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- We have letters from
Ripper and Holmes here,
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and we're interested in
your professional analysis.
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- My conclusions generally will
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steer an investigation
in a certain way.
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- His intentions
for this building
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were for murder and
disposing of human remains.
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So where did these bodies go?
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'Cause people disappeared.
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- It sounds like a
wood-burning furnace
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was in the basement.
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This was not an efficient
or successful way
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of getting rid of a body.
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That lawn, where the Murder
Castle used to stand,
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is the only repository
of Holmes' victims.
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- Well, I wouldn't say only.
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Everywhere that he
owned real estate,
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you can be sure he
was killing people.
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I have a theory that Holmes
was encasing bodies in cement
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and dumping them in
the Chicago River.
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(water gurgling)
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- Oh wow, oh wow-wow-wow-wow!
- Wooh!
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- There we go.
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- Whoa!
- Wow, see these?
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This is an indication that
things have been dumped here.
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(dark electronic music)
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Can we hold it right in there?
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Now that's base, that's a base.
- Yeah, that's a base.
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- Keep it--
- Whoa, look, okay.
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- That's a lot there, holy cow.
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- There, there...
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- They're all over the place.
- Yeah.
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- Ex-CIA operative Amaryllis
Fox and Jeff Mudgett,
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great-great grandson
of H. H. Holmes,
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are on the Chicago River,
hunting for evidence
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that could break open
a 130-year-old mystery
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surrounding the identity
of Jack the Ripper.
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- So we've got
several impact areas
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which is an indication that says
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okay, something
has been thrown in.
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- [Narrator] At the site
of a cement warehouse
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that Holmes owned in 1891,
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they discovered a field
of deep depressions
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scattered across the river bed,
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signs that the proof
they're looking for
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could be hiding just
beneath the surface,
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in an undiscovered
burial ground.
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- Well, you have to be so close,
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because of the visibility.
- Right.
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She just brushed
the bottom there.
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- Yeah, and we've
gotten a little close
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and it smokes things up.
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This is the issue, you know,
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we're fighting with visibility.
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- Records indicate that
Holmes' cement warehouse
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purchased the raw
materials to make concrete
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but never actually sold any.
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This is a man who
may have killed
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hundreds of people and
concocted elaborate schemes
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to cover his tracks.
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It's not a stretch to imagine
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that this was a front
to dispose of bodies,
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and if that's true, we
may just be feet away
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from the evidence we need to
connect Holmes and the Ripper.
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- Is it possible
that just the weather
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or some other cause
created those craters?
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- No.
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These impacts look older.
- Wow.
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- [Jeff] So that proves
there's something under here.
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Now we need to figure
out a way to get at it.
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- Exactly.
- Exactly.
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- It would have taken something
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of fairly considerable weight
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to make that depression?
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- Yeah, I mean this is a
really large debris field,
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right next to the physical
property owned by Holmes.
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The potential of actually
uncovering body parts
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or physical evidence
of his crimes,
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that would be a huge
breakthrough
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in a 125 year old crime.
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which is really, really rare.
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If we can recover the
remains of a Holmes victim
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and conduct forensic analysis,
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we'll be able to compare
it to the coroner's reports
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from the Ripper victims
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and see if their killing
styles are a match.
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- I think we're the first
that's ever considered
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the bottom of the Chicago River
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connecting H. H. Holmes
and Jack the Ripper.
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- Yeah, if Holmes was encasing
his victims in concrete,
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we could have the opportunity
to uncover physical evidence
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and compare these two killers.
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So far our investigation
has uncovered
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some key pieces of evidence
that suggest a link
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between Holmes and Ripper.
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First we found
that, like Holmes,
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the Ripper might have
been a skilled doctor.
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We've also discovered a
similar killing method,
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that both men
asphyxiated their victims
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before dissecting them.
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It's interesting
that Scotland Yard
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identified an American doctor
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as one of the top suspects
in the Ripper case.
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And on top of that,
they believe the Ripper
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might have been responsible
for a New York City murder
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committed only a couple of
years after the London attacks.
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And so I want to know
what we can expect to find
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when we crack the concrete open.
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- Right, well, that's something
we'll have to figure out.
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- [Narrator] To determine
what kind of evidence
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might have survived
beneath the riverbed,
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Jeff and Amaryllis consult
with one of Chicago's
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top concrete manufacturers.
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- We hear that
you're the man to see
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about encasing a
body in concrete.
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- Well, first let me
say, at Ozinga Concrete,
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we don't condone burying
bodies in our concrete.
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- (chuckles) Noted.
- All right.
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- I was a federal
prosecutor for 20 years,
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an Assistant United
States Attorney,
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and now I'm president
of Ozinga Chicago,
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so I am familiar with
some unfortunate times,
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where people were murdered
and encased in concrete.
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And you know the old
stereotype in Chicago, right?
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Cement overshoes, uh Chicago
overcoat, and all that?
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It's how Al Capone would
dispose of his enemies.
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Right now, we are in
Al Capone's garage.
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- Stop it.
- Right, wow!
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- 1932, at this very location,
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Eliot Ness and his Untouchables
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crashed through the
door with battering rams
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and seized 140 barrels
of bootleg beer.
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- In this garage?
- In this very building?
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- The FBI?
- Yeah.
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- Knowing how
entrepreneurial Holmes was
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when it came to his
criminal cons and schemes,
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it wouldn't surprise
me in the least
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to find out that he essentially
pioneered the technique
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that the most notorious
mobsters in history
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adopted as their calling
cards 50 years later.
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- In the 1890s, this is the
exact technology they used.
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- All right.
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- Let's shovel it
right in there.
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Okay, so we're going
to make a nice lining
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along the bottom here.
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- [Narrator] Jeff and Amaryllis
are about to field test
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the preservative
power of concrete.
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- Now let's take
Porky Pig over there
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and let's bury him in concrete.
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All right, Porky, you're
gonna sleep with the fishes.
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- [Narrator] Using pig parts
to approximate human remains...
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- Jeff, why don't you really
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smash that big piece down there?
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- [Narrator] They'll
submerge the block in water,
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then return in two weeks
to observe the effects.
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- That has a strange texture
at the bottom of a shovel,
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I gotta tell ya.
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- I'm hoping this
test will demonstrate
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whether or not the
concrete provides
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enough of an airtight seal
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to protect it from
oxygen and bacteria
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which would preserve
whatever organic matter
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is buried inside.
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In this case, potentially one
or more of Holmes's victims.
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- Amaryllis, did you learn
to do this at the CIA?
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- This is outside of
my realm of experience.
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- [Narrator] To pick
up Holmes' trail,
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Jeff and Amaryllis meet
with historian Adam Selzer.
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- I want to go back to
building Holmes's timeline now
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because it's been so critical
in generating new leads
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the last known victim
of Holmes we discussed
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was Emeline Cigrand
in December of 1892.
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We now really want to see
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whether there are
any killings in 1893.
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- By '93, the World's Fair was
about to start up in Chicago
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and there were a lot of people
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flooding into Chicago
at the time.
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- It's my understanding
that was the biggest event
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in world history
until the time, right?
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- It was one of the bigger ones.
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- [Narrator] The 1893
World's Columbian Exposition
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commonly known as
the World's Fair,
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is a showcase of
technological achievement
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from across the globe that
put Chicago on the map.
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Just two years before,
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a new iron marvel,
the Eiffel Tower,
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greeted visitors at
the Paris Exhibition
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and became an
international sensation.
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But the grand size, scope,
and breadth of achievements
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on display in Chicago sets
a new global standard,
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one in every four Americans
traveling to the Windy City
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to witness the marvel.
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- You know, millions of
people were coming to town.
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It was a huge opportunity
for everybody.
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Uh, so now H. H. Holmes has
hired a Bemjamin Pitezel.
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Pitezel's a novelty dealer,
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he bought and sold
patents now and then,
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he did a lot of odd
jobs around the castle.
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And they found that they
had a shared interest
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in dishonest business practices.
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- [Amaryllis] Really?
- Interesting.
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- He was adding a third
story onto his building
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and they had been buying
all of this material
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ostensibly for the Castle
hotel rooms on credit
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but then never
actually paying for it.
