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Dick Clark: May I have...
I'm sure most everybody knows,
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but for anybody who might not,
may we introduce you by name?
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- Ai jardine - thank you, ai.
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- Dennis Wilson.
- Thank you.
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- Brian Wilson.
- Carl Wilson.
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Mike love.
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Now, I think... whoop,
what happened? There you are.
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How long has this singing been going on?
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About three years now.
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It's an amazing thing,
because you have hit after hit.
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Who determines, Brian,
what will be done next?
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Well, I guess I do, I don't know.
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I write the songs and produce them,
so I have a lot to say about it.
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- J“ ooh, ooh, ooh...
- Brian: I think it's beautiful.
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This is a little intro, you know.
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All right, let's try
to really pull it off good now.
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Here we go.
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Play hard and strong, all the way.
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You know the part...
Do-do, do-do...
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Never more than just a "do-do, do-do."
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- Man: Then what after that?
- Brian: Then it goes...
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J“ da-da, da-da, da-da, da-da
boom! Two, three, four...
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Brian: Let me hear the organ.
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Perfect. Ok, we'll go with that.
Let's go again, please.
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J“ I know myself, I know my real power
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j“ will get me through again
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j'ah...
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Brian: Here we go.
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J“ if you stick with it, baby,
things work out
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j“ you find a way to win
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man: You've been out
on this really long tour.
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- Right.
- Recording several new albums.
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You know, really non-stop
since your late 503.
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- Right, right.
- Um...
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How do you explain that kind of
burst of creativity and energy?
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Where does this sudden surge
of creativity and energy come for you?
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It starts in my brain,
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makes its way out onto the piano,
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and then on to the speakers
in the studio.
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Yeah.
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- Is that something you can explain?
- No, I can't. I can't.
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Brian: And now, I'd like to start it out
with the organ and the Fender bass.
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Jakob Dylan:
He was one of the first people
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to actually use the studio
as an instrument itself.
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Brian:
Play hard and strong all the way.
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Really feel it, fellas.
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There's a certain amount of songwriting
you can learn how to do
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- and you can educate yourself.
- Brian: Watch me on that part.
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Jakob Dylan: It's a fact that some
people are better than other people,
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and Brian's one of the people
who's just better than other people.
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Brian: Are we ready? Let's go.
Take five, "good vibrations".
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J“ I'm pickin' up good vibrations...
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"Good vibrations", goddamn.
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The idea that the chorus
is at one studio
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and the verse is at another studio.
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That's why that song is
so freaky and so wonderful.
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Brian: “Good vibrations"
was recorded in four studios,
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western, sunset sound,
gold star and rca Victor.
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Well, each studio was different,
you know?
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Like, not any one studio's the same.
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J“ excitations...
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He sets a very high standard for,
not just being innovative,
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but to also be emotionally evocative.
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J“ when [look in her eyes
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j“ she goes with me to a blossom world
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j“ I'm pickin' up good vibrations
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j“ she's givin' me excitations
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Elton John:
Well, he used all the orchestra.
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He used orchestral things.
He used timpani, he used woodwind.
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His musical knowledge
wasn'tjust as a band.
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He had an orchestra in his head.
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- J“ good vibrations
- j“ oom-bop-bop
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- j“ excitations...
- J“ good, good, good...
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Elton John: I mean, the Beatles
had George Martin to do it for them,
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but Brian, he did it himself.
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J“ excitations...
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Well, the Beatles were probably
my favorite group.
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Very, very inspirational
with rubber soul.
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That made me write the pet sounds album.
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J“ I don't know where
but she sends me there...
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The level of musicianship
and musicality,
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I don't think anybody's touched it yet,
for my money.
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J“ what elation
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j“ oh, my, my...
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Linda Perry: Back at that time,
there's a lot of upbeat, up-tempo songs,
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but Brian brought in
this haunting Harmony.
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J“ those iovin' good vibrations...
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Linda Perry: You know there's something
going on with Brian Wilson.
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There's no hiding
that this man is troubled
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and trying to escape something.
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J“ um-Dee-dah, oh, oh
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j“ gotta keep those iovin' good...
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J“ vibrations...
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Don was: He's just...
One of the greatest artists
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who ever walked
the face of the earth.
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J'ah...
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In our time or in any time.
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J“ good, good, good
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- j“ good vibrations
- j“ she's givin' me excitations
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- j“ good, good, good
- j“ bop, bop
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j“ good vibrations
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j" na na na na na, na na na
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- j“ na na na na na, na na na
- j“ bopa-bopa-bopa-ba, ba
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Brian: While we're
making the tapes, Bob,
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we won't be able to have
that camera going.
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It's a wonderful treat for me tonight
to have heard and seen the beach boys.
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And as you can hear in the background,
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the girls are still hollering for them.
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I'm quite pleased to present
to you two of them,
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Brian Wilson on my right,
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and Carl Wilson, his brother,
on the left.
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So, this is just two of them.
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In just a minute, you'll meet
the rest of them, but...
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Brian, I understand
that you've written
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many of the songs
that you all have recorded.
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When you write a song,
for yourself or for your group,
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what gives you
the incentive to write them?
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Well, usually, just the fact
that we're in the industry
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and there's a lot of groups
competing with us,
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and I feel that competition, you know,
and also I just... I love music,
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and I get very inspired,
just generally creative anyway.
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- Right, I understand.
- I just do it all the time.
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Well, now, how many of them have you had
that have been million-sellers?
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Well, actually, million-sellers,
we've had one million-seller,
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that was "I get around", just recently.
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- You wrote this?
- Yes, I did.
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J“ round, round, get around
[Get around, yeah
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j“ get around, round, round
[Get around
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j“ I get around...
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J“ get around, round, round
[Get around
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j“ from town to town...
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Taylor Hawkins: Here's this genius
who just can't help but come up
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with these complex arrangements
of harmonies,
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and then his little brother
comes in and says,
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"you guys should write songs
about cars and surfing,
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'cause that's what kids are into."
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J“ I gotta find a new place
where the kids are hip
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j“ my buddies and me are gettin'
real well known, yeah...
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Presenter: Name some of them
that you've written, Brian.
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Ok...
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Well, starting with "surfin'",
our first record,
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"surfin' safari", "409", “surfer girl,"
"little deuce coupe",
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"shut down", "surfin' usa",
"be true to your school...“
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- “the little old lady from Pasadena"?
- That's jan and Dean.
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- Is that right?
- And... "Fun, fun, fun".
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- Oh, it goes on and on.
- "I get around", "don't worry, baby".
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We had "little Saint Nick"
at christmastime.
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- Pardon me?
- "When I grow up..."
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"When I grow up"
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And "she knows me too well“
are our latest records.
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You certainly are
a talented young man.
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Let's talk to your brother
just a minute.
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Do you share this
admiration for your brother?
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Yes, well...
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He's done very well with this,
you know, I mean,
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we've had very good luck
with the records.
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- You're Carl, right?
- Right.
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- Brian: Carl's the lead guitar player.
- Lead guitar.
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How did you assemble the group?
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One day, as we were walking down
the street, we all bumped heads.
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I don't know.
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Dennis got the idea that we should
write something about surfing
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because he was a big avid surfer then.
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- You're a surfer?
- Yes, ma'am.
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Well, this is something
we don't have much out in Oklahoma.
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Yeah, I know.
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Thanks so much for stopping by.
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May I compliment you
on your beautiful dress?
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- It is beautiful.
- Thank you.
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Is it a gown or a dress?
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Well, actually it's sort of
a beach girl type...
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I like that.
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I wanted to be in style when I talked
to the beach boys.
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J“ ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh...
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J“ get around, round, round
[Get around
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Brian: At the end of the concert,
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the girls would all rush the stage
to get Dennis.
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You know, me and Mike
and the guys would go,
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“what's going on here. 'You know.
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The girls were all crying,
"Dennis, Dennis," you know?
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- Yeah. He was our sex symbol.
- Right, right.
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You and he had a little competition
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for some women sometimes,
too, didn't you?
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- Me and Dennis?
- Yeah.
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He was a ladies' man.
I never was a ladies' man, you know?
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- Right.
- He was always the ladies' man.
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What prevented you
from being a ladies' man, do you think?
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- Ah, just shy of girls, a little shy.
- Uh-huh, right.
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- Brian: You can park right there.
- Jason: In the handicapped?
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- Brian: Yeah, I always park there.
- Jason: Really?
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- Brian: Yeah.
- Jason: Ok.
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These guys'll probably wanna move it,
but I'll park here.
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Brian: Ok. I'm hungry.
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- Jason: All right, let's get in there.
- Brian: Ok.
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Must have been to this deli
with you about 20 times.
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Yeah, at least 20.
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- Brian: Right?
- Right.
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- Brian: Good times here.
- Yeah.
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It's... I'm hot, you know?
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- Yeah.
- I'm nervous.
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- Yeah.
- I didn't sleep last night
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and my head feels wacky.
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- Jason: Oh, it does?
- Yeah.
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- Jason: Why don't we just relax?
- Ok. Enjoy our food.
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When you get scared, what do you do?
You just take a deep breath?
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Jason: Ifl get scared,
I take a deep breath,
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but I take it...
Try and take it from my belly.
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Oh, take it...
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- Jason: Really deep in here.
- Right.
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Jason: And then...
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How's your mood been?
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- Brian: My mood?
- Yeah.
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- It's been about even.
- Good.
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Not depressed, not elated, just even.
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- Yeah.
- Jason: You feeling scared now?
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A little bit.
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- It's nice to be with you.
- You're a good guy, Jason.
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Jason: Thank you, Brian. You are too.
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You are a cool person.
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You have a very consistent way
of talking, you know?
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You sorta stay in this one space,
you know?
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- In talk.
- Does it make you feel comfortable?
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- Yeah, helps me out.
- Good, I'm glad.
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When I'm scared,
I listen to you talk, you know?
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- Really?
- Yeah.
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- And thinking it'll calm you down?
- Yeah.
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All right, man. Well, I'm there for you.
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- I'm there for you too.
- Thanks, man.
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Jason: I first met Brian in 1995.
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I went to interview him for the paper
I was working for at the time,
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and we had a nice chat.
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And when I first came to work
at rolling stone in 1997,
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Brian had begun to start
what was gonna be sort of a solo career.
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He was putting a band together,
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he was releasing a record
called imagination,
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and I convinced jann, my boss,
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to let me go to Chicago,
where he was rehearsing.
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One of the first times we spoke,
we were sitting in his living room.
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We were talking, and sort of
right in the middle of our chat,
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about ten minutes in,
he just started to fidget,
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and he, he said, "I gotta go."
And he got up and he left.
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I was sitting there.
I didn't know if he was coming back
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or not coming back,
and I waited a while.
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I just sorta started looking around,
and I found myself in the kitchen,
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where I found Brian in the refrigerator.
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I said, "what's going on?“
He said, "I just got a little scared."
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And I said,
"well, what did you get scared of?“
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he said, “I don't know.
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You know, sometimes I just
get scared, things scare me."
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I said, "like what?"
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He said, "like 'what a fool believes'.
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You know that song
by the doobie brothers?
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Scares the hell out of me."
You know? And it was just like that.
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And we started having these moments,
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and ever since then,
it just kinda became
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part of my beat at rolling stone
to cover Brian.
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J“ wouldn't it be nice if we were older?
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J“ then we wouldn't have to wait so long
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- j“ and wouldn't it be nice...
- Jason: And we became buddies.
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J“ to live together?
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J“ in the kinda world where we belong
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Jason: The idea of doing an interview
makes Brian nervous,
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so he'll often ask
if we can just take a drive
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and listen to some music.
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Look at that old car.
What kinda car is that?
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- What is that?
- I don't know.
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Is that a Rolls-Royce?
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I think it's...
I don't think it's a rolls.
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I think it's American, isn't it?
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Cadillac.
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- Cadillac?
- Yeah.
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Old Cadillac, right?
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- Yeah.
- From what, the '303?
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Or maybe from the '40s?
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- Maybe '40s.
- Yeah.
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Ask the guy. Yell it out, ask him.
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- Well, I can't...
- Hey, buddy! What year is that car?
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- '41.
- Thank you. '41.
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J“ let's go surfin' now,
everybody's iearnin' how
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j“ come on a safari...
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It was probably "surfin' safari", the
first beach boys record I ever bought.
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The voices, the tone of the voices,
was so beautiful.
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Bit like a classical choir, in a way.
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It made California sound
such an incredible place to go.
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You know, the rooftop is down.
The story begins.
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And then they invite you
into that world,
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and that world has its own rules
and its own code
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and its own story to tell.
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There was no greater world
created in rock-and-roll
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than the beach boys.
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I mean, they defined southern California
for everybody around the world.
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Elton John: It just took you
out of where you were
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and took you to another place.
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J“ if you're comin', get ready to go...
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Have you ever been to paradise cove?
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Years and years ago.
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Do you remember when you were
shooting the album cover
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for the beach boys' first album?
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- Can't remember.
- Right. It's a long time ago.
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- Yep.
- Was it a little bit funny
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singing all the songs about surfing
without actually surfing?
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- Yeah, Dennis surfed. I never learned.
- Right.
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- There's paradise cove.
- Here we are. Closer than I thought.
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J“ surfin' safari...
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J“ yes, I'm gonna take you
surfin' with me
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- there it is, look!
- There it is!
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“This marks 'the spot."'
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Brian: Fifty-five years ago.
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J“ let's go surfin' now,
everybody's iearnin' how
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j“ come on a safari with me
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j“ come on a safari with me
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- j“ surfin' safari
- j“ yeah, me
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j“ with me, with me...
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How you feeling about hawthorne?
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Uh, you know, I'm a little nervous
to go back there.
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- You know what I mean?
- Hm-hmm.
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'Cause, like, I grew up there,
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and it's, like, I have a lot
of sentiments about it, you know?
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Jason: Right.
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Please play “it's ok."
On 15 big ones.
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Ok. You got it.
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J“ it's that time again
to shed your load, hit the road
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j“ on the run again
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j“ summer skies in our eyes
and a warmer sun
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j“ it's one for all, all for one,
all for all-out fun
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j“ gotta go to it
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Jason: Has hawthorne changed a lot
from when you were young?
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Is it familiar-looking to you?
329
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- What's that?
- Jason: Hawthorne?
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It doesn't look the same.
It looks a little different.
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Jason: Uh-huh.
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- So this is 119th street right here?
- Brian: Yeah. 119th.
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- And this is the street you lived on?
- Yeah.
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Jason: So this is where your house was.
Right here.
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I don't wanna get out,
I just wanna look.
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Jason: Ok. So, this was all
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- where the house was, right here?
- Yeah.
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Jason:
Uh-huh. Look at the cover of the album.
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- Brian: Yeah.
- Jason: Paradise cove.
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"Site of the childhood home
of the beach boys."
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J“ there's a world where I can go
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j“ and tell my secrets to
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j“ in my room...
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Dennis Wilson: Friday nights,
my father would get his paycheck.
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So the three of us would be
in the back seat singing away.
346
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And that's... actually that's
the birth of the three brothers
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singing together.
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J“ in this world...
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J“ I lock out
all my worries and my fears
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j“ in my room...
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When we'd be singing Harmony together,
my father would just...
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Fall down crying with joy.
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J“ in my room
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j“ in my room
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j“ do my dreaming...
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Brian: There's me at my piano
when I wrote "surfer girl".
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J“ lie awake and pray...
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Forget it.
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That one killed you when it came out.
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I played that thing... a thousand times.
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J“ yesterday
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j“ now it's dark and I'm alone
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j“ but I won't be afraid...
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Jason: How did it feel to be there?
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It was a little...
Scared me a little bit, you know?
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- Jason: Did it?
- 'Cause, well, it didn't look the same.
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Right.
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Yeah.
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J“ 80 faithfully
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j“ you still believe in me
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j“ I wanna cry...
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J“ ah, ah, ah, ah, ah,
ah, ah, ah, ah, ah
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j“ ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah
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j“ ah, ah, ah, ah, ah,
ah, ah, ah, ah, ah...
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- Is this dartmouth?
- To your right, right, right.
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- This is where you moved with Marilyn.
- Right.
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Jason:
Was it right after you got married?
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Brian: About three months
after we got married.
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Jason:
Wow. What a big time in your life.
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Yeah. I did an acid trip there.
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A-ha! The first time?
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Yeah.
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- Oh, it was scary.
- What happened?
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I don't know, just...
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This friend of mine gave me acid
and it freaked me out.
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I wrote "California girls",
"help me, Rhonda",
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and "she's not the little girl
I once knew".
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I wrote all those songs there.
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Jason: Were you still high
when you were doing that?
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Uh, no. No, I wasn't.
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I wrote "California girls"
about a week or two after acid.
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Ok. Did you have a kinda
western thing in mind?
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Well, I just had this
j“ doobie doobie, doo
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I guess that's western, right?
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J“ well, east coast girls are hip
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j“ I really dig those styles they wear
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j“ and the southern girls
with the way they talk
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j“ they knock me out
when I'm down there
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Jason: Did you have a feeling
that was gonna be a popular song?
