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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:01:17,870 --> 00:01:19,580 This is the origin of it. 2 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:23,580 The group started out like what if women could really do something? 3 00:01:23,710 --> 00:01:26,380 And it grew kind of out of that over a couple of years. 4 00:01:27,210 --> 00:01:29,840 It became more of a sorority recently. I think. 5 00:01:30,260 --> 00:01:32,670 That was kind of when I got involved in it. 6 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:36,680 And I was super motivated by fucking Trump election 7 00:01:36,890 --> 00:01:39,890 thinking we have to fucking do something in the world. 8 00:01:40,010 --> 00:01:42,600 And what if women could really do something. 9 00:01:43,020 --> 00:01:45,810 And excited about the underground concept about it. 10 00:01:45,900 --> 00:01:49,440 That like, we couldn't be thwarted because nobody would know. 11 00:01:50,570 --> 00:01:53,740 The women who were doing it were experiencing wonderful things 12 00:01:53,820 --> 00:01:55,240 about their commitment. 13 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:58,160 And they wanted to memorialize it permanently. 14 00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:00,450 I don't know exactly who the person was, 15 00:02:00,540 --> 00:02:03,960 but I know that like somebody raised the concept of branding. 16 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:06,920 Because what building a principle of self is, 17 00:02:07,330 --> 00:02:10,750 is you choose self above fear. 18 00:02:14,050 --> 00:02:17,590 THE VOW 19 00:02:24,390 --> 00:02:26,230 Days we were young 20 00:02:26,390 --> 00:02:31,940 We took photographs Of everything we could see 21 00:02:32,190 --> 00:02:35,280 We had to run from it 22 00:02:35,570 --> 00:02:42,410 Priest and prophetess We were nothing we would defy 23 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:50,540 Invisible skin Where is the world within? 24 00:02:51,460 --> 00:02:56,590 Invincible skin It's how we all begin 25 00:03:00,640 --> 00:03:03,970 AT CAUSE 26 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:21,530 I said it's important. Please call me back. 27 00:03:21,620 --> 00:03:23,490 I can't believe she went through that. 28 00:03:23,580 --> 00:03:26,200 I wonder what the fuck... Yeah that's terrible. 29 00:03:29,250 --> 00:03:31,460 - Sarah? - Hi. 30 00:03:32,170 --> 00:03:34,710 I want to talk about the thing you texted me. 31 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:38,050 Yeah. It's just... 32 00:03:42,140 --> 00:03:43,850 Sarah? 33 00:03:44,890 --> 00:03:46,720 Sarah? 34 00:03:49,230 --> 00:03:53,480 - I feel like I might faint. - Yeah. So I... 35 00:03:53,650 --> 00:03:56,070 I'm hyperventilating. Maybe a panic attack. 36 00:03:56,150 --> 00:03:58,780 - I don't know. I've never had one. - You're having a panic attack, Sarah. 37 00:03:58,860 --> 00:04:02,820 You're having a panic attack. Yeah. I'm so sorry. 38 00:04:11,620 --> 00:04:13,580 Okay. Just keep telling me things 39 00:04:13,670 --> 00:04:15,800 and then I've got to figure out what I'm going to do here. 40 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:17,960 This is about having sex with Keith? 41 00:04:18,050 --> 00:04:20,680 - That's my belief, yeah. - Oh, Mark. 42 00:04:26,890 --> 00:04:28,680 - I'm kind of shocked right now. - I understand. 43 00:04:28,770 --> 00:04:31,600 And yet not shocked and yet, not. You know what I mean? Like... 44 00:04:31,730 --> 00:04:33,860 This shit's been there, right? You've seen it. 45 00:04:33,980 --> 00:04:36,190 Oh yeah. No. Right from the beginning. 46 00:04:43,450 --> 00:04:46,490 I'm just a bit pissed with myself for not 47 00:04:46,580 --> 00:04:48,540 catching certain things. 48 00:04:48,660 --> 00:04:50,910 There are a bunch of different stages. 49 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:53,540 And it's profound when you begin to realize 50 00:04:53,620 --> 00:04:56,540 what you've been doing and how you made it okay. 51 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:01,550 I'm done. I'm resigning from everything. But I'll tell you... 52 00:05:01,630 --> 00:05:04,260 Dude I'm so dependent. This is my income too. 53 00:05:04,840 --> 00:05:07,140 I understand. And what you're going to have to do 54 00:05:07,220 --> 00:05:10,180 is you're going to have to smile and suck it up. 55 00:05:11,020 --> 00:05:12,940 But I'm going to have your back. 56 00:05:13,690 --> 00:05:16,060 Just give it some time to settle in. 57 00:05:17,860 --> 00:05:19,440 Yeah. 58 00:05:27,030 --> 00:05:29,660 So, this is my first year or two of curriculum. 59 00:05:30,410 --> 00:05:32,870 That's uncomfortable for me to see it now. 60 00:05:38,750 --> 00:05:42,130 "Success is an internal state of clear, honest knowledge 61 00:05:42,210 --> 00:05:44,260 of what I am, my value in the world 62 00:05:44,380 --> 00:05:47,680 and my responsibility for the way I react to all things. 63 00:05:47,850 --> 00:05:49,430 There are no ultimate victims. 64 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:52,060 Therefore, I'll not choose to be a victim." 65 00:05:52,140 --> 00:05:54,810 That is a key foundational piece for the rest of ESP. 66 00:05:54,890 --> 00:05:56,310 Why are you a victim to it? 67 00:05:56,440 --> 00:05:58,480 Why don't you get in there and change it. 68 00:05:58,610 --> 00:06:01,480 Being an aspiring actress and living in a basement suite 69 00:06:01,570 --> 00:06:03,650 and not feeling super confident 70 00:06:03,860 --> 00:06:05,660 I'd get a job and I was really happy. 71 00:06:05,740 --> 00:06:07,240 And then I wouldn't get work and I'd be really low. 72 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:09,240 I was dating someone, and I'd be happy. 73 00:06:09,330 --> 00:06:11,240 And then I'd break up with them and be really low. 74 00:06:11,330 --> 00:06:14,500 It was always up and down. I wasn't consistently joyful. 75 00:06:16,330 --> 00:06:19,960 All emotions are triggered by the recognition of the difference 76 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:24,260 between the way we want the world to be and the way the world is. 77 00:06:25,090 --> 00:06:27,130 You will become aware that you choose 78 00:06:27,220 --> 00:06:30,890 your emotional and behavioral responses in all situations. 79 00:06:31,510 --> 00:06:34,770 This is what we refer to as being at cause. 80 00:06:35,430 --> 00:06:39,020 When you're at cause everything that you feel you cause. 81 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:43,860 No one else can make you feel any way. I can change my state. 82 00:06:44,150 --> 00:06:46,650 That is a huge, beautiful shift to have. 83 00:06:46,740 --> 00:06:49,530 I could feel whatever I want. Anytime. 84 00:06:49,780 --> 00:06:51,580 It was really interesting because when I met you, 85 00:06:51,660 --> 00:06:53,410 there was a certain trajectory you were on. 86 00:06:53,540 --> 00:06:56,330 And she took some of these tools and she just took this right angle turn 87 00:06:56,410 --> 00:07:00,460 to now having multiple careers and making a lot of money. 88 00:07:00,750 --> 00:07:02,130 Can I say that? I did. 89 00:07:02,340 --> 00:07:05,050 Not because of me. Because she really worked very hard. 90 00:07:05,170 --> 00:07:07,340 Not because of me. So, what is it? 91 00:07:10,220 --> 00:07:12,760 It took a few years to crystallize from helping me 92 00:07:12,890 --> 00:07:14,930 to this was going to be my business. 93 00:07:16,140 --> 00:07:18,890 Because I didn't start making money right away. 94 00:07:20,190 --> 00:07:21,810 The stripe path was just a means. 95 00:07:21,940 --> 00:07:24,820 It was a vehicle for me to grow in a measurable way. 96 00:07:26,780 --> 00:07:29,490 So, for example, if you wanted to earn commission, 97 00:07:29,570 --> 00:07:32,320 you have to enroll on average one person a month 98 00:07:32,410 --> 00:07:34,410 and into minimum of five day. 99 00:07:34,490 --> 00:07:36,500 I heard you're one of the top sales people. 100 00:07:36,620 --> 00:07:37,790 True story. 101 00:07:40,620 --> 00:07:43,170 I went up the stripe path very quickly 102 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:47,760 with my competitive nature. 103 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:50,890 Everybody rolls out of bed and wants to be better. 104 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:55,510 But how many people actually step out of their comfort zone? 105 00:07:56,060 --> 00:07:59,350 Barbara Bouchey was the best salesperson in the company. 106 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:02,150 And people say, "I can't. I can't find the time. 107 00:08:02,270 --> 00:08:05,360 I'm too busy. I can't squeeze anything in." 108 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:08,240 You're exactly the type of person that needs the program. 109 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:11,160 You know why? Your life is obviously controlling you. 110 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:14,410 She invested in me. Oversaw my sales. Nurtured them. 111 00:08:14,780 --> 00:08:18,660 It's all marketing. So, are you going to be part of marketing or not? 112 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:20,580 She would even fly me to Albany 113 00:08:20,660 --> 00:08:23,000 when I didn't have any money to get trained with Keith. 114 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:25,340 Imagine if I found a way to cure cancer. 115 00:08:25,420 --> 00:08:27,420 I can't run up and down the road and yell 116 00:08:27,500 --> 00:08:31,300 "I cured cancer, I cured cancer." And the whole world will rejoice. 117 00:08:31,630 --> 00:08:33,430 I need credibility, right? 118 00:08:34,680 --> 00:08:39,020 You're going to tell someone you're going to better their life. Right? 119 00:08:40,680 --> 00:08:42,480 Who are you competing against? 