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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:18,566 --> 00:00:22,133 JEAN-MARIE CROCKER: Sometimes I would hear a car crunch up in the snow, 2 00:00:22,233 --> 00:00:24,566 and I'd think maybe it would be somebody coming 3 00:00:24,666 --> 00:00:26,133 to give us bad news. 4 00:00:26,233 --> 00:00:29,166 Which was not good for me to think. 5 00:00:29,266 --> 00:00:31,166 It was an underlying anxiety 6 00:00:31,266 --> 00:00:34,166 that I really think was there all the time. 7 00:00:35,733 --> 00:00:38,700 NARRATOR: All his young life, Denton Crocker, Jr.-- 8 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:41,000 known as "Mogie" to his family-- 9 00:00:41,100 --> 00:00:43,133 had dreamed of serving his country, 10 00:00:43,233 --> 00:00:45,500 of putting his own life on the line 11 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:49,433 in defense of what he called "individual freedom." 12 00:00:49,533 --> 00:00:53,500 He'd wanted to serve in Vietnam so much 13 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:56,633 he'd pressured his parents into granting their permission 14 00:00:56,733 --> 00:00:59,766 for him to join the Army before he was 18. 15 00:01:02,166 --> 00:01:05,800 He was eager for combat and pleased when he was assigned 16 00:01:05,900 --> 00:01:10,233 to the 1st Brigade of the celebrated 101st Airborne, 17 00:01:10,333 --> 00:01:14,533 the "Screaming Eagles" who had led the way on D-Day. 18 00:01:14,633 --> 00:01:18,400 But he was quickly disappointed to find himself attached 19 00:01:18,500 --> 00:01:23,400 to battalion headquarters, repairing weapons, making lists, 20 00:01:23,500 --> 00:01:25,266 keeping records. 21 00:01:25,366 --> 00:01:28,866 It was "boring," he wrote home. 22 00:01:28,966 --> 00:01:32,133 MOGIE CROCKER (dramatized): I think perhaps you will understand my disappointment 23 00:01:32,233 --> 00:01:35,033 when you see that there is little sense in being over here 24 00:01:35,133 --> 00:01:37,333 unless one faces the main objective, 25 00:01:37,433 --> 00:01:40,000 the destruction of the VC. 26 00:01:42,166 --> 00:01:44,633 Certainly one feels no sense of accomplishment 27 00:01:44,733 --> 00:01:47,433 when one's friends are facing all the dangers. 28 00:01:50,766 --> 00:01:53,966 JEAN-MARIE CROCKER: I had a map on the back of the living room door. 29 00:01:54,066 --> 00:01:58,000 And I put pins in it every time Denton Jr. moved. 30 00:01:58,100 --> 00:01:59,533 And he moved a lot. 31 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:03,166 And I knew those names at one time 32 00:02:03,266 --> 00:02:08,466 as well as any area of our own world. 33 00:02:19,566 --> 00:02:21,933 LYNDON JOHNSON: Well, how'd you have a good weekend? 34 00:02:22,033 --> 00:02:23,000 ROBERT McNAMARA: (laughs) 35 00:02:23,100 --> 00:02:24,400 Yeah, I did, Mr. President. 36 00:02:24,500 --> 00:02:25,700 I hope you did too. 37 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:27,233 JOHNSON: What's your thinking these days? 38 00:02:27,333 --> 00:02:28,600 I haven't talked to you. 39 00:02:28,700 --> 00:02:30,000 What's happening to our pause? 40 00:02:30,100 --> 00:02:31,533 What are our generals saying? 41 00:02:31,633 --> 00:02:34,066 McNAMARA: See, I think you'll find some foreign leaders 42 00:02:34,166 --> 00:02:36,966 will criticize you if you resume bombing. 43 00:02:37,066 --> 00:02:40,666 As a matter of fact, no other intelligence source 44 00:02:40,766 --> 00:02:43,800 that I've seen indicates that Hanoi is even considering 45 00:02:43,900 --> 00:02:45,600 moving toward negotiation 46 00:02:45,700 --> 00:02:47,833 in order to lead us to extend the pause. 47 00:02:47,933 --> 00:02:49,366 Intelligence information... 48 00:02:49,466 --> 00:02:53,266 NARRATOR: As 1966 began, the president of the United States 49 00:02:53,366 --> 00:02:55,766 was just learning the name of the man 50 00:02:55,866 --> 00:03:00,133 who was the most powerful member of the Politburo in Hanoi-- 51 00:03:00,233 --> 00:03:01,733 Le Duan. 52 00:03:01,833 --> 00:03:03,600 McNAMARA: ...First Secretary of the Communist Party, 53 00:03:03,700 --> 00:03:06,833 a man named Le Duan-- L-E capital D-U-A-N-- 54 00:03:06,933 --> 00:03:09,300 who today is putting considerable pressure 55 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:12,933 on Ho Chi Minh and others to ensure continuing a war 56 00:03:13,033 --> 00:03:15,433 that he thinks they either are winning or can win. 57 00:03:15,533 --> 00:03:17,433 ("Masters of War" by The Staple Singers playing) 58 00:03:17,533 --> 00:03:19,933 ♪ They're masters of war 59 00:03:22,700 --> 00:03:27,866 ♪ You build all the big guns 60 00:03:27,966 --> 00:03:29,466 ♪ You build the big planes. ♪ 61 00:03:29,566 --> 00:03:31,233 NARRATOR: As they continued to escalate the war, 62 00:03:31,333 --> 00:03:34,200 Johnson and McNamara were frustrated 63 00:03:34,300 --> 00:03:38,233 that American commanders in Vietnam, who had come of age 64 00:03:38,333 --> 00:03:40,666 during World War II and Korea, 65 00:03:40,766 --> 00:03:42,900 were having a hard time making sense 66 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:45,400 of what was happening on the ground. 67 00:03:45,500 --> 00:03:50,633 In the months and years to come, as the American presence grew, 68 00:03:50,733 --> 00:03:53,033 Hanoi would escalate too, 69 00:03:53,133 --> 00:03:55,933 sending more and more soldiers south, 70 00:03:56,033 --> 00:03:59,200 strengthening its own air defenses, 71 00:03:59,300 --> 00:04:01,433 and recruiting more fighters 72 00:04:01,533 --> 00:04:04,933 from the alienated South Vietnamese countryside. 73 00:04:08,766 --> 00:04:11,766 The Johnson administration was desperately trying 74 00:04:11,866 --> 00:04:16,000 to prop up the government in Saigon and, at the same time, 75 00:04:16,100 --> 00:04:19,300 help that government to somehow win the loyalty 76 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:21,266 of its own people. 77 00:04:21,366 --> 00:04:25,433 Johnson had tried to forge an international coalition 78 00:04:25,533 --> 00:04:27,833 to defend South Vietnam. 79 00:04:27,933 --> 00:04:33,033 But only five other countries would ever send combat troops-- 80 00:04:33,133 --> 00:04:37,033 Australia and New Zealand, Thailand, the Philippines, 81 00:04:37,133 --> 00:04:39,066 and South Korea. 82 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:45,166 America's most important allies, Britain, France and Canada, 83 00:04:45,266 --> 00:04:51,266 refused to take part and were calling instead for peace talks. 84 00:04:51,366 --> 00:04:54,033 And more and more Americans, 85 00:04:54,133 --> 00:04:56,866 including some of the country's most respected 86 00:04:56,966 --> 00:04:58,800 foreign policy experts, 87 00:04:58,900 --> 00:05:02,400 were beginning to question the way the war was being fought, 88 00:05:02,500 --> 00:05:04,733 whether it could ever be won, 89 00:05:04,833 --> 00:05:09,766 and if the United States should be in Vietnam at all. 90 00:05:10,900 --> 00:05:12,300 (explosion) 91 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:20,200 As 1966 began, 2,344 Americans had died in Vietnam. 92 00:05:20,300 --> 00:05:23,166 Nearly 200,000 were stationed there, 93 00:05:23,266 --> 00:05:26,333 and more were on their way. 94 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:30,233 Those soldiers would quickly discover 95 00:05:30,333 --> 00:05:32,566 that the war they were being asked to fight 96 00:05:32,666 --> 00:05:35,366 was not their father's war. 97 00:05:38,233 --> 00:05:41,500 SAM WILSON: We tend to fight the next war 98 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:44,466 in the same way we fought the last one. 99 00:05:44,566 --> 00:05:48,733 We are prisoners of our own experience. 100 00:05:48,833 --> 00:05:51,233 And many of the things that we learned that worked 101 00:05:51,333 --> 00:05:52,400 in World War II 102 00:05:52,500 --> 00:05:56,000 were not applicable to the war in Vietnam. 103 00:05:57,866 --> 00:06:00,000 We simply thought we'd go in with a sledgehammer 104 00:06:00,100 --> 00:06:01,766 and knock things down, clean them up, 105 00:06:01,866 --> 00:06:03,733 and it would be all over. 106 00:06:03,833 --> 00:06:07,300 It was a kind of an oversimplification 107 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:09,133 of the problem 108 00:06:09,233 --> 00:06:13,533 combined with our overconfidence that caused us, 109 00:06:13,633 --> 00:06:16,166 I think, to be arrogant. 110 00:06:16,266 --> 00:06:19,566 And it's very, very difficult to dispel ignorance 111 00:06:19,666 --> 00:06:21,833 if you retain arrogance. 112 00:06:21,933 --> 00:06:27,066 STAPLES SINGERS: ♪ I'll stand over your body and make sure that you're dead. ♪ 113 00:06:35,333 --> 00:06:36,700 (gavel pounding) 114 00:06:38,100 --> 00:06:41,066 NARRATOR: In early February of 1966, 115 00:06:41,166 --> 00:06:44,233 President Johnson got more bad news. 116 00:06:44,333 --> 00:06:47,133 His old friend, J. William Fulbright, 117 00:06:47,233 --> 00:06:48,299 the powerful chairman 118 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:50,900 of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, 119 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:54,100 planned to hold hearings on the Vietnam War, 120 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:58,700 and the television networks intended to cover the hearings 121 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:00,600 from gavel to gavel. 122 00:07:00,700 --> 00:07:04,133 Fulbright, who had once supported the war, 123 00:07:04,233 --> 00:07:06,133 now opposed it. 124 00:07:06,233 --> 00:07:09,500 LBJ was alarmed. 125 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:12,433 His own advisers had been giving him conflicting advice 126 00:07:12,533 --> 00:07:15,033 about Vietnam for years. 127 00:07:15,133 --> 00:07:18,200 But a public debate about how he was running the war 128 00:07:18,300 --> 00:07:22,333 in front of millions of Americans filled him with dread. 129 00:07:24,133 --> 00:07:26,400 As the hearings got underway, 130 00:07:26,500 --> 00:07:28,166 the president tried to deflect attention 131 00:07:28,266 --> 00:07:32,000 by suddenly announcing he was going to a military conference 132 00:07:32,100 --> 00:07:36,300 in Honolulu, to meet for the first time the two generals 133 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:39,166 who now headed the Saigon government. 134 00:07:39,266 --> 00:07:40,900 ED HERLIHY: It is a meeting without precedent, 135 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:43,800 and is designed to strengthen United States determination 136 00:07:43,900 --> 00:07:47,366 to pursue to the end the drive against communist domination 137 00:07:47,466 --> 00:07:48,833 in South Vietnam. 138 00:07:52,900 --> 00:07:56,333 NARRATOR: General Nguyen Van Thieu was the chief of state, 139 00:07:56,433 --> 00:07:59,900 but real power lay with Thieu's bitter rival, 140 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:03,200 the former head of the South Vietnamese Air Force, 141 00:08:03,300 --> 00:08:06,366 Prime Minister Nguyen Cao Ky. 142 00:08:06,466 --> 00:08:11,266 Ky was "an unguided missile," according to one U.S. diplomat, 143 00:08:11,366 --> 00:08:14,066 known for his flamboyant uniforms, 144 00:08:14,166 --> 00:08:18,200 his gaudy private life, and his public pronouncements. 145 00:08:18,300 --> 00:08:22,566 He once told a reporter that what Vietnam really needed 146 00:08:22,666 --> 00:08:25,100 was "five Hitlers." 147 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:28,866 PHAN QUANG TUE: How could we allow and accept that to happen? 148 00:08:28,966 --> 00:08:30,900 He was a charlatan. 149 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:33,566 The man not only has no training, 150 00:08:33,666 --> 00:08:36,733 has no education, but doesn't seem to inter... 151 00:08:36,833 --> 00:08:42,300 be interested in being educated, and proud of his ignorance. 152 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:45,933 TRAN NGOC CHAU (speaking English): 153 00:08:58,900 --> 00:09:01,900 (laughing) 154 00:09:15,700 --> 00:09:19,000 NARRATOR: President Johnson spent most of his time in Honolulu 155 00:09:19,100 --> 00:09:22,300 urging Ky to focus on pacification-- 156 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:25,433 earning the support of the South Vietnamese people 157 00:09:25,533 --> 00:09:28,800 by undertaking economic and social reforms 158 00:09:28,900 --> 00:09:32,966 Americans had been calling for for more than a decade. 159 00:09:33,066 --> 00:09:36,600 Johnson wasn't interested in "high-sounding words" 160 00:09:36,700 --> 00:09:38,866 about progress, he said. 161 00:09:38,966 --> 00:09:41,366 He wanted genuine achievements-- 162 00:09:41,466 --> 00:09:46,500 what they called in Texas, "coonskins on the wall." 163 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:50,400 BUI DIEM: Well, nobody understood what does it mean "coonskin." 164 00:09:50,500 --> 00:09:55,100 And people the Vietnamese at the delegation they ask me, 165 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:57,033 "You understand what it is?" 166 00:09:57,133 --> 00:09:59,566 And myself I said, "Well, I don't understand." 167 00:09:59,666 --> 00:10:02,066 I have to ask some Americans to explain to me. 168 00:10:02,166 --> 00:10:05,333 And some American friends, they explain to me later on 169 00:10:05,433 --> 00:10:07,566 and only by then the Vietnamese understood. 170 00:10:09,300 --> 00:10:11,300 I happen to hold the point of view 171 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:12,966 that it isn't going to be too long 172 00:10:13,066 --> 00:10:15,133 before the American people, as a people, 173 00:10:15,233 --> 00:10:17,800 will repudiate our war in Southeast Asia. 174 00:10:17,900 --> 00:10:19,600 MAXWELL TAYLOR: That, of course, is good news 175 00:10:19,700 --> 00:10:20,900 to Hanoi, Senator. 176 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:22,666 MORSE: Oh, I know that 177 00:10:22,766 --> 00:10:25,400 that's the smear artist that you militarists give to those of us 178 00:10:25,500 --> 00:10:27,100 that have honest differences of opinion with you. 179 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:29,866 But I don't intend to get down in the gutter with you 180 00:10:29,966 --> 00:10:32,200 and engage in that kind of debate, General. 181 00:10:32,300 --> 00:10:35,733 NARRATOR: Johnson's trip to Honolulu had not distracted 182 00:10:35,833 --> 00:10:37,133 the American public. 183 00:10:37,233 --> 00:10:40,333 They were riveted to the hearings. 184 00:10:40,433 --> 00:10:42,866 And I also think that great countries, 185 00:10:42,966 --> 00:10:44,933 especially this country, 186 00:10:45,033 --> 00:10:47,866 is quite strong enough to engage in a compromise 187 00:10:47,966 --> 00:10:50,133 without losing its standing in the world, 188 00:10:50,233 --> 00:10:52,700 without losing its prestige as a great nation. 189 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:54,866 On the contrary, I think it would be 190 00:10:54,966 --> 00:10:59,233 one of the greatest victories for us and our prestige 191 00:10:59,333 --> 00:11:03,166 if we could-could be ingenious enough and magnanimous enough 192 00:11:03,266 --> 00:11:05,133 to bring about some kind of a settlement 193 00:11:05,233 --> 00:11:07,000 of this particular struggle. 194 00:11:07,100 --> 00:11:11,533 NARRATOR: Fulbright invited the respected diplomat George Kennan 195 00:11:11,633 --> 00:11:13,233 to testify. 196 00:11:13,333 --> 00:11:16,300 For two decades, his doctrine of containment-- 197 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:18,300 stopping Soviet expansion-- 198 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:21,466 had been the basis of American foreign policy, 199 00:11:21,566 --> 00:11:24,633 and had in some ways been the justification 200 00:11:24,733 --> 00:11:30,000 for leading the United States into its proxy war in Vietnam. 201 00:11:30,100 --> 00:11:31,400 KENNAN: The first point I would like to make 202 00:11:31,500 --> 00:11:35,733 is that if we were not already involved as we are today 203 00:11:35,833 --> 00:11:37,533 in Vietnam, 204 00:11:37,633 --> 00:11:39,100 I would know of no reason 205 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:41,800 why we should wish to become so involved, 206 00:11:41,900 --> 00:11:43,500 and I could think of several reasons 207 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:45,033 why we should wish not to. 208 00:11:45,133 --> 00:11:49,266 You have referred to containment here. 209 00:11:49,366 --> 00:11:54,633 How... how can we contain in Vietnam? 210 00:11:54,733 --> 00:11:58,400 We would do better if we really would show ourselves 211 00:11:58,500 --> 00:12:01,966 a little more relaxed and less terrified of what happens 212 00:12:02,066 --> 00:12:04,033 in the... 213 00:12:04,133 --> 00:12:07,933 certainly in the smaller countries of Asia and Africa, 214 00:12:08,033 --> 00:12:12,066 and not jump around like an elephant frightened by a mouse 215 00:12:12,166 --> 00:12:14,366 every time these things occur. 216 00:12:14,466 --> 00:12:18,133 NARRATOR: Johnson was relieved when, at the last moment, 217 00:12:18,233 --> 00:12:21,200 instead of airing Kennan's testimony, 218 00:12:21,300 --> 00:12:24,700 CBS showed reruns ofThe Real McCoys, 219 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:28,800 The Andy Griffith Show andI Love Lucy. 220 00:12:28,900 --> 00:12:32,966 But NBC kept the cameras running. 221 00:12:33,066 --> 00:12:35,866 This is not only not our business, 222 00:12:35,966 --> 00:12:37,866 but I don't think we can do it successfully. 223 00:12:37,966 --> 00:12:40,833 And I take it by this you mean that 224 00:12:40,933 --> 00:12:43,933 this is simply not a practicable objective, 225 00:12:44,033 --> 00:12:46,500 as I understand it, in this country. 226 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:48,866 We can't achieve it even with the best of will. 227 00:12:48,966 --> 00:12:51,600 This is correct, and I have a fear 228 00:12:51,700 --> 00:12:57,233 that our thinking about this whole problem is still affected 229 00:12:57,333 --> 00:13:01,966 by some sort of illusions about invincibility on our part. 230 00:13:11,666 --> 00:13:13,900 NARRATOR: Just before the hearings began, 231 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:17,066 the president had decided to resume the bombing of targets 232 00:13:17,166 --> 00:13:19,033 in North Vietnam. 