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- Furniture...
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- Furniture, crockery,
flooring, bedding, mattresses,
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everything you might
need to furnish a hotel.
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- Holmes had already constructed
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his building on 63rd and Wallace
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by the time the World's
Fair came to Chicago,
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but it's then that the
building truly became
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the Murder Castle that we know.
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construction of the
third floor meant
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more hotel rooms for guests,
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more money coming in and
potentially, more victims.
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Sounds like Holmes was expecting
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a lot of business
from the World's Fair.
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- Yeah I think it's
just awfully convenient.
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- It's like the big game
that he'd been preparing for.
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I mean, that sounds
like something
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we need to investigate further.
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I'd really like to get
a better understanding
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of how the World's Fair
impacted these dozens,
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maybe hundreds of alleged
crimes the Holmes committed.
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- There's no doubt in my mind
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that the whole story
evolves around the Fair,
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and he wouldn't have
built the Murder Castle
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had the Fair not been
coming to Chicago.
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- [Amaryllis] How long
did the fair run in total?
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- Well, the Fair opened
on May 1st, 1893,
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and closed at the
end of October.
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- So, that would
be about four years
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after the last Ripper murder.
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- [Narrator]
Investigating the theory
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that 19th century serial
murderer H. H. Holmes
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was Jack the Ripper, Jeff
Mudgett and Amaryllis Fox
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have come to Chicago's
Newberry Library
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to unlock the secrets of
the 1893 World's Fair.
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- How many people came
from around the country
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actually visit the Fair
once it was up and running?
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- We know that the fair
sold 27.3 million tickets.
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- Holy Smokes!
- Whoa!
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- That must have been
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extraordinary for the time.
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I mean that would be an
extraordinary event today.
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The Expo is a grand
historical moment for Chicago,
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and for the expert
predator, Holmes,
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who completes the
conversion of his building
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into the Murder Castle,
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in anticipation of the
Fair's official opening
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in May 1893.
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- People have made parallels to
the Olympics and other
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sort of giant international
spectacles like that.
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It was just a vast scale.
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You had 700 acres
filled with exhibits.
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The business leaders felt
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that if Chicago was going to
continue to grow and thrive,
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it needed to offer more
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than just grain elevators
and railroad yards.
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It needed to have more culture.
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- [Narrator] The
World's Fair of 1893
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celebrates America's
transformation
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from a nation of agriculture
into a nation of industry.
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The sprawling 600
acre fairgrounds
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contains an entire
city within a city,
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complete with palatial
exhibition halls,
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working canals, and
stunning life-size replicas
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of Christopher Columbus'
three famed ships
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in honor of the 400th
anniversary
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of his journey to America.
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Groundbreaking technologies,
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including the Ferris Wheel,
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washing machine,
and moving sidewalk
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each make their debut.
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But for millions of
visitors to Chicago,
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the premiere
attraction of the fair
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is the opportunity to
witness for the first time
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the newest marvel of
the industrial age:
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the electric light.
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Rival inventors Thomas
Edison and Nikola Tesla
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famously vie for the
rights to light the Fair.
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Tesla wins out over his rival.
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The 100,000 light
bulbs that eventually
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illuminate the
majestic fairgrounds
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help earn the Chicago
World's Fair its nickname:
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The White City.
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- The headline speaker
was the president.
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- President Cleveland.
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- Yeah, so you see
Grover Cleveland,
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and on his little table,
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which was draped with
the American flag,
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he pressed a button,
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and then all the lights on
the fairgrounds turned on.
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- And that must have had
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an electrifying effect
on the crowd itself.
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- [Diane] So that was a
really sort of big moment.
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- It's just such a metaphor
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for the Industrial
Age beginning,
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and you see this
crush of humanity,
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I mean, this is like Times
Square on New Year's Eve
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and you just get the sense
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that the city is kinda
bursting at the seams.
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If this was a time that
you wanted to undertake
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nefarious activity in the city,
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the focus of law
enforcement was elsewhere.
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- Exactly, where there
were more opportunities
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for people to kind of
slip between the cracks.
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- Could you show us on the maps
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how far Holmes's
Murder Castle was
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from the Fair itself?
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- Sure, you see here, picked
out in red are the fairgrounds,
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and that little strip,
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the midway where the
Ferris Wheel was,
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and if you went straight west,
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you would have
come to the corner
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where Holmes'
enterprise was based.
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- [Amaryllis] You could
see that Ferris wheel
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from the Murder Castle.
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- [Diane] So, yeah, it
was a perfect location.
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- [Amaryllis] Yea.
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- It's chilling
to imagine Holmes
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against the backdrop for this
shining moment in America.
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His cons and killing methods,
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from New Hampshire to Michigan,
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to Chicago, to London,
were now fully developed
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and this fair, just two
miles from the Murder Castle,
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would have brought his victims
straight to his doorstep.
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- How many people
came to Chicago
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to be employed by the fair?
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There must have been thousands.
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- Yeah, a lot of
people who thought
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they could come and get a job
at the fair were disappointed,
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because you know, there
weren't as many jobs
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as people thought
there were going to be.
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And it's parallel to this
period of the late 19th century
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when there's a big expansion
in women's education
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so women were going off to
college and traveling alone.
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It's something that was
becoming more common
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on a lot of fronts.
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- That paints for me a picture
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of women coming from
their small towns
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thinking that they're going
to arrive in the boom town,
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there's going to be lots of
opportunity in the big city
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and that's exactly
the kind of moment
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that Holmes enters your life.
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(dramatic music)
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- What could have been a
more perfect place on earth
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for a killer of his nature
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than something like this,
two miles from his hotel?
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This factory of death.
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This torture corporation.
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- From the sheer
number of people
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who are coming through Chicago,
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right past the Murder Castle,
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you can easily speculate
Holmes' body count
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just growing and growing
during this period
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and it would have
been impossible
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to dispose of that many
bodies in the castle itself.
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Particularly striking
that Diane said
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was the number of women who
were arriving in Chicago alone
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for the first time,
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to come and visit the fair
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or potentially to work here,
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unaccompanied by a family member
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and not having any place to go.
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- It makes me think of
that lion on the savanna
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over watching the herds,
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deciding which one
he wanted tonight.
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- Yeah, it's the ideal
playground for him,
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as Whitechapel would have been.
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- Yeah...
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- All of the Ripper's
victims were women,
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all of them were prostitutes,
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and all of them were
stalked at night,
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(screaming)
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then strangled and dissected
with increasing brutality.
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I want to know more
about what life was like
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for the women that Holmes
might have targeted,
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what that experience was,
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as a young woman arriving
in H. H. Holmes' Chicago.
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(mysterious music)
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- One weekend, my
great-great aunt took a trip
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to Chicago and was
never heard from again,
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so I was always
intrigued and haunted
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by this bit of family lore
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and especially more so, when
I saw how prevalent it was
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in Chicago at the time.
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- [Narrator] Thousands of women
arrived in the city in 1893.
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Amaryllis consults
with an expert
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on 19th century women's history
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to learn more about
their lives, and deaths.
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- We've just been hearing
about the World's Fair
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and how many women
were descending
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on Chicago at this moment.
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Well, about a
thousand trains a day
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came and left Chicago,
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many of them bringing girls
from all over the country
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who would be met at
Dearborn Street Station.
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And there the the
unscrupulous madams
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or men offering employment,
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and these women were desperate.
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They needed to make money.
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They needed to find a living
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and a lot of these girls
ended up in the brothels.
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- [Narrator] With millions
of visitors in town
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for the Fair, Chicago's
brothel business is booming.
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As many as 5,000 prostitutes
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work in more than
30 establishments
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across the city's
red light district,
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just five miles from
the fairgrounds.
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A woman working as a prostitute
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at the end of the 19th century
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could bring in more
than 35 dollars a week,
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900 dollars in today's money,
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far more than any other job
available to women at the time.
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- It's so striking how
this area of Chicago
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was the American
equivalent of Whitechapel
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in its conditions for
prostitution and poverty.
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- Yeah, absolutely.
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I pulled some things aside
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that would give you
a bigger picture
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of the red light district
in Chicago at the time.
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All of the red lines
here indicate brothels.
