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NARRATOR: Ancient megalithic
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stones cut with astonishing
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precision.
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What some people suggest is
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is that they were using
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electricity and power tools.
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NARRATOR: Mysterious
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sculptures depicting beings from
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around the world and beyond.
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There are all the races here.
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Even the grey aliens.
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NARRATOR: And legends of
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otherworldly giants creating an
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entire civilization in a single
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night.
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If there's one place that
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shows evidence of ancient
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aliens, it's Puma Punku.
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NARRATOR: Are the ancient
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ruins of Puma Punku the result
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of primitive man's incredible
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ingenuity?
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Or are they they product of a
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much higher power?
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Puma Punku is the only site
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on planet Earth that, in my
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opinion, was built directly
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by extraterrestrials.
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NARRATOR: Millions of people
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around the world believe we have
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been visited in the past by
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extraterrestrial beings.
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What if it were true?
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Did ancient aliens really help
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to shape our history?
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And if so, might there be
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evidence here on Earth of a lost
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alien city?
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NARRATOR: Bolivia. South
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America.
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Here, 45 miles west of
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La Pal, isolated high in the
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Andes mountains, he the
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mysterious ancient ruins of Puma
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Punku.
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Spread across a desert plateau,
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plateau, at an altitude over
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12,000 feet, the megalithic
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stones found here are among the
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largest on the planet, measuring
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up to 26 feet long and weighing
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more than 100 tons each.
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DAVID CHILDRESS: These are
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the mysterious ruins of Puma
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Punku, nearly 13,000 feet in the
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altiplano of Bolivia.
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What you have here are massive
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blocks of granite scattered like
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some kid's toy blocks around the
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site.
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It's like some giant cataclysm
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just wiped out this entire area.
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Archeologists are baffled by
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what Puma Punku was, how n
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baked, and what the purpose of
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this enormous structure would
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have been.
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NARRATOR: Mainstream
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scientists believe the site was
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originally constructed about
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2,000 years ago.
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But in 1945, archeologist
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Arthur Posnansky proposed that
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Puma Punku was much, much older.
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By examining the structures and
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what he believed were their
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original alignment with the
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stars, he dated the rums to
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15,000 BC.
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HUGH NEWMAN: Arthur Posnansky
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was a researcher who was part
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Bolivian, and he worked at the
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site for many decades, and he
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concluded that the site must
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have been built about 17,000
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Years ago by studying the
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archeoastronomy of that
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particular site.
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PHILIP COPPENS: We don't know
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how old Puma Punku is.
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We have had some circumstantial
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dating, but we have been unable
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to date the stones of Puma Punku
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themselves.
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They could be thousands, if not
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hundreds of thousands of years
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old, we don't know.
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GEORGE NOORY: I think the
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fascinating thing about Puma
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Punku is how did these
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structures get built?
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We're taking about stone that
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is 25 feet high.
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Stone that is hundreds of tons.
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BRIEN FOERSTER: Puma Punku is
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so unique in the way that it was
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constructed and shaped and
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positioned, that it is the most
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intriguing ancient site on the
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planet.
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Of all the places I've ever
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visited, Puma Punku is the one
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that I go back to lime and again
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because no one can solve the
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mystery.
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NARRATOR: Mainstream scholars
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believe the andesite blocks
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found at Puma Punku were formed
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by hand with primitive stone
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tools.
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But some researchers point to
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the intricate stonework as
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evidence of the use of advanced
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precision technology.
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CHILDRESS: One of the amazing
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things here at Puma Punku is the
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precision of the blocks.
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You can see with this block of
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granite, that it's really been
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cut at very accurate right
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angles.
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Not only do these granite mocks
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have precision corners, but they
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also have these difficult drill
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holes that are going right
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through the rock.
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NARRATOR: But how could such
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primitive people, living perhaps
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tens of thousands of years ago,
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have produced such flawless
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stonework?
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Might the ancient builders of
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Puma Punku have fabricated the
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megalithic stones with advanced
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technology?
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Technology of an otherworldly
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origin, as ancient astronaut
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theorists believe?
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NEWMAN: If you look at the
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stones carefully, and you get a
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magnifying glass on some of
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them, you can see some intricate
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stonework, as though they used
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machine tools or even lasers.
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It's absolutely incredible.
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I've seen nothing like it
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anywhere on the planet.
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GIORGIO TSOUKALOS: When an
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architect or an engineer looks
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at Puma Punku, one thing jumps
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out immediately, that whoever
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built this place had knowledge
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of planning, of logistics and
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had access to advanced
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technology.
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CHILDRESS: You know, Brien.
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This is one of the most
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interesting and unusual stones
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here at Puma Punku.
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It's got these perfect right
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angles, and each of these small
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drill holes are basically evenly
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spaced along this routered
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groove.
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To me it's clear that power
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tools have been used on this
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unusual block of stone here.
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FOERSTER: Well, exactly, and
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this surface is as smooth as a
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table top, like in your kitchen.
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There's no wave to it or
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anything.
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This was machined.
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But who machined it?
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It's an astonishing piece of
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work, and how anyone could Mink
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that primitive human beings
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could have done this...
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You know, it's just crazy.
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If anything looks like ancient
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aliens, it's this stone.
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NARRATOR: But if
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otherworldly technology was
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used at Puma Punku, where is the
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proof?
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In Danville, Illinois, machinist
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and toolmaker Chris Dunn has
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put the Puma Punku stone to the
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ultimate cutting test, using
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both laser technology and a
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modern diamond saw.
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DUNN: We've got a
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sample of the laser cut.
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This is the diamond wheel cut.
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And the top surface is the
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original cut surface from Puma
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Punku.
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Se, now we can compare the
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difference between all three
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cuts.
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NARRATOR: Looking at the
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stone under a microscope, Dunn
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compares the two modern culling
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techniques with the part of the
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stone cut thousands of years
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ago.
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Though age has worn the surface
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of the ancient example, the
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comparison reveals distinct
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differences.
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DUNN: You've got
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vitrification on the laser-cut
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side, and then. of course.
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You've got circular tool marks
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on the side cut with the diamond
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saw.
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And then, whatever tool they
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used to cut the ancient surface
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must have been a different
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method.
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TSOUKALOS: Now, do you think
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it's possible that some type of
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a diamond precision tool was
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used on the old surface, but
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because it was such a long time
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ago, that over time, the surface
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became a bit more rough, and
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we're talking ten or even 15,000
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years ago?
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DUNN: That is a reasonable
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speculation.
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I think we have to start
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examining, um, a little more
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sophisticated tools that no
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Manger exist.
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NARRATOR: What did the
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ancients use to cut the andesite
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stone so precisely?
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Might evidence of advanced
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technology be found by further
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study of the construction of the
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Puma Punku stones?
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Ancient astronaut theorists say
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yes, and point to what they call
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H blocks.
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FOERSTER: It seems like
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every one of these H blocks is
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exactly the same, so it's like a
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prefabrication process where
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they needed X-hundred of these,
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and whatever machinery it is
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that they had was able, with
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amazing accuracy, to replicate
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one after another after another.
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That's very sophisticated.
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CHILDRESS: Yeah. it's
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an ingenious way of building a
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huge granite wall.
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And again, the whole thing is
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just so incredibly precise.
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Doing these kind of inside
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corners like this-this just
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can't be done, really, with
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copper chisels and stone
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hammers.