233 00:13:19,133 --> 00:13:24,933 The 37-day pause that had begun on Christmas Eve 1965 234 00:13:25,033 --> 00:13:28,100 had yielded no hint of Hanoi's willingness 235 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:30,333 to come to the negotiating table. 236 00:13:32,500 --> 00:13:36,400 In South Vietnam, Viet Cong guerrillas were now believed 237 00:13:36,500 --> 00:13:40,500 to control nearly three-quarters of the country. 238 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:43,400 But General William Westmoreland, 239 00:13:43,500 --> 00:13:47,300 the American commander, thought his most urgent task 240 00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:51,100 was to destroy the North Vietnamese regular army units 241 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:53,000 Hanoi was sending South. 242 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:57,866 Westmoreland's target for the next two years 243 00:13:57,966 --> 00:14:02,133 would be reaching what he called the "crossover point"-- 244 00:14:02,233 --> 00:14:05,100 the point at which U.S. and ARVN forces 245 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:09,100 were killing more enemy troops than could be replaced. 246 00:14:10,100 --> 00:14:13,766 It would be a war of attrition. 247 00:14:13,866 --> 00:14:18,766 But that would require still more American soldiers. 248 00:14:20,866 --> 00:14:24,133 They came from every corner of the country. 249 00:14:27,333 --> 00:14:30,833 MATT HARRISON: I was born at West Point when my dad was on the faculty there. 250 00:14:30,933 --> 00:14:33,433 From my earliest recollection, 251 00:14:33,533 --> 00:14:35,800 West Point was what I wanted to do, 252 00:14:35,900 --> 00:14:38,666 not even particularly because I had an inkling 253 00:14:38,766 --> 00:14:40,933 or a strong desire for a military career. 254 00:14:41,033 --> 00:14:42,133 It's just... 255 00:14:42,233 --> 00:14:44,066 West Point was kind of the height of my ambition. 256 00:14:44,166 --> 00:14:46,266 ("On, Brave Old Army Team" playing) 257 00:14:46,366 --> 00:14:49,433 NARRATOR: The son of a colonel who had served in World War II, 258 00:14:49,533 --> 00:14:54,300 Matt Harrison had grown up on Army bases around the world. 259 00:14:54,400 --> 00:14:56,400 For him and his four siblings, 260 00:14:56,500 --> 00:15:00,866 the military was always at the center of their lives. 261 00:15:00,966 --> 00:15:05,100 ANNE HARRISON BOWMAN: You addressed parents "sir" and "ma'am," 262 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:08,000 and you said "yes" and not "yeah." 263 00:15:08,100 --> 00:15:11,366 And you answered the phone, "Colonel Harrison's quarters." 264 00:15:11,466 --> 00:15:14,266 We got up every Saturday morning and we dusted the house. 265 00:15:14,366 --> 00:15:17,300 My dad would put on the West Point marching band 266 00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:19,466 and my sister and I would dust around the living room. 267 00:15:20,933 --> 00:15:22,566 NARRATOR: It seemed to Matt's parents 268 00:15:22,666 --> 00:15:24,866 that he could do no wrong. 269 00:15:24,966 --> 00:15:28,233 He was the embodiment of the values they had hoped to instill 270 00:15:28,333 --> 00:15:33,366 in all their children: duty, honor, and country. 271 00:15:34,900 --> 00:15:37,300 HARRISON: The strongest impression I have from my class 272 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:41,733 and my classmates was they were guys who just were idealists. 273 00:15:41,833 --> 00:15:44,766 And I think guys drawn from little towns 274 00:15:44,866 --> 00:15:48,200 all across the United States had that in common. 275 00:15:48,300 --> 00:15:51,200 It was a time before the questions 276 00:15:51,300 --> 00:15:53,366 about American exceptionalism. 277 00:15:53,466 --> 00:15:55,400 We didn't question. 278 00:15:55,500 --> 00:15:58,633 We believed in what this country stood for, 279 00:15:58,733 --> 00:16:02,966 and we believed that people who had the ability 280 00:16:03,066 --> 00:16:06,200 to lead soldiers should do that. 281 00:16:07,666 --> 00:16:10,400 ("Mustang Sally" by Wilson Pickett playing) 282 00:16:15,366 --> 00:16:17,866 PICKETT: ♪ Mustang Sally 283 00:16:17,966 --> 00:16:19,433 ♪ Huh! 284 00:16:19,533 --> 00:16:21,566 ROGER HARRIS: I wanted to go with the gladiators. 285 00:16:21,666 --> 00:16:23,533 I wanted to go with the tough guys. 286 00:16:26,166 --> 00:16:30,166 I was born in Boston, in the Roxbury section of Boston. 287 00:16:30,266 --> 00:16:33,333 There were those who would recruit you for gangs 288 00:16:33,433 --> 00:16:36,700 and try to entice you to do things 289 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:40,366 that-that weren't in the best interest of society. 290 00:16:40,466 --> 00:16:41,500 Let's put it like that. 291 00:16:42,900 --> 00:16:45,100 NARRATOR: Roger Harris dreamed of going to college 292 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:47,866 on a football scholarship, but was not big enough 293 00:16:47,966 --> 00:16:50,400 to play for his team in high school. 294 00:16:50,500 --> 00:16:52,666 HARRIS: And so I enlisted in the Marine Corps. 295 00:16:52,766 --> 00:16:56,733 And I felt that... that it was a win-win 296 00:16:56,833 --> 00:17:01,633 because, one, if I died, then my mother would be able 297 00:17:01,733 --> 00:17:04,900 to receive the $10,000 insurance policy. 298 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:06,700 I thought that was a lot of money, 299 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:08,366 that my mother will be rich if I die. 300 00:17:08,466 --> 00:17:09,400 You know, she'll be rich. 301 00:17:11,100 --> 00:17:13,866 If I live, then I'll be a hero, you know, 302 00:17:13,966 --> 00:17:16,233 and I can come back and get a job. 303 00:17:16,333 --> 00:17:18,700 Naive, dumb, you know? 304 00:17:20,333 --> 00:17:22,800 NARRATOR: John Musgrave was from the Fairmount neighborhood 305 00:17:22,900 --> 00:17:25,266 of Independence, Missouri. 306 00:17:25,366 --> 00:17:28,733 MUSGRAVE: I was 17 and my best friend and I 307 00:17:28,833 --> 00:17:30,966 went down and enlisted in the Marine Corps. 308 00:17:31,066 --> 00:17:34,000 I had always dreamed of being a Marine. 309 00:17:34,100 --> 00:17:35,733 And... 310 00:17:38,633 --> 00:17:42,466 Well, I knew I wasn't going to be a man right away 311 00:17:42,566 --> 00:17:45,066 but I was going to be a Marine, and that was enough. 312 00:17:45,166 --> 00:17:49,366 I'd be doing something mature. 313 00:17:49,466 --> 00:17:52,033 And I'd be doing something that was important. 314 00:17:52,133 --> 00:17:56,933 And there was a war on and I wanted a piece of it. 315 00:17:58,833 --> 00:18:01,000 BILL EHRHART: I grew up in Perkasie, Pennsylvania. 316 00:18:01,100 --> 00:18:03,233 And every Memorial Day 317 00:18:03,333 --> 00:18:06,433 all that generation of World War II would dress up 318 00:18:06,533 --> 00:18:08,533 in their American Legion uniforms and parade around. 319 00:18:10,066 --> 00:18:13,933 And I'd put red, white, and blue crepe paper on my bicycle. 320 00:18:14,033 --> 00:18:16,333 And the kids could ride behind the parade. 321 00:18:18,066 --> 00:18:21,566 NARRATOR: Bill Ehrhart would sign up in part because his father, 322 00:18:21,666 --> 00:18:24,500 a pastor, had not served. 323 00:18:24,600 --> 00:18:27,633 Ehrhart was a gifted student 324 00:18:27,733 --> 00:18:29,666 and in his senior year in high school 325 00:18:29,766 --> 00:18:32,766 was accepted by four colleges. 326 00:18:32,866 --> 00:18:34,666 Had he attended any one of them, 327 00:18:34,766 --> 00:18:38,033 he would have been deferred from the draft. 328 00:18:38,133 --> 00:18:39,666 It all came down to this notion 329 00:18:39,766 --> 00:18:42,700 of I was going to serve my country and be a hero 330 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:46,266 and have that gorgeous Marine Corps uniform. 331 00:18:46,366 --> 00:18:49,333 And the girls would just be draped around my neck 332 00:18:49,433 --> 00:18:52,066 and nobody would beat me up again. 333 00:18:52,166 --> 00:18:53,466 But at the same time 334 00:18:53,566 --> 00:18:57,000 I would really be serving my country. 335 00:18:57,100 --> 00:18:59,833 It was my chance to be... (sighs) 336 00:18:59,933 --> 00:19:02,500 one doesn't want to trivialize it, but it was my chance to be 337 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:04,433 the star of my own John Wayne movie. 338 00:19:04,533 --> 00:19:09,733 It was my chance to do what that World War II generation had done 339 00:19:09,833 --> 00:19:12,066 and seemed to be so proud of. 340 00:19:12,166 --> 00:19:15,133 Now I had my turn. 341 00:19:16,533 --> 00:19:17,766 NARRATOR: Wherever they came from, 342 00:19:17,866 --> 00:19:20,833 whatever their reasons for joining the military, 343 00:19:20,933 --> 00:19:23,333 training transformed them. 344 00:19:23,433 --> 00:19:27,800 (United States Marine Band playing "Semper Fidelis" march) 345 00:19:32,300 --> 00:19:34,566 For about the first five weeks at Parris Island, 346 00:19:34,666 --> 00:19:38,166 I was convinced that I was going to die there. 347 00:19:39,633 --> 00:19:41,733 The drill instructors said they were going to kill me. 348 00:19:41,833 --> 00:19:43,400 And they certainly sounded serious. 349 00:19:46,033 --> 00:19:48,733 MUSGRAVE: I grew up in segregated neighborhoods all my life. 350 00:19:48,833 --> 00:19:52,600 So, I'd never met a black person till I arrived at boot camp. 351 00:19:52,700 --> 00:19:56,400 Never stood next to a black person or a Hispanic 352 00:19:56,500 --> 00:19:58,166 or anyone who was Jewish. 353 00:19:58,266 --> 00:20:01,400 I just... they didn't mix where I grew up. 354 00:20:01,500 --> 00:20:03,966 So that was just eye opening. 355 00:20:04,066 --> 00:20:07,533 But when I got to talking to everybody, we were all the same. 356 00:20:07,633 --> 00:20:10,233 We were all working class and poor. 357 00:20:10,333 --> 00:20:13,566 And we all wanted to be Marines real bad. 358 00:20:14,733 --> 00:20:17,266 EHRHART: By the time I graduated, 359 00:20:17,366 --> 00:20:20,666 I felt like I was king of the world. 360 00:20:20,766 --> 00:20:22,700 I was God. 361 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:25,066 I could do anything. 362 00:20:25,166 --> 00:20:28,400 On that day I became a Marine. 363 00:20:28,500 --> 00:20:32,300 You know, the Marine Corps trains you to be a fighter. 364 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:34,466 They train you to fight, they train you to kill. 365 00:20:34,566 --> 00:20:37,700 They used to say that if you're a Marine, you can't die 366 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:40,400 until you kill three Vietnamese. 367 00:20:41,733 --> 00:20:43,633 And I said, "Well, I'm from Roxbury. 368 00:20:43,733 --> 00:20:48,633 If the expectation is three, I'll do ten." 369 00:20:50,433 --> 00:20:52,066 You know, craziness. 370 00:20:52,166 --> 00:20:54,133 (gunshot) 371 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:04,000 LESLIE GELB: The tendency for a great power is to use 372 00:21:04,100 --> 00:21:06,000 what it's greatest at-- 373 00:21:06,100 --> 00:21:09,300 namely its firepower, destructive power. 374 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:12,633 Dropping a lot of bombs and shooting a lot of artillery 375 00:21:12,733 --> 00:21:14,500 at a distance. 376 00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:15,866 You save lives. 377 00:21:15,966 --> 00:21:18,566 You kill a lot of them, you don't lose a lot of us. 378 00:21:20,166 --> 00:21:22,933 NARRATOR: The central coastal province of Binh Dinh 379 00:21:23,033 --> 00:21:25,933 was home to more than half a million people. 380 00:21:26,033 --> 00:21:29,633 For decades, it had been a guerrilla stronghold, 381 00:21:29,733 --> 00:21:32,600 and in early 1966, 382 00:21:32,700 --> 00:21:37,833 the Viet Cong had been augmented by North Vietnamese regulars, 383 00:21:37,933 --> 00:21:40,533 some 8,000 men in all. 384 00:21:44,033 --> 00:21:46,900 General Westmoreland sent 20,000 American, 385 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:49,866 South Vietnamese and South Korean troops 386 00:21:49,966 --> 00:21:53,266 storming across the province in pursuit of the enemy 387 00:21:53,366 --> 00:21:55,933 and their sources of supply. 388 00:21:56,033 --> 00:22:00,600 They first dropped leaflets and broadcast from loudspeakers 389 00:22:00,700 --> 00:22:02,733 to warn villagers of the terrible fate 390 00:22:02,833 --> 00:22:06,533 that awaited anyone who fired on their helicopters, 391 00:22:06,633 --> 00:22:08,866 urged them to leave their homes, 392 00:22:08,966 --> 00:22:12,200 promised safe passage to any Viet Cong 393 00:22:12,300 --> 00:22:13,866 who wished to surrender. 394 00:22:13,966 --> 00:22:17,533 Then they called in airstrikes and artillery 395 00:22:17,633 --> 00:22:21,400 and blew the hamlets to bits. 396 00:22:21,500 --> 00:22:25,900 It was the first large-scale search-and-destroy campaign 397 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:27,833 of the war. 398 00:22:27,933 --> 00:22:29,333 (shouting, gunfire) 399 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:35,100 The offensive lasted 42 days. 400 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:41,800 The Army reported 2,389 enemy soldiers killed. 401 00:22:41,900 --> 00:22:44,833 Westmoreland was pleased. 402 00:22:44,933 --> 00:22:47,533 But commanders on the scene were concerned 403 00:22:47,633 --> 00:22:51,300 that despite all the American firepower brought against them, 404 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:55,233 most of the North Vietnamese regulars had still managed 405 00:22:55,333 --> 00:22:58,966 to escape back into the Central Highlands. 406 00:22:59,066 --> 00:23:03,666 The operation would drive more than 100,000 civilians 407 00:23:03,766 --> 00:23:05,433 from their homes. 408 00:23:06,733 --> 00:23:09,800 Similar search-and-destroy and bombing campaigns-- 409 00:23:09,900 --> 00:23:15,066 17 large-scale U.S. offensives in 1966 alone-- 410 00:23:15,166 --> 00:23:16,600 would produce a total 411 00:23:16,700 --> 00:23:19,666 of more than three million homeless people 412 00:23:19,766 --> 00:23:21,333 all across the country, 413 00:23:21,433 --> 00:23:26,666 roughly one-fifth of South Vietnam's population. 414 00:23:30,933 --> 00:23:34,266 Since there was no front in Vietnam, 415 00:23:34,366 --> 00:23:37,866 as there had been in the first and second World Wars, 416 00:23:37,966 --> 00:23:42,300 since no ground was ever permanently won or lost, 417 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:46,033 the American military command in Vietnam-- MACV-- 418 00:23:46,133 --> 00:23:50,566 fell back more and more on a single grisly measure 419 00:23:50,666 --> 00:23:52,433 of supposed success: 420 00:23:52,533 --> 00:23:54,766 counting corpses. 421 00:23:54,866 --> 00:23:57,533 Body count. 422 00:24:02,700 --> 00:24:04,033 JAMES WILLBANKS: The problem with the war, 423 00:24:04,133 --> 00:24:06,766 as it often is, are the metrics. 424 00:24:06,866 --> 00:24:11,733 It is a situation where if you can't count what's important, 425 00:24:11,833 --> 00:24:14,333 you make what you can count important. 426 00:24:15,666 --> 00:24:17,466 So, in this particular case what you could count 427 00:24:17,566 --> 00:24:20,033 was dead enemy bodies. 428 00:24:21,966 --> 00:24:24,700 JOE GALLOWAY: You don't get details with a body count. 429 00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:26,633 You get numbers. 430 00:24:26,733 --> 00:24:31,500 And the numbers are lies, most of 'em. 431 00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:36,133 If body count is your success mark, 432 00:24:36,233 --> 00:24:42,300 then you're pushing otherwise honorable men, warriors, 433 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:43,733 to become liars. 434 00:24:45,566 --> 00:24:47,400 ROBERT GARD: If body count 435 00:24:47,500 --> 00:24:48,733 is the measure of success, 436 00:24:48,833 --> 00:24:52,400 then there's the tendency to count every body 437 00:24:52,500 --> 00:24:54,633 as an enemy soldier. 438 00:24:54,733 --> 00:24:59,200 There's a tendency to want to pile up dead bodies 439 00:24:59,300 --> 00:25:05,366 and perhaps to use less discriminate firepower 440 00:25:05,466 --> 00:25:06,933 than you otherwise might 441 00:25:07,033 --> 00:25:10,500 in order to achieve the result 442 00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:14,266 that you're charged with trying to obtain. 443 00:25:27,866 --> 00:25:30,300 (man shouting) 444 00:25:34,700 --> 00:25:40,233 MERRILL McPEAK: Just think about the problem from the North's point of view. 445 00:25:40,333 --> 00:25:43,600 They had to supply the South. 446 00:25:43,700 --> 00:25:46,933 I'm talking about bringing in people, equipment, supplies, 447 00:25:47,033 --> 00:25:48,933 and so forth. 448 00:25:49,033 --> 00:25:54,000 They started from nothing and pushed a road through that... 449 00:25:54,100 --> 00:25:57,033 through an area the size of Massachusetts. 450 00:25:57,133 --> 00:26:01,066 So this is not a trivial amount of real estate 451 00:26:01,166 --> 00:26:04,333 that they took over, built a road on, 452 00:26:04,433 --> 00:26:06,033 and then maintained it. 453 00:26:08,766 --> 00:26:12,433 NARRATOR: For years, Hanoi had smuggled most of its arms and supplies 454 00:26:12,533 --> 00:26:15,866 to the South aboard an improvised fleet of junks, 455 00:26:15,966 --> 00:26:18,333 trawlers and freighters. 456 00:26:18,433 --> 00:26:20,966 But when the U.S. Navy effectively blockaded 457 00:26:21,066 --> 00:26:22,833 the Southern coastline, 458 00:26:22,933 --> 00:26:25,266 the North Vietnamese would be forced to move 459 00:26:25,366 --> 00:26:28,133 almost all of their supplies overland, 460 00:26:28,233 --> 00:26:30,333 through Laos and Cambodia, 461 00:26:30,433 --> 00:26:32,766 neutral countries Hanoi considered 462 00:26:32,866 --> 00:26:35,233 part of the greater battlefield. 463 00:26:35,333 --> 00:26:38,933 Americans called it the Ho Chi Minh Trail. 