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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:27,268 --> 00:00:28,821 - Looking up in the sky, 2 00:00:28,856 --> 00:00:33,343 and it was three white lines, vertical. 3 00:00:33,378 --> 00:00:35,863 There was one that always stayed away from it. 4 00:00:35,897 --> 00:00:38,072 - I don't know what I saw. 5 00:00:38,107 --> 00:00:41,213 - Blip in the sky, streak of light. 6 00:00:41,248 --> 00:00:44,113 - Dark, hovering object above a bridge 7 00:00:44,147 --> 00:00:47,185 that we were coming back from, and it almost looked like a- 8 00:00:47,219 --> 00:00:52,017 - This weird, kind of amorphous, opalescent kind of thing. 9 00:00:52,052 --> 00:00:55,193 - An unidentified object, it was coming in very fast. 10 00:00:55,227 --> 00:00:58,230 - It was staying perfectly still and stationary in the sky 11 00:00:58,265 --> 00:01:01,199 for about four to five minutes, until it started to move. 12 00:01:01,233 --> 00:01:04,547 - And it was so distraughtful, and it was really wicked. 13 00:01:04,581 --> 00:01:06,204 To this day, I don't know what it is. 14 00:01:06,238 --> 00:01:11,209 - Made a hard right turn, went up like 90 degrees. 15 00:01:12,451 --> 00:01:13,842 They figured that it was traveling 16 00:01:13,866 --> 00:01:15,154 at something like 800 miles an hour. 17 00:01:15,178 --> 00:01:16,466 - And then they changed formation. 18 00:01:16,490 --> 00:01:18,906 At first, it was vertical, then it went lateral, 19 00:01:18,940 --> 00:01:22,220 and then they changed to like a rectangle shape. 20 00:01:22,254 --> 00:01:24,912 But that one always stayed away from the others. 21 00:01:39,789 --> 00:01:41,791 - I started out at a very young age, 22 00:01:41,825 --> 00:01:44,207 witnessing anomalous events, such as UFOs. 23 00:01:45,967 --> 00:01:48,798 And that's what got me interested in a field of ufology. 24 00:01:48,832 --> 00:01:51,973 I became a researcher and a speaker. 25 00:01:52,008 --> 00:01:55,287 Throughout the years, I have come a cross hundreds 26 00:01:55,322 --> 00:01:59,291 of people from all walks of life, from all around the world, 27 00:01:59,326 --> 00:02:04,331 who also have had similar experiences, witnessing UFOs. 28 00:02:05,159 --> 00:02:07,265 And so this phenomenon is not new. 29 00:02:07,299 --> 00:02:10,268 It's very old, and very widespread. 30 00:02:10,302 --> 00:02:14,582 Yet, this entire subject has been lacking credibility 31 00:02:14,617 --> 00:02:16,136 and acceptance from society, 32 00:02:16,170 --> 00:02:18,690 but also from the establishment. 33 00:02:18,724 --> 00:02:23,764 And it wasn't until 2017 when "The New York Times" came out 34 00:02:25,214 --> 00:02:27,285 with an article featuring three leaked videos 35 00:02:27,319 --> 00:02:32,117 from the US Navy that totally defied explanation, 36 00:02:32,152 --> 00:02:35,534 that the conversation began to shift. 37 00:02:35,569 --> 00:02:38,606 Got it, woo hoo! 38 00:02:38,641 --> 00:02:41,851 Roger there's something shooting- 39 00:02:41,885 --> 00:02:43,139 - We're going against the wind. 40 00:02:43,163 --> 00:02:45,199 The wind's 120 miles to the west. 41 00:02:45,234 --> 00:02:47,719 Well, if there's- - Look at this thing. 42 00:02:47,753 --> 00:02:49,238 - It's rotating. 43 00:02:49,272 --> 00:02:52,344 There's a whole fleet of them, look on 44 00:02:52,379 --> 00:02:53,379 My gosh! 45 00:02:55,727 --> 00:02:58,178 - On USS Princeton, I was responsible 46 00:02:58,212 --> 00:03:02,699 for classified material, top secret data recording. 47 00:03:02,734 --> 00:03:05,702 In November in 2004, we were doing workups 48 00:03:05,737 --> 00:03:08,878 in preparation for our next deployment. 49 00:03:08,912 --> 00:03:11,191 - I was on the USS Princeton, 50 00:03:11,225 --> 00:03:13,020 I was the leading operation specialist, 51 00:03:13,054 --> 00:03:14,642 and basically we'd control the radars, 52 00:03:14,677 --> 00:03:15,988 we'd man the radars, 53 00:03:16,023 --> 00:03:18,025 we'd fight the ship if we ever go to combat. 54 00:03:18,059 --> 00:03:20,165 My primary job was to identify everything 55 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:21,201 that flew in the sky. 56 00:03:22,374 --> 00:03:26,067 On November 10th, I started to notice 57 00:03:26,102 --> 00:03:28,218 some really strange contacts off the coast of Catalina. 58 00:03:28,242 --> 00:03:29,692 - During those workups, 59 00:03:29,726 --> 00:03:32,591 we tracked unknown aircraft for several days. 60 00:03:32,626 --> 00:03:35,560 - This is the contacts, we're at 28,000 feet going South 61 00:03:35,594 --> 00:03:37,734 about 100 knots, and I'm thinking to myself, 62 00:03:37,769 --> 00:03:39,056 "I never seen anything fly like that." 63 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:42,532 And I had 15 and a half years actual sea time, 64 00:03:42,567 --> 00:03:43,913 sitting behind that radar. 65 00:03:43,947 --> 00:03:46,260 At one point it was raining UFOs. 66 00:03:46,295 --> 00:03:48,262 But I'd never seen anything fly like this, 67 00:03:48,297 --> 00:03:50,264 and all the other ships are tracking it too. 68 00:03:50,299 --> 00:03:52,715 Fast Eagle flight happened to be airborne, 69 00:03:52,749 --> 00:03:54,244 Commander Fravor, the first one to launch off 70 00:03:54,268 --> 00:03:56,097 the Nimitz aircraft carrier. 71 00:03:56,132 --> 00:03:58,548 These objects fell out. 72 00:03:58,583 --> 00:04:01,275 These things went straight back up to 28,000 feet again 73 00:04:01,310 --> 00:04:04,244 in less than a second, and then at the very end, 74 00:04:04,278 --> 00:04:05,438 it was right in front of him. 75 00:04:07,074 --> 00:04:08,524 Disappeared. 76 00:04:08,558 --> 00:04:11,561 - They exhibited flight capabilities that were well beyond 77 00:04:11,596 --> 00:04:13,632 anything that I'd ever seen before. 78 00:04:13,667 --> 00:04:15,289 So I'm pretty familiar with just 79 00:04:15,324 --> 00:04:18,913 about the fastest things in the sky, and these things 80 00:04:18,948 --> 00:04:21,399 kinda made them look like they're toys. 81 00:04:23,297 --> 00:04:27,232 - Because these videos were taken by military servicemen, 82 00:04:27,267 --> 00:04:31,305 the Navy and the Pentagon eventually confirmed 83 00:04:31,340 --> 00:04:33,411 the veracity of these sightings. 84 00:04:33,445 --> 00:04:37,794 Senator Reid, Senator Rubio, and others prompted Congress 85 00:04:37,829 --> 00:04:39,382 to investigate these events, 86 00:04:39,417 --> 00:04:43,213 and publish an official report on these findings. 87 00:04:43,248 --> 00:04:46,665 Even though multiple credible cases were investigated, 88 00:04:46,700 --> 00:04:51,394 the UAP report, "Unidentified Aerial Phenomena" 89 00:04:51,429 --> 00:04:54,984 turned out to inconclusive, which unfortunately, 90 00:04:55,018 --> 00:04:58,332 did not surprise many of us in the UFO community. 91 00:04:58,367 --> 00:04:59,747 - When you don't know what it is, 92 00:04:59,782 --> 00:05:03,406 of course nothing can be conclusively ruled out. 93 00:05:03,441 --> 00:05:05,581 - Can they come up with any explanation? 94 00:05:05,615 --> 00:05:07,376 - Really just a fraction of evidence 95 00:05:07,410 --> 00:05:09,309 the government has on UFOs. 96 00:05:09,343 --> 00:05:12,415 - What does the US government know about UFOs? 97 00:05:12,450 --> 00:05:14,900 - Had that bombshell not come out in "The New York Times", 98 00:05:14,935 --> 00:05:18,490 and "Politico," and CNN, we wouldn't be where we are today. 99 00:05:18,525 --> 00:05:21,148 The Pentagon has not been forthcoming at all. 100 00:05:21,182 --> 00:05:23,357 They have been a huge pain in the ass 101 00:05:23,392 --> 00:05:25,601 regarding this topic, massively. 102 00:05:25,635 --> 00:05:28,293 And what's really needed with this topic, 103 00:05:28,328 --> 00:05:30,364 real evidence, real data. 104 00:05:30,399 --> 00:05:33,160 However long it takes, that's the stuff 105 00:05:33,194 --> 00:05:34,886 that becomes fool proof. 106 00:05:36,405 --> 00:05:38,452 - The next morning I get up, I say, "What the heck? 107 00:05:38,476 --> 00:05:40,685 I'm gonna write a very detailed message 108 00:05:40,719 --> 00:05:42,031 about what happened." 109 00:05:42,065 --> 00:05:44,723 I went back up to combat information center, CIC, 110 00:05:44,758 --> 00:05:48,140 and one of the lead technicians, he looks at me and says, 111 00:05:48,175 --> 00:05:51,281 "Senior Chief, the data isn't on the ship anymore." 112 00:05:51,316 --> 00:05:52,466 I said, "What are you talking about?" 113 00:05:52,490 --> 00:05:54,837 He said, "Somebody came on board our ship, 114 00:05:54,871 --> 00:05:56,494 and they took our data. 115 00:05:56,528 --> 00:06:00,014 In fact, they made us erase everything down 116 00:06:00,049 --> 00:06:01,326 in the computer room." 117 00:06:01,361 --> 00:06:03,466 Even blank tapes had gotten erased. 118 00:06:03,501 --> 00:06:05,986 - We had our data recording for all 119 00:06:06,020 --> 00:06:08,057 of our equipment taken off the ship. 120 00:06:08,091 --> 00:06:10,853 And on top of that we were ordered 121 00:06:10,887 --> 00:06:15,823 to erase everything that was left in the shop. 122 00:06:17,342 --> 00:06:20,621 - And for them to take it, it was highly unusual. 123 00:06:20,656 --> 00:06:22,382 I raised my hand, I said, 124 00:06:22,416 --> 00:06:24,522 "I think we got a safety issue here." 125 00:06:24,556 --> 00:06:26,213 And I would try to describe what happened, 126 00:06:26,247 --> 00:06:27,835 and I got laughed at. 127 00:06:27,870 --> 00:06:30,424 I got ridiculed, there was jokes posted, 128 00:06:30,459 --> 00:06:32,702 there was cartoons posted about me, 129 00:06:32,737 --> 00:06:37,742 and I got so frustrated 130 00:06:41,608 --> 00:06:44,542 it ended my career. 131 00:06:44,576 --> 00:06:48,546 - Some of my shipmates lost careers, lost wives, 132 00:06:48,580 --> 00:06:52,273 lost the ability to be able to see their children. 133 00:06:52,308 --> 00:06:57,140 These are all the consequences of these events 134 00:06:57,175 --> 00:06:59,729 that happened that we were told to not talk about. 135 00:06:59,764 --> 00:07:02,422 - And it was really scary, it was really lonely. 136 00:07:02,456 --> 00:07:06,184 And at one point I ended up, 137 00:07:06,218 --> 00:07:07,703 I didn't know what I was gonna do. 138 00:07:07,737 --> 00:07:11,500 I'd gone through all this pain and suffering, if you will. 139 00:07:13,605 --> 00:07:18,299 - It is unimaginable to think that a UFO encounter 140 00:07:18,334 --> 00:07:20,888 could affect these guys to such a point 141 00:07:20,923 --> 00:07:22,683 that they would lose their careers. 142 00:07:22,718 --> 00:07:25,962 They would lose their personal and social life. 143 00:07:25,997 --> 00:07:28,206 Now I feel even more determined 144 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:31,002 to help find some answers about their experience. 145 00:07:31,036 --> 00:07:33,556 I feel after all these years, 146 00:07:33,591 --> 00:07:36,490 if the government is not officially at a point 147 00:07:36,525 --> 00:07:38,492 where they can offer real answers 148 00:07:38,527 --> 00:07:41,253 to these very widespread sightings, 149 00:07:41,288 --> 00:07:44,912 well, maybe it is up to us to look into the subject. 150 00:07:44,947 --> 00:07:48,433 But from a new scientific perspective, 151 00:07:48,468 --> 00:07:50,573 because that has never been done. 152 00:07:50,608 --> 00:07:52,989 I decided to take on this challenge. 153 00:07:53,024 --> 00:07:56,545 I'm going to find a way to team up with scientists 154 00:07:56,579 --> 00:08:00,134 and experts on this, and see if we can capture 155 00:08:00,169 --> 00:08:04,104 these objects ourselves, and offer some answers. 156 00:08:04,138 --> 00:08:07,210 But first I want to invite someone 157 00:08:07,245 --> 00:08:10,282 that I really, really love, William Shatner. 158 00:08:10,317 --> 00:08:12,526 I met him on multiple projects, 159 00:08:12,561 --> 00:08:16,565 because he is the icon of the sci-fi world. 160 00:08:16,599 --> 00:08:20,051 And he also has been involved in the world of ufology, 161 00:08:20,085 --> 00:08:22,536 and world mysteries for a long time, 162 00:08:22,571 --> 00:08:25,505 I think his insight is going to be fantastic 163 00:08:25,539 --> 00:08:30,130 to help us bridge the gap from sci-fi to real science. 164 00:08:30,164 --> 00:08:32,857 And that'll give us an additional perspective 165 00:08:32,891 --> 00:08:37,896 on what this UFO/UAP phenomenon is really about. 166 00:08:40,589 --> 00:08:45,386 - What has made mankind is an insatiable curiosity. 167 00:08:48,804 --> 00:08:51,910 Insatiable. What is that? 168 00:08:51,945 --> 00:08:53,049 Nobody knows. 169 00:08:54,603 --> 00:08:55,638 A phenomena. 170 00:08:55,673 --> 00:08:58,572 - This time we're talking about UFOs. 171 00:08:58,607 --> 00:09:00,712 The fact that the government is coming up 172 00:09:00,747 --> 00:09:04,613 with all these videos and saying it's real. 173 00:09:04,647 --> 00:09:05,545 - Oh, they're saying it's real? 174 00:09:05,579 --> 00:09:07,581 - Yes. - That it's really 175 00:09:07,616 --> 00:09:10,411 an unidentified flying object. 176 00:09:10,446 --> 00:09:12,828 - Have you seen the UAP report? 177 00:09:12,862 --> 00:09:14,001 - It's inconclusive. 178 00:09:14,036 --> 00:09:15,416 - Exactly. Exactly. 179 00:09:15,451 --> 00:09:17,591 So we're very frustrated- 180 00:09:17,626 --> 00:09:19,593 - But what do you want to see? 181 00:09:19,628 --> 00:09:21,457 - Data. Data. 182 00:09:21,491 --> 00:09:25,703 I think that there were a lot of very credible cases. 183 00:09:25,737 --> 00:09:29,569 Air force pilots, Navy, military, 184 00:09:29,603 --> 00:09:32,675 there are so many of those credible cases 185 00:09:32,710 --> 00:09:34,574 that you would think by now, 186 00:09:34,608 --> 00:09:39,095 we have some sort of investigation and data reporting- 187 00:09:39,130 --> 00:09:41,063 - No, no, they had investigations. 188 00:09:41,097 --> 00:09:43,548 You would think by now that they would say, 189 00:09:43,583 --> 00:09:46,586 "Here's a piece of something," or, "Here is"- 190 00:09:46,620 --> 00:09:48,035 - Yes. 191 00:09:48,070 --> 00:09:48,933 - Right. 192 00:09:48,967 --> 00:09:52,522 So I had an idea. 193 00:09:52,557 --> 00:09:53,420 - Which is? 194 00:09:53,454 --> 00:09:54,694 And I'm sure it was a good one. 195 00:09:55,629 --> 00:09:59,495 - I thought we need to go all the way, 196 00:09:59,529 --> 00:10:02,705 and do something at a much bigger scale. 197 00:10:02,740 --> 00:10:06,260 We need to do a scientific investigation. 198 00:10:06,295 --> 00:10:07,848 - I think that's marvelous. 199 00:10:07,883 --> 00:10:11,921 - Those Navy pilots who were off of the coast of Catalina. 200 00:10:11,956 --> 00:10:14,993 And this is where they saw these TICTAC videos. 201 00:10:15,028 --> 00:10:18,687 And other Navy ships as well, all in the same area. 202 00:10:18,721 --> 00:10:20,654 That's kind of what I'm thinking. 203 00:10:20,689 --> 00:10:24,347 We put a team of scientists, experts, 204 00:10:24,382 --> 00:10:27,799 military folks as well, since they have the experience, 205 00:10:27,834 --> 00:10:32,252 and attempt to capture something in real time. 206 00:10:32,286 --> 00:10:36,705 - Yes, if you could hone in electronically and visually. 207 00:10:36,739 --> 00:10:38,948 On some unidentified flying object, 208 00:10:38,983 --> 00:10:41,986 you'd certainly have made news, that's for sure. 209 00:10:42,020 --> 00:10:43,677 - The TICTAC videos, for example, 210 00:10:43,712 --> 00:10:47,819 there is no other angles of the same object. 211 00:10:47,854 --> 00:10:50,822 We don't have have any sort of radiation detection. 212 00:10:50,857 --> 00:10:51,996 We don't have any sort of- 213 00:10:52,030 --> 00:10:53,310 - We don't have a triangulation. 214 00:10:53,342 --> 00:10:54,733 - We don't have any triangulation. 215 00:10:54,757 --> 00:10:55,758 - Although- 216 00:10:55,793 --> 00:10:56,794 - Yes. 217 00:10:56,828 --> 00:10:59,348 - The radar picked it up as well as the cameras 218 00:10:59,382 --> 00:11:01,833 on the ships if I'm not mistaken. 219 00:11:01,868 --> 00:11:03,801 - Yes. - All you need is a phenomena. 220 00:11:03,835 --> 00:11:06,010 - It sounds like you think it's a good idea? 221 00:11:06,044 --> 00:11:07,528 - Oh, it's a wonderful idea. 222 00:11:07,563 --> 00:11:08,909 - Great, 223 00:11:08,944 --> 00:11:10,715 - Well, I can't tell you how much I'm looking forward 224 00:11:10,739 --> 00:11:15,675 to hearing, and hopefully seeing what you've uncovered. 225 00:11:16,814 --> 00:11:17,849 - Awesome, thank you. 226 00:11:19,506 --> 00:11:22,785 - That's what we need, the smoking gun that'll clench it. 227 00:11:22,820 --> 00:11:25,788 That once and for all will settle the debate. 