All language subtitles for American.Ripper.S01E05.Black.Heart,.White.City.1080p_track3_[eng]

af Afrikaans
sq Albanian
am Amharic
ar Arabic
hy Armenian
az Azerbaijani
eu Basque
be Belarusian
bn Bengali
bs Bosnian
bg Bulgarian
ca Catalan
ceb Cebuano
ny Chichewa
zh-CN Chinese (Simplified)
zh-TW Chinese (Traditional)
co Corsican
hr Croatian
cs Czech
da Danish
nl Dutch Download
en English
eo Esperanto
et Estonian
tl Filipino
fi Finnish
fr French
fy Frisian
gl Galician
ka Georgian
de German
el Greek
gu Gujarati
ht Haitian Creole
ha Hausa
haw Hawaiian
iw Hebrew
hi Hindi
hmn Hmong
hu Hungarian
is Icelandic
ig Igbo
id Indonesian
ga Irish
it Italian
ja Japanese
jw Javanese
kn Kannada
kk Kazakh
km Khmer
ko Korean
ku Kurdish (Kurmanji)
ky Kyrgyz
lo Lao
la Latin
lv Latvian
lt Lithuanian
lb Luxembourgish
mk Macedonian
mg Malagasy
ms Malay
ml Malayalam
mt Maltese
mi Maori
mr Marathi
mn Mongolian
my Myanmar (Burmese)
ne Nepali
no Norwegian
ps Pashto
fa Persian
pl Polish
pt Portuguese
pa Punjabi
ro Romanian
ru Russian
sm Samoan
gd Scots Gaelic
sr Serbian
st Sesotho
sn Shona
sd Sindhi
si Sinhala
sk Slovak
sl Slovenian
so Somali
es Spanish
su Sundanese
sw Swahili
sv Swedish
tg Tajik
ta Tamil
te Telugu
th Thai
tr Turkish
uk Ukrainian
ur Urdu
uz Uzbek
vi Vietnamese
cy Welsh
xh Xhosa
yi Yiddish
yo Yoruba
zu Zulu
or Odia (Oriya)
rw Kinyarwanda
tk Turkmen
tt Tatar
ug Uyghur
Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:05,406 --> 00:00:07,541 - We have letters from Ripper and Holmes here, 2 00:00:07,575 --> 00:00:10,211 and we're interested in your professional analysis. 3 00:00:10,244 --> 00:00:11,745 - My conclusions generally will 4 00:00:11,779 --> 00:00:15,083 steer an investigation in a certain way. 5 00:00:15,116 --> 00:00:17,285 - His intentions for this building 6 00:00:17,318 --> 00:00:20,588 were for murder and disposing of human remains. 7 00:00:20,621 --> 00:00:22,356 So where did these bodies go? 8 00:00:22,390 --> 00:00:24,425 'Cause people disappeared. 9 00:00:25,593 --> 00:00:27,461 - It sounds like a wood-burning furnace 10 00:00:27,495 --> 00:00:28,729 was in the basement. 11 00:00:28,762 --> 00:00:30,398 This was not an efficient or successful way 12 00:00:30,431 --> 00:00:32,566 of getting rid of a body. 13 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:35,236 That lawn, where the Murder Castle used to stand, 14 00:00:35,269 --> 00:00:39,140 is the only repository of Holmes' victims. 15 00:00:39,173 --> 00:00:41,809 - Well, I wouldn't say only. 16 00:00:41,842 --> 00:00:43,577 Everywhere that he owned real estate, 17 00:00:43,611 --> 00:00:46,114 you can be sure he was killing people. 18 00:00:46,147 --> 00:00:49,317 I have a theory that Holmes was encasing bodies in cement 19 00:00:49,350 --> 00:00:52,586 and dumping them in the Chicago River. 20 00:00:52,620 --> 00:00:54,188 (water gurgling) 21 00:00:54,222 --> 00:00:54,855 - Oh wow, oh wow-wow-wow-wow! - Wooh! 22 00:00:54,888 --> 00:00:56,657 - There we go. 23 00:00:56,690 --> 00:00:58,492 - Whoa! - Wow, see these? 24 00:00:58,526 --> 00:01:02,463 This is an indication that things have been dumped here. 25 00:01:03,431 --> 00:01:06,634 (dark electronic music) 26 00:01:12,773 --> 00:01:14,375 Can we hold it right in there? 27 00:01:14,408 --> 00:01:16,344 Now that's base, that's a base. - Yeah, that's a base. 28 00:01:16,377 --> 00:01:17,077 - Keep it-- - Whoa, look, okay. 29 00:01:17,111 --> 00:01:17,545 - That's a lot there, holy cow. 30 00:01:17,578 --> 00:01:19,280 - There, there... 31 00:01:19,313 --> 00:01:20,814 - They're all over the place. - Yeah. 32 00:01:20,848 --> 00:01:24,118 - Ex-CIA operative Amaryllis Fox and Jeff Mudgett, 33 00:01:24,152 --> 00:01:26,520 great-great grandson of H. H. Holmes, 34 00:01:26,554 --> 00:01:29,123 are on the Chicago River, hunting for evidence 35 00:01:29,157 --> 00:01:32,260 that could break open a 130-year-old mystery 36 00:01:32,293 --> 00:01:35,163 surrounding the identity of Jack the Ripper. 37 00:01:36,230 --> 00:01:39,233 - So we've got several impact areas 38 00:01:39,267 --> 00:01:41,235 which is an indication that says 39 00:01:41,269 --> 00:01:44,238 okay, something has been thrown in. 40 00:01:44,272 --> 00:01:45,706 - [Narrator] At the site of a cement warehouse 41 00:01:45,739 --> 00:01:47,841 that Holmes owned in 1891, 42 00:01:47,875 --> 00:01:50,644 they discovered a field of deep depressions 43 00:01:50,678 --> 00:01:52,746 scattered across the river bed, 44 00:01:52,780 --> 00:01:54,748 signs that the proof they're looking for 45 00:01:54,782 --> 00:01:57,551 could be hiding just beneath the surface, 46 00:01:57,585 --> 00:02:00,188 in an undiscovered burial ground. 47 00:02:00,221 --> 00:02:01,222 - Well, you have to be so close, 48 00:02:01,255 --> 00:02:03,424 because of the visibility. - Right. 49 00:02:03,457 --> 00:02:05,159 She just brushed the bottom there. 50 00:02:05,193 --> 00:02:06,260 - Yeah, and we've gotten a little close 51 00:02:06,294 --> 00:02:08,196 and it smokes things up. 52 00:02:08,229 --> 00:02:10,298 This is the issue, you know, 53 00:02:10,331 --> 00:02:12,533 we're fighting with visibility. 54 00:02:14,302 --> 00:02:16,837 - Records indicate that Holmes' cement warehouse 55 00:02:16,870 --> 00:02:19,173 purchased the raw materials to make concrete 56 00:02:19,207 --> 00:02:21,742 but never actually sold any. 57 00:02:21,775 --> 00:02:23,277 This is a man who may have killed 58 00:02:23,311 --> 00:02:25,713 hundreds of people and concocted elaborate schemes 59 00:02:25,746 --> 00:02:27,315 to cover his tracks. 60 00:02:28,316 --> 00:02:29,550 It's not a stretch to imagine 61 00:02:29,583 --> 00:02:32,953 that this was a front to dispose of bodies, 62 00:02:32,986 --> 00:02:35,423 and if that's true, we may just be feet away 63 00:02:35,456 --> 00:02:39,827 from the evidence we need to connect Holmes and the Ripper. 64 00:02:39,860 --> 00:02:42,230 - Is it possible that just the weather 65 00:02:42,263 --> 00:02:45,366 or some other cause created those craters? 66 00:02:45,399 --> 00:02:46,166 - No. 67 00:02:48,702 --> 00:02:51,739 These impacts look older. - Wow. 68 00:02:51,772 --> 00:02:53,541 - [Jeff] So that proves there's something under here. 69 00:02:53,574 --> 00:02:55,643 Now we need to figure out a way to get at it. 70 00:02:55,676 --> 00:02:57,411 - Exactly. - Exactly. 71 00:03:01,949 --> 00:03:03,351 - It would have taken something 72 00:03:03,384 --> 00:03:06,220 of fairly considerable weight 73 00:03:06,254 --> 00:03:07,588 to make that depression? 74 00:03:07,621 --> 00:03:10,491 - Yeah, I mean this is a really large debris field, 75 00:03:10,524 --> 00:03:14,228 right next to the physical property owned by Holmes. 76 00:03:14,262 --> 00:03:18,198 The potential of actually uncovering body parts 77 00:03:19,267 --> 00:03:20,968 or physical evidence of his crimes, 78 00:03:21,001 --> 00:03:23,404 that would be a huge breakthrough 79 00:03:23,437 --> 00:03:25,539 in a 125 year old crime. 80 00:03:25,573 --> 00:03:27,675 which is really, really rare. 81 00:03:27,708 --> 00:03:29,610 If we can recover the remains of a Holmes victim 82 00:03:29,643 --> 00:03:31,545 and conduct forensic analysis, 83 00:03:31,579 --> 00:03:33,381 we'll be able to compare it to the coroner's reports 84 00:03:33,414 --> 00:03:34,782 from the Ripper victims 85 00:03:34,815 --> 00:03:37,751 and see if their killing styles are a match. 86 00:03:37,785 --> 00:03:41,021 - I think we're the first that's ever considered 87 00:03:41,054 --> 00:03:42,756 the bottom of the Chicago River 88 00:03:42,790 --> 00:03:46,360 connecting H. H. Holmes and Jack the Ripper. 89 00:03:46,394 --> 00:03:48,962 - Yeah, if Holmes was encasing his victims in concrete, 90 00:03:48,996 --> 00:03:52,433 we could have the opportunity to uncover physical evidence 91 00:03:52,466 --> 00:03:55,636 and compare these two killers. 92 00:03:55,669 --> 00:03:57,004 So far our investigation has uncovered 93 00:03:57,037 --> 00:03:59,707 some key pieces of evidence that suggest a link 94 00:03:59,740 --> 00:04:02,009 between Holmes and Ripper. 95 00:04:02,042 --> 00:04:03,811 First we found that, like Holmes, 96 00:04:03,844 --> 00:04:06,480 the Ripper might have been a skilled doctor. 97 00:04:06,514 --> 00:04:08,449 We've also discovered a similar killing method, 98 00:04:08,482 --> 00:04:10,050 that both men asphyxiated their victims 99 00:04:10,083 --> 00:04:11,885 before dissecting them. 100 00:04:13,387 --> 00:04:14,622 It's interesting that Scotland Yard 101 00:04:14,655 --> 00:04:16,424 identified an American doctor 102 00:04:16,457 --> 00:04:19,026 as one of the top suspects in the Ripper case. 103 00:04:19,059 --> 00:04:20,928 And on top of that, they believe the Ripper 104 00:04:20,961 --> 00:04:23,764 might have been responsible for a New York City murder 105 00:04:23,797 --> 00:04:26,867 committed only a couple of years after the London attacks. 106 00:04:26,900 --> 00:04:28,502 And so I want to know what we can expect to find 107 00:04:28,536 --> 00:04:30,738 when we crack the concrete open. 108 00:04:30,771 --> 00:04:34,475 - Right, well, that's something we'll have to figure out. 109 00:04:38,546 --> 00:04:40,314 - [Narrator] To determine what kind of evidence 110 00:04:40,348 --> 00:04:42,516 might have survived beneath the riverbed, 111 00:04:42,550 --> 00:04:44,652 Jeff and Amaryllis consult with one of Chicago's 112 00:04:44,685 --> 00:04:47,588 top concrete manufacturers. 113 00:04:47,621 --> 00:04:48,756 - We hear that you're the man to see 114 00:04:48,789 --> 00:04:50,724 about encasing a body in concrete. 