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That's the question 13 00:00:53,953 --> 00:00:56,355 multiple agencies are investigating. 14 00:00:56,456 --> 00:00:58,791 [woman] Jen and Sarah really were the kind of parents 15 00:00:58,892 --> 00:01:02,094 that I think the world desperately needs. 16 00:01:02,195 --> 00:01:03,862 [woman] I honestly don't know 17 00:01:03,963 --> 00:01:05,764 at what point it turned, 18 00:01:05,865 --> 00:01:08,133 there were no red flags at all. 19 00:01:09,169 --> 00:01:11,503 [woman] You never can reconcile 20 00:01:11,604 --> 00:01:13,405 this picture-perfect family 21 00:01:13,506 --> 00:01:16,375 with these incredible details on the other side. 22 00:01:16,476 --> 00:01:18,310 [man] I knew that this couldn't be 23 00:01:18,411 --> 00:01:19,978 the first moment of tragedy. 24 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:21,413 This couldn't be the first moment 25 00:01:21,514 --> 00:01:22,681 of violence. 26 00:01:24,084 --> 00:01:26,218 I was trying to help them and protect them 27 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:28,654 and this is the result. 28 00:01:29,989 --> 00:01:32,224 [woman] How can they be so close 29 00:01:32,325 --> 00:01:34,026 to something so awful 30 00:01:34,127 --> 00:01:36,628 and not even know? 31 00:01:42,635 --> 00:01:44,803 [dramatic music playing] 32 00:01:44,904 --> 00:01:46,905 [waves crashing] 33 00:01:53,179 --> 00:01:55,848 [Sheriff Tom] March 26th, 2018, 34 00:01:55,949 --> 00:01:57,850 I heard a report on the radio. 35 00:01:57,951 --> 00:01:59,651 They dispatched the deputy 36 00:01:59,752 --> 00:02:02,588 to the northern part of Highway 1 37 00:02:02,689 --> 00:02:04,389 to perform coroner duties 38 00:02:04,491 --> 00:02:07,726 at a multiple fatality traffic accident. 39 00:02:09,762 --> 00:02:11,563 I knew exactly where it was because I've been there 40 00:02:11,664 --> 00:02:12,931 so many times. 41 00:02:15,235 --> 00:02:18,237 It's a big dirt turn out... 42 00:02:19,539 --> 00:02:23,475 with a 75, maybe 80-foot drop off... 43 00:02:23,576 --> 00:02:25,811 no guardrails whatsoever, no protection. 44 00:02:28,348 --> 00:02:29,948 [dramatic music playing] 45 00:02:30,049 --> 00:02:32,050 [helicopter blades whirring] 46 00:02:34,187 --> 00:02:36,221 [Sheriff Tom] When I pulled up the scene... 47 00:02:37,590 --> 00:02:38,824 fire engines there, 48 00:02:38,925 --> 00:02:40,092 ambulance was standing by, 49 00:02:41,394 --> 00:02:43,228 highway patrol helicopter. 50 00:02:43,329 --> 00:02:44,997 I saw one of our deputies 51 00:02:45,098 --> 00:02:46,665 and I went to him and said, 52 00:02:46,766 --> 00:02:49,134 "You know, what do we have?" 53 00:02:49,235 --> 00:02:50,969 And he said, "We have a car that went over." 54 00:02:51,070 --> 00:02:52,938 [waves crashing] 55 00:02:53,039 --> 00:02:55,307 [Sheriff Tom] I walked to the edge of the bluff. 56 00:02:55,408 --> 00:02:56,975 [camera shutter clicks] 57 00:02:57,076 --> 00:02:59,878 [Sheriff Tom] And I saw a crumpled SUV. 58 00:03:03,116 --> 00:03:04,783 The waves were coming in and going out, 59 00:03:04,884 --> 00:03:08,453 and you saw this car rocking back and forth. 60 00:03:08,555 --> 00:03:11,290 This was not a normal traffic accident 61 00:03:11,391 --> 00:03:13,225 from the very onset. 62 00:03:15,228 --> 00:03:18,063 And it continued to be 63 00:03:18,164 --> 00:03:19,798 anything other than normal. 64 00:03:19,866 --> 00:03:22,868 [dramatic music playing] 65 00:03:30,643 --> 00:03:33,378 [Cynthia] So that morning, I get into work. 66 00:03:35,949 --> 00:03:37,849 I was told that they had located 67 00:03:37,951 --> 00:03:39,484 two female adults 68 00:03:39,586 --> 00:03:41,386 within the passenger compartment 69 00:03:41,487 --> 00:03:42,387 of the vehicle, 70 00:03:42,488 --> 00:03:43,689 and they had located 71 00:03:43,790 --> 00:03:45,157 two male juveniles, 72 00:03:46,326 --> 00:03:48,727 and a female juvenile outside 73 00:03:48,828 --> 00:03:51,129 on the rocks. 74 00:03:51,231 --> 00:03:52,864 [It. Shannon] Some of the fire crew as they're 75 00:03:52,966 --> 00:03:55,534 examining the scene on the beach locate 76 00:03:55,635 --> 00:03:58,203 a Minnesota State driver's license 77 00:03:58,304 --> 00:04:01,206 in the name of Sarah Hart. 78 00:04:01,307 --> 00:04:03,875 We did some Google research 79 00:04:03,977 --> 00:04:07,179 and located a photo of the Hart Family 80 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:09,581 and a story that had gone viral. 81 00:04:09,682 --> 00:04:11,049 Yeah, someone around here said today 82 00:04:11,150 --> 00:04:12,784 what the world needs now might just be 83 00:04:12,885 --> 00:04:14,853 what we see in this photo. 84 00:04:14,954 --> 00:04:16,855 [Cynthia] I was Googling Hart Family, 85 00:04:16,956 --> 00:04:18,557 Devonte Hart, 86 00:04:18,658 --> 00:04:20,592 the first picture that popped up is Devonte 87 00:04:20,693 --> 00:04:22,461 hugging the Portland police officer. 88 00:04:22,562 --> 00:04:24,296 [news reporter] Born to a drug-addictive mother 89 00:04:24,397 --> 00:04:26,565 and into a violent life, he and his two siblings 90 00:04:26,666 --> 00:04:28,500 were adopted into a loving family 91 00:04:28,601 --> 00:04:31,270 and Devonte was at that rally with a message of peace 92 00:04:31,371 --> 00:04:34,172 and holding a sign offering free hugs. 93 00:04:34,274 --> 00:04:36,208 [Cynthia] And then, when you start really bringing up 94 00:04:36,309 --> 00:04:39,611 Hart Family, we get, you know, a lot of pictures 95 00:04:39,712 --> 00:04:41,546 of smiling and laughing, 96 00:04:41,648 --> 00:04:45,050 and videos of them singing. 97 00:04:45,151 --> 00:04:47,853 The moms looked happy and loving. 98 00:04:47,954 --> 00:04:50,455 And there's beautiful six children 99 00:04:50,556 --> 00:04:53,458 that looked like they were having a time 100 00:04:53,559 --> 00:04:55,060 of their life. 101 00:04:55,161 --> 00:04:58,163 [dramatic music playing] 102 00:05:00,767 --> 00:05:03,769 [Irene] Before I actually met the Harts, 103 00:05:03,870 --> 00:05:05,337 I heard about these kids 104 00:05:05,438 --> 00:05:06,838 that would come to these festivals 105 00:05:06,939 --> 00:05:09,074 that I attended. 106 00:05:09,175 --> 00:05:10,742 People mentioning like, "Oh, you know, 107 00:05:10,843 --> 00:05:12,577 the Hart kids, they give free hugs." 108 00:05:12,679 --> 00:05:15,080 [indistinct chatter] 109 00:05:15,181 --> 00:05:17,683 [Irene] I heard, oh, these two brave 110 00:05:17,784 --> 00:05:21,153 lesbian women went against all odds 111 00:05:21,254 --> 00:05:24,456 and adopted numerous children 112 00:05:24,557 --> 00:05:27,292 and are giving them 113 00:05:27,393 --> 00:05:29,594 this unprecedented life really, 114 00:05:29,696 --> 00:05:32,431 that no child is so lucky to have. 115 00:05:33,766 --> 00:05:37,102 These kids were just pure joy. 116 00:05:37,203 --> 00:05:38,737 All they could do is just smile 117 00:05:38,838 --> 00:05:40,339 from ear to ear. 118 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:42,007 They were always like, propped up 119 00:05:42,108 --> 00:05:43,308 on people's shoulders, 120 00:05:43,409 --> 00:05:45,510 dancing in the crowd. 121 00:05:45,611 --> 00:05:48,013 And memories of that are so sweet. 122 00:05:48,147 --> 00:05:49,548 They were a unit. 123 00:05:50,883 --> 00:05:54,019 [Drew] It wasn't difficult to just... 124 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:57,089 really enjoy getting to know Jen. 125 00:05:58,091 --> 00:05:59,458 She had a great sense of humor 126 00:05:59,559 --> 00:06:02,527 and she was just so social 127 00:06:02,628 --> 00:06:05,263 and frankly just fun to talk to. 128 00:06:05,365 --> 00:06:07,332 [dramatic music playing] 129 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:09,668 [Niema] Sarah was, from what I could tell 130 00:06:09,769 --> 00:06:11,837 like very reserved, very quiet. 131 00:06:11,938 --> 00:06:14,005 She seemed sweet but... 132 00:06:14,107 --> 00:06:16,675 not really conversational. 133 00:06:16,809 --> 00:06:19,311 Jen was a little bit more of the like outgoing 134 00:06:19,412 --> 00:06:21,546 and connecting with people on. 135 00:06:21,647 --> 00:06:23,682 Jen and I did become Facebook friends. 136 00:06:25,618 --> 00:06:28,253 She was pretty active in posting and I would see 137 00:06:28,354 --> 00:06:30,555 pretty regular posts of them, 138 00:06:30,656 --> 00:06:33,425 you know, the six of them. 139 00:06:33,526 --> 00:06:36,962 They always seem kind of calm and happy like even serene. 140 00:06:38,431 --> 00:06:41,333 Jen's photos were incredibly beautiful. 141 00:06:41,434 --> 00:06:43,702 They could've been in a magazine, 142 00:06:43,803 --> 00:06:46,905 the way they were framed and how the kids... 143 00:06:47,006 --> 00:06:48,707 Like the colors the kids were wearing 144 00:06:48,808 --> 00:06:51,176 and whatever exposure or lighting she was using. 145 00:06:52,678 --> 00:06:54,346 And they would be having like, 146 00:06:54,447 --> 00:06:56,415 really the foster kid's dream. 147 00:06:57,483 --> 00:06:59,418 [Drew] Jen seemed to be leading 148 00:06:59,519 --> 00:07:02,687 the most exceptional life. 149 00:07:03,756 --> 00:07:06,658 This supermom, 150 00:07:06,759 --> 00:07:10,796 this champion of racial reconciliation, 151 00:07:10,897 --> 00:07:13,732 willing to sacrifice herself 152 00:07:13,833 --> 00:07:18,637 for the greater good of these beautiful children, 153 00:07:20,473 --> 00:07:23,175 we all felt like we were along for the ride. 154 00:07:24,544 --> 00:07:27,546 [tense music playing] 155 00:07:31,884 --> 00:07:32,984 [Sheriff Tom] To know that we had 156 00:07:33,085 --> 00:07:34,453 possibly six children... 157 00:07:34,554 --> 00:07:36,488 [waves crashing] 158 00:07:36,589 --> 00:07:38,557 [Sheriff Tom] ...two adults, 159 00:07:38,658 --> 00:07:40,091 I don't think I know 160 00:07:40,193 --> 00:07:42,561 it was on everybody's mind of... 161 00:07:42,662 --> 00:07:44,329 this is what we're dealing with. 162 00:07:46,866 --> 00:07:48,233 [It. Shannon] By mid-morning, 163 00:07:48,334 --> 00:07:51,069 we had one person positively identified 164 00:07:51,137 --> 00:07:53,071 that being Sarah Hart. 165 00:07:54,140 --> 00:07:56,208 We suspected the other adult female 166 00:07:56,309 --> 00:07:59,444 was Jennifer Hart, her married partner. 167 00:07:59,545 --> 00:08:02,147 And two deceased children. 168 00:08:03,816 --> 00:08:06,451 And one that was believed to be a child 169 00:08:06,552 --> 00:08:09,621 but was late teens, so we weren't really sure. 170 00:08:11,090 --> 00:08:12,290 [Cynthia] We were pretty positive 171 00:08:12,391 --> 00:08:13,859 we had this family, 172 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:15,727 but we only have three kids. 173 00:08:16,729 --> 00:08:18,897 So we're missing three children. 174 00:08:21,434 --> 00:08:25,637 [Sheriff Tom] We had a vehicle out of state 175 00:08:25,738 --> 00:08:28,073 with possibly eight fatalities. 176 00:08:29,208 --> 00:08:31,209 We knew that these two mothers 177 00:08:31,310 --> 00:08:33,445 had adopted these kids 178 00:08:33,546 --> 00:08:36,314 and they were from, I believe, it was Woodland, Washington. 179 00:08:37,984 --> 00:08:41,620 So we had lots of questions. 180 00:08:43,789 --> 00:08:45,290 What's between Mendocino County 181 00:08:45,391 --> 00:08:46,725 and Woodland, Washington? 182 00:08:46,826 --> 00:08:49,528 How long would it take 'em to get here? 183 00:08:49,629 --> 00:08:51,062 Why did this happen? 184 00:08:51,163 --> 00:08:54,132 [tense music playing] 185 00:09:00,740 --> 00:09:04,509 [Cheryl] My name is Cheryl and I knew Sarah Hart. 186 00:09:04,610 --> 00:09:08,380 We worked together at Kohl's Department Store. 187 00:09:08,481 --> 00:09:12,117 She was the assistant store manager. 188 00:09:16,556 --> 00:09:18,356 [dramatic music playing] 189 00:09:18,457 --> 00:09:20,859 [Cheryl] Saturday, March 24th, 190 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:23,228 I had gone into the store 191 00:09:23,329 --> 00:09:26,731 and when I came in I realized 192 00:09:26,832 --> 00:09:28,433 that it was a different manager 193 00:09:28,534 --> 00:09:30,769 when it was supposed to be Sarah. 194 00:09:30,870 --> 00:09:32,938 And so I, kind of, looked at her and was like, 195 00:09:33,039 --> 00:09:35,574 "What are you doing here?" And she said that, 196 00:09:35,675 --> 00:09:38,176 Sarah had sent a text message 197 00:09:38,277 --> 00:09:41,546 at like 3:00 in the morning that she was sick. 198 00:09:41,647 --> 00:09:44,049 "I possibly needed to go to the hospital." 199 00:09:45,051 --> 00:09:46,618 We both just thought it was kind of weird 200 00:09:46,719 --> 00:09:48,787 because she had just worked the day before 201 00:09:48,888 --> 00:09:51,556 and she seemed totally fine. 202 00:09:51,657 --> 00:09:54,559 But on Sunday evening, 203 00:09:54,660 --> 00:09:56,328 they still hadn't heard from her. 204 00:09:57,463 --> 00:10:00,265 She was a dependable person. 205 00:10:00,366 --> 00:10:01,600 If she said she was gonna be there, 206 00:10:01,701 --> 00:10:03,234 she was gonna be there. 207 00:10:03,336 --> 00:10:07,238 I sent a text message and told her, 208 00:10:07,340 --> 00:10:09,874 "Can you let us know what's going on? 209 00:10:09,976 --> 00:10:11,610 You're kind of freaking everybody out." 210 00:10:11,711 --> 00:10:14,713 But there was nothing. 211 00:10:14,814 --> 00:10:17,115 Just radio silence. 212 00:10:17,216 --> 00:10:20,218 [dramatic music playing] 213 00:10:21,554 --> 00:10:23,121 [Cheryl] Everybody came in Monday 214 00:10:23,222 --> 00:10:25,256 and we kind of kept waiting to see 215 00:10:25,358 --> 00:10:27,392 if Sarah was gonna come in. 216 00:10:29,161 --> 00:10:32,864 And, you know, we gave her till about 9:30, 10:00, 217 00:10:32,965 --> 00:10:34,633 and she still hadn't showed. 218 00:10:35,835 --> 00:10:37,869 I decided to call 911. 219 00:10:37,970 --> 00:10:39,371 [tense music playing] 220 00:10:39,472 --> 00:10:40,605 [911 operator speaking] 221 00:10:40,706 --> 00:10:43,608 [Cheryl speaking] 222 00:10:43,709 --> 00:10:45,210 [911 operator speaking] 223 00:10:45,311 --> 00:10:46,511 [Cheryl speaking] 224 00:10:46,612 --> 00:10:48,513 [911 operator speaking] 225 00:10:48,614 --> 00:10:54,619 [Cheryl speaking] 226 00:10:56,455 --> 00:10:59,290 [911 operator speaking] 227 00:10:59,358 --> 00:11:05,463 [Cheryl speaking] 228 00:11:10,269 --> 00:11:11,770 [dramatic music playing] 229 00:11:11,871 --> 00:11:15,140 And about 10 minutes later... 