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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,827 --> 00:00:04,743 - So I'll pass it to you. 2 00:00:04,830 --> 00:00:07,746 ["Blueberry Hill" playing] 3 00:00:07,833 --> 00:00:12,099 [gentle piano music] 4 00:00:12,186 --> 00:00:15,928 - ♪ I found my thrill ♪ 5 00:00:16,015 --> 00:00:20,107 - This clip from 2010 has gone viral. 6 00:00:20,194 --> 00:00:21,891 - Oh, my God, his face. 7 00:00:21,978 --> 00:00:25,460 - ♪ On Blueberry Hill ♪ 8 00:00:25,547 --> 00:00:28,463 narrator: As Putin woos a star-studded crowd 9 00:00:28,550 --> 00:00:31,901 in St. Petersburg, the West seems oblivious 10 00:00:31,988 --> 00:00:36,558 to the true nature of this soulless dictator 11 00:00:36,645 --> 00:00:38,777 who will go on to sacrifice 12 00:00:38,864 --> 00:00:42,477 hundreds of thousands of lives. 13 00:00:42,564 --> 00:00:45,262 What were we thinking? 14 00:00:45,349 --> 00:00:49,092 What was he thinking? 15 00:00:49,179 --> 00:00:52,922 - It was all about how your ego is feeling. 16 00:00:53,009 --> 00:00:56,143 And that just gets in the way. It blinds everything. 17 00:00:56,230 --> 00:00:58,667 - As a psychopath, Putin's illness leads him 18 00:00:58,754 --> 00:01:01,365 to lack any normal human emotion. 19 00:01:01,452 --> 00:01:04,934 - He was always rejected. Okay. 20 00:01:05,021 --> 00:01:09,112 If they don't want me, then I will do it my own way. 21 00:01:09,199 --> 00:01:12,420 narrator: To understand what drives the most dangerous man 22 00:01:12,507 --> 00:01:15,727 on the planet, we're looking into Putin's mindset 23 00:01:15,814 --> 00:01:17,077 with a different lens. 24 00:01:17,164 --> 00:01:20,689 - He was always a shadow. He is a shadow man. 25 00:01:20,776 --> 00:01:25,128 And suddenly, you became a leader of this country. 26 00:01:25,215 --> 00:01:26,956 narrator: We will hear from the women 27 00:01:27,043 --> 00:01:29,785 closest to the fabulously wealthy men 28 00:01:29,872 --> 00:01:32,179 who were in Putin's inner circle-- 29 00:01:32,265 --> 00:01:34,094 the oligarchs. 30 00:01:34,181 --> 00:01:37,575 - They were all obsessed with the yachts, with private jets. 31 00:01:37,662 --> 00:01:39,142 - It was not about quality. 32 00:01:39,229 --> 00:01:40,970 It was all about price. 33 00:01:41,057 --> 00:01:43,233 - And they'd go, oh, you're from Russia. 34 00:01:43,320 --> 00:01:44,669 Putin. Yay! 35 00:01:44,756 --> 00:01:46,715 And you'd go, what are you talking about? 36 00:01:46,801 --> 00:01:48,934 narrator: It's a story about the men 37 00:01:49,021 --> 00:01:53,634 who put Putin in power, the ones who stood up to him 38 00:01:53,722 --> 00:01:56,289 and paid the ultimate price. 39 00:01:56,377 --> 00:01:58,553 [dramatic music] 40 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:01,730 These are women who dare to speak out. 41 00:02:01,817 --> 00:02:06,126 - I know I will not be going back home anytime soon. 42 00:02:06,213 --> 00:02:09,520 narrator: They saw through it all from the inside. 43 00:02:09,607 --> 00:02:11,392 - That type of character, 44 00:02:11,478 --> 00:02:14,134 they can absolutely lash out when they feel cornered. 45 00:02:14,221 --> 00:02:15,613 - I think he became really crazy. 46 00:02:15,700 --> 00:02:17,659 It did not happen just now. 47 00:02:17,746 --> 00:02:19,139 He just destroyed Russia. 48 00:02:19,226 --> 00:02:21,793 - He has a mission. This is clear. 49 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:24,666 - A person who is really ill doesn't really 50 00:02:24,753 --> 00:02:27,364 care about what happens next. 51 00:02:27,451 --> 00:02:34,328 ♪ ♪ 52 00:02:35,459 --> 00:02:38,158 [pensive music] 53 00:02:38,245 --> 00:02:40,377 narrator: London, England-- 54 00:02:40,464 --> 00:02:43,337 home to more oligarchs per square mile 55 00:02:43,424 --> 00:02:46,296 than anywhere outside of Russia. 56 00:02:46,383 --> 00:02:48,079 - So we're in Eaton Square now, 57 00:02:48,168 --> 00:02:50,605 which is sometimes wittily known as Red Square. 58 00:02:50,692 --> 00:02:54,609 And Londongrad or Moscow on Thames 59 00:02:54,696 --> 00:02:57,438 because this is where the Russians started 60 00:02:57,525 --> 00:03:02,007 flocking to in the early 2000s probably. 61 00:03:02,094 --> 00:03:04,967 narrator: English-born Countess Alexandra Tolstoy, 62 00:03:05,054 --> 00:03:09,406 descended from Russia's most famous writer Leo Tolstoy, 63 00:03:09,493 --> 00:03:12,192 has lived the fairy tale lifestyle 64 00:03:12,279 --> 00:03:15,673 as the partner of one of those oligarch elites. 65 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:17,632 - We're now approaching Hanover Lodge, 66 00:03:17,719 --> 00:03:20,852 which is the most beautiful John Nash building, 67 00:03:20,939 --> 00:03:22,550 Regent's Park. 68 00:03:22,637 --> 00:03:24,943 Andrey Goncharenko bought this in 2012. 69 00:03:25,030 --> 00:03:26,466 At the time, it was 70 00:03:26,554 --> 00:03:28,208 the most expensive property, 120 million. 71 00:03:28,295 --> 00:03:29,774 It's funny, Russians-- they've chosen 72 00:03:29,861 --> 00:03:31,820 very specific areas like Chelsea, 73 00:03:31,907 --> 00:03:34,823 Regent's Park, Highgate. 74 00:03:34,910 --> 00:03:40,220 But I suppose it's a sign of a newly developing elite 75 00:03:40,307 --> 00:03:41,873 that they have to follow each other. 76 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:43,310 You know, it's very much about prestige. 77 00:03:46,356 --> 00:03:48,706 narrator: Alexandra first met Russian oligarch 78 00:03:48,793 --> 00:03:51,970 Sergei Pugachev in 2006. 79 00:03:54,277 --> 00:03:57,498 "Forbes" magazine estimated Sergei's net worth 80 00:03:57,585 --> 00:04:01,458 to be over $2 billion. 81 00:04:01,545 --> 00:04:03,286 - The oligarch lifestyle, it was everything 82 00:04:03,373 --> 00:04:04,635 you probably expect it to be. 83 00:04:04,722 --> 00:04:06,071 It's private jets. 84 00:04:06,158 --> 00:04:11,512 It's Rolls Royces, chauffeurs, chefs. 85 00:04:11,599 --> 00:04:14,558 We had an amazing yacht, which was a Palmer Johnson, 86 00:04:14,645 --> 00:04:16,908 which is this very sort of sporty 87 00:04:16,995 --> 00:04:19,084 James Bond-type yacht. 88 00:04:19,171 --> 00:04:21,348 It was all beautifully decorated 89 00:04:21,435 --> 00:04:25,134 by this amazing decorator, full of art deco antiques. 90 00:04:25,221 --> 00:04:27,789 And all these toys-- 91 00:04:27,876 --> 00:04:31,009 jet skis and stuff like that. 92 00:04:31,096 --> 00:04:33,707 They all loved to holiday in exactly the same places-- 93 00:04:33,795 --> 00:04:36,537 it's the South of France, it's Saint-Tropez, 94 00:04:36,624 --> 00:04:38,713 it's St. Barts. 95 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:41,759 They're obsessed with Courchevel and skiing. 96 00:04:41,846 --> 00:04:43,761 And it's all about show. 97 00:04:43,848 --> 00:04:45,023 Someone said to him, do you want to go 98 00:04:45,110 --> 00:04:47,939 to St. Barts for New Year? And he said yes. 99 00:04:48,026 --> 00:04:49,550 We stayed in the Eden Roc Hotel, 100 00:04:49,637 --> 00:04:51,073 which is a very glamorous hotel. 101 00:04:51,159 --> 00:04:53,902 So Sergei always traveled with a bodyguard and a doctor. 102 00:04:53,989 --> 00:04:55,947 And wherever we were, they were two meters 103 00:04:56,034 --> 00:04:57,601 behind us following us. 104 00:04:57,688 --> 00:05:00,212 narrator: A hotel room wasn't enough for Sergei. 105 00:05:00,300 --> 00:05:02,214 The couple went shopping and ended up 106 00:05:02,302 --> 00:05:03,955 in a realtor's office. 107 00:05:04,042 --> 00:05:06,480 - And within half an hour, 108 00:05:06,567 --> 00:05:08,264 he'd chosen the biggest house on the island. 109 00:05:08,351 --> 00:05:11,354 I think it was 35 million euros or something. 110 00:05:15,489 --> 00:05:17,839 narrator: Alexandra quickly learned that Sergei 111 00:05:17,926 --> 00:05:20,885 had the ear of the most powerful man in Russia-- 112 00:05:20,972 --> 00:05:23,105 Vladimir Putin. 113 00:05:23,192 --> 00:05:26,326 - They spent hours talking to each other every day. 114 00:05:26,413 --> 00:05:30,765 And obviously, yeah, he had chosen Sergei 115 00:05:30,852 --> 00:05:33,376 as a particular confidant. 116 00:05:33,463 --> 00:05:35,073 narrator: Her relationship with Sergei 117 00:05:35,159 --> 00:05:37,685 has given her extraordinary insight 118 00:05:37,772 --> 00:05:43,168 into the ultra-elite world of the oligarchs who made Putin. 119 00:05:43,255 --> 00:05:45,301 - Sergei was like a microcosm of Putin. 120 00:05:45,388 --> 00:05:50,872 I mean, he had had far too much power even, you know, 121 00:05:50,959 --> 00:05:53,701 not of a country, but of his world. 122 00:05:53,788 --> 00:05:56,007 Wealth for him was extremely important 123 00:05:56,094 --> 00:05:57,226 because it was a way to be powerful, 124 00:05:57,313 --> 00:05:58,793 to control other people. 125 00:06:06,191 --> 00:06:08,150 narrator: Today, Alexandra is bravely 126 00:06:08,237 --> 00:06:12,284 speaking out about Putin and those in his orbit. 127 00:06:12,372 --> 00:06:15,636 But she is not alone. 128 00:06:15,723 --> 00:06:18,421 Another woman well connected to the community 129 00:06:18,508 --> 00:06:21,293 of billionaires who have fled Putin's Russia 130 00:06:21,381 --> 00:06:25,297 and made London home is Tatiana Fokina. 131 00:06:25,385 --> 00:06:28,649 One of them is her partner, Evgeny Chichvarkin, 132 00:06:28,736 --> 00:06:33,523 once worth over $1.5 billion. 133 00:06:33,610 --> 00:06:36,352 Together, they now own and run Mayfair's 134 00:06:36,439 --> 00:06:39,094 most exclusive wine shop down the road 135 00:06:39,181 --> 00:06:42,314 from the world-famous Ritz Hotel. 136 00:06:42,402 --> 00:06:44,795 It's a far cry from their humble beginnings 137 00:06:44,882 --> 00:06:48,058 in mother Russia. 138 00:06:48,146 --> 00:06:51,846 - From a human perspective, we need-- 139 00:06:51,933 --> 00:06:55,589 we need to understand that we all came from a country 140 00:06:55,676 --> 00:06:57,286 that had nothing. We had nothing. 141 00:06:57,373 --> 00:06:58,287 We were wearing the same clothes. 142 00:06:58,374 --> 00:06:59,854 I had maybe two dresses. 143 00:06:59,941 --> 00:07:01,769 I had no toys. 144 00:07:01,856 --> 00:07:06,426 And after that, imagine you get access to everything. 145 00:07:06,513 --> 00:07:08,340 And it's really tempting. 146 00:07:08,428 --> 00:07:10,517 And you want everything. 147 00:07:12,954 --> 00:07:14,477 narrator: But not all the Russian billionaires 148 00:07:14,564 --> 00:07:16,566 in London had to flee here 149 00:07:16,653 --> 00:07:20,265 to save their lives and fortunes. 150 00:07:20,352 --> 00:07:24,313 Some, like Roman Abramovich, one of Russia's richest men, 151 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:27,011 were here by choice. 152 00:07:27,098 --> 00:07:31,146 Rumored to be once worth $23 billion, 153 00:07:31,233 --> 00:07:33,540 he remains in Putin's good graces, 154 00:07:33,627 --> 00:07:37,065 even serving as his back channel in peace talks 155 00:07:37,152 --> 00:07:40,111 with the Ukrainian government. 156 00:07:40,198 --> 00:07:43,332 - He now has all these different properties in London, 157 00:07:43,419 --> 00:07:45,421 a beautiful Chateau in the South of France. 158 00:07:45,508 --> 00:07:47,162 I think he's got three yachts. 159 00:07:47,249 --> 00:07:49,512 [seagulls cawing] 160 00:07:49,599 --> 00:07:51,209 So now we're drawing up to the famous 161 00:07:51,296 --> 00:07:52,907 Chelsea Football Club, 162 00:07:52,994 --> 00:07:56,345 which was bought in 2003 163 00:07:56,432 --> 00:07:59,479 for 233 million by Abramovich. 164 00:07:59,566 --> 00:08:02,133 [announcer shouting indistinctly] 165 00:08:02,220 --> 00:08:05,310 [cheers and applause] 166 00:08:08,226 --> 00:08:10,141 narrator: Abramovich buys his way 167 00:08:10,228 --> 00:08:12,753 into the heart of British society 168 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:14,537 by acquiring one of the country's most 169 00:08:14,624 --> 00:08:16,800 prestigious football clubs. 170 00:08:16,887 --> 00:08:18,759 - I suppose Chelsea Football Club 171 00:08:18,846 --> 00:08:21,979 was the first huge Western asset 172 00:08:22,066 --> 00:08:25,896 to be bought by a Russian. 173 00:08:25,983 --> 00:08:27,594 I don't think it was controversial at the time, 174 00:08:27,681 --> 00:08:29,073 particularly, as he invested so much money in it. 175 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:30,379 He bought these amazing players. 176 00:08:30,466 --> 00:08:33,904 [cheering] 177 00:08:33,991 --> 00:08:35,775 Every Russian I knew, they wanted to go 178 00:08:35,863 --> 00:08:37,691 and sit in the box at Chelsea and watch a match. 179 00:08:37,778 --> 00:08:39,388 That was their sort of-- the most glamorous thing 180 00:08:39,475 --> 00:08:40,955 you could do in London. 181 00:08:45,220 --> 00:08:47,091 narrator: Unlike some fellow oligarchs 182 00:08:47,178 --> 00:08:49,180 who keep a lower profile, 183 00:08:49,267 --> 00:08:52,270 Abramovich has a taste for entertaining 184 00:08:52,357 --> 00:08:55,012 and likes to be surrounded by celebrities. 185 00:08:55,099 --> 00:08:57,232 - He had these famous New Year's Eve parties. 186 00:08:57,319 --> 00:08:59,626 I once went out with Demi Moore and Ashton Kutcher on a plane. 187 00:08:59,713 --> 00:09:01,497 They were coming into a party. 188 00:09:01,584 --> 00:09:05,153 And, yes, I met him. 189 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:07,982 Wearing a very casual shirt, looking like 190 00:09:08,069 --> 00:09:09,113 he was trying to be a bit of a raver. 191 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:10,462 It was funny, actually. 192 00:09:10,550 --> 00:09:11,420 And the Black Eyed Peas were there. 193 00:09:11,507 --> 00:09:12,595 I just remember very sweaty. 