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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:06,399 this is where things spin out of control 2 00:00:04,160 --> 00:00:08,559 brian laundry's notebook was found near 3 00:00:06,399 --> 00:00:09,689 his remains that could break the case 4 00:00:08,558 --> 00:00:13,609 open 5 00:00:09,689 --> 00:00:13,609 [Applause] 6 00:00:14,109 --> 00:00:17,269 [Music] 7 00:00:17,140 --> 00:00:20,339 [Applause] 8 00:00:17,269 --> 00:00:20,339 [Music] 9 00:00:23,199 --> 00:00:25,519 come on let me show you this we'll go to 10 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:27,760 the beach 11 00:00:25,518 --> 00:00:30,159 um just listen to the ocean look at the 12 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:31,920 waves look at the sand watch the sunrise 13 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:34,320 watch the sunset 14 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:37,679 driving across the country all the way 15 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:39,439 to california in oregon was an absolute 16 00:00:37,679 --> 00:00:41,439 dream 17 00:00:39,439 --> 00:00:44,238 wish i was back running down the beach 18 00:00:41,439 --> 00:00:46,718 looking at the pacific ocean 19 00:00:44,238 --> 00:00:48,399 she did a lot she was very busy she 20 00:00:46,719 --> 00:00:50,399 loved her friends 21 00:00:48,399 --> 00:00:52,640 she was a beautiful artist brilliant 22 00:00:50,399 --> 00:00:55,439 artist 23 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:56,799 just so talented 24 00:00:55,439 --> 00:00:58,479 everybody sees the pictures of her out 25 00:00:56,799 --> 00:01:00,718 there as an adult but 26 00:00:58,479 --> 00:01:01,839 when i close my eyes and i think her i 27 00:01:00,719 --> 00:01:04,478 still remember 28 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:06,799 a little blonde hair bright blue-eyed 29 00:01:04,478 --> 00:01:09,039 little girl with her hair up and 30 00:01:06,799 --> 00:01:11,280 you know ponytails 31 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:14,159 gabby wants to be adventurous if you 32 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:15,120 look at the instagram posts it's just 33 00:01:14,159 --> 00:01:16,478 very clear 34 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:18,400 [Music] 35 00:01:16,478 --> 00:01:21,280 she's just loves life 36 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:23,439 uh and loves new experiences 37 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:26,400 made my favorite mango smoothie for 38 00:01:23,438 --> 00:01:28,798 breakfast went on a nice little hike 39 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:30,880 had some sushi and watched the sunset 40 00:01:28,799 --> 00:01:32,640 before going home to some chocolate 41 00:01:30,879 --> 00:01:34,319 covered strawberries 42 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:36,719 what could be better than this 43 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:39,599 hashtag 21. 44 00:01:36,719 --> 00:01:41,359 the gabby potito story is important 45 00:01:39,599 --> 00:01:43,438 because i think everybody 46 00:01:41,359 --> 00:01:45,840 not only saw a little bit of someone 47 00:01:43,438 --> 00:01:49,599 they knew in the story but also frankly 48 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:52,640 maybe saw a little bit of themselves 49 00:01:49,599 --> 00:01:54,959 gabby wore her heart on her sleeve 50 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:56,640 gabby believed everything could come 51 00:01:54,959 --> 00:01:59,599 true 52 00:01:56,640 --> 00:02:01,920 she believed in this perfect love i 53 00:01:59,599 --> 00:02:04,078 can't wait to get back to days like this 54 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:06,240 traveling the world with you and asking 55 00:02:04,078 --> 00:02:08,000 strangers to take our picture 56 00:02:06,239 --> 00:02:09,598 never taking moments like this for 57 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:11,520 granted again 58 00:02:09,598 --> 00:02:14,399 brian laundry is a 59 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:16,480 typical american young man loved the 60 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:18,800 outdoors by all accounts they met in 61 00:02:16,479 --> 00:02:20,238 high school he was a junior when they 62 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:22,400 met in high school 63 00:02:20,239 --> 00:02:24,319 seems like the both of them were 64 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:26,719 kind of free-spirited 65 00:02:24,318 --> 00:02:28,639 we don't know a whole lot about brian 66 00:02:26,719 --> 00:02:30,159 laundry there's no friends or 67 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:32,479 acquaintances that have really come 68 00:02:30,159 --> 00:02:34,560 forward and wanted to speak with us if 69 00:02:32,479 --> 00:02:37,199 you take a look at his public instagram 70 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:39,519 page a lot of the photos are just solo 71 00:02:37,199 --> 00:02:41,839 with just him alone brian laundry had 72 00:02:39,519 --> 00:02:43,519 his own social media accounts too and he 73 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:45,920 did his own posting 74 00:02:43,519 --> 00:02:47,439 he definitely fashions himself as being 75 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:49,839 a little edgy 76 00:02:47,439 --> 00:02:51,680 gabby and brian knew each other in long 77 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:53,519 island that's where they're from she 78 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:55,439 came down to where he was living with 79 00:02:53,519 --> 00:02:58,239 his parents in their house playing the 80 00:02:55,439 --> 00:03:00,639 gabby potato case since day one we do 81 00:02:58,239 --> 00:03:02,480 know that gabby petito lived laundries 82 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:05,518 in northport florida for about a two and 83 00:03:02,479 --> 00:03:07,840 a half year period brian and gabby were 84 00:03:05,519 --> 00:03:10,480 actually engaged before they went on 85 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:10,479 this trip 86 00:03:10,959 --> 00:03:12,878 so 87 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:15,120 we are 88 00:03:12,878 --> 00:03:17,759 right outside capitol reef right now in 89 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:19,120 a free dispersed camp spot since we left 90 00:03:17,759 --> 00:03:20,000 new york i've only set up my hammock 91 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:22,319 once 92 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:23,759 and we're kind of like in the desert 93 00:03:22,318 --> 00:03:26,158 you see this 94 00:03:23,759 --> 00:03:27,518 evolution you see them growing you see 95 00:03:26,158 --> 00:03:29,439 the excitement you see you know what's 96 00:03:27,519 --> 00:03:31,360 happening you watch someone grow up 97 00:03:29,439 --> 00:03:34,318 right through instagram photos the 98 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:35,599 potatoes talk to abc australia she 99 00:03:34,318 --> 00:03:37,518 always wanted to do this she planned it 100 00:03:35,598 --> 00:03:38,399 out she she knew what she wanted to do 101 00:03:37,519 --> 00:03:40,319 and 102 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:43,280 she knew where she wanted to go 103 00:03:40,318 --> 00:03:45,839 i worried um i told her to be careful be 104 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:48,080 safe you know make sure 105 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:49,840 to be aware of your surroundings um you 106 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:51,599 know don't trust everybody 107 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:54,878 but i felt safe because she was with 108 00:03:51,598 --> 00:03:56,158 ryan and i i felt like she would be okay 109 00:03:54,878 --> 00:03:58,079 i think i thought he would take care of 110 00:03:56,158 --> 00:03:59,679 her 111 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:01,200 it's a lot easier walking up river 112 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:03,120 holding someone's hand then walking 113 00:04:01,199 --> 00:04:04,958 alone 114 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:07,360 what we can tell from brian laundry from 115 00:04:04,959 --> 00:04:08,719 his instagram page is that he was very 116 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:11,840 into the environment keeping the 117 00:04:08,719 --> 00:04:14,719 environment clean and we can see that he 118 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:16,560 eats out of melon rinds he tries to not 119 00:04:14,719 --> 00:04:18,319 use plastic 120 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:20,000 downsizing our life to fit into this 121 00:04:18,319 --> 00:04:22,240 itty bitty van was the best decision 122 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:25,120 we've ever made 123 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:28,000 she wanted to create her own business 124 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:30,399 of blogging for a living and she had a 125 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:32,959 unique perspective on how she was going 126 00:04:30,399 --> 00:04:35,359 to capture that audience 127 00:04:32,959 --> 00:04:38,319 we know that brian and gabby purchased 128 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:39,520 this van actually a year prior and this 129 00:04:38,319 --> 00:04:41,120 was something that they had been 130 00:04:39,519 --> 00:04:43,359 planning for quite some time to do to 131 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:45,600 travel the country i think that for a 132 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:47,840 lot of young people right now this idea 133 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:49,280 of leaving everything behind getting in 134 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:51,689 a van 135 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:53,359 seeing the world is attractive 136 00:04:51,689 --> 00:04:54,719 [Music] 137 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:56,639 i love the van 138 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:59,440 van life is exactly what it sounds it's 139 00:04:56,639 --> 00:05:01,840 living in often a restored van or school 140 00:04:59,439 --> 00:05:03,360 bus and having this kind of nomadic 141 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:06,079 lifestyle where you can travel around 142 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:07,840 the country van life is an aspirational 143 00:05:06,079 --> 00:05:10,959 lifestyle and it is something that 144 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:12,879 people seek it attracts a certain person 145 00:05:10,959 --> 00:05:15,758 who wants to travel and sort of see 146 00:05:12,879 --> 00:05:18,000 things up close not from the air or from 147 00:05:15,759 --> 00:05:19,199 a speeding train but traveling at their 148 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:21,600 own pace 149 00:05:19,199 --> 00:05:23,199 van life was made popular and kind of 150 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:24,560 grew into people's 151 00:05:23,199 --> 00:05:27,360 vision of what they were seeing through 152 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:29,680 this very popular film nomad land it's 153 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:31,600 fine i need a ride to town 154 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:32,879 walk i blew my tire 155 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:34,000 there's kind of a joke in van life that 156 00:05:32,879 --> 00:05:35,918 you really never know where you're gonna 157 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:38,959 go more than a few days in advance and 158 00:05:35,918 --> 00:05:41,279 that's really very true it was growing 159 00:05:38,959 --> 00:05:43,198 in popularity largely through instagram 160 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:44,799 and youtube the pandemic really flipped 161 00:05:43,199 --> 00:05:46,478 our life on its head the life we were 162 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:48,079 living was completely opposite of what 163 00:05:46,478 --> 00:05:49,359 really brings us joy 164 00:05:48,079 --> 00:05:53,198 we've taught ourselves everything we 165 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:56,720 needed you know vehicle maintenance 166 00:05:53,199 --> 00:06:00,800 hello hello and good morning 167 00:05:56,720 --> 00:06:02,800 it is really nice and sunny today 168 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:05,120 it's only 10 o'clock in the morning 169 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:08,160 and your hope is that you will become an 170 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:10,639 influencer the way to live a sustainable 171 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:12,560 life as a van lifer is to have millions 172 00:06:10,639 --> 00:06:14,400 of followers online gabby definitely 173 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:16,560 wanted to be part of this community she 174 00:06:14,399 --> 00:06:18,239 and ryan were posting it on instagram on 175 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:20,000 youtube they were documenting this 176 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:23,840 journey for people on the internet to 177 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:23,839 essentially engage with wow 178 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:27,520 oh my god 179 00:06:25,670 --> 00:06:29,120 [Applause] 180 00:06:27,519 --> 00:06:32,318 when i look at gabby's 181 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:33,918 instagram to see her building her brand 182 00:06:32,319 --> 00:06:35,919 she followed a lot of people who also 183 00:06:33,918 --> 00:06:38,240 were doing the van life thing too so it 184 00:06:35,918 --> 00:06:41,120 looks like she was following the formula 185 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:43,600 for how to get successful there 186 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:45,680 living in a van is a struggle it is not 187 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:47,840 the beautiful picturesque life that a 188 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:49,120 lot of internet creators painted out to 189 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:51,439 be 190 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:53,680 and gabby and brian were in a smaller 191 00:06:51,439 --> 00:06:55,519 van than i usually see people in i 192 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:57,519 imagine that's a lot of pressure any 193 00:06:55,519 --> 00:06:58,399 relationship has fights 194 00:06:57,519 --> 00:07:00,159 but 195 00:06:58,399 --> 00:07:02,478 now you're in this tiny van there's no 196 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:03,520 place else to go i don't know what 197 00:07:02,478 --> 00:07:04,959 you're supposed to do when you're in 198 00:07:03,519 --> 00:07:07,359 that kind of environment 199 00:07:04,959 --> 00:07:09,598 life on the road is difficult you have 200 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:12,240 to pivot a lot it changes in a 201 00:07:09,598 --> 00:07:14,759 millisecond and you have to be ready for 202 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:22,050 that 203 00:07:14,759 --> 00:07:22,560 [Applause] 204 00:07:22,050 --> 00:07:25,270 [Music] 205 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:29,199 [Applause] 206 00:07:25,269 --> 00:07:30,799 [Music] 207 00:07:29,199 --> 00:07:32,639 for gabby and brian they were struggling 208 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:34,079 they were not the cream of the crop 209 00:07:32,639 --> 00:07:35,598 family of creators they were not going 210 00:07:34,079 --> 00:07:37,519 viral they were really living hand to 211 00:07:35,598 --> 00:07:39,360 mouth and so there was a lot of tension 212 00:07:37,519 --> 00:07:40,959 you could tell around that i'd like to 213 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:42,479 report a domestic dispute but we drove 214 00:07:40,959 --> 00:07:45,478 by and the gentleman was slapping the 215 00:07:42,478 --> 00:07:45,478 girl 216 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:50,509 [Music] 217 00:07:56,240 --> 00:08:02,240 went hiking for my birthday 218 00:07:59,038 --> 00:08:05,680 22 one whole year's worth of adventures 219 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:09,079 and stories down and a lifetime to go i 220 