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Woman: WELL, DON'T WAIT. I'LL
GROW UP, AND I'LL NEVER GO.
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YOU HAVE TO MAKE DECISIONS
AND STICK TO THEM.
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IF YOU DON'T,
YOU NEVER GET ANYPLACE.
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Wendy: OH, MY GOSH, GRETCHEN.
HE IS SO DREAMY.
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Gretchen: SO DREAMY.
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I WANT TO GO ON A DATE
WITH HIM SO BAD.
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WELL, YOU KNOW WHAT?
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I BET HE'S A GREAT LAY.
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[ GIGGLES ]
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HOW WOULD YOU KNOW?
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HOW WOULD I KNOW?
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IT'S NOT
FOR YOUR LITTLE EARS.
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[ GIGGLES ]
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Woman: I ALWAYS THOUGHT
GRETCHEN FRITZ WAS LUCKY.
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SHE WAS BEAUTIFUL,
HER PARENTS HAD MONEY,
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AND EVEN HER KID SISTER
WAS SWEET.
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Young woman: HEY, I HEARD
THERE'S ANOTHER PARTY TONIGHT.
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YOU COMING?
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SO IF I WAS KIND OF SNOTTY
AROUND HER,
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I GUESS IT'S BECAUSE
I WAS JEALOUS.
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MAYBE WE ALL WERE.
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YEAH, I'M COMING.
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WE'RE GOING.
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READY TO GO TO A PARTY?
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BUT I FEEL AWFUL
THINKING ABOUT IT NOW...
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[ ENGINE TURNS OVER ]
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...BECAUSE THAT NIGHT,
AT THE CACTUS DRIVE-IN,
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WHEN GRETCHEN DROVE OFF
INTO THE DARK, THAT WAS IT.
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NONE OF US EVER SAW
THE FRITZ SISTERS ALIVE AGAIN.
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TUCSON, ARIZONA, IN 1965,
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WAS A STRANGE COMBINATION
OF A BOOMTOWN,
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THE OLD WILD WEST,
AND NOWHERESVILLE.
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Schafer:
IT'S A BEAUTIFUL, BEAUTIFUL SPOT BETWEEN TWO MOUNTAINS,
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BUT IT IS STARK.
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Marsh: LIKE A LOT OF OTHER PARTS
OF THE COUNTRY,
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TUCSON AND THE AREA HAD
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THIS BOOMING POPULATION
OF ADOLESCENTS.
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A REALLY BIG NUMBER OF KIDS
WOULD CONGREGATE
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WITH ALMOST NO SUPERVISION.
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THE PLACE TO GO
WITHOUT PARENTS AND TEACHERS
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BREATHING DOWN YOUR NECK
WAS SPEEDWAY.
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IT WAS JUST A BUNCH
OF GAS STATIONS,
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CAR WASHES, BOWLING ALLEYS,
LIKE THAT.
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BUT IT WAS BETTER
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THAN BEING BORED
OUT OF YOUR SKULL AT HOME.
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I BECAME A COP IN 1958,
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WITH THE TUCSON
POLICE DEPARTMENT,
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AND BY 1965, THE CULTURE HAD
CHANGED SUBSTANTIALLY.
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THESE TEENS WERE GOING NUTS.
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Young woman:
[ Laughing ] OH, MY GOD, GUYS!
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Young man:
OH, NOT IN MY BACKSEAT!
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BOOZE, STAYING OUT ALL NIGHT,
AND SEX.
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[ LAUGHTER ]
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THERE WASN'T REALLY
ANYTHING ELSE TO DO.
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OUT OF MY FACE!
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Marsh: ONE OF THE THINGS THAT
WE REALLY KNOW ABOUT ADOLESCENTS
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IS HOW MUCH MORE PRONE THEY ARE
TO ENGAGING IN BAD BEHAVIOR
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WHEN THEY ARE AROUND EACH OTHER.
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Detective:
WAS THERE ANYTHING UNUSUAL
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GOING ON LATELY
HERE AT HOME?
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WERE THE GIRLS FIGHTING?
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ANY OTHER PROBLEMS?
NO.
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NO, UH, WE'D JUST GOTTEN BACK
FORM CALIFORNIA THIS WEEK.
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EVERYTHING SEEMED NORMAL,
AND THEN...
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WE HAD AN EVENT TO ATTEND
LAST NIGHT,
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AND THE GIRLS WANTED
TO GO TO A MOVIE.
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THE LAST TIME
THE FRITZES SAW THEIR DAUGHTERS
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WAS 7:30 THE NIGHT BEFORE,
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AND THEY WERE GOING
TO THE CACTUS DRIVE-IN.
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IF IT WAS --
IF IT WAS JUST GRETCHEN,
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WE WOULDN'T BE WORRIED.
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BUT WENDY DOES NOT
BEHAVE LIKE THIS.
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WHY DO YOU SAY THAT,
"JUST GRETCHEN"?
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HI, THERE.
WHAT'S UP?
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IS THAT CIGARETTE
FOR ME?
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BUT GRETCHEN
WASN'T JUST PRETTY AND RICH.
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SHE HAD AN EDGE.
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SHE WAS ALWAYS LOOKING
FOR SOME EXCITEMENT, A THRILL.
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THEY HAD HAD PROBLEMS
WITH GRETCHEN BEFORE,
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SNEAKING OUT
AND HAVING BOYS SNEAK IN.
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HEY.
Young man: HEY. HOW'S IT GOING?
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GOOD.
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SEE THAT TALL GUY
OVER THERE?
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WELL,
HE WAS TELLING ME
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THAT HE COULD
BEAT THE TWO OF YOU UP.
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Dupnik: GRETCHEN HAD ALWAYS BEEN
A PROBLEM.
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SHE LIKED TO BE
THE FOCUS OF ATTENTION.
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GET OFF, FELLAS!
HEY!
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McNamara: THE POLICE HAD
A BIT OF A HISTORY WITH GRETCHEN
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FROM SOME JUVENILE INCIDENTS.
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GRETCHEN WANTED TO DO
WHAT GRETCHEN WANTED TO DO.
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Dupnik: BUT THEY WERE TWO
TOTALLY DIFFERENT CHILDREN.
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WENDY, THE YOUNGER ONE,
WAS A MODEL CHILD
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AND WOULD NEVER STAY OUT
ALL NIGHT.
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SO IF ANY OF US HAD TO GUESS
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HOW THE FRITZ GIRLS
GOT INTO TROUBLE,
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IT WAS PROBABLY SOMETHING TO DO
WITH GRETCHEN.
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DO YOU REMEMBER SEEING
EITHER OF THESE TWO GIRLS?
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SURE, YEAH.
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THE POLICE WENT
TO THAT DRIVE-IN.
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McNamara: IT WAS CONFIRMED
THAT THEY HAD BEEN THERE,
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HAD SEEN THE MOVIE.
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DID YOU SEE
WHO SHE LEFT WITH?
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NO, NOT AT ALL.
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McNamara: SO THEY PUT AN APB
ON GRETCHEN'S CAR.
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SHE HAD A BRAND-NEW PONTIAC,
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AND IF SHE DIDN'T WANT TO GO
TO SCHOOL THIS WEEK,
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SHE DIDN'T GO THIS WEEK.
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GRETCHEN'S NEW PONTIAC
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MEANT SHE COULD JUST
TAKE OFF ON HER OWN,
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SO THE POLICE PROBABLY THOUGHT
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IF YOU FOUND GRETCHEN'S CAR,
YOU'D FIND HER.
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[ SIGHS ]
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YOU ARE AWARE
IT'S NOT UNUSUAL
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FOR GIRLS AT THIS AGE
TO RUN AWAY?
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IN 1965,
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TEENAGERS OUTNUMBERED GROWN-UPS
JUST ABOUT EVERYWHERE.
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IT WAS BOUND TO HAPPEN.
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ALL THOSE BABIES BORN
RIGHT AFTER WORLD WAR II
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HAD TO GROW UP SOMEDAY.
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ABOUT A YEAR BEFORE
THE FRITZ GIRLS DISAPPEARED...
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SHE'S A BEAUTIFUL GIRL.
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...THERE WAS ANOTHER GIRL
WHO WAS 15,
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AND HER NAME WAS ALLEEN ROWE.
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ALLEEN ROWE DISAPPEARED
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WHILE THE MOTHER WAS AT WORK,
AT NIGHT.
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SO POLICE GOT REPORTS
ALL THE TIME
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ABOUT TEENS WHO RAN AWAY,
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AND MOST OF THE TIME,
THEY CAME BACK AGAIN JUST FINE.
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SHE'S NOT A RUNAWAY.
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SHE'S MISSING.
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MOST OF THE TIME.
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AND IT WOULD HAVE BEEN
THE FRITZ'S WORST NIGHTMARE
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TO HAVE THEIR DAUGHTERS
STAY LOST, LIKE ALLEEN.
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[ THUNDER CRASHES ]
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THE FRITZ FAMILY
BECAME SO FRUSTRATED
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WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT'S
INABILITY TO FIND THE KIDS
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THAT THEY WENT OUT
AND HIRED A PRIVATE DETECTIVE.
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[ THUNDER RUMBLES ]
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McNamara: FOUR DAYS AFTER
THE GIRLS GO MISSING,
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HEILIG FINDS GRETCHEN'S PONTIAC
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IN THE PARKING LOT
OF THE FLAMINGO HOTEL,
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WHICH IS RIGHT NEAR
THE SPEEDWAY.
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[ TELEPHONE RINGS ]
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SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT.
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DETECTIVE,
YOU GOT TO COME SEE THIS.
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McNamara:
SO HEILIG CALLS IN THE POLICE.
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AND THEY EXAMINE THE CAR.
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GRETCHEN'S PURSE
IS STILL IN THERE.
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THERE'S A $20 BILL IN THERE.
