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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:04,533 --> 00:00:06,473 and may contain mature subject matter. 2 00:00:06,467 --> 00:00:14,567 Viewer discretion is advised. 3 00:00:14,700 --> 00:00:17,830 William Shatner: You know, I've been around for a while. 4 00:00:17,967 --> 00:00:22,627 I've met some interesting people, done some crazy things. 5 00:00:22,767 --> 00:00:25,497 So you'd think that there wasn't much that could 6 00:00:25,633 --> 00:00:31,673 take me by surprise. 7 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:37,870 You'd be wrong. 8 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:41,500 The world is full of stories and science and 9 00:00:41,633 --> 00:00:44,003 things that amaze and confound me every single 10 00:00:44,133 --> 00:00:47,673 day, incredible mysteries that keep me awake at night. 11 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:48,900 Some I can answer. 12 00:00:49,033 --> 00:00:53,503 And others just defy logic. 13 00:00:53,633 --> 00:00:56,873 Shatner: Is someone - or something - controlling 14 00:00:57,000 --> 00:00:59,700 our minds - remotely? 15 00:00:59,834 --> 00:01:04,904 In Colorado, a man finds a mysterious object in his body. 16 00:01:05,033 --> 00:01:06,603 TIM CULLEN: It probably had to be 17 00:01:06,734 --> 00:01:09,474 extraterrestrial in nature. 18 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:11,000 Shatner: Are the brains of humans being monitored 19 00:01:11,133 --> 00:01:15,503 from outer space? 20 00:01:15,633 --> 00:01:17,803 In St Louis, a séance turns a housewife 21 00:01:17,934 --> 00:01:20,674 into a literary genius. 22 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:22,430 JAN VANDERSANDE: She dictated 7 books, 23 00:01:22,567 --> 00:01:26,897 thousands of poems, short stories, it's incredible. 24 00:01:27,033 --> 00:01:30,973 Shatner: Can the dead take over the minds of the living? 25 00:01:31,100 --> 00:01:33,330 And in California, a woman causes machines - 26 00:01:33,467 --> 00:01:36,567 and people - to go haywire. 27 00:01:36,700 --> 00:01:37,970 CHERYL WELSH: Electrical equipment didn't work 28 00:01:38,100 --> 00:01:41,470 anymore, my computer, my tv. 29 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:46,030 Shatner: Is her mind being remotely controlled 30 00:01:46,166 --> 00:01:47,426 - by the government? 31 00:01:47,567 --> 00:01:48,767 William Shatner: Yeah, it's a weird world. 32 00:01:48,900 --> 00:01:50,230 And I love it. 33 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:10,400 William Shatner: Frightening isn't it. 34 00:02:10,533 --> 00:02:12,403 This is an actual x-ray of construction worker 35 00:02:12,533 --> 00:02:14,573 Patrick Lawler - he went to the dentist complaining 36 00:02:14,700 --> 00:02:16,830 of a toothache - instead he found a four inch nail 37 00:02:16,967 --> 00:02:20,697 embedded in his skull from his nail gun. 38 00:02:20,834 --> 00:02:25,874 It's amazing what you can find inside people... 39 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:31,470 Here's another - a cell phone hidden inside an inmate. 40 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:35,200 How did he get my phone number? 41 00:02:35,333 --> 00:02:37,873 And this one - a man who accidentally swallowed 42 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:44,300 some scissors while using them as a toothpick. 43 00:02:44,433 --> 00:02:47,003 And oh, here's one of mine. 44 00:02:47,133 --> 00:02:48,933 Well. Never mind. 45 00:02:49,066 --> 00:02:51,396 Despite being bizarre - all of these things are 46 00:02:51,533 --> 00:02:55,333 easily explainable - except this one. 47 00:02:55,467 --> 00:02:58,227 This... was found inside another man - a man who has no 48 00:02:58,367 --> 00:03:01,227 idea what it is - or how it got there - 49 00:03:01,367 --> 00:03:08,597 or even if it came from Earth. 50 00:03:08,734 --> 00:03:12,404 Shatner: Yuma County, Colorado. 1998. 51 00:03:12,533 --> 00:03:15,003 Cement contractor Tim Cullen is on a routine job 52 00:03:15,133 --> 00:03:17,303 when he suffers an injury. 53 00:03:17,433 --> 00:03:18,573 TIM CULLEN: I was doing some work for a farmer 54 00:03:18,700 --> 00:03:21,530 earlier in the summertime and I'd hit my thumb with 55 00:03:21,667 --> 00:03:25,567 a hammer, belted it pretty good. 56 00:03:25,700 --> 00:03:28,130 My wife, she's a nurse, she said well you might as 57 00:03:28,266 --> 00:03:32,326 well go, why don't you go to the doctor and get it looked at. 58 00:03:32,467 --> 00:03:34,827 Shatner: Tim's thumb turns out to be fine. 59 00:03:34,967 --> 00:03:37,367 But the doctor who examines him finds 60 00:03:37,500 --> 00:03:39,230 something else. 61 00:03:39,367 --> 00:03:42,227 Something he can't explain. 62 00:03:42,367 --> 00:03:44,367 TIM CULLEN: The doctor took an x-ray and he said, 63 00:03:44,500 --> 00:03:46,330 uh, you know, you have something in your arm? 64 00:03:46,467 --> 00:03:48,797 And I said, no. 65 00:03:48,934 --> 00:03:51,504 He said, you got any idea where it come from? 66 00:03:51,633 --> 00:03:53,373 Shatner: Tim is baffled by the news. 67 00:03:53,500 --> 00:03:55,500 TIM CULLEN: The object in the x-ray is a kind of 68 00:03:55,633 --> 00:04:00,533 bright triangle in, in the x-ray, real bright, right, 69 00:04:00,667 --> 00:04:03,327 right next to my wrist bone. 70 00:04:03,467 --> 00:04:05,527 It was kind of interesting to know that something got 71 00:04:05,667 --> 00:04:09,627 in my body, I really didn't know anything about it. 72 00:04:09,767 --> 00:04:11,567 Shatner: The doctor decides to operate. 73 00:04:11,700 --> 00:04:16,100 But during the surgery, something extraordinary happens. 74 00:04:16,233 --> 00:04:18,173 TIM CULLEN: They were doing the, the surgery and 75 00:04:18,300 --> 00:04:20,330 I got to watch it on a scope. 76 00:04:20,467 --> 00:04:22,697 As the doctor got ready to remove the object, when he 77 00:04:22,834 --> 00:04:24,974 got close to it, it seemed to move away from the 78 00:04:25,100 --> 00:04:28,200 forceps that he was going to remove the objects with. 79 00:04:28,333 --> 00:04:32,133 Like the object sensed that it was going to be removed. 80 00:04:32,266 --> 00:04:34,826 They finally got a hold of it and they, that's when 81 00:04:34,967 --> 00:04:36,627 my arm really got to hurting, they got it drawn 82 00:04:36,767 --> 00:04:40,127 up near the surface and, uh, put the snip on 83 00:04:40,266 --> 00:04:42,226 it and took it loose. 84 00:04:42,367 --> 00:04:45,867 Shatner: As the doctor examines the object - 85 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:48,270 he realizes why it reacted strangely. 86 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:51,530 Inside a membrane is a core of metal. 87 00:04:51,667 --> 00:04:54,067 There are also "proprioceptors" - 88 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:56,370 wire-like appendages that seem to be connected to 89 00:04:56,500 --> 00:04:58,900 nerve endings leading to his hand. 90 00:04:59,033 --> 00:05:02,573 TIM CULLEN: There was no anti-rejection structures 91 00:05:02,700 --> 00:05:03,700 around the whole object at all, the body doesn't even 92 00:05:03,834 --> 00:05:05,204 know it's there. 93 00:05:05,333 --> 00:05:06,633 I mean, it's metal and nothing more foreign to 94 00:05:06,767 --> 00:05:08,027 the body than metal. 95 00:05:08,166 --> 00:05:10,266 Shatner: At first, Tim makes a steady recovery. 96 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:13,630 But his health suddenly begins to decline. 97 00:05:13,767 --> 00:05:16,997 TIM CULLEN: My mental ability started sliding downhill. 98 00:05:17,133 --> 00:05:19,333 My ability to concentrate and to stay awake, went 99 00:05:19,467 --> 00:05:21,467 downhill really rapidly. 100 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:23,700 It's just like it's, I dropped my will. 101 00:05:23,834 --> 00:05:26,134 I feel like instead of being a 60 year old man, 102 00:05:26,266 --> 00:05:30,726 I have to take a nap like an 80, 85 year old man. 103 00:05:30,867 --> 00:05:32,827 Shatner: Certain his health issues are 104 00:05:32,967 --> 00:05:38,267 connected to the object, Tim searches his memory for clues. 105 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:41,130 Then it hits him - a mysterious incident 106 00:05:41,266 --> 00:05:44,196 20 years earlier that made no sense at all. 107 00:05:44,333 --> 00:05:45,803 Until now. 108 00:05:45,934 --> 00:05:47,434 TIM CULLEN: We were coming back one night, in the 109 00:05:47,567 --> 00:05:52,627 evening, late night, probably 11:00 o'clock or so. 110 00:05:52,767 --> 00:05:54,027 Coming up Highway 59 and we encountered 111 00:05:54,166 --> 00:05:59,666 this craft in front of us. 112 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:01,170 Looked like it was about 100 foot long, 113 00:06:01,300 --> 00:06:03,200 it looked like a cigar. 114 00:06:03,333 --> 00:06:04,933 There were some lights on it. 115 00:06:05,066 --> 00:06:06,796 Shatner: Tim stops for a better view. 116 00:06:06,934 --> 00:06:10,474 Whatever it is moves like nothing on earth. 