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I was never so proud to
be a fireman as I was that day.
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Our orders were to go
upstairs in the North Tower
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for a search and rescue.
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So, we were going to pull as
many people out as we could,
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that's what we were gonna do.
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And we got to the 27th floor
when we felt and experienced
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something that nobody had ever
felt or experienced before.
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We heard a loud noise outside,
our building shook violently,
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so violent that, that you
had a hard time standing up,
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you know, it was like
you were on a ship at sea;
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the South Tower had collapsed.
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And, in my mind,
this was the scariest
part of the day for me.
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I knew prior to this day a
high rise building had never
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collapsed after a fire,
and now the sister building
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to the one I was in,
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that got hit after
my building, was down.
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I did the quick calculations
in my mind and I says,
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alright, if that one can go,
this one can go,
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it's time for us
to get outta here.
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So, we start our retreat
down the B stairway
of the North Tower.
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We got to around
the 20th floor and
there was a woman
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standing in a doorway,
she was crying,
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and my guy stopped
and Tommy Falco,
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one of my firemen, turns
around and looks at me,
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he says, "Hey Captain,
what'd you wanna do with her?"
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And she literally
couldn't walk anymore,
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she'd made it
down from the 70s,
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I think the 73rd floor.
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We didn't know it at the time,
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she was one week shy
of her 60th birthday,
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so we continued our evacuation
with Josephine Harris in tow.
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We were carrying her
down the stairs, slowly.
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We were going so slowly that a
couple of times we had to step
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aside because we created a
log‐jam of people behind us,
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so we had to let them pass.
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And made it to
the tenth floor,
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I'm thinking, wow, we
might actually get outta here.
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And then Josephine Harris
fell to the floor on
the fourth floor.
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And she starts yelling
at us to leave her.
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And, uh, the collapse
of the North Tower starts
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with us still inside.
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Let's get in here!
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Get away from the glass.
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Oh my
is out there.
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My is out there.
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You wanna die?
Don't worry about it.
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The whole building.
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Watch the debris
come down the street.
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Don't open the door, please.
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Get away
from the windows.
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Oh my God.
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Look at the
shadow of death!
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Oh my God!
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You're right, oh my God,
you saved my life!
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You saved my life!
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Thank you!
Thank you!
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Thank you.
Thank you.
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Thank you, thank you!
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Oh my God! Thank you.
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Thank you. Thank you.
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I remember
looking up into the dust.
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And I remember thinking to
myself I'm the last person
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left on the planet.
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I don't hear anybody.
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I don't see anybody.
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I am completely alone.
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I am this huge
feeling of being empty.
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As I'm looking around there's
cars that are destroyed.
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There was an
ambulance on fire.
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I really thought this
was it, this was the end,
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this was the end of the world,
this was the Armageddon.
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So I remember grabbing a hose
line that was laying on the
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floor and I actually put out
the fire in the ambulance.
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And the dust started to lift.
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I, I couldn't believe
what I was actually seeing.
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Both buildings were gone.
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And now it's just seven story
pile of debris and garbage and
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there were people in there.
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And I'm thinking to myself
there's no way that we're
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gonna find people that
survived this collapse.
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The collapse
started from the top down.
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And every time a floor
would hit another floor,
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collapsing what we
call, pancake fashion,
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it would create a
loud noise, a loud boom,
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so it was boom,
boom, boom, boom.
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And every time a floor would
hit another floor there'd be a
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tremendous vibration in the building.
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Whatever air was in the
stairway was being compressed
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and it was filled with debris,
so we were getting pummeled
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with debris as we were
covering up and, uh, we just
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waited for that big beam or
that big piece of concrete to
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come and get us.
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And then the collapsed
stopped and it didn't come.
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And, uh, so I gave
a shout out, I said,
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"Who's still here?
Who do I hear?
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Who do I have?"
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Turns out all my
guys from Ladder 6,
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Tommy Falco, Sal D'Agostino,
Billy Butler and Mike Meldrom,
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we had Mickey Kross, who was
a Lieutenant in Engine 16.
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I think it took
about eight seconds for
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the building to come down.
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It was a tremendous
noise and tremendous raw,
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tremendous vibrating
and within a few seconds
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it was over, and it went
to total, absolute silence,
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no more shaking,
absolutely no noise.
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Having no
experience being dead,
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you don't know what it's like,
so I thought I could possibly
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be dead 'cause
I couldn't feel,
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I couldn't feel my body,
I couldn't feel anything.
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And after a few seconds
I heard talking so,
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I yelled out and
we all got together.
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It was between
the third, I think,
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between the third and fourth
floors was still in tact.