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WHEN THEY DO A CANVASS,
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NO ONE CAN TELL THEM,
YOU KNOW, ANYTHING --
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WHO DROPPED IT OFF,
WHO DROVE IT THERE.
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BUT, EERILY,
THE ODOMETER IS DISCONNECTED,
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WHICH SUGGESTS
THAT MAYBE SOMEONE
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WAS TRYING TO MASK
MILEAGE ON THE CAR.
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WHEN THEY FOUND GRETCHEN'S CAR,
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THEY KNEW SHE HADN'T JUST
TAKEN OFF ON HER OWN.
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IT LOOKED LIKE SOMEONE
HAD TAKEN HER...
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AND WAS TRYING
TO COVER THEIR TRACKS.
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Woman:
THE FRITZ SISTERS HAD VANISHED,
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LAST SEEN AT THE CACTUS
DRIVE-IN IN TUCSON.
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THEIR CAR HAD BEEN FOUND
IN A MOTEL PARKING LOT...
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BUT THERE WAS NO TRACE
OF THE GIRLS.
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GRETCHEN, THE OLDER ONE,
WAS BEAUTIFUL
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AND HAD ALWAYS GOTTEN
A LOT OF ATTENTION,
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SO IT MADE SENSE
WHEN THE POLICE GOT WIND
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OF A BOY THAT COULD HAVE
TAKEN HER AWAY...
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...SOMEONE FROM OUT OF STATE.
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Dupnik: GRETCHEN WAS BRAGGING
ABOUT SOME GUY
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THAT SHE GOT INVOLVED WITH
OVER IN SAN DIEGO.
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BUT SHE HADN'T SAID THE NAME,
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AND SHE COULD HAVE MET SOMEONE
AT THE BEACH,
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SHE COULD HAVE MET SOMEONE
AT THE HOTEL.
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Dupnik: THE SAN DIEGO POLICE
DEPARTMENT HAD A PICTURE,
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OF COURSE, OF THE FRITZ GIRLS,
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AND THEY, IN FACT,
INTERROGATED DIFFERENT PEOPLE,
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BUT THEY WERE NEVER ABLE
TO COME UP
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WITH ANY SPECIFIC INFORMATION.
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TO OUR UNDERSTANDING,
YOU USED TO DATE GRETCHEN FRITZ.
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YES, AT ONE POINT, YEAH,
WE WERE KIND OF A THING.
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SO THE SEARCH FOR GRETCHEN
CAME BACK HOME
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TO OUR GROUP IN TUCSON,
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AND THE COPS WANTED TO TALK
TO ANY GUYS
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GRETCHEN HAD BEEN INVOLVED WITH
AROUND HERE.
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Detective: IS THERE ANYTHING
YOU COULD TELL US
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ABOUT GRETCHEN'S
WHEREABOUTS?
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MY GUESS
IS THAT SHE RAN AWAY.
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THAT'S SOMETHING
GRETCHEN WOULD DO.
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SHE DIDN'T HAVE
AN EASY FAMILY LIFE.
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Dupnik: CHARLES SCHMID LIVED
IN A SMALL HOUSE
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NEXT TO HIS PARENTS.
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[ INDISTINCT CONVERSATIONS ]
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Marsh: CHARLIE SCHMID WAS
A PRETTY GOOD-LOOKING GUY --
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WELL-BUILT, GOOD ATHLETE.
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HE WAS ALSO 23.
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Marsh:
HE LOVED TO THROW PARTIES.
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Dupnik: AND EVERYBODY WANTED
TO GO TO THOSE PARTIES.
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Marsh: HE WAS SOMEBODY
WHO DREW PEOPLE TO HIM.
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Schafer:
AND GRETCHEN WAS ONE OF THEM.
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SMITTY WAS BITCHIN',
AS WE USED TO SAY.
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WE ALL THOUGHT SO.
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WHEN HE LAID EYES ON YOU,
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IT FELT LIKE YOU WERE
THE ONLY GIRL IN THE ROOM.
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BUT THE THING WAS,
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SMITTY LAID EYES
ON A LOT OF GIRLS.
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WHEN YOU'RE YOUNG,
YOU NEVER BELIEVE
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THE GUYS YOU DATE
COULD BE DANGEROUS.
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[ "HOUSE OF THE RISING SUN"
PLAYS ]
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* THERE IS A HOUSE
IN NEW ORLEANS *
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* THEY CALL THE RISING SUN *
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* IT'S BEEN THE RUIN
OF MANY A POOR BOY *
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* ME, OH, GOD, FOR ONE *
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HE COULD PLAY THE GUITAR
AND SING A LITTLE BIT.
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Schafer: THE KIDS
REALLY LOOKED UP TO HIM.
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HE WAS SMART.
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HE WAS A MUSICIAN.
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AND KIDS WERE SORT OF FREE
OVER THERE TO DO WHAT THEY WANT.
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SO WHEN GRETCHEN FRITZ
WENT MISSING...
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THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
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...OF COURSE THE COPS
LOOKED AT HER EX-BOYFRIEND.
224
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THIS IS A CHEVY MALIBU.
YOU KNOW WHAT'S UNDER THAT?
225
00:12:09,867 --> 00:12:11,867
YEAH.
CHECK IT OUT.
226
00:12:11,867 --> 00:12:14,867
BUT THEY FOUND OUT
THAT CHARLIE SPENT
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00:12:14,867 --> 00:12:18,067
MOST OF HIS TIME WORKING ON
CARS AND HANGING OUT.
228
00:12:18,067 --> 00:12:21,167
CHARLIE SCHMID
HAD NO CRIMINAL HISTORY AT ALL.
229
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CHARLIE SCHMID
WAS KIND OF A MODEL CHILD.
230
00:12:34,167 --> 00:12:37,600
WELL, THERE WAS ANOTHER
INDIVIDUAL THAT HUNG AROUND
231
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WHO WAS EXTREMELY INTERESTING
TO THE POLICE.
232
00:12:39,833 --> 00:12:42,933
EVERYONE KNEW RICHIE BRUNS.
233
00:12:42,933 --> 00:12:46,767
HE WAS A CREEP AND A LONER.
234
00:12:46,767 --> 00:12:51,367
AND THE RUMOR WAS HE'D BEEN
CAUGHT UP IN A MURDER BEFORE.
235
00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:05,967
SO, DO YOU KNOW
WHY YOU'RE HERE?
236
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NO, I DON'T.
237
00:13:12,867 --> 00:13:15,867
WHY AM I HERE?
238
00:13:15,867 --> 00:13:18,300
GRETCHEN FRITZ.
239
00:13:22,067 --> 00:13:23,733
I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING
ABOUT THAT.
240
00:13:23,733 --> 00:13:24,733
I'M SORRY.
241
00:13:24,733 --> 00:13:27,000
Woman: WHAT WE HEARD WAS
242
00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:29,700
THE POLICE DIDN'T HAVE
ANY REAL SUSPECTS AT ALL.
243
00:13:29,700 --> 00:13:32,633
BUT GRETCHEN DID HANG AROUND
THE SPEEDWAY CROWD,
244
00:13:32,633 --> 00:13:35,067
AND A LOT OF KIDS THERE
HAD RECORDS.
245
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RICHIE BRUNS -- HE HAD DONE
A LOT OF PETTY CRIMES.
246
00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:40,133
HE WAS CHRONICALLY SUSPENDED
FROM SCHOOL.
247
00:13:40,133 --> 00:13:42,533
Schafer:
AND DIDN'T SEEM TO GIVE A DAMN.
248
00:13:42,533 --> 00:13:46,433
AND HE WAS RUMORED TO HAVE BEEN
INVOLVED IN A MURDER.
249
00:13:46,433 --> 00:13:49,967
THE STORY WENT
THAT A COUPLE YEARS BACK,
250
00:13:49,967 --> 00:13:51,833
RICHIE BRUNS HAD BEEN AT WORK
251
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WHEN HE GOT APPROACHED
BY SOME OLDER GUY.
252
00:13:54,733 --> 00:13:56,467
Bruns: YOU MIGHT WANT TO GET
YOUR SPARKS
253
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AND YOUR PLUGS FIXED,
TOO.
254
00:13:57,700 --> 00:13:59,667
Man: THANK YOU.
255
00:13:59,667 --> 00:14:02,433
Gilmore: SOME OLDER GUY
WANTED TO BUY HIM BEER,
256
00:14:02,433 --> 00:14:04,167
AND, OF COURSE, RICHIE,
YOU KNOW,
257
00:14:04,167 --> 00:14:05,467
ANYBODY GONNA BUY HIM BEER,
258
00:14:05,467 --> 00:14:07,533
HE'S GONNA SIT AND TALK TO YOU
FOR A WHILE.
259
00:14:07,533 --> 00:14:10,200
I DID RUN AWAY ONCE,
YOU KNOW.
260
00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:12,800
YOU WANT TO RUN AWAY?
261
00:14:17,533 --> 00:14:20,800
HE SHOWED HIM THIS GUN.
262
00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:21,967
[ GUN COCKS ]
263
00:14:21,967 --> 00:14:23,967
.38.
264
00:14:23,967 --> 00:14:27,267
AND RICHIE SAID,
"OH, MAN, THAT'S SO COOL."
265
00:14:27,267 --> 00:14:30,533
WHY DON'T WE GO ON IN?
266
00:14:30,533 --> 00:14:34,767
AND THE GUY PROPOSITIONED HIM.
267
00:14:34,767 --> 00:14:37,067
AND RICHE DECIDED
HE DIDN'T WANT TO BE INVOLVED
268
00:14:37,067 --> 00:14:38,867
WITH THIS GUY ANYMORE,
AND HE LEFT.
269
00:14:38,867 --> 00:14:41,067
McNamara:
ABOUT A DAY LATER,
270
00:14:41,067 --> 00:14:44,433
THE MAN IS FOUND SHOT DEAD
IN A DITCH.