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:09,079 love our adventures 221 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:18,319 i think in a lot of her old posts you 222 00:08:15,439 --> 00:08:20,478 saw that she really cared about brian he 223 00:08:18,319 --> 00:08:22,800 was a figure on her page and in her life 224 00:08:20,478 --> 00:08:24,800 and he really meant a lot to her 225 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:27,360 here's a picture from our first date 226 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:30,400 because i have so much love for you 227 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:31,280 brian asked me to marry him and i said 228 00:08:30,399 --> 00:08:34,319 yes 229 00:08:31,279 --> 00:08:37,038 the other thing to note about her posts 230 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:38,560 is they are heavily edited keeping her 231 00:08:37,038 --> 00:08:40,479 life beautiful 232 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:42,239 on camera 233 00:08:40,479 --> 00:08:43,680 social media is basically the highlight 234 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:45,080 reel of your life you're not posting 235 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:46,479 videos of yourself fighting with 236 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:49,600 [Music] 237 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:53,039 me and brian just got up and got ready 238 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:57,839 made the bed in the tent 239 00:08:53,039 --> 00:09:02,000 set up um i think our plan for today is 240 00:08:57,839 --> 00:09:03,839 to just hang out here in the tent 241 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:05,440 um 242 00:09:03,839 --> 00:09:06,640 ryan's stretching 243 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:09,040 doing some 244 00:09:06,639 --> 00:09:10,799 morning yoga so they're visiting 245 00:09:09,039 --> 00:09:14,559 national parks so we know they stopped 246 00:09:10,799 --> 00:09:16,559 in colorado then they stopped in utah 247 00:09:14,559 --> 00:09:18,719 thank you at gabspetito for putting up 248 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:20,639 with me through utah a topographic 249 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:22,879 playground they've been on this trip 250 00:09:20,639 --> 00:09:25,039 over a month and then on august 12th 251 00:09:22,879 --> 00:09:26,958 there is a phone call and placed to 252 00:09:25,039 --> 00:09:29,439 9-1-1 253 00:09:26,958 --> 00:09:32,479 a witness had reported seeing gabby and 254 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:34,640 brian fighting that witness said brian 255 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:37,200 had slapped gabby 256 00:09:34,639 --> 00:09:39,278 hi can you hear me sir yeah yeah 257 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:40,959 hi i'm calling i'm right on the corner 258 00:09:39,278 --> 00:09:42,320 of main street by 259 00:09:40,958 --> 00:09:43,039 moonflower 260 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:44,399 and 261 00:09:43,039 --> 00:09:46,079 we're driving by and i'd like to report 262 00:09:44,399 --> 00:09:48,559 a domestic dispute florida with the 263 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:50,720 white van gentleman 264 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:52,159 what were they doing 265 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:55,600 oh we drove by the gentleman was 266 00:09:52,159 --> 00:09:57,439 slapping the girl he was slapping her 267 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:59,440 yes and then we stopped they ran up and 268 00:09:57,440 --> 00:10:04,680 down the sidewalk he proceeded to hit 269 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:04,680 her in the car and they drove off 270 00:10:04,958 --> 00:10:09,039 at the time these officers received that 271 00:10:06,799 --> 00:10:12,078 original radio call they were on the 272 00:10:09,039 --> 00:10:14,000 impression that a male had assaulted a 273 00:10:12,078 --> 00:10:16,639 female it was clear that there was a 274 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:19,600 domestic situation occurring and that 275 00:10:16,639 --> 00:10:22,720 officers needed to respond the police 276 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:24,159 followed the van driver is showing some 277 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:25,839 obscure driving 278 00:10:24,159 --> 00:10:28,240 he's driving somewhat erratically 279 00:10:25,839 --> 00:10:31,040 possibly intoxicated he's speeding 280 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:33,600 currently doing 45 miles an hour 281 00:10:31,039 --> 00:10:37,919 zone through here is 25. oh brian hit 282 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:37,920 the curb subject says hit the curb 283 00:10:37,980 --> 00:10:42,159 [Music] 284 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:45,950 when they pull brian and gabby over it's 285 00:10:42,159 --> 00:10:48,078 a turning point in this story 286 00:10:45,950 --> 00:10:49,600 [Applause] 287 00:10:48,078 --> 00:10:51,838 what's your guys's names 288 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:53,759 i'm ryan gabby brian okay 289 00:10:51,839 --> 00:10:57,120 what's going on 290 00:10:53,759 --> 00:11:01,120 i was hiring this inviting this morning 291 00:10:57,120 --> 00:11:01,120 some personal indians it's a long 292 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:10,479 i was distracting him i'm driving i'm 293 00:11:08,639 --> 00:11:12,480 sorry can i get you to step out of the 294 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:15,039 vehicle for me now yeah the body cam 295 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:17,839 footage was a real social media vs 296 00:11:15,039 --> 00:11:19,679 reality moment huge contrast between her 297 00:11:17,839 --> 00:11:21,360 public instagram and their youtube 298 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:22,799 videos 299 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:24,159 first what you saw in the body camera 300 00:11:22,799 --> 00:11:28,120 footage which 301 00:11:24,159 --> 00:11:28,120 seemed like a peek behind the curtain 302 00:11:33,179 --> 00:11:36,379 [Applause] 303 00:11:39,149 --> 00:11:43,360 [Applause] 304 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:44,800 i might just like 305 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:47,600 i guess 306 00:11:44,799 --> 00:11:49,199 my vibe is like 307 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:50,959 in a bad mood 308 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:52,079 without the body cam footage all i 309 00:11:50,958 --> 00:11:54,559 thought was 310 00:11:52,078 --> 00:11:56,239 this looks really toxic and 311 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:58,319 then i thought these are two people who 312 00:11:56,240 --> 00:12:00,000 are struggling where do you go to 313 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:00,959 decompress and get away from somebody 314 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:03,600 you're in the middle of a fight with 315 00:12:00,958 --> 00:12:05,359 somebody and you live in a tiny car 316 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:09,639 together 317 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:09,639 so i've been building my website 318 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:15,799 [Applause] 319 00:12:17,679 --> 00:12:23,199 brian laundry made light of what she was 320 00:12:20,958 --> 00:12:27,119 doing that she was in a bad mood because 321 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:27,120 she was working on her little project 322 00:12:27,740 --> 00:12:30,899 [Applause] 323 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:39,360 now another 324 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:40,480 law enforcement speaks to gabby about 325 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:42,480 hey 326 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:44,639 this is a toxic relationship if you ever 327 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:47,200 considered life on your own 328 00:12:44,639 --> 00:12:49,200 or leaving this now think about it and 329 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:53,079 what's his name is it brian is he 330 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:53,079 usually pretty patient with you 331 00:12:54,049 --> 00:12:57,178 [Applause] 332 00:13:00,078 --> 00:13:05,039 you know you have anxiety look at the 333 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:06,480 look at the situations you can get in 334 00:13:05,039 --> 00:13:09,120 you know what i mean 335 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:10,560 the officers questioned ms potato again 336 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:13,679 multiple times 337 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:15,919 and asked her directly were you struck 338 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:17,278 by mr laundry is there something on your 339 00:13:15,919 --> 00:13:19,120 cheek here 340 00:13:17,278 --> 00:13:21,120 looks like did he get did you get hit in 341 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:22,000 the face 342 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:23,839 kind of looks like something like 343 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:25,360 hitting you in the face 344 00:13:23,839 --> 00:13:26,959 and then over on your arm 345 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:28,639 shoulder right here 346 00:13:26,958 --> 00:13:30,958 that's new huh 347 00:13:28,639 --> 00:13:32,959 have a new mark 348 00:13:30,958 --> 00:13:36,078 can i see the other side of your face 349 00:13:32,958 --> 00:13:36,958 so what happened here and here 350 00:13:36,078 --> 00:13:39,919 um 351 00:13:36,958 --> 00:13:41,518 i'm not sure it wasn't 352 00:13:39,919 --> 00:13:43,990 that's i was just trying to get back in 353 00:13:41,519 --> 00:13:45,759 the car and his backpack coming back 354 00:13:43,990 --> 00:13:49,440 [Applause] 355 00:13:45,759 --> 00:13:51,919 so the backpack gotcha she had bruises 356 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:54,959 on her left arm that she blamed on an 357 00:13:51,919 --> 00:13:56,479 inanimate object a backpack 358 00:13:54,958 --> 00:13:58,159 so there's two people that came to us 359 00:13:56,480 --> 00:13:59,360 and told us that they saw him hit you 360 00:13:58,159 --> 00:14:02,759 there's two people saying that they saw 361 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:02,759 him punch you 362 00:14:02,799 --> 00:14:08,078 and i've got a news flash for everybody 363 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:11,278 when brian laundry struck her in the 364 00:14:08,078 --> 00:14:12,958 face in broad daylight i guarantee you 365 00:14:11,278 --> 00:14:13,759 that was not the first time he had hit 366 00:14:12,958 --> 00:14:15,439 her 367 00:14:13,759 --> 00:14:16,879 now anytime we talk about demeanor it's 368 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:19,199 subjective 369 00:14:16,879 --> 00:14:20,639 i'm giving you my take gabby's pretty 370 00:14:19,198 --> 00:14:21,919 hysterical 371 00:14:20,639 --> 00:14:23,519 she is 372 00:14:21,919 --> 00:14:26,399 defensive 373 00:14:23,519 --> 00:14:28,799 of herself and of brian 374 00:14:26,399 --> 00:14:30,399 and begins to take responsibility for 375 00:14:28,799 --> 00:14:32,719 what's been going on 376 00:14:30,399 --> 00:14:33,919 even suggesting that she herself was the 377 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:35,170 aggressor 378 00:14:33,919 --> 00:14:36,879 in any physical 379 00:14:35,169 --> 00:14:39,039 [Applause] 380 00:14:36,879 --> 00:14:41,360 you slapped him first 381 00:14:39,039 --> 00:14:41,360 on his face 382 00:14:41,679 --> 00:14:46,399 there are relationships in which women 383 00:14:43,679 --> 00:14:48,719 are aggressively violent toward men 384 00:14:46,399 --> 00:14:50,639 but in the vast majority of domestic 385 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:53,600 violence situations the men are the 386 00:14:50,639 --> 00:14:55,680 aggressors and the women in public when 387 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:56,959 questioned about it especially by law 388 00:14:55,679 --> 00:14:59,519 enforcement 389 00:14:56,958 --> 00:15:02,399 will often take responsibility for it 390 00:14:59,519 --> 00:15:04,799 out of fear that the aggressor the man 391 00:15:02,399 --> 00:15:06,879 in their relationship will be more angry 392 00:15:04,799 --> 00:15:09,359 if they don't i do want to emphasize 393 00:15:06,879 --> 00:15:11,039 that we do not know what happened 394 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:13,360 between these two people we want to know 395 00:15:11,039 --> 00:15:14,399 the truth if he actually hit you 396 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:16,560 because you know 397 00:15:14,399 --> 00:15:18,240 [Applause] 398 00:15:16,559 --> 00:15:20,559 i would have had about 50 questions to 399 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:22,639 ask her about what he's done in the past 400 00:15:20,559 --> 00:15:24,559 has he ever hit you has he ever tried to 401 00:15:22,639 --> 00:15:27,680 choke you out getting her to describe 402 00:15:24,559 --> 00:15:30,159 the dynamic between the two of them 403 00:15:27,679 --> 00:15:33,198 she totally covers for him she was 404 00:15:30,159 --> 00:15:35,439 apologizing she was deferential she was 405 00:15:33,198 --> 00:15:38,240 upset she was crying 406 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:40,560 she kept taking the blame where did he 407 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:40,560 hit you 408 00:15:44,990 --> 00:15:48,269 [Applause] 409 00:15:49,198 --> 00:15:54,039 do you slap your face or what i like 410 00:15:57,278 --> 00:16:00,639 so they have a couple questions for 411 00:15:58,639 --> 00:16:02,399 gabby and depending upon how she answers 412 00:16:00,639 --> 00:16:03,680 those questions that will determine the 413 00:16:02,399 --> 00:16:06,000 outcome 414 00:16:03,679 --> 00:16:07,439 this is a very very important question 415 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:09,759 how you answer this question is going to 416 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:11,279 determine what happens next 417 00:16:09,759 --> 00:16:14,680 but the only person who can answer this 418 00:16:11,278 --> 00:16:14,679 question is you 419 00:16:19,279 --> 00:16:24,799 [Applause] 420 00:16:23,500 --> 00:16:26,159 [Music] 421 00:16:24,799 --> 00:16:28,199 throughout the 422 00:16:26,159 --> 00:16:29,360 moab incident 423 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:32,000 [Music] 424 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:35,800 gabby is extremely distressed what 425 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:35,799 happened what's going on 426 00:16:37,198 --> 00:16:41,039 she's the one crying she's the one 427 00:16:39,198 --> 00:16:44,319 gasping for breath 428 00:16:41,039 --> 00:16:47,039 seeing her in distress in that moment 429 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:49,199 really bonded people to her i thought at 430 00:16:47,039 --> 00:16:50,399 first are these people high 431 00:16:49,198 --> 00:16:52,559 are they sober 432 00:16:50,399 --> 00:16:54,639 why are they acting so strangely hey we 433 00:16:52,559 --> 00:16:55,679 got a call about a male hitting a female 434 00:16:54,639 --> 00:16:59,198 and the two of them getting in this 435 00:16:55,679 --> 00:17:01,599 vehicle taking off officer pratt's video 436 00:16:59,198 --> 00:17:04,798 shows him approach mr laundry while he 437 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:08,318 is still seated in that white van and 438 00:17:04,798 --> 00:17:12,000 officer pratt asks him multiple times if 439 00:17:08,318 --> 00:17:14,798 he has struck miss potato so 440 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:16,640 i i i i don't try to defend myself by 441 00:17:14,798 --> 00:17:18,720 saying here i pushed her away she gets 442 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:20,160 really worked up they officially take 443 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:21,519 brian out of the truck let's go ahead 444 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:24,000 and get you to step out of the map and 445 00:17:21,519 --> 00:17:26,160 talk to him trying to figure out exactly 446 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:27,759 what's happened 447 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:31,038 mr laundry's demeanor at the time of the 448 00:17:27,759 --> 00:17:34,400 stop was typical