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Incomplete portrait of Gertrude Stein
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As is said to be the case for the dying,
she was able to see clearly and freely
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the things like they really are and not
like one would like them to be.
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I have always been bothered by the fact that people
take a bigger interest in my person than in my work
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If my work wasn't there, nobody would take any interest
in me, so why aren't they more interested in my work?
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But all in all I don't know how well you know my
work, so maybe I'd better tell you everything.
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For a long time I didn't know what
childhood was, but I remember a miracle
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But possessing something and rememb-
ering are two very different things
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There's a moment from childhood or any
time like a country school.
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And I ask myself if I should talk about
what I remember as I do about what I don't
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If I remember what I remember, then
why do I remember?
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I remember it so well that it seems
that I don't remember after all
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And if it doesn't resemble then I don't
really remember. ls it any use?
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I was a little girl from California and I discovered
like everybody the difference between life and death.
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I discovered that stars are moving worlds,
I discovered comets, the wind and the rain
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Grass, flowers, butterflies didn't interest me like before, but
there was books and food, food and books: two great things
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During childhood there is almost
everything, if not in fact everything
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One suspects that life and death are quite
alike. One isn't sure but one wonders
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It's when the desire to become
legendary sets in.
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All that they say, all that they know,
all that they repeat is legend
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lt must be legencl to be taught, feet & legs to be part of it,
hands & fingers also, but less legendary than legs & feet
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To play in a garden by nightfall during
childhood is legend
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You can feel it.
It's like this every time at dusk.
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I remember having become legend many
times during my childhood
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Me and my brother became legendary
when we mounted dusty mountain roads
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When we camped, pulled a little earl,
lay close to each other
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and all other boys and girls could have
done like we did, we were legendary
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And later on, one likes to read, because
books always talk about legendary persons
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My mother had been ill for a long time
and was unable to move
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So when she died we had gotten used
to get by without her
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I have said everything about her in
The Making of Americans
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But it's only fiction and what use
is fiction
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That it's fiction is true in itself, and after
all The Making of Americans isn't really fiction
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It's a description on how everybody who
ever lived eats, drinks, loves, sleeps
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talks, walks, activate, forgets, disputes,
loves, despises, works, sits down
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Some descriptions are longer than others.
There's a lengthy one on my mom and dad
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It's not really a description, after all,
what's the use of remembering things?
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And in our time, one doesn't really
occupy oneself much with memories
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My dad couldn't be woken up. My brother entered the room
from the window, cried that he was dead and that was true.
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Our life without dad was the start
of a very agreeable life
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I reflected on every sort of dads.
Dads come and go
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When people haven't had a dad
they all want to have one
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And when they have one, everybody
starts to regret they have one
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Sometimes dukes and barons become
dads and kings and priests too
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In the agreeable 18th Century everybody
get fed up with always having a dad
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And little by little the capitalists and the synclicalists
too become dads and then the communists get into it
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Maybe the 21st Century will be likable like
the 18th where people forgot to be a dad
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That's how my childhood was. The 19th Century didn't end
easily, like centuries never do. It's hard to kill a century
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It's like the old jokes about mothers-in-law
and centuries become as annoying as them
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The 19th Century had no logic. It had
hopes, aspirations, discoveries, but no logic
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I really love logic
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That's why I have made my contribution
to killing the 19th Century
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Like a gangster armed with
a machine gun
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Gertrude Stein enters Radcliffe College
where she leaves youth and solitude
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There she takes pleasure in seeing all kinds of people ancl
a profound impression is left-t on her by William James
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Keep your freedom of spirit,
he often said
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When a student said "What I tell you is
true", he replied, "Yes, it's mostly true"
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Gertrude Stein had been to the opera
every night for a week
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It was the exams for James' course. She
couldn't write anything on the paper
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"Dear Professor James, I feel incapable of
an exam in philosophy today", she wrote
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The next clay she got a card saying: "Dear Miss Stein, I
understand your state of mind, which I often share myself"
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And on the top he had put the note, the
highest any student had gotten on the course
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Gertrude Stein followed medical lectures
in Baltimore
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The last years she started to get
really bored
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A professor told her that he wouldn't give
her the note needed for her diploma
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He told her, "Miss, all you have to do is
follow the lectures this summer"
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Not at all, she replied. You have no idea
how thankful I am
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You are making it impossible for me to
practice medicine, which bored me stiff
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That was the end of Gertrude Stein's
medical studies
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Her brother had settled in Paris. She joined
him and started to write
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She wrote a novel
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Her apartment in 27 rue Fleurus had two
floors, four rooms, a kitchen and a big studio
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That's where I met her. I moved into rue
Fleurus and our Paris adventure started
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Gertrude Stein bought a painting from
a young Spaniard called Picasso one day
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How that happened, none of them
could remember
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The first time Picasso came to dinner and
the first time Stein posed for a painting
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they could remember. The rest had
been forgotten
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She wrote a negro story, Melanctha
Herbert, second of the Three Lives stories
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Gertrude Stein went to Montmartre to pose
for Picasso and went back each day
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by foot, meditating and forming phrases.
