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Dr. Baltz, uh, thank you
for meeting with us again.
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W-We want to drill down on that fifth day.
September 1st.
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We're all gonna die.
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It was anarchy.
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No one knew what was going on.
No one was in charge.
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And decisions were made
that should not have been made.
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We need to seriously lower our head count,
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and I think that you should evacuate
with the next group.
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Evacuate?
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Susan, I can't evacuate, I'm a doctor.
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Doctors look after patients.
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Ho... Horace,
there is nothing else any of us can do.
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I was told to get ready to leave,
right then.
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That I was, um,
going to be sent out on a rescue boat.
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I have a tremendous sense of guilt
about it.
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About not staying there to the very end.
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You know,
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true heroism would have been
to remember why we're doctors,
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and no matter how bad
the circumstances are,
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to adhere to our oath, "Do no harm."
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But in all that chaos,
people just cast off who they were.
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And this blindness just swept in
and took over everything.
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I mean, it took over everything.
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Afternoon, everybody.
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Memorial Hospital is a hospital
in the city of New Orleans.
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It's a big hospital,
been there a long time.
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Inside that hospital
is a smaller hospital called Lakeside.
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LifeCare.
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LifeCare.
LifeCare has acute care patients,
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some of whom, it is alleged,
were killed by lethal injection.
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Dr. Anna Pou and two nurses,
Cheri Landry and Lori Budo,
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have been arrested on four charges
of principal to second degree murder.
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Four patients were injected
with morphine and "mazdolome."
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Midazolam.
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Midazolam, otherwise known as Versed.
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Now, either drug can kill you,
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but when you put them together,
you get a lethal cocktail.
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Medical professionals perhaps thought
maybe they were God.
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They were entrusted with looking after
the safety of people who needed help.
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This is not euthanasia.
This is plain and simple homicide.
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The case now goes
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to the offices of Orleans Parish
district attorney, Eddie Jordan,
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who will choose whether to pursue
indictments for murder from a grand jury.
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Thank you.
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More fallout
from Hurricane Katrina on Tuesday...
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A doctor and two nurses
are charged with murder.
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…facing charges
that they murdered four patients
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at Memorial Hospital in New Orleans.
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What kind of law enforcement
goes after doctors and nurses
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who stayed at their posts during a crisis?
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The attorney general's office arrested
three upstanding medical professionals
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so he could have himself a media event
to bolster his own reputation.
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Is your client, Dr. Pou, innocent?
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Yes. No doubt. Absolutely.
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There was no criminal misconduct.
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Here, you see this affidavit?
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This is just a piece of paper
with allegations on it,
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and like every piece of paper,
it's got two sides.
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There's no motive here,
and there is no homicide.
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What am I gonna do, Vince?
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How can I go outside? I mean,
what are people gonna think of me?
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What they're gonna think...
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They're gonna think you're being
falsely persecuted, which you are.
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Yeah, hello?
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Nope, she's not available.
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Excuse me?
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Yeah, well, it doesn't matter who I am.
Okay?
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No, I cannot.
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You know what?
I'm just going to unplug the damn thing.
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There's like... There's still six or seven
of them lurking around out there.
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- You're kidding me.
- This is surreal.
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I mean,
I have to surrender my passport.
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We have to show up
with $100,000 in bail by Thursday,
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or they're gonna put me back in jail.
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I cannot believe
this is actually happening.
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- Mine's off. They found yours?
- Hmm.
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- Hello.
- Vince, it's Dan Nuss. How are you doing?
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Hey, Dan. Uh,
we-we're doing the best we can, honestly.
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Listen, I-I'm trying to reach Anna.
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Yeah. All right.
Wou... Just hang on a minute.
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Hi, Dan.
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Anna, I'm so sorry.
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What's going on, what they're
putting you through, it just sickens me.
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Everyone's on your side,
and people are asking what they can do.
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That's reassuring to hear.
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So, here's what I propose. I want
to set up a legal defense fund for you.
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Dan, that's not necessary.
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Yes, it is. You know, let's be pragmatic.
You're gonna need the money.
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And people all wanna help.
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That is incredibly thoughtful.
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Please.
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That a few disgruntled individuals
can make these ridiculous allegations.
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And then, suddenly this whole thing
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becomes a-a absurd
sensational national news story?
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Well, as I said, it sickens me.
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I cannot tell you just h-how much
I appreciate this call and your support.
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Of course. We're all here for you.
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Well, battle's on.
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We do all this work,
and Foti can't even get the names right.
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Yeah. All that matters is what
the New Orleans district attorney does.
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What do you know about him?
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Well, I'm not sure where
Eddie Jordan's heart and mind is on this.
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Great.
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We just need to make this case
as undeniable as possible to him.
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The first thing any DA's gonna wanna know
is how the experts classify these deaths.
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So that's where we're gonna focus,
on the forensic evidence.
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I promised a night on the town
for coming to consult.
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So I got us a table at Galatoire's.
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Then we'll see what kind of trouble
we get into after that.
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Bunch of pathologists on a bar crawl.
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Doesn't get much better than that.
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So, Butch, uh,
the DA is coming to this meeting, or not?
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Eddie Jordan knows about the meeting.
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Well, let's just get started.
We can catch him up.
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Robert, do you want to lead off?
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Sure. So, my lab took a look
at tissue samples from 41 bodies.
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Twenty-three of them tested positive
for morphine or midazolam, or both.
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Okay, well,
what's your analysis of the levels?
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These drug concentrations,
they seem very high to me.
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They're sticking out like a sore thumb.
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Well, given the condition of the bodies,
your results, do you think they're valid?
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Absolutely. Yes, I do.
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All right, then.
Let's go through the patients one by one.
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Alice Hutzler, 90-year-old LifeCare
patient being treated for pneumonia.
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Wednesday night, she had no
documented complaints of pain or distress
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that indicated a need for these drugs.
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Yet she was dead on Thursday afternoon.
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With morphine and midazolam
in her liver, brain and muscle tissue.
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- Neither of which was prescribed.
- Now, looking at these results,
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my analysis, Michael,
let me know if you concur, is homicide.
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I concur.
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Rose Savoie.
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Both drugs present,
no medical need indicated. Homicide.
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- Agreed.
- Wilda McManus.
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Homicide.
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Emmett Everett.
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This patient was apparently
aware, conscious and alert.
