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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Downloaded from YTS.MX 2 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.MX 3 00:00:08,334 --> 00:00:12,133 Captions made possible by HOME BOX OFFICE 4 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:16,534 A Division of TIME WARNER ENTERTAINMENT COMPANY, L.P. 5 00:00:29,300 --> 00:00:31,968 NOW, I FIRST THOUGHT THE TWO KIDS WHO DID THIS 6 00:00:32,033 --> 00:00:33,567 CAME FROM SOMEPLACE ELSE. 7 00:00:33,634 --> 00:00:36,534 WHEN I LEARNED THAT THEY HAD GROWN UP IN LARAMIE, 8 00:00:36,601 --> 00:00:38,567 I WAS JUST FLOORED ! 9 00:00:51,067 --> 00:00:55,267 In Laramie, Wyoming, a young man is in a deep coma, 10 00:00:55,334 --> 00:00:58,701 near death, from a savage beating. 11 00:01:02,701 --> 00:01:06,033 WHEN I FIRST FOUND OUT, I JUST THOUGHT IT WAS HORRIBLE. 12 00:01:07,901 --> 00:01:09,234 NOBODY DESERVES THAT. 13 00:01:09,300 --> 00:01:11,934 I DON'T CARE WHO YOU ARE. 14 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:17,634 A college freshman was beaten, tied to a fence, 15 00:01:17,701 --> 00:01:20,767 and left for dead in Wyoming this week. 16 00:01:23,267 --> 00:01:25,901 CERTAINLY YOU'D LIKE TO THINK THIS WAS SOMEBODY 17 00:01:25,968 --> 00:01:27,367 FROM OUT OF TOWN. 18 00:01:27,434 --> 00:01:30,100 SOMEBODY WHO COMES THROUGH AND BEATS SOMEBODY UP. 19 00:01:32,167 --> 00:01:33,868 BUT IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SOMEBODY 20 00:01:33,934 --> 00:01:36,968 WHO'S BEEN BEATEN REPEATEDLY 21 00:01:37,033 --> 00:01:38,634 BY SOMEBODY FROM OUR TOWN... 22 00:01:38,701 --> 00:01:41,701 WELL, THAT CERTAINLY OFFENDS US. 23 00:01:46,701 --> 00:01:48,767 IF YOU ASKED ME BEFORE, I WOULD'VE TOLD YOU 24 00:01:48,834 --> 00:01:51,000 LARAMIE'S A BEAUTIFUL TOWN. 25 00:01:51,067 --> 00:01:52,734 IT'S SECLUDED. 26 00:01:52,801 --> 00:01:54,200 YOU KNOW, SECLUDED ENOUGH 27 00:01:54,267 --> 00:01:57,167 SO YOU CAN HAVE YOUR OWN IDENTITY. 28 00:01:57,868 --> 00:01:58,801 YOU KNOW, NOW... 29 00:01:58,868 --> 00:02:00,000 AFTER MATTHEW... 30 00:02:00,067 --> 00:02:03,934 WE'RE A TOWN DEFINED BY AN ACCIDENT 31 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:05,467 OR A CRIME, YOU KNOW ? 32 00:02:05,534 --> 00:02:07,567 WE'VE BECOME WACO OR JASPER. 33 00:02:07,634 --> 00:02:12,467 WE'RE A NOUN OR A DEFINITION OR A SIGN. 34 00:02:23,500 --> 00:02:25,200 DO YOU MIND IF I TAPE THIS ? 35 00:02:25,267 --> 00:02:27,100 NO, I DON'T MIND. 36 00:02:27,167 --> 00:02:28,434 GREAT, THANK YOU. 37 00:02:28,500 --> 00:02:30,334 AND THANK YOU AGAIN FOR TAKING TIME OUT OF YOUR REHEARSAL 38 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:31,901 TO TALK TO ME. 39 00:02:31,968 --> 00:02:34,133 I MUST TELL YOU WHEN I FIRST HEARD 40 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:36,200 YOU WERE THINKING OF COMING HERE, 41 00:02:36,267 --> 00:02:37,601 WHEN YOU FIRST CALLED ME, 42 00:02:37,667 --> 00:02:39,067 I WANTED TO SAY... 43 00:02:39,133 --> 00:02:41,334 YOU JUST KICKED ME IN THE STOMACH, 44 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:42,968 WHY ARE YOU DOING THIS TO ME ? 45 00:02:43,033 --> 00:02:46,200 AND THEN I THOUGHT, WELL, THAT'S STUPID 46 00:02:46,267 --> 00:02:48,500 YOU'RE NOT DOING THIS TO ME. 47 00:02:48,567 --> 00:02:50,467 AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, 48 00:02:50,534 --> 00:02:53,267 MY STUDENTS NEED TO TALK. 49 00:02:53,334 --> 00:02:55,601 WHEN THIS FIRST HAPPENED, 50 00:02:55,667 --> 00:02:58,334 THEY STARTED TO TALK ABOUT IT AND THEN THE MEDIA DESCENDED 51 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:00,801 AND ALL DIALOGUE STOPPED. 52 00:03:00,868 --> 00:03:02,133 WE'RE NOT REPORTERS. 53 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:04,100 I KNOW, I READ YOUR LAST PLAY. 54 00:03:04,167 --> 00:03:05,200 YOU DID ? 55 00:03:05,267 --> 00:03:06,701 MM-HMM. 56 00:03:06,767 --> 00:03:09,200 GAVE ME AN IDEA OF WHAT YOU DO. 57 00:03:10,500 --> 00:03:12,367 MOISES CALLED SAYING HE HAD AN IDEA 58 00:03:12,434 --> 00:03:13,334 FOR HIS NEXT THEATER PROJECT, 59 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:15,634 BUT THERE WAS A SOMBERNESS TO HIS VOICE. 60 00:03:15,701 --> 00:03:17,534 SO, I ASKED HIM WHAT IT WAS L ABOUT. 61 00:03:17,601 --> 00:03:19,601 AND HE SAID HE MAY WANT TO DO A PIECE 62 00:03:19,667 --> 00:03:21,434 ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENING IN WYOMING. 63 00:03:21,500 --> 00:03:24,634 LEE CALLED ME AND TOLD ME THAT THE COMPANY WAS THINKING 64 00:03:24,701 --> 00:03:27,634 OF GOING DOWN TO LARAMIE AND CONDUCTING SOME INTERVIEWS 65 00:03:27,701 --> 00:03:29,334 AND DID I WANT TO COME ? 66 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:30,567 I DID, I SAID, YEAH. 67 00:03:30,634 --> 00:03:31,567 BUT I... 68 00:03:31,634 --> 00:03:35,033 I WAS HESITANT, BECAUSE AS A GAY MAN, 69 00:03:35,100 --> 00:03:37,067 I MEAN... 70 00:03:37,133 --> 00:03:40,300 A KID HAD JUST BEEN KILLED THERE BECAUSE HE WAS GAY. 71 00:03:40,367 --> 00:03:42,767 WHAT EXACTLY DO YOU WANT ? 72 00:03:42,834 --> 00:03:45,100 WELL, I'D LIKE YOU TO GIVE ME NAMES OF PEOPLE 73 00:03:45,167 --> 00:03:46,667 WHO MIGHT WANT TO TALK TO US. 74 00:03:46,734 --> 00:03:49,300 I'D LIKE TO TALK TO YOUR STUDENTS AND YOUR FRIENDS. 75 00:03:49,367 --> 00:03:51,234 I WANT TO HEAR FROM THE PEOPLE OF THE TOWN. 76 00:03:51,300 --> 00:03:54,000 I HAVE NEVER DONE ANYTHING LIKE THIS BEFORE. 77 00:03:54,067 --> 00:03:56,701 HOW DO YOU GET PEOPLE TO TALK TO YOU ? 78 00:03:56,767 --> 00:03:58,033 WHAT DO YOU ASK ? 79 00:03:58,100 --> 00:04:00,367 IT'S STILL VERY RAW FOR US HERE. 80 00:04:00,434 --> 00:04:02,167 I UNDERSTAND, 81 00:04:02,234 --> 00:04:04,334 BUT THIS IS NO LONGER ABOUT LARAMIE OR WYOMING. 82 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:06,400 THIS IS ABOUT THE WHOLE COUNTRY. 83 00:04:12,067 --> 00:04:13,000 TO ME, 84 00:04:13,067 --> 00:04:15,300 IT'S STILL ABOUT LARAMIE. 85 00:04:16,567 --> 00:04:18,133 THE COMPANY HAS AGREED TO COME TO LARAMIE 86 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:19,934 AND INTERVIEW THE PEOPLE OF THE TOWN. 87 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:22,267 AND I'M SCARED 'CAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHAT I'M GONNA DO 88 00:04:22,334 --> 00:04:24,000 ABOUT TRYING TO ENSURE THEIR SAFETY. 89 00:04:24,067 --> 00:04:26,534 I MADE A PRELIMINARY CONTACT WITH REBECCA HILLIKER 90 00:04:26,601 --> 00:04:28,200 WHO'S THE HEAD OF THE THEATER DEPARTMENT 91 00:04:28,267 --> 00:04:29,934 AT THE UNIVERSITY OF WYOMING. 92 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:32,667 AND HOPEFULLY THAT WILL LEAD TO MORE INTERVIEWS. 93 00:04:32,734 --> 00:04:34,567 YOU'RE LATE. 94 00:04:34,634 --> 00:04:38,067 I KNOW, WE TALKED FOR A LOT LONGER THAN I PLANNED. 95 00:04:38,133 --> 00:04:39,868 WHAT DID REBECCA SAY ? 96 00:04:39,934 --> 00:04:42,267 SHE GAVE ME NAMES OF A BUNCH OF PEOPLE WHO MIGHT TALK TO US. 97 00:04:42,334 --> 00:04:44,467 TOWNSPEOPLE AND RANCHERS, SOME STUDENTS. 98 00:04:44,534 --> 00:04:46,400 SO, WE SHOULD TRY AND CONTACT THESE PEOPLE FIRST. 99 00:04:46,467 --> 00:04:48,767 LET'S SEE IF ANYBODY'S GONNA TALK. 100 00:04:48,834 --> 00:04:50,534 GREAT. 101 00:04:50,601 --> 00:04:51,567 YOU OKAY ? 102 00:04:51,634 --> 00:04:52,601 WHAT ? 103 00:04:52,667 --> 00:04:54,734 PLEASE DON'T DO THAT HERE. 104 00:04:54,801 --> 00:04:56,334 WHERE'RE YOU FOLKS FROM ? 105 00:04:56,400 --> 00:04:57,667 ( together ) NEW YORK. 106 00:04:57,734 --> 00:04:59,901 AND WHAT BRINGS YOU TO TOWN ? 107 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:04,300 WE'RE JUST PASSING THROUGH. 108 00:05:13,067 --> 00:05:15,634 ( phone ) 109 00:05:21,434 --> 00:05:22,267 HI. 110 00:05:22,334 --> 00:05:24,434 IS LINDA HOME ? 111 00:05:24,500 --> 00:05:25,701 NO, SHE'S WORKING. 112 00:05:25,767 --> 00:05:27,701 OKAY, WELL, CAN YOU TELL HER THAT AMANDA STOPPED BY 113 00:05:27,767 --> 00:05:29,801 AND I'LL BE AT THE RANGER MOTEL ? 114 00:05:29,868 --> 00:05:31,067 AND WHO ARE YOU ? 115 00:05:31,133 --> 00:05:32,234 I'M WITH THE THEATER COMPANY, 116 00:05:32,300 --> 00:05:34,267 REBECCA HILLIKER TOLD HER ABOUT ME. 117 00:05:34,334 --> 00:05:36,334 I NEVER HEARD OF HER, WHAT DO YOU WANT ? 118 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:37,934 WELL, I'M WITH THE THEATER COMPANY 119 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:40,033 AND WE'RE WRITING A PLAY ABOUT LARAMIE 120 00:05:40,100 --> 00:05:41,500 AND THE MATTHEW SHEPARD INCIDENT. 121 00:05:41,567 --> 00:05:42,667 WHY ARE YOU DOING THAT ? 122 00:05:42,734 --> 00:05:45,434 WE THINK IT'S A STORY-- 123 00:05:45,500 --> 00:05:46,801 YOU'RE STICKING YOUR NOSE INTO SOMETHING 124 00:05:46,868 --> 00:05:48,367 WE DON'T NEED TO TALK ABOUT ANYMORE. 125 00:05:48,434 --> 00:05:49,133 THAT'S OVER AND DONE. 126 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:51,234 I UNDERSTAND YOUR FEELING-- 127 00:05:51,300 --> 00:05:53,133 WE DON'T WANT ANYMORE OF THIS. 128 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:54,567 YOU'RE NOT WANTED HERE. 129 00:06:00,300 --> 00:06:02,567 WHERE ARE YOU GOING WITH THIS STORY ? 130 00:06:02,634 --> 00:06:04,334 WELL, WHEN THE PLAY IS FINISHED, 131 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:05,701 WE'RE GOING TO BRING IT AROUND TO LARAMIE. 132 00:06:05,767 --> 00:06:08,300 AND YOU'RE GONNA USE OUR WORDS ? 133 00:06:08,367 --> 00:06:10,033 THAT'S THE IDEA. 134 00:06:13,467 --> 00:06:16,500 WELL, I'VE BEEN CLOSE ENOUGH TO THE CASE 135 00:06:16,567 --> 00:06:18,334 TO KNOW MANY OF THE PEOPLE. 136 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:21,667 I HAVE A DAUGHTER, WORKS IN THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT. 137 00:06:21,734 --> 00:06:23,968 AS FOR THE GAY ISSUE, 138 00:06:24,033 --> 00:06:26,334 I DON'T GIVE A DAMN ONE WAY OR ANOTHER 139 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:28,133 AS LONG AS THEY DON'T BOTHER ME. 140 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:30,801 AND EVEN IF THEY DID, I'D JUST SAY, "NO, THANK YOU". 141 00:06:30,868 --> 00:06:33,534 AND THAT'S THE ATTITUDE OF MOST OF THE LARAMIE POPULATION. 142 00:06:33,601 --> 00:06:38,067 THEY MIGHT POKE ONE IN A BAR SITUATION, YOU KNOW ? 143 00:06:38,133 --> 00:06:39,367 THEY'VE BEEN DRINKING, 144 00:06:39,434 --> 00:06:42,067 THEY MIGHT ACTUALLY SMACK ONE IN THE MOUTH, 145 00:06:42,133 --> 00:06:43,667 BUT THEN THEY JUST WALK AWAY. 146 00:06:43,734 --> 00:06:46,834 LARAMIE IS LIVE AND LET LIVE. 147 00:06:47,934 --> 00:06:49,000 MY DEAR BROTHERS AND SISTERS, 148 00:06:49,067 --> 00:06:51,667 I'M HERE TODAY TO BRING YOU THE WORD OF THE LORD. 149 00:06:51,734 --> 00:06:55,000 IN MY MINISTRY, I FOUND A SIMPLE TRUTH 150 00:06:55,067 --> 00:06:57,667 THAT I'D LIKE TO SHARE WITH YOU TODAY, 151 00:06:57,734 --> 00:06:58,934 AND IT'S THIS. 152 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:00,067 THE WORD 153 00:07:00,133 --> 00:07:02,033 IS EITHER SUFFICIENT 154 00:07:02,100 --> 00:07:03,567 OR IT IS NOT. 155 00:07:03,634 --> 00:07:06,801 NOW, SCIENTISTS TELL ME THAT HUMAN HISTORY, 156 00:07:06,868 --> 00:07:10,567 THAT THE WORLD IS FIVE BILLION 157 00:07:10,634 --> 00:07:13,334 OR SIX BILLION YEARS OLD. 158 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:17,334 AFTER ALL, WHAT'S A BILLION YEARS GIVE OR TAKE ? 159 00:07:18,801 --> 00:07:19,934 BUT THE BIBLE TELLS ME 160 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:23,434 THAT HUMAN HISTORY IS 6,000 YEARS OLD. 161 00:07:23,500 --> 00:07:24,934 THE WORD 162 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:28,634 IS EITHER SUFFICIENT OR IT IS NOT. 163 00:07:30,334 --> 00:07:31,167 IN LARAMIE, 164 00:07:31,234 --> 00:07:33,634 POPULATION 26,687, 165 00:07:33,701 --> 00:07:36,133 THE FIRST THING TO GREET US WAS WALMART. 166 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:38,434 THIS COULD BE ANY MAIN DRAG IN AMERICA. 167 00:07:38,500 --> 00:07:40,834 FAST FOOD CHAINS, GAS STATIONS. 168 00:07:40,901 --> 00:07:42,934 BUT AS WE DROVE INTO THE DOWNTOWN AREA 169 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:44,234 BY THE RAILROAD TRACKS, 170 00:07:44,300 --> 00:07:45,934 THE BUILDINGS STILL RETAIN THE SHAPE 171 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:48,067 OF A TURN OF A CENTURY WESTERN TOWN. 172 00:07:48,133 --> 00:07:50,868 OH, AND AS WE PASSED THE UNIVERSITY INN, 173 00:07:50,934 --> 00:07:54,133 ON THE SIGN WHERE AMENITIES SUCH AS HEATED POOL OR CABLE TV 174 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:56,000 ARE USUALLY TOUTED, 175 00:07:56,067 --> 00:07:57,634 IT SAID... 176 00:08:06,834 --> 00:08:08,400 SO, HOW DID YOU WIND UP HERE ? 177 00:08:08,467 --> 00:08:11,567 WELL, WHEN IT CAME TIME TO GO TO COLLEGE, 178 00:08:11,634 --> 00:08:14,601 MY PARENTS COULDN'T REALLY AFFORD TO SEND ME TO COLLEGE, 179 00:08:14,667 --> 00:08:17,033 SO, I KNEW THAT I WANTED TO STUDY THEATRE, 180 00:08:17,100 --> 00:08:19,300 BUT I KNEW THAT IF I WANTED TO GO TO COLLEGE, 181 00:08:19,367 --> 00:08:20,534 I HAD TO GET ON A SCHOLARSHIP. 182 00:08:20,601 --> 00:08:24,467 SO, THERE'S THIS COMPETITION THEY HAVE EVERY YEAR. 183 00:08:24,534 --> 00:08:27,634 IT'S A WYOMING STATE HIGH SCHOOL COMPETITION THING. 184 00:08:27,701 --> 00:08:28,734 AND... 185 00:08:28,801 --> 00:08:32,167 SO, I CAME TO THE UNIVERSITY TO THE THEATRE DEPARTMENT 186 00:08:32,234 --> 00:08:33,868 TO LOOK FOR SOME GOOD SCENES, RIGHT ? 187 00:08:33,934 --> 00:08:35,434 AND I ASKED THE PROFESSOR, I SAID... 188 00:08:35,500 --> 00:08:38,968 I NEED A KILLER SCENE AND HE'S LIKE HERE. 189 00:08:39,033 --> 00:08:40,968 HERE YOU GO, THIS IS IT. 190 00:08:41,033 --> 00:08:42,100 WHAT WAS IT ? 191 00:08:42,167 --> 00:08:44,067 THAT WAS "ANGELS IN AMERICA". 192 00:08:44,133 --> 00:08:46,567 I READ THAT AND I'M LIKE, THIS IS OKAY. 193 00:08:46,634 --> 00:08:49,434 I CAN WIN BEST SCENE IF I JUST DO A GOOD ENOUGH JOB, YOU KNOW ? 194 00:08:49,500 --> 00:08:53,267 SO, I TELL MY PARENTS, SO THEY CAN SEE ME IN THE COMPETITION. 195 00:08:53,334 --> 00:08:56,701 AND THEY BROUGHT ME IN THE ROOM AND THEY SAT ME DOWN. 196 00:08:56,767 --> 00:08:59,133 AND THEY SAID THAT THEY WOULDN'T COME TO SEE ME 197 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:00,400 IF I DID THAT SCENE. 198 00:09:00,467 --> 00:09:01,300 THEY COULDN'T. WHY IS THAT ? 199 00:09:02,334 --> 00:09:05,133 BECAUSE THEY BELIEVE IT'S WRONG, 200 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:06,701 HOMOSEXUALITY IS WRONG. 201 00:09:06,767 --> 00:09:10,868 AND ALL I REMEMBER FROM THE COMPETITION 202 00:09:10,934 --> 00:09:14,734 IS JUST STANDING OVATION. 203 00:09:14,801 --> 00:09:15,734 OH, REALLY ? 204 00:09:15,801 --> 00:09:18,868 WE WON, WE GOT FIRST PLACE. 205 00:09:18,934 --> 00:09:21,801 ONE OF THE BEST MOMENTS OF MY LIFE. 206 00:09:21,868 --> 00:09:23,367 DID YOUR PARENTS COME ? 207 00:09:23,434 --> 00:09:25,801 PARENTS WEREN'T THERE. 208 00:09:25,868 --> 00:09:27,567 WHY'D YOU DO IT ? 209 00:09:27,634 --> 00:09:29,734 ACTUALLY, HONESTLY, 210 00:09:29,801 --> 00:09:32,167 I WANTED TO WIN. 211 00:09:32,234 --> 00:09:33,868 I REALLY... 212 00:09:33,934 --> 00:09:35,901 AND IT WAS THE GREATEST SCENE. 213 00:09:35,968 --> 00:09:37,100 YOU KNOW, I JUST WANTED-- 214 00:09:37,167 --> 00:09:39,300 I JUST WANTED TO WIN. 215 00:09:46,934 --> 00:09:48,500 TODAY, FOR THE FIRST TIME, 216 00:09:48,567 --> 00:09:51,634 I MET SOMEONE WHO ACTUALLY KNEW MATTHEW SHEPARD. 217 00:09:51,701 --> 00:09:54,067 TRISH STEGER, OWNER OF A SHOP IN TOWN, 218 00:09:54,133 --> 00:09:56,000 REFERRED TO HIM AS "MATT". 219 00:09:56,067 --> 00:09:59,767 MATT USED TO COME INTO MY SHOP, THAT'S HOW I KNEW HIM. 220 00:09:59,834 --> 00:10:02,667 IT WAS THE FIRST TIME I EVER HEARD HIM REFERRED TO AS "MATT" 221 00:10:02,734 --> 00:10:03,868 INSTEAD OF "MATTHEW". 222 00:10:03,934 --> 00:10:05,300 WELL, WHAT WAS HE LIKE ? 223 00:10:05,367 --> 00:10:07,367 I DON'T KNOW, YOU KNOW ? 224 00:10:07,434 --> 00:10:12,100 HOW DOES ANY ONE PERSON EVER TELL ABOUT ANOTHER ? 225 00:10:13,334 --> 00:10:14,701 MATT WAS A BLUNT LITTLE SHIT. 226 00:10:14,767 --> 00:10:16,167 YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING ? 227 00:10:16,234 --> 00:10:17,434 HE WAS A LITTLE GUY, 5'2". 228 00:10:17,500 --> 00:10:20,500 SOAKING WET, I BET YOU 97 POUNDS, TOPS. 229 00:10:20,567 --> 00:10:23,701 THEY WERE SAYING HE WEIGHED 110 POUNDS, I DON'T BELIEVE IT. 230 00:10:23,767 --> 00:10:25,367 I SAID, "ARE YOU MATTHEW SHEPARD ?" 