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- Man...
- We were waiting for you.
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I'm happy you're here.
I'm happy all of you are here.
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I have so much to tell you.
You're comfortable?
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You can talk back to me.
I want you guys to feel that.
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This only works if we feel like family.
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I know the camera's here
and it's a whole thing.
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It's a big night,
it's a lot of pressure.
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That kinda thing, you know?
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I want you guys to feel
as comfortable as I hope to be.
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We got a lot of shit to talk about.
I'm happy you're here.
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I need you.
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I wanna talk about secrets!
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Secrets! I should whisper it, right?
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I carried a lot of secrets
my whole life.
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I feel like I was birthed into them.
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One of my biggest, one of my last
held secrets is my name.
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My name is not Jerrod.
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Welcome to the show, everybody.
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I thought we were being honest
tonight.
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Jerrod's my middle name.
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I was given the name Jerrod
by my brother, Joe.
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He's, like, seven years older than me.
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They just trusted a kid to name a kid,
but whatever.
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I'm thankful for that.
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Without him I'd have to go
by my real name, my first name,
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which we don't talk about.
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It is not good.
I don't like it.
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I've always hated that name,
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no one calls me that
except for my mom.
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My dad named me...
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He combined his dad's first name
and my mom's dad's first name
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and mushed them together.
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Not to make something elegant,
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like William Edward
or something like that.
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It's more like Toyotathon.
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I hate that name. I've hidden
that name my whole life.
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I used to get it removed
from the yearbook.
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Every year in high school
I would bribe somebody.
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It'd cost me 20 dollars
to get my first name taken out of it.
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I never let people see
my driver's license.
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I had it taken off my bank cards.
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I've always been ashamed of it.
I've always hidden it.
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And it's funny because it's a name
given to me to honor two people.
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It's supposed to be this gift
to both my granddads.
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And it almost seemed kind
of fucked up that I hide that,
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that I like tuck it away,
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but that's because
you don't know my grandfathers.
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If you knew them,
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you'd know keeping a secret
is the only way to honor them.
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That's kind of who they were.
They were granddads.
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I'm named after two men who
most of their lives,
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most of their sex lives
at least were secrets.
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My mom's dad had four kids
with my mom's mom,
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his wife,
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and four kids outside
of that marriage,
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just kind of scattered about.
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My dad's dad had five kids
with his wife
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and about 23 outside of the marriage.
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Yeah. I come from a long line
of cool niggers.
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23. Dillon, South Carolina.
Jim Gowens is his name.
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We don't have the same last name
because my dad was an outside kid.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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There's no easy way to say your
grandma was a side piece.
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I wanna say it was something else.
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They'd prefer I used terms
like "affair" and whatever,
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but nah, that's not what it was.
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She was fuckin' a married nigger
and that's just...
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So my grandma had three kids
by a married man,
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my uncle Pete,
my dad, my aunt Nell,
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and his wife found out
and confronted my grandma about it.
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I like to think it was
on some "Color Purple" shit,
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like she crossed the field
or whatever.
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But she confronted my grandma
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and demanded that she stop
sleeping with her man,
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and my grandma fucked him again
and had my Aunt Cat.
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I think she's where
I get my ambition from.
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My aunt Cat is proud of that,
by the way.
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She'll tell everybody her origin story.
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She's like: "Don't nobody tell me
who to sleep with."
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"And then she fucked him again
and had me out of spite."
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"That's me, I'm the spite baby."
She loves that shit.
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But we don't really talk about it.
We don't really talk about it.
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My dad doesn't really know his dad,
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but he still felt enough pride
to name me after him.
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My mom's dad was also like a cheater,
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but she lived in the house
that he was cheating from.
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And so when you're that family,
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you learn not to say shit.
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My mom, I guess,
learned from her mom.
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I'm trying to paint a picture
of a world before Destiny's Child,
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where women got cheated on
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and it didn't play out
like a Terry McMillan novel.
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It was much more quiet than that.
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They just kind of existed
with the secret.
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They knew, but they didn't know.
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It's weird,
it's like generations of that,
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generations of just seeing things,
not seeing things.
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I saw my parents' sex tape.
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This is kind of a side tangent.
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I was about twelve years old.
I came home from school early.
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I would watch my dad...
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If you got a dad or an older brother,
they might've had a porn stash.
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This was the '90s. My dad kept
his tapes in a Nike box
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in the bedroom closet
on the top shelf,
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beside a gun and a jar of nickels.
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And I remember putting this tape in,
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and it was about 15 seconds before
I started recognizing the bedroom.
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I know those sheets,
they got lemons on them.
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But that's the thing,
I never told my family.
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I never told my parents
that I'd seen that.
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It's odd because
it's one of those things...