in that visibly 449 00:17:31,038 --> 00:17:36,000 unperturbed tell me what's going on 450 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:37,440 you see this gets worked up sometimes 451 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:39,119 and i try and really this is my cell 452 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:40,480 phone so like i locked the car and i 453 00:17:39,119 --> 00:17:42,879 won't believe it 454 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:46,558 the interesting dynamic is that brian 455 00:17:42,880 --> 00:17:49,360 laundry is really calm and there's such 456 00:17:46,558 --> 00:17:51,440 a discrepancy that it's almost an 457 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:53,519 intentional way to discredit her 458 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:54,798 experience i think our little swab has 459 00:17:53,519 --> 00:17:56,319 started because you're hanging out at 460 00:17:54,798 --> 00:17:58,319 the coffee shop and when we got back to 461 00:17:56,319 --> 00:17:59,439 the gym there's some dirty something man 462 00:17:58,319 --> 00:18:01,599 and i 463 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:03,279 food around i wouldn't even involve this 464 00:18:01,599 --> 00:18:06,079 there's a few little little things just 465 00:18:03,279 --> 00:18:07,599 a little relationship 466 00:18:06,079 --> 00:18:09,759 i've been married for over five years 467 00:18:07,599 --> 00:18:11,759 now there's a lot of little things 468 00:18:09,759 --> 00:18:14,400 you see him connecting with the officers 469 00:18:11,759 --> 00:18:16,798 on an interpersonal level also their 470 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:19,120 story was that they'd had similar kind 471 00:18:16,798 --> 00:18:20,240 of discord with their own relationship 472 00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:21,759 that's one thing that people really 473 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:23,839 weren't happy about they're like why are 474 00:18:21,759 --> 00:18:25,279 they offering him help on how to deal 475 00:18:23,839 --> 00:18:29,000 with this when this looks like a 476 00:18:25,279 --> 00:18:29,000 domestic violence situation 477 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:34,319 they arrived at the scene and they 478 00:18:31,038 --> 00:18:34,319 noticed marks on his neck 479 00:18:35,759 --> 00:18:39,599 he's actually got some surface cuts 480 00:18:38,079 --> 00:18:42,798 there's some blood i said let's just 481 00:18:39,599 --> 00:18:42,798 take a breather from this time 482 00:18:54,000 --> 00:19:00,400 gabby's account of what had happened 483 00:18:56,640 --> 00:19:00,400 so you pushed her to meet you 484 00:19:00,558 --> 00:19:04,000 it wasn't like a push and she jumped for 485 00:19:01,919 --> 00:19:04,000 me 486 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:07,280 i don't know 487 00:19:08,079 --> 00:19:14,240 once you get the wheels of justice going 488 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:14,240 it's hard to put on the brakes 489 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:24,558 it is not irrational 490 00:19:21,759 --> 00:19:26,879 when he has scratches on his neck to be 491 00:19:24,558 --> 00:19:28,160 asking him questions about how he got 492 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:31,600 them 493 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:34,000 but what they didn't ask enough was 494 00:19:31,599 --> 00:19:39,079 why did we get a call from someone 495 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:39,079 saying you were hitting her 496 00:19:39,519 --> 00:19:41,240 do you mind lifting up your right sleeve 497 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:44,329 for me 498 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:44,328 [Applause] 499 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:48,918 i suppose fingernails but i'm not 500 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:51,679 fighting i'm not 501 00:19:48,919 --> 00:19:53,038 complaining or anything like that i'm 502 00:19:51,679 --> 00:19:54,320 fine i love you 503 00:19:53,038 --> 00:19:55,440 i don't see this as many complaints 504 00:19:54,319 --> 00:19:57,839 about me 505 00:19:55,440 --> 00:20:00,960 so brian laundry 506 00:19:57,839 --> 00:20:03,439 is trying to portray himself as victim 507 00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:05,600 but also trying to say but hey you know 508 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:07,299 it's not that big a deal 509 00:20:05,599 --> 00:20:08,639 she just kind of gets this way 510 00:20:07,299 --> 00:20:10,798 [Music] 511 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:12,159 and i think that was part of the problem 512 00:20:10,798 --> 00:20:13,599 here is that the 513 00:20:12,159 --> 00:20:15,039 police ended up 514 00:20:13,599 --> 00:20:17,759 believing that 515 00:20:15,038 --> 00:20:20,000 look these are not easy situations and i 516 00:20:17,759 --> 00:20:23,679 think the police were really trying to 517 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:23,679 figure it out so at this point 518 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:27,519 the primary aggressor 519 00:20:25,679 --> 00:20:29,360 be the male or be the female 520 00:20:27,519 --> 00:20:32,558 we shall rest 521 00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:35,678 it seemed to me that they chose to 522 00:20:32,558 --> 00:20:37,599 ignore the previous 9-1-1 call 523 00:20:35,679 --> 00:20:39,440 where there's clear evidence that 524 00:20:37,599 --> 00:20:42,399 laundry had just beaten 525 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:42,400 gabby potito 526 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:49,759 the entire moab incident hinged on one 527 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:51,759 thing and that is naming gabby potato as 528 00:20:49,759 --> 00:20:54,000 the aggressor 529 00:20:51,759 --> 00:20:56,158 she appeared to be the aggressor and she 530 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:58,400 said she was the arrester now do i 531 00:20:56,159 --> 00:21:00,640 believe that no 532 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:03,120 but the police can only go the evidence 533 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:05,520 they are given they had no basis on 534 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:08,479 which to arrest brian 535 00:21:05,519 --> 00:21:10,079 if anything they could have arrested her 536 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:12,159 we can't treat this differently than if 537 00:21:10,079 --> 00:21:13,918 it was a male on female violence 538 00:21:12,159 --> 00:21:15,440 we're gonna have to charge her it is 539 00:21:13,919 --> 00:21:16,559 also evident to me that during the 540 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:18,558 course of 541 00:21:16,558 --> 00:21:20,639 their interactions with both parties the 542 00:21:18,558 --> 00:21:22,000 officers felt that was not the right 543 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:24,480 course of action 544 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:26,319 in no way shape or form that i can 545 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:28,839 perceive 546 00:21:26,319 --> 00:21:31,200 what happened here a little slap fight 547 00:21:28,839 --> 00:21:33,119 between fiancees who love each other 548 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:34,720 want to be together 549 00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:36,239 can i perceive that this is going to 550 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:38,000 digress into the situation where he's 551 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:39,519 going to be a better man 552 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:40,640 right but then again i don't have a 553 00:21:39,519 --> 00:21:42,158 crystal ball 554 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:45,320 oh this is really bad news let's talk to 555 00:21:42,159 --> 00:21:45,320 him first 556 00:21:45,759 --> 00:21:49,038 i unfortunately interested in utah the 557 00:21:47,599 --> 00:21:50,639 state legislature doesn't give us 558 00:21:49,038 --> 00:21:53,519 discretion on who's charged when opposed 559 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:54,880 to a domestic assault and your own 560 00:21:53,519 --> 00:21:57,038 companions 561 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:58,480 have made it clear that she was the 562 00:21:57,038 --> 00:22:00,158 primary aggressor 563 00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:02,079 and then she was striking you in the 564 00:22:00,159 --> 00:22:04,640 same interviews so at this point you're 565 00:22:02,079 --> 00:22:06,639 the people that mention that 566 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:09,520 even if you didn't want to pursue this 567 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:09,520 you don't have a choice 568 00:22:10,319 --> 00:22:14,720 they print brian's story and now they 569 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:17,600 have to decide what to do what are their 570 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:21,159 next steps do they arrest gabby ryan i 571 00:22:17,599 --> 00:22:21,158 don't want to be separated 572 00:22:23,369 --> 00:22:38,158 [Music] 573 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:39,919 so look 574 00:22:38,159 --> 00:22:41,679 i'm going to speak to you frankly i have 575 00:22:39,919 --> 00:22:43,759 a daughter almost your age 576 00:22:41,679 --> 00:22:45,440 and i'm looking at you not so much like 577 00:22:43,759 --> 00:22:47,440 a suspect 578 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:49,679 but also it's kind of a victim in the 579 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:51,038 sense that stuff you did today that 580 00:22:49,679 --> 00:22:52,798 contributed to because you both 581 00:22:51,038 --> 00:22:55,200 contributed to this 582 00:22:52,798 --> 00:22:56,400 is as a result of your inability to cope 583 00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:57,440 with the anxiety and the stress that 584 00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:59,360 you're having 585 00:22:57,440 --> 00:23:00,960 normally we take people to jail but he's 586 00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:03,279 trying to work so you can just have the 587 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:03,279 van 588 00:23:03,599 --> 00:23:07,678 in some states when there's been a 589 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:10,480 domestic violence incident there can be 590 00:23:07,679 --> 00:23:12,480 a mandatory separation imposed 591 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:14,240 those kinds of separations 592 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:15,759 can save a life 593 00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:18,089 nobody wanted to go to jail they didn't 594 00:23:15,759 --> 00:23:19,619 want to be separated 595 00:23:18,089 --> 00:23:25,599 [Applause] 596 00:23:19,619 --> 00:23:27,439 [Laughter] 597 00:23:25,599 --> 00:23:29,439 the very best thing i can do is call my 598 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:30,880 supervisor and see if i'm missing 599 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:33,759 something here 600 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:35,919 she gets extremely agitated when she 601 00:23:33,759 --> 00:23:38,960 believes they are going to be separated 602 00:23:35,919 --> 00:23:42,720 and or being separated from her van 603 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:45,519 and let me point out that it's not just 604 00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:49,519 a van this is where she's living 605 00:23:45,519 --> 00:23:51,359 this is also her livelihood her dream 606 00:23:49,519 --> 00:23:52,720 i think when miss potato is 607 00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:55,599 informed by the officers that there may 608 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:57,839 be an impending arrest she's frightened 609 00:23:55,599 --> 00:24:00,798 i'll play any driving to get a party to 610 00:23:57,839 --> 00:24:02,798 get anything her reaction causes the 611 00:24:00,798 --> 00:24:04,240 officers to re-evaluate those officers 612 00:24:02,798 --> 00:24:06,639 were heading down the path of making an 613 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:08,400 arrest and they changed the direction 614 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:10,640 in the police report that they filed in 615 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:12,559 moab the officer made it clear that the 616 00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:14,240 couple stated that they were in love 617 00:24:12,558 --> 00:24:16,000 they were engaged to be married and they 618 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:18,000 didn't want to see anyone go to jail 619 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:19,038 that night or face any charges we 620 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:20,240 understand you're not even wanting to 621 00:24:19,038 --> 00:24:22,400 pursue this but the cops have to follow 622 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:25,038 the statute there is no doubt in my mind 623 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:26,720 that the moab police had had training in 624 00:24:25,038 --> 00:24:29,200 domestic violence 625 00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:32,960 because they kept going back to the 626 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:32,960 statute back to what proper 627 00:24:34,558 --> 00:24:38,240 there was a significant debate that was 628 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:40,000 occurring on the scene about the 629 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:42,400 appropriateness of a physical arrest or 630 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:44,240 not how far do you want to go with this 631 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:46,240 so i went and i looked at 632 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:48,000 the code for assault if you go ask her 633 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:49,278 what was your intention when you were 634 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:51,759 slapping him 635 00:24:49,278 --> 00:24:53,440 and she says i wanted him to hurt or be 636 00:24:51,759 --> 00:24:55,200 ill or in paris physical condition then 637 00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:57,679 there's nothing we can do whatever she 638 00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:58,880 answers that question will seal her fate 639 00:24:57,679 --> 00:25:00,720 right 640 00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:02,080 if it became clear 641 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:04,558 that she had the 642 00:25:02,079 --> 00:25:06,798 intent to hit him and she was not acting 643 00:25:04,558 --> 00:25:08,399 in self-defense the police clearly 644 00:25:06,798 --> 00:25:08,529 believed they would have had to arrest 645 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:10,798 him 646 00:25:08,529 --> 00:25:13,119 [Applause] 647 00:25:10,798 --> 00:25:14,558 this is a very very important question 648 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:17,599 how you answer this question is going to 649 00:25:14,558 --> 00:25:19,359 determine what happens next 650 00:25:17,599 --> 00:25:22,879 when you 651 00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:25,199 slapped him those times 652 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:27,360 were you attempting to cause him 653 00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:28,720 physical pain or physical impairment was 654 00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:29,109 that what you were attempting to do to 655 00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:37,600 him 656 00:25:29,109 --> 00:25:39,918 [Applause] 657 00:25:37,599 --> 00:25:42,000 they did what appeared to be a pretty 658 00:25:39,919 --> 00:25:43,600 thorough investigation at the scene for 659 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:45,759 over an hour 660 00:25:43,599 --> 00:25:47,759 talking to each one of them talking 661 00:25:45,759 --> 00:25:49,919 among themselves 662 00:25:47,759 --> 00:25:51,599 not really getting that critical element 663 00:25:49,919 --> 00:25:53,278 of assault 664 00:25:51,599 --> 00:25:56,678 all right brian she claims that she did 665 00:25:53,278 --> 00:25:56,679 not have them 666 