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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:05,977 --> 00:00:10,183 [low droning music] 2 00:00:24,628 --> 00:00:26,661 [birds chirping] 3 00:00:38,312 --> 00:00:42,083 [ominous piano music] 4 00:00:57,892 --> 00:01:01,135 [static whirring] 5 00:01:02,534 --> 00:01:04,138 [beeping] 6 00:01:08,243 --> 00:01:10,309 [Alice] I think the house is alive. 7 00:01:11,873 --> 00:01:14,577 There's a consciousness here. 8 00:01:14,612 --> 00:01:16,678 You just know you're being watched. 9 00:01:17,615 --> 00:01:19,780 I started seeing light formations, 10 00:01:19,815 --> 00:01:22,255 bizarre light formations. 11 00:01:22,290 --> 00:01:24,257 It scared me so bad 12 00:01:24,292 --> 00:01:27,458 that when I close my eyes, I still see it. 13 00:01:29,396 --> 00:01:31,891 I can't stay here at night by myself. 14 00:01:31,926 --> 00:01:35,664 [eerie piano instrumental] 15 00:01:55,653 --> 00:02:00,689 ♪ 16 00:02:20,447 --> 00:02:25,450 ♪ 17 00:02:27,850 --> 00:02:28,981 [music ends abruptly] 18 00:02:29,016 --> 00:02:33,491 [ominous instrumental] 19 00:02:46,275 --> 00:02:47,967 My name is Alice Jackson. 20 00:02:48,002 --> 00:02:50,409 I've had this house-- I owned this house 21 00:02:50,444 --> 00:02:53,808 in Florence since 1990. 22 00:02:55,449 --> 00:02:57,251 In the last two years, 23 00:02:57,286 --> 00:02:59,946 there's been a lot of interest in the house. 24 00:02:59,981 --> 00:03:02,685 For one thing, it just makes it more comfortable a-- 25 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:04,390 around my neighborhood. 26 00:03:04,425 --> 00:03:07,261 I mean, now everybody knows about the house 27 00:03:07,296 --> 00:03:09,890 and it's very well accepted. 28 00:03:09,925 --> 00:03:11,463 People are very supportive. 29 00:03:12,631 --> 00:03:14,598 They'll tell you their own stories about things. 30 00:03:14,633 --> 00:03:15,863 They understand your experience 31 00:03:15,898 --> 00:03:17,535 and it's very positive. 32 00:03:17,570 --> 00:03:19,405 It resonates with people because obviously 33 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:21,770 it's a universal experience to some degree. 34 00:03:21,805 --> 00:03:23,904 I mean, it's throughout-- you know, throughout history , 35 00:03:23,939 --> 00:03:25,345 there's always been ghost stories, 36 00:03:25,380 --> 00:03:26,709 always been strange stories. 37 00:03:26,744 --> 00:03:28,843 People can relate to the experience. 38 00:03:32,420 --> 00:03:34,046 I love my house. 39 00:03:34,081 --> 00:03:36,323 It feels peaceful in the daytime. 40 00:03:36,358 --> 00:03:37,654 I like to come in and read a book. 41 00:03:37,689 --> 00:03:39,491 I like to have my friends over. 42 00:03:41,594 --> 00:03:44,463 But it's just different at night. 43 00:03:44,498 --> 00:03:46,432 I mean, it really is just different. 44 00:03:46,467 --> 00:03:49,798 [eerie instrumental] 45 00:03:56,037 --> 00:03:57,608 [clacks] 46 00:03:59,546 --> 00:04:01,513 [Steve] I think a lot of people who 47 00:04:01,548 --> 00:04:03,350 think somebody deals with a haunted house, 48 00:04:03,385 --> 00:04:04,780 especially nowadays, 49 00:04:04,815 --> 00:04:06,617 they think it's kind of cool, you know? 50 00:04:06,652 --> 00:04:09,521 They're kind of like, "It's awesome." You know? 51 00:04:09,556 --> 00:04:10,984 "Everybody wants a haunted house." 52 00:04:11,019 --> 00:04:12,524 But when you live in one, 53 00:04:12,559 --> 00:04:15,329 it's not quite that way, you know? 54 00:04:15,364 --> 00:04:18,464 So, there must have been a bit of a path of emotions 55 00:04:18,499 --> 00:04:20,532 that have happened over the years. 56 00:04:20,567 --> 00:04:23,865 For-- for 20 years we had things moving, 57 00:04:23,900 --> 00:04:25,801 ghost activity, doors opening. 58 00:04:25,836 --> 00:04:27,440 And I accepted that. 59 00:04:27,475 --> 00:04:31,103 ♪ 60 00:04:31,138 --> 00:04:32,940 [thudding] 61 00:04:32,975 --> 00:04:38,385 ♪ 62 00:04:43,150 --> 00:04:44,589 [woman 1] Okay, one more time. 63 00:04:44,624 --> 00:04:46,118 Loud enough for everybody to hear. 64 00:04:46,153 --> 00:04:48,461 Can you please whistle one more time? 65 00:04:50,894 --> 00:04:53,532 [eerie whistle] 66 00:04:53,567 --> 00:04:55,864 -[man 1] That's upstairs. -[woman 2] Yup. You hear that? 67 00:04:59,771 --> 00:05:01,507 [man 2] It hasn't happen again, though. 68 00:05:01,542 --> 00:05:02,805 -[man 1] Ask again, can you... 69 00:05:02,840 --> 00:05:04,873 [woman] Can you whistle one more time? 70 00:05:04,908 --> 00:05:06,446 Loud. 71 00:05:07,845 --> 00:05:09,845 [eerie whistle] 72 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:11,418 [indistinct speaking] 73 00:05:11,453 --> 00:05:12,947 [man 1] That's bullshit. That's upstairs. 74 00:05:12,982 --> 00:05:14,718 -[woman 1] It's in that, um-- -[woman 2] It's only at... 75 00:05:14,753 --> 00:05:16,984 [woman 1] It's in that room, um-- 76 00:05:17,019 --> 00:05:18,590 It's in the crawlspace. 77 00:05:19,494 --> 00:05:21,857 Can you whistle one more time for me? 78 00:05:21,892 --> 00:05:24,794 [silence] 79 00:05:29,636 --> 00:05:30,833 [woman 1] Come on, [indistinct]. 80 00:05:30,868 --> 00:05:31,966 One more time, loud. 81 00:05:32,001 --> 00:05:34,441 [eerie instrumental] 82 00:05:34,476 --> 00:05:36,003 [ball thudding] 83 00:05:36,038 --> 00:05:38,874 [people exclaim] 84 00:05:38,909 --> 00:05:40,073 [woman] Oh, my God! 85 00:05:40,108 --> 00:05:43,516 In the last, uh, 11 years, 12 years, 86 00:05:43,551 --> 00:05:46,585 uh, I started seeing light formations, 87 00:05:46,620 --> 00:05:48,114 bizarre light formation. 88 00:05:48,149 --> 00:05:53,119 ♪ 89 00:05:53,154 --> 00:05:55,088 I remember that one primary time that th-- 90 00:05:55,123 --> 00:05:56,496 I just said, "That's it." 91 00:05:56,531 --> 00:05:58,498 And that was, uh, an area of, um, 92 00:05:58,533 --> 00:06:01,094 a cylinder of daylight in a pitch black room, 93 00:06:01,129 --> 00:06:02,865 light that didn't diffuse, that was it. 94 00:06:02,900 --> 00:06:05,439 I didn't know if it was just a fluke 95 00:06:05,474 --> 00:06:06,935 that it happened when I was in that room 96 00:06:06,970 --> 00:06:09,674 or if it happened because I was in that room. 97 00:06:09,709 --> 00:06:11,577 So uh-- 98 00:06:11,612 --> 00:06:13,876 And then also I did at the same time 99 00:06:13,911 --> 00:06:16,945 have a strong feeling that I was being observed. 100 00:06:16,980 --> 00:06:19,618 So, I didn't know if there was a conscious presence 101 00:06:19,653 --> 00:06:22,115 observing that room for some reason 102 00:06:22,150 --> 00:06:24,051 or if, uh, I was the target. 103 00:06:24,086 --> 00:06:29,496 ♪ 104 00:06:30,697 --> 00:06:32,631 It happened because I was in that room. 105 00:06:32,666 --> 00:06:36,602 -So, uh-- And then also I did-- -[disembodied voice] 106 00:06:36,637 --> 00:06:41,508 ♪ 107 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:52,816 [John] Alice's house, 108 00:06:52,851 --> 00:06:55,786 I do feel like it's still learning to communicate. 109 00:06:56,987 --> 00:07:00,087 I still feel like we are teaching the spirits 110 00:07:00,122 --> 00:07:01,792 in a-- in a weird way. 111 00:07:03,664 --> 00:07:06,467 Do I think the house is still learning? 112 00:07:07,063 --> 00:07:08,964 It-- it appears to be 113 00:07:08,999 --> 00:07:11,131 responding to our requests. 114 00:07:11,705 --> 00:07:14,101 [John] So, we have a baseball, 115 00:07:14,136 --> 00:07:15,641 I believe, we have on the stairs-- 116 00:07:15,676 --> 00:07:17,236 I'm gonna put our sweet little doll 117 00:07:17,271 --> 00:07:18,743 here on the stairs. 118 00:07:20,846 --> 00:07:23,913 We put a doll in a blue dress on the stairwell. 119 00:07:27,149 --> 00:07:29,754 We focus solely on this object. 120 00:07:30,284 --> 00:07:32,724 [patting on the carpet] 121 00:07:33,628 --> 00:07:35,023 [Brad] I see the doll for sure. 122 00:07:35,663 --> 00:07:36,893 -[John] That's fine. That's-- -[Brad] Yeah, we're good. 123 00:07:36,928 --> 00:07:38,191 That's mainly what I want right there. 124 00:07:38,226 --> 00:07:39,632 Yeah. That's good. 125 00:07:40,635 --> 00:07:42,261 [John] All right, so you have John, Alice, 126 00:07:42,296 --> 00:07:44,571 Brad in the house investigating tonight. 127 00:07:45,332 --> 00:07:47,772 We would love some kind of visual representation 128 00:07:47,807 --> 00:07:49,136 that you can hear our voices 129 00:07:49,171 --> 00:07:50,170 and you can communicate with us. 130 00:07:51,106 --> 00:07:53,239 And we continue to ask over and over again 131 00:07:53,274 --> 00:07:55,274 that any intelligent entity that's here, 132 00:07:55,309 --> 00:07:56,781 push that doll down. 133 00:07:59,082 --> 00:08:02,655 There's been objects that have moved off the stairs. 134 00:08:03,691 --> 00:08:04,954 They've been pushed. 135 00:08:07,728 --> 00:08:09,057 Can you do that again? 136 00:08:09,092 --> 00:08:10,531 Is that possible? 137 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:12,533 Push that little doll. 138 00:08:13,836 --> 00:08:15,734 That little doll on the stairs, just push it backwards for us. 139 00:08:15,769 --> 00:08:20,805 ♪ 140 00:08:23,711 --> 00:08:26,338 [John] So, we are verbally asking you 141 00:08:26,373 --> 00:08:28,780 to focus your energy on that blue doll. 142 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:33,719 And eventually... 143 00:08:35,217 --> 00:08:36,986 Amazingly, 144 00:08:37,021 --> 00:08:38,592 the doll fell. 145 00:08:38,627 --> 00:08:41,056 [Alice] Every time I come, I ask that doll to fall. 146 00:08:41,091 --> 00:08:42,695 -I do, too-- -I'd say that. 147 00:08:42,730 --> 00:08:44,323 And I was reinforcin' it and I said, 148 00:08:44,358 --> 00:08:46,160 "John, we'd love for you to have it fall 149 00:08:46,195 --> 00:08:48,162 even now or even [indistinct]." 150 00:08:48,197 --> 00:08:53,574 ♪ 151 00:08:55,974 --> 00:08:57,204 [thudding] 152 00:08:57,239 --> 00:09:02,616 ♪ 153 00:09:06,655 --> 00:09:08,215 Oh, my God. [indistinct]. 154 00:09:08,250 --> 00:09:13,660 ♪ 155 00:09:26,268 --> 00:09:27,839 [Alice] Oh, wow. 156 00:09:27,874 --> 00:09:32,877 ♪ 157 00:09:39,413 --> 00:09:43,690 [ball thudding several times] 158 00:09:43,725 --> 00:09:47,023 The ball's come down the steps several times still. 159 00:09:47,388 --> 00:09:49,729 And more recently, it's actually seems like 160 00:09:49,764 --> 00:09:51,896 the ball has gotten more aggressive 161 00:09:51,931 --> 00:09:53,733 when it comes off the stairs, 162 00:09:53,768 --> 00:09:55,801 even to the fact where it will actually pivot almost 163 00:09:55,836 --> 00:09:57,935 before it actually just falls straight off. 164 00:09:57,970 --> 00:10:03,006 ♪ 165 00:10:06,143 --> 00:10:09,111 [ball bouncing] 166 00:10:17,319 --> 00:10:21,662 [ball bouncing] 167 00:10:30,398 --> 00:10:33,773 [ball bouncing] 168 00:10:34,336 --> 00:10:38,107 [indistinct chatter] 169 00:10:43,279 --> 00:10:46,181 [clattering] 170 00:10:46,216 --> 00:10:48,414 -Oh, shit! -[indistinct] 171 00:10:48,449 --> 00:10:50,757 [Alice] Yeah, shit! Oh, baby, oh, my God. 172 00:10:50,792 --> 00:10:52,319 Look at that-- Look at my arms. 173 00:10:52,354 --> 00:10:53,892 -[indistinct] -So, which one? 174 00:10:53,927 --> 00:10:57,192 -So, it's 12:57-- -[overlapping chatter] 175 00:10:57,227 --> 00:10:59,491 Oh, look. Let's come over here and look. 176 00:10:59,526 --> 00:11:02,263 Uh, the keyboards play by itself on command. 177 00:11:02,298 --> 00:11:06,201 The organ, uh, the piano playing on command, 178 00:11:06,236 --> 00:11:08,170 responding with deep burst. 179 00:11:08,205 --> 00:11:10,304 Uh, that-- that's been something that's been new. 180 00:11:10,339 --> 00:11:13,142 So, if you wanna walk over here and play that keyboard, 181 00:11:13,177 --> 00:11:15,848 or play that piano, play it for us. 182 00:11:15,883 --> 00:11:19,214 Just give us some kind of sign that you're here, 183 00:11:19,249 --> 00:11:21,084 you can hear our voice 184 00:11:21,119 --> 00:11:23,317 and, uh, you want to communicate with us 185 00:11:23,352 --> 00:11:24,989 for a little bit of time. 186 00:11:25,024 --> 00:11:26,925 So, if you could light that up, that'd be fantastic. 187 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:28,454 Obviously, you know, you can always turn the chandelier off 188 00:11:28,489 --> 00:11:29,961 to get our attention. 189 00:11:29,996 --> 00:11:31,490 Put a ball in this little chair right here, 190 00:11:31,525 --> 00:11:34,097 by doll and you know-- 191 00:11:36,167 --> 00:11:37,969 -[music playing] -[Brad] Un-- Unbelievable. 192 00:11:38,466 --> 00:11:39,971 What the-- 193 00:11:40,006 --> 00:11:41,808 Dude, tell me what the odds are. 194 00:11:41,843 --> 00:11:45,108 -[distant instrumental noises] -[background chatter] 195 00:11:49,147 --> 00:11:50,784 [man] It's clearly Sabrina. 196 00:11:50,819 --> 00:11:52,181 [John] That was [indistinct]. 197 00:11:53,580 --> 00:11:56,020 -[Brad] Oh, shit. -[Alice] Holy shit. Yeah. 198 00:11:56,990 --> 00:11:58,286 [John] My music box is playing 199 00:11:58,321 --> 00:11:59,793 -[woman] It is! -[Alice] Oh. 200 00:12:02,930 --> 00:12:05,161 -[woman] Did you hear music? -[man] Yes, certainly. 201 00:12:06,098 --> 00:12:07,163 It faded out. 202 00:12:07,198 --> 00:12:09,264 [Alice] But what is it? [indistinct] 203 00:12:09,904 --> 00:12:13,807 [indistinct chatter] 204 00:12:15,206 --> 00:12:16,843 [Brad] Yeah. 205 00:12:16,878 --> 00:12:19,912 [indistinct] 206 00:12:19,947 --> 00:12:22,783 Oh, look at this, look at this, look at this! 207 00:12:23,577 --> 00:12:25,148 Did you hear that? 208 00:12:25,183 --> 00:12:27,953 Dude, that frickin' piano just played by itself! 209 00:12:30,155 --> 00:12:32,551 [John] One of the major differences 210 00:12:32,586 --> 00:12:34,586 with the chandelier is not only 211 00:12:34,621 --> 00:12:36,489 does it turn off now, 212 00:12:36,524 --> 00:12:37,963 but we've actually captured 213 00:12:37,998 --> 00:12:40,328 the chandelier turning on by itself. 214 00:12:40,363 --> 00:12:45,399 ♪ 215 00:12:45,434 --> 00:12:46,598 We've been asking the-- 216 00:12:46,633 --> 00:12:50,041 the-- whatever's 217 00:12:50,076 --> 00:12:52,142 shutting that light off 218 00:12:52,177 --> 00:12:53,440 to turn back on. 219 00:12:53,981 --> 00:12:56,949 And that hasn't happened ever until recently. 220 00:12:56,984 --> 00:12:59,952 All of a sudden it starts happening. 221 00:13:01,549 --> 00:13:03,824 [Alice] Hey, what'll be? 222 00:13:05,355 --> 00:13:07,993 [indistinct] 223 00:13:08,622 --> 00:13:10,160 Be back tomorrow. 224 00:13:16,531 --> 00:13:18,234 So, if you want to do something, 225 00:13:18,269 --> 00:13:20,071 we-- we'll still be able to see it. 226 00:13:20,106 --> 00:13:21,435 If you want to turn that light on, 227 00:13:21,470 --> 00:13:22,535 we'll be able to see it. 228 00:13:22,570 --> 00:13:27,980 ♪ 229 00:13:37,992 --> 00:13:40,223 I think that when we put our energy into it 230 00:13:40,258 --> 00:13:42,621 and we can express the emotions that we have 231 00:13:42,656 --> 00:13:44,623 and how important it is, there's something 232 00:13:44,658 --> 00:13:46,295 in this house and these four walls 233 00:13:46,330 --> 00:13:49,001 in this land that's reacting to us, 234 00:13:49,036 --> 00:13:51,300 and it wants to help tell its story. 235 00:13:52,237 --> 00:13:55,106 [bird chirps] 236 00:13:55,141 --> 00:13:58,274 How does it make you feel knowing that you have 237 00:13:58,309 --> 00:14:00,309 this beautiful house, 238 00:14:00,344 --> 00:14:02,509 um, but you literally 239 00:14:02,544 --> 00:14:04,214 have to live somewhere else? 240 00:14:04,249 --> 00:14:06,953 Yeah, I remember thinking, you know, 241 00:14:06,988 --> 00:14:09,681 before that I might probably need to sell it 242 00:14:09,716 --> 00:14:11,958 because I'm doing the upkeep and, you know, 243 00:14:11,993 --> 00:14:13,256 and, um... 244 00:14:14,425 --> 00:14:17,656 But I can't because I feel emotionally attached to it. 245 00:14:17,691 --> 00:14:21,396 Actually, my daughter died September of 2020. 246 00:14:21,431 --> 00:14:24,399 But I think I've processed it pretty well 247 00:14:24,434 --> 00:14:26,973 because she was very ill and I knew that, 248 00:14:27,008 --> 00:14:28,271 I knew that she was dying. 249 00:14:28,306 --> 00:14:29,536 And, you know, and we had time-- 250 00:14:29,571 --> 00:14:31,109 We even talked about it. 251 00:14:31,144 --> 00:14:33,012 We had time to express ourselves and, you know, 252 00:14:33,047 --> 00:14:35,707 we had this-- she said, "I'm-- I hope I die 253 00:14:35,742 --> 00:14:37,379 before you do because," she said, 254 00:14:37,414 --> 00:14:39,084 "I think you could handle it better than I could." 255 00:14:41,088 --> 00:14:44,221 [low background chatter] 256 00:14:44,256 --> 00:14:46,124 You are the best mom ever. 257 00:14:46,522 --> 00:14:48,225 [laughing] 258 00:14:51,329 --> 00:14:53,362 She had a lot of experiences, and so did I, 259 00:14:53,397 --> 00:14:55,067 and I really kind of hate that they're gone 260 00:14:55,102 --> 00:14:56,563 except just in my own memory. 261 00:14:56,598 --> 00:15:02,008 ♪ 262 00:15:04,276 --> 00:15:06,210 Oh, look. We really have this thing. 263 00:15:06,245 --> 00:15:07,574 -[Steve] Looks good! -[man] All right. 264 00:15:07,609 --> 00:15:09,180 This is roll A02 clip four, 265 00:15:09,215 --> 00:15:10,709 this is Ashley Pevey's interview. 266 00:15:10,744 --> 00:15:12,282 -On marker. -[click] 267 00:15:16,552 --> 00:15:18,090 I'm Ashley Pevey. 268 00:15:18,455 --> 00:15:19,619 I grew up in this house 269 00:15:19,654 --> 00:15:22,490 and my mom is Alice Jackson. 270 00:15:24,230 --> 00:15:25,493 [Steve] Do you believe in ghosts? 271 00:15:26,364 --> 00:15:29,332 Oh, yeah, I do believe in ghosts. 272 00:15:31,369 --> 00:15:34,436 But I'm-- I'm real conflicted. 273 00:15:34,471 --> 00:15:37,043 I can't decide if I am 274 00:15:37,078 --> 00:15:38,605 wanting to embrace this, 275 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:42,510 or wanting to totally reject it 'cause it's scary. 276 00:15:42,545 --> 00:15:44,116 You know, it is scary. 277 00:15:44,679 --> 00:15:46,415 All these things are [laughs]. 278 00:15:47,154 --> 00:15:50,419 They're just not normal. 279 00:15:51,818 --> 00:15:54,192 I'm not really scared because I grew up here. 280 00:15:54,227 --> 00:15:55,754 I mean, I'm not really scared. 