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He is a famous photographer,
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the only Negro cameramanon LIFE magazine.
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He's a composer, an author,and a film director.
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Among his friendsin the world of liberal arts,
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he's a success in his own right,accepted on that basis.
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But he is still a Negro livingin America.
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Not every White Americanhas heard
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of the famous Gordon Parks.
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When I walked
into LIFE magazine, that uh,
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18 years ago...
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You see, a Negro...Put it like this.
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A Negro builds upa double defense.
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When you are a kid,you have to prepare
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to be able to do much morethan a White boy,
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so that if the time comes
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where your talentis pitted against a White man,
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you will get the nod becausethey can't afford to lose you.
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The term,
"living in a White man's world"
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is one
I don't particularly like.
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A lot of Negroes use it,
a lot of Whites use it.
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But I consider this my world.
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♪ This worldIs going up in flames ♪
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♪ And nobodyWanna take the blame ♪
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- Hands up! Don't shoot!
- Hands up! Don't shoot!
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♪ Don't tell meHow to live my life ♪
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♪ When youNever felt the pain ♪
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♪ Oh, oh, oh ♪
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♪ Ooh!They don't hear me cry ♪
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♪ Ooh!Oh, it's killing me ♪
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♪ A better world, oh baby! ♪
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♪ Gotta make it babyGotta make it right ♪
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♪ Baby! Oh! ♪
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Let's go, let's go,
let's go, let's go, let's go.
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I only can imagineif Gordon Parks was alive now.
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What he would be able to do.
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You know, to talkabout these serious issues.
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Always something
going on around here.
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There you go, shorty.
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I had to make a lotof mistakes, you know,
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to get to where I am now.
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I was hustling,and I was in the streets.
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I lost like my first friend
at like 16, 17,
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due to gun violence, and that
kind of, like, changed my world.
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I wanted to really pursue art.
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So I would goto Barnes & Noble,
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and just, like, have all these
photography books out.
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And I just would, like,
sit and look at Gordon's work,
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if it was himshooting his stuff in Harlem.
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The story, the gang...
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that's still goingon to this day.
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I was like, "So I canshoot all these things too.
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I'ma get me a camera."
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So it started off as
just a personal journey...
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...but as I got deepinto my career,
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that's when I reallystarted realizing
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how powerful an image can be.
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'Cause my career
is literally built on
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the broken back of Freddie Gray.
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The 25-year-oldfalls into a coma
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at shock traumaand dies seven days later.
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Freddie! Freddie! Freddie!
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I knew how my city was,
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and the energy that was, like,kinda vibrating.
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So I just took to the streets.
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No justice,
no peace! No racist police!
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When everythingreally hit the fan
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is when we were downin Camden Yards,
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and all the police were worriedabout the fact
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that we had an Orioles game.
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Some fans at the bars wereactually calling us the N-word,
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they were calling us monkeys.
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And that's what actuallystarted everything.
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And this guy runs past,and he throws something,
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and I just snapped the picture.I don't think nothing of it.
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I rememberjust uploading the image
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while all of this was going on,saying, "We're sick and tired."
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And around
that time, I get like
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a blocked call come through,
and he is like,
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"This is Olivier
from TIME magazine.
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I wanted to talk to Devin Allen
about his work in Baltimore.
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What publication are you with?"
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I'm like,
"I'm not with no publication."
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And I told them my story,and we did a blog from it.
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I go to sleep. I wake up,
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and I just see all these, like,tweets. And it says,
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"Amateur photographer
from West Baltimore
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snags the cover
of TIME magazine."
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And I just burst out in tears,
and I call my mother,
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and she burst out in tears,
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and my whole family
is just crying.
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For the first time, I understoodwhat Gordon was talking about,
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that the camerais a real weapon,
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and I realized how powerful
I am with a camera in my hand.
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I might have turned eventually
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to the gun or the knifeas a weapon to survive,
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but by thenI had chosen the camera.
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Photography was the way in whichI could express my own feelings
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about racism in America,
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about the downtrodden.
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And somehow or another, I might
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transcend my own experience.
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I live off of my emotions,perhaps, you know.
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And so I hadturned those emotions
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into some mercenary thing,by which I could survive.
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What distinguishes Gordon Parks
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from a lot of other artistsis that he had
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a quintessentially authenticBlack experience.
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I mean, he wasthe child of Black people
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who had fled enslavement.
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Growing up in Kansas,
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to be proximate to lynchingand racial terrorism,
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to understand the weight
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that people of colorfelt in these spaces
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where you had
to basically be two people.
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One person around White people
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that would keep you safe,
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and another person
with your family.
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I think just gave him an insight
to the Black narrative.
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Boy, they sure are having
a good ol' time
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over there at that crap game.
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Kansas itself offered youfreedom on one hand,
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and on the other hand, it wastrying to take it away from you.
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Tuck! Tuck! Kirky's coming!
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Run, Tuck, run!
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Stop damn it, I'll shoot!
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Four or fiveof my closest friends
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had died through violence.
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About four peoplewere shot to death.
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My mother wanted meout of there.
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She knew it was adangerous place for me to live.
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Gordon lived a wandering lifeas a young person.
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He gets a job as a waiter
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on the dining car
of the Northern Pacific.
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I had great expectations,you know.
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I thought I was goingto conquer a new world.
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He had to go through getting
kicked off of the trains.
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He had to go through
hanging out with the bums.
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He had to go through all these
different forms of life,
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but when you're travelingaround the world
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and you're in a place whereyou've never been before,
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the first thing
that you have to do is observe.
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And the more you observe,
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the more you understand
what's going on around you.
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He would ride the trainsand pick up the magazines,
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and look at imagery and beinformed behind that.
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Having an opportunity to go todifferent cities,
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under some
really harsh conditions,
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just to survive
and being amongst the filth
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and the drunkenness
and addiction.
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Luckily for him,he was able to get that camera.
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He's teachinghimself photography
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by reading, uh,training manuals.
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His studiowas the kitchen of his home,
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and his lights
were made from tin cans.
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That's how Gordon Parksstarted out, you know,
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making pictures and thenselling them to the newspaper.
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When Black photographers began
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capturing African American life,
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it created a new relationship
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for Black people
to their own identity.
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When Gordon Parks came along,he found value and interest
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and art in the lives
of ordinary people.
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At a time and in a society
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where Black peoplewere told far too often
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that we're criminals,
that we're ugly,
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that we're less worthy
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to have the spotlight on us
for any reason,
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Gordon put a lensand a light on us for ourselves.
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And allowed us to see
the elegance of the lives
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that we live and the places
where we are.
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In January 1942,Parks receives word
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that he's beenawarded a fellowship
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to work for a year at
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the Farm Security Administration
in Washington.
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The purpose of the FSAwas to resettle American farmers
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who had lost their landduring the Dust Bowl.
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It set up a unitof photographers and filmmakers
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who could help to documentwhat they were doing.
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It was run by a man bythe name of Roy Stryker.
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Many of thephotographers who shot for
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the Farm Security Administration
become heroes for Gordon Parks,
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and he's really interested in
the process and their approach.
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And so his idea is,"Let me go out there,
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and let mementor under Roy Stryker."
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He was the one who taught me
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that when you are doing a story,
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it's not for youto accept the people,
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but the people to accept you.
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Because you are going
into their presence,
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asking them to help you.
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Roy Stryker actuallyintroduces Gordon Parks
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to the cleaning woman,
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who cleans the offices inthe Agriculture Department.
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A woman bythe name of Ella Watson.
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He photographs her at work,
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sweeping floors,cleaning the offices.
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In one office,there's an American flag
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hanging on the wall.
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Here is a woman
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who in some waysis the backbone of America...
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yet she is standing
in front of a flag,
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in front of an America
that didn't believe in her.
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Gordon Parksis one of my heroes.
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Ella Watson.
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This photograph, to me,talks about
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how our ancestors,
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from 1619,
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when that first slave ship hit
Jamestown, Virginia.
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We have fought and died
for this country.
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We have loved this country, but
the love has not been returned.
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That's what
this photograph says to me.
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Then I thought of Grant Woodand American Gothic.
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I said,"Take this broom in one hand,
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take this mop in the other,
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and stand before thatAmerican flag."
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I blew it up the next morning,
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put it on Stryker's desk,and he nearly fainted.
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He said, "Oh my God, you'regoing to get us all fired."
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She's standing in frontof the American flag...
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in a society, a nation,
and a government
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that doesn't recognize her
as a full human being.
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I made a very innocent,bold, outrageous statement.
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You know, it reminds me
of the Malcolm X quote,
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"The most hated,the most mistreated,
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and the most abused personin America is the Black woman."
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There it is right there,written on her face.
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Parks continuesto photograph Ella Watson.
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He worked with herfor a period of weeks.
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He photographs her at church,he photographs her neighborhood.
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There is one amazing photograph
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that he makesof Ella Watson at home.
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The photograph is dividedright down the middle,
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and you see Ella Watsonon the left side,
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helping to feedone of the young kids.
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On the right side of the picturethere is a mirror,
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and her adopted daughter isreflected in the mirror.
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You can see, also a photograph,
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it's a photographof Ella Watson's parents.
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So you're actually seeing fourgenerations of this family,
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all in one photograph
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that's composed in a verysophisticated way.
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That'sthe turning point for him.
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It's there,through this project,
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that he understandshow important it is
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to get to know his subject.
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To really try and depict
the humanity
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of the subjects
that he is photographing.
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This is his way
of holding on to me,
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and I don't spend
enough time with him.
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He says, "I got you now,
can't go nowhere."
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- "What do you mean?"
- Yeah,
what you been doing?
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Leave me out here all by myself.
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Look this way,
Mr. Smiley.
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When I readGordon's autobiography,
A Choice of Weapons,
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I mean, everythingthat he went through
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to define himselfon his own terms
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and to say with the camera,
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"This is how I am goingto make my mark and change
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all the things that I don't likeabout America, right."
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It stays with mebecause I grew up
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living in a dilapidated housenext to the railroad
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in an industrial small town,
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watching everyone kind ofdisappear and the city shrink
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and have all our basichuman rights stripped from us.
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I found the abilityto cope and move forwardthrough art.
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Right, it started out beingdrawings and paintings
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and then eventually movinginto photography.
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Those photographs
are what enabled me
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to save my own life.
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In 2016, I was commissioned
by ELLE magazine
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and Hearst Corporation
to produce a photo essay
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about the Flint water crisis.
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It's not safeto drink the waterin Flint, Michigan.
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Flint disconnectedits water supply through Detroit
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and began drawing waterfrom the Flint River instead.
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Highly corrosiveriver water flowed throughthe city's lead pipes,
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leaching lead intothe water supply.
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That's howShea Cobb and I met
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and how I've builtthis very robust friendship.
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It was for several monthsthat I was photographing Shea
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and hereight-year-old daughter, Zion.
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And Shea was facedwith having to decide
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to protecther daughter's health,
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and the issue with lead is,
in an eight-year-old child,
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it's going to
leach into their brain.
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It couldn't have beenmore than a week
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that I was photographingShea in Flint.
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She said her fathersent her something.
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And it's a picture ofher at the age of 12,
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taking her first sip of waterfrom a freshwater spring
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on the land whereher father lives in Mississippi,
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with a message that said,
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"This water won't kill you.
Come home."
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And so she makes thedecision to leave her mother
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and make the reverse migrationback to the South,
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where her father lives,
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on land that his familyhas always owned.
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Oh wow!
He's gotten so much bigger.
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This is the one that
I was seeing that was a baby?
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When I started doing
karate moves, like to practice,
he thinks he can do it,
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so he holds onto stuff
and then fell flat on his butt.
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So I returned to Mississippi
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to continue a body of work
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that I'm committed towith Shea Cobb,
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her daughter Zion,who's now 12,
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and Shea's father,Mr. Doug Smiley.
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Thank you, Lord, for this food
and all of our many blessings.
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- Thank you.
- Amen.
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And so it wasa tumultuous timeto enter into Shea's life,
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and she didn'thave to trust me,
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but I thinkit goes back to Gordon.
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You need to be present
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and talk to people
for as long as it takes.
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I get to know the person that isthe main subject of the work,
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and I learn to empathize...
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and also allow their feelingsto guide me through
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the landscape that they inhabit.
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This was, you know,a real lesson
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about not only empathizing
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but listening and taking
the instructions
and allowing the images
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to be authored by someone else.
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Like,that's a real collaboration.
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And I also knewto take those cues
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because I had been
closely looking at Ralph Ellison
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and Gordon Parks's collaboration
in the late '40s.
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Ralph Ellison wrote
Invisible Man.
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I did a story on the needof psychiatric treatmentin Harlem.
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Ellison actually
writes a manifesto
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for Gordon Parks
titled the "Pictorial Problem."
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He wantsthe photographs to function
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as both document and symbol.
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And this phrase becomes
a kind of guiding principle
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for Gordon Parks's
entire career.
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This idea that photographscan transcend what isjust being depicted.
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Ellison details a listof certain kinds of images
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that he would like
Parks to make.
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Images that psychologicallyimpact the viewer.
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The feeling of a place
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and the feeling of being robbedand dehumanized...
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in an undulating poetic
visual way.
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Later in 1952,Parks approaches Ralph Ellison.
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Ellison had just published
Invisible Man,
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and he says, "Let's createanother collaboration
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to celebrate the publication."
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They go out onthe streets once againand they create photographs
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that represent nearlyevery single scene in the book.
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This picture couldhave been taken during slavery.
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We're all tryna watch out
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for the motherfuckin'
slave catchers.
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And my brother here
ran off the plantation.
