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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:04,533 --> 00:00:06,473 and may contain mature subject matter. 2 00:00:06,467 --> 00:00:10,367 Viewer discretion is advised. 3 00:00:10,500 --> 00:00:13,200 and may contain mature subj.ct matter. 4 00:00:13,333 --> 00:00:14,803 William Shatner: You know what? 5 00:00:14,934 --> 00:00:16,304 I've been around for a while. 6 00:00:16,433 --> 00:00:18,903 I've travelled the world, met some interesting people, 7 00:00:19,033 --> 00:00:20,433 done some crazy things. 8 00:00:20,567 --> 00:00:22,967 So, you might just think 9 00:00:23,100 --> 00:00:25,270 there's not much that could take me by surprise. 10 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:28,270 You'd be wrong. 11 00:00:29,967 --> 00:00:32,497 The world is full of stories and science 12 00:00:32,633 --> 00:00:35,033 and things that amaze and confound me 13 00:00:35,166 --> 00:00:36,496 every single day, 14 00:00:36,633 --> 00:00:39,173 incredible mysteries that keep me awake at night. 15 00:00:39,300 --> 00:00:40,630 Some I can answer. 16 00:00:40,767 --> 00:00:42,227 Others... 17 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:45,470 just defy logic -- 18 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:47,830 like the heart transplant patient 19 00:00:47,967 --> 00:00:51,367 who undergoes an uncanny transformation, 20 00:00:51,500 --> 00:00:53,400 assuming the personality of his donor. 21 00:00:53,533 --> 00:00:55,173 Scientists ask, 22 00:00:55,300 --> 00:00:56,930 could the story of Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde 23 00:00:57,066 --> 00:00:59,796 be real? 24 00:00:59,934 --> 00:01:02,204 A weird phenomenon is appearing in lakes and rivers -- 25 00:01:02,333 --> 00:01:03,933 perfect circles of ice, 26 00:01:04,066 --> 00:01:07,166 some so big they're visible from space. 27 00:01:07,300 --> 00:01:09,170 What are they? 28 00:01:09,300 --> 00:01:11,330 And a DNA test that suggests the impossible -- 29 00:01:11,467 --> 00:01:15,497 a mother somehow genetically unrelated to her own children. 30 00:01:15,633 --> 00:01:17,133 Could the test be wrong, 31 00:01:17,266 --> 00:01:19,866 or is the truth beyond reason? 32 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:21,700 Could it be possible for a human being 33 00:01:21,834 --> 00:01:24,804 to have more than one set of DNA? 34 00:01:24,934 --> 00:01:27,034 Yup... 35 00:01:27,166 --> 00:01:28,966 it's a weird world. 36 00:01:30,567 --> 00:01:32,597 And I love it. 37 00:01:52,834 --> 00:01:54,734 You don't need me to tell you 38 00:01:54,867 --> 00:01:57,027 that modern medicine is utterly remarkable. 39 00:01:57,166 --> 00:01:58,996 The kind of procedures that only existed 40 00:01:59,133 --> 00:02:01,273 in the realm of science fiction 50 years ago 41 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:02,770 are now commonplace. 42 00:02:02,900 --> 00:02:04,270 Take heart failure -- 43 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:05,930 still the world's biggest killer, 44 00:02:06,066 --> 00:02:08,426 but these days, if you're lucky, 45 00:02:08,567 --> 00:02:11,027 doctors can transplant 46 00:02:11,166 --> 00:02:12,996 a healthy heart into your chest. 47 00:02:13,133 --> 00:02:14,533 Within weeks, 48 00:02:14,667 --> 00:02:17,667 you can be up and running, with a whole new lease on life, 49 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:20,170 thanks to the kindness of some recently departed donor. 50 00:02:20,300 --> 00:02:21,670 Incredible! 51 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:24,000 But as this next 52 00:02:24,133 --> 00:02:26,173 weird tale will reveal, 53 00:02:26,300 --> 00:02:28,000 transplant patients 54 00:02:28,133 --> 00:02:31,533 may be getting more than they bargained for -- 55 00:02:31,667 --> 00:02:34,527 not simply someone else's heart 56 00:02:34,667 --> 00:02:38,027 but their personality, too. 57 00:02:38,166 --> 00:02:40,796 I had worked very hard, and I had sold my soul 58 00:02:40,934 --> 00:02:43,234 for the greenback. 59 00:02:43,367 --> 00:02:45,197 I was a fat, out of shape businessman, 60 00:02:45,333 --> 00:02:48,903 not taking care of himself. 61 00:02:49,033 --> 00:02:51,833 William Shatner: Bill Wohl was obsessed with making money, 62 00:02:51,967 --> 00:02:55,927 but when he suffered a massive heart attack in 1999, 63 00:02:56,066 --> 00:02:58,566 his life changed forever. 64 00:02:58,700 --> 00:03:00,600 They told me a number of times 65 00:03:00,734 --> 00:03:04,134 I was their worst cardiac case, ever. 66 00:03:04,266 --> 00:03:09,296 William Shatner: Bill needed a new heart, and on February 22, 2000, 67 00:03:09,433 --> 00:03:12,573 a suitable organ became available. 68 00:03:12,700 --> 00:03:14,870 The donor was a Hollywood stuntman 69 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:17,800 named Brady Michaels, 70 00:03:17,934 --> 00:03:19,974 a fit, focused, passionate man, 71 00:03:20,100 --> 00:03:21,470 who tragically died 72 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:24,030 doing the job he loved. 73 00:03:24,166 --> 00:03:27,126 Brady's death would ultimately save Bill Wohl's life. 74 00:03:29,166 --> 00:03:32,026 Bill Wohl: I remember waking up that afternoon, very sore, 75 00:03:32,166 --> 00:03:34,526 but I had a new heart, 76 00:03:34,667 --> 00:03:36,997 and I was smiling. 77 00:03:37,133 --> 00:03:39,033 I was grinning from ear to ear 78 00:03:39,166 --> 00:03:40,996 'cause I was so thankful, 'cause, 79 00:03:41,133 --> 00:03:42,503 living in the hospital, 80 00:03:42,633 --> 00:03:45,733 you get to appreciate. 81 00:03:45,867 --> 00:03:48,397 And if you're smart, you learn 82 00:03:48,533 --> 00:03:51,173 love, patience, tolerance and understanding, 83 00:03:51,300 --> 00:03:53,670 'cause there are so many angry people in the world. 84 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:56,430 William Shatner: But after his operation, 85 00:03:56,567 --> 00:03:59,027 Bill says he started acting in strange new ways. 86 00:03:59,166 --> 00:04:01,566 Bill Wohl: Well, the first thing that really shocked me 87 00:04:01,700 --> 00:04:03,030 was that day, driving to work. 88 00:04:03,166 --> 00:04:06,466 I usually listen to classic hard rock -- 89 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:08,070 Led Zeppelin, things like that. 90 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:09,570 Don't ask me why, 91 00:04:09,700 --> 00:04:11,900 but, that morning, I flipped it to, 92 00:04:12,033 --> 00:04:13,433 like, a jazz station. 93 00:04:13,567 --> 00:04:15,427 And I'm driving to work, 94 00:04:15,567 --> 00:04:17,427 and I hear this song, 95 00:04:17,567 --> 00:04:20,867 and it was Sade, the Kiss of Life. 96 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:22,530 And I started crying, 97 00:04:22,667 --> 00:04:25,027 and it was like butter going through a knife. 98 00:04:25,166 --> 00:04:26,996 And I usually don't cry. 99 00:04:27,133 --> 00:04:29,673 It takes a lot to make me cry, 100 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:32,330 and, uh, here I was, 101 00:04:32,467 --> 00:04:33,827 like, freaking out. 102 00:04:33,967 --> 00:04:37,027 William Shatner: Bill learned later that his heart's donor, 103 00:04:37,166 --> 00:04:40,426 Brady Michaels, was also a jazz aficionado. 104 00:04:40,567 --> 00:04:42,397 According to Bill, 105 00:04:42,533 --> 00:04:45,703 the transplant didn't just change his musical tastes. 106 00:04:45,834 --> 00:04:48,574 It also changed his vocabulary. 107 00:04:48,700 --> 00:04:50,070 Bill Wohl: And it's really funny. 108 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:52,370 I can tell you, as a cutthroat businessman, 109 00:04:52,500 --> 00:04:56,370 the surfer lingo and "dude" did not fit into my character. 110 00:04:56,500 --> 00:04:58,330 William Shatner: He also found he was copying 111 00:04:58,467 --> 00:05:00,397 Michaels' taste for healthy food. 112 00:05:00,533 --> 00:05:02,403 Bill Wohl: He was a health nut. 113 00:05:02,533 --> 00:05:05,173 He was very big on salads. 114 00:05:07,734 --> 00:05:10,034 In the old days, if there weren't French fries, 115 00:05:10,166 --> 00:05:11,696 if there wasn't a steak 116 00:05:11,834 --> 00:05:14,204 or a lobster tail or something fried, 117 00:05:14,333 --> 00:05:15,673 it wasn't gonna happen. 118 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:17,530 Now, once in a while, as a treat, 119 00:05:17,667 --> 00:05:20,867 I'll have something like that, but I actually love salads. 120 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:23,600 William Shatner: Most astonishingly, 121 00:05:23,734 --> 00:05:27,234 Bill's new heart transformed him from an overweight couch potato 122 00:05:27,367 --> 00:05:29,167 into a physical fitness freak, 123 00:05:29,300 --> 00:05:31,530 just like Brady Michaels. 124 00:05:31,667 --> 00:05:35,167 Bill believes that in taking Brady Michaels' heart, 125 00:05:35,300 --> 00:05:39,230 he has taken some of Michaels' personality. 126 00:05:42,300 --> 00:05:46,530 I'm living with a part of him that he's blessed me, 127 00:05:46,667 --> 00:05:48,567 and with that blessing 128 00:05:48,700 --> 00:05:52,730 has come some ideas and thoughts and characteristics 129 00:05:52,867 --> 00:05:54,797 that have kind of melded 130 00:05:54,934 --> 00:05:58,234 and become a part of my everyday life. 131 00:05:58,367 --> 00:06:01,267 Well, this is all very weird. 132 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:03,070 I told you it was weird. 