230 00:11:15,241 --> 00:11:16,941 [cell phone vibrating] 231 00:11:17,043 --> 00:11:20,178 [Cheryl] My phone rang, and it was an officer, 232 00:11:20,279 --> 00:11:23,114 and I explained the situation to him, 233 00:11:23,215 --> 00:11:24,949 and he says, "Well, 234 00:11:25,051 --> 00:11:26,418 how many children does she have?" 235 00:11:26,519 --> 00:11:28,853 And I said she has six. 236 00:11:28,954 --> 00:11:31,623 He asked if I knew anything about her 237 00:11:31,724 --> 00:11:33,291 not feeding her children? 238 00:11:35,861 --> 00:11:38,596 And that kind of threw me for a loop 239 00:11:38,698 --> 00:11:40,832 and I said I don't... 240 00:11:40,933 --> 00:11:42,367 I don't know anything about that. 241 00:11:46,572 --> 00:11:49,174 We just needed somebody to go out to her house 242 00:11:49,275 --> 00:11:51,543 and make sure she's okay. 243 00:11:53,112 --> 00:11:56,347 And he said that he didn't need to go up there 244 00:11:56,449 --> 00:11:59,584 because he had already been up there once that day 245 00:11:59,685 --> 00:12:03,421 because of a call from DSHS, 246 00:12:05,091 --> 00:12:07,692 the Department of Health and Social Services. 247 00:12:09,428 --> 00:12:11,830 And he said that they have packed their stuff 248 00:12:11,931 --> 00:12:13,398 and split. 249 00:12:13,499 --> 00:12:16,801 And he says that it appears that they're on the run. 250 00:12:21,941 --> 00:12:24,976 [dramatic music playing] 251 00:12:25,077 --> 00:12:27,979 [Det. Adam] On March 27th, 2018, 252 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:31,049 Mendocino County reached out to Clark County for assistance 253 00:12:31,150 --> 00:12:35,320 to do a welfare check at the Hart Family residence. 254 00:12:37,923 --> 00:12:40,925 [dramatic music playing] 255 00:12:44,263 --> 00:12:45,997 [It. Shannon] We had, at that point 256 00:12:46,098 --> 00:12:48,066 eight known family members. 257 00:12:48,167 --> 00:12:50,502 Five established and recovered 258 00:12:50,603 --> 00:12:52,537 in the County of Mendocino 259 00:12:52,638 --> 00:12:54,539 but I don't know where 260 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:56,775 these other three children might be. 261 00:12:57,843 --> 00:12:59,377 [Det. Adam] Upon getting that call, 262 00:12:59,478 --> 00:13:01,312 the Sheriff's Office was able to look back 263 00:13:01,413 --> 00:13:03,248 and see that the day prior on the 26th 264 00:13:03,349 --> 00:13:05,450 there had been two welfare check requests 265 00:13:05,584 --> 00:13:07,418 at the same house. 266 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:09,888 One from a coworker of Sarah's 267 00:13:09,989 --> 00:13:12,123 concerned that she had missed work 268 00:13:12,224 --> 00:13:14,993 and also a call from a CPS worker 269 00:13:15,094 --> 00:13:17,929 who had made previous attempts to go out 270 00:13:18,030 --> 00:13:19,230 and contact the family. 271 00:13:19,331 --> 00:13:20,565 [dramatic music playing] 272 00:13:20,666 --> 00:13:22,066 [911 operator speaking] 273 00:13:22,168 --> 00:13:25,170 [CPS speaking] 274 00:13:31,177 --> 00:13:33,211 [911 operator speaking] 275 00:13:33,312 --> 00:13:36,614 [CPS speaking] 276 00:13:36,715 --> 00:13:38,783 [911 operator speaking] 277 00:13:38,884 --> 00:13:39,984 [CPS speaking] 278 00:13:41,487 --> 00:13:42,987 [It. Shannon] I talked to a deputy 279 00:13:43,088 --> 00:13:45,924 and he went out with one of his sergeants. 280 00:13:46,025 --> 00:13:47,659 They were able to make entry, 281 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:49,561 but... 282 00:13:49,662 --> 00:13:50,795 there was no sign of trouble, 283 00:13:50,896 --> 00:13:52,764 nothing out of place. 284 00:13:52,865 --> 00:13:54,766 They basically said the house was neat 285 00:13:54,867 --> 00:13:57,302 and in good order. 286 00:13:57,403 --> 00:13:59,604 [Det. Adam] There was food out on the table. 287 00:13:59,705 --> 00:14:01,673 Food in the fridge. 288 00:14:01,774 --> 00:14:03,842 It all seemed open and accessible to anybody 289 00:14:03,943 --> 00:14:07,045 who would've wanted it. 290 00:14:07,146 --> 00:14:08,980 We did know that the CPS worker 291 00:14:09,081 --> 00:14:11,950 had left a card a few days earlier, 292 00:14:12,051 --> 00:14:14,219 and so, it was unknown if they were fleeing 293 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:15,553 that investigation 294 00:14:15,654 --> 00:14:16,955 if they was at a short trip 295 00:14:17,056 --> 00:14:19,691 or if they were leaving for good, 296 00:14:19,792 --> 00:14:21,292 we just didn't know. 297 00:14:25,064 --> 00:14:28,766 There are a lot of families that have CPS involvement. 298 00:14:28,868 --> 00:14:32,804 It doesn't always amount to neglect, abuse, 299 00:14:32,905 --> 00:14:34,772 or any kind of criminal case 300 00:14:34,874 --> 00:14:37,976 but I talked to Child Protective Service 301 00:14:38,077 --> 00:14:40,678 and we started to learn a little bit more 302 00:14:40,779 --> 00:14:43,514 about the Hart background 303 00:14:43,616 --> 00:14:46,050 and it also involved additional 304 00:14:46,151 --> 00:14:48,720 allegations of abuse in other areas 305 00:14:48,821 --> 00:14:51,522 that they had lived in. 306 00:14:51,624 --> 00:14:53,892 And over the next several days, 307 00:14:53,993 --> 00:14:57,328 we had started looking at those kind of things as well. 308 00:15:01,133 --> 00:15:04,135 [dramatic music playing] 309 00:15:07,773 --> 00:15:10,341 [It. Shannon] We were able to track several relatives 310 00:15:10,442 --> 00:15:13,244 down to the South Dakota area. 311 00:15:13,345 --> 00:15:15,380 [all] Happy birthday to you. 312 00:15:15,481 --> 00:15:17,348 [Cynthia] Jen's aunt relate to us 313 00:15:17,449 --> 00:15:19,550 that she had seen the children 314 00:15:19,652 --> 00:15:21,686 within the last couple of years 315 00:15:21,787 --> 00:15:25,924 and had the most contact with the children family-wise. 316 00:15:26,025 --> 00:15:28,192 We ultimately were able to send her 317 00:15:28,294 --> 00:15:30,962 some photos via email 318 00:15:31,063 --> 00:15:33,197 and she was able to positively identify 319 00:15:33,299 --> 00:15:36,534 who we had in our possession at that point. 320 00:15:39,605 --> 00:15:40,939 Markis was the easiest. 321 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:44,108 He had a very distinct jawline. 322 00:15:44,209 --> 00:15:48,746 And you could see that in all of his photos. 323 00:15:48,847 --> 00:15:51,749 When we were looking at Jeremiah and Devonte, 324 00:15:51,850 --> 00:15:54,886 their faces were very, very similar. 325 00:15:54,987 --> 00:15:58,222 And the aunt informed us of a mole 326 00:15:58,324 --> 00:15:59,958 that Jeremiah had 327 00:16:00,059 --> 00:16:04,629 and we made the identification of it being Jeremiah. 328 00:16:04,730 --> 00:16:06,497 When we got to the female, 329 00:16:06,598 --> 00:16:09,867 we were wavering between Hannah and Abigail. 330 00:16:09,935 --> 00:16:12,070 The aunt gave us information 331 00:16:12,171 --> 00:16:15,473 of Hannah missing two front teeth. 332 00:16:15,574 --> 00:16:19,410 We were able to positively identify 333 00:16:19,511 --> 00:16:21,512 Jennifer, 334 00:16:21,613 --> 00:16:23,614 Sarah, 335 00:16:23,716 --> 00:16:25,416 Jeremiah, 336 00:16:25,517 --> 00:16:27,318 Markis, 337 00:16:27,419 --> 00:16:28,953 and Abigail 338 00:16:29,054 --> 00:16:31,756 as the deceased folks that we had. 339 00:16:33,559 --> 00:16:36,160 [ominous music playing] 340 00:16:36,261 --> 00:16:37,462 [Sheriff Tom] I'm Sheriff Tom Allman, 341 00:16:37,563 --> 00:16:39,130 Mendocino County Sheriff. 342 00:16:39,231 --> 00:16:40,865 Certainly, this is a tragic day 343 00:16:40,966 --> 00:16:43,434 for Mendocino County tragic week. 344 00:16:43,535 --> 00:16:46,804 There may be many questions about what caused the accident 345 00:16:46,905 --> 00:16:48,940 and no new information has been developed. 346 00:16:49,041 --> 00:16:50,841 There's a lot of unknowns on this. 347 00:16:50,909 --> 00:16:53,077 The detective sergeant and I said 348 00:16:53,178 --> 00:16:55,813 we need to open up active missing persons report 349 00:16:55,914 --> 00:16:58,349 on the three kids that weren't found. 350 00:16:58,450 --> 00:17:00,018 People may wonder why do you do 351 00:17:00,119 --> 00:17:01,719 a missing person case if, you know, 352 00:17:01,820 --> 00:17:04,055 they were killed in a traffic accident. 353 00:17:04,156 --> 00:17:08,092 But in this case, the bodies were missing. 354 00:17:08,193 --> 00:17:10,094 We have every indication to believe that 355 00:17:10,195 --> 00:17:12,730 all six kids were in the SUV. 356 00:17:12,831 --> 00:17:15,466 However, only three bodies have been recovered. 357 00:17:15,567 --> 00:17:18,836 Sierra is still missing, 358 00:17:18,937 --> 00:17:21,039 Hannah is still missing, 359 00:17:21,140 --> 00:17:24,242 and Devonte is still missing. 360 00:17:24,343 --> 00:17:26,377 When we put out a press release 361 00:17:26,478 --> 00:17:29,180 asking for information, 362 00:17:29,281 --> 00:17:31,983 we wanna know where they came from, 363 00:17:32,084 --> 00:17:34,018 where they've been. 364 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:36,921 All we wanna do is get some media coverage. 365 00:17:37,022 --> 00:17:40,525 We're looking for these kids, can you tell us anything? 366 00:17:40,626 --> 00:17:45,229 [dramatic music playing] 367 00:17:45,330 --> 00:17:48,299 [birds chirping] 368 00:17:51,070 --> 00:17:54,405 [Jackie] Wednesday, March 28th, 2018, 369 00:17:54,506 --> 00:17:57,809 our newsroom received word from California 370 00:17:57,910 --> 00:18:01,646 that there was an Oregon SUV that had gone over 371 00:18:01,747 --> 00:18:03,815 a steep embankment on the coast. 372 00:18:03,916 --> 00:18:05,450 [news reporter] What caused the family 373 00:18:05,551 --> 00:18:07,385 to drive over a cliff to their death? 374 00:18:07,486 --> 00:18:09,554 That's the question multiple agencies 375 00:18:09,655 --> 00:18:12,290 from California to Washington are investigating. 376 00:18:12,391 --> 00:18:14,058 [Jackie] Anytime a whole family 377 00:18:14,159 --> 00:18:16,160 is killed in a crash it's a huge news story. 378 00:18:16,261 --> 00:18:18,830 But then the photographer that I worked with 379 00:18:18,931 --> 00:18:20,598 back in 2016 380 00:18:20,699 --> 00:18:22,467 ran into the newsroom and said, 381 00:18:22,568 --> 00:18:25,236 "Jackie, we interviewed them at the Bernie Sanders rally." 382 00:18:25,337 --> 00:18:29,974 They've been standing in line for hours to Feel the Bern. 383 00:18:30,075 --> 00:18:31,442 In the crowd, the boy who started 384 00:18:31,543 --> 00:18:32,944 the free hug revolution. 385 00:18:33,045 --> 00:18:35,146 We could not believe it. 386 00:18:35,247 --> 00:18:37,281 They're such a well-known family, 387 00:18:37,382 --> 00:18:40,651 he's such an adorable boy, they all were. 388 00:18:40,752 --> 00:18:42,887 Hart and his family are all smiles 389 00:18:42,988 --> 00:18:45,423 with what they call Hart Bern. 390 00:18:45,524 --> 00:18:46,958 He's planting the seeds of a revolution. 391 00:18:47,059 --> 00:18:48,459 It's not... It's not a fake thing. 392 00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:50,261 It's not just a young people thing. 393 00:18:50,362 --> 00:18:51,929 A lot of my friends and family, 394 00:18:52,030 --> 00:18:54,065 this is what we've been waiting for. 395 00:18:54,166 --> 00:18:55,900 It was stunning. 396 00:18:56,001 --> 00:18:58,903 And we knew that this was going to be a story 397 00:18:59,004 --> 00:19:00,705 that we'd be following. 398 00:19:04,710 --> 00:19:06,043 So we immediately started Googling 399 00:19:06,145 --> 00:19:09,714 where they could've gone off. 400 00:19:09,815 --> 00:19:13,284 And the more we zoomed in we're, like, 401 00:19:13,385 --> 00:19:17,522 "How do you go off the edge like that? 402 00:19:17,623 --> 00:19:19,323 How does that happen?" 403 00:19:19,424 --> 00:19:23,361 [dramatic music playing] 404 00:19:23,462 --> 00:19:25,530 [Jackie] So the newsroom sent my colleague 405 00:19:25,631 --> 00:19:28,966 Bob High to the house. 406 00:19:29,067 --> 00:19:32,170 And he immediately saw the CPS card 407 00:19:32,271 --> 00:19:33,804 in the door. 408 00:19:33,906 --> 00:19:35,673 [Bob] A business card from 409 00:19:35,774 --> 00:19:37,475 a Washington State Child Protective Services worker 410 00:19:37,576 --> 00:19:39,043 was still in the front door 411 00:19:39,144 --> 00:19:40,678 of the Hart family's home Wednesday. 412 00:19:40,779 --> 00:19:42,980 [Jackie] So Bob went to the neighbors 413 00:19:43,081 --> 00:19:45,449 and they were the ones who revealed 414 00:19:45,551 --> 00:19:47,685 that they called CPS. 415 00:19:47,786 --> 00:19:49,353 [Bob] One of the Hart's adopted children 416 00:19:49,454 --> 00:19:51,189 started asking neighbors Dana 417 00:19:51,290 --> 00:19:53,791 and Bruce Dekalb for food every day. 418 00:19:53,892 --> 00:19:56,627 [Dana] Non-perishable food items. 419 00:19:56,728 --> 00:19:59,997 And was asking that we not tell his mom 420 00:20:00,098 --> 00:20:02,833 and to, you know, hide it and put it by the fence 421 00:20:02,935 --> 00:20:04,635 so he could get to it 422 00:20:04,736 --> 00:20:06,504 and that they were withholding food from him 423 00:20:06,605 --> 00:20:08,472 as punishment. 424 00:20:08,574 --> 00:20:10,308 [Jackie] Devonte, he was saying, 425 00:20:10,409 --> 00:20:12,276 "Our moms, they're punishing us. 426 00:20:12,377 --> 00:20:15,846 They're depriving us of food. We're starving." 427 00:20:15,948 --> 00:20:17,782 Looking at their social media posts, 428 00:20:17,883 --> 00:20:19,617 they were living this seemingly 429 00:20:19,751 --> 00:20:21,652 perfect life online. 430 00:20:21,753 --> 00:20:23,287 They created this persona, 431 00:20:23,388 --> 00:20:26,657 this family living in harmony. 432 00:20:26,758 --> 00:20:29,026 But it was completely different 433 00:20:29,127 --> 00:20:30,895 from what was actually emerging 434 00:20:30,996 --> 00:20:34,732 and what was happening behind those closed doors. 435 00:20:34,833 --> 00:20:37,301 We knew that there was just so much more to the story 436 00:20:37,402 --> 00:20:39,103 and we had really just hit the tip of the iceberg 437 00:20:39,204 --> 00:20:40,771 at that point. 