228 00:11:25,823 --> 00:11:28,446 No ifs, ands or buts. 229 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:32,484 And in the process, rewrite all of human history. 230 00:11:36,385 --> 00:11:38,698 I was ecstatic to find out 231 00:11:38,732 --> 00:11:43,288 that the Navy personnel from the USS Nimitz encounter 232 00:11:43,323 --> 00:11:48,121 had created the UAPx team, with renowned scientists 233 00:11:48,155 --> 00:11:51,434 and experts, to research the UFO phenomenon 234 00:11:51,469 --> 00:11:55,922 in more depth, and with rigorous scientific methodologies. 235 00:11:55,956 --> 00:12:00,443 So, the UAPx team was the perfect fit 236 00:12:00,478 --> 00:12:03,343 for this first expedition. 237 00:12:11,765 --> 00:12:13,353 - Oh, they're here, Gary. - Hey Gary. 238 00:12:13,387 --> 00:12:14,537 Nice to meet you. - Nice to meet you 239 00:12:14,561 --> 00:12:15,355 in person, Caro. - Yeah. 240 00:12:15,389 --> 00:12:16,977 Kevin, nice to meet you. 241 00:12:17,012 --> 00:12:17,909 This is awesome. - Nice to meet you. 242 00:12:17,944 --> 00:12:18,807 - This is Jeremy. 243 00:12:18,841 --> 00:12:19,773 - Good to meet you 244 00:12:19,808 --> 00:12:20,923 in the flesh. - Good to meet you. 245 00:12:20,947 --> 00:12:21,879 - Hi Jeremy. - Kevin? 246 00:12:21,913 --> 00:12:23,328 - Mr. OSIRIS. - Good to meet you. 247 00:12:23,363 --> 00:12:24,927 Absolutely. Absolutely. 248 00:12:24,951 --> 00:12:26,549 - These are the guys who were on the USS Princeton, 249 00:12:26,573 --> 00:12:28,540 everybody's been talking about. 250 00:12:28,575 --> 00:12:31,612 So why should we work with any anybody else, 251 00:12:31,647 --> 00:12:34,546 but the real folks who lived it? 252 00:12:34,581 --> 00:12:35,409 - The guys who started it. 253 00:12:35,444 --> 00:12:36,721 - Yeah. 254 00:12:36,756 --> 00:12:39,137 And so this moment is very exciting for me 255 00:12:39,172 --> 00:12:41,761 because if you want to bring credibility 256 00:12:41,795 --> 00:12:45,281 to this phenomenon, you have to go all the way. 257 00:12:45,316 --> 00:12:48,940 I mean, it has to be big, it has to be scientific. 258 00:12:48,975 --> 00:12:50,642 - That's the very reason why we started our company 259 00:12:50,666 --> 00:12:52,772 is 'cause we didn't have those answers. 260 00:12:52,806 --> 00:12:54,083 - We agree. - And it 261 00:12:54,118 --> 00:12:55,751 was great that they came out, and let everybody know 262 00:12:55,775 --> 00:12:58,605 this was a real thing, but there needs to be more done. 263 00:12:58,639 --> 00:12:59,951 - Well, the video's one thing, 264 00:12:59,986 --> 00:13:02,091 but we've gotta get more data. 265 00:13:02,126 --> 00:13:04,576 - Personally thinking, we need to go back 266 00:13:04,611 --> 00:13:07,787 to where you guys were, Southern California. 267 00:13:07,821 --> 00:13:09,167 What do you suggest? 268 00:13:09,202 --> 00:13:10,720 What do you think we should do? 269 00:13:10,755 --> 00:13:11,963 - Well. - Well, 270 00:13:11,998 --> 00:13:13,769 we got a couple of locations that we kinda thought 271 00:13:13,793 --> 00:13:16,243 that we're gonna do good coverage 272 00:13:16,278 --> 00:13:18,901 of the South part of the island. 273 00:13:18,936 --> 00:13:21,628 - I'd be okay if we could get a house 274 00:13:21,662 --> 00:13:24,079 on the beach right here, somewhere, that would be ideal. 275 00:13:24,113 --> 00:13:26,875 And then maybe a place with a flat roof on Catalina. 276 00:13:26,909 --> 00:13:29,084 - Then our third location could be the truck. 277 00:13:29,118 --> 00:13:32,294 - So if we do have two stationary positions, 278 00:13:32,328 --> 00:13:35,642 and then we have Jeremy in one spot, 279 00:13:35,676 --> 00:13:38,818 we could potentially achieve some sort of triangulation. 280 00:13:38,852 --> 00:13:39,749 - Yes. 281 00:13:39,784 --> 00:13:41,268 - Which is very, very important. 282 00:13:41,303 --> 00:13:42,028 - Yes. - Yup. 283 00:13:42,062 --> 00:13:43,684 - In collecting data. 284 00:13:43,719 --> 00:13:46,860 So at the end of the day, who do we have on the team? 285 00:13:46,895 --> 00:13:48,551 - So, we've got myself, Gary Voorhis, 286 00:13:48,586 --> 00:13:51,416 we've got Kevin Day, we've got Jason Turner. 287 00:13:51,451 --> 00:13:53,049 And we were all on the Princeton together. 288 00:13:53,073 --> 00:13:55,696 We also have Dave Altman, and Michael Hall, 289 00:13:55,731 --> 00:13:58,147 both experienced UFO researchers. 290 00:13:58,182 --> 00:14:00,425 Then we have our scientist, Kevin Knuth, 291 00:14:00,460 --> 00:14:02,220 who is an associate professor in physics, 292 00:14:02,255 --> 00:14:04,257 and an expert in exoplanet research. 293 00:14:04,291 --> 00:14:06,224 We also have Matthews Szydagis, 294 00:14:06,259 --> 00:14:07,985 an associate professor in physics. 295 00:14:08,019 --> 00:14:10,953 His expertise is in dark matter and radiation detection. 296 00:14:10,988 --> 00:14:12,127 Then we have David Mason, 297 00:14:12,161 --> 00:14:13,922 he's invented several of the devices 298 00:14:13,956 --> 00:14:18,029 that can detect communication patterns coming from UAP. 299 00:14:18,064 --> 00:14:20,480 - So we have optical, we have acoustic. 300 00:14:20,514 --> 00:14:21,239 What else we got? 301 00:14:21,274 --> 00:14:22,931 We got thermal, 302 00:14:22,965 --> 00:14:26,037 we've got, everything we can throw at it. 303 00:14:26,072 --> 00:14:29,696 - With all this equipment and all of us over five days, 304 00:14:29,730 --> 00:14:32,009 24/7, if we don't see something, 305 00:14:32,043 --> 00:14:33,907 I'm gonna be very disappointed. 306 00:14:33,942 --> 00:14:36,841 - It would be pretty disappointing if we don't see anything, 307 00:14:36,876 --> 00:14:38,118 but that is science though. 308 00:14:38,153 --> 00:14:40,741 - Has this ever been done before? 309 00:14:40,776 --> 00:14:42,191 - Never. - And not that I know of. 310 00:14:42,226 --> 00:14:43,997 - I've never even seen it from the government. 311 00:14:44,021 --> 00:14:45,505 - We're making history. 312 00:14:49,026 --> 00:14:50,924 While the main team is getting set up 313 00:14:50,959 --> 00:14:52,512 at the Laguna location, 314 00:14:52,546 --> 00:14:55,756 Gary, Kevin, and I decided to charter a plane 315 00:14:55,791 --> 00:14:58,138 to scout a location on Catalina Island, 316 00:14:58,173 --> 00:15:02,073 so we can have the best spot for our potential sightings. 317 00:15:04,075 --> 00:15:06,043 So after all of the events happened, 318 00:15:06,077 --> 00:15:09,115 and Kevin Day said, "Hey, let's go out there, 319 00:15:09,149 --> 00:15:11,151 and let's go find out what they are." 320 00:15:11,186 --> 00:15:15,707 - I wanna make sure it is the best vantage point 321 00:15:15,742 --> 00:15:17,019 of facing the channel. 322 00:15:17,054 --> 00:15:18,400 - Yeah, facing the channel. 323 00:15:18,434 --> 00:15:19,434 - Yeah, exactly. 324 00:15:21,092 --> 00:15:24,578 - My goal for the expeditions is to prove they're real, 325 00:15:24,613 --> 00:15:28,375 prove they're findable, and prove these things are knowable. 326 00:15:28,410 --> 00:15:29,963 We can know what they are. 327 00:15:29,998 --> 00:15:30,998 That's my goal. 328 00:15:32,897 --> 00:15:34,116 I think we're gonna have like a couple 329 00:15:34,140 --> 00:15:35,969 of really, really good spots. 330 00:15:38,006 --> 00:15:39,431 - Let's see if we can figure it out, 331 00:15:39,455 --> 00:15:40,605 let's see if we can find them. 332 00:15:40,629 --> 00:15:43,080 Let's go get the missing data ourselves. 333 00:15:43,114 --> 00:15:45,289 - I wanna be the guy that makes the identification. 334 00:15:45,323 --> 00:15:46,842 That was my job in the Navy. 335 00:15:48,085 --> 00:15:51,605 - The best vantage point we found on Catalina Island 336 00:15:51,640 --> 00:15:55,747 is on the rooftop of a building facing the channel. 337 00:15:55,782 --> 00:15:59,061 We're going to have Dave, Michael, and a friend of ours, 338 00:15:59,096 --> 00:16:01,684 Chrissy Newton set up at that location. 339 00:16:02,892 --> 00:16:04,998 They will be in constant communication 340 00:16:05,033 --> 00:16:08,657 with us on the mainland and will be able to alert us 341 00:16:08,691 --> 00:16:11,073 as soon as they have a sighting. 342 00:16:11,108 --> 00:16:13,144 - You set up on a rooftop of a building. 343 00:16:13,179 --> 00:16:14,663 You got a great line of sight, 344 00:16:14,697 --> 00:16:17,148 we've got all of the equipment put out there already. 345 00:16:17,183 --> 00:16:20,151 We're gonna have your thermal, your regular binoculars. 346 00:16:20,186 --> 00:16:21,981 Anything you see, you can be able to document 347 00:16:22,015 --> 00:16:25,156 and correlate with the data that we have on the other side. 348 00:16:25,191 --> 00:16:26,616 - I got a feeling we're gonna see something. 349 00:16:26,640 --> 00:16:28,032 I mean, there's been reports of sightings 350 00:16:28,056 --> 00:16:30,092 out there since early 40's. 351 00:16:30,127 --> 00:16:31,645 - Well, you guys know what to do. 352 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:33,209 Get over there, get everything set up. 353 00:16:33,233 --> 00:16:34,476 - Sounds great. 354 00:16:34,510 --> 00:16:35,270 - We'll take shifts. 355 00:16:35,304 --> 00:16:36,340 - Yep. - Yep. 356 00:16:36,374 --> 00:16:37,134 - Yep. - Awesome. 357 00:16:37,168 --> 00:16:38,204 - Let's get 'em done. 358 00:16:45,349 --> 00:16:48,697 - Michael and Dave are off to Catalina. 359 00:16:48,731 --> 00:16:52,632 We are very excited, but a bit nervous 360 00:16:52,666 --> 00:16:56,636 because the logistics for the setup on Catalina, 361 00:16:56,670 --> 00:17:00,019 and the communication are quite difficult. 362 00:17:00,053 --> 00:17:03,022 There are no trucks or vehicles on the island 363 00:17:03,056 --> 00:17:05,162 to help us move the equipment. 364 00:17:05,196 --> 00:17:08,510 And even though we do have a communication protocol 365 00:17:08,544 --> 00:17:10,857 in place, we're gonna have to rely 366 00:17:10,891 --> 00:17:14,067 on a very spotty cell-phone service. 367 00:17:14,102 --> 00:17:17,174 But with team effort, we're keeping a positive outlook, 368 00:17:17,208 --> 00:17:19,038 and hoping for the best. 369 00:17:28,081 --> 00:17:29,093 - Looks like we made it, Mike. 370 00:17:29,117 --> 00:17:30,946 - Ho, ho, ho. 371 00:17:30,980 --> 00:17:32,534 - Let's get these big guys set up, 372 00:17:32,568 --> 00:17:35,330 and then we'll take a quick inventory of what we've got. 373 00:17:40,438 --> 00:17:44,028 - Give us a little bit of a practice session 374 00:17:44,063 --> 00:17:45,892 on these things moving out there, 375 00:17:47,135 --> 00:17:50,931 and we'll see if we can keep up with any UAP 376 00:17:50,966 --> 00:17:53,417 that's going thousands of miles an hour. 377 00:17:53,451 --> 00:17:54,946 We might have to- - Gonna get whiplash. 378 00:17:54,970 --> 00:17:57,904 - It's gonna be hard to catch 'em but we'll see. 379 00:18:14,093 --> 00:18:16,336 - When I hear that you've assembled a team 380 00:18:16,371 --> 00:18:19,960 of top scientists using state of the art equipment 381 00:18:19,995 --> 00:18:21,790 to settle some of these questions, 382 00:18:21,824 --> 00:18:25,207 I say to myself, "What took you so long?" 383 00:18:25,242 --> 00:18:27,589 I mean, the data is out there. 384 00:18:27,623 --> 00:18:29,798 So we have to jump into it. 385 00:18:29,832 --> 00:18:33,595 Wherever it goes, wherever the data leads us, 386 00:18:33,629 --> 00:18:35,114 that's where we have to go. 387 00:18:35,148 --> 00:18:37,771 So I say it's about time. 388 00:18:43,156 --> 00:18:45,952 - Here we are, the first day is for equipment set up. 389 00:18:45,986 --> 00:18:50,267 We already had power outages and software malfunction. 390 00:18:50,301 --> 00:18:54,063 We only have five days to succeed at our mission. 391 00:18:54,098 --> 00:18:56,273 So the stakes are high. 392 00:18:56,307 --> 00:18:58,309 We have come prepared, but the odds 393 00:18:58,344 --> 00:19:00,760 of capturing real anomalous objects 394 00:19:00,794 --> 00:19:03,797 within these five days are 50/50. 395 00:19:03,832 --> 00:19:06,317 We just don't know what to expect. 396 00:19:17,225 --> 00:19:18,685 - I have a friend of mine, Chrissy Newton, 397 00:19:18,709 --> 00:19:19,986 another set of eyes. 398 00:19:20,020 --> 00:19:22,126 There'll be three sets of eyes instead of two. 399 00:19:24,128 --> 00:19:25,371 - All right, I got something. 400 00:19:26,372 --> 00:19:27,925 I got something, Michael. 401 00:19:27,959 --> 00:19:29,119 - Did you? - Yep, over here. 402 00:19:30,341 --> 00:19:32,240 Hey, come here, hurry up. - Huh? 403 00:19:32,274 --> 00:19:33,274 - It's up there. 404 00:19:34,173 --> 00:19:35,174 Oh, it's moving. 405 00:19:35,208 --> 00:19:36,313 It's frigging moving. 406 00:19:37,279 --> 00:19:38,315 Hurry up. 407 00:19:39,385 --> 00:19:40,385 - Moving. 408 00:19:41,387 --> 00:19:43,216 - You see a white ball above the mountain? 409 00:19:43,251 --> 00:19:44,390 Yep, I do. 410 00:19:46,081 --> 00:19:47,186 - You see it Mike? 411 00:19:47,220 --> 00:19:48,187 - Oh yeah. 412 00:19:48,221 --> 00:19:49,681 - Oh, I see it moving now. - Is it moving? 413 00:19:49,705 --> 00:19:50,982 - Yeah, it's moving, oh. 414 00:19:52,812 --> 00:19:54,020 We saw a few things. 415 00:19:54,054 --> 00:19:55,987 The first thing that we saw when I walked in 416 00:19:56,022 --> 00:19:58,542 was a UFO that was, well, we think it was a UFO, 417 00:19:58,576 --> 00:19:59,957 we're not 100% sure. 418 00:19:59,991 --> 00:20:02,201 We did see some craft of some sort 419 00:20:02,235 --> 00:20:04,375 that was moving across the sky. 420 00:20:04,410 --> 00:20:06,135 - Tonight was good. 421 00:20:06,170 --> 00:20:09,277 I mean, I guess having an extra set of eyes did help. 422 00:20:09,311 --> 00:20:12,832 We saw a couple of strange lights in the skies, as they say, 423 00:20:12,866 --> 00:20:14,178 when we first got here, 424 00:20:14,213 --> 00:20:16,284 and we saw a few more about an hour later. 425 00:20:16,318 --> 00:20:17,768 It's kinda getting cloudy, 426 00:20:17,802 --> 00:20:19,401 so we figure we'll pack it in for tonight 427 00:20:19,425 --> 00:20:21,703 and make it back out tomorrow night. 428 00:20:23,187 --> 00:20:25,534 - When a team member spots an anomalous object, 429 00:20:25,569 --> 00:20:29,711 the protocol is to immediately contact the rest of the team 430 00:20:29,745 --> 00:20:32,265 to see if they are able to capture 431 00:20:32,300 --> 00:20:34,819 the same object from different angles. 432 00:20:34,854 --> 00:20:37,305 And they also have to record what they capture, 433 00:20:37,339 --> 00:20:40,066 and send the recording to our scientists. 434 00:20:40,100 --> 00:20:43,311 Well, the cell communication failed on that day. 435 00:20:43,345 --> 00:20:47,349 But the recordings were sent to the scientists for analysis. 436 00:20:47,384 --> 00:20:49,420 This is our first capture. 437 00:20:49,455 --> 00:20:53,217 We can't get too excited yet, but being the first day, 438 00:20:53,252 --> 00:20:55,357 I guess this is a good sign. 439 00:21:12,547 --> 00:21:13,306 - Good morning gentlemen. 440 00:21:13,341 --> 00:21:14,273 - Good morning. 441 00:21:14,307 --> 00:21:16,171 - So we got everything out, 442 00:21:16,205 --> 00:21:17,414 We got half our equipment up, 443 00:21:17,448 --> 00:21:19,381 did you get the radiation detector running? 444 00:21:19,416 --> 00:21:21,763 - Yes I did, I got it running. 445 00:21:21,797 --> 00:21:23,282 - How is the UFODAP? 446 00:21:23,316 --> 00:21:25,387 - UFODAP got a new software pushed out to me, 447 00:21:25,422 --> 00:21:27,596 I'll get it installed and running today. 448 00:21:27,631 --> 00:21:29,529 - Roger that, how's the cosmic watch? 449 00:21:29,564 --> 00:21:31,876 - It's all patched up and ready to go. 450 00:21:31,911 --> 00:21:33,292 - All right, roger that. 451 00:21:33,326 --> 00:21:35,052 Everything going good. 452 00:21:35,086 --> 00:21:36,364 Jason, anything to report? 453 00:21:36,398 --> 00:21:38,169 - No, I think we're all good, looks good to go. 454 00:21:38,193 --> 00:21:38,952 - All right. 455 00:21:38,987 --> 00:21:40,229 Well, let's work hard, 456 00:21:40,264 --> 00:21:41,759 let's get everything up and running by noon. 457 00:21:41,783 --> 00:21:43,647 We need to get as much possible time, 458 00:21:43,681 --> 00:21:44,865 data recording while we're here. 459 00:21:44,889 --> 00:21:48,168 This is our opportunity, let's get it done. 460 00:21:48,203 --> 00:21:49,825 - Excellent, let's do it. - All right. 