115 00:04:50,758 --> 00:04:53,427 - Well, first let me say, at Ozinga Concrete, 116 00:04:53,461 --> 00:04:55,829 we don't condone burying bodies in our concrete. 117 00:04:55,863 --> 00:04:57,030 - (chuckles) Noted. - All right. 118 00:04:57,064 --> 00:04:59,900 - I was a federal prosecutor for 20 years, 119 00:04:59,933 --> 00:05:02,002 an Assistant United States Attorney, 120 00:05:02,035 --> 00:05:04,905 and now I'm president of Ozinga Chicago, 121 00:05:04,938 --> 00:05:07,408 so I am familiar with some unfortunate times, 122 00:05:07,441 --> 00:05:10,411 where people were murdered and encased in concrete. 123 00:05:10,444 --> 00:05:12,613 And you know the old stereotype in Chicago, right? 124 00:05:12,646 --> 00:05:16,517 Cement overshoes, uh Chicago overcoat, and all that? 125 00:05:16,550 --> 00:05:19,086 It's how Al Capone would dispose of his enemies. 126 00:05:19,119 --> 00:05:21,822 Right now, we are in Al Capone's garage. 127 00:05:21,855 --> 00:05:23,391 - Stop it. - Right, wow! 128 00:05:23,424 --> 00:05:26,660 - 1932, at this very location, 129 00:05:26,694 --> 00:05:29,029 Eliot Ness and his Untouchables 130 00:05:29,062 --> 00:05:31,665 crashed through the door with battering rams 131 00:05:31,699 --> 00:05:35,002 and seized 140 barrels of bootleg beer. 132 00:05:35,035 --> 00:05:36,370 - In this garage? - In this very building? 133 00:05:36,404 --> 00:05:38,005 - The FBI? - Yeah. 134 00:05:38,038 --> 00:05:39,973 - Knowing how entrepreneurial Holmes was 135 00:05:40,007 --> 00:05:43,076 when it came to his criminal cons and schemes, 136 00:05:43,110 --> 00:05:44,277 it wouldn't surprise me in the least 137 00:05:44,311 --> 00:05:47,715 to find out that he essentially pioneered the technique 138 00:05:47,748 --> 00:05:50,017 that the most notorious mobsters in history 139 00:05:50,050 --> 00:05:54,154 adopted as their calling cards 50 years later. 140 00:05:54,187 --> 00:05:56,624 - In the 1890s, this is the exact technology they used. 141 00:05:56,657 --> 00:05:57,725 - All right. 142 00:05:57,758 --> 00:05:59,393 - Let's shovel it right in there. 143 00:05:59,427 --> 00:06:00,728 Okay, so we're going to make a nice lining 144 00:06:00,761 --> 00:06:03,096 along the bottom here. 145 00:06:03,130 --> 00:06:04,965 - [Narrator] Jeff and Amaryllis are about to field test 146 00:06:04,998 --> 00:06:07,134 the preservative power of concrete. 147 00:06:07,167 --> 00:06:09,102 - Now let's take Porky Pig over there 148 00:06:09,136 --> 00:06:10,838 and let's bury him in concrete. 149 00:06:10,871 --> 00:06:14,542 All right, Porky, you're gonna sleep with the fishes. 150 00:06:14,575 --> 00:06:17,010 - [Narrator] Using pig parts to approximate human remains... 151 00:06:17,044 --> 00:06:17,711 - Jeff, why don't you really 152 00:06:17,745 --> 00:06:19,947 smash that big piece down there? 153 00:06:19,980 --> 00:06:22,082 - [Narrator] They'll submerge the block in water, 154 00:06:22,115 --> 00:06:25,586 then return in two weeks to observe the effects. 155 00:06:25,619 --> 00:06:28,121 - That has a strange texture at the bottom of a shovel, 156 00:06:28,155 --> 00:06:30,624 I gotta tell ya. 157 00:06:30,658 --> 00:06:31,959 - I'm hoping this test will demonstrate 158 00:06:31,992 --> 00:06:33,427 whether or not the concrete provides 159 00:06:33,461 --> 00:06:34,562 enough of an airtight seal 160 00:06:34,595 --> 00:06:37,798 to protect it from oxygen and bacteria 161 00:06:37,831 --> 00:06:38,966 which would preserve whatever organic matter 162 00:06:38,999 --> 00:06:40,968 is buried inside. 163 00:06:41,001 --> 00:06:44,104 In this case, potentially one or more of Holmes's victims. 164 00:06:44,137 --> 00:06:46,807 - Amaryllis, did you learn to do this at the CIA? 165 00:06:46,840 --> 00:06:50,110 - This is outside of my realm of experience. 166 00:06:57,518 --> 00:06:59,119 - [Narrator] To pick up Holmes' trail, 167 00:06:59,152 --> 00:07:03,023 Jeff and Amaryllis meet with historian Adam Selzer. 168 00:07:03,056 --> 00:07:04,825 - I want to go back to building Holmes's timeline now 169 00:07:04,858 --> 00:07:08,128 because it's been so critical in generating new leads 170 00:07:08,161 --> 00:07:09,630 the last known victim of Holmes we discussed 171 00:07:09,663 --> 00:07:12,800 was Emeline Cigrand in December of 1892. 172 00:07:14,001 --> 00:07:16,036 We now really want to see 173 00:07:16,069 --> 00:07:20,941 whether there are any killings in 1893. 174 00:07:20,974 --> 00:07:24,011 - By '93, the World's Fair was about to start up in Chicago 175 00:07:24,044 --> 00:07:26,113 and there were a lot of people 176 00:07:26,146 --> 00:07:28,716 flooding into Chicago at the time. 177 00:07:28,749 --> 00:07:30,951 - It's my understanding that was the biggest event 178 00:07:30,984 --> 00:07:32,986 in world history until the time, right? 179 00:07:33,020 --> 00:07:35,956 - It was one of the bigger ones. 180 00:07:35,989 --> 00:07:38,659 - [Narrator] The 1893 World's Columbian Exposition 181 00:07:38,692 --> 00:07:41,194 commonly known as the World's Fair, 182 00:07:41,228 --> 00:07:43,597 is a showcase of technological achievement 183 00:07:43,631 --> 00:07:46,600 from across the globe that put Chicago on the map. 184 00:07:46,634 --> 00:07:48,201 Just two years before, 185 00:07:48,235 --> 00:07:50,971 a new iron marvel, the Eiffel Tower, 186 00:07:51,004 --> 00:07:53,040 greeted visitors at the Paris Exhibition 187 00:07:53,073 --> 00:07:56,043 and became an international sensation. 188 00:07:56,076 --> 00:07:58,946 But the grand size, scope, and breadth of achievements 189 00:07:58,979 --> 00:08:02,983 on display in Chicago sets a new global standard, 190 00:08:03,016 --> 00:08:05,619 one in every four Americans traveling to the Windy City 191 00:08:05,653 --> 00:08:07,154 to witness the marvel. 192 00:08:10,691 --> 00:08:12,125 - You know, millions of people were coming to town. 193 00:08:12,159 --> 00:08:14,928 It was a huge opportunity for everybody. 194 00:08:14,962 --> 00:08:17,064 Uh, so now H. H. Holmes has hired a Bemjamin Pitezel. 195 00:08:17,097 --> 00:08:19,099 Pitezel's a novelty dealer, 196 00:08:19,132 --> 00:08:21,101 he bought and sold patents now and then, 197 00:08:21,134 --> 00:08:23,103 he did a lot of odd jobs around the castle. 198 00:08:23,136 --> 00:08:25,573 And they found that they had a shared interest 199 00:08:25,606 --> 00:08:27,708 in dishonest business practices. 200 00:08:27,741 --> 00:08:29,577 - [Amaryllis] Really? - Interesting. 201 00:08:30,878 --> 00:08:32,946 - He was adding a third story onto his building 202 00:08:32,980 --> 00:08:35,215 and they had been buying all of this material 203 00:08:35,248 --> 00:08:39,286 ostensibly for the Castle hotel rooms on credit 204 00:08:39,319 --> 00:08:41,054 but then never actually paying for it. 205 00:08:41,088 --> 00:08:42,723 - Furniture... 206 00:08:42,756 --> 00:08:46,093 - Furniture, crockery, flooring, bedding, mattresses, 207 00:08:46,126 --> 00:08:48,261 everything you might need to furnish a hotel. 208 00:08:48,295 --> 00:08:49,897 - Holmes had already constructed 209 00:08:49,930 --> 00:08:51,799 his building on 63rd and Wallace 210 00:08:51,832 --> 00:08:54,902 by the time the World's Fair came to Chicago, 211 00:08:54,935 --> 00:08:57,037 but it's then that the building truly became 212 00:08:57,070 --> 00:08:59,039 the Murder Castle that we know. 213 00:08:59,072 --> 00:09:00,774 construction of the third floor meant 214 00:09:00,808 --> 00:09:02,843 more hotel rooms for guests, 215 00:09:02,876 --> 00:09:06,179 more money coming in and potentially, more victims. 216 00:09:06,213 --> 00:09:08,115 Sounds like Holmes was expecting 217 00:09:08,148 --> 00:09:10,350 a lot of business from the World's Fair. 218 00:09:10,383 --> 00:09:12,586 - Yeah I think it's just awfully convenient. 219 00:09:12,620 --> 00:09:16,023 - It's like the big game that he'd been preparing for. 220 00:09:16,056 --> 00:09:18,792 I mean, that sounds like something 221 00:09:18,826 --> 00:09:20,127 we need to investigate further. 222 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:22,095 I'd really like to get a better understanding 223 00:09:22,129 --> 00:09:26,099 of how the World's Fair impacted these dozens, 224 00:09:26,133 --> 00:09:28,969 maybe hundreds of alleged crimes the Holmes committed. 225 00:09:29,002 --> 00:09:30,203 - There's no doubt in my mind 226 00:09:30,237 --> 00:09:34,374 that the whole story evolves around the Fair, 227 00:09:34,407 --> 00:09:36,610 and he wouldn't have built the Murder Castle 228 00:09:36,644 --> 00:09:46,654 had the Fair not been coming to Chicago. 229 00:09:46,687 --> 00:09:49,022 - [Amaryllis] How long did the fair run in total? 230 00:09:49,056 --> 00:09:51,859 - Well, the Fair opened on May 1st, 1893, 231 00:09:51,892 --> 00:09:54,294 and closed at the end of October. 232 00:09:54,327 --> 00:09:55,963 - So, that would be about four years 233 00:09:55,996 --> 00:09:58,398 after the last Ripper murder. 234 00:09:58,431 --> 00:09:59,833 - [Narrator] Investigating the theory 235 00:09:59,867 --> 00:10:02,803 that 19th century serial murderer H. H. Holmes 236 00:10:02,836 --> 00:10:05,873 was Jack the Ripper, Jeff Mudgett and Amaryllis Fox 237 00:10:05,906 --> 00:10:08,709 have come to Chicago's Newberry Library 238 00:10:08,742 --> 00:10:12,312 to unlock the secrets of the 1893 World's Fair. 239 00:10:13,681 --> 00:10:16,349 - How many people came from around the country 240 00:10:16,383 --> 00:10:18,952 actually visit the Fair once it was up and running? 241 00:10:18,986 --> 00:10:23,891 - We know that the fair sold 27.3 million tickets. 