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- Looking up in the sky,
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and it was three
white lines, vertical.
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There was one that always
stayed away from it.
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- I don't know what I saw.
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- Blip in the sky,
streak of light.
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- Dark, hovering
object above a bridge
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that we were coming back from,
and it almost looked like a-
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- This weird, kind of amorphous,
opalescent kind of thing.
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- An unidentified object,
it was coming in very fast.
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- It was staying perfectly
still and stationary in the sky
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for about four to five minutes,
until it started to move.
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- And it was so distraughtful,
and it was really wicked.
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To this day, I don't
know what it is.
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- Made a hard right turn,
went up like 90 degrees.
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They figured that
it was traveling
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at something like
800 miles an hour.
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- And then they
changed formation.
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At first, it was vertical,
then it went lateral,
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and then they changed to
like a rectangle shape.
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But that one always stayed
away from the others.
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- I started out at
a very young age,
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witnessing anomalous
events, such as UFOs.
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And that's what got
me interested in a
field of ufology.
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I became a researcher
and a speaker.
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Throughout the years, I
have come a cross hundreds
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of people from all walks of
life, from all around the world,
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who also have had similar
experiences, witnessing UFOs.
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And so this
phenomenon is not new.
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It's very old, and
very widespread.
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Yet, this entire subject
has been lacking credibility
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and acceptance from society,
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but also from the establishment.
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And it wasn't until 2017 when
"The New York Times" came out
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with an article featuring
three leaked videos
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from the US Navy that
totally defied explanation,
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that the conversation
began to shift.
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Got it, woo hoo!
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Roger there's
something shooting-
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- We're going against the wind.
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The wind's 120
miles to the west.
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Well, if there's-
- Look at this thing.
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- It's rotating.
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There's a whole fleet of
them, look on
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My gosh!
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- On USS Princeton,
I was responsible
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for classified material,
top secret data recording.
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In November in 2004,
we were doing workups
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in preparation for
our next deployment.
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- I was on the USS Princeton,
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I was the leading
operation specialist,
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and basically we'd
control the radars,
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we'd man the radars,
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we'd fight the ship if
we ever go to combat.
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My primary job was to
identify everything
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that flew in the sky.
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On November 10th,
I started to notice
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some really strange contacts
off the coast of Catalina.
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- During those workups,
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we tracked unknown
aircraft for several days.
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- This is the contacts, we're
at 28,000 feet going South
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about 100 knots, and
I'm thinking to myself,
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"I never seen anything
fly like that."
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And I had 15 and a half
years actual sea time,
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sitting behind that radar.
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At one point it
was raining UFOs.
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But I'd never seen
anything fly like this,
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and all the other ships
are tracking it too.
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Fast Eagle flight
happened to be airborne,
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Commander Fravor, the
first one to launch off
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the Nimitz aircraft carrier.
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These objects fell out.
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These things went straight
back up to 28,000 feet again
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in less than a second,
and then at the very end,
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it was right in front of him.
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Disappeared.
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- They exhibited
flight capabilities
that were well beyond
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anything that I'd
ever seen before.
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So I'm pretty familiar with just
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about the fastest things in
the sky, and these things
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kinda made them look
like they're toys.
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- Because these videos were
taken by military servicemen,
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the Navy and the Pentagon
eventually confirmed
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the veracity of these sightings.
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Senator Reid, Senator Rubio,
and others prompted Congress
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to investigate these events,
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and publish an official
report on these findings.
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Even though multiple credible
cases were investigated,
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the UAP report, "Unidentified
Aerial Phenomena"
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turned out to inconclusive,
which unfortunately,
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did not surprise many of
us in the UFO community.
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- When you don't
know what it is,
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of course nothing can be
conclusively ruled out.
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- Can they come up
with any explanation?
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- Really just a
fraction of evidence
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the government has on UFOs.
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- What does the US
government know about UFOs?
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- Had that bombshell not come
out in "The New York Times",
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and "Politico," and CNN, we
wouldn't be where we are today.
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The Pentagon has not
been forthcoming at all.
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They have been a
huge pain in the ass
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regarding this topic, massively.
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And what's really
needed with this topic,
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real evidence, real data.
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However long it takes,
that's the stuff
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that becomes fool proof.
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- The next morning I get
up, I say, "What the heck?
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I'm gonna write a
very detailed message
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about what happened."
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I went back up to combat
information center, CIC,
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and one of the lead technicians,
he looks at me and says,
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"Senior Chief, the data
isn't on the ship anymore."
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I said, "What are
you talking about?"
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He said, "Somebody
came on board our ship,
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and they took our data.
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In fact, they made us
erase everything down
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in the computer room."
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Even blank tapes
had gotten erased.
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- We had our data
recording for all
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of our equipment
taken off the ship.
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And on top of that
we were ordered
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to erase everything that
was left in the shop.
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- And for them to take
it, it was highly unusual.
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I raised my hand, I said,
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"I think we got a
safety issue here."
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And I would try to
describe what happened,
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and I got laughed at.
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I got ridiculed, there
was jokes posted,
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there was cartoons
posted about me,
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and I got so frustrated
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it ended my career.
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- Some of my shipmates
lost careers, lost wives,
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lost the ability to be
able to see their children.
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These are all the
consequences of these events
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that happened that we were
told to not talk about.
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- And it was really scary,
it was really lonely.
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And at one point I ended up,
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I didn't know what
I was gonna do.
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I'd gone through all this pain
and suffering, if you will.
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- It is unimaginable to
think that a UFO encounter
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could affect these
guys to such a point
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that they would
lose their careers.
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They would lose their
personal and social life.
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Now I feel even more determined
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to help find some answers
about their experience.
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I feel after all these years,
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if the government is not
officially at a point
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where they can
offer real answers
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to these very
widespread sightings,
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well, maybe it is up to us
to look into the subject.
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But from a new
scientific perspective,
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because that has
never been done.
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I decided to take
on this challenge.
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I'm going to find a way
to team up with scientists
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and experts on this, and
see if we can capture
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these objects ourselves,
and offer some answers.
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But first I want
to invite someone
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that I really, really
love, William Shatner.
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I met him on multiple projects,
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because he is the icon
of the sci-fi world.
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And he also has been involved
in the world of ufology,
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and world mysteries
for a long time,
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I think his insight is
going to be fantastic
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to help us bridge the gap
from sci-fi to real science.
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And that'll give us an
additional perspective
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on what this UFO/UAP
phenomenon is really about.
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- What has made mankind is
an insatiable curiosity.
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Insatiable. What is that?
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Nobody knows.
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A phenomena.
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- This time we're
talking about UFOs.
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The fact that the
government is coming up
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with all these videos
and saying it's real.
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- Oh, they're saying it's real?
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- Yes.
- That it's really
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an unidentified flying object.
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- Have you seen the UAP report?
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- It's inconclusive.
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- Exactly. Exactly.
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So we're very frustrated-
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- But what do you want to see?
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- Data. Data.
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I think that there were a
lot of very credible cases.
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Air force pilots,
Navy, military,
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there are so many of
those credible cases
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that you would think by now,
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we have some sort
of investigation
and data reporting-
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- No, no, they had
investigations.
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You would think by now
that they would say,
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"Here's a piece of
something," or, "Here is"-
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- Yes.
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- Right.
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So I had an idea.
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- Which is?
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And I'm sure it was a good one.
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- I thought we need
to go all the way,
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and do something at
a much bigger scale.
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We need to do a
scientific investigation.
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- I think that's marvelous.
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- Those Navy pilots who were
off of the coast of Catalina.
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And this is where they
saw these TICTAC videos.
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And other Navy ships as
well, all in the same area.
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That's kind of
what I'm thinking.
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We put a team of
scientists, experts,
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military folks as well, since
they have the experience,
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and attempt to capture
something in real time.
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- Yes, if you could hone in
electronically and visually.
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On some unidentified
flying object,
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you'd certainly have made
news, that's for sure.
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- The TICTAC
videos, for example,
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there is no other angles
of the same object.
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We don't have have any sort
of radiation detection.
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We don't have any sort of-
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- We don't have a triangulation.
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- We don't have
any triangulation.
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- Although-
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- Yes.
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- The radar picked it up
as well as the cameras
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on the ships if
I'm not mistaken.
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- Yes.
- All you need is a phenomena.
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- It sounds like you
think it's a good idea?
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- Oh, it's a wonderful idea.
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- Great,
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- Well, I can't tell you
how much I'm looking forward
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to hearing, and hopefully
seeing what you've uncovered.
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- Awesome, thank you.
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- That's what we need, the
smoking gun that'll clench it.
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That once and for all
will settle the debate.
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No ifs, ands or buts.
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And in the process, rewrite
all of human history.
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I was ecstatic to find out
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that the Navy personnel from
the USS Nimitz encounter
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had created the UAPx team,
with renowned scientists
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and experts, to research
the UFO phenomenon
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in more depth, and with rigorous
scientific methodologies.
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So, the UAPx team
was the perfect fit
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for this first expedition.
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- Oh, they're here, Gary.
- Hey Gary.
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Nice to meet you.
- Nice to meet you
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in person, Caro.
- Yeah.
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Kevin, nice to meet you.
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This is awesome.
- Nice to meet you.
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- This is Jeremy.
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- Good to meet you
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in the flesh.
- Good to meet you.
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- Hi Jeremy.
- Kevin?
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- Mr. OSIRIS.
- Good to meet you.
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Absolutely. Absolutely.
248
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- These are the guys who
were on the USS Princeton,
249
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everybody's been talking about.
250
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So why should we work
with any anybody else,
251
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but the real folks who lived it?
252
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- The guys who started it.
253
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- Yeah.
254
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And so this moment is
very exciting for me
255
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because if you want
to bring credibility
256
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to this phenomenon, you
have to go all the way.
257
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I mean, it has to be big,
it has to be scientific.
258
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- That's the very reason
why we started our company
259
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is 'cause we didn't
have those answers.
260
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- We agree.
- And it
261
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was great that they came
out, and let everybody know
262
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this was a real thing, but
there needs to be more done.
263
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- Well, the video's one thing,
264
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but we've gotta get more data.
265
00:13:02,126 --> 00:13:04,576
- Personally thinking,
we need to go back
266
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to where you guys were,
Southern California.
267
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What do you suggest?
268
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What do you think we should do?
269
00:13:10,755 --> 00:13:11,963
- Well.
- Well,
270
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we got a couple of locations
that we kinda thought
271
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that we're gonna
do good coverage
272
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of the South part of the island.
273
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- I'd be okay if we
could get a house
274
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on the beach right here,
somewhere, that would be ideal.
275
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And then maybe a place with
a flat roof on Catalina.
276
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- Then our third location
could be the truck.
277
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- So if we do have two
stationary positions,
278
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and then we have
Jeremy in one spot,
279
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we could potentially achieve
some sort of triangulation.
280
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- Yes.
281
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- Which is very, very important.
282
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- Yes.
- Yup.
283
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- In collecting data.
284
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So at the end of the day,
who do we have on the team?
285
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- So, we've got
myself, Gary Voorhis,
286
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we've got Kevin Day,
we've got Jason Turner.
287
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And we were all
on the Princeton together.
288
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We also have Dave
Altman, and Michael Hall,
289
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both experienced
UFO researchers.
290
00:13:58,182 --> 00:14:00,425
Then we have our
scientist, Kevin Knuth,
291
00:14:00,460 --> 00:14:02,220
who is an associate
professor in physics,
292
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and an expert in
exoplanet research.
293
00:14:04,291 --> 00:14:06,224
We also have Matthews Szydagis,
294
00:14:06,259 --> 00:14:07,985
an associate
professor in physics.
295
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His expertise is in dark
matter and radiation detection.
296
00:14:10,988 --> 00:14:12,127
Then we have David Mason,
297
00:14:12,161 --> 00:14:13,922
he's invented several
of the devices
298
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that can detect communication
patterns coming from UAP.
299
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- So we have optical,
we have acoustic.
300
00:14:20,514 --> 00:14:21,239
What else we got?
301
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We got thermal,
302
00:14:22,965 --> 00:14:26,037
we've got, everything
we can throw at it.
303
00:14:26,072 --> 00:14:29,696
- With all this equipment
and all of us over five days,
304
00:14:29,730 --> 00:14:32,009
24/7, if we don't see something,
305
00:14:32,043 --> 00:14:33,907
I'm gonna be very disappointed.
306
00:14:33,942 --> 00:14:36,841
- It would be pretty
disappointing if we
don't see anything,
307
00:14:36,876 --> 00:14:38,118
but that is science though.
308
00:14:38,153 --> 00:14:40,741
- Has this ever
been done before?
309
00:14:40,776 --> 00:14:42,191
- Never.
- And not that I know of.
310
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- I've never even seen
it from the government.
311
00:14:44,021 --> 00:14:45,505
- We're making history.
312
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While the main team
is getting set up
313
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at the Laguna location,
314
00:14:52,546 --> 00:14:55,756
Gary, Kevin, and I
decided to charter a plane
315
00:14:55,791 --> 00:14:58,138
to scout a location
on Catalina Island,
316
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so we can have the best spot
for our potential sightings.
317
00:15:04,075 --> 00:15:06,043
So after all
of the events happened,
318
00:15:06,077 --> 00:15:09,115
and Kevin Day said,
"Hey, let's go out there,
319
00:15:09,149 --> 00:15:11,151
and let's go find
out what they are."
320
00:15:11,186 --> 00:15:15,707
- I wanna make sure it
is the best vantage point
321
00:15:15,742 --> 00:15:17,019
of facing the channel.
322
00:15:17,054 --> 00:15:18,400
- Yeah, facing the channel.
323
00:15:18,434 --> 00:15:19,434
- Yeah, exactly.
324
00:15:21,092 --> 00:15:24,578
- My goal for the expeditions
is to prove they're real,
325
00:15:24,613 --> 00:15:28,375
prove they're findable, and
prove these things are knowable.
326
00:15:28,410 --> 00:15:29,963
We can know what they are.
327
00:15:29,998 --> 00:15:30,998
That's my goal.
328
00:15:32,897 --> 00:15:34,116
I think we're
gonna have like a couple
329
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of really, really good spots.
330
00:15:38,006 --> 00:15:39,431
- Let's see if we
can figure it out,
331
00:15:39,455 --> 00:15:40,605
let's see if we can find them.
332
00:15:40,629 --> 00:15:43,080
Let's go get the
missing data ourselves.
333
00:15:43,114 --> 00:15:45,289
- I wanna be the guy that
makes the identification.
334
00:15:45,323 --> 00:15:46,842
That was my job in the Navy.
335
00:15:48,085 --> 00:15:51,605
- The best vantage point
we found on Catalina Island
336
00:15:51,640 --> 00:15:55,747
is on the rooftop of a
building facing the channel.
337
00:15:55,782 --> 00:15:59,061
We're going to have Dave,
Michael, and a friend of ours,
338
00:15:59,096 --> 00:16:01,684
Chrissy Newton set
up at that location.
339
00:16:02,892 --> 00:16:04,998
They will be in
constant communication
340
00:16:05,033 --> 00:16:08,657
with us on the mainland and
will be able to alert us
341
00:16:08,691 --> 00:16:11,073
as soon as they have a sighting.
342
00:16:11,108 --> 00:16:13,144
- You set up on a
rooftop of a building.
343
00:16:13,179 --> 00:16:14,663
You got a great line of sight,
344
00:16:14,697 --> 00:16:17,148
we've got all of the equipment
put out there already.
345
00:16:17,183 --> 00:16:20,151
We're gonna have your thermal,
your regular binoculars.
346
00:16:20,186 --> 00:16:21,981
Anything you see, you
can be able to document
347
00:16:22,015 --> 00:16:25,156
and correlate with the data
that we have on the other side.
348
00:16:25,191 --> 00:16:26,616
- I got a feeling we're
gonna see something.
349
00:16:26,640 --> 00:16:28,032
I mean, there's been
reports of sightings
350
00:16:28,056 --> 00:16:30,092
out there since early 40's.
351
00:16:30,127 --> 00:16:31,645
- Well, you guys
know what to do.
352
00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:33,209
Get over there, get
everything set up.
353
00:16:33,233 --> 00:16:34,476
- Sounds great.
354
00:16:34,510 --> 00:16:35,270
- We'll take shifts.
355
00:16:35,304 --> 00:16:36,340
- Yep.
- Yep.
356
00:16:36,374 --> 00:16:37,134
- Yep.
- Awesome.
357
00:16:37,168 --> 00:16:38,204
- Let's get 'em done.
358
00:16:45,349 --> 00:16:48,697
- Michael and Dave
are off to Catalina.
359
00:16:48,731 --> 00:16:52,632
We are very excited,
but a bit nervous
360
00:16:52,666 --> 00:16:56,636
because the logistics for
the setup on Catalina,
361
00:16:56,670 --> 00:17:00,019
and the communication
are quite difficult.
362
00:17:00,053 --> 00:17:03,022
There are no trucks or
vehicles on the island
363
00:17:03,056 --> 00:17:05,162
to help us move the equipment.
364
00:17:05,196 --> 00:17:08,510
And even though we do have
a communication protocol
365
00:17:08,544 --> 00:17:10,857
in place, we're
gonna have to rely
366
00:17:10,891 --> 00:17:14,067
on a very spotty
cell-phone service.
367
00:17:14,102 --> 00:17:17,174
But with team effort, we're
keeping a positive outlook,
368
00:17:17,208 --> 00:17:19,038
and hoping for the best.
369
00:17:28,081 --> 00:17:29,093
- Looks like we made it, Mike.
370
00:17:29,117 --> 00:17:30,946
- Ho, ho, ho.
371
00:17:30,980 --> 00:17:32,534
- Let's get these
big guys set up,
372
00:17:32,568 --> 00:17:35,330
and then we'll take a quick
inventory of what we've got.
