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This is the origin of it.
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The group started out like what if
women could really do something?
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And it grew kind of out of that
over a couple of years.
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It became more of a sorority
recently. I think.
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That was kind of
when I got involved in it.
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And I was super motivated
by fucking Trump election
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thinking we have to fucking do
something in the world.
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And what if women
could really do something.
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And excited about
the underground concept about it.
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That like, we couldn't be thwarted
because nobody would know.
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The women who were doing it
were experiencing wonderful things
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about their commitment.
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And they wanted
to memorialize it permanently.
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I don't know exactly
who the person was,
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but I know that like somebody raised
the concept of branding.
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Because what building
a principle of self is,
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is you choose self above fear.
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THE VOW
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Days we were young
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We took photographs
Of everything we could see
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We had to run from it
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Priest and prophetess
We were nothing we would defy
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Invisible skin
Where is the world within?
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Invincible skin
It's how we all begin
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AT CAUSE
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I said it's important.
Please call me back.
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I can't believe
she went through that.
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I wonder what the fuck...
Yeah that's terrible.
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- Sarah?
- Hi.
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I want to talk
about the thing you texted me.
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Yeah. It's just...
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Sarah?
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Sarah?
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- I feel like I might faint.
- Yeah. So I...
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I'm hyperventilating.
Maybe a panic attack.
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- I don't know. I've never had one.
- You're having a panic attack, Sarah.
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You're having a panic attack. Yeah.
I'm so sorry.
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Okay. Just keep telling me things
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and then I've got to figure out
what I'm going to do here.
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This is about having sex
with Keith?
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- That's my belief, yeah.
- Oh, Mark.
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- I'm kind of shocked right now.
- I understand.
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And yet not shocked and yet, not.
You know what I mean? Like...
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This shit's been there, right?
You've seen it.
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Oh yeah. No.
Right from the beginning.
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I'm just a bit pissed with myself
for not
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catching certain things.
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There are a bunch
of different stages.
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And it's profound
when you begin to realize
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what you've been doing
and how you made it okay.
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I'm done. I'm resigning
from everything. But I'll tell you...
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Dude I'm so dependent.
This is my income too.
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I understand. And what
you're going to have to do
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is you're going to have to smile
and suck it up.
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But I'm going to have your back.
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Just give it some time to settle in.
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Yeah.
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So, this is my first year or two
of curriculum.
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That's uncomfortable for me
to see it now.
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"Success is an internal state
of clear, honest knowledge
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of what I am,
my value in the world
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and my responsibility for the way
I react to all things.
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There are no ultimate victims.
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Therefore, I'll not choose
to be a victim."
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That is a key foundational piece
for the rest of ESP.
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Why are you a victim to it?
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Why don't you get in there
and change it.
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Being an aspiring actress
and living in a basement suite
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and not feeling
super confident
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I'd get a job
and I was really happy.
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And then I wouldn't get work
and I'd be really low.
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I was dating someone,
and I'd be happy.
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And then I'd break up with them
and be really low.
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It was always up and down.
I wasn't consistently joyful.
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All emotions are triggered
by the recognition of the difference
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between the way we want the world
to be and the way the world is.
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You will become aware
that you choose
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your emotional and behavioral
responses in all situations.
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This is what we refer to
as being at cause.
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When you're at cause
everything that you feel you cause.
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No one else can make you feel
any way. I can change my state.
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That is a huge,
beautiful shift to have.
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I could feel whatever I want.
Anytime.
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It was really interesting
because when I met you,
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there was a certain trajectory
you were on.
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And she took some of these tools and
she just took this right angle turn
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to now having multiple careers
and making a lot of money.
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Can I say that? I did.
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Not because of me.
Because she really worked very hard.
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Not because of me.
So, what is it?
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It took a few years to crystallize
from helping me
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to this was going to be
my business.
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Because I didn't start making money
right away.
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The stripe path was just a means.
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It was a vehicle for me to grow
in a measurable way.
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So, for example,
if you wanted to earn commission,
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you have to enroll
on average one person a month
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and into minimum of five day.
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I heard you're one
of the top sales people.
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True story.
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I went up the stripe path
very quickly
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with my competitive nature.
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Everybody rolls out of bed
and wants to be better.
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But how many people actually
step out of their comfort zone?
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Barbara Bouchey was the best
salesperson in the company.
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And people say,
"I can't. I can't find the time.
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I'm too busy.
I can't squeeze anything in."
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You're exactly the type of person
that needs the program.
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You know why? Your life is
obviously controlling you.
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She invested in me.
Oversaw my sales. Nurtured them.
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It's all marketing. So, are you going
to be part of marketing or not?
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She would even fly me to Albany
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when I didn't have any money
to get trained with Keith.
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Imagine if I found a way
to cure cancer.
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I can't run up and down the road
and yell
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"I cured cancer, I cured cancer."
And the whole world will rejoice.
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I need credibility, right?
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You're going to tell someone you're
going to better their life. Right?
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Who are you competing against?
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Everyone in the universe.
You better be good.
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I keep drawing a blank.
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That's okay. And I know
I'm giving you unbearable grief.
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It's OK.
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But if you could do it here,
you can do it in New York.
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I know. I should know this.
All right.
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Who's ready to have fun?
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All right. Okay.
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So, in order to have fun, we don't
want anyone to get hurt. Right?
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No, not fun enough.
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Who here is here
to have fun? Fun?
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Come on. Fun?
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OK.
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You should be trying to turn up
their energy level.
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Okay.
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When the audience gives you
the signal that they got it,
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you move, you move,
you move.
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Okay. What is this?
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Nine. Okay.
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How could I make this into
a representation of the number six
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with one line?
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What I was sold on
and what I sold other people
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was that they could be the best,
ideal version of themselves.
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How many times are we limited?
We're not seeing the curvy line
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because we think it must be,
should be, is,
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believe it to be straight.
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Throw the curtain away from the
little guy in the wizard of Oz. Right?
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We were taught
that this is manipulative,
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but it's a good manipulation.
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You first have to establish for them
how valuable their dream is.
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I need to first solicit what you need
to even say this is how much it cost.
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That's what this is about.
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How much is it worth to know
the little guy in your life?
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How much do drop-ins cost?
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What's the price of what we offer?
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Let's say 20 bucks a week.
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Now, if you were able to take as many
of those two-hour classes a week...
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Like, unlimited classes.
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How much would you pay to be able
to take as many as you want?
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But what's the price
of not having it?
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And what I believe
from what you told me, Mr. Jones,
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is that not only do you have dreams,
but you're the sort of person,
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it sounds like you have a real
passion towards your dreams
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and that your dreams
are important to you.
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I can't imagine that you would sell
them for $10 a day. Sell them away.
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It's not a question of, if we can be
a hundred-million-dollar business,
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it's a question of the how
and how long do you want to take
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and how do you want to take it?
How do you want to do it? Not if.
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I was excited
about making an actual living.
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I mean, up until this point,
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I was bringing in thousands
of dollars to the company.
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This is my orange sash.
I'm very proud of it.
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But I'll just tell you
that my first five day,
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when they brought out the sashes
I was like, "What is this?"
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I called Mark and I'm like "What
have you gotten me involved with?"
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Seriously Mark, if you step down,
I'm nervous
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because I have so much invested.
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I know.
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Don't worry about that today.
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Honestly, I'm not saying this make
you feel guilty, but I trusted you.
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I know.
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Because your connection
with Keith, you know? And I...
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- I'm not blaming you. Not at all.
- No, Sarah, I have fucked up epicly.
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So, who is having sex with Keith?
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- I don't have all the details.
- Okay.
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But like as one of his
apparently top salespeople
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is that why I can't get time
with him?
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Cause I'm not going
to have sex with him?
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Like never asked me.
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Those are good questions.
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I don't know like all the stuff that
you're saying makes total sense
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but my personal relationships
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with certain people like Lauren
are so close.
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And, suddenly you don't know
what's true and not true.
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Like, that's the part
that's hard for me.
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It's like I trust you
and I then I also trust them.
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Like, I don't know
how to reconcile that.
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Whatever you do,
record everything.
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This is Nancy and her daughters,
Lauren and Michelle.
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There's a Jewish term.
Mishpocheh means family.
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And when you meet someone,
it's like Mishpocheh.
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So, hi!
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Is everybody staying for stimulus
response or we're doing two?