117 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:12,270 TIM CULLEN: It crossed the road, it crossed over the 118 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:13,930 fence and under the telephone lines and the 119 00:06:14,066 --> 00:06:15,296 next thing you know, Bingo - it's kind of by the car, 120 00:06:15,433 --> 00:06:18,773 and then it's back up here. 121 00:06:18,900 --> 00:06:21,070 My wife and I sat there and two lights came on. 122 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:22,700 They're really bright could like see my 123 00:06:22,834 --> 00:06:25,504 peripheral vision was kind of gone. 124 00:06:25,633 --> 00:06:29,203 Shatner: Time seems to stand still for Tim and his wife. 125 00:06:29,333 --> 00:06:31,033 TIM CULLEN: After the lights came on, and my 126 00:06:31,166 --> 00:06:34,126 wife and I were sitting there in the car for what 127 00:06:34,266 --> 00:06:39,266 I perceive as four or five minutes. 128 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:43,830 It was a mind-bending experience for me at the time. 129 00:06:43,967 --> 00:06:45,567 We sat there wondering what to do, you know, 130 00:06:45,700 --> 00:06:47,000 thinking about it, and then I looked at 131 00:06:47,133 --> 00:06:49,703 the wife and said, let's go. 132 00:06:49,834 --> 00:06:51,674 Shatner: When they arrive home, they discover 133 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:57,830 they've been gone - not for minutes, but hours. 134 00:06:57,967 --> 00:07:00,327 Tim can't account for the lost time. 135 00:07:00,467 --> 00:07:02,627 TIM CULLEN: There was lots of things that may have 136 00:07:02,767 --> 00:07:04,867 happened, you know, I don't know, but missing 137 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:07,930 time, I don't get to remember it. 138 00:07:08,066 --> 00:07:11,496 It does make it interesting for me. 139 00:07:11,633 --> 00:07:16,603 Shatner: There is one thing Tim is sure of. 140 00:07:16,734 --> 00:07:19,434 He was taken on board an alien spaceship and 141 00:07:19,567 --> 00:07:22,367 implanted with the metal object. 142 00:07:22,500 --> 00:07:24,100 Shatner: Why? 143 00:07:24,233 --> 00:07:27,233 TIM CULLEN: The aliens want to interfere with my 144 00:07:27,367 --> 00:07:29,567 thoughts processes for some reason. 145 00:07:29,700 --> 00:07:32,530 It's a form of mind control. 146 00:07:32,667 --> 00:07:36,597 You know, we're not the only intelligent mortal 147 00:07:36,734 --> 00:07:38,334 life form in this universe. 148 00:07:38,467 --> 00:07:39,997 It makes me wonder why, why me? 149 00:07:40,133 --> 00:07:43,273 And I truly do. 150 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:48,700 Uh, I'll never get over it. 151 00:07:48,834 --> 00:07:52,274 William Shatner: This is Weird - or What. 152 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:54,670 A guy doing some simple DIY ends up finding this 153 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:57,030 thing inside him. 154 00:07:57,166 --> 00:07:58,566 Can Tim Cullen be right? 155 00:07:58,700 --> 00:08:02,200 Was this device created by an extra terrestrial then 156 00:08:02,333 --> 00:08:04,633 implanted in his arm during an alien abduction 157 00:08:04,767 --> 00:08:07,997 and used somehow to control his mind? 158 00:08:08,133 --> 00:08:09,733 It's an incredible concept, isn't it? 159 00:08:09,867 --> 00:08:12,697 But I have an even more important question - when 160 00:08:12,834 --> 00:08:18,504 will they be on sale at Radio Shack? 161 00:08:18,633 --> 00:08:20,673 Shatner: What happened to Tim Cullen? 162 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:23,500 Did an alien life form implant a device inside 163 00:08:23,633 --> 00:08:26,603 him to control his mind? 164 00:08:26,734 --> 00:08:28,574 Ex-police officer Derrel Sims is known as 165 00:08:28,700 --> 00:08:30,730 the Alien Hunter. 166 00:08:30,867 --> 00:08:32,697 He counsels people who claim they've been 167 00:08:32,834 --> 00:08:35,304 abducted by extraterrestrials. 168 00:08:35,433 --> 00:08:38,033 DERREL SIMS: Our abductees range from everything from 169 00:08:38,166 --> 00:08:40,526 housewives, to husbands to - they're hard working 170 00:08:40,667 --> 00:08:43,127 people, we've got three NASA scientists that are 171 00:08:43,266 --> 00:08:46,166 abductees, one of them with implants. 172 00:08:46,300 --> 00:08:48,900 Shatner: He's convinced Tim's UFO experience was 173 00:08:49,033 --> 00:08:52,373 not only real - it wasn't his first. 174 00:08:52,500 --> 00:08:54,370 DERREL SIMS: He's a typical individual that 175 00:08:54,500 --> 00:08:56,430 had no clue what was going on, I suspect his events 176 00:08:56,567 --> 00:08:58,497 started much younger on in his life, many people who 177 00:08:58,633 --> 00:09:01,373 find out they're an abductee later in life 178 00:09:01,500 --> 00:09:03,970 don't realize that they've had events long before, 179 00:09:04,100 --> 00:09:05,500 most of the time. 180 00:09:05,633 --> 00:09:09,503 Shatner: But why did Tim have no memory of what happened? 181 00:09:09,633 --> 00:09:11,233 DERREL SIMS: Once the encounter takes place they 182 00:09:11,367 --> 00:09:13,627 leave on the individual what is called a screen 183 00:09:13,767 --> 00:09:17,897 memory, this is often the true false memory syndrome. 184 00:09:18,033 --> 00:09:20,773 They leave an imagery and thoughts and feelings with you. 185 00:09:20,900 --> 00:09:23,270 The majority of them are not pleasant experiences. 186 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:25,170 Shatner: Despite this, Tim knew something 187 00:09:25,300 --> 00:09:30,500 inexplicable was happening to his body - and his mind. 188 00:09:30,633 --> 00:09:33,273 TIM CULLEN: For the first 20 years, when I had the 189 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:36,700 implant in my body I believe I was smarter, 190 00:09:36,834 --> 00:09:39,774 my mental function was greatly enhanced. 191 00:09:39,900 --> 00:09:42,500 I believe the implant was there to, uh, uh, 192 00:09:42,633 --> 00:09:44,933 mentally stimulate me. 193 00:09:45,066 --> 00:09:46,966 Shatner: The implant was affecting his 194 00:09:47,100 --> 00:09:48,500 neurotransmitters - chemicals that regulate 195 00:09:48,633 --> 00:09:52,333 mood, behavior and other critical functions in the brain. 196 00:09:52,467 --> 00:09:53,597 DERREL SIMS: Abductees often feel why am I having 197 00:09:53,734 --> 00:09:56,004 these feelings. 198 00:09:56,133 --> 00:09:58,033 Their levels of serotonin and dopamine are being 199 00:09:58,166 --> 00:10:00,996 altered as one psychologist told me, says 200 00:10:01,133 --> 00:10:02,933 anyone that can do that to you, I don't care who that 201 00:10:03,066 --> 00:10:05,296 is, they own you. 202 00:10:05,433 --> 00:10:08,333 They own your emotions, they own everything about you. 203 00:10:08,467 --> 00:10:09,827 Shatner: Sims says implants don't just change 204 00:10:09,967 --> 00:10:12,527 the way the brain works - they actually record 205 00:10:12,667 --> 00:10:15,367 what it's doing. 206 00:10:15,500 --> 00:10:17,030 DERREL SIMS: They're there to do a job and one of the 207 00:10:17,166 --> 00:10:19,466 things they're to do is to collect huge amounts of 208 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:21,670 information particularly emotions, enormous amounts 209 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:25,170 of emotions, s huge wide variety and span of 210 00:10:25,300 --> 00:10:29,130 emotions and to collect them and to bring them back. 211 00:10:29,266 --> 00:10:31,226 Shatner: But why would aliens implant these 212 00:10:31,367 --> 00:10:33,627 devices in humans? 213 00:10:33,767 --> 00:10:35,567 DERREL SIMS: That's the sixty-four thousand 214 00:10:35,700 --> 00:10:37,570 dollar question. 215 00:10:37,700 --> 00:10:38,970 Everybody's focusing on the wrong thing, that's 216 00:10:39,100 --> 00:10:40,570 what bothers me. 217 00:10:40,700 --> 00:10:42,830 I come from an intelligence background, 218 00:10:42,967 --> 00:10:44,567 the whole thing is an intelligence problem, 219 00:10:44,700 --> 00:10:46,500 it always has been. 220 00:10:46,633 --> 00:10:50,103 Shatner: Did aliens try to control Timothy Cullen? 221 00:10:50,233 --> 00:10:53,433 Or is the true explanation more down to earth? 222 00:10:53,567 --> 00:10:55,297 MICHAEL SHERMER: NASA knows where every bolt is 223 00:10:55,433 --> 00:10:57,603 floating around up there. 224 00:11:06,500 --> 00:11:09,830 Shatner: A mysterious object is found in a man's arm. 225 00:11:09,967 --> 00:11:11,767 Was it inserted by extra-terrestrials in 226 00:11:11,900 --> 00:11:14,370 order to control him? 227 00:11:14,500 --> 00:11:18,200 Dr. Michael Shermer is the publisher of Skeptic magazine. 228 00:11:18,333 --> 00:11:22,173 He's spent 30 years investigating alien stories. 229 00:11:22,300 --> 00:11:23,200 MICHAEL SHERMER: The Tim Cullen story has been 230 00:11:23,333 --> 00:11:25,433 around for a long time in UFO lore. 231 00:11:25,567 --> 00:11:28,297 You hear about these implants with alleged 232 00:11:28,433 --> 00:11:29,903 micro circuitry and things like that. 233 00:11:30,033 --> 00:11:31,173 I've never seen one. 234 00:11:31,300 --> 00:11:33,530 I've never seen a published article about this. 235 00:11:33,667 --> 00:11:35,267 I've never heard of a scientist examining 236 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:36,630 anything like that. 237 00:11:36,767 --> 00:11:37,997 Of all the implants that have been tested that I've 238 00:11:38,133 --> 00:11:40,403 seen, rigorously tested, they've all concluded that 239 00:11:40,533 --> 00:11:43,333 these were natural earth bound artifacts - 240 00:11:43,467 --> 00:11:47,997 shrapnel, piece of metal, splinter, that kind of thing. 