271
00:14:44,433 --> 00:14:45,833
HE SAID HE WANTED
TO BUY ME BEER.
272
00:14:45,833 --> 00:14:47,467
I GOT IN HIS CAR.
HE'S A QUEER, THOUGH.
273
00:14:47,467 --> 00:14:48,500
I'M NOT HIS FRIEND.
274
00:14:48,500 --> 00:14:50,600
I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING
ABOUT THAT.
275
00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:52,300
RICHIE'S FINGERPRINTS
WERE ON THE GUN.
276
00:14:52,300 --> 00:14:56,167
IT TURNS OUT,
SOME GUY IN PHOENIX
277
00:14:56,167 --> 00:14:58,767
ACTUALLY KILLED THE MAN,
BUT THAT DIDN'T MATTER.
278
00:14:58,767 --> 00:15:00,833
THIS WAS GRADE-A GOSSIP,
279
00:15:00,833 --> 00:15:04,267
AND STORIES ABOUT RICHIE BRUNS
TOOK OFF.
280
00:15:04,267 --> 00:15:06,633
AND AFTER THE FRITZ GIRLS
WENT MISSING,
281
00:15:06,633 --> 00:15:10,067
THE POLICE WANTED TO HEAR ABOUT
ANYONE WE THOUGHT WAS SHADY...
282
00:15:10,067 --> 00:15:11,800
HOW YOU DOING?
283
00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:13,967
...AND WHETHER THEY'D EVER
CROSSED PATHS WITH GRETCHEN.
284
00:15:13,967 --> 00:15:17,067
WE HEARD YOU KNOW SOMETHING
ABOUT RICHIE BRUNS.
285
00:15:17,067 --> 00:15:19,133
RICHIE BRUNS
IS A CREEP.
286
00:15:19,133 --> 00:15:23,967
RICHIE WAS
YOUR CLASSIC OUTSIDER.
287
00:15:23,967 --> 00:15:26,200
NONE OF THE KIDS LIKED HIM.
288
00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:30,467
HE DIDN'T CARE ABOUT ANYTHING
EXCEPT LOOKING COOL,
289
00:15:30,467 --> 00:15:32,733
BUT HE WAS NOT VERY GOOD
AT THAT.
290
00:15:32,733 --> 00:15:34,967
HE SHOWED UP, AND THEY, LIKE,
LOOK AT ALL OF US
291
00:15:34,967 --> 00:15:37,033
AND SAY, LIKE --
THEY START...
292
00:15:37,033 --> 00:15:39,033
HEY.
SORRY, EXCUSE ME. YEAH.
293
00:15:39,033 --> 00:15:41,700
UM...HEY.
294
00:15:41,700 --> 00:15:43,600
I DON'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT
OR ANYTHING, BUT I WAS --
295
00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:47,000
I WAS AT THE, UH, I WAS AT
THE SHOP THE OTHER DAY...
296
00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:50,067
RICHIE HAD
A REALLY DIFFICULT TIME
297
00:15:50,067 --> 00:15:51,700
TRYING TO FIND GIRLS
THAT HE COULD DATE.
298
00:15:51,700 --> 00:15:53,400
Schafer: HE THOUGHT
THEY WERE SHUNNING HIM.
299
00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:54,600
THEY WOULDN'T COME NEAR HIM.
300
00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:55,833
THEY WOULDN'T DO ANYTHING
WITH HIM.
301
00:15:55,833 --> 00:15:57,433
I THOUGHT IT WOULD LOOK
REALLY PRETTY ON YOU.
302
00:15:57,433 --> 00:15:58,567
SEE, IT'S A HEART...
FOR YOU.
303
00:15:58,567 --> 00:16:00,133
UH, WHY DON'T WE GRAB A COKE
OR SOMETHING?
304
00:16:00,133 --> 00:16:01,333
YEAH.
305
00:16:01,333 --> 00:16:02,867
HANG ON A MINUTE.
306
00:16:02,867 --> 00:16:05,967
Marsh:
RICHIE WAS OBSESSIVE WITH GIRLS.
307
00:16:05,967 --> 00:16:08,100
HE WOULD TURN PEOPLE OFF
308
00:16:08,100 --> 00:16:10,400
BY HIS OVERLY INTENSE WAY
OF APPROACHING THEM.
309
00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:12,967
KATHY, I SPENT A LOT OF MONEY --
DON'T TOUCH ME, MAN.
310
00:16:12,967 --> 00:16:14,233
DON'T TOUCH ME,
ALL RIGHT?
311
00:16:14,233 --> 00:16:17,400
HE WOULD, YOU KNOW,
NOT TAKE NO FOR AN ANSWER,
312
00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:20,333
JUST APPEAR AT THE HOUSE,
FOLLOW THEM AROUND,
313
00:16:20,333 --> 00:16:23,800
INCLUDING STALKING
ONE OF HIS EX-GIRLFRIENDS.
314
00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:26,200
Gilmore:
TO THE POINT WHERE THE FATHER
315
00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:28,567
CALLED THE POLICE
A COUPLE TIMES.
316
00:16:34,300 --> 00:16:37,633
[ LIGHTER CLICKS ]
317
00:16:37,633 --> 00:16:39,467
PLEASURE MEETING YOU.
YOU, TOO.
318
00:16:39,467 --> 00:16:41,433
SEE YOU LATER.
319
00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:45,367
NEED A LIGHT?
320
00:16:46,733 --> 00:16:48,700
YEAH.
321
00:16:54,167 --> 00:16:55,467
WHAT DO YOU THINK
ABOUT KATHY?
322
00:16:55,467 --> 00:16:56,967
PRETTY CUTE.
323
00:16:56,967 --> 00:16:58,433
I DON'T KNOW.
324
00:16:58,433 --> 00:17:02,200
BUT CHARLIE SCHMID WAS WILLING
TO GIVE RICHIE A CHANCE,
325
00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:06,033
AND EVERYONE WANTED TO GET
TO HANG OUT WITH SMITTY.
326
00:17:06,033 --> 00:17:07,267
YOU WANT A BEER?
327
00:17:07,267 --> 00:17:09,200
HELL, YEAH,
I'LL TAKE A BEER.
328
00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:11,033
AND ONE OF THE ONLY PEOPLE
THAT WOULD KIND OF PAL AROUND
329
00:17:11,033 --> 00:17:12,533
WITH HIM WAS CHARLIE.
330
00:17:12,533 --> 00:17:14,833
BEING AROUND SOMEBODY
LIKE CHARLIE SCHMID,
331
00:17:14,833 --> 00:17:18,000
YOU WOULD GET TO FEEL LIKE YOU
WERE ALSO ONE OF THE COOL GUYS.
332
00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:21,267
CHARLIE TRIED TO HELP RICHIE
BY TAKING HIM ON DOUBLE DATES.
333
00:17:21,267 --> 00:17:23,367
TRYING TO SOCIALIZE HIM,
I GUESS.
334
00:17:25,467 --> 00:17:27,367
AND THE COPS PUT TOGETHER
335
00:17:27,367 --> 00:17:31,333
THAT IF CHARLIE WAS BRINGING
RICHIE ALONG ON DATES...
336
00:17:31,333 --> 00:17:34,467
HE MUST HAVE KNOWN GRETCHEN
PRETTY WELL.
337
00:17:34,467 --> 00:17:38,000
BRUNS HAD
A HORRIBLE PERSONALITY.
338
00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:41,333
AND WAS NOT EXACTLY CHARMING.
339
00:17:41,333 --> 00:17:42,700
YOU'RE
A DEEP-FREEZE BITCH!
340
00:17:42,700 --> 00:17:44,867
DO NOT SPEAK TO ME THAT WAY.
DO YOU HAVE ANY MANNERS?!
341
00:17:44,867 --> 00:17:46,200
DO YOU HAVE ANY MANNERS?!
342
00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:48,967
AND JUST ROYALLY PISSED OFF
GRETCHEN.
343
00:17:48,967 --> 00:17:50,400
PIECE OF SCUM!
344
00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:53,033
GRETCHEN HAD
A REALLY VOLATILE PERSONALITY.
345
00:17:53,033 --> 00:17:54,667
JUST LEAVE!
JUST DON'T TALK, OKAY?
346
00:17:54,667 --> 00:17:56,333
DO NOT TALK TO US.
SHUT UP. SHUT UP.
347
00:17:56,333 --> 00:18:02,867
AND, ACTUALLY,
SHE ALSO HAD A HUGE TEMPER.
348
00:18:02,867 --> 00:18:05,600
LET'S JUST GO.
349
00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:07,200
AND FROM THAT DAY ON,
350
00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:09,733
RICHIE AND GRETCHEN
HATED EACH OTHER
351
00:18:09,733 --> 00:18:11,800
AND GOT INTO A LOT OF ARGUMENTS.
352
00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:15,000
STOP LOOKING THIS WAY, OKAY?
PLEASE, IT'S VERY CREEPY.
353
00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:16,533
SHUT UP.
354
00:18:16,533 --> 00:18:18,633
IT'S SO RUDE.
IT'S SO RUDE.
355
00:18:18,633 --> 00:18:20,533
I CAN HEAR YOU.
I CAN HEAR YOU, YOU KNOW.
356
00:18:20,533 --> 00:18:23,233
OKAY, SO THEN DON'T
LISTEN TO US.
357
00:18:23,233 --> 00:18:25,767
Dupnik:
SHE ENJOYED TORMENTING PEOPLE.
358
00:18:25,767 --> 00:18:28,533
SHE ENJOYED CONFRONTATION.
359
00:18:28,533 --> 00:18:29,800
AND SHE USUALLY WON.
360
00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:32,267
YES,
I AM TALKING ABOUT YOU.
361
00:18:32,267 --> 00:18:37,367
Marsh:
AND FOR A SOCIALLY AWKWARD GUY, THAT MADE THINGS EVEN WORSE.
