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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:05,660 --> 00:00:09,300 Deception is an integral part of human nature. 2 00:00:09,300 --> 00:00:11,060 From the age of one and two, 3 00:00:11,060 --> 00:00:13,980 we begin to lie by crying to get attention. 4 00:00:13,980 --> 00:00:17,780 And it's estimated we all lie up to nine times a day. 5 00:00:17,780 --> 00:00:21,260 People are better at lying actually, than we are at detecting lies. 6 00:00:21,260 --> 00:00:24,340 But what if we created a world in which we couldn't lie? 7 00:00:25,740 --> 00:00:27,500 In a radical experiment, 8 00:00:27,500 --> 00:00:31,020 pioneering scientists from across Europe have come together 9 00:00:31,020 --> 00:00:32,260 to make this happen. 10 00:00:33,860 --> 00:00:38,180 Brand-new technology is allowing them to rig three British people - 11 00:00:38,180 --> 00:00:41,020 priest, advertising exec and YouTuber... 12 00:00:41,020 --> 00:00:43,420 I feel like I'm in, like, a sci-fi movie or something. 13 00:00:43,420 --> 00:00:46,780 ..to make it impossible for them to lie undetected. 14 00:00:46,780 --> 00:00:49,220 Firstly, I went to a networking party. 15 00:00:50,260 --> 00:00:53,020 I don't think that I ever lie. 16 00:00:53,020 --> 00:00:55,340 She said yes, but she was nodding no. 17 00:00:55,340 --> 00:00:57,220 Yeah, they were fine, they were fine. 18 00:00:57,220 --> 00:00:59,060 This is probably a lie. 19 00:00:59,060 --> 00:01:02,140 Then, they will be challenged to live for a whole week without 20 00:01:02,140 --> 00:01:05,180 telling a single lie... Have we been frustrating? 21 00:01:05,180 --> 00:01:07,820 Erm, not at all. 22 00:01:07,820 --> 00:01:11,620 ..a bold social experiment to discover the role of deception 23 00:01:11,620 --> 00:01:14,700 in our lives... Lying is a fundamental part of being human. 24 00:01:14,700 --> 00:01:17,740 Is it really possible to not lie for an entire week? 25 00:01:17,740 --> 00:01:21,820 ..to investigate the impact lying has on our mental state... 26 00:01:21,820 --> 00:01:23,220 You know it's stressful. 27 00:01:23,220 --> 00:01:25,500 What's so hard? 28 00:01:25,500 --> 00:01:28,580 ..and the consequences of it for our relationships. 29 00:01:28,580 --> 00:01:31,780 If I tell you, I think we'll get divorced. 30 00:01:31,780 --> 00:01:36,140 Would the world be a better or worse place if we couldn't lie? 31 00:01:48,220 --> 00:01:52,180 Three people are about to take part in a world first - 32 00:01:52,180 --> 00:01:55,740 a lie detection study of modern British life. 33 00:01:55,740 --> 00:01:57,980 I'm Mo Saha, I'm 37 years old, 34 00:01:57,980 --> 00:02:01,020 from East London and I'm a brand and advertising consultant. 35 00:02:02,940 --> 00:02:07,060 I'm Ruth Newton, I'm 46 years old and I am a parish priest 36 00:02:07,060 --> 00:02:10,220 and lay training officer in the diocese of Leeds. 37 00:02:12,220 --> 00:02:16,060 My name is Ehiz, I am 19. I am from East London and I'm a student 38 00:02:16,060 --> 00:02:18,900 at university and an online blogger. 39 00:02:18,900 --> 00:02:23,380 They are key in an experiment being run by psychology experts to study 40 00:02:23,380 --> 00:02:26,860 the impact that lying has on our lives today. 41 00:02:26,860 --> 00:02:30,460 I think it'd be great if we could understand a little bit about their 42 00:02:30,460 --> 00:02:34,340 home lives, their social lives, maybe...work as well. 43 00:02:36,580 --> 00:02:39,620 My interest in deception is basically individual differences. 44 00:02:39,620 --> 00:02:43,060 So, the variety of motives for people's lying, their performance, 45 00:02:43,060 --> 00:02:45,740 are they good liars, good lie detectors? 46 00:02:45,740 --> 00:02:49,580 What's very different about this experiment compared to almost 47 00:02:49,580 --> 00:02:53,340 everything else that any of the deception researcher has done before 48 00:02:53,340 --> 00:02:56,660 is that we are following the same people for an entire week. 49 00:02:56,660 --> 00:02:58,500 Normally participants come in 50 00:02:58,500 --> 00:03:00,340 and tell one truth or one lie, 51 00:03:00,340 --> 00:03:01,980 or maybe both and that's it. 52 00:03:05,220 --> 00:03:08,260 So, Ruth, are you as excited and anxious as we are? 53 00:03:08,260 --> 00:03:10,700 Yes, I think I am, yeah. 54 00:03:10,700 --> 00:03:13,740 So, what do you do in advertising then? What's the job? 55 00:03:13,740 --> 00:03:16,260 Well, I'm a consultant, a freelance consultant. 56 00:03:16,260 --> 00:03:19,900 I try and find something interesting about the product or the service and 57 00:03:19,900 --> 00:03:23,700 create campaigns off the back of it. Borderline lying or...? 58 00:03:23,700 --> 00:03:25,700 Erm, positioning, I'd call it, 59 00:03:25,700 --> 00:03:28,100 putting it in its best light, I think. 60 00:03:28,100 --> 00:03:30,980 Hopefully not lying. What we are going to do is hook you up with 61 00:03:30,980 --> 00:03:33,140 three pieces of technology. OK. 62 00:03:33,140 --> 00:03:34,900 Key to this experiment 63 00:03:34,900 --> 00:03:37,220 is ground-breaking new lie detection equipment 64 00:03:37,220 --> 00:03:40,140 the subjects will be wearing throughout their normal lives. 65 00:03:41,300 --> 00:03:44,300 So, let's start with the watch. 66 00:03:44,300 --> 00:03:47,420 This state-of-the-art wrist sensor detects changes 67 00:03:47,420 --> 00:03:50,460 in heart rate and sweat, which can change when we lie, 68 00:03:50,460 --> 00:03:52,980 transmitting the data to the science team. 69 00:03:52,980 --> 00:03:56,380 I'm a bit worried that I lie more than I think I do 70 00:03:56,380 --> 00:03:59,540 because I think I'm quite an honest person 71 00:03:59,540 --> 00:04:02,900 but, since I've been thinking about it, I'm not 100% sure, 72 00:04:02,900 --> 00:04:05,140 so I'm very worried about that. 73 00:04:05,140 --> 00:04:07,420 This is going to measure your heart rate, 74 00:04:07,420 --> 00:04:09,620 measure whether you are sweating or not. 75 00:04:09,620 --> 00:04:14,100 So, I'll put it on your right wrist. Yeah. Perfect. 76 00:04:15,900 --> 00:04:20,380 Lying increases the cognitive load, or strain on our brains 77 00:04:20,380 --> 00:04:24,420 which, in turn, can affect the movement of our bodies. 78 00:04:24,420 --> 00:04:27,580 I feel like I'm in, like, a sci-fi movie or something. 79 00:04:27,580 --> 00:04:31,340 These unique suits use 17 accelerometers 80 00:04:31,340 --> 00:04:34,180 to pick up on the tiniest of movements... Like that? 81 00:04:35,260 --> 00:04:38,140 ..enabling the scientists to sort truths from lies, 82 00:04:38,140 --> 00:04:39,860 with around 82% accuracy. 83 00:04:40,900 --> 00:04:42,140 I am nervous. 84 00:04:42,140 --> 00:04:46,460 I am nervous that I might be more dishonest than I think I am 85 00:04:46,460 --> 00:04:49,380 and that would reflect really badly on my self image 86 00:04:49,380 --> 00:04:51,020 and on my professional image. 87 00:04:52,020 --> 00:04:53,500 Stretch your arms out. 88 00:04:53,500 --> 00:04:55,980 Perfect. And walk back to where you came from. 89 00:04:58,140 --> 00:05:01,580 The scientists' final tool is language analysis, 90 00:05:01,580 --> 00:05:05,460 which looks for clusters of verbal clues indicating deception. 91 00:05:09,620 --> 00:05:13,780 With the subjects fully rigged, it's time for the experiment to begin. 92 00:05:14,860 --> 00:05:18,380 First, the scientists want to gain an insight into the types of lies 93 00:05:18,380 --> 00:05:20,700 the subjects regularly use. 94 00:05:20,700 --> 00:05:22,740 Let me start with a toughie. 95 00:05:22,740 --> 00:05:25,180 Do you remember the last lie that you told? 96 00:05:25,180 --> 00:05:28,220 I...had a cigarette, actually, the other day and told my partner 97 00:05:28,220 --> 00:05:30,780 that I didn't and she called me up on it. 98 00:05:30,780 --> 00:05:32,260 That was the last one I can remember, 99 00:05:32,260 --> 00:05:34,500 it was a couple of days ago. A lot of the lies that we tell 100 00:05:34,500 --> 00:05:36,340 are actually to protect ourselves, 101 00:05:36,340 --> 00:05:39,780 for example, because you did something wrong, a transgression, 102 00:05:39,780 --> 00:05:41,420 and you are trying to hide it. 103 00:05:41,420 --> 00:05:44,260 My sister, she left some pancakes in the fridge 104 00:05:44,260 --> 00:05:46,300 and she asked who ate them, 105 00:05:46,300 --> 00:05:48,740 and I said that it was not me. 106 00:05:49,940 --> 00:05:53,220 And then there are omissions, where we don't tell the piece of 107 00:05:53,220 --> 00:05:56,460 information that perhaps might have been relevant to the story. 108 00:05:56,460 --> 00:06:01,460 I think that I find it difficult to tell people difficult truths. 109 00:06:01,460 --> 00:06:03,740 If they said, "Does my bum look big in this?" 110 00:06:03,740 --> 00:06:07,500 It would have to look very big for me to say, "Go and change." 111 00:06:07,500 --> 00:06:10,860 I think, at work, sometimes, when I don't agree with the point of view, 112 00:06:10,860 --> 00:06:13,580 I'll go, "That's interesting," and kind of not address it, 113 00:06:13,580 --> 00:06:16,180 or say that I don't agree with you. 114 00:06:16,180 --> 00:06:19,580 We all have a unique relationship with deception 115 00:06:19,580 --> 00:06:21,940 and why we choose to lie. 116 00:06:21,940 --> 00:06:26,100 Understanding this context is key for the scientists. 117 00:06:26,100 --> 00:06:28,540 When I was a bit younger, I had a little bit of a slippery 118 00:06:28,540 --> 00:06:31,180 relationship with the truth cos I used to keep quite a lot... 119 00:06:31,180 --> 00:06:33,860 My parents are quite traditional, Indian parents, so I didn't feel 120 00:06:33,860 --> 00:06:36,660 like I could be honest with my parents about my sexuality 121 00:06:36,660 --> 00:06:39,100 and my relationships, and my lifestyle. 122 00:06:39,100 --> 00:06:41,140 Jesus is the way, the truth and the life, 123 00:06:41,140 --> 00:06:43,300 the important phrase being, "The truth." 124 00:06:43,300 --> 00:06:45,860 But, if it's a choice between truth and love, 125 00:06:45,860 --> 00:06:47,860 I always want to go with love. 126 00:06:47,860 --> 00:06:51,900 There must be a way of being lovingly truthful, 127 00:06:51,900 --> 00:06:54,140 but I haven't quite learnt that yet. 128 00:06:54,140 --> 00:06:56,340 That sounds like a big challenge. 129 00:06:56,340 --> 00:06:57,980 I know, when I was in school, 130 00:06:57,980 --> 00:07:02,780 I was bullied a lot because of my personality and the way I speak, 131 00:07:02,780 --> 00:07:05,740 and the way I behave. And I even, to the extent, 132 00:07:05,740 --> 00:07:08,780 wanted to become somebody who I was not happy being, 133 00:07:08,780 --> 00:07:12,500 which was this stereotypical, "All right, mate," kind of guy. 134 00:07:12,500 --> 00:07:14,660 When we present to others we have a front stage, 135 00:07:14,660 --> 00:07:17,500 which we prepare for everybody to see and do, 136 00:07:17,500 --> 00:07:20,740 and then there's a backstage, which we reserve to ourselves 137 00:07:20,740 --> 00:07:22,500 and maybe a few select others. 