464 00:26:39,033 --> 00:26:43,033 The North Vietnamese called it Route 559, 465 00:26:43,133 --> 00:26:47,100 after the men and women of the 559th Army Corps, 466 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:50,600 who were turning it from a braided web of footpaths 467 00:26:50,700 --> 00:26:54,866 into 12,000 tangled miles of jungle roadways 468 00:26:54,966 --> 00:26:58,666 down which men and materiel streamed south. 469 00:26:59,900 --> 00:27:01,200 When they had fought the French, 470 00:27:01,300 --> 00:27:05,366 the Viet Minh had depended on tens of thousands of porters, 471 00:27:05,466 --> 00:27:08,433 then on legions of bicycles. 472 00:27:08,533 --> 00:27:11,700 Now, to offset the growing American presence, 473 00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:15,533 the North Vietnamese used more mechanized transport-- 474 00:27:15,633 --> 00:27:18,733 relays of six-wheeled Russian-built trucks 475 00:27:18,833 --> 00:27:22,466 traveling under cover of darkness. 476 00:27:22,566 --> 00:27:25,533 MACV reasoned that if the Ho Chi Minh Trail 477 00:27:25,633 --> 00:27:28,133 could somehow be sufficiently damaged, 478 00:27:28,233 --> 00:27:32,533 the enemy would be unable to sustain itself. 479 00:27:35,100 --> 00:27:38,666 Three million tons of explosives would eventually be dropped 480 00:27:38,766 --> 00:27:41,366 on the Laos portion of the trail alone-- 481 00:27:41,466 --> 00:27:45,600 a million more tons than fell on Germany and Japan 482 00:27:45,700 --> 00:27:48,500 during all of World War II. 483 00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:52,600 Some key choke-points were hit so many times 484 00:27:52,700 --> 00:27:56,100 the workers gave them names-- "the Gate of Death," 485 00:27:56,200 --> 00:28:01,900 "Fried Flesh Hill" and "the Gorge of Lost Souls." 486 00:28:04,033 --> 00:28:06,566 To expose enemy traffic, 487 00:28:06,666 --> 00:28:09,533 other aircraft dropped chemical defoliants, 488 00:28:09,633 --> 00:28:11,566 including Agent Orange, 489 00:28:11,666 --> 00:28:14,600 that destroyed thousands of acres of jungle 490 00:28:14,700 --> 00:28:18,466 and turned the earth into what one American pilot called 491 00:28:18,566 --> 00:28:21,166 "bony, lunar dust." 492 00:28:23,066 --> 00:28:25,400 McPEAK: We'd punch a hole in the road and say, 493 00:28:25,500 --> 00:28:27,033 "Ha ha, they'll never get around that one." 494 00:28:27,133 --> 00:28:29,733 And the next day you'd come up, and the hole wouldn't be there; 495 00:28:29,833 --> 00:28:32,566 and there'd be dust on the trees back, you know, 50 meters 496 00:28:32,666 --> 00:28:35,533 in both directions, saying, heavy traffic all night. 497 00:28:36,866 --> 00:28:39,533 DONG SI NGUYEN: 498 00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:57,666 NARRATOR: As many as 230,000 teenagers, many of them volunteers, 499 00:28:57,766 --> 00:29:01,800 worked to keep the roads open and the traffic moving. 500 00:29:01,900 --> 00:29:04,833 More than half of them were women. 501 00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:10,400 Le Minh Khue, who had left her home in the North 502 00:29:10,500 --> 00:29:13,433 with a novel by Ernest Hemingway in her backpack, 503 00:29:13,533 --> 00:29:17,100 observed her 17th birthday on the trail. 504 00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:19,500 LE MINH KHUE: 505 00:29:33,333 --> 00:29:38,433 NARRATOR: Thousands died on the trail from starvation and accidents, 506 00:29:38,533 --> 00:29:42,133 fevers and snakebite and sheer exhaustion, 507 00:29:42,233 --> 00:29:45,066 as well as from the relentless bombing. 508 00:29:50,866 --> 00:29:53,133 LE MINH KHUE: 509 00:30:07,033 --> 00:30:09,100 TRAN CONG THANG: 510 00:30:52,066 --> 00:30:54,366 (Doug Wamble's "A Hard Rain's A-Gonna Fall" playing) 511 00:30:57,033 --> 00:30:59,366 HOWARD K. SMITH (on television): But in this kind of war you never know. 512 00:30:59,466 --> 00:31:01,233 You have to be constantly alert 513 00:31:01,333 --> 00:31:03,766 because you can't tell friends from enemies. 514 00:31:03,866 --> 00:31:07,333 Relax for a moment and your reward may be a grenade 515 00:31:07,433 --> 00:31:08,866 or a hail of bullets. 516 00:31:08,966 --> 00:31:11,133 CAROL CROCKER: I couldn't watch the news. 517 00:31:11,233 --> 00:31:14,400 My parents would be sitting in front of the television 518 00:31:14,500 --> 00:31:16,900 and I would hide in the kitchen. 519 00:31:19,033 --> 00:31:22,600 Of course you don't tell anybody, but it was too much. 520 00:31:22,700 --> 00:31:24,633 I really didn't want to know. 521 00:31:24,733 --> 00:31:27,666 ("Smokestack Lightnin'" by Howlin' Wolf playing) 522 00:31:34,633 --> 00:31:38,633 HOWLIN' WOLF: ♪ Oh-oh, smokestack lightnin'. 523 00:31:38,733 --> 00:31:42,100 NARRATOR: Mogie Crocker had spent most of his boyhood 524 00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:43,866 reading about war. 525 00:31:43,966 --> 00:31:47,300 But nothing had prepared him for what he would experience 526 00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:50,366 in Quang Duc Province on the Cambodian border. 527 00:31:52,433 --> 00:31:54,066 He had deliberately fouled up his work 528 00:31:54,166 --> 00:31:56,566 at battalion headquarters so badly 529 00:31:56,666 --> 00:31:58,233 that he had finally been reassigned 530 00:31:58,333 --> 00:32:01,766 to what he wanted most-- a combat unit. 531 00:32:01,866 --> 00:32:05,866 HOWLIN' WOLF: ♪ Whoa-oh, tell me, baby 532 00:32:05,966 --> 00:32:09,966 ♪ What's the matter with you? 533 00:32:10,066 --> 00:32:13,233 ♪ Why don't you hear me cryin' ? 534 00:32:13,333 --> 00:32:15,033 ♪ Oooh 535 00:32:15,133 --> 00:32:18,166 JEAN-MARIE CROCKER: Not hearing in those days was so difficult. 536 00:32:18,266 --> 00:32:22,666 There'd be at least eight to ten days usually between letters. 537 00:32:22,766 --> 00:32:26,699 So knowing he was in action, you just didn't know what, 538 00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:28,600 you know, might be going on. 539 00:32:30,433 --> 00:32:32,466 NARRATOR: Mogie's battalion commander, 540 00:32:32,566 --> 00:32:34,766 Lieutenant Colonel Henry Emerson, 541 00:32:34,866 --> 00:32:36,366 known as "The Gunfighter," 542 00:32:36,466 --> 00:32:40,199 was courageous, implacable, relentless. 543 00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:43,500 A few months before Mogie got there, 544 00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:47,000 he had offered a case of whiskey to the first of his men 545 00:32:47,100 --> 00:32:51,166 to bring him the hacked-off head of an enemy soldier. 546 00:32:51,266 --> 00:32:54,133 They did. 547 00:32:56,966 --> 00:33:01,066 For nine days in early May of 1966, 548 00:33:01,166 --> 00:33:05,500 Mogie and his outfit battled nothing but the terrain. 549 00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:08,600 They struggled through a labyrinth of elephant grass 550 00:33:08,699 --> 00:33:10,033 and thorn bushes, 551 00:33:10,133 --> 00:33:12,933 bamboo taller than three men 552 00:33:13,033 --> 00:33:15,766 and triple-canopied jungle so thick 553 00:33:15,866 --> 00:33:19,900 it sometimes took an hour to move 100 feet. 554 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:21,166 (thunder rumbles) 555 00:33:21,266 --> 00:33:22,700 The monsoon had begun. 556 00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:26,266 Sunlight rarely reached the forest floor. 557 00:33:26,366 --> 00:33:28,400 Finger-long black leeches 558 00:33:28,500 --> 00:33:32,133 caused wounds that quickly became infected. 559 00:33:32,233 --> 00:33:35,533 When Colonel Emerson learned that four companies 560 00:33:35,633 --> 00:33:38,233 of North Vietnamese were preparing an ambush, 561 00:33:38,333 --> 00:33:41,433 he decided to ambush the ambushers. 562 00:33:42,633 --> 00:33:46,200 On May 11, he ordered his men to attack, 563 00:33:46,300 --> 00:33:49,800 backed by massive air and artillery strikes. 564 00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:54,200 Before the fighting ended, 565 00:33:54,300 --> 00:34:00,333 some 2,000 shells had slammed into the enemy positions. 566 00:34:00,433 --> 00:34:04,233 Blood was everywhere, pooled on the ground, 567 00:34:04,333 --> 00:34:07,800 smeared on leaves and grass and bamboo. 568 00:34:07,900 --> 00:34:10,333 There were scores of corpses, 569 00:34:10,433 --> 00:34:14,900 torn to pieces or blown into the earth, hidden in thickets, 570 00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:18,133 half-buried in scooped-out graves. 571 00:34:18,233 --> 00:34:20,566 The earth-shaking concussions 572 00:34:20,666 --> 00:34:24,566 had blown the eyeballs of some of them from their heads. 573 00:34:26,033 --> 00:34:27,366 In the midst of the fighting, 574 00:34:27,466 --> 00:34:30,133 Mogie's squad was moving along a narrow path 575 00:34:30,233 --> 00:34:33,400 when two enemy machine guns opened up on them. 576 00:34:33,500 --> 00:34:36,266 (gunfire) 577 00:34:39,766 --> 00:34:42,966 His closest friend was fatally wounded. 578 00:34:43,066 --> 00:34:47,733 Mogie crouched in front of him, radioed for suppressive fire, 579 00:34:47,833 --> 00:34:51,733 and then, as both machine guns continued shooting, 580 00:34:51,833 --> 00:34:56,233 he carried his dying friend off the battlefield. 581 00:34:57,333 --> 00:34:58,533 For his courage, 582 00:34:58,633 --> 00:35:02,866 he would be awarded the Army Commendation Medal. 583 00:35:05,066 --> 00:35:08,366 In his letters home, Mogie told his family 584 00:35:08,466 --> 00:35:12,366 nothing of what he'd seen or done. 585 00:35:12,466 --> 00:35:16,233 (David Cieri playing "Sound of Silence") 586 00:35:19,700 --> 00:35:23,066 JEAN-MARIE CROCKER: One day when I was at the post office mailing something, 587 00:35:23,166 --> 00:35:27,066 I asked the clerk, "How do they let you know 588 00:35:27,166 --> 00:35:29,033 if your son is wounded?" 589 00:35:29,133 --> 00:35:32,166 It was very hard for me to form those words. 590 00:35:32,266 --> 00:35:34,866 But I just felt I've got to know. 591 00:35:34,966 --> 00:35:39,266 I just felt so suspended in space, in anxiety. 592 00:35:41,166 --> 00:35:44,600 And the man said, "Now, don't ask that. 593 00:35:44,700 --> 00:35:47,133 Don't think about that." 594 00:35:47,233 --> 00:35:49,900 I said, "Well, I have to know." 595 00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:53,600 And he said, "Don't worry, they'll tell you." 596 00:35:56,833 --> 00:36:01,100 (Pete Seeger playing "The Willing Conscript") 597 00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:03,366 SEEGER: ♪ Oh sergeant, I'm a draftee 598 00:36:03,466 --> 00:36:06,066 ♪ And I've just arrived in camp ♪ 599 00:36:06,166 --> 00:36:10,700 ♪ I've come to wear the uniform and join the martial tramp ♪ 600 00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:15,533 ♪ And I want to do my duty, but one thing I do implore ♪ 601 00:36:15,633 --> 00:36:17,300 ♪ You must give me lessons, sergeant ♪ 602 00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:20,566 ♪ For I've never killed before. ♪ 603 00:36:22,466 --> 00:36:27,166 PHILIP CAPUTO: I didn't like the war protesters whatever. 604 00:36:27,266 --> 00:36:30,400 I kind of felt that they were privileged, spoiled kids 605 00:36:30,500 --> 00:36:37,266 who may have been protesting because they didn't want to go. 606 00:36:37,366 --> 00:36:39,800 So they leave it to some guy 607 00:36:39,900 --> 00:36:42,200 that maybe got through two years of high school 608 00:36:42,300 --> 00:36:43,566 to go do it for 'em. 609 00:36:44,766 --> 00:36:47,233 BILL ZIMMERMAN: The war by 1966 610 00:36:47,333 --> 00:36:49,800 began to impact the middle class 611 00:36:49,900 --> 00:36:53,066 because the draft calls had to be enlarged. 612 00:36:53,166 --> 00:36:56,166 They couldn't get enough people to volunteer 613 00:36:56,266 --> 00:36:58,500 or draft people out of the working class. 614 00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:00,466 They started drafting people out of college. 615 00:37:00,566 --> 00:37:04,733 And that's when the antiwar movement shifted 616 00:37:04,833 --> 00:37:08,433 from a moral movement to a self-interest movement 617 00:37:08,533 --> 00:37:11,633 driven by people who didn't want to go to war 618 00:37:11,733 --> 00:37:16,066 and their loved ones who didn't want them to go to war. 619 00:37:16,166 --> 00:37:18,566 SEEGER: ♪ And I know that it won't matter ♪ 620 00:37:18,666 --> 00:37:22,066 ♪ That I've never killed before. ♪ 621 00:37:22,166 --> 00:37:23,466 (school bell rings) 622 00:37:23,566 --> 00:37:25,833 NARRATOR: Bill Zimmerman was a graduate student 623 00:37:25,933 --> 00:37:30,300 at the University of Chicago in May of 1966. 624 00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:33,033 The son of Eastern European refugees, 625 00:37:33,133 --> 00:37:35,700 he'd worked for civil rights in Mississippi 626 00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:39,100 and had been opposed to American involvement in Vietnam 627 00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:41,933 since 1963. 628 00:37:42,033 --> 00:37:44,500 The draft was a consuming issue 629 00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:47,133 for young men of Zimmerman's generation. 630 00:37:47,233 --> 00:37:51,533 Since 1942, every male citizen of the United States 631 00:37:51,633 --> 00:37:55,333 had been required to register at age 18. 632 00:37:55,433 --> 00:37:58,900 But of the nearly 27 million American men 633 00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:01,733 who came of age during the Vietnam War, 634 00:38:01,833 --> 00:38:04,833 more than half avoided military service 635 00:38:04,933 --> 00:38:07,400 through exemptions and deferments. 636 00:38:07,500 --> 00:38:11,166 Nearly 500,000 Americans applied 637 00:38:11,266 --> 00:38:13,500 for conscientious objector status 638 00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:15,766 on religious or moral grounds, 639 00:38:15,866 --> 00:38:18,866 six times as many as in World War II. 640 00:38:18,966 --> 00:38:25,133 In all, 170,000 were allowed to perform alternative service 641 00:38:25,233 --> 00:38:29,600 in hospitals, homeless shelters, and schools. 642 00:38:29,700 --> 00:38:33,766 Some were trained as medics and sent to Vietnam. 643 00:38:33,866 --> 00:38:36,366 At least two were killed; 644 00:38:36,466 --> 00:38:40,233 both received the Congressional Medal of Honor. 645 00:38:40,333 --> 00:38:44,700 A million young men served in the Reserves or National Guard 646 00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:48,400 with the expectation they would never be sent into combat. 647 00:38:48,500 --> 00:38:53,033 Reservists and Guardsmen were almost always white, 648 00:38:53,133 --> 00:38:55,833 generally better educated, better connected, 649 00:38:55,933 --> 00:38:58,566 and better paid than draftees. 650 00:38:58,666 --> 00:39:02,266 Interrupting their lives, President Johnson felt, 651 00:39:02,366 --> 00:39:05,200 would have increased opposition to the war. 652 00:39:05,300 --> 00:39:10,833 "If you've got the dough," GIs said, "you don't have to go." 653 00:39:10,933 --> 00:39:12,400 ("Backlash Blues" by Nina Simone playing) 654 00:39:12,500 --> 00:39:14,700 The result was an Army heavily skewed 655 00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:17,566 toward minorities and the underprivileged. 656 00:39:17,666 --> 00:39:20,700 SIMONE: ♪ Mr. Backlash, Mr. Backlash 657 00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:23,400 ♪ Just who do you think I am? 658 00:39:23,500 --> 00:39:26,433 ♪ You raise my taxes, freeze my wages ♪ 659 00:39:26,533 --> 00:39:29,600 ♪ And send my son to Vietnam. 660 00:39:29,700 --> 00:39:33,466 NARRATOR: For a time, African Americans, 661 00:39:33,566 --> 00:39:37,166 though they represented only 12% of the population, 662 00:39:37,266 --> 00:39:41,000 suffered a disproportionate number of casualties. 663 00:39:41,100 --> 00:39:45,066 Resentment began to grow. 664 00:39:45,166 --> 00:39:47,133 STOKELY CARMICHAEL: We've got to build so much strength 665 00:39:47,233 --> 00:39:48,733 in building our community, 666 00:39:48,833 --> 00:39:50,866 that if they come to get one person, 667 00:39:50,966 --> 00:39:52,366 they going to have to mess with us all. 668 00:39:52,466 --> 00:39:53,600 That's what we got to do! 669 00:39:53,700 --> 00:39:55,066 That's what we go to do. 670 00:39:55,166 --> 00:39:56,566 (applause) 671 00:39:56,666 --> 00:40:01,133 We've got to build so much strength inside our community, 672 00:40:01,233 --> 00:40:04,566 so that when LBJ says, "Come here, boy, to my war," 673 00:40:04,666 --> 00:40:06,666 we say, "Hell no, we ain't going." 674 00:40:06,766 --> 00:40:07,966 (applause) 675 00:40:08,066 --> 00:40:10,333 SIMONE: ♪ But the world is big. 676 00:40:10,433 --> 00:40:11,633 MUHAMMAD ALI: I'm not going to help nobody 677 00:40:11,733 --> 00:40:13,966 get something my Negroes don't have. 678 00:40:14,066 --> 00:40:15,333 If I'm going to die, I'll die now, 679 00:40:15,433 --> 00:40:18,166 right here fighting you, if I'm going to die. 680 00:40:18,266 --> 00:40:22,100 You my enemy, my enemy is the white people, not Viet Congs, 681 00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:23,666 or Chinese, or Japanese. 682 00:40:23,766 --> 00:40:26,166 You my opposer when I want freedom. 683 00:40:26,266 --> 00:40:28,133 You my opposer when I want justice. 684 00:40:28,233 --> 00:40:29,666 You my opposer when I want equality. 685 00:40:29,766 --> 00:40:31,533 And you want me to go somewhere and fight, 686 00:40:31,633 --> 00:40:33,966 but you won't even stand up for me here at home. 687 00:40:34,066 --> 00:40:39,166 NARRATOR: At first, 10,000 draftees were called up each month, 688 00:40:39,266 --> 00:40:44,566 but in 1966, the growing demand for fresh troops in Vietnam 689 00:40:44,666 --> 00:40:48,266 raised that number to 30,000. 690 00:40:48,366 --> 00:40:51,566 Now, thousands of college students 691 00:40:51,666 --> 00:40:55,000 could no longer expect a deferment. 692 00:40:55,100 --> 00:40:58,400 ZIMMERMAN: And if your rank fell below a certain threshold, 693 00:40:58,500 --> 00:41:01,633 you were yanked out of college. 694 00:41:01,733 --> 00:41:04,366 And the worst that could happen to you is you would be killed 695 00:41:04,466 --> 00:41:06,166 in Vietnam. 