362
00:18:37,367 --> 00:18:40,267
GO AWAY!
WE DON'T WANT YOU HERE.
363
00:18:40,267 --> 00:18:42,833
THAT GRETCHEN'S EVIL, MAN.
364
00:18:42,833 --> 00:18:44,967
SHE DESERVES TO DIE.
365
00:18:46,133 --> 00:18:49,300
DISGUSTING, MAN.
SHE'S A LITTLE RICH GIRL.
366
00:18:49,300 --> 00:18:51,333
MAYBE I SHOULD TAKE CARE OF IT
MYSELF, YEAH?
367
00:18:53,633 --> 00:18:56,867
[ CHUCKLES ]
368
00:18:56,867 --> 00:18:58,733
HE JUST REALLY,
REALLY HATED HER.
369
00:18:58,733 --> 00:19:00,700
HE WOULD NOT MIND
SEEING HER DEAD.
370
00:19:00,700 --> 00:19:02,967
IF YOU LOOK AT IT
LIKE WE ALL DID,
371
00:19:02,967 --> 00:19:06,367
RICHIE WAS BARELY HANGING
ONTO HIS SOCIAL LIFE AS IT WAS,
372
00:19:06,367 --> 00:19:08,267
AND THEN GRETCHEN
TRIED TO MAKE ALL THE GIRLS
373
00:19:08,267 --> 00:19:09,733
SHUT HIM OUT FOR GOOD.
374
00:19:09,733 --> 00:19:11,800
THAT WAS ABOUT AS BAD
AS IT GOT.
375
00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:15,867
SO IT STOOD TO REASON
RICHIE WOULD WANT REVENGE.
376
00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:24,667
Woman: NO ONE HAD SEEN GRETCHEN
AND WENDY FRITZ FOR WEEKS,
377
00:19:24,667 --> 00:19:27,933
AND THEN TUCSON POLICE HEARD
THAT RICHIE BRUNS SAID
378
00:19:27,933 --> 00:19:31,633
THAT HE THOUGHT
GRETCHEN DESERVED TO DIE.
379
00:19:31,633 --> 00:19:33,500
SO THEY CAME AROUND,
TRYING TO FIND OUT
380
00:19:33,500 --> 00:19:36,067
IF THEY COULD CONNECT RICHIE
TO THE GIRLS' DISAPPEARANCE.
381
00:19:36,067 --> 00:19:37,867
WE HAVE IT
ON GOOD ACCOUNTS
382
00:19:37,867 --> 00:19:40,267
THAT YOU REALLY DIDN'T
LIKE GRETCHEN.
383
00:19:40,267 --> 00:19:42,900
I...I MEAN, YEAH,
I DIDN'T LIKE HER.
384
00:19:42,900 --> 00:19:45,000
YEAH.
EVERYONE KNOWS THAT.
385
00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:46,733
SHE DIDN'T LIKE ME,
EITHER.
386
00:19:46,733 --> 00:19:49,167
BUT I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING
ABOUT THIS. SORRY.
387
00:19:49,167 --> 00:19:52,067
EVEN THOUGH RICHIE HAD
A LONG RAP SHEET
388
00:19:52,067 --> 00:19:54,900
AND TOLD ANYONE WHO'D LISTEN
HOW MUCH HE HATED GRETCHEN,
389
00:19:54,900 --> 00:19:56,900
THE POLICE DIDN'T HAVE
ANYTHING SOLID
390
00:19:56,900 --> 00:19:59,267
TO CONNECT HIM
TO WHATEVER ACTUALLY HAPPENED.
391
00:19:59,267 --> 00:20:01,800
McNamara:
THEY DON'T HAVE A BODY.
392
00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:04,800
THEY DON'T HAVE ANY BLOOD.
THEY DON'T HAVE A TRAIL.
393
00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:06,900
SO REALLY,
THEY'RE AT A DEAD END.
394
00:20:06,900 --> 00:20:09,067
IF I WERE YOU,
I'D WATCH YOUR STEP.
395
00:20:09,067 --> 00:20:11,200
OKAY.
396
00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:27,133
SO THE POLICE KEPT PUSHING
EVERYONE IN OUR CROWD,
397
00:20:27,133 --> 00:20:30,933
TRYING TO GET SOMETHING,
ANYTHING, TO SHAKE LOOSE.
398
00:20:30,933 --> 00:20:33,267
STILL ASKING ABOUT
THOSE TWO SISTERS.
399
00:20:36,833 --> 00:20:40,133
McNamara:
POLICE CONTINUED TO TALK TO THIS TEEN SPEEDWAY CROWD.
400
00:20:40,133 --> 00:20:43,233
GRETCHEN FRITZ --
DO YOU KNOW ANYTHING?
401
00:20:43,233 --> 00:20:45,167
Woman: NO.
402
00:20:45,167 --> 00:20:47,800
I KNOW GRETCHEN.
403
00:20:49,233 --> 00:20:52,400
SHE'S A SNOTTY,
LITTLE BITCH.
404
00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:57,667
THEN THEY GET TO MARY FRENCH.
405
00:20:57,667 --> 00:21:00,267
SHE WAS NOT SHY ABOUT HER
DISLIKE FOR GRETCHEN EITHER.
406
00:21:00,267 --> 00:21:05,433
Marsh: MARY FRENCH WAS A GIRL
WHO MOST PEOPLE WHO KNEW HER
407
00:21:05,433 --> 00:21:09,167
DESCRIBED AS NOT BRIGHT
INTELLECTUALLY,
408
00:21:09,167 --> 00:21:11,067
AND WHO ALSO TENDED
TO GET IN A LOT OF TROUBLE.
409
00:21:11,067 --> 00:21:14,933
SHE DROPPED OUT OF SCHOOL, AND
SHE WAS A PRETTY HEAVY DRINKER.
410
00:21:14,933 --> 00:21:18,000
SHE CAROUSED WITH THE GROUP
AND DID WHAT THE GROUP DID.
411
00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:23,600
[ INDISTINCT CONVERSATIONS ]
412
00:21:41,967 --> 00:21:46,367
Dupnik: MARY FRENCH WAS ONE
OF CHARLIE SCHMID'S GIRLFRIENDS.
413
00:21:46,367 --> 00:21:49,300
Gilmore:
MARY FRENCH WAS VERY JEALOUS
414
00:21:49,300 --> 00:21:53,133
WHEN HE STARTED FOOLING AROUND
SO MUCH WITH GRETCHEN FRITZ.
415
00:21:53,133 --> 00:21:57,500
Schafer: I DON'T THINK GRETCHEN
GAVE AS MUCH A DAMN AS MARY DID,
416
00:21:57,500 --> 00:22:00,267
BECAUSE GRETCHEN HAD OTHER BOYS,
TOO.
417
00:22:00,267 --> 00:22:05,367
WE DON'T KNOW ANY OTHER BOYS
THAT MARY HAD.
418
00:22:05,367 --> 00:22:07,700
SHE WAS VERY MUCH AGAINST
SCHMID GOING WITH ANYBODY,
419
00:22:07,700 --> 00:22:09,133
BUT ESPECIALLY GRETCHEN.
420
00:22:09,133 --> 00:22:12,900
YOU COULD TELL THAT SHE KNEW
THAT HE REALLY LIKED GRETCHEN.
421
00:22:16,733 --> 00:22:19,933
BUT MARY WASN'T
JUST JEALOUS OF GRETCHEN.
422
00:22:19,933 --> 00:22:23,467
SHE WAS READY TO FIGHT
TO GET CHARLIE FOR KEEPS,
423
00:22:23,467 --> 00:22:27,267
AND SHE HAD
ONE HELL OF A CARD TO PLAY.
424
00:22:27,267 --> 00:22:29,033
IT WAS THE NIGHT BEFORE
GRETCHEN WENT MISSING.
425
00:22:32,133 --> 00:22:35,467
THERE WAS A BIG PARTY
AT CHARLIE'S HOUSE.
426
00:22:35,467 --> 00:22:38,400
Dupnik: MARY FRENCH
WAS NOT A NICE PERSON.
427
00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:41,033
SHE HAD AN EVIL,
DARK SIDE TO HER.
428
00:22:44,133 --> 00:22:45,633
French:
EXCUSE ME, GRETCHEN.
429
00:22:45,633 --> 00:22:46,800
COULD YOU PLEASE HAVE
SOME RESPECT?
430
00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:48,767
HE'S WITH ME, OKAY?
NO.
431
00:22:48,767 --> 00:22:50,000
NO, I KNOW YOU CAN'T,
'CAUSE YOU'RE SUCH A BITCH.
432
00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:51,300
THERE'S NO DISCUSSION,
OKAY?
433
00:22:51,300 --> 00:22:52,533
HE IS WITH ME.
STOP!
434
00:22:52,533 --> 00:22:53,933
OH, YEAH? OH, YEAH?
HE'S WITH ME.
435
00:22:53,933 --> 00:22:57,433
HOW MANY GUYS
ARE YOU WITH?!
436
00:22:57,433 --> 00:23:03,267
McNamara: AND THAT CULMINATED
IN THIS HUGE, DRAMATIC FIGHT.
437
00:23:03,267 --> 00:23:05,867
MARY BLURTED OUT,
"I'M PREGNANT."
438
00:23:05,867 --> 00:23:09,633
BUT GRETCHEN WASN'T GONNA
WALK AWAY FROM THE TABLE.
439
00:23:09,633 --> 00:23:11,533
SHE ALWAYS WANTED TO WIN.
440
00:23:11,533 --> 00:23:13,867
AND THEN GRETCHEN --
"I'M PREGNANT, TOO!"
441
00:23:13,867 --> 00:23:16,267
EVERYONE WAS WITNESS TO THIS.
442
00:23:16,267 --> 00:23:17,667
OH, YEAH?!