438 00:20:46,144 --> 00:20:48,312 [suspenseful music playing] 439 00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:04,462 [Irene] I was driving in my car 440 00:21:04,563 --> 00:21:08,032 on the way to the gym 441 00:21:08,133 --> 00:21:12,069 and my phone rang and a dear friend of mine 442 00:21:12,170 --> 00:21:13,537 who did not know the Harts 443 00:21:13,639 --> 00:21:16,440 but knew that I was friends with them. 444 00:21:16,541 --> 00:21:18,175 "She said, "I think you need to pull over 445 00:21:18,277 --> 00:21:20,745 and look at the news right now." 446 00:21:20,846 --> 00:21:22,179 We just learned from 447 00:21:22,281 --> 00:21:23,881 the Mendocino County Sheriff's office 448 00:21:23,982 --> 00:21:25,783 that they believe the entire Hart family, 449 00:21:25,884 --> 00:21:28,419 all eight of them, were likely in this SUV 450 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:30,187 when it plunged 100-feet over a cliff 451 00:21:30,289 --> 00:21:32,890 on the California coast. 452 00:21:32,991 --> 00:21:34,792 [Irene] I went on my phone 453 00:21:34,893 --> 00:21:37,395 and I looked at the news. 454 00:21:38,964 --> 00:21:41,899 And I fell to pieces. 455 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:44,035 To some, a very vibrant family, 456 00:21:44,136 --> 00:21:46,003 a model of what love looks like. 457 00:21:46,104 --> 00:21:48,339 Others though say there were signs of trouble 458 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:50,107 prompting Child Protective Services 459 00:21:50,175 --> 00:21:51,709 to start an investigation. 460 00:21:51,810 --> 00:21:53,778 As the news continue to develop 461 00:21:53,879 --> 00:21:58,282 and the truth about the story started to be revealed, 462 00:21:58,383 --> 00:22:01,786 it became so much more difficult to process. 463 00:22:04,623 --> 00:22:06,824 [Jackie] The minute the news broke, 464 00:22:06,925 --> 00:22:10,094 the social media mob really, like, took off. 465 00:22:10,195 --> 00:22:12,363 I was getting bombarded with messages and they were, 466 00:22:12,464 --> 00:22:14,532 like, "You're not reporting the full story." 467 00:22:14,633 --> 00:22:17,435 Or, "They probably dropped the kids off." 468 00:22:17,536 --> 00:22:19,904 Or, "Devonte may be being human-trafficked." 469 00:22:20,005 --> 00:22:24,008 I mean, it was unbelievable. 470 00:22:24,109 --> 00:22:25,776 Then we'd have the people coming 471 00:22:25,877 --> 00:22:27,945 to their defense, "These were amazing moms." 472 00:22:28,046 --> 00:22:30,414 We weren't duped, that love wasn't fake. 473 00:22:30,515 --> 00:22:31,782 They love their children. 474 00:22:31,883 --> 00:22:34,118 They weren't White Supremacist. 475 00:22:34,219 --> 00:22:36,954 They just were isolated. 476 00:22:37,055 --> 00:22:38,189 They were in pain. 477 00:22:38,290 --> 00:22:41,425 I had massive questions. 478 00:22:41,526 --> 00:22:43,861 The biggest one was, 479 00:22:43,962 --> 00:22:45,529 "How do you just drive-off a cliff 480 00:22:45,630 --> 00:22:48,065 with a whole car full of people?" 481 00:22:52,204 --> 00:22:54,739 [dramatic music playing] 482 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:56,173 [Jackie] Our newsroom was working 483 00:22:56,274 --> 00:22:58,008 to put this timeline together. 484 00:22:58,110 --> 00:23:02,513 We knew CPS had visited the house on Friday, 485 00:23:02,614 --> 00:23:06,250 the SUV was in the driveway and no one answered the door. 486 00:23:06,351 --> 00:23:10,154 They go back on Monday, the SUV was gone. 487 00:23:10,255 --> 00:23:12,690 We knew that the Hart's clearly had left 488 00:23:12,791 --> 00:23:14,825 and they left in a hurry. 489 00:23:14,926 --> 00:23:16,260 [waves crashing] 490 00:23:16,361 --> 00:23:18,562 [Jackie] But why did they do that? 491 00:23:18,663 --> 00:23:21,665 When did they leave? Where did they go? 492 00:23:21,767 --> 00:23:23,734 There's got to be a forensic way 493 00:23:23,835 --> 00:23:25,336 to put this together. 494 00:23:25,437 --> 00:23:28,439 [dramatic music playing] 495 00:23:30,609 --> 00:23:33,411 [suspenseful music playing] 496 00:23:33,512 --> 00:23:37,882 [Shannon] So the actual accident investigation 497 00:23:37,983 --> 00:23:39,350 falls under the jurisdiction 498 00:23:39,451 --> 00:23:41,652 of the California Highway Patrol. 499 00:23:43,755 --> 00:23:46,991 They have highly-trained accident investigators 500 00:23:47,092 --> 00:23:49,093 to kind of piece this all back together. 501 00:23:51,363 --> 00:23:53,197 [Sheriff Tom] They can find out the speed 502 00:23:53,298 --> 00:23:54,932 it was going, 503 00:23:55,033 --> 00:23:56,567 they can find out if bulbs were working, 504 00:23:56,668 --> 00:23:59,069 if brakes were applied. 505 00:23:59,171 --> 00:24:03,707 They will do as much of a forensic investigation 506 00:24:03,809 --> 00:24:05,743 on that vehicle 507 00:24:05,844 --> 00:24:08,879 as some pathologist 508 00:24:08,980 --> 00:24:11,515 would do a forensic investigation on a body. 509 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:17,455 [Shannon] Initially, we're thinking 510 00:24:17,589 --> 00:24:20,491 this unsuspecting family is driving down Highway 1 511 00:24:20,592 --> 00:24:23,060 which is a two-lane narrow highway 512 00:24:23,161 --> 00:24:25,296 possibly at night 513 00:24:25,397 --> 00:24:28,799 and they accidentally leave the roadway 514 00:24:28,900 --> 00:24:31,535 and go across this very large turnout. 515 00:24:36,074 --> 00:24:38,976 Normally, you would've expected... 516 00:24:40,545 --> 00:24:42,112 skid marks. 517 00:24:42,214 --> 00:24:45,149 You know, where they applied massive braking 518 00:24:45,250 --> 00:24:48,986 but there were no skid marks at all. 519 00:24:50,555 --> 00:24:53,224 Also, according to the Highway Patrol, 520 00:24:53,325 --> 00:24:56,327 there was no indication of seatbelt use, 521 00:24:56,428 --> 00:24:58,662 which is odd because some of the friends 522 00:24:58,763 --> 00:25:01,632 of the family indicated that Jennifer 523 00:25:01,733 --> 00:25:04,969 was adamant about the use of safety belts 524 00:25:05,070 --> 00:25:06,670 when they're driving. 525 00:25:06,738 --> 00:25:09,473 But the investigation indicated 526 00:25:09,574 --> 00:25:11,375 no safety belts were worn at all. 527 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:18,115 Eventually, the California Highway Patrol 528 00:25:18,216 --> 00:25:19,617 were able to download some information 529 00:25:19,718 --> 00:25:22,253 from the vehicle's computer 530 00:25:24,222 --> 00:25:28,726 and it was determined that there was no braking 531 00:25:28,827 --> 00:25:33,898 and the speedometer was pegged and locked 532 00:25:33,999 --> 00:25:37,635 at around 90 miles an hour. 533 00:25:40,105 --> 00:25:42,039 Those are indications that the vehicle 534 00:25:42,140 --> 00:25:45,009 was involved in rapid acceleration. 535 00:25:45,110 --> 00:25:46,844 [news reporter] Electronic data pulled 536 00:25:46,945 --> 00:25:48,646 from the Hart's SUV indicates Jennifer Hart 537 00:25:48,747 --> 00:25:50,948 pulled off Highway 1 at a dirt turnaround. 538 00:25:51,049 --> 00:25:53,784 Investigators say the SUV stopped 70 feet 539 00:25:53,885 --> 00:25:56,387 from the cliff edge and then accelerated 540 00:25:56,488 --> 00:25:59,456 plunging the entire family to their death. 541 00:26:02,827 --> 00:26:04,695 [Sheriff Tom] When you start putting the totality 542 00:26:04,796 --> 00:26:08,165 of everything together you would be a village idiot 543 00:26:08,266 --> 00:26:10,501 if you didn't think that, 544 00:26:10,602 --> 00:26:13,037 you know, something was rotten here. 545 00:26:13,138 --> 00:26:16,874 [ominous music playing] 546 00:26:16,975 --> 00:26:18,409 [Sheriff Tom] If on day one I had said, 547 00:26:18,510 --> 00:26:20,344 "Gosh, this was an intentional act" 548 00:26:20,445 --> 00:26:22,012 then it was homicide. 549 00:26:22,113 --> 00:26:24,748 Oh, can you imagine?" People would've said, 550 00:26:24,849 --> 00:26:27,284 "Who are you to make that determination?" 551 00:26:27,385 --> 00:26:30,721 You know? Who would kill six kids? 552 00:26:30,822 --> 00:26:34,291 I'm a dad. Who would kill six kids? 553 00:26:34,392 --> 00:26:36,293 But if this is not an accident, 554 00:26:36,394 --> 00:26:38,195 that means one thing, 555 00:26:38,296 --> 00:26:40,698 it means it was a crime. 556 00:26:40,799 --> 00:26:43,968 If it's a crime, it's murder. 557 00:26:49,341 --> 00:26:50,407 [news reporter] And we begin tonight 558 00:26:50,508 --> 00:26:51,442 with new information. 559 00:26:51,543 --> 00:26:53,377 Investigators are shedding new light on why 560 00:26:53,478 --> 00:26:55,279 they believed a Washington family's 561 00:26:55,380 --> 00:26:57,648 deadly crash off a cliff in California 562 00:26:57,749 --> 00:27:00,084 was intentional. 563 00:27:00,151 --> 00:27:02,186 [Sheriff Tom] At the very beginning, 564 00:27:02,287 --> 00:27:04,888 when I said I have no reason to believe 565 00:27:04,990 --> 00:27:06,557 this was anything but an accident, 566 00:27:06,658 --> 00:27:07,858 I believed it. 567 00:27:07,959 --> 00:27:09,860 But that changed. 568 00:27:09,961 --> 00:27:12,029 When things started developing, 569 00:27:12,130 --> 00:27:16,667 from a traffic accident to a homicide investigation, 570 00:27:16,768 --> 00:27:20,037 that's not a baby step, that's a big leap 571 00:27:20,138 --> 00:27:21,839 but it is what it is. 572 00:27:21,940 --> 00:27:23,273 [news reported] With me, Shane Cavanaugh, 573 00:27:23,375 --> 00:27:24,942 staff writer for the Oregonian. 574 00:27:25,043 --> 00:27:27,444 Mendocino County Sheriff Tom Allman. 575 00:27:27,545 --> 00:27:29,380 So right after the accident I was on CNN 576 00:27:29,481 --> 00:27:30,948 to make that statement. 577 00:27:31,049 --> 00:27:32,516 Sheriff, I wanna begin with you. 578 00:27:32,617 --> 00:27:34,318 We're starting to get at least a picture 579 00:27:34,419 --> 00:27:37,121 of where this family was before this horrible accident. 580 00:27:37,222 --> 00:27:39,857 Is that helping you in any way to figure out 581 00:27:39,958 --> 00:27:41,525 why the accident happened 582 00:27:41,626 --> 00:27:43,694 and where are those three missing kids are? 583 00:27:43,795 --> 00:27:45,529 Well, it's certainly helping us 584 00:27:45,630 --> 00:27:47,331 determine the route. 585 00:27:47,432 --> 00:27:48,832 I... I'm to the point where I no longer am calling 586 00:27:48,933 --> 00:27:50,601 this an accident. I'm calling it a crime. 587 00:27:50,702 --> 00:27:53,704 [ominous music playing] 588 00:28:02,347 --> 00:28:06,350 [Zaron] Every day I go on Twitter looking for stories. 589 00:28:06,451 --> 00:28:09,119 Because as a journalist, it is the place 590 00:28:09,220 --> 00:28:10,587 that you can see a story 591 00:28:10,689 --> 00:28:13,557 before it becomes a news story. 592 00:28:13,658 --> 00:28:16,126 And some Black women that I follow, 593 00:28:16,227 --> 00:28:18,929 they were posting about Devonte Hart, 594 00:28:19,030 --> 00:28:21,865 this kid who had gone missing and they said it's the kid 595 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:25,669 from that viral photo from the Ferguson protest. 596 00:28:25,770 --> 00:28:29,773 And I said, "Wait, that's the kid who's missing?" 597 00:28:29,874 --> 00:28:34,178 And it stuck with me because I'll put it very simple, 598 00:28:34,279 --> 00:28:37,047 when you have two White mothers 599 00:28:37,148 --> 00:28:39,349 who adopted not one, not two, 600 00:28:39,451 --> 00:28:41,518 but multiple Black children, 601 00:28:41,619 --> 00:28:46,223 enough to fill a Suburban that alone is the curiosity. 602 00:28:46,324 --> 00:28:49,059 But as soon as the story started developing, 603 00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:50,694 people started to dig into it. 604 00:28:50,795 --> 00:28:52,396 Not only was there a lot more to it 605 00:28:52,497 --> 00:28:55,933 but the tragedy was incomprehensible. 606 00:28:56,034 --> 00:28:59,036 [dramatic music playing] 607 00:29:05,543 --> 00:29:09,446 [Dr. Raquel] In 2004, Markis, Abigail, 608 00:29:09,547 --> 00:29:11,014 and Hannah came to the attention 609 00:29:11,082 --> 00:29:13,517 of Child Welfare in Texas. 610 00:29:13,618 --> 00:29:16,286 The children were very young at the time 611 00:29:16,387 --> 00:29:18,622 and they came from poor backgrounds. 612 00:29:18,723 --> 00:29:22,760 [Sharon] Markis was five, he was in school, 613 00:29:22,861 --> 00:29:26,964 then Hannah was about two, 614 00:29:27,065 --> 00:29:29,900 and then Abi was still a baby, 615 00:29:30,001 --> 00:29:32,603 she was like six months. 616 00:29:32,704 --> 00:29:36,306 The biological mom had some issues 617 00:29:36,407 --> 00:29:38,475 and the children weren't getting the medical care 618 00:29:38,576 --> 00:29:40,444 that they needed. 619 00:29:40,545 --> 00:29:43,413 And he decided that it would be best for the kids 620 00:29:43,515 --> 00:29:47,017 if she went ahead and relinquished her rights 621 00:29:47,118 --> 00:29:51,655 and let them get adopted. 622 00:29:51,756 --> 00:29:53,857 [Dr. Raquel] Jen and Sarah worked through 623 00:29:53,958 --> 00:29:56,693 the Permanent Family Resource Center 624 00:29:56,795 --> 00:29:59,963 which was an adoption service agency 625 00:30:00,064 --> 00:30:02,666 in Minnesota 626 00:30:02,767 --> 00:30:07,771 and adopted Markis and his two siblings 627 00:30:07,872 --> 00:30:12,409 Abigail and Hannah in 2006. 628 00:30:12,510 --> 00:30:14,812 [Sharon] Jen and Sarah were a same-sex couple 629 00:30:14,913 --> 00:30:17,848 and instead of trying to have a baby through, 630 00:30:17,949 --> 00:30:20,350 you know, artificial means, they felt that adopting 631 00:30:20,451 --> 00:30:24,288 a sibling group was a better alternative. 632 00:30:24,389 --> 00:30:27,291 I met them on the phone the first time 633 00:30:27,392 --> 00:30:30,294 and there was just something about them. 634 00:30:30,395 --> 00:30:32,996 They were open to any therapies 635 00:30:33,097 --> 00:30:35,265 that the kids needed to go through. 636 00:30:35,366 --> 00:30:37,401 They were very supportive of the fact 637 00:30:37,502 --> 00:30:40,938 that they were siblings and needed to stay together. 638 00:30:41,039 --> 00:30:42,673 I don't know. It was just the things 639 00:30:42,774 --> 00:30:44,775 that they said were all the right things. 