00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:19,199 and make them cool down basically for 24 667 00:26:17,599 --> 00:26:23,319 hours 668 00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:23,319 these kids didn't have any money 669 00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:31,759 the domestic violence provider says to 670 00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:32,558 them 671 00:26:31,759 --> 00:26:34,558 no 672 00:26:32,558 --> 00:26:37,038 we cannot pay for a hotel room for ms 673 00:26:34,558 --> 00:26:39,839 potato because she is identified as the 674 00:26:37,038 --> 00:26:39,839 primary aggressor 675 00:26:40,159 --> 00:26:45,200 so instead of sending her 676 00:26:42,558 --> 00:26:47,038 to a hotel they send her off in the van 677 00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:48,159 here's that i'm giving him a ride over 678 00:26:47,038 --> 00:26:49,119 to the hotel 679 00:26:48,159 --> 00:26:50,480 okay 680 00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:53,038 so 681 00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:53,038 everything's gonna 682 00:26:55,019 --> 00:27:03,900 [Laughter] 683 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:10,000 not like far 684 00:27:07,519 --> 00:27:11,679 she's concerned about driving the van by 685 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:13,519 herself and 686 00:27:11,679 --> 00:27:14,798 knowing where the hotel where he's going 687 00:27:13,519 --> 00:27:18,319 to be is 688 00:27:14,798 --> 00:27:20,960 gabby asks how near is this hotel is he 689 00:27:18,319 --> 00:27:22,398 going to be nearby it is 690 00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:25,038 striking to 691 00:27:22,398 --> 00:27:26,798 listen to gabby feel like 692 00:27:25,038 --> 00:27:29,278 she needs brian 693 00:27:26,798 --> 00:27:31,918 if the cops had arrested him would gabby 694 00:27:29,278 --> 00:27:34,159 be alive today would that have changed 695 00:27:31,919 --> 00:27:35,679 the course of these events the hard 696 00:27:34,159 --> 00:27:37,278 truth 697 00:27:35,679 --> 00:27:39,679 maybe 698 00:27:37,278 --> 00:27:41,200 she may still be alive today if he had 699 00:27:39,679 --> 00:27:42,640 been arrested 700 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:44,720 or not 701 00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:46,480 the city of moab launched an independent 702 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:48,720 investigation into the handling of the 703 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:50,240 incident but declined to comment at this 704 00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:51,839 time 705 00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:53,278 so after the incident in moab they 706 00:27:51,839 --> 00:27:57,439 continue on their journey and then 707 00:27:53,278 --> 00:28:00,240 august 25th she posts what was her last 708 00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:03,120 photo on social media 709 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:05,359 final post had people really scratching 710 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:07,038 their heads it's a photo of her holding 711 00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:07,918 this little pumpkin in the middle of the 712 00:28:07,038 --> 00:28:09,809 summer 713 00:28:07,919 --> 00:28:12,910 what was that all about 714 00:28:09,809 --> 00:28:17,048 [Applause] 715 00:28:12,910 --> 00:28:17,048 [Music] 716 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:22,558 so shortly after this incident in utah 717 00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:24,399 where police had responded to a fight 718 00:28:22,558 --> 00:28:25,440 between brian and gabby 719 00:28:24,398 --> 00:28:28,558 gabby 720 00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:31,679 is going to post this famous now final 721 00:28:28,558 --> 00:28:33,038 youtube video you would have no idea 722 00:28:31,679 --> 00:28:35,120 that this was a couple who was in a 723 00:28:33,038 --> 00:28:36,398 serious fight all the chocolate 724 00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:38,558 mountains 725 00:28:36,398 --> 00:28:41,119 it's a river of chocolate you can't keep 726 00:28:38,558 --> 00:28:43,038 chocolate in utah 727 00:28:41,119 --> 00:28:45,119 not in july 728 00:28:43,038 --> 00:28:48,480 it was five days after that police stop 729 00:28:45,119 --> 00:28:52,158 in moab when something strange happens 730 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:55,440 brian goes home on the 17th 731 00:28:52,159 --> 00:28:58,640 brian alone hops a plane in salt lake 732 00:28:55,440 --> 00:29:01,038 city and flies all the way back home 733 00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:03,600 according to the laundry family attorney 734 00:29:01,038 --> 00:29:05,599 the reason brian flew back was to pick 735 00:29:03,599 --> 00:29:08,558 up some items and close up a storage 736 00:29:05,599 --> 00:29:10,158 space to save money 737 00:29:08,558 --> 00:29:11,678 that couldn't have been cheap have 738 00:29:10,159 --> 00:29:14,080 another fight 739 00:29:11,679 --> 00:29:16,159 did they need to split for a while and 740 00:29:14,079 --> 00:29:19,519 cool off 741 00:29:16,159 --> 00:29:21,278 so according to her father gabby was in 742 00:29:19,519 --> 00:29:23,679 salt lake city working really on her 743 00:29:21,278 --> 00:29:25,519 youtube page at that point 744 00:29:23,679 --> 00:29:27,759 the whole thing seems odd to me and 745 00:29:25,519 --> 00:29:31,839 particularly odd when you think in 746 00:29:27,759 --> 00:29:31,839 another six or seven days she's dead 747 00:29:32,159 --> 00:29:37,520 august 23rd brian then flies back to 748 00:29:34,798 --> 00:29:41,278 utah from florida to get back with gabby 749 00:29:37,519 --> 00:29:42,798 and they continue on their road trip 750 00:29:41,278 --> 00:29:45,038 once they're back together there's a 751 00:29:42,798 --> 00:29:48,079 pose from gabby that really raises 752 00:29:45,038 --> 00:29:50,319 eyebrows the pumpkin post her last post 753 00:29:48,079 --> 00:29:53,519 was on august 25th 754 00:29:50,319 --> 00:29:56,158 gabby in the photo has perfect hair 755 00:29:53,519 --> 00:29:57,918 after being on a trip for two months in 756 00:29:56,159 --> 00:30:00,480 a van 757 00:29:57,919 --> 00:30:02,080 and she's holding a pumpkin and writes 758 00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:04,159 happy halloween 759 00:30:02,079 --> 00:30:06,000 which is odd because it was posted on 760 00:30:04,159 --> 00:30:09,200 august 25th 761 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:11,359 so in gabby's latest instagram post her 762 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:13,278 roots are not there 763 00:30:11,359 --> 00:30:14,398 especially in comparison to some of them 764 00:30:13,278 --> 00:30:16,798 before that 765 00:30:14,398 --> 00:30:19,839 it seemed as if she had taken that 766 00:30:16,798 --> 00:30:21,200 at some point and was planning to use it 767 00:30:19,839 --> 00:30:24,000 at halloween 768 00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:26,880 it didn't fit in with all of her other 769 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:26,880 blog postings 770 00:30:27,839 --> 00:30:32,959 and then in late august people saw brian 771 00:30:30,798 --> 00:30:35,278 get in another fight at mary piglet's 772 00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:37,519 restaurant in jackson wyoming witnesses 773 00:30:35,278 --> 00:30:39,519 reported a lot of screaming him yelling 774 00:30:37,519 --> 00:30:41,359 at the restaurant staff going in and out 775 00:30:39,519 --> 00:30:43,119 of the restaurant 776 00:30:41,359 --> 00:30:44,558 he was really angry that's the best way 777 00:30:43,119 --> 00:30:46,639 i can describe it he was just very 778 00:30:44,558 --> 00:30:48,720 visibly angry 779 00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:51,679 and in that moment gabby reminded me a 780 00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:53,038 lot of how she seemed in that body cam 781 00:30:51,679 --> 00:30:55,360 video of the cops she just seemed 782 00:30:53,038 --> 00:30:58,640 distraught she seemed really upset she 783 00:30:55,359 --> 00:30:58,639 was emotional she was crying 784 00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:03,360 and then people saw him get into this 785 00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:05,038 van and 786 00:31:03,359 --> 00:31:07,199 that leave to me 787 00:31:05,038 --> 00:31:10,798 that the pressure between the two of 788 00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:12,480 them in particular in brian is building 789 00:31:10,798 --> 00:31:14,079 what we would later know 790 00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:18,038 is that that was the last time gabby 791 00:31:14,079 --> 00:31:18,038 petito was seen in public 792 00:31:18,159 --> 00:31:22,559 from the youtube video their 793 00:31:19,679 --> 00:31:24,320 relationship seemed solid but clearly it 794 00:31:22,558 --> 00:31:26,798 wasn't showing everything 795 00:31:24,319 --> 00:31:27,839 it does appear that their relationship 796 00:31:26,798 --> 00:31:30,839 was 797 00:31:27,839 --> 00:31:33,678 what some would term toxic they would 798 00:31:30,839 --> 00:31:35,599 fight according to gabby's mother during 799 00:31:33,679 --> 00:31:37,519 her conversations with gabby during the 800 00:31:35,599 --> 00:31:39,918 trip there appeared to be more and more 801 00:31:37,519 --> 00:31:42,558 tension between gabby and brian 802 00:31:39,919 --> 00:31:44,399 so we know that the last time gabby 803 00:31:42,558 --> 00:31:46,158 spoke to her mother 804 00:31:44,398 --> 00:31:48,158 she told her mother they were in grand 805 00:31:46,159 --> 00:31:51,120 teton national park and they were likely 806 00:31:48,159 --> 00:31:53,919 headed to yellowstone 807 00:31:51,119 --> 00:31:55,678 after that conversation over the phone 808 00:31:53,919 --> 00:31:58,320 gabby's mother started receiving some 809 00:31:55,679 --> 00:32:00,399 odd text messages 810 00:31:58,319 --> 00:32:03,038 the text message to her mother was can 811 00:32:00,398 --> 00:32:05,199 you help stan i just keep getting his 812 00:32:03,038 --> 00:32:09,119 voicemails and missed calls 813 00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:11,360 called her grandfather by his name stan 814 00:32:09,119 --> 00:32:14,158 the last contact that 815 00:32:11,359 --> 00:32:15,519 gabby's mother has from her daughter is 816 00:32:14,159 --> 00:32:18,559 august 30th 817 00:32:15,519 --> 00:32:20,720 she gets a text that says 818 00:32:18,558 --> 00:32:23,038 no service in yosemite 819 00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:25,679 which is strange because it's so brief 820 00:32:23,038 --> 00:32:28,079 but also they weren't going to yosemite 821 00:32:25,679 --> 00:32:29,038 that's hundreds and hundreds of miles 822 00:32:28,079 --> 00:32:31,199 away 823 00:32:29,038 --> 00:32:34,240 so mom knew immediately something was 824 00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:36,640 very very wrong gabby's mother is really 825 00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:39,120 concerned she hasn't had a face-to-face 826 00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:41,038 video call with her daughter in days 827 00:32:39,119 --> 00:32:43,839 and more days are passing and now 828 00:32:41,038 --> 00:32:45,839 there's no contact whatsoever where is 829 00:32:43,839 --> 00:32:48,000 she i was texting her every day anyway 830 00:32:45,839 --> 00:32:50,240 but i wasn't getting responses 831 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:52,798 by day six seven i was checking her 832 00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:54,240 social media i didn't see any activity 833 00:32:52,798 --> 00:32:56,720 i'm worried and everybody was like she's 834 00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:58,960 fine she's fine they're out in the 835 00:32:56,720 --> 00:33:01,120 mountains they have no signal and i said 836 00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:03,759 no it's not like her unbeknownst to 837 00:33:01,119 --> 00:33:06,319 gabby's mother brian laundry has driven 838 00:33:03,759 --> 00:33:08,319 gabby's van back to florida he arrives 839 00:33:06,319 --> 00:33:10,960 on september 1st 840 00:33:08,319 --> 00:33:13,918 authorities say brian used a debit card 841 00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:16,240 that was not his to withdraw a thousand 842 00:33:13,919 --> 00:33:20,000 dollars and he made his way all the way 843 00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:21,440 back home to florida with no sign of gap 844 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:24,159 according to the laundry's family 845 00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:25,679 attorney the card in question is gabby's 846 00:33:24,159 --> 00:33:26,720 debit card 847 00:33:25,679 --> 00:33:29,519 brian 848 00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:31,440 laundry shows up 849 00:33:29,519 --> 00:33:33,440 back in florida 850 00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:36,320 without gabby 851 00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:38,159 and seemingly unconcerned about her 852 00:33:36,319 --> 00:33:40,720 whereabouts so what's that about lady 853 00:33:38,159 --> 00:33:43,840 red lights go off in my head when i hear 854 00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:46,319 that he has left his fiancee 855 00:33:43,839 --> 00:33:47,759 and that's when everybody becomes deeply 856 00:33:46,319 --> 00:33:50,558 concerned 857 00:33:47,759 --> 00:33:53,200 about gabby's well-being and whereabouts 858 00:33:50,558 --> 00:33:54,879 and deeply suspicious of ryan laundry 859 00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:56,640 developments tonight 860 00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:58,399 desperate for answers this is where 861 00:33:56,640 --> 00:34:01,519 things really 862 00:33:58,398 --> 00:34:03,359 get weird and when the story becomes a 863 00:34:01,519 --> 00:34:06,399 national story it starts to spin out of 864 00:34:03,359 --> 00:34:08,319 control lights cameras reporters we are 865 00:34:06,398 --> 00:34:10,638 everywhere this girl right here this is 866 00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:12,399 what matters everybody wanted to find 867 00:34:10,639 --> 00:34:14,159 this woman it opened up this broader 868 00:34:12,398 --> 00:34:16,000 conversation about 869 00:34:14,159 --> 00:34:17,838 missing women and specifically missing 870 00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:20,480 black and indigenous women and the lack 871 00:34:17,838 --> 00:34:23,519 of attention there's an explosion on the 872 00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:25,280 internet crime junkies go crazy the 873 00:34:23,519 --> 00:34:27,759 theory that has been circulating i think 874 00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:30,879 he had just dumped her body it was so 875 00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:34,830 eerie that i couldn't even believe it 876 00:34:30,878 --> 00:34:37,480 was happening in real life 877 00:34:34,829 --> 00:34:37,539 [Music] 878 00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:39,519 [Applause] 879 00:34:37,539 --> 00:34:41,918 [Music] 880 00:34:39,519 --> 00:34:42,960 lights cameras reporters we are 881 00:34:41,918 --> 00:34:44,799 everywhere 882 00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:45,838 two people went on a trip one person 883 00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:47,200 returned 884 00:34:45,838 --> 00:34:49,838 this girl right here 885 00:34:47,199 --> 00:34:51,358 this is what matters everybody wanted to 886 00:34:49,838 --> 00:34:53,599 find this woman it opened up this 887 00:34:51,358 --> 00:34:55,440 broader conversation about 888 00:34:53,599 --> 00:34:57,280 missing women and specifically missing 889 00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:59,200 black and indigenous women and the the 890 00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:01,200 lack of attention 891 00:34:59,199 --> 00:35:02,399 missing my girls coming in 892 00:35:01,199 --> 00:35:05,519 my stomach 893 00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:07,920 dropped anywhere he goes anywhere 894 00:35:05,519 --> 00:35:11,119 somebody sees that guy got some strange 895 00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:14,559 looks like uh i'm not bringing any 896 00:35:11,119 --> 00:35:17,200 advice on what i should say to people 897 00:35:14,559 --> 00:35:18,320 that think i am brian laundry protesters 898 00:35:17,199 --> 00:35:20,719 started coming out and they were 899 00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:22,400 gathering outside