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We were in a void.
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You know, it was the fact
that Josephine stopped there,
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you know, there weren't
many voids in that building,
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and we found a void
because even if you made
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it to the ground floor,
you didn't make it.
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If you made it just
outside the building,
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you didn't make it.
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We looked
around for a way out.
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A couple of guys had tools
and they were forcing what was
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left of the stairway door, and
they opened it and it was just
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a wall of debris so,
we realized there wasn't
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a thing we could do.
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We're not getting outta this.
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There's no up, down,
to the side, no way.
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The only way
we're gonna get out if
somebody comes and gets us.
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FIREFIGHTER
We're gonna regroup
on Murray Street.
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Does anybody have
Al Tori with them?
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Jesus Christ.
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Right after the collapse,
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miraculously we regrouped
with everybody in the company.
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We realized that, um,
we possibly could be like,
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one of the last companies that
kinda made it outta that area.
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Your gonna upload it?
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Yeah.
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Here, take a white rag.
You need a white rag?
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And before
it collapsed we were
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coming down the B stairwell
in the North Tower,
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and, um, I remember speaking
to, uh, Captain Jonas,
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who was Captain of Six Truck.
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So then it was,
"Well, where is Six Truck?"
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They were at least three
to four floors above us.
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FIREFIGHTER
247, 246.
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Where are the guys?
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I have no idea.
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So, we
were like, oh man,
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gotta try to get back in
there and try to find them.
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You know where he is?
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And then we went
to go make our way back in.
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But, that area
that we just came
from wasn't there anymore.
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I'm on channel one.
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Everything was
like completely destroyed.
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It tore a part
of my heart out,
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like, you just feel like you
got ripped on the insides.
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And you have this feeling
of helplessness because
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you don't know where to start.
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REPORTER
Live, continuing coverage
here on 1010 Wins,
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the horrible tragedy of
the World Trade Center.
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How off it looked to
see those two twin towers,
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so much a part of our
landscape, disappear.
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But then now to keep in mind
there were people inside those
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buildings and
many did not get out.
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When you have
something like this you think,
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well, death toll
and casualties,
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that's something we simply
don't know because in many
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respects the rescue effort is
really just getting started.
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1010 Wins reporter...
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We were
planning for the worst,
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planning for
a long entrapment,
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maybe a couple of days, try to
conserve our radio batteries,
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our flashlight batteries.
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I didn't want my guys to use
their air masks but during
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that time received a
mayday from Mark Warcola
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the Lieutenant from
Ladder Five that we had
seen on the way down,
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and he said he was in the,
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the B stairway
on the 12th floor
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he was trapped
and he was hurt bad.
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So Sal D'Agostino turned
around and looked at me,
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he says, "Hey Cap,
did you get that?"
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I said, "Yeah, I got it."
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And I started
climbing the B stairway.
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And the stairways there
is filled with rubble,
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it was like a real
bad vacant building
stairway but it was there.
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So, I could climb
up the bannister and
maneuver my way around.
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And then a second
mayday came in when I was
on the fifth floor for him.
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And again, I'm trying
to maneuver my way around.
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And I got to the half landing
between the fifth and the
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sixth floor and I couldn't
move the debris anymore;
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it was too heavy.
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And he gave a third mayday
which was more distraught and
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I just said, "Sorry,
Mike, I can't help you."
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It was terrible.
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Here's somebody we know and
he's calling for our help and
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we can't help him.
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You know, we
couldn't get to him.
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And then we didn't
hear from him anymore.
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Yeah, finally I
transmitted my own mayday.
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FIREFIGHTER
Go on with
the mayday, go ahead.
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MAN Okay, 10‐4.
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When we kinda all
heard them on the radio,
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I remember myself, personally,
I kinda just dropped down onto
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one knee and kissed the
metal that was around my neck.
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It was a feeling
of elation that,
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okay, there's a chance here.
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I started getting radio
transmissions from other guys
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that I knew, some of them
were some of my best friends.
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A very close friend of
mine was Nick Visconti.
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And he got put in charge
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of the rescue effort
to find us
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and I talked to him
on the radio and, uh...
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it was great
hearing his voice.
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Ladder 6.
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Tower one.
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Stairwell B. There's
also a wounded civilian
and chief on the first floor.
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It's the love
of your fellow firemen
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coming to save you.
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I thought to myself, you know,
there's gotta be people who
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are much worse off than I am.
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I'm not worthy of this.
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But I had this
army of firefighters
coming to find me.
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And it was humbling.
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Take any
gear we can carry,
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especially First Aid stuff.
