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Diana, Princess of Wales has died.
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This is according to British
sources.
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The most photographed woman in
the world has died
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trying not to have her photo taken.
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That doesn't make sense.
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Around half the population is now
surfing cyberspace.
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So, just what is everyone
doing online?
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It's very difficult to defeat
a conspiracy theory.
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Rubbish, cover up,
definitely a cover-up.
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I think it's a little bit suspicious
for an accident.
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In a fine example
of British legal understatement,
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the coroner said he was mindful that
there was some speculation in
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some quarters that this might not
have been a simple car accident.
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There's so many coincidences,
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so many odd things
that just don't add up.
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Why would someone want to kill
the Princess of Wales?
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85% of the ordinary people
of this country
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believe Diana was murdered
with my son.
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PHONE RINGS
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I remember vividly that
we were having a seminar
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and I got a text from my office at
Scotland Yard which said that,
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"You've been asked to do
the inquiry...
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"..into the death of Princess
Diana,"
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and I thought, surely that means the
Metropolitan Police are doing it.
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I rang up and they said,
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"No, you've been asked to do,
by the Royal Coroner,
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"to do this personally",
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which was unprecedented
for the Commission
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to an inquiry of that nature.
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I knew from the very beginning
of this enquiry
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it was going to be
exceptionally difficult.
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The allegation is that
the most popular woman
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in the world has been murdered by
the Queen's husband
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together with MI6.
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That's very serious stuff.
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I remember the newspaper headlines,
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I also remember what was coming over
the television and the radio
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and it was obvious that 85% of
the population believed that
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there was a conspiracy.
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Even relatives of mine said
there's something behind this
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and someone's murdered her.
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That was part of the decision
for me to do it, actually,
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because, at the end of the day,
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we had to get to
the bottom of what went on here.
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What we're investigating was
a conspiracy to murder.
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It's not gonna be a
quick and easy inquiry.
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You know, people immediately said
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Lord Stevens is part of the
establishment,
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he's gonna find that there's
nothing in there.
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But in actual fact,
there were some things
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in the conspiracy allegations that
needed to be sorted out.
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Well, we got together, and we
decided that we were going
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to look at every single allegation
that had been made.
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Every single one -
it was 104 allegations.
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I can probably best liken it,
when I first looked at it,
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to like...as a mountain in front
of you,
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it was just a mountain and I
remember the whiteboard
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at Scotland Yard where we tried
to break down the allegations
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into areas or themes.
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"Royal Family,"
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"engagement,"
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"pregnancy,"
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you know, "MI6,"
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"blood," "a collision"...
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Each of those was allocated
to one of the team.
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That's the only way we could do it,
cos if you left one allegation out,
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the whole house would come
tumbling down.
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One allegation would affect
our credibility,
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if it wasn't proved
one way or the other.
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Lord Stevens had told us right at
the beginning...
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"Go where the evidence takes you."
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"Step-by-step, eventually,
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"you'll get to the top of the
mountain."
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I've been screaming for the last
five years that what happened
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to Dodi and Diana is absolute
100% murder by these dark forces
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which...the intelligence services.
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At the beginning of Paget,
it could have looked like quite
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a lot of lazy people sitting around
an office watching TV
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because the team were looking at
everything we could find.
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There was...
HE CHUCKLES
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..an awful lot
of that material out there.
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You believe there was
a conspiracy...to kill Dodi?
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Definitely, they been murdered.
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Dodi and Diana been murdered,
definitely.
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Go and find the evidence,
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if there's evidence of a conspiracy,
go and follow it.
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Who would want them dead?
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70, 80, 90% of the population
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thought there was something in it,
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partly because they were hearing
the media's view of it
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and I'm not here to comment on
the media one way or another,
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but they were hearing
the media's view.
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Should I sit in any particular way?
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Stomach in, tits out? Sit how
you're comfortable. All right.
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Well, it was so much fun while
Diana was alive, she kept us all in,
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you know, fancy cars
and nice clothes.
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We could get away with anything,
we could hack anybody's phone,
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you know, break into their house
and nick pictures,
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whatever we wanted -
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and then Diana died,
and as the fun stopped,
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and circulation... "doof",
fell off a cliff as well.
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Diana sold so many papers,
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we kind of wanted to keep her
going...
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..keep her alive in a way.
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The Mirror chose today
to publish the full text of
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a letter Diana gave Paul Burrell.
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In his book, the name of the man she
suspected of conspiring to kill her
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was blacked out -
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today, it was revealed
she'd written, "my husband".
