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CASSIE: Of all the names
and numbers in the diary...
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Elizabeth Wilton...
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I did what I did because he made me.
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He made you join the National Front?
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.. Frank Phillip Cross...
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PINION: Frank was very good at
getting money that was owed to us.
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- He liked the bolt cutters.
- It's not true.
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- .. Eric Slater...
- Yeah, I knew Jimmy. Nice lad.
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- Jo-Jo? - She was at it
in one of the storage rooms.
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Yeah, with what's his face from St Gildas.
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- I'm sorry. I don't
feel very well. - Dad?
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I never got it out, you know?
You need a cold soak first.
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It's blood, isn't it?
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SUNNY: He only went into a
wheelchair in his mid-30s.
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So in '76, he was perfectly able.
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โช OH WONDER: All We Do
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โช All we do is hide away
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โช All we do is, All we do is hide away
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โช All we do is lie in wait
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โช All we do is, All we do is lie in wait
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โช I have been upside down
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โช I don't wanna be the right way round
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โช Can't find paradise on the ground โช
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SUNNY: So later on last
night, about half-ten,
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Aisha comes into my room to tell
me that Gemma has -- once again --
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been Snapchatting pictures of her
bottom to some lad in her class.
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- Oh, nice (!)
- Two hours later -- two hours --
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I finally managed to find
her phone and confiscate it.
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Yeah, and it probably isn't
even a lad in her class.
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It's probably some retired colonel
from East Grinstead posing as him.
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Guv, sometimes the things you say
just... just make me feel worse.
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Hashtag 'Just saying'.
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OK? (CLEARS THROAT)
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(GEESE HONKING)
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LES: Yeah, no, it looks
worse than it actually is.
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Exactly. Yeah, I'll get one
of those rubber bath mats.
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All right then, love. OK. I'll
be back in about 20 minutes.
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Bye.
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Right. Here we go.
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Thanks, matey.
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Come on, Mother. Tuck in.
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- I don't want to be here, Les.
- Change the record, love.
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I want to be somewhere safe.
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- I know. I --
- No, she's safe here.
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Please?
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Dad, I --
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Dad!
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One more word, one more fucking
word from either of you!
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Will you calm down?!
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You did slip, didn't you, Mum?
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Of course.
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Thomas Pinion is a lifelong alcoholic,
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who could say one thing
to you, another to me
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and another to a newspaper.
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Who will also, of course, be paying him.
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As, indeed, he said erm, you were...
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to stay silent about your
activities with the Fenwick family.
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Except he's lying.
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His bank records confirm six sums
of ยฃ2,000 paid into his account,
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over a period of five years from 2004.
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And what proof do you have this
has anything to do with my client?
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Er, no proof, yet. Because they were cash.
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But obviously, if we went
through your business records
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and found any petty cash
transactions matching these sums...
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we'd be concerned.
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Look. I fully admit...
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for a few months 40 years ago,
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I associated with some people
I sincerely wish I hadn't.
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But...
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If I was the sort of person who
could've done what you allege...
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.. could I really be what I am now?
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Quite a lot of people might say
it was an essential qualification.
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(CHUCKLES)
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People make mistakes.
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That doesn't make me a murderer.
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Hm.
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(SIREN WAILING)
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What you waiting about for, lads?
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Come on, five laps, easy jog.
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- (CLAPPING HANDS)
- Where's Curtis?
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No idea. Why?
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Come on, lads. Let's be 'aving you.
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- Maybe he ain't here cos of her.
- Why's that, then, mate?
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- Just heard some things, innit?
- Yeah? What things?
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- 'Bout dem bitch!
- Don't you ever...
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talk about my wife, like that.
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- You get me, BLUD?
- OK, man.
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- Ever.
- OK, I get it, I get it!
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Whatever Curtis told you...
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.. ANY of you...
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whatever he thinks he heard,
I'm telling you he got it wrong!
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You got that?
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(GULLS SQUAWKING)
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(DOOR OPENS)
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Rob, it's half-five and you have Mass.
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I need you to sit down.
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I need to tell you something.
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I don't need to sit down. What is it?
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What do you need to tell me?
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The young man the police
were asking me about --
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and I promise I really don't
know anything about how he died.
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But the real reason
they were talking to me
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was because I had a connection
to him that wasn't just work.
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It was a woman.
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A young woman called Joanna.
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- Who used to --
- I remember Joanna.
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She was a girl, not a woman.
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A young girl.
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A young person.
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Who I am ashamed to tell you now
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that I had a very, very
brief relationship with.
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So sorry, Grace.
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It was 39 years ago but...
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I can't imagine that makes
it any easier to hear now.
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As I say, it was fleeting.
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It was a few weeks at most.
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But it was a shameful thing to do.
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And all I can do now is...
is beg your forgiveness.
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What year was this?
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1976.
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We only got married the year before.
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It was a terrible mistake.
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And I am so, so sorry.
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So in June 1973...
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Slater was arrested following a
fight outside a pub in Kentish Town.
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- What he get?
- Bound over. Victim didn't turn up.
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The victim? What was
this? It an assault or --
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It's confusing. The arresting
officer has it down as a fight
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but it's listed as an
assault in the courts.
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- Have you got the name
of the plaintiff? - Yeah.
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Name of Paul Brian West.