120 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:46,320 Everyone in the universe. You better be good. 121 00:08:48,570 --> 00:08:49,940 I keep drawing a blank. 122 00:08:50,030 --> 00:08:53,240 That's okay. And I know I'm giving you unbearable grief. 123 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:54,370 It's OK. 124 00:08:54,450 --> 00:08:57,410 But if you could do it here, you can do it in New York. 125 00:08:57,660 --> 00:09:00,700 I know. I should know this. All right. 126 00:09:01,620 --> 00:09:03,170 Who's ready to have fun? 127 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:06,290 All right. Okay. 128 00:09:06,590 --> 00:09:10,340 So, in order to have fun, we don't want anyone to get hurt. Right? 129 00:09:10,630 --> 00:09:12,260 No, not fun enough. 130 00:09:12,420 --> 00:09:15,180 Who here is here to have fun? Fun? 131 00:09:16,850 --> 00:09:18,810 Come on. Fun? 132 00:09:20,100 --> 00:09:21,140 OK. 133 00:09:21,230 --> 00:09:23,770 You should be trying to turn up their energy level. 134 00:09:23,850 --> 00:09:24,900 Okay. 135 00:09:25,020 --> 00:09:27,360 When the audience gives you the signal that they got it, 136 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:29,230 you move, you move, you move. 137 00:09:29,900 --> 00:09:31,240 Okay. What is this? 138 00:09:34,450 --> 00:09:35,610 Nine. Okay. 139 00:09:36,030 --> 00:09:39,830 How could I make this into a representation of the number six 140 00:09:39,950 --> 00:09:41,120 with one line? 141 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:43,330 What I was sold on and what I sold other people 142 00:09:43,410 --> 00:09:46,710 was that they could be the best, ideal version of themselves. 143 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:52,970 How many times are we limited? We're not seeing the curvy line 144 00:09:53,050 --> 00:09:55,590 because we think it must be, should be, is, 145 00:09:55,680 --> 00:09:57,430 believe it to be straight. 146 00:09:57,760 --> 00:10:01,390 Throw the curtain away from the little guy in the wizard of Oz. Right? 147 00:10:01,470 --> 00:10:03,560 We were taught that this is manipulative, 148 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:05,190 but it's a good manipulation. 149 00:10:05,270 --> 00:10:08,480 You first have to establish for them how valuable their dream is. 150 00:10:08,610 --> 00:10:13,070 I need to first solicit what you need to even say this is how much it cost. 151 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:14,990 That's what this is about. 152 00:10:15,150 --> 00:10:18,240 How much is it worth to know the little guy in your life? 153 00:10:18,740 --> 00:10:21,580 How much do drop-ins cost? 154 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:24,460 What's the price of what we offer? 155 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:27,290 Let's say 20 bucks a week. 156 00:10:27,370 --> 00:10:31,550 Now, if you were able to take as many of those two-hour classes a week... 157 00:10:31,670 --> 00:10:33,420 Like, unlimited classes. 158 00:10:33,510 --> 00:10:36,800 How much would you pay to be able to take as many as you want? 159 00:10:38,390 --> 00:10:40,930 But what's the price of not having it? 160 00:10:43,430 --> 00:10:46,270 And what I believe from what you told me, Mr. Jones, 161 00:10:46,350 --> 00:10:49,560 is that not only do you have dreams, but you're the sort of person, 162 00:10:49,650 --> 00:10:53,030 it sounds like you have a real passion towards your dreams 163 00:10:53,150 --> 00:10:55,610 and that your dreams are important to you. 164 00:10:55,690 --> 00:11:00,490 I can't imagine that you would sell them for $10 a day. Sell them away. 165 00:11:03,580 --> 00:11:07,000 It's not a question of, if we can be a hundred-million-dollar business, 166 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:10,580 it's a question of the how and how long do you want to take 167 00:11:10,670 --> 00:11:14,090 and how do you want to take it? How do you want to do it? Not if. 168 00:11:15,630 --> 00:11:18,220 I was excited about making an actual living. 169 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:20,470 I mean, up until this point, 170 00:11:20,550 --> 00:11:23,010 I was bringing in thousands of dollars to the company. 171 00:11:23,100 --> 00:11:26,560 This is my orange sash. I'm very proud of it. 172 00:11:27,270 --> 00:11:29,270 But I'll just tell you that my first five day, 173 00:11:29,390 --> 00:11:32,730 when they brought out the sashes I was like, "What is this?" 174 00:11:32,810 --> 00:11:36,530 I called Mark and I'm like "What have you gotten me involved with?" 175 00:11:42,410 --> 00:11:45,040 Seriously Mark, if you step down, I'm nervous 176 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:47,200 because I have so much invested. 177 00:11:47,540 --> 00:11:48,710 I know. 178 00:11:50,250 --> 00:11:52,130 Don't worry about that today. 179 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:56,590 Honestly, I'm not saying this make you feel guilty, but I trusted you. 180 00:11:56,670 --> 00:11:57,760 I know. 181 00:11:57,840 --> 00:12:00,260 Because your connection with Keith, you know? And I... 182 00:12:00,340 --> 00:12:04,260 - I'm not blaming you. Not at all. - No, Sarah, I have fucked up epicly. 183 00:12:05,930 --> 00:12:08,350 So, who is having sex with Keith? 184 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:12,730 - I don't have all the details. - Okay. 185 00:12:13,810 --> 00:12:16,480 But like as one of his apparently top salespeople 186 00:12:16,610 --> 00:12:18,900 is that why I can't get time with him? 187 00:12:18,990 --> 00:12:21,410 Cause I'm not going to have sex with him? 188 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:23,660 Like never asked me. 189 00:12:24,030 --> 00:12:25,700 Those are good questions. 190 00:12:26,700 --> 00:12:30,460 I don't know like all the stuff that you're saying makes total sense 191 00:12:30,580 --> 00:12:32,370 but my personal relationships 192 00:12:32,500 --> 00:12:35,670 with certain people like Lauren are so close. 193 00:12:37,380 --> 00:12:40,720 And, suddenly you don't know what's true and not true. 194 00:12:41,090 --> 00:12:43,510 Like, that's the part that's hard for me. 195 00:12:44,180 --> 00:12:47,060 It's like I trust you and I then I also trust them. 196 00:12:47,260 --> 00:12:49,680 Like, I don't know how to reconcile that. 197 00:12:50,980 --> 00:12:53,560 Whatever you do, record everything. 198 00:13:00,860 --> 00:13:03,990 This is Nancy and her daughters, Lauren and Michelle. 199 00:13:04,660 --> 00:13:08,240 There's a Jewish term. Mishpocheh means family. 200 00:13:08,910 --> 00:13:11,710 And when you meet someone, it's like Mishpocheh. 201 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:13,210 So, hi! 202 00:13:14,710 --> 00:13:18,420 Is everybody staying for stimulus response or we're doing two? 203 00:13:18,670 --> 00:13:20,550 I think I met Lauren in Albany. 204 00:13:22,510 --> 00:13:24,260 She was the head of education. 205 00:13:24,380 --> 00:13:27,300 And I loved having her teach because she'd do it in a very cool way. 206 00:13:27,430 --> 00:13:29,510 You're leaving? Okay. Come kiss me. 207 00:13:30,430 --> 00:13:33,350 By the time I'd met her, Nancy had talked her up to me fair bit. 208 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:36,520 You know, how much I'd love her? We're both interested in theater. 209 00:13:36,610 --> 00:13:38,820 I think we have a couple of... 210 00:13:39,110 --> 00:13:42,070 NXIVM's top 10, most sexy men in our cast. 211 00:13:44,070 --> 00:13:46,530 She was just over a year older than me. 212 00:13:46,660 --> 00:13:50,830 My mom and her mom are both therapists. We were so similar. 213 00:13:55,830 --> 00:13:58,170 - Do you want to be successful, Lauren? - Yeah. 214 00:13:58,250 --> 00:14:00,880 It's worth a lot to you, isn't it? A very lot. 215 00:14:02,630 --> 00:14:03,970 When I came to Albany, 216 00:14:04,050 --> 00:14:07,260 we'd go, get our nails done before intensives, we'd shop. 217 00:14:07,340 --> 00:14:10,510 I wanted to make sure the Canadians could be on with us. 218 00:14:12,020 --> 00:14:15,140 It's equivalent of my therapist and superior. 219 00:14:17,150 --> 00:14:20,190 And best friend. It's a very bizarre combination. 220 00:14:20,610 --> 00:14:24,110 And that's who I EM'd with. That's who I trusted the most. 221 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:29,070 EXPLORATION OF MEANINGS 222 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:31,370 Most EM's lead back to a memory 223 00:14:31,450 --> 00:14:34,960 and it's looking at the belief system that causes reactions. 224 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:39,130 All the facilitator has to do is fill in missing information of logic 225 00:14:39,210 --> 00:14:41,250 that you didn't have when you were a kid. 226 00:14:41,340 --> 00:14:44,010 Camera is going to focus on this screen and I'm going to turn this mic on. 227 00:14:44,090 --> 00:14:47,050 Today what we're going to do is learn how to explore meaning, 228 00:14:47,130 --> 00:14:49,720 but before we can learn how to explore meaning 229 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:53,600 we have to have a good understanding of the surface structure 230 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:55,480 versus the deep structure. 231 00:14:55,560 --> 00:14:58,900 Like, this cup, definition of a cup 232 00:14:58,980 --> 00:15:01,940 is you can use it to carry, contain, to hold things. 233 00:15:02,020 --> 00:15:05,900 Meaning of it may be this is my favorite cup. It's a very special cup. 234 00:15:05,990 --> 00:15:08,820 It's my, I don't feel okay if I don't have the cup. 235 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:13,290 You're interacting with things, not as they are, but as you imbue them. 236 00:15:13,410 --> 00:15:15,040 I used EM with a number of other people, 237 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:18,040 which I didn't find nearly as efficient as Lauren. 