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Mr Burrell is there anything you'd
like to say? Anything at all?
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Paul Burrell's aware this will go
down in history.
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It's the...very precise nature of
what she says.
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A "accident" in my car.
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What that headline is saying,
and that note,
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is that Princess of Wales,
in 1995, feared there might be
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a plan to get rid of her
in an accident.
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You can't dismiss that
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because two years later,
she died in a car accident.
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What it meant for the Metropolitan
Police was that
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here was a piece of evidence,
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there's actually
a letter in existence.
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At that time, there was a lot in
the media about, you know,
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there's three in the marriage and,
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this thought that Camilla
was usurping
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the Princess of Wales.
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We wanted to know exactly
what was behind that note.
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How did Mr Burrell come by it?
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Whether you like Mr Burrell
or not is immaterial.
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He was at the centre of her life.
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All I can tell you is behind
closed doors...
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..I was looking after my friend.
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She was called Diana.
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I understood her fight
and her struggles,
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and I knew where all
the enemies were.
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And they were all coming
for us at the same time,
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whether it's the
Queen's household or...
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..Prince Philip's household or
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the Prince of Wales' household,
they were all...
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..against us.
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And what I wanted to do
with the book was to
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defend the Princess' memory.
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Crumbs!
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It's a difficult one for me cos I
know why he published it,
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and I know what he got
for publishing it.
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But I can't tell you how I know.
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It's a substantial...
Substantial amount of money.
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The police wanted to see the note,
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which is a private note,
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but I thought it was of
national importance
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and they should see it,
to know how vulnerable she was,
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how frightened she was and how
marginalised she was.
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"I am sitting here at my desk
today in October,
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"longing for someone to hug me
and encourage me to keep strong."
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The Princess wrote all her letters
at her writing desk -
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a kneehole desk,
I can see it now...
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..with her letter rack in front,
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the alabaster statue of Christ
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with rosary beads around it,
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pictures of the boys...
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"This particular phase in my life is
the most..."
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underlined, "..dangerous."
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She always wrote
with blue black ink,
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cream stationery
with a red edge
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and a "D" and coronet...
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..central at the top.
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"My husband is planning...an
accident...in my car.
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"Brake failure
and serious head injury
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"in order to make the path clear
for him to marry Tiggy.
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"Camilla is nothing but a decoy."
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Which... This did surprise me.
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Tiggy was Tiggy Legge-Bourke who was
the nanny for the two Princes.
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That's what Diana believed at
the time -
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she'd been told by somebody
that Tiggy Legge-Bourke
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was having an affair with
the Prince of Wales.
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Hi, thank you... Sorry!
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That year, at Christmas,
at the lunch party,
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the princess approached her
and said to her,
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"I'm so sorry, Tiggy, to hear
about your loss of the baby."
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Someone had told the Princess that
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Tiggy Legge-Bourke had had
an abortion.
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Who was feeding the princess lies?
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"My husband's planning
to get rid of me".
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That's what Diana wrote.
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So, clearly, in her mind,
at the end of October 1995,
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for whatever reason,
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this is what she wrote down as
her thoughts.
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We knew, at some point, we were
gonna have to deal with this.
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We were gonna have to go and see
the Prince of Wales.
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The allegation had
to be investigated,
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whether it's the future
King of England, Prince Charles,
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or anyone else,
you have to go there.
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No-one is above the law.
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He couldn't possibly be responsible
for the murder of his former wife.
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That would be the end
of the monarchy.
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The thing for me that was really
worrying was the fact that
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this incident had happened years
before,
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it happened in a foreign
jurisdiction.
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We had to get our hands on
the evidence,
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we had to speak
to witnesses over there.
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It was gonna be
very, very, very complex.
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That was a very, very important day,
for me, personally,
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to see the actual scene,
to get a feel for it all.
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Unless you do that, you know,
you're not doing your job properly.
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But I just have a simple job
to do with my officers.
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We will do that job, and I think
that my record speaks for itself.
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We will get to the bottom
of this one way or the other.
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The collision investigation,
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you look at the scene,
everything that happened there,
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all the technical stuff,
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was vital to understand while
we went forward cos that's fact,
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we, you know...
Let's look at the tyre marks,
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let's look at the debris,
let's look at the distances.
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So, I wanted the best collision
investigator we could find.
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Well, I think my first trip
to Paris was with...
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..Sir John Stevens.
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A traffic PC doesn't usually
get to speak to people like that.
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It was just really quite surreal.
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And it carried on being surreal
in that way
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all the way through to the end.