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And he's running for his life.
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Parks takes the portfolio
of images that he shot
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for his collaboration
with Ralph Ellison in 1948
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to LIFE magazine,
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to pitch them a storyabout a Harlem gang leader.
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LIFE magazinewas the Bible.
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People read the newspapers,listened to the radio.
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But for many people,
it really was LIFE magazine
that helped them understand
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what was going on in America.
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I met the picture editor,
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who offered methe great sum of 500 dollars
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to do the Harlem gang story.
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When I walked out of there,I was frightened.
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How do you walk in and ask
the gang leader to let me
photograph your life
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when he's hiding
from the police?
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I used the broad approach
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when I first went upto the police precinct
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and asked one of the detectivesif they knew such a gang leader.
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And they said,
"Yeah, we know plenty of them,
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but none of them gonna
let you photograph them."
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While I was in the precinct,a young man walked in,
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and he literally cursedthe desk sergeant outabout something.
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And so I saidto my detective friend,"Who is that guy?"
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He said, "That isthe most notorious gang leaderin all of Harlem."
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His name was Red Jackson.
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I told himI was from LIFE magazine.
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I want to do a story on him,very bluntly, you know.
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That's the way I gotinto that story.
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I didn't take picturesin the beginning.
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I just sort of sat with themon the stoop in Harlem
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in the hot summer daysand listened to their talk.
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So one day he just said,
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"When are you goingto use your camera?"
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I said, "Oh, you know,
anytime something happens."
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This is like what he learned
from the Farm Security
Administration project
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he does with Ella Watson.
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He knows that he has to getto know somebody really well
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and spend time with them.
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Red was a little apprehensive,
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but they built
this great bond with each other,
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and Gordon recognized
his leadership ability,
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and they developeda really unique relationship.
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I stayed with his gangabout three months.
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He photographed Redin his everyday life.
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Being with his motherin the kitchen cooking,
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washing the dishes,
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sitting with his brother while
his brother was reading.
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His goal wasto create a story
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from an insider point of view.
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He added levels of complexity
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and levels of understanding,
that you might not have gotten
in other photography.
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No one's a gangster
24 hours a day.
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Everyone who is a gangster
has a family.
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He also photographs himout on the streets...
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with members of his gang.
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He photographsfights and violence.
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So it's a really interesting
look at the life of a young,
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you know, gang leader.
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Two boys were killedwhile I was with him.
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There's one picture inthe LIFE story of Herbielying in his coffin.
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He'd been stabbed in the neckand parts of his head.
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And Red picked Herbie's head upand felt the wounds,
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and said, "We're goingto do the same thing to them."
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I think that Gordon sawhimself in Red Jackson.
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Because if Gordon didn't pick
up the camera,
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he could have
easily been Red Jackson.
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He just saw a young manthat had a lot of potential.
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He was a leader.He saw he didn't have a father.
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At the same time,trying to show him in a light
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that will illuminate someof the problemsthat existed in Harlem
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in regards to povertyand gang warfare and injustice.
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How y'all feeling today?
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I like that outfit there,
young man.
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Can I borrow that jacket? Wow,
I like that haircut too, troop.
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Who hooked you up?
All right, here we go.
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I'm gonna say showtime,
and let's do it.
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You guys are ready?
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'Cause I think you guys are
gonna be famous.
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All right, here we go. Ready?
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- All right, look at me.
I think you guys got it.
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Gordon spoke aboutthe power of photographyand imagery
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and how you could use thecamera as a weapon.
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It's throughthe photography that I wantto really express myself.
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That gave me a voice'cause prior to that I was lost.
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I fell victim to the streets,but once I picked up the camera,
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it became my compass.
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I have a tool that I can use,
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not only to document
the community
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but to save lives
at the same time.
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Gordon spokeabout the 35 millimeter
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and how it could bea more effective weapon.
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And that really resonatedwith me
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because I grew upin a gun culture,
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you know with thenine millimeters.
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It was the empathy that he had
for his subjects
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that I thought was
really powerful.
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00:26:25,583 --> 00:26:28,375
You had Red Jackson,his difficult life coming up.
448
00:26:29,916 --> 00:26:31,958
Gordon just wanted
to be like a mentor and a guide.
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I spent 20 years inthe Department of Corrections.
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When the opportunity cameto work on Rikers Island,
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I accepted itas my new assignment.
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Crack is causing an increase inmurder and other violent crime.
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This is right aroundthe same time
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that the crack epidemic hit.
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So now I'm in this space,
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and I'm seeingthe impact of drugs
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and the lack ofrehabilitation.
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I'm taking my camerato the job every day.
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I'm documentingthe world inside.
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I'm witnessingbrutality and hatred.
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I felt it was my responsibilityto talk to young people
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about what was going on
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because a lot of young menwere dying
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at the hands of other young men.
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And I was very troubled by
what I was seeing.
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So I would place myself
in different positions
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where young people would be at,
and I would approach them.
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If I saw a group, I would lookat the leader and say,
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"You know, with all due respect,I'm a photographer,
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when I look at you,I see greatness.
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If you don't mind, I'd like totake a photograph
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of you and your crew."
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And then I would startposing them.
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And thenthey would create poses.
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and the poses gave it life.
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Once the film rollwas completed, I would putthe film in the shop,
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I would come back in an hour,and I would go back to thelocation,
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I would give out prints.
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It let them know thatthey weren't invisible.
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As kids, we couldjust tear each other down.
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I use the camerato build people up
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and let people feel special.
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A lot of themwere really receptive
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to hearing what I was saying'cause I'm speaking in realtime.
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Just a few hours ago,
I was on Rikers Island,
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and I witnessed, you know,
people getting stabbed
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and individuals that thought
that they can handle it,
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and they couldn't.
And they would listen.
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So I was trying to
encourage them to be better.
You know, I didn't want to see
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no moreof these young men incarcerated.
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I owe a lot of
where I'm at right now to Gordon
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because we didn't have a lotof Black photographersto mirror,
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you know, when I was coming up.Gordon was that pathfinder.
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LIFE magazineis the headquarters
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for photographer Gordon Parks
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on the staff of the popular
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pictorial news magazinesince 1949.
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And a man who standsat the top of his profession.
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Because of the success of
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"Harlem Gang Leader",Parks was hired onto the staff
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as the first African Americanphotographer at LIFE,
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which was a really big deal.
503
00:29:12,833 --> 00:29:17,166
This was entry into the mediathat was seen internationally.
504
00:29:17,250 --> 00:29:19,833
Parks's workis amongst the finestin a magazine,
505
00:29:19,916 --> 00:29:21,833
noted forphotographic excellence.
506
00:29:21,916 --> 00:29:25,166
By the mid-1950s,Parks had already become,
507
00:29:25,250 --> 00:29:28,500
for want of a better word,
very established.
508
00:29:28,583 --> 00:29:32,916
He really does havethat internally solid
509
00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:35,375
perseverance kind of
quality to him.
510
00:29:37,541 --> 00:29:39,708
I've tried to use the camera
511
00:29:39,791 --> 00:29:41,750
to sort ofcorrect the things that
512
00:29:41,833 --> 00:29:45,541
I experienced as a young Blackman coming up in America.
513
00:29:46,916 --> 00:29:49,250
And then with all that
514
00:29:49,333 --> 00:29:52,333
Black peoplewere confronting at that point,
515
00:29:52,416 --> 00:29:55,333
it requires a great deal
of temerity
516
00:29:55,416 --> 00:29:59,000
to say that you're going
to change that with your camera.
517
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:07,541
In 1956, LIFE sent Gordonto Alabama
518
00:30:07,625 --> 00:30:12,000
to do a story about segregation
in the Jim Crow South.
519
00:30:14,666 --> 00:30:17,375
Dispatches coming outof the south
520
00:30:17,458 --> 00:30:21,500
are the usual reporting
on racial violence.
521
00:30:23,750 --> 00:30:27,000
In 1955, just months before
522
00:30:27,083 --> 00:30:29,500
Gordon Parks traveledto Alabama,
523
00:30:29,583 --> 00:30:33,250
Emmett Till wasbrutally tortured and killed
524
00:30:33,333 --> 00:30:34,833
in Money, Mississippi.
525
00:30:37,416 --> 00:30:39,958
If the death of my soncan mean something
526
00:30:40,041 --> 00:30:43,250
to the other unfortunate people
all over the world,
527
00:30:43,333 --> 00:30:46,708
then for him
to have died a hero
528
00:30:46,791 --> 00:30:50,666
would mean more to me
than for him just to have died.
529
00:30:50,750 --> 00:30:54,250
His mother Mamie allowed
Jet magazine to publish
530
00:30:54,333 --> 00:30:58,833
the images of his defiled,desecrated body.
531
00:31:02,083 --> 00:31:04,708
I saw Emmett Till's
photograph in Jet magazine.
532
00:31:07,541 --> 00:31:08,958
I'll never forget it.
533
00:31:10,750 --> 00:31:12,208
I still get very emotional.
534
00:31:14,625 --> 00:31:17,500
I was eight years old
when Emmett Till was murdered
535
00:31:17,583 --> 00:31:19,458
and I didn't...
I... Wh... What...
536
00:31:19,541 --> 00:31:21,833
What was that all about?
I couldn't understand it.
537
00:31:24,541 --> 00:31:26,625
That photographwas really evidence
538
00:31:26,708 --> 00:31:27,875
of what could happen to you
539
00:31:27,958 --> 00:31:30,416
as a Black personin the deep South,
540
00:31:30,500 --> 00:31:32,708
and that was the worldthat Gordon Parks
541
00:31:32,791 --> 00:31:35,208
was stepping into in 1956.
542
00:31:41,708 --> 00:31:45,083
Gordon liked to embody
whatever subject
543
00:31:45,166 --> 00:31:47,208
he had been asked
by his editors
544
00:31:47,291 --> 00:31:50,666
to represent in a family.
545
00:31:50,750 --> 00:31:53,125
Because he knew that the readersof LIFE magazine
546
00:31:53,208 --> 00:31:56,916
would be innately sympatheticto the circumstances of a child,
547
00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:58,708
of a family, and of a community.
548
00:32:01,208 --> 00:32:03,583
Those photographs hadtremendous impact
549
00:32:03,666 --> 00:32:05,333
partly because of the color.
550
00:32:08,750 --> 00:32:12,041
At that time,a searing photo essayin the pages of LIFE
551
00:32:12,125 --> 00:32:14,458
was practically expectedto be in black and white.
552
00:32:19,166 --> 00:32:23,666
He wanted that colorto implicate people seeing this,
553
00:32:23,750 --> 00:32:28,125
so that they would understandthis is your America right now.
554
00:32:31,625 --> 00:32:34,333
People were told
that segregation was benign.
555
00:32:34,416 --> 00:32:36,500
It's okay,
Black people want it.
556
00:32:36,583 --> 00:32:37,916
That's not what you see
557
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:41,125
when you see his images
and the hurt and the exclusion
558
00:32:41,208 --> 00:32:42,916
that these families present.
559
00:32:45,208 --> 00:32:48,333
These children areliterally excluded by this fence
560
00:32:48,416 --> 00:32:50,833
that they cannot pass.
561
00:32:50,916 --> 00:32:52,125
Even from behind,
562
00:32:52,208 --> 00:32:54,375
he's able to conveytheir sense of longing
563
00:32:54,458 --> 00:32:56,166
to be ableto go into that space.
564
00:33:00,833 --> 00:33:03,125
He can takesomething that's so negative,
565
00:33:03,208 --> 00:33:05,041
but when youfirst digest it and look at it,
566
00:33:05,125 --> 00:33:06,750
before you startto unpack everything,
567
00:33:06,833 --> 00:33:09,416
it's like super warm, and itjust like blows you away.
568
00:33:09,500 --> 00:33:11,916
I think he was really good
at even things
569
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:13,416
that might have been
570
00:33:13,500 --> 00:33:16,875
uncomfortable for, as a
Black person to capture
571
00:33:16,958 --> 00:33:18,833
but he has this thing wherethe way he frames stuff,
572
00:33:18,916 --> 00:33:22,000
it draws you in, and it makesyou wanna have a conversation.
573
00:33:24,375 --> 00:33:26,291
There's an elegance.
Even, there's an elegance,
574
00:33:26,375 --> 00:33:29,291
even to his
depictions of evil, basically.
575
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:33,125
It's her dressthat does it for me
576
00:33:33,208 --> 00:33:38,208
and the earring, and the purse,and the perfectly matched shoes.
577
00:33:38,833 --> 00:33:40,166
She's a queen,
578
00:33:40,250 --> 00:33:42,625
and yet she has
to have a separate entrance
579
00:33:42,708 --> 00:33:44,875
from the White woman
in the red dress
580
00:33:44,958 --> 00:33:46,708
that's further down the street.
581
00:33:48,375 --> 00:33:53,166
Mrs. Joanne Wilsonwas walking with her young niece
582
00:33:53,250 --> 00:33:55,666
by a segregated movie theatre,
583
00:33:55,750 --> 00:33:59,208
and the little girlsmelled popcorn.
584
00:33:59,291 --> 00:34:03,541
I interviewed Mrs. Wilson60 years afterthat photograph was taken.
585
00:34:03,625 --> 00:34:07,791
And she said,
"I was feeling a sense
of almost panic of what to do.
586
00:34:07,875 --> 00:34:10,000
I wasn't going
to take my niece
587
00:34:10,083 --> 00:34:13,208
into a segregated back entrance.
I wouldn't do it."
