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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,844 --> 00:00:05,004 This programme contains adult humour. 2 00:00:05,004 --> 00:00:07,244 60 seconds to titles. Oh, Howard. A quick word. Yeah. 3 00:00:07,244 --> 00:00:09,364 Last night I was at a fundraiser for Help for Heroes, 4 00:00:09,364 --> 00:00:11,364 as the plus one of Grant Shapps. 5 00:00:11,364 --> 00:00:14,604 Shapps had had a row with his wife. They'd agreed to go vegetarian for a 6 00:00:14,604 --> 00:00:18,204 month, and she found a receipt from Byron Burgers. OK. 7 00:00:18,204 --> 00:00:20,324 I'll skip to the point. At the event, 8 00:00:20,324 --> 00:00:21,964 I met the private secretary 9 00:00:21,964 --> 00:00:24,404 for Her Royal Highness, the Princess Royal. 10 00:00:24,404 --> 00:00:27,044 Princess Anne. Precisely, Howard, precisely. 11 00:00:27,044 --> 00:00:30,324 And I was left with the distinct impression that...that... 12 00:00:30,324 --> 00:00:33,124 Clearance on two. ..were we to make overtures to Gatcombe House, 13 00:00:33,124 --> 00:00:35,284 inviting Her Royal Highness on to the show, 14 00:00:35,284 --> 00:00:37,844 those overtures may very well be looked upon favourably. 15 00:00:37,844 --> 00:00:39,444 Do you want to leave it with me? 16 00:00:39,444 --> 00:00:42,084 Absolutely, Howard. Just to say, there was... Thank you, Paul. 17 00:00:42,084 --> 00:00:44,124 ..an initial hesitancy... Quiet, please. 18 00:00:44,124 --> 00:00:45,804 ..about coming back to the Beeb, 19 00:00:45,804 --> 00:00:48,604 after Emily Maitlis made Prince Andrew get a bit muddled up, 20 00:00:48,604 --> 00:00:51,924 but I was able to make assurances that, at my hands, 21 00:00:51,924 --> 00:00:55,844 the Princess Royal would receive the softest possible soaping. 22 00:00:55,844 --> 00:00:58,564 OK, leave it with me. Can you clear the floor? First positions. 23 00:00:58,564 --> 00:01:01,604 OK, also, I would say, from your point of view, you will become 24 00:01:01,604 --> 00:01:04,484 known as the producer who pulled off the royal coup rather than 25 00:01:04,484 --> 00:01:07,444 the producer of the TV show where the lighting man fell to his death. 26 00:01:07,444 --> 00:01:08,684 I'll leave it with you. 27 00:01:17,804 --> 00:01:20,364 CALYPSO MUSIC PLAYS 28 00:01:27,564 --> 00:01:29,804 Come on, get up. 29 00:01:39,324 --> 00:01:42,724 APPLAUSE Ah, fantastic. 30 00:01:42,724 --> 00:01:44,444 How about that? How about that? 31 00:01:44,444 --> 00:01:47,084 How about that? How's about that? 32 00:01:47,084 --> 00:01:51,764 Welcome to This Time, with Alan Partridge and me, Jennie Gresham. 33 00:01:51,764 --> 00:01:55,564 And hello, bonjour, hola, and marhaba, because it's 34 00:01:55,564 --> 00:01:57,044 an international show tonight, 35 00:01:57,044 --> 00:02:00,324 taking in London, Norfolk, Egypt... And the Caribbean, 36 00:02:00,324 --> 00:02:04,004 thanks to the wonderful drummers of Camden Steel International. 37 00:02:04,004 --> 00:02:08,044 Uh, well, the calypso term actually is "panmen" rather than drummers. 38 00:02:08,044 --> 00:02:10,844 Oh, I didn't realise you were a calypso music fan, Alan. 39 00:02:10,844 --> 00:02:14,884 Uh, well, I wasn't until I bumped into the band. 40 00:02:14,884 --> 00:02:17,964 I was staying overnight in Camden for fun, 41 00:02:17,964 --> 00:02:20,804 and these guys were playing outside the hotel and I initially 42 00:02:20,804 --> 00:02:24,044 asked them to keep the noise down. They refused, I threatened to 43 00:02:24,044 --> 00:02:26,364 call the council, they said, "Go on, then," 44 00:02:26,364 --> 00:02:29,124 so I began filming them on my phone, and it was only when I 45 00:02:29,124 --> 00:02:31,964 watched the footage back, that what had initially seemed like 46 00:02:31,964 --> 00:02:35,724 an unwelcome clang-clang-pang had become 47 00:02:35,724 --> 00:02:38,604 a rather warm-hearted, diddily-pom-pang. 48 00:02:38,604 --> 00:02:41,124 And the next day I approached the... 49 00:02:41,124 --> 00:02:44,964 ..the panman with the largest haircut... Sorry, what's your name? 50 00:02:44,964 --> 00:02:47,884 Brent. Brent. That's right, yes, Brent. ..and I said, 51 00:02:47,884 --> 00:02:52,364 "Brent, how would you like to come on TV and play the tune Sun Splash, 52 00:02:52,364 --> 00:02:54,924 "also known as the theme from This Time?" 53 00:02:54,924 --> 00:02:58,604 Yeah, and what is interesting is that many steel pans are home-made, 54 00:02:58,604 --> 00:03:01,804 aren't they? They're actually fashioned from discarded oil drums. 55 00:03:01,804 --> 00:03:03,644 Is that right? That's correct, yeah. 56 00:03:03,644 --> 00:03:06,084 But the drums had been discarded when you acquired them? 57 00:03:06,084 --> 00:03:08,524 That's correct, yeah. Well, fine, yeah. 58 00:03:08,524 --> 00:03:11,164 Uh, so, Simon, are you a fan of calypso music? 59 00:03:11,164 --> 00:03:15,404 No, no, but I did used to play the triangle in a reggae band. 60 00:03:15,404 --> 00:03:18,244 I used to, uh... You stand at the back and ting? That's it. 61 00:03:18,244 --> 00:03:21,164 You got it. Great, and then I'm sure there'll be more good jokes from 62 00:03:21,164 --> 00:03:23,164 Simon later on tonight's show. 63 00:03:23,164 --> 00:03:25,404 All week, we've been asking you to vote 64 00:03:25,404 --> 00:03:27,964 for Britain's greatest war heroes. 65 00:03:27,964 --> 00:03:31,164 The shortlist is Nelson, Wellington, Montgomery 66 00:03:31,164 --> 00:03:32,724 and "Bomber" Harris, 67 00:03:32,724 --> 00:03:34,764 who literally wiped Dresden off the map. 68 00:03:34,764 --> 00:03:37,764 But what about the unsung civilian heroes 69 00:03:37,764 --> 00:03:42,444 who, in their own quietly courageous way, did their bit for Blighty? 70 00:03:42,444 --> 00:03:44,724 Well, to help us, I'm going to wander over 71 00:03:44,724 --> 00:03:46,724 to the digi-wall parade ground 72 00:03:46,724 --> 00:03:49,764 to see if my own soldier will pass muster. 