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I think I met Lauren in Albany.
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She was the head of education.
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And I loved having her teach because
she'd do it in a very cool way.
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You're leaving?
Okay. Come kiss me.
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By the time I'd met her, Nancy
had talked her up to me fair bit.
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You know, how much I'd love her?
We're both interested in theater.
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I think we have a couple of...
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NXIVM's top 10,
most sexy men in our cast.
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She was just over a year
older than me.
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My mom and her mom are
both therapists. We were so similar.
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- Do you want to be successful, Lauren?
- Yeah.
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It's worth a lot to you, isn't it?
A very lot.
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When I came to Albany,
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we'd go, get our nails done
before intensives, we'd shop.
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I wanted to make sure
the Canadians could be on with us.
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It's equivalent of my therapist
and superior.
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And best friend.
It's a very bizarre combination.
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And that's who I EM'd with.
That's who I trusted the most.
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EXPLORATION OF MEANINGS
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Most EM's lead back to a memory
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and it's looking at the belief system
that causes reactions.
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All the facilitator has to do is
fill in missing information of logic
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that you didn't have
when you were a kid.
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Camera is going to focus on this screen
and I'm going to turn this mic on.
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Today what we're going to do
is learn how to explore meaning,
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but before we can learn
how to explore meaning
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we have to have a good understanding
of the surface structure
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versus the deep structure.
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Like, this cup, definition of a cup
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is you can use it to carry,
contain, to hold things.
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Meaning of it may be this is my
favorite cup. It's a very special cup.
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It's my, I don't feel okay
if I don't have the cup.
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You're interacting with things, not
as they are, but as you imbue them.
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I used EM
with a number of other people,
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which I didn't find
nearly as efficient as Lauren.
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And Lauren was I think
375 US for an EM.
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Like three times
what everyone else charges.
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Why is it important
that you get approval from others?
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But Lauren was
sort of the queen of it.
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You have to understand that
somebody comes to you for an EM
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what they say is,
"Can you help me?"
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But then when you start
to get close to the issue,
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they do everything
to keep you from helping them.
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Especially with acting.
It is really hard on the self-esteem.
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If you get a part,
you don't know why.
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If you don't get a part,
you don't know why.
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And when you feel that
you make it mean something
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that it doesn't mean,
you need to EM that.
251
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And that's why I became
such a good enroller
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because I'd used the tools
and get an EM and then I'd be like,
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"Okay, well some people are going
to reject me and that's okay.
254
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They're not rejecting me.
They're rejecting the tools. I'm fine."
255
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So, I became very bulletproof
in that way.
256
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That's why you get an EM with
somebody else and not with yourself
257
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because you trust them enough
to take you through a process
258
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where you're going
to confront that fear
259
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and come out with more information
and not have it at the end.
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But if it were up to you,
you'd never face it.
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Okay. So, one person
decided to leave,
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and they went and told Mark and
I think Bonnie, a bunch of shit.
263
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I don't know what she told them.
264
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I know they know about brands.
265
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Okay.
266
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But Bonnie left, and Mark wanted
to leave before any of this came out.
267
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And there was a lot of stuff
that we've had to clean up
268
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because Mark, he wouldn't talk to us
and didn't tell us it was coming.
269
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I think this has now become
the thing that they're talk about.
270
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And they're saying defamatory things
that will destroy business.
271
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You know, the only reason I did is
because I trust you and I love you,
272
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but I'm taking
a step back, going,
273
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"What did I get into here?"
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I trusted somebody as well
and I got the brand.
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It's a little out there stuff, but
there's reasonable explanations for it.
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If there was anything that I thought
was bad, Sarah, I would leave.
277
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What if it was, Lauren,
and you're not in the loop of that?
278
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I'm sad that we haven't spoken
about it like this before this.
279
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Lauren, can't even bring it up
without you telling me to get an EM.
280
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You're my best friend. I'm just
scared of what I have on the line.
281
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Smile for the camera.
282
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I met Nippy in,
what was that, 2006?
283
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I was like,
"Who is this guy?"
284
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I mean, he was super cute,
but I was like, "What's his deal".
285
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I originally got involved in the course
about eight years ago, nine years ago.
286
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I was having
a hard time in auditions.
287
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Action.
288
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Who you supposed to be?
289
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A friend of mine said he would
help me with whatever was going on.
290
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I came and took it and I was fluent
in two emotions, anger and sarcasm,
291
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which is why I was having
those problems.
292
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And both of us drove
each other crazy, respectively.
293
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And rolling.
294
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And then we went
to V-Week together.
295
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V-Week is like the best adult summer
camp you've ever experienced.
296
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V-Week is the trailer
of Vanguard's dream.
297
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It was at the YMCA resort
in Adirondacks.
298
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You just descend upon
the whole camp and take over.
299
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You spent the whole week together,
300
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dancing together, or singing.
301
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We're talking about these
deep concepts and philosophy.
302
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You say it better than I do,
of course.
303
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With civilization, people working
together based on principle
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to improve
the nature of existence itself.
305
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You know, support the mission,
build community.
306
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This was a mistake!
307
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Celebrate Keith,
celebrate his birthday.
308
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All of it is in tribute to Vanguard
309
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to offer you for your birthday.
310
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So happy birthday.
311
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One time everyone else was
hunkering down to practice their EMs.
312
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I kinda escaped to the beach
313
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and Nippy and I we're trying to
reenact that scene from Dirty Dancing
314
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where she jumps,
and he catches her like this.
315
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We were doing that over
and over again in the water.
316
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That's when the history began,
when the magic started.
317
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Oh my God.
318
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Nancy was there and Lauren was
my maid of honor and my officiant.
319
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Probably half of the people
were from ESP.
320
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Together, you represent
a special and integral balance
321
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of ethics and humanity,
empathy and discipline,
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character and compassion.
323
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Mark and Bonnie had gotten married
a couple of years prior
324
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and Keith wrote their vows and I got
permission we could use them for ours.
325
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I vow that there will be no trial
of life, pretest of circumstance,
326
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through which
I will surrender this love
327
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to the convenience
of anger or fear.
328
00:20:46,450 --> 00:20:48,620
This I promise you
to my last breath.
329
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I choose you, Nippy,
to be my husband.
330
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We had Allison Mack singing.
331
00:21:10,930 --> 00:21:12,770
I felt like I was finding it all.
332
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Meaning, family.
333
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Belonging, community.
334
00:21:21,820 --> 00:21:25,200
I remember saying to them,
"I want to bring this to Vancouver."
335
00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:27,700
And I even told Nancy
that when I met her
336
00:21:27,780 --> 00:21:31,080
and she was like, "A lot of people
say that, so we'll see."
337
00:21:31,830 --> 00:21:35,210
She dared me. I took the dare.
Double dog dare.
338
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- Ready, ready?
- Oh my God! Yeah.
339
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Here we go!
340
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And then we opened
an actual center
341
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and that was a very self-defining
and beautiful moment
342
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because there was
a group of us from Vancouver
343
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that were like,
very dedicated young ESPians,
344
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a lot of the young people who were
in film and television industry,
345
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a lot of actors.
346
00:22:02,780 --> 00:22:04,490
Oh shit, it's video.
347
00:22:05,110 --> 00:22:06,740
Hi, Nicki.
348
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Cut and action. Start again.
349
00:22:09,700 --> 00:22:15,000
I feel like the biggest limitation
is that we judge ourselves.
350
00:22:15,870 --> 00:22:19,380
We're all in the same boat,
struggling with our self-esteem
351
00:22:19,460 --> 00:22:22,000
and body issues
and meaning and purpose.
352
00:22:22,250 --> 00:22:25,010
I'm Kristin as you know,
I'm excited to work with you guys
353
00:22:25,130 --> 00:22:27,550
and I don't know
what else to say.
354
00:22:28,140 --> 00:22:29,680
Say hi to Sarah.
355
00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:31,760
Hi, Sarah.
356
00:22:31,850 --> 00:22:37,230
How are we contributing, as
a society, to the myth of celebrity?
357
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Because a lot of things, people
seem to be rather caught up in it.
358
00:22:43,900 --> 00:22:45,780
Allie Mack.
359
00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:50,700
When we first started,
she was living the life in Vancouver.
360
00:22:50,780 --> 00:22:52,660
She was VIP as they called her.