281 00:15:56,295 --> 00:15:58,625 But if something happens, 282 00:15:58,660 --> 00:16:00,297 then I get scared. 283 00:16:00,794 --> 00:16:02,497 What's my mom's name? 284 00:16:05,271 --> 00:16:06,468 Oh! 285 00:16:07,768 --> 00:16:09,471 [man] Oh, my God. [laughing] 286 00:16:09,506 --> 00:16:10,670 It's okay. 287 00:16:10,705 --> 00:16:12,771 When I had John Joseph, my child, 288 00:16:12,806 --> 00:16:14,311 he was six months old 289 00:16:14,346 --> 00:16:17,776 and we were sleeping in that bed by ourselves. 290 00:16:17,811 --> 00:16:19,481 This is the weirdest thing. 291 00:16:19,516 --> 00:16:21,153 Then he started crying. 292 00:16:21,188 --> 00:16:23,254 And so I came in this kitchen to get him some milk. 293 00:16:23,652 --> 00:16:26,323 And when I got to the kitchen to get him some milk, 294 00:16:26,358 --> 00:16:29,656 I heard this ballroom music in this living room. 295 00:16:29,691 --> 00:16:32,164 And it was like, very loud 296 00:16:32,199 --> 00:16:34,364 and it was just playin' and playin'. 297 00:16:34,762 --> 00:16:36,795 And my mother-in-law had come here 298 00:16:36,830 --> 00:16:38,269 and she was upstairs. 299 00:16:38,304 --> 00:16:40,106 And I thought, "When she wakes up, 300 00:16:40,141 --> 00:16:43,208 I'm goin' fuss at her for having that ringtone 301 00:16:43,243 --> 00:16:45,606 that plays all night long." 302 00:16:46,180 --> 00:16:49,148 But the whole time I was down here getting milk, 303 00:16:49,183 --> 00:16:51,150 there was ballroom music. 304 00:16:51,185 --> 00:16:52,415 When I got up in the morning, 305 00:16:52,450 --> 00:16:54,780 she'd not left her phone down here. 306 00:16:54,815 --> 00:16:56,353 Her phone was upstairs. 307 00:16:56,718 --> 00:16:58,751 But I heard that music. 308 00:16:58,786 --> 00:17:00,357 I mean. 309 00:17:00,392 --> 00:17:03,162 I wish somebody could find an answer 310 00:17:03,197 --> 00:17:07,364 but, um, I'm afraid of what that answer might be. 311 00:17:07,399 --> 00:17:08,464 You know? 312 00:17:09,764 --> 00:17:11,467 Ashley's passing. 313 00:17:11,898 --> 00:17:14,437 We lost her quickly. 314 00:17:14,769 --> 00:17:17,275 And Alice is so unique. 315 00:17:17,310 --> 00:17:19,706 She processes some things 316 00:17:19,741 --> 00:17:21,609 differently than anybody that I know. 317 00:17:22,183 --> 00:17:25,250 I'm actually fine because I think 318 00:17:25,285 --> 00:17:27,252 I've processed all that ahead of time. 319 00:17:27,287 --> 00:17:29,452 But I still think that life continues. 320 00:17:29,487 --> 00:17:31,850 And I really-- when I visualize her, 321 00:17:31,885 --> 00:17:36,195 my natural sense is that, um, 322 00:17:36,230 --> 00:17:38,659 she's perfectly fine, she's perfectly happy. 323 00:17:41,202 --> 00:17:42,894 [Brad] One of the reasons why we decided 324 00:17:42,929 --> 00:17:46,865 to start calling out Ashley's name 325 00:17:46,900 --> 00:17:49,736 is because she knows what we do here 326 00:17:49,771 --> 00:17:51,210 as far as investigating. 327 00:17:51,245 --> 00:17:54,411 Ashley did grow up here. She loved Alice. 328 00:17:54,776 --> 00:17:57,414 And, I mean, it makes sense. She knows what we did. 329 00:17:57,449 --> 00:17:59,218 -She liked what we did. -[Brad] And of course, 330 00:17:59,253 --> 00:18:01,748 we did this with Alice's consent, 331 00:18:01,783 --> 00:18:02,881 which is very important. 332 00:18:02,916 --> 00:18:04,850 And the night we did that, 333 00:18:04,885 --> 00:18:08,524 we did get some strange, direct responses 334 00:18:08,559 --> 00:18:10,559 from the organ over in the corner. 335 00:18:10,594 --> 00:18:12,264 [John] We were respectful, obviously. 336 00:18:12,299 --> 00:18:14,563 And we said, "Ashley, are you here?" 337 00:18:14,598 --> 00:18:16,301 You know, "Can you give us a sign?" 338 00:18:16,336 --> 00:18:18,270 You know, "We would love to communicate with you, 339 00:18:18,305 --> 00:18:20,536 talk to you, let you know Alice misses you." 340 00:18:21,275 --> 00:18:23,803 And all of a sudden, 341 00:18:23,838 --> 00:18:26,641 the organ piano started booming 342 00:18:26,676 --> 00:18:28,379 a deep bass hit. 343 00:18:29,712 --> 00:18:31,151 Ashley? 344 00:18:31,648 --> 00:18:32,944 This is John. 345 00:18:32,979 --> 00:18:35,254 -[deep thumping] -[Brad gasps] 346 00:18:35,916 --> 00:18:37,850 -Oh my-- Oh my-- -[thumping continues] 347 00:18:37,885 --> 00:18:39,456 [woman] Sounds like a heartbeat. 348 00:18:41,955 --> 00:18:43,757 [Brad] 'Cause every time we say Ashley. 349 00:18:43,792 --> 00:18:45,297 Every time. [chuckling] 350 00:18:46,696 --> 00:18:49,664 Ashley, is-- is this you? 351 00:18:49,699 --> 00:18:52,568 [faint thumping] 352 00:18:55,441 --> 00:18:57,870 [Brad] This is an ab-- absolute direct responses, 353 00:18:57,905 --> 00:19:00,279 I mean, it's unbelievable. 354 00:19:01,282 --> 00:19:02,677 It wasn't a keystroke. 355 00:19:02,712 --> 00:19:05,383 It was a thumping sound coming from the organ. 356 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:07,682 [thumping continues] 357 00:19:08,982 --> 00:19:11,257 Thank you. Keep doing that for us. 358 00:19:18,530 --> 00:19:21,465 That's a direct response. Thank you. 359 00:19:22,633 --> 00:19:26,239 [deep thumping] 360 00:19:29,376 --> 00:19:30,837 [Alice] Turn it off. Or like-- 361 00:19:30,872 --> 00:19:34,005 [thumping continues] 362 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:35,611 [Brad] [indistinct] power off. 363 00:19:35,646 --> 00:19:38,482 [Olivia] Yeah. Yeah. There's only... 364 00:19:42,015 --> 00:19:43,487 I'm just curious because whenever 365 00:19:43,522 --> 00:19:45,522 we all go back there, it stops. 366 00:19:46,558 --> 00:19:48,789 [Brad] It's off. My phone's down. Off. 367 00:19:50,364 --> 00:19:52,364 -[Olivia] Lights off-- -[Brad] Chandelier shut off. 368 00:19:52,399 --> 00:19:54,564 Later on we found out, or I found out, 369 00:19:54,599 --> 00:19:57,963 that Ashley is who gave Alice 370 00:19:57,998 --> 00:20:00,438 that piano, organ. 371 00:20:00,473 --> 00:20:02,407 We got an organ in the house. 372 00:20:02,442 --> 00:20:04,002 And, uh, we had heard, you know, 373 00:20:04,037 --> 00:20:05,674 my daughter gave it to me 374 00:20:05,709 --> 00:20:08,006 because she had heard of a lady in town was selling it 375 00:20:08,041 --> 00:20:09,744 because she said it was haunted. 376 00:20:09,779 --> 00:20:11,812 And she was trying to sell it for $150. 377 00:20:11,847 --> 00:20:13,352 Well, nobody bought it. 378 00:20:13,387 --> 00:20:15,783 And so then she said she'd sell it for $75. 379 00:20:16,390 --> 00:20:17,983 I told Ashley I would take it, you know. 380 00:20:18,018 --> 00:20:19,457 And so, uh, I went up there 381 00:20:19,492 --> 00:20:21,492 and got it and it didn't do anything. 382 00:20:21,527 --> 00:20:24,858 But when John and Brad tried to get the organ to play, 383 00:20:24,893 --> 00:20:27,630 they called her name and that's when it played. 384 00:20:28,633 --> 00:20:30,402 [faint thumping] 385 00:20:30,437 --> 00:20:31,700 [Brad] There was two right there. 386 00:20:31,735 --> 00:20:34,703 It did, "Dum-dum." You-- 'Cause you went... 387 00:20:36,344 --> 00:20:38,311 [Brad] Do I think it's Ashley? 388 00:20:38,709 --> 00:20:39,742 Again, it's speculation. 389 00:20:39,777 --> 00:20:41,974 But I think it's possible because of the amount 390 00:20:42,009 --> 00:20:43,646 of direct responses that I got. 391 00:20:43,681 --> 00:20:45,978 It's not crazy to think that this would be a place 392 00:20:46,013 --> 00:20:47,650 if Ashley was to come and visit. 393 00:20:47,685 --> 00:20:50,081 Now, I'm not saying that I necessarily 394 00:20:50,116 --> 00:20:51,720 think that was her. 395 00:20:51,755 --> 00:20:53,821 But I know that she would do that if she could. 396 00:20:55,858 --> 00:21:00,894 ♪ 397 00:21:09,971 --> 00:21:11,707 [indistinct chatter] 398 00:21:14,074 --> 00:21:16,778 Obviously, we know that the land is probably 399 00:21:16,813 --> 00:21:19,484 the heartbeat of the supernatural things 400 00:21:19,519 --> 00:21:20,782 that are happening here. 401 00:21:21,389 --> 00:21:22,685 [Brad] Say hello, John Bullard. 402 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:23,752 What's happenin'? 403 00:21:23,787 --> 00:21:25,490 [Brad] John Bullard's in the house. 404 00:21:25,525 --> 00:21:26,821 [John] Sabrina, all you need is a beach and this. 405 00:21:27,692 --> 00:21:28,856 [Brad] Amy Bullard's in the house. 406 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:32,530 Seeing the research tent pop up is cool 407 00:21:32,565 --> 00:21:34,466 because it's nice to have a base camp. 408 00:21:36,404 --> 00:21:37,667 It makes it easier for us 409 00:21:37,702 --> 00:21:39,438 to help document things in the house. 410 00:21:39,473 --> 00:21:42,540 So to see this tent, that's things we dream 411 00:21:42,575 --> 00:21:44,135 of being able to have access to 412 00:21:44,170 --> 00:21:45,576 as paranormal investigators. 413 00:21:45,611 --> 00:21:46,874 -[John] In here. -[Brad] This is awesome. 414 00:21:46,909 --> 00:21:48,348 [John] This is awesome. 415 00:21:49,483 --> 00:21:50,977 One of the most exciting things 416 00:21:51,012 --> 00:21:52,649 is the ground-penetrating radar. 417 00:21:52,684 --> 00:21:54,387 Alice has been wanting to do that for forever. 418 00:21:54,422 --> 00:21:56,719 [Benton] I'm Benton Smith with Century Mapping. 419 00:21:56,754 --> 00:21:59,722 We combine ground-penetrating radar with GPS. 420 00:22:00,527 --> 00:22:02,725 We map underground infrastructure 421 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:05,860 from cemeteries to municipalities, 422 00:22:05,895 --> 00:22:07,433 anything that's underground. 423 00:22:07,468 --> 00:22:08,698 If there was a burial, like, 424 00:22:08,733 --> 00:22:10,766 let's say a body was buried in a shroud. 425 00:22:11,197 --> 00:22:14,473 Um, body decomposes really quickly... 426 00:22:15,509 --> 00:22:18,543 leaving basically a pocket of air. 427 00:22:21,647 --> 00:22:23,647 Yeah, so. All right. So you see this? 428 00:22:24,012 --> 00:22:26,914 This could be just a change in the type of soil. 429 00:22:26,949 --> 00:22:28,520 I mean, it could be from-- 430 00:22:29,116 --> 00:22:30,885 obviously we have a lot of clay here. 431 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:32,953 But in your estimation, it would probably 432 00:22:32,988 --> 00:22:35,153 just be soil related 433 00:22:35,188 --> 00:22:37,023 and not like a man-made structure 434 00:22:37,058 --> 00:22:38,629 or burial, that sort of thing? 435 00:22:38,664 --> 00:22:40,191 -Not a burial. -Okay. 436 00:22:40,226 --> 00:22:42,028 Not a burial, but I mean, could it be 437 00:22:42,063 --> 00:22:43,502 something that was man-made, yeah. 438 00:22:43,537 --> 00:22:47,099 [ominous instrumental] 439 00:22:47,134 --> 00:22:50,806 [machinery rattling] 440 00:23:05,922 --> 00:23:10,958 ♪ 441 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:23,971 So these are-- 442 00:23:25,271 --> 00:23:26,974 These are potential burials. 443 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:29,482 It's not a lot to see. 444 00:23:29,517 --> 00:23:31,176 But you can see here 445 00:23:31,211 --> 00:23:33,112 there's a beginning and an end. 446 00:23:33,147 --> 00:23:34,817 -Yes. -[Benton] This is about 447 00:23:34,852 --> 00:23:36,016 four to five feet. 448 00:23:36,557 --> 00:23:39,921 And so everywhere that I have a red flag, 449 00:23:39,956 --> 00:23:41,054 it's very similar. 450 00:23:41,089 --> 00:23:42,594 There's something there. 451 00:23:43,597 --> 00:23:45,729 Is that typically what you would see 452 00:23:45,764 --> 00:23:47,632 if you were doing that sort of work-- 453 00:23:47,667 --> 00:23:49,832 [Benton] Yeah, in a-- For an unmarked grave? Yeah. 454 00:23:49,867 --> 00:23:52,505 -Okay. -There's certainly... 455 00:23:54,003 --> 00:23:55,871 I mean, so far I've found 456 00:23:55,906 --> 00:23:58,071 10 areas that... 457 00:24:00,174 --> 00:24:03,241 some of them could be unmarked graves. 458 00:24:03,276 --> 00:24:04,715 -Wow. -Yeah. 459 00:24:04,750 --> 00:24:06,112 -Oh, my gosh. -[Benton] Could be. 460 00:24:06,147 --> 00:24:07,718 Ten, huh? Whoo. 461 00:24:09,282 --> 00:24:12,888 [pensive instrumental] 462 00:24:17,290 --> 00:24:18,861 -[Steve] Alice? Hey. -[Alice] Hey. 463 00:24:19,897 --> 00:24:21,963 Alice, this is Carolyn. Uh, Carolyn. Uh, Alice. 464 00:24:21,998 --> 00:24:23,998 -How are you? -[Alice] Nice to meet you. 465 00:24:24,033 --> 00:24:27,606 So I brought in a geophysicist named Carolyn 466 00:24:27,641 --> 00:24:30,070 with background in astrophysics to really 467 00:24:30,105 --> 00:24:33,843 look into what could be creating that light phenomena. 468 00:24:33,878 --> 00:24:36,274 Because a lot of things can be explained 469 00:24:36,309 --> 00:24:38,848 by what's happening environmentally 470 00:24:38,883 --> 00:24:41,048 and not something paranormal. 471 00:24:41,083 --> 00:24:44,315 I'm delighted to have somebody to tell that story to 472 00:24:44,350 --> 00:24:46,119 who would understand possibly. 473 00:24:46,154 --> 00:24:48,253 My name is Carolyn Streiff 474 00:24:48,288 --> 00:24:51,091 and I am a geophysicist 475 00:24:51,126 --> 00:24:53,698 that specializes in near-surface 476 00:24:53,733 --> 00:24:56,767 geophysics acquisition and analysis. 477 00:24:58,705 --> 00:25:01,299 The ERI is a very useful tool 478 00:25:01,334 --> 00:25:03,939 because we already have known 479 00:25:03,974 --> 00:25:05,611 value ranges 480 00:25:05,646 --> 00:25:08,614 for different sediment and rock units. 481 00:25:08,649 --> 00:25:11,815 I could give some information now for Alice 482 00:25:11,850 --> 00:25:14,983 to hopefully be able to start coming to some sort of 483 00:25:15,018 --> 00:25:17,656 resolution of what is happening here. 484 00:25:18,054 --> 00:25:19,790 [Steve] She gave us a lot of theories 485 00:25:19,825 --> 00:25:22,122 as to what could be creating the phenomena 486 00:25:22,157 --> 00:25:23,255 Alice is experiencing. 487 00:25:23,290 --> 00:25:25,224 It has to do with earthquakes 488 00:25:25,259 --> 00:25:27,292 and maybe even volcanoes 489 00:25:27,327 --> 00:25:29,602 and fault lines and blue shale 490 00:25:29,637 --> 00:25:31,934 that's underneath the ground here. 491 00:25:31,969 --> 00:25:34,673 There are different types of rocks 492 00:25:34,708 --> 00:25:36,807 that when you heat them or cool them, 493 00:25:36,842 --> 00:25:38,677 they will have a voltage. 494 00:25:38,712 --> 00:25:41,746 If you compress them, if you get a charge on to them. 495 00:25:41,781 --> 00:25:45,178 Also, when you do different mechanical processes, 496 00:25:45,213 --> 00:25:46,850 they will illuminate. 497 00:25:47,215 --> 00:25:48,687 There is 498 00:25:48,722 --> 00:25:51,382 an actual scientific effect 499 00:25:51,417 --> 00:25:54,352 that creates light from rubbing quartz. 500 00:25:54,387 --> 00:25:55,991 And because we know 501 00:25:56,026 --> 00:25:58,862 that Alice has sand and shale underneath her home, 502 00:25:58,897 --> 00:26:01,062 there is quartz in sand and shale. 503 00:26:01,394 --> 00:26:03,933 So, could something be causing 504 00:26:03,968 --> 00:26:07,607 some of these light effects that Alice is seeing? 505 00:26:08,038 --> 00:26:11,105 What if something is affecting Alice's house 506 00:26:11,140 --> 00:26:14,339 momentarily because of charges in the ground 507 00:26:14,374 --> 00:26:15,879 that could be occurring? 508 00:26:17,982 --> 00:26:20,345 Having a geophysicist come do research here 509 00:26:20,380 --> 00:26:22,017 on the land is-- is huge. 510 00:26:22,756 --> 00:26:24,283 [Brad] I think it's very exciting anytime you have 511 00:26:24,318 --> 00:26:28,419 a person of science background that's willing to reach out 512 00:26:28,454 --> 00:26:30,388 to the paranormal side of things. 513 00:26:30,423 --> 00:26:31,895 You don't see that. 514 00:26:32,227 --> 00:26:33,864 I-- At least I haven't. 515 00:26:33,899 --> 00:26:35,932 I haven't seen much of that at all in this field. 516 00:26:35,967 --> 00:26:40,673 ♪ 517 00:26:41,269 --> 00:26:42,807 -Hey, Carolyn. -Hey. 518 00:26:42,842 --> 00:26:46,206 You said you had some information to share. 519 00:26:46,714 --> 00:26:48,747 This line we did 520 00:26:48,782 --> 00:26:52,146 that passed by the tree that the dog hit at. 521 00:26:52,181 --> 00:26:54,082 So, there's something else in the ground there. 522 00:26:54,117 --> 00:26:55,787 That is not soil, that is something. 523 00:26:55,822 --> 00:26:56,986 And it's not a tree root. 524 00:26:57,021 --> 00:26:58,790 It's too big to be a tree root. 525 00:26:58,825 --> 00:27:01,353 So, what you're saying basically is the electricity 526 00:27:01,388 --> 00:27:02,761 goes through the soil. 527 00:27:02,796 --> 00:27:04,290 -[Carolyn] Mm-hmm. -[Steve] And here 528 00:27:04,325 --> 00:27:06,292 it is not conducting 529 00:27:06,327 --> 00:27:08,294 because there is a void there. 530 00:27:08,901 --> 00:27:11,869 Yeah, it's having a hard-- it's having a harder time 531 00:27:11,904 --> 00:27:13,772 going through the soil. 532 00:27:13,807 --> 00:27:16,269 -[Steve] Wow. -I'll tell you something. 533 00:27:16,304 --> 00:27:19,943 This is extremely similar 534 00:27:19,978 --> 00:27:23,947 to when I did an old section of a cemetery 535 00:27:23,982 --> 00:27:26,477 and the body was no longer decomposing 536 00:27:26,512 --> 00:27:28,446 so there was no longer any signature of the body. 537 00:27:28,481 --> 00:27:31,889 But the fill that was above the body 538 00:27:31,924 --> 00:27:34,760 was still resistive enough to be shown, 539 00:27:34,795 --> 00:27:36,762 which is what we're exactly seeing here. 540 00:27:36,797 --> 00:27:39,765 And there's now fresh soil on top. 541 00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:41,833 So, that's a loose sort of fill, 542 00:27:41,868 --> 00:27:44,737 as if somebody had a shovel or something. 543 00:27:44,772 --> 00:27:46,134 [Carolyn] It would be. 544 00:27:46,169 --> 00:27:48,466 It would be, yeah, where somebody dug something 545 00:27:48,501 --> 00:27:49,874 and then filled the hole back up. 546 00:27:49,909 --> 00:27:51,744 There's something going on there. 547 00:27:51,779 --> 00:27:52,943 This is great. 548 00:27:52,978 --> 00:27:54,373 Thank you for all this hard work. 549 00:27:55,013 --> 00:27:57,211 I think we may have to dig there 550 00:27:57,246 --> 00:27:58,751 and just see what-- 551 00:27:58,786 --> 00:28:00,148 what is there. 