133 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:05,770 A guy gets a heart transplant, and he believes he got a bonus. 134 00:06:05,900 --> 00:06:08,230 He got the donor's personality, too. 135 00:06:08,367 --> 00:06:09,697 And it's more than the heart. 136 00:06:09,834 --> 00:06:11,204 Think about it. 137 00:06:11,333 --> 00:06:13,533 There are thousands of other transplants done each year -- 138 00:06:13,667 --> 00:06:15,027 lungs, kidneys, livers. 139 00:06:15,166 --> 00:06:16,526 If this guy is right, 140 00:06:16,667 --> 00:06:17,997 are those people getting 141 00:06:18,133 --> 00:06:20,533 their donor's personalities as well? 142 00:06:20,667 --> 00:06:23,067 Is this even possible? 143 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:25,300 Bill Wohl's remarkable story 144 00:06:25,433 --> 00:06:28,203 suggests something that common sense says cannot be. 145 00:06:29,834 --> 00:06:32,274 Could our organs really store 146 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:34,130 the essence of our being? 147 00:06:34,266 --> 00:06:37,726 Can one person's body assimilate the personality 148 00:06:37,867 --> 00:06:39,827 of someone long since dead? 149 00:06:39,967 --> 00:06:42,827 Psychology Professor Dr. Gary Schwartz thinks so. 150 00:06:42,967 --> 00:06:48,097 If all tissues could store information and energy, 151 00:06:48,233 --> 00:06:51,773 then, if tissue was removed from one person 152 00:06:51,900 --> 00:06:54,500 and was surgically placed in another, 153 00:06:54,633 --> 00:06:56,833 there would be a transplant not only of the matter 154 00:06:56,967 --> 00:06:58,697 but of the memory as well. 155 00:06:58,834 --> 00:07:00,774 William Shatner: Schwartz has researched 156 00:07:00,900 --> 00:07:02,700 the transfer of memory for 30 years 157 00:07:02,834 --> 00:07:05,104 and has tracked down some 70 cases 158 00:07:05,233 --> 00:07:07,103 of similar donor stories. 159 00:07:07,233 --> 00:07:08,633 Gary Schwartz: I have seen 160 00:07:08,767 --> 00:07:13,567 too many cases of uncanny and accurate 161 00:07:13,700 --> 00:07:16,630 parallels for me to question 162 00:07:16,767 --> 00:07:18,797 whether there's a phenomena here. 163 00:07:18,934 --> 00:07:23,034 William Shatner: In 1988, Claire Sylvia received the heart and lungs 164 00:07:23,166 --> 00:07:25,896 of a young man who died in a motorcycle accident. 165 00:07:26,033 --> 00:07:28,273 After the operation, 166 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:30,430 she develops a new taste for beer, 167 00:07:30,567 --> 00:07:32,697 green peppers and chicken nuggets -- 168 00:07:32,834 --> 00:07:35,334 things her former self would never have eaten. 169 00:07:35,467 --> 00:07:37,567 The donor's parents tell her that their son, Tim, 170 00:07:37,700 --> 00:07:40,300 loved nothing more than beer and green peppers, 171 00:07:40,433 --> 00:07:41,933 and, chillingly, 172 00:07:42,066 --> 00:07:43,926 on the night Tim died, 173 00:07:44,066 --> 00:07:47,026 he was riding his motorcycle with a box of chicken nuggets 174 00:07:47,166 --> 00:07:48,726 in his pocket. 175 00:07:48,867 --> 00:07:51,597 There are examples from Bill's case 176 00:07:51,734 --> 00:07:54,634 which indicate the specificity, 177 00:07:54,767 --> 00:07:57,567 above and beyond simple changes in diet or exercise 178 00:07:57,700 --> 00:07:59,070 which a lot of people might do 179 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:00,630 because they had a heart transplant. 180 00:08:00,767 --> 00:08:02,967 William Shatner: Can't these personality changes 181 00:08:03,100 --> 00:08:06,200 be explained as a reaction to a brush with death, 182 00:08:06,333 --> 00:08:07,703 or even as side effects 183 00:08:07,834 --> 00:08:09,704 of the powerful anti-rejection drugs 184 00:08:09,834 --> 00:08:13,204 used after transplant surgery? 185 00:08:13,333 --> 00:08:15,203 The first thing one wants to entertain 186 00:08:15,333 --> 00:08:17,833 are conventional explanations, 187 00:08:17,967 --> 00:08:19,797 like side effects of the drugs, 188 00:08:19,934 --> 00:08:22,004 stress of the surgery 189 00:08:22,133 --> 00:08:26,473 or just changes in philosophy of life. 190 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:28,170 They're given drugs and medication 191 00:08:28,300 --> 00:08:30,070 to tame down their immune system, 192 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:32,100 and most of the side effects and toxicity 193 00:08:32,233 --> 00:08:34,833 come from these immunosuppressant drugs 194 00:08:34,967 --> 00:08:38,267 that reduce the response of the body to the new organ. 195 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:41,370 A side effect of a steroid might change people's 196 00:08:41,500 --> 00:08:43,900 anxiety level, or it might change, 197 00:08:44,033 --> 00:08:45,833 maybe, a certain food preference, 198 00:08:45,967 --> 00:08:47,697 but it's going to be random in relationship 199 00:08:47,834 --> 00:08:51,134 to the preferences and personality of the donor. 200 00:08:51,266 --> 00:08:53,166 I don't think the anti-rejection drugs, 201 00:08:53,300 --> 00:08:54,700 as toxic as they may be, 202 00:08:54,834 --> 00:08:56,704 could explain the specific information 203 00:08:56,834 --> 00:08:58,174 that gets transferred. 204 00:08:58,300 --> 00:08:59,870 That would have to be pure luck 205 00:09:00,066 --> 00:09:02,266 or some actual mechanism of transference 206 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:04,730 from the donor to the recipient. 207 00:09:04,867 --> 00:09:06,327 William Shatner: So, it appears to be 208 00:09:06,467 --> 00:09:09,197 too much of a coincidence to be the drugs. 209 00:09:09,333 --> 00:09:11,833 Dr. Stuart Hameroff has a radical theory 210 00:09:11,967 --> 00:09:14,667 that suggests something almost beyond belief. 211 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:17,000 Can the human heart 212 00:09:17,133 --> 00:09:19,503 actually store our memories? 213 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:28,070 ♪ 214 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:29,770 William Shatner: Bill Wohl has undergone 215 00:09:29,900 --> 00:09:32,100 a seemingly supernatural transformation -- 216 00:09:32,233 --> 00:09:35,603 a heart transplant he believes changed his personality, 217 00:09:35,734 --> 00:09:37,934 his tastes, even his memories 218 00:09:38,066 --> 00:09:40,426 into those of his donor, 219 00:09:40,567 --> 00:09:43,767 all-action Hollywood stuntman Brady Michaels. 220 00:09:43,900 --> 00:09:45,400 Could something that appears 221 00:09:45,533 --> 00:09:47,433 straight from a horror movie 222 00:09:47,567 --> 00:09:49,327 actually be real? 223 00:09:49,467 --> 00:09:53,597 Dr. Stuart Hameroff has a radical theory about how memory 224 00:09:53,734 --> 00:09:55,904 is stored in the human body. 225 00:09:56,033 --> 00:09:59,003 It's not only the brain that can store memory. 226 00:09:59,133 --> 00:10:00,633 We have muscle memory. 227 00:10:00,767 --> 00:10:03,397 We learn to play tennis, and there's information stored 228 00:10:03,533 --> 00:10:05,573 in the nerves that control the muscles, 229 00:10:05,700 --> 00:10:07,100 and the heart has a lot of neurons. 230 00:10:07,233 --> 00:10:08,603 Outside the brain, 231 00:10:08,734 --> 00:10:10,434 it's one of the largest collections of neurons 232 00:10:10,567 --> 00:10:11,897 in the body. 233 00:10:12,033 --> 00:10:13,903 The nodes that control the beating of the heart 234 00:10:14,033 --> 00:10:16,273 and the conduction and the synchrony of the muscles 235 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:18,230 so the heart beats together, synchronously, 236 00:10:18,367 --> 00:10:21,427 are a fairly substantial complex of neurons. 237 00:10:21,567 --> 00:10:24,067 William Shatner: Neurons are specialized cells 238 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:25,770 that transmit information 239 00:10:25,900 --> 00:10:28,430 via electrical impulses and chemical signals 240 00:10:28,567 --> 00:10:32,097 throughout the body's nervous system. 241 00:10:32,233 --> 00:10:35,403 The information they carry allows us to move, think, 242 00:10:35,533 --> 00:10:38,173 learn and feel. 243 00:10:38,300 --> 00:10:40,400 Most neuroscientists believe that long-term memories 244 00:10:40,533 --> 00:10:44,173 are stored exclusively by neurons in the brain. 245 00:10:44,300 --> 00:10:46,470 Dr. Hameroff has a more radical theory. 246 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:49,100 He believes memories can also be stored by neurons 247 00:10:49,233 --> 00:10:51,603 in other parts of the body, 248 00:10:51,734 --> 00:10:55,274 within a cellular structure called a microtubule. 249 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:56,770 Microtubules seem to be 250 00:10:56,900 --> 00:10:59,230 the most likely site for memory to be housed 251 00:10:59,367 --> 00:11:01,327 because we know that in Alzheimer's disease, 252 00:11:01,467 --> 00:11:03,227 where you lose memory, 253 00:11:03,367 --> 00:11:05,967 it's the microtubules in the brain neurons that fall apart. 254 00:11:06,100 --> 00:11:07,800 So, there's a number of avenues of evidence 255 00:11:07,934 --> 00:11:09,334 that lead to the fact 256 00:11:09,467 --> 00:11:13,227 that the microtubules are housing and storing memory. 257 00:11:13,367 --> 00:11:15,197 But it would be focused and more prevalent 258 00:11:15,333 --> 00:11:18,003 in parts of the body that had the most neurons, 259 00:11:18,133 --> 00:11:19,503 the most microtubules -- 260 00:11:19,633 --> 00:11:22,003 namely the brain and the big nervous ganglia like the heart. 