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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:04,000 --> 00:00:06,967 Woman: WELL, DON'T WAIT. I'LL GROW UP, AND I'LL NEVER GO. 2 00:00:06,967 --> 00:00:09,567 YOU HAVE TO MAKE DECISIONS AND STICK TO THEM. 3 00:00:09,567 --> 00:00:10,933 IF YOU DON'T, YOU NEVER GET ANYPLACE. 4 00:00:10,933 --> 00:00:13,400 Wendy: OH, MY GOSH, GRETCHEN. HE IS SO DREAMY. 5 00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:15,000 Gretchen: SO DREAMY. 6 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:17,033 I WANT TO GO ON A DATE WITH HIM SO BAD. 7 00:00:17,033 --> 00:00:18,933 WELL, YOU KNOW WHAT? 8 00:00:18,933 --> 00:00:21,133 I BET HE'S A GREAT LAY. 9 00:00:21,133 --> 00:00:23,033 [ GIGGLES ] 10 00:00:23,033 --> 00:00:24,333 HOW WOULD YOU KNOW? 11 00:00:24,333 --> 00:00:25,767 HOW WOULD I KNOW? 12 00:00:25,767 --> 00:00:27,733 IT'S NOT FOR YOUR LITTLE EARS. 13 00:00:27,733 --> 00:00:29,133 [ GIGGLES ] 14 00:00:29,133 --> 00:00:32,467 Woman: I ALWAYS THOUGHT GRETCHEN FRITZ WAS LUCKY. 15 00:00:32,467 --> 00:00:35,233 SHE WAS BEAUTIFUL, HER PARENTS HAD MONEY, 16 00:00:35,233 --> 00:00:38,267 AND EVEN HER KID SISTER WAS SWEET. 17 00:00:38,267 --> 00:00:39,867 Young woman: HEY, I HEARD THERE'S ANOTHER PARTY TONIGHT. 18 00:00:39,867 --> 00:00:41,333 YOU COMING? 19 00:00:43,700 --> 00:00:45,667 SO IF I WAS KIND OF SNOTTY AROUND HER, 20 00:00:45,667 --> 00:00:47,533 I GUESS IT'S BECAUSE I WAS JEALOUS. 21 00:00:47,533 --> 00:00:49,233 MAYBE WE ALL WERE. 22 00:00:49,233 --> 00:00:50,700 YEAH, I'M COMING. 23 00:00:50,700 --> 00:00:52,667 WE'RE GOING. 24 00:00:56,833 --> 00:01:00,467 READY TO GO TO A PARTY? 25 00:01:00,467 --> 00:01:04,267 BUT I FEEL AWFUL THINKING ABOUT IT NOW... 26 00:01:04,267 --> 00:01:06,933 [ ENGINE TURNS OVER ] 27 00:01:06,933 --> 00:01:09,967 ...BECAUSE THAT NIGHT, AT THE CACTUS DRIVE-IN, 28 00:01:09,967 --> 00:01:13,233 WHEN GRETCHEN DROVE OFF INTO THE DARK, THAT WAS IT. 29 00:01:13,233 --> 00:01:16,267 NONE OF US EVER SAW THE FRITZ SISTERS ALIVE AGAIN. 30 00:01:18,933 --> 00:01:21,933 -- Captions by VITAC -- www.vitac.com 31 00:01:21,933 --> 00:01:24,967 CAPTIONS PAID FOR BY DISCOVERY COMMUNICATIONS 32 00:01:33,067 --> 00:01:35,833 TUCSON, ARIZONA, IN 1965, 33 00:01:35,833 --> 00:01:37,867 WAS A STRANGE COMBINATION OF A BOOMTOWN, 34 00:01:37,867 --> 00:01:41,733 THE OLD WILD WEST, AND NOWHERESVILLE. 35 00:01:41,733 --> 00:01:45,267 Schafer: IT'S A BEAUTIFUL, BEAUTIFUL SPOT BETWEEN TWO MOUNTAINS, 36 00:01:45,267 --> 00:01:47,833 BUT IT IS STARK. 37 00:01:50,067 --> 00:01:52,300 Marsh: LIKE A LOT OF OTHER PARTS OF THE COUNTRY, 38 00:01:52,300 --> 00:01:54,267 TUCSON AND THE AREA HAD 39 00:01:54,267 --> 00:01:56,133 THIS BOOMING POPULATION OF ADOLESCENTS. 40 00:01:56,133 --> 00:01:58,667 A REALLY BIG NUMBER OF KIDS WOULD CONGREGATE 41 00:01:58,667 --> 00:02:00,300 WITH ALMOST NO SUPERVISION. 42 00:02:02,333 --> 00:02:04,500 THE PLACE TO GO WITHOUT PARENTS AND TEACHERS 43 00:02:04,500 --> 00:02:06,400 BREATHING DOWN YOUR NECK WAS SPEEDWAY. 44 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:08,833 IT WAS JUST A BUNCH OF GAS STATIONS, 45 00:02:08,833 --> 00:02:11,133 CAR WASHES, BOWLING ALLEYS, LIKE THAT. 46 00:02:16,533 --> 00:02:17,833 BUT IT WAS BETTER 47 00:02:17,833 --> 00:02:19,200 THAN BEING BORED OUT OF YOUR SKULL AT HOME. 48 00:02:23,100 --> 00:02:25,200 I BECAME A COP IN 1958, 49 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:26,533 WITH THE TUCSON POLICE DEPARTMENT, 50 00:02:26,533 --> 00:02:32,200 AND BY 1965, THE CULTURE HAD CHANGED SUBSTANTIALLY. 51 00:02:33,933 --> 00:02:35,467 THESE TEENS WERE GOING NUTS. 52 00:02:39,867 --> 00:02:42,100 Young woman: [ Laughing ] OH, MY GOD, GUYS! 53 00:02:42,100 --> 00:02:43,767 Young man: OH, NOT IN MY BACKSEAT! 54 00:02:43,767 --> 00:02:46,867 BOOZE, STAYING OUT ALL NIGHT, AND SEX. 55 00:02:46,867 --> 00:02:48,567 [ LAUGHTER ] 56 00:02:48,567 --> 00:02:50,300 THERE WASN'T REALLY ANYTHING ELSE TO DO. 57 00:02:53,833 --> 00:02:56,800 OUT OF MY FACE! 58 00:02:56,800 --> 00:02:59,133 Marsh: ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE REALLY KNOW ABOUT ADOLESCENTS 59 00:02:59,133 --> 00:03:02,133 IS HOW MUCH MORE PRONE THEY ARE TO ENGAGING IN BAD BEHAVIOR 60 00:03:02,133 --> 00:03:03,300 WHEN THEY ARE AROUND EACH OTHER. 61 00:03:07,433 --> 00:03:10,400 Detective: WAS THERE ANYTHING UNUSUAL 62 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:12,300 GOING ON LATELY HERE AT HOME? 63 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:17,167 WERE THE GIRLS FIGHTING? 64 00:03:18,467 --> 00:03:20,500 ANY OTHER PROBLEMS? NO. 65 00:03:20,500 --> 00:03:24,600 NO, UH, WE'D JUST GOTTEN BACK FORM CALIFORNIA THIS WEEK. 66 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:28,233 EVERYTHING SEEMED NORMAL, AND THEN... 67 00:03:28,233 --> 00:03:31,067 WE HAD AN EVENT TO ATTEND LAST NIGHT, 68 00:03:31,067 --> 00:03:32,900 AND THE GIRLS WANTED TO GO TO A MOVIE. 69 00:03:32,900 --> 00:03:36,200 THE LAST TIME THE FRITZES SAW THEIR DAUGHTERS 70 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:37,733 WAS 7:30 THE NIGHT BEFORE, 71 00:03:37,733 --> 00:03:40,300 AND THEY WERE GOING TO THE CACTUS DRIVE-IN. 72 00:03:40,300 --> 00:03:43,467 IF IT WAS -- IF IT WAS JUST GRETCHEN, 73 00:03:43,467 --> 00:03:45,400 WE WOULDN'T BE WORRIED. 74 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:47,367 BUT WENDY DOES NOT BEHAVE LIKE THIS. 75 00:03:47,367 --> 00:03:50,133 WHY DO YOU SAY THAT, "JUST GRETCHEN"? 76 00:03:57,867 --> 00:03:59,867 HI, THERE. WHAT'S UP? 77 00:03:59,867 --> 00:04:01,667 IS THAT CIGARETTE FOR ME? 78 00:04:01,667 --> 00:04:03,600 BUT GRETCHEN WASN'T JUST PRETTY AND RICH. 79 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:05,067 SHE HAD AN EDGE. 80 00:04:05,067 --> 00:04:08,867 SHE WAS ALWAYS LOOKING FOR SOME EXCITEMENT, A THRILL. 81 00:04:08,867 --> 00:04:11,733 THEY HAD HAD PROBLEMS WITH GRETCHEN BEFORE, 82 00:04:11,733 --> 00:04:15,467 SNEAKING OUT AND HAVING BOYS SNEAK IN. 83 00:04:17,067 --> 00:04:18,967 HEY. Young man: HEY. HOW'S IT GOING? 84 00:04:18,967 --> 00:04:20,167 GOOD. 85 00:04:20,167 --> 00:04:23,133 SEE THAT TALL GUY OVER THERE? 86 00:04:23,133 --> 00:04:25,467 WELL, HE WAS TELLING ME 87 00:04:25,467 --> 00:04:27,300 THAT HE COULD BEAT THE TWO OF YOU UP. 88 00:04:28,533 --> 00:04:32,633 Dupnik: GRETCHEN HAD ALWAYS BEEN A PROBLEM. 89 00:04:32,633 --> 00:04:36,500 SHE LIKED TO BE THE FOCUS OF ATTENTION. 90 00:04:36,500 --> 00:04:39,467 GET OFF, FELLAS! HEY! 91 00:04:39,467 --> 00:04:41,667 McNamara: THE POLICE HAD A BIT OF A HISTORY WITH GRETCHEN 92 00:04:41,667 --> 00:04:44,133 FROM SOME JUVENILE INCIDENTS. 93 00:04:44,133 --> 00:04:47,067 GRETCHEN WANTED TO DO WHAT GRETCHEN WANTED TO DO. 94 00:04:47,067 --> 00:04:52,200 Dupnik: BUT THEY WERE TWO TOTALLY DIFFERENT CHILDREN. 95 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:55,633 WENDY, THE YOUNGER ONE, WAS A MODEL CHILD 96 00:04:55,633 --> 00:04:57,700 AND WOULD NEVER STAY OUT ALL NIGHT. 97 00:04:57,700 --> 00:04:59,800 SO IF ANY OF US HAD TO GUESS 98 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:02,567 HOW THE FRITZ GIRLS GOT INTO TROUBLE, 99 00:05:02,567 --> 00:05:05,800 IT WAS PROBABLY SOMETHING TO DO WITH GRETCHEN. 100 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:10,733 DO YOU REMEMBER SEEING EITHER OF THESE TWO GIRLS? 101 00:05:10,733 --> 00:05:12,200 SURE, YEAH. 102 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:15,967 THE POLICE WENT TO THAT DRIVE-IN. 103 00:05:15,967 --> 00:05:18,067 McNamara: IT WAS CONFIRMED THAT THEY HAD BEEN THERE, 104 00:05:18,067 --> 00:05:19,133 HAD SEEN THE MOVIE. 