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I spoke to his sister. West
himself died five years ago but...
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- she said she didn't
know anything. - Ah, OK.
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Jake?
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Slightly like pulling teeth, guv.
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I've got 50 possible names here,
hostel residents at Arlingham House
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that might have known
Elizabeth Lawes or Erskine,
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and for every single name I've got
30, 40 people in the same name,
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and they're all Duncan
Morrison or Wendy Haines or --
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Yeah, OK, OK.
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I suspect it's time we got a
picture of Jimmy into the papers.
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- Sunny, will you talk to the DPA?
- Yeah, no problem.
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- Murray, any joy with Jo-Jo?
- Nothing on the census.
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What about Greaves's phone records?
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No, all the numbers he rang from
his mobile, his landline are kosher.
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OK um, find out where the nearest
payphone is to his house,
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and see if BT will provide us
with every number rung from there
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from... When did you call his
dioceses for contact details?
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Er... Monday PM, just after lunch.
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Yeah, from Monday midday
till midnight same day.
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It's worth a try.
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Robert Greaves had a relationship
with Jimmy Sullivan's girlfriend.
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Now, if Jimmy found out, got mad...
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.. went round to confront him...
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.. who knows where that ended?
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Well, except maybe Jo-Jo does.
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Suze, have a look at this, will you?
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It's his scaphoid, which is
split -- post-mortem I assumed,
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except when I put the two bits together,
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that's a hole, isn't it?
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Like something's been driven through it.
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Something like a... nail.
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I've seen it before with
gangland punishment murders.
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'A nail hammered through the hand.'
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Very often a precursor
to other forms of torture.
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- All right. Thanks.
- 'You're welcome.'
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CROSS: If Pinion's lies
are all the police have,
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I wouldn't be too worried.
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But couple of days ago, Gordon Fenwick...
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called me from Cyprus, threatening
to go to the police himself with...
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.. with some other stuff.
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- What other stuff?
- More lies, detail's not really important.
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What is important is what
the police might believe.
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- And he wants money?
- Course.
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S-So what are you gonna do?
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Your Turkish friends...
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.. I might need you to call them for me.
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I'm not talking anything
stupid, just a quiet word.
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For a man like Fenwick, I
suspect that'll be enough.
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Dad, are you sure? That is quite a move.
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Gordon Fenwick could get
me jailed for murder,
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a murder I had absolutely
nothing to do with.
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We need him to back off.
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And fast.
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Yeah, what I wanna know
is if it's possible
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to tell me what numbers were
called from this payphone
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from midday on the 23rd
to approximately midnight.
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Brilliant. Yeah, great.
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Yeah.
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ERIC: Yeah, I think it was
probably the only fight...
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I ever got into. I-I'd had a skinful,
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as I remember, and I think he had as well.
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Right. Do you remember what it was about?
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Football. I'm afraid.
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I'm a Blade. For my sins. He was a Gooner.
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I think we'd just beaten them and
one of us must've said something.
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It all kicked off...
Stupid, just stupid, really.
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I mean, put it down to
the impetuosity of youth.
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Hopefully I've grown up a
bit since then. (CHUCKLES)
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In the court documents, it has
it down as you assaulting him,
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which er... implies that you started it.
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Well... then I expect I did.
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I mean, you know, I was
drunk. As I say. I...
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I can't really remember
an awful lot about it.
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Sorry.
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Yeah, my real name's Alan Mackay,
but everyone calls me Mackie.
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Well, thanks so much for getting in touch.
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And just so I can be absolutely clear,
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as well as Jimmy, I think you said
you knew Vincent Erskine as well.
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Vince? Yeah. And Beth, his girlfriend.
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- You knew Elizabeth?
- 'I did, aye.'
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OK, Mackie, could I
come talk to you, please?
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Er, soon as possible would be good.
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I mean, do you think it
was just a one-off or...?
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I don't know. We didn't get that far.
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But if he could've done it
once, got away with it...
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why shouldn't there have been others?
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- Mum, I'm so sorry.
- I am, too.
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For you both.
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I mean, I suppose all you can say is...
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.. it was 40 years ago and...
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And what?
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What, you think that makes it better?
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Jesus, it makes it worse!
Ellie, it's our whole lives.
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Our whole relationship
with him feels like a lie.
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Does it?
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Look, he's... He's still our dad.
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I mean, clearly he made
a terrible mistake but --
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But... But what? I can't
believe you're defending him.
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I'm not defending what he did. I'm...
I'm trying to find a way through this.
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He had sex with a child, for God's sake!
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Caz, she wasn't a child. She was 17.
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If he'd have been caught
today, he would go to prison.
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- Do you not get that?
- Of course I get that, but I...
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But what?
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What, they were different times?
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Bollocks.
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She was a kid. She was
one of his congregation.
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He was in a position of
power and he abused it.
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I'm sorry if you think I'm overreacting.
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But I am scared.
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It makes me ask... what
sort of man is he really?
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Why are the police asking him
about this boy that was found?
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00:15:17,520 --> 00:15:20,760
It makes me ask what
else he could've done.
245
00:15:22,040 --> 00:15:25,430
MACKIE: It was only her
that stayed at the hostel.
246
00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:29,790
- JAKE: Elizabeth? - Erskine wasn't allowed
to stay cos he always got into fights.