242 00:10:23,924 --> 00:10:25,292 - Holy Smokes! - Whoa! 243 00:10:25,325 --> 00:10:26,293 - That must have been 244 00:10:26,326 --> 00:10:28,295 extraordinary for the time. 245 00:10:28,328 --> 00:10:31,298 I mean that would be an extraordinary event today. 246 00:10:31,331 --> 00:10:35,836 The Expo is a grand historical moment for Chicago, 247 00:10:35,869 --> 00:10:38,672 and for the expert predator, Holmes, 248 00:10:38,706 --> 00:10:40,073 who completes the conversion of his building 249 00:10:40,107 --> 00:10:41,975 into the Murder Castle, 250 00:10:42,009 --> 00:10:44,244 in anticipation of the Fair's official opening 251 00:10:44,277 --> 00:10:45,178 in May 1893. 252 00:10:47,114 --> 00:10:49,282 - People have made parallels to the Olympics and other 253 00:10:49,316 --> 00:10:52,019 sort of giant international spectacles like that. 254 00:10:52,052 --> 00:10:53,453 It was just a vast scale. 255 00:10:53,486 --> 00:10:56,189 You had 700 acres filled with exhibits. 256 00:10:56,223 --> 00:10:57,925 The business leaders felt 257 00:10:57,958 --> 00:11:00,728 that if Chicago was going to continue to grow and thrive, 258 00:11:00,761 --> 00:11:02,062 it needed to offer more 259 00:11:02,095 --> 00:11:05,966 than just grain elevators and railroad yards. 260 00:11:05,999 --> 00:11:07,801 It needed to have more culture. 261 00:11:07,835 --> 00:11:10,237 - [Narrator] The World's Fair of 1893 262 00:11:10,270 --> 00:11:12,439 celebrates America's transformation 263 00:11:12,472 --> 00:11:16,777 from a nation of agriculture into a nation of industry. 264 00:11:16,810 --> 00:11:18,946 The sprawling 600 acre fairgrounds 265 00:11:18,979 --> 00:11:21,815 contains an entire city within a city, 266 00:11:21,849 --> 00:11:23,917 complete with palatial exhibition halls, 267 00:11:23,951 --> 00:11:27,087 working canals, and stunning life-size replicas 268 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:29,256 of Christopher Columbus' three famed ships 269 00:11:29,289 --> 00:11:31,925 in honor of the 400th anniversary 270 00:11:31,959 --> 00:11:34,094 of his journey to America. 271 00:11:34,127 --> 00:11:35,729 Groundbreaking technologies, 272 00:11:35,763 --> 00:11:37,230 including the Ferris Wheel, 273 00:11:37,264 --> 00:11:39,466 washing machine, and moving sidewalk 274 00:11:39,499 --> 00:11:42,235 each make their debut. 275 00:11:42,269 --> 00:11:44,271 But for millions of visitors to Chicago, 276 00:11:44,304 --> 00:11:46,373 the premiere attraction of the fair 277 00:11:46,406 --> 00:11:49,877 is the opportunity to witness for the first time 278 00:11:49,910 --> 00:11:53,747 the newest marvel of the industrial age: 279 00:11:53,781 --> 00:11:55,916 the electric light. 280 00:11:55,949 --> 00:11:58,919 Rival inventors Thomas Edison and Nikola Tesla 281 00:11:58,952 --> 00:12:01,855 famously vie for the rights to light the Fair. 282 00:12:01,889 --> 00:12:04,858 Tesla wins out over his rival. 283 00:12:04,892 --> 00:12:06,927 The 100,000 light bulbs that eventually 284 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:08,929 illuminate the majestic fairgrounds 285 00:12:08,962 --> 00:12:11,999 help earn the Chicago World's Fair its nickname: 286 00:12:12,032 --> 00:12:13,867 The White City. 287 00:12:13,901 --> 00:12:15,302 - The headline speaker was the president. 288 00:12:15,335 --> 00:12:16,503 - President Cleveland. 289 00:12:16,536 --> 00:12:19,472 - Yeah, so you see Grover Cleveland, 290 00:12:19,506 --> 00:12:21,341 and on his little table, 291 00:12:21,374 --> 00:12:22,943 which was draped with the American flag, 292 00:12:22,976 --> 00:12:24,411 he pressed a button, 293 00:12:24,444 --> 00:12:28,548 and then all the lights on the fairgrounds turned on. 294 00:12:28,581 --> 00:12:30,017 - And that must have had 295 00:12:30,050 --> 00:12:31,118 an electrifying effect on the crowd itself. 296 00:12:31,151 --> 00:12:33,954 - [Diane] So that was a really sort of big moment. 297 00:12:33,987 --> 00:12:35,422 - It's just such a metaphor 298 00:12:35,455 --> 00:12:37,490 for the Industrial Age beginning, 299 00:12:37,524 --> 00:12:40,460 and you see this crush of humanity, 300 00:12:40,493 --> 00:12:44,464 I mean, this is like Times Square on New Year's Eve 301 00:12:44,497 --> 00:12:45,933 and you just get the sense 302 00:12:45,966 --> 00:12:50,237 that the city is kinda bursting at the seams. 303 00:12:50,270 --> 00:12:53,907 If this was a time that you wanted to undertake 304 00:12:53,941 --> 00:12:56,977 nefarious activity in the city, 305 00:12:57,010 --> 00:12:59,880 the focus of law enforcement was elsewhere. 306 00:12:59,913 --> 00:13:01,348 - Exactly, where there were more opportunities 307 00:13:01,381 --> 00:13:05,819 for people to kind of slip between the cracks. 308 00:13:05,853 --> 00:13:07,120 - Could you show us on the maps 309 00:13:07,154 --> 00:13:10,090 how far Holmes's Murder Castle was 310 00:13:10,123 --> 00:13:11,925 from the Fair itself? 311 00:13:11,959 --> 00:13:16,196 - Sure, you see here, picked out in red are the fairgrounds, 312 00:13:16,229 --> 00:13:17,831 and that little strip, 313 00:13:17,865 --> 00:13:18,932 the midway where the Ferris Wheel was, 314 00:13:18,966 --> 00:13:20,968 and if you went straight west, 315 00:13:21,001 --> 00:13:23,003 you would have come to the corner 316 00:13:23,036 --> 00:13:25,572 where Holmes' enterprise was based. 317 00:13:27,074 --> 00:13:28,942 - [Amaryllis] You could see that Ferris wheel 318 00:13:28,976 --> 00:13:30,210 from the Murder Castle. 319 00:13:30,243 --> 00:13:31,611 - [Diane] So, yeah, it was a perfect location. 320 00:13:31,644 --> 00:13:33,446 - [Amaryllis] Yea. 321 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:35,115 - It's chilling to imagine Holmes 322 00:13:35,148 --> 00:13:37,885 against the backdrop for this shining moment in America. 323 00:13:37,918 --> 00:13:38,852 His cons and killing methods, 324 00:13:38,886 --> 00:13:40,854 from New Hampshire to Michigan, 325 00:13:40,888 --> 00:13:44,057 to Chicago, to London, were now fully developed 326 00:13:44,091 --> 00:13:46,626 and this fair, just two miles from the Murder Castle, 327 00:13:46,659 --> 00:13:50,197 would have brought his victims straight to his doorstep. 328 00:13:50,230 --> 00:13:52,632 - How many people came to Chicago 329 00:13:52,665 --> 00:13:54,534 to be employed by the fair? 330 00:13:54,567 --> 00:13:55,969 There must have been thousands. 331 00:13:56,003 --> 00:13:57,905 - Yeah, a lot of people who thought 332 00:13:57,938 --> 00:14:00,407 they could come and get a job at the fair were disappointed, 333 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:02,943 because you know, there weren't as many jobs 334 00:14:02,976 --> 00:14:05,145 as people thought there were going to be. 335 00:14:05,178 --> 00:14:07,948 And it's parallel to this period of the late 19th century 336 00:14:07,981 --> 00:14:10,050 when there's a big expansion in women's education 337 00:14:10,083 --> 00:14:12,519 so women were going off to college and traveling alone. 338 00:14:12,552 --> 00:14:14,387 It's something that was becoming more common 339 00:14:14,421 --> 00:14:16,156 on a lot of fronts. 340 00:14:16,189 --> 00:14:17,925 - That paints for me a picture 341 00:14:17,958 --> 00:14:20,160 of women coming from their small towns 342 00:14:20,193 --> 00:14:22,963 thinking that they're going to arrive in the boom town, 343 00:14:22,996 --> 00:14:24,998 there's going to be lots of opportunity in the big city 344 00:14:25,032 --> 00:14:27,134 and that's exactly the kind of moment 345 00:14:27,167 --> 00:14:29,602 that Holmes enters your life. 346 00:14:29,636 --> 00:14:32,305 (dramatic music) 347 00:14:39,112 --> 00:14:41,915 - What could have been a more perfect place on earth 348 00:14:41,949 --> 00:14:43,583 for a killer of his nature 349 00:14:43,616 --> 00:14:47,620 than something like this, two miles from his hotel? 350 00:14:47,654 --> 00:14:49,389 This factory of death. 351 00:14:52,525 --> 00:14:54,494 This torture corporation. 352 00:14:58,598 --> 00:15:00,300 - From the sheer number of people 353 00:15:00,333 --> 00:15:01,634 who are coming through Chicago, 354 00:15:01,668 --> 00:15:03,470 right past the Murder Castle, 355 00:15:03,503 --> 00:15:05,939 you can easily speculate Holmes' body count 356 00:15:05,973 --> 00:15:08,675 just growing and growing during this period 357 00:15:08,708 --> 00:15:10,243 and it would have been impossible 358 00:15:10,277 --> 00:15:13,546 to dispose of that many bodies in the castle itself. 359 00:15:15,082 --> 00:15:17,050 Particularly striking that Diane said 360 00:15:17,084 --> 00:15:20,653 was the number of women who were arriving in Chicago alone 361 00:15:20,687 --> 00:15:22,622 for the first time, 362 00:15:22,655 --> 00:15:24,391 to come and visit the fair 363 00:15:24,424 --> 00:15:25,692 or potentially to work here, 364 00:15:25,725 --> 00:15:28,328 unaccompanied by a family member 365 00:15:28,361 --> 00:15:31,631 and not having any place to go. 366 00:15:31,664 --> 00:15:34,567 - It makes me think of that lion on the savanna 367 00:15:34,601 --> 00:15:36,269 over watching the herds, 368 00:15:36,303 --> 00:15:39,239 deciding which one he wanted tonight. 369 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:41,708 - Yeah, it's the ideal playground for him, 370 00:15:41,741 --> 00:15:43,676 as Whitechapel would have been. 371 00:15:43,710 --> 00:15:44,477 - Yeah... 372 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:49,116 - All of the Ripper's victims were women, 373 00:15:49,149 --> 00:15:50,717 all of them were prostitutes, 374 00:15:50,750 --> 00:15:53,486 and all of them were stalked at night, 375 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:55,222 (screaming) 376 00:15:55,255 --> 00:15:59,326 then strangled and dissected with increasing brutality. 