552 00:28:00,183 --> 00:28:02,887 [wind whooshing] 553 00:28:05,551 --> 00:28:08,321 [night din] 554 00:28:13,262 --> 00:28:15,933 [owl hooting] 555 00:28:17,398 --> 00:28:19,805 [indistinct chatter] 556 00:28:20,808 --> 00:28:22,269 [Benton] Somebody what? 557 00:28:22,304 --> 00:28:27,340 ♪ 558 00:28:30,246 --> 00:28:31,377 [door slamming] 559 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:34,545 Copy that. Copy that. Can you get your camera up? 560 00:28:34,580 --> 00:28:36,151 -Yeah. -[Benton] Thank you. 561 00:28:39,860 --> 00:28:41,387 Can you po-- Can you start rolling? 562 00:28:41,422 --> 00:28:43,521 -[man] Yeah. -[Benton] Hey, Steve? 563 00:28:43,556 --> 00:28:48,559 ♪ 564 00:28:48,594 --> 00:28:50,935 [Benton] Yeah, we're comin' out front. 565 00:28:50,970 --> 00:28:56,006 ♪ 566 00:28:56,877 --> 00:28:59,779 [night din] 567 00:29:01,310 --> 00:29:03,244 Well-- wha-- what happened? Why-- why are you-- 568 00:29:03,279 --> 00:29:04,344 Okay. 569 00:29:05,281 --> 00:29:06,819 So. 570 00:29:07,921 --> 00:29:10,922 I was like, kind of looking over here the entire time. 571 00:29:11,452 --> 00:29:13,551 All of a sudden, 572 00:29:13,586 --> 00:29:16,257 out of-- out of nowhere, I just saw 573 00:29:16,292 --> 00:29:17,489 somebody. 574 00:29:17,524 --> 00:29:19,029 So if I'm standing over here. 575 00:29:19,064 --> 00:29:21,933 I'll show you exactly where the person walked. 576 00:29:23,629 --> 00:29:25,431 But they were definitely not heading into the tent. 577 00:29:25,466 --> 00:29:29,842 So, I expected to see somebody walk out the other side. 578 00:29:30,438 --> 00:29:32,273 And there is nobody over here. 579 00:29:32,308 --> 00:29:35,573 There's nobody here, nobody turned around. 580 00:29:35,608 --> 00:29:37,245 -Okay. -So, you were-- 581 00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:39,984 I'm just having a-- This is just too wild. 582 00:29:40,019 --> 00:29:41,282 Sorry. Yes. Okay. 583 00:29:41,317 --> 00:29:44,120 [Steve] So, during your, just research 584 00:29:44,155 --> 00:29:46,221 on your lines, 585 00:29:46,256 --> 00:29:49,191 you thought you saw somebody walking over here? 586 00:29:49,226 --> 00:29:50,995 And you came over and there's nobody here? 587 00:29:51,030 --> 00:29:53,294 And I just happened to see 588 00:29:53,329 --> 00:29:55,329 as I'm facing towards 589 00:29:55,364 --> 00:29:57,936 this area of the yard, 590 00:29:57,971 --> 00:30:00,301 I saw somebody walking, 591 00:30:00,336 --> 00:30:03,634 uh, toward-- I saw somebody walking towards the tent. 592 00:30:03,669 --> 00:30:06,637 I mean, I don't want to put any more sort of-- 593 00:30:06,672 --> 00:30:09,541 not fear, but I guess maybe anxiety 594 00:30:09,576 --> 00:30:12,016 into the situation for you. 595 00:30:12,051 --> 00:30:14,887 But there are many, many reports 596 00:30:14,922 --> 00:30:18,484 of an apparition being seen back here. 597 00:30:18,519 --> 00:30:20,090 Uh, the neighbor has claimed 598 00:30:20,125 --> 00:30:21,861 to see an apparition back here. 599 00:30:22,292 --> 00:30:25,227 We did have a psychic named, uh, Jill come here 600 00:30:25,262 --> 00:30:29,099 and she drew the image of a gentleman 601 00:30:29,134 --> 00:30:32,003 that she saw in the backyard here. 602 00:30:32,665 --> 00:30:36,238 Uh, so, the gentleman I saw, 603 00:30:36,273 --> 00:30:38,504 without like-- I-- the thing that drew me 604 00:30:38,539 --> 00:30:41,342 to seeing this person walking for just a brief second 605 00:30:41,377 --> 00:30:44,642 was the fact that he was wearing white. 606 00:30:44,677 --> 00:30:46,248 -But-- -[Steve] Carolyn came here 607 00:30:46,283 --> 00:30:48,954 as a total nonbeliever of the paranormal 608 00:30:48,989 --> 00:30:51,990 and had an experience that changed her mind. 609 00:30:52,025 --> 00:30:54,124 And she's honestly a little bit concerned 610 00:30:54,159 --> 00:30:55,961 that the science community 611 00:30:55,996 --> 00:30:58,128 is going to look down on her. 612 00:30:58,163 --> 00:30:59,690 They're going to raise their eyebrow. 613 00:30:59,725 --> 00:31:01,395 But, you know, that's scary for me 614 00:31:01,430 --> 00:31:04,937 because I wanted to completely explain 615 00:31:04,972 --> 00:31:07,203 a lot of the phenomena so I could tell Alice, like, 616 00:31:07,238 --> 00:31:09,700 what you're experiencing is actually A, B, C and D. 617 00:31:09,735 --> 00:31:12,670 But the geophysicist had an experience. 618 00:31:12,705 --> 00:31:16,080 Uh, we've had another person, Erin, 619 00:31:16,115 --> 00:31:19,215 who lived next door, grew up next door, 620 00:31:19,250 --> 00:31:21,349 who said she saw a full body apparition 621 00:31:21,384 --> 00:31:24,022 not only in the same location as the geophysicist 622 00:31:24,057 --> 00:31:28,026 but also the description was pretty close. 623 00:31:28,061 --> 00:31:30,259 A male in a white shirt. 624 00:31:30,294 --> 00:31:35,099 ♪ 625 00:31:35,134 --> 00:31:37,101 [Erin] The man I saw at the door, 626 00:31:37,136 --> 00:31:39,070 he seemed to be about my height. 627 00:31:39,105 --> 00:31:42,337 Very young. Early twenties. Late teens. 628 00:31:42,768 --> 00:31:45,274 He was wearing a white shirt and he had dark hair 629 00:31:45,309 --> 00:31:48,013 and it was slicked back and real strong eyes. 630 00:31:49,148 --> 00:31:53,018 I didn't feel like a presence or anything when I was here, 631 00:31:53,053 --> 00:31:56,219 cutting grass, it was completely sprung up on me. 632 00:31:57,750 --> 00:32:00,718 And he looked so real. 633 00:32:00,753 --> 00:32:02,390 He was looking this direction. 634 00:32:02,425 --> 00:32:05,096 And I came around the corner and he turned his head 635 00:32:05,131 --> 00:32:07,494 and looked right at me, and I looked at him. 636 00:32:08,101 --> 00:32:11,630 And his-- his eyes were so intense. 637 00:32:11,665 --> 00:32:14,534 It wasn't anything li-- the ghostly, 638 00:32:14,569 --> 00:32:18,505 fuzzy, foggy look that you think you see in movies and TV. 639 00:32:18,540 --> 00:32:22,113 He was completely solid. 640 00:32:24,084 --> 00:32:25,545 [John] Erin told us the story about 641 00:32:25,580 --> 00:32:28,152 seeing the full body apparition on the back land. 642 00:32:28,517 --> 00:32:30,616 Yes, I remember that because I was at work 643 00:32:30,651 --> 00:32:32,783 and she called me and I mean, you could tell she was-- 644 00:32:32,818 --> 00:32:35,225 she was so nervous, excited. 645 00:32:35,260 --> 00:32:37,326 And she told me, you know, such detail. 646 00:32:37,361 --> 00:32:38,723 I mean, there's things that I think 647 00:32:38,758 --> 00:32:40,098 draw us out there a lot, you know? 648 00:32:40,133 --> 00:32:42,034 Whether it's the door opening 649 00:32:42,069 --> 00:32:43,497 or the EVP, we got one time that said, 650 00:32:43,532 --> 00:32:45,235 "I'm in the woods." 651 00:32:48,273 --> 00:32:50,240 I think that we really should focus a lot 652 00:32:50,275 --> 00:32:52,077 on the uh-- on the backyard. 653 00:32:52,112 --> 00:32:53,672 And I think that's the heartbeat of what's going on. 654 00:32:53,707 --> 00:32:57,181 [wind whooshes] 655 00:33:07,424 --> 00:33:09,127 [knocking] 656 00:33:12,627 --> 00:33:14,132 -[Jill] Hello. -[Alice] Jill. 657 00:33:14,167 --> 00:33:15,496 -It's good to see you. -[Jill] Hey, 658 00:33:15,531 --> 00:33:16,695 good to see you too. 659 00:33:16,730 --> 00:33:19,071 I'm excited that, uh, Jill Morris, 660 00:33:19,106 --> 00:33:20,435 who came last time, 661 00:33:20,470 --> 00:33:23,405 is coming back because she did have a lot of 662 00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:27,178 accurate statements and intuitive things 663 00:33:27,213 --> 00:33:29,312 that were borne out by things that happened. 664 00:33:30,381 --> 00:33:34,119 There is a female that I'm not familiar with 665 00:33:34,154 --> 00:33:36,187 that has been coming here 666 00:33:36,222 --> 00:33:39,355 and she brings with her a lot of music. 667 00:33:39,390 --> 00:33:42,292 Does that mean anything to you? 668 00:33:42,327 --> 00:33:43,623 It does. 669 00:33:43,658 --> 00:33:46,857 And I kept hearing music 670 00:33:46,892 --> 00:33:49,266 that almost sounded like a music box. 671 00:33:49,301 --> 00:33:52,566 [chuckles] That's exactly what we hear. 672 00:33:52,601 --> 00:33:53,831 [Jill] She was standing-- 673 00:33:53,866 --> 00:33:55,866 like I was here and she was standing 674 00:33:55,901 --> 00:33:58,638 more towards the door, so whatever this area 675 00:33:58,673 --> 00:34:00,409 where the table is over there-- 676 00:34:00,444 --> 00:34:02,312 And she was just twirling around, 677 00:34:02,347 --> 00:34:04,446 pulling all of these beautiful lights in 678 00:34:04,481 --> 00:34:07,185 with this beautiful music playing in the background. 679 00:34:07,583 --> 00:34:10,254 What I did is the name Rich came up, 680 00:34:10,289 --> 00:34:12,784 then Richardson, and I'm like, "What does this mean?" 681 00:34:12,819 --> 00:34:16,392 There is a waltz that goes back to the state of South Carolina. 682 00:34:16,856 --> 00:34:18,460 Does-- do you have any community-- 683 00:34:18,495 --> 00:34:20,231 Anything to do with South Carolina? 684 00:34:20,497 --> 00:34:22,365 Yes, that's where they're from. 685 00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:25,467 We have a genealogy book that traces the family back-- 686 00:34:25,502 --> 00:34:28,107 [Jill] This, for crying out loud. 687 00:34:30,309 --> 00:34:33,640 Then we have this spirit. 688 00:34:34,742 --> 00:34:37,281 And I call him the Reverend. 689 00:34:37,316 --> 00:34:40,185 I wouldn't say he was evil by any means. 690 00:34:40,220 --> 00:34:41,912 He's just a dark person. 691 00:34:41,947 --> 00:34:45,850 He just seemed to be when he was alive, 692 00:34:45,885 --> 00:34:47,621 which carries over... 693 00:34:49,493 --> 00:34:50,558 angry. 694 00:34:52,265 --> 00:34:55,266 They were-- this area, this land may have been his 695 00:34:55,301 --> 00:34:58,632 or he had something to do with this land at one time. 696 00:34:58,667 --> 00:34:59,897 I'm just going to say it. 697 00:34:59,932 --> 00:35:01,503 It's almost like, don't find out about me. 698 00:35:01,538 --> 00:35:03,802 Like, it's because it's an exposure. 699 00:35:04,343 --> 00:35:06,178 He was not a nice person and I do think 700 00:35:06,213 --> 00:35:09,742 he had a hand in what happened in the backyard. 701 00:35:10,679 --> 00:35:11,843 Okay. 702 00:35:11,878 --> 00:35:14,186 [birds chirping] 703 00:35:17,422 --> 00:35:20,423 So, this is the general area. 704 00:35:21,690 --> 00:35:23,162 Just going to be honest. 705 00:35:24,264 --> 00:35:26,561 He was taken here. I think he was hung here. 706 00:35:28,433 --> 00:35:30,730 There was a debt to be paid 707 00:35:30,765 --> 00:35:33,799 and he-- he was killed. 708 00:35:33,834 --> 00:35:35,702 It's not that he stole something. 709 00:35:36,309 --> 00:35:39,673 And that's kind of what his message is right now 710 00:35:39,708 --> 00:35:41,510 speaking with you, 711 00:35:41,545 --> 00:35:44,414 is to know he's not going to disrespect you. 712 00:35:44,449 --> 00:35:47,615 It's-- he wants people to understand he was a good man. 713 00:35:48,585 --> 00:35:50,486 But I think the reason he is really strong here 714 00:35:50,521 --> 00:35:52,983 is because this is where he passed. 715 00:35:53,018 --> 00:35:54,457 That's my opinion. 716 00:35:55,559 --> 00:35:57,592 But he tends to hang out here. 717 00:35:58,727 --> 00:36:01,299 [Steve] You know, I don't work with psychics, 718 00:36:01,334 --> 00:36:02,729 you know, that much. 719 00:36:02,764 --> 00:36:05,765 But my job here is to service the investigation, 720 00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:08,702 to service what Alice wants, to facilitate that. 721 00:36:08,737 --> 00:36:11,705 So if the team wants another psychic here, 722 00:36:11,740 --> 00:36:13,740 you know, we're going to bring one in for them. 723 00:36:13,775 --> 00:36:15,577 And I thought it was important to make sure 724 00:36:15,612 --> 00:36:17,645 that is a psychic who has never been 725 00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:19,218 to the house before. 726 00:36:19,748 --> 00:36:21,352 [knocking] 727 00:36:27,954 --> 00:36:29,360 -[Alice] Oh. Hello. -[Sam] Hello. 728 00:36:29,395 --> 00:36:30,724 -How are you? I'm Alice. -Hey, I'm Sam. 729 00:36:30,759 --> 00:36:32,528 -Nice to meet you. -Hey, nice to meet you. 730 00:36:32,563 --> 00:36:33,628 Come in. 731 00:36:33,663 --> 00:36:37,863 ♪ 732 00:36:37,898 --> 00:36:40,404 So, here we are. 733 00:36:40,439 --> 00:36:41,933 Yeah, so, I'll tell you, like, I-- 734 00:36:41,968 --> 00:36:43,473 Like, as soon as I came on the property, 735 00:36:43,508 --> 00:36:47,378 I definitely started having anxiety issues. 736 00:36:47,413 --> 00:36:49,479 So when it comes to my abilities 737 00:36:49,514 --> 00:36:52,383 as a clairvoyant and as a light of trance medium, 738 00:36:52,418 --> 00:36:55,452 I've learned to kind of separate my emotions 739 00:36:55,487 --> 00:36:56,915 from the emotions of the spirits 740 00:36:56,950 --> 00:36:58,455 that I'm communicating with. 741 00:36:59,359 --> 00:37:00,853 So, I came in with my guard up. 742 00:37:00,888 --> 00:37:03,592 I-- I did feel not welcomed 743 00:37:03,627 --> 00:37:05,495 when I first walked up to the property. 744 00:37:05,530 --> 00:37:07,431 So, I was feeling sort of the-- 745 00:37:07,466 --> 00:37:09,565 the energy, the chaos. 746 00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:12,568 So, what I've been picking up on for the past few days 747 00:37:12,603 --> 00:37:14,636 is there's an older gentleman, 748 00:37:14,671 --> 00:37:17,474 uh, who wants to communicate. 749 00:37:17,509 --> 00:37:20,873 And he definitely is the type of person that, 750 00:37:20,908 --> 00:37:23,315 uh, very cranky. 751 00:37:23,350 --> 00:37:26,912 So when I was coming in, he was like, 752 00:37:26,947 --> 00:37:28,881 basically telling me to get out. 753 00:37:28,916 --> 00:37:30,355 [Sam] Uh, and-- like, 754 00:37:30,390 --> 00:37:31,653 [Southern accent] "This is my land. 755 00:37:31,688 --> 00:37:33,083 This is my land!" 756 00:37:33,118 --> 00:37:34,722 And, um, 757 00:37:34,757 --> 00:37:36,856 I think that we're going to see on the property 758 00:37:36,891 --> 00:37:39,056 that there is definitely, uh, 759 00:37:39,091 --> 00:37:41,663 signs that he was on the property. 760 00:37:41,698 --> 00:37:44,435 This was not his house. His house was out back. 761 00:37:44,470 --> 00:37:47,537 Now he has stuff in the back there-- 762 00:37:47,572 --> 00:37:48,967 He has secrets in the back. 763 00:37:49,541 --> 00:37:51,673 Um, and I hope that we can 764 00:37:51,708 --> 00:37:53,576 maybe uncover those secrets. 765 00:37:53,908 --> 00:37:55,710 But he's hiding something. 766 00:37:55,745 --> 00:37:56,909 Whoa. 767 00:37:59,716 --> 00:38:01,419 Well, I can see if-- if anybody 768 00:38:01,454 --> 00:38:03,080 has tried to stay in this room, 769 00:38:03,115 --> 00:38:04,719 like, why they wouldn't want to stay here. 770 00:38:04,754 --> 00:38:06,820 All right. I'm going to go there. 771 00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:09,559 Okay. 772 00:38:11,959 --> 00:38:13,728 Okay. [sighs] 773 00:38:16,799 --> 00:38:18,865 All right. What do you want from Alice? 774 00:38:18,900 --> 00:38:23,936 [tense music] 775 00:38:26,644 --> 00:38:28,776 All right, I'm seeing, um-- 776 00:38:32,815 --> 00:38:36,883 He wants you to dig. Uh, dig out in the back. 777 00:38:37,655 --> 00:38:40,755 Okay, um, he's showing me that he wants you to dig. 778 00:38:41,153 --> 00:38:42,988 Um, you-- there's something hidden down there. 779 00:38:43,023 --> 00:38:44,088 I'm getting chills. 780 00:38:44,123 --> 00:38:45,463 My back and my neck 781 00:38:45,498 --> 00:38:47,696 is being touched right now. 782 00:38:48,061 --> 00:38:49,500 Um. 783 00:38:50,129 --> 00:38:52,536 Well, when I was connecting with the spirit 784 00:38:52,571 --> 00:38:54,439 of the older man, he kept saying, 785 00:38:54,474 --> 00:38:56,441 "Dig, dig, dig." 786 00:38:59,479 --> 00:39:01,809 All right, sir, so I want you to tell me where to dig. 787 00:39:02,515 --> 00:39:03,844 Give me a sign. 788 00:39:07,784 --> 00:39:10,048 All right, can you show me where-- 789 00:39:10,083 --> 00:39:11,753 Uh, where you want to dig? 790 00:39:11,788 --> 00:39:13,788 I guess give me some animal indication 791 00:39:13,823 --> 00:39:15,526 or some sort. 792 00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:18,661 All right. So I'm going to keep walking. 793 00:39:18,696 --> 00:39:20,531 [Alice] Okay, that's interesting. 794 00:39:20,566 --> 00:39:25,602 ♪ 795 00:39:27,936 --> 00:39:29,903 All right, so I'm gett-- I'm getting-- [chuckles] 796 00:39:29,938 --> 00:39:32,906 I'm getting a flashback to someone getting, 797 00:39:32,941 --> 00:39:34,446 like, an attack over here. 798 00:39:34,481 --> 00:39:35,909 So there was some kind of-- 799 00:39:35,944 --> 00:39:39,011 [birds chirping] 800 00:39:39,046 --> 00:39:44,082 ♪ 801 00:39:44,557 --> 00:39:46,150 All right, so just so you-- I mean, 802 00:39:46,185 --> 00:39:47,558 I'm going-- I'm just going to go there. 803 00:39:47,593 --> 00:39:48,922 -[Alice] Yeah. -Okay. 804 00:39:48,957 --> 00:39:52,761 Um, so there was definitely tensions going on. 805 00:39:52,796 --> 00:39:54,631 Um, I think that there was-- 806 00:39:54,666 --> 00:39:58,129 there was an attack, maybe even, uh, something 807 00:39:58,164 --> 00:39:59,801 like a lynching of some sort 808 00:39:59,836 --> 00:40:01,638 that could have happened back here too. 809 00:40:01,673 --> 00:40:03,673 [animals screeching in distance] 810 00:40:03,708 --> 00:40:05,202 The animals responding to me is-- 811 00:40:05,237 --> 00:40:06,577 means that that's the truth. 812 00:40:06,612 --> 00:40:09,712 [screeching continues] 813 00:40:16,886 --> 00:40:18,754 -[Jill] Jill. -[Sam] Nice to meet you, Sam. 814 00:40:18,789 --> 00:40:20,591 [Jill] It's nice to meet you, Sam. 815 00:40:22,628 --> 00:40:24,254 So, you've had a chance to kind of 816 00:40:24,289 --> 00:40:26,091 get your own vibe, what's going on? 817 00:40:26,126 --> 00:40:28,698 I feel like that the land is stained with blood. 818 00:40:28,733 --> 00:40:30,095 There's something out there 819 00:40:30,130 --> 00:40:31,767 that we should probably investigate. 