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- Oh, that's incredible.
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One of Holmes'
Chicago properties
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was the ABC Copying Company,
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which was right in the vicinity
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of this long line
of red brothels.
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I mean, if Holmes was operating
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as the Ripper in
this environment,
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it would be very easy for
him to take his victims
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a block back to
this private office
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and go about his crimes there.
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So were there reports
of women going missing
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in Chicago at the time?
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- Absolutely, in fact
Chicago newspapers
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started running columns
about missing girls
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and the police just did
not have the resources
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to track down every
report of a missing girl.
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And so these girls
just sort of vanished.
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- Up until this point
in the investigation
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all of Holmes' victims
have been people he knew,
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whereas the Ripper
targeted prostitutes
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who we assume he
chose at random.
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I'd like to investigate
these missing women
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to see if there are any
patterns in their disappearance
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that link them to
Holmes and to Ripper.
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(suspenseful music)
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- Police officers
at the time had said
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there was probably up to about
800 women that disappeared,
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where they never found out
what ever happened to them.
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- 800 young women
missing a year,
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that number astounds me.
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- [Narrator] To dig
deeper into the details
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of Chicago's lost women,
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Jeff meets with Ray Johnson,
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who's combed through newspaper
reports from the period
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to identify any clues that
connect them to H. H. Holmes.
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- Were you able to tie
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any of those 800
missing young women
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to Holmes' killings?
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- You know, there was a
number of things I found
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about women with
their throats cut,
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and the police, for some reason,
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coming to the conclusion
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that it was a suicide.
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Thing is, is that it's
exceedingly difficult
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to kill yourself by
cutting your own throat.
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- [Narrator] Investigating
the unsolved disappearances
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of hundreds of women during
the Chicago World's Fair...
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- Thing is, is that it's
exceedingly difficult
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to kill yourself by
cutting your own throat.
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- [Narrator] Former
detective Ray Johnson
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shares a critical revelation
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that could link some of
the deaths to H. H. Holmes.
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- This woman checked into
a hotel with a gentleman
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just before the
World's Fair opened
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in the late April of 1893.
(woman laughing)
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Now, they signed in as
Mr and Mrs Alexander.
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- Which is interesting,
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because I know there
was an alias for Holmes
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which was an Alexander.
- Never know.
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- The headline mentions
her throat was cut
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and of course they called
that a suicide as well.
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Now, I know that,
with the World's Fair,
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Chicago didn't want
any bad publicity.
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They were really concerned
that that would affect
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the overall outcome of the fair.
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And there's another
woman, Josephine Dielman,
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she had her throat
cut from ear to ear.
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And again, this one they
also said was a suicide.
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Every time I was
looking into a case
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where a woman had cut her throat
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and there wasn't
a named suspect,
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or there wasn't someone standing
over the body with a knife,
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that they were very easily
dissuaded to call it a suicide.
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Now, this is the one that
really stood out to me.
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Jack the Ripper talk was
excited here today by finding
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a woman's mutilated corpse.
- Wow!
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00:21:35,762 --> 00:21:37,530
- Nearly nude on the
lakeshore railroad
501
00:21:37,564 --> 00:21:39,699
where it had been
washed by the waves.
502
00:21:39,732 --> 00:21:41,067
Besides what's said to resemble
503
00:21:41,100 --> 00:21:43,570
the characteristic Ripper
cut from the breast down,
504
00:21:43,603 --> 00:21:48,341
sound the legs had also been
severed below the knees.
505
00:21:48,375 --> 00:21:51,010
- So it looks like
we have evidence
506
00:21:51,043 --> 00:21:53,846
of Ripper-style
killings in Chicago.
507
00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:55,582
- [Ray] Right.
508
00:21:55,615 --> 00:21:59,352
- Because of the disemboweled
victim and sliced throat.
509
00:21:59,386 --> 00:22:00,720
- That's what caught my eye.
510
00:22:00,753 --> 00:22:02,355
- Catches my eye, too.
511
00:22:02,389 --> 00:22:05,124
- I can't trust that there
wouldn't be more of these
512
00:22:05,157 --> 00:22:07,994
but I do believe they
were trying to keep
513
00:22:08,027 --> 00:22:10,797
so as not to generate
any bad publicity
514
00:22:10,830 --> 00:22:13,032
for the city prior to the fair.
515
00:22:13,065 --> 00:22:16,035
- Finding reports of
Ripper-like murders in Chicago
516
00:22:16,068 --> 00:22:18,938
during the exact years
that Holmes was active here
517
00:22:18,971 --> 00:22:21,040
is huge for this investigation,
518
00:22:21,073 --> 00:22:22,975
and although we don't
have police reports,
519
00:22:23,009 --> 00:22:25,478
if there were other
crimes similar to this,
520
00:22:25,512 --> 00:22:28,748
the coroner's records
would be our best shot.
521
00:22:28,781 --> 00:22:31,050
And those records do exist.
522
00:22:31,083 --> 00:22:33,686
- [Jeff] Then
let's go find them.
523
00:22:38,625 --> 00:22:39,826
- [Narrator] North Eastern
University
524
00:22:39,859 --> 00:22:41,928
houses the city's
official coroner's records
525
00:22:41,961 --> 00:22:43,496
dating back to 1865.
526
00:22:44,564 --> 00:22:46,065
Amaryllis joins Jeff and Ray
527
00:22:46,098 --> 00:22:48,701
to search for evidence
that could connect Holmes
528
00:22:48,735 --> 00:22:50,970
to the unsolved 1893 murders.
529
00:22:52,605 --> 00:22:53,840
- If a body was found,
530
00:22:53,873 --> 00:22:56,443
regardless of what
condition or where it was,
531
00:22:56,476 --> 00:23:00,112
the coroner would decide
what the cause of that was.
532
00:23:00,146 --> 00:23:02,114
I wonder how many unknown women
533
00:23:02,148 --> 00:23:05,852
were found with Ripper-esque
type of murders in Chicago?
534
00:23:06,986 --> 00:23:08,921
- Now that's interesting.
535
00:23:08,955 --> 00:23:10,890
There's two of them,
right next to each other.
536
00:23:10,923 --> 00:23:11,624
- [Jeff] What do you mean?
537
00:23:11,658 --> 00:23:13,159
- Unknown woman, unknown woman,
538
00:23:13,192 --> 00:23:14,994
throat cut from ear to ear.
539
00:23:15,027 --> 00:23:16,563
Couldn't have been a suicide,
540
00:23:16,596 --> 00:23:17,664
both on the same day.
541
00:23:17,697 --> 00:23:19,098
- [Amaryllis] Similar
circumstances?
542
00:23:19,131 --> 00:23:21,968
- Yeah, this said they
couldn't determine whether
543
00:23:22,001 --> 00:23:25,838
she came to death
accidentally or otherwise.
544
00:23:25,872 --> 00:23:27,039
- [Amaryllis] So
these are two women--
545
00:23:27,073 --> 00:23:28,708
- These are two women
found the same day.
546
00:23:28,741 --> 00:23:31,911
- Who both turn up the
same day, unidentified.
547
00:23:31,944 --> 00:23:33,646
- That's troubling.
548
00:23:34,814 --> 00:23:36,148
- It would be really helpful
549
00:23:36,182 --> 00:23:38,017
if we knew when these
suspicious deaths started.
550
00:23:38,050 --> 00:23:40,052
I think we need to go
through, record by record,
551
00:23:40,086 --> 00:23:44,190
beginning right before Holmes
arrives in Chicago in 1886.
552
00:23:44,223 --> 00:23:45,892
Earlier in our investigation,
553
00:23:45,925 --> 00:23:49,696
we uncovered the 1891 murder
of Carrie Brown in New York.
554
00:23:49,729 --> 00:23:52,965
Scotland Yard and NYPD
seriously speculated
555
00:23:52,999 --> 00:23:54,233
that Jack the Ripper
had escaped London
556
00:23:54,266 --> 00:23:56,503
and continued his
work in the States.
557
00:23:56,536 --> 00:23:58,671
Finding evidence of more
Ripper-like killings
558
00:23:58,705 --> 00:24:00,740
here in Chicago during
the time of the Fair
559
00:24:00,773 --> 00:24:02,975
feels like more
than a coincidence.