696 00:41:06,266 --> 00:41:09,700 So we protested at the University of Chicago 697 00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:14,400 that the university was complicit with this war 698 00:41:14,500 --> 00:41:18,766 by agreeing to supply those rankings to the draft board. 699 00:41:18,866 --> 00:41:21,466 We thought for the first time, you know, 700 00:41:21,566 --> 00:41:23,366 we're really having an impact. 701 00:41:27,166 --> 00:41:32,766 NARRATOR: But a majority of Americans, old and young, supported the war. 702 00:41:32,866 --> 00:41:35,066 The Young Americans for Freedom, 703 00:41:35,166 --> 00:41:38,600 created by the conservative writer William F. Buckley, 704 00:41:38,700 --> 00:41:43,366 held counter-demonstrations on campuses across the country. 705 00:41:43,466 --> 00:41:46,866 CROWD: ♪ His truth is marching on. 706 00:41:52,300 --> 00:41:54,433 LE QUAN CONG: 707 00:42:41,900 --> 00:42:45,700 DUONG VAN MAI ELLIOTT: I was brought up to believe that the communists were people 708 00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:50,800 who destroy the family, destroy religion, 709 00:42:50,900 --> 00:42:54,366 and people who had no allegiance to our country 710 00:42:54,466 --> 00:42:57,533 but to international communism. 711 00:42:57,633 --> 00:43:01,666 My mother would describe them as (speaking Vietnamese), 712 00:43:01,766 --> 00:43:04,000 which means that these are people 713 00:43:04,100 --> 00:43:06,766 with the head of a water buffalo and the face of a horse, 714 00:43:06,866 --> 00:43:10,800 meaning that they were subhumans, and they were brutal. 715 00:43:12,133 --> 00:43:15,400 But on the other hand I thought they also include people 716 00:43:15,500 --> 00:43:19,166 like my sister Thang and a lot of my cousins. 717 00:43:19,266 --> 00:43:23,533 I couldn't quite reconcile the two images. 718 00:43:23,633 --> 00:43:27,900 But of the two, I think the other image was much stronger 719 00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:29,900 because I was so scared of them. 720 00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:33,500 I thought these people must be really, really horrible people. 721 00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:36,066 That was the frame of mind I had 722 00:43:36,166 --> 00:43:40,400 when I started doing research into the communist movement. 723 00:43:40,500 --> 00:43:44,000 NARRATOR: Duong Van Mai was the daughter of an official 724 00:43:44,100 --> 00:43:47,266 in the South Vietnamese government and was now married 725 00:43:47,366 --> 00:43:49,933 to an American, David Elliott. 726 00:43:50,033 --> 00:43:53,166 Back in 1964, she had gone to work 727 00:43:53,266 --> 00:43:55,866 for the RAND Corporation in Saigon. 728 00:43:55,966 --> 00:43:58,200 The think tank had been commissioned 729 00:43:58,300 --> 00:44:02,100 by Robert McNamara to do a study of enemy prisoners 730 00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:05,166 to find out "Who are the Viet Cong? 731 00:44:05,266 --> 00:44:07,566 And what makes them tick?" 732 00:44:09,300 --> 00:44:11,600 DUONG VAN MAI ELLIOTT: I remember my first interview. 733 00:44:11,700 --> 00:44:13,366 I was by myself. 734 00:44:13,466 --> 00:44:18,333 I was very young and I was going to this pretty grim prison 735 00:44:18,433 --> 00:44:23,066 to interview this high-ranking cadre who had been captured. 736 00:44:23,166 --> 00:44:27,200 I went in thinking I'm going to meet this beast, you know, 737 00:44:27,300 --> 00:44:29,666 this guy with the head of a water buffalo 738 00:44:29,766 --> 00:44:31,300 and the face of a horse. 739 00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:34,000 He walked in and he was very surprised to see me. 740 00:44:34,100 --> 00:44:35,266 (chuckles) 741 00:44:35,366 --> 00:44:38,000 Just as surprised as I was to see him. 742 00:44:38,100 --> 00:44:42,400 Here was a man who had devoted all his life to fight 743 00:44:42,500 --> 00:44:45,400 for what he called a just cause 744 00:44:45,500 --> 00:44:48,133 to free his country of foreign domination, 745 00:44:48,233 --> 00:44:52,800 to reunify the country under just government. 746 00:44:52,900 --> 00:44:54,900 So he really totally believed in it 747 00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:58,233 to the point that he sacrificed his whole life to this cause. 748 00:44:58,333 --> 00:45:01,066 So I left, I was very... I was very impressed with him. 749 00:45:02,733 --> 00:45:04,500 NARRATOR: When the RAND report was presented 750 00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:07,533 to McNamara's top deputies at the Pentagon, 751 00:45:07,633 --> 00:45:10,633 describing the Viet Cong as a dedicated enemy 752 00:45:10,733 --> 00:45:14,200 that "could only be defeated at enormous cost," 753 00:45:14,300 --> 00:45:18,633 one senior official said, "If what you say is true, 754 00:45:18,733 --> 00:45:21,233 "we're fighting on the wrong side, 755 00:45:21,333 --> 00:45:24,300 the side that's going to lose this war." 756 00:45:27,733 --> 00:45:31,433 (Donovan's "Sunshine Superman" playing) 757 00:45:38,500 --> 00:45:45,600 DONOVAN: ♪ Sunshine came softly through my a-window today ♪ 758 00:45:45,700 --> 00:45:52,766 ♪ Could've tripped out easy a-but I've a-changed my ways. ♪ 759 00:45:52,866 --> 00:45:58,200 STUART HERRINGTON: The overall myth of an American army running roughshod 760 00:45:58,300 --> 00:46:03,533 by policy, by strategy, by tactics to terrorize and murder 761 00:46:03,633 --> 00:46:08,300 and victimize the innocent population of South Vietnam, 762 00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:10,000 that image is the... 763 00:46:10,100 --> 00:46:13,366 it-it doesn't do justice to the young men and women 764 00:46:13,466 --> 00:46:14,666 who served over there. 765 00:46:14,766 --> 00:46:17,600 It's certainly not an accurate depiction 766 00:46:17,700 --> 00:46:20,200 of what our army was about. 767 00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:25,200 NARRATOR: From the first, the Johnson administration understood 768 00:46:25,300 --> 00:46:27,133 that the war could not be won 769 00:46:27,233 --> 00:46:31,066 without convincing poor farmers living in the countryside 770 00:46:31,166 --> 00:46:34,933 that the government in Saigon, not the Viet Cong, 771 00:46:35,033 --> 00:46:39,566 had their best interests at heart. 772 00:46:39,666 --> 00:46:41,833 In addition to the military, 773 00:46:41,933 --> 00:46:44,966 many American aid organizations were at work 774 00:46:45,066 --> 00:46:46,766 in Vietnamese villages. 775 00:46:46,866 --> 00:46:49,666 They dug wells and built windmills, 776 00:46:49,766 --> 00:46:53,733 started schools, introduced improved rice, 777 00:46:53,833 --> 00:46:55,533 provided medical care, 778 00:46:55,633 --> 00:46:59,400 and electrified much of the countryside. 779 00:47:01,966 --> 00:47:04,800 Under pressure from Robert McNamara, 780 00:47:04,900 --> 00:47:08,633 MACV struggled to find ways to measure the progress 781 00:47:08,733 --> 00:47:13,100 of pacification in South Vietnam's 44 provinces, 782 00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:18,066 220 districts and 13,000 hamlets, 783 00:47:18,166 --> 00:47:23,333 and finally came up with the Hamlet Evaluation System. 784 00:47:23,433 --> 00:47:27,566 Soon some 220 U.S. district advisers 785 00:47:27,666 --> 00:47:31,433 were required to produce some 90,000 pages 786 00:47:31,533 --> 00:47:36,300 of data every month-- a mountain of information so daunting 787 00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:40,066 no one could make sense of it. 788 00:47:42,766 --> 00:47:45,600 PHILIP BRADY: Everything can be quantified. 789 00:47:45,700 --> 00:47:49,566 So you can literally say, "How pacified is this village?" 790 00:47:49,666 --> 00:47:52,700 "It's 37.5% pacified." 791 00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:55,000 Well, what does that mean? 792 00:47:55,100 --> 00:47:56,433 An American would tell you, 793 00:47:56,533 --> 00:47:59,866 "You know, we haven't had an incident in this village 794 00:47:59,966 --> 00:48:02,500 or this province," whatever. 795 00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:08,433 "The incident rate's going down, and therefore we're winning." 796 00:48:08,533 --> 00:48:11,133 But we would point out that certain troubled areas 797 00:48:11,233 --> 00:48:13,833 in the provinces that we were working in, 798 00:48:13,933 --> 00:48:17,133 we would say simply that it's not pacified 799 00:48:17,233 --> 00:48:21,033 unless you want to consider it pacified by the other side. 800 00:48:22,733 --> 00:48:25,066 HERRINGTON: To the extent that pacification was succeeding, 801 00:48:25,166 --> 00:48:28,233 schools were being built, wells were being cleaned. 802 00:48:28,333 --> 00:48:29,633 And then one fine night 803 00:48:29,733 --> 00:48:32,500 here comes 400 North Vietnamese soldiers into the village, 804 00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:35,433 executes the village chief, kidnaps 12 of the young people 805 00:48:35,533 --> 00:48:39,000 for, you know, service in the revolutionary armed forces, 806 00:48:39,100 --> 00:48:41,200 and the people look at the government and say, 807 00:48:41,300 --> 00:48:46,566 "You promised us you'd protect us, but you didn't stay." 808 00:48:51,933 --> 00:48:53,700 MIKE HEANEY: I was over there early. 809 00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:58,133 I was with a really good unit, who believed in Army traditions, 810 00:48:58,233 --> 00:48:59,833 they believed in honor, 811 00:48:59,933 --> 00:49:03,933 they believed even in treating your enemy humanely 812 00:49:04,033 --> 00:49:06,100 once he was a POW. 813 00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:10,633 NARRATOR: Lieutenant Mike Heaney from Basking Ridge, New Jersey, 814 00:49:10,733 --> 00:49:13,800 was a platoon leader in the 1st Cavalry Division. 815 00:49:13,900 --> 00:49:17,166 He'd arrived late in 1965 816 00:49:17,266 --> 00:49:20,266 and was assigned to a densely populated section 817 00:49:20,366 --> 00:49:21,600 of central Vietnam, 818 00:49:21,700 --> 00:49:23,800 where he found himself surrounded 819 00:49:23,900 --> 00:49:26,166 by North Vietnamese infiltrators 820 00:49:26,266 --> 00:49:29,800 and villagers whose loyalties were unclear. 821 00:49:30,900 --> 00:49:33,100 HEANEY: We never really figured out 822 00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:35,666 how to determine who the enemy was. 823 00:49:35,766 --> 00:49:40,633 Being normal, decent American boys, 824 00:49:40,733 --> 00:49:43,600 you don't just put your rifle up and take a shot at a guy 825 00:49:43,700 --> 00:49:44,866 and try to kill him 826 00:49:44,966 --> 00:49:48,733 unless you're pretty sure this is an enemy. 827 00:49:48,833 --> 00:49:51,400 And if he wasn't armed, 828 00:49:51,500 --> 00:49:55,500 or wasn't menacing you in any way, we wouldn't shoot him. 829 00:49:57,166 --> 00:49:58,866 We'd go through a village 830 00:49:58,966 --> 00:50:01,400 in which there would be no people we could identify 831 00:50:01,500 --> 00:50:05,000 as enemy soldiers, and we'd find a big cache of rice. 832 00:50:05,100 --> 00:50:08,366 So the standing instructions were blow that up, burn it, 833 00:50:08,466 --> 00:50:10,233 destroy it, poison it, whatever. 834 00:50:10,333 --> 00:50:13,966 We really didn't want to do that because it... 835 00:50:14,066 --> 00:50:16,300 You didn't have to be a rocket scientist to look around 836 00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:17,933 and see these people are depending on this. 837 00:50:18,033 --> 00:50:18,966 This is their food. 838 00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:24,500 We were told sometimes to burn thatched dwellings. 839 00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:25,933 And guys would unenthusiastically 840 00:50:26,033 --> 00:50:28,166 try to light a roof. 841 00:50:28,266 --> 00:50:30,000 And as soon as the flame burned out, 842 00:50:30,100 --> 00:50:32,500 they weren't going to try again. 843 00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:35,900 Our hearts really weren't in trying to destroy 844 00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:38,200 civilian food, civilian homes. 845 00:50:38,300 --> 00:50:41,433 It gave us an uneasy feeling about, 846 00:50:41,533 --> 00:50:43,266 "What is this war is about?" 847 00:50:46,066 --> 00:50:47,633 (gunfire) 848 00:50:47,733 --> 00:50:49,733 NARRATOR: Most of the fighting in Vietnam 849 00:50:49,833 --> 00:50:52,400 was the kind Mike Heaney was about to see-- 850 00:50:52,500 --> 00:50:58,266 small-scale, close-up, and initiated by the elusive enemy. 851 00:50:59,733 --> 00:51:02,466 The military called it "contact." 852 00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:09,633 "War is hell," grunts liked to say, "but contact is a mother." 853 00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:18,966 HEANEY: The job of an infantry platoon usually is to try to scare up 854 00:51:19,066 --> 00:51:22,133 enemy infantry and take it down. 855 00:51:22,233 --> 00:51:26,700 Really, the tactic was we were acting as bait. 856 00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:28,833 And at some level we knew that. 857 00:51:28,933 --> 00:51:31,700 You know, go walk in the woods and draw fire. 858 00:51:33,466 --> 00:51:35,133 NARRATOR: Six months into his tour, 859 00:51:35,233 --> 00:51:37,933 Heaney undertook what he and his men thought 860 00:51:38,033 --> 00:51:39,700 would be an easy assignment: 861 00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:44,000 climb a slope not far from their base at An Khe 862 00:51:44,100 --> 00:51:47,733 and drive a small enemy mortar unit off a ridge line. 863 00:51:47,833 --> 00:51:52,533 HEANEY: As soon as we started out, we started to get some bad vibes. 864 00:51:52,633 --> 00:51:57,933 We found some boot prints in the mud 865 00:51:58,033 --> 00:52:00,633 at the edge of this landing zone, 866 00:52:00,733 --> 00:52:03,733 and a nice trail, a well-used trail going up the ridge. 867 00:52:03,833 --> 00:52:07,966 I remember talking to one of my squad leaders about this. 868 00:52:08,066 --> 00:52:12,233 And we were both sitting there, "Well, shit, this sucks." 869 00:52:13,433 --> 00:52:16,333 And all of a sudden the very point man, 870 00:52:16,433 --> 00:52:18,766 the first guy in the column, Sergeant Mays, 871 00:52:18,866 --> 00:52:22,333 without saying anything just put his M16 up to his shoulder 872 00:52:22,433 --> 00:52:23,866 and fired off a round. 873 00:52:23,966 --> 00:52:27,133 And he turned around and he said, "VC on the trail. 874 00:52:27,233 --> 00:52:28,966 VC on the trail." 875 00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:34,900 Before I had a chance to digest this, he went down, 876 00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:35,900 shot right through the chest. 877 00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:36,933 (bullet hitting) Boom! 878 00:52:38,366 --> 00:52:40,166 And all of a sudden 879 00:52:40,266 --> 00:52:44,133 what was a very well-laid ambush erupted. 880 00:52:45,433 --> 00:52:49,566 And it was so loud and so unexpected 881 00:52:49,666 --> 00:52:54,000 I was stunned for... for a little bit, you know. 882 00:52:54,100 --> 00:52:55,766 "What the fuck is going on?" 883 00:52:55,866 --> 00:52:59,700 NARRATOR: Heaney's radio operator, Private Terry Carpenter, 884 00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:02,233 got the company commander on the line. 885 00:53:02,333 --> 00:53:05,500 "We've run into something bad," Heaney said. 886 00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:10,500 At that moment, a bullet hit Carpenter in the head. 887 00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:12,100 HEANEY: I knew Terry was down. 888 00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:14,100 I knew Sergeant Mays was down. 889 00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:16,600 I had asked the first machine gun crew to come up 890 00:53:16,700 --> 00:53:18,400 and start laying down machine gun fire. 891 00:53:18,500 --> 00:53:20,933 They got blown away pretty quickly. 892 00:53:21,033 --> 00:53:24,400 They never really had a chance to lay down much fire. 893 00:53:24,500 --> 00:53:26,233 At that point there wasn't anybody left 894 00:53:26,333 --> 00:53:28,200 in my forward unit. 895 00:53:28,300 --> 00:53:31,200 Every one of them had been taken down except me. 896 00:53:31,300 --> 00:53:33,066 Every one. 897 00:53:33,166 --> 00:53:35,466 (voice breaking): Every one had been killed 898 00:53:35,566 --> 00:53:37,666 or mortally wounded at that point. 899 00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:43,366 NARRATOR: Night fell. 900 00:53:43,466 --> 00:53:45,433 What was left of Heaney's company braced 901 00:53:45,533 --> 00:53:49,233 for the assault they assumed would come at dawn. 902 00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:52,400 I was lying there on the perimeter. 903 00:53:52,500 --> 00:53:54,666 I was right next to a dead enemy soldier. 904 00:53:54,766 --> 00:53:57,500 It was kind of my face and his feet 905 00:53:57,600 --> 00:53:59,200 and I kept looking back at him, 906 00:53:59,300 --> 00:54:01,833 because I couldn't see any wounds on him. 907 00:54:01,933 --> 00:54:04,366 And, you know, the strange things you think, 908 00:54:04,466 --> 00:54:06,133 "This guy's going to kill me. 909 00:54:06,233 --> 00:54:07,533 "He's faking it. 910 00:54:07,633 --> 00:54:08,833 "He's waiting until the assault, 911 00:54:08,933 --> 00:54:10,933 then he's going to jump up and kill me." 912 00:54:11,033 --> 00:54:12,533 And I almost shot him again. 913 00:54:12,633 --> 00:54:14,300 Just to make sure he was dead. 914 00:54:15,833 --> 00:54:18,100 NARRATOR: Then the enemy began to lob mortar shells 915 00:54:18,200 --> 00:54:20,466 among Heaney's men. 916 00:54:20,566 --> 00:54:22,666 HEANEY: I felt like somebody had taken a bat 917 00:54:22,766 --> 00:54:26,900 and hit me on my calf, my right calf, as hard as he could. 918 00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:32,000 I was so stunned by the shock of being hit, 919 00:54:32,100 --> 00:54:37,233 and I just drew in a deep breath of air in terrible pain. 920 00:54:37,333 --> 00:54:39,633 I couldn't speak. 