373
00:17:40,438 --> 00:17:44,028
- Give us a little bit
of a practice session
374
00:17:44,063 --> 00:17:45,892
on these things
moving out there,
375
00:17:47,135 --> 00:17:50,931
and we'll see if we can
keep up with any UAP
376
00:17:50,966 --> 00:17:53,417
that's going thousands
of miles an hour.
377
00:17:53,451 --> 00:17:54,946
We might have to-
- Gonna get whiplash.
378
00:17:54,970 --> 00:17:57,904
- It's gonna be hard to
catch 'em but we'll see.
379
00:18:14,093 --> 00:18:16,336
- When I hear that
you've assembled a team
380
00:18:16,371 --> 00:18:19,960
of top scientists using
state of the art equipment
381
00:18:19,995 --> 00:18:21,790
to settle some of
these questions,
382
00:18:21,824 --> 00:18:25,207
I say to myself, "What
took you so long?"
383
00:18:25,242 --> 00:18:27,589
I mean, the data is out there.
384
00:18:27,623 --> 00:18:29,798
So we have to jump into it.
385
00:18:29,832 --> 00:18:33,595
Wherever it goes, wherever
the data leads us,
386
00:18:33,629 --> 00:18:35,114
that's where we have to go.
387
00:18:35,148 --> 00:18:37,771
So I say it's about time.
388
00:18:43,156 --> 00:18:45,952
- Here we are, the first
day is for equipment set up.
389
00:18:45,986 --> 00:18:50,267
We already had power outages
and software malfunction.
390
00:18:50,301 --> 00:18:54,063
We only have five days to
succeed at our mission.
391
00:18:54,098 --> 00:18:56,273
So the stakes are high.
392
00:18:56,307 --> 00:18:58,309
We have come
prepared, but the odds
393
00:18:58,344 --> 00:19:00,760
of capturing real
anomalous objects
394
00:19:00,794 --> 00:19:03,797
within these five
days are 50/50.
395
00:19:03,832 --> 00:19:06,317
We just don't know
what to expect.
396
00:19:17,225 --> 00:19:18,685
- I have a friend of
mine, Chrissy Newton,
397
00:19:18,709 --> 00:19:19,986
another set of eyes.
398
00:19:20,020 --> 00:19:22,126
There'll be three sets
of eyes instead of two.
399
00:19:24,128 --> 00:19:25,371
- All right, I got something.
400
00:19:26,372 --> 00:19:27,925
I got something, Michael.
401
00:19:27,959 --> 00:19:29,119
- Did you?
- Yep, over here.
402
00:19:30,341 --> 00:19:32,240
Hey, come here, hurry up.
- Huh?
403
00:19:32,274 --> 00:19:33,274
- It's up there.
404
00:19:34,173 --> 00:19:35,174
Oh, it's moving.
405
00:19:35,208 --> 00:19:36,313
It's frigging moving.
406
00:19:37,279 --> 00:19:38,315
Hurry up.
407
00:19:39,385 --> 00:19:40,385
- Moving.
408
00:19:41,387 --> 00:19:43,216
- You see a white ball
above the mountain?
409
00:19:43,251 --> 00:19:44,390
Yep, I do.
410
00:19:46,081 --> 00:19:47,186
- You see it Mike?
411
00:19:47,220 --> 00:19:48,187
- Oh yeah.
412
00:19:48,221 --> 00:19:49,681
- Oh, I see it moving now.
- Is it moving?
413
00:19:49,705 --> 00:19:50,982
- Yeah, it's moving, oh.
414
00:19:52,812 --> 00:19:54,020
We saw a few things.
415
00:19:54,054 --> 00:19:55,987
The first thing that
we saw when I walked in
416
00:19:56,022 --> 00:19:58,542
was a UFO that was, well,
we think it was a UFO,
417
00:19:58,576 --> 00:19:59,957
we're not 100% sure.
418
00:19:59,991 --> 00:20:02,201
We did see some
craft of some sort
419
00:20:02,235 --> 00:20:04,375
that was moving across the sky.
420
00:20:04,410 --> 00:20:06,135
- Tonight was good.
421
00:20:06,170 --> 00:20:09,277
I mean, I guess having an
extra set of eyes did help.
422
00:20:09,311 --> 00:20:12,832
We saw a couple of
strange lights in the
skies, as they say,
423
00:20:12,866 --> 00:20:14,178
when we first got here,
424
00:20:14,213 --> 00:20:16,284
and we saw a few more
about an hour later.
425
00:20:16,318 --> 00:20:17,768
It's kinda getting cloudy,
426
00:20:17,802 --> 00:20:19,401
so we figure we'll
pack it in for tonight
427
00:20:19,425 --> 00:20:21,703
and make it back
out tomorrow night.
428
00:20:23,187 --> 00:20:25,534
- When a team member
spots an anomalous object,
429
00:20:25,569 --> 00:20:29,711
the protocol is to immediately
contact the rest of the team
430
00:20:29,745 --> 00:20:32,265
to see if they are
able to capture
431
00:20:32,300 --> 00:20:34,819
the same object from
different angles.
432
00:20:34,854 --> 00:20:37,305
And they also have to
record what they capture,
433
00:20:37,339 --> 00:20:40,066
and send the recording
to our scientists.
434
00:20:40,100 --> 00:20:43,311
Well, the cell communication
failed on that day.
435
00:20:43,345 --> 00:20:47,349
But the recordings were sent
to the scientists for analysis.
436
00:20:47,384 --> 00:20:49,420
This is our first capture.
437
00:20:49,455 --> 00:20:53,217
We can't get too excited
yet, but being the first day,
438
00:20:53,252 --> 00:20:55,357
I guess this is a good sign.
439
00:21:12,547 --> 00:21:13,306
- Good morning gentlemen.
440
00:21:13,341 --> 00:21:14,273
- Good morning.
441
00:21:14,307 --> 00:21:16,171
- So we got everything out,
442
00:21:16,205 --> 00:21:17,414
We got half our equipment up,
443
00:21:17,448 --> 00:21:19,381
did you get the radiation
detector running?
444
00:21:19,416 --> 00:21:21,763
- Yes I did, I got it running.
445
00:21:21,797 --> 00:21:23,282
- How is the UFODAP?
446
00:21:23,316 --> 00:21:25,387
- UFODAP got a new
software pushed out to me,
447
00:21:25,422 --> 00:21:27,596
I'll get it installed
and running today.
448
00:21:27,631 --> 00:21:29,529
- Roger that, how's
the cosmic watch?
449
00:21:29,564 --> 00:21:31,876
- It's all patched
up and ready to go.
450
00:21:31,911 --> 00:21:33,292
- All right, roger that.
451
00:21:33,326 --> 00:21:35,052
Everything going good.
452
00:21:35,086 --> 00:21:36,364
Jason, anything to report?
453
00:21:36,398 --> 00:21:38,169
- No, I think we're all
good, looks good to go.
454
00:21:38,193 --> 00:21:38,952
- All right.
455
00:21:38,987 --> 00:21:40,229
Well, let's work hard,
456
00:21:40,264 --> 00:21:41,759
let's get everything
up and running by noon.
457
00:21:41,783 --> 00:21:43,647
We need to get as
much possible time,
458
00:21:43,681 --> 00:21:44,865
data recording while we're here.
459
00:21:44,889 --> 00:21:48,168
This is our opportunity,
let's get it done.
460
00:21:48,203 --> 00:21:49,825
- Excellent, let's do it.
- All right.
461
00:21:52,759 --> 00:21:55,003
- Half of our equipment
is experimental,
462
00:21:55,037 --> 00:21:59,456
the other half is
well, some of it's old,
463
00:21:59,490 --> 00:22:01,906
and some of it's not and
some of it's cutting edge.
464
00:22:01,941 --> 00:22:04,184
So it's just a matter of,
465
00:22:04,219 --> 00:22:07,049
hopefully it'll all work.
466
00:22:13,504 --> 00:22:14,988
Where should we put this?
467
00:22:15,023 --> 00:22:16,852
- Well guys, I think
that the primary place
468
00:22:16,887 --> 00:22:18,174
is gonna be right
here in the corner
469
00:22:18,198 --> 00:22:19,510
about where I'm standing.
470
00:22:19,545 --> 00:22:20,960
- All right, we've got...
471
00:22:20,994 --> 00:22:24,964
- We've got a pretty perfect
view of Catalina from here.
472
00:22:24,998 --> 00:22:27,415
We've got unrestricted
airspace over top of us.
473
00:22:29,555 --> 00:22:34,180
So you guys, this is
actually the little brother
474
00:22:34,214 --> 00:22:35,871
of what I've got in the OSIRIS.
475
00:22:37,252 --> 00:22:41,014
We've got the magnetometers,
we've got the GPS,
476
00:22:41,049 --> 00:22:43,016
we've got wireless connectivity,
477
00:22:43,051 --> 00:22:46,641
we've got all the barometric
pressure, weather indicators,
478
00:22:46,675 --> 00:22:50,334
ADSB, we can track known
aircraft with this.
479
00:22:50,369 --> 00:22:52,543
And the best part about
this is, I can see this,
480
00:22:52,578 --> 00:22:54,511
I can control this
from the OSIRIS.
481
00:22:54,545 --> 00:22:56,996
So if this thing's
putting out any signals,
482
00:22:57,030 --> 00:22:58,030
we're gonna get it?
483
00:23:00,033 --> 00:23:02,484
- One of my friends,
Travis Taylor,
484
00:23:02,519 --> 00:23:04,555
who is an astrophysicist,
485
00:23:04,590 --> 00:23:08,421
has been involved in studying
anomalous events and UAPs
486
00:23:08,456 --> 00:23:12,045
from a scientific
perspective for a long time.
487
00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:14,772
So I thought I would invite
him to check out our setup,
488
00:23:14,807 --> 00:23:18,051
and get his take on some
of the new technology
489
00:23:18,086 --> 00:23:20,606
and equipment we brought along.
490
00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:21,607
- I'm really optimistic.
491
00:23:21,641 --> 00:23:23,402
This is great for the first day.
492
00:23:23,436 --> 00:23:24,517
- And we're gonna
have to go through
493
00:23:24,541 --> 00:23:26,405
this frame by frame.
- Hey guys.
494
00:23:26,439 --> 00:23:27,578
- Hey.
- Look who's here.
495
00:23:27,613 --> 00:23:28,935
- Hey, hey, Travis.
- Hey Travis.
496
00:23:28,959 --> 00:23:30,201
It's been a long time.
497
00:23:30,236 --> 00:23:31,696
Two years, I think
since the conference.
498
00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:33,412
- You guys know each other?
499
00:23:33,446 --> 00:23:34,516
- Yeah.
- Yeah, yeah.
500
00:23:34,551 --> 00:23:35,552
- Oh okay.
501
00:23:35,586 --> 00:23:37,139
This is David Mason.
502
00:23:37,174 --> 00:23:40,246
He's the brains behind
all the inventions,
503
00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:43,111
but we have two major
brains here as well.
504
00:23:43,145 --> 00:23:44,699
Wait till you see
what's upstairs,
505
00:23:44,733 --> 00:23:46,942
it's crazy stuff.
- Wow.
506
00:23:46,977 --> 00:23:48,875
- Would you like
to give him a tour?
507
00:23:48,910 --> 00:23:50,429
- Absolutely.
- Awesome.
508
00:23:50,463 --> 00:23:51,958
- Well, I'd love to see it.
- All right, perfect.
509
00:23:51,982 --> 00:23:55,364
- I'm really excited to
see the instrumentation,
510
00:23:55,399 --> 00:23:58,298
the planning that these guys
have put into this experiment.
511
00:23:58,333 --> 00:24:01,578
It's gonna change the
culture in the world.
512
00:24:01,612 --> 00:24:03,038
Scientists are gonna
have to start taking
513
00:24:03,062 --> 00:24:04,822
this more seriously
if we're gonna get
514
00:24:04,857 --> 00:24:06,479
to the bottom of the phenomenon.
515
00:24:06,514 --> 00:24:09,482
So I hear some
chirps and clicks.
516
00:24:09,517 --> 00:24:11,450
- The chirps are
gamma radiation,
517
00:24:11,484 --> 00:24:12,703
which are higher
energy particles
518
00:24:12,727 --> 00:24:15,488
and then the clicking
is the beta radiation.
519
00:24:15,523 --> 00:24:17,525
- Yeah.
- Which are softer energy.
520
00:24:17,559 --> 00:24:19,295
- What part of the spectrum
are you able to look at?
521
00:24:19,319 --> 00:24:22,219
- From about 10 megahertz
up to about two gigahertz.
522
00:24:22,253 --> 00:24:25,153
- So you can see all the radio
stations and TV stations,
523
00:24:25,187 --> 00:24:27,234
and ham bands, and everything
that everybody would use.
524
00:24:27,258 --> 00:24:29,537
So if something's there
that shouldn't be there,
525
00:24:29,571 --> 00:24:30,330
then you'll see it?
526
00:24:30,365 --> 00:24:31,642
- Absolutely.
527
00:24:31,677 --> 00:24:32,723
- So what else you got here?
528
00:24:32,747 --> 00:24:34,749
- We've got eight FLIR
thermal cameras running.
529
00:24:34,783 --> 00:24:35,888
Oh wow.
530
00:24:35,922 --> 00:24:37,486
And so you can see pretty
much the whole sky,
531
00:24:37,510 --> 00:24:38,660
in FLIR if you want to at night.
532
00:24:38,684 --> 00:24:39,892
Absolutely.
533
00:24:39,926 --> 00:24:41,594
- Normally, UAP
researchers have one FLIR
534
00:24:41,618 --> 00:24:43,792
looking like that
way or that way.
535
00:24:43,827 --> 00:24:46,450
Now you can look
all over, right?
536
00:24:46,485 --> 00:24:49,246
- Many of the unknown
objects I have recorded
537
00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:52,525
often register temperatures
minus 20 Fahrenheit.
538
00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:55,563
I've even had some down
to minus 80 Fahrenheit,
539
00:24:55,597 --> 00:24:57,841
which is just
extraordinarily cold.
540
00:24:57,875 --> 00:25:01,638
Exhibit no exhaust, and
no explanation for it.
541
00:25:03,329 --> 00:25:04,548
So what's this thing?
542
00:25:04,572 --> 00:25:06,677
This is a
light wave transmitter.
543
00:25:06,712 --> 00:25:10,578
- So, it's connected to a
laser or something over here?
544
00:25:10,612 --> 00:25:13,304
- It's connected to a light
wave transmitter assembly.
545
00:25:13,339 --> 00:25:15,375
There seems to be
an oddity about them
546
00:25:15,410 --> 00:25:18,206
because the people
report that they pulsate.
547
00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:19,966
And my theory is
that there must be
548
00:25:20,001 --> 00:25:21,554
some sort of
information or data.
549
00:25:21,589 --> 00:25:24,868
- So what if a UAP is
off in the distance,
550
00:25:24,902 --> 00:25:26,594
and it's modulating
its brightness,
551
00:25:26,628 --> 00:25:27,940
changing its brightness.
552
00:25:27,974 --> 00:25:30,563
With information pattern,
they're communicating with us,
553
00:25:30,598 --> 00:25:31,530
right?
- That's the theory I have.
554
00:25:31,564 --> 00:25:33,186
- And when you
convert that to sound,
555
00:25:33,221 --> 00:25:36,604
our brains and our ears and
various computer algorithms
556
00:25:36,638 --> 00:25:38,191
could find a pattern in that.
557
00:25:38,226 --> 00:25:39,538
- That's correct.
558
00:25:39,572 --> 00:25:41,505
We can also take that
sound that we receive,
559
00:25:41,540 --> 00:25:43,034
and put it right back
on the transmitter-
560
00:25:43,058 --> 00:25:44,208
- And send it right back to it.
561
00:25:44,232 --> 00:25:45,613
- Right back to 'em.
562
00:25:45,647 --> 00:25:47,073
So if they're sending out
data we don't understand,
563
00:25:47,097 --> 00:25:48,719
we can say, "Here you go."
564
00:25:48,754 --> 00:25:50,386
- Well see, and that's
the first protocol
565
00:25:50,410 --> 00:25:53,310
in any communication is
you say, hello world.
566
00:25:53,344 --> 00:25:54,691
If you hear hello world,
567
00:25:54,725 --> 00:25:56,555
you say hello world
right back to them.
568
00:25:56,589 --> 00:25:58,695
So, what's really
cool about this is
569
00:25:58,729 --> 00:26:03,596
you've got a capability here
to maybe detect communications,
570
00:26:03,631 --> 00:26:06,081
and rebroadcast
those communications
571
00:26:06,116 --> 00:26:09,844
in both electromagnetic, or
radio station, microwave,
572
00:26:09,878 --> 00:26:14,883
all that, optical, ultraviolet,
visible and infrared light,
573
00:26:15,781 --> 00:26:17,368
as well as temperature.
574
00:26:17,403 --> 00:26:18,680
That gives you a broad range
575
00:26:18,715 --> 00:26:20,958
of where potential
communications might be.
576
00:26:20,993 --> 00:26:23,858
We have no idea how the
UAPs might be communicating.
577
00:26:23,892 --> 00:26:25,238
- That's right.
578
00:26:25,273 --> 00:26:26,757
- I'm really impressed.
579
00:26:26,792 --> 00:26:29,311
This is exciting, and I
can't wait to see it working,
580
00:26:29,346 --> 00:26:32,073
and hopefully we see
a UAP and talk to it.
581
00:26:32,107 --> 00:26:32,867
- I'd like to do that.
582
00:26:32,901 --> 00:26:34,454
- I would too.
583
00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:41,047
- We wanna use
really high tech gear
584
00:26:41,082 --> 00:26:42,946
to collect some
techno signatures.
585
00:26:42,980 --> 00:26:45,673
We're hoping to be able
to use that technology,
586
00:26:45,707 --> 00:26:48,641
if we do find them to actually
handshake these things,
587
00:26:48,676 --> 00:26:50,091
or maybe even talk to 'em.
588
00:26:54,164 --> 00:26:57,063
- I gotta tell you guys,
after having a tour of
589
00:26:57,098 --> 00:26:58,765
what you've got here,
I'm really impressed.