73 00:03:49,764 --> 00:03:53,604 Private Denton. Reporting for duty, sir! 74 00:03:53,604 --> 00:03:55,764 I think I just did a Nazi salute, I'm so sorry. 75 00:03:55,764 --> 00:03:58,724 It was only a small one. At least it wasn't the, uh... Don't, don't... 76 00:03:58,724 --> 00:04:01,124 Of course, you wouldn't be reporting for duty anywhere 77 00:04:01,124 --> 00:04:03,964 because of your genetic condition which means you have brittle bones. 78 00:04:03,964 --> 00:04:05,444 How do you know about that? 79 00:04:05,444 --> 00:04:07,764 Well, when we had our checkup, the doctor handed me 80 00:04:07,764 --> 00:04:10,084 the medical records and said, "Have you seen this?" 81 00:04:10,084 --> 00:04:12,884 Anyway, tell us what happened... Hang on, it doesn't affect me now. 82 00:04:12,884 --> 00:04:15,364 It just means... Sticks in your 60s. Yeah. 83 00:04:15,364 --> 00:04:19,204 Yeah. Yeah. So, all day we have been asking for stories of civilian 84 00:04:19,204 --> 00:04:22,324 heroism by people who perhaps haven't been honoured by the Queen. 85 00:04:22,324 --> 00:04:24,604 BELL DINGS Whoops. What was that? 86 00:04:24,604 --> 00:04:26,924 Don't know, it must be interference. A bit of radio ga ga. 87 00:04:26,924 --> 00:04:28,564 BELL DINGS Ga ga? 88 00:04:28,564 --> 00:04:31,204 Sorry, I mean feedback. I'm going slightly mad. 89 00:04:31,204 --> 00:04:33,564 BELL DINGS Still, the show must go on. 90 00:04:33,564 --> 00:04:35,884 BELL DINGS Samantha says her mum Florence 91 00:04:35,884 --> 00:04:37,884 was only seven at the start of the war, 92 00:04:37,884 --> 00:04:40,044 but would sing music hall songs outside 93 00:04:40,044 --> 00:04:43,204 the Royal Ordnance Munitions Factory to lift the spirits of the workers. 94 00:04:43,204 --> 00:04:46,044 Ah. What a wonderful public spirit. It's a kind of magic. 95 00:04:46,044 --> 00:04:48,044 BELL DINGS It is, Simon, and do you know, 96 00:04:48,044 --> 00:04:49,684 they wouldn't let you do that now? 97 00:04:49,684 --> 00:04:52,724 There's probably some EU regulation that says kids can't sing or dance 98 00:04:52,724 --> 00:04:55,804 near explosives. It's just red tape. It is, and it's a pity because 99 00:04:55,804 --> 00:04:58,644 that's the spirit that won us the war. Well, we are the champions. 100 00:04:58,644 --> 00:05:01,284 BELL DINGS Any more? Hell, yeah, don't stop me now. 101 00:05:01,284 --> 00:05:04,804 Hang on, you're just doing Queen songs. Yes, I am. I've been rumbled. 102 00:05:04,804 --> 00:05:06,484 It's just a Twitter thing. 103 00:05:06,484 --> 00:05:09,204 A Liverpool businessman said he'd donate a kidney machine to 104 00:05:09,204 --> 00:05:13,044 Alder Hey Children's Hospital if I could sneak in a dozen Queen songs. 105 00:05:13,044 --> 00:05:16,964 Mm, that might sound like a bit of fun, but doing a charity appeal 106 00:05:16,964 --> 00:05:19,284 on a war section would be an editorial decision. 107 00:05:19,284 --> 00:05:22,004 Just trying to help sick kids. OK, because you identify with them. 108 00:05:22,004 --> 00:05:25,644 Because of my biscuit bones. ALAN LAUGHS 109 00:05:25,644 --> 00:05:27,644 That is a good attitude, actually. 110 00:05:27,644 --> 00:05:30,084 All right, let's do it. How many have you got left? 111 00:05:30,084 --> 00:05:32,764 Uh, we've named ten, so we've got to get two more. Two more, two more. 112 00:05:32,764 --> 00:05:35,124 Yeah. Uh, well, there's a text about the Land Girls. 113 00:05:35,124 --> 00:05:37,164 Fat Bottomed Girls. BELL DINGS 114 00:05:37,164 --> 00:05:40,284 I was trying to avoid that one. It's not crude. Women have a higher 115 00:05:40,284 --> 00:05:43,124 oestrogen level, which deposits fat around the buttocks and thighs. 116 00:05:43,124 --> 00:05:45,964 In fact, I met Brian May at Jodrell Bank several years ago 117 00:05:45,964 --> 00:05:48,284 and I said, "I have to take my hat off to you, Mr May. 118 00:05:48,284 --> 00:05:51,244 "Women are meant to have fatter bottoms. It's an evolutionary trait" 119 00:05:51,244 --> 00:05:54,124 "designed to attract a male, which helps propagate the human race." 120 00:05:54,124 --> 00:05:57,964 So in a very real sense, fat-bottomed girls... Make the rocking world go round. Precisely. 121 00:05:57,964 --> 00:06:01,644 Yeah, there we go. What did he say? Well, we've been friends ever since. Just need one more. 122 00:06:01,644 --> 00:06:04,084 Surely he'll give you the kidney machine for 11 songs. 123 00:06:04,084 --> 00:06:06,484 He won't, he really won't. He says 12 songs or he won't budge. 124 00:06:06,484 --> 00:06:09,524 OK, well, we'll get there. 125 00:06:09,524 --> 00:06:11,324 Such a strange game to play. 126 00:06:12,604 --> 00:06:16,324 Now, from Jacobeans snorting tinctures of opium 127 00:06:16,324 --> 00:06:20,404 to rent lads called Cecil smoking spice in the doorway, Britain has 128 00:06:20,404 --> 00:06:25,164 a longstanding drug problem, but it needs to sort itself out! 129 00:06:26,644 --> 00:06:28,204 But how? 130 00:06:28,204 --> 00:06:29,804 And we're off. 131 00:06:30,764 --> 00:06:33,284 JENNIE EXHALES, ALAN SIGHS 132 00:06:34,684 --> 00:06:39,844 Oh, by the way, I was talking with Grant Shapps, and some very... 133 00:06:39,844 --> 00:06:42,644 I don't know what her problem is, and she was meant to get up 134 00:06:42,644 --> 00:06:46,284 and dance with me, with the steel band. I felt like a right Charlie. 135 00:06:46,284 --> 00:06:49,164 You look quite chuffed. Have you finished another wordsearch book? 136 00:06:49,164 --> 00:06:51,164 Better than that. Not the big jigsaw? 137 00:06:51,164 --> 00:06:53,644 What's been keeping you awake at night? 138 00:06:53,644 --> 00:06:56,844 Well, the owl... And? 139 00:06:56,844 --> 00:07:00,284 Well, being unseated by TV's golden couple, Jennie and Sam. 140 00:07:00,284 --> 00:07:03,404 Yes, well, Jennie and Sam have split up. 141 00:07:04,524 --> 00:07:06,804 Get lost! 142 00:07:06,804 --> 00:07:08,844 I overheard her PA in the corridor. 