560
00:24:03,009 --> 00:24:04,944
Now we just have to connect
the timing of these murders
561
00:24:04,977 --> 00:24:06,979
to H. H. Holmes.
562
00:24:07,013 --> 00:24:08,848
No, no, suicidal intent...
563
00:24:10,583 --> 00:24:11,484
- So nothing in '84?
564
00:24:11,518 --> 00:24:13,052
- Nothing in '84.
565
00:24:13,085 --> 00:24:14,687
- [Ray] On to '85.
566
00:24:15,655 --> 00:24:17,156
- Nothing so far.
567
00:24:17,189 --> 00:24:19,526
Nope, factory accident...
568
00:24:19,559 --> 00:24:21,060
Record by record of '85, no.
569
00:24:21,093 --> 00:24:23,062
- Nothing in '85, all right.
570
00:24:23,095 --> 00:24:26,032
- We know that Holmes
arrived in Chicago in 1886
571
00:24:26,065 --> 00:24:29,168
and was active there
until late 1893,
572
00:24:29,201 --> 00:24:31,571
after the World's
Fair had ended.
573
00:24:31,604 --> 00:24:33,039
- '86, so this is the time
574
00:24:33,072 --> 00:24:36,709
when Holmes would have first
become active in Chicago.
575
00:24:36,743 --> 00:24:38,010
- Oh wait, hold on.
576
00:24:38,044 --> 00:24:40,713
There's one, unidentified
woman, cut throat.
577
00:24:40,747 --> 00:24:42,982
- Just one for '86.
578
00:24:43,015 --> 00:24:45,017
Red-light district.
579
00:24:45,051 --> 00:24:47,954
- Shores of Lake Michigan,
unidentified woman,
580
00:24:47,987 --> 00:24:50,189
cut from the breast down,
581
00:24:50,222 --> 00:24:52,992
unidentified woman,
disemboweled.
582
00:24:53,025 --> 00:24:55,628
So that's the second in 1890.
583
00:24:55,662 --> 00:24:56,929
- [Ray] Two in 1890.
584
00:24:56,963 --> 00:24:58,698
- Print.
- Is that another?
585
00:24:58,731 --> 00:25:01,701
- Unidentified woman,
fourth for 1892.
586
00:25:02,969 --> 00:25:03,936
Three for 1893.
587
00:25:06,105 --> 00:25:07,039
1894, negative.
588
00:25:10,009 --> 00:25:12,144
- Get a load of this.
589
00:25:12,178 --> 00:25:16,115
1891, one, but then you
have the big spike in '92.
590
00:25:17,249 --> 00:25:18,985
- [Amaryllis] Right.
591
00:25:19,018 --> 00:25:22,188
- He acquired the
warehouse in 91.
592
00:25:22,221 --> 00:25:25,658
- Four unidentified
women in 1892,
593
00:25:25,692 --> 00:25:26,959
then three more in 1893,
594
00:25:26,993 --> 00:25:29,662
and then zappo again.
595
00:25:29,696 --> 00:25:31,163
There's a definite spike
in Ripper-like murders
596
00:25:31,197 --> 00:25:33,199
when Holmes is in Chicago,
597
00:25:33,232 --> 00:25:37,604
especially around the
time of the World's Fair.
598
00:25:37,637 --> 00:25:38,871
We can't simply conclude
599
00:25:38,905 --> 00:25:41,073
that these women were
victims of H. H. Holmes
600
00:25:41,107 --> 00:25:42,975
but the coincidence of
his presence in the city
601
00:25:43,009 --> 00:25:45,712
and the gruesome but the
familiar way these women died
602
00:25:45,745 --> 00:25:49,849
does add up suspiciously
for both Ripper and Holmes.
603
00:25:49,882 --> 00:25:52,685
If these are in fact
victims of Holmes,
604
00:25:52,719 --> 00:25:55,755
the fact that at least one
of them was disemboweled
605
00:25:55,788 --> 00:25:58,057
from the sternum on down
606
00:25:58,090 --> 00:26:00,192
in the style of Jack the Ripper
607
00:26:00,226 --> 00:26:01,794
is really striking.
608
00:26:01,828 --> 00:26:02,595
- Yeah.
609
00:26:10,069 --> 00:26:11,337
There's a striking connection
610
00:26:11,370 --> 00:26:13,272
between the Jack
the Rier murders
611
00:26:13,305 --> 00:26:14,807
and these these new murders,
612
00:26:14,841 --> 00:26:16,776
regarding unidentified women.
613
00:26:16,809 --> 00:26:19,345
- Well, the numbers
here don't lie
614
00:26:19,378 --> 00:26:21,714
and all of these
were just chalked up
615
00:26:21,748 --> 00:26:22,815
to accident at the time.
616
00:26:22,849 --> 00:26:24,050
- Yeah.
617
00:26:24,083 --> 00:26:25,752
We're discovering now
with this research
618
00:26:25,785 --> 00:26:28,821
that there were
many different ways
619
00:26:28,855 --> 00:26:30,189
that Holmes could have murdered
620
00:26:30,222 --> 00:26:31,691
and disposed of bodies.
621
00:26:31,724 --> 00:26:33,125
Yeah, and many
different locations.
622
00:26:33,159 --> 00:26:34,627
Right.
623
00:26:34,661 --> 00:26:36,062
Most people think of
all of these killings
624
00:26:36,095 --> 00:26:38,931
having taken place
in the Murder Castle.
625
00:26:38,965 --> 00:26:41,000
We're now seeing more
and more evidence
626
00:26:41,033 --> 00:26:43,202
that that just wasn't the case,
627
00:26:43,235 --> 00:26:46,739
and this is the first
time that I've seen
628
00:26:46,773 --> 00:26:49,108
the same style of killing
629
00:26:49,141 --> 00:26:50,677
with the same kind of frequency
630
00:26:50,710 --> 00:26:52,712
as Jack the Ripper's victims
were killed in London,
631
00:26:52,745 --> 00:26:54,213
happening in Chicago,
632
00:26:54,246 --> 00:26:57,083
and tied to the years that
Holmes lived in the city.
633
00:26:57,116 --> 00:27:00,086
what struck me was how,
over and over again,
634
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:01,954
when the police
couldn't determine
635
00:27:01,988 --> 00:27:04,691
how these women were murdered
636
00:27:04,724 --> 00:27:05,925
they called them suicides.
637
00:27:05,958 --> 00:27:07,293
Now what does that mean?
638
00:27:07,326 --> 00:27:11,063
- Whether it was an
organized conspiracy or not,
639
00:27:11,097 --> 00:27:14,266
by labeling them a suicide is
a pretty simple and neat trick
640
00:27:14,300 --> 00:27:18,304
to prevent the kind
of widespread fear
641
00:27:18,337 --> 00:27:19,972
that Jack the
Ripper was inspiring
642
00:27:20,006 --> 00:27:21,841
in the public at the time.
643
00:27:23,309 --> 00:27:25,945
They became unwitting
accomplices to Holmes
644
00:27:25,978 --> 00:27:27,780
as he was operating here.
645
00:27:27,814 --> 00:27:29,949
There's a pretty serious
debate among Holmes experts
646
00:27:29,982 --> 00:27:33,085
as to how many people actually
fell victim to his knife.
647
00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:34,954
Some say it's as few as nine,
648
00:27:34,987 --> 00:27:36,388
others think it's closer to 30,
649
00:27:36,422 --> 00:27:38,324
some say it's hundreds.
650
00:27:38,357 --> 00:27:39,959
If all of these Ripper-style
Chicago killings
651
00:27:39,992 --> 00:27:42,061
were committed by one person
652
00:27:42,094 --> 00:27:45,297
then we're looking at the
work of a mass murderer,
653
00:27:45,331 --> 00:27:47,867
and a master at inventing
and evolving new ways
654
00:27:47,900 --> 00:27:51,303
to get rid of evidence
and outsmart the law.
655
00:27:51,337 --> 00:27:52,905
It seems to me that
the cement warehouse
656
00:27:52,939 --> 00:27:54,907
is going to be our biggest lead.