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You cannot really look
at a crash scene afterwards
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and get the same sense of feeling as
you do when you're standing there,
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and it's all laid out
in front of you.
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I drove the route quite a few times.
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The biggest thing that struck me
is that there was a very...distinct
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and quite sharp transition from
being almost level road
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down into the underpass and
the slope into it was quite steep.
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This was a challenging bit of road,
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especially if you were
driving at some speed.
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We needed to identify what
had been done by the French,
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if what had been done could
have been done better.
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The photographs were unhelpful.
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As you can see in these,
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all the police vehicles are parked
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on the right-hand side of the road,
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more or less at the start of
the debris.
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And I think it was established,
subsequently,
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that not all the debris
was collected.
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Cos where the debris was,
it gives us an idea as
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to where the point of impact
between the two vehicles occurred.
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We looked at the new techniques
that were available,
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such as the laser scanning and
computer modelling and animation,
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to help us understand the movement
of the vehicle
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as it entered the underpass
and leading up to the crash.
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There were a number of allegations
concerning the car itself
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which hadn't necessarily been
fully addressed
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by the French investigation
and so it was important,
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very important, for us to
get our hands on the car -
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otherwise, the overall collision
investigation report
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would've been incomplete which
couldn't be allowed to happen.
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Who would want them dead?
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And why would anyone wanna
kill Dodi and Diana?
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Because they still
don't accept that Dodi,
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my son, an Egyptian or Muslim,
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can be the stepfather
of the future King.
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My main area was to speak to
the friends and acquaintances
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of Diana, Princess of Wales
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to find out whether she
was pregnant,
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..whether she was getting engaged...
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..whether she had any
security concerns.
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For the most part of it, I was the
only female detective, yeah.
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It was such a high-profile case
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that there was that
added weight that nothing
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in this investigation
could get leaked to anyone.
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There was massive pressure on
from the press
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to actually talk about
what we were doing.
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Looking for a scoop,
looking for who we were seeing,
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what our conclusions were.
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If something had come out
which was confidential,
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I think, you know, our credibility
with the French would have gone,
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our credibility with
the Royal Family...
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..and with Mohamed would have gone.
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You also believe, Mohamed, strongly,
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that Diana was pregnant at
the time that she died, don't you?
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This was 100%.
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How can you be sure of that?
Because she told me herself
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and Dodi told me,
I know this personally.
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We had really no evidence
to support what he was alleging,
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but he claimed that this was
a picture of her pregnant.
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So, we had to see whether
there was any truth in that.
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It was about motive because it could
have been,
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as was being suggested
by Mr Al-Fayed,
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that the Royal Family
didn't necessarily want
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a Muslim baby within their family.
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It was a simple question -
when was the photograph taken?
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Because it's all on
the timeline then.
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Mohamed Al-Fayed's villa where
the princess and her sons
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are holiday guests -
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time to enjoy the Riviera sun.
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I recall trawling through
thousands of photographs
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to find that photograph.
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This photograph was taken on
the 14th of July,
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and The Express itself says
this was published on the 15th,
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the photograph was taken
the day before, the 14th.
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Dodi didn't arrive
in Saint Tropez
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at the family villa until
the 14th of July, late.
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So, this photograph,
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clearly taken during the daytime,
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was taken even before
that relationship started.
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If this had been on
the 14th of August,
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and you said, "Well, she'd been with
Dodi for a month now" then fine,
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but I'm no gynaecologist, but I know
that before you've met someone,
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you can't be showing signs
of pregnancy.
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There were no secrets
with Mr Al-Fayed,
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there was absolutely no point in
trying
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to keep anything away from him.
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It was my job to tell him what we
were doing and take him through
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what progress we were making and
where the evidence was taking us.
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We used to come in on
the side entrance there.
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We were met by his bodyguards
and his security detail.
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We had a control room
which was based, really,
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on a police control room, so it was
quite a sophisticated business.
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And Mr Al-Fayed would just walk into
the room,
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reinforce his view that his
son was murdered
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and so was the Princess of Wales.
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Lord Stevens listened.
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I think what Lord Stevens did,
was I think he dialled down
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his own personality,
his own character when he went in
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and realised this is not a contest
about who is most important.
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He was a character.
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On one occasion, he gave me a
Viagra.
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He said, "This will help your
love life."
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I didn't need any help
with my sex life, as it happened.
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And then, about three
or four weeks...
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Four weeks later, he gave me
a bull's testicles.
325
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Here... You know, it was quite
a strange thing to do really.
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Inside the Ritz, Diana and Dodi
had dinner in the Imperial Suite.