194 00:09:12,682 --> 00:09:14,989 And I did think, "God, it's funny." 195 00:09:15,076 --> 00:09:18,949 You're a--you know, he was an orphan in Siberia. 196 00:09:21,561 --> 00:09:23,258 narrator: But how did Abramovich 197 00:09:23,345 --> 00:09:25,173 and the select group of oligarchs 198 00:09:25,260 --> 00:09:28,045 who were responsible for Putin's rise to power 199 00:09:28,132 --> 00:09:31,788 make their fortunes in the first place? 200 00:09:31,875 --> 00:09:34,748 [inquisitive music] 201 00:09:34,835 --> 00:09:39,317 ♪ ♪ 202 00:09:39,404 --> 00:09:43,191 The oligarchs, like everyone in 1980 Soviet Russia, 203 00:09:43,278 --> 00:09:44,845 struggled to get by. 204 00:09:47,761 --> 00:09:50,720 Tatiana Fokina remembers. 205 00:09:50,807 --> 00:09:56,421 - I was born in Leningrad in 1987. 206 00:09:56,508 --> 00:09:59,207 So the union collapsed when I was four. 207 00:09:59,294 --> 00:10:04,125 And I still remember really Soviet times, 208 00:10:04,212 --> 00:10:06,083 virtually having no food, 209 00:10:06,170 --> 00:10:09,173 and queues for food for five hours, 210 00:10:09,260 --> 00:10:12,655 and, you know, literally eating potatoes 211 00:10:12,742 --> 00:10:14,570 for weeks and weeks and weeks when I was little. 212 00:10:17,617 --> 00:10:21,229 narrator: After decades of prioritizing military spending 213 00:10:21,316 --> 00:10:23,927 at the expense of civilian society, 214 00:10:24,014 --> 00:10:26,364 President Mikhail Gorbachev understood 215 00:10:26,451 --> 00:10:29,106 that an arms race with the United States 216 00:10:29,193 --> 00:10:31,805 was not winnable. 217 00:10:31,892 --> 00:10:35,722 - Mr. Gorbachev, open this gate. 218 00:10:35,809 --> 00:10:38,638 [cheers and applause] 219 00:10:41,597 --> 00:10:45,688 Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall. 220 00:10:45,775 --> 00:10:49,083 [cheers and applause] 221 00:10:49,170 --> 00:10:52,434 narrator: Suddenly, in November 1989, 222 00:10:52,521 --> 00:10:54,741 the Berlin Wall fell. 223 00:10:54,828 --> 00:10:57,091 And from Moscow to East Berlin, 224 00:10:57,178 --> 00:10:59,223 a new era would begin. 225 00:10:59,310 --> 00:11:03,097 ♪ ♪ 226 00:11:03,184 --> 00:11:06,709 Vladimir Putin was a 37-year-old officer 227 00:11:06,796 --> 00:11:09,712 in the Soviet spy agency the KGB, 228 00:11:09,799 --> 00:11:11,845 based in Dresden, East Germany, 229 00:11:11,932 --> 00:11:13,455 when the Soviet Union collapsed. 230 00:11:16,545 --> 00:11:19,504 A phone call from an old friend brought him back 231 00:11:19,591 --> 00:11:22,943 to his hometown of Leningrad, whose pre-Soviet name, 232 00:11:23,030 --> 00:11:26,424 St. Petersburg, was then restored. 233 00:11:26,511 --> 00:11:29,253 For him, free market capitalism 234 00:11:29,340 --> 00:11:32,126 had meant a loss of status. 235 00:11:32,213 --> 00:11:36,739 But his fortunes were about to change dramatically. 236 00:11:36,826 --> 00:11:39,394 Ksenia Sobchak was just a child 237 00:11:39,481 --> 00:11:42,136 when her father, Anatoly Sobchak, 238 00:11:42,223 --> 00:11:47,097 became the first elected mayor of St. Petersburg in 1991. 239 00:11:47,184 --> 00:11:53,234 - He was one of the main democrats of a new Russia. 240 00:11:53,321 --> 00:11:57,151 He worked shoulder to shoulder with Boris Yeltsin. 241 00:11:57,238 --> 00:12:02,286 So in the years when my father was active in politics, 242 00:12:02,373 --> 00:12:06,247 I was around 11 years old. 243 00:12:06,334 --> 00:12:08,902 narrator: Ksenia observed her father's political career 244 00:12:08,989 --> 00:12:11,513 from an early age. 245 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:15,604 She recalls how he threw an old friend a lifeline. 246 00:12:15,691 --> 00:12:19,347 - Putin was a guy whom he met in university. 247 00:12:19,434 --> 00:12:21,392 And he did some work for him, 248 00:12:21,479 --> 00:12:23,307 and he liked the way he did it. 249 00:12:23,394 --> 00:12:25,570 He always said about Putin as being 250 00:12:25,657 --> 00:12:31,576 very efficient and very responsible 251 00:12:31,663 --> 00:12:33,317 for what he was doing. 252 00:12:35,015 --> 00:12:36,625 narrator: As deputy mayor, 253 00:12:36,712 --> 00:12:39,019 Putin quickly impressed his mentor, 254 00:12:39,106 --> 00:12:42,065 easing a citywide food crisis 255 00:12:42,152 --> 00:12:45,242 by trading Russian minerals overseas to countries 256 00:12:45,329 --> 00:12:48,550 that sent back potatoes. 257 00:12:48,637 --> 00:12:52,075 - I understand why my father respected him so much. 258 00:12:52,162 --> 00:12:55,949 Being in the limelight, doing political, 259 00:12:56,036 --> 00:13:01,650 you know, work, being a mayor, which is a quite public thing. 260 00:13:01,737 --> 00:13:06,481 You always have this guy who doesn't want any light on him, 261 00:13:06,568 --> 00:13:08,657 but he was ready to work hard. 262 00:13:08,744 --> 00:13:10,833 I would never believe if someone 263 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:14,750 would say this guy would be ruling Russia 264 00:13:14,837 --> 00:13:16,839 for more than 20 years. 265 00:13:16,926 --> 00:13:19,581 I would never ever believe. 266 00:13:19,668 --> 00:13:22,279 narrator: Some city officials suspected Putin 267 00:13:22,366 --> 00:13:24,847 was also selling food on the black market 268 00:13:24,934 --> 00:13:26,588 and pocketing the money, 269 00:13:26,675 --> 00:13:30,374 exploiting a new era of entrepreneurship. 270 00:13:30,461 --> 00:13:32,855 - The '90s years in Russia 271 00:13:32,942 --> 00:13:36,554 were the only years when there was real freedom 272 00:13:36,641 --> 00:13:39,819 and a lot of possibilities. 273 00:13:39,906 --> 00:13:42,430 - There was a time of unique opportunities 274 00:13:42,517 --> 00:13:45,128 that presented themselves when the Union collapsed. 275 00:13:45,215 --> 00:13:49,002 And, you know, things were for grabs. 276 00:13:49,089 --> 00:13:53,441 And did everyone have the courage, the skill, 277 00:13:53,528 --> 00:13:58,315 the intelligence, you know, the social skills 278 00:13:58,402 --> 00:13:59,664 to make profit of it? 279 00:13:59,751 --> 00:14:01,666 No, because in Soviet times, 280 00:14:01,753 --> 00:14:03,886 you know, there was no business. 281 00:14:03,973 --> 00:14:07,585 You didn't have that business initiative. 282 00:14:07,672 --> 00:14:10,806 narrator: Tatiana's future partner, Evgeny Chichvarkin, 283 00:14:10,893 --> 00:14:13,983 was a natural entrepreneur. 284 00:14:14,070 --> 00:14:15,463 - First steps in business, 285 00:14:15,550 --> 00:14:21,469 I just rent one square meter, put newspaper, 286 00:14:21,556 --> 00:14:25,516 and bring everything what I have at home-- 287 00:14:25,603 --> 00:14:31,566 my old clothes and some food, chocolate, cognac. 288 00:14:31,653 --> 00:14:33,915 I sell more than half of that. 289 00:14:34,003 --> 00:14:37,485 I asked my father to give me $5,000-- 290 00:14:37,572 --> 00:14:39,313 that probably everything that he had. 291 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:42,403 And he trust me, and he gave me, 292 00:14:42,490 --> 00:14:46,624 and I return it in 23 days back. 293 00:14:46,711 --> 00:14:49,453 There was great time. 294 00:14:49,540 --> 00:14:52,456 narrator: Alexandra's partner, Sergei Pugachev, 295 00:14:52,543 --> 00:14:56,025 also seized every opportunity he could find. 296 00:14:56,112 --> 00:14:58,898 - I think in the '90s, 297 00:14:58,985 --> 00:15:02,945 it was a bit like sort of cowboy world. 298 00:15:03,032 --> 00:15:07,428 They were just taking insane, very dangerous risks. 299 00:15:07,515 --> 00:15:09,256 But obviously, they did pay off. 300 00:15:09,343 --> 00:15:12,607 And it was all about bluffing, really, 301 00:15:12,694 --> 00:15:15,349 and you had to convince people. 302 00:15:15,436 --> 00:15:17,177 And people wanted to be-- 303 00:15:17,264 --> 00:15:18,743 feel they were with the powerful-- 304 00:15:18,830 --> 00:15:20,006 but, you know, it's a bit like in the jungle where 305 00:15:20,093 --> 00:15:21,398 you want to be with the lion. 306 00:15:21,485 --> 00:15:23,096 You don't want to be with the lizard. 307 00:15:30,494 --> 00:15:32,235 Which was almost a badge of honor 308 00:15:32,322 --> 00:15:34,411 because it was-- you were enterprising. 309 00:15:34,498 --> 00:15:36,413 He said he had a jeans line where 310 00:15:36,500 --> 00:15:37,806 he was making fake Levis, 311 00:15:37,893 --> 00:15:40,461 and then he had one of these car factories. 312 00:15:40,548 --> 00:15:43,377 He went and bought slightly damaged parts 313 00:15:43,464 --> 00:15:45,640 and then would assemble them on a line 314 00:15:45,727 --> 00:15:47,642 and sell the cars for cheaper. 315 00:15:47,729 --> 00:15:49,513 He then set up a bank. 316 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:51,341 And his was the biggest private bank, 317 00:15:51,428 --> 00:15:53,822 I think, at the time. 318 00:15:53,909 --> 00:15:56,694 [people shouting] 319 00:15:56,781 --> 00:15:58,261 narrator: Without the iron fist 320 00:15:58,348 --> 00:16:00,872 of the Soviet police state, 321 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:06,226 the early 1990s were a time of lawlessness and anarchy. 322 00:16:06,313 --> 00:16:09,925 Boris Yeltsin grappled with widespread unemployment, 323 00:16:10,012 --> 00:16:14,843 faltering state industries, and food shortages. 324 00:16:14,930 --> 00:16:16,845 As his popularity waned, 325 00:16:16,932 --> 00:16:19,891 Yeltsin's solution was to transfer 326 00:16:19,979 --> 00:16:23,808 massive state-owned industries like banking and gas 327 00:16:23,895 --> 00:16:26,855 into the hands of select businessmen, 328 00:16:26,942 --> 00:16:28,378 who would then loan the government 329 00:16:28,465 --> 00:16:32,469 the funds it needed to keep running. 330 00:16:32,556 --> 00:16:36,212 At that time, American-born financier Bill Browder 331 00:16:36,299 --> 00:16:39,520 was investing heavily in Russia. 332 00:16:39,607 --> 00:16:41,217 - I started investing in 1993 333 00:16:41,304 --> 00:16:44,090 at the beginning of the Russian privatization program. 334 00:16:44,177 --> 00:16:45,874 At the time, during the Yeltsin era, 335 00:16:45,961 --> 00:16:47,484 the oligarchs were people who were 336 00:16:47,571 --> 00:16:50,879 not just immensely wealthy but immensely powerful. 337 00:16:50,966 --> 00:16:54,056 In order to get reelected in 1996, 338 00:16:54,143 --> 00:16:58,756 he allowed 22 oligarchs to steal 40% of the country. 339 00:16:58,843 --> 00:17:00,976 The government borrowed money from the oligarchs, 340 00:17:01,063 --> 00:17:03,848 and the oligarchs asked for collateral. 341 00:17:03,935 --> 00:17:05,415 And so the government then handed over 342 00:17:05,502 --> 00:17:06,895 all the crown jewels, 343 00:17:06,982 --> 00:17:08,636 and then the government conveniently defaulted 344 00:17:08,723 --> 00:17:10,550 at the end of the loans. 345 00:17:10,637 --> 00:17:14,511 And these oligarchs then became immensely wealthier 346 00:17:14,598 --> 00:17:18,253 through owning the most prized crown jewels of the country. 347 00:17:18,340 --> 00:17:20,126 [suspenseful music] 348 00:17:20,213 --> 00:17:22,171 narrator: Overnight, millionaires 349 00:17:22,258 --> 00:17:26,393 became billionaires, and a new political class was born-- 350 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:29,222 the oligarchs. 351 00:17:29,309 --> 00:17:31,746 - And in return, they used their resources, 352 00:17:31,833 --> 00:17:34,357 their media, and everything else 353 00:17:34,444 --> 00:17:36,229 to make sure that he was president. 354 00:17:36,316 --> 00:17:38,492 But in doing so, he also gave up 355 00:17:38,579 --> 00:17:41,538 a huge amount of power and sovereignty 356 00:17:41,625 --> 00:17:43,932 to these 22 oligarchs. 357 00:17:44,019 --> 00:17:48,458 - The oligarchs in the original 358 00:17:48,545 --> 00:17:50,982 and the true sense of words, they were not just 359 00:17:51,070 --> 00:17:52,419 super rich, you know. 360 00:17:52,506 --> 00:17:55,422 They were not businessmen who made 361 00:17:55,509 --> 00:17:57,598 good business decision or, like, a dodgy deal 362 00:17:57,685 --> 00:17:58,903 here and there. 363 00:17:58,990 --> 00:18:01,036 They had political power. 364 00:18:01,123 --> 00:18:05,127 And this is a crucial key element to being an oligarch. 365 00:18:05,214 --> 00:18:07,608 narrator: Yeltsin put his political prospects 366 00:18:07,695 --> 00:18:09,871 in the hands of Sergei Pugachev, 367 00:18:09,958 --> 00:18:12,830 Alexandra's future partner. 368 00:18:12,917 --> 00:18:16,660 - In 1996, he ran Yeltsin's election campaign. 369 00:18:16,747 --> 00:18:19,707 And he brought in these American campaign managers, 370 00:18:19,794 --> 00:18:21,404 which was quite controversial. 371 00:18:21,491 --> 00:18:22,884 And it was the first time where they sort of worked 372 00:18:22,971 --> 00:18:25,191 on someone's public image. 373 00:18:25,278 --> 00:18:26,583 And it did work. 374 00:18:26,670 --> 00:18:29,543 [upbeat folk music playing] 375 00:18:29,630 --> 00:18:36,506 ♪ ♪ 376 00:18:39,770 --> 00:18:42,425 [cheers and applause] 377 00:18:42,512 --> 00:18:44,732 narrator: After their man won, many oligarchs 378 00:18:44,819 --> 00:18:47,387 took office as senators. 379 00:18:47,474 --> 00:18:50,520 - The money that they continued to steal 380 00:18:50,607 --> 00:18:53,001 led to a terrible social crisis in Russia 381 00:18:53,088 --> 00:18:55,134 where they were rich, 382 00:18:55,221 --> 00:18:56,874 and everybody else was destitute. 383 00:18:56,961 --> 00:18:58,659 Nurses became prostitutes. 384 00:18:58,746 --> 00:19:00,878 Professors became taxi drivers. 385 00:19:00,965 --> 00:19:04,360 And art museums sold the paintings off the walls 386 00:19:04,447 --> 00:19:05,883 in order to survive. 