly what I was looking
for and maybe if you'd listen to
901
00:48:12,100 --> 00:48:13,620
the question a bit more carefully,
902
00:48:13,620 --> 00:48:16,660
you would have come up with the
answer that I was looking for.
903
00:48:16,660 --> 00:48:20,220
If everyone was the same
and told the same lies,
904
00:48:20,220 --> 00:48:23,580
and everything like that, the world
would be a pretty boring place.
905
00:48:23,580 --> 00:48:25,300
If everybody was different.
906
00:48:25,300 --> 00:48:27,540
If everybody was the same,
it would be boring.
907
00:48:27,540 --> 00:48:29,340
But that's not what I meant either.
908
00:48:31,380 --> 00:48:33,620
Who's blowing the candles out?
909
00:48:33,620 --> 00:48:35,780
It didn't seem to upset anybody.
910
00:48:35,780 --> 00:48:39,740
The children were happy enough and
I had been sufficiently affirming.
911
00:48:43,980 --> 00:48:45,620
Honesty is a tricky thing to define.
912
00:48:45,620 --> 00:48:47,300
Clearly, there are some things where
913
00:48:47,300 --> 00:48:50,500
we are being deliberately dishonest
when we are answering a question
914
00:48:50,500 --> 00:48:53,340
with a fib, which is clearly not
true and then there's clear truth,
915
00:48:53,340 --> 00:48:55,380
where we're being absolutely
honest and telling
916
00:48:55,380 --> 00:48:58,580
the person everything.
In that grey middle area,
917
00:48:58,580 --> 00:49:02,820
is this notion of things like
omissions, where we leave out
918
00:49:02,820 --> 00:49:06,940
information that might be wanted,
but also the notion that if I tell
919
00:49:06,940 --> 00:49:09,940
you everything that comes into
my mind, every single detail,
920
00:49:09,940 --> 00:49:12,420
that seems to go a little bit
beyond the notion of truth.
921
00:49:16,100 --> 00:49:21,140
So, do you think that not telling
somebody something is a lie,
922
00:49:25,620 --> 00:49:27,900
You omit to tell them something.
923
00:49:27,900 --> 00:49:31,580
Ruth and her husband Andrew are
still struggling with the question
924
00:49:31,580 --> 00:49:36,140
of exactly how far she should
go with telling the whole truth.
925
00:49:36,140 --> 00:49:38,020
So, you're being really annoying,
926
00:49:38,020 --> 00:49:42,100
asking me to take your shoe on and
off on and off, do I have to say,
927
00:49:42,100 --> 00:49:43,340
in order to be truthful,
928
00:49:43,340 --> 00:49:48,060
"This is really annoying, Andrew,
taking your shoe on and off?"
929
00:49:48,060 --> 00:49:49,580
Or do I just keep it to myself?
930
00:49:51,220 --> 00:49:55,300
We're not fighting.
We have discovered a robust area
931
00:49:55,300 --> 00:49:57,900
of disagreement, that's all.
932
00:49:57,900 --> 00:50:01,780
Andrew thinks she should go
further with her truth telling.
933
00:50:01,780 --> 00:50:06,460
By omitting to say something, do you
actually improve this situation?
934
00:50:06,460 --> 00:50:10,580
So, every time that I'm finding it
frustrating,
935
00:50:10,580 --> 00:50:12,780
every time I'm finding it annoying,
936
00:50:12,780 --> 00:50:15,620
every time you've done
something that I think
937
00:50:15,620 --> 00:50:18,500
is a bit embarrassing
or you've said something
938
00:50:18,500 --> 00:50:22,220
to somebody that I wish you hadn't,
every time you do that,
939
00:50:22,220 --> 00:50:23,740
if I think that, I'm to tell you?
940
00:50:23,740 --> 00:50:25,860
Yeah. It won't make any difference.
941
00:50:25,860 --> 00:50:29,020
I think we'll get divorced.
It won't make any difference.
942
00:50:29,020 --> 00:50:32,860
I want you to concentrate on doing
lies of omission
943
00:50:32,860 --> 00:50:35,260
and not telling me things
that I don't want to hear,
944
00:50:35,260 --> 00:50:39,580
so I don't want to know if my dress
isn't as good as it was yesterday.
945
00:50:39,580 --> 00:50:41,900
Because I think that's just rude.
946
00:50:41,900 --> 00:50:44,260
I think volunteering information
947
00:50:44,260 --> 00:50:47,020
that people don't ask for
and don't want is rude.