143 00:07:09,964 --> 00:07:13,484 Lynn, I am now in a very, very good mood! 144 00:07:13,484 --> 00:07:15,524 Do you know what? Take Saturday afternoon off. 145 00:07:15,524 --> 00:07:17,204 I will. Thank you. 146 00:07:17,204 --> 00:07:19,404 Actually, I will need you back by four. 147 00:07:19,404 --> 00:07:22,244 Right. Just make sure they don't patch things up. Right. 148 00:07:23,644 --> 00:07:25,684 ALAN SIGHS 149 00:07:29,044 --> 00:07:32,484 How are you? What did he do? What did he do? 150 00:07:32,484 --> 00:07:35,204 Kiss your best friend? Was it the chat lines? 151 00:07:35,204 --> 00:07:36,404 No! 152 00:07:36,404 --> 00:07:38,884 No, it's just all that self-deprecating bollocks. 153 00:07:38,884 --> 00:07:40,484 Oh, yeah. 154 00:07:40,484 --> 00:07:42,964 He goes on about how he doesn't deserve me 155 00:07:42,964 --> 00:07:45,724 and then he says he can't invite me to his Royal Society dinner 156 00:07:45,724 --> 00:07:48,844 because I might be out of my depth. Oh, Jennie. 157 00:07:48,844 --> 00:07:52,644 You must know this, his eyes were too thin. 158 00:07:52,644 --> 00:07:54,324 They were. 159 00:07:54,324 --> 00:07:57,524 I don't think you could have startled the man if you tried. 160 00:07:57,524 --> 00:07:59,884 It's just a lot of faux humility. 161 00:07:59,884 --> 00:08:01,844 Etonians aren't modest, Jennie. 162 00:08:01,844 --> 00:08:05,284 They are taught to emulate modesty to empower themselves, 163 00:08:05,284 --> 00:08:08,324 I wanted to tell you. Oh, well, I know that now. 164 00:08:08,324 --> 00:08:09,964 When did all this happen? 165 00:08:09,964 --> 00:08:12,004 Just before he left for Egypt. 166 00:08:12,004 --> 00:08:14,844 We're doing the live link with him today. Yeah, I know, I know that. 167 00:08:14,844 --> 00:08:17,884 It'll be fine. We've got to talk to each other at some point, 168 00:08:17,884 --> 00:08:22,044 haven't we? Do be careful, Jen. I don't think Sam's a bad person, 169 00:08:22,044 --> 00:08:25,644 but the most important person in Sam Chatwin's life will always be - 170 00:08:25,644 --> 00:08:30,084 say it with me, Jen... Sam Chatwin. ..Samuel Peregrine Tolomy Chatwin, 171 00:08:30,084 --> 00:08:32,644 precisely. And we're back in five, four... 172 00:08:32,644 --> 00:08:34,884 SHE SIGHS 173 00:08:34,884 --> 00:08:38,244 Your views there on how the law should tackle drug use. 174 00:08:38,244 --> 00:08:42,204 And a real mix, actually, from compulsory door-to-door drug tests, 175 00:08:42,204 --> 00:08:44,844 to school visits by Shane MacGowan. 176 00:08:44,844 --> 00:08:47,644 Mm, and I particularly like the idea of tackling drug use in schools 177 00:08:47,644 --> 00:08:50,324 by disguising police officers as undercover dinner ladies. 178 00:08:50,324 --> 00:08:51,804 Yeah, good idea for a film. 179 00:08:51,804 --> 00:08:53,644 Yeah, but I meant as a policy. 180 00:08:53,644 --> 00:08:58,084 Now, when we opened our mail bag to find a letter from Janet Dignan 181 00:08:58,084 --> 00:09:02,564 complaining about our use of split infinitives, we took it to the top. 182 00:09:02,564 --> 00:09:05,644 We invited Janet to truly have it out 183 00:09:05,644 --> 00:09:07,964 with the BBC's director of editorial standards 184 00:09:07,964 --> 00:09:10,524 and promised to never again use a split infinitive. 185 00:09:10,524 --> 00:09:13,084 Jennie went along to hopefully find out 186 00:09:13,084 --> 00:09:15,804 if good grammar still matters and to thereby put Janet's mind 187 00:09:15,804 --> 00:09:18,004 at rest - happy to, in some small way, help. 188 00:09:19,844 --> 00:09:22,284 And we're off. Split infinitives. 189 00:09:22,284 --> 00:09:24,364 Walk your dog! 190 00:09:24,364 --> 00:09:26,764 Someone's been going to the gym. 191 00:09:26,764 --> 00:09:28,124 Oh, thank you for noticing. 192 00:09:28,124 --> 00:09:30,284 I saw your trunks drying on the radiator. 193 00:09:30,284 --> 00:09:32,444 I notice everything, me. 194 00:09:32,444 --> 00:09:35,364 That's the thing about us make-up girls, we see it all. 195 00:09:35,364 --> 00:09:37,924 I could do with an extra pair of eyes. 196 00:09:37,924 --> 00:09:39,964 Lynn's are going milky. 197 00:09:39,964 --> 00:09:42,564 I could be your spy. Miss Moneypenny. 198 00:09:42,564 --> 00:09:46,684 Yes, although she's not a spy, she's...she's M's secretary. 199 00:09:46,684 --> 00:09:50,324 She had a gun in the last film. In the books, she's M's secretary. 200 00:09:50,324 --> 00:09:52,964 Well, I think me and you could make a good team. We would. 201 00:09:52,964 --> 00:09:56,324 We'd make a good TV duo. The best, the best duo since... 202 00:09:56,324 --> 00:09:59,204 Mulder and Scully. Yeah, or Sapphire and Steel. 203 00:09:59,204 --> 00:10:01,724 Powder and comb? Who? 204 00:10:01,724 --> 00:10:04,404 Oh, no, powder and comb! Oh, God! 205 00:10:04,404 --> 00:10:05,764 SHE LAUGHS 206 00:10:05,764 --> 00:10:08,484 Although it does sound like a detective duo, doesn't it? 207 00:10:08,484 --> 00:10:10,884 SHE LAUGHS 208 00:10:13,924 --> 00:10:16,324 That's quite a long laugh. 209 00:10:16,324 --> 00:10:18,444 Yeah, it sounds like something that could be on ITV. 210 00:10:18,444 --> 00:10:21,404 Yeah, it really could, actually. Powder and Comb. 211 00:10:21,404 --> 00:10:26,684 Nigel Havers is DCI Powder, and a feisty Anna Friel as DS Beth Comb. 212 00:10:26,684 --> 00:10:28,524 SHE LAUGHS 213 00:10:28,524 --> 00:10:30,924 He'd be powdering the scene for fingerprints and she'd be 214 00:10:30,924 --> 00:10:33,604 combing the area for clues. There's that long laugh again. 215 00:10:33,604 --> 00:10:36,844 Yeah, but it's funny, isn't it? But it's also a good idea as well. 216 00:10:36,844 --> 00:10:40,084 Actually, I've got... I need to write this down. Can I borrow this 217 00:10:40,084 --> 00:10:44,084 pen? Oh, it's eyeliner. ITV will love this. ITV... 218 00:10:44,084 --> 00:10:47,044 You can keep that. Cheers. Clear the floor. 