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With neither drug prescribed.
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- Homicide.
- I concur.
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Sorry I'm late.
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- Who are you?
- I'm assistant district attorney,
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Michael Morales. Who are you?
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I'm Butch Schafer. This is Virginia Rider.
We're from the attorney general's office.
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- Where's Eddie Jordan?
- I'm here on his behalf.
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The DA's got something better to do
than look into 20-plus possible murders?
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I'm the lead prosecutor on this case.
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If you have something to share,
let's hear it.
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Mr. Morales,
can we talk privately for a minute?
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Mr. Morales, I'm sure you would agree
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that the toxicology reports
in this case are critical.
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Obviously.
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We got the city coroner,
two outside forensic pathology experts
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and the director
of one of the nation's top labs,
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who all flew in here
to examine the evidence.
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It feels like Eddie Jordan should be here.
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The attorney general knew that we were
gonna be the ones prosecuting this case,
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but he's chosen to barely involve us.
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But this is our goddamn case,
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and we'll decide
how it's gonna be managed.
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So you don't think
this case merits the DA's full attention?
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Any death in this city
merits our full attention.
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But I would not call these
typical homicides.
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Look…
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…I have been a prosecutor,
like you, for 27 years.
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And I can tell you that we have built you
a very good case. A very solid case.
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And I'll be the one to decide
whether or not that's true.
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You ready to go back in?
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I am sensing an enthusiasm gap
between us and ADA Morales.
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You think?
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Is anybody still talking
to those investigators?
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Not without a subpoena or a Tenet lawyer.
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Hope nobody else
says a goddamn word to them.
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If you don't mind me asking, uh,
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why shouldn't the staff be willing
to talk to the investigators?
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If they didn't do anything wrong,
then what do they have to worry about?
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Are you really that naĂŻve, Horace?
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Well, I was just wondering
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why nobody's willing to acknowledge
that mistakes were made.
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- Could I ask you a question, Horace?
- Sure.
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If you were given a choice
between, uh, comforting a patient,
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possibly quickening his death,
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or abandoning patients
to suffer a slow agonizing death,
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which would you choose to do?
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Why, I don't believe that was the choice.
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You can comfort people
without killing them.
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And no one had to abandon them.
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The fact is that when doctors
are given the untenable position
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of having to choose
who gets care and who does not get care,
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there are no right answers, Horace.
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There's just terrible choices.
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That's not what happened.
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It isn't? Where was the checklist?
The emergency protocols?
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Did anybody ever define this criteria
by which we were supposed to be operating?
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Ewing, all I want
is for us to sit down, all together,
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and figure out what went wrong
so we can learn from this for the future.
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I'm gonna get myself some crawfish.
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Yeah, me too.
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After Hurricane Katrina,
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the Superdome became
a symbol of loss nationwide.
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Now, it's synonymous
with hope and recovery.
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A massive renovation effort is underway,
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with workers laboring seven days a week
to fix what was once broken.
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We have been asked to cease investigating.
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What? Are you kidding me?
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Morales… …has drafted a letter
from Eddie Jordan to the attorney general
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saying that they don't need us anymore,
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that our continued work
would not be advantageous.
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"Not advantageous?"
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We have 50,000 pages
of documentary evidence.
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Well, they requested a summary.
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A summary of 50,000 pages of work.
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Okay, well, how do we respond?
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Well, I guess we write him a summary…
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and then we drop
the 50,000 pages on his ass.
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Fuck.
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When we talked to Carrie Everett,
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the first thing she made clear
was that her husband, Emmett,
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was not about to die
when Hurricane Katrina hit New Orleans.
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Mrs. Everett, was your husband near death
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- when the hurricane hit?
- No.
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Do you think they didn't want to move him?
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Let's be real.
You're on the seventh floor.
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You got a man, paralyzed, 380 pounds.
You really want to risk injuring yourself
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to try to carry that man
down seven flights of stairs?
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Because of his size, that's why
you think he may have been killed?
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Yes, that's absolutely what I believe.
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- The hurricane caused…
- Well, this ain't bad.
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The lawsuits against Tenet and Memorial
are getting publicity too.
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Well, who's filed so far?
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That I know, the families
of Emmett Everett, Alice Hutzler,
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- Rose Savoie and Hollis Alford.
- You believe this was murder?
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Yes. I think it was murder.
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Reporting from New Orleans…
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Family members are
giving interviews and filing lawsuits.
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It's, uh, creating a narrative for us
that's less than ideal.
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What they're saying, it's not true.
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Yeah, I-I know, but family members,
you know, it's emotionally powerful.
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We got to find a way to counter it.
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Like what?
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I want you to go on 60 Minutes.
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They're interested.
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It's an opportunity for you
to tell your story in your own words.
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60 Minutes?
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I know you're strong enough to handle it.
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They could destroy me.
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Or it could be a way for the entire world
to see you the way I see you.
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Think about it.
248
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If I talk to them,
they could twist my words.
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You're innocent, Anna.
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They need to know who you are.
251
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They need to know you.
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That you're a deeply caring person
who didn't do anything wrong.
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All right, guys.
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This summer, Louisiana's
attorney general stunned the city
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when he charged
that four of Memorial's dead
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did not die from illnesses
or even from the horrific conditions.
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Tonight, for the first time,
we hear from the accused.
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It is unbelievably shocking for me
that I'm actually sitting here,
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having this conversation
with you on national TV.
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And I want everybody to know
that I am not a murderer.
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You went from being
a highly respected physician
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to, uh, in the eyes of the law,
a criminal. What did that do to you?
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It completely ripped my heart out,
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because my entire life,
I've tried to do good.
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- And my entire adult life…
- She's very compelling.
266
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- I have given everything I have…
- Yeah.
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…within me to take care of my patients.
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Were people dying?
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Yes, people were dying.
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From their diseases
or from their conditions?
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You have to understand that there were
very sick people in the hospital.
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You had this intense heat,
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and we had a lack of all the tools
that we normally use.
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So people were dying
from the horrible conditions
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because they were not strong enough
to tolerate them.
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- Jesus.
- Bodies were piling up.
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The chapel became a morgue.
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Then gunshots were heard. There was fear
that looters might break in.
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Did you figure at any point
that you were really done for?
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Because you don't
know me, you don't know how tough I am.
281
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I don't think anyone gave up hope.
