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There you are. 8 00:00:41,432 --> 00:00:42,912 How long has this singing been going on? 9 00:00:43,043 --> 00:00:44,740 About three years now. 10 00:00:44,783 --> 00:00:47,308 You know, it's an amazing thing, because you have hit after hit. 11 00:00:47,351 --> 00:00:51,138 Who determines, Brian, what will be done next? 12 00:00:51,225 --> 00:00:52,574 Well, I guess I do, I don't know. 13 00:00:54,315 --> 00:00:54,924 I write the songs and produce them, 14 00:00:55,011 --> 00:00:57,231 so I have a lot to say about it. 15 00:00:57,318 --> 00:00:59,581 - ♪ Ooh, ooh, ooh... - I think it's beautiful. 16 00:00:59,711 --> 00:01:01,583 This is a little intro, you know. 17 00:01:01,713 --> 00:01:03,715 All right, let's try to really pull it off good now. 18 00:01:03,802 --> 00:01:05,369 Here we go. 19 00:01:18,295 --> 00:01:19,688 Play hard and strong, all the way. 20 00:01:19,775 --> 00:01:21,820 You know the part... 21 00:01:21,907 --> 00:01:23,474 - Do-do, do-do... - Yeah, after the horn. 22 00:01:23,561 --> 00:01:24,954 That's your spot... do-do, do-do. 23 00:01:25,041 --> 00:01:27,130 And then what after that, Brian? Then he goes... 24 00:01:27,217 --> 00:01:30,264 ♪ Da-da, da-da, da-da, da-da Boom! Two, three, four... 25 00:01:30,351 --> 00:01:31,395 - Let me hear the organ. - Ba-dum! 26 00:01:31,482 --> 00:01:32,483 Perfect. 27 00:01:32,570 --> 00:01:33,876 Okay, we'll go with that. 28 00:01:33,963 --> 00:01:35,399 Let's go again, please. 29 00:01:35,486 --> 00:01:39,403 ♪ I know myself, I know my real power ♪ 30 00:01:39,490 --> 00:01:41,623 ♪ Will get me through again ♪ 31 00:01:41,753 --> 00:01:43,755 ♪ Ah... ♪ 32 00:01:43,886 --> 00:01:45,975 - Here we go. - Yeah. 33 00:01:46,106 --> 00:01:47,846 ♪ If you stick with it, baby ♪ 34 00:01:47,933 --> 00:01:50,066 - ♪ Ah... - ♪ Things work out ♪ 35 00:01:50,153 --> 00:01:53,069 ♪ You find a way to win ♪ 36 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:54,418 You've been out on this really long tour. 37 00:01:54,505 --> 00:01:56,725 - Right. - You know, recording 38 00:01:56,812 --> 00:01:58,030 several new albums. 39 00:01:58,074 --> 00:01:59,989 Uh... you know, really nonstop since, you know, 40 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:01,208 since your late '50s era. 41 00:02:01,338 --> 00:02:03,035 - Right, right. - Um... 42 00:02:03,079 --> 00:02:05,299 How do you explain that kind of burst of creativity and energy? 43 00:02:05,429 --> 00:02:06,561 Where does the, this, this sudden surge 44 00:02:06,648 --> 00:02:09,390 of creativity and energy come for you? 45 00:02:09,433 --> 00:02:12,436 It starts in my brain... 46 00:02:12,567 --> 00:02:14,960 makes its way out onto the piano... 47 00:02:15,047 --> 00:02:17,572 and then on to the... to the speakers in the studio. 48 00:02:17,659 --> 00:02:19,574 Yeah. 49 00:02:19,661 --> 00:02:20,966 Is that something you can explain? 50 00:02:21,053 --> 00:02:22,185 Is that something that's even explainable? 51 00:02:22,229 --> 00:02:23,839 No, I can't. I can't. 52 00:02:23,882 --> 00:02:25,449 And now, okay, I'd like to start it out 53 00:02:25,580 --> 00:02:28,365 with the, uh, organ and the Fender bass. 54 00:02:30,106 --> 00:02:31,629 He was one of the first people 55 00:02:31,673 --> 00:02:34,328 to actually use the studio as an instrument itself. 56 00:02:34,415 --> 00:02:35,807 Play hard and strong all the way. 57 00:02:35,894 --> 00:02:37,853 Really feel it, fellas, play. 58 00:02:37,896 --> 00:02:39,942 And there's a certain amount of songwriting you can 59 00:02:39,985 --> 00:02:41,987 learn how to do and you can educate yourself, and then... 60 00:02:42,074 --> 00:02:43,598 - Watch me on that part. - ...it's just a fact 61 00:02:43,685 --> 00:02:45,643 that some people are just better than other people... 62 00:02:45,687 --> 00:02:46,992 and Brian's one of the people who's 63 00:02:47,079 --> 00:02:47,993 just better than other people. 64 00:02:48,037 --> 00:02:49,995 Are we ready? Let's go. 65 00:02:50,082 --> 00:02:51,606 Take five, "Good Vibrations." 66 00:02:53,695 --> 00:02:56,480 ♪ I'm pickin' up good vibrations... ♪ 67 00:02:56,611 --> 00:02:57,786 "Good Vibrations," goddamn. 68 00:02:57,873 --> 00:02:59,701 The idea that the chorus is at one studio 69 00:02:59,788 --> 00:03:01,572 and the verses are in the other studio? 70 00:03:01,703 --> 00:03:05,097 That's why that song is so freaky and so wonderful. 71 00:03:05,141 --> 00:03:08,710 "Good Vibrations" was recorded in four studios: 72 00:03:08,797 --> 00:03:13,367 Western, Sunset Sound, Gold Star and RCA Victor. 73 00:03:13,454 --> 00:03:15,717 Well, each studio was different, you know? 74 00:03:15,804 --> 00:03:17,588 Like, you can't... not any one studio's the same. 75 00:03:17,675 --> 00:03:20,591 - ♪ Excitations... - ♪ Closer... ♪ 76 00:03:20,678 --> 00:03:24,073 He sets a very high standard for... 77 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:26,118 not just being innovative, 78 00:03:26,162 --> 00:03:31,907 but... to... also be emotionally evocative. 79 00:03:31,950 --> 00:03:33,996 ♪ When... 80 00:03:34,083 --> 00:03:36,390 ♪ I look in her eyes ♪ 81 00:03:36,477 --> 00:03:40,481 ♪ She goes with me to a blossom world ♪ 82 00:03:43,745 --> 00:03:47,183 ♪ I'm pickin' up good vibrations ♪ 83 00:03:47,270 --> 00:03:49,533 ♪ She's givin' me excitations ♪ 84 00:03:49,664 --> 00:03:51,274 Well, he used all the orchestra. 85 00:03:51,318 --> 00:03:52,623 He used orchestral things. 86 00:03:52,710 --> 00:03:54,973 He used timpani, he used woodwinds. 87 00:03:55,104 --> 00:03:57,237 His musical knowledge wasn't just as a band. 88 00:03:57,324 --> 00:03:58,977 He had an orchestra in his head. 89 00:03:59,108 --> 00:04:00,109 ♪ Good vibrations ♪ 90 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:01,545 ♪ Oom-bop-bop ♪ 91 00:04:01,632 --> 00:04:02,546 ♪ Excitations... ♪ 92 00:04:02,633 --> 00:04:04,374 ♪ Good, good, good... ♪ 93 00:04:04,418 --> 00:04:07,203 I mean, the Beatles had George Martin to do it for them, 94 00:04:07,290 --> 00:04:08,900 but Brian, he did it himself. 95 00:04:08,987 --> 00:04:14,166 ♪ ...tations... ♪ 96 00:04:14,210 --> 00:04:16,343 Well, the Beatles were probably my favorite group. 97 00:04:16,473 --> 00:04:19,781 Very, very inspirational with "Rubber Soul." 98 00:04:19,911 --> 00:04:22,000 That made me write the "Pet Sounds" album. 99 00:04:22,131 --> 00:04:25,787 ♪ I don't know where, but she sends me there... ♪ 100 00:04:25,874 --> 00:04:28,093 The level of musicianship and musicality... 101 00:04:28,180 --> 00:04:31,096 I don't think anybody's touched it yet, for, for my money. 102 00:04:31,183 --> 00:04:33,577 ♪ ...my, what elation ♪ 103 00:04:33,664 --> 00:04:35,710 ♪ Oh, my, my what... ♪ 104 00:04:35,797 --> 00:04:36,972 Back at that time, 105 00:04:37,015 --> 00:04:40,671 there's a lot of upbeat, up-tempo songs, 106 00:04:40,758 --> 00:04:44,545 but Brian brought in this haunting harmony. 107 00:04:44,632 --> 00:04:46,895 ♪ ...those lovin' good... vibrations... ♪ 108 00:04:46,982 --> 00:04:47,896 You know there's something going on 109 00:04:47,939 --> 00:04:49,680 with Brian Wilson. 110 00:04:49,811 --> 00:04:52,248 There's no hiding that this man is troubled 111 00:04:52,335 --> 00:04:55,251 and trying to escape something. 112 00:04:55,338 --> 00:04:56,948 ♪ ...um-dee-dah, oh, oh ♪ 113 00:04:57,035 --> 00:05:00,604 - ♪ Um-dee-dah... - ♪ Gotta keep those lovin'... ♪ 114 00:05:00,735 --> 00:05:02,432 - ♪ Um-dee-dah... - ♪ ...vibrations... ♪ 115 00:05:02,476 --> 00:05:05,566 He's just... one of the greatest artists 116 00:05:05,653 --> 00:05:06,958 who ever walked the face of the earth... 117 00:05:07,045 --> 00:05:09,178 ♪ Ahh... ♪ 118 00:05:09,265 --> 00:05:11,049 ...in our time or in any time. 119 00:05:11,136 --> 00:05:12,790 - ♪ Good, good, good - ♪ I'm pickin up ♪ 120 00:05:12,834 --> 00:05:14,401 - ♪ Good vibrations - ♪ Good vibrations 121 00:05:14,488 --> 00:05:16,838 ♪ She's givin' me excitations ♪ 122 00:05:16,968 --> 00:05:19,144 - ♪ Good, good, good - ♪ Bop, bop ♪ 123 00:05:19,231 --> 00:05:23,627 ♪ Good vibrations ♪ 124 00:05:23,758 --> 00:05:26,717 ♪ Na na na na na, na na na ♪ 125 00:05:26,848 --> 00:05:30,417 - ♪ Na na na na na, na na na - ♪ Bopa-bopa-bopa-ba, ba ♪ 126 00:05:36,858 --> 00:05:39,513 While we're making the tapes, Pop, 127 00:05:39,643 --> 00:05:41,297 we won't be able to have that, uh, camera going. 128 00:05:43,517 --> 00:05:45,040 It's a wonderful treat for me tonight 129 00:05:45,083 --> 00:05:47,738 to have heard and seen the Beach Boys... 130 00:05:47,825 --> 00:05:49,261 ...and as you can hear 131 00:05:49,305 --> 00:05:51,263 in the background, the girls are still hollering for them. 132 00:05:51,307 --> 00:05:54,005 I'm quite pleased to present to you two of them, 133 00:05:54,136 --> 00:05:56,747 Brian Wilson on my right, 134 00:05:56,834 --> 00:05:59,750 and Carl Wilson, his brother, on the left. 135 00:05:59,837 --> 00:06:01,404 So, this is just two of them. 136 00:06:01,491 --> 00:06:03,580 In just a minute, you'll meet the rest of them, but... 137 00:06:03,667 --> 00:06:05,277 Brian, I understand that you've written, uh, 138 00:06:05,321 --> 00:06:07,105 many of the songs that you all have recorded, and... 139 00:06:07,236 --> 00:06:12,110 when you write a song, um, for yourself or for your group... 140 00:06:12,197 --> 00:06:15,810 what gives you the, um, incentive to write them? 141 00:06:15,897 --> 00:06:18,856 Well, usually, uh, just the fact that we're in the industry 142 00:06:18,900 --> 00:06:20,728 and there's a lot of groups competing with us, 143 00:06:20,771 --> 00:06:22,556 and, uh, I feel that competition, you know, 144 00:06:22,643 --> 00:06:25,080 and also I just... I love music, 145 00:06:25,167 --> 00:06:27,125 and I get very inspired just generally creative anyway... 146 00:06:27,256 --> 00:06:28,605 - Right, I understand. - You know, and I just do it 147 00:06:28,692 --> 00:06:30,302 all the time, write all the time. 148 00:06:30,346 --> 00:06:31,869 Well, now, the, um... how many of them have you had 149 00:06:31,913 --> 00:06:34,002 that have been million-sellers? 150 00:06:34,132 --> 00:06:35,656 Well, actually, million-sellers, we've had one million-seller, 151 00:06:35,699 --> 00:06:37,353 that was "I Get Around," just recently. 152 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:39,573 - You wrote this? - Yes, I did. 153 00:06:39,703 --> 00:06:43,446 ♪ Round, round, get around, I get around, yeah ♪ 154 00:06:43,533 --> 00:06:44,795 ♪ Get around, round, round, I get around ♪ 155 00:06:44,882 --> 00:06:46,362 ♪ I get around... ♪ 156 00:06:46,493 --> 00:06:48,320 ♪ Get around, round, round, I get around ♪ 157 00:06:48,364 --> 00:06:50,366 - ♪ From town to town... - ♪ Get around, round... 158 00:06:50,497 --> 00:06:51,672 Here's this genius 159 00:06:51,715 --> 00:06:53,151 who just can't help but come up 160 00:06:53,282 --> 00:06:55,850 with these complex arrangements of harmonies, 161 00:06:55,937 --> 00:06:58,679 and then his little brother comes in and says, 162 00:06:58,766 --> 00:07:00,507 "Well, you guys should write songs about cars and surfing, 163 00:07:00,594 --> 00:07:02,378 'cause that's what kids are into." 164 00:07:02,509 --> 00:07:06,295 ♪ ...find a new place where the kids are hip ♪ 165 00:07:08,819 --> 00:07:12,388 ♪ My buddies and me are gettin' real well-known, yeah... ♪ 166 00:07:12,519 --> 00:07:14,564 Name some of them that you've written, Brian. 167 00:07:14,608 --> 00:07:16,044 Okay... 168 00:07:16,131 --> 00:07:18,481 Well, starting with, uh, "Surfin'," our first record, 169 00:07:18,568 --> 00:07:22,050 "Surfin' Safari," "409," "Surfer Girl," "Little Deuce Coupe," 170 00:07:22,137 --> 00:07:23,747 "Shutdown," "Surfin' U.S.A," "Be True to Your School..." 171 00:07:23,878 --> 00:07:25,314 "The Little Old Lady from Pasadena"? 172 00:07:25,445 --> 00:07:26,750 That's Jan and Dean. 173 00:07:26,881 --> 00:07:29,274 - Is that right? - And, uh... "Fun, Fun, Fun..." 174 00:07:29,361 --> 00:07:30,928 - Oh, it goes on and on. - "I Get Around," 175 00:07:30,972 --> 00:07:32,626 "Don't Worry, Baby..." we had "Little Saint Nick" 176 00:07:32,713 --> 00:07:34,192 - at Christmastime... - Uh-huh. 177 00:07:34,279 --> 00:07:36,281 - And then... pardon me? - "When I Grow Up..." 178 00:07:36,368 --> 00:07:38,109 - "When I Grow Up to Be a Man" and "She Knows Me Too Well" 179 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:40,111 are our latest records. 180 00:07:40,198 --> 00:07:41,765 Well, you certainly are a talented young man. 181 00:07:41,852 --> 00:07:43,506 Let's talk to your brother just a minute. 182 00:07:43,593 --> 00:07:45,465 Do you share this, uh, admiration for your brother? 183 00:07:45,552 --> 00:07:47,205 Yes. Well... 184 00:07:47,292 --> 00:07:48,946 He's, he's done very well with us, you know, I mean... 185 00:07:48,990 --> 00:07:51,558 we've had great good luck with the records... 186 00:07:51,688 --> 00:07:52,907 And this... you're Carl, right? 187 00:07:52,994 --> 00:07:54,212 - Right. - Carl's the lead guitar player. 188 00:07:54,299 --> 00:07:55,518 Lead guitar. 189 00:07:55,562 --> 00:07:58,347 How did you, uh, assemble the group...? 190 00:07:58,434 --> 00:08:00,088 Well, one day, as we were walking down the street, 191 00:08:00,175 --> 00:08:01,568 we all bumped heads. 192 00:08:01,655 --> 00:08:03,787 - No, I don't know. - Seriously, Dennis got the idea 193 00:08:03,874 --> 00:08:05,528 that we should write something about surfing, 194 00:08:05,615 --> 00:08:07,878 because he was a big, avid server... surfer then. 195 00:08:07,965 --> 00:08:10,054 - You're a surfer. - Yes, ma'am. 196 00:08:10,098 --> 00:08:12,361 Well, this is something we don't have much out in Oklahoma. 197 00:08:12,448 --> 00:08:14,319 I, I know. 198 00:08:14,363 --> 00:08:15,756 Thanks so much for stopping by. 199 00:08:15,799 --> 00:08:16,974 May I compliment you on your beautiful dress? 200 00:08:17,018 --> 00:08:18,759 - Thank you. - It is beautiful. 201 00:08:18,846 --> 00:08:20,456 I think it is beautiful... is it a gown or a dress or...? 202 00:08:20,587 --> 00:08:24,678 Well, actually it's, uh... sort of, um, a beach girl type... 203 00:08:24,808 --> 00:08:26,244 - I like that. - I wanted to be in style 204 00:08:26,331 --> 00:08:28,986 when I talk to the Beach Boys. 205 00:08:29,030 --> 00:08:30,727 ♪ Ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh... 206 00:08:30,814 --> 00:08:32,686 ♪ Get around, round, round, I get around... ♪ 207 00:08:32,773 --> 00:08:34,383 At the end of the concert, 208 00:08:34,470 --> 00:08:36,603 the girls would all rush the stage to get Dennis. 209 00:08:36,690 --> 00:08:38,605 You know, we'd say... me and Mike and the guys would go, 210 00:08:38,692 --> 00:08:40,041 "What's going on here," you know? 211 00:08:40,128 --> 00:08:44,175 The girls were all crying, "Dennis, Dennis," you know? 212 00:08:44,262 --> 00:08:47,744 - Yeah. He was our sex symbol. - Right, right. 213 00:08:49,006 --> 00:08:51,618 You and he had a little competition, uh, 214 00:08:51,705 --> 00:08:53,837 for some women sometimes, too, didn't you? 215 00:08:53,968 --> 00:08:55,186 - Who, me and Dennis? - Yeah. 216 00:08:55,273 --> 00:08:56,231 - No... - No? 217 00:08:56,274 --> 00:08:57,275 He was a ladies' man. 218 00:08:57,406 --> 00:08:59,016 I never was a ladies' man, you know? 219 00:08:59,060 --> 00:09:01,715 - Right. - He was always the ladies' man. 220 00:09:01,802 --> 00:09:03,455 What, what prevented you 221 00:09:03,499 --> 00:09:06,284 from being a ladies' man, do you think? 222 00:09:06,415 --> 00:09:08,112 Ah... just shy of girls, a little shy. 223 00:09:08,199 --> 00:09:10,637 Uh-huh, right. 224 00:09:35,009 --> 00:09:37,011 You can park right there. 225 00:09:37,098 --> 00:09:38,882 - In the handicapped? - Yeah. Yeah. 226 00:09:38,969 --> 00:09:40,231 - I always park there. - Really? 227 00:09:40,318 --> 00:09:42,320 - Yeah. - Okay. 228 00:09:42,451 --> 00:09:44,888 These guys'll probably wanna move it, but I'll park here. 229 00:09:44,975 --> 00:09:46,020 Okay. 230 00:09:46,150 --> 00:09:47,717 I'm hungry. 231 00:09:47,761 --> 00:09:49,676 - All right, let's get in there. - Okay. 232 00:09:52,243 --> 00:09:55,812 Must have been to this deli with you about... 20 times. 233 00:09:55,899 --> 00:09:57,684 - Yeah, at least 20. - Right? 234 00:09:57,771 --> 00:09:59,773 - Good times here. - Yeah. 235 00:09:59,903 --> 00:10:02,427 It's, uh... I'm, I'm hot, you know? 236 00:10:02,514 --> 00:10:03,690 - Yeah. - I'm nervous. 237 00:10:03,820 --> 00:10:05,561 - Yeah. - I didn't sleep last night, 238 00:10:05,648 --> 00:10:06,693 and my head feels wacky. 239 00:10:06,823 --> 00:10:08,303 - Oh, it does? - Yeah. 240 00:10:08,346 --> 00:10:09,565 Why don't we just relax? 241 00:10:09,652 --> 00:10:12,829 Okay. Enjoy our food. 242 00:10:15,266 --> 00:10:17,529 When you get scared, what do you do? 243 00:10:17,573 --> 00:10:19,270 You just take a deep breath? 244 00:10:19,357 --> 00:10:23,013 If I take... if I get scared, I take a, a deep breath, 245 00:10:23,100 --> 00:10:24,711 but I take it... try and take it from my belly. 