219 00:10:49,324 --> 00:10:51,004 There you go. Oh, no, that's mine. 220 00:10:51,004 --> 00:10:53,204 Back on in five, four... 221 00:10:55,324 --> 00:10:59,004 Time for a change of mood, as we go from heart-warming 222 00:10:59,004 --> 00:11:00,644 to health warning. 223 00:11:00,644 --> 00:11:03,764 Each week this month, we've been showing a series of films 224 00:11:03,764 --> 00:11:06,484 exploring the dark underbelly of British life. 225 00:11:06,484 --> 00:11:09,324 A new direction for which we make no apology. 226 00:11:09,324 --> 00:11:12,284 In last week's offering, Jennie confronted the owner 227 00:11:12,284 --> 00:11:15,804 of an unlicensed market stall and shouted questions as he ran away. 228 00:11:15,804 --> 00:11:19,484 Next week, the series continues with a powerful report from Alan 229 00:11:19,484 --> 00:11:22,924 on bare-knuckle boxing among the Irish travelling community. 230 00:11:22,924 --> 00:11:24,764 I'm just getting that subtitled. 231 00:11:24,764 --> 00:11:28,444 Right now, though, Alan reports on a very different pastime. 232 00:11:28,444 --> 00:11:31,844 We all have different ways to let our hair down. I like my tennis. 233 00:11:31,844 --> 00:11:35,804 Yes, I like to go to a ceilidh and really throw myself around. 234 00:11:35,804 --> 00:11:37,364 After a few pints of Guinness. 235 00:11:37,364 --> 00:11:39,604 If I feel I've danced well, I will allow myself 236 00:11:39,604 --> 00:11:41,964 a glass of Guinness, yeah, once I've cooled down. 237 00:11:41,964 --> 00:11:45,244 But for some, R&R can take an altogether more dangerous form. 238 00:11:45,244 --> 00:11:47,404 As Alan now reports, 239 00:11:47,404 --> 00:11:52,004 there's a growing trend among the gay community for chemsex - 240 00:11:52,004 --> 00:11:55,324 the use of drugs to prolong and enhance group sexual activity. 241 00:11:55,324 --> 00:11:57,684 The following report contains images that some viewers 242 00:11:57,684 --> 00:11:59,444 will find disturbing. 243 00:11:59,444 --> 00:12:02,004 Basically, if you've got traditional views on intimacy, 244 00:12:02,004 --> 00:12:04,284 you might want to pop the kettle on, yeah. 245 00:12:05,604 --> 00:12:08,244 London's West End. For a young guy new to the scene, 246 00:12:08,244 --> 00:12:10,284 it's a place of dizzying delights. 247 00:12:10,284 --> 00:12:13,524 MUSIC: Yes Sir, I Can Boogie by Baccara 248 00:12:14,924 --> 00:12:17,924 But slow down the footage and add some reverb, 249 00:12:17,924 --> 00:12:20,644 and its sinister side quickly becomes apparent, 250 00:12:20,644 --> 00:12:24,484 for it's here amidst the swanky flats, glitzy nightclubs 251 00:12:24,484 --> 00:12:28,164 and trendy hotels that chemsex has reached epidemic proportions. 252 00:12:28,164 --> 00:12:32,124 Imagine two things you enjoy - great individually, 253 00:12:32,124 --> 00:12:36,284 but put them together and you get something quite special. 254 00:12:37,284 --> 00:12:38,724 Strawberries and cream. 255 00:12:38,724 --> 00:12:40,524 Egg and bacon. 256 00:12:40,524 --> 00:12:42,164 Yawning and scratching. 257 00:12:42,164 --> 00:12:43,964 Johnson & Johnson. 258 00:12:43,964 --> 00:12:46,564 Charles and Camilla. 259 00:12:46,564 --> 00:12:49,884 But what about drugs and sex? 260 00:12:49,884 --> 00:12:52,324 This... 261 00:12:52,324 --> 00:12:53,884 ..is chemsex! 262 00:12:56,084 --> 00:13:00,044 Chemsex is a compound word - chem derived from the word "chemical", 263 00:13:00,044 --> 00:13:02,884 and sex from the word "sex" or "sexiness". 264 00:13:02,884 --> 00:13:05,124 Confined largely to the gay community, 265 00:13:05,124 --> 00:13:07,124 it emerged around the year 2010. 266 00:13:07,124 --> 00:13:08,244 Partridge, you wanker! 267 00:13:08,244 --> 00:13:11,844 A time of unrestrained glee as a nation dared to believe 268 00:13:11,844 --> 00:13:15,684 the nightmare of a Labour government could soon be over. And as revellers 269 00:13:15,684 --> 00:13:19,564 lost their minds to the sound of Keane and the Black-Eyed Beans, 270 00:13:19,564 --> 00:13:24,004 little wonder that the hedonism spilled over into sex and drugs. 271 00:13:24,004 --> 00:13:26,844 The primary drugs involved in chemsex are crystal meth, 272 00:13:26,844 --> 00:13:29,684 GHB, ketamine and mephedrone - 273 00:13:29,684 --> 00:13:32,324 a dose of which, under controlled conditions, 274 00:13:32,324 --> 00:13:34,164 I was about to take myself, 275 00:13:34,164 --> 00:13:37,844 under the watchful eye of pharmacist Dr Raj Prasan. 276 00:13:37,844 --> 00:13:40,444 Now, do you say M-Cat or Meow-Meow? 277 00:13:40,444 --> 00:13:43,084 I say mephedrone, its chemical name. Right. 278 00:13:43,084 --> 00:13:45,764 I like to say Meow-Meow. 279 00:13:45,764 --> 00:13:49,124 You're going to administer this drug under controlled circumstances, 280 00:13:49,124 --> 00:13:51,444 and then I'm going to gauge its effects. 281 00:13:51,444 --> 00:13:53,564 You're going to play guinea pig. Right. 282 00:13:53,564 --> 00:13:55,884 That's, uh... That wasn't explained to me. 283 00:13:55,884 --> 00:13:59,124 Uh... I've never played that. 284 00:13:59,124 --> 00:14:02,804 I mean, in terms of the experiment... Oh, right! 285 00:14:02,804 --> 00:14:06,524 Sorry, I... I... Yeah, I thought it was some sort of gay sex game. 286 00:14:06,524 --> 00:14:10,244 Mind you, I'm not sure a man can squeal like a guinea pig, can he? 287 00:14:10,244 --> 00:14:11,764 I'm just a pharmacist. 288 00:14:11,764 --> 00:14:15,004 Right, yeah, cos you're the chem of the chemsex, yeah. 289 00:14:15,004 --> 00:14:17,364 Sort of Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde. You're the... 290 00:14:17,364 --> 00:14:20,484 You're the Doctor Chem and, uh, Mr Sex we've yet to meet. 291 00:14:20,484 --> 00:14:23,764 I'm just a pharmacist. You said that, you said that. 292 00:14:23,764 --> 00:14:25,964 So, give us the drugs. 293 00:14:32,684 --> 00:14:36,844 Well, it's 30 minutes later and I don't feel especially different. 