588
00:34:15,458 --> 00:34:16,791
So I asked Mrs. Wilson
589
00:34:16,875 --> 00:34:19,000
about the experienceof the shoot,
590
00:34:19,083 --> 00:34:22,083
and I said, "Was there anything
about it that upset you
591
00:34:22,166 --> 00:34:23,500
or bothered you?"
and she said,
592
00:34:23,583 --> 00:34:24,750
and she loved Gordon,
593
00:34:24,833 --> 00:34:26,916
and she said, "Yes.
594
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:29,458
When I looked atthe photograph, I realized that
595
00:34:29,541 --> 00:34:31,750
the strapof my slip had fallen.
596
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:35,708
I was a proud Black womanin Alabama,
597
00:34:35,791 --> 00:34:39,250
and I never left my housenot being dressed perfectly."
598
00:34:41,500 --> 00:34:42,791
I understand how she felt,
599
00:34:42,875 --> 00:34:45,083
but I don't think that Gordonwould have told her
600
00:34:45,166 --> 00:34:47,291
to adjust the strapbecause for him
601
00:34:47,375 --> 00:34:49,666
it representedsomething remarkable.
602
00:34:50,958 --> 00:34:52,666
She was distracted.
603
00:34:52,750 --> 00:34:56,250
You cannot be a motheror even human
604
00:34:56,333 --> 00:34:59,916
and not see that little momentof drama in a photograph
605
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:04,000
and not feel a sense
of affiliation with Mrs. Wilson.
606
00:35:08,666 --> 00:35:13,125
Gordon Parks'sphotography demanded
607
00:35:13,208 --> 00:35:16,750
that America look at itself.
608
00:35:16,833 --> 00:35:22,416
His work did what art does
at its very best.
609
00:35:22,500 --> 00:35:28,500
It makes the viewerengage deeply in the subject.
610
00:35:28,583 --> 00:35:32,541
And to seenarratives about life,
611
00:35:32,625 --> 00:35:34,500
about our history.
612
00:35:34,583 --> 00:35:38,041
So when you look at those
beautiful photographs,
613
00:35:38,125 --> 00:35:40,833
what you saw was dignity
614
00:35:40,916 --> 00:35:46,833
in the face of remarkablediscrimination and bigotry.
615
00:35:52,583 --> 00:35:54,041
And rising...
616
00:35:56,833 --> 00:35:58,708
You got to wait for him
to rise, folks.
617
00:36:00,083 --> 00:36:02,500
Okay, now rise behind him.
You got to look for him.
618
00:36:03,500 --> 00:36:04,875
One of the thingsabout Mr. Parks
619
00:36:04,958 --> 00:36:08,916
that had beenreally inspiring and informative
620
00:36:09,041 --> 00:36:12,416
is the idea thatif I pick up my camera,
621
00:36:12,500 --> 00:36:14,500
I can say somethingand show something,
622
00:36:14,583 --> 00:36:16,041
and that I will be heard,
623
00:36:16,125 --> 00:36:18,916
and that it will be seen,
and a story will be told.
624
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:20,083
Action!
625
00:36:20,166 --> 00:36:22,416
And that my camera gives methe power to do that.
626
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:26,375
To think of the camera
as a weapon is a strong way
627
00:36:26,458 --> 00:36:29,041
to think about it and something
that I have come to embrace.
628
00:36:31,958 --> 00:36:34,791
Some of my favorite workof his is in color.
629
00:36:34,875 --> 00:36:37,541
There's somethingabout the colorthat feels very painterly
630
00:36:37,625 --> 00:36:40,875
in a way that's differentfrom the black and white.
631
00:36:40,958 --> 00:36:44,625
I remember lookingat those photos,and I look at them often.
632
00:36:44,708 --> 00:36:47,375
They inform, even choicesthat I make in cinematography
633
00:36:47,458 --> 00:36:48,541
for my films.
634
00:36:49,791 --> 00:36:51,083
There's a photo that I love.
635
00:36:51,166 --> 00:36:52,791
It's a little boysitting in a field,
636
00:36:52,875 --> 00:36:54,833
and he has an "X" on his head
637
00:36:54,916 --> 00:36:56,375
that's like a target.
638
00:36:58,375 --> 00:36:59,958
That image just says so much.
639
00:37:02,375 --> 00:37:06,083
The rest, the relaxation,the intimacy,
640
00:37:06,166 --> 00:37:08,041
juxtaposed against the poverty.
641
00:37:12,208 --> 00:37:13,583
We think of photography,I think,
642
00:37:13,666 --> 00:37:16,250
as like a solitary art practice.
643
00:37:19,666 --> 00:37:21,000
It's the photographerand their camera,
644
00:37:21,083 --> 00:37:24,208
but really, they're inrelationship with their subject.
645
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:28,916
When I look at his work,I think, "God!How'd he get that?"
646
00:37:30,041 --> 00:37:31,875
The ease and the intimacy
647
00:37:31,958 --> 00:37:34,333
that comes through
in so much of his work.
648
00:37:36,500 --> 00:37:38,958
The process with actors isyou're trying to achieve
649
00:37:39,041 --> 00:37:41,083
the same ends of intimacy,of a connection...
650
00:37:41,166 --> 00:37:42,250
Action!
651
00:37:42,333 --> 00:37:44,500
...of an understandingof the material and each other,
652
00:37:44,583 --> 00:37:47,125
so that you can getto those true places.
653
00:37:47,208 --> 00:37:49,625
Pent up emotions
and inattention
654
00:37:49,708 --> 00:37:51,958
would have led
to an uncontrollable,
655
00:37:52,041 --> 00:37:53,791
retaliatory situation.
656
00:37:53,875 --> 00:37:57,958
Well done. We're good.
Looking good. Thank you.
657
00:37:58,041 --> 00:38:00,125
The thingfor Black filmmakers is
658
00:38:00,208 --> 00:38:02,708
for far too longwe've been relegated to
659
00:38:02,791 --> 00:38:04,875
one set of tools, if any.
660
00:38:04,958 --> 00:38:07,916
One of the thingsabout Mr. Parks is the ability
661
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:13,041
to work within many boxes
and to use many tools.
662
00:38:26,125 --> 00:38:28,125
If one wereto look at the entirety
663
00:38:28,208 --> 00:38:29,333
of Gordon Parks's career,
664
00:38:29,416 --> 00:38:31,666
you would be struck by
the range of work that he did.
665
00:38:33,125 --> 00:38:36,708
It's absolutely fascinatinghow he's able to bounce around
666
00:38:36,791 --> 00:38:39,166
from photojournalismto fashion photography,
667
00:38:39,250 --> 00:38:43,416
to portraiture, to abstraction,and everything in between.
668
00:38:43,500 --> 00:38:48,125
And yet somehow, it's all tiedtogether by his approach,
669
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:52,000
the idea
that he's fully invested
670
00:38:52,083 --> 00:38:54,125
in every single one
of his subjects.
671
00:38:57,958 --> 00:39:00,166
His whole thing was to be there
672
00:39:00,250 --> 00:39:02,833
and have a point of view.
Definitely had a point of view
673
00:39:02,916 --> 00:39:05,541
about Black liberation,
Black freedom,
674
00:39:05,625 --> 00:39:08,083
White oppression, uh, fashion.
675
00:39:12,500 --> 00:39:14,458
But not to imposethat in the environment,
676
00:39:14,541 --> 00:39:16,166
to be able to be there
677
00:39:16,250 --> 00:39:19,750
and find those moments where,
"Boom, boom, boom."
678
00:39:30,208 --> 00:39:31,541
My mom and Gordon Parks met
679
00:39:31,625 --> 00:39:33,375
on a photo shoot
for LIFE magazine.
680
00:39:35,458 --> 00:39:38,041
She was gonna bein a play called The Swan
681
00:39:38,125 --> 00:39:41,875
and Gordon wasthe photographer assigned to it.
682
00:39:41,958 --> 00:39:43,666
They just instantly
sort of clicked.
683
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:49,583
My mom, I mean,you couldn't have moredifferent circumstances,
684
00:39:49,666 --> 00:39:51,875
she grew up obviously surroundedby great wealth.
685
00:39:55,833 --> 00:39:58,416
She said that this was thefirst African American person
686
00:39:58,500 --> 00:39:59,833
she really became friends with.
687
00:40:01,833 --> 00:40:03,916
I think they did connectas artists.
688
00:40:05,833 --> 00:40:08,291
That was the beginningof what would become
689
00:40:08,375 --> 00:40:10,250
this extraordinary
lifelong friendship.
690
00:40:12,500 --> 00:40:15,250
I always knew there was moreto their relationship
691
00:40:15,333 --> 00:40:16,916
than he was just a family friend
692
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:19,750
who would spend weekendsout in Long Island with us.
693
00:40:22,500 --> 00:40:23,833
But I knew Gordon's work
694
00:40:23,916 --> 00:40:25,791
from the time I was a kid.I followed it.
695
00:40:28,333 --> 00:40:30,791
He had the abilityto tell other people's stories
696
00:40:30,875 --> 00:40:33,833
and the ability to enmesh
yourself in somebody else's life
697
00:40:33,916 --> 00:40:35,541
and to document it.
698
00:40:35,625 --> 00:40:37,083
I just found that amazing.
699
00:40:39,791 --> 00:40:42,625
Gordon was this guywho could connectwith all of these people,
700
00:40:42,708 --> 00:40:45,208
and not necessarilybe everyone's best friend,
701
00:40:45,291 --> 00:40:48,041
but gain respect enoughto move in their spaces.
702
00:40:49,791 --> 00:40:52,916
As a photographer, and I learnedmyself as a journalist,
703
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:55,083
the ability to be there
and be present
704
00:40:55,166 --> 00:40:56,375
but not to interfere.
705
00:40:57,250 --> 00:40:59,291
To be able to sit back,
706
00:40:59,375 --> 00:41:02,375
let it happen, observe closelywhat's going on,
707
00:41:02,458 --> 00:41:04,083
and find out what'sinteresting about it.
708
00:41:04,166 --> 00:41:05,833
He had that ability,and it comes through
709
00:41:05,916 --> 00:41:07,375
in all of his photography.
710
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:19,541
In 1957, LIFE sent Gordon
711
00:41:19,625 --> 00:41:22,625
to photographthe American crime crisis.
712
00:41:28,333 --> 00:41:32,333
He represented
crime as an ambiguity.
713
00:41:38,041 --> 00:41:40,500
It deracializedthe story of crime.
714
00:41:42,125 --> 00:41:45,125
There were White criminals.There were Black criminals.
715
00:41:48,750 --> 00:41:52,541
He also showedthe humanity around crime.
716
00:41:53,791 --> 00:41:56,291
It challenges this notion
717
00:41:56,375 --> 00:41:58,791
that a criminal
is someone who is
718
00:41:58,875 --> 00:42:01,333
entirely loathsome,
entirely evil.
719
00:42:07,666 --> 00:42:10,958
There's an incrediblephotograph of a prison cell.
720
00:42:11,041 --> 00:42:15,958
You see a hand leaning over oneof the bars with a cigarette,
721
00:42:16,041 --> 00:42:19,250
but on the bottom, you seethe hand grabbing the bar.
722
00:42:22,625 --> 00:42:25,333
What you see is the anxiety
723
00:42:26,708 --> 00:42:28,416
of the person behind bars.
724
00:42:30,375 --> 00:42:33,208
Gordon was ableto tell both sides of the story.
725
00:42:33,291 --> 00:42:35,458
Being able to gointo a police station
726
00:42:35,541 --> 00:42:37,666
and shootingfrom that perspective.
727
00:42:39,541 --> 00:42:43,958
As an artist, we are the mediumbetween opposing sides,
728
00:42:44,041 --> 00:42:45,833
and we arethe only ones that can actually
729
00:42:45,916 --> 00:42:48,458
create that narrative
to even start a conversation.
730
00:43:01,500 --> 00:43:03,250
You cannot bea person of color
731
00:43:03,333 --> 00:43:04,916
growing up in the urban north
732
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:08,000
and not be mindful
of the way in which
733
00:43:08,083 --> 00:43:10,083
police officers were symbols.
734
00:43:10,166 --> 00:43:12,416
They represented
threat and menace.
735
00:43:12,500 --> 00:43:14,458
My cousins livedin North Philadelphia,
736
00:43:14,541 --> 00:43:16,125
and when we would gospend time with them,
737
00:43:16,208 --> 00:43:17,875
there was acompletely foreign environment.
738
00:43:17,958 --> 00:43:19,875
And my cousin would say,
739
00:43:19,958 --> 00:43:22,083
"If you see a gang coming down
one street
740
00:43:22,166 --> 00:43:24,666
and you see the police
coming down another street,
741
00:43:24,750 --> 00:43:26,166
both of them are dangerous,
742
00:43:26,250 --> 00:43:28,916
but run toward the gang,
not toward the police."
743
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:31,583
And it wasn't because peopledidn't want law and order.
744
00:43:31,666 --> 00:43:35,500
They did. They just didn't wantit imposed through abuse.
745
00:43:38,541 --> 00:43:41,625
And Parks got it, you know,in the images presented.
746
00:43:50,958 --> 00:43:53,541
That image where he showsthose police officers
747
00:43:53,625 --> 00:43:57,041
crashing down a door,gun in hand.
748
00:43:57,125 --> 00:43:58,708
There's a kind of violence.
749
00:43:58,791 --> 00:44:02,125
Can you imagine beingon the other side of this door?
750
00:44:04,083 --> 00:44:07,958
So it's a really powerful imageto contradict this idea
751
00:44:08,041 --> 00:44:10,541
that these are the peoplewho make us safe.