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The whole thing is-is just
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so incredibly high-tech,
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even beyond what we would
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do today.
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NARRATOR: But how could
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the ancients have managed
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to move the incredibly heavy
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andesite stones to the site?
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After years of research,
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mainstream archaeologists have
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said the massive stones were
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hewn at quarries over 60 miles
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away and then rolled lo Puma
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Punku on logs.
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TSOUKALOS: What nobody talks
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about is the irrefutable fact
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that we are at an altitude of
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12,800 feet, which means we are
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above the natural tree line.
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No trees ever grew m that area,
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meaning, no trees were cut down
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in order to use wooden rollers.
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The wooden roller theory falls
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by the wayside.
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NARRATOR: Could there have
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been another more profound
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method of moving these
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megalithic stones into place?
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And if so, how would such an
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advanced engineering feat have
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been accomplished without the
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hem of modem machinery?
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CHILDRESS: How these massive
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blocks of granite were moved
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from their quarries and brought
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here to Puma Punku would have
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required some kind of super
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technology, levitation and
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anti-gravity, huge lifting
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vehicles, something that ancient
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aliens would have had.
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NARRATOR: Might the ancient
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city of Puma Punku really have
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been built by alien beings, as
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ancient astronaut theorists
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contend?
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Some researchers believe the
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ultimate proof can be found
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nearby, and also, carved in
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stone.
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NARRATOR: Southern Peru.
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1549.
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While searching for the capital
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of the Inca Empire, Spanish
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conquistadors, led by Pedro
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Cieza de León, cross into
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Bolivia and discover the ruins
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of Tiahuanaco.
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Less than a quarter mile
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northeast of Puma Punku.
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Mainstream scientists believe
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Tiahuanaco was once the center
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of a civilization with more than
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40,000 inhabitants.
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PAUL GOLDSTEIN, Ph.D:
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Tiahuanaco is probably the
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greatest Native American
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civilization that many people
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haven't heard of.
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It was one of the most important
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antecedents of the Inca.
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It was long gone by the time the
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Spaniards came on the scene.
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Yet, its level of achievement in
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architecture, in political
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development, in agriculture, in
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many craft industries are on a
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very high level.
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NARRATOR: Most scholars agree
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that Tiahuanaco was mysteriously
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abandoned around 1100 AD.
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But why?
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Local legends suggest that
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Tiahuanaco was built as a site
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of religious pilgrimage to
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celebrate the arrival of sky
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gods at nearby Puma Punku.
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According to ancient astronaut
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theorists, the two sites were
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not only built at different
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times, but also by beings from
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different worlds.
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COPPENS: Puma Punku, I
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Think, is very of-the-gods.
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And I think mankind did very
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little with that site.
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And then, nearby, our ancestors
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built Tiahuanaco as a place
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where people could come to
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explore these places, but also,
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I think, as a tribute sue
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where a god had once been
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physically present on planet
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Earth.
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ERICH VON DANIKEN: You have
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to differentiate two different
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styles of construction: the old
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style, which I call the
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extraterrestrial style, and
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then, the later style, which was
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made by the humans.
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TSOUKALOS: Tiahuanaco is
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nothing else but a mace of
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pilgrimage for people to
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congregate and remember the
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time when something significant
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happened at Puma Punku.
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And the thing that was
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significant about it was an
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extraterrestrial visit by
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ancient aliens m the remote
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past.
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NARRATOR: But if Tiahuanaco
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was built to honor
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extraterrestrial contact, as
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ancient astronaut theorists
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contend, might there be tangible
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evidence?
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In the 1960s, the Bolivian
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government excavated and
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unearthed the Subterranean
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Temple at Tiahuanaco.
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Within the walls of the square
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sunken courtyard are hundreds of
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stone heads with a diverse range
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of features.
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CHILDRESS: Here at the famous
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Sunken Temple at Tiahuanaco, we
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have all of the different heads
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that have been inserted into the
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walls.
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It's sometimes said that there
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are all the races of mankind
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represented here, even elongated
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skulls, people wearing turbans,
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people with broad noses, people
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with thin noses, people with
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thick lips, people with thin
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lips, and some of the statues
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are particularly unusual.
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FOERSTER: They don't seem to
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represent the local people.
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They seem to represent every
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type and shape of human head
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existing on the planet.
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Two of them, which are very
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intriguing, are white in color,
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and they look very much like
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grey alien heads.
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COPPENS: When we're looking
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at the carved heads of the
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Tiahuanaco complex, you really
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see that it's almost as if this
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is a UN headquarters, whereby
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everybody was able to come there
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because all cultures on planet
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Earth accepted that Tiahuanaco
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was so special because this was
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a place where contact with the
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divine had been made.
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NARRATOR: Some researchers
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behave a large statue at the
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center of the sunken temple
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depicts the creator god, known
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As Viracocha.
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Bu! why would the inhabitants of
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Tiahuanaco have depicted their
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most prominent god with features
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unlike their own?
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CHILDRESS: He has got a beard
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and a moustache.
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And that is an unusual thing,
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because American Indians do not
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have beards and moustaches.
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FOERSTER: Exactly.
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The fact, also, that the beard
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and the moustache are so
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pronounced.
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They're not little wispy ones.
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They're major, so, that
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indicates that this person was
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not a South American native, but
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dearly came from another land.
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CHILDRESS: And an important
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person, too, who's somehow one
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of the founders, here, of
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Tiahuanaco.
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Maybe even somebody who's come
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from Sumeria to South America.
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NARRATOR: Is it possible that
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the Sumerians-a civilization
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established in 4,000 BC and
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located nearly 8,000 miles
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away-could be connected to the
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early inhabitants of Tiahuanaco?
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If so, how?
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Ancient astronaut theorists
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believe the answer can be found
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at the Precious Metals Museum in
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La Paz, Bolivia.
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CHILDRESS: This is perhaps
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one of the most important
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archaeological artifacts ever
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discovered in Tiahuanaco or
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Puma Punku.
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This is the famous Fuente Magma
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Bowl discovered near Tiahuanaco.
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It's a ceramic bowl, and it has
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written on it Sumerian
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cuneiform, plus Prom-Sumerian
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hieroglyphic script.
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This script is coming from circa
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3,000 BC.
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It draws a direct connection
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between the ancient Sumerians
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and Tiahuanaco and Puma Punku.
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NARRATOR: Discovered near
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Lake Titicaca by a local farmer
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in the 1950s, researchers
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behave the vessel provides
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proof of extraterrestrial
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Intervention at Puma Punku.
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CHILDRESS: The idea of
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Sumerian writing being here
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at Puma Punku and Tiahuanaco
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would seem to relate to the
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late Zecharia Sitchin, and his
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ideas that the Sumerians were
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also interacting with these
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space beings called the
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Annunaki.
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So, in that case, the Annunaki
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were there in Sumeria, but also
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here at Puma Punku and
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Tiahuanaco in South America.
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NARRATOR: Could the stone
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sculptures found at Tiahuanaco
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really be evidence of
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interaction with
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extraterrestrial beings, as
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ancient astronaut theorists
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00:21:05,765 --> 00:21:07,176
believe?
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Perhaps the answer can be found
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by examining the legends of the
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creator god, Viracocha, and his
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mysterious origins.
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NARRATOR: The Andes
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Mountains, Peru.
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Here, 12 miles north of Puma
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Punku, he the murky waters
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of Lake Titicaca, the largest
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lake in South America.
