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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:04,533 --> 00:00:06,473 and may contain mature subject matter. 2 00:00:06,467 --> 00:00:15,227 Viewer discretion is advised. 3 00:00:15,367 --> 00:00:17,097 WILLIAM SHATNER: You know, I've been around for a while. 4 00:00:17,233 --> 00:00:21,833 Met some interesting people, done some crazy things. 5 00:00:21,967 --> 00:00:24,067 So you just might think that there's not much that 6 00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:28,070 can take me by surprise. 7 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:31,770 You'd be wrong. 8 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:38,130 The world is full of stories and science and 9 00:00:38,266 --> 00:00:42,196 things that amaze and confound me every single day, 10 00:00:42,333 --> 00:00:44,173 incredible mysteries that keep me awake at night. 11 00:00:44,300 --> 00:00:46,000 Some I can answer. 12 00:00:46,133 --> 00:00:49,373 Others just defy logic. 13 00:00:51,066 --> 00:00:53,626 NARRATOR: Do ghosts exist? 14 00:00:53,767 --> 00:00:58,327 Should we fear the paranormal? 15 00:00:58,467 --> 00:01:01,027 In California, a woman is terrorized by an invisible 16 00:01:01,166 --> 00:01:02,826 attacker. 17 00:01:02,967 --> 00:01:06,227 Is she the victim of a genuine haunting? 18 00:01:06,367 --> 00:01:07,467 BARRY TAFF: Forget the silly movies that are out there. 19 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:12,030 This is real. 20 00:01:12,166 --> 00:01:13,296 NARRATOR: In New England, a mother undergoes a 21 00:01:13,433 --> 00:01:17,133 violent transformation. 22 00:01:17,266 --> 00:01:19,066 Has she been possessed by a demon? 23 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:22,330 BOB LARSON: It'll make a cold chill go up your spine. 24 00:01:26,166 --> 00:01:30,126 NARRATOR: And a British teenager claims to see ghosts. 25 00:01:30,266 --> 00:01:32,526 Does she have the gift? 26 00:01:32,667 --> 00:01:36,167 FAE JACKSON: Like the fear, it was uncontrollable. 27 00:01:36,300 --> 00:01:40,030 WILLIAM SHATNER: Yeah, it's a weird world. 28 00:01:40,166 --> 00:01:41,396 And I love it. 29 00:01:41,533 --> 00:01:51,503 [♪] 30 00:01:57,266 --> 00:02:01,566 WILLIAM SHATNER: Have you ever seen a ghost? 31 00:02:01,700 --> 00:02:03,970 Over ninety million North Americans claim to have 32 00:02:04,100 --> 00:02:06,270 done just that and forty million others say they 33 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:10,970 have physically experienced a paranormal event. 34 00:02:12,567 --> 00:02:15,927 Many of these events are easily explained but some 35 00:02:16,066 --> 00:02:18,766 are not only weird and inexplicable - most 36 00:02:18,900 --> 00:02:26,000 disturbing of all, they seem to be evidence of pure evil. 37 00:02:26,133 --> 00:02:28,273 Do ghosts exist? 38 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:29,800 And what are they anyway? 39 00:02:29,934 --> 00:02:31,404 Is the paranormal something we should fear? 40 00:02:31,533 --> 00:02:37,633 Or is it simply uh... 41 00:02:37,767 --> 00:02:39,267 hogwash? 42 00:02:43,133 --> 00:02:47,573 NARRATOR: August 8th, 1989. 43 00:02:47,700 --> 00:02:49,470 Barry Taff, one of the world's leading paranormal 44 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:52,470 investigators, responds to the call of a distressed 45 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:56,230 woman in San Pedro, California. 46 00:02:56,367 --> 00:02:58,467 He brings along a colleague, photographer 47 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:00,870 Jeff Wheatcraft. 48 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:02,900 BARRY TAFF: After five thousand cases, you go out 49 00:03:03,033 --> 00:03:05,173 expecting nothing to happen and most of the 50 00:03:05,300 --> 00:03:09,000 time that's exactly what does occur - nothing. 51 00:03:09,133 --> 00:03:11,873 NARRATOR: The terrified woman is Jackie Hernandez, 52 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:15,670 a single mother who claims that someone or something 53 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:18,130 has turned her home into a living hell. 54 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:23,170 BARRY TAFF: She reported apparitions of an old man, 55 00:03:23,300 --> 00:03:25,430 strange lights. 56 00:03:25,567 --> 00:03:27,827 Somebody tried to smother her a couple times. 57 00:03:27,967 --> 00:03:29,667 Things were flying at her. 58 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:31,570 It was extraordinary. 59 00:03:31,700 --> 00:03:33,600 NARRATOR: But perhaps most chilling, on several 60 00:03:33,734 --> 00:03:37,904 occasions Jackie claims to have seen a corpse in her 61 00:03:38,033 --> 00:03:39,773 son's bed. 62 00:03:39,900 --> 00:03:44,200 Intrigued, the ghost hunters decide to look around. 63 00:03:44,333 --> 00:03:46,333 BARRY TAFF: I have this attitude where I'm very 64 00:03:46,467 --> 00:03:47,967 skeptical because you know that a lot of people 65 00:03:48,100 --> 00:03:52,500 embellish and exaggerate and misrepresent what's going on. 66 00:03:52,633 --> 00:03:55,403 NARRATOR: But in Jackie's house they find something 67 00:03:55,533 --> 00:04:01,433 unexpected - and very weird. 68 00:04:01,567 --> 00:04:03,027 BARRY TAFF: We were taking pictures all over the 69 00:04:03,166 --> 00:04:06,466 house and we saw this strange liquid - I don't 70 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:10,400 know what, viscous liquid dripping out of a wall. 71 00:04:12,567 --> 00:04:15,227 NARRATOR: Unable to explain the weird slime, 72 00:04:15,367 --> 00:04:17,597 Taff is now convinced Jackie's not faking 73 00:04:17,734 --> 00:04:20,034 anything and real paranormal activity is 74 00:04:20,166 --> 00:04:22,926 occurring in her home. 75 00:04:23,066 --> 00:04:27,026 They take samples and promise to return, 76 00:04:27,166 --> 00:04:31,266 but just three days later - another call. 77 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:33,900 This time, it's an emergency. 78 00:04:36,533 --> 00:04:40,073 Whatever is in Jackie's house is on a rampage. 79 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:42,700 The physical attacks have become so violent and 80 00:04:42,834 --> 00:04:48,234 severe she fears for her life. 81 00:04:48,367 --> 00:04:49,467 BARRY TAFF: I was unavailable because my 82 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:50,930 father had a heart attack. 83 00:04:51,066 --> 00:04:54,366 So they were there without me. 84 00:04:54,500 --> 00:04:56,670 NARRATOR: Jackie reports the evil entity is 85 00:04:56,800 --> 00:04:59,930 now in her attic. 86 00:05:00,133 --> 00:05:02,303 It has been tormenting her with strange lights and 87 00:05:02,433 --> 00:05:05,973 ear-shattering banging. 88 00:05:07,233 --> 00:05:09,103 Jeff and Gary decide to investigate. 89 00:05:10,533 --> 00:05:14,273 Nothing could prepare them for what they find. 90 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:16,600 BARRY TAFF: They hear 'ohh' like a yell or a moan 91 00:05:16,734 --> 00:05:19,304 and Gary turned back to see what happened to 92 00:05:19,433 --> 00:05:21,133 Jeff and he couldn't see. 93 00:05:21,266 --> 00:05:23,396 It was too dark in the attic. 94 00:05:23,533 --> 00:05:25,103 NARRATOR: Despite his terror, Gary snaps some 95 00:05:25,233 --> 00:05:28,303 photos in the darkness. 96 00:05:28,433 --> 00:05:31,703 What they reveal will haunt them forever. 97 00:05:31,834 --> 00:05:33,774 BARRY TAFF: You can see that Jeff, a six foot two 98 00:05:33,900 --> 00:05:37,030 man, about two hundred and fifteen pounds, something has 99 00:05:37,166 --> 00:05:39,926 wrapped itself around his neck and it's pulling up, 100 00:05:40,066 --> 00:05:42,996 him up against the rafter and, yet, 101 00:05:43,133 --> 00:05:44,433 there was no one there. 102 00:05:44,567 --> 00:05:46,567 It was Jeff and Gary. 103 00:05:46,700 --> 00:05:49,100 And he cut him down. 104 00:05:49,233 --> 00:05:50,873 He had a rope burn on his neck. 105 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:52,230 It would have killed him. 106 00:05:52,367 --> 00:05:54,067 The question is there was no one else there, so what 107 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:56,670 tried to kill him? 108 00:05:56,800 --> 00:06:00,270 How and why? 109 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:04,270 NARRATOR: Something had tried to murder Jeff Wheatcraft. 