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You can't talk about sex
with your parents,
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not that anybody really wants to,
but you just can't.
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And you're only here because
your parents fucked,
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isn't that kinda funny?
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Your dad came in your mom
and you're here.
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Have you ever been watching
a movie with your parents
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and a sex scene came on
and you just gotta be, like,
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"nope, no it's not".
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Things that exist, but don't exist.
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It's things that are right there,
hiding in plain sight.
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My father had me and my brother
with my mom,
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and then he had four kids
with a bitch named Raneta.
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It's not that I hate her name.
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It's just that it sounds like a villain
in a Tyler Perry movie.
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And other kids, he had other kids.
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My dad was,
he was really out there, man.
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He was really, really out there.
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And I knew about it since I was a kid.
It was a small town,
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and it's a secret that he thought
he was keeping from the family.
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He thought he was doing a good job
keeping the secret.
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But I found out.
I never told him that I knew.
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My brother found out.
He didn't tell him.
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It's funny to live in a house with
someone knowing who they are,
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knowing that they're cheating
on your mom
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and not saying anything to him.
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He used to go out on Friday nights,
he would say he was going to work.
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My dad is a truck driver,
which by the way,
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if you're cheating on your wife and
you're looking for a profession
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that allows...
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... just long blackout dates,
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get your CDLs and hit the road.
I really recommend it.
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He would say he was going
to a second job on Friday nights,
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but he would get dressed up,
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and I mean dressed up
by North Carolina dad standards.
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He tucked his t-shirt into his jeans.
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He would say he was going
to work with cologne on.
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Do you understand what I'm saying?
It's just, like, a liar.
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And it would just leave me
as a kid knowing that...
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It's weird to know it, to know,
to really, really know,
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and not say anything.
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I was scared.
I didn't know what to say.
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I don't know what I could've done.
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I don't know if I would've said
anything if I had the courage,
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because I only saw this secret
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as something that could've torn
our family apart.
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If my mom found out,
I thought it would be over.
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He was fucking my homeboy TJ's aunt.
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This was this story TJ told me about,
and that's hard
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because TJ,
he didn't want to snitch.
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In the hood...
I didn't wanna snitch!
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He told me, he was like: "Man, I came
home from school the other day"
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"and I went to my aunt's house"
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"and your pop was just there
on the couch."
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What?
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He's like: "Yeah, yeah, yeah,
he was just on the couch."
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He saw my dad sitting on the couch.
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He walks in,
he's excited to see my dad.
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He knows my dad very well,
they used to play Madden together.
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He knows him.
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He's like: "Mr. Carmichael,
what are you doing here?"
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And my dad, being caught, under
pressure, you know what he did?
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He just squinted his eyes
and pretended he was somebody else.
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I don't know how
that was supposed to work.
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He literally was just like:
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"Mr. Carmichael? I don't know
who you're talking about."
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He just grabbed his shit
and got the fuck outta there.
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My father.
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And TJ was there with his aunt and
he said: "Do you know who that was?"
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"That's my best friend's dad.
That's Joe Carmichael."
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And she said: "Joe Carmichael?"
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"He told me his name was Jerry Rice."
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That's right, that's right.
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My father was telling bitches
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his name was Hall of Fame
wide receiver Jerry Rice.
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Do you know how absurd that is?
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And I got so many questions,
things he won't talk about.
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Did you say it?
Did you act surprised?
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"Did you go: What? There's another
Jerry Rice?"
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Was it all part of the game?
Did he go:
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"Yeah, my name is Jerry Rice.
I know. I get it all the time."
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How did he react?
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He was a wild man, he was really out
there, really, really out there,
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just holding it in,
just holding it all in.
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He had a double
or triple bypass surgery,
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I guess that's where it went.
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It's fine. I'm paying
for his health insurance.
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Don't groan for the man.
I'm keeping him alive right now.
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I made him tell my mom.
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It became too much.
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It's a secret that I think I was
happy keeping as a child
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because I thought it made sense
for the family,
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but then it was embarrassing,
first of all.
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Because people knew.
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It seems like everyone knew,
but my mom,
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and that's really tough
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because my mom is a very sweet,
loving, trusting,
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Christian, God-fearing woman,
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who was just standing by her man,
trusting her husband.
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And my dad was just, you know,
he was really out there.
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I got really drunk in London
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and I was like: "It's time."
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"I'm gonna confront him about it."
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And it's hard. This was hard
because this is a tough man.
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Again, he kept a sawed-off shotgun
in the closet by the porn,
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and it's not easy.
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It's not easy.
I was really afraid,
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but I remember starting
the call saying:
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"Listen, this will all go well as long
as you don't lie to me."
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And I was just almost in tears
and just so emotional.
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"I know about everything, man.