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Then I heard from my
neighbor, Cliff Staffner,
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"Rescue Three to Ladder Six,
Captain J. Jonas,
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this is Cliff, I'm coming
to get ya, where are ya?"
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And I tell him.
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And he would end every
transmission by saying,
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"I'm coming for ya, brother,
I'm coming for ya."
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STAFFNER We're
coming for ya, brother,
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we're coming for ya.
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FIREFIGHTER
Liberty, we have your
command post.
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FIREFIGHTER
Go ahead.
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REPORTER
This is still very much
an active scene right now.
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I've seen dozens upon dozens
of firefighters getting to the
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World Trade Center area.
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They're trying
to get together and go
back in there and try
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to take care of the
people who obviously
are in serious trouble.
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There's no other
way to describe it.
242
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Did you already go in?
243
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What?
Did you go in?
244
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I was there, yeah.
245
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Are you going back?
246
00:19:50,966 --> 00:19:53,135
It's my job.
247
00:19:59,742 --> 00:20:02,644
New York City firefighters
have this special bond.
248
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This level of being,
of belonging.
249
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We become a second family.
250
00:20:16,959 --> 00:20:20,596
No matter what happens,
if you feel threatened,
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if you feel afraid in a fire,
these guys will tear down the
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building to get to you.
253
00:20:26,101 --> 00:20:28,904
They will do everything in
their power to get to you.
254
00:20:30,839 --> 00:20:33,308
We don't
leave a brother behind.
255
00:20:52,394 --> 00:20:54,029
Oh my God, I've
never seen anything like this
256
00:20:54,029 --> 00:20:56,665
in my entire life.
257
00:21:00,335 --> 00:21:04,339
There's debris
for miles, blocks.
258
00:21:08,310 --> 00:21:09,411
There could be
people under here,
259
00:21:09,411 --> 00:21:11,613
but again, this was a plaza...
260
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We were gonna try to
advance into this debris field
261
00:21:18,554 --> 00:21:20,722
trying to locate Ladder Six.
262
00:21:20,722 --> 00:21:22,891
It's the top
of the building.
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00:21:23,325 --> 00:21:25,761
And when we got
there it was just...
264
00:21:25,761 --> 00:21:27,596
there was, there was no
way to get through it,
265
00:21:27,596 --> 00:21:31,266
it was just solid concrete,
rebar and steel.
266
00:21:41,009 --> 00:21:43,011
On top of that,
while we were in there,
267
00:21:43,011 --> 00:21:45,480
stuff was starting
to collapse again.
268
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MAN Come back!
Come back.
269
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Get everybody out.
270
00:22:00,929 --> 00:22:02,664
You know, these piles
were unstable and as you're
271
00:22:02,664 --> 00:22:06,301
going into them now they're
still starting to like,
272
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have secondary and third
collapses on these piles.
273
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It was almost like
standing in the ocean.
274
00:22:26,989 --> 00:22:30,225
Initially,
we were really optimistic.
275
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But now we had this
greater sense of how
are we gonna find them?
276
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Everybody was scared
because we could hear fires
277
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crackling outside.
278
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And at one point,
279
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there was an explosion nearby,
280
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and um, it shook the stairway
281
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and it caused
some debris to fall and
282
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it was striking us.
283
00:23:18,774 --> 00:23:21,276
And Josephine, you know,
started crying out that
284
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she was scared.
285
00:23:22,511 --> 00:23:23,979
And I said, "Yeah,
we're all a little scared,
286
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darling, hang in there."
287
00:23:25,948 --> 00:23:30,152
But when that happened,
288
00:23:31,453 --> 00:23:33,755
Mike Meldrom, my senior guy,
289
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my chauffeur, he rolled
his body on top of hers
290
00:23:39,795 --> 00:23:43,332
so she wasn't being
hit by any debris.
291
00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:50,505
And Sal D'Agostino
took his coat off
and put it around her.
292
00:24:02,184 --> 00:24:05,721
And they told her nothing's
going to happen to you.
293
00:24:07,122 --> 00:24:10,392
As long as
we're here, nothing's
going to happen to you.
294
00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:15,831
And they took
turns talking to her,
295
00:24:15,831 --> 00:24:20,102
trying to keep her
mind off what was an
impossible situation for us,
296
00:24:20,102 --> 00:24:23,672
it's definitely an
impossible situation for her.
297
00:24:24,606 --> 00:24:29,077
Without orders from me,
they did it on their own,
298
00:24:29,077 --> 00:24:32,647
they took care of this woman.
299
00:24:36,651 --> 00:24:40,655
The situation
was getting really bad.
