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The trouble with getting
hired to do something
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is I don't know what
the film's about. Yeah.
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You know, is it about what
a stud Paul Newman is?
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Is it about how women get demolished
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by a male-driven culture?
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Yeah... loving marriages?
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Yes. Is it a movie about
Paul or Joanne or...
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And it reminds me of this thing
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that you said to me a while ago
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when I was asking
for relationship advice,
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which was that in relationships,
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there's always a third person,
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and the third person
is the relationship.
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It just creates this different person
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that is the two people together.
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And I wonder if the
movie is about if, you know,
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if you can see it as easier to make
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being about one person.
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If it's about that person,
the person that was...
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What?
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I think that's what I should do.
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"Sometimes a Great Notion."
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This was out on the set.
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Paul inherited this film.
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He was acting in it,
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and then they fired the director,
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and he had to take over direction.
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"'Sometimes a Great Notion'
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was a bad, unsettled time.
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I was warring with everybody.
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I was warring with my agent.
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I was warring with Universal.
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And I was going through
difficult times with Joanne.
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And I had too much pressure on me.
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I was drinking much too hard."
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Got a beer?
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He was drinking so
much, and he was so tired.
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Directing and acting.
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That he would finish,
look at the rushes,
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and then down six to eight martinis.
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"I was here in New York,
and I got a call from Paul
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saying that, you know,
'Sometimes a Great Notion'
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was totally out of control,
that he'd taken over directing.
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And he wondered if I
could come out there
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and just give him a hand."
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"He was really drinking a lot."
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"I asked him how much he drank.
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I remember him telling me.
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Hmm. A staggering amount."
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George arrives and finds Paul
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basically drinking himself to death.
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And George Roy Hill
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was a pretty heavy drinker himself.
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Yeah. I mean, that's like
Willie Nelson telling you
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you're smoking too
much grass, you know?
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You know you're in trouble
when he's worried about you.
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"Paul is a very angry
man. He's frustrated.
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But anger is just another
form of being alive.
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I mean, I think you have
to be angry in order to live.
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You can't just lie back
and let things roll over you.
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and Paul doesn't. He
is a principled man.
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And to be a principled
man, you've got to be angry."
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Hey! You stop...
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"A thick skin had to be selected.
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You have to control what
you're going to allow to get to you
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and what you're not.
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That's probably the reason
I drank as much as I did."
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You bastard! That was my daddy's desk.
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"I don't know if I should say this.
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You decide if you want
to, you know, deal with it.
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But he had one family with Joanne
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and these little princesses
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living in this incredible mansion
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on the other side of town
was this house in the Valley
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with, you know, two other
girls, you know, a boy.
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I always felt... I don't
have any reason to feel this.
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I don't have any information.
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But I always felt I was
projected into this situation,
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that it was...
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If it was me, I would
be terribly guilty."
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"So, Paul, what made your divorce
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from Jackie so brutal?
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50% of the American population is..."
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"Because it didn't have
any class, Stewart."
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"How so?"
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"It didn't take the parties that
we're gonna be injured aside
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and give them
comfort... by explanation."
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"By telling them what was happening?"
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"Yeah, but in a way that
they would understand it.
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But that's because I didn't get it."
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It's not because I wouldn't
have done it had I gotten it."
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"How would you explain it now?"
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"Well, I don't know, Stewart.
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I couldn't create the scene."
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Whoa!
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That was a very good landing.
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You do a job, man.
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"One night, he just fell out of bed.
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I found him on the floor
with his head bleeding.
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And I came as close
as I ever had to saying,
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'Well, this is it.'"
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Sorry, but I was
forced to kick the crap...
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"I just can't stand it.
I just can't stand it."
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Come on up. I forgot something.
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"It was one of many, many times."
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Hank. Let go of me, Leeland!
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Hank, co...
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Are you all right?
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Whee! Whee, whee.
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When I dream, I'm still a child.
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I can run, I can skate.
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Last night, I held hands
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with the boy who sat behind me
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in Miss Tristrum's class.
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And I woke up, and I
was so heartbroken.
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I'm an old woman.
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Oh.
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I won't even dignify
that with a comment.
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My God, you're a spring chicken.
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You got your whole
life ahead of you yet.
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It'll go by like a weekend.
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There's no time for anything.
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You know, sometimes I
stand in the middle of my room
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and I wonder what I'm doing here
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with, uh, with the scissors in my hand.
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The whole morning goes by,
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and all I've done
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is take the stockings
out of the drawer.
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Listen.
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They give you a cupful of time,
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you drink it or you
spill it on the floor.
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You think time cares what you do?
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That won't have to be me.
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Got everything? Yeah.
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She got so upset with him
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that she put us all in the car
and drove us out to Malibu.
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And I mean, basically left
him and said, "I'm done."
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He shows up at this house
and knocks on the door
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and all his kids are inside
and she's there and she says,
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"No, this isn't your
house. You don't live here.
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We live here."
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And he says, "I'm... I'm
coming... coming home."
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And she says, "Not
unless you quit drinking."
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And he's like, "Uh, I don't
do well with ultimatums."
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And, um, and he slept...
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I don't know if it was, like, overnight
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one night or two nights or
four weeks or what it was.
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But he was in the driveway sleeping,
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and she would not let him in.
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She's like, "There's no negotiations.
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This is not a negotiation.
This is... this is it."
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And finally, I was forced
to ring the front doorbell.
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She answered the door and I said,
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"I have no place to go."
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And he says...
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"How about hard alcohol?
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Only beer?"
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And she says, "Okay,"
and she opens it in.
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She was also very difficult.
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"I really hate this," she complained.
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"I hate everything about
the promotion tours.
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In fact, the only thing I
like about acting is acting."
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She was mercurial.
She was anxiety driven.
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She could hold a grudge.
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She could be very dark and moody.
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She could be really charming.
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She was fiercely
loving, all these things.
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She wasn't easy.
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I know it's not... Well,
it has to be a drama.
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But what is the message?
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Oh, my God. Don't ask me.
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What's the picture about?
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It's about two hours.
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And he made it work with her, too.
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And I think that was part of
what he was so intrigued by.
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And, of course, everyone wanted to know
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what it's really like to
live with Paul Newman.
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"We never discuss each other.
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We never discuss each other's
film," she would say patiently.
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I mean, they were artists.
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And so when they got in
a fight, it was a lot of, like,
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yelling and throwing,
both storming off.
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You know, it was very, like,
romantic and high-powered.
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She begged to be off duty
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as soon as she introduced her film
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at the last stop of the day.
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It was 6:30 at the
American Film Institute.
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Then she left at the hotel
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where her husband, Paul
Newman, was to join her.
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No press allowed.
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Sally Quinn, CBS News.
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Winner is Joanne Woodward
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for "Summer Wishes, Winter Dreams."
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There's another very important film,
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"Summer Wishes, Winter Dreams."
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I thought it was some of my best work,
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and I think everybody
in it was wonderful
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and it was not a success.
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And I said, "Well, you know,
it's all downhill from now
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because there are not
a lot of parts at that age
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or past, sort of the leading lady,
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unless you're Jane Fonda."
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Joanne, I understand
that a former winner
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of the Society's Best Actor Award
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is beside you waiting
to give you yours.
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In fact, he'd been beside
you for several years.
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Paul Newman, please expose yourself.
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Good evening, David.
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I don't know whether you know it,
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but it's not... it's not all that easy
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being the husband of a
famous motion-picture star.
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Joanne. My love.
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"Joanne and I seem to have grown.
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We've moved towards
a kind of final solution
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to this acting question."
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She seemed to have no ego,
yet there was a towering ego there,
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one moment filled
with the sense of worth,
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and the next simply shattered.
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So when she would lapse,
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I'd understand and hold her blameless.
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And she would
understand me in the end."
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Wait a minute. Hold it.
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Boy, you look terrific.
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So do you...
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except you got a little
gray over your ears there.
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That's the only difference.
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Everything else works about the same.