ryan's parents house 900 00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:24,399 and they were shouting things at the 901 00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:27,119 laundry family the truth always comes 902 00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:29,200 out where's brian where's gabby brian 903 00:35:27,119 --> 00:35:31,519 laundry's notebook was found near his 904 00:35:29,199 --> 00:35:35,039 remains it could break the case open 905 00:35:31,519 --> 00:35:36,639 this is a 23 year old man come on own it 906 00:35:35,039 --> 00:35:38,960 take responsibility stand up tell us 907 00:35:36,639 --> 00:35:38,960 what you 908 00:35:42,838 --> 00:35:48,239 did hello hello and good morning ryan's 909 00:35:47,119 --> 00:35:49,440 stretching 910 00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:52,239 doing some 911 00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:54,400 morning yoga everything about gabby and 912 00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:56,639 this case is tailor-made to go viral you 913 00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:59,280 have a young attractive couple there's 914 00:35:56,639 --> 00:36:03,759 controversy 915 00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:06,160 it was so eerie and so real that i 916 00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:07,839 couldn't even believe that it was 917 00:36:06,159 --> 00:36:09,920 happening 918 00:36:07,838 --> 00:36:12,639 in real life two people went on this 919 00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:15,200 vacation and only one returned wow on 920 00:36:12,639 --> 00:36:18,719 this gabby potato cakes and so they feel 921 00:36:15,199 --> 00:36:18,719 compelled to keep talking about her 922 00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:27,200 we need to talk and i'm on the road and 923 00:36:22,159 --> 00:36:28,960 then because the case was so viral the 924 00:36:27,199 --> 00:36:31,439 theory that has been circulating i think 925 00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:33,838 he had just stumped her body it ended up 926 00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:35,920 everywhere you couldn't escape it we 927 00:36:33,838 --> 00:36:37,759 have some new information from tick tock 928 00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:38,720 i've spotted gabby's browsing facebook 929 00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:41,040 and gabby 930 00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:43,199 actually when i checked the gabby potito 931 00:36:41,039 --> 00:36:44,119 tag on tick tock he had over a billion 932 00:36:43,199 --> 00:36:46,449 hits today 933 00:36:44,119 --> 00:36:49,609 [Music] 934 00:36:46,449 --> 00:36:49,609 [Applause] 935 00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:54,400 this loving couple had been out on a 936 00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:56,880 road trip and then 937 00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:58,639 brian for whatever reason decides that 938 00:36:56,880 --> 00:37:01,280 he's going to come back to florida 939 00:36:58,639 --> 00:37:02,960 without gabby abby's family hasn't heard 940 00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:05,040 from her in days when they last checked 941 00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:06,800 in with her things seem to be going fine 942 00:37:05,039 --> 00:37:09,838 but now they're realizing that something 943 00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:09,839 here is wrong 944 00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:15,119 brian shows up back in florida on 945 00:37:12,159 --> 00:37:17,279 september 1st he's in gabby's van and 946 00:37:15,119 --> 00:37:18,960 the neighbor saw the van in the driveway 947 00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:20,960 one of the neighbors told me i did think 948 00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:22,720 it was strange that i didn't see gabby 949 00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:24,400 but what do i know i'm just a neighbor 950 00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:26,000 here 951 00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:28,000 we don't know obviously what he told his 952 00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:30,639 parents as to where his gavin we do know 953 00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:32,719 that when brian was back home in florida 954 00:37:30,639 --> 00:37:34,000 at least with his family he was 955 00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:36,959 interacting with them he was there with 956 00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:40,079 his parents the potatoes have no idea 957 00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:42,320 that brian is home in florida without 958 00:37:40,079 --> 00:37:45,280 gabby driving the van they had been 959 00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:47,359 traveling in if brian was staying at my 960 00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:50,720 house and gabby returned 961 00:37:47,358 --> 00:37:52,000 to my house without him in in his 962 00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:53,759 vehicle 963 00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:56,639 i'd be on their phone with their parents 964 00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:59,760 say we got an issue we need 965 00:37:56,639 --> 00:38:02,319 once brian got home it appeared to be 966 00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:04,240 family business as usual neighbors told 967 00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:06,320 me that they saw brian and his parents 968 00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:07,439 going for walks down the street and then 969 00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:09,599 eventually 970 00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:10,880 brian and his parents went camping for a 971 00:38:09,599 --> 00:38:13,280 few days 972 00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:16,240 they were camping in fort de soto which 973 00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:17,680 is our usual camping spot and because it 974 00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:19,358 was labor day and the kids said school 975 00:38:17,679 --> 00:38:21,279 the next day we just went for a couple 976 00:38:19,358 --> 00:38:23,598 of hours and we ate dinner and had 977 00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:25,839 s'mores around the campfire and left 978 00:38:23,599 --> 00:38:27,599 there was nothing peculiar about it she 979 00:38:25,838 --> 00:38:30,159 said she had no reason to ask about 980 00:38:27,599 --> 00:38:32,480 gabby gabby never came up and she had no 981 00:38:30,159 --> 00:38:34,000 to believe there was anything wrong i'm 982 00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:35,599 frustrated that 983 00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:36,559 in hindsight i didn't pick up on 984 00:38:35,599 --> 00:38:40,240 anything 985 00:38:36,559 --> 00:38:42,320 it was just a regular trip 986 00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:44,159 it's been 10 days since gabby's family 987 00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:46,320 has heard from her and they are worried 988 00:38:44,159 --> 00:38:48,799 enough that on september 11th they 989 00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:51,039 report her as a missing person right now 990 00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:52,640 on abc action news desperate for answers 991 00:38:51,039 --> 00:38:54,159 plus the ever expanding search for gabby 992 00:38:52,639 --> 00:38:55,598 potito tonight new developments in the 993 00:38:54,159 --> 00:38:57,598 nationwide search for a missing long 994 00:38:55,599 --> 00:38:59,359 island native gabrielle petito once the 995 00:38:57,599 --> 00:39:01,838 missing persons report has been filed 996 00:38:59,358 --> 00:39:03,358 they can go ask questions but they can't 997 00:39:01,838 --> 00:39:05,039 force anyone 998 00:39:03,358 --> 00:39:06,400 to answer them northport police when 999 00:39:05,039 --> 00:39:09,039 they were investigating gabby's 1000 00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:11,920 disappearance they were met at the door 1001 00:39:09,039 --> 00:39:13,599 by brian laundry's parents with a note 1002 00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:15,280 with contact information for their 1003 00:39:13,599 --> 00:39:19,599 attorney it's not a crime to hire a 1004 00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:22,560 defense lawyer but it really looks bad 1005 00:39:19,599 --> 00:39:24,160 it certainly looks bad to gabby's mother 1006 00:39:22,559 --> 00:39:26,000 when the detective came to my door to 1007 00:39:24,159 --> 00:39:26,960 let me know that the van was in florida 1008 00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:28,639 with him 1009 00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:31,039 she also said that he had obtained a 1010 00:39:28,639 --> 00:39:32,639 lawyer 1011 00:39:31,039 --> 00:39:35,440 i 1012 00:39:32,639 --> 00:39:37,679 almost fell on the ground because i was 1013 00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:40,720 just like where's gabby and that's that 1014 00:39:37,679 --> 00:39:42,559 was my response to that information 1015 00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:45,279 and i might just went to shock i knew 1016 00:39:42,559 --> 00:39:47,440 something was wrong so gabby petito is 1017 00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:49,359 officially missing but remember there's 1018 00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:51,358 no evidence that brian laundry was 1019 00:39:49,358 --> 00:39:53,039 involved with that the laundry family 1020 00:39:51,358 --> 00:39:55,039 lawyer released a statement saying they 1021 00:39:53,039 --> 00:39:57,358 hope the search for gabby's successful 1022 00:39:55,039 --> 00:40:00,320 and that brian will remain in the 1023 00:39:57,358 --> 00:40:02,559 background with no comment that may be a 1024 00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:04,800 smart legal strategy but not one that 1025 00:40:02,559 --> 00:40:07,519 looks good to people following the case 1026 00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:10,318 his attorney mr bernalino told the 1027 00:40:07,519 --> 00:40:13,039 parents not to talk but i think the 1028 00:40:10,318 --> 00:40:15,679 average person saying this is this is 1029 00:40:13,039 --> 00:40:17,679 not right we don't know what 1030 00:40:15,679 --> 00:40:19,919 brian knows i mean that's the bottom 1031 00:40:17,679 --> 00:40:21,598 line and we're hopeful to talk to him he 1032 00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:24,000 needs to talk to us 1033 00:40:21,599 --> 00:40:26,400 we need to know exactly where he was 1034 00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:28,480 where she was their last locations 1035 00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:30,480 brian's sister cassie says she was 1036 00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:32,318 shocked to learn that gabby was missing 1037 00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:35,760 and she hasn't heard from brian since 1038 00:40:32,318 --> 00:40:37,279 that camp out nothing radio silence 1039 00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:39,359 i have i've tried to get in touch with 1040 00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:41,200 him phone went to voicemail i didn't 1041 00:40:39,358 --> 00:40:43,199 think anything of it because he's not 1042 00:40:41,199 --> 00:40:45,279 very good at keeping his phone charged 1043 00:40:43,199 --> 00:40:46,960 so 1044 00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:49,280 everything's different when you look 1045 00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:50,400 back on it i understand what tried to do 1046 00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:52,400 with trying to protect you all right 1047 00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:54,318 you're supposed to tell your child to 1048 00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:57,200 stand up for the things that they've 1049 00:40:54,318 --> 00:40:58,880 done this is a 23 year old man but come 1050 00:40:57,199 --> 00:41:00,960 on tell us what you did tell us what you 1051 00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:03,119 didn't do tell the truth plus something 1052 00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:05,599 why can't the police department arrest 1053 00:41:03,119 --> 00:41:07,680 brian for a stolen vehicle because that 1054 00:41:05,599 --> 00:41:09,359 van was gabby's but the police 1055 00:41:07,679 --> 00:41:11,358 department was clear they had no 1056 00:41:09,358 --> 00:41:13,519 evidence that a crime had been committed 1057 00:41:11,358 --> 00:41:16,078 but the police were able to get a search 1058 00:41:13,519 --> 00:41:18,159 warrant for gabby's van looking for any 1059 00:41:16,079 --> 00:41:20,240 information on her computer hard drive 1060 00:41:18,159 --> 00:41:22,719 that could help them if she were killed 1061 00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:25,519 in the van do you have some body fluid 1062 00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:28,000 that's suspicious that's either his or 1063 00:41:25,519 --> 00:41:29,759 hers is there an indication of a 1064 00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:32,318 struggle inside the van you're going to 1065 00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:33,359 look at anything that can potentially 1066 00:41:32,318 --> 00:41:36,159 link 1067 00:41:33,358 --> 00:41:37,519 brian to gabby keeping in mind that they 1068 00:41:36,159 --> 00:41:40,159 live together 1069 00:41:37,519 --> 00:41:42,079 what i need from everybody here is help 1070 00:41:40,159 --> 00:41:44,078 the goal is still not met and that goal 1071 00:41:42,079 --> 00:41:46,000 is to bring gabby home safe there is 1072 00:41:44,079 --> 00:41:47,200 nothing else that matters to me now this 1073 00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:48,719 is what matters 1074 00:41:47,199 --> 00:41:51,358 that is it 1075 00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:54,078 anything else it comes second to this 1076 00:41:51,358 --> 00:41:56,000 so the attorney for the pedito family 1077 00:41:54,079 --> 00:41:58,079 puts out a statement directly to the 1078 00:41:56,000 --> 00:42:00,400 laundries pleading with them to come 1079 00:41:58,079 --> 00:42:02,160 forward with information they said she 1080 00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:03,920 was going to be your daughter-in-law 1081 00:42:02,159 --> 00:42:07,039 please help us 1082 00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:09,519 and then it all takes a turn tonight her 1083 00:42:07,039 --> 00:42:11,599 boyfriend is now a person of interest 1084 00:42:09,519 --> 00:42:14,159 but he's not talking the new pleas for 1085 00:42:11,599 --> 00:42:15,519 him to share what he knows if law 1086 00:42:14,159 --> 00:42:17,679 enforcement tells you they have a person 1087 00:42:15,519 --> 00:42:19,920 of interest we now know that this is a 1088 00:42:17,679 --> 00:42:21,440 serious case we've been assuming that 1089 00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:23,200 brian laundry was at home with his 1090 00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:25,039 parents but then his parents told 1091 00:42:23,199 --> 00:42:27,519 investigators that brian had gone on a 1092 00:42:25,039 --> 00:42:30,318 hike into a swamp in the carlton 1093 00:42:27,519 --> 00:42:32,480 preserve that he had left days ago and 1094 00:42:30,318 --> 00:42:34,239 that he hadn't returned 1095 00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:38,639 when we got that alert that brian 1096 00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:40,479 laundry was missing my stomach dropped i 1097 00:42:38,639 --> 00:42:42,559 remember looking at my phone and not 1098 00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:44,559 being able to believe what i was reading 1099 00:42:42,559 --> 00:42:47,440 the question everyone wanted to know is 1100 00:42:44,559 --> 00:42:49,358 brian missing or is he just hiding so 1101 00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:50,960 investigators are searching everywhere 1102 00:42:49,358 --> 00:42:53,279 for brian laundry and they're soon 1103 00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:55,358 joined by someone unexpected fox news 1104 00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:57,519 capturing