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According to local legends, the
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god Viracocha rose up from the
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depths of this lake to create
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the sun, the stars and mankind.
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NEWMAN: Legend stales that
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Viracocha, the great creator god
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of the Inca and the prehistoric
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civilization of the area,
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emerged from Lake Titicaca, and
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he went to Tiahuanaco and
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brought civilization to that
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part of the world.
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He then went to Puma Punku, and
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this is where he said he made
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men and women from stone and
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took them to the four comers of
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the Earth to spread their seed.
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VON DANIKEN: The Spanish
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conqueror asked the Inca, the
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people living there, including
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the king of the Inca, "What is
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this Puma Punku?“
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And they all said, "It's not us.
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It's not our forefather who make
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this.
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"These were made by the gods in
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one single night"
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Usually, a king is proud about
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what his people did, about the
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precision, and so on.
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In that case, the chief and the
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people said, "No, it was not us.
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00:22:53,005 --> 00:22:55,281
It was the gods who made it."
571
00:22:58,677 --> 00:23:00,020
NEWMAN: One of the legends of
572
00:23:00,179 --> 00:23:01,556
Puma Punku slates that it was
573
00:23:01,714 --> 00:23:04,194
built by a race of giants in one
574
00:23:04,350 --> 00:23:05,510
night after a great cataclysm
575
00:23:05,584 --> 00:23:06,858
and flood had destroyed the
576
00:23:07,019 --> 00:23:08,089
whole area.
577
00:23:08,254 --> 00:23:09,733
But what's really interesting is
578
00:23:09,889 --> 00:23:11,095
that, who were these giants?
579
00:23:11,257 --> 00:23:12,634
Where did they come from?
580
00:23:12,791 --> 00:23:14,099
Was it Viracocha and his band of
581
00:23:14,260 --> 00:23:15,102
followers?
582
00:23:15,261 --> 00:23:16,569
Was it some other beings from
583
00:23:16,729 --> 00:23:18,640
some other place?
584
00:23:20,699 --> 00:23:21,769
TSOUKALOS: One of the
585
00:23:21,934 --> 00:23:24,073
earliest chronicles that we have
586
00:23:24,236 --> 00:23:26,113
in regards to Puma Punku talks
587
00:23:26,272 --> 00:23:28,775
about that these giant platforms
588
00:23:28,941 --> 00:23:32,150
were moved through the aw by
589
00:23:32,311 --> 00:23:35,155
the sound of a trumpet.
590
00:23:35,314 --> 00:23:37,123
They basically floated into
591
00:23:37,283 --> 00:23:38,785
place.
592
00:23:38,951 --> 00:23:40,794
So, do we have some type of
593
00:23:40,953 --> 00:23:43,160
sound technology here?
594
00:23:43,322 --> 00:23:45,131
And the answer is a potential
595
00:23:45,291 --> 00:23:47,237
yes.
596
00:23:49,995 --> 00:23:51,195
NARRATOR: Might the legends
597
00:23:51,330 --> 00:23:54,607
of giants-and stones floating
598
00:23:54,767 --> 00:23:56,075
through the air-have been
599
00:23:56,235 --> 00:23:57,236
inspired by some son of
600
00:23:57,403 --> 00:23:59,781
mysterious events in the distant
601
00:23:59,939 --> 00:24:01,475
past?
602
00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:04,519
Or were they the result of alien
603
00:24:04,677 --> 00:24:06,987
beings visiting Earth in
604
00:24:07,146 --> 00:24:09,148
prehistoric times, as ancient
605
00:24:09,315 --> 00:24:13,422
astronaut theorists believe?
606
00:24:13,585 --> 00:24:14,996
VON DANIKEN: Now, I come with
607
00:24:15,154 --> 00:24:16,258
the speculation.
608
00:24:16,422 --> 00:24:19,198
Extraterrestrials arrive.
609
00:24:19,358 --> 00:24:21,304
The spaceship stands in orbit.
610
00:24:21,460 --> 00:24:23,030
Only a smaller space vehicle
611
00:24:23,195 --> 00:24:24,173
comes down, like a space
612
00:24:24,330 --> 00:24:25,638
shuttle.
613
00:24:25,798 --> 00:24:28,039
So, just to protect their
614
00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:29,702
instruments, they make,
615
00:24:29,868 --> 00:24:31,176
overnight, with their
616
00:24:31,337 --> 00:24:33,544
technology, what we call a base
617
00:24:33,706 --> 00:24:37,347
camp... of course, made out of
618
00:24:37,509 --> 00:24:38,783
stones found on Earth, because
619
00:24:38,944 --> 00:24:40,218
you don't transport granite or
620
00:24:40,379 --> 00:24:41,983
diorite from another solar
621
00:24:42,147 --> 00:24:43,319
system.
622
00:24:43,482 --> 00:24:46,053
And then, they disappear.
623
00:24:46,218 --> 00:24:48,824
But the wall of their base camp
624
00:24:48,988 --> 00:24:51,332
is still there.
625
00:24:51,490 --> 00:24:52,330
Now the natives come.
626
00:24:52,458 --> 00:24:54,233
They see these ruins.
627
00:24:54,393 --> 00:24:55,353
They touch it with their
628
00:24:55,461 --> 00:24:56,735
fingers.
629
00:24:56,895 --> 00:24:58,033
They say, "Look at this.
630
00:24:58,197 --> 00:24:59,505
It's so smooth, it's so sharp.
631
00:24:59,665 --> 00:25:01,667
The gods did it."
632
00:25:01,834 --> 00:25:05,247
The place becomes a holy place.
633
00:25:05,404 --> 00:25:07,475
And now, the natives start to
634
00:25:07,639 --> 00:25:10,415
construct temples, altars in
635
00:25:10,576 --> 00:25:12,852
honor of the gods.
636
00:25:13,012 --> 00:25:14,992
So you have two technologies.
637
00:25:15,147 --> 00:25:16,228
One was an extraterrestrial
638
00:25:16,382 --> 00:25:18,020
technology, and the other was
639
00:25:18,183 --> 00:25:20,060
the humans with their altars and
640
00:25:20,219 --> 00:25:26,659
their temples.
641
00:25:26,825 --> 00:25:27,985
NARRATOR: In the center of
642
00:25:28,027 --> 00:25:31,031
the temples at Tiahuanaco lie
643
00:25:31,196 --> 00:25:33,073
the ruins of a stone arch called
644
00:25:33,232 --> 00:25:35,439
the Gateway of the Sun.
645
00:25:35,601 --> 00:25:37,842
Cut and shaped from a single
646
00:25:38,003 --> 00:25:40,074
andesite stone weighing more
647
00:25:40,239 --> 00:25:42,583
than lemons, archaeologists
648
00:25:42,741 --> 00:25:44,448
believe the ten-foot tall.
649
00:25:44,610 --> 00:25:46,590
13-foot wide megalith was once
650
00:25:46,745 --> 00:25:48,281
the gateway leading to Puma
651
00:25:48,447 --> 00:25:51,792
Punku.
652
00:25:51,950 --> 00:25:53,230
GOLDSTEIN: The Gateway of the
653
00:25:53,285 --> 00:25:56,459
Sun is probably the entrance, or
654
00:25:56,622 --> 00:25:58,363
one of the entrances, to the
655
00:25:58,524 --> 00:25:59,935
Puma Punku temple.
