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William Shatner:
You know what?
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I've been around for a while.
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I've travelled the world,
met some interesting people,
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done some crazy things.
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So, you might just
think there's not much
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that could
take me by surprise.
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You'd be wrong.
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The world is full
of stories and science
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and things that
amaze and confound me
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every single day,
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incredible mysteries
that keep me awake at night.
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Some I can answer.
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Others just defy logic.
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Can people move from the present
into the past or future?
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Eyewitnesses report a woman
materializing from thin air.
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Could she be
a time traveller?
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An ancient stone structure
suggests the incredible.
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Did ancient Pagan worshippers
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practice human sacrifice
in New Hampshire?
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Plants seem to
possess strange powers,
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allowing them
to detect human thought.
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Are they sentient beings
with dark intent?
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Om-nom!
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Yep...
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it's a weird world.
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And I love it.
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One minute.
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I'm sorry,
I just--
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I couldn't
put this book down --
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The Time Machine,
written in 1895 by H.G. Wells.
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With this one book,
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a hot new science fiction
genre was born --
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the time travel story.
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Now, of course,
there are endless books,
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films and TV shows
on the subject
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of the mind-boggling paradoxes
of journeying across time.
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Great stuff.
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Shame the concept
of time travel is just fiction,
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isn't it?
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Isn't it?
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On July 15th, 2006,
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famed science fiction author
Whitley Strieber,
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best known for his books
The Hunger and Communion,
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was out at the theatre
with his wife, Anne,
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and her friend Starfire Tor.
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Little did they know
what would happen that night
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would rival anything
found in Whitley's books.
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Nothing seems
impossible to me anymore.
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I haven't talked
about it very much.
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William Shatner:
After dinner,
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Anne and her friend
went into what they thought
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was an empty ladies room.
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Well, it's a
very small room,
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about 10 x 12.
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There was nobody
in that room except for
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Anne Strieber and myself.
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Whitley Strieber:
So, I was standing
on these steps.
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No one went in it after
the two of them went in it,
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and I was watching
the entire time.
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Anne was
a little bit before me,
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and she left
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and said she would
wait for me outside.
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So, I went outside,
stood by the door,
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waiting for Starfire.
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As I slightly
rounded the corner,
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coming out of the stall,
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a woman just materialized.
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Whoa!
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She didn't seem to
understand where she was.
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She seemed confused,
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and then she just
left the room.
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Anne Strieber:
While I was standing there,
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a woman came out.
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Starfire Tor:
I go out the door
to the ladies room,
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and Anne Strieber
rushes up to me,
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very, very excited.
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She says, "A lady came out,
but she didn't go in!
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"A lady came out,
but she didn't go in!"
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This was pretty amazing
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because we knew no one
was in there when we went in.
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So, how could
someone have come out
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who was never in there
in the first place?
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No one, absolutely no one,
went in that bathroom.
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William Shatner:
Who was this mysterious woman?
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And how could she
have appeared from nowhere?
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For the eyewitnesses,
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this is no ghost story.
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For them,
the answer is much weirder.
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Starfire Tor:
Something altered the timelines.
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We were brought together
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like a bad edit of a film,
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and that's how
we almost collided.
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Right.
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Two women go
into an empty bathroom,
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and three women come out.
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Is it really possible
this mystery woman
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slipped through
from another time?
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Is that weird, or what?
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I'd say that's the weirdest
'weird or what' yet.
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Yeah, it's pretty far out,
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but, remarkably,
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time travel
may indeed be possible,
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and proof could soon be found
in a 17-mile tunnel,
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deep underground
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at the border
of France and Switzerland.
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This is the
Large Hadron Collider,
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an atom smasher designed
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to recreate conditions
that last existed
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just after the Big Bang,
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when the universe was less than
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a trillionth of a second old.
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Scientists at the LHC are trying
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to understand what happened
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in that critical moment
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to make our universe
what it is.
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By solving this,
they hope to shed light
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on some of the most fundamental
unanswered questions in physics.
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Michio Kaku:
With the Large Hadron Collider,
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perhaps, one day,
we'll be able to answer
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these cosmic questions.
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What happened
before the Big Bang?
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Is it possible to go
through a black hole?
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Can you bend time
into a pretzel?
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We're now entering the cusp,
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the cusp of human progress.
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A hundred years ago,
think how primitive we are.
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A hundred years from now,
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think of how advanced computers,
artificial intelligence will be.
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Right now,
we're at the most
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interesting point
in human history,
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the cusp when we're gonna
rocket through the universe.
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William Shatner:
A complete understanding
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of how the entire universe
is really constructed
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might enable
future physicists
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to find a way to manipulate
the fabric of space-time itself
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and travel into
the past or future.
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But can we really
manipulate time?
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To find out,
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we first need
to investigate time itself.
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Isaac Newton
imagined time as an arrow,
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always travelling
straightforward
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in one direction.
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But then,
Albert Einstein came along
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and said that time
is more like a river
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that can meander,
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flow at different speeds,
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and even eddy
back upon itself.
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Dan Falk:
We look at a river,
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and we think the spot
on the river where we are
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is something like
the present moment,
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and then upstream from us
is the future.
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This is coming towards us.
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It's relentless.
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It's sort of inevitable.
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In a moment,
what was up there
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is gonna be here,
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and downstream from us,
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So, these are events
that have already happened.
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So, there you have it.
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You've got the future;
you've got the present moment.
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You've got the past.
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William Shatner:
Is it possible
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to go against
the flow of time,
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into the future?
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Or move
even further downstream,
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into the past?
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William Shatner:
Going back in time
is simple, theoretically.
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All we need to do
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is beat light
to its destination --
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travel faster
than light speed.
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How fast is that?
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Well, as Albert Einstein
figured out,
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light travels at a fixed
and constant speed,
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throughout the universe,
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of 186,000 miles per second.
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And the Space Shuttle can travel
around five miles per second.
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So, we have
a bit of a problem.
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But our hopes of meeting
our ancestors aren't over yet.
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Modern physicists have built
on Einstein's theories
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and discovered that although
we may not be able to beat light
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in a head-to-head race,
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we might be able to cheat
and take a short cut.
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Going back in time is simple,
theoretically.
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To do this,
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a time traveller would need
to bend the fabric of space,
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connecting two distant points,
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to create a theoretical tunnel
through space and time
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known as a wormhole.
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Think of Alice in Wonderland.
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She had a looking glass,
and she put her hand through it,
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and her hand went
to the other side of forever.
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That is a wormhole.
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William Shatner:
But could we manipulate
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the very fabric
of time and space?
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Michio Kaku:
If we have something called
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negative matter
or negative energy,
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it might be possible to build
a gateway to another universe,
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a gateway to
another point in space or time.
