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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:12,888 --> 00:00:16,141 Dr. Baltz, uh, thank you for meeting with us again. 2 00:00:16,809 --> 00:00:20,771 W-We want to drill down on that fifth day. September 1st. 3 00:00:20,855 --> 00:00:21,897 We're all gonna die. 4 00:00:21,981 --> 00:00:24,067 It was anarchy. 5 00:00:24,149 --> 00:00:28,112 No one knew what was going on. No one was in charge. 6 00:00:28,196 --> 00:00:32,115 And decisions were made that should not have been made. 7 00:00:32,615 --> 00:00:35,286 We need to seriously lower our head count, 8 00:00:35,369 --> 00:00:38,999 and I think that you should evacuate with the next group. 9 00:00:39,082 --> 00:00:41,209 Evacuate? 10 00:00:41,292 --> 00:00:44,003 Susan, I can't evacuate, I'm a doctor. 11 00:00:44,087 --> 00:00:45,546 Doctors look after patients. 12 00:00:45,630 --> 00:00:49,718 Ho... Horace, there is nothing else any of us can do. 13 00:00:49,801 --> 00:00:52,429 I was told to get ready to leave, right then. 14 00:00:53,512 --> 00:00:59,060 That I was, um, going to be sent out on a rescue boat. 15 00:01:14,950 --> 00:01:17,120 I have a tremendous sense of guilt about it. 16 00:01:18,996 --> 00:01:21,665 About not staying there to the very end. 17 00:01:24,376 --> 00:01:25,378 You know, 18 00:01:27,046 --> 00:01:34,012 true heroism would have been to remember why we're doctors, 19 00:01:34,094 --> 00:01:37,640 and no matter how bad the circumstances are, 20 00:01:37,723 --> 00:01:41,645 to adhere to our oath, "Do no harm." 21 00:01:45,941 --> 00:01:51,070 But in all that chaos, people just cast off who they were. 22 00:01:51,655 --> 00:01:55,450 And this blindness just swept in and took over everything. 23 00:01:59,537 --> 00:02:02,040 I mean, it took over everything. 24 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:49,104 Afternoon, everybody. 25 00:03:49,897 --> 00:03:53,567 Memorial Hospital is a hospital in the city of New Orleans. 26 00:03:53,651 --> 00:03:56,570 It's a big hospital, been there a long time. 27 00:03:56,655 --> 00:04:00,366 Inside that hospital is a smaller hospital called Lakeside. 28 00:04:00,449 --> 00:04:01,450 LifeCare. 29 00:04:02,409 --> 00:04:05,372 LifeCare. LifeCare has acute care patients, 30 00:04:05,455 --> 00:04:08,917 some of whom, it is alleged, were killed by lethal injection. 31 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:12,920 Dr. Anna Pou and two nurses, Cheri Landry and Lori Budo, 32 00:04:13,003 --> 00:04:17,132 have been arrested on four charges of principal to second degree murder. 33 00:04:17,216 --> 00:04:22,639 Four patients were injected with morphine and "mazdolome." 34 00:04:23,639 --> 00:04:24,682 Midazolam. 35 00:04:24,766 --> 00:04:27,769 Midazolam, otherwise known as Versed. 36 00:04:28,769 --> 00:04:30,521 Now, either drug can kill you, 37 00:04:30,605 --> 00:04:33,274 but when you put them together, you get a lethal cocktail. 38 00:04:34,149 --> 00:04:37,194 Medical professionals perhaps thought maybe they were God. 39 00:04:37,278 --> 00:04:42,742 They were entrusted with looking after the safety of people who needed help. 40 00:04:42,826 --> 00:04:48,540 This is not euthanasia. This is plain and simple homicide. 41 00:04:49,165 --> 00:04:50,375 The case now goes 42 00:04:50,457 --> 00:04:54,170 to the offices of Orleans Parish district attorney, Eddie Jordan, 43 00:04:54,254 --> 00:04:57,632 who will choose whether to pursue indictments for murder from a grand jury. 44 00:04:57,716 --> 00:04:59,134 Thank you. 45 00:05:00,593 --> 00:05:02,887 More fallout from Hurricane Katrina on Tuesday... 46 00:05:02,971 --> 00:05:06,600 A doctor and two nurses are charged with murder. 47 00:05:06,682 --> 00:05:09,394 …facing charges that they murdered four patients 48 00:05:09,476 --> 00:05:11,146 at Memorial Hospital in New Orleans. 49 00:05:11,228 --> 00:05:14,440 What kind of law enforcement goes after doctors and nurses 50 00:05:14,524 --> 00:05:16,526 who stayed at their posts during a crisis? 51 00:05:17,110 --> 00:05:20,613 The attorney general's office arrested three upstanding medical professionals 52 00:05:20,697 --> 00:05:24,033 so he could have himself a media event to bolster his own reputation. 53 00:05:24,117 --> 00:05:26,036 Is your client, Dr. Pou, innocent? 54 00:05:26,119 --> 00:05:28,454 Yes. No doubt. Absolutely. 55 00:05:28,538 --> 00:05:30,749 There was no criminal misconduct. 56 00:05:31,374 --> 00:05:33,125 Here, you see this affidavit? 57 00:05:34,418 --> 00:05:36,499 This is just a piece of paper with allegations on it, 58 00:05:36,545 --> 00:05:39,341 and like every piece of paper, it's got two sides. 59 00:05:41,300 --> 00:05:44,930 There's no motive here, and there is no homicide. 60 00:05:47,139 --> 00:05:48,641 What am I gonna do, Vince? 61 00:05:49,225 --> 00:05:51,745 How can I go outside? I mean, what are people gonna think of me? 62 00:05:51,769 --> 00:05:53,187 What they're gonna think... 63 00:05:53,271 --> 00:05:57,024 They're gonna think you're being falsely persecuted, which you are. 64 00:05:59,485 --> 00:06:00,528 Yeah, hello? 65 00:06:01,821 --> 00:06:03,197 Nope, she's not available. 66 00:06:03,949 --> 00:06:04,949 Excuse me? 67 00:06:06,158 --> 00:06:08,245 Yeah, well, it doesn't matter who I am. Okay? 68 00:06:09,245 --> 00:06:10,247 No, I cannot. 69 00:06:11,872 --> 00:06:14,250 You know what? I'm just going to unplug the damn thing. 70 00:06:16,627 --> 00:06:19,713 There's like... There's still six or seven of them lurking around out there. 71 00:06:19,798 --> 00:06:21,466 - You're kidding me. - This is surreal. 72 00:06:22,550 --> 00:06:25,302 I mean, I have to surrender my passport. 73 00:06:25,387 --> 00:06:27,764 We have to show up with $100,000 in bail by Thursday, 74 00:06:27,846 --> 00:06:29,516 or they're gonna put me back in jail. 75 00:06:30,182 --> 00:06:32,143 I cannot believe this is actually happening. 76 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:38,649 - Mine's off. They found yours? - Hmm. 77 00:06:42,444 --> 00:06:45,447 - Hello. - Vince, it's Dan Nuss. How are you doing? 78 00:06:45,531 --> 00:06:50,704 Hey, Dan. Uh, we-we're doing the best we can, honestly. 79 00:06:50,786 --> 00:06:52,538 Listen, I-I'm trying to reach Anna. 80 00:06:52,622 --> 00:06:55,207 Yeah. All right. Wou... Just hang on a minute. 81 00:06:56,877 --> 00:06:58,168 Hi, Dan. 82 00:06:58,252 --> 00:07:00,629 Anna, I'm so sorry. 83 00:07:00,713 --> 00:07:05,302 What's going on, what they're putting you through, it just sickens me. 84 00:07:05,384 --> 00:07:08,805 Everyone's on your side, and people are asking what they can do. 85 00:07:08,889 --> 00:07:10,223 That's reassuring to hear. 86 00:07:10,307 --> 00:07:14,144 So, here's what I propose. I want to set up a legal defense fund for you. 87 00:07:14,728 --> 00:07:16,146 Dan, that's not necessary. 88 00:07:16,228 --> 00:07:19,481 Yes, it is. You know, let's be pragmatic. You're gonna need the money. 89 00:07:19,565 --> 00:07:21,692 And people all wanna help. 90 00:07:21,776 --> 00:07:23,737 That is incredibly thoughtful. 