138 00:07:22,500 --> 00:07:25,620 So, I've come to find the frontstage and backstage, 139 00:07:25,620 --> 00:07:29,500 and I've come to the decision that I am going to be centre stage 140 00:07:29,500 --> 00:07:32,980 and I'm going to play my role and be the best person I can be. 141 00:07:34,740 --> 00:07:36,500 We're now going to move onto something 142 00:07:36,500 --> 00:07:38,420 we often do in a laboratory, which is have people 143 00:07:38,420 --> 00:07:40,140 deliberately tell a lie, 144 00:07:40,140 --> 00:07:44,620 so we can see how it impacts on you and the sorts of things you do. 145 00:07:44,620 --> 00:07:48,620 This context will help them create a baseline of behaviour 146 00:07:48,620 --> 00:07:52,500 to assist in identifying their lies in the real world. 147 00:07:52,500 --> 00:07:56,420 So, can you tell me about your last holiday? 148 00:07:56,420 --> 00:07:59,340 My last holiday was to Seattle. 149 00:07:59,340 --> 00:08:02,620 We went to Scarborough, in North Yorkshire. 150 00:08:02,620 --> 00:08:04,820 I went to the Maldives. 151 00:08:05,980 --> 00:08:09,220 So, in our research, we showed that the majority of people actually more 152 00:08:09,220 --> 00:08:12,220 when they are lying. Mo is one of the few people that move less when 153 00:08:12,220 --> 00:08:17,220 they are lying, so she sort of freezes when she becomes deceptive. 154 00:08:17,420 --> 00:08:19,780 The most fascinating I find about Ehiz's baseline 155 00:08:19,780 --> 00:08:23,180 is the amount of details he includes in all of his stories. 156 00:08:23,180 --> 00:08:26,540 So, he first lied about his trip to the Maldives 157 00:08:26,540 --> 00:08:30,140 and he actually included a lot of interesting details. 158 00:08:30,140 --> 00:08:33,980 I'm not going to lie, the flight was really horrible because it was very, 159 00:08:33,980 --> 00:08:35,740 very cramped because... 160 00:08:35,740 --> 00:08:38,940 Ruth's physiology we were monitoring was quite stable, really, 161 00:08:38,940 --> 00:08:41,380 throughout the interactions with us, 162 00:08:41,380 --> 00:08:43,300 so she's going to be a tough one. 163 00:08:55,180 --> 00:08:59,500 The scientists are monitoring the participants across a typical day, 164 00:08:59,500 --> 00:09:02,900 to uncover how important deception is to our lives. 165 00:09:05,980 --> 00:09:10,220 One in five of our social interactions usually involves some 166 00:09:10,220 --> 00:09:14,860 kind of deceit and 92% of us admit to lying to our romantic partner. 167 00:09:16,500 --> 00:09:18,980 The scientists want to study if 168 00:09:18,980 --> 00:09:22,500 and how Mo lies to her romantic partner, Sofia. 169 00:09:22,500 --> 00:09:23,860 Hiya. You all right? 170 00:09:23,860 --> 00:09:27,100 Can I get two smoothies, please, and two soya lattes, please? 171 00:09:27,100 --> 00:09:28,660 Two soya lattes. Thanks very much. 172 00:09:29,780 --> 00:09:33,380 Mo's baseline taught us that she really owns her truths, 173 00:09:33,380 --> 00:09:35,660 compared to her lies. 174 00:09:35,660 --> 00:09:39,260 When she lies, she shuts down and she becomes much more concerned 175 00:09:39,260 --> 00:09:43,020 about making sure she is saying the right things and not giving it away. 176 00:09:44,100 --> 00:09:48,220 Will the scientists' baseline observation that Mo doesn't speak 177 00:09:48,220 --> 00:09:50,780 her mind play out in real life? 178 00:09:50,780 --> 00:09:53,300 How do you feel about Brighton next weekend? 179 00:09:53,300 --> 00:09:55,340 Are you looking forward to it? 180 00:09:55,340 --> 00:09:58,580 Yeah, I mean, I don't know your two friends that well, 181 00:09:58,580 --> 00:10:01,420 but I'm up for going and I want to stay in Brighton, 182 00:10:01,420 --> 00:10:03,460 and it'll be nice to go, you know, hang out, 183 00:10:03,460 --> 00:10:05,060 get out of London for a bit. 184 00:10:06,220 --> 00:10:09,940 I think it'll be fun. I don't know anyone, but I think it'll be good. 185 00:10:11,580 --> 00:10:13,900 Truth or lie? 186 00:10:13,900 --> 00:10:17,380 So, this is a really interesting one, from a language perspective. 187 00:10:17,380 --> 00:10:22,420 What we see here is Mo using very positive, effective language 188 00:10:23,740 --> 00:10:26,220 to give a top-level answer, 189 00:10:26,220 --> 00:10:29,020 which is masquerading perhaps some deeper concerns 190 00:10:29,020 --> 00:10:30,460 about what's happening. 191 00:10:30,460 --> 00:10:33,940 I'm up for going and I want to stay in Brighton and it'll be nice to go, 192 00:10:33,940 --> 00:10:36,180 you know, hang out and get out of London for a bit. 193 00:10:36,180 --> 00:10:38,060 From a movement perspective, 194 00:10:38,060 --> 00:10:40,020 this one was very interesting as well 195 00:10:40,020 --> 00:10:43,660 because she was sitting almost completely still. 196 00:10:43,660 --> 00:10:47,540 So, if we have a look here, then you can see 197 00:10:47,540 --> 00:10:49,820 she's not using her hands at all for gesturing. 198 00:10:49,820 --> 00:10:52,260 It looks like she's holding her chair almost, yeah. 199 00:10:52,260 --> 00:10:55,820 Yeah, it looks like she's holding her chair and, from the baseline, 200 00:10:55,820 --> 00:10:59,100 we know that Mo, whenever she's telling the truth 201 00:10:59,100 --> 00:11:02,420 that she actually uses her hands quite a lot, 202 00:11:02,420 --> 00:11:05,820 so I think, based on her movements, that this is probably a lie. 203 00:11:05,820 --> 00:11:08,420 So, either lying or certainly perhaps covering up 204 00:11:08,420 --> 00:11:11,820 a more mixed feeling about that trip to Brighton? Definitely. 205 00:11:11,820 --> 00:11:15,180 I do want to get out of London and I do want to go to Brighton. 206 00:11:15,180 --> 00:11:17,580 It wouldn't be, like, my first choice of thing to do, 207 00:11:17,580 --> 00:11:20,020 to go to someone's birthday party that I don't know. 208 00:11:20,020 --> 00:11:23,900 But if that's the case and it makes her happy, then I'll do it. 209 00:11:23,900 --> 00:11:26,180 If you have one conversation, 210 00:11:26,180 --> 00:11:28,580 then the chances are the highest that 211 00:11:28,580 --> 00:11:31,620 if this conversation is with a stranger, that you are lying. 212 00:11:31,620 --> 00:11:34,260 But because you talk so much more often to people 213 00:11:34,260 --> 00:11:35,660 that you are very close to - 214 00:11:35,660 --> 00:11:38,500 for example, your romantic partner, your best friends, 215 00:11:38,500 --> 00:11:41,860 maybe your boss - if you add up all the lies that we tell, 216 00:11:41,860 --> 00:11:44,420 actually the majority of the lies are to people 217 00:11:44,420 --> 00:11:48,060 that we are very close to and that on top of this list is, 218 00:11:48,060 --> 00:11:50,100 I'm sorry, Mum, but mothers! 219 00:11:53,660 --> 00:11:57,820 Lying to avoid confrontation is a common form of deception. 220 00:11:57,820 --> 00:12:02,780 Studies show that this regularly occurs in the workplace. 221 00:12:02,780 --> 00:12:05,340 How are you doing? Yeah, good. I haven't seen you in ages... 222 00:12:05,340 --> 00:12:10,220 The scientists are keen to observe how this plays out in real life. 223 00:12:10,220 --> 00:12:14,340 Today, I've got a meeting with one of my brand clients. 224 00:12:14,340 --> 00:12:16,900 Going to be having a catch-up basically, 225 00:12:16,900 --> 00:12:19,340 a bit of a recap of some of the work we've done. 226 00:12:19,340 --> 00:12:22,780 You know, they're new clients, so I don't want to be too overly direct. 227 00:12:24,540 --> 00:12:28,740 Actually, I think the fact that there is tension that we can't quite 228 00:12:28,740 --> 00:12:30,900 nail right now is a good thing. 229 00:12:30,900 --> 00:12:35,980 Yeah, I'm totally here to bounce off. I'm around all of next week. 230 00:12:36,420 --> 00:12:38,860 Have we been frustrating? Not at all, I just think 231 00:12:38,860 --> 00:12:42,620 it's probably been the most challenging one of these I've done, 232 00:12:42,620 --> 00:12:44,740 but because of the reason... 233 00:12:44,740 --> 00:12:47,780 ..that there wasn't a "why" to start with... 234 00:12:47,780 --> 00:12:50,620 ..that works in today's marketplace. 235 00:12:50,620 --> 00:12:52,660 A tough question. 236 00:12:52,660 --> 00:12:55,020 You are sat in front of your clients 237 00:12:55,020 --> 00:12:57,260 and with colleagues beside you, 238 00:12:57,260 --> 00:12:59,700 you're asked a very direct question, 239 00:12:59,700 --> 00:13:01,860 I certainly saw her respond with 240 00:13:01,860 --> 00:13:05,060 increased arousal during that whole phase of questioning. 241 00:13:05,060 --> 00:13:07,700 We see that she doesn't move that much but, actually, 242 00:13:07,700 --> 00:13:10,260 I think later on, she's going to explain it a bit more, 243 00:13:10,260 --> 00:13:13,540 she starts moving more, so probably the initial answer, 244 00:13:13,540 --> 00:13:16,020 "No, you're not," that's maybe not completely true, 245 00:13:16,020 --> 00:13:17,660 but then, afterwards, she is going 246 00:13:17,660 --> 00:13:20,740 to explain exactly what the challenges are. 247 00:13:23,540 --> 00:13:26,580 I don't think they have been frustrating. 248 00:13:26,580 --> 00:13:28,820 I think I'm frustrated at myself 249 00:13:28,820 --> 00:13:33,260 for not spotting how to get them there quicker. 250 00:13:36,740 --> 00:13:39,580 I think she could be a little bit harsher with us. 251 00:13:39,580 --> 00:13:42,740 She could say to us, "Guys, come on, we've talked around this 252 00:13:42,740 --> 00:13:45,580 "a few times, where are you coming down on it?" 253 00:13:45,580 --> 00:13:48,900 Mo often has to lie when she presents herself 254 00:13:48,900 --> 00:13:50,940 in the workplace publicly. 255 00:13:50,940 --> 00:13:54,820 That is, she doesn't like to be in the limelight, but her work, 256 00:13:54,820 --> 00:13:56,860 like it does for so many of us, 257 00:13:56,860 --> 00:14:00,180 forces us into a position where we have to be that extrovert 258 00:14:00,180 --> 00:14:03,340 and that can be really quite draining for someone who that's not 259 00:14:03,340 --> 00:14:06,380 their natural way of interacting. 260 00:14:13,500 --> 00:14:16,900 70% of us say that it is OK to lie 261 00:14:16,900 --> 00:14:20,420 in order to protect someone or avoid hurt feelings. 262 00:14:20,420 --> 00:14:22,660 Parish priest Ruth is one of those people. 263 00:14:23,580 --> 00:14:25,380 In Sharrow, North Yorkshire, 264 00:14:25,380 --> 00:14:28,140 the scientists will be monitoring Ruth's honestly levels 265 00:14:28,140 --> 00:14:31,260 on a typical Sunday to see how much she lies 266 00:14:31,260 --> 00:14:33,820 and what impact this has on her. 267 00:14:33,820 --> 00:14:35,780 I'm feeling very excited. 268 00:14:35,780 --> 00:14:39,340 I'm not feeling too nervous about the service 269 00:14:39,340 --> 00:14:43,580 because I don't think that I ever lie during a service. 