387 00:19:05,970 --> 00:19:07,189 It was a terrible time. 388 00:19:07,276 --> 00:19:10,453 [apprehensive music] 389 00:19:10,540 --> 00:19:12,673 narrator: The all-powerful oligarchs were now 390 00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:16,546 like mafia bosses working with criminals, 391 00:19:16,633 --> 00:19:19,549 ignoring a legal system that had evolved little 392 00:19:19,636 --> 00:19:21,072 since Soviet times, 393 00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:23,249 and turning Russia into fiefdoms 394 00:19:23,336 --> 00:19:25,294 of organized crime. 395 00:19:28,384 --> 00:19:30,734 Whilst Yeltsin turned a blind eye, 396 00:19:30,821 --> 00:19:33,520 Russia's security service, the FSB, 397 00:19:33,607 --> 00:19:37,176 take matters into their own hands. 398 00:19:37,263 --> 00:19:40,570 One up-and-coming intelligence officer at the FSB, 399 00:19:40,657 --> 00:19:43,965 formerly the KGB, targeting criminal gangs, 400 00:19:44,052 --> 00:19:46,924 is Alexander Litvinenko. 401 00:19:47,011 --> 00:19:51,277 His family and friends called him Sasha. 402 00:19:51,364 --> 00:19:55,150 He's tasked with leading a secret intelligence unit, 403 00:19:55,237 --> 00:19:58,980 one of whose missions is to keep oligarchs in line 404 00:19:59,067 --> 00:20:03,332 who'd become too independent, too powerful. 405 00:20:03,419 --> 00:20:07,075 - These people who had money became politician. 406 00:20:07,162 --> 00:20:09,512 And they tried to get this at top level 407 00:20:09,599 --> 00:20:12,515 and be elected to Russian parliament. 408 00:20:12,602 --> 00:20:15,823 narrator: Sasha soon discovers the FSB itself 409 00:20:15,910 --> 00:20:19,043 is involved in this web of crime. 410 00:20:19,130 --> 00:20:22,090 - He realized organized crime now 411 00:20:22,177 --> 00:20:26,529 very linked to security service, 412 00:20:26,616 --> 00:20:29,619 to politician, and to big money. 413 00:20:29,706 --> 00:20:32,448 And this is--his was the first concerning 414 00:20:32,535 --> 00:20:34,320 something is going wrong. 415 00:20:34,407 --> 00:20:39,107 They received more and more order what doesn't look legal. 416 00:20:39,194 --> 00:20:41,936 What does it mean? They need to kidnap people. 417 00:20:42,023 --> 00:20:46,332 They need to even maybe kill. 418 00:20:46,419 --> 00:20:49,552 narrator: The man at the top of Sasha's hit list 419 00:20:49,639 --> 00:20:53,295 is Boris Berezovsky, a media baron 420 00:20:53,382 --> 00:20:56,777 and owner of Russia's biggest TV channel. 421 00:20:56,864 --> 00:20:59,780 As Russia's most influential oligarch, 422 00:20:59,867 --> 00:21:02,173 Berezovsky is an obvious target. 423 00:21:04,001 --> 00:21:06,221 He's already survived one attempt 424 00:21:06,308 --> 00:21:08,702 on his life two years earlier. 425 00:21:32,987 --> 00:21:35,772 narrator: Berezovsky's driver had been decapitated. 426 00:21:42,605 --> 00:21:49,482 ♪ ♪ 427 00:21:53,486 --> 00:21:55,401 narrator: Instead of carrying out the order 428 00:21:55,488 --> 00:21:58,534 to assassinate Berezovsky, 429 00:21:58,621 --> 00:22:01,929 Sasha decides to warn the oligarch. 430 00:22:02,016 --> 00:22:05,454 - Sasha came to Boris Berezovsky to say, 431 00:22:05,541 --> 00:22:08,022 "I was asked to kill you." 432 00:22:08,109 --> 00:22:12,156 ♪ ♪ 433 00:22:12,243 --> 00:22:14,028 narrator: Boris Berezovsky assumes 434 00:22:14,115 --> 00:22:16,770 the order came from Yeltsin. 435 00:22:16,857 --> 00:22:20,121 He tells Sasha to inform the newly-appointed 436 00:22:20,208 --> 00:22:22,993 head of the FSB, Vladimir Putin, 437 00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:26,519 a man Berezovsky trusts and recommended for the job, 438 00:22:26,606 --> 00:22:30,827 that his agents are being used for political assassinations. 439 00:22:33,526 --> 00:22:35,745 - Boris Berezovsky believed 440 00:22:35,832 --> 00:22:39,183 they have a good friendship with Putin. 441 00:22:39,270 --> 00:22:40,968 But that was not true. 442 00:22:41,055 --> 00:22:45,276 And when my husband Sasha met Vladimir Putin, 443 00:22:45,364 --> 00:22:47,975 Putin didn't say nothing. 444 00:22:48,062 --> 00:22:50,238 I think Sasha was not really impressed 445 00:22:50,325 --> 00:22:54,547 of Vladimir Putin as a person. 446 00:22:54,634 --> 00:22:57,941 narrator: Sasha's next step is extraordinary. 447 00:22:58,028 --> 00:23:02,816 With other FSB whistleblowers, he holds a press conference. 448 00:23:02,903 --> 00:23:06,689 It's broadcast by Berezovsky's own network. 449 00:23:06,776 --> 00:23:09,431 Sasha reveals not only the plot to assassinate 450 00:23:09,518 --> 00:23:11,825 Boris Berezovsky but also shocking corruption 451 00:23:11,912 --> 00:23:13,783 inside the FSB. 452 00:23:13,870 --> 00:23:15,219 - I was really nervous 453 00:23:15,306 --> 00:23:17,178 when Sasha said they're going publicly 454 00:23:17,265 --> 00:23:18,875 for this press conference. 455 00:23:18,962 --> 00:23:23,750 I said, why you need to be so public in saying this? 456 00:23:23,837 --> 00:23:25,708 But he said, don't worry. 457 00:23:25,795 --> 00:23:28,711 He felt Boris Berezovsky has a lot of power. 458 00:23:28,798 --> 00:23:32,323 And he felt his support and a lot of support 459 00:23:32,411 --> 00:23:36,327 from other business in Russia. 460 00:23:36,415 --> 00:23:37,938 Other guys were wearing glasses, 461 00:23:38,025 --> 00:23:40,854 and one was in a balaclava. 462 00:23:40,941 --> 00:23:44,031 narrator: Sasha chooses not to cover his face. 463 00:23:45,467 --> 00:23:48,339 - [speaking Russian] 464 00:23:55,303 --> 00:23:56,652 - I was really shocked. 465 00:23:56,739 --> 00:23:59,699 And I asked him, what is next after this? 466 00:23:59,786 --> 00:24:03,311 He said, "Mm, I might be arrested, 467 00:24:03,398 --> 00:24:04,660 or I might be killed." 468 00:24:04,747 --> 00:24:08,185 [gunshots] 469 00:24:08,272 --> 00:24:12,015 narrator: Immediately fired from the FSB by Putin himself, 470 00:24:12,102 --> 00:24:14,322 Sasha is arrested on trumped-up charges 471 00:24:14,409 --> 00:24:16,759 of beating up a suspect. 472 00:24:16,846 --> 00:24:18,979 He spends nine months in prison. 473 00:24:19,066 --> 00:24:21,764 [sirens blaring] 474 00:24:21,851 --> 00:24:25,551 [upbeat marching band music playing] 475 00:24:25,638 --> 00:24:29,772 By 1999, Yeltsin is deeply unpopular, 476 00:24:29,859 --> 00:24:32,340 and his behavior becoming erratic. 477 00:24:34,995 --> 00:24:37,214 In ill health and fearful of being prosecuted 478 00:24:37,301 --> 00:24:39,913 for corruption, his days in the presidency 479 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:41,218 are numbered. 480 00:24:43,525 --> 00:24:45,832 Sergei Pugachev is one one of the oligarchs 481 00:24:45,919 --> 00:24:48,878 plotting to find Yeltsin's replacement. 482 00:24:48,965 --> 00:24:51,620 He has someone in mind that he thinks 483 00:24:51,707 --> 00:24:53,970 would be perfect for the job, 484 00:24:54,057 --> 00:24:56,973 someone who would be deferential. 485 00:24:57,060 --> 00:25:00,107 - Sergei definitely always got to be number one in the room. 486 00:25:00,194 --> 00:25:01,978 So he would never ever have chosen 487 00:25:02,065 --> 00:25:05,155 someone who he thought could ever vaguely compete with him. 488 00:25:05,242 --> 00:25:07,854 They thought they had this very malleable pawn 489 00:25:07,941 --> 00:25:12,075 who would fulfill all these instructions. 490 00:25:12,162 --> 00:25:14,034 narrator: Boris Berezovsky recalls 491 00:25:14,121 --> 00:25:17,777 how he supported Putin when he first became president. 492 00:25:17,864 --> 00:25:20,562 - Definitely I support Putin. I support Putin. 493 00:25:20,649 --> 00:25:24,000 And I trust that Putin took this position 494 00:25:24,087 --> 00:25:25,436 as a successor of Yeltsin. 495 00:25:25,524 --> 00:25:27,743 Yes, as a successor. 496 00:25:27,830 --> 00:25:31,704 What it means, that he's supposed to continue reform. 497 00:25:31,791 --> 00:25:35,055 - I would in this respect agree with Berezovsky 498 00:25:35,142 --> 00:25:38,188 that in this way, he has honesty 499 00:25:38,275 --> 00:25:44,455 and decency to has his clear way of how things should be. 500 00:25:44,543 --> 00:25:50,157 And no one can take him out of this road he chooses. 501 00:25:52,159 --> 00:25:54,465 narrator: At first, Putin acts just like 502 00:25:54,553 --> 00:25:57,860 the drab bureaucrat the oligarchs expected. 503 00:25:57,947 --> 00:25:59,949 [apprehensive music] 504 00:26:00,036 --> 00:26:02,865 - After the Yeltsin era, I and everybody else 505 00:26:02,952 --> 00:26:05,999 was just desperate for somebody normal. 506 00:26:06,086 --> 00:26:07,740 And here comes along this guy. 507 00:26:07,827 --> 00:26:12,701 He's got this blank face, not charismatic at all. 508 00:26:12,788 --> 00:26:15,922 But he spoke English, didn't drink. 509 00:26:16,009 --> 00:26:20,361 And so I sort of placed him in the category 510 00:26:20,448 --> 00:26:24,887 of boring functionary, but it's what Russia needed. 511 00:26:24,974 --> 00:26:30,676 And I had no idea the evil that lurked just underneath. 512 00:26:30,763 --> 00:26:32,547 narrator: Sergei told Alexandra 513 00:26:32,634 --> 00:26:37,508 how Putin reacted to the opulent halls of the Kremlin. 514 00:26:37,596 --> 00:26:39,162 - Putin grew up in a communal flat, 515 00:26:39,249 --> 00:26:41,730 which is really the most humble way 516 00:26:41,817 --> 00:26:43,776 you could possibly grow up. It's a shared kitchen. 517 00:26:43,863 --> 00:26:45,429 It's a shared bathroom with other families. 518 00:26:45,516 --> 00:26:51,044 To have then gone to be living in this sort of semi-palace, 519 00:26:51,131 --> 00:26:53,350 apparently he was just like a child in a sweet shop. 520 00:26:53,437 --> 00:26:57,485 He was just so excited and couldn't even really hide it. 521 00:26:59,835 --> 00:27:02,229 narrator: The oligarchs were confident they'd found the man 522 00:27:02,316 --> 00:27:05,362 to do their bidding and sold their pick 523 00:27:05,449 --> 00:27:08,627 to the ailing alcoholic president. 524 00:27:08,714 --> 00:27:12,935 On December 31, 1999, Yeltsin resigns. 525 00:27:13,022 --> 00:27:14,850 - [speaking Russian] 526 00:27:14,937 --> 00:27:16,765 - In a nationwide television address, 527 00:27:16,852 --> 00:27:19,159 the ailing 68-year-old Yeltsin said 528 00:27:19,246 --> 00:27:21,378 his life's work is finished. 529 00:27:21,465 --> 00:27:25,382 "Russia will never return to its Communist past," he said. 530 00:27:25,469 --> 00:27:28,734 Yeltsin then handed power and Russia's nuclear suitcase 531 00:27:28,821 --> 00:27:32,215 to his prime minister, Vladimir Putin. 532 00:27:32,302 --> 00:27:35,697 Putin, a 47-year-old former KGB spy, 533 00:27:35,784 --> 00:27:38,395 will be Russia's acting president until elections 534 00:27:38,482 --> 00:27:40,833 are held in three months. 535 00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:45,098 [lively fanfare] 536 00:27:45,185 --> 00:27:47,970 narrator: President Putin's first official move 537 00:27:48,057 --> 00:27:51,104 is to grant Yeltsin immunity from prosecution 538 00:27:51,191 --> 00:27:54,324 on corruption charges. 539 00:27:54,411 --> 00:27:56,936 - In 2000, when Putin became president, 540 00:27:57,023 --> 00:28:02,289 he looked young, promising, healthy, and so on. 541 00:28:02,376 --> 00:28:05,248 [tense music] 542 00:28:05,335 --> 00:28:06,946 ♪ ♪ 543 00:28:07,033 --> 00:28:09,949 - Here is a young, effective president 544 00:28:10,036 --> 00:28:14,040 with good health, very open to the world, 545 00:28:14,127 --> 00:28:16,782 very open to America and Europe. 546 00:28:16,869 --> 00:28:18,348 - The vast majority of people-- 547 00:28:18,435 --> 00:28:20,176 and this is-- this completely makes sense. 548 00:28:20,263 --> 00:28:22,004 He was a breath of fresh air because 549 00:28:22,091 --> 00:28:23,745 he spoke foreign languages, he was young, 550 00:28:23,832 --> 00:28:25,616 energetic, sporty. 551 00:28:25,704 --> 00:28:29,185 As much as we hate him now, you have to give it to him. 552 00:28:29,272 --> 00:28:32,711 He is very charismatic. 553 00:28:32,798 --> 00:28:36,149 Really, he can be very charming still even. 554 00:28:36,236 --> 00:28:42,633 ♪ ♪ 555 00:28:42,721 --> 00:28:45,506 narrator: Just four months into his presidency, 556 00:28:45,593 --> 00:28:48,639 Putin invites Russia's most powerful oligarchs 557 00:28:48,727 --> 00:28:52,339 to a meeting behind closed doors at the Kremlin 558 00:28:52,426 --> 00:28:54,080 and offers them a deal. 559 00:28:56,256 --> 00:28:59,041 Do what I say, and you can keep your wealth. 560 00:28:59,128 --> 00:29:02,958 Stand against me, and I will take everything. 561 00:29:06,048 --> 00:29:08,485 Tatiana's future partner, at the time 562 00:29:08,572 --> 00:29:10,705 the youngest multi-millionaire in Russia, 563 00:29:10,792 --> 00:29:13,664 had been paying close attention. 564 00:29:13,752 --> 00:29:15,579 - Putin said, that's the rules. 565 00:29:15,666 --> 00:29:18,408 You can do everything, make as much money as you want. 566 00:29:18,495 --> 00:29:21,542 But don't go to politics. 567 00:29:21,629 --> 00:29:23,413 And everybody said yes. 568 00:29:23,500 --> 00:29:25,024 Yes, sir. 569 00:29:25,111 --> 00:29:28,244 At that time, I thought, 570 00:29:28,331 --> 00:29:31,334 "If I will be just trading phones, 571 00:29:31,421 --> 00:29:34,424 "and I've been not involved in politics, 572 00:29:34,511 --> 00:29:36,165 nothing will happen with me." 573 00:29:36,252 --> 00:29:38,254 That was my thought. 574 00:29:41,170 --> 00:29:42,868 narrator: The oligarchs still believe Putin 575 00:29:42,955 --> 00:29:45,696 is their puppet president. 576 00:29:45,784 --> 00:29:48,830 Yet in public statements, Putin denounces the oligarchs 577 00:29:48,917 --> 00:29:50,484 for their greed. 578 00:29:52,921 --> 00:29:55,794 - [speaking Russian] 579 00:30:06,935 --> 00:30:10,330 - In Russia, people hate rich people. 580 00:30:10,417 --> 00:30:15,552 Most of the people hate oligarchs. 