590
00:26:58,789 --> 00:27:01,309
You're covering
the phenomenologies
591
00:27:01,343 --> 00:27:03,311
across the spectrum of physics.
592
00:27:03,345 --> 00:27:06,210
I've never seen anything
as singularly focused
593
00:27:06,245 --> 00:27:08,730
as this effort for one
particular type of phenomena.
594
00:27:08,765 --> 00:27:10,283
- So here's another
one of these,
595
00:27:10,318 --> 00:27:11,709
can't take credit for this,
but this is a designed
596
00:27:11,733 --> 00:27:14,667
by my friends and
colleagues at MIT.
597
00:27:14,702 --> 00:27:16,738
This is just a general
radiation detector
598
00:27:16,773 --> 00:27:19,741
to look for anything
that's anomalous
599
00:27:19,776 --> 00:27:23,434
above a normal background
reading in a given location.
600
00:27:57,745 --> 00:27:58,918
- I got another one.
- Nice.
601
00:27:58,953 --> 00:28:00,540
- Look Mike, Mike it's...
602
00:28:00,575 --> 00:28:01,852
Oh my God!
603
00:28:01,887 --> 00:28:02,888
- Okay.
604
00:28:02,922 --> 00:28:05,235
- Look towards,
it's right there.
605
00:28:06,443 --> 00:28:08,652
I'm not taking off
of it this time.
606
00:28:08,687 --> 00:28:10,205
You see it?
- Oh man, that's big.
607
00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:11,931
Yeah, that's not a plane.
608
00:28:13,864 --> 00:28:16,729
And it just showed
up out of nowhere.
609
00:28:16,764 --> 00:28:18,673
Okay, let's see
if we can get this on tape.
610
00:28:18,697 --> 00:28:20,008
Yep.
611
00:28:27,740 --> 00:28:29,155
- I got it.
- Yep, you got it?
612
00:28:30,639 --> 00:28:33,056
I wanna see it until it's gone,
I wanna see how it travels.
613
00:28:33,090 --> 00:28:35,610
- See how it leaves.
- Yep, that's what I want.
614
00:28:40,753 --> 00:28:43,756
It's not a star, it
wasn't there before.
615
00:28:45,862 --> 00:28:47,967
And that would be a
really bright star.
616
00:28:48,002 --> 00:28:50,798
There's no way that's a
star, that was not there.
617
00:28:50,832 --> 00:28:52,800
It's pretty
low in the horizon too.
618
00:28:52,834 --> 00:28:53,835
Yeah.
619
00:28:59,910 --> 00:29:01,740
- Hey Michael, go ahead.
620
00:29:01,774 --> 00:29:04,777
- Hey, we just saw
something quite anomalous,
621
00:29:04,812 --> 00:29:08,022
and Dave and I
both got it on tape
622
00:29:08,056 --> 00:29:10,956
from our night
vision photography.
623
00:29:10,990 --> 00:29:13,682
Different angles, same object.
624
00:29:13,717 --> 00:29:15,857
- All right, I need to
know bearing, elevation,
625
00:29:15,892 --> 00:29:17,548
which way is it going?
626
00:29:17,583 --> 00:29:20,793
- 300 degrees Northwest is
where it finally appeared
627
00:29:20,828 --> 00:29:25,798
in front of us, to about
29 degrees Northeast,
628
00:29:27,006 --> 00:29:30,803
and disappeared in the
clouds towards the mainland
629
00:29:30,838 --> 00:29:32,149
where you guys are.
630
00:29:32,184 --> 00:29:33,817
- All right, Michael,
I'm looking on ADSB
631
00:29:33,841 --> 00:29:37,051
and M-Lab right now, we've got
no aircraft in the vicinity
632
00:29:37,085 --> 00:29:38,397
of the island right now.
633
00:29:38,431 --> 00:29:40,468
We've got a couple
coming up the coast,
634
00:29:40,502 --> 00:29:43,574
and we've got one heading
South towards the island,
635
00:29:43,609 --> 00:29:46,957
but there is nothing
that has either tracked,
636
00:29:46,992 --> 00:29:48,648
or is tracking in
the directionality
637
00:29:48,683 --> 00:29:49,995
that you were talking about.
638
00:29:50,029 --> 00:29:53,515
- All right, Jason look 30
degrees towards the island.
639
00:29:53,550 --> 00:29:56,829
So gimme a description of it,
like what did it look like?
640
00:29:56,864 --> 00:30:00,557
- It was just a solid
white spherical object.
641
00:30:00,591 --> 00:30:02,939
- Put your hands in front
of those two cameras for me.
642
00:30:04,526 --> 00:30:07,115
All right, all right, mark
it on those two cameras
643
00:30:07,150 --> 00:30:11,292
for two to three minutes ago,
so we can check the recording.
644
00:30:11,326 --> 00:30:16,193
We got a object
on two different cameras.
645
00:30:18,057 --> 00:30:19,057
- Be right there.
646
00:30:21,785 --> 00:30:24,995
All right, so this is happening.
647
00:30:25,030 --> 00:30:28,343
We just had a triple gamma
repeating frequency just now.
648
00:30:29,275 --> 00:30:30,000
- Really?
649
00:30:30,035 --> 00:30:31,035
- Yep.
650
00:30:32,175 --> 00:30:33,452
Where's it Matt?
651
00:30:33,486 --> 00:30:35,016
- I'm gonna go look
with the night vision
652
00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:37,042
because we need to be
watching for these things.
653
00:30:37,076 --> 00:30:38,491
- Yeah, we need
to be in the sky.
654
00:30:38,526 --> 00:30:39,423
- And keep your eyes peeled,
655
00:30:39,458 --> 00:30:43,634
we're getting a lot
of triple spikes on-
656
00:30:43,669 --> 00:30:45,257
- On gamma.
- On gamma.
657
00:30:45,291 --> 00:30:48,881
I'm seeing
a blinking white light.
658
00:30:48,916 --> 00:30:50,676
- Hey, Jeremy?
659
00:30:50,710 --> 00:30:53,921
Jeremy, I think it's time to
get a third vantage point.
660
00:30:53,955 --> 00:30:55,060
We're gonna take off.
661
00:30:55,094 --> 00:30:56,544
- All right, guys.
662
00:30:56,578 --> 00:30:59,892
Right out by Avalon,
just left of Avalon,
663
00:31:01,031 --> 00:31:03,551
there was a bright
flash, a couple flashes.
664
00:31:03,585 --> 00:31:04,552
We got certain 737 MAX
665
00:31:04,586 --> 00:31:06,416
coming in towards us.
666
00:31:06,450 --> 00:31:10,696
- No, I saw the plane up, it's
about 45 degrees altitude,
667
00:31:10,730 --> 00:31:14,010
but this was level with Avalon.
668
00:31:14,044 --> 00:31:15,874
- Oh, it's on the horizon?
- On the horizon.
669
00:31:15,908 --> 00:31:16,989
Really bright flash.
- Yeah, we got one coming.
670
00:31:17,013 --> 00:31:19,532
- I'm coming.
- Straight across their path.
671
00:31:19,567 --> 00:31:21,027
- Yeah, you're seeing
this on the horizon.
672
00:31:21,051 --> 00:31:22,397
- It would be on our horizon.
673
00:31:22,432 --> 00:31:23,719
- Would you say add Avalon?
- Right here.
674
00:31:23,743 --> 00:31:25,918
- Yeah, it was just
to the left of Avalon.
675
00:31:27,230 --> 00:31:30,026
And it was like three really
bright flashes several times.
676
00:31:30,060 --> 00:31:31,165
- All right, Jim.
677
00:31:31,199 --> 00:31:32,199
- Yeah.
- Let's roll.
678
00:31:40,105 --> 00:31:41,140
- Hey Matthew.
679
00:31:41,175 --> 00:31:42,590
- Hey, what's going on up here?
680
00:31:42,624 --> 00:31:44,523
I've been getting spikes of-
681
00:31:44,557 --> 00:31:46,087
- This is an
increase in radiation.
682
00:31:46,111 --> 00:31:48,009
- And it's been
increasingly gaining,
683
00:31:48,044 --> 00:31:50,701
Sometimes the amplitudes
were plateauing out
684
00:31:50,736 --> 00:31:52,531
where it couldn't go anymore.
685
00:31:53,842 --> 00:31:56,224
- Like literally in the
last five, 10 minutes,
686
00:31:56,259 --> 00:31:58,054
we're getting like three bursts?
687
00:31:58,088 --> 00:31:59,583
- But to get anything
from miles away,
688
00:31:59,607 --> 00:32:02,679
that means it must be an
incredibly high flux source.
689
00:32:02,713 --> 00:32:03,956
Just like a light bulb,
690
00:32:03,991 --> 00:32:05,692
everything spreads out
in three dimensions.
691
00:32:05,716 --> 00:32:09,306
In order to get a reading
of anything from an object
692
00:32:09,341 --> 00:32:11,481
that's really far
away, that means it has
693
00:32:11,515 --> 00:32:13,690
to be an incredibly
intense source.
694
00:32:13,724 --> 00:32:15,012
- Wow.
- Of whatever it's producing.
695
00:32:15,036 --> 00:32:17,728
But this is more interesting
if we can correlate this
696
00:32:17,763 --> 00:32:19,385
as a spike being
at the same time
697
00:32:19,420 --> 00:32:21,008
as the visual observations.
698
00:32:21,042 --> 00:32:22,009
- I'm so excited.
699
00:32:22,043 --> 00:32:23,365
- I'm very excited, but
we need to make sure
700
00:32:23,389 --> 00:32:26,979
it's not airplane, or
satellite, although,
701
00:32:27,014 --> 00:32:27,946
that's what's so great
702
00:32:27,980 --> 00:32:29,540
about our set up
that makes it unique.
703
00:32:29,568 --> 00:32:32,088
Because as far as I know,
there's no such thing
704
00:32:32,122 --> 00:32:35,263
as a radioactive bird or plane.
705
00:32:35,298 --> 00:32:38,680
So that kind of starts
to help rule out
706
00:32:38,715 --> 00:32:40,959
mundane explanations like that.
707
00:33:26,211 --> 00:33:29,110
- Yeah, dude, there's nobody
at, you see where it's going?
708
00:33:30,077 --> 00:33:31,112
- All right.
709
00:33:33,425 --> 00:33:34,598
- There's ain't nobody
710
00:33:34,633 --> 00:33:37,670
coming out here.
- We'll be done with it.
711
00:33:40,225 --> 00:33:44,056
Power on. Rewind.
712
00:33:44,091 --> 00:33:49,130
All right, she's running.
713
00:33:56,172 --> 00:33:58,726
- All right, we're
operational right now, so.
714
00:33:59,968 --> 00:34:01,325
- All right, they got
the UFODAP operational
715
00:34:01,349 --> 00:34:02,902
over where they're at.
716
00:34:02,937 --> 00:34:06,078
They're basically somewhere
about five miles away.
717
00:34:06,113 --> 00:34:07,079
- Can you see the laser?
718
00:34:07,114 --> 00:34:09,116
- Around the 10 miles figure?
719
00:34:09,150 --> 00:34:14,155
- Yeah, I mean, look, these
other traffic heading that way.
720
00:34:15,018 --> 00:34:15,777
It's all coming this way.
721
00:34:15,812 --> 00:34:17,089
- Yeah.
722
00:34:17,124 --> 00:34:18,135
We're getting
triple bursts here.
723
00:34:18,159 --> 00:34:18,918
Yeah-
724
00:34:18,953 --> 00:34:19,954
- Oh yeah,
725
00:34:19,988 --> 00:34:21,207
we gotta another one.
- We've got another triple.
726
00:34:21,231 --> 00:34:22,232
Awesome.
727
00:34:22,267 --> 00:34:23,554
- We got a lot of triples
coming through guys,
728
00:34:23,578 --> 00:34:24,578
keep an eye out.
729
00:34:26,926 --> 00:34:31,172
- We saw some anomalous objects
that are not satellites,
730
00:34:31,207 --> 00:34:33,105
that are not drones.
731
00:34:33,140 --> 00:34:36,522
The fact that these things
were solid in color,
732
00:34:36,557 --> 00:34:40,423
round to ovoid shape, moving
in an anomalous pattern,
733
00:34:40,457 --> 00:34:42,908
no sound, that was incredible.
734
00:34:46,463 --> 00:34:48,086
You see it?
735
00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:50,160
- It didn't activate the
camera at all, it just...
736
00:34:52,124 --> 00:34:53,436
That was bright as hell!
737
00:34:53,470 --> 00:34:55,576
- Yeah, it was bright, bro.
738
00:34:55,610 --> 00:34:57,785
It went right across the
screen, like right here.
739
00:34:57,819 --> 00:34:58,958
- Yep.
- Like that and-
740
00:34:58,993 --> 00:35:01,133
- Did you see it on the...
741
00:35:01,168 --> 00:35:02,134
- No, it never showed.
742
00:35:02,169 --> 00:35:03,342
Okay, that's the weird part.
743
00:35:03,377 --> 00:35:06,345
It never showed on the Fisheye.
744
00:35:06,380 --> 00:35:08,589
So the Fisheye never
triggered the PTZ.
745
00:35:08,623 --> 00:35:10,660
I only saw it on the PTZ camera.
746
00:35:13,973 --> 00:35:16,262
- Just trying to check in, see
what you guys are going on.
747
00:35:16,286 --> 00:35:19,082
- All right, so we got some
weirdness happening here.
748
00:35:19,117 --> 00:35:20,611
- Hey, what did you get?
- We saw an object,
749
00:35:20,635 --> 00:35:23,466
only on the PTZ camera.
750
00:35:23,500 --> 00:35:26,779
It did not show
up on the Fisheye.
751
00:35:26,814 --> 00:35:30,266
And I've never seen where
I've got two cameras
752
00:35:30,300 --> 00:35:31,991
within two feet of each other,
753
00:35:32,026 --> 00:35:34,649
one can see the object
and the other one cannot.
754
00:35:34,684 --> 00:35:38,826
So it's literally an anomalous
thing where one camera
755
00:35:38,860 --> 00:35:41,898
is seeing a cloud
and the object,
756
00:35:41,932 --> 00:35:45,143
when the other camera is
seeing just the cloud,
757
00:35:45,177 --> 00:35:47,973
but I can't see the
object where it should be.
758
00:35:48,007 --> 00:35:50,009
It's just not there.
759
00:35:50,044 --> 00:35:52,805
It's the weirdest
thing I've ever seen.
760
00:36:01,814 --> 00:36:02,677
- It's fading-
- It's gone.
761
00:36:02,712 --> 00:36:03,437
It's gone.
762
00:36:03,471 --> 00:36:04,471
- It's freaking gone.
763
00:36:05,473 --> 00:36:06,716
It's just gone.
764
00:36:06,750 --> 00:36:08,821
- It disappeared, man.
- Yeah, disappeared.
765
00:36:08,856 --> 00:36:10,133
- Holy Macro!
766
00:36:10,168 --> 00:36:11,317
- Did you get that on
video disappearing?
767
00:36:11,341 --> 00:36:12,066
- Yes I did.
768
00:36:12,100 --> 00:36:13,205
- Wow.
769
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:25,286
- Hey David.
770
00:36:25,321 --> 00:36:26,322
- Yeah.
771
00:36:26,356 --> 00:36:31,154
- I was looking over the
cosmic watch records,
772
00:36:31,189 --> 00:36:34,364
and I found a couple
of high rate events
773
00:36:34,399 --> 00:36:36,366
and a high energy event.
774
00:36:36,401 --> 00:36:40,750
And that was between
6:07 and 6:13 P.M.
775
00:36:42,061 --> 00:36:44,029
Do you have anything on
the FLIR at that time?
776
00:36:44,063 --> 00:36:46,134
- Yeah, we have an
anomalous object,
777
00:36:46,169 --> 00:36:48,482
and this thing is
like an elongated,
778
00:36:48,516 --> 00:36:51,278
I don't know what to call it
'cause it's not an aircraft,
779
00:36:51,312 --> 00:36:54,867
it's not a bird, it's not
a bug, it doesn't fit all
780
00:36:54,902 --> 00:36:57,525
of the prosaic objects
that we are aware of.
781
00:36:57,560 --> 00:36:59,251
And you notice that it's moving
782
00:36:59,286 --> 00:37:01,667
where it's contradictory
to its trajectory.
783
00:37:01,702 --> 00:37:04,705
So it's like it's moving
sideways against the wind,
784
00:37:04,739 --> 00:37:06,879
if it were an aerial object.
785
00:37:06,914 --> 00:37:10,987
- This looks pretty similar to
the Nimitz Tic Tac incident.
786
00:37:11,021 --> 00:37:12,920
- It does, it does
look like that.
787
00:37:14,370 --> 00:37:18,236
Got it, woo hoo!
788
00:37:18,270 --> 00:37:19,237
We're going against the wind.
789
00:37:19,271 --> 00:37:21,100
The wind's 120
miles to the West.
790
00:37:21,135 --> 00:37:25,346
- And there was a 32 MeV event.
791
00:37:25,381 --> 00:37:28,591
I mean, within the time
synchronization of certainty.
792
00:37:28,625 --> 00:37:30,386
- And Matthew, I've
got some else here.
793
00:37:30,420 --> 00:37:35,183
It is an object,
appears suddenly in
the camera, and then-
794
00:37:35,218 --> 00:37:36,115
- Well, what was that?
795
00:37:36,150 --> 00:37:37,150
Oh, there's a-
796
00:37:38,359 --> 00:37:40,672
- The object appears and
then moves off screen
797
00:37:40,706 --> 00:37:42,294
rather suddenly, and
then now it looks
798
00:37:42,329 --> 00:37:43,571
like it's reappearing.
799
00:37:43,606 --> 00:37:45,401
- Is that the same
object coming back?
800
00:37:45,435 --> 00:37:47,920
- Could be, I mean, it looks
like it's in the same location.