656
00:26:00,092 --> 00:26:01,196
And as such' it's very
657
00:26:01,360 --> 00:26:03,271
important, because this is how
658
00:26:03,429 --> 00:26:05,238
the people of Tiahuanaco
659
00:26:05,397 --> 00:26:06,603
conducted Meir ritual, by
660
00:26:06,765 --> 00:26:08,267
funneling people through
661
00:26:08,434 --> 00:26:11,278
increasingly smaller gateways
662
00:26:11,437 --> 00:26:12,939
and Stairways to more and more
663
00:26:13,105 --> 00:26:15,415
sacred precincts.
664
00:26:16,875 --> 00:26:18,320
NARRATOR: On the upper
665
00:26:18,477 --> 00:26:19,319
portion of the arch, intricate
666
00:26:19,478 --> 00:26:21,719
carvings can be found of nearly
667
00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:23,757
50 winged beings on either side
668
00:26:23,916 --> 00:26:25,896
of what is believed to be the
669
00:26:26,051 --> 00:26:29,828
great creator god, Viracocha.
670
00:26:29,988 --> 00:26:31,399
Interpretations of the
671
00:26:31,557 --> 00:26:33,434
engravings suggest they refer to
672
00:26:33,592 --> 00:26:36,334
a calendar describing a time as
673
00:26:36,495 --> 00:26:41,569
far back as 27,000 BC.
674
00:26:41,733 --> 00:26:43,013
CHILDRESS: So. here we are at
675
00:26:43,068 --> 00:26:44,348
the famous Gate of the Sun, with
676
00:26:44,470 --> 00:26:47,349
Viracocha right in the middle,
677
00:26:47,506 --> 00:26:48,576
homing two scepters, surrounded
678
00:26:48,740 --> 00:26:50,344
by bird men.
679
00:26:50,509 --> 00:26:51,920
FOERSTER: That's a summon
680
00:26:52,077 --> 00:26:53,317
depiction in ancient societies,
681
00:26:53,412 --> 00:26:55,255
is a man who's able to fly.
682
00:26:55,414 --> 00:26:57,360
That would have probably been an
683
00:26:57,516 --> 00:26:58,460
interpretation by the native
684
00:26:58,617 --> 00:27:00,028
people of someone coming from
685
00:27:00,185 --> 00:27:02,495
the sky or from the heavens.
686
00:27:05,524 --> 00:27:06,867
CHILDRESS: It's pan of our
687
00:27:07,025 --> 00:27:09,198
idea, too, that some giant
688
00:27:09,361 --> 00:27:12,205
airship that was a factory with
689
00:27:12,364 --> 00:27:15,675
power tools and power saws and
690
00:27:15,834 --> 00:27:18,337
routers and drills just landed
691
00:27:18,504 --> 00:27:20,541
here and began processing these
692
00:27:20,706 --> 00:27:24,176
giant blocks of stone, and then
693
00:27:24,343 --> 00:27:31,192
ultimately, created Puma Punku.
694
00:27:31,350 --> 00:27:33,125
NEWMAN: It seems like the
695
00:27:33,285 --> 00:27:34,696
whole complex was some kind of
696
00:27:34,853 --> 00:27:37,129
technological kind of factory.
697
00:27:37,289 --> 00:27:40,702
And if my research is correct,
698
00:27:40,859 --> 00:27:42,338
it looks like they were using it
699
00:27:42,494 --> 00:27:44,804
to create energy of some sort.
700
00:27:44,963 --> 00:27:46,499
So, what some people suggest is
701
00:27:46,665 --> 00:27:47,700
is that they were using
702
00:27:47,866 --> 00:27:48,987
electricity and power tools,
703
00:27:49,134 --> 00:27:50,977
which sounds incredible when we
704
00:27:51,136 --> 00:27:52,416
think about it because they were
705
00:27:52,504 --> 00:27:54,347
modern inventions.
706
00:27:54,506 --> 00:27:55,849
Bu! actually, if you look at the
707
00:27:56,008 --> 00:27:57,208
quality of the stone work, you
708
00:27:57,242 --> 00:27:58,482
have to admit something like
709
00:27:58,644 --> 00:28:00,885
that was going on there.
710
00:28:01,046 --> 00:28:02,127
CHILDRESS: When you m at
711
00:28:02,214 --> 00:28:03,386
the complexity of Puma Punku,
712
00:28:03,549 --> 00:28:04,857
the huge platforms, the
713
00:28:05,017 --> 00:28:07,019
interlocking blocks that was
714
00:28:07,186 --> 00:28:09,063
made into what they thought were
715
00:28:09,221 --> 00:28:12,065
indestructible walls,
716
00:28:12,224 --> 00:28:14,397
what you could have is the kind
717
00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:17,404
of perfectly made granite space
718
00:28:17,563 --> 00:28:21,409
port that extraterrestrials
719
00:28:21,567 --> 00:28:26,209
would want.
720
00:28:26,371 --> 00:28:27,941
NARRATOR: Might Puma Punku be
721
00:28:28,106 --> 00:28:29,949
the remains of an intergalactic
722
00:28:30,108 --> 00:28:32,611
outpost built by otherworldly
723
00:28:32,778 --> 00:28:35,588
beings tens of thousands of
724
00:28:35,747 --> 00:28:37,784
years ago, as ancient astronaut
725
00:28:37,950 --> 00:28:38,894
theorists contend?
726
00:28:39,051 --> 00:28:41,554
Perhaps the answer can be found
727
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:43,597
using modern technology to
728
00:28:43,755 --> 00:28:46,065
examine the purpose for which
729
00:28:46,225 --> 00:28:47,465
the site was built in the first
730
00:28:47,626 --> 00:28:48,126
place.
731
00:28:59,571 --> 00:29:02,051
NARRATOR: January, 2011.
732
00:29:02,207 --> 00:29:03,914
Researchers survey and measure
733
00:29:04,076 --> 00:29:05,453
the monolithic stones and
734
00:29:05,611 --> 00:29:07,750
H-blocks scattered around the
735
00:29:07,913 --> 00:29:09,483
archeological site of Puma
736
00:29:09,648 --> 00:29:12,151
Punku, hoping lo solve the
737
00:29:12,317 --> 00:29:13,625
mystery of what these structures
738
00:29:13,785 --> 00:29:17,130
were used for and why.
739
00:29:17,289 --> 00:29:18,529
TSOUKALOS: The evidence that
740
00:29:18,557 --> 00:29:20,400
something extraordinary happened
741
00:29:20,559 --> 00:29:22,129
at Puma Punku is in front of our
742
00:29:22,294 --> 00:29:23,932
very eyes.
743
00:29:24,096 --> 00:29:26,633
Because at Puma Punku, we find
744
00:29:26,798 --> 00:29:30,507
evidence of stone cuts that we
745
00:29:30,669 --> 00:29:33,513
today could only replicate if we
746
00:29:33,672 --> 00:29:35,948
used the most sophisticated of
747
00:29:36,108 --> 00:29:38,019
technologies.
748
00:29:40,345 --> 00:29:41,505
FOERSTER: That is part of the
749
00:29:41,580 --> 00:29:43,423
great mystery of Puma Punku.
750
00:29:43,582 --> 00:29:45,960
It seems as though some kind of
751
00:29:46,118 --> 00:29:47,995
factory was set up there to make
752
00:29:48,153 --> 00:29:50,326
these almost exactly the same.