377 00:15:59,359 --> 00:16:01,161 I want to know more about what life was like 378 00:16:01,194 --> 00:16:03,396 for the women that Holmes might have targeted, 379 00:16:03,430 --> 00:16:05,032 what that experience was, 380 00:16:05,065 --> 00:16:09,002 as a young woman arriving in H. H. Holmes' Chicago. 381 00:16:10,103 --> 00:16:12,739 (mysterious music) 382 00:16:14,807 --> 00:16:17,010 - One weekend, my great-great aunt took a trip 383 00:16:17,044 --> 00:16:19,746 to Chicago and was never heard from again, 384 00:16:19,779 --> 00:16:21,581 so I was always intrigued and haunted 385 00:16:21,614 --> 00:16:23,250 by this bit of family lore 386 00:16:23,283 --> 00:16:26,253 and especially more so, when I saw how prevalent it was 387 00:16:26,286 --> 00:16:28,321 in Chicago at the time. 388 00:16:28,355 --> 00:16:31,658 - [Narrator] Thousands of women arrived in the city in 1893. 389 00:16:31,691 --> 00:16:33,460 Amaryllis consults with an expert 390 00:16:33,493 --> 00:16:35,395 on 19th century women's history 391 00:16:35,428 --> 00:16:39,699 to learn more about their lives, and deaths. 392 00:16:39,732 --> 00:16:42,335 - We've just been hearing about the World's Fair 393 00:16:42,369 --> 00:16:44,771 and how many women were descending 394 00:16:44,804 --> 00:16:47,006 on Chicago at this moment. 395 00:16:48,775 --> 00:16:50,043 Well, about a thousand trains a day 396 00:16:50,077 --> 00:16:51,544 came and left Chicago, 397 00:16:51,578 --> 00:16:53,646 many of them bringing girls from all over the country 398 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:56,483 who would be met at Dearborn Street Station. 399 00:16:56,516 --> 00:16:59,452 And there the the unscrupulous madams 400 00:16:59,486 --> 00:17:01,521 or men offering employment, 401 00:17:01,554 --> 00:17:03,090 and these women were desperate. 402 00:17:03,123 --> 00:17:04,391 They needed to make money. 403 00:17:04,424 --> 00:17:06,193 They needed to find a living 404 00:17:06,226 --> 00:17:08,695 and a lot of these girls ended up in the brothels. 405 00:17:08,728 --> 00:17:10,330 - [Narrator] With millions of visitors in town 406 00:17:10,363 --> 00:17:14,434 for the Fair, Chicago's brothel business is booming. 407 00:17:14,467 --> 00:17:16,769 As many as 5,000 prostitutes 408 00:17:16,803 --> 00:17:19,139 work in more than 30 establishments 409 00:17:19,172 --> 00:17:21,774 across the city's red light district, 410 00:17:21,808 --> 00:17:24,377 just five miles from the fairgrounds. 411 00:17:24,411 --> 00:17:25,845 A woman working as a prostitute 412 00:17:25,878 --> 00:17:27,680 at the end of the 19th century 413 00:17:27,714 --> 00:17:30,417 could bring in more than 35 dollars a week, 414 00:17:30,450 --> 00:17:32,785 900 dollars in today's money, 415 00:17:32,819 --> 00:17:37,157 far more than any other job available to women at the time. 416 00:17:37,190 --> 00:17:40,427 - It's so striking how this area of Chicago 417 00:17:40,460 --> 00:17:43,330 was the American equivalent of Whitechapel 418 00:17:43,363 --> 00:17:46,499 in its conditions for prostitution and poverty. 419 00:17:46,533 --> 00:17:48,701 - Yeah, absolutely. 420 00:17:48,735 --> 00:17:49,802 I pulled some things aside 421 00:17:49,836 --> 00:17:51,371 that would give you a bigger picture 422 00:17:51,404 --> 00:17:53,640 of the red light district in Chicago at the time. 423 00:17:53,673 --> 00:17:56,743 All of the red lines here indicate brothels. 424 00:17:56,776 --> 00:17:58,311 - Oh, that's incredible. 425 00:17:58,345 --> 00:18:00,580 One of Holmes' Chicago properties 426 00:18:00,613 --> 00:18:03,616 was the ABC Copying Company, 427 00:18:03,650 --> 00:18:05,385 which was right in the vicinity 428 00:18:05,418 --> 00:18:08,188 of this long line of red brothels. 429 00:18:08,221 --> 00:18:09,622 I mean, if Holmes was operating 430 00:18:09,656 --> 00:18:12,159 as the Ripper in this environment, 431 00:18:12,192 --> 00:18:15,162 it would be very easy for him to take his victims 432 00:18:15,195 --> 00:18:17,597 a block back to this private office 433 00:18:17,630 --> 00:18:19,799 and go about his crimes there. 434 00:18:22,169 --> 00:18:24,471 So were there reports of women going missing 435 00:18:24,504 --> 00:18:25,672 in Chicago at the time? 436 00:18:25,705 --> 00:18:28,508 - Absolutely, in fact Chicago newspapers 437 00:18:28,541 --> 00:18:30,677 started running columns about missing girls 438 00:18:30,710 --> 00:18:33,246 and the police just did not have the resources 439 00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:36,616 to track down every report of a missing girl. 440 00:18:38,185 --> 00:18:42,355 And so these girls just sort of vanished. 441 00:18:42,389 --> 00:18:43,723 - Up until this point in the investigation 442 00:18:43,756 --> 00:18:46,426 all of Holmes' victims have been people he knew, 443 00:18:46,459 --> 00:18:48,161 whereas the Ripper targeted prostitutes 444 00:18:48,195 --> 00:18:50,597 who we assume he chose at random. 445 00:18:50,630 --> 00:18:52,232 I'd like to investigate these missing women 446 00:18:52,265 --> 00:18:54,834 to see if there are any patterns in their disappearance 447 00:18:54,867 --> 00:18:57,837 that link them to Holmes and to Ripper. 448 00:18:57,870 --> 00:19:00,773 (suspenseful music) 449 00:19:03,776 --> 00:19:05,445 - Police officers at the time had said 450 00:19:05,478 --> 00:19:08,715 there was probably up to about 800 women that disappeared, 451 00:19:08,748 --> 00:19:11,351 where they never found out what ever happened to them. 452 00:19:11,384 --> 00:19:12,952 - 800 young women missing a year, 453 00:19:12,985 --> 00:19:15,722 that number astounds me. 454 00:19:15,755 --> 00:19:17,190 - [Narrator] To dig deeper into the details 455 00:19:17,224 --> 00:19:18,958 of Chicago's lost women, 456 00:19:18,991 --> 00:19:21,461 Jeff meets with Ray Johnson, 457 00:19:21,494 --> 00:19:23,563 who's combed through newspaper reports from the period 458 00:19:23,596 --> 00:19:27,534 to identify any clues that connect them to H. H. Holmes. 459 00:19:29,269 --> 00:19:30,703 - Were you able to tie 460 00:19:30,737 --> 00:19:32,772 any of those 800 missing young women 461 00:19:32,805 --> 00:19:34,341 to Holmes' killings? 462 00:19:35,642 --> 00:19:37,544 - You know, there was a number of things I found 463 00:19:37,577 --> 00:19:40,313 about women with their throats cut, 464 00:19:41,914 --> 00:19:44,484 and the police, for some reason, 465 00:19:44,517 --> 00:19:45,618 coming to the conclusion 466 00:19:45,652 --> 00:19:47,987 that it was a suicide. 467 00:19:48,020 --> 00:19:50,923 Thing is, is that it's exceedingly difficult 468 00:19:50,957 --> 00:19:54,627 to kill yourself by cutting your own throat. 469 00:20:03,770 --> 00:20:05,772 - [Narrator] Investigating the unsolved disappearances 470 00:20:05,805 --> 00:20:08,741 of hundreds of women during the Chicago World's Fair... 471 00:20:08,775 --> 00:20:11,278 - Thing is, is that it's exceedingly difficult 472 00:20:11,311 --> 00:20:13,513 to kill yourself by cutting your own throat. 473 00:20:13,546 --> 00:20:14,847 - [Narrator] Former detective Ray Johnson 474 00:20:14,881 --> 00:20:16,649 shares a critical revelation 475 00:20:16,683 --> 00:20:19,952 that could link some of the deaths to H. H. Holmes. 476 00:20:19,986 --> 00:20:23,790 - This woman checked into a hotel with a gentleman 477 00:20:23,823 --> 00:20:25,792 just before the World's Fair opened 478 00:20:25,825 --> 00:20:28,895 in the late April of 1893. (woman laughing) 479 00:20:28,928 --> 00:20:32,299 Now, they signed in as Mr and Mrs Alexander. 480 00:20:32,332 --> 00:20:34,301 - Which is interesting, 481 00:20:34,334 --> 00:20:37,604 because I know there was an alias for Holmes 482 00:20:39,339 --> 00:20:43,042 which was an Alexander. - Never know. 483 00:20:43,075 --> 00:20:46,413 - The headline mentions her throat was cut 484 00:20:47,547 --> 00:20:50,283 and of course they called that a suicide as well. 485 00:20:50,317 --> 00:20:52,285 Now, I know that, with the World's Fair, 486 00:20:52,319 --> 00:20:54,454 Chicago didn't want any bad publicity. 487 00:20:54,487 --> 00:20:56,756 They were really concerned that that would affect 488 00:20:56,789 --> 00:20:59,992 the overall outcome of the fair. 489 00:21:00,026 --> 00:21:02,962 And there's another woman, Josephine Dielman, 490 00:21:02,995 --> 00:21:05,932 she had her throat cut from ear to ear. 491 00:21:05,965 --> 00:21:09,502 And again, this one they also said was a suicide. 492 00:21:09,536 --> 00:21:12,038 Every time I was looking into a case 493 00:21:12,071 --> 00:21:13,640 where a woman had cut her throat 494 00:21:13,673 --> 00:21:15,875 and there wasn't a named suspect, 495 00:21:15,908 --> 00:21:19,412 or there wasn't someone standing over the body with a knife, 496 00:21:19,446 --> 00:21:24,384 that they were very easily dissuaded to call it a suicide. 497 00:21:25,552 --> 00:21:30,089 Now, this is the one that really stood out to me. 498 00:21:30,122 --> 00:21:32,925 Jack the Ripper talk was excited here today by finding 499 00:21:32,959 --> 00:21:35,728 a woman's mutilated corpse. - Wow! 500 00:21:35,762 --> 00:21:37,530 - Nearly nude on the lakeshore railroad 501 00:21:37,564 --> 00:21:39,699 where it had been washed by the waves. 