110 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:06,970 The investigators leave the house only to make 111 00:06:07,100 --> 00:06:09,500 another chilling discovery. 112 00:06:11,734 --> 00:06:14,404 The forensic lab report on the ooze from Jackie's 113 00:06:14,533 --> 00:06:17,603 walls is in. 114 00:06:17,734 --> 00:06:21,074 BARRY TAFF: The conclusion was it was human blood plasma. 115 00:06:22,467 --> 00:06:24,567 That's something you will lose sleep over literally. 116 00:06:24,700 --> 00:06:26,400 Forget the silly movies that are out there. 117 00:06:26,533 --> 00:06:28,233 This is real. 118 00:06:29,767 --> 00:06:31,427 NARRATOR: Now certain they are dealing with an evil 119 00:06:31,567 --> 00:06:34,767 homicidal phenomenon, they tell Jackie to get out and 120 00:06:34,900 --> 00:06:37,470 never come back. 121 00:06:40,467 --> 00:06:43,327 What was in Jackie Hernandez's house, 122 00:06:43,467 --> 00:06:47,097 and was it out to kill? 123 00:06:47,233 --> 00:06:51,133 Jackie's story became known as The San Pedro Haunting - 124 00:06:51,266 --> 00:06:53,226 one of the most mysterious paranormal 125 00:06:53,367 --> 00:06:56,527 events in history. 126 00:06:56,667 --> 00:07:00,827 But what really happened? 127 00:07:00,967 --> 00:07:05,097 NARRATOR: Javier Ortega is a paranormal researcher. 128 00:07:05,233 --> 00:07:07,633 He has no doubt. 129 00:07:07,767 --> 00:07:09,067 JAVIER ORTEGA: The Jackie Hernandez case is a very 130 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:10,400 extreme case of a haunting. 131 00:07:10,533 --> 00:07:12,033 If somebody dared me to go in the house, I wouldn't 132 00:07:12,166 --> 00:07:15,366 set foot in there. 133 00:07:15,500 --> 00:07:18,370 NARRATOR: Haunting - we've all heard of it but what 134 00:07:18,500 --> 00:07:21,770 does it really mean? 135 00:07:21,900 --> 00:07:23,600 JAVIER ORTEGA: In a haunting it's usually uh 136 00:07:23,734 --> 00:07:25,374 the spirit of a deceased person, the homeowner that 137 00:07:25,500 --> 00:07:27,300 passed away in that house and they were so attached 138 00:07:27,433 --> 00:07:31,503 to the physical object or location that they come back. 139 00:07:31,633 --> 00:07:34,373 NARRATOR: Was Jackie's house haunted by someone 140 00:07:34,500 --> 00:07:35,870 who had died there? 141 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:39,370 Incredibly, the investigation uncovered 142 00:07:39,500 --> 00:07:41,530 something bizarre. 143 00:07:41,667 --> 00:07:43,097 JAVIER ORTEGA: During the investigation of the 144 00:07:43,233 --> 00:07:45,303 Jackie Hernandez case, she reported that her and some 145 00:07:45,433 --> 00:07:48,333 friends were playing with the Ouija board and they 146 00:07:48,467 --> 00:07:51,827 were able to talk with the spirit in the house and 147 00:07:51,967 --> 00:07:54,927 the spirit had told them that he was a marine that 148 00:07:55,066 --> 00:07:56,296 was murdered. 149 00:07:56,433 --> 00:07:58,303 So they went out and they did some research and they 150 00:07:58,433 --> 00:07:59,973 found out that there was a marine named 151 00:08:00,166 --> 00:08:03,226 Herman Hendrickson who was found dead in 1930. 152 00:08:05,266 --> 00:08:06,866 NARRATOR: Was the spirit of a murdered marine 153 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:11,530 responsible for the attacks on Jackie and Wheatcraft? 154 00:08:11,667 --> 00:08:16,067 Does a haunting explain the other things she experienced? 155 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:17,070 JAVIER ORTEGA: A lot of the things that were 156 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:18,870 reported were apparitions. 157 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:20,730 You know, whether it was a disembodied head floating 158 00:08:20,867 --> 00:08:24,167 in the attic or a uh a corpse-like old man 159 00:08:24,300 --> 00:08:27,370 sitting in her child's bed. 160 00:08:27,500 --> 00:08:30,700 Uh she, she also reported seeing strange lights. 161 00:08:30,834 --> 00:08:33,174 They were described as globs of, of luminous light. 162 00:08:33,300 --> 00:08:35,570 Free-floating globs of light have been reported 163 00:08:35,700 --> 00:08:37,900 in haunted places as well. 164 00:08:38,033 --> 00:08:39,473 NARRATOR: But for Ortega, the most compelling 165 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:43,870 evidence of a haunting is that mysterious goo Barry 166 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:46,870 and Jeff found oozing from Jackie's walls. 167 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:48,270 JAVIER ORTEGA: I mean it just sounds so, so 168 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:50,830 bizarre, you know, that you would have human blood 169 00:08:50,967 --> 00:08:52,867 plasma oozing from the walls and when they 170 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:55,530 checked, there wasn't any device that, you know, 171 00:08:55,667 --> 00:08:57,127 that was emitting this substance. 172 00:08:57,266 --> 00:09:00,196 So that to me has to be one of the most compelling 173 00:09:00,333 --> 00:09:02,273 cases in the paranormal. 174 00:09:04,066 --> 00:09:06,266 NARRATOR: Was the marine so angry about being 175 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:10,000 murdered that he bled through Jackie's walls? 176 00:09:10,133 --> 00:09:15,873 Incredibly, Ortega thinks Jackie wasn't the only victim. 177 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:17,070 JAVIER ORTEGA: When Jackie Hernandez left the 178 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:18,970 premise, people who inhabited that home 179 00:09:19,100 --> 00:09:21,500 have also reported strange activities. 180 00:09:21,633 --> 00:09:23,703 If you have the same reports happening year 181 00:09:23,834 --> 00:09:25,934 after year on the same location when there's 182 00:09:26,066 --> 00:09:28,666 different tenants, it usually tends to uh to 183 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:31,130 point towards it being a location haunting. 184 00:09:31,266 --> 00:09:33,996 WILLIAM SHATNER: What an incredible story. 185 00:09:34,133 --> 00:09:36,603 You know I mean strange things happen around my 186 00:09:36,734 --> 00:09:39,874 house too but once I say I'm sorry everything's forgiven. 187 00:09:41,166 --> 00:09:44,866 But human blood dripping from walls and a spirit 188 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:46,530 that is so angry it tries to kill you? 189 00:09:46,667 --> 00:09:50,127 I mean who they gonna call? 190 00:09:50,266 --> 00:09:51,866 Ghostbusters? 191 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:55,070 [chuckles] I've always wanted to say that. 192 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:57,370 [♪] 193 00:09:57,500 --> 00:10:01,700 NARRATOR: Was Jackie Hernandez the victim of a haunting? 194 00:10:01,834 --> 00:10:03,874 Or was it something else? 195 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:06,030 LOYD AUERBACH: It does not appear that the house 196 00:10:06,166 --> 00:10:08,766 would fit the classic haunting. 197 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:17,700 NARRATOR: A terrified woman reports extreme 198 00:10:17,834 --> 00:10:20,334 paranormal events in her home - weird lights, 199 00:10:20,467 --> 00:10:23,097 strange noises, even physical attacks. 200 00:10:23,233 --> 00:10:27,273 Did Jackie Hernandez live in a haunted house? 201 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:28,830 LOYD AUERBACH: It does not appear that the house 202 00:10:28,967 --> 00:10:32,027 would fit the classic haunting. 203 00:10:32,166 --> 00:10:35,196 NARRATOR: Loyd Auerbach is a paranormal investigator. 204 00:10:35,333 --> 00:10:39,173 He believes the answer isn't ghosts at all. 205 00:10:39,300 --> 00:10:40,470 LOYD AUERBACH: Knowing what I know about the 206 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:43,530 Jackie Hernandez case, it seemed that she herself 207 00:10:43,667 --> 00:10:45,327 was a poltergeist agent. 208 00:10:45,467 --> 00:10:46,867 NARRATOR: Poltergeist? 209 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:49,200 Isn't that just a hyperactive ghost? 210 00:10:49,333 --> 00:10:51,373 Or is there a difference? 