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Rilke said this, "Once
the realization is accepted
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that even between the
closest human beings,
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infinite distances continue,
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a wonderful living
side by side can grow,
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if they succeed in loving
the distance between them
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which makes it possible
for each to see the other
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whole against the sky."
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"In protecting yourselves
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and not ruffling one
another's feathers,
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you can become noncombatants."
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I never can get these things off.
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Maybe you shouldn't try.
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"And you can begin to cater.
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There's a sense of
catering there sometimes."
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"But whatever it is, it's equal.
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I simply delight in her."
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"There were times when
Paul and I both had to hang in,
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when it felt like
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that the marriage
wouldn't last another day."
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"We had to step outside of ourselves
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and become aware of three
things that were operating...
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my ego, his ego and our ego."
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"For the relationship to survive,
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we had to put the his and hers on hold
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and just go for the our."
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I think the documentary
should be about the space
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between them,
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meaning, "I'm centered
and safe in my life
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and we can both expand."
257
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The love expands you, right?
258
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Gentlemen...
259
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start your engines.
260
00:13:46,575 --> 00:13:49,203
I wore my Bubba Wallace T-shirt
261
00:13:49,286 --> 00:13:51,080
in honor of Paul today.
262
00:13:51,163 --> 00:13:52,456
I've been trying to learn
263
00:13:52,540 --> 00:13:54,667
about racecar driving, you know?
264
00:13:54,750 --> 00:13:55,960
Yeah.
265
00:13:56,043 --> 00:13:58,045
Because I just don't
know anything about it.
266
00:13:58,128 --> 00:14:00,923
Yeah, and I don't
know if I even get it.
267
00:14:01,006 --> 00:14:02,299
You're quite serious
268
00:14:02,383 --> 00:14:04,677
about wanting to be a racing driver.
269
00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:08,514
Pretty hard to start something
like that when you're 47.
270
00:14:08,597 --> 00:14:10,307
Why is dance important?
271
00:14:10,391 --> 00:14:14,103
Somewhere inside
myself, for a brief moment,
272
00:14:14,186 --> 00:14:19,191
I am Margot Fonteyn
or Cynthia Gregory or...
273
00:14:19,275 --> 00:14:21,193
I mean, there is
something that you think,
274
00:14:21,277 --> 00:14:22,903
"That's the way everybody ought to be."
275
00:14:22,987 --> 00:14:25,406
Newman worked his way into ninth
276
00:14:25,489 --> 00:14:27,533
in a credible, if not satisfying,
277
00:14:27,616 --> 00:14:30,119
first championship effort.
278
00:14:30,202 --> 00:14:32,705
The only good thing was the bratwurst.
279
00:14:32,788 --> 00:14:35,499
Paul had the things he
loved to do and that was it.
280
00:14:35,583 --> 00:14:39,795
I mean, he wanted to go racing
and get me in his freaking car.
281
00:14:39,878 --> 00:14:42,840
I said, "No."
282
00:14:42,923 --> 00:14:44,300
but that's what he loved to do.
283
00:14:44,383 --> 00:14:46,135
So he would go and do that.
284
00:14:46,218 --> 00:14:47,928
And Joanne loved her theater.
285
00:14:52,933 --> 00:14:55,311
Who are these people?
286
00:14:55,394 --> 00:14:57,938
Fans. I think they're all fans.
287
00:15:00,482 --> 00:15:02,651
I can't believe how often I did this.
288
00:15:02,735 --> 00:15:05,487
I mean, I was at every race.
289
00:15:05,571 --> 00:15:09,533
It's what summer was all about.
290
00:15:09,617 --> 00:15:11,327
It was fun.
291
00:15:11,410 --> 00:15:13,162
Everybody had a good time.
292
00:15:13,245 --> 00:15:14,413
When Paul won,
293
00:15:14,496 --> 00:15:16,999
the kids would get to
go on the victory lap
294
00:15:17,082 --> 00:15:19,752
and we used to all pile in the car.
295
00:15:21,170 --> 00:15:24,423
Like being a part of a circus family.
296
00:15:24,506 --> 00:15:26,425
"The marriage worked so well
297
00:15:26,508 --> 00:15:29,345
because they have nothing in common.
298
00:15:29,428 --> 00:15:32,973
I mean, they really don't
get in each other's way.
299
00:15:33,057 --> 00:15:34,808
The wretched couples,
300
00:15:34,892 --> 00:15:37,978
the couples that
share the same desires,
301
00:15:38,062 --> 00:15:40,230
beliefs and hobbies,
302
00:15:40,314 --> 00:15:44,109
that is the couple that is
headed towards Reno."
303
00:15:44,193 --> 00:15:47,112
Is there one mutual interest
between the two of you?
304
00:15:49,615 --> 00:15:51,200
No.
305
00:15:51,283 --> 00:15:52,910
Do we have mutual interests?
306
00:15:55,287 --> 00:15:56,538
Not really.
307
00:15:56,622 --> 00:15:58,874
Get the fuck out of there, will you?!
308
00:15:58,957 --> 00:16:00,584
Behind the net!
309
00:16:00,668 --> 00:16:02,836
Hey, Hanrahan, she's a dyke!
310
00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:04,213
I know, I know!
311
00:16:04,296 --> 00:16:06,674
One of the secret sauces to Paul
312
00:16:06,757 --> 00:16:10,886
is his just childish sense of humor.
313
00:16:10,969 --> 00:16:13,555
Well, you see it.
314
00:16:13,639 --> 00:16:15,432
You know, that terrific
picture, "Slap Shot."
315
00:16:15,516 --> 00:16:18,060
Him crazy.
316
00:16:23,482 --> 00:16:26,485
"I mean, 'Slap Shot' is a magical film.
317
00:16:26,568 --> 00:16:28,320
I don't know what was magical about it,
318
00:16:28,404 --> 00:16:31,990
just original, sideways.
319
00:16:32,074 --> 00:16:35,285
Don't ever play "Lady of Spain" again!
320
00:16:35,369 --> 00:16:38,247
"Slap Shot," I can
watch that... I don't know.
321
00:16:38,330 --> 00:16:40,499
There was something about it.
322
00:16:40,582 --> 00:16:42,418
That's Paul, right?
323
00:16:42,501 --> 00:16:43,836
You know, you could tell
324
00:16:43,919 --> 00:16:46,004
that he was thoroughly
enjoying that performance
325
00:16:46,088 --> 00:16:48,340
because he could just let it go.
326
00:16:48,424 --> 00:16:49,675
Keep your heads on
the ice out there, will you?
327
00:16:49,758 --> 00:16:52,636
We all know how to play hockey.
328
00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:53,887
Just play it smart.
329
00:16:53,971 --> 00:16:55,556
That's right. Get out
there and stick 'em!
330
00:16:55,639 --> 00:16:56,765
Fuck 'em! Christ!
331
00:16:56,849 --> 00:16:58,809
Let's go! Come on!
332
00:16:58,892 --> 00:17:01,603
- Come on.
- Let's go now.
333
00:17:01,687 --> 00:17:03,689
We need this win, you
know? We got a lot of losses.
334
00:17:03,772 --> 00:17:05,065
Yeah, we got a lot of 'em!
335
00:17:09,403 --> 00:17:10,738
That's what we're
here for, guys, to win.
336
00:17:12,197 --> 00:17:14,324
Play heads up out there.
I mean, let's be smart.
337
00:17:14,408 --> 00:17:16,910
Man for man, we're better than
any fucking club in the league
338
00:17:16,994 --> 00:17:18,078
if we just put our minds to it.
339
00:17:19,204 --> 00:17:20,831
No one's better than us! Come on!
340
00:17:20,914 --> 00:17:23,125
Come on, Braden. Our line's starting.
341
00:17:26,378 --> 00:17:28,839
There's this movie called "WUSA."
342
00:17:28,922 --> 00:17:31,258
He was trying to make a political film,
343
00:17:31,341 --> 00:17:34,178
and he realized the movie's
just too serious. Right.
344
00:17:34,261 --> 00:17:35,429
And then he made
a better political film
345
00:17:35,512 --> 00:17:36,555
with "Slap Shot."