282
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I can tell you
I didn't give up hope because,
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as a cancer specialist, you know,
I give hope to my patients.
284
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You know, I am hope.
285
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She also says she is just
not capable of any sort of mercy killing.
286
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I do not believe in euthanasia.
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I don't think that it's anyone's
decision to make, when a patient dies.
288
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However,
what I do believe in is comfort care.
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And that means that we ensure
that they do not suffer pain.
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You know, my role, as I said,
is to help them through their pain.
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As for Dr. Pou and the nurses,
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they are faced
with the prospect of life in prison
293
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and the possibility
of never practicing medicine again.
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That is the thing
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that is truly the most p-painful for me.
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You know,
I'm very committed, and I love what I do.
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I mean, I really love it.
It is the best thing about my life.
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And the fact that
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I may not be able to continue
to do the thing that I love the most,
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where I know I can do a lot of good,
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is just phenomenally,
phenomenally painful to me.
302
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So, guess what?
We got in all the final pathology reports.
303
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Oh, wait. Can't I just
have a cup of coffee first?
304
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- Not a chance.
- Okay.
305
00:20:36,195 --> 00:20:37,864
Baden and Wecht
confirmed in writing
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what they told in Minyard's office.
307
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"Nine deaths
from LifeCare were due to drug poisoning."
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And Wecht, he analyzed 20 deaths
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and concluded that all of them
resulted from drug toxicity.
310
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Plus, we got additional reports
from Dr. Frank Brescia.
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"Homicide in nine cases."
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And then Dr. James Young,
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who is the president of
the American Academy of Forensic Sciences.
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"All these patients survived
the adverse events of the previous days,
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and for every patient
on a floor to have died
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in one three-and-a-half-hour period
with drug toxicity is beyond coincidence."
317
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It's irrefutable.
318
00:21:04,932 --> 00:21:08,936
Well, it's not.
I mean, nothing's irrefutable.
319
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They're gonna challenge
the conditions of the bodies
320
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and Foti's claims
about the lethality of the drugs...
321
00:21:13,567 --> 00:21:16,861
But we got four top medical experts
all claiming these were homicides.
322
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Yeah.
323
00:21:20,365 --> 00:21:21,991
What is gonna be enough for you, Butch?
324
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This isn't about me.
325
00:21:25,452 --> 00:21:27,538
What?
Do I think these folks were murdered?
326
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Hell yes, of course I do.
327
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But what I'm trying to tell you is that
328
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evidence alone
isn't going to get it done here.
329
00:21:33,211 --> 00:21:34,712
Why? Because Pou went on 60 Minutes?
330
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Yeah, and she did incredibly well.
331
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- A TV show is not gonna decide this.
- You don't think it matters?
332
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- N-No.
- Okay.
333
00:21:40,926 --> 00:21:42,613
People in this city,
they're gonna want to know,
334
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"Why should Anna Pou,
a heroic doctor, go to jail?
335
00:21:47,267 --> 00:21:51,645
Why should she be the one person to take
the blame for everything that went wrong?"
336
00:21:52,230 --> 00:21:54,441
You know who didn't get arrested?
337
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Nobody from any corporate entity.
338
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Nobody from Tenet. Nobody from LifeCare.
339
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And what about the government officials?
340
00:22:02,073 --> 00:22:04,534
Why wasn't Governor Blanco arrested?
Or Mayor Nagin?
341
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They were the leaders.
They were the goddamn people in charge!
342
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That's what we have to overcome.
343
00:22:19,340 --> 00:22:21,968
Look, I'm sor... I just...
344
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I'm... I'm just trying
to be realistic here,
345
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so we can...
We can figure out how to get this done.
346
00:22:26,972 --> 00:22:28,224
Yeah, so what do you wanna do?
347
00:22:28,307 --> 00:22:31,560
Uh, let's just send
all that forensic evidence over to Morales
348
00:22:31,644 --> 00:22:33,939
and, you know,
maybe put a big red bow on it.
349
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Will do.
350
00:22:42,154 --> 00:22:47,410
Congratulations, Anna. You were fantastic.
That could not have gone better.
351
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- I hope you're right.
- Oh, I know I am.
352
00:22:49,703 --> 00:22:51,544
I've been in touch
with various medical groups.
353
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Statements of support are pouring in.
354
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All right, listen to this.
355
00:22:55,544 --> 00:22:57,939
I go... Just got this
from the Louisiana State Medical Society.
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"The LSMS is confident
that Dr. Pou performed courageously
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under the most challenging
and horrific conditions,
358
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and made decisions
in the best interest of her patients."
359
00:23:08,056 --> 00:23:10,517
The medical community
is lining up behind you.
360
00:23:11,101 --> 00:23:12,309
It's very reassuring.
361
00:23:12,394 --> 00:23:14,895
I just got a call from Frank Minyard,
the parish coroner.
362
00:23:14,980 --> 00:23:17,982
He, uh, saw the interview.
He wants to sit with you.
363
00:23:18,607 --> 00:23:20,442
Why would I want to do that?
364
00:23:20,527 --> 00:23:22,862
This is a good thing. Trust me.
365
00:23:26,950 --> 00:23:29,118
It shocks me
that we've never met before.
366
00:23:29,702 --> 00:23:32,998
I knew your father well. In fact,
I used to come by your house all the time.
367
00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:35,333
Well, you know,
I was one of 11 kids.
368
00:23:35,416 --> 00:23:39,546
So, maybe I ran past you or... or
threw up on you, or something.
369
00:23:39,628 --> 00:23:41,756
That could've happened.
370
00:23:41,839 --> 00:23:43,424
Well, your father was a wonderful man.
371
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- And a great physician.
- Yes.
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00:23:45,926 --> 00:23:48,721
And he was especially kind
in referring patients to me
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when I was starting my OB-GYN practice.
374
00:23:52,601 --> 00:23:55,311
He is the reason that I'm a doctor.
375
00:23:56,770 --> 00:23:57,771
Hmm.
376
00:23:59,356 --> 00:24:00,817
So, how you holding up?
377
00:24:02,234 --> 00:24:05,488
To be honest…
…it hasn't been easy.
378
00:24:05,571 --> 00:24:07,656
Oof, I'm sure it has not.
379
00:24:11,243 --> 00:24:14,288
I-I do have some idea
what you went through.