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And then they called me
and say, "What's happening?"
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And then, "We're having dinner, and
after that, going to the apartment.
329
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"And, we'll be coming back on
Sunday", and on Monday,
330
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they will declare their engagement.
331
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Did Dodi tell you that?
Did Diana tell you that?
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Dodi told me that,
and Diana told me that,
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on Saturday evening at ten o'clock.
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The only evidence,
and I'll call it that,
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was Mohamed Al-Fayed
saying that he had a conversation
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with Diana in which she said she was
engaged to Dodi Al Fayed,
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and she was pregnant.
338
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How can we prove that? How do we
check that that's actually correct?
339
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If we go to Saturday 30th of August,
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when Dodi and the Princess
were in Paris...
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..Dodi Al Fayed purchased a ring
from Repossi's shop
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in Place Vendome next to
the Ritz Hotel.
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A "tell me yes"
ring, "dis-moi oui".
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We do know that that ring was
found later,
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in a case in Dodi's apartment
in Rue Arsene Houssaye.
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The key issue for us, looking
at that,
347
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was, "What did the Princess of Wales
know about that ring?"
348
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Had she seen it? Had she known the
significance of it?
349
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And was there any evidence
of talk of an engagement?
350
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Alberto Repossi said that when
Dodi and Diana were in Monte Carlo,
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that they had seen a ring at
the Repossi jeweller's there.
352
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They were definitely
going to buy that ring,
353
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and so, Mr Repossi was saying that
it was the wrong size.
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And so, it went off to,
I believe, an Italian factory
355
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to get sized during the summer,
they had to open up the factory
356
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because normally things shut down
for the month of August.
357
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I would never say a witness is lying
358
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just because the facts
don't all match up.
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What I'm saying is that what Mr
Repossi said in his statements to us
360
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didn't line up with
the facts as we knew them.
361
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He said that the ring had gone off
to Turin for resizing
362
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with his brother, that didn't
happen, just didn't happen.
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And Mr Repossi said,
"Yes, I will go back now,
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"and I'll find all the documentation
that showed what happened
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to this "Tell Me Yes" ring and
didn't produce a single thing.
366
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No evidence, nothing at all.
367
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Sometimes you have to look
at why are they saying it?
368
00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:19,760
What is the driving force
for them saying this?
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People say things sometimes
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because they think it's
the right thing to say,
371
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people say things because actually
somebody else
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would like me to say that.
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That is beautiful.
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This is the ring, picked up
in Paris the afternoon they died.
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For Mohamed, $700,000 worth
of proof positive
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that his son and Princess Diana
were serious about marriage.
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Scotland Yard.
378
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They asked me a lot of questions.
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I never heard of
the ring until that night.
380
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They came into the apartment to have
a little hors d'oeuvres
381
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because they were going into
the Ritz for dinner.
382
00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:08,920
Dodi Fayed came to my quarters,
383
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he said, "Rene, have champagne on
ice ready
384
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"because when we come back
around midnight,
385
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"I'm going to propose to
the princess",
386
00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:21,320
and he reached into his pocket,
387
00:27:21,360 --> 00:27:23,360
he took the box and he showed me.
388
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He felt...comfortable...
389
00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:31,480
..to propose to her.
390
00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:32,640
And...
391
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..I think she would have said yes.
392
00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:44,800
In 2004, I took a phone call from
someone at Scotland Yard.
393
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He said, "Well, we know that
you spoke to the Princess
394
00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:49,840
"in the hours before her death,
395
00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:52,320
"we want to talk
to you about that conversation."
396
00:27:52,360 --> 00:27:55,040
I felt an obligation to help.
397
00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:56,920
She and I were friends.
398
00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:58,680
She'd called me from Paris,
399
00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:01,280
we'd had a conversation,
she was coming home,
400
00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:03,400
and she was looking forward
to coming home,
401
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:06,560
she was desperately
missing William and Harry.
402
00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:09,960
The police wanted to know if
the Princess had said to me
403
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:12,320
whether she had become engaged,
404
00:28:12,360 --> 00:28:15,160
and I said, "Absolutely not."
405
00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:18,240
She had said, as she pretty much
said to all the friends,
406
00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:21,080
and she always had a particular way
of saying this, I mean,
407
00:28:21,120 --> 00:28:23,440
"I need a new...
Another marriage like...
408
00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:24,960
"Like a rash on my face."
409
00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:37,080
I wrote the last story,
whilst she was still alive,
410
00:28:37,120 --> 00:28:38,480
at the News of the World.