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Now, of course,
in science fiction,
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we have the
dilithium crystals of Star Trek.
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People talk about spice.
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People talk about
other exotic chemicals
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that will
open these gateways.
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Well, I'm a physicist.
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To us, it's negative matter
or negative energy.
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Negative energy,
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we can actually create
in the laboratory.
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That's already been done
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but only
in microscopic quantities.
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Negative matter,
we've never seen before.
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If we can find a negative matter
meteorite in outer space,
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just perhaps
maybe we can harness it
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to open a gateway
to another universe.
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William Shatner:
The only problem is
the amount of energy required
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to punch a hole to the
other side of the universe
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is impossible for us to achieve
with our current technology.
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We're talking about
the energy of a black hole,
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the energy of a star,
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in order to
bend time into a pretzel.
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What do you mean it's
impractical to go back in time?
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Can't make a wormhole?
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What's wrong
with these eggheads?
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Okay, so,
travelling into the past
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might be a tad
beyond our reach,
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but here's
something surprising.
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Most physicists
believe it's possible,
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relatively easy,
in fact,
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to travel
into the future.
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William Shatner:
A woman mysteriously
appears from nowhere
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in Los Angeles.
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Eyewitnesses claim
she's a time traveller.
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It's weird, or what?
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Could a person
really move through time?
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Well, as it turns out,
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travelling to the future
is not only possible,
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it's actually
relatively easy.
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How do you exploit
Einstein's theory of relativity
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to travel
into the future?
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Well, it turns out
it's not that hard to do.
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Now, it's hard from
an engineering point of view.
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You just need a really fast
spaceship, which we don't have.
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But if you had one,
here's what you do.
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You just go on a long journey
and come back home.
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William Shatner:
Remarkably, this is possible,
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because time
behaves differently
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when an object or person
travels at high velocities.
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It's called time dilation.
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Dan Falk:
If you move fast enough,
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your clock will disagree
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from a clock
that's been left at home.
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A similar thing can happen
if you spend a lot of time
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in a strong
gravitational field,
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like near a black hole,
for example.
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William Shatner:
This amazing feat
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has actually
already been accomplished.
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Russian cosmonaut
Sergei Krikalev
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has spent more time in space
than any other human being.
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From 1988 to 2005,
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Krikalev spent 803 days
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orbiting the earth
at high speed.
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At times,
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Krikalev was travelling
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at 17,000 miles per hour --
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nowhere near
the speed of light
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but fast enough
to travel forward in time.
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It's only about
1/50 of a second,
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so it's almost
too small to even notice,
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but he has aged
just a little bit less than--
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Let's say,
if he had had a twin brother
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who had stayed on the ground,
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he's just a little bit younger
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than his brother
would have been.
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William Shatner:
Using this theory,
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it may be possible
to travel
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thousands of years
into the future.
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Imagine travelling all the way
around the circumference
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of the milky way galaxy,
our galaxy.
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Now, it's very big,
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it's about
150,000 light years around.
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So, it's going to
take a long time.
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You start accelerating
at a rate of one G,
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which is the normal
force of gravity
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that you feel
just sitting here.
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So, you have
this very mild acceleration,
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but you keep it up long enough,
you eventually go very fast.
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When you get halfway around,
you start decelerating,
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and, after many,
many more years,
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you end up back on earth,
where you started from.
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Here's the thing.
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To someone who
has stayed at home
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and just watched you go
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and is waiting
for your return,
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they have a long wait
'cause it's going to take
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150,000 years
before you come back.
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But for you,
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from your point of view
onboard this spaceship,
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only 23 years will have passed.
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William Shatner:
So, although
it seems impossible,
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time travel is,
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theoretically at least, real.
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And the Large Hadron Collider
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could yet witness
science fiction
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become
functioning science fact.
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So, is it possible
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the mystery figure
that appeared that night
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in Los Angeles
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was really a time traveller?
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Perhaps even from a future
where science had finally
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answered the
secrets of the universe
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and were now able
to manipulate time?
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Could be!
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So, one day,
if somebody knocks on your door
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and claims to be your
great great great great great
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great great granddaughter,
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don't slam the door.
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William Shatner:
Is that weird, or what?
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A mysterious set
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of stone structures
in rural New Hampshire --
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could this be
a place of Pagan worship
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and human sacrifice
thousands of years old?
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The astronomical alignments
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are one of the
key pieces of evidence
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that this site is ancient.
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William Shatner:
Does this mean
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ancient Europeans
crossed the Atlantic
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thousands of years
before Columbus?
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David Brody:
So, it really does open up
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a whole different way to
look at North American history.
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William Shatner:
What is this place?
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Who built it?
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And what could
its existence mean for America?
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Could an innocent-looking
pile of rocks,
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tucked away in the corner
of a farmer's field
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in the
northeastern United States
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challenge everything we think
we know about American history?
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What if
the first European
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to arrive
in North America
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wasn't Christopher Columbus
or even a Viking?
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What if,
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instead of coming to New England
in search of religious freedom,
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the first European
settlers came...
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to practice human sacrifice?
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In Salem, New Hampshire,
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a mysterious grouping
of Megalithic stones,
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standing 14' high,
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surround a compound that houses
a maze of 8'-long chambers
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and crypts
set into the ground.
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The centerpiece --
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a huge stone slab
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that looks like
a sacrificial table.
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This is Dennis Stone.
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His family has owned the site
for three generations,
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and he has an amazing theory.
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Stone believes that this is
the oldest man-made structure
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in the entire United States.
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If it is,
in fact, ancient
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and was built
by old world people,
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this would demonstrate
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that people crossed
the Atlantic Ocean
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a few thousand years
before Christopher Columbus
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or even the Vikings
came to America.
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Sounds crazy, doesn't it,
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the very idea that
explorers pre-dating Columbus
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by millennia
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might have crossed the Atlantic
and made America their home?
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Well...
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before you dismiss the idea,
consider this.
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It was only in 1960
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that the Norwegian
archeologist Anne Ingstad
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was ridiculed
when she proposed her idea
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that Vikings
had settled North America
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in the 12th century.
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But it turned out to be true.
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Ingstad's discovery
changed history,
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and the Viking settlement
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she found
in Newfoundland, Canada,
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is now an official
world heritage site.
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Could this structure
have been built
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by mysterious
ancient travellers?
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Stone believes
similarities between his site
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and archeological sites
in Europe
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hold the key
to uncovering the truth.
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We have
a couple of chambers here
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that are very reminiscent
of chambers found
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in France, Ireland,
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Spain, the Netherlands.
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One of the purposes
we know of
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is that they were used
for astronomical alignments,
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and it's also stones that align
with cross-quarter days,
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days in between the seasons.
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The ancient Celts and other
cultures actually set up stones,
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which would mark these times.