640 00:30:47,178 --> 00:30:48,979 [dramatic music playing] 641 00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:50,480 [Dr. Raquel] The adoption worker found the home 642 00:30:50,582 --> 00:30:52,182 was suitable. 643 00:30:52,283 --> 00:30:56,753 They were making adequate sleeping arrangements. 644 00:30:56,855 --> 00:30:59,289 They took them for speech therapy 645 00:30:59,390 --> 00:31:02,259 and kept up with their medication regiment. 646 00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:05,095 Alpha, Beta, Gamma, Delta. 647 00:31:05,196 --> 00:31:07,998 [Sharon] Approximately a year later 648 00:31:08,099 --> 00:31:11,401 I had to take three more kids to Minnesota. 649 00:31:11,502 --> 00:31:15,005 So, I checked in on Markis, and Hannah, and Abi. 650 00:31:15,106 --> 00:31:18,008 And the difference was amazing. 651 00:31:20,111 --> 00:31:22,379 [Diane] I met Jen and Sarah in our store 652 00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:25,249 in Alexandria, Minnesota. 653 00:31:25,350 --> 00:31:27,818 Markis, Hannah, and Abigail, 654 00:31:27,919 --> 00:31:30,554 they came into the store quite a bit. 655 00:31:30,655 --> 00:31:32,322 Sarah and Jen were very proud of them 656 00:31:32,423 --> 00:31:35,492 and introduced them to all of us. 657 00:31:35,593 --> 00:31:38,362 As soon as they saw you, you'd always get a hug. 658 00:31:38,463 --> 00:31:40,597 They'd always talk to you. 659 00:31:40,698 --> 00:31:44,334 They just seem like a happy family. 660 00:31:44,435 --> 00:31:47,437 [ominous music playing] 661 00:31:54,012 --> 00:31:58,081 [Dr. Raquel] In 2008, Sarah and Jen were approved 662 00:31:58,182 --> 00:32:01,318 to adopt Devonte, 663 00:32:01,419 --> 00:32:04,488 Jeremiah, and Sierra. 664 00:32:04,589 --> 00:32:06,823 But while they're in that process, 665 00:32:06,925 --> 00:32:10,928 there is an allegation about a physical disciplining 666 00:32:11,029 --> 00:32:14,197 in the home that may have been inappropriate. 667 00:32:18,503 --> 00:32:20,737 Hannah made a report in school 668 00:32:20,838 --> 00:32:25,409 that she was hit by her parent. 669 00:32:25,510 --> 00:32:30,147 Jen and Sarah both denied having any knowledge 670 00:32:30,248 --> 00:32:34,251 of how or why Hannah had bruises. 671 00:32:34,352 --> 00:32:36,320 Child Welfare did investigate, 672 00:32:36,421 --> 00:32:40,557 but by all accounts there was not enough evidence 673 00:32:40,658 --> 00:32:43,927 to indicate that that had actually happened. 674 00:32:46,864 --> 00:32:51,101 But on November 15th, 2010, 675 00:32:51,202 --> 00:32:53,070 Abigail was in school 676 00:32:53,171 --> 00:32:55,639 and she mentioned to her teacher 677 00:32:55,740 --> 00:32:59,009 that her mom gave her an owie, 678 00:33:01,045 --> 00:33:03,380 and she pulled up her shirt 679 00:33:03,481 --> 00:33:07,117 and her teacher saw bruises on her stomach. 680 00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:10,454 [Zaron] Based on the CPS reports, 681 00:33:10,555 --> 00:33:12,622 there are bruises indeed by her belly button 682 00:33:12,724 --> 00:33:15,993 but then also on her back, and up by her sternum. 683 00:33:16,094 --> 00:33:19,696 This is not some child who is clumsy or fallen. 684 00:33:19,797 --> 00:33:22,165 The cops find out that the parents felt the child 685 00:33:22,266 --> 00:33:23,834 needed to be disciplined because the child 686 00:33:23,935 --> 00:33:26,636 had a penny in her pocket. 687 00:33:26,738 --> 00:33:28,638 So the parents, Sarah and Jen, 688 00:33:28,740 --> 00:33:33,043 gets so upset that one of them beat the child. 689 00:33:33,144 --> 00:33:37,647 The child said it was Jen but the cops eventually 690 00:33:37,749 --> 00:33:41,251 arrested Sarah and she pleads to domestic assault. 691 00:33:46,991 --> 00:33:49,292 [Diane] I got a telephone call at home 692 00:33:49,394 --> 00:33:51,161 one evening from Sarah. 693 00:33:51,262 --> 00:33:52,796 She had some serious matter 694 00:33:52,897 --> 00:33:54,231 that she needed to take care of 695 00:33:54,332 --> 00:33:56,933 so she wanted to change shifts 696 00:33:57,035 --> 00:33:59,536 with me at the store. 697 00:33:59,637 --> 00:34:05,075 She told me that she had spanked Abigail too hard 698 00:34:05,176 --> 00:34:10,947 and there were bruises and the police were involved. 699 00:34:11,049 --> 00:34:14,518 I was surprised, disappointed, 700 00:34:14,619 --> 00:34:17,521 but when she told me the situation, 701 00:34:17,622 --> 00:34:19,556 there was something I guess that I felt 702 00:34:19,657 --> 00:34:22,459 just seemed a little bit off. 703 00:34:22,527 --> 00:34:25,896 And my gut instinct right away 704 00:34:25,997 --> 00:34:29,166 was that she was covering for Jen. 705 00:34:36,107 --> 00:34:37,908 [Jackie] "Sarah immediately took responsibility" 706 00:34:38,009 --> 00:34:41,178 for the spanking that occurred the previous day. 707 00:34:41,279 --> 00:34:43,080 The defendant explained that she and her partner 708 00:34:43,181 --> 00:34:45,782 Jennifer do not ordinarily use spanking 709 00:34:45,883 --> 00:34:47,918 as a disciplinary measure. 710 00:34:48,019 --> 00:34:50,020 However, they had recently resorted 711 00:34:50,121 --> 00:34:53,023 to spanking to deal with AH's behavior. 712 00:34:53,124 --> 00:34:55,225 The defendant admitted that she let her anger 713 00:34:55,293 --> 00:34:57,060 get out of control the previous day 714 00:34:57,161 --> 00:35:00,397 while dealing with AH. 715 00:35:00,498 --> 00:35:02,833 The defendant explained that she took AH 716 00:35:02,934 --> 00:35:04,501 into the bathroom 717 00:35:04,602 --> 00:35:07,704 and bent AH over the edge of the tub. 718 00:35:11,342 --> 00:35:12,776 The defendant admitted that she hit 719 00:35:12,877 --> 00:35:15,078 AH on the back side 720 00:35:15,179 --> 00:35:17,447 and acknowledged that the marks on AH's stomach 721 00:35:17,548 --> 00:35:20,851 "probably came from AH being bent over the tub." 722 00:35:23,421 --> 00:35:25,956 It's just hard to read. 723 00:35:26,057 --> 00:35:29,059 [dramatic music playing] 724 00:35:44,108 --> 00:35:46,076 [Dr. Raquel] Between November 2010 725 00:35:46,177 --> 00:35:47,744 and January 2011, 726 00:35:47,845 --> 00:35:50,247 there were six allegations of abuse 727 00:35:50,348 --> 00:35:51,948 against Jen and Sarah 728 00:35:52,049 --> 00:35:54,017 called into Child Protective Services. 729 00:35:55,753 --> 00:36:00,023 But even after Sarah was convicted, 730 00:36:00,124 --> 00:36:02,159 Child Welfare did not feel 731 00:36:02,260 --> 00:36:05,028 that there was enough information or evidence 732 00:36:05,129 --> 00:36:07,898 in this case to suggest that these children 733 00:36:07,999 --> 00:36:11,268 were being neglected and/or abused. 734 00:36:13,137 --> 00:36:14,504 [Zaron] Eventually, 735 00:36:14,605 --> 00:36:16,173 Jen and Sarah seemed to notice 736 00:36:16,274 --> 00:36:19,176 that if they can minimize the children's contact 737 00:36:19,277 --> 00:36:22,546 with other adults then nobody would be able 738 00:36:22,647 --> 00:36:24,681 to file reports with CPS, 739 00:36:24,782 --> 00:36:27,017 nobody would be able to involve police officers 740 00:36:27,118 --> 00:36:28,518 coming to the house unannounced 741 00:36:28,619 --> 00:36:30,754 to check on their children. 742 00:36:30,855 --> 00:36:33,690 So they learned the obvious lesson, 743 00:36:33,791 --> 00:36:36,560 remove the children from school. 744 00:36:36,661 --> 00:36:38,495 So you no longer have school nurses, 745 00:36:38,596 --> 00:36:40,397 and cops, and social workers noticing 746 00:36:40,498 --> 00:36:42,933 the children had now fallen through the cracks. 747 00:36:50,408 --> 00:36:51,875 [dramatic music playing] 748 00:36:51,976 --> 00:36:53,977 [news reporter] Authorities say they have recovered 749 00:36:54,078 --> 00:36:55,512 a body they believe belongs to one 750 00:36:55,613 --> 00:36:57,347 of the three children who went missing 751 00:36:57,448 --> 00:37:01,284 along the Northern California coastline. 752 00:37:01,385 --> 00:37:03,420 [Cynthia] On April 7th I was notified 753 00:37:03,521 --> 00:37:06,089 that we were able to locate remains 754 00:37:06,190 --> 00:37:07,958 of another young juvenile. 755 00:37:08,059 --> 00:37:10,126 [waves crashing] 756 00:37:10,228 --> 00:37:11,895 [Cynthia] She was in the general vicinity 757 00:37:11,996 --> 00:37:14,231 of where the crash was. 758 00:37:16,334 --> 00:37:19,736 We were pretty positive we had one of the two females 759 00:37:19,837 --> 00:37:22,305 that we were missing. 760 00:37:22,406 --> 00:37:25,275 And when we were able to gain DNA samples 761 00:37:25,376 --> 00:37:27,611 is when we were able to identify her 762 00:37:27,712 --> 00:37:30,480 as Sierra Hart. 763 00:37:32,149 --> 00:37:34,417 Finding her, it just solidified 764 00:37:34,518 --> 00:37:37,387 that we were now looking into a recovery process 765 00:37:37,488 --> 00:37:39,923 for the last two children. 766 00:37:40,024 --> 00:37:43,026 [ominous music playing] 767 00:37:45,997 --> 00:37:47,397 [Dan] Some new details tonight 768 00:37:47,498 --> 00:37:49,032 about the Washington family 769 00:37:49,133 --> 00:37:50,867 who drove off a cliff in California. 770 00:37:50,968 --> 00:37:52,636 Tonight we're learning information now 771 00:37:52,737 --> 00:37:56,139 about the biological mother of three of those kids 772 00:37:56,240 --> 00:37:58,675 and their aunt's fight to keep them in Texas. 773 00:37:58,743 --> 00:38:00,510 [news reporter] This attorney, Shonda Jones, 774 00:38:00,611 --> 00:38:02,345 represented the aunt. 775 00:38:02,446 --> 00:38:04,014 She said she held onto these case documents 776 00:38:04,115 --> 00:38:05,882 for seven years longer than is normal 777 00:38:05,983 --> 00:38:07,450 because she felt this decision 778 00:38:07,551 --> 00:38:09,486 was such an injustice. 779 00:38:09,587 --> 00:38:11,354 [Shonda] I remember I was at my office 780 00:38:11,455 --> 00:38:13,356 and I kept hearing about it. 781 00:38:13,457 --> 00:38:15,959 And then they said Devonte, 782 00:38:16,060 --> 00:38:18,461 they said Harris County, and they said Minneapolis. 783 00:38:18,562 --> 00:38:21,798 And I know I said, "That's my case." 784 00:38:23,434 --> 00:38:25,935 I was representing Priscilla Celestine 785 00:38:26,037 --> 00:38:29,105 who was a paternal aunt of Devonte, 786 00:38:29,206 --> 00:38:31,141 Jeremiah, and Sarah. 787 00:38:31,242 --> 00:38:34,444 I'm not gonna lie, I became furious. 788 00:38:34,545 --> 00:38:35,945 I wanted people to know, you know, 789 00:38:36,047 --> 00:38:38,014 there's another backstory to this 790 00:38:38,115 --> 00:38:40,717 than besides what the media is presenting. 791 00:38:43,254 --> 00:38:46,623 The mother of the children, she had a drug problem 792 00:38:46,724 --> 00:38:48,792 and the state of Texas was seeking 793 00:38:48,893 --> 00:38:50,960 to terminate her parental rights, 794 00:38:51,062 --> 00:38:52,495 as well as the father 795 00:38:52,596 --> 00:38:54,164 of the children's parental rights. 796 00:38:54,265 --> 00:38:56,166 And the father of the children, 797 00:38:56,267 --> 00:38:59,436 his sister was Ms. Priscilla Celestine. 798 00:38:59,537 --> 00:39:01,504 She stepped in because she wanted the children 799 00:39:01,605 --> 00:39:03,907 to remain with a family member 800 00:39:04,008 --> 00:39:06,443 instead of being placed into foster care 801 00:39:06,544 --> 00:39:08,211 with the state of Texas. 802 00:39:08,312 --> 00:39:10,213 Ms. Celestine always had a special place in my heart. 803 00:39:10,314 --> 00:39:15,852 She is a wonderful person, honest, loyal, reliable. 804 00:39:18,823 --> 00:39:21,358 [Dr. Raquel] Ms. Celestine kept a clean home. 805 00:39:21,459 --> 00:39:25,562 She took really good care of the children. 806 00:39:25,663 --> 00:39:28,565 One day while Celestine was at work, 807 00:39:28,666 --> 00:39:31,768 the daughter allowed their biological mother 808 00:39:31,869 --> 00:39:34,871 to come in and visit with the children, 809 00:39:34,972 --> 00:39:39,509 and the Child Welfare worker showed up. 810 00:39:39,610 --> 00:39:41,678 They felt like this was a violation. 811 00:39:41,779 --> 00:39:45,281 It put the children at risk 812 00:39:45,383 --> 00:39:48,585 and that it was such a safety issue 813 00:39:48,686 --> 00:39:50,253 that they had to remove the children 814 00:39:50,354 --> 00:39:53,356 from that home immediately. 815 00:39:53,457 --> 00:39:56,459 [dramatic music playing] 816 00:39:59,163 --> 00:40:01,064 [Mia] My name is Mia Williams 817 00:40:01,165 --> 00:40:02,932 and in 2006 I was a supervisor 818 00:40:03,033 --> 00:40:07,737 with Child Protective Services in Houston, Texas. 819 00:40:07,838 --> 00:40:11,408 Within the state of Texas, if there is an immediate risk 820 00:40:11,509 --> 00:40:14,210 or harm with the child in that placement, 821 00:40:14,311 --> 00:40:17,213 the state has the authority 822 00:40:17,314 --> 00:40:20,183 to remove that child from the home. 823 00:40:20,284 --> 00:40:22,118 And in this case, 824 00:40:22,219 --> 00:40:25,121 according to the family opinion, 825 00:40:25,222 --> 00:40:27,056 the case worker went to the home, 826 00:40:27,158 --> 00:40:30,627 saw the biological mother there, 827 00:40:30,728 --> 00:40:33,263 probably received the necessary approvals, 828 00:40:33,364 --> 00:40:35,198 and the children were ultimately removed 829 00:40:35,299 --> 00:40:37,333 from the home and I'm sure they probably placed them 830 00:40:37,435 --> 00:40:40,670 in an emergency shelter. 831 00:40:40,771 --> 00:40:43,406 [Dr. Raquel] Ms. Celestine, by all accounts, 832 00:40:43,507 --> 00:40:46,009 she was providing a good home for them. 833 00:40:46,110 --> 00:40:48,378 And one simple slip-up 834 00:40:48,479 --> 00:40:50,547 letting the mother come see them, 835 00:40:50,681 --> 00:40:54,384 they just removed them automatically. 836 00:40:54,485 --> 00:40:56,286 [Zaron] Priscilla Celestine fought 837 00:40:56,387 --> 00:40:59,622 for those children and said I want these children home 838 00:40:59,723 --> 00:41:01,925 in my house because they are my family. 839 00:41:02,026 --> 00:41:04,761 And the law said, "No." 840 00:41:04,862 --> 00:41:08,198 Priscilla Celestine, she tries to get custody 841 00:41:08,299 --> 00:41:09,966 of the children again. 842 00:41:10,067 --> 00:41:12,435 Her petition for custody is denied. 