294 00:14:36,844 --> 00:14:40,804 Certainly, the thought of grinding myself against a stranger 295 00:14:40,804 --> 00:14:43,924 in a Holiday Inn is far from my thoughts. 296 00:14:46,564 --> 00:14:47,644 Yeah. 297 00:14:48,964 --> 00:14:51,004 Well, it's over an hour later. 298 00:14:51,004 --> 00:14:53,884 I've been told that one eyelid has drooped. 299 00:14:53,884 --> 00:14:56,884 I don't feel that much different. Am I in the mood for dancing? 300 00:14:56,884 --> 00:14:58,524 Absolutely. 301 00:14:58,524 --> 00:15:00,364 Do I feel sexy? 302 00:15:00,364 --> 00:15:03,724 Barely. Although I do have the sensation of wanting 303 00:15:03,724 --> 00:15:05,964 someone else to brush my hair. 304 00:15:07,004 --> 00:15:10,044 It's said the experiment replicates exactly 305 00:15:10,044 --> 00:15:12,084 the sensation of recreational drug use. 306 00:15:13,724 --> 00:15:16,924 Although, instead of being surrounded by revellers chewing gum 307 00:15:16,924 --> 00:15:20,204 and asking if you're having a good time, my only companion was 308 00:15:20,204 --> 00:15:23,244 a bearded doctor drinking coffee and reading a magazine. 309 00:15:25,804 --> 00:15:29,844 Well, the effects have completely worn off. My main recollection 310 00:15:29,844 --> 00:15:34,804 is an overwhelming desire to put on my comfy pyjamas and watch Tarzan. 311 00:15:34,804 --> 00:15:36,244 Is that sexy? 312 00:15:36,244 --> 00:15:37,684 I've no idea. 313 00:15:37,684 --> 00:15:42,004 But it was a very new feeling and it was a very real feeling. 314 00:15:42,004 --> 00:15:45,364 But what is a chemsex party actually like? 315 00:15:45,364 --> 00:15:48,444 I made discrete enquiries at several Norwich pubs 316 00:15:48,444 --> 00:15:51,324 and the comments section of a local newspaper, 317 00:15:51,324 --> 00:15:54,404 and was soon invited to a party in a suburban area 318 00:15:54,404 --> 00:15:56,964 I won't name in order to protect house prices. 319 00:15:56,964 --> 00:15:59,404 INDISTINCT CHATTER 320 00:15:59,404 --> 00:16:01,444 But when I got there, the revellers were wary. 321 00:16:01,444 --> 00:16:02,804 Evening. 322 00:16:02,804 --> 00:16:04,924 Whether or not that was because I introduced myself 323 00:16:04,924 --> 00:16:07,964 with the words, "BBC Television. Who here likes chemsex?", 324 00:16:07,964 --> 00:16:10,764 I don't know, but it took some time before I got any of them 325 00:16:10,764 --> 00:16:12,164 to open up, verbally. 326 00:16:12,164 --> 00:16:13,804 So, guys, talk me through this. 327 00:16:13,804 --> 00:16:18,484 You gather at a modern suburban semi, 328 00:16:18,484 --> 00:16:20,884 you take your drugs 329 00:16:20,884 --> 00:16:23,644 and then it's kecks off and away you go? 330 00:16:23,644 --> 00:16:26,284 Well, yeah. Normally it lasts all weekend, 331 00:16:26,284 --> 00:16:27,604 till Monday night sometimes. 332 00:16:27,604 --> 00:16:30,084 Crikey, Bob! Three days straight?! 333 00:16:30,084 --> 00:16:33,124 I mean, surely it gets to halfway through the Monday 334 00:16:33,124 --> 00:16:35,564 and you think, "I just want to put on some toast." 335 00:16:35,564 --> 00:16:38,204 Yeah, but by this stage you've just been... 336 00:16:38,204 --> 00:16:40,844 I then bumped into a man I'd once canaped with 337 00:16:40,844 --> 00:16:43,004 at a local radio fundraiser. 338 00:16:43,004 --> 00:16:46,324 Holistic Media, summer drinks party, about a couple of years ago? Mm. 339 00:16:46,324 --> 00:16:48,364 Didn't know you're into chemsex. 340 00:16:48,364 --> 00:16:50,884 Yeah. Cathedral FM? 341 00:16:50,884 --> 00:16:52,364 Cathedral Digital. 342 00:16:52,364 --> 00:16:54,044 Why did I think you were an analogue? 343 00:16:54,044 --> 00:16:56,284 Uh, well, we're trying to get an FM licence. Ah. 344 00:16:56,284 --> 00:16:58,124 Cos our listeners skew older, you know, 345 00:16:58,124 --> 00:16:59,924 it broadens your listener base. Yeah. 346 00:16:59,924 --> 00:17:02,964 It broadens your listener base overnight. Fine if Ofcom give you 347 00:17:02,964 --> 00:17:06,164 the green light. Oh, mate, do not talk to me about Ofcom! 348 00:17:06,164 --> 00:17:09,284 Uh-oh! So, you know they extended FM licences? To 2032. 349 00:17:09,284 --> 00:17:12,124 Yeah, but what they don't tell you is all the hoops you have to 350 00:17:12,124 --> 00:17:15,684 jump through. Six hours of locally made programmes a day. 351 00:17:15,684 --> 00:17:18,044 I thought it was three hours. Mn-mn. 352 00:17:18,044 --> 00:17:20,644 That's only if you broadcast local news on the hour. 353 00:17:20,644 --> 00:17:23,924 We only do peak times. Ah, breakfast and drive. Yeah, exactly. 354 00:17:23,924 --> 00:17:25,364 So we've gone for the... 355 00:17:25,364 --> 00:17:28,244 And then it hit me - the demise of men's social groups, 356 00:17:28,244 --> 00:17:30,444 from the Rotary Club to trade unions, 357 00:17:30,444 --> 00:17:33,484 to the Duke of Edinburgh Award Scheme and Round Table, 358 00:17:33,484 --> 00:17:36,044 has left men yearning for male contact. 359 00:17:36,044 --> 00:17:39,564 Drugged-up heavy petting is one way to go. Another is a quick pint 360 00:17:39,564 --> 00:17:42,964 and a chat about local radio, which is what we did. 361 00:17:42,964 --> 00:17:45,044 Pop your shirt on, I'll be in the car. 362 00:17:45,044 --> 00:17:47,844 Are you parked at the bottom of the lane? No, on the road, 363 00:17:47,844 --> 00:17:50,724 under a street lamp. I don't dog. 364 00:17:50,724 --> 00:17:54,084 So, yeah, on a clear day, I think you can... It's a 25-mile view. 365 00:17:54,084 --> 00:17:56,364 I enjoyed going for a pint with Clive 366 00:17:56,364 --> 00:17:58,444 and chatting about local radio. 