820 00:40:32,198 --> 00:40:33,835 I am hearing 821 00:40:33,870 --> 00:40:36,574 a really super pitch high frequency. 822 00:40:36,609 --> 00:40:38,609 -Oh, me too. Yeah. -[Jill] Okay. 823 00:40:38,644 --> 00:40:40,644 [Jill] So, have you ever heard that before? 824 00:40:40,679 --> 00:40:43,614 I know you said static and I've heard that here before. 825 00:40:43,649 --> 00:40:45,110 Yeah, I heard-- when you said you heard it 826 00:40:45,145 --> 00:40:47,178 in that back room, I did, too. 827 00:40:47,213 --> 00:40:48,784 [Jill] You want to go check it out? 828 00:40:48,819 --> 00:40:50,280 -Yeah. -[Jill] Be careful 829 00:40:50,315 --> 00:40:52,755 because this is new for me. 830 00:40:53,758 --> 00:40:56,154 And see, it picks up in here. 831 00:40:56,189 --> 00:40:57,254 [Sam] Yep. 832 00:40:57,289 --> 00:40:59,531 [Jill] Okay. So, this is new. 833 00:41:01,161 --> 00:41:03,634 And I was trying to get my bearings. 834 00:41:04,868 --> 00:41:06,604 It does seem over the bed. 835 00:41:06,639 --> 00:41:08,540 -Yeah, it's over here. -[Jill] It's over the be-- 836 00:41:08,575 --> 00:41:10,234 It's like super loud over here. 837 00:41:10,269 --> 00:41:11,301 Over there. Yeah. 838 00:41:11,336 --> 00:41:12,610 I will say this thing 839 00:41:12,645 --> 00:41:14,007 wants to attach to one of us. 840 00:41:14,042 --> 00:41:15,580 There is a male 841 00:41:15,615 --> 00:41:16,878 and that's what he is trying to do. 842 00:41:16,913 --> 00:41:19,551 And it's odd you say that because I get it 843 00:41:19,586 --> 00:41:21,619 right outside the house, 844 00:41:21,654 --> 00:41:23,753 whereas the last time I was here, 845 00:41:23,788 --> 00:41:26,624 he was in the house and he was very unpleasant. 846 00:41:26,659 --> 00:41:28,318 [Sam] Right. Was he the murderer? 847 00:41:28,353 --> 00:41:29,891 Do you think that he's the one-- 848 00:41:29,926 --> 00:41:31,728 [Jill] I think he had something to do with it. 849 00:41:31,763 --> 00:41:34,060 And it's spending, what, a couple hours out in the back. 850 00:41:35,294 --> 00:41:37,195 It really gave me 851 00:41:37,230 --> 00:41:39,703 a good chance to pick up on-- 852 00:41:39,738 --> 00:41:43,300 there is a spirit of an enslaved person. 853 00:41:43,335 --> 00:41:44,873 Oh, my gosh. Okay, you're right. 854 00:41:44,908 --> 00:41:46,644 That's what I was picking up too. 855 00:41:46,679 --> 00:41:47,909 [Jill] So it is something-- 856 00:41:47,944 --> 00:41:49,174 [Steve] You actually said lynching. 857 00:41:49,209 --> 00:41:50,714 -[Sam] Yeah. -Yeah. 858 00:41:50,749 --> 00:41:52,342 And that's-- that's what I picked up on. 859 00:41:52,377 --> 00:41:54,113 And there's a-- I'll show you that. 860 00:41:54,148 --> 00:41:55,653 You got-- You did? [gasps] 861 00:41:55,688 --> 00:41:57,182 Okay, this is giving me chills. 862 00:41:57,217 --> 00:41:58,689 [Jill] Yeah. 863 00:41:59,791 --> 00:42:01,021 -Are you okay? -Yeah. 864 00:42:03,058 --> 00:42:04,123 Yeah. 865 00:42:08,228 --> 00:42:09,634 [Jill] Do you want to take a moment? 866 00:42:09,669 --> 00:42:11,834 Yeah. Oh, I'm sorry. 867 00:42:13,772 --> 00:42:15,904 I just-- I sort of trusted myself 868 00:42:15,939 --> 00:42:17,807 because I did see that, but I was just like, 869 00:42:17,842 --> 00:42:20,073 I didn't want to go there, you know? 870 00:42:20,108 --> 00:42:21,173 Because it's so horrific. 871 00:42:21,208 --> 00:42:22,207 Like, who would do that 872 00:42:22,242 --> 00:42:23,648 to somebody else, you know? 873 00:42:24,915 --> 00:42:28,950 Working with Jill on this collaboration 874 00:42:28,985 --> 00:42:30,688 was awesome for me 875 00:42:30,723 --> 00:42:33,625 because I was able to get a confirmation 876 00:42:33,660 --> 00:42:34,989 for the things that I was picking up. 877 00:42:35,794 --> 00:42:38,993 He-- he is-- his spirit is very grateful. 878 00:42:39,666 --> 00:42:41,094 So just know that. 879 00:42:41,129 --> 00:42:44,328 [Sam] And I-- I want him to know and I want-- 880 00:42:44,363 --> 00:42:46,836 I want you to know that 881 00:42:46,871 --> 00:42:49,839 his story has been heard 882 00:42:49,874 --> 00:42:53,304 and he's no longer a man without a voice. 883 00:42:53,339 --> 00:42:55,812 He now has a voice and he can speak freely 884 00:42:55,847 --> 00:42:58,749 and hopefully he can move on to Heaven. 885 00:43:01,754 --> 00:43:03,347 -This is good, Alice. -[Jill] Yeah, yeah, 886 00:43:03,382 --> 00:43:06,658 it feels so whole... wholesome. 887 00:43:08,123 --> 00:43:10,387 -Healing? -[Sam] Healing, that's it. 888 00:43:10,422 --> 00:43:13,896 [night din] 889 00:43:17,231 --> 00:43:20,067 [digital whining] 890 00:43:24,304 --> 00:43:25,842 [Amy] I wanna do the full spectrum. 891 00:43:25,877 --> 00:43:27,910 -[John] Yup. -[Amy] I'm gonna go in there? 892 00:43:28,781 --> 00:43:30,011 Oh, my God. 893 00:43:30,046 --> 00:43:32,178 -Where? -[John] Just on that chair. 894 00:43:33,313 --> 00:43:34,752 And then just do some-- 895 00:43:34,787 --> 00:43:35,918 just ask a question, see if you can 896 00:43:35,953 --> 00:43:37,315 get the [indistinct] to go off. 897 00:43:37,922 --> 00:43:40,824 [Amy] So, my name's Amy. And you know me. 898 00:43:40,859 --> 00:43:42,991 I've been coming to this house for years. 899 00:43:43,026 --> 00:43:44,993 [beeping] 900 00:43:47,228 --> 00:43:49,261 Hi. [sighs] 901 00:43:49,296 --> 00:43:50,735 [under breath] Oh, my God. 902 00:43:52,332 --> 00:43:53,870 Can you do that again? 903 00:43:56,435 --> 00:43:58,006 You know I don't like this room. 904 00:43:59,812 --> 00:44:00,943 [Brad] What's that noise? 905 00:44:00,978 --> 00:44:02,439 [John] Sounds like [indistinct]. 906 00:44:02,474 --> 00:44:03,979 [Brad] Which one? 907 00:44:05,510 --> 00:44:06,784 It's this one. 908 00:44:06,819 --> 00:44:10,150 [faint beeping] 909 00:44:13,419 --> 00:44:17,058 [Amy] Are you the spirit who made 910 00:44:17,093 --> 00:44:19,192 all that light 911 00:44:19,227 --> 00:44:21,898 happen with Alice 912 00:44:21,933 --> 00:44:23,801 when she was in this room? 913 00:44:26,465 --> 00:44:28,938 -[beeping] -[John] Put this one there. 914 00:44:30,205 --> 00:44:33,239 I know it's a lot we're asking of you 915 00:44:33,274 --> 00:44:35,472 and it takes a lot of energy 916 00:44:35,507 --> 00:44:37,078 to be able to communicate. 917 00:44:37,784 --> 00:44:40,114 But I really want you to try really hard. 918 00:44:40,149 --> 00:44:43,722 [low tense music] 919 00:44:45,858 --> 00:44:47,385 All right. We're going to walk out. 920 00:44:47,420 --> 00:44:52,830 ♪ 921 00:44:54,064 --> 00:44:55,360 [beeping] 922 00:44:55,395 --> 00:45:00,772 ♪ 923 00:45:04,140 --> 00:45:06,811 So, Alice is here with us tonight. 924 00:45:06,846 --> 00:45:10,210 And I know y'all really like having Alice come in. 925 00:45:14,887 --> 00:45:16,920 Can you all do something to show 926 00:45:16,955 --> 00:45:18,823 that you're happy Alice is here? 927 00:45:23,291 --> 00:45:25,863 What we want to do tonight is engage with you 928 00:45:25,898 --> 00:45:28,294 and understand who you are, what your name is 929 00:45:28,329 --> 00:45:30,934 and why you're attached to the house and the property. 930 00:45:30,969 --> 00:45:33,838 ♪ 931 00:45:33,873 --> 00:45:37,908 [metallic rustling] 932 00:45:37,943 --> 00:45:41,879 Is anyone here a victim of the fire? 933 00:45:47,315 --> 00:45:49,788 [Sabrina] Are you buried on this property? 934 00:45:50,923 --> 00:45:53,121 [Brad] Do you remember the fire in this town? 935 00:45:55,895 --> 00:45:57,488 Do you understand that this house, 936 00:45:57,523 --> 00:45:58,929 this-- this property, 937 00:45:58,964 --> 00:46:00,425 where we're standing at right now, 938 00:46:00,460 --> 00:46:02,262 this is Alice's home. 939 00:46:03,969 --> 00:46:05,837 You're not supposed to be here. 940 00:46:05,872 --> 00:46:08,301 [quiet rattling] 941 00:46:08,908 --> 00:46:10,237 [blipping] 942 00:46:12,604 --> 00:46:14,373 -What was that? -Did-- What happened? 943 00:46:14,408 --> 00:46:15,572 Did the light dim? 944 00:46:15,607 --> 00:46:17,211 I mean, something dimmed. 945 00:46:18,148 --> 00:46:21,050 Oh, I just thought something dimmed. 946 00:46:21,085 --> 00:46:22,480 I thought the room dimmed. 947 00:46:22,515 --> 00:46:27,892 [tense music] 948 00:46:29,093 --> 00:46:31,159 [John] Alice, they know your voice better than anybody. 949 00:46:31,194 --> 00:46:33,524 So, any-- any, anything you have. 950 00:46:33,559 --> 00:46:35,064 Ask. Just-- 951 00:46:36,232 --> 00:46:38,331 Okay, is there anybody here 952 00:46:38,366 --> 00:46:40,168 who's never been here before? 953 00:46:42,568 --> 00:46:44,975 Can you speak so that we can hear you? 954 00:46:47,947 --> 00:46:50,343 -[strong blipping] -[Brad] There you go. Ooh! 955 00:46:53,986 --> 00:46:55,447 [Brad] That's pretty interesting. 956 00:46:56,252 --> 00:46:57,482 [John] Yeah? 957 00:46:57,517 --> 00:46:58,890 [Brad] That was a pretty big hit, too. 958 00:46:58,925 --> 00:47:00,892 Three of the lights lit up. 959 00:47:02,621 --> 00:47:04,962 We appreciate any form of communication 960 00:47:04,997 --> 00:47:06,590 -that you do. -[strong blipping]. 961 00:47:06,625 --> 00:47:08,163 -Like that. -[Brad] That's crazy. 962 00:47:11,234 --> 00:47:14,169 We're trying to uncover who you are... 963 00:47:15,469 --> 00:47:17,007 and how we can help you. 964 00:47:17,669 --> 00:47:18,943 [Sabrina] So weird. 965 00:47:18,978 --> 00:47:22,408 [eerie instrumental] 966 00:47:25,017 --> 00:47:26,511 [Amy] Should probably all sit down. 967 00:47:26,546 --> 00:47:28,018 [John] Alice. 968 00:47:29,450 --> 00:47:32,121 [Brad] And it's interesting that it's not going off 969 00:47:32,156 --> 00:47:33,892 now with Amy right next to it. 970 00:47:35,962 --> 00:47:37,225 [John] Walk over there again. 971 00:47:43,101 --> 00:47:44,595 Walk towards the back door, Amy. 972 00:47:44,630 --> 00:47:46,201 [Amy quietly] Okay. 973 00:47:47,006 --> 00:47:48,269 [John] You want her to go outside? 974 00:47:48,304 --> 00:47:49,699 -If you want her to go outsi-- -[beeping] 975 00:47:49,734 --> 00:47:51,008 -[Sabrina] Oh, look. -[Brad] Look how 976 00:47:51,043 --> 00:47:52,273 far away she is. 977 00:47:53,507 --> 00:47:55,210 Look how far away she is. 978 00:47:55,245 --> 00:47:56,508 [Sabrina] 'Kay, that's weird. 979 00:47:58,281 --> 00:48:01,315 [door creaking] 980 00:48:03,385 --> 00:48:07,090 [night din] 981 00:48:07,125 --> 00:48:08,685 All right, let's-- let's-- let's transition. 982 00:48:08,720 --> 00:48:10,225 Let's leave this here. 983 00:48:10,260 --> 00:48:11,655 Let's leave this room pot here in this chair, 984 00:48:11,690 --> 00:48:13,096 and we'll take the full spectrum camera. 985 00:48:13,131 --> 00:48:15,065 And we'll sit out in the backyard. 986 00:48:21,601 --> 00:48:24,569 [night din] 987 00:48:24,604 --> 00:48:29,981 ♪ 988 00:48:34,548 --> 00:48:37,351 [Brad] That's a very old tree. 989 00:48:40,356 --> 00:48:42,092 [Alice] It is. I thought I was... 990 00:48:43,458 --> 00:48:45,326 [indistinct] 991 00:48:45,361 --> 00:48:46,426 Right there. 992 00:48:47,033 --> 00:48:49,165 [strong blipping] 993 00:48:51,136 --> 00:48:52,432 [John] We're trying to figure out 994 00:48:52,467 --> 00:48:56,370 if there is a body buried in the ground-- 995 00:48:56,405 --> 00:48:57,668 [bird squawks] 996 00:48:57,703 --> 00:49:01,507 [night din] 997 00:49:11,783 --> 00:49:14,091 If you're buried here on the property, 998 00:49:14,126 --> 00:49:16,489 can you come up to this device 999 00:49:16,524 --> 00:49:18,029 and make it light up? 1000 00:49:19,725 --> 00:49:21,395 [Sabrina] Why is that cat digging? 1001 00:49:26,501 --> 00:49:27,533 It's interesting. 1002 00:49:31,077 --> 00:49:33,374 All right, y'all, let's wrap it up 1003 00:49:33,409 --> 00:49:35,442 and let's head back into the house. 1004 00:49:38,777 --> 00:49:40,579 That does not include the kitty cat. 1005 00:49:41,549 --> 00:49:43,318 [Brad] No, cats stay here. 1006 00:49:45,817 --> 00:49:47,421 [Alice] Sure that cat's not hungry. 1007 00:49:47,456 --> 00:49:48,653 [Amy chuckles] Yeah. 1008 00:49:48,688 --> 00:49:53,559 ♪ 1009 00:49:54,628 --> 00:49:58,399 [Steve] So, guys, all of these red flags, right? 1010 00:49:58,434 --> 00:50:01,369 That red flag, the red flags, see 'em? 1011 00:50:02,669 --> 00:50:04,669 Those are all spots that 1012 00:50:04,704 --> 00:50:06,770 the ground-penetrating radar 1013 00:50:06,805 --> 00:50:08,640 detected that there could be 1014 00:50:08,675 --> 00:50:11,280 individual bodies or burials. 1015 00:50:11,315 --> 00:50:13,150 -Really? -Yeah. Yep. 1016 00:50:13,185 --> 00:50:16,813 Um, and even there, that red flag right there. 1017 00:50:16,848 --> 00:50:18,716 Now, the geophysicist 1018 00:50:18,751 --> 00:50:21,158 found spots right here. 1019 00:50:21,193 --> 00:50:24,095 She said that there could be a body. 1020 00:50:24,130 --> 00:50:26,328 -[Alice] Oh, my goodness. -Right here. 1021 00:50:26,363 --> 00:50:27,461 So-- 1022 00:50:28,530 --> 00:50:30,101 Just when it hits me, 1023 00:50:30,136 --> 00:50:31,465 the bodies is the most intriguing thing to me. 1024 00:50:31,500 --> 00:50:33,797 But it's-- so it's crazy, so you're telling me that 1025 00:50:33,832 --> 00:50:36,569 each red flag is a potential body? 1026 00:50:36,604 --> 00:50:38,175 Yeah. Yeah. 1027 00:50:38,474 --> 00:50:41,145 We had a geophysicist come here 1028 00:50:41,180 --> 00:50:43,114 and she marked some places that she thought 1029 00:50:43,149 --> 00:50:45,248 were possible burial sites. 1030 00:50:45,283 --> 00:50:47,250 We had ground-penetrating radar come 1031 00:50:47,285 --> 00:50:49,318 and he marked places that he thought 1032 00:50:49,353 --> 00:50:52,222 were possible unmarked graves. 1033 00:50:52,257 --> 00:50:54,422 You know, doing research with Mary Alice, 1034 00:50:54,457 --> 00:50:57,557 it does seem that this property could have been 1035 00:50:57,592 --> 00:50:59,856 part of all of these properties, honestly, 1036 00:50:59,891 --> 00:51:02,793 part of the original graveyard. 1037 00:51:02,828 --> 00:51:05,730 And that everything else was moved 1038 00:51:05,765 --> 00:51:08,271 but they just left the bodies. 1039 00:51:08,306 --> 00:51:10,405 You know, that-- that is a possible scenario. 1040 00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:12,671 So I wanted to see if Alice and the team 1041 00:51:12,706 --> 00:51:14,211 wanted to dig there. 1042 00:51:14,246 --> 00:51:15,707 And that, ethically, you know, 1043 00:51:15,742 --> 00:51:17,544 that's a bit of a gray area. 1044 00:51:17,579 --> 00:51:19,183 You know, should you shouldn't you? 1045 00:51:19,218 --> 00:51:20,844 But I thought it would be important 1046 00:51:20,879 --> 00:51:22,615 for a few different reasons. 1047 00:51:22,650 --> 00:51:25,321 One, if we found something, we could offer proper burial. 1048 00:51:25,356 --> 00:51:28,687 We could do things that could possibly get Alice 1049 00:51:28,722 --> 00:51:31,525 to feel better in terms of the phenomena happening here. 1050 00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:33,890 And maybe show Alice that it is something 1051 00:51:33,925 --> 00:51:36,695 that is human in nature, that it could have been 1052 00:51:36,730 --> 00:51:38,268 a person that was once alive. 1053 00:51:38,303 --> 00:51:40,501 And it's not as scary as it could be 1054 00:51:40,536 --> 00:51:43,273 if it was something that she couldn't put a face to. 1055 00:51:43,308 --> 00:51:45,539 If we did find any bodies 1056 00:51:45,574 --> 00:51:48,245 or any remnants of an old foundation or anything, 1057 00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:50,577 that there was a structure there at one point, 1058 00:51:50,612 --> 00:51:53,283 it would make her feel a little bit better. 1059 00:51:53,318 --> 00:51:55,615 If it's bodies that's more modern. 1060 00:51:55,650 --> 00:51:58,816 There's a chance there may be buried with personal items... 1061 00:51:59,654 --> 00:52:01,951 and a metal detector could possibly pick up 1062 00:52:01,986 --> 00:52:04,294 buttons or rings. 1063 00:52:04,329 --> 00:52:06,230 -It's just an idea. -[Steve] No, it's a good idea. 1064 00:52:06,265 --> 00:52:07,495 Actually, that's a great idea. 1065 00:52:07,530 --> 00:52:10,795 Because if you do find artifacts, right? 1066 00:52:10,830 --> 00:52:12,830 Like anything that looks like it belonged to a family... 1067 00:52:13,437 --> 00:52:16,471 we can use those items as trigger objects. 1068 00:52:16,836 --> 00:52:19,243 Here's what we need to do is get the excavator over here 1069 00:52:19,278 --> 00:52:21,542 so we can start getting it into the ground. 1070 00:52:21,577 --> 00:52:23,709 And Alice, I can probably use your metal detector. 1071 00:52:23,744 --> 00:52:25,249 Yeah, you can. I still have it. 1072 00:52:25,284 --> 00:52:26,514 [Brad] Okay. Beautiful. 1073 00:52:26,549 --> 00:52:28,582 Brad, we'll get you metal detecting 1074 00:52:28,617 --> 00:52:31,420 and I'll go get shovels and gloves. 1075 00:52:31,455 --> 00:52:33,587 -[Brad] Let's get it! -Yeah. Let-- let's get started. 1076 00:52:33,622 --> 00:52:35,490 [whirring] 1077 00:52:35,525 --> 00:52:38,328 [upbeat strings & piano instrumental] 1078 00:52:39,925 --> 00:52:42,464 [Brad] I Just think there's no other location in the world 1079 00:52:42,499 --> 00:52:44,466 that investigates this hard, man. 1080 00:52:44,501 --> 00:52:49,537 ♪ 1081 00:52:56,876 --> 00:52:58,216 [Alice] Ah. 1082 00:52:58,482 --> 00:53:00,548 Hold on tight. All right. 1083 00:53:00,583 --> 00:53:05,619 ♪ 1084 00:53:14,025 --> 00:53:17,697 [beeping] 1085 00:53:17,732 --> 00:53:22,768 ♪ 1086 00:53:26,378 --> 00:53:29,874 [Alice speaking indistinctly] 1087 00:53:29,909 --> 00:53:35,319 ♪ 1088 00:53:38,390 --> 00:53:41,952 Even though I've lost the house to my personal use, 1089 00:53:41,987 --> 00:53:43,591 I do feel like I've done the right thing 1090 00:53:43,626 --> 00:53:45,890 by just opening it up to investigators. 1091 00:53:45,925 --> 00:53:47,661 I feel like at least, you know, someone's getting 1092 00:53:47,696 --> 00:53:50,334 some benefit out of it, which will be justified 1093 00:53:50,369 --> 00:53:52,028 in that something really will be found. 1094 00:53:52,063 --> 00:53:54,470 [street din] 1095 00:54:01,380 --> 00:54:03,545 [eerie music playing] 1096 00:54:03,580 --> 00:54:08,616 ♪ 1097 00:54:09,850 --> 00:54:11,289 Hey, buddy. 