461 00:21:52,759 --> 00:21:55,003 - Half of our equipment is experimental, 462 00:21:55,037 --> 00:21:59,456 the other half is well, some of it's old, 463 00:21:59,490 --> 00:22:01,906 and some of it's not and some of it's cutting edge. 464 00:22:01,941 --> 00:22:04,184 So it's just a matter of, 465 00:22:04,219 --> 00:22:07,049 hopefully it'll all work. 466 00:22:13,504 --> 00:22:14,988 Where should we put this? 467 00:22:15,023 --> 00:22:16,852 - Well guys, I think that the primary place 468 00:22:16,887 --> 00:22:18,174 is gonna be right here in the corner 469 00:22:18,198 --> 00:22:19,510 about where I'm standing. 470 00:22:19,545 --> 00:22:20,960 - All right, we've got... 471 00:22:20,994 --> 00:22:24,964 - We've got a pretty perfect view of Catalina from here. 472 00:22:24,998 --> 00:22:27,415 We've got unrestricted airspace over top of us. 473 00:22:29,555 --> 00:22:34,180 So you guys, this is actually the little brother 474 00:22:34,214 --> 00:22:35,871 of what I've got in the OSIRIS. 475 00:22:37,252 --> 00:22:41,014 We've got the magnetometers, we've got the GPS, 476 00:22:41,049 --> 00:22:43,016 we've got wireless connectivity, 477 00:22:43,051 --> 00:22:46,641 we've got all the barometric pressure, weather indicators, 478 00:22:46,675 --> 00:22:50,334 ADSB, we can track known aircraft with this. 479 00:22:50,369 --> 00:22:52,543 And the best part about this is, I can see this, 480 00:22:52,578 --> 00:22:54,511 I can control this from the OSIRIS. 481 00:22:54,545 --> 00:22:56,996 So if this thing's putting out any signals, 482 00:22:57,030 --> 00:22:58,030 we're gonna get it? 483 00:23:00,033 --> 00:23:02,484 - One of my friends, Travis Taylor, 484 00:23:02,519 --> 00:23:04,555 who is an astrophysicist, 485 00:23:04,590 --> 00:23:08,421 has been involved in studying anomalous events and UAPs 486 00:23:08,456 --> 00:23:12,045 from a scientific perspective for a long time. 487 00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:14,772 So I thought I would invite him to check out our setup, 488 00:23:14,807 --> 00:23:18,051 and get his take on some of the new technology 489 00:23:18,086 --> 00:23:20,606 and equipment we brought along. 490 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:21,607 - I'm really optimistic. 491 00:23:21,641 --> 00:23:23,402 This is great for the first day. 492 00:23:23,436 --> 00:23:24,517 - And we're gonna have to go through 493 00:23:24,541 --> 00:23:26,405 this frame by frame. - Hey guys. 494 00:23:26,439 --> 00:23:27,578 - Hey. - Look who's here. 495 00:23:27,613 --> 00:23:28,935 - Hey, hey, Travis. - Hey Travis. 496 00:23:28,959 --> 00:23:30,201 It's been a long time. 497 00:23:30,236 --> 00:23:31,696 Two years, I think since the conference. 498 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:33,412 - You guys know each other? 499 00:23:33,446 --> 00:23:34,516 - Yeah. - Yeah, yeah. 500 00:23:34,551 --> 00:23:35,552 - Oh okay. 501 00:23:35,586 --> 00:23:37,139 This is David Mason. 502 00:23:37,174 --> 00:23:40,246 He's the brains behind all the inventions, 503 00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:43,111 but we have two major brains here as well. 504 00:23:43,145 --> 00:23:44,699 Wait till you see what's upstairs, 505 00:23:44,733 --> 00:23:46,942 it's crazy stuff. - Wow. 506 00:23:46,977 --> 00:23:48,875 - Would you like to give him a tour? 507 00:23:48,910 --> 00:23:50,429 - Absolutely. - Awesome. 508 00:23:50,463 --> 00:23:51,958 - Well, I'd love to see it. - All right, perfect. 509 00:23:51,982 --> 00:23:55,364 - I'm really excited to see the instrumentation, 510 00:23:55,399 --> 00:23:58,298 the planning that these guys have put into this experiment. 511 00:23:58,333 --> 00:24:01,578 It's gonna change the culture in the world. 512 00:24:01,612 --> 00:24:03,038 Scientists are gonna have to start taking 513 00:24:03,062 --> 00:24:04,822 this more seriously if we're gonna get 514 00:24:04,857 --> 00:24:06,479 to the bottom of the phenomenon. 515 00:24:06,514 --> 00:24:09,482 So I hear some chirps and clicks. 516 00:24:09,517 --> 00:24:11,450 - The chirps are gamma radiation, 517 00:24:11,484 --> 00:24:12,703 which are higher energy particles 518 00:24:12,727 --> 00:24:15,488 and then the clicking is the beta radiation. 519 00:24:15,523 --> 00:24:17,525 - Yeah. - Which are softer energy. 520 00:24:17,559 --> 00:24:19,295 - What part of the spectrum are you able to look at? 521 00:24:19,319 --> 00:24:22,219 - From about 10 megahertz up to about two gigahertz. 522 00:24:22,253 --> 00:24:25,153 - So you can see all the radio stations and TV stations, 523 00:24:25,187 --> 00:24:27,234 and ham bands, and everything that everybody would use. 524 00:24:27,258 --> 00:24:29,537 So if something's there that shouldn't be there, 525 00:24:29,571 --> 00:24:30,330 then you'll see it? 526 00:24:30,365 --> 00:24:31,642 - Absolutely. 527 00:24:31,677 --> 00:24:32,723 - So what else you got here? 528 00:24:32,747 --> 00:24:34,749 - We've got eight FLIR thermal cameras running. 529 00:24:34,783 --> 00:24:35,888 Oh wow. 530 00:24:35,922 --> 00:24:37,486 And so you can see pretty much the whole sky, 531 00:24:37,510 --> 00:24:38,660 in FLIR if you want to at night. 532 00:24:38,684 --> 00:24:39,892 Absolutely. 533 00:24:39,926 --> 00:24:41,594 - Normally, UAP researchers have one FLIR 534 00:24:41,618 --> 00:24:43,792 looking like that way or that way. 535 00:24:43,827 --> 00:24:46,450 Now you can look all over, right? 536 00:24:46,485 --> 00:24:49,246 - Many of the unknown objects I have recorded 537 00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:52,525 often register temperatures minus 20 Fahrenheit. 538 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:55,563 I've even had some down to minus 80 Fahrenheit, 539 00:24:55,597 --> 00:24:57,841 which is just extraordinarily cold. 540 00:24:57,875 --> 00:25:01,638 Exhibit no exhaust, and no explanation for it. 541 00:25:03,329 --> 00:25:04,548 So what's this thing? 542 00:25:04,572 --> 00:25:06,677 This is a light wave transmitter. 543 00:25:06,712 --> 00:25:10,578 - So, it's connected to a laser or something over here? 544 00:25:10,612 --> 00:25:13,304 - It's connected to a light wave transmitter assembly. 545 00:25:13,339 --> 00:25:15,375 There seems to be an oddity about them 546 00:25:15,410 --> 00:25:18,206 because the people report that they pulsate. 547 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:19,966 And my theory is that there must be 548 00:25:20,001 --> 00:25:21,554 some sort of information or data. 549 00:25:21,589 --> 00:25:24,868 - So what if a UAP is off in the distance, 550 00:25:24,902 --> 00:25:26,594 and it's modulating its brightness, 551 00:25:26,628 --> 00:25:27,940 changing its brightness. 552 00:25:27,974 --> 00:25:30,563 With information pattern, they're communicating with us, 553 00:25:30,598 --> 00:25:31,530 right? - That's the theory I have. 554 00:25:31,564 --> 00:25:33,186 - And when you convert that to sound, 555 00:25:33,221 --> 00:25:36,604 our brains and our ears and various computer algorithms 556 00:25:36,638 --> 00:25:38,191 could find a pattern in that. 557 00:25:38,226 --> 00:25:39,538 - That's correct. 558 00:25:39,572 --> 00:25:41,505 We can also take that sound that we receive, 559 00:25:41,540 --> 00:25:43,034 and put it right back on the transmitter- 560 00:25:43,058 --> 00:25:44,208 - And send it right back to it. 561 00:25:44,232 --> 00:25:45,613 - Right back to 'em. 562 00:25:45,647 --> 00:25:47,073 So if they're sending out data we don't understand, 563 00:25:47,097 --> 00:25:48,719 we can say, "Here you go." 564 00:25:48,754 --> 00:25:50,386 - Well see, and that's the first protocol 565 00:25:50,410 --> 00:25:53,310 in any communication is you say, hello world. 566 00:25:53,344 --> 00:25:54,691 If you hear hello world, 567 00:25:54,725 --> 00:25:56,555 you say hello world right back to them. 568 00:25:56,589 --> 00:25:58,695 So, what's really cool about this is 569 00:25:58,729 --> 00:26:03,596 you've got a capability here to maybe detect communications, 570 00:26:03,631 --> 00:26:06,081 and rebroadcast those communications 571 00:26:06,116 --> 00:26:09,844 in both electromagnetic, or radio station, microwave, 572 00:26:09,878 --> 00:26:14,883 all that, optical, ultraviolet, visible and infrared light, 573 00:26:15,781 --> 00:26:17,368 as well as temperature. 574 00:26:17,403 --> 00:26:18,680 That gives you a broad range 575 00:26:18,715 --> 00:26:20,958 of where potential communications might be. 576 00:26:20,993 --> 00:26:23,858 We have no idea how the UAPs might be communicating. 577 00:26:23,892 --> 00:26:25,238 - That's right. 578 00:26:25,273 --> 00:26:26,757 - I'm really impressed. 579 00:26:26,792 --> 00:26:29,311 This is exciting, and I can't wait to see it working, 580 00:26:29,346 --> 00:26:32,073 and hopefully we see a UAP and talk to it. 581 00:26:32,107 --> 00:26:32,867 - I'd like to do that. 582 00:26:32,901 --> 00:26:34,454 - I would too. 583 00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:41,047 - We wanna use really high tech gear 584 00:26:41,082 --> 00:26:42,946 to collect some techno signatures. 585 00:26:42,980 --> 00:26:45,673 We're hoping to be able to use that technology, 586 00:26:45,707 --> 00:26:48,641 if we do find them to actually handshake these things, 587 00:26:48,676 --> 00:26:50,091 or maybe even talk to 'em. 588 00:26:54,164 --> 00:26:57,063 - I gotta tell you guys, after having a tour of 589 00:26:57,098 --> 00:26:58,765 what you've got here, I'm really impressed. 590 00:26:58,789 --> 00:27:01,309 You're covering the phenomenologies 591 00:27:01,343 --> 00:27:03,311 across the spectrum of physics. 592 00:27:03,345 --> 00:27:06,210 I've never seen anything as singularly focused 593 00:27:06,245 --> 00:27:08,730 as this effort for one particular type of phenomena. 594 00:27:08,765 --> 00:27:10,283 - So here's another one of these, 595 00:27:10,318 --> 00:27:11,709 can't take credit for this, but this is a designed 596 00:27:11,733 --> 00:27:14,667 by my friends and colleagues at MIT. 597 00:27:14,702 --> 00:27:16,738 This is just a general radiation detector 598 00:27:16,773 --> 00:27:19,741 to look for anything that's anomalous 599 00:27:19,776 --> 00:27:23,434 above a normal background reading in a given location. 600 00:27:57,745 --> 00:27:58,918 - I got another one. - Nice. 601 00:27:58,953 --> 00:28:00,540 - Look Mike, Mike it's... 602 00:28:00,575 --> 00:28:01,852 Oh my God! 603 00:28:01,887 --> 00:28:02,888 - Okay. 604 00:28:02,922 --> 00:28:05,235 - Look towards, it's right there. 605 00:28:06,443 --> 00:28:08,652 I'm not taking off of it this time. 606 00:28:08,687 --> 00:28:10,205 You see it? - Oh man, that's big. 607 00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:11,931 Yeah, that's not a plane. 608 00:28:13,864 --> 00:28:16,729 And it just showed up out of nowhere. 609 00:28:16,764 --> 00:28:18,673 Okay, let's see if we can get this on tape. 610 00:28:18,697 --> 00:28:20,008 Yep. 611 00:28:27,740 --> 00:28:29,155 - I got it. - Yep, you got it? 612 00:28:30,639 --> 00:28:33,056 I wanna see it until it's gone, I wanna see how it travels. 613 00:28:33,090 --> 00:28:35,610 - See how it leaves. - Yep, that's what I want. 614 00:28:40,753 --> 00:28:43,756 It's not a star, it wasn't there before. 615 00:28:45,862 --> 00:28:47,967 And that would be a really bright star. 616 00:28:48,002 --> 00:28:50,798 There's no way that's a star, that was not there. 617 00:28:50,832 --> 00:28:52,800 It's pretty low in the horizon too. 618 00:28:52,834 --> 00:28:53,835 Yeah. 619 00:28:59,910 --> 00:29:01,740 - Hey Michael, go ahead. 620 00:29:01,774 --> 00:29:04,777 - Hey, we just saw something quite anomalous, 621 00:29:04,812 --> 00:29:08,022 and Dave and I both got it on tape 622 00:29:08,056 --> 00:29:10,956 from our night vision photography. 623 00:29:10,990 --> 00:29:13,682 Different angles, same object. 624 00:29:13,717 --> 00:29:15,857 - All right, I need to know bearing, elevation, 625 00:29:15,892 --> 00:29:17,548 which way is it going? 626 00:29:17,583 --> 00:29:20,793 - 300 degrees Northwest is where it finally appeared 627 00:29:20,828 --> 00:29:25,798 in front of us, to about 29 degrees Northeast, 628 00:29:27,006 --> 00:29:30,803 and disappeared in the clouds towards the mainland 629 00:29:30,838 --> 00:29:32,149 where you guys are. 630 00:29:32,184 --> 00:29:33,817 - All right, Michael, I'm looking on ADSB 631 00:29:33,841 --> 00:29:37,051 and M-Lab right now, we've got no aircraft in the vicinity 632 00:29:37,085 --> 00:29:38,397 of the island right now. 633 00:29:38,431 --> 00:29:40,468 We've got a couple coming up the coast, 634 00:29:40,502 --> 00:29:43,574 and we've got one heading South towards the island, 635 00:29:43,609 --> 00:29:46,957 but there is nothing that has either tracked, 636 00:29:46,992 --> 00:29:48,648 or is tracking in the directionality 637 00:29:48,683 --> 00:29:49,995 that you were talking about. 638 00:29:50,029 --> 00:29:53,515 - All right, Jason look 30 degrees towards the island. 639 00:29:53,550 --> 00:29:56,829 So gimme a description of it, like what did it look like? 640 00:29:56,864 --> 00:30:00,557 - It was just a solid white spherical object. 641 00:30:00,591 --> 00:30:02,939 - Put your hands in front of those two cameras for me. 642 00:30:04,526 --> 00:30:07,115 All right, all right, mark it on those two cameras 643 00:30:07,150 --> 00:30:11,292 for two to three minutes ago, so we can check the recording. 644 00:30:11,326 --> 00:30:16,193 We got a object on two different cameras. 645 00:30:18,057 --> 00:30:19,057 - Be right there. 646 00:30:21,785 --> 00:30:24,995 All right, so this is happening. 647 00:30:25,030 --> 00:30:28,343 We just had a triple gamma repeating frequency just now. 648 00:30:29,275 --> 00:30:30,000 - Really? 649 00:30:30,035 --> 00:30:31,035 - Yep. 650 00:30:32,175 --> 00:30:33,452 Where's it Matt? 651 00:30:33,486 --> 00:30:35,016 - I'm gonna go look with the night vision 652 00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:37,042 because we need to be watching for these things. 653 00:30:37,076 --> 00:30:38,491 - Yeah, we need to be in the sky. 654 00:30:38,526 --> 00:30:39,423 - And keep your eyes peeled, 655 00:30:39,458 --> 00:30:43,634 we're getting a lot of triple spikes on- 656 00:30:43,669 --> 00:30:45,257 - On gamma. - On gamma. 657 00:30:45,291 --> 00:30:48,881 I'm seeing a blinking white light. 658 00:30:48,916 --> 00:30:50,676 - Hey, Jeremy? 659 00:30:50,710 --> 00:30:53,921 Jeremy, I think it's time to get a third vantage point. 660 00:30:53,955 --> 00:30:55,060 We're gonna take off. 661 00:30:55,094 --> 00:30:56,544 - All right, guys. 662 00:30:56,578 --> 00:30:59,892 Right out by Avalon, just left of Avalon, 663 00:31:01,031 --> 00:31:03,551 there was a bright flash, a couple flashes. 664 00:31:03,585 --> 00:31:04,552 We got certain 737 MAX 665 00:31:04,586 --> 00:31:06,416 coming in towards us. 666 00:31:06,450 --> 00:31:10,696 - No, I saw the plane up, it's about 45 degrees altitude, 667 00:31:10,730 --> 00:31:14,010 but this was level with Avalon. 668 00:31:14,044 --> 00:31:15,874 - Oh, it's on the horizon? - On the horizon. 669 00:31:15,908 --> 00:31:16,989 Really bright flash. - Yeah, we got one coming. 670 00:31:17,013 --> 00:31:19,532 - I'm coming. - Straight across their path. 671 00:31:19,567 --> 00:31:21,027 - Yeah, you're seeing this on the horizon. 672 00:31:21,051 --> 00:31:22,397 - It would be on our horizon. 673 00:31:22,432 --> 00:31:23,719 - Would you say add Avalon? - Right here. 674 00:31:23,743 --> 00:31:25,918 - Yeah, it was just to the left of Avalon. 675 00:31:27,230 --> 00:31:30,026 And it was like three really bright flashes several times. 676 00:31:30,060 --> 00:31:31,165 - All right, Jim. 677 00:31:31,199 --> 00:31:32,199 - Yeah. - Let's roll. 678 00:31:40,105 --> 00:31:41,140 - Hey Matthew. 679 00:31:41,175 --> 00:31:42,590 - Hey, what's going on up here? 680 00:31:42,624 --> 00:31:44,523 I've been getting spikes of- 681 00:31:44,557 --> 00:31:46,087 - This is an increase in radiation. 682 00:31:46,111 --> 00:31:48,009 - And it's been increasingly gaining, 683 00:31:48,044 --> 00:31:50,701 Sometimes the amplitudes were plateauing out 684 00:31:50,736 --> 00:31:52,531 where it couldn't go anymore. 685 00:31:53,842 --> 00:31:56,224 - Like literally in the last five, 10 minutes, 686 00:31:56,259 --> 00:31:58,054 we're getting like three bursts? 687 00:31:58,088 --> 00:31:59,583 - But to get anything from miles away, 688 00:31:59,607 --> 00:32:02,679 that means it must be an incredibly high flux source. 689 00:32:02,713 --> 00:32:03,956 Just like a light bulb, 690 00:32:03,991 --> 00:32:05,692 everything spreads out in three dimensions. 691 00:32:05,716 --> 00:32:09,306 In order to get a reading of anything from an object 692 00:32:09,341 --> 00:32:11,481 that's really far away, that means it has 693 00:32:11,515 --> 00:32:13,690 to be an incredibly intense source. 