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Oh, yeah, I could tell
when I first wrote it. After we cut it,
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Mike did the lead,
and he sang great lead.
402
00:20:26,016 --> 00:20:27,268
He's a great singer.
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00:20:27,393 --> 00:20:30,938
J“ and the northern girls
with the way they kiss
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00:20:31,063 --> 00:20:34,400
j“ they keep their boyfriends
warm at night
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j“ I wish they all could be
California girls
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j“ I wish they all could be California...
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It was quite a different change-up
from what I usually wrote.
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The way you connected the intro
of the song...
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00:20:50,666 --> 00:20:52,835
- Right.
- To the rest of it was...
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A different kind of a thing.
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Brian just threw away the rule book
and it was all in his head,
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and it's just,
"wow, are you kidding me?“
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00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:02,136
"what were you thinking, man?
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How did you come up
with this combination
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00:21:04,138 --> 00:21:05,514
of chords and voices?"
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He said, “I was at the piano,
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and I was trying not to move
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my highest fingers
and my lowest fingers,
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00:21:11,687 --> 00:21:16,859
but make cool geometric patterns
with the internal fingers."
420
00:21:16,984 --> 00:21:21,781
I don't know if he was
telling me the truth.
421
00:21:21,864 --> 00:21:23,532
But he definitely said that to me.
422
00:21:23,657 --> 00:21:25,951
But if you think about that,
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that's kinda like what Mozart
does with a string quartet.
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Al jardine:
Brian had this unique ability
425
00:21:32,708 --> 00:21:36,754
to write a great melody and also
arrange some great harmonies
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and produce some great records,
427
00:21:38,464 --> 00:21:40,216
so we had all in one with Brian Wilson.
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00:21:40,382 --> 00:21:42,676
We had shall we call it...
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The jackpot.
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00:21:45,304 --> 00:21:47,681
Darian sahanaja:
Equate that blend, that Harmony,
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the sound of the vocals...
It's like looking up to the heavens.
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It's almost ethereal.
There's a very ethereal rising up.
433
00:21:56,065 --> 00:21:58,359
J“ I wish they all could be...
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Nick Jonas: The only way
to really accomplish a sound that big
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is in knowing what you want to hear,
but also
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00:22:03,614 --> 00:22:05,825
placing some trust in the people
you're working with
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00:22:05,908 --> 00:22:08,702
and saying, "we can all do this together
if you just follow my lead."
438
00:22:08,828 --> 00:22:12,039
J“ I wish they all could be California...
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00:22:12,164 --> 00:22:13,499
Jason: Brian was a leader,
440
00:22:13,624 --> 00:22:16,418
and he could shape this group
around the brothers, you know,
441
00:22:16,544 --> 00:22:19,755
and his cousin and his neighbor,
and that was his team,
442
00:22:19,839 --> 00:22:21,215
and he led these guys.
443
00:22:21,382 --> 00:22:24,218
And I think that that was...
Gave Brian so much confidence.
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00:22:24,385 --> 00:22:28,013
They would do anything that he thought
was the right thing to do.
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00:22:28,138 --> 00:22:30,140
J“ California girls...
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00:22:30,266 --> 00:22:32,476
Hey, let's go...
Where you wanna go to now?
447
00:22:32,601 --> 00:22:34,186
So, let's go to Laurel way.
448
00:22:34,353 --> 00:22:36,564
- Ok.
- You know how to get there?
449
00:22:36,689 --> 00:22:38,858
Laurel way, trying to think. Uh...
450
00:22:38,983 --> 00:22:42,403
- Go up Santa Monica or sunset?
- Laurel way... can you navigate it?
451
00:22:42,528 --> 00:22:43,696
Yeah.
452
00:22:47,032 --> 00:22:49,743
What did you feel like
when you lived here
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00:22:49,869 --> 00:22:53,122
and you were young, married,
money, writing hits?
454
00:22:53,247 --> 00:22:54,915
What was that feeling for you?
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00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:58,377
It was excitement. Exciting and happy.
456
00:22:59,420 --> 00:23:00,588
Groovy feeling.
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00:23:01,213 --> 00:23:04,133
Haven't seen it since 1966.
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00:23:04,258 --> 00:23:07,887
J“ I had to prove that I could
make it alone now
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00:23:07,970 --> 00:23:10,556
j“ but that's not me
460
00:23:12,266 --> 00:23:17,062
j“ I wanted to show how
independent I'd grown now
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Jason: Were your parents around then?
Did they come visit?
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00:23:19,690 --> 00:23:21,734
Brian: No, they never did.
463
00:23:21,859 --> 00:23:24,069
Jason: Wasn't this your first
sort of big purchase?
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00:23:24,194 --> 00:23:26,739
- Brian: Yeah.
- That must have been an exciting time.
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00:23:27,448 --> 00:23:29,867
It was, Jason, it was a great time.
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00:23:29,950 --> 00:23:33,495
J“ just one girl
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j“ I'm a little bit scared
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j“ 'cause I haven't been home
in a long time...
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00:23:46,258 --> 00:23:49,011
It's right up here.
I think it's right up there.
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Jason: This one?
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00:23:50,721 --> 00:23:53,724
No, it has a view,
so it's gotta be a little higher.
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00:23:53,849 --> 00:23:55,100
Jason: Ok.
473
00:23:55,225 --> 00:23:58,771
It has a view of the whole
of downtown Los Angeles.
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00:23:58,896 --> 00:24:00,481
- Oh, wow.
- All the way to the beach.
475
00:24:00,606 --> 00:24:02,942
Jason: Did you have a room
where you would work?
476
00:24:03,025 --> 00:24:04,568
The piano was in a sandbox.
477
00:24:04,693 --> 00:24:06,487
What was the idea behind that?
478
00:24:07,237 --> 00:24:10,658
I don't know, I just wanted
to have a sandbox.
479
00:24:11,450 --> 00:24:13,911
- While you worked?
- Yeah. Took our shoes and socks off,
480
00:24:13,994 --> 00:24:17,957
and I wrote, you know, music
on a piano in the sandbox.
481
00:24:18,082 --> 00:24:22,503
I put an arabian tent up
in my den, and I put, like,
482
00:24:22,628 --> 00:24:26,632
eight Tiffany lamps
in the living room,
483
00:24:26,757 --> 00:24:28,801
hanging from the ceiling.
484
00:24:29,885 --> 00:24:31,303
It was a trip.
485
00:24:31,470 --> 00:24:35,015
It sounds like it.
What did you do inside the tent?
486
00:24:35,140 --> 00:24:37,017
- Brian: Smoked grass.
- Jason: Uh-huh.
487
00:24:37,142 --> 00:24:39,770
Ate peanut butter and jelly sandwiches.
488
00:24:40,479 --> 00:24:41,730
You know.
489
00:24:43,816 --> 00:24:45,317
Young and rich.
490
00:24:46,777 --> 00:24:47,987
J“ I'm glad I went
491
00:24:48,112 --> 00:24:52,741
j“ now I'm that much more sure
that we 're ready...
492
00:24:52,866 --> 00:24:56,954
That's where I wrote
the pet sounds album
493
00:24:57,913 --> 00:24:59,999
- and "good vibrations".
- Wow.
494
00:25:00,082 --> 00:25:03,002
That's some pretty big stuff
you wrote up here.
495
00:25:04,128 --> 00:25:05,129
Brian: Yeah.
496
00:25:05,254 --> 00:25:07,506
Jason:
So, you think you'd wanna tour more?
497
00:25:07,631 --> 00:25:09,675
Yeah, I like to go on the road.
498
00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:11,093
What do you like about it?
499
00:25:11,218 --> 00:25:13,429
- Well, the concerts.
- Yep.
500
00:25:14,054 --> 00:25:17,516
- Makes you feel good?
- Yeah. It's fun to play a concert.
501
00:25:17,641 --> 00:25:18,684
Hm-hmm.
502
00:25:22,229 --> 00:25:25,190
Jason: You used to get nervous,
but not so much anymore, huh?
503
00:25:25,733 --> 00:25:28,819
No, before a concert,
I get very nervous.
504
00:25:28,944 --> 00:25:31,572
How long does it take you
to calm down on stage?
505
00:25:31,697 --> 00:25:33,157
About two minutes.
506
00:25:39,621 --> 00:25:42,332
Jason: To this day,
Brian's still little bit nervous
507
00:25:42,458 --> 00:25:43,792
about pet sounds, you know?
508
00:25:43,917 --> 00:25:48,213
"Are they gonna like it? Is it too soft?
"Is it manly?", he'll say sometimes.
509
00:25:48,338 --> 00:25:50,424
Hello, Los Angeles!
510
00:25:51,050 --> 00:25:53,010
The Hollywood bowl.
511
00:25:58,223 --> 00:26:02,644
J“ where did your long hair go?
512
00:26:04,646 --> 00:26:08,609
J“ where is that girl I used to know?
513
00:26:10,778 --> 00:26:16,450
J“ how could you lose that happy glow?
514
00:26:17,451 --> 00:26:20,037
J“ oh, Caroline, no...
515
00:26:20,746 --> 00:26:22,974
Bruce Springsteen:
Well, you have the great "Caroline, no.“
516
00:26:22,998 --> 00:26:26,293
it's one of the greatest songs
in pop history,
517
00:26:26,418 --> 00:26:30,297
as far as dealing
with oncoming adulthood,
518
00:26:30,422 --> 00:26:34,718
loss of innocence,
reckoning with the adult world...
519
00:26:35,427 --> 00:26:38,347
And the terrible heartache
that comes along with it.
520
00:26:38,472 --> 00:26:40,891
J“ but that's not true
521
00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:42,726
j“ well, Caroline, you...
522
00:26:51,235 --> 00:26:55,531
Linda Perry: I can hear him exploring
the possibilities of these songs
523
00:26:55,697 --> 00:26:58,909
that he probably woke up,
dug his feet in the sand,
524
00:26:59,034 --> 00:27:00,369
and wrote these songs.
525
00:27:02,037 --> 00:27:05,916
J“ could I ever find in you again
526
00:27:08,043 --> 00:27:11,839
j“ the things that made me love you
so much then...
527
00:27:11,964 --> 00:27:13,733
Elton John:
He started out writing happy songs
528
00:27:13,757 --> 00:27:16,426
and then, as he grew as a musician,
529
00:27:16,552 --> 00:27:20,722
his tastes refined, his writing refined,
530
00:27:20,848 --> 00:27:23,308
and he wanted to get away
from the three-chord thing
531
00:27:23,433 --> 00:27:26,145
and experiment, and when you do that,
532
00:27:26,228 --> 00:27:28,188
you are drawn to the darker side.
I know I am.
533
00:27:28,313 --> 00:27:30,399
Brian's music, you know,
especially pet sounds,
534
00:27:30,524 --> 00:27:32,234
you never move on from it.
535
00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:34,695
I'll be listening to that record
till the day I die.
536
00:27:34,820 --> 00:27:36,446
Bruce Springsteen: Pet sounds,
537
00:27:36,572 --> 00:27:39,950
the beauty of it
carries with it a sense of...
538
00:27:40,075 --> 00:27:42,536
Joyfulness even in the pain of living.
539
00:27:42,703 --> 00:27:45,164
The joyfulness of an emotional life.
540
00:27:45,247 --> 00:27:48,167
You have this music bed
that is so complex,
541
00:27:48,250 --> 00:27:49,835
but the lyrics were very simple.
542
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:52,504
All these concepts of things
that we all ask ourselves,
543
00:27:52,671 --> 00:27:53,755
and it's there forever.
544
00:27:53,881 --> 00:27:55,674
Fifty years later,
we're still celebrating
545
00:27:55,799 --> 00:27:58,760
what is probably one of
the greatest records ever made.
546
00:28:18,071 --> 00:28:19,698
Whoa!
547
00:28:19,823 --> 00:28:24,578
I don't even know what that is.
Flutes and reverb? I don't know, man.
548
00:28:24,745 --> 00:28:27,581
J“ without you...
549
00:28:27,748 --> 00:28:28,999
Whoa.
550
00:28:30,167 --> 00:28:34,254
J“ god only knows
what I'd be without you
551
00:28:34,379 --> 00:28:38,425
j“ god only knows
what I'd be without you
552
00:28:38,550 --> 00:28:40,969
j“ god only knows
what I'd be without you
553
00:28:42,596 --> 00:28:46,433
J“ god only knows
what I'd be without you
554
00:28:46,558 --> 00:28:50,312
j“ god only knows
what I'd be without you
555
00:28:50,437 --> 00:28:52,105
j“ god only knows
what I'd be without you
556
00:28:52,231 --> 00:28:54,358
j“ god only knows
557
00:28:54,483 --> 00:28:58,237
j“ god only knows
what I'd be without you
558
00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:00,280
j“ god only knows
what I'd be without you
559
00:29:00,405 --> 00:29:02,157
j“ god only knows
560
00:29:02,241 --> 00:29:03,242
j“ god only knows...
561
00:29:03,367 --> 00:29:06,787
I don't even know where to begin.
562
00:29:07,829 --> 00:29:10,475
Nick Jonas: Probably took a minute
for everyone to wrap their heads around
563
00:29:10,499 --> 00:29:13,877
a 23-year-old kid coming in
and telling 'em what was up.
564
00:29:16,255 --> 00:29:18,632
That's a banjo. It is a banjo, huh?
565
00:29:20,259 --> 00:29:22,678
Elton John: Brian always had this thing
566
00:29:22,844 --> 00:29:25,764
where he used the fifth note
of a chord as the bass note.
567
00:29:25,889 --> 00:29:28,100
"God only knows"
is a prime example of that.
568
00:29:28,225 --> 00:29:30,352
J“ I may not always...
With the bass note.
569
00:29:30,477 --> 00:29:33,021
And "someone saved my life tonight"
is exactly the same.
570
00:29:36,608 --> 00:29:38,652
So, you can hear
the other instruments.
571
00:29:38,819 --> 00:29:41,571
They're all in one room
at the same time playing.
572
00:29:44,950 --> 00:29:48,036
With Brian's music, you hear
his spirit, and it's like...
573
00:29:48,161 --> 00:29:50,289
He may be playing a c chord,
574
00:29:50,372 --> 00:29:53,458
but there's, like, this other weird
Harmony drifting in over it.
575
00:29:53,583 --> 00:29:57,379
He's using the available tools
that all of us have.
576
00:29:57,504 --> 00:29:59,298
You know, it may be a piano
or a harpsichord
577
00:29:59,381 --> 00:30:01,800
or a guitar or whatever,
but it's all in the architecture
578
00:30:01,925 --> 00:30:04,011
or the recording technique.
579
00:30:04,136 --> 00:30:05,929
Everybody has a piano or a guitar.
580
00:30:06,054 --> 00:30:08,140
Go grab whatever the fuck you
want, but it's the way
581
00:30:08,265 --> 00:30:12,644
you put in the strangeness,
that's what he's the master of.
582
00:30:12,811 --> 00:30:14,313
Don was: Listen to that basic track.
583
00:30:14,438 --> 00:30:19,693
Sounds to me like it's maybe
a piano and a banjo
584
00:30:19,860 --> 00:30:24,906
and a harmonica
kinda all becoming one sound.
585
00:30:25,032 --> 00:30:28,535
Brian had to sit home,
dream up these textures
586
00:30:28,660 --> 00:30:31,997
that no one had ever, ever used.
587
00:30:33,206 --> 00:30:37,878
That's one reason why people say
Brian's a genius.
588
00:30:38,003 --> 00:30:39,880
That's being a complete visionary,
589
00:30:40,005 --> 00:30:43,675
to dream up these textures
that never existed before.
590
00:30:43,842 --> 00:30:46,219
I'm still awestruck by the construction.
591
00:30:46,345 --> 00:30:50,891
How he took very complex arrangements,
and yet, at the end of the day,
592
00:30:51,016 --> 00:30:55,771
they sounded so simple
when they entered your ear.
593
00:30:55,937 --> 00:30:59,316
Bob gaudio: I think his imagination
is what made him a great producer.
594
00:30:59,399 --> 00:31:02,527
We can all sit here
and say we have all the technology
595
00:31:02,652 --> 00:31:05,030
and we know how to use it
and we know how to do it,
596
00:31:05,155 --> 00:31:07,532
but the bottom line is
it doesn't matter what you know,
597
00:31:07,657 --> 00:31:08,867
it's what you're gonna do.
598
00:31:08,992 --> 00:31:12,371
J“ god only knows what I'd be without you
599
00:31:12,454 --> 00:31:15,207
I've been making records
for 40-some years,
600
00:31:15,332 --> 00:31:18,627
and I don't know how you do this.
601
00:31:18,752 --> 00:31:21,296
I don't know how you do that.
602
00:31:21,380 --> 00:31:23,757
Nobody knows.
603
00:31:23,924 --> 00:31:27,511
Linda Perry: What I hear
is his competitive nature,
604
00:31:27,636 --> 00:31:31,181
him wanting to be more
than what everybody else was.
605
00:31:31,306 --> 00:31:33,517
And you can totally hear
how he was trying
606
00:31:33,642 --> 00:31:36,228
to make things sound
better than the Beatles.