1098 00:54:11,819 --> 00:54:13,720 -What's up, man? -Hey, man. 1099 00:54:13,755 --> 00:54:14,985 [Dustin] How's it going? 1100 00:54:15,020 --> 00:54:16,921 I've known Dustin for many, many years. 1101 00:54:16,956 --> 00:54:20,364 And he's a great investigator. He's a good friend. 1102 00:54:20,399 --> 00:54:22,894 He's one of the most kind people 1103 00:54:22,929 --> 00:54:25,534 I've ever met and worked with. 1104 00:54:25,569 --> 00:54:27,668 I'm Dustin Perry. I'm a paranormal researcher. 1105 00:54:27,703 --> 00:54:30,605 I've been investigating for about 24 years. 1106 00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:32,002 I've traveled internationally. 1107 00:54:32,037 --> 00:54:33,872 I've had opportunity to investigate 1108 00:54:33,907 --> 00:54:35,676 in 27 different countries. 1109 00:54:35,711 --> 00:54:38,877 The first impression of arriving at Alice's house 1110 00:54:38,912 --> 00:54:41,011 is it's very unassuming. 1111 00:54:41,046 --> 00:54:42,617 But I've learned over the years, 1112 00:54:42,652 --> 00:54:45,521 the places that look very unassuming often have 1113 00:54:45,556 --> 00:54:47,083 some interesting activity going on. 1114 00:54:47,118 --> 00:54:48,623 -[Steve] Dustin Perry. -[Dustin] Hey Alice. 1115 00:54:48,658 --> 00:54:50,394 -How are you? -[Alice] Hey! How are you? 1116 00:54:50,429 --> 00:54:51,758 [Dustin] I'm very well. I like to hug people. 1117 00:54:51,793 --> 00:54:53,694 Yeah, well this-- yeah this is Mississippi. 1118 00:54:53,729 --> 00:54:55,124 -We do too. -[Dustin] Alice's house 1119 00:54:55,159 --> 00:54:56,928 is very unique in the fact that 1120 00:54:56,963 --> 00:54:58,567 there's no other place like it 1121 00:54:58,602 --> 00:55:01,097 in terms of the amount of time 1122 00:55:01,132 --> 00:55:03,000 it's been allowed to be investigated. 1123 00:55:03,035 --> 00:55:05,772 For me, the paranormal is really a spiritual journey. 1124 00:55:05,807 --> 00:55:07,708 However, I try to look at things scientifically 1125 00:55:07,743 --> 00:55:10,513 to disprove and also to offer evidence 1126 00:55:10,548 --> 00:55:11,976 so people can understand. 1127 00:55:12,011 --> 00:55:17,388 ♪ 1128 00:55:24,892 --> 00:55:26,496 My name is Elizabeth Saint. 1129 00:55:26,531 --> 00:55:28,729 I have a background in electrical engineering. 1130 00:55:28,764 --> 00:55:31,699 I've been investigating the paranormal 10 years? 1131 00:55:31,734 --> 00:55:33,503 But it's always been a part of my life. 1132 00:55:33,538 --> 00:55:35,032 -Hey, how's it going? -Good. How are you? 1133 00:55:35,067 --> 00:55:36,836 -[Elizabeth] Good. I'm good. -[Steve] Oh, man! Thank you. 1134 00:55:36,871 --> 00:55:39,102 Elizabeth, I've known for quite some time. 1135 00:55:39,137 --> 00:55:40,741 I've actually never worked with her 1136 00:55:40,776 --> 00:55:43,744 but I know her background in electrical engineering. 1137 00:55:43,779 --> 00:55:46,483 I know that she likes to build equipment. 1138 00:55:46,518 --> 00:55:48,144 So, I thought it was really important to have 1139 00:55:48,179 --> 00:55:50,619 somebody come in that can build equipment 1140 00:55:50,654 --> 00:55:52,984 and tailor it to certain experiences, 1141 00:55:53,019 --> 00:55:54,788 to certain types of phenomena. 1142 00:55:55,560 --> 00:55:57,626 Having a background in electrical engineering 1143 00:55:57,661 --> 00:55:59,727 has actually been really advantageous 1144 00:55:59,762 --> 00:56:01,190 when I go on my investigations. 1145 00:56:01,225 --> 00:56:02,895 -Hi! -[Alice] I'm Alice. 1146 00:56:02,930 --> 00:56:04,765 -I'm Elizabeth. -[Alice] It's nice to meet you. 1147 00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:06,734 -It's great to meet you, too. -[Alice] Yeah, come on in. 1148 00:56:06,769 --> 00:56:08,670 [Elizabeth] You know, I look at things a little differently. 1149 00:56:08,705 --> 00:56:11,607 Like, it's exciting when you have an experience 1150 00:56:11,642 --> 00:56:14,610 but there's always this side of me 1151 00:56:14,645 --> 00:56:16,711 that is looking for another explanation. 1152 00:56:16,746 --> 00:56:18,647 I don't know a lot about you, of your equipment 1153 00:56:18,682 --> 00:56:19,747 and electrical stuff and all that. 1154 00:56:19,782 --> 00:56:21,144 But I think it's fascinating. 1155 00:56:21,179 --> 00:56:22,750 I would like to see 1156 00:56:22,785 --> 00:56:24,180 how it works and see what you get. 1157 00:56:24,215 --> 00:56:26,919 I think it's great that Alice is open 1158 00:56:26,954 --> 00:56:29,955 to the possibilities here of what could be going on. 1159 00:56:29,990 --> 00:56:33,662 You know, a lot of times you go to a residential location 1160 00:56:33,697 --> 00:56:35,499 and they already have it in their mind 1161 00:56:35,534 --> 00:56:37,061 what they think is going on. 1162 00:56:37,096 --> 00:56:39,899 It doesn't leave a lot of room for finding out real answers. 1163 00:56:40,704 --> 00:56:42,198 They're so wrapped up in the idea 1164 00:56:42,233 --> 00:56:44,002 that this is the haunted place and this happens 1165 00:56:44,037 --> 00:56:45,542 and that happens. 1166 00:56:45,577 --> 00:56:47,841 And you can't possibly show them anything else. 1167 00:56:47,876 --> 00:56:51,075 Where here, Miss Alice and the team just want to know 1168 00:56:51,110 --> 00:56:52,142 what's causing these things. 1169 00:56:52,177 --> 00:56:53,550 Is it natural? 1170 00:56:53,585 --> 00:56:54,947 Is it some supernatural phenomenon? 1171 00:56:54,982 --> 00:56:57,015 Or-- It's nice that it's not like, "This is-- 1172 00:56:57,050 --> 00:56:59,215 There's a portal, there's a demon," and like, 1173 00:56:59,250 --> 00:57:01,118 you know, it goes down that-- that road. 1174 00:57:01,153 --> 00:57:02,724 Here, it's not like that. 1175 00:57:02,759 --> 00:57:04,561 People are just so excited to get the evidence. 1176 00:57:04,596 --> 00:57:06,563 And I am with you 100% on that. 1177 00:57:06,598 --> 00:57:08,026 Like, I am also very excited 1178 00:57:08,061 --> 00:57:10,765 but let's have it be real 1179 00:57:10,800 --> 00:57:12,602 so that we feel better about the work 1180 00:57:12,637 --> 00:57:13,900 that we're doing in this field. 1181 00:57:16,201 --> 00:57:18,971 So this has an accelerometer inside 1182 00:57:19,006 --> 00:57:22,139 that pretty much is a center that monitors any movement. 1183 00:57:22,174 --> 00:57:26,550 [long beeping] 1184 00:57:29,214 --> 00:57:30,719 Do any of these balls ever move? 1185 00:57:30,754 --> 00:57:32,116 The ones that are back here? Yeah? 1186 00:57:32,151 --> 00:57:33,689 [Alice] Not from back there. Just-- 1187 00:57:33,724 --> 00:57:34,921 Yeah, when they're-- Just the stairwell? 1188 00:57:34,956 --> 00:57:36,252 [Alice] Yeah. 1189 00:57:36,287 --> 00:57:37,858 [Elizabeth] Other balls have moved, too? 1190 00:57:37,893 --> 00:57:39,629 Well, if-- if-- Whatever we asked, those-- 1191 00:57:39,664 --> 00:57:41,125 -Hello! -[Dustin] Hey, man! 1192 00:57:41,160 --> 00:57:42,533 -How's it going? -[Brad] Hey, hey! 1193 00:57:42,568 --> 00:57:43,734 -How you doing? Dustin. -Man. 1194 00:57:43,769 --> 00:57:45,602 -[Dustin] Good to see you. -[Brad] Good to see you, man. 1195 00:57:45,637 --> 00:57:46,867 -What's up? -Nice to meet you. 1196 00:57:46,902 --> 00:57:48,198 -Nice to meet you as well-- -Hey! 1197 00:57:48,233 --> 00:57:49,771 -[Elizabeth] Hey! -How are you? 1198 00:57:49,806 --> 00:57:51,267 -[Elizabeth] Elizabeth. -I know who you are. 1199 00:57:51,302 --> 00:57:52,807 -So nice to meet you. -Nice to meet you, too. 1200 00:57:52,842 --> 00:57:54,611 Great to see you guys. 1201 00:57:54,646 --> 00:57:55,876 [Elizabeth] Something I love about Brad and John 1202 00:57:55,911 --> 00:57:57,240 is, honestly, they're so compelled 1203 00:57:57,275 --> 00:57:58,978 to find Alice answers. 1204 00:57:59,310 --> 00:58:02,146 When it comes to the equipment in the paranormal community, 1205 00:58:02,181 --> 00:58:03,917 it's very, very limited. 1206 00:58:04,623 --> 00:58:06,018 You have to understand, like, 1207 00:58:06,053 --> 00:58:09,659 these are items that are being mass produced for sale. 1208 00:58:09,991 --> 00:58:11,628 You know? 1209 00:58:11,663 --> 00:58:13,861 They're not sent data sheets on what kind of sensors 1210 00:58:13,896 --> 00:58:15,830 are involved inside the equipment. 1211 00:58:16,195 --> 00:58:18,030 You know, I kind of feel one of the biggest problems 1212 00:58:18,065 --> 00:58:20,901 with paranormal research is that everyone's always, 1213 00:58:20,936 --> 00:58:23,167 as I say, singing from the same hymnal. 1214 00:58:23,202 --> 00:58:24,707 You know, we get all these devices 1215 00:58:24,742 --> 00:58:26,203 and what do we do to make new ones? 1216 00:58:26,238 --> 00:58:28,040 We just put a new light on it. 1217 00:58:28,075 --> 00:58:30,911 You see some lights go off, you hear an alarm go off. 1218 00:58:30,946 --> 00:58:34,277 And you're like, "Ooh, ah," like, "There's something here." 1219 00:58:34,312 --> 00:58:35,883 But that's not the case. 1220 00:58:35,918 --> 00:58:37,247 You know, like, there's so many other factors 1221 00:58:37,282 --> 00:58:39,051 to take into consideration. 1222 00:58:39,086 --> 00:58:40,316 Or we combined, you know-- 1223 00:58:40,351 --> 00:58:41,790 "Now it has two features in one." 1224 00:58:41,825 --> 00:58:43,088 It's like, but it's really nothing new. 1225 00:58:43,123 --> 00:58:44,595 It's the same thing. 1226 00:58:44,630 --> 00:58:46,091 And I think that... 1227 00:58:47,292 --> 00:58:48,797 there has to be expansion 1228 00:58:48,832 --> 00:58:51,129 outside of the community to kind of understand 1229 00:58:51,164 --> 00:58:52,834 the tools that they're using. 1230 00:58:53,166 --> 00:58:55,133 And to also understand 1231 00:58:55,168 --> 00:58:56,640 all the false positives 1232 00:58:56,675 --> 00:58:58,268 that they are getting in the process. 1233 00:58:58,809 --> 00:59:00,809 Coming to the house, I did want to create 1234 00:59:00,844 --> 00:59:03,647 and-- and kind of customize things that made sense 1235 00:59:03,682 --> 00:59:05,913 to what you guys experience here, you know? 1236 00:59:05,948 --> 00:59:07,981 And everything that you documented before. 1237 00:59:08,720 --> 00:59:10,687 And, you know, I-- 1238 00:59:10,722 --> 00:59:13,382 I like to sometimes do things 1239 00:59:13,417 --> 00:59:15,791 that other people wouldn't necessarily do 1240 00:59:15,826 --> 00:59:17,254 just because if we don't try it, 1241 00:59:17,289 --> 00:59:18,860 we won't know what's going to work. 1242 00:59:19,357 --> 00:59:21,357 I have great respect for Elizabeth Saint, 1243 00:59:21,392 --> 00:59:22,897 having known her over the years, 1244 00:59:22,932 --> 00:59:24,393 having traveled from, you know, 1245 00:59:24,428 --> 00:59:26,098 conventions and things together 1246 00:59:26,133 --> 00:59:28,298 and knowing that Elizabeth goes out of her way 1247 00:59:28,333 --> 00:59:30,036 to make specific equipment 1248 00:59:30,071 --> 00:59:32,203 like the light anomaly that's here. 1249 00:59:32,238 --> 00:59:35,976 This is the-- the light sensor I told you about. 1250 00:59:36,011 --> 00:59:38,814 So maybe if we do see any light anomalies, 1251 00:59:38,849 --> 00:59:40,882 we might be able to-- It'll let us know 1252 00:59:40,917 --> 00:59:43,753 by the color that it shines, essentially. 1253 00:59:43,788 --> 00:59:45,854 She developed something to look for those lights 1254 00:59:45,889 --> 00:59:47,856 and then to try to figure out which color lights it is. 1255 00:59:47,891 --> 00:59:49,726 And it lights up responsively. 1256 00:59:49,761 --> 00:59:50,892 And the most famous thing, 1257 00:59:50,927 --> 00:59:52,256 the ball moving down the stairs. 1258 00:59:52,291 --> 00:59:54,225 So she makes a ball that she can 1259 00:59:54,260 --> 00:59:55,831 measure any slight movement. 1260 00:59:55,866 --> 00:59:58,196 So, what's unique about this is, um, 1261 00:59:58,231 --> 00:59:59,362 I call it the comm sphere. 1262 00:59:59,936 --> 01:00:02,838 And it actually communicates with my phone. 1263 01:00:02,873 --> 01:00:06,237 The Y x or Z axis and it goes right to her software. 1264 01:00:06,272 --> 01:00:07,304 And it sends her an alert. 1265 01:00:07,339 --> 01:00:09,075 So it'll show me values 1266 01:00:09,110 --> 01:00:12,782 in the X, Y, Z direction, if it moves. 1267 01:00:12,817 --> 01:00:15,884 To have the passion to say, 1268 01:00:15,919 --> 01:00:17,380 "I'm doing this case. 1269 01:00:17,415 --> 01:00:19,085 What's the type of activity? 1270 01:00:19,120 --> 01:00:21,054 What can I make specifically that will speak 1271 01:00:21,089 --> 01:00:24,024 to trying to measure that type of activity?" 1272 01:00:24,059 --> 01:00:25,762 I mean, that's-- I have trouble 1273 01:00:25,797 --> 01:00:27,324 getting on the Wi-Fi sometimes. 1274 01:00:27,359 --> 01:00:29,062 She's like, light years above that. 1275 01:00:29,097 --> 01:00:32,032 So, I've known Dustin Perry for a few years now. 1276 01:00:32,067 --> 01:00:34,771 And we've always seen each other like, 1277 01:00:34,806 --> 01:00:36,267 on the road or, you know, 1278 01:00:36,302 --> 01:00:37,939 the-- the paranormal community 1279 01:00:37,974 --> 01:00:39,743 is very, like, tight knit community, 1280 01:00:39,778 --> 01:00:40,975 so we've always run into each other. 1281 01:00:41,010 --> 01:00:42,911 But I've never had the opportunity 1282 01:00:42,946 --> 01:00:45,441 to actually work with him, so I'm really excited 1283 01:00:45,476 --> 01:00:47,245 that I'll be able to do that here. 1284 01:00:47,280 --> 01:00:48,917 [Dustin] Um, Alice. 1285 01:00:48,952 --> 01:00:50,380 She seems to really embrace what's going on here, 1286 01:00:50,415 --> 01:00:53,119 which is odd because she also seems to be afraid of it. 1287 01:00:53,154 --> 01:00:55,858 And all I want to do is go upstairs and to the left. 1288 01:00:55,893 --> 01:00:57,156 Ever since I've walked in the house. 1289 01:00:57,191 --> 01:00:58,388 -Really? -[Dustin] Yeah. 1290 01:00:58,423 --> 01:00:59,422 When I first walked into the house, 1291 01:00:59,457 --> 01:01:00,489 I even told her that. 1292 01:01:00,524 --> 01:01:01,963 When I first walked in, 1293 01:01:01,998 --> 01:01:04,328 I was immediately drawn to that door frame. 1294 01:01:04,363 --> 01:01:05,802 Yeah, yeah, for sure. 1295 01:01:05,837 --> 01:01:07,232 Just based on years of experience 1296 01:01:07,267 --> 01:01:08,398 and feeling drawn to places 1297 01:01:08,433 --> 01:01:10,103 like that seems to be the place. 1298 01:01:10,138 --> 01:01:11,973 -[Elizabeth] Me too. Yeah. -[Dustin] So. 1299 01:01:14,109 --> 01:01:16,076 Just a couple of trip hazards here. 1300 01:01:16,111 --> 01:01:17,176 [Elizabeth] Yeah. 1301 01:01:17,211 --> 01:01:21,785 ♪ 1302 01:01:21,820 --> 01:01:23,017 [Dustin] It's interesting too, because we have 1303 01:01:23,052 --> 01:01:24,414 the three mirrors like you said here. 1304 01:01:24,449 --> 01:01:26,053 And then, there's another right there. 1305 01:01:26,088 --> 01:01:28,253 I was just trying to think for light purposes too 1306 01:01:28,288 --> 01:01:29,518 but if the door's closed, 1307 01:01:29,553 --> 01:01:30,860 she does have this-- What? 1308 01:01:30,895 --> 01:01:32,191 Is this is a balcony area? 1309 01:01:32,523 --> 01:01:33,863 I-- 1310 01:01:33,898 --> 01:01:35,095 [Dustin] But there's no road there. 1311 01:01:35,130 --> 01:01:36,360 So, you're not getting any, like, 1312 01:01:36,395 --> 01:01:37,295 car light coming in through there? 1313 01:01:37,330 --> 01:01:38,395 [Elizabeth] No. 1314 01:01:39,564 --> 01:01:41,937 Because I was just trying to think for bouncing light. 1315 01:01:41,972 --> 01:01:44,104 We are close to the road in the front. 1316 01:01:47,010 --> 01:01:48,207 [Dustin] Watch that wire. 1317 01:01:51,575 --> 01:01:53,278 [Elizabeth] It's just a-- a walk-in? 1318 01:01:56,514 --> 01:01:57,986 What's with all the mirrors? 1319 01:01:58,021 --> 01:01:59,416 There's one on the floor. 1320 01:02:00,155 --> 01:02:03,123 I don't know. There is a crawlspace. 1321 01:02:04,929 --> 01:02:06,159 -[Elizabeth] Oh, is there? -[Dustin] Yeah. 1322 01:02:09,296 --> 01:02:12,033 I-- I can't really open it. Stay right there. 1323 01:02:12,431 --> 01:02:13,969 Do you know if anyone's ever been? 1324 01:02:14,466 --> 01:02:16,169 No one's gone in the crawlspace? 1325 01:02:16,468 --> 01:02:18,204 We have to go in the crawlspace. 1326 01:02:18,239 --> 01:02:20,173 [Dustin] Yeah, we definitely have to go in the crawlspace. 1327 01:02:20,208 --> 01:02:21,911 -[Elizabeth] Is there asbestos? -[Dustin] Uh, no. That's uh-- 1328 01:02:21,946 --> 01:02:23,275 [Dustin] It was put in the 90s. That's pink. 1329 01:02:23,310 --> 01:02:25,046 -[Elizabeth] Oh, yeah. -[Dustin] Yeah. Oh. 1330 01:02:25,884 --> 01:02:27,246 [Elizabeth] What is it? 1331 01:02:27,281 --> 01:02:28,918 [Dustin] All my hair's just standing up there. 1332 01:02:28,953 --> 01:02:30,183 [Elizabeth gasps] It is. 1333 01:02:30,889 --> 01:02:32,548 Like, it just felt like something, like, grazed me 1334 01:02:32,583 --> 01:02:34,352 and I just looked down and everything... 1335 01:02:35,025 --> 01:02:36,255 [Elizabeth] That's so weird. 1336 01:02:36,290 --> 01:02:37,828 [Dustin] It still feels like more is going. 1337 01:02:38,589 --> 01:02:40,226 It's like you're about to get electrocuted. 1338 01:02:40,261 --> 01:02:41,832 -[Dustin chuckles] Right. -[Elizabeth] But right before, 1339 01:02:41,867 --> 01:02:43,064 you know, you get struck by lightning 1340 01:02:43,099 --> 01:02:44,527 -a lot of times your-- -Yeah. 1341 01:02:44,562 --> 01:02:45,836 -[Elizabeth] Hair will-- -Yeah, it all did. 1342 01:02:46,168 --> 01:02:47,365 [Elizabeth] Hair will stand up. 1343 01:02:48,071 --> 01:02:49,367 -That's odd. -[Elizabeth] It's weird 1344 01:02:49,402 --> 01:02:50,566 that no one's been in there. 1345 01:02:50,601 --> 01:02:52,007 [Dustin] I know, right? For sure. 1346 01:02:52,339 --> 01:02:53,943 Jeez. I'm breaking things. 1347 01:02:56,046 --> 01:02:57,573 It doesn't go too far back but I mean, 1348 01:02:57,608 --> 01:02:59,047 we could definitely sit in there and do, 1349 01:02:59,082 --> 01:03:00,312 like an EVP session or something. 