I know about Renita,"
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"and the kids, and the blah blah blah,"
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You know what he said?
He actually said:
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"I always knew you'd be the one."
That's what he said. He knew.
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So I made him tell my mom.
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He waited until I was back home
in North Carolina to tell her,
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fucking pussy.
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I know, that's a pussy thing to do,
right? He waited.
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He needed the support.
He waited until I was home.
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And this was his big plan
to tell my mom.
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He was like: "Okay, so you and your
brother, you take her out to dinner."
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"I'm gonna stay home. And then
you bring her back from dinner."
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"You drop her off, she'll come in the
house, and then I'm gonna tell her."
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And I was like: "Okay, you want me
to hide a gun behind the toilet, too?"
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"What kinda Godfather plan is this?"
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But I went along with it.
It took a lot for him.
237
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That dinner was the worst dinner
I've ever had in my entire life.
238
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I took my mom
to a hibachi restaurant.
239
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Earlier that day, I had taken my nieces
to see the "Trolls" movie.
240
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I love going to the movies
with my nieces. It's the best.
241
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They're not my kids so I can just get
high and do fun shit with them,
242
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it's the best.
243
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And we'd seen the "Trolls" movie,
244
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and I don't know if you've seen it,
spoiler alert.
245
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The premise is that these are these
colorful trolls that are singing
246
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and all types of shit,
247
00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:53,200
and if something devastating
happens to them,
248
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they lose all of their color.
249
00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:57,319
I remember thinking
that the whole dinner,
250
00:19:57,400 --> 00:20:01,480
that whole night is just looking at my
mom, just looking in her eyes going:
251
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"She's going to lose her color."
252
00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:06,400
It was really, really scary.
253
00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:09,599
Mind you, all of this happened
at a hibachi grill,
254
00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:12,799
so I'm looking in her eyes,
but there's a flame
255
00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:14,799
and we gotta clap every couple minutes.
256
00:20:15,759 --> 00:20:17,680
He's juggling salt and pepper shakers.
257
00:20:17,759 --> 00:20:20,680
"Yay, okay. My mom is about
to be fucking destroyed,"
258
00:20:20,759 --> 00:20:22,599
"but this is a great trick."
259
00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:30,319
I get mad when
I don't get a Japanese chef.
260
00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:33,519
Sometimes they're Mexican
and they're just passing them off as...
261
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Anyway.
262
00:20:36,559 --> 00:20:39,079
How many Japanese chefs
are there in North Carolina?
263
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I'm piecing this together now.
264
00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:52,319
I brought her home.
I dropped her off.
265
00:20:53,599 --> 00:20:55,039
I went to my brother's house,
266
00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:59,519
and we waited by the phone
very, very anxiously,
267
00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:05,519
me, my brother, and sister-in-law
just waited, very nervous.
268
00:21:10,039 --> 00:21:11,559
And then my mom called.
269
00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:16,440
I could hear in her voice
that she'd been crying.
270
00:21:16,519 --> 00:21:21,880
And I'll never forget,
her first words were:
271
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"I'm okay."
272
00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:30,480
And he told her,
begged for her forgiveness.
273
00:21:30,559 --> 00:21:33,640
She forgave him, she stayed.
274
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It's kinda anti-climactic, I know.
275
00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:44,079
She actually made him breakfast
the next morning.
276
00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:45,440
I'll never forget that fact.
277
00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:48,480
And mostly because
it's an embarrassing fact to admit.
278
00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:53,359
It's not how I thought
the story would play out.
279
00:21:54,799 --> 00:21:56,000
It's somehow worse.
280
00:22:00,079 --> 00:22:01,559
But it was out in the open.
281
00:22:03,079 --> 00:22:08,759
And once that was done, I was left
alone feeling like a liar
282
00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:12,440
because I had a secret,
283
00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:17,519
one that I kept from my mother,
and my father, and my family,
284
00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:19,599
my friends,
285
00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:23,920
and you, all of you,
286
00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:27,759
professionally, personally.
287
00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:34,119
And the secret is that I'm gay.
288
00:22:47,759 --> 00:22:49,119
Thank you for that.
289
00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:52,519
- We love you.
- That's very sweet.
290
00:22:52,599 --> 00:22:56,960
I really appreciate that.
It means a lot.
291
00:22:57,039 --> 00:22:59,880
And I'm accepting the love,
I really appreciate the love.
292
00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:07,000
My, kind of, ego wants
to rebel against it,
293
00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:11,160
You clap and you're very sweet
and you're very kind,
294
00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:12,720
and I appreciate it.
295
00:23:14,079 --> 00:23:16,240
Part of me wants to be like:
"I'm fucking gay."
296
00:23:16,319 --> 00:23:17,920
"I'm not fucking retarded."