752
00:44:10,625 --> 00:44:12,416
You know,I see this and I think,
753
00:44:12,500 --> 00:44:15,291
"Keep me as far awayfrom these guys as possible."
754
00:44:28,333 --> 00:44:32,458
Using the rule of lawis certainly a way
755
00:44:32,541 --> 00:44:36,541
to fight against
inequality and injustice.
756
00:44:40,666 --> 00:44:44,125
But I have recognizedthat that's not enough.
757
00:44:44,208 --> 00:44:46,958
Now I see myself
very much engaged in...
758
00:44:48,250 --> 00:44:51,541
in narrative work
and using narrative tools
759
00:44:51,625 --> 00:44:54,500
to fight againstinequality and injustice,
760
00:44:54,583 --> 00:44:58,125
and that's the reason whyit makes perfect sense to us
761
00:44:58,208 --> 00:44:59,333
to build a museum.
762
00:45:01,458 --> 00:45:05,333
The primary goal is totell a story about our history
763
00:45:05,416 --> 00:45:07,083
that shakes people sufficiently.
764
00:45:07,166 --> 00:45:09,083
You're motivatedto say, "Never again"
765
00:45:09,166 --> 00:45:12,291
to racial bigotry and bias.
766
00:45:16,208 --> 00:45:18,625
Gordon Parks became central
767
00:45:18,708 --> 00:45:20,791
to the way we wantedto talk about our imagery
768
00:45:20,875 --> 00:45:23,208
and storytelling throughphotography.
769
00:45:28,500 --> 00:45:33,125
Narrative work is how Parkschanged hearts and minds.
770
00:45:37,875 --> 00:45:38,833
You can change laws,
771
00:45:38,916 --> 00:45:41,250
but if you don't, kind of,work on people
772
00:45:41,333 --> 00:45:45,250
and the psychology behindbigotry and exclusion,
773
00:45:45,333 --> 00:45:46,833
then you're notgonna make any progress.
774
00:45:51,750 --> 00:45:55,291
And Parks understood earlythat he had a role to play
775
00:45:55,375 --> 00:45:57,083
if we were gonna kind ofshape the things
776
00:45:57,166 --> 00:45:59,375
that people believeabout equality.
777
00:46:04,625 --> 00:46:07,583
You know,as a photographer for LIFE,
778
00:46:07,666 --> 00:46:10,250
you look at publicationslike that.
779
00:46:15,291 --> 00:46:18,416
And in this very subtle way,this notion of
780
00:46:18,500 --> 00:46:21,458
who is an Americanwas being reinforced.
781
00:46:21,541 --> 00:46:23,791
Week after week,month after month.
782
00:46:29,125 --> 00:46:32,375
And so Parks's imagesreally disrupted that.
783
00:46:35,541 --> 00:46:37,541
If you had to seethis Black family
784
00:46:37,625 --> 00:46:38,833
in one of his photos
785
00:46:38,916 --> 00:46:41,041
juxtaposed withthese White families
786
00:46:41,125 --> 00:46:42,541
in these ads,
787
00:46:42,625 --> 00:46:45,416
it caused you to kind of thinkjust a little differently.
788
00:46:45,500 --> 00:46:51,500
It raised questionsabout who is an American.
789
00:46:57,458 --> 00:47:00,125
Gordon Parks
was often criticized
790
00:47:00,208 --> 00:47:01,625
as much as he was applauded
791
00:47:01,708 --> 00:47:03,375
for his position
at LIFE magazine,
792
00:47:03,458 --> 00:47:08,166
and he was very aware of
being in a conflicted position.
793
00:47:08,250 --> 00:47:13,166
He talks about how he was seenas often going in
794
00:47:13,250 --> 00:47:15,500
as LIFE's, quote,"Black photographer,"
795
00:47:15,583 --> 00:47:18,500
and creating storiesthat were meant to appeal
796
00:47:18,583 --> 00:47:20,125
to a White audience.
797
00:47:20,208 --> 00:47:22,083
At the same time,
he understood that
798
00:47:22,166 --> 00:47:25,416
when he was covering stories
that had to do with race,
799
00:47:25,500 --> 00:47:27,416
that he was in a unique position
800
00:47:27,500 --> 00:47:30,041
to tell those stories
from his point of view.
801
00:47:30,125 --> 00:47:34,500
And a great example of that
was in 1963, when he was sent
802
00:47:34,583 --> 00:47:36,416
to do a story about
the Nation of Islam.
803
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:40,333
Americais a White man's country.
804
00:47:40,416 --> 00:47:42,833
A countrythat was stolen by the White man
805
00:47:42,916 --> 00:47:44,500
from the dark-skinned Indians,
806
00:47:44,583 --> 00:47:49,041
who then kidnapped our peopleand brought us here in chains.
807
00:47:49,125 --> 00:47:52,208
I saw Malcolm forthe very first time in person
808
00:47:52,291 --> 00:47:55,500
on the corner of 125th Streetand 7th Avenue.
809
00:47:55,583 --> 00:47:58,708
There's no such thingas justice in this country
810
00:47:58,791 --> 00:48:00,000
for a Black man.
811
00:48:00,083 --> 00:48:02,666
And there's no such thingas equality in this country
812
00:48:02,750 --> 00:48:04,291
for a Black man.
813
00:48:04,375 --> 00:48:07,291
This is a White man's country!
814
00:48:07,375 --> 00:48:10,541
The first thing I asked himwas about the possibility
815
00:48:10,625 --> 00:48:13,000
of my coveringthe Black Muslims.
816
00:48:13,083 --> 00:48:15,250
And he said, "Well,
the honorable Elijah Muhammad
817
00:48:15,333 --> 00:48:16,791
would have to decide that."
818
00:48:18,791 --> 00:48:20,958
Malcolm and I flewto Phoenix, Arizona.
819
00:48:21,041 --> 00:48:23,041
The first thing Elijah Muhammadsaid to me was,
820
00:48:23,125 --> 00:48:25,000
"Why are you working
for the White devils?"
821
00:48:26,333 --> 00:48:29,458
I said, "Well, you know,
you've heard of
822
00:48:30,500 --> 00:48:32,208
getting behind the iron horse
823
00:48:32,291 --> 00:48:33,625
and finding out
what's going on?"
824
00:48:33,708 --> 00:48:35,458
He said, "I don't buy that."
825
00:48:36,708 --> 00:48:39,750
Well, in any case,
he said, "We'll give you a try.
826
00:48:39,833 --> 00:48:42,166
Brother Malcolm isgonna escort you through
827
00:48:42,250 --> 00:48:45,291
the world of Islam,and if I like what you do,
828
00:48:45,375 --> 00:48:47,958
I'll send youa big box of cigars.
829
00:48:48,041 --> 00:48:51,500
If I don't like what you do,
we'll be out to visit you."
830
00:48:53,083 --> 00:48:55,750
And that's the way
Malcolm and I got started.
831
00:48:55,833 --> 00:48:58,333
In the name of Allah,the beneficent, the merciful,
832
00:48:58,416 --> 00:48:59,916
to whom all praise is due.
833
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:02,458
Whom we forever thankfor giving us
834
00:49:02,541 --> 00:49:03,958
the honorable Elijah Muhammad
835
00:49:04,041 --> 00:49:05,916
as our leader,teacher, and guide.
836
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:09,375
I found in the mosquessuch order,
837
00:49:09,458 --> 00:49:12,416
uniformityin just about everything.
838
00:49:12,500 --> 00:49:14,458
Malcolm would walkwith a long stick
839
00:49:14,541 --> 00:49:18,375
and point to a blackboardand explain what Elijah Muhammad
840
00:49:18,458 --> 00:49:19,916
expected of Muslims.
841
00:49:23,500 --> 00:49:27,583
I was surprised to see themtraining German Shepherd dogs.
842
00:49:27,666 --> 00:49:29,458
Malcolm would look at meand smile.
843
00:49:29,541 --> 00:49:31,500
He says, "If they can facethat dog
844
00:49:31,583 --> 00:49:32,875
with its vicious fangs,
845
00:49:32,958 --> 00:49:34,625
they can facea lot of other things."
846
00:49:36,791 --> 00:49:39,000
I went into some ofthe Muslim families.
847
00:49:39,083 --> 00:49:41,375
I asked one father in Brooklyn,
848
00:49:41,458 --> 00:49:43,791
I said, "Suppose your son camehome one day
849
00:49:43,875 --> 00:49:47,083
and told you that he wasrenouncing the Muslim religion."
850
00:49:47,166 --> 00:49:49,208
He said, "I would turn himfrom my door
851
00:49:49,291 --> 00:49:51,666
and wouldnever allow him in again."
852
00:49:51,750 --> 00:49:54,000
It was amazing,the faith that they had
853
00:49:54,083 --> 00:49:56,291
in Elijah Muhammadand in Malcolm.
854
00:49:57,708 --> 00:49:59,750
Gordon Parksspends several months
855
00:49:59,833 --> 00:50:02,291
with membersof the Nation of Islam.
856
00:50:02,375 --> 00:50:04,250
It becomes a true collaboration
857
00:50:04,333 --> 00:50:08,250
where Gordon Parks is allowedunprecedented access.
858
00:50:14,666 --> 00:50:17,541
I was in New York
when I got a call from Malcolm.
859
00:50:17,625 --> 00:50:21,375
He had just reached
the Los Angeles Airport.
860
00:50:22,458 --> 00:50:24,333
He said, "Can you get out here?"
861
00:50:24,416 --> 00:50:26,333
The person, whom you have come
862
00:50:26,416 --> 00:50:30,541
to know as Ronald Stokes,we know him as brother Ronald.
863
00:50:30,625 --> 00:50:34,375
And an innocent manwhen he was murdered.
864
00:50:34,458 --> 00:50:36,833
That's whenRonald Stokes was shot.
865
00:50:36,916 --> 00:50:38,583
Police had gone to the mosque,
866
00:50:38,666 --> 00:50:40,083
and there'd beensome confrontation
867
00:50:40,166 --> 00:50:42,583
with the young Muslimsout in front of the mosque.
868
00:50:42,666 --> 00:50:44,875
These are the victimsof police bullets.
869
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:48,208
And it is the police who shouldbe on trial here in Los Angeles.
870
00:50:48,291 --> 00:50:50,375
Malcolm wanted to showthe rest of the world
871
00:50:50,458 --> 00:50:52,375
that these guyswere using brutality,
872
00:50:52,458 --> 00:50:54,416
especially against Muslims.
873
00:50:54,500 --> 00:50:57,750
They can go inand murder unarmed,
874
00:50:57,833 --> 00:50:59,208
innocent Negroes,
875
00:50:59,291 --> 00:51:03,000
and the White public isgullible enough to back them up.
876
00:51:03,083 --> 00:51:04,500
Malcolm wasterribly angry,
877
00:51:04,583 --> 00:51:07,416
as were a lot of Black peoplewho were not Muslims.
878
00:51:07,500 --> 00:51:09,541
I was angry myself,
terribly angry.
879
00:51:10,958 --> 00:51:12,708
It was very tense out there.
880
00:51:12,791 --> 00:51:15,041
Cops were patrollingthe streets.
881
00:51:15,125 --> 00:51:19,625
I knew if something happened,I would be in the firing line.
882
00:51:19,708 --> 00:51:22,083
I never separated myselffrom them
883
00:51:22,166 --> 00:51:24,041
in terms of being a reporter.
884
00:51:25,458 --> 00:51:29,000
I felt, frankly, like a Muslim.
885
00:51:36,708 --> 00:51:39,125
Malcolm and Ireally felt like brothers.
886
00:51:39,208 --> 00:51:41,750
He was not the fiery monster
887
00:51:41,833 --> 00:51:44,083
that he was on
the street corner.
888
00:51:44,166 --> 00:51:47,333
He was a gentle, sweet guy.
889
00:51:47,416 --> 00:51:49,875
Coming betweenLos Angeles and New York,
890
00:51:49,958 --> 00:51:51,458
we took a night plane.
891
00:51:51,541 --> 00:51:53,791
And he leaned over
on my shoulder and said to me,
892
00:51:53,875 --> 00:51:55,958
"Brother, you know I have a lot
of respect for you."
893
00:51:56,041 --> 00:51:57,166
Things of that sort.
894
00:51:57,250 --> 00:51:59,333
And I said, "Well, I have
a lot of respect for you."
895
00:51:59,416 --> 00:52:02,125
He dropped his head onmy shoulder and went to sleep.
896
00:52:06,208 --> 00:52:08,708
When we reached New York,
I said, "You called me 'brother'
897
00:52:08,791 --> 00:52:10,375
for the first time." He said,
898
00:52:10,458 --> 00:52:12,791
"Well, for the first time,
you deserved it."
899
00:52:24,125 --> 00:52:26,375
When the story came out in LIFE,
900
00:52:26,458 --> 00:52:30,500
the headline and the dispositionof the text to photographs
901
00:52:30,583 --> 00:52:33,208
turned it into somethingvery inflammatory.
902
00:52:34,416 --> 00:52:36,333
The text is quite critical.
903
00:52:36,416 --> 00:52:39,500
It presents this, you know,
what was the popular view
904
00:52:39,583 --> 00:52:41,541
of the Nation of Islamat the time.
905
00:52:41,625 --> 00:52:45,291
As an outsider group,as a somewhat violent group.
906
00:52:46,583 --> 00:52:48,541
What's fascinating is
that Gordon Parks
907
00:52:48,625 --> 00:52:51,833
actually contributes
his own separate text
908
00:52:51,916 --> 00:52:54,375
saying, "These aresystemic problems
909
00:52:54,458 --> 00:52:55,875
across the United States.