581 00:30:15,639 --> 00:30:18,904 They think all the money that have oligarchs, 582 00:30:18,991 --> 00:30:24,692 they only come from, you know, stealing. 583 00:30:24,779 --> 00:30:26,868 narrator: One oligarch in particular 584 00:30:26,955 --> 00:30:29,262 believes Putin means what he says about 585 00:30:29,349 --> 00:30:31,177 reducing the oligarchs' power. 586 00:30:48,847 --> 00:30:51,066 narrator: Other oligarchs believe the president 587 00:30:51,153 --> 00:30:53,764 can be managed, even though some suspect 588 00:30:53,852 --> 00:30:57,681 he is jealous of their lifestyle. 589 00:30:57,768 --> 00:31:00,728 - Sergei told me funny stories like even about-- 590 00:31:00,815 --> 00:31:02,991 because he's quite small, Putin. 591 00:31:03,078 --> 00:31:04,558 He told me once he was swimming. 592 00:31:04,645 --> 00:31:06,168 Sergei was swimming in a swimming pool. 593 00:31:06,255 --> 00:31:08,127 And Putin was standing at the end. 594 00:31:08,214 --> 00:31:11,391 And he said, "Look at you with your long arms." 595 00:31:11,478 --> 00:31:13,610 I think he probably felt very frustrated 596 00:31:13,697 --> 00:31:17,484 that the oligarchs were living these crazy, glamorous lives. 597 00:31:17,571 --> 00:31:19,355 Putin would much prefer to have been an oligarch 598 00:31:19,442 --> 00:31:22,750 than to have been the president. 599 00:31:22,837 --> 00:31:25,971 narrator: Another person who has no illusions about Putin 600 00:31:26,058 --> 00:31:29,626 is FSB whistleblower Sasha Litvinenko, 601 00:31:29,713 --> 00:31:32,499 released from jail after nine months. 602 00:31:32,586 --> 00:31:35,850 - He really worried about us, his family, 603 00:31:35,937 --> 00:31:39,071 when he decide to escape from Russia. 604 00:31:39,158 --> 00:31:41,595 This was not only because he would be arrested 605 00:31:41,682 --> 00:31:44,119 again and put to jail. 606 00:31:44,206 --> 00:31:47,340 He knew they might do something against us. 607 00:31:47,427 --> 00:31:50,952 narrator: Sasha sends Marina and their young son Anatoly 608 00:31:51,039 --> 00:31:53,259 on holiday to Spain. 609 00:31:53,346 --> 00:31:55,609 She doesn't yet realize her husband 610 00:31:55,696 --> 00:31:59,308 is plotting their escape from Putin's Russia. 611 00:31:59,395 --> 00:32:02,224 - When I was in Spain with Anatoly, 612 00:32:02,311 --> 00:32:06,663 Sasha first time started to talk about 613 00:32:06,750 --> 00:32:10,058 maybe we're not going back to Russia. 614 00:32:10,145 --> 00:32:14,367 And when he started this, I was immediately disagree. 615 00:32:14,454 --> 00:32:17,848 I said, no way. No way I leave my parents. 616 00:32:17,936 --> 00:32:20,068 I leave everything. 617 00:32:20,155 --> 00:32:23,028 narrator: Reluctantly, Sasha gives in, 618 00:32:23,115 --> 00:32:25,421 saying they will return to Moscow after the holiday. 619 00:32:25,508 --> 00:32:29,338 But then he gets a call from Berezovsky. 620 00:32:29,425 --> 00:32:32,820 - Boris Berezovsky called him and just said, 621 00:32:32,907 --> 00:32:34,909 "Sasha, don't do this. 622 00:32:34,996 --> 00:32:36,693 Your life will be in danger." 623 00:32:39,783 --> 00:32:42,090 narrator: Instead of flying home, 624 00:32:42,177 --> 00:32:46,094 the Litvinenkos board a flight to London. 625 00:32:46,181 --> 00:32:48,270 - First of all, I had not only a suitcase. 626 00:32:48,357 --> 00:32:51,012 I had my husband and my son with me-- 627 00:32:51,099 --> 00:32:54,755 Anatoly, who was just six years old. 628 00:32:54,842 --> 00:32:56,148 We left everything behind-- 629 00:32:56,235 --> 00:33:01,066 our friends, our families, our job, all. 630 00:33:01,153 --> 00:33:04,808 But we had to do this for him, for our son, 631 00:33:04,895 --> 00:33:07,594 because he will be a freedom person. 632 00:33:07,681 --> 00:33:09,552 He will live in a freedom country. 633 00:33:09,639 --> 00:33:14,035 ♪ ♪ 634 00:33:14,122 --> 00:33:16,037 narrator: At the start of his presidency, 635 00:33:16,124 --> 00:33:19,127 the world had high hopes for Putin 636 00:33:19,214 --> 00:33:22,000 that he might lean in to democratic rule, 637 00:33:22,087 --> 00:33:25,742 a 21st century man ready to reform 638 00:33:25,829 --> 00:33:28,136 a corrupt and inefficient system. 639 00:33:28,223 --> 00:33:30,138 - And I looked the man in the eye. 640 00:33:30,225 --> 00:33:32,445 I found him to be very straightforward 641 00:33:32,532 --> 00:33:33,663 and trustworthy. 642 00:33:35,448 --> 00:33:37,450 narrator: But as the first year of Putin's rule 643 00:33:37,537 --> 00:33:40,322 comes to a close, Russian journalists 644 00:33:40,409 --> 00:33:43,673 are rocked by a string of unexplained murders. 645 00:33:46,850 --> 00:33:50,332 Investigative reporters brutally eliminated, 646 00:33:50,419 --> 00:33:52,639 the suspected killers with ties 647 00:33:52,726 --> 00:33:55,946 to the security services. 648 00:33:56,034 --> 00:33:59,298 The message was received loud and clear. 649 00:33:59,385 --> 00:34:02,866 [tense music] 650 00:34:02,953 --> 00:34:05,521 There were limits to press freedom. 651 00:34:05,608 --> 00:34:08,697 Putin's Russia was not the West. 652 00:34:10,918 --> 00:34:13,746 In August, Putin travels to Murmansk 653 00:34:13,833 --> 00:34:15,705 to meet the grief-stricken families 654 00:34:15,792 --> 00:34:17,620 of sailors who had drowned 655 00:34:17,706 --> 00:34:19,708 when the submarine "Kursk" sank. 656 00:34:21,797 --> 00:34:25,976 In a six hour conference, they unleash their anger 657 00:34:26,063 --> 00:34:28,978 on Putin's officials. 658 00:34:29,067 --> 00:34:31,938 - [speaking Russian] 659 00:34:40,774 --> 00:34:44,429 narrator: For weeks, Boris Berezovsky's ORT network 660 00:34:44,516 --> 00:34:46,518 broadcasts wall-to-wall coverage 661 00:34:46,606 --> 00:34:49,391 of Putin's public humiliation, 662 00:34:49,478 --> 00:34:51,828 sharply criticizing the president's handling 663 00:34:51,915 --> 00:34:54,657 of the crisis. 664 00:34:54,744 --> 00:34:58,270 A few months later, Putin gets his revenge. 665 00:35:00,924 --> 00:35:03,840 Facing charges of fraud and embezzlement, 666 00:35:03,927 --> 00:35:06,669 Berezovsky is forced to sell his media empire 667 00:35:06,756 --> 00:35:08,497 and flee to London, 668 00:35:08,584 --> 00:35:11,370 realizing he has no future in Russia. 669 00:35:12,936 --> 00:35:16,505 [suspenseful music] 670 00:35:16,592 --> 00:35:19,552 At first, the other oligarchs believed 671 00:35:19,639 --> 00:35:22,250 that if they stay out of the public eye 672 00:35:22,337 --> 00:35:25,079 and build their fortunes in dull industries 673 00:35:25,166 --> 00:35:28,430 like banking and oil, Putin will leave them alone. 674 00:35:32,217 --> 00:35:35,394 But in 2003, they learn a lesson 675 00:35:35,481 --> 00:35:37,961 that no one would ever forget 676 00:35:38,048 --> 00:35:39,963 when the richest man in Russia, 677 00:35:40,050 --> 00:35:42,227 Mikhail Khodorkovsky, challenges Putin 678 00:35:42,314 --> 00:35:44,185 at a Kremlin summit. 679 00:35:46,970 --> 00:35:49,843 - [speaking Russian] 680 00:36:06,599 --> 00:36:09,428 - [speaking Russian] 681 00:36:18,176 --> 00:36:20,003 - I remember the meeting 682 00:36:20,090 --> 00:36:23,746 when Khodorkovsky expressed his concerns over corruption. 683 00:36:23,833 --> 00:36:27,359 And it sort of made your blood go cold 684 00:36:27,446 --> 00:36:30,971 just because you knew it was not going to end well. 685 00:36:31,058 --> 00:36:33,495 There was that famous footage and how Putin looks. 686 00:36:33,582 --> 00:36:37,151 And then, you know, shortly after, he got arrested. 687 00:36:37,238 --> 00:36:40,676 And he was an absolute hero 688 00:36:40,763 --> 00:36:43,592 because it took so much courage 689 00:36:43,679 --> 00:36:45,072 just to say those words. 690 00:36:45,159 --> 00:36:48,162 And, you know, and he had things to lose. 691 00:36:48,249 --> 00:36:50,773 narrator: Khodorkovsky breaks the oligarch code 692 00:36:50,860 --> 00:36:53,298 by involving himself in politics, 693 00:36:53,385 --> 00:36:56,083 for which he is destroyed. 694 00:36:56,170 --> 00:37:01,001 The state seizes much of his estimated $15 billion fortune 695 00:37:01,088 --> 00:37:05,397 and sentences him to nine years in prison for fraud. 696 00:37:05,484 --> 00:37:09,314 - Khodorkovsky started being politically active, 697 00:37:09,401 --> 00:37:12,404 and that was why he went to prison, 698 00:37:12,491 --> 00:37:17,147 and that when Russia started to change dramatically. 699 00:37:17,235 --> 00:37:18,671 - And at that point, the other oligarchs 700 00:37:18,758 --> 00:37:20,063 came to Putin and said, "What do we have to do 701 00:37:20,150 --> 00:37:21,848 so we don't go to jail?" 702 00:37:21,935 --> 00:37:24,198 And Putin said, 50%. 703 00:37:24,285 --> 00:37:25,808 And at that moment, Putin became 704 00:37:25,895 --> 00:37:29,029 the richest man in the world. 705 00:37:29,116 --> 00:37:30,987 narrator: While Putin privately demands 706 00:37:31,074 --> 00:37:32,902 half their wealth, 707 00:37:32,989 --> 00:37:36,079 publicly, he continues to threaten the oligarchs, 708 00:37:36,166 --> 00:37:41,084 knowing ordinary Russians feel little sympathy for them. 709 00:37:41,171 --> 00:37:44,044 - [speaking Russian] 710 00:38:12,768 --> 00:38:14,248 - Ordinary Russians, they live 711 00:38:14,335 --> 00:38:16,816 a completely different life, and we can't imagine. 712 00:38:16,903 --> 00:38:19,079 You know, they have the toilet outside. 713 00:38:19,166 --> 00:38:23,170 They literally think about getting food on the table. 714 00:38:23,257 --> 00:38:25,651 This is the level of their concerns. 715 00:38:25,738 --> 00:38:30,525 So people saw that as, yeah, they stole all our money. 716 00:38:30,612 --> 00:38:33,049 They got punished, and that serves them right, 717 00:38:33,136 --> 00:38:35,138 and I'm poor, and they're rich. 718 00:38:35,225 --> 00:38:37,880 I think they saw this as 719 00:38:37,967 --> 00:38:39,926 a demonstration of strength from Putin. 720 00:38:43,669 --> 00:38:46,106 narrator: Oleg Deripaska was one oligarch 721 00:38:46,193 --> 00:38:49,675 who prospered in the first years of Putin's regime, 722 00:38:49,762 --> 00:38:52,634 becoming Russia's richest man. 723 00:39:02,905 --> 00:39:04,864 narrator: Deripaska owns several sectors 724 00:39:04,951 --> 00:39:09,434 of Russian industry, employing thousands. 725 00:39:09,521 --> 00:39:12,132 When he tries to close a cement factory 726 00:39:12,219 --> 00:39:14,308 and fire its workers, it is an opportunity 727 00:39:14,395 --> 00:39:16,223 for Putin to step in 728 00:39:16,310 --> 00:39:18,878 and posture as a man of the people. 729 00:39:20,445 --> 00:39:23,273 - [speaking Russian] 730 00:39:38,550 --> 00:39:40,595 narrator: Deripaska abandons his plans 731 00:39:40,682 --> 00:39:42,467 and keeps the plant running. 732 00:39:59,701 --> 00:40:02,269 [tense music] 733 00:40:02,356 --> 00:40:05,925 ♪ ♪ 734 00:40:10,712 --> 00:40:13,019 narrator: The oligarchs now understand 735 00:40:13,106 --> 00:40:16,414 they have underestimated Putin all along. 736 00:40:16,501 --> 00:40:19,112 Unlike Berezovsky and Khodorkovsky, 737 00:40:19,199 --> 00:40:23,856 Deripaska had done nothing to embarrass or upstage Putin. 738 00:40:23,943 --> 00:40:29,252 It is now clear to everyone money does not equal power. 739 00:40:33,822 --> 00:40:36,782 With his friend and ally oligarch Boris Berezovsky 740 00:40:36,869 --> 00:40:38,827 already ensconced in London, 741 00:40:38,914 --> 00:40:41,308 the Litvinenko family now arrives. 742 00:40:43,310 --> 00:40:45,486 They hope Berezovsky will help them 743 00:40:45,573 --> 00:40:48,141 as they build new lives in a foreign country. 744 00:40:50,404 --> 00:40:52,841 - Sasha and Boris Berezovsky been 745 00:40:52,928 --> 00:40:55,583 the most different people you can imagine. 746 00:40:55,670 --> 00:41:00,109 And many people been surprised what might be between of them. 747 00:41:00,196 --> 00:41:02,895 But it was really a friendship. 748 00:41:04,940 --> 00:41:07,377 narrator: But Sasha cannot stay quiet 749 00:41:07,465 --> 00:41:09,075 when another good friend of his, 750 00:41:09,162 --> 00:41:11,947 journalist Anna Politkovskaya, 751 00:41:12,034 --> 00:41:16,125 is murdered after criticizing Putin's war in Chechnya. 752 00:41:16,212 --> 00:41:21,609 ♪ ♪ 753 00:41:21,696 --> 00:41:25,134 - When Anna was killed 7th of October, 754 00:41:25,221 --> 00:41:29,443 Sasha was devastated because he felt 755 00:41:29,530 --> 00:41:32,228 it something he didn't prevent. 756 00:41:34,796 --> 00:41:36,494 narrator: After Anna's murder, 757 00:41:36,581 --> 00:41:39,235 Sasha is invited to speak to journalists 758 00:41:39,322 --> 00:41:40,715 at a gathering in London. 759 00:41:42,543 --> 00:41:45,503 - [speaking Russian] 760 00:41:51,987 --> 00:41:54,294 narrator: Just days after he accuses Putin 761 00:41:54,381 --> 00:41:58,385 of Anna's murder, Sasha falls gravely ill. 762 00:41:58,472 --> 00:42:00,430 - I thought it might be just some kind 763 00:42:00,518 --> 00:42:03,129 of digestion problem or anything. 764 00:42:03,216 --> 00:42:07,307 But sickness was so powerful and so unusual. 765 00:42:07,394 --> 00:42:12,181 And Sasha immediately suspected something wrong. 766 00:42:12,268 --> 00:42:16,055 His immune system dropped almost to zero. 767 00:42:16,142 --> 00:42:20,538 And doctors and hospital didn't know why. 768 00:42:20,625 --> 00:42:22,104 narrator: Sasha told hospital doctors 769 00:42:22,191 --> 00:42:25,194 he suspected foul play. 770 00:42:25,281 --> 00:42:28,197 - I'm a Russian, I'm former security service, 771 00:42:28,284 --> 00:42:30,765 and I have a very powerful enemy. 772 00:42:30,852 --> 00:42:32,332 narrator: For nearly two weeks, 773 00:42:32,419 --> 00:42:35,422 they try to diagnose the cause of Sasha's sickness 774 00:42:35,509 --> 00:42:39,295 until finally, a blood test revealed he'd been poisoned. 