300
00:24:41,189 --> 00:24:45,827
And then after about
three, maybe two and
half to three hours,
301
00:24:45,827 --> 00:24:47,829
I'm not sure, I started,
302
00:24:47,829 --> 00:24:50,966
I was looking up and I saw
like a flicker of light.
303
00:24:56,271 --> 00:25:00,142
And then it went out.
304
00:25:00,142 --> 00:25:03,211
And then it
flickered up again.
305
00:25:04,780 --> 00:25:06,748
And I'm looking and I'm trying
to figure out what it is.
306
00:25:06,748 --> 00:25:09,017
At first I thought it was
an emergency light that was
307
00:25:09,017 --> 00:25:12,120
hooked up and
flickering on and off.
308
00:25:13,121 --> 00:25:19,795
And then in a couple of
minutes the light lit up and
309
00:25:19,795 --> 00:25:22,330
I was, it was the sun.
310
00:25:27,402 --> 00:25:30,572
And it came in, a
beam of sun came in,
311
00:25:30,572 --> 00:25:34,009
and it was like
something from God.
312
00:25:34,943 --> 00:25:37,379
It was like from heaven.
313
00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:41,016
You know, that meant
an opening above us.
314
00:26:11,179 --> 00:26:12,581
What was happening
was the smoke and dust
315
00:26:12,581 --> 00:26:15,750
was clearing outside.
316
00:26:17,219 --> 00:26:22,591
And we got to the
point where all of a
sudden you could look up
317
00:26:22,591 --> 00:26:27,195
and I could see a sliver of
blue sky through the rubble.
318
00:26:29,364 --> 00:26:34,603
And I looked down and I could
see a beam of light striking
319
00:26:34,603 --> 00:26:40,041
the stairway and I'm like,
320
00:26:41,543 --> 00:26:47,082
"Guys, there used to be
106 floors over our heads,
321
00:26:48,817 --> 00:26:50,418
now I see blue sky."
322
00:26:50,418 --> 00:26:53,555
And I said, "I
think we're on top of
the World Trade Center."
323
00:26:57,325 --> 00:27:00,495
So, you know, we
started poking around.
324
00:27:02,164 --> 00:27:06,668
You know, with this added
light we were able to find an
325
00:27:06,668 --> 00:27:10,438
area where we could breach
a hole through the rubble.
326
00:27:13,408 --> 00:27:16,811
When the dust
cleared away and we knew
327
00:27:16,811 --> 00:27:20,515
we had an opening,
we had to climb to it,
328
00:27:20,515 --> 00:27:22,117
it was 20 feet above us.
329
00:27:22,117 --> 00:27:25,253
So, you know, there
was all criss‐cross,
330
00:27:25,253 --> 00:27:30,692
bent up beams
inside the area so,
331
00:27:30,692 --> 00:27:34,629
those of us who were
physically able were able to
332
00:27:34,629 --> 00:27:37,899
climb up and get to that
opening and actually
333
00:27:37,899 --> 00:27:40,235
wiggle our way out.
334
00:28:07,229 --> 00:28:08,897
And I poked my head
out and I couldn't believe
335
00:28:08,897 --> 00:28:11,666
what I was seeing.
336
00:28:12,834 --> 00:28:18,740
You know, you see the
façade of what's left of
the World Trade Center,
337
00:28:19,541 --> 00:28:24,813
and there's flame and smoke
coming up from everywhere,
338
00:28:24,813 --> 00:28:26,114
numbers four, five, six
339
00:28:26,114 --> 00:28:27,582
World Trade Center on fire,
340
00:28:27,582 --> 00:28:30,118
there's like
seven story buildings.
341
00:28:30,118 --> 00:28:32,821
Number Seven
World Trade Center is a
342
00:28:32,821 --> 00:28:36,258
high rise office building
and it's on fire.
343
00:28:38,126 --> 00:28:41,463
It was very eerie sticking
your head out and especially
344
00:28:41,463 --> 00:28:45,567
seeing the iconic façade
of the World Trade Center,
345
00:28:45,567 --> 00:28:49,304
the arches.
346
00:28:50,105 --> 00:28:53,174
And there was
nothing left of it.
347
00:29:00,649 --> 00:29:04,386
We waited until we
could see a fireman,
348
00:29:04,386 --> 00:29:06,721
we saw a fireman
off in the distance,
349
00:29:06,721 --> 00:29:09,190
and we were to make
contact with them.
350
00:29:11,326 --> 00:29:14,062
FIREFIGHTER
What's the name of the street
that is on?