1350 01:03:00,347 --> 01:03:03,051 -Yeah, I think we should. -[Dustin] Yeah. 1351 01:03:04,384 --> 01:03:05,823 [knocking] 1352 01:03:06,892 --> 01:03:09,156 If there's anybody here that could hear our voice, 1353 01:03:09,191 --> 01:03:12,225 are you able to communicate by just knocking for us? 1354 01:03:12,260 --> 01:03:13,424 [knock-knock-knock] 1355 01:03:13,459 --> 01:03:14,865 Can you do something like that? 1356 01:03:26,538 --> 01:03:27,603 How 'bout in here? 1357 01:03:27,638 --> 01:03:28,879 [knock-knock-knock] 1358 01:03:28,914 --> 01:03:30,111 [faint knock] 1359 01:03:30,641 --> 01:03:32,245 [Elizabeth] Well, you heard that, right? 1360 01:03:33,281 --> 01:03:34,885 It sounded like it was in this-- 1361 01:03:34,920 --> 01:03:36,546 -It sounded inside. -[Dustin] Yeah. 1362 01:03:36,581 --> 01:03:38,614 [ominous music] 1363 01:03:38,649 --> 01:03:39,890 Is that a woman's voice? 1364 01:03:40,926 --> 01:03:41,992 -[Elizabeth] I-- I heard a-- -I heard a knock. 1365 01:03:42,027 --> 01:03:44,158 It sounded like it was maybe like, a woman's voice 1366 01:03:44,193 --> 01:03:45,390 or something right before it. 1367 01:03:47,262 --> 01:03:48,327 [exhales] 1368 01:03:48,362 --> 01:03:50,263 This happens quick. 1369 01:03:52,003 --> 01:03:54,201 I think we get some good starting points of ideas 1370 01:03:54,236 --> 01:03:56,368 in terms of trying to do a focused investigation. 1371 01:03:56,403 --> 01:03:58,238 This area has already been pretty hot. 1372 01:03:58,273 --> 01:03:59,943 -[Brad] Yeah. -We've had knocks and response. 1373 01:03:59,978 --> 01:04:02,506 So, if we do a session in the crawlspace. 1374 01:04:02,541 --> 01:04:05,377 -Uh-huh. -Use your ion charger, 1375 01:04:05,412 --> 01:04:07,984 throw that in there for a while and then repeat the session. 1376 01:04:08,019 --> 01:04:09,546 Right. And see if there's a change. 1377 01:04:09,581 --> 01:04:11,383 -Yeah. -I think that's smart. 1378 01:04:11,418 --> 01:04:14,287 I used to have an ion generator in my bedroom when I was a kid. 1379 01:04:14,322 --> 01:04:16,388 It was like an air purifier and ion generator. 1380 01:04:16,687 --> 01:04:18,258 I don't know. My mom bought it on QVC. 1381 01:04:18,293 --> 01:04:20,359 -[Elizabeth] Okay. -But it was-- it was nice. 1382 01:04:21,329 --> 01:04:23,395 With ion motors, it's very interesting. 1383 01:04:23,430 --> 01:04:24,968 Like the one I have, 1384 01:04:25,003 --> 01:04:27,069 you can make it so it's producing positive 1385 01:04:27,104 --> 01:04:29,434 but you can also make it so it's producing negative ions. 1386 01:04:29,469 --> 01:04:31,073 And it's going to have a different feeling 1387 01:04:31,108 --> 01:04:32,173 and a different effect. 1388 01:04:32,208 --> 01:04:34,175 I did bring an ion motor, 1389 01:04:34,210 --> 01:04:37,013 but, um, the one I have is pretty serious. 1390 01:04:37,048 --> 01:04:38,443 Yeah? I love it! 1391 01:04:38,478 --> 01:04:41,083 "I don't want to brag but the ion motor I have--" 1392 01:04:41,118 --> 01:04:43,283 It's little but it packs a punch. 1393 01:04:44,022 --> 01:04:45,615 You're going to go out that way? 1394 01:04:45,650 --> 01:04:47,023 -[Brad] Yes. -[Dustin] Or not. 1395 01:04:47,058 --> 01:04:48,717 [Elizabeth laughs] 1396 01:04:48,752 --> 01:04:50,961 [Dustin] Which one will go to the garage? 1397 01:04:50,996 --> 01:04:52,457 I don't know which door's which. 1398 01:04:52,492 --> 01:04:53,689 It's like a labyrinth. 1399 01:04:53,724 --> 01:04:55,064 [Brad] [indistinct] show already. 1400 01:04:55,099 --> 01:04:56,032 [Dustin] Yeah. I go here, there. 1401 01:04:56,067 --> 01:04:57,330 [Brad chuckles] 1402 01:04:57,365 --> 01:04:59,398 [night din] 1403 01:05:04,636 --> 01:05:06,075 [Elizabeth] What's all this? 1404 01:05:07,210 --> 01:05:08,407 You guys digging out here? 1405 01:05:15,119 --> 01:05:16,382 Wait, stop for a second. 1406 01:05:17,220 --> 01:05:19,220 -Do you hear that? -[faint whistling] 1407 01:05:19,255 --> 01:05:21,189 -[Alice] What was it? -Someone's whistling. 1408 01:05:21,521 --> 01:05:23,191 [Alice] Oh, whistling? Yeah. 1409 01:05:23,721 --> 01:05:25,127 [Dustin] Hello? 1410 01:05:25,756 --> 01:05:28,130 [Dustin whistling] 1411 01:05:31,531 --> 01:05:32,564 That's what I heard. 1412 01:05:35,337 --> 01:05:37,007 -[Dustin] Well, let me get-- -There, there, there. 1413 01:05:37,042 --> 01:05:38,371 -[ghostly whistling] -You don't hear that? 1414 01:05:38,406 --> 01:05:39,702 -[Dustin] I heard it. -[Elizabeth] You did? 1415 01:05:39,737 --> 01:05:41,143 [Dustin] Yeah. 1416 01:05:41,673 --> 01:05:43,475 -It was the same tune. -[Dustin] Yeah. 1417 01:05:46,777 --> 01:05:48,315 [Elizabeth] That's so weird. 1418 01:05:54,125 --> 01:05:56,059 -Why that tune? -[Dustin] I know, right? 1419 01:05:56,094 --> 01:05:58,391 -Frère Jacques. -It is Frère Jacques. 1420 01:06:04,135 --> 01:06:05,530 [Dustin] Is there something moving back there? 1421 01:06:06,170 --> 01:06:07,532 [Brad] Totally noise to my right-- 1422 01:06:07,567 --> 01:06:09,237 [Elizabeth] It sounds like someone's walking. 1423 01:06:09,272 --> 01:06:10,205 [Brad] There's something just ran across there. 1424 01:06:10,240 --> 01:06:11,536 [receding footsteps] 1425 01:06:14,409 --> 01:06:17,113 I-- I saw something go like straight across. 1426 01:06:17,148 --> 01:06:20,050 [ominous music] 1427 01:06:20,085 --> 01:06:22,019 [Alice] It's a real person or what? 1428 01:06:22,846 --> 01:06:24,582 [Dustin] Oh, man. 1429 01:06:24,617 --> 01:06:26,617 [Alice] I heard a woman's voice over there a couple times. 1430 01:06:26,652 --> 01:06:28,487 [Dustin] You know, Alice, one thing I will say, though, 1431 01:06:28,522 --> 01:06:31,655 despite all the kind of touch and go, little bits of, 1432 01:06:31,690 --> 01:06:33,756 of activity even inside. 1433 01:06:33,791 --> 01:06:35,692 Like, I don't know, for me personally, 1434 01:06:35,727 --> 01:06:37,265 I don't feel anything that feels like, 1435 01:06:37,300 --> 01:06:39,498 threatening or-- or-- or angry in any way. 1436 01:06:39,533 --> 01:06:41,302 [Alice] My neighbor said-- she said all these [indistinct] 1437 01:06:41,337 --> 01:06:42,798 they like thinking she sees people. 1438 01:06:42,833 --> 01:06:44,371 She gets out there, there's nobody there. 1439 01:06:44,406 --> 01:06:46,505 There's no reading's, like, out here, 1440 01:06:46,540 --> 01:06:49,508 but out here we had this strange whistling. 1441 01:06:49,543 --> 01:06:51,246 -[Dustin] Yeah. -Sounded like people were 1442 01:06:51,281 --> 01:06:53,149 having conversation back there. 1443 01:06:53,646 --> 01:06:54,711 [Brad] Also a female voice. 1444 01:06:55,914 --> 01:06:59,419 [Elizabeth] Um, we heard, like, footsteps, it seems like. 1445 01:06:59,454 --> 01:07:01,520 You know, coming back tomorrow 1446 01:07:01,555 --> 01:07:03,456 with more equipment, 1447 01:07:03,491 --> 01:07:05,293 I will be curious to see 1448 01:07:05,328 --> 01:07:07,526 if it responds the same. 1449 01:07:07,561 --> 01:07:09,330 I'm thrilled that you came, both of you. 1450 01:07:09,365 --> 01:07:10,859 [Elizabeth] Yeah. Thank you for having us. 1451 01:07:10,894 --> 01:07:12,300 [Dustin] Thank you very much. We appreciate it. 1452 01:07:12,335 --> 01:07:15,336 Oh, yeah. It was our-- our pleasure. 1453 01:07:16,735 --> 01:07:18,108 [Brad] And we get to meet Jacques. 1454 01:07:18,143 --> 01:07:19,439 We have a new person on the team. 1455 01:07:19,474 --> 01:07:21,177 [Dustin] Yeah. Your little mascot. 1456 01:07:21,212 --> 01:07:22,475 [Brad] Helps us dig holes and stuff. 1457 01:07:22,906 --> 01:07:24,708 [Dustin] That's right. Dig and fill them. 1458 01:07:24,743 --> 01:07:27,381 [Brad] Yes. Yes. At least he's courteous. 1459 01:07:27,416 --> 01:07:29,086 [Dustin] Yeah, that's very nice. 1460 01:07:29,748 --> 01:07:32,353 [purposeful piano instrumental] 1461 01:07:32,388 --> 01:07:37,424 ♪ 1462 01:07:45,236 --> 01:07:46,466 [Morgan] Florence, 1463 01:07:46,501 --> 01:07:48,633 a small town in central Mississippi. 1464 01:07:49,768 --> 01:07:51,207 Maybe you've never heard of it. 1465 01:07:52,771 --> 01:07:54,243 It has history. 1466 01:07:54,674 --> 01:07:56,410 Some dark history as well. 1467 01:07:56,907 --> 01:07:58,643 There were outlaws here. 1468 01:07:59,316 --> 01:08:02,350 Bad men, charlatans, 1469 01:08:02,385 --> 01:08:04,319 those who would steal your money. 1470 01:08:04,783 --> 01:08:06,156 Those who would take your life. 1471 01:08:06,521 --> 01:08:09,225 And like most good stories, this story happens 1472 01:08:09,260 --> 01:08:11,227 long ago in a place far away. 1473 01:08:11,262 --> 01:08:12,690 Western South Carolina. 1474 01:08:13,264 --> 01:08:15,594 A ma'am named Nancy Lusk. 1475 01:08:15,926 --> 01:08:17,464 Her middle name was Agnes. 1476 01:08:17,499 --> 01:08:19,169 And I believe she actually went by Agnes. 1477 01:08:19,204 --> 01:08:21,468 She was born in a time of war. 1478 01:08:21,503 --> 01:08:23,470 She came of age in the events 1479 01:08:23,505 --> 01:08:25,637 leading up to the American Revolution. 1480 01:08:26,409 --> 01:08:27,903 She was 19 years old. 1481 01:08:27,938 --> 01:08:29,806 She warred-- married a man named William Steen. 1482 01:08:30,512 --> 01:08:31,907 William Steen will actually fight 1483 01:08:31,942 --> 01:08:33,315 in the American Revolution 1484 01:08:33,350 --> 01:08:34,811 at the Battle of Kings Mountain. 1485 01:08:34,846 --> 01:08:38,254 So about 1810, William decides to take his family West 1486 01:08:38,289 --> 01:08:40,388 into the new Mississippi territory, 1487 01:08:40,423 --> 01:08:42,357 where the land is rich and fertile. 1488 01:08:42,755 --> 01:08:43,919 During this interval, 1489 01:08:43,954 --> 01:08:45,525 one of these mules comes up missing. 1490 01:08:45,560 --> 01:08:47,626 So he goes out looking for his mule 1491 01:08:47,661 --> 01:08:48,726 and he never returns. 1492 01:08:50,598 --> 01:08:52,796 It was believed that he might have been killed 1493 01:08:52,831 --> 01:08:54,303 by the Native Americans 1494 01:08:54,338 --> 01:08:55,898 who still claim this land as their own. 1495 01:08:55,933 --> 01:08:57,834 But nobody really knows for certain. 1496 01:08:57,869 --> 01:08:59,572 But nonetheless, he never returns. 1497 01:08:59,607 --> 01:09:02,410 And so Agnes is now the matriarch of the family 1498 01:09:02,445 --> 01:09:04,775 and she and the rest for grown children 1499 01:09:04,810 --> 01:09:06,777 push on and complete the journey. 1500 01:09:07,450 --> 01:09:08,845 And they settle here. 1501 01:09:08,880 --> 01:09:10,484 And since they settle, first settlers, 1502 01:09:10,519 --> 01:09:12,321 it becomes known as Steen's Creek. 1503 01:09:12,653 --> 01:09:15,390 Uh, by the turn of the 20th century, 1504 01:09:15,425 --> 01:09:17,590 this area has been known as Steen Creek for a while. 1505 01:09:18,263 --> 01:09:20,461 And there's a new rail line coming through. 1506 01:09:21,431 --> 01:09:22,925 They're going to build a railroad track 1507 01:09:22,960 --> 01:09:25,499 from the Gulf Coast up into the capital city of Jackson, 1508 01:09:25,534 --> 01:09:26,830 a few miles north of here. 1509 01:09:26,865 --> 01:09:28,964 Uh, one gentleman, Mr. Ellis, 1510 01:09:28,999 --> 01:09:31,571 will donate the land for the depot 1511 01:09:31,606 --> 01:09:32,539 on one condition. 1512 01:09:32,574 --> 01:09:35,245 He wants that depot named after his wife. 1513 01:09:35,775 --> 01:09:38,413 Willing to take the free land, whatever they can, 1514 01:09:38,448 --> 01:09:41,317 the depot is actually named Florence Depot 1515 01:09:41,352 --> 01:09:43,319 rather than Steen's Creek. 1516 01:09:46,390 --> 01:09:47,983 Most of American history and again, 1517 01:09:48,018 --> 01:09:49,457 the history of the world is made-- 1518 01:09:49,492 --> 01:09:50,788 It's been a man's world. 1519 01:09:51,362 --> 01:09:53,329 The men take the credit and are the kings. 1520 01:09:53,364 --> 01:09:55,023 They're the soldiers, they're the ones that go off 1521 01:09:55,058 --> 01:09:57,564 and everybody raves about them. 1522 01:09:57,599 --> 01:10:00,468 But back there in-- Behind them in the shadows 1523 01:10:00,503 --> 01:10:01,997 have always been the women 1524 01:10:02,032 --> 01:10:04,538 making sure the farm is still running, 1525 01:10:04,573 --> 01:10:07,541 making sure there's food still heading out to the front, 1526 01:10:07,576 --> 01:10:10,412 making sure the hard decisions are being made. 1527 01:10:10,876 --> 01:10:13,679 The hand that rocks the cradle rules the world. 1528 01:10:16,321 --> 01:10:18,783 And now it's 1905. 1529 01:10:19,324 --> 01:10:20,488 We're going to build a city. 1530 01:10:20,523 --> 01:10:21,753 What are we going to call it? 1531 01:10:21,788 --> 01:10:24,327 And I suspect, I don't know for certain, 1532 01:10:24,362 --> 01:10:25,889 but I suspect by this time a lot of people 1533 01:10:25,924 --> 01:10:27,561 had started referring to it 1534 01:10:27,596 --> 01:10:29,497 by the name of the Depot, Florence. 1535 01:10:29,532 --> 01:10:31,697 And the City of Florence was born. 1536 01:10:31,732 --> 01:10:35,030 Founded by a woman and named for a woman. 1537 01:10:35,065 --> 01:10:40,442 ♪ 1538 01:10:42,809 --> 01:10:45,040 [Steve] Mary Alice? Hi. 1539 01:10:45,075 --> 01:10:47,075 [both laughing] 1540 01:10:47,110 --> 01:10:49,418 I, uh-- I have these for you. 1541 01:10:49,849 --> 01:10:52,520 Um, thank you for making time 1542 01:10:52,555 --> 01:10:54,588 to meet with us again. 1543 01:10:54,623 --> 01:10:56,656 We've had really incredible researchers 1544 01:10:56,691 --> 01:10:58,790 do a deep dive with some of the Steen history. 1545 01:10:58,825 --> 01:11:01,859 Florence husband, C Ellis... 1546 01:11:01,894 --> 01:11:04,631 [John] And, um, they found some old photographs. 1547 01:11:04,666 --> 01:11:07,535 [Mary Alice] Gave the land to the railroad company. 1548 01:11:07,570 --> 01:11:11,033 The Steen family is a very-- Well, the Steen name 1549 01:11:11,068 --> 01:11:14,003 is a very, very well known name 1550 01:11:14,038 --> 01:11:15,444 in the Florence area. 1551 01:11:15,479 --> 01:11:16,874 In fact, there's a lot of streets named 1552 01:11:16,909 --> 01:11:18,645 Steen this, Steen that, 1553 01:11:18,680 --> 01:11:19,976 Steen Creek. 1554 01:11:20,011 --> 01:11:23,386 [Steve] Do you think Mr. Steen 1555 01:11:23,421 --> 01:11:25,586 or Mrs. Steen 1556 01:11:25,621 --> 01:11:28,391 has anything to do with the haunting here? 1557 01:11:29,955 --> 01:11:33,825 I don't know if the Steens have anything to do 1558 01:11:33,860 --> 01:11:35,431 with the haunting here. 1559 01:11:35,466 --> 01:11:38,830 We have had some EVP's with Henry. 1560 01:11:38,865 --> 01:11:41,932 Henry Steen is somebody that I've called out, 1561 01:11:41,967 --> 01:11:43,406 uh, to several times. 1562 01:11:43,441 --> 01:11:45,969 We've captured an EVP voice recording 1563 01:11:46,004 --> 01:11:48,103 that did say Henry, obviously. 1564 01:11:48,138 --> 01:11:51,645 And Henry Steen is one Steen families. 1565 01:11:52,483 --> 01:11:54,417 [Brad] Can you tell us what your name is? 1566 01:11:55,486 --> 01:11:56,848 [male voice] Henry. 1567 01:11:57,521 --> 01:11:59,389 You know, there is definitely a-- 1568 01:11:59,424 --> 01:12:02,590 a pattern of the male, whether it's the apparition, 1569 01:12:02,625 --> 01:12:03,888 whether it's the voice. 1570 01:12:03,923 --> 01:12:08,959 ♪ 1571 01:12:15,000 --> 01:12:17,572 Hearing Henry kind of validates 1572 01:12:17,607 --> 01:12:19,772 and kind of puts things in perspective. 1573 01:12:20,203 --> 01:12:22,577 So that's possible. 1574 01:12:22,975 --> 01:12:25,745 There is a lot of Henrys in the world, though. 1575 01:12:26,209 --> 01:12:28,484 [birds tweeting] 1576 01:12:29,718 --> 01:12:31,388 [dog barks] 1577 01:12:38,463 --> 01:12:40,463 [beeping] 1578 01:12:42,533 --> 01:12:43,763 That's interesting. 1579 01:12:44,667 --> 01:12:47,437 It's not metal but it's fabric of some kind. 1580 01:12:48,671 --> 01:12:49,571 So... 1581 01:12:50,674 --> 01:12:53,641 I found this while the detector picked up the metal. 1582 01:12:53,676 --> 01:12:55,709 What's interesting even more to me, 1583 01:12:55,744 --> 01:12:57,513 this looks like it's some kind of fabric. 1584 01:12:57,548 --> 01:13:00,780 [determined music] 1585 01:13:00,815 --> 01:13:03,486 It's really kind-- It's really sensitive. 1586 01:13:03,521 --> 01:13:06,082 Oh. Oh, yeah. 1587 01:13:06,117 --> 01:13:07,622 [Alice] It's hard to tell. 1588 01:13:07,657 --> 01:13:11,087 [speaking over each other] 1589 01:13:11,122 --> 01:13:12,594 [Brad] Be very gentle. 1590 01:13:15,126 --> 01:13:18,028 [motor whirring] 1591 01:13:24,069 --> 01:13:26,443 [John] Oh! Oh! 1592 01:13:27,710 --> 01:13:30,579 But what's intriguing about, about what this object is 1593 01:13:30,614 --> 01:13:32,779 is the fact that it was so deep. 1594 01:13:32,814 --> 01:13:35,111 [Alice] Well, does it feel like [indistinct]? 1595 01:13:36,015 --> 01:13:37,883 Oh, it's even got a-- Oh, my goodness. What's it say? 1596 01:13:37,918 --> 01:13:39,247 [Brad] Oh, it's got something fancy on it. 1597 01:13:39,282 --> 01:13:40,721 Oh, it's got letters on it. 1598 01:13:41,152 --> 01:13:42,624 [Alice] Because it is [indistinct]. 1599 01:13:47,125 --> 01:13:48,597 Right there underneath. 1600 01:13:49,160 --> 01:13:51,226 [beeping] 1601 01:13:51,261 --> 01:13:52,568 There you go, Sabrina. 1602 01:13:52,603 --> 01:13:55,637 [beeping continues] 1603 01:14:01,909 --> 01:14:04,140 [Sabrina] It's almost like a fake. 1604 01:14:04,175 --> 01:14:06,208 [beeping] 1605 01:14:06,243 --> 01:14:11,884 ♪ 1606 01:14:25,031 --> 01:14:26,063 [Brad] That's weird. 1607 01:14:26,901 --> 01:14:28,901 -It's definitely metal. -[Sabrina] Yeah. 1608 01:14:31,235 --> 01:14:32,641 [Brad clears throat] 1609 01:14:34,172 --> 01:14:35,875 Oh, boy. Is that jewelry? 1610 01:14:35,910 --> 01:14:39,043 [Steve] I think so, it might be a ring. 1611 01:14:42,180 --> 01:14:43,718 [beeping] 1612 01:14:45,183 --> 01:14:46,589 68. 1613 01:14:47,152 --> 01:14:49,185 Silver usually rings around 70. 1614 01:14:49,220 --> 01:14:50,659 I'm not saying it's silver, but-- 1615 01:14:50,694 --> 01:14:52,925 [indistinct talking] 1616 01:14:57,668 --> 01:14:58,865 [John] It's an odd shape. 1617 01:15:04,367 --> 01:15:06,675 [Steve] We didn't find any evidence of bodies 1618 01:15:06,710 --> 01:15:08,644 in the ground or old structures. 1619 01:15:08,679 --> 01:15:11,207 So, that makes sense that at one time 1620 01:15:11,242 --> 01:15:13,176 there were graves back there 1621 01:15:13,211 --> 01:15:15,178 but the bodies have been removed. 