91 00:07:24,487 --> 00:07:25,487 Please. 92 00:07:26,031 --> 00:07:29,367 That a few disgruntled individuals can make these ridiculous allegations. 93 00:07:29,451 --> 00:07:30,850 And then, suddenly this whole thing 94 00:07:30,911 --> 00:07:34,915 becomes a-a absurd sensational national news story? 95 00:07:34,997 --> 00:07:36,917 Well, as I said, it sickens me. 96 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:41,254 I cannot tell you just h-how much I appreciate this call and your support. 97 00:07:41,922 --> 00:07:45,091 Of course. We're all here for you. 98 00:07:45,175 --> 00:07:47,009 Well, battle's on. 99 00:07:47,093 --> 00:07:49,678 We do all this work, and Foti can't even get the names right. 100 00:07:49,762 --> 00:07:52,973 Yeah. All that matters is what the New Orleans district attorney does. 101 00:07:53,057 --> 00:07:54,391 What do you know about him? 102 00:07:54,475 --> 00:07:57,038 Well, I'm not sure where Eddie Jordan's heart and mind is on this. 103 00:07:57,062 --> 00:07:58,062 Great. 104 00:08:00,689 --> 00:08:03,735 We just need to make this case as undeniable as possible to him. 105 00:08:03,817 --> 00:08:07,738 The first thing any DA's gonna wanna know is how the experts classify these deaths. 106 00:08:08,615 --> 00:08:11,910 So that's where we're gonna focus, on the forensic evidence. 107 00:08:14,954 --> 00:08:17,999 I promised a night on the town for coming to consult. 108 00:08:18,082 --> 00:08:20,043 So I got us a table at Galatoire's. 109 00:08:20,834 --> 00:08:22,980 Then we'll see what kind of trouble we get into after that. 110 00:08:23,004 --> 00:08:25,798 Bunch of pathologists on a bar crawl. 111 00:08:25,882 --> 00:08:28,134 Doesn't get much better than that. 112 00:08:28,218 --> 00:08:31,178 So, Butch, uh, the DA is coming to this meeting, or not? 113 00:08:31,262 --> 00:08:33,346 Eddie Jordan knows about the meeting. 114 00:08:33,431 --> 00:08:35,892 Well, let's just get started. We can catch him up. 115 00:08:35,975 --> 00:08:37,811 Robert, do you want to lead off? 116 00:08:37,894 --> 00:08:42,566 Sure. So, my lab took a look at tissue samples from 41 bodies. 117 00:08:42,649 --> 00:08:46,860 Twenty-three of them tested positive for morphine or midazolam, or both. 118 00:08:46,945 --> 00:08:49,405 Okay, well, what's your analysis of the levels? 119 00:08:49,489 --> 00:08:51,991 These drug concentrations, they seem very high to me. 120 00:08:52,075 --> 00:08:53,743 They're sticking out like a sore thumb. 121 00:08:53,826 --> 00:08:58,248 Well, given the condition of the bodies, your results, do you think they're valid? 122 00:08:58,331 --> 00:09:00,667 Absolutely. Yes, I do. 123 00:09:01,585 --> 00:09:04,421 All right, then. Let's go through the patients one by one. 124 00:09:05,129 --> 00:09:09,592 Alice Hutzler, 90-year-old LifeCare patient being treated for pneumonia. 125 00:09:09,676 --> 00:09:13,263 Wednesday night, she had no documented complaints of pain or distress 126 00:09:13,346 --> 00:09:14,865 that indicated a need for these drugs. 127 00:09:14,931 --> 00:09:17,392 Yet she was dead on Thursday afternoon. 128 00:09:17,475 --> 00:09:20,812 With morphine and midazolam in her liver, brain and muscle tissue. 129 00:09:20,895 --> 00:09:24,149 - Neither of which was prescribed. - Now, looking at these results, 130 00:09:24,231 --> 00:09:28,028 my analysis, Michael, let me know if you concur, is homicide. 131 00:09:28,611 --> 00:09:29,863 I concur. 132 00:09:30,822 --> 00:09:31,947 Rose Savoie. 133 00:09:32,032 --> 00:09:35,034 Both drugs present, no medical need indicated. Homicide. 134 00:09:35,118 --> 00:09:36,952 - Agreed. - Wilda McManus. 135 00:09:37,537 --> 00:09:38,663 Homicide. 136 00:09:40,248 --> 00:09:41,832 Emmett Everett. 137 00:09:44,126 --> 00:09:48,340 This patient was apparently aware, conscious and alert. 138 00:09:49,506 --> 00:09:51,509 With neither drug prescribed. 139 00:09:52,092 --> 00:09:54,053 - Homicide. - I concur. 140 00:09:59,475 --> 00:10:00,476 Sorry I'm late. 141 00:10:03,395 --> 00:10:05,291 - Who are you? - I'm assistant district attorney, 142 00:10:05,315 --> 00:10:06,417 Michael Morales. Who are you? 143 00:10:06,441 --> 00:10:10,195 I'm Butch Schafer. This is Virginia Rider. We're from the attorney general's office. 144 00:10:10,695 --> 00:10:13,072 - Where's Eddie Jordan? - I'm here on his behalf. 145 00:10:13,155 --> 00:10:16,326 The DA's got something better to do than look into 20-plus possible murders? 146 00:10:16,408 --> 00:10:18,620 I'm the lead prosecutor on this case. 147 00:10:18,702 --> 00:10:20,503 If you have something to share, let's hear it. 148 00:10:20,913 --> 00:10:23,291 Mr. Morales, can we talk privately for a minute? 149 00:10:25,710 --> 00:10:27,546 Mr. Morales, I'm sure you would agree 150 00:10:27,629 --> 00:10:30,506 that the toxicology reports in this case are critical. 151 00:10:30,590 --> 00:10:31,758 Obviously. 152 00:10:31,841 --> 00:10:35,302 We got the city coroner, two outside forensic pathology experts 153 00:10:35,386 --> 00:10:37,280 and the director of one of the nation's top labs, 154 00:10:37,304 --> 00:10:40,100 who all flew in here to examine the evidence. 155 00:10:40,182 --> 00:10:42,394 It feels like Eddie Jordan should be here. 156 00:10:42,476 --> 00:10:45,730 The attorney general knew that we were gonna be the ones prosecuting this case, 157 00:10:45,813 --> 00:10:47,481 but he's chosen to barely involve us. 158 00:10:47,566 --> 00:10:49,024 But this is our goddamn case, 159 00:10:49,109 --> 00:10:50,902 and we'll decide how it's gonna be managed. 160 00:10:50,985 --> 00:10:53,363 So you don't think this case merits the DA's full attention? 161 00:10:53,446 --> 00:10:55,447 Any death in this city merits our full attention. 162 00:10:55,532 --> 00:10:57,951 But I would not call these typical homicides. 163 00:10:58,033 --> 00:10:59,786 Look… 164 00:11:00,620 --> 00:11:03,123 …I have been a prosecutor, like you, for 27 years. 165 00:11:03,664 --> 00:11:07,543 And I can tell you that we have built you a very good case. A very solid case. 166 00:11:07,626 --> 00:11:10,797 And I'll be the one to decide whether or not that's true. 167 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:11,880 You ready to go back in? 168 00:11:20,639 --> 00:11:25,019 I am sensing an enthusiasm gap between us and ADA Morales. 169 00:11:25,519 --> 00:11:27,605 You think? 170 00:11:32,818 --> 00:11:35,279 Is anybody still talking to those investigators? 171 00:11:35,947 --> 00:11:38,533 Not without a subpoena or a Tenet lawyer. 172 00:11:38,616 --> 00:11:41,119 Hope nobody else says a goddamn word to them. 173 00:11:41,201 --> 00:11:43,330 If you don't mind me asking, uh, 174 00:11:43,413 --> 00:11:47,542 why shouldn't the staff be willing to talk to the investigators? 175 00:11:48,209 --> 00:11:51,129 If they didn't do anything wrong, then what do they have to worry about? 176 00:11:51,671 --> 00:11:53,173 Are you really that naïve, Horace? 