231 00:10:25,434 --> 00:10:27,334 AND HE SAYS, "YEAH, I'M MATTHEW SHEPARD, 232 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:29,734 "BUT I DON'T WANT YOU TO CALL ME MATTHEW OR MR. SHEPARD. 233 00:10:29,801 --> 00:10:31,400 "DON'T CALL ME NONE OF THAT. 234 00:10:31,467 --> 00:10:35,234 "MY NAME IS MATT AND I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT I AM GAY. 235 00:10:35,300 --> 00:10:37,934 "AND WE'RE GONNA BE GOING TO A GAY BAR. 236 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:39,300 DO YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT ?" 237 00:10:39,367 --> 00:10:41,701 I SAID, "NO, HOW YOU PAYING ?" 238 00:10:41,767 --> 00:10:44,434 THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS 239 00:10:44,500 --> 00:10:46,400 LARAMIE DOESN'T HAVE ANY GAY BARS. 240 00:10:46,467 --> 00:10:48,834 WELL, FOR THAT MATTER, NEITHER DOES WYOMING. 241 00:10:48,901 --> 00:10:52,200 HE WAS HIRING ME TO TAKE HIM DOWN TO FORT COLLINS, COLORADO. 242 00:10:52,267 --> 00:10:54,534 WHICH IS ABOUT AN HOUR AWAY. 243 00:10:54,601 --> 00:10:56,334 HE WAS STRUGGLING WHEN HE FIRST CAME HERE, 244 00:10:56,400 --> 00:11:00,467 REACHING OUT, TRYING TO FIT IN. 245 00:11:02,567 --> 00:11:03,334 I'M SORRY I'M LATE. 246 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:05,567 HI, MY SISTER, ROMAINE. 247 00:11:07,067 --> 00:11:08,567 SHE WAS A CLOSE FRIEND OF MATTHEW'S. 248 00:11:08,634 --> 00:11:11,400 MATTHEW REALLY WANTED TO GET INTO POLITICAL AFFAIRS, 249 00:11:11,467 --> 00:11:14,000 THAT WAS ALL HIS BIG INTEREST WAS. 250 00:11:14,067 --> 00:11:16,767 WATCHING CNN AND MSNBC. 251 00:11:16,834 --> 00:11:20,634 THOSE WERE THE ONLY TV STATIONS I EVER SAW HIS TV TUNED INTO. 252 00:11:20,701 --> 00:11:22,868 SO, WHY DID HE MOVE TO LARAMIE ? 253 00:11:22,934 --> 00:11:25,901 HE TOLD ME HE WAS THINKING ABOUT GOING BACK TO SCHOOL. 254 00:11:25,968 --> 00:11:27,834 SO, I TOLD HIM, 255 00:11:27,901 --> 00:11:31,133 "GO TO THE UNIVERSITY OF WYOMING, GO TO LARAMIE. 256 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:33,334 YOU CAN REALLY FIND A HOME THERE." 257 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:35,701 I WAS MATTHEW'S ACADEMIC ADVISOR, 258 00:11:35,767 --> 00:11:38,834 SO, I KNEW HIM IN A VERY SPECIFIC CONTEXT. 259 00:11:38,901 --> 00:11:41,734 BUT I CAN TELL YOU THAT MATTHEW WAS VERY SHY 260 00:11:41,801 --> 00:11:43,267 WHEN HE FIRST CAME IN 261 00:11:43,334 --> 00:11:45,801 TO THE POINT OF BEING SOMEWHAT MOUSY, I'D ALMOST SAY. 262 00:11:45,868 --> 00:11:47,767 BUT SOON, HIS SHYNESS 263 00:11:47,834 --> 00:11:49,934 BEGAN TO GIVE WAY TO THIS PERSON THAT 264 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:53,767 WAS EXCITED ABOUT THIS TRACK THAT HE WAS GOING TO EMBARK ON. 265 00:11:53,834 --> 00:11:55,534 WHENEVER I THINK OF MATTHEW, I THINK OF HIS... 266 00:11:55,601 --> 00:11:58,601 INCREDIBLE BEAMING SMILE. 267 00:11:58,667 --> 00:12:02,500 HE'D WALK INTO A ROOM AND JUST BE LIKE... 268 00:12:04,100 --> 00:12:05,634 AND HE'D SMILE AT EVERYONE. 269 00:12:05,701 --> 00:12:07,701 HE MADE YOU FEEL GREAT. 270 00:12:07,767 --> 00:12:11,067 HE WAS JUST STARTING TO SAY, "THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES HERE. 271 00:12:11,133 --> 00:12:13,868 "THERE ARE THINGS I CAN DO IN THIS WORLD. 272 00:12:13,934 --> 00:12:15,767 I CAN BE IMPORTANT." 273 00:12:15,834 --> 00:12:19,033 I HEARD FROM MATT ABOUT 48 HOURS BEFORE THE ATTACK. 274 00:12:19,100 --> 00:12:21,534 AND HE TOLD ME HE JUST JOINED 275 00:12:21,601 --> 00:12:23,634 THE GAY AND LESBIAN GROUP ON CAMPUS. 276 00:12:23,701 --> 00:12:25,400 AND HE WAS REALLY ENJOYING IT, 277 00:12:25,467 --> 00:12:27,467 GETTING READY FOR PRIDE WEEK AND WHATNOT. 278 00:12:27,534 --> 00:12:30,133 HE WAS TOTALLY STOKED ABOUT SCHOOL. 279 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:32,801 HE WAS REALLY HAPPY BEING THERE. 280 00:12:32,868 --> 00:12:35,968 I CAN ONLY SAY THIS IN RETROSPECT, OF COURSE. 281 00:12:36,033 --> 00:12:38,100 I THINK THAT'S WHERE HE WAS HEADED, 282 00:12:38,167 --> 00:12:40,467 TOWARDS HUMAN RIGHTS. 283 00:12:48,300 --> 00:12:50,100 LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING HERE. 284 00:12:50,167 --> 00:12:52,100 THERE'S MORE GAY PEOPLE IN WYOMING THAN MEETS THE EYE. 285 00:12:52,167 --> 00:12:52,934 YOU THINK ? 286 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:55,100 I KNOW, I KNOW FOR A FACT. 287 00:12:55,167 --> 00:12:59,300 NOT PARTICULARLY, WHAT DO YOU CALL THE QUEENS, 288 00:12:59,367 --> 00:13:00,934 THE GAY PEOPLE ? 289 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:02,133 QUEENS ? 290 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:03,701 YOU KNOW, THE RUNAROUND FAGGOT-TYPE PEOPLE. 291 00:13:03,767 --> 00:13:05,968 I MEAN, THEY'RE MORE LIKE THE ONES WHO... 292 00:13:06,033 --> 00:13:09,667 THROW A BAIL OF HAY, JUMP ON A HORSE, BRAND HIM AND KICK ASS, 293 00:13:09,734 --> 00:13:11,701 YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING ? 294 00:13:11,767 --> 00:13:14,234 AS I ALWAYS SAY, YOU DON'T FUCK WITH A WYOMING QUEER 295 00:13:14,300 --> 00:13:16,534 'CAUSE THEY'LL FUCKING KICK YOU IN YOUR ASS. 296 00:13:16,601 --> 00:13:19,167 BUT THAT'S NOT THE POINT OF WHAT I'M SAYING. 297 00:13:19,234 --> 00:13:20,701 WHAT IS THE POINT ? 298 00:13:20,767 --> 00:13:23,801 THE PEOPLE OF WYOMING DO NOT GIVE A DAMN 299 00:13:23,868 --> 00:13:25,200 ONE WAY OR THE OTHER IF YOU'RE GAY, 300 00:13:25,267 --> 00:13:26,801 IF YOU'RE STRAIGHT, IF YOU'RE BISEXUAL, 301 00:13:26,868 --> 00:13:28,634 TRISEXUAL, DOESN'T MATTER. 302 00:13:28,701 --> 00:13:29,500 REALLY ? 303 00:13:29,567 --> 00:13:31,200 THAT'S WHAT I JUST SAID, IT DOESN'T MATTER. 304 00:13:31,267 --> 00:13:34,901 I WAS THE FIRST OUT LESBIAN OR GAY FACILITY MEMBER. 305 00:13:34,968 --> 00:13:37,100 AND THAT'S IN 1992, 306 00:13:37,167 --> 00:13:39,300 SO, THAT'S NOT THAT LONG AGO. 307 00:13:39,367 --> 00:13:42,434 THEY ASKED ME AT THE INTERVIEW WHAT MY HUSBAND DID. 308 00:13:42,500 --> 00:13:44,200 SO, I CAME OUT THEN. 309 00:13:44,267 --> 00:13:46,667 WHEN I FIRST MOVED OUT HERE, 310 00:13:46,734 --> 00:13:48,834 I KNEW IT WAS GONNA BE HARD AS A GAY MAN. 311 00:13:48,901 --> 00:13:52,000 AND THERE WOULD BE TIMES I WOULD GO DOWN TO DENVER 312 00:13:52,067 --> 00:13:54,200 AND I WOULD GO TO THE GAY BARS THERE. 313 00:13:54,267 --> 00:13:56,434 AND PEOPLE WOULD ASK ME WHERE I WAS FROM 314 00:13:56,500 --> 00:13:58,467 I WOULD SAY LARAMIE, WYOMING. 315 00:13:58,534 --> 00:14:02,601 AND I MET SO MANY MEN DOWN THERE 316 00:14:02,667 --> 00:14:04,500 FROM WYOMING. 317 00:14:04,567 --> 00:14:06,934 SO MANY GAY MEN WHO GREW UP HERE 318 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:09,434 AND THEY ARE LIKE, "THIS IS NOT A PLACE WHERE I CAN LIVE, 319 00:14:09,500 --> 00:14:11,434 HOW CAN YOU LIVE THERE, I HAD TO GET OUT." 320 00:14:11,500 --> 00:14:12,567 RAH, RAH, RAH... 321 00:14:12,634 --> 00:14:15,801 BUT EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE, THERE'D BE A GUY, 322 00:14:15,868 --> 00:14:18,100 "OH GOSH, I MISS LARAMIE. 323 00:14:18,167 --> 00:14:20,567 "I MEAN, I REALLY LOVE IT THERE. 324 00:14:20,634 --> 00:14:22,334 THAT'S WHERE I WANT TO LIVE." 325 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:25,767 THEY GET THIS STARRY-EYED LOOK 326 00:14:25,834 --> 00:14:28,567 AND I THINK, IF THAT IS WHERE YOU WANT TO LIVE, 327 00:14:28,634 --> 00:14:30,434 DO IT. 328 00:14:30,500 --> 00:14:32,734 SO, I GET INTO MY OFFICE ONE DAY 329 00:14:32,801 --> 00:14:35,067 AND I HAVE A MESSAGE TO CALL THIS WOMAN BACK, 330 00:14:35,133 --> 00:14:35,901 SO, I CALL HER BACK. 331 00:14:35,968 --> 00:14:37,634 AND SHE GOES, "I HEAR YOU ARE A LESBIAN. 332 00:14:37,701 --> 00:14:39,801 I HEAR YOU ARE ONE." 333 00:14:39,868 --> 00:14:41,634 AND I'M LIKE, "UH-HUH." 334 00:14:41,701 --> 00:14:43,601 SHE GOES, "I'M ONE TOO." 335 00:14:43,667 --> 00:14:45,901 SHE WANTED TO COME OVER AND MEET ME IMMEDIATELY. 336 00:14:45,968 --> 00:14:47,601 SHE ALSOARNED ME ABOUT THE FACT 337 00:14:47,667 --> 00:14:50,033 THAT THERE'S OTHER LESBIANS IN THIS TOWN 338 00:14:50,100 --> 00:14:52,234 WHO WOULD NOT BE SEEN WITH ME, 339 00:14:52,300 --> 00:14:55,767 THAT JUST TO BE SEEN WITH ME WOULD TAKE THEM IRREPARABLY. 340 00:14:55,834 --> 00:15:00,000 THAT JUST TO BE SEEN WITH ME WOULD BE A BIG PROBLEM. 341 00:15:02,467 --> 00:15:04,234 I LOVE THIS LAND. 342 00:15:04,300 --> 00:15:05,968 I MEAN, 343 00:15:06,033 --> 00:15:09,634 I REALLY LOVE THIS LAND. 344 00:15:24,934 --> 00:15:26,834 OKAY, I'M GONNA MAKE THIS BRIEF, QUICK. 345 00:15:26,901 --> 00:15:28,267 JUST GET IT OVER WITH. 346 00:15:28,334 --> 00:15:30,968 BUT IT WILL BE EVERYTHING, FACTUAL, JUST THE FACTS. 347 00:15:31,033 --> 00:15:33,601 10:00, I PUNCH IN, MY REGULAR TIME FOR TUESDAYS. 348 00:15:33,667 --> 00:15:35,934 10:30, WE'RE HAVING KARAOKE NIGHT THAT NIGHT, 349 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:38,133 SO, THERE'S MAYBE 20, 30 PEOPLE MILLING AROUND IN HERE. 350 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:40,467 THAT'S WHEN MATTHEW SHEPARD COMES IN ALONE. 351 00:15:40,534 --> 00:15:42,167 HE COMES IN AND... 352 00:15:42,234 --> 00:15:45,300 HE ACTUALLY SITS RIGHT WHERE YOU'RE SITTING RIGHT NOW. 353 00:15:45,367 --> 00:15:47,400 ORDERS HIMSELF A HEINEKEN. 354 00:15:47,467 --> 00:15:49,167 SO, WHAT CAN I TELL YOU ABOUT MATT ? 355 00:15:49,234 --> 00:15:53,467 MANNERS, POLITENESS INTELLIGENCE, 356 00:15:53,534 --> 00:15:55,200 TAKING CARE OF ME, AS IN TIPS. 357 00:15:55,267 --> 00:15:57,667 EVERYTHING, JUST OFFERS CONVERSATION. 358 00:15:57,734 --> 00:16:00,500 HE COMES IN, HE'S ALWAYS DRESSED REAL NICE, CLEAN CUT. 359 00:16:00,567 --> 00:16:01,500 DIDN'T SEEM TO HAVE ANY WORRIES. 360 00:16:01,567 --> 00:16:03,334 IT WASN'T LIKE HE WAS WAITING ON ANYBODY. 361 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:06,367 HE JUST WANTED TO ENJOY HIS DRINK AND THE COMPANY AROUND. 362 00:16:12,901 --> 00:16:16,000 I GUESS IT WAS MAYBE 11:30, 11:45, THAT'S WHEN... 363 00:16:16,067 --> 00:16:19,067 RUSSELL HENDERSON AND AARON McKINNEY CAME IN. 364 00:16:19,133 --> 00:16:21,367 THEY COME IN, THEY APPROACH THE BAR, THEY SIT RIGHT HERE. 365 00:16:21,434 --> 00:16:23,400 THEY ORDER A PITCHER AND AS YOU KNOW, 366 00:16:23,467 --> 00:16:26,634 THEY PAY FOR THE THING ENTIRELY IN DIMES AND QUARTERS, 367 00:16:26,701 --> 00:16:29,200 WHICH, LET ME TELL YOU, IS SOMETHING YOU JUST DON'T FORGET. 368 00:16:29,267 --> 00:16:31,100 YOU DON'T FORGET SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 369 00:16:31,167 --> 00:16:33,000 $5.50 IN DIMES AND QUARTERS 370 00:16:33,067 --> 00:16:34,434 IS A FREAKIN' NIGHTMARE FOR A BARTENDER. 371 00:16:34,500 --> 00:16:36,667 MONEY MEANT NOTHING TO MATTHEW, 372 00:16:36,734 --> 00:16:38,701 'CAUSE HE GREW UP WITH A LOT OF IT. 373 00:16:38,767 --> 00:16:40,834 AND HE'D HAVE HANDED OVER HIS WALLET IN A SECOND 374 00:16:40,901 --> 00:16:43,067 BECAUSE MONEY MEANT NOTHING TO HIM. 375 00:16:43,133 --> 00:16:45,234 HIS SHOES MIGHT'VE MEANT SOMETHING, BUT... 376 00:16:45,300 --> 00:16:48,033 THEY CAN SAY IT WAS ROBBERY ALL THEY WANT TO, 377 00:16:48,100 --> 00:16:51,868 BUT I DON'T BUY IT, NOT EVEN FOR AN IOTA OF A SECOND. 378 00:16:51,934 --> 00:16:53,567 LOOK, WHEN THEY CAME IN, 379 00:16:53,634 --> 00:16:56,534 HENDERSON AND McKINNEY TO ME, THEY DIDN'T SEEM TO BE... 380 00:16:56,601 --> 00:16:59,000 THEY WEREN'T INTOXIFICATED AT ALL. 381 00:16:59,067 --> 00:17:01,267 THEY CAME RIGHT IN, THEY ORDERED A PITCHER OF BEER, 382 00:17:01,334 --> 00:17:02,667 TAKE IT BACK THERE INTO THE POOL AREA 383 00:17:02,734 --> 00:17:05,267 AND THEY PRETTY MUCH JUST KEPT TO THEMSELVES. 384 00:17:07,234 --> 00:17:08,701 PROBABLY GOING ON FOR ABOUT A HALF AN HOUR. 385 00:17:08,767 --> 00:17:10,234 AND THEN, I NOTICED THAT RUSSELL AND AARON 386 00:17:10,300 --> 00:17:12,234 HAD BEEN TALKING WITH MATTHEW SHEPARD. 387 00:17:12,300 --> 00:17:15,634 SOME PEOPLE ARE SAYING HE MADE A PASS AT THEM. 388 00:17:15,701 --> 00:17:19,567 WELL, HELL, YOU DON'T PICK UP REGULAR PEOPLE. 389 00:17:20,534 --> 00:17:23,334 AARON AND I HAVE BEEN TOGETHER FOR TWO YEARS. 390 00:17:24,534 --> 00:17:28,200 AND AARON SAID THAT A GUY WALKED UP TO HIM AND SAID HE WAS GAY 391 00:17:28,267 --> 00:17:30,434 AND WANTED TO GET WITH HIM AND RUSS. 392 00:17:30,500 --> 00:17:32,434 AND AARON'S REALLY BAD ABOUT THAT. 393 00:17:32,500 --> 00:17:34,534 HE DOESN'T LIKE TO BE AROUND GAY PEOPLE AT ALL 394 00:17:34,601 --> 00:17:35,868 AND NEITHER DOES RUSS. 395 00:17:35,934 --> 00:17:37,300 THEY JUST DON'T LIKE THEM. 396 00:17:37,367 --> 00:17:38,834 AT ALL. 397 00:17:38,901 --> 00:17:41,133 AND SO, HE GOT AGGRAVATED WITH IT. 398 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:42,534 AND SAID THAT HE WAS STRAIGHT 399 00:17:42,601 --> 00:17:44,500 AND HE DIDN'T WANT TO HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH IT 400 00:17:44,567 --> 00:17:45,734 AND HE WALKED OFF. 401 00:17:45,801 --> 00:17:49,400 AND HE SAID THAT'S WHEN HIM AND RUSS WENT INTO THE BATHROOM 402 00:17:49,467 --> 00:17:51,467 AND DECIDED TO PRETEND THAT THEY WERE GAY 403 00:17:51,534 --> 00:17:53,601 AND GET HIM IN THE TRUCK AND ROB HIM. 404 00:17:53,667 --> 00:17:55,968 THEY WANTED TO TEACH HIM A LESSON 405 00:17:56,033 --> 00:17:58,267 NOT TO COME ON TO STRAIGHT PEOPLE. 406 00:17:58,334 --> 00:18:01,000 I'M NOT EXCUSING THEIR ACTIONS, 407 00:18:01,067 --> 00:18:03,500 BUT IT SEEMS TO BE PARTIALLY HIS FAULT 408 00:18:03,567 --> 00:18:05,934 AND PARTIALLY THE GUYS WHO DID IT. 409 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:07,133 SO, YOU KNOW... 410 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:09,601 MAYBE IT'S 50/50. 411 00:18:09,667 --> 00:18:11,567 THEY STATED THAT MATT CAME ON TO THEM. 412 00:18:11,634 --> 00:18:12,634 THAT HE APPROACHED THEM. 413 00:18:12,701 --> 00:18:15,300 I ABSOLUTELY POSITIVELY DISBELIEVE 414 00:18:15,367 --> 00:18:17,534 AND REFUTE THAT STATEMENT 100%. 415 00:18:17,601 --> 00:18:18,901 I'LL GIVE YOU TWO REASONS WHY. 416 00:18:18,968 --> 00:18:20,133 ONE... CHARACTER REFERENCE. 417 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:21,601 WHY WOULD HE APPROACH THEM ? 418 00:18:21,667 --> 00:18:22,968 WHY THEM ? 419 00:18:23,033 --> 00:18:24,200 I MEAN, HE WASN'T APPROACHING ANYONE ELSE IN THE BAR, OKAY ? 420 00:18:24,267 --> 00:18:27,033 SO, I MEAN, THEY SAY HE'S GAY, THAT HE WAS A FLAMING GAY. 421 00:18:27,100 --> 00:18:28,367 SO, HE WAS JUST GONNA COME ON TO PEOPLE. 422 00:18:28,434 --> 00:18:30,033 BULLSHIT, HE NEVER CAME ON TO ME. 423 00:18:30,100 --> 00:18:31,367 I MEAN, HELLO, C'MON ! 424 00:18:31,434 --> 00:18:33,067 HE'S GONNA APPROACH THESE TWO GUYS ? PLEASE. 425 00:18:33,133 --> 00:18:34,968 AND, TWO... 426 00:18:35,033 --> 00:18:36,067 TERRITORIALISM. 427 00:18:36,133 --> 00:18:37,634 MATT WAS SITTING THERE. 428 00:18:37,701 --> 00:18:39,767 AARON AND RUSSELL WERE BACK THERE. 429 00:18:39,834 --> 00:18:42,701 UPON THEIR FIRST INTERACTION, THEY WERE IN MATT'S AREA. 430 00:18:42,767 --> 00:18:45,801 THE AREA THAT HE HAD BEEN SEEN SITTING IN ALL NIGHT LONG. 431 00:18:45,868 --> 00:18:47,500 SO, WHO APPROACHED WHO BY THAT ? 432 00:18:47,567 --> 00:18:51,267 HE'D NEVER NOT TALK TO SOMEONE FOR ANY REASON. 433 00:18:51,334 --> 00:18:52,901 IF SOMEONE STARTED TALKING TO HIM, 434 00:18:52,968 --> 00:18:55,167 HE'D JUST BE LIKE, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH. 435 00:18:55,234 --> 00:18:57,701 HE HAD NO PROBLEM 436 00:18:57,767 --> 00:18:59,634 JUST STRIKING UP A CONVERSATION WITH ANYBODY. 437 00:18:59,701 --> 00:19:02,067 SO, THIS IS WHAT I'M GONNA BE TESTIFYING TO 438 00:19:02,133 --> 00:19:04,868 'CAUSE BASICALLY I'M LIKE, THE KEY EYEWITNESS IN THE CASE. 439 00:19:04,934 --> 00:19:06,767 BASICALLY, I'M GONNA BE TESTIFYING 440 00:19:06,834 --> 00:19:08,567 THAT I SAW MATTHEW LEAVE. 441 00:19:08,634 --> 00:19:11,567 I SAW TWO INDIVIDUALS LEAVE WITH MATTHEW SHEPARD. 442 00:19:11,634 --> 00:19:12,834 AND I DIDN'T SEE THEIR FACES, 443 00:19:12,901 --> 00:19:14,234 BUT I DID SEE THE BACK OF THEIR HEADS. 444 00:19:14,300 --> 00:19:15,167 AND AT THE SAME TIME, 445 00:19:15,234 --> 00:19:16,767 McKINNEY AND HENDERSON ARE NO LONGER AROUND. 446 00:19:16,834 --> 00:19:18,334 SO, YOU DO THE MATH. 447 00:20:05,234 --> 00:20:06,901 I'M NOT SUPER FAMILIAR WITH THAT AREA 448 00:20:06,968 --> 00:20:11,234 WHICH NOW MAKES ME THINK THAT GOD WANTED ME 449 00:20:11,300 --> 00:20:15,100 TO FIND HIM. 450 00:20:15,567 --> 00:20:17,567 I WAS GOING FOR A RIDE ON MY BIKE 451 00:20:17,634 --> 00:20:20,000 AND I NOTICED SOMETHING... 452 00:20:20,067 --> 00:20:21,567 JUST LAYING THERE, 453 00:20:21,634 --> 00:20:23,133 BY THE FENCE. 