270 00:14:43,580 --> 00:14:47,020 Although, perhaps afterwards, during coffee, who knows? 271 00:14:48,300 --> 00:14:50,500 Good morning, everyone, 272 00:14:50,500 --> 00:14:52,700 and welcome to St John's. 273 00:14:54,340 --> 00:14:59,340 Since I've thought about this experiment that I'm involved with, 274 00:14:59,380 --> 00:15:01,620 I've noticed that I sometimes 275 00:15:01,620 --> 00:15:04,900 struggle to challenge people with the truth. 276 00:15:06,540 --> 00:15:10,580 After hearing some special prayers from members of her congregation... 277 00:15:10,580 --> 00:15:13,260 And pour out your love on us. 278 00:15:14,300 --> 00:15:18,500 ..it's time for coffee with her parishioners. 279 00:15:18,500 --> 00:15:20,540 Our early interactions with Ruth taught us 280 00:15:20,540 --> 00:15:22,980 she tends to be overly positive when she lies, 281 00:15:22,980 --> 00:15:25,220 so she uses that positive emotion as a way of 282 00:15:25,220 --> 00:15:27,700 glossing over the underlying truth. 283 00:15:27,700 --> 00:15:31,500 She also uses a great amount of omissions. 284 00:15:31,500 --> 00:15:33,940 So, she doesn't actually tell a deceit, 285 00:15:33,940 --> 00:15:36,740 she doesn't actually conceal information, but what she does 286 00:15:36,740 --> 00:15:38,220 is not answer the question, 287 00:15:38,220 --> 00:15:40,020 or not address the issue at hand. 288 00:15:41,180 --> 00:15:44,260 Hi, how are you? OK. Lovely, lovely service. 289 00:15:44,260 --> 00:15:47,140 Thank you. Yes, and the prayers, were they...? 290 00:15:47,140 --> 00:15:49,660 Yeah, they were fine, they were fine, yeah. 291 00:15:49,660 --> 00:15:51,540 They...covered the brief. 292 00:15:53,060 --> 00:15:55,460 So, yeah, I think... 293 00:15:55,460 --> 00:15:58,140 And, um, they were very clear, 294 00:15:58,140 --> 00:16:01,380 everybody could hear what was going on. 295 00:16:01,380 --> 00:16:04,260 Good. So, yeah, I think you did really well. 296 00:16:04,260 --> 00:16:06,820 Really? Yeah. Thanks, Ruth. 297 00:16:06,820 --> 00:16:09,020 Well done, Richard. Thank you very much. Bye now. 298 00:16:11,340 --> 00:16:14,180 In a bid to better understand how we lie, 299 00:16:14,180 --> 00:16:18,180 one of the methods the scientists employ is language analysis, 300 00:16:18,180 --> 00:16:21,340 recording everything Ruth says and highlighting patterns 301 00:16:21,340 --> 00:16:23,860 and changes in her speech. 302 00:16:23,860 --> 00:16:26,580 Ruth's answer is quite factual based. 303 00:16:26,580 --> 00:16:28,780 "It was to the brief," for example. Yeah. 304 00:16:28,780 --> 00:16:30,860 If you actually think about what that means, 305 00:16:30,860 --> 00:16:32,500 it's, "That was satisfactory. 306 00:16:32,500 --> 00:16:35,300 "That just kind of did the job." 307 00:16:35,300 --> 00:16:39,740 Also, commenting on the fact the prayers were audible, you know. 308 00:16:39,740 --> 00:16:44,660 If you really can't say anything else, then talk about audible. 309 00:16:44,660 --> 00:16:46,860 Looking at the data we are getting from the watch 310 00:16:46,860 --> 00:16:49,940 and the physiological response there, it's quite interesting. 311 00:16:49,940 --> 00:16:52,980 During that interaction she was having there about the prayers, 312 00:16:52,980 --> 00:16:55,980 there was certainly a spike in how sweaty her fingers were getting, 313 00:16:55,980 --> 00:16:57,620 so the electrodermal activity. 314 00:16:57,620 --> 00:17:00,220 What I found very interesting 315 00:17:00,220 --> 00:17:01,940 is that she said, "Yes," 316 00:17:01,940 --> 00:17:04,300 but she was nodding, "No," when she was saying 317 00:17:04,300 --> 00:17:05,940 that the prayers were fine. 318 00:17:05,940 --> 00:17:08,380 The prayers, yeah, they were fine. 319 00:17:08,380 --> 00:17:09,940 They were fine, yeah. 320 00:17:09,940 --> 00:17:12,060 They covered the brief. 321 00:17:12,060 --> 00:17:14,820 With her, I find that, quite strikingly, that her nonverbal 322 00:17:14,820 --> 00:17:17,860 behaviour and her verbal behaviour doesn't always match. 323 00:17:17,860 --> 00:17:21,740 Absolutely. So, to just sum it up, do we think she was lying here? 324 00:17:21,740 --> 00:17:24,020 It sounds like she's trying to present to Richard 325 00:17:24,020 --> 00:17:26,660 a more positive story than she actually believes. 326 00:17:26,660 --> 00:17:28,100 I think so too, yeah. 327 00:17:29,300 --> 00:17:32,180 I think that I probably told Richard 328 00:17:32,180 --> 00:17:35,820 that his prayers were better than they were. 329 00:17:35,820 --> 00:17:38,060 If things are good enough, 330 00:17:38,060 --> 00:17:41,100 then I tend not to say how they can be made better. 331 00:17:41,100 --> 00:17:46,020 I just want to encourage people that they've done a good enough job. 332 00:17:46,180 --> 00:17:48,780 Hi. Come in. Hi. 333 00:17:48,780 --> 00:17:52,260 Next, Ruth has a visit from a couple she's marrying. 334 00:17:52,260 --> 00:17:55,700 And then we have the final hymn, 335 00:17:55,700 --> 00:17:58,020 and then a blessing. 336 00:17:58,020 --> 00:18:01,100 They have a general chat about the upcoming wedding, 337 00:18:01,100 --> 00:18:04,900 but bride Paraskevi has a more probing question for her. 338 00:18:04,900 --> 00:18:07,700 We're having our wedding on a Saturday, aren't we? 339 00:18:07,700 --> 00:18:10,820 Do you feel like your weekends get taken up with weddings? 340 00:18:12,180 --> 00:18:13,780 I like taking a wedding. 341 00:18:13,780 --> 00:18:18,020 You do? It makes... It makes...a happy day. 342 00:18:18,020 --> 00:18:22,340 There's lots of things that I do that aren't really very enjoyable, 343 00:18:22,340 --> 00:18:25,660 because they're to do with people being sad, or people being ill, 344 00:18:25,660 --> 00:18:27,260 or people needing support. 345 00:18:27,260 --> 00:18:29,660 But weddings are real happy occasions. 346 00:18:29,660 --> 00:18:32,300 So, you don't mind your weekends being taken up with them? 347 00:18:32,300 --> 00:18:34,740 No. That's nice. 348 00:18:36,340 --> 00:18:38,380 Right, I just want to jump in on this one. 349 00:18:38,380 --> 00:18:41,780 So, when she's asked about whether she enjoys working at the weekends, 350 00:18:41,780 --> 00:18:43,260 we see a little bit of a spike, 351 00:18:43,260 --> 00:18:45,580 an increase in her electrodermal activity, 352 00:18:45,580 --> 00:18:48,140 so that response where the wrist gets slightly more sweaty, 353 00:18:48,140 --> 00:18:49,940 and her heart rate drops as well. 354 00:18:49,940 --> 00:18:52,140 So, that's making me start to question 355 00:18:52,140 --> 00:18:54,420 whether she's being entirely honest... 356 00:18:54,420 --> 00:18:57,300 That's interesting, because I think, from a language point of view, 357 00:18:57,300 --> 00:19:00,340 we see a similar thing, which is almost lying by omission, 358 00:19:00,340 --> 00:19:02,940 a strategy that we know some people use. 359 00:19:02,940 --> 00:19:07,380 There's lots of things that I do that aren't really very enjoyable 360 00:19:07,380 --> 00:19:10,660 because they are to do with people being sad, or people being ill, 361 00:19:10,660 --> 00:19:12,500 or people needing support. 362 00:19:12,500 --> 00:19:14,740 In this case, what Ruth is doing 363 00:19:14,740 --> 00:19:18,180 is she's choosing a more negative option and reflecting on the fact 364 00:19:18,180 --> 00:19:20,060 that weddings are more positive. 365 00:19:20,060 --> 00:19:23,660 So, by comparing it to very sad and negative events, 366 00:19:23,660 --> 00:19:25,740 a wedding on Saturday is perfect. 367 00:19:25,740 --> 00:19:28,500 Yes. On the other hand, I can't really blame her. 368 00:19:28,500 --> 00:19:31,460 This is a bride who's very excited about her one special day, 369 00:19:31,460 --> 00:19:34,540 probably planning it for months or years. 370 00:19:34,540 --> 00:19:37,140 Isn't this the perfect example of white lies? 371 00:19:37,140 --> 00:19:40,020 That white lies serve a particular purpose. 372 00:19:40,020 --> 00:19:42,780 It's a great example of the fact that lying is not inherently bad. 373 00:19:42,780 --> 00:19:46,220 There are times when it has a role in our interactions 374 00:19:46,220 --> 00:19:48,260 and our relationships with others. 375 00:19:49,740 --> 00:19:53,180 When it comes to telling white lies, Ruth's not alone. 376 00:19:53,180 --> 00:19:57,020 Around three quarters of us admit to telling white lies. 377 00:19:57,020 --> 00:20:00,020 They account for around 80% of the fibs we tell. 378 00:20:01,380 --> 00:20:03,860 Saturdays, every other week, is my day off 379 00:20:03,860 --> 00:20:07,300 and, if I get a run of weddings and I don't get my day off, 380 00:20:07,300 --> 00:20:09,180 then that is quite annoying. 381 00:20:09,180 --> 00:20:13,740 But I just didn't think it was good to say 382 00:20:13,740 --> 00:20:16,820 I'd rather be doing the shopping than doing the wedding. 383 00:20:16,820 --> 00:20:19,140 And somehow that's not entirely true either. 384 00:20:33,740 --> 00:20:37,180 # I got a ticket for the long way round 385 00:20:37,180 --> 00:20:39,860 # I brought a whisky for the way 386 00:20:39,860 --> 00:20:43,300 # And I sure would like some sweet company 387 00:20:43,300 --> 00:20:45,820 # There's something... What do you say? # 388 00:20:45,820 --> 00:20:49,380 19-year-old drama student and online blogger Ehiz 389 00:20:49,380 --> 00:20:52,660 lives at home with his three siblings, 390 00:20:52,660 --> 00:20:55,300 who have their own theories about his lying techniques. 391 00:20:55,300 --> 00:20:58,460 We've been brought up not to lie and just to be truthful with everything, 392 00:20:58,460 --> 00:20:59,940 no matter how bad it is. 393 00:20:59,940 --> 00:21:04,020 But when he does lie, he does, like, a little lip quiver 394 00:21:04,020 --> 00:21:06,860 and his eye does this, and I also know that he becomes 395 00:21:06,860 --> 00:21:09,580 very dismissive and defensive as well. 396 00:21:11,340 --> 00:21:13,180 People are better at lying, actually, 397 00:21:13,180 --> 00:21:14,780 than we are at detecting lies. 398 00:21:14,780 --> 00:21:17,620 But we do think we are pretty good at lie detection, 399 00:21:17,620 --> 00:21:19,660 so our confidence levels are quite high. 400 00:21:19,660 --> 00:21:22,540 We probably over-rely on lots of nonverbal behaviour 401 00:21:22,540 --> 00:21:24,540 and things like that, 402 00:21:24,540 --> 00:21:26,580 which we think is indicative of deception - 403 00:21:26,580 --> 00:21:27,980 which, in actual fact, isn't. 404 00:21:27,980 --> 00:21:30,740 We're usually about a coin toss accuracy, 50-50 405 00:21:30,740 --> 00:21:32,460 or 54%, the research says. 406 00:21:32,460 --> 00:21:37,140 # You're gonna miss me when I'm gone. # 407 00:21:37,140 --> 00:21:38,620 Yeah! 408 00:21:40,220 --> 00:21:45,260 Over the course of a week, we lie to a third of the people in our lives. 