910
00:52:55,958 --> 00:52:59,125
These are problemsthat are relevantto everyone's life.
911
00:52:59,208 --> 00:53:03,083
These are problemsthat you should see fromthis point of view."
912
00:53:03,166 --> 00:53:05,375
And that's where he
becomes an activist.
913
00:53:13,666 --> 00:53:16,875
- B-mark.
- Backward action!
914
00:53:16,958 --> 00:53:18,958
Are you down for
the liberation of Black people?
915
00:53:19,041 --> 00:53:21,000
Do we always
have to talk politics?
916
00:53:21,083 --> 00:53:22,583
What's more important?
917
00:53:22,666 --> 00:53:24,083
Cut! Check the gate.
918
00:53:24,166 --> 00:53:25,708
I love Gordon.
919
00:53:25,791 --> 00:53:28,166
We just havegreat respect for each other.
920
00:53:28,250 --> 00:53:29,333
Action!
921
00:53:32,125 --> 00:53:35,583
He's one of the guys,without them,
922
00:53:35,666 --> 00:53:38,916
I would not bethe filmmaker I am.
923
00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:41,625
Harlem has come to bid farewell
924
00:53:41,708 --> 00:53:44,166
to one of its brightest hopes.
925
00:53:44,250 --> 00:53:48,000
At the end of Malcolm X,
we had my brother, Ossie Davis,
926
00:53:48,083 --> 00:53:50,916
re-record the eulogy
927
00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:54,041
which he gaveat Malcolm's Muslim funeral.
928
00:53:55,250 --> 00:53:57,333
And there's a montage.
929
00:53:57,416 --> 00:54:02,375
Many of the pictures were takenby my brother, Gordon Parks.
930
00:54:02,458 --> 00:54:03,708
We were very happy that
931
00:54:03,791 --> 00:54:06,166
Gordon gave us the permissionto use those
932
00:54:06,250 --> 00:54:08,583
historic photographsof Malcolm X.
933
00:54:10,833 --> 00:54:14,041
That camera in his handswas a weapon.
934
00:54:15,458 --> 00:54:17,250
That was a
motherfuckin' bazooka!
935
00:54:18,416 --> 00:54:23,000
That wasn't no
six shooter or rifle.
936
00:54:23,083 --> 00:54:28,375
When Mr. Gordon Parks
had that camera in his hand,
937
00:54:28,458 --> 00:54:29,708
that was a bazooka.
938
00:54:34,083 --> 00:54:36,458
But you're not gonna get
the great photographs
939
00:54:36,541 --> 00:54:39,583
if you don't establish trust.
940
00:54:41,375 --> 00:54:43,916
Gordon come in, light up a room,
941
00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:46,791
gave everybody respect.No matter if you were
942
00:54:46,875 --> 00:54:49,541
Gloria Vanderbiltor some bum on the street.
943
00:54:49,625 --> 00:54:56,375
It's only when people feel safe
that they open themselves up.
944
00:54:56,458 --> 00:54:59,791
And then, the camera
will capture the essence.
945
00:55:03,166 --> 00:55:04,833
At least withthe films I'm doing,
946
00:55:04,916 --> 00:55:07,083
especially morefor documentaries I think,
947
00:55:07,166 --> 00:55:09,791
you gotta ask peoplepersonal questions
948
00:55:09,875 --> 00:55:12,875
about very painful moments
in their life.
949
00:55:12,958 --> 00:55:16,166
For example, 4 Little Girls
was about the bombing
950
00:55:16,250 --> 00:55:18,625
of the 16th StreetBirmingham Baptist Church.
951
00:55:19,750 --> 00:55:22,416
And when you're talkingto someone
952
00:55:22,500 --> 00:55:24,500
whose kid was...
953
00:55:24,583 --> 00:55:26,666
dynamite blew their body apart.
954
00:55:28,416 --> 00:55:30,541
That's not easy.
955
00:55:30,625 --> 00:55:34,250
When did you find out thatCarole had been in the blast?
956
00:55:34,333 --> 00:55:37,666
When- when my husband
and my mother-in-law came back-
957
00:55:37,750 --> 00:55:39,125
came in to tell me.
958
00:55:42,166 --> 00:55:43,333
Oh, boy.
959
00:55:45,958 --> 00:55:48,041
It was just... It was awful.
960
00:55:49,583 --> 00:55:51,458
It's the job of the artist
961
00:55:51,541 --> 00:55:53,000
to have
your subject comfortable.
962
00:55:54,875 --> 00:55:57,750
And Gordon had that gift.
963
00:56:05,833 --> 00:56:09,208
Freedom, freedom.
964
00:56:09,291 --> 00:56:12,166
Gordon's photographyforms a foundation
965
00:56:12,250 --> 00:56:14,833
for a visual narrative
of Black Americans
966
00:56:15,666 --> 00:56:17,833
seen through Black eyes.
967
00:56:20,375 --> 00:56:23,125
If you look at it and date it,
968
00:56:23,208 --> 00:56:26,875
you see the evolution ofthe Civil Rights Movement.
969
00:56:26,958 --> 00:56:29,375
I have the pleasureto present to you
970
00:56:29,458 --> 00:56:32,125
Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.
971
00:56:32,208 --> 00:56:35,250
If you lookat his photographs, it'sa great chronological record
972
00:56:35,333 --> 00:56:38,375
of what the 20th centurywas about for Black Americans.
973
00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:43,666
Gordon made us visible to peoplein a way that
974
00:56:43,750 --> 00:56:45,833
no other photographercould have done it.
975
00:56:45,916 --> 00:56:48,958
He came from the community,and that was always obvious.
976
00:56:55,416 --> 00:56:58,750
The hold of White supremacy
977
00:56:58,833 --> 00:57:03,083
on the Black psyche
was profound.
978
00:57:03,166 --> 00:57:04,291
And it was when we started
979
00:57:04,375 --> 00:57:08,083
to see the images
that lifted us up,
980
00:57:08,166 --> 00:57:12,125
that made us feelthat we were worthy,
981
00:57:12,208 --> 00:57:15,083
that we beganto really demand justice.
982
00:57:23,041 --> 00:57:28,333
And so Gordon Parks
was a warrior for justice.
983
00:57:35,583 --> 00:57:37,958
Cassius Clay is your name
no more, is that right?
984
00:57:38,041 --> 00:57:39,708
Yes, sir, it's Muhammad Ali.
985
00:57:39,791 --> 00:57:41,666
Muhammad means worthy
of all praises,
986
00:57:41,750 --> 00:57:45,000
and Ali means most high in
the Asian-African language.
987
00:57:45,083 --> 00:57:46,291
How long have you had the name?
988
00:57:46,375 --> 00:57:49,375
Well, for about um-
two weeks now.
989
00:57:49,458 --> 00:57:51,166
Is there anybody special
who gave you the name?
990
00:57:51,250 --> 00:57:54,333
Yes, sir, my leader
and teacher, the most honorable
Elijah Muhammad.
991
00:57:56,583 --> 00:57:59,125
Muhammad Ali beganas a reluctant assignment.
992
00:57:59,208 --> 00:58:02,541
I mean, Parks wasn't quite surewho Muhammad Ali was,
993
00:58:02,625 --> 00:58:05,083
his conversion to Islam.
994
00:58:05,166 --> 00:58:06,833
The fact that he
sort of transformed from
995
00:58:06,916 --> 00:58:10,333
Cassius Clay into a much more
radical political figure.
996
00:58:10,416 --> 00:58:14,500
I just don't understand yet
how I can be reclassified as 1-A
997
00:58:14,583 --> 00:58:16,250
without testing me in no way,
998
00:58:16,333 --> 00:58:19,125
just calling me like this,
and I just don't understand it.
999
00:58:19,208 --> 00:58:21,083
In other words,
you think they called you
1000
00:58:21,166 --> 00:58:23,166
only because you're
the heavyweight champion of...
1001
00:58:23,250 --> 00:58:24,250
And a Muslim too!
1002
00:58:24,333 --> 00:58:26,166
Ever since I've joined
the Muslim religion,
1003
00:58:26,250 --> 00:58:27,708
I've been catching hell
from here,
1004
00:58:27,791 --> 00:58:29,916
they've been trying to ail me,
and trick me into this...
1005
00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:34,750
At the time that Muhammad Ali
was opposing the Vietnamese War,
1006
00:58:34,833 --> 00:58:37,708
he was very controversial.
1007
00:58:37,791 --> 00:58:40,000
He really surprised peoplewhen he said that
1008
00:58:40,083 --> 00:58:43,250
he was taking a standfor himselfand for all Americans
1009
00:58:43,333 --> 00:58:45,083
who did not support the war,
1010
00:58:45,166 --> 00:58:47,541
and that blew a lotof people's minds.
1011
00:58:47,625 --> 00:58:50,291
"Ain't no Vietcong
ever called me nigger."
1012
00:58:50,708 --> 00:58:52,583
Wow.
1013
00:58:52,666 --> 00:58:55,833
That crystalized itfor all Black Americans.
1014
00:58:55,916 --> 00:58:57,625
Are you gonna resume
your boxing career?
1015
00:58:57,708 --> 00:58:59,041
Are you talking to us, champ?
1016
00:58:59,125 --> 00:59:01,333
No, I will not say nothing.
It is all in here.
1017
00:59:01,416 --> 00:59:03,041
When I met Muhammad Ali,
1018
00:59:03,125 --> 00:59:06,208
he was getting in trouble a lotwith the press.
1019
00:59:06,291 --> 00:59:08,500
I then took it upon myself
1020
00:59:08,583 --> 00:59:10,958
to say, "Hey don't letthe reporters rile you,
1021
00:59:11,041 --> 00:59:13,041
you know, be cooler about it."
1022
00:59:21,250 --> 00:59:24,500
When Parks began
to speak with Ali
1023
00:59:24,583 --> 00:59:25,958
and follow him around,
1024
00:59:26,041 --> 00:59:28,458
the two of them realized they
had a tremendous amount
in common.
1025
00:59:30,666 --> 00:59:32,916
In Gordon Parks's understanding
1026
00:59:33,000 --> 00:59:37,041
of Muhammad Ali,was the continuation
1027
00:59:37,125 --> 00:59:41,583
of being in the presence
of a genius
1028
00:59:41,666 --> 00:59:47,416
whose art was just his hands
and his attitude,
1029
00:59:47,500 --> 00:59:49,375
as compared to Langston Hughes,
1030
00:59:51,583 --> 00:59:52,875
or Richard Wright,
1031
00:59:54,291 --> 00:59:55,750
or Ralph Ellison.
1032
00:59:57,333 --> 01:00:00,000
That wasthe Malcolm X story too.
1033
01:00:00,083 --> 01:00:03,666
Parks could see,in these people,
1034
01:00:03,750 --> 01:00:05,375
a version of himself.
1035
01:00:06,500 --> 01:00:11,416
And was also trying to say,"If you can see me,
1036
01:00:12,541 --> 01:00:15,125
then you should also be able
to see them as well."
1037
01:00:19,958 --> 01:00:24,000
I wish I was there to see,
like, how he really shot.
1038
01:00:31,416 --> 01:00:32,666
Even the action moments,
1039
01:00:32,750 --> 01:00:34,666
you could tell he slowedthe shutter down a little bit
1040
01:00:34,750 --> 01:00:36,166
to get that blur.
1041
01:00:37,625 --> 01:00:39,333
You could tell his handswere so steady,
1042
01:00:39,416 --> 01:00:42,500
where he could justfocus on Ali's face,and you can see that emotion,
1043
01:00:42,583 --> 01:00:44,333
but you can see
the speed of Ali.
1044
01:00:48,333 --> 01:00:50,458
Those things that I emulatein my own photography
1045
01:00:50,541 --> 01:00:53,666
is about knowing when
to speed up that shutter speed
1046
01:00:53,750 --> 01:00:55,041
to get that locked-in focus.
1047
01:00:57,000 --> 01:00:58,875
When I was starting, I justwas always worrying about,
1048
01:00:58,958 --> 01:01:00,916
is the image clear?
Is the ISO perfect?
1049
01:01:01,000 --> 01:01:02,083
Is everything just perfect?
1050
01:01:02,166 --> 01:01:04,666
But sometimes, some ofthe most imperfect pictures
1051
01:01:04,750 --> 01:01:05,875
is how you relay that emotion,
1052
01:01:05,958 --> 01:01:08,041
and that's what I thinkhe was so good at too.
1053
01:01:11,833 --> 01:01:15,250
This image is just, like, oneof my favorite pictures of Ali.
1054
01:01:15,333 --> 01:01:17,833
The look in his eyes,you see, like that glare.
1055
01:01:17,916 --> 01:01:20,708
He's not even looking at Gordon.
He's, like, gazing off.
1056
01:01:20,791 --> 01:01:22,833
And it's just, like,
a beautiful portrait.
1057
01:01:30,041 --> 01:01:33,458
He really captured Aliat every moment.
1058
01:01:34,458 --> 01:01:36,208
You saw the goofiness of him.
1059
01:01:37,375 --> 01:01:38,791
You saw the seriousness.
1060
01:01:40,541 --> 01:01:44,000
Many of us know Muhammad Ali as
this loudmouthed boxer,
1061
01:01:44,083 --> 01:01:47,750
but Gordon brought outthe humanitarian side of him.
1062
01:01:47,833 --> 01:01:51,083
This to me talks about
the peace and serenity
1063
01:01:51,166 --> 01:01:53,791
that you get
from your spiritual discipline.
1064
01:01:55,458 --> 01:01:57,291
Muhammad Ali got a lotfrom that.