454 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:28,033 NOW, I THINK IT'S A SCARECROW. 455 00:20:28,734 --> 00:20:30,167 I'M LIKE, HALLOWEEN'S COMING UP. 456 00:20:30,234 --> 00:20:31,801 I THINK IT'S A... 457 00:20:31,868 --> 00:20:33,334 HALLOWEEN GAG. 458 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:37,133 I NOTICED HIS CHEST MOVING UP AND DOWN, 459 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:40,467 STILL THOUGHT IT WAS A DUMMY. 460 00:20:40,534 --> 00:20:43,500 I THOUGHT IT WAS SOME KIND OF MECHANISM. 461 00:20:45,367 --> 00:20:47,467 BUT WHEN I... 462 00:20:49,367 --> 00:20:51,400 WHEN I SAW HAIR... 463 00:20:52,968 --> 00:20:54,634 HIS HAIR... 464 00:20:57,067 --> 00:20:59,667 ... I KNEW IT WAS A HUMAN BEING. 465 00:21:01,734 --> 00:21:03,100 SO, WHAT'D YOU DO ? 466 00:21:03,167 --> 00:21:06,033 I RAN TO THE NEAREST HOUSE, I RAN AS FAST AS I COULD, 467 00:21:06,100 --> 00:21:07,834 AND CALLED THE POLICE. 468 00:21:09,701 --> 00:21:10,968 ... County sheriff's department held a news conference 469 00:21:11,033 --> 00:21:12,067 late this afternoon. 470 00:21:12,133 --> 00:21:14,734 They say they're investigating the attempted murder 471 00:21:14,801 --> 00:21:16,801 of 22-year-old Matthew Shepard. 472 00:21:16,868 --> 00:21:19,100 The sheriff said deputies found the man badly beaten 473 00:21:19,167 --> 00:21:22,300 and unconscious, tied to a fence last night... 474 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:27,000 ( female on radio ) ... brutal attack left Matthew Shepard in a coma. 475 00:21:27,067 --> 00:21:31,033 ( male on radio ) ... said he first thought Mr. Shepard was a scarecrow. 476 00:21:31,100 --> 00:21:32,601 ... in jail now charged with the crime, 477 00:21:32,667 --> 00:21:36,100 21-year-old Russell Henderson and Aaron McKinney, kidnapping. 478 00:21:36,167 --> 00:21:39,300 And the victim, Matthew Shepard, is in very critical condition 479 00:21:39,367 --> 00:21:42,334 at this hour at Poudre Valley hospital. 480 00:21:48,300 --> 00:21:50,734 THE ARRAIGNMENT TOOK PLACE ON FRIDAY AROUND LUNCHTIME. 481 00:21:50,801 --> 00:21:53,868 AND MORE DETAILS ABOUT THE CASE HAD COME OUT 482 00:21:53,934 --> 00:21:56,033 LIKE THE FACT THAT THE PERPETRATORS THEMSELVES 483 00:21:56,100 --> 00:21:57,534 WERE KIDS. 484 00:21:57,601 --> 00:21:59,901 KIDS, LOCAL KIDS, 485 00:21:59,968 --> 00:22:01,300 THAT EVERYONE WHO'S FROM AROUND HERE 486 00:22:01,367 --> 00:22:03,067 HAS SOME RELATIONSHIP TO. 487 00:22:09,334 --> 00:22:11,734 SO, THEN A JUDGE COMES IN AND DOES A READING OF THE FACTS. 488 00:22:11,801 --> 00:22:14,033 THE DEFENDANTS, 489 00:22:14,100 --> 00:22:15,801 AARON JAMES McKINNEY, 490 00:22:15,868 --> 00:22:17,868 RUSSELL ARTHUR HENDERSON, 491 00:22:17,934 --> 00:22:20,701 MET MATTHEW SHEPARD AT THE FIRESIDE BAR. 492 00:22:20,767 --> 00:22:24,067 AND AFTER MR. SHEPARD CONFIDED HE WAS GAY, 493 00:22:24,133 --> 00:22:25,801 THE SUBJECTS DECEIVED MR. SHEPARD 494 00:22:25,868 --> 00:22:29,467 INTO LEAVING WITH THEM IN THEIR VEHICLE TO A REMOTE AREA. 495 00:22:29,534 --> 00:22:33,000 ENROUTE TO SAID LOCATION, 496 00:22:33,067 --> 00:22:35,701 MR. SHEPARD WAS STRUCK IN THE HEAD WITH A PISTOL. 497 00:22:35,767 --> 00:22:38,067 AND UPON ARRIVAL AT SAID AREA, 498 00:22:38,133 --> 00:22:41,467 BOTH SUBJECTS TIED THEIR VICTIM TO A BUCK FENCE, 499 00:22:41,534 --> 00:22:44,100 ROBBED HIM, TORTURED HIM, 500 00:22:44,167 --> 00:22:46,968 AND CONTINUED TO BEAT AND TERRORIZE HIM. 501 00:22:47,033 --> 00:22:49,300 WHEN I GOT TO THE FENCE, 502 00:22:49,367 --> 00:22:52,400 I SEEN WHAT APPEARED TO BE A YOUNG MAN. 503 00:22:52,467 --> 00:22:55,601 13, 14, YEARS OF AGE 504 00:22:55,667 --> 00:22:57,500 BECAUSE HE WAS SO TINY LAYING THERE 505 00:22:57,567 --> 00:23:00,601 AND HE WAS BOUND TO THE BOTTOM OF THE POLE. 506 00:23:00,667 --> 00:23:04,033 WHAT DID YOU DO ? 507 00:23:04,100 --> 00:23:05,968 I DID THE BEST I COULD. 508 00:23:06,033 --> 00:23:08,234 HE WAS COVERED IN DRY BLOOD ALL OVER HIS HEAD 509 00:23:08,300 --> 00:23:10,133 AND THE ONLY PLACE THAT THERE WASN'T ANY BLOOD 510 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:14,634 WAS WHAT APPEARED TO BE WHERE HE HAD BEEN CRYING DOWN HIS FACE. 511 00:23:14,701 --> 00:23:17,200 YOU KNOW, HE... 512 00:23:17,267 --> 00:23:19,534 HE DID NOT LOOK NORMAL. 513 00:23:19,601 --> 00:23:23,801 I COULD TELL THAT HE HAD A VERY HARSH HEAD WOUND. 514 00:23:23,868 --> 00:23:25,901 YOU EXPECT THESE KINDS OF INJURIES 515 00:23:25,968 --> 00:23:28,100 FROM SOMEBODY CRASHING DOWN A HILL 516 00:23:28,167 --> 00:23:29,534 IN A CAR AT 80 MILES AN HOUR. 517 00:23:29,601 --> 00:23:33,133 YOU EXPECT TO SEE GROSS INJURIES FROM SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 518 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:35,334 THIS IS A HORRENDOUS, TERRIBLE THING. 519 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:38,400 BUT YOU DON'T EXPECT TO SEE SOMEONE DOING THIS 520 00:23:38,467 --> 00:23:40,000 TO ANOTHER PERSON. 521 00:23:40,067 --> 00:23:42,801 BOTH DEFENDANTS WERE LATER CONTACTED BY OFFICERS 522 00:23:42,868 --> 00:23:44,601 FROM THE LARAMIE POLICE DEPARTMENT 523 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:46,801 WHO OBSERVED INSIDE THE CAB OF THEIR PICK-UP 524 00:23:46,868 --> 00:23:48,234 A CREDIT CARD 525 00:23:48,300 --> 00:23:49,901 AND A PAIR OF BLACK PATENT-LEATHER SHOES 526 00:23:49,968 --> 00:23:52,567 BELONGING TO THE VICTIM, MATTHEW SHEPARD. 527 00:23:52,634 --> 00:23:53,868 THE THING THAT SHOCKED ME IS... 528 00:23:53,934 --> 00:23:56,100 IT WAS A PRISTINE CRIME SCENE. 529 00:23:56,167 --> 00:23:57,734 HOW DO YOU MEAN ? 530 00:23:57,801 --> 00:23:59,434 THE TIRE TRACKS, 531 00:23:59,500 --> 00:24:01,100 THE IMPRESSIONS THAT THE TIRE MADE. 532 00:24:01,167 --> 00:24:03,868 THEY WERE JUST PERFECT BECAUSE OF THE SANDY SOIL THERE. 533 00:24:03,934 --> 00:24:05,200 AND WE FOUND A CARPET FRAGMENT 534 00:24:05,267 --> 00:24:06,701 FROM INSIDE THE TRUCK 535 00:24:06,767 --> 00:24:09,033 AND THAT WILL ALWAYS SHOCK ME UNTIL THIS DAY. 536 00:24:09,100 --> 00:24:11,234 SOUTHEAST FROM WYOMING, THE WIND HERE IS SO STRONG 537 00:24:11,300 --> 00:24:13,067 THAT YOU USUALLY NEVER FIND SOMETHING LIKE THAT 538 00:24:13,133 --> 00:24:15,434 IN AN EXTERIOR CRIME SCENE. 539 00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:18,634 HIS HANDS WERE... 540 00:24:18,701 --> 00:24:20,734 THUMBS OUT, WHAT WE CALL THE CUFFING POSITION. 541 00:24:20,801 --> 00:24:21,734 IT'S HOW WE HANDCUFF PEOPLE. 542 00:24:21,801 --> 00:24:24,801 HE WAS TIED WITH A REAL THIN, WHITE ROPE. 543 00:24:24,868 --> 00:24:27,701 AND IT WAS WOUND AROUND THE BOTTOM OF THE POLE 544 00:24:27,767 --> 00:24:31,000 ABOUT FOUR INCHES UP OFF THE GROUND. 545 00:24:32,234 --> 00:24:33,834 HIS SHOES WERE MISSING. 546 00:24:33,901 --> 00:24:36,634 HE WAS TIED EXTREMELY TIGHT, 547 00:24:36,701 --> 00:24:39,033 SO, I USED MY BOOT KNIFE AND I TRIED TO SLIP IT IN THERE 548 00:24:39,100 --> 00:24:40,934 BETWEEN THE ROPE AND HIS WRIST. 549 00:24:42,634 --> 00:24:44,534 I HAD TO BE EXTREMELY CAREFUL 550 00:24:44,601 --> 00:24:47,901 SO AS NOT TO HARM MATTHEW ANY FURTHER. 551 00:24:48,801 --> 00:24:50,534 I WAS YELLG AT HIM AT THE TOP OF MY LUNGS, 552 00:24:50,601 --> 00:24:52,100 "HEY, WAKE UP !" 553 00:24:52,167 --> 00:24:53,334 SOMETHING. 554 00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:54,267 JUST TRYING TO GET ANYTHING OUT OF HIM. 555 00:24:54,334 --> 00:24:56,934 HE DIDN'T MOVE, HE DIDN'T FLINCH, 556 00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:58,067 HE DIDN'T ANYTHING. 557 00:24:58,133 --> 00:25:00,467 WE ROLLED HIM OVER ONTO HIS LEFT SIDE 558 00:25:00,534 --> 00:25:02,934 AND WHEN WE DID THAT, HE STOPPED BREATHING. 559 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:05,100 SO, I IMMEDIATELY GOT HIM BACK ON HIS BACK. 560 00:25:05,167 --> 00:25:08,067 AND THAT WAS JUST ENOUGH OF AN ADJUSTMENT. 561 00:25:08,133 --> 00:25:11,868 IT GAVE ME JUST ENOUGH ROOM FOR ME TO SLIP MY KNIFE IN THERE 562 00:25:11,934 --> 00:25:13,500 AND TO CUT HIM FREE. 563 00:25:13,567 --> 00:25:16,067 AND THEN ROB DROVE THE AMBULANCE 564 00:25:16,133 --> 00:25:19,133 TO IVINSON HOSPITAL'S EMERGENCY ROOM. 565 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:20,334 ONCE WE SAW MATTHEW, 566 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:22,200 IT WAS VERY OBVIOUS THAT HIS CARE 567 00:25:22,267 --> 00:25:24,000 WAS BEYOND OUR CAPABILITIES. 568 00:25:24,067 --> 00:25:27,400 PHONED THE NEUROSURGEON OVER AT POUDRE VALLEY... 569 00:25:28,467 --> 00:25:31,100 AND MATTHEW WAS ON HIS WAY 570 00:25:31,167 --> 00:25:33,734 IN AN HOUR AND 15 MINUTES I THINK. 571 00:25:34,767 --> 00:25:38,100 A COUPLE DAYS LATER, THEY SHOWED ME A PICTURE OF MATTHEW. 572 00:25:39,734 --> 00:25:42,734 I WOULD'VE NEVER RECOGNIZED HIM. 573 00:25:45,300 --> 00:25:47,300 SAID DEFENDANTS LEFT THE VICTIM 574 00:25:47,367 --> 00:25:49,234 TIED TO THE FENCE 575 00:25:49,300 --> 00:25:52,434 BEGGING FOR HIS LIFE. 576 00:25:55,701 --> 00:25:57,467 CERTAINLY YOU'D LIKE TO THINK THAT THIS IS SOMEBODY 577 00:25:57,534 --> 00:25:59,968 FROM OUT OF TOWN WHO'S COME THROUGH AND BEATEN UP SOMEBODY. 578 00:26:00,033 --> 00:26:03,500 BUT WHEN YOU'RE SEEING SOMEONE WHO'S BEEN BEATEN... 579 00:26:03,567 --> 00:26:07,267 REPEATEDLY BY SOMEONE IN OUR OWN TOWN... 580 00:26:07,334 --> 00:26:10,334 NOW, THAT CERTAINLY OFFENDS US. 581 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:12,067 AND THAT'S A GOOD WORD 582 00:26:12,133 --> 00:26:14,567 IT OFFENDS US. 583 00:26:15,067 --> 00:26:16,934 THE DEFENDANTS WILL REMAIN IN THE CUSTODY 584 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:18,968 OF THE ALBANY COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT 585 00:26:19,033 --> 00:26:22,000 UNTIL DATES CAN BE SET FOR THEIR TRIALS. 586 00:26:43,734 --> 00:26:45,167 IT WAS HUGE. 587 00:26:45,234 --> 00:26:46,167 YEAH, IT WAS HERDS. 588 00:26:46,234 --> 00:26:47,868 AND WE ARE TALKING HUNDREDS OF REPORTERS 589 00:26:47,934 --> 00:26:50,367 WHICH MAKES A HUGE DENT IN THIS TOWN'S POPULATION. 590 00:26:50,434 --> 00:26:51,367 Laramie, Wyoming, 591 00:26:51,434 --> 00:26:53,601 often called "The Gem City of the Plains", 592 00:26:53,667 --> 00:26:55,033 is now at the eye of the storm. 593 00:26:55,100 --> 00:26:56,634 People would like to think that 594 00:26:56,701 --> 00:26:58,601 what happened to Matthew Shepard is the exception... 595 00:26:58,667 --> 00:27:00,300 THERE WERE REPORTERS EVERYWHERE, 596 00:27:00,367 --> 00:27:01,767 NEWS TRUCKS EVERYWHERE IN TOWN, 597 00:27:01,834 --> 00:27:03,200 EVERYWHERE ON CAMPUS. 598 00:27:03,267 --> 00:27:05,734 AND WE ARE NOT USED TO THAT TYPE OF ATTENTION. 599 00:27:05,801 --> 00:27:07,567 Aaron McKinney and his friend, Russell Henderson, 600 00:27:07,634 --> 00:27:09,567 came from the poor side of town. 601 00:27:09,634 --> 00:27:12,500 This small city that builds itself as Wyoming's hometown 602 00:27:12,567 --> 00:27:15,334 is wrestling with its attitudes towards gay men. 603 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:17,467 It's a tough business Matt Shepard knew, 604 00:27:17,534 --> 00:27:21,500 and as all his friends know, to be gay in cowboy country. 605 00:27:21,567 --> 00:27:24,701 AND TO GET THAT KIND OF EXPOSURE UNDER SUCH TRAGIC CIRCUMSTANCES, 606 00:27:24,767 --> 00:27:27,133 UNDER CIRCUMSTANCES THAT WE HADN'T EVEN 607 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:31,000 WRAPPED OUR OWN HEADS AND HEARTS AROUND. 608 00:27:32,300 --> 00:27:34,200 THE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE HERE ARE GOOD PEOPLE. 609 00:27:34,267 --> 00:27:35,234 YOU GET BAD APPLES ONCE IN A WHILE. 610 00:27:35,300 --> 00:27:37,467 OUR CITIZENS ARE NOT LIKE THAT AT ALL. 611 00:27:37,534 --> 00:27:39,834 YOU PEOPLE ARE MAKING MY SON GUILTY 612 00:27:39,901 --> 00:27:41,267 BEFORE HE'S EVEN HAD A TRIAL. 613 00:27:41,334 --> 00:27:42,467 HOW CAN THIS HAPPEN ? 614 00:27:42,534 --> 00:27:45,934 I CAN'T UNDERSTAND HOW SOMEONE CAN EVEN DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 615 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:48,467 YOU HAVE YOUR OWN LIFESTYLE, YOU SHOULD HAVE YOUR LIFESTYLE. 616 00:27:48,534 --> 00:27:50,634 IT'S PRETTY MUCH LIVE AND LET LIVE. 617 00:27:50,701 --> 00:27:51,801 IT'S LIVE AND LET LIVE. 618 00:27:51,868 --> 00:27:53,701 I AM OUTRAGED AND SICKENED 619 00:27:53,767 --> 00:27:56,167 BY THE HEINOUS CRIME COMMITTED ON MATTHEW SHEPARD. 620 00:27:56,234 --> 00:27:58,400 The young gay man is in a deep coma. 621 00:27:58,467 --> 00:28:00,667 It's a crime that goes beyond despicable. 622 00:28:00,734 --> 00:28:02,434 JUST LET IT BE KNOWN THROUGHOUT THE NATION, 623 00:28:02,500 --> 00:28:04,234 THIS IS NOT THE UNIVERSITY OF WYOMING. 624 00:28:04,300 --> 00:28:05,667 THIS IS NOT WHAT WE'RE ABOUT. 625 00:28:05,734 --> 00:28:06,868 HAD THIS BEEN A HETEROSEXUAL, 626 00:28:06,934 --> 00:28:08,667 THIS NEVER WOULD'VE MADE THE NATIONAL NEWS. 627 00:28:08,734 --> 00:28:10,067 I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY PROBLEM 628 00:28:10,133 --> 00:28:11,601 THAT GAY PEOPLE DEAL WITH HERE. 629 00:28:11,667 --> 00:28:14,267 WE HAD THESE GUYS IN JAIL IN LESS THAN A DAY. 630 00:28:14,334 --> 00:28:15,567 I THINK THAT'S PRETTY DAMN GOOD. 631 00:28:15,634 --> 00:28:17,901 ( female ) Hundreds of people are urging Congress 632 00:28:17,968 --> 00:28:19,234 to pass a federal law... 633 00:28:19,300 --> 00:28:22,167 I would like to urge the people of Wyoming 634 00:28:22,234 --> 00:28:24,467 against overreacting in a way that 635 00:28:24,534 --> 00:28:26,534 gives one group special rights over others. 636 00:28:26,601 --> 00:28:28,901 We will wait and see if the vicious beating and torture 637 00:28:28,968 --> 00:28:32,667 of Matthew Shepard was motivated by hate. 638 00:28:35,133 --> 00:28:37,734 OH, MY GOD. 639 00:28:39,968 --> 00:28:42,367 ANYBODY ELSE WANT TO DO THIS ? 640 00:28:52,567 --> 00:28:56,234 MATTHEW SHEPARD WAS ADMITTED IN CRITICAL CONDITION 641 00:28:56,300 --> 00:29:00,400 AT APPROXIMATELY 9:15 ON OCTOBER 7. 642 00:29:00,467 --> 00:29:04,000 When he arrived he was unresponsive 643 00:29:04,067 --> 00:29:06,834 and breathing support was being provided. 644 00:29:06,901 --> 00:29:10,567 Matthew's major injuries upon arrival consisted of 645 00:29:10,634 --> 00:29:14,400 hypothermia and of a fracture from behind his head, 646 00:29:14,467 --> 00:29:17,901 to just in front of the right ear. 647 00:29:17,968 --> 00:29:21,701 THIS HAS CAUSED BLEEDING IN THE BRAIN 648 00:29:21,767 --> 00:29:24,500 AS WELL AS PRESSURE ON THE BRAIN. 649 00:29:24,567 --> 00:29:26,534 FRIDAY NIGHT, THE PARENTS ARRIVED 650 00:29:26,601 --> 00:29:29,701 AND I WENT UP AND INTRODUCED MYSELF TO DENNIS AND JUDY 651 00:29:29,767 --> 00:29:33,567 AND IT WAS AWFUL, THOSE POOR PEOPLE. 652 00:29:33,634 --> 00:29:36,434 MATTHEW'S TEMPERATURE HAS FLUCTUATED 653 00:29:36,500 --> 00:29:38,767 OVER THE LAST 24 HOURS 654 00:29:38,834 --> 00:29:42,200 BETWEEN 98 AND 106 DEGREES. 655 00:29:42,267 --> 00:29:44,467 WE ARRANGED A POLICE ESCORT TO BRING THEM UP. 656 00:29:44,534 --> 00:29:47,400 SET THEM UP IN ONE OF OUR CONFERENCE ROOMS, 657 00:29:47,467 --> 00:29:50,133 GAVE THEM FOOD AROUND THE CLOCK, GAVE THEM A PLACE TO STAY. 658 00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:53,434 THE FOLLOWING IS A STATEMENT FROM THEM. 659 00:29:53,934 --> 00:29:56,200 "First of all, we want to thank the American public 660 00:29:56,267 --> 00:29:59,167 "for their kind thoughts about Matthew 661 00:29:59,234 --> 00:30:01,734 "and their fond wishes for his speedy recovery. 662 00:30:01,801 --> 00:30:04,868 "We appreciate your prayers and goodwill 663 00:30:04,934 --> 00:30:06,067 "and we know that 664 00:30:06,133 --> 00:30:10,100 they are something that Matthew would appreciate too." 665 00:30:10,167 --> 00:30:12,234 I WENT UP AND SAID... 666 00:30:12,300 --> 00:30:15,868 YOU ALL TELL ME WHAT YOU WANT ME TO DO 667 00:30:15,934 --> 00:30:18,934 OR WHAT YOU WANT ME TO SAY OR ANYTHING YOU NEED 668 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:21,033 AND WE'LL PROVIDE IT FOR YOU. 669 00:30:21,100 --> 00:30:24,434 "We also have a special request for members of the media. 670 00:30:24,500 --> 00:30:28,701 "We ask that you respect our privacy as well as Matthew's, 671 00:30:28,767 --> 00:30:31,133 "so, we can concentrate all of our efforts, 672 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:35,000 "thoughts, and love on our son. 673 00:30:35,067 --> 00:30:38,000 Thank you very much." 674 00:30:40,067 --> 00:30:41,968 ( male reporter ) Russell Henderson and Aaron McKinney 675 00:30:42,033 --> 00:30:43,934 have plead not guilty to the charges 676 00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:45,801 of kidnapping, aggravated robbery, 677 00:30:45,868 --> 00:30:48,200 and attempted murder in the first degree. 