Three Lives had been finished
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Gertrude Stein asked her sister-in-law to
read it. She did and was very moved
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This delighted Gertrude Stein, who didn't
think that anybody could take an interest
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At the time, she didn't ask people what
they thought, only if they wanted to read
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Now she thought: If they agree to read,
they'll end up liking it
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She needed am editor. After some research
she ended up printing it herself
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Somebody told her about a publisher in
New York who published historical works
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Three Lives was printed in USA and copies
were sent to France for correction
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One day a young American presented him-
self and said he wanted to see Miss Stein
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The director of Grafton Press wants to
know if your knowledge of English is
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He asked a bit embarrassed.
I'm American, Stein said with indignation.
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You don't think I have gotten a proper
education, she asked, laughing
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I will write to your director and tell him
that every word was written consciously
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Every word was meant to be like this
and all I ask from him is to print it
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I will take the full responsabilty
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When the book had gotten much attention
from critics, the editor wrote a frank letter
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saying that he had been surprised by the favorable
reviews, but that he has proud of having printed the book
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The reception was overwhelming, because
the author was completely unknown
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The autumn exhibition was a step in official
recognition of the outlaws of the independent salon
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There were many beautiful pictures, ancl a very good one
by someone called Matisse, which wasn't really beautiful
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It was a portrait of a woman with a fan. It
was very strange in its colour and its anatomy
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It pleased Gertrude Stein, who
bought it
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She was upset to see so many people
making fun of it
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She couldn't grasp why she found it so natural,
while other found it so natural to find it absurd
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like she later couldn't understand why her writings,
who seemed so clear, caused anger and mockery
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She often said: My writing is clear as mud, but mud
settles and clear streams run on and disappear
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Now I want to talk about the pictures that
were in Gertrude Stein's house
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There were plenty of Renoir, Cezanne, two
Gauguins, a Monticelli, some Manguins
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two Vallottons, a Toulouse-Lautrec, a Daumier,
a small Delacroix and a moderate sized Greco
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enormous Picassos, two rows of Matisses, a big portrait
of a woman by Cezanne and some very little Cezannes
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People were coming to see the paintings
all the time and it started to get intolerable
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That was the reason why Gertrude Stein
started to write at night time
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She had started The Making of Americans
and was fighting words and phrases
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Especially the phrases. It began with an old daily
theme that she had written when at Radcliffe
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"Once an angry man dragged his father
along the ground to his own orchard
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'Stop' cried the old man at last. 'Stop'
I did not drag my father beyond this tree"
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It was to be the story of a family but it was getting to be a history
of all living beings, all who ever were or are or could be living
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lt was at this time that she got the habit that lasted to the
war, which breaks a lot of habits, to work from 11 pm to daybreak
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She tried to finish before the sun rose and the birds started to
sing, because from then on it wasn't comfortable to go to sleep
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At that time there were a lot of birds in
the trees, but there are less now
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But at that time, the morning and the birds
often caught her in the middle of her work
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So she went out. And she tried to get
accustomed to the sun and the birds
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before she went to bed. Sunrises are very good, she said,
if you approach them softly through the end of the night
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But if you have to face them suddenly in
the middle of the morning, they are awful
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Her style slowly started to change. Before she was interested
in the interior of persons, their character ancl inner life
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Now she wanted to express the rhythm
of the visible world
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It was a slow and painful transformation, and she went
through many different experiences in order to get there
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She looked, she listened and
she described
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I have always been haunted by the problem of the
relation of the exterior being with the interior being
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A question that occupies her in painting is the difficulty of
representing the human that leads the artist to paint still-lifes
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Because, after all, the human life can't
be rendered in painting
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She tried in various ways to describe, to
invent words, but she soon gave up
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She was working in English and would have
to solve her problems inside the language
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The idea of making up words
shocked her
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She hated the abnormal. To her, the simplicity
of the normal was more interesting and complex
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She stood by her task, describing objects
and rooms filled with objects
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and with this she made the book
Tender Buttons
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However she said that it is the whole of
that which concerns men and women
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which is interesting, and that's why she
never stopped to do her series of portraits
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This is how she started to write
these portraits
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I started to read and first I thought that
she was kidding me
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and protested. Then I read the rest of
the page and was completely seduced
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In 1914, war broke out. For years already
Picasso's paintings had been showing
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the structure of Spanish villages with
houses fusing with the landscape
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For him this was always the principle of
the camouflage of war
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In the first year of war, Picasso, Stein and
I were walking down boulevard Raspail
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a cold winter evening. There is nothing
colder than bd Raspail a cold winter evening
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All of a sudden down the street came
some big cannon
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the first one any of us had seen
painted, that is camouflaged
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Pablo stopped. He was spellbound.