105 00:05:19,133 --> 00:05:20,667 DID YOU SEE WHO SHE LEFT WITH? 106 00:05:20,667 --> 00:05:23,633 NO, NOT AT ALL. 107 00:05:23,633 --> 00:05:26,867 McNamara: SO THEY PUT AN APB ON GRETCHEN'S CAR. 108 00:05:26,867 --> 00:05:29,400 SHE HAD A BRAND-NEW PONTIAC, 109 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:32,400 AND IF SHE DIDN'T WANT TO GO TO SCHOOL THIS WEEK, 110 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:33,900 SHE DIDN'T GO THIS WEEK. 111 00:05:33,900 --> 00:05:36,533 GRETCHEN'S NEW PONTIAC 112 00:05:36,533 --> 00:05:39,567 MEANT SHE COULD JUST TAKE OFF ON HER OWN, 113 00:05:39,567 --> 00:05:41,667 SO THE POLICE PROBABLY THOUGHT 114 00:05:41,667 --> 00:05:44,867 IF YOU FOUND GRETCHEN'S CAR, YOU'D FIND HER. 115 00:05:44,867 --> 00:05:46,800 [ SIGHS ] 116 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:49,733 YOU ARE AWARE IT'S NOT UNUSUAL 117 00:05:49,733 --> 00:05:52,433 FOR GIRLS AT THIS AGE TO RUN AWAY? 118 00:05:56,267 --> 00:05:59,333 IN 1965, 119 00:05:59,333 --> 00:06:02,600 TEENAGERS OUTNUMBERED GROWN-UPS JUST ABOUT EVERYWHERE. 120 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:03,933 IT WAS BOUND TO HAPPEN. 121 00:06:03,933 --> 00:06:06,067 ALL THOSE BABIES BORN RIGHT AFTER WORLD WAR II 122 00:06:06,067 --> 00:06:08,200 HAD TO GROW UP SOMEDAY. 123 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:11,833 ABOUT A YEAR BEFORE THE FRITZ GIRLS DISAPPEARED... 124 00:06:11,833 --> 00:06:15,067 SHE'S A BEAUTIFUL GIRL. 125 00:06:22,533 --> 00:06:26,733 ...THERE WAS ANOTHER GIRL WHO WAS 15, 126 00:06:26,733 --> 00:06:30,800 AND HER NAME WAS ALLEEN ROWE. 127 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:32,733 ALLEEN ROWE DISAPPEARED 128 00:06:32,733 --> 00:06:35,467 WHILE THE MOTHER WAS AT WORK, AT NIGHT. 129 00:06:35,467 --> 00:06:37,600 SO POLICE GOT REPORTS ALL THE TIME 130 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:39,400 ABOUT TEENS WHO RAN AWAY, 131 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:42,700 AND MOST OF THE TIME, THEY CAME BACK AGAIN JUST FINE. 132 00:06:42,700 --> 00:06:45,067 SHE'S NOT A RUNAWAY. 133 00:06:45,067 --> 00:06:46,800 SHE'S MISSING. 134 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:48,900 MOST OF THE TIME. 135 00:06:51,133 --> 00:06:54,800 AND IT WOULD HAVE BEEN THE FRITZ'S WORST NIGHTMARE 136 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:58,133 TO HAVE THEIR DAUGHTERS STAY LOST, LIKE ALLEEN. 137 00:06:58,133 --> 00:07:00,467 [ THUNDER CRASHES ] 138 00:07:08,167 --> 00:07:11,567 THE FRITZ FAMILY BECAME SO FRUSTRATED 139 00:07:11,567 --> 00:07:14,500 WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT'S INABILITY TO FIND THE KIDS 140 00:07:14,500 --> 00:07:17,800 THAT THEY WENT OUT AND HIRED A PRIVATE DETECTIVE. 141 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:20,200 [ THUNDER RUMBLES ] 142 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:23,267 McNamara: FOUR DAYS AFTER THE GIRLS GO MISSING, 143 00:07:23,267 --> 00:07:25,233 HEILIG FINDS GRETCHEN'S PONTIAC 144 00:07:25,233 --> 00:07:27,767 IN THE PARKING LOT OF THE FLAMINGO HOTEL, 145 00:07:27,767 --> 00:07:29,900 WHICH IS RIGHT NEAR THE SPEEDWAY. 146 00:07:29,900 --> 00:07:32,533 [ TELEPHONE RINGS ] 147 00:07:32,533 --> 00:07:35,367 SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT. 148 00:07:35,367 --> 00:07:38,367 DETECTIVE, YOU GOT TO COME SEE THIS. 149 00:07:38,367 --> 00:07:40,833 McNamara: SO HEILIG CALLS IN THE POLICE. 150 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:46,867 AND THEY EXAMINE THE CAR. 151 00:07:48,533 --> 00:07:50,733 GRETCHEN'S PURSE IS STILL IN THERE. 152 00:07:50,733 --> 00:07:53,100 THERE'S A $20 BILL IN THERE. 153 00:07:53,100 --> 00:07:55,733 WHEN THEY DO A CANVASS, 154 00:07:55,733 --> 00:07:58,333 NO ONE CAN TELL THEM, YOU KNOW, ANYTHING -- 155 00:07:58,333 --> 00:08:00,467 WHO DROPPED IT OFF, WHO DROVE IT THERE. 156 00:08:05,867 --> 00:08:09,433 BUT, EERILY, THE ODOMETER IS DISCONNECTED, 157 00:08:09,433 --> 00:08:12,100 WHICH SUGGESTS THAT MAYBE SOMEONE 158 00:08:12,100 --> 00:08:15,100 WAS TRYING TO MASK MILEAGE ON THE CAR. 159 00:08:15,100 --> 00:08:17,867 WHEN THEY FOUND GRETCHEN'S CAR, 160 00:08:17,867 --> 00:08:21,400 THEY KNEW SHE HADN'T JUST TAKEN OFF ON HER OWN. 161 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:25,533 IT LOOKED LIKE SOMEONE HAD TAKEN HER... 162 00:08:25,533 --> 00:08:28,733 AND WAS TRYING TO COVER THEIR TRACKS. 163 00:08:36,133 --> 00:08:39,600 Woman: THE FRITZ SISTERS HAD VANISHED, 164 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:43,067 LAST SEEN AT THE CACTUS DRIVE-IN IN TUCSON. 165 00:08:45,733 --> 00:08:50,467 THEIR CAR HAD BEEN FOUND IN A MOTEL PARKING LOT... 166 00:08:50,467 --> 00:08:53,300 BUT THERE WAS NO TRACE OF THE GIRLS. 167 00:08:58,667 --> 00:09:01,667 GRETCHEN, THE OLDER ONE, WAS BEAUTIFUL 168 00:09:01,667 --> 00:09:05,433 AND HAD ALWAYS GOTTEN A LOT OF ATTENTION, 169 00:09:05,433 --> 00:09:08,200 SO IT MADE SENSE WHEN THE POLICE GOT WIND 170 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:11,067 OF A BOY THAT COULD HAVE TAKEN HER AWAY... 171 00:09:12,667 --> 00:09:15,333 ...SOMEONE FROM OUT OF STATE. 172 00:09:15,333 --> 00:09:18,533 Dupnik: GRETCHEN WAS BRAGGING ABOUT SOME GUY 173 00:09:18,533 --> 00:09:20,367 THAT SHE GOT INVOLVED WITH OVER IN SAN DIEGO. 174 00:09:22,667 --> 00:09:25,600 BUT SHE HADN'T SAID THE NAME, 175 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:27,167 AND SHE COULD HAVE MET SOMEONE AT THE BEACH, 176 00:09:27,167 --> 00:09:28,633 SHE COULD HAVE MET SOMEONE AT THE HOTEL. 177 00:09:28,633 --> 00:09:32,067 Dupnik: THE SAN DIEGO POLICE DEPARTMENT HAD A PICTURE, 178 00:09:32,067 --> 00:09:33,800 OF COURSE, OF THE FRITZ GIRLS, 179 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:37,700 AND THEY, IN FACT, INTERROGATED DIFFERENT PEOPLE, 180 00:09:37,700 --> 00:09:39,900 BUT THEY WERE NEVER ABLE TO COME UP 181 00:09:39,900 --> 00:09:41,667 WITH ANY SPECIFIC INFORMATION. 182 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:51,467 TO OUR UNDERSTANDING, YOU USED TO DATE GRETCHEN FRITZ. 183 00:09:51,467 --> 00:09:55,067 YES, AT ONE POINT, YEAH, WE WERE KIND OF A THING. 184 00:09:55,067 --> 00:09:57,300 SO THE SEARCH FOR GRETCHEN CAME BACK HOME 185 00:09:57,300 --> 00:09:58,600 TO OUR GROUP IN TUCSON, 186 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:00,833 AND THE COPS WANTED TO TALK TO ANY GUYS 187 00:10:00,833 --> 00:10:03,267 GRETCHEN HAD BEEN INVOLVED WITH AROUND HERE. 188 00:10:03,267 --> 00:10:05,600 Detective: IS THERE ANYTHING YOU COULD TELL US 189 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:07,200 ABOUT GRETCHEN'S WHEREABOUTS? 190 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:09,400 MY GUESS IS THAT SHE RAN AWAY. 191 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:11,300 THAT'S SOMETHING GRETCHEN WOULD DO. 192 00:10:11,300 --> 00:10:13,267 SHE DIDN'T HAVE AN EASY FAMILY LIFE. 193 00:10:15,233 --> 00:10:17,933 Dupnik: CHARLES SCHMID LIVED IN A SMALL HOUSE 194 00:10:17,933 --> 00:10:19,633 NEXT TO HIS PARENTS. 195 00:10:20,767 --> 00:10:22,833 [ INDISTINCT CONVERSATIONS ] 196 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:30,767 Marsh: CHARLIE SCHMID WAS A PRETTY GOOD-LOOKING GUY -- 197 00:10:30,767 --> 00:10:32,467 WELL-BUILT, GOOD ATHLETE. 198 00:10:32,467 --> 00:10:34,133 HE WAS ALSO 23. 199 00:10:34,133 --> 00:10:36,400 Marsh: HE LOVED TO THROW PARTIES. 200 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:39,000 Dupnik: AND EVERYBODY WANTED TO GO TO THOSE PARTIES. 