211 00:10:51,500 --> 00:10:52,600 LOYD AUERBACH: What we learned in the last 212 00:10:52,734 --> 00:10:54,434 hundred years is that these things relate 213 00:10:54,567 --> 00:10:57,567 typically not to ghost sightings, not to 214 00:10:57,700 --> 00:11:00,630 hauntings per se, not to a place being haunted but to 215 00:11:00,767 --> 00:11:03,567 a person, an individual in this situation, who is 216 00:11:03,700 --> 00:11:06,130 typically stressed or otherwise put upon. 217 00:11:06,266 --> 00:11:08,696 NARRATOR: Many now believe poltergeists are not 218 00:11:08,834 --> 00:11:10,974 ghosts but a manifestation of something called 219 00:11:11,100 --> 00:11:12,970 psychokinesis. 220 00:11:13,100 --> 00:11:15,070 LOYD AUERBACH: We call it PK for short and it's the 221 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:17,200 idea that the mind can directly interact or 222 00:11:17,333 --> 00:11:19,573 affect matter and energy. 223 00:11:19,700 --> 00:11:21,130 We typically think of it in the paranormal world as 224 00:11:21,266 --> 00:11:23,266 affecting things outside your body, whether it be 225 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:24,870 moving objects, what people often call 226 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:28,430 telekinesis, or bending metal or even healing. 227 00:11:28,567 --> 00:11:31,097 NARRATOR: Was Jackie Hernandez herself causing 228 00:11:31,233 --> 00:11:32,873 the weird phenomenon in her own house? 229 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:34,230 If so, why? 230 00:11:34,367 --> 00:11:37,097 And for that matter, how? 231 00:11:37,233 --> 00:11:39,603 LOYD AUERBACH: Certain people, their unconscious 232 00:11:39,734 --> 00:11:40,904 minds let loose. 233 00:11:41,033 --> 00:11:43,503 I mean we see people who are stressed out, who are 234 00:11:43,633 --> 00:11:46,503 put upon in society in really expressing that 235 00:11:46,633 --> 00:11:47,833 stress in different ways. 236 00:11:47,967 --> 00:11:51,397 Some people get enraged and they break things, 237 00:11:51,533 --> 00:11:55,003 some people shoot people, some people keep it 238 00:11:55,133 --> 00:11:57,033 bottled up and it can explode in kind of a 239 00:11:57,166 --> 00:11:59,526 different direction for certain individuals, 240 00:11:59,667 --> 00:12:01,267 which is a psychokinetic direction. 241 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:03,930 And we call those situations where there's stress, 242 00:12:04,066 --> 00:12:06,726 think of it as an unconscious temper tantrum. 243 00:12:06,867 --> 00:12:09,367 NARRATOR: Was Jackie's unconscious mind throwing 244 00:12:09,500 --> 00:12:10,870 a temper tantrum? 245 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:12,870 And if so, why? 246 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:15,930 It could be due to the fact she was experiencing 247 00:12:16,066 --> 00:12:18,366 emotional issues at the time, following a 248 00:12:18,500 --> 00:12:19,870 difficult divorce. 249 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:21,300 LOYD AUERBACH: There was enough going on in her 250 00:12:21,433 --> 00:12:23,303 life and frankly enough psychological issues that 251 00:12:23,433 --> 00:12:25,933 would indicate that she was responsible for most 252 00:12:26,066 --> 00:12:28,066 of the phenomena that was happening. 253 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:31,530 In most poltergeist cases, people rarely ever think 254 00:12:31,667 --> 00:12:33,997 of themselves as the agent. 255 00:12:34,133 --> 00:12:35,533 NARRATOR: According to Auerbach, the most 256 00:12:35,667 --> 00:12:38,627 compelling argument that Jackie was both the victim 257 00:12:38,767 --> 00:12:41,927 and the problem is what happened when she moved 258 00:12:42,066 --> 00:12:44,166 six hundred kilometers away. 259 00:12:44,300 --> 00:12:47,430 Incredibly, the vicious paranormal attacks 260 00:12:47,567 --> 00:12:50,797 on her continued. 261 00:12:51,967 --> 00:12:53,367 LOYD AUERBACH: In poltergeist cases when 262 00:12:53,500 --> 00:12:55,500 people move, the phenomena follows them because it's 263 00:12:55,633 --> 00:12:58,203 coming from them and that also happened in that 264 00:12:58,333 --> 00:12:59,703 particular case. 265 00:12:59,834 --> 00:13:02,474 NARRATOR: But if Jackie was her own poltergeist, 266 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:04,870 how is it that the new tenants also reported 267 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:07,370 paranormal attacks? 268 00:13:07,500 --> 00:13:09,000 LOYD AUERBACH: We've had cases where people have 269 00:13:09,133 --> 00:13:11,233 heard about the case and have gone home and because 270 00:13:11,367 --> 00:13:13,567 they're so freaked out by the situation they start 271 00:13:13,700 --> 00:13:14,800 witnessing things. 272 00:13:14,934 --> 00:13:16,204 That has happened. 273 00:13:16,333 --> 00:13:18,403 So you can think of it almost like a contagious idea. 274 00:13:18,533 --> 00:13:21,033 It is possible that it was a haunted house. 275 00:13:21,166 --> 00:13:22,496 It is possible there was an entity there. 276 00:13:22,633 --> 00:13:24,433 We can't completely exclude that, but it best 277 00:13:24,567 --> 00:13:27,767 fit the poltergeist model. 278 00:13:27,900 --> 00:13:29,200 NARRATOR: Could it be that Jackie herself was 279 00:13:29,333 --> 00:13:31,673 responsible for the weird goings on? 280 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:34,400 Or were they the result of an altogether different 281 00:13:34,533 --> 00:13:38,673 kind of bad vibe? 282 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:41,170 Professor John Huntington believes the Jackie 283 00:13:41,300 --> 00:13:44,070 Hernandez case can be explained by undetectable 284 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:48,170 audio waves known as infrasound. 285 00:13:48,300 --> 00:13:51,530 JOHN HUNTINGTON: Sound is just the vibration in air pressure. 286 00:13:51,667 --> 00:13:53,597 That's how we perceive it, and that's how it gets 287 00:13:53,734 --> 00:13:54,934 into your ear. 288 00:13:55,066 --> 00:13:57,966 Infrasound is below the range that we can hear as 289 00:13:58,100 --> 00:14:00,300 an audible sound. 290 00:14:00,433 --> 00:14:02,603 NARRATOR: Human ears can't detect ultra low 291 00:14:02,734 --> 00:14:04,074 frequencies. 292 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:07,100 If it's below twenty hertz, you can't hear it. 293 00:14:07,233 --> 00:14:08,873 JOHN HUNTINGTON: Your body makes lots of sounds down 294 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:11,330 at very low frequencies such as your heartbeat, 295 00:14:11,467 --> 00:14:13,627 the movement of your blood, breath noise coming 296 00:14:13,767 --> 00:14:15,527 in and out of your body. 297 00:14:15,667 --> 00:14:18,367 If we could hear all that it would drive us crazy 298 00:14:18,500 --> 00:14:19,800 but we're still being affected by it. 299 00:14:19,934 --> 00:14:22,934 The sound wave is still impinging on our bodies. 300 00:14:23,066 --> 00:14:25,126 NARRATOR: But other than our own bodies, what might 301 00:14:25,266 --> 00:14:27,596 cause these low frequencies? 302 00:14:27,734 --> 00:14:28,934 JOHN HUNTINGTON: Manmade sources of infrasound 303 00:14:29,066 --> 00:14:31,566 could be anything from a piece of air handling 304 00:14:31,700 --> 00:14:35,770 equipment in a building, anything like a train, a truck. 305 00:14:35,900 --> 00:14:37,630 Anything that's big stuff that's moving could 306 00:14:37,767 --> 00:14:40,527 generate these very low, low frequency sounds. 307 00:14:40,667 --> 00:14:43,467 NARRATOR: Incredibly, Huntington believes low 308 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:46,130 frequency sound waves could have caused 309 00:14:46,266 --> 00:14:50,366 Jackie Hernandez's unpleasant experiences. 310 00:14:51,700 --> 00:14:52,930 JOHN HUNTINGTON: So in addition to things like 311 00:14:53,066 --> 00:14:54,526 headaches and nausea being caused by exposure to 312 00:14:54,667 --> 00:14:57,767 infrasound, there have been some reports of 313 00:14:57,900 --> 00:15:01,100 feeling a presence or some sort of hallucination or 314 00:15:01,233 --> 00:15:04,373 feeling like strange things are going on in the room. 315 00:15:04,500 --> 00:15:07,370 NARRATOR: Can infrasound exposure mimic the 316 00:15:07,500 --> 00:15:09,700 experience of a haunting? 