443
00:23:17,667 --> 00:23:20,867
HOW MANY OTHER BOYS HAVE YOU
BEEN WITH, GRETCHEN?!
444
00:23:20,867 --> 00:23:23,600
GRETCHEN WAS PROBABLY
JUST FAKING,
445
00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:25,600
FOR FUN OR CONTROL OR WHATEVER,
446
00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:27,933
BUT I HEARD
MARY REALLY WAS PREGNANT,
447
00:23:27,933 --> 00:23:31,533
SO NOW SHE NEEDED SMITTY
ALL TO HERSELF.
448
00:23:31,533 --> 00:23:34,033
Schafer:
ACCORDING TO HER,
449
00:23:34,033 --> 00:23:36,933
SHE WAS GOING TO MAKE SURE
THAT HE WOULD MARRY HER.
450
00:23:36,933 --> 00:23:39,900
SO, MARY, HOW DO YOU FEEL
ABOUT GRETCHEN?
451
00:23:46,267 --> 00:23:49,267
SHE WAS A RICH GIRL...
452
00:23:49,267 --> 00:23:53,400
THE KIND OF GIRL WHO COULD TAKE
WHATEVER SHE WANTED,
453
00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:58,300
GET...
WHATEVER SHE WANTED.
454
00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:03,400
YOU DIDN'T LIKE THAT,
DID YOU?
455
00:24:05,333 --> 00:24:07,433
NO.
456
00:24:08,867 --> 00:24:15,333
Schafer: SHE WAS A KID, BUT SHE
HAD A STARE LIKE NOBODY ELSE.
457
00:24:15,333 --> 00:24:19,267
HER EYES -- I MEAN,
SHE COULD GET ONTO YOURS,
458
00:24:19,267 --> 00:24:21,533
AND SHE'D STAY RIGHT THERE.
459
00:24:21,533 --> 00:24:24,767
DETECTIVE ROBLES --
SHE REALLY BOTHERED HIM.
460
00:24:24,767 --> 00:24:26,667
AND HE WAS AN OLD VETERAN.
461
00:24:26,667 --> 00:24:29,467
EVERYONE KNEW
HOW SPOOKY MARY WAS,
462
00:24:29,467 --> 00:24:32,400
BUT IT WAS SOMETHING ELSE
THAT MADE THE POLICE THINK
463
00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:35,533
SHE COULD ME MIXED UP IN
THE FRITZ GIRLS' DISAPPEARANCE.
464
00:24:35,533 --> 00:24:38,133
THEY'D ACTUALLY QUESTIONED MARY
BEFORE
465
00:24:38,133 --> 00:24:41,267
ABOUT ANOTHER MISSING GIRL.
466
00:24:42,867 --> 00:24:46,733
Marsh:
THEY INTERVIEWED HER A YEAR AGO,
467
00:24:46,733 --> 00:24:49,467
WHEN ALLEEN ROWE WENT MISSING.
468
00:24:49,467 --> 00:24:51,433
REMEMBER ALLEEN ROWE?
469
00:24:51,433 --> 00:24:53,533
WE DID.
470
00:24:53,533 --> 00:24:56,700
THE COPS HAD CHALKED HER UP
AS JUST ANOTHER TEEN RUNAWAY,
471
00:24:56,700 --> 00:24:58,267
BUT WE ALL KNEW DIFFERENT.
472
00:24:58,267 --> 00:25:00,533
ALLEEN WASN'T LIKE
GRETCHEN AND MARY.
473
00:25:00,533 --> 00:25:02,867
SHE WASN'T PART
OF THE SPEEDWAY SCENE.
474
00:25:02,867 --> 00:25:07,333
Dupnik: ALLEEN ROWE WAS
A MODEL KID -- GOOD STUDENT
475
00:25:07,333 --> 00:25:09,733
AND NEVER WAS A PROBLEM
TO HER MOTHER OR TO ANYBODY.
476
00:25:09,733 --> 00:25:13,100
Marsh: BUT WHAT SHE DID HAVE WAS
A NEIGHBOR NAMED MARY FRENCH.
477
00:25:16,833 --> 00:25:21,600
ALLEEN. COME ON IN.
478
00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:26,667
HER MOTHER NEVER FELT
COMFORTABLE WITH MARY,
479
00:25:26,667 --> 00:25:30,167
SO MRS. ROWE DIRECTED THE POLICE
TO MARY FRENCH.
480
00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:36,333
AND FOR THE FIRST TIME,
THE COPS PUT TOGETHER
481
00:25:36,333 --> 00:25:39,067
WHAT US KIDS ON SPEEDWAY
HAD KNOWN ALL ALONG --
482
00:25:39,067 --> 00:25:41,567
THERE WAS A CONNECTION
BETWEEN ALLEEN ROWE
483
00:25:41,567 --> 00:25:42,867
AND THE FRITZ SISTERS.
484
00:25:42,867 --> 00:25:44,833
BUT MARY DIDN'T FLINCH.
485
00:25:44,833 --> 00:25:46,367
IF SHE KNEW MORE,
486
00:25:46,367 --> 00:25:50,700
THERE WAS NOTHING THE POLICE
COULD DO TO GET HER TO TALK.
487
00:25:58,867 --> 00:26:01,000
WEREN'T THESE FRIENDS OF YOURS?
NO.
488
00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:02,467
AND YOU DON'T HAVE
ANYTHING TO SAY?
489
00:26:02,467 --> 00:26:04,667
NO.
490
00:26:06,667 --> 00:26:08,733
IS THERE ANYTHING AT ALL
YOU'D LIKE TO TELL US?
491
00:26:08,733 --> 00:26:10,167
THERE'S NOTHING
FOR ME TO TELL.
492
00:26:10,167 --> 00:26:12,133
DO YOU KNOW GRETCHEN?
I DON'T KNOW.
493
00:26:12,133 --> 00:26:14,567
McNamara:
THE POLICE ARE SO CONVINCED
494
00:26:14,567 --> 00:26:18,067
THAT THE ANSWERS ARE WITH
THIS TEEN SPEEDWAY CROWD
495
00:26:18,067 --> 00:26:20,767
THAT THEY JUST, YOU KNOW,
KEEP GOING BACK TO THEM.
496
00:26:21,967 --> 00:26:25,000
THERE HAD TO BE SOMETHING THERE
THAT THE KIDS KNEW.
497
00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:26,900
IS THERE ANYTHING
THAT YOU'D LIKE TO TELL?
498
00:26:26,900 --> 00:26:27,900
I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING.
499
00:26:27,900 --> 00:26:29,533
WHAT DO YOU KNOW
ABOUT GRETCHEN?
500
00:26:29,533 --> 00:26:30,933
I DON'T KNOW
WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
501
00:26:30,933 --> 00:26:33,067
BUT THE KIDS WEREN'T TALKING.
502
00:26:34,267 --> 00:26:36,700
Dupnik: THE QUESTIONING WENT ON
FOR MONTHS,
503
00:26:36,700 --> 00:26:39,067
AND IT WENT ON VERY INTENSELY.
504
00:26:39,067 --> 00:26:42,267
YOU KNOW WITHHOLDING INFORMATION
IS PUNISHABLE BY JAIL TIME?!
505
00:26:42,267 --> 00:26:44,067
DON'T TALK TO MY SON THAT WAY.
LET'S GO.
506
00:26:44,067 --> 00:26:46,267
McNamara: THE PARENTS
ACTUALLY GOT A COURT ORDER
507
00:26:46,267 --> 00:26:48,667
TO STOP THE POLICE
FROM QUESTIONING THEIR KIDS.
508
00:26:54,633 --> 00:26:57,400
THE POLICE GOT VERY HEAVILY
EMOTIONALLY INVOLVED
509
00:26:57,400 --> 00:27:00,867
IN THIS CASE BECAUSE THEY WERE
SO FRUSTRATED.
510
00:27:00,867 --> 00:27:04,333
THERE JUST AREN'T
ANY MORE LEADS TO FOLLOW.
511
00:27:04,333 --> 00:27:08,967
McNamara:
YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES, CASES ARE BROKEN JUST BY A LUCKY BREAK...
512
00:27:08,967 --> 00:27:10,267
[ TELEPHONE RINGS ]
513
00:27:10,267 --> 00:27:12,400
...A LUCKY PHONE CALL.
514
00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:14,433
[ TELEPHONE RINGS ]
515
00:27:18,767 --> 00:27:21,600
THE PHONE RANG,
AND IT WAS RICHIE BRUNS.
516
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:24,467
RICHIE BRUNS --
517
00:27:24,467 --> 00:27:27,467
REMEMBER THAT GIRL
HE WAS OBSESSED WITH?
518
00:27:27,467 --> 00:27:30,533
WELL, THAT SITUATION
HAD GOTTEN WAY OUT OF CONTROL.
519
00:27:30,533 --> 00:27:34,567
DUE TO RICHIE'S
CONTINUAL HARASSMENT...
520
00:27:34,567 --> 00:27:39,067
Schafer: HE WAS SENT
BY THE LOCAL MUNICIPAL COURT
521
00:27:39,067 --> 00:27:41,133
TO OHIO ON PROBATION.
522
00:27:41,133 --> 00:27:43,333
McNamara:
WHERE HIS GRANDMOTHER LIVED.
523
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:50,133
Schafer: BUT HE HAD LASTED ONLY,
I THINK, A COUPLE OF DAYS.
524
00:27:50,133 --> 00:27:54,400
HE WAS AFRAID
THAT THE GIRL THAT HE LIKED
525
00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:55,967
WAS GONNA BE KILLED OR RAPED.
526
00:27:55,967 --> 00:27:57,767
I THINK HE WAS GENUINE
ABOUT THAT.
527
00:27:57,767 --> 00:28:02,267
CAN YOU CONNECT ME TO THE TUCSON
POLICE DEPARTMENT, PLEASE?