201 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:41,767 Marsh: HE WAS SOMEBODY WHO DREW PEOPLE TO HIM. 202 00:10:41,767 --> 00:10:44,700 Schafer: AND GRETCHEN WAS ONE OF THEM. 203 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:50,333 SMITTY WAS BITCHIN', AS WE USED TO SAY. 204 00:10:50,333 --> 00:10:52,367 WE ALL THOUGHT SO. 205 00:10:52,367 --> 00:10:54,400 WHEN HE LAID EYES ON YOU, 206 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:56,700 IT FELT LIKE YOU WERE THE ONLY GIRL IN THE ROOM. 207 00:10:59,667 --> 00:11:01,733 BUT THE THING WAS, 208 00:11:01,733 --> 00:11:05,167 SMITTY LAID EYES ON A LOT OF GIRLS. 209 00:11:09,167 --> 00:11:11,700 WHEN YOU'RE YOUNG, YOU NEVER BELIEVE 210 00:11:11,700 --> 00:11:14,267 THE GUYS YOU DATE COULD BE DANGEROUS. 211 00:11:14,267 --> 00:11:16,067 [ "HOUSE OF THE RISING SUN" PLAYS ] 212 00:11:19,267 --> 00:11:24,733 * THERE IS A HOUSE IN NEW ORLEANS * 213 00:11:24,733 --> 00:11:29,333 * THEY CALL THE RISING SUN * 214 00:11:29,333 --> 00:11:34,800 * IT'S BEEN THE RUIN OF MANY A POOR BOY * 215 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:39,533 * ME, OH, GOD, FOR ONE * 216 00:11:39,533 --> 00:11:41,300 HE COULD PLAY THE GUITAR AND SING A LITTLE BIT. 217 00:11:41,300 --> 00:11:44,467 Schafer: THE KIDS REALLY LOOKED UP TO HIM. 218 00:11:44,467 --> 00:11:46,133 HE WAS SMART. 219 00:11:46,133 --> 00:11:48,833 HE WAS A MUSICIAN. 220 00:11:48,833 --> 00:11:53,467 AND KIDS WERE SORT OF FREE OVER THERE TO DO WHAT THEY WANT. 221 00:11:56,833 --> 00:11:58,533 SO WHEN GRETCHEN FRITZ WENT MISSING... 222 00:11:58,533 --> 00:12:00,867 THANK YOU. THANK YOU. 223 00:12:00,867 --> 00:12:03,900 ...OF COURSE THE COPS LOOKED AT HER EX-BOYFRIEND. 224 00:12:06,067 --> 00:12:09,867 THIS IS A CHEVY MALIBU. YOU KNOW WHAT'S UNDER THAT? 225 00:12:09,867 --> 00:12:11,867 YEAH. CHECK IT OUT. 226 00:12:11,867 --> 00:12:14,867 BUT THEY FOUND OUT THAT CHARLIE SPENT 227 00:12:14,867 --> 00:12:18,067 MOST OF HIS TIME WORKING ON CARS AND HANGING OUT. 228 00:12:18,067 --> 00:12:21,167 CHARLIE SCHMID HAD NO CRIMINAL HISTORY AT ALL. 229 00:12:21,167 --> 00:12:25,900 CHARLIE SCHMID WAS KIND OF A MODEL CHILD. 230 00:12:34,167 --> 00:12:37,600 WELL, THERE WAS ANOTHER INDIVIDUAL THAT HUNG AROUND 231 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:39,833 WHO WAS EXTREMELY INTERESTING TO THE POLICE. 232 00:12:39,833 --> 00:12:42,933 EVERYONE KNEW RICHIE BRUNS. 233 00:12:42,933 --> 00:12:46,767 HE WAS A CREEP AND A LONER. 234 00:12:46,767 --> 00:12:51,367 AND THE RUMOR WAS HE'D BEEN CAUGHT UP IN A MURDER BEFORE. 235 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:05,967 SO, DO YOU KNOW WHY YOU'RE HERE? 236 00:13:05,967 --> 00:13:08,567 NO, I DON'T. 237 00:13:12,867 --> 00:13:15,867 WHY AM I HERE? 238 00:13:15,867 --> 00:13:18,300 GRETCHEN FRITZ. 239 00:13:22,067 --> 00:13:23,733 I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THAT. 240 00:13:23,733 --> 00:13:24,733 I'M SORRY. 241 00:13:24,733 --> 00:13:27,000 Woman: WHAT WE HEARD WAS 242 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:29,700 THE POLICE DIDN'T HAVE ANY REAL SUSPECTS AT ALL. 243 00:13:29,700 --> 00:13:32,633 BUT GRETCHEN DID HANG AROUND THE SPEEDWAY CROWD, 244 00:13:32,633 --> 00:13:35,067 AND A LOT OF KIDS THERE HAD RECORDS. 245 00:13:35,067 --> 00:13:37,800 RICHIE BRUNS -- HE HAD DONE A LOT OF PETTY CRIMES. 246 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:40,133 HE WAS CHRONICALLY SUSPENDED FROM SCHOOL. 247 00:13:40,133 --> 00:13:42,533 Schafer: AND DIDN'T SEEM TO GIVE A DAMN. 248 00:13:42,533 --> 00:13:46,433 AND HE WAS RUMORED TO HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN A MURDER. 249 00:13:46,433 --> 00:13:49,967 THE STORY WENT THAT A COUPLE YEARS BACK, 250 00:13:49,967 --> 00:13:51,833 RICHIE BRUNS HAD BEEN AT WORK 251 00:13:51,833 --> 00:13:54,733 WHEN HE GOT APPROACHED BY SOME OLDER GUY. 252 00:13:54,733 --> 00:13:56,467 Bruns: YOU MIGHT WANT TO GET YOUR SPARKS 253 00:13:56,467 --> 00:13:57,700 AND YOUR PLUGS FIXED, TOO. 254 00:13:57,700 --> 00:13:59,667 Man: THANK YOU. 255 00:13:59,667 --> 00:14:02,433 Gilmore: SOME OLDER GUY WANTED TO BUY HIM BEER, 256 00:14:02,433 --> 00:14:04,167 AND, OF COURSE, RICHIE, YOU KNOW, 257 00:14:04,167 --> 00:14:05,467 ANYBODY GONNA BUY HIM BEER, 258 00:14:05,467 --> 00:14:07,533 HE'S GONNA SIT AND TALK TO YOU FOR A WHILE. 259 00:14:07,533 --> 00:14:10,200 I DID RUN AWAY ONCE, YOU KNOW. 260 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:12,800 YOU WANT TO RUN AWAY? 261 00:14:17,533 --> 00:14:20,800 HE SHOWED HIM THIS GUN. 262 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:21,967 [ GUN COCKS ] 263 00:14:21,967 --> 00:14:23,967 .38. 264 00:14:23,967 --> 00:14:27,267 AND RICHIE SAID, "OH, MAN, THAT'S SO COOL." 265 00:14:27,267 --> 00:14:30,533 WHY DON'T WE GO ON IN? 266 00:14:30,533 --> 00:14:34,767 AND THE GUY PROPOSITIONED HIM. 267 00:14:34,767 --> 00:14:37,067 AND RICHE DECIDED HE DIDN'T WANT TO BE INVOLVED 268 00:14:37,067 --> 00:14:38,867 WITH THIS GUY ANYMORE, AND HE LEFT. 269 00:14:38,867 --> 00:14:41,067 McNamara: ABOUT A DAY LATER, 270 00:14:41,067 --> 00:14:44,433 THE MAN IS FOUND SHOT DEAD IN A DITCH. 271 00:14:44,433 --> 00:14:45,833 HE SAID HE WANTED TO BUY ME BEER. 272 00:14:45,833 --> 00:14:47,467 I GOT IN HIS CAR. HE'S A QUEER, THOUGH. 273 00:14:47,467 --> 00:14:48,500 I'M NOT HIS FRIEND. 274 00:14:48,500 --> 00:14:50,600 I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THAT. 275 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:52,300 RICHIE'S FINGERPRINTS WERE ON THE GUN. 276 00:14:52,300 --> 00:14:56,167 IT TURNS OUT, SOME GUY IN PHOENIX 277 00:14:56,167 --> 00:14:58,767 ACTUALLY KILLED THE MAN, BUT THAT DIDN'T MATTER. 278 00:14:58,767 --> 00:15:00,833 THIS WAS GRADE-A GOSSIP, 279 00:15:00,833 --> 00:15:04,267 AND STORIES ABOUT RICHIE BRUNS TOOK OFF. 280 00:15:04,267 --> 00:15:06,633 AND AFTER THE FRITZ GIRLS WENT MISSING, 281 00:15:06,633 --> 00:15:10,067 THE POLICE WANTED TO HEAR ABOUT ANYONE WE THOUGHT WAS SHADY... 282 00:15:10,067 --> 00:15:11,800 HOW YOU DOING? 283 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:13,967 ...AND WHETHER THEY'D EVER CROSSED PATHS WITH GRETCHEN. 284 00:15:13,967 --> 00:15:17,067 WE HEARD YOU KNOW SOMETHING ABOUT RICHIE BRUNS. 285 00:15:17,067 --> 00:15:19,133 RICHIE BRUNS IS A CREEP. 286 00:15:19,133 --> 00:15:23,967 RICHIE WAS YOUR CLASSIC OUTSIDER. 287 00:15:23,967 --> 00:15:26,200 NONE OF THE KIDS LIKED HIM. 288 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:30,467 HE DIDN'T CARE ABOUT ANYTHING EXCEPT LOOKING COOL, 289 00:15:30,467 --> 00:15:32,733 BUT HE WAS NOT VERY GOOD AT THAT. 290 00:15:32,733 --> 00:15:34,967 HE SHOWED UP, AND THEY, LIKE, LOOK AT ALL OF US 291 00:15:34,967 --> 00:15:37,033 AND SAY, LIKE -- THEY START... 292 00:15:37,033 --> 00:15:39,033 HEY. SORRY, EXCUSE ME. YEAH. 293 00:15:39,033 --> 00:15:41,700 UM...HEY. 294 00:15:41,700 --> 00:15:43,600 I DON'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT OR ANYTHING, BUT I WAS -- 295 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:47,000 I WAS AT THE, UH, I WAS AT THE SHOP THE OTHER DAY... 296 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:50,067 RICHIE HAD A REALLY DIFFICULT TIME 297 00:15:50,067 --> 00:15:51,700 TRYING TO FIND GIRLS THAT HE COULD DATE. 298 00:15:51,700 --> 00:15:53,400 Schafer: HE THOUGHT THEY WERE SHUNNING HIM. 299 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:54,600 THEY WOULDN'T COME NEAR HIM. 300 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:55,833 THEY WOULDN'T DO ANYTHING WITH HIM. 301 00:15:55,833 --> 00:15:57,433 I THOUGHT IT WOULD LOOK REALLY PRETTY ON YOU. 302 00:15:57,433 --> 00:15:58,567 SEE, IT'S A HEART... FOR YOU. 303 00:15:58,567 --> 00:16:00,133 UH, WHY DON'T WE GRAB A COKE OR SOMETHING? 