380
00:24:15,123 --> 00:24:17,791
During the storm,
to get to my office downtown,
381
00:24:17,875 --> 00:24:21,462
I had to wade, swim,
then hitch a ride on a boat.
382
00:24:21,546 --> 00:24:22,547
Oh, my word.
383
00:24:22,631 --> 00:24:24,215
I was stuck there for four days.
384
00:24:25,508 --> 00:24:29,887
- H-How precious did food and water seem?
- Yes.
385
00:24:29,971 --> 00:24:32,348
At night, I couldn't sleep
for all the sounds of gunshots.
386
00:24:32,432 --> 00:24:33,767
We heard them too.
387
00:24:33,849 --> 00:24:37,479
The people that weren't here,
they just can't understand.
388
00:24:37,561 --> 00:24:39,940
- No, they cannot.
- No.
389
00:24:41,148 --> 00:24:45,819
My job, as I see it, is not just
examining bodies. Anybody can do that.
390
00:24:46,779 --> 00:24:49,990
What I do is try to understand
why things happened.
391
00:24:50,825 --> 00:24:56,914
Um, I like to get a handle on the people
involved, meet them face-to-face if I can.
392
00:25:01,419 --> 00:25:04,088
I-It's terrible right now,
the way our city's being judged.
393
00:25:04,172 --> 00:25:05,382
I couldn't agree more.
394
00:25:05,464 --> 00:25:08,676
I've dealt with
over 650 dead bodies from Katrina.
395
00:25:10,178 --> 00:25:13,306
650. And that's just here in New Orleans.
396
00:25:13,390 --> 00:25:14,641
It's unfathomable.
397
00:25:15,683 --> 00:25:18,103
I thank God I was not in that hospital,
398
00:25:19,354 --> 00:25:21,815
that I was not the one
who had to make those decisions.
399
00:25:24,067 --> 00:25:25,859
God bless you for all you did.
400
00:25:31,365 --> 00:25:34,286
Thank you. Thank you.
401
00:25:56,682 --> 00:25:59,394
That was Green Day, right here
on WVXT Baton Rouge,
402
00:25:59,477 --> 00:26:00,769
home of great rock music.
403
00:26:00,854 --> 00:26:02,897
And now, these local news headlines.
404
00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:06,483
New Orleans coroner, Frank Minyard,
released a statement this morning
405
00:26:06,567 --> 00:26:09,153
saying he's found no evidence of homicide
406
00:26:09,237 --> 00:26:11,780
in the case of 45 dead bodies
discovered last year
407
00:26:11,865 --> 00:26:14,742
at Memorial Medical Center,
in the wake of Hurricane...
408
00:26:14,826 --> 00:26:16,411
Hello?
409
00:26:16,493 --> 00:26:18,163
Did you hear what Minyard just announced?
410
00:26:18,246 --> 00:26:19,538
Uh, yeah, I just heard it.
411
00:26:19,623 --> 00:26:21,022
How can he say there's no evidence?
412
00:26:21,082 --> 00:26:23,626
Well, I told you, he's gonna want
to pass his own judgments.
413
00:26:23,710 --> 00:26:26,212
- Well, that's bullshit!
- Hey, where are you?
414
00:26:26,796 --> 00:26:28,088
I'm going to New Orleans.
415
00:26:28,173 --> 00:26:30,217
No... Virgin... Virginia, no, no, no...
416
00:26:31,050 --> 00:26:32,093
Fuck!
417
00:26:36,138 --> 00:26:38,892
Excuse me! Hey! You can't go in there.
418
00:26:41,853 --> 00:26:44,105
How could you do this?
How could you say this?
419
00:26:44,189 --> 00:26:47,192
The... There is so much support
for Dr. Pou at this time.
420
00:26:47,275 --> 00:26:51,820
A public declaration o-of homicide would
do a lot more than just stir things up.
421
00:26:52,572 --> 00:26:54,615
It would be very bad for our city.
422
00:26:54,699 --> 00:26:57,802
How's it gonna be for the city when people
learn you swept the truth under the rug?
423
00:26:57,826 --> 00:26:59,663
Tell me something, Miss Rider.
424
00:26:59,746 --> 00:27:03,833
W-What happens the next time there's
a hurricane? Or the time after that?
425
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:06,711
Because those times will come for certain.
426
00:27:06,795 --> 00:27:10,423
W-What happens when there's no
health care workers to fill our hospitals?
427
00:27:10,507 --> 00:27:12,717
No... No doctors. No nurses.
428
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:15,761
Because they're too afraid that
if they do anything wrong in an emergency,
429
00:27:15,845 --> 00:27:17,405
they're gonna be treated like criminals.
430
00:27:17,430 --> 00:27:18,682
What happens to our city then?
431
00:27:18,765 --> 00:27:21,726
You're telling me that doctors are gonna
threaten the people of this city?
432
00:27:22,352 --> 00:27:23,703
That they're gonna walk off the job?
433
00:27:23,728 --> 00:27:25,230
Besides, that is not your job.
434
00:27:25,313 --> 00:27:26,690
I respectfully disagree.
435
00:27:26,772 --> 00:27:31,361
For 31 years, I... The entirety of my job's
been doing what's best for this city.
436
00:27:31,443 --> 00:27:34,280
No, your job, your actual job,
437
00:27:34,364 --> 00:27:37,909
is to make judgments based
on scientific fact, based on evidence.
438
00:27:38,576 --> 00:27:40,452
So just do your damn job.
439
00:27:41,913 --> 00:27:43,113
Do what you're supposed to do.
440
00:27:52,965 --> 00:27:55,969
From a distance,
it looks like any other American city,
441
00:27:56,051 --> 00:28:00,056
but to revisit New Orleans now
is to realize the scale of the betrayal.
442
00:28:02,893 --> 00:28:06,020
The president promised
the biggest rebuilding program in history,
443
00:28:06,104 --> 00:28:08,272
but come
to the very poorest neighborhoods,
444
00:28:08,355 --> 00:28:11,317
and there is no evidence
of government help whatsoever.
445
00:28:11,401 --> 00:28:14,904
The Ninth Ward, like the other poor,
mainly Black areas of this city,
446
00:28:14,988 --> 00:28:16,865
are being left to, quite literally, rot.
447
00:28:17,449 --> 00:28:19,241
And what is also so striking
448
00:28:19,326 --> 00:28:22,662
is there are very few people left here
to ask about the future.