247
00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:33,470
- Right. - Anyway, I got talking
to him in the garden one day,
248
00:15:33,520 --> 00:15:36,190
cos at that time I was still using.
249
00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:39,790
I let him spout his
racist rubbish for a bit.
250
00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:44,790
Until he started talking about this black
lad he reckoned had some money on him.
251
00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:46,630
And he wanted to know whether I fancied
252
00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:48,830
helping him rob the lad
that night in his room.
253
00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:51,950
And was this just him,
or was Beth there too?
254
00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:56,710
Well... She was there, like,
you know, in the background,
255
00:15:56,760 --> 00:15:59,790
but er... not actually
part of the conversation.
256
00:15:59,840 --> 00:16:02,590
And so what did you say?
257
00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:05,670
Well... I didn't say much,
258
00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:08,830
because I didn't want
him to know that er...
259
00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:11,870
that Jimmy was actually
a good friend of mine.
260
00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:13,950
You know, and obviously
I was gonna warn him.
261
00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:17,520
- And did you warn him?
- I went to look for him but er...
262
00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:21,590
Somebody offered me some gear.
263
00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:25,150
By the time I was straight
again it was two days later.
264
00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:28,600
And sir, did you find
out if he'd been robbed?
265
00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:32,200
No, I didn't.
266
00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:36,360
In fact, I... I never saw Jimmy again.
267
00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:08,280
Looks just like one of our lads.
268
00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:09,920
Don't he?
269
00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:13,910
I remember when erm...
270
00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:18,870
you first suggested that we should
start up the er, football squad.
271
00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:21,670
It wasn't long after Michael had died,
272
00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:28,720
and I always thought that it was er,
your way of finding some meaning...
273
00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:34,120
.. out of HIS death.
274
00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:39,750
If you think I killed this boy, Ray...
275
00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:41,830
just say it.
276
00:17:41,880 --> 00:17:44,020
How can I know, Lizzie?
277
00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:49,480
How could I have any idea
of what you were capable of?
278
00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:53,200
Back then.
279
00:17:57,880 --> 00:18:00,590
MAUREEN: We stopped at the
services for some supper,
280
00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:03,550
which was very nice, and then
got back here about 11:00.
281
00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:05,510
CASSIE: 'And what have you got on today?'
282
00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:08,190
Oh, Thursday's lunch club, every week.
283
00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:10,390
Lunch club? Why wasn't I invited?
284
00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:12,590
Well, I'll put you down for next week so.
285
00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:14,470
'Yeah. Yeah, I'll be there.'
286
00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:16,270
Ah, they're a good gang.
287
00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:18,710
'I was telling them about
you, you know, and...
288
00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:22,910
about Jimmy coming home and er,
they were very happy for me.'
289
00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:24,590
He rang her from the callbox.
290
00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:27,720
Jo-Jo. Her name's Joanna Bridges.
291
00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:29,920
We found Jo-Jo.
292
00:18:34,740 --> 00:18:37,570
Tell me how you met Jimmy Sullivan.
293
00:18:37,620 --> 00:18:40,130
I met Jimmy through the church.
294
00:18:40,180 --> 00:18:43,370
Went out with him for... maybe six months.
295
00:18:43,420 --> 00:18:46,780
Oh, this was before or after your
relationship with Father Robert?
296
00:18:47,820 --> 00:18:49,370
After.
297
00:18:49,420 --> 00:18:53,020
So when was your relationship
with Father Robert?
298
00:18:53,220 --> 00:18:56,170
Late 1975, as I remember.
299
00:18:56,220 --> 00:18:58,220
How late?
300
00:18:58,420 --> 00:19:00,410
Just before Christmas. November, I think.
301
00:19:00,460 --> 00:19:02,690
I mean, it was just a few weeks.
302
00:19:02,740 --> 00:19:06,490
So Father Robert said to us
that he thought you were erm...
303
00:19:06,540 --> 00:19:09,810
19 or 20 when he met you.
304
00:19:09,860 --> 00:19:13,570
And so we checked your date of
birth before we came here today.
305
00:19:13,620 --> 00:19:18,700
And actually, if your affair
was in November '75...
306
00:19:21,020 --> 00:19:23,960
.. actually, that would've made you 15.
307
00:19:24,100 --> 00:19:27,130
When the 28-year-old
priest had sex with you.
308
00:19:27,180 --> 00:19:31,740
You weren't 16 till February 1976.
309
00:19:32,900 --> 00:19:36,050
Maybe it was Jimmy first and then Robert.
310
00:19:36,100 --> 00:19:41,090
Except we have a diary,
given to Jimmy... by you.
311
00:19:41,140 --> 00:19:44,930
Erm, in which it says
'With much love, Jo-Jo.'
312
00:19:44,980 --> 00:19:47,250
In December '75.
313
00:19:47,300 --> 00:19:50,460
Which suggests that either you did...
314
00:19:51,940 --> 00:19:54,850
.. have underage sex with a priest...
315
00:19:54,900 --> 00:19:57,840
or at some point after your birthday...
316
00:19:58,900 --> 00:20:01,490
- .. you were seeing both men,
- It was half a lifetime ago.
317
00:20:01,540 --> 00:20:03,130
What the hell does it matter?
318
00:20:03,180 --> 00:20:05,650
It matters because we
think that Jimmy found out
319
00:20:05,700 --> 00:20:08,090
about Robert Greaves and confronted him.