694 00:32:13,724 --> 00:32:15,012 - Wow. - Of whatever it's producing. 695 00:32:15,036 --> 00:32:17,728 But this is more interesting if we can correlate this 696 00:32:17,763 --> 00:32:19,385 as a spike being at the same time 697 00:32:19,420 --> 00:32:21,008 as the visual observations. 698 00:32:21,042 --> 00:32:22,009 - I'm so excited. 699 00:32:22,043 --> 00:32:23,365 - I'm very excited, but we need to make sure 700 00:32:23,389 --> 00:32:26,979 it's not airplane, or satellite, although, 701 00:32:27,014 --> 00:32:27,946 that's what's so great 702 00:32:27,980 --> 00:32:29,540 about our set up that makes it unique. 703 00:32:29,568 --> 00:32:32,088 Because as far as I know, there's no such thing 704 00:32:32,122 --> 00:32:35,263 as a radioactive bird or plane. 705 00:32:35,298 --> 00:32:38,680 So that kind of starts to help rule out 706 00:32:38,715 --> 00:32:40,959 mundane explanations like that. 707 00:33:26,211 --> 00:33:29,110 - Yeah, dude, there's nobody at, you see where it's going? 708 00:33:30,077 --> 00:33:31,112 - All right. 709 00:33:33,425 --> 00:33:34,598 - There's ain't nobody 710 00:33:34,633 --> 00:33:37,670 coming out here. - We'll be done with it. 711 00:33:40,225 --> 00:33:44,056 Power on. Rewind. 712 00:33:44,091 --> 00:33:49,130 All right, she's running. 713 00:33:56,172 --> 00:33:58,726 - All right, we're operational right now, so. 714 00:33:59,968 --> 00:34:01,325 - All right, they got the UFODAP operational 715 00:34:01,349 --> 00:34:02,902 over where they're at. 716 00:34:02,937 --> 00:34:06,078 They're basically somewhere about five miles away. 717 00:34:06,113 --> 00:34:07,079 - Can you see the laser? 718 00:34:07,114 --> 00:34:09,116 - Around the 10 miles figure? 719 00:34:09,150 --> 00:34:14,155 - Yeah, I mean, look, these other traffic heading that way. 720 00:34:15,018 --> 00:34:15,777 It's all coming this way. 721 00:34:15,812 --> 00:34:17,089 - Yeah. 722 00:34:17,124 --> 00:34:18,135 We're getting triple bursts here. 723 00:34:18,159 --> 00:34:18,918 Yeah- 724 00:34:18,953 --> 00:34:19,954 - Oh yeah, 725 00:34:19,988 --> 00:34:21,207 we gotta another one. - We've got another triple. 726 00:34:21,231 --> 00:34:22,232 Awesome. 727 00:34:22,267 --> 00:34:23,554 - We got a lot of triples coming through guys, 728 00:34:23,578 --> 00:34:24,578 keep an eye out. 729 00:34:26,926 --> 00:34:31,172 - We saw some anomalous objects that are not satellites, 730 00:34:31,207 --> 00:34:33,105 that are not drones. 731 00:34:33,140 --> 00:34:36,522 The fact that these things were solid in color, 732 00:34:36,557 --> 00:34:40,423 round to ovoid shape, moving in an anomalous pattern, 733 00:34:40,457 --> 00:34:42,908 no sound, that was incredible. 734 00:34:46,463 --> 00:34:48,086 You see it? 735 00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:50,160 - It didn't activate the camera at all, it just... 736 00:34:52,124 --> 00:34:53,436 That was bright as hell! 737 00:34:53,470 --> 00:34:55,576 - Yeah, it was bright, bro. 738 00:34:55,610 --> 00:34:57,785 It went right across the screen, like right here. 739 00:34:57,819 --> 00:34:58,958 - Yep. - Like that and- 740 00:34:58,993 --> 00:35:01,133 - Did you see it on the... 741 00:35:01,168 --> 00:35:02,134 - No, it never showed. 742 00:35:02,169 --> 00:35:03,342 Okay, that's the weird part. 743 00:35:03,377 --> 00:35:06,345 It never showed on the Fisheye. 744 00:35:06,380 --> 00:35:08,589 So the Fisheye never triggered the PTZ. 745 00:35:08,623 --> 00:35:10,660 I only saw it on the PTZ camera. 746 00:35:13,973 --> 00:35:16,262 - Just trying to check in, see what you guys are going on. 747 00:35:16,286 --> 00:35:19,082 - All right, so we got some weirdness happening here. 748 00:35:19,117 --> 00:35:20,611 - Hey, what did you get? - We saw an object, 749 00:35:20,635 --> 00:35:23,466 only on the PTZ camera. 750 00:35:23,500 --> 00:35:26,779 It did not show up on the Fisheye. 751 00:35:26,814 --> 00:35:30,266 And I've never seen where I've got two cameras 752 00:35:30,300 --> 00:35:31,991 within two feet of each other, 753 00:35:32,026 --> 00:35:34,649 one can see the object and the other one cannot. 754 00:35:34,684 --> 00:35:38,826 So it's literally an anomalous thing where one camera 755 00:35:38,860 --> 00:35:41,898 is seeing a cloud and the object, 756 00:35:41,932 --> 00:35:45,143 when the other camera is seeing just the cloud, 757 00:35:45,177 --> 00:35:47,973 but I can't see the object where it should be. 758 00:35:48,007 --> 00:35:50,009 It's just not there. 759 00:35:50,044 --> 00:35:52,805 It's the weirdest thing I've ever seen. 760 00:36:01,814 --> 00:36:02,677 - It's fading- - It's gone. 761 00:36:02,712 --> 00:36:03,437 It's gone. 762 00:36:03,471 --> 00:36:04,471 - It's freaking gone. 763 00:36:05,473 --> 00:36:06,716 It's just gone. 764 00:36:06,750 --> 00:36:08,821 - It disappeared, man. - Yeah, disappeared. 765 00:36:08,856 --> 00:36:10,133 - Holy Macro! 766 00:36:10,168 --> 00:36:11,317 - Did you get that on video disappearing? 767 00:36:11,341 --> 00:36:12,066 - Yes I did. 768 00:36:12,100 --> 00:36:13,205 - Wow. 769 00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:25,286 - Hey David. 770 00:36:25,321 --> 00:36:26,322 - Yeah. 771 00:36:26,356 --> 00:36:31,154 - I was looking over the cosmic watch records, 772 00:36:31,189 --> 00:36:34,364 and I found a couple of high rate events 773 00:36:34,399 --> 00:36:36,366 and a high energy event. 774 00:36:36,401 --> 00:36:40,750 And that was between 6:07 and 6:13 P.M. 775 00:36:42,061 --> 00:36:44,029 Do you have anything on the FLIR at that time? 776 00:36:44,063 --> 00:36:46,134 - Yeah, we have an anomalous object, 777 00:36:46,169 --> 00:36:48,482 and this thing is like an elongated, 778 00:36:48,516 --> 00:36:51,278 I don't know what to call it 'cause it's not an aircraft, 779 00:36:51,312 --> 00:36:54,867 it's not a bird, it's not a bug, it doesn't fit all 780 00:36:54,902 --> 00:36:57,525 of the prosaic objects that we are aware of. 781 00:36:57,560 --> 00:36:59,251 And you notice that it's moving 782 00:36:59,286 --> 00:37:01,667 where it's contradictory to its trajectory. 783 00:37:01,702 --> 00:37:04,705 So it's like it's moving sideways against the wind, 784 00:37:04,739 --> 00:37:06,879 if it were an aerial object. 785 00:37:06,914 --> 00:37:10,987 - This looks pretty similar to the Nimitz Tic Tac incident. 786 00:37:11,021 --> 00:37:12,920 - It does, it does look like that. 787 00:37:14,370 --> 00:37:18,236 Got it, woo hoo! 788 00:37:18,270 --> 00:37:19,237 We're going against the wind. 789 00:37:19,271 --> 00:37:21,100 The wind's 120 miles to the West. 790 00:37:21,135 --> 00:37:25,346 - And there was a 32 MeV event. 791 00:37:25,381 --> 00:37:28,591 I mean, within the time synchronization of certainty. 792 00:37:28,625 --> 00:37:30,386 - And Matthew, I've got some else here. 793 00:37:30,420 --> 00:37:35,183 It is an object, appears suddenly in the camera, and then- 794 00:37:35,218 --> 00:37:36,115 - Well, what was that? 795 00:37:36,150 --> 00:37:37,150 Oh, there's a- 796 00:37:38,359 --> 00:37:40,672 - The object appears and then moves off screen 797 00:37:40,706 --> 00:37:42,294 rather suddenly, and then now it looks 798 00:37:42,329 --> 00:37:43,571 like it's reappearing. 799 00:37:43,606 --> 00:37:45,401 - Is that the same object coming back? 800 00:37:45,435 --> 00:37:47,920 - Could be, I mean, it looks like it's in the same location. 801 00:37:47,955 --> 00:37:49,439 Did you just see how it zigzagged? 802 00:37:49,474 --> 00:37:50,958 It just moved in and moved out. 803 00:37:50,992 --> 00:37:52,270 This is exciting. 804 00:37:52,304 --> 00:37:53,316 Certainly anomalous, right? 805 00:37:53,340 --> 00:37:54,765 We're not gonna be able to explain that easily. 806 00:37:54,789 --> 00:37:56,135 - Not very easily. 807 00:37:56,170 --> 00:37:58,241 You can't use all the prosaic explanations 808 00:37:58,276 --> 00:38:01,451 of bird bugs or aircraft on this one. 809 00:38:01,486 --> 00:38:03,695 And then check this out, we have a object 810 00:38:04,592 --> 00:38:07,146 that it'll appear in the frame- 811 00:38:07,181 --> 00:38:08,527 - Well, what is that? 812 00:38:08,562 --> 00:38:09,735 You see that? 813 00:38:09,770 --> 00:38:11,392 Yeah. 814 00:38:11,427 --> 00:38:14,775 What is strange is, it's registering cold 815 00:38:14,809 --> 00:38:19,124 in the thermal camera over several pixels, 816 00:38:19,158 --> 00:38:21,264 and it has some motion to it. 817 00:38:21,299 --> 00:38:23,335 It looks like it rotates or tilts, 818 00:38:23,370 --> 00:38:27,132 and appears, and then dissipates out of the frame. 819 00:38:27,166 --> 00:38:28,064 That's even weirder than 820 00:38:28,098 --> 00:38:29,065 the other things you showed me. 821 00:38:29,099 --> 00:38:29,824 - Yes. 822 00:38:29,859 --> 00:38:30,791 - What time was this at? 823 00:38:30,825 --> 00:38:32,896 At 9:29 P.M. 824 00:38:32,931 --> 00:38:36,452 - That matches in time to the night vision videos 825 00:38:36,486 --> 00:38:38,316 that we got from the island team. 826 00:38:38,350 --> 00:38:39,938 Yeah, that's when they called in 827 00:38:39,972 --> 00:38:42,009 with their night vision videos. 828 00:38:42,043 --> 00:38:44,667 They saw an anomalous object and we also saw 829 00:38:44,701 --> 00:38:46,324 an anomalous object in the FLIR. 830 00:38:46,358 --> 00:38:47,980 That would be a remarkable coincidence. 831 00:38:48,015 --> 00:38:49,337 That would be remarkable. 832 00:38:49,361 --> 00:38:51,501 However, it just appear, and then just disappear 833 00:38:51,536 --> 00:38:54,849 without leaving the frame, without showing a path. 834 00:38:54,884 --> 00:38:57,369 This was just in there and then it wasn't in there. 835 00:38:57,404 --> 00:38:58,450 - It's fading- - It's gone. 836 00:38:58,474 --> 00:39:00,372 - It's gone. - It's freaking gone. 837 00:39:00,407 --> 00:39:02,374 - Another interesting fact about this is that 838 00:39:02,409 --> 00:39:05,688 this particular camera was aimed at a 45 degree angle 839 00:39:05,722 --> 00:39:07,517 toward Catalina Island. 840 00:39:07,552 --> 00:39:09,450 - So could conceive it would be 841 00:39:09,485 --> 00:39:11,349 the same object. - Same object. 842 00:39:11,383 --> 00:39:13,534 Yep, because they're triangulating from their perspective, 843 00:39:13,558 --> 00:39:17,147 and then we're triangulating and converging at two points. 844 00:39:17,182 --> 00:39:20,392 - That would mean that we have seen the same object, 845 00:39:20,427 --> 00:39:23,015 not only from different angles, 846 00:39:23,050 --> 00:39:25,052 but also three different wavelengths; 847 00:39:25,086 --> 00:39:28,400 visible light and two different kinds of infrared, right? 848 00:39:28,435 --> 00:39:32,231 So that is unprecedented in the history of UAP research. 849 00:39:32,266 --> 00:39:34,406 - Having correlating day from different instruments, 850 00:39:34,441 --> 00:39:36,857 with different wavelengths, including radiation. 851 00:39:36,891 --> 00:39:38,065 That's just phenomenal. 852 00:39:40,447 --> 00:39:44,692 - In science, it's very important, especially when studying 853 00:39:44,727 --> 00:39:48,075 an unknown phenomenon, to be able to 854 00:39:48,109 --> 00:39:52,217 have multiple different modes or modalities of studying it, 855 00:39:52,251 --> 00:39:54,564 and being able to look at correlations 856 00:39:54,599 --> 00:39:56,083 between different devices 857 00:39:56,117 --> 00:39:57,912 that are studying the same phenomenon. 858 00:39:57,947 --> 00:40:02,261 This reduces the probability of equipment malfunction, 859 00:40:02,296 --> 00:40:04,850 glitches and things like that because the probability 860 00:40:04,885 --> 00:40:09,441 was greatly reduced of something being accidental, 861 00:40:09,476 --> 00:40:12,375 if you can see it across different devices, 862 00:40:12,410 --> 00:40:14,584 especially those different devices 863 00:40:14,619 --> 00:40:16,759 are based on different technologies, 864 00:40:16,793 --> 00:40:19,831 and are looking at the same thing, different ways. 865 00:40:21,419 --> 00:40:26,147 - Today, July 14th, 2021 is an exciting eventful day. 866 00:40:27,390 --> 00:40:31,014 At 5:26 PM, a pink object appears, 867 00:40:31,049 --> 00:40:33,500 makes a U-turn, exits frame. 868 00:40:33,534 --> 00:40:34,846 Very anomalous. 869 00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:39,851 6:07 P.M., a high-energy radiation registers 32.32 MeV. 870 00:40:42,474 --> 00:40:46,444 6:09 P.M. we capture another Tic Tac like object, 871 00:40:46,478 --> 00:40:48,100 traveling sideways. 872 00:40:48,135 --> 00:40:51,449 Could these be the same Navy Tic Tacs that were observed 873 00:40:51,483 --> 00:40:56,454 in 2004 by the USS Nimitz, then by other ships from 2014, 874 00:40:57,524 --> 00:41:00,423 all the way to 2019? 875 00:41:00,458 --> 00:41:01,942 That would be incredible. 876 00:41:01,976 --> 00:41:06,981 Later that evening at 9:29 P.M., the Catalina team captures 877 00:41:08,155 --> 00:41:10,329 an anomalous object, solid in color 878 00:41:10,364 --> 00:41:14,333 on two night vision cameras and one CCD camera, 879 00:41:14,368 --> 00:41:17,475 which correlates with the solid object caught 880 00:41:17,509 --> 00:41:18,786 on our FLIR camera. 881 00:41:18,821 --> 00:41:21,548 Now this object registers cold, 882 00:41:21,582 --> 00:41:25,621 which means it has no propulsion system that we know of. 883 00:41:25,655 --> 00:41:28,693 The object suddenly disappears simultaneously 884 00:41:28,727 --> 00:41:31,489 out of sight from the multiple angles. 885 00:41:31,523 --> 00:41:34,733 Even more intriguing is that at the same time, 886 00:41:34,768 --> 00:41:39,531 the OSIRIS registers one anomalous object on one camera, 887 00:41:39,566 --> 00:41:41,291 but not the other. 888 00:41:41,326 --> 00:41:45,123 These are very intriguing, very compelling events, 889 00:41:45,157 --> 00:41:47,781 and astounding correlations. 890 00:41:47,815 --> 00:41:50,059 I think today was a breakthrough 891 00:41:50,093 --> 00:41:51,854 in our expedition and research. 892 00:41:51,888 --> 00:41:53,476 I am very hopeful. 893 00:41:53,511 --> 00:41:56,341 We're finally on the right track in uncovering 894 00:41:56,375 --> 00:41:58,861 what these Tic Tac objects may be, 895 00:41:58,895 --> 00:42:03,900 or at least getting more evidential data on UAPs and UFOs. 896 00:42:07,904 --> 00:42:12,668 - It takes just one credible irrefutable piece of evidence 897 00:42:12,702 --> 00:42:15,878 to change all of world history. 898 00:42:15,912 --> 00:42:18,570 The entire literature of the human race 899 00:42:18,605 --> 00:42:22,678 would have to be changed if we had just one incident 900 00:42:22,712 --> 00:42:23,851 that is irrefutable. 901 00:42:25,370 --> 00:42:29,063 - Science is also about the skills of data analysis. 902 00:42:29,098 --> 00:42:31,583 It's not just the hardware, it's the software. 903 00:42:31,618 --> 00:42:33,620 And I don't just mean computer software, 904 00:42:33,654 --> 00:42:36,623 I mean our human minds and our intelligence 905 00:42:36,657 --> 00:42:39,315 in applying it to analyzing the data. 906 00:42:39,349 --> 00:42:42,076 - So here's the first one right here, 907 00:42:42,111 --> 00:42:45,597 and the night was pretty clear, so you have to be careful 908 00:42:45,632 --> 00:42:47,081 not to be fooled 909 00:42:47,116 --> 00:42:49,912 by a lot of fuzzy splashes, obviously stars. 910 00:42:49,946 --> 00:42:52,604 You'll also see a lot of fast objects go by, 911 00:42:52,639 --> 00:42:56,194 which I'm pretty sure are meteors, but what is that? 912 00:42:56,228 --> 00:42:57,402 - No, that's- 913 00:42:57,436 --> 00:42:59,231 - What is that slow moving object? 914 00:42:59,266 --> 00:43:00,474 - And it's changing speed, 915 00:43:00,508 --> 00:43:02,580 it just slowed down and curved a little bit. 916 00:43:02,614 --> 00:43:04,961 - It's changing angle and it's not blinking. 917 00:43:04,996 --> 00:43:06,629 It's not blinking like an airplane would, 918 00:43:06,653 --> 00:43:07,757 with airplane lights. 919 00:43:08,655 --> 00:43:10,864 - Part of the scientific analysis 920 00:43:10,898 --> 00:43:13,280 is to carefully rule out objects 921 00:43:13,314 --> 00:43:15,765 that can easily be taken for UFOs. 922 00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:19,424 For example, a human made advanced technology, 923 00:43:19,458 --> 00:43:22,600 or a mirage-like object, or an aura 924 00:43:22,634 --> 00:43:27,605 that can easily mimic a UFO because of reflectivity 925 00:43:28,675 --> 00:43:31,470 or some other atmospheric event. 926 00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:37,753 - There is a phenomena that you haven't mentioned. 