801
00:37:47,955 --> 00:37:49,439
Did you just see
how it zigzagged?
802
00:37:49,474 --> 00:37:50,958
It just moved in and moved out.
803
00:37:50,992 --> 00:37:52,270
This is exciting.
804
00:37:52,304 --> 00:37:53,316
Certainly anomalous, right?
805
00:37:53,340 --> 00:37:54,765
We're not gonna be able
to explain that easily.
806
00:37:54,789 --> 00:37:56,135
- Not very easily.
807
00:37:56,170 --> 00:37:58,241
You can't use all the
prosaic explanations
808
00:37:58,276 --> 00:38:01,451
of bird bugs or
aircraft on this one.
809
00:38:01,486 --> 00:38:03,695
And then check this
out, we have a object
810
00:38:04,592 --> 00:38:07,146
that it'll appear in the frame-
811
00:38:07,181 --> 00:38:08,527
- Well, what is that?
812
00:38:08,562 --> 00:38:09,735
You see that?
813
00:38:09,770 --> 00:38:11,392
Yeah.
814
00:38:11,427 --> 00:38:14,775
What is strange
is, it's registering cold
815
00:38:14,809 --> 00:38:19,124
in the thermal camera
over several pixels,
816
00:38:19,158 --> 00:38:21,264
and it has some motion to it.
817
00:38:21,299 --> 00:38:23,335
It looks like it
rotates or tilts,
818
00:38:23,370 --> 00:38:27,132
and appears, and then
dissipates out of the frame.
819
00:38:27,166 --> 00:38:28,064
That's even weirder than
820
00:38:28,098 --> 00:38:29,065
the other things you showed me.
821
00:38:29,099 --> 00:38:29,824
- Yes.
822
00:38:29,859 --> 00:38:30,791
- What time was this at?
823
00:38:30,825 --> 00:38:32,896
At 9:29 P.M.
824
00:38:32,931 --> 00:38:36,452
- That matches in time to
the night vision videos
825
00:38:36,486 --> 00:38:38,316
that we got from
the island team.
826
00:38:38,350 --> 00:38:39,938
Yeah, that's when they called in
827
00:38:39,972 --> 00:38:42,009
with their night vision videos.
828
00:38:42,043 --> 00:38:44,667
They saw an anomalous
object and we also saw
829
00:38:44,701 --> 00:38:46,324
an anomalous object in the FLIR.
830
00:38:46,358 --> 00:38:47,980
That would be a
remarkable coincidence.
831
00:38:48,015 --> 00:38:49,337
That would be remarkable.
832
00:38:49,361 --> 00:38:51,501
However, it just appear,
and then just disappear
833
00:38:51,536 --> 00:38:54,849
without leaving the frame,
without showing a path.
834
00:38:54,884 --> 00:38:57,369
This was just in there and
then it wasn't in there.
835
00:38:57,404 --> 00:38:58,450
- It's fading-
- It's gone.
836
00:38:58,474 --> 00:39:00,372
- It's gone.
- It's freaking gone.
837
00:39:00,407 --> 00:39:02,374
- Another interesting
fact about this is that
838
00:39:02,409 --> 00:39:05,688
this particular camera was
aimed at a 45 degree angle
839
00:39:05,722 --> 00:39:07,517
toward Catalina Island.
840
00:39:07,552 --> 00:39:09,450
- So could conceive it would be
841
00:39:09,485 --> 00:39:11,349
the same object.
- Same object.
842
00:39:11,383 --> 00:39:13,534
Yep, because they're
triangulating from
their perspective,
843
00:39:13,558 --> 00:39:17,147
and then we're triangulating
and converging at two points.
844
00:39:17,182 --> 00:39:20,392
- That would mean that we
have seen the same object,
845
00:39:20,427 --> 00:39:23,015
not only from different angles,
846
00:39:23,050 --> 00:39:25,052
but also three
different wavelengths;
847
00:39:25,086 --> 00:39:28,400
visible light and two different
kinds of infrared, right?
848
00:39:28,435 --> 00:39:32,231
So that is unprecedented in
the history of UAP research.
849
00:39:32,266 --> 00:39:34,406
- Having correlating day
from different instruments,
850
00:39:34,441 --> 00:39:36,857
with different wavelengths,
including radiation.
851
00:39:36,891 --> 00:39:38,065
That's just phenomenal.
852
00:39:40,447 --> 00:39:44,692
- In science, it's
very important,
especially when studying
853
00:39:44,727 --> 00:39:48,075
an unknown phenomenon,
to be able to
854
00:39:48,109 --> 00:39:52,217
have multiple different modes
or modalities of studying it,
855
00:39:52,251 --> 00:39:54,564
and being able to
look at correlations
856
00:39:54,599 --> 00:39:56,083
between different devices
857
00:39:56,117 --> 00:39:57,912
that are studying
the same phenomenon.
858
00:39:57,947 --> 00:40:02,261
This reduces the probability
of equipment malfunction,
859
00:40:02,296 --> 00:40:04,850
glitches and things like
that because the probability
860
00:40:04,885 --> 00:40:09,441
was greatly reduced of
something being accidental,
861
00:40:09,476 --> 00:40:12,375
if you can see it across
different devices,
862
00:40:12,410 --> 00:40:14,584
especially those
different devices
863
00:40:14,619 --> 00:40:16,759
are based on different
technologies,
864
00:40:16,793 --> 00:40:19,831
and are looking at the
same thing, different ways.
865
00:40:21,419 --> 00:40:26,147
- Today, July 14th, 2021 is
an exciting eventful day.
866
00:40:27,390 --> 00:40:31,014
At 5:26 PM, a pink
object appears,
867
00:40:31,049 --> 00:40:33,500
makes a U-turn, exits frame.
868
00:40:33,534 --> 00:40:34,846
Very anomalous.
869
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:39,851
6:07 P.M., a high-energy
radiation registers 32.32 MeV.
870
00:40:42,474 --> 00:40:46,444
6:09 P.M. we capture
another Tic Tac like object,
871
00:40:46,478 --> 00:40:48,100
traveling sideways.
872
00:40:48,135 --> 00:40:51,449
Could these be the same Navy
Tic Tacs that were observed
873
00:40:51,483 --> 00:40:56,454
in 2004 by the USS Nimitz,
then by other ships from 2014,
874
00:40:57,524 --> 00:41:00,423
all the way to 2019?
875
00:41:00,458 --> 00:41:01,942
That would be incredible.
876
00:41:01,976 --> 00:41:06,981
Later that evening at 9:29
P.M., the Catalina team captures
877
00:41:08,155 --> 00:41:10,329
an anomalous object,
solid in color
878
00:41:10,364 --> 00:41:14,333
on two night vision
cameras and one CCD camera,
879
00:41:14,368 --> 00:41:17,475
which correlates with
the solid object caught
880
00:41:17,509 --> 00:41:18,786
on our FLIR camera.
881
00:41:18,821 --> 00:41:21,548
Now this object registers cold,
882
00:41:21,582 --> 00:41:25,621
which means it has no propulsion
system that we know of.
883
00:41:25,655 --> 00:41:28,693
The object suddenly
disappears simultaneously
884
00:41:28,727 --> 00:41:31,489
out of sight from
the multiple angles.
885
00:41:31,523 --> 00:41:34,733
Even more intriguing is
that at the same time,
886
00:41:34,768 --> 00:41:39,531
the OSIRIS registers one
anomalous object on one camera,
887
00:41:39,566 --> 00:41:41,291
but not the other.
888
00:41:41,326 --> 00:41:45,123
These are very intriguing,
very compelling events,
889
00:41:45,157 --> 00:41:47,781
and astounding correlations.
890
00:41:47,815 --> 00:41:50,059
I think today was a breakthrough
891
00:41:50,093 --> 00:41:51,854
in our expedition and research.
892
00:41:51,888 --> 00:41:53,476
I am very hopeful.
893
00:41:53,511 --> 00:41:56,341
We're finally on the
right track in uncovering
894
00:41:56,375 --> 00:41:58,861
what these Tic Tac
objects may be,
895
00:41:58,895 --> 00:42:03,900
or at least getting
more evidential data
on UAPs and UFOs.
896
00:42:07,904 --> 00:42:12,668
- It takes just one credible
irrefutable piece of evidence
897
00:42:12,702 --> 00:42:15,878
to change all of world history.
898
00:42:15,912 --> 00:42:18,570
The entire literature
of the human race
899
00:42:18,605 --> 00:42:22,678
would have to be changed
if we had just one incident
900
00:42:22,712 --> 00:42:23,851
that is irrefutable.
901
00:42:25,370 --> 00:42:29,063
- Science is also about the
skills of data analysis.
902
00:42:29,098 --> 00:42:31,583
It's not just the hardware,
it's the software.
903
00:42:31,618 --> 00:42:33,620
And I don't just mean
computer software,
904
00:42:33,654 --> 00:42:36,623
I mean our human minds
and our intelligence
905
00:42:36,657 --> 00:42:39,315
in applying it to
analyzing the data.
906
00:42:39,349 --> 00:42:42,076
- So here's the
first one right here,
907
00:42:42,111 --> 00:42:45,597
and the night was pretty clear,
so you have to be careful
908
00:42:45,632 --> 00:42:47,081
not to be fooled
909
00:42:47,116 --> 00:42:49,912
by a lot of fuzzy
splashes, obviously stars.
910
00:42:49,946 --> 00:42:52,604
You'll also see a lot
of fast objects go by,
911
00:42:52,639 --> 00:42:56,194
which I'm pretty sure are
meteors, but what is that?
912
00:42:56,228 --> 00:42:57,402
- No, that's-
913
00:42:57,436 --> 00:42:59,231
- What is that
slow moving object?
914
00:42:59,266 --> 00:43:00,474
- And it's changing speed,
915
00:43:00,508 --> 00:43:02,580
it just slowed down and
curved a little bit.
916
00:43:02,614 --> 00:43:04,961
- It's changing angle
and it's not blinking.
917
00:43:04,996 --> 00:43:06,629
It's not blinking like
an airplane would,
918
00:43:06,653 --> 00:43:07,757
with airplane lights.
919
00:43:08,655 --> 00:43:10,864
- Part of the
scientific analysis
920
00:43:10,898 --> 00:43:13,280
is to carefully rule out objects
921
00:43:13,314 --> 00:43:15,765
that can easily
be taken for UFOs.
922
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:19,424
For example, a human
made advanced technology,
923
00:43:19,458 --> 00:43:22,600
or a mirage-like
object, or an aura
924
00:43:22,634 --> 00:43:27,605
that can easily mimic a
UFO because of reflectivity
925
00:43:28,675 --> 00:43:31,470
or some other atmospheric event.
926
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:37,753
- There is a phenomena
that you haven't mentioned.
927
00:43:37,787 --> 00:43:38,754
- Yes?
928
00:43:38,788 --> 00:43:43,448
- We know that
whales sing songs.
929
00:43:43,482 --> 00:43:45,484
And we know that
whales can hear them
930
00:43:46,727 --> 00:43:48,522
across the ocean,
1,000 miles away.
931
00:43:49,730 --> 00:43:52,595
The sound bounces off layers
932
00:43:52,630 --> 00:43:55,184
of water of different
temperatures,
933
00:43:55,218 --> 00:43:58,497
and then can be heart
many miles away.
934
00:43:58,532 --> 00:44:00,361
That same phenomena
applies to light.
935
00:44:00,396 --> 00:44:01,511
You're aware of that, right?
936
00:44:01,535 --> 00:44:02,812
- Mm-hmm.
937
00:44:02,847 --> 00:44:05,712
- Fata Morgana is a
mirage when people,
938
00:44:05,746 --> 00:44:10,268
and I've seen this myself,
seen something on a rock
939
00:44:10,302 --> 00:44:12,960
or some distance
away in the desert.
940
00:44:12,995 --> 00:44:16,481
And you could sometimes
see a weird thing.
941
00:44:16,515 --> 00:44:18,656
And when you came upon
it, it disappeared.
942
00:44:18,690 --> 00:44:20,761
Something happening over there,
943
00:44:22,004 --> 00:44:26,077
the light bounces off a hot
layer of air over there,
944
00:44:26,111 --> 00:44:27,837
and appears over here.
945
00:44:27,872 --> 00:44:32,877
So those floating ships
that we've seen, mirages,
946
00:44:34,119 --> 00:44:37,088
and many, many other objects,
the explanation is that
947
00:44:39,193 --> 00:44:44,198
a lot of phenomena are
natural and explicable.
948
00:44:45,717 --> 00:44:49,687
Now, it's also possible
that some of these phenomena
949
00:44:50,342 --> 00:44:51,654
aren't explained,
950
00:44:51,689 --> 00:44:53,459
and that's what you're
applying yourself to.
951
00:44:53,483 --> 00:44:56,107
- That's the idea
of this research.
952
00:44:56,141 --> 00:44:57,625
- Right.
953
00:44:57,660 --> 00:45:00,111
- Is to explain the explainable
that the average person
954
00:45:00,145 --> 00:45:02,907
would think is an anomaly,
but in fact it's not.
955
00:45:02,941 --> 00:45:04,771
- Right.
- Yeah, exactly.
956
00:45:06,013 --> 00:45:09,810
- When the normal average person
looks up at the night sky,
957
00:45:09,845 --> 00:45:13,020
or even the daytime sky,
and they see something
958
00:45:13,055 --> 00:45:16,437
that confuses them,
typically they're making
959
00:45:16,472 --> 00:45:19,199
the cognitive jump
right to a UAP.
960
00:45:19,233 --> 00:45:23,824
I can tell you for a 100%
fact that we have technology
961
00:45:23,859 --> 00:45:28,691
that does some crazy things,
that looks so unconventional,
962
00:45:28,726 --> 00:45:31,901
that the vast majority of
the citizenry in this country
963
00:45:31,936 --> 00:45:34,870
have no idea what's actually
flying in our skies.
964
00:45:34,904 --> 00:45:37,976
For example, Northrop
Grumman's X47B,
965
00:45:38,011 --> 00:45:42,498
this is a mock 9-plus
capable aircraft,
966
00:45:42,532 --> 00:45:45,846
it is shaped almost in
an equilateral triangle,
967
00:45:45,881 --> 00:45:47,330
this thing has a service ceiling
968
00:45:47,365 --> 00:45:50,126
of roughly 40 to 50,000 feet.
969
00:45:50,161 --> 00:45:52,922
So at that altitude, you're
not gonna hear sound.
970
00:45:52,957 --> 00:45:55,891
So the only thing that
a person may be seeing
971
00:45:55,925 --> 00:45:58,479
is just the reflection
of ambient light
972
00:45:58,514 --> 00:46:01,862
from the surface of
the aircraft, which
makes it look as if
973
00:46:01,897 --> 00:46:05,555
there is an illuminated
triangle flying across the sky.
974
00:46:05,590 --> 00:46:08,869
One of the other
examples of a drone
975
00:46:08,904 --> 00:46:10,837
that most people
don't know about
976
00:46:10,871 --> 00:46:12,459
is Northrop Grumman's Bat.
977
00:46:12,493 --> 00:46:16,463
They're much, much smaller,
the Bat could probably fit
978
00:46:16,497 --> 00:46:18,706
in the trunk of my vehicle.
979
00:46:18,741 --> 00:46:23,711
So these things can be launched
from a catapult on a ship
980
00:46:24,989 --> 00:46:26,967
with without having to have
a runway or a flight deck.
981
00:46:26,991 --> 00:46:29,062
They are propeller-powered,
electrically-driven,
982
00:46:29,096 --> 00:46:32,755
and they have an endurance
of up to 18 hours.
983
00:46:32,790 --> 00:46:36,932
So this is a drone that
has a small battery pack,
984
00:46:36,966 --> 00:46:41,246
but it still maintains very
robust sensor capability,
985
00:46:41,281 --> 00:46:45,112
and an extended duration
of almost 20 hours
986
00:46:45,147 --> 00:46:47,252
of flight time, giving
it the capability
987
00:46:47,287 --> 00:46:49,876
of getting out to sea,
potentially swarming
988
00:46:49,910 --> 00:46:52,637
around a vessel, and returning.
989
00:46:52,671 --> 00:46:55,295
The things that the
Tic Tac was doing,
990
00:46:55,329 --> 00:46:59,955
in my understanding of
aircraft and flight dynamics,
991
00:46:59,989 --> 00:47:01,888
we still are not at that level.
992
00:47:11,794 --> 00:47:12,553
- Thanks for coming out, Ryan.
993
00:47:12,588 --> 00:47:14,003
- No, no problem.
994
00:47:14,038 --> 00:47:16,903
- I'll sit down and pick
your brain for little while.
995
00:47:16,937 --> 00:47:17,835
- Sounds good.
996
00:47:17,869 --> 00:47:18,950
- Right, so it's been a while.
997
00:47:18,974 --> 00:47:20,285
- It has been.
998
00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:22,978
- Thanks for coming by,
ship mate, I appreciate
999
00:47:23,012 --> 00:47:26,326
you visiting us here while
we're doing our research.
1000
00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:29,087
You were on board when
commander Fravor did
1001
00:47:29,122 --> 00:47:32,470
his famous intercept and the
Tic Tac video was created.
1002
00:47:32,504 --> 00:47:33,851
- Yes.
1003
00:47:33,885 --> 00:47:36,888
- Could you walk me through
exactly how you found out,
1004
00:47:36,923 --> 00:47:38,856
like what you were
doing on board?
1005
00:47:38,890 --> 00:47:40,340
I honestly never had met you
1006
00:47:40,374 --> 00:47:42,031
and it's a pretty
small ship, so.
1007
00:47:42,066 --> 00:47:43,101
- Right.
1008
00:47:43,136 --> 00:47:44,654
I was part of the
air detachment,
1009
00:47:44,689 --> 00:47:47,381
I was leading petty officer
of HSL 43S detachment
1010
00:47:47,416 --> 00:47:49,107
on board with you
guys on the Princeton.