261 00:11:22,133 --> 00:11:24,273 William Shatner: If Dr. Hameroff is right, 262 00:11:24,400 --> 00:11:27,400 memories can be stored by microtubules in the brain, 263 00:11:27,533 --> 00:11:29,373 the heart and the spinal cord -- 264 00:11:29,500 --> 00:11:32,370 or anywhere else there are neurons. 265 00:11:32,500 --> 00:11:34,030 This could explain why, 266 00:11:34,166 --> 00:11:36,126 when Bill Wohl got a heart transplant, 267 00:11:36,266 --> 00:11:40,126 he got a memory transplant, too. 268 00:11:40,266 --> 00:11:43,996 Dr. Hameroff came to his theory of memory, initially, 269 00:11:44,133 --> 00:11:46,473 by studying neurons in anesthesia 270 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:48,830 and then extending that to other organs, 271 00:11:48,967 --> 00:11:50,297 particularly the heart. 272 00:11:50,433 --> 00:11:52,573 So, he's looking at a very special case 273 00:11:52,700 --> 00:11:57,030 of how a particular component of a cell can have memory, 274 00:11:57,166 --> 00:11:58,966 and I wouldn't disagree with him. 275 00:11:59,100 --> 00:12:01,270 Throughout human history, 276 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:04,270 poets and philosophers have invested the heart 277 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:07,030 with powers and meaning beyond that of a simple organ. 278 00:12:07,166 --> 00:12:09,096 In Papua, New Guinea, 279 00:12:09,233 --> 00:12:11,073 victorious warrior tribes 280 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:13,600 would consume the hearts of the vanquished 281 00:12:13,734 --> 00:12:15,274 to absorb their qualities. 282 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:16,770 In the arts, 283 00:12:16,900 --> 00:12:19,070 the heart has always been seen 284 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:21,600 as the source of all love and passion. 285 00:12:21,734 --> 00:12:24,934 "Who could refrain, that had a heart to love, 286 00:12:25,066 --> 00:12:28,196 "and in that heart, courage to make love known?" 287 00:12:28,333 --> 00:12:29,703 That's Shakespeare. 288 00:12:29,834 --> 00:12:32,774 The heart is central to our culture, 289 00:12:32,900 --> 00:12:35,230 and it is our own centre. 290 00:12:35,367 --> 00:12:38,067 From the heart, everything flows. 291 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:40,070 Now, some scientists believe 292 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:43,730 the heart literally has a mind of its own. 293 00:12:43,867 --> 00:12:47,427 But could memory and intelligence be found 294 00:12:47,567 --> 00:12:50,267 in more than our hearts and heads? 295 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:53,100 Could it be coursing 296 00:12:53,233 --> 00:12:55,703 through our whole bodies? 297 00:12:55,834 --> 00:12:59,234 Dr. Schwartz's theory takes things a step further. 298 00:12:59,367 --> 00:13:01,427 He thinks memory can be stored in all cells 299 00:13:01,567 --> 00:13:02,927 throughout the body, 300 00:13:03,066 --> 00:13:04,466 not just the neurons, 301 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:06,430 thanks to something called... 302 00:13:06,567 --> 00:13:08,367 "feedback." 303 00:13:08,500 --> 00:13:12,470 Feedback is the essence of learning and memory. 304 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:16,600 Now, that same feedback process operates at any level. 305 00:13:16,734 --> 00:13:18,574 It's what operates within the neurons 306 00:13:18,700 --> 00:13:21,500 that allow the neurons to learn between them. 307 00:13:21,633 --> 00:13:24,603 But that same feedback that allows the neuron cells to learn 308 00:13:24,734 --> 00:13:26,274 is feedback that can operate 309 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:29,270 within the interconnected network of cells 310 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:32,670 in the heart or the lungs or any other organ. 311 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:34,930 William Shatner: Feedback occurs when a past event 312 00:13:35,066 --> 00:13:37,066 influences the response to the same event 313 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:39,430 in the present or future. 314 00:13:39,567 --> 00:13:41,267 According to Schwartz, this loop 315 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:44,470 allows individual cells to have a sort of memory. 316 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:46,330 That's another thing about these feedback loops 317 00:13:46,467 --> 00:13:47,867 is recurrent process. 318 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:50,100 Each time you repeat the process over and over again, 319 00:13:50,233 --> 00:13:52,003 it makes the memory stronger. 320 00:13:52,133 --> 00:13:54,673 William Shatner: Could our individual cells 321 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:57,370 have a form of memory? 322 00:13:57,500 --> 00:13:58,870 Schwartz believes they do, 323 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:03,100 and, what's more, he thinks he can prove it. 324 00:14:03,233 --> 00:14:06,103 We typically think of muscle memory 325 00:14:06,233 --> 00:14:08,103 as being mostly the brain, 326 00:14:08,233 --> 00:14:09,603 but it turns out 327 00:14:09,734 --> 00:14:11,704 the muscles have the potential to learn as well, 328 00:14:11,834 --> 00:14:13,774 because all muscles have feedback, 329 00:14:13,900 --> 00:14:15,430 ergo feedback memory 330 00:14:15,567 --> 00:14:18,197 and muscle memory in the muscles themselves. 331 00:14:18,333 --> 00:14:22,273 William Shatner: Schwartz can show this principle in action. 332 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:24,370 A person is able to train his muscles 333 00:14:24,500 --> 00:14:26,630 to shoot basketball hoops, using feedback, 334 00:14:26,767 --> 00:14:28,667 so that he continues to hit the basket 335 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:31,270 even when blindfolded. 336 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:33,470 According to Schwartz, 337 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:36,400 it is not just groups of tissue that can have memories. 338 00:14:36,533 --> 00:14:37,873 He thinks it is possible 339 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:40,230 that every single cell in the body 340 00:14:40,367 --> 00:14:42,927 can store information. 341 00:14:43,066 --> 00:14:44,396 Gary Schwartz: Since feedback loops 342 00:14:44,533 --> 00:14:46,233 are operating at every level in the body, 343 00:14:46,367 --> 00:14:47,927 at every level, there's gonna be, 344 00:14:48,066 --> 00:14:49,596 theoretically, memory and, 345 00:14:49,734 --> 00:14:51,074 to various degrees, learning, 346 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:53,030 at every level in the body. 347 00:14:53,166 --> 00:14:54,566 William Shatner: Although unproven, 348 00:14:54,700 --> 00:14:56,070 this theory could help explain 349 00:14:56,200 --> 00:14:57,930 the cases of transplant recipients 350 00:14:58,066 --> 00:14:59,866 who report receiving the donor's memories, 351 00:15:00,066 --> 00:15:02,096 tastes and behaviour 352 00:15:02,233 --> 00:15:05,133 along with their new organ. 353 00:15:05,266 --> 00:15:08,066 Interesting but, unfortunately, all theoretical. 354 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:10,570 Maybe, to find the answer to this mystery, 355 00:15:10,700 --> 00:15:12,600 we should take a look at a different organ -- 356 00:15:12,734 --> 00:15:14,104 the human brain. 357 00:15:14,233 --> 00:15:16,773 Maybe, just maybe, 358 00:15:16,900 --> 00:15:20,230 now that Bill has his new heart and his health, 359 00:15:20,367 --> 00:15:22,597 it's gone to his head. 360 00:15:22,734 --> 00:15:24,434 Could getting a new lease on life 361 00:15:24,567 --> 00:15:29,427 convince you that you are a whole new person? 362 00:15:29,567 --> 00:15:32,997 Bill doesn't think it's all that simple. 363 00:15:33,133 --> 00:15:35,003 Certainly, just getting a transplant 364 00:15:35,133 --> 00:15:36,633 and a second chance at life 365 00:15:36,767 --> 00:15:38,967 changed me in a major way, 366 00:15:39,100 --> 00:15:40,770 but I also totally believe 367 00:15:40,900 --> 00:15:43,400 that certain characteristics of my donor 368 00:15:43,533 --> 00:15:45,703 have become a basic part of my life, 369 00:15:45,834 --> 00:15:47,204 and I feel that this is 370 00:15:47,333 --> 00:15:50,203 the cellular memory that's changed my life 371 00:15:50,333 --> 00:15:52,933 and, I honestly feel, made me a better person, 372 00:15:53,066 --> 00:15:54,426 a happier person. 373 00:15:54,567 --> 00:15:58,497 And I actually love, now, caring and helping and wanting 374 00:15:58,633 --> 00:16:00,073 to make a difference. 375 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:02,270 William Shatner: Most neuroscientists remain skeptical 376 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:04,030 that cellular memory exists at all. 377 00:16:04,166 --> 00:16:06,926 Nevertheless, Bill Wohl believes 378 00:16:07,066 --> 00:16:08,796 memories, just like organs, 379 00:16:08,934 --> 00:16:10,674 can be transplanted. 380 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:13,630 One thing is true. 381 00:16:13,767 --> 00:16:16,627 Bill's experiences have definitely been... 382 00:16:16,767 --> 00:16:19,197 weird, or what. 383 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:37,770 Across the planet, 384 00:16:37,900 --> 00:16:41,930 a strange phenomenon is appearing in lakes and rivers -- 385 00:16:42,066 --> 00:16:46,296 perfect circles of ice, some so big, 386 00:16:46,433 --> 00:16:48,703 they're visible from space. 