843 00:41:12,536 --> 00:41:14,304 The children are then put into the system 844 00:41:14,405 --> 00:41:17,073 and are eventually allowed to be adopted by the Harts. 845 00:41:17,174 --> 00:41:20,176 [dramatic music playing] 846 00:41:32,690 --> 00:41:34,357 [Shonda] It was just very baffling to me 847 00:41:34,458 --> 00:41:37,093 because it seemed like it was all a sham, 848 00:41:37,194 --> 00:41:39,662 like, everything was already planned 849 00:41:39,763 --> 00:41:41,164 and no matter what I said or did, 850 00:41:41,265 --> 00:41:43,600 their mind was already made up. 851 00:41:43,701 --> 00:41:45,602 And I couldn't understand, like, why are they trying 852 00:41:45,703 --> 00:41:48,905 to get these children out of Texas to Minnesota. 853 00:41:49,006 --> 00:41:50,673 Come to find out, 854 00:41:50,774 --> 00:41:52,609 the people that they were placing them with 855 00:41:52,710 --> 00:41:56,412 were the ones who were actually abusing children. 856 00:41:56,514 --> 00:42:00,850 [Mia] The Texas Department of Family and Protective Services policy states 857 00:42:00,951 --> 00:42:03,253 that throughout the life of the case 858 00:42:03,354 --> 00:42:08,057 you should be looking for relatives or fictive kin, 859 00:42:08,158 --> 00:42:11,261 meaning folks that have a relationship 860 00:42:11,362 --> 00:42:14,364 with the child. 861 00:42:14,465 --> 00:42:16,633 [Zaron] Their aunt lost custody because she allowed 862 00:42:16,734 --> 00:42:18,501 the children to have an unsupervised visit 863 00:42:18,602 --> 00:42:20,370 with their own mother. 864 00:42:20,471 --> 00:42:22,405 Should that be the penalty that these children 865 00:42:22,506 --> 00:42:24,674 are now gonna be consigned to whatever fates 866 00:42:24,775 --> 00:42:27,010 the winds allow them? 867 00:42:27,111 --> 00:42:28,912 The White mothers, after they adopt them, 868 00:42:29,013 --> 00:42:30,880 get busted for physically abusing them. 869 00:42:30,981 --> 00:42:34,484 There's almost no consequences. 870 00:42:34,585 --> 00:42:37,153 The punishment is nothing, 871 00:42:37,254 --> 00:42:39,122 just think about that for a second. 872 00:42:41,525 --> 00:42:43,159 [Bruce] So, good afternoon. 873 00:42:43,260 --> 00:42:44,394 I'm Bruce Carpenter. 874 00:42:44,495 --> 00:42:46,796 I'm the commander of the Ukiah area. 875 00:42:48,098 --> 00:42:51,768 We got some preliminary toxicology results back. 876 00:42:52,603 --> 00:42:54,904 We have determined that 877 00:42:55,005 --> 00:42:57,173 Jennifer Hart's blood alcohol level was 878 00:42:57,274 --> 00:43:00,877 above the legal limit based on preliminary results. 879 00:43:02,379 --> 00:43:05,281 [Cynthia] Jen had alcohol in her system 880 00:43:05,382 --> 00:43:06,983 which, according to family, 881 00:43:07,084 --> 00:43:09,152 was a very unusual thing for her. 882 00:43:09,253 --> 00:43:12,221 The preliminary blood alcohol content 883 00:43:12,323 --> 00:43:15,558 was at 0.102. 884 00:43:15,659 --> 00:43:18,294 [Cynthia] We were told that she very rarely drank alcohol. 885 00:43:18,395 --> 00:43:20,763 So it was a shock to her family 886 00:43:20,864 --> 00:43:22,732 that she had alcohol in her system. 887 00:43:24,068 --> 00:43:26,436 And the other preliminary results as well 888 00:43:26,537 --> 00:43:28,471 that have come to light 889 00:43:28,572 --> 00:43:30,773 is that Sarah Hart 890 00:43:30,874 --> 00:43:34,510 had a significant amount of benadryl in her system. 891 00:43:36,313 --> 00:43:38,648 The children, also, were determined 892 00:43:38,749 --> 00:43:42,285 to have had benadryl-type of substances 893 00:43:42,386 --> 00:43:44,020 in their system. 894 00:43:58,535 --> 00:44:00,637 [Cynthia] Looking at the three children, 895 00:44:00,738 --> 00:44:02,772 their levels of diphenhydramine 896 00:44:02,873 --> 00:44:04,107 was actually very high. 897 00:44:06,944 --> 00:44:08,811 [It. Shannon] At those high levels, 898 00:44:08,912 --> 00:44:12,682 it was fairly indicative that Sarah and Jennifer Hart 899 00:44:12,783 --> 00:44:15,385 drugged their children before this incident. 900 00:44:17,054 --> 00:44:18,755 [camera shutter clicks] 901 00:44:21,058 --> 00:44:22,125 [Cynthia] That was a huge shock to me 902 00:44:22,226 --> 00:44:23,159 and to all of us 903 00:44:24,161 --> 00:44:26,729 that they took the time to actually give 904 00:44:26,830 --> 00:44:29,432 this amount of benadryl to the children. 905 00:44:31,568 --> 00:44:36,439 And it had to have been done an hour, two hours beforehand 906 00:44:36,540 --> 00:44:39,475 in order for the children to be sound asleep 907 00:44:41,078 --> 00:44:43,212 when they drove that car off of the cliff. 908 00:44:55,392 --> 00:44:57,393 [Dr. Joni] What we know as forensic psychologists is 909 00:44:57,494 --> 00:45:01,097 that people wind up doing bad things 910 00:45:01,198 --> 00:45:02,665 for a lot of different reasons. 911 00:45:03,934 --> 00:45:08,938 The term "family annihilation" refers to someone who kills 912 00:45:09,039 --> 00:45:11,340 several close family members 913 00:45:11,442 --> 00:45:12,975 in a relatively short amount of time. 914 00:45:14,678 --> 00:45:16,679 For people on the outside, 915 00:45:16,780 --> 00:45:20,183 family annihilation is always a sudden event 916 00:45:20,284 --> 00:45:22,585 and a complete shock. 917 00:45:22,686 --> 00:45:26,889 But, this was not an example of two individuals 918 00:45:26,990 --> 00:45:29,225 who just, on the spur of the moment, 919 00:45:29,326 --> 00:45:30,693 were so desperate and despondent 920 00:45:30,794 --> 00:45:32,161 that they drove off a cliff. 921 00:45:33,163 --> 00:45:35,531 They had taken some very specific steps 922 00:45:35,632 --> 00:45:38,868 to plan out this murder-suicide. 923 00:45:40,170 --> 00:45:43,106 In this case, there was something that happens 924 00:45:43,207 --> 00:45:45,775 that sets the wheel in motion. 925 00:45:45,876 --> 00:45:47,443 We don't have a clear understanding 926 00:45:47,544 --> 00:45:49,178 of what that stress was, 927 00:45:49,279 --> 00:45:51,347 but it's the end result 928 00:45:51,448 --> 00:45:53,583 of all these things that have been going on 929 00:45:53,684 --> 00:45:54,984 for a long period of time. 930 00:45:58,856 --> 00:46:00,523 [reporter] Tonight, a call for change, 931 00:46:00,624 --> 00:46:03,493 critics are calling out Oregon DHS 932 00:46:03,594 --> 00:46:05,762 after recently-released documents reveal 933 00:46:05,863 --> 00:46:08,097 officials here had reports of abuse 934 00:46:08,198 --> 00:46:10,166 involving the Hart family 935 00:46:10,234 --> 00:46:12,268 long before their SUV crashed 936 00:46:12,369 --> 00:46:14,670 on the California coast last month. 937 00:46:14,772 --> 00:46:16,773 [Dr. Raquel] This was a report that was called in 938 00:46:16,874 --> 00:46:19,375 from one of Jennifer's friends. 939 00:46:21,044 --> 00:46:23,846 And what prompted this call was an incident 940 00:46:23,947 --> 00:46:27,416 that happened on 06/28 in 2013. 941 00:46:30,687 --> 00:46:34,323 Jen and the kids had been staying with friends. 942 00:46:34,424 --> 00:46:37,593 They had ordered pizza one night. 943 00:46:37,694 --> 00:46:40,429 The friend thought that it was a little strange 944 00:46:40,531 --> 00:46:43,065 Jen only gave the children, 945 00:46:43,167 --> 00:46:45,735 each of them, a very small slice of pizza. 946 00:46:47,504 --> 00:46:49,572 In the middle of the night, 947 00:46:49,673 --> 00:46:52,742 one of the children came down and they ate the pizza. 948 00:46:54,444 --> 00:46:57,246 And in the morning when it was discovered, 949 00:46:57,347 --> 00:46:58,948 Jen got very upset. 950 00:47:00,884 --> 00:47:04,787 The friend reported that she dragged one of the kids, 951 00:47:06,089 --> 00:47:11,027 and then she stated that Jen had all six kids lay down 952 00:47:11,128 --> 00:47:13,663 on an inflated air-mattress 953 00:47:13,764 --> 00:47:16,232 with sleep masks on their faces 954 00:47:16,333 --> 00:47:19,902 and their arms by their side for five hours. 955 00:47:21,405 --> 00:47:24,040 And when the friend spoke to her about this, 956 00:47:24,141 --> 00:47:27,743 told her that she was concerned about the situation, 957 00:47:28,178 --> 00:47:29,679 Jen did not see 958 00:47:29,780 --> 00:47:32,114 that what she was doing was extreme. 959 00:47:38,488 --> 00:47:40,756 [suspenseful music playing] 960 00:47:44,127 --> 00:47:46,395 [Dr. Joni] There were a lot of indications 961 00:47:46,496 --> 00:47:49,732 that these kids were not being treated well, 962 00:47:49,833 --> 00:47:52,568 and that these kids were, at the very least, 963 00:47:52,636 --> 00:47:54,303 in psychological danger. 964 00:47:55,639 --> 00:47:58,741 Withholding food, particularly on a regular basis, 965 00:47:58,842 --> 00:48:00,643 it's so damaging to kids, 966 00:48:00,744 --> 00:48:03,613 physically, in terms of their development, 967 00:48:03,714 --> 00:48:05,915 but also psychologically. 968 00:48:07,217 --> 00:48:08,551 [Dr. Raquel] According to the report, 969 00:48:08,652 --> 00:48:11,320 Jen would kinda turn on and off. 970 00:48:11,421 --> 00:48:13,389 She would only show them affection 971 00:48:13,490 --> 00:48:16,058 when she wanted to capture certain pictures. 972 00:48:16,159 --> 00:48:17,894 And then as soon as that was done, 973 00:48:17,995 --> 00:48:18,995 she would go back to, 974 00:48:19,096 --> 00:48:20,730 pretty much, ignoring the kids. 975 00:48:22,432 --> 00:48:24,467 The friends said that the kids were 976 00:48:24,568 --> 00:48:27,069 like trained robots, and if questioned, would 977 00:48:27,170 --> 00:48:29,538 likely not say anything. 978 00:48:30,841 --> 00:48:33,876 But if one can get Markis alone, 979 00:48:33,977 --> 00:48:37,146 he might honestly say what is happening in the home. 980 00:48:44,388 --> 00:48:47,523 CPS did do an interview with the children. 981 00:48:48,558 --> 00:48:50,826 They separated them from the parents, 982 00:48:50,928 --> 00:48:51,894 but in-home, 983 00:48:51,995 --> 00:48:56,065 and asked them about how they're disciplined. 984 00:48:56,166 --> 00:48:59,835 All of the children denied that they were being abused. 985 00:49:00,704 --> 00:49:03,673 But this is not necessarily unusual 986 00:49:03,774 --> 00:49:06,776 for a child not to say anything, 987 00:49:06,877 --> 00:49:09,979 especially if they're being interviewed 988 00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:12,715 in the presence of, or within the vicinity 989 00:49:12,816 --> 00:49:14,116 of their parent. 990 00:49:25,896 --> 00:49:29,832 The child welfare workers sit down with Jen and Sarah 991 00:49:29,933 --> 00:49:33,970 to speak about these allegations. 992 00:49:34,071 --> 00:49:37,039 Jen just passed it off as, you know, 993 00:49:37,140 --> 00:49:40,176 they had food issues, and that these children came 994 00:49:40,277 --> 00:49:43,212 from a home where they were abused and neglected, 995 00:49:43,313 --> 00:49:44,814 and now they're in a loving home. 996 00:49:44,915 --> 00:49:47,783 And sometimes they act out. 997 00:49:47,884 --> 00:49:50,653 [Zaron] They present this, like, feral child model. 998 00:49:50,754 --> 00:49:53,155 This is the power that Jen, as a white woman, has is 999 00:49:53,256 --> 00:49:55,624 that if she says something, people believe it. 1000 00:49:57,160 --> 00:49:59,061 [Dr. Joni] Jen, I think, tended to cope 1001 00:49:59,162 --> 00:50:00,396 by blaming other people, 1002 00:50:00,497 --> 00:50:02,832 by blaming the situation. 1003 00:50:02,933 --> 00:50:05,034 "It's the kids who had the food issues. 1004 00:50:05,135 --> 00:50:07,303 It's not that we're not feeding them" 1005 00:50:25,956 --> 00:50:28,891 [Dr. Raquel] When the doctor did the evaluation, 1006 00:50:28,992 --> 00:50:31,027 it was stated that each and every one 1007 00:50:31,128 --> 00:50:33,329 of the children, except for Jeremiah, 1008 00:50:33,430 --> 00:50:35,998 was below the weight and height 1009 00:50:36,066 --> 00:50:37,867 where they should be for their age. 1010 00:50:39,436 --> 00:50:41,137 But yet, he said that they were 1011 00:50:41,238 --> 00:50:43,372 still normal and healthy children. 1012 00:50:45,275 --> 00:50:47,476 [Zaron] You have two sets of children, 1013 00:50:47,577 --> 00:50:49,478 the two groups are not biologically related, 1014 00:50:49,579 --> 00:50:51,280 and yet they all have the same conditions 1015 00:50:51,381 --> 00:50:53,115 of not being on the growth charts, 1016 00:50:53,216 --> 00:50:55,084 not tracking in terms of normal development. 1017 00:50:56,720 --> 00:50:58,721 Why do they all have the same condition? 1018 00:51:04,194 --> 00:51:06,862 The CPS worker takes six months to complete 1019 00:51:06,963 --> 00:51:09,198 the report, and by the day after Christmas, 1020 00:51:09,299 --> 00:51:10,599 they receive a report that... 1021 00:51:11,368 --> 00:51:12,735 there was reason to believe 1022 00:51:12,836 --> 00:51:14,737 that there may be something going on 1023 00:51:14,838 --> 00:51:16,072 in the house. 1024 00:51:16,173 --> 00:51:17,840 They just say that it is inconclusive 1025 00:51:17,941 --> 00:51:19,775 and that they lacked the evidence to act. 1026 00:51:23,380 --> 00:51:27,349 The message to the parents is "We're getting away with it." 1027 00:51:28,552 --> 00:51:32,054 And the message to the kids is, 1028 00:51:32,155 --> 00:51:33,622 "Nothing is gonna be done. 1029 00:51:34,624 --> 00:51:36,358 Nobody's got your back", 1030 00:51:36,460 --> 00:51:38,961 and makes it less and less likely 1031 00:51:39,062 --> 00:51:40,296 that there would be an opportunity 1032 00:51:40,397 --> 00:51:42,498 for anyone to intervene. 1033 00:51:49,039 --> 00:51:51,574 - [soft clapping] - [indistinct chatter] 1034 00:51:51,675 --> 00:51:55,111 [people chanting "Om"] 1035 00:52:10,260 --> 00:52:12,661 [Irene] I met the Harts in 2013 1036 00:52:12,762 --> 00:52:16,365 at the Mystic Festival in Oregon. 1037 00:52:16,466 --> 00:52:19,668 The kids were there. They were really small at that point. 1038 00:52:19,769 --> 00:52:21,737 I remember... 1039 00:52:21,838 --> 00:52:23,072 thinking to myself, "They must be 1040 00:52:23,173 --> 00:52:24,773 like, three or four years old." 1041 00:52:26,409 --> 00:52:28,911 I was most drawn towards Devonte 1042 00:52:29,012 --> 00:52:30,579 with his "Free Hugs" sign on, 1043 00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:32,381 because it felt like an invitation. 