753
00:29:50,489 --> 00:29:51,763
It's almost like a Lego system
754
00:29:51,923 --> 00:29:54,028
of interconnecting blocks, and
755
00:29:54,192 --> 00:29:57,298
that is unique on this Earth.
756
00:29:57,462 --> 00:29:58,543
VON DANIKEN: Many of the
757
00:29:58,597 --> 00:30:00,599
blocks were prefabricated
758
00:30:00,766 --> 00:30:01,437
blocks.
759
00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:02,806
Prefabricated blocks means
760
00:30:02,968 --> 00:30:03,810
planning.
761
00:30:03,969 --> 00:30:05,380
You have to make a design.
762
00:30:05,537 --> 00:30:07,642
Planning means writing.
763
00:30:07,806 --> 00:30:09,479
Now the archaeologists say that
764
00:30:09,641 --> 00:30:11,518
Puma Punku are the ruins of
765
00:30:11,677 --> 00:30:13,623
temples made by the Aymara.
766
00:30:13,779 --> 00:30:15,656
Aymara are the highland Indians
767
00:30:15,814 --> 00:30:16,554
up there.
768
00:30:16,715 --> 00:30:18,490
But the Aymara were Stone Age
769
00:30:18,650 --> 00:30:19,321
people.
770
00:30:19,484 --> 00:30:21,464
They had not even writing.
771
00:30:21,620 --> 00:30:23,657
So not planning, it's absolutely
772
00:30:23,822 --> 00:30:24,493
impossible.
773
00:30:24,656 --> 00:30:26,897
Prefabricated blocks in Stone
774
00:30:27,059 --> 00:30:29,699
Age doesn't fit with Stone Age.
775
00:30:29,861 --> 00:30:31,670
And the precision of the blocks
776
00:30:31,830 --> 00:30:34,174
is absolutely baffling.
777
00:30:39,871 --> 00:30:40,576
NARRATOR: In Danville,
778
00:30:40,739 --> 00:30:42,878
Illinois, toolmaker Chris Dunn
779
00:30:43,041 --> 00:30:44,884
uses measurements taken at Puma
780
00:30:45,043 --> 00:30:46,488
Punku to create a
781
00:30:46,645 --> 00:30:48,090
one-eighth-scale model of an
782
00:30:48,246 --> 00:30:50,487
H-block to better understand
783
00:30:50,649 --> 00:30:52,094
how they may have originally fit
784
00:30:52,250 --> 00:30:54,594
together.
785
00:30:54,753 --> 00:30:55,527
TSOUKALOS: So you actually
786
00:30:55,687 --> 00:30:57,598
went to Puma Punku to measure
787
00:30:57,756 --> 00:30:59,360
the H-blocks.
788
00:30:59,524 --> 00:31:00,559
What was your conclusion?
789
00:31:00,726 --> 00:31:01,500
What did you find?
790
00:31:01,660 --> 00:31:02,581
DUNN: For me, it was
791
00:31:02,694 --> 00:31:03,894
important to find out what the
792
00:31:03,895 --> 00:31:05,772
measurements were.
793
00:31:05,931 --> 00:31:07,239
What I found was that the
794
00:31:07,399 --> 00:31:09,106
internal cavities were not
795
00:31:09,267 --> 00:31:10,678
parallel to each other.
796
00:31:10,836 --> 00:31:11,712
TSOUKALOS: And by internal
797
00:31:11,870 --> 00:31:13,110
cavities, you're referring to
798
00:31:13,271 --> 00:31:14,352
these two parts right here,
799
00:31:14,406 --> 00:31:15,248
right?
800
00:31:15,407 --> 00:31:16,249
DUNN: Exactly.
801
00:31:16,408 --> 00:31:16,909
TSOUKALOS: Mm-hmm.
802
00:31:17,075 --> 00:31:17,712
DUNN: These two surfaces
803
00:31:17,876 --> 00:31:19,947
right here, both lop and bottom,
804
00:31:20,112 --> 00:31:21,682
uh, they are smaller at the
805
00:31:21,847 --> 00:31:23,554
front than they are at the back.
806
00:31:23,715 --> 00:31:24,715
TSOUKALOS: Essentially
807
00:31:24,716 --> 00:31:25,717
suggesting a dovetail.
808
00:31:25,884 --> 00:31:26,692
DUNN: Creating a dovetail.
809
00:31:26,852 --> 00:31:27,728
TSOUKALOS: Mm-hmm.
810
00:31:27,886 --> 00:31:30,560
Why do you think a dovetail
811
00:31:30,722 --> 00:31:32,599
shape was carved or used?
812
00:31:32,758 --> 00:31:33,839
DUNN: Really, if we look at
813
00:31:33,859 --> 00:31:35,736
the way we have used dovetails,
814
00:31:35,894 --> 00:31:37,771
we use them for mechanism
815
00:31:37,929 --> 00:31:39,306
purposes-to hold things
816
00:31:39,464 --> 00:31:40,374
together.
817
00:31:40,532 --> 00:31:41,977
So, essentially, what I'm saying
818
00:31:42,134 --> 00:31:43,704
is that they were using these
819
00:31:43,869 --> 00:31:45,405
H-blocks for a mechanical
820
00:31:45,570 --> 00:31:46,412
Purpose.
821
00:31:46,571 --> 00:31:48,642
Probably to hold, uh, hinges for
822
00:31:48,807 --> 00:31:50,718
a door.
823
00:31:50,876 --> 00:31:52,036
NARRATOR: To test his theory,
824
00:31:52,110 --> 00:31:54,647
Dunn created a door hinge that
825
00:31:54,813 --> 00:31:56,258
would conned to a small-scab
826
00:31:56,415 --> 00:31:57,894
model H-block.
827
00:31:58,049 --> 00:31:59,089
DUNN: So if we put this
828
00:31:59,117 --> 00:32:00,391
together, we put the one in
829
00:32:00,552 --> 00:32:01,394
the bottom.
830
00:32:01,553 --> 00:32:03,157
Like so.
831
00:32:03,321 --> 00:32:06,791
One in the top part.
832
00:32:06,958 --> 00:32:07,993
Like so.
833
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:10,902
And then this piece fits in
834
00:32:11,062 --> 00:32:11,904
there.
835
00:32:12,063 --> 00:32:14,771
Put a hinge pin in it.
836
00:32:14,933 --> 00:32:16,674
And now you have your hinge.
837
00:32:16,835 --> 00:32:17,795
TSOUKALOS: Yeah, it's
838
00:32:17,936 --> 00:32:19,176
absolutely spectacular.
839
00:32:19,337 --> 00:32:20,941
And of course, the most
840
00:32:21,106 --> 00:32:23,177
fascinating question is, what
841
00:32:23,341 --> 00:32:25,981
tools were used 5,000 years ago?
842
00:32:26,144 --> 00:32:27,748
Because something very
843
00:32:27,913 --> 00:32:29,824
sophisticated was used and not
844
00:32:29,981 --> 00:32:31,756
chicken bones.
845
00:32:31,917 --> 00:32:33,828
DUNN: Not chicken bones, not
846
00:32:33,985 --> 00:32:36,192
copper chisels, not stone
847
00:32:36,354 --> 00:32:37,025
chisels.