304 00:16:00,133 --> 00:16:01,333 YEAH. 305 00:16:01,333 --> 00:16:02,867 HANG ON A MINUTE. 306 00:16:02,867 --> 00:16:05,967 Marsh: RICHIE WAS OBSESSIVE WITH GIRLS. 307 00:16:05,967 --> 00:16:08,100 HE WOULD TURN PEOPLE OFF 308 00:16:08,100 --> 00:16:10,400 BY HIS OVERLY INTENSE WAY OF APPROACHING THEM. 309 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:12,967 KATHY, I SPENT A LOT OF MONEY -- DON'T TOUCH ME, MAN. 310 00:16:12,967 --> 00:16:14,233 DON'T TOUCH ME, ALL RIGHT? 311 00:16:14,233 --> 00:16:17,400 HE WOULD, YOU KNOW, NOT TAKE NO FOR AN ANSWER, 312 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:20,333 JUST APPEAR AT THE HOUSE, FOLLOW THEM AROUND, 313 00:16:20,333 --> 00:16:23,800 INCLUDING STALKING ONE OF HIS EX-GIRLFRIENDS. 314 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:26,200 Gilmore: TO THE POINT WHERE THE FATHER 315 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:28,567 CALLED THE POLICE A COUPLE TIMES. 316 00:16:34,300 --> 00:16:37,633 [ LIGHTER CLICKS ] 317 00:16:37,633 --> 00:16:39,467 PLEASURE MEETING YOU. YOU, TOO. 318 00:16:39,467 --> 00:16:41,433 SEE YOU LATER. 319 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:45,367 NEED A LIGHT? 320 00:16:46,733 --> 00:16:48,700 YEAH. 321 00:16:54,167 --> 00:16:55,467 WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT KATHY? 322 00:16:55,467 --> 00:16:56,967 PRETTY CUTE. 323 00:16:56,967 --> 00:16:58,433 I DON'T KNOW. 324 00:16:58,433 --> 00:17:02,200 BUT CHARLIE SCHMID WAS WILLING TO GIVE RICHIE A CHANCE, 325 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:06,033 AND EVERYONE WANTED TO GET TO HANG OUT WITH SMITTY. 326 00:17:06,033 --> 00:17:07,267 YOU WANT A BEER? 327 00:17:07,267 --> 00:17:09,200 HELL, YEAH, I'LL TAKE A BEER. 328 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:11,033 AND ONE OF THE ONLY PEOPLE THAT WOULD KIND OF PAL AROUND 329 00:17:11,033 --> 00:17:12,533 WITH HIM WAS CHARLIE. 330 00:17:12,533 --> 00:17:14,833 BEING AROUND SOMEBODY LIKE CHARLIE SCHMID, 331 00:17:14,833 --> 00:17:18,000 YOU WOULD GET TO FEEL LIKE YOU WERE ALSO ONE OF THE COOL GUYS. 332 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:21,267 CHARLIE TRIED TO HELP RICHIE BY TAKING HIM ON DOUBLE DATES. 333 00:17:21,267 --> 00:17:23,367 TRYING TO SOCIALIZE HIM, I GUESS. 334 00:17:25,467 --> 00:17:27,367 AND THE COPS PUT TOGETHER 335 00:17:27,367 --> 00:17:31,333 THAT IF CHARLIE WAS BRINGING RICHIE ALONG ON DATES... 336 00:17:31,333 --> 00:17:34,467 HE MUST HAVE KNOWN GRETCHEN PRETTY WELL. 337 00:17:34,467 --> 00:17:38,000 BRUNS HAD A HORRIBLE PERSONALITY. 338 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:41,333 AND WAS NOT EXACTLY CHARMING. 339 00:17:41,333 --> 00:17:42,700 YOU'RE A DEEP-FREEZE BITCH! 340 00:17:42,700 --> 00:17:44,867 DO NOT SPEAK TO ME THAT WAY. DO YOU HAVE ANY MANNERS?! 341 00:17:44,867 --> 00:17:46,200 DO YOU HAVE ANY MANNERS?! 342 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:48,967 AND JUST ROYALLY PISSED OFF GRETCHEN. 343 00:17:48,967 --> 00:17:50,400 PIECE OF SCUM! 344 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:53,033 GRETCHEN HAD A REALLY VOLATILE PERSONALITY. 345 00:17:53,033 --> 00:17:54,667 JUST LEAVE! JUST DON'T TALK, OKAY? 346 00:17:54,667 --> 00:17:56,333 DO NOT TALK TO US. SHUT UP. SHUT UP. 347 00:17:56,333 --> 00:18:02,867 AND, ACTUALLY, SHE ALSO HAD A HUGE TEMPER. 348 00:18:02,867 --> 00:18:05,600 LET'S JUST GO. 349 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:07,200 AND FROM THAT DAY ON, 350 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:09,733 RICHIE AND GRETCHEN HATED EACH OTHER 351 00:18:09,733 --> 00:18:11,800 AND GOT INTO A LOT OF ARGUMENTS. 352 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:15,000 STOP LOOKING THIS WAY, OKAY? PLEASE, IT'S VERY CREEPY. 353 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:16,533 SHUT UP. 354 00:18:16,533 --> 00:18:18,633 IT'S SO RUDE. IT'S SO RUDE. 355 00:18:18,633 --> 00:18:20,533 I CAN HEAR YOU. I CAN HEAR YOU, YOU KNOW. 356 00:18:20,533 --> 00:18:23,233 OKAY, SO THEN DON'T LISTEN TO US. 357 00:18:23,233 --> 00:18:25,767 Dupnik: SHE ENJOYED TORMENTING PEOPLE. 358 00:18:25,767 --> 00:18:28,533 SHE ENJOYED CONFRONTATION. 359 00:18:28,533 --> 00:18:29,800 AND SHE USUALLY WON. 360 00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:32,267 YES, I AM TALKING ABOUT YOU. 361 00:18:32,267 --> 00:18:37,367 Marsh: AND FOR A SOCIALLY AWKWARD GUY, THAT MADE THINGS EVEN WORSE. 362 00:18:37,367 --> 00:18:40,267 GO AWAY! WE DON'T WANT YOU HERE. 363 00:18:40,267 --> 00:18:42,833 THAT GRETCHEN'S EVIL, MAN. 364 00:18:42,833 --> 00:18:44,967 SHE DESERVES TO DIE. 365 00:18:46,133 --> 00:18:49,300 DISGUSTING, MAN. SHE'S A LITTLE RICH GIRL. 366 00:18:49,300 --> 00:18:51,333 MAYBE I SHOULD TAKE CARE OF IT MYSELF, YEAH? 367 00:18:53,633 --> 00:18:56,867 [ CHUCKLES ] 368 00:18:56,867 --> 00:18:58,733 HE JUST REALLY, REALLY HATED HER. 369 00:18:58,733 --> 00:19:00,700 HE WOULD NOT MIND SEEING HER DEAD. 370 00:19:00,700 --> 00:19:02,967 IF YOU LOOK AT IT LIKE WE ALL DID, 371 00:19:02,967 --> 00:19:06,367 RICHIE WAS BARELY HANGING ONTO HIS SOCIAL LIFE AS IT WAS, 372 00:19:06,367 --> 00:19:08,267 AND THEN GRETCHEN TRIED TO MAKE ALL THE GIRLS 373 00:19:08,267 --> 00:19:09,733 SHUT HIM OUT FOR GOOD. 374 00:19:09,733 --> 00:19:11,800 THAT WAS ABOUT AS BAD AS IT GOT. 375 00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:15,867 SO IT STOOD TO REASON RICHIE WOULD WANT REVENGE. 376 00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:24,667 Woman: NO ONE HAD SEEN GRETCHEN AND WENDY FRITZ FOR WEEKS, 377 00:19:24,667 --> 00:19:27,933 AND THEN TUCSON POLICE HEARD THAT RICHIE BRUNS SAID 378 00:19:27,933 --> 00:19:31,633 THAT HE THOUGHT GRETCHEN DESERVED TO DIE. 379 00:19:31,633 --> 00:19:33,500 SO THEY CAME AROUND, TRYING TO FIND OUT 380 00:19:33,500 --> 00:19:36,067 IF THEY COULD CONNECT RICHIE TO THE GIRLS' DISAPPEARANCE. 381 00:19:36,067 --> 00:19:37,867 WE HAVE IT ON GOOD ACCOUNTS 382 00:19:37,867 --> 00:19:40,267 THAT YOU REALLY DIDN'T LIKE GRETCHEN. 383 00:19:40,267 --> 00:19:42,900 I...I MEAN, YEAH, I DIDN'T LIKE HER. 384 00:19:42,900 --> 00:19:45,000 YEAH. EVERYONE KNOWS THAT. 385 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:46,733 SHE DIDN'T LIKE ME, EITHER. 386 00:19:46,733 --> 00:19:49,167 BUT I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THIS. SORRY. 387 00:19:49,167 --> 00:19:52,067 EVEN THOUGH RICHIE HAD A LONG RAP SHEET 388 00:19:52,067 --> 00:19:54,900 AND TOLD ANYONE WHO'D LISTEN HOW MUCH HE HATED GRETCHEN, 389 00:19:54,900 --> 00:19:56,900 THE POLICE DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING SOLID 390 00:19:56,900 --> 00:19:59,267 TO CONNECT HIM TO WHATEVER ACTUALLY HAPPENED. 391 00:19:59,267 --> 00:20:01,800 McNamara: THEY DON'T HAVE A BODY. 392 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:04,800 THEY DON'T HAVE ANY BLOOD. THEY DON'T HAVE A TRAIL. 393 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:06,900 SO REALLY, THEY'RE AT A DEAD END. 394 00:20:06,900 --> 00:20:09,067 IF I WERE YOU, I'D WATCH YOUR STEP. 395 00:20:09,067 --> 00:20:11,200 OKAY. 396 00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:27,133 SO THE POLICE KEPT PUSHING EVERYONE IN OUR CROWD, 397 00:20:27,133 --> 00:20:30,933 TRYING TO GET SOMETHING, ANYTHING, TO SHAKE LOOSE. 398 00:20:30,933 --> 00:20:33,267 STILL ASKING ABOUT THOSE TWO SISTERS. 399 00:20:36,833 --> 00:20:40,133 McNamara: POLICE CONTINUED TO TALK TO THIS TEEN SPEEDWAY CROWD. 400 00:20:40,133 --> 00:20:43,233 GRETCHEN FRITZ -- DO YOU KNOW ANYTHING? 