241 00:11:48,133 --> 00:11:51,173 Uh, not any kind of extraterrestrial. 242 00:11:51,300 --> 00:11:54,430 Shatner: Dr. Shermer has studied video of Tim's surgery. 243 00:11:54,567 --> 00:11:55,727 He saw nothing to suggest the object 244 00:11:55,867 --> 00:11:57,967 was controlling his brain. 245 00:11:58,100 --> 00:11:59,500 MICHAEL SHERMER: Seeing the video of the surgeon 246 00:11:59,633 --> 00:12:02,403 removing it, it didn't look like that at all to me. 247 00:12:02,533 --> 00:12:04,573 It looked like it was actually quite loose in 248 00:12:04,700 --> 00:12:06,470 there because as he was poking the tongues in 249 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:08,230 there to grab it, it was moving around. 250 00:12:08,367 --> 00:12:10,667 It didn't look connected to any nerves at all. 251 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:12,500 Shatner: But what about the strange membrane 252 00:12:12,633 --> 00:12:14,503 the doctor found? 253 00:12:14,633 --> 00:12:16,003 MICHAEL SHERMER: We do know that something that's 254 00:12:16,133 --> 00:12:17,103 been in the body for a long time gets coated by the body. 255 00:12:17,233 --> 00:12:18,903 It's a way of protecting itself. 256 00:12:19,033 --> 00:12:21,903 That may look metal when you see it but it's just 257 00:12:22,033 --> 00:12:24,203 actually some other organic material. 258 00:12:24,333 --> 00:12:26,533 And I suspect that's all it is. 259 00:12:26,667 --> 00:12:29,397 Shatner: Was Tim making it all up? 260 00:12:29,533 --> 00:12:31,003 Not necessarily. 261 00:12:31,133 --> 00:12:33,973 Dr. Shermer is sure Tim had some kind of traumatic 262 00:12:34,100 --> 00:12:37,600 experience - but pop culture made him 263 00:12:37,734 --> 00:12:39,734 blame it on ET's. 264 00:12:39,867 --> 00:12:40,827 MICHAEL SHERMER: In the middle ages the narratives 265 00:12:40,967 --> 00:12:42,897 talk about demons 'cause they lived in 266 00:12:43,033 --> 00:12:44,833 a demon haunted world. 267 00:12:44,967 --> 00:12:46,227 Two hundred years ago, a hundred and fifty years 268 00:12:46,367 --> 00:12:48,367 ago, these were poltergeists and ghosts 269 00:12:48,500 --> 00:12:50,130 'cause that's the world they lived in. 270 00:12:50,266 --> 00:12:52,896 Our century? Aliens. 271 00:12:53,033 --> 00:12:54,873 So our anomalous psychological experiences 272 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:57,930 are interpreted through that filter. 273 00:12:58,066 --> 00:13:00,426 Shatner: Colin Ross is a psychiatrist specializing 274 00:13:00,567 --> 00:13:03,167 in severe mental trauma. 275 00:13:03,300 --> 00:13:04,770 He agrees something was trying to control 276 00:13:04,900 --> 00:13:08,100 Tim Cullen - but it wasn't aliens. 277 00:13:08,233 --> 00:13:09,373 COLIN ROSS: I get contacted quite regularly 278 00:13:09,500 --> 00:13:12,930 by email and mail, by people who absolutely 279 00:13:13,066 --> 00:13:15,466 firmly believe that they're being monitored 280 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:17,900 and controlled remotely by the CIA, the military or 281 00:13:18,033 --> 00:13:19,903 the government. 282 00:13:20,033 --> 00:13:22,303 They'll describe how they were involved in the 283 00:13:22,433 --> 00:13:24,203 military, how they had a security clearance, they 284 00:13:24,333 --> 00:13:27,903 got in some sort of beef with some other person and 285 00:13:28,033 --> 00:13:29,803 then it all started. 286 00:13:29,934 --> 00:13:31,174 Shatner: But how could the government control 287 00:13:31,300 --> 00:13:33,300 someone's brain? 288 00:13:33,433 --> 00:13:35,133 COLIN ROSS: It's a known fact that from the 289 00:13:35,266 --> 00:13:37,326 documents and this is going back 40, 50 years 290 00:13:37,467 --> 00:13:39,397 now, that you can control somebody's behaviour 291 00:13:39,533 --> 00:13:42,933 remotely by activating an electrode that's in their brain. 292 00:13:43,066 --> 00:13:46,696 It's not a conspiracy theory, it's a medical proven fact. 293 00:13:46,834 --> 00:13:48,434 Shatner: Dr. Ross says the origins of mind-control 294 00:13:48,567 --> 00:13:50,827 technology began from a desire to tap the skills 295 00:13:50,967 --> 00:13:54,097 of German scientists smuggled into the US after 296 00:13:54,233 --> 00:13:56,303 World War II. 297 00:13:56,433 --> 00:13:57,633 COLIN ROSS: Operation Paper Clip is one of a 298 00:13:57,767 --> 00:14:00,627 series of projects that was created by the CIA, 299 00:14:00,767 --> 00:14:02,597 uh, after the second World War, it was to get control 300 00:14:02,734 --> 00:14:06,104 of the German scientists. 301 00:14:06,233 --> 00:14:08,073 So the US government wanted to bring a lot of 302 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:12,630 expertise over to the United States, rocket 303 00:14:12,767 --> 00:14:15,267 engineers, ball bearing manufacturers, film, 304 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:18,100 whatever it might be and brought them into the 305 00:14:18,233 --> 00:14:21,873 United States for use in research. 306 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:23,600 Shatner: One of them, Dr. Wernher Von Braun, 307 00:14:23,734 --> 00:14:27,104 helped the Americans take the lead in the space race. 308 00:14:27,233 --> 00:14:28,873 Did another German scientist give the US the 309 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:31,030 edge in mind control? 310 00:14:31,166 --> 00:14:33,566 Dr. Ross thinks so - and that the US is still using 311 00:14:33,700 --> 00:14:35,800 the technology. 312 00:14:35,934 --> 00:14:37,274 COLIN ROSS: I'm quite confident that there must 313 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:40,930 be military and CIA implanted chips in people 314 00:14:41,066 --> 00:14:43,796 around the world, for various purposes. 315 00:14:43,934 --> 00:14:46,304 Shatner: But why would the US government want to 316 00:14:46,433 --> 00:14:48,303 control people's minds? 317 00:14:48,433 --> 00:14:52,173 Simple - to achieve global domination by turning 318 00:14:52,300 --> 00:14:55,570 ordinary people into fearless assassins, 319 00:14:55,700 --> 00:14:57,800 activated by remote control. 320 00:14:57,934 --> 00:14:59,674 COLIN ROSS: The way you control behaviour is kind 321 00:14:59,800 --> 00:15:01,800 of two fold, the electrode can actually activate part 322 00:15:01,934 --> 00:15:04,974 of your brain, or you can hypnotically 323 00:15:05,100 --> 00:15:07,330 condition a person. 324 00:15:07,467 --> 00:15:09,527 So the idea is you condition the person to 325 00:15:09,667 --> 00:15:11,527 have this new identity inside, who's hidden 326 00:15:11,667 --> 00:15:14,627 behind an amnesia barrier, you call them out with a 327 00:15:14,767 --> 00:15:17,127 hypnotic code, give them the assignment, they go 328 00:15:17,266 --> 00:15:20,166 back inside, they carry out the assignment. 329 00:15:20,300 --> 00:15:22,830 If the out front person is captured and interrogated, 330 00:15:22,967 --> 00:15:26,497 has no information, no memory of it whatsoever. 331 00:15:26,633 --> 00:15:28,033 Shatner: Was Timothy Cullen being groomed as a 332 00:15:28,166 --> 00:15:30,726 covert government assassin? 333 00:15:30,867 --> 00:15:34,127 Are aliens trying to control his brain? 334 00:15:34,266 --> 00:15:36,926 Or did he just imagine the whole thing? 335 00:15:37,066 --> 00:15:42,026 Whatever the truth, it's Weird or What. 336 00:15:56,000 --> 00:15:57,630 Shatner: A séance turns a housewife into 337 00:15:57,767 --> 00:15:59,827 a literary genius. 338 00:15:59,967 --> 00:16:01,497 JAN VANDERSANDE: She only has an 8th grade 339 00:16:01,633 --> 00:16:02,703 education, which is quite amazing. 340 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:19,330 William Shatner: Hi, I'm just trying to 341 00:16:19,467 --> 00:16:24,497 contact the spirits. 342 00:16:24,633 --> 00:16:33,503 I'll be with you in a moment. 343 00:16:33,633 --> 00:16:36,003 l... 344 00:16:36,133 --> 00:16:41,503 WTF LOL ...means nothing to me. 345 00:16:41,633 --> 00:16:45,003 But do Ouija boards really work? 346 00:16:45,133 --> 00:16:47,103 Millions think so. 347 00:16:47,233 --> 00:16:48,833 It was invented as a harmless parlour game over 348 00:16:48,967 --> 00:16:50,427 a century ago. 349 00:16:50,567 --> 00:16:52,497 Since then it's become a tool regarded by many as 350 00:16:52,633 --> 00:16:57,103 the only genuine way we can communicate with the dead. 351 00:16:57,233 --> 00:16:59,973 Well, they're dead wrong. 352 00:17:00,166 --> 00:17:03,666 There's another way - and it won't just give you a 353 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:07,570 few random letters - but enough to fill entire libraries. 354 00:17:07,700 --> 00:17:13,030 All you need is your mind. 355 00:17:13,166 --> 00:17:15,026 Shatner: July 8th, 1913. 356 00:17:15,166 --> 00:17:17,896 St Louis, Missouri. 357 00:17:18,033 --> 00:17:19,673 At the height of the progessive era, the 358 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:21,500 suffrage movement is working to bring women the 359 00:17:21,633 --> 00:17:26,833 vote and unshackle them from traditional roles. 