502 00:21:39,732 --> 00:21:41,067 Besides what's said to resemble 503 00:21:41,100 --> 00:21:43,570 the characteristic Ripper cut from the breast down, 504 00:21:43,603 --> 00:21:48,341 sound the legs had also been severed below the knees. 505 00:21:48,375 --> 00:21:51,010 - So it looks like we have evidence 506 00:21:51,043 --> 00:21:53,846 of Ripper-style killings in Chicago. 507 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:55,582 - [Ray] Right. 508 00:21:55,615 --> 00:21:59,352 - Because of the disemboweled victim and sliced throat. 509 00:21:59,386 --> 00:22:00,720 - That's what caught my eye. 510 00:22:00,753 --> 00:22:02,355 - Catches my eye, too. 511 00:22:02,389 --> 00:22:05,124 - I can't trust that there wouldn't be more of these 512 00:22:05,157 --> 00:22:07,994 but I do believe they were trying to keep 513 00:22:08,027 --> 00:22:10,797 so as not to generate any bad publicity 514 00:22:10,830 --> 00:22:13,032 for the city prior to the fair. 515 00:22:13,065 --> 00:22:16,035 - Finding reports of Ripper-like murders in Chicago 516 00:22:16,068 --> 00:22:18,938 during the exact years that Holmes was active here 517 00:22:18,971 --> 00:22:21,040 is huge for this investigation, 518 00:22:21,073 --> 00:22:22,975 and although we don't have police reports, 519 00:22:23,009 --> 00:22:25,478 if there were other crimes similar to this, 520 00:22:25,512 --> 00:22:28,748 the coroner's records would be our best shot. 521 00:22:28,781 --> 00:22:31,050 And those records do exist. 522 00:22:31,083 --> 00:22:33,686 - [Jeff] Then let's go find them. 523 00:22:38,625 --> 00:22:39,826 - [Narrator] North Eastern University 524 00:22:39,859 --> 00:22:41,928 houses the city's official coroner's records 525 00:22:41,961 --> 00:22:43,496 dating back to 1865. 526 00:22:44,564 --> 00:22:46,065 Amaryllis joins Jeff and Ray 527 00:22:46,098 --> 00:22:48,701 to search for evidence that could connect Holmes 528 00:22:48,735 --> 00:22:50,970 to the unsolved 1893 murders. 529 00:22:52,605 --> 00:22:53,840 - If a body was found, 530 00:22:53,873 --> 00:22:56,443 regardless of what condition or where it was, 531 00:22:56,476 --> 00:23:00,112 the coroner would decide what the cause of that was. 532 00:23:00,146 --> 00:23:02,114 I wonder how many unknown women 533 00:23:02,148 --> 00:23:05,852 were found with Ripper-esque type of murders in Chicago? 534 00:23:06,986 --> 00:23:08,921 - Now that's interesting. 535 00:23:08,955 --> 00:23:10,890 There's two of them, right next to each other. 536 00:23:10,923 --> 00:23:11,624 - [Jeff] What do you mean? 537 00:23:11,658 --> 00:23:13,159 - Unknown woman, unknown woman, 538 00:23:13,192 --> 00:23:14,994 throat cut from ear to ear. 539 00:23:15,027 --> 00:23:16,563 Couldn't have been a suicide, 540 00:23:16,596 --> 00:23:17,664 both on the same day. 541 00:23:17,697 --> 00:23:19,098 - [Amaryllis] Similar circumstances? 542 00:23:19,131 --> 00:23:21,968 - Yeah, this said they couldn't determine whether 543 00:23:22,001 --> 00:23:25,838 she came to death accidentally or otherwise. 544 00:23:25,872 --> 00:23:27,039 - [Amaryllis] So these are two women-- 545 00:23:27,073 --> 00:23:28,708 - These are two women found the same day. 546 00:23:28,741 --> 00:23:31,911 - Who both turn up the same day, unidentified. 547 00:23:31,944 --> 00:23:33,646 - That's troubling. 548 00:23:34,814 --> 00:23:36,148 - It would be really helpful 549 00:23:36,182 --> 00:23:38,017 if we knew when these suspicious deaths started. 550 00:23:38,050 --> 00:23:40,052 I think we need to go through, record by record, 551 00:23:40,086 --> 00:23:44,190 beginning right before Holmes arrives in Chicago in 1886. 552 00:23:44,223 --> 00:23:45,892 Earlier in our investigation, 553 00:23:45,925 --> 00:23:49,696 we uncovered the 1891 murder of Carrie Brown in New York. 554 00:23:49,729 --> 00:23:52,965 Scotland Yard and NYPD seriously speculated 555 00:23:52,999 --> 00:23:54,233 that Jack the Ripper had escaped London 556 00:23:54,266 --> 00:23:56,503 and continued his work in the States. 557 00:23:56,536 --> 00:23:58,671 Finding evidence of more Ripper-like killings 558 00:23:58,705 --> 00:24:00,740 here in Chicago during the time of the Fair 559 00:24:00,773 --> 00:24:02,975 feels like more than a coincidence. 560 00:24:03,009 --> 00:24:04,944 Now we just have to connect the timing of these murders 561 00:24:04,977 --> 00:24:06,979 to H. H. Holmes. 562 00:24:07,013 --> 00:24:08,848 No, no, suicidal intent... 563 00:24:10,583 --> 00:24:11,484 - So nothing in '84? 564 00:24:11,518 --> 00:24:13,052 - Nothing in '84. 565 00:24:13,085 --> 00:24:14,687 - [Ray] On to '85. 566 00:24:15,655 --> 00:24:17,156 - Nothing so far. 567 00:24:17,189 --> 00:24:19,526 Nope, factory accident... 568 00:24:19,559 --> 00:24:21,060 Record by record of '85, no. 569 00:24:21,093 --> 00:24:23,062 - Nothing in '85, all right. 570 00:24:23,095 --> 00:24:26,032 - We know that Holmes arrived in Chicago in 1886 571 00:24:26,065 --> 00:24:29,168 and was active there until late 1893, 572 00:24:29,201 --> 00:24:31,571 after the World's Fair had ended. 573 00:24:31,604 --> 00:24:33,039 - '86, so this is the time 574 00:24:33,072 --> 00:24:36,709 when Holmes would have first become active in Chicago. 575 00:24:36,743 --> 00:24:38,010 - Oh wait, hold on. 576 00:24:38,044 --> 00:24:40,713 There's one, unidentified woman, cut throat. 577 00:24:40,747 --> 00:24:42,982 - Just one for '86. 578 00:24:43,015 --> 00:24:45,017 Red-light district. 579 00:24:45,051 --> 00:24:47,954 - Shores of Lake Michigan, unidentified woman, 580 00:24:47,987 --> 00:24:50,189 cut from the breast down, 581 00:24:50,222 --> 00:24:52,992 unidentified woman, disemboweled. 582 00:24:53,025 --> 00:24:55,628 So that's the second in 1890. 583 00:24:55,662 --> 00:24:56,929 - [Ray] Two in 1890. 584 00:24:56,963 --> 00:24:58,698 - Print. - Is that another? 585 00:24:58,731 --> 00:25:01,701 - Unidentified woman, fourth for 1892. 586 00:25:02,969 --> 00:25:03,936 Three for 1893. 587 00:25:06,105 --> 00:25:07,039 1894, negative. 588 00:25:10,009 --> 00:25:12,144 - Get a load of this. 589 00:25:12,178 --> 00:25:16,115 1891, one, but then you have the big spike in '92. 590 00:25:17,249 --> 00:25:18,985 - [Amaryllis] Right. 591 00:25:19,018 --> 00:25:22,188 - He acquired the warehouse in 91. 592 00:25:22,221 --> 00:25:25,658 - Four unidentified women in 1892, 593 00:25:25,692 --> 00:25:26,959 then three more in 1893, 594 00:25:26,993 --> 00:25:29,662 and then zappo again. 595 00:25:29,696 --> 00:25:31,163 There's a definite spike in Ripper-like murders 596 00:25:31,197 --> 00:25:33,199 when Holmes is in Chicago, 597 00:25:33,232 --> 00:25:37,604 especially around the time of the World's Fair. 598 00:25:37,637 --> 00:25:38,871 We can't simply conclude 599 00:25:38,905 --> 00:25:41,073 that these women were victims of H. H. Holmes 600 00:25:41,107 --> 00:25:42,975 but the coincidence of his presence in the city 601 00:25:43,009 --> 00:25:45,712 and the gruesome but the familiar way these women died 602 00:25:45,745 --> 00:25:49,849 does add up suspiciously for both Ripper and Holmes. 603 00:25:49,882 --> 00:25:52,685 If these are in fact victims of Holmes, 604 00:25:52,719 --> 00:25:55,755 the fact that at least one of them was disemboweled 605 00:25:55,788 --> 00:25:58,057 from the sternum on down 606 00:25:58,090 --> 00:26:00,192 in the style of Jack the Ripper 607 00:26:00,226 --> 00:26:01,794 is really striking. 608 00:26:01,828 --> 00:26:02,595 - Yeah. 609 00:26:10,069 --> 00:26:11,337 There's a striking connection 610 00:26:11,370 --> 00:26:13,272 between the Jack the Rier murders 611 00:26:13,305 --> 00:26:14,807 and these these new murders, 612 00:26:14,841 --> 00:26:16,776 regarding unidentified women. 613 00:26:16,809 --> 00:26:19,345 - Well, the numbers here don't lie 614 00:26:19,378 --> 00:26:21,714 and all of these were just chalked up 615 00:26:21,748 --> 00:26:22,815 to accident at the time. 616 00:26:22,849 --> 00:26:24,050 - Yeah. 617 00:26:24,083 --> 00:26:25,752 We're discovering now with this research 618 00:26:25,785 --> 00:26:28,821 that there were many different ways 619 00:26:28,855 --> 00:26:30,189 that Holmes could have murdered 620 00:26:30,222 --> 00:26:31,691 and disposed of bodies. 621 00:26:31,724 --> 00:26:33,125 Yeah, and many different locations. 622 00:26:33,159 --> 00:26:34,627 Right. 623 00:26:34,661 --> 00:26:36,062 Most people think of all of these killings 624 00:26:36,095 --> 00:26:38,931 having taken place in the Murder Castle. 625 00:26:38,965 --> 00:26:41,000 We're now seeing more and more evidence 626 00:26:41,033 --> 00:26:43,202 that that just wasn't the case, 627 00:26:43,235 --> 00:26:46,739 and this is the first time that I've seen 628 00:26:46,773 --> 00:26:49,108 the same style of killing 629 00:26:49,141 --> 00:26:50,677 with the same kind of frequency 630 00:26:50,710 --> 00:26:52,712 as Jack the Ripper's victims were killed in London, 631 00:26:52,745 --> 00:26:54,213 happening in Chicago, 632 00:26:54,246 --> 00:26:57,083 and tied to the years that Holmes lived in the city. 633 00:26:57,116 --> 00:27:00,086 what struck me was how, over and over again, 634 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:01,954 when the police couldn't determine 635 00:27:01,988 --> 00:27:04,691 how these women were murdered 636 00:27:04,724 --> 00:27:05,925 they called them suicides. 