848
00:32:37,189 --> 00:32:38,691
The tools that were used to
849
00:32:38,857 --> 00:32:40,666
create these blocks at Puma
850
00:32:40,826 --> 00:32:42,772
Punku do not exist in the
851
00:32:42,928 --> 00:32:45,636
archaeological record.
852
00:32:45,797 --> 00:32:47,208
NARRATOR: According to Dunn,
853
00:32:47,365 --> 00:32:49,208
the H-blocks may have been used
854
00:32:49,367 --> 00:32:50,607
to mount hinges for a massive
855
00:32:50,769 --> 00:32:53,147
door, perhaps for one of the
856
00:32:53,305 --> 00:32:55,342
largest temple complexes in the
857
00:32:55,507 --> 00:32:57,680
ancient world.
858
00:32:57,843 --> 00:32:58,821
TSOUKALOS: It's a spectacular
859
00:32:58,977 --> 00:33:01,321
discovery that Chris Dunn made.
860
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:03,619
This lends a whole new meaning
861
00:33:03,782 --> 00:33:06,228
to the H-blocks at Puma Punku
862
00:33:06,384 --> 00:33:08,796
because, possibly, they held
863
00:33:08,954 --> 00:33:10,399
something in place.
864
00:33:10,555 --> 00:33:15,664
The question is: What?
865
00:33:15,827 --> 00:33:17,027
NARRATOR: But Dunn's theory
866
00:33:17,028 --> 00:33:18,735
on the purpose of the H-blocks
867
00:33:18,897 --> 00:33:20,808
is only one of several recent
868
00:33:20,966 --> 00:33:22,809
hypotheses concerning the
869
00:33:22,968 --> 00:33:24,811
complex engineering found at
870
00:33:24,970 --> 00:33:26,745
Puma Punku.
871
00:33:26,905 --> 00:33:27,645
PAUL FRANCIS: These had a
872
00:33:27,806 --> 00:33:28,682
purpose.
873
00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:29,682
NARRATOR: Model maker Paul
874
00:33:29,841 --> 00:33:31,013
Francis from Dandridge,
875
00:33:31,176 --> 00:33:32,678
Tennessee, offers another
876
00:33:32,844 --> 00:33:33,845
theory.
877
00:33:34,012 --> 00:33:34,813
TSOUKALOS: So you've
878
00:33:34,846 --> 00:33:36,826
recreated these H-blocks that we
879
00:33:36,982 --> 00:33:39,087
can find at Puma Punku, and you
880
00:33:39,251 --> 00:33:40,525
came up with a very interesting
881
00:33:40,685 --> 00:33:43,393
idea where you put these blocks
882
00:33:43,555 --> 00:33:46,399
together, creating what looks
883
00:33:46,558 --> 00:33:48,333
like to be some type of a track.
884
00:33:48,493 --> 00:33:50,063
So tell me more about what went
885
00:33:50,228 --> 00:33:51,730
on in your mind.
886
00:33:51,897 --> 00:33:52,602
FRANCIS: When I saw these
887
00:33:52,764 --> 00:33:54,368
laid out on the table, I thought
888
00:33:54,533 --> 00:33:56,945
it basically looks like some of
889
00:33:57,102 --> 00:33:59,378
the World War II launch ramps
890
00:33:59,538 --> 00:34:01,540
that the Germans used in testing
891
00:34:01,706 --> 00:34:07,281
rocket-propelled airplanes.
892
00:34:07,445 --> 00:34:09,083
When I saw this, the lightbulb
893
00:34:09,247 --> 00:34:10,692
went off in my head and I said,
894
00:34:10,849 --> 00:34:12,726
yeah, with some wooden skids,
895
00:34:12,884 --> 00:34:14,056
this would make a perfect
896
00:34:14,219 --> 00:34:16,631
launching platform for an
897
00:34:16,788 --> 00:34:18,062
ancient spacecraft.
898
00:34:18,223 --> 00:34:20,100
So the skid would travel down
899
00:34:20,258 --> 00:34:22,295
the H-blocks, and eventually at
900
00:34:22,460 --> 00:34:24,633
the end this would fall off, and
901
00:34:24,796 --> 00:34:25,917
of course the airplane would
902
00:34:26,064 --> 00:34:31,138
continue to go on.
903
00:34:31,303 --> 00:34:33,579
And this is what I envision an
904
00:34:33,738 --> 00:34:35,479
airplane looking like.
905
00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:38,086
And this plane... it has an
906
00:34:38,243 --> 00:34:38,744
intake.
907
00:34:38,910 --> 00:34:41,049
It has your control panels, your
908
00:34:41,212 --> 00:34:44,318
control surfaces, and basically,
909
00:34:44,482 --> 00:34:47,053
I mean, this thing is ready to
910
00:34:47,218 --> 00:34:48,019
go into outer space.
911
00:34:48,119 --> 00:34:49,359
TSOUKALOS: I mean, this just
912
00:34:49,487 --> 00:34:50,488
looks bad-ass.
913
00:34:50,655 --> 00:34:51,725
I mean, it looks really
914
00:34:51,890 --> 00:34:53,267
unbelievable 'cause you've
915
00:34:53,425 --> 00:34:55,132
basically taken an object that
916
00:34:55,293 --> 00:34:57,432
was created by an ancient
917
00:34:57,596 --> 00:34:59,906
artist and turned it into
918
00:35:00,065 --> 00:35:01,635
something from a modem-day
919
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:04,144
perspective as it relates to
920
00:35:04,302 --> 00:35:06,339
space travel, or at least
921
00:35:06,504 --> 00:35:08,984
aviation.
922
00:35:09,140 --> 00:35:11,347
NARRATOR: The concept for the
923
00:35:11,509 --> 00:35:13,750
ancient spacecraft is based on
924
00:35:13,912 --> 00:35:16,188
gold jewelry found in tombs near
925
00:35:16,348 --> 00:35:18,919
Bogotá, Colombia.
926
00:35:19,084 --> 00:35:20,791
After careful analysis and
927
00:35:20,952 --> 00:35:22,954
modern testing of
928
00:35:23,121 --> 00:35:25,431
reproductions of the gold
929
00:35:25,590 --> 00:35:27,126
object, ancient astronaut
930
00:35:27,292 --> 00:35:29,533
theorists suggest such
931
00:35:29,694 --> 00:35:32,971
artifacts... nearly 1,500 years
932
00:35:33,131 --> 00:35:35,441
old... are proof of modern
933
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:36,374
aerodynamic capabilities in the
934
00:35:36,534 --> 00:35:37,376
ancient past.
935
00:35:37,535 --> 00:35:38,456
FRANCIS: You know, when
936
00:35:38,536 --> 00:35:39,606
these original sculptures
937
00:35:39,771 --> 00:35:40,647
were produced, they're doing
938
00:35:40,805 --> 00:35:41,977
a literal interpretation
939
00:35:42,140 --> 00:35:42,982
of what they saw.
940
00:35:43,141 --> 00:35:43,983
I have to take that
941
00:35:44,142 --> 00:35:44,984
interpretation and I have to
942
00:35:45,143 --> 00:35:45,985
make it into something that
943
00:35:46,144 --> 00:35:47,714
would actually work as a
944
00:35:47,879 --> 00:35:50,985
machine, so, in doing so, we've
945
00:35:51,149 --> 00:35:53,652
added a cockpit, which the
946
00:35:53,818 --> 00:35:56,321
original model does not have.