177 00:11:53,255 --> 00:11:54,591 Well, I was just wondering 178 00:11:54,673 --> 00:11:57,802 why nobody's willing to acknowledge that mistakes were made. 179 00:11:58,470 --> 00:12:00,721 - Could I ask you a question, Horace? - Sure. 180 00:12:01,389 --> 00:12:04,934 If you were given a choice between, uh, comforting a patient, 181 00:12:05,018 --> 00:12:06,644 possibly quickening his death, 182 00:12:06,727 --> 00:12:10,649 or abandoning patients to suffer a slow agonizing death, 183 00:12:11,524 --> 00:12:12,984 which would you choose to do? 184 00:12:13,067 --> 00:12:15,445 Why, I don't believe that was the choice. 185 00:12:15,528 --> 00:12:17,447 You can comfort people without killing them. 186 00:12:17,529 --> 00:12:19,198 And no one had to abandon them. 187 00:12:19,282 --> 00:12:23,119 The fact is that when doctors are given the untenable position 188 00:12:23,202 --> 00:12:25,871 of having to choose who gets care and who does not get care, 189 00:12:25,956 --> 00:12:28,332 there are no right answers, Horace. 190 00:12:29,125 --> 00:12:30,501 There's just terrible choices. 191 00:12:30,585 --> 00:12:32,836 That's not what happened. 192 00:12:32,921 --> 00:12:37,716 It isn't? Where was the checklist? The emergency protocols? 193 00:12:37,801 --> 00:12:42,138 Did anybody ever define this criteria by which we were supposed to be operating? 194 00:12:43,389 --> 00:12:49,312 Ewing, all I want is for us to sit down, all together, 195 00:12:49,395 --> 00:12:55,568 and figure out what went wrong so we can learn from this for the future. 196 00:12:58,779 --> 00:13:00,740 I'm gonna get myself some crawfish. 197 00:13:01,283 --> 00:13:03,368 Yeah, me too. 198 00:13:05,578 --> 00:13:07,080 After Hurricane Katrina, 199 00:13:07,163 --> 00:13:10,125 the Superdome became a symbol of loss nationwide. 200 00:13:10,207 --> 00:13:12,543 Now, it's synonymous with hope and recovery. 201 00:13:13,128 --> 00:13:14,879 A massive renovation effort is underway, 202 00:13:14,962 --> 00:13:19,009 with workers laboring seven days a week to fix what was once broken. 203 00:13:41,572 --> 00:13:44,283 We have been asked to cease investigating. 204 00:13:44,366 --> 00:13:47,578 What? Are you kidding me? 205 00:13:49,121 --> 00:13:54,293 Morales… …has drafted a letter from Eddie Jordan to the attorney general 206 00:13:54,376 --> 00:13:56,004 saying that they don't need us anymore, 207 00:13:56,086 --> 00:13:58,465 that our continued work would not be advantageous. 208 00:13:58,548 --> 00:14:00,216 "Not advantageous?" 209 00:14:00,299 --> 00:14:02,760 We have 50,000 pages of documentary evidence. 210 00:14:02,844 --> 00:14:04,428 Well, they requested a summary. 211 00:14:05,054 --> 00:14:08,057 A summary of 50,000 pages of work. 212 00:14:09,517 --> 00:14:11,101 Okay, well, how do we respond? 213 00:14:12,519 --> 00:14:14,480 Well, I guess we write him a summary… 214 00:14:17,107 --> 00:14:20,070 and then we drop the 50,000 pages on his ass. 215 00:14:28,119 --> 00:14:30,746 Fuck. 216 00:14:30,830 --> 00:14:32,289 When we talked to Carrie Everett, 217 00:14:32,374 --> 00:14:34,960 the first thing she made clear was that her husband, Emmett, 218 00:14:35,043 --> 00:14:38,171 was not about to die when Hurricane Katrina hit New Orleans. 219 00:14:38,254 --> 00:14:40,090 Mrs. Everett, was your husband near death 220 00:14:40,173 --> 00:14:41,841 - when the hurricane hit? - No. 221 00:14:41,924 --> 00:14:43,568 Do you think they didn't want to move him? 222 00:14:43,592 --> 00:14:46,388 Let's be real. You're on the seventh floor. 223 00:14:46,471 --> 00:14:51,350 You got a man, paralyzed, 380 pounds. You really want to risk injuring yourself 224 00:14:51,433 --> 00:14:53,979 to try to carry that man down seven flights of stairs? 225 00:14:54,062 --> 00:14:57,065 Because of his size, that's why you think he may have been killed? 226 00:14:57,148 --> 00:14:59,234 Yes, that's absolutely what I believe. 227 00:14:59,317 --> 00:15:01,086 - The hurricane caused… - Well, this ain't bad. 228 00:15:01,110 --> 00:15:03,711 The lawsuits against Tenet and Memorial are getting publicity too. 229 00:15:04,322 --> 00:15:05,615 Well, who's filed so far? 230 00:15:05,698 --> 00:15:09,076 That I know, the families of Emmett Everett, Alice Hutzler, 231 00:15:09,159 --> 00:15:12,788 - Rose Savoie and Hollis Alford. - You believe this was murder? 232 00:15:12,871 --> 00:15:15,417 Yes. I think it was murder. 233 00:15:15,500 --> 00:15:16,793 Reporting from New Orleans… 234 00:15:16,876 --> 00:15:20,087 Family members are giving interviews and filing lawsuits. 235 00:15:20,171 --> 00:15:24,091 It's, uh, creating a narrative for us that's less than ideal. 236 00:15:24,174 --> 00:15:26,886 What they're saying, it's not true. 237 00:15:26,970 --> 00:15:30,139 Yeah, I-I know, but family members, you know, it's emotionally powerful. 238 00:15:30,222 --> 00:15:31,892 We got to find a way to counter it. 239 00:15:32,893 --> 00:15:33,894 Like what? 240 00:15:36,187 --> 00:15:37,605 I want you to go on 60 Minutes. 241 00:15:38,648 --> 00:15:39,774 They're interested. 242 00:15:40,274 --> 00:15:43,235 It's an opportunity for you to tell your story in your own words. 243 00:15:45,238 --> 00:15:46,655 60 Minutes? 244 00:15:46,740 --> 00:15:48,616 I know you're strong enough to handle it. 245 00:15:48,700 --> 00:15:50,409 They could destroy me. 246 00:15:53,871 --> 00:15:57,250 Or it could be a way for the entire world to see you the way I see you. 247 00:16:01,171 --> 00:16:02,172 Think about it. 248 00:16:19,688 --> 00:16:22,775 If I talk to them, they could twist my words. 249 00:16:23,860 --> 00:16:25,361 You're innocent, Anna. 250 00:16:25,946 --> 00:16:28,322 They need to know who you are. 251 00:16:29,823 --> 00:16:31,326 They need to know you. 252 00:16:32,034 --> 00:16:37,539 That you're a deeply caring person who didn't do anything wrong. 253 00:16:57,601 --> 00:16:59,395 All right, guys. 254 00:17:19,833 --> 00:17:23,127 This summer, Louisiana's attorney general stunned the city 255 00:17:23,210 --> 00:17:26,006 when he charged that four of Memorial's dead 256 00:17:26,088 --> 00:17:30,134 did not die from illnesses or even from the horrific conditions. 257 00:17:30,218 --> 00:17:33,387 Tonight, for the first time, we hear from the accused. 258 00:17:35,015 --> 00:17:39,435 It is unbelievably shocking for me that I'm actually sitting here, 259 00:17:39,519 --> 00:17:43,690 having this conversation with you on national TV. 260 00:17:45,025 --> 00:17:49,487 And I want everybody to know that I am not a murderer. 261 00:17:50,070 --> 00:17:53,074 You went from being a highly respected physician 262 00:17:53,157 --> 00:17:57,287 to, uh, in the eyes of the law, a criminal. What did that do to you? 263 00:17:58,246 --> 00:18:02,666 It completely ripped my heart out, 264 00:18:03,167 --> 00:18:08,381 because my entire life, I've tried to do good. 265 00:18:08,964 --> 00:18:11,218 - And my entire adult life… - She's very compelling. 266 00:18:11,300 --> 00:18:13,303 - I have given everything I have… - Yeah. 267 00:18:13,385 --> 00:18:16,222 …within me to take care of my patients. 268 00:18:16,306 --> 00:18:17,432 Were people dying? 269 00:18:18,182 --> 00:18:19,643 Yes, people were dying. 270 00:18:19,726 --> 00:18:22,604 From their diseases or from their conditions? 