528
00:28:02,267 --> 00:28:05,400
YEAH, THIS IS, UH,
THIS IS RICHIE BRUNS.
529
00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:08,367
I HAVE SOME INFORMATION
ABOUT THE FRITZ GIRLS.
530
00:28:10,333 --> 00:28:13,900
YEAH, I'LL, UH, I'LL TELL YOU
EVERYTHING YOU NEED TO KNOW.
531
00:28:13,900 --> 00:28:17,100
CAN YOU JUST GET ME
BACK TO TUCSON, PLEASE?
532
00:28:25,733 --> 00:28:27,800
YOU'RE GONNA WANT
TO TURN LEFT UP HERE.
533
00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:30,633
Detective: UP HERE?
YEAH.
534
00:28:30,633 --> 00:28:33,400
Woman:
IT HAD BEEN OVER TWO MONTHS
535
00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:37,133
OF THE POLICE QUESTIONING US
AND HUNTING DOWN DEAD ENDS,
536
00:28:37,133 --> 00:28:40,133
AND THEN, OUT OF THE BLUE,
A CALL FROM RICHIE BRUNS
537
00:28:40,133 --> 00:28:42,400
FINALLY BROKE
THE WHOLE STORY OPEN.
538
00:28:45,567 --> 00:28:47,933
Schafer:
HE KNOWS WHAT HAPPENED,
539
00:28:47,933 --> 00:28:50,100
AND THE ONLY WAY
TO GET BACK TO TUCSON
540
00:28:50,100 --> 00:28:52,933
WAS TO TELL THE STORY
TO THE POLICE.
541
00:28:54,333 --> 00:28:59,000
IT ALL STARTED
WITH THE ALLEEN GIRL.
542
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:03,933
SHE WAS BLOND
AND PRETTY IN THE FACE.
543
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:24,500
McNamara:
RICHIE BRUNS TELLS POLICE
544
00:29:24,500 --> 00:29:28,133
CHARLIE GOT IT INTO HIS HEAD
THAT HE WANTED TO KILL A GIRL.
545
00:29:35,500 --> 00:29:38,967
HE WANTED TO SEE
WHAT IT FELT LIKE.
546
00:29:38,967 --> 00:29:41,500
HE THOUGHT THAT WOULD BE
EXCITING, A BIT OF A THRILL.
547
00:30:00,867 --> 00:30:03,967
AND MARY HELPED HIM DO IT.
548
00:30:03,967 --> 00:30:06,533
SHE'S GOT SCHOOL
TOMORROW.
549
00:30:06,533 --> 00:30:08,933
THIS WAS YOUR JOB.
550
00:30:08,933 --> 00:30:11,533
I'LL CALL HER.
551
00:30:11,533 --> 00:30:14,067
GET HER TO GO OUT
ON A DOUBLE DATE WITH JOHN.
552
00:30:14,067 --> 00:30:16,867
I'LL COME PICK YOU UP.
I'LL HAVE JOHN WITH ME.
553
00:30:16,867 --> 00:30:18,600
I WANT TO DO IT TONIGHT.
554
00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:20,467
I WANT HER.
555
00:30:20,467 --> 00:30:23,600
I LOVE YOU.
556
00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:26,400
WE NEED TO DO THIS.
557
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:28,067
YOU PROMISED ME.
558
00:30:28,067 --> 00:30:30,200
OKAY.
559
00:30:40,067 --> 00:30:42,900
THEY LURED ALLEEN OUT
BY INSISTING
560
00:30:42,900 --> 00:30:47,300
THAT SHE GO ON A DOUBLE DATE
WITH THIS GUY, JOHN SAUNDERS,
561
00:30:47,300 --> 00:30:49,000
WHO WAS A FRIEND OF CHARLIE'S.
562
00:30:55,933 --> 00:30:57,633
IT'S A BEAUTIFUL NIGHT.
563
00:30:57,633 --> 00:31:00,867
ALLEEN, YOU LIKE THIS PART
OF THE DESERT?
564
00:31:00,867 --> 00:31:02,600
YEAH,
IT'S REALLY BEAUTIFUL.
565
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:04,567
WHAT DO YOU LIKE
ABOUT IT?
566
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:10,267
IT'S...THE CALMNESS.
567
00:31:10,267 --> 00:31:12,900
ALLEEN WAS A NICE GIRL,
AND SHE TRUSTED MARY.
568
00:31:12,900 --> 00:31:15,433
THEY WERE NEIGHBORS,
AND THEY WERE FRIENDS.
569
00:31:15,433 --> 00:31:18,400
IT'S THE FARTHEST EDGE
OF INSANE,
570
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:22,533
BUT SOMEHOW CHARLIE SCHMID
HAD CONVINCED TWO OTHER KIDS
571
00:31:22,533 --> 00:31:25,200
TO LURE A GIRL TO HER MURDER --
572
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:29,933
MARY FRENCH AND JOHN SAUNDERS.
573
00:31:29,933 --> 00:31:32,133
THE POLICE WERE HUNTING
FOR A KILLER
574
00:31:32,133 --> 00:31:34,400
IN THE SPEEDWAY CROWD,
575
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:39,100
BUT FINDING A GROUP OF THEM --
THAT WAS TOUCHING EVIL.
576
00:31:39,100 --> 00:31:43,300
McNamara: CHARLIE WAS ABLE
TO MANIPULATE TROUBLED TEENS
577
00:31:43,300 --> 00:31:45,000
BECAUSE THEY BELIEVED
578
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:48,133
THAT HE THOUGHT
THAT THEY WERE SPECIAL.
579
00:31:48,133 --> 00:31:51,867
Schafer: THEY'D DO
WHATEVER HE WANTED THEM TO,
580
00:31:51,867 --> 00:31:53,567
AND BRUNS SAID THAT.
581
00:31:53,567 --> 00:31:55,700
I MEAN,
THAT'S AS COLD AS THE DEVIL,
582
00:31:55,700 --> 00:31:57,000
WHEN YOU THINK OF IT.
583
00:31:57,000 --> 00:32:01,167
I KNOW A GREAT SPOT, UH,
DOWN A LITTLE BIT.
584
00:32:01,167 --> 00:32:02,767
WOULD YOU LIKE
TO SEE IT?
585
00:32:02,767 --> 00:32:04,000
YEAH, SURE.
JOHN?
586
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:05,933
YEAH.
Mary: I'LL HANG HERE.
587
00:32:05,933 --> 00:32:08,867
I WANT TO LISTEN
TO THE RADIO.
588
00:32:08,867 --> 00:32:11,167
SUIT YOURSELF.
589
00:32:21,933 --> 00:32:25,267
Schafer:
SCHMID SAID, "RAPE HER."
590
00:32:25,267 --> 00:32:28,000
JOHN SAUNDERS COULDN'T DO IT,
591
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:31,400
AND SCHMID SAID,
"ALL RIGHT, I'LL DO IT."
592
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:33,433
AND HE RAPED HER.
593
00:32:36,300 --> 00:32:38,767
[ ALLEEN SCREAMING IN DISTANCE ]
594
00:32:40,467 --> 00:32:43,000
[ ROCK MUSIC PLAYING ON RADIO ]
595
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:48,400
McNamara: IN THE CAR,
MARY CAN HEAR THE SCREAMS.
596
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:50,333
[ SCREAMING CONTINUES ]
597
00:32:50,333 --> 00:32:54,367
Marsh: IT'S POSSIBLE THAT MARY
WAS SOMEWHAT CONFLICTED.
598
00:32:56,467 --> 00:33:01,933
HE TOOK A ROCK
AND HIT HER IN THE HEAD TWICE,
599
00:33:01,933 --> 00:33:03,700
AND THAT'S WHAT KILLED HER.
600
00:33:08,100 --> 00:33:11,200
I LOVE YOU SO MUCH.
I LOVE YOU SO MUCH.
601
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:12,867
MMM,
I LOVE YOU SO MUCH.
602
00:33:12,867 --> 00:33:15,100
WE GOT TO GET THE SHOVEL.
WE GOT WORK TO DO, BABY, OKAY?
603
00:33:15,100 --> 00:33:17,133
YEAH.
604
00:33:17,133 --> 00:33:19,533
[ ROCK MUSIC CONTINUES ]
605
00:33:19,533 --> 00:33:23,433
McNamara:
TOGETHER, THE THREE OF THEM BURY HER IN THE DESERT.
606
00:33:30,367 --> 00:33:33,567
HE WAS TELLING EVERYBODY
ABOUT WHAT HE DID TO HER.
607
00:33:33,567 --> 00:33:35,700
HE WAS EVEN BRAGGING
ABOUT IT.
608
00:33:37,867 --> 00:33:41,900
HE BRAGGED ABOUT KILLING ALLEEN
TO A NUMBER OF KIDS.
609
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:50,333
McNamara:
CHARLIE LOVED THE ADORATION FROM THIS TEEN CROWD.
610
00:33:50,333 --> 00:33:54,133
HE LIKED TO INSTILL FEAR
IN PEOPLE, TOO,
611
00:33:54,133 --> 00:33:56,967
AND PEOPLE WERE AFRAID OF HIM.
612
00:33:58,433 --> 00:34:01,867
BUT NOT EVERYONE WAS AFRAID,
613
00:34:01,867 --> 00:34:04,933
EVEN WHEN THEY
SHOULD HAVE BEEN.
614
00:34:04,933 --> 00:34:09,200
Marsh: GRETCHEN WAS, HERSELF,
PRETTY MENTALLY UNSTABLE.
615
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:12,000
HER APPROACH TO THAT DISCOVERY
616
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:15,000
WAS NOT THE NORMAL FEAR
AND RUNNING FOR THE POLICE.
617
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:20,000
Dupnik: BRUNS CLAIMED THAT
GRETCHEN HELD IT OVER HIS HEAD
618
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:23,300
TO EXTORT WHATEVER SHE WANTED
OUT OF CHARLIE SCHMID.