246 00:10:24,841 --> 00:10:26,582 Oh, take it... 247 00:10:26,669 --> 00:10:28,062 - ...really deep in here... - Right. 248 00:10:28,149 --> 00:10:30,717 ...and then... 249 00:10:30,804 --> 00:10:32,457 How's your mood been? 250 00:10:32,544 --> 00:10:33,894 - My mood? - Yeah. 251 00:10:33,981 --> 00:10:35,591 - It's been about even... - Good. Good. 252 00:10:35,678 --> 00:10:38,289 Not depressed, not elated, just... 253 00:10:38,376 --> 00:10:39,726 - even. - Mm-hmm. 254 00:10:39,813 --> 00:10:41,292 - Yeah. - You feeling scared now? 255 00:10:41,379 --> 00:10:43,643 Little bit. 256 00:10:43,730 --> 00:10:46,080 It's nice to be with you. 257 00:10:46,167 --> 00:10:47,734 You're a good guy, Jason. 258 00:10:47,864 --> 00:10:50,388 Thank you, Brian. You are too. 259 00:10:50,475 --> 00:10:52,390 You are a cool person. 260 00:10:52,477 --> 00:10:56,046 You have a very consistent way of talking, you know? 261 00:10:56,133 --> 00:10:58,919 You sorta stay in this one space, you know? 262 00:10:58,962 --> 00:11:00,616 In talk. 263 00:11:00,703 --> 00:11:02,052 Does it make you feel comfortable? 264 00:11:02,139 --> 00:11:03,967 - Yeah, helps me out. - Good, I'm glad. 265 00:11:04,054 --> 00:11:04,968 When I'm scared, I listen to you talk, you know? 266 00:11:05,055 --> 00:11:06,187 - Really? - Yeah. 267 00:11:06,317 --> 00:11:08,102 And thinking... it'll calm you down? 268 00:11:08,189 --> 00:11:09,407 - Yeah! - All right, man. 269 00:11:09,494 --> 00:11:11,322 Well, I'm there for you. 270 00:11:11,409 --> 00:11:13,803 - I'm there for you too. - Thanks, man. 271 00:11:16,588 --> 00:11:18,634 I first met Brian in 1995. 272 00:11:18,721 --> 00:11:20,070 I went to interview him 273 00:11:20,157 --> 00:11:21,768 for the paper I was working for at the time, 274 00:11:21,898 --> 00:11:23,378 and we had a nice chat. 275 00:11:23,421 --> 00:11:25,641 And when I first came to work at Rolling Stone 276 00:11:25,728 --> 00:11:26,903 in 1997, 277 00:11:26,990 --> 00:11:29,558 Brian had begun to start 278 00:11:29,645 --> 00:11:32,169 what was gonna be sort of a solo career. 279 00:11:32,213 --> 00:11:34,084 He was putting a band together, 280 00:11:34,215 --> 00:11:36,217 he was releasing a record called "Imagination," 281 00:11:36,347 --> 00:11:40,003 and I... convinced... Jann, my boss, 282 00:11:40,090 --> 00:11:42,745 to let me go to Chicago, where he was rehearsing. 283 00:11:42,789 --> 00:11:44,355 One of the first times we spoke, 284 00:11:44,442 --> 00:11:46,531 uh, we were sitting in his living room. 285 00:11:46,618 --> 00:11:48,577 We were talking, and sort of right in the middle of our chat, 286 00:11:48,664 --> 00:11:51,623 about 10 minutes in, he just started to fidget, 287 00:11:51,667 --> 00:11:53,625 and he, he said, "I gotta go." 288 00:11:53,669 --> 00:11:55,584 And he got up and he left. 289 00:11:55,671 --> 00:11:56,890 And I was sitting there, 290 00:11:57,020 --> 00:11:58,108 I didn't know if he was coming back 291 00:11:58,195 --> 00:12:00,981 or, or not coming back, and I waited a while, 292 00:12:01,024 --> 00:12:02,678 and I just sorta started looking around, 293 00:12:02,809 --> 00:12:04,898 and I found myself in the kitchen, 294 00:12:05,028 --> 00:12:07,030 where I found Brian in the refrigerator. 295 00:12:07,161 --> 00:12:08,989 I said, uh, "What's going on?" 296 00:12:09,076 --> 00:12:11,034 He said, "I just got a little scared." 297 00:12:11,165 --> 00:12:12,819 And I said, "Well, what did you get scared of?" 298 00:12:12,906 --> 00:12:14,646 He said, "I don't know. 299 00:12:14,690 --> 00:12:17,345 You know, sometimes I just get scared, things scare me." 300 00:12:17,388 --> 00:12:19,129 I said, "Like what?" 301 00:12:19,216 --> 00:12:21,610 He said, um, "Like 'What a Fool Believes.' 302 00:12:21,697 --> 00:12:23,481 "You know that song by the Doobie Brothers? 303 00:12:23,612 --> 00:12:24,744 Scares the hell out of me." 304 00:12:24,831 --> 00:12:26,397 You know? And it was just like that. 305 00:12:26,484 --> 00:12:28,051 And we started having these moments, 306 00:12:28,182 --> 00:12:30,488 and ever since then, it just kinda became 307 00:12:30,575 --> 00:12:33,796 part of my beat at Rolling Stone to cover Brian. 308 00:12:33,883 --> 00:12:37,669 ♪ Wouldn't it be nice if we were older ♪ 309 00:12:37,713 --> 00:12:41,456 ♪ Then we wouldn't have to wait so long ♪ 310 00:12:41,499 --> 00:12:43,675 - ♪ And wouldn't it be nice... - And we became buddies. 311 00:12:43,719 --> 00:12:45,286 ♪ ...to live together 312 00:12:45,373 --> 00:12:47,505 ♪ In the kinda world where we belong... ♪ 313 00:12:47,592 --> 00:12:50,378 The idea of doing an interview makes Brian nervous, 314 00:12:50,465 --> 00:12:52,684 so he'll often ask if we can just take a drive 315 00:12:52,728 --> 00:12:54,861 and listen to some music. 316 00:12:54,991 --> 00:12:57,515 Look at that old car. 317 00:12:57,602 --> 00:12:58,734 What kinda car is that? 318 00:12:58,821 --> 00:12:59,648 - What is that? - I don't know. 319 00:12:59,779 --> 00:13:01,389 Is that a Rolls-Royce? 320 00:13:01,476 --> 00:13:03,870 Yeah, I think it's... don't think it's a Rolls. 321 00:13:03,957 --> 00:13:05,436 I think it's American, isn't it? 322 00:13:05,523 --> 00:13:06,742 Cadillac. 323 00:13:06,829 --> 00:13:08,396 - Cadillac? - Yeah. 324 00:13:08,483 --> 00:13:09,266 Old Cadillac, right? 325 00:13:09,310 --> 00:13:11,616 - Yeah. - From what, the '30s? 326 00:13:11,660 --> 00:13:13,444 Or maybe from the '40s? 327 00:13:13,575 --> 00:13:14,794 - Maybe '40s. - Yeah. 328 00:13:14,881 --> 00:13:17,057 Ask the guy, yell it out, ask him. 329 00:13:17,100 --> 00:13:19,537 - Well, I can't... - Hey, buddy?! 330 00:13:19,668 --> 00:13:21,017 What year is that car? 331 00:13:21,104 --> 00:13:22,845 - '41. - It's a '41. 332 00:13:22,932 --> 00:13:25,239 Thank you. '41. 333 00:13:25,326 --> 00:13:28,546 ♪ Let's go surfin' now, everybody's learnin' how ♪ 334 00:13:28,677 --> 00:13:30,157 ♪ Come on a safari... ♪ 335 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:31,549 It was probably "Surfin' Safari," 336 00:13:31,680 --> 00:13:33,508 the first Beach Boys record I ever bought. 337 00:13:33,551 --> 00:13:37,207 The voices, the tone of the voices, was so beautiful. 338 00:13:37,294 --> 00:13:39,340 Bit like a classical choir, in a way. 339 00:13:39,427 --> 00:13:43,126 It made California sound such an incredible place to go. 340 00:13:43,257 --> 00:13:45,389 You know, the rooftop is down. 341 00:13:45,476 --> 00:13:47,000 The story begins. 342 00:13:47,087 --> 00:13:50,090 And then they invite you into that world, 343 00:13:50,177 --> 00:13:52,875 and that world has its own rules and its own code 344 00:13:52,919 --> 00:13:54,485 and its own story to tell. 345 00:13:54,572 --> 00:13:58,098 There was no greater world created in rock-and-roll 346 00:13:58,141 --> 00:14:00,013 than the Beach Boys. 347 00:14:00,100 --> 00:14:01,928 I mean, they defined Southern California 348 00:14:02,015 --> 00:14:03,668 for everybody around the world. 349 00:14:03,755 --> 00:14:05,932 It just took you out of where you were 350 00:14:06,019 --> 00:14:07,498 and took you to another place. 351 00:14:07,585 --> 00:14:09,283 ♪ If you're comin', get ready to go... ♪ 352 00:14:09,370 --> 00:14:11,589 Have you ever been to Paradise Cove? 353 00:14:11,676 --> 00:14:13,722 Years and years ago. 354 00:14:13,809 --> 00:14:17,160 Do you remember when you were shooting the album cover 355 00:14:17,247 --> 00:14:18,727 for the Beach Boys' first album? 356 00:14:18,858 --> 00:14:19,946 Can't remember. 357 00:14:20,033 --> 00:14:22,252 Right. It's a long time ago. 358 00:14:22,296 --> 00:14:24,124 Yup. 359 00:14:24,211 --> 00:14:25,560 Was it a little bit funny singing all, 360 00:14:25,603 --> 00:14:28,041 all the songs about surfing without actually surfing? 361 00:14:28,128 --> 00:14:29,738 Yeah, Dennis surfed. I never learned. 362 00:14:29,869 --> 00:14:31,522 - Right. - ...how to surf. 363 00:14:31,609 --> 00:14:34,177 - There's Paradise Cove. - Here we are. 364 00:14:34,264 --> 00:14:35,526 Closer than I thought. 365 00:14:35,657 --> 00:14:36,963 ♪ ...surfin' safari... ♪ 366 00:14:37,050 --> 00:14:38,965 ♪ Yes, I'm gonna take you ♪ 367 00:14:39,095 --> 00:14:40,314 ♪ Surfin' with me... ♪ 368 00:14:40,401 --> 00:14:42,620 - There it is, look! - There it is! 369 00:14:42,751 --> 00:14:44,274 "This marks 'The Spot.'" 370 00:14:45,101 --> 00:14:46,668 55 years ago. 371 00:14:46,755 --> 00:14:48,191 ♪ Let's go surfin' now ♪ 372 00:14:48,278 --> 00:14:49,758 ♪ Everybody's learnin' how ♪ 373 00:14:49,845 --> 00:14:52,195 ♪ Come on a safari with me ♪ 374 00:14:52,282 --> 00:14:54,415 ♪ Come on a safari with me... ♪ 375 00:14:54,545 --> 00:14:56,199 - ♪ Surfin' safari - ♪ Yeah, me ♪ 376 00:14:56,330 --> 00:14:57,897 - ♪ Surfin' safari... - ♪ With me, with me... ♪ 377 00:15:00,856 --> 00:15:03,337 How you feeling about Hawthorne? 378 00:15:03,424 --> 00:15:05,426 Uh, you know, I'm a little nervous to go back there. 379 00:15:05,556 --> 00:15:07,210 - You know what I mean? - Mm-hmm. 380 00:15:07,341 --> 00:15:09,212 'Cause, like, I, I grew up there, 381 00:15:09,299 --> 00:15:11,432 and it's like, you know... I have a very... 382 00:15:11,519 --> 00:15:12,737 lot of sentiments about it, you know? 383 00:15:12,781 --> 00:15:15,653 Right. 384 00:15:21,964 --> 00:15:25,576 Please play "It's OK" on the, uh, "15 Big Ones." 385 00:15:25,663 --> 00:15:28,318 Okay... you got it. 386 00:15:28,449 --> 00:15:31,626 ♪ It's that time again to shed your load, hit the road ♪ 387 00:15:31,669 --> 00:15:34,063 ♪ On the run again 388 00:15:34,107 --> 00:15:38,067 ♪ Summer skies in our eyes and a warmer sun ♪ 389 00:15:38,111 --> 00:15:43,594 ♪ It one for all, all for one, all for all-out fun ♪ 390 00:15:43,725 --> 00:15:46,771 ♪ Gotta go to it ♪ 391 00:15:46,858 --> 00:15:48,164 - ♪ Gonna go through it... - So, has Hawthorne 392 00:15:48,251 --> 00:15:49,644 changed a lot from when you were young? 393 00:15:49,687 --> 00:15:52,299 Does it look... is it familiar-looking to you? 394 00:15:52,342 --> 00:15:54,040 - What's that? - Hawthorne? 395 00:15:54,127 --> 00:15:56,390 It doesn't look the same. It looks a little different. 396 00:15:56,477 --> 00:15:59,132 Uh-huh. 397 00:15:59,262 --> 00:16:01,612 So this is 119th Street right here? 398 00:16:01,699 --> 00:16:03,701 Yeah. 119th. 399 00:16:03,788 --> 00:16:04,702 And this is the street you lived on? 400 00:16:04,789 --> 00:16:06,487 - Yeah. - So this is where 401 00:16:06,574 --> 00:16:10,360 your house was. Right here. 402 00:16:10,447 --> 00:16:12,275 I don't wanna get out, I just wanna look. 403 00:16:12,406 --> 00:16:15,104 Okay. So, this was all where 404 00:16:15,148 --> 00:16:17,150 - the house was, right here? - Yeah. 405 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:19,065 Uh-huh. Look at the cover of the album. 406 00:16:19,152 --> 00:16:22,024 - Yeah. - Paradise Cove. 407 00:16:22,111 --> 00:16:25,288 "Site of the childhood home of the Beach Boys." 408 00:16:25,419 --> 00:16:30,946 ♪ There's a world where I can go ♪ 409 00:16:31,033 --> 00:16:37,735 ♪ And tell my secrets to... ♪ 410 00:16:37,822 --> 00:16:40,608 ♪ In my room... ♪ 411 00:16:40,695 --> 00:16:44,742 Friday nights, my father would get his paycheck. 412 00:16:44,829 --> 00:16:46,918 So the three of us would be in the back seat singing away. 413 00:16:46,962 --> 00:16:50,748 And that's... actually that's the birth of the three brothers 414 00:16:50,835 --> 00:16:52,402 singing together. 415 00:16:52,489 --> 00:16:55,318 ♪ In this world... 416 00:16:55,405 --> 00:17:04,023 ♪ I lock out all my worries and my fears ♪ 417 00:17:04,110 --> 00:17:06,112 ♪ In my room... ♪ 418 00:17:06,199 --> 00:17:07,852 When we'd be singing harmony together, 419 00:17:07,939 --> 00:17:11,900 my father would just... fall down crying... with joy. 420 00:17:11,987 --> 00:17:13,989 ♪ In my room ♪ 421 00:17:14,076 --> 00:17:19,342 ♪ In my room... ♪ 422 00:17:19,473 --> 00:17:21,953 ♪ Do my dreaming.... ♪ 423 00:17:21,997 --> 00:17:25,914 There's me at my piano when I wrote "Surfer Girl." 424 00:17:26,001 --> 00:17:29,918 ♪ Lie awake and pray... ♪ 425 00:17:34,531 --> 00:17:35,576 Forget it. 426 00:17:35,663 --> 00:17:37,578 That one killed you when it came out. 427 00:17:37,665 --> 00:17:41,495 I played that thing... a thousand times. 428 00:17:42,670 --> 00:17:45,934 ♪ ...yesterday ♪ 429 00:17:46,021 --> 00:17:52,027 ♪ Now it's dark and I'm alone ♪ 430 00:17:52,114 --> 00:17:58,294 ♪ But I won't be afraid... ♪ 431 00:17:58,381 --> 00:18:00,688 How did it feel to be there? 432 00:18:00,775 --> 00:18:02,733 It was a little... scared me a little bit, you know? 433 00:18:02,820 --> 00:18:04,257 - Did it? - 'Cause it, well... 434 00:18:04,344 --> 00:18:05,475 it didn't look the same. 435 00:18:05,519 --> 00:18:08,391 Right. 436 00:18:08,522 --> 00:18:10,089 Yeah. 437 00:18:10,915 --> 00:18:13,614 ♪ ...so faithfully 438 00:18:13,744 --> 00:18:23,189 ♪ You still believe in me... ♪ 439 00:18:23,276 --> 00:18:25,800 ♪ I wanna cry... ♪ 440 00:18:25,843 --> 00:18:31,066 ♪ Ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah ♪ 441 00:18:31,153 --> 00:18:35,375 ♪ Ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah... ♪ 442 00:18:35,418 --> 00:18:40,728 ♪ Ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah... ♪ 443 00:18:40,815 --> 00:18:44,558 - Is this Dartmouth? - To the right, right, right. 444 00:18:47,082 --> 00:18:49,084 This is where you moved 445 00:18:49,171 --> 00:18:50,564 - with Marilyn. - Right. 446 00:18:50,651 --> 00:18:53,828 Was it right after you got married? 447 00:18:53,871 --> 00:18:56,787 About... three months after we got married. 448 00:18:56,874 --> 00:19:00,095 Wow. What a big time in your life. 449 00:19:00,182 --> 00:19:01,096 Yeah. 450 00:19:01,183 --> 00:19:03,185 I did an acid trip there. 451 00:19:03,272 --> 00:19:05,579 Aha... your first... the first time? 452 00:19:05,666 --> 00:19:07,972 Yeah. 453 00:19:08,016 --> 00:19:09,322 Oh, it was scary. 454 00:19:09,409 --> 00:19:11,933 What happened? 455 00:19:12,020 --> 00:19:14,240 I don't know, just... 456 00:19:14,327 --> 00:19:18,809 this friend of mine gave me acid and it freaked me out. 457 00:19:22,770 --> 00:19:25,599 I wrote "California Girls," "Help Me, Rhonda," 458 00:19:25,686 --> 00:19:28,471 and "She's Not the Little Girl I Once Knew." 459 00:19:28,558 --> 00:19:30,038 I wrote all those songs there. 460 00:19:30,125 --> 00:19:31,909 Were you still high when you were doing that? 461 00:19:31,996 --> 00:19:34,260 Uh, no, no, I wasn't. 462 00:19:34,347 --> 00:19:38,873 I wrote "California Girls" about a week or two after acid. 463 00:19:38,916 --> 00:19:41,092 Okay. Did you have a kinda western thing in mind? 464 00:19:41,136 --> 00:19:43,443 Well, I just had this, this... ♪ Doobie Doobie, doo... 465 00:19:43,486 --> 00:19:46,489 I guess that's western, right? 466 00:19:46,620 --> 00:19:48,578 ♪ Well, East Coast girls are hip ♪ 467 00:19:48,665 --> 00:19:53,714 ♪ I really dig those styles they wear ♪ 468 00:19:53,844 --> 00:19:57,848 ♪ And the Southern girls with the way they talk ♪ 469 00:19:57,935 --> 00:20:00,721 ♪ They knock me out when I'm down there... ♪ 470 00:20:00,808 --> 00:20:02,157 Did you have a feeling 471 00:20:02,288 --> 00:20:03,506 that was gonna be a popular song? 472 00:20:03,593 --> 00:20:05,291 Oh, yeah, I could tell when I first wrote it. 473 00:20:05,421 --> 00:20:07,510 After we cut it... 474 00:20:07,597 --> 00:20:09,512 Mike did the lead, boy, and he sang great lead. 475 00:20:09,599 --> 00:20:11,122 - Mm-hmm. - He's a great singer. 476 00:20:11,166 --> 00:20:14,604 ♪ And the Northern girls with the way they kiss ♪ 477 00:20:14,691 --> 00:20:19,609 ♪ They keep their boyfriends warm at night ♪ 478 00:20:19,696 --> 00:20:23,744 ♪ I wish they all could be California ♪ 479 00:20:23,831 --> 00:20:27,704 ♪ I wish they all could be California... ♪ 480 00:20:27,748 --> 00:20:29,532 It was quite a, quite a different changeup 481 00:20:29,663 --> 00:20:31,491 from where I usually work. 482 00:20:31,578 --> 00:20:34,407 The way you connected the intro of the song... 483 00:20:34,494 --> 00:20:36,409 - Right. - ...to the rest of it was... 484 00:20:36,496 --> 00:20:37,758 A different kind of a thing. 485 00:20:37,888 --> 00:20:40,239 Brian just threw away the rule book... 486 00:20:40,326 --> 00:20:41,762 and it was all in his head, 487 00:20:41,892 --> 00:20:44,199 and it's just, "Wow, are you kidding me?" 488 00:20:44,286 --> 00:20:45,679 "What were you thinking, man? 489 00:20:45,766 --> 00:20:47,507 "How did you come up with this combination 490 00:20:47,550 --> 00:20:49,073 of chords and voices?" 491 00:20:49,117 --> 00:20:51,162 He said, "I was at the piano, 492 00:20:51,206 --> 00:20:52,990 "and I was trying not to move 493 00:20:53,077 --> 00:20:55,210 "my highest fingers and my lowest fingers, 494 00:20:55,297 --> 00:21:00,476 but make cool geometric patterns with the internal fingers." 495 00:21:00,563 --> 00:21:02,652 I don't know if he was telling me the truth... 