271 00:18:22,686 --> 00:18:27,483 You have to understand that there were very sick people in the hospital. 272 00:18:27,567 --> 00:18:29,402 You had this intense heat, 273 00:18:29,486 --> 00:18:32,447 and we had a lack of all the tools that we normally use. 274 00:18:32,529 --> 00:18:35,866 So people were dying from the horrible conditions 275 00:18:35,951 --> 00:18:38,411 because they were not strong enough to tolerate them. 276 00:18:38,494 --> 00:18:40,704 - Jesus. - Bodies were piling up. 277 00:18:40,788 --> 00:18:42,832 The chapel became a morgue. 278 00:18:42,915 --> 00:18:47,045 Then gunshots were heard. There was fear that looters might break in. 279 00:18:47,127 --> 00:18:50,673 Did you figure at any point that you were really done for? 280 00:18:50,757 --> 00:18:57,430 Because you don't know me, you don't know how tough I am. 281 00:18:59,223 --> 00:19:00,976 I don't think anyone gave up hope. 282 00:19:01,058 --> 00:19:04,061 I can tell you I didn't give up hope because, 283 00:19:04,144 --> 00:19:08,983 as a cancer specialist, you know, I give hope to my patients. 284 00:19:09,942 --> 00:19:11,068 You know, I am hope. 285 00:19:11,653 --> 00:19:16,240 She also says she is just not capable of any sort of mercy killing. 286 00:19:16,324 --> 00:19:18,867 I do not believe in euthanasia. 287 00:19:18,951 --> 00:19:25,375 I don't think that it's anyone's decision to make, when a patient dies. 288 00:19:25,916 --> 00:19:30,297 However, what I do believe in is comfort care. 289 00:19:30,380 --> 00:19:35,426 And that means that we ensure that they do not suffer pain. 290 00:19:35,509 --> 00:19:40,097 You know, my role, as I said, is to help them through their pain. 291 00:19:40,723 --> 00:19:42,808 As for Dr. Pou and the nurses, 292 00:19:42,893 --> 00:19:46,563 they are faced with the prospect of life in prison 293 00:19:46,645 --> 00:19:50,608 and the possibility of never practicing medicine again. 294 00:19:50,692 --> 00:19:52,067 That is the thing 295 00:19:53,778 --> 00:20:00,743 that is truly the most p-painful for me. 296 00:20:02,037 --> 00:20:04,955 You know, I'm very committed, and I love what I do. 297 00:20:05,039 --> 00:20:09,294 I mean, I really love it. It is the best thing about my life. 298 00:20:10,961 --> 00:20:12,422 And the fact that 299 00:20:13,673 --> 00:20:18,135 I may not be able to continue to do the thing that I love the most, 300 00:20:18,220 --> 00:20:20,305 where I know I can do a lot of good, 301 00:20:21,056 --> 00:20:24,808 is just phenomenally, phenomenally painful to me. 302 00:20:29,146 --> 00:20:32,025 So, guess what? We got in all the final pathology reports. 303 00:20:32,107 --> 00:20:34,693 Oh, wait. Can't I just have a cup of coffee first? 304 00:20:34,778 --> 00:20:36,112 - Not a chance. - Okay. 305 00:20:36,195 --> 00:20:37,864 Baden and Wecht confirmed in writing 306 00:20:37,948 --> 00:20:39,699 what they told in Minyard's office. 307 00:20:39,782 --> 00:20:43,077 "Nine deaths from LifeCare were due to drug poisoning." 308 00:20:43,161 --> 00:20:44,996 And Wecht, he analyzed 20 deaths 309 00:20:45,079 --> 00:20:47,665 and concluded that all of them resulted from drug toxicity. 310 00:20:47,749 --> 00:20:49,727 Plus, we got additional reports from Dr. Frank Brescia. 311 00:20:49,750 --> 00:20:51,001 "Homicide in nine cases." 312 00:20:51,086 --> 00:20:52,295 And then Dr. James Young, 313 00:20:52,378 --> 00:20:55,257 who is the president of the American Academy of Forensic Sciences. 314 00:20:55,339 --> 00:20:58,059 "All these patients survived the adverse events of the previous days, 315 00:20:58,093 --> 00:20:59,737 and for every patient on a floor to have died 316 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:02,840 in one three-and-a-half-hour period with drug toxicity is beyond coincidence." 317 00:21:03,347 --> 00:21:04,348 It's irrefutable. 318 00:21:04,932 --> 00:21:08,936 Well, it's not. I mean, nothing's irrefutable. 319 00:21:09,019 --> 00:21:11,565 They're gonna challenge the conditions of the bodies 320 00:21:11,647 --> 00:21:13,542 and Foti's claims about the lethality of the drugs... 321 00:21:13,567 --> 00:21:16,861 But we got four top medical experts all claiming these were homicides. 322 00:21:17,778 --> 00:21:18,946 Yeah. 323 00:21:20,365 --> 00:21:21,991 What is gonna be enough for you, Butch? 324 00:21:22,741 --> 00:21:24,661 This isn't about me. 325 00:21:25,452 --> 00:21:27,538 What? Do I think these folks were murdered? 326 00:21:27,622 --> 00:21:29,207 Hell yes, of course I do. 327 00:21:29,708 --> 00:21:31,375 But what I'm trying to tell you is that 328 00:21:31,459 --> 00:21:33,186 evidence alone isn't going to get it done here. 329 00:21:33,211 --> 00:21:34,712 Why? Because Pou went on 60 Minutes? 330 00:21:34,796 --> 00:21:36,714 Yeah, and she did incredibly well. 331 00:21:36,798 --> 00:21:39,359 - A TV show is not gonna decide this. - You don't think it matters? 332 00:21:39,384 --> 00:21:40,844 - N-No. - Okay. 333 00:21:40,926 --> 00:21:42,613 People in this city, they're gonna want to know, 334 00:21:42,636 --> 00:21:46,432 "Why should Anna Pou, a heroic doctor, go to jail? 335 00:21:47,267 --> 00:21:51,645 Why should she be the one person to take the blame for everything that went wrong?" 336 00:21:52,230 --> 00:21:54,441 You know who didn't get arrested? 337 00:21:54,523 --> 00:21:56,067 Nobody from any corporate entity. 338 00:21:56,817 --> 00:21:59,362 Nobody from Tenet. Nobody from LifeCare. 339 00:22:00,529 --> 00:22:02,048 And what about the government officials? 340 00:22:02,073 --> 00:22:04,534 Why wasn't Governor Blanco arrested? Or Mayor Nagin? 341 00:22:04,617 --> 00:22:07,412 They were the leaders. They were the goddamn people in charge! 342 00:22:09,830 --> 00:22:11,875 That's what we have to overcome. 343 00:22:19,340 --> 00:22:21,968 Look, I'm sor... I just... 344 00:22:22,051 --> 00:22:23,771 I'm... I'm just trying to be realistic here, 345 00:22:23,845 --> 00:22:25,884 so we can... We can figure out how to get this done. 346 00:22:26,972 --> 00:22:28,224 Yeah, so what do you wanna do? 347 00:22:28,307 --> 00:22:31,560 Uh, let's just send all that forensic evidence over to Morales 348 00:22:31,644 --> 00:22:33,939 and, you know, maybe put a big red bow on it. 349 00:22:34,980 --> 00:22:36,148 Will do. 350 00:22:42,154 --> 00:22:47,410 Congratulations, Anna. You were fantastic. That could not have gone better. 351 00:22:47,493 --> 00:22:49,621 - I hope you're right. - Oh, I know I am. 352 00:22:49,703 --> 00:22:51,544 I've been in touch with various medical groups. 353 00:22:51,998 --> 00:22:54,375 Statements of support are pouring in. 354 00:22:54,459 --> 00:22:55,499 All right, listen to this. 355 00:22:55,544 --> 00:22:57,939 I go... Just got this from the Louisiana State Medical Society. 356 00:22:57,962 --> 00:23:01,758 "The LSMS is confident that Dr. Pou performed courageously 357 00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:04,051 under the most challenging and horrific conditions, 358 00:23:04,134 --> 00:23:07,972 and made decisions in the best interest of her patients." 