320
00:20:08,140 --> 00:20:11,980
And that altercation may have
resulted in Jimmy's death.
321
00:20:18,700 --> 00:20:21,500
And what proof have you got of that?
322
00:20:22,940 --> 00:20:26,810
- And how credible do you think he
is as a witness? - JAKE: 'Very.'
323
00:20:26,860 --> 00:20:29,130
This guy knew other stuff
I thought only we knew.
324
00:20:29,180 --> 00:20:31,330
SUNNY: 'What other stuff?'
325
00:20:31,380 --> 00:20:35,450
The ยฃ50 we think Jimmy borrowed from
Frank Cross, he knew all about that.
326
00:20:35,500 --> 00:20:38,490
'And, more importantly,
he knew what it was for.'
327
00:20:38,540 --> 00:20:41,290
- Which was?
- 'To pay for an abortion.'
328
00:20:41,340 --> 00:20:44,890
Jimmy told Alan Mackay that his
girlfriend had fallen pregnant.
329
00:20:44,940 --> 00:20:47,890
- And Jimmy was the father?
- Why else would he pay for it?
330
00:20:47,940 --> 00:20:51,850
- Cos she said he was.
- I'll ask my man exactly what Jimmy told him.
331
00:20:51,900 --> 00:20:54,330
OK. It's lots to think about.
332
00:20:54,380 --> 00:20:56,930
Let's bring Elizabeth Wilton in ASAP.
333
00:20:56,980 --> 00:21:00,730
Excellent work, Jake. Murray,
any joy with Tommy Pinion?
334
00:21:00,780 --> 00:21:05,530
He said that he'd never seen Cross
put a nail through anyone's hand
335
00:21:05,580 --> 00:21:07,970
but heard from others that he had.
336
00:21:08,020 --> 00:21:11,010
'Well, Dr Rawlins is pretty
convinced that's what it is, so...
337
00:21:11,060 --> 00:21:14,490
somebody did it. We keep
the pressure on Cross.'
338
00:21:14,540 --> 00:21:16,540
(HANGS UP)
339
00:21:32,660 --> 00:21:34,930
Yes, it's me.
340
00:21:34,980 --> 00:21:37,010
Why did Fenwick send those to you?
341
00:21:37,060 --> 00:21:39,410
Well, I'm guessing he's
already contacted Dad
342
00:21:39,460 --> 00:21:41,800
and Dad isn't playing ball.
343
00:21:43,620 --> 00:21:46,850
Well... the man in those
pictures is white.
344
00:21:46,900 --> 00:21:48,490
That lad in the papers was black.
345
00:21:48,540 --> 00:21:50,650
He's still nailing his
hand to a workbench, Mum.
346
00:21:50,700 --> 00:21:53,290
I'm just saying.
347
00:21:53,340 --> 00:21:55,370
There's nothing in these to suggest
348
00:21:55,420 --> 00:21:57,850
he had anything to do
with killing that lad.
349
00:21:57,900 --> 00:22:01,820
Fine. But trust me, he doesn't
want the police to see these.
350
00:22:02,660 --> 00:22:06,170
I should also say that the images
obviously depict a crime scene,
351
00:22:06,220 --> 00:22:08,690
which, as of now, I've failed to act upon.
352
00:22:08,740 --> 00:22:10,850
So if Fenwick doesn't get what he wants,
353
00:22:10,900 --> 00:22:14,220
and he shows his email to me to
the police, we're BOTH screwed.
354
00:22:15,740 --> 00:22:18,340
I'll pay him off. I have before.
355
00:22:21,300 --> 00:22:23,180
- Fenwick?
- Yes.
356
00:22:25,020 --> 00:22:27,020
How many times?
357
00:22:30,580 --> 00:22:33,740
- A few.
- (KNOCKING)
358
00:22:43,100 --> 00:22:45,100
It's the police.
359
00:22:49,100 --> 00:22:51,100
(CHATTER)
360
00:23:07,380 --> 00:23:09,380
Hey, Mum.
361
00:23:12,700 --> 00:23:16,490
Hello, my lovely son. How
completely gorgeous to see you.
362
00:23:16,540 --> 00:23:19,210
Tell me you're staying for months.
363
00:23:20,940 --> 00:23:24,610
Have you any actual proof --
other than Pinion's fantasies --
364
00:23:24,660 --> 00:23:28,260
that I did anything like
this, to Jimmy Sullivan?
365
00:23:28,620 --> 00:23:30,330
We have a wound on Jimmy's hand
366
00:23:30,380 --> 00:23:33,880
that's entirely consistent
with such an assault.
367
00:23:35,020 --> 00:23:37,690
But nothing connecting that to me?
368
00:23:38,140 --> 00:23:39,970
Not yet.
369
00:23:40,020 --> 00:23:43,220
But I sense we're getting
closer. Don't you?
370
00:23:45,820 --> 00:23:47,490
So we'll probably go to Faliraki now.
371
00:23:47,540 --> 00:23:50,130
Nige's brother's got a bar
there and he said me and Belter
372
00:23:50,180 --> 00:23:52,610
can have a room for three
nights a week bar work.
373
00:23:52,660 --> 00:23:54,730
Mind you, that's if Belter
sorts out his teeth.