657
00:27:54,941 --> 00:27:58,010
There may actually be
viable physical evidence
658
00:27:58,044 --> 00:27:59,812
inside those blocks of concrete.
659
00:27:59,846 --> 00:28:00,412
- Yeah.
660
00:28:09,856 --> 00:28:11,123
- We need to get that
trunk out of there
661
00:28:11,157 --> 00:28:13,225
and see what this
pig looks like.
662
00:28:13,259 --> 00:28:15,828
- [Narrator] It's been two
weeks since Jeff and Amaryllis
663
00:28:15,862 --> 00:28:18,464
set out to test the
preservation power of concrete.
664
00:28:18,497 --> 00:28:19,932
- We put it in concrete.
665
00:28:19,966 --> 00:28:23,102
It's hardened, we had
it soaking in water.
666
00:28:23,135 --> 00:28:24,971
- [Narrator] Now, they'll
discover if the submersion
667
00:28:25,004 --> 00:28:26,806
has had any effect
on living tissue
668
00:28:26,839 --> 00:28:29,275
buried inside the solid block.
669
00:28:29,308 --> 00:28:32,044
- [Lloyd] All right, Mark,
you're doin' a heck of a job.
670
00:28:32,078 --> 00:28:34,046
- All right, shall we
crack this baby open?
671
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:35,081
- [Jeff] Okay.
672
00:28:35,114 --> 00:28:36,448
- [Amaryllis] There we go.
673
00:28:36,482 --> 00:28:38,517
- [Jeff] All right.
674
00:28:38,550 --> 00:28:40,052
- Pig flesh often
used as a stand-in
675
00:28:40,086 --> 00:28:42,088
for humans in forensic research,
676
00:28:42,121 --> 00:28:45,024
because the tissues and bone
density are very similar.
677
00:28:45,057 --> 00:28:46,492
- [Jeff] All right.
678
00:28:46,525 --> 00:28:47,093
- If this test shows any
preserving effect on the pig,
679
00:28:47,126 --> 00:28:49,862
it should give us an idea
680
00:28:49,896 --> 00:28:52,431
of what we can expect to
find in those concrete blocks
681
00:28:52,464 --> 00:28:54,066
Holmes may have
dropped in the river.
682
00:28:54,100 --> 00:28:57,103
(sledgehammer thudding)
683
00:28:59,005 --> 00:29:00,406
- There we go, blugh!
684
00:29:00,439 --> 00:29:02,975
- [Jeff] There we go.
685
00:29:03,009 --> 00:29:06,178
- [Lloyd] So what
does it look like?
686
00:29:06,212 --> 00:29:08,881
- It looks like we
just put it in there.
687
00:29:08,915 --> 00:29:10,149
Certainly nothing like,
688
00:29:10,182 --> 00:29:12,518
if you had just left
pig out on the counter.
689
00:29:12,551 --> 00:29:13,352
- [Jeff] Right.
690
00:29:13,385 --> 00:29:14,787
This fascinates me,
691
00:29:14,821 --> 00:29:16,122
the contour of the
concrete with the flesh.
692
00:29:16,155 --> 00:29:17,223
- [Amaryllis] Awesome.
693
00:29:17,256 --> 00:29:18,190
- I'm imagining
what we're to find,
694
00:29:18,224 --> 00:29:20,993
that same thing after
100 years, correct?
695
00:29:21,027 --> 00:29:22,328
- Correct.
696
00:29:22,361 --> 00:29:24,964
Think about what causes
the body to decompose?
697
00:29:24,997 --> 00:29:26,899
Bacteria, maggots, insects.
698
00:29:28,134 --> 00:29:30,036
When you've encased
a body in concrete,
699
00:29:30,069 --> 00:29:31,303
there's no maggots
that get in there,
700
00:29:31,337 --> 00:29:32,872
there's no insects
that get in there,
701
00:29:32,905 --> 00:29:34,373
there's no other animal,
702
00:29:34,406 --> 00:29:38,010
so how can you best preserve
a body for a hundred years?
703
00:29:38,044 --> 00:29:39,979
Encase it in concrete.
704
00:29:40,980 --> 00:29:41,547
- Yeah.
705
00:29:43,182 --> 00:29:44,851
- [Narrator] Forensic
anthropologists maintain
706
00:29:44,884 --> 00:29:47,186
that human remains
encased in concrete
707
00:29:47,219 --> 00:29:48,821
are likely to decompose slower
708
00:29:48,855 --> 00:29:51,858
due to the semi
sterile environment.
709
00:29:51,891 --> 00:29:54,093
Anaerobic bacteria that
breaks down a corpse
710
00:29:54,126 --> 00:29:55,895
is unable to
function efficiently
711
00:29:55,928 --> 00:29:58,097
with lower oxygen levels.
712
00:29:58,130 --> 00:29:59,298
Research suggests that,
713
00:29:59,331 --> 00:30:01,834
if the concrete is
enclosed in a container,
714
00:30:01,868 --> 00:30:04,103
further limiting
exposure to the elements,
715
00:30:04,136 --> 00:30:08,074
the human body could potentially
survive up to 500 years.
716
00:30:09,475 --> 00:30:10,509
- [Lloyd] You break
open that concrete,
717
00:30:10,542 --> 00:30:14,046
you would see striations,
cut marks on the bones.
718
00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:15,047
- [Amaryllis] Wow, so
we're talking about
719
00:30:15,081 --> 00:30:16,615
a forensic time capsule.
720
00:30:16,648 --> 00:30:17,950
- [Jeff] Oh yeah.
721
00:30:20,086 --> 00:30:21,320
- [Amaryllis] The
prospect of being able
722
00:30:21,353 --> 00:30:25,257
to examine a victim of
Holmes 125 years later,
723
00:30:25,291 --> 00:30:27,093
and determine if they were
killed in the same way
724
00:30:27,126 --> 00:30:28,861
as several of Jack
the Ripper's victims
725
00:30:28,895 --> 00:30:31,597
were killed in London,
seemed unthinkable.
726
00:30:31,630 --> 00:30:36,035
But looking at how
pristine this tissue is,
727
00:30:36,068 --> 00:30:38,270
now it seem like we
might have our chance.
728
00:30:38,304 --> 00:30:39,505
Biggest problem is not
729
00:30:39,538 --> 00:30:42,141
what forensic scientists
could learn today,
730
00:30:42,174 --> 00:30:43,475
the biggest problem is
731
00:30:43,509 --> 00:30:45,644
you're looking for a
needle in a haystack.
732
00:30:45,677 --> 00:30:48,114
- Even more important that
we actually do determine
733
00:30:48,147 --> 00:30:50,516
what's at the bottom of
the river in that silt.
734
00:30:50,549 --> 00:30:53,452
(suspenseful music)
735
00:30:58,290 --> 00:31:00,993
- Obviously two weeks
is not 125 years,
736
00:31:01,027 --> 00:31:02,394
but those pig parts
that we pulled out
737
00:31:02,428 --> 00:31:03,996
of the water and the concrete,
738
00:31:04,030 --> 00:31:05,497
I mean, they weren't perfect,
739
00:31:05,531 --> 00:31:08,267
but they were nowhere
near the decomposition
740
00:31:08,300 --> 00:31:10,269
you would expect to
see after two weeks.
741
00:31:10,302 --> 00:31:13,139
And that is exciting,
because it suggests
742
00:31:13,172 --> 00:31:15,307
that if there is concrete
in the bottom of the river
743
00:31:15,341 --> 00:31:19,178
and that concrete does
have Holmes' victims in it,
744
00:31:19,211 --> 00:31:21,380
this physical evidence
could shed light
745
00:31:21,413 --> 00:31:23,682
on how Holmes was
killing his victims,
746
00:31:23,715 --> 00:31:26,418
what his murder
weapon of choice was,
747
00:31:26,452 --> 00:31:29,021
how he was disposing
of their bodies
748
00:31:29,055 --> 00:31:31,457
and all of those are
incredibly important
749
00:31:31,490 --> 00:31:34,326
in understanding who
Holmes was as a killer,
750
00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:36,963
and whether it's possible
that he and Ripper
751
00:31:36,996 --> 00:31:38,931
were one and the same.