948
00:50:50,540 --> 00:50:53,780
Each participant, by the end of this
week, seems to have a notion
949
00:50:53,780 --> 00:50:57,580
of where to draw the line, in terms
of honesty being the best policy,
950
00:50:57,580 --> 00:50:59,900
so Ruth has said, "I'm very happy
to lie
951
00:50:59,900 --> 00:51:04,540
"when it's for the benefit of
others. I'm really not happy to lie
952
00:51:04,540 --> 00:51:07,380
"when it's for my own benefit,
or unnecessary."
953
00:51:07,380 --> 00:51:10,180
So she's drawn a line
in the sand there and
954
00:51:10,180 --> 00:51:13,060
I hope she continues
to stick to that line.
955
00:51:14,100 --> 00:51:19,180
So, today is the last day and here
is me taking the truth watch off
956
00:51:19,300 --> 00:51:23,220
for the last time and
hoping that its effects
957
00:51:23,220 --> 00:51:25,220
are going to be long-lasting
958
00:51:25,220 --> 00:51:28,020
and that my conscience is now
as sensitive as the watch.
959
00:51:32,300 --> 00:51:33,780
Good morning, guys.
960
00:51:33,780 --> 00:51:36,100
Well, no, good afternoon, really.
961
00:51:36,100 --> 00:51:39,500
After calling in sick to the
experiment for a few days,
962
00:51:39,500 --> 00:51:41,700
Ehiz is back in touch.
963
00:51:41,700 --> 00:51:43,780
The scientists have challenged him
964
00:51:43,780 --> 00:51:46,180
to make a totally
authentic video blog,
965
00:51:46,180 --> 00:51:48,620
without exaggeration and
embellishment.
966
00:51:48,620 --> 00:51:52,060
But for Ehiz, the challenge of
living truthfully
967
00:51:52,060 --> 00:51:53,740
has proven too much.
968
00:51:53,740 --> 00:51:56,940
This week, it has tested me a lot.
969
00:51:56,940 --> 00:51:59,820
It has tested me
in many, many areas.
970
00:51:59,820 --> 00:52:02,980
But making a YouTube video,
being quite truthful,
971
00:52:02,980 --> 00:52:04,660
it wasn't going to work out.
972
00:52:04,660 --> 00:52:07,100
It just wasn't going to happen.
973
00:52:07,100 --> 00:52:10,740
I don't feel like my viewers would
necessarily connect to that,
974
00:52:10,740 --> 00:52:12,180
as I would have wanted them to.
975
00:52:15,580 --> 00:52:17,540
What's new with you?
976
00:52:17,540 --> 00:52:19,500
This week, yeah, it's just been...
977
00:52:19,500 --> 00:52:21,060
It's been quite stressful.
978
00:52:21,060 --> 00:52:23,980
How so? Because obviously, I
was ill for the first two days.
979
00:52:23,980 --> 00:52:27,820
Best friend Countessa wants
to check up on his progress.
980
00:52:29,260 --> 00:52:32,020
Would you say that Jordan
Banks is kind of a lie?
981
00:52:32,020 --> 00:52:35,180
No. For example, if I was to do,
like, a story time on YouTube,
982
00:52:35,180 --> 00:52:37,300
for example, and
I'm over exaggerating.
983
00:52:37,300 --> 00:52:39,820
You wouldn't necessarily feel like,
"He's a liar,"
984
00:52:39,820 --> 00:52:42,260
cos you're so caught up and immersed
in what's going on.
985
00:52:42,260 --> 00:52:44,940
OK, so it's not a lie? No. It's a
deception. It's a deception. Wow!
986
00:52:44,940 --> 00:52:46,980
When you compare the
word deception and lie,
987
00:52:46,980 --> 00:52:49,620
are they not ever so slightly
similar? Do they not cross paths?
988
00:52:49,620 --> 00:52:52,380
With deceptions, you don't
necessarily feel you're lying,
989
00:52:52,380 --> 00:52:54,980
until you properly like think
about it, whereas with lying,
990
00:52:54,980 --> 00:52:56,700
it's almost like guilt.
991
00:52:56,700 --> 00:52:59,540
You feel guilt. But with deceptions,
in regards to Jordan Banks,
992
00:52:59,540 --> 00:53:01,340
it's always part of me.
993
00:53:02,740 --> 00:53:06,420
So, for Ehiz, deception isn't lying.