637 00:27:05,958 --> 00:27:07,293 Now what does that mean? 638 00:27:07,326 --> 00:27:11,063 - Whether it was an organized conspiracy or not, 639 00:27:11,097 --> 00:27:14,266 by labeling them a suicide is a pretty simple and neat trick 640 00:27:14,300 --> 00:27:18,304 to prevent the kind of widespread fear 641 00:27:18,337 --> 00:27:19,972 that Jack the Ripper was inspiring 642 00:27:20,006 --> 00:27:21,841 in the public at the time. 643 00:27:23,309 --> 00:27:25,945 They became unwitting accomplices to Holmes 644 00:27:25,978 --> 00:27:27,780 as he was operating here. 645 00:27:27,814 --> 00:27:29,949 There's a pretty serious debate among Holmes experts 646 00:27:29,982 --> 00:27:33,085 as to how many people actually fell victim to his knife. 647 00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:34,954 Some say it's as few as nine, 648 00:27:34,987 --> 00:27:36,388 others think it's closer to 30, 649 00:27:36,422 --> 00:27:38,324 some say it's hundreds. 650 00:27:38,357 --> 00:27:39,959 If all of these Ripper-style Chicago killings 651 00:27:39,992 --> 00:27:42,061 were committed by one person 652 00:27:42,094 --> 00:27:45,297 then we're looking at the work of a mass murderer, 653 00:27:45,331 --> 00:27:47,867 and a master at inventing and evolving new ways 654 00:27:47,900 --> 00:27:51,303 to get rid of evidence and outsmart the law. 655 00:27:51,337 --> 00:27:52,905 It seems to me that the cement warehouse 656 00:27:52,939 --> 00:27:54,907 is going to be our biggest lead. 657 00:27:54,941 --> 00:27:58,010 There may actually be viable physical evidence 658 00:27:58,044 --> 00:27:59,812 inside those blocks of concrete. 659 00:27:59,846 --> 00:28:00,412 - Yeah. 660 00:28:09,856 --> 00:28:11,123 - We need to get that trunk out of there 661 00:28:11,157 --> 00:28:13,225 and see what this pig looks like. 662 00:28:13,259 --> 00:28:15,828 - [Narrator] It's been two weeks since Jeff and Amaryllis 663 00:28:15,862 --> 00:28:18,464 set out to test the preservation power of concrete. 664 00:28:18,497 --> 00:28:19,932 - We put it in concrete. 665 00:28:19,966 --> 00:28:23,102 It's hardened, we had it soaking in water. 666 00:28:23,135 --> 00:28:24,971 - [Narrator] Now, they'll discover if the submersion 667 00:28:25,004 --> 00:28:26,806 has had any effect on living tissue 668 00:28:26,839 --> 00:28:29,275 buried inside the solid block. 669 00:28:29,308 --> 00:28:32,044 - [Lloyd] All right, Mark, you're doin' a heck of a job. 670 00:28:32,078 --> 00:28:34,046 - All right, shall we crack this baby open? 671 00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:35,081 - [Jeff] Okay. 672 00:28:35,114 --> 00:28:36,448 - [Amaryllis] There we go. 673 00:28:36,482 --> 00:28:38,517 - [Jeff] All right. 674 00:28:38,550 --> 00:28:40,052 - Pig flesh often used as a stand-in 675 00:28:40,086 --> 00:28:42,088 for humans in forensic research, 676 00:28:42,121 --> 00:28:45,024 because the tissues and bone density are very similar. 677 00:28:45,057 --> 00:28:46,492 - [Jeff] All right. 678 00:28:46,525 --> 00:28:47,093 - If this test shows any preserving effect on the pig, 679 00:28:47,126 --> 00:28:49,862 it should give us an idea 680 00:28:49,896 --> 00:28:52,431 of what we can expect to find in those concrete blocks 681 00:28:52,464 --> 00:28:54,066 Holmes may have dropped in the river. 682 00:28:54,100 --> 00:28:57,103 (sledgehammer thudding) 683 00:28:59,005 --> 00:29:00,406 - There we go, blugh! 684 00:29:00,439 --> 00:29:02,975 - [Jeff] There we go. 685 00:29:03,009 --> 00:29:06,178 - [Lloyd] So what does it look like? 686 00:29:06,212 --> 00:29:08,881 - It looks like we just put it in there. 687 00:29:08,915 --> 00:29:10,149 Certainly nothing like, 688 00:29:10,182 --> 00:29:12,518 if you had just left pig out on the counter. 689 00:29:12,551 --> 00:29:13,352 - [Jeff] Right. 690 00:29:13,385 --> 00:29:14,787 This fascinates me, 691 00:29:14,821 --> 00:29:16,122 the contour of the concrete with the flesh. 692 00:29:16,155 --> 00:29:17,223 - [Amaryllis] Awesome. 693 00:29:17,256 --> 00:29:18,190 - I'm imagining what we're to find, 694 00:29:18,224 --> 00:29:20,993 that same thing after 100 years, correct? 695 00:29:21,027 --> 00:29:22,328 - Correct. 696 00:29:22,361 --> 00:29:24,964 Think about what causes the body to decompose? 697 00:29:24,997 --> 00:29:26,899 Bacteria, maggots, insects. 698 00:29:28,134 --> 00:29:30,036 When you've encased a body in concrete, 699 00:29:30,069 --> 00:29:31,303 there's no maggots that get in there, 700 00:29:31,337 --> 00:29:32,872 there's no insects that get in there, 701 00:29:32,905 --> 00:29:34,373 there's no other animal, 702 00:29:34,406 --> 00:29:38,010 so how can you best preserve a body for a hundred years? 703 00:29:38,044 --> 00:29:39,979 Encase it in concrete. 704 00:29:40,980 --> 00:29:41,547 - Yeah. 705 00:29:43,182 --> 00:29:44,851 - [Narrator] Forensic anthropologists maintain 706 00:29:44,884 --> 00:29:47,186 that human remains encased in concrete 707 00:29:47,219 --> 00:29:48,821 are likely to decompose slower 708 00:29:48,855 --> 00:29:51,858 due to the semi sterile environment. 709 00:29:51,891 --> 00:29:54,093 Anaerobic bacteria that breaks down a corpse 710 00:29:54,126 --> 00:29:55,895 is unable to function efficiently 711 00:29:55,928 --> 00:29:58,097 with lower oxygen levels. 712 00:29:58,130 --> 00:29:59,298 Research suggests that, 713 00:29:59,331 --> 00:30:01,834 if the concrete is enclosed in a container, 714 00:30:01,868 --> 00:30:04,103 further limiting exposure to the elements, 715 00:30:04,136 --> 00:30:08,074 the human body could potentially survive up to 500 years. 716 00:30:09,475 --> 00:30:10,509 - [Lloyd] You break open that concrete, 717 00:30:10,542 --> 00:30:14,046 you would see striations, cut marks on the bones. 718 00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:15,047 - [Amaryllis] Wow, so we're talking about 719 00:30:15,081 --> 00:30:16,615 a forensic time capsule. 720 00:30:16,648 --> 00:30:17,950 - [Jeff] Oh yeah. 721 00:30:20,086 --> 00:30:21,320 - [Amaryllis] The prospect of being able 722 00:30:21,353 --> 00:30:25,257 to examine a victim of Holmes 125 years later, 723 00:30:25,291 --> 00:30:27,093 and determine if they were killed in the same way 724 00:30:27,126 --> 00:30:28,861 as several of Jack the Ripper's victims 725 00:30:28,895 --> 00:30:31,597 were killed in London, seemed unthinkable. 726 00:30:31,630 --> 00:30:36,035 But looking at how pristine this tissue is, 727 00:30:36,068 --> 00:30:38,270 now it seem like we might have our chance. 728 00:30:38,304 --> 00:30:39,505 Biggest problem is not 729 00:30:39,538 --> 00:30:42,141 what forensic scientists could learn today, 730 00:30:42,174 --> 00:30:43,475 the biggest problem is 731 00:30:43,509 --> 00:30:45,644 you're looking for a needle in a haystack. 732 00:30:45,677 --> 00:30:48,114 - Even more important that we actually do determine 733 00:30:48,147 --> 00:30:50,516 what's at the bottom of the river in that silt. 734 00:30:50,549 --> 00:30:53,452 (suspenseful music) 735 00:30:58,290 --> 00:31:00,993 - Obviously two weeks is not 125 years, 736 00:31:01,027 --> 00:31:02,394 but those pig parts that we pulled out 737 00:31:02,428 --> 00:31:03,996 of the water and the concrete, 738 00:31:04,030 --> 00:31:05,497 I mean, they weren't perfect, 739 00:31:05,531 --> 00:31:08,267 but they were nowhere near the decomposition 740 00:31:08,300 --> 00:31:10,269 you would expect to see after two weeks. 741 00:31:10,302 --> 00:31:13,139 And that is exciting, because it suggests 742 00:31:13,172 --> 00:31:15,307 that if there is concrete in the bottom of the river 743 00:31:15,341 --> 00:31:19,178 and that concrete does have Holmes' victims in it, 744 00:31:19,211 --> 00:31:21,380 this physical evidence could shed light 745 00:31:21,413 --> 00:31:23,682 on how Holmes was killing his victims, 746 00:31:23,715 --> 00:31:26,418 what his murder weapon of choice was, 747 00:31:26,452 --> 00:31:29,021 how he was disposing of their bodies 748 00:31:29,055 --> 00:31:31,457 and all of those are incredibly important 749 00:31:31,490 --> 00:31:34,326 in understanding who Holmes was as a killer, 750 00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:36,963 and whether it's possible that he and Ripper 751 00:31:36,996 --> 00:31:38,931 were one and the same. 752 00:31:40,132 --> 00:31:41,167 I know from personal experience 753 00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:42,935 we can't just hire a dive team 754 00:31:42,969 --> 00:31:45,104 based off video of the river floor. 755 00:31:45,137 --> 00:31:46,438 We're going to need detailed coordinates 756 00:31:46,472 --> 00:31:48,107 and dimensions of the objects 757 00:31:48,140 --> 00:31:50,109 in order to get permission to dive the site 758 00:31:50,142 --> 00:31:52,211 and cover any remains. 759 00:31:52,244 --> 00:31:53,612 I'm going to reach out to the recovery team 760 00:31:53,645 --> 00:31:55,314 and see whether we can get back out on the river 761 00:31:55,347 --> 00:31:56,415 in the next couple days. 762 00:31:56,448 --> 00:31:58,184 - [Jeff] Yeah, agreed. 763 00:31:58,217 --> 00:32:01,687 Whoa, whoa, I got a text from Dennis, the forensic analyst. 764 00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:05,091 He says his results from the handwriting analysis 765 00:32:05,124 --> 00:32:06,592 is ready to go. 766 00:32:06,625 --> 00:32:08,560 - Great, let's head back. 767 00:32:13,065 --> 00:32:14,333 Dennis! - Hi, you're back. 768 00:32:14,366 --> 00:32:15,667 - Can't wait to hear what you found. 769 00:32:15,701 --> 00:32:19,105 - We've done quite a bit of work on your case... 770 00:32:19,138 --> 00:32:21,573 - [Narrator] Hand writing specialist Dennis Ryan 771 00:32:21,607 --> 00:32:24,543 and his forensics team have conducted a detailed analysis 772 00:32:24,576 --> 00:32:28,247 of handwriting samples uncovered in the investigation. 