449
00:28:23,203 --> 00:28:26,458
The Lower Ninth Ward
lost over 10,000 residents,
450
00:28:26,540 --> 00:28:29,920
leaving just 7%
of its previous population.
451
00:28:30,002 --> 00:28:33,464
It's very unfair. I think it's unfair.
452
00:28:33,548 --> 00:28:37,509
I don't know how long I can do this.
I might have to pack it up and move away.
453
00:28:53,734 --> 00:28:57,322
Whoa. Look at you
buying the first round. What...
454
00:28:57,404 --> 00:28:58,530
Thanks for meeting me.
455
00:28:59,406 --> 00:29:00,450
Hey, you all right?
456
00:29:03,118 --> 00:29:04,371
Butch…
457
00:29:06,288 --> 00:29:07,958
I can't do this anymore.
458
00:29:10,376 --> 00:29:12,586
I get how there's politics here.
I'm not an idiot.
459
00:29:12,671 --> 00:29:16,758
But I don't get how
people can stray so far from the facts.
460
00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:22,180
And I'm just…
I just can't stomach it anymore.
461
00:29:24,348 --> 00:29:27,978
- Look, I overreacted.
- We have a damn good case.
462
00:29:28,060 --> 00:29:31,314
No. You were exactly right.
463
00:29:31,397 --> 00:29:34,358
There's way more at play here
than just a set of facts,
464
00:29:34,442 --> 00:29:35,943
and I should open my eyes to it.
465
00:29:37,862 --> 00:29:39,447
I should've listened to you, but…
466
00:29:41,490 --> 00:29:43,927
now that I see where this train is going,
I've gotta get off of it
467
00:29:43,951 --> 00:29:45,578
- for my own sanity.
- No, Virginia.
468
00:29:45,662 --> 00:29:46,746
No, I'm not you.
469
00:29:49,124 --> 00:29:50,125
I just…
470
00:29:52,626 --> 00:29:56,088
I can't not
take this all incredibly personally.
471
00:29:57,339 --> 00:29:59,718
And it's tearing me apart.
472
00:30:04,471 --> 00:30:06,807
I've loved every minute
of working with you, Butch.
473
00:30:10,478 --> 00:30:11,688
But I'm done.
474
00:30:16,692 --> 00:30:20,488
- Can I argue this with you?
- Please don't.
475
00:30:20,571 --> 00:30:21,865
It's hard enough.
476
00:30:24,951 --> 00:30:26,452
We made a great team.
477
00:31:04,990 --> 00:31:07,826
Sir, they're almost ready for you.
478
00:31:17,378 --> 00:31:19,213
Ah. Thank you, dear.
479
00:31:23,593 --> 00:31:25,679
Thank y'all
for coming out here today.
480
00:31:26,721 --> 00:31:29,057
I wanna clarify my prior statement.
481
00:31:29,848 --> 00:31:32,810
When I said I'd seen
no evidence of homicide
482
00:31:33,394 --> 00:31:36,105
thus far in the investigation
at Memorial Hospital,
483
00:31:36,189 --> 00:31:38,650
I did not mean that homicide was not
484
00:31:38,732 --> 00:31:41,318
the manner of death
of patients at Memorial.
485
00:31:42,069 --> 00:31:46,449
That is still to be determined and will be
the subject of further investigation
486
00:31:46,950 --> 00:31:50,996
and a presentation I will make
to the special grand jury.
487
00:31:51,078 --> 00:31:53,623
Thank you.
488
00:31:55,541 --> 00:31:59,003
How can he say one thing and then
say something completely different?
489
00:31:59,753 --> 00:32:00,755
I don't know.
490
00:32:00,838 --> 00:32:03,465
…now saying
he has not ruled out homicide.
491
00:32:03,549 --> 00:32:04,634
I'm gonna go do some work.
492
00:32:05,426 --> 00:32:08,888
Darling, maybe you should
take it easy for just a little bit.
493
00:32:08,971 --> 00:32:12,517
What am I gonna do? Sit around, worrying
about some outcome that I can't control?
494
00:32:12,601 --> 00:32:15,729
No, but what about this?
How about we take a trip, huh?
495
00:32:16,229 --> 00:32:18,583
Come on. Just the two of us.
We could just go down to Florida.
496
00:32:18,606 --> 00:32:21,942
And have someone take a picture of me
sitting on some beach vacationing?
497
00:32:23,403 --> 00:32:26,002
Vince, I know your heart
is in the right place, but that's not me.
498
00:32:26,071 --> 00:32:27,699
That's... Y-You know me.
499
00:32:27,781 --> 00:32:30,701
I-I have to keep busy.
That's how I keep myself sane.
500
00:32:39,627 --> 00:32:40,670
You may be seated.
501
00:32:45,342 --> 00:32:47,344
- Good morning.
- Morning. Morning.
502
00:32:47,426 --> 00:32:49,179
Ladies and gentlemen,
you have been selected
503
00:32:49,261 --> 00:32:52,766
as members of
the special grand jury for Orleans Parish.
504
00:32:53,807 --> 00:32:55,434
Now, you will hear evidence,
505
00:32:55,518 --> 00:32:57,479
and you will be guided
in your decision-making
506
00:32:57,561 --> 00:32:59,480
by the district attorney's office.
507
00:33:00,898 --> 00:33:02,692
This is not a trial.
508
00:33:03,359 --> 00:33:06,570
You will not be hearing
impassioned arguments from both sides.
509
00:33:07,071 --> 00:33:10,157
Instead, the district attorney's office
will lead you
510
00:33:10,241 --> 00:33:13,662
through information that they
have gathered on this particular case.
511
00:33:14,162 --> 00:33:19,459
They and I will provide instruction,
and you will indict when warranted.
512
00:33:20,585 --> 00:33:24,838
You will also keep secret all of
what goes on in here. Is that understood?
513
00:33:24,923 --> 00:33:26,590
Yes. Yes, Your Honor.
514
00:33:27,092 --> 00:33:29,678
Then your service has commenced.
515
00:33:32,681 --> 00:33:35,141
And we won't know anything
until they make a decision.
516
00:33:35,808 --> 00:33:41,772
What they do behind closed doors
goes on in total secrecy. All of it.
517
00:33:44,067 --> 00:33:49,489
If you asked me to devise
the most exquisite torture imaginable,
518
00:33:51,365 --> 00:33:52,659
this would be it.