752
00:31:40,132 --> 00:31:41,167
I know from personal experience
753
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:42,935
we can't just hire a dive team
754
00:31:42,969 --> 00:31:45,104
based off video of
the river floor.
755
00:31:45,137 --> 00:31:46,438
We're going to need
detailed coordinates
756
00:31:46,472 --> 00:31:48,107
and dimensions of the objects
757
00:31:48,140 --> 00:31:50,109
in order to get permission
to dive the site
758
00:31:50,142 --> 00:31:52,211
and cover any remains.
759
00:31:52,244 --> 00:31:53,612
I'm going to reach out
to the recovery team
760
00:31:53,645 --> 00:31:55,314
and see whether we can
get back out on the river
761
00:31:55,347 --> 00:31:56,415
in the next couple days.
762
00:31:56,448 --> 00:31:58,184
- [Jeff] Yeah, agreed.
763
00:31:58,217 --> 00:32:01,687
Whoa, whoa, I got a text from
Dennis, the forensic analyst.
764
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:05,091
He says his results from
the handwriting analysis
765
00:32:05,124 --> 00:32:06,592
is ready to go.
766
00:32:06,625 --> 00:32:08,560
- Great, let's head back.
767
00:32:13,065 --> 00:32:14,333
Dennis!
- Hi, you're back.
768
00:32:14,366 --> 00:32:15,667
- Can't wait to
hear what you found.
769
00:32:15,701 --> 00:32:19,105
- We've done quite a bit
of work on your case...
770
00:32:19,138 --> 00:32:21,573
- [Narrator] Hand writing
specialist Dennis Ryan
771
00:32:21,607 --> 00:32:24,543
and his forensics team have
conducted a detailed analysis
772
00:32:24,576 --> 00:32:28,247
of handwriting samples
uncovered in the investigation.
773
00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:31,050
His results will reveal whether
the writings of H. H. Holmes
774
00:32:31,083 --> 00:32:33,685
match the known writings
of Jack the Ripper.
775
00:32:33,719 --> 00:32:35,421
- Pictures worth
a thousand words.
776
00:32:35,454 --> 00:32:44,663
We have some results
that are interesting.
777
00:32:44,696 --> 00:32:47,066
We've done quite a bit of work.
778
00:32:47,099 --> 00:32:49,001
- [Narrator] The Dear Boss
and Saucy Jack letters
779
00:32:49,035 --> 00:32:53,239
believed to have been written
by Jack the Ripper in 1888,
780
00:32:53,272 --> 00:32:55,674
and several samples
written by H. H. Holmes
781
00:32:55,707 --> 00:32:58,510
at various points
over a 20-year period
782
00:32:58,544 --> 00:33:01,580
including a letter
and a receipt.
783
00:33:01,613 --> 00:33:03,715
The first thing we did
was compare the variation
784
00:33:03,749 --> 00:33:05,284
in one's writing.
785
00:33:06,285 --> 00:33:07,753
- [Narrator] Like a fingerprint,
786
00:33:07,786 --> 00:33:10,456
an individual's handwriting
is completely unique.
787
00:33:10,489 --> 00:33:11,657
A highly trained specialist,
788
00:33:11,690 --> 00:33:13,792
known as a forensic
document examiner,
789
00:33:13,825 --> 00:33:15,661
analyzes up to 40
different elements
790
00:33:15,694 --> 00:33:17,429
of a person's handwriting,
791
00:33:17,463 --> 00:33:20,066
including the size, spacing,
and slant of a letter
792
00:33:20,099 --> 00:33:22,801
to determine the origin and
authenticity of a document,
793
00:33:22,834 --> 00:33:24,370
and whether two
pieces of writing
794
00:33:24,403 --> 00:33:26,705
were penned by the same hand.
795
00:33:28,207 --> 00:33:30,642
- I'm not an expert but I do
have some analytical training
796
00:33:30,676 --> 00:33:32,311
and I can see that
Holmes's writing style
797
00:33:32,344 --> 00:33:34,580
had variation over the years.
798
00:33:34,613 --> 00:33:36,348
I can see definite differences
799
00:33:36,382 --> 00:33:38,284
in the way he forms
specific letters
800
00:33:38,317 --> 00:33:39,751
that make me wonder whether
he was intentionally
801
00:33:39,785 --> 00:33:41,620
disguising his writing.
802
00:33:43,489 --> 00:33:45,524
Okay, now the $64,000 question.
803
00:33:45,557 --> 00:33:47,459
Is it possible the
same person wrote
804
00:33:47,493 --> 00:33:48,594
both the Jack the Ripper letters
805
00:33:48,627 --> 00:33:50,429
and the Holmes samples?
806
00:33:50,462 --> 00:33:52,764
- That's a very good question.
807
00:33:52,798 --> 00:33:54,600
I'll show you some results.
808
00:33:54,633 --> 00:33:55,834
In this particular case,
809
00:33:55,867 --> 00:33:59,071
these Holmes samples
came in a letter called
810
00:33:59,105 --> 00:34:01,207
the Attorney Graham letter.
811
00:34:02,574 --> 00:34:04,643
In this particular slide,
812
00:34:04,676 --> 00:34:09,481
we had set three samples
from the Attorney Graham,
813
00:34:09,515 --> 00:34:12,784
and these are not
consistent with the samples
814
00:34:12,818 --> 00:34:18,324
from the Dear Boss or
Saucy Jack letters.
815
00:34:18,357 --> 00:34:20,492
The closed portion of the h
816
00:34:21,727 --> 00:34:23,729
in the Dear Boss is open,
817
00:34:23,762 --> 00:34:26,165
and the e formation
is flat and closed,
818
00:34:26,198 --> 00:34:27,766
almost like a bump,
819
00:34:27,799 --> 00:34:29,801
and that's inconsistent with
820
00:34:29,835 --> 00:34:34,273
what's found in the letters
from Jack the Ripper.
821
00:34:34,306 --> 00:34:37,876
In this last sample from
the Attorney Graham,
822
00:34:37,909 --> 00:34:41,280
the y formation
comes back and loops.
823
00:34:41,313 --> 00:34:44,716
In the Attorney Graham,
it's just one stroke down
824
00:34:44,750 --> 00:34:46,652
and that finishes the letter.
825
00:34:46,685 --> 00:34:49,555
So with finding
inconsistencies and the style
826
00:34:49,588 --> 00:34:52,624
and the skill of the
writer is different.
827
00:34:52,658 --> 00:34:54,126
- [Amaryllis] Damn.
828
00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:56,728
- This was another sample
that was submitted.
829
00:34:56,762 --> 00:34:58,697
The H. H. Holmes receipt.
830
00:34:58,730 --> 00:35:00,632
But this, we were
unable to determine
831
00:35:00,666 --> 00:35:02,301
if this was consistent
832
00:35:02,334 --> 00:35:05,571
with the Dear Boss or
Saucy Jack letters.
833
00:35:05,604 --> 00:35:06,872
- [Amaryllis] Why?
834
00:35:06,905 --> 00:35:08,674
- Because the style of
the writing is different
835
00:35:08,707 --> 00:35:11,477
and the formation of
some of the letters.
836
00:35:11,510 --> 00:35:12,678
Here's the word, payment.
837
00:35:12,711 --> 00:35:14,513
P in the payment
and the other one
838
00:35:14,546 --> 00:35:17,483
had an open bottom to it.
839
00:35:17,516 --> 00:35:20,619
But then the m-e was one
of the letter combinations
840
00:35:20,652 --> 00:35:23,155
that we found to be similar.
841
00:35:23,189 --> 00:35:24,490
- So when there are
characteristics
842
00:35:24,523 --> 00:35:25,857
that are consistent
843
00:35:25,891 --> 00:35:28,260
and characteristics that
are not consistent, how--
844
00:35:28,294 --> 00:35:29,661
- You would be inconclusive.
845
00:35:29,695 --> 00:35:30,729
- Inconclusive.
- Correct.
846
00:35:30,762 --> 00:35:32,198
- [Amaryllis] Interesting.
847
00:35:32,231 --> 00:35:33,665
- The receipt that we picked up
848
00:35:33,699 --> 00:35:35,467
in our investigation
in New Hampshire
849
00:35:35,501 --> 00:35:38,537
is the earliest known document
with Holmes's writing.