346
00:17:36,638 --> 00:17:38,265
"Alright, I'll make people laugh,
347
00:17:38,348 --> 00:17:41,477
and I'll make the same point
about how fucked up we all are.
348
00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:43,645
I'll be funny while I do it."
349
00:17:43,729 --> 00:17:45,481
Who owns the club anyway?
350
00:17:45,564 --> 00:17:47,816
I don't know. You don't know?
351
00:17:47,900 --> 00:17:51,111
What do you mean?
The corporation owns it.
352
00:17:51,195 --> 00:17:52,946
Who cares. You get your check, right?
353
00:17:53,030 --> 00:17:54,364
That's the spirit, Reg. That's it.
354
00:17:54,448 --> 00:17:56,116
"'Slap Shot's' a complicated piece.
355
00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:58,035
It has to do with our social system,
356
00:17:58,118 --> 00:18:00,120
using the sports world as a metaphor.
357
00:18:00,204 --> 00:18:01,371
The chiseling,
358
00:18:01,455 --> 00:18:04,166
the team manipulated by shadowy figures
359
00:18:04,249 --> 00:18:05,542
in the background
360
00:18:05,626 --> 00:18:07,544
who had no hands-on
connection, no allegiance,
361
00:18:07,628 --> 00:18:12,341
no understanding of that
team or the individuals on it."
362
00:18:12,424 --> 00:18:14,885
My accountant tells me I'm
better off folding the team,
363
00:18:14,968 --> 00:18:16,178
taking a tax loss.
364
00:18:18,931 --> 00:18:22,017
You mean you could
sell us, but you won't?
365
00:18:22,100 --> 00:18:25,813
I could probably sell you, but I can't.
366
00:18:29,775 --> 00:18:32,402
I mean, at its core, "Slap Shot,"
367
00:18:32,486 --> 00:18:36,198
it's a complete indictment
of macho assholes
368
00:18:36,281 --> 00:18:37,658
written by a woman.
369
00:18:37,741 --> 00:18:39,743
The same woman... she won
the Oscar for "Coming Home."
370
00:18:39,827 --> 00:18:43,288
It ends with them all
getting naked, you know,
371
00:18:43,372 --> 00:18:45,499
skating around, like, in brassieres.
372
00:18:45,582 --> 00:18:47,167
- Right?
- Right.
373
00:18:47,251 --> 00:18:48,919
"The striptease at
the end of the picture,
374
00:18:49,002 --> 00:18:52,965
the mendacity of it all had been
so outrageous, so depressing.
375
00:18:53,048 --> 00:18:55,425
Somebody finally had to
just take all their clothes off
376
00:18:55,509 --> 00:18:57,094
and piss on them.
377
00:18:57,177 --> 00:19:01,557
It was an unpremeditated scream
of protest against the system,
378
00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:05,561
manipulation, all the
deals, rituals, and garbage."
379
00:19:14,653 --> 00:19:16,196
Do you have any desire to be bigger?
380
00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:18,240
And what does it mean to be bigger
381
00:19:18,323 --> 00:19:20,117
in someone's case like yours?
382
00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:22,119
Um... uh, yes.
383
00:19:22,202 --> 00:19:23,620
Bigger?
384
00:19:23,704 --> 00:19:25,581
Bigger? I suppose they mean...
385
00:19:25,664 --> 00:19:29,042
You know, somewhere
along that, I think I would like
386
00:19:29,126 --> 00:19:30,419
to have been, um,
387
00:19:30,502 --> 00:19:36,592
yes, uh, able to do bigger roles.
388
00:19:36,675 --> 00:19:38,093
Superstar films.
389
00:19:38,176 --> 00:19:40,137
Yeah.
390
00:19:40,220 --> 00:19:43,056
I really like working on
stage best, and I always did.
391
00:19:43,140 --> 00:19:45,475
So it's kind of nice to
have gone back to that.
392
00:19:45,559 --> 00:19:48,395
I had never done
Shaw, so I did "Candida."
393
00:19:48,478 --> 00:19:51,982
And I'd never done Noel
Coward, so I did "Hay Fever."
394
00:19:52,065 --> 00:19:54,109
Loved it.
395
00:19:54,192 --> 00:19:56,653
One of the loveliest
things for me to have done
396
00:19:56,737 --> 00:20:00,282
was I did "Glass
Menagerie" playing Amanda.
397
00:20:00,365 --> 00:20:03,243
And I had played Laura
many, many years before
398
00:20:03,327 --> 00:20:04,453
at the little theater
399
00:20:04,536 --> 00:20:07,331
where I'd started my career as a kid.
400
00:20:07,414 --> 00:20:12,461
Just a little silver slip of a moon.
401
00:20:12,544 --> 00:20:13,754
When Joanne says
402
00:20:13,837 --> 00:20:15,964
she doesn't think of herself as a star,
403
00:20:16,048 --> 00:20:19,426
she means that she's not considered
404
00:20:19,509 --> 00:20:21,470
by a studio bankable.
405
00:20:21,553 --> 00:20:22,512
is taking a nap.
406
00:20:22,596 --> 00:20:23,805
I support the maid, too!
407
00:20:23,889 --> 00:20:25,724
You wake up Maria, Sonny, I will...
408
00:20:25,807 --> 00:20:28,810
We fired Maria! This is another Maria!
409
00:20:28,894 --> 00:20:31,104
But she is eternally a star
410
00:20:31,188 --> 00:20:34,358
in the sense that she
is a famous actress
411
00:20:34,441 --> 00:20:37,152
and one of the best
actresses and witness.
412
00:20:37,235 --> 00:20:39,655
She's constantly in demand.
413
00:20:42,199 --> 00:20:47,871
Now, I had had almost
an impossible journey
414
00:20:47,955 --> 00:20:50,540
out of situational-comedy television
415
00:20:50,624 --> 00:20:54,962
because I was in a television
situation comedy in the '60s,
416
00:20:55,045 --> 00:20:57,506
and you just simply
didn't get out of that.
417
00:20:57,589 --> 00:20:59,716
So by the time "Sybil" came along,
418
00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:01,176
no one wanted me there.
419
00:21:01,259 --> 00:21:02,970
You could feel it in the room.
420
00:21:03,053 --> 00:21:04,471
"What, are we wasting our time?"
421
00:21:04,554 --> 00:21:06,974
And I will never forget it.
422
00:21:07,057 --> 00:21:09,685
She was sitting on a kind of armchair.
423
00:21:09,768 --> 00:21:13,605
There was no moment
between, "How do you do?"
424
00:21:13,689 --> 00:21:15,774
We were two actors that went... whoosh.
425
00:21:15,857 --> 00:21:17,109
I'm scared.
426
00:21:17,192 --> 00:21:19,778
Sybil?
427
00:21:19,861 --> 00:21:22,531
I hate Sybil. I hate her.
428
00:21:22,614 --> 00:21:23,824
Who are you?
429
00:21:23,907 --> 00:21:25,951
I can do anything. I
can do anything I want.
430
00:21:26,034 --> 00:21:27,536
And I'll never forget.
431
00:21:27,619 --> 00:21:32,374
At the end of this one
scene, I was on the ground,
432
00:21:32,457 --> 00:21:35,335
and I crawled over and I was crying.
433
00:21:35,419 --> 00:21:38,839
And I laid my head on her knee,
434
00:21:38,922 --> 00:21:43,927
and she touched the top of
my head very, very slightly.
435
00:21:44,011 --> 00:21:46,722
And I took her... She
had a long scarf on.
436
00:21:46,805 --> 00:21:51,226
I took her scarf and
wiped my nose on it.
437
00:21:51,309 --> 00:21:54,521
And I had heard... Stewart told me
438
00:21:54,604 --> 00:21:57,107
Joanne had turned to them and said,
439
00:21:57,190 --> 00:22:00,569
"If it isn't Sally, then
I'm not Dr. Wilbur."