238 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:21,290 And Lauren was I think 375 US for an EM. 239 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:24,170 Like three times what everyone else charges. 240 00:15:24,250 --> 00:15:26,760 Why is it important that you get approval from others? 241 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:28,970 But Lauren was sort of the queen of it. 242 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:32,550 You have to understand that somebody comes to you for an EM 243 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:34,680 what they say is, "Can you help me?" 244 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:36,640 But then when you start to get close to the issue, 245 00:15:36,730 --> 00:15:39,100 they do everything to keep you from helping them. 246 00:15:39,190 --> 00:15:42,020 Especially with acting. It is really hard on the self-esteem. 247 00:15:42,150 --> 00:15:43,650 If you get a part, you don't know why. 248 00:15:43,770 --> 00:15:45,650 If you don't get a part, you don't know why. 249 00:15:45,730 --> 00:15:47,690 And when you feel that you make it mean something 250 00:15:47,820 --> 00:15:50,160 that it doesn't mean, you need to EM that. 251 00:15:51,030 --> 00:15:53,450 And that's why I became such a good enroller 252 00:15:53,530 --> 00:15:56,240 because I'd used the tools and get an EM and then I'd be like, 253 00:15:56,330 --> 00:15:59,750 "Okay, well some people are going to reject me and that's okay. 254 00:15:59,830 --> 00:16:02,880 They're not rejecting me. They're rejecting the tools. I'm fine." 255 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:05,380 So, I became very bulletproof in that way. 256 00:16:05,460 --> 00:16:08,470 That's why you get an EM with somebody else and not with yourself 257 00:16:08,550 --> 00:16:11,890 because you trust them enough to take you through a process 258 00:16:11,970 --> 00:16:13,800 where you're going to confront that fear 259 00:16:13,890 --> 00:16:16,470 and come out with more information and not have it at the end. 260 00:16:16,560 --> 00:16:19,180 But if it were up to you, you'd never face it. 261 00:16:26,150 --> 00:16:29,990 Okay. So, one person decided to leave, 262 00:16:30,070 --> 00:16:33,570 and they went and told Mark and I think Bonnie, a bunch of shit. 263 00:16:33,990 --> 00:16:35,870 I don't know what she told them. 264 00:16:36,580 --> 00:16:38,540 I know they know about brands. 265 00:16:39,660 --> 00:16:41,000 Okay. 266 00:16:41,330 --> 00:16:45,250 But Bonnie left, and Mark wanted to leave before any of this came out. 267 00:16:45,420 --> 00:16:47,710 And there was a lot of stuff that we've had to clean up 268 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:51,670 because Mark, he wouldn't talk to us and didn't tell us it was coming. 269 00:16:51,930 --> 00:16:55,430 I think this has now become the thing that they're talk about. 270 00:16:55,640 --> 00:16:59,600 And they're saying defamatory things that will destroy business. 271 00:17:01,560 --> 00:17:04,190 You know, the only reason I did is because I trust you and I love you, 272 00:17:04,270 --> 00:17:07,360 but I'm taking a step back, going, 273 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:10,320 "What did I get into here?" 274 00:17:12,450 --> 00:17:15,820 I trusted somebody as well and I got the brand. 275 00:17:16,950 --> 00:17:21,290 It's a little out there stuff, but there's reasonable explanations for it. 276 00:17:22,910 --> 00:17:26,710 If there was anything that I thought was bad, Sarah, I would leave. 277 00:17:26,790 --> 00:17:30,420 What if it was, Lauren, and you're not in the loop of that? 278 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:36,510 I'm sad that we haven't spoken about it like this before this. 279 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:40,470 Lauren, can't even bring it up without you telling me to get an EM. 280 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:46,900 You're my best friend. I'm just scared of what I have on the line. 281 00:17:55,410 --> 00:17:56,910 Smile for the camera. 282 00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:05,580 I met Nippy in, what was that, 2006? 283 00:18:06,500 --> 00:18:08,170 I was like, "Who is this guy?" 284 00:18:08,250 --> 00:18:11,550 I mean, he was super cute, but I was like, "What's his deal". 285 00:18:11,630 --> 00:18:14,720 I originally got involved in the course about eight years ago, nine years ago. 286 00:18:14,800 --> 00:18:17,050 I was having a hard time in auditions. 287 00:18:17,140 --> 00:18:18,390 Action. 288 00:18:19,260 --> 00:18:21,180 Who you supposed to be? 289 00:18:25,230 --> 00:18:28,190 A friend of mine said he would help me with whatever was going on. 290 00:18:28,270 --> 00:18:32,190 I came and took it and I was fluent in two emotions, anger and sarcasm, 291 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:34,650 which is why I was having those problems. 292 00:18:35,780 --> 00:18:39,200 And both of us drove each other crazy, respectively. 293 00:18:39,990 --> 00:18:41,330 And rolling. 294 00:18:43,540 --> 00:18:45,540 And then we went to V-Week together. 295 00:18:50,210 --> 00:18:54,550 V-Week is like the best adult summer camp you've ever experienced. 296 00:18:57,050 --> 00:18:59,550 V-Week is the trailer of Vanguard's dream. 297 00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:04,020 It was at the YMCA resort in Adirondacks. 298 00:19:04,890 --> 00:19:07,810 You just descend upon the whole camp and take over. 299 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:11,310 You spent the whole week together, 300 00:19:12,360 --> 00:19:15,230 dancing together, or singing. 301 00:19:16,530 --> 00:19:19,740 We're talking about these deep concepts and philosophy. 302 00:19:19,820 --> 00:19:21,120 You say it better than I do, of course. 303 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:25,040 With civilization, people working together based on principle 304 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:27,870 to improve the nature of existence itself. 305 00:19:28,370 --> 00:19:31,130 You know, support the mission, build community. 306 00:19:31,250 --> 00:19:32,960 This was a mistake! 307 00:19:33,290 --> 00:19:36,130 Celebrate Keith, celebrate his birthday. 308 00:19:37,340 --> 00:19:40,470 All of it is in tribute to Vanguard 309 00:19:40,550 --> 00:19:43,050 to offer you for your birthday. 310 00:19:43,350 --> 00:19:45,100 So happy birthday. 311 00:19:47,980 --> 00:19:51,940 One time everyone else was hunkering down to practice their EMs. 312 00:19:52,020 --> 00:19:53,690 I kinda escaped to the beach 313 00:19:53,820 --> 00:19:57,650 and Nippy and I we're trying to reenact that scene from Dirty Dancing 314 00:19:57,780 --> 00:20:00,610 where she jumps, and he catches her like this. 315 00:20:00,700 --> 00:20:03,570 We were doing that over and over again in the water. 316 00:20:03,660 --> 00:20:06,870 That's when the history began, when the magic started. 317 00:20:08,120 --> 00:20:10,000 Oh my God. 318 00:20:14,790 --> 00:20:18,510 Nancy was there and Lauren was my maid of honor and my officiant. 319 00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:23,300 Probably half of the people were from ESP. 320 00:20:23,430 --> 00:20:26,350 Together, you represent a special and integral balance 321 00:20:26,430 --> 00:20:29,230 of ethics and humanity, empathy and discipline, 322 00:20:29,350 --> 00:20:31,060 character and compassion. 323 00:20:31,690 --> 00:20:34,980 Mark and Bonnie had gotten married a couple of years prior 324 00:20:35,060 --> 00:20:38,990 and Keith wrote their vows and I got permission we could use them for ours. 325 00:20:39,070 --> 00:20:42,410 I vow that there will be no trial of life, pretest of circumstance, 326 00:20:42,490 --> 00:20:44,410 through which I will surrender this love 327 00:20:44,490 --> 00:20:46,370 to the convenience of anger or fear. 328 00:20:46,450 --> 00:20:48,620 This I promise you to my last breath. 329 00:20:50,120 --> 00:20:52,670 I choose you, Nippy, to be my husband. 330 00:21:04,340 --> 00:21:06,260 We had Allison Mack singing. 331 00:21:10,930 --> 00:21:12,770 I felt like I was finding it all. 332 00:21:12,890 --> 00:21:15,100 Meaning, family. 333 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:21,280 Belonging, community. 334 00:21:21,820 --> 00:21:25,200 I remember saying to them, "I want to bring this to Vancouver." 335 00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:27,700 And I even told Nancy that when I met her 336 00:21:27,780 --> 00:21:31,080 and she was like, "A lot of people say that, so we'll see." 337 00:21:31,830 --> 00:21:35,210 She dared me. I took the dare. Double dog dare. 338 00:21:36,330 --> 00:21:38,170 - Ready, ready? - Oh my God! Yeah. 339 00:21:38,250 --> 00:21:39,460 Here we go! 340 00:21:44,470 --> 00:21:47,010 And then we opened an actual center 341 00:21:47,140 --> 00:21:50,720 and that was a very self-defining and beautiful moment 342 00:21:50,810 --> 00:21:53,560 because there was a group of us from Vancouver 343 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:57,480 that were like, very dedicated young ESPians, 344 00:21:57,560 --> 00:22:01,030 a lot of the young people who were in film and television industry, 345 00:22:01,110 --> 00:22:02,400 a lot of actors. 346 00:22:02,780 --> 00:22:04,490 Oh shit, it's video. 347 00:22:05,110 --> 00:22:06,740 Hi, Nicki. 348 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:09,530 Cut and action. Start again. 349 00:22:09,700 --> 00:22:15,000 I feel like the biggest limitation is that we judge ourselves. 350 00:22:15,870 --> 00:22:19,380 We're all in the same boat, struggling with our self-esteem 351 00:22:19,460 --> 00:22:22,000 and body issues and meaning and purpose. 352 00:22:22,250 --> 00:22:25,010 I'm Kristin as you know, I'm excited to work with you guys 353 00:22:25,130 --> 00:22:27,550 and I don't know what else to say. 354 00:22:28,140 --> 00:22:29,680 Say hi to Sarah. 