360 00:17:26,967 --> 00:17:29,127 One of the newly liberated women is housewife 361 00:17:29,266 --> 00:17:31,426 Pearl Lenore Curran, who is enjoying a visit 362 00:17:31,567 --> 00:17:33,267 from her neighbour. 363 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:34,770 JAN VANDERSANDE: Pearl Curran was born in 1883, 364 00:17:34,900 --> 00:17:37,100 she only has an 8th grade education, she wasn't 365 00:17:37,233 --> 00:17:39,533 really passionate about anything. 366 00:17:39,667 --> 00:17:42,467 Shatner: Physicist and author Dr. Jan Vandersande 367 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:46,470 is an expert on mediums and psychic phenomena. 368 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:47,470 JAN VANDERSANDE: She didn't read much, she 369 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:48,900 didn't travel much. 370 00:17:49,033 --> 00:17:50,573 So here you have a lady who's, let's put it this way, 371 00:17:50,700 --> 00:17:52,700 boring. 372 00:17:52,834 --> 00:17:54,134 Shatner: The fashion of the day, Pearl and her 373 00:17:54,266 --> 00:17:56,496 friend are playing with a Ouija Board, trying to 374 00:17:56,633 --> 00:17:59,073 contact spirits. 375 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:01,170 JAN VANDERSANDE: A Ouija board is a board where all 376 00:18:01,300 --> 00:18:03,570 the letters of the alphabet are in a circle. 377 00:18:03,700 --> 00:18:06,970 And in the centre you put a glass upside down. 378 00:18:07,100 --> 00:18:08,600 And then you have about two or three people in the 379 00:18:08,734 --> 00:18:11,134 room put their hands on the glass and if someone 380 00:18:11,266 --> 00:18:13,196 there is a medium, the glass will 381 00:18:13,333 --> 00:18:15,803 start spelling out words. 382 00:18:15,934 --> 00:18:17,304 Shatner: Despite many attempts, they fail to 383 00:18:17,433 --> 00:18:18,973 raise the dead. 384 00:18:19,100 --> 00:18:22,830 But Pearl is persuaded to try one last time. 385 00:18:22,967 --> 00:18:24,167 JAN VANDERSANDE: They were playing and all of a 386 00:18:24,300 --> 00:18:26,130 sudden, the thing really started moving . 387 00:18:26,266 --> 00:18:28,466 There was no way where she knew where it was going. 388 00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:31,700 The spirits were using her to move the planchette on 389 00:18:31,834 --> 00:18:33,104 the Ouija board. 390 00:18:33,233 --> 00:18:34,303 Shatner: Someone, or something, is 391 00:18:34,433 --> 00:18:36,603 communicating with them. 392 00:18:36,734 --> 00:18:41,804 The glass begins to spell out a message. 393 00:18:41,934 --> 00:18:43,904 JAN VANDERSANDE: "Many moons ago I lived. 394 00:18:44,033 --> 00:18:45,303 Again I come. 395 00:18:45,433 --> 00:18:47,833 Patience Worth my name, wait. 396 00:18:47,967 --> 00:18:51,597 I would speak with thee. 397 00:18:51,734 --> 00:18:54,174 Good friends, let us be merry. 398 00:18:54,300 --> 00:18:56,330 The time for work is passed. 399 00:18:56,467 --> 00:19:01,197 Let the tabby drows and blinker wisdom to the fire log." 400 00:19:01,333 --> 00:19:03,503 Now that is not normal English. 401 00:19:03,633 --> 00:19:04,773 Shatner: They are connecting with someone 402 00:19:04,900 --> 00:19:08,570 named Patience Worth. 403 00:19:08,700 --> 00:19:09,930 Who was she? 404 00:19:10,066 --> 00:19:11,426 JAN VANDERSANDE: Patience Worth claimed she was born 405 00:19:11,567 --> 00:19:16,127 in 1649 in rural Dorchester, in England. 406 00:19:16,266 --> 00:19:17,996 And, uh, when she was about 30, she claimed she 407 00:19:18,133 --> 00:19:21,373 came to the US in Nantucket and there when 408 00:19:21,500 --> 00:19:24,600 she was 44 or 45, she was killed by the Indians. 409 00:19:24,734 --> 00:19:28,304 Shatner: Patience's essence is overwhelming. 410 00:19:28,433 --> 00:19:30,573 She is so powerful Pearl suddenly realises she no 411 00:19:30,700 --> 00:19:34,030 longer needs the Ouija board. 412 00:19:34,166 --> 00:19:35,396 JAN VANDERSANDE: She starts getting the words 413 00:19:35,533 --> 00:19:37,673 before the thing even moves. 414 00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:39,530 So that's how she knew she was the medium she's 415 00:19:39,667 --> 00:19:42,327 hearing the, the voices and the dictation from, 416 00:19:42,467 --> 00:19:45,527 from Patience. 417 00:19:45,667 --> 00:19:47,897 And she was seeing images, pictures while she was 418 00:19:48,033 --> 00:19:51,373 getting Patience talk to her. 419 00:19:51,500 --> 00:19:53,700 And that would then was then written down. 420 00:19:53,834 --> 00:19:55,704 So that's how she developed. 421 00:19:55,834 --> 00:19:57,704 Shatner: Over the coming months, Pearl's literary 422 00:19:57,834 --> 00:20:00,534 output is prolific. 423 00:20:00,667 --> 00:20:02,967 JAN VANDERSANDE: Patience dictated seven books, 424 00:20:03,100 --> 00:20:07,800 thousands of poems, short stories, it's incredible. 425 00:20:07,934 --> 00:20:09,234 Shatner: Her stories are filled with obscure 426 00:20:09,367 --> 00:20:11,367 details of 17th century life - things she simply 427 00:20:11,500 --> 00:20:13,900 could not have known. 428 00:20:14,033 --> 00:20:15,433 Pearl publishes her work. 429 00:20:15,567 --> 00:20:18,197 The critics love it. 430 00:20:18,333 --> 00:20:19,603 JAN VANDERSANDE: For example, the New York 431 00:20:19,734 --> 00:20:22,634 Tribune, New York Tribune, you know, it's a famous 432 00:20:22,767 --> 00:20:25,197 paper, review of her book called Hope True Blood, 433 00:20:25,333 --> 00:20:28,533 "a work approximating absolute genius." 434 00:20:28,667 --> 00:20:30,297 Lady's Pictorial of London: "This book will 435 00:20:30,433 --> 00:20:33,973 stand as a landmark of fiction by a new writer 436 00:20:34,100 --> 00:20:37,300 who will take a prominent place among great writers." 437 00:20:37,433 --> 00:20:40,033 Shatner: Pearl's unlikely transformation attracts 438 00:20:40,166 --> 00:20:42,496 the attention of skeptical scientists, who seek a 439 00:20:42,633 --> 00:20:44,673 rational explanation. 440 00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:46,200 JAN VANDERSANDE: Dr. Franklin Prince, he 441 00:20:46,333 --> 00:20:48,803 has a PhD from Yale and he was the head of the 442 00:20:48,934 --> 00:20:52,034 American Society for Psychical Research, they 443 00:20:52,166 --> 00:20:54,396 asked him to investigate her. 444 00:20:54,533 --> 00:20:57,303 So he spent several weeks interviewing her, sitting 445 00:20:57,433 --> 00:21:00,303 in on her sessions when she was writing. 446 00:21:00,433 --> 00:21:01,733 Shatner: But the doctor finds no evidence of 447 00:21:01,867 --> 00:21:02,997 deception. 448 00:21:03,133 --> 00:21:04,403 JAN VANDERSANDE: His conclusions were that 449 00:21:04,533 --> 00:21:06,973 Mrs. Curren was not, was not fraudulent and she was 450 00:21:07,100 --> 00:21:10,030 not, nuts or anything like that. 451 00:21:10,166 --> 00:21:11,696 She was a normal person. 452 00:21:11,834 --> 00:21:13,734 Shatner: Patience and Pearl's ghost writing 453 00:21:13,867 --> 00:21:16,367 partnership continues for almost a quarter of a 454 00:21:16,500 --> 00:21:19,970 century - until 1937 when, in an eerie twist, 455 00:21:20,100 --> 00:21:23,230 Patience uses her final message to deliver a 456 00:21:23,367 --> 00:21:25,567 chilling prediction. 457 00:21:25,700 --> 00:21:27,030 JAN VANDERSANDE: Patience actually told her in her 458 00:21:27,166 --> 00:21:29,526 the last communication that the end was drawing near. 459 00:21:29,667 --> 00:21:31,827 And all of a sudden she got sick and she died. 460 00:21:31,967 --> 00:21:34,867 There's no doubt about it, in my mind, this is a case 461 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:38,130 of mental mediumship where spirits communicate with her. 462 00:21:38,266 --> 00:21:42,096 William Shatner: It's an incredible story. 463 00:21:42,233 --> 00:21:43,573 You know, people often ask me if I use a ghost 464 00:21:43,700 --> 00:21:48,270 writer, with all these memoirs and novels and 465 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:50,230 poetry that I've published over the years. 466 00:21:50,367 --> 00:21:51,927 I'm not ashamed to say I do. 467 00:21:52,066 --> 00:21:53,766 Not that I couldn't do it all by myself, obviously, 468 00:21:53,900 --> 00:21:58,370 I'm a busy guy with a busy schedule. 469 00:21:58,500 --> 00:22:00,400 As is Fred. He's very talented. 470 00:22:00,533 --> 00:22:04,973 Whatcha got going for me today? 471 00:22:05,100 --> 00:22:08,500 I told you - stay off of Facebook when you're on 472 00:22:08,633 --> 00:22:10,373 working hours Fred. 473 00:22:10,500 --> 00:22:13,330 I want you to send a note to my wife. 474 00:22:13,467 --> 00:22:17,427 Tell her I'm with her in spirit. 475 00:22:17,567 --> 00:22:19,567 Shatner: How did Pearl Curran write so accurately 476 00:22:19,700 --> 00:22:23,430 about things she knew nothing about? 477 00:22:23,567 --> 00:22:27,867 Can paranormal entities take over our minds? 478 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:29,700 Shatner: Professor Stephen Braude is an expert on 479 00:22:29,834 --> 00:22:34,074 parapsychology and editor in chief of the 480 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:36,170 Journal of Scientific Exploration. 