dog the bounty hunter joining 1105 00:42:55,358 --> 00:42:59,440 the search knocking on the laundry door 1106 00:42:57,519 --> 00:43:00,059 boom boom boom boom i really let loose 1107 00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:03,510 on a knot 1108 00:43:00,059 --> 00:43:03,509 [Music] 1109 00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:14,000 where is gabby where is 1110 00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:16,240 police arriving to find out her fiance 1111 00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:18,880 has now vanished with neighbors now very 1112 00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:21,358 angry gathering in their yard and gabby 1113 00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:23,440 has not been heard from in weeks 1114 00:43:21,358 --> 00:43:26,078 what do you know in the very beginning 1115 00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:28,800 of this investigation at brian's parents 1116 00:43:26,079 --> 00:43:31,039 house media was lining the street up and 1117 00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:33,519 down there were so many people so many 1118 00:43:31,039 --> 00:43:35,440 reporters and media outlets in that 1119 00:43:33,519 --> 00:43:36,318 neighborhood be respectful of everyone's 1120 00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:39,200 property 1121 00:43:36,318 --> 00:43:41,838 tons of equipment lights we are 1122 00:43:39,199 --> 00:43:41,838 everywhere 1123 00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:44,880 north port police told us that they had 1124 00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:47,440 been surveilling the house and had 1125 00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:49,599 certain claims very strongly that they 1126 00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:51,760 do not know where their son is at this 1127 00:43:49,599 --> 00:43:54,400 point and they are just hoping for him 1128 00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:55,520 to come home safely 1129 00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:57,280 we're going to turn next year to the 1130 00:43:55,519 --> 00:43:59,599 search for that person of interest brian 1131 00:43:57,280 --> 00:44:01,440 laundry that search intensifying tonight 1132 00:43:59,599 --> 00:44:03,359 numerous law enforcement agencies are 1133 00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:05,760 involved in the search inside the 1134 00:44:03,358 --> 00:44:08,480 carlton reserve they're using drones 1135 00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:11,200 utvs atvs and they're searching a 1136 00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:12,480 heavily wooded area 1137 00:44:11,199 --> 00:44:14,960 75 1138 00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:17,920 of it is underwater 1139 00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:19,720 they're using vehicles that can go into 1140 00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:21,440 marshy water area 1141 00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:24,559 [Applause] 1142 00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:26,639 the carlton reserve is a 25 000 1143 00:44:24,559 --> 00:44:29,358 acre wildlife reserve that is twice the 1144 00:44:26,639 --> 00:44:30,960 size of manhattan it is massive 1145 00:44:29,358 --> 00:44:33,920 and i can tell you from being there it 1146 00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:36,639 is a rough environment 1147 00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:38,559 we do know that brian laundry has quite 1148 00:44:36,639 --> 00:44:41,279 a lot of experience camping he made that 1149 00:44:38,559 --> 00:44:42,960 clear on his social media pages so is he 1150 00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:45,680 able to survive in that type of 1151 00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:48,079 environment he reads books about it and 1152 00:44:45,679 --> 00:44:51,838 it wouldn't surprise me if he could 1153 00:44:48,079 --> 00:44:51,839 last out there a very long time 1154 00:44:51,980 --> 00:44:55,070 [Music] 1155 00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:59,280 my name's michael hawk 1156 00:44:57,039 --> 00:45:02,639 i'm retired special forces 25 years 1157 00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:05,040 combat veteran survival expert 1158 00:45:02,639 --> 00:45:06,559 if you're on the run out here trying to 1159 00:45:05,039 --> 00:45:08,800 hide he's got to get something small 1160 00:45:06,559 --> 00:45:10,400 like a baby sack on the ground right 1161 00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:12,880 which then exposes him to the critters 1162 00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:12,880 and the wetness 1163 00:45:13,358 --> 00:45:17,279 if he wants to survive out here for any 1164 00:45:15,039 --> 00:45:19,440 period of time is he's got to be able to 1165 00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:21,119 keep himself clean he's got to be able 1166 00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:22,720 to dry out his feet he's got to be able 1167 00:45:21,119 --> 00:45:24,960 to stay hydrated and those are massive 1168 00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:26,318 challenges in this environment 1169 00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:28,400 if i were going to stay here for the 1170 00:45:26,318 --> 00:45:29,358 night this would probably be a bed for 1171 00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:31,519 me 1172 00:45:29,358 --> 00:45:33,838 it'd be most comfortable but at least i 1173 00:45:31,519 --> 00:45:37,759 would be dry can dry out my feet not get 1174 00:45:33,838 --> 00:45:37,759 it by the critters this right here 1175 00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:41,760 it's gonna be my tree hugging pillow for 1176 00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:41,760 the night 1177 00:45:42,159 --> 00:45:45,759 the threats that he faces out here are 1178 00:45:44,079 --> 00:45:47,680 numerous he's got alligator he's got 1179 00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:49,200 snake he gets bit by one of those if he 1180 00:45:47,679 --> 00:45:50,960 doesn't get help within 24 hours he's 1181 00:45:49,199 --> 00:45:53,039 most likely going to be dead but the 1182 00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:54,480 biggest danger out in this environment 1183 00:45:53,039 --> 00:45:56,719 will be the things that he doesn't see 1184 00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:59,039 the ticks the leeches and most 1185 00:45:56,719 --> 00:46:00,719 importantly the scrapes and cuts are 1186 00:45:59,039 --> 00:46:02,239 going to get infected will bring him 1187 00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:03,679 down unless he's got medical training 1188 00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:05,519 and antibiotics 1189 00:46:03,679 --> 00:46:07,519 brian does not strike me as the type of 1190 00:46:05,519 --> 00:46:09,358 person that has the real survival skills 1191 00:46:07,519 --> 00:46:11,539 necessary to survive in this kind of 1192 00:46:09,358 --> 00:46:13,759 environment just don't think he has 1193 00:46:11,539 --> 00:46:14,880 [Music] 1194 00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:16,720 people are going to turn this guy in if 1195 00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:19,280 they find him but he might be able to 1196 00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:21,919 survive on his own for a time or get 1197 00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:23,680 somewhere else like mexico there's no 1198 00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:25,599 border patrol on the mexican side 1199 00:46:23,679 --> 00:46:26,960 there's no immigration brian laundry 1200 00:46:25,599 --> 00:46:28,800 could have walked across that border 1201 00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:30,318 with his hair on fire naked and nobody 1202 00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:32,318 would have seen him if he would have 1203 00:46:30,318 --> 00:46:34,159 done this correctly he would have had to 1204 00:46:32,318 --> 00:46:37,838 have front loaded his movements have 1205 00:46:34,159 --> 00:46:40,078 enough cash avoid atms grocery stores 1206 00:46:37,838 --> 00:46:41,679 gas stations never use your cell phones 1207 00:46:40,079 --> 00:46:43,680 you should have decomposing that an 1208 00:46:41,679 --> 00:46:45,059 animal's ate it with something that way 1209 00:46:43,679 --> 00:46:46,879 he doesn't go to prison 1210 00:46:45,059 --> 00:46:48,880 [Applause] 1211 00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:51,039 there are obviously numerous law 1212 00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:53,039 enforcement agencies investigating this 1213 00:46:51,039 --> 00:46:55,440 case but also it caught the attention of 1214 00:46:53,039 --> 00:46:57,599 dog the bounty hunter fox news capturing 1215 00:46:55,440 --> 00:47:00,079 dog the bounty hunter joining the search 1216 00:46:57,599 --> 00:47:02,480 knocking on the laundry door 1217 00:47:00,079 --> 00:47:05,280 i really let loose on a knock 1218 00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:09,599 the reason i got involved in the gabby 1219 00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:12,400 case was purely by request from our fans 1220 00:47:09,599 --> 00:47:14,480 this is a real hunt this is probably 1221 00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:15,440 right now in america the most wanted man 1222 00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:17,679 there is 1223 00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:19,920 in order to find him we gotta hunt he's 1224 00:47:17,679 --> 00:47:21,598 going into the wilderness because that's 1225 00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:22,400 what he knows and he feels protected 1226 00:47:21,599 --> 00:47:24,800 there 1227 00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:26,960 we don't know if he's armed or not 1228 00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:28,720 you have personalities like john wall 1229 00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:31,039 short dog the bounty hunter being 1230 00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:33,199 involved then that's a win the more eyes 1231 00:47:31,039 --> 00:47:35,759 on this case the better what's with all 1232 00:47:33,199 --> 00:47:37,279 the resources to find this one guy who 1233 00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:39,839 may or may not have killed this one 1234 00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:39,839 woman 1235 00:47:40,079 --> 00:47:42,640 one thing that happened immediately 1236 00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:44,400 after this case blew up in the media and 1237 00:47:42,639 --> 00:47:47,358 on the internet was it opened up this 1238 00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:48,800 broader conversation about missing women 1239 00:47:47,358 --> 00:47:50,719 and specifically missing black and 1240 00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:52,640 indigenous women and the the lack of 1241 00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:53,919 attention given to them you have to 1242 00:47:52,639 --> 00:47:55,838 remember that 1243 00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:57,440 there are thousands of indigenous women 1244 00:47:55,838 --> 00:48:00,480 that have gone missing in the same area 1245 00:47:57,440 --> 00:48:02,960 that gabby's body was found and gabby's 1246 00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:04,480 case luckily has brought awareness to 1247 00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:06,400 that let's stand up for missing and 1248 00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:08,079 murdered indigenous women anna and i 1249 00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:09,680 were just discussing that she had never 1250 00:48:08,079 --> 00:48:11,280 heard of this sort of missing white 1251 00:48:09,679 --> 00:48:13,279 woman syndrome it's a term that was 1252 00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:15,280 coined by gwen ifill anybody in true 1253 00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:17,280 crime has seen it this notion that we 1254 00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:20,160 have as a culture 1255 00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:22,480 to specifically fixate on young 1256 00:48:20,159 --> 00:48:23,838 beautiful white women 1257 00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:26,000 it's really hard to talk about the 1258 00:48:23,838 --> 00:48:28,400 missing white woman syndrome in the 1259 00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:31,039 context of this case because of course 1260 00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:33,440 we care deeply quickly about gabby 1261 00:48:31,039 --> 00:48:34,480 potato but at the same time we have to 1262 00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:35,440 recognize 1263 00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:38,240 that 1264 00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:42,480 we have an outsized compassion 1265 00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:43,679 for young white women who are missing or 1266 00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:46,000 murdered 1267 00:48:43,679 --> 00:48:49,279 and we have a negligence 1268 00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:51,838 about brown women i saw a post from an 1269 00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:53,519 indigenous page on instagram and they 1270 00:48:51,838 --> 00:48:55,358 specifically said we feel very terrible 1271 00:48:53,519 --> 00:48:57,759 for gabby's family can we spend some of 1272 00:48:55,358 --> 00:48:59,598 the energy that we spent focusing on her 1273 00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:02,720 finding many of the other indigenous 1274 00:48:59,599 --> 00:49:05,599 women missing across north america 1275 00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:08,078 mary johnson davis kimberlina yellow 1276 00:49:05,599 --> 00:49:10,000 hair sarah nicole graham 1277 00:49:08,079 --> 00:49:12,640 wyoming the last place where gabby was 1278 00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:16,000 seen issued a report this january it 1279 00:49:12,639 --> 00:49:18,400 said in the past decade only 18 1280 00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:21,440 of missing cases involving indigenous 1281 00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:22,880 women receive media attention 1282 00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:24,159 there's a phrase in indian country that 1283 00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:27,119 when a native american woman goes 1284 00:49:24,159 --> 00:49:29,440 missing she disappears twice once in 1285 00:49:27,119 --> 00:49:31,838 life and once in the news 1286 00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:35,679 and if you look at the data from 1287 00:49:31,838 --> 00:49:37,440 2020 there's 250 000 1288 00:49:35,679 --> 00:49:41,358 lori ann boffman 1289 00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:44,000 wanda faye walker erica nicole hunt 1290 00:49:41,358 --> 00:49:44,960 why do we have greater compassion in our 1291 00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:47,119 hearts 1292 00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:50,000 for gabby potito than we do for these 1293 00:49:47,119 --> 00:49:52,400 other women we have to really dig deeply 1294 00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:53,838 to ask ourselves that question it's on 1295 00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:55,599 all of you 1296 00:49:53,838 --> 00:49:58,078 everyone that's in this room 1297 00:49:55,599 --> 00:49:59,920 to do that 1298 00:49:58,079 --> 00:50:02,640 and if you don't do that for other 1299 00:49:59,920 --> 00:50:03,838 people that are missing that's a shame 1300 00:50:02,639 --> 00:50:07,239 because it's not just gabby that 1301 00:50:03,838 --> 00:50:07,239 deserves it 1302 00:50:07,489 --> 00:50:12,000 [Music] 1303 00:50:08,030 --> 00:50:14,559 [Applause] 1304 00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:17,760 brian is missing for weeks and the 1305 00:50:14,559 --> 00:50:20,240 search goes on and on i worry about him 1306 00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:21,920 i hope he's okay and then i'm angry and 1307 00:50:20,239 --> 00:50:23,838 i don't know what to think everything 1308 00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:24,880 