678 00:30:48,267 --> 00:30:50,133 RUSSELL WAS JUST SO SWEET. 679 00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:52,267 HE'S THE ONE THAT WAS THE EAGLE SCOUT. 680 00:30:52,334 --> 00:30:54,634 HIS WHOLE PRESENCE WAS JUST 681 00:30:54,701 --> 00:30:56,100 QUIET AND SWEET. 682 00:30:56,167 --> 00:30:57,701 HE WAS RAISED A MORMAN. 683 00:30:57,767 --> 00:30:59,167 HE WAS REAL ACTIVE IN THAT WHEN HE WAS YOUNGER. 684 00:30:59,234 --> 00:31:00,634 HE WAS AN ELDER IN THE CHURCH. 685 00:31:00,701 --> 00:31:02,234 SO, OF COURSE, IT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE TO ME. 686 00:31:02,300 --> 00:31:03,934 I KNOW PEOPLE SNAP AND WHATEVER. 687 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:06,868 LIKE I SAID, IT WASN'T A REAL INTIMATE RELATIONSHIP. 688 00:31:06,934 --> 00:31:08,634 I WAS JUST HIS LANDLORD. 689 00:31:08,701 --> 00:31:10,500 I REMEMBER LIKE, AT THE CHRISTMAS PARTY 690 00:31:10,567 --> 00:31:12,701 HE WAS JUST TOTALLY DRUNK OUT OF HIS MIND, 691 00:31:12,767 --> 00:31:14,100 YOU KNOW, LIKE, WE ALL WERE. 692 00:31:14,167 --> 00:31:16,567 BUT HE WASN'T BELLIGERENT. 693 00:31:16,634 --> 00:31:19,100 HE DIDN'T CHANGE, HIS PERSONALITY DIDN'T CHANGE. 694 00:31:19,167 --> 00:31:20,834 HE WAS STILL THE SAME LITTLE MEEK... 695 00:31:20,901 --> 00:31:22,267 RUSSELL. 696 00:31:22,334 --> 00:31:23,834 AARON WAS A GOOD KID. 697 00:31:23,901 --> 00:31:26,067 THAT'S WHY I WAS SHOCKED WHEN I HEARD THIS. 698 00:31:26,133 --> 00:31:27,901 SEE, HE HAD BEEN LIVING WITH THIS GIRL. 699 00:31:27,968 --> 00:31:29,734 THEY JUST STARTED DATING LAST SUMMER. 700 00:31:29,801 --> 00:31:31,801 SHE MUST'VE GOTTEN PREGNANT AS SOON AS THEY STARTED DATING 701 00:31:31,868 --> 00:31:33,801 'CAUSE YOU KNOW THEY HAD A KID ? 702 00:31:33,868 --> 00:31:36,133 21 YEARS OLD, BUT HE'S RUNNING AROUND WITH A KID. 703 00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:38,033 WHEN I FIRST HEARD ABOUT, 704 00:31:38,100 --> 00:31:39,968 I THOUGHT IT WAS REALLY, REALLY AWFUL. 705 00:31:40,033 --> 00:31:41,000 I DON'T KNOW WHETHER AARON WAS FUCKED UP 706 00:31:41,067 --> 00:31:42,968 OR WAS COMING DOWN OR WHAT. 707 00:31:43,033 --> 00:31:44,334 BUT MATTHEW HAD MONEY. 708 00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:46,567 SHIT, HE HAD BETTER CLOTHES THAN I DID. 709 00:31:46,634 --> 00:31:48,300 MATTHEW WAS A LITTLE RICH BITCH. 710 00:31:48,367 --> 00:31:51,400 SHOULDN'T CALL HIM A RICH BITCH, THOUGH, THAT'S NOT RIGHT. 711 00:31:51,467 --> 00:31:53,100 I'M NOT SAYING HE WAS A BAD GUY EITHER, 712 00:31:53,167 --> 00:31:54,334 I'M JUST SAYING HE WAS AT THE WRONG PLACE 713 00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:56,234 AT THE WRONG TIME, SAID THE WRONG THINGS. 714 00:31:56,300 --> 00:31:58,634 AARON WAS ALWAYS DRESSING UP BIG. 715 00:31:58,701 --> 00:32:00,234 BIG CLOTHES. 716 00:32:00,300 --> 00:32:02,801 TOMMY HILFIGER. 717 00:32:02,868 --> 00:32:05,567 POLO, GUCCI, I DON'T KNOW. 718 00:32:05,634 --> 00:32:08,701 I MEAN, IT PROBABLY PISSED HIM OFF THAT MATTHEW WAS GAY 719 00:32:08,767 --> 00:32:10,300 'CAUSE HE DIDN'T LIKE-- 720 00:32:10,367 --> 00:32:13,734 I MEAN, THE GAY PEOPLE THAT I'VE SEEN HIM INTERACT WITH 721 00:32:13,801 --> 00:32:15,534 OR THAT I'VE HEARD HIM TALK ABOUT, 722 00:32:15,601 --> 00:32:16,868 HE WAS FINE WITH 723 00:32:16,934 --> 00:32:19,133 AS LONG AS, YOU KNOW, THEY DIDN'T HIT ON HIM. 724 00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:23,801 OR AS LONG AS, YOU KNOW, IT DIDN'T COME UP. 725 00:32:24,834 --> 00:32:26,234 WHEN I KNEW HIM, WHEN I KNEW AARON, 726 00:32:26,300 --> 00:32:27,200 HE WAS JUST A YOUNG KID. 727 00:32:27,267 --> 00:32:29,601 HE'S TRYING TO FIT IN ACTING TOUGH, ACTING COOL. 728 00:32:29,667 --> 00:32:30,367 BUT YOU KNOW WHAT ? 729 00:32:30,434 --> 00:32:32,334 YOU CAN GET IN HIS FACE ABOUT IT... 730 00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:35,234 HE'D BACK DOWN LIKE HE'S SOME KIND OF SCARED KID. 731 00:32:35,300 --> 00:32:37,267 IF I SAW AARON RIGHT NOW, 732 00:32:37,334 --> 00:32:41,000 I'D BE LIKE, WHY'D YOU FUCK UP LIKE THAT ? 733 00:32:41,067 --> 00:32:43,033 I WANT TO SHAKE HIM, YOU KNOW ? 734 00:32:43,100 --> 00:32:44,934 WHAT WERE YOU THINKING ?! 735 00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:47,500 WHAT IN THE HELL WERE YOU THINKING ? 736 00:32:47,567 --> 00:32:50,734 ( phone ) 737 00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:55,367 HELLO ? 738 00:32:55,434 --> 00:32:56,767 THIS IS HER. 739 00:32:56,834 --> 00:32:58,868 OH, HI, DOCTOR. 740 00:33:00,067 --> 00:33:01,234 HOW IS HE ? 741 00:33:05,267 --> 00:33:06,767 YES. 742 00:33:08,667 --> 00:33:10,100 I SEE. 743 00:33:10,167 --> 00:33:12,801 CAN YOU HANG ON FOR A MOMENT ? 744 00:33:12,868 --> 00:33:16,534 MOM, CAN YOU HANG THIS UP, I'M GONNA TAKE IT IN THERE. 745 00:33:20,667 --> 00:33:22,100 I'M HERE. 746 00:33:24,834 --> 00:33:27,200 THE PART I WASN'T TELLING YOU ABOUT BEFORE. 747 00:33:27,267 --> 00:33:30,467 IS THAT REGGIE FLUTY IS MY DAUGHTER. 748 00:33:30,534 --> 00:33:34,267 WHEN SHE TOLD ME SHE WANTED TO BE A POLICE OFFICER, 749 00:33:34,334 --> 00:33:37,133 I THOUGHT THERE WAS NOT A BETTER CHOICE FOR HER. 750 00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:39,634 SHE COULD HANDLE WHATEVER CAME HER WAY. 751 00:33:39,701 --> 00:33:43,934 AND THEN THIS HAPPENS. 752 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:51,100 THAT WAS THE HOSPITAL. 753 00:33:54,934 --> 00:33:57,868 MATTHEW SHEPARD IS HIV POSITIVE 754 00:33:57,934 --> 00:34:01,801 AND THEY SAID I'VE BEEN EXPOSED. 755 00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:04,534 WHAT ? 756 00:34:08,434 --> 00:34:11,634 THEY SAID I'VE BEEN EXPOSED TO THE AIDS VIRUS. 757 00:34:13,133 --> 00:34:14,234 YOU KNOW, BECAUSE I'VE BEEN BUILDING 758 00:34:14,300 --> 00:34:16,534 THE LEAN-TOs FOR THE LLAMAS 759 00:34:16,601 --> 00:34:20,734 AND I HAVE A BUNCH OF OPEN CUTS ON MY HANDS AND I... 760 00:34:21,834 --> 00:34:25,000 I GOT HIS BLOOD ON MY HANDS. 761 00:34:25,067 --> 00:34:27,434 HOW DID YOU GET IT ON YOUR HANDS ? 762 00:34:27,500 --> 00:34:29,934 WE HAVE SHIT GLOVES, YOU KNOW ? 763 00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:33,167 AND I KEPT PUTTING THEM ON AND YOU KEEP PUTTING THEM ON 764 00:34:33,234 --> 00:34:34,634 AND THEY KEEP BREAKING, SO... 765 00:34:34,701 --> 00:34:38,500 SO, FINALLY I RAN OUT. 766 00:34:39,567 --> 00:34:42,200 SO, YOU TOUCHED HIM WITHOUT GLOVES ? 767 00:34:43,467 --> 00:34:46,067 YOU CANNOT LET A HUMAN BEING JUST SIT THERE. 768 00:34:46,133 --> 00:34:47,400 REGGIE ! 769 00:34:47,467 --> 00:34:48,300 DON'T HESITATE. 770 00:34:48,367 --> 00:34:49,767 THAT'S WHAT GOES THROUGH YOUR MIND. 771 00:34:49,834 --> 00:34:51,767 DON'T HESITATE, ALL THE TIME. 772 00:34:51,834 --> 00:34:55,500 SO, YOU JUST KEEP ON MOVING AND YOU TAKE CARE OF MATTHEW 773 00:34:55,567 --> 00:34:57,701 AND YOU TRY TO FIND AN OPEN AIRWAY. 774 00:34:57,767 --> 00:34:58,868 AND THAT'S WHAT YOU DO. 775 00:34:58,934 --> 00:35:00,434 YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHAT YOU DO ! 776 00:35:00,500 --> 00:35:04,868 QUITE FRANKLY, I WANTED TO LASH OUT AT SOMEBODY. 777 00:35:06,334 --> 00:35:08,167 NOT MATTHEW, PLEASE UNDERSTAND 778 00:35:08,234 --> 00:35:10,634 THAT NOT ONE OF US WAS MAD AT MATTHEW. 779 00:35:10,701 --> 00:35:14,133 WE MAYBE WANTED TO SQUEEZE McKINNEY'S HEAD OFF. 780 00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:16,601 AND I THINK ABOUT HENDERSON. 781 00:35:16,667 --> 00:35:19,667 YOU KNOW, TWO ABSOLUTELY... 782 00:35:19,734 --> 00:35:25,234 HUMAN BEINGS CAUSED SO MUCH GRIEF FOR SO MANY PEOPLE. 783 00:35:25,300 --> 00:35:29,334 THEY WANT TO START ME ON THESE ATZ DRUGS IMMEDIATELY 784 00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:30,968 AND IF YOU... 785 00:35:31,033 --> 00:35:34,200 IF YOU START THEM WITHIN 36 HOURS, 786 00:35:34,267 --> 00:35:37,834 MAYBE THAT CAN STOP YOU FROM GETTING THE DISEASE. 787 00:35:39,601 --> 00:35:42,133 THIS HAS BEEN JUST TERRIBLE FOR MY WHOLE FAMILY, 788 00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:44,267 BUT MOSTLY FOR HER AND HER KIDS. 789 00:35:44,334 --> 00:35:45,667 THOSE DRUGS, 790 00:35:45,734 --> 00:35:47,901 THE AZT DRUGS. 791 00:35:47,968 --> 00:35:50,400 SHE THROWS UP EVERY DAY. 792 00:35:50,467 --> 00:35:54,200 SHE CRIES SO MUCH, SHE'S AFRAID TO TOUCH HER KIDS. 793 00:35:56,033 --> 00:35:58,500 I JUST HOPE SHE DOESN'T GO BEFORE ME. 794 00:36:22,567 --> 00:36:25,000 NO MATTER HOW YOU DICE IT, I DID HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY. 795 00:36:25,067 --> 00:36:29,100 IF I HAD HAD AMAZING 20/20 HINDSIGHT, 796 00:36:29,167 --> 00:36:30,701 I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO STOP 797 00:36:30,767 --> 00:36:33,033 WHAT OCCURRED THAT NIGHT. 798 00:36:33,100 --> 00:36:34,901 I COULD'VE STOPPED IT. 799 00:36:34,968 --> 00:36:36,000 I SHOULD'VE KNOWN. 800 00:36:36,067 --> 00:36:38,334 THESE GUYS SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN TALKING TO THAT GUY. 801 00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:40,434 I SHOULD'VE NOT HAD MY HEAD DOWN WHILE I WAS WASHING DISHES 802 00:36:40,500 --> 00:36:42,000 FOR THOSE 20 SECONDS. 803 00:36:42,067 --> 00:36:43,334 ALL THOSE LITTLE THINGS I COULD'VE DONE 804 00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:44,300 AND I COULD'VE STOPPED THIS. 805 00:36:44,367 --> 00:36:48,901 SO, WHAT THE HELL WAS I THINKING ? 806 00:36:53,300 --> 00:36:55,467 I KEEP SEEING THAT PICTURE IN MY HEAD 807 00:36:55,534 --> 00:36:57,167 OF WHEN I FOUND HIM. 808 00:36:57,234 --> 00:37:00,300 AND IT IS NOT PLEASANT WHATSOEVER. 809 00:37:00,367 --> 00:37:02,667 I WANT TO LIKE, GET IT OUT. 810 00:37:02,734 --> 00:37:05,200 I DON'T WANT IT IN THERE. 811 00:37:06,601 --> 00:37:08,100 AND THAT'S A BIG PART OF IT FOR ME, 812 00:37:08,167 --> 00:37:10,634 IS HAVING TO SEE THAT PICTURE... 813 00:37:11,267 --> 00:37:12,834 IN MY HEAD. 814 00:37:12,901 --> 00:37:15,767 I JUST, I DON'T WANT IT IN THERE. 815 00:37:17,868 --> 00:37:21,767 MATTHEW SHEPARD'S THE FIRST GAY PERSON I EVER SAW. 816 00:37:22,834 --> 00:37:24,267 IT'S KIND OF UNBELIEVABLE TO ME 817 00:37:24,334 --> 00:37:26,467 THAT I HAPPENED TO BE THE PERSON THAT FOUND HIM. 818 00:37:26,534 --> 00:37:30,367 BECAUSE LIKE, THE BIG QUESTION WITH MY RELIGION IS... 819 00:37:32,133 --> 00:37:34,567 ... WHY DID GOD WANT ME TO FIND HIM ? 820 00:37:39,868 --> 00:37:42,734 โ™ช IN THE DARKNESS โ™ช 821 00:37:42,801 --> 00:37:46,767 โ™ช BEFORE THE DAWN โ™ช 822 00:37:46,834 --> 00:37:51,834 โ™ช NO MORE SORROW โ™ช 823 00:37:51,901 --> 00:37:56,734 โ™ช IN THE NIGHTTIME โ™ช 824 00:37:56,801 --> 00:37:59,868 โ™ช LET IT SHINE โ™ช 825 00:37:59,934 --> 00:38:03,868 โ™ช OH, LORD, LET IT SHINE โ™ช 826 00:38:03,934 --> 00:38:06,734 ( montage of reporters ) CANDLELIGHT VIGILS WERE HELD AROUND THE COUNTRY LAST NIGHT... 827 00:38:06,801 --> 00:38:09,067 THERE ARE EXPRESSIONS OF SYMPATHY... 828 00:38:09,133 --> 00:38:12,601 ... DENVER, DETROIT, CHICAGO, WASHINGTON... 829 00:38:12,667 --> 00:38:16,767 ATLANTA, NASHVILLE, MINNEAPOLIS, AND AROUND THE WORLD. 830 00:38:16,834 --> 00:38:19,868 ... ALL EXPRESSING HOPES FOR MATTHEW'S RECOVERY. 831 00:38:19,934 --> 00:38:21,367 I CAN'T STOP CRYING. 832 00:38:21,434 --> 00:38:24,334 THIS IS WHAT I WAS TRYING TO STOP. 833 00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:27,167 WE MUST DO MORE 834 00:38:27,234 --> 00:38:28,667 TO DEAL 835 00:38:28,734 --> 00:38:30,667 WITH VIOLENT BIGOTRY, 836 00:38:30,734 --> 00:38:32,667 HATE CRIMES... 837 00:38:32,734 --> 00:38:34,667 I hope that in the grief of this moment 838 00:38:34,734 --> 00:38:36,434 and in the shared outrage across America, 839 00:38:36,500 --> 00:38:39,801 Americans will once again search their hearts 840 00:38:39,868 --> 00:38:44,400 and do what they can to reduce their own fear and anxiety 841 00:38:44,467 --> 00:38:47,901 and anger at people who are different. 842 00:38:47,968 --> 00:38:50,767 And I hope that Congress will pass 843 00:38:50,834 --> 00:38:53,467 the Hate-Crimes legislation. 844 00:38:53,534 --> 00:39:00,400 โ™ช LET IT SHINE... โ™ช 845 00:39:03,701 --> 00:39:05,767 ( church bells ringing ) 846 00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:11,033 I THINK THE GAY COMMUNITY IS TAKING THIS AS AN ADVANTAGE, 847 00:39:11,100 --> 00:39:14,500 SAID, "THIS IS A GOOD TIME FOR US TO EXPLOIT THIS". 848 00:39:14,567 --> 00:39:17,868 THEY MADE IT SOUND LIKE IT WAS 10 MURDERS INSTEAD OF ONE. 849 00:39:17,934 --> 00:39:19,500 THEY'RE ACCUSING THE RANCHERS 850 00:39:19,567 --> 00:39:21,801 OF BEING UNREASONABLE AND UNSYMPATHETIC. 851 00:39:21,868 --> 00:39:22,968 BECAUSE OF HOW HE WAS... 852 00:39:23,033 --> 00:39:25,100 ( female ) AND WHAT HIS PERSUASIONS WERE. 853 00:39:25,167 --> 00:39:27,901 WELL, HE WOULD CERTAINLY BE WELCOME IN OUR HOME. 854 00:39:27,968 --> 00:39:31,601 WE'D VISIT, SIT DOWN, HAVE A CUP OF COFFEE. 855 00:39:31,667 --> 00:39:34,100 WHAT DID YOU THINK WHEN YOU HEARD THAT 856 00:39:34,167 --> 00:39:35,534 TWO BOYS FROM YOUR TOWN DID THIS ? 857 00:39:35,601 --> 00:39:38,634 WELL, I CERTAINLY DON'T APPROVE OF HOMOSEXUALS, 858 00:39:38,701 --> 00:39:40,801 BUT I DON'T THINK ANYBODY HAS A RIGHT 859 00:39:40,868 --> 00:39:42,701 TO DO WHAT THOSE TWO BOYS DID. 860 00:39:42,767 --> 00:39:44,300 WELL, WHERE DO YOU THINK THAT COMES FROM ? 861 00:39:44,367 --> 00:39:45,934 THEIR HATRED TOWARDS HOMOSEXUALS ? 862 00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:47,234 I THINK... 863 00:39:47,300 --> 00:39:50,267 WHAT MOST PEOPLE FEAR IN THE GAY COMMUNITY 864 00:39:50,334 --> 00:39:54,267 IS THAT SEXUALITY IS THEIR NUMBER ONE CONCERN. 865 00:39:54,334 --> 00:39:55,434 NOT MANY PEOPLE CONDONE IT-- 866 00:39:55,500 --> 00:39:57,701 WHEN YOU WEAR IT ON YOUR SLEEVE LIKE A BANNER. 867 00:39:57,767 --> 00:39:59,500 WELL, THERE'S THIS WHOLE IDEA, 868 00:39:59,567 --> 00:40:02,300 "YOU LEAVE ME ALONE, I LEAVE YOU ALONE." 869 00:40:02,367 --> 00:40:03,834 IT'S EVEN IN SOME OF THE WESTERN LITERATURE. 870 00:40:03,901 --> 00:40:05,500 "LIVE AND LET LIVE." 871 00:40:05,567 --> 00:40:08,067 THAT IS SUCH CRAP. 872 00:40:08,133 --> 00:40:10,667 BASICALLY WHAT IT BOILS DOWN TO, 873 00:40:10,734 --> 00:40:12,267 IF I DON'T TELL YOU I'M A FAG, 874 00:40:12,334 --> 00:40:14,234 YOU WON'T BEAT THE CRAP OUT OF ME. 875 00:40:14,300 --> 00:40:16,567 WHAT'S SO GREAT ABOUT THAT ? 876 00:40:16,634 --> 00:40:19,634 THAT'S A GREAT PHILOSOPHY ? 877 00:40:19,701 --> 00:40:21,167 I'LL SIT IN CHURCH, 878 00:40:21,234 --> 00:40:23,133 AND THE REVEREND WILL TELL YOU FLAT OUT 879 00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:25,234 HE DOES NOT AGREE WITH HOMOSEXUALITY, RIGHT ? 880 00:40:25,300 --> 00:40:28,100 AND I JUST DON'T FEEL LIKE I KNOW ENOUGH ABOUT CERTAIN THINGS 881 00:40:28,167 --> 00:40:30,400 JUST TO BE ABLE TO SAY THAT HOMOSEXUALITY IS RIGHT. 882 00:40:30,467 --> 00:40:32,667 WHEN I'VE BEEN RAISED MY WHOLE LIFE 883 00:40:32,734 --> 00:40:34,467 THAT HOMOSEXUALITY IS NOT RIGHT, IT'S WRONG. 884 00:40:34,534 --> 00:40:37,067 MY PARENTS BROUGHT ME UP CATHOLIC. 885 00:40:37,133 --> 00:40:41,067 I WAS BROUGHT UP TO LOVE THE SINNER, HATE THE SIN. 886 00:40:41,133 --> 00:40:43,167 LOVE THE PERSON FOR WHO THEY ARE, 887 00:40:43,234 --> 00:40:44,567 BUT CONDEMN THEM 888 00:40:44,634 --> 00:40:47,000 FOR WHAT THEY DO, CONDEMN THE LIFESTYLE. 889 00:40:47,067 --> 00:40:49,167 SO, I WOULD HAVE TO SAY RIGHT NOW THAT I DON'T AGREE WITH IT, 890 00:40:49,234 --> 00:40:50,534 I DON'T AGREE. 891 00:40:50,601 --> 00:40:52,667 AND MAYBE THAT'S JUST 'CAUSE I COULDN'T DO IT. 892 00:40:52,734 --> 00:40:54,634 BUT I DON'T HATE HOMOSEXUALS 893 00:40:54,701 --> 00:40:56,000 AND I'M NOT GONNA PERSECUTE THEM. 894 00:40:56,067 --> 00:40:57,567 I'M NOT GONNA LET THIS GET IN BETWEEN 895 00:40:57,634 --> 00:40:59,000 ME AND THE OTHER PERSON AT ALL. 896 00:40:59,067 --> 00:41:00,434 YOU KNOW, OR IN BETWEEN YOU AND I. 897 00:41:00,500 --> 00:41:02,133 YOU KNOW, NOT AT ALL. 898 00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:06,234 WELL, IT'S PREACHED IN SCHOOLS THAT BEING GAY IS OKAY. 899 00:41:07,734 --> 00:41:09,567 IF MY KIDS ASKED ME, I'D SET THEM DOWN 900 00:41:09,634 --> 00:41:10,734 AND I'D TELL THEM, 901 00:41:10,801 --> 00:41:12,601 THIS IS WHAT GAY PEOPLE DO. 902 00:41:12,667 --> 00:41:15,200 THIS IS WHAT ANIMALS DO, OKAY ? 