607
00:31:36,353 --> 00:31:40,273
But I think, more so, his
biggest competitor was himself.
608
00:31:40,399 --> 00:31:43,402
- J“ you...
- Brian: How was that, was that cool?
609
00:31:43,485 --> 00:31:44,945
- Man: It's beautiful.
- All right.
610
00:31:45,070 --> 00:31:47,406
Jason: When he started doing
the music around pet sounds,
611
00:31:47,489 --> 00:31:51,993
which was more complex,
more orchestral, more personal,
612
00:31:52,119 --> 00:31:54,663
you know, the guys started saying,
“whoa now," you know?
613
00:31:54,788 --> 00:31:56,581
I mean,
"where are we going with this?"
614
00:31:56,706 --> 00:31:59,251
You know, this isn't about
cars and girls anymore.
615
00:31:59,376 --> 00:32:01,545
And things started to fragment.
616
00:32:01,670 --> 00:32:03,463
And I don't think it's any wonder
617
00:32:03,588 --> 00:32:07,134
that Brian started to lose
his confidence around that time.
618
00:32:24,860 --> 00:32:27,779
Jason: When you think about
recording or touring,
619
00:32:27,946 --> 00:32:30,740
do you feel like you still have
something to accomplish musically?
620
00:32:30,866 --> 00:32:34,369
Do you still have things
you wanna do?
621
00:32:34,453 --> 00:32:36,204
Yeah, I wanna make
a rock-and-roll album.
622
00:32:36,329 --> 00:32:39,499
- Hm-hmm.
- Maybe something good, you know?
623
00:32:39,624 --> 00:32:40,792
Yeah.
624
00:32:40,959 --> 00:32:42,794
Jason: What's rock-and-roll to you?
625
00:32:42,961 --> 00:32:44,045
- Rock-and-roll?
- Yeah.
626
00:32:44,171 --> 00:32:47,048
Chuck Berry, you know.
627
00:32:47,174 --> 00:32:49,426
- Little Richard.
- Jason: Hm-hmm.
628
00:32:52,137 --> 00:32:55,307
- I recently watched the smile concert.
- Brian: Yeah.
629
00:32:55,432 --> 00:32:57,350
Wow, you looked really happy that night.
630
00:32:57,476 --> 00:33:00,228
- Yeah, that was fun.
- Was it hard to pull off?
631
00:33:00,353 --> 00:33:02,814
We premiered smile
and lucky old sun album,
632
00:33:02,981 --> 00:33:05,567
2004 and 2005.
633
00:33:05,692 --> 00:33:09,237
Jason: When you let it go, when you
stopped working on it in '67,
634
00:33:09,362 --> 00:33:12,574
- was that a hard thing for you?
- Yeah, it was rough, yeah.
635
00:33:12,699 --> 00:33:15,744
Me and Van dyke got so into it,
you know.
636
00:33:15,869 --> 00:33:17,245
We really got into it.
637
00:33:17,370 --> 00:33:20,081
When you premiered smile,
how did you feel?
638
00:33:20,207 --> 00:33:22,083
I mean, it must have been a big relief.
639
00:33:22,209 --> 00:33:25,504
Well, it was a big challenge
to try to pull it off, you know?
640
00:33:25,587 --> 00:33:29,341
- Right.
- But we did. It went over very well.
641
00:33:30,842 --> 00:33:33,678
J“ I've been in this town so long
that back in the city
642
00:33:33,803 --> 00:33:36,181
j“ I've been taken for lost and gone
643
00:33:36,306 --> 00:33:38,600
j“ unknown for along, long time
644
00:33:38,725 --> 00:33:40,560
j“ doo, d-doo-doo-doo
doo-doo-doo-doo
645
00:33:40,685 --> 00:33:43,647
j“ fell in love years ago
with an innocent girl
646
00:33:43,772 --> 00:33:46,274
j“ from the Spanish and Indian home
647
00:33:46,399 --> 00:33:47,559
j“ of the heroes and villains
648
00:33:47,651 --> 00:33:49,611
around 2004, Brian decided
649
00:33:49,736 --> 00:33:52,781
that he was going to come back
and work on smile,
650
00:33:52,906 --> 00:33:56,076
the, you know, most famous
unreleased album of all time,
651
00:33:56,201 --> 00:33:58,370
something that he had abandoned
around 1967,
652
00:33:58,495 --> 00:34:02,290
and I think, in retrospect,
probably wisely, because it was
653
00:34:02,415 --> 00:34:04,751
proving to be insurmountable
for all kinds of reasons.
654
00:34:04,876 --> 00:34:08,880
J“ what a dude'll do in this town
full of heroes and villains
655
00:34:09,047 --> 00:34:10,447
j“ doo-doo, she-doobie-doo-what?
656
00:34:10,549 --> 00:34:13,385
He was terrified, he didn't wanna do it,
657
00:34:15,095 --> 00:34:21,059
and then slowly, something about
the music reconnected emotionally.
658
00:34:21,184 --> 00:34:24,271
J“ fell in love years ago
with an innocent girl
659
00:34:24,396 --> 00:34:26,606
j“ from the Spanish and Indian home
660
00:34:26,731 --> 00:34:29,901
so, all those bad associations
that he had
661
00:34:30,068 --> 00:34:31,861
were being replaced with good ones.
662
00:34:31,987 --> 00:34:35,699
J“ next time I I! Leave my hat off
663
00:34:35,824 --> 00:34:38,118
and it became
more about the music again.
664
00:34:38,243 --> 00:34:41,496
J“ heroes and villains
665
00:34:41,580 --> 00:34:46,251
j“ just see what you've done
666
00:34:46,376 --> 00:34:47,419
j“ doo doo doo doo
667
00:34:47,544 --> 00:34:50,088
some of the stuff on that record
was pretty wild, on smile.
668
00:34:50,213 --> 00:34:53,008
Yeah, some of that stuff
was pretty complicated.
669
00:34:53,174 --> 00:34:54,217
- Yeah.
- Complex.
670
00:34:54,342 --> 00:34:56,469
Hm-hmm. Well, why'd you let it go?
671
00:34:56,595 --> 00:34:59,514
We thought it was
a little ahead of its time.
672
00:34:59,598 --> 00:35:02,601
- Right.
- We waited for, like, 30 years
673
00:35:02,684 --> 00:35:04,978
and we finally finished it.
674
00:35:05,145 --> 00:35:10,150
J“ la la la la, la la la la la
la la, la la la la la la...
675
00:35:10,275 --> 00:35:13,320
It became something that was living now,
676
00:35:13,445 --> 00:35:15,947
as opposed to something
that was dead in his mind.
677
00:35:16,114 --> 00:35:18,199
We're not picking up all your notes.
678
00:35:18,325 --> 00:35:20,577
You can feel it,
but you can't really hear it.
679
00:35:20,660 --> 00:35:23,163
Probyn: In fact,
we couldn't bring up that stuff.
680
00:35:23,288 --> 00:35:25,457
We couldn't even say the words
"heroes and villains".
681
00:35:25,582 --> 00:35:27,542
'Cause he would freak out.
682
00:35:28,126 --> 00:35:30,795
What now? God, there are
so many parts to this damn song.
683
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:34,215
It's endless and endless and endless!
684
00:35:34,341 --> 00:35:35,425
It never ends!
685
00:35:43,308 --> 00:35:45,060
J“ la la la la, la la...
686
00:35:45,226 --> 00:35:47,020
Bruce Springsteen:
When you listen to smile
687
00:35:47,187 --> 00:35:49,981
with that ear of hearing
how segmental it was,
688
00:35:50,148 --> 00:35:52,817
and yet how seamlessly
he put it together,
689
00:35:52,942 --> 00:35:55,236
it's quite wonderful.
690
00:35:55,362 --> 00:35:58,657
J“ there shall be peace in the valley
and it's all an affair
691
00:35:58,740 --> 00:36:02,160
j“ of my life
with the heroes and villains
692
00:36:02,285 --> 00:36:04,913
I remember sitting with him,
and I handed him the cd,
693
00:36:05,038 --> 00:36:07,457
and I said,
"Brian, that's smile, you finished it."
694
00:36:07,582 --> 00:36:09,834
You know, I could really see
it meant something to him,
695
00:36:09,959 --> 00:36:13,797
because it was a disappointment
that he'd been carrying around.
696
00:36:13,922 --> 00:36:17,926
Being able to finish it at last,
even though it was 30 years later,
697
00:36:18,051 --> 00:36:20,261
was a big moment in his life.
698
00:36:20,387 --> 00:36:22,222
J“ da-doobie-doobie-da
699
00:36:22,347 --> 00:36:26,059
j“ doobie-doobie-doo-wah...
700
00:36:31,064 --> 00:36:34,818
Do you still get ideas for
different ways to produce?
701
00:36:34,943 --> 00:36:36,820
- Who, me?
- Things, sounds, yeah.
702
00:36:36,945 --> 00:36:40,198
Well, usually, you know,
recording's a little slower these days.
703
00:36:40,323 --> 00:36:42,617
- Jason: Hm-hmm.
- You know?
704
00:36:43,243 --> 00:36:44,786
What's your process like?
705
00:36:45,286 --> 00:36:46,579
- The process?
- Yeah.
706
00:36:46,705 --> 00:36:48,039
Start with a background track.
707
00:36:48,206 --> 00:36:50,375
- Hm-hmm.
- Then you do the...
708
00:36:51,209 --> 00:36:52,877
Background vocals,
then you do the leads.
709
00:36:53,002 --> 00:36:55,964
- Ok.
- Like we'll do today.
710
00:36:58,591 --> 00:37:00,635
- Brian: Will I be on keys?
- Man: That's correct.
711
00:37:03,722 --> 00:37:07,058
What's been making you feel like
making a rock-and-roll record?
712
00:37:07,225 --> 00:37:10,311
Uh, I don't know... well, actually,
713
00:37:10,437 --> 00:37:12,689
summer days and summer nights
was a rock-and-roll album.
714
00:37:12,772 --> 00:37:15,066
- Yep.
- But I'd like to do another one
715
00:37:15,233 --> 00:37:18,862
- with covers instead of originals.
- Hm-hmm.
716
00:37:18,987 --> 00:37:22,657
Is your click ok?
717
00:37:30,373 --> 00:37:32,601
Jason: How do you feel about spending
a few days with your band?
718
00:37:32,625 --> 00:37:34,836
I think it'll be nice
to be back with 'em, you know?
719
00:37:34,961 --> 00:37:37,881
It about time we all recorded like this.
720
00:37:41,259 --> 00:37:43,386
Jason: And we are here.
721
00:37:43,511 --> 00:37:44,679
I'm nervous.
722
00:37:44,763 --> 00:37:47,766
It's like you say when you go on stage,
nervous for about two minutes.
723
00:37:47,891 --> 00:37:51,686
Right, and then as soon as I hear
"California girls“, I'm cool.
724
00:37:51,770 --> 00:37:53,170
- Drummer: One, two.
- You got this.
725
00:37:53,313 --> 00:37:54,814
Drummer: One, two, three.
726
00:37:56,775 --> 00:37:58,151
Brian: J“ doo, doo... right there.
727
00:37:58,318 --> 00:38:01,571
One, two, three...
728
00:38:01,696 --> 00:38:03,531
J“ duh-duh
729
00:38:04,908 --> 00:38:06,409
no, on the "duh."
730
00:38:06,534 --> 00:38:08,453
- Are you sure it's that?
- Yeah.
731
00:38:08,578 --> 00:38:11,039
Yeah, that's it.
732
00:38:15,418 --> 00:38:17,462
Brian: I'll play the piano.
733
00:38:17,587 --> 00:38:19,964
Yeah! Now we're talking!
734
00:38:21,090 --> 00:38:22,675
- Hi, Russ.
- How you doing, Brian?
735
00:38:22,801 --> 00:38:24,969
- I'm good, how are you?
- Doing all right.
736
00:38:39,108 --> 00:38:40,819
Hi, Tom.
737
00:38:40,944 --> 00:38:42,654
- Hi, Brian.
- How are ya?
738
00:38:42,779 --> 00:38:43,988
- Good, how are you?
- Good.
739
00:38:45,782 --> 00:38:48,827
- We need a click, Wes.
- It's coming.
740
00:38:49,661 --> 00:38:50,703
What's coming?
741
00:38:50,829 --> 00:38:52,497
- The click.
- Oh.
742
00:38:54,541 --> 00:38:56,876
Ok, it's cool. The click'll help ya!
743
00:38:57,669 --> 00:39:00,505
- Ok.
- One, two, three.
744
00:39:03,508 --> 00:39:04,508
- Paul.
- Yeah?
745
00:39:04,551 --> 00:39:06,886
It's just...
746
00:39:09,973 --> 00:39:12,559
No...
747
00:39:13,852 --> 00:39:15,603
Brian: One, two, three.
748
00:39:24,863 --> 00:39:26,447
- Hey, Paul.
- Yeah?
749
00:39:26,573 --> 00:39:29,909
- Play staccato. Bah, bah, bah.
- Ok.
750
00:39:31,870 --> 00:39:33,538
- Yeah.
- Ooh.
751
00:39:33,663 --> 00:39:35,707
One, two, three, four.
752
00:39:39,294 --> 00:39:42,630
Hold it!
The guitar sounds a little fuzzy.
753
00:39:42,755 --> 00:39:44,883
Man: See if that's better.
754
00:39:44,966 --> 00:39:47,510
Brian: Ok, one, two, three, four.
755
00:39:49,637 --> 00:39:50,889
Yeah, we're cool.
756
00:39:51,598 --> 00:39:53,391
- Let's try it once.
- Ok.
757
00:39:53,516 --> 00:39:56,561
One... two... one, two, three.
758
00:40:24,547 --> 00:40:27,050
Two, a-one, two, three, four.
759
00:40:43,149 --> 00:40:44,984
Yeah, it can fall apart, that's cool.
760
00:40:45,109 --> 00:40:46,949
- Pretty good.
- Brian: I think that's a print.
761
00:40:47,070 --> 00:40:48,738
Wanna go in, wanna go in the booth.
762
00:40:48,863 --> 00:40:51,032
Can we come in the booth and hear it?
763
00:40:51,157 --> 00:40:53,534
- Yes.
- Ok.
764
00:41:10,969 --> 00:41:12,762
Murry Wilson:
Listen, syncopate it a little.
765
00:41:12,887 --> 00:41:14,764
Yeah, what are the words?
Sing it.
766
00:41:14,889 --> 00:41:16,951
Brian: "Since you put me down,
I've been arguing in my head."
767
00:41:16,975 --> 00:41:18,518
Murry: Let me hear. Sing it, sing it.
768
00:41:18,643 --> 00:41:20,204
- J“ since you put me down...
- Murry: No.
769
00:41:20,228 --> 00:41:21,980
Murry: J“ since you put me down
770
00:41:25,191 --> 00:41:26,943
- Sing the words.
- Ok, I can't do it.
771
00:41:30,363 --> 00:41:33,783
Murry: Loosen up.
Loosen up, sweetie, loosen up.
772
00:41:33,908 --> 00:41:37,078
My dad owned
the publishing with Brian,
773
00:41:37,203 --> 00:41:39,205
and he managed the group
for ten percent.
774
00:41:39,330 --> 00:41:41,624
I just remember
there was a lot of tension,
775
00:41:41,749 --> 00:41:43,835
with my dad and Brian.
776
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:46,004
Murry: You guys think you're good?
777
00:41:46,087 --> 00:41:47,922
Can we hear a chord?
778
00:41:48,006 --> 00:41:50,091
Just a chord, like we used to.
779
00:41:50,216 --> 00:41:53,761
When you used to sing
clear records, ok? Let's go.
780
00:41:53,886 --> 00:41:57,140
His presence was very...
Where he'd burst into a room, you know?
781
00:41:57,265 --> 00:41:58,975
And beat everyone up.
782
00:41:59,058 --> 00:42:01,144
Brian: I got beaten around by my dad.
783
00:42:01,269 --> 00:42:03,021
One kinda spanking is...
784
00:42:03,104 --> 00:42:06,024
But the way I had it,
dad would double over his belt.
785
00:42:06,107 --> 00:42:08,026
His voice...
786
00:42:08,151 --> 00:42:09,318
Very, very hard.
787
00:42:09,444 --> 00:42:10,903
Pretty tough business.
788
00:42:11,029 --> 00:42:13,614
Jason:
His dad was extremely tough on him,
789
00:42:13,740 --> 00:42:15,533
abusive at times.
790
00:42:15,658 --> 00:42:18,369
You can hear this in all the old tapes
from those studio sessions
791
00:42:18,536 --> 00:42:19,936
where his dad takes it way too far.
792
00:42:19,996 --> 00:42:21,724
Brian:
We just wanna be sure this is our thing.
793
00:42:21,748 --> 00:42:24,042
Murry: This is an absolute insult.
794
00:42:24,125 --> 00:42:27,336
Brian: Well, you're doing the same to me
in front of 20 people.
795
00:42:27,462 --> 00:42:29,023
Murry:
I'm sorry, I'll never help you guys.
796
00:42:29,047 --> 00:42:30,381
Brian: Why?