387 00:16:48,834 --> 00:16:51,204 Are these ice circles forming naturally, 388 00:16:51,333 --> 00:16:53,873 or is this some kind of elaborate hoax? 389 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:57,330 Now, for the first time, 390 00:16:57,467 --> 00:17:00,267 scientists plan to uncover the truth. 391 00:17:07,734 --> 00:17:09,904 ♪ 392 00:17:10,033 --> 00:17:11,433 Pie -- 393 00:17:11,567 --> 00:17:13,627 warm, round, 394 00:17:13,767 --> 00:17:15,097 delicious. 395 00:17:15,233 --> 00:17:17,103 Simply nothing weird at all here, 396 00:17:17,233 --> 00:17:19,133 but this got me thinking about pi. 397 00:17:19,266 --> 00:17:21,296 No, not, not, not this pie -- 398 00:17:21,433 --> 00:17:22,933 the number pi. 399 00:17:23,066 --> 00:17:25,926 You need the number pi to explain the simple circle. 400 00:17:26,066 --> 00:17:29,796 And just like the simple, round, delicious pie, 401 00:17:29,934 --> 00:17:32,204 when you dig deeper, it gets more complicated. 402 00:17:32,333 --> 00:17:33,933 Pi is a constant -- 403 00:17:34,066 --> 00:17:37,296 the ratio of any circle's circumference to its diameter. 404 00:17:37,433 --> 00:17:40,303 But that ratio can be calculated forever 405 00:17:40,433 --> 00:17:42,333 without coming to a final decimal. 406 00:17:42,467 --> 00:17:44,097 Circles, 407 00:17:44,233 --> 00:17:47,803 they start off looking so simple, 408 00:17:47,934 --> 00:17:50,304 but when you get down to it, 409 00:17:50,433 --> 00:17:52,773 they're really complicated. 410 00:17:52,900 --> 00:17:56,970 On December 13th, 2007, 411 00:17:57,100 --> 00:17:59,600 amateur photographer Brook Tyler was walking through 412 00:17:59,734 --> 00:18:02,574 Rattray Marsh Conservation Area, Southern Ontario. 413 00:18:02,700 --> 00:18:05,000 Brook Tyler: Well I love to do nature photography, 414 00:18:05,133 --> 00:18:07,473 landscapes, primarily, 415 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:09,000 and creeks and waterfalls 416 00:18:09,133 --> 00:18:10,833 and anything that's sort of remote 417 00:18:10,967 --> 00:18:12,467 and off the beaten path. 418 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:14,730 William Shatner: When he got to Sheridan Creek, 419 00:18:14,867 --> 00:18:17,767 Brook saw something bizarre, majestic 420 00:18:17,900 --> 00:18:19,770 and totally unexplained. 421 00:18:19,900 --> 00:18:21,470 Brook Tyler: Well, I was coming down here 422 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:22,970 to see what the creek looked like, 423 00:18:23,100 --> 00:18:25,800 and as I was coming around the boardwalk over there, 424 00:18:25,934 --> 00:18:27,274 I happened to see it. 425 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:29,470 It was about 6', maybe a little bit more, 426 00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:31,530 in diameter, and it was turning. 427 00:18:35,266 --> 00:18:37,126 William Shatner: Brook had stumbled upon 428 00:18:37,266 --> 00:18:40,296 a strange, beautiful and mysterious phenomenon. 429 00:18:40,433 --> 00:18:41,873 Brook Tyler: I was really amazed. 430 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:43,370 It was so cool -- 431 00:18:43,500 --> 00:18:45,630 a perfectly round circle, inscribed in the ice. 432 00:18:45,767 --> 00:18:48,697 So, I set up my camera 433 00:18:48,834 --> 00:18:51,704 and started shooting. 434 00:18:51,834 --> 00:18:54,074 William Shatner: Brook posted the photo on the internet, 435 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:55,830 and, after 150,000 hits, 436 00:18:55,967 --> 00:18:57,927 he quickly learned that ice circles 437 00:18:58,066 --> 00:18:59,666 were a global mystery, 438 00:18:59,800 --> 00:19:01,400 found across the US, 439 00:19:01,533 --> 00:19:04,003 Canada, Europe, Russia. 440 00:19:04,133 --> 00:19:06,033 But what, 441 00:19:06,166 --> 00:19:08,096 or who, was creating them? 442 00:19:08,233 --> 00:19:10,603 To Tyler, the similarity 443 00:19:10,734 --> 00:19:13,404 to a famous English hoax seemed obvious. 444 00:19:13,533 --> 00:19:17,133 Brook Tyler: Well, I entitled my photograph Creek Circle -- 445 00:19:17,266 --> 00:19:18,596 a takeoff on crop circle -- 446 00:19:18,734 --> 00:19:20,604 because the crop circles 447 00:19:20,734 --> 00:19:22,634 are obviously a little bit mysterious. 448 00:19:22,767 --> 00:19:26,127 Perfectly round circles forming naturally in the ice -- 449 00:19:26,266 --> 00:19:27,596 come on! 450 00:19:27,734 --> 00:19:29,134 It's too good to be true, right? 451 00:19:29,266 --> 00:19:32,126 Too perfect, too weird. 452 00:19:32,266 --> 00:19:34,596 Surely, someone is messing with us, 453 00:19:34,734 --> 00:19:36,634 creating ice circles 454 00:19:36,767 --> 00:19:39,367 like they would create crop circles? 455 00:19:39,500 --> 00:19:42,930 For over two decades, strange geometrical designs, 456 00:19:43,066 --> 00:19:46,066 known as crop circles, appeared in British farmland. 457 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:49,730 In 1991, two men admitted they were behind the hoax. 458 00:19:49,867 --> 00:19:51,727 They created these amazing patterns 459 00:19:51,867 --> 00:19:53,767 with little more than a length of rope 460 00:19:53,900 --> 00:19:56,730 and a plank of wood. 461 00:19:56,867 --> 00:19:59,167 So, could the ice circles be the handiwork 462 00:19:59,300 --> 00:20:00,700 of human hoaxers, 463 00:20:00,834 --> 00:20:02,404 just like many crop circles 464 00:20:02,533 --> 00:20:04,573 turned out to be? 465 00:20:04,700 --> 00:20:08,300 It's impossible for somebody to generate these circles. 466 00:20:08,433 --> 00:20:10,473 Uh, the ice is very, very thin, 467 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:12,970 very delicate, very, very fragile, 468 00:20:13,100 --> 00:20:14,800 and you try and put any sort of thing 469 00:20:14,934 --> 00:20:16,274 to cut the ice, 470 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:17,730 you're gonna leave evidence of it, 471 00:20:17,867 --> 00:20:19,927 or you're gonna have to somehow be standing in the ice, 472 00:20:20,066 --> 00:20:21,426 or standing in the water, 473 00:20:21,567 --> 00:20:23,297 to be able to hold whatever tool 474 00:20:23,433 --> 00:20:25,133 that you have to cut the circle. 475 00:20:25,266 --> 00:20:26,596 So, I wouldn't-- 476 00:20:26,734 --> 00:20:28,104 It's not-- 477 00:20:28,233 --> 00:20:29,773 It's Mother Nature doing her finest. 478 00:20:29,900 --> 00:20:32,870 William Shatner: Len Zabilansky is an engineer 479 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:35,600 at the Cold Regions Research and Engineering Laboratory 480 00:20:35,734 --> 00:20:37,304 in New Hampshire. 481 00:20:37,433 --> 00:20:39,273 Their research helps the US military 482 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:41,270 operate in cold climates. 483 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:42,730 Ice is nice. 484 00:20:42,867 --> 00:20:44,467 This is what we do, day in and day out. 485 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:46,700 We have three facilities here that we replicate 486 00:20:46,834 --> 00:20:48,234 the different processes, 487 00:20:48,367 --> 00:20:50,367 the ice processes, in different phases. 488 00:20:50,500 --> 00:20:53,500 We're in the test basin, where we do flat ice, sheet ice. 489 00:20:53,633 --> 00:20:57,703 We have another facility where we bring a river system inside, 490 00:20:57,834 --> 00:21:00,074 and then we have a large general research area. 491 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:03,170 William Shatner: Len sees a fundamental problem 492 00:21:03,300 --> 00:21:06,770 facing people wanting to hoax an ice circle. 493 00:21:06,900 --> 00:21:08,600 Because ice floats on top 494 00:21:08,734 --> 00:21:12,774 of the flowing river, there's no support below. 495 00:21:12,900 --> 00:21:15,830 Len Zabilansky: The ice has no strength, and so, he has to basically 496 00:21:15,967 --> 00:21:19,467 stand in mid-air to be able to do this, 497 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:21,470 and that's physically impossible. 498 00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:24,970 William Shatner: Zabilansky believes these perfect ice circles are formed 499 00:21:25,100 --> 00:21:28,370 by a unique combination of natural processes, 500 00:21:28,500 --> 00:21:30,330 and, for the first time, 501 00:21:30,467 --> 00:21:32,627 using a unique experiment, he intends to prove it. 502 00:21:32,767 --> 00:21:36,597 Len Zabilansky: The way the ice circle's formed is basically in a back eddy. 503 00:21:36,734 --> 00:21:38,304 The ice will follow the water, 504 00:21:38,433 --> 00:21:39,973 and if the water goes in a circle, 505 00:21:40,100 --> 00:21:41,470 so will the ice. 506 00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:43,770 Back eddies can be found on bends in rivers 507 00:21:43,900 --> 00:21:45,630 where a constriction 508 00:21:45,767 --> 00:21:48,097 forces some of the water to flow back on itself, 509 00:21:48,233 --> 00:21:50,933 creating a rotating pool. 510 00:21:51,066 --> 00:21:53,396 So, the theory goes that in the winter, 511 00:21:53,533 --> 00:21:55,403 when ice flows into an eddy, 512 00:21:55,533 --> 00:21:57,233 it too becomes a part of the rotation 513 00:21:57,367 --> 00:21:59,197 and begins to grow and grow outward, 514 00:21:59,333 --> 00:22:02,633 until it grinds against the surrounding static ice, 515 00:22:02,767 --> 00:22:04,097 like a gristmill, 516 00:22:04,233 --> 00:22:07,573 creating the perfect, beautiful ice circle. 