903 00:41:15,267 --> 00:41:17,234 AND I'D TELL THEM, THIS IS THE LIFE. 904 00:41:17,300 --> 00:41:20,734 THIS IS THE LIFESTYLE, THIS IS WHAT THEY DO. 905 00:41:22,067 --> 00:41:24,968 AND I SAY THIS IS WHY I BELIEVE IT'S WRONG. 906 00:41:25,734 --> 00:41:28,634 ( chanting ) SHAME, SHAME, SHAME... ! 907 00:41:33,234 --> 00:41:35,701 IN NEW YORK, THE PROTEST FOR MATTHEW SHEPARD 908 00:41:35,767 --> 00:41:37,234 TURNED INTO A NEAR RIOT. 909 00:41:37,300 --> 00:41:40,634 POLICE ON HORSES WERE PUSHING INTO THE CROWDS. 910 00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:54,634 ( chanting ) THE WHOLE WORLD IS WATCHING, THE WHOLE WORLD IS WATCHING ! 911 00:41:54,701 --> 00:41:58,567 THE WHOLE WORLD IS WATCHING, THE WHOLE WORLD IS WATCHING... ! 912 00:41:58,634 --> 00:42:00,868 As of nine a.m. today, 913 00:42:00,934 --> 00:42:03,701 Matthew Shepard remains in critical condition 914 00:42:03,767 --> 00:42:05,267 with severe head injuries 915 00:42:05,334 --> 00:42:07,734 in the surgical neuro-intensive care unit. 916 00:42:07,801 --> 00:42:10,033 Respiratory support... 917 00:42:10,100 --> 00:42:11,434 AS I TOLD YOU BEFORE, 918 00:42:11,500 --> 00:42:13,467 IT'S NOT A LIFESTYLE WITH WHICH I AGREE. 919 00:42:13,534 --> 00:42:16,367 YOU STILL FEEL THAT WAY ? 920 00:42:16,434 --> 00:42:18,267 YES. 921 00:42:19,067 --> 00:42:20,801 The family continues to emphasize 922 00:42:20,868 --> 00:42:24,000 that the media respect their privacy. 923 00:42:24,067 --> 00:42:28,267 The family also wants to thank the American public 924 00:42:28,334 --> 00:42:29,667 for their concern 925 00:42:29,734 --> 00:42:32,334 and kind thoughts for Matthew. 926 00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:33,634 WE WENT TO THE CANDLE VIGIL. 927 00:42:33,701 --> 00:42:37,100 AND IT WAS SO GOOD TO BE WITH PEOPLE WHO FELT LIKE SHIT. 928 00:42:37,167 --> 00:42:40,868 I KEPT FEELING LIKE, I DON'T DESERVE TO FEEL THIS BAD. 929 00:42:40,934 --> 00:42:42,801 AND SOMEBODY GOT UP THERE AND SAID, 930 00:42:42,868 --> 00:42:44,367 "C'MON, GUYS, LET'S SHOW THE WORLD 931 00:42:44,434 --> 00:42:46,734 THAT LARAMIE IS NOT THIS KIND OF A TOWN." 932 00:42:46,801 --> 00:42:49,300 BUT IT IS THIS KIND OF TOWN. 933 00:42:49,367 --> 00:42:52,534 IF IT WASN'T THIS KIND OF TOWN, THEN WHY DID THIS HAPPEN HERE ? 934 00:42:52,601 --> 00:42:55,100 THAT'S A LIE BECAUSE IT HAPPENED HERE. 935 00:42:55,167 --> 00:42:57,601 SO, HOW COULD IT NOT BE A TOWN 936 00:42:57,667 --> 00:42:59,033 WHERE THIS KIND OF THING HAPPENS ? 937 00:42:59,100 --> 00:43:01,734 I MEAN, HOW CAN YOU EVEN SAY THAT ? 938 00:43:01,801 --> 00:43:03,133 WE HAVE TO MOURN THIS 939 00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:05,534 AND WE HAVE TO BE SAD THAT WE LIVE IN A TOWN, 940 00:43:05,601 --> 00:43:08,934 A STATE, A COUNTRY, WHERE SHIT LIKE THIS HAPPENS. 941 00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:11,934 I MEAN, THESE PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO DISTANCE THEMSELVES 942 00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:13,200 FROM THIS CRIME 943 00:43:13,267 --> 00:43:15,300 AND WE NEED TO OWN THIS CRIME, I FEEL. 944 00:43:15,367 --> 00:43:16,601 EVERYONE NEEDS TO OWN IT. 945 00:43:16,667 --> 00:43:19,534 WE ARE LIKE THIS. 946 00:43:20,701 --> 00:43:22,234 WE ARE LIKE THIS. 947 00:43:22,300 --> 00:43:24,734 WE ARE LIKE THIS. 948 00:43:24,801 --> 00:43:25,968 NOT HAVING TO DEAL THAT MUCH 949 00:43:26,033 --> 00:43:27,767 WITH THE GAY COMMUNITY HERE IN LARAMIE, 950 00:43:27,834 --> 00:43:29,901 ONCE WE STARTED WORKING INTO THE CASE 951 00:43:29,968 --> 00:43:32,934 ACTUALLY TALKING TO PEOPLE THAT WERE GAY 952 00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:35,000 AND REALIZING WHAT THEIR UNDERLYING FEARS WERE, 953 00:43:35,067 --> 00:43:38,934 THAT'S WHEN IT SORT OF HIT HOME. 954 00:43:40,033 --> 00:43:41,133 THIS IS AMERICA. 955 00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:43,300 YOU DON'T HAVE THE RIGHT TO FEEL THAT FEAR. 956 00:43:43,367 --> 00:43:45,667 DO YOU THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE IN LARAMIE FEEL THE SAME WAY ? 957 00:43:45,734 --> 00:43:48,334 YOU'RE ALWAYS GONNA HAVE PEOPLE THAT HOLD WITH THE OLD IDEALS. 958 00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:52,167 I WAS PROBABLY ONE OF THEM 14 MONTHS AGO. 959 00:43:52,234 --> 00:43:54,400 BUT I'M NOT GONNA PUT UP WITH IT ANYMORE, 960 00:43:54,467 --> 00:43:55,667 I'M NOT GONNA LISTEN TO IT. 961 00:43:55,734 --> 00:43:57,701 IF THEY DON'T LIKE MY VIEWS ON IT, FINE, 962 00:43:57,767 --> 00:44:00,000 DOOR GOES BOTH WAYS. 963 00:44:01,334 --> 00:44:03,400 I'VE ALREADY LOST A COUPLE BUDDIES, BUT I DON'T CARE. 964 00:44:04,667 --> 00:44:05,868 I'M... 965 00:44:05,934 --> 00:44:07,300 I FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE. 966 00:44:07,367 --> 00:44:10,334 I CAN SLEEP AT NIGHT NOW. 967 00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:14,334 ( female ) WELL, I REALLY WANT TO THANK YOU FOR HAVING US HERE TONIGHT. 968 00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:16,167 IT'S OUR PLEASURE. 969 00:44:16,234 --> 00:44:18,801 THESE GATHERINGS, THIS IS A RECENT THING FOR US. 970 00:44:18,868 --> 00:44:22,067 THIS REALLY ONLY HAPPENED SINCE MATTHEW. 971 00:44:22,133 --> 00:44:24,200 AND THERE'S A RELIEF IN THAT WE FINALLY CONNECTED. 972 00:44:24,267 --> 00:44:27,300 IT'S NICE TO SEE THERE ARE A LOT OF US IN LARAMIE. 973 00:44:27,367 --> 00:44:30,133 IS EVERYBODY IN THE COMPANY GAY ? 974 00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:32,234 NO, JUST THE THREE OF US. 975 00:44:32,300 --> 00:44:33,400 ARE YOU OUT ? 976 00:44:33,467 --> 00:44:35,100 YES. YUP. 977 00:44:35,167 --> 00:44:37,367 I WASN'T OUT BEFORE, ACTUALLY. 978 00:44:37,434 --> 00:44:39,767 THEN I THOUGHT PROBABLY THEY ALL KNOW, 979 00:44:39,834 --> 00:44:42,133 BUT I'M NOT GONNA LIKE TELL ANYONE. 980 00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:45,500 AND IN THE LONG RUN, YOUR SELF-ESTEEM JUST BECOMES SHIT. 981 00:44:45,567 --> 00:44:48,567 AND I JUST, I COULDN'T LIVE LIKE THAT ANYMORE. 982 00:44:48,634 --> 00:44:50,534 I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE DECIDED 983 00:44:50,601 --> 00:44:52,167 THAT THEY DIDN'T WANT TO HIDE ANYMORE. 984 00:44:52,234 --> 00:44:54,167 I STILL DON'T FEEL THAT FREE TO BE OUT HERE. 985 00:44:54,234 --> 00:44:56,367 NO ONE'S ASKING, I'M NOT TELLING. 986 00:44:56,434 --> 00:44:57,834 I'VE ALWAYS BEEN OUT 987 00:44:57,901 --> 00:45:00,133 AND I KNOW HOW TO TAKE CARE OF MYSELF, BUT... 988 00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:03,868 SINCE THE EPISODE, I'VE BEEN IRRATIONALLY TERRIFIED 989 00:45:03,934 --> 00:45:06,667 AND WHAT THAT MEANS IS WE DON'T LET OUR SON 990 00:45:06,734 --> 00:45:08,100 WALK AROUND AT NIGHT ALONE. 991 00:45:08,167 --> 00:45:10,968 EVERY TIME I SEE A PICKUP TRUCK DO A U-TURN, 992 00:45:11,033 --> 00:45:12,167 I THINK IT'S COMING AFTER ME. 993 00:45:12,234 --> 00:45:15,000 AND I'M SHAKING SO BADLY, I HAVE TO STOP DOING WHAT I'M DOING. 994 00:45:15,067 --> 00:45:17,734 I THINK IT'S BECAUSE SOMEWHERE INSIDE 995 00:45:17,801 --> 00:45:21,000 WE ALL KNOW IT COULD HAPPEN TO US ANY TIME. 996 00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:32,067 SINCE OUR LAST MEDICAL UPDATE, 997 00:45:32,133 --> 00:45:34,868 MATTHEW SHEPARD HAS REMAINED IN CRITICAL CONDITION 998 00:45:34,934 --> 00:45:37,133 WITH SEVERE HEAD INJURIES. 999 00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:38,234 AS OF TODAY, 1000 00:45:38,300 --> 00:45:41,434 THE HOSPITAL WILL NO LONGER OFFER MEDICAL UPDATES 1001 00:45:41,500 --> 00:45:42,868 ON A SCHEDULED BASIS. 1002 00:45:42,934 --> 00:45:46,334 IF MATTHEW'S MEDICAL CONDITION CHANGES, 1003 00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:48,934 WE WILL ISSUE A NEW MEDICAL UPDATE 1004 00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:52,868 AND WE WILL IMMEDIATELY CONTACT AS MANY MEMBERS OF THE MEDIA 1005 00:45:52,934 --> 00:45:56,067 AS IS PRACTICALLY POSSIBLE, THANK YOU. 1006 00:45:58,901 --> 00:46:01,667 All eyes are on Laramie, Wyoming today 1007 00:46:01,734 --> 00:46:03,434 WHERE MANY ARE TURNING THEIR FOCUS 1008 00:46:03,500 --> 00:46:05,200 TO THEIR HOMECOMING PARADE. 1009 00:46:05,267 --> 00:46:06,467 AND THE FORTUNE OF 1010 00:46:06,534 --> 00:46:08,868 THE UNIVERSITY OF WYOMING FOOTBALL TEAM. 1011 00:46:08,934 --> 00:46:11,834 ( band playing ) 1012 00:46:28,634 --> 00:46:32,133 THIS APARTMENT HAS WINDOWS ON TWO OPPOSITE STREETS. 1013 00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:33,834 ONE GOES NORTH AND THE OTHER GOES SOUTH. 1014 00:46:33,901 --> 00:46:38,601 AND THAT IS EXACTLY THE HOMECOMING PARADE ROUTE. 1015 00:46:40,868 --> 00:46:42,267 NOW, ON THE DAY OF THE PARADE, 1016 00:46:42,334 --> 00:46:44,400 I HAD A CAST ON MY LEG BECAUSE OF A FALL. 1017 00:46:44,467 --> 00:46:48,300 AND I WAS VERY DISAPPOINTED BECAUSE I HAD HEARD THAT 1018 00:46:48,367 --> 00:46:51,634 SOME STUDENTS WERE GONNA BE WALKING FOR MATTHEW SHEPARD. 1019 00:46:51,701 --> 00:46:54,601 AND I WANTED TO JOIN THEM, BUT I COULDN'T, 1020 00:46:54,667 --> 00:46:56,667 SO, I WATCHED FROM THAT WINDOW. 1021 00:46:56,734 --> 00:46:58,267 IT WAS JUST... 1022 00:46:58,334 --> 00:47:03,133 I'M 52 YEARS OLD AND I'M... 1023 00:47:04,934 --> 00:47:06,100 I'M GAY. 1024 00:47:06,167 --> 00:47:08,534 I'VE LIVED HERE FOR MANY YEARS 1025 00:47:08,601 --> 00:47:10,801 AND I'VE SEEN A LOT. 1026 00:47:10,868 --> 00:47:13,934 AND I WAS VERY MOVED WHEN I SAW THE... 1027 00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:19,200 TAG AT THE END OF THE HOMECOMING PARADE. 1028 00:47:25,701 --> 00:47:27,901 IT WAS JUST A GROUP OF PEOPLE 1029 00:47:27,968 --> 00:47:31,300 WALKING BEHIND A BANNER FOR MATTHEW SHEPARD. 1030 00:47:39,868 --> 00:47:43,834 BUT THE PARADE WENT DOWN TO THE END OF THE BLOCK 1031 00:47:43,901 --> 00:47:45,767 MADE A U-TURN AROUND THE BLOCK 1032 00:47:45,834 --> 00:47:49,133 AND I CAME TO THE OTHER SIDE OF MY APARTMENT TO WATCH FOR IT 1033 00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:51,834 TO COME SOUTH DOWN THIS STREET. 1034 00:47:53,467 --> 00:47:54,901 MAYBE... 1035 00:47:54,968 --> 00:47:56,868 10 MINUTES WENT BY. 1036 00:47:59,734 --> 00:48:02,434 AND THEN I SAW THE MOST... 1037 00:48:02,500 --> 00:48:05,367 INCREDIBLE THING. 1038 00:48:08,701 --> 00:48:10,334 AS THE PARADE CAME DOWN THE STREET, 1039 00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:12,834 THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE MARCHING FOR MATTHEW SHEPARD 1040 00:48:12,901 --> 00:48:15,834 HAD GROWN LIKE, FIVE TIMES. 1041 00:48:15,901 --> 00:48:19,500 CAN YOU IMAGINE ? 1042 00:48:20,300 --> 00:48:21,367 THE TAG AT THE END 1043 00:48:21,434 --> 00:48:24,667 WAS BIGGER THAN THE ENTIRE PARADE. 1044 00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:38,734 I THOUGHT TO MYSELF, 1045 00:48:38,801 --> 00:48:43,200 THANK GOD I GOT TO SEE THIS IN MY LIFETIME. 1046 00:48:44,868 --> 00:48:47,834 AND MY SECOND THOUGHT WAS... 1047 00:48:49,100 --> 00:48:51,500 THANK YOU, MATTHEW. 1048 00:49:01,367 --> 00:49:03,868 I REALLY HAVEN'T BEEN ALL THAT INVOLVED, PER SE. 1049 00:49:03,934 --> 00:49:06,534 MY HUSBAND'S A HIGHWAY PATROLMAN, 1050 00:49:06,601 --> 00:49:09,334 SO, THAT'S REALLY THE ONLY WAY I'VE KNOWN ABOUT IT. 1051 00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:11,467 BUT WHEN I FIRST FOUND OUT, 1052 00:49:11,534 --> 00:49:14,701 I JUST THOUGHT IT WAS HORRIBLE. 1053 00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:17,634 I JUST... 1054 00:49:17,701 --> 00:49:19,801 I CAN'T. 1055 00:49:21,133 --> 00:49:22,901 NOBODY DESERVES THAT. 1056 00:49:24,133 --> 00:49:25,767 I DON'T CARE WHO YOU ARE. 1057 00:49:25,834 --> 00:49:27,534 BUT I HAVE TO TELL YOU, 1058 00:49:27,601 --> 00:49:31,000 YOU KNOW THE MEDIA'S PORTRAYING HIM AS A SAINT. 1059 00:49:31,067 --> 00:49:33,000 THEY'RE MAKING HIM OUT AS A MARTYR 1060 00:49:33,067 --> 00:49:34,601 AND I DON'T THINK HE WAS. 1061 00:49:34,667 --> 00:49:36,334 DID YOU KNOW HIM ? 1062 00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:38,000 NO. 1063 00:49:38,067 --> 00:49:39,534 I DIDN'T KNOW HIM. 1064 00:49:39,601 --> 00:49:40,868 BUT... 1065 00:49:40,934 --> 00:49:43,734 THEY'RE JUST SO MANY THINGS I FOUND OUT ABOUT HIM, 1066 00:49:43,801 --> 00:49:46,200 THAT I JUST-- IT'S SCARY. 1067 00:49:47,734 --> 00:49:49,567 YOU KNOW, ABOUT HIS CHARACTER 1068 00:49:49,634 --> 00:49:51,834 AND SPREADING AIDS 1069 00:49:51,901 --> 00:49:53,767 AND A FEW OTHER THINGS. 1070 00:49:53,834 --> 00:49:55,567 BEING... 1071 00:49:55,634 --> 00:49:58,901 ABOUT THE KIND OF PERSON HE WAS. 1072 00:49:58,968 --> 00:50:00,801 MEANING ? 1073 00:50:02,868 --> 00:50:04,033 WELL, 1074 00:50:04,100 --> 00:50:05,467 HE WAS... 1075 00:50:05,534 --> 00:50:08,601 HE WAS JUST... 1076 00:50:10,968 --> 00:50:12,367 A BARFLY. 1077 00:50:12,434 --> 00:50:17,133 SO, I THINK HE PUSHED HIMSELF ON AROUND, 1078 00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:18,334 OR I DON'T KNOW. 1079 00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:20,701 BUT I THINK HE FLAUNTED IT. 1080 00:50:21,934 --> 00:50:23,367 ANOTHER THING THAT WASN'T BROUGHT OUT... 1081 00:50:23,434 --> 00:50:25,567 THE SAME TIME THAT HAPPENED THAT PATROLMAN WAS KILLED 1082 00:50:25,634 --> 00:50:26,634 AND THERE WAS NOTHING. 1083 00:50:26,701 --> 00:50:29,133 NOTHING, THEY DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING ABOUT 1084 00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:30,400 THAT OLD MAN THAT KILLED HIM. 1085 00:50:30,467 --> 00:50:32,133 HE WAS DRIVING DOWN THE ROAD, 1086 00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:33,400 HE SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN DRIVING 1087 00:50:33,467 --> 00:50:34,667 AND HE KILLED HIM. 1088 00:50:34,734 --> 00:50:36,000 AND THERE WAS JUST A LITTLE PIECE. 1089 00:50:36,067 --> 00:50:39,000 AND WE LOST ONE OF OUR GUYS. 1090 00:50:39,067 --> 00:50:43,334 YOU KNOW, MY HUSBAND WORKED WITH HIM. 1091 00:50:43,534 --> 00:50:45,801 THIS MAN WAS BRAND NEW ON THE FORCE. 1092 00:50:45,868 --> 00:50:48,167 BUT I MEAN, HERE'S ONE OF OURS. 1093 00:50:48,234 --> 00:50:52,334 AND IT WAS JUST A LITTLE PIECE IN THE PAPER. 1094 00:50:53,434 --> 00:50:56,767 BUT THIS WAS SUCH A DELIBERATE CRIME. 1095 00:50:59,601 --> 00:51:01,968 EVERYBODY'S GOT PROBLEMS. 1096 00:51:03,667 --> 00:51:07,300 WHY THEY'RE EXEMPLIFYING MATTHEW SHEPARD, I DON'T KNOW. 1097 00:51:08,434 --> 00:51:10,033 A HATE CRIME'S A HATE CRIME. 1098 00:51:10,100 --> 00:51:11,601 YOU MURDER SOMEBODY, YOU HATE 'EM. 1099 00:51:11,667 --> 00:51:14,934 IT HAS NOTHING TO DO IF YOU'RE A GAY OR A PROSTITUTE. 1100 00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:17,701 I DON'T KNOW. 1101 00:51:19,667 --> 00:51:22,534 I DON'T UNDERSTAND. 1102 00:51:26,100 --> 00:51:27,968 I DON'T UNDERSTAND. 1103 00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:39,067 NOVEMBER 29th, 1998, 1104 00:51:39,133 --> 00:51:41,334 WE'RE ABOUT TO INTERVIEW FATHER ROGER SCHMIT. 1105 00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:42,934 HERE WE GO. 1106 00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:46,000 TWO QUEERS AND A CATHOLIC PRIEST. 1107 00:51:47,067 --> 00:51:48,801 MATTHEW SHEPARD 1108 00:51:48,868 --> 00:51:51,601 HAS SERVED US WELL. 1109 00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:55,367 YOU REALIZE THAT, HE HAS SERVED US WELL. 1110 00:51:55,434 --> 00:51:59,000 I CANNOT MENTION ANYONE WHO HAS DONE MORE FOR THIS COMMUNITY 1111 00:51:59,067 --> 00:52:01,300 THAN MATTHEW SHEPARD. 1112 00:52:01,367 --> 00:52:04,000 AND I'M NOT GONNA SIT HERE AND SAY 1113 00:52:04,067 --> 00:52:07,467 I WAS JUST THIS BOLD GUY, NO FEAR. 1114 00:52:07,534 --> 00:52:09,334 I WAS SCARED. 1115 00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:12,634 I WAS VERY VOCAL IN THIS COMMUNITY 1116 00:52:12,701 --> 00:52:15,100 WHEN THIS HAPPENED, SO, I THOUGHT, YOU KNOW, 1117 00:52:15,167 --> 00:52:19,067 SHOULD WE CALL THE BISHOP AND ASK HIM PERMISSION 1118 00:52:19,133 --> 00:52:20,934 TO DO THE VIGIL ? 1119 00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:22,234 AND I WAS LIKE... 1120 00:52:22,300 --> 00:52:24,801 HELL, NO ! 1121 00:52:24,868 --> 00:52:26,934 I'M NOT GOING TO DO THAT. 1122 00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:29,667 HIS PERMISSION DOESN'T MAKE IT CORRECT. 1123 00:52:29,734 --> 00:52:31,367 AND I'M NOT KNOCKING BISHOPS, 1124 00:52:31,434 --> 00:52:34,400 BUT WHAT IS CORRECT IS CORRECT. 