496 00:21:05,525 --> 00:21:07,178 ...but he definitely said that to me. 497 00:21:07,222 --> 00:21:09,877 But if you think about that, 498 00:21:09,964 --> 00:21:14,011 that's kinda like what Mozart does with a string quartet. 499 00:21:14,142 --> 00:21:16,100 Brian had this unique ability 500 00:21:16,187 --> 00:21:20,235 to write a great melody and also arrange some great harmonies 501 00:21:20,366 --> 00:21:21,932 and produce some great records, 502 00:21:22,019 --> 00:21:23,760 so we had all in one with Brian Wilson. 503 00:21:23,804 --> 00:21:28,765 We had a, a, uh, shall we call it a... a jackpot. 504 00:21:28,809 --> 00:21:31,246 Equate that blend, that harmony, 505 00:21:31,377 --> 00:21:34,989 the sound of the vocals... it's like looking up to the heavens. 506 00:21:35,032 --> 00:21:36,120 It's almost ethereal. 507 00:21:36,207 --> 00:21:39,341 There's a very ethereal, uh, rising up. 508 00:21:39,385 --> 00:21:42,039 ♪ I wish they all could be... 509 00:21:42,126 --> 00:21:43,040 The only way 510 00:21:43,127 --> 00:21:44,607 to really accomplish a sound that big 511 00:21:44,738 --> 00:21:47,044 is in knowing what you want to hear, but also 512 00:21:47,175 --> 00:21:48,785 placing some trust in the people you're working with 513 00:21:48,829 --> 00:21:50,483 and saying, "We can all do this together 514 00:21:50,570 --> 00:21:52,267 if you just follow my lead." 515 00:21:52,398 --> 00:21:54,617 ♪ I wish they all could be California... ♪ 516 00:21:54,748 --> 00:21:56,489 Brian was a leader, 517 00:21:56,619 --> 00:22:00,014 and he could shape this group around the brothers, you know, 518 00:22:00,057 --> 00:22:03,322 and his cousin and his neighbor, and that was his team, 519 00:22:03,409 --> 00:22:05,149 and he led these guys. 520 00:22:05,236 --> 00:22:07,848 And I think that that was... gave Brian so much confidence. 521 00:22:07,935 --> 00:22:09,632 They would do anything that he thought 522 00:22:09,719 --> 00:22:11,634 was the right thing to do. 523 00:22:11,721 --> 00:22:13,636 ♪ California girls... ♪ 524 00:22:13,723 --> 00:22:15,334 Hey, let's go... where you wanna go to now? 525 00:22:15,421 --> 00:22:17,814 So, let's go to Laurel Way. 526 00:22:17,858 --> 00:22:20,382 - Okay. - You know how to get there? 527 00:22:20,469 --> 00:22:21,340 Laurel Way... trying to think. 528 00:22:21,427 --> 00:22:22,558 Uh... 529 00:22:22,645 --> 00:22:23,864 Go up Santa Monica or Sunset? 530 00:22:23,994 --> 00:22:25,648 Laurel Way, I... can you navigate it? 531 00:22:25,735 --> 00:22:26,432 Yeah. 532 00:22:30,261 --> 00:22:32,002 What did you feel like when you lived here 533 00:22:32,089 --> 00:22:36,572 and you were young, married, money, writing hits? 534 00:22:36,659 --> 00:22:38,357 What was that feeling for you? 535 00:22:38,444 --> 00:22:39,923 It was excitement. 536 00:22:40,010 --> 00:22:42,796 Exciting and happy. 537 00:22:42,926 --> 00:22:44,319 Groovy feeling. 538 00:22:44,450 --> 00:22:47,757 Haven't seen it since 1966. 539 00:22:47,844 --> 00:22:51,239 ♪ I had to prove that I could make it alone now ♪ 540 00:22:51,326 --> 00:22:55,635 ♪ But that's not me ♪ 541 00:22:55,722 --> 00:22:59,247 ♪ I wanted to show how independent I'd grown now ♪ 542 00:22:59,334 --> 00:23:00,640 ♪ But that's not me... ♪ 543 00:23:00,727 --> 00:23:01,467 Were your parents around then? 544 00:23:01,597 --> 00:23:02,990 Did they come visit and...? 545 00:23:03,033 --> 00:23:05,340 No, they never did. 546 00:23:05,427 --> 00:23:07,473 Was this your first sort of big purchase? 547 00:23:07,603 --> 00:23:09,083 - Yeah. - So that must have been 548 00:23:09,126 --> 00:23:10,563 a really exciting time. 549 00:23:10,693 --> 00:23:13,435 It was, Jason, it was a great time. 550 00:23:13,479 --> 00:23:16,960 ♪ ...just one girl... 551 00:23:20,703 --> 00:23:22,357 ♪ I'm a little bit scared 552 00:23:22,444 --> 00:23:28,232 ♪ 'Cause I haven't been home in a long time... ♪ 553 00:23:28,276 --> 00:23:30,496 It's right up here. 554 00:23:30,583 --> 00:23:32,498 I think it's right up there. 555 00:23:32,585 --> 00:23:35,718 - This one? - No, it has a view, so it's 556 00:23:35,849 --> 00:23:38,373 - gotta be a little higher. - Okay. 557 00:23:38,504 --> 00:23:42,159 It has a view of the whole... downtown Los Angeles... 558 00:23:42,246 --> 00:23:44,074 - Oh, wow. - ...all the way to the beach. 559 00:23:44,161 --> 00:23:46,250 Did you have a room where you would work? 560 00:23:46,294 --> 00:23:48,339 The piano was in a sandbox. 561 00:23:48,383 --> 00:23:50,167 What was the idea behind that? 562 00:23:50,254 --> 00:23:54,389 I don't know, I just wanted to have a sandbox. 563 00:23:54,476 --> 00:23:55,738 - While you worked? - Yeah. 564 00:23:55,825 --> 00:23:57,523 Took our shoes and socks off... 565 00:23:57,610 --> 00:24:01,831 and wrote, you know, music on a piano in the sandbox. 566 00:24:01,962 --> 00:24:06,096 I put an Arabian tent up in my den, and I put, like, 567 00:24:06,183 --> 00:24:10,274 eight Tiffany lamps in my... in the living room, 568 00:24:10,361 --> 00:24:12,102 hanging from the ceiling. 569 00:24:12,189 --> 00:24:14,931 It was a trip. 570 00:24:14,975 --> 00:24:16,280 It sounds like it. 571 00:24:16,324 --> 00:24:18,544 What did you do inside the tent? 572 00:24:18,674 --> 00:24:20,154 - Smoked grass. - Uh-huh. 573 00:24:20,197 --> 00:24:22,983 Ate peanut butter and jelly sandwiches. 574 00:24:23,070 --> 00:24:26,900 You know. 575 00:24:26,987 --> 00:24:30,207 Young and rich. 576 00:24:30,294 --> 00:24:31,992 ♪ I'm glad I went ♪ 577 00:24:32,079 --> 00:24:36,344 ♪ Now I'm much that more sure that we're ready... ♪ 578 00:24:36,431 --> 00:24:40,435 That's where I wrote, uh, the "Pet Sounds" album... 579 00:24:40,522 --> 00:24:43,612 - and "Good Vibrations." - Wow. 580 00:24:43,656 --> 00:24:46,789 That's, that's some pretty big stuff you wrote up here. 581 00:24:46,876 --> 00:24:48,748 Yeah. 582 00:24:48,791 --> 00:24:50,314 So, you think you'd wanna tour more? 583 00:24:50,358 --> 00:24:53,230 Yeah, I like to go on the road. 584 00:24:53,317 --> 00:24:55,450 What do you like about it? 585 00:24:55,581 --> 00:24:56,799 - Well, the concerts. - Yup. 586 00:24:56,886 --> 00:24:58,758 Makes you feel good? 587 00:24:58,801 --> 00:25:00,934 Yeah. It's fun to play a concert. 588 00:25:01,064 --> 00:25:02,239 Mm-hmm. 589 00:25:04,981 --> 00:25:08,724 You used to get nervous, but not so much anymore, huh? 590 00:25:08,811 --> 00:25:12,423 No... before a concert, I got very nervous. 591 00:25:12,467 --> 00:25:15,035 How long does it take you to calm down onstage? 592 00:25:15,122 --> 00:25:16,776 About two minutes. 593 00:25:23,173 --> 00:25:25,219 To this day, Brian's still even a little bit, 594 00:25:25,262 --> 00:25:27,351 a little bit nervous about "Pet Sounds," you know? 595 00:25:27,438 --> 00:25:29,484 "Are they gonna like it?" You know, "Is it too soft?" 596 00:25:29,571 --> 00:25:31,834 "Is it, is it manly?", he'll say sometimes. 597 00:25:31,921 --> 00:25:34,228 Hello, Los Angeles! 598 00:25:34,271 --> 00:25:37,536 The Hollywood Bowl. 599 00:25:41,409 --> 00:25:46,109 ♪ Where did... your long hair go? ♪ 600 00:25:47,937 --> 00:25:52,072 ♪ Where is that girl I used to know? ♪ 601 00:25:54,291 --> 00:26:00,428 ♪ How could you lose that happy glow? ♪ 602 00:26:00,559 --> 00:26:04,084 ♪ Oh, Caroline, you know... ♪ 603 00:26:04,214 --> 00:26:06,477 Well, you have the great "Caroline, No." 604 00:26:06,521 --> 00:26:09,785 It's one of the greatest songs in, in pop history, 605 00:26:09,872 --> 00:26:13,223 as far as dealing with oncoming adulthood, 606 00:26:13,310 --> 00:26:18,054 loss of innocence, reckoning with the adult world... 607 00:26:18,098 --> 00:26:21,971 and the terrible heartache that comes along with it. 608 00:26:22,058 --> 00:26:24,757 ♪ But that's not true ♪ 609 00:26:24,844 --> 00:26:26,585 ♪ Well, Caroline, you... ♪ 610 00:26:34,810 --> 00:26:36,551 I can hear him exploring 611 00:26:36,682 --> 00:26:39,075 the possibilities of these songs 612 00:26:39,162 --> 00:26:42,339 that he probably woke up, dug his feet in the sand, 613 00:26:42,426 --> 00:26:43,906 and wrote these songs. 614 00:26:43,993 --> 00:26:50,521 ♪ Could I ever find in you again ♪ 615 00:26:50,565 --> 00:26:55,091 ♪ Things that made me love you so much then... ♪ 616 00:26:55,135 --> 00:26:56,876 He rounded out writing happy songs 617 00:26:56,919 --> 00:26:59,792 and then, as he grew as a musician, 618 00:26:59,922 --> 00:27:04,318 his tastes refined, his writing refined, 619 00:27:04,361 --> 00:27:06,712 and he wanted to get away from the three-chord thing 620 00:27:06,842 --> 00:27:10,019 and experiment, and when you do that, 621 00:27:10,106 --> 00:27:11,804 you are drawn to the darker side... I know I am. 622 00:27:11,891 --> 00:27:14,023 Brian's music, you know, especially "Pet Sounds," 623 00:27:14,110 --> 00:27:16,156 you never move on from it. 624 00:27:16,243 --> 00:27:18,462 I'll be listening to that record till the day I die. 625 00:27:18,549 --> 00:27:20,073 "Pet Sounds," 626 00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:23,380 the beauty of it... carries with it a sense of... 627 00:27:23,467 --> 00:27:26,122 joyfulness even in the pain of living. 628 00:27:26,166 --> 00:27:29,038 The joyfulness of an emotional life. 629 00:27:29,125 --> 00:27:31,737 You have this music bed that is so complex, 630 00:27:31,824 --> 00:27:33,477 but the lyrics were very simple. 631 00:27:33,564 --> 00:27:36,306 All these concepts of things that we all ask ourselves, 632 00:27:36,393 --> 00:27:37,307 and it's there forever. 633 00:27:37,394 --> 00:27:39,266 50 years later, we're still celebrating 634 00:27:39,353 --> 00:27:41,311 what is probably one of the greatest records ever made. 635 00:28:00,026 --> 00:28:03,551 Whoa! 636 00:28:03,638 --> 00:28:04,770 I don't even know what that is. 637 00:28:04,900 --> 00:28:07,816 Flutes in reverb? I don't know. 638 00:28:07,860 --> 00:28:10,906 ♪ ...without you... 639 00:28:11,037 --> 00:28:13,430 Whoa... 640 00:28:13,517 --> 00:28:18,087 ♪ God only knows what I'd be without you... ♪ 641 00:28:18,218 --> 00:28:21,308 ♪ God only knows what I'd be without you... ♪ 642 00:28:21,395 --> 00:28:24,615 ♪ Whoa, God only knows what I'd be without you... ♪ 643 00:28:24,659 --> 00:28:27,662 ♪ God only knows what I'd... 644 00:28:27,793 --> 00:28:30,012 - ♪ God only knows... - ♪ Bom bom bom... ♪ 645 00:28:30,143 --> 00:28:33,755 - ♪ What I'd be without you... - ♪ Whoo ooh... ♪ 646 00:28:33,842 --> 00:28:35,757 ♪ God only knows what I'd be... ♪ 647 00:28:35,844 --> 00:28:39,021 - ♪ God only knows... - ♪ Bom bom bom... ♪ 648 00:28:39,108 --> 00:28:41,328 - ♪ What I'd be without you - ♪ Whoo, ooh... ♪ 649 00:28:41,415 --> 00:28:43,156 - ♪ God only knows... - ♪ Bom bom bom... ♪ 650 00:28:43,243 --> 00:28:45,375 - ♪ What I'd be without you... - ♪ God only knows ♪ 651 00:28:45,462 --> 00:28:46,768 ♪ God only knows... ♪ 652 00:28:48,814 --> 00:28:50,250 I don't even know where to begin. 653 00:28:50,380 --> 00:28:52,469 Probably took a minute 654 00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:55,037 for everyone to wrap their heads around a 23-year-old kid 655 00:28:55,124 --> 00:28:57,387 coming in and telling 'em what was up. 656 00:28:59,389 --> 00:29:02,436 That's a banjo. It is a banjo, huh? 657 00:29:03,872 --> 00:29:06,266 Brian always had this thing where he used 658 00:29:06,396 --> 00:29:09,356 the fifth, uh, note of a chord as the bass note. 659 00:29:09,443 --> 00:29:11,488 "God Only Knows" is a prime example of that. 660 00:29:11,575 --> 00:29:14,013 ♪ I may not always... with the bass note. 661 00:29:14,100 --> 00:29:16,580 And "Someone Saved My Life Tonight" is exactly the same. 662 00:29:20,193 --> 00:29:22,064 So, you can, you can hear the other instruments. 663 00:29:22,151 --> 00:29:25,285 They're all in one room at the same time, playing. 664 00:29:28,505 --> 00:29:32,031 With Brian's music, you hear his spirit, and it's like... 665 00:29:32,074 --> 00:29:33,859 he may be playing a C chord, but there's, like, 666 00:29:33,989 --> 00:29:37,079 this other weird harmony drifting in over it. 667 00:29:37,166 --> 00:29:40,996 He's using the available tools that all of us have. 668 00:29:41,083 --> 00:29:42,737 You know, it may be a piano or a harpsichord 669 00:29:42,824 --> 00:29:45,653 or a guitar or whatever, but it's all in the architecture 670 00:29:45,740 --> 00:29:47,873 or the recording technique. 671 00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:49,526 So, everybody has a piano or a guitar. 672 00:29:49,613 --> 00:29:51,441 Go grab whatever the fuck you want, but it's like the way 673 00:29:51,528 --> 00:29:55,881 you put in the strangeness, that's what he's the master of. 674 00:29:55,968 --> 00:29:57,926 Listen to that basic track. 675 00:29:57,970 --> 00:30:03,323 Sounds to me like it's maybe a piano... and... a banjo... 676 00:30:03,410 --> 00:30:07,109 and a harmonica kinda all becoming one sound. 677 00:30:07,196 --> 00:30:11,331 Brian had to sit home, dream up these textures 678 00:30:11,418 --> 00:30:16,118 that no one had ever, ever used... uh... 679 00:30:16,205 --> 00:30:20,862 That's one reason why people say Brian's a genius. 680 00:30:20,906 --> 00:30:23,473 That's being a complete visionary, 681 00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:27,303 to dream up these textures that never existed before. 682 00:30:27,347 --> 00:30:30,089 I'm still awestruck by the construction. 683 00:30:30,176 --> 00:30:32,656 How he took very complex arrangements, 684 00:30:32,700 --> 00:30:34,745 and yet, at the end of the day, 685 00:30:34,789 --> 00:30:36,138 they sounded so simple 686 00:30:36,225 --> 00:30:37,531 when they, when they entered your ear. 687 00:30:37,574 --> 00:30:39,228 ♪ ...where I'd be without you... ♪ 688 00:30:39,315 --> 00:30:40,926 I think his imagination 689 00:30:41,013 --> 00:30:42,275 is what made him a great producer. 690 00:30:42,362 --> 00:30:46,453 We can all sit here and say we have all the technology 691 00:30:46,540 --> 00:30:48,020 and we know how to use it and we know how to do it, 692 00:30:48,107 --> 00:30:50,761 but the bottom line is it doesn't matter what you know, 693 00:30:50,805 --> 00:30:52,459 it's what's you're gonna do. 694 00:30:52,546 --> 00:30:56,245 - ♪ ...what I'd be without you - ♪ God only knows... ♪ 695 00:30:56,332 --> 00:30:58,726 I've been making records for... 40-some years, 696 00:30:58,857 --> 00:31:02,251 and I don't know how you do this. 697 00:31:02,338 --> 00:31:04,601 I don't know how you do that. 698 00:31:04,732 --> 00:31:07,387 Nobody knows...... how you do that. 699 00:31:07,474 --> 00:31:10,912 What I hear is his competitive nature, 700 00:31:10,999 --> 00:31:15,047 him wanting to be more than what everybody else was. 701 00:31:15,134 --> 00:31:17,049 And you can totally hear how he was trying 702 00:31:17,136 --> 00:31:19,834 to make things sound better than the Beatles. 703 00:31:19,921 --> 00:31:23,838 But I think, more so, his biggest competitor was himself. 704 00:31:23,925 --> 00:31:26,145 ♪ ...you... ♪ 705 00:31:26,188 --> 00:31:27,407 How was that, was that cool? 706 00:31:27,494 --> 00:31:29,496 - Yeah, it's beautiful. - All right. 707 00:31:29,583 --> 00:31:31,019 When he started doing the music around "Pet Sounds," 708 00:31:31,063 --> 00:31:35,589 which was... more complex, more orchestral, more personal... 709 00:31:35,632 --> 00:31:38,287 you know, the guys started saying, "Whoa now," you know? 710 00:31:38,374 --> 00:31:40,289 I mean, uh, "Where are we going with this?" 711 00:31:40,376 --> 00:31:42,770 You know, this isn't about cars and girls anymore. 712 00:31:42,901 --> 00:31:45,164 And things started to fragment. 713 00:31:45,207 --> 00:31:47,383 And I don't think it's any wonder that Brian 714 00:31:47,470 --> 00:31:50,517 started to lose his confidence around that time. 715 00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:11,320 When you think about recording or touring, do you feel 716 00:32:11,407 --> 00:32:14,367 like you still have something to accomplish musically? 717 00:32:14,454 --> 00:32:17,979 Do you still have things you want to get... you wanna do? 718 00:32:18,066 --> 00:32:19,546 Yeah, I might... wanna make a rock-and-roll album. 719 00:32:19,589 --> 00:32:20,764 Mm-hmm. 720 00:32:20,808 --> 00:32:22,941 Maybe something good, you know? 721 00:32:23,028 --> 00:32:24,420 Yeah. 722 00:32:24,464 --> 00:32:26,640 What's rock-and-roll to you? 723 00:32:26,683 --> 00:32:27,858 - Rock-and-roll? - Yeah. 724 00:32:27,902 --> 00:32:30,905 Chuck Berry... you know. 725 00:32:30,992 --> 00:32:33,821 - Little Richard. - Mm-hmm. 726 00:32:33,952 --> 00:32:36,041 Well, I recently watched 727 00:32:36,128 --> 00:32:39,131 - the "Smile" concert. - Yeah. 728 00:32:39,261 --> 00:32:40,871 Wow, you looked really happy that night. 729 00:32:40,915 --> 00:32:43,874 - Yeah, that was fun. - Was it hard to pull off? 730 00:32:43,918 --> 00:32:46,399 We, we premiered "Smile" and the "Lucky Old Sun" album 731 00:32:46,486 --> 00:32:49,228 2004 and 2005. 