409 00:21:45,460 --> 00:21:49,140 And research shows that many of us tell a lot more self-centred lies 410 00:21:49,140 --> 00:21:53,420 than those that benefit others. Why would I wear your clothes? 411 00:21:53,420 --> 00:21:57,060 The scientists want to study how this theory works in the real world, 412 00:21:57,060 --> 00:22:00,500 so they are monitoring how Ehiz deals with tricky questions 413 00:22:00,500 --> 00:22:05,060 from his family. His baseline taught us, when he's trying to construct 414 00:22:05,060 --> 00:22:09,620 his lie, he completely distances himself from what's being said. 415 00:22:09,620 --> 00:22:14,500 So, there's no first person pronoun use, no pronoun use at all almost, 416 00:22:14,500 --> 00:22:17,820 it's all third person, describing what was going on, 417 00:22:17,820 --> 00:22:21,820 until he's got a story in his head that he can then move forward with. 418 00:22:21,820 --> 00:22:24,980 When Mum and Dad are calling you to come and do something, 419 00:22:24,980 --> 00:22:28,700 do you purposely ignore when they are calling you? 420 00:22:28,700 --> 00:22:30,940 You know the walls are very thick... 421 00:22:30,940 --> 00:22:35,860 No. ..so it's very, very hard to, like, hear and, like, interact. 422 00:22:36,460 --> 00:22:39,340 Do you pretend to sleep when we call you downstairs 423 00:22:39,340 --> 00:22:43,380 to come and do something? You know how much I work hard, you know... 424 00:22:43,380 --> 00:22:47,220 No, no, no... No, no, no. You know I work very hard. Yeah. 425 00:22:47,220 --> 00:22:51,660 I go to uni and I go to work and I've got band practice 426 00:22:51,660 --> 00:22:54,300 and church on Sunday. You know it's stressful. 427 00:22:54,300 --> 00:22:56,260 I'm living a very stressful life. 428 00:22:56,260 --> 00:22:59,180 But I remember on Christmas Day, I saw you quickly hide your phone 429 00:22:59,180 --> 00:23:02,020 under your pillow and slap your head on the pillow, 430 00:23:02,020 --> 00:23:05,700 and you covered yourself, and you were laughing. No, no. 431 00:23:05,700 --> 00:23:08,740 Laughing... But you do know that, like, at times... 432 00:23:08,740 --> 00:23:10,540 ..I sleep talk and that? 433 00:23:10,540 --> 00:23:13,620 Sleep talking! You can have dreams where you are... 434 00:23:13,620 --> 00:23:15,780 I actually did have one the other day. 435 00:23:15,780 --> 00:23:17,700 You were sending voice notes. No, I wasn't. 436 00:23:17,700 --> 00:23:20,140 Yes, you were. I don't know what room you went to 437 00:23:20,140 --> 00:23:22,620 cos I was not... In the morning, I don't talk to anyone, 438 00:23:22,620 --> 00:23:24,620 so I don't know what you're on about. 439 00:23:25,620 --> 00:23:27,420 Wow. So, from a language perspective, 440 00:23:27,420 --> 00:23:30,460 there's two really interesting things occurring here. 441 00:23:30,460 --> 00:23:32,900 Firstly, when he starts to answer that question, 442 00:23:32,900 --> 00:23:35,140 he uses absolutely no first person pronoun. 443 00:23:35,140 --> 00:23:39,580 Really? There's no use of I, or my or me, 444 00:23:39,580 --> 00:23:43,620 which research has shown is often associated with lying 445 00:23:43,620 --> 00:23:45,780 or trying to avoid telling the truth. 446 00:23:45,780 --> 00:23:48,100 Then he starts to give lots and lots of detail 447 00:23:48,100 --> 00:23:50,780 about a thing that's completely peripheral to the 448 00:23:50,780 --> 00:23:52,620 question that's being asked. 449 00:23:52,620 --> 00:23:54,140 You know I work very hard. 450 00:23:54,140 --> 00:23:56,180 I go to uni, I go to work and 451 00:23:56,180 --> 00:23:58,700 then I've got band practice, 452 00:23:58,700 --> 00:24:01,380 then I'm at church on Sunday. You know it's stressful. 453 00:24:01,380 --> 00:24:04,180 One of the things that's been observed in research in the amount 454 00:24:04,180 --> 00:24:06,860 of details people give is actually truth tellers and liars 455 00:24:06,860 --> 00:24:09,740 don't often differ in the amount of details they give, 456 00:24:09,740 --> 00:24:12,540 what they differ in is the quality of those details. 457 00:24:12,540 --> 00:24:15,140 So, truth tellers really talk about the substance, 458 00:24:15,140 --> 00:24:18,740 the context, the smells, the sites, the sounds, 459 00:24:18,740 --> 00:24:20,660 the experiences they felt. 460 00:24:20,660 --> 00:24:23,340 Whereas liars often talk in superficial details, 461 00:24:23,340 --> 00:24:24,900 they try and pad out their story 462 00:24:24,900 --> 00:24:26,940 to try and make it sound more realistic. 463 00:24:28,300 --> 00:24:31,020 I wasn't expecting that at all. 464 00:24:31,020 --> 00:24:34,380 I didn't tell one fib, one little white lie, you know I didn't. 465 00:24:34,380 --> 00:24:37,100 I just said it as it is. Literally, all just as it is. 466 00:24:38,140 --> 00:24:40,140 The scientists think he's lying, 467 00:24:40,140 --> 00:24:42,380 his siblings say he's lying, 468 00:24:42,380 --> 00:24:44,820 but Ehiz is adamant he's not. 469 00:24:44,820 --> 00:24:46,780 Or this an embellishment, too? 470 00:24:47,900 --> 00:24:51,060 He's appeared to lie to cover up of some his wrongdoings 471 00:24:51,060 --> 00:24:53,780 and that's actually something we do from a very early age. 472 00:24:53,780 --> 00:24:55,660 From the age of one and two, 473 00:24:55,660 --> 00:24:58,620 we begin to lie by crying to get attention. 474 00:24:58,620 --> 00:25:02,500 There's sort of an increase in how much and how proficient people are 475 00:25:02,500 --> 00:25:06,260 at lying. From the age of six up to roughly adolescence, 476 00:25:06,260 --> 00:25:07,740 and then when we get older, 477 00:25:07,740 --> 00:25:09,900 we actually don't lie that much any more. 478 00:25:09,900 --> 00:25:12,660 You see that whenever people hit roughly 60 years 479 00:25:12,660 --> 00:25:15,620 and they are back at the level of lying of six-year-olds, 480 00:25:15,620 --> 00:25:16,980 which I think is wonderful. 481 00:25:18,260 --> 00:25:21,180 My schedule has just been jam-packed, it's so busy. 482 00:25:21,180 --> 00:25:24,220 I am here networking, auditions... 483 00:25:25,460 --> 00:25:27,500 Networking, repeat. 484 00:25:27,500 --> 00:25:31,260 Where's networking? Thursday, I went to a networking party... 485 00:25:31,260 --> 00:25:33,420 Did you, like, make any contacts, anyone important? 486 00:25:33,420 --> 00:25:36,460 I got there, listen... I opened the door... 487 00:25:36,460 --> 00:25:40,500 He puts a great deal of effort into the presentation of his persona. 488 00:25:40,500 --> 00:25:43,740 It's nonverbals, it's facial expressions, it's tone of voice, 489 00:25:43,740 --> 00:25:46,180 it's accent and all these sorts of things, 490 00:25:46,180 --> 00:25:48,620 but you've got to think that a lot of hard work. 491 00:25:48,620 --> 00:25:51,060 Got work on Friday and Saturday, then church on Sunday. 492 00:25:51,060 --> 00:25:53,060 Then, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday... 493 00:25:53,060 --> 00:25:54,500 So, what's the benefit? 494 00:25:54,500 --> 00:25:57,140 Interestingly, we find that some people actually display 495 00:25:57,140 --> 00:25:59,820 what we call duper's delight. 496 00:25:59,820 --> 00:26:01,740 It's the enjoyment of lying, 497 00:26:01,740 --> 00:26:05,420 it's the enjoyment of potentially getting one over on somebody. 498 00:26:05,420 --> 00:26:07,700 It's potentially a sense of power. 499 00:26:07,700 --> 00:26:10,540 And I think we certainly see that sometimes in Ehiz. 500 00:26:13,020 --> 00:26:16,020 Did it even cross my mind that I may have been lying? 501 00:26:16,020 --> 00:26:18,340 Possibly, did it even subconsciously...? 502 00:26:18,340 --> 00:26:21,220 I've not even realised and the people I'm speaking to 503 00:26:21,220 --> 00:26:25,140 probably didn't realise themselves. In the end, you are just building 504 00:26:25,140 --> 00:26:28,500 a lively conversation and that is part of human interaction. 505 00:26:31,140 --> 00:26:33,460 OK, guys, without further ado, let's get on... 506 00:26:33,460 --> 00:26:37,620 Like many of us now, Ehiz has a strong online presence. 507 00:26:37,620 --> 00:26:39,700 As a blogger, he has an alter ego. 508 00:26:41,100 --> 00:26:44,620 Subscribe, subscribe, subscribe. 509 00:26:44,620 --> 00:26:48,140 But there's little difference between his tendency to exaggerate 510 00:26:48,140 --> 00:26:51,260 and embellish online and offline. 511 00:26:51,260 --> 00:26:53,820 New forms of communication technology 512 00:26:53,820 --> 00:26:56,260 have opened up brand-new platforms, 513 00:26:56,260 --> 00:26:59,340 where we have to decide how honest to be. 514 00:26:59,340 --> 00:27:02,140 But is this technology actually causing us to lie more? 515 00:27:07,660 --> 00:27:11,460 There is a real concern in almost every area of the Internet... 516 00:27:12,900 --> 00:27:16,180 ..online dating, hiring people, 517 00:27:16,180 --> 00:27:19,700 friendships, that people lie more with technology. 518 00:27:20,860 --> 00:27:23,620 Professor Jeff Hancock is a world-leading expert 519 00:27:23,620 --> 00:27:27,740 in understanding how technology and deception fit together. 520 00:27:27,740 --> 00:27:30,220 I don't think technology is making us lie more, 521 00:27:30,220 --> 00:27:33,580 it's changing the way we lie and the way we trust each other. 522 00:27:35,020 --> 00:27:38,740 One example is, we had people apply for a job. 523 00:27:38,740 --> 00:27:42,260 They could do it on LinkedIn, or in a paper resume. 524 00:27:42,260 --> 00:27:47,220 And we found surprisingly that the LinkedIn profiles were more honest. 525 00:27:47,660 --> 00:27:51,780 One of the reasons for this is because of this network right here. 526 00:27:51,780 --> 00:27:56,380 So, this is all the people that are connected to me and so, 527 00:27:56,380 --> 00:28:00,740 lying on my LinkedIn profile can show up to these folks. 528 00:28:00,740 --> 00:28:04,300 So, the network acts as a, kind of, constraint on deception, 529 00:28:04,300 --> 00:28:07,340 and so I can't lie about those kinds of big job things. 530 00:28:08,540 --> 00:28:12,220 Also, when we asked people to record all their lies for a week, 531 00:28:12,220 --> 00:28:16,100 we actually found that they lied the most on the phone and least of all, 532 00:28:16,100 --> 00:28:19,740 in their e-mail. This is really surprising for people usually, 533 00:28:19,740 --> 00:28:23,980 but one of the reasons we see more lies on the phone and face-to-face 534 00:28:23,980 --> 00:28:25,700 is because it's spontaneous. 535 00:28:26,820 --> 00:28:30,740 I can get asked things where truth isn't a good option for me, 536 00:28:30,740 --> 00:28:33,340 so I might say, "What do you think of my beard?" 