1065
01:02:01,791 --> 01:02:05,250
Even though an image
is quick, it's quick,
1066
01:02:05,333 --> 01:02:08,041
but the time you put
in with that person,
1067
01:02:08,125 --> 01:02:09,750
you can tell in the image.
1068
01:02:09,833 --> 01:02:12,500
You can tell if a person
just came in and just snapped
and then kept moving.
1069
01:02:12,583 --> 01:02:14,125
But you... if you can see
it in their eyes,
1070
01:02:14,208 --> 01:02:16,166
it was a real human connection
right there.
1071
01:02:17,458 --> 01:02:18,666
Muhammad Ali and Gordon,
1072
01:02:18,750 --> 01:02:21,666
that relationshipthat was able to build,
1073
01:02:21,750 --> 01:02:23,458
you can tell thatit was genuine,
1074
01:02:23,541 --> 01:02:25,166
and it was real,and it was authentic.
1075
01:02:31,791 --> 01:02:32,958
Switch!
1076
01:02:33,500 --> 01:02:35,125
There you go.
1077
01:02:35,208 --> 01:02:38,375
You working all that.
Give it the same.
1078
01:02:38,458 --> 01:02:40,791
Right now, I've beenfocusing on sports a lot.
1079
01:02:40,875 --> 01:02:42,500
With everythingthat's going on in my city,
1080
01:02:42,583 --> 01:02:45,375
a lot of kids are dyingbecause they're in the streets.
1081
01:02:45,458 --> 01:02:46,666
Switch.
1082
01:02:46,750 --> 01:02:48,333
So what I want to dois to change that narrative
1083
01:02:48,416 --> 01:02:50,875
around the youthand give them somethingto inspire them.
1084
01:02:50,958 --> 01:02:53,291
Change up. Where's Rico at?
1085
01:02:54,916 --> 01:02:57,208
All y'all still gotta train.
1086
01:02:57,291 --> 01:02:59,625
We havethis amazing boxing coach
1087
01:02:59,708 --> 01:03:00,958
by the name of Calvin.
1088
01:03:01,041 --> 01:03:03,541
See how fast that was?
1089
01:03:03,625 --> 01:03:06,333
I wanted to usemy photography to highlight him.
1090
01:03:07,166 --> 01:03:08,250
Box!
1091
01:03:08,958 --> 01:03:10,708
Good, no backing up.
1092
01:03:10,791 --> 01:03:12,625
Side to side. Good.
1093
01:03:14,458 --> 01:03:17,083
If Kenny tell him
to work the jab,
you work your jab.
1094
01:03:18,875 --> 01:03:20,083
There you go!
1095
01:03:20,166 --> 01:03:22,333
Whoever says work the jab,
you beat him to the punch.
1096
01:03:22,416 --> 01:03:24,375
Capturing someonegetting punched in the faceis pretty easy...
1097
01:03:24,458 --> 01:03:26,166
...but it's those
1098
01:03:26,250 --> 01:03:27,875
intimate moments,those down moments,
1099
01:03:27,958 --> 01:03:31,750
that I really, I love, like,just seeing people be human.
1100
01:03:34,833 --> 01:03:38,416
When a coach is givinga pep talk or he hugs a kid.
1101
01:03:40,291 --> 01:03:42,000
I like seeing peoplebe vulnerable.
1102
01:03:44,583 --> 01:03:47,666
I've been documentingCoach Calvin for a while now.
1103
01:03:47,750 --> 01:03:49,875
He's saving livesin West Baltimore.
1104
01:03:50,916 --> 01:03:52,333
So what I've been doing is like,
1105
01:03:52,416 --> 01:03:54,916
taking a pageout of Gordon Parks's book.
1106
01:03:55,000 --> 01:03:58,458
I've been embedding myselfat the gym with these kids,
1107
01:03:58,541 --> 01:04:01,500
and kids love imagesof themselves.
1108
01:04:01,583 --> 01:04:03,958
And that's when I really started
realizing how important
1109
01:04:04,041 --> 01:04:06,291
my imagery was to my city.
1110
01:04:06,375 --> 01:04:09,333
When your hands up,
the hands up, go to the body!
1111
01:04:09,416 --> 01:04:11,833
He ain't listening.
Oh, he listening. Okay!
1112
01:04:13,166 --> 01:04:14,416
Oh, good right hand!
1113
01:04:15,500 --> 01:04:18,000
Stop wrestling. Punch. Box!
1114
01:04:25,458 --> 01:04:27,708
"Gordon Parks's
personal history includes
1115
01:04:27,791 --> 01:04:30,666
a Kansas Farm,
a Minneapolis brothel,
1116
01:04:30,750 --> 01:04:33,750
a flophouse in Chicago,
a St. Paul jail.
1117
01:04:33,833 --> 01:04:36,833
The story of one American
who overcame loneliness,
1118
01:04:36,916 --> 01:04:38,875
the Depression, poverty,
1119
01:04:39,000 --> 01:04:41,458
and his color to find security
1120
01:04:41,541 --> 01:04:43,541
and the beginnings
of a success."
1121
01:04:43,625 --> 01:04:47,125
His book is titled
A Choice of Weapons.
1122
01:04:47,208 --> 01:04:48,458
Here is Gordon Parks.
1123
01:04:50,000 --> 01:04:53,125
By this point,he's a larger-than-life figure.
1124
01:04:53,208 --> 01:04:55,125
You know, he's anincredibly well known,
1125
01:04:55,208 --> 01:04:57,250
well respected, powerful figure.
1126
01:04:57,333 --> 01:05:01,708
Your pictures of
the story of the little boy...
1127
01:05:01,791 --> 01:05:02,958
-Flavio?
-Flavio.
1128
01:05:03,041 --> 01:05:04,375
Flavio, they pronounce it.
1129
01:05:04,458 --> 01:05:07,333
...in Rio de Janeiro
will long be remembered.
1130
01:05:12,916 --> 01:05:15,958
Gordon was askedto make an effective photo essay
1131
01:05:16,041 --> 01:05:18,250
that wouldhelp Americans understand
1132
01:05:18,333 --> 01:05:21,458
the scale of
the problem of poverty
in Latin America.
1133
01:05:21,541 --> 01:05:23,125
And here's Flavio?
1134
01:05:24,000 --> 01:05:25,333
Yes, that's Flav.
1135
01:05:25,416 --> 01:05:27,208
Oh, you got so,you called him "Flav."
1136
01:05:27,291 --> 01:05:30,208
Yes, I called him Flav.He called me Gordo.
1137
01:05:30,291 --> 01:05:34,083
I remember as a kid looking atpictures of Flavio in Brazil,
1138
01:05:34,166 --> 01:05:38,083
and it absolutely sparkedan interest in going places
1139
01:05:38,166 --> 01:05:41,041
and telling stories, and seeingthings with your own eye
1140
01:05:41,125 --> 01:05:43,041
and through your own lens.
1141
01:05:43,125 --> 01:05:46,333
I wouldn't be a reporter today
if it wasn't for Gordon Parks.
1142
01:05:47,333 --> 01:05:49,291
Those photographs would not just
1143
01:05:49,375 --> 01:05:50,958
inspire a response,
1144
01:05:51,041 --> 01:05:53,000
they saved Flavio's life.
1145
01:05:53,916 --> 01:05:55,375
Gordon actually took Flavio
1146
01:05:55,458 --> 01:05:57,958
to a doctor for the first time,and that doctor said
1147
01:05:58,041 --> 01:06:00,041
that he had
very little time left to live,
1148
01:06:00,125 --> 01:06:03,250
no more than two years and
probably much less than that.
1149
01:06:03,333 --> 01:06:04,958
Have you heardfrom him since?
1150
01:06:05,041 --> 01:06:07,458
Well, yes,
I brought him to America, uh.
1151
01:06:07,541 --> 01:06:10,250
People, many of you possiblyout there,
1152
01:06:10,333 --> 01:06:13,333
sent in money,over 100,000 dollars,
1153
01:06:13,416 --> 01:06:15,541
and demandedthat I go back and get Flavio
1154
01:06:15,625 --> 01:06:18,458
and bring himto the United Statesto be cured, which I did.
1155
01:06:18,541 --> 01:06:20,041
I brought himto the Denver Clinic.
1156
01:06:20,125 --> 01:06:21,791
All of these donationsstarted coming in,
1157
01:06:21,875 --> 01:06:25,333
and he took it upon himselfto get this child help
1158
01:06:25,416 --> 01:06:26,958
for his asthma.
1159
01:06:27,041 --> 01:06:30,375
They built a new house for them,
and, you know, it's just...
1160
01:06:31,125 --> 01:06:32,500
Who does that?
1161
01:06:39,791 --> 01:06:43,166
Will you welcome please,
Mr. Gordon Parks.
1162
01:06:43,250 --> 01:06:46,083
I think there'san interesting trade off
1163
01:06:46,166 --> 01:06:50,083
that Gordon makes
as he becomes more prominent.
1164
01:06:50,166 --> 01:06:53,916
What, looking back,
was the very first
1165
01:06:54,000 --> 01:06:56,291
photographic story
you ever covered?
1166
01:06:56,375 --> 01:06:59,083
Well, the very first
photographic story
I covered for LIFE
1167
01:06:59,166 --> 01:07:03,416
was, I think the 1948,
was the Harlem gang story.
1168
01:07:03,500 --> 01:07:08,958
He had previously been ableto observe uninterrupted,
1169
01:07:09,041 --> 01:07:10,500
you know, with his camera
1170
01:07:10,583 --> 01:07:13,083
and, you know,capture the unguarded moment.
1171
01:07:15,041 --> 01:07:18,125
To be this Negro manwith a camera,
1172
01:07:18,208 --> 01:07:21,208
you know, who's going aroundtaking images.
1173
01:07:21,291 --> 01:07:24,208
You can't quite do that,you know, when everyoneknows you,
1174
01:07:24,291 --> 01:07:26,791
where you're showing upon television.
1175
01:07:26,875 --> 01:07:29,125
We're talking
to Gordon Parks about
The Learning Tree,
1176
01:07:29,208 --> 01:07:31,250
his brilliant new novel. Poetic.
1177
01:07:32,333 --> 01:07:34,708
He has a song about it.
1178
01:07:34,791 --> 01:07:37,000
Gordon, I couldn't put it down
from the very first page,
1179
01:07:37,083 --> 01:07:39,083
and of course, the obvious
question comes first,
1180
01:07:39,166 --> 01:07:40,666
is it autobiographical?
1181
01:07:41,375 --> 01:07:43,625
Well, that's often asked, uh,
1182
01:07:43,708 --> 01:07:47,333
I have a...
I must say that it's fictional.
1183
01:07:47,416 --> 01:07:50,791
LIFE magazine calls it
"Fictional Autobiographical."
1184
01:07:50,875 --> 01:07:53,625
It's a tricky one.
But I will admit
1185
01:07:53,708 --> 01:07:55,583
that I know most of
the characters in it.
1186
01:07:55,666 --> 01:07:58,541
At this point,Gordon's personal bearing
1187
01:07:58,625 --> 01:08:01,708
begins to become much moredistinct and distinguished.
1188
01:08:03,208 --> 01:08:07,750
If celebrity was a language,
Gordon spoke it fluently.
1189
01:08:07,833 --> 01:08:09,458
Have you got anything else
in preparation?
1190
01:08:09,541 --> 01:08:11,916
Yes, I have
an autobiographical book
1191
01:08:12,000 --> 01:08:14,166
coming up for Harper's,
and a novel,
1192
01:08:14,250 --> 01:08:16,125
and there's great talk now
1193
01:08:16,208 --> 01:08:17,666
of a movie
for The Learning Tree,
1194
01:08:17,750 --> 01:08:20,875
and I will be asked
to direct that.
1195
01:08:20,958 --> 01:08:23,000
I hope certainly,
because you know it
so much better,
1196
01:08:23,083 --> 01:08:25,166
and I hope also
that they're going
to let you shoot it
1197
01:08:25,250 --> 01:08:26,541
just about in the same location.
1198
01:08:26,625 --> 01:08:29,750
We hope to go right back
to Kansas and shoot this there.
1199
01:08:35,833 --> 01:08:38,541
I think he gravitated to film
1200
01:08:38,625 --> 01:08:42,041
because he understood
the immense audience.
1201
01:08:42,791 --> 01:08:44,750
Gordon was so interested
1202
01:08:44,833 --> 01:08:47,875
in reachingas many people as possible.
1203
01:08:47,958 --> 01:08:52,166
The Learning Tree
was the first major studio film
1204
01:08:52,250 --> 01:08:54,791
directed by
an African American director.
1205
01:08:54,875 --> 01:08:57,708
So he broke tremendous groundwith the film.
1206
01:08:57,791 --> 01:08:59,166
All of these things are clues.
1207
01:08:59,250 --> 01:09:01,416
Each one should know exactly
what they're coming to do,
1208
01:09:01,500 --> 01:09:02,625
and what they're gonna do.
1209
01:09:02,708 --> 01:09:05,541
He demandedthat Black crew members
1210
01:09:05,625 --> 01:09:06,833
be around him.
1211
01:09:07,625 --> 01:09:09,583
He really lifted as he climbed.
1212
01:09:09,666 --> 01:09:12,125
With The Learning Tree,
they took
1213
01:09:12,208 --> 01:09:15,833
a thoroughly integrated
crew and cast.
1214
01:09:15,916 --> 01:09:18,416
They could work together.They could live together.
1215
01:09:18,500 --> 01:09:21,958
They created a feelingof goodwill, you might say.
1216
01:09:22,041 --> 01:09:23,583
All right,
let's shoot it now.