367 00:17:58,444 --> 00:18:01,284 Regrettably, Clive's chattiness was a result of him consuming 368 00:18:01,284 --> 00:18:03,884 his entire stash of Meow-Meow, and he refused to let me go home 369 00:18:03,884 --> 00:18:06,164 until it had worn off. 370 00:18:06,164 --> 00:18:09,004 And although we won't be keeping in touch, I hope it helped him 371 00:18:09,004 --> 00:18:12,284 look at chemsex a little differently and go back to his wife. 372 00:18:12,284 --> 00:18:15,484 ..cos it's not far from the M25, so you've got that all going on... 373 00:18:17,324 --> 00:18:21,604 Well, a window into a world I'm sure many of us had little idea existed. 374 00:18:21,604 --> 00:18:24,404 Yes, it's really quite shocking, and I don't mean that 375 00:18:24,404 --> 00:18:25,964 in a finger-wagging sort of way. 376 00:18:25,964 --> 00:18:29,284 Some of these young men can be aroused for eight hours straight. 377 00:18:29,284 --> 00:18:31,924 Well, that's the equivalent of driving from London to Aberdeen 378 00:18:31,924 --> 00:18:34,604 with a permanent erection, and it's...it's not 379 00:18:34,604 --> 00:18:37,044 going to incur you penalty points, but it's... 380 00:18:37,044 --> 00:18:38,804 ..it's just a vulgar way to drive. 381 00:18:38,804 --> 00:18:41,724 If you're struggling with any of the issues tackled in Alan's report, 382 00:18:41,724 --> 00:18:44,884 see our website for a list of organisations you can talk to. 383 00:18:44,884 --> 00:18:47,724 And if you must chemsex, chemsex safe. 384 00:18:47,724 --> 00:18:49,204 Use one of these. 385 00:18:49,204 --> 00:18:51,244 It's a thick condom. 386 00:18:51,244 --> 00:18:54,564 And Simon has more of your stories of wartime heroism. 387 00:18:54,564 --> 00:18:56,724 I've got a couple of, uh, tweets have come in. 388 00:18:56,724 --> 00:19:00,324 One from Ella Blissett, who nominates her grandfather, Arthur. 389 00:19:00,324 --> 00:19:03,564 She says, "During the war, he secretly sheltered a dozen 390 00:19:03,564 --> 00:19:06,684 "Jewish women in the basement of his house in Putney." Incredible. 391 00:19:06,684 --> 00:19:10,124 In Putney? And a Tweet says, "While it's right to recognise heroism..." 392 00:19:10,124 --> 00:19:12,564 In a basement?! "..if you give them all a badge..." 393 00:19:12,564 --> 00:19:14,444 Yes, "If you give them all a badge, 394 00:19:14,444 --> 00:19:16,444 "your honours system will become devalued." 395 00:19:16,444 --> 00:19:18,284 Oh. That is a fair point, actually. 396 00:19:18,284 --> 00:19:20,844 I remember when they gave a Blue Peter badge to a dog, 397 00:19:20,844 --> 00:19:23,204 I sent mine back. Oh, you had a Blue Peter badge, did you? 398 00:19:23,204 --> 00:19:26,204 I did. I was a very proud 13-year-old. 399 00:19:26,204 --> 00:19:28,924 What did you get it for? A bring-and-buy sale? 400 00:19:28,924 --> 00:19:32,284 No, no, I restored a Victorian folly, actually. 401 00:19:32,284 --> 00:19:35,524 Um, I got permission to use 20 young offenders 402 00:19:35,524 --> 00:19:39,004 for the more menial aspects of the job. Two of them absconded but were 403 00:19:39,004 --> 00:19:42,724 successfully re-apprehended and stripped of their visiting rights. 404 00:19:42,724 --> 00:19:44,244 How old were they? 405 00:19:44,244 --> 00:19:46,284 13. We were all 13. 406 00:19:46,284 --> 00:19:50,324 Now, ask 100 middle-aged men how they wouldn't want to spend 407 00:19:50,324 --> 00:19:53,164 an evening, and inevitably the top three answers would be 408 00:19:53,164 --> 00:19:56,284 "at the theatre", "with my wife", and "in therapy". 409 00:19:56,284 --> 00:19:59,684 But an evening with our next guest not only combines all three, but 410 00:19:59,684 --> 00:20:03,364 can point to dozens of men and women who are happier for the experience. 411 00:20:03,364 --> 00:20:05,484 We are talking about drama therapy. 412 00:20:05,484 --> 00:20:07,444 Therapy? Drama? 413 00:20:07,444 --> 00:20:10,484 Well, to tell us more, we're joined by actor and therapist, Izzy Barns. 414 00:20:10,484 --> 00:20:13,404 Izzy, welcome. Thank you so much. It's a pleasure to be with you. 415 00:20:13,404 --> 00:20:16,164 Can I just say - what a wonderful voice! Thank you. 416 00:20:16,164 --> 00:20:20,084 As actors, we learn to be centred and to breathe from our diaphragms. 417 00:20:20,084 --> 00:20:22,244 Mm, and that's true of politicians, too, of course. 418 00:20:22,244 --> 00:20:25,484 Yes, Margaret Thatcher famously had a voice coach, um, 419 00:20:25,484 --> 00:20:27,524 after which her voice became a lot deeper. 420 00:20:27,524 --> 00:20:30,364 Yeah, she did. Lady Thatcher, I think, went from sounding 421 00:20:30,364 --> 00:20:33,004 like the kind of woman who wouldn't let you have your ball back, 422 00:20:33,004 --> 00:20:36,764 to sounding like a sort of a, "Ooh!" 423 00:20:36,764 --> 00:20:38,484 Like the backdraught from a furnace. 424 00:20:38,484 --> 00:20:40,364 I actually think it's quite attractive 425 00:20:40,364 --> 00:20:42,564 when women have deeper voices, don't you? 426 00:20:42,564 --> 00:20:44,844 It is. Well, I know for a fact Jacob Rees-Mogg had a poster 427 00:20:44,844 --> 00:20:46,764 of Lady Thatcher on his bedroom wall. 428 00:20:46,764 --> 00:20:47,924 Sorry, ceiling. 429 00:20:47,924 --> 00:20:51,484 So, drama therapy, it's therapy that uses role play to help people 430 00:20:51,484 --> 00:20:54,764 work through difficult or challenging situations. 431 00:20:54,764 --> 00:20:58,644 Well, like therapy, good drama encourages us to look inside. 432 00:20:58,644 --> 00:21:01,444 Mm. It helps us to understand our own behaviour 433 00:21:01,444 --> 00:21:03,444 and deal with emotional issues. 434 00:21:03,444 --> 00:21:07,124 In fact, Simon was telling me earlier that Aristotle coined 435 00:21:07,124 --> 00:21:12,004 the term "catharsis" to describe the healing we experience through drama. 436 00:21:12,004 --> 00:21:14,804 Hubris, nemesis, catharsis. 437 00:21:14,804 --> 00:21:16,644 It's all Greek to me! 438 00:21:16,644 --> 00:21:18,524 I thought I'd do the joke this time, 439 00:21:18,524 --> 00:21:20,524 seeing as Simon was being a bit serious. 440 00:21:20,524 --> 00:21:23,924 But what kind of problems does drama therapy help to confront? 