359 00:23:08,056 --> 00:23:10,517 The medical community is lining up behind you. 360 00:23:11,101 --> 00:23:12,309 It's very reassuring. 361 00:23:12,394 --> 00:23:14,895 I just got a call from Frank Minyard, the parish coroner. 362 00:23:14,980 --> 00:23:17,982 He, uh, saw the interview. He wants to sit with you. 363 00:23:18,607 --> 00:23:20,442 Why would I want to do that? 364 00:23:20,527 --> 00:23:22,862 This is a good thing. Trust me. 365 00:23:26,950 --> 00:23:29,118 It shocks me that we've never met before. 366 00:23:29,702 --> 00:23:32,998 I knew your father well. In fact, I used to come by your house all the time. 367 00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:35,333 Well, you know, I was one of 11 kids. 368 00:23:35,416 --> 00:23:39,546 So, maybe I ran past you or... or threw up on you, or something. 369 00:23:39,628 --> 00:23:41,756 That could've happened. 370 00:23:41,839 --> 00:23:43,424 Well, your father was a wonderful man. 371 00:23:43,508 --> 00:23:45,301 - And a great physician. - Yes. 372 00:23:45,926 --> 00:23:48,721 And he was especially kind in referring patients to me 373 00:23:48,805 --> 00:23:51,641 when I was starting my OB-GYN practice. 374 00:23:52,601 --> 00:23:55,311 He is the reason that I'm a doctor. 375 00:23:56,770 --> 00:23:57,771 Hmm. 376 00:23:59,356 --> 00:24:00,817 So, how you holding up? 377 00:24:02,234 --> 00:24:05,488 To be honest… …it hasn't been easy. 378 00:24:05,571 --> 00:24:07,656 Oof, I'm sure it has not. 379 00:24:11,243 --> 00:24:14,288 I-I do have some idea what you went through. 380 00:24:15,123 --> 00:24:17,791 During the storm, to get to my office downtown, 381 00:24:17,875 --> 00:24:21,462 I had to wade, swim, then hitch a ride on a boat. 382 00:24:21,546 --> 00:24:22,547 Oh, my word. 383 00:24:22,631 --> 00:24:24,215 I was stuck there for four days. 384 00:24:25,508 --> 00:24:29,887 - H-How precious did food and water seem? - Yes. 385 00:24:29,971 --> 00:24:32,348 At night, I couldn't sleep for all the sounds of gunshots. 386 00:24:32,432 --> 00:24:33,767 We heard them too. 387 00:24:33,849 --> 00:24:37,479 The people that weren't here, they just can't understand. 388 00:24:37,561 --> 00:24:39,940 - No, they cannot. - No. 389 00:24:41,148 --> 00:24:45,819 My job, as I see it, is not just examining bodies. Anybody can do that. 390 00:24:46,779 --> 00:24:49,990 What I do is try to understand why things happened. 391 00:24:50,825 --> 00:24:56,914 Um, I like to get a handle on the people involved, meet them face-to-face if I can. 392 00:25:01,419 --> 00:25:04,088 I-It's terrible right now, the way our city's being judged. 393 00:25:04,172 --> 00:25:05,382 I couldn't agree more. 394 00:25:05,464 --> 00:25:08,676 I've dealt with over 650 dead bodies from Katrina. 395 00:25:10,178 --> 00:25:13,306 650. And that's just here in New Orleans. 396 00:25:13,390 --> 00:25:14,641 It's unfathomable. 397 00:25:15,683 --> 00:25:18,103 I thank God I was not in that hospital, 398 00:25:19,354 --> 00:25:21,815 that I was not the one who had to make those decisions. 399 00:25:24,067 --> 00:25:25,859 God bless you for all you did. 400 00:25:31,365 --> 00:25:34,286 Thank you. Thank you. 401 00:25:56,682 --> 00:25:59,394 That was Green Day, right here on WVXT Baton Rouge, 402 00:25:59,477 --> 00:26:00,769 home of great rock music. 403 00:26:00,854 --> 00:26:02,897 And now, these local news headlines. 404 00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:06,483 New Orleans coroner, Frank Minyard, released a statement this morning 405 00:26:06,567 --> 00:26:09,153 saying he's found no evidence of homicide 406 00:26:09,237 --> 00:26:11,780 in the case of 45 dead bodies discovered last year 407 00:26:11,865 --> 00:26:14,742 at Memorial Medical Center, in the wake of Hurricane... 408 00:26:14,826 --> 00:26:16,411 Hello? 409 00:26:16,493 --> 00:26:18,163 Did you hear what Minyard just announced? 410 00:26:18,246 --> 00:26:19,538 Uh, yeah, I just heard it. 411 00:26:19,623 --> 00:26:21,022 How can he say there's no evidence? 412 00:26:21,082 --> 00:26:23,626 Well, I told you, he's gonna want to pass his own judgments. 413 00:26:23,710 --> 00:26:26,212 - Well, that's bullshit! - Hey, where are you? 414 00:26:26,796 --> 00:26:28,088 I'm going to New Orleans. 415 00:26:28,173 --> 00:26:30,217 No... Virgin... Virginia, no, no, no... 416 00:26:31,050 --> 00:26:32,093 Fuck! 417 00:26:36,138 --> 00:26:38,892 Excuse me! Hey! You can't go in there. 418 00:26:41,853 --> 00:26:44,105 How could you do this? How could you say this? 419 00:26:44,189 --> 00:26:47,192 The... There is so much support for Dr. Pou at this time. 420 00:26:47,275 --> 00:26:51,820 A public declaration o-of homicide would do a lot more than just stir things up. 421 00:26:52,572 --> 00:26:54,615 It would be very bad for our city. 422 00:26:54,699 --> 00:26:57,802 How's it gonna be for the city when people learn you swept the truth under the rug? 423 00:26:57,826 --> 00:26:59,663 Tell me something, Miss Rider. 424 00:26:59,746 --> 00:27:03,833 W-What happens the next time there's a hurricane? Or the time after that? 425 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:06,711 Because those times will come for certain. 426 00:27:06,795 --> 00:27:10,423 W-What happens when there's no health care workers to fill our hospitals? 427 00:27:10,507 --> 00:27:12,717 No... No doctors. No nurses. 428 00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:15,761 Because they're too afraid that if they do anything wrong in an emergency, 429 00:27:15,845 --> 00:27:17,405 they're gonna be treated like criminals. 430 00:27:17,430 --> 00:27:18,682 What happens to our city then? 431 00:27:18,765 --> 00:27:21,726 You're telling me that doctors are gonna threaten the people of this city? 432 00:27:22,352 --> 00:27:23,703 That they're gonna walk off the job? 433 00:27:23,728 --> 00:27:25,230 Besides, that is not your job. 434 00:27:25,313 --> 00:27:26,690 I respectfully disagree. 435 00:27:26,772 --> 00:27:31,361 For 31 years, I... The entirety of my job's been doing what's best for this city. 436 00:27:31,443 --> 00:27:34,280 No, your job, your actual job, 437 00:27:34,364 --> 00:27:37,909 is to make judgments based on scientific fact, based on evidence. 438 00:27:38,576 --> 00:27:40,452 So just do your damn job. 439 00:27:41,913 --> 00:27:43,113 Do what you're supposed to do. 440 00:27:52,965 --> 00:27:55,969 From a distance, it looks like any other American city, 441 00:27:56,051 --> 00:28:00,056 but to revisit New Orleans now is to realize the scale of the betrayal. 442 00:28:02,893 --> 00:28:06,020 The president promised the biggest rebuilding program in history, 443 00:28:06,104 --> 00:28:08,272 but come to the very poorest neighborhoods, 444 00:28:08,355 --> 00:28:11,317 and there is no evidence of government help whatsoever. 445 00:28:11,401 --> 00:28:14,904 The Ninth Ward, like the other poor, mainly Black areas of this city, 446 00:28:14,988 --> 00:28:16,865 are being left to, quite literally, rot. 447 00:28:17,449 --> 00:28:19,241 And what is also so striking 448 00:28:19,326 --> 00:28:22,662 is there are very few people left here to ask about the future. 