351
00:29:16,197 --> 00:29:17,365
Thank you.
352
00:29:17,365 --> 00:29:19,934
And they made
their way to the stairway.
353
00:29:28,576 --> 00:29:33,882
Got Josephine Harris,
Engine 53 and Ladder 43
got her out.
354
00:29:33,882 --> 00:29:36,518
They brought the
stokes basket stretcher up.
355
00:29:36,518 --> 00:29:39,554
It's almost like
she took a stand,
356
00:29:39,554 --> 00:29:41,289
like on the
fourth floor, like,
357
00:29:41,289 --> 00:29:43,792
somehow she knew.
358
00:29:45,226 --> 00:29:48,229
that we have to be here,
this is the spot.
359
00:29:52,834 --> 00:29:56,838
One by one I was sending
everybody in the stairway out.
360
00:29:57,739 --> 00:30:02,644
And one by one I saw every one
of my guys climb the rope and
361
00:30:02,644 --> 00:30:06,648
that was a very
satisfying part of the
day for me to see that.
362
00:30:07,315 --> 00:30:09,517
It was a
wonderful feeling.
363
00:30:09,517 --> 00:30:12,287
I don't have to explain that.
364
00:30:13,888 --> 00:30:15,824
You think you might die in
that hole and then all of a
365
00:30:15,824 --> 00:30:18,560
sudden you're outside and
somebody's giving you a
366
00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:20,128
sandwich and a soda.
367
00:30:20,128 --> 00:30:22,130
It's a pretty
nice feeling, right.
368
00:31:22,257 --> 00:31:23,792
We were
the last people to come out
369
00:31:23,792 --> 00:31:25,794
before Tower One fell.
370
00:31:27,228 --> 00:31:29,898
We're
sending everybody this
way, towards the water.
371
00:31:31,599 --> 00:31:35,236
And I evacuated
with my coworker, Muzua,
372
00:31:35,804 --> 00:31:37,739
who to the day is my hero.
373
00:31:46,147 --> 00:31:49,184
We were coming down the
stairs and I wanted to stop
374
00:31:49,184 --> 00:31:51,286
because I was tired.
375
00:31:51,286 --> 00:31:52,987
So, he grabbed my hand
and he just pulled me down
376
00:31:52,987 --> 00:31:54,155
the rest of the way.
377
00:31:54,155 --> 00:31:56,424
And I'm going down like,
"Please, please, let me stop."
378
00:31:56,424 --> 00:31:59,294
He said, "We can't stop.
We have to keep moving."
379
00:31:59,294 --> 00:32:02,096
And when I came
out and that smoke,
380
00:32:02,096 --> 00:32:06,034
or that cloud, that
scared the life outta me.
381
00:32:06,801 --> 00:32:09,771
It's like a hurricane coming
through and it was this air
382
00:32:09,771 --> 00:32:12,240
blowing through and I saw
people were caught up in the
383
00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:14,509
air just blowing through.
384
00:32:16,177 --> 00:32:17,779
Can you
tell me what happened?
385
00:32:17,779 --> 00:32:19,280
What'd you see?
386
00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:20,482
We got to the...
387
00:32:20,482 --> 00:32:22,383
All the way to the
lobby and all of a sudden it
388
00:32:22,383 --> 00:32:24,219
was this big explosion.
389
00:32:24,219 --> 00:32:26,221
Mom, I just want you
to know I'm alright.
390
00:32:27,255 --> 00:32:28,356
I don't know what
else to tell you.
391
00:32:28,356 --> 00:32:29,791
We came from the 82nd floor
and I don't know where
392
00:32:29,791 --> 00:32:33,027
my peers are, I don't know,
I hope to God they okay.
393
00:32:33,361 --> 00:32:36,865
It was like a
comet just hit the earth.
394
00:32:37,298 --> 00:32:38,933
Like a comet?
Yeah.
395
00:32:38,933 --> 00:32:40,768
Look at this.
Look at this.
396
00:32:40,768 --> 00:32:43,137
Look at your clothes.
Look at you.
397
00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:49,911
Whatever this stuff
is, I hope it doesn't kill ya.
398
00:32:56,918 --> 00:33:00,221
Daphne,
don't give up now. Daphne.
399
00:33:00,755 --> 00:33:01,756
I just cried.
400
00:33:01,756 --> 00:33:03,258
I remember crying a lot.
401
00:33:03,258 --> 00:33:06,528
I'm just tired.
I'm tired.
402
00:33:07,362 --> 00:33:11,199
And I remember just
being sad, I was sad.