317 00:15:09,834 --> 00:15:11,074 JOHN HUNTINGTON: In-infrasound could 318 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:13,230 possibly cause something like a hallucination or an 319 00:15:13,367 --> 00:15:16,227 apparition or some other things like that based on 320 00:15:16,367 --> 00:15:20,667 the vibration of the sound wave actually affecting the eye. 321 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:22,470 The eye itself could resonate or get a very 322 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:25,600 strong sort of vibration and that could cause 323 00:15:25,734 --> 00:15:28,134 blurring of vision or possible issues around the 324 00:15:28,266 --> 00:15:29,366 periphery of the vision. 325 00:15:29,500 --> 00:15:32,830 Those things coupled with already being in sort of 326 00:15:32,967 --> 00:15:35,467 a, a spooky location, being on edge by the 327 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:38,000 infrasound, could certainly cause some sort 328 00:15:38,133 --> 00:15:40,903 of ghostly experiences. 329 00:15:41,033 --> 00:15:44,073 NARRATOR: Could Huntington's theory be correct? 330 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:46,230 Does the paranormal activity witnessed in 331 00:15:46,367 --> 00:15:50,327 San Pedro have a rational explanation? 332 00:15:50,467 --> 00:15:54,997 And does it explain human plasma oozing from the wall? 333 00:15:55,133 --> 00:15:57,803 Was Jackie's home haunted? 334 00:15:57,934 --> 00:16:01,034 Or was she her own poltergeist? 335 00:16:01,166 --> 00:16:08,526 Whatever the answer, this story is certainly Weird or What. 336 00:16:08,667 --> 00:16:18,627 [♪] 337 00:16:22,734 --> 00:16:24,774 NARRATOR: A Connecticut housewife is tortured, 338 00:16:24,900 --> 00:16:26,870 from within. 339 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:29,430 Has she been possessed by an evil spirit? 340 00:16:29,567 --> 00:16:32,667 JOHN KOERNER: Demons like to attack good people. 341 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:42,070 WILLIAM SHATNER: Many of us have experienced events 342 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:45,330 that we would call paranormal but in fact are 343 00:16:45,467 --> 00:16:48,767 just things that are harmless and easily 344 00:16:48,900 --> 00:16:52,470 explained, but what is the paranormal? 345 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:54,000 And does it exist? 346 00:16:54,133 --> 00:16:58,433 Even the name is a little, well, weird and scary. 347 00:16:58,567 --> 00:17:01,797 Here's the way it's described in the dictionary. 348 00:17:01,934 --> 00:17:04,974 Paranormal: the claimed occurrence of an event 349 00:17:05,100 --> 00:17:07,400 without scientific explanation... 350 00:17:09,934 --> 00:17:11,904 [sighs] 351 00:17:12,033 --> 00:17:17,373 as psychokinesis... 352 00:17:17,500 --> 00:17:20,500 [sighs] 353 00:17:20,633 --> 00:17:21,873 ...extrasensory 354 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:25,100 perception of other purportedly 355 00:17:25,233 --> 00:17:27,933 supernatural phenomena. 356 00:17:28,066 --> 00:17:30,396 All right, come on, that's it. Out. 357 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:36,600 You can fool some - oh boy oh boy. 358 00:17:39,266 --> 00:17:42,966 But some people experience paranormal events that are real 359 00:17:43,100 --> 00:17:44,870 - so real in fact they're deadly. 360 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:48,530 Weird - or what? 361 00:17:50,633 --> 00:17:52,303 NARRATOR: History professor John Koerner 362 00:17:52,433 --> 00:17:55,103 studies reports of paranormal activity. 363 00:17:55,233 --> 00:17:59,133 None have haunted him more than the story of Patricia Reading. 364 00:18:00,734 --> 00:18:02,334 JOHN KOERNER: By all accounts she was a good person. 365 00:18:02,467 --> 00:18:04,127 I mean there's nothing you can see in her past that 366 00:18:04,266 --> 00:18:07,196 would indicate why this happens to her. 367 00:18:09,333 --> 00:18:11,133 NARRATOR: In 1992, Patricia's life took a 368 00:18:11,266 --> 00:18:13,966 terrifying turn. 369 00:18:14,100 --> 00:18:16,200 Doing chores around her home in Litchfield, 370 00:18:16,333 --> 00:18:20,203 Connecticut, she suddenly hears a terrifying voice. 371 00:18:20,333 --> 00:18:24,133 [distorted voice] 372 00:18:24,266 --> 00:18:25,826 JOHN KOERNER: She felt what she thought was an 373 00:18:25,967 --> 00:18:29,197 evil presence that was around her. 374 00:18:29,333 --> 00:18:31,173 There was nothing that could explain this. 375 00:18:31,300 --> 00:18:33,000 NARRATOR: Patricia tries to brush it off, but the 376 00:18:33,133 --> 00:18:35,333 eerie voice won't stop. 377 00:18:35,467 --> 00:18:37,567 Ever. 378 00:18:37,700 --> 00:18:39,170 [distorted voice] 379 00:18:39,300 --> 00:18:42,670 It's the beginning of a horrifying ordeal. 380 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:44,400 [distorted voice] 381 00:18:44,533 --> 00:18:45,873 PATRICIA: Stop! 382 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:48,070 JOHN KOERNER: The situation got much, much worse. 383 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:49,670 Pat had a number of things that were happening to her 384 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:51,700 that were very unusual. 385 00:18:51,834 --> 00:18:54,204 There were bite marks on the back of her neck, 386 00:18:54,333 --> 00:18:56,003 bruises on the back of her body, things she could not 387 00:18:56,133 --> 00:18:59,073 do by herself. 388 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:00,500 NARRATOR: What could be inflicting Patricia's 389 00:19:00,633 --> 00:19:03,473 vicious bruises and other injuries? 390 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:06,330 It's a frightening and bizarre mystery. 391 00:19:06,467 --> 00:19:10,227 Devastated and disturbed, she seeks help. 392 00:19:10,367 --> 00:19:12,467 JOHN KOERNER: The family took Patricia Reading to 393 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:15,200 the hospital to local doctors. 394 00:19:15,333 --> 00:19:16,973 They ruled out all of the conditions that could 395 00:19:17,100 --> 00:19:20,270 possibly be affecting her. 396 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:23,000 NARRATOR: With no medical explanation, Patricia 397 00:19:23,133 --> 00:19:27,703 resorts to hoping her problems will simply go away. 398 00:19:27,834 --> 00:19:28,874 JOHN KOERNER: But then things started getting 399 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:30,100 much worse after that. 400 00:19:30,233 --> 00:19:32,803 [maniacal laughter] 401 00:19:32,934 --> 00:19:35,404 JOHN KOERNER: She was knocked over horribly. 402 00:19:35,533 --> 00:19:37,773 She did not know what is happening. 403 00:19:37,900 --> 00:19:40,670 NARRATOR: Again and again, a seemingly evil presence 404 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:43,370 hurls her into the wall. 405 00:19:43,500 --> 00:19:44,670 JOHN KOERNER: These are things that never could 406 00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:48,230 happen to Pat Reading in a normal situation. 407 00:19:48,367 --> 00:19:50,167 She is not herself. 408 00:19:50,300 --> 00:19:52,730 She's becoming someone else. 409 00:19:52,867 --> 00:19:56,127 NARRATOR: Fearing for her safety, Patricia has only 410 00:19:56,266 --> 00:19:59,726 one place to turn. 411 00:19:59,867 --> 00:20:01,327 JOHN KOERNER: At that point the Catholic church 412 00:20:01,467 --> 00:20:02,927 got involved. 413 00:20:03,066 --> 00:20:05,496 NARRATOR: Patricia's bishop takes her claims seriously. 414 00:20:05,633 --> 00:20:09,403 After an examination, he reaches an incredible 415 00:20:09,533 --> 00:20:10,833 conclusion. 416 00:20:10,967 --> 00:20:12,567 JOHN KOERNER: He did make the diagnosis, yes, she is 417 00:20:12,700 --> 00:20:14,970 possessed. 418 00:20:15,100 --> 00:20:17,700 Demons like to attack good people. 419 00:20:19,166 --> 00:20:20,426 NARRATOR: There's only one solution, an ancient 420 00:20:20,567 --> 00:20:24,727 ritual as old as the church itself. 421 00:20:24,867 --> 00:20:27,697 The bishop decides he will perform an exorcism. 422 00:20:29,734 --> 00:20:31,634 JOHN KOERNER: He called upon a demon to reveal 423 00:20:31,767 --> 00:20:34,427 himself and say who you are, reveal yourself in 424 00:20:34,567 --> 00:20:36,997 the name Jesus Christ. 425 00:20:37,133 --> 00:20:39,833 NARRATOR: At first, the demon stays hidden. 