297
00:23:23,039 --> 00:23:25,680
Because I can feel it, bro.
I can feel it.
298
00:23:25,759 --> 00:23:27,759
There's a lot that happens
coming out.
299
00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:33,359
I'm telling you guys and I see
the Yankee fitteds.
300
00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:37,559
Some of y'all are just like:
"Shit, we at a gay show, bro?"
301
00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:42,799
This is for HBO.
302
00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:46,319
You know how many niggers
just turned the TV off
303
00:23:48,759 --> 00:23:52,079
saying to their girl right now
"we gotta watch something else"?
304
00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:54,200
Like, y'all clapped.
A lot of you clapped and you felt it.
305
00:23:54,279 --> 00:23:56,880
Some of you didn't really wanna clap.
You were just like:
306
00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:59,640
"We gotta do that shit. We're
in New York and there's cameras."
307
00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:03,319
That's okay, I get it.
308
00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:05,000
I came out to my friends.
309
00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:07,559
We love you.
310
00:24:15,079 --> 00:24:17,920
I wanna accept that, you know?
311
00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:19,440
It feels like I didn't earn it.
312
00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:26,119
It's like, what did I do,
suck a Dominican dude's dick?
313
00:24:28,519 --> 00:24:31,119
And then y'all clapped for that,
you know?
314
00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:36,319
Because I rebelled against that.
I really did, bro,
315
00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:38,000
I rebelled against it my whole life.
316
00:24:38,079 --> 00:24:40,160
I never thought I'd come out.
317
00:24:40,839 --> 00:24:43,160
I didn't think I'd ever,
ever, ever come out.
318
00:24:44,799 --> 00:24:48,880
Probably at many points in my life
I thought I'd rather die
319
00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:51,240
than confront the truth of that.
320
00:24:51,319 --> 00:24:53,160
I didn't actually say it to people,
321
00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:58,480
because I know it changes people's,
some people,
322
00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:01,799
it changes their perception of me.
I can't control that.
323
00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:10,079
I'm from an environment where
I was, kind of, raised to be a man,
324
00:25:14,519 --> 00:25:15,880
whatever that means.
325
00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:19,519
Didn't expect gay babies,
you know what I'm saying?
326
00:25:23,559 --> 00:25:27,839
You don't see old ladies looking
at a toddler being, like:
327
00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:30,240
"Look at his cheeks.
I bet he's gonna be a top."
328
00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:37,759
"Get that baby some prep now."
329
00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:48,119
I feel you, bro. I'm with you.
330
00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:50,720
I'm from the hood.
Sometimes I'll be in the shower like:
331
00:25:50,799 --> 00:25:56,079
"Nigger, I'm really gay.
Fuck, dude!"
332
00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:04,799
You know?
Shit is shocking to me, too.
333
00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:10,680
I didn't know. It's fucked up
all my relationships.
334
00:26:10,759 --> 00:26:13,680
I had a boyfriend, me and that nigga
talked to each other like men.
335
00:26:16,559 --> 00:26:19,079
We'd say shit like:
"I wanna suck your dick, bro."
336
00:26:20,559 --> 00:26:23,599
None of that gay shit over here.
Sometimes we're making out
337
00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:26,319
and just whispering "no homo"
to each other.
338
00:26:28,079 --> 00:26:31,279
Just tonguing that nigger down
being, like, "pause".
339
00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:37,359
I feel you.
340
00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:40,599
I got mostly straight friends.
341
00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:42,440
Them niggers didn't wanna hear
that shit.
342
00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:46,599
My homeboy, Jamar, said...
This is one of my best friends.
343
00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:50,920
I let him sleep on my couch
when he needed it.
344
00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:53,279
I was always there for him.
345
00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:57,160
He told me he felt like he was tricked
into having a gay best friend.
346
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:03,039
He said: "I would've never signed up
for this."
347
00:27:05,799 --> 00:27:08,599
And I said: "Nigger,
you owe me 85 000 dollars."
348
00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:25,359
Gotta accept the love, man.
I need the love. I need it.
349
00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:35,160
I was really out here lying, though.
350
00:27:37,839 --> 00:27:41,519
That's the thing, I came out too late,
a little too late.
351
00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:44,359
That "it gets better shit
is for the kids".
352
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:48,559
That's not for an adult man figuring
himself out. They don't want that.
353
00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:52,039
Nobody wants that shit. All my friends
felt like I was just duplicitous,
354
00:27:52,519 --> 00:27:55,599
like I was just lying to them.
They didn't know who I was.
355
00:27:56,039 --> 00:27:58,519
They all reacted like Sally Field
in "Mrs. Doubtfire".
356
00:27:58,599 --> 00:28:05,240
They were like: "The whole time?"