517 00:22:07,700 --> 00:22:10,130 And what happens in the winter environment -- 518 00:22:10,266 --> 00:22:11,726 ice that's coming down 519 00:22:11,867 --> 00:22:14,797 into this backwater area, 520 00:22:14,934 --> 00:22:16,774 actually goes around as well, 521 00:22:16,900 --> 00:22:19,400 and, as the ice is contributing into this background, 522 00:22:19,533 --> 00:22:21,633 it continues to grow in a larger and larger circle. 523 00:22:21,767 --> 00:22:24,627 If you look at ice circles that we've had pictures of, 524 00:22:24,767 --> 00:22:26,597 it looks like a vinyl record, 525 00:22:26,734 --> 00:22:29,134 because everything is all very circular 526 00:22:29,266 --> 00:22:30,796 with different little ridges around. 527 00:22:30,934 --> 00:22:32,804 So, what's happening is the ice is coming down, 528 00:22:32,934 --> 00:22:35,804 bangs into the circle, and it just sort of squashes in, 529 00:22:35,934 --> 00:22:37,304 and you get a little ridge, 530 00:22:37,433 --> 00:22:39,133 and that ridge just keeps building up in time 531 00:22:39,266 --> 00:22:40,626 and getting larger and larger 532 00:22:40,767 --> 00:22:42,327 and larger and larger, in diameter. 533 00:22:42,467 --> 00:22:44,127 William Shatner: Like a gristmill, 534 00:22:44,266 --> 00:22:46,396 the rotating ice circles 535 00:22:46,533 --> 00:22:48,133 grind against the surrounding ice, 536 00:22:48,266 --> 00:22:50,466 creating a perfectly round circle 537 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:52,300 and its mirror image. 538 00:22:52,433 --> 00:22:55,073 Len Zabilansky: The two pieces will sort of nest together with a little bit 539 00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:56,570 of open water between them. 540 00:22:56,700 --> 00:22:59,570 You can see there's a very narrow gap, 541 00:22:59,700 --> 00:23:01,630 but you can actually see the milling process 542 00:23:01,767 --> 00:23:03,297 actually taking place. 543 00:23:03,433 --> 00:23:06,733 William Shatner: Len believes this is exactly what happened to create 544 00:23:06,867 --> 00:23:08,967 the ice circle in Brook Tyler's photo. 545 00:23:09,100 --> 00:23:10,470 This is more-- 546 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:12,000 This is the kind of ice circle 547 00:23:12,133 --> 00:23:13,773 that we're going to duplicate today. 548 00:23:13,900 --> 00:23:16,270 William Shatner: What are these mysterious circles of ice? 549 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:18,900 Are they a natural process of nature? 550 00:23:19,033 --> 00:23:21,133 Can they be recreated in a lab, 551 00:23:21,266 --> 00:23:23,626 or does the answer to this bizarre mystery 552 00:23:23,767 --> 00:23:25,697 lie beyond our planet? 553 00:23:32,300 --> 00:23:33,870 ♪ 554 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:36,770 William Shatner: A weird phenomenon is appearing in lakes and rivers -- 555 00:23:36,900 --> 00:23:38,470 perfect circles of ice. 556 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:41,700 Some so big, they're visible from space. 557 00:23:41,834 --> 00:23:43,404 What are they? 558 00:23:43,533 --> 00:23:45,003 At the Cold Regions 559 00:23:45,133 --> 00:23:47,303 Research and Engineering Laboratory in New Hampshire, 560 00:23:47,433 --> 00:23:50,433 engineer Len Zabilansky intends to find out, 561 00:23:50,567 --> 00:23:53,597 with an experiment that has never been attempted before -- 562 00:23:53,734 --> 00:23:55,734 recreating the conditions 563 00:23:55,867 --> 00:23:58,997 that he believes will lead to the creation of an ice circle. 564 00:23:59,133 --> 00:24:02,233 Len Zabilansky: What we've created here 565 00:24:02,367 --> 00:24:04,267 is the river process that would be-- 566 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:08,270 That would contribute to the formation of an ice circle. 567 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:10,500 William Shatner: In a temperature-controlled laboratory, 568 00:24:10,633 --> 00:24:12,933 Len has recreated the prevailing 569 00:24:13,066 --> 00:24:15,096 physical and environmental conditions that existed 570 00:24:15,233 --> 00:24:18,203 when Brook Tyler photographed the ice circle. 571 00:24:18,333 --> 00:24:21,203 The water is coming from our upstream reach of the river. 572 00:24:21,333 --> 00:24:23,773 It's coming down, past where we have 573 00:24:23,900 --> 00:24:26,070 more water coming into this section of the river 574 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:29,030 than we can actually allow to leave, 575 00:24:29,166 --> 00:24:30,566 to sort of create a backwater eddy. 576 00:24:30,700 --> 00:24:32,830 What happens is the water coming into our eddy, 577 00:24:32,967 --> 00:24:34,797 our hydraulic section, 578 00:24:34,934 --> 00:24:38,504 is less than the water that we're allowing to release 579 00:24:38,633 --> 00:24:40,503 from our control section, 580 00:24:40,633 --> 00:24:42,173 so we're continually recirculating. 581 00:24:42,300 --> 00:24:43,800 That's the recirculating section. 582 00:24:43,934 --> 00:24:45,774 And so, a little bit of the water will come out, 583 00:24:45,900 --> 00:24:47,230 but the ice will actually stay in 584 00:24:47,367 --> 00:24:48,767 and continue to circulate. 585 00:24:48,900 --> 00:24:51,730 William Shatner: The back eddy is a rotating pool of water 586 00:24:51,867 --> 00:24:55,227 Len believes is needed to trap and grow ice into a circle. 587 00:24:55,367 --> 00:24:57,097 Len Zabilansky: We're generating 588 00:24:57,233 --> 00:25:01,703 small snow crystals that are settling on the water surface, 589 00:25:01,834 --> 00:25:04,334 and that's what we're using to initiate ice. 590 00:25:04,467 --> 00:25:07,627 And as the ice forms and creates and circulates around, 591 00:25:07,767 --> 00:25:11,597 we're controlling the amount of ice that we're generating, 592 00:25:11,734 --> 00:25:13,634 so we're not plugging up the system. 593 00:25:13,767 --> 00:25:17,097 William Shatner: The snow acts like a seed and helps ice crystals 594 00:25:17,233 --> 00:25:20,103 to form in the flowing water. 595 00:25:20,233 --> 00:25:22,433 Len Zabilansky: And one submersible pump, 596 00:25:22,567 --> 00:25:23,897 and as the water comes around, 597 00:25:24,033 --> 00:25:27,203 it just shoots it forward, along with the ice, 598 00:25:27,333 --> 00:25:30,233 down into our eddy section. 599 00:25:30,367 --> 00:25:32,967 William Shatner: The experiment begins. 600 00:25:33,100 --> 00:25:36,100 Will Len's river form an elusive ice circle? 601 00:25:37,633 --> 00:25:39,473 Len Zabilansky: See, there's a piece of ice 602 00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:41,600 that just started spinning around in our circle. 603 00:25:41,734 --> 00:25:45,434 It will continue to build, and as it continues to rotate, 604 00:25:45,567 --> 00:25:48,897 ice that's coming from upstream may accumulate on the edge, 605 00:25:49,033 --> 00:25:52,033 and that's why you're gonna start seeing these ridges. 606 00:25:53,867 --> 00:25:56,467 At first, the ice in the back eddy grows as predicted, 607 00:25:56,600 --> 00:26:00,130 but it isn't forming as a uniform disc. 608 00:26:00,266 --> 00:26:03,166 It's ice but nowhere near the perfect ice circles 609 00:26:03,300 --> 00:26:05,370 he is trying to recreate. 610 00:26:05,500 --> 00:26:08,330 We just jammed it! 611 00:26:08,467 --> 00:26:10,297 William Shatner: Joe Desloges 612 00:26:10,433 --> 00:26:14,633 is a fluvial geomorphologist, or river expert. 613 00:26:14,767 --> 00:26:16,467 He believes he has a better theory 614 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:19,030 to explain this weird quirk of nature. 615 00:26:19,166 --> 00:26:21,326 Let's not assume the most wild, to start with, 616 00:26:21,467 --> 00:26:25,497 and let's start thinking about the true explanations 617 00:26:25,633 --> 00:26:27,333 that really help understand these. 618 00:26:27,467 --> 00:26:28,867 And that is the science. 619 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:31,300 William Shatner: But can science explain 620 00:26:31,433 --> 00:26:35,503 the three-mile wide ice circle in Russia's Lake Baikal? 621 00:26:35,633 --> 00:26:38,503 Joe Desloges: Features, from space, look fantastic, 622 00:26:38,633 --> 00:26:40,173 but when you're actually on the ground, 623 00:26:40,300 --> 00:26:41,670 you get a better sense 624 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:43,330 of what's likely to be controlling them -- 625 00:26:43,467 --> 00:26:44,827 and probably a different perception, 626 00:26:44,967 --> 00:26:46,827 entirely, about what the composition of them are 627 00:26:46,967 --> 00:26:48,327 and what they're made of. 628 00:26:48,467 --> 00:26:49,897 So, the best science really requires you 629 00:26:50,033 --> 00:26:51,373 to be out in the field. 630 00:26:51,500 --> 00:26:53,200 William Shatner: Joe has spent years 631 00:26:53,333 --> 00:26:55,503 studying how rivers behave in cold regions 632 00:26:55,633 --> 00:26:57,903 like Canada and Scandinavia. 633 00:26:58,033 --> 00:27:00,173 Well, cold climates are fantastic, 634 00:27:00,300 --> 00:27:03,170 in terms of water and the way water freezes. 635 00:27:03,300 --> 00:27:06,170 Uh, you can see a whole range of shapes, 636 00:27:06,300 --> 00:27:08,200 but one of the most common is circular. 637 00:27:08,333 --> 00:27:11,203 William Shatner: Joe believes there's another natural process 638 00:27:11,333 --> 00:27:13,673 that forms frozen circles on a river. 