619
00:34:23,300 --> 00:34:28,000
IF CHARLIE THOUGHT GRETCHEN
WAS GONNA BE INTIMIDATED
620
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:31,067
BY THE ALLEEN STORY,
HE THOUGHT WRONG.
621
00:34:31,067 --> 00:34:33,267
GRETCHEN WASN'T
THAT KIND OF GIRL.
622
00:34:33,267 --> 00:34:37,067
FOR HER, IT WAS LEVERAGE --
THE PERFECT THREAT
623
00:34:37,067 --> 00:34:39,767
FOR WHENEVER CHARLIE
STEPPED OUT OF LINE.
624
00:34:39,767 --> 00:34:42,167
THAT WAS THE WAY
SHE WANTED TO MAKE USE
625
00:34:42,167 --> 00:34:44,933
OF THIS REALLY IMPORTANT PIECE
OF INFORMATION,
626
00:34:44,933 --> 00:34:46,533
WAS TO USE IT AS A WEAPON.
627
00:34:50,333 --> 00:34:54,667
AND THEN THE FRITZ FAMILY TOOK
THEIR VACATION TO SAN DIEGO.
628
00:34:54,667 --> 00:34:57,000
BUT INSTEAD OF DISTANCE
COOLING THINGS OFF,
629
00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:59,033
IT ONLY MADE THEM WORSE.
630
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:02,400
WHILE SHE WAS AWAY,
631
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:05,867
CHARLIE WAS LIVING IT UP
AND HAVING THESE PARTIES,
632
00:35:05,867 --> 00:35:08,500
AND WHEN GRETCHEN GOT WIND
OF THIS, SHE WAS REALLY UPSET.
633
00:35:08,500 --> 00:35:10,867
[ MOVIE SOUNDTRACK PLAYING ]
634
00:35:11,933 --> 00:35:14,633
WELL, DON'T WAIT. I'LL GROW UP,
AND I'LL NEVER GO.
635
00:35:14,633 --> 00:35:17,067
YOU HAVE TO MAKE DECISIONS
AND STICK TO THEM.
636
00:35:17,067 --> 00:35:18,867
IF YOU DON'T,
YOU NEVER GET ANYPLACE.
637
00:35:18,867 --> 00:35:21,967
HEY.
638
00:35:21,967 --> 00:35:23,733
I HEARD THERE'S
ANOTHER PARTY TONIGHT.
639
00:35:23,733 --> 00:35:25,867
YOU COMING?
640
00:35:25,867 --> 00:35:29,867
RICHIE BRUNS TELLS POLICE
THAT GRETCHEN WAS AT THE MOVIE.
641
00:35:29,867 --> 00:35:31,867
WE'RE GOING.
642
00:35:31,867 --> 00:35:33,333
I'LL SEE YOU
AT SMITTY'S.
643
00:35:33,333 --> 00:35:35,667
YEAH,
I'LL SEE YOU AT SMITTY'S.
644
00:35:35,667 --> 00:35:39,733
AND SHE HEARS
THAT CHARLIE'S HAVING A PARTY,
645
00:35:39,733 --> 00:35:41,467
WHICH JUST MAKES HER
REALLY ANGRY.
646
00:35:41,467 --> 00:35:43,867
I JUST TOLD GRETCHEN
WHAT I'D HEARD
647
00:35:43,867 --> 00:35:45,367
THAT NIGHT AT THE DRIVE-IN.
648
00:35:45,367 --> 00:35:47,400
"THERE'S A PARTY.
EVERYONE'S GONNA BE AT SMITTY'S."
649
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:49,867
[ ENGINE TURNS OVER ]
650
00:35:49,867 --> 00:35:51,967
I HAD NO IDEA IT WASN'T TRUE,
651
00:35:51,967 --> 00:35:55,600
OR THAT SOME STUPID WORDS
COMING OUT OF MY MOUTH
652
00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:57,300
COULD TURN SO AWFUL.
653
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:03,067
WHAT GIVES YOU THE IDEA THAT YOU
CAN DO WHAT YOU WANT TO DO?
654
00:36:03,067 --> 00:36:05,667
OH, MAYBE ALL THE GUYS
YOU SCREWED.
655
00:36:05,667 --> 00:36:08,267
NO, THAT IS EXACTLY NOT
WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
656
00:36:08,267 --> 00:36:09,433
YOU DIDN'T CONTACT ME,
657
00:36:09,433 --> 00:36:11,067
AND YOU'VE BEEN CONTACTING
OTHER GIRLS.
658
00:36:11,067 --> 00:36:13,000
WHAT IS --
WHAT IS THE PROBLEM THERE?
659
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:14,600
DO YOU SEE
THE PROBLEM THERE?
660
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:16,733
I DON'T SEE ANYTHING.
661
00:36:16,733 --> 00:36:18,767
INSTANTLY,
THEY JUST START FIGHTING.
662
00:36:18,767 --> 00:36:20,733
TELL ME WHAT YOU'RE DOING
WITH THESE OTHER GIRLS...
663
00:36:20,733 --> 00:36:22,067
TELL ME WHAT YOU'RE --
...INVITING THEM
664
00:36:22,067 --> 00:36:25,467
TO OTHER PARTIES AND NOT
TELLING ME ABOUT IT AT ALL?
665
00:36:25,467 --> 00:36:26,733
YOU ARE NOTHING!
666
00:36:26,733 --> 00:36:28,467
YOU ARE NOTHING,
OKAY?!
667
00:36:28,467 --> 00:36:29,867
[ Voice breaking ]
YOU'RE SUCH A PIECE OF SCUM!
668
00:36:29,867 --> 00:36:33,467
WHY ARE YOU DOING THIS TO ME?!
IT'S NOT OKAY!
669
00:36:33,467 --> 00:36:38,067
GRETCHEN WAS IMPULSIVE
AND AGGRESSIVE AND WILD.
670
00:36:38,067 --> 00:36:43,067
SHE LOVED LASHING OUT,
GETTING HER WAY.
671
00:36:44,867 --> 00:36:46,300
BUT SHE COULDN'T HAVE KNOWN
672
00:36:46,300 --> 00:36:48,733
THAT WHEN SHE TANGLED
WITH CHARLIE SCHMID,
673
00:36:48,733 --> 00:36:52,500
SHE WAS RUNNING INTO A DARKNESS
SHE'D NEVER ESCAPE.
674
00:36:55,133 --> 00:36:57,267
YOU KNOW WHO MY FATHER IS.
675
00:36:57,267 --> 00:37:02,467
YOU KNOW THAT IF I TOLD HIM
WHAT I KNOW ABOUT YOU...
676
00:37:02,467 --> 00:37:05,933
I COULD GET YOU
IN SO MUCH TROUBLE.
677
00:37:05,933 --> 00:37:09,200
WHAT DO YOU MEAN?
TELL HIM WHAT?
678
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:10,733
YOU KNOW WHAT.
679
00:37:14,167 --> 00:37:17,233
CHARLIE FELT LIKE
HE HAD TO ELIMINATE HER.
680
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:23,967
[ BOTH SCREAMING INDISTINCTLY ]
681
00:37:28,167 --> 00:37:33,867
Dupnik:
HE ALLEGEDLY GOT THE GUITAR STRING FROM HIS GUITAR
682
00:37:33,867 --> 00:37:37,133
AND USED IT
TO CHOKE HER TO DEATH...
683
00:37:37,133 --> 00:37:42,133
AND THEN HE WENT AND GOT WENDY
AND DID THE SAME THING TO HER.
684
00:37:42,133 --> 00:37:47,133
AND POOR WENDY --
SHE WAS ONLY 13.
685
00:37:47,133 --> 00:37:50,567
SHE JUST HAPPENED TO BE
WITH HER BIG SISTER THAT NIGHT,
686
00:37:50,567 --> 00:37:53,000
WHEN THAT LAST AWFUL FIGHT
HAPPENED.
687
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:57,400
Dupnik: HE THEN PUT THEM
IN THE TRUNK OF HIS AUTOMOBILE
688
00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:00,033
AND TOOK THEM OUT
TO THIS DESERT AREA
689
00:38:00,033 --> 00:38:01,867
IN THE FOOTHILLS OF TUCSON.
690
00:38:01,867 --> 00:38:06,533
McNamara: AND THEN HE CAME BACK,
AND HE DROVE GRETCHEN'S CAR
691
00:38:06,533 --> 00:38:09,467
AND LEFT IT
AT THE FLAMINGO HOTEL.
692
00:38:17,533 --> 00:38:19,867
YEAH, THAT'S HER,
RIGHT THERE.
693
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:25,667
SMITTY TOOK ME UP HERE,
694
00:38:25,667 --> 00:38:27,933
SAID WE HAD TO MOVE
THE BODIES.
695
00:38:27,933 --> 00:38:31,067
RICHIE EXPLAINS TO THE POLICE
THAT ABOUT THREE WEEKS
696
00:38:31,067 --> 00:38:32,633
AFTER THE FRITZ GIRLS
WENT MISSING...
697
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:36,667
RIGHT HERE.
RIGHT HERE.
698
00:38:36,667 --> 00:38:39,267
...CHARLIE TOOK HIM
OUT TO THE DESERT
699
00:38:39,267 --> 00:38:40,967
TO SHOW HIM
WHERE THE BODIES WERE.
700
00:38:43,867 --> 00:38:46,733
THAT'S GRETCHEN?
701
00:38:46,733 --> 00:38:48,733
YEAH.
702
00:38:48,733 --> 00:38:52,067
HE HELPED SCHMID DRAG THEM OUT
TO THE BURIAL SPOT.
703
00:38:53,933 --> 00:38:56,867
YOU KNOW, RICH...
704
00:38:56,867 --> 00:38:59,867
IT'S BETWEEN
YOU AND ME NOW.
705
00:38:59,867 --> 00:39:02,500
YOU CAN'T SAY ANYTHING.