441 00:21:23,924 --> 00:21:27,524 It's very versatile. Marital strife, workplace disagreements, 442 00:21:27,524 --> 00:21:30,964 psychological trauma. Drama therapy is not always easy. It can be very 443 00:21:30,964 --> 00:21:34,684 challenging and sometimes tearful, but it should always feel welcoming. 444 00:21:34,684 --> 00:21:37,204 I think you just described the pub quiz I go to. 445 00:21:37,204 --> 00:21:39,604 JENNIE LAUGHS You see, you should be saying this. 446 00:21:39,604 --> 00:21:42,764 Catharsis! Now, I believe we're going to see some drama therapy 447 00:21:42,764 --> 00:21:46,164 in action. That's right, Jennie. Over here, we have two actors... 448 00:21:46,164 --> 00:21:49,604 Mm-hm. ..Daniel and Louise, and in a typical therapy situation, 449 00:21:49,604 --> 00:21:53,204 they would play out scenarios that couples can try themselves. 450 00:21:53,204 --> 00:21:56,364 Right. Um, now, in this scenario, 451 00:21:56,364 --> 00:21:59,884 Louise thinks that Daniel is emotionally closed off, 452 00:21:59,884 --> 00:22:02,084 but Daniel feels that as he's getting older, 453 00:22:02,084 --> 00:22:03,884 he does need more space. 454 00:22:03,884 --> 00:22:05,444 Guys? 455 00:22:05,444 --> 00:22:07,564 And you wonder why we never resolve anything. 456 00:22:07,564 --> 00:22:10,484 It's because we argue and then, five minutes later, you get upset 457 00:22:10,484 --> 00:22:12,244 and I have to back down. 458 00:22:12,244 --> 00:22:14,164 No-one's saying you have to. 459 00:22:14,164 --> 00:22:16,324 But that's what happens when you play that card. 460 00:22:16,324 --> 00:22:18,604 It's not a card, Daniel. It's how I feel. 461 00:22:18,604 --> 00:22:22,324 Just because you're a closed book doesn't mean I have to be. 462 00:22:22,324 --> 00:22:23,764 What am I supposed to say to that? 463 00:22:23,764 --> 00:22:26,684 You should tell her that... Sorry, that's... No, no, no, that's fine. 464 00:22:26,684 --> 00:22:28,804 Do you want to jump in? Oh, me? God, no. 465 00:22:28,804 --> 00:22:31,044 Yeah, no, please do, step in for Daniel. 466 00:22:31,044 --> 00:22:33,844 No, it's just, I've not acted for quite a while. 467 00:22:33,844 --> 00:22:35,924 Oh, I'm sorry, I hadn't realised you acted. 468 00:22:35,924 --> 00:22:38,524 Oh, uh, yeah, I mean, just with North Norfolk Players, 469 00:22:38,524 --> 00:22:41,644 a bit of acting, producing, directing. 470 00:22:41,644 --> 00:22:44,124 Most recently, A Few Good Men, so, yeah. 471 00:22:44,124 --> 00:22:47,284 Oh, amazing, what part did you play? The Jack Nicholson role, so, yeah. 472 00:22:47,284 --> 00:22:50,484 Ooh! Yeah. A bit of a tough act to follow, but, uh, 473 00:22:50,484 --> 00:22:53,604 I just tried to do it sort of, you know, like...like... 474 00:22:53,604 --> 00:22:56,364 "The truth?! You can't handle the truth!" 475 00:22:56,364 --> 00:22:57,844 HE SCOFFS 476 00:22:57,844 --> 00:23:00,484 Yeah, so I sort of went higher, then I did the scoff at the end, 477 00:23:00,484 --> 00:23:02,924 which I don't think Nicholson thought of, so... 478 00:23:02,924 --> 00:23:05,364 Well, how would you feel about having a go at this scene? 479 00:23:05,364 --> 00:23:06,964 Uh, yeah, sure. Why not? 480 00:23:06,964 --> 00:23:10,844 Oh, great. OK, um, Daniel, you step out. 481 00:23:10,844 --> 00:23:13,884 Louise, you're in the kitchen, you're making dinner. 482 00:23:13,884 --> 00:23:17,364 And, Alan, just start a conversation when you're ready. OK. 483 00:23:24,844 --> 00:23:26,684 Don't overthink it. OK, yeah, right. 484 00:23:35,204 --> 00:23:37,724 Mm, smells good. 485 00:23:37,724 --> 00:23:39,284 It's just spag bol. 486 00:23:39,284 --> 00:23:40,644 I didn't mean the dinner. 487 00:23:40,644 --> 00:23:42,644 Well, you never normally come in till it's cold. 488 00:23:42,644 --> 00:23:44,004 HE SIGHS 489 00:23:44,004 --> 00:23:47,844 Look, I'm sorry to go on. I just don't want you to feel 490 00:23:47,844 --> 00:23:50,884 like I'm complaining because I want to spend time with you. 491 00:23:50,884 --> 00:23:54,724 AMERICAN ACCENT: Hey, baby girl, just been out on my bike. 492 00:23:54,724 --> 00:23:57,364 My motorcycling's important to me, you know that. 493 00:23:59,884 --> 00:24:01,964 But you know the best part of the journey? 494 00:24:01,964 --> 00:24:04,164 HE EXHALES 495 00:24:04,164 --> 00:24:06,604 Riding that steel horse back home to you. 496 00:24:06,604 --> 00:24:09,324 Try it without the accent. Me or her? You. 497 00:24:09,324 --> 00:24:10,964 OK, but the general direction...? 498 00:24:10,964 --> 00:24:13,684 Forget all that. Both of you sit at the table. OK. 499 00:24:13,684 --> 00:24:16,964 Now, let's just pretend that she's your actual wife. 500 00:24:18,604 --> 00:24:21,124 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. 501 00:24:21,124 --> 00:24:23,564 Look, I wish I could spend more time with you. 502 00:24:23,564 --> 00:24:25,924 See, I hear you saying that, but I don't feel it. 503 00:24:25,924 --> 00:24:27,604 Then we'll figure something out, 504 00:24:27,604 --> 00:24:30,084 but you're going to have to stop going on at me. 505 00:24:30,084 --> 00:24:32,524 I'm sorry if I've got a gift that people enjoy 506 00:24:32,524 --> 00:24:35,564 and I find very satisfying. I'm sorry that you don't have that 507 00:24:35,564 --> 00:24:38,004 because, for some reason, God didn't give you any talent. 508 00:24:38,004 --> 00:24:40,204 Shall we stop there? Yeah, that felt good. 509 00:24:40,204 --> 00:24:41,844 Well, that's all we have time for. 510 00:24:41,844 --> 00:24:43,884 Plenty of food for thought there. 511 00:24:43,884 --> 00:24:47,324 Izzy, Daniel and Louise - thank you so much for joining us. 512 00:24:47,324 --> 00:24:52,004 Now, when we think of archaeology, we picture mud, drizzle 513 00:24:52,004 --> 00:24:54,884 and bearded men getting excited about a broken cup, 514 00:24:54,884 --> 00:24:57,924 but once upon a time, archaeology wasn't boring. 