947
00:35:56,488 --> 00:35:57,967
Also there are two small bumps
948
00:35:58,123 --> 00:35:59,033
on the back of the original
949
00:35:59,190 --> 00:36:02,069
sculpture, which to me indicate
950
00:36:02,227 --> 00:36:03,467
rocket thrusters.
951
00:36:03,628 --> 00:36:07,007
You have this cone-shaped piece,
952
00:36:07,165 --> 00:36:08,542
which could have been an intake
953
00:36:08,700 --> 00:36:09,872
that this person saw.
954
00:36:10,035 --> 00:36:11,810
TSOUKALOS: And we know that
955
00:36:11,970 --> 00:36:14,974
these objects truly fly.
956
00:36:15,140 --> 00:36:15,845
We know that 'cause these
957
00:36:16,007 --> 00:36:17,418
experiments have been done
958
00:36:17,575 --> 00:36:19,418
before, and they were
959
00:36:19,577 --> 00:36:20,578
experiments that were
960
00:36:20,745 --> 00:36:23,555
repeatable, meaning they satisfy
961
00:36:23,715 --> 00:36:25,991
the scientific method, and so
962
00:36:26,151 --> 00:36:30,190
your idea of using the H-blocks
963
00:36:30,355 --> 00:36:35,168
as a type of a launching ramp,
964
00:36:35,326 --> 00:36:36,930
to me, is ingenious.
965
00:36:37,095 --> 00:36:38,836
I've never heard it before, and
966
00:36:38,997 --> 00:36:42,706
it's always great to explore new
967
00:36:42,867 --> 00:36:46,440
ideas in this field.
968
00:36:46,604 --> 00:36:48,242
NARRATOR: Might the H-blocks
969
00:36:48,406 --> 00:36:50,511
at Puma Punku really have been
970
00:36:50,675 --> 00:36:52,848
used as launch ramps for alien
971
00:36:53,011 --> 00:36:55,184
spacecraft?
972
00:36:55,346 --> 00:36:57,553
If so, what happened to these
973
00:36:57,716 --> 00:36:59,286
massive, seemingly
974
00:36:59,451 --> 00:37:07,451
indestructible structures?
975
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:11,966
NARRATOR: Puma Punku.
976
00:37:12,130 --> 00:37:14,110
For centuries, researchers have
977
00:37:14,265 --> 00:37:16,802
been unable to explain what may
978
00:37:16,968 --> 00:37:17,969
have caused the total
979
00:37:18,136 --> 00:37:19,274
destruction of this ancient
980
00:37:19,437 --> 00:37:22,213
site.
981
00:37:22,373 --> 00:37:23,477
Some believe a massive
982
00:37:23,641 --> 00:37:25,985
earthquake in prehistoric times
983
00:37:26,144 --> 00:37:27,714
may have scattered its megaton
984
00:37:27,879 --> 00:37:31,793
stones like toy blocks.
985
00:37:31,950 --> 00:37:33,588
TSOUKALOS: Puma Punku looks
986
00:37:33,752 --> 00:37:35,993
like some type of a junkyard.
987
00:37:36,154 --> 00:37:38,327
It's as if the whole place, at
988
00:37:38,490 --> 00:37:40,993
some point, got destroyed and
989
00:37:41,159 --> 00:37:44,902
ripped apart in some type of an
990
00:37:45,063 --> 00:37:47,475
upheaval.
991
00:37:51,903 --> 00:37:54,110
FOERSTER: Puma Punku seems to
992
00:37:54,272 --> 00:37:55,842
have become a victim of a
993
00:37:56,007 --> 00:37:58,453
massive flood of some kind.
994
00:37:58,610 --> 00:38:01,113
Several thousand years ago.
995
00:38:01,279 --> 00:38:03,020
There is evidence that a meteor
996
00:38:03,181 --> 00:38:05,855
or a comet struck south of Lake
997
00:38:06,017 --> 00:38:09,794
Titicaca, creating a wall of mud
998
00:38:09,954 --> 00:38:12,025
at least six or ten feet tall
999
00:38:12,190 --> 00:38:15,034
that covered the entire area,
1000
00:38:15,193 --> 00:38:17,036
and we can see evidence of that
1001
00:38:17,195 --> 00:38:18,265
today.
1002
00:38:18,429 --> 00:38:19,874
NARRATOR: At recent
1003
00:38:20,031 --> 00:38:22,102
excavations of Puma Punku,
1004
00:38:22,267 --> 00:38:23,769
researchers have discovered that
1005
00:38:23,935 --> 00:38:25,175
Bits of andesite stone from the
1006
00:38:25,203 --> 00:38:27,649
structural blocks are thoroughly
1007
00:38:27,806 --> 00:38:32,050
mixed in with the soil.
1008
00:38:32,210 --> 00:38:34,053
Might such findings of this
1009
00:38:34,212 --> 00:38:36,556
unusual sou composition be the
1010
00:38:36,714 --> 00:38:38,022
result of a large-scale
1011
00:38:38,183 --> 00:38:41,062
explosion in the remote past, as
1012
00:38:41,219 --> 00:38:42,459
ancient astronaut theorists
1013
00:38:42,620 --> 00:38:44,531
believe?
1014
00:38:44,689 --> 00:38:46,293
CHILDRESS: One possibility is
1015
00:38:46,457 --> 00:38:48,630
that Puma Punku was destroyed in
1016
00:38:48,793 --> 00:38:52,036
some artificial blast that
1017
00:38:52,197 --> 00:38:54,234
literally blew these buildings
1018
00:38:54,399 --> 00:38:57,005
apart, and then later, some
1019
00:38:57,168 --> 00:39:00,081
cataclysmic tidal wave also just
1020
00:39:00,238 --> 00:39:03,151
covered it with mud and muck.
1021
00:39:03,308 --> 00:39:05,049
FOERSTER: Some of these
1022
00:39:05,210 --> 00:39:07,349
stones are so smashed to pieces,
1023
00:39:07,512 --> 00:39:08,672
you can find them anywhere in
1024
00:39:08,813 --> 00:39:09,655
the area.
1025
00:39:09,814 --> 00:39:11,418
You'll find pieces of diorite
1026
00:39:11,583 --> 00:39:13,028
with the angles on it, so that
1027
00:39:13,184 --> 00:39:15,061
was part of Puma Punku.
1028
00:39:15,220 --> 00:39:16,392
So much of it is not simply
1029
00:39:16,554 --> 00:39:17,396
broken.
1030
00:39:17,555 --> 00:39:20,434
It's shattered to the point
1031
00:39:20,592 --> 00:39:22,071
where you can find little tiny
1032
00:39:22,227 --> 00:39:23,535
pieces of diorite anywhere you
1033
00:39:23,695 --> 00:39:26,198
look, and that looks to me like
1034
00:39:26,364 --> 00:39:30,369
an explosion happened.
1035
00:39:30,535 --> 00:39:32,606
CHILDRESS: When you look at
1036
00:39:32,770 --> 00:39:34,408
the construction techniques, it
1037
00:39:34,572 --> 00:39:36,574
would seem indestructible and
1038
00:39:36,741 --> 00:39:40,689
yet it was destroyed.
1039
00:39:40,845 --> 00:39:42,449
NARRATOR: But if the
1040
00:39:42,614 --> 00:39:44,787
structures at Puma Punku were
1041
00:39:44,949 --> 00:39:47,054
constructed with such precision
1042
00:39:47,218 --> 00:39:48,595
and with the heaviest, most
1043
00:39:48,753 --> 00:39:51,233
durable materials available, how
1044
00:39:51,389 --> 00:39:55,132
did it and up in ruins?