1217
01:09:24,708 --> 01:09:25,833
Action!
1218
01:09:25,916 --> 01:09:28,000
He was not only ableto direct the film,
1219
01:09:28,083 --> 01:09:31,375
but to, you know,play direct parts in a lot of
1220
01:09:31,458 --> 01:09:33,916
the other art practice
and disciplines
1221
01:09:34,000 --> 01:09:35,375
that went into
making the film.
1222
01:09:35,458 --> 01:09:38,416
I wrote the screenplay,I directed it,
1223
01:09:38,500 --> 01:09:40,333
I wrote the music,
1224
01:09:40,416 --> 01:09:42,791
and I produced itfor Warner Brothers.
1225
01:09:42,875 --> 01:09:45,166
Parks is kindof like the guy in the band
1226
01:09:45,250 --> 01:09:46,916
who's gonna playall the instruments.
1227
01:09:47,000 --> 01:09:51,375
That would still bea pretty uncommon thing
1228
01:09:51,458 --> 01:09:53,791
to see one person doall those things.
1229
01:09:53,875 --> 01:09:57,208
But I also think it falls intothe same sort of paradox
1230
01:09:57,791 --> 01:09:59,666
of his career,
1231
01:09:59,750 --> 01:10:02,541
which is that in order to be
the first Black person
to do something,
1232
01:10:02,625 --> 01:10:04,875
you have to be
this exceptional talent.
1233
01:10:04,958 --> 01:10:08,000
The 15thand youngest childof a Kansas farmer,
1234
01:10:08,083 --> 01:10:10,291
he told of howit was growing up
1235
01:10:10,375 --> 01:10:12,875
in his bestselling novel,
The Learning Tree.
1236
01:10:13,000 --> 01:10:16,125
And now Gordon Parkshas returned to the town
1237
01:10:16,208 --> 01:10:18,708
where he lived it.And there, made that story
1238
01:10:18,791 --> 01:10:20,083
into a motion picture.
1239
01:10:21,208 --> 01:10:22,125
♪ My baby's gone ♪
1240
01:10:22,208 --> 01:10:24,166
It is an essential film,
1241
01:10:24,250 --> 01:10:26,458
certainly in understandingthe Black cinematic canon,
1242
01:10:26,541 --> 01:10:28,750
but it should be a partof the conversation
1243
01:10:28,833 --> 01:10:31,291
as we talk aboutthe American cinematic canon.
1244
01:10:32,500 --> 01:10:34,833
And to make something
as lyrical and intimate
1245
01:10:34,916 --> 01:10:36,416
as The Learning Tree,
1246
01:10:36,500 --> 01:10:38,250
and then createa cultural phenomenon
1247
01:10:38,333 --> 01:10:40,083
like Shaft is remarkable!
1248
01:10:40,166 --> 01:10:42,041
- Now the sequence we saw
this morning...
- Right.
1249
01:10:42,125 --> 01:10:44,750
Times Square,
panned on off the skyscrapers
1250
01:10:44,833 --> 01:10:46,958
along 42nd Street
where the marquis is,
1251
01:10:47,041 --> 01:10:49,250
and when Shaft pops up out
of that subway,
1252
01:10:49,333 --> 01:10:51,458
-that's when
it should really come on.
-Right.
1253
01:10:51,541 --> 01:10:54,375
And there should be
a driving savage beat,
1254
01:10:54,458 --> 01:10:57,166
you know,
so that we'll be right
with him all the time.
1255
01:10:57,250 --> 01:10:59,958
-Mm-hmm.
-What I heard you
working on earlier
1256
01:11:00,041 --> 01:11:01,833
seems great
for that Shaft walk.
1257
01:11:01,916 --> 01:11:03,666
- Can we hear it now?
- Yeah, okay.
1258
01:11:03,750 --> 01:11:05,791
Now watch the rhythm, man.
Just let it flow, you know?
1259
01:11:05,875 --> 01:11:09,666
One, two, three, four.
1260
01:11:22,166 --> 01:11:24,583
How many detectiveshave we seen?
1261
01:11:24,666 --> 01:11:27,791
From The Maltese Falcon,
you know, all the way up.
1262
01:11:27,875 --> 01:11:30,000
We have never seen it like this.
1263
01:11:30,083 --> 01:11:32,041
- Up yours!
- Get out of the way.
1264
01:11:32,125 --> 01:11:35,625
Richard Roundtree was likethis swaggering figure.
1265
01:11:35,708 --> 01:11:38,291
As they called him back then,
the "Black James Bond."
1266
01:11:40,250 --> 01:11:41,583
I thought we were gonna get to.
1267
01:11:41,666 --> 01:11:43,333
We did, but you wanted me
to fidget.
1268
01:11:43,416 --> 01:11:45,583
I just said, "Up yours, baby."
1269
01:11:45,666 --> 01:11:48,250
The whole point of Shaft
is he wasn't part of the system,
1270
01:11:48,333 --> 01:11:50,083
that he had agency
outside of that.
1271
01:11:50,166 --> 01:11:53,208
Don't get wise with me, Shaft.
I'll put your goddamn ass in.
1272
01:11:53,291 --> 01:11:55,375
I'll sue your goddamn ass
for false arrest.
1273
01:11:55,458 --> 01:11:58,166
When Shaft interacts with
the police, he talks to them
1274
01:11:58,250 --> 01:12:01,166
the way that all Black people
wanted to talk to the police.
1275
01:12:01,250 --> 01:12:03,000
-Cool it, man.
-You cool it, boy.
1276
01:12:03,083 --> 01:12:05,500
He talked the wayhe wanted to talkto whoever he wanted to,
1277
01:12:05,583 --> 01:12:06,958
and that includedthe Black radicals,
1278
01:12:07,041 --> 01:12:08,541
that includedthe Harlem gangsters.
1279
01:12:09,666 --> 01:12:11,458
And the idea of Black power
1280
01:12:11,541 --> 01:12:13,833
became very, very popular
with younger people.
1281
01:12:13,916 --> 01:12:15,625
You were seeing thatin the streets.
1282
01:12:15,708 --> 01:12:18,083
You were seeing thatin the pop culture.
1283
01:12:18,166 --> 01:12:21,916
And it comes through his workas a photographer.
1284
01:12:22,000 --> 01:12:24,750
When you think aboutwhat was going on in the countryat that time,
1285
01:12:24,833 --> 01:12:30,000
you know, really the country was
at war in many ways with itself.
1286
01:12:30,083 --> 01:12:33,208
Shaft was the moviethat kind of mainstreamed
1287
01:12:33,291 --> 01:12:34,708
a lot of that rebellion
1288
01:12:34,791 --> 01:12:36,875
through this sort
of detective character.
1289
01:12:36,958 --> 01:12:38,000
Listen, Snow White,
1290
01:12:38,083 --> 01:12:39,791
me and you gonna tangle
sooner or later.
1291
01:12:39,875 --> 01:12:41,916
We ain't gonna do shit.
1292
01:12:42,000 --> 01:12:46,125
John Shaft representedBlack manhood.
1293
01:12:46,208 --> 01:12:49,000
We're kicking ass,
and we got the ladies too.
1294
01:12:50,791 --> 01:12:53,375
We got it covered on all sides!
1295
01:12:57,000 --> 01:12:58,625
I didn't see Shaft
until much later.
1296
01:12:58,708 --> 01:13:00,416
My mother didn't
want me watching that.
1297
01:13:00,500 --> 01:13:03,166
She thought it wasa little too risquéfor her baby.
1298
01:13:04,291 --> 01:13:06,500
He had Whiteand Black women.
1299
01:13:06,583 --> 01:13:09,000
Shaft is in a showerhaving sex with a White chick
1300
01:13:09,083 --> 01:13:10,166
he met at a bar.
1301
01:13:10,625 --> 01:13:11,916
That was, whoa.
1302
01:13:15,041 --> 01:13:16,958
I saw it on 42nd Street.
1303
01:13:17,041 --> 01:13:18,166
No noise.
1304
01:13:18,250 --> 01:13:21,583
That motherfuckin' theater
was jam packed.
1305
01:13:21,666 --> 01:13:24,833
And Black folks
were going berserk.
1306
01:13:24,916 --> 01:13:28,416
It's like, we ain't never
seen no shit like this before.
1307
01:13:28,750 --> 01:13:29,791
Open it!
1308
01:13:31,833 --> 01:13:35,041
We loved it!
Because on the screen
1309
01:13:35,125 --> 01:13:38,000
we're looking at
a Black superhero.
1310
01:13:41,000 --> 01:13:43,500
Shaft is a guy, he has
an office in Times Square.
1311
01:13:43,583 --> 01:13:45,416
He has a place in the Village,
1312
01:13:45,500 --> 01:13:48,625
but he's able to move in Harlemand other spaces as well.
1313
01:13:48,708 --> 01:13:50,250
Hey, man. What's goin' on?
1314
01:13:50,333 --> 01:13:52,375
He has a relationshipwith the policeand the authorities,
1315
01:13:52,458 --> 01:13:55,166
but he also has a relationshipwith the radical element.
1316
01:13:55,916 --> 01:13:57,416
That's Gordon!
1317
01:13:57,500 --> 01:14:00,458
And be sure, after you hit him
over the head with the bottle,
1318
01:14:00,541 --> 01:14:02,875
and you see
the blood gush out of his face,
1319
01:14:02,958 --> 01:14:06,291
that you maintain the cool
that Shaft should maintain.
1320
01:14:06,375 --> 01:14:11,041
Gordon introduced me
to Morty Sills, his tailor.
1321
01:14:11,125 --> 01:14:16,666
He says, um, "He will put itall together for you."
1322
01:14:18,875 --> 01:14:22,041
He never told me this,and it was only years after
1323
01:14:22,125 --> 01:14:24,916
that I looked back on it
in retrospect,
1324
01:14:25,000 --> 01:14:27,166
it was Gordon Parks.
1325
01:14:27,250 --> 01:14:30,083
Gentlemen, do your scene
as you did it in the master.
1326
01:14:30,166 --> 01:14:32,041
No mistakes,
because this is the type
1327
01:14:32,125 --> 01:14:33,958
we don't like to retake.
1328
01:14:34,041 --> 01:14:35,458
The swaggering guy
1329
01:14:35,541 --> 01:14:39,166
with that black leather jacket,which became an icon.
1330
01:14:39,250 --> 01:14:42,416
This was Gordon's
other personality.
1331
01:14:44,125 --> 01:14:45,333
That was beautiful, sweetheart.
1332
01:14:47,208 --> 01:14:49,375
The movie was a critical success
1333
01:14:49,458 --> 01:14:50,791
and a box office success.
1334
01:14:51,875 --> 01:14:53,833
It won an Oscarfor Isaac Hayes's
1335
01:14:53,916 --> 01:14:56,166
extraordinarysong for the opening credits.
1336
01:14:59,041 --> 01:15:01,125
It literally set into motionthe idea that
1337
01:15:01,208 --> 01:15:04,083
if you make Black films,
people will come and see them.
1338
01:15:06,958 --> 01:15:08,666
Shaft is back!
1339
01:15:10,166 --> 01:15:11,333
Drop the guns and freeze!
1340
01:15:11,416 --> 01:15:15,166
He's super hood,super high, super dude,
1341
01:15:15,833 --> 01:15:16,958
super fly.
1342
01:15:17,041 --> 01:15:18,708
The arrivalof Blaxploitation
1343
01:15:18,791 --> 01:15:21,500
really shored upHollywood's fortunes.
1344
01:15:21,583 --> 01:15:23,416
Those films were
inexpensive to make
1345
01:15:23,500 --> 01:15:26,416
and guaranteed
really significant box offices.
1346
01:15:26,500 --> 01:15:29,375
-Don't crowd me, boy.
-You better put that down
before I make you eat it.
1347
01:15:31,208 --> 01:15:32,708
But after beingkind of a source
1348
01:15:32,791 --> 01:15:36,000
of a great deal of revenue,there wasn't anythingbeyond that.
1349
01:15:37,000 --> 01:15:40,000
Very few times would
the story deviate
1350
01:15:40,083 --> 01:15:42,875
from the same old,
same old thing.
1351
01:15:42,958 --> 01:15:46,708
And eventually,the Black audience got tired
1352
01:15:46,791 --> 01:15:48,708
and the genre died out because
1353
01:15:48,791 --> 01:15:51,291
they went to the well
way too often.
1354
01:15:54,833 --> 01:15:58,291
That whole wave of Black film,
that Gordon helped create,
1355
01:15:58,375 --> 01:16:01,125
crested, and Hollywood moved on.
1356
01:16:03,041 --> 01:16:05,250
When Blaxploitation beganto fade out,
1357
01:16:05,333 --> 01:16:08,791
there was no avenue to say,"Okay, we want Gordon Parks
1358
01:16:08,875 --> 01:16:12,000
to directthis World War II epic."
1359
01:16:12,083 --> 01:16:15,333
Or like any of the kind
of natural progressions
1360
01:16:15,416 --> 01:16:17,416
that you would've seen,
especially kind of the heyday
1361
01:16:17,500 --> 01:16:20,291
of the 1970s American director.
1362
01:16:20,375 --> 01:16:22,416
You don't see himget entrée into that.
1363
01:16:25,416 --> 01:16:27,250
I've never been offeredsome of the films
1364
01:16:27,333 --> 01:16:29,583
that would have been offeredto me had I been White.
1365
01:16:29,666 --> 01:16:31,500
Let's put itvery simply like that.
1366
01:16:36,083 --> 01:16:38,458
He really wantedto keep on being a director,
1367
01:16:38,541 --> 01:16:41,541
but nobody asked him anymore.That grieved him a lot.