732 00:32:49,315 --> 00:32:52,796 When you let it go, when you stopped working on it in '67, 733 00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:54,929 was that a hard thing for you? 734 00:32:55,016 --> 00:32:56,191 Yeah, it was rough, yeah. 735 00:32:56,278 --> 00:32:59,281 Me and Van Dyke got so into it, you know. 736 00:32:59,368 --> 00:33:00,848 We really got into it. 737 00:33:00,935 --> 00:33:03,285 When you premiered "Smile," how did you feel? 738 00:33:03,372 --> 00:33:05,679 I mean, it must have been a big relief. 739 00:33:05,722 --> 00:33:08,116 Well, it was, it was a big challenge to try 740 00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:09,944 - to pull it off, you know? - Right. 741 00:33:10,031 --> 00:33:11,076 But we did. 742 00:33:11,163 --> 00:33:14,601 It went over very well. 743 00:33:14,731 --> 00:33:16,907 ♪ I've been in this town so long that back in the city ♪ 744 00:33:16,951 --> 00:33:19,475 ♪ I've been taken for lost and gone ♪ 745 00:33:19,519 --> 00:33:22,217 ♪ Unknown for a long, long time ♪ 746 00:33:22,304 --> 00:33:24,480 ♪ Doo, d-doo-doo-doo, doo-doo-doo-doo ♪ 747 00:33:24,567 --> 00:33:27,266 ♪ Fell in love years ago with an innocent girl ♪ 748 00:33:27,309 --> 00:33:30,138 ♪ From the Spanish and Indian home ♪ 749 00:33:30,182 --> 00:33:31,052 ♪ Of the heroes and villains... ♪ 750 00:33:31,096 --> 00:33:33,402 Around 2004, Brian decided 751 00:33:33,533 --> 00:33:36,710 that he was going to come back and work on "Smile," 752 00:33:36,797 --> 00:33:39,669 the, you know, most famous unreleased album of all time, 753 00:33:39,756 --> 00:33:41,976 something that he had abandoned around 1967, 754 00:33:42,063 --> 00:33:45,893 and, and I think, in retrospect, probably wisely, because it was 755 00:33:45,980 --> 00:33:48,417 proving to be insurmountable for all kinds of reasons. 756 00:33:48,504 --> 00:33:52,465 ♪ What a dude'll do in this town full of heroes and villains ♪ 757 00:33:52,552 --> 00:33:54,293 ♪ Doo-doo, she-Doobie-doo-wha... ♪ 758 00:33:54,380 --> 00:33:56,904 He was terrified, he didn't wanna do it... 759 00:33:57,035 --> 00:34:00,081 and then slowly, 760 00:34:00,168 --> 00:34:04,651 something about the music reconnected emotionally... 761 00:34:04,738 --> 00:34:07,567 ♪ Fell in love years ago with an innocent girl ♪ 762 00:34:07,697 --> 00:34:10,222 ♪ From the Spanish and Indian home... ♪ 763 00:34:10,309 --> 00:34:13,529 So, all those bad associations that he had 764 00:34:13,573 --> 00:34:15,488 were being replaced with good ones... 765 00:34:15,575 --> 00:34:19,318 ♪ Next time I'll leave my hat off... ♪ 766 00:34:19,361 --> 00:34:21,972 ...and it became more about the music again. 767 00:34:22,016 --> 00:34:25,019 ♪ Heroes and villains 768 00:34:25,106 --> 00:34:29,806 ♪ Just see what you've done ♪ 769 00:34:29,893 --> 00:34:31,591 ♪ Doo doo doo doo... ♪ 770 00:34:31,721 --> 00:34:33,680 Some of the stuff on that record was pretty wild, on "Smile." 771 00:34:33,767 --> 00:34:35,943 Yeah, some of that stuff was pretty complicated. 772 00:34:36,030 --> 00:34:38,032 - Yeah. - Complex. 773 00:34:38,163 --> 00:34:40,034 Mm-hmm. Well, why'd you let it go? 774 00:34:40,165 --> 00:34:43,081 We thought... it was a little ahead of its time. 775 00:34:43,168 --> 00:34:44,386 - Right. - We waited for, like, 776 00:34:44,517 --> 00:34:46,910 30 years... and we... 777 00:34:46,997 --> 00:34:48,912 finally finished it. 778 00:34:48,999 --> 00:34:53,613 ♪ La la la la, la la la la la, la la, la la la la la la... ♪ 779 00:34:53,743 --> 00:34:56,703 It became something that was living now, 780 00:34:56,790 --> 00:34:59,401 as opposed to something that was dead in his mind. 781 00:34:59,532 --> 00:35:01,838 We're not picking up all your notes. 782 00:35:01,925 --> 00:35:03,623 Well, feel... you can feel it, but you can't really hear it. 783 00:35:03,710 --> 00:35:06,756 In fact, we couldn't bring up that stuff... 784 00:35:06,843 --> 00:35:08,541 We couldn't even say the words "Heroes and Villains..." 785 00:35:08,628 --> 00:35:11,544 Yeah, 'cause he would freak out. 786 00:35:11,631 --> 00:35:13,067 What now? 787 00:35:13,154 --> 00:35:14,590 God, there are so many parts to this damn song. 788 00:35:16,201 --> 00:35:17,811 It's endless, it's endless and endless and endless. 789 00:35:17,854 --> 00:35:19,160 It never ends! 790 00:35:27,037 --> 00:35:28,648 ♪ La la la la, la la... 791 00:35:28,778 --> 00:35:30,476 When you listen to "Smile" 792 00:35:30,519 --> 00:35:33,609 with that ear of hearing how segmental it was, 793 00:35:33,653 --> 00:35:36,438 and yet how seamlessly he put it together, 794 00:35:36,525 --> 00:35:38,832 it's quite wonderful. 795 00:35:38,875 --> 00:35:40,660 ♪ There shall be peace in the valley ♪ 796 00:35:40,790 --> 00:35:43,141 ♪ And it's all an affair of my life ♪ 797 00:35:43,228 --> 00:35:45,752 ♪ With the heroes and villains ♪ 798 00:35:45,839 --> 00:35:48,755 I remember sitting with him, and I handed him the, the CD, 799 00:35:48,842 --> 00:35:51,018 and I said, "Brian, that's 'Smile,' you finished it." 800 00:35:51,105 --> 00:35:53,760 You know, I could really see it meant something to him, 801 00:35:53,847 --> 00:35:56,589 because it was a disappointment that he'd been carrying around. 802 00:35:56,676 --> 00:35:59,374 Being able to finish it at last, 803 00:35:59,461 --> 00:36:01,550 even though it was 30 years later, 804 00:36:01,637 --> 00:36:03,813 was a big moment in his life. 805 00:36:03,900 --> 00:36:06,076 ♪ Da-Doobie-Doobie-da ♪ 806 00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:09,471 ♪ Doobie-Doobie-doo-wah... 807 00:36:12,866 --> 00:36:18,045 Do you still get ideas for different ways to produce... 808 00:36:18,132 --> 00:36:20,134 - Who, me? - ...things, sounds... yeah. 809 00:36:20,221 --> 00:36:21,657 Well, usually, you know, 810 00:36:21,701 --> 00:36:23,485 recording's a little slower these days. 811 00:36:23,572 --> 00:36:26,053 - Mm-hmm. - You know? 812 00:36:26,184 --> 00:36:28,273 What's your process like? 813 00:36:28,403 --> 00:36:30,057 - The process? - Yeah. 814 00:36:30,188 --> 00:36:31,580 Start with a background track... 815 00:36:31,667 --> 00:36:33,887 - Mm-hmm. - ...then you do the... 816 00:36:33,930 --> 00:36:36,498 background vocals, then you do the leads. 817 00:36:36,585 --> 00:36:39,849 - Okay. - Like we'll do today. 818 00:36:41,677 --> 00:36:44,202 - Will I be on keys? - That's correct. 819 00:36:46,726 --> 00:36:48,684 What's been making you feel like 820 00:36:48,728 --> 00:36:50,686 making a rock-and-roll record? 821 00:36:50,730 --> 00:36:53,907 Uh, I don't know... well, actually, 822 00:36:53,950 --> 00:36:56,388 "Summer Days and Summer Nights" was a rock-and-roll album. 823 00:36:56,475 --> 00:36:58,433 - Yup. - But I'd like to do another one 824 00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:00,522 with, with, uh, covers... 825 00:37:00,609 --> 00:37:01,741 - Mm-hmm... - Instead of originals. 826 00:37:01,871 --> 00:37:03,308 - Mm-hmm. - Is your click okay? 827 00:37:13,361 --> 00:37:16,103 How do you feel about spending a few days with your band? 828 00:37:16,190 --> 00:37:18,453 I think it'll be nice to be back with 'em, you know? 829 00:37:18,540 --> 00:37:21,500 It about time we all recorded like this. 830 00:37:25,068 --> 00:37:26,983 And we are here. 831 00:37:27,070 --> 00:37:28,246 - I'm nervous. - It's like you say 832 00:37:28,333 --> 00:37:29,464 when you go on stage, 833 00:37:29,551 --> 00:37:30,987 nervous for about two minutes. 834 00:37:31,074 --> 00:37:32,206 Right, and then as soon 835 00:37:32,337 --> 00:37:33,599 as I hear "California Girls," 836 00:37:33,686 --> 00:37:35,557 I'm cool. 837 00:37:35,644 --> 00:37:36,950 - One, two... - You got this. 838 00:37:36,993 --> 00:37:38,430 ...one, two, three. 839 00:37:40,475 --> 00:37:41,955 ♪ Doo, doo... right there. 840 00:37:41,998 --> 00:37:43,696 One, two, three... 841 00:37:45,219 --> 00:37:47,003 ♪ Duh-duh ♪ 842 00:37:47,134 --> 00:37:50,224 - Then... - No, on that "duh." 843 00:37:50,355 --> 00:37:52,313 - Are you sure it's that? - Yeah. 844 00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:54,794 Yeah, that's it. 845 00:38:00,016 --> 00:38:01,017 I'll play the piano. 846 00:38:01,104 --> 00:38:03,455 Yeah! Now we're talking! 847 00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:06,371 - Hi, Russ. - How you doing, Brian? 848 00:38:06,501 --> 00:38:08,460 - I'm good, how are you? - Doing all right. 849 00:38:15,684 --> 00:38:17,469 Okay. 850 00:38:22,604 --> 00:38:24,389 Hi, Tom. 851 00:38:24,519 --> 00:38:26,347 - Hi, Brian. - How are ya? 852 00:38:26,434 --> 00:38:27,522 - Good, how are you? - Good. 853 00:38:27,609 --> 00:38:30,830 We need a click, Wes. 854 00:38:30,917 --> 00:38:33,049 It's coming. 855 00:38:33,136 --> 00:38:34,268 What's coming? 856 00:38:34,355 --> 00:38:36,357 - The click. - Oh. 857 00:38:38,054 --> 00:38:39,317 Okay, it's cool. 858 00:38:39,404 --> 00:38:40,753 The click'll help ya! 859 00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:42,058 Okay. 860 00:38:42,145 --> 00:38:44,060 One, two, three. 861 00:38:46,193 --> 00:38:47,934 - Paul - Yeah? 862 00:38:48,021 --> 00:38:50,415 It's just... 863 00:38:53,548 --> 00:38:56,116 No... 864 00:38:56,203 --> 00:38:57,291 Okay. 865 00:38:57,378 --> 00:38:59,206 One, two, three. 866 00:39:08,433 --> 00:39:10,043 - Hey, Paul. - Yeah? 867 00:39:10,086 --> 00:39:11,087 Play staccato. 868 00:39:11,174 --> 00:39:13,525 - Bah, bah, bah. - Okay. 869 00:39:15,396 --> 00:39:17,006 - Yeah. - Ooh. 870 00:39:17,137 --> 00:39:19,531 One, two, three, four. 871 00:39:22,882 --> 00:39:25,798 Hold it! The guitar sounds a little fuzzy. 872 00:39:25,885 --> 00:39:28,453 See if that's better. 873 00:39:28,540 --> 00:39:31,325 Okay, one, two, three, four. 874 00:39:33,109 --> 00:39:34,372 Yeah, we're cool. 875 00:39:34,459 --> 00:39:36,983 - Let's try it once. - Okay. 876 00:39:37,070 --> 00:39:40,378 One... two... one, two, three. 877 00:40:07,709 --> 00:40:10,669 Two, a-one, two, three, four. 878 00:40:26,728 --> 00:40:28,904 Yeah, it can fall apart, that's cool. 879 00:40:28,991 --> 00:40:30,515 - Sounded pretty good. - I think that's a print! 880 00:40:30,645 --> 00:40:32,604 Wanna go in, wanna go in the booth. 881 00:40:32,691 --> 00:40:34,606 Can we come in the booth and hear it? 882 00:40:34,693 --> 00:40:37,086 - Yes. - Okay. 883 00:40:54,190 --> 00:40:55,670 Listen, syncopate it a little. 884 00:40:55,757 --> 00:40:56,976 - Oh. - Yeah, what are the words? 885 00:40:57,063 --> 00:40:59,195 - I don't know. - Sing it. 886 00:40:59,282 --> 00:41:00,762 ♪ Since you put me down, I've been arguing in my head... ♪ 887 00:41:00,849 --> 00:41:01,937 All right, let me hear... sing it, sing it. 888 00:41:01,981 --> 00:41:03,635 - ♪ Since you put me down... - No. 889 00:41:03,722 --> 00:41:05,201 ♪ Since you put me down ♪ 890 00:41:08,204 --> 00:41:10,511 - Sing the words, Murry. - Okay, I can't. 891 00:41:13,209 --> 00:41:14,863 Loosen up. 892 00:41:14,950 --> 00:41:17,344 Loosen up, sweetie, loosen up. 893 00:41:17,431 --> 00:41:20,565 My dad, uh, owned the publishing with Brian, 894 00:41:20,695 --> 00:41:22,784 and he managed the group for 10 percent. 895 00:41:22,915 --> 00:41:24,569 I just remember, there was a lot of tension, 896 00:41:24,699 --> 00:41:27,659 uh, with my dad and Brian. 897 00:41:27,789 --> 00:41:29,530 You guys think you're good? 898 00:41:29,574 --> 00:41:31,445 Can we hear a chord? 899 00:41:31,532 --> 00:41:34,013 Just a chord, like we used to. 900 00:41:34,100 --> 00:41:37,320 When you used to sing clear records, okay? Let's go. 901 00:41:37,364 --> 00:41:38,757 His presence was very... 902 00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:40,802 where he'd burst into a room, you know? 903 00:41:40,889 --> 00:41:42,543 And beat everyone up. 904 00:41:42,587 --> 00:41:44,763 I got beaten around by my dad. 905 00:41:44,806 --> 00:41:46,634 One kinda spanking is... 906 00:41:46,678 --> 00:41:49,594 But the way I had it, Dad would double over his belt. 907 00:41:49,681 --> 00:41:51,465 His voice... 908 00:41:51,552 --> 00:41:53,206 ...very, very hard. 909 00:41:53,249 --> 00:41:54,468 Pretty tough business. 910 00:41:54,599 --> 00:41:57,166 His dad was extremely tough on him... 911 00:41:57,253 --> 00:41:59,125 um, abusive at times. 912 00:41:59,212 --> 00:42:00,561 You can hear this in, in all the old tapes 913 00:42:00,605 --> 00:42:01,910 from those studio sessions, 914 00:42:01,997 --> 00:42:03,477 where his dad takes it way too far. 915 00:42:03,564 --> 00:42:05,218 We just wanna be sure this is our thing. 916 00:42:05,261 --> 00:42:07,612 This is an absolute insult. 917 00:42:07,699 --> 00:42:09,222 Well, you're doing the same to me 918 00:42:09,265 --> 00:42:11,006 in front of 20 people. 919 00:42:11,050 --> 00:42:12,530 I'm sorry, I'll never help you guys... 920 00:42:12,617 --> 00:42:15,750 - Why? - Because you don't appreciate 921 00:42:15,837 --> 00:42:18,405 the good help I have given you. 922 00:42:18,492 --> 00:42:20,625 - We don't appreciate the help. - A beautiful gift, and when 923 00:42:20,712 --> 00:42:22,148 - you guys start coming off... - Okay. 924 00:42:22,235 --> 00:42:23,715 Now, listen, let me tell you something. 925 00:42:23,802 --> 00:42:26,326 - Yes. - When you guys get so big 926 00:42:26,369 --> 00:42:28,589 that you can't sing from your hearts, you're going downhill. 927 00:42:28,676 --> 00:42:31,070 - Downhill? - Down... hill! 928 00:42:31,157 --> 00:42:35,770 ♪ How deep is the ocean? ♪ 929 00:42:36,597 --> 00:42:40,645 ♪ How deep is the ocean? 930 00:42:40,732 --> 00:42:44,649 ♪ Aah... ♪ 931 00:42:44,779 --> 00:42:46,085 And as we got older, we told him 932 00:42:46,215 --> 00:42:47,434 we didn't want him to manage us anymore. 933 00:42:47,521 --> 00:42:49,044 It's very simple. 934 00:42:49,088 --> 00:42:50,959 He got to the point 935 00:42:51,046 --> 00:42:52,221 where he was so overbearing to work with him 936 00:42:52,308 --> 00:42:53,701 that we had to fire him. 937 00:42:53,745 --> 00:42:58,097 ♪ I'm a rock in a landslide 938 00:42:58,184 --> 00:43:03,885 ♪ Rolling over the mountainside ♪ 939 00:43:03,972 --> 00:43:08,673 ♪ How deep is the valley? ♪ 940 00:43:09,587 --> 00:43:14,417 ♪ How deep is the valley? 941 00:43:14,461 --> 00:43:15,897 ♪ Aah... 942 00:43:15,984 --> 00:43:18,683 ♪ It kills my soul ♪ 943 00:43:18,770 --> 00:43:25,864 ♪ Hey, hey, hey... ♪ 944 00:43:25,951 --> 00:43:29,128 Why did you move from Laurel Way to Bellagio? 945 00:43:29,258 --> 00:43:32,697 Marilyn wanted to move to Bel Air. 946 00:43:32,827 --> 00:43:34,655 Was it a bigger house? 947 00:43:34,699 --> 00:43:36,091 - What, Bellagio? - Yeah. 948 00:43:36,135 --> 00:43:38,616 - Much bigger. - Much bigger, I see. 949 00:43:41,227 --> 00:43:44,099 - There's Bellagio Road. - Oh, yeah. 950 00:43:44,143 --> 00:43:46,841 You wrote the directions to this house 951 00:43:46,928 --> 00:43:48,713 in a song, "Busy Doin' Nothin'." 952 00:43:48,843 --> 00:43:50,236 Right. 953 00:43:50,323 --> 00:43:52,368 What inspired you to tell people where you live? 954 00:43:52,455 --> 00:43:55,154 I don't know, jeez, I don't... 955 00:43:55,241 --> 00:43:57,156 ♪ Drive for a couple miles ♪ 956 00:43:57,243 --> 00:44:01,160 ♪ You see a sign and turn left, for a couple blocks ♪ 957 00:44:01,290 --> 00:44:05,120 ♪ Next is mine, you'll turn left on a little road... ♪ 958 00:44:05,164 --> 00:44:07,688 Check it out. It was right here. 959 00:44:07,775 --> 00:44:09,603 ♪ You'll see a white fence... ♪ 960 00:44:09,734 --> 00:44:12,475 Yeah, you can't see much, can you? 961 00:44:12,562 --> 00:44:14,739 But that's a beautiful house back there? 962 00:44:14,826 --> 00:44:16,958 Have a swimming pool and a backyard? 963 00:44:17,045 --> 00:44:18,873 Oh, yeah, we had that specially built. 964 00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:22,050 - Wow. - A very big pool. 965 00:44:22,181 --> 00:44:25,097 I had, like, a den that we built a recording studio. 966 00:44:25,184 --> 00:44:27,229 - You remember that? - Yeah. 967 00:44:27,273 --> 00:44:30,668 It was a really state-of-the-art studio too, I think. 968 00:44:30,755 --> 00:44:32,321 Oh, it was a fantastic studio. 969 00:44:32,408 --> 00:44:33,235 - Mm-hmm. - Great. 970 00:44:35,411 --> 00:44:38,066 The Mamas and the Papas came over one time. 971 00:44:38,153 --> 00:44:39,502 - Oh, really? - Yeah. 972 00:44:39,546 --> 00:44:41,722 Did you record together? 973 00:44:41,809 --> 00:44:45,987 No, they just came over one night, John and Michelle... 974 00:44:46,074 --> 00:44:47,772 ...came over one night... 975 00:44:47,859 --> 00:44:51,079 - in the '70s. - Uh-huh. 976 00:44:51,166 --> 00:44:52,646 - Little Richard came over. - Really? 977 00:44:52,733 --> 00:44:53,995 Yeah. 978 00:44:54,082 --> 00:44:56,084 Sly from the Family Stone came over. 979 00:44:56,171 --> 00:44:58,217 What? Okay... you gotta tell me about that. 980 00:44:58,304 --> 00:45:01,089 I don't remember, I just know he fell asleep on a couch. 981 00:45:02,917 --> 00:45:03,788 I think he was snortin'... 982 00:45:03,918 --> 00:45:04,963 - Oh. - Cocaine. 