927 00:43:37,787 --> 00:43:38,754 - Yes? 928 00:43:38,788 --> 00:43:43,448 - We know that whales sing songs. 929 00:43:43,482 --> 00:43:45,484 And we know that whales can hear them 930 00:43:46,727 --> 00:43:48,522 across the ocean, 1,000 miles away. 931 00:43:49,730 --> 00:43:52,595 The sound bounces off layers 932 00:43:52,630 --> 00:43:55,184 of water of different temperatures, 933 00:43:55,218 --> 00:43:58,497 and then can be heart many miles away. 934 00:43:58,532 --> 00:44:00,361 That same phenomena applies to light. 935 00:44:00,396 --> 00:44:01,511 You're aware of that, right? 936 00:44:01,535 --> 00:44:02,812 - Mm-hmm. 937 00:44:02,847 --> 00:44:05,712 - Fata Morgana is a mirage when people, 938 00:44:05,746 --> 00:44:10,268 and I've seen this myself, seen something on a rock 939 00:44:10,302 --> 00:44:12,960 or some distance away in the desert. 940 00:44:12,995 --> 00:44:16,481 And you could sometimes see a weird thing. 941 00:44:16,515 --> 00:44:18,656 And when you came upon it, it disappeared. 942 00:44:18,690 --> 00:44:20,761 Something happening over there, 943 00:44:22,004 --> 00:44:26,077 the light bounces off a hot layer of air over there, 944 00:44:26,111 --> 00:44:27,837 and appears over here. 945 00:44:27,872 --> 00:44:32,877 So those floating ships that we've seen, mirages, 946 00:44:34,119 --> 00:44:37,088 and many, many other objects, the explanation is that 947 00:44:39,193 --> 00:44:44,198 a lot of phenomena are natural and explicable. 948 00:44:45,717 --> 00:44:49,687 Now, it's also possible that some of these phenomena 949 00:44:50,342 --> 00:44:51,654 aren't explained, 950 00:44:51,689 --> 00:44:53,459 and that's what you're applying yourself to. 951 00:44:53,483 --> 00:44:56,107 - That's the idea of this research. 952 00:44:56,141 --> 00:44:57,625 - Right. 953 00:44:57,660 --> 00:45:00,111 - Is to explain the explainable that the average person 954 00:45:00,145 --> 00:45:02,907 would think is an anomaly, but in fact it's not. 955 00:45:02,941 --> 00:45:04,771 - Right. - Yeah, exactly. 956 00:45:06,013 --> 00:45:09,810 - When the normal average person looks up at the night sky, 957 00:45:09,845 --> 00:45:13,020 or even the daytime sky, and they see something 958 00:45:13,055 --> 00:45:16,437 that confuses them, typically they're making 959 00:45:16,472 --> 00:45:19,199 the cognitive jump right to a UAP. 960 00:45:19,233 --> 00:45:23,824 I can tell you for a 100% fact that we have technology 961 00:45:23,859 --> 00:45:28,691 that does some crazy things, that looks so unconventional, 962 00:45:28,726 --> 00:45:31,901 that the vast majority of the citizenry in this country 963 00:45:31,936 --> 00:45:34,870 have no idea what's actually flying in our skies. 964 00:45:34,904 --> 00:45:37,976 For example, Northrop Grumman's X47B, 965 00:45:38,011 --> 00:45:42,498 this is a mock 9-plus capable aircraft, 966 00:45:42,532 --> 00:45:45,846 it is shaped almost in an equilateral triangle, 967 00:45:45,881 --> 00:45:47,330 this thing has a service ceiling 968 00:45:47,365 --> 00:45:50,126 of roughly 40 to 50,000 feet. 969 00:45:50,161 --> 00:45:52,922 So at that altitude, you're not gonna hear sound. 970 00:45:52,957 --> 00:45:55,891 So the only thing that a person may be seeing 971 00:45:55,925 --> 00:45:58,479 is just the reflection of ambient light 972 00:45:58,514 --> 00:46:01,862 from the surface of the aircraft, which makes it look as if 973 00:46:01,897 --> 00:46:05,555 there is an illuminated triangle flying across the sky. 974 00:46:05,590 --> 00:46:08,869 One of the other examples of a drone 975 00:46:08,904 --> 00:46:10,837 that most people don't know about 976 00:46:10,871 --> 00:46:12,459 is Northrop Grumman's Bat. 977 00:46:12,493 --> 00:46:16,463 They're much, much smaller, the Bat could probably fit 978 00:46:16,497 --> 00:46:18,706 in the trunk of my vehicle. 979 00:46:18,741 --> 00:46:23,711 So these things can be launched from a catapult on a ship 980 00:46:24,989 --> 00:46:26,967 with without having to have a runway or a flight deck. 981 00:46:26,991 --> 00:46:29,062 They are propeller-powered, electrically-driven, 982 00:46:29,096 --> 00:46:32,755 and they have an endurance of up to 18 hours. 983 00:46:32,790 --> 00:46:36,932 So this is a drone that has a small battery pack, 984 00:46:36,966 --> 00:46:41,246 but it still maintains very robust sensor capability, 985 00:46:41,281 --> 00:46:45,112 and an extended duration of almost 20 hours 986 00:46:45,147 --> 00:46:47,252 of flight time, giving it the capability 987 00:46:47,287 --> 00:46:49,876 of getting out to sea, potentially swarming 988 00:46:49,910 --> 00:46:52,637 around a vessel, and returning. 989 00:46:52,671 --> 00:46:55,295 The things that the Tic Tac was doing, 990 00:46:55,329 --> 00:46:59,955 in my understanding of aircraft and flight dynamics, 991 00:46:59,989 --> 00:47:01,888 we still are not at that level. 992 00:47:11,794 --> 00:47:12,553 - Thanks for coming out, Ryan. 993 00:47:12,588 --> 00:47:14,003 - No, no problem. 994 00:47:14,038 --> 00:47:16,903 - I'll sit down and pick your brain for little while. 995 00:47:16,937 --> 00:47:17,835 - Sounds good. 996 00:47:17,869 --> 00:47:18,950 - Right, so it's been a while. 997 00:47:18,974 --> 00:47:20,285 - It has been. 998 00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:22,978 - Thanks for coming by, ship mate, I appreciate 999 00:47:23,012 --> 00:47:26,326 you visiting us here while we're doing our research. 1000 00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:29,087 You were on board when commander Fravor did 1001 00:47:29,122 --> 00:47:32,470 his famous intercept and the Tic Tac video was created. 1002 00:47:32,504 --> 00:47:33,851 - Yes. 1003 00:47:33,885 --> 00:47:36,888 - Could you walk me through exactly how you found out, 1004 00:47:36,923 --> 00:47:38,856 like what you were doing on board? 1005 00:47:38,890 --> 00:47:40,340 I honestly never had met you 1006 00:47:40,374 --> 00:47:42,031 and it's a pretty small ship, so. 1007 00:47:42,066 --> 00:47:43,101 - Right. 1008 00:47:43,136 --> 00:47:44,654 I was part of the air detachment, 1009 00:47:44,689 --> 00:47:47,381 I was leading petty officer of HSL 43S detachment 1010 00:47:47,416 --> 00:47:49,107 on board with you guys on the Princeton. 1011 00:47:49,142 --> 00:47:51,903 I had actually been in combat at the time on the phone 1012 00:47:51,938 --> 00:47:54,181 with the command back home because we needed 1013 00:47:54,216 --> 00:47:55,734 something for our aircraft. 1014 00:47:55,769 --> 00:47:57,875 So we were working out the logistics of that. 1015 00:47:57,909 --> 00:48:00,808 During that timeframe, the intercept was going on, 1016 00:48:00,843 --> 00:48:02,510 there was radar screens, so I was able to see that. 1017 00:48:02,534 --> 00:48:04,571 And then of course, all of the commotion, 1018 00:48:05,779 --> 00:48:07,574 and what was going on around me during 1019 00:48:07,608 --> 00:48:10,542 that timeframe was definitely heightened. 1020 00:48:10,577 --> 00:48:15,409 - Were you there when the civilians had come on board? 1021 00:48:15,444 --> 00:48:19,379 I refer to 'em now as the men in khaki because, 1022 00:48:19,413 --> 00:48:22,416 - Right, so yeah, I was there when they showed up. 1023 00:48:22,451 --> 00:48:25,523 I was in the hangar during flight ops, they came in, 1024 00:48:25,557 --> 00:48:28,008 walked pretty much straight out of the hangar and left, 1025 00:48:28,043 --> 00:48:31,943 came back short time later with some bags and took off. 1026 00:48:31,978 --> 00:48:34,232 Well, I can fill you in on what they took. 1027 00:48:34,256 --> 00:48:35,533 - Yeah, I know you can do that. 1028 00:48:35,567 --> 00:48:37,984 - Yeah, all of our data are recording. 1029 00:48:38,018 --> 00:48:42,989 So now that you saw the Tic Tac video and the GIMBAL videos 1030 00:48:44,611 --> 00:48:47,200 and all the stuff that we know about what actually happened, 1031 00:48:47,234 --> 00:48:50,548 and the flight characteristics of what it could actually do, 1032 00:48:50,582 --> 00:48:52,964 you being really familiar with aircraft being 1033 00:48:52,999 --> 00:48:56,934 in the air deck, what did you think about it? 1034 00:48:56,968 --> 00:49:00,868 - What I thought about it is there's absolutely no aircraft 1035 00:49:00,903 --> 00:49:03,457 that can do what those things were doing 1036 00:49:03,492 --> 00:49:05,977 that I know of or have seen. 1037 00:49:06,012 --> 00:49:08,669 - So no nobody wants to be the UFO guy, 1038 00:49:08,704 --> 00:49:12,466 and it's usually hard to talk about anyways. 1039 00:49:13,778 --> 00:49:16,125 What made you be able to get over all that, 1040 00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:17,230 to talk about it? 1041 00:49:17,264 --> 00:49:18,586 Was there a real big stigma in the air deck 1042 00:49:18,610 --> 00:49:20,095 about stuff like that? 1043 00:49:20,129 --> 00:49:22,073 - Well, there's always a stigma when you talk about UFOs, 1044 00:49:22,097 --> 00:49:24,720 it doesn't matter if people believe you or not, 1045 00:49:24,754 --> 00:49:27,102 you're gonna get something for it. 1046 00:49:27,136 --> 00:49:30,070 - I always planning on making a full second career 1047 00:49:30,105 --> 00:49:32,831 in the department of defense as a contractor, 1048 00:49:32,866 --> 00:49:34,902 but because I was clowned and ridiculed 1049 00:49:34,937 --> 00:49:37,112 and kinda lost my reputation a little bit, 1050 00:49:37,146 --> 00:49:40,598 it destroyed me almost. 1051 00:49:40,632 --> 00:49:41,989 I saw this video on the TV guys like, 1052 00:49:42,013 --> 00:49:46,190 "Oh my freakin' God, it's happening?" 1053 00:49:46,224 --> 00:49:49,089 And I dropped the plate of food and I jumped on the internet 1054 00:49:49,124 --> 00:49:51,885 and found out what had just happened. 1055 00:49:51,919 --> 00:49:53,199 That moment shook me to the core 1056 00:49:53,231 --> 00:49:55,578 'cause I knew my life was about to change again. 1057 00:49:55,613 --> 00:49:58,374 I had gone through all this pain and suffering if you will, 1058 00:49:58,409 --> 00:50:01,170 so I feel validated right now. 1059 00:50:04,104 --> 00:50:06,900 - My thing is is, I saw what I saw, 1060 00:50:06,934 --> 00:50:08,695 and I can't unsee what I saw. 1061 00:50:08,729 --> 00:50:13,079 And if I saw it, then it happened, and I wanna back that up. 1062 00:50:13,113 --> 00:50:16,634 - For me, I was lucky that I didn't have the level 1063 00:50:16,668 --> 00:50:18,877 of PTSD that some of the other guys did, 1064 00:50:18,912 --> 00:50:23,917 but instead of trying to make this public, I internalized. 1065 00:50:24,745 --> 00:50:26,678 For a long time after the event, 1066 00:50:26,713 --> 00:50:30,199 I was emotionally completely voided. 1067 00:50:30,234 --> 00:50:35,239 I didn't really care, honestly, whether I lived or died, 1068 00:50:36,757 --> 00:50:40,347 or whether or not anybody wanted to have a relationship 1069 00:50:40,382 --> 00:50:42,384 with me, nor was I capable of having 1070 00:50:42,418 --> 00:50:44,869 any type of interpersonal relationship. 1071 00:50:44,903 --> 00:50:47,389 - We need to tell the truth about the things that we see. 1072 00:50:47,423 --> 00:50:49,632 - Yeah, and that's the one thing that really bugs 1073 00:50:49,667 --> 00:50:53,636 a lot of us about that too, is that we couldn't tell 1074 00:50:53,671 --> 00:50:56,087 the ops whole truth about things. 1075 00:50:56,122 --> 00:50:57,720 And if you did, nobody would believe you 'cause 1076 00:50:57,744 --> 00:50:59,101 the government didn't tell the truth either. 1077 00:50:59,125 --> 00:51:00,298 - Of course. 1078 00:51:00,333 --> 00:51:02,069 - Well, so do you wanna see what we gotta go going upstairs? 1079 00:51:02,093 --> 00:51:03,208 - All right, I'd love to see it. 1080 00:51:03,232 --> 00:51:04,509 - All right, let's go do it. 1081 00:51:10,412 --> 00:51:13,346 - Every step we make towards finding out 1082 00:51:13,380 --> 00:51:16,418 what these Navy Tic Tac objects are about 1083 00:51:16,452 --> 00:51:20,974 is a step towards these guys' recovery in a way. 1084 00:51:21,008 --> 00:51:26,048 In coming to terms with the event that changed their lives, 1085 00:51:27,187 --> 00:51:30,432 I feel, with this mission, we are uncovering 1086 00:51:30,466 --> 00:51:33,297 more and more pieces of the puzzle 1087 00:51:33,331 --> 00:51:37,094 that will hopefully someday bring some answers 1088 00:51:37,128 --> 00:51:39,889 to these very strange events. 1089 00:51:42,064 --> 00:51:45,999 We are four days in the expedition, I am getting 1090 00:51:46,033 --> 00:51:49,209 really excited about the results we have so far. 1091 00:51:49,244 --> 00:51:51,246 Hopefully we'll have more tomorrow. 1092 00:51:51,280 --> 00:51:53,834 Meanwhile, David Mason's inventions 1093 00:51:53,869 --> 00:51:56,872 that convert light to sound and sound to light 1094 00:51:56,906 --> 00:51:59,806 have been operational 24/7. 1095 00:51:59,840 --> 00:52:03,154 They've been capturing the light that comes from objects 1096 00:52:03,189 --> 00:52:05,432 in the sky, and retransmitting 1097 00:52:05,467 --> 00:52:09,298 the same pattern back to space nonstop. 1098 00:52:09,333 --> 00:52:12,508 I decided to give it a try, and see if we could capture 1099 00:52:12,543 --> 00:52:14,959 the sound of an anomalous object, 1100 00:52:14,993 --> 00:52:19,722 and broadcast our own music and sound back to them in space. 1101 00:52:23,001 --> 00:52:24,324 - So that's the object. - So which star is that? 1102 00:52:24,348 --> 00:52:27,316 - You're looking at Altair, so if you aim the goggles 1103 00:52:27,351 --> 00:52:29,180 and keep it in the center field of view, 1104 00:52:29,215 --> 00:52:29,974 - Right, right. 1105 00:52:30,008 --> 00:52:31,182 - Now you can hear it. 1106 00:52:31,217 --> 00:52:32,528 - Oh, yeah. 1107 00:52:32,563 --> 00:52:34,283 You can hear the rumble from it. 1108 00:52:35,462 --> 00:52:36,946 - Oh, there's an airplane. 1109 00:52:36,981 --> 00:52:39,639 Oh, I can hear the airplane, it's different. 1110 00:52:41,019 --> 00:52:42,480 Can you see over there, over there, can you see? 1111 00:52:42,504 --> 00:52:43,815 It's getting a different sound. 1112 00:52:43,850 --> 00:52:46,335 - It looks like it could be a satellite. 1113 00:52:46,370 --> 00:52:49,994 Oh wow, how cool. 1114 00:52:50,028 --> 00:52:52,307 So is this the middle one, is that the visible light? 1115 00:52:52,341 --> 00:52:53,377 - Yes. 1116 00:52:54,205 --> 00:52:57,208 So we have two different types of music 1117 00:52:57,243 --> 00:52:59,521 being transmitted on two different spectrums. 1118 00:53:00,694 --> 00:53:03,214 So it's kinda like radio stations 1119 00:53:03,249 --> 00:53:04,502 that have different frequencies. 1120 00:53:04,526 --> 00:53:05,975 So that way we can separate 'em out 1121 00:53:06,010 --> 00:53:07,494 and just put out different data. 1122 00:53:08,978 --> 00:53:12,465 - I am blown away by David Mason's inventions. 1123 00:53:12,499 --> 00:53:16,365 If we are able to capture the sound of objects in the sky, 1124 00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:20,231 then we can potentially identify the acoustic pattern 1125 00:53:20,266 --> 00:53:23,510 of a UFO, which can give us more information 1126 00:53:23,545 --> 00:53:25,892 about the properties of these objects. 1127 00:53:25,926 --> 00:53:28,998 And the music that we broadcast can reach 1128 00:53:29,033 --> 00:53:32,312 all points in space, and potentially a UFO 1129 00:53:32,347 --> 00:53:36,178 would receive our music as a mode of communication, 1130 00:53:36,213 --> 00:53:38,525 and hopefully will attempt to communicate back 1131 00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:40,251 with us here on earth. 1132 00:53:40,286 --> 00:53:44,221 The only way to find out if this mode of communication works 1133 00:53:44,255 --> 00:53:47,258 is to keep the devices running continuously, 1134 00:53:47,293 --> 00:53:49,847 and see if we can then correlate them 1135 00:53:49,881 --> 00:53:54,403 with an actual UFO siding in a measurable way. 1136 00:53:54,438 --> 00:53:56,233 That would be phenomenal. 1137 00:53:57,579 --> 00:54:01,272 - Day four, really tired, I hadn't been sleeping at all. 1138 00:54:01,307 --> 00:54:03,999 Other than that, we still got some more anomalous data 1139 00:54:04,033 --> 00:54:05,587 with the radiation detectors, 1140 00:54:05,621 --> 00:54:08,900 and we got the FLIRs going continuous still, 1141 00:54:08,935 --> 00:54:10,212 looking forward to tomorrow, 1142 00:54:10,247 --> 00:54:12,387 I'm gonna go catch a couple hours of sleep. 1143 00:54:31,337 --> 00:54:33,280 - Tell me when Gary gets here, so lemme catch some sleep. 1144 00:54:33,304 --> 00:54:35,755 - Already here. - You're too late. 1145 00:54:35,789 --> 00:54:37,757 Good morning. 