403
00:33:11,900 --> 00:33:16,137
I was like, I just couldn't
understand, you know,
404
00:33:16,137 --> 00:33:19,173
what happened,
why it happened.
405
00:33:21,075 --> 00:33:23,945
And I remember
sitting there and this
lady was trying to tell me.
406
00:33:24,879 --> 00:33:27,615
Can you
even begin to fathom the
people who may have done this?
407
00:33:28,149 --> 00:33:29,918
I dunno.
408
00:33:29,918 --> 00:33:32,053
Can you
even begin to fathom why?
409
00:33:32,053 --> 00:33:33,821
Why it happened?
410
00:33:33,821 --> 00:33:35,123
Why a plane hit the building?
411
00:33:35,123 --> 00:33:37,525
Why a
plan was hijacked and...
412
00:33:37,525 --> 00:33:39,093
Excuse me.
413
00:33:39,093 --> 00:33:40,261
I hope
you understand,
414
00:33:40,261 --> 00:33:43,398
that plane might have been
high‐jacked by a terrorist.
415
00:33:44,666 --> 00:33:46,701
This didn't happen by chance.
416
00:33:46,701 --> 00:33:50,204
Jesus.
In America?!
417
00:33:51,506 --> 00:33:58,079
I don't know what to say.
I don't what to say.
418
00:34:03,384 --> 00:34:07,555
All I could think about
was all the firefighters...
419
00:34:10,725 --> 00:34:12,727
running up the stairs,
420
00:34:12,727 --> 00:34:14,529
you know, going
to help whoever,
421
00:34:14,529 --> 00:34:17,332
you know, was up there.
422
00:34:17,332 --> 00:34:20,301
And I remember this young
kid running behind them with
423
00:34:20,301 --> 00:34:23,638
a fire extinguisher
going to help the people,
424
00:34:24,806 --> 00:34:27,008
I think it was
like a young kid,
425
00:34:27,008 --> 00:34:29,844
right outta high school,
looked like a little boy.
426
00:34:30,378 --> 00:34:34,082
And he, he was going to help.
427
00:34:39,220 --> 00:34:41,022
And I remember
his face, he was like,
428
00:34:41,022 --> 00:34:43,958
"Yeah, I'm going, I'm
gonna help some people,
429
00:34:43,958 --> 00:34:45,760
I'm gonna help some people."
430
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:49,497
I'm like, "Okay,
alright, alright."
431
00:34:51,432 --> 00:34:55,570
And when I get
downstairs, you know,
432
00:34:55,570 --> 00:34:59,173
get out to find out that
the building collapsed.
433
00:35:00,375 --> 00:35:04,812
And I'm like, this
young kid trying to...
434
00:35:04,812 --> 00:35:09,484
I consider him a hero.
435
00:35:10,051 --> 00:35:12,153
And I'm like, I
always ask myself,
436
00:35:12,153 --> 00:35:14,922
I wonder if they survived?
437
00:35:14,922 --> 00:35:18,526
I wonder if they made it out?
438
00:35:18,526 --> 00:35:21,496
That bothered me a lot.
439
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:34,442
Some companies
didn't make it out though
440
00:35:34,442 --> 00:35:40,214
that were in that original
fifth alarm, made it out
but a lot of guys didn't.
441
00:35:45,353 --> 00:35:47,522
After a while
I realized that I needed
442
00:35:47,522 --> 00:35:49,891
to contact my family.
443
00:35:52,060 --> 00:35:55,396
I remember taking out my cell
phone and I'm thinking let me
444
00:35:55,396 --> 00:35:58,199
try and call my Mom, you know,
and people that know me.
445
00:35:58,199 --> 00:36:00,435
So I dial the phone
and I call my Mom and
446
00:36:00,435 --> 00:36:01,836
busy, busy, busy.
447
00:36:01,836 --> 00:36:04,639
And then all of a
sudden the phone picked
up and it was my aunt.
448
00:36:04,639 --> 00:36:06,974
And she tells me,
"Oh my God, you're
okay, you're okay."
449
00:36:06,974 --> 00:36:09,210
I go, "Yes, I'm okay,
I'm alive, I'm down here,
450
00:36:09,210 --> 00:36:10,578
I'm working", I said,
451
00:36:10,578 --> 00:36:12,246
"But I survived",
I said, "I was in the
building, I survived."
452
00:36:12,246 --> 00:36:14,215
She goes, "Your Mom's here,
your Mom's here."
453
00:36:14,215 --> 00:36:15,983
And I remember my Mom
getting on the phone and
454
00:36:15,983 --> 00:36:17,518
she was panicking and
crying and she's like,
455
00:36:17,518 --> 00:36:19,320
"Oh my God, thank God
you're alive, thank God."