481 00:22:36,300 --> 00:22:37,270 STEPHEN BRAUDE: I personally don't think 482 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:40,370 Pearl Curran was channeling an entity 483 00:22:40,500 --> 00:22:41,700 Patience Worth. 484 00:22:41,834 --> 00:22:43,704 The character Patience Worth provided very few 485 00:22:43,834 --> 00:22:47,874 clues about her alleged earthly life. 486 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:50,530 Just that she lived in the 17th Century, around 487 00:22:50,667 --> 00:22:53,627 Dorset in England, at some point came to the U.S. 488 00:22:53,767 --> 00:22:56,767 and was killed in some kind of battle with Native Americans. 489 00:22:56,900 --> 00:22:57,970 That's pretty much all we know. 490 00:22:58,100 --> 00:22:59,870 So there's very little evidence. 491 00:23:00,066 --> 00:23:03,166 Shatner: So who was the literary genius? 492 00:23:03,300 --> 00:23:07,330 For Braude, the answer is easy - Pearl Curran. 493 00:23:07,467 --> 00:23:09,427 STEPHEN BRAUDE: My best guess about the 494 00:23:09,567 --> 00:23:11,067 Patience Worth case is that Pearl Curran was a kind of 495 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:12,430 dissociative virtuoso. 496 00:23:12,567 --> 00:23:14,627 Somebody who could go into a kind of altered state, 497 00:23:14,767 --> 00:23:17,067 and in that state, access various abilities and 498 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:20,130 reservoirs of knowledge that ordinarily, were not 499 00:23:20,266 --> 00:23:22,226 at her disposal. 500 00:23:22,367 --> 00:23:25,597 In Pearl's case I think she went into a kind of 501 00:23:25,734 --> 00:23:27,774 light trance at the Ouija board, a kind of 502 00:23:27,900 --> 00:23:30,470 dissociative state, and in that state she was able to 503 00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:34,500 by-pass certain barriers to creativity she had 504 00:23:34,633 --> 00:23:37,303 erected through most of her life. 505 00:23:37,433 --> 00:23:38,773 Shatner: Was Pearl Curran a world-class writer - 506 00:23:38,900 --> 00:23:41,370 without even knowing it? 507 00:23:41,500 --> 00:23:45,170 If so, Braude's theory leaves a nagging question. 508 00:23:45,300 --> 00:23:47,470 STEPHEN BRAUDE: One of the main and lingering puzzles 509 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:50,270 about the case, is how Pearl Curran, acquired the 510 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:55,600 knowledge that she did of life in England during the 511 00:23:55,734 --> 00:23:57,934 Victorian era so that she could write her novel, 512 00:23:58,066 --> 00:23:59,426 HOPE TRUE BLOOD. 513 00:23:59,567 --> 00:24:02,597 It's possible that she might have encountered 514 00:24:02,734 --> 00:24:04,974 some of the materials through her everyday life. 515 00:24:05,100 --> 00:24:09,830 My suggestion about this is that Pearl Curran had 516 00:24:09,967 --> 00:24:12,027 some latent and quite formidable linguistic 517 00:24:12,166 --> 00:24:13,726 talents which were just waiting for the proper 518 00:24:13,867 --> 00:24:18,697 time to nurture them and to bring them out. 519 00:24:18,834 --> 00:24:21,434 Shatner: Was Patience Worth just the name Pearl 520 00:24:21,567 --> 00:24:23,767 Curran gave to her inner author? 521 00:24:23,900 --> 00:24:25,070 Shatner: How did she know so much about things she 522 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:26,930 hadn't experienced? 523 00:24:27,066 --> 00:24:28,126 CYNTHIA LARSON: She was just getting it directly 524 00:24:28,266 --> 00:24:30,326 from that time, from that space. 525 00:24:38,900 --> 00:24:40,530 Shatner: A poorly educated housewife becomes a 526 00:24:40,667 --> 00:24:43,167 literary master. 527 00:24:43,300 --> 00:24:47,270 Did she possess hidden talents? 528 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:49,600 Cynthia Larson doesn't think so. 529 00:24:49,734 --> 00:24:52,834 She's an author and expert on the physics of reality 530 00:24:52,967 --> 00:24:54,927 - the building blocks of everything we know 531 00:24:55,066 --> 00:24:57,596 and experience. 532 00:24:57,734 --> 00:24:59,334 CYNTHIA LARSON: The Pearl Curran story is 533 00:24:59,467 --> 00:25:02,097 extraordinary and when I first heard about it I was 534 00:25:02,233 --> 00:25:05,773 amazed with the syntax, the language and the 535 00:25:05,900 --> 00:25:08,030 everyday experiences. 536 00:25:08,166 --> 00:25:09,996 Shatner: How did Pearl access this ancient 537 00:25:10,133 --> 00:25:14,033 knowledge in perfect detail? 538 00:25:14,166 --> 00:25:15,666 Quantum physics, of course. 539 00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:17,330 CYNTHIA LARSON: My theory about Pearl Curran is that 540 00:25:17,467 --> 00:25:19,967 she was quantum jumping back in time. 541 00:25:20,100 --> 00:25:21,530 If you can imagine this universe as consisting of 542 00:25:21,667 --> 00:25:25,327 many parallel alternate realities. 543 00:25:25,467 --> 00:25:27,527 Then what you're doing is actually choosing which 544 00:25:27,667 --> 00:25:29,497 one of those you want to go to. 545 00:25:29,633 --> 00:25:30,903 Establishing a kind of connection to it, through 546 00:25:31,033 --> 00:25:33,903 some meditative process and then bringing the 547 00:25:34,033 --> 00:25:36,733 correct energy to it to make that jump. 548 00:25:36,867 --> 00:25:38,867 Shatner: In addition to alternate realities, 549 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:41,230 Larson thinks quantum jumps can take us both 550 00:25:41,367 --> 00:25:44,227 backward and forward in time. 551 00:25:44,367 --> 00:25:45,597 CYNTHIA LARSON: Usually when we think of time 552 00:25:45,734 --> 00:25:47,974 travel we think in terms of time being linear. 553 00:25:48,100 --> 00:25:49,900 What is extremely different about quantum 554 00:25:50,033 --> 00:25:51,803 jumping is that we are working with the theory 555 00:25:51,934 --> 00:25:55,404 that we have many worlds, many alternate realities. 556 00:25:55,533 --> 00:25:57,833 That means there were many possible beginnings, we're 557 00:25:57,967 --> 00:26:01,867 right now moving towards many possible futures. 558 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:04,200 Shatner: Quantum jumping into the past might 559 00:26:04,333 --> 00:26:08,203 explain how Pearl wrote with such vivid detail. 560 00:26:08,333 --> 00:26:09,973 Shatner: But how did she do it? 561 00:26:10,100 --> 00:26:11,330 CYNTHIA LARSON: When people have this 562 00:26:11,467 --> 00:26:13,327 experience they often are in a meditative state. 563 00:26:13,467 --> 00:26:17,167 I think what Pearl was able to do by staying in 564 00:26:17,300 --> 00:26:21,500 that mind set, she was literally making what you 565 00:26:21,633 --> 00:26:23,833 might call a quantum jump, into that reality. 566 00:26:23,967 --> 00:26:25,667 That for her it was extremely real, and so 567 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:28,300 when the words came through it wasn't 568 00:26:28,433 --> 00:26:29,733 something that she was interpreting, she was just 569 00:26:29,867 --> 00:26:33,397 getting it directly from that time, from that space. 570 00:26:33,533 --> 00:26:35,533 What makes Pearl Curran's story so believable is we 571 00:26:35,667 --> 00:26:37,797 can see that she was clearly connecting with 572 00:26:37,934 --> 00:26:41,204 very definite times and spaces. 573 00:26:41,333 --> 00:26:43,873 Shatner: Did Pearl Curran access some hidden talent 574 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:46,000 to write her novels? 575 00:26:46,133 --> 00:26:50,573 Or was she quantum leaping back and forth through time? 576 00:26:50,700 --> 00:26:52,470 Shatner: Psychic Ellie Crystal sees no need to 577 00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:55,470 dispute Curran's version of events. 578 00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:57,400 ELLIE CRYSTAL: Pearl could not have known the 579 00:26:57,533 --> 00:26:59,473 information that she was writing about. 580 00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:02,130 She did not have access to the computer technologies 581 00:27:02,266 --> 00:27:04,126 we have today. 582 00:27:04,266 --> 00:27:07,966 Pearl wrote all her books based on her connections 583 00:27:08,100 --> 00:27:10,500 with the collective unconscious and an entity 584 00:27:10,633 --> 00:27:13,373 she called Patience Worth. 585 00:27:13,500 --> 00:27:16,270 Shatner: But how was she able to contact this spirit? 586 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:19,330 Crystal is certain that Pearl was, like herself, 587 00:27:19,467 --> 00:27:21,927 a psychic. 588 00:27:22,066 --> 00:27:23,466 ELLIE CRYSTAL: As a psychic, you're moving 589 00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:25,330 your consciousness from this reality to another 590 00:27:25,467 --> 00:27:28,567 reality getting information and bringing it back. 591 00:27:28,700 --> 00:27:30,030 Shatner: To show just how easy it is to tap into 592 00:27:30,166 --> 00:27:32,796 information from the dead - Crystal is going to 593 00:27:32,934 --> 00:27:35,074 demonstrate - by contacting the spirit of 594 00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:37,970 none other than ...Pearl Curran. 595 00:27:38,100 --> 00:27:41,800 ELLIE CRYSTAL: The energy of Pearl is still in the grids. 596 00:27:50,133 --> 00:27:51,573 Pearl is saying... 