983 00:45:05,006 --> 00:45:07,356 - And he fell asleep? - Yeah. 984 00:45:08,749 --> 00:45:09,576 Did he come over to party 985 00:45:09,663 --> 00:45:11,317 or to record or just to visit? 986 00:45:11,404 --> 00:45:12,666 - Just to visit. - What was the vibe? 987 00:45:12,753 --> 00:45:14,015 Terry Melcher brought him over... 988 00:45:14,102 --> 00:45:15,930 - Okay. - ...to visit. 989 00:45:16,017 --> 00:45:18,585 - Sly seemed like a cool cat. - Who, Sly? 990 00:45:18,672 --> 00:45:19,934 - Yeah. - Yeah. 991 00:45:20,021 --> 00:45:21,806 - He was good. - Oh, yeah. 992 00:45:21,936 --> 00:45:24,243 - "Hot Fun in the Summertime"? - Oh, man. 993 00:45:24,330 --> 00:45:25,897 Heavy duty. 994 00:45:26,027 --> 00:45:27,246 Is this the house where Elton came over? 995 00:45:27,333 --> 00:45:28,813 Yeah. 996 00:45:28,943 --> 00:45:30,249 Going to Brian Wilson's house 997 00:45:30,336 --> 00:45:32,077 with Danny Hutton of Three Dog Night 998 00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:33,818 was just the most amazing, surreal trip for me. 999 00:45:33,948 --> 00:45:36,603 Here we are, in Brian Wilson's house, 1000 00:45:36,690 --> 00:45:39,040 who we used to lay on the floor and listen in our headphones 1001 00:45:39,171 --> 00:45:40,825 to all his beautiful music. 1002 00:45:40,912 --> 00:45:45,481 It was... one of the most moving nights of my life... 1003 00:45:45,568 --> 00:45:47,179 and he tried to sell me his piano as well. 1004 00:45:48,615 --> 00:45:50,573 But, um, to that time, 1005 00:45:50,660 --> 00:45:53,620 he went through such a dark period of his life. 1006 00:45:53,707 --> 00:45:56,188 So, Bellagio is kinda where... 1007 00:45:56,275 --> 00:45:57,929 things got difficult for you, huh? 1008 00:45:58,016 --> 00:46:00,496 - Yeah. - What was going on? 1009 00:46:00,627 --> 00:46:04,805 Uh... I was just... kinda lonesome and, you know... 1010 00:46:04,849 --> 00:46:08,678 hung out in my bedroom for a while. 1011 00:46:08,722 --> 00:46:10,506 What were you staying in your bedroom for? 1012 00:46:10,637 --> 00:46:12,639 I don't really know. I was having mental problems. 1013 00:46:12,726 --> 00:46:14,597 Yeah. Yeah. 1014 00:46:14,684 --> 00:46:16,034 And everyone always says, 1015 00:46:16,121 --> 00:46:17,035 "Oh, you stayed in your bedroom for years." 1016 00:46:17,078 --> 00:46:18,297 You didn't really do that. 1017 00:46:18,384 --> 00:46:20,647 - No, for a couple of weeks. - Yeah. 1018 00:46:25,173 --> 00:46:27,088 Sometimes you question yourself, 1019 00:46:27,219 --> 00:46:29,264 and I think, especially when you grapple with demons, 1020 00:46:29,308 --> 00:46:31,049 and you think, "Well, do I deserve this? 1021 00:46:31,092 --> 00:46:32,746 Am I worthy of this?" 1022 00:46:32,833 --> 00:46:36,184 And, you know, I think about Brian being saddled 1023 00:46:36,271 --> 00:46:39,753 with... the term "genius" 1024 00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:41,276 from such an early age. 1025 00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:43,757 That's gotta weigh on you so much. 1026 00:46:43,844 --> 00:46:47,195 ♪ Lost my way... ♪ 1027 00:46:47,326 --> 00:46:48,631 I think about someone like Brian, 1028 00:46:48,718 --> 00:46:51,025 and, and coming into this when he was becoming a man 1029 00:46:51,112 --> 00:46:54,028 and really starting to make the music 1030 00:46:54,115 --> 00:46:56,422 that would change the world in a lot of ways. 1031 00:46:56,509 --> 00:46:57,553 And the pressure that comes with that. 1032 00:46:57,640 --> 00:46:59,033 You know, the, the pressure 1033 00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:01,253 to continue to perform at that level 1034 00:47:01,340 --> 00:47:03,081 and continue to be the person 1035 00:47:03,168 --> 00:47:06,127 that people think you are supposed to be. 1036 00:47:06,214 --> 00:47:08,564 You know, you deal with a lot of disappointment. 1037 00:47:08,651 --> 00:47:12,873 Expectations are the foundation for disappointment. 1038 00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:16,485 ♪ ...when there's no morning ♪ 1039 00:47:16,572 --> 00:47:19,793 ♪ Without you ♪ 1040 00:47:19,924 --> 00:47:22,709 ♪ There's only darkness ♪ 1041 00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:26,278 ♪ The whole day through ♪ 1042 00:47:26,365 --> 00:47:27,888 Most people in the music business 1043 00:47:27,975 --> 00:47:30,673 are a little crazy in a variety of different ways. 1044 00:47:30,717 --> 00:47:32,153 I think you wish for the people 1045 00:47:32,284 --> 00:47:34,982 who delivered so much to you, 1046 00:47:35,026 --> 00:47:39,595 you wish them happiness and a long life. 1047 00:47:39,682 --> 00:47:40,901 You know, if you see someone 1048 00:47:40,945 --> 00:47:42,685 who's going through a lot of pain, 1049 00:47:42,772 --> 00:47:45,775 you wish, like, hey, nothing but good things. 1050 00:47:45,819 --> 00:47:48,735 ♪ All these memories 1051 00:47:48,866 --> 00:47:54,959 ♪ Made me feel like stone ♪ 1052 00:47:55,046 --> 00:47:59,354 ♪ All these people ♪ 1053 00:47:59,398 --> 00:48:02,270 ♪ Make me feel so alone... 1054 00:48:02,357 --> 00:48:03,968 I think it's safe to say 1055 00:48:04,055 --> 00:48:07,667 that creative people are usually sensitive people. 1056 00:48:07,710 --> 00:48:12,150 That door to drugs and alcohol is an easy door to walk through. 1057 00:48:12,237 --> 00:48:14,804 Brian Wilson was crying for help a long time ago. 1058 00:48:14,848 --> 00:48:18,634 He put it in there, under this happiness. 1059 00:48:18,721 --> 00:48:21,202 It is like the Mona Lisa. 1060 00:48:21,289 --> 00:48:23,988 His tones that he chose, or those harmonies, 1061 00:48:24,118 --> 00:48:26,381 were there on purpose. 1062 00:48:26,425 --> 00:48:29,080 Was this him calling out that "I need help"? 1063 00:48:29,167 --> 00:48:35,216 ♪ Midnight's another day... ♪ 1064 00:48:35,303 --> 00:48:37,436 Remember the song "Long Promised Road"? 1065 00:48:37,523 --> 00:48:38,654 Of course. 1066 00:48:38,741 --> 00:48:40,352 Carl recorded it there, at Bellagio House. 1067 00:48:40,439 --> 00:48:42,310 - Uh-huh. - At our house. 1068 00:48:42,397 --> 00:48:45,096 And he had me come down to sing part of the bridge. 1069 00:48:45,183 --> 00:48:46,619 - Mm-hmm. - So, okay... 1070 00:48:46,662 --> 00:48:49,143 ♪ Long promised road.. and I went... 1071 00:48:49,230 --> 00:48:51,102 ♪ Bah-bah-bah-bah... ♪ 1072 00:48:51,189 --> 00:48:52,538 I wrote that part. 1073 00:48:52,625 --> 00:48:53,800 You kinda came down from your bedroom and did that 1074 00:48:53,931 --> 00:48:55,106 and then went back up. 1075 00:48:55,193 --> 00:48:56,237 Yeah. 1076 00:48:56,368 --> 00:48:57,673 ♪ Long promised road... ♪ 1077 00:48:57,760 --> 00:48:58,979 ♪ Bah-bah-bah-bah ♪ 1078 00:48:59,023 --> 00:49:00,676 ♪ Trail starts at dawn 1079 00:49:00,763 --> 00:49:05,725 ♪ Carries on to the season's ending ♪ 1080 00:49:05,812 --> 00:49:08,771 ♪ Long promised road... ♪ 1081 00:49:08,858 --> 00:49:10,121 Carl and Dennis were, were 1082 00:49:10,208 --> 00:49:11,426 really different guys, weren't they? 1083 00:49:11,470 --> 00:49:14,386 Yeah, Carl was a little easier-going. 1084 00:49:14,473 --> 00:49:15,909 Dennis was a little more hyper. 1085 00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:17,780 - Mm-hmm. - Carl was like... 1086 00:49:17,867 --> 00:49:19,217 easygoing kind of a person, you know? 1087 00:49:19,260 --> 00:49:20,392 Mm-hmm. 1088 00:49:20,479 --> 00:49:24,135 I was listening to Dennis's record recently. 1089 00:49:24,265 --> 00:49:25,266 - Oh, "Pacific Ocean Blue"? - Wow. 1090 00:49:25,397 --> 00:49:26,398 I have never heard his album. 1091 00:49:26,485 --> 00:49:28,356 - Oh, man... - I heard... 1092 00:49:28,443 --> 00:49:31,620 ♪ I'll never make the headlines or... and the evening news ♪ 1093 00:49:31,707 --> 00:49:34,188 - Mm-hmm. - I... I heard that one. 1094 00:49:34,275 --> 00:49:36,016 - Yup. - But I, I think there's, like, 1095 00:49:36,103 --> 00:49:37,800 11 or 12 that I haven't heard yet. 1096 00:49:37,887 --> 00:49:39,150 Oh, my God, "River Song"? 1097 00:49:39,237 --> 00:49:40,847 - Did you ever hear that one? - No. 1098 00:49:40,934 --> 00:49:42,283 Let's listen to it when we get back to your house. 1099 00:49:42,414 --> 00:49:43,502 Is it, like, pretty cool? 1100 00:49:43,589 --> 00:49:44,982 It's amazing... 1101 00:49:45,069 --> 00:49:46,635 He made good music, didn't he? 1102 00:49:46,722 --> 00:49:47,636 He sure did. 1103 00:49:47,723 --> 00:49:49,812 The record is... really spectacular. 1104 00:49:49,856 --> 00:49:51,379 You're gonna love it. 1105 00:49:51,466 --> 00:49:53,077 I'm surprised you never heard it. 1106 00:49:53,164 --> 00:49:54,513 No, I haven't. 1107 00:49:54,643 --> 00:49:57,864 - After you had left Marilyn... - Right. 1108 00:49:57,951 --> 00:49:59,648 ...and you were living in Pacific Palisades, 1109 00:49:59,735 --> 00:50:01,955 that's when you were hanging out with Dennis a lot, right? 1110 00:50:02,042 --> 00:50:04,740 No, actually I was hanging out with Dennis in Venice. 1111 00:50:04,871 --> 00:50:06,916 Oh, in Venice, at his place? 1112 00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:07,961 Yeah, he used to play drums 1113 00:50:08,048 --> 00:50:09,441 - and I'd play organ. - Mm-hmm. 1114 00:50:09,528 --> 00:50:10,877 We used to fool around together. 1115 00:50:11,008 --> 00:50:12,444 - Mm-hmm. - You know? 1116 00:50:12,531 --> 00:50:15,751 - He was a, a good drummer. - Yeah, he was. 1117 00:50:15,882 --> 00:50:17,536 You were really close friends with Dennis. 1118 00:50:17,666 --> 00:50:21,540 Because we snorted cocaine together. 1119 00:50:21,627 --> 00:50:23,498 He used to buy cocaine for me. 1120 00:50:23,542 --> 00:50:25,022 Mm-hmm. 1121 00:50:25,109 --> 00:50:27,285 You know what he used to do? 1122 00:50:27,328 --> 00:50:30,505 He carried around a big, huge bottle, 1123 00:50:30,549 --> 00:50:34,640 plastic bottle of grapefruit juice and vodka. 1124 00:50:34,683 --> 00:50:36,294 Wow. 1125 00:50:36,381 --> 00:50:38,078 And he would stay drunk the whole day. 1126 00:50:38,165 --> 00:50:40,907 He was crazy. Crazy guy. 1127 00:50:40,994 --> 00:50:43,344 You think that was 'cause he was anxious and nervous? 1128 00:50:43,431 --> 00:50:45,216 Yeah, he, he's always been, like, a... 1129 00:50:45,346 --> 00:50:46,565 little bit nervous person, you know? 1130 00:50:46,652 --> 00:50:47,696 Mm-hmm. 1131 00:50:47,783 --> 00:50:49,959 But he was such a sweet guy too, right? 1132 00:50:50,003 --> 00:50:51,091 Didn't he have a big heart? 1133 00:50:51,135 --> 00:50:52,745 Oh, he sure did, yeah. 1134 00:50:52,788 --> 00:50:55,269 - I like his song "Forever." - Oh, yeah, oh, my God. 1135 00:50:55,356 --> 00:50:57,663 - That was beautiful. - So beautiful. 1136 00:51:02,276 --> 00:51:04,452 Yeah, I miss him. 1137 00:51:07,368 --> 00:51:13,809 ♪ If every word I said could make you laugh ♪ 1138 00:51:13,940 --> 00:51:16,812 ♪ I'd talk forever... ♪ 1139 00:51:16,943 --> 00:51:21,034 Brian's relationship with his brothers, he loved them so much. 1140 00:51:21,121 --> 00:51:24,907 ♪ I ask the sky just what we had ♪ 1141 00:51:24,951 --> 00:51:29,477 ♪ Mmm... it shone forever 1142 00:51:29,564 --> 00:51:32,698 Carl was just a nice, soft person, 1143 00:51:32,785 --> 00:51:34,743 and he was the peacekeeper in the family, 1144 00:51:34,830 --> 00:51:37,050 and Brian was the genius, the introvert, 1145 00:51:37,181 --> 00:51:40,488 and Dennis was probably everything Brian wanted to be. 1146 00:51:40,575 --> 00:51:43,709 And Brian was everything Dennis wanted to be. 1147 00:51:43,796 --> 00:51:47,756 And there in the middle you get that beautiful tug and pull. 1148 00:51:47,843 --> 00:51:50,281 Beautiful brotherly relationship. 1149 00:51:50,368 --> 00:51:53,501 ♪ Forever... ♪ 1150 00:51:53,588 --> 00:51:56,025 This is just his little brother talking, 1151 00:51:56,069 --> 00:51:57,766 but to see Brian on stage 1152 00:51:57,853 --> 00:51:59,551 and see all the people respond to Brian 1153 00:51:59,638 --> 00:52:02,031 is so overwhelming, it's so wonderful. 1154 00:52:02,075 --> 00:52:04,251 To listen to a Brian Wilson composition, 1155 00:52:04,295 --> 00:52:06,558 the only thing stemming from that, the roots, is the love. 1156 00:52:06,645 --> 00:52:08,299 It's, it's love. 1157 00:52:08,386 --> 00:52:11,650 - ♪ Ooh... - ♪ Together, my love... ♪ 1158 00:52:15,958 --> 00:52:18,004 What you gonna have at the deli? 1159 00:52:18,091 --> 00:52:19,875 Good question. 1160 00:52:19,962 --> 00:52:21,790 Possibly a Cobb salad. 1161 00:52:21,877 --> 00:52:23,140 What about you? 1162 00:52:23,227 --> 00:52:26,186 Cobb salad for me. 1163 00:52:26,273 --> 00:52:29,450 Yeah, today was fun, I liked it. 1164 00:52:32,584 --> 00:52:35,413 When you were... when you had the Radiant Radish, 1165 00:52:35,500 --> 00:52:37,110 you'd actually work in the shop, wouldn't you? 1166 00:52:37,197 --> 00:52:39,112 I worked there. 1167 00:52:39,199 --> 00:52:40,418 Did you know a lot of information 1168 00:52:40,461 --> 00:52:43,334 - about health foods and stuff? - No. 1169 00:52:43,421 --> 00:52:45,249 A friend of mine was, though, yeah. 1170 00:52:45,336 --> 00:52:47,207 - I ran the cash register. - Mm-hmm. 1171 00:52:47,251 --> 00:52:49,253 I learned how to do a cash register. 1172 00:52:49,340 --> 00:52:51,168 - That's fun. - Guess who I met there. 1173 00:52:51,255 --> 00:52:53,170 - Who? - Jack Riley. 1174 00:52:53,257 --> 00:52:54,432 - Really? - Yeah. 1175 00:52:54,475 --> 00:52:56,042 That's where you met him the first time? 1176 00:52:56,173 --> 00:52:58,566 - Yeah. - Wow. And he ended up 1177 00:52:58,653 --> 00:53:00,351 managing the Beach Boys, right? 1178 00:53:00,438 --> 00:53:03,223 It was his idea to go to Holland. 1179 00:53:03,267 --> 00:53:04,485 What was that like? 1180 00:53:04,572 --> 00:53:06,400 - It was a trip. - Mm-hmm. 1181 00:53:06,487 --> 00:53:09,360 - "Holland" is a great record. - "Holland"? 1182 00:53:09,447 --> 00:53:11,231 - Yeah. - Yeah. 1183 00:53:11,275 --> 00:53:13,451 It was a kick, working in Holland. 1184 00:53:13,538 --> 00:53:15,017 Mm-hmm. You didn't wanna go at first. 1185 00:53:15,061 --> 00:53:16,845 Oh, no, I didn't wanna go. 1186 00:53:16,932 --> 00:53:19,152 Jack said, "Look, Brian, it'd be a good vacation for us all, 1187 00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:20,849 and we can record there." 1188 00:53:20,936 --> 00:53:24,462 I said, "Okay, I'll go," so we packed up and went. 1189 00:53:24,505 --> 00:53:26,377 Stayed there for a half a year. 1190 00:53:26,464 --> 00:53:28,379 - Wow. - That's a long vacation. 1191 00:53:28,466 --> 00:53:30,859 - Very long. - Six months 1192 00:53:30,946 --> 00:53:33,427 in goddamn Holland. 1193 00:53:33,514 --> 00:53:35,081 - Whoa... - Six months. 1194 00:53:35,168 --> 00:53:37,692 I was a little depressed, so I laid down 1195 00:53:37,736 --> 00:53:39,738 in front of the board, you know, the console? 1196 00:53:39,868 --> 00:53:42,262 - Yeah. - And just listened to Carl 1197 00:53:42,349 --> 00:53:44,525 produce for a couple of weeks, 1198 00:53:44,656 --> 00:53:47,485 and then, after I got over my depression, 1199 00:53:47,528 --> 00:53:51,706 I wrote "The Fairytale," and, uh, we did it. 1200 00:53:51,750 --> 00:53:54,318 - That's cool. - And then Carl... 1201 00:53:54,448 --> 00:53:55,884 he produced "The Fairytale." 1202 00:53:55,971 --> 00:53:57,669 That's awesome. 1203 00:53:57,756 --> 00:54:01,629 I wrote it, he produced it, and Jack Riley narrated it. 1204 00:54:01,716 --> 00:54:02,326 Wow. 1205 00:54:02,456 --> 00:54:05,111 "Funky Pretty." 1206 00:54:05,198 --> 00:54:06,547 "Funky Pretty" is amazing. 1207 00:54:06,634 --> 00:54:08,636 Yeah. 1208 00:54:08,723 --> 00:54:11,422 Carl was producing a lot at that point, right? 1209 00:54:11,509 --> 00:54:14,251 He produced his ass off, are you kidding? 1210 00:54:14,338 --> 00:54:16,209 - Yeah. - Yeah. 1211 00:54:16,296 --> 00:54:19,125 Must have been really cool to see your little brother step up. 1212 00:54:19,212 --> 00:54:20,561 Well, I was proud of him. 1213 00:54:20,648 --> 00:54:22,563 - He produced "The Fairytale." - Right. 1214 00:54:22,650 --> 00:54:24,130 He said, "Brian, I wanna produce this." 1215 00:54:24,217 --> 00:54:26,088 He goes, "I like these songs." 1216 00:54:26,175 --> 00:54:27,002 I said, "Go ahead, produce it." 1217 00:54:27,089 --> 00:54:28,526 That's cool. 1218 00:54:28,569 --> 00:54:29,962 - It, it blew my mind. - You didn't know 1219 00:54:30,005 --> 00:54:32,312 - he had it in him. - Oh, no, I did not. 1220 00:54:32,399 --> 00:54:35,707 You also... did you write "Sail on, Sailor" there? 1221 00:54:35,794 --> 00:54:37,448 Yeah. 1222 00:54:37,578 --> 00:54:39,798 That song, man, that's one of the greats. 1223 00:54:43,367 --> 00:54:44,672 "Sail on, Sailor" is probably 1224 00:54:44,759 --> 00:54:48,023 one of the best songs I ever wrote. 1225 00:54:48,110 --> 00:54:50,504 - Yeah. - Yeah. 1226 00:54:52,114 --> 00:54:54,465 When we get to my house, 1227 00:54:54,552 --> 00:54:55,814 would you please boot up Dennis's album? 