1146 00:54:37,791 --> 00:54:38,999 - Morning. 1147 00:54:39,034 --> 00:54:40,311 That was all right. 1148 00:54:40,346 --> 00:54:41,968 Oh well, you still have to work. 1149 00:54:42,002 --> 00:54:44,108 Everything's starting to look up finally. 1150 00:54:44,142 --> 00:54:45,316 - Yeah, that's good, bro. 1151 00:54:45,351 --> 00:54:46,835 That's really good. 1152 00:54:46,869 --> 00:54:48,433 - It's good for everybody except the neighbors. 1153 00:54:48,457 --> 00:54:50,537 They think our equipment can see through their walls. 1154 00:54:51,460 --> 00:54:52,782 - Yeah, when the police come in last night, 1155 00:54:52,806 --> 00:54:54,394 they were a little concerned at first, 1156 00:54:54,429 --> 00:54:56,431 but then once we showed 'em what we had going on, 1157 00:54:56,465 --> 00:54:59,882 it was like, man, he was intrigued. 1158 00:54:59,917 --> 00:55:01,481 - Yeah, it must have been interesting since they sent 1159 00:55:01,505 --> 00:55:04,128 the other two up here too. 1160 00:55:04,162 --> 00:55:05,416 At least they all had a good time. 1161 00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:06,796 That's true, that's true. 1162 00:55:06,820 --> 00:55:08,305 All right, man, let's get to work. 1163 00:55:08,339 --> 00:55:09,202 - Let's get to work. 1164 00:55:09,236 --> 00:55:10,490 - How come it's always radiation 1165 00:55:10,514 --> 00:55:11,342 and they're never bringing coffee? 1166 00:55:11,377 --> 00:55:12,688 - Well. - Well, you know. 1167 00:55:15,484 --> 00:55:18,453 - Hey, we got an anomalous event for you to check out. 1168 00:55:18,487 --> 00:55:19,385 - Did it show up on FLIR? 1169 00:55:19,419 --> 00:55:20,489 - No, but you know what? 1170 00:55:20,524 --> 00:55:21,835 I think you can help us with it. 1171 00:55:21,870 --> 00:55:24,493 - Check it out, goes all the way down the coast, 1172 00:55:24,528 --> 00:55:27,393 turns around, tracks back up, that little black dot is us. 1173 00:55:28,670 --> 00:55:30,061 - Wait, what's on that orange path? 1174 00:55:30,085 --> 00:55:30,982 Is that- 1175 00:55:31,017 --> 00:55:32,363 - That's the flight path. 1176 00:55:32,398 --> 00:55:33,616 The historical flight path going down, coming back out, 1177 00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:35,504 veering out right over our roof. 1178 00:55:35,539 --> 00:55:37,644 - Oh, is that a helicopter? 1179 00:55:37,679 --> 00:55:40,198 - Yeah it's not a- - Helicopter 1180 00:55:40,233 --> 00:55:41,314 - It's a helicopter. - Yeah. 1181 00:55:41,338 --> 00:55:42,200 - But wait is- 1182 00:55:42,235 --> 00:55:43,857 - Just messing with you man. 1183 00:55:43,892 --> 00:55:45,480 - Couldn't this be copy as espionage? 1184 00:55:45,514 --> 00:55:47,205 - I called the company- 1185 00:55:47,240 --> 00:55:48,966 - much of a corporation yet. 1186 00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:51,382 That's a video of it going over the top of us. 1187 00:55:51,417 --> 00:55:52,349 - That's crazy. 1188 00:55:52,383 --> 00:55:53,384 - Yeah. 1189 00:55:53,419 --> 00:55:54,419 Get back to work, man. 1190 00:55:55,248 --> 00:55:56,007 - All right. 1191 00:55:56,042 --> 00:55:56,801 - So Gary? 1192 00:55:56,836 --> 00:55:57,457 - Yeah. 1193 00:55:57,492 --> 00:55:58,389 - Navy guy walks into a bar. 1194 00:55:58,424 --> 00:55:59,953 He's got a three-foot salami under one arm 1195 00:55:59,977 --> 00:56:00,988 and a poodle under the other. 1196 00:56:01,012 --> 00:56:02,462 - Yep, sounds like a good time. 1197 00:56:10,539 --> 00:56:14,060 - This has been hard, because it's a huge amount of work, 1198 00:56:14,094 --> 00:56:17,097 a huge amount of data and equipment, 1199 00:56:17,132 --> 00:56:21,239 but I'm getting really excited because David Mason tells me, 1200 00:56:21,274 --> 00:56:23,483 he recorded a flurry 1201 00:56:23,518 --> 00:56:26,383 of raining objects falling down from the sky. 1202 00:56:28,730 --> 00:56:32,906 Kevin Day said at one point it was raining Tic Tacs. 1203 00:56:32,941 --> 00:56:35,461 I don't know if these are the same raining Tic Tacs 1204 00:56:35,495 --> 00:56:38,015 that Kevin Day was talking about, 1205 00:56:38,049 --> 00:56:40,397 but it sure sounds very intriguing, 1206 00:56:40,431 --> 00:56:42,399 and I can't wait to find out. 1207 00:56:43,779 --> 00:56:45,367 - What do you guys got? 1208 00:56:45,402 --> 00:56:47,000 - We've got something really interesting here, Gary. 1209 00:56:47,024 --> 00:56:48,128 Now watch the screen. 1210 00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:51,546 What we have is objects that appear to be dropping 1211 00:56:51,580 --> 00:56:53,410 from the sky and, you see that? 1212 00:56:53,444 --> 00:56:55,584 It's just there momentarily and looks like 1213 00:56:55,619 --> 00:56:58,449 they're actually dropping into the ocean. 1214 00:56:58,484 --> 00:56:59,761 - That's crazy. 1215 00:56:59,795 --> 00:57:00,876 - And I've looked at this and I'm think 1216 00:57:00,900 --> 00:57:03,385 could this be a camera artifact? 1217 00:57:03,420 --> 00:57:06,250 However, there's a transition of decay time. 1218 00:57:06,284 --> 00:57:07,527 So this is very strange. 1219 00:57:07,562 --> 00:57:10,841 - So could these be like ice forming and dropping 1220 00:57:10,875 --> 00:57:12,532 into the water or, I mean. 1221 00:57:12,567 --> 00:57:15,501 - No, because what we're also seeing is it's transitioning 1222 00:57:15,535 --> 00:57:18,676 where it's appearing in the field of view momentarily, 1223 00:57:18,711 --> 00:57:20,298 and then disappearing, 1224 00:57:20,333 --> 00:57:22,818 but it's clearly having a trajectory that's downward. 1225 00:57:22,853 --> 00:57:24,579 - I'm seeing 'em come in and then out, 1226 00:57:24,613 --> 00:57:26,512 and then in again when they hit the water. 1227 00:57:26,546 --> 00:57:27,696 - It looks like they hit the water. 1228 00:57:27,720 --> 00:57:29,825 Looks like they illuminate in the water. 1229 00:57:29,860 --> 00:57:31,102 That's amazing. 1230 00:57:31,137 --> 00:57:32,321 Does this remind you of anything? 1231 00:57:32,345 --> 00:57:33,588 - Sure does. 1232 00:57:33,622 --> 00:57:35,313 It reminds me of the Tic Tacs from '04. 1233 00:57:35,348 --> 00:57:39,214 They would go from 28,000 feet down the sea level like that, 1234 00:57:39,248 --> 00:57:41,492 I mean just straight down, just like that. 1235 00:57:41,527 --> 00:57:45,462 - I first saw the first group of those, whatever they were 1236 00:57:45,496 --> 00:57:49,500 on the 10th of November and the intercept 1237 00:57:49,535 --> 00:57:52,296 with FASTGO flight happened on the 14th. 1238 00:57:52,330 --> 00:57:54,130 And I continued to see these things up until 1239 00:57:54,160 --> 00:57:56,783 about the 19th of November. 1240 00:57:56,818 --> 00:57:59,337 And they were always in groups of five to 10. 1241 00:57:59,372 --> 00:58:01,443 But if you were to add up all the groups, 1242 00:58:01,478 --> 00:58:03,583 there was about 100 of these objects. 1243 00:58:03,618 --> 00:58:05,585 - There were dozens of such tracks like this, 1244 00:58:05,620 --> 00:58:08,346 which correlate not only with high energies, 1245 00:58:08,381 --> 00:58:11,073 but also high rates in the cosmic watch. 1246 00:58:11,108 --> 00:58:14,352 - After we examined the videos that we recorded, 1247 00:58:14,387 --> 00:58:17,010 we were able to calculate the size of the objects based 1248 00:58:17,045 --> 00:58:21,739 on the camera field of view and the distance of the horizon. 1249 00:58:21,774 --> 00:58:26,433 We found that the objects were at least four feet across, 1250 00:58:26,468 --> 00:58:29,333 and falling at least at 5,000 miles an hour, 1251 00:58:29,367 --> 00:58:32,992 and the objects that were distant were measured out 1252 00:58:33,026 --> 00:58:36,858 at 69 feet across, and falling at a speed 1253 00:58:36,892 --> 00:58:39,550 of at least 84,000 miles per hour. 1254 00:58:39,585 --> 00:58:43,658 So even if we were off in calculations by 50%, 1255 00:58:43,692 --> 00:58:46,730 we have some extraordinary numbers that can't explain 1256 00:58:46,764 --> 00:58:50,078 this phenomenon as being something natural or known. 1257 00:58:51,251 --> 00:58:52,770 - Hey, you guys, what are you up to? 1258 00:58:52,805 --> 00:58:55,704 - They're showing me some basically objects falling 1259 00:58:55,739 --> 00:58:57,395 from the sky to the ocean. 1260 00:58:57,430 --> 00:58:59,708 They found some correlating data 1261 00:58:59,743 --> 00:59:04,057 with the radiation detection, and I mean, honestly, 1262 00:59:04,092 --> 00:59:07,198 it reminds me of the stuff we were seeing in '04. 1263 00:59:07,233 --> 00:59:09,028 - Wow! Tic Tacs? 1264 00:59:09,062 --> 00:59:10,201 It maybe Tic Tacs? 1265 00:59:10,236 --> 00:59:11,513 Maybe. 1266 00:59:11,548 --> 00:59:12,307 Caught on our cameras? 1267 00:59:12,341 --> 00:59:13,584 That's incredible. 1268 00:59:13,619 --> 00:59:14,975 - I mean, the fade out makes it look like 1269 00:59:14,999 --> 00:59:18,037 it is really something dropping from the sky, 1270 00:59:18,071 --> 00:59:20,591 based on the way it fades out. 1271 00:59:20,626 --> 00:59:21,903 - That's great. 1272 00:59:21,937 --> 00:59:24,077 Wow, we got a lot of stuff actually. 1273 00:59:24,112 --> 00:59:25,700 Honestly, I'm very surprised 1274 00:59:25,734 --> 00:59:26,597 about everything that we've got. 1275 00:59:26,632 --> 00:59:28,495 - You know, David yesterday, 1276 00:59:28,530 --> 00:59:31,050 we were doing all the night vision stuff. 1277 00:59:31,084 --> 00:59:33,259 - We just continuously broadcast 1278 00:59:33,293 --> 00:59:36,262 this over ultraviolet spectrum and white spectrum 1279 00:59:36,296 --> 00:59:37,539 and infrared spectrum. 1280 00:59:37,574 --> 00:59:39,058 - So let's say we've provoked it. 1281 00:59:39,092 --> 00:59:40,092 - We provoked it. 1282 00:59:42,233 --> 00:59:45,582 We have recorded objects falling down from the sky 1283 00:59:45,616 --> 00:59:48,239 at extraordinary speed that seem 1284 00:59:48,274 --> 00:59:51,967 to have similar characteristics as the raining Tic Tacs 1285 00:59:52,002 --> 00:59:54,970 that Kevin Day witnessed in 2004. 1286 00:59:55,005 --> 00:59:58,733 Our measurements of their size and speed also fall 1287 00:59:58,767 --> 01:00:01,736 within the same range as the findings made 1288 01:00:01,770 --> 01:00:05,084 by the scientific coalition of UAP studies, 1289 01:00:05,118 --> 01:00:09,536 as well as Dr. Knuth's scientific paper, "Entropy." 1290 01:00:09,571 --> 01:00:13,748 These in depth scientific analysis of the Navy Tic Tacs, 1291 01:00:13,782 --> 01:00:17,648 details similar estimated size and velocities 1292 01:00:17,683 --> 01:00:21,065 in the tens of thousands of miles per hour, 1293 01:00:21,100 --> 01:00:25,725 just like the objects we have captured on our FLIR cameras. 1294 01:00:25,760 --> 01:00:27,900 We are getting more validation 1295 01:00:27,934 --> 01:00:30,661 from other legitimate organizations 1296 01:00:30,696 --> 01:00:34,734 about potential UAP properties, which is exactly 1297 01:00:34,769 --> 01:00:39,428 what is needed for this level of rigorous research. 1298 01:00:41,707 --> 01:00:44,675 - So what kind of category do we think these things are? 1299 01:00:44,710 --> 01:00:47,333 Are they physical objects, a natural phenomena, 1300 01:00:47,367 --> 01:00:49,715 or are they mental manifestations? 1301 01:00:49,749 --> 01:00:51,820 Are we all imagining seeing these things? 1302 01:00:51,855 --> 01:00:52,821 I doubt that because we measure 1303 01:00:52,856 --> 01:00:54,305 with scientific instruments, right? 1304 01:00:54,340 --> 01:00:55,790 - Right. 1305 01:00:55,824 --> 01:00:57,560 We're not all being hacked, and spoofed on this. 1306 01:00:57,584 --> 01:00:58,793 - Yeah. 1307 01:00:58,827 --> 01:01:00,829 - So my thoughts are, it is from some 1308 01:01:00,864 --> 01:01:04,971 sort of intelligent creation and intelligent construction, 1309 01:01:05,006 --> 01:01:07,318 meaning it's a technological device. 1310 01:01:07,353 --> 01:01:09,666 It could be organic, it could be electromagnetic, 1311 01:01:09,700 --> 01:01:11,322 could be who knows what? 1312 01:01:11,357 --> 01:01:15,602 - On this hand it's ours, and on this hand, it's not ours. 1313 01:01:15,637 --> 01:01:17,812 And the answer lies somewhere in between. 1314 01:01:17,846 --> 01:01:19,917 So my mind right now is open. 1315 01:01:19,952 --> 01:01:21,850 If it turns out to be our stuff 1316 01:01:21,885 --> 01:01:24,025 or some other country's stuff, I'm good with that. 1317 01:01:24,059 --> 01:01:25,889 Okay, I have my answer. 1318 01:01:25,923 --> 01:01:28,857 If it turns out to be something not from this planet, 1319 01:01:28,892 --> 01:01:29,789 I'm good with that too. 1320 01:01:29,824 --> 01:01:31,204 Okay, I have my answer now. 1321 01:01:31,239 --> 01:01:35,726 - That stuff, knowledge, information, engineering, 1322 01:01:35,761 --> 01:01:38,108 that right now, to my knowledge, 1323 01:01:38,142 --> 01:01:40,213 nobody on this planet knows how to do it. 1324 01:01:41,042 --> 01:01:42,250 - Right. - Right? 1325 01:01:42,284 --> 01:01:44,735 So that suggests that it's somebody from 1326 01:01:44,770 --> 01:01:48,463 some other place has done this, or maybe other time. 1327 01:01:48,497 --> 01:01:50,603 - And I think that's an important point. 1328 01:01:50,637 --> 01:01:53,330 You mentioned earlier, the multiple cases, 1329 01:01:53,364 --> 01:01:54,883 you mentioned the Bassoon case. 1330 01:01:54,918 --> 01:01:58,266 That's from 1951, and you've got these objects moving 1331 01:01:58,300 --> 01:02:01,441 at very high accelerations and taking off at high speeds. 1332 01:02:01,476 --> 01:02:03,374 The pilot estimated it is leaving 1333 01:02:03,409 --> 01:02:07,240 at about 1500 miles an hour, and it was tracked on radar 1334 01:02:07,275 --> 01:02:10,140 from Newfoundland at 1800 miles an hour. 1335 01:02:10,174 --> 01:02:13,937 This is two years before the air speed record 1336 01:02:13,971 --> 01:02:17,250 of 695 miles an hour was broken. 1337 01:02:17,285 --> 01:02:19,770 So this thing was moving three or four times faster 1338 01:02:19,805 --> 01:02:21,358 than the air speed record. 1339 01:02:21,392 --> 01:02:23,843 - They're also now declassified reports thanks to FOIA, 1340 01:02:23,878 --> 01:02:26,535 mentioning flying white butane tanks. 1341 01:02:26,570 --> 01:02:28,641 That sounds like a lot like a Tic Tac to me. 1342 01:02:28,675 --> 01:02:30,235 And that was the late '40s early '50s. 1343 01:02:30,263 --> 01:02:31,886 Well, let me put this in perspective, 1344 01:02:31,920 --> 01:02:36,925 Einstein, Rosen and Polski came up with these concepts 1345 01:02:37,926 --> 01:02:41,861 in the 1905 timeframe, into later about 1913. 1346 01:02:41,896 --> 01:02:45,623 So in about 100 years, is all that humanity 1347 01:02:45,658 --> 01:02:49,731 has had a basic construct to say, 1348 01:02:49,766 --> 01:02:53,217 faster than like travel, worm holes, warp drives, 1349 01:02:53,252 --> 01:02:54,805 are even possible. 1350 01:02:54,840 --> 01:02:59,534 And it wasn't until 1994 that someone was clever enough, 1351 01:03:00,811 --> 01:03:04,228 Alcubierre came up with the warp physics that says, 1352 01:03:04,263 --> 01:03:07,714 "Okay, well the physics we've learned since 1905 tells us," 1353 01:03:07,749 --> 01:03:09,347 okay, maybe it is possible to do what they do 1354 01:03:09,371 --> 01:03:11,822 in Star Trek and other science fiction, movies and books, 1355 01:03:11,857 --> 01:03:14,652 but that's only 100 to 120 years. 1356 01:03:14,687 --> 01:03:15,792 - Yeah. 1357 01:03:15,826 --> 01:03:16,907 - Not thousands not millions. - The universe 1358 01:03:16,931 --> 01:03:18,898 is 13.7 billion years old. 1359 01:03:18,933 --> 01:03:21,211 There's a civilization somewhere near us 1360 01:03:21,245 --> 01:03:23,040 that's thousands of years old. 1361 01:03:23,075 --> 01:03:26,423 Their Einstein was 10,000 years ago, for example. 1362 01:03:26,457 --> 01:03:28,528 So where does that put them now? 1363 01:03:28,563 --> 01:03:30,634 - What if you have multiple civilizations 1364 01:03:30,668 --> 01:03:31,922 and they have different technologies? 1365 01:03:31,946 --> 01:03:32,912 'Cause they use different things. 1366 01:03:32,947 --> 01:03:34,534 - Of course they do. 1367 01:03:34,569 --> 01:03:36,340 The other thing that happens is, space gets compressed, 1368 01:03:36,364 --> 01:03:37,675 makes the distances shorter. 1369 01:03:37,710 --> 01:03:38,918 Space isn't empty. 1370 01:03:38,953 --> 01:03:41,921 You've got about one hydrogen atom per cubic meter. 1371 01:03:41,956 --> 01:03:43,854 So as you compress space at very high speeds, 1372 01:03:43,889 --> 01:03:45,752 you're no longer flying through a vacuum, 1373 01:03:45,787 --> 01:03:46,937 you're flying through a cloud. 