456
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:20,955
She goes, "Your
brother was dispatched,
457
00:36:20,955 --> 00:36:23,558
he's somewhere down there."
458
00:36:27,361 --> 00:36:30,732
My brother Michael
was also a firefighter.
459
00:36:34,068 --> 00:36:35,636
So I said,
"Okay, I gotta go Ma.
460
00:36:35,636 --> 00:36:37,371
I gotta go, I
gotta go find Michael,
461
00:36:37,371 --> 00:36:38,840
I gotta go find my brother."
462
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:42,009
And I remember
getting on my radio and
calling my brother's company,
463
00:36:42,009 --> 00:36:44,112
and he was in
Engine Company 228.
464
00:36:44,112 --> 00:36:46,414
And I'm like,
"Ladder Ten to Engine 228.
465
00:36:46,414 --> 00:36:48,549
Come in Engine 228",
a couple of times,
466
00:36:48,549 --> 00:36:50,051
"Ladder Ten to Engine 228."
467
00:36:50,051 --> 00:36:51,119
No response.
468
00:36:51,119 --> 00:36:54,322
Then I go, "John Morabito
to Michael Morabito",
469
00:36:54,322 --> 00:36:56,657
like now I'm like
desperate to find him.
470
00:36:56,657 --> 00:36:58,626
And I see my captain,
Captain Mallory,
471
00:36:58,626 --> 00:37:00,228
he comes walking up
to me, he's like,
472
00:37:00,228 --> 00:37:01,662
"What's doing?
You're okay, right?
473
00:37:01,662 --> 00:37:03,064
You made it through?"
474
00:37:03,064 --> 00:37:05,533
And I'm like, "Yeah, Cap",
I go, "But I'm looking
for my brother."
475
00:37:05,533 --> 00:37:08,236
He's like,
"Alright," he goes, "Let's",
476
00:37:08,236 --> 00:37:10,772
he goes, "There's a
command center over
here, they gotta table",
477
00:37:10,772 --> 00:37:13,174
he goes, "They're
marking off everybody
that's not accounted for."
478
00:37:13,174 --> 00:37:15,643
He goes, "Let's go look
at the command center."
479
00:37:25,019 --> 00:37:28,222
We went over to the command
center and I'm looking at the
480
00:37:28,222 --> 00:37:30,491
paper that they got and
they got all names written on
481
00:37:30,491 --> 00:37:33,528
pieces of oak tagging
and I'm spotting names
of guys that I know.
482
00:37:33,528 --> 00:37:35,396
I'm like, "Oh my
God, he's not here."
483
00:37:35,396 --> 00:37:37,565
And this was just a list
of names of guys that were
484
00:37:37,565 --> 00:37:39,300
unaccounted for.
485
00:37:39,300 --> 00:37:41,803
And as we go down the list, my
brother's name is on the list.
486
00:37:52,914 --> 00:37:55,183
And he's like, "Listen,
this is just an early list,
487
00:37:55,183 --> 00:37:56,984
don't think
about it", you know,
488
00:37:56,984 --> 00:37:58,319
"Don't worry about it."
489
00:37:58,319 --> 00:37:59,921
And I see all the
guys in his company,
490
00:37:59,921 --> 00:38:01,022
I see their
names on that list,
491
00:38:01,022 --> 00:38:03,024
I'm like, his whole company
is gone, they're gone.
492
00:38:03,024 --> 00:38:04,692
I'm like, I don't even
know how I'm gonna go home,
493
00:38:04,692 --> 00:38:06,727
how am I gonna go
home and face my family,
494
00:38:06,727 --> 00:38:09,831
knowing that my brother,
who got on the job after me,
495
00:38:09,831 --> 00:38:13,100
kinda followed in my footstep,
he's no longer with us because
496
00:38:13,100 --> 00:38:15,269
of this situation,
how am I gonna do this.
497
00:38:15,269 --> 00:38:18,239
I felt lost.
498
00:38:26,214 --> 00:38:28,783
And I remember walking around,
499
00:38:30,551 --> 00:38:32,153
and I remember
seeing a fire hydrant
500
00:38:32,153 --> 00:38:35,690
in the middle of the
street and I was so thirsty
501
00:38:35,690 --> 00:38:37,558
and I took a
little bit of water.
502
00:38:37,558 --> 00:38:39,360
And I'm drinking the water and
I wash my face and I looked up
503
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:40,728
and my brother...
504
00:38:42,930 --> 00:38:45,967
walks right in front of me,
like it was meant to be.