775 00:42:39,382 --> 00:42:40,949 - And his blood was checked 776 00:42:41,036 --> 00:42:43,169 for poisoning first time. 777 00:42:43,256 --> 00:42:47,739 And it was a trace of thallium. 778 00:42:47,826 --> 00:42:50,132 narrator: The Litvinenko case would be a warning 779 00:42:50,219 --> 00:42:52,091 to all Putin's enemies 780 00:42:52,178 --> 00:42:55,007 who thought they'd be safe in England. 781 00:42:55,094 --> 00:42:58,837 Paying close attention is the oligarch Boris Berezovsky. 782 00:43:01,317 --> 00:43:05,321 - He asked Boris to come to see him. 783 00:43:05,408 --> 00:43:11,632 Berezovsky, I saw he was really, really nervous about. 784 00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:14,896 And Sasha say, "Boris, you promise 785 00:43:14,983 --> 00:43:17,638 "if something happen to me, 786 00:43:17,725 --> 00:43:20,946 "you will never leave Marina and my family 787 00:43:21,033 --> 00:43:23,426 without attention." 788 00:43:23,513 --> 00:43:25,080 And, of course, for Boris, it wasn't 789 00:43:25,167 --> 00:43:27,996 even a question to discuss. 790 00:43:30,259 --> 00:43:34,263 But he had two days to talk to police. 791 00:43:34,350 --> 00:43:37,615 He gave a lot of evidence, 792 00:43:37,702 --> 00:43:40,574 even if it was very difficult to talk. 793 00:43:40,661 --> 00:43:43,098 And they told me, we definitely will do everything 794 00:43:43,185 --> 00:43:45,187 to investigate this case. 795 00:43:47,363 --> 00:43:50,410 - We're sorry to announce that Alexander Litvinenko died 796 00:43:50,497 --> 00:43:52,542 at University College Hospital 797 00:43:52,630 --> 00:43:55,415 at 9:21 on the 23rd of November 2006. 798 00:43:55,502 --> 00:43:58,200 And the matter is now an ongoing investigation 799 00:43:58,287 --> 00:44:00,942 being dealt with by detectives from New Scotland Yard. 800 00:44:27,055 --> 00:44:30,232 narrator: From his deathbed, Sasha had helped police solve 801 00:44:30,319 --> 00:44:32,931 his own murder, pointing the finger 802 00:44:33,018 --> 00:44:36,630 at two Russian associates, both ex-KGB, 803 00:44:36,717 --> 00:44:39,328 who he said had spiked his green tea 804 00:44:39,415 --> 00:44:42,592 with radioactive polonium-210, 805 00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:45,900 a claim the Russian government denies. 806 00:44:45,987 --> 00:44:48,903 - For me, it looks they didn't expect 807 00:44:48,990 --> 00:44:51,558 polonium would be discovered 808 00:44:51,645 --> 00:44:54,430 because it's radioactive material. 809 00:44:54,517 --> 00:44:55,867 You can't buy. 810 00:44:55,954 --> 00:44:58,783 You can't just select it. 811 00:44:58,870 --> 00:45:03,004 You can't take it from nowhere, just from nuclear reactor. 812 00:45:06,486 --> 00:45:11,099 narrator: In 2006, at the time of Litvinenko's death, 813 00:45:11,186 --> 00:45:14,320 Alexandra Tolstoy was traveling in Russia 814 00:45:14,407 --> 00:45:16,757 with little knowledge of Putin's world. 815 00:45:16,844 --> 00:45:20,718 She was a young woman having an adventure living abroad. 816 00:45:20,805 --> 00:45:22,720 - I was doing these different jobs, 817 00:45:22,807 --> 00:45:24,504 and I taught English just occasionally, 818 00:45:24,591 --> 00:45:26,288 and a friend of mine said to me, 819 00:45:26,375 --> 00:45:29,161 "Oh, my boss wants to have English conversation lessons." 820 00:45:29,248 --> 00:45:31,119 And I said, yeah, sure. I'll do that. 821 00:45:31,206 --> 00:45:33,121 But he was so reserved and silent 822 00:45:33,208 --> 00:45:34,949 and sort of seemed to be watching me. 823 00:45:35,036 --> 00:45:37,169 I was flailing around like, what should I--and I said, 824 00:45:37,256 --> 00:45:39,258 should we talk about Putin? 825 00:45:39,345 --> 00:45:41,651 And he said, no politics. No politics. 826 00:45:41,739 --> 00:45:43,915 And then I went home, and I Googled him. 827 00:45:44,002 --> 00:45:45,612 And I went--I remember going bright red. 828 00:45:45,699 --> 00:45:47,309 You know, I thought, this is awful. 829 00:45:47,396 --> 00:45:50,182 I had no idea, and he was a senator. 830 00:45:50,269 --> 00:45:54,229 And he was already nicknamed Putin's banker. 831 00:45:54,316 --> 00:45:56,275 narrator: The next time Alexandra crossed paths 832 00:45:56,362 --> 00:45:59,452 with Putin's banker would be two years later 833 00:45:59,539 --> 00:46:02,281 and in very different circumstances. 834 00:46:02,368 --> 00:46:03,848 - I was working for something called 835 00:46:03,935 --> 00:46:06,676 the Laureus Sports Awards in St. Petersburg. 836 00:46:06,764 --> 00:46:09,375 And I was asked to invite people who would spend 837 00:46:09,462 --> 00:46:12,291 10,000 euros on a ticket. 838 00:46:12,378 --> 00:46:13,814 I suddenly remembered him, 839 00:46:13,901 --> 00:46:16,208 and then when I met him at the sports awards, 840 00:46:16,295 --> 00:46:18,079 I walked up to him, and I said, do you remember me? 841 00:46:18,166 --> 00:46:19,820 Hello. 842 00:46:19,907 --> 00:46:22,257 And he looked at me and went, oh, my goodness. 843 00:46:22,344 --> 00:46:23,258 You've made my evening. 844 00:46:23,345 --> 00:46:25,391 I'm so happy you're here. 845 00:46:25,478 --> 00:46:27,872 I've thought about you every day since those lessons, 846 00:46:27,959 --> 00:46:29,569 and I was completely staggered because at the lessons, 847 00:46:29,656 --> 00:46:32,354 he'd looked so serious. 848 00:46:32,441 --> 00:46:34,487 So I sat next to him at dinner, 849 00:46:34,574 --> 00:46:36,010 and Sergei just clung to me, I remember, 850 00:46:36,097 --> 00:46:38,230 and I felt--it was very exciting to feel 851 00:46:38,317 --> 00:46:40,014 that looked after. 852 00:46:40,101 --> 00:46:42,364 And in my life, I'd never felt like that and protected. 853 00:46:42,451 --> 00:46:45,454 And then Sergei really pursued me, I suppose. 854 00:46:47,630 --> 00:46:49,850 The event went over two days. There was a dinner. 855 00:46:49,937 --> 00:46:51,809 And then the next day, there was this big ceremony 856 00:46:51,896 --> 00:46:53,506 and then the sort of after party, 857 00:46:53,593 --> 00:46:55,987 and he just was with me all the time. 858 00:46:58,293 --> 00:47:00,948 narrator: Sergei's friend, the president of Russia, 859 00:47:01,035 --> 00:47:03,037 is guest of honor. 860 00:47:03,124 --> 00:47:05,083 - Putin gave a little talk at the ceremony. 861 00:47:05,170 --> 00:47:06,388 I just remember his body language. 862 00:47:06,475 --> 00:47:08,129 He's quite small. 863 00:47:08,216 --> 00:47:09,696 There's a lot of sort of strutting, 864 00:47:09,783 --> 00:47:12,438 you know, really trying to pick himself up. 865 00:47:12,525 --> 00:47:15,310 At the end of the dinner, suddenly, we all stood up, 866 00:47:15,397 --> 00:47:18,748 and then Putin marched out with this great phalanx 867 00:47:18,836 --> 00:47:20,838 of bodyguards around him. 868 00:47:20,925 --> 00:47:22,448 And as he did, I was standing at Sergei, 869 00:47:22,535 --> 00:47:24,406 and I saw Sergei go like that, 870 00:47:24,493 --> 00:47:26,321 and he, like, caught their eyes, 871 00:47:26,408 --> 00:47:28,149 and he sort of bowed. 872 00:47:28,236 --> 00:47:30,760 It was quite a kind of almost feudal thing, you know. 873 00:47:30,848 --> 00:47:33,720 He sort of bowed slightly to him. 874 00:47:33,807 --> 00:47:36,288 narrator: Alexandra says Sergei felt like 875 00:47:36,375 --> 00:47:38,899 his relationship with Putin was special, 876 00:47:38,986 --> 00:47:41,249 and he was stunned when the president demanded 877 00:47:41,336 --> 00:47:43,425 a cut of his business. 878 00:47:43,512 --> 00:47:45,036 - He owned a huge property on Red Square, 879 00:47:45,123 --> 00:47:47,299 which was half the length of Red Square. 880 00:47:47,386 --> 00:47:49,954 And he was meant to make it into a very luxurious hotel. 881 00:47:50,041 --> 00:47:52,086 And it was worth-- I don't know--3 billion. 882 00:47:52,173 --> 00:47:54,132 He got some very famous Belgian architects 883 00:47:54,219 --> 00:47:57,309 who came and made a whole plan of how to develop it 884 00:47:57,396 --> 00:47:59,746 into a luxury hotel. 885 00:47:59,833 --> 00:48:02,357 And it would've been the most amazing location. 886 00:48:02,444 --> 00:48:04,751 narrator: But Alexandra says Putin made Sergei 887 00:48:04,838 --> 00:48:07,319 an offer he couldn't refuse. 888 00:48:07,406 --> 00:48:09,364 - Putin said, look, it's opposite the Kremlin, 889 00:48:09,451 --> 00:48:11,671 so I have to see what the plan is for this hotel. 890 00:48:11,758 --> 00:48:14,021 And so Putin came. He showed him the plan. 891 00:48:14,108 --> 00:48:17,459 And he says that during the meeting, Putin's face changed, 892 00:48:17,546 --> 00:48:18,504 and suddenly, he realized, oh, my gosh. 893 00:48:18,591 --> 00:48:20,636 He's so jealous. 894 00:48:20,723 --> 00:48:22,682 Weeks later, these guards were moved in, 895 00:48:22,769 --> 00:48:24,902 and the property was seized. 896 00:48:24,989 --> 00:48:26,555 And that was the first time that 897 00:48:26,642 --> 00:48:28,296 he'd had to hand something over. 898 00:48:28,383 --> 00:48:30,429 And he told Sergei, you're gonna be compensated, 899 00:48:30,516 --> 00:48:33,040 and he never was compensated. 900 00:48:33,127 --> 00:48:36,130 Sergei told me, "Because I don't give him money, 901 00:48:36,217 --> 00:48:37,958 I'm being punished." 902 00:48:38,045 --> 00:48:41,657 By this point, Putin had gone power hungry and crazy, really. 903 00:48:41,744 --> 00:48:43,746 - There's no difference between Russian organized crime 904 00:48:43,833 --> 00:48:45,487 and the Russian government. 905 00:48:45,574 --> 00:48:47,011 The Russian government is effectively 906 00:48:47,098 --> 00:48:48,577 an organized crime organization, 907 00:48:48,664 --> 00:48:51,493 and Vladimir Putin is the mafia boss. 908 00:48:51,580 --> 00:48:54,627 narrator: In 2009, Bill Browder discovers 909 00:48:54,714 --> 00:48:57,760 what the oligarchs had already learned the hard way-- 910 00:48:57,847 --> 00:49:00,981 that no matter how sizable your financial resources, 911 00:49:01,068 --> 00:49:03,549 you can never win against someone 912 00:49:03,636 --> 00:49:07,248 who has a government agencies under his control. 913 00:49:07,335 --> 00:49:09,990 - Sergei Magnitsky, my lawyer, my Russian lawyer, 914 00:49:10,077 --> 00:49:14,038 uncovered a $230 million government corruption scheme. 915 00:49:14,125 --> 00:49:16,823 And he believed that there was a rule of law in Russia. 916 00:49:16,910 --> 00:49:18,259 And he believed that even though there 917 00:49:18,346 --> 00:49:19,826 was corruption in the system that the law 918 00:49:19,913 --> 00:49:21,567 would eventually prevail. 919 00:49:21,654 --> 00:49:27,181 And he thought that Putin was a patriot and a nationalist. 920 00:49:27,268 --> 00:49:30,184 And I never believed any of those things, 921 00:49:30,271 --> 00:49:33,231 and I asked Sergei to leave after he uncovered 922 00:49:33,318 --> 00:49:37,322 this $230 million scheme, to come to London at my expense 923 00:49:37,409 --> 00:49:39,454 and stay here under my protection. 924 00:49:39,541 --> 00:49:42,414 But Sergei was a patriot and an idealist, 925 00:49:42,501 --> 00:49:44,546 and he stayed in Russia. 926 00:49:44,633 --> 00:49:46,635 And he was subsequently arrested, 927 00:49:46,722 --> 00:49:47,767 tortured, and killed. 928 00:49:50,639 --> 00:49:52,424 That weighs very heavily on me, 929 00:49:52,511 --> 00:49:54,992 and I do regret that I didn't try harder to get him out. 930 00:49:58,343 --> 00:50:00,606 narrator: After refusing to cut Putin in 931 00:50:00,693 --> 00:50:02,651 on his hotel project, 932 00:50:02,738 --> 00:50:06,307 Alexandra says Sergei Pugachev falls out of favor. 933 00:50:06,394 --> 00:50:07,917 - At the end of 2010, 934 00:50:08,005 --> 00:50:11,573 we'd gone together to St. Barts over New Year. 935 00:50:11,660 --> 00:50:15,273 And then I stayed on with the children. 936 00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:17,101 narrator: It is when she is online 937 00:50:17,188 --> 00:50:19,016 looking for mentions about Sergei 938 00:50:19,103 --> 00:50:21,801 that Alexandra learned some bad news. 939 00:50:21,888 --> 00:50:23,585 - Every day, I would type in Sergei's name 940 00:50:23,672 --> 00:50:25,457 to see what was going-- you know, what he was doing 941 00:50:25,544 --> 00:50:27,546 or whatever. 942 00:50:27,633 --> 00:50:31,724 And it came up saying he'd been demoted as a senator. 943 00:50:31,811 --> 00:50:32,942 narrator: The meaning of his demotion 944 00:50:33,030 --> 00:50:34,988 is immediately clear to her: 945 00:50:35,075 --> 00:50:38,644 Sergei has been expelled from the inner circle. 946 00:50:38,731 --> 00:50:41,168 - I was terrified because I knew 947 00:50:41,255 --> 00:50:44,041 that it meant he'd no longer have diplomatic immunity. 948 00:50:44,128 --> 00:50:45,520 I knew that, you know, 949 00:50:45,607 --> 00:50:47,044 he'd been losing all these assets. 950 00:50:47,131 --> 00:50:48,480 I didn't care about the money, 951 00:50:48,567 --> 00:50:50,525 but I was so frightened for him 952 00:50:50,612 --> 00:50:53,180 because there have been so many stories. 953 00:50:53,267 --> 00:50:56,531 I just--he could be arrested. 954 00:50:56,618 --> 00:50:59,360 narrator: Alexandra now fears for Sergei's life 955 00:50:59,447 --> 00:51:02,624 and what it would mean for her and their three children. 956 00:51:02,711 --> 00:51:04,583 - I remember calling him. He didn't answer the phone, 957 00:51:04,670 --> 00:51:05,845 and I was calling and calling. 958 00:51:05,932 --> 00:51:08,500 And then about a few hours later, 959 00:51:08,587 --> 00:51:10,763 Sergei called me and said, "Hello, I'm in France." 960 00:51:10,850 --> 00:51:14,114 And I was so relieved because, you know, he was alive, 961 00:51:14,201 --> 00:51:16,421 and he was--and then he never went back to Russia. 