They were very mad about that shit.
357
00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:12,759
It cleared up my relationship
with all my Black homegirls.
358
00:28:14,519 --> 00:28:18,839
My friend Ashley told me before
I came out she could sense it.
359
00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:23,079
She was like: "Please just tell me
you're gay so this all makes sense."
360
00:28:24,799 --> 00:28:27,599
I guess there are only so many times
you can Facetime a woman to see
361
00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:29,200
if your outfit looks okay
362
00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:33,759
before they start having some
questions.
363
00:28:33,839 --> 00:28:35,680
They were the toughest.
364
00:28:35,759 --> 00:28:38,640
Black women were the toughest
people to come out to,
365
00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:40,720
but also the most supportive.
366
00:28:41,799 --> 00:28:46,759
I'm very, very thankful for all
of the Black ladies in my life
367
00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:49,000
who have supported me through that,
368
00:28:50,279 --> 00:28:52,720
through all of it, all of it.
369
00:28:53,079 --> 00:28:58,119
They're not homophobic at all.
They're racist as a motherfucker.
370
00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:01,240
They don't like that I had
a white boyfriend.
371
00:29:02,839 --> 00:29:06,319
See? You see what I'm saying?
You see that change?
372
00:29:07,079 --> 00:29:10,119
You can be gay, but nigger, what?
373
00:29:11,839 --> 00:29:14,319
You date white boys, really?
Is that a shock?
374
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:17,279
Surprise, surprise. No more secrets.
I'm gonna tell you all.
375
00:29:24,559 --> 00:29:26,160
You heard her say "wow"?
376
00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:29,759
That's the sound of a Black woman
that feels doubly betrayed.
377
00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:36,000
My sister is on that shit, too.
Listen, I'm used to it.
378
00:29:36,079 --> 00:29:40,200
I grew up just in the hood
on some real strong masculine shit.
379
00:29:40,279 --> 00:29:42,000
It plays out.
380
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:45,960
Look, I'll say this,
381
00:29:46,799 --> 00:29:50,880
I actually think that it is important
to say this,
382
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:52,279
I believe in the Black family.
383
00:29:52,359 --> 00:29:56,279
I think that Black men should marry
Black women,
384
00:29:56,640 --> 00:30:02,279
and have Black babies and raise them
to be smart, just good citizens,
385
00:30:02,359 --> 00:30:04,880
educated.
I think that's very, very important.
386
00:30:06,119 --> 00:30:07,319
A hundred percent.
387
00:30:08,039 --> 00:30:11,559
I think gay Black men should be able
to fuck whoever the fuck we want.
388
00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:15,839
What is the consequence?
389
00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:21,799
There are no Black babies coming
from the kind of sex I have, okay?
390
00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:25,759
It's all getting flushed.
It doesn't matter.
391
00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:28,400
Doesn't matter.
392
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:33,680
The Black girls, they try.
393
00:30:33,759 --> 00:30:35,519
I would send them pictures
of my boyfriend
394
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:38,039
and they would ignore
that he's white.
395
00:30:38,119 --> 00:30:39,079
They would just be like...
396
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:42,200
I remember I sent a picture
to my homegirl Tiffany and she was like:
397
00:30:42,279 --> 00:30:43,960
"He got some pretty glasses."
398
00:30:44,039 --> 00:30:47,000
I was like: "Nah, bitch,
it's not the glasses."
399
00:30:47,079 --> 00:30:50,960
"Look at the skin of my vanilla king."
400
00:30:52,759 --> 00:30:55,240
I didn't call him that.
401
00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:59,079
I'm hiding nothing from you guys.
402
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:01,680
But your name.
403
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:16,079
Now you guys are too much
like my family.
404
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:20,559
Let's go back to the audience-performer
relationship we had before.
405
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:28,359
It's a lot.
406
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:32,039
I'm really happy we had this moment
of...
407
00:31:42,519 --> 00:31:47,240
My brother texted me earlier today
and said:
408
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:51,200
"I'm missing my first special taping,"
409
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:55,519
"but I know it's necessary. I love you."
410
00:31:57,119 --> 00:31:59,279
That's very sweet. I love him.
411
00:31:59,359 --> 00:32:02,279
He's there for me as much as he can be.
412
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:06,640
He tries. He tries and I love him.
413
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:09,559
I love him a lot.
I love Joe so much.
414
00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:14,680
He's all I got in a lot of this.
415
00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:21,720
I wish he'd try harder.
I'm probably a little mad at him,
416
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:25,960
a little bit mad. He's my big brother,
he's supposed to protect me.
417
00:32:32,079 --> 00:32:34,680
He loves me despite,
that's the thing.
418
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:38,079
It's a little condescending, you know?