440
00:22:00,652 --> 00:22:02,362
That's Vanessa,
441
00:22:02,446 --> 00:22:05,782
and she's got all your
music for safekeeping.
442
00:22:09,578 --> 00:22:13,081
And i-it changed my life.
443
00:22:13,165 --> 00:22:17,127
And all of a sudden, I saw one ant
444
00:22:17,210 --> 00:22:21,923
who was struggling to
pick up this grain of sand
445
00:22:22,007 --> 00:22:25,594
that was far too heavy for her to lift.
446
00:22:25,677 --> 00:22:28,305
And he struggled and he struggled.
447
00:22:28,388 --> 00:22:32,476
And pretty soon, another ant came by
448
00:22:32,559 --> 00:22:35,771
and together, the two of them
449
00:22:35,854 --> 00:22:37,230
lifted the grain of sand
450
00:22:37,314 --> 00:22:39,316
and started to carry it away.
451
00:22:39,399 --> 00:22:41,610
Now, isn't that miraculous,
452
00:22:41,693 --> 00:22:45,280
how much two creatures
can accomplish together
453
00:22:45,363 --> 00:22:48,283
when they care about each other?
454
00:22:56,249 --> 00:22:58,460
I am required by law to advise you guys
455
00:22:58,543 --> 00:22:59,795
that my hands are registered
456
00:22:59,878 --> 00:23:01,630
in the state of California
as lethal weapons.
457
00:23:01,713 --> 00:23:02,964
Do you understand?
458
00:23:03,048 --> 00:23:05,675
Oh, really? Black belt, huh?
459
00:23:05,759 --> 00:23:06,927
You betcha.
460
00:23:07,010 --> 00:23:09,096
A little "Show me yours."
461
00:23:13,100 --> 00:23:15,310
Uh, it's a different ballgame.
462
00:23:15,394 --> 00:23:17,270
I was just... I was just kidding.
463
00:23:17,354 --> 00:23:19,564
I'm a brown belt, actually.
Where do you want me to sit?
464
00:23:19,648 --> 00:23:22,442
That was a very
difficult time for him...
465
00:23:22,526 --> 00:23:24,319
"Drowning Pool."
466
00:23:24,402 --> 00:23:27,155
I remember once we were
shooting in New Orleans
467
00:23:27,239 --> 00:23:29,157
and his kids came to visit.
468
00:23:29,241 --> 00:23:31,451
You know, listen, you're
gonna have to decide
469
00:23:31,535 --> 00:23:34,162
whether it's useful or
not to use this, but...
470
00:23:34,246 --> 00:23:37,415
Because I think it's terribly
personal what I'm about to say,
471
00:23:37,499 --> 00:23:38,834
and I'm not sure I should.
472
00:23:38,917 --> 00:23:42,045
But, you know, I remember
his son came to visit
473
00:23:42,129 --> 00:23:44,005
and his two daughters.
474
00:23:44,089 --> 00:23:46,299
And we had the streets roped off,
475
00:23:46,383 --> 00:23:48,051
and we had the police there.
476
00:23:48,135 --> 00:23:51,721
Everybody in the world was out
to get a glimpse of Paul Newman,
477
00:23:51,805 --> 00:23:52,973
the giant superstar.
478
00:23:53,056 --> 00:23:55,058
And I don't know what
caused the argument,
479
00:23:55,142 --> 00:23:57,352
but he had an argument with his son
480
00:23:57,435 --> 00:24:01,356
and his son, in very loud
terms so that people could hear,
481
00:24:01,439 --> 00:24:03,233
started putting Paul down.
482
00:24:03,316 --> 00:24:05,068
And I was amazed.
483
00:24:05,152 --> 00:24:07,904
I was just... I was destroyed.
484
00:24:07,988 --> 00:24:11,241
I mean, I don't think I want
to tell you what he said.
485
00:24:11,324 --> 00:24:16,037
It was so personal
and private that I just...
486
00:24:16,121 --> 00:24:17,622
I don't think that I should.
487
00:24:17,706 --> 00:24:20,542
I don't think I would
like to remind Paul of it
488
00:24:20,625 --> 00:24:22,752
because it was so disturbed.
489
00:24:31,094 --> 00:24:33,805
Scott sky diving.
490
00:24:37,475 --> 00:24:39,227
Strange.
491
00:24:43,815 --> 00:24:47,235
I never understood
the desire to do this.
492
00:24:52,741 --> 00:24:54,367
"I mean, I've had a lot of people
493
00:24:54,451 --> 00:24:58,205
say to me now, you know,
'What could you have done?'
494
00:24:58,288 --> 00:24:59,789
And there's still a large part of me
495
00:24:59,873 --> 00:25:02,834
that feels I could actually
have done something.
496
00:25:02,918 --> 00:25:05,045
And I think that Paul,
497
00:25:05,128 --> 00:25:07,797
for whatever reason of
his own, wanted him to be
498
00:25:07,881 --> 00:25:11,092
a macho little boy,
an unafraid little boy,
499
00:25:11,176 --> 00:25:14,971
a boy who could
drive cars, ride horses,
500
00:25:15,055 --> 00:25:17,933
all which Scott did
and all of which Scott
501
00:25:18,016 --> 00:25:22,771
supposedly was crazy
to do, but I got to tell you
502
00:25:22,854 --> 00:25:26,775
that there was a large
part of me that wonders.
503
00:25:26,858 --> 00:25:29,444
Just as I have always
wondered about Paul's desire
504
00:25:29,527 --> 00:25:31,780
to drive cars."
505
00:25:31,863 --> 00:25:35,450
There's Paul's car,
which was a disaster
506
00:25:35,533 --> 00:25:39,788
and broke down and crashed
and did everything except win.
507
00:25:39,871 --> 00:25:45,877
"To me, it's like a big
man playing a little boy.
508
00:25:45,961 --> 00:25:47,462
That's the way it is."
509
00:25:47,545 --> 00:25:49,923
gain this experience very rapidly.
510
00:25:50,006 --> 00:25:51,758
The more experience
he gets on the track,
511
00:25:51,841 --> 00:25:53,677
the better he's gonna do.
512
00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:56,388
"And Scott got in trouble
513
00:25:56,471 --> 00:25:57,764
at Valley Forge.
514
00:25:57,847 --> 00:26:00,308
You were so shaken that
you couldn't drive down there.
515
00:26:00,392 --> 00:26:02,435
It was the only time I've ever seen you
516
00:26:02,519 --> 00:26:03,770
unable to drive."
517
00:26:06,106 --> 00:26:07,983
"He had a girl in his room.
518
00:26:08,066 --> 00:26:10,485
That's what it was.
519
00:26:10,568 --> 00:26:12,153
It came hot on the heels of a wreck
520
00:26:12,237 --> 00:26:13,446
that he'd had in Connecticut.
521
00:26:13,530 --> 00:26:15,407
He wrecked a car after making promises
522
00:26:15,490 --> 00:26:20,537
and going back to school
and he brought chaos again."
523
00:26:23,540 --> 00:26:25,667
"I remember at the end of your talk,
524
00:26:25,750 --> 00:26:28,295
after you came to some
sort of an agreement
525
00:26:28,378 --> 00:26:30,880
with the headmaster
and Scott hugged you
526
00:26:30,964 --> 00:26:35,051
and you said that you felt forgiven.
527
00:26:35,135 --> 00:26:38,680
It was such a strange reversal
that you needed forgiveness,
528
00:26:38,763 --> 00:26:42,642
and he was the one at fault."
529
00:26:42,726 --> 00:26:45,228
"Yeah."
530
00:26:48,064 --> 00:26:50,525
"I developed a real affection for Scott
531
00:26:50,608 --> 00:26:52,861
on the film 'Waldo Pepper.'
532
00:26:52,944 --> 00:26:57,198
He was not particularly
well-liked by anybody else."
533
00:26:57,282 --> 00:26:58,450
What are they doing?
534
00:26:58,533 --> 00:27:00,827
"He was alternately brash and reticent,
535
00:27:00,910 --> 00:27:04,205
and there were times
when he went a little crazy.