411
00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:43,400
So, I get sent down
412
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to try and buy up some of
the crew on the boat,
413
00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:48,560
so I've got a bag
with 10,000 quid in it,
414
00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:50,120
and we actually get the first mate
415
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:53,240
and so he was quite
a good coup you know,
416
00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:55,440
cos he watched them,
he spoke to them,
417
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:57,200
so it's like, "Great!
Well, you know...
418
00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:59,120
"So, how did they rock
the love boat?
419
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:01,800
"Did they make love so passionately?
Did it move in the water?"
420
00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:04,120
So that's the kind of line
I'm going for.
421
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:07,040
"Did they run across the State Room
with no clothes on?
422
00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:09,840
"Did they go skinny dipping at 3am?"
All that stuff.
423
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:12,800
And he said, "No nothing happened
at all."
424
00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:17,040
He called her "ma'am,"
they sat at other ends of the table,
425
00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:19,720
she had her bedroom, when the kids
were there,
426
00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:22,520
not even a peck on the cheek,
then when the kids left...
427
00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:26,520
..it was the same,
but I wasn't allowed to print that
428
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:30,400
cos that wasn't what anyone wanted
to read back in the day.
429
00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:33,920
There was an expression in
newspapers about making it work,
430
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:35,640
"Yeah, just make it work".
431
00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:38,200
It's almost like, "Make it happen,"
it's not, "Make it up,"
432
00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:40,160
it's not quite the same as,
"Make it up."
433
00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:42,480
But, "Here's a story,
let's just make it work,
434
00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:45,960
"make it sound believable,
make it sound possible."
435
00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:59,920
My belief is that the Princess
of Wales never saw that ring.
436
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:09,080
I think that Dodi Al Fayed was
going to present that ring
437
00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:10,440
later that night.
438
00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:15,520
Dodi didn't get the chance
to ask the Princess of Wales
439
00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:16,560
to get engaged.
440
00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:35,320
Within the last hour, it's been
announced that Prince Charles
441
00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:37,640
is to marry his long-term partner,
442
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:38,960
Camilla Parker-Bowles.
443
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:42,680
How you feeling, ma'am?
444
00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:46,800
Did he get down on one knee
to propose?
445
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:49,680
THEY LAUGH
446
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:54,440
Charles and Camilla have lived
more-or-less as man and wife
447
00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:58,000
for the past three or four years,
and this was an inevitable step.
448
00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:00,040
They'll hope things will be
clearer now,
449
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:01,680
even if they do not underestimate
450
00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:05,400
the challenge of selling this
marriage to a sceptical public.
451
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:12,240
So, we were given permission
to bring the Mercedes
452
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:13,400
back to the UK.
453
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:16,520
The Mercedes was in
two containers,
454
00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:20,240
in a vehicle scrapyard
on the outskirts of Paris.
455
00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:25,000
While we were loading
the shipping containers,
456
00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:27,000
you could see paparazzi in
457
00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:29,320
the surrounding flats
taking photographs.
458
00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:36,080
We were followed all the way from
Paris to the Channel.
459
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:45,040
When we got out at Dover on
the other side of the Channel,
460
00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:48,240
they were in the lay-by
on the A2 waiting for us.
461
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:04,160
RADIO: Delighted for the Prince of
Wales and Camilla Parker-Bowles.
462
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:08,280
It's very happy news,
we all wish them every happiness.
463
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:10,160
The general consensus is
464
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:13,320
not a lot of people have a
lot against Camilla,
465
00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:14,600
but she's just not Diana.
466
00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:19,560
Diana was still dominating
the news agenda
467
00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:21,240
around the Royal Family,
468
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:26,000
I mean, they were desperate
to move on and start again.
469
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:29,040
In life, Diana had,
if not tormented them,
470
00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:31,480
she had caused them
an awful lot of trouble
471
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:34,720
and certainly, she had
continued to haunt them.
472
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:39,320
You know, she famously said
she wasn't going quietly
473
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:41,840
and, boy, that was so true.
474
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:06,320
During our examination of the car,
there were parts of the carpet
475
00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:08,120
that had been removed.
476
00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:12,040
And one part from...
477
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:15,040
..Princess Diana's side
was heavily blood stained.
478
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:21,280
Now, the importance of that blood is
it was pre-transfusion blood,
479
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:23,600
it was pure blood
from the Princess.
480
00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:25,520
This was picked up by somebody else
481
00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:30,080
as to whether that might be
useful in looking to see
482
00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:34,080
if the question about her being
pregnant could be answered.