419
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:40,119
It's love with an asterisk.
420
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:43,240
"I don't really fuck with the gay shit,
but I still love you."
421
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:46,119
That's that masculine shit.
422
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:51,359
I could feel the distance between us.
423
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:56,839
And I hate that
because no one would want that.
424
00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:59,000
It makes me feel unwanted.
425
00:32:59,079 --> 00:33:01,519
It makes me feel like
something is wrong with me.
426
00:33:03,279 --> 00:33:06,799
It's like he's looking down on me
and accepting me despite.
427
00:33:11,319 --> 00:33:14,839
It's especially hurtful just because
I make so much more money
428
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:17,160
than this nigger.
429
00:33:25,119 --> 00:33:26,400
It's not even close.
430
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:32,839
I don't wanna be gross
and talk about money,
431
00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:36,079
but the difference is millions
and millions of dollars.
432
00:33:42,119 --> 00:33:43,640
I love my brother a lot.
433
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:46,079
He's a nice guy.
434
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:49,039
Nice as... I'm saying that.
435
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:57,440
He has five kids who I love a lot,
a lot.
436
00:33:57,519 --> 00:33:59,400
My nieces mean a lot to me.
437
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:06,839
My oldest niece, Joliette,
she's fourteen now
438
00:34:07,519 --> 00:34:09,599
and I like talking to her.
439
00:34:09,679 --> 00:34:12,840
I think she's so smart
and she's really beautiful.
440
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:14,519
Her face reminds me of my mom's.
441
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:25,000
I have a five-year-old niece
442
00:34:25,079 --> 00:34:26,960
and then four-year-old twin nieces
443
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:29,079
and I love them.
444
00:34:29,159 --> 00:34:31,719
I like spending time with them
because I'm not hiding anything
445
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:33,280
when I' m with them,
I'm just with them.
446
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:35,559
We're just there playing.
447
00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:39,079
We're just eating ice cream
or they're trying to braid my hair.
448
00:34:41,039 --> 00:34:43,800
They are easy to talk about it with,
you know?
449
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:49,519
Juliette, there's no pre-tense.
It's harder with the older ones.
450
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:54,480
I came out to my dad again.
451
00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:59,800
I say again, cause he forgets.
It's cognitive dissonance.
452
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:05,519
I have to remind him.
I have to re-up every so often.
453
00:35:06,119 --> 00:35:09,719
There's a part of him that likes
that I came out.
454
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:12,239
I don't think he necessarily wants
a gay son,
455
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:15,920
but he likes that me coming out
takes some of the heat off him.
456
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:20,519
Like when he first found out he was
like "no, it's cool",
457
00:35:20,599 --> 00:35:22,760
"I fucked up, you fucked up".
458
00:35:25,079 --> 00:35:29,880
"You gay, I did what I did...
Que sera..."
459
00:35:34,039 --> 00:35:36,239
My father's dream is that I'm bi.
460
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:42,960
That's all he wants.
that's all he wants, the hope,
461
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:46,280
somewhere on the horizon,
that I'm still getting pussy.
462
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:52,119
That's all he wants.
He's probably actually disappointed
463
00:35:52,199 --> 00:35:53,800
in both of me and my brother.
464
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:55,320
He's probably looking at us like:
465
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:57,880
"Wait, so you gay
and you only fuck your wife?
466
00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:00,679
"What kinda nerds am I raising here?"
467
00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:18,519
I told my dad, I said:
"I know two things for a fact."
468
00:36:20,199 --> 00:36:25,960
"I will never be an astronaut
and I'm a gay man."
469
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:30,039
And you know what my father said?
470
00:36:30,119 --> 00:36:33,199
He said:
"Don't give up on the moon, son."
471
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:02,000
I hid it from my mom
for the most part.
472
00:37:03,519 --> 00:37:05,599
I was afraid
473
00:37:10,639 --> 00:37:15,360
that her reaction would be
to just go inside with it.
474
00:37:19,079 --> 00:37:23,000
I love her a lot. I love her dearly.
475
00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:28,440
And I'm trying to describe her
without sounding cliche
476
00:37:28,519 --> 00:37:30,159
and describe the love
that I have for her.
477
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:35,440
I really feel like I was one
of her closest friends.
478
00:37:35,519 --> 00:37:38,039
I feel like I have always
looked out for her.
479
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:43,519
I remember on the call,
480
00:37:45,159 --> 00:37:50,119
the last time I talked about being gay
with my Mom,
481
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:54,760
she said: "I can't go against Jesus."
482
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:01,800
And it just bothers me.
483
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:05,079
I get it, cause she's...
484
00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:12,079
She's doing the best she can.
485
00:38:14,159 --> 00:38:15,360
I think.
486
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:22,840
She's trying to accept.