361
00:22:52,740 --> 00:22:54,040
Come on up.
362
00:22:54,330 --> 00:22:57,960
I'm Allison, like I said earlier
and I'm in film and an actress.
363
00:22:58,040 --> 00:22:59,830
It wasn't until I came
to this organization
364
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that I started to discover that I was
so much more than just an actress.
365
00:23:06,260 --> 00:23:07,840
Before we had the center,
366
00:23:07,930 --> 00:23:09,720
we were all going to Tacoma
every weekend
367
00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:12,100
and flying to Albany
and it's quite far.
368
00:23:12,510 --> 00:23:14,220
How it feels having a center?
369
00:23:14,310 --> 00:23:18,600
I think the most extraordinary thing
is people feel they have a home now.
370
00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:21,060
We were like nomads.
371
00:23:22,060 --> 00:23:26,150
We have worked really hard
for this moment, for this day
372
00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:28,740
and I don't think that...
373
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I don't think that I would be
who I am without Mark in my life.
374
00:23:32,830 --> 00:23:34,160
I know that for sure.
375
00:23:37,910 --> 00:23:40,960
I'd like to say something
about Proctor Edmondson.
376
00:23:41,330 --> 00:23:45,840
Sarah is such a shining
example of somebody
377
00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:49,010
who has a vision in her mind
378
00:23:49,090 --> 00:23:52,260
and will pursue it,
relentlessly, relentlessly.
379
00:23:53,100 --> 00:23:56,140
I can tell you that I would want to be
in the trenches with her
380
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in every single endeavor.
381
00:23:58,310 --> 00:24:00,690
So...
I'm getting pretty choked up.
382
00:24:05,110 --> 00:24:07,230
Extraordinary, extraordinary
human being
383
00:24:07,360 --> 00:24:09,530
and somebody
who I respect deeply.
384
00:24:09,610 --> 00:24:11,070
Thank you.
385
00:24:21,750 --> 00:24:23,170
This is it!
386
00:24:23,710 --> 00:24:26,000
Here's Sarah.
One of our center owners.
387
00:24:26,090 --> 00:24:28,590
- How's it feel?
- I am so excited.
388
00:24:28,710 --> 00:24:30,170
Vancouver!
389
00:24:32,010 --> 00:24:36,470
There's people signing applications
in my office, it's a dream come true.
390
00:24:37,180 --> 00:24:41,140
- How many did you enroll?
- Directly and indirectly, over 2000.
391
00:24:43,190 --> 00:24:45,360
People made jokes
and they'd be like,
392
00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:48,730
"Oh, you could do your cult thing.
Or how's your cult?"
393
00:24:48,820 --> 00:24:50,440
One more time?
Okay, ready go.
394
00:24:50,530 --> 00:24:52,360
I would joke,
"Well, if this a cult,
395
00:24:52,450 --> 00:24:56,030
as in a group of people that have
a similar mindset or beliefs,
396
00:24:56,120 --> 00:24:58,410
it's a cult of happy,
successful people.
397
00:24:58,540 --> 00:25:01,410
So, what's the problem?"
398
00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:13,180
Like egg yolks.
399
00:25:25,060 --> 00:25:27,940
His tail is over here.
400
00:25:28,270 --> 00:25:29,400
Is that his tail?
401
00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:33,450
Lauren, I made her godmother because
she didn't have kids of her own
402
00:25:33,610 --> 00:25:36,490
and we wanted Troy to grow up
in the ESP community.
403
00:25:36,780 --> 00:25:38,030
Can you see him?
404
00:25:38,950 --> 00:25:40,660
We helped each other and...
405
00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:44,710
That's so sweet.
Oh look, he's running away.
406
00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:47,290
And I felt like
I could tell her anything.
407
00:25:47,580 --> 00:25:49,380
All right, we're going to go.
408
00:25:51,300 --> 00:25:53,510
How am I going to do this
in terms of Nippy?
409
00:25:53,630 --> 00:25:56,510
And like what if he wants me to get
it removed? Can I get it removed?
410
00:25:56,590 --> 00:25:59,890
It's a scar so I don't know.
I mean, we can heal it, it fades.
411
00:26:02,470 --> 00:26:06,560
But also, Sarah, like I don't think
that it was bad for you
412
00:26:06,650 --> 00:26:09,440
to decide to do this and bad for you
to have something of your own
413
00:26:09,570 --> 00:26:12,780
or against Nippy in any way.
It's not about him.
414
00:26:13,740 --> 00:26:16,030
It was for you
with your girlfriends.
415
00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:21,790
A lot of your self-esteem was
and has been wrapped up with him.
416
00:26:24,540 --> 00:26:27,670
Why don't you go take Troy and do
what you need to do. But I'm here.
417
00:26:27,750 --> 00:26:31,000
Anything I can do to support you
and feel not fearful.
418
00:26:38,140 --> 00:26:41,100
They gave me my green sash
just after I'd given birth to Troy.
419
00:26:41,180 --> 00:26:42,680
Troy was three months old.
420
00:26:43,140 --> 00:26:45,230
You're supposed to get promoted
every six months,
421
00:26:45,350 --> 00:26:48,520
but for two and a half years,
I didn't get another stripe.
422
00:26:49,190 --> 00:26:52,820
And we were getting pressure
from all sides to move to Albany.
423
00:26:53,110 --> 00:26:57,570
I mean, we have the best culture here.
We're the most advanced society here.
424
00:26:57,650 --> 00:27:00,490
This is like the Rome
of the modern world, Albany.
425
00:27:00,870 --> 00:27:02,740
Clifton Park, in particular.
426
00:27:03,370 --> 00:27:05,200
I never wanted to move there.
427
00:27:05,370 --> 00:27:08,000
But at the same time,
I didn't want to stagnate.
428
00:27:10,670 --> 00:27:13,800
And Nippy had never
really settled into Vancouver
429
00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:16,300
and he wasn't
particularly happy there.
430
00:27:18,470 --> 00:27:24,010
He would say, "Well, I'm head of SOP.
Keith wants me there."
431
00:27:25,890 --> 00:27:29,810
SOP is the Society of Protectors,
which was a workshop for the men.
432
00:27:31,270 --> 00:27:34,610
About commitment and honor,
and how to be a leader.
433
00:27:37,820 --> 00:27:41,950
Masculinity is a tool. This is not
to say all masculinity is great.
434
00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:45,370
We abuse our power.
We trample on women.
435
00:27:45,790 --> 00:27:49,210
We even trample on each other.
We need a group.
436
00:27:49,330 --> 00:27:52,580
We need hundreds of thousands,
millions of men
437
00:27:52,710 --> 00:27:56,550
as a voice of honor
so that we can do more in the world.
438
00:27:56,710 --> 00:27:59,800
So, we don't have a President of the
United States presidential election,
439
00:27:59,880 --> 00:28:01,430
like the last one.
440
00:28:02,140 --> 00:28:04,510
So, we don't have media
like we have.
441
00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:08,310
So, we don't have politicians
and things like that like we have.
442
00:28:08,390 --> 00:28:11,770
Are those people bad? No,
but they've been trained badly.
443
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:16,360
With Nippy, SOP spoke to his values,
very specifically.
444
00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:19,240
The principles
that we're upholding over,
445
00:28:19,360 --> 00:28:21,820
I mean, where else in the world
is this going on?
446
00:28:21,950 --> 00:28:23,490
You're joining my team.
447
00:28:23,910 --> 00:28:26,740
COUPLES THERAPY
WITH NANCY
448
00:28:27,790 --> 00:28:31,830
I recognize I'm not getting what I
want. I cut to anger pretty quickly.
449
00:28:32,210 --> 00:28:35,340
- So, you're an alpha?
- Yeah. This is...
450
00:28:35,460 --> 00:28:37,000
"I have to be in charge."
451
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:40,630
- We're two alphas. Don't you think?
- Yeah.
452
00:28:41,630 --> 00:28:45,760
And I don't feel like we're
working towards the same thing.
453
00:28:45,850 --> 00:28:47,970
Like, I think we have
the same values.
454
00:28:48,060 --> 00:28:51,100
But, like I think partly because
of this whole like Vancouver,
455
00:28:51,180 --> 00:28:54,900
New York, where to live thing, it's
like there's always a power struggle.
456
00:28:54,980 --> 00:28:56,770
Like, even planning the day.