449 00:28:23,203 --> 00:28:26,458 The Lower Ninth Ward lost over 10,000 residents, 450 00:28:26,540 --> 00:28:29,920 leaving just 7% of its previous population. 451 00:28:30,002 --> 00:28:33,464 It's very unfair. I think it's unfair. 452 00:28:33,548 --> 00:28:37,509 I don't know how long I can do this. I might have to pack it up and move away. 453 00:28:53,734 --> 00:28:57,322 Whoa. Look at you buying the first round. What... 454 00:28:57,404 --> 00:28:58,530 Thanks for meeting me. 455 00:28:59,406 --> 00:29:00,450 Hey, you all right? 456 00:29:03,118 --> 00:29:04,371 Butch… 457 00:29:06,288 --> 00:29:07,958 I can't do this anymore. 458 00:29:10,376 --> 00:29:12,586 I get how there's politics here. I'm not an idiot. 459 00:29:12,671 --> 00:29:16,758 But I don't get how people can stray so far from the facts. 460 00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:22,180 And I'm just… I just can't stomach it anymore. 461 00:29:24,348 --> 00:29:27,978 - Look, I overreacted. - We have a damn good case. 462 00:29:28,060 --> 00:29:31,314 No. You were exactly right. 463 00:29:31,397 --> 00:29:34,358 There's way more at play here than just a set of facts, 464 00:29:34,442 --> 00:29:35,943 and I should open my eyes to it. 465 00:29:37,862 --> 00:29:39,447 I should've listened to you, but… 466 00:29:41,490 --> 00:29:43,927 now that I see where this train is going, I've gotta get off of it 467 00:29:43,951 --> 00:29:45,578 - for my own sanity. - No, Virginia. 468 00:29:45,662 --> 00:29:46,746 No, I'm not you. 469 00:29:49,124 --> 00:29:50,125 I just… 470 00:29:52,626 --> 00:29:56,088 I can't not take this all incredibly personally. 471 00:29:57,339 --> 00:29:59,718 And it's tearing me apart. 472 00:30:04,471 --> 00:30:06,807 I've loved every minute of working with you, Butch. 473 00:30:10,478 --> 00:30:11,688 But I'm done. 474 00:30:16,692 --> 00:30:20,488 - Can I argue this with you? - Please don't. 475 00:30:20,571 --> 00:30:21,865 It's hard enough. 476 00:30:24,951 --> 00:30:26,452 We made a great team. 477 00:31:04,990 --> 00:31:07,826 Sir, they're almost ready for you. 478 00:31:17,378 --> 00:31:19,213 Ah. Thank you, dear. 479 00:31:23,593 --> 00:31:25,679 Thank y'all for coming out here today. 480 00:31:26,721 --> 00:31:29,057 I wanna clarify my prior statement. 481 00:31:29,848 --> 00:31:32,810 When I said I'd seen no evidence of homicide 482 00:31:33,394 --> 00:31:36,105 thus far in the investigation at Memorial Hospital, 483 00:31:36,189 --> 00:31:38,650 I did not mean that homicide was not 484 00:31:38,732 --> 00:31:41,318 the manner of death of patients at Memorial. 485 00:31:42,069 --> 00:31:46,449 That is still to be determined and will be the subject of further investigation 486 00:31:46,950 --> 00:31:50,996 and a presentation I will make to the special grand jury. 487 00:31:51,078 --> 00:31:53,623 Thank you. 488 00:31:55,541 --> 00:31:59,003 How can he say one thing and then say something completely different? 489 00:31:59,753 --> 00:32:00,755 I don't know. 490 00:32:00,838 --> 00:32:03,465 …now saying he has not ruled out homicide. 491 00:32:03,549 --> 00:32:04,634 I'm gonna go do some work. 492 00:32:05,426 --> 00:32:08,888 Darling, maybe you should take it easy for just a little bit. 493 00:32:08,971 --> 00:32:12,517 What am I gonna do? Sit around, worrying about some outcome that I can't control? 494 00:32:12,601 --> 00:32:15,729 No, but what about this? How about we take a trip, huh? 495 00:32:16,229 --> 00:32:18,583 Come on. Just the two of us. We could just go down to Florida. 496 00:32:18,606 --> 00:32:21,942 And have someone take a picture of me sitting on some beach vacationing? 497 00:32:23,403 --> 00:32:26,002 Vince, I know your heart is in the right place, but that's not me. 498 00:32:26,071 --> 00:32:27,699 That's... Y-You know me. 499 00:32:27,781 --> 00:32:30,701 I-I have to keep busy. That's how I keep myself sane. 500 00:32:39,627 --> 00:32:40,670 You may be seated. 501 00:32:45,342 --> 00:32:47,344 - Good morning. - Morning. Morning. 502 00:32:47,426 --> 00:32:49,179 Ladies and gentlemen, you have been selected 503 00:32:49,261 --> 00:32:52,766 as members of the special grand jury for Orleans Parish. 504 00:32:53,807 --> 00:32:55,434 Now, you will hear evidence, 505 00:32:55,518 --> 00:32:57,479 and you will be guided in your decision-making 506 00:32:57,561 --> 00:32:59,480 by the district attorney's office. 507 00:33:00,898 --> 00:33:02,692 This is not a trial. 508 00:33:03,359 --> 00:33:06,570 You will not be hearing impassioned arguments from both sides. 509 00:33:07,071 --> 00:33:10,157 Instead, the district attorney's office will lead you 510 00:33:10,241 --> 00:33:13,662 through information that they have gathered on this particular case. 511 00:33:14,162 --> 00:33:19,459 They and I will provide instruction, and you will indict when warranted. 512 00:33:20,585 --> 00:33:24,838 You will also keep secret all of what goes on in here. Is that understood? 513 00:33:24,923 --> 00:33:26,590 Yes. Yes, Your Honor. 514 00:33:27,092 --> 00:33:29,678 Then your service has commenced. 515 00:33:32,681 --> 00:33:35,141 And we won't know anything until they make a decision. 516 00:33:35,808 --> 00:33:41,772 What they do behind closed doors goes on in total secrecy. All of it. 517 00:33:44,067 --> 00:33:49,489 If you asked me to devise the most exquisite torture imaginable, 518 00:33:51,365 --> 00:33:52,659 this would be it. 519 00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:55,161 Yeah. 520 00:33:56,538 --> 00:34:01,166 A trial, no matter the verdict, is gonna completely ruin me, Rick. 521 00:34:03,627 --> 00:34:05,130 What am I gonna do? 522 00:34:10,135 --> 00:34:11,385 All right, everyone. 523 00:34:11,469 --> 00:34:13,471 Um, this is Maya. 524 00:34:13,554 --> 00:34:17,434 She's a 49-year-old woman with recurrent pharyngeal carcinoma. 525 00:34:18,018 --> 00:34:20,728 Uh, we're gonna be working here for a while, 526 00:34:20,811 --> 00:34:24,273 so I want all of us to stay focused. 527 00:34:24,356 --> 00:34:25,525 Okay. 528 00:34:25,608 --> 00:34:29,445 We're gonna do all we can for her with God's help. 529 00:34:29,527 --> 00:34:30,864 Amen. 530 00:34:42,626 --> 00:34:46,795 Dr. Pou, you were amazing today. 531 00:34:49,047 --> 00:34:51,217 We did some good work. All of us. 532 00:34:52,677 --> 00:34:56,972 Doc, I just wanted to let you know, I contributed to your defense fund. 533 00:34:59,266 --> 00:35:02,853 Monica. Thank you. 534 00:35:03,438 --> 00:35:05,565 You're the kind of woman I wanna be. 535 00:35:07,150 --> 00:35:08,693 And I'm praying for you. 536 00:35:11,905 --> 00:35:16,326 Thank you. Yeah, I'm praying for me too. 537 00:35:37,347 --> 00:35:40,266 Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, welcome back. 538 00:35:41,684 --> 00:35:44,728 Michael Morales, present on behalf of the State of Louisiana. 539 00:35:44,813 --> 00:35:47,315 The grand jurors have a return on this matter, Your Honor. 540 00:35:47,398 --> 00:35:49,358 In the case of Anna Pou, 541 00:35:49,442 --> 00:35:52,278 you've been asked to consider a ten-count bill of indictment. 