994
00:53:06,420 --> 00:53:08,860
He's found a way of
justifying his lies
995
00:53:08,860 --> 00:53:11,100
and is choosing to stick with it.
996
00:53:11,100 --> 00:53:13,740
I feel like he was using
Jordan Banks as a crutch
997
00:53:13,740 --> 00:53:16,620
and I feel like
he's...been struggling.
998
00:53:16,620 --> 00:53:20,940
He's been struggling to keep
the persona and be truthful.
999
00:53:20,940 --> 00:53:23,260
I feel like this is an act.
1000
00:53:23,260 --> 00:53:25,460
I feel like it's a facade.
1001
00:53:25,460 --> 00:53:27,140
He's a scam. It's a scam!
1002
00:53:29,540 --> 00:53:32,060
He's potentially finding this quite
difficult
1003
00:53:32,060 --> 00:53:35,100
because there is a deceptive
component to this alter ego
1004
00:53:35,100 --> 00:53:38,620
that he has, and I think he
slips into it quite readily.
1005
00:53:38,620 --> 00:53:42,580
Which raises the idea that maybe
deception is a slippery slope.
1006
00:53:42,580 --> 00:53:45,940
What we see is that people start
to do it more, as they get more
1007
00:53:45,940 --> 00:53:49,300
opportunity to do it, but also it
takes less of an emotional toll,
1008
00:53:49,300 --> 00:53:52,900
if you like, so basically it gets
easier to lie as you move on.
1009
00:53:53,980 --> 00:53:57,660
So, I think very realistically,
if it becomes central to your
1010
00:53:57,660 --> 00:54:00,780
character, then, yeah, it
could become all-consuming.
1011
00:54:07,020 --> 00:54:08,580
Hi, Mum and Dad!
1012
00:54:08,580 --> 00:54:10,220
Hello.
1013
00:54:10,220 --> 00:54:14,220
What's this? Mo spent most of her
20s not being completely honest
1014
00:54:14,220 --> 00:54:16,540
with her family about her sexuality,
1015
00:54:16,540 --> 00:54:19,300
so wants to tell them
all about the experiment.
1016
00:54:19,300 --> 00:54:21,540
Do you think you'll
see any changes in me
1017
00:54:21,540 --> 00:54:24,820
after doing this week
of truthfulness?
1018
00:54:24,820 --> 00:54:26,260
Like what?
1019
00:54:44,500 --> 00:54:46,780
Can you see that, yeah?
1020
00:54:56,700 --> 00:55:01,740
So, do you reckon you're
going to keep it up, like,
1021
00:55:02,460 --> 00:55:05,860
trying to be more honest and direct?
1022
00:55:05,860 --> 00:55:08,500
I think I am going to try
and keep it up because,
1023
00:55:08,500 --> 00:55:13,620
even though I don't think I was
entirely successful this week, um,
1024
00:55:13,620 --> 00:55:18,540
the times I was a bit more truthful,
a bit more focused on being honest,
1025
00:55:19,260 --> 00:55:21,300
I got really good results.
1026
00:55:26,700 --> 00:55:30,260
What I found amazing about Mo's
behaviour this week
1027
00:55:30,260 --> 00:55:33,300
is that she's almost on a
high of all the brave moments
1028
00:55:33,300 --> 00:55:34,940
that she had where she told
1029
00:55:34,940 --> 00:55:37,860
the truth and actually was getting
very positive things of it,
1030
00:55:37,860 --> 00:55:39,940
and that's something that, in
research,
1031
00:55:39,940 --> 00:55:41,660
we actually never really consider.
1032
00:55:41,660 --> 00:55:44,300
What happens when we're truthful
rather than deceptive?
1033
00:55:44,300 --> 00:55:47,540
Because I think, in research,
we assume people are truthful
1034
00:55:47,540 --> 00:55:51,140
most of the time and
we focus on deception,
1035
00:55:51,140 --> 00:55:54,820
but actually this week has shown me
that people are quite deceptive,
1036
00:55:54,820 --> 00:55:56,700
actually, a lot of the time.
1037
00:55:59,980 --> 00:56:02,940
The experiment is over.
1038
00:56:02,940 --> 00:56:06,780
It has provided a
myriad of new data.
1039
00:56:06,780 --> 00:56:10,860
And surprising scientific insights
into just how deeply ingrained
1040
00:56:10,860 --> 00:56:12,900
lying is into our behaviour.