797
00:42:30,548 --> 00:42:34,802
Murry: Because you don't appreciate
the good help I have given you.
798
00:42:34,927 --> 00:42:37,698
- Brian: We all appreciate the help.
- Murry: You've got a beautiful gift.
799
00:42:37,722 --> 00:42:40,200
When you guys start coming off...
Listen, let me tell you something.
800
00:42:40,224 --> 00:42:42,393
- Brian: Yes.
- Murry: When you guys get so big
801
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:44,920
that you can't sing from your hearts,
you're going downhill.
802
00:42:45,021 --> 00:42:47,440
- Brian: Downhill?
- Murry: Down... hill!
803
00:42:47,607 --> 00:42:52,070
J“ how deep is the ocean?
804
00:42:52,653 --> 00:42:57,492
J“ how deep is the ocean?
805
00:42:57,658 --> 00:43:01,079
J'ah...
806
00:43:01,204 --> 00:43:04,248
And as we got older, we told him
we didn't want him to manage us anymore.
807
00:43:04,373 --> 00:43:05,416
It's very simple.
808
00:43:05,583 --> 00:43:08,711
Brian: It got to the point where
he was so overbearing to work with,
809
00:43:08,836 --> 00:43:09,879
that we had to fire him.
810
00:43:10,004 --> 00:43:14,467
J“ I'm a rock in a landslide
811
00:43:15,218 --> 00:43:20,598
j“ rolling over the mountainside
812
00:43:20,723 --> 00:43:26,104
j“ how deep is the valley?
813
00:43:26,229 --> 00:43:30,900
J“ how deep is the valley?
814
00:43:31,025 --> 00:43:32,318
J'ah...
815
00:43:32,443 --> 00:43:35,113
J“ it kills my soul
816
00:43:35,238 --> 00:43:40,451
j“ hey, hey, hey...
817
00:43:42,537 --> 00:43:45,623
Why did you move
from Laurel way to bellagio?
818
00:43:45,748 --> 00:43:49,168
Marilyn wanted to move to bel air.
819
00:43:49,293 --> 00:43:51,087
Was it a bigger house?
820
00:43:51,170 --> 00:43:52,839
- What, bellagio?
- Yeah.
821
00:43:52,964 --> 00:43:54,882
- Much bigger.
- Much bigger, I see.
822
00:43:57,677 --> 00:44:00,471
- There's bellagio road.
- Oh, yeah.
823
00:44:00,638 --> 00:44:05,143
You wrote the directions to this house
in a song, “busy doin' nothin'."
824
00:44:05,268 --> 00:44:06,644
Right.
825
00:44:06,769 --> 00:44:08,771
What inspired you to tell people
where you live?
826
00:44:08,896 --> 00:44:11,524
I don't know. I don't know.
827
00:44:11,691 --> 00:44:13,526
J“ drive for a couple miles
828
00:44:13,693 --> 00:44:17,572
j“ you see a sign and turn left
for a couple blocks
829
00:44:17,738 --> 00:44:21,492
j“ next is mine, you'll turn left
on a little road...
830
00:44:21,659 --> 00:44:24,078
Check it out. It was right here.
831
00:44:24,162 --> 00:44:26,164
J“ you'll see a white fence...
832
00:44:26,247 --> 00:44:28,875
Jason:
Yeah, you can't see much, can you?
833
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:30,877
But that's a beautiful house back there?
834
00:44:31,002 --> 00:44:33,087
Have a swimming pool in the backyard?
835
00:44:33,171 --> 00:44:35,256
Brian:
Oh, yeah, we had that specially built.
836
00:44:35,381 --> 00:44:37,800
- Jason: Wow.
- Brian: A very big pool.
837
00:44:38,301 --> 00:44:41,596
I had, like, a den that we built
a recording studio.
838
00:44:41,762 --> 00:44:43,306
- You remember that?
- Yeah.
839
00:44:43,431 --> 00:44:47,101
It was a really state-of-the-art
studio too, I think.
840
00:44:47,185 --> 00:44:48,603
Oh, it was a fantastic studio.
841
00:44:48,769 --> 00:44:49,770
- Jason: Hm-hmm.
- Gmm.
842
00:44:52,690 --> 00:44:54,525
The mamas and the papas
came over one time.
843
00:44:54,692 --> 00:44:55,943
- Jason: Oh, really?
- Yeah.
844
00:44:56,068 --> 00:44:58,112
Did you record together?
845
00:44:58,196 --> 00:45:02,116
No, they just came over one night,
John and Michelle...
846
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:05,203
Came over one night in the 703.
847
00:45:05,286 --> 00:45:06,286
Jason: Uh-huh.
848
00:45:07,580 --> 00:45:09,248
- Little Richard came over.
- Really?
849
00:45:09,373 --> 00:45:10,499
- Yeah.
- Oh-oh!
850
00:45:10,625 --> 00:45:12,210
Sly from the family stone came over.
851
00:45:12,293 --> 00:45:14,587
What? Ok, you gotta tell me about that.
852
00:45:14,754 --> 00:45:17,215
I remember...
I just know he fell asleep on a couch.
853
00:45:19,342 --> 00:45:21,219
I think he was snortin' cocaine.
854
00:45:21,344 --> 00:45:23,804
- Jason: And he fell asleep?
- Yeah.
855
00:45:23,930 --> 00:45:27,725
Did he come over to party
or to record or just to visit?
856
00:45:27,850 --> 00:45:29,203
- Just to visit.
- What was the vibe?
857
00:45:29,227 --> 00:45:30,495
Terry melcher brought him over...
858
00:45:30,519 --> 00:45:32,313
- Ok.
- To visit.
859
00:45:32,438 --> 00:45:35,024
- Jason: Sly seemed like a cool cat.
- Who, sly?
860
00:45:35,149 --> 00:45:36,317
- Yeah.
- Yeah.
861
00:45:36,442 --> 00:45:38,236
- He was good.
- Oh, yeah.
862
00:45:38,361 --> 00:45:40,363
- "Hot fun in the summertime"?
- Oh, man.
863
00:45:40,488 --> 00:45:42,073
Heavy duty.
864
00:45:42,198 --> 00:45:43,798
Is this the house where Elton came over?
865
00:45:43,908 --> 00:45:45,243
Yeah.
866
00:45:45,368 --> 00:45:47,968
Going to Brian Wilson's house
with Danny hutton of three dog night
867
00:45:48,037 --> 00:45:50,248
was just the most amazing,
surreal trip for me.
868
00:45:50,373 --> 00:45:52,959
Here we are, in Brian Wilson's house,
869
00:45:53,084 --> 00:45:55,503
who we used to lay on the floor
and listen in our headphones
870
00:45:55,628 --> 00:45:57,213
to all his beautiful music.
871
00:45:57,296 --> 00:46:01,884
It was... one of the most
moving nights of my life
872
00:46:02,009 --> 00:46:03,678
and he tried to sell me
his piano as well.
873
00:46:05,972 --> 00:46:10,059
But to that time, he went through
such a dark period of his life.
874
00:46:10,184 --> 00:46:14,313
So, bellagio is kinda where
things got difficult for you, huh?
875
00:46:14,438 --> 00:46:16,941
- Yeah.
- What was going on?
876
00:46:17,066 --> 00:46:21,237
Uh... I was just kinda
lonesome and, you know...
877
00:46:23,406 --> 00:46:25,074
Hung out in my bedroom for a while.
878
00:46:25,199 --> 00:46:26,951
What were you staying
in your bedroom for?
879
00:46:27,076 --> 00:46:29,120
I don't really know.
I was having mental problems.
880
00:46:29,245 --> 00:46:30,663
Yeah. Yeah.
881
00:46:30,830 --> 00:46:33,457
And everyone always says,
"you stayed in your bedroom for years."
882
00:46:33,582 --> 00:46:34,667
You didn't really do that.
883
00:46:34,834 --> 00:46:37,795
- No, for a couple of weeks.
- Yeah.
884
00:46:41,716 --> 00:46:43,509
Steven page:
Sometimes you question yourself,
885
00:46:43,634 --> 00:46:46,053
and I think, especially
when you grapple with demons,
886
00:46:46,178 --> 00:46:49,056
and you think, "well, do I deserve this?
Am I worthy of this?"
887
00:46:49,181 --> 00:46:52,643
And, you know, I think about
Brian being saddled
888
00:46:52,810 --> 00:46:56,188
with... the term "genius"
889
00:46:56,314 --> 00:46:57,732
from such an early age.
890
00:46:57,898 --> 00:47:00,192
That's gotta weigh on you so much.
891
00:47:00,318 --> 00:47:03,321
J“ lost my way...
892
00:47:03,446 --> 00:47:05,406
Nick Jonas:
I think about someone like Brian,
893
00:47:05,531 --> 00:47:07,742
and coming into this
when he was becoming a man
894
00:47:07,908 --> 00:47:10,411
and really starting to make the music
895
00:47:10,536 --> 00:47:12,830
that would change the world
in a lot of ways.
896
00:47:12,955 --> 00:47:14,349
And the pressure that comes with that.
897
00:47:14,373 --> 00:47:17,626
You know, the pressure
to continue to perform at that level
898
00:47:17,752 --> 00:47:19,211
and continue to be the person
899
00:47:19,337 --> 00:47:22,506
that people think
you are supposed to be.
900
00:47:22,631 --> 00:47:24,925
You know, you deal
with a lot of disappointment.
901
00:47:25,051 --> 00:47:29,013
Expectations are the foundation
for disappointments.
902
00:47:29,138 --> 00:47:32,683
J“ when there's no morning
903
00:47:32,850 --> 00:47:36,020
j“ without you
904
00:47:36,145 --> 00:47:39,231
j“ there's only darkness
905
00:47:39,940 --> 00:47:42,651
j“ the whole day through
906
00:47:42,777 --> 00:47:44,713
Bruce Springsteen:
Most people in the music business
907
00:47:44,737 --> 00:47:47,156
are a little crazy in a variety
of different ways.
908
00:47:47,281 --> 00:47:51,202
I think you wish for the people
who delivered so much to you,
909
00:47:51,327 --> 00:47:56,040
you wish them happiness and a long life.
910
00:47:56,165 --> 00:47:59,085
You know, if you see someone
who's going through a lot of pain,
911
00:47:59,210 --> 00:48:01,962
you wish, like, hey,
nothing but good things.
912
00:48:02,088 --> 00:48:05,257
J“ all these memories
913
00:48:05,383 --> 00:48:10,054
j“ made me feel like stone
914
00:48:12,431 --> 00:48:15,351
j“ all these people
915
00:48:15,893 --> 00:48:18,646
j“ make me feel so alone...
916
00:48:18,771 --> 00:48:20,371
Taylor Hawkins: I think it's safe to say
917
00:48:20,439 --> 00:48:23,734
that creative people
are usually sensitive people.
918
00:48:23,901 --> 00:48:28,489
That door to drugs and alcohol
is an easy door to walk through.
919
00:48:28,614 --> 00:48:31,200
Linda Perry: Brian Wilson
was crying for help a long time ago.
920
00:48:31,325 --> 00:48:35,121
He put it in there,
under this happiness.
921
00:48:35,246 --> 00:48:37,581
It is like the Mona Lisa.
922
00:48:37,706 --> 00:48:40,459
His tones that he chose,
or those harmonies,
923
00:48:40,584 --> 00:48:43,212
were there on purpose.
924
00:48:43,337 --> 00:48:45,506
Was this him calling out
that "I need help"?
925
00:48:45,631 --> 00:48:50,761
J“ midnight's another day...
926
00:48:53,013 --> 00:48:54,533
Remember the song
"long promised road"?
927
00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:57,601
- Of course.
- Carl recorded it at bellagio house.
928
00:48:57,726 --> 00:48:59,395
- Jason: Uh-huh.
- Brian: At our house.
929
00:48:59,478 --> 00:49:02,064
And he had me come down
to sing part of the bridge.
930
00:49:02,189 --> 00:49:03,549
- Jason: Hm-hmm.
- Brian: So, ok...
931
00:49:03,649 --> 00:49:05,526
J“ long promised road...
And I went...
932
00:49:05,651 --> 00:49:06,944
J“ bah-bah-bah-bah...
933
00:49:07,069 --> 00:49:08,446
I wrote that part.
934
00:49:08,529 --> 00:49:10,698
You kinda came down
from your bedroom and did that
935
00:49:10,823 --> 00:49:12,700
- and then went back up?
- Yeah.
936
00:49:12,825 --> 00:49:14,160
J“ long promised road...
937
00:49:14,285 --> 00:49:15,703
J“ bah-bah-bah-bah
938
00:49:15,828 --> 00:49:17,329
j“ trail starts at dawn
939
00:49:17,455 --> 00:49:21,584
j“ carries on to the season's ending
940
00:49:22,334 --> 00:49:24,462
j“ long promised road...
941
00:49:24,587 --> 00:49:28,174
Jason: Carl and Dennis were really
different guys, weren't they?
942
00:49:28,299 --> 00:49:32,178
Yeah, Carl was a little easier-going.
Dennis was a little more hyper.
943
00:49:32,303 --> 00:49:33,303
Hm-hmm.
944
00:49:33,387 --> 00:49:36,765
Carl was like...
Easygoing kind of a person, you know?
945
00:49:36,891 --> 00:49:40,186
I was listening to
Dennis's record recently.
946
00:49:40,311 --> 00:49:41,687
- Oh, pacific ocean blue?
- Wow.
947
00:49:41,812 --> 00:49:43,147
I have never heard his album.
948
00:49:43,272 --> 00:49:44,273
- Oh, man...
- I heard...
949
00:49:44,398 --> 00:49:48,152
J“ I'll never make the headlines
or... and the evening news
950
00:49:48,277 --> 00:49:50,488
- Jason: Hm-hmm.
- I thought, gosh, I heard that one.
951
00:49:50,613 --> 00:49:51,613
Jason: Yep.
952
00:49:51,697 --> 00:49:53,908
But I think there's 11 or 12
that I haven't heard yet.
953
00:49:54,074 --> 00:49:56,154
Oh, my god, "river song"?
Did you ever hear that one?
954
00:49:57,203 --> 00:49:59,163
Let's listen to it
when we get back to your house.
955
00:49:59,288 --> 00:50:01,415
- Is it, like, pretty cool?
- It's amazing.
956
00:50:01,499 --> 00:50:04,043
- He made good music, didn't he?
- He sure did.
957
00:50:04,168 --> 00:50:07,755
The record is really spectacular.
You're gonna love it.
958
00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:09,715
I'm surprised you never heard it.
959
00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:12,801
- No, I haven't.
- After you had left Marilyn...
960
00:50:12,927 --> 00:50:14,303
Right.
961
00:50:14,428 --> 00:50:16,148
And you were living in
pacific palisades,
962
00:50:16,263 --> 00:50:18,544
that's when you were hanging out
with Dennis a lot, right?
963
00:50:18,891 --> 00:50:20,971
No, actually I was hanging out
with Dennis in venice.
964
00:50:21,060 --> 00:50:23,062
Oh, in venice, at his place?
965
00:50:23,187 --> 00:50:25,523
Yeah, he used to play drums
and I'd play organ.
966
00:50:25,606 --> 00:50:27,606
- Jason: Hm-hmm.
- We used to fool around together.
967
00:50:27,650 --> 00:50:28,817
- Jason: Hm-hmm.
- You know?
968
00:50:28,943 --> 00:50:32,196
- He was a good drummer.
- Yeah, he was.
969
00:50:32,321 --> 00:50:34,573
You were really close friends
with Dennis.
970
00:50:34,698 --> 00:50:37,243
Because we snorted cocaine together.
971
00:50:38,077 --> 00:50:41,455
- He used to buy cocaine for me.
- Hm-hmm.
972
00:50:41,539 --> 00:50:43,791
You know what he used to do?
973
00:50:43,916 --> 00:50:46,877
He carried around a big, huge bottle,
974
00:50:47,044 --> 00:50:51,298
plastic bottle of grapefruit juice
and vodka.
975
00:50:51,423 --> 00:50:52,424
Jason: Wow.
976
00:50:52,550 --> 00:50:54,301
And he would stay drunk the whole day.
977
00:50:54,426 --> 00:50:57,263
He was crazy, crazy guy.
978
00:50:57,388 --> 00:50:59,723
You think that was 'cause
he was anxious and nervous?
979
00:50:59,848 --> 00:51:03,060
Yeah, he's always been, like, a...
Little bit nervous person, you know?
980
00:51:03,185 --> 00:51:04,185
Hm-hmm.
981
00:51:04,228 --> 00:51:06,522
But he was such a sweet guy too, right?
982
00:51:06,605 --> 00:51:09,149
- Didn't he have a big heart?
- Oh, he sure did, yeah.
983
00:51:09,275 --> 00:51:11,652
- I like his song "forever“.
- Oh, yeah. Oh, my god.
984
00:51:11,777 --> 00:51:13,779
- Thought that was beautiful.
- So beautiful.
985
00:51:19,326 --> 00:51:21,078
Brian: Yeah, I miss him.
986
00:51:24,373 --> 00:51:30,004
J“ if every word I said
could make you laugh
987
00:51:30,170 --> 00:51:33,299
j“ I 'd talk forever...