542 00:35:52,862 --> 00:35:54,530 One count of second-degree murder 543 00:35:54,614 --> 00:35:58,159 and nine counts of conspiracy to commit second-degree murder. 544 00:35:58,827 --> 00:35:59,952 What say you? 545 00:36:21,056 --> 00:36:25,603 In each of these ten counts it is noted, "Not a true bill of indictment." 546 00:36:25,686 --> 00:36:26,855 Is that correct? 547 00:36:27,438 --> 00:36:28,731 Yes, Your Honor. 548 00:36:29,231 --> 00:36:33,777 Very well then. This matter and your service is concluded. 549 00:36:34,862 --> 00:36:37,282 An update now on a controversial criminal case. 550 00:36:37,364 --> 00:36:39,159 The grand jury in New Orleans will not indict 551 00:36:39,242 --> 00:36:42,454 a surgeon accused of killing four seriously ill hospital patients. 552 00:36:42,536 --> 00:36:46,498 The grand jury have decided not to bring criminal charges against her. 553 00:36:46,583 --> 00:36:47,583 Anna. 554 00:36:49,085 --> 00:36:50,085 They didn't indict you. 555 00:36:50,170 --> 00:36:51,809 - Not on any of the charges. - Oh, my God. 556 00:36:51,838 --> 00:36:55,217 - Oh, my God. Oh, God. Lord, thank you. - What? What? Nothing? 557 00:36:55,300 --> 00:36:57,135 Oh, Lord, thank you. 558 00:36:57,219 --> 00:36:58,677 Nothing? Oh. 559 00:36:58,762 --> 00:37:00,222 No. 560 00:37:08,438 --> 00:37:10,398 District Attorney Jordan. 561 00:37:10,481 --> 00:37:12,083 What do you think of the grand jury's decision? 562 00:37:12,108 --> 00:37:15,070 I agree with the grand jury. Thank you. 563 00:37:15,152 --> 00:37:16,820 Mr. Morales, your comment, please? 564 00:37:16,905 --> 00:37:18,280 Please take a copy. 565 00:37:18,364 --> 00:37:21,909 You'll see that forensic experts from all over the country 566 00:37:21,992 --> 00:37:25,996 have concluded that the deaths in question that occurred at Memorial Medical Center, 567 00:37:26,081 --> 00:37:27,791 they were homicides. 568 00:37:28,750 --> 00:37:32,170 If that's the case, sir, then why didn't the grand jury indict? 569 00:37:32,253 --> 00:37:35,882 Because they didn't hear directly from any of these forensic experts. 570 00:37:35,965 --> 00:37:39,260 - Why not? - Well, you'll have to ask the DA that. 571 00:37:39,344 --> 00:37:42,389 Do you think it's fair to judge Dr. Pou on the decisions she made 572 00:37:42,472 --> 00:37:45,224 given the incredibly horrific conditions that existed? 573 00:37:45,307 --> 00:37:47,143 I refuse to accept that the conditions 574 00:37:47,226 --> 00:37:49,728 were any excuse for the taking of a human life. 575 00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:53,400 What is the value of a human life? 576 00:37:54,442 --> 00:37:57,695 What conditions can possibly justify the taking of human lives? 577 00:37:57,778 --> 00:38:00,072 These are the questions that this case raises. 578 00:38:00,155 --> 00:38:04,827 So, no. I do not believe in any way, shape or form 579 00:38:04,911 --> 00:38:07,539 that the grand jury reached the right conclusion. 580 00:38:15,005 --> 00:38:16,005 Butch? 581 00:38:18,007 --> 00:38:19,175 Are you okay? 582 00:38:19,259 --> 00:38:20,760 Yeah, yeah, I'm fine. 583 00:38:26,099 --> 00:38:28,309 Hon, I know you don't like to discuss your cases, 584 00:38:28,393 --> 00:38:33,148 but… I'm sorry this one didn't go your way. 585 00:38:35,358 --> 00:38:39,820 Th-That hospital… …it wasn't a damn battlefield 586 00:38:39,905 --> 00:38:42,615 with mortar shells coming in. It was a shelter. 587 00:38:42,699 --> 00:38:47,036 They had food and water and rescue boats. 588 00:38:47,621 --> 00:38:51,625 Wouldn't somebody rather risk getting carried downstairs… 589 00:38:51,708 --> 00:38:54,960 …or, hell, low... lowered out a window, rather than not try at all? 590 00:38:55,045 --> 00:38:56,844 Why would you not at least try to get him out? 591 00:38:57,838 --> 00:39:01,425 If you're a doctor, you get to just decide who lives and... and who dies? 592 00:39:01,509 --> 00:39:02,989 If you feel like giving your patients 593 00:39:03,052 --> 00:39:05,179 huge doses of morphine and Versed cocktail, 594 00:39:05,262 --> 00:39:07,641 that's your call? 595 00:39:10,393 --> 00:39:12,103 And how do you ignore the fact 596 00:39:12,186 --> 00:39:15,356 that... that... that other people were evacuating people 597 00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:18,108 at the same time that you were "giving comfort"? 598 00:39:25,992 --> 00:39:27,244 These poor people. 599 00:39:30,121 --> 00:39:33,250 These poor folks, they had no idea what was happening to them. 600 00:39:35,793 --> 00:39:39,005 They had no way of defending themselves. 601 00:39:42,925 --> 00:39:48,347 - This re... This really hurts, Lin. - Lin, this re... this really hurts. 602 00:39:49,431 --> 00:39:50,474 I know. 603 00:40:03,445 --> 00:40:05,447 I wanted to make sure you got this back. 604 00:40:11,496 --> 00:40:13,414 I wish we could've done a better job for you. 605 00:40:14,291 --> 00:40:15,750 Wasn't your fault. 606 00:40:16,418 --> 00:40:20,755 Dr. Pou and all those people with power, they lined up right behind her. 607 00:40:22,673 --> 00:40:29,597 Emmett. You know, he was my high school sweetheart. 608 00:40:31,682 --> 00:40:35,519 I met him when I needed a date to the junior prom. 609 00:40:36,563 --> 00:40:40,483 He was the brother of a friend of mine, and I'd seen him sitting on the porch. 610 00:40:41,568 --> 00:40:43,152 So I said to my friend, 611 00:40:43,235 --> 00:40:45,739 "Go ask your brother if he wanna take me to the prom." 612 00:40:45,822 --> 00:40:48,824 And he did. 613 00:40:50,911 --> 00:40:51,911 Emmett. 614 00:40:52,913 --> 00:40:55,581 He used to say to me, "Girl, you gonna be my wife." 615 00:40:56,583 --> 00:41:01,463 And I said, "Boy, you'd be the last person on Earth I'd marry." 616 00:41:02,422 --> 00:41:03,757 Just to throw him off. 617 00:41:06,425 --> 00:41:10,722 He was the most loving, caring man I have ever met. 618 00:41:12,097 --> 00:41:13,516 I wish I could've met him. 619 00:41:17,186 --> 00:41:20,231 There ain't no statute of limitations on murder. 620 00:41:21,815 --> 00:41:27,739 I've been waiting a long time for justice. I can wait a little while longer. 621 00:41:43,838 --> 00:41:47,300 Hey, look at this. It's the Ghost of Christmas Past. 622 00:41:47,384 --> 00:41:50,594 Oh, yeah. Still haunting you. 623 00:41:50,679 --> 00:41:52,597 Just came by to get the rest of my things. 624 00:41:53,514 --> 00:41:55,391 No one's taken your spot out front, I see. 625 00:41:56,351 --> 00:41:58,603 Yeah, just taking a quiet five. 626 00:42:01,273 --> 00:42:03,692 Well, I guess you were smart to get out when you did, huh? 627 00:42:05,443 --> 00:42:07,487 Doesn't make it any easier to stomach. 628 00:42:11,615 --> 00:42:15,161 Pardon my French, but what the fuck happened in there? 629 00:42:16,288 --> 00:42:19,916 Among other things, they... they never called Kristy Johnson. 630 00:42:21,293 --> 00:42:22,293 What? 631 00:42:23,085 --> 00:42:25,338 How do you not call the eyewitness to a murder? 632 00:42:25,422 --> 00:42:26,755 And it doesn't look like any 633 00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:29,675 of the outside forensic experts testified, either. 