962 00:51:16,508 --> 00:51:20,338 ♪ ♪ 963 00:51:20,425 --> 00:51:22,949 narrator: In building his cell phone empire, 964 00:51:23,036 --> 00:51:25,647 tycoon Evgeny Chichvarkin 965 00:51:25,734 --> 00:51:28,302 was never part of the inner circle. 966 00:51:28,389 --> 00:51:30,130 In fact, he did everything he could 967 00:51:30,217 --> 00:51:32,306 to fly under Putin's radar. 968 00:51:32,393 --> 00:51:34,308 But that was impossible. 969 00:51:34,395 --> 00:51:39,966 - One of Putin's general of FSB came into warehouse 970 00:51:40,053 --> 00:51:43,317 and just took the assets 971 00:51:43,404 --> 00:51:47,321 for 36 million of mobile phones 972 00:51:47,408 --> 00:51:49,671 and said, "We have to have a share." 973 00:51:49,758 --> 00:51:51,847 We said no. 974 00:51:51,934 --> 00:51:53,545 They said, yes, you will. 975 00:51:53,632 --> 00:51:54,894 We said no. 976 00:51:54,981 --> 00:51:57,462 And then Putin said, go ahead. 977 00:51:57,549 --> 00:52:00,160 Bam. 978 00:52:00,247 --> 00:52:02,815 narrator: In 2008, Evgeny is charged 979 00:52:02,902 --> 00:52:05,774 with a slew of financial crimes. 980 00:52:05,861 --> 00:52:08,951 The Putin regime would get its share of his assets, 981 00:52:09,038 --> 00:52:10,953 or he would go to prison. 982 00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:13,956 - In a few days, five people was in the prison. 983 00:52:14,043 --> 00:52:17,046 There was open criminal case against me. 984 00:52:17,134 --> 00:52:21,094 - I think that was an incredibly stressful time. 985 00:52:21,181 --> 00:52:24,706 His children never went to school without a bodyguard. 986 00:52:24,793 --> 00:52:30,321 - My head of security came to me 987 00:52:30,408 --> 00:52:35,282 and said, "I know from the head of the prison 988 00:52:35,369 --> 00:52:38,764 "there's the special luxury room is waiting 989 00:52:38,851 --> 00:52:42,637 for you from the next Tuesday." 990 00:52:42,724 --> 00:52:44,639 Said, thank you so much. 991 00:52:44,726 --> 00:52:46,424 I'm going to airport. 992 00:52:46,511 --> 00:52:48,339 Enough is enough. 993 00:52:48,426 --> 00:52:50,906 - Fortunately, he had a UK visa. 994 00:52:50,993 --> 00:52:53,953 So he just, you know, boarded the next plane 995 00:52:54,040 --> 00:52:55,955 and came to London. 996 00:52:56,042 --> 00:52:59,045 He managed to take most of his family with him 997 00:52:59,132 --> 00:53:02,614 and at least a part of what he's earned. 998 00:53:05,094 --> 00:53:07,532 narrator: One family member Evgeny had to leave 999 00:53:07,619 --> 00:53:11,231 was his 59-year-old mother. 1000 00:53:11,318 --> 00:53:14,060 Four months later, he makes the tough decision 1001 00:53:14,147 --> 00:53:17,194 not to return to Russia for her 60th birthday, 1002 00:53:17,281 --> 00:53:20,327 convinced Putin's agents have laid a trap for him. 1003 00:53:22,242 --> 00:53:27,421 - My mother was found dead next day after her 60th birthday, 1004 00:53:27,508 --> 00:53:32,557 and the police said it's accident. 1005 00:53:32,644 --> 00:53:37,692 - The theory is that she was killed to make him come back 1006 00:53:37,779 --> 00:53:39,607 so they could capture him. 1007 00:53:39,694 --> 00:53:44,525 He hasn't been to Russia ever since. 1008 00:53:44,612 --> 00:53:47,615 narrator: Evgeny embarks on a new life, 1009 00:53:47,702 --> 00:53:50,879 building a business in fine wines. 1010 00:53:50,966 --> 00:53:52,794 - And that's how we met-- at a job interview, 1011 00:53:52,881 --> 00:53:56,102 and he asked, do you drink wine? 1012 00:53:56,189 --> 00:53:59,236 I was like, look, you know, I enjoy good food. 1013 00:53:59,323 --> 00:54:01,020 I'm sure I will enjoy good wine, 1014 00:54:01,107 --> 00:54:03,631 and this all sounds very interesting. 1015 00:54:03,718 --> 00:54:09,724 - When we start to work, I believe that with this lady, 1016 00:54:09,811 --> 00:54:11,900 we can do everything now. 1017 00:54:11,987 --> 00:54:14,860 - It's natural when you work very closely with someone, 1018 00:54:14,947 --> 00:54:16,340 you get to know them. 1019 00:54:16,427 --> 00:54:20,474 Then you fall in love and-- 1020 00:54:20,561 --> 00:54:22,171 yeah. 1021 00:54:22,259 --> 00:54:25,436 It's the law of attraction, something like that. 1022 00:54:25,523 --> 00:54:31,137 ♪ ♪ 1023 00:54:31,224 --> 00:54:33,966 narrator: By 2010, Tatiana and Alexandra 1024 00:54:34,053 --> 00:54:39,188 are both living in London just a few miles apart. 1025 00:54:39,276 --> 00:54:43,889 Yet they've never met until now. 1026 00:54:43,976 --> 00:54:46,718 - Yeah, so for my experience, from what I saw of Sergei, 1027 00:54:46,805 --> 00:54:49,982 there were two types of successful people in Russia. 1028 00:54:50,069 --> 00:54:52,114 There were the oligarchs, who Sergei-- 1029 00:54:52,201 --> 00:54:53,812 he was like a deal breaker. 1030 00:54:53,899 --> 00:54:56,728 - Yeah, I think it's, you know-- 1031 00:54:56,815 --> 00:54:59,861 there are businessmen like Evgeny. 1032 00:54:59,948 --> 00:55:04,605 But that's very different to wanting to be in power. 1033 00:55:04,692 --> 00:55:08,087 Whenever you make a contract with the devil, 1034 00:55:08,174 --> 00:55:10,437 there will be consequences. 1035 00:55:10,524 --> 00:55:14,311 You know, if you deal with the dark side, 1036 00:55:14,398 --> 00:55:16,661 it will come to haunt you later. 1037 00:55:16,748 --> 00:55:19,794 narrator: Alexandra and Sergei are no longer a couple, 1038 00:55:19,881 --> 00:55:22,449 but during the ten years she spent with him, 1039 00:55:22,536 --> 00:55:25,583 he painted a vivid portrait of his onetime friend 1040 00:55:25,670 --> 00:55:27,498 Vladimir Putin. 1041 00:55:27,585 --> 00:55:29,717 - He was the first person who took Putin 1042 00:55:29,804 --> 00:55:31,676 to see where he would live. 1043 00:55:31,763 --> 00:55:34,461 And he said Putin was literally like a child in a sweet shop, 1044 00:55:34,548 --> 00:55:39,771 just amazed by the sort of lavishness of it. 1045 00:55:39,858 --> 00:55:42,774 - He never gets to actually live in those villas, 1046 00:55:42,861 --> 00:55:44,341 use those yachts. 1047 00:55:44,428 --> 00:55:46,343 You know, he is stuck in Russia. 1048 00:55:46,430 --> 00:55:48,170 - Sergei was a bit like a microcosm of this. 1049 00:55:48,257 --> 00:55:50,564 He had an amazing yacht. 1050 00:55:50,651 --> 00:55:52,784 We had the best house on St. Barts. 1051 00:55:52,871 --> 00:55:56,744 We had, you know, planes and whatever we wanted. 1052 00:55:56,831 --> 00:55:58,485 He never used them. 1053 00:55:58,572 --> 00:56:00,879 All he wanted to do was lie in bed 1054 00:56:00,966 --> 00:56:02,663 and watch the Weather Channel. 1055 00:56:02,750 --> 00:56:05,884 - Putin--because he came from a very-- 1056 00:56:05,971 --> 00:56:08,539 - Humble. - Very humble family. 1057 00:56:08,626 --> 00:56:12,934 And I think that's a big part in understanding who he is 1058 00:56:13,021 --> 00:56:14,545 and what he's doing. 1059 00:56:14,632 --> 00:56:16,851 - For me, Sergei, his behavior, everything 1060 00:56:16,938 --> 00:56:18,287 just seems to mirror Putin. 1061 00:56:18,375 --> 00:56:22,901 And from my experience, he trusts nobody. 1062 00:56:22,988 --> 00:56:27,558 - I actually don't think there was a safe way of, 1063 00:56:27,645 --> 00:56:30,387 you know, staying really wealthy in Russia 1064 00:56:30,474 --> 00:56:32,911 because inevitably, someone will be 1065 00:56:32,998 --> 00:56:34,652 coming knocking on your door. 1066 00:56:38,482 --> 00:56:40,919 narrator: And that was certainly what Russian banker 1067 00:56:41,006 --> 00:56:44,357 German Gorbuntsov believed when he fled Russia 1068 00:56:44,444 --> 00:56:46,011 after discovering his business partners 1069 00:56:46,098 --> 00:56:47,578 were allegedly defrauding him. 1070 00:56:52,321 --> 00:56:54,106 Gorbuntsov was due to give evidence 1071 00:56:54,193 --> 00:56:56,674 against two other former partners 1072 00:56:56,761 --> 00:56:59,633 in a meeting with Russian investigators. 1073 00:56:59,720 --> 00:57:01,722 But it never took place. 1074 00:57:01,809 --> 00:57:04,508 A security camera outside his home 1075 00:57:04,595 --> 00:57:06,988 captured what happened next. 1076 00:57:07,075 --> 00:57:12,211 ♪ ♪ 1077 00:57:12,298 --> 00:57:14,213 [gunshots] 1078 00:57:14,300 --> 00:57:17,129 - [speaking Russian] 1079 00:57:37,149 --> 00:57:39,020 narrator: Gorbuntsov had built up a fortune 1080 00:57:39,107 --> 00:57:42,110 worth over $1 billion, 1081 00:57:42,197 --> 00:57:44,591 and at one time owned Russia's Spartak hockey team 1082 00:57:44,678 --> 00:57:46,985 and a Le Mans race car. 1083 00:57:47,072 --> 00:57:48,682 He believes the hit was ordered 1084 00:57:48,769 --> 00:57:50,684 by his business partners 1085 00:57:50,771 --> 00:57:53,165 who had boasted of their ties to the FSB, 1086 00:57:53,252 --> 00:57:57,299 the chain of command going right up to the Kremlin. 1087 00:57:57,386 --> 00:57:58,823 - It's kind of like "The Sopranos." 1088 00:57:58,910 --> 00:58:00,520 You have the Philadelphia mafia, 1089 00:58:00,607 --> 00:58:04,045 the New Jersey mafia, the Brooklyn mafia. 1090 00:58:04,132 --> 00:58:06,961 Each of them have their own areas 1091 00:58:07,048 --> 00:58:10,138 for committing extortion, prostitution, 1092 00:58:10,225 --> 00:58:11,879 drug dealing, et cetera. 1093 00:58:11,966 --> 00:58:13,490 They get their money, and then they've got to 1094 00:58:13,577 --> 00:58:17,537 divert a bunch of that money right up to the mafia boss. 1095 00:58:17,624 --> 00:58:19,365 And if anyone stands in their way, 1096 00:58:19,452 --> 00:58:22,150 then they can use the FSB, 1097 00:58:22,237 --> 00:58:24,109 which is the Russian security services, 1098 00:58:24,196 --> 00:58:25,502 to have people arrested, 1099 00:58:25,589 --> 00:58:27,634 to have people killed, et cetera. 1100 00:58:30,637 --> 00:58:33,422 narrator: Exiled oligarch Boris Berezovsky 1101 00:58:33,510 --> 00:58:37,426 knew he was never truly safe from Putin's long reach. 1102 00:58:37,514 --> 00:58:40,081 Here's how he put it to British journalists in 2012. 1103 00:58:52,180 --> 00:58:54,487 narrator: His remarks were eerily prophetic. 1104 00:58:56,663 --> 00:58:58,491 The following year, 1105 00:58:58,578 --> 00:59:02,016 seven years after his friend Sasha Litvinenko's poisoning, 1106 00:59:02,103 --> 00:59:05,237 Berezovsky is found dead from apparent suicide 1107 00:59:05,324 --> 00:59:07,718 at his mansion just outside of London. 1108 00:59:09,807 --> 00:59:12,984 Official report stated he had hung himself in his bathroom. 1109 00:59:16,596 --> 00:59:20,774 - When I received this news, I was really shocked. 1110 00:59:20,861 --> 00:59:23,603 Very, very devastating. 1111 00:59:23,690 --> 00:59:25,910 And I never believed he committed suicide. 1112 00:59:25,997 --> 00:59:27,520 Never. 1113 00:59:27,607 --> 00:59:29,130 - I do remember very clearly when Berezovsky died. 1114 00:59:29,217 --> 00:59:30,610 I was sitting on the sofa with Sergei, 1115 00:59:30,697 --> 00:59:33,178 and we were watching the news, and it came up, 1116 00:59:33,265 --> 00:59:37,269 and Sergei immediately said that was not suicide. 1117 00:59:37,356 --> 00:59:38,966 - The circumstances of his death 1118 00:59:39,053 --> 00:59:41,621 are still mysterious and would lead me 1119 00:59:41,708 --> 00:59:44,929 to believe based on what I've read, he was murdered. 1120 00:59:49,107 --> 00:59:51,675 narrator: Sergei Pugachev always suspected 1121 00:59:51,762 --> 00:59:54,416 that Putin was not finished with him either. 1122 00:59:54,503 --> 00:59:56,375 His partner Alexandra is the first 1123 00:59:56,462 --> 00:59:58,464 to bring him some bad news. 1124 00:59:58,551 --> 01:00:00,466 - A friend of mine works in political intelligence, 1125 01:00:00,553 --> 01:00:01,685 and she had come to me and said, look, 1126 01:00:01,772 --> 01:00:04,078 I've got to warn you, there's a search 1127 01:00:04,165 --> 01:00:06,603 going out on Sergei's assets. 1128 01:00:06,690 --> 01:00:08,692 True enough, there was a worldwide freezing order, 1129 01:00:08,779 --> 01:00:11,564 and they froze all his assets. 1130 01:00:11,651 --> 01:00:14,088 narrator: Putin's regime charges Sergei 1131 01:00:14,175 --> 01:00:16,482 with embezzling hundreds of millions of dollars 1132 01:00:16,569 --> 01:00:18,571 from his Russian bank. 1133 01:00:18,658 --> 01:00:21,095 Alexandra tries to help, making an introduction 1134 01:00:21,182 --> 01:00:23,837 to a top British lawyer. 1135 01:00:23,924 --> 01:00:26,231 - They said, "You're about to get a freezing order, 1136 01:00:26,318 --> 01:00:28,102 and we can help you." 1137 01:00:28,189 --> 01:00:31,105 We can make your assets less visible, and blah blah blah. 1138 01:00:31,192 --> 01:00:33,978 And I realized Sergei is so chaotic, 1139 01:00:34,065 --> 01:00:36,720 his personality makes it absolutely impossible. 1140 01:00:36,807 --> 01:00:37,895 He can't listen to anyone. 1141 01:00:37,982 --> 01:00:40,071 So for him, he would say to me often, 1142 01:00:40,158 --> 01:00:41,768 who the hell is a lawyer? 1143 01:00:41,855 --> 01:00:43,683 They haven't made as much money as I have. 1144 01:00:43,770 --> 01:00:45,293 They're nobody. 1145 01:00:45,380 --> 01:00:46,817 It was just appalling. 1146 01:00:46,904 --> 01:00:49,080 He thought he could just bulldoze his way 1147 01:00:49,167 --> 01:00:51,952 and bully his way through everything. 1148 01:00:52,039 --> 01:00:53,737 narrator: Instead of taking legal advice, 1149 01:00:53,824 --> 01:00:57,262 Sergei decided to escape to France. 1150 01:00:57,349 --> 01:00:58,655 - You know, you can't do that. 1151 01:00:58,742 --> 01:01:00,569 You've been told not to leave the country. 1152 01:01:00,657 --> 01:01:02,223 And I said, well, I just tell you one thing. 1153 01:01:02,310 --> 01:01:04,182 If he does that, I am not following. 1154 01:01:04,269 --> 01:01:06,097 I never ever will follow him. 1155 01:01:06,184 --> 01:01:08,534 He just had a tantrum and said, that's it. 1156 01:01:08,621 --> 01:01:10,928 And he ran away to France. 