988
00:51:33,424 --> 00:51:37,469
Brian's relationship with his brothers,
he loved them so much.
989
00:51:37,595 --> 00:51:41,473
J“ I ask the sky just what we had
990
00:51:41,599 --> 00:51:45,853
j“ mmm... it shone forever
991
00:51:46,812 --> 00:51:49,106
Taylor Hawkins:
Carl was just a nice, soft person,
992
00:51:49,231 --> 00:51:51,150
and he was the peacekeeper
in the family,
993
00:51:51,275 --> 00:51:53,485
and Brian was the genius, the introvert,
994
00:51:53,611 --> 00:51:56,864
and Dennis was probably
everything Brian wanted to be.
995
00:51:56,989 --> 00:52:00,117
And Brian was everything
Dennis wanted to be.
996
00:52:00,242 --> 00:52:04,204
And there in the middle you get
that beautiful tug and pull.
997
00:52:04,330 --> 00:52:06,707
Beautiful brotherly relationship.
998
00:52:06,832 --> 00:52:09,960
J“ forever...
999
00:52:10,127 --> 00:52:12,755
Dennis:
This is just his little brother talking,
1000
00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:15,924
but to see Brian on stage
and see all the people respond to Brian
1001
00:52:16,050 --> 00:52:18,427
is so ovennhelming, it's so wonderful.
1002
00:52:18,552 --> 00:52:20,596
To listen to a Brian Wilson composition,
1003
00:52:20,679 --> 00:52:23,557
the only thing stemming from
that, the roots, is the love.
1004
00:52:23,641 --> 00:52:24,683
It's love.
1005
00:52:24,808 --> 00:52:28,270
- J“ ooh...
- J“ together, my love...
1006
00:52:32,483 --> 00:52:35,986
- What you gonna have at the deli?
- Good question.
1007
00:52:36,153 --> 00:52:38,238
Possibly a Cobb salad.
1008
00:52:38,364 --> 00:52:41,533
- What about you?
- Cobb salad for me.
1009
00:52:43,410 --> 00:52:45,954
Brian: Yeah, today was fun, I liked it.
1010
00:52:49,291 --> 00:52:51,543
Jason: When you were...
When you had the radiant radish,
1011
00:52:51,669 --> 00:52:53,545
you'd actually work in the shop,
wouldn't you?
1012
00:52:53,671 --> 00:52:54,838
I worked there.
1013
00:52:55,255 --> 00:52:58,926
Jason: Did you know a lot of information
about health foods and stuff?
1014
00:52:59,051 --> 00:53:01,720
- No. A friend of mine was, though.
- Jason: Yeah.
1015
00:53:02,346 --> 00:53:03,639
Brian: I ran the cash register.
1016
00:53:03,722 --> 00:53:05,391
I learned how to do a cash register.
1017
00:53:05,516 --> 00:53:08,519
- That's fun.
- Brian: Guess who I met there.
1018
00:53:08,644 --> 00:53:09,996
- Jason: Who?
- Brian: Jack rieley.
1019
00:53:10,020 --> 00:53:12,523
Really? That's where you met him
the first time?
1020
00:53:12,648 --> 00:53:13,774
- Yeah.
- Jason: Wow.
1021
00:53:13,899 --> 00:53:16,819
And he ended up managing
the beach boys, right?
1022
00:53:17,611 --> 00:53:19,655
It was his idea to go to Holland.
1023
00:53:19,738 --> 00:53:20,864
What was that like?
1024
00:53:20,989 --> 00:53:22,866
- It was a trip.
- Jason: Hm-hmm.
1025
00:53:23,826 --> 00:53:25,911
- Holland is a great record.
- Brian: Holland?
1026
00:53:26,036 --> 00:53:27,663
- Jason: Yeah.
- Brian: Yeah.
1027
00:53:27,746 --> 00:53:29,581
It was a kick, working in Holland.
1028
00:53:29,707 --> 00:53:31,709
Jason: Hm-hmm.
You didn't wanna go at first.
1029
00:53:31,834 --> 00:53:33,252
Oh, no, I didn't wanna go.
1030
00:53:33,377 --> 00:53:35,754
Jack said, "look, Brian, it'd be
a good vacation for us all,
1031
00:53:35,879 --> 00:53:37,256
and we can record there.“
1032
00:53:37,381 --> 00:53:40,884
I said, "ok, I'll go,"
so we packed up and went.
1033
00:53:41,009 --> 00:53:42,511
Stayed there for a half a year.
1034
00:53:42,636 --> 00:53:44,763
- Jason: Wow.
- Brian: That's a long vacation.
1035
00:53:44,888 --> 00:53:49,810
- Jason: Very long.
- Six months in goddamn Holland.
1036
00:53:49,935 --> 00:53:51,478
- Whoa...
- Brian: Six months.
1037
00:53:51,603 --> 00:53:54,064
I was a little depressed, so I laid down
1038
00:53:54,231 --> 00:53:56,150
in front of the board,
you know, the console?
1039
00:53:56,316 --> 00:53:58,444
- Jason: Yeah.
- And just listened to Carl
1040
00:53:58,569 --> 00:54:00,946
produce for a couple of weeks,
1041
00:54:01,071 --> 00:54:03,866
and then,
after I got over my depression,
1042
00:54:03,991 --> 00:54:06,535
I wrote "a fairy tale“.
1043
00:54:06,660 --> 00:54:09,329
- And we did it.
- Jason: That's cool.
1044
00:54:09,455 --> 00:54:12,374
Brian: And then Carl,
he produced "a fairy tale“.
1045
00:54:12,499 --> 00:54:14,126
Jason: That's awesome.
1046
00:54:14,752 --> 00:54:17,755
I wrote it, he produced it,
and Jack rieley narrated it.
1047
00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:18,880
Wow.
1048
00:54:19,882 --> 00:54:21,341
"Funky pretty."
1049
00:54:21,467 --> 00:54:25,095
Jason: "Funky pretty" is amazing. Yeah.
1050
00:54:25,804 --> 00:54:27,806
Carl was producing a lot
at that point, right?
1051
00:54:27,931 --> 00:54:30,684
He produced his ass off,
are you kidding?
1052
00:54:30,768 --> 00:54:32,561
- Jason: Yeah.
- Yeah.
1053
00:54:32,686 --> 00:54:35,406
Jason: Must have been really cool to
see your little brother step up.
1054
00:54:35,481 --> 00:54:36,940
Well, I was proud of him.
1055
00:54:37,065 --> 00:54:38,942
- He produced "a fairy tale".
- Right.
1056
00:54:39,067 --> 00:54:42,279
He said, “Brian, I wanna produce this."
He goes, "I like these songs."
1057
00:54:42,404 --> 00:54:44,907
- I said, "go ahead, produce it."
- That's cool.
1058
00:54:45,032 --> 00:54:47,493
- It blew my mind.
- You didn't know he had it in him.
1059
00:54:47,618 --> 00:54:48,702
Oh, no, I did not.
1060
00:54:48,786 --> 00:54:52,122
You also... did you write
"sail on, sailor" there?
1061
00:54:52,289 --> 00:54:53,707
Yeah.
1062
00:54:54,124 --> 00:54:56,335
That song, man,
that's one of the greats.
1063
00:54:59,880 --> 00:55:04,134
"Sail on, sailor" is probably
one of the best songs I ever wrote.
1064
00:55:04,301 --> 00:55:06,553
- Yeah.
- Yeah.
1065
00:55:09,056 --> 00:55:12,684
When we get to my house,
would you please boot up Dennis's album?
1066
00:55:12,810 --> 00:55:15,079
Jason: Absolutely. We'll listen
to a little of the record.
1067
00:55:15,103 --> 00:55:16,939
- Ok.
- Jason: Then you can relax.
1068
00:55:17,064 --> 00:55:18,064
All right.
1069
00:55:18,148 --> 00:55:20,126
Jason: Will you give him the card?
I'm gonna hit the head.
1070
00:55:20,150 --> 00:55:21,795
- I'll be right back.
- Man: I'll take care of it.
1071
00:55:21,819 --> 00:55:23,403
- How's it going?
- It's going great.
1072
00:55:23,529 --> 00:55:25,882
- You gonna take care of this?
- Absolutely. I'm gonna get the check.
1073
00:55:25,906 --> 00:55:27,950
Ok, Brent, ok.
He's gonna take care of it.
1074
00:55:28,075 --> 00:55:30,452
Jason: All right, we scored!
1075
00:55:30,577 --> 00:55:32,663
- Jason: We scored!
- I scored a friend.
1076
00:55:32,788 --> 00:55:34,828
- Jason: Yeah, for sure.
- I haven't had a friend...
1077
00:55:34,873 --> 00:55:37,251
I haven't had a friend to talk to
in three years.
1078
00:55:37,417 --> 00:55:39,419
- Really?
- Really.
1079
00:55:39,545 --> 00:55:42,548
My life has been so simple, you know?
1080
00:55:42,673 --> 00:55:44,716
- Yeah.
- So simple and, like, modest.
1081
00:55:44,842 --> 00:55:45,884
Yeah.
1082
00:55:46,009 --> 00:55:48,804
No sitting around
and shooting the shit kinda thing.
1083
00:55:48,887 --> 00:55:50,848
I haven't had that kind of thing
since you.
1084
00:55:50,973 --> 00:55:53,851
- Well, I'm here for ya.
- Vice versa.
1085
00:55:54,142 --> 00:55:55,853
- Brian: Ok.
- Jason: Let's go.
1086
00:56:08,949 --> 00:56:10,993
That's amazing.
1087
00:56:14,079 --> 00:56:16,399
Jason: Do you remember him talking
to you about the record?
1088
00:56:16,498 --> 00:56:19,501
He came over and he played me
just the "evening news" song.
1089
00:56:19,626 --> 00:56:21,962
I never listened to his album
till right now.
1090
00:56:22,087 --> 00:56:24,006
J“ walking down
1091
00:56:24,131 --> 00:56:27,968
- all right.
- J“ by the river
1092
00:56:28,093 --> 00:56:29,428
can you make it a little louder?
1093
00:56:29,553 --> 00:56:36,852
J“ water running through my knees, ooh...
1094
00:56:36,935 --> 00:56:40,188
Taylor Hawkins: If you ask
Elvis costello or Roger Taylor
1095
00:56:40,314 --> 00:56:41,523
or Peter buck from rem,
1096
00:56:41,648 --> 00:56:43,710
I've heard all of these people
talk about this record,
1097
00:56:43,734 --> 00:56:45,986
of it being this, like, iostjewel.
1098
00:56:46,111 --> 00:56:48,280
It's a bummer
that it didn't slow him down
1099
00:56:48,447 --> 00:56:49,656
or knock some sense into him,
1100
00:56:49,781 --> 00:56:52,492
saying, "lookit, dude,
you are a great artist."
1101
00:56:54,745 --> 00:56:56,246
J“ my head's gettin' hazy...
1102
00:56:56,413 --> 00:56:58,081
Brian: All right!
1103
00:56:58,206 --> 00:57:00,268
Jason: This could be cool
for the rock-and-roll record.
1104
00:57:00,292 --> 00:57:02,044
- Yeah.
- J“ rock and roll
1105
00:57:03,545 --> 00:57:05,672
- good.
- J“ all night long...
1106
00:57:05,797 --> 00:57:08,592
Dennis was just
an impulsive hell-raising dude,
1107
00:57:08,717 --> 00:57:11,303
but had a big heart, you know?
And loved his brother.
1108
00:57:11,470 --> 00:57:15,891
- J“ gone, I'm gone - all right.
1109
00:57:15,974 --> 00:57:18,294
- Jason: Do you wanna hear one more?
- I wanna hear it all.
1110
00:57:19,686 --> 00:57:21,647
- J“ it ain't very funny - yeah.
1111
00:57:21,772 --> 00:57:23,440
J“ how you spend all my money
1112
00:57:23,565 --> 00:57:26,944
j“ I'm gone, I'm gone
1113
00:57:28,070 --> 00:57:29,655
j“ do what you wanna
1114
00:57:29,780 --> 00:57:32,950
j“ but, baby, don't you do it on me
1115
00:57:39,581 --> 00:57:42,918
J“ farewell, my friend
1116
00:57:45,963 --> 00:57:49,549
j“ my beautiful friend
1117
00:57:51,134 --> 00:57:53,845
j“ farewell...
1118
00:57:54,554 --> 00:57:57,116
This guy called me up, he goes,
"Brian, I'm sorry to tell you this,
1119
00:57:57,140 --> 00:57:59,476
but your brother Dennis
drowned tonight.“
1120
00:57:59,601 --> 00:58:02,646
I got this terrible feeling
in my chest, you know?
1121
00:58:02,771 --> 00:58:03,897
Really scared me.
1122
00:58:03,981 --> 00:58:07,567
J“ farewell, my friend...
1123
00:58:07,693 --> 00:58:11,989
I have had two losses in my family
in the last ten years,
1124
00:58:12,072 --> 00:58:13,573
and it's been hard for me.
1125
00:58:13,699 --> 00:58:15,539
The first loss was very hard,
it was my father,
1126
00:58:15,659 --> 00:58:17,536
and then of course my brother Dennis.
1127
00:58:20,706 --> 00:58:25,836
We go back about 21 years, you know,
and it's hard to lose a brother,
1128
00:58:25,961 --> 00:58:31,049
and somebody who had such
a vital, energetic thing about him.
1129
00:58:31,174 --> 00:58:33,343
I just don't want
to talk any more about it.
1130
00:58:33,510 --> 00:58:37,848
J“ oh, that's when I'll see you again
1131
00:58:40,183 --> 00:58:41,935
j“ farewell...
1132
00:58:44,146 --> 00:58:46,815
Jason: All right.
1133
00:58:46,940 --> 00:58:50,193
It's always a great day
when you can ride to Malibu.
1134
00:58:51,028 --> 00:58:54,281
Taking a peaceful to drive
to our stomping grounds.
1135
00:58:55,157 --> 00:58:58,285
Yeah, you have
lot of history in Malibu.
1136
00:58:58,410 --> 00:59:02,039
- Yeah. Nine years.
- Yeah.
1137
00:59:04,207 --> 00:59:06,001
Yeah, I served time for nine years.
1138
00:59:06,460 --> 00:59:09,880
Is it like a prison sentence?
1139
00:59:10,005 --> 00:59:12,132
Yeah, it was like...
In a way, yeah.
1140
00:59:12,257 --> 00:59:15,260
J“ ooh, ooh, ooh...
1141
00:59:17,179 --> 00:59:21,808
J“ ooh, ooh, ooh...
1142
00:59:21,933 --> 00:59:26,813
- J“ ooh, ooh, ooh...
- J“ oh, oh, oh, oh...
1143
00:59:26,938 --> 00:59:28,732
J“ ooh, ooh, ooh...
1144
00:59:28,857 --> 00:59:32,110
J“ whoa, oh, oh, oh...
1145
00:59:32,235 --> 00:59:36,073
J“ ooh, ooh...
1146
00:59:36,198 --> 00:59:39,785
I contribute. I'm a contributor.
1147
00:59:39,910 --> 00:59:42,162
- J“ ooh, ooh, ooh...
- Brian: In my personal story,
1148
00:59:42,287 --> 00:59:43,705
it really didn't work out so well.
1149
00:59:43,830 --> 00:59:46,625
I did my dose of LSD,
it shattered my mind,
1150
00:59:46,750 --> 00:59:49,086
and I, you know,
came back, thank god,
1151
00:59:49,211 --> 00:59:50,921
in I don't know how many pieces.
1152
00:59:51,046 --> 00:59:54,091
I think what happened was that
it became too painful for him.
1153
00:59:54,174 --> 00:59:55,801
I was terrified for my brother.
1154
00:59:55,926 --> 00:59:59,054
Why in the world would a man
with that kind of god-given talent
1155
00:59:59,137 --> 01:00:00,722
need any help from drugs?
1156
01:00:00,847 --> 01:00:03,433
I have been taught the difference
by my psychiatrist, thank god,
1157
01:00:03,600 --> 01:00:05,143
of a natural high and a drug high.
1158
01:00:05,268 --> 01:00:07,521
I mean, drugs are a definite balance
of heaven and hell.
1159
01:00:07,687 --> 01:00:09,689
You go to heaven,
then you go right to hell.
1160
01:00:09,815 --> 01:00:11,255
Man: What made you come back, Brian?
1161
01:00:11,316 --> 01:00:12,943
I probably came back out of will.
1162
01:00:13,068 --> 01:00:16,446
Just... my name is Wilson,
maybe that's where I got the will.
1163
01:00:17,447 --> 01:00:22,994
J“ I'm a cork on the ocean
1164
01:00:23,120 --> 01:00:26,540
j“ floating over the raging sea
1165
01:00:26,706 --> 01:00:29,084
Melinda Wilson:
They're called auditory hallucinations.
1166
01:00:29,167 --> 01:00:33,130
You're normal and then all of a sudden
you start hearing voices in your head.
1167
01:00:33,213 --> 01:00:36,258
The voices say, "I'm gonna hurt you,
I'm gonna kill you," yeah.