374
00:23:54,780 --> 00:23:58,170
His girlfriend smacked him with a table
tennis bat cos he joked about her art.
375
00:23:58,220 --> 00:24:00,090
(CHUCKLES)
376
00:24:00,140 --> 00:24:02,250
What?
377
00:24:02,300 --> 00:24:05,700
- Keep going.
- Why are you smiling like that?
378
00:24:06,100 --> 00:24:08,010
Because I love you.
379
00:24:08,060 --> 00:24:11,460
Just keep talking. Just
keep telling me stuff.
380
00:24:11,900 --> 00:24:15,610
Well, anyway, he's gotta
have two implants now,
381
00:24:15,660 --> 00:24:17,330
and Nige says he should to go India.
382
00:24:17,380 --> 00:24:20,810
His dad got eight new teeth in
Delhi for less than a grand.
383
00:24:20,860 --> 00:24:23,210
His mouth doesn't shut
properly but his missus says
384
00:24:23,260 --> 00:24:26,050
keeping his mouth shut was never
a core skill anyway, so...
385
00:24:26,100 --> 00:24:27,850
"Plus ca change," as Proust would say.
386
00:24:27,900 --> 00:24:30,570
Do you want fried bread with this?
387
00:25:09,500 --> 00:25:11,850
Yo, Curtis, fam.
388
00:25:11,900 --> 00:25:13,690
Call me.
389
00:25:13,740 --> 00:25:15,940
(GULLS SQUAWKING)
390
00:25:20,340 --> 00:25:22,300
Dad?
391
00:25:23,260 --> 00:25:25,260
Up here.
392
00:25:31,140 --> 00:25:33,140
(SIGHS)
393
00:25:34,060 --> 00:25:36,330
I don't know what to say.
394
00:25:37,140 --> 00:25:40,850
I'd hoped that Mum didn't feel
that she had to tell you now.
395
00:25:40,900 --> 00:25:44,330
- She told us cos of the wedding.
- Oh, no, sweetheart, please,
396
00:25:44,380 --> 00:25:46,450
surely this doesn't affect the wedding?
397
00:25:46,500 --> 00:25:50,000
It's a celebration of the
sanctity of marriage.
398
00:25:50,180 --> 00:25:52,060
Conducted by you.
399
00:25:54,620 --> 00:25:56,930
It was a terrible thing to do.
400
00:25:56,980 --> 00:25:59,970
I completely accept that, but it was...
401
00:26:00,020 --> 00:26:03,330
one mistake, 40 years ago.
402
00:26:03,380 --> 00:26:06,380
In an otherwise very, very happy marriage.
403
00:26:07,340 --> 00:26:10,090
One mistake.
404
00:26:10,140 --> 00:26:13,740
And was it? Really?
405
00:26:15,300 --> 00:26:17,650
Well, yes, of course.
406
00:26:17,700 --> 00:26:21,060
- There was no-one else.
- I don't mean other women, I mean...
407
00:26:23,060 --> 00:26:24,660
Th...
408
00:26:26,140 --> 00:26:27,730
This police investigation.
409
00:26:27,780 --> 00:26:30,580
Oh, my darling, no, no, please.
410
00:26:31,900 --> 00:26:36,100
Please. Don't ask me if
I killed that poor boy.
411
00:26:37,060 --> 00:26:38,970
Please.
412
00:26:39,020 --> 00:26:41,290
Don't make me answer that.
413
00:26:42,900 --> 00:26:45,060
Please.
414
00:26:49,140 --> 00:26:50,610
BETH: Yes.
415
00:26:51,700 --> 00:26:53,900
We robbed him.
416
00:26:54,500 --> 00:26:57,300
- CASSIE: Of his ยฃ50?
- Yes.
417
00:26:59,300 --> 00:27:02,090
So everything that you told us before...
418
00:27:02,140 --> 00:27:05,530
that you have no recollection
of ever having met him...
419
00:27:05,580 --> 00:27:07,530
that was a lie?
420
00:27:07,580 --> 00:27:09,570
Yes.
421
00:27:09,620 --> 00:27:11,970
(CASSIE WRITES)
422
00:27:12,020 --> 00:27:14,330
I wished I could forget him.
423
00:27:14,380 --> 00:27:16,780
Every single day of my life.
424
00:27:19,300 --> 00:27:22,260
So can you tell me how Jimmy died?
425
00:27:23,460 --> 00:27:27,970
I wouldn't for one second
expect you to believe me...
426
00:27:28,020 --> 00:27:29,770
but no.
427
00:27:29,820 --> 00:27:33,010
When I left the room with the money...
428
00:27:33,060 --> 00:27:35,180
Jimmy was fine.
429
00:27:37,380 --> 00:27:40,540
- Erskine was still in there?
- Yes.
430
00:27:42,180 --> 00:27:45,130
And did erm, he have any weapon with him?
431
00:27:45,180 --> 00:27:48,020
- Not that I recall.
- OK.
432
00:27:48,900 --> 00:27:52,600
- So where did you go?
- Outside, to wait for him.
433
00:27:54,020 --> 00:27:56,890
And how long did he take to come down?
434
00:27:58,780 --> 00:28:00,890
Not long. Maybe...
435
00:28:00,940 --> 00:28:03,700
- 30 seconds behind me.
- Right.