I don't know what she's trying to do.
487
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:25,400
I think she's trying to accept it.
488
00:38:27,119 --> 00:38:30,239
Part of me knows she's at home
trying to pray the gay away.
489
00:38:31,559 --> 00:38:33,159
I get a little mad sometimes.
490
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:39,199
Any time I don't match with a dude
on RIA I'm like:
491
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:45,440
"I bet that bitch over there
praying to God."
492
00:38:52,039 --> 00:38:54,320
I feel it too.
493
00:38:55,119 --> 00:38:58,760
It fucks with me because this
is a religion that I still believe in.
494
00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:02,320
I'm still a Christian
and it's taken a lot,
495
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:06,800
it's taken a whole lot because
I've had to reconfigure God
496
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:09,039
and what God is and what he means
497
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:11,719
in order to accept myself.
498
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:15,599
I had to kind of rebuild.
And with my Mom...
499
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:26,280
I'm sorry. A lot of it is not really...
500
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:32,960
It's kinda happening in real time,
so it's not totally worked out.
501
00:39:34,079 --> 00:39:35,559
Forgive me.
502
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:43,000
I think she's...
503
00:39:45,039 --> 00:39:48,239
She thinks not reacting
is the best reaction.
504
00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:55,159
I think she's been rewarded
for staying quiet, you know?
505
00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:59,880
It's like with her dad,
so she gives me nothing.
506
00:40:02,519 --> 00:40:08,519
Even hate starts to feel like love
because that's acknowledgement.
507
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:13,679
It's not just nice.
It's not pleasant, it's real
508
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:15,559
and that feels...
509
00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:20,440
I think that would feel better.
I wish she would yell at me.
510
00:40:20,519 --> 00:40:23,639
I wish she would tell me
to not come home.
511
00:40:26,599 --> 00:40:29,639
I wish she'd call me a faggot
like my Uncle June Bug did.
512
00:40:32,119 --> 00:40:34,119
Yeah. It hurt my feelings,
513
00:40:34,199 --> 00:40:36,079
but I was like:
"Nigga, your name June Bug."
514
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:42,480
I'd rather get called a faggot
than June Bug.
515
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:51,719
Anything, anything, anything.
516
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:06,599
She's nice.
517
00:41:12,159 --> 00:41:15,679
She's sweet. She ignores it.
518
00:41:19,639 --> 00:41:25,239
The worst of her is cold,
like really, really cold.
519
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:29,920
I mean she's a nice lady, but like,
there's a part of her that's really...
520
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:34,599
She can shut people out.
521
00:41:35,039 --> 00:41:37,960
She can ignore,
she can block and like, go inside.
522
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:45,000
But you gave yourself so many years.
Why don't you give her that time?
523
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:47,679
I'd love to give her all the time
in the world, you know?
524
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:51,920
I don't know how much time
it would take.
525
00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:54,679
I don't know how much time
we have left.
526
00:41:55,519 --> 00:41:58,719
Just in general,
one of my biggest fears
527
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:01,800
is my parents funeral,
528
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:05,639
just the thought of one them dying
without saying everything,
529
00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:10,719
without contending,
without expressing it all.
530
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:18,760
And my mom's in her early sixties
531
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:22,360
and she has time and she's...
532
00:42:25,599 --> 00:42:28,559
I also just don't know
if that's when people change.
533
00:42:29,679 --> 00:42:31,079
They do.
534
00:42:31,599 --> 00:42:34,760
Maybe. I don't know.
It sounds like a joke,
535
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:38,400
but like part of me feels like if I ask
my mom to change this much about her
536
00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:41,679
is like, you ever see a 90-year-old
get a college degree?
537
00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:47,639
On the news...
538
00:42:49,119 --> 00:42:51,079
And you're like: "Bitch, now?"
539
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:55,159
"Good luck in the fucking job market."
540
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:07,960
It's not that I don't find hope
for change,
541
00:43:08,039 --> 00:43:10,039
but I think even if she was young,
542
00:43:11,159 --> 00:43:13,039
there's a part of my mom
that's very, very cold.
543
00:43:13,119 --> 00:43:16,599
I know it because I have it,
I can be that.
544
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:23,880
That's why my last real secret
is that I'm...
545
00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:26,960
People think I'm nice.
546
00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:35,960
Nah, I'm like my Mom.
Fuck everybody.
547
00:43:38,119 --> 00:43:40,960
Very selfish.
Very, very, very, very selfish.
548
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:45,639
I smile. Very polite about it.
I lie to everybody face
549
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:47,960
"Yeah, we should get dinner!"
550
00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:58,280
You know, lies.
How you lie to people?
551
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:01,760
I'm afraid of not...