1044 00:52:33,416 --> 00:52:36,018 He had so much charm, 1045 00:52:36,119 --> 00:52:38,754 just charms the pants off of everybody. 1046 00:52:40,624 --> 00:52:46,662 Devonte was bright, joyful, but also timid. 1047 00:52:46,763 --> 00:52:49,298 [indistinct singing] 1048 00:52:49,399 --> 00:52:51,800 [Niema] He would often wear these, like, body suits, 1049 00:52:51,902 --> 00:52:54,670 or little bits of colorful costume pieces. 1050 00:52:54,771 --> 00:52:57,940 But whatever larger-than-life-ness 1051 00:52:58,041 --> 00:53:00,142 he might have had in the pictures, 1052 00:53:00,243 --> 00:53:01,911 [audience member] Woo! Beautiful. 1053 00:53:03,246 --> 00:53:04,480 [Niema] ...when you touched him, he was 1054 00:53:04,581 --> 00:53:07,082 just this thin boy. 1055 00:53:07,751 --> 00:53:09,585 [all cheering] 1056 00:53:10,487 --> 00:53:11,854 Jen looked like 1057 00:53:11,955 --> 00:53:13,822 the commanding officer in a way. 1058 00:53:13,924 --> 00:53:16,192 She was just like, "Okay. You go here, you do this." 1059 00:53:17,327 --> 00:53:19,495 She was definitely always organizing the kids, 1060 00:53:19,596 --> 00:53:22,965 or taking the photos or staging things. 1061 00:53:25,168 --> 00:53:27,236 [Irene] Everyone was just celebrating them 1062 00:53:27,337 --> 00:53:28,904 and they were just like, leading the way. 1063 00:53:29,005 --> 00:53:30,239 Like, "This is how you live." 1064 00:53:31,141 --> 00:53:33,242 This is the picture of happiness. 1065 00:53:34,678 --> 00:53:35,711 I remember being like, 1066 00:53:35,812 --> 00:53:37,513 "I want to be like Sarah and Jennifer one day. 1067 00:53:37,647 --> 00:53:40,282 I want to have that much love to offer my child." 1068 00:53:42,519 --> 00:53:43,752 [Niema] I don't think they were really close 1069 00:53:43,853 --> 00:53:45,254 to a lot of people in terms of like, 1070 00:53:45,355 --> 00:53:46,822 having people over. 1071 00:53:46,923 --> 00:53:50,392 And, so Facebook was how most people knew 1072 00:53:50,493 --> 00:53:52,261 what was happening in their lives. 1073 00:53:52,362 --> 00:53:54,163 And Jen was pretty active and posting, 1074 00:53:54,264 --> 00:53:56,098 and, so it seemed like 1075 00:53:56,199 --> 00:53:59,068 they were happy, you know, from what she would post. 1076 00:53:59,169 --> 00:54:02,738 Very well-curated display of life. 1077 00:54:04,140 --> 00:54:05,941 [Dr. Joni] We can learn a lot 1078 00:54:06,042 --> 00:54:08,410 about a family or about a person 1079 00:54:08,511 --> 00:54:10,980 by how they use social media. 1080 00:54:11,081 --> 00:54:13,916 How often they use it to get their emotional needs met, 1081 00:54:14,017 --> 00:54:15,718 how often do they interact with other people, 1082 00:54:15,819 --> 00:54:18,487 what kind of pictures do they post, 1083 00:54:18,622 --> 00:54:21,056 it tells us a lot about their values, 1084 00:54:21,157 --> 00:54:22,591 and the things that are important to them. 1085 00:54:23,827 --> 00:54:27,763 But when I look at Jen's post, 1086 00:54:27,864 --> 00:54:30,232 I see, based on my professional experience, 1087 00:54:30,333 --> 00:54:32,368 based on my knowledge as a mom, 1088 00:54:32,469 --> 00:54:34,470 something doesn't seem right 1089 00:54:34,571 --> 00:54:38,073 in terms of how this person is presenting this image. 1090 00:54:40,176 --> 00:54:42,645 [Irene] Devonte was definitely the focus 1091 00:54:42,746 --> 00:54:44,813 of her Facebook page. 1092 00:54:45,915 --> 00:54:50,552 You never really saw her post about... Markis. 1093 00:54:50,654 --> 00:54:55,391 Or Jeremiah, or Hannah or Ciera. 1094 00:54:55,525 --> 00:54:58,093 She may have mentioned some interaction 1095 00:54:58,194 --> 00:55:02,164 that had to do with Devonte. 1096 00:55:02,265 --> 00:55:06,935 But the focus was very much her talking about her son, 1097 00:55:07,037 --> 00:55:10,039 and how she saved him, you know? 1098 00:55:20,317 --> 00:55:22,051 [Dr. Joni] So, this is a post that Jennifer made 1099 00:55:22,152 --> 00:55:26,155 on November the 8th, 2014. 1100 00:55:26,256 --> 00:55:28,624 "We were standing in the grocery checkout line. 1101 00:55:28,725 --> 00:55:29,958 An elderly man was standing 1102 00:55:30,060 --> 00:55:31,827 at the end of the bagging area. 1103 00:55:31,928 --> 00:55:34,630 He spots our son, looks him up and down." 1104 00:55:34,731 --> 00:55:36,365 "Man: I can tell you're going 1105 00:55:36,466 --> 00:55:38,367 to be a baseball player when you grow up. 1106 00:55:38,468 --> 00:55:42,471 Son: Pauses, tilts his head and gives a closed mouth grin. 1107 00:55:42,572 --> 00:55:45,941 "Actually, no. Baseball isn't really my thing." 1108 00:55:46,042 --> 00:55:48,410 [Joni] " Man: Well, I can tell you're gonna be a ball player." 1109 00:55:49,145 --> 00:55:50,379 As his mom, I can tell 1110 00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:52,848 there was a slight frustration inside of him. 1111 00:55:52,916 --> 00:55:55,351 Checkout lady: Oh, I bet you're gonna be a basketball 1112 00:55:55,452 --> 00:55:56,618 or soccer player then. 1113 00:55:57,420 --> 00:55:59,555 Son: No, I don't play any sports. 1114 00:55:59,656 --> 00:56:02,191 It's just not my thing. I just have other interests. 1115 00:56:03,293 --> 00:56:05,027 "Checkout lady, in a befuddled, 1116 00:56:05,161 --> 00:56:06,929 nearly astonished voice: 1117 00:56:07,030 --> 00:56:09,965 What? I have never met a kid 1118 00:56:10,033 --> 00:56:12,901 "that looks like you that doesn't play sports." 1119 00:56:13,002 --> 00:56:15,604 We all know what she means by "Looks like you." 1120 00:56:15,705 --> 00:56:19,441 "Man chuckling: Right? Never. They all do!" 1121 00:56:21,378 --> 00:56:24,012 "It was so obviously clear what was happening." 1122 00:56:24,114 --> 00:56:26,782 While I wanted so badly to step in and protect my son 1123 00:56:26,883 --> 00:56:29,952 from the ongoing racial stereotyping, I didn't. 1124 00:56:30,053 --> 00:56:31,954 [Zaron] I let him step into his own power 1125 00:56:32,055 --> 00:56:34,390 and he handled it brilliantly. 1126 00:56:34,491 --> 00:56:36,625 The statement, "I let him step into his own power" is 1127 00:56:36,726 --> 00:56:39,762 just gaggingly offensive. Anyway. 1128 00:56:39,863 --> 00:56:42,931 "Man: Well, what do you wanna be when you grow up? 1129 00:56:43,032 --> 00:56:44,767 "Son: I'm here to help people." 1130 00:56:44,868 --> 00:56:47,236 I'm here to inspire. Now. 1131 00:56:47,337 --> 00:56:49,071 "Man said, " What are you gonna do 1132 00:56:49,172 --> 00:56:50,706 to help and inspire people?" 1133 00:56:50,807 --> 00:56:53,041 [Zaron] " Son: I'm going to be myself." 1134 00:56:53,143 --> 00:56:56,078 No matter how much people try to make me something I'm not." 1135 00:56:56,179 --> 00:56:57,279 [in unison] "Have a great night." 1136 00:56:57,380 --> 00:56:59,448 "Flashes ginormous smile." 1137 00:56:59,549 --> 00:57:01,016 I think this kid will be all right. 1138 00:57:01,117 --> 00:57:02,584 No matter what is tossed at him. 1139 00:57:03,887 --> 00:57:05,788 The irony is that he will not be all right 1140 00:57:05,889 --> 00:57:07,222 because you were tossed at him. 1141 00:57:16,266 --> 00:57:20,235 Here's a post from Jen, dated November 13th, 2014. 1142 00:57:20,904 --> 00:57:22,237 "I share stories, photos," 1143 00:57:22,338 --> 00:57:24,339 and experiences of our family often. 1144 00:57:24,441 --> 00:57:25,641 I would never have expected 1145 00:57:25,742 --> 00:57:27,276 that one of my most recent posts would 1146 00:57:27,377 --> 00:57:29,011 impact people the way it has 1147 00:57:29,112 --> 00:57:32,080 and find its way to the Huffington Post. 1148 00:57:32,182 --> 00:57:35,217 Meet Devonte: The little boy with a big heart. 1149 00:57:35,285 --> 00:57:37,453 A young boy who was born into a life of drugs, 1150 00:57:37,554 --> 00:57:39,688 extreme poverty, danger, 1151 00:57:39,789 --> 00:57:41,623 and destined for a bleak future, 1152 00:57:41,724 --> 00:57:44,193 is defying stereotypes in the most remarkable way. 1153 00:57:54,904 --> 00:57:57,406 "Devonte Hart entered the world 12 years ago" 1154 00:57:57,507 --> 00:58:00,843 with drugs pumping through his tiny newborn body. 1155 00:58:00,944 --> 00:58:02,911 By the time he was four years old, 1156 00:58:03,012 --> 00:58:05,347 he had smoked, consumed alcohol, 1157 00:58:05,448 --> 00:58:07,850 handled guns, been shot at, 1158 00:58:07,984 --> 00:58:10,152 "and suffered severe abuse and neglect." 1159 00:58:11,120 --> 00:58:13,655 [Shonda] I remember reading an article 1160 00:58:13,756 --> 00:58:16,658 with the adopted mom saying that she remembered 1161 00:58:16,759 --> 00:58:19,094 Devonte being shot at, and that was a complete lie. 1162 00:58:20,129 --> 00:58:21,730 Show me the paperwork here in Houston 1163 00:58:21,831 --> 00:58:23,232 where someone said that. 1164 00:58:23,967 --> 00:58:25,200 "It was a life of little hope 1165 00:58:25,301 --> 00:58:27,569 and a future that seemed over before it began." 1166 00:58:29,939 --> 00:58:36,745 [reading] 1167 00:58:38,481 --> 00:58:41,083 [Zaron] So, the Huffington Post story, 1168 00:58:41,184 --> 00:58:42,551 all this stuff that's presented 1169 00:58:42,652 --> 00:58:44,853 as if it were documented fact, 1170 00:58:44,921 --> 00:58:47,322 these are all things that Jen reported. 1171 00:58:48,324 --> 00:58:50,259 She says, "When we adopted him, 1172 00:58:50,360 --> 00:58:52,160 he only knew [bleep] and [bleep] 1173 00:58:52,262 --> 00:58:54,696 And he struggled to identify with the names of foods, 1174 00:58:54,797 --> 00:58:56,098 body parts and everyday objects." 1175 00:58:56,199 --> 00:59:00,702 Those are literally quotes from Jen from the CPS report. 1176 00:59:01,804 --> 00:59:03,805 [Shonda] Again, she tells this story. 1177 00:59:03,907 --> 00:59:06,074 Miss Celestine never told me that about Devonte. 1178 00:59:06,743 --> 00:59:08,443 So he must have digressed 1179 00:59:08,545 --> 00:59:10,512 from the time that he left her. 1180 00:59:11,180 --> 00:59:14,182 I mean... that's ridiculous. 1181 00:59:15,885 --> 00:59:18,387 [Zaron] Jen figured out that if she puts forth a narrative, 1182 00:59:18,488 --> 00:59:20,055 somebody else will pick it up and repeat it, 1183 00:59:20,156 --> 00:59:21,123 and if someone else repeats it, 1184 00:59:21,224 --> 00:59:23,225 then she can say, "You know what they said." 1185 00:59:24,827 --> 00:59:26,628 [Dr. Joni] On the surface it looks like, 1186 00:59:26,729 --> 00:59:28,697 "Oh, it's all about my kid." 1187 00:59:29,265 --> 00:59:30,699 But, between the lines, 1188 00:59:30,800 --> 00:59:32,634 there is just this constant theme, 1189 00:59:32,735 --> 00:59:34,937 that "If it wasn't for us, 1190 00:59:35,038 --> 00:59:37,940 this kid would've ended up who knows where." 1191 00:59:38,041 --> 00:59:41,777 So what seems to be a story about Devonte 1192 00:59:41,878 --> 00:59:43,812 is really a story about Jen. 1193 00:59:46,349 --> 00:59:48,450 [Niema] In hindsight, it definitely looks like 1194 00:59:48,551 --> 00:59:50,619 they were painting this picture 1195 00:59:50,720 --> 00:59:52,421 of themselves as heroes, 1196 00:59:52,522 --> 00:59:55,857 and these children as very sad victims... 1197 00:59:57,093 --> 00:59:58,927 that needed to be rescued. 1198 01:00:00,897 --> 01:00:02,230 [Zaron] She's using Facebook 1199 01:00:02,332 --> 01:00:04,299 just like an advertiser or a marketer, 1200 01:00:05,735 --> 01:00:08,470 and she's selling white saviorhood. 1201 01:00:09,505 --> 01:00:11,807 But she doesn't care about the kids. 1202 01:00:11,908 --> 01:00:14,142 She just wants the likes and the dopamine hit. 1203 01:00:15,645 --> 01:00:17,813 She's hurting all of these people for that. 1204 01:00:26,055 --> 01:00:29,992 [Dr. Joni] Family annihilation is the most common form 1205 01:00:30,093 --> 01:00:31,660 of mass murder. 1206 01:00:31,761 --> 01:00:35,330 But it is an incredibly difficult event 1207 01:00:35,431 --> 01:00:37,666 to predict, because it is so rare. 1208 01:00:39,636 --> 01:00:41,603 I've been asked before, "Is there a personality 1209 01:00:41,704 --> 01:00:43,205 of the family annihilator?" And we know the answer 1210 01:00:43,306 --> 01:00:45,040 to that question is "No." 1211 01:00:46,309 --> 01:00:48,377 But there are some commonalities 1212 01:00:48,478 --> 01:00:50,012 that we sometimes find. 1213 01:00:51,247 --> 01:00:53,048 There's, often times, a history 1214 01:00:53,149 --> 01:00:55,317 of undiagnosed depression. 1215 01:00:55,418 --> 01:00:57,953 People who commit family annihilation, 1216 01:00:58,054 --> 01:01:02,891 often times have a strong need for status, 1217 01:01:03,593 --> 01:01:05,961 and for attention. 1218 01:01:06,062 --> 01:01:09,064 Then sometimes you have this black-and-white thinking, 1219 01:01:09,165 --> 01:01:13,535 "meaning "If you're not my friend, you're my enemy. 1220 01:01:13,636 --> 01:01:16,638 If things aren't good, they're horrible." 1221 01:01:16,739 --> 01:01:19,641 And then, almost always, you have 1222 01:01:19,742 --> 01:01:21,276 an environmental trigger. 1223 01:01:22,812 --> 01:01:26,515 Something happens that isn't responsible at all 1224 01:01:26,616 --> 01:01:27,849 for what happens, 1225 01:01:27,950 --> 01:01:30,252 but it becomes a precipitant. 1226 01:01:35,558 --> 01:01:38,060 [reporter] A few minutes ago, the grand jury deliberating 1227 01:01:38,161 --> 01:01:40,395 the death of Michael Brown issued its decision. 1228 01:01:40,496 --> 01:01:43,665 [newsreader] The Grand Jury will not indict Darren Wilson. 1229 01:01:43,766 --> 01:01:46,034 He's the white police officer who shot and killed 1230 01:01:46,135 --> 01:01:48,870 the young, unarmed black man Michael Brown in August. 1231 01:01:48,971 --> 01:01:51,540 [newsreader 2] The Grand Jury decision set off outrage 1232 01:01:51,641 --> 01:01:55,110 in communities not only throughout St. Louis, 1233 01:01:55,211 --> 01:01:56,778 but across the country. 1234 01:02:02,185 --> 01:02:05,087 [Niema] I remember when that hug image first appeared 1235 01:02:05,188 --> 01:02:07,889 on media, and how quickly it became viral, 1236 01:02:07,990 --> 01:02:11,293 and learned that it'd become kind of national news. 1237 01:02:11,394 --> 01:02:13,862 That was an iconic and beautiful image 1238 01:02:13,963 --> 01:02:15,931 and spoke to a hope 1239 01:02:16,032 --> 01:02:18,767 that we were feeling at that time. 1240 01:02:18,868 --> 01:02:20,335 As someone around here said today, 1241 01:02:20,436 --> 01:02:21,603 what the world needs now might 1242 01:02:21,704 --> 01:02:23,371 just be what we see in this photo. 