597 00:27:51,700 --> 00:27:54,370 she is showing me two keys. 598 00:27:54,500 --> 00:27:57,870 Beautiful gold keys. 599 00:27:58,000 --> 00:27:59,770 She's writing now. 600 00:27:59,900 --> 00:28:01,570 Shatner: Crystal says this kind of channeling is 601 00:28:01,700 --> 00:28:03,870 called "automatic writing." 602 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:06,130 ELLIE CRYSTAL: The waters will be big... 603 00:28:06,266 --> 00:28:11,666 The land areas will fall. 604 00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:13,500 When I'm doing automatic writing I just let my hand 605 00:28:13,633 --> 00:28:16,273 go across the page and write whatever - whatever 606 00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:19,530 comes out and it just goes, and goes, and goes 607 00:28:19,667 --> 00:28:21,897 to a point where you just have this feeling 608 00:28:22,033 --> 00:28:23,773 of being complete. 609 00:28:23,900 --> 00:28:26,170 And then you look down and you see what you wrote. 610 00:28:26,300 --> 00:28:29,170 Shatner: Is this how Pearl wrote her best-sellers? 611 00:28:29,300 --> 00:28:30,930 ELLIE CRYSTAL: Automatic writing is something you 612 00:28:31,066 --> 00:28:34,466 come back to all the time and you keep writing 613 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:35,600 and writing. 614 00:28:35,734 --> 00:28:37,804 It can get very addictive also. 615 00:28:37,934 --> 00:28:40,434 Shatner: Did Pearl Curran travel back in time and 616 00:28:40,567 --> 00:28:43,297 report what she saw? 617 00:28:43,433 --> 00:28:45,473 Did she contact a long-dead spirit to write 618 00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:47,300 her novels? 619 00:28:47,433 --> 00:28:50,973 Or was she tapping into an ability she never knew she had? 620 00:28:51,100 --> 00:28:52,530 We may never know. 621 00:28:52,667 --> 00:28:54,927 Weird... or What? 622 00:29:07,934 --> 00:29:10,074 Shatner: In California, a woman causes machines - 623 00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:12,730 and people - to go haywire. 624 00:29:12,867 --> 00:29:14,497 CHERYL WELSH: Electrical equipment didn't work 625 00:29:14,633 --> 00:29:16,833 anymore, my computer, my tv. 626 00:29:26,467 --> 00:29:29,497 William Shatner: Oh my God. 627 00:29:29,633 --> 00:29:32,033 You know I wish I had one of these when I was a kid. 628 00:29:32,166 --> 00:29:36,826 Isn't this amazing? Wooh! 629 00:29:36,967 --> 00:29:38,067 It's hard to believe, isn't it? 630 00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:44,030 I can control every movement of this tiny 631 00:29:44,166 --> 00:29:51,366 device - up...yeah and watch this, down...up. 632 00:29:51,500 --> 00:29:54,100 I have complete power over it - I can make it perform 633 00:29:54,233 --> 00:30:00,133 even the most intricate of maneuvers - without even... 634 00:30:00,266 --> 00:30:02,026 Guess I need more practice. 635 00:30:02,166 --> 00:30:05,066 Wireless devices like this are no longer a novelty - 636 00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:07,730 but what if instead of a helicopter you could 637 00:30:07,867 --> 00:30:11,267 control - someone's brain - now that would make for 638 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:16,130 an interesting story. Here it is. 639 00:30:16,266 --> 00:30:19,126 Shatner: September, 1988. 640 00:30:19,266 --> 00:30:21,166 It is the start of the fall semester at the 641 00:30:21,300 --> 00:30:24,000 University of California Davis - where Cheryl Welsh 642 00:30:24,133 --> 00:30:27,373 is beginning life as a law student. 643 00:30:27,500 --> 00:30:29,400 CHERYL WELSH: I grew up in Sacramento California, 644 00:30:29,533 --> 00:30:33,803 I was a receptionist at Kaiser Hospital for 10 years. 645 00:30:33,934 --> 00:30:36,104 I decided that I wanted to go back to school 646 00:30:36,233 --> 00:30:38,973 and so I went to UC Davis. 647 00:30:39,100 --> 00:30:43,830 Shatner: But as her studies get underway, things change. 648 00:30:43,967 --> 00:30:47,227 CHERYL WELSH: I know what normal life is and life 649 00:30:47,367 --> 00:30:50,497 became very abnormal. 650 00:30:50,633 --> 00:30:52,373 Shatner: It starts with her telephone. 651 00:30:52,500 --> 00:30:53,970 CHERYL WELSH: Usually you pick up a phone, you hear 652 00:30:54,100 --> 00:30:56,170 dial tone...but my phone...there would be 653 00:30:56,300 --> 00:31:05,370 click noises, there'd be a long pause - then static. 654 00:31:05,500 --> 00:31:07,100 Shatner: She has it checked, but the strange 655 00:31:07,233 --> 00:31:08,703 noises continue. 656 00:31:08,834 --> 00:31:11,434 Cheryl becomes concerned. 657 00:31:11,567 --> 00:31:13,627 Shatner: It's the first of many appliances that 658 00:31:13,767 --> 00:31:16,367 behave erratically in her presence. 659 00:31:16,500 --> 00:31:17,670 CHERYL WELSH: Things in my environment, all of the 660 00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:20,470 electrical equipment didn't work anymore, my 661 00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:26,570 computer, my TV. 662 00:31:26,700 --> 00:31:28,770 Shatner: Her unease grows as she discovers it's not 663 00:31:28,900 --> 00:31:32,230 only machines that act strangely around her . 664 00:31:32,367 --> 00:31:34,267 CHERYL WELSH: Police cars started to follow me. 665 00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:36,170 I had a rock thrown at my car. 666 00:31:36,300 --> 00:31:37,930 Somebody tried to drive me off the road. 667 00:31:38,066 --> 00:31:39,166 I mean, I've never had a ticket. 668 00:31:39,300 --> 00:31:42,000 I've never taken drugs. 669 00:31:42,133 --> 00:31:43,033 People in my environment were acting out of 670 00:31:43,166 --> 00:31:44,626 character. 671 00:31:44,767 --> 00:31:47,497 I was acting my normal self, and people were 672 00:31:47,633 --> 00:31:49,103 acting weird. 673 00:31:49,233 --> 00:31:52,073 People turned against me, people would stare at you. 674 00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:57,370 And students would swear and spit on me. 675 00:31:57,500 --> 00:32:00,230 Shatner: Weirder still, random strangers on the 676 00:32:00,367 --> 00:32:02,927 street seem to know exactly what she's thinking. 677 00:32:03,066 --> 00:32:04,896 CHERYL WELSH: I felt like I was surveiled, I thought 678 00:32:05,033 --> 00:32:08,773 somebody could read my thoughts. 679 00:32:08,900 --> 00:32:10,470 Shatner: Cheryl's personal life falls apart as 680 00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:13,300 friends and family drift away. 681 00:32:13,433 --> 00:32:16,103 Then, she's fired from her job. 682 00:32:16,233 --> 00:32:17,673 CHERYL WELSH: It was like shock and awe for three 683 00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:21,130 years it was like that. 684 00:32:21,266 --> 00:32:24,096 I realized, you know, this wasn't going to go away, 685 00:32:24,233 --> 00:32:25,833 despite my best efforts. 686 00:32:25,967 --> 00:32:27,927 That was a really depressing, blackest 687 00:32:28,066 --> 00:32:29,726 moment of my life. 688 00:32:29,867 --> 00:32:32,127 I just cried and cried and cried, I thought, why not 689 00:32:32,266 --> 00:32:33,766 just end it? 690 00:32:33,900 --> 00:32:38,570 Shatner: Fearing for her sanity, Cheryl seeks help. 691 00:32:38,700 --> 00:32:41,330 CHERYL WELSH: So I went to my adviser and I was 692 00:32:41,467 --> 00:32:42,827 having trouble academically. 693 00:32:42,967 --> 00:32:45,367 And so he helped me get through this and, um, he 694 00:32:45,500 --> 00:32:47,530 was the only one that believed me. 695 00:32:47,667 --> 00:32:51,027 Her adviser comes to a quick conclusion: 696 00:32:51,166 --> 00:32:54,026 Cheryl is the victim of a deliberate and organized 697 00:32:54,166 --> 00:32:56,926 campaign of harassment. 698 00:32:57,066 --> 00:32:59,226 But who is behind it? 699 00:32:59,367 --> 00:33:00,667 CHERYL WELSH: First we checked out, we thought 700 00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:02,300 maybe there's a psychology experiment they're trying 701 00:33:02,433 --> 00:33:04,173 to stress you out. 702 00:33:04,300 --> 00:33:06,330 There was no psychology experiment. 703 00:33:06,467 --> 00:33:08,527 So I hired private investigators and I tried 704 00:33:08,667 --> 00:33:11,627 to figure out if there were any bugs in my apartment. 705 00:33:11,767 --> 00:33:12,997 Nothing. 706 00:33:13,133 --> 00:33:14,973 I'm talking to my adviser, we both figured only the 707 00:33:15,100 --> 00:33:16,800 government would have the kind, this kind of control 708 00:33:16,934 --> 00:33:19,374 over your telephone, or what you did in the 709 00:33:19,500 --> 00:33:21,200 privacy of your apartment. 710 00:33:21,333 --> 00:33:23,803 Shatner: Deciding to investigate, Cheryl gains 711 00:33:23,934 --> 00:33:25,974 access to government documents. 712 00:33:26,100 --> 00:33:29,130 They reveal the unthinkable: a top-secret 713 00:33:29,266 --> 00:33:32,096 experiment is subjecting everyday citizens - to 714 00:33:32,233 --> 00:33:36,473 mind control. 715 00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:38,100 CHERYL WELSH: Major countries have developed 716 00:33:38,233 --> 00:33:39,833 this secret mind control technology, especially 717 00:33:39,967 --> 00:33:41,827 Russia and the United States. 