850
00:35:38,570 --> 00:35:40,306
He was 17 years old.
851
00:35:40,339 --> 00:35:43,209
He would have been 27 when the
Ripper letters were written
852
00:35:43,242 --> 00:35:45,944
and 33 when he wrote the
Attorney Graham letter.
853
00:35:45,977 --> 00:35:47,379
I have to wonder why his writing
854
00:35:47,413 --> 00:35:49,781
changed so drastically
over the years
855
00:35:49,815 --> 00:35:52,918
So if you cannot form
a conclusive judgment
856
00:35:52,951 --> 00:35:57,423
about whether this receipt
written by H. H. Holmes
857
00:35:57,456 --> 00:35:59,758
and the Dear Boss letter
were penned by the same hand.
858
00:35:59,791 --> 00:36:00,659
- That's correct.
859
00:36:00,692 --> 00:36:02,561
- But you can't rule it out.
860
00:36:02,594 --> 00:36:03,262
- Can't rule it out,
861
00:36:03,295 --> 00:36:05,764
can't say yes or can't say no.
862
00:36:05,797 --> 00:36:06,798
- Well, I can tell you this.
863
00:36:06,832 --> 00:36:10,702
Your inconclusive
conclusion means
864
00:36:10,736 --> 00:36:12,804
that Holmes could have
been Jack the Ripper.
865
00:36:12,838 --> 00:36:16,442
We've got to get to the
bottom of that river.
866
00:36:16,475 --> 00:36:19,311
(suspenseful music)
867
00:36:20,846 --> 00:36:23,649
- As you know Jeff and I
are on the Holmes trail.
868
00:36:23,682 --> 00:36:26,318
We have a bit of a
treasure hunt for you.
869
00:36:26,352 --> 00:36:27,986
- [Narrator] The next step
is river investigation
870
00:36:28,019 --> 00:36:30,589
is to pinpoint specific
coordinates for a dive.
871
00:36:30,622 --> 00:36:32,524
Jeff and Amaryllis meet
872
00:36:32,558 --> 00:36:36,395
with an underwater recovery
specialist to strategize.
873
00:36:36,428 --> 00:36:39,498
- We have already
taken a first look
874
00:36:39,531 --> 00:36:40,866
at the bottom of
the Chicago River,
875
00:36:40,899 --> 00:36:42,701
and we've brought
some video here
876
00:36:42,734 --> 00:36:44,803
to show you what we found,
877
00:36:44,836 --> 00:36:47,506
and it's what has led us to you.
878
00:36:47,539 --> 00:36:49,275
Now the Chicago River,
it gets pretty murky
879
00:36:49,308 --> 00:36:50,742
and you can see from this video.
880
00:36:50,776 --> 00:36:52,010
You can see there
881
00:36:52,043 --> 00:36:55,381
these really unusual
craters and divots
882
00:36:55,414 --> 00:36:58,417
and we're hoping that,
with your assistance,
883
00:36:58,450 --> 00:37:00,752
we might be able to
pinpoint the exact locations
884
00:37:00,786 --> 00:37:02,521
and dimensions of
whatever's down there
885
00:37:02,554 --> 00:37:04,290
so we can share it
with the dive team.
886
00:37:04,323 --> 00:37:07,393
- Well, yeah, we handle
problems like this.
887
00:37:07,426 --> 00:37:09,761
So looking for debris
that's been buried
888
00:37:09,795 --> 00:37:11,263
or you know, at the surface
889
00:37:11,297 --> 00:37:13,265
is something that
we typically do
890
00:37:13,299 --> 00:37:16,468
and those same applications
can be applied to this.
891
00:37:16,502 --> 00:37:17,703
We do look for debris.
892
00:37:17,736 --> 00:37:19,037
I see from the video,
893
00:37:19,070 --> 00:37:20,806
the water is a little
bit of murky at times
894
00:37:20,839 --> 00:37:22,774
so but one of the
process we do is
895
00:37:22,808 --> 00:37:24,943
we do what we call
site scan sonar.
896
00:37:24,976 --> 00:37:26,745
It's using sonar rather
than the visual wavelength
897
00:37:26,778 --> 00:37:29,281
tied in with the GPS
898
00:37:29,315 --> 00:37:32,050
and we can make actually
mosaic of the bottom.
899
00:37:32,083 --> 00:37:35,687
I have examples from a bridge
that we just recently did.
900
00:37:35,721 --> 00:37:37,956
You can see how
the images of logs
901
00:37:37,989 --> 00:37:40,592
and pieces of concrete debris
902
00:37:40,626 --> 00:37:42,027
are scattered there
903
00:37:42,060 --> 00:37:44,630
and sometimes you begin
to get the detail,
904
00:37:44,663 --> 00:37:46,732
even the gory details.
905
00:37:46,765 --> 00:37:49,768
Now this is somebody
to fell overboard
906
00:37:50,936 --> 00:37:53,772
and that's two
weeks in the water.
907
00:37:53,805 --> 00:37:55,341
- So that's very
high-resolution.
908
00:37:55,374 --> 00:37:56,942
you really can get
a sense of the shape
909
00:37:56,975 --> 00:37:58,677
and volume of what
you're looking at.
910
00:37:58,710 --> 00:37:59,778
- Yes, exactly.
911
00:37:59,811 --> 00:38:01,880
- And we know that
it's a long shot
912
00:38:01,913 --> 00:38:05,016
but the truth is that
after a hundred years plus,
913
00:38:05,050 --> 00:38:06,785
for me, as a cold-case
investigator,
914
00:38:06,818 --> 00:38:09,688
the chance to actually
examine physical evidence
915
00:38:09,721 --> 00:38:11,890
to link the two killers
we're investigating
916
00:38:11,923 --> 00:38:15,694
is really the brass ring
for this investigation.
917
00:38:15,727 --> 00:38:16,528
I think we should get down there
918
00:38:16,562 --> 00:38:22,401
and see what we can find.
919
00:38:22,434 --> 00:38:25,704
(suspensef(seagulls cawin)
920
00:38:25,737 --> 00:38:27,706
- We're about seven
minutes from the spot.
921
00:38:27,739 --> 00:38:29,941
How long will it take you
to deploy the site scanner?
922
00:38:29,975 --> 00:38:31,543
Probably take about
less than five minutes
923
00:38:31,577 --> 00:38:32,378
to deploy that
and start pinging.
924
00:38:32,411 --> 00:38:34,012
- [Jeff] Okay.
925
00:38:34,045 --> 00:38:34,980
- [Narrator] Jeff and Amaryllis
926
00:38:35,013 --> 00:38:36,715
are on the cusp of discovering
927
00:38:36,748 --> 00:38:39,418
whether concrete blocks at the
bottom of the Chicago River
928
00:38:39,451 --> 00:38:41,820
could contain a
break in the case,
929
00:38:41,853 --> 00:38:44,923
possible victims
of H. H. Holmes.
930
00:38:44,956 --> 00:38:46,558
- It's pretty amazing to think
931
00:38:46,592 --> 00:38:49,961
that right there was Holmes's
cement storage facility.
932
00:38:52,531 --> 00:38:53,565
He had a pier here.
933
00:38:53,599 --> 00:38:54,900
You can imagine him standing,
934
00:38:54,933 --> 00:38:56,134
looking out at all of the boats
935
00:38:56,167 --> 00:38:57,603
coming up and down the river
936
00:38:57,636 --> 00:39:01,473
and not expecting that
a hundred years later
937
00:39:01,507 --> 00:39:03,975
we'd be out here with all
of this forensic technology
938
00:39:04,009 --> 00:39:06,445
taking a look at
what he left for us
939
00:39:06,478 --> 00:39:07,913
on the bottom of the river.
940
00:39:07,946 --> 00:39:09,581
- With those types of facilities
941
00:39:09,615 --> 00:39:11,517
and knowing the man he was,
942
00:39:11,550 --> 00:39:14,586
it strikes me as odd some
people would even doubt
943
00:39:14,620 --> 00:39:16,855
how plausible this theory is
944
00:39:16,888 --> 00:39:19,625
that he used the river
to discard the bodies.