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William Shatner:
The Celts --
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a diverse group
of tribes that dominated
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much of Central Europe
until around 1600 years ago.
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Stone remnants
of Celtic structures,
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including
elaborate burial chambers,
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can be found
all over Europe.
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It has also been suggested
that the Celts were involved
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in the construction of England's
most famous ancient megalith,
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Stonehenge --
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a site some believe
was created
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as a giant astronomical tool,
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its stones aligned
to the solstice positions
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of the sun and moon.
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Did Celts come
and settle America
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a thousand years
before Columbus?
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In the 1970s,
Barry Fell,
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again,
a professor at Harvard,
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stumbled upon a stone
carved here on site,
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and the kind of writing
that was on the stone
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was something called
Iberian Punic.
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The Iberian peninsula area,
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at that time,
housed the Celts.
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William Shatner:
David Brody is an amateur
archeological researcher.
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He supports the idea
that the Celts, not Columbus,
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were the first Europeans
to reach the New World.
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We think of the Celts
as being from Ireland, but,
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actually, they originated
in central Europe
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and then went down
to the Iberian peninsula.
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But it's the Celts leaving
the Iberian peninsula region
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that I think came over here
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and established the site
at America's Stonehenge.
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This place is becoming
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weirder and weirder
by the minute.
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So, who the heck was it
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hanging around these woods
all that time ago?
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And what where they doing?
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Could this site in New England
share the same purpose
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as the original Stonehenge
in old England --
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a prehistoric monument
of huge,
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carefully aligned stones,
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assembled by ancient Britons
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for some mysterious
pagan purpose?
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♪
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William Shatner:
In the forests outside
of Salem, New Hampshire --
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a bizarre stone structure
with several huge chambers
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and what looks like
a huge sacrificial table.
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Could this be proof
ancient Celts came to America?
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If the Celts did build
this American Stonehenge
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as a religious site,
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then Dennis Stone
has some striking ideas
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as to what ceremonies
would have been performed here.
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I'm standing next to
the sacrificial table.
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It's one of the main features
at America's Stonehenge.
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This table measures
about 9' in length,
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6' in width,
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and it sits
on four stone legs.
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On the surface
of the stone,
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there's a
rectangular cutout or groove
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that's been made
on the surface,
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and it has a little runoff.
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So, if a ceremony of some type
was taking place,
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a fluid could run
through the channel
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and then
run off the stone,
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into a vase, perhaps.
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William Shatner:
Although little
is directly known
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of the Celts'
religious practices,
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the Romans who fought them,
and even Julius Caesar himself,
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often described
how Celtic Druids or Priests
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carried out human sacrifice
to honour their many pagan gods.
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00:20:46,633 --> 00:20:48,166
The discovery of various
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ancient sites
of ritualized murder
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in Europe may support this.
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The stone table in Salem
also has another,
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even more bizarre feature
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Dennis Stone calls
an oracle tube.
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Dennis Stone:
This tube goes through about 8',
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comes out underneath
the sacrificial table.
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A voice would
project out under the table,
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during a ceremony, perhaps,
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and people would
hear the voice
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and think it was a god
or spirit talking to them.
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I am the god
of the underworld.
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I accept your sacrifice.
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Remember,
always obey the priest.
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When ancient man
went to the effort
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to build
something this elaborate,
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it was done for
religious purposes,
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and, again,
that takes me back to the Celts,
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perhaps 500 B.C.
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That's the type of thing
that they did all over Europe
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at that time
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and would have done here
if they came to America.
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William Shatner:
America settled
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by Iron Age Europeans.
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It's an explosive theory,
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00:21:44,867 --> 00:21:48,333
but not one exactly shared
by many experts.
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James Gage:
Research since the 1940s
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has shown there's
a great deal of differences
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between what we find in Ireland
and what is found at this site.
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There are major differences
in the architectural styles.
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There are differences
in the engineering
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of how the buildings
are put together.
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William Shatner:
An expert in
prehistoric stone structures,
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James Gage also believes
that an ancient civilization
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built this place,
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but, based on carvings
in the stones themselves,
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his theory is that
the structure was created
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by a more local people,
Native Americans.
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First and foremost
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is the large number
of Native American artifacts
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that have been
found at the site.
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And these artifacts
range from, you know,
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scrapers and projectile points,
stuff we normally expect,
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to paint cups
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and rubbing stones.
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This evidence
also includes clay pottery
514
00:22:43,734 --> 00:22:47,333
that they were
actually manufacturing on site.
515
00:22:47,467 --> 00:22:50,333
One of the more interesting
features about this site
516
00:22:50,467 --> 00:22:53,900
is it has
a number of peck grooves,
517
00:22:54,033 --> 00:22:55,400
chipped-out stone basins,
518
00:22:55,533 --> 00:22:59,066
and they've all been created
by pecking out the stone,
519
00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:00,667
using a hammer stone.
520
00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:02,233
And this pecking technique
521
00:23:02,367 --> 00:23:05,500
is very distinctive
to the Native Americans.
522
00:23:07,367 --> 00:23:10,900
The Celtic culture was
a fairly advanced civilization.
523
00:23:11,033 --> 00:23:13,400
It had metal tools.
524
00:23:13,533 --> 00:23:15,734
They were
making gold artifacts.
525
00:23:15,867 --> 00:23:18,233
We would expect them to use,
526
00:23:18,367 --> 00:23:20,266
you know,
more advanced technology,
527
00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:22,867
other than
just simple hammer stones.
528
00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:27,066
William Shatner:
The Native American theory
makes obvious sense,
529
00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:30,066
but not according
to David Brody.
530
00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:32,066
Native Americans
of this area of the country
531
00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:33,934
did not
typically build with stone.
532
00:23:34,066 --> 00:23:35,433
They had stone tools,
533
00:23:35,567 --> 00:23:37,233
and they used stone
to build their hearths,
534
00:23:37,367 --> 00:23:39,166
but they didn't build
these elaborate structures,
535
00:23:39,300 --> 00:23:40,667
typically,
out of stone.
536
00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:42,734
Once in a while,
we see a sweat lodge,
537
00:23:42,867 --> 00:23:44,767
but there's too many
of these chambers here.
538
00:23:44,900 --> 00:23:47,033
In addition,
the Native American tribes,
539
00:23:47,166 --> 00:23:48,333
although a lot
of their history
540
00:23:48,467 --> 00:23:50,333
has been wiped out
in the New England region,
541
00:23:50,467 --> 00:23:52,000
they don't take ownership
of this site
542
00:23:52,133 --> 00:23:53,667
like they take ownership
of other sites
543
00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:55,233
that they believe
they did build.