483
00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:39,280
We actually DNA'd it, first of all,
484
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:41,840
to make sure this was
the Princess' blood
485
00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:45,720
and then Professor David Cowan did
some very sophisticated tests
486
00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:46,880
on the blood.
487
00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:49,720
David Cowan came back and said,
488
00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:53,560
"Up to a certain level, all I can
tell you is she wasn't pregnant.
489
00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:56,760
"If she was pregnant
by a short degree,
490
00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:58,080
"it wouldn't pick them up."
491
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:01,520
But it just shows
the lengths we went to.
492
00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:07,520
I interviewed Rosa Monkton who was
a very good friend of Diana's
493
00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:09,960
and she was to say that
she could have not possibly
494
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:13,600
have been pregnant because
of conversations...they'd had
495
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:15,200
just a few days before.
496
00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:19,160
I don't really want to talk about
her period and stuff,
497
00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:21,480
I just don't feel that's...
You know.
498
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:24,800
The thing about pregnancy
499
00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:28,080
and the details about Diana's body
were the most unpleasant part
500
00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:30,440
of what we did, to be frank.
501
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:33,760
We had to go into intimate details
of her sexual life,
502
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:37,760
intimate details of, you know,
the body clock, so to speak.
503
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:40,080
I can understand anyone saying,
504
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:43,000
"Well, why do you have to do that
and go into the personal details?"
505
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:45,160
but to actually ensure
that these allegations
506
00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:47,920
were investigated properly,
to go where the evidence took us,
507
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:49,680
you had to do it.
508
00:34:49,720 --> 00:34:53,800
It was very important we didn't
leave any stone unturned.
509
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:56,320
We were going to go through
a legal process
510
00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:58,200
in the Coroner's Court
511
00:34:58,240 --> 00:34:59,960
in front of a jury,
512
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:03,560
which would be
extremely stressful and difficult.
513
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:09,680
The British system of criminal
justice is a tragic failure.
514
00:35:10,720 --> 00:35:13,440
There are those who say that with
a little tinkering here or there
515
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:16,080
these failures can be prevented.
They can't.
516
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:19,520
My name's Michael Mansfield,
517
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:24,880
I was contacted to represent
Mohamed Al Fayed.
518
00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:30,360
Michael Mansfield, we all know,
is a very clever individual.
519
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:34,280
He specialised in criminal law
for 25 years,
520
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:36,720
founded law centres
and human rights groups,
521
00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:38,480
he's successfully defended
522
00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:42,080
a large number of major cases where
civil liberties have been at stake.
523
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:46,600
We were up against it.
524
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:49,920
You had Michael Mansfield,
one of the best defence councils,
525
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:52,200
I admire the man, in
terms of his ability,
526
00:35:52,240 --> 00:35:54,600
with his legal team, looking at
every single aspect
527
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:56,080
of what we had done and did.
528
00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:01,880
The basic question was,
what's gone on here?
529
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:13,800
Princess Diana was right about the
fact she was actually going to meet
530
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:16,240
an untimely occurrence.
531
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:19,640
So, I started asking myself,
"Who benefits from this?"
532
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:22,200
and I started to think, "Well, I can
think of all sorts of people
533
00:36:22,240 --> 00:36:23,720
"who might benefit."
534
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:30,240
Diana had not exactly
ingratiated herself
535
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:31,600
with the Royal Family.
536
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:36,560
Maybe it was a pure accident,
537
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:40,200
but I found that difficult
to believe from the beginning
538
00:36:40,240 --> 00:36:44,480
and I thought,
"This doesn't add up."
539
00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:55,000
I wasn't frightened of
the establishment,
540
00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:57,600
the decision was made
to see Prince Charles
541
00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:01,000
because of the Burrell letter and
the allegations made in that letter.
542
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:06,200
Princess Diana had stated that she
was going to be murdered
543
00:37:06,240 --> 00:37:07,400
by her husband.
544
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:12,280
We had to see whether
there was any substance to that
545
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:15,040
and we had to have his reply to it.
546
00:37:22,240 --> 00:37:25,400
I'm sure nothing like that had ever
happened before,
547
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:27,280
so that was unprecedented.
548
00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:35,200
I'd never been to St James' Palace
before.
549
00:37:35,240 --> 00:37:38,120
I don't know the right term -
a footman, a butler,
550
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:39,480
guided us through.
551
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:42,440
I do remember there were...
552
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:47,160
..some of the rooms were ready for
a Christmas party as we walked past
553
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:48,840
cos it was early December.
554
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:51,280
I remember thinking I'd rather be
going to that party
555
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:54,080
than actually going in
to interview the future king.