426 00:20:39,967 --> 00:20:41,797 But not for long. 427 00:20:41,934 --> 00:20:50,834 [moans, speaking in tongues] 428 00:20:50,967 --> 00:20:52,127 JOHN KOERNER: She was speaking in a language 429 00:20:52,266 --> 00:20:54,566 that she could not speak in normally, trying to 430 00:20:54,700 --> 00:20:57,830 insult the priest, insult his family, things that 431 00:20:57,967 --> 00:21:00,397 she never would have done on her own. 432 00:21:00,533 --> 00:21:02,133 These are pretty clear signs you're dealing with 433 00:21:02,266 --> 00:21:05,226 a, an evil entity inside the person's body. 434 00:21:05,367 --> 00:21:07,527 NARRATOR: Having forced the demon into the open, 435 00:21:07,667 --> 00:21:09,997 the real battle begins. 436 00:21:10,133 --> 00:21:12,273 JOHN KOERNER: Things like holy objects, this often 437 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:13,500 can anger the demon. 438 00:21:13,633 --> 00:21:17,073 These are tools in a war that can cause them to be 439 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:18,500 so upset. 440 00:21:18,633 --> 00:21:22,533 The words of Christ makes them so angry, so it has 441 00:21:22,667 --> 00:21:24,527 to be said over and over again. 442 00:21:24,667 --> 00:21:27,067 It's a war of attrition. 443 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:30,370 NARRATOR: The battle rages for hours. 444 00:21:30,500 --> 00:21:33,330 At long last, something breaks. 445 00:21:33,467 --> 00:21:35,497 JOHN KOERNER: The demons, they'll get so upset they 446 00:21:35,633 --> 00:21:37,973 just can't take this any longer and they'll go 447 00:21:38,100 --> 00:21:39,070 somewhere else. 448 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:41,600 They'll go bother somebody else. 449 00:21:41,734 --> 00:21:43,834 NARRATOR: The exhausting battle ends with the 450 00:21:43,967 --> 00:21:48,327 demons on the run, but before long they're back. 451 00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:50,930 JOHN KOERNER: Evil is real. 452 00:21:51,066 --> 00:21:54,696 It can affect someone in some horrible ways. 453 00:21:54,834 --> 00:21:58,004 NARRATOR: Sadly, Patricia runs out of time. 454 00:21:58,133 --> 00:22:03,033 After sixteen exorcisms, in 2005 she dies of cancer 455 00:22:03,166 --> 00:22:06,296 believed to be caused by her demons. 456 00:22:06,433 --> 00:22:07,973 [distorted voice] 457 00:22:08,100 --> 00:22:11,500 Incredibly, Patricia's story is far from the only one. 458 00:22:11,633 --> 00:22:17,033 An estimated 15,000 exorcisms are performed each year. 459 00:22:17,166 --> 00:22:21,166 Can evil really live inside us? 460 00:22:21,300 --> 00:22:25,130 Or is there some other way to explain demonic possession? 461 00:22:28,100 --> 00:22:30,500 Christopher Rosik is a psychologist. 462 00:22:30,633 --> 00:22:34,973 He says he knows exactly what happened to Patricia Reading. 463 00:22:35,100 --> 00:22:36,570 CHRISTOPHER ROSIK: Coming from a religious 464 00:22:36,700 --> 00:22:38,230 perspective you might assume that this must be 465 00:22:38,367 --> 00:22:42,427 a, a demonic presence but as a psychologist my 466 00:22:42,567 --> 00:22:48,097 diagnosis would be dissociative identity disorder. 467 00:22:48,233 --> 00:22:50,603 NARRATOR: Better known as a split personality, 468 00:22:50,734 --> 00:22:53,534 Disassociative Identity Disorder is when two or 469 00:22:53,667 --> 00:22:57,467 more personalities inhabit one mind. 470 00:22:58,934 --> 00:23:01,204 An abusive childhood can sometimes cause such a 471 00:23:01,333 --> 00:23:03,073 psychological break. 472 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:04,800 One personality becomes the happy face, the person 473 00:23:04,934 --> 00:23:07,074 the world sees. 474 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:09,500 The other deals with all the hidden pain, shame 475 00:23:09,633 --> 00:23:11,373 and suffering. 476 00:23:11,500 --> 00:23:12,800 CHRISTOPHER ROSIK: The primary personality is 477 00:23:12,934 --> 00:23:16,134 unaware of the other personality. 478 00:23:16,266 --> 00:23:19,026 They might hear voices and these sort of signs but 479 00:23:19,166 --> 00:23:20,366 they don't know what it's about. 480 00:23:22,066 --> 00:23:25,326 NARRATOR: Were the demonic voices Patricia heard 481 00:23:25,467 --> 00:23:26,867 really the screams of a tortured second 482 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:28,330 personality? 483 00:23:28,467 --> 00:23:30,067 PATRICIA: Stop. 484 00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:32,570 NARRATOR: Could it have even tried to hurt her? 485 00:23:36,133 --> 00:23:38,073 CHRISTOPHER ROSIK: I had a patient who would end up 486 00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:40,970 in a graveyard with a blade in her hand and 487 00:23:41,100 --> 00:23:45,100 having cut her arm. 488 00:23:45,233 --> 00:23:47,773 NARRATOR: Is a self-destructive alter ego 489 00:23:47,900 --> 00:23:52,870 responsible for Patricia's injuries? 490 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:57,530 Can psychology explain the power of an exorcism? 491 00:23:57,667 --> 00:23:59,367 CHRISTOPHER ROSIK: The prayer, the ritual has in 492 00:23:59,500 --> 00:24:01,700 fact just served to rearrange these separate 493 00:24:01,834 --> 00:24:05,874 identities such that they have receded from the 494 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:08,170 host's awareness. 495 00:24:08,300 --> 00:24:09,870 They don't hear the voice anymore. 496 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:11,670 Then what I experience happening with some 497 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:15,900 patients is that maybe weeks or months later the 498 00:24:16,033 --> 00:24:17,873 voices come back. 499 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:19,700 Everything I'm saying here is in no way meant to 500 00:24:19,834 --> 00:24:26,774 malign the value of religious spiritual care 501 00:24:26,900 --> 00:24:29,100 but there are some psychological ways of 502 00:24:29,233 --> 00:24:31,303 understanding these experiences that really 503 00:24:31,433 --> 00:24:33,303 should be taken into account. 504 00:24:36,467 --> 00:24:38,327 WILLIAM SHATNER: Demonic possession. 505 00:24:38,467 --> 00:24:42,467 Ordinary people suddenly possessed by nasty entities. 506 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:43,600 Ring a bell? 507 00:24:43,734 --> 00:24:45,274 Ah, you know, I've seen all the movies - 508 00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:47,500 Omen 1, 2, 3, the Exorcist - the lot. 509 00:24:47,633 --> 00:24:49,003 And guess what? 510 00:24:49,133 --> 00:24:52,673 Not only do they not scare me but I don't believe them. 511 00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:58,570 [lightning, thunder] 512 00:25:01,066 --> 00:25:03,726 I mean just because it gets a little stormy 513 00:25:03,867 --> 00:25:06,267 doesn't mean the devil is on his way to take over 514 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:08,900 your soul, does it? 515 00:25:09,033 --> 00:25:11,073 And as for all that other ridiculous stuff like 516 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:16,170 twisting heads and speaking in strange tongues 517 00:25:16,300 --> 00:25:21,430 [talks backwards]. 518 00:25:25,333 --> 00:25:31,233 NARRATOR: Is demonic possession all in our heads? 519 00:25:31,367 --> 00:25:34,927 Or is there a more frightening answer? 520 00:25:35,066 --> 00:25:37,866 BOB LARSON: What Satan can do is invade human bodies. 521 00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:48,230 NARRATOR: A Connecticut woman appears to have been 522 00:25:48,367 --> 00:25:50,067 possessed by an evil demon. 523 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:53,130 Could she be suffering from a split personality? 524 00:25:53,266 --> 00:25:58,066 Or is the explanation far more terrifying? 525 00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:03,900 Reverend Bob Larson is not your average man of god. 526 00:26:04,033 --> 00:26:07,433 BOB LARSON: I am, among other things, an exorcist. 527 00:26:07,567 --> 00:26:09,227 NARRATOR: Larson has studied Patricia Reading's 528 00:26:09,367 --> 00:26:12,727 possession and is convinced it was real. 529 00:26:14,333 --> 00:26:16,273 BOB LARSON: There are those who would like to 530 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:20,870 have the public believe that demonic possession is rare. 531 00:26:22,066 --> 00:26:24,896 I can tell you it's not rare. 532 00:26:25,033 --> 00:26:29,973 It'll make a cold chill go up your spine. 