355 00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:31,760 Hi, Sarah. 356 00:22:31,850 --> 00:22:37,230 How are we contributing, as a society, to the myth of celebrity? 357 00:22:37,310 --> 00:22:40,940 Because a lot of things, people seem to be rather caught up in it. 358 00:22:43,900 --> 00:22:45,780 Allie Mack. 359 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:50,700 When we first started, she was living the life in Vancouver. 360 00:22:50,780 --> 00:22:52,660 She was VIP as they called her. 361 00:22:52,740 --> 00:22:54,040 Come on up. 362 00:22:54,330 --> 00:22:57,960 I'm Allison, like I said earlier and I'm in film and an actress. 363 00:22:58,040 --> 00:22:59,830 It wasn't until I came to this organization 364 00:22:59,920 --> 00:23:03,920 that I started to discover that I was so much more than just an actress. 365 00:23:06,260 --> 00:23:07,840 Before we had the center, 366 00:23:07,930 --> 00:23:09,720 we were all going to Tacoma every weekend 367 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:12,100 and flying to Albany and it's quite far. 368 00:23:12,510 --> 00:23:14,220 How it feels having a center? 369 00:23:14,310 --> 00:23:18,600 I think the most extraordinary thing is people feel they have a home now. 370 00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:21,060 We were like nomads. 371 00:23:22,060 --> 00:23:26,150 We have worked really hard for this moment, for this day 372 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:28,740 and I don't think that... 373 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:32,740 I don't think that I would be who I am without Mark in my life. 374 00:23:32,830 --> 00:23:34,160 I know that for sure. 375 00:23:37,910 --> 00:23:40,960 I'd like to say something about Proctor Edmondson. 376 00:23:41,330 --> 00:23:45,840 Sarah is such a shining example of somebody 377 00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:49,010 who has a vision in her mind 378 00:23:49,090 --> 00:23:52,260 and will pursue it, relentlessly, relentlessly. 379 00:23:53,100 --> 00:23:56,140 I can tell you that I would want to be in the trenches with her 380 00:23:56,220 --> 00:23:58,020 in every single endeavor. 381 00:23:58,310 --> 00:24:00,690 So... I'm getting pretty choked up. 382 00:24:05,110 --> 00:24:07,230 Extraordinary, extraordinary human being 383 00:24:07,360 --> 00:24:09,530 and somebody who I respect deeply. 384 00:24:09,610 --> 00:24:11,070 Thank you. 385 00:24:21,750 --> 00:24:23,170 This is it! 386 00:24:23,710 --> 00:24:26,000 Here's Sarah. One of our center owners. 387 00:24:26,090 --> 00:24:28,590 - How's it feel? - I am so excited. 388 00:24:28,710 --> 00:24:30,170 Vancouver! 389 00:24:32,010 --> 00:24:36,470 There's people signing applications in my office, it's a dream come true. 390 00:24:37,180 --> 00:24:41,140 - How many did you enroll? - Directly and indirectly, over 2000. 391 00:24:43,190 --> 00:24:45,360 People made jokes and they'd be like, 392 00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:48,730 "Oh, you could do your cult thing. Or how's your cult?" 393 00:24:48,820 --> 00:24:50,440 One more time? Okay, ready go. 394 00:24:50,530 --> 00:24:52,360 I would joke, "Well, if this a cult, 395 00:24:52,450 --> 00:24:56,030 as in a group of people that have a similar mindset or beliefs, 396 00:24:56,120 --> 00:24:58,410 it's a cult of happy, successful people. 397 00:24:58,540 --> 00:25:01,410 So, what's the problem?" 398 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:13,180 Like egg yolks. 399 00:25:25,060 --> 00:25:27,940 His tail is over here. 400 00:25:28,270 --> 00:25:29,400 Is that his tail? 401 00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:33,450 Lauren, I made her godmother because she didn't have kids of her own 402 00:25:33,610 --> 00:25:36,490 and we wanted Troy to grow up in the ESP community. 403 00:25:36,780 --> 00:25:38,030 Can you see him? 404 00:25:38,950 --> 00:25:40,660 We helped each other and... 405 00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:44,710 That's so sweet. Oh look, he's running away. 406 00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:47,290 And I felt like I could tell her anything. 407 00:25:47,580 --> 00:25:49,380 All right, we're going to go. 408 00:25:51,300 --> 00:25:53,510 How am I going to do this in terms of Nippy? 409 00:25:53,630 --> 00:25:56,510 And like what if he wants me to get it removed? Can I get it removed? 410 00:25:56,590 --> 00:25:59,890 It's a scar so I don't know. I mean, we can heal it, it fades. 411 00:26:02,470 --> 00:26:06,560 But also, Sarah, like I don't think that it was bad for you 412 00:26:06,650 --> 00:26:09,440 to decide to do this and bad for you to have something of your own 413 00:26:09,570 --> 00:26:12,780 or against Nippy in any way. It's not about him. 414 00:26:13,740 --> 00:26:16,030 It was for you with your girlfriends. 415 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:21,790 A lot of your self-esteem was and has been wrapped up with him. 416 00:26:24,540 --> 00:26:27,670 Why don't you go take Troy and do what you need to do. But I'm here. 417 00:26:27,750 --> 00:26:31,000 Anything I can do to support you and feel not fearful. 418 00:26:38,140 --> 00:26:41,100 They gave me my green sash just after I'd given birth to Troy. 419 00:26:41,180 --> 00:26:42,680 Troy was three months old. 420 00:26:43,140 --> 00:26:45,230 You're supposed to get promoted every six months, 421 00:26:45,350 --> 00:26:48,520 but for two and a half years, I didn't get another stripe. 422 00:26:49,190 --> 00:26:52,820 And we were getting pressure from all sides to move to Albany. 423 00:26:53,110 --> 00:26:57,570 I mean, we have the best culture here. We're the most advanced society here. 424 00:26:57,650 --> 00:27:00,490 This is like the Rome of the modern world, Albany. 425 00:27:00,870 --> 00:27:02,740 Clifton Park, in particular. 426 00:27:03,370 --> 00:27:05,200 I never wanted to move there. 427 00:27:05,370 --> 00:27:08,000 But at the same time, I didn't want to stagnate. 428 00:27:10,670 --> 00:27:13,800 And Nippy had never really settled into Vancouver 429 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:16,300 and he wasn't particularly happy there. 430 00:27:18,470 --> 00:27:24,010 He would say, "Well, I'm head of SOP. Keith wants me there." 431 00:27:25,890 --> 00:27:29,810 SOP is the Society of Protectors, which was a workshop for the men. 432 00:27:31,270 --> 00:27:34,610 About commitment and honor, and how to be a leader. 433 00:27:37,820 --> 00:27:41,950 Masculinity is a tool. This is not to say all masculinity is great. 434 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:45,370 We abuse our power. We trample on women. 435 00:27:45,790 --> 00:27:49,210 We even trample on each other. We need a group. 436 00:27:49,330 --> 00:27:52,580 We need hundreds of thousands, millions of men 437 00:27:52,710 --> 00:27:56,550 as a voice of honor so that we can do more in the world. 438 00:27:56,710 --> 00:27:59,800 So, we don't have a President of the United States presidential election, 439 00:27:59,880 --> 00:28:01,430 like the last one. 440 00:28:02,140 --> 00:28:04,510 So, we don't have media like we have. 441 00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:08,310 So, we don't have politicians and things like that like we have. 442 00:28:08,390 --> 00:28:11,770 Are those people bad? No, but they've been trained badly. 443 00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:16,360 With Nippy, SOP spoke to his values, very specifically. 444 00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:19,240 The principles that we're upholding over, 445 00:28:19,360 --> 00:28:21,820 I mean, where else in the world is this going on? 446 00:28:21,950 --> 00:28:23,490 You're joining my team. 447 00:28:23,910 --> 00:28:26,740 COUPLES THERAPY WITH NANCY 448 00:28:27,790 --> 00:28:31,830 I recognize I'm not getting what I want. I cut to anger pretty quickly. 449 00:28:32,210 --> 00:28:35,340 - So, you're an alpha? - Yeah. This is... 450 00:28:35,460 --> 00:28:37,000 "I have to be in charge." 451 00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:40,630 - We're two alphas. Don't you think? - Yeah. 452 00:28:41,630 --> 00:28:45,760 And I don't feel like we're working towards the same thing. 453 00:28:45,850 --> 00:28:47,970 Like, I think we have the same values. 454 00:28:48,060 --> 00:28:51,100 But, like I think partly because of this whole like Vancouver, 455 00:28:51,180 --> 00:28:54,900 New York, where to live thing, it's like there's always a power struggle. 456 00:28:54,980 --> 00:28:56,770 Like, even planning the day. 457 00:28:56,860 --> 00:28:59,940 Maybe one of things that you don't like about Vancouver 458 00:29:00,030 --> 00:29:02,700 on an unconscious level it's her thing. 459 00:29:05,910 --> 00:29:09,370 In a certain way in Vancouver, you're not the guy, she is. 460 00:29:12,210 --> 00:29:14,580 But I want you to be the guy. 461 00:29:14,830 --> 00:29:17,290 I don't think it's necessarily because it's her thing. 462 00:29:17,380 --> 00:29:20,590 I feel like I don't know people. I don't feel resourceful there. 463 00:29:21,050 --> 00:29:22,800 Honestly, so much of the time, 464 00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:25,260 I feel like I'm just, like, in the way of you, 465 00:29:25,390 --> 00:29:28,760 and I'm trying to feel good with you, and then I feel needy. 466 00:29:39,820 --> 00:29:41,610 And... 467 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:44,910 Then DOS came around. 468 00:29:48,330 --> 00:29:50,910 DOMINUS OBSEQUIOUS SORORIUM 469 00:29:51,950 --> 00:29:54,250 DOMINANT OVER SUBMISSIVE 470 00:29:54,370 --> 00:29:56,830 Lauren came to Vancouver to do a five day. 471 00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:59,540 She said, "I want to tell you about something." 472 00:29:59,670 --> 00:30:03,050 She said it was incredibly cool. It was incredibly helpful in her life. 473 00:30:03,130 --> 00:30:05,760 "This is going to help you in your relationship. 