519
00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:55,161
Yeah.
520
00:33:56,538 --> 00:34:01,166
A trial, no matter the verdict,
is gonna completely ruin me, Rick.
521
00:34:03,627 --> 00:34:05,130
What am I gonna do?
522
00:34:10,135 --> 00:34:11,385
All right, everyone.
523
00:34:11,469 --> 00:34:13,471
Um, this is Maya.
524
00:34:13,554 --> 00:34:17,434
She's a 49-year-old woman
with recurrent pharyngeal carcinoma.
525
00:34:18,018 --> 00:34:20,728
Uh, we're gonna be working here
for a while,
526
00:34:20,811 --> 00:34:24,273
so I want all of us to stay focused.
527
00:34:24,356 --> 00:34:25,525
Okay.
528
00:34:25,608 --> 00:34:29,445
We're gonna do all we can
for her with God's help.
529
00:34:29,527 --> 00:34:30,864
Amen.
530
00:34:42,626 --> 00:34:46,795
Dr. Pou, you were amazing today.
531
00:34:49,047 --> 00:34:51,217
We did some good work. All of us.
532
00:34:52,677 --> 00:34:56,972
Doc, I just wanted to let you know,
I contributed to your defense fund.
533
00:34:59,266 --> 00:35:02,853
Monica. Thank you.
534
00:35:03,438 --> 00:35:05,565
You're the kind of woman I wanna be.
535
00:35:07,150 --> 00:35:08,693
And I'm praying for you.
536
00:35:11,905 --> 00:35:16,326
Thank you. Yeah,
I'm praying for me too.
537
00:35:37,347 --> 00:35:40,266
Ladies and gentlemen
of the jury, welcome back.
538
00:35:41,684 --> 00:35:44,728
Michael Morales, present
on behalf of the State of Louisiana.
539
00:35:44,813 --> 00:35:47,315
The grand jurors have a return
on this matter, Your Honor.
540
00:35:47,398 --> 00:35:49,358
In the case of Anna Pou,
541
00:35:49,442 --> 00:35:52,278
you've been asked to consider
a ten-count bill of indictment.
542
00:35:52,862 --> 00:35:54,530
One count of second-degree murder
543
00:35:54,614 --> 00:35:58,159
and nine counts of conspiracy
to commit second-degree murder.
544
00:35:58,827 --> 00:35:59,952
What say you?
545
00:36:21,056 --> 00:36:25,603
In each of these ten counts it is noted,
"Not a true bill of indictment."
546
00:36:25,686 --> 00:36:26,855
Is that correct?
547
00:36:27,438 --> 00:36:28,731
Yes, Your Honor.
548
00:36:29,231 --> 00:36:33,777
Very well then.
This matter and your service is concluded.
549
00:36:34,862 --> 00:36:37,282
An update now
on a controversial criminal case.
550
00:36:37,364 --> 00:36:39,159
The grand jury in New Orleans
will not indict
551
00:36:39,242 --> 00:36:42,454
a surgeon accused of killing
four seriously ill hospital patients.
552
00:36:42,536 --> 00:36:46,498
The grand jury have decided
not to bring criminal charges against her.
553
00:36:46,583 --> 00:36:47,583
Anna.
554
00:36:49,085 --> 00:36:50,085
They didn't indict you.
555
00:36:50,170 --> 00:36:51,809
- Not on any of the charges.
- Oh, my God.
556
00:36:51,838 --> 00:36:55,217
- Oh, my God. Oh, God. Lord, thank you.
- What? What? Nothing?
557
00:36:55,300 --> 00:36:57,135
Oh, Lord, thank you.
558
00:36:57,219 --> 00:36:58,677
Nothing? Oh.
559
00:36:58,762 --> 00:37:00,222
No.
560
00:37:08,438 --> 00:37:10,398
District Attorney Jordan.
561
00:37:10,481 --> 00:37:12,083
What do you think
of the grand jury's decision?
562
00:37:12,108 --> 00:37:15,070
I agree with the grand jury. Thank you.
563
00:37:15,152 --> 00:37:16,820
Mr. Morales, your comment, please?
564
00:37:16,905 --> 00:37:18,280
Please take a copy.
565
00:37:18,364 --> 00:37:21,909
You'll see that forensic experts
from all over the country
566
00:37:21,992 --> 00:37:25,996
have concluded that the deaths in question
that occurred at Memorial Medical Center,
567
00:37:26,081 --> 00:37:27,791
they were homicides.
568
00:37:28,750 --> 00:37:32,170
If that's the case, sir,
then why didn't the grand jury indict?
569
00:37:32,253 --> 00:37:35,882
Because they didn't hear directly
from any of these forensic experts.
570
00:37:35,965 --> 00:37:39,260
- Why not?
- Well, you'll have to ask the DA that.
571
00:37:39,344 --> 00:37:42,389
Do you think it's fair to judge Dr. Pou
on the decisions she made
572
00:37:42,472 --> 00:37:45,224
given the incredibly horrific conditions
that existed?
573
00:37:45,307 --> 00:37:47,143
I refuse to accept that the conditions
574
00:37:47,226 --> 00:37:49,728
were any excuse
for the taking of a human life.
575
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:53,400
What is the value of a human life?
576
00:37:54,442 --> 00:37:57,695
What conditions can possibly justify
the taking of human lives?
577
00:37:57,778 --> 00:38:00,072
These are the questions
that this case raises.
578
00:38:00,155 --> 00:38:04,827
So, no. I do not believe
in any way, shape or form
579
00:38:04,911 --> 00:38:07,539
that the grand jury
reached the right conclusion.
580
00:38:15,005 --> 00:38:16,005
Butch?
581
00:38:18,007 --> 00:38:19,175
Are you okay?
582
00:38:19,259 --> 00:38:20,760
Yeah, yeah, I'm fine.
583
00:38:26,099 --> 00:38:28,309
Hon, I know you don't like
to discuss your cases,
584
00:38:28,393 --> 00:38:33,148
but…
I'm sorry this one didn't go your way.
585
00:38:35,358 --> 00:38:39,820
Th-That hospital…
…it wasn't a damn battlefield
586
00:38:39,905 --> 00:38:42,615
with mortar shells coming in.
It was a shelter.
587
00:38:42,699 --> 00:38:47,036
They had food and water and rescue boats.