533 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:35,300 NARRATOR: Are demons really all around us? 534 00:26:35,433 --> 00:26:36,933 Are they trying to take over the bodies of 535 00:26:37,066 --> 00:26:40,796 innocent humans? 536 00:26:40,934 --> 00:26:42,104 BOB LARSON: The bible teaches that when Satan 537 00:26:42,233 --> 00:26:44,703 was cast out of heaven, a third of the angels 538 00:26:44,834 --> 00:26:48,874 involved in that insurrection were cast out with him. 539 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:50,700 NARRATOR: According to the Book of Revelation, 540 00:26:50,834 --> 00:26:53,704 when Satan lost his war with God he and his followers 541 00:26:53,834 --> 00:26:57,274 were banished to the spirit realm on earth. 542 00:26:57,400 --> 00:27:01,930 BOB LARSON: Satan is now an invisible spirit being. 543 00:27:02,066 --> 00:27:04,596 Satan can't pull the trigger of a gun but what 544 00:27:04,734 --> 00:27:08,134 Satan can do is invade human bodies and those 545 00:27:08,266 --> 00:27:12,466 people then become the instruments of evil. 546 00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:13,870 NARRATOR: Larson believes demonic possession has a 547 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:17,030 firm basis in scripture. 548 00:27:17,166 --> 00:27:19,266 He's also certain that Patricia's condition 549 00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:23,070 wasn't a case of split personality. 550 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:24,870 BOB LARSON: I deal a lot with multiple personality 551 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:26,270 disorder. 552 00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:29,200 I know the difference. 553 00:27:29,333 --> 00:27:32,233 When you see the demon have such utter hatred for 554 00:27:32,367 --> 00:27:37,167 God and religious objects such as the cross, 555 00:27:37,300 --> 00:27:41,830 that aversion means it's something more than psychosis. 556 00:27:41,967 --> 00:27:44,567 That's when you know they are possessed. 557 00:27:44,700 --> 00:27:46,930 NARRATOR: But there's one thing Larson believes is 558 00:27:47,066 --> 00:27:51,696 the ultimate proof of demonic presence. 559 00:27:51,834 --> 00:27:53,734 BOB LARSON: In the Pat Reading case, 560 00:27:53,867 --> 00:27:55,197 she apparently spoke in another language. 561 00:27:55,333 --> 00:27:57,933 I've seen this happen thousands and thousands of times. 562 00:27:58,066 --> 00:27:59,866 I had a woman speak Chinese one time. 563 00:28:00,066 --> 00:28:02,696 I had a fascinating case where a strange language 564 00:28:02,834 --> 00:28:04,734 was being spoken and a college professor with a 565 00:28:04,867 --> 00:28:08,967 PhD in ancient Semitic languages, he said I can 566 00:28:09,100 --> 00:28:13,630 come up and tell you exactly what the voice was saying. 567 00:28:13,767 --> 00:28:16,327 NARRATOR: Could these foreign, even forgotten 568 00:28:16,467 --> 00:28:20,997 languages prove that Satan is carrying on an age-old 569 00:28:21,133 --> 00:28:25,373 war by invading the bodies of humans? 570 00:28:25,500 --> 00:28:27,230 BOB LARSON: To the skeptics who may not 571 00:28:27,367 --> 00:28:29,467 believe in demonic possession, I say travel 572 00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:32,100 with me and meet the thousands of people who 573 00:28:32,233 --> 00:28:33,733 have had exorcisms. 574 00:28:33,867 --> 00:28:37,197 When you see the smile and the glow on the person's 575 00:28:37,333 --> 00:28:40,733 face as they say to you, wow, I didn't know I could 576 00:28:40,867 --> 00:28:44,367 feel like this, something is gone. 577 00:28:44,500 --> 00:28:47,700 That's why I do exorcisms. 578 00:28:47,834 --> 00:28:50,334 NARRATOR: Are exorcisms ultimate proof that 579 00:28:50,467 --> 00:28:54,467 devilish spirits still roam the earth? 580 00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:57,030 Could reports of demonic possession be explained by 581 00:28:57,166 --> 00:28:59,926 a misunderstood mental illness? 582 00:29:00,133 --> 00:29:03,873 Or is everyone simply making it up? 583 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:07,030 Whatever the truth, this mystery is most definitely 584 00:29:07,166 --> 00:29:09,166 weird... 585 00:29:09,300 --> 00:29:11,400 or what? 586 00:29:11,533 --> 00:29:21,503 [♪] 587 00:29:29,133 --> 00:29:31,273 WILLIAM SHATNER: I don't know about you but stories 588 00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:34,100 of ghosts and the paranormal send shivers up my spine. 589 00:29:34,233 --> 00:29:35,433 But that's kinda fun, right? 590 00:29:35,567 --> 00:29:38,067 But do spirits or ghosts or whatever they are 591 00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:39,370 always have to be evil? 592 00:29:39,500 --> 00:29:41,600 Aren't there any friendly dead people out there? 593 00:29:41,734 --> 00:29:42,904 I hope so. 594 00:29:43,033 --> 00:29:46,373 But there's some people who not only enjoy having 595 00:29:46,500 --> 00:29:48,900 ghosts around, they can talk to them whenever they like. 596 00:29:49,033 --> 00:29:50,703 How? 597 00:29:50,834 --> 00:29:53,904 They've got the gift. 598 00:29:56,867 --> 00:29:59,367 NARRATOR: In just about every way, Fae Jackson is 599 00:29:59,500 --> 00:30:01,830 an average teenage girl. 600 00:30:01,967 --> 00:30:03,867 FAE JACKSON: I like to shop and just hang out 601 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:05,800 with my friends. 602 00:30:05,934 --> 00:30:07,674 NARRATOR: While Fae's life appears to be ordinary, 603 00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:10,570 in truth she and her family are dealing with something 604 00:30:10,700 --> 00:30:13,970 so sensitive they've chosen to conceal their 605 00:30:14,100 --> 00:30:16,330 appearance. 606 00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:19,900 LYNN JACKSON: Although it has become part of 607 00:30:20,033 --> 00:30:21,333 everyday life for us, it's still at times 608 00:30:21,467 --> 00:30:23,597 frightening. 609 00:30:23,734 --> 00:30:25,434 NARRATOR: Fae's story began three years ago when 610 00:30:25,567 --> 00:30:26,467 she was ten. 611 00:30:28,533 --> 00:30:33,703 FAE JACKSON: I was sitting in my bedroom on my own. 612 00:30:33,834 --> 00:30:37,574 I could feel a man sitting next to me. 613 00:30:40,300 --> 00:30:41,730 LYNN JACKSON: She could feel like an energy, 614 00:30:41,867 --> 00:30:43,397 like a presence next to her. 615 00:30:45,166 --> 00:30:46,926 FAE JACKSON: And I could just feel his breath in my 616 00:30:47,066 --> 00:30:50,026 ear and it was all warm. 617 00:30:50,166 --> 00:30:52,396 LYNN JACKSON: And then she heard him whispering in her ear. 618 00:30:52,533 --> 00:30:54,073 VOICE: Can you hear me? 619 00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:56,370 FAE JACKSON: Can you hear me? 620 00:30:56,500 --> 00:30:57,870 VOICE: Can you hear me? 621 00:31:00,500 --> 00:31:02,230 NARRATOR: Fae races to her mom. 622 00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:07,470 FAE JACKSON: Like the fear, I just, it was uncontrollable. 623 00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:10,400 I just, it was unexplainable. 624 00:31:10,533 --> 00:31:12,533 LYNN JACKSON: The child was absolutely terrified 625 00:31:12,667 --> 00:31:16,197 and I was scared for her, to be honest. 626 00:31:16,333 --> 00:31:17,933 NARRATOR: When Lynn takes her daughter back to the 627 00:31:18,066 --> 00:31:19,566 room, the man is gone. 628 00:31:22,433 --> 00:31:25,103 But Fae is in no doubt as to what she's experienced. 629 00:31:26,367 --> 00:31:27,967 FAE JACKSON: I saw my first ghost. 630 00:31:29,367 --> 00:31:30,697 NARRATOR: Terrifyingly, Fae's encounter was just 631 00:31:30,834 --> 00:31:31,934 the beginning. 632 00:31:33,834 --> 00:31:36,874 FAE JACKSON: The spirits started regularly visiting me. 633 00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:39,800 They'd only come when I was on my own and when 634 00:31:39,934 --> 00:31:42,974 they did just random spirits would walk into my bedroom. 635 00:31:44,900 --> 00:31:48,130 NARRATOR: Fae is haunted by hundreds of ghosts. 636 00:31:48,266 --> 00:31:51,466 Sometimes she sees as many as five a night. 637 00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:53,070 LYNN JACKSON: Sometimes they just want to show her 638 00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:57,000 how they died, which is a little bit grim at times 639 00:31:57,133 --> 00:31:59,633 and she's only thirteen. 