457
00:28:56,860 --> 00:28:59,940
Maybe one of things
that you don't like about Vancouver
458
00:29:00,030 --> 00:29:02,700
on an unconscious level
it's her thing.
459
00:29:05,910 --> 00:29:09,370
In a certain way in Vancouver,
you're not the guy, she is.
460
00:29:12,210 --> 00:29:14,580
But I want you to be the guy.
461
00:29:14,830 --> 00:29:17,290
I don't think it's necessarily
because it's her thing.
462
00:29:17,380 --> 00:29:20,590
I feel like I don't know people.
I don't feel resourceful there.
463
00:29:21,050 --> 00:29:22,800
Honestly, so much of the time,
464
00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:25,260
I feel like I'm just, like,
in the way of you,
465
00:29:25,390 --> 00:29:28,760
and I'm trying to feel good with you,
and then I feel needy.
466
00:29:39,820 --> 00:29:41,610
And...
467
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:44,910
Then DOS came around.
468
00:29:48,330 --> 00:29:50,910
DOMINUS
OBSEQUIOUS SORORIUM
469
00:29:51,950 --> 00:29:54,250
DOMINANT
OVER SUBMISSIVE
470
00:29:54,370 --> 00:29:56,830
Lauren came to Vancouver
to do a five day.
471
00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:59,540
She said, "I want to tell you
about something."
472
00:29:59,670 --> 00:30:03,050
She said it was incredibly cool.
It was incredibly helpful in her life.
473
00:30:03,130 --> 00:30:05,760
"This is going to help you
in your relationship.
474
00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:08,300
This is why you're stuck
in the stripe path.
475
00:30:09,470 --> 00:30:13,140
This is exactly what you need.
This is what you need to be strong."
476
00:30:14,310 --> 00:30:17,980
She couldn't tell me anything else
until I gave her collateral.
477
00:30:19,650 --> 00:30:23,440
And she's like, "It should be
something you feel nauseated about."
478
00:30:23,780 --> 00:30:25,240
I'm like, "Like what?"
479
00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:28,200
She's like, "Oh, I don't know, like a
confession about something bad you did
480
00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:30,160
something that I'll hold forever
to make sure
481
00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:33,540
that you never break
your vow of secrecy."
482
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:36,410
And I felt weird about it.
483
00:30:36,500 --> 00:30:38,710
But Lauren,
as the head of education,
484
00:30:38,790 --> 00:30:42,500
Nancy's daughter, my best friend,
all these things in my life,
485
00:30:42,590 --> 00:30:44,840
she's telling me
that there's something
486
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:47,090
that's helped her more
than anything else.
487
00:30:47,220 --> 00:30:48,930
I'm definitely intrigued.
488
00:30:49,430 --> 00:30:53,810
And "collateral" was a term that was
used. It's part of the vernacular.
489
00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:56,730
COLLATERAL
490
00:30:56,940 --> 00:30:59,400
Commitment has to be collateralized.
491
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:02,980
I don't say, "Oh, yeah, you know
I give you my word on that."
492
00:31:03,110 --> 00:31:08,410
No, if I give you my word, it's
collateralized by my whole self-image.
493
00:31:08,570 --> 00:31:12,660
The more you collateralize your word,
the stronger your word becomes.
494
00:31:12,740 --> 00:31:16,160
Your word is your bond.
No excuses.
495
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:21,250
I'm like, "I don't have secrets.
I don't have like a dark sorted past."
496
00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:23,710
She goes, "Just make it up."
497
00:31:26,010 --> 00:31:27,260
She videotaped me.
498
00:31:27,340 --> 00:31:30,680
I knew I was being filmed, but we were
pretending that I didn't know that.
499
00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:34,220
I shit talked my husband, my mom,
my dad and my brother
500
00:31:34,350 --> 00:31:38,600
saying things like, "He's a terrible
husband. He beats our son."
501
00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:42,060
Awful things
that have no bases in reality.
502
00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:53,660
She gets real excited.
503
00:31:55,910 --> 00:31:58,790
It became more of a sorority
recently, I think.
504
00:31:58,910 --> 00:32:01,620
And, that was kind of
when I got involved in it.
505
00:32:02,580 --> 00:32:05,710
You know how Freemasons
are out there changing the world,
506
00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:08,260
you don't know who they are, they're
this force for good in the world?
507
00:32:08,340 --> 00:32:10,380
It's the same thing, but for women.
508
00:32:11,550 --> 00:32:13,430
It's like a similar to SOP.
509
00:32:13,890 --> 00:32:15,760
Something happens bad to you.
510
00:32:15,850 --> 00:32:17,850
Don't you want
a bunch of tough people
511
00:32:17,930 --> 00:32:21,390
who could take on the burden,
carry the log, do it with you?
512
00:32:21,850 --> 00:32:28,230
Every time we prove ourselves against
comfort, we're just, we're tougher.
513
00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:31,820
And I was like,
that sounds pretty cool.
514
00:32:32,700 --> 00:32:36,160
And she said the vow of obedience
in a lifetime commitment.
515
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:40,120
And what made sense
to me already
516
00:32:40,250 --> 00:32:42,960
is that Lauren and I
have already talked about
517
00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:46,090
being old age boobies
in matching velour tracksuits,
518
00:32:46,170 --> 00:32:49,130
going for walks on the seawall
in Florida or whatever.
519
00:32:49,260 --> 00:32:52,300
And teaching trainings, like we're
doing this for the rest of our lives.
520
00:32:52,380 --> 00:32:55,800
So, it's like a heightened level
of a coaching relationship,
521
00:32:55,890 --> 00:32:58,850
which makes sense
that she goes into...
522
00:32:58,930 --> 00:33:00,770
And we call it master slave.
523
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:05,770
So, what I knew, about this point
is that Lauren had sisters.
524
00:33:05,860 --> 00:33:09,690
She was part of a pod. I knew there
were other sisters under Lauren.
525
00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:16,070
She said, "One day you'll have
slaves and you'll have six slaves.
526
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:19,490
And then you'll be a Grandmaster."
And I'm like...
527
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:23,120
Now keep in mind, every step
along the way is totally weird.
528
00:33:23,210 --> 00:33:24,920
Just like sashes are weird,
529
00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:28,800
but then Lauren explains it
and it's like, a little less weird.
530
00:33:29,210 --> 00:33:31,340
As you start
to explore those things
531
00:33:31,420 --> 00:33:33,880
it is a deeper
experience of existence
532
00:33:33,970 --> 00:33:38,180
because it's a whole understanding
of your life and your values
533
00:33:38,300 --> 00:33:40,310
and how you want to do a world.
534
00:33:40,930 --> 00:33:44,020
It's more of a metaphor.
It's an exercise.
535
00:33:44,980 --> 00:33:47,730
I said, "Okay, this is bizarre,
but I'm in."
536
00:33:48,980 --> 00:33:50,860
She said,
"If you're in, you need to give
537
00:33:50,940 --> 00:33:54,990
more collateral
to solidify your agreement."
538
00:33:55,450 --> 00:33:59,870
She's like, "Yeah, let's just do
a nude photo just for me to have.
539
00:33:59,950 --> 00:34:01,450
So, I know you're in."
540
00:34:03,660 --> 00:34:07,460
So, she has the photo,
she sends it off and I'm in.
541
00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:12,590
From that point forward
Lauren was my master.
542
00:34:12,670 --> 00:34:14,760
I had to be accountable to her
all the time.
543
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:16,840
GOOD MORNING MASTER!
544
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:19,300
MASTER - MAY I GO TO SLEEP?
545
00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:22,180
GOOD NIGHT MASTER!
546
00:34:22,270 --> 00:34:24,430
I had daily contact with her
a few times a day.
547
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:27,900
Before this, months would go by
when I hadn't heard from her.
548
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:31,150
It felt...
549
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:35,030
I felt special to be coached
and mentored closely by her.
550
00:34:36,150 --> 00:34:38,570
It's like, well,
it's Lauren and I love her,
551
00:34:38,660 --> 00:34:40,530
and I get to spend time with her.
552
00:34:41,620 --> 00:34:42,910
I knew I was part of the pod,
553
00:34:42,990 --> 00:34:44,950
but I didn't know who they were yet
because I hadn't met them.
554
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:46,080
LOVES OF MY LIFE.
555
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:47,710
I AM SO EXCITED WE WILL ALL
BE TOGETHER NEXT WEEK!