537 00:28:33,340 --> 00:28:35,580 You hate beards and you say, 538 00:28:35,580 --> 00:28:38,820 "Yeah, it's nice, your shirt's really nice," 539 00:28:38,820 --> 00:28:41,260 because you don't want to make me feel bad. 540 00:28:41,260 --> 00:28:43,700 Where e-mail and text messaging gives us a little time, 541 00:28:43,700 --> 00:28:46,900 and we can actually come up with answers that are more honest 542 00:28:46,900 --> 00:28:49,180 than if we were just put on the spot right away. 543 00:28:51,540 --> 00:28:54,220 So, we're probably not telling more lies, 544 00:28:54,220 --> 00:28:58,380 we may just be changing when we lie and the way we do it. 545 00:28:58,380 --> 00:29:02,340 But does technology make us more likely to be deceived? 546 00:29:02,340 --> 00:29:05,180 So, some kind of lies, we're much more susceptible to. 547 00:29:05,180 --> 00:29:09,300 This is one of the reasons why fake news has been so problematic. 548 00:29:09,300 --> 00:29:11,540 When I see something that's highly emotional, 549 00:29:11,540 --> 00:29:14,020 it triggers a truth-first response. 550 00:29:14,020 --> 00:29:17,620 So I believe that. The reason we have that truth response is if there 551 00:29:17,620 --> 00:29:19,820 was a sabre-tooth tiger over here 552 00:29:19,820 --> 00:29:22,500 and I felt an emotion and I disregarded it with, 553 00:29:22,500 --> 00:29:24,300 "I'm going to doubt that first," 554 00:29:24,300 --> 00:29:27,420 then I would die and my genes wouldn't be passed on. 555 00:29:27,420 --> 00:29:32,540 So, this truth bias, or trust default that we have, 556 00:29:32,860 --> 00:29:36,300 comes from our evolution and so fake news takes advantage 557 00:29:36,300 --> 00:29:39,540 of that default trust. Highly emotional, must be important, 558 00:29:39,540 --> 00:29:41,780 I'd better spread it. 559 00:29:44,180 --> 00:29:47,900 With false news being shared more and reaching more people, 560 00:29:47,900 --> 00:29:49,940 how do we combat it? 561 00:29:49,940 --> 00:29:52,980 I think technology and deception is kind of like an arms race. 562 00:29:52,980 --> 00:29:55,860 So we do get more tools to deceive other people, 563 00:29:55,860 --> 00:29:58,060 this is what fake news is taking advantage of, 564 00:29:58,060 --> 00:30:01,900 but at the same time we get tools that we can detect deception. 565 00:30:01,900 --> 00:30:03,220 So, take the headline, 566 00:30:03,220 --> 00:30:06,180 copy the headline and put it into the search bar. 567 00:30:06,180 --> 00:30:07,580 That's as simple as it is. 568 00:30:07,580 --> 00:30:11,260 Deception ability increases, but then detection increases. 569 00:30:11,260 --> 00:30:12,900 So, I don't think, overall, 570 00:30:12,900 --> 00:30:16,340 technology makes it harder for us to detect deception. 571 00:30:21,820 --> 00:30:23,700 The first part of the experiment 572 00:30:23,700 --> 00:30:27,460 studying how we lie in the real world is complete. 573 00:30:27,460 --> 00:30:31,980 Hello again. How are you? Hi, Ruth. Hi. 574 00:30:31,980 --> 00:30:35,620 Its purpose was to take deception studies out of the lab and discover, 575 00:30:35,620 --> 00:30:39,700 for the first time, how deceptive we are in our everyday lives. 576 00:30:39,700 --> 00:30:42,540 So, the technology has been examining your behaviour. 577 00:30:42,540 --> 00:30:45,580 Now, what we're with you is sometimes you omit details 578 00:30:45,580 --> 00:30:47,420 and you go off on other paths. 579 00:30:47,420 --> 00:30:50,980 It's distracting somebody from the question they've asked 580 00:30:50,980 --> 00:30:53,300 that you don't want to answer - is that really lying? 581 00:30:53,300 --> 00:30:57,980 Well, interestingly, scientists view it as a form of lying. 582 00:30:57,980 --> 00:30:59,660 OK, so I didn't realise that, 583 00:30:59,660 --> 00:31:01,820 the technology was going to pick up omission. 584 00:31:01,820 --> 00:31:04,540 I thought that I was going to be able to use that really well, 585 00:31:04,540 --> 00:31:06,740 and really cunningly, to not lie. 586 00:31:08,180 --> 00:31:10,820 So, Mo, that meeting you had with some clients 587 00:31:10,820 --> 00:31:14,060 seemed fairly intense to me and, when you are in those scenarios, 588 00:31:14,060 --> 00:31:18,180 do you feel you're, kind of, almost projecting an alternative you, 589 00:31:18,180 --> 00:31:21,540 and to what extent is that a lie? 590 00:31:21,540 --> 00:31:24,820 It is a performance, to some extent. 591 00:31:24,820 --> 00:31:27,540 In that way, I think it's not entirely honest. 592 00:31:27,540 --> 00:31:30,860 I've got a deep interest in how society is increasingly favouring 593 00:31:30,860 --> 00:31:34,140 the extrovert - the person who is happy to be gregarious 594 00:31:34,140 --> 00:31:36,980 and go to all of the meetings, and presenting all the time - 595 00:31:36,980 --> 00:31:39,820 over the introvert - who has to make a lot of effort 596 00:31:39,820 --> 00:31:42,020 to fit into that society. 597 00:31:42,020 --> 00:31:44,460 Yeah, it's funny because I think most of my clients 598 00:31:44,460 --> 00:31:47,500 would assume I'm like that all the time and I'm not really. 599 00:31:47,500 --> 00:31:49,380 So, it is difficult. 600 00:31:51,060 --> 00:31:53,620 To truly study the effect lying has on society, 601 00:31:53,620 --> 00:31:57,500 the experts have a radical second part to their experiment, 602 00:31:57,500 --> 00:32:01,820 challenging the participants to live completely honestly 24/7 603 00:32:01,820 --> 00:32:06,100 for a whole week. For a week, we just want you to be fully honest. 604 00:32:06,100 --> 00:32:09,060 So, what does that mean? What do we expect from you? 605 00:32:09,060 --> 00:32:13,940 Fabrications, downright lies - those aren't allowed. 606 00:32:14,460 --> 00:32:17,900 These lies of omissions, I think, are off the table. 607 00:32:17,900 --> 00:32:22,260 I'm just trying to imagine doing this and it sounds difficult. 608 00:32:22,260 --> 00:32:24,780 I'm really excited to get some new insight 609 00:32:24,780 --> 00:32:26,540 into if it's really possible 610 00:32:26,540 --> 00:32:28,580 to not lie for an entire week. 611 00:32:28,580 --> 00:32:31,620 We are hoping that we see some behavioural change 612 00:32:31,620 --> 00:32:34,660 and also a better understanding of when it's appropriate 613 00:32:34,660 --> 00:32:36,260 and not appropriate to lie. 614 00:32:37,300 --> 00:32:39,540 They'll keep wearing the smartwatch 615 00:32:39,540 --> 00:32:41,700 to provide the scientists with data 616 00:32:41,700 --> 00:32:45,180 and it will also act as a reminder to be honest. 617 00:32:45,180 --> 00:32:46,660 Hi there, day five... 618 00:32:46,660 --> 00:32:49,380 They'll all be keeping in close contact with the scientists 619 00:32:49,380 --> 00:32:51,100 throughout, via video diaries. 620 00:32:59,660 --> 00:33:03,500 For Ruth in Yorkshire, whose aim is always to be kind, 621 00:33:03,500 --> 00:33:07,780 she's off to a slow start on her dishonesty detox. 622 00:33:07,780 --> 00:33:11,420 This morning, I went for an appointment and, on the way, 623 00:33:11,420 --> 00:33:15,180 I met a couple of people, who seemed really pleased to see me. 624 00:33:15,180 --> 00:33:17,020 But I didn't know who they were. 625 00:33:17,020 --> 00:33:20,780 Now this is incredibly embarrassing and I didn't say, 626 00:33:20,780 --> 00:33:23,660 "I'm sorry I don't remember you, or know who you are." 627 00:33:23,660 --> 00:33:27,500 That would have been quite hurtful to think that you weren't memorable. 628 00:33:27,500 --> 00:33:32,060 So, I played along and I asked them lots of neutral questions 629 00:33:32,060 --> 00:33:34,580 and I think that I convinced them 630 00:33:34,580 --> 00:33:36,460 that I knew who they were 631 00:33:36,460 --> 00:33:39,460 and that I remembered about their life. 632 00:33:39,460 --> 00:33:42,300 But, actually, I didn't have a clue. 633 00:33:44,940 --> 00:33:48,780 The scientists have learned that Ruth often tells little white lies 634 00:33:48,780 --> 00:33:52,100 and lies by omission to be kind to other people. 635 00:33:52,100 --> 00:33:55,900 So, they challenged her not to do this during her week of honesty, 636 00:33:55,900 --> 00:33:58,540 to study the effect it has. 637 00:34:00,180 --> 00:34:03,060 Ruth's role as a parish priest is one that's fraught with tension, 638 00:34:03,060 --> 00:34:06,140 in terms of her relationship with deception. 639 00:34:06,140 --> 00:34:08,940 She's got to navigate being honest to many people 640 00:34:08,940 --> 00:34:11,100 who have put a lot of trust in her, 641 00:34:11,100 --> 00:34:14,020 while also not needlessly upsetting them, or 642 00:34:14,020 --> 00:34:17,860 turning them away from the good work that they're doing in the church. 643 00:34:19,300 --> 00:34:21,580 How will she, and those around her, cope 644 00:34:21,580 --> 00:34:25,740 when that perceived kindness is taken away? 645 00:34:25,740 --> 00:34:29,220 Ruth is conducting her weekly church committee meeting. 646 00:34:29,220 --> 00:34:30,660 Good morning. Thank you. 647 00:34:31,860 --> 00:34:36,580 I'm looking at the agenda for this morning and, so far, 648 00:34:36,580 --> 00:34:41,420 we have, "Looking at the worship for the duration of March," 649 00:34:41,420 --> 00:34:46,060 and we are talking about what we're going to do for our grand opening 650 00:34:46,060 --> 00:34:47,340 of the building. 651 00:34:47,340 --> 00:34:50,140 Are there any other items you want to go on the agenda? 652 00:34:50,140 --> 00:34:52,580 I don't think so. OK. 653 00:34:52,580 --> 00:34:55,220 If we start with the fun thing, 654 00:34:55,220 --> 00:34:59,620 which is the worship in March, I just want to... 655 00:34:59,620 --> 00:35:04,300 We do have this concept about speaking the truth to one another 656 00:35:04,300 --> 00:35:06,180 in love, in order to stop another person 657 00:35:06,180 --> 00:35:08,020 going in a different direction, 658 00:35:08,020 --> 00:35:11,060 or for the harmonious relationships within the church. 659 00:35:11,060 --> 00:35:13,900 I particularly, as the parish priest, 660 00:35:13,900 --> 00:35:16,060 have an obligation to do that. 661 00:35:16,060 --> 00:35:17,980 So, I think we've arrived at 662 00:35:17,980 --> 00:35:20,820 a fairly decent consensus on everything, 663 00:35:20,820 --> 00:35:23,860 so we'll just conclude with the grace, unless... 664 00:35:23,860 --> 00:35:26,460 Sam, you look like you want to say something else. 665 00:35:26,460 --> 00:35:29,500 Yes, I think, just a piece of AOB. 666 00:35:29,500 --> 00:35:33,020 I think the standing committee ought to have a brief report 667 00:35:33,020 --> 00:35:34,620 on the situation on the gas. 668 00:35:35,860 --> 00:35:38,100 I was about to conclude, 669 00:35:38,100 --> 00:35:41,660 but then someone came in with more any other business. 