1125 00:52:34,467 --> 00:52:38,934 YOU THINK VIOLENCE IS WHAT THEY DID TO MATTHEW ? 1126 00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:42,334 THEY DID DO VIOLENCE TO MATTHEW. 1127 00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:44,067 BUT, YOU KNOW, 1128 00:52:44,133 --> 00:52:47,000 CAN I MAKE THIS PERSONAL ? 1129 00:52:47,067 --> 00:52:48,968 YEAH, SURE. 1130 00:52:49,033 --> 00:52:52,901 EVERY TIME YOU ARE CALLED A FAG 1131 00:52:52,968 --> 00:52:56,400 OR YOU ARE CALLED A LES OR 1132 00:52:56,467 --> 00:52:58,667 OR A DYKE. 1133 00:52:58,734 --> 00:53:00,400 DYKE, YEAH, DYKE. 1134 00:53:00,467 --> 00:53:03,567 DO YOU REALIZE THAT IS VIOLENCE ? 1135 00:53:03,634 --> 00:53:05,801 THAT IS, THAT IS THE SEED OF VIOLENCE. 1136 00:53:05,868 --> 00:53:10,334 AND I WOULD RESENT IT IMNSELY IF YOU USE ANYTHING I SAID 1137 00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:14,400 TO SOMEHOW CULTIVATE THAT KIND OF VIOLENCE. 1138 00:53:14,467 --> 00:53:17,334 WELL, THANK YOU, FATHER, FOR SAYING THAT. 1139 00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:19,133 JUST DEAL 1140 00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:20,734 WITH WHAT IS TRUE. 1141 00:53:20,801 --> 00:53:24,400 YOU KNOW WHAT IS TRUE. 1142 00:53:25,767 --> 00:53:29,467 ( Father Roger on tape ) You need to do your best to say it correct. 1143 00:53:31,834 --> 00:53:33,601 THESE PEOPLE TRUST US. 1144 00:53:33,667 --> 00:53:35,167 YOU KNOW, THEY WANT... 1145 00:53:35,234 --> 00:53:39,968 THEY WANT EVERYONE TO KNOW THAT THEY ARE NOT THIS CRIME. 1146 00:53:43,300 --> 00:53:45,868 IT'S MORE THAN CLEARING LARAMIE'S NAME, 1147 00:53:45,934 --> 00:53:47,467 IT'S CLEARING THEIR OWN. 1148 00:53:47,534 --> 00:53:51,100 AND I DON'T KNOW THAT WE CAN DO THAT. 1149 00:53:59,801 --> 00:54:00,767 REVEREND. 1150 00:54:00,834 --> 00:54:02,400 REVEREND, HI. 1151 00:54:02,467 --> 00:54:04,567 MY NAME'S AMANDA, I'M WITH THE THEATRE COMPANY 1152 00:54:04,634 --> 00:54:06,868 THAT'S BEEN SPEAKING WITH PEOPLE HERE IN LARAMIE. 1153 00:54:06,934 --> 00:54:09,968 WELL, LET ME TELL YOU... 1154 00:54:10,033 --> 00:54:13,167 I DON'T KNOW THAT I REALLY WANT TO TALK WITH ANYBODY AT ALL 1155 00:54:13,234 --> 00:54:15,100 ABOUT THIS INCIDENT. 1156 00:54:15,167 --> 00:54:17,534 I'M SOMEWHAT INVOLVED 1157 00:54:17,601 --> 00:54:20,033 AND I REALLY DON'T FEEL LIKE IT'S APPROPRIATE. 1158 00:54:20,100 --> 00:54:21,968 I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND, 1159 00:54:22,033 --> 00:54:24,133 I JUST WANTED TO TELL YOU I WENT TO YOUR SERVICE. 1160 00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:25,868 YOU WENT TO THE SERVICE ? 1161 00:54:25,934 --> 00:54:27,500 ON SUNDAY ? YES, I DID. 1162 00:54:27,567 --> 00:54:28,767 YES. 1163 00:54:28,834 --> 00:54:29,934 DID I MEET YOU ? 1164 00:54:30,033 --> 00:54:31,133 BRIEFLY. 1165 00:54:31,200 --> 00:54:33,334 YOU WELCOMED US IN THE BEGINNING. 1166 00:54:35,267 --> 00:54:38,267 WELL, I WILL TELL YOU THAT I AM INVOLVED. 1167 00:54:38,334 --> 00:54:40,400 HALF THE PEOPLE IN THE CASE, 1168 00:54:40,467 --> 00:54:42,834 WELL, THE GIRLFRIEND OF THE ACCUSED 1169 00:54:42,901 --> 00:54:44,734 IS A MEMBER OF OUR CONGREGATION. 1170 00:54:44,801 --> 00:54:46,968 AND ONE OF THE ACCUSED HAS VISITED. 1171 00:54:47,033 --> 00:54:49,834 I THINK THEY DESERVE THE DEATH PENALTY, 1172 00:54:49,901 --> 00:54:54,968 BUT I WILL TRY TO DEAL WITH THEM SPIRITUALLY. 1173 00:54:56,133 --> 00:54:58,267 NOW, AS FAR AS THE VICTIM... 1174 00:54:59,534 --> 00:55:02,133 I KNOW THAT THAT LIFESTYLE IS LEGAL. 1175 00:55:02,200 --> 00:55:04,100 BUT I WILL TELL YOU ONE THING, 1176 00:55:04,167 --> 00:55:07,234 I HOPE MATTHEW SHEPARD, 1177 00:55:07,300 --> 00:55:10,100 AS HE WAS TIED TO THAT FENCE, 1178 00:55:10,167 --> 00:55:15,767 THAT HE HAD TIME TO REFLECT ON A MOMENT WHEN... 1179 00:55:15,834 --> 00:55:19,901 SOMEBODY HAD SPOKEN THE WORD OF THE LORD TO HIM. 1180 00:55:21,534 --> 00:55:23,801 AND THAT BEFORE HE SLIPPED INTO A COMA, 1181 00:55:23,868 --> 00:55:29,167 HE HAD A CHANCE TO REFLECT ON HIS LIFESTYLE. 1182 00:55:34,267 --> 00:55:36,234 THANK YOU, REVEREND. 1183 00:55:36,300 --> 00:55:37,601 I APPRECIATE YOUR SPEAKING WITH ME. 1184 00:55:37,667 --> 00:55:38,634 ALRIGHT. 1185 00:55:38,701 --> 00:55:40,434 WE BETTER GO. 1186 00:55:50,934 --> 00:55:52,734 I LET HIM SAY THAT TO ME. 1187 00:55:52,801 --> 00:55:54,634 I LET HIM SAY THAT TO ME. 1188 00:55:54,701 --> 00:55:56,801 AND I DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING BACK. 1189 00:56:22,567 --> 00:56:24,834 At 12 midnight 1190 00:56:24,901 --> 00:56:26,868 on Monday, October 12th, 1191 00:56:26,934 --> 00:56:30,500 Matthew Shepard's blood pressure began to drop. 1192 00:56:30,567 --> 00:56:33,067 We immediately notified the family 1193 00:56:33,133 --> 00:56:37,634 who were already at the hospital. 1194 00:56:38,834 --> 00:56:40,934 AT 12:53 A.M. 1195 00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:43,734 MATTHEW SHEPARD DIED. 1196 00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:47,434 HIS FAMILY WAS AT HIS BEDSIDE. 1197 00:56:47,500 --> 00:56:51,834 THE FAMILY DID RELEASE THE FOLLOWING STATEMENT. 1198 00:56:51,901 --> 00:56:55,968 THEY AGAIN ASKED ME TO EXPRESS THEIR SINCEREST GRATITUDE TO... 1199 00:56:56,033 --> 00:56:59,334 TO THE ENTIRE WORLD 1200 00:56:59,400 --> 00:57:01,901 FOR THE OVERWHELMING 1201 00:57:01,968 --> 00:57:04,634 RESPONSE TO THEIR SON. 1202 00:57:04,701 --> 00:57:07,567 THE FAMILY WAS GRATEFUL THAT THEY DID NOT HAVE TO 1203 00:57:07,634 --> 00:57:11,567 MAKE A DECISION REGARDING WHETHER OR NOT 1204 00:57:11,634 --> 00:57:14,167 TO CONTINUE LIFE SUPPORT FOR THEIR SON. 1205 00:57:14,234 --> 00:57:16,801 "LIKE A GOOD SON, 1206 00:57:16,868 --> 00:57:19,334 "HE WAS CARING TO THE END. 1207 00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:22,334 "AND REMOVED GUILT OR STRESS FROM THE FAMILY. 1208 00:57:22,400 --> 00:57:25,868 "HE CAME INTO THE WORLD PREMATURE 1209 00:57:25,934 --> 00:57:29,601 AND LEFT THE WORLD PREMATURE." 1210 00:57:30,500 --> 00:57:33,200 MATTHEW'S MOTHER SAID... 1211 00:57:48,300 --> 00:57:50,767 WE'D BEEN UP FOR LIKE, 72 HOURS STRAIGHT 1212 00:57:50,834 --> 00:57:54,567 AND GONE HOME AND GONE TO SLEEP FOR HALF AN HOUR 1213 00:57:54,634 --> 00:57:56,968 AND GET UP AND COME, MAYBE I WAS JUST WAY-- 1214 00:57:57,033 --> 00:57:59,534 I DON'T KNOW. 1215 00:57:59,601 --> 00:58:02,133 WHEN I WAS READING THAT STATEMENT, 1216 00:58:02,200 --> 00:58:04,534 I THOUGHT ABOUT MY OWN FOUR DAUGHTERS 1217 00:58:04,601 --> 00:58:08,367 AND SHE DOESN'T HAVE HER KID ANYMORE. 1218 00:58:11,500 --> 00:58:13,367 "GO HOME." 1219 00:58:13,434 --> 00:58:16,334 "GIVE YOUR KIDS A HUG." 1220 00:58:20,100 --> 00:58:22,067 "DON'T LET A DAY GO BY 1221 00:58:22,133 --> 00:58:24,634 WITHOUT TELLING THEM THAT YOU LOVE THEM." 1222 00:58:25,767 --> 00:58:28,701 AND THEN, WE STARTED GETTING PEOPLE SENDING US 1223 00:58:28,767 --> 00:58:31,133 ALL THESE E-MAILS AND LETTERS. 1224 00:58:31,200 --> 00:58:34,467 "DO YOU CRY LIKE A BABY ON TV FOR ALL YOUR PATIENTS 1225 00:58:34,534 --> 00:58:37,167 OR JUST THE FAGGOTS ?" 1226 00:58:37,234 --> 00:58:38,534 JESUS. 1227 00:58:38,601 --> 00:58:41,200 AFTER BEING THROWN INTO THIS, 1228 00:58:41,267 --> 00:58:43,367 I GUESS I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND THE MAGNITUDE 1229 00:58:43,434 --> 00:58:47,334 WITH WHICH SOME PEOPLE HATE. 1230 00:58:48,868 --> 00:58:50,534 AND OF ALL THE LETTERS WE GOT, 1231 00:58:50,601 --> 00:58:52,334 THERE WERE TWO OR THREE THAT WERE LIKE THAT. 1232 00:58:52,400 --> 00:58:53,934 MOST WERE THANKS 1233 00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:58,334 FOR YOUR CARING AND COMPASSION. 1234 00:58:58,400 --> 00:59:00,834 AND MATTHEW... 1235 00:59:03,267 --> 00:59:06,767 MATTHEW GOT CARING AND COMPASSION 1236 00:59:06,834 --> 00:59:10,167 FROM THE MOMENT HE GOT HERE. 1237 00:59:16,634 --> 00:59:18,200 ( male reporter ) The charges against 1238 00:59:18,267 --> 00:59:20,434 Russell Henderson and Aaron McKinney 1239 00:59:20,500 --> 00:59:22,367 were upgraded to first degree murder 1240 00:59:22,434 --> 00:59:25,133 after Matthew Shepard died early Monday morning. 1241 00:59:25,200 --> 00:59:26,934 If convicted, 1242 00:59:27,000 --> 00:59:29,167 the two men could face the death penalty. 1243 00:59:29,234 --> 00:59:31,133 I'LL TELL YOU WHAT, 1244 00:59:31,200 --> 00:59:33,701 IF THEY PUT THOSE TWO BOYS TO DEATH, 1245 00:59:33,767 --> 00:59:36,000 THAT WOULD DEFEAT EVERYTHING 1246 00:59:36,067 --> 00:59:37,467 THAT MATT WOULD BE THINKING ABOUT THEM. 1247 00:59:37,534 --> 00:59:40,500 BECAUSE HE WOULD NOT WANT THOSE TWO TO DIE. 1248 00:59:40,567 --> 00:59:42,100 HE'D WANT TO LEAVE THEM WITH HOPE. 1249 00:59:42,167 --> 00:59:43,434 H-O-P-E. 1250 00:59:43,500 --> 00:59:45,934 JUST LIKE THE WHOLE WORLD... 1251 00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:48,500 HOPED THAT MATT WOULD SURVIVE. 1252 00:59:48,567 --> 00:59:51,000 THIS WHOLE THING, YOU SEE WHAT I'M SAYING ? 1253 00:59:51,067 --> 00:59:53,367 THIS WHOLE THING ROPES AROUND HOPE. 1254 00:59:53,434 --> 00:59:55,667 H-O-P-E. 1255 01:00:10,467 --> 01:00:12,033 ( Matt Galloway ) ON THE DAY OF THE FUNERAL, 1256 01:00:12,100 --> 01:00:14,067 IT WAS SNOWING AND RAINING SO BAD. 1257 01:00:14,133 --> 01:00:15,601 BY THE TIME I GOT THERE, 1258 01:00:15,667 --> 01:00:17,634 THERE WERE ALREADY THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE THERE 1259 01:00:17,701 --> 01:00:19,167 DRESSED IN BLACK, UMBRELLAS EVERYWHERE. 1260 01:00:19,234 --> 01:00:21,767 AND THEY HAD TWO CHURCHES SET UP 1261 01:00:21,834 --> 01:00:23,868 AND STILL, THERE WERE HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE OUTSIDE 1262 01:00:23,934 --> 01:00:26,234 WHO COULDN'T FIT INTO EITHER ONE OF THE CHURCHES 1263 01:00:26,300 --> 01:00:27,834 AND THEY HAD THIS PARK SET UP. 1264 01:00:27,901 --> 01:00:29,901 AND THE PARK WAS FULL. 1265 01:00:37,467 --> 01:00:40,133 ( male ) THOSE SHALL NOT LIE DOWN WITH MANKIND 1266 01:00:40,200 --> 01:00:41,267 AS IN WOMANKIND ! 1267 01:00:41,334 --> 01:00:42,500 IT IS ABOMINATION. 1268 01:00:42,567 --> 01:00:45,734 MATTHEW SHEPARD LIVED HIS LIFE BREAKING THAT COMMANDMENT. 1269 01:00:45,801 --> 01:00:49,133 NOW, IF HE REPENTED IN HIS DYING HOURS, WHICH WE HOPE HE DID, 1270 01:00:49,200 --> 01:00:51,767 IF NOT, HE IS IN HELL ALONG WITH THOSE KILLERS. 1271 01:00:51,834 --> 01:00:53,400 DO YOU BELIEVE IN THE BIBLE ? 1272 01:00:53,467 --> 01:00:54,734 DO YOU BELIEVE YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO 1273 01:00:54,801 --> 01:00:56,500 SEPARATE THE PRECIOUS FROM THE VILE ? 1274 01:00:56,567 --> 01:00:58,167 NO, YOU DON'T BELIEVE THAT PART OF THE BIBLE. 1275 01:00:58,234 --> 01:00:59,300 YOU JUST STAND OVER THERE 1276 01:00:59,367 --> 01:01:02,667 IGNORANT OF THE FACT THAT FOR EVERY TWO TIMES... 1277 01:01:07,734 --> 01:01:11,100 AFTER SEEING PHELPS PROTESTING AT MATTHEW'S FUNERAL, 1278 01:01:11,167 --> 01:01:13,734 AND THEN HEARING THAT HE'S COMING BACK TO LARAMIE 1279 01:01:13,801 --> 01:01:15,534 FOR THE TRIAL OF RUSSELL HENDERSON, 1280 01:01:15,601 --> 01:01:18,801 I DECIDED THAT SOMEONE NEEDS TO STAND TOE-TO-TOE WITH HIM 1281 01:01:18,868 --> 01:01:20,234 AND SHOW THE DIFFERENCE. 1282 01:01:20,300 --> 01:01:22,467 SOME PEOPLE ARE GONNA BE SENT TO HELL 1283 01:01:22,534 --> 01:01:26,033 AND I THINK YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE ! 1284 01:01:26,968 --> 01:01:29,434 WE WOULDN'T BE HERE IF THIS WAS JUST ANOTHER MURDER 1285 01:01:29,500 --> 01:01:32,000 THAT THE STATE WAS GONNA HANDLE. 1286 01:01:32,067 --> 01:01:34,934 THE STATE HANDLES HUNDREDS OF MURDERS ! 1287 01:01:35,000 --> 01:01:36,667 THIS MURDER 1288 01:01:36,734 --> 01:01:38,167 IS DIFFERENT. 1289 01:01:38,234 --> 01:01:39,701 BECAUSE THE GAY... 1290 01:01:39,767 --> 01:01:41,200 HE'S NOT EVEN FROM LARAMIE. 1291 01:01:41,267 --> 01:01:43,067 HE JUST TRAVELS AROUND THE COUNTRY 1292 01:01:43,133 --> 01:01:45,567 DOING HIS DEMONSTRATIONS. 1293 01:01:51,734 --> 01:01:53,267 SO, WE'RE PLANNING AN EVENT. 1294 01:01:53,334 --> 01:01:56,067 WE'RE CALLING IT "ANGEL ACTION". 1295 01:01:56,133 --> 01:01:58,500 THIS 21-YEAR-OLD LITTLE LESBIAN 1296 01:01:58,567 --> 01:02:00,434 IS GONNA WALK THE LINE WITH THEM. 1297 01:02:04,267 --> 01:02:05,601 SPARE NOT ! 1298 01:02:05,667 --> 01:02:08,400 YOU LIFT UP YOUR VOICE LIKE A TRUMPET ! 1299 01:02:09,701 --> 01:02:13,367 AND YOU SHOW MY PEOPLE THEIR TRANSGRESSIONS. 1300 01:02:14,000 --> 01:02:16,334 WE ARE SENDING THE MESSAGE OF GOD. 1301 01:02:16,400 --> 01:02:18,200 GOD'S ANGER IS PURE. 1302 01:02:18,267 --> 01:02:21,567 GOD IS GONNA SEND SOMEONE TO HELL ! 1303 01:02:21,634 --> 01:02:24,133 THAT'S GOD'S ANGER ! 1304 01:02:24,200 --> 01:02:27,968 NOW, WE WOULDN'T BE HERE-- 1305 01:02:43,734 --> 01:02:47,200 ( male ) ... TO BE TAUGHT BY FAGGOTS IN YOUR SCHOOLS ? 1306 01:02:47,267 --> 01:02:49,434 WE'RE NOT GONNA LET THAT HAPPEN. 1307 01:03:11,767 --> 01:03:13,534 AS SOON AS THEY STARTED JURY SELECTION, 1308 01:03:13,601 --> 01:03:15,500 EVERYONE WAS COMING INTO MY SHOP WITH 1309 01:03:15,567 --> 01:03:17,601 "I DON'T WANT TO BE ON THIS TRIAL. 1310 01:03:17,667 --> 01:03:19,167 "I HOPE THEY DON'T CALL ME. 1311 01:03:19,234 --> 01:03:22,601 OR "OH, MY GOD, I GOT CALLED, HOW DO I GET OFF ?" 1312 01:03:22,667 --> 01:03:27,000 JUST WANTING TO GET AS FAR AWAY FROM IT AS THEY COULD. 1313 01:03:27,067 --> 01:03:29,067 VERY FEARFUL 1314 01:03:29,133 --> 01:03:32,601 THAT THEY WERE GONNA HAVE TO BE PART OF THAT JURY. 1315 01:03:34,033 --> 01:03:37,000 AND THEN I HEARD HENDERSON HAD TO SIT IN THE COURTROOM 1316 01:03:37,067 --> 01:03:40,200 WHILE THEY QUESTIONED PERSPECTIVE JURORS. 1317 01:03:40,267 --> 01:03:43,400 AND ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THEY ASKED WAS... 1318 01:03:43,467 --> 01:03:46,300 "WOULD YOU BE WILLING 1319 01:03:46,367 --> 01:03:49,033 TO PUT THIS PERSON TO DEATH ?" 1320 01:03:49,100 --> 01:03:51,868 AND I UNDERSTAND A LOT OF THE COMMENTS WERE... 1321 01:03:51,934 --> 01:03:53,901 "YES, I WOULD. 1322 01:03:53,968 --> 01:03:55,868 "ABSOLUTELY. 1323 01:03:55,934 --> 01:03:59,267 YEP, NO PROBLEM." 1324 01:04:01,000 --> 01:04:02,868 CAN YOU IMAGINE HEARING THAT ? 1325 01:04:02,934 --> 01:04:06,200 JUROR AFTER JUROR 1326 01:04:06,267 --> 01:04:09,200 AFTER JUROR ? 1327 01:04:11,100 --> 01:04:14,968 THESE ARE PEOPLE THAT HE KNOWS. 1328 01:04:16,133 --> 01:04:19,067 NO WONDER HE CHANGED HIS PLEA. 1329 01:04:19,400 --> 01:04:21,868 YOU ENTERED A NOT-GUILTY PLEA EARLIER, MR. HENDERSON. 1330 01:04:21,934 --> 01:04:25,634 BUT I UNDERSTAND YOU WISH TO CHANGE YOUR PLEA TODAY ? 1331 01:04:25,701 --> 01:04:26,767 YES, SIR. 1332 01:04:26,834 --> 01:04:29,634 YOU UNDERSTAND THAT THE RECOMMENDED SENTENCE HERE 1333 01:04:29,701 --> 01:04:32,067 IS TWO LIFE SENTENCES ? 1334 01:04:33,100 --> 01:04:34,200 YES, SIR. 1335 01:04:34,267 --> 01:04:37,334 AND DO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT THOSE MAY RUN CONCURRENTLY 1336 01:04:37,400 --> 01:04:39,467 OR THEY MAY RUN CONSECUTIVELY ? 1337 01:04:39,534 --> 01:04:41,934 YES, SIR. 1338 01:04:42,000 --> 01:04:43,734 BEFORE THE COURT MAKES THAT DECISION, 1339 01:04:43,801 --> 01:04:45,934 I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE ARE STATEMENTS TO BE MADE BY 1340 01:04:46,000 --> 01:04:47,434 AT LEAST ONE INDIVIDUAL. 1341 01:04:47,500 --> 01:04:50,000 LET'S PROCEED WITH THAT. 1342 01:04:52,968 --> 01:04:54,200 AS THE GRANDMOTHER 1343 01:04:54,267 --> 01:04:58,000 AND THE PERSON WHO RAISED RUSSELL ALONG WITH MY FAMILY, 1344 01:04:58,067 --> 01:05:01,834 WE HAVE WRITTEN THE FOLLOWING STATEMENT. 1345 01:05:01,901 --> 01:05:05,701 "OUR HEARTS ACHE FOR THE PAIN AND SUFFERING 1346 01:05:05,767 --> 01:05:07,934 "THAT THE SHEPARD'S HAVE WENT THROUGH. 1347 01:05:08,000 --> 01:05:11,234 "WE HAVE PRAYED FOR YOUR FAMILY SINCE THE VERY BEGINNING. 1348 01:05:11,300 --> 01:05:14,200 "MANY TIMES THROUGHOUT THE DAY, 1349 01:05:14,267 --> 01:05:16,167 "I HAVE THOUGHT ABOUT MATT 1350 01:05:16,234 --> 01:05:19,634 "AND YOU WILL CONTINUE TO BE IN OUR THOUGHTS AND PRAYERS. 1351 01:05:19,701 --> 01:05:23,133 "AS WE KNOW THAT YOUR PAIN WILL NEVER GO AWAY. 1352 01:05:23,200 --> 01:05:26,601 "YOU HAVE SHOWED SUCH MERCY AND WE ARE SO GRATEFUL 1353 01:05:26,667 --> 01:05:30,567 "THAT YOU ARE GIVING US ALL THE OPPORTUNITY TO LIVE. 1354 01:05:31,834 --> 01:05:33,267 "YOUR HONOR, 1355 01:05:33,334 --> 01:05:35,667 "WE AS A FAMILY, 1356 01:05:35,734 --> 01:05:38,834 "HOPE THAT AS YOU SENTENCE RUSSELL, 1357 01:05:38,901 --> 01:05:42,033 "THAT YOU WILL DO IT CONCURRENTLY 1358 01:05:42,100 --> 01:05:46,033 "FOR TWO LIFE TERMS. 