921 00:54:39,733 --> 00:54:42,566 Right after the ambush happened, 922 00:54:42,666 --> 00:54:44,533 and I knew I'd lost a bunch of guys, 923 00:54:44,633 --> 00:54:48,833 I said a prayer to God saying, basically, 924 00:54:48,933 --> 00:54:51,466 "If you need any more guys from my platoon, take me. 925 00:54:51,566 --> 00:54:53,500 Don't take any more of my men." 926 00:54:53,600 --> 00:54:56,933 As soon as I said it, I freaked myself out and said, 927 00:54:57,033 --> 00:55:00,733 "Holy shit, can I take that prayer back?" 928 00:55:00,833 --> 00:55:01,866 But it was too late. 929 00:55:01,966 --> 00:55:03,433 I'd-I'd said it. 930 00:55:03,533 --> 00:55:04,866 And as it turns out, 931 00:55:04,966 --> 00:55:08,566 not one more man in my platoon died after that prayer. 932 00:55:10,133 --> 00:55:14,400 NARRATOR: American artillery finally zeroed in on the enemy. 933 00:55:14,500 --> 00:55:17,333 The survivors of Heaney's company stumbled down the hill 934 00:55:17,433 --> 00:55:19,133 to safety. 935 00:55:19,233 --> 00:55:22,133 He was carried to a hospital. 936 00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:32,866 HEANEY: I was lying on my bed sobbing. 937 00:55:32,966 --> 00:55:35,300 And this nurse came over. 938 00:55:35,400 --> 00:55:37,000 She bent over and said, "Lieutenant... 939 00:55:37,100 --> 00:55:39,500 "You... the-the your men are all over the place. 940 00:55:39,600 --> 00:55:41,666 You've gotta stop crying." 941 00:55:41,766 --> 00:55:44,533 And at that point my platoon sergeant, 942 00:55:44,633 --> 00:55:48,000 huge black guy from Detroit whom I loved dearly, 943 00:55:48,100 --> 00:55:51,600 Sergeant Sam Hunt, he came over and he sat down next to me 944 00:55:51,700 --> 00:55:53,200 (voice breaking): and he took my hand 945 00:55:53,300 --> 00:55:54,666 and he said to this nurse, 946 00:55:54,766 --> 00:55:56,400 "Ma'am, this here lieutenant 947 00:55:56,500 --> 00:55:58,500 don't have to stop doing anything." 948 00:56:02,866 --> 00:56:07,500 LE CONG HUAN: 949 00:56:46,900 --> 00:56:50,233 (crowd shouting angrily) 950 00:56:50,333 --> 00:56:52,000 JOHN LAURENCE: The students are angry now. 951 00:56:52,100 --> 00:56:53,633 And the word is passed 952 00:56:53,733 --> 00:56:57,100 to gather at Saigon's main Buddhist pagoda after dark. 953 00:56:59,166 --> 00:57:00,533 JOHN QUINN: After all these years, 954 00:57:00,633 --> 00:57:04,000 the Vietnamese have learned to live with crises and war. 955 00:57:04,100 --> 00:57:07,366 But they haven't learned yet to live as a nation. 956 00:57:08,800 --> 00:57:11,066 JOHNSON: Now, Dean, what are we going to do? 957 00:57:11,166 --> 00:57:15,033 Are we moving to the point where it would be difficult for us 958 00:57:15,133 --> 00:57:16,933 to ask people to continue to die out there, 959 00:57:17,033 --> 00:57:19,966 this kind of stuff going on every two or three months? 960 00:57:20,066 --> 00:57:21,900 DEAN RUSK: I think not yet, sir, by any means. 961 00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:25,233 I think that this is still a minority problem. 962 00:57:25,333 --> 00:57:28,233 But political talk is not going to be able to get anywhere 963 00:57:28,333 --> 00:57:30,200 if they don't maintain the elements of order. 964 00:57:34,266 --> 00:57:37,100 NARRATOR: On May 15, 1966, 965 00:57:37,200 --> 00:57:40,333 the government of South Vietnam, the country for which 966 00:57:40,433 --> 00:57:42,933 so many Americans were risking their lives, 967 00:57:43,033 --> 00:57:45,800 again seemed on the brink of collapse. 968 00:57:48,233 --> 00:57:51,866 The ascendancy of Prime Minister Ky had dealt a severe blow 969 00:57:51,966 --> 00:57:54,633 to activist Buddhists, who had been demanding 970 00:57:54,733 --> 00:57:58,433 representative government and a negotiated end to the war 971 00:57:58,533 --> 00:58:00,733 since 1963. 972 00:58:00,833 --> 00:58:04,833 When Ky suddenly fired a rival general, 973 00:58:04,933 --> 00:58:06,666 a popular Buddhist commander, 974 00:58:06,766 --> 00:58:12,033 demonstrators poured into the streets of Hue and Danang. 975 00:58:12,133 --> 00:58:14,400 They shut down the port 976 00:58:14,500 --> 00:58:16,700 through which U.S. supplies had been flowing. 977 00:58:18,800 --> 00:58:22,766 Some South Vietnamese soldiers, loyal to the dismissed general, 978 00:58:22,866 --> 00:58:25,400 abandoned the struggle against the communists 979 00:58:25,500 --> 00:58:27,933 and headed for the city. 980 00:58:28,033 --> 00:58:31,400 Angry crowds burned American jeeps. 981 00:58:31,500 --> 00:58:35,533 Signs reading "Peace!" and "Americans Go Home!" 982 00:58:35,633 --> 00:58:37,333 appeared everywhere. 983 00:58:37,433 --> 00:58:40,600 President Johnson was so concerned, 984 00:58:40,700 --> 00:58:44,266 he asked his advisors to ready a fallback position 985 00:58:44,366 --> 00:58:46,366 if the Ky government fell. 986 00:58:46,466 --> 00:58:50,066 If necessary, he said, the U.S. should be prepared 987 00:58:50,166 --> 00:58:52,633 to get out of Vietnam and perhaps 988 00:58:52,733 --> 00:58:57,033 make a stand against communism in Thailand instead. 989 00:58:59,200 --> 00:59:01,300 Ky ordered South Vietnamese soldiers 990 00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:04,066 to surround and subdue Danang, 991 00:59:04,166 --> 00:59:07,933 where they exchanged fire with their former comrades. 992 00:59:11,566 --> 00:59:16,866 As Ky's forces stormed Buddhist pagodas in Danang, 993 00:59:16,966 --> 00:59:20,033 his warplanes strafed dissident troops 994 00:59:20,133 --> 00:59:21,866 occupying the central market. 995 00:59:24,866 --> 00:59:26,600 The rebellion was crushed. 996 00:59:26,700 --> 00:59:29,600 Washington was relieved. 997 00:59:29,700 --> 00:59:33,466 Ky seemed to be back in control. 998 00:59:33,566 --> 00:59:37,866 But from his command post on a hilltop outside the city, 999 00:59:37,966 --> 00:59:41,366 an American Marine lieutenant had watched in disbelief 1000 00:59:41,466 --> 00:59:45,166 as two battles unfolded simultaneously: 1001 00:59:45,266 --> 00:59:50,433 in the west, his fellow Marines were fighting the Viet Cong; 1002 00:59:50,533 --> 00:59:54,233 in the east, the South Vietnamese army 1003 00:59:54,333 --> 00:59:57,166 seemed to be at war with itself. 1004 01:00:02,100 --> 01:00:04,833 (Simon and Garfunkel's "The Sound of Silence" playing) 1005 01:00:04,933 --> 01:00:07,933 ♪ Hello darkness, my old friend. ♪ 1006 01:00:08,033 --> 01:00:10,966 MOGIE CROCKER (dramatized): May 16, 1966. 1007 01:00:11,066 --> 01:00:13,566 Dear Mom and Dad-- 1008 01:00:13,666 --> 01:00:15,600 Our operation here on the Cambodian border 1009 01:00:15,700 --> 01:00:17,900 has been quite a success. 1010 01:00:18,000 --> 01:00:20,266 No doubt you will hear about it on the news. 1011 01:00:21,633 --> 01:00:23,866 We keep getting more and more operations thrown at us 1012 01:00:23,966 --> 01:00:26,000 so that nothing is very sure. 1013 01:00:26,100 --> 01:00:30,800 SIMON AND GARFUNKEL: ♪ ...that was planted in my brain still remains. ♪ 1014 01:00:30,900 --> 01:00:33,766 CROCKER: Whether I will go out again soon I don't know, 1015 01:00:33,866 --> 01:00:35,266 but don't plan on steady mail. 1016 01:00:38,533 --> 01:00:40,800 Tell Randy I'm looking forward to seeing his new dog. 1017 01:00:44,100 --> 01:00:47,100 I may take a 15-day leave to Tokyo 1018 01:00:47,200 --> 01:00:49,033 to keep from cracking up. 1019 01:00:49,133 --> 01:00:51,766 SIMON AND GARFUNKEL: ♪ 'Neath the halo of a street lamp. ♪ 1020 01:00:51,866 --> 01:00:53,733 JEAN-MARIE CROCKER: It was a lovely spring day, 1021 01:00:53,833 --> 01:00:56,966 and I opened the letter that said that. 1022 01:00:57,066 --> 01:00:59,933 And I was just really devastated 1023 01:01:00,033 --> 01:01:04,200 because by that time Vietnam was in total chaos. 1024 01:01:04,300 --> 01:01:06,733 There was a continuing changeover 1025 01:01:06,833 --> 01:01:10,900 of people in authority at the government in South Vietnam. 1026 01:01:11,000 --> 01:01:14,533 And there were protests of the Buddhist monks and others 1027 01:01:14,633 --> 01:01:15,833 that... 1028 01:01:15,933 --> 01:01:17,866 there were anti-American demonstrations. 1029 01:01:17,966 --> 01:01:20,666 I just thought, "Why? Why are we there?" 1030 01:01:22,400 --> 01:01:24,300 CAROL CROCKER: I think that letter when my brother 1031 01:01:24,400 --> 01:01:27,000 showed a kind of despair 1032 01:01:27,100 --> 01:01:30,366 is probably the first time he'd expressed that openly 1033 01:01:30,466 --> 01:01:33,266 to the whole family. 1034 01:01:36,900 --> 01:01:41,366 It echoed back to the day he'd said to me, 1035 01:01:41,466 --> 01:01:43,000 "I don't want to go back." 1036 01:01:44,500 --> 01:01:46,300 NARRATOR: To an old high school friend, 1037 01:01:46,400 --> 01:01:50,366 Mogie was even more forthcoming. 1038 01:01:50,466 --> 01:01:53,066 MOGIE CROCKER (dramatized): Dear Duff, 1039 01:01:53,166 --> 01:01:55,500 Since I last wrote, which is several months, 1040 01:01:55,600 --> 01:01:57,700 a number of exciting but terribly unpleasant events 1041 01:01:57,800 --> 01:02:01,600 have occurred, the worst of which was being pinned down 1042 01:02:01,700 --> 01:02:03,133 by two Chinese light machine guns 1043 01:02:03,233 --> 01:02:05,733 firing 900 rounds per minute 1044 01:02:05,833 --> 01:02:08,533 and having my best friend killed more or less beside me. 1045 01:02:10,700 --> 01:02:12,266 Someday I may tell you the whole story 1046 01:02:12,366 --> 01:02:15,200 if my nerves aren't completely gone by then. 1047 01:02:15,300 --> 01:02:18,600 Actually the latter is just wishful thinking, 1048 01:02:18,700 --> 01:02:22,966 in false hope they will take me off the line. 1049 01:02:23,066 --> 01:02:26,966 I was fantastically religious for a while, 1050 01:02:27,066 --> 01:02:30,233 sending up various and sundry prayers mainly concerned 1051 01:02:30,333 --> 01:02:33,300 with trying to stay alive, 1052 01:02:33,400 --> 01:02:37,933 but I am once again an atheist until the shooting starts. 1053 01:02:43,633 --> 01:02:45,566 (gunfire) 1054 01:02:50,900 --> 01:02:54,966 (drums playing up-tempo march cadence) 1055 01:02:55,066 --> 01:02:56,600 HARRISON: I really believed 1056 01:02:56,700 --> 01:03:01,000 that we had to stop the communist expansion. 1057 01:03:01,100 --> 01:03:06,166 I also believed that we were on the side of the angels. 1058 01:03:06,266 --> 01:03:08,733 Just as France had provided us with support 1059 01:03:08,833 --> 01:03:11,866 during our revolution, we were providing the South Vietnamese 1060 01:03:11,966 --> 01:03:14,100 with support during their revolution. 1061 01:03:14,200 --> 01:03:17,800 NARRATOR: Matthew Harrison was among the 300 graduates 1062 01:03:17,900 --> 01:03:22,466 of the class of 1966 who volunteered to go to Vietnam. 1063 01:03:22,566 --> 01:03:23,466 MAN: Rangers! 1064 01:03:23,566 --> 01:03:24,600 MEN: Rangers! 1065 01:03:24,700 --> 01:03:26,366 MAN: All the way! MEN: All the way! 1066 01:03:26,466 --> 01:03:29,966 NARRATOR: But first, he went to Florida to become a Ranger 1067 01:03:30,066 --> 01:03:32,766 and endured nine weeks of the most demanding training 1068 01:03:32,866 --> 01:03:34,766 the Army had to offer. 1069 01:03:34,866 --> 01:03:37,366 MAN: Airborne daddy gonna take a little trip! 1070 01:03:37,466 --> 01:03:40,033 MEN: Airborne daddy gonna take a little trip! 1071 01:03:40,133 --> 01:03:43,733 NARRATOR: The man in charge was Major Charles A. Beckwith-- 1072 01:03:43,833 --> 01:03:45,200 Chargin' Charlie-- 1073 01:03:45,300 --> 01:03:48,466 hero of the siege of Plei Me the year before. 1074 01:03:48,566 --> 01:03:53,000 "If a man is bloody stupid," he told each group of newcomers, 1075 01:03:53,100 --> 01:03:56,400 "his mother will receive a telegram and it will say, 1076 01:03:56,500 --> 01:03:59,266 "'Your son is dead because he's stupid.' 1077 01:03:59,366 --> 01:04:04,666 "Let's hope your telegram only reads, 'Your son is dead.' 1078 01:04:04,766 --> 01:04:07,800 "With the training we're going to give you here, 1079 01:04:07,900 --> 01:04:11,800 "maybe your mother won't receive any telegram at all. 1080 01:04:11,900 --> 01:04:13,800 So pay attention." 1081 01:04:15,100 --> 01:04:16,333 To make it through, 1082 01:04:16,433 --> 01:04:18,533 Harrison and his fellow trainees had to survive 1083 01:04:18,633 --> 01:04:23,000 days without sleep; were deprived of food and water, 1084 01:04:23,100 --> 01:04:27,066 forced to march up mountains until their feet bled 1085 01:04:27,166 --> 01:04:30,700 and patrol through swamps that harbored copperheads 1086 01:04:30,800 --> 01:04:32,033 and cottonmouths; 1087 01:04:32,133 --> 01:04:35,166 had to learn how to detect booby traps 1088 01:04:35,266 --> 01:04:40,400 and outmaneuver veterans masquerading as Viet Cong. 1089 01:04:40,500 --> 01:04:44,800 "Expect the unexpected," Beckwith told his trainees 1090 01:04:44,900 --> 01:04:46,533 again and again. 1091 01:04:46,633 --> 01:04:49,933 "Life is unfair." 1092 01:04:51,300 --> 01:04:53,300 Once he'd become a Ranger, Harrison was eager 1093 01:04:53,400 --> 01:04:57,200 to get to Vietnam and put into action 1094 01:04:57,300 --> 01:05:00,733 the survival and leadership skills he'd been absorbing 1095 01:05:00,833 --> 01:05:03,100 for five years. 1096 01:05:03,200 --> 01:05:06,133 HARRISON: I remember discussing with my classmates 1097 01:05:06,233 --> 01:05:08,633 how horrible it would be to serve in the Army 1098 01:05:08,733 --> 01:05:13,100 if everybody just a year ahead of us had served in combat 1099 01:05:13,200 --> 01:05:15,466 and we didn't have the opportunity to do that. 1100 01:05:15,566 --> 01:05:18,733 I was afraid we were going to win the war too quickly 1101 01:05:18,833 --> 01:05:21,533 and I wouldn't have a chance to experience it. 1102 01:05:29,733 --> 01:05:33,133 ("L'Assassinat De Carala" by Miles Davis playing) 1103 01:05:45,033 --> 01:05:50,866 NARRATOR: June 3, 1966, was Mogie Crocker's 19th birthday. 1104 01:05:50,966 --> 01:05:54,533 His company was involved in yet another campaign, 1105 01:05:54,633 --> 01:05:58,300 aimed at finding and killing North Vietnamese troops 1106 01:05:58,400 --> 01:06:02,933 filtering into the Central Highlands from Laos. 1107 01:06:03,033 --> 01:06:06,933 As night fell, Mogie and his squad were ordered 1108 01:06:07,033 --> 01:06:09,200 to move up toward the crest of a hill 1109 01:06:09,300 --> 01:06:12,633 overlooking a besieged ARVN outpost 1110 01:06:12,733 --> 01:06:14,800 so that artillery could be brought up 1111 01:06:14,900 --> 01:06:18,266 and positioned to shell the enemy in the morning. 1112 01:06:21,233 --> 01:06:25,066 They moved slowly, warily up the slope. 1113 01:06:25,166 --> 01:06:27,233 Mogie was the point man. 1114 01:06:30,233 --> 01:06:32,933 Out of the darkness, a machine gun opened up. 1115 01:06:33,033 --> 01:06:35,566 (gunfire) 1116 01:06:35,666 --> 01:06:40,333 Denton Crocker, Jr. never made it to the top of the hill. 1117 01:06:48,399 --> 01:06:50,100 ("One Too Many Mornings" by Bob Dylan playing) 1118 01:06:50,200 --> 01:06:52,399 DYLAN: ♪ Down the street the dogs are barkin' ♪ 1119 01:06:52,500 --> 01:06:56,166 ♪ And the day is a-gettin' dark. ♪ 1120 01:06:56,266 --> 01:06:59,766 JEAN-MARIE CROCKER: It was just a lovely day to be out in our garden. 1121 01:07:01,666 --> 01:07:05,500 Candy, our little girl, went to a birthday party. 1122 01:07:05,600 --> 01:07:08,833 And the other children were just around the house, I guess. 1123 01:07:08,933 --> 01:07:13,899 But shortly after lunchtime, I stepped out on the porch. 1124 01:07:18,166 --> 01:07:21,433 I saw two men in uniform coming to the house. 1125 01:07:24,100 --> 01:07:27,700 And I knew something terrible had happened. 1126 01:07:29,066 --> 01:07:30,666 And I ran down the steps. 1127 01:07:30,766 --> 01:07:33,333 And I just grabbed hold of one of them and said, 1128 01:07:33,433 --> 01:07:35,300 "Don't tell me. Don't say it. 1129 01:07:35,399 --> 01:07:37,966 Not my beautiful boy." 1130 01:07:38,066 --> 01:07:40,466 And he just said, "Yes." 1131 01:07:40,566 --> 01:07:42,433 DYLAN: ♪ From the crossroads of my doorstep ♪ 1132 01:07:42,533 --> 01:07:44,566 ♪ My eyes start to fade. 1133 01:07:44,666 --> 01:07:47,066 CAROL CROCKER: I was sitting on the couch in the living room. 1134 01:07:47,166 --> 01:07:51,066 I suddenly heard my mother screaming for my father. 1135 01:07:51,166 --> 01:07:55,100 Like in a movie, here came the priest up the stairs 1136 01:07:55,200 --> 01:07:57,600 with a soldier, and she's going, "Oh no." 1137 01:07:57,700 --> 01:08:01,399 And she's calling my dad. 1138 01:08:01,500 --> 01:08:04,266 My reaction was to leap up off the couch, 1139 01:08:04,366 --> 01:08:05,833 race out the back door 1140 01:08:05,933 --> 01:08:07,866 and I grabbed my little brother's hand 1141 01:08:07,966 --> 01:08:09,333 and I just started walking. 1142 01:08:09,433 --> 01:08:11,833 I said, "You have to come with me." 1143 01:08:11,933 --> 01:08:13,600 I said, "I have something to show you." 1144 01:08:13,700 --> 01:08:15,700 I have no idea where I was going. 1145 01:08:15,800 --> 01:08:20,533 I just said to myself, "No. 1146 01:08:20,633 --> 01:08:22,000 This isn't going to happen." 1147 01:08:22,100 --> 01:08:25,766 And something made me turn around 1148 01:08:25,866 --> 01:08:29,866 and I walked up to the back of the house from the alley. 1149 01:08:29,966 --> 01:08:32,833 And my dad was standing there. 1150 01:08:32,933 --> 01:08:36,466 And I fell into his arms and I said, 1151 01:08:36,566 --> 01:08:38,400 "Don't let it be true, Dad. 1152 01:08:40,766 --> 01:08:42,833 Is it true?" 1153 01:08:42,933 --> 01:08:44,500 And he said, "Yes." 1154 01:08:47,533 --> 01:08:50,733 I somehow knew that things had changed forever. 1155 01:08:52,433 --> 01:08:55,466 That my mom as my mom and my dad as my dad, 1156 01:08:55,566 --> 01:08:58,600 it was never going to be quite the same again. 1157 01:08:58,700 --> 01:09:00,600 I just, I remember sitting on the couch 1158 01:09:00,700 --> 01:09:02,700 and I put my arms around them and I said, 1159 01:09:02,800 --> 01:09:06,000 "We'll love each other and we'll be all right." 1160 01:09:06,100 --> 01:09:09,400 But I don't know how far it carried. 1161 01:09:09,500 --> 01:09:10,766 You know? 1162 01:09:10,866 --> 01:09:13,366 We all tried. 1163 01:09:13,466 --> 01:09:16,133 DYLAN: ♪ We're both just one too many mornings ♪ 1164 01:09:16,233 --> 01:09:19,233 ♪ And a thousand miles behind. 