639 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:16,170 It's called frazil ice. 640 00:27:16,300 --> 00:27:19,570 Joe Desloges: Frazil ice forms in rivers when the water cools 641 00:27:19,700 --> 00:27:22,800 to a point where you begin forming these ice crystals, 642 00:27:22,934 --> 00:27:24,304 or we call them ice nuclei. 643 00:27:24,433 --> 00:27:27,303 The process is called supercooling, 644 00:27:27,433 --> 00:27:28,833 when water is just slightly 645 00:27:28,967 --> 00:27:32,667 below the freezing temperature and these nuclei begin to form. 646 00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:34,800 As the tiny ice crystals start to collide, 647 00:27:34,934 --> 00:27:38,134 they grow into larger clumps of frazil ice. 648 00:27:38,266 --> 00:27:40,126 Ice is lighter than water, 649 00:27:40,266 --> 00:27:43,466 so, as the clumps grow, the more buoyant they become. 650 00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:45,730 Joe Desloges: And as they float to the surface, 651 00:27:45,867 --> 00:27:49,067 they tend to form these nice, circular ice pans. 652 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:51,570 So, they actually look like a rather weird phenomenon 653 00:27:51,700 --> 00:27:53,200 on a river's surface. 654 00:27:55,100 --> 00:27:57,530 William Shatner: It's a promising theory, but Joe's ice pans 655 00:27:57,667 --> 00:28:00,067 don't look like the spinning, perfect ice circles 656 00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:03,370 Brook Tyler photographed in Ontario. 657 00:28:03,500 --> 00:28:04,870 Back at the US Army 658 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:07,570 Cold Regions Research and Engineering Laboratory, 659 00:28:07,700 --> 00:28:09,630 Len Zabilansky is still having difficulty 660 00:28:09,767 --> 00:28:11,727 creating an ice circle in the lab. 661 00:28:13,300 --> 00:28:15,130 It's possible the rate of freezing is too slow, 662 00:28:15,266 --> 00:28:16,596 meaning new ice 663 00:28:16,734 --> 00:28:19,404 isn't filling in the gaps to make a circular shape. 664 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:24,870 So, that just shows you how delicate this process is, 665 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:26,930 when Mother Nature's generating these ice circles. 666 00:28:27,066 --> 00:28:30,166 William Shatner: Len decides to drop the ambient temperature. 667 00:28:30,300 --> 00:28:33,170 Len Zabilansky: We've just dropped the temperature two degrees, 668 00:28:33,300 --> 00:28:36,300 and we're generating more ice, and it's freezing faster. 669 00:28:36,433 --> 00:28:39,133 William Shatner: The experiment begins again. 670 00:28:39,266 --> 00:28:40,666 This time, 671 00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:43,000 the colder temperature is helping build the ice 672 00:28:43,133 --> 00:28:46,073 as quickly as it is melted or eroded away. 673 00:28:49,033 --> 00:28:50,933 Len Zabilansky: You can see that some of the ice 674 00:28:51,066 --> 00:28:52,726 is starting to freeze into a circle. 675 00:28:52,867 --> 00:28:54,997 William Shatner: As Len predicted, the ice is growing, 676 00:28:55,133 --> 00:28:58,333 thanks to new ice crystals joining from upstream 677 00:28:58,467 --> 00:29:01,827 and sheet ice growing out from the circle itself. 678 00:29:01,967 --> 00:29:04,327 If we let this run for another six to 12 hours, 679 00:29:04,467 --> 00:29:06,397 that ice will become very, very strong. 680 00:29:10,467 --> 00:29:12,997 William Shatner: Allowing his man-made river to flow for hours, 681 00:29:13,133 --> 00:29:14,503 Len hopes his experiment 682 00:29:14,633 --> 00:29:16,833 will produce a genuine ice circle. 683 00:29:16,967 --> 00:29:19,167 The results are remarkable. 684 00:29:19,300 --> 00:29:21,470 Len Zabilansky: This is the first time we've created 685 00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:24,500 an ice circle of this quality in the lab. 686 00:29:24,633 --> 00:29:26,133 Sometimes, we've been able to kick out. 687 00:29:26,266 --> 00:29:28,166 Sometimes, we almost had it, 688 00:29:28,300 --> 00:29:29,670 but this is the first one 689 00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:31,500 that's actually starting to become circular, 690 00:29:31,633 --> 00:29:33,673 because it's starting to be mature. 691 00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:36,330 William Shatner: For the first time, 692 00:29:36,467 --> 00:29:40,097 Zabilansky has shown one way ice circles can form. 693 00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:46,470 But many of these beautiful natural phenomena 694 00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:48,670 remain mysterious, and not just on earth. 695 00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:50,170 In 2010, 696 00:29:50,300 --> 00:29:52,170 NASA discovered circular grooves, 697 00:29:52,300 --> 00:29:53,670 hundreds of miles wide, 698 00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:55,670 etched into the surface of Europa, 699 00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:58,000 Jupiter's ice-bound moon. 700 00:29:58,133 --> 00:29:59,973 And that, for now, 701 00:30:00,100 --> 00:30:04,100 will remain weird, or what? 702 00:30:19,433 --> 00:30:22,673 A mother undergoes a routine DNA test. 703 00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:25,630 The results are seemingly beyond reason. 704 00:30:25,767 --> 00:30:28,827 She has two sets of DNA. 705 00:30:28,967 --> 00:30:30,597 Is it a cruel mistake, 706 00:30:30,734 --> 00:30:33,074 or is it possible for the genetic information 707 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:36,970 of two different people to exist in the same body? 708 00:30:37,100 --> 00:30:39,400 Weird, or what? 709 00:30:45,934 --> 00:30:47,674 ♪ 710 00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:50,270 Four unremarkable letters -- 711 00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:52,970 A, T, G and C -- 712 00:30:53,100 --> 00:30:55,930 that's all there are in our DNA alphabet. 713 00:30:56,066 --> 00:30:58,096 Take these four letters, multiply them by billions 714 00:30:58,233 --> 00:31:00,203 and arrange them in a unique sequence 715 00:31:00,333 --> 00:31:02,873 long enough to fill hundreds of telephone directories, 716 00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:06,200 and you have one strand of DNA -- 717 00:31:06,333 --> 00:31:10,303 the source of the information that makes you you and me me. 718 00:31:11,834 --> 00:31:15,174 But what if someone examined your DNA 719 00:31:15,300 --> 00:31:19,030 and revealed that you were not who you thought you were 720 00:31:19,166 --> 00:31:20,526 and, in fact, 721 00:31:20,667 --> 00:31:22,997 you were sharing your body with someone else? 722 00:31:23,133 --> 00:31:26,373 In 2002, Lydia Fairchild, 723 00:31:26,500 --> 00:31:28,900 mother to four children fathered by her partner, 724 00:31:29,033 --> 00:31:30,403 Jamie Townsend, 725 00:31:30,533 --> 00:31:32,933 applied for state benefits to help raise 726 00:31:33,066 --> 00:31:35,026 her young family. 727 00:31:35,166 --> 00:31:36,996 In accordance with state law, 728 00:31:37,133 --> 00:31:39,373 Lydia and her children had DNA tests 729 00:31:39,500 --> 00:31:40,870 to prove parentage. 730 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:42,830 At conception, we inherit 731 00:31:42,967 --> 00:31:46,267 half our DNA from our mother and half from our father. 732 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:49,800 When all is normal, every child will have 733 00:31:49,934 --> 00:31:51,804 a genetic inheritance that can be easily traced 734 00:31:51,934 --> 00:31:53,804 to both parents. 735 00:31:53,934 --> 00:31:55,774 But Lydia's DNA results 736 00:31:55,900 --> 00:31:58,670 would prove to be far from normal. 737 00:32:00,066 --> 00:32:01,426 Lydia Fairchild: I got a call, 738 00:32:01,567 --> 00:32:03,027 and the prosecutor 739 00:32:03,166 --> 00:32:06,596 had asked that I come up to the office. 740 00:32:06,734 --> 00:32:09,274 He started asking, like, 741 00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:11,230 was I trying to do fraud 742 00:32:11,367 --> 00:32:12,727 by getting help from the state, 743 00:32:12,867 --> 00:32:14,267 "because these kids aren't yours," 744 00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:16,270 and I stopped him for a minute. 745 00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:19,230 I was like, "What do you mean these kids aren't mine?" 746 00:32:19,367 --> 00:32:21,027 And he says, "Well, the tests came back. 747 00:32:21,166 --> 00:32:23,526 "Jamie is the father of all the kids, 748 00:32:23,667 --> 00:32:26,367 "but you are not the mother." 749 00:32:26,500 --> 00:32:29,370 William Shatner: The tests were repeated twice more, 750 00:32:29,500 --> 00:32:32,100 but, both times, the results were the same. 751 00:32:33,867 --> 00:32:35,227 Jamie was the father. 752 00:32:35,367 --> 00:32:38,697 None of the four children appeared to be related to Lydia. 753 00:32:38,834 --> 00:32:39,874 I was so scared. 754 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:42,330 They said that they were gonna take it to court 755 00:32:42,467 --> 00:32:45,197 because they didn't find that I was telling the truth. 756 00:32:45,333 --> 00:32:47,103 They thought I was lying. 757 00:32:47,233 --> 00:32:49,973 William Shatner: The state prosecutor started an investigation, 758 00:32:50,100 --> 00:32:52,430 and Lydia found herself in front of a judge. 759 00:32:52,567 --> 00:32:54,127 Lydia Fairchild: The judge looked at me, 760 00:32:54,266 --> 00:32:55,926 and he says, "Are these your children?" 