670 00:35:41,660 --> 00:35:43,140 I wouldn't have really minded, 671 00:35:43,140 --> 00:35:45,780 except that I'd asked at the beginning of the meeting 672 00:35:45,780 --> 00:35:47,220 what the agenda items were, 673 00:35:47,220 --> 00:35:50,940 so that I could time the meeting properly, get it finished on time. 674 00:35:50,940 --> 00:35:55,740 As you know, the gas leak was discovered finally last Friday 675 00:35:55,740 --> 00:35:58,820 and that...they've had to put a stop, 676 00:35:58,820 --> 00:36:02,660 an emergency stop on the gas, so we've had no heating since then. 677 00:36:02,660 --> 00:36:07,340 So, I was quite irritated, in a way, by that, 678 00:36:07,340 --> 00:36:12,420 so I decided that it would be an act of omission to ignore that. 679 00:36:13,820 --> 00:36:17,900 I think it would be better if in future, if... 680 00:36:17,900 --> 00:36:22,580 If we, sort of, had all the agenda items at the beginning, 681 00:36:22,580 --> 00:36:27,620 you know, rather than some of this stuff coming up at the end. 682 00:36:28,500 --> 00:36:32,340 Whilst I do want to know about the gas, it... 683 00:36:32,340 --> 00:36:36,300 You know, I got a little bit ambushed by stuff at the end. 684 00:36:36,300 --> 00:36:39,620 I didn't like doing it, I did feel uncomfortable. 685 00:36:39,620 --> 00:36:41,900 I have great empathy with my people, 686 00:36:41,900 --> 00:36:45,940 they work really hard and sometimes they get things wrong. 687 00:36:45,940 --> 00:36:47,780 But I had stated that was the way 688 00:36:47,780 --> 00:36:51,220 I wanted meetings to run and they'd forgotten. 689 00:36:51,220 --> 00:36:53,260 The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ 690 00:36:53,260 --> 00:36:56,780 and love of God in the Fellowship of the Holy Spirit... 691 00:36:56,780 --> 00:37:00,740 So I think, in the long run, it'll probably be beneficial, 692 00:37:00,740 --> 00:37:02,860 but I didn't like doing it. 693 00:37:02,860 --> 00:37:05,100 Thank you, there we go. 694 00:37:05,100 --> 00:37:07,060 Thank you. 695 00:37:12,940 --> 00:37:15,940 Hello there, guys. My Uber is here. 696 00:37:15,940 --> 00:37:19,420 How are you guys doing? Today is day one of the... 697 00:37:19,420 --> 00:37:22,500 Hi, it's me. OK... 698 00:37:22,500 --> 00:37:24,980 Got to have an Uber this morning, I mean this afternoon, 699 00:37:24,980 --> 00:37:26,180 cos I've got work now. 700 00:37:26,180 --> 00:37:27,980 Hi, you all right? 701 00:37:27,980 --> 00:37:31,020 Sorry, don't mind me, I'm talking to my camera. 702 00:37:31,020 --> 00:37:32,700 I've got a project to do. 703 00:37:34,340 --> 00:37:38,300 I think Ehiz will find his week of living honestly difficult. 704 00:37:38,300 --> 00:37:42,220 I think the embellishments and exaggeration he includes 705 00:37:42,220 --> 00:37:46,500 are so much part of him and his storytelling, and who he is, 706 00:37:46,500 --> 00:37:51,540 to remove those and to eliminate them from every aspect of his life 707 00:37:51,900 --> 00:37:54,180 will really mean redefining who Ehiz is 708 00:37:54,180 --> 00:37:56,620 and that's going to be a real challenge. 709 00:37:59,220 --> 00:38:01,740 OK, that's when the beat came in and I had to keep quiet 710 00:38:01,740 --> 00:38:06,420 because it was just...on another level, it was just so cool. 711 00:38:06,420 --> 00:38:09,820 The videos that I actually do enjoy a lot is... 712 00:38:09,820 --> 00:38:12,060 ..making reaction videos to a song, 713 00:38:12,060 --> 00:38:13,860 that maybe an artist may have, 714 00:38:13,860 --> 00:38:16,940 you know, recently released. 715 00:38:16,940 --> 00:38:19,980 The scientists want to study the impact that lying has 716 00:38:19,980 --> 00:38:22,300 on our society and, for Ehiz, 717 00:38:22,300 --> 00:38:25,860 that means both his offline and online personas. 718 00:38:27,340 --> 00:38:29,300 Hey, yay. 719 00:38:31,580 --> 00:38:33,940 ON VIDEO: I actually loved it. Do you know what? 720 00:38:33,940 --> 00:38:37,540 I'm literally just so much, I'm too much. I'm honestly so much... 721 00:38:37,540 --> 00:38:40,900 I laugh because it's so funny, you know, just to see how comical I am. 722 00:38:42,700 --> 00:38:46,540 Having created an exaggerated alter ego of himself both online 723 00:38:46,540 --> 00:38:49,940 and in the real world, what impact will it have on Ehiz 724 00:38:49,940 --> 00:38:53,740 to revert to complete honesty for the first time in years? 725 00:38:53,740 --> 00:38:55,380 Hello, guys it's me... 726 00:38:58,020 --> 00:38:59,420 What you do post online 727 00:38:59,420 --> 00:39:02,220 sometimes isn't all what life is behind the camera. 728 00:39:03,220 --> 00:39:07,220 I came up with this persona called Jordan Banks. 729 00:39:07,220 --> 00:39:09,060 That's not my name, it's not my birth name, 730 00:39:09,060 --> 00:39:11,940 but it's almost like an alter ego. 731 00:39:11,940 --> 00:39:14,620 Having a hard time in secondary school didn't help 732 00:39:14,620 --> 00:39:17,260 and it got to a point where I didn't even know, in myself, 733 00:39:17,260 --> 00:39:18,740 what my identity was. 734 00:39:18,740 --> 00:39:21,020 And it ended up leading to a lot of depression you know. 735 00:39:21,020 --> 00:39:23,180 Didn't talk to anybody, had no friends. 736 00:39:23,180 --> 00:39:27,540 But I've always had this persona to give me a confidence boost 737 00:39:27,540 --> 00:39:30,540 and it helped me in a really big way because, you know, 738 00:39:30,540 --> 00:39:34,140 every single time I thought about Jordan Banks, his life was perfect, 739 00:39:34,140 --> 00:39:37,580 you know. He had friends, he had money, 740 00:39:37,580 --> 00:39:39,180 he had everything 741 00:39:39,180 --> 00:39:41,420 and I always look towards that as motivation. 742 00:39:43,460 --> 00:39:46,540 One of the things about Ehiz is he's a very creative individual. 743 00:39:46,540 --> 00:39:49,540 It is interesting, though, to think about what we call 744 00:39:49,540 --> 00:39:51,580 the "dark side" of creativity. 745 00:39:52,900 --> 00:39:56,700 People who are particularly creative can lie more, 746 00:39:56,700 --> 00:40:01,140 can be more inclined to choose a slightly more creative moral route, 747 00:40:01,140 --> 00:40:04,180 let's say, which I think is really interesting. 748 00:40:04,180 --> 00:40:06,780 Even just suggesting creativity to people, 749 00:40:06,780 --> 00:40:09,540 one of the ways in which they then start 750 00:40:09,540 --> 00:40:12,620 to exploit that is by being more deceptive. 751 00:40:12,620 --> 00:40:16,220 The scientists don't hear much from Ehiz for a few days, 752 00:40:16,220 --> 00:40:18,820 and then they get this. 753 00:40:18,820 --> 00:40:22,460 I was meant to go into work today, but I called in sick. 754 00:40:22,460 --> 00:40:24,500 Yeah... 755 00:40:24,500 --> 00:40:26,940 It's not going to happen. Um... 756 00:40:26,940 --> 00:40:28,740 I feel like 757 00:40:28,740 --> 00:40:31,420 it's going to affect the experiment in a big way 758 00:40:31,420 --> 00:40:34,420 because I'm trying to use this week as much as possible 759 00:40:34,420 --> 00:40:37,140 to live as truthfully as possible 760 00:40:37,140 --> 00:40:39,860 and I'm restricted from doing that today 761 00:40:39,860 --> 00:40:41,540 because of my illness. 762 00:40:44,220 --> 00:40:48,260 100% honesty may be proving too much for Ehiz. 763 00:40:50,900 --> 00:40:54,140 Introvert advertising exec Mo, on the other hand, 764 00:40:54,140 --> 00:40:57,940 is taking to the idea of telling people what she really thinks, 765 00:40:57,940 --> 00:41:00,860 rather than saying, "Yes," when she means, "No." 766 00:41:00,860 --> 00:41:03,020 Are you going? Yeah. 767 00:41:03,020 --> 00:41:06,940 So, I just told the truth quite consciously, then. 768 00:41:06,940 --> 00:41:11,340 We just saw a couple of people and Sofia asked me, 769 00:41:11,340 --> 00:41:12,820 "Do you want to stop and say hello?" 770 00:41:12,820 --> 00:41:15,580 And normally I would have said, "Yeah, sure, let's say hello." 771 00:41:15,580 --> 00:41:17,900 This time I said, "No, I don't, really." 772 00:41:22,620 --> 00:41:25,660 But how will Mo cope in a high-pressure work situation, 773 00:41:25,660 --> 00:41:28,660 where she has to be assertive to stick to the experiment? 774 00:41:30,100 --> 00:41:34,980 What I want is to get these three musicians - Maxine, Matthew... 775 00:41:34,980 --> 00:41:38,620 Mo, I think has a lot of potential for learning during this week. 776 00:41:38,620 --> 00:41:40,860 I think she'll find it challenging, 777 00:41:40,860 --> 00:41:43,380 but also I think she could find it quite liberating, 778 00:41:43,380 --> 00:41:47,180 as she begins to realise that, actually, being more honest 779 00:41:47,180 --> 00:41:50,420 has a lot of positive, as well as negative, consequences. 780 00:41:51,820 --> 00:41:55,780 Mo has a new commission from the Musicians' Union. 781 00:41:55,780 --> 00:41:58,540 First, she's filming some social media content for them, 782 00:41:58,540 --> 00:42:01,700 and then she's meeting her client to discuss. 783 00:42:01,700 --> 00:42:03,620 It might be a bit tricky to navigate today 784 00:42:03,620 --> 00:42:06,500 because I'm meeting my client, Naomi. 785 00:42:06,500 --> 00:42:09,460 When you have a new client, you're generally trying to put 786 00:42:09,460 --> 00:42:11,340 a good impression across, you know, 787 00:42:11,340 --> 00:42:14,580 look like you're completely in control, those kind of things, 788 00:42:14,580 --> 00:42:17,140 and also we might be talking a little bit about budget 789 00:42:17,140 --> 00:42:19,660 and we're always really transparent with costs, 790 00:42:19,660 --> 00:42:22,580 but I just hope there's no tricky questions around that. 791 00:42:24,540 --> 00:42:26,460 Off to meet the new client. 792 00:42:27,580 --> 00:42:29,620 I think we're on time. Good, yeah. 793 00:42:34,300 --> 00:42:37,140 Thanks for meeting me, Naomi. No worries. 794 00:42:37,140 --> 00:42:39,380 Really excited about kicking this off. 795 00:42:39,380 --> 00:42:41,580 So, did you want to show me some stuff? 796 00:42:41,580 --> 00:42:44,100 Yeah, this is all the video. Just little moments, like this. 797 00:42:44,100 --> 00:42:45,700 MUSIC BLARES I'll turn it down... 798 00:42:47,500 --> 00:42:50,380 They were just getting their instruments out. 799 00:42:50,380 --> 00:42:54,180 It sounds good, even though they're just warming up, doesn't it? Yeah. 800 00:42:54,180 --> 00:42:56,860 In terms of format, has that been discussed on your side? 801 00:42:56,860 --> 00:42:59,460 There might be a possibility of making a connection 802 00:42:59,460 --> 00:43:02,300 with a cinema chain and actually getting some cinema ads, 803 00:43:02,300 --> 00:43:04,540 so do you think we might be able to do that 804 00:43:04,540 --> 00:43:07,220 with the footage that we've got or...? 805 00:43:07,220 --> 00:43:10,580 Well, I think... I think it's a great idea. 806 00:43:10,580 --> 00:43:13,700 There's a slight change in request for the content we're doing 807 00:43:13,700 --> 00:43:17,340 to be maybe made for a cinema, when it was always for social. 808 00:43:17,340 --> 00:43:19,220 That wasn't in the original brief. 809 00:43:19,220 --> 00:43:22,100 Normally, I'd be like, "Yes, yes, yes," cos that's client service 810 00:43:22,100 --> 00:43:25,140 but I'm trying to be as honest as I can. 811 00:43:25,140 --> 00:43:27,380 I think, you know, with cinema in mind, 812 00:43:27,380 --> 00:43:29,940 I probably would have done it slightly differently, 813 00:43:29,940 --> 00:43:31,980 or we would have set it up... 814 00:43:31,980 --> 00:43:34,620 I think I need to go away and have a think about it 815 00:43:34,620 --> 00:43:37,260 but, at the moment, it's not set up 816 00:43:37,260 --> 00:43:41,140 to be, sort of, displayed on the cinema screen. 