945
00:39:19,658 --> 00:39:22,761
- If he did use that technique
to get rid of the bodies
946
00:39:22,794 --> 00:39:25,731
what kind of size blocks
are we looking at?
947
00:39:25,764 --> 00:39:28,166
- Let's cross our fingers
that he had to use
948
00:39:28,199 --> 00:39:30,001
some big blocks once in a while.
949
00:39:30,035 --> 00:39:32,137
We might be able to
detect them far easier.
950
00:39:32,170 --> 00:39:33,472
- Yeah...
951
00:39:33,505 --> 00:39:35,874
If we can get exact
GPS coordinates
952
00:39:35,907 --> 00:39:37,809
and a sense of how
large the blocks are
953
00:39:37,843 --> 00:39:39,611
then we'll be able to
send in a dive team
954
00:39:39,645 --> 00:39:41,547
to retrieve the evidence.
955
00:39:41,580 --> 00:39:42,448
All right!
956
00:39:42,481 --> 00:39:43,615
- [Jeff] Let's launch.
957
00:39:43,649 --> 00:39:44,182
- [Amaryllis] All
right, let's do it!
958
00:39:44,215 --> 00:39:45,884
Wow, so this is it, huh?
959
00:39:45,917 --> 00:39:47,085
- Yes.
960
00:39:47,118 --> 00:39:47,686
- Tell us a little
about this bad boy.
961
00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:48,887
It's pretty cool-looking.
962
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:50,656
- Yeah, this is our sonar fish.
963
00:39:50,689 --> 00:39:52,123
Doesn't matter how
murky the water is,
964
00:39:52,157 --> 00:39:53,492
it's going from sound.
965
00:39:53,525 --> 00:39:54,626
- Just like a bat.
966
00:39:54,660 --> 00:39:55,927
This is sending
out a sound signal.
967
00:39:55,961 --> 00:39:57,429
- Correct.
- It's getting it back
968
00:39:57,463 --> 00:39:58,730
like a fish finder.
969
00:39:58,764 --> 00:39:59,965
It's going to show us
any shapes, anything...
970
00:39:59,998 --> 00:40:02,468
- Correct, this is
going to be looking at
971
00:40:02,501 --> 00:40:03,769
anything that's on the bottom
972
00:40:03,802 --> 00:40:04,903
or sticking out of the bottom.
973
00:40:04,936 --> 00:40:06,004
We're going to be able to see.
974
00:40:06,037 --> 00:40:07,639
- All right!
- All right!
975
00:40:07,673 --> 00:40:11,409
- [Amaryllis] All right,
let's get her in the water.
976
00:40:15,213 --> 00:40:17,549
- Chuck, we've been waiting
months for this right now.
977
00:40:17,583 --> 00:40:18,216
Let's go.
978
00:40:18,249 --> 00:40:19,217
- [Chuck] Let's go!
979
00:40:19,250 --> 00:40:22,521
(suspenseful music)
980
00:40:22,554 --> 00:40:23,188
Securitay, Securitay, Securitay,
981
00:40:23,221 --> 00:40:26,458
Towboat US25743,
982
00:40:26,492 --> 00:40:27,659
we're going to be doing
some bottom soundings
983
00:40:27,693 --> 00:40:32,063
workin' between Columbus
and Lakeshore Drive.
984
00:40:32,097 --> 00:40:35,701
- So we'll take the ship
in a kind of grid pattern?
985
00:40:35,734 --> 00:40:38,604
- Correct, we'll run it
along parallel to the shore,
986
00:40:38,637 --> 00:40:40,572
make several passes.
- [Amaryllis] I see.
987
00:40:43,274 --> 00:40:44,610
Tell us what we're looking at.
988
00:40:44,643 --> 00:40:45,243
- Basically what we have is
989
00:40:45,276 --> 00:40:46,745
the center line right here
990
00:40:46,778 --> 00:40:48,647
would be representative
of the fish,
991
00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:50,816
the path of the fish as
it's going in the water
992
00:40:50,849 --> 00:40:53,151
and we're pinging
out on either side.
993
00:40:53,184 --> 00:40:55,487
This bright return is our wall.
994
00:40:55,521 --> 00:40:56,988
- Oh!
- Wow!
995
00:40:57,022 --> 00:40:59,758
- You can see it's nice and
bright because it's steel,
996
00:40:59,791 --> 00:41:00,959
and basically what it is,
997
00:41:00,992 --> 00:41:03,128
it's picture you're
shining a flashlight
998
00:41:03,161 --> 00:41:04,496
over the bottom here.
999
00:41:04,530 --> 00:41:05,964
Where we're seeing
real bright spots,
1000
00:41:05,997 --> 00:41:08,133
it's hitting a
nice solid object,
1001
00:41:08,166 --> 00:41:10,502
bouncing back, and then
there's a shadow behind it
1002
00:41:10,536 --> 00:41:11,870
where your light wouldn't shine
1003
00:41:11,903 --> 00:41:13,539
and that's how we
can kind of see
1004
00:41:13,572 --> 00:41:15,774
that an object is sticking
up above the bottom
1005
00:41:15,807 --> 00:41:18,143
just because it's
the lack of data.
1006
00:41:18,176 --> 00:41:19,611
- And that would let us
know if there's something
1007
00:41:19,645 --> 00:41:21,613
that we could actually
pull up and crack open
1008
00:41:21,647 --> 00:41:24,215
and take a look at.
- Yes.
1009
00:41:24,249 --> 00:41:25,617
- So, as soon as
we get over there,
1010
00:41:25,651 --> 00:41:27,185
we'll be able to
start taking a look
1011
00:41:27,218 --> 00:41:29,955
and seeing what the fish finds.
1012
00:41:29,988 --> 00:41:31,189
- Without any physical proof
1013
00:41:31,222 --> 00:41:32,758
connecting Holmes
and the Ripper,
1014
00:41:32,791 --> 00:41:35,594
my theory will
always be questioned.
1015
00:41:35,627 --> 00:41:39,497
I'm hoping we'll finally
get some answers.
1016
00:41:42,133 --> 00:41:43,068
- We're approaching
- I'll start my dance.
1017
00:41:43,101 --> 00:41:44,703
- Okay.
- I'm really juiced.
1018
00:41:44,736 --> 00:41:46,504
- Let's see if we can't
find some concrete.
1019
00:41:49,608 --> 00:41:50,876
(suspenseful music)
1020
00:41:50,909 --> 00:41:53,078
- [Narrator] Next time
on American Ripper...
1021
00:41:53,111 --> 00:41:55,814
- We've got a crime
scene full of evidence.
1022
00:41:55,847 --> 00:41:57,082
- He's got all these creditors
1023
00:41:57,115 --> 00:41:58,283
about to stage an intervention
1024
00:41:58,316 --> 00:42:00,151
and arrest him, essentially.
1025
00:42:00,185 --> 00:42:01,653
- Yeah, so he thought
by getting out of town,
1026
00:42:01,687 --> 00:42:03,021
he could let a lot
of the heat off.
1027
00:42:03,054 --> 00:42:05,924
- This is Holmes's
escape plan from Chicago.
1028
00:42:05,957 --> 00:42:07,926
- Right, his second castle.
1029
00:42:07,959 --> 00:42:08,694
- [Amaryllis] Amazing.
1030
00:42:08,727 --> 00:42:10,261
- Strangely enough,
1031
00:42:10,295 --> 00:42:13,732
that's the actual beginning
of the end for H. H. Holmes.
1032
00:42:13,765 --> 00:42:15,333
- Only safe thing for him to do
1033
00:42:15,366 --> 00:42:18,236
was to get rid of
the whole family.
1034
00:42:18,269 --> 00:42:21,607
- These bones for Howard
Pitezel have not yet been found.
1035
00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:24,676
- We're going to dig down,
looking for human remains.
1036
00:42:24,710 --> 00:42:27,112
See if we can find
what's left of him.
1037
00:42:27,145 --> 00:42:28,046
What's that?
1038
00:42:28,079 --> 00:42:30,749
Possibly something in this area.
1039
00:42:30,782 --> 00:42:32,684
- This is a crime scene.
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