556
00:34:47,790 --> 00:34:49,750
I had basically was in for six weeks
557
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:53,760
when Lauren asked me to go to Albany
for an initiation ceremony.
558
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:57,300
I got on the phone with her
and I asked how she was doing.
559
00:34:57,430 --> 00:34:59,470
She's like, "I'm great.
I've lost a lot of weight
560
00:34:59,550 --> 00:35:03,470
since you were here last thanks to
DOS. And I'm down at my goal weight."
561
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:07,190
And I said, "What is your goal weight?"
And it was like 103 or 104.
562
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:10,310
Lauren lost 20 pounds
in six weeks.
563
00:35:13,730 --> 00:35:18,070
So, we get there and as a part
of the initiation ceremony,
564
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:20,240
we get a tattoo
that like all the sisters have
565
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:23,240
and we'll all know that we have it
and it's really cool.
566
00:35:23,450 --> 00:35:25,580
The idea of it is, it's seven lines
567
00:35:25,660 --> 00:35:28,120
and it's also based
in the four elements.
568
00:35:28,460 --> 00:35:30,830
The straight line at the top
is the sky.
569
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:33,670
And then there's a mountain,
which is the earth.
570
00:35:33,750 --> 00:35:36,050
And then
the squiggle line is a river.
571
00:35:39,090 --> 00:35:41,300
And that night,
Nippy drops me off.
572
00:35:42,180 --> 00:35:44,140
I told him I had a meeting
with Lauren.
573
00:35:44,260 --> 00:35:47,270
Everybody has secrets though,
from each other.
574
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:52,770
Lauren was like, "Oh my God, I'm so
excited. This is actually happening."
575
00:35:54,070 --> 00:35:55,610
And she brings me upstairs.
We hug.
576
00:35:55,690 --> 00:35:59,360
She brings me to her guestroom
and says, "Take off your clothes.
577
00:35:59,450 --> 00:36:01,360
And I'll be back in a little bit."
578
00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:05,580
When she came back,
gave me a blindfold.
579
00:36:07,290 --> 00:36:10,290
I could feel like there were
other people around me.
580
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:14,210
And then she said, "Okay sisters,
take off your blindfolds."
581
00:36:14,290 --> 00:36:17,210
And we took our blindfolds off
and I saw who I was sitting with.
582
00:36:17,300 --> 00:36:20,550
Now, I'm sitting buck naked,
cross-legged on a sheepskin rug
583
00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:22,640
with four other women
who I know.
584
00:36:22,720 --> 00:36:24,850
And some of them
I've known for years.
585
00:36:25,100 --> 00:36:26,970
And we're all like,
"Oh my God, this is so weird."
586
00:36:27,100 --> 00:36:30,100
She's like, "Guys, it's your bodies.
You have to get over your issues."
587
00:36:30,230 --> 00:36:31,940
So, we're like... You know.
588
00:36:34,270 --> 00:36:36,860
We piled into her car,
put blindfolds on again.
589
00:36:36,940 --> 00:36:39,150
Drove somewhere.
It was supposed to be top secret.
590
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:41,950
But I cheated and looked out
of the bottom of my bandana
591
00:36:42,030 --> 00:36:44,490
and saw that we were
at Allison Mac's house.
592
00:36:47,830 --> 00:36:49,700
So now I know Allie's involved.
593
00:36:50,250 --> 00:36:53,960
And at that point, for the first
time, Lauren showed us her brand.
594
00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:56,590
It's not a tattoo.
595
00:36:57,550 --> 00:36:59,630
And I just was really freaked out.
596
00:37:01,510 --> 00:37:04,680
It's a fucking medical procedure
without anesthetic.
597
00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:08,600
And the first person laid down
on the table
598
00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:12,600
and they started to draw a line
in her flesh with a cauterizing iron
599
00:37:12,730 --> 00:37:15,690
and her flesh started to burn
and smoke and sizzle.
600
00:37:16,190 --> 00:37:17,820
We had to hold her down.
601
00:37:18,610 --> 00:37:22,070
We were crying. We were shaking.
We were holding each other.
602
00:37:22,530 --> 00:37:25,990
One of my other sisters and I
were looking at each other like,
603
00:37:26,950 --> 00:37:29,160
"What the fuck?
Like where the fuck are we?
604
00:37:29,240 --> 00:37:30,790
How do we get here?"
605
00:37:32,830 --> 00:37:34,460
I don't want to do this.
606
00:37:34,790 --> 00:37:38,250
I was just thinking,
how the fuck am I going to get out?
607
00:37:38,380 --> 00:37:40,550
I was even thinking about
texting Nippy and saying like,
608
00:37:40,670 --> 00:37:44,970
"Hey, I think I'm at Allison Mack's
house. I'm naked. Help me."
609
00:37:46,590 --> 00:37:48,260
Each person took 30 minutes.
610
00:37:48,350 --> 00:37:50,770
So, I had two hours of watching
other people get branded
611
00:37:50,850 --> 00:37:53,100
and they weren't doing well.
They were squirming.
612
00:37:53,180 --> 00:37:55,940
They were crying. They were twitching.
They were sweating.
613
00:37:56,060 --> 00:37:58,310
And at one-point Lauren
pulled me inside and she's like,
614
00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:01,400
"You're green. You need
to show them how to do this."
615
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:06,860
Everything in my body was going,
"Don't do this. Don't do this.
616
00:38:06,990 --> 00:38:09,200
Get the fuck out.
This is not a good thing to do."
617
00:38:09,330 --> 00:38:11,040
The other part of me is going,
618
00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:13,580
"I'm a fucking pussy.
I got to be strong."
619
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:16,750
I'm feeling the most fear
I've ever felt in my life.
620
00:38:16,830 --> 00:38:18,330
I sat down before my turn.
621
00:38:18,420 --> 00:38:21,210
I'm like, "Lauren, I don't want
this thing on my body."
622
00:38:21,300 --> 00:38:23,460
"But what's the worst part?
What does it mean?"
623
00:38:23,550 --> 00:38:25,170
What does it mean?
To be afraid?
624
00:38:25,260 --> 00:38:28,300
And she would literally EMing
just before I got branded.
625
00:38:28,390 --> 00:38:30,680
What's the worst thing
that can happen?
626
00:38:31,100 --> 00:38:33,270
I disassociated out of my body.
627
00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:39,150
And I lay on the table and I just
like, triggered a state of love.
628
00:38:39,770 --> 00:38:42,610
And I just thought about my son.
629
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:47,200
I thought about the moment when
I was actually giving birth to him,
630
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:51,120
all the other women were like,
"Oh my God, Sarah didn't even move."
631
00:38:51,490 --> 00:38:55,290
Then I opened my eyes and there's
Lauren staring at me lovingly.
632
00:38:56,410 --> 00:39:00,210
That brand was a really powerful
moment. You saw with me and you.
633
00:39:00,420 --> 00:39:02,750
- Yeah. Yeah.
- It was really beautiful. I cried.
634
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:04,920
- I thought it was so beautiful.
- So beautiful, Lauren.
635
00:39:05,010 --> 00:39:08,720
- And I had that same experience of it.
- It really was. It really, really was.
636
00:39:11,390 --> 00:39:16,930
I came out of that being like, "Holy
fuck, I did it. I can do anything."
637
00:39:21,150 --> 00:39:22,900
My dad has a joke.
638
00:39:23,020 --> 00:39:26,030
There's this old saying that goes,
"The squeaky wheel gets the grease."
639
00:39:26,150 --> 00:39:29,490
Whatever it is. My dad goes,
"Yeah, it also gets replaced."
640
00:39:31,410 --> 00:39:33,740
So, we didn't squeak a lot
in my house.
641
00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:38,790
I was dying to tell him.
642
00:39:38,870 --> 00:39:42,960
And I remember just like I said,
"Had a great meeting," or something.
643
00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:45,300
He was like, "Oh yeah."
He wasn't engaged.
644
00:39:45,380 --> 00:39:47,550
And I wanted to tell him like,
"I'm so strong.
645
00:39:47,630 --> 00:39:50,510
Like you'd never be able to do
what I just did."
646
00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:57,640
GOOD MORNING MASTER!
DID YOU GET SOME REST?
647
00:39:59,020 --> 00:40:03,020
Lauren told me to start making lists
of people I wanted to do this with.