We did this, he said. He was right
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The order of this war wasn't at all
like the preceding ones
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There wasn't a figure in center surrounded by other
figures, but a composition that had nor start nor finish
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A composition where one corner was
as important as the other
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In a word: Cubism
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We had seen villages and houses
destroyed, but this was different
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I remember hearing a nurse once say and the only thing she
did say of the front was: It's an absorbing landscape
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It was humid and dark with some living
creatures scattered here and there
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Gertrude Stein once said: A war is never
fatal, but it is always lost
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Before the war, Picasso, Apollinaire,Matisse
Derain and Braque spent their clay together
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Picasso looked like an Apollon followed
by four enormous grendiers
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Derain & Braque were huge, Matisse wasn't
small. Apollinaire was big and robust
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Poor Guillaume. He had been injured during
the war. A bit of his cranium was blown off
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Picasso told me Guillaume died the day
of Armistice, and that he watched over him
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It was hot, the windows were open ancl the crowd outside
was yelling "Death to Guillaume" (the German emperor)
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And since one had always called him Apollinaire,
Guillaume was deeply hurt even while in agony
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The death of Guillaume changed the
life if all his friends
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It was just after the war, blood was every-
where and everybody went their own way
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Guillaume had the gift of grouping people.
Now friendships were dissolving
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Everybody was sad and shaken. The
whole universe seemed shaken up.
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The whole universe seemed sad.
Guillaume Apollinaire was dead.
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The old life had ended
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An old woman in the village said to Stein: The people
who laughed before the war don't laugh any more
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She didn't know if it was because they didn't know
how to laugh anymore or because they wouldn't laugh
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Maybe people will laugh again if a
whole generation won't hear of the war
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But maybe not, she said. Maybe we'll
never laugh like that again
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The first years after the war Gertrude Stein worked a lot, but not
like before the war. Not every night, but at any time of clay
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At this time she worked with great care
slowly and very concentrated
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We observed that she was very
preoccupied
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Gertrude Stein has a deep love of what
the French call "le metier"
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Everybody should have only one metier like
everybody should have only one language
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Her job was to write and her language
was English
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Gertrude Stein has always been dominated
by the spirit of exactitude
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She knows that the beauty resulting from emotion
must never be taken to be the cause of emotion
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Prose and poetry should always be the exact
reproduction of an interior or exterior reality
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She says poetry is essentially a vocabulary
just as prose is essentially not
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And what is this vocabulary on which
poetry is completely based?
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It's a vocabulary entirely based on
the noun
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as prose is essentially and determinately
and vigorously not based on the noun
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Poetry is concerned with using with abusing, with losing with wanting
with denying with avoiding with adoring with replacing the noun
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It is doing that always doing that,
doing that doing nothing but that
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When she said "A rose is a rose is
a rose is a rose"
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She made poetry
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What did she do? She really caressed
a noun and she spoke to it
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Some day somebody asked her why she
wrote "A rose is a rose is a rose is a rose"
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She answered that in that verse, for the first time in
a century in English poetry, the rose was really recl
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She understands very well the
mechanisms of creation
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That's why her opinions are so
valuable to her friends
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I often hear Picasso say, after she has
made a remark about one of his paintings
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and illustrating it in talking about what
she herself wants to do
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"Tell me". They sit clown knee to knee and
talk about clogs, death, misfortune
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Since Picasso is Spanish, he finds life
painful. Gertrude Stein often tells me:
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Pablo just convinced me that I am
as unhappy as he is
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"Are you unhappy?" I ask. "N0" she laughs,
"no, I don't think that I'm unhappy"
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Ezra Pound dined at our place. Stein
liked him but didn't find him very amusing
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She said that he was a good town orator.