1359 01:05:47,300 --> 01:05:49,167 "FOR THE RUSSELL WE KNOW AND LOVE, 1360 01:05:49,234 --> 01:05:52,534 "WE HUMBLY PLEAD, YOUR HONOR, 1361 01:05:52,601 --> 01:05:57,000 "TO NOT TAKE RUSSELL COMPLETELY OUT OF OUR LIVES... 1362 01:05:57,067 --> 01:05:59,500 FOREVER." 1363 01:06:05,100 --> 01:06:06,868 MR. AND MRS. SHEPARD, 1364 01:06:06,934 --> 01:06:09,500 THERE IS NOT A MOMENT THAT GOES BY THAT I DON'T 1365 01:06:09,567 --> 01:06:13,067 SEE WHAT HAPPENED THAT NIGHT. 1366 01:06:14,234 --> 01:06:16,334 I KNOW WHAT I DID WAS VERY WRONG. 1367 01:06:16,400 --> 01:06:19,934 AND I REGRET GREATLY WHAT I DID. 1368 01:06:20,000 --> 01:06:24,701 YOU HAVE MY GREATEST SYMPATHIES FOR WHAT HAPPENED. 1369 01:06:26,701 --> 01:06:29,133 I HOPE THAT... 1370 01:06:29,200 --> 01:06:31,968 ONE DAY YOU WILL BE ABLE TO FIND IT IN YOUR HEARTS 1371 01:06:32,033 --> 01:06:34,234 TO FORGIVE ME. 1372 01:06:39,467 --> 01:06:40,634 MR. HENDERSON, 1373 01:06:40,701 --> 01:06:43,934 THIS COURT DOES NOT BELIEVE THAT YOU REALLY FEEL ANY TRUE REMORSE 1374 01:06:44,000 --> 01:06:46,534 FOR YOUR PART IN THIS MATTER. 1375 01:06:46,601 --> 01:06:48,868 AND I WONDER WHETHER YOU FULLY REALIZE 1376 01:06:48,934 --> 01:06:51,200 THE GRAVITY OF WHAT YOU HAVE DONE. 1377 01:06:51,267 --> 01:06:55,100 YOU DROVE THE VEHICLE THAT TOOK MATTHEW SHEPARD TO HIS DEATH. 1378 01:06:55,167 --> 01:06:58,534 YOU BOUND HIM TO THAT FENCE, 1379 01:06:58,601 --> 01:07:01,701 IN ORDER THAT HE MIGHT BE MORE SAVAGELY BEATEN. 1380 01:07:01,767 --> 01:07:05,100 AND IN ORDER THAT HE MIGHT NOT ESCAPE TO TELL HIS TALE. 1381 01:07:05,167 --> 01:07:09,033 YOU LEFT HIM OUT THERE FOR 18 HOURS, 1382 01:07:09,100 --> 01:07:12,834 PERHAPS HAVING AN OPPORTUNITY TO SAVE HIS LIFE 1383 01:07:12,901 --> 01:07:15,701 AND YOU DID NOTHING. 1384 01:07:15,767 --> 01:07:18,167 AS TO COUNT THREE, 1385 01:07:18,234 --> 01:07:20,634 THAT BEING FELONY MURDER WITH ROBBERY, 1386 01:07:20,701 --> 01:07:23,567 YOU ARE TO SERVE A PERIOD OF IMPRISONMENT 1387 01:07:23,634 --> 01:07:26,033 FOR THE TERM OF YOUR NATURAL LIFE. 1388 01:07:26,100 --> 01:07:27,667 FOR COUNT ONE, 1389 01:07:27,734 --> 01:07:29,868 KIDNAPPING, 1390 01:07:29,934 --> 01:07:32,567 THAT YOU ARE TO SERVE A PERIOD OF IMPRISONMENT 1391 01:07:32,634 --> 01:07:34,968 FOR THE TERM OF YOUR NATURAL LIFE. 1392 01:07:35,033 --> 01:07:38,734 SENTENCING FOR COUNT ONE TO RUN CONSECUTIVE 1393 01:07:38,801 --> 01:07:41,200 TO SENTENCING FOR COUNT THREE. 1394 01:07:42,400 --> 01:07:45,167 ( sobbing ) 1395 01:07:52,868 --> 01:07:53,968 AFTER THIS SENTENCING, 1396 01:07:54,033 --> 01:07:56,133 THE MORMAN CHURCH DECIDED TO EXCOMMUNICATE RUSSELL. 1397 01:07:56,200 --> 01:07:58,834 NOW, HE'S GOT A MORMON HOME TEACHER 1398 01:07:58,901 --> 01:08:00,634 THAT VISITS HIM IN PRISON EVERY WEEK. 1399 01:08:00,701 --> 01:08:03,767 NOW NOBODY FROM THE CHURCH IS GONNA GO VISIT HIM ? 1400 01:08:03,834 --> 01:08:04,868 NOT SUPPOSED TO. 1401 01:08:04,934 --> 01:08:06,100 THEY'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO PRAY FOR HIM, 1402 01:08:06,167 --> 01:08:07,734 HE'LL JUST SORT OF DISAPPEAR. 1403 01:08:07,801 --> 01:08:10,500 ( reporters yelling ) 1404 01:08:26,200 --> 01:08:28,534 WHAT HAPPENED THAT NIGHT ? 1405 01:08:28,601 --> 01:08:32,000 WE NEED TO KNOW. 1406 01:08:33,868 --> 01:08:36,500 THIS TOWN NEEDS TO KNOW. 1407 01:08:43,434 --> 01:08:45,467 I NEED SOME MORE LIGHT ON THEM. 1408 01:08:45,534 --> 01:08:48,634 I NEVER GET TIRED OF THIS PLAY. 1409 01:08:48,701 --> 01:08:50,667 YEAH, WELL, TRY DIRECTING IT 50 TIMES. 1410 01:08:50,734 --> 01:08:53,467 YOU CAN RELAX, JUST KEEP THE UMBRELLAS UP. 1411 01:08:53,534 --> 01:08:57,467 SO, I HEAR YOU'RE DOING "ANGELS IN AMERICA" NEXT YEAR. 1412 01:08:57,534 --> 01:09:00,267 WE HAVE AN OBLIGATION TO REACH OUR STUDENTS. 1413 01:09:00,334 --> 01:09:02,567 AND THE QUESTION IS, HOW DO YOU MOVE... 1414 01:09:02,634 --> 01:09:05,367 HOW DO YOU REACH A WHOLE STATE 1415 01:09:05,434 --> 01:09:08,968 WHERE'S THERE'S SUCH DEEP-SEEDED HOSTILITY TOWARD GAYS ? 1416 01:09:09,033 --> 01:09:10,100 HOW DO YOU REACH THEM ? 1417 01:09:10,167 --> 01:09:13,434 "ANGELS IN AMERICA" IS JUST THE BEGINNING. 1418 01:09:13,500 --> 01:09:16,334 AND GUESS WHO'S AUDITIONING FOR THE LEAD ? 1419 01:09:16,400 --> 01:09:18,033 MY PARENTS, RIGHT ? 1420 01:09:18,100 --> 01:09:19,467 THEY'RE LIKE, HEY, SO, 1421 01:09:19,534 --> 01:09:21,834 WHAT PLAYS ARE THEY DOING IN SCHOOL THIS YEAR ? 1422 01:09:21,901 --> 01:09:23,100 OH, LET'S SEE, 1423 01:09:23,167 --> 01:09:24,734 "ANGELS IN AMERICA". 1424 01:09:24,801 --> 01:09:26,234 WAIT, WAIT, WAIT. 1425 01:09:26,300 --> 01:09:30,133 "ANGELS IN AMERICA", ISN'T THAT THAT PLAY ? 1426 01:09:30,200 --> 01:09:32,367 THAT SCENE ? 1427 01:09:32,434 --> 01:09:34,868 SO, YOU'RE GONNA... 1428 01:09:34,934 --> 01:09:36,934 AUDITION FOR THIS ? 1429 01:09:37,000 --> 01:09:38,500 AND, I SAID, UM... 1430 01:09:38,567 --> 01:09:40,968 YEAH, I AM. 1431 01:09:41,033 --> 01:09:43,200 HUGE ARGUMENT. 1432 01:09:43,267 --> 01:09:45,534 THERE WAS LIKE, THIS HUGE ARGUMENT. 1433 01:09:45,601 --> 01:09:47,133 MY MOM WAS LIKE, 1434 01:09:47,200 --> 01:09:50,234 HOMOSEXUALITY IS A SIN, HOMOSEXUALITY IS A SIN, HOMOSEXUALITY IS A SIN. 1435 01:09:50,300 --> 01:09:52,100 BUT THE BEST THING, THE BEST THING THEY KNEW... 1436 01:09:52,167 --> 01:09:55,434 THEY HAD JUST SEEN ME RIGHT BEFORE THIS, 1437 01:09:55,500 --> 01:09:58,033 THEY'D JUST SEEN ME ON STAGE IN "MACBETH", RIGHT ? 1438 01:09:58,100 --> 01:10:01,367 I MURDERED THIS LITTLE KID AND LADY MCDUFF 1439 01:10:01,434 --> 01:10:03,100 AND THESE TWO OTHER GUYS, RIGHT ? 1440 01:10:03,167 --> 01:10:03,968 MOM, MOM, MOM. 1441 01:10:04,033 --> 01:10:07,400 I JUST PLAYED A MURDERER TONIGHT 1442 01:10:07,467 --> 01:10:10,334 AND YOU DIDN'T SEEM TO HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH THAT. 1443 01:10:10,400 --> 01:10:11,868 ( chuckling ) 1444 01:10:11,934 --> 01:10:13,234 SO, WHEN'S THE AUDITION ? 1445 01:10:13,300 --> 01:10:14,467 TUESDAY. 1446 01:10:14,534 --> 01:10:17,534 BUT I TELL YOU, MAN, I HAVE NEVER PREPARED MYSELF 1447 01:10:17,601 --> 01:10:19,868 FOR AN AUDITION LIKE THIS IN MY LIFE. 1448 01:10:19,934 --> 01:10:20,734 NEVER, 1449 01:10:20,801 --> 01:10:21,968 NOT EVEN CLOSE. 1450 01:10:22,033 --> 01:10:25,901 YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY SECOND GUESSES WHAT YOU'RE DOING. 1451 01:10:25,968 --> 01:10:28,968 YOU KNOW, YOU GET A LOT OF HEAVY CRITICISM. 1452 01:10:29,033 --> 01:10:31,100 YOU DID EVERYTHING WRONG. 1453 01:10:31,167 --> 01:10:33,567 YOU ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO TOUCH ANYBODY 1454 01:10:33,634 --> 01:10:37,167 UNLESS YOU HAVE YOUR GLOVES ON AND PROTECTIVE GEAR. 1455 01:10:38,801 --> 01:10:41,901 THEN THEY MAKE YOU OUT TO BE SOME KIND OF BIG HERO. 1456 01:10:41,968 --> 01:10:46,334 YOU KNOW, SOME JOE BLOW DOWN THE BLOCK 1457 01:10:46,400 --> 01:10:49,400 COULD'VE DONE A BETTER JOB THAN I DID. 1458 01:10:51,267 --> 01:10:52,567 ( giggling ) 1459 01:10:52,634 --> 01:10:55,300 PEOPLE DO EXTRAORDINARY THINGS EVERY DAY. 1460 01:10:56,767 --> 01:10:59,133 I THINK THIS HAS REALLY BROUGHT HOME TO MY GIRLS... 1461 01:10:59,200 --> 01:11:02,734 WHAT THEIR MOM DOES FOR A LIVING. 1462 01:11:08,968 --> 01:11:10,434 JUST A MINUTE, JUST A MINUTE. 1463 01:11:10,500 --> 01:11:12,767 IT IS THE DECISION OF THE COUNTY'S ATTORNEY'S OFFICE 1464 01:11:12,834 --> 01:11:15,667 THAT THIS WILL DEFINITELY BE TRIED AS A DEATH PENALTY CASE. 1465 01:11:15,734 --> 01:11:17,200 THAT'S ALL I HAVE. 1466 01:11:17,267 --> 01:11:18,534 THANK YOU. 1467 01:11:18,734 --> 01:11:20,467 HOW CAN I PROTEST 1468 01:11:20,534 --> 01:11:22,067 IF THE SHEPARDS WANT McKINNEY DEAD ? 1469 01:11:22,133 --> 01:11:23,334 I JUST CAN'T INTERFERE IN THAT. 1470 01:11:23,400 --> 01:11:26,434 BUT ON A PERSONAL LEVEL, I KNEW AARON IN GRADE SCHOOL. 1471 01:11:26,500 --> 01:11:28,901 HE WASN'T CALLED AARON, WE CALLED HIM AJ. 1472 01:11:28,968 --> 01:11:31,868 HOW CAN WE PUT AJ McKINNEY TO DEATH ? 1473 01:11:31,934 --> 01:11:35,300 I THINK RIGHT NOW OUR MOST IMPORTANT TEACHERS 1474 01:11:35,367 --> 01:11:39,067 MUST BE RUSSELL HENDERSON AND AARON McKINNEY. 1475 01:11:39,133 --> 01:11:40,667 THEY HAVE TO BE OUR TEACHERS. 1476 01:11:40,734 --> 01:11:42,067 HOW DID YOU LEARN ? 1477 01:11:42,133 --> 01:11:45,133 WHAT DID WE DO AS A SOCIETY TO TEACH YOU THAT ? 1478 01:11:45,200 --> 01:11:48,000 SEE, I DON'T KNOW IF MANY PEOPLE WILL LET THEM BE THEIR TEACHER. 1479 01:11:48,067 --> 01:11:51,267 I THINK IT WOULD BE WONDERFUL IF THE JUDGE SAID 1480 01:11:51,334 --> 01:11:55,601 IN ADDITION TO THE SENTENCE, YOU MUST TELL YOUR STORY. 1481 01:11:55,667 --> 01:11:59,567 YOU MUST TELL YOUR STORY. 1482 01:11:59,634 --> 01:12:02,267 THIS IS A TAPE RECORDING OF THE CONFESSION 1483 01:12:02,334 --> 01:12:04,334 GIVEN BY AARON JAMES McKINNEY TO ME 1484 01:12:04,400 --> 01:12:06,033 AS DETECTIVE IN CHARGE OF THE INVESTIGATION. 1485 01:12:06,100 --> 01:12:10,434 THIS CONFESSION WAS RECORDED TWO DAYS AFTER THE ATTACK. 1486 01:12:14,634 --> 01:12:17,801 So, you guys go to the Fireside, right ? 1487 01:12:17,868 --> 01:12:19,133 Yeah. 1488 01:12:19,200 --> 01:12:22,200 Where do you go after you leave the Fireside ? 1489 01:12:22,267 --> 01:12:24,834 Some kid wanted a ride home. 1490 01:12:24,901 --> 01:12:26,267 Uh-huh. 1491 01:12:26,334 --> 01:12:28,033 WHAT'S HE LOOK LIKE ? 1492 01:12:28,100 --> 01:12:29,901 LIKE A QUEER. 1493 01:12:29,968 --> 01:12:33,367 HE LOOKS LIKE A QUEER. 1494 01:12:33,434 --> 01:12:35,467 YEAH, LIKE A FAG, YOU KNOW ? 1495 01:12:35,534 --> 01:12:36,868 UH-HUH. 1496 01:12:36,934 --> 01:12:38,801 OKAY, SO, HOW'D YOU MEET HIM ? 1497 01:12:38,868 --> 01:12:40,834 UH-HUH. FAG ? 1498 01:12:40,901 --> 01:12:42,234 QUEER GUY ? 1499 01:12:42,300 --> 01:12:44,033 WE MET HIM AT THE BAR, 1500 01:12:44,100 --> 01:12:46,634 HE ASKED WHAT WE WERE DRINKING AND WHAT WE WERE DOING. 1501 01:12:46,701 --> 01:12:49,234 OKAY, SO, WHAT HAPPENED AFTER YOU MET HIM ? 1502 01:12:49,300 --> 01:12:52,234 He wanted a ride home and... 1503 01:12:52,300 --> 01:12:55,367 I just thought, well, the dude's drunk, 1504 01:12:55,434 --> 01:12:57,000 let's just take him home. 1505 01:12:57,067 --> 01:12:59,500 When did you and Russ talk about jacking him up ? 1506 01:12:59,567 --> 01:13:01,801 We kinda talked about it at the bar. 1507 01:13:01,868 --> 01:13:03,868 Tell me what happened next. 1508 01:13:03,934 --> 01:13:06,300 We drove him out past Walmart. 1509 01:13:06,367 --> 01:13:08,200 WE GOT OVER THERE AND HE STARTS... 1510 01:13:08,267 --> 01:13:12,234 GRABBING MY LEG AND GRABBING MY GENITALS 1511 01:13:12,300 --> 01:13:16,167 I WAS LIKE, "LOOK, I'M NOT A FUCKING FAGGOT. 1512 01:13:16,234 --> 01:13:18,234 IF YOU TOUCH ME AGAIN, YOU'RE GONNA GET IT." 1513 01:13:18,300 --> 01:13:21,901 I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE HELL HE WAS TRYING TO DO. 1514 01:13:21,968 --> 01:13:25,500 BUT I BEAT HIM UP PRETTY BAD. 1515 01:13:25,567 --> 01:13:28,100 I THINK I KILLED HIM. 1516 01:13:28,167 --> 01:13:30,901 WHAT DID YOU HIT HIM WITH ? 1517 01:13:30,968 --> 01:13:32,901 I BLACKED OUT... 1518 01:13:32,968 --> 01:13:34,767 MY FIST. 1519 01:13:34,834 --> 01:13:36,367 MY PISTOL. 1520 01:13:36,434 --> 01:13:38,634 THE BUTT OF THE GUN. 1521 01:13:40,167 --> 01:13:41,400 WONDERING WHAT HAPPENED TO ME. 1522 01:13:41,467 --> 01:13:43,100 I HAD A FEW BEERS AND I DON'T KNOW. 1523 01:13:43,167 --> 01:13:45,367 IT'S LIKE I COULD SEE WHAT WAS GOING ON, BUT... 1524 01:13:45,434 --> 01:13:48,234 I DON'T KNOW, IT WAS LIKE SOMEBODY ELSE WAS DOING IT. 1525 01:13:48,300 --> 01:13:50,601 WHAT WAS THE FIRST THING THAT HE SAID 1526 01:13:50,667 --> 01:13:52,033 OR THAT HE DID INSIDE THE TRUCK 1527 01:13:52,100 --> 01:13:53,367 THAT MADE YOU WANT TO HIT HIM ? 1528 01:13:53,434 --> 01:13:56,767 WELL, HE PUT HIS HAND ON MY LEG 1529 01:13:56,834 --> 01:13:59,200 AND SLID HIS HAND LIKE HE WAS GONNA GRAB MY BALLS. 1530 01:13:59,267 --> 01:14:04,133 WHEN THAT DEFENSE TEAM ARGUED THAT McKINNEY DID WHAT HE DID 1531 01:14:04,200 --> 01:14:06,767 BECAUSE MATTHEW MADE A PASS AT HIM. 1532 01:14:06,834 --> 01:14:10,000 I JUST WANTED TO VOMIT. 1533 01:14:10,067 --> 01:14:12,934 BECAUSE THAT'S LIKE SAYING IT'S OKAY. 1534 01:14:13,000 --> 01:14:14,734 IT WAS DISGUSTING. 1535 01:14:14,801 --> 01:14:16,467 AND WE WERE ALL JUST DISGUSTED. 1536 01:14:16,534 --> 01:14:18,167 IT WAS LIKE, JUST RUDE, 1537 01:14:18,234 --> 01:14:21,033 RUDE AND THAT WAS LESS THAN INTEGROUS BEHAVIOR 1538 01:14:21,100 --> 01:14:23,200 AND WE WERE ALL JUST DISGUSTED BY THAT QUALITY OF DEFENSE. 1539 01:14:23,267 --> 01:14:25,067 IT'S LIKE THE TWINKIE DEFENSE 1540 01:14:25,133 --> 01:14:27,500 WHEN THE GUY KILLED HARVEY MILK IN MOSCONE. 1541 01:14:27,567 --> 01:14:29,467 IT'S THE SAME THING. 1542 01:14:29,534 --> 01:14:32,500 AS MUCH AS A PART OF ME DIDN'T WANT THE DEFENSE OF THEM SAYING 1543 01:14:32,567 --> 01:14:35,334 THAT IT WAS A GAY BASHING OR GAY PANIC, 1544 01:14:35,400 --> 01:14:38,934 A PART OF ME WAS REALLY GRATEFUL. 1545 01:14:39,000 --> 01:14:42,200 BECAUSE I WAS REALLY AFRAID THAT IN THIS TRIAL 1546 01:14:42,267 --> 01:14:44,133 THEY WERE GONNA TRY AND SAY THAT IT WAS A ROBBERY 1547 01:14:44,200 --> 01:14:45,767 OR IT WAS ABOUT DRUGS. 1548 01:14:45,834 --> 01:14:48,734 SO, WHEN THEY USED GAY PANIC AS THE DEFENSE 1549 01:14:48,801 --> 01:14:51,567 I THOUGHT, THIS IS GOOD. 1550 01:14:51,634 --> 01:14:53,200 BECAUSE IF NOTHING ELSE, 1551 01:14:53,267 --> 01:14:55,901 THE TRUTH IS GONNA COME OUT. 1552 01:14:55,968 --> 01:14:59,567 THE TRUTH IS GONNA BE TOLD ! 1553 01:14:59,634 --> 01:15:02,801 So, about how many times did you hit him in the truck 1554 01:15:02,868 --> 01:15:04,934 BEFORE YOU GUYS STOPPED WHERE YOU LEFT HIM ? 1555 01:15:05,033 --> 01:15:06,567 I'D SAY I HIT HIM TWO OR THREE TIMES. 1556 01:15:06,634 --> 01:15:09,701 PROBABLY THREE TIMES WITH MY FIST 1557 01:15:09,767 --> 01:15:11,868 AND ABOUT SIX TIMES WITH THE PISTOL. 1558 01:15:11,934 --> 01:15:13,033 DID HE ASK YOU TO STOP ? 1559 01:15:13,100 --> 01:15:15,534 WELL, YEAH, HE WAS GETTING THE SHIT KICKED OUT OF HIM. 1560 01:15:15,601 --> 01:15:16,701 WHAT'D HE SAY ? 1561 01:15:16,767 --> 01:15:19,067 AFTER HE ASKED ME TO STOP, 1562 01:15:19,133 --> 01:15:22,234 MOST ALL HE WAS DOING WAS SCREAMING. 1563 01:15:26,167 --> 01:15:27,500 WAS MATTHEW CONSCIOUS 1564 01:15:27,567 --> 01:15:29,067 WHILE RUSSELL WAS TYING HIM TO THE FENCE ? 1565 01:15:29,133 --> 01:15:30,701 YEAH. 1566 01:15:30,767 --> 01:15:33,434 I TOLD HIM, "TURN AROUND AND DON'T LOOK AT MY LICENSE PLATE NUMBER," 1567 01:15:33,500 --> 01:15:35,300 'CAUSE I WAS SCARED HE WOULD TELL THE POLICE. 1568 01:15:35,367 --> 01:15:39,167 AND THEN, I ASKED HIM WHAT MY LICENSE PLATE SAID 1569 01:15:39,234 --> 01:15:41,767 and he read it and that's why I hit him a few more times. 1570 01:15:41,834 --> 01:15:43,968 Just to be sure. 1571 01:15:44,033 --> 01:15:47,634 MY SECRET HOPE WAS THAT THEY WERE FROM SOMEWHERE ELSE. 1572 01:15:47,701 --> 01:15:50,734 THAT THEN YOU CAN CREATE THIS DISTANCE. 1573 01:15:50,801 --> 01:15:54,033 WE DON'T GROW CHILDREN LIKE THAT HERE. 1574 01:15:55,868 --> 01:15:59,434 WELL, IT'S PRETTY CLEAR WE DO GROW CHILDREN LIKE THAT HERE. 1575 01:15:59,500 --> 01:16:01,834 SO, OBVIOUSLY, YOU DON'T LIKE GAY PEOPLE. 1576 01:16:01,901 --> 01:16:04,133 NO, I DON'T. 1577 01:16:04,200 --> 01:16:06,067 WOULD YOU SAY YOU HATE THEM ? 1578 01:16:07,868 --> 01:16:10,167 NO, I REALLY DON'T HATE THEM, BUT, 1579 01:16:10,234 --> 01:16:13,467 YOU KNOW, WHEN THEY START COMI ON TO ME AND STUFF LIKE THAT, 1580 01:16:13,534 --> 01:16:15,367 I GET PRETTY AGGRAVATED. 1581 01:16:15,434 --> 01:16:17,467 SO, YOU'VE BEEN APPROACHED BY GAY PEOPLE BEFORE ? 1582 01:16:17,534 --> 01:16:19,267 NO, NOT REALLY. 1583 01:16:19,334 --> 01:16:21,601 DID HE THREATEN YOU ? 1584 01:16:21,667 --> 01:16:23,767 THIS GAY DUDE ? YEAH. 1585 01:16:23,834 --> 01:16:25,133 NO. 1586 01:16:25,200 --> 01:16:27,567 CAN YOU ANSWER ME ONE THING ? 1587 01:16:27,634 --> 01:16:30,601 WHY DID YOU GUYS TAKE HIS SHOES ? 1588 01:16:30,667 --> 01:16:32,968 I DON'T KNOW. 1589 01:16:35,133 --> 01:16:38,567 I'M NEVER GONNA GET TO SEE MY SON AGAIN ? 1590 01:16:43,100 --> 01:16:45,734 I DON'T KNOW. 1591 01:16:48,868 --> 01:16:51,167 HE'S GONNA DIE FOR SURE ? 1592 01:16:51,234 --> 01:16:55,200 THERE'S NO DOUBT THAT MR. SHEPARD IS GOING TO DIE. 1593 01:16:59,167 --> 01:17:00,300 SO, WHAT ARE THEY GONNA GIVE ME, 1594 01:17:00,367 --> 01:17:01,734 25 TO LIFE ? 1595 01:17:01,801 --> 01:17:04,467 OR THE DEATH PENALTY AND JUST GET IT OVER WITH ? 