1168
01:00:36,383 --> 01:00:39,845
I was afraid the devil came
in the form of other people
1169
01:00:39,970 --> 01:00:41,513
that were competing with me,
1170
01:00:41,680 --> 01:00:45,976
that had ideas
of killing me and getting rid of me.
1171
01:00:46,101 --> 01:00:49,271
Everywhere I looked, I would say,
“ah! The devil's after me."
1172
01:00:50,397 --> 01:00:52,691
J“ I'm a rock in a...
1173
01:00:52,816 --> 01:00:57,696
What people have a tendency
to do that suffer with depression
1174
01:00:57,821 --> 01:01:00,365
is they use drugs and alcohol
to medicate themselves.
1175
01:01:00,490 --> 01:01:03,869
Brian: It's called nepenthe.
Numbing the soul.
1176
01:01:03,994 --> 01:01:06,830
J“ the valley
1177
01:01:06,955 --> 01:01:12,752
j“ how deep is the valley?
1178
01:01:13,170 --> 01:01:15,755
J“ it kills my soul
1179
01:01:15,881 --> 01:01:17,799
j“ hey, hey, hey
1180
01:01:17,924 --> 01:01:21,386
j“ oh...
1181
01:01:21,511 --> 01:01:25,348
Eugene landy: It! Had not taken
control, he could be dead.
1182
01:01:26,892 --> 01:01:29,519
He had a year or two to live
and he'd have died.
1183
01:01:29,686 --> 01:01:33,940
We are worried that Brian Wilson
is gonna follow Elvis.
1184
01:01:34,566 --> 01:01:36,484
Oh, god, no.
1185
01:01:37,068 --> 01:01:40,030
J'ah...
1186
01:01:43,408 --> 01:01:47,412
Melinda: We met back in 1986,
during the landy years.
1187
01:01:47,537 --> 01:01:51,208
As time went on,
he became... captive.
1188
01:01:51,333 --> 01:01:53,710
I wasn't allowed to call
my family or my friends at all
1189
01:01:53,835 --> 01:01:55,337
for nine years.
1190
01:01:55,462 --> 01:01:58,965
He doped me up with medication.
1191
01:01:59,090 --> 01:02:01,843
He kept me doped up so I couldn't resist
what he told me to do.
1192
01:02:01,968 --> 01:02:04,346
- Larry king: Why?
- Brian: He's a control freak.
1193
01:02:04,471 --> 01:02:06,514
He just gets off on controlling people.
1194
01:02:06,640 --> 01:02:08,642
J'ah...
1195
01:02:08,808 --> 01:02:12,479
J“ mmm...
1196
01:02:17,192 --> 01:02:19,569
Larry king: Was it hard to let go?
1197
01:02:20,195 --> 01:02:22,489
A little bit hard for me to let go,
yeah. It was hard.
1198
01:02:22,614 --> 01:02:25,909
When you've had a control figure
in your life for that long a period.
1199
01:02:26,034 --> 01:02:29,788
Nine years, starting from 1983 to 1992.
1200
01:02:29,913 --> 01:02:31,623
It was nine years of control.
1201
01:02:33,917 --> 01:02:38,255
J“ well, I get anxious,
I get scared a lot
1202
01:02:38,380 --> 01:02:40,173
j“ [learned to live with it
1203
01:02:40,257 --> 01:02:42,592
j'ah...
1204
01:02:42,759 --> 01:02:46,763
J“ it should get better really
any day now
1205
01:02:46,888 --> 01:02:48,932
j“ some days it really did
1206
01:02:49,057 --> 01:02:51,601
Melinda:
He's the one that's done all this.
1207
01:02:52,560 --> 01:02:57,315
He's had support, like I say.
He's had emotional security,
1208
01:02:57,440 --> 01:03:01,653
but he is the one that's pulled
himself out of the darkness,
1209
01:03:01,820 --> 01:03:03,822
back into the sunlight.
1210
01:03:10,912 --> 01:03:13,665
Jason: Dr. Landy controlled
a lot of aspects of your life.
1211
01:03:13,832 --> 01:03:16,418
- Yep.
- Was he a pretty tough taskmaster?
1212
01:03:16,543 --> 01:03:19,337
He was rough, yeah. He was rough.
1213
01:03:19,963 --> 01:03:23,133
He did things like he made me
eat spaghetti off the floor.
1214
01:03:23,258 --> 01:03:24,884
- Uh-huh.
- Crazy things, you know?
1215
01:03:25,010 --> 01:03:26,094
Why did he do that?
1216
01:03:26,219 --> 01:03:29,639
- I don't know, he just acted crazy.
- Hm-hmm.
1217
01:03:30,390 --> 01:03:34,519
He goes, "all right, I want you
to eat your spaghetti off the floor."
1218
01:03:34,644 --> 01:03:37,981
I said, "oh, man," he goes,
"I said eat your...“
1219
01:03:38,106 --> 01:03:40,442
you know, he was real mean, you know?
1220
01:03:40,567 --> 01:03:43,570
And then about two weeks,
three weeks later, he went, “hi, Brian.“
1221
01:03:43,695 --> 01:03:45,322
in a real friendly tone, you know?
1222
01:03:45,447 --> 01:03:47,115
That was really quite an experience.
1223
01:03:47,240 --> 01:03:49,451
- Jason: Kind of a mind trip.
- Yeah.
1224
01:03:49,576 --> 01:03:53,538
J“ sail on, sailor
1225
01:03:54,372 --> 01:03:55,832
j“ always needing, even...
1226
01:03:55,957 --> 01:03:58,335
Yeah, he didn't let me call my family.
1227
01:03:58,460 --> 01:04:01,463
J“ never feeding all my feelings
1228
01:04:02,339 --> 01:04:03,340
j“ damn the thunder...
1229
01:04:03,465 --> 01:04:05,717
That must have been hard.
Your daughters were growing up.
1230
01:04:05,884 --> 01:04:07,969
Oh, it was, Jason, it was.
1231
01:04:08,094 --> 01:04:14,851
J“ awake, awake, my darling
1232
01:04:17,062 --> 01:04:24,527
j“ the dawn has brought the day
1233
01:04:26,196 --> 01:04:33,244
j“ awake, awake, my darling
1234
01:04:35,747 --> 01:04:42,962
j“ you mustn't sleep your life away
1235
01:04:46,966 --> 01:04:50,720
so, do you have a hard time making sense
of the good parts and the bad parts?
1236
01:04:50,887 --> 01:04:53,306
No, I took the bad with the good
with him, you know?
1237
01:04:53,390 --> 01:04:54,557
Yeah.
1238
01:04:55,558 --> 01:04:57,977
Balancing the two together, you know?
1239
01:04:58,103 --> 01:04:59,604
Hm-hmm.
1240
01:05:04,651 --> 01:05:06,528
You know what I did for a little while?
1241
01:05:06,653 --> 01:05:09,406
- Jason: What?
- Brian: When I was, like, really fat?
1242
01:05:09,531 --> 01:05:13,451
I ate two New York steaks for breakfast
1243
01:05:13,576 --> 01:05:16,621
and a big piece of birthday cake.
1244
01:05:16,746 --> 01:05:17,914
- Really?
- Yeah.
1245
01:05:18,039 --> 01:05:19,958
Ishot up to 311.
1246
01:05:20,083 --> 01:05:23,336
- Oh, my god.
- Oh, Jason, I was so fat.
1247
01:05:24,087 --> 01:05:28,174
And when Eugene landy came into my life,
he had me weigh myself.
1248
01:05:28,299 --> 01:05:30,844
I weighed 311, and he goes,
"we're going to kona, Hawaii,
1249
01:05:31,010 --> 01:05:33,721
and you're gonna start exercising."
1250
01:05:33,847 --> 01:05:38,268
So, in about five or six months,
I goddamn lost...
1251
01:05:38,393 --> 01:05:41,604
Went from 311 to 185.
Can you believe that?
1252
01:05:41,729 --> 01:05:43,940
- Jason: Oh, man.
- Isn't that amazing?
1253
01:05:44,065 --> 01:05:46,526
Why do you think you were eating so bad?
1254
01:05:46,651 --> 01:05:48,695
Uh... I was just being stupid.
1255
01:05:48,820 --> 01:05:50,405
Jason: Uh-huh.
1256
01:05:50,488 --> 01:05:53,491
So, what was it like
when landy took you to Hawaii?
1257
01:05:53,616 --> 01:05:59,247
Well, I had to kick three main
drug habits at the same time.
1258
01:05:59,372 --> 01:06:01,583
So I spent a few nights
tossing and turning
1259
01:06:01,708 --> 01:06:04,043
and rolling in the bed,
moaning and groaning
1260
01:06:04,169 --> 01:06:06,504
and it was like a guy
kicking heroin, you know?
1261
01:06:06,629 --> 01:06:09,007
- Whoa.
- Oh, it was rough.
1262
01:06:09,132 --> 01:06:11,843
I had to kick cigarettes,
alcohol and cocaine.
1263
01:06:12,010 --> 01:06:13,052
All at once?
1264
01:06:13,178 --> 01:06:14,596
- All at once, yeah.
- Whoa.
1265
01:06:14,721 --> 01:06:17,182
That was one of the roughest trips
I ever took.
1266
01:06:17,307 --> 01:06:18,975
- Yeah.
- Which was the hardest to stop?
1267
01:06:19,642 --> 01:06:23,813
Um, the roughest
was the cigarettes.
1268
01:06:24,564 --> 01:06:25,815
Jason: He motivated you.
1269
01:06:25,982 --> 01:06:28,318
He sure did, yeah.
1270
01:06:28,818 --> 01:06:31,488
But on the bad side, he controlled you.
1271
01:06:31,571 --> 01:06:35,074
Yeah, he did.
He made money off my name, you know?
1272
01:06:35,200 --> 01:06:37,911
- Jason: Yeah.
- Yeah.
1273
01:06:38,077 --> 01:06:40,747
Andy Paley: The thing about
Eugene landy was that
1274
01:06:40,872 --> 01:06:43,833
he was supposed
to be watching Brian's diet
1275
01:06:44,000 --> 01:06:46,920
and taking care of him physically,
1276
01:06:47,086 --> 01:06:52,467
and trying to get him to lose weight
and stop living a bad lifestyle.
1277
01:06:52,550 --> 01:06:56,346
He kind of overstepped
his boundaries or something,
1278
01:06:56,471 --> 01:06:58,431
whatever boundaries
there were supposed to be,
1279
01:06:58,515 --> 01:07:01,351
and got involved in songwriting
and production and stuff like that.
1280
01:07:01,726 --> 01:07:03,436
That was kind of a real drag.
1281
01:07:03,520 --> 01:07:05,438
When people realized how bad that was,
1282
01:07:05,522 --> 01:07:07,732
I think that started the wheels
turning pretty quickly
1283
01:07:07,857 --> 01:07:09,442
to get rid of landy.
1284
01:07:10,568 --> 01:07:13,488
The day that that happened,
Brian called me,
1285
01:07:13,571 --> 01:07:16,199
and he said, “I'm free now.
I can do whatever I want.
1286
01:07:16,324 --> 01:07:17,617
What are you doing, Andy?"
1287
01:07:17,742 --> 01:07:20,370
And I said, "I'm... doing nothing,
what do you wanna do?"
1288
01:07:20,495 --> 01:07:22,080
And he said, "I wanna write songs."
1289
01:07:22,539 --> 01:07:25,041
Trying to think of what I wanna hear.
1290
01:07:26,167 --> 01:07:27,794
Play...
1291
01:07:30,088 --> 01:07:33,800
- "Long promised road"?
- Great call.
1292
01:07:36,302 --> 01:07:37,554
Here it is.
1293
01:07:38,346 --> 01:07:41,057
J“ 80 hard to laugh a childlike giggle
1294
01:07:41,182 --> 01:07:44,811
j“ when the tears start
to torture my mind
1295
01:07:45,979 --> 01:07:49,232
j“ 80 hard to shed the life of before
1296
01:07:49,357 --> 01:07:53,152
j“ to let my soul automatically soar
1297
01:07:53,278 --> 01:07:57,699
j“ but I hit hard at the battle
that's confronting me, yeah
1298
01:07:57,824 --> 01:08:01,828
j“ knock down all the roadblocks
a-stumbling me
1299
01:08:01,953 --> 01:08:04,455
j“ throw off all the shackles
that are binding me down...
1300
01:08:04,581 --> 01:08:06,749
It's a really cool track.
1301
01:08:06,874 --> 01:08:08,334
Did he write the words? Carl?
1302
01:08:08,459 --> 01:08:09,919
Yeah, Jack rieley wrote 'em.
1303
01:08:10,086 --> 01:08:12,171
- Ok.
- Yeah.
1304
01:08:12,297 --> 01:08:13,881
He died not too long ago.
1305
01:08:14,007 --> 01:08:15,592
- Jack died?
- A few years ago, yeah.
1306
01:08:15,675 --> 01:08:17,135
How do you know that?
1307
01:08:17,260 --> 01:08:20,430
Somebody that I knew
knew him, and told me that.
1308
01:08:20,555 --> 01:08:22,181
Where was he living, in Amsterdam?
1309
01:08:22,307 --> 01:08:24,368
Yeah, in Europe.
I don't know if it was in Amsterdam.
1310
01:08:24,392 --> 01:08:26,185
- He died?
- Yeah.
1311
01:08:26,311 --> 01:08:29,147
- Oh, man.
- A few years back.
1312
01:08:29,272 --> 01:08:32,609
J“ of climbing up to reality's goal
1313
01:08:32,734 --> 01:08:36,779
j“ but I hit hard at the battle
that's confronting me, yeah
1314
01:08:36,904 --> 01:08:40,408
j“ knock down all the roadblocks
a-stumbling me...
1315
01:08:40,533 --> 01:08:43,995
That's enough.
1316
01:08:51,753 --> 01:08:53,630
Jack seemed like a really fun guy.
1317
01:08:53,755 --> 01:08:56,382
Yeah. He's the one who thought
of going to Holland.
1318
01:08:56,507 --> 01:08:58,676
- Uh-huh.
- You know?
1319
01:09:03,765 --> 01:09:07,352
- What did Jack die of?
- I'm not sure.
1320
01:09:10,897 --> 01:09:12,899
Was he older than you?
1321
01:09:13,024 --> 01:09:14,901
Uh, I think he was
about the same age as me.
1322
01:09:20,865 --> 01:09:23,284
Would you play, um...
1323
01:09:29,248 --> 01:09:31,000
"It's ok." By the beach boys?
1324
01:09:31,167 --> 01:09:34,379
- Heck, yeah.
- On... 15 big ones.
1325
01:09:34,504 --> 01:09:36,839
J“ time again to shed the load
1326
01:09:36,964 --> 01:09:40,385
j“ hit the road, on the run again
1327
01:09:40,510 --> 01:09:43,638
j“ summer skies in our eyes
and a warmer sun
1328
01:09:43,721 --> 01:09:48,685
j“ it's one for all, all for one,
all for all-out fun
1329
01:09:49,394 --> 01:09:53,481
j“ gotta go to it
1330
01:09:53,606 --> 01:09:57,443
j“ gotta go through it
1331
01:09:57,568 --> 01:10:00,196
j“ gotta get with it
1332
01:10:00,321 --> 01:10:03,116
- really cool line.
- Yeah.
1333
01:10:04,492 --> 01:10:07,829
J“ in the sum-sum-summertime
1334
01:10:08,413 --> 01:10:10,540
j“ in the sum-sum-summertime...
1335
01:10:10,665 --> 01:10:12,792
That broke my heart
when I heard Jack rieley died.
1336
01:10:12,917 --> 01:10:15,086
Jason: Oh, man, I'm sorry to be
the bearer of bad news.
1337
01:10:15,253 --> 01:10:18,256
Absolutely... absolutely broke my heart.
1338
01:10:22,093 --> 01:10:25,138
- About three years ago?
- I think so, yeah, maybe more.
1339
01:10:25,304 --> 01:10:28,099
J“ in the sum-sum-summertime
1340
01:10:28,266 --> 01:10:29,684
j“ in the sum-sum-summertime...
1341
01:10:29,767 --> 01:10:33,855
- Any other ones you wanna hear?
- Yeah.
1342
01:10:34,355 --> 01:10:35,857
Play...
1343
01:10:38,985 --> 01:10:40,278
Don't play anything.
1344
01:10:40,403 --> 01:10:41,696
- I've heard enough today.
- Ok.
1345
01:10:50,955 --> 01:10:55,001
J“ I was sittin' in this crummy movie
1346
01:10:55,126 --> 01:10:58,546
j“ with my hands upon my chin
1347
01:11:01,090 --> 01:11:04,427
j“ oh, the violence that sometimes occurs
1348
01:11:04,552 --> 01:11:07,555
j“ seems like we never win
1349
01:11:11,726 --> 01:11:17,315
j“ love and mercy,
that's what you need tonight
1350
01:11:20,860 --> 01:11:23,321
j“ 80 love and mercy...