1228 00:54:55,901 --> 00:54:57,381 Absolutely. We'll listen to 1229 00:54:57,468 --> 00:54:58,773 - a little of the record... - Okay. 1230 00:54:58,817 --> 00:55:01,036 - Then you can relax. - All right. 1231 00:55:01,167 --> 00:55:03,387 Will you give him the card? I'm gonna hit the head. 1232 00:55:03,517 --> 00:55:05,040 - I'll be right back. - All right. 1233 00:55:05,127 --> 00:55:06,607 - I'll take care of it, guys. - How's it going? 1234 00:55:06,694 --> 00:55:08,130 It's going great, Brian. 1235 00:55:08,217 --> 00:55:09,393 - You gonna take care of this? - Absolutely. 1236 00:55:09,480 --> 00:55:10,481 All right, I'm gonna get the check. 1237 00:55:10,568 --> 00:55:11,482 Okay, Brent, okay. 1238 00:55:11,569 --> 00:55:12,700 He's gonna take care of it. 1239 00:55:12,787 --> 00:55:14,049 All right, we scored! 1240 00:55:14,136 --> 00:55:16,182 - We scored! - I scored a friend. 1241 00:55:16,313 --> 00:55:17,488 Yeah, for sure. 1242 00:55:17,575 --> 00:55:19,054 I haven't had a friend... 1243 00:55:19,185 --> 00:55:21,056 I haven't had a friend to talk to in three years. 1244 00:55:21,187 --> 00:55:23,058 - Really? - Really. 1245 00:55:23,145 --> 00:55:25,800 My life has been so simple, you know? 1246 00:55:25,844 --> 00:55:26,714 Yeah. 1247 00:55:26,801 --> 00:55:28,281 So simple and, like, modest? 1248 00:55:28,368 --> 00:55:30,544 - Yeah. - No really sitting around 1249 00:55:30,631 --> 00:55:32,198 and shooting the shit kinda thing. 1250 00:55:32,285 --> 00:55:33,199 - Right. - I haven't had 1251 00:55:33,286 --> 00:55:34,418 that kind of thing since you. 1252 00:55:34,505 --> 00:55:35,854 Well, I'm here for ya. 1253 00:55:35,941 --> 00:55:37,377 Vice versa. 1254 00:55:37,421 --> 00:55:39,423 - Okay. - Let's go. 1255 00:55:48,649 --> 00:55:51,435 Yeah. The great Vanna White. 1256 00:55:53,437 --> 00:55:54,873 That's amazing. 1257 00:55:57,963 --> 00:55:59,965 Do you remember him talking to you about the record? 1258 00:56:00,052 --> 00:56:03,098 He came over and he played me just the "Evening News" song. 1259 00:56:03,185 --> 00:56:05,536 I never listened to his album till right now. 1260 00:56:05,623 --> 00:56:06,928 ♪ Walking down ♪ 1261 00:56:07,015 --> 00:56:08,147 All right. 1262 00:56:08,234 --> 00:56:10,541 ♪ By the river ♪ 1263 00:56:10,628 --> 00:56:12,847 Can you make it a little louder? 1264 00:56:12,934 --> 00:56:19,419 ♪ Water running through my knees, ooh... ♪ 1265 00:56:19,506 --> 00:56:24,076 If you ask Elvis Costello or Roger Taylor 1266 00:56:24,119 --> 00:56:25,860 or Peter Buck from REM, 1267 00:56:25,947 --> 00:56:27,209 I've heard all of these people talk about this record, 1268 00:56:27,296 --> 00:56:29,603 of it being this, like, lost jewel. 1269 00:56:29,690 --> 00:56:31,605 It's a bummer that it didn't slow him down 1270 00:56:31,692 --> 00:56:33,085 or knock some sense into him, 1271 00:56:33,128 --> 00:56:36,044 saying, "Lookit, dude, you are a great artist." 1272 00:56:38,133 --> 00:56:39,744 ♪ My head's gettin' hazy... 1273 00:56:39,831 --> 00:56:41,702 All right! 1274 00:56:41,789 --> 00:56:43,617 This could be cool for the rock-and-roll record. 1275 00:56:43,704 --> 00:56:45,663 - Yeah. - ♪ Rock and roll ♪ 1276 00:56:45,706 --> 00:56:47,578 Good. 1277 00:56:47,665 --> 00:56:49,318 ♪ All... night long... ♪ 1278 00:56:49,362 --> 00:56:52,365 Dennis was just an, an impulsive hell-raising dude, 1279 00:56:52,496 --> 00:56:53,714 but had a big heart, you know? 1280 00:56:53,845 --> 00:56:54,933 And loved his brother. 1281 00:56:55,020 --> 00:56:57,936 ♪ Gone... I'm gone ♪ 1282 00:56:58,023 --> 00:56:59,416 All right. 1283 00:56:59,503 --> 00:57:00,591 Do you wanna hear one more? 1284 00:57:00,678 --> 00:57:02,506 Wanna hear it all. 1285 00:57:02,636 --> 00:57:05,465 - ♪ It ain't very funny... - Yeah. 1286 00:57:05,552 --> 00:57:06,292 ♪ How you spend all my money ♪ 1287 00:57:06,379 --> 00:57:10,427 ♪ I'm gone... I'm gone ♪ 1288 00:57:11,602 --> 00:57:13,299 ♪ Do what you wanna 1289 00:57:13,386 --> 00:57:16,476 ♪ But, baby, don't you do it on me ♪ 1290 00:57:22,743 --> 00:57:27,835 ♪ Farewell, my friend 1291 00:57:27,922 --> 00:57:34,538 ♪ My beautiful friend ♪ 1292 00:57:34,625 --> 00:57:37,323 ♪ Farewell... ♪ 1293 00:57:37,454 --> 00:57:38,977 This guy called me up, he goes, 1294 00:57:39,064 --> 00:57:40,718 "Brian, I'm sorry to tell you this, 1295 00:57:40,805 --> 00:57:43,068 but your brother Dennis drowned tonight." 1296 00:57:43,155 --> 00:57:46,114 I got this terrible feeling in my chest, you know? 1297 00:57:46,245 --> 00:57:47,420 Really scared me. 1298 00:57:47,507 --> 00:57:51,163 ♪ Farewell, my friend... ♪ 1299 00:57:51,206 --> 00:57:55,515 I have had two losses in my family in the last ten years, 1300 00:57:55,559 --> 00:57:57,212 and it's been hard for me. 1301 00:57:57,299 --> 00:57:59,127 The first loss was very hard, it was my father, 1302 00:57:59,214 --> 00:58:01,390 and then of course my brother Dennis... 1303 00:58:04,219 --> 00:58:07,005 We go back about 21 years, you know, 1304 00:58:07,092 --> 00:58:10,443 and it's hard to lose a brother, and somebody who had 1305 00:58:10,530 --> 00:58:14,969 such a vital, energetic thing about him, and, uh... 1306 00:58:15,056 --> 00:58:16,971 I just don't want to, to talk anymore about it. 1307 00:58:17,015 --> 00:58:20,627 ♪ Oh, that's when I'll see you again ♪ 1308 00:58:23,674 --> 00:58:25,589 ♪ Farewell... 1309 00:58:27,721 --> 00:58:30,419 All right. 1310 00:58:30,463 --> 00:58:33,771 It's always a great day when you can ride to Malibu. 1311 00:58:33,858 --> 00:58:37,818 Taking a, a peaceful to drive to the, to our stomping grounds. 1312 00:58:37,905 --> 00:58:41,822 Yeah, you have a lot of, lot of history in Malibu. 1313 00:58:41,909 --> 00:58:47,045 - Yeah. Nine years. - Yeah. 1314 00:58:47,132 --> 00:58:49,482 Yeah, I served time for nine years. 1315 00:58:51,528 --> 00:58:53,355 Is it like a prison sentence? 1316 00:58:53,442 --> 00:58:55,183 Yeah, it was like... yeah, in a way, yeah. 1317 00:58:55,314 --> 00:58:58,665 ♪ Ooh, ooh, ooh... ♪ 1318 00:59:00,711 --> 00:59:05,454 ♪ Ooh, ooh, ooh... 1319 00:59:05,498 --> 00:59:10,329 - ♪ Ooh, ooh, ooh... - ♪ Oh, oh, oh, oh... 1320 00:59:10,416 --> 00:59:12,200 ♪ Ooh, ooh, ooh... ♪ 1321 00:59:12,331 --> 00:59:15,639 ♪ Whoa, oh, oh, oh... ♪ 1322 00:59:15,769 --> 00:59:19,643 ♪ Ooh, ooh... ♪ 1323 00:59:19,773 --> 00:59:21,514 I contribute. 1324 00:59:21,601 --> 00:59:23,385 I'm a contributor. 1325 00:59:23,472 --> 00:59:25,692 - ♪ Ooh, ooh, ooh... - In my personal story, 1326 00:59:25,736 --> 00:59:26,867 it really didn't work out so well. 1327 00:59:26,998 --> 00:59:30,218 I did my dose of LSD, it shattered my mind, 1328 00:59:30,305 --> 00:59:32,656 and I, you know, came back, thank God, in... 1329 00:59:32,743 --> 00:59:34,527 I don't know how many pieces. 1330 00:59:34,614 --> 00:59:37,661 I think what happened was that it became too painful for him. 1331 00:59:37,748 --> 00:59:39,358 I was terrified for my brother. 1332 00:59:39,445 --> 00:59:41,316 Why in the world would a man 1333 00:59:41,403 --> 00:59:42,579 with that kind of God-given talent 1334 00:59:42,666 --> 00:59:44,319 need any help from drugs? 1335 00:59:44,406 --> 00:59:46,104 I have been taught the difference by my psychiatrist, 1336 00:59:46,234 --> 00:59:48,454 thank God, of a natural high and a drug high. 1337 00:59:48,541 --> 00:59:51,109 I mean, drugs are a definite balance of heaven and hell. 1338 00:59:51,239 --> 00:59:53,502 You go to heaven, then you go right to hell. 1339 00:59:53,546 --> 00:59:55,287 What made you come back, Brian? 1340 00:59:55,374 --> 00:59:57,289 I probably came back out of will, just... my name is Wilson, 1341 00:59:57,332 --> 01:00:00,422 maybe that's where I got the will. 1342 01:00:00,466 --> 01:00:06,080 ♪ I'm a cork on the ocean 1343 01:00:06,124 --> 01:00:10,084 ♪ Floatin' over the ragin' sea 1344 01:00:10,128 --> 01:00:12,217 They're called auditory hallucinations. 1345 01:00:12,304 --> 01:00:13,871 You're normal and then all of a sudden 1346 01:00:13,958 --> 01:00:16,743 you start hearing voices in your head. 1347 01:00:16,787 --> 01:00:19,790 The voices say, "I'm gonna hurt you, I'm gonna kill you," yeah. 1348 01:00:19,877 --> 01:00:21,922 I was afraid the devil came 1349 01:00:22,053 --> 01:00:23,532 in the form of other people 1350 01:00:23,576 --> 01:00:26,710 that were competing with me, that had ideas of, 1351 01:00:26,840 --> 01:00:29,582 of killing me and getting rid of me. 1352 01:00:29,713 --> 01:00:32,629 Everywhere I looked, I would see, "Oh, the devil's after me." 1353 01:00:33,934 --> 01:00:36,154 ♪ I'm a rock in a... 1354 01:00:36,284 --> 01:00:41,289 What people have a tendency to do that suffer with depression 1355 01:00:41,376 --> 01:00:43,944 is they use drugs and alcohol to medicate themselves. 1356 01:00:44,075 --> 01:00:47,382 It's called nepenthe...numbing the soul. 1357 01:00:47,469 --> 01:00:50,603 ♪ The valley ♪ 1358 01:00:50,734 --> 01:00:56,565 ♪ How deep is the valley? ♪ 1359 01:00:56,609 --> 01:00:59,220 ♪ It kills my soul 1360 01:00:59,307 --> 01:01:01,309 ♪ Hey, hey, hey ♪ 1361 01:01:01,396 --> 01:01:03,747 ♪ Oh... ♪ 1362 01:01:03,834 --> 01:01:09,187 If I had not taken control, he could be dead. 1363 01:01:09,274 --> 01:01:13,147 He had a year or two to live and he'd have died. 1364 01:01:13,191 --> 01:01:18,196 "We are worried that Brian Wilson is gonna follow Elvis." 1365 01:01:18,326 --> 01:01:20,285 Oh, God, no. 1366 01:01:20,372 --> 01:01:27,205 ♪ Ah... ♪ 1367 01:01:27,292 --> 01:01:30,991 We met back in 1986, during the Landy years. 1368 01:01:31,122 --> 01:01:34,821 As time went on, he, he became... captive. 1369 01:01:34,865 --> 01:01:37,432 I wasn't allowed to call my family or my friends at all 1370 01:01:37,519 --> 01:01:38,956 for, for nine years. 1371 01:01:38,999 --> 01:01:41,741 He doped me up with, with, uh, medication. 1372 01:01:41,828 --> 01:01:43,308 He kept me, he kept me doped up 1373 01:01:43,395 --> 01:01:45,353 so I couldn't resist what he told me to do. 1374 01:01:45,440 --> 01:01:46,441 Why? 1375 01:01:46,528 --> 01:01:47,965 I... he's a control freak. 1376 01:01:48,008 --> 01:01:50,402 He just... he gets off on controlling people. 1377 01:01:50,445 --> 01:01:52,143 ♪ Ah... 1378 01:01:52,230 --> 01:02:00,891 ♪ Mmm... ♪ 1379 01:02:01,021 --> 01:02:03,676 Was it hard to let go? 1380 01:02:03,763 --> 01:02:05,460 A little bit hard for me to let go, yeah. It was hard. 1381 01:02:05,547 --> 01:02:07,462 When you've had a control figure in your life 1382 01:02:07,549 --> 01:02:09,334 for that long a period. 1383 01:02:09,421 --> 01:02:13,251 Nine years, starting from 1983 to 1992. 1384 01:02:13,338 --> 01:02:15,427 It was nine years of control. 1385 01:02:17,472 --> 01:02:21,868 ♪ Well, I get anxious, I get scared a lot ♪ 1386 01:02:21,912 --> 01:02:23,478 ♪ I learned to live with it 1387 01:02:23,565 --> 01:02:25,959 ♪ Ah... ♪ 1388 01:02:26,046 --> 01:02:29,963 ♪ It should get better really any day now ♪ 1389 01:02:30,050 --> 01:02:32,226 ♪ Some days it really did ♪ 1390 01:02:32,270 --> 01:02:34,751 He's the one that's done all this. 1391 01:02:34,838 --> 01:02:38,493 He, he's had support, like I say. 1392 01:02:38,624 --> 01:02:40,931 He's had emotional... emotional security, 1393 01:02:41,061 --> 01:02:45,457 but he is the one that's pulled himself out of the darkness, 1394 01:02:45,500 --> 01:02:46,806 back into the sunlight. 1395 01:02:54,466 --> 01:02:57,208 Dr. Landy controlled a lot of aspects of your life. 1396 01:02:57,338 --> 01:02:58,862 Yup. 1397 01:02:58,949 --> 01:02:59,863 Was he a pretty tough taskmaster? 1398 01:02:59,950 --> 01:03:01,299 He was rough, yeah. 1399 01:03:01,429 --> 01:03:02,909 He was rough. 1400 01:03:02,953 --> 01:03:06,957 He did things like he made me eat spaghetti off the floor. 1401 01:03:07,087 --> 01:03:08,349 - Uh-huh. - Crazy things, you know? 1402 01:03:08,436 --> 01:03:09,960 Why did he do that? 1403 01:03:10,047 --> 01:03:12,266 I don't know, he just acted crazy. 1404 01:03:12,310 --> 01:03:13,441 Mm-hmm. 1405 01:03:13,528 --> 01:03:15,226 He goes, "All right, 1406 01:03:15,313 --> 01:03:18,098 I want you to eat your spaghetti off the floor." 1407 01:03:18,229 --> 01:03:21,536 I said, "Oh, man," he goes, "I said eat your..." 1408 01:03:21,667 --> 01:03:23,103 You know, he was real mean, you know? 1409 01:03:23,234 --> 01:03:25,584 And then about two weeks, three weeks later, 1410 01:03:25,671 --> 01:03:27,194 he went, "Hi, Brian." 1411 01:03:27,281 --> 01:03:28,892 In a real friendly tone, you know? 1412 01:03:29,022 --> 01:03:30,676 That was really quite an experience. 1413 01:03:30,763 --> 01:03:32,983 - Kind of a mind trip. - Yeah. 1414 01:03:33,070 --> 01:03:37,814 ♪ Sail on, sailor ♪ 1415 01:03:37,901 --> 01:03:39,424 ♪ Always needing, even... ♪ 1416 01:03:39,511 --> 01:03:41,905 Yeah, he didn't let me call my family. 1417 01:03:42,035 --> 01:03:45,430 ♪ Never feeding all my feelings ♪ 1418 01:03:45,517 --> 01:03:46,910 ♪ Damn, the thunder... ♪ 1419 01:03:46,997 --> 01:03:48,128 That must have been hard. 1420 01:03:48,215 --> 01:03:49,260 Your daughters were growing up. 1421 01:03:49,347 --> 01:03:51,784 Oh, it was, Jason, it was. 1422 01:03:51,871 --> 01:03:58,269 ♪ Awake, awake, my daughter... ♪ 1423 01:04:00,532 --> 01:04:07,931 ♪ The dawn has come today... ♪ 1424 01:04:09,976 --> 01:04:19,246 ♪ Awake, awake, my daughter... 1425 01:04:19,333 --> 01:04:27,689 ♪ You musn't sleep your life away... ♪ 1426 01:04:30,779 --> 01:04:32,390 So, do you have a hard time 1427 01:04:32,477 --> 01:04:34,348 making sense of the good parts and the bad parts? 1428 01:04:34,392 --> 01:04:36,742 No, I took the bad with the good with him, you know? 1429 01:04:36,873 --> 01:04:38,526 Yeah. 1430 01:04:38,613 --> 01:04:40,833 Balancing the two together, you know? 1431 01:04:40,920 --> 01:04:43,009 Mm-hmm. 1432 01:04:47,840 --> 01:04:50,147 You know what I had... you know what I did for a little while? 1433 01:04:50,190 --> 01:04:52,976 - What? - When I was, like, really fat? 1434 01:04:53,106 --> 01:04:57,067 I ate two New York steaks for breakfast 1435 01:04:57,154 --> 01:05:00,200 and a big piece of, uh, birthday cake. 1436 01:05:00,331 --> 01:05:01,636 - Really? - Yeah. 1437 01:05:01,767 --> 01:05:03,551 I went up... shot up to 311. 1438 01:05:03,638 --> 01:05:07,077 - Oh, my God. - Oh, Jason, I was so fat. 1439 01:05:07,207 --> 01:05:09,862 And when Gene Landy came into my life, 1440 01:05:09,949 --> 01:05:11,646 he had me weigh myself. 1441 01:05:11,777 --> 01:05:14,432 I weighed 311, and he goes, "And we're going to Kona, Hawaii, 1442 01:05:14,562 --> 01:05:17,348 and you're gonna start exercising." 1443 01:05:17,435 --> 01:05:21,787 So, in about five or six months, I goddamn lost... 1444 01:05:21,874 --> 01:05:24,224 went from 311 to 185. 1445 01:05:24,355 --> 01:05:25,530 Can you believe that? 1446 01:05:25,617 --> 01:05:27,532 - Oh, man. - Isn't that amazing? 1447 01:05:27,619 --> 01:05:30,100 Why do you think you were eating so bad? 1448 01:05:30,187 --> 01:05:32,145 Uh... I was just being stupid. 1449 01:05:32,276 --> 01:05:34,017 Uh-huh. 1450 01:05:34,104 --> 01:05:37,107 So, what was it like when Landy took you to Hawaii? 1451 01:05:37,237 --> 01:05:42,851 Well... I had to kick three main drug habits at the same time. 1452 01:05:42,895 --> 01:05:45,202 So I spent a few nights tossing and turning 1453 01:05:45,245 --> 01:05:47,682 and rolling in the bed, moaning and groaning 1454 01:05:47,769 --> 01:05:50,120 and it was like a guy kicking heroin, you know? 1455 01:05:50,207 --> 01:05:52,600 - Whoa. - Oh, it was rough. 1456 01:05:52,687 --> 01:05:55,647 I had to kick cigarettes, alcohol and cocaine. 1457 01:05:55,690 --> 01:05:56,909 All at once? 1458 01:05:56,996 --> 01:05:58,519 - All at once, yeah. - Whoa. 1459 01:05:58,563 --> 01:06:00,739 That was one of the roughest trips I ever took, yeah. 1460 01:06:00,826 --> 01:06:02,480 Which was the hardest to stop? 1461 01:06:02,567 --> 01:06:07,789 Um, the roughest... was... the cigarettes. 1462 01:06:07,833 --> 01:06:09,704 He motivated you. 1463 01:06:09,791 --> 01:06:11,837 He sure did, yeah. 1464 01:06:11,924 --> 01:06:15,058 But on the bad side, he controlled you. 1465 01:06:15,145 --> 01:06:16,450 Yeah, he did. 1466 01:06:16,494 --> 01:06:18,583 He made money off my name, you know? 1467 01:06:18,626 --> 01:06:20,498 - Yeah. - Yeah. 1468 01:06:20,585 --> 01:06:22,630 The thing about Eugene Landy 1469 01:06:22,717 --> 01:06:27,287 was that he was supposed to be watching Brian's diet 1470 01:06:27,418 --> 01:06:29,420 and taking care of him 1471 01:06:29,507 --> 01:06:31,857 physically and, uh, trying to get him 1472 01:06:31,944 --> 01:06:35,165 to lose weight and stop living a bad lifestyle. 1473 01:06:35,252 --> 01:06:39,952 Um, he kind of overstepped his, uh, boundaries or something, 1474 01:06:40,039 --> 01:06:41,954 whatever boundaries there were supposed to be, 1475 01:06:42,041 --> 01:06:43,477 and got involved in songwriting 1476 01:06:43,521 --> 01:06:44,826 and production and stuff like that. 1477 01:06:44,870 --> 01:06:47,307 That was kind of a real drag. 1478 01:06:47,394 --> 01:06:49,048 When people realized how bad that was, 1479 01:06:49,135 --> 01:06:50,832 I think that started the wheels turning pretty quickly 1480 01:06:50,876 --> 01:06:53,183 to, to get rid of Landy. 