436
00:28:05,900 --> 00:28:08,530
And what did he say?
437
00:28:08,580 --> 00:28:11,580
- When he came down.
- He was laughing.
438
00:28:12,820 --> 00:28:16,260
Said Jimmy was a "feisty little bastard".
439
00:28:19,220 --> 00:28:22,810
- Did he have any blood on him?
- I don't think so.
440
00:28:22,860 --> 00:28:25,330
He might've done. I...
441
00:28:25,380 --> 00:28:28,420
was very drunk, so certain details...
442
00:28:30,020 --> 00:28:34,290
You... obviously thought
so little of this young man
443
00:28:34,340 --> 00:28:37,530
that you were able to rob him in his bed.
444
00:28:37,580 --> 00:28:42,460
Yet your name and number were
written down by him in his diary.
445
00:28:43,740 --> 00:28:46,210
How did that happen?
446
00:28:46,260 --> 00:28:48,410
When I first met Jimmy,
447
00:28:48,460 --> 00:28:52,420
it was during a period when I
tried to split up with Erskine.
448
00:28:53,380 --> 00:28:56,780
Only lasted a few weeks before he
got me back, but in that time...
449
00:28:58,580 --> 00:29:01,320
.. I stopped drinking, I got clean.
450
00:29:01,900 --> 00:29:05,200
And Jimmy and I got to
know each other a bit.
451
00:29:07,460 --> 00:29:10,410
And I gave him my number...
452
00:29:10,460 --> 00:29:12,770
cos I hoped...
453
00:29:12,820 --> 00:29:14,820
(SNIFFS)
454
00:29:16,540 --> 00:29:19,140
.. just like...
455
00:29:20,180 --> 00:29:23,480
.. in the few weeks
when I'd been straight...
456
00:29:26,220 --> 00:29:31,500
.. that he'd carry on helping
teach me to read and write.
457
00:29:41,260 --> 00:29:43,610
- Hm.
- Did you expect that?
458
00:29:43,660 --> 00:29:48,130
Guv? It might be nothing, but...
459
00:29:48,180 --> 00:29:49,930
I was just checking out the pub
460
00:29:49,980 --> 00:29:53,250
- where Eric Slater and Paul West
were arrested -- the assault? - Yeah.
461
00:29:53,300 --> 00:29:55,730
Don't know if it's significant but...
462
00:29:55,780 --> 00:29:58,780
it's a gay pub. It has been since, well...
463
00:29:59,620 --> 00:30:01,490
.. since the '60s.
464
00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:14,550
So if we forget him committing the slightly
illegal offence of threatening to kill Fenwick
--
465
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:17,550
- He never said that, Bella.
- Maybe the only other serious option
466
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:20,470
is for him to go to the police
himself with the photos.
467
00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:23,750
If the police see those photos,
it's not gonna be good for him.
468
00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:25,590
Probably not, no.
469
00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:28,150
So what's the minimum term for murder?
470
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:29,790
A mandatory life sentence.
471
00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:33,350
In a case like this, he'd
serve at least 15 years.
472
00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:36,510
So he'd not get out
until he was in his 80s?
473
00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:38,190
If in fact he...
474
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:40,230
In fact, he might not
even make it that far.
475
00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:43,680
- It would effectively widow Mum.
- Except, what if he did it?
476
00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:47,670
Because to me, never mind
that it was 40 years ago,
477
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:50,430
or who or what he is now,
or that he's our dad,
478
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:54,280
if he did it... he has to be punished.
479
00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:58,320
Doesn't he?
480
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:01,040
All right?
481
00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:04,510
- 30.
- (TILL BLEEPING AND OPENING)
482
00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:06,560
(RATTLE OF COINS)
483
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:11,680
Thanks.
484
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:18,080
(CHATTER)
485
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:29,640
Curtis? Curtis?
486
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:33,200
- Where you going, mate?
- Home.
487
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:36,590
Really? I thought you
were smarter than that.
488
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:38,870
Actually missing an exam?
489
00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:42,750
So you're gonna throw away three
years of hard work, are you?
490
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:45,710
- Just like that? - If you think
it'll really piss her off, yeah.
491
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:49,230
Sorry, are you talking about the
woman who took you into our house?
492
00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:50,870
Fed you. Treated you like her son.
493
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:54,190
I've already got one fucked-up
mum! I don't need another.
494
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:56,040
You little shit!
495
00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:02,790
Curtis?
496
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:04,980
I'm sorry, Curtis. I...
497
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:08,710
I'm sorry.
498
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:11,190
Elizabeth Wilton, you've
been charged with assault
499
00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:15,470
and the intent to rob, under
Section Eight of the Theft Act 1968.
500
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:17,990
You do not have to say anything
but it may harm your defence
501
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:20,830
if you do not mention now anything
you later rely on in court.
502
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:23,590
Anything you do say may
be given in evidence.
503
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:26,110
Do you understand the charge?
504
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:32,030
Yes. (SIGHS) I remember the assault.
505
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:35,030
He was devastated by it.
506
00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:38,110
But it was an assault, not a fight, yeah?
507
00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:40,910
- Eric Slater attacked
your brother? - Yes.
508
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:43,960
Will you tell me why?
509
00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:47,680
Because of where he was drinking.
510
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:50,790
- Because of what he was.
- He was gay?