1041
00:56:12,900 --> 00:56:15,620
We've seen people lie automatically,
1042
00:56:15,620 --> 00:56:19,060
or drop into deception
just by force of habit.
1043
00:56:19,060 --> 00:56:21,780
Do you necessarily recognise
when you're doing that?
1044
00:56:23,660 --> 00:56:27,740
This is the first time lying in
our normal lives has been studied
1045
00:56:27,740 --> 00:56:31,980
in such depth, and the results on
just how much we lie have defied
1046
00:56:31,980 --> 00:56:35,060
all previous expectations.
1047
00:56:35,060 --> 00:56:38,580
One of the big conclusions I'll take
from this experiment is potentially
1048
00:56:38,580 --> 00:56:40,620
the fact that people
are under-reporting
1049
00:56:40,620 --> 00:56:42,140
the number of lies they tell.
1050
00:56:42,140 --> 00:56:44,220
Yeah, they were fine.
They were fine, yeah.
1051
00:56:44,220 --> 00:56:47,420
The one thing that I've learned
is that we're all so much more
1052
00:56:47,420 --> 00:56:49,060
dishonest than we think we are.
1053
00:56:49,060 --> 00:56:50,700
Obviously, you do know, at times...
1054
00:56:50,700 --> 00:56:53,820
I think this week's experiment has
shown that lying is a fundamental
1055
00:56:53,820 --> 00:56:55,540
part of being human.
1056
00:56:57,460 --> 00:57:00,860
The data has shown that even
the most devout of us
1057
00:57:00,860 --> 00:57:03,460
lie on a daily basis.
1058
00:57:03,460 --> 00:57:06,140
But is all this lying bad for us?
1059
00:57:06,140 --> 00:57:09,660
I think I've learned that I am an
ordinary person
1060
00:57:09,660 --> 00:57:12,820
and that I'm not
spectacularly honest
1061
00:57:12,820 --> 00:57:15,460
and that I'm not
spectacularly dishonest.
1062
00:57:15,460 --> 00:57:19,500
We have to lie sometimes to get what
we want and sometimes lying actually
1063
00:57:19,500 --> 00:57:21,580
does help make things better.
1064
00:57:21,580 --> 00:57:24,820
We often have this black and white
view that lying is a terrible thing,
1065
00:57:24,820 --> 00:57:28,060
when it's quite clear when
watching all of the participants'
1066
00:57:28,060 --> 00:57:30,900
lives and there are times when
they've felt that lying was a very
1067
00:57:30,900 --> 00:57:33,740
appropriate thing
to do for the social glue.
1068
00:57:33,740 --> 00:57:37,140
When you have a certain job and
whether that's being a priest, or
1069
00:57:37,140 --> 00:57:40,420
whether that is being a consultant
and having to talk to people about
1070
00:57:40,420 --> 00:57:43,860
their projects and their companies,
as the role you play for your
1071
00:57:43,860 --> 00:57:47,740
job, you often can't be honest
because people will be so offended.
1072
00:57:47,740 --> 00:57:50,900
They probably don't want to watch,
or listen to you any more.
1073
00:57:53,900 --> 00:57:58,500
This ground-breaking experiment has
given scientists a unique glimpse
1074
00:57:58,500 --> 00:58:01,380
at what a world
without lying might look like,
1075
00:58:01,380 --> 00:58:04,060
but is this a world
we'd want to live in?
1076
00:58:06,660 --> 00:58:09,340
There are some really nasty
lies that go on out there,
1077
00:58:09,340 --> 00:58:12,940
so ridding the world of scams
and ridding the world of cheating
1078
00:58:12,940 --> 00:58:15,780
spouses and things
might be a positive,
1079
00:58:15,780 --> 00:58:18,980
but no, I think the world would be
a darker place, potentially, without
1080
00:58:18,980 --> 00:58:21,900
some of the more pro-social
and positive sides of deception.
1081
00:58:21,900 --> 00:58:25,540
I think lying is pretty fundamental
to human nature, in the sense that
1082
00:58:25,540 --> 00:58:28,380
a society without lying is probably
a less successful one.
1083
00:58:29,700 --> 00:58:32,460
Can we live in a
world without lying?
1084
00:58:32,460 --> 00:58:34,700
I'm not sure we could
1085
00:58:34,700 --> 00:58:37,140
and I'm certainly sure
that we wouldn't want to.
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