536
00:27:04,289 --> 00:27:08,251
And Paul tried everything
he could to straighten him out.
537
00:27:08,335 --> 00:27:10,545
I felt sorry for Scott."
538
00:27:10,628 --> 00:27:11,921
We put her up on the wing...
539
00:27:12,005 --> 00:27:13,798
Yeah, and she'll fake
being afraid. Right.
540
00:27:13,882 --> 00:27:17,635
And the wind will blew
her clothes off. Yes!
541
00:27:17,719 --> 00:27:20,847
"He always made a special
place for Scott in his mind."
542
00:27:20,930 --> 00:27:23,141
Jesus Christ! It's one of our men.
543
00:27:23,224 --> 00:27:24,684
Oh, God.
544
00:27:28,313 --> 00:27:31,107
"But you don't do anybody any
good by feeling sorry for them."
545
00:27:33,109 --> 00:27:34,861
"Do you remember anything
546
00:27:34,944 --> 00:27:38,239
about Scott's therapy?"
547
00:27:38,323 --> 00:27:40,283
"I remember
548
00:27:40,367 --> 00:27:45,580
that his doctor tried
to point out to me
549
00:27:45,663 --> 00:27:48,166
that what I had really
better focus my attention on
550
00:27:48,249 --> 00:27:51,378
was Scott's relationship
with his father.
551
00:27:51,461 --> 00:27:54,756
He asked Paul if he
would be willing to come out
552
00:27:54,839 --> 00:27:58,593
and, um, sit with us.
553
00:27:58,676 --> 00:28:04,182
The doctor had a small,
round-like coffee table,
554
00:28:04,265 --> 00:28:06,601
and Paul never met
this man before in his life.
555
00:28:06,684 --> 00:28:10,772
He took off his shoes, put his
stocking feet up on the table,
556
00:28:10,855 --> 00:28:13,233
and sat back like this."
557
00:28:15,026 --> 00:28:17,153
"The doctor was furious,
and he told me afterwards
558
00:28:17,237 --> 00:28:19,906
that Mr. Newman's attitude
made it perfectly clear to him
559
00:28:19,989 --> 00:28:21,825
that he was not interested
in getting involved
560
00:28:21,908 --> 00:28:24,411
in Scott's therapy in any
kind of constructive way."
561
00:28:29,249 --> 00:28:30,625
"Oh, God.
562
00:28:30,708 --> 00:28:32,710
I vowed I would never do this.
563
00:28:34,295 --> 00:28:38,383
Get angry over this lack of
coming to grips with Scott."
564
00:28:39,926 --> 00:28:41,136
"I feel very guilty
565
00:28:41,219 --> 00:28:43,263
that I didn't come
to grips with Scott."
566
00:28:53,898 --> 00:28:56,151
"When Jackie says that therapist judged
567
00:28:56,234 --> 00:28:58,361
that I didn't care about
Scott because I put my feet
568
00:28:58,445 --> 00:29:01,364
on his desk, I asked him,
'Why did I fly to California?
569
00:29:01,448 --> 00:29:03,992
Why did I come to his
office if I didn't care?'
570
00:29:04,075 --> 00:29:06,661
Putting my feet up relaxes my tension
571
00:29:06,744 --> 00:29:08,830
or helps mask my anxiety.
572
00:29:08,913 --> 00:29:10,331
Does that mean I'm any less interested
573
00:29:10,415 --> 00:29:13,835
in what the hell he has to tell me?
574
00:29:13,918 --> 00:29:16,045
How dare he say I don't care?
575
00:29:16,129 --> 00:29:19,174
He was looking at things through
the lens of his own information.
576
00:29:19,257 --> 00:29:22,260
I am one of those people
who don't know things.
577
00:29:22,343 --> 00:29:24,345
My body, my mind just doesn't get them.
578
00:29:24,429 --> 00:29:26,306
There's a lot I don't
know about myself.
579
00:29:26,389 --> 00:29:30,560
I know that I could have
done better with all my children.
580
00:29:30,643 --> 00:29:31,853
I could have been worse.
581
00:29:31,936 --> 00:29:33,021
I could have put them all in closets
582
00:29:33,104 --> 00:29:34,355
and kicked the shit out of them
583
00:29:34,439 --> 00:29:36,816
or performed incest on
them or beat them up.
584
00:29:36,900 --> 00:29:39,235
But I didn't do any of those things."
585
00:29:41,946 --> 00:29:43,281
"I could have been more consistent.
586
00:29:43,364 --> 00:29:44,908
I could have been more understanding.
587
00:29:44,991 --> 00:29:46,409
I could have been more patient.
588
00:29:46,493 --> 00:29:49,329
I could have stopped work
or never gone on location."
589
00:29:50,788 --> 00:29:53,917
"I could have done things that
might have made them different."
590
00:29:55,793 --> 00:29:59,214
"How different it would have
made them, I don't know."
591
00:30:02,175 --> 00:30:05,053
"It just would have had to
have been a different person."
592
00:30:10,975 --> 00:30:13,937
"I was heartened recently
when Stephanie remembered
593
00:30:14,020 --> 00:30:16,648
that when she came
to visit us one summer,
594
00:30:16,731 --> 00:30:19,442
I would come down when
they were in bed and say,
595
00:30:19,526 --> 00:30:21,903
'Oh. What's this? A bag of potatoes?'
596
00:30:21,986 --> 00:30:24,572
Roll them up in blankets
and carry them around,
597
00:30:24,656 --> 00:30:25,823
slung over my shoulder.
598
00:30:25,907 --> 00:30:28,368
They played with delight."
599
00:30:30,203 --> 00:30:33,623
"I don't even remember
doing those nice things."
600
00:30:36,167 --> 00:30:38,711
"All I remember is
telling ghost stories."
601
00:30:48,346 --> 00:30:50,056
I'm thinking of a photograph
602
00:30:50,139 --> 00:30:53,268
that's in their apartment in New York,
603
00:30:53,351 --> 00:30:55,728
the gallery wall of
photographs jammed in,
604
00:30:55,812 --> 00:30:59,315
and my dad did it all himself
with a hammer and nail.
605
00:30:59,399 --> 00:31:01,442
One of them is this
picture of my parents
606
00:31:01,526 --> 00:31:05,196
on the Aspetuck
River in a yellow raft."
607
00:31:06,155 --> 00:31:09,617
"I'm probably not imagining
that my dad has a beer.
608
00:31:09,701 --> 00:31:13,538
Pushing off and floating
down the Aspetuck together
609
00:31:13,621 --> 00:31:17,792
when they just needed to get away.
610
00:31:17,875 --> 00:31:21,504
It was just those moments
which I think, you know,
611
00:31:21,588 --> 00:31:25,592
are the... really the fabric
that held them together."
612
00:31:27,594 --> 00:31:29,512
Fairest voice, softest hair,
613
00:31:29,596 --> 00:31:31,514
eyes the color of the starlit night.
614
00:31:32,890 --> 00:31:36,644
Most beautiful woman
in all of creation.
615
00:31:36,728 --> 00:31:37,687
That's who that is.
616
00:31:39,939 --> 00:31:42,066
I don't want to get
academic about this,
617
00:31:42,150 --> 00:31:43,610
but we have a tendency in this country
618
00:31:43,693 --> 00:31:47,697
to make legends out of
a great many characters.
619
00:31:47,780 --> 00:31:50,658
Roy Bean is something
of an example of that.
620
00:31:50,742 --> 00:31:53,828
I mean, we make... They
become fairy tales, really.
621
00:31:53,911 --> 00:31:55,580
The ancient Greeks
622
00:31:55,663 --> 00:31:59,375
worshipped at the feet of Aphrodite.
623
00:31:59,459 --> 00:32:02,420
They loved mortal women as well.
624
00:32:02,503 --> 00:32:05,423
The same goes for me.
625
00:32:05,506 --> 00:32:07,216
How about the "Time" review?
626
00:32:07,300 --> 00:32:08,635
Of what?