1165 01:09:19,333 --> 01:09:21,800 JEAN-MARIE CROCKER: Carol said to me one day 1166 01:09:21,900 --> 01:09:24,266 very shortly after Denton was killed, 1167 01:09:24,366 --> 01:09:29,066 probably that very day, "How can you believe in God?" 1168 01:09:29,166 --> 01:09:32,300 And I said, "Because we had Mogie." 1169 01:09:35,566 --> 01:09:40,166 And I think that his life was a real gift. 1170 01:09:40,266 --> 01:09:43,366 It was a privilege to have him. 1171 01:09:43,466 --> 01:09:44,633 A friend wrote to me, 1172 01:09:44,733 --> 01:09:48,400 "Our children are really only on loan to us," 1173 01:09:48,500 --> 01:09:50,400 which I guess is true. 1174 01:09:52,900 --> 01:09:56,666 NARRATOR: Ten days later, an Army captain escorted Mogie's body 1175 01:09:56,766 --> 01:09:59,033 to Dick Stone's funeral home. 1176 01:09:59,133 --> 01:10:02,033 The family priest had suggested 1177 01:10:02,133 --> 01:10:04,533 that Mogie be buried in Saratoga Springs 1178 01:10:04,633 --> 01:10:08,566 so that his parents could easily visit his grave. 1179 01:10:08,666 --> 01:10:13,400 But they chose Arlington National Cemetery instead. 1180 01:10:14,766 --> 01:10:19,000 "A corner of my heart knew," his mother remembered, 1181 01:10:19,100 --> 01:10:20,733 "that if he were buried near us, 1182 01:10:20,833 --> 01:10:25,533 I would want to claw the ground to retrieve the warmth of him." 1183 01:10:31,666 --> 01:10:33,000 (applause) 1184 01:10:33,100 --> 01:10:34,633 LYNDON JOHNSON: I hear my friends say, 1185 01:10:34,733 --> 01:10:37,066 "I am troubled," and "I am confused," 1186 01:10:37,166 --> 01:10:38,566 and "I am frustrated," 1187 01:10:38,666 --> 01:10:41,233 and all of us can understand those people. 1188 01:10:41,333 --> 01:10:44,300 Sometimes I almost develop a stomach ulcer myself, 1189 01:10:44,400 --> 01:10:46,466 just listening to them. 1190 01:10:46,566 --> 01:10:49,233 And we all wish the war would end. 1191 01:10:49,333 --> 01:10:51,466 We all wish the troops would come home. 1192 01:10:51,566 --> 01:10:54,766 There is no human being in all this world 1193 01:10:54,866 --> 01:10:58,533 who wishes these things to happen, 1194 01:10:58,633 --> 01:11:00,600 for peace to come to the world, 1195 01:11:00,700 --> 01:11:03,300 more than your president of the United States. 1196 01:11:03,400 --> 01:11:06,800 ("The Beginning of the End" by Nine Inch Nails playing) 1197 01:11:13,766 --> 01:11:15,666 NARRATOR: The military claimed to have killed 1198 01:11:15,766 --> 01:11:22,400 some 57,000 enemy soldiers in the first six months of 1966. 1199 01:11:22,500 --> 01:11:25,433 But privately the administration worried 1200 01:11:25,533 --> 01:11:28,433 that General Westmoreland's "crossover point"-- 1201 01:11:28,533 --> 01:11:31,766 the moment when more enemy soldiers had been killed 1202 01:11:31,866 --> 01:11:35,800 than could be replaced-- seemed no nearer. 1203 01:11:35,900 --> 01:11:39,600 From the first, the Joint Chiefs had urged the president 1204 01:11:39,700 --> 01:11:40,966 to be more aggressive-- 1205 01:11:41,066 --> 01:11:46,700 to permit troops to pursue the enemy into Laos and Cambodia 1206 01:11:46,800 --> 01:11:51,600 and to expand the target list for bombing in North Vietnam. 1207 01:11:51,700 --> 01:11:55,800 Johnson still would not allow borders to be crossed 1208 01:11:55,900 --> 01:11:59,266 by regular ground troops for fear of bringing China 1209 01:11:59,366 --> 01:12:02,866 or even the Soviet Union into the war. 1210 01:12:02,966 --> 01:12:05,633 And he was wary of heavier bombing, 1211 01:12:05,733 --> 01:12:08,666 fearful of hitting more civilians. 1212 01:12:08,766 --> 01:12:11,500 But despite his concern, 1213 01:12:11,600 --> 01:12:15,266 the president now agreed to intensify the bombing campaign 1214 01:12:15,366 --> 01:12:17,933 called Operation Rolling Thunder. 1215 01:12:18,033 --> 01:12:21,100 He approved attacks on oil facilities 1216 01:12:21,200 --> 01:12:23,433 all over North Vietnam, 1217 01:12:23,533 --> 01:12:26,433 including some sites adjacent to the cities 1218 01:12:26,533 --> 01:12:30,100 of Haiphong and Hanoi. 1219 01:12:30,200 --> 01:12:32,133 His commanders assured him 1220 01:12:32,233 --> 01:12:34,900 that this would be a mortal blow to the enemy, 1221 01:12:35,000 --> 01:12:37,733 sure to force the North Vietnamese 1222 01:12:37,833 --> 01:12:39,400 to the bargaining table. 1223 01:12:46,900 --> 01:12:50,633 Tens of thousands of sorties were flown. 1224 01:12:53,700 --> 01:12:56,933 Many bombs hit their intended targets. 1225 01:12:57,033 --> 01:12:59,100 But many missed 1226 01:12:59,200 --> 01:13:02,900 and fell on residential neighborhoods instead, 1227 01:13:03,000 --> 01:13:05,900 just as the president had feared. 1228 01:13:10,400 --> 01:13:13,566 JOHNSON: Things are going reasonably well in the South, aren't they? 1229 01:13:13,666 --> 01:13:15,833 McNAMARA: Yes, I think so. 1230 01:13:15,933 --> 01:13:18,366 Because we think we're taking a heavy toll of them, 1231 01:13:18,466 --> 01:13:21,133 but it just scares me to see what we're doing there 1232 01:13:21,233 --> 01:13:24,333 with God knows how many airplanes and helicopters 1233 01:13:24,433 --> 01:13:29,200 and firepower and going after a bunch of half-starved beggars. 1234 01:13:29,300 --> 01:13:31,466 This is what's going on in the South. 1235 01:13:31,566 --> 01:13:34,066 And the great danger is that, 1236 01:13:34,166 --> 01:13:38,766 that they can keep that up almost indefinitely. 1237 01:13:38,866 --> 01:13:40,733 The only thing that'll prevent it, Mr. President, 1238 01:13:40,833 --> 01:13:42,566 is their morale breaking. 1239 01:13:42,666 --> 01:13:45,066 There's no question but what the troops in the South, 1240 01:13:45,166 --> 01:13:46,700 the VC and North Vietnamese, 1241 01:13:46,800 --> 01:13:49,600 they know that we're bombing in the North. 1242 01:13:49,700 --> 01:13:51,200 And we just have a free rein. 1243 01:13:51,300 --> 01:13:52,800 And when they see they're getting killed 1244 01:13:52,900 --> 01:13:54,533 in such high rates in the South, 1245 01:13:54,633 --> 01:13:57,966 and they see that the supplies are less likely to come down 1246 01:13:58,066 --> 01:13:59,666 from the North, I think it will just hurt their morale 1247 01:13:59,766 --> 01:14:00,833 a little bit more. 1248 01:14:00,933 --> 01:14:02,200 And to me that's the only way to win 1249 01:14:02,300 --> 01:14:04,166 because we're not killing enough of them 1250 01:14:04,266 --> 01:14:07,400 to make it impossible for the North to continue to fight. 1251 01:14:07,500 --> 01:14:10,266 But we are killing enough to destroy the morale 1252 01:14:10,366 --> 01:14:11,766 of those people down there 1253 01:14:11,866 --> 01:14:13,933 if they think this is going to have to go on forever. 1254 01:14:15,766 --> 01:14:16,833 JOHNSON: All right. 1255 01:14:16,933 --> 01:14:18,766 Go ahead, Bob. 1256 01:14:23,600 --> 01:14:25,166 BAO NINH: 1257 01:14:43,900 --> 01:14:46,766 HO HUU LAN: 1258 01:15:04,266 --> 01:15:07,866 McPEAK: People talk about collateral damage, but it means something. 1259 01:15:09,500 --> 01:15:12,066 You don't want to do collateral damage. 1260 01:15:12,166 --> 01:15:15,266 You want to do the damage you want to do. 1261 01:15:15,366 --> 01:15:17,233 That's the winning way to do this. 1262 01:15:25,233 --> 01:15:28,400 (distant, echoing shouting) 1263 01:15:30,966 --> 01:15:33,233 EVERETT ALVAREZ: Even though I was in a cell by myself 1264 01:15:33,333 --> 01:15:36,100 and others were in by themselves, we weren't alone. 1265 01:15:36,200 --> 01:15:38,666 We were together in this old French prison 1266 01:15:38,766 --> 01:15:41,566 halfway around the world from the United States. 1267 01:15:41,666 --> 01:15:46,166 Gradually I began to realize this could go on a long time. 1268 01:15:46,266 --> 01:15:49,600 A long time to me was like maybe a year or two. 1269 01:15:49,700 --> 01:15:53,966 I never dreamed it would be eight-and-a-half years. 1270 01:15:54,066 --> 01:15:58,666 NARRATOR: By the summer of 1966, Lieutenant Everett Alvarez, 1271 01:15:58,766 --> 01:16:01,700 the first American pilot to have been shot down 1272 01:16:01,800 --> 01:16:06,133 over North Vietnam, had been a captive for nearly two years 1273 01:16:06,233 --> 01:16:09,100 and had been joined in and around Hanoi 1274 01:16:09,200 --> 01:16:12,300 by more than 100 other downed airmen. 1275 01:16:12,400 --> 01:16:16,266 Even though the North Vietnamese considered them all 1276 01:16:16,366 --> 01:16:19,633 "aggressors," "criminals," and "air pirates" 1277 01:16:19,733 --> 01:16:23,133 rather than prisoners of war deserving of humane treatment, 1278 01:16:23,233 --> 01:16:26,933 Alvarez and the others had been treated relatively well 1279 01:16:27,033 --> 01:16:28,266 at first. 1280 01:16:28,366 --> 01:16:31,366 But that hadn't lasted long. 1281 01:16:31,466 --> 01:16:35,266 The men were soon forbidden to communicate with one another, 1282 01:16:35,366 --> 01:16:37,733 forced to bow to their jailers, 1283 01:16:37,833 --> 01:16:41,166 and told that their country had forgotten them. 1284 01:16:41,266 --> 01:16:44,733 They were subjected to isolation, beatings, 1285 01:16:44,833 --> 01:16:47,366 and hour upon hour of torture, 1286 01:16:47,466 --> 01:16:51,066 all aimed at forcing them to admit their guilt 1287 01:16:51,166 --> 01:16:55,566 and record statements denouncing the war. 1288 01:16:55,666 --> 01:16:57,100 (door slams) 1289 01:16:57,200 --> 01:16:59,933 ALVAREZ: When that cell door would open, when they would say, 1290 01:17:00,033 --> 01:17:05,466 "You, your turn," you know, the bottom just fell out of you, 1291 01:17:05,566 --> 01:17:08,633 and you knew that you may not come back. 1292 01:17:08,733 --> 01:17:13,900 The manacles, the ropes, the beatings, they broke bones. 1293 01:17:14,000 --> 01:17:15,833 They... they did everything. 1294 01:17:17,400 --> 01:17:19,066 My arms turned black 1295 01:17:19,166 --> 01:17:22,333 from the cuffs that cut off all circulation. 1296 01:17:22,433 --> 01:17:24,200 And they didn't let me die. 1297 01:17:24,300 --> 01:17:26,400 They just kept the pain. 1298 01:17:26,500 --> 01:17:29,566 That's when I realized that I was not a superhuman. 1299 01:17:33,266 --> 01:17:38,600 The first time I broke and gave them something, I felt so low. 1300 01:17:38,700 --> 01:17:42,000 I felt so little. 1301 01:17:44,166 --> 01:17:46,800 NARRATOR: Some of the men who were forced to record statements 1302 01:17:46,900 --> 01:17:51,333 did their best to make their true feelings known back home. 1303 01:17:51,433 --> 01:17:55,366 Commander Jeremiah Denton blinked his eyes to spell out 1304 01:17:55,466 --> 01:17:57,866 "torture" in Morse code. 1305 01:18:05,400 --> 01:18:08,933 On July 6, just one week after American bombs 1306 01:18:09,033 --> 01:18:11,866 had first fallen on Hanoi and Haiphong, 1307 01:18:11,966 --> 01:18:16,333 jailers rounded up Alvarez and 51 other prisoners, 1308 01:18:16,433 --> 01:18:18,900 and, while cameras rolled, 1309 01:18:19,000 --> 01:18:21,500 marched them through downtown Hanoi, 1310 01:18:21,600 --> 01:18:24,933 past the angry citizens of the city. 1311 01:18:25,033 --> 01:18:27,400 ALVAREZ: I could hear the crowd being whipped up. 1312 01:18:27,500 --> 01:18:31,433 And as I passed this one fellow with the megaphone, 1313 01:18:31,533 --> 01:18:33,600 he looked at me and he yelled to the crowd. 1314 01:18:33,700 --> 01:18:36,766 "Alvarez, Alvarez, son of a bitch, son of a bitch!" 1315 01:18:36,866 --> 01:18:40,400 People started pressing in, throwing things-- 1316 01:18:40,500 --> 01:18:42,500 bottles, shoes. 1317 01:18:42,600 --> 01:18:44,766 But the guards by this time were having a hard time 1318 01:18:44,866 --> 01:18:47,266 keeping the people away. 1319 01:18:47,366 --> 01:18:50,200 NARRATOR: The North Vietnamese had hoped to rally 1320 01:18:50,300 --> 01:18:54,700 international support for trying the prisoners as war criminals. 1321 01:18:54,800 --> 01:18:56,700 It backfired. 1322 01:18:56,800 --> 01:19:01,033 People everywhere, even many of those who opposed the war, 1323 01:19:01,133 --> 01:19:05,166 sympathized with the stumbling, helpless men. 1324 01:19:06,533 --> 01:19:09,500 Plans for public trials were canceled. 1325 01:19:11,766 --> 01:19:16,300 The bombing continued, and more American planes were shot down. 1326 01:19:19,133 --> 01:19:23,666 The North Vietnamese took pride in capturing American airmen. 1327 01:19:23,766 --> 01:19:27,700 Even children were expected to do their part. 1328 01:19:27,800 --> 01:19:29,366 (call and response with teacher and children) 1329 01:19:29,466 --> 01:19:31,366 TEACHER: Hands up! Hand up! 1330 01:19:31,466 --> 01:19:34,000 TEACHER: 1331 01:19:34,100 --> 01:19:35,166 Hands up! 1332 01:19:35,266 --> 01:19:36,066 Hands up! 1333 01:19:36,166 --> 01:19:37,000 TEACHER: 1334 01:19:37,100 --> 01:19:38,066 Hands up! 1335 01:19:39,400 --> 01:19:41,633 McPEAK: The bombing around Hanoi and Haiphong 1336 01:19:41,733 --> 01:19:44,133 that resulted in so many of our people being POWs 1337 01:19:44,233 --> 01:19:45,366 for a long period of time 1338 01:19:45,466 --> 01:19:47,300 was fought out of the White House basement, 1339 01:19:47,400 --> 01:19:50,300 with the president himself picking targets, 1340 01:19:50,400 --> 01:19:52,200 and deciding that we're going to attack now, 1341 01:19:52,300 --> 01:19:54,333 and then we're going to pause for awhile. 1342 01:19:55,533 --> 01:20:00,133 Airpower was being misused, big time. 1343 01:20:03,566 --> 01:20:06,100 NARRATOR: Operation Rolling Thunder did destroy 1344 01:20:06,200 --> 01:20:10,633 most of North Vietnam's oil storage facilities. 1345 01:20:10,733 --> 01:20:13,633 But the North Vietnamese shifted 1346 01:20:13,733 --> 01:20:16,466 most of their oil to underground tanks, 1347 01:20:16,566 --> 01:20:22,400 and more arrived every day from China and the Soviet Union. 1348 01:20:25,566 --> 01:20:28,633 The bombing was stepped up anyway. 1349 01:20:30,633 --> 01:20:31,700 Throughout the North, 1350 01:20:31,800 --> 01:20:34,533 enough crude air shelters were fashioned 1351 01:20:34,633 --> 01:20:38,666 from concrete pipe buried five feet beneath the ground 1352 01:20:38,766 --> 01:20:41,733 to accommodate some 18 million people-- 1353 01:20:41,833 --> 01:20:45,100 virtually the entire population. 1354 01:20:45,200 --> 01:20:49,066 (workers singing in Vietnamese) 1355 01:20:49,166 --> 01:20:53,100 Over a million people were said to be working around the clock 1356 01:20:53,200 --> 01:20:55,866 to undo what American bombs had done. 1357 01:20:55,966 --> 01:20:58,600 When key bridges were destroyed, 1358 01:20:58,700 --> 01:21:01,100 they fashioned pontoon bridges overnight 1359 01:21:01,200 --> 01:21:02,966 to keep traffic moving. 1360 01:21:03,066 --> 01:21:07,833 Crews waited along the roads with heaps of gravel and stone 1361 01:21:07,933 --> 01:21:11,933 and stacks of wood to fill bomb craters. 1362 01:21:12,033 --> 01:21:18,100 They worked under the slogan "The enemy destroys, we repair. 1363 01:21:18,200 --> 01:21:22,833 The enemy destroys, we repair again." 1364 01:21:22,933 --> 01:21:27,700 (workers continue singing) 1365 01:21:29,200 --> 01:21:31,566 WILLBANKS: Rolling Thunder was the dumbest campaign 1366 01:21:31,666 --> 01:21:34,000 ever devised by a human being. 1367 01:21:34,100 --> 01:21:36,266 The normal human thing to do 1368 01:21:36,366 --> 01:21:38,900 is to think that your enemy thinks like you. 1369 01:21:39,000 --> 01:21:41,900 There's the old story, apocryphal, 1370 01:21:42,000 --> 01:21:43,766 that when McNamara wants to know 1371 01:21:43,866 --> 01:21:46,866 what Ho Chi Minh is thinking, he interviews himself. 1372 01:21:46,966 --> 01:21:49,733 What the problem then becomes is 1373 01:21:49,833 --> 01:21:53,466 that you keep trying to send messages that are rational 1374 01:21:53,566 --> 01:21:55,900 based upon your judgment of rationality, 1375 01:21:56,000 --> 01:21:59,266 but have nothing to do with the definition of rationality 1376 01:21:59,366 --> 01:22:00,800 on the other side. 1377 01:22:02,100 --> 01:22:04,133 So what's irrational to us 1378 01:22:04,233 --> 01:22:06,033 is totally rational to the other side 1379 01:22:06,133 --> 01:22:10,833 if you've decided that you are going to reunify the Vietnams 1380 01:22:10,933 --> 01:22:15,300 no matter what it takes, no matter how many casualties. 1381 01:22:18,966 --> 01:22:21,833 NARRATOR: Hanoi did all it could to publicize the damage 1382 01:22:21,933 --> 01:22:25,200 American bombs were doing to civilians. 1383 01:22:25,300 --> 01:22:30,466 Most Americans dismissed the reports as communist propaganda. 1384 01:22:32,600 --> 01:22:35,833 But when Harrison Salisbury of theNew York Times 1385 01:22:35,933 --> 01:22:41,600 traveled to North Vietnam and reported on Christmas Day, 1966, 1386 01:22:41,700 --> 01:22:42,966 what he had seen, 1387 01:22:43,066 --> 01:22:47,266 public doubts about the morality of the war grew. 1388 01:22:48,700 --> 01:22:51,266 GELB: A lot of the military we talked to 1389 01:22:51,366 --> 01:22:55,666 shared our concerns about how the war was being fought, 1390 01:22:55,766 --> 01:22:58,100 and whether or not it could be won. 1391 01:22:58,200 --> 01:23:01,200 But when it came to an official position, 1392 01:23:01,300 --> 01:23:04,166 it was what we know well, 1393 01:23:04,266 --> 01:23:07,200 namely, "We can win this war and we're doing it right. 1394 01:23:07,300 --> 01:23:11,866 We just need more-- more troops, more bombing." 1395 01:23:18,066 --> 01:23:22,600 WILSON: I recall on one instance after I had returned from Vietnam, 1396 01:23:22,700 --> 01:23:26,366 I went by to see McNamara. 1397 01:23:28,333 --> 01:23:32,766 He was saying, "Well, how is our strategic bombing program 1398 01:23:32,866 --> 01:23:35,333 affecting the course of the war?" 1399 01:23:36,533 --> 01:23:41,133 I said, "It is not gaining us anything. 1400 01:23:41,233 --> 01:23:44,933 Indeed, it is counterproductive." 1401 01:23:46,500 --> 01:23:47,800 He said, "What do you mean?" 1402 01:23:50,466 --> 01:23:56,700 "Mr. Secretary, the sledgehammer approach is not working. 1403 01:23:56,800 --> 01:23:59,800 "These people know that at some point 1404 01:23:59,900 --> 01:24:02,466 "we're going to get tired of killing them. 1405 01:24:02,566 --> 01:24:04,933 And they think they can outlast us." 1406 01:24:05,033 --> 01:24:09,633 And he said, "Why don't people tell me these things?" 