1011
00:47:49,142 --> 00:47:51,903
I had actually been in combat
at the time on the phone
1012
00:47:51,938 --> 00:47:54,181
with the command back
home because we needed
1013
00:47:54,216 --> 00:47:55,734
something for our aircraft.
1014
00:47:55,769 --> 00:47:57,875
So we were working out
the logistics of that.
1015
00:47:57,909 --> 00:48:00,808
During that timeframe, the
intercept was going on,
1016
00:48:00,843 --> 00:48:02,510
there was radar screens,
so I was able to see that.
1017
00:48:02,534 --> 00:48:04,571
And then of course,
all of the commotion,
1018
00:48:05,779 --> 00:48:07,574
and what was going
on around me during
1019
00:48:07,608 --> 00:48:10,542
that timeframe was
definitely heightened.
1020
00:48:10,577 --> 00:48:15,409
- Were you there when the
civilians had come on board?
1021
00:48:15,444 --> 00:48:19,379
I refer to 'em now as the men
in khaki because,
1022
00:48:19,413 --> 00:48:22,416
- Right, so yeah, I was
there when they showed up.
1023
00:48:22,451 --> 00:48:25,523
I was in the hangar during
flight ops, they came in,
1024
00:48:25,557 --> 00:48:28,008
walked pretty much straight
out of the hangar and left,
1025
00:48:28,043 --> 00:48:31,943
came back short time later
with some bags and took off.
1026
00:48:31,978 --> 00:48:34,232
Well, I can
fill you in on what they took.
1027
00:48:34,256 --> 00:48:35,533
- Yeah, I know you can do that.
1028
00:48:35,567 --> 00:48:37,984
- Yeah, all of our
data are recording.
1029
00:48:38,018 --> 00:48:42,989
So now that you saw the Tic
Tac video and the GIMBAL videos
1030
00:48:44,611 --> 00:48:47,200
and all the stuff that we know
about what actually happened,
1031
00:48:47,234 --> 00:48:50,548
and the flight characteristics
of what it could actually do,
1032
00:48:50,582 --> 00:48:52,964
you being really familiar
with aircraft being
1033
00:48:52,999 --> 00:48:56,934
in the air deck, what
did you think about it?
1034
00:48:56,968 --> 00:49:00,868
- What I thought about it is
there's absolutely no aircraft
1035
00:49:00,903 --> 00:49:03,457
that can do what those
things were doing
1036
00:49:03,492 --> 00:49:05,977
that I know of or have seen.
1037
00:49:06,012 --> 00:49:08,669
- So no nobody wants
to be the UFO guy,
1038
00:49:08,704 --> 00:49:12,466
and it's usually hard
to talk about anyways.
1039
00:49:13,778 --> 00:49:16,125
What made you be able
to get over all that,
1040
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:17,230
to talk about it?
1041
00:49:17,264 --> 00:49:18,586
Was there a real big
stigma in the air deck
1042
00:49:18,610 --> 00:49:20,095
about stuff like that?
1043
00:49:20,129 --> 00:49:22,073
- Well, there's always a stigma
when you talk about UFOs,
1044
00:49:22,097 --> 00:49:24,720
it doesn't matter if
people believe you or not,
1045
00:49:24,754 --> 00:49:27,102
you're gonna get
something for it.
1046
00:49:27,136 --> 00:49:30,070
- I always planning on
making a full second career
1047
00:49:30,105 --> 00:49:32,831
in the department of
defense as a contractor,
1048
00:49:32,866 --> 00:49:34,902
but because I was
clowned and ridiculed
1049
00:49:34,937 --> 00:49:37,112
and kinda lost my
reputation a little bit,
1050
00:49:37,146 --> 00:49:40,598
it destroyed me almost.
1051
00:49:40,632 --> 00:49:41,989
I saw this video on
the TV guys like,
1052
00:49:42,013 --> 00:49:46,190
"Oh my freakin' God,
it's happening?"
1053
00:49:46,224 --> 00:49:49,089
And I dropped the plate of food
and I jumped on the internet
1054
00:49:49,124 --> 00:49:51,885
and found out what
had just happened.
1055
00:49:51,919 --> 00:49:53,199
That moment shook me to the core
1056
00:49:53,231 --> 00:49:55,578
'cause I knew my life was
about to change again.
1057
00:49:55,613 --> 00:49:58,374
I had gone through all this
pain and suffering if you will,
1058
00:49:58,409 --> 00:50:01,170
so I feel validated right now.
1059
00:50:04,104 --> 00:50:06,900
- My thing is is,
I saw what I saw,
1060
00:50:06,934 --> 00:50:08,695
and I can't unsee what I saw.
1061
00:50:08,729 --> 00:50:13,079
And if I saw it, then
it happened, and I
wanna back that up.
1062
00:50:13,113 --> 00:50:16,634
- For me, I was lucky that
I didn't have the level
1063
00:50:16,668 --> 00:50:18,877
of PTSD that some of
the other guys did,
1064
00:50:18,912 --> 00:50:23,917
but instead of trying to make
this public, I internalized.
1065
00:50:24,745 --> 00:50:26,678
For a long time after the event,
1066
00:50:26,713 --> 00:50:30,199
I was emotionally
completely voided.
1067
00:50:30,234 --> 00:50:35,239
I didn't really care, honestly,
whether I lived or died,
1068
00:50:36,757 --> 00:50:40,347
or whether or not anybody
wanted to have a relationship
1069
00:50:40,382 --> 00:50:42,384
with me, nor was I
capable of having
1070
00:50:42,418 --> 00:50:44,869
any type of interpersonal
relationship.
1071
00:50:44,903 --> 00:50:47,389
- We need to tell the truth
about the things that we see.
1072
00:50:47,423 --> 00:50:49,632
- Yeah, and that's the
one thing that really bugs
1073
00:50:49,667 --> 00:50:53,636
a lot of us about that too,
is that we couldn't tell
1074
00:50:53,671 --> 00:50:56,087
the ops whole
truth about things.
1075
00:50:56,122 --> 00:50:57,720
And if you did, nobody
would believe you 'cause
1076
00:50:57,744 --> 00:50:59,101
the government didn't
tell the truth either.
1077
00:50:59,125 --> 00:51:00,298
- Of course.
1078
00:51:00,333 --> 00:51:02,069
- Well, so do you wanna see
what we gotta go going upstairs?
1079
00:51:02,093 --> 00:51:03,208
- All right, I'd love to see it.
1080
00:51:03,232 --> 00:51:04,509
- All right, let's go do it.
1081
00:51:10,412 --> 00:51:13,346
- Every step we make
towards finding out
1082
00:51:13,380 --> 00:51:16,418
what these Navy Tic
Tac objects are about
1083
00:51:16,452 --> 00:51:20,974
is a step towards these
guys' recovery in a way.
1084
00:51:21,008 --> 00:51:26,048
In coming to terms with the
event that changed their lives,
1085
00:51:27,187 --> 00:51:30,432
I feel, with this
mission, we are uncovering
1086
00:51:30,466 --> 00:51:33,297
more and more
pieces of the puzzle
1087
00:51:33,331 --> 00:51:37,094
that will hopefully
someday bring some answers
1088
00:51:37,128 --> 00:51:39,889
to these very strange events.
1089
00:51:42,064 --> 00:51:45,999
We are four days in the
expedition, I am getting
1090
00:51:46,033 --> 00:51:49,209
really excited about the
results we have so far.
1091
00:51:49,244 --> 00:51:51,246
Hopefully we'll
have more tomorrow.
1092
00:51:51,280 --> 00:51:53,834
Meanwhile, David
Mason's inventions
1093
00:51:53,869 --> 00:51:56,872
that convert light to
sound and sound to light
1094
00:51:56,906 --> 00:51:59,806
have been operational 24/7.
1095
00:51:59,840 --> 00:52:03,154
They've been capturing the
light that comes from objects
1096
00:52:03,189 --> 00:52:05,432
in the sky, and retransmitting
1097
00:52:05,467 --> 00:52:09,298
the same pattern back
to space nonstop.
1098
00:52:09,333 --> 00:52:12,508
I decided to give it a try,
and see if we could capture
1099
00:52:12,543 --> 00:52:14,959
the sound of an
anomalous object,
1100
00:52:14,993 --> 00:52:19,722
and broadcast our own music and
sound back to them in space.
1101
00:52:23,001 --> 00:52:24,324
- So that's the object.
- So which star is that?
1102
00:52:24,348 --> 00:52:27,316
- You're looking at Altair,
so if you aim the goggles
1103
00:52:27,351 --> 00:52:29,180
and keep it in the
center field of view,
1104
00:52:29,215 --> 00:52:29,974
- Right, right.
1105
00:52:30,008 --> 00:52:31,182
- Now you can hear it.
1106
00:52:31,217 --> 00:52:32,528
- Oh, yeah.
1107
00:52:32,563 --> 00:52:34,283
You can hear the rumble from it.
1108
00:52:35,462 --> 00:52:36,946
- Oh, there's an airplane.
1109
00:52:36,981 --> 00:52:39,639
Oh, I can hear the
airplane, it's different.
1110
00:52:41,019 --> 00:52:42,480
Can you see over there,
over there, can you see?
1111
00:52:42,504 --> 00:52:43,815
It's getting a different sound.
1112
00:52:43,850 --> 00:52:46,335
- It looks like it
could be a satellite.
1113
00:52:46,370 --> 00:52:49,994
Oh wow, how cool.
1114
00:52:50,028 --> 00:52:52,307
So is this the middle one,
is that the visible light?
1115
00:52:52,341 --> 00:52:53,377
- Yes.
1116
00:52:54,205 --> 00:52:57,208
So we have two
different types of music
1117
00:52:57,243 --> 00:52:59,521
being transmitted on
two different spectrums.
1118
00:53:00,694 --> 00:53:03,214
So it's kinda like
radio stations
1119
00:53:03,249 --> 00:53:04,502
that have different frequencies.
1120
00:53:04,526 --> 00:53:05,975
So that way we can
separate 'em out
1121
00:53:06,010 --> 00:53:07,494
and just put out different data.
1122
00:53:08,978 --> 00:53:12,465
- I am blown away by
David Mason's inventions.
1123
00:53:12,499 --> 00:53:16,365
If we are able to capture the
sound of objects in the sky,
1124
00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:20,231
then we can potentially
identify the acoustic pattern
1125
00:53:20,266 --> 00:53:23,510
of a UFO, which can
give us more information
1126
00:53:23,545 --> 00:53:25,892
about the properties
of these objects.
1127
00:53:25,926 --> 00:53:28,998
And the music that we
broadcast can reach
1128
00:53:29,033 --> 00:53:32,312
all points in space,
and potentially a UFO
1129
00:53:32,347 --> 00:53:36,178
would receive our music as
a mode of communication,
1130
00:53:36,213 --> 00:53:38,525
and hopefully will attempt
to communicate back
1131
00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:40,251
with us here on earth.
1132
00:53:40,286 --> 00:53:44,221
The only way to find out if
this mode of communication works
1133
00:53:44,255 --> 00:53:47,258
is to keep the devices
running continuously,
1134
00:53:47,293 --> 00:53:49,847
and see if we can
then correlate them
1135
00:53:49,881 --> 00:53:54,403
with an actual UFO siding
in a measurable way.
1136
00:53:54,438 --> 00:53:56,233
That would be phenomenal.
1137
00:53:57,579 --> 00:54:01,272
- Day four, really tired, I
hadn't been sleeping at all.
1138
00:54:01,307 --> 00:54:03,999
Other than that, we still
got some more anomalous data
1139
00:54:04,033 --> 00:54:05,587
with the radiation detectors,
1140
00:54:05,621 --> 00:54:08,900
and we got the FLIRs
going continuous still,
1141
00:54:08,935 --> 00:54:10,212
looking forward to tomorrow,
1142
00:54:10,247 --> 00:54:12,387
I'm gonna go catch a
couple hours of sleep.
1143
00:54:31,337 --> 00:54:33,280
- Tell me when Gary gets here,
so lemme catch some sleep.
1144
00:54:33,304 --> 00:54:35,755
- Already here.
- You're too late.
1145
00:54:35,789 --> 00:54:37,757
Good morning.
1146
00:54:37,791 --> 00:54:38,999
- Morning.
1147
00:54:39,034 --> 00:54:40,311
That was all right.
1148
00:54:40,346 --> 00:54:41,968
Oh well, you still have to work.
1149
00:54:42,002 --> 00:54:44,108
Everything's starting
to look up finally.
1150
00:54:44,142 --> 00:54:45,316
- Yeah, that's good, bro.
1151
00:54:45,351 --> 00:54:46,835
That's really good.
1152
00:54:46,869 --> 00:54:48,433
- It's good for everybody
except the neighbors.
1153
00:54:48,457 --> 00:54:50,537
They think our equipment
can see through their walls.
1154
00:54:51,460 --> 00:54:52,782
- Yeah, when the police
come in last night,
1155
00:54:52,806 --> 00:54:54,394
they were a little
concerned at first,
1156
00:54:54,429 --> 00:54:56,431
but then once we showed
'em what we had going on,
1157
00:54:56,465 --> 00:54:59,882
it was like, man,
he was intrigued.
1158
00:54:59,917 --> 00:55:01,481
- Yeah, it must have been
interesting since they sent
1159
00:55:01,505 --> 00:55:04,128
the other two up here too.
1160
00:55:04,162 --> 00:55:05,416
At least they all
had a good time.
1161
00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:06,796
That's true, that's true.
1162
00:55:06,820 --> 00:55:08,305
All right, man,
let's get to work.
1163
00:55:08,339 --> 00:55:09,202
- Let's get to work.
1164
00:55:09,236 --> 00:55:10,490
- How come it's always radiation
1165
00:55:10,514 --> 00:55:11,342
and they're never
bringing coffee?
1166
00:55:11,377 --> 00:55:12,688
- Well.
- Well, you know.
1167
00:55:15,484 --> 00:55:18,453
- Hey, we got an anomalous
event for you to check out.
1168
00:55:18,487 --> 00:55:19,385
- Did it show up on FLIR?
1169
00:55:19,419 --> 00:55:20,489
- No, but you know what?
1170
00:55:20,524 --> 00:55:21,835
I think you can help us with it.
1171
00:55:21,870 --> 00:55:24,493
- Check it out, goes all
the way down the coast,
1172
00:55:24,528 --> 00:55:27,393
turns around, tracks back up,
that little black dot is us.
1173
00:55:28,670 --> 00:55:30,061
- Wait, what's on
that orange path?
1174
00:55:30,085 --> 00:55:30,982
Is that-
1175
00:55:31,017 --> 00:55:32,363
- That's the flight path.
1176
00:55:32,398 --> 00:55:33,616
The historical flight path
going down, coming back out,
1177
00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:35,504
veering out right over our roof.
1178
00:55:35,539 --> 00:55:37,644
- Oh, is that a helicopter?
1179
00:55:37,679 --> 00:55:40,198
- Yeah it's not a-
- Helicopter
1180
00:55:40,233 --> 00:55:41,314
- It's a helicopter.
- Yeah.
1181
00:55:41,338 --> 00:55:42,200
- But wait is-
1182
00:55:42,235 --> 00:55:43,857
- Just messing with you man.
1183
00:55:43,892 --> 00:55:45,480
- Couldn't this be
copy as espionage?
1184
00:55:45,514 --> 00:55:47,205
- I called the company-
1185
00:55:47,240 --> 00:55:48,966
- much of a corporation yet.
1186
00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:51,382
That's a video of it
going over the top of us.
1187
00:55:51,417 --> 00:55:52,349
- That's crazy.
1188
00:55:52,383 --> 00:55:53,384
- Yeah.
1189
00:55:53,419 --> 00:55:54,419
Get back to work, man.
1190
00:55:55,248 --> 00:55:56,007
- All right.
1191
00:55:56,042 --> 00:55:56,801
- So Gary?
1192
00:55:56,836 --> 00:55:57,457
- Yeah.
1193
00:55:57,492 --> 00:55:58,389
- Navy guy walks into a bar.
1194
00:55:58,424 --> 00:55:59,953
He's got a three-foot
salami under one arm
1195
00:55:59,977 --> 00:56:00,988
and a poodle under the other.
1196
00:56:01,012 --> 00:56:02,462
- Yep, sounds like a good time.
1197
00:56:10,539 --> 00:56:14,060
- This has been hard, because
it's a huge amount of work,
1198
00:56:14,094 --> 00:56:17,097
a huge amount of
data and equipment,
1199
00:56:17,132 --> 00:56:21,239
but I'm getting really excited
because David Mason tells me,
1200
00:56:21,274 --> 00:56:23,483
he recorded a flurry
1201
00:56:23,518 --> 00:56:26,383
of raining objects
falling down from the sky.
1202
00:56:28,730 --> 00:56:32,906
Kevin Day said at one point
it was raining Tic Tacs.
1203
00:56:32,941 --> 00:56:35,461
I don't know if these are
the same raining Tic Tacs
1204
00:56:35,495 --> 00:56:38,015
that Kevin Day
was talking about,
1205
00:56:38,049 --> 00:56:40,397
but it sure sounds
very intriguing,
1206
00:56:40,431 --> 00:56:42,399
and I can't wait to find out.
1207
00:56:43,779 --> 00:56:45,367
- What do you guys got?
1208
00:56:45,402 --> 00:56:47,000
- We've got something really
interesting here, Gary.
1209
00:56:47,024 --> 00:56:48,128
Now watch the screen.
1210
00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:51,546
What we have is objects
that appear to be dropping
1211
00:56:51,580 --> 00:56:53,410
from the sky and, you see that?
1212
00:56:53,444 --> 00:56:55,584
It's just there
momentarily and looks like
1213
00:56:55,619 --> 00:56:58,449
they're actually
dropping into the ocean.
1214
00:56:58,484 --> 00:56:59,761
- That's crazy.
1215
00:56:59,795 --> 00:57:00,876
- And I've looked at
this and I'm think
1216
00:57:00,900 --> 00:57:03,385
could this be a camera artifact?