401 00:20:43,233 --> 00:20:45,167 Woman: NO. 402 00:20:45,167 --> 00:20:47,800 I KNOW GRETCHEN. 403 00:20:49,233 --> 00:20:52,400 SHE'S A SNOTTY, LITTLE BITCH. 404 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:57,667 THEN THEY GET TO MARY FRENCH. 405 00:20:57,667 --> 00:21:00,267 SHE WAS NOT SHY ABOUT HER DISLIKE FOR GRETCHEN EITHER. 406 00:21:00,267 --> 00:21:05,433 Marsh: MARY FRENCH WAS A GIRL WHO MOST PEOPLE WHO KNEW HER 407 00:21:05,433 --> 00:21:09,167 DESCRIBED AS NOT BRIGHT INTELLECTUALLY, 408 00:21:09,167 --> 00:21:11,067 AND WHO ALSO TENDED TO GET IN A LOT OF TROUBLE. 409 00:21:11,067 --> 00:21:14,933 SHE DROPPED OUT OF SCHOOL, AND SHE WAS A PRETTY HEAVY DRINKER. 410 00:21:14,933 --> 00:21:18,000 SHE CAROUSED WITH THE GROUP AND DID WHAT THE GROUP DID. 411 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:23,600 [ INDISTINCT CONVERSATIONS ] 412 00:21:41,967 --> 00:21:46,367 Dupnik: MARY FRENCH WAS ONE OF CHARLIE SCHMID'S GIRLFRIENDS. 413 00:21:46,367 --> 00:21:49,300 Gilmore: MARY FRENCH WAS VERY JEALOUS 414 00:21:49,300 --> 00:21:53,133 WHEN HE STARTED FOOLING AROUND SO MUCH WITH GRETCHEN FRITZ. 415 00:21:53,133 --> 00:21:57,500 Schafer: I DON'T THINK GRETCHEN GAVE AS MUCH A DAMN AS MARY DID, 416 00:21:57,500 --> 00:22:00,267 BECAUSE GRETCHEN HAD OTHER BOYS, TOO. 417 00:22:00,267 --> 00:22:05,367 WE DON'T KNOW ANY OTHER BOYS THAT MARY HAD. 418 00:22:05,367 --> 00:22:07,700 SHE WAS VERY MUCH AGAINST SCHMID GOING WITH ANYBODY, 419 00:22:07,700 --> 00:22:09,133 BUT ESPECIALLY GRETCHEN. 420 00:22:09,133 --> 00:22:12,900 YOU COULD TELL THAT SHE KNEW THAT HE REALLY LIKED GRETCHEN. 421 00:22:16,733 --> 00:22:19,933 BUT MARY WASN'T JUST JEALOUS OF GRETCHEN. 422 00:22:19,933 --> 00:22:23,467 SHE WAS READY TO FIGHT TO GET CHARLIE FOR KEEPS, 423 00:22:23,467 --> 00:22:27,267 AND SHE HAD ONE HELL OF A CARD TO PLAY. 424 00:22:27,267 --> 00:22:29,033 IT WAS THE NIGHT BEFORE GRETCHEN WENT MISSING. 425 00:22:32,133 --> 00:22:35,467 THERE WAS A BIG PARTY AT CHARLIE'S HOUSE. 426 00:22:35,467 --> 00:22:38,400 Dupnik: MARY FRENCH WAS NOT A NICE PERSON. 427 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:41,033 SHE HAD AN EVIL, DARK SIDE TO HER. 428 00:22:44,133 --> 00:22:45,633 French: EXCUSE ME, GRETCHEN. 429 00:22:45,633 --> 00:22:46,800 COULD YOU PLEASE HAVE SOME RESPECT? 430 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:48,767 HE'S WITH ME, OKAY? NO. 431 00:22:48,767 --> 00:22:50,000 NO, I KNOW YOU CAN'T, 'CAUSE YOU'RE SUCH A BITCH. 432 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:51,300 THERE'S NO DISCUSSION, OKAY? 433 00:22:51,300 --> 00:22:52,533 HE IS WITH ME. STOP! 434 00:22:52,533 --> 00:22:53,933 OH, YEAH? OH, YEAH? HE'S WITH ME. 435 00:22:53,933 --> 00:22:57,433 HOW MANY GUYS ARE YOU WITH?! 436 00:22:57,433 --> 00:23:03,267 McNamara: AND THAT CULMINATED IN THIS HUGE, DRAMATIC FIGHT. 437 00:23:03,267 --> 00:23:05,867 MARY BLURTED OUT, "I'M PREGNANT." 438 00:23:05,867 --> 00:23:09,633 BUT GRETCHEN WASN'T GONNA WALK AWAY FROM THE TABLE. 439 00:23:09,633 --> 00:23:11,533 SHE ALWAYS WANTED TO WIN. 440 00:23:11,533 --> 00:23:13,867 AND THEN GRETCHEN -- "I'M PREGNANT, TOO!" 441 00:23:13,867 --> 00:23:16,267 EVERYONE WAS WITNESS TO THIS. 442 00:23:16,267 --> 00:23:17,667 OH, YEAH?! 443 00:23:17,667 --> 00:23:20,867 HOW MANY OTHER BOYS HAVE YOU BEEN WITH, GRETCHEN?! 444 00:23:20,867 --> 00:23:23,600 GRETCHEN WAS PROBABLY JUST FAKING, 445 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:25,600 FOR FUN OR CONTROL OR WHATEVER, 446 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:27,933 BUT I HEARD MARY REALLY WAS PREGNANT, 447 00:23:27,933 --> 00:23:31,533 SO NOW SHE NEEDED SMITTY ALL TO HERSELF. 448 00:23:31,533 --> 00:23:34,033 Schafer: ACCORDING TO HER, 449 00:23:34,033 --> 00:23:36,933 SHE WAS GOING TO MAKE SURE THAT HE WOULD MARRY HER. 450 00:23:36,933 --> 00:23:39,900 SO, MARY, HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT GRETCHEN? 451 00:23:46,267 --> 00:23:49,267 SHE WAS A RICH GIRL... 452 00:23:49,267 --> 00:23:53,400 THE KIND OF GIRL WHO COULD TAKE WHATEVER SHE WANTED, 453 00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:58,300 GET... WHATEVER SHE WANTED. 454 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:03,400 YOU DIDN'T LIKE THAT, DID YOU? 455 00:24:05,333 --> 00:24:07,433 NO. 456 00:24:08,867 --> 00:24:15,333 Schafer: SHE WAS A KID, BUT SHE HAD A STARE LIKE NOBODY ELSE. 457 00:24:15,333 --> 00:24:19,267 HER EYES -- I MEAN, SHE COULD GET ONTO YOURS, 458 00:24:19,267 --> 00:24:21,533 AND SHE'D STAY RIGHT THERE. 459 00:24:21,533 --> 00:24:24,767 DETECTIVE ROBLES -- SHE REALLY BOTHERED HIM. 460 00:24:24,767 --> 00:24:26,667 AND HE WAS AN OLD VETERAN. 461 00:24:26,667 --> 00:24:29,467 EVERYONE KNEW HOW SPOOKY MARY WAS, 462 00:24:29,467 --> 00:24:32,400 BUT IT WAS SOMETHING ELSE THAT MADE THE POLICE THINK 463 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:35,533 SHE COULD ME MIXED UP IN THE FRITZ GIRLS' DISAPPEARANCE. 464 00:24:35,533 --> 00:24:38,133 THEY'D ACTUALLY QUESTIONED MARY BEFORE 465 00:24:38,133 --> 00:24:41,267 ABOUT ANOTHER MISSING GIRL. 466 00:24:42,867 --> 00:24:46,733 Marsh: THEY INTERVIEWED HER A YEAR AGO, 467 00:24:46,733 --> 00:24:49,467 WHEN ALLEEN ROWE WENT MISSING. 468 00:24:49,467 --> 00:24:51,433 REMEMBER ALLEEN ROWE? 469 00:24:51,433 --> 00:24:53,533 WE DID. 470 00:24:53,533 --> 00:24:56,700 THE COPS HAD CHALKED HER UP AS JUST ANOTHER TEEN RUNAWAY, 471 00:24:56,700 --> 00:24:58,267 BUT WE ALL KNEW DIFFERENT. 472 00:24:58,267 --> 00:25:00,533 ALLEEN WASN'T LIKE GRETCHEN AND MARY. 473 00:25:00,533 --> 00:25:02,867 SHE WASN'T PART OF THE SPEEDWAY SCENE. 474 00:25:02,867 --> 00:25:07,333 Dupnik: ALLEEN ROWE WAS A MODEL KID -- GOOD STUDENT 475 00:25:07,333 --> 00:25:09,733 AND NEVER WAS A PROBLEM TO HER MOTHER OR TO ANYBODY. 476 00:25:09,733 --> 00:25:13,100 Marsh: BUT WHAT SHE DID HAVE WAS A NEIGHBOR NAMED MARY FRENCH. 477 00:25:16,833 --> 00:25:21,600 ALLEEN. COME ON IN. 478 00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:26,667 HER MOTHER NEVER FELT COMFORTABLE WITH MARY, 479 00:25:26,667 --> 00:25:30,167 SO MRS. ROWE DIRECTED THE POLICE TO MARY FRENCH. 480 00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:36,333 AND FOR THE FIRST TIME, THE COPS PUT TOGETHER 481 00:25:36,333 --> 00:25:39,067 WHAT US KIDS ON SPEEDWAY HAD KNOWN ALL ALONG -- 482 00:25:39,067 --> 00:25:41,567 THERE WAS A CONNECTION BETWEEN ALLEEN ROWE 483 00:25:41,567 --> 00:25:42,867 AND THE FRITZ SISTERS. 484 00:25:42,867 --> 00:25:44,833 BUT MARY DIDN'T FLINCH. 485 00:25:44,833 --> 00:25:46,367 IF SHE KNEW MORE, 486 00:25:46,367 --> 00:25:50,700 THERE WAS NOTHING THE POLICE COULD DO TO GET HER TO TALK. 487 00:25:58,867 --> 00:26:01,000 WEREN'T THESE FRIENDS OF YOURS? NO. 488 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:02,467 AND YOU DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY? 489 00:26:02,467 --> 00:26:04,667 NO. 490 00:26:06,667 --> 00:26:08,733 IS THERE ANYTHING AT ALL YOU'D LIKE TO TELL US? 491 00:26:08,733 --> 00:26:10,167 THERE'S NOTHING FOR ME TO TELL. 492 00:26:10,167 --> 00:26:12,133 DO YOU KNOW GRETCHEN? I DON'T KNOW. 493 00:26:12,133 --> 00:26:14,567 McNamara: THE POLICE ARE SO CONVINCED 494 00:26:14,567 --> 00:26:18,067 THAT THE ANSWERS ARE WITH THIS TEEN SPEEDWAY CROWD 495 00:26:18,067 --> 00:26:20,767 THAT THEY JUST, YOU KNOW, KEEP GOING BACK TO THEM. 496 00:26:21,967 --> 00:26:25,000 THERE HAD TO BE SOMETHING THERE THAT THE KIDS KNEW. 497 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:26,900 IS THERE ANYTHING THAT YOU'D LIKE TO TELL? 498 00:26:26,900 --> 00:26:27,900 I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING. 499 00:26:27,900 --> 00:26:29,533 WHAT DO YOU KNOW ABOUT GRETCHEN? 