511
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:52,840
Yes.
512
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:55,750
Do you know why he
didn't turn up at court?
513
00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:59,350
Because if it had come out...
514
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:01,400
(CHUCKLES)
515
00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:06,710
The idea that being gay was
such a shameful thing...
516
00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:09,880
I'm not sure many people
understand that now but...
517
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:13,230
.. he'd have lost his job.
518
00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:16,710
Most people thought that
what he was was disgusting,
519
00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:20,710
and let me tell you, he was convinced...
520
00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:24,460
that if that police officer
hadn't been passing...
521
00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:29,280
.. Eric Slater would've
beaten him to death.
522
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:37,790
So Eric Slater...
523
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:41,350
violently assaults a gay man...
524
00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:43,070
a year or so before Jimmy was killed.
525
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:45,590
- According to her.
- Yes, according to her.
526
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:47,510
Cos there's nothing --
absolutely nothing --
527
00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:50,390
that we've learnt about Jimmy
that suggests he was gay.
528
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:54,870
Now, if we're saying that his murder was
some sort of homophobia-motivated thing...
529
00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:56,920
(SIGHS)
530
00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:00,270
Look, you'd better call the girls.
531
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:03,880
(STARTS ENGINE) We need
to talk to Slater again.
532
00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:10,040
(THUMPING MUSIC)
533
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:12,670
Forget her, man.
534
00:34:12,720 --> 00:34:15,310
I mean, what does she think you are?
535
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:17,900
Some sorta tame little coconut?
536
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:26,110
That...
537
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:28,590
ain't you, fam.
538
00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:31,590
It's what she wants you to be.
539
00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:34,110
You should chuck it out, man.
540
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:38,160
I ain't no coconut, man.
541
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:27,800
(SCREAMS)
542
00:36:02,240 --> 00:36:05,040
- LES: Thanks, mate.
- MAN: Cheers.
543
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:08,950
Mr Slater? Sorry to disturb
you. You're obviously busy.
544
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:12,040
Is your father around? Just
need to have another quick chat.
545
00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:15,710
Like a bad penny, you lot.
546
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:18,300
(ERIC TALKING IN ADJACENT ROOM)
547
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:25,510
I don't care what he told his
sister. That's not what happened.
548
00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:27,910
Right, so this wasn't
an unprovoked attack?
549
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:30,030
Yeah, it's what I said it was.
550
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:33,720
So... you've never had
any problems with gay men?
551
00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:37,070
No.
552
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:41,310
His sister told us that you
were waiting for him outside.
553
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:44,710
- No, I was drinking IN the pub.
- You knew it was a gay bar?
554
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:46,280
No idea.
555
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:52,510
Right, so you didn't notice that it was an
entirely male clientele when you went in?
556
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:55,630
I've absolutely no idea
if I did or I didn't.
557
00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:59,390
This was the '70s. Most pubs were
pretty exclusively full of men.
558
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:02,430
Why do you think he told his
sister that you were outside?
559
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:05,390
I don't know. You know, as I say...
560
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:08,270
he was fairly drunk as well.
Maybe he just got it wrong,
561
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:10,270
or she's mistaking this fight for another,
562
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:13,510
or she's remembered it
wrongly. I don't know.
563
00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:15,150
Think back 40 years,
564
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:17,630
think of something significant
that happened to you.
565
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:20,350
How much detail can you remember now?
566
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:22,310
It... It-It's a lifetime ago.
567
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:24,630
She's remembered it wrong.
568
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:31,070
Did you ever wonder whether
Jimmy Sullivan was gay?
569
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:32,550
Wh...
570
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:35,510
Jimmy? Wh-Why would I have thought that?
571
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:37,990
The last time you were here,
572
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:40,840
we were talking about his girlfriend.
573
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:43,630
We didn't mention his girlfriend.
574
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:46,910
- Nor did you.
- Jo-Jo. We talked about her.
575
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:49,900
Only in connection with Robert Greaves.
576
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:51,910
Yeah.
577
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:55,190
(STUTTERING) Yeah, well, I
assumed you already knew
578
00:37:55,240 --> 00:37:57,510
that she and Jimmy had had a thing.
579
00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:00,160
Why would you have assumed that?
580
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:02,510
Why would you have not mentioned
581
00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:06,510
what was clearly a very
important piece of information?
582
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:10,880
Unless you were trying to steer
our focus towards Robert Greaves.
583
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:16,630
I don't know.
584
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:20,950
I'm sorry. I'm old. Like I said,
this is all ancient history.
585
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:23,430
I forget stuff. But er...
586
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:26,030
please, trust me...
587
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:28,920
you're way... way off being here.
588
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:36,270
So? What do you think?
589
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:38,310
I believed him.
590
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:40,360
Yeah, me too.
591
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:43,640
This case is like trying
to... grab hold of fog.
592
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:48,750
I don't know, maybe you were right.
Maybe it is all just too long ago.
593
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:50,910
- No --
- Cos this feels slightly insane.
594
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:52,750
Trying to find some sort of truth in that?
595
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:55,600
In people's utterly fucked memories.
596
00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:58,710
We'll get there, guv.
597
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:05,440
(THUNDER)
598
00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:08,870
Dad?
599
00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:11,710
- All right?
- Yeah, fine. Y-You OK?