1368
01:16:43,958 --> 01:16:47,958
He had not achieved what
he wanted to in the movie world.
1369
01:16:50,583 --> 01:16:53,458
No matter who you are,as an artist,
1370
01:16:53,541 --> 01:16:57,458
and you're not ableto expand and grow,
1371
01:16:57,541 --> 01:16:59,041
it's gonna hurt your soul.
1372
01:16:59,125 --> 01:17:01,000
Because your soul is what...
1373
01:17:02,208 --> 01:17:03,416
is what your art is.
1374
01:17:06,875 --> 01:17:09,250
He was not a comfortable fit.
1375
01:17:09,333 --> 01:17:11,791
While he had been ableto walk a tightrope
1376
01:17:11,875 --> 01:17:12,958
at LIFE magazine,
1377
01:17:13,041 --> 01:17:15,500
he couldn't quitewalk the tightrope in Hollywood.
1378
01:17:17,500 --> 01:17:20,250
So it was
a brief meteoric career,
1379
01:17:20,333 --> 01:17:21,666
and then it was all over.
1380
01:17:24,416 --> 01:17:27,208
Of course, Hollywoodhas changed from the late '60s,
1381
01:17:27,291 --> 01:17:29,208
when he started making films,
1382
01:17:29,291 --> 01:17:32,166
but it's changed
because he changed it, you know.
1383
01:17:32,250 --> 01:17:35,083
It's changed because, you know,
he opened the door.
1384
01:17:41,583 --> 01:17:44,750
All the years
that I knew Gordon,
1385
01:17:44,833 --> 01:17:46,958
over 20 years
that I worked with him...
1386
01:17:48,500 --> 01:17:51,375
the next projectis what was important.
1387
01:17:51,458 --> 01:17:54,250
How was this going
to affect the future?
1388
01:17:54,333 --> 01:17:55,708
And that's where
he wanted to go.
1389
01:17:55,791 --> 01:17:57,666
He was always moving forward.
1390
01:17:57,750 --> 01:18:01,166
I want to compose more.I want to compose differently.
1391
01:18:01,250 --> 01:18:03,791
I want to write more.I want to write differently.
1392
01:18:03,875 --> 01:18:07,041
This all takes time,and I know I don't have
1393
01:18:07,125 --> 01:18:08,333
that much time.
1394
01:18:09,541 --> 01:18:11,250
He would stay upuntil, you know,
1395
01:18:11,333 --> 01:18:12,750
six o'clock
in the morning, typing.
1396
01:18:12,833 --> 01:18:14,291
I remember when
I would stay with him,
1397
01:18:14,375 --> 01:18:16,458
just hearingthe typewriter going,
1398
01:18:16,541 --> 01:18:19,625
like, he justnever stopped working.
1399
01:18:19,708 --> 01:18:21,875
Being creativewas just something
1400
01:18:21,958 --> 01:18:23,291
he couldn't help doing.
1401
01:18:24,875 --> 01:18:27,791
He just hadthis drive to work all the time.
1402
01:18:27,875 --> 01:18:30,291
Expression of his talent
was his religion.
1403
01:18:32,791 --> 01:18:37,250
At 85, I really feelthat I'm just ready to start.
1404
01:18:40,750 --> 01:18:43,708
I met him at the Leica Galleryin the '90s.
1405
01:18:43,791 --> 01:18:46,833
I had just hada really difficult day at jail
1406
01:18:46,916 --> 01:18:49,375
where a young man
tried to kill himself.
1407
01:18:49,458 --> 01:18:51,416
You know,
like maybe two hours earlier,
1408
01:18:51,500 --> 01:18:53,250
and now I'm at an opening.
1409
01:18:53,333 --> 01:18:57,291
I was downstairs about to leave,and Gordon had come down.
1410
01:18:58,666 --> 01:19:00,916
And I asked him, you know,with all due respect, sir,
1411
01:19:01,000 --> 01:19:03,250
may I take a photograph of you?
1412
01:19:03,333 --> 01:19:06,583
And he hada really bad toothache,and he couldn't speak.
1413
01:19:06,666 --> 01:19:08,750
He looked me in my eyes,and he raised his right hand,
1414
01:19:08,833 --> 01:19:12,333
and he shook his fistabout three timesas he looked at me.
1415
01:19:12,416 --> 01:19:15,458
He must have sawthe pain inside meat that point.
1416
01:19:15,541 --> 01:19:17,625
Through his body language,
he let me know that
1417
01:19:17,708 --> 01:19:19,291
you are in a sense,
1418
01:19:19,375 --> 01:19:21,458
carry on that torch, like,
hang in there.
1419
01:19:25,750 --> 01:19:28,791
I had friends who knew him,so I was able to be around him.
1420
01:19:29,916 --> 01:19:32,166
He wasn't just a guywho photojournalists knew
1421
01:19:32,250 --> 01:19:35,125
or other peoplein the photo art world knew.
1422
01:19:35,208 --> 01:19:39,166
Gordon was able to leap out
of the world of photography
1423
01:19:39,250 --> 01:19:41,083
into the world
of popular culture.
1424
01:19:45,875 --> 01:19:48,583
In the summer of 1998,
1425
01:19:48,666 --> 01:19:52,250
XXL magazine, which was then
a fledgling hip-hop magazine,
1426
01:19:52,333 --> 01:19:54,500
decided to do
a photograph reenacting
1427
01:19:54,583 --> 01:19:57,833
the Great Day in Harlem photo
that he had taken in '58.
1428
01:20:00,458 --> 01:20:03,166
But the big deal was,who was going to shoot it?
1429
01:20:03,250 --> 01:20:05,750
And they were desperately tryingto get Gordon,
1430
01:20:05,833 --> 01:20:07,250
and he finally agreed to do it.
1431
01:20:13,125 --> 01:20:17,166
And him doing that photo made
the photo really important.
1432
01:20:17,250 --> 01:20:19,083
Legendary, legendary.
1433
01:20:19,166 --> 01:20:20,541
Connectingthe generations
1434
01:20:20,625 --> 01:20:22,541
between the hip-hop worldand the jazz world.
1435
01:20:22,625 --> 01:20:25,125
I watched footage onthe Great Day in Harlem
1436
01:20:25,208 --> 01:20:27,000
and what that meant
to them, man.
1437
01:20:27,083 --> 01:20:29,166
And how Thelonious Monk
came down.
1438
01:20:29,250 --> 01:20:31,875
And then, I mean, yo,
it means something to me.
1439
01:20:37,041 --> 01:20:38,625
I came out to do my part,
1440
01:20:38,708 --> 01:20:40,625
to represent my culture,
you know what I mean.
1441
01:20:40,708 --> 01:20:42,958
A wide range of artistsall say part of the reason
1442
01:20:43,041 --> 01:20:44,750
for being therewas Gordon Parks.
1443
01:20:44,833 --> 01:20:47,375
When they called, I said,
"Yo, who's doing it man?"
I had to be here man.
1444
01:20:47,458 --> 01:20:50,375
Hip-hop was notthe number one pop culturein '98.
1445
01:20:50,458 --> 01:20:53,291
So for Gordon to be there,for them was a validation.
1446
01:20:53,375 --> 01:20:55,083
There's timeswhen he walks up...
1447
01:20:55,166 --> 01:20:57,250
...to try and move people aroundduring the photoshoot,
1448
01:20:57,333 --> 01:21:00,500
and people are applauding
because he's there.
1449
01:21:00,583 --> 01:21:02,291
I thinkhe was really touched by that.
1450
01:21:02,375 --> 01:21:04,041
And when he got readyto get in the car,
1451
01:21:04,125 --> 01:21:05,166
he was like...
1452
01:21:05,250 --> 01:21:06,791
I mean,
I was right behind him and I'm,
1453
01:21:06,875 --> 01:21:08,708
"Get in the car, man.
Quit fuckin' around."
1454
01:21:28,791 --> 01:21:31,625
Zion,
go to your papa's shoulder.
1455
01:21:31,708 --> 01:21:32,958
Stand by him.
1456
01:21:33,041 --> 01:21:35,166
- Me?
- You're taking
a portrait with me.
1457
01:21:35,250 --> 01:21:38,000
Lights, camera, action!
1458
01:21:38,083 --> 01:21:40,041
So, here, let me show you.
1459
01:21:40,125 --> 01:21:43,958
So wrap your arm around,
and don't be stiff.
1460
01:21:44,041 --> 01:21:46,916
Come on. This is the shot.
This is an important shot.
1461
01:21:47,000 --> 01:21:49,166
- Yeah.
- Because I don't have
this one, okay?
1462
01:21:49,250 --> 01:21:53,041
What Gordon Parks'slegacy in life has showed me
1463
01:21:53,125 --> 01:21:56,041
is that I amvisually representing people
1464
01:21:56,125 --> 01:21:59,791
like how a lawyer
represents the plaintiff
1465
01:21:59,875 --> 01:22:03,541
and their client, right.
And that is a real fight.
1466
01:22:05,583 --> 01:22:07,666
Do you always wear your glasses?
1467
01:22:07,750 --> 01:22:09,250
I see better without them.
1468
01:22:09,333 --> 01:22:12,500
Oh, yeah.
Look at those eyes.
All right, Mr. Smiley.
1469
01:22:13,125 --> 01:22:14,625
These aren't projects.
1470
01:22:14,708 --> 01:22:18,666
There is real blood depending onthat work circulating,
1471
01:22:18,750 --> 01:22:20,541
and being out in the world.
1472
01:22:20,625 --> 01:22:24,375
I get to tell this narrative
nobody wanted to tell.
1473
01:22:24,458 --> 01:22:27,208
So Zion, you're going
to be focused and concentrating
1474
01:22:27,291 --> 01:22:28,583
on me and the lens.
1475
01:22:28,666 --> 01:22:32,166
And I want you to be like,
you know, proud.
1476
01:22:32,250 --> 01:22:34,083
Bring your chin down
just a little bit.
1477
01:22:38,958 --> 01:22:42,416
I think it's importantto create this visual narrative
1478
01:22:42,500 --> 01:22:46,041
that pays homageto Gordon's legacy
1479
01:22:46,125 --> 01:22:47,875
of understanding how to take
1480
01:22:47,958 --> 01:22:50,875
the trauma
behind institutional racism,
1481
01:22:50,958 --> 01:22:54,000
or constantly being
under siege in America
1482
01:22:54,083 --> 01:22:55,250
because you're Black,
1483
01:22:55,333 --> 01:22:58,750
and convey that to a viewerwith an evocative feeling.
1484
01:23:13,416 --> 01:23:16,208
Looking at Gordon Parks'sphotographs today,
1485
01:23:16,291 --> 01:23:19,333
what's incredible about themis that they're timeless.
1486
01:23:19,416 --> 01:23:22,250
They're as relevant today
as they were, you know,
1487
01:23:22,333 --> 01:23:24,375
thirty, 40, 50 years ago.
1488
01:23:24,458 --> 01:23:26,791
He's createdthis catalogue of images
1489
01:23:26,875 --> 01:23:29,916
that today now tellan important story
1490
01:23:30,000 --> 01:23:32,333
that we're stilltrying to understand,
1491
01:23:32,416 --> 01:23:36,083
and if we're willing
to look at that story,
we'll gain an appreciation
1492
01:23:36,166 --> 01:23:39,250
of some truths that we've been
slow to recognize.
1493
01:23:41,125 --> 01:23:44,833
Gordon resonatesbecause life
1494
01:23:44,916 --> 01:23:51,083
has continually reminded us
of things that he tried
to tell us.
1495
01:23:52,541 --> 01:23:55,083
We have seen in Minneapolis,
1496
01:23:55,166 --> 01:23:57,208
you know, a city that Gordon
had personal connection to,
1497
01:23:57,291 --> 01:23:59,333
there's a high school
named for him there,
1498
01:23:59,416 --> 01:24:02,583
the most brutal depictionsof racism.
1499
01:24:04,500 --> 01:24:06,833
And you know, we've seen
1500
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just how crucialimages are to us
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understanding our own humanity.
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I don't thinkthat we really get to understand
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the world that we operate in
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in the same way
that we understand it now
without Gordon.
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His influenceis now legendary.
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And I think it'sbecause he represented something
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that was both
dynamic in its own time
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and years ahead of its time.
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When you look at him
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and the many disciplinesand tools he was using.
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Photography,
he was writing books,
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he was making movies.
I mean, he was doing it all.
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That kind of gave mepermission to think,
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you can do more.
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As a photographerand as photographers,
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I think that wehave a responsibility
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to kind of, like, lend our voice
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and use our cameras as weapons
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to counterbalance a lot
that's going on out there.
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You know, so like Gordon,
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what I'm just trying to do now
is offer a counter narrative
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to a lot of the negative images
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that we areso accustomed to seeing.
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Of course, the photographs
can make a difference.
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What Parks reminds us is
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that the price of liberty
is eternal vigilance.
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That vigilance only comesfrom a visual way
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of understanding whatwe're experiencing
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and what needsto be confronted.
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And I think
contemporary photographers
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are really standing
on his shoulders
when they do that.
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When you think aboutGordon Parks and his legacy,
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yes, we love the work,this is our passion,
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but it's also aboutthe people you touch
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and how we change their lives
using this art form
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to bring people together.
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When I'mshooting images of people,
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I will see a Gordon Parks image,and I'll know
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that I'm making that portrait
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that's in conversation
with all of that legacy.
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Whenever I get lost,or stumble, or trip,
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I'll never tire
of always looking to Gordon.
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