500 00:26:29,533 --> 00:26:30,933 I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. 501 00:26:30,933 --> 00:26:33,067 BUT THE KIDS WEREN'T TALKING. 502 00:26:34,267 --> 00:26:36,700 Dupnik: THE QUESTIONING WENT ON FOR MONTHS, 503 00:26:36,700 --> 00:26:39,067 AND IT WENT ON VERY INTENSELY. 504 00:26:39,067 --> 00:26:42,267 YOU KNOW WITHHOLDING INFORMATION IS PUNISHABLE BY JAIL TIME?! 505 00:26:42,267 --> 00:26:44,067 DON'T TALK TO MY SON THAT WAY. LET'S GO. 506 00:26:44,067 --> 00:26:46,267 McNamara: THE PARENTS ACTUALLY GOT A COURT ORDER 507 00:26:46,267 --> 00:26:48,667 TO STOP THE POLICE FROM QUESTIONING THEIR KIDS. 508 00:26:54,633 --> 00:26:57,400 THE POLICE GOT VERY HEAVILY EMOTIONALLY INVOLVED 509 00:26:57,400 --> 00:27:00,867 IN THIS CASE BECAUSE THEY WERE SO FRUSTRATED. 510 00:27:00,867 --> 00:27:04,333 THERE JUST AREN'T ANY MORE LEADS TO FOLLOW. 511 00:27:04,333 --> 00:27:08,967 McNamara: YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES, CASES ARE BROKEN JUST BY A LUCKY BREAK... 512 00:27:08,967 --> 00:27:10,267 [ TELEPHONE RINGS ] 513 00:27:10,267 --> 00:27:12,400 ...A LUCKY PHONE CALL. 514 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:14,433 [ TELEPHONE RINGS ] 515 00:27:18,767 --> 00:27:21,600 THE PHONE RANG, AND IT WAS RICHIE BRUNS. 516 00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:24,467 RICHIE BRUNS -- 517 00:27:24,467 --> 00:27:27,467 REMEMBER THAT GIRL HE WAS OBSESSED WITH? 518 00:27:27,467 --> 00:27:30,533 WELL, THAT SITUATION HAD GOTTEN WAY OUT OF CONTROL. 519 00:27:30,533 --> 00:27:34,567 DUE TO RICHIE'S CONTINUAL HARASSMENT... 520 00:27:34,567 --> 00:27:39,067 Schafer: HE WAS SENT BY THE LOCAL MUNICIPAL COURT 521 00:27:39,067 --> 00:27:41,133 TO OHIO ON PROBATION. 522 00:27:41,133 --> 00:27:43,333 McNamara: WHERE HIS GRANDMOTHER LIVED. 523 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:50,133 Schafer: BUT HE HAD LASTED ONLY, I THINK, A COUPLE OF DAYS. 524 00:27:50,133 --> 00:27:54,400 HE WAS AFRAID THAT THE GIRL THAT HE LIKED 525 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:55,967 WAS GONNA BE KILLED OR RAPED. 526 00:27:55,967 --> 00:27:57,767 I THINK HE WAS GENUINE ABOUT THAT. 527 00:27:57,767 --> 00:28:02,267 CAN YOU CONNECT ME TO THE TUCSON POLICE DEPARTMENT, PLEASE? 528 00:28:02,267 --> 00:28:05,400 YEAH, THIS IS, UH, THIS IS RICHIE BRUNS. 529 00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:08,367 I HAVE SOME INFORMATION ABOUT THE FRITZ GIRLS. 530 00:28:10,333 --> 00:28:13,900 YEAH, I'LL, UH, I'LL TELL YOU EVERYTHING YOU NEED TO KNOW. 531 00:28:13,900 --> 00:28:17,100 CAN YOU JUST GET ME BACK TO TUCSON, PLEASE? 532 00:28:25,733 --> 00:28:27,800 YOU'RE GONNA WANT TO TURN LEFT UP HERE. 533 00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:30,633 Detective: UP HERE? YEAH. 534 00:28:30,633 --> 00:28:33,400 Woman: IT HAD BEEN OVER TWO MONTHS 535 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:37,133 OF THE POLICE QUESTIONING US AND HUNTING DOWN DEAD ENDS, 536 00:28:37,133 --> 00:28:40,133 AND THEN, OUT OF THE BLUE, A CALL FROM RICHIE BRUNS 537 00:28:40,133 --> 00:28:42,400 FINALLY BROKE THE WHOLE STORY OPEN. 538 00:28:45,567 --> 00:28:47,933 Schafer: HE KNOWS WHAT HAPPENED, 539 00:28:47,933 --> 00:28:50,100 AND THE ONLY WAY TO GET BACK TO TUCSON 540 00:28:50,100 --> 00:28:52,933 WAS TO TELL THE STORY TO THE POLICE. 541 00:28:54,333 --> 00:28:59,000 IT ALL STARTED WITH THE ALLEEN GIRL. 542 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:03,933 SHE WAS BLOND AND PRETTY IN THE FACE. 543 00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:24,500 McNamara: RICHIE BRUNS TELLS POLICE 544 00:29:24,500 --> 00:29:28,133 CHARLIE GOT IT INTO HIS HEAD THAT HE WANTED TO KILL A GIRL. 545 00:29:35,500 --> 00:29:38,967 HE WANTED TO SEE WHAT IT FELT LIKE. 546 00:29:38,967 --> 00:29:41,500 HE THOUGHT THAT WOULD BE EXCITING, A BIT OF A THRILL. 547 00:30:00,867 --> 00:30:03,967 AND MARY HELPED HIM DO IT. 548 00:30:03,967 --> 00:30:06,533 SHE'S GOT SCHOOL TOMORROW. 549 00:30:06,533 --> 00:30:08,933 THIS WAS YOUR JOB. 550 00:30:08,933 --> 00:30:11,533 I'LL CALL HER. 551 00:30:11,533 --> 00:30:14,067 GET HER TO GO OUT ON A DOUBLE DATE WITH JOHN. 552 00:30:14,067 --> 00:30:16,867 I'LL COME PICK YOU UP. I'LL HAVE JOHN WITH ME. 553 00:30:16,867 --> 00:30:18,600 I WANT TO DO IT TONIGHT. 554 00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:20,467 I WANT HER. 555 00:30:20,467 --> 00:30:23,600 I LOVE YOU. 556 00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:26,400 WE NEED TO DO THIS. 557 00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:28,067 YOU PROMISED ME. 558 00:30:28,067 --> 00:30:30,200 OKAY. 559 00:30:40,067 --> 00:30:42,900 THEY LURED ALLEEN OUT BY INSISTING 560 00:30:42,900 --> 00:30:47,300 THAT SHE GO ON A DOUBLE DATE WITH THIS GUY, JOHN SAUNDERS, 561 00:30:47,300 --> 00:30:49,000 WHO WAS A FRIEND OF CHARLIE'S. 562 00:30:55,933 --> 00:30:57,633 IT'S A BEAUTIFUL NIGHT. 563 00:30:57,633 --> 00:31:00,867 ALLEEN, YOU LIKE THIS PART OF THE DESERT? 564 00:31:00,867 --> 00:31:02,600 YEAH, IT'S REALLY BEAUTIFUL. 565 00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:04,567 WHAT DO YOU LIKE ABOUT IT? 566 00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:10,267 IT'S...THE CALMNESS. 567 00:31:10,267 --> 00:31:12,900 ALLEEN WAS A NICE GIRL, AND SHE TRUSTED MARY. 568 00:31:12,900 --> 00:31:15,433 THEY WERE NEIGHBORS, AND THEY WERE FRIENDS. 569 00:31:15,433 --> 00:31:18,400 IT'S THE FARTHEST EDGE OF INSANE, 570 00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:22,533 BUT SOMEHOW CHARLIE SCHMID HAD CONVINCED TWO OTHER KIDS 571 00:31:22,533 --> 00:31:25,200 TO LURE A GIRL TO HER MURDER -- 572 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:29,933 MARY FRENCH AND JOHN SAUNDERS. 573 00:31:29,933 --> 00:31:32,133 THE POLICE WERE HUNTING FOR A KILLER 574 00:31:32,133 --> 00:31:34,400 IN THE SPEEDWAY CROWD, 575 00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:39,100 BUT FINDING A GROUP OF THEM -- THAT WAS TOUCHING EVIL. 576 00:31:39,100 --> 00:31:43,300 McNamara: CHARLIE WAS ABLE TO MANIPULATE TROUBLED TEENS 577 00:31:43,300 --> 00:31:45,000 BECAUSE THEY BELIEVED 578 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:48,133 THAT HE THOUGHT THAT THEY WERE SPECIAL. 579 00:31:48,133 --> 00:31:51,867 Schafer: THEY'D DO WHATEVER HE WANTED THEM TO, 580 00:31:51,867 --> 00:31:53,567 AND BRUNS SAID THAT. 581 00:31:53,567 --> 00:31:55,700 I MEAN, THAT'S AS COLD AS THE DEVIL, 582 00:31:55,700 --> 00:31:57,000 WHEN YOU THINK OF IT. 583 00:31:57,000 --> 00:32:01,167 I KNOW A GREAT SPOT, UH, DOWN A LITTLE BIT. 584 00:32:01,167 --> 00:32:02,767 WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE IT? 585 00:32:02,767 --> 00:32:04,000 YEAH, SURE. JOHN? 586 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:05,933 YEAH. Mary: I'LL HANG HERE. 587 00:32:05,933 --> 00:32:08,867 I WANT TO LISTEN TO THE RADIO. 588 00:32:08,867 --> 00:32:11,167 SUIT YOURSELF. 589 00:32:21,933 --> 00:32:25,267 Schafer: SCHMID SAID, "RAPE HER." 590 00:32:25,267 --> 00:32:28,000 JOHN SAUNDERS COULDN'T DO IT, 591 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:31,400 AND SCHMID SAID, "ALL RIGHT, I'LL DO IT." 592 00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:33,433 AND HE RAPED HER. 593 00:32:36,300 --> 00:32:38,767 [ ALLEEN SCREAMING IN DISTANCE ] 594 00:32:40,467 --> 00:32:43,000 [ ROCK MUSIC PLAYING ON RADIO ] 595 00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:48,400 McNamara: IN THE CAR, MARY CAN HEAR THE SCREAMS. 