474 00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:08,300 This is why you're stuck in the stripe path. 475 00:30:09,470 --> 00:30:13,140 This is exactly what you need. This is what you need to be strong." 476 00:30:14,310 --> 00:30:17,980 She couldn't tell me anything else until I gave her collateral. 477 00:30:19,650 --> 00:30:23,440 And she's like, "It should be something you feel nauseated about." 478 00:30:23,780 --> 00:30:25,240 I'm like, "Like what?" 479 00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:28,200 She's like, "Oh, I don't know, like a confession about something bad you did 480 00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:30,160 something that I'll hold forever to make sure 481 00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:33,540 that you never break your vow of secrecy." 482 00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:36,410 And I felt weird about it. 483 00:30:36,500 --> 00:30:38,710 But Lauren, as the head of education, 484 00:30:38,790 --> 00:30:42,500 Nancy's daughter, my best friend, all these things in my life, 485 00:30:42,590 --> 00:30:44,840 she's telling me that there's something 486 00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:47,090 that's helped her more than anything else. 487 00:30:47,220 --> 00:30:48,930 I'm definitely intrigued. 488 00:30:49,430 --> 00:30:53,810 And "collateral" was a term that was used. It's part of the vernacular. 489 00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:56,730 COLLATERAL 490 00:30:56,940 --> 00:30:59,400 Commitment has to be collateralized. 491 00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:02,980 I don't say, "Oh, yeah, you know I give you my word on that." 492 00:31:03,110 --> 00:31:08,410 No, if I give you my word, it's collateralized by my whole self-image. 493 00:31:08,570 --> 00:31:12,660 The more you collateralize your word, the stronger your word becomes. 494 00:31:12,740 --> 00:31:16,160 Your word is your bond. No excuses. 495 00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:21,250 I'm like, "I don't have secrets. I don't have like a dark sorted past." 496 00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:23,710 She goes, "Just make it up." 497 00:31:26,010 --> 00:31:27,260 She videotaped me. 498 00:31:27,340 --> 00:31:30,680 I knew I was being filmed, but we were pretending that I didn't know that. 499 00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:34,220 I shit talked my husband, my mom, my dad and my brother 500 00:31:34,350 --> 00:31:38,600 saying things like, "He's a terrible husband. He beats our son." 501 00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:42,060 Awful things that have no bases in reality. 502 00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:53,660 She gets real excited. 503 00:31:55,910 --> 00:31:58,790 It became more of a sorority recently, I think. 504 00:31:58,910 --> 00:32:01,620 And, that was kind of when I got involved in it. 505 00:32:02,580 --> 00:32:05,710 You know how Freemasons are out there changing the world, 506 00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:08,260 you don't know who they are, they're this force for good in the world? 507 00:32:08,340 --> 00:32:10,380 It's the same thing, but for women. 508 00:32:11,550 --> 00:32:13,430 It's like a similar to SOP. 509 00:32:13,890 --> 00:32:15,760 Something happens bad to you. 510 00:32:15,850 --> 00:32:17,850 Don't you want a bunch of tough people 511 00:32:17,930 --> 00:32:21,390 who could take on the burden, carry the log, do it with you? 512 00:32:21,850 --> 00:32:28,230 Every time we prove ourselves against comfort, we're just, we're tougher. 513 00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:31,820 And I was like, that sounds pretty cool. 514 00:32:32,700 --> 00:32:36,160 And she said the vow of obedience in a lifetime commitment. 515 00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:40,120 And what made sense to me already 516 00:32:40,250 --> 00:32:42,960 is that Lauren and I have already talked about 517 00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:46,090 being old age boobies in matching velour tracksuits, 518 00:32:46,170 --> 00:32:49,130 going for walks on the seawall in Florida or whatever. 519 00:32:49,260 --> 00:32:52,300 And teaching trainings, like we're doing this for the rest of our lives. 520 00:32:52,380 --> 00:32:55,800 So, it's like a heightened level of a coaching relationship, 521 00:32:55,890 --> 00:32:58,850 which makes sense that she goes into... 522 00:32:58,930 --> 00:33:00,770 And we call it master slave. 523 00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:05,770 So, what I knew, about this point is that Lauren had sisters. 524 00:33:05,860 --> 00:33:09,690 She was part of a pod. I knew there were other sisters under Lauren. 525 00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:16,070 She said, "One day you'll have slaves and you'll have six slaves. 526 00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:19,490 And then you'll be a Grandmaster." And I'm like... 527 00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:23,120 Now keep in mind, every step along the way is totally weird. 528 00:33:23,210 --> 00:33:24,920 Just like sashes are weird, 529 00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:28,800 but then Lauren explains it and it's like, a little less weird. 530 00:33:29,210 --> 00:33:31,340 As you start to explore those things 531 00:33:31,420 --> 00:33:33,880 it is a deeper experience of existence 532 00:33:33,970 --> 00:33:38,180 because it's a whole understanding of your life and your values 533 00:33:38,300 --> 00:33:40,310 and how you want to do a world. 534 00:33:40,930 --> 00:33:44,020 It's more of a metaphor. It's an exercise. 535 00:33:44,980 --> 00:33:47,730 I said, "Okay, this is bizarre, but I'm in." 536 00:33:48,980 --> 00:33:50,860 She said, "If you're in, you need to give 537 00:33:50,940 --> 00:33:54,990 more collateral to solidify your agreement." 538 00:33:55,450 --> 00:33:59,870 She's like, "Yeah, let's just do a nude photo just for me to have. 539 00:33:59,950 --> 00:34:01,450 So, I know you're in." 540 00:34:03,660 --> 00:34:07,460 So, she has the photo, she sends it off and I'm in. 541 00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:12,590 From that point forward Lauren was my master. 542 00:34:12,670 --> 00:34:14,760 I had to be accountable to her all the time. 543 00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:16,840 GOOD MORNING MASTER! 544 00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:19,300 MASTER - MAY I GO TO SLEEP? 545 00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:22,180 GOOD NIGHT MASTER! 546 00:34:22,270 --> 00:34:24,430 I had daily contact with her a few times a day. 547 00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:27,900 Before this, months would go by when I hadn't heard from her. 548 00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:31,150 It felt... 549 00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:35,030 I felt special to be coached and mentored closely by her. 550 00:34:36,150 --> 00:34:38,570 It's like, well, it's Lauren and I love her, 551 00:34:38,660 --> 00:34:40,530 and I get to spend time with her. 552 00:34:41,620 --> 00:34:42,910 I knew I was part of the pod, 553 00:34:42,990 --> 00:34:44,950 but I didn't know who they were yet because I hadn't met them. 554 00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:46,080 LOVES OF MY LIFE. 555 00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:47,710 I AM SO EXCITED WE WILL ALL BE TOGETHER NEXT WEEK! 556 00:34:47,790 --> 00:34:49,750 I had basically was in for six weeks 557 00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:53,760 when Lauren asked me to go to Albany for an initiation ceremony. 558 00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:57,300 I got on the phone with her and I asked how she was doing. 559 00:34:57,430 --> 00:34:59,470 She's like, "I'm great. I've lost a lot of weight 560 00:34:59,550 --> 00:35:03,470 since you were here last thanks to DOS. And I'm down at my goal weight." 561 00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:07,190 And I said, "What is your goal weight?" And it was like 103 or 104. 562 00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:10,310 Lauren lost 20 pounds in six weeks. 563 00:35:13,730 --> 00:35:18,070 So, we get there and as a part of the initiation ceremony, 564 00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:20,240 we get a tattoo that like all the sisters have 565 00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:23,240 and we'll all know that we have it and it's really cool. 566 00:35:23,450 --> 00:35:25,580 The idea of it is, it's seven lines 567 00:35:25,660 --> 00:35:28,120 and it's also based in the four elements. 568 00:35:28,460 --> 00:35:30,830 The straight line at the top is the sky. 569 00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:33,670 And then there's a mountain, which is the earth. 570 00:35:33,750 --> 00:35:36,050 And then the squiggle line is a river. 571 00:35:39,090 --> 00:35:41,300 And that night, Nippy drops me off. 572 00:35:42,180 --> 00:35:44,140 I told him I had a meeting with Lauren. 573 00:35:44,260 --> 00:35:47,270 Everybody has secrets though, from each other. 574 00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:52,770 Lauren was like, "Oh my God, I'm so excited. This is actually happening." 575 00:35:54,070 --> 00:35:55,610 And she brings me upstairs. We hug. 576 00:35:55,690 --> 00:35:59,360 She brings me to her guestroom and says, "Take off your clothes. 577 00:35:59,450 --> 00:36:01,360 And I'll be back in a little bit." 578 00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:05,580 When she came back, gave me a blindfold. 579 00:36:07,290 --> 00:36:10,290 I could feel like there were other people around me. 580 00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:14,210 And then she said, "Okay sisters, take off your blindfolds." 