515 00:24:57,924 --> 00:24:59,924 Next year marks 100 years 516 00:24:59,924 --> 00:25:03,884 since the discovery of Tutankhamun's burial chamber, and to celebrate, 517 00:25:03,884 --> 00:25:07,044 the BBC is to recreate Howard Carter's quest 518 00:25:07,044 --> 00:25:08,604 to find the lost tomb. 519 00:25:08,604 --> 00:25:12,084 In a moment we'll talk to the show's presenter, Sam Chatwin. 520 00:25:12,084 --> 00:25:15,564 But first, our 60-second lowdown on Howard Carter 521 00:25:15,564 --> 00:25:17,444 and the search for King Tut. 522 00:25:19,244 --> 00:25:21,044 And we're off. 523 00:25:21,044 --> 00:25:22,564 I'd forgotten about that. 524 00:25:22,564 --> 00:25:24,524 Good news from Norwich. Go on. 525 00:25:24,524 --> 00:25:26,844 Greville Marchant has just got done by the Inland Revenue. 526 00:25:26,844 --> 00:25:29,764 Your anonymous phone call? It worked. Well done, Lynn. 527 00:25:32,564 --> 00:25:35,284 I am sorry about you and Sam. 528 00:25:35,284 --> 00:25:37,284 Well, I'm sure it's for the best. 529 00:25:37,284 --> 00:25:39,324 That's the spirit. You're not a fan, then? 530 00:25:39,324 --> 00:25:43,004 Oh, well it's not my place to say. 531 00:25:43,004 --> 00:25:45,404 No, I'd be interested to know what you... 532 00:25:45,404 --> 00:25:48,684 I thought he was a bighead. Cocky. 533 00:25:48,684 --> 00:25:50,444 Smarmy. 534 00:25:50,444 --> 00:25:52,124 Slippery. 535 00:25:52,124 --> 00:25:54,364 Yeah, well, you think you know someone... 536 00:25:54,364 --> 00:25:57,604 I wouldn't worry. One day someone will wipe the smile off his face. 537 00:25:59,044 --> 00:26:01,284 And his eyes are too thin. 538 00:26:04,444 --> 00:26:06,644 Lynn doesn't pull any punches, does she? 539 00:26:06,644 --> 00:26:09,364 Oh, no, no. Do you know, she once saw a pheasant 540 00:26:09,364 --> 00:26:12,444 limping by the side of the road, got out the car, wrung its neck, 541 00:26:12,444 --> 00:26:14,884 made the sign of the cross, chucked it in the boot, got back in. 542 00:26:14,884 --> 00:26:17,324 The whole thing was over in less than ten seconds. 543 00:26:17,324 --> 00:26:19,364 Clear the floor. 544 00:26:20,604 --> 00:26:22,724 Didn't have much of a limp, to be honest. 545 00:26:22,724 --> 00:26:24,284 Can we get the link to Sam Chatwin? 546 00:26:24,284 --> 00:26:26,684 Now, listen, I've got this, right? You sit it out. 547 00:26:26,684 --> 00:26:28,324 No, I should do it, it's fine. 548 00:26:28,324 --> 00:26:31,124 It's just a normal guest with a show to plug. 549 00:26:31,124 --> 00:26:33,764 All right, but don't let him get in here. Mm-hm. 550 00:26:33,764 --> 00:26:36,844 Yeah, that's a no-go area, because I know what his type are like. 551 00:26:36,844 --> 00:26:39,164 He'll end up saying your love is like Egyptian gold, 552 00:26:39,164 --> 00:26:41,884 to try and win you back. And we're back on... Yeah, it'll be fine. 553 00:26:41,884 --> 00:26:44,524 ..in five, four... 554 00:26:44,524 --> 00:26:47,364 Welcome back, and as promised we're now joined by a man 555 00:26:47,364 --> 00:26:49,524 that needs no introduction, Sam Chatwin. 556 00:26:49,524 --> 00:26:51,644 Hello, Alan. Hi, Jennie. 557 00:26:51,644 --> 00:26:53,644 How are you? 558 00:26:53,644 --> 00:26:55,844 How does it feel to follow in the footsteps 559 00:26:55,844 --> 00:26:58,204 of such a revered figure as Carter? 560 00:26:58,204 --> 00:27:01,004 Jen, if I'm honest, it's truly humbling. 561 00:27:01,004 --> 00:27:02,804 Can't imagine you humbled. 562 00:27:02,804 --> 00:27:04,084 ALAN CHUCKLES 563 00:27:04,084 --> 00:27:06,004 Well, people can change. 564 00:27:06,004 --> 00:27:07,884 What about leopards? ALAN CHUCKLES 565 00:27:07,884 --> 00:27:09,924 Pardon? ALAN CHUCKLES 566 00:27:09,924 --> 00:27:12,964 Uh, now, the Valley of the Kings is an area of several thousand 567 00:27:12,964 --> 00:27:16,004 square metres, so for Howard Carter, finding Tutankhamun 568 00:27:16,004 --> 00:27:18,244 was a needle in a haystack. 569 00:27:18,244 --> 00:27:19,884 Yeah, but find him he did. 570 00:27:19,884 --> 00:27:23,484 He was patient and he didn't give up, Jennie. Nyeh. 571 00:27:23,484 --> 00:27:26,204 You know, he sorely tested the patience of his benefactor, 572 00:27:26,204 --> 00:27:29,644 Lord Carnarvon, but Carnarvon gave him one last chance. 573 00:27:29,644 --> 00:27:31,284 Ha! 574 00:27:31,284 --> 00:27:33,604 Sorry, what was that? Ha! 575 00:27:33,604 --> 00:27:35,124 Mm. 576 00:27:35,124 --> 00:27:38,564 So, uh, yes, Carter had setbacks but he wouldn't be deterred. 577 00:27:38,564 --> 00:27:41,004 "Give me one last summer," he said to Carnarvon. 578 00:27:41,004 --> 00:27:42,484 "One last summer, please." 579 00:27:42,484 --> 00:27:45,084 Carnarvon gave him that chance, and a couple of weeks later 580 00:27:45,084 --> 00:27:47,724 Carter stumbled across the tomb of Tutankhamun. 581 00:27:47,724 --> 00:27:50,764 He cracked open the plaster, held up a candle and said, 582 00:27:50,764 --> 00:27:53,844 "All I see are wonderful things." 583 00:27:53,844 --> 00:27:57,044 All had seemed lost, but there he was, gazing upon treasures 584 00:27:57,044 --> 00:27:59,884 and riches he never could have dreamed of. 585 00:27:59,884 --> 00:28:02,924 Something that applies to every one of us, Jennie. 586 00:28:02,924 --> 00:28:05,164 Wow, that's bollocks. 587 00:28:05,164 --> 00:28:07,084 And Valley of the Kings will be 588 00:28:07,084 --> 00:28:09,084 coming to BBC One in the spring. 589 00:28:09,084 --> 00:28:11,364 A very sweaty Sam Chatwin there. I don't know if that was 590 00:28:11,364 --> 00:28:14,484 because he was in Egypt or for some reason he was under pressure. 591 00:28:14,484 --> 00:28:16,604 BELL DINGS Oh, that's a Queen song! 592 00:28:16,604 --> 00:28:18,364 Under Pressure. It is! That's 12! 593 00:28:18,364 --> 00:28:20,084 APPLAUSE Goodnight. 594 00:28:20,084 --> 00:28:21,524 Goodnight. 50864

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