596 00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:50,333 [ SCREAMING CONTINUES ] 597 00:32:50,333 --> 00:32:54,367 Marsh: IT'S POSSIBLE THAT MARY WAS SOMEWHAT CONFLICTED. 598 00:32:56,467 --> 00:33:01,933 HE TOOK A ROCK AND HIT HER IN THE HEAD TWICE, 599 00:33:01,933 --> 00:33:03,700 AND THAT'S WHAT KILLED HER. 600 00:33:08,100 --> 00:33:11,200 I LOVE YOU SO MUCH. I LOVE YOU SO MUCH. 601 00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:12,867 MMM, I LOVE YOU SO MUCH. 602 00:33:12,867 --> 00:33:15,100 WE GOT TO GET THE SHOVEL. WE GOT WORK TO DO, BABY, OKAY? 603 00:33:15,100 --> 00:33:17,133 YEAH. 604 00:33:17,133 --> 00:33:19,533 [ ROCK MUSIC CONTINUES ] 605 00:33:19,533 --> 00:33:23,433 McNamara: TOGETHER, THE THREE OF THEM BURY HER IN THE DESERT. 606 00:33:30,367 --> 00:33:33,567 HE WAS TELLING EVERYBODY ABOUT WHAT HE DID TO HER. 607 00:33:33,567 --> 00:33:35,700 HE WAS EVEN BRAGGING ABOUT IT. 608 00:33:37,867 --> 00:33:41,900 HE BRAGGED ABOUT KILLING ALLEEN TO A NUMBER OF KIDS. 609 00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:50,333 McNamara: CHARLIE LOVED THE ADORATION FROM THIS TEEN CROWD. 610 00:33:50,333 --> 00:33:54,133 HE LIKED TO INSTILL FEAR IN PEOPLE, TOO, 611 00:33:54,133 --> 00:33:56,967 AND PEOPLE WERE AFRAID OF HIM. 612 00:33:58,433 --> 00:34:01,867 BUT NOT EVERYONE WAS AFRAID, 613 00:34:01,867 --> 00:34:04,933 EVEN WHEN THEY SHOULD HAVE BEEN. 614 00:34:04,933 --> 00:34:09,200 Marsh: GRETCHEN WAS, HERSELF, PRETTY MENTALLY UNSTABLE. 615 00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:12,000 HER APPROACH TO THAT DISCOVERY 616 00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:15,000 WAS NOT THE NORMAL FEAR AND RUNNING FOR THE POLICE. 617 00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:20,000 Dupnik: BRUNS CLAIMED THAT GRETCHEN HELD IT OVER HIS HEAD 618 00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:23,300 TO EXTORT WHATEVER SHE WANTED OUT OF CHARLIE SCHMID. 619 00:34:23,300 --> 00:34:28,000 IF CHARLIE THOUGHT GRETCHEN WAS GONNA BE INTIMIDATED 620 00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:31,067 BY THE ALLEEN STORY, HE THOUGHT WRONG. 621 00:34:31,067 --> 00:34:33,267 GRETCHEN WASN'T THAT KIND OF GIRL. 622 00:34:33,267 --> 00:34:37,067 FOR HER, IT WAS LEVERAGE -- THE PERFECT THREAT 623 00:34:37,067 --> 00:34:39,767 FOR WHENEVER CHARLIE STEPPED OUT OF LINE. 624 00:34:39,767 --> 00:34:42,167 THAT WAS THE WAY SHE WANTED TO MAKE USE 625 00:34:42,167 --> 00:34:44,933 OF THIS REALLY IMPORTANT PIECE OF INFORMATION, 626 00:34:44,933 --> 00:34:46,533 WAS TO USE IT AS A WEAPON. 627 00:34:50,333 --> 00:34:54,667 AND THEN THE FRITZ FAMILY TOOK THEIR VACATION TO SAN DIEGO. 628 00:34:54,667 --> 00:34:57,000 BUT INSTEAD OF DISTANCE COOLING THINGS OFF, 629 00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:59,033 IT ONLY MADE THEM WORSE. 630 00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:02,400 WHILE SHE WAS AWAY, 631 00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:05,867 CHARLIE WAS LIVING IT UP AND HAVING THESE PARTIES, 632 00:35:05,867 --> 00:35:08,500 AND WHEN GRETCHEN GOT WIND OF THIS, SHE WAS REALLY UPSET. 633 00:35:08,500 --> 00:35:10,867 [ MOVIE SOUNDTRACK PLAYING ] 634 00:35:11,933 --> 00:35:14,633 WELL, DON'T WAIT. I'LL GROW UP, AND I'LL NEVER GO. 635 00:35:14,633 --> 00:35:17,067 YOU HAVE TO MAKE DECISIONS AND STICK TO THEM. 636 00:35:17,067 --> 00:35:18,867 IF YOU DON'T, YOU NEVER GET ANYPLACE. 637 00:35:18,867 --> 00:35:21,967 HEY. 638 00:35:21,967 --> 00:35:23,733 I HEARD THERE'S ANOTHER PARTY TONIGHT. 639 00:35:23,733 --> 00:35:25,867 YOU COMING? 640 00:35:25,867 --> 00:35:29,867 RICHIE BRUNS TELLS POLICE THAT GRETCHEN WAS AT THE MOVIE. 641 00:35:29,867 --> 00:35:31,867 WE'RE GOING. 642 00:35:31,867 --> 00:35:33,333 I'LL SEE YOU AT SMITTY'S. 643 00:35:33,333 --> 00:35:35,667 YEAH, I'LL SEE YOU AT SMITTY'S. 644 00:35:35,667 --> 00:35:39,733 AND SHE HEARS THAT CHARLIE'S HAVING A PARTY, 645 00:35:39,733 --> 00:35:41,467 WHICH JUST MAKES HER REALLY ANGRY. 646 00:35:41,467 --> 00:35:43,867 I JUST TOLD GRETCHEN WHAT I'D HEARD 647 00:35:43,867 --> 00:35:45,367 THAT NIGHT AT THE DRIVE-IN. 648 00:35:45,367 --> 00:35:47,400 "THERE'S A PARTY. EVERYONE'S GONNA BE AT SMITTY'S." 649 00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:49,867 [ ENGINE TURNS OVER ] 650 00:35:49,867 --> 00:35:51,967 I HAD NO IDEA IT WASN'T TRUE, 651 00:35:51,967 --> 00:35:55,600 OR THAT SOME STUPID WORDS COMING OUT OF MY MOUTH 652 00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:57,300 COULD TURN SO AWFUL. 653 00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:03,067 WHAT GIVES YOU THE IDEA THAT YOU CAN DO WHAT YOU WANT TO DO? 654 00:36:03,067 --> 00:36:05,667 OH, MAYBE ALL THE GUYS YOU SCREWED. 655 00:36:05,667 --> 00:36:08,267 NO, THAT IS EXACTLY NOT WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. 656 00:36:08,267 --> 00:36:09,433 YOU DIDN'T CONTACT ME, 657 00:36:09,433 --> 00:36:11,067 AND YOU'VE BEEN CONTACTING OTHER GIRLS. 658 00:36:11,067 --> 00:36:13,000 WHAT IS -- WHAT IS THE PROBLEM THERE? 659 00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:14,600 DO YOU SEE THE PROBLEM THERE? 660 00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:16,733 I DON'T SEE ANYTHING. 661 00:36:16,733 --> 00:36:18,767 INSTANTLY, THEY JUST START FIGHTING. 662 00:36:18,767 --> 00:36:20,733 TELL ME WHAT YOU'RE DOING WITH THESE OTHER GIRLS... 663 00:36:20,733 --> 00:36:22,067 TELL ME WHAT YOU'RE -- ...INVITING THEM 664 00:36:22,067 --> 00:36:25,467 TO OTHER PARTIES AND NOT TELLING ME ABOUT IT AT ALL? 665 00:36:25,467 --> 00:36:26,733 YOU ARE NOTHING! 666 00:36:26,733 --> 00:36:28,467 YOU ARE NOTHING, OKAY?! 667 00:36:28,467 --> 00:36:29,867 [ Voice breaking ] YOU'RE SUCH A PIECE OF SCUM! 668 00:36:29,867 --> 00:36:33,467 WHY ARE YOU DOING THIS TO ME?! IT'S NOT OKAY! 669 00:36:33,467 --> 00:36:38,067 GRETCHEN WAS IMPULSIVE AND AGGRESSIVE AND WILD. 670 00:36:38,067 --> 00:36:43,067 SHE LOVED LASHING OUT, GETTING HER WAY. 671 00:36:44,867 --> 00:36:46,300 BUT SHE COULDN'T HAVE KNOWN 672 00:36:46,300 --> 00:36:48,733 THAT WHEN SHE TANGLED WITH CHARLIE SCHMID, 673 00:36:48,733 --> 00:36:52,500 SHE WAS RUNNING INTO A DARKNESS SHE'D NEVER ESCAPE. 674 00:36:55,133 --> 00:36:57,267 YOU KNOW WHO MY FATHER IS. 675 00:36:57,267 --> 00:37:02,467 YOU KNOW THAT IF I TOLD HIM WHAT I KNOW ABOUT YOU... 676 00:37:02,467 --> 00:37:05,933 I COULD GET YOU IN SO MUCH TROUBLE. 677 00:37:05,933 --> 00:37:09,200 WHAT DO YOU MEAN? TELL HIM WHAT? 678 00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:10,733 YOU KNOW WHAT. 679 00:37:14,167 --> 00:37:17,233 CHARLIE FELT LIKE HE HAD TO ELIMINATE HER. 680 00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:23,967 [ BOTH SCREAMING INDISTINCTLY ] 681 00:37:28,167 --> 00:37:33,867 Dupnik: HE ALLEGEDLY GOT THE GUITAR STRING FROM HIS GUITAR 682 00:37:33,867 --> 00:37:37,133 AND USED IT TO CHOKE HER TO DEATH... 683 00:37:37,133 --> 00:37:42,133 AND THEN HE WENT AND GOT WENDY AND DID THE SAME THING TO HER. 684 00:37:42,133 --> 00:37:47,133 AND POOR WENDY -- SHE WAS ONLY 13. 685 00:37:47,133 --> 00:37:50,567 SHE JUST HAPPENED TO BE WITH HER BIG SISTER THAT NIGHT, 686 00:37:50,567 --> 00:37:53,000 WHEN THAT LAST AWFUL FIGHT HAPPENED. 687 00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:57,400 Dupnik: HE THEN PUT THEM IN THE TRUNK OF HIS AUTOMOBILE 688 00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:00,033 AND TOOK THEM OUT TO THIS DESERT AREA 689 00:38:00,033 --> 00:38:01,867 IN THE FOOTHILLS OF TUCSON. 690 00:38:01,867 --> 00:38:06,533 McNamara: AND THEN HE CAME BACK, AND HE DROVE GRETCHEN'S CAR 691 00:38:06,533 --> 00:38:09,467 AND LEFT IT AT THE FLAMINGO HOTEL. 