544
00:23:55,367 --> 00:23:57,200
So, I'm not gonna tell you
that they didn't do it,
545
00:23:57,333 --> 00:23:58,967
but I think
the weight of the evidence
546
00:23:59,100 --> 00:24:02,066
is more in favour of some kind
of ancient seafaring,
547
00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:03,700
European civilization.
548
00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:08,600
William Shatner:
So, while these
experts can't agree
549
00:24:08,734 --> 00:24:11,567
which ancient civilization
built the American Stonehenge,
550
00:24:11,700 --> 00:24:15,400
another archeologist,
Kenny Feder,
551
00:24:15,533 --> 00:24:17,800
believes whoever is responsible
552
00:24:17,934 --> 00:24:20,000
wasn't ancient at all.
553
00:24:20,133 --> 00:24:22,367
Kenny Feder:
Celts in New England
3,000 years ago?
554
00:24:22,500 --> 00:24:24,400
I don't think so, but, okay.
555
00:24:24,533 --> 00:24:26,467
Archeological sites
where people were so neat
556
00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:29,066
that they picked
every stinking artifact up
557
00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:31,066
and left no
physical evidence behind?
558
00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:33,166
Not bloody likely.
559
00:24:35,033 --> 00:24:38,567
Okay, it looks like
we're back to square one.
560
00:24:38,700 --> 00:24:41,934
So, who could it have been
561
00:24:42,066 --> 00:24:44,400
that built those
incredibly weird structures?
562
00:24:44,533 --> 00:24:45,900
Was it the Celts?
563
00:24:46,033 --> 00:24:47,400
Unlikely.
564
00:24:47,533 --> 00:24:48,900
The Native Americans?
565
00:24:49,033 --> 00:24:50,400
Maybe not.
566
00:24:50,533 --> 00:24:53,934
Well, how about another,
slightly less romantic theory?
567
00:24:56,133 --> 00:24:57,700
What if it was assembled
568
00:24:57,834 --> 00:25:00,333
by a couple of drunken
18th century farmers?
569
00:25:06,900 --> 00:25:09,767
If America's Stonehenge
is what I think it is,
570
00:25:09,900 --> 00:25:14,233
which is 19th century
idiosyncratic structures,
571
00:25:14,367 --> 00:25:16,500
that doesn't make it
any less important
572
00:25:16,633 --> 00:25:19,333
than if it's
a 3,000-year-old site
573
00:25:19,467 --> 00:25:21,567
with Celts traipsing around
in southern New England.
574
00:25:21,700 --> 00:25:23,567
Makes it
of different significance,
575
00:25:23,700 --> 00:25:25,567
but I don't think
it makes it less significant.
576
00:25:25,700 --> 00:25:27,667
It just makes it different.
577
00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:29,700
William Shatner:
Feder's theory is the structures
578
00:25:29,834 --> 00:25:32,400
were constructed
by the descendants of the Celts,
579
00:25:32,533 --> 00:25:34,934
the better-known
European settlers
580
00:25:35,066 --> 00:25:38,333
that came in the centuries
after Christopher Columbus,
581
00:25:38,467 --> 00:25:39,867
bringing with them
582
00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:42,900
traditional ways
of building stone structures.
583
00:25:43,033 --> 00:25:47,333
Kenny Feder:
Yeah, damn right,
they were Celts,
584
00:25:47,467 --> 00:25:51,166
but they were Celts
from the 1800s and 1700s
585
00:25:51,300 --> 00:25:53,333
because those were
the people who moved here.
586
00:25:53,467 --> 00:25:55,166
William Shatner:
Good point,
587
00:25:55,300 --> 00:25:58,667
but can the more recent
Celtic immigration theory
588
00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:00,233
explain the existence
589
00:26:00,367 --> 00:26:04,133
of the site's
most macabre-looking object?
590
00:26:04,266 --> 00:26:07,100
Why does American Stonehenge
591
00:26:07,233 --> 00:26:09,867
have a sacrificial table?
592
00:26:16,900 --> 00:26:20,133
♪
593
00:26:20,266 --> 00:26:22,066
William Shatner:
A mysterious stone structure
594
00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:23,800
sits in the forests
of New Hampshire.
595
00:26:23,934 --> 00:26:26,200
Some believe this is proof
that ancient Celtic
596
00:26:26,333 --> 00:26:28,433
tribes of Europe
came to America,
597
00:26:28,567 --> 00:26:32,233
others that Native Americans
built this site.
598
00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:37,734
The strangest part
of this American Stonehenge?
599
00:26:37,867 --> 00:26:41,433
A 9'-long stone table
some experts think
600
00:26:41,567 --> 00:26:43,867
could have been used
for human sacrifice.
601
00:26:45,700 --> 00:26:49,066
Archeologist Kenny Feder
dismisses such ideas.
602
00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:51,400
He thinks the structure
was constructed
603
00:26:51,533 --> 00:26:53,400
within the last
few hundred years
604
00:26:53,533 --> 00:26:56,333
by more recent
European settlers.
605
00:26:56,467 --> 00:26:57,900
So, you're sort of
left with a choice.
606
00:26:58,033 --> 00:27:01,834
Either there was this, like,
widespread practice
607
00:27:01,967 --> 00:27:04,967
of human sacrifice
throughout New England,
608
00:27:05,100 --> 00:27:06,467
or we've got
something else going on,
609
00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:08,800
and I think it's
something else that's going on.
610
00:27:08,934 --> 00:27:10,633
We do know
that stones like that
611
00:27:10,767 --> 00:27:12,133
are found
throughout New England,
612
00:27:12,266 --> 00:27:15,166
and they were used for a number
of kind of mundane purposes,
613
00:27:15,300 --> 00:27:16,667
not sacrificing people but,
614
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:18,200
in fact,
615
00:27:18,333 --> 00:27:21,734
maybe making apple cider
or producing lye soap.
616
00:27:21,867 --> 00:27:24,467
The deal is that
an artifact like that,
617
00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:27,400
an object like that,
is something that we--
618
00:27:27,533 --> 00:27:29,633
In the modern world,
we suffer from cultural amnesia.
619
00:27:29,767 --> 00:27:31,467
We don't press our own cider.
620
00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:34,133
We don't make lye soap anymore,
so the objects,
621
00:27:34,266 --> 00:27:36,467
the artifacts
from that period
622
00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:38,734
that any little kid
would be able to tell you,
623
00:27:38,867 --> 00:27:40,734
"Oh, yeah,
we use that for making soap,"
624
00:27:40,867 --> 00:27:42,734
today,
it's mysterious.
625
00:27:45,233 --> 00:27:48,066
William Shatner:
So, are the drainage grooves
on the four-tonne stone table
626
00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:51,233
actually for apple juice,
not human blood?