640 00:31:59,767 --> 00:32:04,597 NARRATOR: The ghosts begin getting bolder. 641 00:32:04,734 --> 00:32:06,874 LYNN JACKSON: There was an instant when her bed was shook, 642 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:10,400 which completely terrified me. 643 00:32:10,533 --> 00:32:12,033 FAE JACKSON: I just felt like I was being attacked. 644 00:32:12,166 --> 00:32:13,466 It was horrible. 645 00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:15,870 It was, felt really dangerous and I felt like 646 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:17,330 I was on my own. 647 00:32:18,834 --> 00:32:19,604 LYNN JACKSON: That was when I knew we had to do 648 00:32:19,734 --> 00:32:21,504 something about it. 649 00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:25,970 NARRATOR: At her wits' end, Lynn seeks 650 00:32:26,100 --> 00:32:27,670 professional advice. 651 00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:30,370 LYNN JACKSON: We got lots of help from local mediums 652 00:32:30,500 --> 00:32:33,170 who understood what was happening. 653 00:32:33,300 --> 00:32:34,700 NARRATOR: Far from seeing it as something 654 00:32:34,834 --> 00:32:37,104 frightening, the mediums tell them Fae's ability to 655 00:32:37,233 --> 00:32:40,503 see and connect with the dead is a gift, and a very 656 00:32:40,633 --> 00:32:43,233 rare one at that. 657 00:32:43,367 --> 00:32:46,227 LYNN JACKSON: They taught Fae techniques that she 658 00:32:46,367 --> 00:32:49,867 could use to take more of a control over her gift 659 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:52,200 and to see it as a gift, really. 660 00:32:53,867 --> 00:32:55,527 NARRATOR: With the help of psychic mediums, 661 00:32:55,667 --> 00:32:59,327 the support of her mother and lots of hard work, 662 00:32:59,467 --> 00:33:04,267 Fae finally mastered her gift. 663 00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:06,530 FAE JACKSON: It's like I have two lives: Like I 664 00:33:06,667 --> 00:33:09,267 live one life where I'm just a normal girl and 665 00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:13,400 then other times I can talk to spirits. 666 00:33:13,533 --> 00:33:15,133 So it's really quite exciting. 667 00:33:20,066 --> 00:33:22,626 WILLIAM SHATNER: I see dead people. 668 00:33:22,767 --> 00:33:24,427 That's something else I've always wanted to say, 669 00:33:24,567 --> 00:33:26,197 but I can't 'cause I don't. 670 00:33:26,333 --> 00:33:27,533 Well not when I'm sober anyway. 671 00:33:27,667 --> 00:33:31,627 But incredibly, it may be because I'm an adult. 672 00:33:31,767 --> 00:33:33,967 You see, Fae isn't alone. 673 00:33:34,100 --> 00:33:36,200 Millions of other children see dead people too. 674 00:33:36,333 --> 00:33:37,473 How? 675 00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:40,370 Do they possess a special power, a sixth sense? 676 00:33:40,500 --> 00:33:45,730 And is it a gift - or a curse? 677 00:33:45,867 --> 00:33:48,467 Weird or what? 678 00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:00,930 NARRATOR: Thirteen-year-old Fae Jackson 679 00:34:01,066 --> 00:34:02,796 claims she can see ghosts. 680 00:34:02,934 --> 00:34:07,534 Do children possess the gift? 681 00:34:07,667 --> 00:34:10,467 Who better to ask about children who see ghosts 682 00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:16,800 than Caron Goode, author of 'Children Who See Ghosts.' 683 00:34:16,934 --> 00:34:19,274 CARON GOODE: To discover that children see ghosts 684 00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:25,100 and talk with ghosts, to me it was exciting. 685 00:34:25,233 --> 00:34:26,603 NARRATOR: After more than twenty-five years 686 00:34:26,734 --> 00:34:30,104 researching the special abilities of young minds, 687 00:34:30,233 --> 00:34:34,373 Goode has reached an incredible conclusion. 688 00:34:34,500 --> 00:34:36,130 CARON GOODE: Children are more predisposed to see 689 00:34:36,266 --> 00:34:38,996 ghosts than adults are primarily because of their 690 00:34:39,133 --> 00:34:41,633 brain power. 691 00:34:41,767 --> 00:34:44,197 The sixth sense begins to develop in children 692 00:34:44,333 --> 00:34:46,933 between the ages of eighteen months all the 693 00:34:47,066 --> 00:34:51,096 way up through five to six years and the reason is 694 00:34:51,233 --> 00:34:53,803 because their, their brain is going through a 695 00:34:53,934 --> 00:34:57,874 tremendous growth spurt. 696 00:34:58,000 --> 00:34:58,770 NARRATOR: We've all heard of the sixth sense but 697 00:34:58,900 --> 00:35:00,400 what is it? 698 00:35:00,533 --> 00:35:04,603 What does it do that your other five can't? 699 00:35:04,734 --> 00:35:06,574 CARON GOODE: When I discuss with the parent, 700 00:35:06,700 --> 00:35:09,730 for example, what is the sixth sense I explain it 701 00:35:09,867 --> 00:35:13,127 to a parent as being intuitive intelligence. 702 00:35:13,266 --> 00:35:17,366 Some people have a heightened intuition. 703 00:35:17,500 --> 00:35:21,400 NARRATOR: But where does this sixth sense come from? 704 00:35:21,533 --> 00:35:23,433 Is it a gift only bestowed on some? 705 00:35:23,567 --> 00:35:28,067 Remarkably, Goode believes it's an ability that's 706 00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:30,300 within us all. 707 00:35:30,433 --> 00:35:33,133 CARON GOODE: The pineal gland is located within 708 00:35:33,266 --> 00:35:38,766 the brain which actually regulates light within our body. 709 00:35:38,900 --> 00:35:41,770 I believe the pineal gland can be a doorway to the 710 00:35:41,900 --> 00:35:44,030 sixth sense. 711 00:35:44,166 --> 00:35:46,466 NARRATOR: But if we all have the ability to access 712 00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:50,300 our sixth sense, why do so few children maintain this 713 00:35:50,433 --> 00:35:55,103 power into adulthood? 714 00:35:56,367 --> 00:35:58,197 CARON GOODE: As the hormones change, children 715 00:35:58,333 --> 00:36:03,203 go through brain wave shifts, mood shifts and 716 00:36:03,333 --> 00:36:08,073 that's the time logic develops and children may 717 00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:11,200 turn away from their intuition, their feelings. 718 00:36:12,500 --> 00:36:14,570 If children have not been encouraged in their 719 00:36:14,700 --> 00:36:18,800 imagination, in their conversations and sixth 720 00:36:18,934 --> 00:36:22,874 sense development, it can shut down when cognition 721 00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:25,130 sets in. 722 00:36:25,266 --> 00:36:28,026 NARRATOR: Do children's growing brains give them 723 00:36:28,166 --> 00:36:29,926 a sixth sense? 724 00:36:30,066 --> 00:36:32,866 Should a child's ghost sightings be encouraged? 725 00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:37,730 Do kids like Fae really have the gift? 726 00:36:40,533 --> 00:36:42,273 JACK ROURKE: My initial reaction to reading the article 727 00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:48,330 about Fae uh was quite honestly is I wasn't impressed. 728 00:36:48,467 --> 00:36:50,927 NARRATOR: Psychic Jack Rourke is an expert in 729 00:36:51,066 --> 00:36:53,066 parapsychology. 730 00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:55,770 Experience has taught him that a far more mundane 731 00:36:55,900 --> 00:37:01,330 explanation may be at work or, rather, at home. 732 00:37:03,033 --> 00:37:04,803 JACK ROURKE: There is a phenomena called 733 00:37:04,934 --> 00:37:08,274 parentizing where in essence there's a bit of a 734 00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:11,430 role reversal where a child can sometimes become 735 00:37:11,567 --> 00:37:13,527 the caretaker of the parent or become the 736 00:37:13,667 --> 00:37:16,367 mirror to the parent. 737 00:37:16,500 --> 00:37:18,730 NARRATOR: Rourke believes that through parentizing children 738 00:37:18,867 --> 00:37:23,627 can be actively encouraged to say they see ghosts. 739 00:37:24,900 --> 00:37:26,800 JACK ROURKE: The more positive reinforcement a 740 00:37:26,934 --> 00:37:30,374 child gets from their parent that they are special, 741 00:37:30,500 --> 00:37:33,830 that they are extra-sensitive, that they 742 00:37:33,967 --> 00:37:36,227 have special empathic or intuitive abilities, 743 00:37:36,367 --> 00:37:40,197 the more the child then believes they're psychic 744 00:37:40,333 --> 00:37:41,933 and I'll give you an example of how this is done. 745 00:37:43,367 --> 00:37:44,727 A child wakes up in the middle of the night from a 746 00:37:44,867 --> 00:37:48,127 horrible dream and is talking about ghosts 747 00:37:48,266 --> 00:37:50,996 chasing them and things like this. 748 00:37:51,133 --> 00:37:53,403 You come in as the parent and say no you're wrong. 