552
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:06,519
Man, just like my Mom,
553
00:44:06,599 --> 00:44:09,000
is that performance of like
who you're supposed to be.
554
00:44:09,079 --> 00:44:11,880
Like I'm afraid of not smiling.
I smile a lot.
555
00:44:16,559 --> 00:44:17,880
I feel like if I don't smile,
556
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:20,400
I look like the niggers
that shot Malcom X.
557
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:30,000
I know.
558
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:39,159
I'm afraid of things getting...
559
00:44:44,159 --> 00:44:45,400
... awkward.
560
00:44:50,639 --> 00:44:51,800
Like weird.
561
00:44:55,519 --> 00:44:59,039
Like even this moment, I'm like "man,
I should probably think of a joke".
562
00:44:59,119 --> 00:45:02,639
Shit is falling apart out here.
563
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:08,800
Do you wish you didn't tell her?
564
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:15,320
No, no.
565
00:45:17,159 --> 00:45:19,199
I stayed in the closet
for a long time.
566
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:22,639
I think because of my Mom I felt like...
567
00:45:25,039 --> 00:45:28,599
It's not like I could bring a dude home
to her, so what's the point?
568
00:45:37,079 --> 00:45:38,960
But as much as she believes in God,
569
00:45:39,039 --> 00:45:43,079
I believe in personal growth
570
00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:48,760
and feeling free.
571
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:51,800
I feel freer.
572
00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:08,039
We say things like:
573
00:46:10,079 --> 00:46:13,159
"Sometimes you grow
and you gotta leave people behind."
574
00:46:13,599 --> 00:46:18,039
"People are in your life for a reason
or a season."
575
00:46:18,519 --> 00:46:20,400
Or these kinds of cliche sayings.
576
00:46:26,559 --> 00:46:28,440
It's hard when
that person is your Mom.
577
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:43,719
You think a lot of the guilt
is your dad's guilt?
578
00:46:45,199 --> 00:46:50,000
I carry some guilt
579
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:55,159
I think because I was complicit
580
00:47:00,079 --> 00:47:01,400
in the lie, I guess.
581
00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:07,239
I thought I was protecting her.
I always felt like my Mom's protector.
582
00:47:10,119 --> 00:47:11,599
I always felt like...
583
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:18,760
I'm trying to explain this concept.
I always felt like...
584
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:25,559
I always felt like the result
of her prayers.
585
00:47:29,679 --> 00:47:34,119
My mom, one of her favorite
Bible verses is,
586
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:36,920
I think it's Jeremiah Chapter 33:
587
00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:40,920
"Ask me and I will tell you things
you don't know and can't find out."
588
00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:50,639
Do you think without your mom's
approval you'll be okay?
589
00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:54,119
That eventually this will be something
that you'll be okay with?
590
00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:57,960
I think without my Mom's approval...
591
00:48:04,039 --> 00:48:07,480
I'd like to believe I will be okay.
592
00:48:07,559 --> 00:48:13,119
I think I've spent a lot of time trying
to supplement that love
593
00:48:13,199 --> 00:48:17,559
and I'm very thankful because I have
some very, very good friends.
594
00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:22,599
Really, really good people
who are there...
595
00:48:27,079 --> 00:48:31,360
I think it's something
that I kind of search for.
596
00:48:33,079 --> 00:48:35,719
When there's distance between me
and my Mom,
597
00:48:36,159 --> 00:48:38,920
it's the times I feel the most
like an orphan.
598
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:42,920
I feel abandoned.
599
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:45,119
I'm sorry, that laugh was fake.
600
00:48:59,679 --> 00:49:04,440
I'm trying to make jokes. I wish
this moment weren't so weird, man.
601
00:49:11,559 --> 00:49:13,719
I think like, what do I want from her?
602
00:49:14,199 --> 00:49:15,440
I know she'll see this.
603
00:49:27,079 --> 00:49:28,719
I don't know what will happen.
604
00:49:32,679 --> 00:49:34,639
You guys got any ideas?
605
00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:39,960
I don't know what else to...
606
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:46,159
I've been trying to be very honest
607
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:53,119
because my whole life
was shrouded in secrets.
608
00:49:57,480 --> 00:50:00,679
And I figured the only route
I haven't tried was the truth,
609
00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:03,559
so I'm saying everything.
610
00:50:04,119 --> 00:50:05,599
Here's everything.
611
00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:08,360
I feel okay.
612
00:50:11,639 --> 00:50:13,559
I'm very thankful for tonight.
613
00:50:23,559 --> 00:50:28,000
Rothaniel.
My name's Rothaniel.
614
00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:33,519
Goodnight, everybody.
Thank you very much.
615
00:50:34,079 --> 00:50:37,320
Thank you very, very much.
Thank you.
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