627
00:27:51,367 --> 00:27:53,767
It may be
the most plausible theory,
628
00:27:53,900 --> 00:27:56,767
but the mystery
of the American Stonehenge
629
00:27:56,900 --> 00:27:59,333
cannot be cleared up
quite so neatly.
630
00:28:01,166 --> 00:28:03,767
Charcoal pits at the site
have been carbon dated
631
00:28:03,900 --> 00:28:06,600
and believed to be
more than 2,000 years old,
632
00:28:06,734 --> 00:28:11,300
and Dennis Stone still believes
his site is proof
633
00:28:11,433 --> 00:28:12,800
that an ancient people
634
00:28:12,934 --> 00:28:14,800
commemorated the coming
of the solstices here,
635
00:28:14,934 --> 00:28:18,066
exactly as they
may have done
636
00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:20,967
at the real Stonehenge.
637
00:28:21,100 --> 00:28:23,300
Dennis Stone:
The astronomical alignments
638
00:28:23,433 --> 00:28:25,800
are one of the
key pieces of evidence
639
00:28:25,934 --> 00:28:28,000
that this site is ancient.
640
00:28:28,133 --> 00:28:29,900
The alignments
do not work today.
641
00:28:30,033 --> 00:28:31,400
They're off
a certain amount,
642
00:28:31,533 --> 00:28:32,900
due to
the earth's tilt changing.
643
00:28:33,033 --> 00:28:34,400
In 1977,
644
00:28:34,533 --> 00:28:36,467
we took four years' worth
of survey data.
645
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:38,433
We sent it to the
Harvard Smithsonian Centre
646
00:28:38,567 --> 00:28:40,400
for astrophysics
in Cambridge, Mass.
647
00:28:40,533 --> 00:28:41,934
They ran it
through the computer,
648
00:28:42,066 --> 00:28:44,867
and they said that if these were
used for astronomical purposes,
649
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:46,433
they would work
about 1800 B.C.,
650
00:28:46,567 --> 00:28:48,400
plus or minus
about 200 years.
651
00:28:48,533 --> 00:28:50,767
William Shatner:
American Stonehenge
could be proof
652
00:28:50,900 --> 00:28:53,734
that ancient Europeans
travelled to North America
653
00:28:53,867 --> 00:28:56,600
thousands of years
before Columbus.
654
00:28:56,734 --> 00:28:59,400
Or it could be a rare example
655
00:28:59,533 --> 00:29:01,867
of Native American
stone-building.
656
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:05,333
Or it's just a really weird
apple cider factory
657
00:29:05,467 --> 00:29:07,367
built by colonial farmers.
658
00:29:09,100 --> 00:29:11,133
Only one thing
is for certain --
659
00:29:11,266 --> 00:29:14,633
the origins and purpose
of American Stonehenge
660
00:29:14,767 --> 00:29:16,333
remains a mystery.
661
00:29:16,467 --> 00:29:19,066
Is that weird, or what?
662
00:29:40,934 --> 00:29:43,800
Most people
don't believe this,
663
00:29:43,934 --> 00:29:45,867
but I have
a real green thumb.
664
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:47,400
The secret to my success?
665
00:29:47,533 --> 00:29:48,867
I talk to my plants.
666
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:50,400
I stroke them,
667
00:29:50,533 --> 00:29:52,467
and I give them
a little tender loving care.
668
00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:53,967
Why?
669
00:29:54,100 --> 00:29:55,800
Because I believe plants,
like humans,
670
00:29:55,934 --> 00:29:57,300
are emotional beings.
671
00:29:57,433 --> 00:29:59,133
They have feelings,
just like you and I do.
672
00:29:59,266 --> 00:30:00,633
They love; they fear;
673
00:30:00,767 --> 00:30:02,133
they can be affectionate;
674
00:30:02,266 --> 00:30:04,400
and they can communicate.
675
00:30:04,533 --> 00:30:09,133
You don't believe green matter
has grey matter?
676
00:30:09,266 --> 00:30:10,633
No?
677
00:30:10,767 --> 00:30:13,734
Well, watch this.
678
00:30:19,633 --> 00:30:21,133
Of all the many
different organisms
679
00:30:21,266 --> 00:30:22,800
that are on the planet earth,
680
00:30:22,934 --> 00:30:24,967
common sense dictates
681
00:30:25,100 --> 00:30:26,967
that mammals
are the most advanced --
682
00:30:27,100 --> 00:30:29,233
capable of thought,
reasoning and emotions.
683
00:30:32,633 --> 00:30:35,800
But shocking new evidence
suggests that plants
684
00:30:35,934 --> 00:30:37,867
may possess
these abilities as well!
685
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:40,333
And, even more mysterious,
686
00:30:40,467 --> 00:30:44,600
they may have
the power of ESP!
687
00:30:44,734 --> 00:30:46,166
Is this science fiction?
688
00:30:46,300 --> 00:30:48,166
(Screaming)
689
00:30:48,300 --> 00:30:49,834
Or science fact?
690
00:30:49,967 --> 00:30:52,633
Researchers attempt to establish
691
00:30:52,767 --> 00:30:54,800
interspecies communication.
692
00:30:54,934 --> 00:30:57,000
Is that weird, or what?
693
00:30:58,767 --> 00:31:00,533
Our story begins in Italy,
694
00:31:00,667 --> 00:31:03,767
where Carlo Cignozzi
runs a 24-acre vineyard
695
00:31:03,900 --> 00:31:06,900
in the Tuscan hills.
696
00:31:07,033 --> 00:31:09,200
A music lover,
Carlo was well known
697
00:31:09,333 --> 00:31:12,000
to serenade his grape-pickers
with an accordion.
698
00:31:12,133 --> 00:31:22,066
♪
699
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:23,567
William Shatner:
But in 2002,
700
00:31:23,700 --> 00:31:26,567
Carlo would stumble upon
701
00:31:26,700 --> 00:31:30,500
the true amazing power
music could have, when,
702
00:31:30,633 --> 00:31:32,700
as an ecologically friendly way
of controlling pests
703
00:31:32,834 --> 00:31:34,767
from ruining his crop,
704
00:31:34,900 --> 00:31:38,433
Cignozzi placed loud speakers
all around his vineyard
705
00:31:38,567 --> 00:31:40,734
to play 24-hour-a-day
706
00:31:40,867 --> 00:31:43,600
classical music.
707
00:31:43,734 --> 00:31:45,367
The pests were
frightened away,
708
00:31:45,500 --> 00:31:47,400
but that's not all.
709
00:31:47,533 --> 00:31:50,667
Something else happened,
something bizarre.
710
00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:53,000
The grape vines
nearest the speakers
711
00:31:53,133 --> 00:31:55,500
grew 50% larger
712
00:31:55,633 --> 00:31:57,000
than the rest of the crop,
713
00:31:57,133 --> 00:31:59,433
matured more quickly
and even grew
714
00:31:59,567 --> 00:32:02,133
towards
the source of the music.