749 00:37:53,533 --> 00:37:55,473 That didn't happen. 750 00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:58,230 You lose the ability to comfort the child because 751 00:37:58,367 --> 00:38:00,827 they've been made wrong. 752 00:38:00,967 --> 00:38:03,927 Now I go into the room, same scenario and I say 753 00:38:04,066 --> 00:38:05,226 oh you saw a ghost didn't you? 754 00:38:05,367 --> 00:38:07,467 Yes. 755 00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:08,670 This is how it's done. 756 00:38:10,633 --> 00:38:12,573 NARRATOR: But why would a child like Fae go along 757 00:38:12,700 --> 00:38:14,970 with the idea of seeing ghosts? 758 00:38:16,100 --> 00:38:18,830 What's in it for her? 759 00:38:18,967 --> 00:38:20,227 JACK ROURKE: The specialness of the child 760 00:38:20,367 --> 00:38:22,767 in these circumstances gives the child permission 761 00:38:22,900 --> 00:38:25,670 to commiserate with the parent. 762 00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:27,070 They become their emotional partner. 763 00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:29,070 Um they go to activities together. 764 00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:32,600 They may go to certain psychic functions and this 765 00:38:32,734 --> 00:38:34,604 unique relationship becomes a reward to the 766 00:38:34,734 --> 00:38:38,674 child and in order to maintain that closeness 767 00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:41,430 with their parent, they have to maintain the 768 00:38:41,567 --> 00:38:43,367 psychic identity. 769 00:38:43,500 --> 00:38:47,270 GHOST: Can you hear me? Can you hear me? [echoes] 770 00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:50,000 NARRATOR: Are children who see ghosts merely playing 771 00:38:50,133 --> 00:38:53,673 out a fantasy with the encouragement of their parents? 772 00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:56,430 Is there nothing special about them at all? 773 00:38:56,567 --> 00:39:01,527 Does the gift exist in children at all? 774 00:39:01,667 --> 00:39:04,697 JOSHUA WARREN: A person like Fae may be capable of 775 00:39:04,834 --> 00:39:11,004 seeing ghosts because she has some physiological advantage. 776 00:39:20,300 --> 00:39:22,330 NARRATOR: Thousands of children across the globe 777 00:39:22,467 --> 00:39:26,267 claim they can see dead people. 778 00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:33,070 Do they have an extra special sense known as the gift? 779 00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:36,030 Paranormal investigator Joshua P. Warren 780 00:39:36,166 --> 00:39:37,826 believes there could be a medical 781 00:39:37,967 --> 00:39:41,367 explanation for this phenomena. 782 00:39:41,500 --> 00:39:44,500 JOSHUA WARREN: A person like Fae may be capable of 783 00:39:44,633 --> 00:39:50,033 seeing ghosts because she has some physiological 784 00:39:50,166 --> 00:39:54,226 advantage in her eyeballs themselves. 785 00:39:54,367 --> 00:39:58,967 Could Fae's eye have powers the rest of ours don't? 786 00:39:59,100 --> 00:40:04,270 Warren believes her secret may be that she sees light 787 00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:05,570 differently. 788 00:40:05,700 --> 00:40:07,500 JOSHUA WARREN: Right now all the data that we have 789 00:40:07,633 --> 00:40:13,333 indicates ghosts are more visible in the infrared realm. 790 00:40:13,467 --> 00:40:16,297 Some of the best ghost images I've seen have been 791 00:40:16,433 --> 00:40:19,973 captured using infrared technology. 792 00:40:20,100 --> 00:40:22,000 NARRATOR: Could Fae be seeing ghosts that are all 793 00:40:22,133 --> 00:40:25,833 around us, ghosts that most of us miss because we 794 00:40:25,967 --> 00:40:28,697 can't see infrared? 795 00:40:28,834 --> 00:40:31,174 JOSHUA WARREN: The average person can only see a 796 00:40:31,300 --> 00:40:35,270 relatively narrow band of light from usually around 797 00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:37,530 green to red. 798 00:40:37,667 --> 00:40:40,327 Fae might be able to see a little bit more than the 799 00:40:40,467 --> 00:40:42,127 rest of us. 800 00:40:42,266 --> 00:40:44,096 NARRATOR: Scientists call the range of light the 801 00:40:44,233 --> 00:40:46,703 visible spectrum, although most of us know it as the 802 00:40:46,834 --> 00:40:48,574 colours of the rainbow. 803 00:40:48,700 --> 00:40:51,970 But what if Fae was somehow able to literally 804 00:40:52,100 --> 00:40:55,600 see what the rest of us can't? 805 00:40:55,734 --> 00:40:57,104 JOSHUA WARREN: In the human eye there are two 806 00:40:57,233 --> 00:40:59,003 primary types of cells. 807 00:40:59,133 --> 00:41:01,933 You've got the rod cells and the cone cells. 808 00:41:02,066 --> 00:41:06,326 Rod cells are used for nighttime vision but they 809 00:41:06,467 --> 00:41:08,027 can't see colour. 810 00:41:08,166 --> 00:41:11,326 Then you have the cone cells which respond very 811 00:41:11,467 --> 00:41:14,227 quickly and they see colour. 812 00:41:14,367 --> 00:41:19,727 If Fae has more of those rod or cone cells, 813 00:41:19,867 --> 00:41:23,397 especially the cones, that alone might allow her to 814 00:41:23,533 --> 00:41:26,573 see a broader range of colours and frequencies 815 00:41:26,700 --> 00:41:29,100 than the average person. 816 00:41:29,233 --> 00:41:33,233 Her eyes physiologically allow her to peer deeper 817 00:41:33,367 --> 00:41:37,697 into the infrared or ultraviolet realms. 818 00:41:37,834 --> 00:41:39,634 NARRATOR: Incredibly, Warren also believes the 819 00:41:39,767 --> 00:41:43,597 eye might not just explain Fae's story, but also why 820 00:41:43,734 --> 00:41:48,704 children on average report seeing more ghosts than adults. 821 00:41:48,834 --> 00:41:51,974 JOSHUA WARREN: As a person ages, the components of 822 00:41:52,100 --> 00:41:55,570 the eye become more and more dense. 823 00:41:55,700 --> 00:41:58,430 In extreme cases, they can become very cloudy and 824 00:41:58,567 --> 00:41:59,667 form a cataract. 825 00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:03,470 So the older you get, the less you're able to, 826 00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:06,770 to see when it comes to this band of frequencies. 827 00:42:08,233 --> 00:42:10,873 NARRATOR: Could Fae and other children like her 828 00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:16,270 really be able to see into the infrared world of ghosts? 829 00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:20,300 Does she have a sixth sense? 830 00:42:20,433 --> 00:42:23,533 Or is Fae just a needy kid who wanted her mother's 831 00:42:23,667 --> 00:42:26,927 attention and approval? 832 00:42:27,066 --> 00:42:30,166 We may never know. 833 00:42:30,300 --> 00:42:33,470 Weird or What? 834 00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:40,770 [♪] 835 00:42:44,734 --> 00:42:46,734 NARRATOR: So there we have it, ghost stories from 836 00:42:46,867 --> 00:42:48,927 around the world. 837 00:42:49,066 --> 00:42:51,596 [♪] 838 00:42:51,734 --> 00:42:53,774 NARRATOR: A Californian woman's home plays host to 839 00:42:53,900 --> 00:42:56,970 one of the most terrifying paranormal events on record. 840 00:42:57,100 --> 00:43:02,170 [♪] 841 00:43:02,300 --> 00:43:04,970 In New England, a woman is possessed by an evil spirit 842 00:43:05,100 --> 00:43:08,730 so strong even the Catholic Church fails to defeat it. 843 00:43:08,867 --> 00:43:13,027 [♪] 844 00:43:13,166 --> 00:43:16,596 And a British teenager can see and talk to ghosts. 845 00:43:16,734 --> 00:43:21,474 Is she proof that some children have the gift? 846 00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:26,100 Are these bizarre stories evidence that ghosts exist? 847 00:43:26,233 --> 00:43:30,003 Can we seek comfort in rational explanations, 848 00:43:30,133 --> 00:43:35,573 or do we ignore them at our peril? You decide. 849 00:43:35,700 --> 00:43:37,570 WILLIAM SHATNER: Join me next time for more stories 850 00:43:37,700 --> 00:43:43,900 that will undoubtedly be weird or what? 851 00:43:49,567 --> 00:43:50,527 [♪] 64157

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