648
00:40:03,190 --> 00:40:05,820
At this point I already had one slave
649
00:40:05,900 --> 00:40:08,900
and I'm like saying to Lauren,
"What do I do with her?"
650
00:40:08,990 --> 00:40:11,820
And I found out, like her other slaves
were doing errands for her
651
00:40:11,910 --> 00:40:13,780
and helping her around the house
652
00:40:13,870 --> 00:40:16,660
and like, whatever needed
to be done, foot rubs.
653
00:40:16,740 --> 00:40:18,950
AND DON'T FORGET MONTHLY
COLLATERAL IS DUE THURSDAY!
654
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:21,920
And then at some point she said,
"Yeah, we need new collaterals."
655
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:23,500
I was like, "What?"
656
00:40:23,580 --> 00:40:26,670
"We need new collateral every month
to strengthen your word every month."
657
00:40:26,750 --> 00:40:28,340
She's like, "You know with the deed
to your home."
658
00:40:28,420 --> 00:40:30,090
I'm like, "What do you mean
the deed to your home?"
659
00:40:30,170 --> 00:40:31,550
That's not how it works.
660
00:40:31,630 --> 00:40:36,680
You take the paperwork and you go
to a lawyer and get it notarized.
661
00:40:36,930 --> 00:40:39,270
LIKE WHAT IF THIS INFO GOT
INTO THE WRONG HANDS.
662
00:40:39,350 --> 00:40:42,480
I had a lot of questions
like who holds my collateral?
663
00:40:42,980 --> 00:40:47,110
Everything was, "You don't need
to know. That's your control issues."
664
00:40:47,980 --> 00:40:49,650
It's not what I signed up for.
665
00:40:49,740 --> 00:40:52,450
The whole, not what I signed up for
doesn't hold weight though,
666
00:40:52,530 --> 00:40:53,910
because I am at cause.
667
00:40:53,990 --> 00:40:57,370
I chose everything that happened
in this situation with DOS.
668
00:40:57,450 --> 00:41:01,620
I chose to be involved.
I chose to be committed.
669
00:41:01,790 --> 00:41:04,290
I chose to make
a vow of obedience to her.
670
00:41:04,630 --> 00:41:06,840
So now I've got to do
whatever she asks.
671
00:41:10,260 --> 00:41:12,510
Lauren started sending me
screenshots of women
672
00:41:12,590 --> 00:41:15,890
in my organization in Vancouver
through Facebook, like,
673
00:41:15,970 --> 00:41:18,060
"What about this girl?
What about this girl?"
674
00:41:18,140 --> 00:41:20,890
All beautiful, skinny girls.
675
00:41:22,100 --> 00:41:26,310
It became enroll, enroll, enroll,
recruit, recruit, recruit.
676
00:41:26,940 --> 00:41:29,230
Slaves to get slaves, to get slaves.
677
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:33,530
Check in every day
with who's on your list?
678
00:41:33,650 --> 00:41:36,910
Have they given collateral for first?
Have they given collateral for second?
679
00:41:36,990 --> 00:41:39,160
YOU WILL GET
A JOYFUL PHOTO TOMORROW!
680
00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:42,500
Most of the other masters
when recruiting, we're just like,
681
00:41:42,620 --> 00:41:45,750
"Let's just go to the bathroom.
I'll take a photo of your tits."
682
00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:51,000
There were so many things
that were not okay
683
00:41:51,090 --> 00:41:53,130
in a very short period of time.
684
00:41:54,630 --> 00:41:56,550
So, I'm putting things together.
685
00:41:57,090 --> 00:42:01,100
I can speculate I think it's Alli's
the Master of one group for sure.
686
00:42:02,060 --> 00:42:06,400
Right now, my belief is
that Alli could be the top.
687
00:42:20,370 --> 00:42:22,830
The symbol was not
a symbol for the elements,
688
00:42:22,950 --> 00:42:25,040
or whatever bullshit
they told us.
689
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:29,960
I just looked in the mirror and saw it.
You know, when a picture pops up
690
00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:32,420
and one of those paintings
with the thing emerges,
691
00:42:32,500 --> 00:42:35,630
you're like, "Oh, that's what it is."
It's a turtle or whatever.
692
00:42:35,720 --> 00:42:38,550
It was like, AM.
Oh my God.
693
00:42:43,180 --> 00:42:46,100
And I think it's a brand
of Allison Mack's initials
694
00:42:46,230 --> 00:42:48,900
and I knew that I was in her home
when I got branded.
695
00:42:49,020 --> 00:42:52,110
So, it seems like Allie Mack
is the top of this thing.
696
00:42:52,940 --> 00:42:54,940
And I showed my slave
697
00:42:55,030 --> 00:42:58,280
and I said, "Do you wanna see
what you're supposed to get?"
698
00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:00,370
and she was like, "Look!"
699
00:43:01,950 --> 00:43:04,330
And when you turn your head
to the sides
700
00:43:04,410 --> 00:43:07,660
it's a brand of Keith's initials
and Allison Mack's.
701
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:12,130
And I was like, "What the fuck?"
702
00:43:14,340 --> 00:43:15,880
I didn't make the brand.
703
00:43:16,010 --> 00:43:18,340
Okay. Yeah. I know
you didn't make the brand, Lauren.
704
00:43:18,430 --> 00:43:21,220
But now I just looked at it
from the side and its KR.
705
00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:24,430
I have Keith's initials
beside my vagina.
706
00:43:25,060 --> 00:43:28,100
Do you think Nippy's ever going
to want to go down there again?
707
00:43:28,230 --> 00:43:33,480
Is Keith behind DOS? Is Keith
the one who organized this?
708
00:43:36,570 --> 00:43:38,990
It's not something
that we discuss, Sarah.
709
00:43:39,070 --> 00:43:41,030
- Yeah, but Lauren, Lauren.
- It's irrelevant.
710
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:43,160
DOS started by a bunch of women
711
00:43:43,240 --> 00:43:46,660
and they got permission from Keith
to use some of the tools.
712
00:43:46,790 --> 00:43:49,960
He gave them permission
to use collateral and penance.
713
00:43:50,370 --> 00:43:52,960
Okay. But he didn't know
about the branding?
714
00:43:54,250 --> 00:43:56,550
He knew about it,
but he didn't cause it.
715
00:43:57,340 --> 00:44:00,090
And he didn't create the brand.
The girls did.
716
00:44:00,340 --> 00:44:02,550
Who's got my photos? For real?
717
00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:05,220
I promise you I am the only one
who has them.
718
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:10,520
Because when I took pictures
of my S's, I sent them to you.
719
00:44:11,190 --> 00:44:13,730
- Where are those?
- I didn't... I have them.
720
00:44:14,650 --> 00:44:18,320
Lauren, can you please promise me
to go in and delete them right now?
721
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:22,160
- Yeah.
- And my confessions and my family?
722
00:44:22,990 --> 00:44:24,950
Yes. I'll get rid of everything.
723
00:44:25,030 --> 00:44:27,370
Like, I'm getting freaked out
about where this is going
724
00:44:27,450 --> 00:44:30,370
and who's involved and I don't have
a problem if Keith wants to have sex,
725
00:44:30,460 --> 00:44:33,330
but if sex with him is part of this...
726
00:44:34,670 --> 00:44:36,460
I don't know
who's sleeping with Keith.
727
00:44:36,550 --> 00:44:38,840
You can ask them
but it's not something I'm doing.
728
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:41,550
And it's not a problem for me
what he's doing.
729
00:44:42,430 --> 00:44:45,510
And you were never going
to have to sleep with Keith.
730
00:44:58,070 --> 00:44:59,990
I wasn't brought in for Keith.
731
00:45:00,110 --> 00:45:04,240
What holds us back from being the
most awesome you that you can be?
732
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:06,870
- What do you think?
- Fear?
733
00:45:06,950 --> 00:45:10,290
- Fear. Correct. Yeah. What else?
- Bad habits.
734
00:45:10,580 --> 00:45:12,870
I was brought in
as a recruitment tool.
735
00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:19,840
- I feel so fucking responsible.
- I hear you.
736
00:45:21,090 --> 00:45:23,590
I feel responsible
for Nicky and Alli.
737
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:27,140
We brought the entertainment
industry into this company
738
00:45:27,260 --> 00:45:30,390
that happened to be populated
with very pretty girls.