634 00:42:29,759 --> 00:42:30,969 What were they thinking? 635 00:42:31,677 --> 00:42:34,764 That is a profound question. 636 00:42:36,349 --> 00:42:41,396 But the records of the special grand jury are permanently sealed, 637 00:42:41,478 --> 00:42:42,688 so we'll never know. 638 00:42:44,900 --> 00:42:47,777 I can't help but think that we fucked up by just going after Pou. 639 00:42:48,445 --> 00:42:49,445 Uh… 640 00:42:49,528 --> 00:42:56,077 …it was a river of evidence that flowed a certain way, and we had to follow it. 641 00:42:57,411 --> 00:42:58,788 Led us right to Pou. 642 00:42:59,289 --> 00:43:03,668 Yeah, to a doctor who was exemplary in every way. Except for when she wasn't. 643 00:43:05,295 --> 00:43:06,295 Hmm. 644 00:43:09,298 --> 00:43:10,342 Onward. 645 00:43:13,844 --> 00:43:15,554 I'm glad I ran into you, Butch. 646 00:43:16,139 --> 00:43:17,139 Me too. 647 00:43:18,682 --> 00:43:21,186 You take care of yourself, Virginia. 648 00:43:22,938 --> 00:43:23,938 Bye. 649 00:43:58,306 --> 00:43:59,599 Ladies and gentlemen 650 00:44:00,307 --> 00:44:03,561 it is my privilege tonight 651 00:44:03,644 --> 00:44:08,358 to introduce our guest of honor, Dr. Anna Pou. 652 00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:11,485 Whoo! Yeah! 653 00:44:15,489 --> 00:44:18,451 Thank you. Thank y'all very much. 654 00:44:19,619 --> 00:44:24,958 Thank you. I'm just gonna make a few very brief remarks. 655 00:44:25,041 --> 00:44:28,128 Um, you know, none of us here in this room 656 00:44:28,210 --> 00:44:31,755 will ever forget what happened during Katrina. 657 00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:33,717 We each have our own stories to tell. 658 00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:39,014 What happened to me inside Memorial Hospital… 659 00:44:41,766 --> 00:44:43,184 is hard to describe. 660 00:44:44,268 --> 00:44:48,898 The heat, the stench, the lack of power, 661 00:44:49,523 --> 00:44:52,652 the chaos as we tried to evacuate the patients. 662 00:44:53,402 --> 00:44:58,992 Then on Wednesday… …the evacuation stopped. They just stopped. 663 00:44:59,074 --> 00:45:01,452 We don't know why. No one told us why. 664 00:45:02,286 --> 00:45:03,788 Then on Thursday, 665 00:45:03,871 --> 00:45:08,668 we were told that everyone must be out of the hospital today. 666 00:45:08,751 --> 00:45:12,255 And after five sleepless days and nights, FEMA called, said, 667 00:45:12,838 --> 00:45:14,548 "We're taking all the airboats at noon, 668 00:45:14,632 --> 00:45:18,469 so whoever you can get out of the hospital, get them out by then, 669 00:45:18,552 --> 00:45:20,931 because they can no longer stay inside." 670 00:45:21,889 --> 00:45:23,807 The Coast Guard sent helicopters, 671 00:45:23,891 --> 00:45:27,436 but they didn't arrive until Thursday afternoon. 672 00:45:29,521 --> 00:45:31,983 I should note something that I didn't know. 673 00:45:32,817 --> 00:45:35,402 Coast Guard helicopters can't fly at night. 674 00:45:38,489 --> 00:45:44,954 We did not get the type of support that we needed to evacuate patients. 675 00:45:45,454 --> 00:45:46,456 Far from it. 676 00:45:46,539 --> 00:45:48,958 We were left on our own 677 00:45:49,041 --> 00:45:55,382 by local, state and federal governments that totally failed us. 678 00:45:55,465 --> 00:45:57,092 We were abandoned. 679 00:45:59,969 --> 00:46:02,681 We were abandoned. 680 00:46:05,474 --> 00:46:07,268 Now, I'm just a doctor. 681 00:46:10,230 --> 00:46:16,777 You know, the duty to care sounds easy. Sounds great. 682 00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:21,282 But in practice, it is not always so. 683 00:46:23,994 --> 00:46:29,206 I know in my heart that every single one of us in that hospital 684 00:46:29,916 --> 00:46:33,878 did everything we could to comfort and to care. 685 00:46:33,961 --> 00:46:38,257 No one was abandoned. No one was neglected. 686 00:46:39,467 --> 00:46:42,387 And everybody was treated with dignity. 687 00:46:43,346 --> 00:46:50,019 And although my life was changed forever on July 17th, 2006, the day of my arrest, 688 00:46:50,103 --> 00:46:54,065 I do not look upon my circumstances with bitterness, 689 00:46:54,940 --> 00:46:58,570 because God has been really phenomenal. 690 00:46:59,237 --> 00:47:05,367 And he sent me so many people to help me through this. He did. 691 00:47:05,452 --> 00:47:07,579 He sent my friends… 692 00:47:10,289 --> 00:47:13,793 …my family… …my patients… 693 00:47:14,376 --> 00:47:17,922 …nurses, my... my fellow doctors. 694 00:47:18,005 --> 00:47:21,134 I see so many of you sitting here in this very room. 695 00:47:22,969 --> 00:47:25,347 I wouldn't be here without all of you. 696 00:47:25,931 --> 00:47:28,934 You know, the courage and the strength that you have given me 697 00:47:29,016 --> 00:47:30,559 are truly a gift from God. 698 00:47:31,978 --> 00:47:34,898 So your love and the greatness of God, 699 00:47:34,981 --> 00:47:37,275 that is what got me out of bed every morning. 700 00:47:37,817 --> 00:47:41,070 You know, I consider myself one of the luckiest people in the world 701 00:47:41,153 --> 00:47:44,157 because of your support. And for that, I thank you. 702 00:47:44,240 --> 00:47:45,992 Yeah! 703 00:47:46,076 --> 00:47:50,829 Thank you very much from the bottom of my heart. Thank you. 704 00:47:53,541 --> 00:47:55,251 Thank you. 705 00:48:00,340 --> 00:48:03,425 Thank you. Thank you. 706 00:48:39,336 --> 00:48:41,547 - Hello, Anna. - Horace. 707 00:48:41,630 --> 00:48:42,965 I'm so happy to see you here. 708 00:48:43,048 --> 00:48:44,634 Mm-hmm. H-How's Vince? 709 00:48:45,217 --> 00:48:46,344 He's good. Where is he? 710 00:48:47,177 --> 00:48:50,764 - Oh, he... he's... he's over there dancing. - Oh, yeah. 711 00:48:52,266 --> 00:48:54,351 Ready to cut loose after this last year. 712 00:48:54,436 --> 00:48:56,813 I can only imagine. 713 00:48:56,896 --> 00:48:59,315 - It's been surreal, Horace. - Hmm? 714 00:48:59,398 --> 00:49:00,733 - It's been surreal. - Mmm. 715 00:49:00,817 --> 00:49:03,110 It's... That is the only way that I can describe it. 716 00:49:07,824 --> 00:49:13,121 Anna, FEMA didn't take away the airboats. 717 00:49:13,788 --> 00:49:16,123 They were run by volunteers. 718 00:49:17,918 --> 00:49:23,465 And they couldn't have called us to tell us, because our phones weren't working. 719 00:49:25,257 --> 00:49:31,556 And you do know that the Coast Guard helicopters did fly at night. 720 00:49:32,056 --> 00:49:34,226 They used night-vision goggles. 721 00:49:35,434 --> 00:49:37,019 They made rescues throughout. 722 00:49:37,103 --> 00:49:40,856 It wasn't as if the Coast Guard didn't try to save patients. 723 00:49:40,940 --> 00:49:44,193 Horace. They didn't fly at night. 724 00:49:47,655 --> 00:49:49,114 Ask Vince. He's a pilot. 725 00:49:49,199 --> 00:49:52,159 Anna, I was at Memorial too. 726 00:49:53,619 --> 00:49:58,458 Just because you remember things one way, doesn't make them true. 727 00:50:05,130 --> 00:50:08,009 Man. 728 00:50:12,889 --> 00:50:14,139 I wish you well. 60557

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