505
00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:47,935
I'm like, I grab him,
I'm like, "Mike! Mike"
506
00:38:47,935 --> 00:38:49,170
And he jumps up,
he's like, "John",
507
00:38:49,170 --> 00:38:50,137
he goes,
"How are you alive?"
508
00:38:50,137 --> 00:38:51,339
I go, "How are you alive?"
509
00:38:51,339 --> 00:38:53,107
He goes, "I was coming out
of the tunnel when I saw that
510
00:38:53,107 --> 00:38:54,909
debris go, so I turned
to my friend and I said,
511
00:38:54,909 --> 00:38:57,111
my brother just died."
512
00:38:57,111 --> 00:38:59,080
And it's just like this moment
of fate where we were at the
513
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:02,450
same place, at the same time,
and we needed to make contact.
514
00:39:02,450 --> 00:39:03,985
And we grab each
other and I said to him,
515
00:39:03,985 --> 00:39:05,486
I said, "That's it,
the rest of the day,
516
00:39:05,486 --> 00:39:07,021
I'm not gonna lose
you again", I go,
517
00:39:07,021 --> 00:39:08,289
"We're staying together.
518
00:39:08,289 --> 00:39:09,290
We're staying together.
519
00:39:09,290 --> 00:39:11,959
We gotta go home together."
520
00:39:14,161 --> 00:39:17,064
It was a tremendous relief.
521
00:39:17,064 --> 00:39:19,400
We were safe.
522
00:39:23,704 --> 00:39:25,539
All you wanna do at this
point is get outta here,
523
00:39:25,539 --> 00:39:27,475
you just wanna get
away from all of this.
524
00:39:30,144 --> 00:39:33,180
But we knew we needed to
turn around and go back in.
525
00:39:46,894 --> 00:39:49,997
There were people who
were underneath the debris.
526
00:39:56,871 --> 00:40:00,074
And that we couldn't give
up on looking for them.
527
00:40:43,217 --> 00:40:44,885
I just felt so bad.
528
00:40:44,885 --> 00:40:50,424
I just felt so
guilty for being alive
'cause so many was gone.
529
00:40:52,326 --> 00:40:58,566
And I thought about
those firemen I saw
and that little boy,
530
00:40:59,633 --> 00:41:03,104
and to this day, I
still wonder about that.
531
00:41:03,104 --> 00:41:06,674
Did they make it out?
532
00:42:10,271 --> 00:42:13,074
They could move, I couldn't.
533
00:42:13,074 --> 00:42:14,375
And I figured
that they could run,
534
00:42:14,375 --> 00:42:16,710
they could get out.
535
00:42:16,710 --> 00:42:18,846
But they stayed with me.
536
00:42:25,119 --> 00:42:28,856
Hello, how are you?
537
00:42:29,857 --> 00:42:32,426
Hello.
538
00:42:34,095 --> 00:42:36,664
There was a lot
of media attention and the,
539
00:42:36,664 --> 00:42:40,267
the fire department
wanted to get our story
out because it was one
540
00:42:40,267 --> 00:42:43,304
of the few positive
stories from September 11th.
541
00:42:44,472 --> 00:42:46,740
Did you realize that the
other tower had collapsed?
542
00:42:46,740 --> 00:42:48,709
No.
No, you didn't.
543
00:42:48,709 --> 00:42:50,311
I wondered why
you were so calm.
544
00:42:55,749 --> 00:43:00,387
She trusted us a lot
and we protected her.
545
00:43:40,761 --> 00:43:43,364
REPORTER You've
been listening to a live news
conference on 1010 Wins
546
00:43:43,364 --> 00:43:46,333
of Mayor Giuliani and
Police Commissioner,
Bernard Kerik.
547
00:43:46,333 --> 00:43:50,271
Bernard Kerik's saying that
there are some people alive
548
00:43:50,271 --> 00:43:52,373
in the rubble of the
World Trade Center.
549
00:43:52,373 --> 00:43:54,875
He's confirming that
there are some people alive.
550
00:43:54,875 --> 00:43:57,278
REPORTER 2
Mayor Giuliani confirmed that
several people in the rubble
551
00:43:57,278 --> 00:43:59,480
have been calling from
cell phones to family members
552
00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:02,516
including a person who's been
calling to family in Seattle.
553
00:44:02,516 --> 00:44:03,784
REPORTER 3 Maybe
there is a bit of brightness,
554
00:44:03,784 --> 00:44:05,352
there is tomorrow.
555
00:44:05,352 --> 00:44:06,954
Captioned by
Cotter Media Group.
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