773 00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:31,050 His results will reveal whether the writings of H. H. Holmes 774 00:32:31,083 --> 00:32:33,685 match the known writings of Jack the Ripper. 775 00:32:33,719 --> 00:32:35,421 - Pictures worth a thousand words. 776 00:32:35,454 --> 00:32:44,663 We have some results that are interesting. 777 00:32:44,696 --> 00:32:47,066 We've done quite a bit of work. 778 00:32:47,099 --> 00:32:49,001 - [Narrator] The Dear Boss and Saucy Jack letters 779 00:32:49,035 --> 00:32:53,239 believed to have been written by Jack the Ripper in 1888, 780 00:32:53,272 --> 00:32:55,674 and several samples written by H. H. Holmes 781 00:32:55,707 --> 00:32:58,510 at various points over a 20-year period 782 00:32:58,544 --> 00:33:01,580 including a letter and a receipt. 783 00:33:01,613 --> 00:33:03,715 The first thing we did was compare the variation 784 00:33:03,749 --> 00:33:05,284 in one's writing. 785 00:33:06,285 --> 00:33:07,753 - [Narrator] Like a fingerprint, 786 00:33:07,786 --> 00:33:10,456 an individual's handwriting is completely unique. 787 00:33:10,489 --> 00:33:11,657 A highly trained specialist, 788 00:33:11,690 --> 00:33:13,792 known as a forensic document examiner, 789 00:33:13,825 --> 00:33:15,661 analyzes up to 40 different elements 790 00:33:15,694 --> 00:33:17,429 of a person's handwriting, 791 00:33:17,463 --> 00:33:20,066 including the size, spacing, and slant of a letter 792 00:33:20,099 --> 00:33:22,801 to determine the origin and authenticity of a document, 793 00:33:22,834 --> 00:33:24,370 and whether two pieces of writing 794 00:33:24,403 --> 00:33:26,705 were penned by the same hand. 795 00:33:28,207 --> 00:33:30,642 - I'm not an expert but I do have some analytical training 796 00:33:30,676 --> 00:33:32,311 and I can see that Holmes's writing style 797 00:33:32,344 --> 00:33:34,580 had variation over the years. 798 00:33:34,613 --> 00:33:36,348 I can see definite differences 799 00:33:36,382 --> 00:33:38,284 in the way he forms specific letters 800 00:33:38,317 --> 00:33:39,751 that make me wonder whether he was intentionally 801 00:33:39,785 --> 00:33:41,620 disguising his writing. 802 00:33:43,489 --> 00:33:45,524 Okay, now the $64,000 question. 803 00:33:45,557 --> 00:33:47,459 Is it possible the same person wrote 804 00:33:47,493 --> 00:33:48,594 both the Jack the Ripper letters 805 00:33:48,627 --> 00:33:50,429 and the Holmes samples? 806 00:33:50,462 --> 00:33:52,764 - That's a very good question. 807 00:33:52,798 --> 00:33:54,600 I'll show you some results. 808 00:33:54,633 --> 00:33:55,834 In this particular case, 809 00:33:55,867 --> 00:33:59,071 these Holmes samples came in a letter called 810 00:33:59,105 --> 00:34:01,207 the Attorney Graham letter. 811 00:34:02,574 --> 00:34:04,643 In this particular slide, 812 00:34:04,676 --> 00:34:09,481 we had set three samples from the Attorney Graham, 813 00:34:09,515 --> 00:34:12,784 and these are not consistent with the samples 814 00:34:12,818 --> 00:34:18,324 from the Dear Boss or Saucy Jack letters. 815 00:34:18,357 --> 00:34:20,492 The closed portion of the h 816 00:34:21,727 --> 00:34:23,729 in the Dear Boss is open, 817 00:34:23,762 --> 00:34:26,165 and the e formation is flat and closed, 818 00:34:26,198 --> 00:34:27,766 almost like a bump, 819 00:34:27,799 --> 00:34:29,801 and that's inconsistent with 820 00:34:29,835 --> 00:34:34,273 what's found in the letters from Jack the Ripper. 821 00:34:34,306 --> 00:34:37,876 In this last sample from the Attorney Graham, 822 00:34:37,909 --> 00:34:41,280 the y formation comes back and loops. 823 00:34:41,313 --> 00:34:44,716 In the Attorney Graham, it's just one stroke down 824 00:34:44,750 --> 00:34:46,652 and that finishes the letter. 825 00:34:46,685 --> 00:34:49,555 So with finding inconsistencies and the style 826 00:34:49,588 --> 00:34:52,624 and the skill of the writer is different. 827 00:34:52,658 --> 00:34:54,126 - [Amaryllis] Damn. 828 00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:56,728 - This was another sample that was submitted. 829 00:34:56,762 --> 00:34:58,697 The H. H. Holmes receipt. 830 00:34:58,730 --> 00:35:00,632 But this, we were unable to determine 831 00:35:00,666 --> 00:35:02,301 if this was consistent 832 00:35:02,334 --> 00:35:05,571 with the Dear Boss or Saucy Jack letters. 833 00:35:05,604 --> 00:35:06,872 - [Amaryllis] Why? 834 00:35:06,905 --> 00:35:08,674 - Because the style of the writing is different 835 00:35:08,707 --> 00:35:11,477 and the formation of some of the letters. 836 00:35:11,510 --> 00:35:12,678 Here's the word, payment. 837 00:35:12,711 --> 00:35:14,513 P in the payment and the other one 838 00:35:14,546 --> 00:35:17,483 had an open bottom to it. 839 00:35:17,516 --> 00:35:20,619 But then the m-e was one of the letter combinations 840 00:35:20,652 --> 00:35:23,155 that we found to be similar. 841 00:35:23,189 --> 00:35:24,490 - So when there are characteristics 842 00:35:24,523 --> 00:35:25,857 that are consistent 843 00:35:25,891 --> 00:35:28,260 and characteristics that are not consistent, how-- 844 00:35:28,294 --> 00:35:29,661 - You would be inconclusive. 845 00:35:29,695 --> 00:35:30,729 - Inconclusive. - Correct. 846 00:35:30,762 --> 00:35:32,198 - [Amaryllis] Interesting. 847 00:35:32,231 --> 00:35:33,665 - The receipt that we picked up 848 00:35:33,699 --> 00:35:35,467 in our investigation in New Hampshire 849 00:35:35,501 --> 00:35:38,537 is the earliest known document with Holmes's writing. 850 00:35:38,570 --> 00:35:40,306 He was 17 years old. 851 00:35:40,339 --> 00:35:43,209 He would have been 27 when the Ripper letters were written 852 00:35:43,242 --> 00:35:45,944 and 33 when he wrote the Attorney Graham letter. 853 00:35:45,977 --> 00:35:47,379 I have to wonder why his writing 854 00:35:47,413 --> 00:35:49,781 changed so drastically over the years 855 00:35:49,815 --> 00:35:52,918 So if you cannot form a conclusive judgment 856 00:35:52,951 --> 00:35:57,423 about whether this receipt written by H. H. Holmes 857 00:35:57,456 --> 00:35:59,758 and the Dear Boss letter were penned by the same hand. 858 00:35:59,791 --> 00:36:00,659 - That's correct. 859 00:36:00,692 --> 00:36:02,561 - But you can't rule it out. 860 00:36:02,594 --> 00:36:03,262 - Can't rule it out, 861 00:36:03,295 --> 00:36:05,764 can't say yes or can't say no. 862 00:36:05,797 --> 00:36:06,798 - Well, I can tell you this. 863 00:36:06,832 --> 00:36:10,702 Your inconclusive conclusion means 864 00:36:10,736 --> 00:36:12,804 that Holmes could have been Jack the Ripper. 865 00:36:12,838 --> 00:36:16,442 We've got to get to the bottom of that river. 866 00:36:16,475 --> 00:36:19,311 (suspenseful music) 867 00:36:20,846 --> 00:36:23,649 - As you know Jeff and I are on the Holmes trail. 868 00:36:23,682 --> 00:36:26,318 We have a bit of a treasure hunt for you. 869 00:36:26,352 --> 00:36:27,986 - [Narrator] The next step is river investigation 870 00:36:28,019 --> 00:36:30,589 is to pinpoint specific coordinates for a dive. 871 00:36:30,622 --> 00:36:32,524 Jeff and Amaryllis meet 872 00:36:32,558 --> 00:36:36,395 with an underwater recovery specialist to strategize. 873 00:36:36,428 --> 00:36:39,498 - We have already taken a first look 874 00:36:39,531 --> 00:36:40,866 at the bottom of the Chicago River, 875 00:36:40,899 --> 00:36:42,701 and we've brought some video here 876 00:36:42,734 --> 00:36:44,803 to show you what we found, 877 00:36:44,836 --> 00:36:47,506 and it's what has led us to you. 878 00:36:47,539 --> 00:36:49,275 Now the Chicago River, it gets pretty murky 879 00:36:49,308 --> 00:36:50,742 and you can see from this video. 880 00:36:50,776 --> 00:36:52,010 You can see there 881 00:36:52,043 --> 00:36:55,381 these really unusual craters and divots 882 00:36:55,414 --> 00:36:58,417 and we're hoping that, with your assistance, 883 00:36:58,450 --> 00:37:00,752 we might be able to pinpoint the exact locations 884 00:37:00,786 --> 00:37:02,521 and dimensions of whatever's down there 885 00:37:02,554 --> 00:37:04,290 so we can share it with the dive team. 886 00:37:04,323 --> 00:37:07,393 - Well, yeah, we handle problems like this. 887 00:37:07,426 --> 00:37:09,761 So looking for debris that's been buried 888 00:37:09,795 --> 00:37:11,263 or you know, at the surface 889 00:37:11,297 --> 00:37:13,265 is something that we typically do 890 00:37:13,299 --> 00:37:16,468 and those same applications can be applied to this. 891 00:37:16,502 --> 00:37:17,703 We do look for debris. 892 00:37:17,736 --> 00:37:19,037 I see from the video, 893 00:37:19,070 --> 00:37:20,806 the water is a little bit of murky at times 894 00:37:20,839 --> 00:37:22,774 so but one of the process we do is 895 00:37:22,808 --> 00:37:24,943 we do what we call site scan sonar. 896 00:37:24,976 --> 00:37:26,745 It's using sonar rather than the visual wavelength 897 00:37:26,778 --> 00:37:29,281 tied in with the GPS 898 00:37:29,315 --> 00:37:32,050 and we can make actually mosaic of the bottom. 899 00:37:32,083 --> 00:37:35,687 I have examples from a bridge that we just recently did. 900 00:37:35,721 --> 00:37:37,956 You can see how the images of logs 901 00:37:37,989 --> 00:37:40,592 and pieces of concrete debris 902 00:37:40,626 --> 00:37:42,027 are scattered there 903 00:37:42,060 --> 00:37:44,630 and sometimes you begin to get the detail, 904 00:37:44,663 --> 00:37:46,732 even the gory details. 