761 00:32:56,066 --> 00:32:57,466 And I said, "Yes, they are. 762 00:32:57,600 --> 00:32:58,970 "You know, I got pregnant. 763 00:32:59,100 --> 00:33:00,630 "I carried them; I delivered them. 764 00:33:00,767 --> 00:33:03,397 "The doctor has ultrasounds of them being in my stomach." 765 00:33:03,533 --> 00:33:05,333 The judge said, "You opened a big can of worms." 766 00:33:05,467 --> 00:33:07,227 He's like, "We don't know what's going on here, 767 00:33:07,367 --> 00:33:08,697 "but we're gonna figure it out." 768 00:33:08,834 --> 00:33:12,704 Despite overwhelming evidence supporting Lydia's claim, 769 00:33:12,834 --> 00:33:16,874 four DNA tests show that she is not the biological mother 770 00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:19,030 of the children she gave birth to. 771 00:33:19,166 --> 00:33:20,526 But why? 772 00:33:20,667 --> 00:33:23,527 First and most obvious reason to be explored -- 773 00:33:23,667 --> 00:33:26,527 the possibility that the DNA tests 774 00:33:26,667 --> 00:33:28,497 could be wrong. 775 00:33:28,633 --> 00:33:31,533 To be told that DNA is essentially foolproof 776 00:33:31,667 --> 00:33:33,097 is very problematic. 777 00:33:33,233 --> 00:33:34,973 William Shatner: Dr. Kerry Bowman 778 00:33:35,100 --> 00:33:37,900 specializes in the ethics of medicine. 779 00:33:38,033 --> 00:33:39,773 Kerry Bowman: Many people in medicine, 780 00:33:39,900 --> 00:33:41,270 and I'm one of them, 781 00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:43,470 would say nothing in medicine is a hundred percent. 782 00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:45,870 It can get close to it, but it's not a hundred percent. 783 00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:48,830 The talk, though, with DNA, is that there's an exception 784 00:33:48,967 --> 00:33:53,867 and that DNA is virtually foolproof as a testing strategy, 785 00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:56,430 when, in fact, they may be rare, 786 00:33:56,567 --> 00:33:58,467 but there are exceptions to that. 787 00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:00,200 So, in fact, did Lydia 788 00:34:00,333 --> 00:34:02,103 really have a fair consent process? 789 00:34:02,233 --> 00:34:03,573 I would say not. 790 00:34:03,700 --> 00:34:05,800 William Shatner: Parental DNA tests themselves 791 00:34:05,934 --> 00:34:08,004 are more than 99% accurate, 792 00:34:08,133 --> 00:34:11,733 but humans can and do make mistakes. 793 00:34:11,867 --> 00:34:14,867 Had this happened to Lydia's tests? 794 00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:17,000 Perhaps, somehow, the samples got screwed up. 795 00:34:17,133 --> 00:34:20,503 Maybe they mixed up her DNA samples with some other woman's, 796 00:34:20,633 --> 00:34:22,833 and then, when they tested it, 797 00:34:22,967 --> 00:34:25,497 of course, it would show that it wasn't her kid. 798 00:34:25,633 --> 00:34:29,003 And my first goal was I was gonna ask the court 799 00:34:29,133 --> 00:34:32,033 to order a whole new set of DNA tests that were separate -- 800 00:34:32,166 --> 00:34:33,526 a new laboratory to do it -- 801 00:34:33,667 --> 00:34:35,167 to see if the second laboratory 802 00:34:35,300 --> 00:34:37,300 came back with the same problem. 803 00:34:37,433 --> 00:34:39,803 William Shatner: Medical mix-ups do happen. 804 00:34:39,934 --> 00:34:43,804 In 2002, Linda McDougal from Woodville, Wisconsin, 805 00:34:43,934 --> 00:34:45,804 was diagnosed with breast cancer 806 00:34:45,934 --> 00:34:47,374 and underwent a double mastectomy. 807 00:34:47,500 --> 00:34:49,730 However, two days after the operation, 808 00:34:49,867 --> 00:34:52,167 doctors told Linda it had all been a mistake. 809 00:34:52,300 --> 00:34:53,670 Her biopsy results 810 00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:56,030 had been accidentally switched with another patient's. 811 00:34:56,166 --> 00:34:58,426 Linda never had cancer, 812 00:34:58,567 --> 00:35:01,167 and so, the surgery had been completely unnecessary. 813 00:35:01,300 --> 00:35:06,230 Did a similar human error skew Lydia's DNA results, 814 00:35:06,367 --> 00:35:08,667 or is the real answer to this mystery 815 00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:12,970 beyond anything medical science has ever imagined? 816 00:35:13,100 --> 00:35:15,000 So, what is going on? 817 00:35:15,133 --> 00:35:16,473 Another theory suggests 818 00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:18,730 that Lydia could have given birth to her children 819 00:35:18,867 --> 00:35:20,967 and yet not have been their biological mother. 820 00:35:21,100 --> 00:35:23,170 It is speculated 821 00:35:23,300 --> 00:35:27,670 that Lydia was an IVF surrogate. 822 00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:30,170 So, what a surrogate pregnancy is 823 00:35:30,300 --> 00:35:32,500 is what used to be called test tube babies -- 824 00:35:32,633 --> 00:35:34,533 when egg and sperm 825 00:35:34,667 --> 00:35:37,327 are introduced outside the womb, 826 00:35:37,467 --> 00:35:39,267 in a lab condition. 827 00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:41,100 Put together, they create an embryo, 828 00:35:41,233 --> 00:35:43,103 and that embryo is then put into 829 00:35:43,233 --> 00:35:46,433 the uterus of a surrogate mother. 830 00:35:46,567 --> 00:35:49,427 So, this woman has no biological relationship to the child 831 00:35:49,567 --> 00:35:51,767 that she is carrying and will eventually bear. 832 00:35:51,900 --> 00:35:54,830 William Shatner: But why would Lydia have carried the fertilized eggs 833 00:35:54,967 --> 00:35:56,897 of another woman four times over? 834 00:35:57,033 --> 00:35:59,433 It certainly wouldn't benefit fraud. 835 00:35:59,567 --> 00:36:00,997 Kerry Bowman: IVF itself 836 00:36:01,133 --> 00:36:02,873 is extremely expensive, 837 00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:04,370 and to speak in American dollars, 838 00:36:04,500 --> 00:36:05,870 you could easily be talking about 839 00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:08,230 $30,000 or $50,000. 840 00:36:08,367 --> 00:36:10,667 And how someone like Lydia Fairchild 841 00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:13,530 would want or could possibly do this 842 00:36:13,667 --> 00:36:15,867 to create some kind of welfare scam, 843 00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:18,200 I can't even imagine how that would work. 844 00:36:18,333 --> 00:36:22,203 The costs simply don't line up to whatever benefits, um, 845 00:36:22,333 --> 00:36:25,373 someone could pull from this, in terms of a welfare scam. 846 00:36:25,500 --> 00:36:27,230 It doesn't make any sense. 847 00:36:27,367 --> 00:36:29,327 William Shatner: And as Dr. Chitayat explains, 848 00:36:29,467 --> 00:36:32,197 IVF is not something that can be done at home. 849 00:36:32,333 --> 00:36:34,333 David Chitayat: It's impossible to do in your kitchen, 850 00:36:34,467 --> 00:36:35,827 in-vitro fertilization. 851 00:36:35,967 --> 00:36:38,467 You have to stimulate the ovary of the mother, 852 00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:42,100 and you have to make sure that you don't over-stimulate, 853 00:36:42,233 --> 00:36:44,803 because then it will produce huge cysts in the ovary 854 00:36:44,934 --> 00:36:48,474 and can cause her to have dehydration and even death. 855 00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:51,130 So, it has to be monitored very carefully 856 00:36:51,266 --> 00:36:52,926 by expert in this field. 857 00:36:53,066 --> 00:36:56,396 William Shatner: There's an even bigger problem with this theory. 858 00:36:56,533 --> 00:36:58,633 The father of all four of Lydia's children 859 00:36:58,767 --> 00:37:00,697 had been confirmed as her partner, 860 00:37:00,834 --> 00:37:02,204 Jamie Townsend. 861 00:37:02,333 --> 00:37:03,703 Alan Tindell: It wasn't logical 862 00:37:03,834 --> 00:37:05,934 that somebody would hire Lydia to carry a surrogacy 863 00:37:06,066 --> 00:37:08,696 and then have them all fathered by Jamie Townsend. 864 00:37:08,834 --> 00:37:10,174 Why would they pick him? 865 00:37:10,300 --> 00:37:12,130 And besides that, the children didn't go off 866 00:37:12,266 --> 00:37:14,126 to live with the contracting people 867 00:37:14,266 --> 00:37:15,996 who had hired Lydia to be a surrogate. 868 00:37:16,133 --> 00:37:17,533 It was just illogical. 869 00:37:17,667 --> 00:37:20,197 I mean, it could have been an explanation that she was a-- 870 00:37:20,333 --> 00:37:22,333 That she was a surrogate parent, 871 00:37:22,467 --> 00:37:23,867 but I'd asked her, 872 00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:25,370 "Was there any surrogacy contract 873 00:37:25,500 --> 00:37:26,830 "between you and anybody else?" 874 00:37:26,967 --> 00:37:28,367 "No." 875 00:37:28,500 --> 00:37:30,970 She was adamant she was not a surrogate parent for anybody. 876 00:37:31,100 --> 00:37:35,170 William Shatner: The obvious answers were exhausted. 877 00:37:35,300 --> 00:37:37,570 Here was a case that made no sense to anyone. 878 00:37:39,133 --> 00:37:41,433 But a new theory was about to emerge -- 879 00:37:41,567 --> 00:37:44,267 an explanation for Lydia's DNA results 880 00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:46,200 as fantastically rare 881 00:37:46,333 --> 00:37:49,073 as it was biologically extraordinary. 882 00:37:55,967 --> 00:37:58,167 ♪ 883 00:37:58,300 --> 00:38:01,170 William Shatner: Lydia Fairchild is a biological marvel. 