1481 01:06:53,313 --> 01:06:57,056 The day that that happened, Brian called me, 1482 01:06:57,100 --> 01:06:58,275 and he said, "I'm free now. 1483 01:06:58,318 --> 01:06:59,754 "I can do whatever I want. 1484 01:06:59,841 --> 01:07:01,539 What are you doing, Andy?" 1485 01:07:01,626 --> 01:07:04,194 And I said, "I'm... doing nothing, what do you wanna do?" 1486 01:07:04,324 --> 01:07:05,543 And he said, "I wanna write songs." 1487 01:07:05,673 --> 01:07:09,460 Trying to think of what I wanna hear. 1488 01:07:09,590 --> 01:07:13,203 Play... 1489 01:07:13,290 --> 01:07:14,900 "Long Promised Road"? 1490 01:07:15,031 --> 01:07:17,250 Great call. 1491 01:07:19,818 --> 01:07:21,863 Here it is. 1492 01:07:21,950 --> 01:07:24,649 ♪ So hard to laugh a childlike giggle ♪ 1493 01:07:24,736 --> 01:07:29,088 ♪ When the tears start to torture my mind ♪ 1494 01:07:29,175 --> 01:07:32,439 ♪ So hard to shed the life of before ♪ 1495 01:07:32,526 --> 01:07:37,575 ♪ To let my soul automatically soar, but I ♪ 1496 01:07:37,662 --> 01:07:41,361 ♪ Hit hard at the battle that's confronting me, yeah ♪ 1497 01:07:41,448 --> 01:07:45,235 ♪ Knock down all the roadblocks a-stumbling me ♪ 1498 01:07:45,322 --> 01:07:48,020 ♪ Throw off all the shackles that are binding me down... ♪ 1499 01:07:48,107 --> 01:07:50,370 It's a really cool track. 1500 01:07:50,457 --> 01:07:52,198 Did he write the words? Carl? 1501 01:07:52,242 --> 01:07:53,765 Yeah... uh, Jack Riley wrote 'em. 1502 01:07:53,808 --> 01:07:55,984 - Okay. - Yeah. 1503 01:07:56,028 --> 01:07:57,508 He died not too long ago. 1504 01:07:57,595 --> 01:07:59,118 - Jack died? - A few years ago, yeah. 1505 01:07:59,162 --> 01:08:00,728 How do you know that? 1506 01:08:00,815 --> 01:08:04,254 Somebody that I knew knew him, and told me that. 1507 01:08:04,384 --> 01:08:05,690 Where was he living, in Amsterdam? 1508 01:08:05,777 --> 01:08:07,822 Yeah, in, in Europe. I don't know if it was in Ams... 1509 01:08:07,909 --> 01:08:09,389 - He died? - Yeah. 1510 01:08:09,520 --> 01:08:12,740 - Oh, man... - A few years back. 1511 01:08:12,827 --> 01:08:16,483 ♪ ...of climbing up to reality's goal, but I ♪ 1512 01:08:16,614 --> 01:08:20,444 ♪ Hit hard at the battle that's confronting me, yeah ♪ 1513 01:08:20,487 --> 01:08:22,750 ♪ Knock down all the roadblocks a-stumbling me... ♪ 1514 01:08:22,837 --> 01:08:25,753 That's enough. 1515 01:08:34,327 --> 01:08:37,504 Jack seemed like a really fun guy. 1516 01:08:37,635 --> 01:08:39,941 Yeah. He's the one who thought of going to Holland. 1517 01:08:39,985 --> 01:08:42,379 - Uh-huh. - You know? 1518 01:08:45,991 --> 01:08:48,298 What did Jack die of? 1519 01:08:48,385 --> 01:08:51,083 I'm not sure. 1520 01:08:54,434 --> 01:08:56,523 Was he older than you? 1521 01:08:56,610 --> 01:08:58,482 Uh, I think he was about the same age as me. 1522 01:08:58,569 --> 01:09:01,354 Okay. 1523 01:09:04,401 --> 01:09:09,449 Would you play, um... 1524 01:09:09,536 --> 01:09:12,626 Uh... 1525 01:09:12,670 --> 01:09:14,411 "It's OK" by the Beach Boys? 1526 01:09:14,498 --> 01:09:17,979 - Heck, yeah. - On, uh, "15 Big Ones." 1527 01:09:18,066 --> 01:09:20,460 ♪ ...time again to shed the load ♪ 1528 01:09:20,547 --> 01:09:23,637 ♪ Hit the road, on the run again ♪ 1529 01:09:23,681 --> 01:09:27,293 ♪ Summer skies in our eyes and a warmer sun ♪ 1530 01:09:27,337 --> 01:09:32,168 ♪ It's one for all, all for one, all for all-out fun ♪ 1531 01:09:32,255 --> 01:09:36,563 ♪ Gotta go to it ♪ 1532 01:09:36,650 --> 01:09:40,567 ♪ Gotta go through it ♪ 1533 01:09:40,654 --> 01:09:43,701 ♪ Gotta get with it ♪ 1534 01:09:43,831 --> 01:09:47,922 - Really cool line. - Yeah. 1535 01:09:48,009 --> 01:09:51,361 ♪ In the sum-sum-summertime ♪ 1536 01:09:51,448 --> 01:09:53,580 ♪ In the sum-sum-summertime... ♪ 1537 01:09:53,667 --> 01:09:56,583 That broke my heart when I heard Jack Riley died. 1538 01:09:56,670 --> 01:09:58,716 Oh, man, I'm sorry to be the bearer of bad news. 1539 01:09:58,803 --> 01:10:04,635 Absolutely... absolutely broke my heart. 1540 01:10:04,722 --> 01:10:08,726 - About three years ago? - I think so, yeah, maybe more. 1541 01:10:08,856 --> 01:10:11,729 ♪ In the sum-sum-summertime ♪ 1542 01:10:11,816 --> 01:10:13,252 ♪ In the sum-sum-summertime... ♪ 1543 01:10:13,296 --> 01:10:14,645 Any other ones you wanna hear? 1544 01:10:14,775 --> 01:10:17,648 Yeah. 1545 01:10:17,778 --> 01:10:21,826 Play... 1546 01:10:21,869 --> 01:10:23,871 Don't play anything. 1547 01:10:23,958 --> 01:10:25,046 - I've heard enough today. - Okay. 1548 01:10:33,838 --> 01:10:38,538 ♪ I was sittin' in this crummy movie ♪ 1549 01:10:38,669 --> 01:10:43,978 ♪ With my hands upon my chin ♪ 1550 01:10:44,065 --> 01:10:48,200 ♪ All the violence that sometimes occurs ♪ 1551 01:10:48,331 --> 01:10:54,641 ♪ Seems like we never win ♪ 1552 01:10:54,728 --> 01:11:00,865 ♪ Love and mercy, that's what you need tonight... ♪ 1553 01:11:04,434 --> 01:11:06,871 ♪ So love and mercy... 1554 01:11:14,357 --> 01:11:20,145 ♪ I was lying in my room and the news comes on TV ♪ 1555 01:11:20,232 --> 01:11:22,887 ♪ Nah... nah... nah... ♪ 1556 01:11:22,974 --> 01:11:24,454 You've gotta be tough 1557 01:11:24,541 --> 01:11:26,151 to go through what he's been through, 1558 01:11:26,238 --> 01:11:29,502 personally and musically, and, uh, with his family, 1559 01:11:29,589 --> 01:11:30,982 and stuff with his dad. 1560 01:11:31,025 --> 01:11:33,027 You've gotta be tough to survive that. 1561 01:11:33,114 --> 01:11:34,768 ♪ Nah... nah... ♪ 1562 01:11:34,812 --> 01:11:40,905 ♪ Love and mercy, that's what you need tonight ♪ 1563 01:11:40,948 --> 01:11:43,995 ♪ Ooh... ooh... 1564 01:11:44,038 --> 01:11:50,610 ♪ So love and mercy to you and your friends tonight... ♪ 1565 01:11:50,697 --> 01:11:52,830 The odds were not on Brian, 1566 01:11:52,917 --> 01:11:55,485 but the fact that he is still here 1567 01:11:55,572 --> 01:11:59,924 and performing and making music... 1568 01:12:00,011 --> 01:12:01,404 it's a miracle, kind of, isn't it? 1569 01:12:01,491 --> 01:12:02,405 Really, it is. 1570 01:12:02,535 --> 01:12:04,363 I wonder if he sees it that way. 1571 01:12:04,450 --> 01:12:10,413 ♪ So love and mercy to you and your friends tonight ♪ 1572 01:12:10,500 --> 01:12:12,806 ♪ Ooh... ooh... ooh... ♪ 1573 01:12:12,850 --> 01:12:14,982 ♪ Love and mercy tonight 1574 01:12:21,162 --> 01:12:23,774 Here's your old spot. 1575 01:12:23,861 --> 01:12:26,080 Moonshadows. 1576 01:12:26,211 --> 01:12:29,606 Good... I think they have a dance, a dance floor there. 1577 01:12:29,693 --> 01:12:31,651 Had a couple, couple glasses of wine, 1578 01:12:31,782 --> 01:12:33,436 feel good, then I went and danced... 1579 01:12:33,523 --> 01:12:35,873 - Right. - ...for a little while. 1580 01:12:35,960 --> 01:12:37,614 I never knew you were a big dancer. 1581 01:12:37,657 --> 01:12:39,964 I can't dance very good, Jason. 1582 01:12:41,661 --> 01:12:45,404 You did... I saw, uh, that you did, 1583 01:12:45,491 --> 01:12:47,101 you did a lot of dancing at your wedding. 1584 01:12:47,188 --> 01:12:49,365 Yeah. 1585 01:12:49,452 --> 01:12:51,105 When the spirit moves you? 1586 01:12:51,192 --> 01:12:52,890 Yeah. 1587 01:12:52,977 --> 01:12:54,631 Tell me the story 1588 01:12:54,718 --> 01:12:56,415 of when you and Melinda decided to get married. 1589 01:12:56,459 --> 01:12:59,462 We were staying in a house on Ferrari... 1590 01:12:59,592 --> 01:13:01,681 - Uh-huh. - ...and she goes, 1591 01:13:01,768 --> 01:13:03,466 "Aren't you going to ask me to get married?" 1592 01:13:03,553 --> 01:13:04,467 I said, "Yeah." 1593 01:13:04,554 --> 01:13:05,903 She goes, "Yeah!" 1594 01:13:07,513 --> 01:13:08,384 I said, "Would you marry me?" 1595 01:13:08,471 --> 01:13:10,037 She goes, "Yeah!" 1596 01:13:11,474 --> 01:13:13,563 You must have been pretty excited. 1597 01:13:13,693 --> 01:13:15,042 Yeah, we got married in Palos Verdes. 1598 01:13:15,173 --> 01:13:16,870 Mm-hmm. 1599 01:13:16,914 --> 01:13:18,568 19... 95. 1600 01:13:18,655 --> 01:13:20,439 - To speak... - To speak... 1601 01:13:20,483 --> 01:13:22,833 - and to listen. - and to listen. 1602 01:13:22,920 --> 01:13:25,488 - To inspire... - To inspire... 1603 01:13:25,575 --> 01:13:27,881 - ...and to respond. - And what? 1604 01:13:27,925 --> 01:13:29,013 And to respond. 1605 01:13:29,056 --> 01:13:30,623 And to respond. 1606 01:13:30,710 --> 01:13:32,973 ♪ That you noticed me ♪ 1607 01:13:33,017 --> 01:13:38,936 ♪ And brought back harmony to this lonely soul ♪ 1608 01:13:39,023 --> 01:13:42,287 ♪ Oh, it's a revelation... ♪ 1609 01:13:42,374 --> 01:13:45,072 To Brian and Melinda. 1610 01:13:45,159 --> 01:13:47,161 ♪ I feel alive again ♪ 1611 01:13:47,248 --> 01:13:53,820 ♪ There are no limitations with love... ♪ 1612 01:13:55,735 --> 01:13:58,303 When did you guys decide to have kids? 1613 01:13:58,390 --> 01:14:00,958 - We adopted. - Yeah. 1614 01:14:01,045 --> 01:14:03,395 19... 98. 1615 01:14:03,482 --> 01:14:06,180 That must have been a big deal, adopting new kids. 1616 01:14:06,267 --> 01:14:07,312 Yeah, that was a trip. 1617 01:14:07,399 --> 01:14:12,622 ♪ Must be a miracle ♪ 1618 01:14:12,752 --> 01:14:16,277 - ♪ Must be a miracle... - One, two, three, swing. 1619 01:14:16,364 --> 01:14:21,239 - One, two, three, swing. - ♪ Maybe this miracle's ♪ 1620 01:14:21,326 --> 01:14:22,849 ♪ For me ♪ 1621 01:14:22,936 --> 01:14:24,764 Those kids are, like, very creative and playful. 1622 01:14:24,895 --> 01:14:28,289 I learned love from them, the way they express love. 1623 01:14:28,376 --> 01:14:32,206 Yeah, it's inspiring, it really is, yeah. 1624 01:14:32,337 --> 01:14:36,733 ♪ Have you ever seen ♪ 1625 01:14:36,820 --> 01:14:41,520 ♪ Blue eyes and long black hair? ♪ 1626 01:14:41,607 --> 01:14:48,266 ♪ Poetry in motion, she's the dream of every guy... ♪ 1627 01:14:48,309 --> 01:14:49,485 I don't think there would have been a third act 1628 01:14:49,572 --> 01:14:51,312 if it hadn't have been for Melinda. 1629 01:14:51,399 --> 01:14:52,792 Brian found his salvation. 1630 01:14:52,879 --> 01:14:54,141 He went through such a dark period of his life. 1631 01:14:54,228 --> 01:14:56,013 And whenever I see them, they're just like 1632 01:14:56,143 --> 01:14:58,798 a very happy, ordinary married couple with children. 1633 01:14:58,929 --> 01:15:01,235 He loves her, she loves him. 1634 01:15:01,366 --> 01:15:03,368 'Cause, again, he's not a person to live a lavish lifestyle. 1635 01:15:03,499 --> 01:15:05,109 He's just a California boy 1636 01:15:05,196 --> 01:15:07,154 that likes to make music and be with his family. 1637 01:15:07,241 --> 01:15:10,114 ♪ ...miracle ♪ 1638 01:15:10,201 --> 01:15:12,203 He doesn't deserve just the accolades about the music. 1639 01:15:12,246 --> 01:15:15,511 He deserves the accolades about his personal life. 1640 01:15:31,875 --> 01:15:34,355 Do you remember the day you came to Trankas 1641 01:15:34,399 --> 01:15:37,402 to, to your birthday party? 1642 01:15:37,489 --> 01:15:39,230 Yeah, McCartney was there... 1643 01:15:39,273 --> 01:15:42,363 and his wife, Linda... 1644 01:15:42,450 --> 01:15:44,583 - Uh-huh. - ... was there. 1645 01:15:44,670 --> 01:15:48,239 And it was a really cool house. 1646 01:15:48,326 --> 01:15:49,414 It's amazing, that day, you did so much that day. 1647 01:15:49,545 --> 01:15:50,850 It was your birthday party, 1648 01:15:50,937 --> 01:15:54,071 you filmed that Rolling Stone cover, 1649 01:15:54,201 --> 01:15:56,421 and you did that skit for Saturday Night Live, 1650 01:15:56,508 --> 01:15:57,727 all on the same day. 1651 01:15:57,814 --> 01:15:58,771 Let's go surfin' now. 1652 01:15:58,858 --> 01:16:00,077 Everybody's learnin' how. 1653 01:16:00,207 --> 01:16:01,644 Come on a safari with us. 1654 01:16:01,774 --> 01:16:03,210 - Come on. - Let's go. 1655 01:16:03,297 --> 01:16:03,994 Right. 1656 01:16:05,952 --> 01:16:09,086 How does it make you feel to hear these songs? 1657 01:16:09,173 --> 01:16:11,175 Oh, wonderful. 1658 01:16:11,262 --> 01:16:12,655 What a great feel. 1659 01:16:12,785 --> 01:16:15,353 Oh, I'm so proud of Carl, again, man. 1660 01:16:15,440 --> 01:16:16,876 When did you first know 1661 01:16:16,963 --> 01:16:20,532 that Carl could sing leads so well like that? 1662 01:16:20,619 --> 01:16:25,189 Well... 19... 60... 5 or 6. 1663 01:16:25,319 --> 01:16:27,452 When he sang "God Only Knows," you must have known, 1664 01:16:27,583 --> 01:16:31,543 "My gosh, he's really stepped up." 1665 01:16:31,674 --> 01:16:32,849 Well, I was gonna do the vocal, 1666 01:16:32,892 --> 01:16:35,416 and I said, "Carl, do you wanna do the vocal?" 1667 01:16:35,503 --> 01:16:38,550 He goes, "Sure, I'd love to," you know? So he did the vocal. 1668 01:16:38,637 --> 01:16:40,160 And he killed it. 1669 01:16:40,247 --> 01:16:41,988 Yeah, he did. 1670 01:16:42,075 --> 01:16:45,339 ♪ I may not always love you ♪ 1671 01:16:45,426 --> 01:16:49,082 ♪ But long as there are stars above you ♪ 1672 01:16:49,126 --> 01:16:53,043 ♪ You'll never need to doubt it ♪ 1673 01:16:53,130 --> 01:16:57,003 ♪ I'll make you so sure about it ♪ 1674 01:16:57,090 --> 01:17:02,661 ♪ God only knows what I'd be without you ♪ 1675 01:17:04,881 --> 01:17:08,798 ♪ If you should ever leave me 1676 01:17:08,885 --> 01:17:12,453 ♪ Well, life would still go on, believe me ♪ 1677 01:17:12,540 --> 01:17:17,154 ♪ The world could show nothing to me ♪ 1678 01:17:17,241 --> 01:17:20,592 ♪ So what good would living do me? ♪ 1679 01:17:20,679 --> 01:17:26,511 ♪ God only knows what I'd be without you ♪ 1680 01:17:34,171 --> 01:17:36,826 I saw him about a week before he died, 1681 01:17:36,913 --> 01:17:38,741 and he goes, "I'm gonna make it, Brian, 1682 01:17:38,828 --> 01:17:39,959 I'm gonna make it through." 1683 01:17:40,090 --> 01:17:41,961 And he died a couple of weeks later. 1684 01:17:42,048 --> 01:17:43,310 Oh... 1685 01:17:43,397 --> 01:17:45,138 It's emotionally hard to sing it. 1686 01:17:45,225 --> 01:17:47,097 I like... it feels good to sing, though, you know? 1687 01:17:47,184 --> 01:17:48,054 Mm-hmm. 1688 01:17:48,141 --> 01:17:49,839 When I sing it, I think about him. 1689 01:17:49,926 --> 01:17:52,145 "God Only Knows" gets a standing ovation every time. 1690 01:17:52,189 --> 01:17:55,540 ♪ God only knows what I'd be without you ♪ 1691 01:17:55,671 --> 01:17:57,890 ♪ God only knows what I'd be ♪ 1692 01:17:57,977 --> 01:17:59,892 ♪ God only knows ♪ 1693 01:17:59,979 --> 01:18:01,677 ♪ Ooh, ooh ♪ 1694 01:18:01,764 --> 01:18:06,551 ♪ God only knows ♪ 1695 01:18:06,638 --> 01:18:09,772 Thank you, ladies and gentlemen! 1696 01:18:12,383 --> 01:18:13,297 Please be seated. 1697 01:18:13,384 --> 01:18:17,214 Thank you very much. 1698 01:18:17,301 --> 01:18:20,304 ♪ So hard to answer future's riddle ♪ 1699 01:18:20,391 --> 01:18:25,178 ♪ When ahead is seeming so far behind ♪ 1700 01:18:25,265 --> 01:18:28,399 ♪ So hard to laugh a childlike giggle...♪ 1701 01:18:28,442 --> 01:18:32,751 Yeah, there it is. 1702 01:18:32,838 --> 01:18:36,233 ♪ So hard to shed the life of before ♪ 1703 01:18:36,363 --> 01:18:40,672 ♪ To let my soul automatically soar, but I ♪ 1704 01:18:40,803 --> 01:18:44,676 ♪ Hit hard at the battle that's confronting me, yeah ♪ 1705 01:18:44,763 --> 01:18:48,811 ♪ Knock down all the roadblocks a-stumbling me ♪ 1706 01:18:48,898 --> 01:18:55,252 ♪ Throw off all the shackles that are binding me down... ♪ 1707 01:18:55,339 --> 01:18:56,775 Right here. 1708 01:18:56,819 --> 01:18:58,908 ♪ So hard to laugh... 1709 01:18:58,995 --> 01:18:59,909 I'm not gonna get out of the car. 1710 01:18:59,996 --> 01:19:01,954 - You sure? - Yeah. 1711 01:19:03,826 --> 01:19:06,611 I'm gonna get out, okay? Check it out. 1712 01:19:06,698 --> 01:19:08,134 No... I'm just gonna wait. 1713 01:19:08,221 --> 01:19:10,049 Too sentimental for me to go. 1714 01:19:10,180 --> 01:19:11,834 All right, I'll tell 'em. 1715 01:19:11,921 --> 01:19:13,009 ♪ Hit hard at the battle... ♪ 1716 01:19:13,052 --> 01:19:16,360 - Want the music on? - Yeah. 1717 01:19:16,447 --> 01:19:20,103 ♪ Knock down all the roadblocks a-stumbling me ♪ 1718 01:19:20,146 --> 01:19:24,716 ♪ Throw off all the shackles that are binding me down ♪ 1719 01:19:27,980 --> 01:19:30,940 ♪ Sew up the wounds of evolution ♪ 1720 01:19:31,027 --> 01:19:35,596 ♪ And the now starts to get in my way ♪ 1721 01:19:35,640 --> 01:19:37,207 ♪ So what if life's... 1722 01:19:37,294 --> 01:19:39,513 I asked Brian one time, 1723 01:19:39,644 --> 01:19:43,300 "Why do you think we succeeded in such a big way?" 1724 01:19:43,430 --> 01:19:47,695 He said, "Well, I think the music celebrated the joy of life 1725 01:19:47,739 --> 01:19:49,393 in a real, simple way." 1726 01:19:49,480 --> 01:19:51,656 - ♪ ...promised road... - ♪ Bah-bah, bah-bah... ♪ 1727 01:19:51,743 --> 01:19:56,226 Not heavy or... or, or complex or anything. 1728 01:19:56,313 --> 01:19:59,359 Just a real direct experience of just joyfulness. 