556
00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:05,360
I explained why we were going there,
557
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:07,960
it was the result of the publication
of the letter.
558
00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:11,920
He understood the reasons for it
559
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:13,760
and was only too willing
to cooperate.
560
00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:17,240
He came in, was extremely charming.
561
00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:21,400
I put questions to him which were
noted down by Dave Douglas.
562
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:25,880
I'm not a monarchist and I'm not
obsessed with the Royal Family
563
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:27,280
in any way shape or form,
564
00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:31,040
I have to say that Charles was
actually very...
565
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:32,400
Very polite.
566
00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:37,200
Obviously, Lord Stevens is asking
him questions and he, deliberately,
567
00:38:37,240 --> 00:38:39,920
on a couple of occasions,
leant past Lord Stevens
568
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:42,680
to ask me general questions
about Paget,
569
00:38:42,720 --> 00:38:44,920
"How's it going? Is the inquiry
going OK?"
570
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:46,800
He was putting me at my ease
571
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:49,440
by actually including me in
the conversation,
572
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:51,320
I thought, "That's, that's quite
classy,
573
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:53,480
"doesn't matter whether I like
the monarchy or not,
574
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:56,040
"That's quite classy."
I was impressed with that.
575
00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:00,960
He denied being involved in any way,
shape or form
576
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:03,080
and, that was noted.
577
00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:06,600
I don't want to go into what
Prince Charles said.
578
00:39:08,240 --> 00:39:12,480
All I'll say is that when it came to
all of the details in that note,
579
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:15,680
the Prince of Wales couldn't
understand any of it,
580
00:39:15,720 --> 00:39:18,280
he couldn't understand
why it was written,
581
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:20,760
he couldn't understand why
those names were put in there,
582
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:22,480
he just couldn't help us with it.
583
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:26,120
He was as flabbergasted as
anybody else.
584
00:39:32,240 --> 00:39:35,880
When she wrote me that note,
the Princess was going through
585
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:38,240
a very tricky part of her life
586
00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:40,320
and so, she wasn't stable,
587
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:43,720
and her feelings were erratic.
588
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:51,680
Oh, I think a lot of people felt
that Diana was a problem.
589
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:57,720
This wasn't an overwhelming case
of somebody who's
590
00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:01,200
off their rockers or
whatever phrase you want to use,
591
00:40:01,240 --> 00:40:03,280
and of course, it's very convenient,
592
00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:06,240
if you want to write
somebody off,
593
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:08,480
you say they're a bit "unbalanced",
594
00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:11,960
so they can explain Diana
and the whole problem there
595
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:13,880
because she was
a little bit, you know...
596
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:16,200
Well, I think the headline's
strong enough at the top
597
00:40:16,240 --> 00:40:18,400
and it's just a question
of which picture we use.
598
00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:23,040
I don't see how anybody can accuse
Diana of being overly concerned
599
00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:24,560
with her security.
600
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:28,000
She was aware, as
the public became aware,
601
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:30,560
that phone calls were
being listened to.
602
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:33,560
And there's more of the tape on
pages four and five as well. OK?
603
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:37,000
"Squidgy" was the tape recording
of Diana talking to a man,
604
00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:39,640
possibly an extra-marital friendship
605
00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:44,680
which began to be circulated
in...late 1991.
606
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:53,040
PRESENTER: The Sun newspaper say
this tape is genuine.
607
00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:55,040
It records and intimate...
608
00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:56,080
A 45-minute tape...
609
00:40:57,400 --> 00:40:59,760
Rambling... Incoherent, at times,
610
00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:01,640
angry about her lot,
611
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:03,600
angry about the Royal Family.
612
00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:06,840
Obviously, I think our readers will
be absolutely fascinated by
613
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:10,520
the dialogue. As I said it's
not...revelatory in a major way,
614
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:14,120
this is, really, a kind of
a soul-bearing of a woman
615
00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:17,680
who's got many
tormented aspects in her life.
616
00:41:17,720 --> 00:41:21,440
Yeah, that's the one, isn't it?
Yeah. "My Life's Torture".
617
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:23,800
And there she is,
poor Diana, looking very sad.
618
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:28,760
She did talk to me about her fears
619
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:31,360
that...everything she did
620
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:34,080
was reported back to the other side
621
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:36,120
and to the other side,
she meant Charles' lot,
622
00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:40,400
that, because her...phone calls
were tapped, he knew who...
623
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:43,400
..she was seeing, who she was
meeting, where she was going.
624
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:47,160
The evidence,
as it seemed, was quite compelling.