1596 01:17:04,534 --> 01:17:06,200 THAT'S NOT OUR JOB. 1597 01:17:06,267 --> 01:17:10,300 That's the job of the judge and the jury. 1598 01:17:17,200 --> 01:17:18,567 NOW, THE STRANGE THING IS 1599 01:17:18,634 --> 01:17:20,767 20 MINUTES BEFORE MATTHEW WAS BROUGHT IN, 1600 01:17:20,834 --> 01:17:23,100 AARON McKINNEY, ONE OF THE PERPETRATORS, 1601 01:17:23,167 --> 01:17:25,133 WAS BROUGHT IN BY HIS GIRLFRIEND. 1602 01:17:25,200 --> 01:17:27,500 WAIT, McKINNEY WAS HERE ? 1603 01:17:27,567 --> 01:17:28,534 YEAH. 1604 01:17:28,601 --> 01:17:31,067 I GUESS HE WENT BACK INTO TOWN LATER THAT SAME NIGHT 1605 01:17:31,133 --> 01:17:32,667 AND GOT IN A FIGHT. 1606 01:17:32,734 --> 01:17:36,334 AND SO, THERE'S AARON ON ONE BED IN MY E.R. 1607 01:17:36,400 --> 01:17:39,634 AND JUST A FEW BEDS DOWN IS MATTHEW. 1608 01:17:39,701 --> 01:17:41,934 AND TWO DAYS LATER, 1609 01:17:42,000 --> 01:17:44,934 I FOUND OUT THE CONNECTION. 1610 01:17:45,000 --> 01:17:47,667 HAS THE JURY REACHED A VERDICT ? 1611 01:17:47,734 --> 01:17:50,667 WE HAVE, YOUR HONOR. 1612 01:17:52,234 --> 01:17:53,901 I WAS VERY... 1613 01:17:53,968 --> 01:17:55,767 STRUCK. 1614 01:17:55,834 --> 01:17:57,667 THERE WERE TWO KIDS, 1615 01:17:57,734 --> 01:18:01,300 THEY WERE BOTH MY PATIENTS. 1616 01:18:01,367 --> 01:18:03,400 THEY WERE TWO KIDS. 1617 01:18:03,467 --> 01:18:05,334 I TOOK CARE OF BOTH OF THEM. 1618 01:18:05,400 --> 01:18:08,934 I TOOK CARE OF BOTH THEIR BODIES. 1619 01:18:10,601 --> 01:18:12,667 AND I FELT A GREAT DEAL OF COMPASSION 1620 01:18:12,734 --> 01:18:15,601 FOR BOTH OF THEM. 1621 01:18:16,601 --> 01:18:19,167 WE THE JURY, IMPANELED AND SWORN 1622 01:18:19,234 --> 01:18:21,267 TO TRY THE ABOVE ENTITLED CAUSE, 1623 01:18:21,334 --> 01:18:24,267 AFTER HAVING WELL AND TRULY TRIED THE MATTER, 1624 01:18:24,334 --> 01:18:27,334 UNANIMOUSLY FIND AS FOLLOWS... 1625 01:18:27,400 --> 01:18:30,167 AS TO THE CHARGE OF KIDNAPPING, 1626 01:18:30,234 --> 01:18:34,701 WE FIND THE DEFENDANT, AARON JAMES McKINNEY... 1627 01:18:34,767 --> 01:18:37,167 GUILTY. 1628 01:18:39,200 --> 01:18:41,901 AS TO THE CHARGE OF FELONY MURDER, 1629 01:18:41,968 --> 01:18:45,834 WE FIND THE DEFENDANT, AARON JAMES McKINNEY, 1630 01:18:45,901 --> 01:18:48,167 GUILTY. 1631 01:18:58,133 --> 01:19:00,200 The jury returns to the courthouse today 1632 01:19:00,267 --> 01:19:01,934 to start considering the punishment, 1633 01:19:02,000 --> 01:19:05,734 a phase of the trial that will probably last until next week. 1634 01:19:05,801 --> 01:19:09,267 I AM WORKING WITH McKINNEY, COUNSELING HIM. 1635 01:19:09,334 --> 01:19:13,868 I DON'T THINK HE CAN CONCEPTUALIZE THE GRAVITY 1636 01:19:13,934 --> 01:19:16,234 OF SOMETHING LIKE CAPITAL PUNISHMENT. 1637 01:19:16,300 --> 01:19:19,000 BUT YOU KNOW I'M GOING TO BE PRAYING LIKE THE DICKENS TONIGHT 1638 01:19:19,067 --> 01:19:21,701 THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH THIS NEXT PHASE. 1639 01:19:21,767 --> 01:19:24,334 I DON'T KNOW IF YOU BELIEVE IN THE POWER OF PRAYER, 1640 01:19:24,400 --> 01:19:26,133 BUT WOULD YOU DO THIS FOR ME ? 1641 01:19:26,200 --> 01:19:29,534 WOULD YOU JUST SAY FROM TIME TO TIME, 1642 01:19:29,601 --> 01:19:32,434 "LORD, I LIFT HIM UP TO YOU" ? 1643 01:19:32,500 --> 01:19:34,634 JUST DO THAT FOR ME. 1644 01:19:34,701 --> 01:19:37,901 OF COURSE, FATHER. 1645 01:19:39,067 --> 01:19:40,601 THE SENTENCING PHASE OF McKINNEY'S TRIAL 1646 01:19:40,667 --> 01:19:42,434 WAS TO BEGIN MOMENTARILY. 1647 01:19:42,500 --> 01:19:43,567 HOWEVER... 1648 01:19:43,634 --> 01:19:45,334 now we are hearing that Judy and Dennis Shepard 1649 01:19:45,400 --> 01:19:47,167 have been approached by McKinney's defense team, 1650 01:19:47,234 --> 01:19:49,133 who plead for their client's life. 1651 01:19:49,200 --> 01:19:52,701 We understand Mr. Shepard may approach the court this morning. 1652 01:20:04,934 --> 01:20:07,367 ( clearing throat ) 1653 01:20:13,801 --> 01:20:15,434 MY SON, MATTHEW, 1654 01:20:15,500 --> 01:20:17,934 DID NOT LOOK LIKE A WINNER. 1655 01:20:18,000 --> 01:20:20,834 HE WAS RATHER UNCOORDINATED 1656 01:20:20,901 --> 01:20:25,434 AND WORE BRACES FROM THE AGE OF 13 UNTIL THE DAY HE DIED. 1657 01:20:26,801 --> 01:20:29,767 HOWEVER, IN HIS ALL TOO BRIEF LIFE, 1658 01:20:29,834 --> 01:20:32,000 HE PROVED THAT HE WAS A WINNER. 1659 01:20:32,067 --> 01:20:35,267 ON OCTOBER 6th, 1998, 1660 01:20:35,334 --> 01:20:38,367 MY SON TRIED TO SHOW THE WORLD THAT HE COULD WIN AGAIN. 1661 01:20:38,434 --> 01:20:42,067 ON OCTOBER 12th, 1998, 1662 01:20:42,133 --> 01:20:45,234 MY FIRSTBORN SON 1663 01:20:45,300 --> 01:20:48,601 AND MY HERO, LOST. 1664 01:20:49,701 --> 01:20:51,801 ON OCTOBER 12th, 1998, 1665 01:20:51,868 --> 01:20:56,567 MY FIRSTBORN SON AND MY HERO, DIED. 1666 01:20:59,434 --> 01:21:02,767 50 DAYS BEFORE HIS 22nd BIRTHDAY. 1667 01:21:05,367 --> 01:21:08,100 I KEEP WONDERING THE SAME THING THAT I DID WHEN I FIRST SAW HIM 1668 01:21:08,167 --> 01:21:09,834 IN THE HOSPITAL. 1669 01:21:09,901 --> 01:21:12,434 WHAT WOULD HE HAVE BECOME ? 1670 01:21:12,500 --> 01:21:16,067 HOW COULD HE HAVE CHANGED HIS PIECE OF THE WORLD 1671 01:21:16,133 --> 01:21:18,334 TO MAKE IT BETTER ? 1672 01:21:19,567 --> 01:21:21,534 MATT OFFICIALLY DIED IN A HOSPITAL 1673 01:21:21,601 --> 01:21:23,500 IN FORT COLLINS, COLORADO. 1674 01:21:23,567 --> 01:21:27,434 HE ACTUALLY DIED ON THE OUTSKIRTS OF LARAMIE, 1675 01:21:27,500 --> 01:21:30,868 TIED TO A FENCE. 1676 01:21:32,834 --> 01:21:35,834 YOU, MR. McKINNEY, WITH YOUR FRIEND, 1677 01:21:35,901 --> 01:21:37,267 MR. HENDERSON, 1678 01:21:37,334 --> 01:21:39,534 LEFT HIM THERE BY HIMSELF. 1679 01:21:39,601 --> 01:21:43,267 BUT HE WAS NOT ALONE. 1680 01:21:44,901 --> 01:21:48,200 THERE WERE HIS LIFELONG FRIENDS WITH HIM. 1681 01:21:49,367 --> 01:21:52,033 FRIENDS THAT HE HAD GROWN UP WITH. 1682 01:21:53,467 --> 01:21:56,767 YOU'RE PROBABLY WONDERING WHO THESE FRIENDS WERE. 1683 01:21:58,834 --> 01:22:00,634 FIRST, HE HAD THE BEAUTIFUL NIGHT SKY 1684 01:22:00,701 --> 01:22:02,567 AND THE SAME STARS AND MOON 1685 01:22:02,634 --> 01:22:04,901 WE USED TO SEE THROUGH A TELESCOPE. 1686 01:22:05,734 --> 01:22:10,467 THEN, HE HAD THE DAYLIGHT AND THE SUN TO SHINE ON HIM. 1687 01:22:11,934 --> 01:22:13,868 AND THROUGH IT ALL, 1688 01:22:13,934 --> 01:22:16,500 HE WAS BREATHING IN THE SCENT OF THE PINE TREES 1689 01:22:16,567 --> 01:22:19,000 FROM THE SNOWY RANGE. 1690 01:22:19,067 --> 01:22:22,167 HE HEARD THE WIND. 1691 01:22:23,200 --> 01:22:27,834 THE EVER-PRESENT WYOMING WIND FOR THE LAST TIME. 1692 01:22:29,601 --> 01:22:33,000 HE HAD ONE MORE FRIEND WITH HIM. 1693 01:22:33,067 --> 01:22:35,934 HE HAD GOD. 1694 01:22:38,734 --> 01:22:41,968 AND I FEEL BETTER KNOWING HE WASN'T ALONE. 1695 01:22:44,167 --> 01:22:46,968 MATT'S BEATING, HOSPITALIZATION AND FUNERAL 1696 01:22:47,033 --> 01:22:49,567 FOCUSED WORLDWIDE ATTENTION ON HATE. 1697 01:22:49,634 --> 01:22:53,367 GOOD IS COMING OUT OF EVIL. 1698 01:22:54,500 --> 01:22:57,567 PEOPLE HAVE SAID, "ENOUGH IS ENOUGH." 1699 01:22:59,167 --> 01:23:00,901 I MISS MY SON, 1700 01:23:00,968 --> 01:23:05,033 BUT I'M PROUD TO BE ABLE TO SAY THAT HE WAS MY SON. 1701 01:23:07,033 --> 01:23:11,033 JUDY HAS BEEN QUOTED AS BEING AGAINST THE DEATH PENALTY. 1702 01:23:11,100 --> 01:23:15,734 IT HAS BEEN STATED THAT MATT WAS AGAINST THE DEATH PENALTY. 1703 01:23:15,801 --> 01:23:19,300 BOTH OF THESE STATEMENTS ARE WRONG. 1704 01:23:19,367 --> 01:23:23,467 I TOO BELIEVE IN THE DEATH PENALTY. 1705 01:23:25,267 --> 01:23:27,200 I WOULD LIKE NOTHING BETTER 1706 01:23:27,267 --> 01:23:29,734 THAN TO SEE YOU DIE, MR. McKINNEY. 1707 01:23:39,300 --> 01:23:40,801 HOWEVER, 1708 01:23:40,868 --> 01:23:44,067 THIS IS THE TIME TO BEGIN THE HEALING PROCESS... 1709 01:23:46,400 --> 01:23:50,133 TO SHOW MERCY TO SOMEONE WHO REFUSED TO SHOW ANY MERCY. 1710 01:24:01,500 --> 01:24:02,868 MR. McKINNEY, 1711 01:24:02,934 --> 01:24:05,968 I AM GOING TO GRANT YOU LIFE 1712 01:24:06,033 --> 01:24:11,667 AS HARD AS IT IS TO DO SO, BECAUSE OF MATTHEW. 1713 01:24:12,934 --> 01:24:15,234 EVERY TIME YOU CELEBRATE CHRISTMAS, 1714 01:24:15,300 --> 01:24:18,200 A BIRTHDAY, THE 4th OF JULY, 1715 01:24:18,267 --> 01:24:20,367 REMEMBER THAT MATT ISN'T. 1716 01:24:21,400 --> 01:24:24,400 EVERY TIME YOU WAKE UP IN YOUR PRISON CELL, 1717 01:24:24,467 --> 01:24:26,234 REMEMBER YOU HAD THE OPPORTUNITY 1718 01:24:26,300 --> 01:24:31,133 AND THE ABILITY TO STOP YOUR ACTIONS THAT NIGHT. 1719 01:24:33,334 --> 01:24:35,100 YOU ROBBED ME OF SOMETHING VERY PRECIOUS 1720 01:24:35,167 --> 01:24:38,000 AND I WILL NEVER FORGIVE YOU FOR THAT. 1721 01:24:42,968 --> 01:24:44,968 MR. McKINNEY, 1722 01:24:45,033 --> 01:24:47,500 I GIVE YOU LIFE 1723 01:24:47,567 --> 01:24:50,767 IN THE MEMORY OF SOMEONE 1724 01:24:50,834 --> 01:24:53,434 WHO NO LONGER LIVES. 1725 01:24:55,267 --> 01:24:57,033 MAY YOU HAVE A LONG LIFE 1726 01:24:57,100 --> 01:25:01,400 AND MAY YOU THANK MATTHEW EVERY DAY FOR IT. 1727 01:25:07,200 --> 01:25:09,400 THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 1728 01:25:17,834 --> 01:25:20,000 MR. McKINNEY, YOU WILL BE REMANDED TO THE CUSTODY 1729 01:25:20,067 --> 01:25:21,734 OF THE ALBANY COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT 1730 01:25:21,801 --> 01:25:24,701 PENDING TRANSPORTATION TO THE STATE PENITENTIARY. 1731 01:25:24,767 --> 01:25:26,567 LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, 1732 01:25:26,634 --> 01:25:28,133 THAT CONCLUDES THIS MATTER. 1733 01:25:28,200 --> 01:25:30,067 ( pounding gavel ) 1734 01:25:31,601 --> 01:25:34,701 ( chattering ) 1735 01:25:48,300 --> 01:25:49,234 I HOPE WHEN YOU THINK OF THIS TOWN, 1736 01:25:49,300 --> 01:25:51,400 YOU CAN SEE SOMETHING ELSE THAN JUST A CRIME. 1737 01:25:51,467 --> 01:25:54,667 AND UNDERSTAND WHY WE LOVE IT SO MUCH. 1738 01:25:56,234 --> 01:25:58,367 I THINK I'M JUST REALLY GLAD THAT IT'S OVER. 1739 01:25:58,434 --> 01:25:59,601 I REALLY AM. 1740 01:25:59,667 --> 01:26:01,367 TESTIFYING IN THIS TRIAL 1741 01:26:01,434 --> 01:26:03,200 HAS BEEN ONE OF THE HARDEST THINGS 1742 01:26:03,267 --> 01:26:04,934 I'VE EVER HAD TO DO IN MY ENTIRE LIFE. 1743 01:26:05,000 --> 01:26:07,367 DON'T GET ME WRONG, I LOVE THE STAGE, 1744 01:26:07,434 --> 01:26:09,133 I'M A NATURAL FOR IT, I LOVE IT. 1745 01:26:09,200 --> 01:26:12,300 BUT THE ACTUAL TESTIFYING IS REALLY, REALLY DIFFICULT. 1746 01:26:12,367 --> 01:26:14,200 'CAUSE WHAT YOU HAVE IS YOU HAVE THE LAWYERS 1747 01:26:14,267 --> 01:26:15,701 WHO ARE ASKING YOU QUESTIONS. 1748 01:26:15,767 --> 01:26:17,634 SO, YOU HAVE QUESTIONS THAT ARE COMING AT YOU IN THIS AVENUE 1749 01:26:17,701 --> 01:26:21,000 BUT THEN, YOU HAVE TO FUNNEL THEM OVER TOWARDS THE JURY. 1750 01:26:21,067 --> 01:26:23,234 SO, YOU FUNNEL THEM OVER THERE AND WHAT YOU END UP WITH 1751 01:26:23,300 --> 01:26:25,767 IS BASICALLY, YOU HAVE A FUNNELING SYSTEM. 1752 01:26:25,834 --> 01:26:28,000 RIGHT ? 1753 01:26:31,300 --> 01:26:33,000 AFTER TAKING THE ATZ FOR SIX MONTHS, 1754 01:26:33,067 --> 01:26:34,667 I WAS ABLE TO GET A DNA TEST. 1755 01:26:34,734 --> 01:26:36,801 AND IT WAS... 1756 01:26:36,868 --> 01:26:38,267 ABOUT A WEEK LATER. 1757 01:26:38,334 --> 01:26:42,534 THAT'S WHEN I FOUND OUT THAT I WAS NEGATIVE FOR GOOD. 1758 01:26:42,601 --> 01:26:44,334 OH, WOW, THANK GOD. 1759 01:26:44,400 --> 01:26:45,601 THAT'S GREAT. 1760 01:26:45,667 --> 01:26:48,567 I TELL YOU, WE WERE ALL ON OUR KNEES SAYING "HAIL MARY'S". 1761 01:26:48,634 --> 01:26:50,434 YOU KNOW, YOU'RE JUST SO ELATED. 1762 01:26:50,500 --> 01:26:52,167 WE WERE REALLY HAPPY. 1763 01:26:52,234 --> 01:26:53,801 SO, WHAT'S THE FIRST THING SHE DOES ? 1764 01:26:53,868 --> 01:26:56,033 I STUCK MY TONGUE RIGHT IN MY HUSBAND'S MOUTH. 1765 01:26:56,100 --> 01:26:58,601 WHAT ABOUT YOUR DAUGHTERS ? 1766 01:26:58,667 --> 01:27:00,500 OH, MAN, THE GIRLS, THEY JUST BAWLED. 1767 01:27:00,567 --> 01:27:02,500 THEY WERE JUST SO HAPPY. 1768 01:27:02,567 --> 01:27:04,767 AND THE FORCE. OH, BOY. 1769 01:27:04,834 --> 01:27:06,033 WE WENT OUT AND GOT 1770 01:27:06,100 --> 01:27:07,601 ( together ) SHIT-FACED. 1771 01:27:07,667 --> 01:27:10,667 I JUST KISSED EVERYBODY WHO CAME THROUGH THAT DOOR. 1772 01:27:10,734 --> 01:27:12,200 REGGIE, THEY DON'T NEED TO KNOW THAT. 1773 01:27:12,267 --> 01:27:13,901 YOU KNOW WHAT, IF IT WAS A MALE OR A FEMALE, 1774 01:27:13,968 --> 01:27:15,500 I DIDN'T CARE, I KISSED THEM RIGHT ON THE LIPS. 1775 01:27:15,567 --> 01:27:18,334 WHAT PART OF WHAT I JUST SAID DID YOU NOT UNDERSTAND ? 1776 01:27:18,400 --> 01:27:20,033 MOM, I HAVE ALREADY KISSED THEM. 1777 01:27:20,100 --> 01:27:22,434 ( laughing ) 1778 01:27:31,467 --> 01:27:33,500 IT'S NOT CLEAR TO ME HAVING KNOWN MATTHEW, 1779 01:27:33,567 --> 01:27:37,133 WHAT STORY HE WOULD WANT TOLD ABOUT THIS. 1780 01:27:37,200 --> 01:27:40,567 WE WON'T FULLY UNDERSTAND WHAT HAPPENED HERE 1781 01:27:40,634 --> 01:27:44,467 UNTIL TIME HAS HAD A CHANCE TO FILTER THAT OUT FOR US. 1782 01:27:44,534 --> 01:27:46,234 WHAT HAPPENED HERE, 1783 01:27:46,300 --> 01:27:48,467 THE CULTURE, THE COST OF THIS, 1784 01:27:48,534 --> 01:27:50,601 THE COMPLEX SET OF EVENTS LEADING UP TO IT. 1785 01:27:50,667 --> 01:27:55,133 IT WOULD'VE BEEN LIKE US TRYING TO STOP A TANK. 1786 01:28:01,901 --> 01:28:04,400 CHANGE IS NOT AN EASY THING, 1787 01:28:04,467 --> 01:28:06,367 AND I DON'T THINK PEOPLE WERE UP TO IT HERE. 1788 01:28:06,434 --> 01:28:09,067 THEY GOT WHAT THEY WANTED. 1789 01:28:09,133 --> 01:28:10,934 THOSE TWO BOYS GOT WHAT THEY DESERVE, 1790 01:28:11,000 --> 01:28:13,133 AND WE LOOK GOOD NOW. 1791 01:28:13,200 --> 01:28:16,701 YOU KNOW, IT'S BEEN OVER A YEAR SINCE MATTHEW SHEPARD DIED, 1792 01:28:16,767 --> 01:28:19,968 AND THEY HAVEN'T PASSED SHIT IN WYOMING. 1793 01:28:20,033 --> 01:28:22,601 THEY HAVEN'T PASSED IT AT A STATE LEVEL, 1794 01:28:22,667 --> 01:28:24,467 ANY TOWN, 1795 01:28:24,534 --> 01:28:28,000 ANYBODY ANYWHERE, HAS PASSED ANY KIND OF LAWS. 1796 01:28:28,067 --> 01:28:30,801 ANTI-DISCRIMINATION LAWS 1797 01:28:30,868 --> 01:28:33,100 OR HATE-CRIME LEGISLATION, 1798 01:28:33,167 --> 01:28:34,901 NOBODY HAS PASSED 1799 01:28:34,968 --> 01:28:37,500 ANYTHING ANYWHERE. 1800 01:28:37,567 --> 01:28:41,534 WHAT'S COME OUT OF IT ? 1801 01:28:42,567 --> 01:28:46,968 WHAT'S COME OUT OF IT THAT'S CONCRETE AND LASTING ? 1802 01:28:48,234 --> 01:28:50,300 THE DEAD WILL BE COMMEMORATED 1803 01:28:50,367 --> 01:28:52,767 AND WILL STRUGGLE ON WITH THE LIVING, 1804 01:28:52,834 --> 01:28:57,334 AND WE ARE NOT GOING AWAY. 1805 01:28:58,133 --> 01:29:00,500 WE WON'T DIE SECRET DEATHS ANYMORE. 1806 01:29:00,567 --> 01:29:04,367 THE WORLD ONLY SPINS FORWARD. 1807 01:29:05,801 --> 01:29:10,133 WE WILL BE CITIZENS. 1808 01:29:11,000 --> 01:29:13,467 THE TIME HAS COME. 1809 01:29:23,367 --> 01:29:24,968 BYE, NOW. 1810 01:29:32,634 --> 01:29:34,567 HAVE YOU EVER GONE OUT TO THE FENCE ? 1811 01:29:34,634 --> 01:29:36,467 UH-HUH. 1812 01:29:37,968 --> 01:29:39,968 I DROVE UP TO THE SITE IN MY LIMOUSINE. 1813 01:29:40,033 --> 01:29:41,267 AND... 1814 01:29:41,334 --> 01:29:43,267 SEE, I REMEMBERED SOMETHING MYSELF, 1815 01:29:43,334 --> 01:29:45,200 THE NIGHT HE AND I DROVE AROUND TOGETHER, 1816 01:29:45,267 --> 01:29:47,567 HE SAID, "LARAMIE SPARKLES, DOESN'T IT ?" 1817 01:29:47,634 --> 01:29:50,934 AND WHERE HE WAS IN THAT SPOT UP THERE, 1818 01:29:51,000 --> 01:29:53,667 IF YOU SIT EXACTLY IN THAT SPOT UP THERE, 1819 01:29:53,734 --> 01:29:56,067 LARAMIE SPARKLES FROM THERE. 1820 01:29:56,133 --> 01:29:58,167 WITH THE LOW LYINCLOUDS, IT'S... 1821 01:29:58,234 --> 01:30:01,400 IT'S THE BLUE LIGHTS THAT'S BOUNCING OFF THE CLOUDS 1822 01:30:01,467 --> 01:30:03,067 FROM THE AIRPORT, 1823 01:30:03,133 --> 01:30:07,767 AND IT GOES TST, TST, TST, 1824 01:30:07,834 --> 01:30:09,601 OVER THE WHOLE CITY. 1825 01:30:09,667 --> 01:30:11,434 I MEAN... 1826 01:30:11,500 --> 01:30:15,234 I MEAN, IT BLOWS YOU AWAY. 1827 01:30:16,567 --> 01:30:18,534 AND MATT WAS RIGHT THERE IN THAT SPOT. 1828 01:30:18,601 --> 01:30:21,968 AND I CAN JUST PICTURE IN HIS EYES, 1829 01:30:22,033 --> 01:30:26,167 I CAN PICTURE WHAT HE WAS SEEING. 1830 01:30:27,601 --> 01:30:30,734 AND THE LAST THING THAT HE SAW ON THIS EARTH 1831 01:30:30,801 --> 01:30:35,534 WAS E SPARKLING LIGHTS OF LARAMIE, WYOMING. 1832 01:30:52,934 --> 01:30:56,300 Captions Copyright 2002 HOME BOX OFFICE 1833 01:30:56,367 --> 01:31:00,534 A Division of TIME WARNER ENTERTAINMENT COMPANY, L.P. 1834 01:31:01,267 --> 01:31:05,567 Captioned by HBO COMMUNICATIONS CENTER 128752

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