1729 01:20:03,320 --> 01:20:06,932 - ♪ Long promised road - ♪ Bah-bah, bah-bah... 1730 01:20:06,976 --> 01:20:13,809 ♪ Flows to the source, gentle force, never ending ♪ 1731 01:20:13,896 --> 01:20:16,986 ♪ Never ending ♪ 1732 01:20:20,206 --> 01:20:21,991 - Too much on that one, huh? - Yeah. 1733 01:20:30,347 --> 01:20:32,958 Yeah. 1734 01:20:37,267 --> 01:20:41,271 ♪ I had this dream 1735 01:20:41,358 --> 01:20:45,492 ♪ Singing with my brothers ♪ 1736 01:20:45,579 --> 01:20:48,147 ♪ In harmony ♪ 1737 01:20:48,278 --> 01:20:49,932 ♪ Ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh... ♪ 1738 01:20:50,019 --> 01:20:53,152 ♪ Supporting each other ♪ 1739 01:20:53,283 --> 01:20:56,112 - ♪ Tail winds - ♪ Ooh... ♪ 1740 01:20:56,155 --> 01:20:58,288 - ♪ Whispering - ♪ Ooh, ooh... 1741 01:20:58,375 --> 01:21:02,596 ♪ Down the Pacific coast ♪ 1742 01:21:02,727 --> 01:21:06,818 ♪ Surfin' on the A.M. ♪ 1743 01:21:06,949 --> 01:21:10,648 ♪ Heard those voices again in ♪ 1744 01:21:10,735 --> 01:21:14,913 ♪ Southern California ♪ 1745 01:21:14,957 --> 01:21:19,048 ♪ Dreams wake up for ya 1746 01:21:19,135 --> 01:21:23,182 ♪ And when you wake up here ♪ 1747 01:21:23,313 --> 01:21:27,317 ♪ You wake up everywhere ♪ 1748 01:21:27,404 --> 01:21:31,190 ♪ Oh, whoa, it's magical... ♪ 1749 01:21:31,321 --> 01:21:33,062 I wanna take this opportunity right now 1750 01:21:33,149 --> 01:21:37,196 to thank our beloved Brian for writing all that beautiful music 1751 01:21:37,327 --> 01:21:38,981 and making this evening possible. 1752 01:21:39,111 --> 01:21:41,766 Let's hear it for Brian Wilson. 1753 01:21:43,637 --> 01:21:46,597 ♪ Ooh ♪ 1754 01:21:46,640 --> 01:21:52,559 ♪ Ooh... 1755 01:21:56,868 --> 01:21:58,565 - It's okay? - Sure. 1756 01:21:58,652 --> 01:22:01,090 ♪ It's okay ♪ 1757 01:22:01,177 --> 01:22:02,221 Happy with it? 1758 01:22:02,308 --> 01:22:03,788 - Love it, yeah. - Okay. 1759 01:22:03,919 --> 01:22:06,095 It starts out one, two, three. 1760 01:22:06,182 --> 01:22:08,010 ♪ It's okay ♪ 1761 01:22:09,794 --> 01:22:12,144 Okay, okay. 1762 01:22:12,231 --> 01:22:13,667 It fades 1763 01:22:13,754 --> 01:22:15,017 in about eight, ten bars. 1764 01:22:15,104 --> 01:22:16,670 - Got it. - In ten. 1765 01:22:16,757 --> 01:22:18,890 I'm just gonna prepare myself mentally for the vocals. 1766 01:22:19,021 --> 01:22:20,805 - For some vocals? - Yeah. 1767 01:22:20,892 --> 01:22:22,502 Good! You want me to scratch your back or rub your back? 1768 01:22:22,589 --> 01:22:24,243 Sure. 1769 01:22:24,330 --> 01:22:27,116 One, two, one, two, three, four. 1770 01:22:27,203 --> 01:22:30,902 ♪ Fun is in, it's no sin, it's that time again ♪ 1771 01:22:31,033 --> 01:22:34,906 ♪ To shed the load, hit the road, on the run again ♪ 1772 01:22:35,037 --> 01:22:38,736 ♪ Summer skies in our eyes and a warmer sun ♪ 1773 01:22:38,779 --> 01:22:43,871 ♪ It's one for all, all for one, and all for all-out fun ♪ 1774 01:22:43,915 --> 01:22:47,919 ♪ Gotta go to it ♪ Yeah 1775 01:22:48,050 --> 01:22:51,792 - ♪ Gotta go through it - ♪ Yeah ♪ 1776 01:22:51,836 --> 01:22:55,492 ♪ Gotta get with it 1777 01:22:55,622 --> 01:22:58,974 ♪ Lookin' good down the hood of a funky ride... ♪ 1778 01:22:59,061 --> 01:23:00,410 It's a gift for all of us 1779 01:23:00,497 --> 01:23:02,238 to have someone like Brian or those guys 1780 01:23:02,325 --> 01:23:03,065 who still love music and wanna play music. 1781 01:23:03,195 --> 01:23:04,501 It's a gift to everybody, 1782 01:23:04,631 --> 01:23:06,590 because he certainly doesn't have to do that. 1783 01:23:06,720 --> 01:23:08,026 Brian will always wanna go out and perform. 1784 01:23:08,070 --> 01:23:09,636 He will always wanna make records. 1785 01:23:09,723 --> 01:23:11,725 It's 'cause music runs through his veins. 1786 01:23:11,856 --> 01:23:15,947 - ♪ Gotta go through it - ♪ Yeah ♪ 1787 01:23:16,078 --> 01:23:17,427 I don't see age. 1788 01:23:17,514 --> 01:23:23,476 I see fucking history, and continuing to make history. 1789 01:23:23,520 --> 01:23:25,522 I think he's enjoying himself. 1790 01:23:25,652 --> 01:23:29,091 He wants to go on the road and he wants to keep going, so... 1791 01:23:29,178 --> 01:23:30,962 I can't argue with that. 1792 01:23:31,049 --> 01:23:34,618 ♪ Good or bad, glad or sad, it's all gonna pass ♪ 1793 01:23:34,705 --> 01:23:39,318 ♪ So it's OK, let's all play and enjoy while it lasts ♪ 1794 01:23:39,405 --> 01:23:43,670 - ♪ Gotta go to it - ♪ Yeah ♪ 1795 01:23:43,757 --> 01:23:45,977 In the last two years, you've toured, like, 180 dates. 1796 01:23:46,064 --> 01:23:48,023 It's more than you've ever played 1797 01:23:48,110 --> 01:23:50,547 at any time in your career. 1798 01:23:50,634 --> 01:23:52,549 - Well, we toured the world. - You gotta be proud of that. 1799 01:23:52,636 --> 01:23:53,941 Lotta concerts. 1800 01:23:53,985 --> 01:23:55,073 ♪ We're always in my car 1801 01:23:55,160 --> 01:23:56,553 ♪ 'Cause it's never been beat ♪ 1802 01:23:56,640 --> 01:23:59,469 ♪ And we've never missed yet with the girls we meet ♪ 1803 01:24:02,863 --> 01:24:05,649 ♪ None of the guys go steady, 'cause it wouldn't be right ♪ 1804 01:24:05,736 --> 01:24:09,348 ♪ To leave your best girl home on a Saturday night ♪ 1805 01:24:09,435 --> 01:24:11,481 I've been in a concert with him, and he did a song 1806 01:24:11,568 --> 01:24:13,439 that I thought I would never hear live, 1807 01:24:13,570 --> 01:24:15,311 and he opened his mouth and just went... "Aah..." 1808 01:24:15,354 --> 01:24:18,270 Brian's provided that for me many times, 1809 01:24:18,357 --> 01:24:20,533 and not only has he provided that for me, 1810 01:24:20,577 --> 01:24:22,361 he must get that every day in concert. 1811 01:24:22,492 --> 01:24:24,363 I didn't know what to expect from Brian's show. 1812 01:24:24,494 --> 01:24:26,148 Trying to play "Pet Sounds" live, you know, 1813 01:24:26,278 --> 01:24:27,845 it's like, what could be harder, 1814 01:24:27,932 --> 01:24:29,368 but we could not believe it. 1815 01:24:29,455 --> 01:24:31,022 - ♪ I get around - ♪ Yeah ♪ 1816 01:24:31,153 --> 01:24:34,243 ♪ Get around, round, round, I get around ♪ 1817 01:24:34,373 --> 01:24:36,245 If somebody was making a bet with me, 1818 01:24:36,332 --> 01:24:37,898 I would have bet that they had tapes 1819 01:24:37,985 --> 01:24:40,118 rolling along with what they were doing, 1820 01:24:40,205 --> 01:24:42,599 but at the end of the day, they simply learned 1821 01:24:42,686 --> 01:24:45,080 how to sing and recreate that music live, 1822 01:24:45,167 --> 01:24:47,517 and it made me so happy 1823 01:24:47,604 --> 01:24:50,998 to see what he created honored in that way. 1824 01:24:51,042 --> 01:24:52,696 This has been taken seriously, 1825 01:24:52,783 --> 01:24:55,960 and everybody on that stage loves this guy 1826 01:24:56,091 --> 01:24:57,614 and loves this music. 1827 01:24:57,701 --> 01:25:00,182 ♪ Get around, round, round, I get around ♪ 1828 01:25:00,269 --> 01:25:02,880 - ♪ I get around! - Yeah! 1829 01:25:08,494 --> 01:25:10,366 Thank you, ladies and gentlemen! 1830 01:25:10,453 --> 01:25:11,976 I think everyone has issues, you know, 1831 01:25:12,063 --> 01:25:13,412 whether it's mental health or anything else, 1832 01:25:13,499 --> 01:25:16,198 and the fact that Brian is vulnerable enough 1833 01:25:16,328 --> 01:25:17,721 and real enough... 1834 01:25:17,808 --> 01:25:18,504 Thank you very much. 1835 01:25:18,591 --> 01:25:20,854 ...to get up there and do this, 1836 01:25:20,985 --> 01:25:24,119 I think gives people a lot of strength. 1837 01:25:24,206 --> 01:25:26,077 I know it gives me a lot of strength. 1838 01:25:26,164 --> 01:25:29,036 ♪ Ah... ♪ 1839 01:25:29,080 --> 01:25:32,997 ♪ Well, I get anxious, I get scared a lot ♪ 1840 01:25:33,084 --> 01:25:34,781 ♪ That's what I live with... ♪ 1841 01:25:34,912 --> 01:25:36,348 I love him. 1842 01:25:36,435 --> 01:25:39,438 I think he's a beautiful, sweet guy. 1843 01:25:39,525 --> 01:25:42,702 There is a real innocence and optimism 1844 01:25:42,746 --> 01:25:46,097 and positivity and goodness, that's what's at his core. 1845 01:25:46,184 --> 01:25:50,014 ♪ They said go out and get a steady job ♪ 1846 01:25:50,145 --> 01:25:54,410 ♪ That was the worst idea ♪ 1847 01:25:54,497 --> 01:25:58,544 ♪ Another day, another lonely song ♪ 1848 01:25:58,631 --> 01:26:02,113 ♪ To get me through again ♪ 1849 01:26:02,200 --> 01:26:04,463 The funny thing about those songs 1850 01:26:04,550 --> 01:26:08,989 is they're both more joyful and more painful now 1851 01:26:09,076 --> 01:26:13,951 because of the loss of your own youth, your own adolescence, 1852 01:26:13,994 --> 01:26:17,128 and yet at the same time, it does speak to your current life, 1853 01:26:17,215 --> 01:26:21,480 which is the hallmark of great and lasting music. 1854 01:26:21,567 --> 01:26:25,484 ♪ Oh, oh, yeah, yeah ♪ 1855 01:26:25,615 --> 01:26:27,834 You know, it's like there's some secret code 1856 01:26:27,921 --> 01:26:30,489 that makes Brian's music resonate 1857 01:26:30,576 --> 01:26:33,231 the same as this feather or a piece of grass 1858 01:26:33,275 --> 01:26:35,712 or a leaf or air or water. 1859 01:26:35,799 --> 01:26:37,366 You know, there's something about it that we need. 1860 01:26:37,496 --> 01:26:39,150 You know, it's like you hear his music and you need it to live. 1861 01:26:39,281 --> 01:26:42,240 You know, it's like an essential element of your life. 1862 01:26:42,284 --> 01:26:43,850 I don't think there are words for it. 1863 01:26:43,937 --> 01:26:47,071 ♪ To be the greatest at the center field ♪ 1864 01:26:47,158 --> 01:26:52,163 ♪ That the Yankees ever see ♪ 1865 01:26:52,294 --> 01:26:56,385 ♪ Well, high ambitions but I got sidetracked ♪ 1866 01:26:56,472 --> 01:27:01,390 ♪ Into the music field ♪ 1867 01:27:01,520 --> 01:27:03,130 There's very few people 1868 01:27:03,174 --> 01:27:06,612 that continue to make the kind of impact he's made, 1869 01:27:06,699 --> 01:27:08,397 and having gone through all he's gone through 1870 01:27:08,527 --> 01:27:10,964 and coming out the other side, it's really kind of incredible, 1871 01:27:11,095 --> 01:27:12,314 and, again, so rare. 1872 01:27:12,444 --> 01:27:15,186 I think there's a... misconception 1873 01:27:15,273 --> 01:27:17,319 of what real artists are, 1874 01:27:17,449 --> 01:27:20,322 and the ones that are watching the clock. 1875 01:27:20,452 --> 01:27:23,325 Those are the people that don't belong here. 1876 01:27:23,412 --> 01:27:25,762 It's the ones that just keep going. 1877 01:27:25,849 --> 01:27:30,070 It's Brian Wilson, that wants to still beat "God Only Knows." 1878 01:27:30,157 --> 01:27:31,942 I mean, can you imagine that? 1879 01:27:31,985 --> 01:27:36,338 ...two, a one, two, three, four... no! 1880 01:27:36,425 --> 01:27:39,341 Someone's coming in too soon. 1881 01:27:39,428 --> 01:27:46,957 ♪ I know that love is what I really wanna share ♪ 1882 01:27:47,000 --> 01:27:49,655 I can remember almost word for word a quote 1883 01:27:49,786 --> 01:27:52,963 that, uh, Brian Wilson, more than anybody else, 1884 01:27:53,006 --> 01:27:55,574 has had a profound effect over American rock music 1885 01:27:55,661 --> 01:27:57,228 for the next 30 years. 1886 01:27:57,315 --> 01:27:59,578 You can hear it... your influence is everywhere, Brian. 1887 01:27:59,709 --> 01:28:04,017 I mean, do you feel that's a strong responsibility? 1888 01:28:04,104 --> 01:28:06,455 Yes, I do, sure, because, uh, 1889 01:28:06,542 --> 01:28:09,327 once you've established yourself as... 1890 01:28:09,414 --> 01:28:14,550 an artist, producer, somebody who has something to say, 1891 01:28:14,593 --> 01:28:17,553 it's, it's an artist's obligation. 1892 01:28:17,596 --> 01:28:20,469 It's constructive work, you know, it's work. 1893 01:28:20,556 --> 01:28:23,385 Any artist that you find has that feeling. 1894 01:28:23,515 --> 01:28:27,737 He feels the need to please, you know? 1895 01:28:27,824 --> 01:28:29,913 And it's a very personal thing, 1896 01:28:30,000 --> 01:28:32,176 and it's something that comes with... it's natural, you know? 1897 01:28:32,263 --> 01:28:34,265 It's a natural thing. 1898 01:28:34,396 --> 01:28:37,007 When I hear his music, it makes me smile. 1899 01:28:37,094 --> 01:28:40,663 It makes me realize that there's a lot of songs still left in me. 1900 01:28:40,706 --> 01:28:42,229 There's still a lot of songs left in Brian. 1901 01:28:42,273 --> 01:28:44,449 He's always writing, he's always making music. 1902 01:28:44,493 --> 01:28:47,757 And, well, I have that love of him that will never ever die. 1903 01:28:47,844 --> 01:28:52,196 ♪ It's up to me to make the music call ♪ 1904 01:28:52,283 --> 01:28:54,981 ♪ To ride the wave again ♪ 1905 01:28:55,068 --> 01:28:58,028 ♪ Ah... ah, oh ♪ 1906 01:29:19,310 --> 01:29:22,052 ♪ Long promised road 1907 01:29:22,139 --> 01:29:27,057 ♪ Trail starts at dawn, carries on to the season's ending ♪ 1908 01:29:28,885 --> 01:29:31,235 We're gonna go. Can you hear yourself all right? 1909 01:29:31,322 --> 01:29:33,106 Yeah. 1910 01:29:33,193 --> 01:29:35,848 One, two.. one, two, three. 1911 01:29:51,037 --> 01:29:54,127 ♪ So hard to answer future's riddle ♪ 1912 01:29:54,258 --> 01:29:58,784 ♪ When ahead seems so far behind ♪ 1913 01:29:58,871 --> 01:30:01,787 ♪ So hard to laugh a childlike giggle ♪ 1914 01:30:01,874 --> 01:30:06,139 ♪ When the tears start to torture my mind ♪ 1915 01:30:06,226 --> 01:30:09,795 ♪ So hard to shed the life of before ♪ 1916 01:30:09,882 --> 01:30:13,712 ♪ To let my soul automatically soar, but I ♪ 1917 01:30:13,799 --> 01:30:17,803 ♪ Hit hard at the battle that's confronting me ♪ 1918 01:30:17,934 --> 01:30:21,328 ♪ Knock down all the roadblocks a-stumbling me ♪ 1919 01:30:21,372 --> 01:30:26,159 ♪ Threw off all the shackles that are binding me down ♪ 1920 01:30:26,246 --> 01:30:29,032 ♪ Down, down, down, down ♪ 1921 01:30:29,119 --> 01:30:32,078 ♪ Sew up the wounds of evolution ♪ 1922 01:30:32,165 --> 01:30:36,648 ♪ And the now starts to get in my way ♪ 1923 01:30:36,735 --> 01:30:39,521 ♪ So what if life's a revelation ♪ 1924 01:30:39,608 --> 01:30:44,308 ♪ If a mind speaks of only today? ♪ 1925 01:30:44,395 --> 01:30:47,833 ♪ So real, the pain of growing in soul ♪ 1926 01:30:47,964 --> 01:30:51,750 ♪ I'm climbing up to reality's goal, but I ♪ 1927 01:30:51,837 --> 01:30:55,841 ♪ Hit hard at the battle that's confronting me ♪ 1928 01:30:55,972 --> 01:30:59,410 ♪ Knock down all the roadblocks a-stumbling me ♪ 1929 01:30:59,497 --> 01:31:04,284 ♪ Throw off all the shackles that are binding me down ♪ 1930 01:31:04,328 --> 01:31:06,983 ♪ Down, down, down 1931 01:31:07,113 --> 01:31:10,726 - ♪ Long promised road - ♪ Bah-bah, bah-bah ♪ 1932 01:31:10,813 --> 01:31:16,558 ♪ Trail starts at dawn, carries on to the season's ending ♪ 1933 01:31:16,645 --> 01:31:21,998 ♪ Ooh, ooh... ♪ 1934 01:31:22,128 --> 01:31:26,306 - ♪ Long promised road - ♪ Bah-bah, bah-bah ♪ 1935 01:31:26,393 --> 01:31:32,356 ♪ Flows to the source, gentle voice, never ending ♪ 1936 01:31:32,443 --> 01:31:35,011 ♪ Never ending ♪ 1937 01:31:35,098 --> 01:31:37,056 It's like Brian's music taps into that same source 1938 01:31:37,100 --> 01:31:40,886 that gospel music taps into, of that deep, fundamental... 1939 01:31:40,973 --> 01:31:43,541 sadness or darkness that we all carry. 1940 01:31:43,628 --> 01:31:46,631 It's like it finds you there and it takes you up out of it. 1941 01:31:46,675 --> 01:31:49,199 That was just innately in the music. 1942 01:31:49,242 --> 01:31:51,549 The harmonies, the sound of them, 1943 01:31:51,636 --> 01:31:55,031 offered a way out, and offered a transcendence. 1944 01:31:55,118 --> 01:31:58,251 You can put on all these songs, and it still stands up. 1945 01:31:58,382 --> 01:32:01,167 We're never gonna have Brian Wilson ever again. 1946 01:32:01,254 --> 01:32:03,996 He once told me that, uh, he used to pray 1947 01:32:04,040 --> 01:32:06,259 to make really spiritual music 1948 01:32:06,346 --> 01:32:09,088 and to make a better album than "Rubber Soul." 1949 01:32:13,789 --> 01:32:15,573 - Good one. - That's a good prayer. 1950 01:32:15,617 --> 01:32:17,706 It worked. 1951 01:32:17,793 --> 01:32:19,969 That should convert you. 1952 01:32:20,056 --> 01:32:23,059 Brian is a living example, through his suffering, 1953 01:32:23,189 --> 01:32:26,497 through his pain, he found a joy. 1954 01:32:26,584 --> 01:32:29,152 His music... is an act of love. 1955 01:32:29,239 --> 01:32:34,505 - ♪ Long promised road - ♪ Bah-bah, bah-bah ♪ 1956 01:32:34,636 --> 01:32:41,164 ♪ Flows to the source, gentle force, never ending ♪ 1957 01:32:41,251 --> 01:32:42,992 ♪ Never ending ♪ 1958 01:32:43,079 --> 01:32:44,950 Good one! 1959 01:32:44,994 --> 01:32:46,256 I like it! 1960 01:32:46,299 --> 01:32:47,649 Beautiful. 1961 01:32:51,653 --> 01:32:55,091 ♪ Barbara Ann... 1962 01:32:55,178 --> 01:32:57,397 Barbara. 1963 01:32:59,399 --> 01:33:02,098 ♪ Ba-ha-ha... ♪ 1964 01:33:02,185 --> 01:33:03,665 ♪ Ba-ba-fa ♪ 1965 01:33:03,752 --> 01:33:05,144 Barba... fan. 1966 01:33:05,231 --> 01:33:07,799 Ba, ba, ba. 1967 01:33:07,886 --> 01:33:09,584 Yay...! 149188

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