718 00:33:41,967 --> 00:33:43,697 Shatner: She's convinced the people who harassed 719 00:33:43,834 --> 00:33:47,374 her were under mind control - and didn't even know it. 720 00:33:47,500 --> 00:33:48,870 CHERYL WELSH: Somebody is making them do things, you 721 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:52,070 know against, without their knowing it. 722 00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:54,200 Shatner: But why choose Cheryl? 723 00:33:54,333 --> 00:33:55,603 CHERYL WELSH: You're going to need to experiment on a 724 00:33:55,734 --> 00:33:57,504 lot of people, you can't do it ethically, so you're 725 00:33:57,633 --> 00:34:00,373 going to do it covertly, you know. 726 00:34:00,500 --> 00:34:02,170 Shatner: She thinks she knows what put her on the 727 00:34:02,300 --> 00:34:03,670 government's radar. 728 00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:05,030 CHERYL WELSH: Before I went to UC Davis I went to 729 00:34:05,166 --> 00:34:06,726 the Army recruiting office. 730 00:34:06,867 --> 00:34:09,227 I filled out the forms, I put in my application, but 731 00:34:09,367 --> 00:34:11,027 I went to UC Davis instead. 732 00:34:11,166 --> 00:34:15,266 And then after that was when this happened. 733 00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:16,970 After networking with other victims, they have 734 00:34:17,100 --> 00:34:20,200 that connection, former people who applied to the 735 00:34:20,333 --> 00:34:22,703 CIA, former people who have relatives in the, in 736 00:34:22,834 --> 00:34:27,204 the government or the CIA are often targets. 737 00:34:27,333 --> 00:34:29,533 Shatner: Are the minds of innocent citizens being 738 00:34:29,667 --> 00:34:31,067 controlled by government-sanctioned 739 00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:32,670 experiments? 740 00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:34,870 Is Cheryl Welsh telling the truth? 741 00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:38,030 Or are her claims absurd - just another conspiracy 742 00:34:38,166 --> 00:34:41,026 theory that's impossible to prove? 743 00:34:41,166 --> 00:34:45,966 Shatner: Maybe - but not if you listen to Nick Begich. 744 00:34:46,100 --> 00:34:47,230 NICK BEGICH: I think there's some good evidence 745 00:34:47,367 --> 00:34:49,667 that um, Cheryl Welch and many of the other people 746 00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:52,470 I've spoken with um have been victimized by this 747 00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:55,000 electromagnetic mind control experiments. 748 00:34:55,133 --> 00:34:57,633 The weapons of this century aren't bombs and 749 00:34:57,767 --> 00:34:59,597 bullets and ordinance. 750 00:34:59,734 --> 00:35:01,804 But electromagnetic energy targeting the human being, 751 00:35:01,934 --> 00:35:04,434 which is a greatest revolution in military 752 00:35:04,567 --> 00:35:07,897 affairs, um, since gunpowder. 753 00:35:08,033 --> 00:35:11,473 Shatner: Begich is an expert in government mind control. 754 00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:13,430 He is convinced the Pentagon has mastered a 755 00:35:13,567 --> 00:35:16,597 technology once thought to be science fiction: the 756 00:35:16,734 --> 00:35:20,174 ability to broadcast information directly into 757 00:35:20,300 --> 00:35:23,500 the human brain. 758 00:35:23,633 --> 00:35:26,303 NICK BEGICH: Our government began spending 759 00:35:26,433 --> 00:35:28,073 a lot of time looking at how to modify behaviour of 760 00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:30,630 human beings, going back to the Korean War. 761 00:35:30,767 --> 00:35:33,727 In fact, in a publication, Low Intensity Conflict and 762 00:35:33,867 --> 00:35:36,567 Modern Technology, they have a chapter on 763 00:35:36,700 --> 00:35:39,170 electromagnetic weapons systems being able to not 764 00:35:39,300 --> 00:35:41,670 just to dehabilitate someone but actually even 765 00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:44,530 to stimulate certain activities within the brain. 766 00:35:44,667 --> 00:35:46,027 Shatner: But how? 767 00:35:46,166 --> 00:35:48,566 NICK BEGICH: HAARP is the High Frequency Active 768 00:35:48,700 --> 00:35:50,070 Aurora Research Project, which started as a joint 769 00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:51,530 effort of the Air Force and Navy. 770 00:35:51,667 --> 00:35:55,127 This is a very large array or field of antennas based 771 00:35:55,266 --> 00:35:57,896 in Alaska, radio frequency antennas. 772 00:35:58,033 --> 00:36:00,573 Shatner: HAARP antennas transmit powerful radio 773 00:36:00,700 --> 00:36:03,670 signals into the upper atmosphere to study the 774 00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:06,930 effects on wireless communications. 775 00:36:07,066 --> 00:36:09,426 But Begich says HAARP can also be used for more 776 00:36:09,567 --> 00:36:11,597 sinister ends . 777 00:36:11,734 --> 00:36:13,004 NICK BEGICH: HAARP has announced several of their 778 00:36:13,133 --> 00:36:16,073 programs and campaigns, and there's two areas that 779 00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:18,030 I got very concerned about. 780 00:36:18,166 --> 00:36:20,926 One was weather modification applications. 781 00:36:21,066 --> 00:36:25,966 The other was the effect on human beings. 782 00:36:26,100 --> 00:36:28,200 If you can modulate a signal, that, that the 783 00:36:28,333 --> 00:36:31,773 brain locks on to, recognizes, and begins to 784 00:36:31,900 --> 00:36:35,670 mirror, or follow the frequency, following response. 785 00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:37,730 The brain rhythms change, then that creates a 786 00:36:37,867 --> 00:36:40,927 chemical cascade within the brain and the emotions change. 787 00:36:41,066 --> 00:36:43,966 Now the resolution gets finer and finer and finer. 788 00:36:44,100 --> 00:36:47,070 And it used to just be about triggering emotions. 789 00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:48,770 You could change peoples' brain chemistry pretty 790 00:36:48,900 --> 00:36:52,230 readily, change their emotional state pretty easily. 791 00:36:52,367 --> 00:36:53,967 But when you get down to the idea of thoughts, and 792 00:36:54,100 --> 00:36:56,300 being able to manipulate those, that requires a 793 00:36:56,433 --> 00:36:58,803 much...a different kind of sophistication. 794 00:36:58,934 --> 00:37:03,804 Shatner: Can we hear sounds - without using our ears? 795 00:37:03,934 --> 00:37:05,834 Not only is it possible, says Begich - he can prove 796 00:37:05,967 --> 00:37:09,567 it, using sound recordist Brad Dawe. 797 00:37:09,700 --> 00:37:11,370 NICK BEGICH: So what I'm going to demonstrate is an 798 00:37:11,500 --> 00:37:12,930 earth pulse sound wave. 799 00:37:13,066 --> 00:37:14,926 And what this is is an infrasound device. 800 00:37:15,066 --> 00:37:17,166 It's just a small electronic circuit that we 801 00:37:17,300 --> 00:37:20,830 run a cd player playing some Bach into our circuit 802 00:37:20,967 --> 00:37:24,767 and then comes out through two piezoelectric transducers. 803 00:37:24,900 --> 00:37:26,970 So I'm going to place this transducers on your face, 804 00:37:27,100 --> 00:37:28,500 you're going to block your ears tightly. 805 00:37:28,633 --> 00:37:33,333 We put those in contact with the skin and listen. 806 00:37:33,467 --> 00:37:35,727 BRAD DAWE: Yup. 807 00:37:35,867 --> 00:37:37,097 NICK BEGICH: So what do you hear? 808 00:37:37,233 --> 00:37:38,873 BRAD DAWE: I hear the music, yeah, loudly. 809 00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:40,400 NICK BEGICH: Right in the center of their forehead, 810 00:37:40,533 --> 00:37:42,933 inside their head they'll hear Bach, just like they 811 00:37:43,066 --> 00:37:45,996 would with their ears but the ears aren't involved. 812 00:37:46,133 --> 00:37:48,103 NICK BEGICH: Now, I can take this away, if you'd 813 00:37:48,233 --> 00:37:51,833 hold this on there with one finger and then we'll 814 00:37:51,967 --> 00:37:54,267 show that this current actually can transit. 815 00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:56,730 So it only works when I touch your head or when I 816 00:37:56,867 --> 00:37:58,927 touch your skin. 817 00:37:59,066 --> 00:38:01,396 Essentially the current is going through both of us 818 00:38:01,533 --> 00:38:02,903 but the signal does not go down, it maintains 819 00:38:03,033 --> 00:38:05,103 the same volume. 820 00:38:05,233 --> 00:38:06,433 BRAD DAWE: It wasn't through my ears at all, it 821 00:38:06,567 --> 00:38:08,197 was basically...it felt like it was coming from 822 00:38:08,333 --> 00:38:10,433 the middle of my head...no direction...and it was 823 00:38:10,567 --> 00:38:14,867 clear so not through my ears at all which was 824 00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:16,200 pretty cool. 825 00:38:16,333 --> 00:38:17,573 NICK BEGICH: Now we can do this wirelessly with 826 00:38:17,700 --> 00:38:20,570 microwaves so there's lots of ways to do it and this 827 00:38:20,700 --> 00:38:23,870 just gives a very simple sort of workbench model 828 00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:26,000 that gives the principle so people can understand, 829 00:38:26,133 --> 00:38:32,233 yeah you can really do it. 830 00:38:32,367 --> 00:38:34,167 William Shatner: Don't you just love death-metal? 