runs through my head i hope my brother 1309 00:50:23,838 --> 00:50:27,279 is alive 1310 00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:29,599 because i want answers just as much as 1311 00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:31,839 everybody else gabby petito's boyfriend 1312 00:50:29,599 --> 00:50:33,200 has apparently disappeared himself a lot 1313 00:50:31,838 --> 00:50:35,039 of the public was operating under the 1314 00:50:33,199 --> 00:50:36,639 assumption that okay clearly brian 1315 00:50:35,039 --> 00:50:38,639 laundry is involved here in gabby 1316 00:50:36,639 --> 00:50:40,639 potato's disappearance why don't the 1317 00:50:38,639 --> 00:50:42,639 authorities just arrest him but from 1318 00:50:40,639 --> 00:50:45,039 authorities perspective there was no 1319 00:50:42,639 --> 00:50:47,838 crime at play this was simply a missing 1320 00:50:45,039 --> 00:50:50,480 person and brian laundry has no legal 1321 00:50:47,838 --> 00:50:51,920 obligation to help them try to find her 1322 00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:53,039 when did he tell his parents there was a 1323 00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:56,240 problem when did they call their 1324 00:50:53,039 --> 00:50:56,239 attorney i got questions 1325 00:50:57,119 --> 00:51:00,800 earlier today human remains were 1326 00:50:59,358 --> 00:51:02,480 discovered 1327 00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:05,119 consistent with the description of 1328 00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:06,960 gabrielle gabby petito 1329 00:51:05,119 --> 00:51:10,240 now it's no longer a missing person's 1330 00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:13,119 case it's a murder investigation 1331 00:51:10,239 --> 00:51:15,759 and amazingly it was someone from social 1332 00:51:13,119 --> 00:51:17,280 media who cracked the case 1333 00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:19,119 when we found the footage i'm like 1334 00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:21,280 please please keep recording please keep 1335 00:51:19,119 --> 00:51:23,358 recording please be on here and all of a 1336 00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:27,200 sudden we see this white speck getting 1337 00:51:23,358 --> 00:51:27,199 closer and closer and closer 1338 00:51:28,070 --> 00:51:37,440 [Music] 1339 00:51:35,519 --> 00:51:39,440 grand teton national park where gabby 1340 00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:41,760 potito spoke directly with her family 1341 00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:44,318 for the last time before she disappeared 1342 00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:46,319 the search continues for gabby potito 1343 00:51:44,318 --> 00:51:49,039 family friends and now where we are 1344 00:51:46,318 --> 00:51:51,920 right now is the grand tetons 1345 00:51:49,039 --> 00:51:54,079 in wyoming just north of jackson hole on 1346 00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:56,639 spread creek road which is the camping 1347 00:51:54,079 --> 00:51:58,559 area that brian laundry and gabby potato 1348 00:51:56,639 --> 00:52:00,318 were last camping at 1349 00:51:58,559 --> 00:52:02,240 law enforcement agencies on both sides 1350 00:52:00,318 --> 00:52:05,920 of the country are looking for clues to 1351 00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:08,318 find 22 year old gabby petito 1352 00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:09,838 so once someone goes missing you hope 1353 00:52:08,318 --> 00:52:12,239 you have a starting point where were 1354 00:52:09,838 --> 00:52:14,960 they at last when did you see him 1355 00:52:12,239 --> 00:52:18,719 the quicker you get search teams out the 1356 00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:21,039 better the reality is heinz against you 1357 00:52:18,719 --> 00:52:22,879 in the gabby potato case it wasn't 1358 00:52:21,039 --> 00:52:24,558 someone coming forward saying she 1359 00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:26,559 laughed she was wearing this i last are 1360 00:52:24,559 --> 00:52:28,240 walking in that direction to give 1361 00:52:26,559 --> 00:52:30,160 searchers any kind of 1362 00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:33,519 assistance how are you going to cut 1363 00:52:30,159 --> 00:52:37,118 nightmare hello nobody knew gabby patina 1364 00:52:33,519 --> 00:52:39,679 was until unfortunately she disappeared 1365 00:52:37,119 --> 00:52:41,280 but because she'd created 1366 00:52:39,679 --> 00:52:44,639 this incredible 1367 00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:47,359 log of her travels 1368 00:52:44,639 --> 00:52:48,400 with her effervescent 1369 00:52:47,358 --> 00:52:51,199 presence 1370 00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:53,760 on social media everybody wanted to find 1371 00:52:51,199 --> 00:52:54,879 this woman and now with the internet 1372 00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:57,680 people were going to take it upon 1373 00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:59,519 themselves to find her suddenly we have 1374 00:52:57,679 --> 00:53:01,199 internet sleuths i heard about gabby 1375 00:52:59,519 --> 00:53:02,719 petito roughly 1376 00:53:01,199 --> 00:53:04,159 around the time that she was reported 1377 00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:06,239 missing people are like oh she's an 1378 00:53:04,159 --> 00:53:09,679 internet influencer it's a true crime 1379 00:53:06,239 --> 00:53:11,598 story happening in real life which you 1380 00:53:09,679 --> 00:53:13,759 feel like you can participate in you 1381 00:53:11,599 --> 00:53:15,359 know by making content on the internet 1382 00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:18,559 people on tick tock were immediately 1383 00:53:15,358 --> 00:53:20,318 going to to scrutinize every part of 1384 00:53:18,559 --> 00:53:22,319 everyone's online presence why is she 1385 00:53:20,318 --> 00:53:24,318 posting with a pumpkin why is this video 1386 00:53:22,318 --> 00:53:28,480 framed like that they're getting into 1387 00:53:24,318 --> 00:53:30,400 gabby potito's mind and trying to align 1388 00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:32,480 themselves to find out what happened 1389 00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:34,800 they're looking at the body language 1390 00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:38,079 they are looking into the time stamps 1391 00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:40,318 they're creating a map of everywhere 1392 00:53:38,079 --> 00:53:42,720 that they traveled in this van when did 1393 00:53:40,318 --> 00:53:44,239 she really stop posting is this her the 1394 00:53:42,719 --> 00:53:46,239 fact that she randomly posted it on 1395 00:53:44,239 --> 00:53:48,719 august 25th with just that caption and 1396 00:53:46,239 --> 00:53:50,719 did not tag a location to me is very 1397 00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:52,159 suspicious this caption seems different 1398 00:53:50,719 --> 00:53:53,838 from the one five months ago and the way 1399 00:53:52,159 --> 00:53:55,759 that she's talking also notice that the 1400 00:53:53,838 --> 00:53:57,599 capitalization is different she never 1401 00:53:55,760 --> 00:53:58,880 capitalized anything but the first word 1402 00:53:57,599 --> 00:54:00,160 and now she's capitalizing different 1403 00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:02,318 words which is what he does in his 1404 00:54:00,159 --> 00:54:04,250 writing looking for breadcrumbs anywhere 1405 00:54:02,318 --> 00:54:06,000 they're hoping for any type of clue 1406 00:54:04,250 --> 00:54:08,159 [Music] 1407 00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:09,440 august 29th is when we see brian 1408 00:54:08,159 --> 00:54:12,480 resurface 1409 00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:14,559 and it is with a woman who's traveling 1410 00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:15,760 through the teton national forest with 1411 00:54:14,559 --> 00:54:17,680 her boyfriend and they pick up 1412 00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:19,200 hitchhikers which by the way is very 1413 00:54:17,679 --> 00:54:20,639 common out there in the beginning of the 1414 00:54:19,199 --> 00:54:22,799 investigation you didn't really know 1415 00:54:20,639 --> 00:54:24,480 where to look for gabby petito 1416 00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:27,119 but then those tick tock videos by 1417 00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:29,760 miranda baker started to come out 1418 00:54:27,119 --> 00:54:30,480 my name is miranda baker i'm 22 years 1419 00:54:29,760 --> 00:54:33,520 old 1420 00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:35,440 my boyfriend and i came into the tetons 1421 00:54:33,519 --> 00:54:37,759 that's when brian had approached us and 1422 00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:39,440 he said hey i need to get a ride back to 1423 00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:42,400 jackson do you think you could give me a 1424 00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:43,838 ride back they offered 200 to drive a 1425 00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:46,240 few miles and they thought that that was 1426 00:54:43,838 --> 00:54:47,759 a little odd he was really clean for 1427 00:54:46,239 --> 00:54:49,279 someone who had been hiking for multiple 1428 00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:52,000 days i did strike me as weird and 1429 00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:54,400 especially his backpack it wasn't full 1430 00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:56,719 it was empty he said him and his fiancee 1431 00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:59,599 were camping at a dispersed campsite 1432 00:54:56,719 --> 00:55:01,759 near snake river the biggest red flag is 1433 00:54:59,599 --> 00:55:03,200 why would you go camping by yourself for 1434 00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:06,079 multiple days 1435 00:55:03,199 --> 00:55:07,199 alone with just a backpack and leave her 1436 00:55:06,079 --> 00:55:08,798 fiance 1437 00:55:07,199 --> 00:55:11,439 in your van 1438 00:55:08,798 --> 00:55:14,159 it just doesn't make sense 1439 00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:15,519 we were driving for 15 minutes and i had 1440 00:55:14,159 --> 00:55:17,519 brought up you know why are you going to 1441 00:55:15,519 --> 00:55:21,599 jackson hole and once i said jackson 1442 00:55:17,519 --> 00:55:23,599 hole that's when the energy shifted 1443 00:55:21,599 --> 00:55:26,640 he got very upset about that said please 1444 00:55:23,599 --> 00:55:30,400 let me out of the car he's gone 1445 00:55:26,639 --> 00:55:34,078 this is one more weird instagram anomaly 1446 00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:36,880 gabby and brian people spent days on end 1447 00:55:34,079 --> 00:55:39,519 on social media trying to help resolve 1448 00:55:36,880 --> 00:55:42,000 the situation and in the end it was 1449 00:55:39,519 --> 00:55:44,159 social media that helped find gabby's 1450 00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:46,719 remains 1451 00:55:44,159 --> 00:55:49,759 my name is jen bethune and i travel with 1452 00:55:46,719 --> 00:55:55,679 my husband kyle our three kids and four 1453 00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:58,000 dogs in our 1983 silver eagle bus 1454 00:55:55,679 --> 00:55:59,519 our story is very intertwined with 1455 00:55:58,000 --> 00:56:02,719 gabby's story 1456 00:55:59,519 --> 00:56:04,639 we're youtubers and so we film all the 1457 00:56:02,719 --> 00:56:07,279 time our everyday lives it's the 1458 00:56:04,639 --> 00:56:08,558 freaking tetons she did not know at that 1459 00:56:07,280 --> 00:56:10,720 time they were just driving through the 1460 00:56:08,559 --> 00:56:12,880 teton national forest and this van is on 1461 00:56:10,719 --> 00:56:14,798 the side of the road it was crazy to us 1462 00:56:12,880 --> 00:56:17,440 because it had florida plates and we're 1463 00:56:14,798 --> 00:56:19,280 from florida and we were like we can go 1464 00:56:17,440 --> 00:56:21,440 hang out with them go say hi 1465 00:56:19,280 --> 00:56:23,280 but the van looked very dark it didn't 1466 00:56:21,440 --> 00:56:25,358 look like anybody was there she doesn't 1467 00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:28,160 think much of it until many weeks later 1468 00:56:25,358 --> 00:56:30,318 the fbi denver twitter account posted 1469 00:56:28,159 --> 00:56:32,239 this saying that they are connecting 1470 00:56:30,318 --> 00:56:35,039 ground surveys at the spread creek 1471 00:56:32,239 --> 00:56:37,838 dispersed camping area without all that 1472 00:56:35,039 --> 00:56:40,079 attention jen bethune who watched her 1473 00:56:37,838 --> 00:56:42,239 video never would have thought of a 1474 00:56:40,079 --> 00:56:44,079 white van when we found the footage i'm 1475 00:56:42,239 --> 00:56:46,479 like please please keep recording please 1476 00:56:44,079 --> 00:56:48,000 keep recording please be on here and my 1477 00:56:46,480 --> 00:56:50,079 husband kyle's standing next to me and 1478 00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:52,719 all of a sudden we see this white speck 1479 00:56:50,079 --> 00:56:54,240 getting closer and closer and closer 1480 00:56:52,719 --> 00:56:55,919 which found it 1481 00:56:54,239 --> 00:56:57,679 at a particular moment 1482 00:56:55,920 --> 00:56:59,838 at a particular time 1483 00:56:57,679 --> 00:57:02,000 we both got goosebumps all over our body 1484 00:56:59,838 --> 00:57:04,798 we knew it was her van as soon as the 1485 00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:06,159 footage passed by it it was an insane 1486 00:57:04,798 --> 00:57:11,199 feeling 1487 00:57:06,159 --> 00:57:11,199 at 1208 in the morning i called the fbi 1488 00:57:11,440 --> 00:57:15,920 i think each of us that had tips and 1489 00:57:13,920 --> 00:57:18,720 that had the sightings held a piece of 1490 00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:20,798 the puzzle and we all worked together to 1491 00:57:18,719 --> 00:57:22,639 be able to put that puzzle together so i 1492 00:57:20,798 --> 00:57:25,519 don't think it was just us i think it 1493 00:57:22,639 --> 00:57:27,838 was a community as a whole working 1494 00:57:25,519 --> 00:57:31,199 together to bring gabby home once the 1495 00:57:27,838 --> 00:57:33,199 bathoons were able to pinpoint the van 1496 00:57:31,199 --> 00:57:35,519 in their gopro footage 1497 00:57:33,199 --> 00:57:37,118 the police who had been searching the 1498 00:57:35,519 --> 00:57:39,838 entire area 1499 00:57:37,119 --> 00:57:41,760 were able to pinpoint to within a 1500 00:57:39,838 --> 00:57:43,679 thousand feet 1501 00:57:41,760 --> 00:57:44,559 where gabby's remains 1502 00:57:43,679 --> 00:57:46,239 were 1503 00:57:44,559 --> 00:57:48,000 and without that footage 1504 00:57:46,239 --> 00:57:50,318 they might not have been able to do that 1505 00:57:48,000 --> 00:57:52,639 she might have been composed without 1506 00:57:50,318 --> 00:57:53,838 ever having been found starting with 1507 00:57:52,639 --> 00:57:55,759 breaking news here at six o'clock 1508 00:57:53,838 --> 00:57:57,920 authorities found a body in the bridger 1509 00:57:55,760 --> 00:58:00,160 teton national park in wyoming there is 1510 00:57:57,920 --> 00:58:01,838 breaking news in search for gabby potito 1511 00:58:00,159 --> 00:58:03,838 just moments ago officials tonight 1512 00:58:01,838 --> 00:58:06,838 officials confirming they found a body 1513 00:58:03,838 --> 00:58:09,358 near grand teton national park earlier 1514 00:58:06,838 --> 00:58:10,960 today human remains were discovered 1515 00:58:09,358 --> 00:58:13,409 consistent with the description of 1516 00:58:10,960 --> 00:58:16,710 gabrielle gabby petito 1517 00:58:13,409 --> 00:58:24,879 [Applause] 1518 00:58:16,710 --> 00:58:27,280 [Music] 1519 00:58:24,880 --> 00:58:29,440 on september 19th the fbi announced that 1520 00:58:27,280 --> 00:58:32,798 they had located remains just outside 1521 00:58:29,440 --> 00:58:34,960 granting national park in bridger teton 1522 00:58:32,798 --> 00:58:36,719 national forest human remains were 1523 00:58:34,960 --> 00:58:40,260 discovered consistent with the 1524 00:58:36,719 --> 00:58:43,718 description of gabrielle gabby petito 1525 00:58:40,260 --> 00:58:43,719 [Applause] 1526 00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:48,960 if you go behind where that van was 1527 00:58:46,639 --> 00:58:51,279 placed about 15 feet there's a small 1528 00:58:48,960 --> 00:58:53,920 creek 1529 00:58:51,280 --> 00:58:56,240 her body was on the creek bed out 1530 00:58:53,920 --> 00:58:59,838 