Very good if you were local, otherwise not
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Ezra talked a lot about T. S. Eliot.
Gertrude wasn't too keen on meeting him
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but everybody said that she should, and
she finished by vaguely consenting
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One day the door bell rang
and Eliot entered
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He and Gertrude Stein had a formal
conversation, mostly on infinitives
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Finally Eliot rose and said that if he printed anything of Stein's
in the Criterion it would have to be her very latest thing
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He left and Gertrude Stein said that
we were no longer obliged to visit him
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She started writing a portrait of T. S. Eliot
and called it the fifteenth of November,
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that being this day and so there could be
no doubt but that it was her latest thing
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It was all about wool is wool and
silk is silk
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or wool is woolen and
silk is silken
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She sent it to T. S. Eliot who naturally
didn't publish it
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We were supposed to go to Hollywood
to see Charlie Chaplin. And we went there
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Gertrude Stein liked Charlie Chaplin
a lot
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They talked about cinema.
He told her something
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He said that in silent film you could do
things that you couldn't do on stage
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You could change the rhythm, but with an
accompanying voice you couldn't anymore
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You were bound to the rhythm that
was given by the voice
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Gertrude Stein talked about her opera, Four Saints
In Three acts, and what she had wanted to do
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She had wanted to do a piece where
nothing happened
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She had done it and it was interesting.
He said yes, he understood that
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She said that films would be like news-
papers, pure habit with nothing interesting
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One only asks of an artist to be interesting
and he's only that if nothing happens
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If something happens it's just like
everything else
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And the sure thing was that what's
interesting is when nothing happens
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Chaplin wanted the sense of movement to
be his invention, Stein claimed the non-event
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Both loved to talk, and had to stop them- selves
in order to let the other person have the word
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After dinner, people gathered around Stein,
asking how she had gotten such publicity
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Because of my small audience, she said.
With a big audience you get no way
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Great publicity comes from real poetry, and
real poetry only has a small audience
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Not a big audience, but it is really interes-
ting and causes thus a great publicity
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This seemed to preoccupy them, as they
wanted both an audience and big publicity
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Thet asked themselves how an author
like Gertrude Stein could become popular
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It's easy! People are writing comprehen-
sible things all the time and one is bored
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Bored because one feels one understands.
One starts to like the incomprehensible
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Stein said: "The great reception I get is
not caused by my comprehensible books
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but the incomprehensible ones
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Many people came to Gertrude Stein
to ask her to write her autobiography
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but she always said:
"Impossible"
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She started to talk me into writing
MY autobiography. "Think of it" she said
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"think of the money". And she started to
make up titles like "My Life With The Great"
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"My Twenty-five Years With Gertrude Stein"
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Then she started to get serious and say:
"Really, you must write the autobiography"
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I am a pretty good housekeeper & a pretty
good gardener & a pretty good secretary
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& a pretty good editor & a pretty good vet for dogs & I
found it difficult to add being a pretty good author
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Stein said, it does not look to me as if you
were ever going to write that autobiography
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You know what I'm going to do. I am going
to write it as simply as Defoe did
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the autobiography of Robinson Crusoe.
And she has and this is it
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In the summer I live on the French country-
side in a village with about 2O families
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I know them all. And I know their oxen,
their cows, their clogs, who know me back
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Me, my cars and my dogs
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We were there in september 1939 when
France declared war on Germany
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I was very afraid
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I was so sure that there would
be no war
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And here it came
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I started to make a book for children, and only allowed myself
to think about the stories that would be included there
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I walked during daytime composing stories.
I walked in the evening composing stories
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I went to sleep composing stories
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And I was quite successful at distracting
my mind from the realities of war
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But when Alice Toklas said of a house
by the road: "What a lovely house"
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I said "I won't look at it. All that will
be destroyed"
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I had predicted that when I had cut to the
end of the garden, the war would be over
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Today all the boxwood is cut
and war isn't over
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How can a strong nation like Germany be
afraid of a handful of Jews?