831 00:38:34,300 --> 00:38:36,500 I've got a head banger award. 832 00:38:36,633 --> 00:38:39,103 Now this is a fascinating theory - but there's just 833 00:38:39,233 --> 00:38:40,403 one problem. 834 00:38:40,533 --> 00:38:43,573 I'm not sure these piezoelectric tranducers 835 00:38:43,700 --> 00:38:46,400 are going to catch on as a fashion accessory - and 836 00:38:46,533 --> 00:38:52,273 frankly I don't even know what piezoelectric means. 837 00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:54,630 But if we're to believe Begich - the government 838 00:38:54,767 --> 00:38:59,427 don't even need these - they're tapping directly 839 00:38:59,567 --> 00:39:02,067 into our minds - controlling us with 840 00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:04,070 powerful, invisible microwaves that can alter 841 00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:07,200 the very way we think and act, making us believe 842 00:39:07,333 --> 00:39:10,703 anything they want us to.... 843 00:39:10,834 --> 00:39:14,674 And that's just the Republicans. 844 00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:16,900 Shatner: Is the government manipulating our minds - 845 00:39:17,033 --> 00:39:19,073 wirelessly? 846 00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:21,470 Or does the answer lie elsewhere? 847 00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:24,230 Ryan Fuller: There's some kind of organization out to get them. 848 00:39:33,300 --> 00:39:34,500 Shatner: A California woman suffers a brutal 849 00:39:34,633 --> 00:39:37,933 campaign of harassment. 850 00:39:38,066 --> 00:39:38,966 Is the government trying to control her mind? 851 00:39:39,100 --> 00:39:42,830 Clinical psychologist 852 00:39:42,967 --> 00:39:45,567 J. Ryan Fuller believes Cheryl's experience isn't 853 00:39:45,700 --> 00:39:48,770 due to harassment - but mental illness. 854 00:39:48,900 --> 00:39:50,400 RYAN FULLER: When I heard of some of the things that 855 00:39:50,533 --> 00:39:52,803 were described, um, certainly bring to mind 856 00:39:52,934 --> 00:39:55,234 the kinds of content that sometimes people with 857 00:39:55,367 --> 00:39:58,067 psychotic disorders have. 858 00:39:58,200 --> 00:39:59,730 Shatner: He thinks Cheryl has a classic case of 859 00:39:59,867 --> 00:40:03,867 "delusional disorder." 860 00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:05,800 RYAN FULLER: A delusional disorder is a particular 861 00:40:05,934 --> 00:40:07,204 type of psychotic disorder, where there's 862 00:40:07,333 --> 00:40:08,933 going to be a false belief that's held very, 863 00:40:09,066 --> 00:40:10,396 very strongly. 864 00:40:10,533 --> 00:40:11,873 So I might believe that my mother in law is trying to 865 00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:13,900 poison me with her cooking. 866 00:40:14,033 --> 00:40:16,073 It's something that could happen in the real world, 867 00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:18,570 but there isn't any evidence to confirm it. 868 00:40:18,700 --> 00:40:19,930 Shatner: But what about the strangers who spit at 869 00:40:20,066 --> 00:40:22,426 Cheryl in the street? 870 00:40:22,567 --> 00:40:24,297 RYAN FULLER: The interpretation that people 871 00:40:24,433 --> 00:40:27,033 are going to be insulting them or hostile or have 872 00:40:27,166 --> 00:40:30,526 malicious intent is very, very common. 873 00:40:30,667 --> 00:40:32,627 It could be that I'm being harassed by the police, or 874 00:40:32,767 --> 00:40:35,827 the FBI, there's a conspiracy, um, there's 875 00:40:35,967 --> 00:40:38,867 some kinds of organization or people kind of out to 876 00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:40,700 get them that's going to sort of lead to sort of 877 00:40:40,834 --> 00:40:43,974 suspiciousness and hyper vigilance and things like that. 878 00:40:44,100 --> 00:40:47,000 Shatner: Ironically, Cheryl could be making it worse. 879 00:40:47,133 --> 00:40:48,533 RYAN FULLER: There is evidence in fact that by 880 00:40:48,667 --> 00:40:51,797 struggling with it and sort of fighting it and 881 00:40:51,934 --> 00:40:54,604 working to change it, that that does in fact, uh, 882 00:40:54,734 --> 00:40:58,234 increase the one stress level and increase anxiety. 883 00:40:58,367 --> 00:41:00,927 So there can be a great deal of suffering. 884 00:41:01,066 --> 00:41:05,226 Shatner: Is Cheryl Welsh suffering from delusions? 885 00:41:05,367 --> 00:41:10,497 Or is the real explanation even more out there? 886 00:41:10,633 --> 00:41:11,733 Shatner: Trish MacGregor has written about the 887 00:41:11,867 --> 00:41:14,627 paranormal for over 30 years. 888 00:41:14,767 --> 00:41:16,767 She thinks she can explain at least one of Cheryl's 889 00:41:16,900 --> 00:41:19,070 experiences - her strange encounters 890 00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:21,300 with electrical equipment. 891 00:41:21,433 --> 00:41:23,033 TRISH MACGREGOR: My theory about Cheryl Welsh is it 892 00:41:23,166 --> 00:41:24,366 could be the Pauli Effect. 893 00:41:24,500 --> 00:41:27,200 The Pauli Effect is, is a label, a term that grew 894 00:41:27,333 --> 00:41:30,973 out of a phenomena that used to happen whenever 895 00:41:31,100 --> 00:41:34,070 Wolfgang Pauli who was a theoretical physicist, 896 00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:36,230 would walk into a science lab and equipment would 897 00:41:36,367 --> 00:41:38,627 spontaneously break down. 898 00:41:38,767 --> 00:41:39,967 Shatner: Wolfgang Pauli was a brilliant Nobel 899 00:41:40,100 --> 00:41:42,530 Prize winning physicist who counted Einstein 900 00:41:42,667 --> 00:41:46,827 himself among his many admirers. 901 00:41:46,967 --> 00:41:49,267 But Pauli is also remembered for his ability 902 00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:51,900 to cause lab equipment to malfunction - simply by 903 00:41:52,033 --> 00:41:53,903 being near it. 904 00:41:54,033 --> 00:41:55,573 TRISH MACGREGOR: In 1950, he walked into a lab in 905 00:41:55,700 --> 00:41:59,070 Princeton, where they had a particle accelerator. 906 00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:02,970 And it caught on fire and burned. 907 00:42:03,100 --> 00:42:07,070 This lab in Hamburg banned Pauli from, from the lab. 908 00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:09,630 I mean, that, that's how prominent this whole 909 00:42:09,767 --> 00:42:11,527 phenomena became. 910 00:42:11,667 --> 00:42:13,697 Shatner: Even stranger, the Pauli effect didn't 911 00:42:13,834 --> 00:42:15,774 stop at the laboratory. 912 00:42:15,900 --> 00:42:18,070 TRISH MACGREGOR: On Pauli's second honeymoon, 913 00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:19,730 uh, he and his wife set up for a car trip, he had a 914 00:42:19,867 --> 00:42:21,867 new battery in the car, and the battery died. 915 00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:23,330 Wasn't the fact that he was a klutz, it wasn't 916 00:42:23,467 --> 00:42:25,427 like he was stumbling into equipment, he would walk 917 00:42:25,567 --> 00:42:28,297 in and without doing anything, the equipment 918 00:42:28,433 --> 00:42:31,273 would spontaneously just break down. 919 00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:32,700 They kept saying, oh it's coincidence, you know. 920 00:42:32,834 --> 00:42:34,834 This is scientifically impossible and yet 921 00:42:34,967 --> 00:42:36,497 it kept happening. 922 00:42:36,633 --> 00:42:40,233 Shatner: Is Cheryl suffering from the Pauli effect? 923 00:42:40,367 --> 00:42:43,067 MacGregor says we can't dismiss the possibility. 924 00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:44,500 TRISH MACGREGOR: I don't think we can say to Cheryl 925 00:42:44,633 --> 00:42:47,273 Welsh, what you experience is not real. 926 00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:51,270 Because it is. It's real to her. 927 00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:53,270 Shatner: Is Cheryl Welsh the victim of a series of 928 00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:55,830 bizarre coincidences? 929 00:42:55,967 --> 00:42:59,267 Was she the target of a government experiment in mind control? 930 00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:01,700 Or is it all in her head? 931 00:43:01,834 --> 00:43:03,774 Weird... or What? 932 00:43:15,100 --> 00:43:16,900 Shatner: So there we have it, three stories 933 00:43:17,033 --> 00:43:19,073 of mind control. 934 00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:21,930 An implant turbocharges a man's brain. 935 00:43:22,066 --> 00:43:24,226 Is it an alien device? 936 00:43:24,367 --> 00:43:27,697 A housewife turns into a literary genius. 937 00:43:27,834 --> 00:43:31,434 Is she channeling a spirit from the 17th century? 938 00:43:31,567 --> 00:43:36,127 And a woman suffers a bizarre campaign of harassment. 939 00:43:36,266 --> 00:43:39,596 Is she a guinea pig for a secret technology? 940 00:43:39,734 --> 00:43:41,034 You decide. 941 00:43:41,166 --> 00:43:42,666 William Shatner: Join me next time for more stories 942 00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:46,670 that will undoubtedly be weird or what? 72211

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