627
00:32:08,718 --> 00:32:09,927
Of "Judge Roy Bean." They
haven't told you about it?
628
00:32:12,805 --> 00:32:15,850
It was a very good review for the bear,
629
00:32:15,933 --> 00:32:18,895
and a rather poor,
shabby review for myself.
630
00:32:18,978 --> 00:32:21,022
Hey, you, bear! Hey, bear!
631
00:32:23,941 --> 00:32:25,985
I'll have your hand as well!
632
00:32:26,069 --> 00:32:28,196
I know! I know! I know!
633
00:32:28,279 --> 00:32:30,531
That is kind of interesting
634
00:32:30,615 --> 00:32:31,949
because it really shows
635
00:32:32,033 --> 00:32:34,160
a complete ignorance about acting.
636
00:32:34,243 --> 00:32:35,495
I mean, there is no...
637
00:32:35,578 --> 00:32:37,830
What? You're better than the bear?
638
00:32:37,914 --> 00:32:39,707
No.
639
00:32:39,791 --> 00:32:42,460
If you... if you're worth
your salt as an actor,
640
00:32:42,543 --> 00:32:45,505
you stand back gracefully
and give the bear the scene.
641
00:32:47,215 --> 00:32:49,133
Who do you think is
the best-adjusted star?
642
00:32:49,217 --> 00:32:51,135
Someone who is not a prisoner of fame.
643
00:32:51,219 --> 00:32:52,220
Do you know what I mean?
644
00:32:52,303 --> 00:32:53,721
I think my father's real good.
645
00:32:53,805 --> 00:32:55,098
You think he's really good at it? Yeah.
646
00:32:55,181 --> 00:32:56,474
In what sense? I really do.
647
00:32:56,557 --> 00:32:59,811
He's very down to earth.
648
00:32:59,894 --> 00:33:02,438
He seems to separate
his professional life
649
00:33:02,522 --> 00:33:04,691
from his personal life fairly well
650
00:33:04,774 --> 00:33:08,486
and maintain some level
of sanity in the middle.
651
00:33:08,569 --> 00:33:11,197
Yeah. Do you think he's proud of you?
652
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:13,616
He loves me.
653
00:33:13,700 --> 00:33:16,160
Yes, I think he is proud of me.
654
00:33:17,829 --> 00:33:20,039
You know, when your life
655
00:33:20,123 --> 00:33:21,416
is so much playing roles,
656
00:33:21,499 --> 00:33:24,168
it seems like the idea
of being a movie star
657
00:33:24,252 --> 00:33:26,713
is almost like another role to play.
658
00:33:26,796 --> 00:33:29,257
Do you ever feel that?
659
00:33:29,340 --> 00:33:31,092
I feel that, but I don't play it.
660
00:33:31,175 --> 00:33:33,761
That's... that's a real drag.
661
00:33:33,845 --> 00:33:37,181
"In this business,
the division of a star
662
00:33:37,265 --> 00:33:39,267
is somebody like Newman.
663
00:33:39,350 --> 00:33:40,685
He says he'll do a picture,
664
00:33:40,768 --> 00:33:43,479
and you can get $20
million to make a picture.
665
00:33:43,563 --> 00:33:45,356
That's a star.
666
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:47,692
But then at the same
time, so is Liberace."
667
00:33:47,775 --> 00:33:50,111
This is it. This is the big one.
668
00:33:50,194 --> 00:33:53,531
This is "The Towering Inferno."
669
00:33:53,614 --> 00:33:55,158
This is the picture,
ladies and gentlemen,
670
00:33:55,241 --> 00:33:57,452
that we here at 20th
Century Fox believe
671
00:33:57,535 --> 00:33:59,954
will be the biggest
grosser of next year.
672
00:34:00,037 --> 00:34:03,541
Bigger, we think and hope, even
than "The Poseidon Adventure."
673
00:34:03,624 --> 00:34:06,294
How many fuse terminals did you check?
674
00:34:11,215 --> 00:34:14,135
How many fuse terminals did you check?
675
00:34:14,218 --> 00:34:16,637
How many do I have to?
676
00:34:16,721 --> 00:34:19,640
What was it that actually
attracted you to this part
677
00:34:19,724 --> 00:34:21,517
in "Towering Inferno"?
678
00:34:21,601 --> 00:34:23,728
Can you talk about that?
679
00:34:23,811 --> 00:34:25,980
There's this interview
with Paul where he's...
680
00:34:26,063 --> 00:34:28,399
They're asking why he's
doing "Towering Inferno," right?
681
00:34:28,483 --> 00:34:29,692
It's like, "Look,
682
00:34:29,776 --> 00:34:31,819
it's all anybody wants
to make right now."
683
00:34:31,903 --> 00:34:33,738
It's gonna be frightening.
684
00:34:36,532 --> 00:34:40,286
It's original in that
it deals with, uh...
685
00:34:40,369 --> 00:34:43,623
The adventure is... is
cloaked in an original envelope,
686
00:34:43,706 --> 00:34:47,418
which is the height and fire.
687
00:34:47,502 --> 00:34:51,839
And you feel him... and I see it
in some of his weirder movies...
688
00:34:51,923 --> 00:34:54,175
longing to do something original.
689
00:35:01,766 --> 00:35:04,352
Robert Altman and Paul
Newman are making a film
690
00:35:04,435 --> 00:35:07,021
about the selling of
an American legend.
691
00:35:07,105 --> 00:35:08,397
Together, they are re-creating
692
00:35:08,481 --> 00:35:11,859
the greatest Wild West
extravaganza ever staged.
693
00:35:11,943 --> 00:35:14,487
"He kept saying that
he was playing himself.
694
00:35:14,570 --> 00:35:15,988
He was Buffalo Bill."
695
00:35:16,072 --> 00:35:18,157
That's my star.
696
00:35:18,241 --> 00:35:21,202
He belongs to all of us.
697
00:35:21,285 --> 00:35:23,371
Our star.
698
00:35:23,454 --> 00:35:24,789
America's.
699
00:35:24,872 --> 00:35:27,041
"He kept saying, 'I'm
not playing Buffalo Bill.
700
00:35:27,125 --> 00:35:29,585
I'm playing Redford,
I'm playing McQueen,
701
00:35:29,669 --> 00:35:31,295
I'm playing Newman.
702
00:35:31,379 --> 00:35:35,424
I'm playing movie stars because
that's what Buffalo Bill is.'"
703
00:35:38,970 --> 00:35:41,722
I just looked upon him
as the first movie star
704
00:35:41,806 --> 00:35:43,432
and went from there.
705
00:35:43,516 --> 00:35:47,228
There's nothing the matter
with laughing at your heroes.
706
00:35:47,311 --> 00:35:48,646
And the reason that I'm enjoying this,
707
00:35:48,729 --> 00:35:50,231
probably more than any other reason,
708
00:35:50,314 --> 00:35:53,651
is that it really murders
me and Redford and Gable
709
00:35:53,734 --> 00:35:57,405
and Tracy and McQueen
because there's simply no way
710
00:35:57,488 --> 00:35:59,448
that a human being can sustain
711
00:35:59,532 --> 00:36:02,577
what has become legendary
about him over the years.
712
00:36:02,660 --> 00:36:04,453
"It's about the beginning of celebrity,
713
00:36:04,537 --> 00:36:06,080
of show business and who makes it out?
714
00:36:06,163 --> 00:36:09,417
The agents, the writers, the
PR people, the producers."
715
00:36:09,500 --> 00:36:11,669
You was just in Europe, wasn't you?
716
00:36:11,752 --> 00:36:13,087
Give my regards to the queen?
717
00:36:13,170 --> 00:36:14,755
Yes, they're still
talking about you, Bill.
718
00:36:14,839 --> 00:36:16,382
Can't wait for your return.
719
00:36:16,465 --> 00:36:18,509
Bill, this will be our biggest year.
720
00:36:18,593 --> 00:36:20,511
We're gonna gross over $2 million.