581 00:36:14,290 --> 00:36:17,210 And we took our blindfolds off and I saw who I was sitting with. 582 00:36:17,300 --> 00:36:20,550 Now, I'm sitting buck naked, cross-legged on a sheepskin rug 583 00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:22,640 with four other women who I know. 584 00:36:22,720 --> 00:36:24,850 And some of them I've known for years. 585 00:36:25,100 --> 00:36:26,970 And we're all like, "Oh my God, this is so weird." 586 00:36:27,100 --> 00:36:30,100 She's like, "Guys, it's your bodies. You have to get over your issues." 587 00:36:30,230 --> 00:36:31,940 So, we're like... You know. 588 00:36:34,270 --> 00:36:36,860 We piled into her car, put blindfolds on again. 589 00:36:36,940 --> 00:36:39,150 Drove somewhere. It was supposed to be top secret. 590 00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:41,950 But I cheated and looked out of the bottom of my bandana 591 00:36:42,030 --> 00:36:44,490 and saw that we were at Allison Mac's house. 592 00:36:47,830 --> 00:36:49,700 So now I know Allie's involved. 593 00:36:50,250 --> 00:36:53,960 And at that point, for the first time, Lauren showed us her brand. 594 00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:56,590 It's not a tattoo. 595 00:36:57,550 --> 00:36:59,630 And I just was really freaked out. 596 00:37:01,510 --> 00:37:04,680 It's a fucking medical procedure without anesthetic. 597 00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:08,600 And the first person laid down on the table 598 00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:12,600 and they started to draw a line in her flesh with a cauterizing iron 599 00:37:12,730 --> 00:37:15,690 and her flesh started to burn and smoke and sizzle. 600 00:37:16,190 --> 00:37:17,820 We had to hold her down. 601 00:37:18,610 --> 00:37:22,070 We were crying. We were shaking. We were holding each other. 602 00:37:22,530 --> 00:37:25,990 One of my other sisters and I were looking at each other like, 603 00:37:26,950 --> 00:37:29,160 "What the fuck? Like where the fuck are we? 604 00:37:29,240 --> 00:37:30,790 How do we get here?" 605 00:37:32,830 --> 00:37:34,460 I don't want to do this. 606 00:37:34,790 --> 00:37:38,250 I was just thinking, how the fuck am I going to get out? 607 00:37:38,380 --> 00:37:40,550 I was even thinking about texting Nippy and saying like, 608 00:37:40,670 --> 00:37:44,970 "Hey, I think I'm at Allison Mack's house. I'm naked. Help me." 609 00:37:46,590 --> 00:37:48,260 Each person took 30 minutes. 610 00:37:48,350 --> 00:37:50,770 So, I had two hours of watching other people get branded 611 00:37:50,850 --> 00:37:53,100 and they weren't doing well. They were squirming. 612 00:37:53,180 --> 00:37:55,940 They were crying. They were twitching. They were sweating. 613 00:37:56,060 --> 00:37:58,310 And at one-point Lauren pulled me inside and she's like, 614 00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:01,400 "You're green. You need to show them how to do this." 615 00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:06,860 Everything in my body was going, "Don't do this. Don't do this. 616 00:38:06,990 --> 00:38:09,200 Get the fuck out. This is not a good thing to do." 617 00:38:09,330 --> 00:38:11,040 The other part of me is going, 618 00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:13,580 "I'm a fucking pussy. I got to be strong." 619 00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:16,750 I'm feeling the most fear I've ever felt in my life. 620 00:38:16,830 --> 00:38:18,330 I sat down before my turn. 621 00:38:18,420 --> 00:38:21,210 I'm like, "Lauren, I don't want this thing on my body." 622 00:38:21,300 --> 00:38:23,460 "But what's the worst part? What does it mean?" 623 00:38:23,550 --> 00:38:25,170 What does it mean? To be afraid? 624 00:38:25,260 --> 00:38:28,300 And she would literally EMing just before I got branded. 625 00:38:28,390 --> 00:38:30,680 What's the worst thing that can happen? 626 00:38:31,100 --> 00:38:33,270 I disassociated out of my body. 627 00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:39,150 And I lay on the table and I just like, triggered a state of love. 628 00:38:39,770 --> 00:38:42,610 And I just thought about my son. 629 00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:47,200 I thought about the moment when I was actually giving birth to him, 630 00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:51,120 all the other women were like, "Oh my God, Sarah didn't even move." 631 00:38:51,490 --> 00:38:55,290 Then I opened my eyes and there's Lauren staring at me lovingly. 632 00:38:56,410 --> 00:39:00,210 That brand was a really powerful moment. You saw with me and you. 633 00:39:00,420 --> 00:39:02,750 - Yeah. Yeah. - It was really beautiful. I cried. 634 00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:04,920 - I thought it was so beautiful. - So beautiful, Lauren. 635 00:39:05,010 --> 00:39:08,720 - And I had that same experience of it. - It really was. It really, really was. 636 00:39:11,390 --> 00:39:16,930 I came out of that being like, "Holy fuck, I did it. I can do anything." 637 00:39:21,150 --> 00:39:22,900 My dad has a joke. 638 00:39:23,020 --> 00:39:26,030 There's this old saying that goes, "The squeaky wheel gets the grease." 639 00:39:26,150 --> 00:39:29,490 Whatever it is. My dad goes, "Yeah, it also gets replaced." 640 00:39:31,410 --> 00:39:33,740 So, we didn't squeak a lot in my house. 641 00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:38,790 I was dying to tell him. 642 00:39:38,870 --> 00:39:42,960 And I remember just like I said, "Had a great meeting," or something. 643 00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:45,300 He was like, "Oh yeah." He wasn't engaged. 644 00:39:45,380 --> 00:39:47,550 And I wanted to tell him like, "I'm so strong. 645 00:39:47,630 --> 00:39:50,510 Like you'd never be able to do what I just did." 646 00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:57,640 GOOD MORNING MASTER! DID YOU GET SOME REST? 647 00:39:59,020 --> 00:40:03,020 Lauren told me to start making lists of people I wanted to do this with. 648 00:40:03,190 --> 00:40:05,820 At this point I already had one slave 649 00:40:05,900 --> 00:40:08,900 and I'm like saying to Lauren, "What do I do with her?" 650 00:40:08,990 --> 00:40:11,820 And I found out, like her other slaves were doing errands for her 651 00:40:11,910 --> 00:40:13,780 and helping her around the house 652 00:40:13,870 --> 00:40:16,660 and like, whatever needed to be done, foot rubs. 653 00:40:16,740 --> 00:40:18,950 AND DON'T FORGET MONTHLY COLLATERAL IS DUE THURSDAY! 654 00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:21,920 And then at some point she said, "Yeah, we need new collaterals." 655 00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:23,500 I was like, "What?" 656 00:40:23,580 --> 00:40:26,670 "We need new collateral every month to strengthen your word every month." 657 00:40:26,750 --> 00:40:28,340 She's like, "You know with the deed to your home." 658 00:40:28,420 --> 00:40:30,090 I'm like, "What do you mean the deed to your home?" 659 00:40:30,170 --> 00:40:31,550 That's not how it works. 660 00:40:31,630 --> 00:40:36,680 You take the paperwork and you go to a lawyer and get it notarized. 661 00:40:36,930 --> 00:40:39,270 LIKE WHAT IF THIS INFO GOT INTO THE WRONG HANDS. 662 00:40:39,350 --> 00:40:42,480 I had a lot of questions like who holds my collateral? 663 00:40:42,980 --> 00:40:47,110 Everything was, "You don't need to know. That's your control issues." 664 00:40:47,980 --> 00:40:49,650 It's not what I signed up for. 665 00:40:49,740 --> 00:40:52,450 The whole, not what I signed up for doesn't hold weight though, 666 00:40:52,530 --> 00:40:53,910 because I am at cause. 667 00:40:53,990 --> 00:40:57,370 I chose everything that happened in this situation with DOS. 668 00:40:57,450 --> 00:41:01,620 I chose to be involved. I chose to be committed. 669 00:41:01,790 --> 00:41:04,290 I chose to make a vow of obedience to her. 670 00:41:04,630 --> 00:41:06,840 So now I've got to do whatever she asks. 671 00:41:10,260 --> 00:41:12,510 Lauren started sending me screenshots of women 672 00:41:12,590 --> 00:41:15,890 in my organization in Vancouver through Facebook, like, 673 00:41:15,970 --> 00:41:18,060 "What about this girl? What about this girl?" 674 00:41:18,140 --> 00:41:20,890 All beautiful, skinny girls. 675 00:41:22,100 --> 00:41:26,310 It became enroll, enroll, enroll, recruit, recruit, recruit. 676 00:41:26,940 --> 00:41:29,230 Slaves to get slaves, to get slaves. 677 00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:33,530 Check in every day with who's on your list? 678 00:41:33,650 --> 00:41:36,910 Have they given collateral for first? Have they given collateral for second? 679 00:41:36,990 --> 00:41:39,160 YOU WILL GET A JOYFUL PHOTO TOMORROW! 680 00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:42,500 Most of the other masters when recruiting, we're just like, 681 00:41:42,620 --> 00:41:45,750 "Let's just go to the bathroom. I'll take a photo of your tits." 682 00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:51,000 There were so many things that were not okay 683 00:41:51,090 --> 00:41:53,130 in a very short period of time. 684 00:41:54,630 --> 00:41:56,550 So, I'm putting things together. 685 00:41:57,090 --> 00:42:01,100 I can speculate I think it's Alli's the Master of one group for sure. 686 00:42:02,060 --> 00:42:06,400 Right now, my belief is that Alli could be the top. 687 00:42:20,370 --> 00:42:22,830 The symbol was not a symbol for the elements, 688 00:42:22,950 --> 00:42:25,040 or whatever bullshit they told us. 689 00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:29,960 I just looked in the mirror and saw it. You know, when a picture pops up 690 00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:32,420 and one of those paintings with the thing emerges, 691 00:42:32,500 --> 00:42:35,630 you're like, "Oh, that's what it is." It's a turtle or whatever. 