1622 01:15:15,213 --> 01:15:16,916 And that's what the ERI survey said, 1623 01:15:16,951 --> 01:15:19,589 that there are unmarked graves there 1624 01:15:19,624 --> 01:15:22,559 but the bodies just aren't there anymore. 1625 01:15:23,023 --> 01:15:24,957 [night din] 1626 01:15:24,992 --> 01:15:29,665 ♪ 1627 01:15:31,361 --> 01:15:34,065 [Elizabeth] I-- I set up some environmental sensors for us. 1628 01:15:34,100 --> 01:15:35,231 [Dustin] Uh-huh. 1629 01:15:36,367 --> 01:15:38,938 And I'm going to be monitoring temperature, pressure. 1630 01:15:38,973 --> 01:15:41,644 And also, I-- I do have a magnetic coil 1631 01:15:41,679 --> 01:15:43,778 that I've wired up to an amplifier, 1632 01:15:43,813 --> 01:15:46,242 and I just put it on the walking stick. 1633 01:15:46,277 --> 01:15:47,584 I felt like there was... 1634 01:15:48,787 --> 01:15:50,785 Atmospheric data has always been really important to me 1635 01:15:50,820 --> 01:15:52,215 on any investigation I do 1636 01:15:52,250 --> 01:15:54,217 because I have found correlations 1637 01:15:54,252 --> 01:15:56,285 between a change in the environment 1638 01:15:56,320 --> 01:15:58,991 with paranormal activity happening. 1639 01:15:59,026 --> 01:16:00,696 I'm not saying that that's a ghost. 1640 01:16:00,731 --> 01:16:03,666 But what I am saying is that there are weird, 1641 01:16:03,701 --> 01:16:05,965 interesting things that sometimes take place 1642 01:16:06,000 --> 01:16:07,868 when you see a dip in the data. 1643 01:16:07,903 --> 01:16:10,068 And I always find that to be fascinating. 1644 01:16:12,303 --> 01:16:14,138 -Nice. -Ta-da. 1645 01:16:14,173 --> 01:16:15,744 We look great. 1646 01:16:16,142 --> 01:16:17,405 Oh, my gosh. 1647 01:16:17,440 --> 01:16:19,143 -[Elizabeth] I look crazed. -[Dustin laughs] 1648 01:16:20,784 --> 01:16:22,685 All right, so I brought a Theremin, 1649 01:16:22,720 --> 01:16:25,688 um, which is an old school instrument. 1650 01:16:25,723 --> 01:16:27,250 So, if we could wire the door. 1651 01:16:27,285 --> 01:16:29,989 But we're going to extend the range of it, right? 1652 01:16:30,024 --> 01:16:31,727 [Elizabeth] Yeah, so I think by, like, 1653 01:16:31,762 --> 01:16:33,355 extending the antenna out. 1654 01:16:33,390 --> 01:16:34,994 -[Dustin] Uh-huh. -And since the-- 1655 01:16:35,029 --> 01:16:37,359 We both when we first arrived here, 1656 01:16:37,394 --> 01:16:38,998 we were drawn to this door frame. 1657 01:16:39,033 --> 01:16:40,670 -[Dustin] Yeah. -So I think that 1658 01:16:40,705 --> 01:16:42,331 by creating a threshold. 1659 01:16:42,366 --> 01:16:45,433 So, if any, like, subtle energy comes in, 1660 01:16:45,468 --> 01:16:47,072 the hope is that it sets off the Theremin. 1661 01:16:47,107 --> 01:16:49,008 [Dustin] Right. That would be great. 1662 01:16:50,880 --> 01:16:53,782 So, we're just wrapping the copper wire 1663 01:16:53,817 --> 01:16:56,444 around the, uh, pitch antenna of the Theremin, here. 1664 01:16:56,479 --> 01:16:58,886 So, this would be normally how you control 1665 01:16:58,921 --> 01:17:01,383 the, uh-- the pitch sound by moving your hand closer. 1666 01:17:01,418 --> 01:17:02,857 Completely experimental. 1667 01:17:02,892 --> 01:17:04,287 Not sure if it's going to work. 1668 01:17:04,322 --> 01:17:07,026 But if it does, that would be really interesting. 1669 01:17:11,769 --> 01:17:14,198 [Dustin] It's just good to continue to try new things. 1670 01:17:16,466 --> 01:17:17,872 [Elizabeth] So... 1671 01:17:20,206 --> 01:17:21,304 [quietly] Now we'll see. 1672 01:17:21,944 --> 01:17:23,779 -[Elizabeth gasps] -Yeah? 1673 01:17:23,814 --> 01:17:25,341 So now it's working because normally 1674 01:17:25,376 --> 01:17:27,145 you have to be touching that. 1675 01:17:28,115 --> 01:17:29,180 Go, go in the door. 1676 01:17:30,755 --> 01:17:32,117 -[Elizabeth] Oh. -[Dustin] Yeah. 1677 01:17:32,152 --> 01:17:33,822 That time it worked. Yeah. That time it worked. 1678 01:17:33,857 --> 01:17:35,153 -[Elizabeth] That worked. -[Dustin] So it is-- 1679 01:17:35,188 --> 01:17:36,385 It's building up and getting the whole thing. 1680 01:17:36,420 --> 01:17:37,925 -Yeah. -[Dustin] Yeah-- 1681 01:17:37,960 --> 01:17:39,223 -Oh, see! Can you hear it? -[Dustin] Yup. 1682 01:17:39,258 --> 01:17:40,730 -[gasps] -That's a lot of fun. 1683 01:17:40,765 --> 01:17:42,127 [Elizabeth] Oh, that's so fun. 1684 01:17:43,493 --> 01:17:45,031 I love science. 1685 01:17:45,066 --> 01:17:46,736 [both laughing] 1686 01:17:46,771 --> 01:17:48,166 I like it. That's great. 1687 01:17:48,971 --> 01:17:50,432 The science community isn't open 1688 01:17:50,467 --> 01:17:52,500 to the idea of the paranormal. 1689 01:17:52,535 --> 01:17:55,811 And unfortunately, the paranormal community 1690 01:17:55,846 --> 01:17:58,506 isn't viewed as-- 1691 01:17:58,541 --> 01:18:00,816 It's not taken seriously. Like, that's a problem. 1692 01:18:00,851 --> 01:18:02,917 We're just not taken seriously. 1693 01:18:04,118 --> 01:18:05,887 I've always thought it was interesting 1694 01:18:05,922 --> 01:18:09,154 that for some reason people think science 1695 01:18:09,189 --> 01:18:12,223 and spirituality have to butt heads. 1696 01:18:12,797 --> 01:18:14,863 You know, the fact that research scientists 1697 01:18:14,898 --> 01:18:16,964 would be afraid to speak to somebody about something 1698 01:18:16,999 --> 01:18:19,802 of a spiritual nature or paranormal nature, 1699 01:18:19,837 --> 01:18:21,463 I think shows that divide. 1700 01:18:21,498 --> 01:18:23,938 And that divide is-- is a problem. 1701 01:18:23,973 --> 01:18:25,973 I would love to get to a place where the field's 1702 01:18:26,008 --> 01:18:28,536 taken more seriously, because not only do I think 1703 01:18:28,571 --> 01:18:30,109 the paranormal community is missing out 1704 01:18:30,144 --> 01:18:31,539 but I also feel like the science community 1705 01:18:31,574 --> 01:18:32,980 is missing out. 1706 01:18:33,015 --> 01:18:34,509 [Dustin] Do the initial run in here. 1707 01:18:34,544 --> 01:18:36,852 Yeah, I think yesterday-- What? 1708 01:18:37,514 --> 01:18:38,854 [Dustin] I got too close to it. 1709 01:18:38,889 --> 01:18:40,251 -[Elizabeth] Okay. -[Dustin laughs] 1710 01:18:40,286 --> 01:18:42,858 But this is interesting because if something-- 1711 01:18:42,893 --> 01:18:44,860 This doorway seems to be an active spot 1712 01:18:44,895 --> 01:18:46,422 so if something decides to walk through here, 1713 01:18:46,457 --> 01:18:48,160 we should be able to hear it. 1714 01:18:49,196 --> 01:18:50,525 So we're going to do an experiment. 1715 01:18:50,560 --> 01:18:52,131 [Dustin] All right. Very good. 1716 01:18:52,166 --> 01:18:54,265 So first we're going to do an initial session. 1717 01:18:55,103 --> 01:18:56,300 [rapid beeping] 1718 01:18:56,335 --> 01:18:59,138 Everything's beeping. Did you touch the door? 1719 01:18:59,173 --> 01:19:00,205 [Elizabeth] No. 1720 01:19:00,240 --> 01:19:05,375 ♪ 1721 01:19:05,410 --> 01:19:07,916 [Dustin] I have to keep an ear out for both these things. 1722 01:19:09,513 --> 01:19:12,954 [rapid rattling] 1723 01:19:14,485 --> 01:19:17,024 I'm just going to baseline this meter. 1724 01:19:17,059 --> 01:19:18,223 Uh-huh. 1725 01:19:19,193 --> 01:19:21,864 Hello. This is Elizabeth and Dustin. 1726 01:19:22,592 --> 01:19:24,427 If you're able to communicate with us 1727 01:19:24,462 --> 01:19:26,231 or maybe let us hear your voice. 1728 01:19:26,629 --> 01:19:28,904 Try to speak into this device here. 1729 01:19:29,973 --> 01:19:31,269 We may be able to hear you. 1730 01:19:31,304 --> 01:19:36,340 ♪ 1731 01:19:43,217 --> 01:19:45,987 Dustin to, uh, the team out in the tech tent. 1732 01:19:46,517 --> 01:19:47,923 Can you see if anybody is walking 1733 01:19:47,958 --> 01:19:50,288 in the DVR cameras downstairs? 1734 01:19:51,962 --> 01:19:53,995 -[Brad] Nobody's walking. -[radio static] 1735 01:19:54,492 --> 01:19:57,933 Okay, so... timestamp. 1736 01:20:00,564 --> 01:20:03,235 [distant muffled thumping] 1737 01:20:04,370 --> 01:20:05,501 You hear that? 1738 01:20:05,536 --> 01:20:10,946 [night din] 1739 01:20:16,679 --> 01:20:20,120 Can you tell us what road the house is on? 1740 01:20:22,487 --> 01:20:24,355 Is there a name you like to go by? 1741 01:20:27,096 --> 01:20:29,899 What's the object on the stairs that you move? 1742 01:20:35,665 --> 01:20:38,072 -[indistinct] out here. -[Dustin] All right. 1743 01:20:40,208 --> 01:20:42,307 [whirring] 1744 01:20:43,673 --> 01:20:45,640 Pardon me, young lady. 1745 01:20:45,675 --> 01:20:46,982 [Elizabeth over recorder] Is there a name 1746 01:20:47,017 --> 01:20:48,214 you like to go by? 1747 01:20:50,152 --> 01:20:51,679 [Dustin on recorder] What's the object on the stairs 1748 01:20:51,714 --> 01:20:52,988 that you move? 1749 01:20:53,023 --> 01:20:54,418 [faint voice] 1750 01:20:54,959 --> 01:20:57,520 -Oh! Did you hear that? -[Elizabeth] I did! 1751 01:20:57,555 --> 01:20:59,258 [Dustin] Oh, that's awesome! 1752 01:20:59,293 --> 01:21:01,260 Wow. 1753 01:21:01,295 --> 01:21:03,229 [Dustin on recorder] What's the object on the stairs 1754 01:21:03,264 --> 01:21:03,963 that you move? 1755 01:21:03,998 --> 01:21:05,396 [voice faintly] Baseball. 1756 01:21:05,431 --> 01:21:07,431 Oh! That's so good. 1757 01:21:08,269 --> 01:21:10,269 I think he says "Baseball". 1758 01:21:10,304 --> 01:21:12,106 [Elizabeth over speaker] Yeah, right? 1759 01:21:12,504 --> 01:21:14,141 Crazy that baseball was said. 1760 01:21:14,176 --> 01:21:15,670 [Dustin] Right. For sure. 1761 01:21:15,705 --> 01:21:18,475 How much is that collectively us 1762 01:21:18,510 --> 01:21:19,575 -knowing? -[Dustin] Right. 1763 01:21:20,149 --> 01:21:23,183 Maybe after we charge it up, 1764 01:21:23,218 --> 01:21:25,020 we ask those questions again. 1765 01:21:25,055 --> 01:21:26,681 -The same exact ones. -[Dustin] Yeah. 1766 01:21:26,716 --> 01:21:28,221 [Elizabeth] And see if there's a change. 1767 01:21:28,256 --> 01:21:29,651 And then maybe we should throw in another question 1768 01:21:29,686 --> 01:21:31,323 that we don't know the answer to. 1769 01:21:31,721 --> 01:21:34,997 [Elizabeth] I did bring an ion motor 1770 01:21:35,032 --> 01:21:36,559 that actually creates and generates 1771 01:21:36,594 --> 01:21:38,132 its own positive force field. 1772 01:21:38,167 --> 01:21:40,200 But it's a-- it's a pretty serious one. 1773 01:21:41,698 --> 01:21:43,500 Could be potentially dangerous. 1774 01:21:43,535 --> 01:21:45,106 [laughs] I don't know, 1775 01:21:45,141 --> 01:21:46,668 but I want to change the environment. 1776 01:21:46,703 --> 01:21:48,208 I want to see what it's like before. 1777 01:21:48,243 --> 01:21:50,408 And I want to see if you induce anything else 1778 01:21:50,443 --> 01:21:53,642 in the environment, if that also creates a change. 1779 01:21:53,677 --> 01:21:56,348 If activity increases. 1780 01:21:57,318 --> 01:21:58,251 I can smell it. 1781 01:22:01,520 --> 01:22:04,994 Can you tell me what street this house is on? 1782 01:22:08,395 --> 01:22:10,626 Can you tell us the name of the woman that lives here? 1783 01:22:10,661 --> 01:22:12,133 The woman that built this house? 1784 01:22:15,270 --> 01:22:16,731 [Elizabeth] Can you tell us what's going on 1785 01:22:16,766 --> 01:22:18,975 with the lights inside this house? 1786 01:22:21,507 --> 01:22:24,376 [Dustin] What is the object on the stairs that you move? 1787 01:22:26,776 --> 01:22:28,776 Two gentlemen that have investigated here 1788 01:22:28,811 --> 01:22:31,350 for 12, 13, 14 years. 1789 01:22:32,221 --> 01:22:33,990 Do you know either of their names? 1790 01:22:38,260 --> 01:22:40,491 [Elizabeth over recorder] Can you tell me what street 1791 01:22:40,526 --> 01:22:41,591 this house is on? 1792 01:22:41,626 --> 01:22:45,100 [faint crackling] 1793 01:22:45,135 --> 01:22:46,629 [Dustin over recorder] Could you tell us the name-- 1794 01:22:46,664 --> 01:22:48,565 I think he says "White Road." 1795 01:22:48,600 --> 01:22:50,765 [Elizabeth over recorder] Can you tell me what street 1796 01:22:50,800 --> 01:22:52,074 this house is on? 1797 01:22:52,109 --> 01:22:54,142 [faint crackling] 1798 01:22:54,177 --> 01:22:55,374 [distorted voice] 1799 01:22:55,409 --> 01:22:57,508 Yeah. It says, "White Road." 1800 01:22:57,543 --> 01:22:58,773 [Elizabeth over recorder] ...what street 1801 01:22:58,808 --> 01:23:00,049 this house is on? 1802 01:23:00,084 --> 01:23:02,381 [faint cracking] 1803 01:23:02,416 --> 01:23:03,646 -[voice] White Road. -[Dustin exhales] 1804 01:23:03,681 --> 01:23:04,779 [Dustin] ...the name 1805 01:23:04,814 --> 01:23:06,286 of the woman that lives here? 1806 01:23:06,321 --> 01:23:07,683 -The woman that built house? -What? 1807 01:23:07,718 --> 01:23:09,157 [Dustin] Can you tell us the name of the 1808 01:23:09,192 --> 01:23:10,323 woman that lives here? 1809 01:23:10,358 --> 01:23:11,724 The woman that built this house? 1810 01:23:11,760 --> 01:23:13,425 [Elizabeth over recorder] Can you tell us what's going on-- 1811 01:23:13,460 --> 01:23:14,393 Yikes. 1812 01:23:14,428 --> 01:23:15,790 [Dustin over recorder] What is the object 1813 01:23:15,825 --> 01:23:17,462 on the stairs that you move? 1814 01:23:17,497 --> 01:23:18,562 [faint voice] 1815 01:23:19,301 --> 01:23:20,597 He just said, "Ball" that time, yeah. 1816 01:23:20,632 --> 01:23:22,203 He just said, "Ball." 1817 01:23:22,238 --> 01:23:23,798 [Dustin over recorder] Two gentlemen that have 1818 01:23:23,833 --> 01:23:26,504 investigated here for 12, 13, 14 years. 1819 01:23:26,539 --> 01:23:28,176 Do you know either of their names? 1820 01:23:28,871 --> 01:23:30,145 [faint voice] 1821 01:23:30,180 --> 01:23:31,443 Did he say, "Jack?" 1822 01:23:32,314 --> 01:23:33,577 [Elizabeth] So now we're going to do 1823 01:23:33,612 --> 01:23:35,117 something a little different 1824 01:23:35,152 --> 01:23:38,549 and we're going to show you some cards. 1825 01:23:38,584 --> 01:23:40,155 Here is the first card. 1826 01:23:40,190 --> 01:23:41,486 Can you tell us what you see? 1827 01:23:41,521 --> 01:23:44,192 [eerie music] 1828 01:23:44,227 --> 01:23:46,425 We're going to show you the second card. 1829 01:23:47,131 --> 01:23:48,526 Tell us what you see. 1830 01:23:51,135 --> 01:23:54,070 Is it a number or is it a face card? 1831 01:23:57,207 --> 01:23:58,602 Here's the third card. 1832 01:24:01,607 --> 01:24:02,639 What color is it? 1833 01:24:04,874 --> 01:24:06,280 What number? 1834 01:24:09,714 --> 01:24:11,351 [Dustin] Putting down card three. 1835 01:24:13,751 --> 01:24:16,092 I'm going to show you card four, now. 1836 01:24:18,492 --> 01:24:21,493 Can you tell me what card Dustin is holding? 1837 01:24:27,897 --> 01:24:29,666 [Dustin] Putting down card four. 1838 01:24:29,701 --> 01:24:31,371 [Elizabeth over recorder] Here is the first card. 1839 01:24:31,406 --> 01:24:32,702 Can you tell us what you see? 1840 01:24:32,737 --> 01:24:35,408 [faint crackling] 1841 01:24:35,443 --> 01:24:37,311 We're going to show you the second card. 1842 01:24:37,346 --> 01:24:38,675 Tell us what you see. 1843 01:24:39,777 --> 01:24:41,645 [Dustin] I think he says it's four. 1844 01:24:41,680 --> 01:24:43,746 [Elizabeth over recorder] What color is it? 1845 01:24:43,781 --> 01:24:45,550 -What number? -[faint voice] 1846 01:24:45,585 --> 01:24:46,848 [both] Six. 1847 01:24:46,883 --> 01:24:49,224 -It literally said, "Six." -It's crazy. 1848 01:24:49,259 --> 01:24:50,621 [Elizabeth over recorder] I'm going to show you 1849 01:24:50,656 --> 01:24:52,227 card four, now. 1850 01:24:52,262 --> 01:24:54,229 Can you tell me what card Dustin is holding? 1851 01:24:54,264 --> 01:24:55,527 [faint voice] 1852 01:24:55,925 --> 01:24:57,496 [Dustin] Red ten? 1853 01:24:58,796 --> 01:25:01,236 [Elizabeth] But we got to play this again because-- 1854 01:25:01,271 --> 01:25:03,535 -[Dustin] This is ridiculous. -[Elizabeth] Bizarre. 1855 01:25:04,868 --> 01:25:07,440 I've never had 1856 01:25:07,475 --> 01:25:09,178 a communication response like, 1857 01:25:09,213 --> 01:25:10,674 with this blind study thing 1858 01:25:10,709 --> 01:25:12,346 that seemed to go that well. 1859 01:25:12,381 --> 01:25:14,249 No, but let's back off for a second 1860 01:25:14,284 --> 01:25:15,646 because it wasn't just that. 1861 01:25:15,681 --> 01:25:17,285 Like at the end, 1862 01:25:17,320 --> 01:25:19,254 we re-asked the same questions 1863 01:25:19,289 --> 01:25:21,619 -and we got clearer responses. -Clearer answers. 1864 01:25:21,654 --> 01:25:22,686 Oh, crap. 1865 01:25:26,329 --> 01:25:28,164 [Dustin] Yeah. White Road. Alice. 1866 01:25:28,496 --> 01:25:30,265 Said something about their names. 1867 01:25:30,300 --> 01:25:31,596 I couldn't pick it up. I thought it said, "Jack." 1868 01:25:32,500 --> 01:25:33,565 [Brad] Jack. 1869 01:25:36,636 --> 01:25:38,471 [John] Heard, "White Road." I heard, "Alice." 1870 01:25:38,506 --> 01:25:39,934 -[Alice] Oh, they did? -I heard white-- 1871 01:25:39,969 --> 01:25:41,606 They got "White Road," they got, "Alice." 1872 01:25:41,641 --> 01:25:43,509 White Road, damn. That's where I live. 1873 01:25:43,544 --> 01:25:45,280 I mean, damn, that's getting personal. 1874 01:25:46,580 --> 01:25:48,580 [Elizabeth over recorder] Here's the third card. 1875 01:25:48,615 --> 01:25:50,384 What color is it? 1876 01:25:50,419 --> 01:25:51,946 -What number? -[faint voice] 1877 01:25:51,981 --> 01:25:54,520 [Elizabeth] Six. That you hear very clearly. 1878 01:25:54,555 --> 01:25:57,325 -[Dustin] Six, six. -[Alice] Did he say, "Six?" 1879 01:25:57,360 --> 01:25:58,953 Getting direct responses to the card-- 1880 01:25:58,988 --> 01:26:00,021 [Alice] [indistinct]. 1881 01:26:01,595 --> 01:26:03,529 [Elizabeth over recorder] Here's the third card. 1882 01:26:03,564 --> 01:26:05,432 -What color is it? -[faint voice] 1883 01:26:05,467 --> 01:26:06,895 -[Elizabeth] What number? -[both] Red six. 1884 01:26:06,930 --> 01:26:08,600 [Elizabeth] Six. 1885 01:26:08,635 --> 01:26:09,964 [Elizabeth over recorder] I'm going to show you 1886 01:26:09,999 --> 01:26:11,306 card four now. 1887 01:26:11,341 --> 01:26:12,637 -That's so wild. -This is insane. 1888 01:26:12,672 --> 01:26:14,309 [Elizabeth] Can you tell me what card 1889 01:26:14,344 --> 01:26:15,409 -Dustin is holding? -[faint voice] 1890 01:26:15,444 --> 01:26:16,575 Red ten. 1891 01:26:16,610 --> 01:26:18,445 But you don't really get the impact of it 1892 01:26:18,480 --> 01:26:21,481 because it's like-- you know, there's a conscious being, 1893 01:26:21,516 --> 01:26:25,221 invisible-- invisible, conscious being in your room. 1894 01:26:25,652 --> 01:26:27,322 I mean, really, that's a little unnerving. 