884 00:38:01,300 --> 00:38:04,000 In 2002, routine DNA tests 885 00:38:04,133 --> 00:38:06,473 taken for an application for US state benefits 886 00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:08,000 revealed she is 887 00:38:08,133 --> 00:38:12,133 genetically unrelated to her own children. 888 00:38:12,266 --> 00:38:13,966 This outcome was so incredible that, 889 00:38:14,100 --> 00:38:16,630 at first, it was believed to have been a mistake, 890 00:38:16,767 --> 00:38:18,867 or that she was somehow involved 891 00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:20,830 in an elaborate fraud. 892 00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:24,570 None of the theories seemed plausible, 893 00:38:24,700 --> 00:38:26,530 and the case seemed destined 894 00:38:26,667 --> 00:38:29,297 to remain as mysterious as it was bizarre, 895 00:38:29,433 --> 00:38:31,303 until Lydia's attorney discovered something 896 00:38:31,433 --> 00:38:34,173 almost too weird to be believed -- 897 00:38:34,300 --> 00:38:36,170 a description in a medical journal 898 00:38:36,300 --> 00:38:39,170 of a rare and almost unheard of genetic condition 899 00:38:39,300 --> 00:38:40,670 only known to affect 900 00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:44,300 around 40 people in the whole world, 901 00:38:44,433 --> 00:38:47,603 something called tetragametic chimerism. 902 00:38:49,133 --> 00:38:51,673 He was doing a little 903 00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:53,300 trolling on the internet, 904 00:38:53,433 --> 00:38:56,833 and he wondered if maybe it fit our scenario. 905 00:38:56,967 --> 00:38:58,327 So, I read it, 906 00:38:58,467 --> 00:38:59,897 as much of it as I could understand, 907 00:39:00,100 --> 00:39:02,200 but it sounded very much like what we were dealing with. 908 00:39:02,333 --> 00:39:05,873 So, I contacted Doctor Kruskall, 909 00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:07,700 who was one of the authors of the paper -- 910 00:39:07,834 --> 00:39:09,734 she's now deceased -- 911 00:39:09,867 --> 00:39:12,767 and, um, introduced myself on the phone and said, 912 00:39:12,900 --> 00:39:14,730 I think, "I read your article. 913 00:39:14,867 --> 00:39:17,027 "I think I have a case very much like it." 914 00:39:17,166 --> 00:39:19,396 Of course, they were intrigued about it. 915 00:39:19,533 --> 00:39:21,933 I said, "Could I send you the test results we have, 916 00:39:22,066 --> 00:39:23,726 "and maybe you can give us some insight 917 00:39:23,867 --> 00:39:25,227 "into what's happening here?" 918 00:39:25,367 --> 00:39:27,367 William Shatner: One way a chimera can form 919 00:39:27,500 --> 00:39:30,070 is when two separate eggs are fertilized by two sperm 920 00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:32,030 and then merge to form a single embryo. 921 00:39:32,166 --> 00:39:35,026 Put simply, it's two non-identical twins, 922 00:39:35,166 --> 00:39:37,526 merging, very early on in pregnancy. 923 00:39:37,667 --> 00:39:40,727 Their two sets of DNA are then intermingled 924 00:39:40,867 --> 00:39:43,767 throughout the body. 925 00:39:43,900 --> 00:39:46,530 If Lydia Fairchild was a chimera, 926 00:39:46,667 --> 00:39:49,197 it could explain how her biological children 927 00:39:49,333 --> 00:39:51,733 have different DNA. 928 00:39:51,867 --> 00:39:54,067 They would have inherited one set of DNA 929 00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:56,130 from one area of her body, 930 00:39:56,266 --> 00:39:58,366 while the laboratory sampled 931 00:39:58,500 --> 00:40:00,300 other areas that contained a completely 932 00:40:00,433 --> 00:40:02,273 different set of DNA. 933 00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:05,400 The problem with chimerism is that you have to actually 934 00:40:05,533 --> 00:40:07,773 do biopsies from different body organs -- 935 00:40:07,900 --> 00:40:10,470 liver, kidney, intestine, perhaps -- 936 00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:14,000 and find out if all of them contain 937 00:40:14,133 --> 00:40:16,903 the same genetic material as we check in the blood. 938 00:40:17,033 --> 00:40:20,603 William Shatner: Lydia was sent back for more DNA tests. 939 00:40:20,734 --> 00:40:23,134 This time, they took samples from all over her body. 940 00:40:25,266 --> 00:40:28,496 And my hair, blood and swabs from my cheek 941 00:40:28,633 --> 00:40:30,473 came back as the same DNA, 942 00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:33,470 but my cervical smear came back as a different DNA, 943 00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:36,230 and it was actually the DNA that matched my children. 944 00:40:38,033 --> 00:40:39,803 The chimera theory was confirmed. 945 00:40:39,934 --> 00:40:41,334 Incredibly, 946 00:40:41,467 --> 00:40:44,497 Lydia Fairchild has two sets of DNA, 947 00:40:44,633 --> 00:40:48,333 the DNA in Lydia's ovaries being completely different 948 00:40:48,467 --> 00:40:52,097 from the DNA found in the rest of her body. 949 00:40:52,233 --> 00:40:54,573 David Chitayat: Lydia Fairchild shows 950 00:40:54,700 --> 00:40:56,030 that DNA testing, 951 00:40:56,166 --> 00:40:58,566 fingerprinting, may not be perfect. 952 00:40:58,700 --> 00:41:00,800 So, what happened in her 953 00:41:00,934 --> 00:41:04,604 was that the ovaries were produced 954 00:41:04,734 --> 00:41:08,134 by different cells than the cells that produced 955 00:41:08,266 --> 00:41:10,966 the white blood cells and the platelets in her blood. 956 00:41:11,100 --> 00:41:14,070 Lydia Fairchild: And your ovaries are what holds your eggs. 957 00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:16,700 So, when your egg comes down and then you get pregnant, 958 00:41:16,834 --> 00:41:20,034 your child is gonna carry the DNA that's in your ovaries. 959 00:41:20,166 --> 00:41:22,496 William Shatner: Amazingly, Lydia's children 960 00:41:22,633 --> 00:41:24,633 had inherited their DNA 961 00:41:24,767 --> 00:41:28,727 from the non-identical twin that Lydia's embryo fused with 962 00:41:28,867 --> 00:41:31,427 just after Lydia was conceived. 963 00:41:31,567 --> 00:41:34,597 There was a final court hearing, 964 00:41:34,734 --> 00:41:36,934 and the judge, 965 00:41:37,066 --> 00:41:38,426 he granted me my children, 966 00:41:38,567 --> 00:41:39,997 that I am the biological mom of my kids, 967 00:41:40,133 --> 00:41:42,503 and I remember crying so bad that I finally won, 968 00:41:42,633 --> 00:41:44,003 after all that fighting I did. 969 00:41:44,133 --> 00:41:46,533 I believe it was two-and-a-half years I fought for my kids 970 00:41:46,667 --> 00:41:48,267 to keep them in my life. 971 00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:50,770 William Shatner: Lydia's world had been changed forever. 972 00:41:50,900 --> 00:41:54,500 She is one of only about 40 people on the planet 973 00:41:54,633 --> 00:41:56,633 known to be a chimera. 974 00:41:56,767 --> 00:41:58,497 Lydia Fairchild: If I never did that DNA test 975 00:41:58,633 --> 00:42:00,203 to determine if he was the father or not, 976 00:42:00,333 --> 00:42:02,333 I would never have known today that I was chimera. 977 00:42:02,467 --> 00:42:03,827 I mean, I would never know. 978 00:42:03,967 --> 00:42:07,097 William Shatner: Doctors believe there are many more, as yet, 979 00:42:07,233 --> 00:42:09,003 unidentified chimeras out there. 980 00:42:09,133 --> 00:42:11,403 Could someone you know 981 00:42:11,533 --> 00:42:13,373 have an extra set of DNA 982 00:42:13,500 --> 00:42:15,400 they got from their own embryonic twin 983 00:42:15,533 --> 00:42:17,173 without them even knowing it? 984 00:42:18,700 --> 00:42:20,630 Weird, or what? 985 00:42:34,934 --> 00:42:36,304 So, there we have it -- 986 00:42:36,433 --> 00:42:38,333 three weird stories, 987 00:42:38,467 --> 00:42:41,267 each with several competing theories. 988 00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:43,870 A man undergoes a life-saving heart transplant procedure 989 00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:46,030 but gets more than he bargained for -- 990 00:42:46,166 --> 00:42:47,526 a new organ 991 00:42:47,667 --> 00:42:50,967 and a new personality. 992 00:42:51,100 --> 00:42:53,500 Is this simply psychological or the side effects 993 00:42:53,633 --> 00:42:55,533 of medicinal drugs? 994 00:42:55,667 --> 00:42:59,567 Or can the heart or even individual human cells 995 00:42:59,700 --> 00:43:01,630 store a person's memories 996 00:43:01,767 --> 00:43:03,397 and characteristics? 997 00:43:03,533 --> 00:43:05,803 Around the world, 998 00:43:05,934 --> 00:43:07,474 perfect, beautiful, spinning circles of ice 999 00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:10,730 forming in lakes and rivers -- 1000 00:43:10,867 --> 00:43:14,567 are they the winter cousins of the infamous crop circle? 1001 00:43:14,700 --> 00:43:17,070 Or does science have the answers? 1002 00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:18,970 A mother is revealed to be 1003 00:43:19,100 --> 00:43:21,170 genetically unrelated to her own children. 1004 00:43:21,300 --> 00:43:23,730 Is she trying to commit fraud, 1005 00:43:23,867 --> 00:43:27,067 or is she the victim of a series of DNA mix-ups, 1006 00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:31,170 or are we dealing with a rare 1007 00:43:31,300 --> 00:43:33,730 and extraordinary genetic oddity? 1008 00:43:35,734 --> 00:43:38,174 Join me next time for more stories 1009 00:43:38,300 --> 00:43:40,270 that will undoubtedly 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