1045
00:39:55,293 --> 00:39:56,533
Is it possible, as ancient
1046
00:39:56,694 --> 00:39:58,867
astronaut theorists believe,
1047
00:39:59,030 --> 00:40:00,236
that Puma Punku may have been
1048
00:40:00,398 --> 00:40:08,398
struck by a devastating meteor?
1049
00:40:09,307 --> 00:40:11,150
Or could there be an even more
1050
00:40:11,309 --> 00:40:12,151
incredible explanation for its
1051
00:40:12,310 --> 00:40:14,221
demise?
1052
00:40:14,379 --> 00:40:16,086
NOORY: There could have been
1053
00:40:16,247 --> 00:40:17,920
an alien battle out there where
1054
00:40:18,082 --> 00:40:20,585
they were using technology,
1055
00:40:20,752 --> 00:40:23,665
perhaps nuclear...
1056
00:40:25,290 --> 00:40:27,133
...that blew up everything in
1057
00:40:27,292 --> 00:40:28,134
the region.
1058
00:40:28,293 --> 00:40:30,170
That's very possible.
1059
00:40:30,328 --> 00:40:31,170
Something could have happened
1060
00:40:31,329 --> 00:40:33,172
with our Earth's shield where
1061
00:40:33,331 --> 00:40:35,174
the sun's rays came through at a
1062
00:40:35,333 --> 00:40:37,176
certain time and just burned
1063
00:40:37,335 --> 00:40:40,179
everything and obliterated it.
1064
00:40:40,338 --> 00:40:42,181
The only thing we know for sure
1065
00:40:42,340 --> 00:40:44,183
is, those people at Puma Punku
1066
00:40:44,342 --> 00:40:46,185
are gone.
1067
00:40:46,344 --> 00:40:48,517
We just don't know how or where
1068
00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:50,956
they went.
1069
00:40:51,115 --> 00:40:53,186
TSOUKALOS: I think that Puma
1070
00:40:53,351 --> 00:40:55,592
Punku was deliberately destroyed
1071
00:40:55,753 --> 00:40:57,289
by its builders...
1072
00:40:57,455 --> 00:41:00,368
extraterrestrials... right before
1073
00:41:00,525 --> 00:41:02,129
they decided to leave planet
1074
00:41:02,293 --> 00:41:04,603
Earth and go on lo thew next
1075
00:41:04,762 --> 00:41:06,207
mission.
1076
00:41:06,364 --> 00:41:07,934
CHILDRESS: It's hard to
1077
00:41:08,099 --> 00:41:09,806
imagine the devastating
1078
00:41:09,968 --> 00:41:12,346
destruction that occurred here.
1079
00:41:12,503 --> 00:41:13,345
It would seem like
1080
00:41:13,504 --> 00:41:15,279
extraterrestrials had some
1081
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:17,351
cosmic battle on planet Earth
1082
00:41:17,508 --> 00:41:20,717
before they left.
1083
00:41:20,878 --> 00:41:22,516
COPPENS: There are various
1084
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:23,960
sites across the planet where it
1085
00:41:23,982 --> 00:41:26,223
is said that there was contact
1086
00:41:26,384 --> 00:41:28,887
with nonhuman intelligences.
1087
00:41:29,053 --> 00:41:30,657
But when it comes to Puma Punku,
1088
00:41:30,822 --> 00:41:32,130
what you have is also the
1089
00:41:32,290 --> 00:41:35,237
archaeological remains, which
1090
00:41:35,393 --> 00:41:36,371
tells you something out of the
1091
00:41:36,527 --> 00:41:39,133
ordinary was happening here, and
1092
00:41:39,297 --> 00:41:40,867
when you lay upon the layer of
1093
00:41:41,032 --> 00:41:42,340
mythology, which says that the
1094
00:41:42,500 --> 00:41:45,310
gods were here, I think it is an
1095
00:41:45,470 --> 00:41:47,245
absolutely convincing case right
1096
00:41:47,405 --> 00:41:49,385
now, to conclude that Puma Punku
1097
00:41:49,540 --> 00:41:51,486
stands out as one of the
1098
00:41:51,642 --> 00:41:53,519
preeminent sites where ET will
1099
00:41:53,678 --> 00:41:55,351
have been in residence on this
1100
00:41:55,513 --> 00:41:59,154
planet.
1101
00:41:59,317 --> 00:42:00,694
And so the question then is,
1102
00:42:00,852 --> 00:42:03,355
Puma Punku being a base camp for
1103
00:42:03,521 --> 00:42:04,659
an ET civilization here on
1104
00:42:04,822 --> 00:42:07,701
planet Earth, if they left, does
1105
00:42:07,859 --> 00:42:09,861
that potentially mean that, when
1106
00:42:10,028 --> 00:42:11,336
they left, that somehow they
1107
00:42:11,496 --> 00:42:13,567
destroyed Puma Punku as well?
1108
00:42:13,731 --> 00:42:15,836
FOERSTER: If they made this
1109
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:18,071
to be a factory or something, at
1110
00:42:18,236 --> 00:42:19,909
the end of its use they may have
1111
00:42:20,071 --> 00:42:24,019
simply blown it up... because
1112
00:42:24,175 --> 00:42:25,620
they didn't want anyone to use
1113
00:42:25,777 --> 00:42:27,222
the technology that they had
1114
00:42:27,378 --> 00:42:30,359
left behind.
1115
00:42:30,515 --> 00:42:32,085
CHILDRESS: The ancient Indian
1116
00:42:32,250 --> 00:42:34,423
epics... the Ramayana, the
1117
00:42:34,585 --> 00:42:36,189
Mahabharata... they're taking
1118
00:42:36,354 --> 00:42:38,356
about these horrific wars that
1119
00:42:38,523 --> 00:42:40,901
happened in the past with
1120
00:42:41,059 --> 00:42:43,733
airships, these vimanas,
1121
00:42:43,895 --> 00:42:47,536
spacecraft, huge destructive
1122
00:42:47,698 --> 00:42:50,201
weapons like atomic weapons, so
1123
00:42:50,368 --> 00:42:52,473
maybe Puma Punku was destroyed
1124
00:42:52,637 --> 00:42:57,279
in this ancient planetary war.
1125
00:42:59,610 --> 00:43:01,385
FOERSTER: Since it is unique
1126
00:43:01,546 --> 00:43:03,924
to the area, ii may have been an
1127
00:43:04,082 --> 00:43:05,163
outstation or something for
1128
00:43:05,249 --> 00:43:07,160
another civilization, possibly
1129
00:43:07,318 --> 00:43:08,318
from India, possibly from
1130
00:43:08,386 --> 00:43:11,333
Atlantis, possibly from...
1131
00:43:11,489 --> 00:43:12,968
CHILDRESS: Outer space.
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FOERSTER: Exactly.
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NARRATOR: Precision
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stonework... unparalleled
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engineering... and
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incomprehensible destruction.
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Was Puma Punku really built by
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extraterrestrial travelers?
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And if so, what was its purpose?
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Was it an outpost ..
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A battleground... or could it
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have been a final destination?
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Perhaps, one day, we will solve
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the riddle and find out, once
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and for all, just who we are and
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why we're here.
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Captioning sponsored by
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