1157 01:01:11,015 --> 01:01:12,364 About two weeks later, 1158 01:01:12,451 --> 01:01:15,410 the bodyguard knocked on the door. 1159 01:01:15,497 --> 01:01:16,629 I said, Denise, what are you doing here? 1160 01:01:16,716 --> 01:01:17,761 Where is Sergei? What's going on? 1161 01:01:17,848 --> 01:01:19,632 And he wouldn't look at me. 1162 01:01:19,719 --> 01:01:22,287 He walked around the house like this robot picking up 1163 01:01:22,374 --> 01:01:25,682 every single personal belonging of Sergei's--all his papers, 1164 01:01:25,769 --> 01:01:28,423 absolutely every sock, every--absolutely everything, 1165 01:01:28,510 --> 01:01:30,164 cleaning the house of it. 1166 01:01:30,251 --> 01:01:32,471 Put it all in a van and drove off without literally 1167 01:01:32,558 --> 01:01:34,125 addressing one word to me. 1168 01:01:34,212 --> 01:01:35,779 narrator: Next come British officials 1169 01:01:35,866 --> 01:01:37,911 from the Crown Prosecution Service. 1170 01:01:37,998 --> 01:01:39,217 - Yeah, that is horrific. 1171 01:01:39,304 --> 01:01:41,698 I was going to church with my children. 1172 01:01:41,785 --> 01:01:44,526 And there was banging on the door, 1173 01:01:44,613 --> 01:01:47,268 and it was a lawyer with a search warrant. 1174 01:01:47,355 --> 01:01:50,402 So they went round, got my iPad, 1175 01:01:50,489 --> 01:01:52,578 got my laptop, my phone, 1176 01:01:52,665 --> 01:01:54,841 downloaded literally every message 1177 01:01:54,928 --> 01:01:57,322 I'd ever written to anybody. 1178 01:01:57,409 --> 01:01:59,106 narrator: Sergei is found in contempt 1179 01:01:59,193 --> 01:02:02,370 when he fails to appear in the British court. 1180 01:02:02,457 --> 01:02:07,245 In absentia, he is sentenced to two years in prison. 1181 01:02:07,332 --> 01:02:10,639 Alexandra cuts ties with Sergei. 1182 01:02:10,727 --> 01:02:13,251 Their three children now live with her permanently 1183 01:02:13,338 --> 01:02:14,382 in London. 1184 01:02:14,469 --> 01:02:20,127 ♪ ♪ 1185 01:02:20,214 --> 01:02:24,088 Are there other sides to the iron willed ruler of Russia? 1186 01:02:24,175 --> 01:02:28,092 Vladimir Putin the man, the human being? 1187 01:02:28,179 --> 01:02:30,747 Family friend Ksenia Sobchak 1188 01:02:30,834 --> 01:02:34,707 has had a glimpse of the human side of Putin. 1189 01:02:34,794 --> 01:02:38,624 - He always calls on the day-- when my father passed away, 1190 01:02:38,711 --> 01:02:43,281 he calls to my mother and says his condolences. 1191 01:02:43,368 --> 01:02:47,241 So he never forgets to do that. 1192 01:02:47,328 --> 01:02:51,376 And I know that he loved my father sincerely very much. 1193 01:02:51,463 --> 01:02:54,771 These are things that are very hard to fake. 1194 01:02:57,164 --> 01:02:59,601 narrator: In 2013, during an intermission 1195 01:02:59,688 --> 01:03:01,516 at the Moscow Ballet, 1196 01:03:01,603 --> 01:03:04,258 Putin broke some news to the public, 1197 01:03:04,345 --> 01:03:07,871 giving the world a rare look into his private life. 1198 01:03:07,958 --> 01:03:09,655 - [speaking Russian] 1199 01:03:09,742 --> 01:03:12,614 - [speaking Russian] 1200 01:03:34,114 --> 01:03:36,943 - [speaking Russian] 1201 01:03:39,772 --> 01:03:41,208 - He just-- very off the cuff 1202 01:03:41,295 --> 01:03:42,514 and apparently spontaneous, 1203 01:03:42,601 --> 01:03:44,646 but nothing is spontaneous in the KGB 1204 01:03:44,733 --> 01:03:47,388 or let alone in Russian television. 1205 01:03:47,475 --> 01:03:48,694 So I don't think it really was. 1206 01:03:48,781 --> 01:03:52,132 But he said, "We're getting divorced," 1207 01:03:52,219 --> 01:03:55,135 and we've just never really heard about her since. 1208 01:03:55,222 --> 01:03:56,702 - [speaking Russian] 1209 01:03:56,789 --> 01:03:58,486 - Sergei used to tell me 1210 01:03:58,573 --> 01:04:00,314 that actually she was more intelligent than him 1211 01:04:00,401 --> 01:04:01,925 and more charismatic, 1212 01:04:02,012 --> 01:04:04,057 and in private, she would really 1213 01:04:04,144 --> 01:04:06,451 humiliate him and sort of laugh at him. 1214 01:04:06,538 --> 01:04:08,279 And she was from a more sophisticated family. 1215 01:04:08,366 --> 01:04:10,803 He was from a very, very poor, very humble family. 1216 01:04:10,890 --> 01:04:12,587 And I think she came from a, 1217 01:04:12,674 --> 01:04:14,241 you know, more well-off family. 1218 01:04:14,328 --> 01:04:17,897 And so then the boot was on the other foot. 1219 01:04:17,984 --> 01:04:21,814 So I think maybe there was an element of revenge. 1220 01:04:21,901 --> 01:04:24,121 narrator: The presidential divorce isn't a huge surprise 1221 01:04:24,208 --> 01:04:25,862 to the Russian public, 1222 01:04:25,949 --> 01:04:27,602 for whom it was common knowledge 1223 01:04:27,689 --> 01:04:30,083 that Putin had a mistress. 1224 01:04:30,170 --> 01:04:33,826 Alexandra remembers when she first saw her. 1225 01:04:33,913 --> 01:04:36,263 - It was a very big event. All the oligarchs were there. 1226 01:04:36,350 --> 01:04:38,004 And then we were just sort of standing around, 1227 01:04:38,091 --> 01:04:40,050 and I saw a little gathering, 1228 01:04:40,137 --> 01:04:41,790 and I looked over, 1229 01:04:41,878 --> 01:04:44,184 and there was a girl in a kind of Grecian white dress-- 1230 01:04:44,271 --> 01:04:46,665 yeah, that dress a bit like Marilyn Monroe famously wore-- 1231 01:04:46,752 --> 01:04:48,928 sort of twirling around. 1232 01:04:49,015 --> 01:04:51,365 And it was eye catching 'cause it was quite extraordinary 1233 01:04:51,452 --> 01:04:53,063 that--obviously the attention that she wanted 1234 01:04:53,150 --> 01:04:56,283 and that she had this group of people watching her. 1235 01:04:56,370 --> 01:04:57,371 And I turned to Sergei, and it was just-- 1236 01:04:57,458 --> 01:04:58,720 I said, oh, my gosh. 1237 01:04:58,807 --> 01:05:01,027 I taught that girl English. It's Alina. 1238 01:05:01,114 --> 01:05:03,421 And I hadn't seen her since, 1239 01:05:03,508 --> 01:05:06,337 and it was just--seemed such a funny coincidence. 1240 01:05:06,424 --> 01:05:08,121 But what struck me most was that 1241 01:05:08,208 --> 01:05:09,644 she had put on so much weight, 1242 01:05:09,731 --> 01:05:11,124 and she's obviously a very, very famous-- 1243 01:05:11,211 --> 01:05:12,996 well, very famous in Russia--sportswoman. 1244 01:05:13,083 --> 01:05:14,519 So I said to Sergei, oh, my goodness. 1245 01:05:14,606 --> 01:05:16,521 But she's-- poor thing, she's so fat 1246 01:05:16,608 --> 01:05:17,870 compared to what she was. 1247 01:05:17,957 --> 01:05:21,395 And he said, oh, well, she's pregnant. 1248 01:05:21,482 --> 01:05:24,007 And she is Putin's girlfriend. 1249 01:05:24,094 --> 01:05:25,530 narrator: Even after his divorce, 1250 01:05:25,617 --> 01:05:27,836 Putin keeps his life with Alina Kabaeva 1251 01:05:27,924 --> 01:05:29,838 out of the public eye. 1252 01:05:29,926 --> 01:05:31,405 - The weird thing is, you think, 1253 01:05:31,492 --> 01:05:33,320 why don't you now live with Alina Kabaeva officially? 1254 01:05:33,407 --> 01:05:34,669 She was a gymnast. 1255 01:05:34,756 --> 01:05:36,802 She's like a real Soviet heroine, 1256 01:05:36,889 --> 01:05:38,673 which really fits with the whole propaganda 1257 01:05:38,760 --> 01:05:40,980 Soviet angle now. 1258 01:05:41,067 --> 01:05:42,286 And that's quite a mystery, 1259 01:05:42,373 --> 01:05:43,896 but I can only guess that he's just such 1260 01:05:43,983 --> 01:05:45,767 an egomaniac that he doesn't literally want 1261 01:05:45,854 --> 01:05:47,856 anyone distracting from him. 1262 01:05:47,944 --> 01:05:49,858 I don't know. 1263 01:05:49,946 --> 01:05:52,252 narrator: To observers, Putin appears 1264 01:05:52,339 --> 01:05:55,038 more isolated than ever. 1265 01:05:55,125 --> 01:05:59,085 - This is--you know, this is a very lonely existence. 1266 01:05:59,172 --> 01:06:00,782 And, you know, you should be surrounded 1267 01:06:00,869 --> 01:06:04,612 by your grandchildren and love and family. 1268 01:06:04,699 --> 01:06:08,921 He completely alienated everyone because he is-- 1269 01:06:09,008 --> 01:06:10,749 you know, he was always paranoid. 1270 01:06:10,836 --> 01:06:13,317 But now I think there are so-- 1271 01:06:13,404 --> 01:06:17,103 there are millions of people across the globe who wish him-- 1272 01:06:17,190 --> 01:06:18,278 - Dead. - Dead. 1273 01:06:21,499 --> 01:06:23,327 - I know this, his nickname 1274 01:06:23,414 --> 01:06:25,982 the other KGB officers gave him-- 1275 01:06:26,069 --> 01:06:27,853 the moth. 1276 01:06:27,940 --> 01:06:29,986 That's important. 1277 01:06:30,073 --> 01:06:36,253 At night, in silent, in dark, nicknames in Russia so strong. 1278 01:06:36,340 --> 01:06:38,168 It's like a bullet. 1279 01:06:41,780 --> 01:06:43,608 narrator: Until his war on Ukraine, 1280 01:06:43,695 --> 01:06:45,958 most countries understood Putin not just 1281 01:06:46,045 --> 01:06:49,440 as a ruthless dictator but also as a leader 1282 01:06:49,527 --> 01:06:53,096 in control of vast energy resources, 1283 01:06:53,183 --> 01:06:55,620 someone you had to do business with. 1284 01:06:55,707 --> 01:06:59,058 Here he is in 2018 at an opening ceremony 1285 01:06:59,145 --> 01:07:02,409 for the World Cup being hosted by Russia. 1286 01:07:02,496 --> 01:07:05,064 - This is the face of Russia. 1287 01:07:05,151 --> 01:07:08,589 This is the face of the Russia that we love. 1288 01:07:08,676 --> 01:07:12,245 And thank you most importantly as well, President Putin. 1289 01:07:12,332 --> 01:07:14,291 [speaks Russian] For your commitment, 1290 01:07:14,378 --> 01:07:16,945 for your dedication, for your passion. 1291 01:07:17,033 --> 01:07:19,731 Without you, all this would not have been possible. 1292 01:07:19,818 --> 01:07:21,907 I'm sure about that. 1293 01:07:21,994 --> 01:07:24,214 So thank you. Congratulations. 1294 01:07:24,301 --> 01:07:27,521 We did a good job together as well. 1295 01:07:27,608 --> 01:07:31,047 [applause] 1296 01:07:31,134 --> 01:07:32,396 - Putin has done a very good job 1297 01:07:32,483 --> 01:07:34,659 over the last 22 years 1298 01:07:34,746 --> 01:07:38,228 of only committing crimes that were plausibly deniable. 1299 01:07:38,315 --> 01:07:41,709 Creating this ambiguity, he was able to feed 1300 01:07:41,796 --> 01:07:46,062 into the apologists and the appeasers around the world 1301 01:07:46,149 --> 01:07:48,542 and give them enough ammunition to say 1302 01:07:48,629 --> 01:07:49,891 we don't know for sure whether-- 1303 01:07:49,978 --> 01:07:52,285 who shot down MH17. 1304 01:07:52,372 --> 01:07:54,766 We don't know for sure who killed 1305 01:07:54,853 --> 01:07:57,508 Alexander Litvinenko, even though everybody 1306 01:07:57,595 --> 01:07:59,205 knew for sure. 1307 01:07:59,292 --> 01:08:03,601 But in doing so, it allowed business to carry on. 1308 01:08:03,688 --> 01:08:06,343 narrator: And Bill Browder has had a personal reminder 1309 01:08:06,430 --> 01:08:09,302 from Vladimir Putin himself that the Russian ruler 1310 01:08:09,389 --> 01:08:11,783 never forgives or forgets. 1311 01:08:11,870 --> 01:08:14,394 - In early July 2018, 1312 01:08:14,481 --> 01:08:16,917 Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin met 1313 01:08:17,005 --> 01:08:20,183 in the first organized summit in Helsinki. 1314 01:08:20,270 --> 01:08:23,663 And it was just after the Robert Mueller investigation 1315 01:08:23,751 --> 01:08:27,625 had indicted 12 Russian GRU officers 1316 01:08:27,712 --> 01:08:29,582 for interfering in the U.S. elections, 1317 01:08:29,670 --> 01:08:32,804 and at the press conference, one of the journalists 1318 01:08:32,890 --> 01:08:34,675 raised his hand and asked Putin-- 1319 01:08:34,761 --> 01:08:36,328 - And will you consider extraditing 1320 01:08:36,416 --> 01:08:38,636 the 12 Russian officials that were indicted 1321 01:08:38,723 --> 01:08:40,725 last week by a U.S. grand jury? 1322 01:08:40,812 --> 01:08:43,684 - And Putin said yes. 1323 01:08:43,770 --> 01:08:45,295 - [speaking Russian] - Then we would expect 1324 01:08:45,381 --> 01:08:49,821 that the Americans would reciprocate Mr. Browder 1325 01:08:49,908 --> 01:08:52,519 in this particular case. 1326 01:08:52,606 --> 01:08:55,348 Business associates of Mr. Browder 1327 01:08:55,435 --> 01:09:00,439 have earned over $1.5 billion in Russia. 1328 01:09:00,527 --> 01:09:02,703 They never paid any taxes neither in Russia 1329 01:09:02,790 --> 01:09:04,270 nor in the United States. 1330 01:09:04,357 --> 01:09:07,621 - And then the question was asked 1331 01:09:07,707 --> 01:09:10,493 of Trump, what do you think? 1332 01:09:10,581 --> 01:09:11,886 - I think that's an incredible offer, okay? 1333 01:09:11,973 --> 01:09:12,886 - Thank you. 1334 01:09:16,152 --> 01:09:18,109 - Now, it's one thing for Putin to go after me. 1335 01:09:18,197 --> 01:09:19,676 He has been publicly naming me. 1336 01:09:19,764 --> 01:09:21,853 He's been chasing me with death threats, 1337 01:09:21,939 --> 01:09:24,986 kidnapping threats, arrest warrants. 1338 01:09:25,073 --> 01:09:27,250 And I'd grown used to that. 1339 01:09:27,337 --> 01:09:30,731 But to have the president of the United States, 1340 01:09:30,818 --> 01:09:33,343 the most powerful man in the free world, 1341 01:09:33,430 --> 01:09:35,345 ready to hand me over to Putin 1342 01:09:35,432 --> 01:09:40,567 to effectively be killed, that was a shock. 1343 01:09:40,654 --> 01:09:42,874 narrator: German Gorbuntsov, who survived 1344 01:09:42,961 --> 01:09:46,269 being gunned down, is another victim of the regime 1345 01:09:46,356 --> 01:09:48,836 still looking over his shoulder. 1346 01:09:48,923 --> 01:09:51,752 - [speaking Russian] 1347 01:10:03,155 --> 01:10:04,243 narrator: But Evgeny Chichvarkin 1348 01:10:04,330 --> 01:10:06,593 is decidedly not afraid. 