692 00:42:35,720 --> 00:42:38,550 It was like, AM. Oh my God. 693 00:42:43,180 --> 00:42:46,100 And I think it's a brand of Allison Mack's initials 694 00:42:46,230 --> 00:42:48,900 and I knew that I was in her home when I got branded. 695 00:42:49,020 --> 00:42:52,110 So, it seems like Allie Mack is the top of this thing. 696 00:42:52,940 --> 00:42:54,940 And I showed my slave 697 00:42:55,030 --> 00:42:58,280 and I said, "Do you wanna see what you're supposed to get?" 698 00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:00,370 and she was like, "Look!" 699 00:43:01,950 --> 00:43:04,330 And when you turn your head to the sides 700 00:43:04,410 --> 00:43:07,660 it's a brand of Keith's initials and Allison Mack's. 701 00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:12,130 And I was like, "What the fuck?" 702 00:43:14,340 --> 00:43:15,880 I didn't make the brand. 703 00:43:16,010 --> 00:43:18,340 Okay. Yeah. I know you didn't make the brand, Lauren. 704 00:43:18,430 --> 00:43:21,220 But now I just looked at it from the side and its KR. 705 00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:24,430 I have Keith's initials beside my vagina. 706 00:43:25,060 --> 00:43:28,100 Do you think Nippy's ever going to want to go down there again? 707 00:43:28,230 --> 00:43:33,480 Is Keith behind DOS? Is Keith the one who organized this? 708 00:43:36,570 --> 00:43:38,990 It's not something that we discuss, Sarah. 709 00:43:39,070 --> 00:43:41,030 - Yeah, but Lauren, Lauren. - It's irrelevant. 710 00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:43,160 DOS started by a bunch of women 711 00:43:43,240 --> 00:43:46,660 and they got permission from Keith to use some of the tools. 712 00:43:46,790 --> 00:43:49,960 He gave them permission to use collateral and penance. 713 00:43:50,370 --> 00:43:52,960 Okay. But he didn't know about the branding? 714 00:43:54,250 --> 00:43:56,550 He knew about it, but he didn't cause it. 715 00:43:57,340 --> 00:44:00,090 And he didn't create the brand. The girls did. 716 00:44:00,340 --> 00:44:02,550 Who's got my photos? For real? 717 00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:05,220 I promise you I am the only one who has them. 718 00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:10,520 Because when I took pictures of my S's, I sent them to you. 719 00:44:11,190 --> 00:44:13,730 - Where are those? - I didn't... I have them. 720 00:44:14,650 --> 00:44:18,320 Lauren, can you please promise me to go in and delete them right now? 721 00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:22,160 - Yeah. - And my confessions and my family? 722 00:44:22,990 --> 00:44:24,950 Yes. I'll get rid of everything. 723 00:44:25,030 --> 00:44:27,370 Like, I'm getting freaked out about where this is going 724 00:44:27,450 --> 00:44:30,370 and who's involved and I don't have a problem if Keith wants to have sex, 725 00:44:30,460 --> 00:44:33,330 but if sex with him is part of this... 726 00:44:34,670 --> 00:44:36,460 I don't know who's sleeping with Keith. 727 00:44:36,550 --> 00:44:38,840 You can ask them but it's not something I'm doing. 728 00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:41,550 And it's not a problem for me what he's doing. 729 00:44:42,430 --> 00:44:45,510 And you were never going to have to sleep with Keith. 730 00:44:58,070 --> 00:44:59,990 I wasn't brought in for Keith. 731 00:45:00,110 --> 00:45:04,240 What holds us back from being the most awesome you that you can be? 732 00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:06,870 - What do you think? - Fear? 733 00:45:06,950 --> 00:45:10,290 - Fear. Correct. Yeah. What else? - Bad habits. 734 00:45:10,580 --> 00:45:12,870 I was brought in as a recruitment tool. 735 00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:19,840 - I feel so fucking responsible. - I hear you. 736 00:45:21,090 --> 00:45:23,590 I feel responsible for Nicky and Alli. 737 00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:27,140 We brought the entertainment industry into this company 738 00:45:27,260 --> 00:45:30,390 that happened to be populated with very pretty girls. 739 00:45:31,100 --> 00:45:34,350 And why the fuck did Kristen Kreuk leave? The real reason? 740 00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:36,650 Is that why? Was she approached? 741 00:45:36,730 --> 00:45:41,530 I am almost 90% certain that something uncool happened. 742 00:45:41,940 --> 00:45:43,650 Are you fucking kidding me? 743 00:45:45,530 --> 00:45:49,990 There are so many women that have left that look the same. 744 00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:52,290 They're skinny. They're young. They're pretty. 745 00:45:52,370 --> 00:45:55,210 They will not say anything because they are so scared. 746 00:45:55,290 --> 00:45:59,090 Why? Because somebody very powerful hit on them. 747 00:45:59,880 --> 00:46:01,210 Fuck me. 748 00:46:03,170 --> 00:46:05,970 - Can you please tell Nippy? - Ok. 749 00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:10,560 I mean we're making decisions about our life and where to live. 750 00:46:16,810 --> 00:46:19,110 You know, I think the curriculum is second to none. 751 00:46:19,230 --> 00:46:20,730 I want my kid involved in that. 752 00:46:20,820 --> 00:46:23,570 I certainly don't want him to grow up in Vancouver. 753 00:46:23,650 --> 00:46:28,280 Nip, it's a very delicate situation. There are landmines ahead. 754 00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:41,090 When Mark told me, Sarah got branded 755 00:46:41,170 --> 00:46:43,000 and I was like, "What?" 756 00:46:43,300 --> 00:46:45,170 What is going on? At first, I was kind of like, 757 00:46:45,260 --> 00:46:49,220 "Sarah, what are you doing?" I didn't think Keith was part of it. 758 00:46:52,100 --> 00:46:55,890 Was Mark leaving a flare? Like, something had gone off? 759 00:46:57,940 --> 00:47:01,150 In my mind I was blaming Bonnie, 760 00:47:01,270 --> 00:47:04,650 but Bonnie had seen Keith for who he really is. 761 00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:09,780 And I've been out there peddling this fucking shit for however many years. 762 00:47:09,860 --> 00:47:12,080 So, in essence, what a lie does is this. 763 00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:14,490 You're consciously taking shackles, 764 00:47:14,620 --> 00:47:17,250 putting it on your filters of the world, 765 00:47:17,330 --> 00:47:21,250 and you're meant to run everything through that filter of the lie. 766 00:47:22,420 --> 00:47:24,300 How do you feel? 767 00:47:25,460 --> 00:47:27,260 Pissed and scared. 768 00:47:27,470 --> 00:47:29,430 Mostly scared. 769 00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:32,930 Because there's also the component of... 770 00:47:37,230 --> 00:47:41,900 If this isn't true what I was doing, how do I not... What's real? 771 00:47:47,030 --> 00:47:50,490 They think it's noble to not let the fear conduct 772 00:47:50,570 --> 00:47:52,120 and inform their decisions. 773 00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:54,740 I'm like, "Look, if a bus is coming, 774 00:47:54,830 --> 00:47:56,580 you need to get the fuck out of the way." 775 00:47:56,660 --> 00:48:00,080 Fear is not a bad thing. It's a warning sign. 776 00:48:07,380 --> 00:48:10,380 Lauren, I don't know what's going on but I'm hearing shit around branding. 777 00:48:10,470 --> 00:48:12,340 Sarah told me she got a brand. 778 00:48:12,430 --> 00:48:14,180 You might be participating in some criminal behavior. 779 00:48:14,260 --> 00:48:15,560 I'm not in a... Nippy. 780 00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:19,060 I'm hearing stuff around collateral which sounds a lot like blackmail. 781 00:48:19,180 --> 00:48:22,190 Nippy, I've known you 20 years. Why can't we have a conversation? 782 00:48:22,310 --> 00:48:24,230 Because I don't want to have a conversation about it. 783 00:48:24,310 --> 00:48:26,820 And I know you're going to go on some diatribe how that's my anger. 784 00:48:26,900 --> 00:48:27,940 I'm not. 785 00:48:28,030 --> 00:48:30,280 Ten years of my life I've gone and I've supported this organization. 786 00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:32,820 I've put my heart and fucking soul behind this stuff. 787 00:48:32,910 --> 00:48:35,990 The definition of personal growth isn't getting fucking branded 788 00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:38,790 with Keith's fucking initials in her crotch. 789 00:48:38,870 --> 00:48:41,290 What do you mean, yeah? It's disgusting, Lauren. 790 00:48:41,370 --> 00:48:42,870 You believe something is disgusting 791 00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:44,790 that you don't understand and are not wanting... 792 00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:47,130 - Nor do I care to understand it. - Why? What if you're wrong? 793 00:48:47,210 --> 00:48:49,090 - Because I don't want... - What if you're wrong? 794 00:48:49,170 --> 00:48:50,760 What if you're wrong? 795 00:48:51,550 --> 00:48:53,760 I have a three year old boy. I have a wife. 796 00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:56,010 I don't want them subjected to any of this crap. 797 00:48:56,100 --> 00:48:57,850 I'm sorry. That's my stance. 798 00:48:58,180 --> 00:48:59,770 I'm sorry that you feel this way. 799 00:48:59,850 --> 00:49:02,350 I'm sorry that you're branding my fucking wife. 800 00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:05,690 You're one of my best friends. I love you. 801 00:49:05,770 --> 00:49:07,610 If you can't see how this is bad, 802 00:49:07,690 --> 00:49:10,070 then I don't think we have anything else to talk about. 803 00:49:10,150 --> 00:49:13,070 I'm stepping down from SOP immediately. I'm out. 804 00:49:16,620 --> 00:49:19,870 Sarah, what does he know? I mean, what did you tell him? 805 00:49:19,990 --> 00:49:23,410 I just told them that I had it. He was going to see it eventually, right? 