1243 01:02:24,540 --> 01:02:28,577 I originally saw Devonte in that picture 1244 01:02:28,678 --> 01:02:30,512 with that cop on the news. 1245 01:02:30,613 --> 01:02:32,347 And I couldn't believe my eyes. 1246 01:02:32,448 --> 01:02:34,382 It was Devonte on the TV. 1247 01:02:35,718 --> 01:02:37,853 And he's hugging a cop in this picture, 1248 01:02:37,954 --> 01:02:39,755 and I'm like, thinking, 1249 01:02:39,856 --> 01:02:41,289 "Oh, my Gosh, maybe he'll 1250 01:02:41,390 --> 01:02:43,425 be a part of something really profound, 1251 01:02:43,526 --> 01:02:46,428 with everything that's happening with the protests." 1252 01:02:46,529 --> 01:02:49,397 I could tell it was meant to be like, 1253 01:02:49,499 --> 01:02:52,267 "Oh, this is this black boy 1254 01:02:52,368 --> 01:02:55,270 hugging this white cop in this moment of solidarity." 1255 01:02:56,672 --> 01:03:00,175 But the look on Devonte's face was mixed. 1256 01:03:00,276 --> 01:03:02,477 I don't know if he was sad 1257 01:03:02,578 --> 01:03:06,114 because of all that had happened, 1258 01:03:06,215 --> 01:03:08,517 or the interaction he just had with the police. 1259 01:03:09,752 --> 01:03:12,420 I remember, at the time, seeing that photo 1260 01:03:12,522 --> 01:03:14,790 and not fully understanding 1261 01:03:14,891 --> 01:03:17,192 that there was a lot more to this story than I knew. 1262 01:03:21,097 --> 01:03:22,864 [Zaron] When the photo was taken of him hugging the cop, 1263 01:03:22,965 --> 01:03:25,400 there were two photographers, both people of color, 1264 01:03:25,501 --> 01:03:27,969 who both noticed the same exact scene, 1265 01:03:28,070 --> 01:03:30,338 and they commented on it saying, 1266 01:03:30,439 --> 01:03:32,908 one said that it was clearly trauma. 1267 01:03:33,009 --> 01:03:35,243 Another said, "I don't know what's going on in this photo, 1268 01:03:35,344 --> 01:03:36,845 but I'm gonna leave it up to y'all to say 1269 01:03:36,946 --> 01:03:39,514 because this, to me, looks like this ain't right." 1270 01:03:41,083 --> 01:03:43,351 [Niema] Understanding how much of those children's lives were 1271 01:03:43,419 --> 01:03:46,421 staged and made into photo-ops, 1272 01:03:46,522 --> 01:03:48,790 I don't know that that moment was 1273 01:03:48,891 --> 01:03:51,092 actually consensual for Devonte. 1274 01:03:51,194 --> 01:03:54,129 I don't know if he actually wanted to hug that cop. 1275 01:03:56,299 --> 01:03:58,834 [Zaron] From what I've seen, a lot of the friends were 1276 01:03:58,935 --> 01:03:59,835 very proud of the moment 1277 01:03:59,936 --> 01:04:01,636 because it went so massively viral. 1278 01:04:01,737 --> 01:04:04,973 It was as if they were friends with somebody 1279 01:04:05,074 --> 01:04:07,309 who was on the cutting edge of protest culture, 1280 01:04:07,410 --> 01:04:08,977 which is what Jen wanted it to be 1281 01:04:09,078 --> 01:04:10,679 and present herself as. 1282 01:04:12,014 --> 01:04:15,750 A leading non-political figure of this hope and change idea 1283 01:04:15,852 --> 01:04:18,320 that America can move towards. 1284 01:04:18,421 --> 01:04:21,423 She takes all of that and uses it for her, 1285 01:04:21,524 --> 01:04:24,359 and in doing so is rightfully called out for it. 1286 01:04:30,967 --> 01:04:33,134 [Vanryckeghem] I was just going on Facebook. 1287 01:04:33,236 --> 01:04:37,038 I looked, and I found Jennifer's post, 1288 01:04:37,139 --> 01:04:43,311 and I remember being confused and disappointed. 1289 01:04:43,412 --> 01:04:46,314 Even reading it now, I'm like, 1290 01:04:47,016 --> 01:04:49,217 "Who wrote this?" 1291 01:04:49,318 --> 01:04:51,486 "I understand many of you have stumbled upon" 1292 01:04:51,587 --> 01:04:54,322 the darker side of media as of late. 1293 01:04:54,423 --> 01:04:57,759 Things have been twisted and used for various reasons. 1294 01:04:58,694 --> 01:04:59,861 I can't control that, 1295 01:04:59,962 --> 01:05:02,330 and I cannot allow that to control me. 1296 01:05:03,666 --> 01:05:06,134 What other people think is none of my business. 1297 01:05:06,235 --> 01:05:07,569 I know what really happened, 1298 01:05:07,670 --> 01:05:10,805 and how Devonte truly feels about that encounter. 1299 01:05:11,908 --> 01:05:14,509 "And that's all that matters to us." 1300 01:05:18,247 --> 01:05:21,650 She dismisses claims that she is basically hijacking 1301 01:05:21,717 --> 01:05:22,951 the Black Lives Matter movement, 1302 01:05:23,052 --> 01:05:25,987 that she is hijacking the Ferguson protest and the energy 1303 01:05:26,088 --> 01:05:29,291 that going into calling attention to systemic racism 1304 01:05:29,392 --> 01:05:30,992 and abuse in America. 1305 01:05:32,495 --> 01:05:36,398 People then, as they start to, in her words, attack her, 1306 01:05:36,499 --> 01:05:40,936 she defends herself by presenting it as their wrong, 1307 01:05:41,037 --> 01:05:42,437 they don't understand. 1308 01:05:42,538 --> 01:05:44,139 These are haters that are coming after me 1309 01:05:44,240 --> 01:05:45,540 because we're lesbian moms 1310 01:05:45,641 --> 01:05:47,943 with our adopted black children. 1311 01:05:48,044 --> 01:05:51,413 She's both, dismissed the claims that are rightful 1312 01:05:51,514 --> 01:05:54,349 and made herself sympathetic by playing the victim. 1313 01:05:56,352 --> 01:05:59,888 [Vanryckeghem] It does really seem like she was just protecting her own agenda, 1314 01:05:59,989 --> 01:06:02,691 and no one or anything else but that. 1315 01:06:02,792 --> 01:06:06,628 It must have been a trigger for her to get so much attention, 1316 01:06:06,729 --> 01:06:09,698 when she knew that she was living a double life, 1317 01:06:09,799 --> 01:06:12,534 and that it couldn't be something that she could maintain 1318 01:06:12,635 --> 01:06:15,036 if people really started peering into their lives 1319 01:06:15,137 --> 01:06:17,205 and wanting to know a lot more. 1320 01:06:17,306 --> 01:06:21,977 So she probably had no other choice 1321 01:06:22,078 --> 01:06:25,313 but to shut everything down and withdraw. 1322 01:06:25,414 --> 01:06:28,984 [Burnett] The virality that she was chasing after ruined the thing. 1323 01:06:29,085 --> 01:06:33,621 It, basically, compromised Jen's ability to control the narrative. 1324 01:06:33,723 --> 01:06:35,557 So, once the narrative escaped her clutches, 1325 01:06:35,658 --> 01:06:37,292 she left and created a new narrative. 1326 01:06:55,244 --> 01:06:58,446 [Bunch] In 2016, I met Jen 1327 01:06:58,547 --> 01:07:01,783 in the highly competitive gaming community. 1328 01:07:03,386 --> 01:07:06,388 We were part of this team of players 1329 01:07:06,489 --> 01:07:08,523 dedicated to a specific game. 1330 01:07:08,624 --> 01:07:14,062 And you're all working to destroy every other team 1331 01:07:14,163 --> 01:07:16,131 and move up the rankings. 1332 01:07:16,232 --> 01:07:19,768 And we were the second-ranked team, 1333 01:07:19,869 --> 01:07:21,603 and this is worldwide. 1334 01:07:24,206 --> 01:07:28,610 Jen was the co-leader of that 50-member team, 1335 01:07:28,711 --> 01:07:33,114 so she's keeping track of scores for 50 players. 1336 01:07:33,182 --> 01:07:37,118 She is checking to see if people are maintaining those scores. 1337 01:07:38,521 --> 01:07:41,456 In the team chat, she kept it lively. 1338 01:07:41,557 --> 01:07:44,793 Anything to, like, keep everyone motivated. 1339 01:07:44,894 --> 01:07:46,861 For her, it was clearly a passion 1340 01:07:46,962 --> 01:07:48,763 to maintain that sense of unity, 1341 01:07:48,864 --> 01:07:50,565 and she did a great job out of it. 1342 01:07:52,334 --> 01:07:54,769 [Johnston] After this picture goes viral, 1343 01:07:54,870 --> 01:07:58,339 we find Jen going to the gaming community, 1344 01:07:58,441 --> 01:08:01,176 which really does provide her a forum, 1345 01:08:01,277 --> 01:08:04,679 where she can again share pictures and posts of her family. 1346 01:08:04,780 --> 01:08:07,749 She can also get a ton of status 1347 01:08:07,850 --> 01:08:09,551 and a ton of affirmation. 1348 01:08:10,553 --> 01:08:12,087 [Bunch] You're spending many hours 1349 01:08:12,188 --> 01:08:14,289 with the team members every day, 1350 01:08:14,390 --> 01:08:17,759 exchanging photos and talking about your careers, 1351 01:08:17,860 --> 01:08:22,263 and so it really does become a family in a sense. 1352 01:08:26,502 --> 01:08:31,239 Jen moved to Washington early summer, in 2017. 1353 01:08:32,274 --> 01:08:35,110 I remember, she shared photos of the house, 1354 01:08:35,211 --> 01:08:38,246 pictures of the kids in the new house with chickens, 1355 01:08:39,048 --> 01:08:41,749 painting the new living room. 1356 01:08:41,851 --> 01:08:44,119 The kids are all happy, she's happy. 1357 01:08:46,689 --> 01:08:49,591 I never saw a sign ever, ever 1358 01:08:49,692 --> 01:08:53,628 that they were anything but great. 1359 01:08:57,833 --> 01:08:59,167 [911 operator speaking] 1360 01:08:59,235 --> 01:09:04,506 [man speaking] 1361 01:09:04,607 --> 01:09:07,341 [man speaking] 1362 01:09:07,409 --> 01:09:09,010 [911 operator speaking] 1363 01:09:09,812 --> 01:09:16,084 [man speaking] 1364 01:09:16,185 --> 01:09:19,420 [man speaking] 1365 01:09:19,522 --> 01:09:21,990 [man speaking] 1366 01:09:22,091 --> 01:09:24,025 [911 operator speaking] 1367 01:09:24,126 --> 01:09:28,997 [man speaking] 1368 01:09:42,111 --> 01:09:45,880 [Beck] Dana DeKalb's father called 911, 1369 01:09:45,981 --> 01:09:49,050 and he told a shocking story 1370 01:09:49,151 --> 01:09:52,153 about a child coming to their house in the middle of the night 1371 01:09:52,254 --> 01:09:54,155 and asking to be hidden in the house. 1372 01:09:54,957 --> 01:09:57,258 [doorbell ringing] 1373 01:09:57,359 --> 01:10:00,662 [Bruce] It was 1:30 in the morning, and I went to the front door, 1374 01:10:00,763 --> 01:10:03,064 and here's this girl standing there, 1375 01:10:03,165 --> 01:10:05,800 and she comes bolting in the house. 1376 01:10:05,901 --> 01:10:07,835 Ran upstairs, and went into the bedroom, 1377 01:10:07,937 --> 01:10:09,837 and started shaking Dana. 1378 01:10:09,939 --> 01:10:13,174 [Dana] She pounced on me frantic and begging, you know. 1379 01:10:13,275 --> 01:10:16,511 "Take me to Seattle. Don't make me go back there. 1380 01:10:16,612 --> 01:10:18,880 They are racist, they are abusive," 1381 01:10:18,981 --> 01:10:20,748 and we're just like going, "Whoa!" 1382 01:10:22,918 --> 01:10:25,353 [Beck] A short while later, they heard the rest of the family, 1383 01:10:25,454 --> 01:10:28,323 Jen and Sarah and the rest of the children, outside calling for Hannah. 1384 01:10:29,425 --> 01:10:31,492 Eventually, they went into the house 1385 01:10:31,594 --> 01:10:34,295 and gave an explanation for Hannah's behavior. 1386 01:10:35,931 --> 01:10:39,567 [Dana] Sarah never spoke. Jennifer did all the talking. 1387 01:10:39,668 --> 01:10:44,038 And she said that, you know, Hannah struggles, she has some issues. 1388 01:10:44,139 --> 01:10:49,043 It's been a rough week, and she's going through all kinds of turmoil. 1389 01:10:49,144 --> 01:10:51,079 And they were drug babies, 1390 01:10:51,180 --> 01:10:52,814 and so the kids struggle. 1391 01:10:55,184 --> 01:10:57,719 I was all prepared to call the cops, 1392 01:10:58,520 --> 01:11:02,090 but she, she sold it well. 1393 01:11:05,928 --> 01:11:09,998 They ended up back at our doorbell at 6:30. 1394 01:11:10,099 --> 01:11:13,434 Hannah handed us a note saying how sorry she was 1395 01:11:13,535 --> 01:11:16,804 that she had told us some things that weren't really true. 1396 01:11:16,905 --> 01:11:18,406 It's just that she had a really bad week, 1397 01:11:18,507 --> 01:11:20,675 and she wanted to apologize for bothering us. 1398 01:11:22,344 --> 01:11:24,712 Before they left, I asked if I could have a word with just Hannah, 1399 01:11:24,813 --> 01:11:27,081 and they said, "No. We do everything as a family." 1400 01:11:40,863 --> 01:11:44,432 [Bunch] Jen was the most fun-loving person 1401 01:11:44,533 --> 01:11:49,837 until you violated one of her rules. 1402 01:11:50,906 --> 01:11:53,441 Oftentimes, these rules weren't spoken rules, 1403 01:11:53,542 --> 01:11:57,245 these were just the way she wanted things to be done. 1404 01:12:00,649 --> 01:12:04,619 [Hart] There was an occasion that I was at the store, 1405 01:12:05,220 --> 01:12:07,855 and we get a call. 1406 01:12:07,956 --> 01:12:10,958 I answered the phone, and there was a woman on the other end, 1407 01:12:11,060 --> 01:12:13,494 and she asked to speak with Sarah Hart. 1408 01:12:14,596 --> 01:12:17,799 So I told her, "One moment." I put her on hold. 1409 01:12:18,600 --> 01:12:20,635 "Sarah," I said, "It's for you." 1410 01:12:20,736 --> 01:12:24,639 And she got a panicked look on her face, 1411 01:12:24,740 --> 01:12:26,774 and she looked at her watch, 1412 01:12:26,875 --> 01:12:29,243 and she went, "Oh, [bleep]." 1413 01:12:30,979 --> 01:12:34,816 And she ran into an office and slammed the door. 1414 01:12:36,418 --> 01:12:40,388 About ten minutes later, she came out of the office, 1415 01:12:40,489 --> 01:12:43,491 and I had jokingly said, you know, "What did you do?" 1416 01:12:45,060 --> 01:12:49,964 And she told me that she did not 1417 01:12:50,766 --> 01:12:53,801 play her part in a game. 1418 01:12:55,771 --> 01:13:00,441 She said that Jen was very upset with her, 1419 01:13:00,542 --> 01:13:02,210 to the point that Jen had said 1420 01:13:02,311 --> 01:13:04,212 if Sarah wasn't going to support her, 1421 01:13:04,313 --> 01:13:05,813 she might as well just kill herself. 1422 01:13:07,282 --> 01:13:10,818 Because it was all she had to look forward to, was this game. 1423 01:13:14,156 --> 01:13:18,693 Sarah was very worried about Jen, 1424 01:13:18,794 --> 01:13:22,797 because Jen was depressed and withdrawn. 1425 01:13:22,898 --> 01:13:26,868 Sarah would constantly have to be, you know, calming her down. 1426 01:13:28,203 --> 01:13:32,540 I think Sarah was the buffer between the kids and Jen, 1427 01:13:33,475 --> 01:13:35,943 like the battered spouse would, you know. 1428 01:13:39,181 --> 01:13:43,551 In this family, there was a tremendous amount of stress 1429 01:13:43,652 --> 01:13:44,986 going on at home. 1430 01:13:46,622 --> 01:13:48,856 I don't know what that stress was, 1431 01:13:48,957 --> 01:13:51,793 but we do know that things were getting worse. 