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No doubt they're scared because
hatred is fear
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And after all, what can they do?
What can they do to them?
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Since this time all is so alike that it's
different. And everything is just different
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The 21st Century will no doubt be a
difficult and troubled time
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Faith in progress and peace
will cease to exist
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Everybody knows, but
nobody says it
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Because nobody has confidence
in anybody else anymore
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And since nobody has faith in the
possibility of being peaceful and happy
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Maybe people will realize what
the French know so well
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The it's better to be vanquished and then
win than to win and be vanquished
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But everybody will also be absorbed by
the daily occupations
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So, I'm an American who's lived
half her life in France. Not the half
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that made me, but the half
where I have done what I have done
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I have done things, written real poems,
real plays, real phrases
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and real paragraphs, but I have
never said things in a simple manner
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But I have wanted, I should
have had just that
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When I have written a story, I have
written it as story
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And I have found that there is comfort in novels,
because they present things as they could have happened
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In other word by remembering something.
Everybody can remember
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And if one can do it,
then why do it?
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So I wanted to tell what I knew
the way I knew it
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and not the way I
remembered it
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I have considered the words to a point
where I knew their weight and volume
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I placed them among other words and
I started to make portraits of people
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At the start I did the same thing
that film does
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I did a succession of affirmations
about the person
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till I had a created a whole
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I didn't think in terms of film. I had
never been to the cinema at the time
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But one belongs to one's time, and our
time is no doubt the time of cinema
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And one must express what the world
one lives in is doing
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In the cinema two images are
never alike
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Each one is a little different from the
one preceeding
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Each time I said that the person I was
portraying was such and such
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The thing I was referring to was a little
different from the preceding one
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And this way I elaborated little by
little a portrait. And I said
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a great number of times a person
was such a thing
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and each time there was a difference that allowed
the portrait to progress and exist in the present
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I had discovered what was fundamentally
interesting in the interior of a person
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and I should find it not from what
they said or did
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but from the intensity of movement
inside him or her
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What bothers me is telling: saying
something without saying more
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than the thing being told.
That's what telling something is
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After all, human beings take an
interest in two things
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Reality and how to tell it
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I have always wanted what I write
to be banal and simple
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And I ask myself if I have succeeded
in doing that
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If something isn't sufficiently banal
and simple, it's nothing at all
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That's what's pleased me about being surrounded
by people not speaking English all these years
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Most of them are unable to read
a word of my writings
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I like to live here, with plenty of people and
alone with the English language and myself
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A chapter of Americans starts like this:
I have written for myself and for strangers
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In New York they filmed me for the news
and invited me to come watch the movie
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I didn't like seeing myself
moving and talking like that
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I got a strange feeling, and I didn't
like that feeling
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It's strange to be yourself, because
you're never yourself in your own eyes
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Except in the memories that you have, but
of course you don't believe in those
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That's the problem with autobiography:
You don't believe in it yourself
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Why should you believe in it?
You know very well that's not you
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It couldn't be you because you couldn't
have exact memories
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and if you had exact memories, that sounds
false, false because it's not exact
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Obviously, you are never yourself
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I have thought a lot about how one
is one self for one self
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About the fact that you are present to
yourself on the inside all the time
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But a minute earlier you could only have a memory
of yourself and not the sense of what you were
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And I started to think that to the degree
that you are what you think you are
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you don't have the sense of time
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You only have the sensation of time when
you remember what you were
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And that's when I said: What good
is it to be a little girl
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when you are going to be a woman?
What good is it for?
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People are grown ups in their own eyes,
they never consider themselves a little child
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or a very old adult
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In Gulliver's Travels is described
people who never die
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And this seems to prove that
death is necessary
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Because those who don't die
don't live either
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And I thought that in order not to die
there was no need to be old
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Why not stay young and immortal? Why
not go on forever if you feel like it?
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The time of early childhood certainly
go very slow
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And if it went infinitely slow, why not
live indefinitely?
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Later I told myself that if
nobody died
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Earth would be completely
filled up
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And I wouldn't have existed. I couldn't
have tried to be something else
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So why not die?
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When I was eight, I was shocked to learn that there was nothing
about the afterlife or eternity in the ancient testament
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I checked the text and there
was nothing there
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There was a God and he spoke, but
there was nothing about eternity
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