1374 01:03:46,961 --> 01:03:48,445 At close to the speed of light, 1375 01:03:48,479 --> 01:03:50,965 it's gonna rip your ship apart in no time, 1376 01:03:50,999 --> 01:03:54,761 unless you have a technology that allows you 1377 01:03:54,796 --> 01:03:57,005 to travel through matter without affecting it, 1378 01:03:57,040 --> 01:03:58,938 like we actually see here with- 1379 01:03:58,973 --> 01:04:00,882 - That is an excellent point. - With crafts moving 1380 01:04:00,906 --> 01:04:02,493 through the air without sonic booms 1381 01:04:02,528 --> 01:04:04,150 or moving through water without splashes. 1382 01:04:04,185 --> 01:04:05,818 We observed that. - That's the other counter 1383 01:04:05,842 --> 01:04:07,482 that's always given. - That's always data. 1384 01:04:09,052 --> 01:04:11,951 - We made it guys, we got a lot of great data, 1385 01:04:11,986 --> 01:04:13,884 and I just wanted to let you guys know, 1386 01:04:15,196 --> 01:04:17,646 I'm very proud of the way that you guys have performed 1387 01:04:17,681 --> 01:04:20,857 above and beyond any expectations I could have ever had. 1388 01:04:22,099 --> 01:04:25,378 We got some great results, and let's start getting ready 1389 01:04:25,413 --> 01:04:26,966 for the next one. 1390 01:04:31,937 --> 01:04:36,976 - The past days have been very hard and very exciting. 1391 01:04:37,011 --> 01:04:40,497 We managed to capture multiple anomalies 1392 01:04:40,531 --> 01:04:45,536 in multiple locations, across multiple devices in real time. 1393 01:04:46,710 --> 01:04:49,644 This is a first in the field of ufology. 1394 01:04:49,678 --> 01:04:51,577 What are the odds that we would capture 1395 01:04:51,611 --> 01:04:53,993 the exact Navy Tic Tacs 1396 01:04:54,028 --> 01:04:57,755 that these guys saw over their ship in 2004? 1397 01:04:57,790 --> 01:05:00,897 Now it's up to the scientists to continue analyzing 1398 01:05:00,931 --> 01:05:04,728 the data over the next few weeks, and tell us more 1399 01:05:04,762 --> 01:05:07,006 about the properties of these objects 1400 01:05:07,041 --> 01:05:10,561 and what this phenomenon is really about. 1401 01:05:28,234 --> 01:05:28,994 - That's right. 1402 01:05:29,028 --> 01:05:30,996 - Hey guys, we made it. 1403 01:05:31,030 --> 01:05:32,480 - Hey, glad You're here. 1404 01:05:32,514 --> 01:05:33,940 You're gonna need to sit down for this, 1405 01:05:33,964 --> 01:05:35,148 'cause it's pretty mind blowing. 1406 01:05:35,172 --> 01:05:36,587 - Wow. - So grab a seat. 1407 01:05:36,622 --> 01:05:38,520 - Okay, we want anomalies. 1408 01:05:38,555 --> 01:05:39,763 Is this very different? 1409 01:05:39,797 --> 01:05:42,110 - Yeah, and the story starts with a list 1410 01:05:42,145 --> 01:05:45,044 of anomalous events in the cosmic watch. 1411 01:05:45,079 --> 01:05:48,392 So I made a list of all events that were 1412 01:05:48,427 --> 01:05:52,086 either high in energy, high in rate or both. 1413 01:05:52,120 --> 01:05:57,125 So the highest energy we recorded in the cosmic watch 1414 01:05:58,782 --> 01:06:03,787 was 43.37 mega electron volts, MeV. 1415 01:06:05,064 --> 01:06:06,662 So that's the highest we recorded the entire week. 1416 01:06:06,686 --> 01:06:09,482 It's sort of like the maximum for terrestrial radiation, 1417 01:06:09,517 --> 01:06:11,622 Two MeVs more, average. 1418 01:06:11,657 --> 01:06:13,141 - Oh wow. 1419 01:06:13,176 --> 01:06:15,016 - That high energy event I just mentioned was at 4:01 A.M. 1420 01:06:15,040 --> 01:06:16,593 - Right. 1421 01:06:16,627 --> 01:06:20,045 - At 3:59 A.M, this is what the UFODAP recorded. 1422 01:06:20,079 --> 01:06:22,392 There's a hole in the clouds, which, 1423 01:06:22,426 --> 01:06:24,635 it's not abnormal to have a hole in the clouds 1424 01:06:24,670 --> 01:06:29,675 that closes, but notice those strange dots within it. 1425 01:06:30,883 --> 01:06:33,023 And also if you go frame by frame, 1426 01:06:33,058 --> 01:06:35,025 it closes in a fraction of a second. 1427 01:06:35,060 --> 01:06:39,547 That seems to be too fast for natural cloud formations. 1428 01:06:39,581 --> 01:06:41,549 - For clouds to move in and close the hole, 1429 01:06:41,583 --> 01:06:42,975 they would've had to be going something 1430 01:06:42,999 --> 01:06:44,207 like 700 miles an hour. 1431 01:06:44,241 --> 01:06:45,484 - How far away was it? 1432 01:06:45,518 --> 01:06:46,702 - Yeah, I can show you a diagram, 1433 01:06:46,726 --> 01:06:48,694 I've made of the situation. 1434 01:06:48,728 --> 01:06:50,051 Yeah, so it's basic trigonometry, 1435 01:06:50,075 --> 01:06:53,112 we're using the known angles, so we know which direction 1436 01:06:53,147 --> 01:06:57,185 the camera's aiming, we know the field of view of the camera 1437 01:06:57,220 --> 01:07:02,156 and that hole was about 18 degrees above the horizon. 1438 01:07:02,190 --> 01:07:05,124 And so given a cloud ceiling of about 1700 feet, 1439 01:07:05,159 --> 01:07:06,884 you can say that that hole was 1440 01:07:06,919 --> 01:07:10,474 about 1.2 kilometers off the coast. 1441 01:07:10,509 --> 01:07:11,555 And so it's an elliptical hole. 1442 01:07:11,579 --> 01:07:12,476 - Okay. - It's 1443 01:07:12,511 --> 01:07:15,065 about 0.4 kilometers long, 1444 01:07:15,100 --> 01:07:17,654 and then about 0.1 kilometers wide. 1445 01:07:17,688 --> 01:07:19,966 It looks like it's a hole in the clouds, 1446 01:07:20,001 --> 01:07:22,072 or it could be a false streak cloud. 1447 01:07:22,107 --> 01:07:25,075 Those typically happen when you have 1448 01:07:25,110 --> 01:07:28,078 very high altitude clouds and a section 1449 01:07:28,113 --> 01:07:31,047 of the cloud that then spontaneously freezes 1450 01:07:31,081 --> 01:07:32,910 and then the crystals fall out 1451 01:07:32,945 --> 01:07:34,912 and leaves a hole in the cloud. 1452 01:07:34,947 --> 01:07:38,364 That isn't possible in this case because the cloud ceiling 1453 01:07:38,399 --> 01:07:40,849 was only 1700 feet and it wasn't cold enough 1454 01:07:40,884 --> 01:07:43,128 for it to be that kind of cloud. 1455 01:07:43,162 --> 01:07:45,751 A hole like that could also be explained from 1456 01:07:45,785 --> 01:07:49,582 an airplane or another aircraft flying through the clouds. 1457 01:07:49,617 --> 01:07:51,412 That can cause a hole as well. 1458 01:07:51,446 --> 01:07:53,931 We didn't have any aircraft going through at the time, 1459 01:07:53,966 --> 01:07:57,694 and the UFODAP cameras didn't pick up any craft. 1460 01:07:57,728 --> 01:08:00,179 Now the cameras did start recording because 1461 01:08:00,214 --> 01:08:01,870 they detected something. 1462 01:08:01,905 --> 01:08:06,185 - But when Jeremy slowed it down, there's also a new dot 1463 01:08:06,220 --> 01:08:08,118 that appears in the last couple frames. 1464 01:08:08,153 --> 01:08:10,914 Yeah, there are a few dots appearing, yeah. 1465 01:08:10,948 --> 01:08:12,122 - Yeah, there's one fresh, 1466 01:08:12,157 --> 01:08:15,091 there's one lonely fresh dot that appears. 1467 01:08:16,264 --> 01:08:17,714 - Did you check the radiation data 1468 01:08:17,748 --> 01:08:19,854 with any outside organizations? 1469 01:08:19,888 --> 01:08:22,201 - We did, we looked at the data from Fermi 1470 01:08:22,236 --> 01:08:26,550 the NASA spacecraft that looks at gamma-ray bursts 1471 01:08:26,585 --> 01:08:28,345 from distant astrophysical phenomenon, 1472 01:08:28,380 --> 01:08:30,175 there's no correlation there. 1473 01:08:30,209 --> 01:08:33,868 We did have to check also for solar activity. 1474 01:08:33,902 --> 01:08:37,941 This event is not correlated with the solar activity. 1475 01:08:37,975 --> 01:08:40,392 - So what about the FLIR? 1476 01:08:40,426 --> 01:08:42,083 Anything with the FLIR? 1477 01:08:42,118 --> 01:08:45,155 - Unfortunately, the FLIR about seven minutes before 1478 01:08:45,190 --> 01:08:49,746 this event took place, all eight FLIR cameras shut down. 1479 01:08:49,780 --> 01:08:51,127 We lost power. 1480 01:08:51,161 --> 01:08:53,750 And power was distributed from two different sources. 1481 01:08:53,784 --> 01:08:55,141 - I don't think it's a coincidence though. 1482 01:08:55,165 --> 01:08:57,512 This really bothers me, 'cause it reminds me of 1483 01:08:57,547 --> 01:09:00,791 how the phenomenon is often associated 1484 01:09:00,826 --> 01:09:04,899 with electromagnetic anomalies that cause things 1485 01:09:04,933 --> 01:09:08,592 to break, cars to turn off, and things like that. 1486 01:09:08,627 --> 01:09:13,321 That I think it's really convenient that the FLIR went down. 1487 01:09:13,356 --> 01:09:16,945 - How about the people who would say, well, maybe there's 1488 01:09:16,980 --> 01:09:19,224 something malfunctioning with the camera? 1489 01:09:19,258 --> 01:09:20,811 What would you say to that? 1490 01:09:20,846 --> 01:09:24,125 - We actually have, several minutes before the video 1491 01:09:24,160 --> 01:09:27,163 we looked at, we have another video that doesn't have 1492 01:09:27,197 --> 01:09:30,338 the speckles, but has the hole, several minutes before, 1493 01:09:30,373 --> 01:09:34,031 but then even better, we have the entire week's worth 1494 01:09:34,066 --> 01:09:37,138 of UFODAP video and imagery, 1495 01:09:37,173 --> 01:09:39,313 where it's functioning perfectly. 1496 01:09:39,347 --> 01:09:42,212 It's triggering on birds, it's triggering on planes, 1497 01:09:42,247 --> 01:09:45,181 and it even has a built-in classification system 1498 01:09:45,215 --> 01:09:47,010 where it says percentage probability, 1499 01:09:47,044 --> 01:09:48,460 it's a plane or a bird. 1500 01:09:48,494 --> 01:09:52,326 Not only that, we also have direct controls 1501 01:09:52,360 --> 01:09:56,813 from a nearly identical part of the sky, day and time, 1502 01:09:56,847 --> 01:09:58,435 no hole, just clouds 1503 01:09:58,470 --> 01:10:01,024 and the cameras functioning perfectly normally. 1504 01:10:01,058 --> 01:10:04,821 So there's just too many strange coincidences here, 1505 01:10:04,855 --> 01:10:07,651 with all the different events that stack together. 1506 01:10:07,686 --> 01:10:10,344 I mean, it's really easy to take one video and say 1507 01:10:10,378 --> 01:10:13,001 it's this or that, or it's not really anomalous 'cause 1508 01:10:13,036 --> 01:10:15,487 it can be anything, but it can't be anything. 1509 01:10:15,521 --> 01:10:17,247 Because we've done these calculations, 1510 01:10:17,282 --> 01:10:19,145 and we have these correlations. 1511 01:10:19,180 --> 01:10:20,260 So it's extremely unlikely 1512 01:10:20,285 --> 01:10:22,494 that it was a malfunction in the camera. 1513 01:10:22,528 --> 01:10:24,392 - Was there any correlative data with 1514 01:10:24,427 --> 01:10:26,808 like weather radar or anything like that? 1515 01:10:26,843 --> 01:10:29,466 - Yeah, we were able to obtain weather radar 1516 01:10:29,501 --> 01:10:33,263 just before four o'clock, you see a large clump 1517 01:10:33,298 --> 01:10:36,715 of area where you have a lot of turbulence, 1518 01:10:36,749 --> 01:10:40,891 and so this is correlated with the presence of that hole. 1519 01:10:40,926 --> 01:10:42,272 The radar shows that there 1520 01:10:42,307 --> 01:10:45,517 was actually reflective objects in the area. 1521 01:10:45,551 --> 01:10:48,105 High energy particles in gamma-rays would've bombarded 1522 01:10:48,140 --> 01:10:51,247 the entire CCD chip on the camera, resulting in spots, 1523 01:10:51,281 --> 01:10:53,525 uniformly spread across the image. 1524 01:10:53,559 --> 01:10:55,906 As a result, these really appear to be physical objects 1525 01:10:55,941 --> 01:10:57,460 somehow appearing or materializing 1526 01:10:57,494 --> 01:10:59,427 in the hole in the clouds. 1527 01:10:59,462 --> 01:11:02,154 The radar returns suggests that we are seeing the objects 1528 01:11:02,188 --> 01:11:03,983 through the hole in the clouds at a distance 1529 01:11:04,018 --> 01:11:06,054 of about five kilometers away. 1530 01:11:06,089 --> 01:11:10,093 Thus, the objects are most likely about 35 to 50 defeat 1531 01:11:10,127 --> 01:11:14,373 in size, which is the estimated size of the Tic Tac objects 1532 01:11:14,408 --> 01:11:16,479 in the 2004 Nimitz encounter. 1533 01:11:16,513 --> 01:11:17,513 Wow. 1534 01:11:19,067 --> 01:11:23,106 - If you have something anomalous in different devices 1535 01:11:23,140 --> 01:11:27,283 at the same time, that reduces the probability. 1536 01:11:27,317 --> 01:11:31,287 This is why for example, I've never bought to the claims 1537 01:11:31,321 --> 01:11:34,359 that the, "Oh, the Nimitz encounter, that was just, 1538 01:11:34,393 --> 01:11:35,705 the radar didn't work." 1539 01:11:35,739 --> 01:11:39,018 So then the pilot's eyes were also deceiving them 1540 01:11:39,053 --> 01:11:42,919 at the exact same time the radar wasn't working properly? 1541 01:11:42,953 --> 01:11:45,266 And the radar wasn't working properly 1542 01:11:45,301 --> 01:11:47,751 at the exact same time the FLIR cameras wasn't. 1543 01:11:47,786 --> 01:11:52,722 It's just so absurd to claim that multiple devices 1544 01:11:52,756 --> 01:11:55,207 and multiple different imaging modalities 1545 01:11:55,241 --> 01:11:59,211 were all conveniently malfunctioning at the same time, 1546 01:11:59,245 --> 01:12:01,247 telling you the same thing? 1547 01:12:01,282 --> 01:12:02,801 That is absolutely insane. 1548 01:12:02,835 --> 01:12:06,839 - Well with all this, well, what is it? 1549 01:12:06,874 --> 01:12:10,395 - Because of how it looks like a hole that is open 1550 01:12:10,429 --> 01:12:13,087 and then closing, we've called it a wormhole, 1551 01:12:13,121 --> 01:12:16,677 which got me obviously extremely excited. 1552 01:12:16,711 --> 01:12:18,368 However, we have to be careful because 1553 01:12:18,403 --> 01:12:21,371 that would be obviously a major scientific discovery 1554 01:12:21,406 --> 01:12:23,546 that would require a great deal more evidence 1555 01:12:23,580 --> 01:12:25,375 than what we have. 1556 01:12:25,410 --> 01:12:28,999 Worst case, if it's not something tied in 1557 01:12:29,034 --> 01:12:31,485 with our main goal, looking for evidence 1558 01:12:31,519 --> 01:12:34,315 of non-human intelligence, this is a new phenomenon 1559 01:12:34,350 --> 01:12:36,041 that's no one's ever discovered. 1560 01:12:36,075 --> 01:12:41,080 This is an unidentified, unclassified new phenomenon. 1561 01:12:42,565 --> 01:12:45,257 We are adding to the UAP, unidentified. 1562 01:12:45,291 --> 01:12:50,331 - We're adding lexicon of unidentified objects. 1563 01:12:50,607 --> 01:12:51,884 - Wow. 1564 01:12:51,919 --> 01:12:53,438 - I forgot who it was who stated, 1565 01:12:53,472 --> 01:12:56,613 "Most scientific discoveries don't begin with Eureka, 1566 01:12:56,648 --> 01:12:58,201 they begin with, 'Huh'." 1567 01:12:59,029 --> 01:13:00,237 - Exactly. 1568 01:13:00,272 --> 01:13:01,560 That's exactly what we have here. 1569 01:13:01,584 --> 01:13:04,414 - It's one of those, "Huh, what the heck is that moment?" 1570 01:13:27,437 --> 01:13:30,475 - I think that interstellar travel's one of those things 1571 01:13:30,509 --> 01:13:34,271 that is not impossible, it's just really hard. 1572 01:13:34,306 --> 01:13:35,549 And it's not impossible, 1573 01:13:35,583 --> 01:13:37,999 even with the laws of physics as we know them. 1574 01:13:38,034 --> 01:13:41,589 What's so fascinating is that when I was six years old, 1575 01:13:41,624 --> 01:13:44,420 I thought that wormholes were real, 1576 01:13:44,454 --> 01:13:46,594 for interstellar transportation. 1577 01:13:46,629 --> 01:13:48,665 I called of them portals at the time. 1578 01:13:48,700 --> 01:13:51,737 They're, what got me dreaming of becoming a physicist. 1579 01:13:51,772 --> 01:13:55,672 And here we are today, we are turning science fiction 1580 01:13:55,707 --> 01:13:57,467 into real science. 1581 01:13:57,502 --> 01:13:59,296 We could be heading towards the biggest, 1582 01:13:59,331 --> 01:14:02,265 "See, I told you so," in history. 1583 01:14:02,299 --> 01:14:05,579 - In 1935, Einstein wrote a paper with his student, 1584 01:14:05,613 --> 01:14:10,411 Nathan Rosen, creating the Einstein-Rosen Bridge, 1585 01:14:10,446 --> 01:14:12,620 a bridge that in principle could allow you 1586 01:14:12,655 --> 01:14:14,622 to break the light barrier. 1587 01:14:14,657 --> 01:14:18,074 Take a black hole, which basically looks like a funnel, 1588 01:14:18,108 --> 01:14:20,490 and put two of them back to back. 1589 01:14:20,525 --> 01:14:23,907 Stick the two funnels together, and you now have a gateway 1590 01:14:23,942 --> 01:14:25,633 between two universes. 1591 01:14:25,668 --> 01:14:27,324 That would allow you in principle, 1592 01:14:27,359 --> 01:14:30,224 to go faster than the speed of light. 