721
00:36:20,595 --> 00:36:23,764
Did I ever tell you
that I hold the record
722
00:36:23,848 --> 00:36:25,766
for continuous riding of Pony Express,
723
00:36:25,850 --> 00:36:28,603
322 miles in 18 days?
724
00:36:28,686 --> 00:36:29,937
"He was determined to strip
725
00:36:30,021 --> 00:36:32,440
any sense of admiration out of the man,
726
00:36:32,523 --> 00:36:35,026
the frightened man
inside the shell of a star,
727
00:36:35,109 --> 00:36:37,486
a man who had tremendous
scorn for himself."
728
00:36:37,570 --> 00:36:41,449
Can he ride that horse right?
729
00:36:41,532 --> 00:36:43,367
But if he ain't...
730
00:36:46,954 --> 00:36:50,166
How come all of you
took him for a king?
731
00:37:04,931 --> 00:37:06,807
Whatever was happening,
732
00:37:06,891 --> 00:37:08,309
at a certain time every night,
733
00:37:08,392 --> 00:37:11,646
I noticed Paul excused
himself and disappeared,
734
00:37:11,729 --> 00:37:14,273
and I finally asked
him, "Where do you go?"
735
00:37:14,357 --> 00:37:20,112
And where he went was back
to his room every single night,
736
00:37:20,196 --> 00:37:21,781
and he'd call Joanne
737
00:37:21,864 --> 00:37:25,701
and he would talk on the
phone for, like, an hour to Joanne.
738
00:37:25,785 --> 00:37:27,787
I said, "You do that every day?"
739
00:37:27,870 --> 00:37:29,872
He said, "Every day without fail."
740
00:37:36,963 --> 00:37:39,882
"Dear love, what a terrible invention
741
00:37:39,966 --> 00:37:41,050
of the telephone.
742
00:37:41,133 --> 00:37:42,343
At least for me.
743
00:37:42,426 --> 00:37:44,637
Tonight I felt as
though I were intruding
744
00:37:44,720 --> 00:37:46,722
and that you really
didn't want to talk.
745
00:37:46,806 --> 00:37:50,935
I loathe my extrasensory perception.
746
00:37:51,018 --> 00:37:53,187
I miss you.
747
00:37:53,270 --> 00:37:55,815
I don't know who you are.
748
00:37:55,898 --> 00:37:58,067
But I miss you anyway.
749
00:37:58,150 --> 00:38:00,444
I just wish you were happy
750
00:38:00,528 --> 00:38:02,863
and that you could say what you feel,
751
00:38:02,947 --> 00:38:04,365
not just what you think.
752
00:38:04,448 --> 00:38:07,326
Me."
753
00:38:07,410 --> 00:38:10,454
"My love, I'm on board the plane
754
00:38:10,538 --> 00:38:13,124
to Johnstown, Pennsylvania.
755
00:38:13,207 --> 00:38:14,875
I stopped off to the P.J. Clarke's
756
00:38:14,959 --> 00:38:16,585
for a hamburger before embarking,
757
00:38:16,669 --> 00:38:20,548
and I must say I was
filled with nostalgia.
758
00:38:20,631 --> 00:38:23,509
I remember sitting on
the curbside singing songs
759
00:38:23,592 --> 00:38:24,885
at 2:00 in the morning.
760
00:38:24,969 --> 00:38:27,888
The Third Avenue
"L" still in operation.
761
00:38:27,972 --> 00:38:31,559
Your apartment on 51st
Street and 11th Street.
762
00:38:31,642 --> 00:38:33,227
Dancing backstage at 'Picnic.'
763
00:38:33,310 --> 00:38:37,440
No one can deny that these
moments exist in time and space,
764
00:38:37,523 --> 00:38:39,233
and for all we know, may be recorded
765
00:38:39,317 --> 00:38:43,404
at electric energy for eternity
at 180 million miles per second.
766
00:38:45,156 --> 00:38:48,409
"We have access to
all kinds of facsimiles.
767
00:38:48,492 --> 00:38:51,454
Tomorrow, next week, next year.
768
00:38:51,537 --> 00:38:52,830
When we get scratchy,
769
00:38:52,913 --> 00:38:54,957
get going with bad solitary dialogs,
770
00:38:55,041 --> 00:38:56,834
we ought to remember
that we had the option
771
00:38:56,917 --> 00:38:59,378
to choose good solitary dialogs also.
772
00:38:59,462 --> 00:39:03,299
The years bear witness to that."
773
00:39:04,967 --> 00:39:07,970
"Funny thoughts at 22,000 feet.
774
00:39:08,054 --> 00:39:09,263
Kisses. Paul."
775
00:39:15,603 --> 00:39:18,230
"P.S. Got news this morning.
776
00:39:18,314 --> 00:39:22,777
Scott went on another
bad, destructive bender.
777
00:39:22,860 --> 00:39:24,987
Is he gonna survive or not?"
778
00:39:26,864 --> 00:39:29,950
"One wonders."
779
00:39:30,034 --> 00:39:32,787
Now, ladies and gentlemen, here he is,
780
00:39:32,870 --> 00:39:34,622
a chip off the old engine block
781
00:39:34,705 --> 00:39:37,458
of his racing-champion
father Paul Newman,
782
00:39:37,541 --> 00:39:40,586
the young actor Scott Newman.
783
00:40:04,944 --> 00:40:07,196
Scott Newman has successfully
784
00:40:07,279 --> 00:40:10,116
jumped his sports car
over three automobiles.
785
00:40:19,959 --> 00:40:22,878
The geometric shape of the universe
786
00:40:22,962 --> 00:40:26,549
reflects the scheme of life.
787
00:40:26,632 --> 00:40:30,052
You've been taught
that they are the same.
788
00:40:30,136 --> 00:40:33,139
You've been taught that
the universe is bounded
789
00:40:33,222 --> 00:40:34,515
by five sides
790
00:40:34,598 --> 00:40:37,852
and that life has but five stages.
791
00:40:37,935 --> 00:40:43,023
Premium the pain of birth.
792
00:40:43,107 --> 00:40:44,525
of the second some.
793
00:40:44,608 --> 00:40:46,443
"Someday the force
of it's gonna hit me.
794
00:40:46,527 --> 00:40:48,737
All of it. It still hasn't."
795
00:40:50,656 --> 00:40:52,700
"I don't know what will trigger it,
796
00:40:52,783 --> 00:40:54,577
but it's still not resolved."
797
00:40:56,829 --> 00:40:59,290
"I did everything I could
to avoid recognizing
798
00:40:59,373 --> 00:41:01,792
that this had happened.
799
00:41:01,876 --> 00:41:03,919
I got a call very early in the morning
800
00:41:04,003 --> 00:41:06,380
and went to some kind of a brunch.
801
00:41:06,463 --> 00:41:08,465
Didn't say anything to anybody."
802
00:41:11,135 --> 00:41:13,721
"The whole thing had been
blunted by all those phone calls
803
00:41:13,804 --> 00:41:15,347
over the last six or seven years,
804
00:41:15,431 --> 00:41:17,892
every one of which seemed to
say it's just around the corner.
805
00:41:17,975 --> 00:41:21,312
Something terrible was gonna happen.
806
00:41:21,395 --> 00:41:22,897
There's been a crash. He's missing.
807
00:41:22,980 --> 00:41:24,106
Nobody can find him.
808
00:41:24,190 --> 00:41:27,568
Calls from his doctors, from Susan.
809
00:41:27,651 --> 00:41:28,903
It just seemed like there was nothing
810
00:41:28,986 --> 00:41:31,822
that was ever gonna
stop that locomotive.
811
00:41:31,906 --> 00:41:34,283
You kept waiting for the final call."
812
00:41:35,993 --> 00:41:39,455
"But when you finally got it,
you almost didn't believe it."
813
00:41:46,170 --> 00:41:49,089
"I had many times
gotten down on my knees
814
00:41:49,173 --> 00:41:51,759
and asked for Scott's
forgiveness for that part of me
815
00:41:51,842 --> 00:41:55,179
which provided the
impetus for his destruction."