739
00:45:31,100 --> 00:45:34,350
And why the fuck did Kristen Kreuk
leave? The real reason?
740
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:36,650
Is that why?
Was she approached?
741
00:45:36,730 --> 00:45:41,530
I am almost 90% certain
that something uncool happened.
742
00:45:41,940 --> 00:45:43,650
Are you fucking kidding me?
743
00:45:45,530 --> 00:45:49,990
There are so many women
that have left that look the same.
744
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:52,290
They're skinny.
They're young. They're pretty.
745
00:45:52,370 --> 00:45:55,210
They will not say anything
because they are so scared.
746
00:45:55,290 --> 00:45:59,090
Why? Because somebody
very powerful hit on them.
747
00:45:59,880 --> 00:46:01,210
Fuck me.
748
00:46:03,170 --> 00:46:05,970
- Can you please tell Nippy?
- Ok.
749
00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:10,560
I mean we're making decisions
about our life and where to live.
750
00:46:16,810 --> 00:46:19,110
You know, I think
the curriculum is second to none.
751
00:46:19,230 --> 00:46:20,730
I want my kid involved in that.
752
00:46:20,820 --> 00:46:23,570
I certainly don't want him
to grow up in Vancouver.
753
00:46:23,650 --> 00:46:28,280
Nip, it's a very delicate situation.
There are landmines ahead.
754
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:41,090
When Mark told me,
Sarah got branded
755
00:46:41,170 --> 00:46:43,000
and I was like, "What?"
756
00:46:43,300 --> 00:46:45,170
What is going on?
At first, I was kind of like,
757
00:46:45,260 --> 00:46:49,220
"Sarah, what are you doing?"
I didn't think Keith was part of it.
758
00:46:52,100 --> 00:46:55,890
Was Mark leaving a flare?
Like, something had gone off?
759
00:46:57,940 --> 00:47:01,150
In my mind I was blaming Bonnie,
760
00:47:01,270 --> 00:47:04,650
but Bonnie had seen Keith
for who he really is.
761
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:09,780
And I've been out there peddling this
fucking shit for however many years.
762
00:47:09,860 --> 00:47:12,080
So, in essence,
what a lie does is this.
763
00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:14,490
You're consciously taking shackles,
764
00:47:14,620 --> 00:47:17,250
putting it on
your filters of the world,
765
00:47:17,330 --> 00:47:21,250
and you're meant to run everything
through that filter of the lie.
766
00:47:22,420 --> 00:47:24,300
How do you feel?
767
00:47:25,460 --> 00:47:27,260
Pissed and scared.
768
00:47:27,470 --> 00:47:29,430
Mostly scared.
769
00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:32,930
Because there's also
the component of...
770
00:47:37,230 --> 00:47:41,900
If this isn't true what I was doing,
how do I not... What's real?
771
00:47:47,030 --> 00:47:50,490
They think it's noble
to not let the fear conduct
772
00:47:50,570 --> 00:47:52,120
and inform their decisions.
773
00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:54,740
I'm like, "Look,
if a bus is coming,
774
00:47:54,830 --> 00:47:56,580
you need to get
the fuck out of the way."
775
00:47:56,660 --> 00:48:00,080
Fear is not a bad thing.
It's a warning sign.
776
00:48:07,380 --> 00:48:10,380
Lauren, I don't know what's going on
but I'm hearing shit around branding.
777
00:48:10,470 --> 00:48:12,340
Sarah told me she got a brand.
778
00:48:12,430 --> 00:48:14,180
You might be participating
in some criminal behavior.
779
00:48:14,260 --> 00:48:15,560
I'm not in a... Nippy.
780
00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:19,060
I'm hearing stuff around collateral
which sounds a lot like blackmail.
781
00:48:19,180 --> 00:48:22,190
Nippy, I've known you 20 years.
Why can't we have a conversation?
782
00:48:22,310 --> 00:48:24,230
Because I don't want to have
a conversation about it.
783
00:48:24,310 --> 00:48:26,820
And I know you're going to go on
some diatribe how that's my anger.
784
00:48:26,900 --> 00:48:27,940
I'm not.
785
00:48:28,030 --> 00:48:30,280
Ten years of my life I've gone
and I've supported this organization.
786
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:32,820
I've put my heart and fucking soul
behind this stuff.
787
00:48:32,910 --> 00:48:35,990
The definition of personal growth
isn't getting fucking branded
788
00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:38,790
with Keith's fucking initials
in her crotch.
789
00:48:38,870 --> 00:48:41,290
What do you mean, yeah?
It's disgusting, Lauren.
790
00:48:41,370 --> 00:48:42,870
You believe something
is disgusting
791
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:44,790
that you don't understand
and are not wanting...
792
00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:47,130
- Nor do I care to understand it.
- Why? What if you're wrong?
793
00:48:47,210 --> 00:48:49,090
- Because I don't want...
- What if you're wrong?
794
00:48:49,170 --> 00:48:50,760
What if you're wrong?
795
00:48:51,550 --> 00:48:53,760
I have a three year old boy.
I have a wife.
796
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:56,010
I don't want them subjected
to any of this crap.
797
00:48:56,100 --> 00:48:57,850
I'm sorry. That's my stance.
798
00:48:58,180 --> 00:48:59,770
I'm sorry that you feel this way.
799
00:48:59,850 --> 00:49:02,350
I'm sorry that you're branding
my fucking wife.
800
00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:05,690
You're one of my best friends.
I love you.
801
00:49:05,770 --> 00:49:07,610
If you can't see how this is bad,
802
00:49:07,690 --> 00:49:10,070
then I don't think we have
anything else to talk about.
803
00:49:10,150 --> 00:49:13,070
I'm stepping down from SOP
immediately. I'm out.
804
00:49:16,620 --> 00:49:19,870
Sarah, what does he know?
I mean, what did you tell him?
805
00:49:19,990 --> 00:49:23,410
I just told them that I had it. He was
going to see it eventually, right?
806
00:49:23,500 --> 00:49:26,960
Yeah. Then I would explain
things to him.
807
00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:30,380
I mean, part of why we didn't tell
the men what we were doing
808
00:49:30,460 --> 00:49:33,800
is because of
what's going on right now.
809
00:49:33,970 --> 00:49:36,220
Which is, the main think
the women are victims of it,
810
00:49:36,300 --> 00:49:39,720
they come into play hero,
and make the women victims of it.
811
00:49:39,930 --> 00:49:42,640
And they're trying
to shut the whole thing down.
812
00:49:44,980 --> 00:49:47,560
Right now, I just need
to step back and take a breath
813
00:49:47,690 --> 00:49:49,730
and you know, fix my marriage.
814
00:49:50,530 --> 00:49:53,650
And I can't really deal
with this other stuff.
815
00:49:55,410 --> 00:49:57,990
I think that if Nippy
really understood this,
816
00:49:58,070 --> 00:49:59,950
he would want it to exist.
817
00:50:00,240 --> 00:50:03,040
You know, he's on
the leadership council of SOP.
818
00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:05,460
Like, this is
what we're fighting for.
819
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:07,920
But I don't feel good about it.
820
00:50:08,750 --> 00:50:09,960
Okay.
821
00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:11,800
I want to go back
to being your friend.
822
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:13,880
I don't want to have
this collateral.
823
00:50:13,970 --> 00:50:16,340
Did you say
that you have deleted things?
824
00:50:16,720 --> 00:50:18,970
Do you know what?
I have an issue with it,
825
00:50:19,050 --> 00:50:21,010
and I want to talk to you about it.
826
00:50:21,260 --> 00:50:23,770
You made a vow,
which I view as a sacred vow.
827
00:50:23,850 --> 00:50:26,270
In a way, out of fear,
you violated that.
828
00:50:26,890 --> 00:50:28,770
How did I violate it?
829
00:50:29,020 --> 00:50:30,820
By disclosing to Nippy.
830
00:50:30,980 --> 00:50:34,070
Nippy. Lauren,
he was always going to see it.
831
00:50:34,150 --> 00:50:37,490
I didn't disclose anything that we
didn't agree I was going to disclose.
832
00:50:37,610 --> 00:50:39,910
I understand
if you want to choose Nippy
833
00:50:39,990 --> 00:50:42,740
and I'm telling you
it's okay with me.