715
00:32:02,266 --> 00:32:04,266
Giancarlo Cignozzi:
It's fantastic to see.
716
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:07,000
It's impossible to believe.
717
00:32:07,133 --> 00:32:10,433
The branches are
four times more, for example.
718
00:32:10,567 --> 00:32:12,066
The leaves are two times more.
719
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:13,967
So, the sound is like...
720
00:32:14,100 --> 00:32:15,667
like light.
721
00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:17,800
William Shatner:
So, why is this happening?
722
00:32:17,934 --> 00:32:20,300
Is there a logical explanation,
723
00:32:20,433 --> 00:32:22,900
or is the reason far stranger?
724
00:32:31,433 --> 00:32:33,967
♪
725
00:32:34,100 --> 00:32:35,867
William Shatner:
A bizarre occurrence
726
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,300
in an Italian vineyard
seems to suggest
727
00:32:38,433 --> 00:32:40,500
the incredible.
728
00:32:40,633 --> 00:32:42,800
Grape vines
exposed to music
729
00:32:42,934 --> 00:32:44,467
grow fatter and faster
730
00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:46,500
than the rest of the crop
731
00:32:46,633 --> 00:32:50,567
even growing
toward the music's source.
732
00:32:50,700 --> 00:32:53,133
Could the soaring sounds
733
00:32:53,266 --> 00:32:55,633
of Bach and Mozart's
delicate ditties
734
00:32:55,767 --> 00:32:59,467
revolutionize the way
we treat our greenery?
735
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:02,033
Researchers have discovered
that popular tracks,
736
00:33:02,166 --> 00:33:04,700
such as Simon & Garfunkel's
Bridge Over Troubled Water
737
00:33:04,834 --> 00:33:07,533
and Beethoven's
Pastoral Symphony
738
00:33:07,667 --> 00:33:11,533
improved milk yield
in dairy cows
739
00:33:11,667 --> 00:33:13,367
by as much as
one litre per day.
740
00:33:13,500 --> 00:33:15,200
Why?
741
00:33:15,333 --> 00:33:18,200
Because calming music
742
00:33:18,333 --> 00:33:21,033
was found to
reduce stress in the animals.
743
00:33:21,166 --> 00:33:24,867
Happy moos equals more milk.
744
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:27,533
Could something similar
be happening with plants?
745
00:33:27,667 --> 00:33:31,500
Could relaxed grapes
with impeccable musical taste
746
00:33:31,633 --> 00:33:33,567
ripen quicker?
747
00:33:36,767 --> 00:33:38,734
Could plants have
an intelligence
748
00:33:38,867 --> 00:33:40,900
science has yet to fathom?
749
00:33:41,033 --> 00:33:44,066
Botanist Dr. Jaideep Mathur
750
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:46,367
says that the grape vines'
response to music
751
00:33:46,500 --> 00:33:49,200
can be simply explained.
752
00:33:49,333 --> 00:33:52,066
Jaideep Mathur: Basically,
we are talking about vibrations.
753
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:54,266
Plants are able to,
754
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:56,633
uh, exhibit
primary perception.
755
00:33:56,767 --> 00:34:01,033
They can pick up happenings
from their surroundings,
756
00:34:01,166 --> 00:34:03,600
and that can be read out
757
00:34:03,734 --> 00:34:05,467
as electrical impulses.
758
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:08,367
As far as
classical music is concerned,
759
00:34:08,500 --> 00:34:11,533
perhaps there are certain tones,
760
00:34:11,667 --> 00:34:13,667
certain timbre,
761
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:15,800
certain levels of vibration
that plants are
762
00:34:15,934 --> 00:34:18,700
more responsive to
in that particular music.
763
00:34:20,266 --> 00:34:23,033
William Shatner:
Sound waves are
vibrations in the air
764
00:34:23,166 --> 00:34:26,000
made up
of different frequencies.
765
00:34:26,133 --> 00:34:27,800
The vibrations caused
by the sound of music
766
00:34:27,934 --> 00:34:31,233
can be felt by the plants
in their leaves or in the soil.
767
00:34:32,767 --> 00:34:34,867
Research suggests
768
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:36,633
that plants
may respond to music
769
00:34:36,767 --> 00:34:38,934
by increasing
the expression of the genes,
770
00:34:39,066 --> 00:34:40,567
stimulating growth.
771
00:34:42,266 --> 00:34:45,133
So, do plants
just feel music,
772
00:34:45,266 --> 00:34:46,800
rather than hearing it?
773
00:34:46,934 --> 00:34:49,633
Is the perceived
wrath of grapes,
774
00:34:49,767 --> 00:34:51,133
or joy,
775
00:34:51,266 --> 00:34:53,967
just a boring
biological response
776
00:34:54,100 --> 00:34:56,567
based on sound vibrations?
777
00:34:56,700 --> 00:34:57,433
Maybe.
778
00:34:59,300 --> 00:35:01,166
But Susan Dudley,
779
00:35:01,300 --> 00:35:03,433
a plant evolutionary ecologist,
780
00:35:03,567 --> 00:35:05,166
has another theory
781
00:35:05,300 --> 00:35:07,734
for why Carlo's grape vines
grow so dramatically,
782
00:35:07,867 --> 00:35:09,266
and it may have
something to do
783
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:11,266
with how the plants
in the vineyards
784
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:13,433
are related to each other.
785
00:35:14,967 --> 00:35:16,667
Every plant
has a mother and a father.
786
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:19,200
The vineyard in Tuscany
could be doing better
787
00:35:19,333 --> 00:35:21,533
'cause they're planted
next to their siblings.
788
00:35:21,667 --> 00:35:24,033
For some plants,
we know the plants do do better
789
00:35:24,166 --> 00:35:26,200
when they're planted
next to their siblings,
790
00:35:26,333 --> 00:35:27,700
and what my research does
791
00:35:27,834 --> 00:35:29,633
is show a possible
mechanism for that,
792
00:35:29,767 --> 00:35:32,467
that they're not producing
these competitive behaviours
793
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:34,133
when they're
with their siblings.
794
00:35:34,266 --> 00:35:36,200
So, that's a plausible theory.
795
00:35:36,333 --> 00:35:38,967
William Shatner:
To create a consistent grape,
796
00:35:39,100 --> 00:35:40,500
most vineyards use cuttings
797
00:35:40,633 --> 00:35:42,000
from healthy plants
798
00:35:42,133 --> 00:35:44,066
and then graft them
onto rootstock.
799
00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:46,834
This means that, often,
most of the vines
800
00:35:46,967 --> 00:35:50,900
in a given field
are genetically related clones.