1349 01:10:06,680 --> 01:10:09,335 In fact, he has spoken out in support 1350 01:10:09,422 --> 01:10:13,818 of Russia's jailed opposition leader Alexei Navalny. 1351 01:10:16,821 --> 01:10:18,779 - What's happened to him few times 1352 01:10:18,866 --> 01:10:20,868 is absolutely unacceptable. 1353 01:10:20,955 --> 01:10:25,873 It's a crime. 1354 01:10:25,960 --> 01:10:30,574 I think he have to be on election list, 1355 01:10:30,661 --> 01:10:32,402 and Putin have to be in the prison. 1356 01:10:34,578 --> 01:10:37,450 - Alexei Navalny is a friend. 1357 01:10:37,537 --> 01:10:39,713 And when he got poisoned, you know, 1358 01:10:39,800 --> 01:10:41,149 everyone was in shock. 1359 01:10:41,237 --> 01:10:43,717 But, you know, when someone you've-- 1360 01:10:43,804 --> 01:10:45,980 I don't know-- went for dinner with 1361 01:10:46,067 --> 01:10:51,899 is there unconscious, in coma, his wife absolutely distraught. 1362 01:10:51,986 --> 01:10:54,902 narrator: Tatiana knows the couple's support for Navalny 1363 01:10:54,989 --> 01:10:58,341 comes at a steep personal cost. 1364 01:10:58,428 --> 01:11:00,647 - I kept going back to Russia 1365 01:11:00,734 --> 01:11:03,346 up until autumn 2021. 1366 01:11:03,433 --> 01:11:04,869 People kept telling me, you're crazy. 1367 01:11:04,956 --> 01:11:06,566 This is crazy. Stop doing this. 1368 01:11:06,653 --> 01:11:08,960 And Evgeny was really worried. 1369 01:11:09,047 --> 01:11:11,049 And I used to take our daughter with me 1370 01:11:11,136 --> 01:11:12,790 because for me, it was very important for her 1371 01:11:12,877 --> 01:11:16,794 to see St. Petersburg to know what our heritage is. 1372 01:11:16,881 --> 01:11:18,578 These are normal things. 1373 01:11:18,665 --> 01:11:21,973 I should be able to do this with my daughter. 1374 01:11:22,060 --> 01:11:24,932 Going to Russia now would be suicide for me 1375 01:11:25,019 --> 01:11:27,935 because I will-- the plane will land, 1376 01:11:28,022 --> 01:11:30,721 and then they will just show me all the various things 1377 01:11:30,808 --> 01:11:32,462 I've said and say, 1378 01:11:32,549 --> 01:11:34,420 "According to the new law of Russian Federation, 1379 01:11:34,507 --> 01:11:36,161 "blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, 1380 01:11:36,248 --> 01:11:40,557 you are going to prison for 20 years." 1381 01:11:42,472 --> 01:11:44,778 narrator: Another brave voice, but this one still based 1382 01:11:44,865 --> 01:11:47,520 in Russia, is Ksenia Sobchak, 1383 01:11:47,607 --> 01:11:50,697 daughter of Putin's political mentor, 1384 01:11:50,784 --> 01:11:53,700 who today is carefully critical of the regime. 1385 01:11:56,007 --> 01:11:58,966 - Maybe I'm not in prison because, you know, 1386 01:11:59,053 --> 01:12:03,928 everyone knows that he had some links with my father. 1387 01:12:04,015 --> 01:12:07,279 I'm just trying to be not too much aggressive 1388 01:12:07,366 --> 01:12:08,976 because, of course, I'm afraid. 1389 01:12:09,063 --> 01:12:10,064 I have a son. 1390 01:12:10,151 --> 01:12:13,067 I don't want to go to prison. 1391 01:12:13,154 --> 01:12:14,852 narrator: Putin's war on Ukraine 1392 01:12:14,939 --> 01:12:18,377 has triggered punishing American and British sanctions 1393 01:12:18,464 --> 01:12:20,466 against his inner circle, 1394 01:12:20,553 --> 01:12:23,251 forcing some oligarchs to return home 1395 01:12:23,339 --> 01:12:26,254 or relocate to countries ready to welcome them-- 1396 01:12:26,342 --> 01:12:27,821 or at least their money. 1397 01:12:30,824 --> 01:12:33,087 - Yeah, okay, so we've just driven past, actually, 1398 01:12:33,174 --> 01:12:37,396 two houses that belonged to Abramovich's ex-wife, 1399 01:12:37,483 --> 01:12:40,268 and just by chance, I once went to look at them to rent them. 1400 01:12:40,356 --> 01:12:42,270 And actually, where we lived in Chelsea, 1401 01:12:42,358 --> 01:12:45,448 he and his third wife Dasha had bought another 1402 01:12:45,535 --> 01:12:47,493 massive property on the river. 1403 01:12:47,580 --> 01:12:49,277 And now we are approaching. 1404 01:12:49,365 --> 01:12:51,279 But I suppose this one was, like, 1405 01:12:51,367 --> 01:12:56,154 his gem in the crown in Kensington Palace Gardens, 1406 01:12:56,241 --> 01:12:58,330 which will be very near Kensington Palace. 1407 01:12:58,417 --> 01:13:00,593 I think it's worth 200 million. 1408 01:13:00,680 --> 01:13:01,986 But I suppose for the last few years, 1409 01:13:02,073 --> 01:13:03,422 he has not been able to spend any time here anyway 1410 01:13:03,509 --> 01:13:05,076 because he couldn't get a visa. 1411 01:13:05,163 --> 01:13:06,947 And now it's been sanctioned, 1412 01:13:07,034 --> 01:13:09,297 and he can't--cleaners can't even go in. 1413 01:13:09,385 --> 01:13:10,734 It can't be maintained. 1414 01:13:10,821 --> 01:13:12,257 It must be just standing completely empty. 1415 01:13:12,344 --> 01:13:19,264 ♪ ♪ 1416 01:13:20,744 --> 01:13:22,136 narrator: The sanctions have made 1417 01:13:22,223 --> 01:13:24,312 for a tricky moment of reckoning 1418 01:13:24,400 --> 01:13:28,142 for Russia's business and oligarch elite. 1419 01:13:28,229 --> 01:13:30,754 They must ask if their loyalty to Putin 1420 01:13:30,841 --> 01:13:34,105 is worth losing part or all of their fortunes. 1421 01:13:37,587 --> 01:13:39,676 And the stakes could not be higher. 1422 01:13:42,156 --> 01:13:45,812 Reports say that since January 2022, 1423 01:13:45,899 --> 01:13:49,294 as many as six prominent Russian businessmen 1424 01:13:49,381 --> 01:13:53,951 mysteriously decided to commit suicide, 1425 01:13:54,038 --> 01:13:57,171 even killing their families first. 1426 01:14:01,785 --> 01:14:03,482 - It looks to me like 1427 01:14:03,569 --> 01:14:06,920 since the sanctions were imposed on Russia, 1428 01:14:07,007 --> 01:14:09,096 the pie has shrunk. 1429 01:14:09,183 --> 01:14:11,098 And so now you have a bunch of people fighting over 1430 01:14:11,185 --> 01:14:13,013 a smaller amount of money. 1431 01:14:13,100 --> 01:14:16,321 And whenever there is limited resources 1432 01:14:16,408 --> 01:14:21,500 and very powerful people, 1433 01:14:21,587 --> 01:14:23,850 people start getting killed. 1434 01:14:23,937 --> 01:14:26,766 - [speaking Russian] 1435 01:14:57,188 --> 01:15:00,931 narrator: Tatiana believes what motivates Putin 1436 01:15:01,018 --> 01:15:04,543 is his almost mystical attachment to the notion 1437 01:15:04,630 --> 01:15:07,328 of eternal mother Russia. 1438 01:15:09,330 --> 01:15:12,377 - In Russia, there are so few things 1439 01:15:12,464 --> 01:15:15,075 that are left to be proud of, to be honest, 1440 01:15:15,162 --> 01:15:17,121 for everyday Russians. 1441 01:15:17,208 --> 01:15:22,343 And the sheer size of the country is one of them. 1442 01:15:22,430 --> 01:15:25,259 We live in the biggest country in the world. 1443 01:15:25,346 --> 01:15:27,435 The sheer size really, really matters, 1444 01:15:27,523 --> 01:15:29,350 and for Putin as well. 1445 01:15:29,437 --> 01:15:35,400 And I think at one point, he got himself convinced 1446 01:15:35,487 --> 01:15:37,445 that it is his mission. 1447 01:15:37,533 --> 01:15:42,059 He wants to go down in history as Vladimir, 1448 01:15:42,146 --> 01:15:48,282 the person who brought the Russian soils, 1449 01:15:48,369 --> 01:15:50,415 territories all together. 1450 01:15:50,502 --> 01:15:53,200 This is what he wants kids to learn 1451 01:15:53,287 --> 01:15:55,072 at school when he's gone. 1452 01:15:55,159 --> 01:15:58,118 - He has a mission. This is clear. 1453 01:15:58,205 --> 01:16:01,513 He is not about buying a golden palace. 1454 01:16:01,600 --> 01:16:05,648 He's about a mission of another world order. 1455 01:16:07,737 --> 01:16:11,305 narrator: For Alexandra, the Russia Putin craves 1456 01:16:11,392 --> 01:16:14,221 is a dark reminder of the world witnessed 1457 01:16:14,308 --> 01:16:17,529 by her ancestor, Leo Tolstoy. 1458 01:16:17,616 --> 01:16:19,313 - So I love this quote by Tolstoy, 1459 01:16:19,400 --> 01:16:22,708 but it's haunting, really. 1460 01:16:22,795 --> 01:16:25,798 Navalny quoted it recently I think from prison. 1461 01:16:28,279 --> 01:16:30,803 He wrote, "The villains who robbed the people 1462 01:16:30,890 --> 01:16:33,850 "gathered together, recruited soldiers and judges 1463 01:16:33,937 --> 01:16:36,896 to guard their orgy, and are feasting." 1464 01:16:36,983 --> 01:16:40,378 - People are very quick to judge the Russians 1465 01:16:40,465 --> 01:16:44,643 who still live in Russia and are not doing anything now. 1466 01:16:44,730 --> 01:16:51,084 I don't think any of us sitting here warm and fed 1467 01:16:51,171 --> 01:16:55,523 have the moral right to say, "You need to speak up," 1468 01:16:55,611 --> 01:16:57,613 because the minute they speak up, 1469 01:16:57,700 --> 01:16:59,310 they get put into Russian prison. 1470 01:17:01,442 --> 01:17:03,444 - In Putin's mentality, 1471 01:17:03,531 --> 01:17:07,318 that all people around him enemies, 1472 01:17:07,405 --> 01:17:11,191 all countries around Russia enemies. 1473 01:17:11,278 --> 01:17:17,284 And he's poor little guy in the circle 1474 01:17:17,371 --> 01:17:20,157 of many circles of enemies. 1475 01:17:20,244 --> 01:17:22,681 It's a big psychiatry problem. 1476 01:17:22,768 --> 01:17:24,727 - I think Putin is ill, 1477 01:17:24,814 --> 01:17:27,120 but not in the way that most people think Putin is ill. 1478 01:17:27,207 --> 01:17:29,122 Putin is mentally ill. 1479 01:17:29,209 --> 01:17:32,386 But he's been mentally ill as a psychopath since, 1480 01:17:32,473 --> 01:17:35,041 you know, childhood. 1481 01:17:35,128 --> 01:17:38,784 Putin's illness leads him to lack any empathy, 1482 01:17:38,871 --> 01:17:40,699 lack any--a conscience, 1483 01:17:40,786 --> 01:17:44,703 lack any normal human emotion when it comes 1484 01:17:44,790 --> 01:17:46,705 to the fate of other people. 1485 01:17:46,792 --> 01:17:50,361 And that will lead him to all sorts of terrible crimes. 1486 01:17:52,755 --> 01:17:54,670 - There are rumors that he is ill. 1487 01:17:54,757 --> 01:17:57,020 And if those rumors-- 1488 01:17:57,107 --> 01:17:59,239 and I think they're likely to be true. 1489 01:17:59,326 --> 01:18:02,242 And if they are true, that is-- 1490 01:18:02,329 --> 01:18:04,375 for me, that makes me really frightened 1491 01:18:04,462 --> 01:18:08,379 because a person who is really ill 1492 01:18:08,466 --> 01:18:11,556 doesn't really care about what happens next. 1493 01:18:11,643 --> 01:18:14,559 [somber music] 1494 01:18:14,646 --> 01:18:21,871 ♪ ♪ 1495 01:18:21,958 --> 01:18:25,788 When he got away with starting the conflict in the Ukraine, 1496 01:18:25,875 --> 01:18:27,006 that set a precedent. 1497 01:18:28,704 --> 01:18:32,446 And unfortunately, we're living the consequences. 1498 01:18:32,533 --> 01:18:35,536 [rumbling] 1499 01:18:35,623 --> 01:18:41,717 ♪ ♪ 1500 01:18:41,804 --> 01:18:46,809 Having the Ukraine that was really desperate 1501 01:18:46,896 --> 01:18:50,508 to be part of Europe, go its own way, 1502 01:18:50,595 --> 01:18:52,989 be more democratic, be more prosperous, 1503 01:18:53,076 --> 01:18:55,034 not depend on Russia-- 1504 01:18:55,121 --> 01:18:57,733 he just could not let it happen. 1505 01:18:57,820 --> 01:19:00,648 The propaganda is still telling people in Russia 1506 01:19:00,736 --> 01:19:06,654 that Ukraine wants to be a part of Russia. 1507 01:19:06,742 --> 01:19:09,483 - He looks much, much more angry, I would say. 1508 01:19:09,570 --> 01:19:11,529 He looks really unpredictable now. 1509 01:19:11,616 --> 01:19:13,836 And he's been in power far too long. 1510 01:19:13,923 --> 01:19:16,708 He's gone--it's just completely gone to his head. 1511 01:19:16,795 --> 01:19:20,843 - Like a cancer, it's getting worse and worse. 1512 01:19:20,930 --> 01:19:24,629 Less and less freedom, more and more paranoia. 1513 01:19:24,716 --> 01:19:28,241 We are halfway to North Korea. 1514 01:19:28,328 --> 01:19:30,591 - I don't think that Putin is ever gonna back down 1515 01:19:30,678 --> 01:19:32,506 because he can't. 1516 01:19:32,593 --> 01:19:34,508 And I don't think the Ukrainians are gonna 1517 01:19:34,595 --> 01:19:36,336 allow Russia to take their territory 1518 01:19:36,423 --> 01:19:38,077 because how can they justify that 1519 01:19:38,164 --> 01:19:41,080 after the atrocities committed? 1520 01:19:41,167 --> 01:19:43,648 And so I imagine that this is going to be an ongoing war. 1521 01:19:45,911 --> 01:19:48,000 - Every day, I'm thinking about this. 1522 01:19:48,087 --> 01:19:49,523 It goes circles and circles. 1523 01:19:49,610 --> 01:19:53,005 I see no positive ending. 1524 01:19:53,092 --> 01:19:56,008 Families are ruined. People are killed. 1525 01:19:56,095 --> 01:19:59,055 There will be no forgiveness in any way. 1526 01:19:59,142 --> 01:20:04,843 It will be a point of hatred for years and years. 1527 01:20:04,930 --> 01:20:11,719 ♪ ♪ 1528 01:20:11,807 --> 01:20:17,334 - What we all feel is shame. 1529 01:20:17,421 --> 01:20:20,598 He is a tyrant. 1530 01:20:20,685 --> 01:20:23,862 But still, we are human. 1531 01:20:23,949 --> 01:20:30,390 And this is why we feel profound guilt 1532 01:20:30,477 --> 01:20:33,524 for something we did not commit 1533 01:20:33,611 --> 01:20:36,048 and we were not a part of. 1534 01:20:36,135 --> 01:20:43,186 ♪ ♪ 1535 01:20:44,143 --> 01:20:47,451 I want to still be proud to be Russian. 1536 01:20:47,538 --> 01:20:52,108 But at this moment in time, it's impossible. 1537 01:20:54,850 --> 01:20:59,811 When we wake up, and we look at the news on our phones, 1538 01:20:59,898 --> 01:21:03,032 we just want to see one news-- 1539 01:21:03,119 --> 01:21:05,948 that he's not--no longer 1540 01:21:06,035 --> 01:21:08,211 at least the president of Russia. 1541 01:21:08,298 --> 01:21:15,131 ♪ ♪ 113046

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