817 00:43:41,140 --> 00:43:43,460 It would have budgetary implications. 818 00:43:43,460 --> 00:43:46,620 It WOULD have budgetary implications, yeah. 819 00:43:46,620 --> 00:43:50,060 It felt good being a bit more... Clearer, I suppose, 820 00:43:50,060 --> 00:43:52,700 but there were definite moments where I was like, 821 00:43:52,700 --> 00:43:55,300 "Ooh, I'm being a bit fluffy," I think. 822 00:43:55,300 --> 00:43:58,700 And I don't think that was good for her or me, so it wasn't ideal. 823 00:44:00,820 --> 00:44:04,900 In a bid to study how and why we lie in our normal lives, 824 00:44:04,900 --> 00:44:06,500 this experiment is pushing 825 00:44:06,500 --> 00:44:09,020 all of our subjects out of their comfort zone. 826 00:44:09,020 --> 00:44:10,780 Cheers. Nice to see you. 827 00:44:12,060 --> 00:44:15,100 Mo meets best friend Alice and partner Sofia 828 00:44:15,100 --> 00:44:17,820 to discuss how she's finding the experience. 829 00:44:18,940 --> 00:44:21,740 So, how did the meeting go this morning? 830 00:44:21,740 --> 00:44:25,220 I think I probably wasn't as direct as I could have been, in terms 831 00:44:25,220 --> 00:44:27,780 of going, "Well, that wasn't in the original scope." 832 00:44:27,780 --> 00:44:30,300 What was it that makes you not do it, you know? 833 00:44:30,300 --> 00:44:32,300 Because in that moment, what's the first thing 834 00:44:32,300 --> 00:44:34,940 that happens in your head? I just want to please them. 835 00:44:34,940 --> 00:44:37,820 Yeah. I want to accommodate them as a new client 836 00:44:37,820 --> 00:44:40,820 and make them feel reassured and happy. 837 00:44:40,820 --> 00:44:43,180 If this was the old me, 838 00:44:43,180 --> 00:44:45,100 or if this was before this week, 839 00:44:45,100 --> 00:44:47,980 I wouldn't have even tried to be more direct. 840 00:44:47,980 --> 00:44:51,220 No. So, do you think that that is a shift? 841 00:44:51,220 --> 00:44:55,380 Yeah. You're much more aware of when you're being honest and you're not, 842 00:44:55,380 --> 00:45:00,420 but you haven't quite tipped into consistently being honest. 843 00:45:00,580 --> 00:45:02,380 I want to be more. 844 00:45:02,380 --> 00:45:05,820 I just... Have to find a way you feel comfortable. 845 00:45:05,820 --> 00:45:07,900 Yeah. I suppose so. I don't want to... 846 00:45:07,900 --> 00:45:09,900 Yeah. 847 00:45:09,900 --> 00:45:12,100 Are you all right? Yeah. 848 00:45:12,100 --> 00:45:13,700 Oh, no... 849 00:45:14,740 --> 00:45:17,100 Oh, what's so hard? 850 00:45:17,100 --> 00:45:18,580 Don't know. 851 00:45:21,820 --> 00:45:24,180 I just don't want to feel like I'm going around being fake 852 00:45:24,180 --> 00:45:26,060 and having fake relationships, 853 00:45:26,060 --> 00:45:29,420 and putting on a front in a way that's, like, disingenuous. 854 00:45:29,420 --> 00:45:31,580 And do you think you're doing that? 855 00:45:31,580 --> 00:45:32,860 I don't think I am. 856 00:45:32,860 --> 00:45:37,500 I don't think I am, but if I'm not been totally direct 857 00:45:37,500 --> 00:45:39,300 then maybe I am, you know. 858 00:45:40,500 --> 00:45:44,420 Best friend Alice has known Mo for 20 years. 859 00:45:44,420 --> 00:45:48,500 I don't think that she inherently feels that who she really is 860 00:45:48,500 --> 00:45:52,140 is a totally OK thing to show the world. 861 00:45:52,140 --> 00:45:56,980 There is such a fear of being told that she is wrong 862 00:45:56,980 --> 00:46:00,020 or being inappropriate in any way, 863 00:46:00,020 --> 00:46:02,940 and I do think that it's holding her back, 864 00:46:02,940 --> 00:46:05,940 actually, from, kind of, proper happiness. 865 00:46:07,660 --> 00:46:10,220 You know, I'm halfway through on day four. 866 00:46:10,220 --> 00:46:12,900 But I don't think I've fully, full throttle, you know, 867 00:46:12,900 --> 00:46:15,100 been to be truthful and honest. 868 00:46:15,100 --> 00:46:18,340 I don't think I have done that yet. 869 00:46:18,340 --> 00:46:22,180 Yeah, I'm getting a bit upset but I think it's more like... 870 00:46:22,180 --> 00:46:24,020 It's quite a deep, in a way. 871 00:46:37,020 --> 00:46:39,660 is her weekly school assembly. 872 00:46:39,660 --> 00:46:42,300 So, Ruth, we see lies by omission. 873 00:46:42,300 --> 00:46:44,260 It's a common thing many of us do. 874 00:46:45,380 --> 00:46:49,700 At assembly, I want to give genuine feedback to the children. 875 00:46:49,700 --> 00:46:52,900 Maybe me just smiling and saying, "Ooh, yes, 876 00:46:52,900 --> 00:46:56,620 "that's nice," doesn't help the children to learn and grow. 877 00:46:56,620 --> 00:47:01,540 The story we're going to have today is called The Boy Who Cries Wolf. 878 00:47:02,580 --> 00:47:07,180 That will be quite difficult because you don't want to hurt the 879 00:47:07,180 --> 00:47:10,940 children's feelings and you do need to be really careful. 880 00:47:10,940 --> 00:47:15,420 Do you think the boy found it easier to cry wolf 881 00:47:15,420 --> 00:47:17,260 the first time, 882 00:47:17,260 --> 00:47:20,500 the second time, or the third time? 883 00:47:20,500 --> 00:47:24,940 I think the first one was easy because they actually believed you, 884 00:47:24,940 --> 00:47:28,020 cos it was the first time you shouted it. 885 00:47:28,020 --> 00:47:30,820 Now, I think you're answering a question 886 00:47:30,820 --> 00:47:33,700 that is different to the question I'm asking. 887 00:47:33,700 --> 00:47:36,740 I think what I did differently in the assembly was that 888 00:47:36,740 --> 00:47:39,780 I was less affirming of the answers 889 00:47:39,780 --> 00:47:43,140 that weren't giving me what I was hoping 890 00:47:43,140 --> 00:47:44,660 the question would deliver. 891 00:47:44,660 --> 00:47:46,700 What do you think this means? 892 00:47:46,700 --> 00:47:49,740 "What do you do makes you who you are." 893 00:47:51,060 --> 00:47:54,580 Well, what you normally do is the best thing 894 00:47:54,580 --> 00:47:56,300 to what you should do 895 00:47:56,300 --> 00:48:01,020 because what you normally do is being yourself, so yeah. 896 00:48:01,020 --> 00:48:02,620 OK, so you think... 897 00:48:02,620 --> 00:48:04,100 That's not quite what I meant, 898 00:48:04,100 --> 00:48:05,580 but it's a good thought, isn't it? 899 00:48:05,580 --> 00:48:09,180 But the children need to know that, whilst your thought was interesting, 900 00:48:09,180 --> 00:48:12,100 it wasn't exactly what I was looking for and maybe if you'd listen to 901 00:48:12,100 --> 00:48:13,620 the question a bit more carefully, 902 00:48:13,620 --> 00:48:16,660 you would have come up with the answer that I was looking for. 903 00:48:16,660 --> 00:48:20,220 If everyone was the same and told the same lies, 904 00:48:20,220 --> 00:48:23,580 and everything like that, the world would be a pretty boring place. 905 00:48:23,580 --> 00:48:25,300 If everybody was different. 906 00:48:25,300 --> 00:48:27,540 If everybody was the same, it would be boring. 907 00:48:27,540 --> 00:48:29,340 But that's not what I meant either. 908 00:48:31,380 --> 00:48:33,620 Who's blowing the candles out? 909 00:48:33,620 --> 00:48:35,780 It didn't seem to upset anybody. 910 00:48:35,780 --> 00:48:39,740 The children were happy enough and I had been sufficiently affirming. 911 00:48:43,980 --> 00:48:45,620 Honesty is a tricky thing to define. 912 00:48:45,620 --> 00:48:47,300 Clearly, there are some things where 913 00:48:47,300 --> 00:48:50,500 we are being deliberately dishonest when we are answering a question 914 00:48:50,500 --> 00:48:53,340 with a fib, which is clearly not true and then there's clear truth, 915 00:48:53,340 --> 00:48:55,380 where we're being absolutely honest and telling 916 00:48:55,380 --> 00:48:58,580 the person everything. In that grey middle area, 917 00:48:58,580 --> 00:49:02,820 is this notion of things like omissions, where we leave out 918 00:49:02,820 --> 00:49:06,940 information that might be wanted, but also the notion that if I tell 919 00:49:06,940 --> 00:49:09,940 you everything that comes into my mind, every single detail, 920 00:49:09,940 --> 00:49:12,420 that seems to go a little bit beyond the notion of truth. 921 00:49:16,100 --> 00:49:21,140 So, do you think that not telling somebody something is a lie, 922 00:49:25,620 --> 00:49:27,900 You omit to tell them something. 923 00:49:27,900 --> 00:49:31,580 Ruth and her husband Andrew are still struggling with the question 924 00:49:31,580 --> 00:49:36,140 of exactly how far she should go with telling the whole truth. 925 00:49:36,140 --> 00:49:38,020 So, you're being really annoying, 926 00:49:38,020 --> 00:49:42,100 asking me to take your shoe on and off on and off, do I have to say, 927 00:49:42,100 --> 00:49:43,340 in order to be truthful, 928 00:49:43,340 --> 00:49:48,060 "This is really annoying, Andrew, taking your shoe on and off?" 929 00:49:48,060 --> 00:49:49,580 Or do I just keep it to myself? 930 00:49:51,220 --> 00:49:55,300 We're not fighting. We have discovered a robust area 931 00:49:55,300 --> 00:49:57,900 of disagreement, that's all. 932 00:49:57,900 --> 00:50:01,780 Andrew thinks she should go further with her truth telling. 933 00:50:01,780 --> 00:50:06,460 By omitting to say something, do you actually improve this situation? 934 00:50:06,460 --> 00:50:10,580 So, every time that I'm finding it frustrating, 935 00:50:10,580 --> 00:50:12,780 every time I'm finding it annoying, 936 00:50:12,780 --> 00:50:15,620 every time you've done something that I think 937 00:50:15,620 --> 00:50:18,500 is a bit embarrassing or you've said something 938 00:50:18,500 --> 00:50:22,220 to somebody that I wish you hadn't, every time you do that, 939 00:50:22,220 --> 00:50:23,740 if I think that, I'm to tell you? 940 00:50:23,740 --> 00:50:25,860 Yeah. It won't make any difference. 941 00:50:25,860 --> 00:50:29,020 I think we'll get divorced. It won't make any difference. 942 00:50:29,020 --> 00:50:32,860 I want you to concentrate on doing lies of omission 943 00:50:32,860 --> 00:50:35,260 and not telling me things that I don't want to hear, 944 00:50:35,260 --> 00:50:39,580 so I don't want to know if my dress isn't as good as it was yesterday. 945 00:50:39,580 --> 00:50:41,900 Because I think that's just rude. 946 00:50:41,900 --> 00:50:44,260 I think volunteering information 947 00:50:44,260 --> 00:50:47,020 that people don't ask for and don't want is rude. 948 00:50:50,540 --> 00:50:53,780 Each participant, by the end of this week, seems to have a notion 949 00:50:53,780 --> 00:50:57,580 of where to draw the line, in terms of honesty being the best policy, 950 00:50:57,580 --> 00:50:59,900 so Ruth has said, "I'm very happy to lie 951 00:50:59,900 --> 00:51:04,540 "when it's for the benefit of others. I'm really not happy to lie 952 00:51:04,540 --> 00:51:07,380 "when it's for my own benefit, or unnecessary." 