801
00:35:53,100 --> 00:35:54,467
I went looking to see
802
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:56,667
whether plants could recognize
who their relatives were
803
00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:58,567
and behave differently
with those relatives.
804
00:35:58,700 --> 00:36:01,333
What we found is that plants
805
00:36:01,467 --> 00:36:04,066
respond differently to liquid
806
00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:05,700
in which
other seedlings had been in.
807
00:36:05,834 --> 00:36:07,834
So, you put a seedling
in the liquid; you take it out.
808
00:36:07,967 --> 00:36:09,834
You put your
test seedling in,
809
00:36:09,967 --> 00:36:11,333
and you measure it,
810
00:36:11,467 --> 00:36:14,367
and it will grow more roots
if that first seedling
811
00:36:14,500 --> 00:36:16,166
was a stranger,
812
00:36:16,300 --> 00:36:18,367
but it won't grow more roots
if that first seedling
813
00:36:18,500 --> 00:36:19,867
was a sibling.
814
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:21,367
And we had a control,
815
00:36:21,500 --> 00:36:23,700
where we just lifted them out
and put them back in again.
816
00:36:23,834 --> 00:36:26,033
So, we definitely see
that there's something,
817
00:36:26,166 --> 00:36:27,533
something soluble,
818
00:36:27,667 --> 00:36:29,033
some kind of chemical, maybe,
819
00:36:29,166 --> 00:36:30,867
that the roots probably
put into the liquid,
820
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:33,133
that they're responding to,
but we don't know what it is.
821
00:36:33,266 --> 00:36:35,266
William Shatner:
Plants compete
for limited resources
822
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:38,166
like sunlight,
nutrients and water --
823
00:36:38,300 --> 00:36:41,500
meaning there are winners
and losers in this equation.
824
00:36:41,633 --> 00:36:44,300
Dudley's research has shown
that when certain plants
825
00:36:44,433 --> 00:36:45,834
grow beside their kin,
826
00:36:45,967 --> 00:36:50,166
they work together
for mutual survival
827
00:36:50,300 --> 00:36:52,266
and are more likely
to ALL do well.
828
00:36:53,867 --> 00:36:55,433
With a winery, usually,
829
00:36:55,567 --> 00:36:59,200
vintners are planting
all the same kind,
830
00:36:59,333 --> 00:37:01,900
and they're not planting
very different kinds together.
831
00:37:02,033 --> 00:37:05,200
So, rather than better sharing
because they're different,
832
00:37:05,333 --> 00:37:06,700
they might be sharing better
833
00:37:06,834 --> 00:37:09,300
because they're less competitive
with each other.
834
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:12,367
Okay, okay.
835
00:37:12,500 --> 00:37:15,700
Maybe I am barking up
the wrong tree.
836
00:37:15,834 --> 00:37:17,200
Sorry.
837
00:37:17,333 --> 00:37:18,800
Seriously.
838
00:37:18,934 --> 00:37:21,200
What if
the grapes of Tuscany,
839
00:37:21,333 --> 00:37:23,200
and plants in general,
840
00:37:23,333 --> 00:37:26,700
don't ripen or respond
or grow tall and healthy
841
00:37:26,834 --> 00:37:28,734
because they love music?
842
00:37:28,867 --> 00:37:30,400
What if it's because
843
00:37:30,533 --> 00:37:33,767
they love each other?
844
00:37:35,300 --> 00:37:39,133
But can this sibling explanation
sufficiently solve the mystery
845
00:37:39,266 --> 00:37:40,700
in the Italian vineyard?
846
00:37:40,834 --> 00:37:43,700
Family ties
may make the vines grow better,
847
00:37:43,834 --> 00:37:47,300
but why would only some vines
848
00:37:47,433 --> 00:37:49,400
grow toward the speakers?
849
00:37:51,100 --> 00:37:53,467
Could the answer
be far stranger than anything
850
00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:55,567
even science fiction writers
might imagine?
851
00:37:59,500 --> 00:38:01,467
(Screaming)
852
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:05,367
Could,
as many researchers believe,
853
00:38:05,500 --> 00:38:08,934
vines and other plants
be sentient beings
854
00:38:09,066 --> 00:38:11,633
capable of displaying
conscious choice?
855
00:38:15,133 --> 00:38:18,367
I believe plants can sense.
856
00:38:18,500 --> 00:38:20,867
Now, whether they can sense,
857
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:22,867
precisely,
our thoughts
858
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:25,400
or the thoughts
of other animals around them
859
00:38:25,533 --> 00:38:28,033
really remains
to be proven.
860
00:38:28,166 --> 00:38:30,633
So, I wouldn't go so far
as saying that, yeah,
861
00:38:30,767 --> 00:38:32,967
they have the ESP
and everything.
862
00:38:33,100 --> 00:38:35,467
However,
what I definitely can say
863
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:39,467
is they would be
influenced very easily
864
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:42,967
by changes
in their environment,
865
00:38:43,100 --> 00:38:45,967
and that maybe reflects,
866
00:38:46,100 --> 00:38:48,967
to a certain extent,
the thought process.
867
00:38:49,100 --> 00:38:50,467
We do not know.
868
00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:52,467
William Shatner:
Jaideep and his assistant, Zach,
869
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:54,900
are going to put the sentient
being theory to the test.
870
00:38:55,033 --> 00:38:56,400
They're going to
hook up this plant
871
00:38:56,533 --> 00:38:58,100
to a state-of-the-art polygraph.
872
00:38:58,233 --> 00:39:01,266
Sensors will read
the subtle changes
873
00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:03,300
in the plant's
electrical activity
874
00:39:03,433 --> 00:39:05,767
to see how it responds
to various stimuli.
875
00:39:05,900 --> 00:39:07,934
If there's a noticeable spike
876
00:39:08,066 --> 00:39:09,533
in the plant's
electrical activity,
877
00:39:09,667 --> 00:39:11,467
then that would suggest
that the plant
878
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:14,433
can read human thoughts.
879
00:39:14,567 --> 00:39:16,333
Jaideep Mathur:
I'm absolutely curious
880
00:39:16,467 --> 00:39:19,333
about what is the outcome
from this particular experiment
881
00:39:19,467 --> 00:39:24,333
because it might actually
be an opening for the way
882
00:39:24,467 --> 00:39:26,033
my own research direction
883
00:39:26,166 --> 00:39:27,734
will move into,
884
00:39:27,867 --> 00:39:30,867
because if there's a positive,
a positive response,
885
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:32,867
I would really love
to follow that up
886
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:34,633
in a more scientific manner.
887
00:39:37,433 --> 00:39:39,000
William Shatner:
For their first experiment,
888
00:39:39,133 --> 00:39:40,767
they're going to test
what many gardeners
889
00:39:40,900 --> 00:39:42,266
believe to be a fact --
890
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:45,133
that plants respond well
to human touch.