806 00:49:23,500 --> 00:49:26,960 Yeah. Then I would explain things to him. 807 00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:30,380 I mean, part of why we didn't tell the men what we were doing 808 00:49:30,460 --> 00:49:33,800 is because of what's going on right now. 809 00:49:33,970 --> 00:49:36,220 Which is, the main think the women are victims of it, 810 00:49:36,300 --> 00:49:39,720 they come into play hero, and make the women victims of it. 811 00:49:39,930 --> 00:49:42,640 And they're trying to shut the whole thing down. 812 00:49:44,980 --> 00:49:47,560 Right now, I just need to step back and take a breath 813 00:49:47,690 --> 00:49:49,730 and you know, fix my marriage. 814 00:49:50,530 --> 00:49:53,650 And I can't really deal with this other stuff. 815 00:49:55,410 --> 00:49:57,990 I think that if Nippy really understood this, 816 00:49:58,070 --> 00:49:59,950 he would want it to exist. 817 00:50:00,240 --> 00:50:03,040 You know, he's on the leadership council of SOP. 818 00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:05,460 Like, this is what we're fighting for. 819 00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:07,920 But I don't feel good about it. 820 00:50:08,750 --> 00:50:09,960 Okay. 821 00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:11,800 I want to go back to being your friend. 822 00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:13,880 I don't want to have this collateral. 823 00:50:13,970 --> 00:50:16,340 Did you say that you have deleted things? 824 00:50:16,720 --> 00:50:18,970 Do you know what? I have an issue with it, 825 00:50:19,050 --> 00:50:21,010 and I want to talk to you about it. 826 00:50:21,260 --> 00:50:23,770 You made a vow, which I view as a sacred vow. 827 00:50:23,850 --> 00:50:26,270 In a way, out of fear, you violated that. 828 00:50:26,890 --> 00:50:28,770 How did I violate it? 829 00:50:29,020 --> 00:50:30,820 By disclosing to Nippy. 830 00:50:30,980 --> 00:50:34,070 Nippy. Lauren, he was always going to see it. 831 00:50:34,150 --> 00:50:37,490 I didn't disclose anything that we didn't agree I was going to disclose. 832 00:50:37,610 --> 00:50:39,910 I understand if you want to choose Nippy 833 00:50:39,990 --> 00:50:42,740 and I'm telling you it's okay with me. 834 00:50:43,490 --> 00:50:46,290 But you and I did discuss this before you came in, 835 00:50:46,410 --> 00:50:48,500 that I said you would uphold the relationship with me 836 00:50:48,620 --> 00:50:51,290 above your relationship with Nippy and you said, "Yes." 837 00:50:51,420 --> 00:50:53,800 I'm not choosing you over my husband. 838 00:50:54,010 --> 00:50:55,300 I think it's good. 839 00:50:55,380 --> 00:50:58,050 This is not real. You know, you're not my master. 840 00:50:58,180 --> 00:51:01,010 I'm not your slave, you know? This is an exercise. 841 00:51:01,140 --> 00:51:03,890 This is a metaphor. It's not real. 842 00:51:05,180 --> 00:51:06,560 Okay. 843 00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:08,850 And I don't think you have bad intent about this, 844 00:51:08,980 --> 00:51:11,230 but this is not what you said it was. 845 00:51:15,820 --> 00:51:19,200 HEY LAUR 846 00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:23,120 I HEAR YOU ARE TELLING PEOPLE I AM "UNHINGED". 847 00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:26,870 DON'T FUCK WITH ME. I WON'T FUCK WITH YOU 848 00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:30,710 Our relationships are the place where we learn to be human. 849 00:51:31,830 --> 00:51:34,170 There are aspects of it that are beautiful 850 00:51:34,250 --> 00:51:36,960 and there's aspects that thwart your growth. 851 00:51:37,210 --> 00:51:39,800 You have to learn to work with both. 852 00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:43,930 You do because in love there's wanting to care about other people 853 00:51:44,010 --> 00:51:47,520 and wanting to connect with them on that level where you also help them 854 00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:49,980 and sometimes you say things that are hard for them. 855 00:51:50,100 --> 00:51:54,480 But they don't leave the interaction feeling abused, 856 00:51:54,650 --> 00:51:57,530 they leave the interaction feeling supported. 857 00:52:09,460 --> 00:52:11,750 Do you ever feel like you failed Sarah? 858 00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:15,250 - In what capacity? - To protect her. 859 00:52:19,090 --> 00:52:20,470 No. 860 00:52:22,510 --> 00:52:24,550 Because ultimately, I think I did. 861 00:52:24,850 --> 00:52:27,810 I mean, if I had known things sooner and didn't do anything, 862 00:52:27,890 --> 00:52:30,140 yeah, obviously. But it just... 863 00:52:30,270 --> 00:52:32,140 Thing happened underneath my nose. 864 00:52:32,230 --> 00:52:35,020 I trusted Lauren. I trusted this whole thing. 865 00:52:35,110 --> 00:52:37,360 We're talking about building strength. 866 00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:40,030 Let's say you're 23, 24 right now, 867 00:52:40,110 --> 00:52:43,490 and you're the kind of person who wants to do good. 868 00:52:43,610 --> 00:52:47,080 Where would you go? Do you trust our legal system for that? 869 00:52:47,830 --> 00:52:50,370 Do you trust our political system for that? 870 00:52:50,450 --> 00:52:51,790 Really, Nippy... 871 00:52:51,870 --> 00:52:54,330 You're one of the most principled people I've ever met. 872 00:52:54,420 --> 00:52:56,290 It always makes me like, "Oh my God. 873 00:52:56,380 --> 00:52:58,960 He has such a beautiful vision for the world." 874 00:52:59,050 --> 00:53:01,550 - I know. I think about it. - I know you do. 875 00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:06,100 In my 16 day, I happened to be reading a book called 'The Death of Outrage'. 876 00:53:06,180 --> 00:53:09,010 This is when Clinton in the White House with an intern 877 00:53:09,100 --> 00:53:11,770 was our biggest problem. And I remember thinking, 878 00:53:11,850 --> 00:53:14,900 "This is absurd that we have a leader who's doing this." 879 00:53:14,980 --> 00:53:16,520 And Keith is addressing 880 00:53:16,610 --> 00:53:19,980 and talking about America being docile, overweight, stupid. 881 00:53:20,150 --> 00:53:23,990 This guy's talking the way that I think people needed to be talking. 882 00:53:24,740 --> 00:53:27,450 Responsibility exists whether you see it or not. 883 00:53:27,530 --> 00:53:29,160 Responsibility is the physics, 884 00:53:29,240 --> 00:53:31,080 the interconnectedness of all things. 885 00:53:31,160 --> 00:53:33,710 You can try to deny it, but that's your stupidity. 886 00:53:33,830 --> 00:53:36,790 Write an excuse? Prove to me you're impotent. 887 00:53:38,090 --> 00:53:39,420 Blame someone? 888 00:53:39,500 --> 00:53:43,050 Now you show me that you've been dominated and you're a victim. 889 00:53:47,010 --> 00:53:48,600 I was the jackass. 890 00:53:50,060 --> 00:53:52,680 And once you can reconcile what you did, 891 00:53:52,770 --> 00:53:57,020 how you did it, the next step is pretty clear. You fix it. 892 00:53:59,320 --> 00:54:02,320 SUMMER 2017 893 00:54:03,570 --> 00:54:05,650 You got to give Butter. 894 00:54:11,580 --> 00:54:13,620 Oh my God, I didn't realize it was 4:28. 895 00:54:13,700 --> 00:54:15,040 I gotta run. Okay. 896 00:54:22,500 --> 00:54:25,300 Another one of the things that happened when I was first in ESP 897 00:54:25,420 --> 00:54:27,220 is driving in a situation like this 898 00:54:27,300 --> 00:54:29,260 and got a little road rage with someone 899 00:54:29,430 --> 00:54:32,890 and there was a coach in the back 900 00:54:33,020 --> 00:54:37,650 and he was like, "Sarah, you're an ambassador for humanity now. 901 00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:43,230 You're not allowed to express that emotion." 902 00:54:46,030 --> 00:54:48,360 Oh man, so complicated. 903 00:54:56,040 --> 00:54:58,290 Been waiting to do that for a long time. 904 00:55:05,710 --> 00:55:08,880 I'm going to film this and I wanna make sure that everything's documented 905 00:55:08,970 --> 00:55:10,720 that I'm doing the right thing. 906 00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:14,260 I'm passing over everything that you guys need to run the Vancouver Center. 907 00:55:14,430 --> 00:55:16,930 I'm trying to step away and do what is right. 908 00:55:17,480 --> 00:55:19,440 And I know you think it's a good thing, 909 00:55:19,560 --> 00:55:21,810 but it's very, very fucking serious. 910 00:55:23,570 --> 00:55:26,860 It's human trafficking and it's getting women to commit 911 00:55:26,940 --> 00:55:31,030 and be under a vow to get closer and closer and closer to sex with Keith. 912 00:55:31,820 --> 00:55:36,200 Do not enroll anyone else into this. It is illegal, unethical, immoral. 913 00:55:36,870 --> 00:55:39,620 You're fucking yourselves. Do you understand? 914 00:55:40,500 --> 00:55:42,670 - I hear your words. - I understand what you're saying. 915 00:55:42,750 --> 00:55:46,300 I know you're going to tell all that to Lauren and Keith and whoever. 916 00:55:46,420 --> 00:55:48,380 I'm officially off the sidelines. 917 00:55:49,680 --> 00:55:52,970 It's not okay for me to just be silent. Okay? 918 00:55:58,640 --> 00:56:01,770 Don't say I didn't warn you. I've always had your back. 919 00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:08,860 It's all out in the open. 920 00:56:08,990 --> 00:56:12,450 About the collateral. I'm told everyone has collateral. 921 00:56:12,530 --> 00:56:14,530 Photos will be released or not. 922 00:56:14,700 --> 00:56:17,290 I don't give a shit. Everyone can see it. 923 00:56:20,620 --> 00:56:22,210 You okay? 924 00:56:30,380 --> 00:56:32,930 - I'm broken. - I feel that. 925 00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:38,140 - Everything feels like my fault. - No. 926 00:56:39,810 --> 00:56:41,440 I feel like... 927 00:56:42,100 --> 00:56:45,110 Because all these people came through us. You know? 928 00:56:47,570 --> 00:56:50,110 We brought them in, we have to take them out. 79414

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