1217
00:57:03,420 --> 00:57:06,250
However, there's a
transition of decay time.
1218
00:57:06,284 --> 00:57:07,527
So this is very strange.
1219
00:57:07,562 --> 00:57:10,841
- So could these be like
ice forming and dropping
1220
00:57:10,875 --> 00:57:12,532
into the water or, I mean.
1221
00:57:12,567 --> 00:57:15,501
- No, because what we're also
seeing is it's transitioning
1222
00:57:15,535 --> 00:57:18,676
where it's appearing in the
field of view momentarily,
1223
00:57:18,711 --> 00:57:20,298
and then disappearing,
1224
00:57:20,333 --> 00:57:22,818
but it's clearly having a
trajectory that's downward.
1225
00:57:22,853 --> 00:57:24,579
- I'm seeing 'em
come in and then out,
1226
00:57:24,613 --> 00:57:26,512
and then in again when
they hit the water.
1227
00:57:26,546 --> 00:57:27,696
- It looks like
they hit the water.
1228
00:57:27,720 --> 00:57:29,825
Looks like they
illuminate in the water.
1229
00:57:29,860 --> 00:57:31,102
That's amazing.
1230
00:57:31,137 --> 00:57:32,321
Does this
remind you of anything?
1231
00:57:32,345 --> 00:57:33,588
- Sure does.
1232
00:57:33,622 --> 00:57:35,313
It reminds me of the
Tic Tacs from '04.
1233
00:57:35,348 --> 00:57:39,214
They would go from 28,000 feet
down the sea level like that,
1234
00:57:39,248 --> 00:57:41,492
I mean just straight
down, just like that.
1235
00:57:41,527 --> 00:57:45,462
- I first saw the first group
of those, whatever they were
1236
00:57:45,496 --> 00:57:49,500
on the 10th of November
and the intercept
1237
00:57:49,535 --> 00:57:52,296
with FASTGO flight
happened on the 14th.
1238
00:57:52,330 --> 00:57:54,130
And I continued to see
these things up until
1239
00:57:54,160 --> 00:57:56,783
about the 19th of November.
1240
00:57:56,818 --> 00:57:59,337
And they were always in
groups of five to 10.
1241
00:57:59,372 --> 00:58:01,443
But if you were to
add up all the groups,
1242
00:58:01,478 --> 00:58:03,583
there was about 100
of these objects.
1243
00:58:03,618 --> 00:58:05,585
- There were dozens of
such tracks like this,
1244
00:58:05,620 --> 00:58:08,346
which correlate not
only with high energies,
1245
00:58:08,381 --> 00:58:11,073
but also high rates
in the cosmic watch.
1246
00:58:11,108 --> 00:58:14,352
- After we examined the
videos that we recorded,
1247
00:58:14,387 --> 00:58:17,010
we were able to calculate
the size of the objects based
1248
00:58:17,045 --> 00:58:21,739
on the camera field of view and
the distance of the horizon.
1249
00:58:21,774 --> 00:58:26,433
We found that the objects were
at least four feet across,
1250
00:58:26,468 --> 00:58:29,333
and falling at least
at 5,000 miles an hour,
1251
00:58:29,367 --> 00:58:32,992
and the objects that were
distant were measured out
1252
00:58:33,026 --> 00:58:36,858
at 69 feet across,
and falling at a speed
1253
00:58:36,892 --> 00:58:39,550
of at least 84,000
miles per hour.
1254
00:58:39,585 --> 00:58:43,658
So even if we were off
in calculations by 50%,
1255
00:58:43,692 --> 00:58:46,730
we have some extraordinary
numbers that can't explain
1256
00:58:46,764 --> 00:58:50,078
this phenomenon as being
something natural or known.
1257
00:58:51,251 --> 00:58:52,770
- Hey, you guys,
what are you up to?
1258
00:58:52,805 --> 00:58:55,704
- They're showing me some
basically objects falling
1259
00:58:55,739 --> 00:58:57,395
from the sky to the ocean.
1260
00:58:57,430 --> 00:58:59,708
They found some correlating data
1261
00:58:59,743 --> 00:59:04,057
with the radiation detection,
and I mean, honestly,
1262
00:59:04,092 --> 00:59:07,198
it reminds me of the stuff
we were seeing in '04.
1263
00:59:07,233 --> 00:59:09,028
- Wow! Tic Tacs?
1264
00:59:09,062 --> 00:59:10,201
It maybe Tic Tacs?
1265
00:59:10,236 --> 00:59:11,513
Maybe.
1266
00:59:11,548 --> 00:59:12,307
Caught on our cameras?
1267
00:59:12,341 --> 00:59:13,584
That's incredible.
1268
00:59:13,619 --> 00:59:14,975
- I mean, the fade
out makes it look like
1269
00:59:14,999 --> 00:59:18,037
it is really something
dropping from the sky,
1270
00:59:18,071 --> 00:59:20,591
based on the way it fades out.
1271
00:59:20,626 --> 00:59:21,903
- That's great.
1272
00:59:21,937 --> 00:59:24,077
Wow, we got a lot
of stuff actually.
1273
00:59:24,112 --> 00:59:25,700
Honestly, I'm very surprised
1274
00:59:25,734 --> 00:59:26,597
about everything that we've got.
1275
00:59:26,632 --> 00:59:28,495
- You know, David yesterday,
1276
00:59:28,530 --> 00:59:31,050
we were doing all the
night vision stuff.
1277
00:59:31,084 --> 00:59:33,259
- We just continuously broadcast
1278
00:59:33,293 --> 00:59:36,262
this over ultraviolet
spectrum and white spectrum
1279
00:59:36,296 --> 00:59:37,539
and infrared spectrum.
1280
00:59:37,574 --> 00:59:39,058
- So let's say
we've provoked it.
1281
00:59:39,092 --> 00:59:40,092
- We provoked it.
1282
00:59:42,233 --> 00:59:45,582
We have recorded objects
falling down from the sky
1283
00:59:45,616 --> 00:59:48,239
at extraordinary speed that seem
1284
00:59:48,274 --> 00:59:51,967
to have similar characteristics
as the raining Tic Tacs
1285
00:59:52,002 --> 00:59:54,970
that Kevin Day
witnessed in 2004.
1286
00:59:55,005 --> 00:59:58,733
Our measurements of their
size and speed also fall
1287
00:59:58,767 --> 01:00:01,736
within the same range
as the findings made
1288
01:00:01,770 --> 01:00:05,084
by the scientific
coalition of UAP studies,
1289
01:00:05,118 --> 01:00:09,536
as well as Dr. Knuth's
scientific paper, "Entropy."
1290
01:00:09,571 --> 01:00:13,748
These in depth scientific
analysis of the Navy Tic Tacs,
1291
01:00:13,782 --> 01:00:17,648
details similar estimated
size and velocities
1292
01:00:17,683 --> 01:00:21,065
in the tens of thousands
of miles per hour,
1293
01:00:21,100 --> 01:00:25,725
just like the objects we have
captured on our FLIR cameras.
1294
01:00:25,760 --> 01:00:27,900
We are getting more validation
1295
01:00:27,934 --> 01:00:30,661
from other legitimate
organizations
1296
01:00:30,696 --> 01:00:34,734
about potential UAP
properties, which is exactly
1297
01:00:34,769 --> 01:00:39,428
what is needed for this
level of rigorous research.
1298
01:00:41,707 --> 01:00:44,675
- So what kind of category
do we think these things are?
1299
01:00:44,710 --> 01:00:47,333
Are they physical objects,
a natural phenomena,
1300
01:00:47,367 --> 01:00:49,715
or are they mental
manifestations?
1301
01:00:49,749 --> 01:00:51,820
Are we all imagining
seeing these things?
1302
01:00:51,855 --> 01:00:52,821
I doubt that because we measure
1303
01:00:52,856 --> 01:00:54,305
with scientific
instruments, right?
1304
01:00:54,340 --> 01:00:55,790
- Right.
1305
01:00:55,824 --> 01:00:57,560
We're not all being hacked,
and spoofed on this.
1306
01:00:57,584 --> 01:00:58,793
- Yeah.
1307
01:00:58,827 --> 01:01:00,829
- So my thoughts
are, it is from some
1308
01:01:00,864 --> 01:01:04,971
sort of intelligent creation
and intelligent construction,
1309
01:01:05,006 --> 01:01:07,318
meaning it's a
technological device.
1310
01:01:07,353 --> 01:01:09,666
It could be organic, it
could be electromagnetic,
1311
01:01:09,700 --> 01:01:11,322
could be who knows what?
1312
01:01:11,357 --> 01:01:15,602
- On this hand it's ours, and
on this hand, it's not ours.
1313
01:01:15,637 --> 01:01:17,812
And the answer lies
somewhere in between.
1314
01:01:17,846 --> 01:01:19,917
So my mind right now is open.
1315
01:01:19,952 --> 01:01:21,850
If it turns out to be our stuff
1316
01:01:21,885 --> 01:01:24,025
or some other country's
stuff, I'm good with that.
1317
01:01:24,059 --> 01:01:25,889
Okay, I have my answer.
1318
01:01:25,923 --> 01:01:28,857
If it turns out to be
something not from this planet,
1319
01:01:28,892 --> 01:01:29,789
I'm good with that too.
1320
01:01:29,824 --> 01:01:31,204
Okay, I have my answer now.
1321
01:01:31,239 --> 01:01:35,726
- That stuff, knowledge,
information, engineering,
1322
01:01:35,761 --> 01:01:38,108
that right now, to my knowledge,
1323
01:01:38,142 --> 01:01:40,213
nobody on this planet
knows how to do it.
1324
01:01:41,042 --> 01:01:42,250
- Right.
- Right?
1325
01:01:42,284 --> 01:01:44,735
So that suggests that
it's somebody from
1326
01:01:44,770 --> 01:01:48,463
some other place has done
this, or maybe other time.
1327
01:01:48,497 --> 01:01:50,603
- And I think that's
an important point.
1328
01:01:50,637 --> 01:01:53,330
You mentioned earlier,
the multiple cases,
1329
01:01:53,364 --> 01:01:54,883
you mentioned the Bassoon case.
1330
01:01:54,918 --> 01:01:58,266
That's from 1951, and you've
got these objects moving
1331
01:01:58,300 --> 01:02:01,441
at very high accelerations
and taking off at high speeds.
1332
01:02:01,476 --> 01:02:03,374
The pilot estimated
it is leaving
1333
01:02:03,409 --> 01:02:07,240
at about 1500 miles an hour,
and it was tracked on radar
1334
01:02:07,275 --> 01:02:10,140
from Newfoundland at
1800 miles an hour.
1335
01:02:10,174 --> 01:02:13,937
This is two years before
the air speed record
1336
01:02:13,971 --> 01:02:17,250
of 695 miles an hour was broken.
1337
01:02:17,285 --> 01:02:19,770
So this thing was moving
three or four times faster
1338
01:02:19,805 --> 01:02:21,358
than the air speed record.
1339
01:02:21,392 --> 01:02:23,843
- They're also now declassified
reports thanks to FOIA,
1340
01:02:23,878 --> 01:02:26,535
mentioning flying
white butane tanks.
1341
01:02:26,570 --> 01:02:28,641
That sounds like a lot
like a Tic Tac to me.
1342
01:02:28,675 --> 01:02:30,235
And that was the
late '40s early '50s.
1343
01:02:30,263 --> 01:02:31,886
Well, let me put
this in perspective,
1344
01:02:31,920 --> 01:02:36,925
Einstein, Rosen and Polski
came up with these concepts
1345
01:02:37,926 --> 01:02:41,861
in the 1905 timeframe,
into later about 1913.
1346
01:02:41,896 --> 01:02:45,623
So in about 100 years,
is all that humanity
1347
01:02:45,658 --> 01:02:49,731
has had a basic
construct to say,
1348
01:02:49,766 --> 01:02:53,217
faster than like travel,
worm holes, warp drives,
1349
01:02:53,252 --> 01:02:54,805
are even possible.
1350
01:02:54,840 --> 01:02:59,534
And it wasn't until 1994 that
someone was clever enough,
1351
01:03:00,811 --> 01:03:04,228
Alcubierre came up with
the warp physics that says,
1352
01:03:04,263 --> 01:03:07,714
"Okay, well the physics we've
learned since 1905 tells us,"
1353
01:03:07,749 --> 01:03:09,347
okay, maybe it is possible
to do what they do
1354
01:03:09,371 --> 01:03:11,822
in Star Trek and other science
fiction, movies and books,
1355
01:03:11,857 --> 01:03:14,652
but that's only
100 to 120 years.
1356
01:03:14,687 --> 01:03:15,792
- Yeah.
1357
01:03:15,826 --> 01:03:16,907
- Not thousands not millions.
- The universe
1358
01:03:16,931 --> 01:03:18,898
is 13.7 billion years old.
1359
01:03:18,933 --> 01:03:21,211
There's a civilization
somewhere near us
1360
01:03:21,245 --> 01:03:23,040
that's thousands of years old.
1361
01:03:23,075 --> 01:03:26,423
Their Einstein was 10,000
years ago, for example.
1362
01:03:26,457 --> 01:03:28,528
So where does that put them now?
1363
01:03:28,563 --> 01:03:30,634
- What if you have
multiple civilizations
1364
01:03:30,668 --> 01:03:31,922
and they have
different technologies?
1365
01:03:31,946 --> 01:03:32,912
'Cause they use
different things.
1366
01:03:32,947 --> 01:03:34,534
- Of course they do.
1367
01:03:34,569 --> 01:03:36,340
The other thing that happens
is, space gets compressed,
1368
01:03:36,364 --> 01:03:37,675
makes the distances shorter.
1369
01:03:37,710 --> 01:03:38,918
Space isn't empty.
1370
01:03:38,953 --> 01:03:41,921
You've got about one hydrogen
atom per cubic meter.
1371
01:03:41,956 --> 01:03:43,854
So as you compress space
at very high speeds,
1372
01:03:43,889 --> 01:03:45,752
you're no longer flying
through a vacuum,
1373
01:03:45,787 --> 01:03:46,937
you're flying through a cloud.
1374
01:03:46,961 --> 01:03:48,445
At close to the speed of light,
1375
01:03:48,479 --> 01:03:50,965
it's gonna rip your
ship apart in no time,
1376
01:03:50,999 --> 01:03:54,761
unless you have a
technology that allows you
1377
01:03:54,796 --> 01:03:57,005
to travel through matter
without affecting it,
1378
01:03:57,040 --> 01:03:58,938
like we actually see here with-
1379
01:03:58,973 --> 01:04:00,882
- That is an excellent point.
- With crafts moving
1380
01:04:00,906 --> 01:04:02,493
through the air
without sonic booms
1381
01:04:02,528 --> 01:04:04,150
or moving through
water without splashes.
1382
01:04:04,185 --> 01:04:05,818
We observed that.
- That's the other counter
1383
01:04:05,842 --> 01:04:07,482
that's always given.
- That's always data.
1384
01:04:09,052 --> 01:04:11,951
- We made it guys, we
got a lot of great data,
1385
01:04:11,986 --> 01:04:13,884
and I just wanted to
let you guys know,
1386
01:04:15,196 --> 01:04:17,646
I'm very proud of the way
that you guys have performed
1387
01:04:17,681 --> 01:04:20,857
above and beyond
any expectations I
could have ever had.
1388
01:04:22,099 --> 01:04:25,378
We got some great results,
and let's start getting ready
1389
01:04:25,413 --> 01:04:26,966
for the next one.
1390
01:04:31,937 --> 01:04:36,976
- The past days have been
very hard and very exciting.
1391
01:04:37,011 --> 01:04:40,497
We managed to capture
multiple anomalies
1392
01:04:40,531 --> 01:04:45,536
in multiple locations, across
multiple devices in real time.
1393
01:04:46,710 --> 01:04:49,644
This is a first in
the field of ufology.
1394
01:04:49,678 --> 01:04:51,577
What are the odds
that we would capture
1395
01:04:51,611 --> 01:04:53,993
the exact Navy Tic Tacs
1396
01:04:54,028 --> 01:04:57,755
that these guys saw
over their ship in 2004?
1397
01:04:57,790 --> 01:05:00,897
Now it's up to the scientists
to continue analyzing
1398
01:05:00,931 --> 01:05:04,728
the data over the next few
weeks, and tell us more
1399
01:05:04,762 --> 01:05:07,006
about the properties
of these objects
1400
01:05:07,041 --> 01:05:10,561
and what this phenomenon
is really about.
1401
01:05:28,234 --> 01:05:28,994
- That's right.
1402
01:05:29,028 --> 01:05:30,996
- Hey guys, we made it.
1403
01:05:31,030 --> 01:05:32,480
- Hey, glad You're here.
1404
01:05:32,514 --> 01:05:33,940
You're gonna need to
sit down for this,
1405
01:05:33,964 --> 01:05:35,148
'cause it's pretty mind blowing.
1406
01:05:35,172 --> 01:05:36,587
- Wow.
- So grab a seat.
1407
01:05:36,622 --> 01:05:38,520
- Okay, we want anomalies.
1408
01:05:38,555 --> 01:05:39,763
Is this very different?
1409
01:05:39,797 --> 01:05:42,110
- Yeah, and the story
starts with a list
1410
01:05:42,145 --> 01:05:45,044
of anomalous events
in the cosmic watch.
1411
01:05:45,079 --> 01:05:48,392
So I made a list of
all events that were
1412
01:05:48,427 --> 01:05:52,086
either high in energy,
high in rate or both.
1413
01:05:52,120 --> 01:05:57,125
So the highest energy we
recorded in the cosmic watch
1414
01:05:58,782 --> 01:06:03,787
was 43.37 mega
electron volts, MeV.
1415
01:06:05,064 --> 01:06:06,662
So that's the highest we
recorded the entire week.
1416
01:06:06,686 --> 01:06:09,482
It's sort of like the maximum
for terrestrial radiation,
1417
01:06:09,517 --> 01:06:11,622
Two MeVs more, average.