1895 01:26:27,357 --> 01:26:28,719 I mean, really, you just go take a shower. 1896 01:26:28,754 --> 01:26:30,556 You think, "Who is watching me take a shower?" 1897 01:26:30,591 --> 01:26:32,426 I mean, really, you do, because something's there. 1898 01:26:32,461 --> 01:26:34,230 Some-- something's there. 1899 01:26:36,795 --> 01:26:37,959 Last time we got baseball, 1900 01:26:37,994 --> 01:26:39,433 which was great by itself. 1901 01:26:39,468 --> 01:26:40,929 -[Elizabeth] Right. -But now it was 1902 01:26:40,964 --> 01:26:42,502 every question pretty much had an answer, every card-- 1903 01:26:42,537 --> 01:26:43,932 Even if we couldn't make it out. 1904 01:26:43,967 --> 01:26:45,373 Yeah. 1905 01:26:45,408 --> 01:26:47,408 -The cards are wild, though. -Yeah. 1906 01:26:47,443 --> 01:26:49,344 [Dustin] Yeah, like, it just-- it just blows my mind. 1907 01:26:49,379 --> 01:26:52,006 Of all the years doing this, like I've never had-- 1908 01:26:52,041 --> 01:26:53,975 I mean, you're lucky if you get an EVP. 1909 01:26:54,010 --> 01:26:56,483 [laughs] It's still pretty good. 1910 01:26:56,947 --> 01:26:59,915 So much more could be found out, 1911 01:26:59,950 --> 01:27:01,785 explored, experimented with. 1912 01:27:01,820 --> 01:27:04,887 You know, if we were just open to the idea 1913 01:27:04,922 --> 01:27:07,428 of incorporating science into the mix. 1914 01:27:07,463 --> 01:27:09,793 I think one of the nice things about the Mississippi house 1915 01:27:09,828 --> 01:27:12,664 of Alice's house is it allows for that to happen. 1916 01:27:13,095 --> 01:27:15,403 Because it's been documented long enough 1917 01:27:15,438 --> 01:27:18,307 where it's not just some crazy story. 1918 01:27:18,342 --> 01:27:20,507 I think that's the-- the nice thing about it. 1919 01:27:21,708 --> 01:27:23,741 [night din] 1920 01:27:25,580 --> 01:27:26,678 [knocking] 1921 01:27:29,551 --> 01:27:30,616 Hello. 1922 01:27:30,915 --> 01:27:32,387 [Laurie] My name's Laurie McDonald. 1923 01:27:32,422 --> 01:27:34,389 I'm a certified clinical hypnotherapist 1924 01:27:34,424 --> 01:27:37,953 at True You Hypnotherapy in Sacramento, California. 1925 01:27:38,692 --> 01:27:41,462 So, you tell me where you want me. 1926 01:27:41,497 --> 01:27:44,058 [Laurie] So my purpose in coming here 1927 01:27:44,093 --> 01:27:46,863 is to facilitate a process 1928 01:27:46,898 --> 01:27:48,931 that will allow Alice 1929 01:27:48,966 --> 01:27:50,669 to feel that sense of ease 1930 01:27:50,704 --> 01:27:54,541 and to be able to take possession of her own home. 1931 01:27:54,576 --> 01:27:59,579 ♪ 1932 01:28:01,451 --> 01:28:02,912 We'll begin 1933 01:28:02,947 --> 01:28:04,782 the way I always begin 1934 01:28:04,817 --> 01:28:07,554 by just having you take some long, deep 1935 01:28:07,589 --> 01:28:09,985 rhythmic breaths in through the nose 1936 01:28:10,020 --> 01:28:11,591 and out through the mouth. 1937 01:28:12,858 --> 01:28:14,121 And in a moment, 1938 01:28:14,156 --> 01:28:15,859 I'm going to count backwards. 1939 01:28:16,697 --> 01:28:19,962 Ten, seven. Twice as deep now. 1940 01:28:19,997 --> 01:28:23,471 On five, on three... 1941 01:28:24,606 --> 01:28:25,671 two... 1942 01:28:26,168 --> 01:28:27,607 and one. 1943 01:28:28,742 --> 01:28:30,709 We're going to go back to a time 1944 01:28:30,744 --> 01:28:32,480 when you awoke 1945 01:28:32,515 --> 01:28:35,714 and saw a very specific light. 1946 01:28:35,749 --> 01:28:36,946 See that now. 1947 01:28:38,488 --> 01:28:40,983 It-- it-- it came on with a-- 1948 01:28:41,018 --> 01:28:43,557 With a flash in an instant. 1949 01:28:44,021 --> 01:28:47,528 I just, totally unexpected. 1950 01:28:48,630 --> 01:28:51,158 Everything else in the room was black. 1951 01:28:51,193 --> 01:28:53,963 Total black. Very black. 1952 01:28:55,769 --> 01:28:58,000 What if it turns toward me? What happens? 1953 01:28:58,035 --> 01:28:59,804 I mean, it-- it-- 1954 01:29:00,136 --> 01:29:01,674 And what is its purpose? 1955 01:29:04,107 --> 01:29:06,481 [stuttering] 1956 01:29:06,516 --> 01:29:08,747 That-- I just happened to be there. 1957 01:29:08,782 --> 01:29:11,684 I don't think it-- its intent was to appear to me. 1958 01:29:11,719 --> 01:29:14,786 Do you sense in this light... 1959 01:29:15,525 --> 01:29:16,887 -intelligence? -[Alice] Uh-huh. 1960 01:29:18,220 --> 01:29:20,154 Not that the light's conscious 1961 01:29:20,189 --> 01:29:21,628 but that the... 1962 01:29:22,664 --> 01:29:24,466 governing of the light is. 1963 01:29:24,501 --> 01:29:25,995 So, the light's coming from a source? 1964 01:29:26,030 --> 01:29:27,194 Yeah. 1965 01:29:27,229 --> 01:29:30,901 Just, uh-- just intelligence, like-- 1966 01:29:31,200 --> 01:29:33,673 like intelligent, um... 1967 01:29:36,007 --> 01:29:38,513 beings, maybe a group. 1968 01:29:39,648 --> 01:29:43,584 Or something they're-- they're intently interested in. 1969 01:29:45,951 --> 01:29:47,753 Sense into the light 1970 01:29:47,788 --> 01:29:50,085 and try to sense 1971 01:29:50,120 --> 01:29:51,922 their intent. 1972 01:29:51,957 --> 01:29:56,993 ♪ 1973 01:30:02,770 --> 01:30:04,066 [Alice] Whatever they were doing, 1974 01:30:04,101 --> 01:30:06,805 it seemed very important. 1975 01:30:06,840 --> 01:30:09,808 It's like they were all gathered around. 1976 01:30:13,176 --> 01:30:16,782 observing something beneath the earth. 1977 01:30:17,521 --> 01:30:19,213 Who's the outcome important to? 1978 01:30:19,248 --> 01:30:20,819 -[Alice] To them. -To them. 1979 01:30:22,625 --> 01:30:25,219 And is there anything else 1980 01:30:25,254 --> 01:30:27,826 about this particular light 1981 01:30:27,861 --> 01:30:30,928 that we need to know about or you're... 1982 01:30:33,097 --> 01:30:34,635 pretty comfortable? 1983 01:30:38,608 --> 01:30:40,003 [Alice] Yeah. I'm-- I'm-- I'm-- 1984 01:30:41,776 --> 01:30:44,942 Yeah, I think the light was just a means, 1985 01:30:44,977 --> 01:30:47,813 that there was no particular meaning. 1986 01:30:48,145 --> 01:30:50,112 I'm very, very happy to hear that. 1987 01:30:50,147 --> 01:30:53,247 Because you are removed from it 1988 01:30:53,282 --> 01:30:54,787 from this moment forward 1989 01:30:54,822 --> 01:30:56,723 and for the rest of your life... 1990 01:30:57,286 --> 01:30:58,725 removed from it. 1991 01:30:58,760 --> 01:31:00,859 Through eliminating fear, 1992 01:31:00,894 --> 01:31:04,258 we're opening up other avenues of energy, 1993 01:31:04,293 --> 01:31:05,897 like curiosity. 1994 01:31:06,295 --> 01:31:07,833 And that's much healthier 1995 01:31:07,868 --> 01:31:10,297 and puts her in a place of personal empowerment. 1996 01:31:10,332 --> 01:31:12,805 So, I want you to take a really deep breath now. 1997 01:31:14,336 --> 01:31:17,513 -Just really exhale. -[exhales sharply] 1998 01:31:18,241 --> 01:31:20,175 And I want you to really feel 1999 01:31:20,210 --> 01:31:22,617 how good it is to know 2000 01:31:22,652 --> 01:31:25,048 that you don't have to be afraid of that anymore. 2001 01:31:27,118 --> 01:31:28,249 And let it all go. 2002 01:31:28,284 --> 01:31:31,318 [emotional piano instrumental] 2003 01:31:31,353 --> 01:31:32,990 And how does that feel? 2004 01:31:35,632 --> 01:31:37,599 I-- I do feel, um, 2005 01:31:37,634 --> 01:31:40,195 separated more from it. 2006 01:31:40,230 --> 01:31:43,264 So, coming back now on one, 2007 01:31:43,299 --> 01:31:45,937 two, taking a deep breath on three. 2008 01:31:46,808 --> 01:31:48,973 Wiggling the toes on four. 2009 01:31:49,008 --> 01:31:51,646 -[Alice] Uh-huh. -[Laurie] Eyes open five. 2010 01:31:52,110 --> 01:31:54,616 -Okay. -[Laurie] Very good. 2011 01:31:56,378 --> 01:31:58,246 [Steve] I mean, the ultimate goal here 2012 01:31:58,281 --> 01:32:00,787 is to get Alice comfortable in the house, 2013 01:32:00,822 --> 01:32:02,283 to get her to stay here. 2014 01:32:02,318 --> 01:32:03,691 It would be awesome 2015 01:32:03,726 --> 01:32:05,121 if she could live here full time. 2016 01:32:05,156 --> 01:32:06,320 But right now, 2017 01:32:06,355 --> 01:32:07,992 she's not living here full time. 2018 01:32:08,027 --> 01:32:10,665 Obviously, she won't even sleep here alone at night. 2019 01:32:10,700 --> 01:32:12,931 But I want to take it in steps, if I can. 2020 01:32:12,966 --> 01:32:15,670 If we can get her in the house for a night 2021 01:32:15,705 --> 01:32:17,232 and then maybe that one night 2022 01:32:17,267 --> 01:32:18,805 will turn into a few nights. 2023 01:32:18,840 --> 01:32:21,071 And maybe the few nights will turn into a week. 2024 01:32:21,106 --> 01:32:22,369 That week becomes a month 2025 01:32:22,404 --> 01:32:24,646 and now she's in the house full time. 2026 01:32:24,681 --> 01:32:26,340 Tonight, anyway, 2027 01:32:26,375 --> 01:32:29,651 I wanted to get your feeling... 2028 01:32:30,412 --> 01:32:33,215 uh, on-- on, uh-- on the house 2029 01:32:33,250 --> 01:32:35,382 and on where we're sort of at. 2030 01:32:35,417 --> 01:32:37,351 Well, we spoke to the team 2031 01:32:37,386 --> 01:32:40,189 and they're, you know, on standby 2032 01:32:40,224 --> 01:32:42,290 in case you're okay with this. 2033 01:32:42,325 --> 01:32:45,293 But we are wondering if maybe tonight 2034 01:32:45,328 --> 01:32:46,833 might be a night you might be 2035 01:32:46,868 --> 01:32:48,868 willing to sleep in the house. 2036 01:32:48,903 --> 01:32:51,332 You know, I've actually been thinking about that 2037 01:32:51,367 --> 01:32:53,169 since the hypnosis 2038 01:32:53,204 --> 01:32:54,973 because for some reason, 2039 01:32:55,008 --> 01:32:56,843 you know, it wasn't what I expected. 2040 01:32:56,878 --> 01:32:59,340 I expected that I would have to relive that experience 2041 01:32:59,375 --> 01:33:01,276 but it wasn't that at all. 2042 01:33:01,311 --> 01:33:03,377 You know, it was actually 2043 01:33:03,412 --> 01:33:05,687 getting out of that experience. 2044 01:33:05,722 --> 01:33:09,152 And so I feel like I can watch it 2045 01:33:09,187 --> 01:33:10,384 from a distance. 2046 01:33:10,419 --> 01:33:11,924 -[Steve] That's interesting. -Yeah. 2047 01:33:11,959 --> 01:33:13,695 You know, I'll sleep with my flashlight 2048 01:33:13,730 --> 01:33:15,290 and, um, I'm good. 2049 01:33:15,325 --> 01:33:17,160 -I'll-- I'll try to do it. -[Steve] You're thinking-- 2050 01:33:17,195 --> 01:33:18,392 -Uh-huh. -[Steve] Really? 2051 01:33:18,427 --> 01:33:19,734 I think that she knows that this is 2052 01:33:19,769 --> 01:33:21,736 the first step for her 2053 01:33:21,771 --> 01:33:24,266 to be able to live in the house 2054 01:33:24,301 --> 01:33:26,906 and be able to be here full time. 2055 01:33:26,941 --> 01:33:28,809 I don't necessarily think that, you know, 2056 01:33:28,844 --> 01:33:30,745 the activity is going to fully stop. 2057 01:33:30,780 --> 01:33:33,407 And if we weren't able to ever get her 2058 01:33:33,442 --> 01:33:35,013 back inside the house, 2059 01:33:35,048 --> 01:33:37,686 I wouldn't consider that a failure. 2060 01:33:37,721 --> 01:33:39,149 She has so much more confidence 2061 01:33:39,184 --> 01:33:41,822 and I think that that's a major stepping stone. 2062 01:33:42,187 --> 01:33:44,191 [piano instrumental] 2063 01:33:48,061 --> 01:33:49,324 I'm on speed dial. 2064 01:33:49,359 --> 01:33:51,194 [Alice] Oh, you're so sweet. Thank you. 2065 01:33:51,229 --> 01:33:56,232 ♪ 2066 01:33:56,267 --> 01:34:00,676 [crickets chirping] 2067 01:34:03,010 --> 01:34:04,372 [indistinct] 2068 01:34:04,407 --> 01:34:06,308 I'll see you all hopefully in the morning. 2069 01:34:06,343 --> 01:34:07,375 [Kendall] Okay. 2070 01:34:07,410 --> 01:34:12,846 ♪ 2071 01:34:16,925 --> 01:34:20,388 [indistinct chatter] 2072 01:34:20,423 --> 01:34:25,833 ♪ 2073 01:34:55,227 --> 01:35:00,263 ♪ 2074 01:35:11,243 --> 01:35:12,275 Oh, yeah. 2075 01:35:12,816 --> 01:35:15,047 [indistinct chatter] 2076 01:35:15,082 --> 01:35:20,118 ♪ 2077 01:35:24,520 --> 01:35:26,894 [birds chirp] 2078 01:35:26,929 --> 01:35:31,965 ♪ 2079 01:35:42,571 --> 01:35:44,978 [John] You know, she slept in the house. 2080 01:35:45,376 --> 01:35:46,474 She slept in the house. 2081 01:35:47,048 --> 01:35:48,916 In a decade, she hadn't done that. 2082 01:35:48,951 --> 01:35:51,347 The thing I remember is the next morning, 2083 01:35:51,382 --> 01:35:54,383 walking in the door and just smelling coffee. 2084 01:35:55,122 --> 01:35:58,024 She was waking up, making coffee in her house. 2085 01:35:58,059 --> 01:36:00,059 That just hit me in a different way. 2086 01:36:00,094 --> 01:36:01,159 It was neat. 2087 01:36:07,233 --> 01:36:09,563 I think it's a natural response sometimes 2088 01:36:09,598 --> 01:36:11,334 to be afraid of what you can't explain. 2089 01:36:11,369 --> 01:36:13,600 You have a right to have your feelings validated. 2090 01:36:13,635 --> 01:36:16,570 But you also, if you truly want to 2091 01:36:16,605 --> 01:36:18,044 understand that fear, 2092 01:36:18,079 --> 01:36:19,573 you have to explore it. 2093 01:36:19,608 --> 01:36:21,883 You have to walk through that fear. 2094 01:36:21,918 --> 01:36:23,885 You have to confront your fear. 2095 01:36:23,920 --> 01:36:25,117 Because something to remember 2096 01:36:25,152 --> 01:36:26,481 and I think that's very important, 2097 01:36:26,516 --> 01:36:30,221 is sometimes we don't acknowledge 2098 01:36:30,256 --> 01:36:31,585 our own personal power. 2099 01:36:31,620 --> 01:36:34,027 It's not easy 2100 01:36:34,062 --> 01:36:35,523 to change the way we see things. 2101 01:36:35,558 --> 01:36:37,162 It's not easy to change our perspective. 2102 01:36:37,197 --> 01:36:39,593 It takes practice, it takes time, it takes work. 2103 01:36:40,101 --> 01:36:42,134 And this is our duty, our responsibilities 2104 01:36:42,169 --> 01:36:44,103 and obligation of being human. 2105 01:36:44,468 --> 01:36:46,072 This is what we do best. 2106 01:36:46,470 --> 01:36:47,535 We learn. 2107 01:36:47,570 --> 01:36:51,011 ♪ 2108 01:36:51,046 --> 01:36:52,078 [Alice] Uh, you know, Shakespeare said, 2109 01:36:52,113 --> 01:36:53,607 "To thine own self be true." 2110 01:36:53,642 --> 01:36:55,048 And then that can't speak thoughts 2111 01:36:55,083 --> 01:36:57,347 to any man-- To your own self be true. 2112 01:36:57,382 --> 01:37:00,614 And it would have been against my own truth 2113 01:37:00,649 --> 01:37:02,858 to have moved out or to sell it. 2114 01:37:04,125 --> 01:37:06,620 [Steve] What Kendall and I set out to do 2115 01:37:06,655 --> 01:37:09,623 was to get Alice back into her house. 2116 01:37:09,658 --> 01:37:11,999 And that happened. She spent a night here. 2117 01:37:12,034 --> 01:37:13,869 And she woke up happy. 2118 01:37:15,004 --> 01:37:17,433 And Alice has turned this whole thing... 2119 01:37:18,469 --> 01:37:19,633 to work for her. 2120 01:37:19,668 --> 01:37:22,977 And I just think that is remarkable. 2121 01:37:23,012 --> 01:37:25,045 I think her attitude is perfect. 2122 01:37:25,575 --> 01:37:27,608 And the fact that she's already 2123 01:37:27,643 --> 01:37:30,017 making steps to staying back in her home. 2124 01:37:30,052 --> 01:37:32,283 She's taking that fear away 2125 01:37:32,318 --> 01:37:35,220 and she's replacing it with courage 2126 01:37:35,255 --> 01:37:37,893 and dedication to getting answers. 2127 01:37:38,555 --> 01:37:41,556 She says she wants to further the field and I think she has. 2128 01:37:42,130 --> 01:37:44,658 And I don't think that's ever been done before. 2129 01:37:44,693 --> 01:37:47,067 So I'm kind of feeling like 2130 01:37:47,102 --> 01:37:49,234 this is the most thorough, 2131 01:37:49,269 --> 01:37:51,533 in-depth, paranormal investigation 2132 01:37:51,568 --> 01:37:54,371 that has ever been documented. 2133 01:37:54,406 --> 01:37:59,442 ♪ 2134 01:38:03,712 --> 01:38:05,712 [night din] 2135 01:38:05,747 --> 01:38:09,056 [dramatic music] 2136 01:38:09,091 --> 01:38:11,355 And I say 'when," not "if," 2137 01:38:11,390 --> 01:38:13,423 because that carriage will come down. 2138 01:38:13,458 --> 01:38:14,523 You can mark my words. 2139 01:38:14,558 --> 01:38:15,557 I've been saying it before 2140 01:38:15,592 --> 01:38:16,965 you guys even got here 2141 01:38:17,000 --> 01:38:18,296 and you're going to hear it now. 2142 01:38:18,331 --> 01:38:20,133 I have no reason to have the full confidence 2143 01:38:20,168 --> 01:38:21,662 but I do have the full confidence. 2144 01:38:21,697 --> 01:38:23,334 The carriage is coming down the stairs. 2145 01:38:25,734 --> 01:38:28,075 Any intelligent spirits that are in the house. 2146 01:38:28,704 --> 01:38:30,737 Focus your energy on that carriage 2147 01:38:30,772 --> 01:38:32,574 that I placed at the top of the stairs and you have 2148 01:38:32,609 --> 01:38:35,951 our full permission to push it down the stairs. 2149 01:38:36,745 --> 01:38:38,679 So, please focus your energy. 2150 01:38:38,714 --> 01:38:41,088 I know you can without a doubt, 2151 01:38:41,123 --> 01:38:43,156 and push that carriage down the stairs. 2152 01:38:47,723 --> 01:38:49,063 [clatters] 2153 01:38:49,098 --> 01:38:50,328 -Good? -[Kendall] Great job. 2154 01:38:50,363 --> 01:38:52,000 -All right. -[Kendall] Wonderful job. 2155 01:38:52,035 --> 01:38:53,331 Carriage is coming down. 2156 01:38:53,366 --> 01:38:54,728 [Kendall] Let's, uh-- let's just hold on, 2157 01:38:54,763 --> 01:38:56,268 uh, [indistinct]. 2158 01:38:56,303 --> 01:38:58,468 [muffled, indistinct talking] 2159 01:39:04,113 --> 01:39:06,179 All right, I'm going to arm it so... 2160 01:39:07,347 --> 01:39:08,379 30 on here. 2161 01:39:08,414 --> 01:39:10,216 [beeping] 2162 01:39:10,251 --> 01:39:11,448 -All right. -[robotic voice] [indistinct] 2163 01:39:11,483 --> 01:39:13,153 away. Exit now. 2164 01:39:13,188 --> 01:39:18,257 [rhythmic beeping] 2165 01:39:27,631 --> 01:39:32,007 [rapid beeping] 2166 01:39:38,081 --> 01:39:39,509 [robotic voice] Far away. 2167 01:39:39,544 --> 01:39:41,544 [eerie instrumental] 2168 01:39:41,579 --> 01:39:46,615 ♪ 2169 01:40:16,647 --> 01:40:22,057 ♪ 2170 01:40:51,352 --> 01:40:56,520 [pleasant instrumental] 2171 01:41:31,557 --> 01:41:36,593 ♪ 2172 01:42:11,564 --> 01:42:16,600 ♪ 2173 01:42:18,472 --> 01:42:20,406 [music ends] 150823

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