1407 01:24:12,233 --> 01:24:15,666 I said, "Mr. Secretary, you don't ask." 1408 01:24:15,766 --> 01:24:19,066 ("I Am a Rock" by Simon and Garfunkel playing) 1409 01:24:19,166 --> 01:24:21,300 CRAIG McNAMARA: I think every father and son 1410 01:24:21,400 --> 01:24:27,166 struggles in the course of their lives together. 1411 01:24:27,266 --> 01:24:31,266 SIMON AND GARFUNKEL: ♪ In a deep and dark December 1412 01:24:31,366 --> 01:24:36,700 CRAIG McNAMARA: And I don't think my dad and I were exempt from that. 1413 01:24:36,800 --> 01:24:39,400 The interesting thing for me is 1414 01:24:39,500 --> 01:24:43,066 the space to talk about Vietnam was never created. 1415 01:24:43,166 --> 01:24:47,133 And that was clearly a decision on my father's part. 1416 01:24:47,233 --> 01:24:49,033 SIMON AND GARFUNKEL: ♪ I am a rock. 1417 01:24:49,133 --> 01:24:52,600 NARRATOR: Craig McNamara, the son of the Secretary of Defense, 1418 01:24:52,700 --> 01:24:54,833 was a student at St. Paul's School 1419 01:24:54,933 --> 01:24:56,566 in Concord, New Hampshire, 1420 01:24:56,666 --> 01:25:00,866 where a teach-in about the war was to be held. 1421 01:25:00,966 --> 01:25:04,366 I remember calling my father from a phone booth and saying, 1422 01:25:04,466 --> 01:25:06,633 "Dad, we're going to have this experience 1423 01:25:06,733 --> 01:25:08,466 "and if there's any support materials 1424 01:25:08,566 --> 01:25:13,833 that you think I should present, please let me know." 1425 01:25:15,333 --> 01:25:18,066 The support materials didn't come. 1426 01:25:18,166 --> 01:25:22,233 I think my father really wanted lovingly to protect me 1427 01:25:22,333 --> 01:25:25,500 from the Vietnam experience to the best of his ability. 1428 01:25:25,600 --> 01:25:27,333 Well, we know you can't do that. 1429 01:25:27,433 --> 01:25:31,500 Things bleed through and it just doesn't happen that way. 1430 01:25:31,600 --> 01:25:34,133 Probably, he realized at that time 1431 01:25:34,233 --> 01:25:39,066 that the support materials... weren't there. 1432 01:25:44,833 --> 01:25:47,100 ROBERT McNAMARA: Today I can tell you that military progress 1433 01:25:47,200 --> 01:25:51,800 in the past 12 months has exceeded our expectations. 1434 01:25:51,900 --> 01:25:53,800 The Viet Cong have been unable to mount 1435 01:25:53,900 --> 01:25:56,033 the offensive that they had planned 1436 01:25:56,133 --> 01:26:00,733 designed to cut the country in half at its narrow waist. 1437 01:26:00,833 --> 01:26:02,800 The military pressure, 1438 01:26:02,900 --> 01:26:04,966 which forces have brought against them, 1439 01:26:05,066 --> 01:26:06,500 have prevented them from mounting that offensive 1440 01:26:06,600 --> 01:26:09,966 and have inflicted very heavy casualties on them. 1441 01:26:10,066 --> 01:26:11,700 No matter how you measure it, 1442 01:26:11,800 --> 01:26:15,366 we're better off than we thought we would be at this time. 1443 01:26:16,833 --> 01:26:18,433 ("Ain't Too Proud To Beg" by the Temptations playing) 1444 01:26:18,533 --> 01:26:21,233 ♪ I know you want to leave me... ♪ 1445 01:26:21,333 --> 01:26:23,066 EHRHART: Certainly when I arrived, I'm thinking 1446 01:26:23,166 --> 01:26:25,166 I'm involved in a winning enterprise. 1447 01:26:25,266 --> 01:26:27,033 I mean, America doesn't lose. 1448 01:26:27,133 --> 01:26:29,066 We never lose. 1449 01:26:29,166 --> 01:26:33,033 I had sort of not really known much about the War of 1812, 1450 01:26:33,133 --> 01:26:36,566 which was... pretty much of a draw, 1451 01:26:36,666 --> 01:26:39,866 or the Civil War in which half of America lost, 1452 01:26:39,966 --> 01:26:43,100 and the Korean War where we won the first half 1453 01:26:43,200 --> 01:26:44,300 and lost the second half. 1454 01:26:44,400 --> 01:26:47,100 But I'd been taught America never loses. 1455 01:26:47,200 --> 01:26:51,233 NARRATOR: The Marines had been the first American combat troops 1456 01:26:51,333 --> 01:26:53,333 to fight in Vietnam. 1457 01:26:53,433 --> 01:26:55,866 And they were expected to fight longer 1458 01:26:55,966 --> 01:27:00,366 than their Army counterparts-- 13 months instead of 12. 1459 01:27:02,333 --> 01:27:04,166 Marine privates Bill Ehrhart, 1460 01:27:04,266 --> 01:27:08,866 John Musgrave, and Roger Harris all arrived at Danang 1461 01:27:08,966 --> 01:27:11,466 in early 1967. 1462 01:27:11,566 --> 01:27:15,733 MUSGRAVE: The first thing that assaulted my nose was the foreign smells. 1463 01:27:15,833 --> 01:27:18,166 And watching people relieve themselves 1464 01:27:18,266 --> 01:27:19,733 by the side of the road 1465 01:27:19,833 --> 01:27:22,633 and seeing animals I'd never seen before-- 1466 01:27:22,733 --> 01:27:24,633 the big water buffaloes. 1467 01:27:24,733 --> 01:27:27,133 You know, it was like being on Mars, 1468 01:27:27,233 --> 01:27:30,933 because it was totally foreign to me. 1469 01:27:31,033 --> 01:27:35,700 But I honestly, in my dumb Missouri kid kind of way, 1470 01:27:35,800 --> 01:27:38,200 I thought, "Look at all those foreigners." 1471 01:27:38,300 --> 01:27:40,733 And it didn't dawn on me for a little while 1472 01:27:40,833 --> 01:27:44,033 that the only foreigner in that area was me. 1473 01:27:45,900 --> 01:27:49,633 HARRIS: The feeling was that we were going over to rescue folks. 1474 01:27:49,733 --> 01:27:52,800 And that the communists were taking over this country 1475 01:27:52,900 --> 01:27:54,900 and they needed help. 1476 01:27:55,000 --> 01:27:57,533 But then when we got there we realized that... 1477 01:27:57,633 --> 01:27:59,766 that it wasn't exactly like that, you know. 1478 01:27:59,866 --> 01:28:02,166 Many of the Vietnamese, they would spit at our trucks 1479 01:28:02,266 --> 01:28:04,166 and they'd tell us to go back to America. 1480 01:28:04,266 --> 01:28:05,800 And then, you know, we began questioning ourselves, 1481 01:28:05,900 --> 01:28:07,133 you know, why are we here? 1482 01:28:08,566 --> 01:28:10,333 These people don't want us here. 1483 01:28:12,433 --> 01:28:16,366 NARRATOR: Roger Harris was assigned to G Company, 2nd Battalion, 1484 01:28:16,466 --> 01:28:20,466 9th Regiment of the 3rd Marine Division at Phu Bai, 1485 01:28:20,566 --> 01:28:22,766 outside of Hue. 1486 01:28:22,866 --> 01:28:24,933 John Musgrave was first stationed 1487 01:28:25,033 --> 01:28:29,233 with the 1st Marine Division at the Danang Airbase. 1488 01:28:29,333 --> 01:28:31,900 And Bill Ehrhart joined the 1st Regiment 1489 01:28:32,000 --> 01:28:35,300 of the 1st Marine Division near the city of Hoi An. 1490 01:28:37,933 --> 01:28:39,900 Private Ehrhart was given a desk job, 1491 01:28:40,000 --> 01:28:42,100 collating snippets of information 1492 01:28:42,200 --> 01:28:44,366 for the daily intelligence summary. 1493 01:28:46,600 --> 01:28:48,733 Three days after he got to Hoi An, 1494 01:28:48,833 --> 01:28:54,000 a group of civilian detainees was brought into the compound. 1495 01:28:54,100 --> 01:28:57,533 EHRHART: These two amtracs come in the back gate. 1496 01:28:57,633 --> 01:29:00,066 The Marines up top start pushing them off. 1497 01:29:00,166 --> 01:29:01,700 Their hands are tied, their feet are tied, 1498 01:29:01,800 --> 01:29:03,500 they have no way to break their fall. 1499 01:29:03,600 --> 01:29:08,366 You literally can hear bones snapping, shoulders dislocate. 1500 01:29:08,466 --> 01:29:11,466 And I grab Corporal Sal, 1501 01:29:11,566 --> 01:29:14,566 and he says in the absolute flattest, hollowest voice 1502 01:29:14,666 --> 01:29:16,066 I've ever heard, 1503 01:29:16,166 --> 01:29:20,400 "Ehrhart, you better keep your mouth shut and your eyes open 1504 01:29:20,500 --> 01:29:22,766 "till you understand what's going on around here. 1505 01:29:22,866 --> 01:29:25,266 "Those trackers, they're hitting mines out there 1506 01:29:25,366 --> 01:29:27,200 "on the sand flats every day. 1507 01:29:27,300 --> 01:29:29,333 "They're getting killed; they're getting maimed. 1508 01:29:29,433 --> 01:29:32,900 "And these people know where those mines are. 1509 01:29:33,000 --> 01:29:36,633 "You treat these people nice in front of the trackers 1510 01:29:36,733 --> 01:29:37,933 "and those trackers 1511 01:29:38,033 --> 01:29:39,666 "will rearrange your head and ass for you 1512 01:29:39,766 --> 01:29:41,266 and walk away laughing." 1513 01:29:42,866 --> 01:29:46,033 Well, at that point, three days into Vietnam, 1514 01:29:46,133 --> 01:29:47,933 I'm thinking, "Whoa. 1515 01:29:48,033 --> 01:29:51,333 What the hell is going on here?" 1516 01:29:54,633 --> 01:29:57,100 I think it is destroying the good name 1517 01:29:57,200 --> 01:29:59,766 and the leadership of the United States. 1518 01:29:59,866 --> 01:30:04,800 Furthermore, I believe that the war is militarily unwinnable. 1519 01:30:04,900 --> 01:30:09,333 I believe that thousands of American young men 1520 01:30:09,433 --> 01:30:13,600 are being asked to die to save Lyndon Johnson's face. 1521 01:30:13,700 --> 01:30:17,166 He must know by now that this war is unwinnable, 1522 01:30:17,266 --> 01:30:19,633 but he does not know how to give up. 1523 01:30:19,733 --> 01:30:23,433 Therefore, I believe that young men are not only justified 1524 01:30:23,533 --> 01:30:26,566 but to be thanked if they point this out 1525 01:30:26,666 --> 01:30:30,533 by refusing to take part in such an outrageous war any longer. 1526 01:30:30,633 --> 01:30:34,433 ("Footprints" by Wayne Shorter playing) 1527 01:30:34,533 --> 01:30:37,800 NARRATOR: Dr. Benjamin Spock was the best-loved pediatrician 1528 01:30:37,900 --> 01:30:39,233 of his time; 1529 01:30:39,333 --> 01:30:43,266 millions of American parents had consulted his bestseller, 1530 01:30:43,366 --> 01:30:45,700 Baby and Child Care. 1531 01:30:45,800 --> 01:30:50,300 In early 1967, he wrote the preface to an article 1532 01:30:50,400 --> 01:30:53,100 in the leftist magazine Ramparts 1533 01:30:53,200 --> 01:30:58,766 on the impact of American napalm on South Vietnamese children. 1534 01:30:58,866 --> 01:31:03,666 Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. was among those who had read it. 1535 01:31:03,766 --> 01:31:06,900 He had been agonizing about the war for months. 1536 01:31:07,000 --> 01:31:09,833 But he had been reluctant to break openly 1537 01:31:09,933 --> 01:31:13,933 with Lyndon Johnson, who had done so much for civil rights. 1538 01:31:14,033 --> 01:31:18,200 Now he could no longer stay silent. 1539 01:31:18,300 --> 01:31:23,466 MARTIN LUTHER KING: I come to this magnificent house of worship tonight 1540 01:31:23,566 --> 01:31:28,566 because my conscience leaves me no other choice. 1541 01:31:28,666 --> 01:31:34,666 A time comes when silence is betrayal. 1542 01:31:34,766 --> 01:31:41,566 That time has come for us in relation to Vietnam. 1543 01:31:41,666 --> 01:31:43,533 ("Talking World War III Blues" by Bob Dylan playing) 1544 01:31:43,633 --> 01:31:46,833 NARRATOR: Eleven days later, King joined Dr. Spock 1545 01:31:46,933 --> 01:31:49,633 and perhaps half a million other protestors 1546 01:31:49,733 --> 01:31:53,033 at a massive demonstration in Central Park 1547 01:31:53,133 --> 01:31:55,233 organized by a new coalition, 1548 01:31:55,333 --> 01:32:00,000 the National Mobilization to End the War in Vietnam. 1549 01:32:00,100 --> 01:32:02,233 ♪ Some time ago a crazy dream came to me ♪ 1550 01:32:02,333 --> 01:32:05,300 ♪ I dreamt I was walkin' into World War III. ♪ 1551 01:32:05,400 --> 01:32:08,466 ZIMMERMAN: That was the biggest crowd any of us had ever been in 1552 01:32:08,566 --> 01:32:10,000 in our lives. 1553 01:32:10,100 --> 01:32:14,233 And when the front of the march got down to the United Nations, 1554 01:32:14,333 --> 01:32:17,266 the back of the march had not yet left Central Park. 1555 01:32:17,366 --> 01:32:20,600 That's how many people we were. 1556 01:32:25,266 --> 01:32:29,500 Not all of the people on that march were students. 1557 01:32:29,600 --> 01:32:34,433 And as a result, we all felt we have a chance now. 1558 01:32:34,533 --> 01:32:39,133 You know, there's a path that we could see to ending the war. 1559 01:32:42,666 --> 01:32:45,266 MARTIN LUTHER KING: Stop the bombing. 1560 01:32:45,366 --> 01:32:49,133 Let us save our national honor. 1561 01:32:49,233 --> 01:32:53,500 Stop the bombing, and stop the war. 1562 01:32:53,600 --> 01:32:58,466 Let us save American lives and Vietnamese lives. 1563 01:32:58,566 --> 01:33:02,166 Let us take a single instantaneous step 1564 01:33:02,266 --> 01:33:03,633 to the peace table. 1565 01:33:03,733 --> 01:33:05,233 Stop the bombing. 1566 01:33:06,766 --> 01:33:08,866 NARRATOR: The antiwar movement was growing 1567 01:33:08,966 --> 01:33:12,100 in numbers and militancy. 1568 01:33:12,200 --> 01:33:16,066 "We are no longer interested in merely protesting the war," 1569 01:33:16,166 --> 01:33:19,633 one organizer said, "we are out to stop it." 1570 01:33:22,500 --> 01:33:26,433 Meanwhile, some in the Johnson administration became convinced 1571 01:33:26,533 --> 01:33:29,766 the antiwar movement was a communist conspiracy 1572 01:33:29,866 --> 01:33:31,733 directed by Moscow. 1573 01:33:31,833 --> 01:33:36,566 The FBI and the CIA, which was barred by statute 1574 01:33:36,666 --> 01:33:39,066 from operating within the United States, 1575 01:33:39,166 --> 01:33:43,466 began infiltrating the movement, wiretapping its leaders, 1576 01:33:43,566 --> 01:33:48,633 even inciting violence in order to undercut their appeal. 1577 01:33:52,633 --> 01:33:55,666 ZIMMERMAN: At that time, people who supported the war 1578 01:33:55,766 --> 01:33:59,166 were fond of saying "My country right or wrong"; 1579 01:33:59,266 --> 01:34:02,233 "America, love it or leave it." 1580 01:34:02,333 --> 01:34:05,766 Or "Better dead than Red." 1581 01:34:05,866 --> 01:34:10,033 Those sentiments seemed insane to us. 1582 01:34:10,133 --> 01:34:12,300 We don't want to live in a country 1583 01:34:12,400 --> 01:34:14,666 that we're going to support whether it's right or wrong. 1584 01:34:14,766 --> 01:34:16,133 We want to live in a country 1585 01:34:16,233 --> 01:34:19,466 that acts rightly and doesn't act wrongly. 1586 01:34:19,566 --> 01:34:23,900 And if our country isn't doing that, it needs to be corrected. 1587 01:34:24,000 --> 01:34:27,200 So we had a very different idea of patriotism. 1588 01:34:27,300 --> 01:34:33,900 So we began an era in which two groups of Americans, 1589 01:34:34,000 --> 01:34:36,966 both thinking that they were acting patriotically, 1590 01:34:37,066 --> 01:34:39,266 went to war with each other. 1591 01:34:39,366 --> 01:34:43,100 Over 200,000 communist sympathizers 1592 01:34:43,200 --> 01:34:46,200 in that park this morning tried to burn this flag, 1593 01:34:46,300 --> 01:34:47,933 but they didn't succeed. 1594 01:34:48,033 --> 01:34:49,600 RICHARD NIXON: I would put it this way-- 1595 01:34:49,700 --> 01:34:52,066 there's a monstrous myth abroad, 1596 01:34:52,166 --> 01:34:55,633 a myth which Hanoi creates and which it believes, 1597 01:34:55,733 --> 01:34:58,866 and that is that the United States is so divided 1598 01:34:58,966 --> 01:35:03,600 that if they just hang on that they will win in Washington, 1599 01:35:03,700 --> 01:35:05,866 and in the United States the victory that our fighting men 1600 01:35:05,966 --> 01:35:07,666 are denying them in field. 1601 01:35:07,766 --> 01:35:10,600 WESTMORELAND: As I have said before, 1602 01:35:10,700 --> 01:35:14,533 in evaluating the enemy strategy it is evident to me 1603 01:35:14,633 --> 01:35:18,266 that he believes our Achilles' heel is our resolve. 1604 01:35:19,666 --> 01:35:21,900 NARRATOR: Two weeks after the Manhattan protest, 1605 01:35:22,000 --> 01:35:26,166 General Westmoreland addressed a joint session of Congress, 1606 01:35:26,266 --> 01:35:29,566 the first general ever to be called home from a battlefield 1607 01:35:29,666 --> 01:35:32,166 by his president to do so. 1608 01:35:32,266 --> 01:35:37,933 Backed at home by resolve, confidence, patience, 1609 01:35:38,033 --> 01:35:41,100 determination, and continued support, 1610 01:35:41,200 --> 01:35:45,266 we will prevail in Vietnam over the communist aggressor. 1611 01:35:45,366 --> 01:35:46,833 (applause) 1612 01:35:46,933 --> 01:35:49,100 NARRATOR: Behind the scenes, 1613 01:35:49,200 --> 01:35:52,600 neither Westmoreland nor the administration he served 1614 01:35:52,700 --> 01:35:55,833 was confident the United States would prevail. 1615 01:35:57,366 --> 01:35:59,633 Westmoreland reported to the president 1616 01:35:59,733 --> 01:36:02,266 that according to the latest statistics, 1617 01:36:02,366 --> 01:36:06,266 the crossover point had finally been reached that spring, 1618 01:36:06,366 --> 01:36:10,766 except in the military sector just south of the DMZ. 1619 01:36:10,866 --> 01:36:14,966 But, he warned, the United States was doing little better 1620 01:36:15,066 --> 01:36:16,500 than holding its own. 1621 01:36:16,600 --> 01:36:20,333 If he were given 200,000 additional troops 1622 01:36:20,433 --> 01:36:23,700 and allowed to go into Laos and Cambodia, 1623 01:36:23,800 --> 01:36:25,866 he could cut off the Ho Chi Minh Trail 1624 01:36:25,966 --> 01:36:28,666 and end the war in two years. 1625 01:36:28,766 --> 01:36:32,133 But "When we add divisions," Johnson asked, 1626 01:36:32,233 --> 01:36:34,800 "can't the enemy add divisions? 1627 01:36:34,900 --> 01:36:37,100 Where does it all end?" 1628 01:36:37,200 --> 01:36:40,433 Westmoreland had no answer. 1629 01:36:40,533 --> 01:36:43,566 Instead, he and the Joint Chiefs asked the president 1630 01:36:43,666 --> 01:36:47,500 to permit them to bomb sites just below the Chinese border, 1631 01:36:47,600 --> 01:36:50,333 and to mine the harbors of North Vietnam 1632 01:36:50,433 --> 01:36:56,266 to keep Hanoi's Soviet ally from resupplying her by sea. 1633 01:36:56,366 --> 01:37:01,733 Meanwhile, Robert McNamara, the chief architect 1634 01:37:01,833 --> 01:37:04,900 of American strategy in Vietnam, 1635 01:37:05,000 --> 01:37:07,133 had grown less and less confident 1636 01:37:07,233 --> 01:37:09,366 in its ultimate success 1637 01:37:09,466 --> 01:37:13,433 and in the repeated calls for more men and more bombing 1638 01:37:13,533 --> 01:37:16,566 made by the military he oversaw. 1639 01:37:16,666 --> 01:37:21,700 GELB: Robert McNamara was the giant of Washington, D.C. 1640 01:37:21,800 --> 01:37:27,000 He was the embodiment of intellect and self-confidence. 1641 01:37:27,100 --> 01:37:30,666 If there was a problem, there had to be an answer. 