692 00:38:17,533 --> 00:38:19,867 YEAH, THAT'S HER, RIGHT THERE. 693 00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:25,667 SMITTY TOOK ME UP HERE, 694 00:38:25,667 --> 00:38:27,933 SAID WE HAD TO MOVE THE BODIES. 695 00:38:27,933 --> 00:38:31,067 RICHIE EXPLAINS TO THE POLICE THAT ABOUT THREE WEEKS 696 00:38:31,067 --> 00:38:32,633 AFTER THE FRITZ GIRLS WENT MISSING... 697 00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:36,667 RIGHT HERE. RIGHT HERE. 698 00:38:36,667 --> 00:38:39,267 ...CHARLIE TOOK HIM OUT TO THE DESERT 699 00:38:39,267 --> 00:38:40,967 TO SHOW HIM WHERE THE BODIES WERE. 700 00:38:43,867 --> 00:38:46,733 THAT'S GRETCHEN? 701 00:38:46,733 --> 00:38:48,733 YEAH. 702 00:38:48,733 --> 00:38:52,067 HE HELPED SCHMID DRAG THEM OUT TO THE BURIAL SPOT. 703 00:38:53,933 --> 00:38:56,867 YOU KNOW, RICH... 704 00:38:56,867 --> 00:38:59,867 IT'S BETWEEN YOU AND ME NOW. 705 00:38:59,867 --> 00:39:02,500 YOU CAN'T SAY ANYTHING. 706 00:39:03,933 --> 00:39:06,067 HE WAS QUITE AFRAID OF SCHMID. 707 00:39:06,067 --> 00:39:10,333 McNamara: POLICE HAD MADE A DEAL WITH RICHIE 708 00:39:10,333 --> 00:39:12,467 THAT IN EXCHANGE FOR THIS INFORMATION, 709 00:39:12,467 --> 00:39:15,967 HE WILL NOT BE CHARGED. 710 00:39:15,967 --> 00:39:19,867 CHARLIE WANTED ME TO CALL ALLEEN, SO I DID. 711 00:39:19,867 --> 00:39:23,133 IT WAS ALL CHARLIE'S IDEA. 712 00:39:23,133 --> 00:39:26,167 McNamara: IN EXCHANGE FOR REDUCED SENTENCING, 713 00:39:26,167 --> 00:39:28,067 MARY FRENCH AND JOHN SAUNDERS 714 00:39:28,067 --> 00:39:30,533 AGREE TO TESTIFY AGAINST CHARLIE SCHMID. 715 00:39:33,267 --> 00:39:35,433 Dupnik: ON THE 10th OF NOVEMBER, 716 00:39:35,433 --> 00:39:38,467 LIEUTENANT ROBLES AND I PLACED HIM UNDER ARREST. 717 00:39:38,467 --> 00:39:44,000 AT THAT POINT, HE WAS A DIFFERENT CHARLIE SCHMID. 718 00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:46,633 HIS BEHAVIOR IS VERY BIZARRE. 719 00:39:46,633 --> 00:39:48,633 HE STUNK. HE WAS FILTHY. 720 00:39:48,633 --> 00:39:50,533 Marsh: HE WORE PANCAKE MAKEUP. 721 00:39:50,533 --> 00:39:53,567 HE WORE REALLY HEAVY COATS OF CHAP STICK ON HIS LIPS. 722 00:39:53,567 --> 00:39:55,667 HE WORE A BANDAGE ACROSS HIS NOSE, 723 00:39:55,667 --> 00:39:58,067 AS IF HE HAD BEEN IN SOME SORT OF FIGHT. 724 00:39:58,067 --> 00:40:01,667 AND HE HAD A BEAUTY MARK ON HIS FACE 725 00:40:01,667 --> 00:40:05,133 THAT HE ACCENTUATED WITH THIS BLACK, GREASY STUFF. 726 00:40:05,133 --> 00:40:08,733 HE SEEMED TO BELIEVE THAT HE LOOKED LIKE ELVIS PRESLEY. 727 00:40:11,267 --> 00:40:15,067 Dupnik: HE JUST WOULDN'T TALK TO US. 728 00:40:15,067 --> 00:40:18,133 HE WAS IN ALMOST LIKE A TRANCE. 729 00:40:18,133 --> 00:40:21,567 AT THAT POINT, HE WAS PROBABLY ON THE VERGE OF CRACKING UP. 730 00:40:21,567 --> 00:40:23,667 CHARLIE HAD JUST BEEN PLAYING 731 00:40:23,667 --> 00:40:26,333 AT THE "BITCHIN' SMITTY" CHARACTER ALL ALONG, 732 00:40:26,333 --> 00:40:27,667 BUT NOW IT WAS OVER. 733 00:40:27,667 --> 00:40:30,600 HE LOOKED LIKE SOME KIND OF GROTESQUE CLOWN. 734 00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:33,100 BUT IT WASN'T FUNNY FOR ANY OF US. 735 00:40:33,100 --> 00:40:37,067 IT FELT MORE LIKE WE'D BEEN DANCING WITH THE DEVIL. 736 00:40:37,067 --> 00:40:39,800 Marsh: HE WAS SO GOOD AT BEING PHONY. 737 00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:42,267 Schafer: HE HAD RECORDINGS 738 00:40:42,267 --> 00:40:44,933 OF ONE OF THE GOOD GUITAR PLAYERS IN TOWN. 739 00:40:44,933 --> 00:40:47,200 Marsh: AND THEN HE PUT THE TAPE RECORDER 740 00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:49,267 UNDER A CABINET THAT HE HAD MADE. 741 00:40:49,267 --> 00:40:51,400 Schafer: BUT HE WASN'T PLAYING AT ALL. 742 00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:53,633 ALL THE THINGS THAT CHARLIE DID, 743 00:40:53,633 --> 00:40:56,367 WHEN YOU STEP BACK AND LOOK AT THEM TODAY, 744 00:40:56,367 --> 00:40:58,133 WE'D CALL HIM A PSYCHOPATH. 745 00:40:58,133 --> 00:41:00,067 BUT IN 1965, 746 00:41:00,067 --> 00:41:02,867 THAT WASN'T THE KIND OF MONSTER ANYBODY KNEW ABOUT YET. 747 00:41:02,867 --> 00:41:05,067 Marsh: PEOPLE WHO ARE PSYCHOPATHIC, IN MANY CASES, 748 00:41:05,067 --> 00:41:06,567 SEEM MORE ALIVE, 749 00:41:06,567 --> 00:41:08,233 MORE CHARISMATIC, MORE INTERESTING. 750 00:41:08,233 --> 00:41:13,867 BUT THAT MASK CONCEALS A REAL INNER DEADNESS, 751 00:41:13,867 --> 00:41:15,900 WHERE HE WAS A GRANDIOSE NARCISSIST 752 00:41:15,900 --> 00:41:18,733 AT THE CENTER OF THINGS WHO WAS ABLE TO MANIPULATE 753 00:41:18,733 --> 00:41:21,600 TEENAGERS WHO WERE LOOKING FOR GUIDANCE. 754 00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:26,067 THAT WAS THE MOST AMAZING PART OF IT ALL, THAT THIS GUY -- 755 00:41:26,067 --> 00:41:31,200 CHARMING, YES, EXCITING, SURE, BUT STILL JUST A GUY -- 756 00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:34,567 GOT A GROUP OF KIDS TO STAND BY 757 00:41:34,567 --> 00:41:38,533 WHILE HE KILLED THREE PEOPLE AND GOT AWAY WITH IT. 758 00:41:38,533 --> 00:41:44,200 Marsh: HE EVEN HAD THE NICKNAME "THE PIED PIPER OF TUCSON." 759 00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:46,533 Schafer: YOU EXPECT AT SOME POINT, 760 00:41:46,533 --> 00:41:48,933 SOMEBODY'S CONSCIENCE IS GONNA SAY, 761 00:41:48,933 --> 00:41:51,333 "NO, I'VE GOT TO TELL WHAT I KNOW." 762 00:41:51,333 --> 00:41:53,867 NOBODY SAID ANYTHING, NOTHING. 763 00:41:55,867 --> 00:41:59,133 IT'S A BETTER STORY TO SAY THERE WAS SOMETHING TERRIBLE 764 00:41:59,133 --> 00:42:00,633 ABOUT OUR CROWD OUT ON SPEEDWAY, 765 00:42:00,633 --> 00:42:02,767 THAT WE WERE BAD KIDS, 766 00:42:02,767 --> 00:42:04,433 BUT THE TRUTH MIGHT BE SCARIER. 767 00:42:04,433 --> 00:42:06,567 THERE WAS NOTHING GOING ON IN TUCSON 768 00:42:06,567 --> 00:42:08,200 THAT COULDN'T HAPPEN ANYWHERE. 769 00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:11,667 ADOLESCENCE IS THE TIME PERIOD THE PARTS OF YOUR BRAIN 770 00:42:11,667 --> 00:42:16,433 THAT GOVERN REWARD SEEKING AND CURIOUSLY ARE REALLY ACTIVE. 771 00:42:16,433 --> 00:42:19,400 HOWEVER, THE PREFRONTAL PARTS OF THE BRAIN 772 00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:22,133 THAT GOVERN IMPULSE CONTROL ARE UNDERDEVELOPED, 773 00:42:22,133 --> 00:42:23,867 AND THAT CREATES TROUBLE. 774 00:42:23,867 --> 00:42:26,033 THE PARTS OF THE WORLD 775 00:42:26,033 --> 00:42:27,600 THAT HAVE THE HIGHEST RATES OF VIOLENCE ARE OFTEN THOSE 776 00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:29,267 THAT HAVE THE HIGHEST PROPORTION OF ADOLESCENTS. 777 00:42:29,267 --> 00:42:32,700 WE ALL DO CRAZY THINGS GROWING UP. 778 00:42:32,700 --> 00:42:34,633 I BET YOU DID, TOO. 779 00:42:34,633 --> 00:42:37,200 GRETCHEN FRITZ WAS JUST DATING BOYS 780 00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:39,733 AND HAVING DRAMAS WITH HER FRIENDS. 781 00:42:39,733 --> 00:42:41,733 FOR TEENAGERS, CRAZY IS NORMAL, 782 00:42:41,733 --> 00:42:44,267 AND THAT'S ALL IT WOULD HAVE BEEN... 783 00:42:44,267 --> 00:42:46,133 IF A PIED PIPER HADN'T COME 784 00:42:46,133 --> 00:42:48,467 AND PLAYED HIS SONG IN OUR TOWN. 785 00:42:48,467 --> 00:42:50,500 [ "HOUSE OF THE RISING SUN" PLAYS ] 786 00:42:52,033 --> 00:42:59,000 * THERE IS A HOUSE IN NEW ORLEANS * 787 00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:04,467 * THEY CALL THE RISING SUN * 788 00:43:04,467 --> 00:43:11,133 * AND IT'S BEEN THE RUIN OF MANY A POOR BOY * 789 00:43:11,133 --> 00:43:15,967 * AND ME, OH, GOD, I'M ONE * 790 00:43:16,017 --> 00:43:20,567 Repair and Synchronization by Easy Subtitles Synchronizer 1.0.0.0 60467

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