1593 01:14:30,258 --> 01:14:32,502 These are wormholes. 1594 01:14:32,537 --> 01:14:33,883 And are they possible? 1595 01:14:33,917 --> 01:14:35,540 Yes, but you would have 1596 01:14:35,574 --> 01:14:38,991 to be a very advanced civilization to do this. 1597 01:14:39,026 --> 01:14:40,072 - What we're seeing are things 1598 01:14:40,096 --> 01:14:43,306 that I think transient reality, 1599 01:14:43,340 --> 01:14:48,345 I come personally, to an area of multidimensional realities 1600 01:14:49,485 --> 01:14:52,349 of some kind that cross over periodically. 1601 01:14:52,384 --> 01:14:56,630 When they are here, the thing is just as physical, 1602 01:14:56,664 --> 01:15:00,944 when it's crossed over, it's physically there. 1603 01:15:00,979 --> 01:15:03,222 But when they separate again, it's not. 1604 01:15:03,257 --> 01:15:06,156 So when you ask the questions, where did it go? 1605 01:15:06,191 --> 01:15:08,642 Where, is not even the right question. 1606 01:15:08,676 --> 01:15:11,748 But it's very hard for us to contemplate things 1607 01:15:11,783 --> 01:15:14,648 that precipitate into physical reality 1608 01:15:15,614 --> 01:15:18,548 and then dissipate into apparent nothingness. 1609 01:15:18,583 --> 01:15:20,861 There's got to be other life forms out there, 1610 01:15:20,895 --> 01:15:24,381 it's my view that there are multiple phenomena 1611 01:15:24,416 --> 01:15:26,625 that are all interrelated. 1612 01:15:28,420 --> 01:15:30,940 - At the end of the day, we're trying to understand 1613 01:15:30,974 --> 01:15:33,011 the nature of our reality. 1614 01:15:33,045 --> 01:15:37,015 How things could be possible when they seem 1615 01:15:37,049 --> 01:15:40,570 to defy the laws of physics, as we know them today. 1616 01:15:40,605 --> 01:15:44,332 Our consciousness is entangled with space itself, 1617 01:15:44,367 --> 01:15:46,611 with everything that we witness. 1618 01:15:46,645 --> 01:15:49,683 But we can't deny an experience once we have it. 1619 01:15:49,717 --> 01:15:52,824 So perhaps our fascination with the mystery of UAPs, 1620 01:15:52,858 --> 01:15:57,035 could these be an extraterrestrial life form visiting us? 1621 01:15:57,069 --> 01:15:58,692 How are they getting here? 1622 01:15:58,726 --> 01:16:03,110 It is perhaps a way for us to understand who we really are, 1623 01:16:03,144 --> 01:16:06,734 how we fit within the bigger picture 1624 01:16:06,769 --> 01:16:10,151 in the cosmic map of the universe. 1625 01:16:10,186 --> 01:16:12,602 - What's a few thousand years to a galaxy 1626 01:16:12,637 --> 01:16:14,259 that is billions of years old? 1627 01:16:14,293 --> 01:16:17,711 There's other civilizations that could be millions 1628 01:16:17,745 --> 01:16:21,749 of years ahead of us, or perhaps millions of years behind. 1629 01:16:21,784 --> 01:16:24,614 That's the scale of the galaxy. 1630 01:16:24,649 --> 01:16:28,514 And that's why I believe they're out there. 1631 01:16:28,549 --> 01:16:31,103 And possibly even here. 1632 01:16:31,138 --> 01:16:32,898 Our main problem is that 1633 01:16:32,933 --> 01:16:36,592 we assume they're just as primitive as we are. 1634 01:16:36,626 --> 01:16:39,249 They can digitize their consciousness 1635 01:16:39,284 --> 01:16:42,701 and put it on a laser beam, and shoot the laser beam 1636 01:16:42,736 --> 01:16:44,461 at the speed of light. 1637 01:16:44,496 --> 01:16:48,914 What's at stake is our understanding of reality itself. 1638 01:16:48,949 --> 01:16:53,781 Our worldview could shatter with one credible incident 1639 01:16:53,816 --> 01:16:57,233 that cannot be refuted. 1640 01:16:57,267 --> 01:16:59,280 - The only explanation that makes any sense is that 1641 01:16:59,304 --> 01:17:02,031 there's something of higher intelligence 1642 01:17:02,065 --> 01:17:05,137 that's got advancement over our technology. 1643 01:17:05,172 --> 01:17:07,657 I think it's gonna change things of the world, 1644 01:17:07,692 --> 01:17:10,971 people are gonna understand there's something out there 1645 01:17:11,005 --> 01:17:14,630 that isn't us, it isn't harming us, 1646 01:17:14,664 --> 01:17:16,666 and we can learn from it. 1647 01:17:16,701 --> 01:17:18,392 This is a paradigm shift. 1648 01:17:20,739 --> 01:17:21,637 - Hi Bill? 1649 01:17:21,671 --> 01:17:22,707 - Hi. 1650 01:17:22,741 --> 01:17:23,984 - Good to see you again. 1651 01:17:24,018 --> 01:17:26,503 - I know I'm so looking forward to what you have have. 1652 01:17:26,538 --> 01:17:27,815 - Oh my God. 1653 01:17:27,850 --> 01:17:28,678 - Oh, really? 1654 01:17:28,713 --> 01:17:30,680 - Crazy. - That crazy? 1655 01:17:30,715 --> 01:17:31,612 - It's crazy. 1656 01:17:31,647 --> 01:17:33,821 - Don't waste another instance. 1657 01:17:33,856 --> 01:17:36,652 I need to see which you've got there. 1658 01:17:36,686 --> 01:17:39,827 - Okay, I've shown you some things before that we found, 1659 01:17:39,862 --> 01:17:41,829 that we're very, very interesting. 1660 01:17:41,864 --> 01:17:42,934 - Yeah. 1661 01:17:42,968 --> 01:17:44,739 It's not a bird, it's not a plane, it's not a blends- 1662 01:17:44,763 --> 01:17:46,834 - It's superman! 1663 01:17:46,869 --> 01:17:51,632 I mean, that has definitely been identified. 1664 01:17:51,667 --> 01:17:53,807 - I can't tell you how excited I am 1665 01:17:53,841 --> 01:17:54,670 to look at what you've got. 1666 01:17:54,704 --> 01:17:56,154 - It's incredible. 1667 01:17:56,188 --> 01:17:59,226 So keep your eye on this side of the frame. 1668 01:18:01,815 --> 01:18:03,255 - Yeah it's darker. - You see that? 1669 01:18:07,027 --> 01:18:09,374 - And then lightens up, and disappears. 1670 01:18:10,755 --> 01:18:11,790 - Uh-huh. 1671 01:18:15,863 --> 01:18:17,865 - Crazy! 1672 01:18:20,730 --> 01:18:22,456 It isn't crazy, it's crazy. 1673 01:18:22,490 --> 01:18:23,837 It's crazy. 1674 01:18:23,871 --> 01:18:25,701 - It's insane. 1675 01:18:25,735 --> 01:18:28,289 - Did anybody else analyze that? 1676 01:18:28,324 --> 01:18:29,843 - Everyone. 1677 01:18:29,877 --> 01:18:32,604 Don't forget, our scientists have taken all the data 1678 01:18:32,638 --> 01:18:35,503 for eight weeks nonstop, looking into 1679 01:18:35,538 --> 01:18:38,196 what could this possibly be? 1680 01:18:38,230 --> 01:18:41,717 This is radiation emission, and look at that. 1681 01:18:41,751 --> 01:18:42,752 - And there is a- 1682 01:18:42,787 --> 01:18:44,685 - Huge burst. 1683 01:18:44,720 --> 01:18:46,307 - Incredible! 1684 01:18:46,342 --> 01:18:49,897 - Exactly, of 43.37, that happens exactly at the same time, 1685 01:18:52,210 --> 01:18:57,215 as that opening and closing, then it correlates with radar. 1686 01:18:59,700 --> 01:19:00,908 - Right. - They saw 1687 01:19:00,943 --> 01:19:03,808 this cluster that happens to be exactly 1688 01:19:03,842 --> 01:19:08,329 in the location of that anomaly. 1689 01:19:08,364 --> 01:19:09,710 So- 1690 01:19:09,745 --> 01:19:11,608 - Okay, so you've got a spike in the radiation, 1691 01:19:11,643 --> 01:19:12,920 you've got a figure. 1692 01:19:12,955 --> 01:19:16,096 So what you're saying is that it's amorphous, 1693 01:19:16,130 --> 01:19:18,788 it opens and closes and contracts, 1694 01:19:18,823 --> 01:19:21,722 so it's nothing like we know. 1695 01:19:21,757 --> 01:19:23,689 It's nothing that is human knowledge. 1696 01:19:23,724 --> 01:19:24,794 - Exactly. 1697 01:19:24,829 --> 01:19:25,761 - Reporting at something and saying, 1698 01:19:25,795 --> 01:19:28,384 how mysterious our world is. 1699 01:19:28,418 --> 01:19:32,181 - This is what we think could be, 1700 01:19:32,215 --> 01:19:33,285 - Okay. 1701 01:19:33,320 --> 01:19:34,459 - A wormhole. 1702 01:19:34,493 --> 01:19:37,289 Some sort of gateway, some sort of- 1703 01:19:37,324 --> 01:19:38,946 - Wait a minute, wait a minute. 1704 01:19:38,981 --> 01:19:40,810 It's expanding and contracting? 1705 01:19:40,845 --> 01:19:41,811 - Yeah. 1706 01:19:41,846 --> 01:19:44,227 - Well a wormhole is a separation in time. 1707 01:19:44,262 --> 01:19:44,987 - Yes. 1708 01:19:45,021 --> 01:19:46,298 - Right? 1709 01:19:46,333 --> 01:19:48,035 And so that you can go through this separation, 1710 01:19:48,059 --> 01:19:50,268 you can go into another time zone. 1711 01:19:50,302 --> 01:19:53,236 - That is what the scientists are investigating. 1712 01:19:53,271 --> 01:19:56,757 That has never been explored before in this way 1713 01:19:56,792 --> 01:19:59,311 and recorded and measured. 1714 01:19:59,346 --> 01:20:00,461 - I think this that's wonderful. 1715 01:20:00,485 --> 01:20:01,451 - Yeah, yeah. 1716 01:20:01,486 --> 01:20:02,487 - I think it's glorious. 1717 01:20:02,521 --> 01:20:03,833 - Yes. - That you've gone to 1718 01:20:03,868 --> 01:20:07,837 all this time and expense, to look at phenomena, 1719 01:20:07,872 --> 01:20:10,153 that we don't know anything about, trying to measure it. 1720 01:20:10,184 --> 01:20:11,254 That's great. 1721 01:20:12,635 --> 01:20:14,395 That's just wonderful that you're doing that. 1722 01:20:15,293 --> 01:20:20,125 - I hope that with our endeavors out here, 1723 01:20:20,160 --> 01:20:24,164 that people will see that we can research this stuff 1724 01:20:24,198 --> 01:20:28,996 without negative consequences, and we can know 1725 01:20:29,031 --> 01:20:32,103 what these things are, and I hope that in the future, 1726 01:20:32,137 --> 01:20:35,106 that people will come together. 1727 01:20:35,140 --> 01:20:38,488 - It took a lot of work to get to the end of this thing. 1728 01:20:38,523 --> 01:20:41,837 At this moment, having proved what we did, 1729 01:20:41,871 --> 01:20:45,357 and to be successful, its hard for me to find in words. 1730 01:20:46,980 --> 01:20:51,985 I feel paid back and we changed the world. 1731 01:20:54,401 --> 01:20:57,542 - They went above and beyond my expectations. 1732 01:20:57,576 --> 01:21:01,580 They supported each other, they took care of any problems 1733 01:21:01,615 --> 01:21:06,516 and I just can't say anything other than, 1734 01:21:07,863 --> 01:21:10,520 they're absolutely amazing people. 1735 01:21:10,555 --> 01:21:12,971 - I've never seen anything like that before, ever. 1736 01:21:13,006 --> 01:21:15,422 It was something out of a movie almost. 1737 01:21:15,456 --> 01:21:16,882 And the fact that it wasn't military, 1738 01:21:16,906 --> 01:21:18,459 that it wasn't government, 1739 01:21:18,494 --> 01:21:23,050 the fact that it was normal people seeking answers, 1740 01:21:23,085 --> 01:21:24,741 I love that also. 1741 01:21:24,776 --> 01:21:26,398 Because they're accessible. 1742 01:21:26,433 --> 01:21:28,228 The government will always classify data, 1743 01:21:28,262 --> 01:21:30,506 the government will always hide data obviously, 1744 01:21:30,540 --> 01:21:32,094 but boom, there it is. 1745 01:21:32,128 --> 01:21:36,201 It's on a roof in California. 1746 01:21:37,030 --> 01:21:38,548 - Incredible scientists 1747 01:21:38,583 --> 01:21:40,999 are doing incredible scientific experimentation 1748 01:21:41,034 --> 01:21:46,039 and research, to see if there's more to this UAP phenomena, 1749 01:21:47,281 --> 01:21:49,766 and it's gonna change the culture in the world. 1750 01:21:49,801 --> 01:21:51,192 Scientists are gonna have to start taking 1751 01:21:51,216 --> 01:21:52,873 this more seriously, 1752 01:21:52,908 --> 01:21:55,220 if we're gonna get to the bottom of the phenomenon. 1753 01:21:55,255 --> 01:21:58,534 - And indeed we found evidence of strange events 1754 01:21:58,568 --> 01:22:00,432 that you can't explain away. 1755 01:22:00,467 --> 01:22:01,778 You're not gonna tell me 1756 01:22:01,813 --> 01:22:03,988 you have a radioactive bird or plane. 1757 01:22:04,022 --> 01:22:05,713 That's complete nonsense. 1758 01:22:05,748 --> 01:22:07,888 This phenomenon, whatever it is, 1759 01:22:07,923 --> 01:22:12,134 it's not a hoax and not an optical illusion. 1760 01:22:12,168 --> 01:22:15,309 - We have legitimate anomalies. 1761 01:22:15,344 --> 01:22:20,314 The next step in our jobs is to continue analyzing 1762 01:22:21,695 --> 01:22:24,422 the nature and the properties of these objects. 1763 01:22:24,456 --> 01:22:27,218 So that someday we can finally make 1764 01:22:27,252 --> 01:22:29,945 some definitive conclusions about 1765 01:22:29,979 --> 01:22:33,224 what this phenomenon is really about. 1766 01:22:33,258 --> 01:22:38,263 Is it natural, manmade or not of this earth? 1767 01:22:39,471 --> 01:22:42,647 - I believe we started something very important 1768 01:22:42,681 --> 01:22:45,270 in the field of UAP research. 1769 01:22:45,305 --> 01:22:50,068 If we discover the wormhole, a portal, a star gate 1770 01:22:50,103 --> 01:22:53,899 of some sort to other realities, or perhaps for now, 1771 01:22:53,934 --> 01:22:58,111 we can just call it a tear in the sky. 1772 01:23:08,017 --> 01:23:09,270 - Definitely some stuff going on 1773 01:23:09,294 --> 01:23:10,778 that we don't know about, for sure. 1774 01:23:10,813 --> 01:23:12,746 - I think there's other beings on other planets 1775 01:23:12,780 --> 01:23:14,023 that have visited us. 1776 01:23:14,058 --> 01:23:15,991 - No, I think no one's told us they visited us, 1777 01:23:16,025 --> 01:23:17,578 because we'd be scared. 1778 01:23:17,613 --> 01:23:19,511 - Some things, were not supposed to know. 1779 01:23:19,546 --> 01:23:21,041 - That's why they keep it a big secret, 1780 01:23:21,065 --> 01:23:22,756 that's why there's a conspiracy. 1781 01:23:22,790 --> 01:23:24,792 - Because they're way smarter than we are. 1782 01:23:24,827 --> 01:23:26,104 - No one's ready. 1783 01:23:26,139 --> 01:23:28,175 - They probably don't really wanna be associated 1784 01:23:28,210 --> 01:23:29,556 with a bunch of morons. 1785 01:23:29,590 --> 01:23:32,421 - They're definitely on some science that we're not at yet. 1786 01:23:32,455 --> 01:23:35,010 - Yeah, if anything, we've taken from them. 1787 01:23:35,044 --> 01:23:37,288 - They might be ahead of us or behind us. 1788 01:23:37,322 --> 01:23:38,530 We never know. 1789 01:23:38,565 --> 01:23:41,085 - Probably they have the iPhone 21. 1790 01:23:41,119 --> 01:23:42,810 They're just waiting till the time 1791 01:23:42,845 --> 01:23:44,847 to give that information to Apple. 1792 01:23:44,881 --> 01:23:46,090 - If hypothetically, 1793 01:23:46,124 --> 01:23:47,056 - Yes? 1794 01:23:47,091 --> 01:23:48,920 - A spaceship would land right now. 1795 01:23:48,954 --> 01:23:50,025 - Yes. 1796 01:23:50,059 --> 01:23:51,312 - And an extraterrestrial would say, 1797 01:23:51,336 --> 01:23:53,338 "Hey Bill, come on board with me." 1798 01:23:53,373 --> 01:23:54,615 - I would love to. 1799 01:23:54,650 --> 01:23:57,204 I would embrace that and say, "Come in peace. 1800 01:23:57,239 --> 01:23:58,205 We live in peace. 1801 01:23:58,240 --> 01:23:59,137 We want knowledge." 1802 01:23:59,172 --> 01:24:01,484 And I'd go into the spaceship 1803 01:24:01,519 --> 01:24:04,349 and let them give me a baby. 1804 01:24:04,384 --> 01:24:08,181 Oh, I love that. 1805 01:24:08,215 --> 01:24:12,012 - The next time you are kidnapped by an alien civilization, 1806 01:24:12,047 --> 01:24:14,359 for God's sake, steal something. 1807 01:24:14,394 --> 01:24:18,363 An alien hammer, an alien pencil, an alien paperweight. 1808 01:24:18,398 --> 01:24:20,227 There's no law against stealing 1809 01:24:20,262 --> 01:24:22,229 from an extraterrestrial civilization. 1810 01:24:22,264 --> 01:24:25,129 You're not gonna go to jail, and you'll have proof, 1811 01:24:25,163 --> 01:24:29,305 living proof that you've been in that flying saucer. 1812 01:24:29,340 --> 01:24:32,205 - I think it's extraordinary that you've spent your time 1813 01:24:32,239 --> 01:24:33,896 and your money doing that. 1814 01:24:33,930 --> 01:24:38,211 If we could explain something that humans don't understand, 1815 01:24:38,245 --> 01:24:42,560 and we have a valid certified explanation of something 1816 01:24:42,594 --> 01:24:46,253 that has been a mystery, and no longer is a mystery, 1817 01:24:46,288 --> 01:24:51,155 that only adds to this textbook of knowledge 1818 01:24:51,189 --> 01:24:54,917 that human beings are striving every day to fill. 1819 01:24:54,951 --> 01:24:57,299 And if you can fill that with one sentence, 1820 01:24:57,333 --> 01:25:01,234 let alone a chapter, it would be wondrous. 1821 01:25:01,268 --> 01:25:06,273 And I am filled with joy that you're making these forays 1822 01:25:08,241 --> 01:25:11,589 out into the stuff we see and don't see, 1823 01:25:11,623 --> 01:25:13,625 and trying to find an explanation. 1824 01:25:13,660 --> 01:25:16,973 That's wonderful, and I wish you well. 1825 01:25:17,008 --> 01:25:18,078 - Thank you. 1826 01:25:20,691 --> 01:25:22,691 >>>>oakislandtk<<<<< www.opensubtitles.org 143625

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