588
00:38:47,621 --> 00:38:51,625
Wouldn't somebody rather risk
getting carried downstairs…
589
00:38:51,708 --> 00:38:54,960
…or, hell, low... lowered out a window,
rather than not try at all?
590
00:38:55,045 --> 00:38:56,844
Why would you not at least try
to get him out?
591
00:38:57,838 --> 00:39:01,425
If you're a doctor, you get to just decide
who lives and... and who dies?
592
00:39:01,509 --> 00:39:02,989
If you feel like giving your patients
593
00:39:03,052 --> 00:39:05,179
huge doses of morphine
and Versed cocktail,
594
00:39:05,262 --> 00:39:07,641
that's your call?
595
00:39:10,393 --> 00:39:12,103
And how do you ignore the fact
596
00:39:12,186 --> 00:39:15,356
that... that... that other people
were evacuating people
597
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:18,108
at the same time
that you were "giving comfort"?
598
00:39:25,992 --> 00:39:27,244
These poor people.
599
00:39:30,121 --> 00:39:33,250
These poor folks, they had no idea
what was happening to them.
600
00:39:35,793 --> 00:39:39,005
They had
no way of defending themselves.
601
00:39:42,925 --> 00:39:48,347
- This re... This really hurts, Lin.
- Lin, this re... this really hurts.
602
00:39:49,431 --> 00:39:50,474
I know.
603
00:40:03,445 --> 00:40:05,447
I wanted to make sure you got this back.
604
00:40:11,496 --> 00:40:13,414
I wish we could've done
a better job for you.
605
00:40:14,291 --> 00:40:15,750
Wasn't your fault.
606
00:40:16,418 --> 00:40:20,755
Dr. Pou and all those people with power,
they lined up right behind her.
607
00:40:22,673 --> 00:40:29,597
Emmett. You know,
he was my high school sweetheart.
608
00:40:31,682 --> 00:40:35,519
I met him when I needed a date
to the junior prom.
609
00:40:36,563 --> 00:40:40,483
He was the brother of a friend of mine,
and I'd seen him sitting on the porch.
610
00:40:41,568 --> 00:40:43,152
So I said to my friend,
611
00:40:43,235 --> 00:40:45,739
"Go ask your brother
if he wanna take me to the prom."
612
00:40:45,822 --> 00:40:48,824
And he did.
613
00:40:50,911 --> 00:40:51,911
Emmett.
614
00:40:52,913 --> 00:40:55,581
He used to say to me,
"Girl, you gonna be my wife."
615
00:40:56,583 --> 00:41:01,463
And I said, "Boy, you'd be
the last person on Earth I'd marry."
616
00:41:02,422 --> 00:41:03,757
Just to throw him off.
617
00:41:06,425 --> 00:41:10,722
He was the most loving,
caring man I have ever met.
618
00:41:12,097 --> 00:41:13,516
I wish I could've met him.
619
00:41:17,186 --> 00:41:20,231
There ain't
no statute of limitations on murder.
620
00:41:21,815 --> 00:41:27,739
I've been waiting a long time for justice.
I can wait a little while longer.
621
00:41:43,838 --> 00:41:47,300
Hey, look at this.
It's the Ghost of Christmas Past.
622
00:41:47,384 --> 00:41:50,594
Oh, yeah. Still haunting you.
623
00:41:50,679 --> 00:41:52,597
Just came by to get the rest of my things.
624
00:41:53,514 --> 00:41:55,391
No one's taken your spot out front, I see.
625
00:41:56,351 --> 00:41:58,603
Yeah, just taking a quiet five.
626
00:42:01,273 --> 00:42:03,692
Well, I guess you were smart
to get out when you did, huh?
627
00:42:05,443 --> 00:42:07,487
Doesn't make it any easier to stomach.
628
00:42:11,615 --> 00:42:15,161
Pardon my French, but what the fuck
happened in there?
629
00:42:16,288 --> 00:42:19,916
Among other things,
they... they never called Kristy Johnson.
630
00:42:21,293 --> 00:42:22,293
What?
631
00:42:23,085 --> 00:42:25,338
How do you not call
the eyewitness to a murder?
632
00:42:25,422 --> 00:42:26,755
And it doesn't look like any
633
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:29,675
of the outside forensic experts
testified, either.
634
00:42:29,759 --> 00:42:30,969
What were they thinking?
635
00:42:31,677 --> 00:42:34,764
That is a profound question.
636
00:42:36,349 --> 00:42:41,396
But the records of the special grand jury
are permanently sealed,
637
00:42:41,478 --> 00:42:42,688
so we'll never know.
638
00:42:44,900 --> 00:42:47,777
I can't help but think that
we fucked up by just going after Pou.
639
00:42:48,445 --> 00:42:49,445
Uh…
640
00:42:49,528 --> 00:42:56,077
…it was a river of evidence that flowed
a certain way, and we had to follow it.
641
00:42:57,411 --> 00:42:58,788
Led us right to Pou.
642
00:42:59,289 --> 00:43:03,668
Yeah, to a doctor who was exemplary
in every way. Except for when she wasn't.
643
00:43:05,295 --> 00:43:06,295
Hmm.
644
00:43:09,298 --> 00:43:10,342
Onward.
645
00:43:13,844 --> 00:43:15,554
I'm glad I ran into you, Butch.
646
00:43:16,139 --> 00:43:17,139
Me too.
647
00:43:18,682 --> 00:43:21,186
You take care of yourself, Virginia.
648
00:43:22,938 --> 00:43:23,938
Bye.
649
00:43:58,306 --> 00:43:59,599
Ladies and gentlemen
650
00:44:00,307 --> 00:44:03,561
it is my privilege tonight
651
00:44:03,644 --> 00:44:08,358
to introduce our guest of honor,
Dr. Anna Pou.
652
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:11,485
Whoo! Yeah!
653
00:44:15,489 --> 00:44:18,451
Thank you.
Thank y'all very much.
654
00:44:19,619 --> 00:44:24,958
Thank you. I'm just gonna
make a few very brief remarks.
655
00:44:25,041 --> 00:44:28,128
Um, you know, none of us here in this room
656
00:44:28,210 --> 00:44:31,755
will ever forget
what happened during Katrina.
657
00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:33,717
We each have our own stories to tell.