834
00:50:43,490 --> 00:50:46,290
But you and I did discuss this
before you came in,
835
00:50:46,410 --> 00:50:48,500
that I said you would uphold
the relationship with me
836
00:50:48,620 --> 00:50:51,290
above your relationship with Nippy
and you said, "Yes."
837
00:50:51,420 --> 00:50:53,800
I'm not choosing you
over my husband.
838
00:50:54,010 --> 00:50:55,300
I think it's good.
839
00:50:55,380 --> 00:50:58,050
This is not real.
You know, you're not my master.
840
00:50:58,180 --> 00:51:01,010
I'm not your slave, you know?
This is an exercise.
841
00:51:01,140 --> 00:51:03,890
This is a metaphor.
It's not real.
842
00:51:05,180 --> 00:51:06,560
Okay.
843
00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:08,850
And I don't think
you have bad intent about this,
844
00:51:08,980 --> 00:51:11,230
but this is not
what you said it was.
845
00:51:15,820 --> 00:51:19,200
HEY LAUR
846
00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:23,120
I HEAR YOU ARE TELLING
PEOPLE I AM "UNHINGED".
847
00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:26,870
DON'T FUCK WITH ME.
I WON'T FUCK WITH YOU
848
00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:30,710
Our relationships are the place
where we learn to be human.
849
00:51:31,830 --> 00:51:34,170
There are aspects of it
that are beautiful
850
00:51:34,250 --> 00:51:36,960
and there's aspects
that thwart your growth.
851
00:51:37,210 --> 00:51:39,800
You have to learn
to work with both.
852
00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:43,930
You do because in love there's
wanting to care about other people
853
00:51:44,010 --> 00:51:47,520
and wanting to connect with them on
that level where you also help them
854
00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:49,980
and sometimes you say things
that are hard for them.
855
00:51:50,100 --> 00:51:54,480
But they don't leave
the interaction feeling abused,
856
00:51:54,650 --> 00:51:57,530
they leave
the interaction feeling supported.
857
00:52:09,460 --> 00:52:11,750
Do you ever feel
like you failed Sarah?
858
00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:15,250
- In what capacity?
- To protect her.
859
00:52:19,090 --> 00:52:20,470
No.
860
00:52:22,510 --> 00:52:24,550
Because ultimately,
I think I did.
861
00:52:24,850 --> 00:52:27,810
I mean, if I had known things sooner
and didn't do anything,
862
00:52:27,890 --> 00:52:30,140
yeah, obviously. But it just...
863
00:52:30,270 --> 00:52:32,140
Thing happened
underneath my nose.
864
00:52:32,230 --> 00:52:35,020
I trusted Lauren.
I trusted this whole thing.
865
00:52:35,110 --> 00:52:37,360
We're talking about
building strength.
866
00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:40,030
Let's say you're 23, 24 right now,
867
00:52:40,110 --> 00:52:43,490
and you're the kind of person
who wants to do good.
868
00:52:43,610 --> 00:52:47,080
Where would you go? Do you trust
our legal system for that?
869
00:52:47,830 --> 00:52:50,370
Do you trust our political system
for that?
870
00:52:50,450 --> 00:52:51,790
Really, Nippy...
871
00:52:51,870 --> 00:52:54,330
You're one of the most
principled people I've ever met.
872
00:52:54,420 --> 00:52:56,290
It always makes me like,
"Oh my God.
873
00:52:56,380 --> 00:52:58,960
He has such a beautiful vision
for the world."
874
00:52:59,050 --> 00:53:01,550
- I know. I think about it.
- I know you do.
875
00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:06,100
In my 16 day, I happened to be reading
a book called 'The Death of Outrage'.
876
00:53:06,180 --> 00:53:09,010
This is when Clinton
in the White House with an intern
877
00:53:09,100 --> 00:53:11,770
was our biggest problem.
And I remember thinking,
878
00:53:11,850 --> 00:53:14,900
"This is absurd that we have
a leader who's doing this."
879
00:53:14,980 --> 00:53:16,520
And Keith is addressing
880
00:53:16,610 --> 00:53:19,980
and talking about America
being docile, overweight, stupid.
881
00:53:20,150 --> 00:53:23,990
This guy's talking the way that
I think people needed to be talking.
882
00:53:24,740 --> 00:53:27,450
Responsibility exists
whether you see it or not.
883
00:53:27,530 --> 00:53:29,160
Responsibility is the physics,
884
00:53:29,240 --> 00:53:31,080
the interconnectedness
of all things.
885
00:53:31,160 --> 00:53:33,710
You can try to deny it,
but that's your stupidity.
886
00:53:33,830 --> 00:53:36,790
Write an excuse?
Prove to me you're impotent.
887
00:53:38,090 --> 00:53:39,420
Blame someone?
888
00:53:39,500 --> 00:53:43,050
Now you show me that you've been
dominated and you're a victim.
889
00:53:47,010 --> 00:53:48,600
I was the jackass.
890
00:53:50,060 --> 00:53:52,680
And once you can reconcile
what you did,
891
00:53:52,770 --> 00:53:57,020
how you did it, the next step
is pretty clear. You fix it.
892
00:53:59,320 --> 00:54:02,320
SUMMER 2017
893
00:54:03,570 --> 00:54:05,650
You got to give Butter.
894
00:54:11,580 --> 00:54:13,620
Oh my God,
I didn't realize it was 4:28.
895
00:54:13,700 --> 00:54:15,040
I gotta run. Okay.
896
00:54:22,500 --> 00:54:25,300
Another one of the things
that happened when I was first in ESP
897
00:54:25,420 --> 00:54:27,220
is driving in a situation like this
898
00:54:27,300 --> 00:54:29,260
and got a little road rage
with someone
899
00:54:29,430 --> 00:54:32,890
and there was a coach
in the back
900
00:54:33,020 --> 00:54:37,650
and he was like, "Sarah, you're
an ambassador for humanity now.
901
00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:43,230
You're not allowed
to express that emotion."
902
00:54:46,030 --> 00:54:48,360
Oh man, so complicated.
903
00:54:56,040 --> 00:54:58,290
Been waiting to do that
for a long time.
904
00:55:05,710 --> 00:55:08,880
I'm going to film this and I wanna
make sure that everything's documented
905
00:55:08,970 --> 00:55:10,720
that I'm doing the right thing.
906
00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:14,260
I'm passing over everything that you
guys need to run the Vancouver Center.
907
00:55:14,430 --> 00:55:16,930
I'm trying to step away
and do what is right.
908
00:55:17,480 --> 00:55:19,440
And I know you think
it's a good thing,
909
00:55:19,560 --> 00:55:21,810
but it's very, very fucking serious.
910
00:55:23,570 --> 00:55:26,860
It's human trafficking
and it's getting women to commit
911
00:55:26,940 --> 00:55:31,030
and be under a vow to get closer and
closer and closer to sex with Keith.
912
00:55:31,820 --> 00:55:36,200
Do not enroll anyone else into this.
It is illegal, unethical, immoral.
913
00:55:36,870 --> 00:55:39,620
You're fucking yourselves.
Do you understand?
914
00:55:40,500 --> 00:55:42,670
- I hear your words.
- I understand what you're saying.
915
00:55:42,750 --> 00:55:46,300
I know you're going to tell all that
to Lauren and Keith and whoever.
916
00:55:46,420 --> 00:55:48,380
I'm officially off the sidelines.
917
00:55:49,680 --> 00:55:52,970
It's not okay for me
to just be silent. Okay?
918
00:55:58,640 --> 00:56:01,770
Don't say I didn't warn you.
I've always had your back.
919
00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:08,860
It's all out in the open.
920
00:56:08,990 --> 00:56:12,450
About the collateral.
I'm told everyone has collateral.
921
00:56:12,530 --> 00:56:14,530
Photos will be released or not.
922
00:56:14,700 --> 00:56:17,290
I don't give a shit.
Everyone can see it.
923
00:56:20,620 --> 00:56:22,210
You okay?
924
00:56:30,380 --> 00:56:32,930
- I'm broken.
- I feel that.
925
00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:38,140
- Everything feels like my fault.
- No.
926
00:56:39,810 --> 00:56:41,440
I feel like...
927
00:56:42,100 --> 00:56:45,110
Because all these people
came through us. You know?
928
00:56:47,570 --> 00:56:50,110
We brought them in,
we have to take them out.
79414
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