exposed in the open 1531 00:58:56,239 --> 00:59:01,519 so if anybody here was trying to bury a 1532 00:58:59,838 --> 00:59:03,599 body good luck you're not going to get 1533 00:59:01,519 --> 00:59:05,838 six inches before you're hitting right a 1534 00:59:03,599 --> 00:59:05,838 rock 1535 00:59:06,639 --> 00:59:10,400 once her remains are recovered and 1536 00:59:08,480 --> 00:59:12,240 they're in a state of decomposition 1537 00:59:10,400 --> 00:59:15,280 there's a question of how she died which 1538 00:59:12,239 --> 00:59:16,318 is eventually ruled a homicide not an 1539 00:59:15,280 --> 00:59:19,119 accident 1540 00:59:16,318 --> 00:59:21,199 not natural causes but a homicide we're 1541 00:59:19,119 --> 00:59:23,039 now looking for the person of interest 1542 00:59:21,199 --> 00:59:26,000 in that homicide and that person of 1543 00:59:23,039 --> 00:59:27,679 interest is brian laundry 1544 00:59:26,000 --> 00:59:29,519 the fbi has been looking for brain 1545 00:59:27,679 --> 00:59:30,960 laundry all over the country we're going 1546 00:59:29,519 --> 00:59:32,798 to turn next to the search for that 1547 00:59:30,960 --> 00:59:34,798 person of interest brian laundry there 1548 00:59:32,798 --> 00:59:36,719 have been spottings of him 1549 00:59:34,798 --> 00:59:39,199 throughout florida where is brian 1550 00:59:36,719 --> 00:59:40,719 laundry as far north as north carolina 1551 00:59:39,199 --> 00:59:42,558 possible brian laundry sightings along 1552 00:59:40,719 --> 00:59:43,919 the appalachian trail calls coming into 1553 00:59:42,559 --> 00:59:45,920 9-1-1 1554 00:59:43,920 --> 00:59:48,240 we've gotten almost as many tips for on 1555 00:59:45,920 --> 00:59:52,639 the appalachian trail as we have for 1556 00:59:48,239 --> 00:59:55,279 mexico i bet my money on mexico 1557 00:59:52,639 --> 00:59:57,598 brian's smile in various social media 1558 00:59:55,280 --> 00:59:59,200 gives some insight into his comfort 1559 00:59:57,599 --> 01:00:00,960 level and natural surroundings no matter 1560 00:59:59,199 --> 01:00:03,759 where he is the fact that brian has 1561 01:00:00,960 --> 01:00:06,480 spent so much time in the outdoors 1562 01:00:03,760 --> 01:00:09,280 living with minimal supplies makes the 1563 01:00:06,480 --> 01:00:11,679 search for him a lot more complicated is 1564 01:00:09,280 --> 01:00:13,920 this person in the middle of a swamp is 1565 01:00:11,679 --> 01:00:16,879 he on the appalachian trail is he out 1566 01:00:13,920 --> 01:00:18,880 somewhere where no people are located he 1567 01:00:16,880 --> 01:00:21,950 has the possibility of lasting out there 1568 01:00:18,880 --> 01:00:25,119 on his own without any outside help 1569 01:00:21,949 --> 01:00:27,598 [Music] 1570 01:00:25,119 --> 01:00:30,079 we know that brian laundry has hiked the 1571 01:00:27,599 --> 01:00:32,160 appalachian trail we know his camp there 1572 01:00:30,079 --> 01:00:33,599 before so that makes it likely he would 1573 01:00:32,159 --> 01:00:36,639 return to that spot 1574 01:00:33,599 --> 01:00:38,559 and there were 10 other sightings of 1575 01:00:36,639 --> 01:00:41,440 ryan laundry up and down the appalachian 1576 01:00:38,559 --> 01:00:43,680 trail i wasn't sure about what he looked 1577 01:00:41,440 --> 01:00:46,159 like and then i went and parked and 1578 01:00:43,679 --> 01:00:47,838 pulled up the photographs of him and i'm 1579 01:00:46,159 --> 01:00:50,000 99.99 1580 01:00:47,838 --> 01:00:52,159 sure that was him 1581 01:00:50,000 --> 01:00:55,440 are they real maybe not is it worth 1582 01:00:52,159 --> 01:00:58,798 investigating absolutely 1583 01:00:55,440 --> 01:01:02,798 you have elements of nature and social 1584 01:00:58,798 --> 01:01:05,119 media and true crime dramas and podcasts 1585 01:01:02,798 --> 01:01:07,280 and internet sleuths it kept getting his 1586 01:01:05,119 --> 01:01:09,920 everyday pass into this larger and 1587 01:01:07,280 --> 01:01:10,960 larger thing and everybody that you 1588 01:01:09,920 --> 01:01:13,119 talked to 1589 01:01:10,960 --> 01:01:15,280 had some kind of involvement or theory 1590 01:01:13,119 --> 01:01:17,039 about how this was all playing out who 1591 01:01:15,280 --> 01:01:19,200 had been spotted as being a brian 1592 01:01:17,039 --> 01:01:21,679 laundry look-alike one guy was mistaken 1593 01:01:19,199 --> 01:01:23,759 for being brian laundry so many times 1594 01:01:21,679 --> 01:01:26,318 that he established a tick tock account 1595 01:01:23,760 --> 01:01:28,160 dedicated to showing he wasn't the guy 1596 01:01:26,318 --> 01:01:31,279 that cops were looking for got some 1597 01:01:28,159 --> 01:01:32,798 strange looks like uh i'm not bringing 1598 01:01:31,280 --> 01:01:35,359 any advice 1599 01:01:32,798 --> 01:01:37,599 on what i should say to people that 1600 01:01:35,358 --> 01:01:39,279 think i am 1601 01:01:37,599 --> 01:01:41,519 the new yorker reported that u.s 1602 01:01:39,280 --> 01:01:43,839 marshals busted into the hotel room of a 1603 01:01:41,519 --> 01:01:46,079 man who looked like ryan laundry and had 1604 01:01:43,838 --> 01:01:48,880 been hiking on the appalachian trail 1605 01:01:46,079 --> 01:01:50,880 federal agents in riot gear and shields 1606 01:01:48,880 --> 01:01:53,440 pointed guns at his face 1607 01:01:50,880 --> 01:01:55,280 the guy reportedly got his room comped 1608 01:01:53,440 --> 01:01:57,679 and a free breakfast but that's how 1609 01:01:55,280 --> 01:02:01,039 intense the manhunt had gotten 1610 01:01:57,679 --> 01:02:03,519 so anybody that looks like him beware 1611 01:02:01,039 --> 01:02:06,319 because uh he can't go anywhere in 1612 01:02:03,519 --> 01:02:10,159 america without being spotted something 1613 01:02:06,318 --> 01:02:11,838 good has come of all this attention 1614 01:02:10,159 --> 01:02:13,440 and search crews say this spotlight on 1615 01:02:11,838 --> 01:02:14,960 the gabby petito case has already led 1616 01:02:13,440 --> 01:02:17,039 them to discover the body of at least 1617 01:02:14,960 --> 01:02:18,480 one other missing person in wyoming 1618 01:02:17,039 --> 01:02:21,680 thanks to new tips stirred up this 1619 01:02:18,480 --> 01:02:23,838 weekend in the gabby patino coverage 1620 01:02:21,679 --> 01:02:25,679 at this point as i say this 1621 01:02:23,838 --> 01:02:28,000 nine people who are missing have been 1622 01:02:25,679 --> 01:02:30,558 found as a result of searches for gabby 1623 01:02:28,000 --> 01:02:32,639 some in the general area where abby was 1624 01:02:30,559 --> 01:02:34,240 missing that's a good thing that people 1625 01:02:32,639 --> 01:02:36,159 are out there searching and finding 1626 01:02:34,239 --> 01:02:37,279 missing people so now the police are 1627 01:02:36,159 --> 01:02:38,639 moving to a new phase in the 1628 01:02:37,280 --> 01:02:39,599 investigation 1629 01:02:38,639 --> 01:02:41,199 where 1630 01:02:39,599 --> 01:02:45,359 they truly have a homicide and they 1631 01:02:41,199 --> 01:02:45,358 would be focused primarily on brian 1632 01:02:45,760 --> 01:02:50,240 i think when they use the word homicide 1633 01:02:48,239 --> 01:02:53,598 they wanted to make it clear 1634 01:02:50,239 --> 01:02:55,679 that there was no ambiguity about what 1635 01:02:53,599 --> 01:02:59,359 had happened to gabby 1636 01:02:55,679 --> 01:03:02,000 gabby had been killed by someone else 1637 01:02:59,358 --> 01:03:04,798 she had not walked off and been eaten by 1638 01:03:02,000 --> 01:03:06,559 an animal she hadn't drowned she had 1639 01:03:04,798 --> 01:03:07,920 been killed 1640 01:03:06,559 --> 01:03:08,880 you're in the crime scene please behind 1641 01:03:07,920 --> 01:03:10,400 the tape 1642 01:03:08,880 --> 01:03:13,119 what do you know 1643 01:03:10,400 --> 01:03:15,519 as the weeks grew on outside brian's 1644 01:03:13,119 --> 01:03:17,599 parents house then protesters and 1645 01:03:15,519 --> 01:03:19,449 neighbors from surrounding areas started 1646 01:03:17,599 --> 01:03:21,119 to gather and they started shouting 1647 01:03:19,449 --> 01:03:22,960 [Music] 1648 01:03:21,119 --> 01:03:24,960 you need to come out and speak to 1649 01:03:22,960 --> 01:03:26,240 authority 1650 01:03:24,960 --> 01:03:28,240 but 1651 01:03:26,239 --> 01:03:30,879 where is brian we would have the answers 1652 01:03:28,239 --> 01:03:33,439 if we had this guy and so we need him 1653 01:03:30,880 --> 01:03:34,798 because we need to know what happened 1654 01:03:33,440 --> 01:03:38,240 and 1655 01:03:34,798 --> 01:03:41,440 it just has lit this fire of 1656 01:03:38,239 --> 01:03:41,439 justice needs to be done 1657 01:03:42,159 --> 01:03:46,960 how did gabby wind up dead near a 1658 01:03:44,079 --> 01:03:49,800 wyoming creek the answer could be right 1659 01:03:46,960 --> 01:03:52,918 at her fingertips 1660 01:03:49,800 --> 01:03:52,919 [Music] 1661 01:03:54,579 --> 01:04:01,759 [Applause] 1662 01:03:57,179 --> 01:04:04,958 [Music] 1663 01:04:01,760 --> 01:04:04,959 [Applause] 1664 01:04:07,280 --> 01:04:11,599 tonight breaking news in the gabby 1665 01:04:08,719 --> 01:04:14,000 potato case with the core of the people 1666 01:04:11,599 --> 01:04:16,240 we find the cause of matter to be caused 1667 01:04:14,000 --> 01:04:17,519 death by strangulation and manner of 1668 01:04:16,239 --> 01:04:19,038 this homicide 1669 01:04:17,519 --> 01:04:21,038 the cause of death 1670 01:04:19,039 --> 01:04:22,240 with gabby potato with this being 1671 01:04:21,039 --> 01:04:23,800 throttling 1672 01:04:22,239 --> 01:04:25,038 male strangulation 1673 01:04:23,800 --> 01:04:27,760 [Music] 1674 01:04:25,039 --> 01:04:29,200 these are real up close crimes 1675 01:04:27,760 --> 01:04:32,319 strangulation 1676 01:04:29,199 --> 01:04:34,960 is a very personal way to kill right 1677 01:04:32,318 --> 01:04:37,199 you're feeling the life being snuffed 1678 01:04:34,960 --> 01:04:38,318 out of a person that's a whole other 1679 01:04:37,199 --> 01:04:39,598 level of 1680 01:04:38,318 --> 01:04:41,519 anger 1681 01:04:39,599 --> 01:04:43,280 and why that's important is that when 1682 01:04:41,519 --> 01:04:45,679 you start to look 1683 01:04:43,280 --> 01:04:48,559 at domestic homicides that have 1684 01:04:45,679 --> 01:04:50,480 strangulation in them almost invariably 1685 01:04:48,559 --> 01:04:51,839 there's been attempts to do non-fatal 1686 01:04:50,480 --> 01:04:54,960 strangulation 1687 01:04:51,838 --> 01:04:54,960 prior where did he hit 1688 01:04:56,340 --> 01:05:00,960 [Applause] 1689 01:04:58,559 --> 01:05:02,559 so is that any history in gabby and 1690 01:05:00,960 --> 01:05:04,000 bryan's relationship 1691 01:05:02,559 --> 01:05:06,720 obviously we don't know the answer to 1692 01:05:04,000 --> 01:05:08,639 that question but it might be there now 1693 01:05:06,719 --> 01:05:10,480 numerous questions were asked they were 1694 01:05:08,639 --> 01:05:13,279 asking dr blue what state of 1695 01:05:10,480 --> 01:05:16,400 decomposition was gabby's body found in 1696 01:05:13,280 --> 01:05:19,359 did dr blue believe the body was moved 1697 01:05:16,400 --> 01:05:22,160 or if gabby was killed in that location 1698 01:05:19,358 --> 01:05:24,239 dr brent blue was very clear that under 1699 01:05:22,159 --> 01:05:26,159 wyoming law he could not comment on 1700 01:05:24,239 --> 01:05:28,159 those details i don't know when we'll 1701 01:05:26,159 --> 01:05:30,480 see the autopsy report for gabby pitino 1702 01:05:28,159 --> 01:05:33,440 but for now all we know is she was 1703 01:05:30,480 --> 01:05:35,679 strangled it's a homicide she was not 1704 01:05:33,440 --> 01:05:38,318 pregnant and the coroner referred to 1705 01:05:35,679 --> 01:05:39,919 domestic violence unfortunately 1706 01:05:38,318 --> 01:05:41,759 this is only one of 1707 01:05:39,920 --> 01:05:43,119 many deaths 1708 01:05:41,760 --> 01:05:45,039 around the country 1709 01:05:43,119 --> 01:05:47,519 of people who are involved in domestic 1710 01:05:45,039 --> 01:05:47,520 violence 1711 01:05:48,239 --> 01:05:53,439 her body was on the creek bed out 1712 01:05:50,880 --> 01:05:56,798 exposed in the open 1713 01:05:53,440 --> 01:05:59,039 critters go to the water to drink if i 1714 01:05:56,798 --> 01:06:02,318 leave a body out in the creek 1715 01:05:59,039 --> 01:06:05,520 i increase the odds that a wild animal 1716 01:06:02,318 --> 01:06:08,400 will encounter a body and devours 1717 01:06:05,519 --> 01:06:11,440 enough of the body that you cannot see 1718 01:06:08,400 --> 01:06:11,440 what the crime was 1719 01:06:11,519 --> 01:06:14,960 we do know that dna was collected from 1720 01:06:13,440 --> 01:06:17,519 the body 1721 01:06:14,960 --> 01:06:20,559 if they collected dna underneath the 1722 01:06:17,519 --> 01:06:22,960 fingerprint impressions on the neck 1723 01:06:20,559 --> 01:06:25,760 that might give us information as to 1724 01:06:22,960 --> 01:06:28,318 whose hands were on her neck at the time 1725 01:06:25,760 --> 01:06:30,960 of her death that might be very crucial 1726 01:06:28,318 --> 01:06:33,679 to understanding the case 1727 01:06:30,960 --> 01:06:36,880 we will not know whether the dna is 1728 01:06:33,679 --> 01:06:39,199 useful or not until we get a report back 1729 01:06:36,880 --> 01:06:41,920 from the fbi 1730 01:06:39,199 --> 01:06:45,118 we may never find out if that dna is 1731 01:06:41,920 --> 01:06:47,680 useful dna or not in other words we may 1732 01:06:45,119 --> 01:06:50,559 never have an answer to why 1733 01:06:47,679 --> 01:06:53,598 gabby tito was murdered 1734 01:06:50,559 --> 01:06:56,640 this was a vicious death by every 1735 01:06:53,599 --> 01:06:58,559 interpretation and now all of the energy 1736 01:06:56,639 --> 01:07:01,920 that the public had poured into finding 1737 01:06:58,559 --> 01:07:04,000 gabby potito directed at finding brian 1738 01:07:01,920 --> 01:07:06,798 laundry the nationwide manhunt for 1739 01:07:04,000 --> 01:07:09,039 laundry still the old without her brian 1740 01:07:06,798 --> 01:07:11,759 laundry's notebook was found near his 1741 01:07:09,039 --> 01:07:14,160 remains he was writing his thoughts on 1742 01:07:11,760 --> 01:07:15,839 what had happened in the past weeks that 1743 01:07:14,159 --> 01:07:19,199 could break the case open and give us 1744 01:07:15,838 --> 01:07:31,759 the answers we're all waiting for 1745 01:07:19,199 --> 01:07:34,318 [Music] 1746 01:07:31,760 --> 01:07:35,920 police say that a backpack notebook and 1747 01:07:34,318 --> 01:07:38,400 human remains which were now being 1748 01:07:35,920 --> 01:07:42,798 described as skeletal were found in an 1749 01:07:38,400 --> 01:07:45,440 area that brian used to frequent 1750 01:07:42,798 --> 01:07:48,239 we are weeks in to the search for brian 1751 01:07:45,440 --> 01:07:50,639 laundry and i get a call they probably 1752 01:07:48,239 --> 01:07:53,038 found brian laundry 1753 01:07:50,639 --> 01:07:54,719 his parents decide that they're gonna 1754 01:07:53,039 --> 01:07:57,359 actually go out and help with the search 1755 01:07:54,719 --> 01:07:59,118 and they go to an area in the park they 1756 01:07:57,358 --> 01:08:01,598 had told the police to search and had 1757 01:07:59,119 --> 01:08:04,240 been looked at have been under water 1758 01:08:01,599 --> 01:08:06,400 once we're there we see 1759 01:08:04,239 --> 01:08:08,078 cadaver dogs are back out at the scene 1760 01:08:06,400 --> 01:08:10,240 the medical examiner has arrived at 1761 01:08:08,079 --> 01:08:12,240 carlton reserve you start to think that 1762 01:08:10,239 --> 01:08:15,038 this is likely the case that brian 1763 01:08:12,239 --> 01:08:17,519 laundry was in the swamp as suspected a 1764 01:08:15,039 --> 01:08:19,838 month before almost every time that we 1765 01:08:17,520 --> 01:08:21,839 hear of a medical examiner arriving at a 1766 01:08:19,838 --> 01:08:23,600 scene there's a reason that the medical 1767 01:08:21,838 --> 01:08:26,000 examiner is there they go because they 1768 01:08:23,600 --> 01:08:29,600 are being called to a specific location 1769 01:08:26,000 --> 01:08:31,279 to deal with remains or a body 1770 01:08:29,600 --> 01:08:33,039 all of the media is now rushing over to 1771 01:08:31,279 --> 01:08:35,199 the entrance trying to get the best spot 1772 01:08:33,039 --> 01:08:37,920 there and crowding around as they wait 1773 01:08:35,198 --> 01:08:39,439 for this announcement earlier today 1774 01:08:37,920 --> 01:08:42,319 investigators found what appears to be 1775 01:08:39,439 --> 01:08:44,000 human remains along with personal items 1776 01:08:42,319 --> 01:08:46,159 such as a backpack 1777 01:08:44,000 --> 01:08:47,679 and notebook belonging to brian laundry 1778 01:08:46,158 --> 01:08:50,158 and they were able to quickly confirm 1779 01:08:47,679 --> 01:08:51,440 that it was him because of a comparison 1780 01:08:50,158 --> 01:08:53,358 of dental records we've received 1781 01:08:51,439 --> 01:08:54,798 confirmation from the fbi that the 1782 01:08:53,359 --> 01:08:56,798 remains in florida that were found 1783 01:08:54,798 --> 01:09:00,640 yesterday are that indeed of brine 1784 01:08:56,798 --> 01:09:00,640 laundry about five percent of the 126864

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