658
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:39,014
What happened to me
inside Memorial Hospital…
659
00:44:41,766 --> 00:44:43,184
is hard to describe.
660
00:44:44,268 --> 00:44:48,898
The heat, the stench, the lack of power,
661
00:44:49,523 --> 00:44:52,652
the chaos as we tried
to evacuate the patients.
662
00:44:53,402 --> 00:44:58,992
Then on Wednesday… …the evacuation
stopped. They just stopped.
663
00:44:59,074 --> 00:45:01,452
We don't know why. No one told us why.
664
00:45:02,286 --> 00:45:03,788
Then on Thursday,
665
00:45:03,871 --> 00:45:08,668
we were told that everyone
must be out of the hospital today.
666
00:45:08,751 --> 00:45:12,255
And after five sleepless days and nights,
FEMA called, said,
667
00:45:12,838 --> 00:45:14,548
"We're taking all the airboats at noon,
668
00:45:14,632 --> 00:45:18,469
so whoever you can get
out of the hospital, get them out by then,
669
00:45:18,552 --> 00:45:20,931
because they can no longer stay inside."
670
00:45:21,889 --> 00:45:23,807
The Coast Guard sent helicopters,
671
00:45:23,891 --> 00:45:27,436
but they didn't arrive
until Thursday afternoon.
672
00:45:29,521 --> 00:45:31,983
I should note something
that I didn't know.
673
00:45:32,817 --> 00:45:35,402
Coast Guard helicopters
can't fly at night.
674
00:45:38,489 --> 00:45:44,954
We did not get the type of support
that we needed to evacuate patients.
675
00:45:45,454 --> 00:45:46,456
Far from it.
676
00:45:46,539 --> 00:45:48,958
We were left on our own
677
00:45:49,041 --> 00:45:55,382
by local, state and federal governments
that totally failed us.
678
00:45:55,465 --> 00:45:57,092
We were abandoned.
679
00:45:59,969 --> 00:46:02,681
We were abandoned.
680
00:46:05,474 --> 00:46:07,268
Now, I'm just a doctor.
681
00:46:10,230 --> 00:46:16,777
You know, the duty to care sounds easy.
Sounds great.
682
00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:21,282
But in practice, it is not always so.
683
00:46:23,994 --> 00:46:29,206
I know in my heart that every single one
of us in that hospital
684
00:46:29,916 --> 00:46:33,878
did everything we could
to comfort and to care.
685
00:46:33,961 --> 00:46:38,257
No one was abandoned.
No one was neglected.
686
00:46:39,467 --> 00:46:42,387
And everybody was treated with dignity.
687
00:46:43,346 --> 00:46:50,019
And although my life was changed forever
on July 17th, 2006, the day of my arrest,
688
00:46:50,103 --> 00:46:54,065
I do not look upon my circumstances
with bitterness,
689
00:46:54,940 --> 00:46:58,570
because God has been really phenomenal.
690
00:46:59,237 --> 00:47:05,367
And he sent me so many people
to help me through this. He did.
691
00:47:05,452 --> 00:47:07,579
He sent my friends…
692
00:47:10,289 --> 00:47:13,793
…my family… …my patients…
693
00:47:14,376 --> 00:47:17,922
…nurses, my... my fellow doctors.
694
00:47:18,005 --> 00:47:21,134
I see so many of you
sitting here in this very room.
695
00:47:22,969 --> 00:47:25,347
I wouldn't be here without all of you.
696
00:47:25,931 --> 00:47:28,934
You know, the courage and the strength
that you have given me
697
00:47:29,016 --> 00:47:30,559
are truly a gift from God.
698
00:47:31,978 --> 00:47:34,898
So your love and the greatness of God,
699
00:47:34,981 --> 00:47:37,275
that is what got me
out of bed every morning.
700
00:47:37,817 --> 00:47:41,070
You know, I consider myself
one of the luckiest people in the world
701
00:47:41,153 --> 00:47:44,157
because of your support.
And for that, I thank you.
702
00:47:44,240 --> 00:47:45,992
Yeah!
703
00:47:46,076 --> 00:47:50,829
Thank you very much
from the bottom of my heart. Thank you.
704
00:47:53,541 --> 00:47:55,251
Thank you.
705
00:48:00,340 --> 00:48:03,425
Thank you. Thank you.
706
00:48:39,336 --> 00:48:41,547
- Hello, Anna.
- Horace.
707
00:48:41,630 --> 00:48:42,965
I'm so happy to see you here.
708
00:48:43,048 --> 00:48:44,634
Mm-hmm. H-How's Vince?
709
00:48:45,217 --> 00:48:46,344
He's good. Where is he?
710
00:48:47,177 --> 00:48:50,764
- Oh, he... he's... he's over there dancing.
- Oh, yeah.
711
00:48:52,266 --> 00:48:54,351
Ready to cut loose after this last year.
712
00:48:54,436 --> 00:48:56,813
I can only imagine.
713
00:48:56,896 --> 00:48:59,315
- It's been surreal, Horace.
- Hmm?
714
00:48:59,398 --> 00:49:00,733
- It's been surreal.
- Mmm.
715
00:49:00,817 --> 00:49:03,110
It's... That is the only way
that I can describe it.
716
00:49:07,824 --> 00:49:13,121
Anna, FEMA didn't take away the airboats.
717
00:49:13,788 --> 00:49:16,123
They were run by volunteers.
718
00:49:17,918 --> 00:49:23,465
And they couldn't have called us to tell
us, because our phones weren't working.
719
00:49:25,257 --> 00:49:31,556
And you do know that the Coast Guard
helicopters did fly at night.
720
00:49:32,056 --> 00:49:34,226
They used night-vision goggles.
721
00:49:35,434 --> 00:49:37,019
They made rescues throughout.
722
00:49:37,103 --> 00:49:40,856
It wasn't as if the Coast Guard
didn't try to save patients.
723
00:49:40,940 --> 00:49:44,193
Horace. They didn't fly at night.
724
00:49:47,655 --> 00:49:49,114
Ask Vince. He's a pilot.
725
00:49:49,199 --> 00:49:52,159
Anna, I was at Memorial too.
726
00:49:53,619 --> 00:49:58,458
Just because you remember things one way,
doesn't make them true.
727
00:50:05,130 --> 00:50:08,009
Man.
728
00:50:12,889 --> 00:50:14,139
I wish you well.
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