1351
01:11:30,787 --> 01:11:36,375
J“ I was lying in my room
and the news comes on TV
1352
01:11:36,501 --> 01:11:39,712
j“ nah, nah, nah...
1353
01:11:39,796 --> 01:11:42,596
Elton John: You've gotta be tough
to go through what he's been through,
1354
01:11:42,715 --> 01:11:45,885
personally and musically,
and with his family,
1355
01:11:46,010 --> 01:11:47,386
and stuff with his dad.
1356
01:11:47,512 --> 01:11:49,138
You've gotta be tough to survive that.
1357
01:11:49,305 --> 01:11:51,349
J“ nah, nah...
1358
01:11:51,474 --> 01:11:57,396
J“ love and mercy,
that's what you need tonight
1359
01:11:57,522 --> 01:12:00,399
j“ ooh, ooh...
1360
01:12:00,525 --> 01:12:06,989
J“ 80 love and mercy to you
and your friends tonight...
1361
01:12:07,114 --> 01:12:09,450
Taylor Hawkins:
The odds were not on Brian,
1362
01:12:09,575 --> 01:12:16,415
but the fact that he is still here
and performing and making music,
1363
01:12:16,541 --> 01:12:19,168
that's a miracle, kind of, isn't it?
Really, it is.
1364
01:12:19,335 --> 01:12:20,711
I wonder if he sees it that way.
1365
01:12:20,837 --> 01:12:26,843
J“ 80 love and mercy to you
and your friends tonight
1366
01:12:26,968 --> 01:12:29,262
j“ ooh, ooh, ooh...
1367
01:12:29,428 --> 01:12:32,265
J“ love and mercy tonight
1368
01:12:38,437 --> 01:12:41,566
- Here's your old spot.
- Moonshadows.
1369
01:12:43,276 --> 01:12:45,736
Good.
I think they have a dance floor there.
1370
01:12:45,862 --> 01:12:48,072
Had a couple glasses of wine,
1371
01:12:48,197 --> 01:12:49,866
feel good, then I went and danced.
1372
01:12:49,949 --> 01:12:52,243
- Right.
- For a little while.
1373
01:12:52,410 --> 01:12:53,995
I never knew you were a big dancer.
1374
01:12:54,120 --> 01:12:56,455
I can't dance very good, Jason.
1375
01:12:59,292 --> 01:13:03,588
Jason: You did... I saw that you did
a lot of dancing at your wedding.
1376
01:13:03,713 --> 01:13:04,881
Brian: Yeah.
1377
01:13:05,882 --> 01:13:07,550
Jason: When the spirit moves you?
1378
01:13:07,675 --> 01:13:09,760
Yeah.
1379
01:13:09,886 --> 01:13:12,889
Tell me the story of when you
and Melinda decided to get married.
1380
01:13:14,307 --> 01:13:17,518
- We were staying in a house on Ferrari.
- Uh-huh.
1381
01:13:17,643 --> 01:13:19,937
And she goes, "aren't you going to
ask me to get married?"
1382
01:13:20,062 --> 01:13:22,148
I said, "yeah." She goes, "yeah!"
1383
01:13:23,691 --> 01:13:26,235
I said, "would you marry me?"
She goes, "yeah!"
1384
01:13:28,029 --> 01:13:29,739
You must have been pretty excited.
1385
01:13:29,864 --> 01:13:31,657
Yeah, we got married in palos verdes.
1386
01:13:31,782 --> 01:13:34,952
- Jason: Hm-hmm.
- 1995.
1387
01:13:35,077 --> 01:13:36,871
- Minister: To speak...
- Brian: To speak...
1388
01:13:36,954 --> 01:13:39,206
- And to listen.
- And to listen.
1389
01:13:39,332 --> 01:13:41,626
- To inspire...
- To inspire...
1390
01:13:41,751 --> 01:13:44,253
- And to respond.
- And what?
1391
01:13:44,420 --> 01:13:45,630
And to respond.
1392
01:13:45,755 --> 01:13:47,048
And to respond.
1393
01:13:47,173 --> 01:13:49,050
J“ that you noticed me
1394
01:13:49,175 --> 01:13:54,013
j“ and brought back Harmony
to this lonely soul
1395
01:13:55,556 --> 01:13:58,684
j“ oh, it's a revelation...
1396
01:13:58,809 --> 01:14:01,520
To Brian and Melinda.
1397
01:14:01,646 --> 01:14:03,648
J“ I feel alive again
1398
01:14:04,565 --> 01:14:10,321
j“ there are no limitations with love...
1399
01:14:11,948 --> 01:14:14,742
Jason: When did you guys
decide to have kids?
1400
01:14:14,867 --> 01:14:17,078
- We adopted.
- Yeah.
1401
01:14:17,203 --> 01:14:19,789
19... 98.
1402
01:14:19,914 --> 01:14:22,291
That must have been a big deal,
adopting new kids.
1403
01:14:22,458 --> 01:14:23,834
Yeah, that was a trip.
1404
01:14:24,919 --> 01:14:28,798
J“ must be a miracle
1405
01:14:29,465 --> 01:14:32,635
- j“ must be a miracle...
- One, two, three, swing.
1406
01:14:32,760 --> 01:14:38,474
- One, two, three, swing.
- J“ maybe this miracle's for me
1407
01:14:38,599 --> 01:14:41,310
Brian: Those kids are, like,
very creative and playful.
1408
01:14:41,477 --> 01:14:44,647
I learned love from them,
the way they express love.
1409
01:14:44,772 --> 01:14:48,484
Yeah, it's inspiring,
it really is, yeah.
1410
01:14:48,609 --> 01:14:52,488
J“ have you ever seen
1411
01:14:53,364 --> 01:14:57,576
j“ blue eyes and long black hair?
1412
01:14:57,994 --> 01:15:04,125
J“ poetry in motion,
she's the dream of every guy...
1413
01:15:04,250 --> 01:15:06,490
Elton John: I don't think
there would've been a third act
1414
01:15:06,585 --> 01:15:08,897
if it hadn't have been for Melinda.
Brian found his salvation.
1415
01:15:08,921 --> 01:15:10,649
He went through
such a dark period of his life.
1416
01:15:10,673 --> 01:15:12,425
And whenever I see them,
they're just like
1417
01:15:12,591 --> 01:15:15,302
a very happy, ordinary
married couple with children.
1418
01:15:15,970 --> 01:15:17,638
He loves her, she loves him.
1419
01:15:17,763 --> 01:15:19,890
Again, he's not a person
to live a lavish lifestyle.
1420
01:15:20,016 --> 01:15:23,644
He's just a California boy that likes to
make music and be with his family.
1421
01:15:23,769 --> 01:15:25,688
J“ miracle
1422
01:15:26,313 --> 01:15:28,733
he doesn't deserve just
the accolades about the music.
1423
01:15:28,858 --> 01:15:32,028
He deserves the accolades
about his personal life.
1424
01:15:48,919 --> 01:15:51,672
Do you remember the day
you came to trancas
1425
01:15:51,797 --> 01:15:55,426
- to your birthday party?
- Yeah, McCartney was there.
1426
01:15:57,178 --> 01:15:58,471
And his wife, Linda...
1427
01:15:58,637 --> 01:16:00,723
- Jason: Uh-huh.
- Was there.
1428
01:16:00,848 --> 01:16:02,600
And it was a really cool house.
1429
01:16:04,435 --> 01:16:06,479
Jason: It's amazing.
You did so much that day.
1430
01:16:06,645 --> 01:16:08,064
It was your birthday party,
1431
01:16:08,147 --> 01:16:10,483
you filmed that rolling stone cover,
1432
01:16:10,649 --> 01:16:12,860
and you did that skit
for Saturday night live,
1433
01:16:12,985 --> 01:16:14,111
all on the same day.
1434
01:16:14,236 --> 01:16:16,447
- Let's go surfin' now.
- Everybody's iearnin' how.
1435
01:16:16,614 --> 01:16:18,074
Both: Come on a safari with us.
1436
01:16:18,199 --> 01:16:19,366
- Come on.
- Let's go.
1437
01:16:19,492 --> 01:16:20,493
Brian: Right.
1438
01:16:23,204 --> 01:16:25,498
How does it make you feel
to hear these songs?
1439
01:16:25,664 --> 01:16:28,459
Oh, wonderful. A great feel.
1440
01:16:29,210 --> 01:16:31,796
Oh, I'm so proud of Carl, again, man.
1441
01:16:31,921 --> 01:16:36,217
When did you first know that Carl
could sing leads so well like that?
1442
01:16:36,342 --> 01:16:41,305
Brian: Well, 1965 or 6.
1443
01:16:41,430 --> 01:16:43,933
Jason: When he sang "god only knows“,
you must have known,
1444
01:16:44,058 --> 01:16:47,269
“my gosh, he's really stepped up."
1445
01:16:47,978 --> 01:16:49,230
Well, I was gonna do the vocal,
1446
01:16:49,355 --> 01:16:51,774
and I said, “Carl,
do you wanna do the vocal?“
1447
01:16:51,899 --> 01:16:55,069
he goes, "sure, I'd love to, “
you know? So he did the vocal.
1448
01:16:55,694 --> 01:16:58,322
- Jason: And he killed it.
- Yeah, he did.
1449
01:16:58,447 --> 01:17:02,118
J“ I may not always love you
1450
01:17:02,201 --> 01:17:06,038
j“ but long as there are stars above you
1451
01:17:06,122 --> 01:17:09,708
j“ you'll never need to doubt it
1452
01:17:09,834 --> 01:17:13,754
j“ I'll make you so sure about it
1453
01:17:13,879 --> 01:17:18,551
j“ god only knows what I'd be without you
1454
01:17:21,804 --> 01:17:25,474
j“ if you should ever leave me
1455
01:17:25,641 --> 01:17:28,936
j“ well, life would still go on,
believe me
1456
01:17:29,645 --> 01:17:32,857
j“ the world could show nothing to me
1457
01:17:33,691 --> 01:17:37,069
j“ 80 what good would living do me?
1458
01:17:38,070 --> 01:17:42,283
J“ god only knows
what I'd be without you
1459
01:17:50,749 --> 01:17:52,960
Brian: I saw him
about a week before he died,
1460
01:17:53,085 --> 01:17:56,380
and he goes, "I'm gonna make it, Brian,
I'm gonna make it through.“
1461
01:17:56,505 --> 01:17:59,842
- and he died a couple of weeks later.
- Oh.
1462
01:17:59,967 --> 01:18:01,567
Brian: It's emotionally hard to sing it.
1463
01:18:01,719 --> 01:18:04,054
- It feels good to sing, though.
- Jason: Hm-hmm.
1464
01:18:04,180 --> 01:18:06,182
Brian:
When I sing it, I think about him.
1465
01:18:06,307 --> 01:18:08,517
"God only knows" gets
a standing ovation every time.
1466
01:18:08,684 --> 01:18:12,229
J“ god only knows
what I'd be without you
1467
01:18:12,354 --> 01:18:13,814
j“ god only knows
1468
01:18:13,939 --> 01:18:16,400
- j“ what I'd be without you
- j“ god only knows
1469
01:18:16,525 --> 01:18:18,485
j“ god only knows
1470
01:18:18,611 --> 01:18:22,990
j“ god only knows
1471
01:18:24,200 --> 01:18:26,202
thank you, ladies and gentlemen!
1472
01:18:28,495 --> 01:18:30,789
Please be seated. Thank you very much.
1473
01:18:33,751 --> 01:18:36,712
J“ 80 hard to answer future's riddle
1474
01:18:36,837 --> 01:18:40,341
j“ when ahead is seeming so far behind
1475
01:18:41,800 --> 01:18:44,595
j“ 80 hard to laugh
a childlike giggle...
1476
01:18:44,762 --> 01:18:47,306
Yeah, there it is.
1477
01:18:49,642 --> 01:18:52,645
J“ 80 hard to shed the life of before
1478
01:18:52,811 --> 01:18:56,857
j“ to let my soul automatically soar
1479
01:18:56,982 --> 01:19:01,403
j“ but I hit hard at the battle
that's confronting me, yeah
1480
01:19:01,528 --> 01:19:05,199
j“ knock down all the roadblocks
a-stumbling me
1481
01:19:05,282 --> 01:19:10,579
j“ throw off all the shackles
that are binding me down...
1482
01:19:12,289 --> 01:19:13,289
Right here.
1483
01:19:13,332 --> 01:19:15,042
J“ 80 hard to laugh...
1484
01:19:15,167 --> 01:19:17,253
I'm not gonna get out of the car.
1485
01:19:17,336 --> 01:19:19,171
- You sure?
- Yeah.
1486
01:19:20,339 --> 01:19:24,510
- I'm gonna get out, ok? Check it out.
- I'm just gonna wait.
1487
01:19:24,635 --> 01:19:26,470
Too sentimental for me to go.
1488
01:19:26,595 --> 01:19:28,514
All right, I'll tell 'em.
1489
01:19:30,432 --> 01:19:32,768
- Want the music on?
- Yeah.
1490
01:19:32,893 --> 01:19:36,397
J“ knock down all the roadblocks
a-stumbling me
1491
01:19:36,522 --> 01:19:41,568
j“ throw off all the shackles
that are binding me down
1492
01:19:44,405 --> 01:19:47,283
j“ sew up the wounds of evolution
1493
01:19:47,408 --> 01:19:51,245
j“ and the now starts to get in my way
1494
01:19:52,454 --> 01:19:54,248
j“ 80 what if life's...
1495
01:19:54,331 --> 01:19:55,958
Carl: I asked Brian one time,
1496
01:19:56,083 --> 01:19:59,586
“why do you think we succeeded
in such a big way?"
1497
01:19:59,712 --> 01:20:03,882
He said, "well, I think the music
celebrated the joy of life
1498
01:20:04,008 --> 01:20:05,801
in a real, simple way.“
1499
01:20:05,926 --> 01:20:08,053
- j“ promised road...
- J“ bah-bah, bah-bah...
1500
01:20:08,178 --> 01:20:12,599
Not heady or complex or anything.
1501
01:20:12,725 --> 01:20:16,478
Just a real direct experience
of just joyfulness.
1502
01:20:19,898 --> 01:20:23,736
- J“ long promised road
- j“ bah-bah, bah-bah...
1503
01:20:23,902 --> 01:20:29,325
J“ flows to the source,
gentle force, never ending
1504
01:20:30,617 --> 01:20:33,454
j“ never ending
1505
01:20:36,623 --> 01:20:38,500
- Too much on that one, huh?
- Yeah.
1506
01:20:46,675 --> 01:20:48,218
Yeah.
1507
01:20:53,766 --> 01:20:56,894
J“ I had this dream
1508
01:20:57,936 --> 01:21:01,982
j“ singing with my brothers
1509
01:21:02,107 --> 01:21:04,568
j“ in Harmony
1510
01:21:04,693 --> 01:21:06,362
j“ ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh...
1511
01:21:06,445 --> 01:21:09,656
J“ supporting each other
1512
01:21:10,866 --> 01:21:12,493
j“ tail winds
1513
01:21:12,618 --> 01:21:14,661
j“ wheels spin
1514
01:21:14,787 --> 01:21:18,374
j“ down the pacific coast
1515
01:21:19,249 --> 01:21:22,628
j“ surfin' on the am.
1516
01:21:23,379 --> 01:21:27,091
J“ heard those voices again in
1517
01:21:27,216 --> 01:21:31,762
j“ southern California
1518
01:21:31,929 --> 01:21:35,724
j“ dreams wake up for ya
1519
01:21:35,891 --> 01:21:40,020
j“ and when you wake up here
1520
01:21:40,145 --> 01:21:43,732
j“ you wake up everywhere
1521
01:21:43,899 --> 01:21:47,611
j“ oh, whoa, it's magical...
1522
01:21:47,736 --> 01:21:49,405
I wanna take this opportunity right now
1523
01:21:49,488 --> 01:21:53,617
to thank our beloved Brian
for writing all that beautiful music
1524
01:21:53,742 --> 01:21:55,452
and making this evening possible.
1525
01:21:55,577 --> 01:21:59,998
Let's hear it for Brian Wilson.
1526
01:22:00,124 --> 01:22:02,793
J“ ooh
1527
01:22:02,960 --> 01:22:06,130
j“ ooh...
1528
01:22:13,470 --> 01:22:15,055
- “It's ok"?
- Sure.
1529
01:22:15,180 --> 01:22:18,350
J“ it's ok... want me to play piano?
1530
01:22:18,434 --> 01:22:20,269
- Love it, yeah.
- Ok.
1531
01:22:20,394 --> 01:22:22,479
Brian: It starts out one, two, three.
1532
01:22:22,604 --> 01:22:24,690
J" it's ok...
1533
01:22:26,608 --> 01:22:28,527
Ok, ok.
1534
01:22:28,652 --> 01:22:31,447
It fades in about eight, ten bars.
1535
01:22:31,530 --> 01:22:32,698
Man: Got it.
1536
01:22:32,823 --> 01:22:35,409
I'm just gonna prepare myself
mentally for the vocals.
1537
01:22:35,492 --> 01:22:36,535
- For some vocals?
- Yeah.
1538
01:22:36,660 --> 01:22:38,871
Good. You want me to scratch
your back or rub your back?