816
00:41:57,181 --> 00:42:00,476
"I want to embrace the
responsibility for that."
817
00:42:03,020 --> 00:42:05,731
And you can't unload your
skis when you can't dance,
818
00:42:05,814 --> 00:42:09,151
when you can't hit a tennis ball
819
00:42:09,235 --> 00:42:11,028
or read the signals about your son
820
00:42:11,111 --> 00:42:15,282
until the condition is
beyond reversing it.
821
00:42:15,366 --> 00:42:16,617
And if you didn't get it,
822
00:42:16,700 --> 00:42:20,829
then you are someone
who doesn't get it.
823
00:42:20,913 --> 00:42:23,624
The only thing you can
do is say, 'Forgive me.'"
824
00:42:25,125 --> 00:42:28,629
"And the energy up there
that represents that kid will say,
825
00:42:28,712 --> 00:42:32,758
'What am I supposed to do with that?'
826
00:42:32,841 --> 00:42:34,635
and give you the finger."
827
00:42:48,899 --> 00:42:51,193
"Paul went straight to the mortuary.
828
00:42:51,277 --> 00:42:55,030
He said it was a totally
complete experience.
829
00:42:55,114 --> 00:42:59,827
He said he just really had
to go there and be with Scott.
830
00:42:59,910 --> 00:43:02,997
And he said, 'I suddenly knew him
831
00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:06,458
and I was able to weep and
look at him and love him.'"
832
00:43:20,139 --> 00:43:22,224
"I kept trying to get
myself to go see Scott
833
00:43:22,308 --> 00:43:24,435
in the mortuary.
834
00:43:24,518 --> 00:43:27,021
The night before I was going to go,
835
00:43:27,104 --> 00:43:32,067
I dreamed one of the most vivid
dreams I'd ever had in my life.
836
00:43:32,151 --> 00:43:34,278
Clea and Emily, who
were little girls in the dream
837
00:43:34,361 --> 00:43:36,530
and not the ages they were at the time,
838
00:43:36,614 --> 00:43:41,118
they were going with me
to the mortuary to see Scott.
839
00:43:41,201 --> 00:43:46,040
We went up some stairs into
a room where Scott was lying,
840
00:43:46,123 --> 00:43:48,876
and he sat up and
sort of threw his legs
841
00:43:48,959 --> 00:43:50,711
over the edge of the coffin.
842
00:43:50,794 --> 00:43:53,422
He was sitting on the
side and we talked."
843
00:43:59,011 --> 00:44:02,181
"It was very warm, very loving.
844
00:44:02,264 --> 00:44:07,478
And after we've been talking for
a good while, he began to glow.
845
00:44:07,561 --> 00:44:09,938
And he realized he was glowing.
846
00:44:10,022 --> 00:44:13,609
And he said, 'I think
you better go now.'"
847
00:44:15,611 --> 00:44:19,531
And I said, 'But Susan and
Lissy want a lock of your hair.'
848
00:44:19,615 --> 00:44:22,826
And he said, 'Alright.'
849
00:44:22,910 --> 00:44:25,871
His hair turned into leaves.
850
00:44:25,954 --> 00:44:29,792
And I remember cutting it
and thinking, 'How strange.
851
00:44:29,875 --> 00:44:32,419
Now, how am I gonna
put this in a locket?'"
852
00:44:41,970 --> 00:44:45,015
"I really, really believe and still do
853
00:44:45,099 --> 00:44:47,976
that that was a clear visitation."
854
00:44:59,196 --> 00:45:03,492
"When I heard the
terrible tragedy with Scott,
855
00:45:03,575 --> 00:45:07,413
I went to his dressing
room, his trailer.
856
00:45:07,496 --> 00:45:10,082
And we embraced.
857
00:45:10,165 --> 00:45:15,629
I said, 'Paul, I don't know how to...
858
00:45:15,712 --> 00:45:18,382
I don't know what one says to a person.
859
00:45:18,465 --> 00:45:20,634
I mean, I can conceive
of anything in the world
860
00:45:20,717 --> 00:45:21,927
but losing a child.
861
00:45:22,010 --> 00:45:26,056
I just don't know what to say.'"
862
00:45:28,559 --> 00:45:31,145
He just said, 'Okay, sport.'
863
00:45:39,278 --> 00:45:41,363
I don't have a great
memory about some things,
864
00:45:41,447 --> 00:45:43,615
and I can't tell you exactly
what he talked about,
865
00:45:43,699 --> 00:45:47,619
but it was the first personal
conversation I'd ever had.
866
00:45:47,703 --> 00:45:50,622
It wasn't a deep conversation.
867
00:45:50,706 --> 00:45:52,916
It was really just a conversation
868
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:54,251
about how tough it is
869
00:45:54,334 --> 00:45:57,713
to be the son of someone
who's an achiever.
870
00:45:57,796 --> 00:45:59,089
You know, he said,
871
00:45:59,173 --> 00:46:01,592
'I don't think I'd want
to be my own son.'"
872
00:46:03,510 --> 00:46:06,221
"And this racing thing
that he's done, I mean,
873
00:46:06,305 --> 00:46:08,557
to start at his age...'
874
00:46:18,275 --> 00:46:21,195
"You see, I think people who
do these things must see living
875
00:46:21,278 --> 00:46:24,281
as very, very dangerous.
876
00:46:24,364 --> 00:46:28,494
It's a dangerous thing to
get up in the morning and live.
877
00:46:28,577 --> 00:46:31,205
It's very dangerous and
you can't do much about that.
878
00:46:31,288 --> 00:46:33,373
But you can get into a
semi-dangerous situation
879
00:46:33,457 --> 00:46:35,209
that's controllable."
880
00:46:35,292 --> 00:46:37,753
This last year, Paul's
fascination with racing
881
00:46:37,836 --> 00:46:39,963
has been such that he's
competed in more events
882
00:46:40,047 --> 00:46:41,924
than he ever has before.
883
00:46:42,007 --> 00:46:44,134
Some people think
he's spending more time
884
00:46:44,218 --> 00:46:47,387
with his racing career now
than with his movie career.
885
00:46:49,306 --> 00:46:50,432
I was worried about it.
886
00:46:50,516 --> 00:46:52,351
I really was seriously concerned.
887
00:46:52,434 --> 00:46:54,061
His whole career looked as though
888
00:46:54,144 --> 00:46:55,395
it was gonna go down the drain
889
00:46:55,479 --> 00:46:58,732
because all he wanted to do was race.
890
00:46:58,815 --> 00:47:00,567
"Life is a minefield.
891
00:47:00,651 --> 00:47:02,110
You can be hurt very badly,
892
00:47:02,194 --> 00:47:06,198
and you can be killed
emotionally in a way.
893
00:47:06,281 --> 00:47:08,784
Or I think that's what people fear.
894
00:47:08,867 --> 00:47:11,787
I know I do.
895
00:47:11,870 --> 00:47:15,916
You cannot make life
controlled. You cannot control it.
896
00:47:15,999 --> 00:47:17,251
You cannot master life.
897
00:47:17,334 --> 00:47:20,420
You can't master
the technique of life."
898
00:47:26,301 --> 00:47:27,469
He's not a lot of spins.
899
00:47:27,553 --> 00:47:29,429
And there's been a couple of times
900
00:47:29,513 --> 00:47:31,223
when we didn't come around.
901
00:47:31,306 --> 00:47:32,933
I'm sitting, waiting, and saying,
902
00:47:33,016 --> 00:47:34,685
"What happened? Where did he go?"
903
00:47:38,063 --> 00:47:41,775
Man #7 "If I do the wrong
thing here, I'm gonna crash.
904
00:47:41,858 --> 00:47:45,779
And if I learn how to do it
right, we're not gonna crash."
905
00:47:47,364 --> 00:47:49,825
"Then it's gonna be beautiful.
906
00:47:49,908 --> 00:47:51,326
We're gonna fly away."
907
00:47:58,750 --> 00:48:01,920
Just drive the race
and try to stay alive.
68736
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