706
00:39:03,933 --> 00:39:06,067
HE WAS QUITE AFRAID OF SCHMID.
707
00:39:06,067 --> 00:39:10,333
McNamara: POLICE HAD MADE A DEAL
WITH RICHIE
708
00:39:10,333 --> 00:39:12,467
THAT IN EXCHANGE
FOR THIS INFORMATION,
709
00:39:12,467 --> 00:39:15,967
HE WILL NOT BE CHARGED.
710
00:39:15,967 --> 00:39:19,867
CHARLIE WANTED ME
TO CALL ALLEEN, SO I DID.
711
00:39:19,867 --> 00:39:23,133
IT WAS ALL CHARLIE'S IDEA.
712
00:39:23,133 --> 00:39:26,167
McNamara: IN EXCHANGE
FOR REDUCED SENTENCING,
713
00:39:26,167 --> 00:39:28,067
MARY FRENCH AND JOHN SAUNDERS
714
00:39:28,067 --> 00:39:30,533
AGREE TO TESTIFY
AGAINST CHARLIE SCHMID.
715
00:39:33,267 --> 00:39:35,433
Dupnik:
ON THE 10th OF NOVEMBER,
716
00:39:35,433 --> 00:39:38,467
LIEUTENANT ROBLES AND I
PLACED HIM UNDER ARREST.
717
00:39:38,467 --> 00:39:44,000
AT THAT POINT, HE WAS
A DIFFERENT CHARLIE SCHMID.
718
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:46,633
HIS BEHAVIOR IS VERY BIZARRE.
719
00:39:46,633 --> 00:39:48,633
HE STUNK. HE WAS FILTHY.
720
00:39:48,633 --> 00:39:50,533
Marsh:
HE WORE PANCAKE MAKEUP.
721
00:39:50,533 --> 00:39:53,567
HE WORE REALLY HEAVY COATS
OF CHAP STICK ON HIS LIPS.
722
00:39:53,567 --> 00:39:55,667
HE WORE A BANDAGE
ACROSS HIS NOSE,
723
00:39:55,667 --> 00:39:58,067
AS IF HE HAD BEEN
IN SOME SORT OF FIGHT.
724
00:39:58,067 --> 00:40:01,667
AND HE HAD A BEAUTY MARK
ON HIS FACE
725
00:40:01,667 --> 00:40:05,133
THAT HE ACCENTUATED
WITH THIS BLACK, GREASY STUFF.
726
00:40:05,133 --> 00:40:08,733
HE SEEMED TO BELIEVE THAT
HE LOOKED LIKE ELVIS PRESLEY.
727
00:40:11,267 --> 00:40:15,067
Dupnik:
HE JUST WOULDN'T TALK TO US.
728
00:40:15,067 --> 00:40:18,133
HE WAS IN ALMOST LIKE A TRANCE.
729
00:40:18,133 --> 00:40:21,567
AT THAT POINT, HE WAS PROBABLY
ON THE VERGE OF CRACKING UP.
730
00:40:21,567 --> 00:40:23,667
CHARLIE HAD JUST BEEN PLAYING
731
00:40:23,667 --> 00:40:26,333
AT THE "BITCHIN' SMITTY"
CHARACTER ALL ALONG,
732
00:40:26,333 --> 00:40:27,667
BUT NOW IT WAS OVER.
733
00:40:27,667 --> 00:40:30,600
HE LOOKED LIKE SOME KIND
OF GROTESQUE CLOWN.
734
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:33,100
BUT IT WASN'T FUNNY
FOR ANY OF US.
735
00:40:33,100 --> 00:40:37,067
IT FELT MORE LIKE WE'D BEEN
DANCING WITH THE DEVIL.
736
00:40:37,067 --> 00:40:39,800
Marsh:
HE WAS SO GOOD AT BEING PHONY.
737
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:42,267
Schafer:
HE HAD RECORDINGS
738
00:40:42,267 --> 00:40:44,933
OF ONE OF THE GOOD
GUITAR PLAYERS IN TOWN.
739
00:40:44,933 --> 00:40:47,200
Marsh: AND THEN HE PUT
THE TAPE RECORDER
740
00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:49,267
UNDER A CABINET
THAT HE HAD MADE.
741
00:40:49,267 --> 00:40:51,400
Schafer:
BUT HE WASN'T PLAYING AT ALL.
742
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:53,633
ALL THE THINGS
THAT CHARLIE DID,
743
00:40:53,633 --> 00:40:56,367
WHEN YOU STEP BACK
AND LOOK AT THEM TODAY,
744
00:40:56,367 --> 00:40:58,133
WE'D CALL HIM A PSYCHOPATH.
745
00:40:58,133 --> 00:41:00,067
BUT IN 1965,
746
00:41:00,067 --> 00:41:02,867
THAT WASN'T THE KIND OF MONSTER
ANYBODY KNEW ABOUT YET.
747
00:41:02,867 --> 00:41:05,067
Marsh: PEOPLE WHO ARE
PSYCHOPATHIC, IN MANY CASES,
748
00:41:05,067 --> 00:41:06,567
SEEM MORE ALIVE,
749
00:41:06,567 --> 00:41:08,233
MORE CHARISMATIC,
MORE INTERESTING.
750
00:41:08,233 --> 00:41:13,867
BUT THAT MASK CONCEALS
A REAL INNER DEADNESS,
751
00:41:13,867 --> 00:41:15,900
WHERE HE WAS
A GRANDIOSE NARCISSIST
752
00:41:15,900 --> 00:41:18,733
AT THE CENTER OF THINGS
WHO WAS ABLE TO MANIPULATE
753
00:41:18,733 --> 00:41:21,600
TEENAGERS WHO WERE
LOOKING FOR GUIDANCE.
754
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:26,067
THAT WAS THE MOST AMAZING PART
OF IT ALL, THAT THIS GUY --
755
00:41:26,067 --> 00:41:31,200
CHARMING, YES, EXCITING, SURE,
BUT STILL JUST A GUY --
756
00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:34,567
GOT A GROUP OF KIDS TO STAND BY
757
00:41:34,567 --> 00:41:38,533
WHILE HE KILLED THREE PEOPLE
AND GOT AWAY WITH IT.
758
00:41:38,533 --> 00:41:44,200
Marsh: HE EVEN HAD THE NICKNAME
"THE PIED PIPER OF TUCSON."
759
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:46,533
Schafer:
YOU EXPECT AT SOME POINT,
760
00:41:46,533 --> 00:41:48,933
SOMEBODY'S CONSCIENCE
IS GONNA SAY,
761
00:41:48,933 --> 00:41:51,333
"NO, I'VE GOT TO TELL
WHAT I KNOW."
762
00:41:51,333 --> 00:41:53,867
NOBODY SAID ANYTHING, NOTHING.
763
00:41:55,867 --> 00:41:59,133
IT'S A BETTER STORY TO SAY
THERE WAS SOMETHING TERRIBLE
764
00:41:59,133 --> 00:42:00,633
ABOUT OUR CROWD
OUT ON SPEEDWAY,
765
00:42:00,633 --> 00:42:02,767
THAT WE WERE BAD KIDS,
766
00:42:02,767 --> 00:42:04,433
BUT THE TRUTH MIGHT BE SCARIER.
767
00:42:04,433 --> 00:42:06,567
THERE WAS NOTHING GOING ON
IN TUCSON
768
00:42:06,567 --> 00:42:08,200
THAT COULDN'T HAPPEN ANYWHERE.
769
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:11,667
ADOLESCENCE IS THE TIME PERIOD
THE PARTS OF YOUR BRAIN
770
00:42:11,667 --> 00:42:16,433
THAT GOVERN REWARD SEEKING
AND CURIOUSLY ARE REALLY ACTIVE.
771
00:42:16,433 --> 00:42:19,400
HOWEVER, THE PREFRONTAL PARTS
OF THE BRAIN
772
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:22,133
THAT GOVERN IMPULSE CONTROL
ARE UNDERDEVELOPED,
773
00:42:22,133 --> 00:42:23,867
AND THAT CREATES TROUBLE.
774
00:42:23,867 --> 00:42:26,033
THE PARTS OF THE WORLD
775
00:42:26,033 --> 00:42:27,600
THAT HAVE THE HIGHEST RATES
OF VIOLENCE ARE OFTEN THOSE
776
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:29,267
THAT HAVE THE HIGHEST PROPORTION
OF ADOLESCENTS.
777
00:42:29,267 --> 00:42:32,700
WE ALL DO CRAZY THINGS
GROWING UP.
778
00:42:32,700 --> 00:42:34,633
I BET YOU DID, TOO.
779
00:42:34,633 --> 00:42:37,200
GRETCHEN FRITZ
WAS JUST DATING BOYS
780
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:39,733
AND HAVING DRAMAS
WITH HER FRIENDS.
781
00:42:39,733 --> 00:42:41,733
FOR TEENAGERS, CRAZY IS NORMAL,
782
00:42:41,733 --> 00:42:44,267
AND THAT'S ALL
IT WOULD HAVE BEEN...
783
00:42:44,267 --> 00:42:46,133
IF A PIED PIPER HADN'T COME
784
00:42:46,133 --> 00:42:48,467
AND PLAYED HIS SONG
IN OUR TOWN.
785
00:42:48,467 --> 00:42:50,500
[ "HOUSE OF THE RISING SUN"
PLAYS ]
786
00:42:52,033 --> 00:42:59,000
* THERE IS A HOUSE
IN NEW ORLEANS *
787
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:04,467
* THEY CALL THE RISING SUN *
788
00:43:04,467 --> 00:43:11,133
* AND IT'S BEEN THE RUIN
OF MANY A POOR BOY *
789
00:43:11,133 --> 00:43:15,967
* AND ME, OH, GOD, I'M ONE *
790
00:43:16,017 --> 00:43:20,567
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