891
00:39:48,166 --> 00:39:49,967
Lightly brushing the leaves
892
00:39:50,100 --> 00:39:52,166
and the stems of the plant.
893
00:39:52,300 --> 00:39:54,900
Mathur:
No, sorry, Zach.
894
00:39:55,033 --> 00:39:56,700
William Shatner:
But there's no response.
895
00:39:56,834 --> 00:39:59,200
Now they're going to attempt
what few scientists
896
00:39:59,333 --> 00:40:02,033
have ever tried before.
897
00:40:02,166 --> 00:40:03,533
Threatening thoughts.
898
00:40:03,667 --> 00:40:06,467
William Shatner:
They're going to see
if plants have ESP.
899
00:40:10,967 --> 00:40:12,800
Mathur:
No response so far.
900
00:40:17,166 --> 00:40:18,533
That's all I got.
901
00:40:18,667 --> 00:40:20,533
Yeah.
902
00:40:20,667 --> 00:40:22,266
We haven't gotten
any responses yet, eh?
903
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:24,734
William Shatner:
Since there is no response,
904
00:40:24,867 --> 00:40:26,300
Jaideep and Zach
are going to
905
00:40:26,433 --> 00:40:29,300
raise the intensity
of their next experiment.
906
00:40:29,433 --> 00:40:32,133
They're going to threaten
the plant with violence.
907
00:40:32,266 --> 00:40:33,767
Mathur:
Cut plant.
908
00:40:40,166 --> 00:40:41,633
Hold on.
909
00:40:43,166 --> 00:40:45,934
So, as soon as
910
00:40:46,066 --> 00:40:48,633
you were on the way to cut it,
911
00:40:48,767 --> 00:40:50,133
there is a huge spike.
912
00:40:50,266 --> 00:40:52,133
That's really interesting
913
00:40:52,266 --> 00:40:54,133
because it was
at a lower level,
914
00:40:54,266 --> 00:40:56,133
spiked up,
915
00:40:56,266 --> 00:40:58,133
came down,
916
00:40:58,266 --> 00:40:59,633
went up again,
917
00:40:59,767 --> 00:41:02,700
and then has now started
resting at another level.
918
00:41:02,834 --> 00:41:06,200
So, the spike actually comes
prior to your action.
919
00:41:06,333 --> 00:41:09,100
William Shatner: Amazingly,
before he could cut the plant,
920
00:41:09,233 --> 00:41:11,200
there is a noticeable spike
on the lie detector,
921
00:41:11,333 --> 00:41:14,066
indicating a physiological
response by the plant.
922
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:16,033
That would suggest
that the plant
923
00:41:16,166 --> 00:41:18,000
could read Zach's mind.
924
00:41:19,567 --> 00:41:22,433
This was almost
the perfect moment
925
00:41:22,567 --> 00:41:25,433
for a plant
to have become anxious,
926
00:41:25,567 --> 00:41:27,867
when you reached it
with the scissors
927
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:31,800
with a very clear intention,
at least in your mind, unspoken.
928
00:41:31,934 --> 00:41:34,633
So, again, maybe,
929
00:41:34,767 --> 00:41:37,100
maybe we are
looking at something real.
930
00:41:37,233 --> 00:41:39,100
Scientifically speaking,
931
00:41:39,233 --> 00:41:41,300
this hardly
would count as a result
932
00:41:41,433 --> 00:41:44,133
unless we could
repeat it multiple times,
933
00:41:44,266 --> 00:41:45,633
but the fact is--
934
00:41:45,767 --> 00:41:47,133
and it's a very--
935
00:41:47,266 --> 00:41:49,800
it comes as
a major surprise to me
936
00:41:49,934 --> 00:41:52,834
because I was not
expecting this at all.
937
00:41:52,967 --> 00:41:55,133
And we had already
gone through one plant
938
00:41:55,266 --> 00:41:56,767
and looked at the other one
939
00:41:56,900 --> 00:41:58,967
and gone through
different situations
940
00:41:59,100 --> 00:42:01,200
where we realized
this is not happening.
941
00:42:01,333 --> 00:42:02,867
And then, suddenly,
942
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:05,367
when Zach moves in
with the scissors and,
943
00:42:05,500 --> 00:42:07,367
I guess,
with a very clear intention
944
00:42:07,500 --> 00:42:10,367
of carrying the threat out,
945
00:42:10,500 --> 00:42:13,567
there is a very,
very clear spike.
946
00:42:13,700 --> 00:42:16,700
William Shatner:
So, if human beings
are ever going to prove
947
00:42:16,834 --> 00:42:19,567
plants are sentient
or have ESP,
948
00:42:19,700 --> 00:42:22,300
more research
needs to be done.
949
00:42:22,433 --> 00:42:24,300
If it's ever proven true,
950
00:42:24,433 --> 00:42:25,867
the implications
would be enormous.
951
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:27,467
It would shake
the very foundations
952
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:29,200
of our human existence
953
00:42:29,333 --> 00:42:32,166
and necessitate
a dramatic change
954
00:42:32,300 --> 00:42:35,400
in the way we relate
with this mysterious species.
955
00:42:35,533 --> 00:42:37,500
Is that weird, or what?
956
00:42:40,633 --> 00:42:43,066
So, three weird mysteries --
957
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:47,367
a multitude of even weirder
possible explanations.
958
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:51,500
A woman materializes
from nowhere
959
00:42:51,633 --> 00:42:53,433
into an L.A. bathroom.
960
00:42:53,567 --> 00:42:57,033
Did she use a wormhole
to travel through time?
961
00:42:58,567 --> 00:43:01,367
Did she travel faster
than light speed?
962
00:43:01,500 --> 00:43:03,300
Is any of this possible?
963
00:43:04,867 --> 00:43:08,567
A mysterious stone structure
in New England --
964
00:43:08,700 --> 00:43:11,667
proof that the ancient Celts
settled the United States?
965
00:43:14,033 --> 00:43:16,567
Was this built
by Native Americans?
966
00:43:16,700 --> 00:43:18,400
Or was it created
967
00:43:18,533 --> 00:43:22,033
in more recent times
as a booze-making factory?
968
00:43:22,166 --> 00:43:25,800
Vines in Italy seemingly
respond to the sounds of Mozart.
969
00:43:27,333 --> 00:43:30,300
Are plants sentient beings
with human feelings and desires?
970
00:43:32,166 --> 00:43:34,033
You decide.
971
00:43:34,166 --> 00:43:36,967
Join me next time
for more stories
972
00:43:37,100 --> 00:43:39,066
that will undoubtedly be...
973
00:43:40,934 --> 00:43:43,400
weird, or what?
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