600
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:14,680
Yeah. Fine. (CHUCKLES)
601
00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:19,600
Come on, then, dopey. Let's
get this party started.
602
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:36,960
I know it's only small, but...
603
00:39:39,240 --> 00:39:41,580
Oh, it's lovely. Thank you.
604
00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:45,000
Just what I need.
605
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:51,270
I just... Erm... You absolutely
don't need to tell me anything,
606
00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:54,310
anything at all, but I just...
607
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:58,550
I want you to know that if you
did want someone to talk to...
608
00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:00,590
Thank you.
609
00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:03,840
I might just take you
up on that some time.
610
00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:08,750
Well... I'll let you get settled in.
611
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:11,600
Oh erm, there's one bit of good news.
612
00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:14,910
The police have found some CCTV footage
613
00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:19,070
of someone entering the community
hall at the time of the burglary.
614
00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:21,910
They reckon they've got a pretty
good screen grab of his face.
615
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:23,870
They've asked me to go
down there tomorrow,
616
00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:26,860
see if I recognise him from the estate.
617
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:31,000
- Which is good, isn't it?
- Yes. Yes.
618
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:39,670
- (LIVELY CHATTER)
- ERIC: It's Andy!
619
00:40:39,720 --> 00:40:41,350
Let me introduce you to Gary Stevens.
620
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:43,510
Gary was my boss at Andersons.
621
00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:47,150
He was the only man in the whole
building who had two secretaries.
622
00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:49,630
One for each knee. (LAUGHTER)
623
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:52,350
Get yourselves a drink, won't you?
624
00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:58,270
- How are you both keeping?
- Are you well?
625
00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:01,670
- Nice to see you...
- (DIN OF CHATTER CONTINUES)
626
00:41:01,720 --> 00:41:04,470
How about a rose, Mum? Hmm?
627
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:06,750
Half a glass won't do you no harm.
628
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:08,940
Why are we celebrating?
629
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:14,430
It's your... It's your 45th
wedding anniversary, Mum.
630
00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:17,520
No, I know that. But
why are we celebrating?
631
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:23,680
(THUNDER)
632
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:57,830
In conclusion, let me just say that...
633
00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:01,270
that a marriage, it's a bit like a house.
634
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:05,070
You don't just build it and
let it look after itself.
635
00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:08,750
- It needs constant maintenance.
- (CHUCKLING)
636
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:11,030
Doesn't it, sweetheart?
637
00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:14,790
And yes, maybe her plumbing's
not all it once was...
638
00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:17,910
- (LAUGHTER) - .. and my guttering,
that could do with a good jet-hose.
639
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:21,910
But the foundations are rock-solid.
640
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:25,990
So if you will, raise your
glasses to my beloved and I.
641
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:30,270
- Here's to another 45 years!
- (CHEERING)
642
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:32,430
- MAN: 45 years!
- WOMAN: Cheers!
643
00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:34,630
ALL SINGING: โช Congratulations
644
00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:37,230
โช And celebrations
645
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:41,600
โช When I tell everyone
that you're in love with me
646
00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:45,310
โช Congratulations
647
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:47,550
โช And jubilations
648
00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:51,670
โช I want the world to
know I'm happy as can be...
649
00:42:51,720 --> 00:42:53,710
- (MUSIC CONTINUES)
- WOMAN: How are you feeling?
650
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:55,830
(LAUGHTER AND CHATTER)
651
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:02,140
- Mum!
- (THUNDER)
652
00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:06,470
Mum!
653
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:08,520
Mum...
654
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:11,920
Maybe felt I'd... I'd
already put so much in
655
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:16,150
to our new life here, with you boys
656
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:20,190
and finding this lovely house
and making all our new friends.
657
00:43:20,240 --> 00:43:21,910
I didn't want to give it all up.
658
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:24,230
Mum. I don't know what
you're talking about.
659
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:26,350
- Let's get you in...
- Then he had his accident,
660
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:30,390
so he wouldn't have been able
to hurt anyone anymore anyway.
661
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:34,270
- What... Sorry? - I think I
just tried to bury it all, Les.
662
00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:36,110
What did you say? You said "hurt anyone".
663
00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:38,550
- What do you mean?
- And now with my head the way it is
664
00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:40,750
and the police asking all these questions,
665
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:42,830
it's starting to swirl around in my head.
666
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:45,830
And the problem is, Les, I...
667
00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:49,320
I've absolutely no idea
what's real and what isn't.
668
00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:09,040
Lizzie!
669
00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:32,390
SHIRLEY: Yeah, there was
stuff he did back then.
670
00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:35,790
Rumours I'd hear, just stuff
we never talked about.
671
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:38,990
(BREATH QUIVERING)
672
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:42,950
Belle, I don't know what to do if the
police start asking me questions.
673
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:45,280
(CRYING) What do I say?
674
00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:56,640
Hungry?
675
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:06,710
- SUNNY: Yeah.
- JAKE: 'See you when I get back.'
676
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:08,750
- OK. - 'I haven't
spoken to the guv yet.'
677
00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:11,910
- 'Do you know when she'll be back?'
- She's with me now. - 'OK.' - Yeah.
678
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:14,560
- 'See you later.'
- OK, cheers.
679
00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:17,940
Call just came into the CID office.
680
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:23,400
Looks like we've got another victim.
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