1432 01:13:52,995 --> 01:13:56,631 The only evidence we have are these kids, 1433 01:13:56,732 --> 01:13:59,167 who are desperately trying to get help. 1434 01:14:13,449 --> 01:14:16,651 So, the very first night was on Thursday night. 1435 01:14:16,752 --> 01:14:19,854 The next morning, he was here again at 9:00 am, asking, 1436 01:14:19,955 --> 01:14:21,556 "Do you have any bread?" 1437 01:14:22,591 --> 01:14:26,027 So I said, "No. But I have those tortillas." 1438 01:14:26,128 --> 01:14:28,563 That's when he started saying could we put it by the fence. 1439 01:14:30,232 --> 01:14:31,933 [Beck] While speaking with Dana and Bruce, 1440 01:14:32,034 --> 01:14:35,803 they mentioned that Devonte had provided them a list of food items, 1441 01:14:35,904 --> 01:14:39,740 and had mentioned that his parents were withholding food from them. 1442 01:14:39,842 --> 01:14:42,610 And he was asking Dana and Bruce to get food, 1443 01:14:42,711 --> 01:14:44,712 so that he could share it with his brothers and sisters. 1444 01:14:47,616 --> 01:14:50,284 [Dana] The first night, I didn't think anything. 1445 01:14:50,385 --> 01:14:52,119 But then, when he came back Friday night, 1446 01:14:52,221 --> 01:14:55,189 it's like, "Wait a minute. I just gave you, like, thirty tortillas." 1447 01:14:55,290 --> 01:14:57,925 One time, he asked us for six jars of peanut butter. 1448 01:14:58,026 --> 01:15:00,194 - [Bruce] Yeah, peanut butter. - [Dena] When he asked for peanut butter, 1449 01:15:00,295 --> 01:15:04,031 I was like, "This is, like, staples. 1450 01:15:04,132 --> 01:15:06,734 They're not getting enough to eat." 1451 01:15:06,835 --> 01:15:10,137 Every time he came, he did divulge more information 1452 01:15:10,239 --> 01:15:12,406 as he became more comfortable. 1453 01:15:12,508 --> 01:15:15,576 And that's when we learned that they had been abusing them, 1454 01:15:15,677 --> 01:15:18,513 and they were withholding food for days at a time. 1455 01:15:18,614 --> 01:15:21,148 And he said Sarah used to not go along with it, 1456 01:15:21,250 --> 01:15:22,683 but she is now. 1457 01:15:24,686 --> 01:15:27,221 At the exact moment that Devonte was going to spend 1458 01:15:27,322 --> 01:15:31,192 the next eight, nine days asking repeatedly for food, 1459 01:15:31,293 --> 01:15:34,395 she's on Facebook celebrating. 1460 01:15:34,496 --> 01:15:38,299 "I am a better human in every possible way for knowing these children. 1461 01:15:38,400 --> 01:15:40,535 They have been my greatest teachers. 1462 01:15:40,602 --> 01:15:42,303 I couldn't be more in awe of all the people 1463 01:15:42,404 --> 01:15:45,373 that chose to celebrate this life with us. 1464 01:15:45,474 --> 01:15:47,141 Thousands of people that have shared a hug, 1465 01:15:47,242 --> 01:15:50,378 a dance, a story, a laugh, a meal, a cry, a word of encouragement, 1466 01:15:50,479 --> 01:15:51,913 a smile, a song, 1467 01:15:53,282 --> 01:15:57,485 "thank your for exemplifying the true meaning of family." 1468 01:15:57,586 --> 01:15:59,387 She's arranging a collage of their love 1469 01:15:59,488 --> 01:16:01,255 while denying them food, actively, 1470 01:16:01,356 --> 01:16:03,558 to the point that they are begging strangers for food. 1471 01:16:13,969 --> 01:16:17,405 [Dana] That Thursday is when he had told us 1472 01:16:17,472 --> 01:16:20,541 that everything Hannah told you was true. 1473 01:16:20,642 --> 01:16:23,778 And I said, "Okay. So, why did she run away that night?" 1474 01:16:23,879 --> 01:16:26,180 And he said, "'Cause my mom was abusing her." 1475 01:16:27,816 --> 01:16:32,019 I just felt like, "Okay, now I have enough to get somebody's attention." 1476 01:16:46,635 --> 01:16:48,035 [reporter] Worried for the children, 1477 01:16:48,136 --> 01:16:50,104 the DeKalbs called state CPS officials, 1478 01:16:50,205 --> 01:16:52,406 who visited the home again on Friday, 1479 01:16:52,507 --> 01:16:54,775 but, apparently, no one answered the door. 1480 01:16:54,876 --> 01:16:58,245 The next morning, when we saw that the vehicle was gone, 1481 01:16:58,347 --> 01:17:02,149 and then, Sunday morning, when it still wasn't there, 1482 01:17:02,250 --> 01:17:04,452 we figured there was something. 1483 01:17:04,553 --> 01:17:06,487 [reporter] Then, on Monday, the DeKalbs heard about 1484 01:17:06,588 --> 01:17:09,223 the horrific crash in California. 1485 01:17:11,326 --> 01:17:14,295 [Allman] I think the moms were on a mission. 1486 01:17:14,396 --> 01:17:18,265 And whether or not their mission originally was Mendocino County, 1487 01:17:18,367 --> 01:17:19,400 I don't know the answer to that. 1488 01:17:21,570 --> 01:17:25,439 But, in my heart, I believe their mission was death. 1489 01:17:28,276 --> 01:17:30,778 This was a one-way journey as soon as they left. 1490 01:17:42,724 --> 01:17:45,393 New details tonight. Human remains have been found 1491 01:17:45,494 --> 01:17:47,194 near a cliff in Mendocino County, 1492 01:17:47,295 --> 01:17:49,830 the site of a horrible family tragedy. 1493 01:17:54,770 --> 01:17:57,638 [Bartley] May 9th, I come to work. 1494 01:17:57,739 --> 01:18:01,509 There's buzz about the fact that there was, uh, some 1495 01:18:02,511 --> 01:18:04,445 remains recovered on the beach. 1496 01:18:06,048 --> 01:18:08,249 A pair of blue jeans, 1497 01:18:08,350 --> 01:18:10,918 and a hiking boot style shoe, 1498 01:18:11,019 --> 01:18:13,287 and then, inside, there was a sock. 1499 01:18:13,388 --> 01:18:16,123 [reporter] Hannah Hart and her 15-year-old brother Devonte 1500 01:18:16,224 --> 01:18:19,427 are still listed as missing after that crash. 1501 01:18:19,528 --> 01:18:21,062 I was told at the coroner's office 1502 01:18:21,163 --> 01:18:25,700 that they could see some bones within the sock. 1503 01:18:25,801 --> 01:18:29,303 And upon really looking at the jeans, 1504 01:18:30,372 --> 01:18:32,106 we located the letter "H" 1505 01:18:33,108 --> 01:18:36,744 written in ink on the label. 1506 01:18:36,845 --> 01:18:40,781 So we were pretty confident that we had recovered something of Hannah. 1507 01:18:52,294 --> 01:18:56,097 As the days rolled on, we realized that 1508 01:18:56,198 --> 01:18:59,200 the ocean had... had claimed Devonte, 1509 01:19:01,737 --> 01:19:04,805 and that we weren't going to get him back. 1510 01:19:04,906 --> 01:19:08,809 And there wasn't going to be any amount of searchin' 1511 01:19:08,910 --> 01:19:10,878 that we could do to change that. 1512 01:19:16,918 --> 01:19:20,287 [Allman] In California, in the vast majority of counties, 1513 01:19:20,388 --> 01:19:23,324 the Sheriff is also the coroner. 1514 01:19:23,425 --> 01:19:26,260 Our responsibilities are very legal, 1515 01:19:26,361 --> 01:19:28,429 in black and white, 1516 01:19:28,530 --> 01:19:31,966 to determine the cause of death and the manner of death. 1517 01:19:32,067 --> 01:19:36,237 The cause of death could be asphyxiation, drowning, 1518 01:19:36,338 --> 01:19:38,139 and the manner of death is going to be 1519 01:19:38,240 --> 01:19:41,575 what actually caused that death. 1520 01:19:41,676 --> 01:19:44,545 Suicide, homicide, accidental, natural. 1521 01:19:45,714 --> 01:19:48,249 Certainly, I could have determined 1522 01:19:48,350 --> 01:19:50,151 that this was a driving accident. 1523 01:19:50,252 --> 01:19:52,319 And we could have filed the death certificates, 1524 01:19:52,420 --> 01:19:53,287 and that would've been it. 1525 01:19:54,289 --> 01:19:56,357 But I didn't want to do that. 1526 01:19:56,458 --> 01:19:58,659 I wanted the facts to be known. 1527 01:19:58,760 --> 01:20:03,430 I didn't want history to judge this as an accident if it wasn't, 1528 01:20:03,532 --> 01:20:06,500 and I didn't want history to judge this as a crime if it wasn't. 1529 01:20:07,669 --> 01:20:11,372 So I decided to have the coroner's inquest. 1530 01:20:12,908 --> 01:20:15,276 - [man 1] We're set. - [man 2] Thank you. 1531 01:20:15,377 --> 01:20:17,378 Good morning. We are on the record. 1532 01:20:20,282 --> 01:20:23,350 [Guichard] This matter is a formal coroner's inquest, 1533 01:20:23,451 --> 01:20:26,453 and it is an inquiry into the death 1534 01:20:26,555 --> 01:20:28,889 and deaths of eight individuals. 1535 01:20:32,260 --> 01:20:36,463 It's... like a criminal jury, you have citizen jurors 1536 01:20:36,565 --> 01:20:38,566 that listen to all the evidence, 1537 01:20:38,667 --> 01:20:43,771 and they make a determination about the manner of death. 1538 01:20:43,872 --> 01:20:45,606 As I've indicated, 1539 01:20:45,707 --> 01:20:49,677 a coroner's inquest is designed to put out into the open 1540 01:20:49,778 --> 01:20:52,446 the circumstance of a death or deaths. 1541 01:20:53,949 --> 01:20:54,982 [Allman] If the jury comes back 1542 01:20:55,083 --> 01:20:57,184 that it's a traffic accident, no worries. 1543 01:20:57,919 --> 01:21:00,287 All I wanted was the truth. 1544 01:21:00,388 --> 01:21:03,724 And if the law says that a jury can determine truth, 1545 01:21:04,426 --> 01:21:05,759 I'll hang my head on that. 1546 01:21:07,596 --> 01:21:13,334 April 3rd, of 2019, a year and a week after the incident, 1547 01:21:14,269 --> 01:21:17,171 the initial presentation started. 1548 01:21:17,272 --> 01:21:21,809 By mid-afternoon on the 4th, final arguments were given. 1549 01:21:22,811 --> 01:21:26,680 The jury went out, and they came back 1550 01:21:26,781 --> 01:21:29,183 with a verdict that wasn't a surprise to me. 1551 01:21:29,284 --> 01:21:36,156 And with respect to Abigail Hart, Markis Hart, 1552 01:21:36,258 --> 01:21:39,393 Jeremiah Hart, Sierra Hart, 1553 01:21:39,494 --> 01:21:43,330 Hannah Hart, Devonte Hart, 1554 01:21:43,431 --> 01:21:47,501 the finding is, at the hands of another other than by accident. 1555 01:21:50,805 --> 01:21:54,475 Sarah Hart, the finding is, suicide. 1556 01:21:54,576 --> 01:21:58,279 Jennifer Hart, the finding is, suicide. 1557 01:22:01,850 --> 01:22:05,519 [Allman] They list the cause of death for six of them as homicide, 1558 01:22:06,588 --> 01:22:08,222 and two of them, suicide. 1559 01:22:08,757 --> 01:22:11,825 And I... 1560 01:22:11,927 --> 01:22:15,529 In my heart, I believe that's the absolute truth. 1561 01:22:25,473 --> 01:22:27,541 The question that bothered me most, 1562 01:22:28,977 --> 01:22:31,478 how did we allow this to happen? 1563 01:22:31,579 --> 01:22:33,047 And I'm talking about "we" as society. 1564 01:22:35,350 --> 01:22:38,719 You have a parent that went above and beyond 1565 01:22:38,820 --> 01:22:41,422 what was reasonable in disciplining a child, 1566 01:22:41,523 --> 01:22:43,991 and you even charge them. 1567 01:22:44,092 --> 01:22:46,994 And you get to the end of every one of these reports, 1568 01:22:47,095 --> 01:22:50,130 and they say the same thing, "insufficient evidence." 1569 01:22:50,231 --> 01:22:52,032 What evidence did you need? 1570 01:22:52,133 --> 01:22:54,234 What did you need to see 1571 01:22:54,336 --> 01:22:58,172 to know that these kids needed some protection? 1572 01:22:59,574 --> 01:23:02,042 [Williams] This case is not unique. 1573 01:23:02,143 --> 01:23:05,646 I'm sure that there are hundreds of cases around this country 1574 01:23:05,747 --> 01:23:08,182 that are being handled in the same manner. 1575 01:23:08,283 --> 01:23:10,684 And what I would like to see 1576 01:23:10,752 --> 01:23:13,654 is more accountability 1577 01:23:13,755 --> 01:23:16,156 to ensure that these children are placed 1578 01:23:16,257 --> 01:23:20,928 in a safe, nurturing, home environment. 1579 01:23:24,766 --> 01:23:29,770 [Allman] We have a national database that reports mental illness, 1580 01:23:29,871 --> 01:23:33,040 we have a national database for criminal histories, 1581 01:23:33,141 --> 01:23:36,043 we also have a national database for gun registration, 1582 01:23:36,144 --> 01:23:39,546 we do not have a national database for child abuse allegations. 1583 01:23:41,049 --> 01:23:43,984 I'm not going to say that if we had a national database, 1584 01:23:44,085 --> 01:23:45,819 that the Hart family would still be alive. 1585 01:23:45,920 --> 01:23:49,023 But, certainly, there would have been more of an investigation 1586 01:23:49,124 --> 01:23:52,326 to find out if the adoptions had been appropriate, 1587 01:23:52,427 --> 01:23:54,962 or if CPS should be a little bit more involved than what they are. 1588 01:23:59,901 --> 01:24:02,770 [Jones] It honestly was just tragic all the way around, 1589 01:24:02,871 --> 01:24:05,105 from the beginning to the end. 1590 01:24:05,206 --> 01:24:08,275 And it's just unimaginable that somebody 1591 01:24:08,376 --> 01:24:10,544 in those short years on the planet, 1592 01:24:10,645 --> 01:24:12,346 that their lives would just be filled 1593 01:24:12,447 --> 01:24:14,114 with so much chaos and tragedy. 1594 01:24:16,051 --> 01:24:19,286 [Vanryckeghem] My hope if there's even one person 1595 01:24:19,387 --> 01:24:22,556 who sees a child in any sort of 1596 01:24:22,657 --> 01:24:24,958 potentially compromising position... 1597 01:24:25,060 --> 01:24:26,527 [sniffles] 1598 01:24:27,562 --> 01:24:29,696 Will remember what happened to the Hart kids 1599 01:24:29,798 --> 01:24:31,131 and not overlook it. 1600 01:24:36,604 --> 01:24:39,740 [Burnett] Most people would never have heard of the Hart children 1601 01:24:39,841 --> 01:24:41,909 if it didn't have the wild, dramatic ending 1602 01:24:42,010 --> 01:24:44,945 of them driving off the edge of America and crashing into the Pacific. 1603 01:24:47,215 --> 01:24:49,917 Right now, there are kids being abused in situations like this 1604 01:24:50,018 --> 01:24:51,085 that we may never hear about, 1605 01:24:51,186 --> 01:24:53,387 because no one will take an interest in their story. 1606 01:24:55,857 --> 01:24:57,724 And not just in a passing way, 1607 01:24:57,826 --> 01:24:59,259 but actually engage with this person. 1608 01:24:59,360 --> 01:25:00,861 Let me see them as a human being, 1609 01:25:00,962 --> 01:25:02,796 a fully complex person in front of me, 1610 01:25:02,897 --> 01:25:05,132 as opposed to a quickly understood symbol, 1611 01:25:05,233 --> 01:25:07,000 a black boy with "free hugs" on his chest. 123142

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