625
00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:05,760
People just camped outside
626
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:07,160
wherever Diana was,
627
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:08,760
wherever Charles was
628
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:11,080
and while they were camping there,
629
00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:13,480
they'd just have a scanner on,
listening,
630
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:16,720
and you'd obviously tape it cos
that tape is worth fortunes.
631
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:22,000
For the first time, you actually got
the Royal Family
632
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:26,280
not as they wanted to present
themselves, but as they really were.
633
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:29,600
Of course the public
are interested in that
634
00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:31,840
and why is that
not in the public interest?
635
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:37,120
Years later,
there was the Panorama interview.
636
00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:41,760
Well, there were three of us in this
marriage, so it was a bit crowded.
637
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:42,840
SHE CHUCKLES
638
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:45,240
We watched the
Martin Bashir interview.
639
00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:49,200
How does it affect the crash?
Does it affect what happened
640
00:42:49,240 --> 00:42:51,520
in the conspiracy?
Is it relevant to that?
641
00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:52,960
And we said, "Well, no."
642
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:55,800
And...I have to say it, just like
everybody else, we thought this was
643
00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:58,280
a respected BBC journalist,
644
00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:02,640
doing an interview for
a respected BBC production,
645
00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:05,880
and the BBC broadcast
to the world.
646
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:08,600
So, you'd think,
"Well, that's just as it is."
647
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:11,200
It never crossed our minds that,
actually,
648
00:43:11,240 --> 00:43:13,760
there was some deception
behind getting this.
649
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:17,720
We now know,
courtesy of Diana's brother,
650
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:20,520
that Martin Bashir presented
651
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:23,720
a whole series of
claims and allegations...
652
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:28,080
..that encouraged Diana to meet
with Bashir...
653
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:30,520
And the rest is history.
654
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:38,360
But in the course of
a sort of entrapping,
655
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:40,440
and I'm afraid that is
the phrase, really,
656
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:43,680
for what Martin Bashir did,
entrapping Diana,
657
00:43:43,720 --> 00:43:48,160
he concocted these stories...
658
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:52,200
..that fuelled her imagination,
659
00:43:52,240 --> 00:43:53,680
some would say her paranoia,
660
00:43:53,720 --> 00:43:55,560
that she was being followed,
661
00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:58,280
that her phone calls were
being tapped.
662
00:43:59,920 --> 00:44:02,560
It doesn't take a huge leap...
663
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:06,280
..to go from that to,
"My life is in danger."
664
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:10,360
One day, a man came to see us.
665
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:13,800
He said he was an ex-MI5 officer,
666
00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:16,280
and he went around all
the apartments
667
00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:18,400
and listened for devices.
668
00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:23,280
Couldn't find anything.
669
00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:25,600
But then, he dramatically said
to the Princess,
670
00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:28,280
"Well, we have to take down
every mirror in the palace...
671
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:34,280
"..because you can shine a beam
from outer space onto a mirror,
672
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:36,880
"into a room and listen to
the conversation."
673
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:41,240
She believed it was true.
674
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:43,400
She knew...
675
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:46,360
..that her world wasn't safe.
676
00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:57,160
BEEPING
677
00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:01,680
The team were told,
you know, "Be very careful,
678
00:45:01,720 --> 00:45:03,640
"there may be phone tapping",
679
00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:10,400
and lots of thought and effort went
into protecting the investigation.
680
00:45:13,240 --> 00:45:17,200
There was never a time
that we weren't on our guard
681
00:45:17,240 --> 00:45:18,960
cos if you were not on your guard,
682
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:21,240
there were people in
the background who'd, you know,
683
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:23,720
pull the rug from under you
and that's the experience I've had
684
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:25,200
over the years!
685
00:45:25,240 --> 00:45:28,440
You have to anticipate
that not everybody's on your side,
686
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:30,800
people are gonna wanna find out
what you're doing,
687
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:33,720
people are trying to get
sources of information from you.
688
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:39,240
We knew at one stage that,
you know, we were being followed.
689
00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:44,840
There's a real feeling of isolation
690
00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:47,280
and, "Who are your allies?
691
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:48,720
"Who are your allies?"
692
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:54,800
I don't even begin
to say I understand
693
00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:57,080
the Princess of Wales
and what she was going through,
694
00:45:57,120 --> 00:45:59,160
but, I think, when you're in
that position,
695
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:01,680
when you're at the centre
of media attention
696
00:46:01,720 --> 00:46:04,400
all the time, I think
you start to see shadows.
697
00:46:56,440 --> 00:47:00,960
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