905 00:37:46,765 --> 00:37:49,768 Now this is somebody to fell overboard 906 00:37:50,936 --> 00:37:53,772 and that's two weeks in the water. 907 00:37:53,805 --> 00:37:55,341 - So that's very high-resolution. 908 00:37:55,374 --> 00:37:56,942 you really can get a sense of the shape 909 00:37:56,975 --> 00:37:58,677 and volume of what you're looking at. 910 00:37:58,710 --> 00:37:59,778 - Yes, exactly. 911 00:37:59,811 --> 00:38:01,880 - And we know that it's a long shot 912 00:38:01,913 --> 00:38:05,016 but the truth is that after a hundred years plus, 913 00:38:05,050 --> 00:38:06,785 for me, as a cold-case investigator, 914 00:38:06,818 --> 00:38:09,688 the chance to actually examine physical evidence 915 00:38:09,721 --> 00:38:11,890 to link the two killers we're investigating 916 00:38:11,923 --> 00:38:15,694 is really the brass ring for this investigation. 917 00:38:15,727 --> 00:38:16,528 I think we should get down there 918 00:38:16,562 --> 00:38:22,401 and see what we can find. 919 00:38:22,434 --> 00:38:25,704 (suspensef(seagulls cawin) 920 00:38:25,737 --> 00:38:27,706 - We're about seven minutes from the spot. 921 00:38:27,739 --> 00:38:29,941 How long will it take you to deploy the site scanner? 922 00:38:29,975 --> 00:38:31,543 Probably take about less than five minutes 923 00:38:31,577 --> 00:38:32,378 to deploy that and start pinging. 924 00:38:32,411 --> 00:38:34,012 - [Jeff] Okay. 925 00:38:34,045 --> 00:38:34,980 - [Narrator] Jeff and Amaryllis 926 00:38:35,013 --> 00:38:36,715 are on the cusp of discovering 927 00:38:36,748 --> 00:38:39,418 whether concrete blocks at the bottom of the Chicago River 928 00:38:39,451 --> 00:38:41,820 could contain a break in the case, 929 00:38:41,853 --> 00:38:44,923 possible victims of H. H. Holmes. 930 00:38:44,956 --> 00:38:46,558 - It's pretty amazing to think 931 00:38:46,592 --> 00:38:49,961 that right there was Holmes's cement storage facility. 932 00:38:52,531 --> 00:38:53,565 He had a pier here. 933 00:38:53,599 --> 00:38:54,900 You can imagine him standing, 934 00:38:54,933 --> 00:38:56,134 looking out at all of the boats 935 00:38:56,167 --> 00:38:57,603 coming up and down the river 936 00:38:57,636 --> 00:39:01,473 and not expecting that a hundred years later 937 00:39:01,507 --> 00:39:03,975 we'd be out here with all of this forensic technology 938 00:39:04,009 --> 00:39:06,445 taking a look at what he left for us 939 00:39:06,478 --> 00:39:07,913 on the bottom of the river. 940 00:39:07,946 --> 00:39:09,581 - With those types of facilities 941 00:39:09,615 --> 00:39:11,517 and knowing the man he was, 942 00:39:11,550 --> 00:39:14,586 it strikes me as odd some people would even doubt 943 00:39:14,620 --> 00:39:16,855 how plausible this theory is 944 00:39:16,888 --> 00:39:19,625 that he used the river to discard the bodies. 945 00:39:19,658 --> 00:39:22,761 - If he did use that technique to get rid of the bodies 946 00:39:22,794 --> 00:39:25,731 what kind of size blocks are we looking at? 947 00:39:25,764 --> 00:39:28,166 - Let's cross our fingers that he had to use 948 00:39:28,199 --> 00:39:30,001 some big blocks once in a while. 949 00:39:30,035 --> 00:39:32,137 We might be able to detect them far easier. 950 00:39:32,170 --> 00:39:33,472 - Yeah... 951 00:39:33,505 --> 00:39:35,874 If we can get exact GPS coordinates 952 00:39:35,907 --> 00:39:37,809 and a sense of how large the blocks are 953 00:39:37,843 --> 00:39:39,611 then we'll be able to send in a dive team 954 00:39:39,645 --> 00:39:41,547 to retrieve the evidence. 955 00:39:41,580 --> 00:39:42,448 All right! 956 00:39:42,481 --> 00:39:43,615 - [Jeff] Let's launch. 957 00:39:43,649 --> 00:39:44,182 - [Amaryllis] All right, let's do it! 958 00:39:44,215 --> 00:39:45,884 Wow, so this is it, huh? 959 00:39:45,917 --> 00:39:47,085 - Yes. 960 00:39:47,118 --> 00:39:47,686 - Tell us a little about this bad boy. 961 00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:48,887 It's pretty cool-looking. 962 00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:50,656 - Yeah, this is our sonar fish. 963 00:39:50,689 --> 00:39:52,123 Doesn't matter how murky the water is, 964 00:39:52,157 --> 00:39:53,492 it's going from sound. 965 00:39:53,525 --> 00:39:54,626 - Just like a bat. 966 00:39:54,660 --> 00:39:55,927 This is sending out a sound signal. 967 00:39:55,961 --> 00:39:57,429 - Correct. - It's getting it back 968 00:39:57,463 --> 00:39:58,730 like a fish finder. 969 00:39:58,764 --> 00:39:59,965 It's going to show us any shapes, anything... 970 00:39:59,998 --> 00:40:02,468 - Correct, this is going to be looking at 971 00:40:02,501 --> 00:40:03,769 anything that's on the bottom 972 00:40:03,802 --> 00:40:04,903 or sticking out of the bottom. 973 00:40:04,936 --> 00:40:06,004 We're going to be able to see. 974 00:40:06,037 --> 00:40:07,639 - All right! - All right! 975 00:40:07,673 --> 00:40:11,409 - [Amaryllis] All right, let's get her in the water. 976 00:40:15,213 --> 00:40:17,549 - Chuck, we've been waiting months for this right now. 977 00:40:17,583 --> 00:40:18,216 Let's go. 978 00:40:18,249 --> 00:40:19,217 - [Chuck] Let's go! 979 00:40:19,250 --> 00:40:22,521 (suspenseful music) 980 00:40:22,554 --> 00:40:23,188 Securitay, Securitay, Securitay, 981 00:40:23,221 --> 00:40:26,458 Towboat US25743, 982 00:40:26,492 --> 00:40:27,659 we're going to be doing some bottom soundings 983 00:40:27,693 --> 00:40:32,063 workin' between Columbus and Lakeshore Drive. 984 00:40:32,097 --> 00:40:35,701 - So we'll take the ship in a kind of grid pattern? 985 00:40:35,734 --> 00:40:38,604 - Correct, we'll run it along parallel to the shore, 986 00:40:38,637 --> 00:40:40,572 make several passes. - [Amaryllis] I see. 987 00:40:43,274 --> 00:40:44,610 Tell us what we're looking at. 988 00:40:44,643 --> 00:40:45,243 - Basically what we have is 989 00:40:45,276 --> 00:40:46,745 the center line right here 990 00:40:46,778 --> 00:40:48,647 would be representative of the fish, 991 00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:50,816 the path of the fish as it's going in the water 992 00:40:50,849 --> 00:40:53,151 and we're pinging out on either side. 993 00:40:53,184 --> 00:40:55,487 This bright return is our wall. 994 00:40:55,521 --> 00:40:56,988 - Oh! - Wow! 995 00:40:57,022 --> 00:40:59,758 - You can see it's nice and bright because it's steel, 996 00:40:59,791 --> 00:41:00,959 and basically what it is, 997 00:41:00,992 --> 00:41:03,128 it's picture you're shining a flashlight 998 00:41:03,161 --> 00:41:04,496 over the bottom here. 999 00:41:04,530 --> 00:41:05,964 Where we're seeing real bright spots, 1000 00:41:05,997 --> 00:41:08,133 it's hitting a nice solid object, 1001 00:41:08,166 --> 00:41:10,502 bouncing back, and then there's a shadow behind it 1002 00:41:10,536 --> 00:41:11,870 where your light wouldn't shine 1003 00:41:11,903 --> 00:41:13,539 and that's how we can kind of see 1004 00:41:13,572 --> 00:41:15,774 that an object is sticking up above the bottom 1005 00:41:15,807 --> 00:41:18,143 just because it's the lack of data. 1006 00:41:18,176 --> 00:41:19,611 - And that would let us know if there's something 1007 00:41:19,645 --> 00:41:21,613 that we could actually pull up and crack open 1008 00:41:21,647 --> 00:41:24,215 and take a look at. - Yes. 1009 00:41:24,249 --> 00:41:25,617 - So, as soon as we get over there, 1010 00:41:25,651 --> 00:41:27,185 we'll be able to start taking a look 1011 00:41:27,218 --> 00:41:29,955 and seeing what the fish finds. 1012 00:41:29,988 --> 00:41:31,189 - Without any physical proof 1013 00:41:31,222 --> 00:41:32,758 connecting Holmes and the Ripper, 1014 00:41:32,791 --> 00:41:35,594 my theory will always be questioned. 1015 00:41:35,627 --> 00:41:39,497 I'm hoping we'll finally get some answers. 1016 00:41:42,133 --> 00:41:43,068 - We're approaching - I'll start my dance. 1017 00:41:43,101 --> 00:41:44,703 - Okay. - I'm really juiced. 1018 00:41:44,736 --> 00:41:46,504 - Let's see if we can't find some concrete. 1019 00:41:49,608 --> 00:41:50,876 (suspenseful music) 1020 00:41:50,909 --> 00:41:53,078 - [Narrator] Next time on American Ripper... 1021 00:41:53,111 --> 00:41:55,814 - We've got a crime scene full of evidence. 1022 00:41:55,847 --> 00:41:57,082 - He's got all these creditors 1023 00:41:57,115 --> 00:41:58,283 about to stage an intervention 1024 00:41:58,316 --> 00:42:00,151 and arrest him, essentially. 1025 00:42:00,185 --> 00:42:01,653 - Yeah, so he thought by getting out of town, 1026 00:42:01,687 --> 00:42:03,021 he could let a lot of the heat off. 1027 00:42:03,054 --> 00:42:05,924 - This is Holmes's escape plan from Chicago. 1028 00:42:05,957 --> 00:42:07,926 - Right, his second castle. 1029 00:42:07,959 --> 00:42:08,694 - [Amaryllis] Amazing. 1030 00:42:08,727 --> 00:42:10,261 - Strangely enough, 1031 00:42:10,295 --> 00:42:13,732 that's the actual beginning of the end for H. H. Holmes. 1032 00:42:13,765 --> 00:42:15,333 - Only safe thing for him to do 1033 00:42:15,366 --> 00:42:18,236 was to get rid of the whole family. 1034 00:42:18,269 --> 00:42:21,607 - These bones for Howard Pitezel have not yet been found. 1035 00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:24,676 - We're going to dig down, looking for human remains. 1036 00:42:24,710 --> 00:42:27,112 See if we can find what's left of him. 1037 00:42:27,145 --> 00:42:28,046 What's that? 1038 00:42:28,079 --> 00:42:30,749 Possibly something in this area. 1039 00:42:30,782 --> 00:42:32,684 - This is a crime scene. 80394

Can't find what you're looking for?
Get subtitles in any language from opensubtitles.com, and translate them here.