1418
01:06:11,657 --> 01:06:13,141
- Oh wow.
1419
01:06:13,176 --> 01:06:15,016
- That high energy event I
just mentioned was at 4:01 A.M.
1420
01:06:15,040 --> 01:06:16,593
- Right.
1421
01:06:16,627 --> 01:06:20,045
- At 3:59 A.M, this is
what the UFODAP recorded.
1422
01:06:20,079 --> 01:06:22,392
There's a hole in
the clouds, which,
1423
01:06:22,426 --> 01:06:24,635
it's not abnormal to
have a hole in the clouds
1424
01:06:24,670 --> 01:06:29,675
that closes, but notice
those strange dots within it.
1425
01:06:30,883 --> 01:06:33,023
And also if you
go frame by frame,
1426
01:06:33,058 --> 01:06:35,025
it closes in a
fraction of a second.
1427
01:06:35,060 --> 01:06:39,547
That seems to be too fast
for natural cloud formations.
1428
01:06:39,581 --> 01:06:41,549
- For clouds to move
in and close the hole,
1429
01:06:41,583 --> 01:06:42,975
they would've had to
be going something
1430
01:06:42,999 --> 01:06:44,207
like 700 miles an hour.
1431
01:06:44,241 --> 01:06:45,484
- How far away was it?
1432
01:06:45,518 --> 01:06:46,702
- Yeah, I can show
you a diagram,
1433
01:06:46,726 --> 01:06:48,694
I've made of the situation.
1434
01:06:48,728 --> 01:06:50,051
Yeah, so it's
basic trigonometry,
1435
01:06:50,075 --> 01:06:53,112
we're using the known angles,
so we know which direction
1436
01:06:53,147 --> 01:06:57,185
the camera's aiming, we know
the field of view of the camera
1437
01:06:57,220 --> 01:07:02,156
and that hole was about 18
degrees above the horizon.
1438
01:07:02,190 --> 01:07:05,124
And so given a cloud
ceiling of about 1700 feet,
1439
01:07:05,159 --> 01:07:06,884
you can say that that hole was
1440
01:07:06,919 --> 01:07:10,474
about 1.2 kilometers
off the coast.
1441
01:07:10,509 --> 01:07:11,555
And so it's an elliptical hole.
1442
01:07:11,579 --> 01:07:12,476
- Okay.
- It's
1443
01:07:12,511 --> 01:07:15,065
about 0.4 kilometers long,
1444
01:07:15,100 --> 01:07:17,654
and then about 0.1
kilometers wide.
1445
01:07:17,688 --> 01:07:19,966
It looks like it's a
hole in the clouds,
1446
01:07:20,001 --> 01:07:22,072
or it could be a
false streak cloud.
1447
01:07:22,107 --> 01:07:25,075
Those typically
happen when you have
1448
01:07:25,110 --> 01:07:28,078
very high altitude
clouds and a section
1449
01:07:28,113 --> 01:07:31,047
of the cloud that then
spontaneously freezes
1450
01:07:31,081 --> 01:07:32,910
and then the crystals fall out
1451
01:07:32,945 --> 01:07:34,912
and leaves a hole in the cloud.
1452
01:07:34,947 --> 01:07:38,364
That isn't possible in this
case because the cloud ceiling
1453
01:07:38,399 --> 01:07:40,849
was only 1700 feet and
it wasn't cold enough
1454
01:07:40,884 --> 01:07:43,128
for it to be that kind of cloud.
1455
01:07:43,162 --> 01:07:45,751
A hole like that could
also be explained from
1456
01:07:45,785 --> 01:07:49,582
an airplane or another aircraft
flying through the clouds.
1457
01:07:49,617 --> 01:07:51,412
That can cause a hole as well.
1458
01:07:51,446 --> 01:07:53,931
We didn't have any aircraft
going through at the time,
1459
01:07:53,966 --> 01:07:57,694
and the UFODAP cameras
didn't pick up any craft.
1460
01:07:57,728 --> 01:08:00,179
Now the cameras did
start recording because
1461
01:08:00,214 --> 01:08:01,870
they detected something.
1462
01:08:01,905 --> 01:08:06,185
- But when Jeremy slowed it
down, there's also a new dot
1463
01:08:06,220 --> 01:08:08,118
that appears in the
last couple frames.
1464
01:08:08,153 --> 01:08:10,914
Yeah, there are
a few dots appearing, yeah.
1465
01:08:10,948 --> 01:08:12,122
- Yeah, there's one fresh,
1466
01:08:12,157 --> 01:08:15,091
there's one lonely
fresh dot that appears.
1467
01:08:16,264 --> 01:08:17,714
- Did you check
the radiation data
1468
01:08:17,748 --> 01:08:19,854
with any outside organizations?
1469
01:08:19,888 --> 01:08:22,201
- We did, we looked
at the data from Fermi
1470
01:08:22,236 --> 01:08:26,550
the NASA spacecraft that
looks at gamma-ray bursts
1471
01:08:26,585 --> 01:08:28,345
from distant
astrophysical phenomenon,
1472
01:08:28,380 --> 01:08:30,175
there's no correlation there.
1473
01:08:30,209 --> 01:08:33,868
We did have to check
also for solar activity.
1474
01:08:33,902 --> 01:08:37,941
This event is not correlated
with the solar activity.
1475
01:08:37,975 --> 01:08:40,392
- So what about the FLIR?
1476
01:08:40,426 --> 01:08:42,083
Anything with the FLIR?
1477
01:08:42,118 --> 01:08:45,155
- Unfortunately, the FLIR
about seven minutes before
1478
01:08:45,190 --> 01:08:49,746
this event took place, all
eight FLIR cameras shut down.
1479
01:08:49,780 --> 01:08:51,127
We lost power.
1480
01:08:51,161 --> 01:08:53,750
And power was distributed
from two different sources.
1481
01:08:53,784 --> 01:08:55,141
- I don't think it's
a coincidence though.
1482
01:08:55,165 --> 01:08:57,512
This really bothers me,
'cause it reminds me of
1483
01:08:57,547 --> 01:09:00,791
how the phenomenon
is often associated
1484
01:09:00,826 --> 01:09:04,899
with electromagnetic
anomalies that cause things
1485
01:09:04,933 --> 01:09:08,592
to break, cars to turn
off, and things like that.
1486
01:09:08,627 --> 01:09:13,321
That I think it's
really convenient that
the FLIR went down.
1487
01:09:13,356 --> 01:09:16,945
- How about the people who
would say, well, maybe there's
1488
01:09:16,980 --> 01:09:19,224
something malfunctioning
with the camera?
1489
01:09:19,258 --> 01:09:20,811
What would you say to that?
1490
01:09:20,846 --> 01:09:24,125
- We actually have, several
minutes before the video
1491
01:09:24,160 --> 01:09:27,163
we looked at, we have another
video that doesn't have
1492
01:09:27,197 --> 01:09:30,338
the speckles, but has the
hole, several minutes before,
1493
01:09:30,373 --> 01:09:34,031
but then even better, we
have the entire week's worth
1494
01:09:34,066 --> 01:09:37,138
of UFODAP video and imagery,
1495
01:09:37,173 --> 01:09:39,313
where it's
functioning perfectly.
1496
01:09:39,347 --> 01:09:42,212
It's triggering on birds,
it's triggering on planes,
1497
01:09:42,247 --> 01:09:45,181
and it even has a built-in
classification system
1498
01:09:45,215 --> 01:09:47,010
where it says
percentage probability,
1499
01:09:47,044 --> 01:09:48,460
it's a plane or a bird.
1500
01:09:48,494 --> 01:09:52,326
Not only that, we also
have direct controls
1501
01:09:52,360 --> 01:09:56,813
from a nearly identical part
of the sky, day and time,
1502
01:09:56,847 --> 01:09:58,435
no hole, just clouds
1503
01:09:58,470 --> 01:10:01,024
and the cameras functioning
perfectly normally.
1504
01:10:01,058 --> 01:10:04,821
So there's just too many
strange coincidences here,
1505
01:10:04,855 --> 01:10:07,651
with all the different
events that stack together.
1506
01:10:07,686 --> 01:10:10,344
I mean, it's really easy
to take one video and say
1507
01:10:10,378 --> 01:10:13,001
it's this or that, or it's
not really anomalous 'cause
1508
01:10:13,036 --> 01:10:15,487
it can be anything, but
it can't be anything.
1509
01:10:15,521 --> 01:10:17,247
Because we've done
these calculations,
1510
01:10:17,282 --> 01:10:19,145
and we have these correlations.
1511
01:10:19,180 --> 01:10:20,260
So it's extremely unlikely
1512
01:10:20,285 --> 01:10:22,494
that it was a malfunction
in the camera.
1513
01:10:22,528 --> 01:10:24,392
- Was there any
correlative data with
1514
01:10:24,427 --> 01:10:26,808
like weather radar or
anything like that?
1515
01:10:26,843 --> 01:10:29,466
- Yeah, we were able
to obtain weather radar
1516
01:10:29,501 --> 01:10:33,263
just before four o'clock,
you see a large clump
1517
01:10:33,298 --> 01:10:36,715
of area where you have
a lot of turbulence,
1518
01:10:36,749 --> 01:10:40,891
and so this is correlated with
the presence of that hole.
1519
01:10:40,926 --> 01:10:42,272
The radar shows that there
1520
01:10:42,307 --> 01:10:45,517
was actually reflective
objects in the area.
1521
01:10:45,551 --> 01:10:48,105
High energy particles in
gamma-rays would've bombarded
1522
01:10:48,140 --> 01:10:51,247
the entire CCD chip on the
camera, resulting in spots,
1523
01:10:51,281 --> 01:10:53,525
uniformly spread
across the image.
1524
01:10:53,559 --> 01:10:55,906
As a result, these really
appear to be physical objects
1525
01:10:55,941 --> 01:10:57,460
somehow appearing
or materializing
1526
01:10:57,494 --> 01:10:59,427
in the hole in the clouds.
1527
01:10:59,462 --> 01:11:02,154
The radar returns suggests
that we are seeing the objects
1528
01:11:02,188 --> 01:11:03,983
through the hole in the
clouds at a distance
1529
01:11:04,018 --> 01:11:06,054
of about five kilometers away.
1530
01:11:06,089 --> 01:11:10,093
Thus, the objects are most
likely about 35 to 50 defeat
1531
01:11:10,127 --> 01:11:14,373
in size, which is the estimated
size of the Tic Tac objects
1532
01:11:14,408 --> 01:11:16,479
in the 2004 Nimitz encounter.
1533
01:11:16,513 --> 01:11:17,513
Wow.
1534
01:11:19,067 --> 01:11:23,106
- If you have something
anomalous in different devices
1535
01:11:23,140 --> 01:11:27,283
at the same time, that
reduces the probability.
1536
01:11:27,317 --> 01:11:31,287
This is why for example, I've
never bought to the claims
1537
01:11:31,321 --> 01:11:34,359
that the, "Oh, the Nimitz
encounter, that was just,
1538
01:11:34,393 --> 01:11:35,705
the radar didn't work."
1539
01:11:35,739 --> 01:11:39,018
So then the pilot's eyes
were also deceiving them
1540
01:11:39,053 --> 01:11:42,919
at the exact same time the
radar wasn't working properly?
1541
01:11:42,953 --> 01:11:45,266
And the radar wasn't
working properly
1542
01:11:45,301 --> 01:11:47,751
at the exact same time
the FLIR cameras wasn't.
1543
01:11:47,786 --> 01:11:52,722
It's just so absurd to
claim that multiple devices
1544
01:11:52,756 --> 01:11:55,207
and multiple different
imaging modalities
1545
01:11:55,241 --> 01:11:59,211
were all conveniently
malfunctioning at the same time,
1546
01:11:59,245 --> 01:12:01,247
telling you the same thing?
1547
01:12:01,282 --> 01:12:02,801
That is absolutely insane.
1548
01:12:02,835 --> 01:12:06,839
- Well with all this,
well, what is it?
1549
01:12:06,874 --> 01:12:10,395
- Because of how it looks
like a hole that is open
1550
01:12:10,429 --> 01:12:13,087
and then closing, we've
called it a wormhole,
1551
01:12:13,121 --> 01:12:16,677
which got me obviously
extremely excited.
1552
01:12:16,711 --> 01:12:18,368
However, we have to
be careful because
1553
01:12:18,403 --> 01:12:21,371
that would be obviously a
major scientific discovery
1554
01:12:21,406 --> 01:12:23,546
that would require a
great deal more evidence
1555
01:12:23,580 --> 01:12:25,375
than what we have.
1556
01:12:25,410 --> 01:12:28,999
Worst case, if it's
not something tied in
1557
01:12:29,034 --> 01:12:31,485
with our main goal,
looking for evidence
1558
01:12:31,519 --> 01:12:34,315
of non-human intelligence,
this is a new phenomenon
1559
01:12:34,350 --> 01:12:36,041
that's no one's ever discovered.
1560
01:12:36,075 --> 01:12:41,080
This is an unidentified,
unclassified new phenomenon.
1561
01:12:42,565 --> 01:12:45,257
We are adding to the UAP,
unidentified.
1562
01:12:45,291 --> 01:12:50,331
- We're adding lexicon
of unidentified objects.
1563
01:12:50,607 --> 01:12:51,884
- Wow.
1564
01:12:51,919 --> 01:12:53,438
- I forgot who it
was who stated,
1565
01:12:53,472 --> 01:12:56,613
"Most scientific discoveries
don't begin with Eureka,
1566
01:12:56,648 --> 01:12:58,201
they begin with, 'Huh'."
1567
01:12:59,029 --> 01:13:00,237
- Exactly.
1568
01:13:00,272 --> 01:13:01,560
That's exactly
what we have here.
1569
01:13:01,584 --> 01:13:04,414
- It's one of those, "Huh,
what the heck is that moment?"
1570
01:13:27,437 --> 01:13:30,475
- I think that interstellar
travel's one of those things
1571
01:13:30,509 --> 01:13:34,271
that is not impossible,
it's just really hard.
1572
01:13:34,306 --> 01:13:35,549
And it's not impossible,
1573
01:13:35,583 --> 01:13:37,999
even with the laws of
physics as we know them.
1574
01:13:38,034 --> 01:13:41,589
What's so fascinating is that
when I was six years old,
1575
01:13:41,624 --> 01:13:44,420
I thought that
wormholes were real,
1576
01:13:44,454 --> 01:13:46,594
for interstellar transportation.
1577
01:13:46,629 --> 01:13:48,665
I called of them
portals at the time.
1578
01:13:48,700 --> 01:13:51,737
They're, what got me dreaming
of becoming a physicist.
1579
01:13:51,772 --> 01:13:55,672
And here we are today, we
are turning science fiction
1580
01:13:55,707 --> 01:13:57,467
into real science.
1581
01:13:57,502 --> 01:13:59,296
We could be heading
towards the biggest,
1582
01:13:59,331 --> 01:14:02,265
"See, I told you
so," in history.
1583
01:14:02,299 --> 01:14:05,579
- In 1935, Einstein wrote
a paper with his student,
1584
01:14:05,613 --> 01:14:10,411
Nathan Rosen, creating
the Einstein-Rosen Bridge,
1585
01:14:10,446 --> 01:14:12,620
a bridge that in
principle could allow you
1586
01:14:12,655 --> 01:14:14,622
to break the light barrier.
1587
01:14:14,657 --> 01:14:18,074
Take a black hole, which
basically looks like a funnel,
1588
01:14:18,108 --> 01:14:20,490
and put two of
them back to back.
1589
01:14:20,525 --> 01:14:23,907
Stick the two funnels together,
and you now have a gateway
1590
01:14:23,942 --> 01:14:25,633
between two universes.
1591
01:14:25,668 --> 01:14:27,324
That would allow
you in principle,
1592
01:14:27,359 --> 01:14:30,224
to go faster than
the speed of light.
1593
01:14:30,258 --> 01:14:32,502
These are wormholes.
1594
01:14:32,537 --> 01:14:33,883
And are they possible?
1595
01:14:33,917 --> 01:14:35,540
Yes, but you would have
1596
01:14:35,574 --> 01:14:38,991
to be a very advanced
civilization to do this.
1597
01:14:39,026 --> 01:14:40,072
- What we're seeing are things
1598
01:14:40,096 --> 01:14:43,306
that I think transient reality,
1599
01:14:43,340 --> 01:14:48,345
I come personally, to an area
of multidimensional realities
1600
01:14:49,485 --> 01:14:52,349
of some kind that cross
over periodically.
1601
01:14:52,384 --> 01:14:56,630
When they are here, the
thing is just as physical,
1602
01:14:56,664 --> 01:15:00,944
when it's crossed over,
it's physically there.
1603
01:15:00,979 --> 01:15:03,222
But when they separate
again, it's not.
1604
01:15:03,257 --> 01:15:06,156
So when you ask the
questions, where did it go?
1605
01:15:06,191 --> 01:15:08,642
Where, is not even
the right question.
1606
01:15:08,676 --> 01:15:11,748
But it's very hard for
us to contemplate things
1607
01:15:11,783 --> 01:15:14,648
that precipitate
into physical reality
1608
01:15:15,614 --> 01:15:18,548
and then dissipate into
apparent nothingness.
1609
01:15:18,583 --> 01:15:20,861
There's got to be other
life forms out there,
1610
01:15:20,895 --> 01:15:24,381
it's my view that there
are multiple phenomena
1611
01:15:24,416 --> 01:15:26,625
that are all interrelated.
1612
01:15:28,420 --> 01:15:30,940
- At the end of the day,
we're trying to understand
1613
01:15:30,974 --> 01:15:33,011
the nature of our reality.
1614
01:15:33,045 --> 01:15:37,015
How things could be
possible when they seem
1615
01:15:37,049 --> 01:15:40,570
to defy the laws of physics,
as we know them today.
1616
01:15:40,605 --> 01:15:44,332
Our consciousness is
entangled with space itself,
1617
01:15:44,367 --> 01:15:46,611
with everything that we witness.