1642 01:37:30,766 --> 01:37:33,800 And that was his fatal flaw. 1643 01:37:33,900 --> 01:37:36,566 The startling thing is 1644 01:37:36,666 --> 01:37:42,766 that this man who never seemed to doubt anything he said, 1645 01:37:42,866 --> 01:37:46,433 actually began to doubt profoundly what he was doing 1646 01:37:46,533 --> 01:37:48,066 in Vietnam. 1647 01:37:48,166 --> 01:37:49,766 But we didn't know about it. 1648 01:37:49,866 --> 01:37:53,266 NARRATOR: In a private memorandum to the president, 1649 01:37:53,366 --> 01:37:55,933 McNamara told Johnson that 1650 01:37:56,033 --> 01:37:58,800 "the picture of the world's greatest superpower 1651 01:37:58,900 --> 01:38:03,800 "killing or seriously injuring 1,000 non-combatants a week, 1652 01:38:03,900 --> 01:38:08,366 "while trying to pound a tiny, backward nation into submission 1653 01:38:08,466 --> 01:38:11,466 "on an issue whose merits are hotly disputed 1654 01:38:11,566 --> 01:38:13,566 is not a pretty one." 1655 01:38:13,666 --> 01:38:18,366 He urged the president to limit troop levels, not raise them, 1656 01:38:18,466 --> 01:38:22,566 and to declare an unconditional end to all bombing 1657 01:38:22,666 --> 01:38:25,133 north of the 20th parallel. 1658 01:38:25,233 --> 01:38:29,200 "The war in Vietnam is acquiring a momentum of its own 1659 01:38:29,300 --> 01:38:32,300 that must be stopped," McNamara wrote. 1660 01:38:32,400 --> 01:38:35,800 "Dramatic increases in U.S. troop deployments 1661 01:38:35,900 --> 01:38:38,766 "and attacks on the North are not necessary 1662 01:38:38,866 --> 01:38:40,533 "and are not the answer. 1663 01:38:40,633 --> 01:38:44,400 "The enemy can absorb them or counter them, 1664 01:38:44,500 --> 01:38:46,100 "bogging us down further 1665 01:38:46,200 --> 01:38:51,433 and risking even more serious escalation of the war." 1666 01:38:51,533 --> 01:38:56,233 In the end, Johnson tried to find a middle ground. 1667 01:38:56,333 --> 01:38:58,833 He expanded the list of bombing targets, 1668 01:38:58,933 --> 01:39:01,766 but he refused to mine the harbors 1669 01:39:01,866 --> 01:39:04,100 and he agreed to send Westmoreland 1670 01:39:04,200 --> 01:39:06,966 only 47,000 more troops, 1671 01:39:07,066 --> 01:39:10,266 which would bring the total of U.S. forces in the country 1672 01:39:10,366 --> 01:39:12,633 to more than half a million men. 1673 01:39:14,966 --> 01:39:20,166 On June 17, 1967, Robert McNamara placed a call 1674 01:39:20,266 --> 01:39:24,433 to his military assistant, Lieutenant Colonel Robert Gard. 1675 01:39:24,533 --> 01:39:27,600 GARD: My phone rang and the little light showed 1676 01:39:27,700 --> 01:39:30,300 it was the secretary on the line. 1677 01:39:30,400 --> 01:39:33,566 And I picked it up and said, "Yes, Mr. Secretary?" 1678 01:39:33,666 --> 01:39:35,533 And Mr. McNamara said, 1679 01:39:35,633 --> 01:39:38,266 "Bob, I want a thorough study done of the background 1680 01:39:38,366 --> 01:39:40,866 of our involvement in Vietnam," and hung up the phone. 1681 01:39:40,966 --> 01:39:44,333 NARRATOR: Leslie Gelb, a 30-year-old member 1682 01:39:44,433 --> 01:39:47,633 of the International Security Affairs staff, 1683 01:39:47,733 --> 01:39:50,766 was named to oversee the top-secret analysis 1684 01:39:50,866 --> 01:39:55,100 of how key decisions had been made, going all the way back 1685 01:39:55,200 --> 01:39:57,333 to the Truman administration. 1686 01:39:59,433 --> 01:40:04,366 GELB: McNamara gave us full access to his closet, 1687 01:40:04,466 --> 01:40:07,033 in his office, which was like a room. 1688 01:40:07,133 --> 01:40:09,566 But all his private papers were there. 1689 01:40:09,666 --> 01:40:12,100 And I was picking out the memos, 1690 01:40:12,200 --> 01:40:14,866 a lot of which I helped to write. 1691 01:40:14,966 --> 01:40:18,100 But there were others in there that I had never seen. 1692 01:40:18,200 --> 01:40:25,300 In these memos you began to see Robert McNamara communicating 1693 01:40:25,400 --> 01:40:30,466 with the president, alone, his doubts. 1694 01:40:30,566 --> 01:40:32,866 It stunned me. 1695 01:40:40,500 --> 01:40:43,433 HARRISON: I had thought that we were mostly fighting a guerrilla war. 1696 01:40:46,100 --> 01:40:52,366 I didn't know that we were going to be fighting guys like us, 1697 01:40:52,466 --> 01:40:54,300 that I had a doppelganger out there 1698 01:40:54,400 --> 01:40:59,666 who was leading a rifle platoon, who knew what he was doing, 1699 01:40:59,766 --> 01:41:05,200 who was as fully prepared to kill me as I was to kill him. 1700 01:41:05,300 --> 01:41:07,366 (band playing a march) 1701 01:41:07,466 --> 01:41:10,533 NARRATOR: That June, First Lieutenant Matthew Harrison 1702 01:41:10,633 --> 01:41:15,333 finally got his orders to join the 173rd Airborne, 1703 01:41:15,433 --> 01:41:19,633 an elite unit ready to rush anywhere they were needed. 1704 01:41:19,733 --> 01:41:25,233 They called themselves General Westmoreland's Fire Brigade. 1705 01:41:29,666 --> 01:41:33,133 Harrison's arrival at Bien Hoa was a reunion of sorts. 1706 01:41:33,233 --> 01:41:38,000 He and seven others from the West Point class of 1966 1707 01:41:38,100 --> 01:41:41,133 all found themselves serving in the 2nd Battalion, 1708 01:41:41,233 --> 01:41:44,533 including two especially close friends: 1709 01:41:44,633 --> 01:41:48,633 Donald Judd and Richard Hood. 1710 01:41:48,733 --> 01:41:51,900 HARRISON: As young lieutenants, as 22-year-olds, 1711 01:41:52,000 --> 01:41:57,100 we really were idealists and we really were Boy Scouts. 1712 01:41:57,200 --> 01:42:01,433 I really felt as though I was uniquely qualified 1713 01:42:01,533 --> 01:42:03,166 to lead American soldiers 1714 01:42:03,266 --> 01:42:05,566 and that there was nothing more important 1715 01:42:05,666 --> 01:42:08,066 than what I was going to be doing. 1716 01:42:08,166 --> 01:42:11,700 But when I joined the 173rd, 1717 01:42:11,800 --> 01:42:15,466 I think the first day I was there some guy showed me 1718 01:42:15,566 --> 01:42:19,400 what looked like a bunch of apricots on a leather thong. 1719 01:42:19,500 --> 01:42:23,066 Turns out they were ears, dried, desiccated. 1720 01:42:24,866 --> 01:42:28,566 I understood theoretically what it meant to be in a war. 1721 01:42:28,666 --> 01:42:31,600 But, of course, no one can really understand it 1722 01:42:31,700 --> 01:42:33,100 until they've done it. 1723 01:42:34,866 --> 01:42:37,933 ("Wild Child" by the Ventures playing) 1724 01:42:38,033 --> 01:42:40,766 NARRATOR: Harrison was a platoon leader in Charlie Company. 1725 01:42:40,866 --> 01:42:46,566 His West Point classmates served with Alpha Company. 1726 01:42:46,666 --> 01:42:48,933 Within a few days, 1727 01:42:49,033 --> 01:42:51,933 they were helicoptered into the heart of the Central Highlands 1728 01:42:52,033 --> 01:42:55,533 near Dak To, where North Vietnamese regulars 1729 01:42:55,633 --> 01:43:00,666 were said to be threatening a Special Forces camp. 1730 01:43:00,766 --> 01:43:03,566 They were all airlifted into landing zones 1731 01:43:03,666 --> 01:43:06,933 hacked out of the steep, jungle-blanketed slope 1732 01:43:07,033 --> 01:43:10,800 of a mountain the Americans called Hill 1338 1733 01:43:10,900 --> 01:43:16,233 for its height in meters, with orders to hunt down the enemy. 1734 01:43:16,333 --> 01:43:18,700 They walked for two days, 1735 01:43:18,800 --> 01:43:21,666 following a well-worn enemy trail, 1736 01:43:21,766 --> 01:43:26,400 constantly on the lookout for booby traps or ambushes. 1737 01:43:30,866 --> 01:43:32,766 On the evening of June 21, 1738 01:43:32,866 --> 01:43:36,133 Harrison's Charlie Company settled in for the night 1739 01:43:36,233 --> 01:43:39,633 while his friends in Alpha Company set up camp 1740 01:43:39,733 --> 01:43:42,066 a little less than two miles to the south, 1741 01:43:42,166 --> 01:43:45,933 along the same slippery jungle path. 1742 01:43:46,033 --> 01:43:50,800 No one knew that an entire North Vietnamese battalion-- 1743 01:43:50,900 --> 01:43:53,300 perhaps 500 men-- 1744 01:43:53,400 --> 01:43:56,133 was encamped on the other side of a ridgeline, 1745 01:43:56,233 --> 01:44:00,000 just a few hundred yards away. 1746 01:44:02,000 --> 01:44:04,000 At 6:58 the next morning, 1747 01:44:04,100 --> 01:44:07,833 a patrol from Alpha Company stumbled into a squad 1748 01:44:07,933 --> 01:44:09,600 of North Vietnamese. 1749 01:44:09,700 --> 01:44:12,600 The Americans withdrew 1750 01:44:12,700 --> 01:44:16,000 and struggled to establish a perimeter. 1751 01:44:16,100 --> 01:44:18,633 Within minutes, they were under attack 1752 01:44:18,733 --> 01:44:23,266 from relentless AK-47 automatic fire. 1753 01:44:23,366 --> 01:44:26,633 The enemy mounted attack after attack, 1754 01:44:26,733 --> 01:44:29,633 drawing closer each time. 1755 01:44:29,733 --> 01:44:33,566 Alpha Company radioed for air and artillery support, 1756 01:44:33,666 --> 01:44:37,666 but the triple-canopy jungle blocked the spotter's view. 1757 01:45:29,166 --> 01:45:32,533 NARRATOR: At around noon, Harrison's unit was ordered to rescue 1758 01:45:32,633 --> 01:45:35,566 the trapped men of Alpha Company. 1759 01:45:35,666 --> 01:45:39,333 HARRISON: It was mountainous terrain. 1760 01:45:39,433 --> 01:45:41,166 We were carrying two bodies 1761 01:45:41,266 --> 01:45:43,733 along with a bunch of engineer equipment. 1762 01:45:43,833 --> 01:45:49,066 And we could not push down the couple of hundred meters 1763 01:45:49,166 --> 01:45:52,133 to where the most of the fighting had taken place. 1764 01:45:52,233 --> 01:45:53,966 (explosion) 1765 01:45:54,066 --> 01:45:56,333 NARRATOR: The going was steep and slippery. 1766 01:45:56,433 --> 01:45:58,500 North Vietnamese troops, 1767 01:45:58,600 --> 01:46:01,400 now entrenched along both sides of the trail, 1768 01:46:01,500 --> 01:46:06,133 prevented Matt Harrison and his men from reaching Alpha Company. 1769 01:46:06,233 --> 01:46:09,800 At dusk, the shooting died down, 1770 01:46:09,900 --> 01:46:12,333 and they dug in at the top of a ridge 1771 01:46:12,433 --> 01:46:15,400 and did their best to sleep. 1772 01:46:17,200 --> 01:46:20,966 HARRISON: So we lay there on the night of June 22 1773 01:46:21,066 --> 01:46:25,566 and we could hear the screams of the wounded down the hill 1774 01:46:25,666 --> 01:46:30,266 as the North Vietnamese went around and shot them. 1775 01:46:30,366 --> 01:46:33,533 NARRATOR: By dawn, the enemy had melted away. 1776 01:46:37,233 --> 01:46:40,500 Harrison and his platoon crept down the hillside 1777 01:46:40,600 --> 01:46:44,233 and reached what was left of Alpha Company. 1778 01:46:45,633 --> 01:46:51,466 Out of 137 men, 76 lay dead along the path. 1779 01:46:51,566 --> 01:46:56,566 Forty-three had been shot in the head at close range. 1780 01:46:56,666 --> 01:47:01,300 Ears had been cut from some; eyes gouged out; 1781 01:47:01,400 --> 01:47:03,333 ring fingers missing. 1782 01:47:03,433 --> 01:47:07,133 Twenty-three more men were wounded. 1783 01:47:07,233 --> 01:47:13,100 Harrison found his classmates, Donald Judd and Richard Hood, 1784 01:47:13,200 --> 01:47:15,300 among the dead. 1785 01:47:16,933 --> 01:47:21,066 HARRISON: This was my introduction to war. 1786 01:47:21,166 --> 01:47:25,000 This was my welcome to Vietnam. 1787 01:47:27,233 --> 01:47:30,700 We spent the rest of the day putting those bodies 1788 01:47:30,800 --> 01:47:34,200 into body bags and getting them out of there. 1789 01:47:34,300 --> 01:47:37,066 Getting-getting killed is forever. 1790 01:47:37,166 --> 01:47:42,933 And, um, that was something that I had known theoretically 1791 01:47:43,033 --> 01:47:45,233 but I now understood particularly 1792 01:47:45,333 --> 01:47:47,900 when I put my two classmates in body bags, 1793 01:47:48,000 --> 01:47:50,633 guys that I had gone to school with for four years 1794 01:47:50,733 --> 01:47:53,733 and were good friends and who just the week before 1795 01:47:53,833 --> 01:47:56,766 we had been drinking beer and ribbing each other 1796 01:47:56,866 --> 01:48:00,000 and these guys were now gone. 1797 01:48:01,033 --> 01:48:02,033 NARRATOR: Charlie Company found 1798 01:48:02,133 --> 01:48:05,733 just nine or ten North Vietnamese bodies. 1799 01:48:05,833 --> 01:48:08,533 Harrison and his men were ordered to search 1800 01:48:08,633 --> 01:48:12,466 the nearby hillsides for more enemy dead, 1801 01:48:12,566 --> 01:48:16,600 who commanders assumed had been killed by U.S. artillery. 1802 01:48:16,700 --> 01:48:20,300 MACV needed its body count. 1803 01:48:22,900 --> 01:48:25,966 HARRISON: We never located them and I believe today 1804 01:48:26,066 --> 01:48:29,066 that we didn't locate them because they weren't there. 1805 01:48:29,166 --> 01:48:33,666 I think we just took a terrible loss on June 22. 1806 01:48:33,766 --> 01:48:40,866 To admit that a rifle company in the 173rd had been wiped out 1807 01:48:40,966 --> 01:48:43,133 by the North Vietnamese was not something 1808 01:48:43,233 --> 01:48:44,633 our leaders were prepared to do. 1809 01:48:44,733 --> 01:48:50,400 So we had to sell ourselves and we had to sell the public 1810 01:48:50,500 --> 01:48:53,900 on the idea that we had inflicted casualties 1811 01:48:54,000 --> 01:48:55,766 on the North Vietnamese as severe 1812 01:48:55,866 --> 01:48:58,133 as they had inflicted on us. 1813 01:48:58,233 --> 01:49:02,766 NARRATOR: An officer told a reporter that the shattered rifle company 1814 01:49:02,866 --> 01:49:07,100 had killed 475 enemy soldiers. 1815 01:49:07,200 --> 01:49:11,266 When another officer suggested to General Westmoreland 1816 01:49:11,366 --> 01:49:14,300 that the figure seemed too high to be believable, 1817 01:49:14,400 --> 01:49:16,766 he replied, "Too late. 1818 01:49:16,866 --> 01:49:19,266 It's already gone out." 1819 01:49:19,366 --> 01:49:22,233 HARRISON: Within a few days after the battle, 1820 01:49:22,333 --> 01:49:24,566 Westmoreland came up to speak 1821 01:49:24,666 --> 01:49:28,400 to what we thought of ourselves as his brigade. 1822 01:49:28,500 --> 01:49:34,533 And he hopped up on a hood of a jeep in very crisp fatigues 1823 01:49:34,633 --> 01:49:37,533 looking every inch the battle commander 1824 01:49:37,633 --> 01:49:41,966 and gave us a pep talk and told us how proud he was 1825 01:49:42,066 --> 01:49:44,600 and what a magnificent job we had done. 1826 01:49:44,700 --> 01:49:49,666 But by then I had more than just a suspicion 1827 01:49:49,766 --> 01:49:55,933 that this was a fairy tale, that Westmoreland was wrong 1828 01:49:56,033 --> 01:49:58,966 and I didn't know whether he knew he was wrong 1829 01:49:59,066 --> 01:50:02,800 or whether he believed what he was being told 1830 01:50:02,900 --> 01:50:05,133 and wanted to believe. 1831 01:50:05,233 --> 01:50:09,633 But this was the first time that I had to come to grips 1832 01:50:09,733 --> 01:50:11,500 with the fact that the leadership 1833 01:50:11,600 --> 01:50:15,300 was either out of touch or was lying. 1834 01:50:15,400 --> 01:50:17,533 ("One Too Many Mornings" by Bob Dylan playing) 1835 01:50:17,633 --> 01:50:19,600 DYLAN: ♪ Down the street the dogs are barkin' ♪ 1836 01:50:19,700 --> 01:50:22,133 ♪ And the day is a-gettin' dark. ♪ 1837 01:50:22,233 --> 01:50:26,033 CAROL CROCKER: I remember a very difficult conversation I had 1838 01:50:26,133 --> 01:50:29,466 with a girl who had really been a best friend of mine. 1839 01:50:29,566 --> 01:50:32,966 And the talk turned to Vietnam. 1840 01:50:33,066 --> 01:50:35,966 And I remember her looking at me and saying, 1841 01:50:36,066 --> 01:50:43,400 "My father says that you can't listen to people 1842 01:50:43,500 --> 01:50:46,133 "who've lost someone in the war 1843 01:50:46,233 --> 01:50:47,866 "because they're going to support it 1844 01:50:47,966 --> 01:50:50,000 to justify that person's death." 1845 01:50:51,833 --> 01:50:54,866 I felt like she'd hit me in the stomach. 1846 01:50:54,966 --> 01:50:59,166 But I knew at that moment there were some factions developing 1847 01:50:59,266 --> 01:51:03,066 and this wasn't going to be an easy path to walk; 1848 01:51:03,166 --> 01:51:04,833 that people were going to have opinions 1849 01:51:04,933 --> 01:51:07,233 about my brother's death 1850 01:51:07,333 --> 01:51:11,066 that in some ways had nothing to do with his death for me. 1851 01:51:13,166 --> 01:51:15,533 ("The Sound of Silence" by Simon and Garfunkel playing) 1852 01:51:15,633 --> 01:51:19,800 ♪ Hello darkness, my old friend ♪ 1853 01:51:19,900 --> 01:51:24,400 ♪ I've come to talk with you again ♪ 1854 01:51:24,500 --> 01:51:29,133 ♪ Because a vision softly creeping ♪ 1855 01:51:29,233 --> 01:51:33,633 ♪ Left its seeds while I was sleeping ♪ 1856 01:51:33,733 --> 01:51:40,233 ♪ And the vision that was planted in my brain ♪ 1857 01:51:40,333 --> 01:51:43,833 ♪ Still remains 1858 01:51:43,933 --> 01:51:49,666 ♪ Within the sound of silence 1859 01:51:49,766 --> 01:51:54,066 ♪ In restless dreams I walked alone ♪ 1860 01:51:54,166 --> 01:51:58,633 ♪ Narrow streets of cobblestone ♪ 1861 01:51:58,733 --> 01:52:03,200 ♪ 'Neath the halo of a street lamp ♪ 1862 01:52:03,300 --> 01:52:07,833 ♪ I turned my collar to the cold and damp ♪ 1863 01:52:07,933 --> 01:52:14,533 ♪ When my eyes were stabbed by the flash of a neon light ♪ 1864 01:52:14,633 --> 01:52:18,000 ♪ That split the night 1865 01:52:18,100 --> 01:52:24,233 ♪ And touched the sound of silence ♪ 1866 01:52:24,333 --> 01:52:28,200 ♪ And in the naked light I saw 1867 01:52:28,300 --> 01:52:32,933 ♪ Ten thousand people, maybe more ♪ 1868 01:52:33,033 --> 01:52:37,600 ♪ People talking without speaking ♪ 1869 01:52:37,700 --> 01:52:42,000 ♪ People hearing without listening ♪ 1870 01:52:42,100 --> 01:52:49,466 ♪ People writing songs that voices never share ♪ 1871 01:52:49,566 --> 01:52:53,133 ♪ And no one dared 1872 01:52:53,233 --> 01:52:58,833 ♪ Disturb the sound of silence 1873 01:52:58,933 --> 01:53:03,333 ♪ And the people bowed and prayed ♪ 1874 01:53:03,433 --> 01:53:07,733 ♪ To the neon god they made 1875 01:53:07,833 --> 01:53:12,066 ♪ And the sign flashed out its warning ♪ 1876 01:53:12,166 --> 01:53:16,533 ♪ In the words that it was forming ♪ 1877 01:53:16,633 --> 01:53:18,166 ♪ And the signs said 1878 01:53:18,266 --> 01:53:23,900 ♪ The words of the prophets are written on the subway walls ♪ 1879 01:53:24,000 --> 01:53:27,433 ♪ And tenement halls 1880 01:53:27,533 --> 01:53:36,000 ♪ And whisper'd in the sounds of silence. ♪ 1881 01:53:47,333 --> 01:54:04,466 (helicopter blades 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