953 00:51:07,380 --> 00:51:10,180 So she's drawn a line in the sand there and 954 00:51:10,180 --> 00:51:13,060 I hope she continues to stick to that line. 955 00:51:14,100 --> 00:51:19,180 So, today is the last day and here is me taking the truth watch off 956 00:51:19,300 --> 00:51:23,220 for the last time and hoping that its effects 957 00:51:23,220 --> 00:51:25,220 are going to be long-lasting 958 00:51:25,220 --> 00:51:28,020 and that my conscience is now as sensitive as the watch. 959 00:51:32,300 --> 00:51:33,780 Good morning, guys. 960 00:51:33,780 --> 00:51:36,100 Well, no, good afternoon, really. 961 00:51:36,100 --> 00:51:39,500 After calling in sick to the experiment for a few days, 962 00:51:39,500 --> 00:51:41,700 Ehiz is back in touch. 963 00:51:41,700 --> 00:51:43,780 The scientists have challenged him 964 00:51:43,780 --> 00:51:46,180 to make a totally authentic video blog, 965 00:51:46,180 --> 00:51:48,620 without exaggeration and embellishment. 966 00:51:48,620 --> 00:51:52,060 But for Ehiz, the challenge of living truthfully 967 00:51:52,060 --> 00:51:53,740 has proven too much. 968 00:51:53,740 --> 00:51:56,940 This week, it has tested me a lot. 969 00:51:56,940 --> 00:51:59,820 It has tested me in many, many areas. 970 00:51:59,820 --> 00:52:02,980 But making a YouTube video, being quite truthful, 971 00:52:02,980 --> 00:52:04,660 it wasn't going to work out. 972 00:52:04,660 --> 00:52:07,100 It just wasn't going to happen. 973 00:52:07,100 --> 00:52:10,740 I don't feel like my viewers would necessarily connect to that, 974 00:52:10,740 --> 00:52:12,180 as I would have wanted them to. 975 00:52:15,580 --> 00:52:17,540 What's new with you? 976 00:52:17,540 --> 00:52:19,500 This week, yeah, it's just been... 977 00:52:19,500 --> 00:52:21,060 It's been quite stressful. 978 00:52:21,060 --> 00:52:23,980 How so? Because obviously, I was ill for the first two days. 979 00:52:23,980 --> 00:52:27,820 Best friend Countessa wants to check up on his progress. 980 00:52:29,260 --> 00:52:32,020 Would you say that Jordan Banks is kind of a lie? 981 00:52:32,020 --> 00:52:35,180 No. For example, if I was to do, like, a story time on YouTube, 982 00:52:35,180 --> 00:52:37,300 for example, and I'm over exaggerating. 983 00:52:37,300 --> 00:52:39,820 You wouldn't necessarily feel like, "He's a liar," 984 00:52:39,820 --> 00:52:42,260 cos you're so caught up and immersed in what's going on. 985 00:52:42,260 --> 00:52:44,940 OK, so it's not a lie? No. It's a deception. It's a deception. Wow! 986 00:52:44,940 --> 00:52:46,980 When you compare the word deception and lie, 987 00:52:46,980 --> 00:52:49,620 are they not ever so slightly similar? Do they not cross paths? 988 00:52:49,620 --> 00:52:52,380 With deceptions, you don't necessarily feel you're lying, 989 00:52:52,380 --> 00:52:54,980 until you properly like think about it, whereas with lying, 990 00:52:54,980 --> 00:52:56,700 it's almost like guilt. 991 00:52:56,700 --> 00:52:59,540 You feel guilt. But with deceptions, in regards to Jordan Banks, 992 00:52:59,540 --> 00:53:01,340 it's always part of me. 993 00:53:02,740 --> 00:53:06,420 So, for Ehiz, deception isn't lying. 994 00:53:06,420 --> 00:53:08,860 He's found a way of justifying his lies 995 00:53:08,860 --> 00:53:11,100 and is choosing to stick with it. 996 00:53:11,100 --> 00:53:13,740 I feel like he was using Jordan Banks as a crutch 997 00:53:13,740 --> 00:53:16,620 and I feel like he's...been struggling. 998 00:53:16,620 --> 00:53:20,940 He's been struggling to keep the persona and be truthful. 999 00:53:20,940 --> 00:53:23,260 I feel like this is an act. 1000 00:53:23,260 --> 00:53:25,460 I feel like it's a facade. 1001 00:53:25,460 --> 00:53:27,140 He's a scam. It's a scam! 1002 00:53:29,540 --> 00:53:32,060 He's potentially finding this quite difficult 1003 00:53:32,060 --> 00:53:35,100 because there is a deceptive component to this alter ego 1004 00:53:35,100 --> 00:53:38,620 that he has, and I think he slips into it quite readily. 1005 00:53:38,620 --> 00:53:42,580 Which raises the idea that maybe deception is a slippery slope. 1006 00:53:42,580 --> 00:53:45,940 What we see is that people start to do it more, as they get more 1007 00:53:45,940 --> 00:53:49,300 opportunity to do it, but also it takes less of an emotional toll, 1008 00:53:49,300 --> 00:53:52,900 if you like, so basically it gets easier to lie as you move on. 1009 00:53:53,980 --> 00:53:57,660 So, I think very realistically, if it becomes central to your 1010 00:53:57,660 --> 00:54:00,780 character, then, yeah, it could become all-consuming. 1011 00:54:07,020 --> 00:54:08,580 Hi, Mum and Dad! 1012 00:54:08,580 --> 00:54:10,220 Hello. 1013 00:54:10,220 --> 00:54:14,220 What's this? Mo spent most of her 20s not being completely honest 1014 00:54:14,220 --> 00:54:16,540 with her family about her sexuality, 1015 00:54:16,540 --> 00:54:19,300 so wants to tell them all about the experiment. 1016 00:54:19,300 --> 00:54:21,540 Do you think you'll see any changes in me 1017 00:54:21,540 --> 00:54:24,820 after doing this week of truthfulness? 1018 00:54:24,820 --> 00:54:26,260 Like what? 1019 00:54:44,500 --> 00:54:46,780 Can you see that, yeah? 1020 00:54:56,700 --> 00:55:01,740 So, do you reckon you're going to keep it up, like, 1021 00:55:02,460 --> 00:55:05,860 trying to be more honest and direct? 1022 00:55:05,860 --> 00:55:08,500 I think I am going to try and keep it up because, 1023 00:55:08,500 --> 00:55:13,620 even though I don't think I was entirely successful this week, um, 1024 00:55:13,620 --> 00:55:18,540 the times I was a bit more truthful, a bit more focused on being honest, 1025 00:55:19,260 --> 00:55:21,300 I got really good results. 1026 00:55:26,700 --> 00:55:30,260 What I found amazing about Mo's behaviour this week 1027 00:55:30,260 --> 00:55:33,300 is that she's almost on a high of all the brave moments 1028 00:55:33,300 --> 00:55:34,940 that she had where she told 1029 00:55:34,940 --> 00:55:37,860 the truth and actually was getting very positive things of it, 1030 00:55:37,860 --> 00:55:39,940 and that's something that, in research, 1031 00:55:39,940 --> 00:55:41,660 we actually never really consider. 1032 00:55:41,660 --> 00:55:44,300 What happens when we're truthful rather than deceptive? 1033 00:55:44,300 --> 00:55:47,540 Because I think, in research, we assume people are truthful 1034 00:55:47,540 --> 00:55:51,140 most of the time and we focus on deception, 1035 00:55:51,140 --> 00:55:54,820 but actually this week has shown me that people are quite deceptive, 1036 00:55:54,820 --> 00:55:56,700 actually, a lot of the time. 1037 00:55:59,980 --> 00:56:02,940 The experiment is over. 1038 00:56:02,940 --> 00:56:06,780 It has provided a myriad of new data. 1039 00:56:06,780 --> 00:56:10,860 And surprising scientific insights into just how deeply ingrained 1040 00:56:10,860 --> 00:56:12,900 lying is into our behaviour. 1041 00:56:12,900 --> 00:56:15,620 We've seen people lie automatically, 1042 00:56:15,620 --> 00:56:19,060 or drop into deception just by force of habit. 1043 00:56:19,060 --> 00:56:21,780 Do you necessarily recognise when you're doing that? 1044 00:56:23,660 --> 00:56:27,740 This is the first time lying in our normal lives has been studied 1045 00:56:27,740 --> 00:56:31,980 in such depth, and the results on just how much we lie have defied 1046 00:56:31,980 --> 00:56:35,060 all previous expectations. 1047 00:56:35,060 --> 00:56:38,580 One of the big conclusions I'll take from this experiment is potentially 1048 00:56:38,580 --> 00:56:40,620 the fact that people are under-reporting 1049 00:56:40,620 --> 00:56:42,140 the number of lies they tell. 1050 00:56:42,140 --> 00:56:44,220 Yeah, they were fine. They were fine, yeah. 1051 00:56:44,220 --> 00:56:47,420 The one thing that I've learned is that we're all so much more 1052 00:56:47,420 --> 00:56:49,060 dishonest than we think we are. 1053 00:56:49,060 --> 00:56:50,700 Obviously, you do know, at times... 1054 00:56:50,700 --> 00:56:53,820 I think this week's experiment has shown that lying is a fundamental 1055 00:56:53,820 --> 00:56:55,540 part of being human. 1056 00:56:57,460 --> 00:57:00,860 The data has shown that even the most devout of us 1057 00:57:00,860 --> 00:57:03,460 lie on a daily basis. 1058 00:57:03,460 --> 00:57:06,140 But is all this lying bad for us? 1059 00:57:06,140 --> 00:57:09,660 I think I've learned that I am an ordinary person 1060 00:57:09,660 --> 00:57:12,820 and that I'm not spectacularly honest 1061 00:57:12,820 --> 00:57:15,460 and that I'm not spectacularly dishonest. 1062 00:57:15,460 --> 00:57:19,500 We have to lie sometimes to get what we want and sometimes lying actually 1063 00:57:19,500 --> 00:57:21,580 does help make things better. 1064 00:57:21,580 --> 00:57:24,820 We often have this black and white view that lying is a terrible thing, 1065 00:57:24,820 --> 00:57:28,060 when it's quite clear when watching all of the participants' 1066 00:57:28,060 --> 00:57:30,900 lives and there are times when they've felt that lying was a very 1067 00:57:30,900 --> 00:57:33,740 appropriate thing to do for the social glue. 1068 00:57:33,740 --> 00:57:37,140 When you have a certain job and whether that's being a priest, or 1069 00:57:37,140 --> 00:57:40,420 whether that is being a consultant and having to talk to people about 1070 00:57:40,420 --> 00:57:43,860 their projects and their companies, as the role you play for your 1071 00:57:43,860 --> 00:57:47,740 job, you often can't be honest because people will be so offended. 1072 00:57:47,740 --> 00:57:50,900 They probably don't want to watch, or listen to you any more. 1073 00:57:53,900 --> 00:57:58,500 This ground-breaking experiment has given scientists a unique glimpse 1074 00:57:58,500 --> 00:58:01,380 at what a world without lying might look like, 1075 00:58:01,380 --> 00:58:04,060 but is this a world we'd want to live in? 1076 00:58:06,660 --> 00:58:09,340 There are some really nasty lies that go on out there, 1077 00:58:09,340 --> 00:58:12,940 so ridding the world of scams and ridding the world of cheating 1078 00:58:12,940 --> 00:58:15,780 spouses and things might be a positive, 1079 00:58:15,780 --> 00:58:18,980 but no, I think the world would be a darker place, potentially, without 1080 00:58:18,980 --> 00:58:21,900 some of the more pro-social and positive sides of deception. 1081 00:58:21,900 --> 00:58:25,540 I think lying is pretty fundamental to human nature, in the sense that 1082 00:58:25,540 --> 00:58:28,380 a society without lying is probably a less successful one. 1083 00:58:29,700 --> 00:58:32,460 Can we live in a world without lying? 1084 00:58:32,460 --> 00:58:34,700 I'm not sure we could 1085 00:58:34,700 --> 00:58:37,140 and I'm certainly sure that we wouldn't want to. 94209

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