1618
01:15:46,645 --> 01:15:49,683
But we can't deny an
experience once we have it.
1619
01:15:49,717 --> 01:15:52,824
So perhaps our fascination
with the mystery of UAPs,
1620
01:15:52,858 --> 01:15:57,035
could these be an
extraterrestrial life
form visiting us?
1621
01:15:57,069 --> 01:15:58,692
How are they getting here?
1622
01:15:58,726 --> 01:16:03,110
It is perhaps a way for us to
understand who we really are,
1623
01:16:03,144 --> 01:16:06,734
how we fit within
the bigger picture
1624
01:16:06,769 --> 01:16:10,151
in the cosmic map
of the universe.
1625
01:16:10,186 --> 01:16:12,602
- What's a few thousand
years to a galaxy
1626
01:16:12,637 --> 01:16:14,259
that is billions of years old?
1627
01:16:14,293 --> 01:16:17,711
There's other civilizations
that could be millions
1628
01:16:17,745 --> 01:16:21,749
of years ahead of us, or perhaps
millions of years behind.
1629
01:16:21,784 --> 01:16:24,614
That's the scale of the galaxy.
1630
01:16:24,649 --> 01:16:28,514
And that's why I believe
they're out there.
1631
01:16:28,549 --> 01:16:31,103
And possibly even here.
1632
01:16:31,138 --> 01:16:32,898
Our main problem is that
1633
01:16:32,933 --> 01:16:36,592
we assume they're just
as primitive as we are.
1634
01:16:36,626 --> 01:16:39,249
They can digitize
their consciousness
1635
01:16:39,284 --> 01:16:42,701
and put it on a laser beam,
and shoot the laser beam
1636
01:16:42,736 --> 01:16:44,461
at the speed of light.
1637
01:16:44,496 --> 01:16:48,914
What's at stake is our
understanding of reality itself.
1638
01:16:48,949 --> 01:16:53,781
Our worldview could shatter
with one credible incident
1639
01:16:53,816 --> 01:16:57,233
that cannot be refuted.
1640
01:16:57,267 --> 01:16:59,280
- The only explanation that
makes any sense is that
1641
01:16:59,304 --> 01:17:02,031
there's something of
higher intelligence
1642
01:17:02,065 --> 01:17:05,137
that's got advancement
over our technology.
1643
01:17:05,172 --> 01:17:07,657
I think it's gonna change
things of the world,
1644
01:17:07,692 --> 01:17:10,971
people are gonna understand
there's something out there
1645
01:17:11,005 --> 01:17:14,630
that isn't us, it
isn't harming us,
1646
01:17:14,664 --> 01:17:16,666
and we can learn from it.
1647
01:17:16,701 --> 01:17:18,392
This is a paradigm shift.
1648
01:17:20,739 --> 01:17:21,637
- Hi Bill?
1649
01:17:21,671 --> 01:17:22,707
- Hi.
1650
01:17:22,741 --> 01:17:23,984
- Good to see you again.
1651
01:17:24,018 --> 01:17:26,503
- I know I'm so looking
forward to what you have have.
1652
01:17:26,538 --> 01:17:27,815
- Oh my God.
1653
01:17:27,850 --> 01:17:28,678
- Oh, really?
1654
01:17:28,713 --> 01:17:30,680
- Crazy.
- That crazy?
1655
01:17:30,715 --> 01:17:31,612
- It's crazy.
1656
01:17:31,647 --> 01:17:33,821
- Don't waste another instance.
1657
01:17:33,856 --> 01:17:36,652
I need to see which
you've got there.
1658
01:17:36,686 --> 01:17:39,827
- Okay, I've shown you some
things before that we found,
1659
01:17:39,862 --> 01:17:41,829
that we're very,
very interesting.
1660
01:17:41,864 --> 01:17:42,934
- Yeah.
1661
01:17:42,968 --> 01:17:44,739
It's not a bird, it's not
a plane, it's not a blends-
1662
01:17:44,763 --> 01:17:46,834
- It's superman!
1663
01:17:46,869 --> 01:17:51,632
I mean, that has
definitely been identified.
1664
01:17:51,667 --> 01:17:53,807
- I can't tell you
how excited I am
1665
01:17:53,841 --> 01:17:54,670
to look at what you've got.
1666
01:17:54,704 --> 01:17:56,154
- It's incredible.
1667
01:17:56,188 --> 01:17:59,226
So keep your eye on
this side of the frame.
1668
01:18:01,815 --> 01:18:03,255
- Yeah it's darker.
- You see that?
1669
01:18:07,027 --> 01:18:09,374
- And then lightens
up, and disappears.
1670
01:18:10,755 --> 01:18:11,790
- Uh-huh.
1671
01:18:15,863 --> 01:18:17,865
- Crazy!
1672
01:18:20,730 --> 01:18:22,456
It isn't crazy, it's crazy.
1673
01:18:22,490 --> 01:18:23,837
It's crazy.
1674
01:18:23,871 --> 01:18:25,701
- It's insane.
1675
01:18:25,735 --> 01:18:28,289
- Did anybody else analyze that?
1676
01:18:28,324 --> 01:18:29,843
- Everyone.
1677
01:18:29,877 --> 01:18:32,604
Don't forget, our scientists
have taken all the data
1678
01:18:32,638 --> 01:18:35,503
for eight weeks
nonstop, looking into
1679
01:18:35,538 --> 01:18:38,196
what could this possibly be?
1680
01:18:38,230 --> 01:18:41,717
This is radiation
emission, and look at that.
1681
01:18:41,751 --> 01:18:42,752
- And there is a-
1682
01:18:42,787 --> 01:18:44,685
- Huge burst.
1683
01:18:44,720 --> 01:18:46,307
- Incredible!
1684
01:18:46,342 --> 01:18:49,897
- Exactly, of 43.37,
that happens exactly
at the same time,
1685
01:18:52,210 --> 01:18:57,215
as that opening and closing,
then it correlates with radar.
1686
01:18:59,700 --> 01:19:00,908
- Right.
- They saw
1687
01:19:00,943 --> 01:19:03,808
this cluster that
happens to be exactly
1688
01:19:03,842 --> 01:19:08,329
in the location of that anomaly.
1689
01:19:08,364 --> 01:19:09,710
So-
1690
01:19:09,745 --> 01:19:11,608
- Okay, so you've got a
spike in the radiation,
1691
01:19:11,643 --> 01:19:12,920
you've got a figure.
1692
01:19:12,955 --> 01:19:16,096
So what you're saying
is that it's amorphous,
1693
01:19:16,130 --> 01:19:18,788
it opens and closes
and contracts,
1694
01:19:18,823 --> 01:19:21,722
so it's nothing like we know.
1695
01:19:21,757 --> 01:19:23,689
It's nothing that
is human knowledge.
1696
01:19:23,724 --> 01:19:24,794
- Exactly.
1697
01:19:24,829 --> 01:19:25,761
- Reporting at
something and saying,
1698
01:19:25,795 --> 01:19:28,384
how mysterious our world is.
1699
01:19:28,418 --> 01:19:32,181
- This is what we
think could be,
1700
01:19:32,215 --> 01:19:33,285
- Okay.
1701
01:19:33,320 --> 01:19:34,459
- A wormhole.
1702
01:19:34,493 --> 01:19:37,289
Some sort of gateway,
some sort of-
1703
01:19:37,324 --> 01:19:38,946
- Wait a minute, wait a minute.
1704
01:19:38,981 --> 01:19:40,810
It's expanding and contracting?
1705
01:19:40,845 --> 01:19:41,811
- Yeah.
1706
01:19:41,846 --> 01:19:44,227
- Well a wormhole is
a separation in time.
1707
01:19:44,262 --> 01:19:44,987
- Yes.
1708
01:19:45,021 --> 01:19:46,298
- Right?
1709
01:19:46,333 --> 01:19:48,035
And so that you can go
through this separation,
1710
01:19:48,059 --> 01:19:50,268
you can go into
another time zone.
1711
01:19:50,302 --> 01:19:53,236
- That is what the
scientists are investigating.
1712
01:19:53,271 --> 01:19:56,757
That has never been
explored before in this way
1713
01:19:56,792 --> 01:19:59,311
and recorded and measured.
1714
01:19:59,346 --> 01:20:00,461
- I think this that's wonderful.
1715
01:20:00,485 --> 01:20:01,451
- Yeah, yeah.
1716
01:20:01,486 --> 01:20:02,487
- I think it's glorious.
1717
01:20:02,521 --> 01:20:03,833
- Yes.
- That you've gone to
1718
01:20:03,868 --> 01:20:07,837
all this time and expense,
to look at phenomena,
1719
01:20:07,872 --> 01:20:10,153
that we don't know anything
about, trying to measure it.
1720
01:20:10,184 --> 01:20:11,254
That's great.
1721
01:20:12,635 --> 01:20:14,395
That's just wonderful
that you're doing that.
1722
01:20:15,293 --> 01:20:20,125
- I hope that with our
endeavors out here,
1723
01:20:20,160 --> 01:20:24,164
that people will see that
we can research this stuff
1724
01:20:24,198 --> 01:20:28,996
without negative
consequences, and we can know
1725
01:20:29,031 --> 01:20:32,103
what these things are, and
I hope that in the future,
1726
01:20:32,137 --> 01:20:35,106
that people will come together.
1727
01:20:35,140 --> 01:20:38,488
- It took a lot of work to
get to the end of this thing.
1728
01:20:38,523 --> 01:20:41,837
At this moment, having
proved what we did,
1729
01:20:41,871 --> 01:20:45,357
and to be successful, its
hard for me to find in words.
1730
01:20:46,980 --> 01:20:51,985
I feel paid back and
we changed the world.
1731
01:20:54,401 --> 01:20:57,542
- They went above and
beyond my expectations.
1732
01:20:57,576 --> 01:21:01,580
They supported each other,
they took care of any problems
1733
01:21:01,615 --> 01:21:06,516
and I just can't say
anything other than,
1734
01:21:07,863 --> 01:21:10,520
they're absolutely
amazing people.
1735
01:21:10,555 --> 01:21:12,971
- I've never seen anything
like that before, ever.
1736
01:21:13,006 --> 01:21:15,422
It was something out
of a movie almost.
1737
01:21:15,456 --> 01:21:16,882
And the fact that
it wasn't military,
1738
01:21:16,906 --> 01:21:18,459
that it wasn't government,
1739
01:21:18,494 --> 01:21:23,050
the fact that it was normal
people seeking answers,
1740
01:21:23,085 --> 01:21:24,741
I love that also.
1741
01:21:24,776 --> 01:21:26,398
Because they're accessible.
1742
01:21:26,433 --> 01:21:28,228
The government will
always classify data,
1743
01:21:28,262 --> 01:21:30,506
the government will always
hide data obviously,
1744
01:21:30,540 --> 01:21:32,094
but boom, there it is.
1745
01:21:32,128 --> 01:21:36,201
It's on a roof in California.
1746
01:21:37,030 --> 01:21:38,548
- Incredible scientists
1747
01:21:38,583 --> 01:21:40,999
are doing incredible
scientific experimentation
1748
01:21:41,034 --> 01:21:46,039
and research, to see if there's
more to this UAP phenomena,
1749
01:21:47,281 --> 01:21:49,766
and it's gonna change
the culture in the world.
1750
01:21:49,801 --> 01:21:51,192
Scientists are gonna
have to start taking
1751
01:21:51,216 --> 01:21:52,873
this more seriously,
1752
01:21:52,908 --> 01:21:55,220
if we're gonna get to the
bottom of the phenomenon.
1753
01:21:55,255 --> 01:21:58,534
- And indeed we found
evidence of strange events
1754
01:21:58,568 --> 01:22:00,432
that you can't explain away.
1755
01:22:00,467 --> 01:22:01,778
You're not gonna tell me
1756
01:22:01,813 --> 01:22:03,988
you have a radioactive
bird or plane.
1757
01:22:04,022 --> 01:22:05,713
That's complete nonsense.
1758
01:22:05,748 --> 01:22:07,888
This phenomenon, whatever it is,
1759
01:22:07,923 --> 01:22:12,134
it's not a hoax and not
an optical illusion.
1760
01:22:12,168 --> 01:22:15,309
- We have legitimate anomalies.
1761
01:22:15,344 --> 01:22:20,314
The next step in our jobs
is to continue analyzing
1762
01:22:21,695 --> 01:22:24,422
the nature and the
properties of these objects.
1763
01:22:24,456 --> 01:22:27,218
So that someday we
can finally make
1764
01:22:27,252 --> 01:22:29,945
some definitive
conclusions about
1765
01:22:29,979 --> 01:22:33,224
what this phenomenon
is really about.
1766
01:22:33,258 --> 01:22:38,263
Is it natural, manmade
or not of this earth?
1767
01:22:39,471 --> 01:22:42,647
- I believe we started
something very important
1768
01:22:42,681 --> 01:22:45,270
in the field of UAP research.
1769
01:22:45,305 --> 01:22:50,068
If we discover the wormhole,
a portal, a star gate
1770
01:22:50,103 --> 01:22:53,899
of some sort to other
realities, or perhaps for now,
1771
01:22:53,934 --> 01:22:58,111
we can just call it
a tear in the sky.
1772
01:23:08,017 --> 01:23:09,270
- Definitely some stuff going on
1773
01:23:09,294 --> 01:23:10,778
that we don't know
about, for sure.
1774
01:23:10,813 --> 01:23:12,746
- I think there's other
beings on other planets
1775
01:23:12,780 --> 01:23:14,023
that have visited us.
1776
01:23:14,058 --> 01:23:15,991
- No, I think no one's
told us they visited us,
1777
01:23:16,025 --> 01:23:17,578
because we'd be scared.
1778
01:23:17,613 --> 01:23:19,511
- Some things, were
not supposed to know.
1779
01:23:19,546 --> 01:23:21,041
- That's why they
keep it a big secret,
1780
01:23:21,065 --> 01:23:22,756
that's why there's a conspiracy.
1781
01:23:22,790 --> 01:23:24,792
- Because they're way
smarter than we are.
1782
01:23:24,827 --> 01:23:26,104
- No one's ready.
1783
01:23:26,139 --> 01:23:28,175
- They probably don't
really wanna be associated
1784
01:23:28,210 --> 01:23:29,556
with a bunch of morons.
1785
01:23:29,590 --> 01:23:32,421
- They're definitely on some
science that we're not at yet.
1786
01:23:32,455 --> 01:23:35,010
- Yeah, if anything,
we've taken from them.
1787
01:23:35,044 --> 01:23:37,288
- They might be ahead
of us or behind us.
1788
01:23:37,322 --> 01:23:38,530
We never know.
1789
01:23:38,565 --> 01:23:41,085
- Probably they
have the iPhone 21.
1790
01:23:41,119 --> 01:23:42,810
They're just waiting
till the time
1791
01:23:42,845 --> 01:23:44,847
to give that
information to Apple.
1792
01:23:44,881 --> 01:23:46,090
- If hypothetically,
1793
01:23:46,124 --> 01:23:47,056
- Yes?
1794
01:23:47,091 --> 01:23:48,920
- A spaceship would
land right now.
1795
01:23:48,954 --> 01:23:50,025
- Yes.
1796
01:23:50,059 --> 01:23:51,312
- And an extraterrestrial
would say,
1797
01:23:51,336 --> 01:23:53,338
"Hey Bill, come
on board with me."
1798
01:23:53,373 --> 01:23:54,615
- I would love to.
1799
01:23:54,650 --> 01:23:57,204
I would embrace that
and say, "Come in peace.
1800
01:23:57,239 --> 01:23:58,205
We live in peace.
1801
01:23:58,240 --> 01:23:59,137
We want knowledge."
1802
01:23:59,172 --> 01:24:01,484
And I'd go into the spaceship
1803
01:24:01,519 --> 01:24:04,349
and let them give me a baby.
1804
01:24:04,384 --> 01:24:08,181
Oh, I love that.
1805
01:24:08,215 --> 01:24:12,012
- The next time you
are kidnapped by an
alien civilization,
1806
01:24:12,047 --> 01:24:14,359
for God's sake, steal something.
1807
01:24:14,394 --> 01:24:18,363
An alien hammer, an alien
pencil, an alien paperweight.
1808
01:24:18,398 --> 01:24:20,227
There's no law against stealing
1809
01:24:20,262 --> 01:24:22,229
from an extraterrestrial
civilization.
1810
01:24:22,264 --> 01:24:25,129
You're not gonna go to
jail, and you'll have proof,
1811
01:24:25,163 --> 01:24:29,305
living proof that you've
been in that flying saucer.
1812
01:24:29,340 --> 01:24:32,205
- I think it's extraordinary
that you've spent your time
1813
01:24:32,239 --> 01:24:33,896
and your money doing that.
1814
01:24:33,930 --> 01:24:38,211
If we could explain something
that humans don't understand,
1815
01:24:38,245 --> 01:24:42,560
and we have a valid certified
explanation of something
1816
01:24:42,594 --> 01:24:46,253
that has been a mystery,
and no longer is a mystery,
1817
01:24:46,288 --> 01:24:51,155
that only adds to this
textbook of knowledge
1818
01:24:51,189 --> 01:24:54,917
that human beings are
striving every day to fill.
1819
01:24:54,951 --> 01:24:57,299
And if you can fill
that with one sentence,
1820
01:24:57,333 --> 01:25:01,234
let alone a chapter,
it would be wondrous.
1821
01:25:01,268 --> 01:25:06,273
And I am filled with joy that
you're making these forays
1822
01:25:08,241 --> 01:25:11,589
out into the stuff
we see and don't see,
1823
01:25:11,623 --> 01:25:13,625
and trying to find
an explanation.
1824
01:25:13,660 --> 01:25:16,973
That's wonderful,
and I wish you well.
1825
01:25:17,008 --> 01:25:18,078
- Thank you.
1826
01:25:20,691 --> 01:25:22,691
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