1539
01:22:39,037 --> 01:22:40,372
Sure.
1540
01:22:40,456 --> 01:22:43,459
Drummer: One, two, one, two, three...
1541
01:22:43,584 --> 01:22:47,337
J“ fun is in, it's no sin,
it's that time again
1542
01:22:47,463 --> 01:22:51,508
j“ to shed the load,
hit the road, on the run again
1543
01:22:51,633 --> 01:22:55,387
j“ summer skies in our eyes
and a warmer sun
1544
01:22:55,471 --> 01:23:00,267
j“ it's one for all, all for one,
all for all-out fun
1545
01:23:00,392 --> 01:23:04,354
- j“ gotta go to it - j“ yeah
1546
01:23:04,480 --> 01:23:08,233
- j“ gonna go through it
- j“ yeah
1547
01:23:08,358 --> 01:23:11,904
j“ gotta get with it
1548
01:23:12,070 --> 01:23:14,781
j“ lookin' good down the hood
of a funky ride...
1549
01:23:14,907 --> 01:23:17,760
Jakob Dylan: It's a gift for all of us
to have someone like Brian or those guys
1550
01:23:17,784 --> 01:23:19,495
who still love music
and wanna play music.
1551
01:23:19,620 --> 01:23:22,265
It's a gift to everybody because he
certainly doesn't have to do that.
1552
01:23:22,289 --> 01:23:24,517
Elton John: Brian will always
want to go out and perform.
1553
01:23:24,541 --> 01:23:26,043
He will always want to make records.
1554
01:23:26,168 --> 01:23:28,170
It's 'cause music
runs through his veins.
1555
01:23:28,295 --> 01:23:32,174
- J“ gotta go through it
- j“ yeah
1556
01:23:32,299 --> 01:23:33,800
Linda Perry: I don't see age.
1557
01:23:33,926 --> 01:23:39,056
I see fucking history
and continuing to make history.
1558
01:23:40,015 --> 01:23:41,934
Blondie chaplin:
I think he's enjoying himself.
1559
01:23:42,100 --> 01:23:45,521
He wants to go on the road
and he wants to keep going, so...
1560
01:23:45,646 --> 01:23:47,356
I can't argue with that.
1561
01:23:47,481 --> 01:23:51,026
J“ good or bad, glad or sad,
it's all gonna pass
1562
01:23:51,151 --> 01:23:55,697
j“ 80 it's ok, let's all play
and enjoy while it lasts
1563
01:23:55,822 --> 01:24:00,077
- j“ gotta go to it - j“ yeah
1564
01:24:00,202 --> 01:24:03,580
Jason: In the last two years,
you've toured, like, 180 dates.
1565
01:24:03,705 --> 01:24:06,917
It's more than you've ever played
at any time in your career.
1566
01:24:07,084 --> 01:24:09,103
- We toured the world.
- You gotta be proud of that.
1567
01:24:09,127 --> 01:24:10,128
Lotta concerts.
1568
01:24:10,254 --> 01:24:12,756
J“ we're always in my car
'cause it's never been beat
1569
01:24:12,881 --> 01:24:15,968
j“ and we've never missed yet
with the girls we meet
1570
01:24:19,137 --> 01:24:22,349
j“ none of the guys go steady
'cause it wouldn't be right
1571
01:24:22,474 --> 01:24:25,727
j“ to leave your best girl home
on a Saturday night
1572
01:24:25,852 --> 01:24:28,248
Steven page: I've been in a concert
with him, and he did a song
1573
01:24:28,272 --> 01:24:29,666
that I thought I would never hear live,
1574
01:24:29,690 --> 01:24:31,692
and he opened his mouth
and just went...
1575
01:24:31,817 --> 01:24:34,653
Brian's provided that for me many times,
1576
01:24:34,778 --> 01:24:36,905
and not only
has he provided that for me,
1577
01:24:37,072 --> 01:24:38,782
he must get that every day in concert.
1578
01:24:38,907 --> 01:24:40,784
I didn't know what to expect
from Brian's show.
1579
01:24:40,909 --> 01:24:44,288
Trying to pet sounds live, you know,
it's like, what could be harder,
1580
01:24:44,413 --> 01:24:45,747
but we could not believe it.
1581
01:24:45,872 --> 01:24:47,457
- J“ I get around - j“ yeah
1582
01:24:47,583 --> 01:24:50,627
j“ get around, round, round,
I get around
1583
01:24:50,752 --> 01:24:52,952
Bruce Springsteen: If somebody
was making a bet with me,
1584
01:24:53,005 --> 01:24:56,508
I would have bet that they had tapes
rolling along with what they were doing,
1585
01:24:56,592 --> 01:24:58,969
but at the end of the day,
they simply learned
1586
01:24:59,136 --> 01:25:01,972
how to sing
and recreate that music live,
1587
01:25:02,139 --> 01:25:04,182
and it made me so happy
1588
01:25:04,308 --> 01:25:07,144
to see what he created
honored in that way.
1589
01:25:07,269 --> 01:25:09,229
This has been taken seriously,
1590
01:25:09,354 --> 01:25:12,482
and everybody on that stage
loves this guy
1591
01:25:12,608 --> 01:25:13,984
and loves this music.
1592
01:25:14,151 --> 01:25:16,612
J“ get around, round, round, I get around
1593
01:25:16,695 --> 01:25:19,364
- j“ I get around!
- Yeah!
1594
01:25:24,911 --> 01:25:26,455
Thank you, ladies and gentlemen!
1595
01:25:26,580 --> 01:25:28,373
Jason: I think everyone
has issues, you know,
1596
01:25:28,498 --> 01:25:30,375
whether it's mental health
or anything else,
1597
01:25:30,500 --> 01:25:33,920
and the fact that Brian is vulnerable
enough and real enough...
1598
01:25:34,046 --> 01:25:37,257
- Thank you very much.
- To get up there and do this,
1599
01:25:37,382 --> 01:25:40,177
I think gives people a lot of strength.
1600
01:25:40,636 --> 01:25:43,138
I know it gives me a lot of strength.
1601
01:25:43,263 --> 01:25:45,432
J'ah...
1602
01:25:45,557 --> 01:25:49,478
J“ well, I get anxious,
I get scared a lot
1603
01:25:49,603 --> 01:25:52,648
- j“ that's what I live with...
- Don was: I love him.
1604
01:25:52,773 --> 01:25:55,567
I think he's a beautiful, sweet guy.
1605
01:25:55,651 --> 01:25:58,779
There is a real innocence and optimism
1606
01:25:58,904 --> 01:26:02,491
and positivity and goodness,
that's what's at his core.
1607
01:26:02,616 --> 01:26:06,662
J“ they said go out and get a steady job
1608
01:26:06,745 --> 01:26:10,082
j“ that was the worst idea
1609
01:26:11,041 --> 01:26:14,920
j“ another day, another lonely song
1610
01:26:15,045 --> 01:26:18,590
j“ to get me through again
1611
01:26:18,674 --> 01:26:20,842
Bruce Springsteen:
The funny thing about those songs
1612
01:26:20,967 --> 01:26:25,347
is they're both more joyful
and more painful now
1613
01:26:25,472 --> 01:26:30,018
because of the loss of your own youth,
your own adolescence,
1614
01:26:30,185 --> 01:26:33,480
and yet at the same time,
it does speak to your current life,
1615
01:26:33,605 --> 01:26:36,858
which is the hallmark
of great and lasting music.
1616
01:26:38,735 --> 01:26:41,905
J“ oh, oh, yeah, yeah
1617
01:26:42,030 --> 01:26:44,282
you know, it's like
there's some secret code
1618
01:26:44,408 --> 01:26:46,868
that makes Brian's music resonate
1619
01:26:46,993 --> 01:26:50,205
the same as this feather
or a piece of grass
1620
01:26:50,330 --> 01:26:51,790
or a leaf or air or water.
1621
01:26:51,915 --> 01:26:53,750
There's something about it that we need.
1622
01:26:53,875 --> 01:26:55,711
You hear his music
and you need it to live.
1623
01:26:55,836 --> 01:26:58,672
You know, it's like an essential
element of your life.
1624
01:26:58,755 --> 01:27:00,235
I don't think there are words for it.
1625
01:27:00,298 --> 01:27:03,552
J“ to be the greatest at the centerfield
1626
01:27:03,677 --> 01:27:07,514
j“ that the Yankees ever seen
1627
01:27:08,724 --> 01:27:12,811
j“ was my ambition
but I got sidetracked
1628
01:27:12,936 --> 01:27:16,732
j“ into the music scene
1629
01:27:18,108 --> 01:27:19,508
Nick Jonas: There's very few people
1630
01:27:19,609 --> 01:27:22,988
that continue to make
the kind of impact he's made,
1631
01:27:23,113 --> 01:27:24,873
and having gone through
all he's gone through
1632
01:27:24,906 --> 01:27:27,260
and coming out the other side,
it's really kind of incredible,
1633
01:27:27,284 --> 01:27:28,744
and, again, so rare.
1634
01:27:28,869 --> 01:27:33,749
I think there's a misconception
of what real artists are,
1635
01:27:33,874 --> 01:27:36,752
and the ones
that are watching the clock.
1636
01:27:36,877 --> 01:27:39,755
Those are the people
that don't belong here.
1637
01:27:39,838 --> 01:27:42,132
It's the ones that just keep going.
1638
01:27:42,299 --> 01:27:46,178
It's Brian Wilson, that wants to
still beat "god only knows".
1639
01:27:46,344 --> 01:27:48,430
I mean, can you imagine that?
1640
01:27:49,097 --> 01:27:52,768
Two, a one, two, three, four... no!
1641
01:27:52,893 --> 01:27:54,770
Someone's coming in too soon.
1642
01:27:55,812 --> 01:28:02,027
J“ I know that love
is what I really wanna share
1643
01:28:03,487 --> 01:28:06,198
man: I can remember
almost word for word a quote
1644
01:28:06,364 --> 01:28:09,367
that Brian Wilson,
more than anybody else,
1645
01:28:09,493 --> 01:28:12,037
has had a profound effect
over American rock music
1646
01:28:12,162 --> 01:28:13,663
for the next 30 years.
1647
01:28:13,789 --> 01:28:16,082
You can hear it...
Your influence is everywhere, Brian.
1648
01:28:16,208 --> 01:28:19,836
I mean, do you feel
that's a strong responsibility?
1649
01:28:20,504 --> 01:28:22,839
Brian: Yes, I do, sure, because...
1650
01:28:22,964 --> 01:28:25,675
Once you've established yourself as...
1651
01:28:25,801 --> 01:28:30,931
An artist, producer, somebody
who has something to say,
1652
01:28:31,056 --> 01:28:33,934
it's an artist's obligation.
1653
01:28:34,059 --> 01:28:36,603
It's constructive work,
you know, it's work.
1654
01:28:36,728 --> 01:28:39,815
Any artist that you find
has that feeling.
1655
01:28:39,940 --> 01:28:44,194
He feels the need to please, you know?
1656
01:28:44,361 --> 01:28:45,987
And it's a very personal thing,
1657
01:28:46,112 --> 01:28:48,615
and it's something that comes with...
It's natural, you know?
1658
01:28:48,740 --> 01:28:50,700
It's a natural thing.
1659
01:28:50,826 --> 01:28:53,078
Elton John: When I hear his music,
it makes me smile.
1660
01:28:53,203 --> 01:28:56,790
It makes me realize that there's
a lot of songs still left in me.
1661
01:28:56,873 --> 01:28:58,708
There's still a lot of songs
left in Brian.
1662
01:28:58,834 --> 01:29:00,836
He's always writing,
he's always making music.
1663
01:29:00,919 --> 01:29:04,214
And I have that love of him
that will never ever die.
1664
01:29:04,881 --> 01:29:08,969
J“ it's up to me to make the music call
1665
01:29:09,094 --> 01:29:11,096
j“ to ride the wave again
1666
01:29:11,221 --> 01:29:14,432
j“ ah... ah, oh
1667
01:29:35,537 --> 01:29:38,123
J“ long promised road
1668
01:29:38,248 --> 01:29:43,169
j“ trail starts at dawn,
carries on to the season's ending
1669
01:29:45,380 --> 01:29:47,674
We're gonna go.
Can you hear yourself all right?
1670
01:29:47,799 --> 01:29:52,053
- Yeah.
- Drummer: One, two, one, two, three.
1671
01:30:07,485 --> 01:30:10,572
J“ 80 hard to answer future's riddle
1672
01:30:10,697 --> 01:30:14,242
j“ when ahead seems so far behind
1673
01:30:15,327 --> 01:30:18,163
j“ 80 hard to laugh a childlike giggle
1674
01:30:18,288 --> 01:30:21,583
j“ when the tears
start to torture my mind
1675
01:30:22,918 --> 01:30:25,921
j“ 80 hard to shed the life of before
1676
01:30:26,004 --> 01:30:29,883
j“ to let my soul automatically soar
1677
01:30:29,966 --> 01:30:33,929
j“ but I hit hard at the battle
that's confronting me
1678
01:30:34,512 --> 01:30:37,724
j“ knock down all the roadblocks
a-stumbling me
1679
01:30:37,849 --> 01:30:42,604
j“ threw off all the shackles
that are binding me down
1680
01:30:42,729 --> 01:30:45,523
j“ down, down, down
1681
01:30:45,649 --> 01:30:48,777
j“ sew up the wounds of evolution
1682
01:30:48,902 --> 01:30:52,155
j“ and the now starts to get in my way
1683
01:30:53,239 --> 01:30:55,992
j“ 80 what if life's a revelation
1684
01:30:56,117 --> 01:30:59,621
j“ if the mind speaks of only today?
1685
01:31:00,872 --> 01:31:04,042
J“ 80 real, the pain of growing in soul
1686
01:31:04,167 --> 01:31:08,171
j“ I'm climbing up to reality's goal
1687
01:31:08,296 --> 01:31:11,967
j“ but I hit hard at the battle
that's confronting me
1688
01:31:12,092 --> 01:31:16,388
j“ knock down all the roadblocks
a-stumbling me
1689
01:31:16,554 --> 01:31:20,809
j“ throw off all the shackles
that are binding me down
1690
01:31:20,934 --> 01:31:23,395
j“ down, down, down
1691
01:31:23,561 --> 01:31:27,148
- j“ long promised road
- j“ bah-bah, bah-bah
1692
01:31:27,273 --> 01:31:32,737
j“ trail starts at dawn,
carries on to the season's ending
1693
01:31:33,154 --> 01:31:37,367
j“ ooh, ooh...
1694
01:31:38,660 --> 01:31:42,747
- J“ long promised road
- j“ bah-bah, bah-bah
1695
01:31:42,872 --> 01:31:47,752
j“ flows to the source,
gentle voice, never ending
1696
01:31:49,004 --> 01:31:51,172
j“ never ending
1697
01:31:51,297 --> 01:31:53,633
it's like Brian's music
taps into that same source
1698
01:31:53,758 --> 01:31:55,510
that gospel music taps into,
1699
01:31:55,635 --> 01:31:59,931
of that deep, fundamental sadness
or darkness that we all carry.
1700
01:32:00,015 --> 01:32:02,767
It's like it finds you there
and it takes you up out of it.
1701
01:32:02,892 --> 01:32:05,603
That was just innately in the music.
1702
01:32:05,729 --> 01:32:08,023
The harmonies, the sound of them,
1703
01:32:08,106 --> 01:32:11,109
offered a way out,
and offered a transcendence.
1704
01:32:11,234 --> 01:32:14,696
You can put on all these songs,
and it still stands up.
1705
01:32:14,821 --> 01:32:17,574
We're never gonna have
Brian Wilson ever again.
1706
01:32:17,699 --> 01:32:20,535
He once told me
that he used to pray
1707
01:32:20,660 --> 01:32:22,704
to make really spiritual music
1708
01:32:22,829 --> 01:32:25,540
and to make a better album
than rubber soul.
1709
01:32:30,295 --> 01:32:32,047
That's a good prayer.
1710
01:32:32,172 --> 01:32:34,174
It worked.
1711
01:32:34,299 --> 01:32:36,342
That should convert you.
1712
01:32:36,468 --> 01:32:39,596
Brian is a living example,
through his suffering,
1713
01:32:39,721 --> 01:32:42,640
through his pain, he found a joy.
1714
01:32:42,766 --> 01:32:46,227
His music is an act of love.
1715
01:32:47,062 --> 01:32:50,607
- J“ long promised road
- j“ bah-bah, bah-bah
1716
01:32:50,732 --> 01:32:56,071
j“ flows to the source,
gentle force, never ending
1717
01:32:57,489 --> 01:32:59,199
j“ never ending
1718
01:32:59,324 --> 01:33:00,784
good one!
1719
01:33:01,618 --> 01:33:04,287
- I like it!
- Man: Beautiful.
1720
01:33:05,955 --> 01:33:08,041
Subtitles: Iyuno-sdi group
1721
01:33:08,124 --> 01:33:10,752
Melinda: J“ Barbara Ann...
1722
01:33:11,419 --> 01:33:13,880
Barbara Ann.
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